Today, the Ukrainian army launched an offensive on the towns surrounding Debaltsevo
According to the DNR sources, the Ukrainian army lost two tank platoons and several units of mechanised infantry. The DNR military spokesperson also reports that the DNR troops have suffered no casualties and have fought off the enemy.
Ukrainian sources are reporting that they've captured Uglegorsk and are ready to take Debaletsevo.
The Minsk agreements are finished, it's time for happening threads.
Also, if any Rusanons can help translate the links/pics, it would be greatly appreciated, my Russian is shit.
First pic says that in the Svetlodarsk area, there is fighting, and that there are many wounded on the Ukrainian side and panic on part of the separatists. He says that all forms of weaponry are being used, tanks, mortars and self-propelled artillery.
The second picture says that the Ukrainians lost two platoons of tanks and several infantrymen. It says that one line of defence was abandoned, but quickly returned and that the Ukrainian army continues to suffer casualties as the battles go on. At the bottom is an apparent UN statement: There is a risk that all out warfare may resume in Ukraine.
Ethan Mitchell
Good luck Novorossia! Ward off from those kikes
Nathaniel Reed
Its happening again? When are Jewkies going to learn? Why at they starting this again now? Does it have anything to do with Russia entering peace negotiations with Turkey?
James Campbell
Ukrainians are probably going to leave their wounded to die in the field again. Wonder if they sent their militias Azov etc out as cannon fodder first
Kayden Cook
The only winner of this fight
Samuel Williams
The Ukrainian army captured the areas surrounding Sanzharovky, and took over two strategic heights near Logvinovo, 2-3km away from Logvinovo. It's likely that the Ukrainian army is going to assault the town from many different directions in order to recapture it.
The road between Gorlovka and Donetsk is being shelled.
Cooper Cruz
Atleast this gives me a chance to post all my old ukrainian memes.
Aaron Murphy
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Daniel Kelly
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Angel Morales
I can't translate all of this, but shit's fucked, the Ukrainians are beginning to capture strategic areas around Debaltsevo and have already made contact with the DNR army.
David Jenkins
The DNR soldier in this video says that the Ukrainian right-sector battalions have begun an offensive onto the town of Logvinov and surrounding towns. He says that the DNR troops haven't withdrawn and that the situation is escalating.
Andrew Barnes
The town of Gorlovka is being shelled again.
Jaxon Baker
That explains the heavy casualties amongst the Ukrainians.
Zachary King
Any info on Givi and Motorola?
Jeremiah Williams
Nope.
Grayson Flores
Do we have an RIDF in here to expand on the situation in the totally not Russian state? How's life there? Have they decided to print own money or has Russia forbidden it?
Jaxson Reyes
The last anyone checked they use Ukrainian and Russian cash.
Alexander Murphy
The DNR ministry is reporting that the Ukrainians have launched an offensive on the towns surrounding Debaltsevo.
Liam Jackson
Choose one.
Do some reasearch on Ukraine and you will find out why it shouldn't exist in the first place. It's russian/polish land.
Lucas Myers
Is the Ukrainian army still conscripting?
They have been sending their youth to the meat grinder for 2 years. When is all the unnecessary death enough, I wonder.
Pic related. Ukraine is still a "real country", but it should be cut down a whole lot.
Adam Turner
DNR Defence secretary says that the Ukrainian side has lost two BMP's and one BTR. No figures on the casualties, but the DNR side reportedly suffered none.
Nathaniel Ross
Daily reminder to filter everyone who supports the LITERAL COMMIE 'Novorossians'.
Owen Miller
Get lost kike.
John Richardson
I love how both groups of slavs are notorious liars and you just know they are full of shit. Both report crushing victories, take half of what both said and that's likely the truth.
Nathaniel Mitchell
They are using their youth as a training ground for the Russian troops. When? I don't really know since no one knows what is Putin's end game with UA.
Nathan Reed
That's actually an extremely optimistic map you got there, if things really go south, the players at play won't hesitate to had the areas over to the bordering countries.
Literally retarded.
Dominic Scott
I do support Right Sector. But I dont support the kike oligarchs placed by ZOG.
When the fuck will Ukranians awake and start liberating their country? Let the Novorussian have their country For the moment, right now real ukranians should start clean up the country of (((vermins)))
Dominic Hernandez
Ah sorry, did I trigger you there Antifa?
Xavier Campbell
I'm beginning to soften my stance towards the ukranians now that it's become apparent they won't get into the EU. They are the better people in this they support nazism and the extreme right while russia supports communists and the extreme left.
Aiden Campbell
New fag and a Russian shill just die
Adam Myers
the war makes no sense
why not just let them seceed? kikes i suppose…
Anthony Price
This shit is still going on? Wake me up when euromaiden ends
Brody Thompson
Putin wants to keep the situation like this until Ukraine and maybe EU collapse so he can take southeastern half of Ukraine for himself and maybe back his own men for the rest of the country.
The brutal reality of Ukraine is that they'll always be under the control of either east or the west. They'll never be really independent. And, frankly, west won't hold them. This whole thing was a charade which will have no effect long term. Ukraine will be swallowed by Russia. If something is left, they'll be paraplegics tended to by Poland. I feel sad thinking about it.
Brayden Jenkins
I thought they were on a cease fire?
Zachary Bell
People fighting off clandestine infringement aren't the people that you should be fighting against. The peoples of Ukraine are fighting this infringment on their rights but both of them have been manipulated by peoples who are evil. Project moar, faggot.
Cameron Gonzalez
I'd bet the equivalent of an average Russian monthly salary that the person who made that map and decided that 1/8 of Ukraine rightfully belongs to nazi Germany has at least once kvetched about NATO fascists on the Internet.
Cooper Barnes
Pic is the official DNR news source for the posts translated here
Andrew Allen
Russians are literally the niggers of Europe. They have 4 BILLION acres of land, yet instead of doing anything with it they'd rather take the richer, more prosperous lands of Western Europe by force just because 'gibs me dat'.
Tyler Hill
Exactly. Its not like Ukranians dindu nuffin and russia is satanist babie-eaters, but the ukranians nationalist are good, but their leadership was coopted by the kikes after the Maidan, and so forced in continuing the war.
Besides, TBH, previous ukranian assaults were a failure. Its foolish to continue.
Isaac Jackson
If you side with Communists you're Antifa in my book. Go grab your triangles.
Gabriel Wright
What's stopping him from invading whole eastern Ukraine right now? Ukraine meme army?
Thomas Peterson
A whole bunch of that land is just endless Taiga, only thing you can do with that is log it.
Angel Reed
The presidential admin is reporting that claims of a Ukrainian attack are false.
Cooper Jones
Starting wars is unwise and creates a stronger boogeyman. Remember what they did to Hitler?
Why not just let Ukraine dig its own hole and wait for them to beg Russia to come back? EU closed their doors. They're all alone now. Just wait for leadership to collapse. Current rule of tyrany and brainwashing in Ukraine won't last long.
Connor Fisher
They literally begged the Brits to take a truckload of their land for free. They want Western Europeans to do all the work for them.
Josiah Gutierrez
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Carson Lewis
What's the difference between this conflict and Germans invading Poland to protect ethnic Germans?
Isaiah Ward
Wasn't that only for Russian citizen who emigrated out of the country?
Josiah Lewis
Yes, Russian citizens only.
Lincoln James
Pretty sure the free land was only for Russian citizens.
Why take a slice of Ukraine now, when you can force a bloody stalemate instead, and have DNR rejoin Ukraine on your terms. That way you have a lever of control over the whole country, not just it's eastern portion.
Caleb Reed
Did the Ukrainian finally understood they are being played like damn fiddle?
Eli Bennett
White Russians are a tiny populace in comparison to the various shits they lord over in the east, most of which aren't in great number either and live their traditional lifestyles rather than how the Slav does out west.
Eastern Russia is fucking barren when it comes to people. Its like when Donbass was being set up way back when serfs were still a thing. Russia needed educated people to get shit done and hilariously enough an illiterate brit managed to build it up into the whole industrial heart of the Russian Empire itself.
Lincoln Mitchell
Wait - since when has there been a civil war in The Ukraine? Like, they're fighting themselves, not Crimea/Putin?
Tyler Miller
Daily reminder europe and third reich were destroyed by russian subhumans
Brayden Thompson
Of course, Ukraine doesn't want to be held as the side that broke Minsk-2 or else the US and EU can't aid them without DNR/LPR and Russia gaining the moral high ground.
Juan King
Lost you there mate, why would putin want to give dnr back to ukraine? Aren't we talking about russia expanding its territory?
Jacob Lopez
As far as I'm concerned both sides are squatting on what is rightfully my land.
t.Black sea German
Levi Robinson
Russia views Ukraine to itself like US Puerto Rico. And that's pretty accurate historically. They let them do their own thing as long as they don't side with the west. Well now they broke that and they're being sucked on by the jew.
Austin Carter
What is are the war aims anyway in this point of the war?
All of it has been bombed to shit. The eastern provinces would only cause economic trouble to already stretched Ukrainian economy
NATO has been very hands off with the situation. They haven't banked any real resources for the Ukrainian side during the conflict, they probably wont afterwards either
That's like wanting to suck a tit of a dead cow. EU is in its death throes, and the kind of infrastructure boon received by Poland and Baltic countries is out of the question.
This is probably the only reason. The egos of Ukrainian leadership can't take letting the provinces have self-determination on the scale they'd want after 2 years of civil war.
What Russia wants? Nobody knows, but the current stalemate is favorable to them.
I'm a bit triggered here tbh, user.
Noah Campbell
You need to understand that the peoples in the east want unification with Russia in all sense of the word, but there is a risk that Moscow jewry will infect the DNR and it'll completely corrupt it anyways.
Unfortunately, no one on this fucking board understands that Moscow and Washington are one and the same in their aims, kill off as many conscious peoples.
It's been a civil war since the eastern Ukrainians capture the government buildings of Donetsk and Luhansk, don't you remember that that an 'anti-maidan' happened in the east?
No, that's not true at all. Ukraine is just a peripheral region like Alaska would be to the US, same thing with Kazakhstan and all of the other areas that are rightfully the Russian Empire under the Russian crown.
Don't you get it? Russia (government) doesn't want anything. The people in the east want this. If Russia (the Russian government) wanted this, Putin would've protected the people there but he didn't.
Angel Young
I find it hilarious that people like Azov when the DPR kicked all the gays out and terrorized the gypos.
For the most part the fighting is done by locals. Americans back the Ukrainians and Russians back well the Russians.
Its a proxy war in a sense.
Hunter Sullivan
Nigger listen. I won't deny that commies fight for Novorosisya. But most of Lugansky Militia are Cossacks, RNU people and so forth, die hard right wing Orthodox/Pagan militias
Xavier Cook
I think Putin would prefer DNR to be a part of Ukraine as some kind of autonomous republic instead. That way there will be a very pro-russian region swaying Ukrainian politics. Annexing DNR would just give him a small slice of, admittedly well industrialized land. Letting DNR be absorbed into Ukraine on his terms would put the whole of Ukraine back into Russia's sphere of influence.
Blake Davis
An Eastern Ukrainian soldier's reporting that the Ukrainians launched a small skirmish against their positions, and that it was unsuccessful.
Liam Harris
So in your opinion this whole conflict is about Vladimir punishing Ukraine for leaning toward west? If that's the case all it's gonna take for ceasefire is Ukraine admitting to be a little whore.
Angel Gonzalez
Russia doesn't want to be cut off from the West nor another NATO base so near their country. I can understand why he doesn't want to pull the army in, but why not close the gas pipelines and let the other side just freeze to death?
James Miller
Теперь окончательный ответ: как реагировать - должны принимать на очень высоком уровне, а это небыстро. Так что лозунг Медведева: "Помощи нет, но вы держитесь" - единственное, что можно говорить пока атакуемым ополченцам.
Thought I would hare, Russanon on Russchan says that he thinks that this isn't much of a full fledged assault but more of reaction check.
Noah Collins
Is the US going to let Texas hold secession referendum?
Justin Roberts
See, Russia is a big leveled plain. They have no natural defenses against invasions, so their mind is paranoid. To cope, they created a big empire that reaches to everywhere where you can find mountains. One painful spot is Ukraine. If west controls it, they have an easy access to Russia. They can't allow that.
Oliver Diaz
You're delusional. Maybe read up on the history of Russia and get back on this topic, none of your posts make any sense. Russia has only one enemy, and that is China, there goes your theory of paranoia out of the window. China will invade Russia and the government knows this, but they don't care. What's going on in Ukraine is ethnic cleansing of the self-dependant populations (Donbass is an industrious region filled with industrious peoples).
Michael Williams
Daily reminder that Crimea became part of Ukraine because commies.
Xavier Gonzalez
And the ukranian are not? I'm suppose to sympathize with people who fight alongside literal communists. why?
Adrian Campbell
Texas is a pretty good allegory to the Ukrainian conflict.
You know that the US couldn't let them leave, and the Texans in turn would rise up as separatist militias.
Liam Diaz
Because jews on the other side.
Gavin Russell
Because DNR aren't inherently communist fucktwat
Dylan Perry
Azov is bankrolled by an actual kike if I recall. Lots of the militias were/are.
David Cruz
Your post is incoherent. I'm talking about an attitude which was established by tzars centuries ago and was impetus for shaping Russia into its general shape. You, on the other hand, threw three different topics in a post and never connected them.
Jeremiah Anderson
ALL HAIL AZOV FUCK THE PUTIN SHILLS ALL HAIL AZOV FUCK THE PUTIN SHILLS ALL HAIL AZOV FUCK THE PUTIN SHILLS ALL HAIL AZOV FUCK THE PUTIN SHILLS ALL HAIL AZOV FUCK THE PUTIN SHILLS
Adrian Smith
there were no ethnic german in Poland to begin with, might as well argue that France was protecting it's citizens in western germany
Carson Bennett
Are you fucking retarded?
Easton Russell
Please don't insult the German this way.You are being played for something even the fucking politicians boasted about:the safety cordon around russia
Logan Jenkins
lol There aren't now. Not so a century ago.
Adam Gray
this tbh
russians are huge cocksuckers
Easton Carter
Texas is like 50% white and a couple of cycles away from becoming a swing state. And a chunk of that white populatiion isn't even Texan.
Jacob Hill
check out this commander of azov battalion with israeli weaponry
Carter Murphy
They're putting themselves into a pocket again. What the fuck is wrong with these people?
Carter Sullivan
This attitude wasn't established by czars, and you're pulling shit out of your arse, Russia was pretty well governed until the revolutionaries started coming. Also, the eastern european cossacks are still legally under the czars rule, that's why donbass for certain people is important because it ensures a christian enclave.
William Parker
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Justin Smith
Its what happens when you lose any experienced troops from the soviet days either through defection, death or budget cuts way back when. Basically the Army is being ran by green folk.
Christopher Wood
Christ, you're making me pull out youtube vids to drive my point.
Cooper Jackson
Yes, because a Ukrainian weapons making facility made a deal with the developer to produce Tavors in Ukraine.
So you're actually gonna take some assholes opinion over the real deal? No wonder you're fucked, you're listening to Molyneux tier garbage.
Also, Peter the great sold Russia to germany, shows how much you really know about Russian history.
Oliver Murphy
Nope. Next you'll tell me Eastern Ukraine is full of ethnic Ukrainians and Russia is oppressing them.
Chase Morris
Wrong dude bro.
Adrian Morales
Sorry
Also, look up 'Grand Tartary', this fuckers hypothesis is is completely delusional, and a reflection of German rewriting of history.
Owen Russell
(((TPTB))) using their Ukrainian lackeys to instigate war with Russia before a Trump presidency (and, presumably, normalization of relations with Russia).
Nathan White
Sorry mate, but you'll have to give me something more if you wish to be taken seriously.
Jeremiah Rivera
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Landon Perez
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Aiden Peterson
This board is so adept at detecting Jewish lies. If only it were half as good with Nazi ones…
Cameron Smith
Muscovy = / = Russia
Jaxson Cooper
Poland is nothing more than the toilet of Europe and not even a real country.
Daniel Clark
Russia itself is bankrolled by literal jews. Putin was head of the KGB
Aiden Jones
Whenever Russians feel like being gigantic cocksuckers and annexing thier neighbors they accuse them of not being a real country.
Jackson Morgan
One Katyn wasn't enough.
Parker Brooks
That's Holla Forums & propaganda 101: meme it until it becomes reality.
We do the same shit.
Anthony Long
Someone hasn't understood what meme magic really is
Aiden Evans
They want to join the EU & NATO.
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Xavier Cruz
Okay, you're either stupid or an actual paid Russian shill. The Ukie nationalist groups have all unequivocally condemned faggotry, and have bombed most attempts at pride parades - that one got off with thousands of cops protecting it. They had to hold it in the outskirts of Kyiv and maintain opsec just to protect it. Most of the nationalist groups also oppose joining the EU. Ukrainians in general hate faggotry, last time they tried to have a "pride" the grandmothers were out waving signs and spitting on the fags.
Most of the nationalist groups also support ties with Poland and the Baltics, not joining the EU. Despite what the western media said, the Maidan wasn't as much about joining the EU as it was about the utterly ridiculous Ukrainian bureaucracy.
Poroshenko is a Washington puppet, but his approval ratings are lower than Yanukovitch's were.
Carter King
I generally stay away from threads like this, but your post made me come out of lurking. Congratz, matey, it's rare thing among Westerners to understand that.
Asher Hall
That's a slingshot
Adam Bennett
THIS
Nathaniel Campbell
It's a triangle in my mind, you killjoy.
Lincoln Watson
It was never real. Just backstabing Putin's trick to let ukrops escape and regroup.
Christopher Perez
And they run Ukraine?
Who runs Ukraine?
Who decides if Ukraine joins EU & NATO?
Get with reality; these people do not get to decide the course of the looted nation they now live in.
I'm Greek; you think we have a choice about being in the EU? Ukraine is being turned into the next slave state; they've already been looted, all that's left is to sell their future for nothing.
Wake the fuck up.
Michael Harris
LONG STORY SHORT ukraine got cucked by Obama and Merkel Putin did damage control and made donbass happen new ukranine is collapsing under the control of western agents maidan extremists know they ot cucked so kiev sends them as cannon fodder to donbass where militias slaughter disorganised and illequipped ukranian units while the militias get support in arms, personnel, intelligence and leadership from russia
overall, donbass will become a frozen conflict like chechnya, ukraine will be a failed state that wont get into the EU, while NATO will use it as a military base, just like Kosovo. Donbass and Lugansk will be eventually kept on social/financial life support from russia and as more and more of citizens will leave to russia, it will become a militarized buffer zone for russia
who won? not russia, not ukraine, but as always the international ___
Zachary Flores
I don't know user; frozen conflict is better than what history usually has happen like with the serbs exclave having a similar situation only to be run over with a blitzkrieg within 3 days.
Joshua Watson
This, most, if not all of the oligarchs here are literal jews. But Putin was no thet head of KGB - he was an agent of the Leningrad branch, as far as I remember. He was stationed by Yeltsin's crew (aka oligarchs) as president only in order to keep the crew in true power and have the oil, gas, resource money. Tons of that money go to foreign banks.
Look, I know that Russia now is much better than the USSR and the 90's Russia ever was (I've seen some shit in the 90's and I don't wish to ever remember it), but for fuck sake, do not blindly trust Putin and his oligarchs. But, of course, I'm a D&C shill and Putin is God-Emperor who dindu nuffin wrong, blah-blah-blah.
t. russian
Cooper Powell
*not the
Fuck, I better go to sleep now.
Matthew Reed
Azov has its own tank factory. Golden Dawn does not. Kyiv is walking a fine line and due to the level of corruption in the country has virtually no enforcement mechanism. Ukraine has the potential to get much more interesting than most people on Holla Forums seem to realize.
Joseph Lewis
Do they sell tanks?
Easton Martin
Debatable, Soviet bureaucrats at least planned for indefinitely long and bitter conflict. Quality of life in modern Russia is just as shit outside of Moscow, St. Petersburg, and other major cities (and they were degenerate metropoli even back then), but it's also no longer an autarchy.
Won't say 'we' because I turned my back on the State of Russia, which has done nothing but cucked Russians to the various foreigners almost as long as it existed.
t. another Russian.
Ethan Robinson
russia wont let that. the dondass basin is the industral heartland of ukraine. its not just a piece of land as a bufferzone.
think of chechoslovakia in the 30s and 40s. germany invaded it very early not just because of territory, but because of its industry.
Blake Cruz
Yeah I think that's a safe stance user.
Thing is though, conflicts like Ukraine & Syria are pretty black and white. The Ukranian people are getting pozzed, their wealth is being siphoned off to foreign countries, and they don't even get to decide what happens.
Long story short, want to know who is fighting the good fight in this brave new world? Find out who is opposing the United States.
Right now, that's Russia.
This is true user, but I don't think that tank factory will matter at all when the United States masters decide that Azov has outlived its usefulness.
Remember, we were already part of the EU and, before Golden Dawn could take over, they were all thrown in jail.
Ukraine is a different situation.
I hope for the sake of the Ukranian people you are right, but I have the feeling that if such a thing happens, it will mean United States "Democracy" coming to visit Ukraine.
Ukraine will turn into Syria and, worst of all, it will probably always have been part of (((their))) plan.
The only way out for them is for things to go as you say, but how can that possibly happen?
Cooper Flores
Are Ukrainians slaughtering ethnic Russians?
lies
Nolan Sanders
Yeah I think that's a safe stance user.
Thing is though, conflicts like Ukraine & Syria are pretty black and white. The Ukranian people are getting pozzed, their wealth is being siphoned off to foreign countries, and they don't even get to decide what happens.
Long story short, want to know who is fighting the good fight in this brave new world? Find out who is opposing the United States.
Right now, that's Russia.
This is true user, but I don't think that tank factory will matter at all when the United States masters decide that Azov has outlived its usefulness.
Remember, we were already part of the EU and, before Golden Dawn could take over, they were all thrown in jail.
Ukraine is a different situation.
I hope for the sake of the Ukranian people you are right, but I have the feeling that if such a thing happens, it will mean United States "Democracy" coming to visit Ukraine.
Ukraine will turn into Syria and, worst of all, it will probably always have been part of (((their))) plan.
The only way out for them is for things to go as you say, but how can that possibly happen?
Not sure if that's rhetorical, but pic related.
Nathan James
That's politically motivated street fighting. The poles were massacring families in their homes.
Alexander Cooper
You see, dear Olag, being a lying subhuman really doesnt help.
Nathaniel Bell
And so was Mikhail Khodorkovsky,who bought,with Rothschild money,the petrol field in Siberia and was going to sell it in stock exchange.Where is he now?If it wasn't for Putin,not even Gazprom would be Russianl.I'm not a Russian,but isn't this a sign that,there is at least something going behind?
Joseph White
Your pick is an outcome of two militant groups - one pro-Russian, another pro-Ukrainian - clashing. There was a battle and one group lost badly, but Odessa is still speaking Russian mostly, and nobody persecutes ethnic Russians for their Russianness. To be honest, it's a completely different beast, neither Russia nor Ukraine. Odessa is, well, Odessa, even with Jews out.
Source: had been to Odessa with the family on NYE every year since Maidan.
Andrew Jenkins
You are right user, and Putin has been confiscating their wealth and throwing them in jail, but what other user said is right. You can't blindly follow the guy.
You have to take it situation by situation and there are plenty of jew oligarchs in russia left.
That being said, the situation in Ukraine is very obviously black and white.
Just ask yourself:
Who does the United States support?
Thanks for the correction user; it really is a completely different situation then.
James Cox
Gazprom is run by a kike (((Miller))), as well as Rosneft (((Sechin))) and they're looking to China for investments.
I'd rather have Russia submit to EU than become a chink vassal state.
Angel Hernandez
How could they even be so retarded? They do realise that this is basically casus belli for Russia to have an above-table military intervention?
Maybe it's Russian fifth column
Colton Watson
The people of Dotnesk are Russians; their ancestors are Russians and their first language is Russian. Dotnesk itself was Russian up until Lenin decided to give it away to the hohols. Kiev wants to remove Russian-ness from Dotnesk in a similar manner to how Jews want to remove Whiteness from the West. It's a quiet genocide.
Grayson Myers
wasnt much of a battle dude, shooting jumpers and incinerating everyone left inside the building, was a crazy thing to watch
Hunter Morris
It remains to be seen. A US invasion of Ukraine is militarily possible, but would either result in a guaranteed Trump win if before the election, or if after the election would be enormously unpopular. A full scale Russian invasion is more likely if Ukrainian nationalists took power.
There's also a functioning nuclear power industry in Ukraine and significant left behind nuclear engineering capacity. The capacity for rapid nuclear armament, at least at a basic level, exists.
I'm not saying Ukraine isn't in a bad spot. All of Europe is. But the factors for a genuine nationalist takeover are much more prevalent in Ukraine than anywhere else.
And just because Russia is the enemy of your enemy doesn't make it your friend. Remember that their psychological warfare capacity is as advanced as what the US has.
Owen Ward
It wasn't a random act, giving Novorossija to the Ukros. It was a way of maintaining an ethnic plurality so that Ukrainian separatism would be impossible. Which of course didn't work.
That said yea it should be separate
Parker Cooper
At least try to be less obvious, chaim.
Cooper Young
The Donbass was far more ethnically Ukrainian than Russian before the holodomor, katsap.
Bentley Brown
Im pro Third Reich as it gets but these are as questionable as the Holohoax "proof". Regardless of their authenticity, Im glad the Poleshits are getting the taste of their own medicine. They have always been the number 2 promoter of the Holohoax.
Christopher Turner
Nigger, learn some reading comprehension.
Right now, Russia is on fast track towards Chinese takeover. Google if you need proof, otherwise take it as my opinion and proceed to discard because that's different from yours and Anglin's. And if I had to choose between two poison pills - one called China and other called EU - I'd take the latter. Because EU is largely toothless and can't really enforce anything - Poland has gone fascist lite, Hungary built a wall, guess what, both remain full members of the Union with all the benefits and none of the drawbacks.
Jaxson King
Of course you have to doubt.I know there is someone/something behind Putin.What i don't know if it's the same people behind US or it's another different group.It get depressing knowing that there is nothing nor a single one who can stood in this sea of shit.
That is probably the alternative plan.Of one thing we can be sure is that the people behind Putin have one goal: Eurasia.From Spain to Russia,no China.As it always was. But if Russia lose any kind of access to the West,they will have to retort back to the Chink. China suffers from worse problem than Russia by a geographic stand point,same as India.Without massive conquest or really buying everything in the West,the US will not allow them to even think about it.In fact,the fact that Russia is still standing is matter of surprise.
Connor White
Thanks for the hope user; I'm envious then and hope that they pull it off before they get too pozzed.
That is true user, but Russians have always looked out for us, even when they were virtually powerless during the 90's genocide.
I know that the government looks after its own interests there, but the people have bled for us willingly and continue to do so.
Either way, I hope Ukraine gets its shit together in a manner that's best for Ukraine; whatever they think of themselves, we still think of them as our brothers too.
That's why this conflict is so heartbreaking.
Caleb Collins
China suffers from the problem it's fucking China. A state which enslaved it's own people in order for a small, Western-educated elite to become political and economic powerhouse.
They're worse than kikes. They're also just as prone to group mentality and nepotism as kikes. MPC has a few good threads on Asians in general and Chinese specifically.
Brody Jenkins
I had no idea; time to go educate myself. Those threads are always gold.
Thanks user!
Matthew Flores
Fuck off kike.
Ayden James
Oh, look at those poor Jews murdered by the Nazis. Truly, they are the proof that the holocaust happened. Remember the 6 million.
Joshua Carter
I'm not talking about people.Their force is in the fact they are so many,they produce and sell more than they consume and most of the wealth is held by a bunch of elites. The problem is that this can't go on forever and we are seeing it now.If they ever try to change their situation they will find Russia up and a sea completely surrounded by the US down.Without really sending thousands to die and let them be shelled by nuclear fire,they can't revert this. Their work in Africa is,as now,fucking useless.They need resources from Russia.And Russia,if completely surrounded,will have to cave to one or the other to exist. The Brexit is a good thing though.Because if the EU starts to fall down it can re-open Europe to Russia in far more way than the EU or the sanction could.
Hudson Rogers
Look into China implementing good goy points recently - basically, a (((social networking app))) which gives you a quantifiable reputation, much like an online forum, but in real life. And it will be considered an important statistic by employers and universities, of course…
China is what kikes dream when they crawl under their sheets.
Geopolitics is not real, not in modernity. Stop wanking off to Dugin, he's anti-white and explicitly stated so.
Julian Cox
Fuck off, D&C shill.
Eli Lee
Are you fucking real?This is not Dugin,this is fucking Brzezinski.C'mon user.
Evan Morris
So, an old Jew speaking typical Jewish drivel. According to that lawgic, Central Europe should be a shithole - which it is not.
William Sanchez
Holla Forums never changes
Eli Lee
You don't even fucking know Brzezinski?He made an entire book about the Israel Lobby in US and how fucking stupid was for the US to get involved in Middle East,since they gained nothing out and it's just to help Israel.Hell he said US should deny Israel airspace.
Angel Scott
White Ukrainians fighting for White Nationalism
Jackson Powell
The shills that have a chip on their shoulder, pathetic
k.
Colton Parker
Look at these brave men defending Europe from the Russians, who are Mongol-Tatars from Asia!
Lincoln Garcia
RIDF, please
Nolan Hill
Hitler was secretly fond of Muslims, who are our Turkic brothers.
Jaxson Nguyen
The Russians are Asian savages, not true Europeans like these men
Noah Campbell
We are the true followers of Hitler tbh
Colton Watson
NIe pic, do you know where it came from?
Levi Cox
Some of the VK groups, they tend to be cancer though.
Oliver Long
This conflict will never end because slavs don't fight for glory or politics.
They do it for fun and vodka, even chance to shoot someone legally would be a greatest thing to do for a slav. They are unstoppable killing machines for who war is a fun video game.
Neither americans, mudshits, asians or europeans would understand that. We are cruel motherfuckers who would die laughing, and kill smiling.
Do you think they would stop killing each other because they are all white brothers? Nope, sorry, too much vodka hits the head and its time to reload ak-47 and have more fun. Jews know our weakness of killing for fun, they utilize it well.
Joseph White
Brzezinski is a pole, not a Jew, idiot. Kissinger hated him because he thought all Poles were antisemitic
Zachary Jenkins
Wrong user.
Christian Gray
I know he's supposed to be a Pollack, and there are no apparent Jewish relations at a glance, but he supported way too much Jewry, including bombing campaigns in Serbia and arming mujaheedins. Just because he doesn't like Israel doesn't mean he's not a good goy.
Nathaniel Campbell
Not disputing that he hasn't done good goy things, just arguing about his ethnicity.
Evidence?
Nathan Moore
He was already out of office at that time IIRC
user you quoted me instead of .I know he isn't a jew. i already said it
Joseph Cook
His policy echoes quite hard, I suppose his names does too - he's just good at hiding it. Better than most kikes.
Kayden Sanders
More like trying to make sure that Russia didn't have to fight on two fronts at once, let alone in a world war scenario. Now they've shown their strength and capabilities in Syria and kept their own tactical options available (Russian base in Tartus, Syria, for example).
It probably wasn't an easy decision but it did save us from at least 8 months of all-out war, allowing time for things like Brexit to occur.
NATO's probably in panick mode: No big war to distract the people and show them why the EU is needed means bye bye NATO, bye bye EU soon.
I've read that (((Kissinger))) dislike him because he reminded him of the Polish goys who used to bully him as a child.
Chase Myers
This better be a fucking joke
Benjamin Green
It writes itself
Owen Scott
lmao ukrainischer Abschaum
Jayden Watson
I don't get it, why do you say that user?
I don't think so user. (((NATO))) doesn't need that to proliferate. They're even expanding into fucking Serbia for God's sake.
SERBIA
Luke Allen
We really need to rename the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. If people learned what NATO stands for they'd probably ask more questions.
Jeremiah Bennett
Halts Maul Ivan
Colton Walker
On the topic of "communists" in East Ukraine, here is what you should be at least aware of:
- They promote straight cultural conservatism - They are ethnic Russians so to them nostalgia to communism is nostalgia to the time where they were not separated from their country, i.e. an expression of ethnic nationalism - Pretty much the only leftist thing about them is being against oligarchs and for state controlled mines/industry which is not so bad really - They do not want to export their ideology to anyone, unlike Obama and Kerry "fighting for LGBT rights worldwide" - They are on their land and they are being attacked by people who hate them and want to bring them under the yoke of EU/NATO by force.
Also, consider this article by ((Bloomberg) where they admit THAT THE LEADER OF THE RUSSIAN COMMUNIST PARTY WOULD BE CONSIDERED "RIGHT WING NATIVIST" IN USA
A red flag with hammer and sickle disgusts me as much as the next person, but you should concentrate on substance, rather than on symbols which are perceived very differently by the people who use them.
And the ukrainian faggots are certainly no Nazis to me just because they wave swastikas.
John Garcia
Bought any new Hakenkreuzfahnen from your allowance paid by Schlomo Judensternstein yet?
Matthew Roberts
Did you buy a new Hammer and Sickle Flag from your allowance paid by Chaim Putinsteinberg yet?
Connor Perry
Donbass and Luhansk is where all the cheap labour and factories are. It's coincidentally where all the Russian speakers are. They should let them go but they won't because they want that industry.
Nathaniel Martin
I never claimed Putin, Russia or the Novorossiya guys are good yet you sperg the fuck out thinking I support them.
You can't be any more obvious, you judeophile Untermensch.
Daniel James
You're not on their side, so you're on Russia's. Easy as that, kikeboy
Jayden Perry
what
Benjamin Russell
Duality was a mistake.
Jose Cooper
sorry to dissapoint you but it was us Serbians who made you start WW1 and lose WW2. Hitler lost 2 months with his offensive on yugoslavia and those were the 2 months he later would have needed to slay stalin for good. Remember, Hitler was 100km from moscow when winter came and fucked his troops and mechanization.
If Serbians would not have delayed Hitler: - stalin would have lost moscow - stalin would have lost most of his industrial power - a nationalist regime would have been installed in moscow just like in paris - stalin would have been BTFO - stalingrad would have never happened - hitler would have bombed UK into stone age with no front in the east to worry about
I also read that UK was 3 months before collapse. They had no pilots for their RAF and polish pilots were dropping bombs on Germany. If Hitler would have only had 3 more months he would have broken the UK.
Nathaniel Hernandez
Thank you for salvaging this thread dvachposter.
Lucas Thomas
Motorola has been dead for a while. Givi should still be alive though
Asher Jenkins
Did she die in the first one? like literally eaten by that escalator?
Xavier Hall
Motorola did have an assassination attempt against him, but he seems fine.
Parker Cox
Last time they tried to take Debaltsevo it went horribly wrong. I hope the same will happen again.
Carter Sanders
In other news, the Ukrainian assault ended in utter failure, they lost several armored vehicles and troops.
Jaxson Torres
Could be propaganda
Hudson Rivera
It's not, the Ukrainian media and twitter feeds are reporting the same thing.
Also, no casualties on the side of the eastern ukrainians, the reason the Ukrainians didn't make it is because of eastern ukrainian artillery.
Tyler Gomez
Yes.
Easton Evans
As much as its fun to take sides and cheer for the USA/NATO/Ukraine making a fool of themselves in the arts of war, I think the problem is that the USA/NATO, or even the Ukraine, are fighting this war with the intention of winning it.
This is either just another advanced probing, testing of Russian response time and effort or meant to distract and try to wear the Russians thin, keep their eyes on their western border rather than their southern one (China).
Ultimately it could even be trying to unleash WW3 in a panicked, badly coordinated effort to try to hide the crimes of the Jews.
As long as they don't lose their own sons and daughters to the war, they don't consider it in any way a defeat if the Ukrainian army gets BTFO'd again.
Noah Taylor
They killed him eafterwards
John Hill
yes, we already had a thread about this full of subhumans getting off to torture
Ulrainians might as well be Chinks
Bentley Jenkins
the ukrainian conflict shows well how civil uprising can cause shitloads of trouble for the government. The seperatists may have been armed by the russkies but it is impressive how they are causing such losses on the kiev site without even beeing an organized army
this is good news for us and it shows us that gubmint is not allmighty even if it has military power. Also the war ruined the financial situation for kiev and they are really bleeding hard.
Jonathan Bailey
Motorola Big Jihad
Thomas Diaz
Ukrainian journalist reporting the withdrawing of casualties from the front line.
I can tell you for certain that China will invade Russia and it's gonna be soon. Also, the creation of a Russian national guard under the kremlin is proof that Russia will be engaged in civil war really soon, just like America, except in Russia the civilians won't win. Also, Russia isn't independant, Russia is owned by Germany, don't get involved in politics, it's a distraction.
It's also a good indicator into what modern warfare will look like. Also, the sky in eastern Ukraine is defacto a no fly zone, shows how much air-superiority really matters in wars.
Ryan Morales
You significantly underestimate the level of corruption of the Kyiv government. Half of the supplies the troops needed to fight were simply stolen and sold on black markets - there were groups of western Ukrainian grandmothers going to Poland and smuggling body armor and other supplies into Ukraine just to supply the army. The separatists, with Russian supply and significant weapons stores in the East have been better supplied until recently, if not still, with weapons and armor.
I wouldn't consider it indicative of what you would face going up against a western government, unless you have Russian supply ships inbound and the government in question is horribly corrupt to the point where they steal the MREs from the troops.
Owen Smith
Also this.
Video related, alleged footage of national guard selling humvees to the eastern Ukrainians.
Caleb Hughes
In this scenario do nukes exist? Or do people possess the ability to disable ICBMs and we just don't know about it?
Otherwise, noone is invading anyone until it's clear that civil unrest has led to nuclear capability being removed.
Jonathan Morris
>The seperatists may have been armed by the russkies but it is impressive how they are causing such losses on the kiev site without even beeing an organized army They don't. Regular russian army did this and go buck behind the border.
Levi Powell
Ukrainian and Russian are not the same language OP, they're actually fairly different from each other.
Adrian Williams
WHAT?
Lincoln Baker
That's "novorossian rebel".
Hudson Lee
About the Chinese? No, they will walk in like it's their own territory, they're doing it now.
There are only thirty million people in Siberia, China can deploy twenty million, but five million would suffice. The chinese are better armed than the Russians anyways.
There are probably millions of illegal Chinese workers in Siberia already, they bought many entire oblasts.
Dominic Adams
Op, please.
John Mitchell
You just went full retard.
Never go full retard.
HEIL HITLER
Justin Bennett
Well fuck is the Nazis got their asses kicked by the "Slavic subhumans" that doesn't speak to highly of the Aryan master race does it?
Lincoln Taylor
You took 20 million cassulties and got saved by the US. The Germans shoved the russians shit in so hard the population won't recover for 100 years if ever. MUH AWESOME USSR this is why I hate you vlad
Josiah Rivera
Did you know that nowhere in actual NatSoc literature or material - nowhere at all, not once - does appear the term "master race"/Herrenrasse? Don't fall for such easy lies.
Ayden Turner
Fuck man, that's a brutal way to go. Have to feel sorry for that poor kid.
Xavier Flores
The only reason there are Russians in eastern Ukraine was because the Soviets fucking genocided the original Ukrainian inhabitants.
For all the mention of Holodomor we have here, people seem to be very unable to connect the dots.
Christian Robinson
20 million downed and still had enough fight left to retake all that stolen land and then some.
Maybe your stupid asses shouldn't have declared war on the united states, maybe you should have defended your beaches better.
Leo Robinson
As long as there is a planet Earth and with politics on it, there will be geopolitics. What a non-sensical statement.
Levi Peterson
And Germany did that well. Having its armies exhausted and most of them in the eastern front, they could defend the coast better and D-Day was a success, althought not an eficient one.
Anthony Mitchell
Probably millions because there are already several million chinese workers already working on contracts. They grow food and cut forests and bring it back to china to make chinky noodles and chinky chopsticks.
Peter the great was a German who converted Russia from a pravoslav aryan nation into a country of 'western values' i.e intellectual serfdom. The later Romanovs reversed this process, but they were again, occupied by Germans through the bolshevik revolution. Currently, Putin (east german intelligence) answers to the, the Russian zionists, and the German globalists, he is a mediator in this whole thing. Also, he's an intelligence operative, he knows how to conduct public relations.
Holodomor is a myth perpetuated by Jewish Ukrainian-Canadians. The term 'Ukrainian' is just like the term 'Alaskan', both are subject to the same nation, in this case for Ukraine it's the Russian Empire. Many more Russians died than Ukrainians anyway during this time.
Asher Gomez
What the fuck am I reading
Jordan Perez
There having been certain German aristocrats in pre-revolutionary times doesn't mean that "Germany rules Russia" - an absolutely stupid thing to say. Germany doesn't rule anything nowadays - even the elites and big capital who heavily collude with the EU and America have very definite limits on their political freedom of action. Bring proof/sources or GTFO.
Austin Russell
500 men in heavily fortified bunkers loaded to the brim with ammo on top of numerous shelling emplacements.
You don't need as many troops if your fortifications are secure. Your picture also left out the fact that 50,000 american troops died as well. The Germans really weren't the underdogs in that scenario.
Colton Wilson
ALL UKRAINIANS ARE KIKE SLAVES
UKRAINIANS DON'T EXIST
PUTIN IS A WHITE NATIONALIST
RUSSIA IS A WN SUPERSTATE
Michael Ramirez
A post made by a Rus.
Welcome to Russia thread user. If you disagree u hate russia. russia bnest in world. All things anti rus are lie
Michael Bell
That's what you believe, Germany is in charge of all of Europe because the power behind Berlin is the power behind Brussels, they're one and the same and they want global communism under the UN. This plan is ancient, it goes back to egypt, the descendants of who live in today's switzerland.
Peter the great killed what Hitler supposedly wanted to restore, ancient traditions thousands of years old. Did you know that Tibet and Russia were both under the rule of a nation called Tartaria for a thousand years? Did you also know that Peter the Great BURNED all of the written accounts of these books? Hitler salvaged what little was left, and created this whacky mush of Nordic tradition and eastern occultism, that's why the national emblem of that time was the swastika, and indicator of hitler's plan to create new atlantis. Too bad Hitler was a swiss jew that answered only to the globalist elite situated in Berlin.
Asher Anderson
For Wehrmacht personell, being assigned to the Western front was considered merciful, a bit like vacation. And yes, holding a beach front against an overwhelming amphibic attack like Overlord with a battalion's strength of second-line troops, that counts for something. But I don't want to hate; operationally, Overlord was beatuifully executed, and most Yanks simply didn't know they were on a suicide mission on behalf of Jews.
Logan Martinez
The Germans were the underdogs the whole God damn war you kike slave neo nigger USSR fuck
Joseph Fisher
Non-sequitur. Yes, Berlin and Brussels DO march to the same tune, but that doesn't prove in the slightest that "Germany" is behind it. We were fucked for good 70 years ago.
You talking about some Illuminati stuff?
Come on, if you're Russian you should know that what Peter did was to connect Russia to the Baltic/Western world.
Of course, that's common knowledge.
Proof/source?
this is the second time you went full retard.
And the third. Look, I'm a conspiracy nut myself, but you HAVE to actually try to create a somewhat logical picture and bring sources. You're just spouting BS and non-sequitur nuttery.
Adam Perry
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Grayson Cox
At a certain point you should accept that the man you are replying to is either genuinely retarded or is just fucking around.
Joshua Allen
Well, to be fair, that's always a razor-thin line here on Holla Forums :^)
Kevin Green
Creating a 'logical' and 'rational' explanation based off of suppositions is the myth of prometheus in action.
Peter the Great completely destroyed Russia by introducing alcoholism and degeneracy and also moral relativism, he did so by granting the western world the right to rewriting Russia's entire history and also the managing the country's development.
Russia at that time was an incredibly diverse place, in respects to tradition. Thousands upon thousands of years of magic, occult teaching, religious doctrines and spiritual reasoning were present and this was all destroyed, through western ideological serfdom.
All that Russia is today is a gas station for materials harvesting, it's been killed off by ideological serfdom.
Jack Richardson
I just saw a story about some opera singer in the right sector dying, so looks like they did indeed send out the nationalists first.
Carson Cruz
The nationalists went themselves, they act on their own accord.
Aiden Collins
This is a Russia/Ukraine thread user… Tssk tssk you ought to know better.
Benjamin Long
I'm by no means a hyper-rationalist, but you definitely should present a coherent story and at least some links. Right now you're just talking out of your ass.
Perhaps that was his plan, but Western modernity never penetrated deep into Russia before 1917. An easy scapegoat.
If by "western ideological serfdom" you mean communism, than yes, I agree. Here I admit a German responsibility - the sending of Lenin in that mystery train.
It was different during Sowiet times, and it can be different again some day. All depends on the economic policies and the world market.
Blake Williams
It's just Andrew Anglin posting with his shiney new computer from the prince of rosh. Sitting in club exile of course.
Caleb Allen
что ты думаешь про рюриковичей? они были варягами но создали «русь»
Michael Sanchez
It's a German myth. See:
Russia was inhabited long before that time, the theory is used brainwash Russians into believing that they're subject to Germanic rule.
Cooper Cook
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Nolan Young
Say that to my face and see what happens
Kevin Evans
Western ideological serfdom is believing that government has the right to dictate laws onto you. Western ideological serfdom is believing that heredity is power (racialism, darwinism). Western ideological serfdom is believing that God doesn't love you equally with all creation, and that God isn't hurt when you commit injustice.
Communism, Nazism, Capitalism, Technocracy, same shit at the end of the day, divine law dictates to man, not the other way around.
Politics and world market are nothing, they are distractions and you're too stupid to believe that they're not.
Sebastian Barnes
GTFO with that deluded BS. God knows there are whole boatloads of cucks and colluding traitors here in Krautstan, but Germany, as a country and nation, is fully and completely under the Jewish-American heel.
Grayson Garcia
this is beyond slavposting
Gabriel Howard
You do not understand. German people = / = Germanic globalism. Why I am saying German is because the modern Globalists decided to make Berlin their capital, if you didn't notice, even during Hitler's reign, the rulers were these swiss looking guys from southern Germany. If you look into history, the Germanics were en masse slaughtered by ancestors of these southern Germans.
These people don't care about race, or ethnicity, they're the ones you call Jews, but they're not exactly Jews, they're Kabbalists yes, but there are zionists who are also jews but they work in parallel to the Globalist Germans.
Hudson King
Gonna wrap up with this: Language and expression are Magic. The people you see on television are magicians and sorcerers who went to modern hogwarts. The philosophers stone is coherently translating thought and expression from thought into language. Ever get frustrated when you cannot express a certain thought or emotion to a particular group of people and get frustrated when they continue to ramble on about their dumb sjw shit? That's because you weren't taught to express your feelings through language coherently and now you resent the fact that your feelings and emotions didn't make it through. Mastering language and expression frees you from many societal chains, and when you do this you will be immediately granted power, first by men and then by God.
Hunter Price
Other than the genetic (R1a making up the main Y-haplogroup for eastern Germany), linguistic, and archaeological material evidence (Rurikovo Gorodiscshe, Alaborg) that points in the complete other direction.
Modern Russia is the birthplace of the very Aryan people (Arkaim) - the one that later split into the Germans and the Slavs. However, the expanse was first inhabited by Finno-Ugric and Turkic types. In the Wild Fields there is no way to truly create a town without it being raided by nomads, which is why Russia conquered it only after the proliferation of guns. The Slavs had always existed on that border forest of the steppe.
Isaac Gonzalez
MPC?
Asher Russell
Words have meanings. Be specific in your terminology.
Perhaps this was the plan before Hitler/WW2, but today's globalist power centres are London ("The City"), Washington, the Vatikan and Israel.
Here I agree. The Jewish menace is about much more than just shekel-grabbing. Heavily occult things going on.
Carson Nelson
The Germans of Berlin (and subsequently the rulers of Russia and Europe) have no ties to the people of Germany, they are metropolitan.
Berlin was the Capitol for the globalists even under hitler's rule, Hitler brought about a neo-occultism for the public to directly participate in, and he labeled it as solely Germanic in nature, which isn't true.Nowadays you are all practicing witchcraft and magic, but you're not aware of it.
London is a financial centre,but it still answers to the Globalists.
Don't focus on 'the Jewish menace' because through doing that they get you without your knowledge. They control every facet of society in a way you cannot even imagine, including so called 'redpilled' communities.
The only way to go against this is to separate yourself from controllable media and return to nature, the monks of Russia, Serbia and Greece are and excellent example.
Cameron Young
boy did they liberate you ukranians for centuries
Leo Lopez
I'm outta here. Without any sources, not even a puny link, I cannot continue and take you serious. You just ramble on and on and on.
Joshua Torres
"They" would be openly boasting or have no information on "them" available at all if this was true. So we aren't at that point yet.
Meanwhile you can't elaborate on who exactly you're talking about.
Camden Kelly
They are openly boasting it and you don't even see it. They use kabbalistic numerology, symbology and black magic. On the television, every single newscaster is a magician. You don't think so? That's because they also control what the term magician means. The make you think it's got something to do with potions and spells, all of which you do practice anyways.
They know you will focus on the Jewish menace, infact they know that you will think you can even begin to know, so it is much simpler for them to attack you mentally through information and rational. The thing about rational is that it's a compromise, and compromise isn't truth now is it?
John Ward
I could care less about inside jokes, because they really aren't that funny. Anyone using a callsign, whether through numerology or symbology, should be laughed at. You still didn't elaborate on who "they" are, despite giving lots of claims with no sources.
Xavier Barnes
this thread is going full apocalypse now
Justin Gomez
Smells like propaganda user; I'm praying for it to be true though. I've been worrying when Donbass would flare up again.
when my buddy was in the army a couple years ago, he used to hang out with russian mafia guys in the bars off base.
He would tell them how ridiculous the us military was to their unbelieving ears and they would tell him horror stories from afghanistan.
After they got really buddy buddy, they told him what they planned to do if war ever broke out between nato and Russia.
First, they'd send a few well equipped guys to all the monuments, erect russian flags, and dig in.
When the inevitable overkill response happened, the rest of them would take the undermanned police stations, military bases, and .etc and hold out until the nukes started dropping or the tanks rolled over berlin.
This doesn't sound like a russia that's germany's bitch (who is in turn our bitch).
Brayden Nelson
Sounds like typical russia stronk masturbatory fantasies
Mason Scott
On last count the ukrainian army lost thousands of vehicles and hundreds of tanks mainly by being retards.
Them pushing forward in a "weak" point and getting slaughtered in the counterattack sounds exactly like them.
Blue are Ukrainian losses, red rebels (and nowhere is the map exhaustive).
Zachary Nguyen
Doesn't Ukraine have US/NATO "military advisers" making sure they're not so shit though?
Parker Taylor
I can tell you for a fact we have """military observers""" in the Ukraine
Aaron Lee
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Gabriel Campbell
Then why is Ukraine doing so shitty? Are our military advisers not what they used to be, or is Russia's that much better?
Jordan Gray
Well, take a look at the Sino-Japanese war.
Sure, the German trained divisions performed really, really well, but in the grand scheme of things that means jackshit if everyone else if a fuck-up, you lack logistics, and have corruption and desertion out the ass. The situations are really similar actually
Jackson Kelly
This is what Ukranians are fighting for. They literally lie to their own soldiers so they can get killed in the meat grinder at the airport.
The whole point of this war is to kill as many whites as possible, no matter which side they fight for.
Eli Mitchell
that's not how you spell proxy war
Ryder Collins
they will hang kikes in the end and all this shit will cause the nationalist on the Ukraine side to go against the faggots using them
James Young
And how is the average Donbass troop not similarly not retarded? I mean at one point these people were in the same country right?
Samuel Bennett
The elite do not play with toys and tanks, they own both sides and they couldn't give a shit about what you or your friend think. They own you, you gave yourself up willingly because you sold yourself out of ideological convictions.
No one proves anything, it's there so you find it.
Easton Phillips
it's a drug dealer
Jeremiah White
Many people who served in Afghan war and later post-Soviet conflicts are fighting in this war. It so happens that most of these involved Russia as opposed to Ukraine, so I assume ethnic Russians from Ukraine have more trained personnel. Not to mention that Russia actively sends paramilitary and ex-military units there as volunteers. I assume they are paid and funded as well.
Ukraine, on the other hand, does not have money and it's being plundered at the same time by kikes from all over the world. Ukrainian soldiers are demoralized and unwilling. They are mostly conscripts running in wave attacks. Ukrainians have to resort to using Soros-funded kosher neo-faggot squads like Azov batallion, which are more effective, but they ultimately act cancerous even to Ukraine. Ukraine actually fears a coup from them.
Cooper Scott
See
They actively lie to their own soldiers, telling them they're going to get the wounded and abandoning them in the meat grinder to get torn to pieces by angry militias. I'm starting to think the only purpose of this war is to kill as many Ukranians as possible, they lost so many men at the first stages of the war they had to soften conscription requirements to make up for their losses.
Jose Evans
Again you've given no sources or further reading on your claims.
John Sanchez
Then it seems Ukraine is the next Syria, Libya or Iraq. If it truly was valuable, NATO and friends would have intervened already. So this
This is a prime example to why you don't make meme countries without going all in with ethnic cleansing.
Oliver Gomez
Russians have always been the cuntiest of slavs always quick to kill men that called them friend and steal land. MUH MEME country. Russia is a fake country kiev rus started in kiev.
Evan Long
I was referring to the Ukranian government, you fucking retards. Watch the fucking video.
Jacob Robinson
Jew harder Mordecai.
Josiah Torres
No your weren't I read the post. HURR DURR AZOV BAD, RUSSIA STRONG. you are gigantic faggots hitler was right the Russians are a subhuman slave race, if only they were exterminated
Brody Ramirez
Yes, same US military advisers they had in China, Cuba, South Vietnam, Georgia, Iraq…
Seeing a pattern there?
Russia has always been good at proxy wars and the US is terrible at it.
Then you add the fact that ukraine is mostly a bunch of conscripts that don't want to be there VS a volunteer force with ranks peppered of veterans (be it older afghan war veterans or the countless wars of the fall of the USSR), both Ukrainians and Russians.
Add the fact that the Russian army is providing them with top grade EW intel (something Russia is also way better at than the US) and probably coordinating them.
And you end up with a small rebel forces that is somehow of way better quality than the one of the country that inherited 4 entire MILITARY DISTRICTS worth of gear from the Soviet Union (and the good ones at that, with all the good tanks for example).
That's something that nobody understand to get the retardation for the situation, Ukraine inherited nearly as much military gear as Russia did in 1991, and they got all the stuff meant for the 1st line (nearly all the T-80's notably)…
Josiah Evans
Holy shit your shilling is awful.
Camden Gomez
Yeah and who setup the Ukrainian government?
The US was successful in keeping communism out of South America though. You never hear much about successful proxy missions. I think if you were to make a mathematical equation of proxy wars, physical distance to the location you're fighting in would be a very important variable. In order to weaken Russia's advantage in this respect, you'd have to divide their attention on multiple fronts, I doubt that Syria and Ukraine going off at the same time isn't a coincidence.
Nicholas Wright
So Ukraine has 20+ year old military equipment and an army that had little combat experience until recently. Meanwhile, the 'separatists' were really Russian soldiers from Moscow. Inexperienced defense forces with outdated equipment verses battle hardened military veterans with the latest gear. That certainly explains their loses.
Luis Nelson
Which means that Ukraine is expendable and is a feint in order to move Russian resources away from a more important front.
I still haven't seen any proofs, but if there was overt Russian support in Ukraine, and if Ukraine was of value as other places are, then we would be experiencing the Bad Company's video game storyline right now.
Leo Price
US embassy? CIA? Kikes? What's your point?
Samuel Wright
That blaming it on the puppet Ukrainian government is short sighted.
Michael Walker
Not really, since the Ukrainian government is composed of Jews, Poroshenko being a kike himself. The ones who I don't blame are the (most) of the Ukrainian people who are lied to by their government then forcefully conscripted and sent to kill their fellow whites.
Hunter Sanchez
Meant to quote
Evan Morris
all you faggots
azov isn't bad, we know that but they're being used by kikes, which is why people like novorussia.
While capitalists and zionists order nationalists that think they're helping their nations to ethnically cleanse their own Ukrainian populace is no different then sending them to that meat grinder of an airport.
One can hope that Azov will just become self aware and pull a coup and make Ukraine great again, but it's just not happening.
If Novorussia plows it's way to Kiev and hangs that pigly fuck Poroshenko on camera along with the rest of his kike and American cabinet that's fine by me.
Nathan Sanders
I'm not blaming conscripts with bayonets pointed at the front ranks to inspire morale either. I agree that this seems like another great addition to the D&C freight train. However, I'm saying that the Ukrainian revolution wasn't caused to those Ukrainian Jews entirely, so blaming a front for this is a mistake.
Jacob Torres
What is your point then?
You didn't think before making that post did you?
Aaron Reyes
It appeared that the user I replied to was disagreeing with me, guess not.
Asher Gutierrez
Vice inb4 >Vice did a documentary on Crimea after annexation that pensions rose, services improved and food was more freely available than beforehand
Jace Williams
Holla Forums is absolutely fucking stupid when it comes to these kinds of threads
Russia wants to replace the different and beautiful peoples of Europe with their horde of subhuman Asiatic mongrels under the banner of "white nationalism". They tried it with the Finns, and now they're trying with the Ukrainians. Soon they'll make their move on the Baltics.
Sebastian James
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Jason Watson
Shill harder, jewboy. All those "different peoples" are ethnic Russians in denial anyway.
Joshua Wilson
I don't get it. What's the fucking point of continuing offensive operations at this point when pretty much all the other offensive operations before this point has not been particularly succesful? Shit's like WW1 all over again due to advancements in anti-tank weaponry. I mean yes, I understand that arms dealers are laughing their way into banks because of this, but still.
Wyatt Murphy
Nigger thats a Sling.
I don't care about which side you are on, but go see a eye doctor.
Jace Taylor
Except that it wasnt 1 on 1, was it, vatnik? And the subhumans STILL havent recovered. Germans only need a red pill and they can go back to Reich mode immediately. Slavic subhumans are still either vatnik scum or pro EU leeches, despite the redpills, and there is no sign of recovery.
John Barnes
Top kek Ivan. Can you stop being a retarded mongol for once?
Christian Wood
And mongol kingdoms dont? Are you high today, vatnik? Are you saying races and cultures dont matter? And are you saying slavs dont believe in survival of the fittest?
Hey kid, Western "serfdom" has mostly been secular. It is the slavic subhumans who had serfdom for the longest time AND werent secular.
Slav=retarded subhuman.
John Lewis
Divert Rus attention away from Syria with a credible perimeter breach.
Jackson Moore
Yes like the other user said, this sounds like and is Russian delusion.
Germany's Army may be in a shitty, state, but if one thing in Germany is well funded and running, its their Anti-Terrorism and Public Disturbance Forces in the Police. There would be no "overkill response", they would be simply killed German SWAT, before they can start the second part of their plan. If they would be stupid enough to continue with the second part, they will learn that while some German military bases are undermanned, they are not undefended as Germany pays several International Security Companies, to defend bases that have not enough personnel to do it themselves.
When the Berlin Wall fell, Germany became the most important Trading Partner for the whole of Eastern Europe, simple for the fact, that German back then was still more common as a second language than English. Slavs that wanted Western Technology and a Western Level of Living went to Germany in mass to buy their shit.
Today Germany is Russias most important Trading Partner both for import and export, together with China and the Netherlands, meanwhile Russia isn't even in the top 10 of Germany's most important Trading Partners.
Germany buys most of the raw material the Russian Economy produces and in return exports the technology that Russia needs to be able to exploit the resources of its land. In other words Germany economic relationship with Russia, is similar with Chinas new economic relationship with Africa. They build shit and export technology to Africa, in return they get all the oil, minerals, raw earth and all the other valuable shit from Africa.
Anthony Butler
If only whipped dindu and spic drug dealers like that in America.
Sebastian Barnes
Aren't they almost exactly the same thing, like as close as Spanish and Portuguese or Dutch and German? Just from google translate, tons of the words are the same or very close cognates.
Jeremiah Gutierrez
Daily reminder that Ukraine's Prime Minister is literally a practicing Jew
I think he started calling it that after blasting nasheeds at Ukrainians who promptly surrendered out of fears of being beheaded.
Ukrainians have a fear of Muslims for some reason.
Christopher Price
maybe you should read slower next time user, I made my statement.
Azov are simply retarded slavs, but they're nationalist. But they're being led by kikes and are stupid enough to do so, as I said.
Parker Ward
I saw something about Motorola having shipped off to Syria to fight for Assad, but I don't remember the source.
Liam Reed
Bump
Xavier Martinez
Thank you based Serbia, saviour of Europa.
Landon Parker
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Christian Foster
Poland is nothing less than 99% white. What is the ratio in your country, cuckfag?
The next one will be in reverse. And we'll build proper ovens, like a civilized nation.
Lucas Flores
why do all these Ukraine soldiers look like Muslims?
I thought Ukraine was white.
Levi Collins
To add to this user's post.
The guy in this 40min talk says a bit about these guys and claims a.) He's the first one to translate their deceleration in independence into English and b.) they're essentially National Socialists. youtube.com/watch?v=W-AAAHZBZmk
Levi Lewis
Looks like jews are sending whites kill other whites again.