Someone Is Learning How to Take Down the Internet

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Is Holla Forums ready for cyber-world-war? Do you have a cozy cjdns meshnet ready to deploy?

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I'm counting on BATMAN to come to the rescue

We could meet in cafes and share files the old-fashioned way.

the fuck is wrong with you?

Time to revive the old networks.

Who cares? HDD storage space has been growing exponentially. Just start hoarding data if you haven't been doing so already. Download all the movies, images, and gaemes

Can cjdns even defend against that? Is there anything you can do if the backbone routers decide they want to route your packets differently or start dropping them all together? The only way around something like this that I can see is to move to an entirely different infrastructure such as wireless mesh networks, phone lines, or both.

But didn't they just fend off a military coup? They are too preoccupied at the moment to deal with the internet going down I'm afraid

This isn't really feasible unless you have insiders.

I decided to stop worrying and learn how to packet radio. Getting my HAM license soon.

Download games where you call BBS.
Download all gopherspace, so you have something to browse. Mailing lists too, and Usenet!
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uhhhhh i fucked up the pic

I've read about cjdns before and it just sounds like another Tor/I2P. What exactly does it bring to the table that Tor/I2P don't? Saying its a mesh network is meaningless when it's entirely dependent on existing infrastructure and has to be tunneled over regular IP, that's like bragging about making an ultra efficient electric car with a range that can compete with gas vehicles when it "drives" by sitting on a trailer being towed by another vehicle.

I>nternet insiders

People within ISPs and those who have access to the infrastructure.

In my mind I have, the reality is that I'm fucked if the happening happens.


Not to sound negative or anything, but how fill FidoNet save me from the happening? My phone line runs over fiber, the same as internet and TV, so if an attacker takes out my ISP, radio, meshnets, and satellite are the only way I can connect. The only ways that appears realistic.

You use VOIP then? I thought regular telephone service is circuit switched as opposed to packet switched and uses different equipment.

4 10tb drives

get a real phone line

thank god i've been searching for ages for a bbs that I can connect to at 300 baud

regular telephone service goes over the internet and has for a long-ass time

kek

Why would they shove that in IP backbone router instead of separate circuits? Besides the added downtime risk, it further puts load on individual router.

I think he's talking about the Better Approach To Mobile Adhoc Networking protocol.

you know how to perfect that?
you fucking use CRISPR to genetically build shit that sends LiFi signals....

you're fucking welcome

fucking dumbasses.

It wouldn't technically be "taking down the Internet" but it would make it unusable.

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I don't suppose there are any guides on this sort of thing, are there? I'd love to fiddle around with creating a local shitposting network some time.

You've got it backwards. The Internet was built over telephone circuits. Virtually all of the carrier-grade backhaul up through the past decade or so was built around carrying phone calls via a circuit switched network. ISPs and large enterprises merely rented dedicated bundles of circuits for high-speed point-to-point connectivity. Routers route packets down different bundles of phone circuits dependent on the destination. What's changing is that, due to VoIP, there's no longer a need to design the backbone as a circuit-switched network, so all the infrastructure, including telephones, is being reconfigured for pure packet-switching.

I'm setting up my packet radio system. It's actually really cheap.

Yes, laowai, yes, someone certainly is, hehehe...

I'm trying to get a packet-radio based text board up and running

Tell us moar pl0x

I'm getting into packet radio too, might join MARS. I'm getting my HAM license now, but I was a radio operator in the military, so I've got some experience with radios.

If the major infrastructure goes down will tor/i2p still work?

time to download an enormous amount of anime and porn onto my external hard drive

If DNS goes down Tor will likely have problems as the node listings show most of the nodes using domains and only some using only IP addresses. I2P might be more resistant as it uses everyone as a node and you aren't going to be using centralized domain names for that. I don't know how either get their list of nodes that they can connect to though.

If you're talking about a large attack on the internet backbone/core routers then everything that needs to go through the areas being attacked is likely completely fucked.

I welcome it.