ITT we discuss leftist politics

Camden Barnes
Camden Barnes

ITT we discuss leftist politics

Logan Williams
Logan Williams

The biggest bunch of shit ever devised by the jew

Aaron Allen
Aaron Allen

Communism a shit
The only way to truly close the power gap is to cut the Jew out of existence.

Ryder Clark
Ryder Clark

So being a wageslave is something not devised by the jew?

Easton Nguyen
Easton Nguyen

What will cutting jews out of the equation do with all the laws on the books and useless politicians in the senates?

Colton Jones
Colton Jones

Of course it is. But communism is even worse.

Prosperity is achieved through perseverance and reverence for one's fellow man.

i dunno, you tell me

Grayson Hernandez
Grayson Hernandez

would you rather work for free?

useless politicians in the senates
you answered your own question

Samuel Foster
Samuel Foster

implying that those three things aren't inextricably connected
Three birds with one stone, Moishe.

Justin Flores
Justin Flores

it will remove outsider money and influence from the equation. it will also remove the degeneracy promoted by them.
useless politicians in the senates
are removed

Parker Russell
Parker Russell

would you rather work for free?
or be a wageslave
those arent the only two options

so youll just kill everyone who you dont like
how will you organize this to put it into action?

Eli White
Eli White

Of course it is. But communism is even worse.
Like USSR and maoist china? Of course.
Leftism is far more than that and every ideology can be found to have some bad results at some times and places

Prosperity is achieved through perseverance and reverence for one's fellow man.
That's a good philosophy but what real world actions do you suggest?

Jeremiah Wright
Jeremiah Wright

Leftism is far more than that
I'll grant you that. What is the definition of leftism that you're running on, just so we're on the same page in this discussion.

That's a good philosophy but what real world actions do you suggest?
Government controlled media/educational system. Indoctrinate the public to love their country, believe it to be the best, and to ensure it stays that way. Every student should know how to lead, when to follow, and be provided skills which have utility for the nation at large.
Industry should be nationalized. But it should be nationalized non-bureaucratically. Find the best and brightest to run their given industry with relative impunity, answering only to the best and brightest of them all, installed as dictator.

The best form of governance is a dictatorship run by a wise man. The problem, of course is in selecting him. It should most certainly not be done democratically, politicians are good at one thing and that is talking. Designing a good meritocracy is a challenge of its own, however.

Nolan Flores
Nolan Flores

I'll grant you that. What is the definition of leftism that you're running on, just so we're on the same page in this discussion.

Freedom from authoritarians.

Government controlled media/educational system. Indoctrinate the public to love their country, believe it to be the best, and to ensure it stays that way. Every student should know how to lead, when to follow, and be provided skills which have utility for the nation at large.
That doesn't sound like reasonable education. Blindly hating is not different than blindly loving.

Industry should be nationalized. But it should be nationalized non-bureaucratically. Find the best and brightest to run their given industry with relative impunity, answering only to the best and brightest of them all, installed as dictator.
So who decides whos the best?

The best form of governance is a dictatorship run by a wise man.
And when he dies the worst form of government comes in either a bureaucracy or a dictatorship run by a weak fool or an arrogant fool.

The problem, of course is in selecting him. It should most certainly not be done democratically, politicians are good at one thing and that is talking. Designing a good meritocracy is a challenge of its own, however.
Rather perhaps let each man lead his own life.

Lucas Hernandez
Lucas Hernandez

Freedom from authoritarians.
ok, gotcha.
So who decides whos the best?
Ideally, they would be raised from birth for the job. Effort should be made to better understand what leads to aptitude in a given field (both in terms of nature and nurture). Those with the best chances of having a great ability would be selected by geneticists and raised by a government body entrusted to bring the best out of them. As our understanding of these factors improve, so will our government.

Rather perhaps let each man lead his own life.
If what you do truly has no impact on others, I'm all for it. But very few things fit that criteria. Almost everything you do has some impact on others, whether it is to toxify the minds of the youth or just making life marginally less enjoyable.

Lincoln Anderson
Lincoln Anderson

Blindly hating is not different than blindly loving.
Elaborate?

Eli Watson
Eli Watson

raised by a government body entrusted to bring the best out of them.
nope nope nope

Jeremiah Gray
Jeremiah Gray

It's a handful of children, not every kid is going to have to go through that shit. Just the few who are going to be forced to lead the country/industries.

Parker Butler
Parker Butler

government is a cancer

Benjamin Bailey
Benjamin Bailey

Government is what provides order to people's lives. We humans are made for organization, effective communication was, in fact, one of the greatest leaps forward evolutionarily.

In your anarchist utopia, groups would still form. The hierarchies soon follow. When that happens, you better hope LE NOBLE SAVAGE MAYMAY has some truth to it or you're gonna get assraped by a gang of thugs who want to take your shit and enslave your family.

Daniel Thompson
Daniel Thompson

Government is what provides order to people's lives.
False claim. The propaganda tells you this, but is it so? Studying the facts I've made my conclusions.

We humans are made for organization, effective communication was, in fact, one of the greatest leaps forward evolutionarily.
Without governments, fancy that.

In your anarchist utopia,
There is no utopia nor can utopia exist.

groups would still form. The hierarchies soon follow.
Voluntary hierarchies, such as learning skills in a workplace, delegating tasks to protecting and maintaining a neighborhood, or order within the family unit - are not the same as government imposed hierarchies. These get imposed with coercion and have a clear line to mortal force being applied for disobedience. That is not voluntary.

When that happens, you better hope LE NOBLE SAVAGE MAYMAY has some truth to it or you're gonna get assraped by a gang of thugs who want to take your shit and enslave your family.
I have my guns.

Hunter Hughes
Hunter Hughes

Studying the facts I've made my conclusions.
Throw some facts at me then.

Without governments, fancy that.
With greater communication came greater ability to organize. Government is a RESULT of this.

There is no utopia nor can utopia exist.
At least we're on the same page there.

Voluntary hierarchies, such as learning skills in a workplace, delegating tasks to protecting and maintaining a neighborhood, or order within the family unit - are not the same as government imposed hierarchies. These get imposed with coercion and have a clear line to mortal force being applied for disobedience. That is not voluntary.
Coercion is the natural result of hierarchy. If you're not there to follow the cause why are you there at all? And if they kick you out, there goes your livelihood.

I have my guns.
Yes, because those will be very helpful for you while you're asleep.

Robert Nelson
Robert Nelson

All these profit-seeking people in X industry fucked us over!
Let's give government more control over this industry then! No one in the government is profit-seeking you know.

Leftism in a nutshell

Noah Jenkins
Noah Jenkins

What do you mean by "if what you do truly has no impact on others" ?
Most of your life has no impact on others unless you are referring to some pseudoscience of economy where what you buy changes the world arnd you.

Isaac Morgan
Isaac Morgan

government is shit, leftism is about freedom from the state

Anthony Gray
Anthony Gray

Oh sure, in its ideal version. In reality, every practical example of it stops at "Vanguard party gains control of government".

Gabriel Cook
Gabriel Cook

Allow me to summarize leftist politics."I'm a loser so give me free shit waaa"

Parker Morales
Parker Morales

How about this thought process?

Jeremiah Murphy
Jeremiah Murphy

Name something that doesn't affect anyone else then.

David Reyes
David Reyes

what do you mean "stops at"

Alexander Hill
Alexander Hill

id like the opposite of that
taxation is slavery

Robert Parker
Robert Parker

what i do inside my house

Luis Nelson
Luis Nelson

also what do you mean "affect" anyone
its no business of someone else what i wear provided that i dont expose them to pornography

Asher Price
Asher Price

I hate that everyone thiks that liberals are leftists

Camden Young
Camden Young

what are they

Xavier Brooks
Xavier Brooks

Leftism is slow suicide.

David Robinson
David Robinson

how?

John Martinez
John Martinez

what i do inside my house
So you doing drugs in your house has no affect on your family?

its no business of someone else what i wear provided that i dont expose them to pornography
pornography is a pretty broad term.dressing like a whore is gonna influence the public view on sex.

also what do you mean "affect" anyone
if events that happen to them are in any way changed by your actions, you are affecting them.

Jaxson Smith
Jaxson Smith

So you doing drugs in your house has no affect on your family?
non sequitur

Caleb Clark
Caleb Clark

if events that happen to them are in any way changed by your actions, you are affecting them.
so this follows that any time sjws get their feelers hurt you should be restricted from doing so

Josiah James
Josiah James

Tuition is high so lets go full khmer rouge
No wonder you're a laughing stocc.

William Nguyen
William Nguyen

non sequitur
how is that a non sequitur?
You asked if you doing shit in your house affects anyone, i gave you an example.

Wrong. It's not inherently bad to affect other people. Affecting other people is what puts it on the table to be restricted though.

Xavier Nguyen
Xavier Nguyen

Commies are retarded. Go to North Korea if you like it so much

Jayden Perry
Jayden Perry

Don't forget:
civilians shouldn't own guns!
all cops are evil racists and the government is oppresive!
Also:
down with whitewashing!
but its OK if the entire cast of Hamilton are niggers

Nolan Gomez
Nolan Gomez

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I bet archetype legs way shorter.

Xavier Green
Xavier Green

pls email [email protected] if you're a cat named sakamoto and want a cute furret to licc your paws
rollin - g herbo

Hudson Green
Hudson Green

pls email [email protected] if you're a cat named sakamoto and want a cute furret to licc your paws
If you just fucced someones dirty ass in the woods/toilet/etc raw and have a muddy cocc, but want to continue with someone else in the same cruising session, have hin succ your dicc before you leave until the next guy won't be able to taste what you were doing before you got with him.

Justin Wilson
Justin Wilson

JEJ

Nathaniel Cook
Nathaniel Cook

hahaha well memed, Nojus

Ethan Long
Ethan Long

Self bomp

Nathan Cruz
Nathan Cruz

Still curious about this. Seems like an af system would correct for it.

Joshua Long
Joshua Long

I agree with those beatles. They look amazing seing how simple they are!

Logan Anderson
Logan Anderson

Or photobash

Luke Martin
Luke Martin

Wrong. It's not inherently bad to affect other people. Affecting other people is what puts it on the table to be restricted though.
i reject your attempt to restrict any of it
now bacc off

Camden James
Camden James

so you're happy with other people having free reign to affect you?

Christopher Ward
Christopher Ward

pls respect my voluntary hierarchy
no I don't have to respect your voluntary anarchy

remember ancaps are scum

Blake Sanders
Blake Sanders

You could make a similar chart with right wing.

Both sides are dumb. Everyone is dumb but me.

Chase Price
Chase Price

yeah mostly cause im not a bitch
you scared of strong opinions?

Caleb Gomez
Caleb Gomez

Nietzsche is a rightwinger.

Sebastian Perez
Sebastian Perez

You could make a similar chart with right wing.
go ahead then. I'll wait

Caleb James
Caleb James

jews are evil and degenerate
jews control the world
white race is superior and supreme
jews control it
nigs and spics bully it
gooks and indians are benefitting economically by selling to it

Andrew Bailey
Andrew Bailey

Double think
related to neutrality

Easton Reyes
Easton Reyes

2

Connor Evans
Connor Evans

b-but I don't want to respect your property rights
respecting rights should be voluntary!

Is this your argument

Ryan Cruz
Ryan Cruz

ITT we discuss leftist politics

I thought this forum had an age restriction?

Leftist politics is for tweenagers.

Jordan Ortiz
Jordan Ortiz

go on

Mason Nelson
Mason Nelson

Liberal =/= leftist

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