Tradeskills

I've worked a trade (flooring, general renovation) for some 5 years. Worked in some really high class custom homes worth a million+.

Trade work tends to be very seasonal in my experience but I guess it depends which trade. Summer and spring are financially the best seasons while work is hard to find during the winter so you'll want to be sure not to spend too much during the high times.

At first I didn't like it. In fact I downright hated it. I'm out of work now with a bad back but sometimes I feel like being able to go back to it since, while hard work, it was technically rewarding. I just wasn't well suited for it physically (born pretty sickly) and might have to pick up another, easier one, if anything. Take care of your health and always make that a priority. I mention that because tradesmen get overconfident in their abilities as they get more experienced and that can lead to an accident. I've seen it happen more than once and you really don't want to cut your finger while working a table saw or something.

The people I've worked with and around on construction sites were decent fellows. Can't really complain. Almost entirely white men as well.

i did electrical and construction for about 8 years while figuring out what i wanted to do with myself, it was great, real men. now i do laboratory work, many more faggots pussies and dumb fucking bitches.

but it is low impact and i can be a slave for 30 years and come out un-broken unlike in construction.

i recommend all men do construction for at least 5 years.

I got into electronics repair when there was a repair shop in every town. Board level diagnosis and repair is a dying skillset. Industry in general needs it for warranty repair and certain niche industries still need technicians with that level of expertise, but it is a dying trade set. I haven't done any work with tube type equipment for consumers since 1980s when I did musical instrument repair (keyboards, organs & amps) did a bit more tube stuff in broadcast work in the 90s but even that is almost gone.

I mostly work on industrial electronics like PLC's. A company could still make a profit if they trash your broken power supply and just send you a new one for a warranty. That's what apple does.

Went to learn masonry in highschool, but that was right when the economic crisis started and construction work went down the shitter, so I decided to quit and do something else instead, thinking that I'd rather stay in school than getting out straight into unemployment.

Now I kind of wish I hadn't because at least I would have had some useful skills. Right now I have none..
I wonder if I should go back to learn a trade now.

Did landscaping since I was a young lad. Yes, it's fraught with beaners, but that entirely depends on where and who you work for. It's one of the least intellectually taxing trades out there, but it's physically demanding.

However, it's an easy trade to build a business out of (snow removal is a huge plus if you live in such areas). Also it's a great job for drones and active thinkers/the enlightened. Being out in the sun, smelling fresh greenery while musing over novels, ideas, and the overwhelming beauty of the cosmic void is a top-notch pleasure.

I like to call it a Taoist's trade – that's if you're not working like a slave with illegals berating you in their taco tongue.

I was going to do trade stuff but got discouraged and just stayed a neet.

Heh, I can tell you're a journeyman by the scraps left ;)

This. Fuck the gym, move shit.

If you work as a tradesman do you have to constantly travel across the country? In burgerland companies usually pay for a one way meaning you have to pay on your way back.

I wish i'd got into a trade, i've never actually done many physically demanding jobs and the ones I did do weren't exactly challenging. Is it too late to get into a proper trader at 26?

Depends on what you do and who you work for.

welding by itself is a trade for dumb people, unless you become an engineer for rigging automated industrial welding applications

hand welding is just higher paying labor positions where you sit in a cubical 8 hours a day and join pieces

otherwise hand welding is just another tool on the shelf for professionals who make their money by fabricating designs

No

Machine Maintenance is a cool trade. You learn electrical, electronics, machining, welding, rigging and all sorts of shit to fix machines and keep them running.

Enjoy getting replaced within 10 to 20 years by machines

Have you ever bothered to look up welding? You'd probably be one of those idiots who don't shield their eyes and wear proper clothing on their first go.

How would a machine replace a plumber?

Trades aren't your Starbucks job, buddy. We've had vending machines and the assembly line for decades now but good luck having an entire house pop out of one and self-assemble.

I work Asbestos Abatement/Mold Remediation/Disaster response.
Now, there will always be drama with any job and most construction companies have a few women who either flag or work in the office but I cannot say it enough, without working construction, I would not be the man I am today. I have also worked on road construction/earthworks, where I got to drive some heavy equipment, I also worked concrete, which is way more complicated than you can believe on top of being physically hard as shit. I used to be a fat NEET and I still did it. I'm a lead hand at my company now and they kiss my ass to keep me around.

Any anons reading this, its easy to start. Go be a laborer, do bitch work, but it doesn't mean you are a bitch, you are just doing the work that needs to be done so the journeyman, supervisor, PM can do their jobs.

Just shut up, never whine and bitch, work hard and ask questions relevant to the job! This will show dedication and initiative, companies love that shit.

Riiiight faggot, because robots can hang drywall, put up trusses or shingle a roof not only that, but do those things perfectly to code. Do you even know that there is a standard all jobs from a garage to a skyscraper have to strictly follow and there are inspectors and consultants who's whole job is to go from site to site and do just that? No, you don't, its because you are a neet. Continue not to breed.

How does these machines produce, maintaine and repair themselves?

Who do you think fixes those machines ? Because it sure as fuck is not other machines.

Do you get shit on every day?

I'd rather keep doing my low wage shit job. If I had to spend time around blue collar workers it would end in violence. They're manchildren of the worst kind in my experience.

Like when one cucked you? That experience?
Have fun going nowhere in life, fag, and I bet any violence from you would involve the HR department. Low wage faggots think they can take on an experienced tradesman? This isn't your animes, you'd get destroyed. You make me laugh and inflate my pride at being in the trades.

You clearly never had to deal with college idiots who studies humanities, communications or arts. Those are the ones who are truly unbearable.

I've never been cucked, so maybe you're just projecting.

What did I just say:
I never pretended I'm going anywhere.

Are you projecting again?

By this reasoning lawyers are better fighters than boxers or special forces soldiers because they earn more money. Are you stupid?

Was a cable guy. A forestry guy. A security guy. Was a Truck Driver recently, and I agree. I just wish I could stand low wage jobs. These people are 90% subhumans. And yet, went to good colleges and they were all Marxist cult members.
Damned if you do, damned if you dont.

Truck driving is horrible by the way. You are a machine and they kick you like one so you can NEVER sleep. Computers and cell phones, it's like the boss is sitting next to your cubical 24hrs a day. Then there is the extreme danger of it.

I have two degrees, and thinking about getting a basic computer tech cert.

I don't know what to do.

I am in HVAC, it is great. Currently, the industry does not have a proper Journeyman-Master licensing/title system, so after three-years experience, you can find a job where you will make $40K-$50K fairly easy. After 5-8 years, that will turn into 65K+, especially if you focus on commercial HVAC.

Im a diesel mechanic. For a while i bounced from shit job to shit job. Now im making good money, have a wife that works and kid. Pretty comfy life and no where to go but up if i keep motivated.

Biggest problem i find is that trying to get into any trad can be kinda hard. If you have the skills than you can do it, but most companies want 3-5 years of experience before they even look at you. I got kinda lucky in how i got in. I walked in to the manager and asked for an application, he gave me an interview right on the spot and i got the job. But thats kind of how you have to approach trade jobs. If they have an online application, dont fill it out. Go to the brick and mortar building and ask to see the shop forman or service manager and ask for the application. Most likely they will have time to talk to you because, lets face it ,shop formans only sit on there ass all day. Give a firm handshake and dont be a bitch. And never take shit, even if you are just starting out. If they treat you like shit, know that now your "in", 6 other companies will pick you up in a heartbeat. Thats the facts.

I mean that experienced tradesman are far more physically strong then you will ever be.

Ah I apologize, you haven't been cucked, it's impossible to be cucked if you have never had female contact in your life, fag. Poor you, really are the pride of the white race if you are so resigned to your fate, you waste.

Tell me something I didn't already know.

welding is shit tier job.
one year and you will have chronic back pain, and once your apprentice contract expires you will be replaced by some cheap 3rd worlder

Ah ffs. Meant for

Being a tradesman doesn't necessarily make anyone strong, and you don't know anything about me.

By the way you're completely confirming what I said in my first post: blue collar workers are manchildren.

This is a good idea. I would start with A+, its really easy and enough to get a foot in the door with entry level tech support ($12-15/hr) in most places. I only have an Associates in CIS, a couple of certs (CCNA and A+), and a year of experience at a help desk and I am now a network technician making $52k while a lot of my friends who got Bachelors degrees in CS are stuck in shitty entry level programming jobs (30-40k) with 5 figures of debt because they spent 4 years to barely learn how to code fizzbuzz and tic tac toe. I have been learning on my own time with pentesting labs and kali linux and once I get OSCP certified I should be able to get into Network Security which will be a substantial salary bump and more enjoyable work.

I bet you're the coworker that the female employees of the tea shop you work at avoid like the plague.

I didn't say anything about being a special snowflake, I just said you don't know anything about me.

And you are once again proving my point.

I'm in an apprenticeship to be a gardener, landscaper etc… Well paid, work in the sun, build my muscles, don't declare.

It's awesome.

One last round of questions faggot.

Who built the home your parents pay for?
Who built the roads you drive one?
When something breaks in your car or home, who do you call? One of your fellow wage slaves?
No, you call a professional. A real man.
Those people you call "manchildren" built everything around you that you take for granted. I can tell just by your assertions that you are a millennial. You have no appreciation for the actual men around you that make your little worthless life so easy.

You aren't even a manchild, you aren't even a child. You are less than human. You are lower than a nigger, at least a nigger can pick cotton.

just fuck my back up fam

You are a manchild and it's because of cretins like you that I have no interest in doing blue collar work.

At least you (presumably) get paid well. I worked in warehousing during my youth, destroying my back in the process; all for a pittance.

What do you guys think about unions?

I am so glad you will never breed. Thank fuck, at least you got something right once in your life. I can sleep well on that fact.

This. Faggot is just salty about tradesmen because he couldn't handle the bantz.

24 buckaroos/hour

You faggots are so mad.

ogres are like onions

Because your own "arguments" were so fucking brilliant.

You are a manchild.

They have seniority layer

Stay mad, no children chan.

You are a manchild.

This is getting pathetic. Grow up.

Just keep throwing that insult around till it sticks hm?
I bet you voted for Bernie.

This coming from a manchild.

It's less of an insult and more of a factual statement.

Nice derailing faggots

The only thing I can picture now is the disappointment in your parents faces. The way you always angrily look away when they discuss when you are going to settle down, get a real job, make something of yourself. They believed in you, they want you to be happy, and you keep letting them down.

You make me and the entire white race sad, user. You could be so much better. You don't even need to go into the trades (not like you could handle it anyway), but come on, do it for the future of white children.

Losers resign themselves to obscurity. You are better than that user.

Maybe I'm wrong and your parents are complete shit and thats why you ended up the way you did.

This is my final sentiment as I realize I am wasting my time with you, like your family did.

I always like a good discussion of trades here on Holla Forums, its why I keep bumping this thread.

So hey,

I agree.

Are there any fellow Canadian construction workers here that have been working up in Fort Mac? Whats the situation up there?

You are a manchild and every new post you make just makes that more and more clear.

same guy on a different device

By being able to do the same thing a plumber can. They may not be able to entirely replace a plumber but I am almost certain there are things plumbers do that machines can do.

vending machines are not representative of technological developments in the field of computing and robotics, nigger. Robot technology is in its infancy and it will get much better with time, as all technology does.

No need to get so triggered, m8. Maybe they can't do it RIGHT NOW, but soon we will have much more complex and powerful machines that

they would fix themselves. The machines that are coming are much more capable and useful than what we have now

Trades have always belonged to the white man. And everyone I've met is pretty base, and I haven't met one sjw, cuck, or liberal tbh.

I'm in the middle of welding school myself, and I'll tell you a bit about my experience, OP. It's basically a full time job without pay (doing 8 hours a day all week welding in my program), but it is fun if you enjoy the solitude of the work and like a challenge. Don't think you're going to go in their walking dimes and making weld porn without busting your ass off.

What does the program you will be going into cover? Oh, and make sure the place you're going into isn't shit, because a lot of them are - I say this because they advertised…

Also, people, why does no one use /weld/?

I'm going to a tech school this fall to learn plumbing. Can anyone give me general advise about becoming and being a plumber?

Do you have an apprenticeship? In regards to trades like plumbing and electric, it does not make sense to enter trade school before landing an apprenticeship. Most companies, as well as independent master plumbers, will pay for or at least heavily-subsidize your schooling while you apprentice.

I'm a Civil Engineer, oversee construction projects on site, coordinate with the various teams. Its significantly better than the guys who did electrical engineering or software who are stuck in air conditioned offices in the city rather than a cabin or on site.

Trades are good lad, keep in mind you can get training for the trades in most militaries, half the foreman are ex NCOs.

What this user said, are you just trying to make yourself more employable? If you look, maybe you could find a larger plumbing company that would hire you as a laborer.

Now I'm not a plumber, nor do I know your experience, but school is secondary, knowing people and getting your name out there and making connections is first.

again I don't know if you have worked in trades before, apologies if I sound like captain obvious

No, my general plan was to get the education then work for someone, then move on to be a master plumber. I can pay for the trade school, which isn't that much anyways.

user, tell me about your experience with blue collars

Okay, now what if you had someone on the inside who could vouch for you?

Any tool and die makers on? Starting an apprenticeship soon with an hvac materials manufacturer.

Nice work lad, and looks like it was fun as hell to build. I'm a programmer and I spend all day building complex systems, but the things I make are invisible and abstract and I don't like staring at a screen all day. I have half a mind to switch.

Trades in UK are dying, especially the welding and other heavy industry.

Brexit may help to turn that around but it's definitely tough right now.

Shop welders won't earn as much as those who work away from home and have certificates.

Damn, I had forgotten about that. I was planning on one or the other, but I guess why not do both?

I hope you're not a burger, unless fighting for ZOG, serving as cannon fodder for trannies, niggers and women seems like a good idea to you.

Many paths. What are you interested in though? Air Force/Navy normally have the better training for technical things. Though Armies have more "fun" stuff along with them.

is there any kind of trade that's clean? I don't mind the hard, or dirty, work but my allergies fucking kill me before I'm even remotely tired, or the worst ones when I'm able to hold out but then I feel like I have a jackhammer on my head for 3-4 days and can't get a single thing done. sinus pressure is a bitch.

how clean is the job environment?

man, that pressure reducing valve setup makes the one I installed at home look like shit.

Pimping is my trade skill.

I'm not.

I'm thinking of going with the Army right now. Not quite sure, welding seems kinda neat, but I haven't really looked into trades all that much ever since I quit with masonry in high school.

Well if you want the trades with that way of looking at things, I guess you can field test Tampons?

Go for it, and make sure it is a trade school and NOT a community college. You want your aws welding certification out of this, not a fucking degree. (Or whatever your national equivalent is.)

Also, learn pipe welding. Highest pay scale and job availability for the impact on your life.

Oh, and wear a bandana or welders cap, otherwise your shower drain will get clogged with tiny beads of slag that get into your hair.

He said he has severe allergies. How did someone as dumb as you become a civil engineer?

Also got a bit drunk at the weekend and misread it. That kind of banter is also quite common.

If he's allergic to the work then he can't do it and would be better off with office work.

undertaker's apprentice here
i don't really know anything about other trades but being an undertaker is pretty cool as long as you get a job at a decent funeral home
pros:
1. great pay
2. high demand for new workers
3. the work isn't really too hard
4. you get to wear a suit AND do honest work
5. if you stay in the business long enough you could potentially end up owning your own funeral home and end up rich
6. you get to drive a hearse
cons:
1. really long and unpredictable hours (especially if you work in a small town like i do, you can get no work for two weeks or work your ass off every day for a week, completely unpredictably)
2. handling dead bodies grosses a lot of people out, embalming them even more so
3. potentially see gore that Holla Forums has probably desensitized you to
4. the bodies are naked when we get them, and most of them are old people. so naked old people.
5. if you get a job at a shitty funeral home it's really going to suck

Trade skills are the way to go. I work as an accountant at a garage, all of the men there have more than enough money for whatever they want, and don't have any bullshit student loans. They're driving convertibles and shit.

The only reason to go to college is if you're going for something like math (I don't even think STEM is worth it) or a handful of business degrees like accounting. I'm gonna beat the kikes at their own games! Anything else is tantamount to debt slavery.

I'd argue that Engineering at least is worthwhile. Think of it like a guild training you as you work towards being a Master of field of applied science and guiding you towards Chartership. Get that and you're looking at 6 figures salaries by mid to late thirties. Thats in Sterling, not Dollars by the way.

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Why do you need to go to a brick and morter school to be able to put 2+2 on a piece of paper?

Going to college for anything other than getting to use necessary equipment, such as for trades and certain stems, is fucking retarded. Everything else can be done at home by taking your own path at little cost and at a much high proficiency. You think Pythagoras went to fucking college to add numbers? Shakespear? Bill gates? Divinci? socrates?

The only people who go to college for the subjects that you don't need to go to college for are fucking losers and will never amount to anything other than repeating what they've been told. The greats do it all themselves.

So people are either losers or world famous geniuses? There's nothing else?

We won't have machines doing electrical, plumbing, or field welding until we have actual fucking androids with real AI.

To say otherwise shows a fundamental lack of understanding both in automation and trade skills.

First off, thx for posting op.
2nd, nice deucer dubs.
Here's my experience concerning getting into the trades:
I worked shit jobs 'till I was 27; missed the boat for college, though racking up $75-100k in debt for a degree didn't seem like a smart choice anyway. I was working at a hospital for about 4 years, started off in housekeeping, "worked my way up" to distribution. Still only making $14.65/hr. Tired of no advancement possibilities, tired of making taking home $960 ever TWO weeks, tired of being a fucking slug.

A friend's uncle is a teacher at our local carpenter's training center, he said they needed apprentices, starting at $23/hr (now starting at $25/hr just a year and a half later). Apprenticeship is 4-5 years, with journeyman making just over $40/hr. Apprentices advance 2 percent of journeyman wage in pay every 800 work hours and every 80 school hours. That's right, I get sent to school to learn even more. I joined the union in august 2014. I started making $23/hr, and now i'm up to $30/hr. I get to learn a trade, build my country, and have been taught how to be a fucking man by my superiors. I get great benefits, pension, and 401k. If you're looking for a CAREER not a job, then get into a trade union. It is the last bastion of a decent wage jobs that you can jump right into off the streets with no degree of any kind.

I saw an user on here criticizing Holla Forumsacks for going into trade unions instead of getting involved in politics. He went on to say how the trade unions are all filled with marxists and leftists, and while he is right, I would like to say that by more of us NatSoc being in the trade unions, we will one day be taking over, and giving the boot to those cocksuckers. It's time for us to have more representation out there, and the trade unions (which are very powerful) are a great place to start.

Pics related: This is what I get to do:

All of your posts are fucking terrible.
You can stop posting anytime man.

You are retarded. Congratulations.

Hook me up with a job bro

Are you worried about a broken body after 15 years?

I'm going to be honest. I just don't like the snobby cunt liberals who went to get a degree in literature and think they're better than me because they paid 80k to read books at college. And, the point of my post is that the best people in those discipline have never gone to college, so if they(snobbish liberals) were really so smart then why'd they have to go to college to begin with?

The work is pretty physically demanding. But it's not that bad. Being an apprentice, I get worked a lot harder, kind of a way for them to see if I make the cut, the union doesn't want slugs. I've talked to a lot of people in the trades, and most of them are very grateful and feel very fortunate. Work smarter, not harder and your body will last.

Go back to Holla Forums and never come back leddit trash

I'm from Holla Forums and Reddit because someone else is retarded? That just means you're retarded too.

I only ask because I have my own business welding, and I only weld about 4 hours a day and my back kills me at the end of the day. I'm only 26.

However I've started yoga very recently as well as stretching during work, and so far it's taken away my back pain when I sleep.

Oh and I forgot to ask..

Could I find a job being a self-taught welder? I can do stick pretty good and am very proficient at mig. But I have zero schooling.

I probably won't make the $40/hr I make in my own business - but since I only work ~4 hrs a day, I figure why not get a full-time job, and just continue to work the 4 hours.

Dude, you were lucky as shit and I hate you. It's basically impossible to get in unless you know someone (like you did)… hey, bud any job openings for you best user, bud?

Cool pics though, you actually do welding (didn't see any) or just reviting?

top kek man, don't post your face here for christsake. Holla Forums hunters are gonna be after you.

This thread reminded me of this video with Mike Rowe.

Well I got in during a huge hiring wave. Seattle and Bellevue are getting BTFO with work right now. Plus a lof of the workers are retiring soon. If you applied now, you'd most likely be put on a waiting list, but still, you never know. It took me 2 months to get in. I DGAF about my face man, not worried, most ppl in the trades are not only racist, they are OPENNLY racist, especially to the Mexicanos.

Nice beard

He's a good influence. Every user should see this one as well:

Oh and yea, we do welding, not much though, only for structural metal framing. Our trade consists of drywall, metal stud framing and acoustic grid ceiling.

I wouldn't label them severe, my frontal sinuses and nearly shut and causes a fuckload of pain

tell me more. Seriously, I have been contemplating this line of work for 10 years now. My eyes are too sensitive for welding, bum shoulder and neck as well as thin skin on the bridge of my nose from years of injuries that tears.

I make 44K a year with an associates right now, making signs for a federal agency. I do nothing but get bids and outsource my work and listen to audibooks all day. I do about 8 hours of real physical work a month hanging signs, posters and maps.

I am dying inside. I am slowly dying mentally. I stopped drinking 2 years ago, to get drunk. I stopped weed as well.

If I don't do something else soon, I am 5 months away from driving off a cliff with a groundhog in my passenger seat.

Help me.

nah, I learned on the job as an engineer - welding here and there for minor design related work, shit is easy

the long welding work is for the plebs behind the curtain in the cubicals, they get paid to inhale toxic gasses for a living

What do you think of this?
Someone said it pay 90,000 a year

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Ah, ya, I used to be around that area. Business booms when those aircraft carriers come pulling in don't they?

Just because you can use a mig gun to do a lap or tack pieces together doesn't make you a welder. Come talk to me when you're running professional looking vertical stringers with 6 laps, stacking dimes on stainless steel with Tig, and doing pipe.

The feminist Ghostbusters… Because cops wont do SHIT and make 70K a year writing tickets.
Meixcans because all the "real men" didn't hire the next generation of white men
You assume we all have upper-middle class mommies and daddies that supported us like you.
No they dont.
Do you even live in the modern world?

user, better yourself. You've kind of won the game, you get paid to have free time to better yourself. Do something worthwhile, try and develop a business in your office instead of audiobooks, maybe try writing your own books.

It's Shakesbeard you asshole, and why would a pirate go to college?

this
our gravedigger called some dindu a stupid nigger right to his face

Y'all faggots need to learn organic chemistry

the hardest physical labor you have to do is lifting caskets and grave vaults, and you'll always have at least one person helping with the casket, and three with the vaults
if you couldn't even handle that, some people are just full time embalmers.
i wouldn't recommend it because there isn't really any upward mobility and the pay isn't quite as good.

thats incredible

I security tech installations and my boss doesn't give a fuck about racial slurs too. probably a wop thing

There's a huge tech boom. Microsoft, goole, amazon too. Lots of high-rises going up. With it come more people frol other states, so that's more apartment high-rises and hotels.

Undertakers make less than 44k?

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Quite a mea culpa, faggot.

The correct term is woman

google says average salary ranges from 48k to 72k
own a funeral home and you'll make quite a bit more

Overrated as fuck from what I hear (Security+ is supposed to be better), but still useful. Take all of the "average salary for X certification" info with a grain of salt, very few IT people are hired by certification alone but it definitely helps, a combination of experience, education, and certification is ideal for any employer. Correlation =/= causation, its like how philosophy majors make on average 6 figures, which is technically true because 90 percent of philosophy majors are just doing their undergrad for law school and become rich lawyers. Which certifications would be valuable to you depend entirely on your situation and your career objectives. If you are trying to get into cybersecurity I would recommend learning as much as you can about networks and networking so you have a strong background for it you need to understand how networks work before you analyze how they can be exploited, experience as a network technician or administrator is valuable also. Certifications have to be taken into context with your situation, the state of the industry, experience, etc. Are you looking for entry level IT work or do you have some experience or training?

This is the fucking problem
Work for 6.50hr 30hrs a day, 7 days a week, 4 weeks at a time, illegally, for a company making a million dollars every second load you do. NEVER see home. Supervision and bitching from the boss 24hrs a day. Don't have an accident on the most insane highways and weather in the country or you're done and sued. Work for years this way and still get shitty runs because the baby boomer WONT FUCKING RETIRE, and take all the good ones because the bossman thinks they "deserve it" more.

6 years building up tools and certifications just to clear 40K. Better find a mentor. Better live in the right place. And take advantage of them free programs nigga! Unless you already went to college and have debt then you don't get to study anything anymore without thousands up front,
Then be pushed out by random market shifts and the 30 million mexicans doing it because they "work harder" according to the Baby Boomer boss. Better get your parents to help you on this one, Fam. Better be young. You need money to make money and this shit takes TIME.

Again, better be young, learn for 10yrs until you have the tools, truck, experience, not to have to work for shit wages on some housing project next to Pedro. Not a bad gig if you don't get sued or hurt your bake and have the time to dick around for years on Mexican wages. Great if you're 20yrs old.

Cancer… You need apprenticeships. So you need to get in. Live in the right place, like buttfuck Wisconsin. And take advantage of them free programs nigga! Unless you already went to college and have debt then you don't get to study anything anymore without thousands up front,
plus a way to pay your minimalist bills on the side.while studying.

I'm so impressed, Mi Amigo.

100% degenerate SHITHOLE! Lots of pretty trees if you can afford to live in the woods or on the Vancouver border. Terrible people and hippies/rednecks galore if not.

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the only good places in the NW are rural
why the fuck do you have a picture of Seattle on there?
i lived there for 10 years and it's a hyper-SJW infested hellhole on par with places like San Francisco

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I'm just looking at the A+ because it's cheap and easy to get, like you said.
I figured tech was about a combination of things, but I have a friend who has insane dumb-luck telling me it's, "all about certifications and applying… because all they care about is if you can actually do the job, not you're background!!!".
Truth is, I'm not the kind of person who is going to absorb the mathamtics that programming involves. I was just looking into it because I already have a degree, so I know they might hire me for a low level dick who plugs some idiot office worker's modems back in for them.

I fell for the college jew then worked as a pipefitter for 3 years in the union, finally deciding to join the army, where I have been for the past 5 years.

I live about 20 minutes from Seattle

Don't come here. The city has a sodomite mayor and a socialist on the city council, all voted in by the oh so moral citizens that you so desperately want to intermingle with. This glorious Mayor sponsored Senate Bill 2727, which would have ended sales for assault rifles and pistols, and more worryingly, allow police to make warrentless searches of your homes once per year to search for said weapons, and not complying would land you a year in the pokey. Thank god it didn't go through.

All the big businesses are moving away. Drugs and homelessness are everywhere. Police are corrupt and violent. Gangbangers and vibrant youth walk the streets. The namesake of King County was changed from William Rufus King, vice president at the time of the Oregon Territorial Legislation, and was changed to Martin Luther King Jr (Who I doubt even ever had anything to do with Seattle) because, and I'm serious here, muh slavery.

Seeing all of this first hand, I wonder if these Cascadia faggots understand just what the hell they're seeking to displace… You can't live next to Sodom and not become Gomorrah…

I've been thinking of becoming a mechanic of some sort.

How is pipefitting on a daily basis?
Is it fun?

You will get to see a lot of pipes in a lot of different places.

Is it physically demanding compared to other trades?
I've got a bum knee, I can't really walk all over the countryside all day every day.

20 minutes huh? i used to live on the border between bothell and mill creek. you?

It's still whiter and therefore better than most places in the U.S.. Righteous post, though, user.

Auburn; Close enough to get the poz coming in through rail…

Seattle will become part of the Northwest Republic. Whether they like it or not ;^)

I'm going to school for gunsmithing and I work as a welder's assistant. I'm almost 30 and I just figured out that trades are the way to go. Growing up/going to school taught me that you would go to college after highschool and become a scientist or an astronaut or whatever. I don't think there was ever any emphasis on learning a trade or how to work with your hands and make things. I don't think my high school even had woodshop or anything like that.

Better?

How bummed is bum?

For site work as a fitter - Shipyards and construction sites

Pipes can be in very difficult and awkward places. Work in confined space is likely, you will want good kneecaps.

Most heavy lifting will be sorted with cranes and riggers but typically you will be expected to be fit and healthy.

You can be climbing a lot of stairs and ladders.

Shopwork as a welder - Much less walking about and lifting. Welds will be in the most ergonomic of positions

you will want good knee*pads*

He is right about the truck drivers though.

t. dad was one

I can lift loads, I can crouch and crawl and climb.
I just can't walk for miles and miles and miles on end.

Have you had jobs where you're on your feet all day?

A daily grind can really wear you down. Often with construction projects they want a lot of work in a short period of time - expect runs of 4 weeks, 12 hour shifts, without a day off.

Yea, putting up rediron was where the injury came from.
Damn, Yea, that's beyond my endurance. I get sloppy after 6-8 hours.
Shop work it is.

I'm one now.
Fucking kill me.

Are Lot Lizards real?

I've been looking at rail work lately, lads. 20, trying to figure out a job I won't hate for the rest of my life, currently in college finishing up my Associate's

Had an uncle in the Chicago rail union who still knows a few fellas who'll be able to pull some strings for me, ultimate goal'll be to run Rail Traffic Controller work later in life. Anybody in the rails care to offer some advice? Hours - I've heard, basically, you work within 90 minutes of whenever they say you work, regardless of if it's 3AM or not. How's the advancement rates and pay around you for younger workers?

no

The Truck Stops chased out all the fun. Everything is McDonalds, Arbies, Wendys, Popey's chicke, and Denny's if you're lucky. It's like living in hell

don't forget subway :^)

Prostitutes? Where i live they are very real. Underages too, sadly.

Are they toothless drug addicts?

who hurt you user

"Socially" they do drugs like weed, cocaine and sometimes even crack (crack was a big hit among truckers few years ago, they started using it when red bull and caffeine pills stopped working).
Besides the grannies and kids, most have decent teeth.

Scaffolding will make you strong as fuck. Learn proper form for lifting/lugging, save up pay, eat well, sleep well, have an exit plan for 5 years or less.

Its not a long term job but you end up really strong

Any Aussies here?

What is a good trade/cert for a bloke 30 years old who only has experience labouring? I have been scaff labouring for three years but want something with long term prospects.

I'm a tradesman who does work machines literally can no longer do.

Oh, god… If I eat one more god damn Subway. Their pizza was good though. Made me fat

Not him, you didn't even respond to his point. He criticized the social culture of blue collar workers. Your rebuttal dodged the point completely giving examples of how he relies on them, like some nigger saying they built america.

For all the big talk, you argue like a woman. He's wrong to call you just manchildren, there's obviously deep insecurities involved too.

I respect the humility and courage of people that become a tradie rather than ruin higher education that they don't belong in or can afford despite its negative connotations and almost total omission from respectable career path in the US, but you're still generally unsufferable, low IQ burnouts.

Still, I've known a few with this man's attitude and I highly respect them.

They work 14 to 30 hours a day, 7days a week, for months at a time.
You're one of those guys in life that I couldn't help beating the fucking shit out of. Like there would be no way in hell I could stand you for more than a few minutes with all your braggy beta male insecurity
You're demoralized and insecure as fuck. Who broke your ego, betanon? Your children are already turning out to be horrible people because it projects onto them and they're going to be eaten by the Chinese because their father had no character and plebs are always killed off by the Chinese.

Who is paying for it? Did you skip college for 12yrs and just smoke pot or something?

Jesus Christ, that's crazy.
It's a honeypot for CIA who want white terrorist cells in America so they can point the blame and say Islam isn't that bad goy

i'd rather be the worst fucking engineer than the best welder

You don't need a four-year poz degree to handle IT.

Depends where you are and what the rules are there. You'll probably need to get certified for the different welds you can do.

You sure? I know engineers who make jack shit and many welders who are very well off?

mediocre engineers in many fields find themselves unable to get hired after about a decade, when there are more current young people available. then they have a useless degree that makes it harder for them to get hired at the shit jobs they are qualified for because people think they will expect better pay. being mediocre in science or engineering is a death sentence

==Savages.== We need to start using that word more, I've found it works with small success even on University in good company whenever the lesser races sperg out, which there's never a limited supply of.

NEETfag here. How to life? Trade school? College? Innawoods? Suicide?

Puyallup, checking in Love seeing that there's a ton of Holla Forumsacks up here. Met a guy from TRS who lives less than half a mile away. That ginger songwriter guy lives around here, too.

Apologies if posted already, im a huge faggot who didnt read but i'll just say, enjoy having vision problems and resp problems from inhaled fumes. I know a welder who retired early, made lotsa dough annddd now has macular degeneration and several other health probs. YMMV

Yeah, spend a night looking into HAC and you come across some sketchy shit surrounding him. That, and something I've learned in the past couple years is to give little value to the opinions of people who don't take care of their bodies. He's a disgusting, fat slob, therefore his mind is of similar quality. That contributes to his weakness and defeatism beyond CIA paychecks.

Write more songs, faggot.

:^)

Trade school or college.
Find a trade you are interested in or has lots of openings near you and take a short program on it to get some skills. Try to find one with a co-op portion so you can get some actual work experience. If you do well enough you can probably get a job there after you finish up school.

That's what I'm doing now. Two months into my co-op and they've already offered me a job when i'm done school next summer (which i didn't commit to because I think I can get a better one at a different company)

I'm aiming to get a Millwright apprenticeship next summer and picking up some related skills when I can (PLC Programming, Welding, and Wiring mainly). So far I'm on track and it feels good to have a career rolling.

Yes master. Nice dubs.

253 here too mang.

i moved away
i couldn't stand the people anymore

Honestly, just stay that way.

Commercial trailer mechanic here (basically 1/2 a heavy duty journeyman).

I think that every young man benefits from learning a trade. I consider getting into a trade an extremely beneficial experience, although for the most part I don't recommend it as a life-long career.

I have been at it for six or seven years now. I went in as a scrawny emo kid, and the men who taught me what I know, along with the work itself, made me into more of a man that I would have ever been otherwise.

You learn how to endure pain with a straight face. You learn how to work yourself out of any situation. You learn to use your intuition. You learn camaraderie. You get strong. It's pretty much like watered-down civilian army. And if you've got balls between your legs, you will appreciate that.
Nowdays when I look at my old friends who went to university, I can't help but notice how fucking weak they are. I think that these people couldn't last a day on their own. They're soft and pathetic.
Get in a trade now and catch some of the old fellas still kicking who are over-flowing with wisdom and knowledge to share. In 5-10 years it may be too late, as the PC bullshit is making its way even here.

One last note: Trades will usually kill you slowly. Chemicals, back-breaking work, long hours, no to mention the dangers that are ever-present. I would suggest it is ideal to get into a trade, master it, save some dough and after roughly ten years get the fuck out and go live in the country.

Pretty much, yeah. Also a lot of heroin. The government is paying for it. Pell grant mufugga.

By far the best description of trade experience i've ever seen on here. 10/10

This is why i got out of my last job. Not worth it.

good vid

I chose a degree in finance.

Now there are loads of people doing marketing, accounting and economics, but little interest in finance.

Then I did law as a separate degree (not financial law - there's a big difference). Why?
I knew there were regulatory needs in finance not covered by financial law degrees. I've already found massive issues completely ignored that people in my area of finance and law have discovered. We also know the tools they use better.

We now realise we might be the most important people on the planet right now.

Then I will go into computer programming and engineering.

Because nobody else knows why that's the big unexplored area.

If you can program and play the finance sector - you are automatically the NWOs enemy number one.

None of them can into computing.

On top of that I have legal knowledge.

Big nono for Mr Rothschild.

And he'll probably try to find and """stop""" me.
And that's what I want.

Fellow washingtonbros, anyone know what trades are popping near Spokane? This mcjob is shite.

Dying in that no one does it anymore or dying in that no one pursues it anymore?

So much this.

If things really do go belly up.

You will need to live by yourself on your own means.

I'm not sure about the east side. I know the pay scale is lower out there. Your best bet is to contact the Carpenters' Training Center in Kent. Google is for phone #. I'm sure they can direct you to the corresponding local in your area.

why are you so angry? you've been here for hours. just stop posting and get some sleep champ

As far as carpentry trades go. The plumbers' union is local 32, and the electricians' is local 46. Look them up, maybe they can give you info for the locals out there in smokane.

what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into security consulting?
what certs etc might help?
I got my A+ network+ & server+ a decade ago, been doing electronics since ICs became a thing and network and communications infrastructure from token ring to fiber.
I've been a hands on tech for 30+ years and I need to switch to a higher income lower physical labor income situation.
I know the hardware but I'm still learning network architecture and the use of pen testing tools BackTrack toolset

wear a mask, faggot. take something for your weak genes.

I work in a dirty trade, but if you wear gloves, good protective clothing, and a mask/safety goggles/hearing protection when necessary, you should be fine. If not, strongly consider suicide.

It's pretty shit. White men here are wiggers, hipster faggots, or pudgy cucks. White girls are fairly trash and a discouraging amount burn the coal. Too many fucking nogs up here.

dying as in
nobody repairs TVs anymore
if it's broke you buy a new one

and that goes for almost all electronic consumer products. they've been an economic historic first, products that get better and cheaper every year.
so electronic repair ain't the career path it once was

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With your background OSCP would be best, you have to be very good at pentesting to get into security consulting. CISSP is the industry's gold standard cert but it requires 5 years of direct experience in cybersecurity, not just networks, in order to qualify, and it is quite expensive and difficult. If you are still learning network architecture it might be worth it to transition to a network engineering or administration job instead of just a technician. A strong background in network administration is the best starting point for cybersecurity, and it has less physical labor and higher income.

No one cares about your fantasy world, kid.

I'm in the same spot as you. starting a welding course in a few months. Where I live welders are in high demand.

A lot of jobs will slowly kill you. I found air conditioning was giving me sinus headaches and being under fluro lighting made a zombie (could not sleep, emotionless etc). Long hours seem to be a thing with many jobs.

I agree that the best thing you can do is save up money and move to a more rural location. Focus on living frugally and finding a woman interested in kids and making a home.

The real market for repaired electronics ATM is second market smartphones and I suspect it will only increase as fewer and fewer cell phone providers give massive mark-downs on high quality and name branded phones.

I had no idea i had Holla Forumsacks living within 45 miles of me. It's a weird feeling.

Thanks user, I just feel like I am not fulfilling my purpose. I have a side job already, maybe I need to drop my hobby and start a REAL second business that brings in more than $500 a months.

I appreciate it. Praise kek.

thanks for the response user, I appreciate it.

Have a friend in the Pacific Railroad here in the Southwest. He is now some type of quality control inspector who travels at least 3 months of the year. He started at the bottom, fixing rails, maintenance and nigger work (with a bachelors in GENERAL Studies - kek), but has steadily moved up the ranks, loves his job and the people. He makes around 68K a year (at least) and been in for a decade.
He wants kids and a family - says its been hard to settle down with the night shifts and travel.
Godspeed user, if you keep your head out of the clouds and work hard, you're going to make it

This shit makes me wanna go back into labor work.

I will start a robot holocaust. I fucking dare you, shlomo.

No matter how shitty a trade is, I will never ever go back to making minimum wage.

What are you talking about?

You replied to that post seven hours laters, and I've been gone for ten hours or so. Are you retarded?

I am a PR specialist, graphic designer with skills in marketing & SEO.

Here in Ausfailia trades are difficult to get into, all the hoops you have to jump. I have been a cleaner (Janitor) for almost 10 years. Now training to be a watchmaker, 1 year into it. Not as physically demanding as a welder, similar pay or better plus can work anywhere in the world once qualified.

Does brewing count as a trade? Because that's what I'm doing, fell for the university meme but now working in a couple of breweries to gain experience with an aim of starting my own. How'd I do?

Went to a trade high school to learn automotive. I enjoyed working on what I had to learn as I come from no experience with working on cars for the first two years but as the last two years came I noticed how toxic the environment is. Maybe it was just my experience but people were always negative, even our teacher would berate us which demotivated me and others to want to learn. The kids who knew what they were doing because they have experience were elitist as all hell. Can I just like, turn wrench? I could care less about ricing. Yet at least they were tolerable since they were all white like me and had similar world views.

In the end I'm glad I learned what I could, I know skills that I didn't have in the past and can use them to make money. My father and his fathers were welders and they enjoyed it but jumped at better opportunities when they were present.

Stonemason here, gym fags lift weights in front of a mirror and look really gay , I lift stone.

Read about Four Peaks Brewery in Tempe Arizona. Saw those guys come up from nothing in 2003. They worked hard and loved what they did.
They just sold out to Anheiser Busch for milllions.

How do you get into a trade?
I'm a 27yo security guard and wherever I look up local colleges for trades it's pay 7k for pre-apprenticeship program and then that's it.
Is this what's supposed to happen?

Is this how an ex NEET who knows no one is supposed to get into the trades

Bricklayer apprentice from aus here.
Its 4 years of shit pay and tafe with fuckwit lebs but once youre finished its a fucking gold mine. No one my age or there abouts is doing it since its "too hard" or theyre fucking spastics. Trades are the legit career to go into since "IT" is all anyone else wants to do

How?

Because most people are weak.

I will MAKE them notice me.

Mark my words.

They really underestimate computers.

It depends on where you go and how you're allowed to position yourself.

Sometimes you can end up in a weird squat, bent around a pipe, or hunching over a table for 8 hours a day.

Get a wife who can massage your back, or git gud I guess.

You know what… Brick-masonry is my family business and has been for generations.

I might want to get back into it.

Mate id suggest bricklaying cos theirs fuck all brickys left and even less apprentices now, but all scaffolders are complete coconut fuckwits. If youre IQ is over 90 id suggest calling up a apprenticeship agency and talking to one of the chicks in the office about which trade is most looking for new apprentices and that youve been in the industry as a laberor and youre looking to move into a full time trade. Dont sound like a bogan and be confident.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-frequency_trading

I find it very rewarding at the end of the day tbh. Im only laying 300 - 400 bricks a day as a 2nd yr apprentice, but when the day is over you can stand back and enjoy what you've accomplished. Most fuckwits sit in a office and do jack shit, i like to look at half the side of a house we've done in one day.

HFT's have shown me a possible way to turn a ponzi machine into a new frontier.
But it requires every person to be in the know about it.

That's the difficult part.

Solve that issue and accelerationism might become feasible.

There is something there, I can smell it.

The big pipe on the left branches off into that smaller pipe that leads back into the big blue thingamajig that leads into the big pipe: In other words it appears to be a loop. Is that so and why?
And why does the big pipe loop around like that instead of going straight down into the ground? Just because you built that around the existing plumbing/holes?

You can always nuke Seattle and Tacoma

Welders (some well paid), blue collar, low wage workers who bust their asses are the salt of the earth. I am lucky that in found a job that allows me to work with them and not have to break my back. Although I'm paid well and I'm not a tradesman myself, I will always be respectful for what they do. Yeah they can be pricks, but they're straight up with you. No bullshit like the pussy who hides in the back office sucking managements dick while treating everyone like a number.

And good luck getting a machine to rig and fit heavy pipe or modify a scaffold safely.

I say go for it if you need to change something. Will not be easy by any means, but maybe look into industrial applications like refineries, might get an opportunity.

Huh, small world. I may even know you. Are you a big guy?

This!

I am an apprentice electrician who just got my master electrician diploma from tradeschool. (In Practise i am apprentice but in theory a master :^) Its silly) Work with the Solar crew and sometimes go along with maintaince fixing up pools or air ventilation. I am usually always working on roof's.
Also Cuckfit.

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That's funny because I am thinking about studying the massage therapy for my future husband. Why can't they use the back support?

Probably because the result will be kinda same and your health will be at risk.

It is unsafe to use external mechanical aid to improve productivity. You will end up with weakened spine.

Do some weight-lifts to prevent spine from weakening.

Jokes aside, that stands true depending on what employer you have and what you end up welding.and how much the employer care about his workforce.

My last welding job where a full on bodyworkout, only a forklift sometimes helping with the lifts.
The welding job I have now is equiped with positioner machines, traverses, and tables with adjustable heights. So basically every position is available for you.
Otherwise get /fit/ and depend on oats, squats and deadlifts.

I worked for a solid plasterer for a while and every brick wall we rendered he would have a go at the brickies for being rough cunts.

i've been a painter , I didn't like indoor painting , but then i was on the city council sub contracting as a painter doing maintenance on parks, pools, bus stops, lots of bus stops, council buildings, public toilets, soul crushing work the public toilets are, i've seen some shit … like a kid hanging in a cubical , homeless, reading horrible shit faggots write on walls (i always take a pic and send it to the police, kids don't need to read that shit) spiders, snakes, used syringes and it goes on , but the best was the beaches in the sun painting benches and tables.

now i work for a stonemason business and i think this is the job for me, it's hard work and it can kill you at anytime , main cause of death is stone slabs falling on top of you then crushing you to death and cancer but you will have good core strength and if someone makes you mad you just squeeze their head with your hands.

ex neet btw

+ Plenty of work
- Boring as fuck after 6 months

Yeah if you're stuck in a shop making the same part continuously.

Get trained and certifiied in multiple processes and don't ignore the chance to practice any fabrication or machining. If you're good then you can be first in line for the unique interesting jobs

Not in the UK.

UK industry is currently destroyed by unfair competition from eastern EU. Work has been scarce and the pay isn't what it used to be.

Im learning industrial HVAC/R right now, mostly on the job and some schooling. The pay barely keeps me afloat, but as a trainee i dont have to work too hard either so its OK for 2-3 years.
Really enjoying it too, in my company and at school im surrounded by conservative white guys. At the same time theres alot of complex theoretical knowledge, easily on par with todays bachelors degrees, helping to keep the idiots out.
We do mostly maintenance jobs so i drive around all day in small teams and only visit the office to drink coffee in the morning, no boss looking over your back all day or any other desk drama.

When i'm done with the certification i basically have a safe job anywhere in my country and propably most places in the world, atleast here theres a huge demand.
Very much recommended

pretty much, without a connection you aren't going to get hired on with no skills. Find a pre-apprenticeship program with a job placement if you can, that gives you a good chance of having a job when you're done and even if they don't take you back (even if you're good some places will stick with students because they're cheaper) you have experience and a foot in the door.

user, why not partake in one of the oldest trades known to man? The trade that was invented by your Aryan ancestors in ancient egypt, the trade that built the foundations of civilization. The trade that made whites great, the trade that built the pyramids, the greatest construction feat known to man. The trade the freemasons come from.
Masonry.
You literally get paid to get gains.

Trade skills are for plebs.

Kys shill

Fixed that for you.

It is for everyone regardless of social class.

WE

Depends on where you live. Most trades in my area require no experience. You either start out as a utility man (stocking supplies/scrapping) or you start out as an apprentice. Pre-apprenticeship programs are a waste of time and money, as they aren't even required to get into an apprenticeship. At least that is the case here in the Seattle area.

If there aren't a ton of openings they'll prefer you for an apprenticeship if you take a per-apprenticeship first. If there are a lot of jobs around in your trade or if you know someone who can get you a job you might not need to.

Lots of pre apprenticeship programs teach you all the first term apprentice stuff anyways and you can usually take an exam to be exempt from the first school portion of the apprenticeship.

When I got into my apprenticeship for the carpenters' union, all I had to do was fill out an application and wait to be schedule for an 8 hour orientation. Once I did the orientation, I did an interview, drug test and I was in; all with no prior trade experience/education/training.

I'm German and was forced to do some apprenticeship during school.

I'm from a small town and a baker was close to my mothers place, so baker it was.

My coworkers were a mixed bunch: one guy who hated the job and quit during my apprenticeship. He stated pay was poverty tier and hours unhealthy and unsociable. Another guy was a low IQ work horse happy to do something with his hands. Some girl who worked there was borderline retarded. Two other guys were not super smart either but based enough.

In the end I found that working among low IQ people was not for me and the pay was going to be poverty level for many years anyway.

I'm now in IT, but it depends on the company if you have a chill job or some if you're surrounded by cunty femnazi managers. Pay is good and I can easily find another job.

If you have the brains learn something in demand like web development that'll be around for decades to come.

Any small tradeshop in the US is a few short steps from becoming an effective RWDS.

Got concentrations of woke goys who have trucks and certain sets of skills. We're out here, fam.

Carpentry (at least where I am) is a "voluntary trade" so you don't ever need to get certified by anyone. They're easier to get into with no experience.

The responses to this pretty much evidence what you were saying.

Learn trade skills and learn tech skills.

Another fag from the Seattle area here. I recently filled out all the paper work for an electrician apprenticeship. Just waiting to take the test and have the interview now. Inside wiremen, basically the highest level of electrician you can be I think. Journeymen level apparently pays over 45 dollars an hour almost 100 grand a year and that's without any over time. Gonna be a long five years to get there though.

What were your experiences with the "manchildren", user?

Nice thing about trades is you get payed to learn them instead of going into debt to pay for a college degree that might not get you anywhere.

I'm a self-taught blacksmith and sadly there are very few people who are professional blacksmiths.
I personally like my job a lot, I'm always working on something new, always meeting new people, and It's fun.
Normally, it's incredibly shitty. But sometimes I'll get a commission worth thousands that will keep me busy for a month or so. Othertimes people ask for 'samples' or string me along through the design phase but when I ask for half of the payment upfront they either tell me they'll get back to me they never do, that they'll pay me for it after I get done, or that they could do it cheaper themselves.
The blacksmithing community is very tight-knit and friendly since there are so few of us kicking around. If someone needs some advice, some help, or is looking to buy an anvil/vise/forge/ect someone will be there to help you.

Sometimes I do demonstrations for a little bit of extra cash, mostly it's for sustainable living classes, other-times it's at farmer's markets teaching people how to make hooks, chisels, and chain. The kids really enjoy it which is nice.

Customers? Completely hit or miss. Sometimes they'll look at your stuff and actually pay the full price, other-times they'll pick up a $150 door-knocker or knife and attempt to buy it for $25 since anyone could do my job.

Honestly there are probably only about 100 of us in New York left and I'm probably the youngest by about 20 years.

I wanted to be an electrician but here in Canada you can't get an electrical apprenticeship unless you have family or friends who're in the trade. So I do electrical work under the table, mostly new installations. I like the work, but the pay is shit since I'm not an actual electrician. Probably going to kill myself in a few years.

Come on now.

Yoga is for women with large asses and tight pants, and unions are jewish as fuck.

For fuck's sake user. Maybe you should have kept drinking, I am getting the feeling you thought more logically at that point.

Fucking millenials, blaming everyone for everything except who's really at fault. A.k.a. (((you))).

You don't know how many hours are in a day or how to spell? Must have been the boomers. :^)

Get a job, nigger.

So you're a degenerate parasite living off tax money.

HVAC installer here, i work for a small company making about 4-5x the money that minimum wagecucks make per day and i work probably 2x less hard and still get to enjoy a good bit of my time off while our next contracts are being developed.

You're an absolute retard if you don't think that you can't make bank doing trades instead of being a burgerfag or a server at a restaurant.

Don't think about it, do it. Get the fuck off your shitposting station and get into a trade, OP.

You need to look up electrical contractors in your area. Go to findacontractor.esasafe.com/ and put in your postal code etc to find ones close to you. Then show up at their shops at 6:16am with your tools and safety gear in hand and ask them if they would try you out for two weeks. You can alternatively call them, but it shows less initiative. Don't work longer than 3 months of unregistered apprentice work.

Alternatively you can contact your local union and ask when the next intake period is, then go write a mechanical aptitude test, then do an interview. If your lucky you'll get in that way.

Don't give up.

Yoga is good for your body man. Makes you a lot more flexible and improves your balance. Can be pretty good for preventing/alleviating injuries if your teacher knows what they're doing.

If they aren't constantly correcting your form you're in the wrong class.

My buddy didn't know anyone and he got an electrical apprenticeship just by going into shops and talking to them about the trade/job opportunities until one of them decided to take him on.

That shit about just showing up and talking to the foreman/manager/shop owner and giving them a firm handshake still applies in the trades believe it or not

How much math do you have to use because i HATE math?

Both sides haven't helped the situation but don't pretend that baby boomers didn't create the foundation for this shit for a few extra shekels.

My brother is a welder he is sort of red pulled but not very educated. I cook which is borderline trade but I can cut meat which is a trade.

I also outright own my home no financing or anything and have basically rebuilt it from the ground up. Get fucked kikes.

The only math you'll have to know is basic math like measurements, temperature splits, pressure ratios, and knowing how fast you work. That's really it, other than that it's pretty simple. You just have to know how to listen to your boss or whoever it is you're working for and you can learn anything about HVAC.

however i don't do commercial work so if you want to do that it's a fucking whole lot more headache but it pays a lot better as well.

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I know nothing about those at all.

I've worked in residential HVAC and the only thing I knew was measurements. Like all other education, about 80% of what they showed me in HVAC CC never came up. The theory is nice but in practice 99% of repair is simple plug and play fuse or heating element shit, and the manufacturing companies make it very very easy to get the right BTU unit for a given space, no nerd math ever needed.

I might give it a try. Beats being a neet i guess.

What, after hours, or on weekends? Because I can't afford to quit my current job.

and after a while you can pretty much guess by eye which space needs what amount of tonnage.

Getting a start doing mobile home installs will give you the best educational and vocational experience available because doing residential house installs can be a bit tricky and there's a bit more to know when doing these things.

Mobile homes are the easiest install environment to get started with, i promise you.

I"M NOT A MEXICAN LIKE YOU, YOU HAVE TO GO BACK!!!

Don't i have to go to school first? I have a tiny bit of experience in a different trade though, not that would help.

Excellent and important thread.

Bump.

What does Holla Forums know about elevator installation and repair? It pays ridiculously well but that seems too good to be true

This is a legitimate Dived and Conquer demoralizing faggot right here.

No doubt about it, one of those "Heh pill" larpers who shit on anything and everything to make themselves feel better.

Even though you got me with a good dig, I keked, this thread really isn't the time or place for these FOR DA LULZ faggotry posts.

Having a stable, well paying job with JUST an associates isn't my idea of a gold pot at the end of the rainbow. Yes, I may be better off than a majority of the population, but like any and every Holla Forumsack here, I yearn for something better.

The any that told me to get serious about starting my own business with my free time was right. I was feeling a little sorry for myself, and reading this thread made me appreciate my current situation and status more than I did when I first posted.

For all you summerfags here today, TAKE A FUCKING SHOP CLASS. You might just find out you like working with your hands and the officespace wage cuck life is not for you.

Union work only. The only way to get in is by reference.

Not only was Yoga creating & perfected by man (like everything else "woman-only", e.g cooking, house work, etc.. ) - men also benefit from Yoga the most.

Explain further.

Considering the state of pre-civil war and chaos we are constantly facing nowadays, I can't fucking understand how some anons still think it'd be useless to learn tradeskills or that being in IT is good because "it will still be around in 10 years". But nigger it won't.

The world is about to implode. All the useless shit you crazy parasites are doing will just become essentially pointless in a few moments.
You really think programming some shitty scripts for some random nature-destroying, multicultural-promoting multinational will help the community of men in any meaningful way?
You want to stay alone in your cubicles being paid and ordered by people you hate just to be able to buy more shit you don't need?

Wake the fuck up.

This. I would be extremely glad to see whatever union it is here in Canada, busted apart and destroyed. Any time we have to do a bit of work in an elevator shaft we have to call one of them in, they're always late, often reschedule at the last minute (messing up our schedule and often causing us to lose work hours), and they charge ridiculous amounts of money just to open up and move the elevator. But since every elevator tech is in this one union, there's no way for us to go "your prices are insane and your service is terrible, we'll go with a competitor instead of doing business with you" because there are no competitors, they're all colluding, which is really what their union is. One giant instance of colluding, which leads to other trades getting fucked over whenever we have to deal with them and their lazy piece of shit workers.

Can you elaborate on that?

How do I get into trades?
Just google shit, buy equipment and learn on my own? or do I get into an apprenticeship with somebody already doing something?
I'm interested in woodwork but It can be anything really.

He will teach you his trade, give you tools, and eventually his house and car.

Be more specific summeranon. Do some research, release some basic info that can't dox you, and lurk more.

Look at some of the posts here, that are similar to yours, and ask those anons questions before they go back to work and forget this thread exists.

Just got an apprenticeship for a jeweler. Pay is decent for my area, and I've already had some experience in the field from my own hobbies of making jewelry through college. Went for a chem degree, got awards and publications like the best, but got screwed over by a guy in registrar and silly credit hour limits. Now I have a certification to be a chemist by the ACS, BUT NO DEGREE, so no lab will hire me even with all my shit.

Just goes to show a man should always be skilled in several areas, that way he doesn't become an insect and specialize in just one thing.

I work as an IT making a miserable $13 an hour.

Just to add fuel to your suicidal thoughts. I made more then that as a temp at an amazon fulfillment warehouse.

Legit blacksmith? Fuck i didnt know that still existed mate. Can you forge medieval weapons like swords an axes or more commercial shit like railings and mechanical parts now? Love to get myself some proper old weaponry

Ya'll kinda make me feel bad. I got my father and both grandfathers staring down at me, they all made/make six figures. My grandfather bought an international space corporation for fun and plays the stock market all day (his REAL hobby). My family has a history of wealth, not super rich but upper middle class. So far I have been making cultural marxists pay for my school and an international trip. I have beat my father and maybe one grandfather at schooling. Didn't beat my other grandfather since he got a full ride to cornell. I'm transferring to the best Mechanical Engineering school in Texas. However, I only have $30k saved up, but the rest will be paid by my parents. Meanwhile, y'all are struggling to make 60k.

I have thought about bricklaying. I hear the pay is good and the work is not actually thay hard because the labourer does all the shit. Bricklaying is also a skill that will make you valuable when the happening comes.

How long is the apprenticeship and can you do accelerated apprenticeships? I don't want to spend 4 years on a teenager's wage at my age.

This is what meant when they said "git gud".

my sides

That's bretty good. You get at least 40hrs/week?
What state?

Some people just get lucky being born to wealthy families. At least you're not a pozzed up lefty faggot wasting his luck on useless degrees.

I am a locksmith. I have bounced around working for myself and for national companies.

I love it, and their attempts to make us obsolete has so far made us more nessary and able to make more money.

How have they tried to make you obsolete? Bio-metrics?

"Elevator users don't have to be your audience. Elevators are over." – Otis Alexander

While I am trained in IT I hated the job. This was years ago and after a few months here, putting together that the assholes who caused me the most trouble and who I had to do the most work to outsmart was a fucking kike.

Working for actual kikes was better than the sneaky shit he used your pull.

Kwikset smartkey locks are an attempt to have landlords be able to rekey their own places. However, they cost more money, break easy, and the silent agreement to bill more to anyone stupid enough to insist on the product.

Kab252/552s are an attempt to allow banks to change their own combinations. However, they are easy to break, wear out quickly, need replacement due to use error in combo changing, which bricks them. I have been making a fair penny each install, and tend to have to replace every couple months. It is. Also bank hardware and the "fuck the banks" attitude leads most guys to charge banks at a hifher rate on everything.

Biometrics has mostly been a scam. Some SD vaults have it to have single access. Theoretically they work, but the ES guy who set them up usually just set it to detect body heat and call it a day.

Also electronic timelocks tried to push out mechanicals before my time. Which is some of the best paid vault work is annual pms to clean them. They are still around, but they have a high failure rate and when they do, you make a grand-30 grand opening their vault for them.

The biggest issue is "scammers" eating up all the low-level work. Trying to extort people for car lockouts. Google seems to be helping them and the scammers tend to be isreali.

Was literally just about to ask if you beat up all the isreali kids with phony student visas in your spare time.

If I had spare time. Rekeying a store front as we speak.

how do you get into that line of work, apprenticeship, schooling, both?

I can't do college due to panic attacks and depression. Considering becoming a truck driver due to a lack of options. I've been around different bullshit jobs all my life and want a career, and can't stand the thought of going on disability and staring at a wall all goddamn day.

Never mind that NWF is a fucking joke, since the Aryan Brotherhood tried that in rural Idaho and got chased out by the locals

daily reminder tradeskill crap is for mexicans, why the fuck would I lower myself to do that slave tier stuff?

I don't think this is a good idea, user.

Spoken like a true jew.

Or cuckservative.

I don't know what else to do with my life. There are literally no other options out there that aren't poverty-tier or living like a nigger.

I'm a shrubber

Is your name Roger?

Explain.

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Depends on where you live. If you are in a area with lots of regulation, I would skip on the idea.

If you are in a place with no licencing laws. I recomend you find out if there is small locksmith association in your area. Buy an .003 kit and watch yt vids on rekeying and join your local association. Get to know the older locksmiths in your area and offer 50 bucks a day to ride along and learn. Being willing to pay to learn shows some iniative.

Learn who in your area is good at what and any work you cannot do forword to them with the agreement you get to watch them do it.

Reminder that the state wants you to be absolutely dependant on it, being able to fend for yourself in any practical way makes you the baddests of goyim.

Any locksmiths here? I've been looking into that, too.

Any security guards here? I just started. My job doesn't pay very well but I want to move to another state and go into law enforcement (right now i'm stuck in southern california, no way I am becoming a cop here). Or maybe I can find a private security job that actually pays well.

I know your feels brother

Not reading the thread I presume.
Either way, I am a locksmith, I will answer any questions you have that I have not already covered.

Shit sucks
And my folks are like "just get a desk job user"
Guess it might be my only option because I'm worthless for anything else

Is there some sort of site that details trade conditions around the US, or do you have to do your own research to figure out the state of things?

It really is one of the most kikey industries I've seen. So much so that it redpills the other workers.

For my career, this question has come up. I'm trying to go to medical school and everything I have learned my first two years I could have taught myself through khan academy or something, the courses are physics, biology, chemistry, and breadth (aka bullshit). The fact of the matter is though no medical school in the western world would accept me if I put on my application that I watched 1000 hours of khan academy but I have no degree. As great as that would be it simply doesn't work that way.

I'm doing my best to get my degree as cheaply as possible though by going to my local university, taking in-state tuition, living at home, and working. I'm going to graduate not only without debt but with savings and a double major. The cost of my degree will have been about 48,000$. If I was living on my own the cost would have been double. I could have lowered it even more by going to community college for 3 years, but then it would be 5 years before I got my degree and that extra year is worth the cost.

don't think there are any associations or anything in my town, can i just head to a shop and ask what it would take to get into locksmithing

What state do you want to move to?

Go to your local tafe n ask about their fulltime brick laying course. You can finish it within a year i think, not 100% on that though. Id avoid sketchy shit like nustart or whatever its called which says it can give you apprenticeships in 2 years.
If youre lucky and you get a good boss and youre not retarded you can get what i got an thats i get paid basically double if i work saturdays or we do a cashy job.. its not a drastic help financially but you know.. every little bit of extra money helps

Currently in the application proccess for IBEW.

Keep your opinions to yourself in unions.

I forgot to say that if you do follow up on the full time course id recommend calling up afew brickys an trying to get at least 1 day a week laboring to see how the actual job is done on site and not just in the tafe work shop. It could even get you a job once youre finished cos brickys know each other so if your boss doesnt need you, he'll know someone who most certainly will..

What is your area? I'll see if anyone is nearby you.

I'm in Omaha. The association's in Grand Island, from what I saw. That's a 3 hour drive away.

Is Foley-Belsaw worth the money?

Literal fucking torture tbh fam. Has to be the most boring, tedious and difficult degrees. It doesn't help that everyone around you is either a gook, pajeet or an autistic weeb either.

Does she take the piss out of your soldering iron?

If you're wealthy you're better off getting a Law degree tbh. Much better corporate mobility.

Richfags can afford doing useless degrees because they have better networking and connections.

I thought the US had too many lawyers at the moment, and law degrees were becoming as useless as gender studies degrees without connections.

No, a fucking law degree is not becoming 'as useless as a gender studies degree'. There is literally nothing more worthless than a gender studies degree. Where the fuck did this meme come from?

Provided you go to a decent university (I'm not in the US btw), a Law degree is a pretty fucking great ticket for a variety of careers.

On a whim I started driving a tanker. 2 months of training, including CDL school, gets you $55k first year. Owner-operators make $80k+ after expenses.

The key to trucking is to do something with skill - tanks, flatbed, heavy-hauling, etc. This weeds out many of the lazy, low-iq types. You need to consider the lifestyle aspects too. There are no well-paying local jobs.

Guys who just drive boxes (dry van) make no money, are stereotypical truckers and are treated poorly.

bump

this, and it's fucking great

Honestly I'd like to work in a trade like welding but I think I missed that opportunity.

I'm currently at college and getting into my senior year for a Software Engineering BS degree. The problem is I definitely fell for the hype and I'm convinced there won't be any job for me when I graduate. There have been career fairs held at my school and I've gone to them but most of the companies there don't seem real interested.

So when I graduate I have to think about getting a job and paying off my loans, but to get into a trade I'd need a least another two years of school in a completely different field and still no guarantee of a job. Just fuck my shit up fam.

So fuckin what bud. I'm in the trades too and I've been lifting for years and will continue to do so. The right answer is not one of the other, but both.

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I build houses for a living. Before that I worked construction and did odd jobs. Anything to stay out of the office. I would rather kill myself than get stuck sitting at a desk all day, surrounded by gossipy women and weasely middle management assholes.

el paso county

I'm going to college for economics and finance. Going to work construction for a while when I'm done because I'll need the experience and knowledge the work brings. I want to build and develop real estate with the education and construction experience. any Texasfags here?

I get inspiration from the God-Emperor and his wisdom, embed related.

Trump is a boomer.

Ayy, how difficult is it to learn how to blow glass? I need a hobby.

houston texas unifag reporting, going for finance and statistics. watching the video you linked currently, really digging it.

currently working at an accounting firm and definitely not loving it, labor jobs seem more appealing each and every day

sounds like a good plan user, I wish you the best of luck

jw electrician here

best decision ive ever made

almost everyone ive met in my trade is pretty redpilled, even the few niggers that make it this far.

Will they stomp on me even if I'm busting my ass?

Fucking nice. I'm just in community college to get my associates. Considered University of Houston, only an hour or so away. Danke.

still same user as

but posting from mobile
I wish it were easier to meet fellow Holla Forumsbros but there are never any meet up threads because everyone would suspect alphabet agencies.
not to seem too desperate but if you want to grab a beer or just shoot the shit drop like a temp email or something, would be refreshing to chill with an non-pozzed person for once. hopefully this isn't breaking any global rules
polite sage for off-topic

Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, North or South Dakota. Is it doable? I am ready to leave ASAP.

Check out >>>/meadhall/

same user as

not sure if ID will change
I'm a bit of a poorfag. I've been putting in applications at different (((financial institutions))) but I've not heard back from any. It sucks I haven't got the gas money to meet with any Holla Forumslacks. I want to do construction too but all the crews out here are beaners and probably wouldn't work around a college schedule anyway.

was also at the Trump Woodlands rally on the 17th, was great