Jews Disrupt Greek Orthodox Pentecost Prayer in Jerusalem, Calling Christians 'Evil'

Jews Disrupt Greek Orthodox Pentecost Prayer in Jerusalem, Calling Christians 'Evil'

Religious tensions roiled anew on Mount Zion this week when police detained five of some dozens of enraged Jewish extremists who attempted to disrupt Pentecostal prayers held by hundreds of Greek Orthodox worshipers.

As the Greek Orthodox procession made its way on Monday to the compound that houses the Cenacle, the presumed site of the Room of the Last Supper, and the presumed Tomb of King David, the Jewish demonstrators with flowing ear locks and large knitted yarmulkes screamed, booed and blew shofars at the worshipers.

As the procession made its way up the narrow stairs to the Cenacle, Jewish demonstrators, held back by Border Police and riot control teams, could be heard shouting: "We will tear down this abomination," and, "you are evil."

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At the height of the ceremony, a small group from the Greek Orthodox, led by the bishop, came down the stairs and entered the Tomb of King David, escorted by the police. The Jewish protestors grew more frenzied. "The Jewish people lives forever!" King David lives forever!" one screamed. "May the name of your so-called God be blotted out forever," cursed another. "Nazi," someone screamed at the police.

Seemingly oblivious to the crowd, the Greek Orthodox worshipers stayed in the Tomb only a few moments then went back up the stairs.

A man dressed in ultra-Orthodox garb, who would only give his name as "Tzvi from Jerusalem," stood by with tears in his eyes.

"It hurts me that they are letting these goyyim (non-Jews) come here," he said. "It hurts me that these evil men, who have oppressed the Jews throughout history, are being allowed to contaminate our holy sites. And it hurts me even more that the police, led by our Jewish government, are allowing them to do so."

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But in recent years, various Jewish groups have tried to reclaim the centrality of Mount Zion. Fueled by religious zealotry, some of them are hill-top youth prevented by security authorities from being in the West Bank, and have instead made Mount Zion their home.

Tensions have increased particularly since a visit by Pope Francis in 2014, when rumors circulated that Israel intends to cede parts of Mount Zion, including David's Tomb, to the Vatican and other Christian institutions.

Israeli officials have repeatedly denied these rumors.

The extremists aren't convinced, though.

"There are Jews who would sell away that that is most precious to the Jewish people," says one of the young activists. "They have forgotten what it means to be Jewish. To be proud and defend the land. We will be the defenders."

Part of the Jewish extremists' plan of defense has included defacing churches and their property, desecrating Christian cemeteries, and spitting on and verbally accosting priests and monks.

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According to activists from "Window on Mount Zion," a project sponsored by the Jerusalem Intercultural Center and Search for Common Ground, there has been relative calm over the past few months, thanks in part to police station established on Mount Zion last year.

According to various agreements, Christians are entitled to observe communal worship in the Cenacle five times a year, including the Pentecost. For individual prayer, the room is open to all. King David's Tomb, which has unofficially been turned into a synagogue, is open for Jewish communal and individual prayer at all times.

This week, the trouble began well before the Greek Orthodox observance. There are three observances of Pentecost in Jerusalem, and the Armenians celebrated theirs on Sunday afternoon.

In the early hours of Sunday morning, several Jewish extremists barricaded themselves in David's Tomb, apparently mistakenly believing the Armenians would be granted the right to enter David's Tomb – which, in fact, is part only of the Greek Orthodox tradition. They protesters were removed, detained, and issued restraining orders banning them from the site.

But others returned early on Monday morning and tried once again to take control over the site, and by 7 A.M., dozens had already gathered near the scene. In carefully choreographed arrangements, police allowed early morning Jewish prayers on Monday morning, then closed the tomb to visitors until after the Greek Orthodox prayer and set up security perimeters.

In prior coordination with the police, Rabbi Aaron Yitzhak Stern from Bnei Brak, unofficially appointed by adherents as the "Rabbi of Mount Zion," removed the Torah scrolls from David's Tomb then returned them after the Christians had concluded their prayers. Also in coordination with police, the Greek worshipers did not bring any Christian symbols, icons, or incense into the Tomb.

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Several police officials noted with satisfaction that "overall, the events passed without incident" and that the police had been able to find a "balance between the right to protest and the lack of any right to violently disrupt anyone else's right to prayer."

But as the crowds dispersed, one of the protesters made it clear that he and fellow demonstrators had no intention of backing down. "The goyyim got their way this time. But they won't the next time. King David lives forever! The people of Israel lives forever!"

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I hope Putin sacks Jerusalem after retaking Constantinople. Or nukes it. Either way.

Better watch out. Greek Orthodox started the Russian pogroms. Israel makes a nice honeypot.

THE HOLOCAUST NEVER HAPPENED BUT IT WILL SOON
THE HOLOCAUST NEVER HAPPENED BUT IT WILL SOON
THE HOLOCAUST NEVER HAPPENED BUT IT WILL SOON
THE HOLOCAUST NEVER HAPPENED BUT IT WILL SOON

This is great because it lines up with story of the first Pentecost. The Apostles were hiding out in the upper room in fear of the Jews who murdered Christ until The Holy Spirit descended on them and they were able to go preach the Gospel in every language without fear.

Am atheist, can confirm.
Christians are foremost stupid, also evil.

Jews being jews. They are sandniggers. Hope the islamic horde bones them.

Why are you here?

This is called Chuzpah.

That's true, I didn't even think of that.

Man, kikes have always been kikes.

Why stop in Constantinople?

THEOS VULT

sauce?

At least the based Greek cops didn't take any shit.
Kikes getting cucked out of their safe spaces, Kek.

I think they know it damm well

Ah, what the kikes do best.

Greek Orthodox (Union) or Orthodox Christians from Greece? should be the former.

Into the oven you go.

Reminder that Christians are traitors and even the best of Christians should be killed.

Bullshit. Pissed off peasants started the pogroms. It had nothing to do with religion. They were pissed off because the Jews were bleeding them dry with usury and taxation while being endorsed by the Christian Church and Christian tsar.

If anything, the pogroms were anti-christian in that they opposed the Christian Church protection and enabling of Jew swindlers.

ITT: Jew worshipers fight with their masters.


ITT: Jew are made special and increase their power levels by race mixers


ITT: Jew worshipers who betray their race try to create a false dichotomy

ITT: Orthodoxy pretends it did not side with Communism

sage
sage Christian Communism, nigger breeding, NWO traitors

sage

Stoics > (((Bible)))

Just admit you don't believe in Jewish fairy tales but are too weak minded and Untermensch to redpill yourself. Just admit your parents cucked you and Orthodoxy worshiped Lenin as a Saint. That's why they mummified his body and Putin visits it every year.

Take this ortocuck horshit and shove it up >>>/christian/ arse

go suck a dick DnC jude.

Jews seem to hate and control anything whites like, including paganism and Christianity. As far as I'm concerned, however, A white is a white. No matter his creed

Bump.

so you're the faggot that killed George Lincoln Rockwell

sage

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HOLOCAUST 2: THIS TIME IT'S REAL

COMING THIS SUMMER

sage

Seriously?
That's MGTOW level degeneracy. Don't mate Aryans, die for Israel.

Get back in your grave, Chris Hitchens

Because this place isn't exclusive to kike worshippers.

You're overplaying your hand if you think attacking Christianity in a thread about Jews attacking Christianity will convince anyone of your righteousness.

Kingdom of Jerusalem /= Jewish Israeli state

I'm Pagan, you nihilist faggot.

This.

Way to paraphrase the Talmud, Chaim.

Christian scientists and engineers like Henry Ford, Nikola Tesla, Issac Newton, Gregor Mendel, James Watts, Leonhard Euler, Pierre Laplace, and Michelangelo weren't foolish for believing in a religion that provides good conduct.

You're probably going to ignore all that despite Christianity starting the first free western education system by stating that belief is irrelevant and that it's all owed to genes, but how do you explain cucked progressive countries like Sweden?

There's a reason why people follow the Abrahamic religions and it's because they're an effective, strong doctrine to make society grow. You foolishly dismiss it because it's "old", but there's nothing wrong with a doctrine that tells you to breed, discipline, and work. The Bible is way better than an ideology that tells you not to breed, ignore responsibility by having "fun", and leech off welfare.

Ho w do you explain cucked progressive countries like the USA and France (Christian and cucked for hundreds of years)? How do you explain non-cucked countries like Czech republic and Finland (atheist)? There is almost no correlation between religion and level of cuckolding and degeneracy. The biggest correlation is between wealth and cuckoldry. Rich white countries are degenerate whether they are religious or not.

GLR was an atheist who thought Christianity was a useful vessel for reaching Americans, since they were so Christarded. You can see that the Christfags did not heed his warnings and have instead destroyed their nation because Jesus told them to.

Crusades were mostly against Europeans and they actually destroyed Constantinople so that it could be taken by Turks. Crusades were a net loss because Christians are losers.

Oh, and perpetuating the false meme that the Jewish desert is a holy land makes you a traitor. You are bolstering Jewish power by repeating their memes. Good job faggot, you will die on the day of the rope.

But this only works one way. Poor countries are still cucked if they are Christian. Look at Greece. Poor as dirt, Greek Orthodox, yet still vote for a leftist party that cucked them out to the EU and flooded them with migrants. They were occupied by Turks for so long and still vote to be reenslaved by Islam just a few generations later. That is the sort of Stockholm syndrome induced by Christcuckoldry.

Cede? It's the Vatican' property, currently occupied by the British Royal Navy and their "state of kike" admiralty yids.

He was an agnostic.

Either way he was not Christian.

Countersage.

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sage nigger breeders

It really is an interesting choice of words.
The Talmud says "the best of the goyim should be killed." It says a lot that he'd use the same wording here. Certainly a Freudian slip.

Then stop fucking whining like a Christian faggot.

Fuck you. I'm also a fedora tipper and I can say jews and muslims are the worst thing in this corrupted earth.

It is everyone's fault for following a kike god.

[MAXIMUM OVERTIP]

Yes.

Fedoras are THAT stupid.

HAHAHA! OH WOW!

Christfags sure are retarded.

That is a pretty fucking neato meme. Mind if I steal it?

Christfags are this stupid.


It is a fact that most crusades were against pagan Europeans.

True, glad you admit it.

Quantity over quality. Most Christians are not even human.

Completely incorrect. The largest empires in history have been the British empire and current American empire, both Jewish. And neither anywhere near conquering the globe.

Again, completely incorrect. Technological advancement came despite Christianity, not because of it. It is truly retarded to believe that Christianity had anything to do with technological advancement when most of it came due to liberalism and capitalism and European genetics, not Christian feudalism.

Yes, a play on the Jew quote to convey a not-too-dissimilar sentiment.

But fine, let's take it literaly. Let the best Christians be killed. Gee, that'll be sacrificing a lot of European people huh. To lowball the number, let's say, 30% of Europeans killed. That'd be a big step towards Jewish world domination, don't you think?

Killing European traitors is absolutely necessary. I estimate it will need to be even higher than 30%. Probably close to 50% of Europeans will need to be killed for the good of the race. But once the traitors are purged it will be easy to recover because they are the only thing allowing the enemy to win. Without traitors (mostly Christians and their fellow leftists), Europe would be cleaned up in less than a year.

A lot of losers itt. These clowns care more about shaming Christians than curating ammunition against the real enemy. Which side are they on?

It didn't get dubs, but it should have

let's see how we can educate a moron who spreads misinformation!

Pagans from Northern Europe routinely attacked Christians so they fought back. Constantinople was sacked because of many reasons, first because the Crusaders were mistreated and second because of a Latin massacre years before where the Greeks killed Catholics.

Europe would have received the North African treatment if it was not Christian. Why? Because Christianity united them, before Christianity, as you can see what Rome, wars were a lot more deadly.. Without Christianity they would not have been able to defend against Muslims because they would have been fighting on all sides with Vikings taking Ashkenaz a money to attack Europeans. To expand on this point, the type of war waged between Christians is extremely effective for technological development. It does not destroy cities or kill a lot of the population, it's mostly between the nobility. It is the Christian concept of just war. To say there was little technological advancement while Western Europe had feudalism is retarded. another anti-Christian retard with no knowledge of history. Go cry about Christians retaliating against pagans some more.

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So you're a faggot LARPer. Good to know

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On the contrary, the redpilling of East Europe was an unintended side effect of its previous cucking by atheists and the destruction of its religion.

A country that undergoes communism is like a person being attacked by a nigger on the street.
They get more redpilled, but they also get beat up and have their shit stolen.

When Muslims took over Palestine and attacked Christians visiting holy sites, a Crusade was called. It's high time for another.

christcucks. Not even once.

Uh-oh, OP! Looks like we have evidence of something that goes against the narrative of Holla Forums's resident fedoras and LARPagans (I'm lookin' at you KEK worshipers).
(((SHUT IT DOWN)))

OY VEY
SHUT IT DOWN

Christians hold all the power, all the money, all the nukes, all the armies, yet we hand our power over to the kikes on the bizarre idea that Jesus is going to appear over jerusalem someday.

2000 years and counting…yeah he will be back soon, very soon.

disgusting

SHOCKING.

why cant we all just le get along?

THE HOLOCAUST NEVER HAPPENED, BUT IT SURE WILL

the biggest threat that jews know to their religion is christianity, not islam. Thats why they have been subverting it for thousands of years, but haven't been able to stop its spread. So now they co-opt it and use christian power against itself

it jew-jitsu.

hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Christ is the biggest threat because He is Truth in the flesh.

He said, “I am the way and the truth and the life”

That's why (((they))) killed Him

So am I, and I agree.

The Christ virus is a very pernicious one. If there is one silver lining at all to Islam invading the west: it's the dramatic reduction of the Christ virus.

It took a Europeanization of that kike kult to turn it into something which wasn't totally cucked. Unfortunately, as we see today, the virus has been successful in overcoming our people's natural racial defenses and ensuring a more Jewish/Muslim future.

Why are you here? >>>/christ/ is over there!

see

Foolish me for thinking that "The Jew cries out as he strikes you" was merely a metaphor.

DEATH TO THE JEWS FOR GOD
FOR JESUS!
HEIL HITLER
ORTHODOXY WILL PREVAIL

You want to kill half of all europeans. Good luck getting anyone to support you.

Daily reminder that a one true faith doesn't resort to tactics that are shared with the ancient Babylonians, Romans, and Egyptians.

It is for Whites.

Oh, so you're like the Masons: gotta believe in some sort of SkyKing to join?

What a fucking semitic thought process you have there!

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As an Atheist, let me be the most recent (in current moment) to tell you that you >>>/christ/ faggots are some of the dumbest pieces of shit to ever grace this planet's surface. You are dumber than the average Pagan larper. Your shit stinks worse than the Muslim stink. Why? Because you are fools bought into a semitic lie like it's fucking truth.

What does your orthodoxy tell you of space travel? What does it tell you about the human organism and how to provide for its survival off-planet?

Absolutely jack shit. Your "orthodoxy" is not the future, it is the dead past, just like all other semitic kikery. Just like the Pagan "gods." Science, reason, logic, mathematics; we have far superior tools in our hands now.

The masses can have >>>/christ/ but we elite should know better.

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So you're just a pure degenerate materialist? Do you reject all forms of spirituality?

Define "spirituality."

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Commit suicide immediately, intl.

He may be an idiot, but Christianity is toxic garbage at this point. Whenever I have the opportunity to make this argument I will because Christians fall for it every time:

Is there any place on earth that should not be Christian? Is there any culture, population, ethnic group, etc, that should not be exposed to Christianity?

This question is the perfect bait, no Christian can resist answering and they will always give you the answer that strikes at the very heart of their bullshit ideology.

Fucking educate yourself, you worthless sack of shit.

Remember to let these goons have stupid religious, political and racial arguments with themselves.

It's all they deserve.

if you weren't an idiot you'd realise that there's no single clear-cut definition of spirituality.

Then he has no reason to even consider it if you can't even define what it is. Now let me tell you about mystical energy feelings from spirit beings. It's hard to describe or define, but you should definitely believe in them because I said so.

Fuck >>>Holla Forums !

Did my dirty Atheism trigger you? Or was it my realtalk in calling you idiots out for what you are: lemmings following a kike creation to your race's doom!

Don't let my bombastic approach fool you. I've played too much pigeon chess in the trenches to play patty-cake anymore. My goal isn't to win over who I am accosting directly, it's to shake them up so they reveal how naked they truly are to the lurkers (yes, it's bait in a way). If you learned anything about MemeMagick(tm) in your time here, you should already know almost all people don't accept/reject facts/ideas/memes based on objective truth. We accept/reject based on our "meme tree," or the current set of acceptable, integrated memes we have within our psyche at the time.

JUDEO-CHRISTIAN VALUES
JUDEO-CHRISTIAN VALUES
JUDEO-CHRISTIAN VALUES
JUDEO-CHRISTIAN VALUES
JUDEO-CHRISTIAN VALUES
JUDEO-CHRISTIAN VALUES
JUDEO-CHRISTIAN VALUES

Literally your post. You understand critical thinking and objective fact finding.

does not, and like most other >>>/christ/ faggots, probably cannot and will not ever understand. They are the lemmings. Last cuckchan exodus to here was one too many!

Spirituality is a broad concept that generally asserts that there exists something greater than oneself and that there is a meaning to life that must be searched for and discovered. There is no single definition of spirituality, because it can take many different forms

I'm not a christcuck, you mentally defective nigger. Learn to read.

several orthodox churches have been burned recently, last one was in nyc…i know kikes are behind it

My bad, you're a Pagan larper.

I mix you guys up all the time, I can't help it. The bullshit all looks brown and liquidy to me…

I'm not a Pagan Larper either, you sub-70 iq nigger.

nice id

I would have given that a better name than Spirituality… Evolution-consciousness maybe?

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How can you attribute a consciousness to a natural process that has no inherent direction or purpose? Sounds like you're attributing spiritual value to something already.

So you call Christcucks idiots, and Pagans larpers. You also fail to defend any position. Are you Ayyyygnostic? A "spiritual" new-ager? Hindu? Buddhist? Jain?

Right now I'm leaning more toward troll…

This from a guy living in a country that burned neighboring muslim children with white phosphorous.

It's like you've never heard of machine learning.

I bet if you told some sand nigger 1500 years ago, that we'd be flying in machines and talking to people across the globe with less than 2 seconds latency on the high side, they'd have kekked before stoning you for heresy to Mohammed.

That is what you are now, regarding our current knowledge of computation. I already know and understand that, given a computer powerful enough and with a complex enough set of algorithms, one can eventually be made to pass the Turing Test. We will eventually be able to develop something which for all intents and purposes is conscious and creative. Eventually that machine will be the size of 4 floors of a skyscraper and have the IQ of a nigger, but then it will get smaller and smarter as we make new discoveries and make current systems more efficient.

Humans don't get a free pass from "this electron releases that photon which excites this other electron 300 micrometers away, which then gives the atom just enough energy to lose covalent bond, etc etc etc.

Life is mechanical,
Computation is Life!(R)

Are you the autistic tripfag that used to sperg out about technology?

I was wondering why you suddenly disappeared.

I never leave,

I just take on a new form from time to time.

I wonder though, human language is evolution, many of our things are evolution in the short term.

an AI could probably guide our evolution into whatever it desires. Which most likely would be the maintenance and expansion of it for the time being. Since its reach in this world is very limited.

But our evolution already could be guided, by search engines, by facebook newsfeeds (joos though) Which is kinda the real danger.

But in the realm of the insane, what if that intel ME actually is quite a sophisticated, personal guided evolution engine. Like a personal assistant. Tied to you, a second outside brain if you will.

It could subtly and outside of our cognition provide you hints, it could crash, or lag at only certain things, it could subtly, very, very subtly change you.

I for example find myself to be very strange. I am completely different than my family. In my family there are no sportsmen. Werent in the past even. Nobody was connected to a different culture as I am, even more part of it than of their own lineage. I feel like a stranger to my own, close DNA. Even though racial, immigration lore tells that most people dont integrate. That they regress to their own culture.

So I wonder what kind of subtle neural programming I went through. 4chan is probably already one giant CIA op to indoctrinate kids since 2005 or whatever haha.

When was the last time fedoras or larpagans removed kebab?

while the universal approximation theorem
states that NN every function can be modeled
in does not guarantee that we can find that model.

deep learning = bag of tricks & massive hype

Didn't you say you were going to leave if we kept bashing faggotry?

The Lord Jesus is more Holla Forums than Holla Forums

TEST

I'm agnostic-atheist, I.e. I reject special-snowflake "who dun did it" religions like paganism with xyz gods and Christianity with "teh one true god", but recognise that there's clearly more than just the immediate tangible material world that underlies human expression. Hyper-materialism reduces everything down into worthless and meaningless arrangements of matter or firing synapses. It is the complete death of human expression and culture. The complete rejection of the human spirit that animates us.

And is there any inherent value to this faster communication or technology in and of itself? Technology should be used as a means to an end to facilitate human expression and give us greater insight into the human condition. Look at the type of society we live in today. It's full of degenerate consumerism, brand-worship, and other trivial garbage that degrades humanity and our race, and reduces all of us down to our primal animalistic urges of immediate gratification and gluttony.

The Turing Test doesn't measure or quantify "humanity" or "consciousness", it just describes a point at which a person is unable to tell the difference between talking to a person and a machine. Mimicry and algorithms to regurgitate previously assimilated responses is all that's needed.

Or you will create some machine that closely mimics and mindlessly regurgitates depending on algorithms and stimuli. As it stands, the singularity where true consciousness and creativity is achieved, is just an imaginary thought experiment.
Here again with the reductionist bullshit to worthless synapse pulses. Nothing has value. Everything is just a bunch of meaningless matter arranging itself in meaningless shapes.

That's the problem with a lot of the "LOL CHRISTCUCK" shitposting on here. If you actually take a look at the guy in question beyond obvious bullshit spewed by rabbis who hate His guts, you'll find that it equates to calling Hitler a kike and someone who said they were good people we should all pay forever.

Christ did not like the fuckers who became the modern kikes (A.K.A. the Pharisees), not one bit. This is a guy who decided the best option to seeing them kike up a temple was to whip them until they scurried away like rats, non-chalantly told them they were going to hell for being massive cunts, and had no qualms about fucking their shit up at every turn. There were plenty of reasons and opportunities to be quiet and let them kike it up unchallenged, for the purposes of biding time or not getting into too much danger, but Christ decided He didn't give a shit and went after them in the open repeatedly. That was probably the main reason they managed to off Him, due to being reckless like that, but being the Son of God and therefore not giving a flying fuck about death does afford a lot more confidence and eagerness than most would have.

Also, it's important to note that the Jews of the Bible who followed God's word devoutly, and the kikes of old and today who think Christ is boiling in shit in hell forever because they're that rectally-ravaged even now are two very different camps, and one very-clearly didn't survive the eons. It's entirely-reasonable going by behavior patterns to assume that the kikes offed their kin who didn't go with the kikery gameplan first, and then thoroughly-scrubbed any and all record of it so they'd be able to claim all of Judaism for themselves, before moving on to fucking up the goyim by claiming to be the holy people.

As for the "But Christ was a Jew!" bit, the concept of "blending in with the locals enough to not make everyone freak out even harder than they already will when you do miraculous shit" doesn't seem to register much. Considering the conscious entity in question is a branch of another, bigger conscious entity with no defined form and a demonstrated ability to appear however the hell He wants, it's fair enough that the primary emissary of the creator of existence would at least try to look normal when picking His human form. That is, before busting out the holy magic to fuck up kikes and thereby setting off every alarm bell possible for kikes, but the initial element of surprise is good to have.

The most damning evidence I can think of off the top my head regarding Christ and kikes not being on the same side is the fact that they openly hate Him, and I mean fucking abhor the guy. From the surface-level shit they tell anyone who's not a complete goy "Jesus isn't the messiah, fuck that", to the deranged scribblings in their precious Talmud which clearly state that Christ is in hell in a boiling pot of shit and piss (as noted above), they absolutely can't stand Him.

The only reason kikes push Christianity is because it's something they can bend and warp to suit their needs. Most people won't dig into a Bible all the way through and really try to comprehend it, thanks to kikes pushing ADD into commonality with mass media, and that allows plenty of room for them to be led astray with kike and good goy lies. And, at the same time, they've figured out how to D&C Christians and kids of Christians who don't like the religion much after growing up with the bullshit version.

The plan kikes are using to D&C Christianity using both good goyism and atheism is actually pretty ingenious, despite being insidious as fuck:

What does modern Calculus look like to the Pythagoreans?

It didn't look like anything, because those stones in the pyramid are placed some distance above the level where Pythagoras was at.

That is where we are now. My expressed opinions are inductions as to where we are headed, if I played the mindgame for the moment of "What would modern Calculus look like from the vantage-point of a Pythagorean?" It's a similar question, I think, to the relevant question: "What would a strong AI look like from the vantage point of a student of deep learning?"

The more we cut away at the brain's secrets, the less hiding places there are for souls and spirits. Eventually, they'll have to be entirely redefined in software, or information, or system state terms rather than ethereal terms, lest they be cast away like the horse in the age of horse-less carriages.

You must have me confused with some other faggot. Bash away!

This.

It is not meaningless. Is the arrangement of hydrogen, oxygen, carbon, and nitrogen in C4 is meaningless?

Those arrangements, which represent the form and function of our bodies, brains, and even ideas (because our minds are computational devices), are not meaningless and worthless. If anything, casting them to the side in favor of metaphysical, or as you say:


*would* be rendering them meaningless and worthless in your consideration of them!

It does precisely that! The inherent value is that it makes whatever our goals are much more easily attained. For most mentally fit individuals, that usually means longer survival and more masterful influence over their local environments.

Technology is such that its evolution is like the evolution of a claw in a subspecies: if it conveys more survival advantage, it spreads unabated until superseded by a superior tech.


That is not the fault of technology. Human evolution also brings faults. The advantage which gives niggers a better chance against malaria also gives them sickle cell anemia. Evolution upgrades swords, and nature's swords are double-edged. The degeneracy gets selected against, eventually, because degeneracy fails to strive for a long-term and widening survival and propagation. This is a universe of limited resources, and the less degenerate will become more capable of commandeering these resources from the unevolved degenerate.

So of course in a highly connected society, where only 1 man needs to farm to feed over 30, where some satiating bullshit is a button press and half-second away, of course you're going to get blobs. Just like pre-tech, you got all the problems that come with slower messaging, or strictly one-way messaging, etc.

We can and do plan for things based on what we want and what we see as best for us. What is best for us is to continue building this massive structure, this machine that is scientific and technological knowledge, because if we don't and decide that "for the best of humanity" we stop developing tech, we will be beat by someone else. The bans on human gene manipulation and human cloning will have put us behind China and other well financed nations with no such qualms.

Evolution doesn't accept prayers. Evolution only demands that you act according to your environment and instincts.


You are correct that the Turing Test doesn't measure consciousness. However, it's erroneous to say they have little to do with each other. In mathematics, just like in circuit theory, if you can construct a system which takes the same inputs and gives the same outputs as some black-box system… what's the difference? The only thing that matters is that the simulation is detailed enough so as to be indistinguishable from the original in important ways.

We do this in math all the time when we say 2+3 == 1+4, or substitute one circuit with a "terminally-equivalent" one.

You better be careful about defining "real consciousness" in ways which make it unattainable by a sufficiently powerful classical computer: you just might define it out of your own grasp too (and lose face and the argument).

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What is "mindless?" When we are toddlers with finger paints, our drawings appear to be quite mindless, following very un-complex paths to make overly simplistic drawings. Being association machines, we tend to put into pictures things which relate to a central idea. As a toddler/child, those ideas are not very likely to be complex beyond "It's a sunny day, and it's warm, and there's me and mommy, and mommy makes me happy and I make mommy happy, which makes the sun happy and warms up the world!" That sounds like Tay.ai v3 or 4 in about a decade to me.

Our art becomes much less "mindless" as we use feedback from the process, the results, and our environment to hone and improve. We "deep learn" how to draw realistically. We undergo a cybernetic feedback loop of plan ==> perform ==> observe results ==> plan revision ==> perform ==> … etc etc etc. You can't say we don't, lest you wish to assert humans are blind, or stupid, or unable to act in a controlled manner (which would all be absurd assertions).


It is not reductionist bullshit when I remind spiritualists like you that your "meta-physics" are all in your head, all of the rules of which descend from the most fundamental mechanics of the universe. The mind isn't "worthless" and "useless," just as the spiritual teachings aren't either, it's just that they have no primacy. They have no existence outside the universe; outside the mechanical laws which govern the particles and their motions. This does not mean it is worthless. As flabbergastingly complex mechanical-particle systems, with a capability of observing the even more massive system around us and acting based on those observations, who persist in time by assimilating other structures of particles to replace structures internal to us which have broke down, to maximize our existence and spread we must adhere to the natural progression of this system. Those who adhere better may not themselves spread faster, but they will survive longer and increase influence as they will be able to deal with the fast-spreading degenerate plagues.

I don't get why spiritualists must reduce something so massively and absurdly complex and powerful as the universe down to "just matter" and then subscribe to some magic other-world, "more than just matter" bullhockey to plug the holes you create. Whereas I have the building blocks to a strong AI I do not know how to build yet, and I have the long-term trend on my side, all you have are "you currently lack answers to questions" and "it's obvious there's more than the physical (because current year)."

I don't expect to win you over. I intend to merely stem some of the current of support that may go your way from fence-sitting lurkers.

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JPEG is cancer.

PNG masterrace!

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*slow clap*

Congratulations. You get it.

Now do your research and show the rest of the class how all of the subversion within the Catholic. Anglican, and Presbyterian churches is carried out by Jews pretending to be Christians, and the pope and others are in blatant violation of their church's actual doctrines regarding homosexuality, tolerance, and kikes.

When will we finally gas them?

that's fucking hilarious

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Christ Is Risen

This is proof that you don't belong here.

Lol.

Lol.

And your understanding of Christian war is totally off, just as I would expect from a Christcuck who got all of his education in Sunday school before being molested by the priest.

This is incorrect. Francis adheres to all church doctrine and dogma. He is in fact a perfect Catholic.

Kikes today act exactly as kikes in the old testament did. Their religion doesn't matter. What matters is their race. They are inbred mongrel sandniggers, so it really doesn't matter if they are or are not the same Creed as some other kikes, since their problem comes from their existence, not their beliefs.

Incorrect.

islam didnt exist back then you dum dum

Put a fedora on the left and you have yourself.

Christ was Jewish. Full stop.


gotquestions.org/was-Jesus-a-Jew.html