Contraceptive Pill and Population Control

Holla Forums, do you think the pill is designed not only to prevent women from getting pregnant, but to prevent them from wanting to get pregnant?

My girlfriend came off it due to health issues it was causing and her personality has changed completely. Before, she used to be unemotional and never wanted to have kids. Now she's came off it she's a lot more emotional (she describes it as turning the emotion setting from 10% to 100%) and she REALLY REALLY REALLY wants kids.

This got me thinking. Women won't come off the pill unless they want to have kids but they won't want to have kids without being off the pill. The primary method of contraceptive for the majority of whites in the Western world prevents people from wanting children, not just having them.

Could this be a huge factor in the declining birth rates? Women don't want kids because they're coked up on a contraceptive? It's not just a matter of birth control, it's a matter of thought control.

This scares the shit out of me, Holla Forums.

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Contraceptive pills have a 6% failure rate. This actually leads to more babies due to more careless recreational sex.

It's entirely possible. It's already been proven that birth control changes the types of men women are attracted to.

Women on BCP are attracted to men with similar genes to their family members (I kid you not).

Only a society of imbeciles (or one run by money hungry Juden with an agenda) would think that completely inverting the natural hormonal balance of the body with synthetic crap could be good for anyone.

religious seem against contraception, they might be onto something

the real tinfoil concern i have is sterilization

Is sterilization acceptable after more than three children?

6% failure rate statistic is basically made up by companies. It's when women stop taking their pill and make excuses.

Like I know a guy who got "oopsed" twice and doesn't realise it. Neither of the kids are well looked after and one is severely autismoid and is fucking batshit.

Just be aware of the fact that the pill fools the body into thinking it's permanently pregnant.

Now you know why things happen the way they do.

Pills fool their bodies into thinking it is pregnant so they become very meeky and suck at sex or choosing the mate. I am not on the contraceptive pill.

Oh darn you beat me to it.

Considering how susceptible the mind is to the influence of drugs, it's unimaginable that the attitudes and behaviors women aren't profoundly influenced by a drug that has them permanently pseudo-pregnant. I don't even like having more than two espressos before noon because it leaves me feeling antsy and frenetic. What would the male equivalent be to a woman on birth control? A powerful sedative? Castration?

I can confirm at least from anecdotal experience that many women experience profound psychological and behavioral changes as a result of going off the pill. I remember one who was like, "Great, now that I actually can get pregnant, I'm so horny I could fuck a homeless guy!" And I've seen the corollary where a girl goes on the pill and her sex drive plummets.

The issue is so ubiquitous that it's fair to say we're no longer anywhere near baseline normal unadulterated human sexual relations. It's in the water supply man.

Yes.


Not to mention that there is a very real attack on all cultures on every level from every direction.

Sex is now seen as a release. It is no longer a function for procreation. Its mutual masturbation.

What? That is going to mess men's hormones up. It is never meant for men. Oh geez I can imagine that the men having boobs and are weak. Gross.

50% of danish men grow tits these days. So there is something in the water and food..

The female cycle does in fact alter mood and interest of women. Women are the most horny, want to have sex when being fertile. The idea of becoming impregnated is in fact something women turns on when sexual aroused.

The changing balance of hormones does not very subtly change the personality of women. The pill has been designed to alter that balance not only to render her infertile, but also to change her sex drive.
A gynaecologist explained to me, that depending on the composition of the pill a women might experience higher or lower sex drive, that gynaecologist and the pharmaceutical industry try to prescribe, create anti-conceptional pills which don’t make women horny.
So while the pill was designed for sexual intercourse without consequences, it also does reduce the interest of females into it; sterile and neutered.

Interesting thing I read, that semen contains properties making the female orgasm more lasting and satisfying, if applied in the vagina of course. Personal observation is, the cervix lowering down to the tip of the penis is quite a sexy experience, like her uterus trying to suck up the semen.
Surprising, our nature makes us to want to have babies, who would thought that.

No the chemistry is sound they work and also the reason why men's pills havn't come out yet has as well to do with the chemistry not getting into that, its also the reason why the 60s happened. And from that all the bad shit which has come out of women not being forced by their biology to make ethical decisions.


Yeah while not widely known birth control pills will effect a woman's hormones permanently. Conspiracy or just pushing pills, it is doing terrible damage to the White race throughout the western world.

That would truly be Machiavellian. Who would do such a thing?

Problem with these pills is they're synthetic hormones.
And hormones influence behaviour.

There's been little in the way of long term study of these kind of drugs and their long term effects on the body and mind.
Suffice to say the water retention alone can't be good for em.

Pills should honestly be banned. Even when I was a leftist retard I still couldn't fathom how people could be so retardedly cavalier about shovelling drugs over and over into young girls' hormonal systems (that often aren't fully developed), you really have to be delusional to think it isn't going to have massive effects or that you could possibly know all of them.

And no I don't give a shit if it "helps your cramps" or your acne

Pill and implants should be 100% illegal, ambivalent about other contraceptives

Oh yeah you didn't know?
A lot of the synthetic hormones go right through you. Along with other chemicals that mimic oestrogen.
xenoestrogens they're called.

Problem with these is they're very difficult to filter out of water. Requiring a lot of specialised and expensive infrastructure to do it effectively.
So generally speaking they aren't.

What this means is that these chemicals get dumped into rivers, the ocean, etc. And then make their way into other peoples drinking water and so on. Hell they even change the sex of fish in rivers. Shits whacky.

The BBC did a panorama episode on it years back

Not permanently, I had been on the pill before so when I got off, my moods return to normal.


For the white women only. If they need the birth control then it must have a medical reason to use them.

Funny I was about to say the same thing about trying to ban a drug

Well. We don't know what long term damage has been done internally.
And would you even notice personality shifts?

So you've birthed healthy children? no mental disorders, or other degeneracy, miscarriages, do you know if you are barren?

Yeah I've heard the libertard arguments before hurr durr legalise muh heroin, nothing new thanks

The male equivalent is anabolic steroids.

Yeah I've heard the cuckservative arguments before hurr durr banning drugs works that's why there is a heroin epidemic.

Yea they made me feel angry and felt my thought are alien to me instead of being meeky and peaceful. I don't know why but I think it is because of my irregular period


Okay I can accept that.

I have not give a birth or have a sex yet but I wanted to have four children one day.


I haven't tested myself to find out that I am infertile. What a scary question.

Well you should definitely get yourself tested to see if you're barren or not.

Better now than after trying to have a child with some poor fella for a few years.

Aside from the effects on birth rates, the pill has a huge effect on female hormones and the very thought of young girls messing with their hormones and nobody even caring about this is frightening indeed. It means that the women we know are fundamentally different from the women our grandfathers knew. Imagine every boy took roids and nobody would even care.

Oh, shut up. If there were men worth getting married to and bearing the child of, maybe we'd want your kids. Who wants to bear the spawn of a numale? No one. You guys are fucking trash and manchildren. Men don't even care about more than vidya and random hookups until 26. If I want a husband the same age as me, wouldn't that mean I couldn't even think about seriously dating until 26? Oh, yes it would. So how about you frail, spindly little faggots put down the cawadoody and locate your nuts? Ask yourself: why should any woman want to birth your children?

If you want to see what women want in men, read some fiction targeted to women, I guess. Usually you find protective, assertive, leader-like men who are gentle but firm with women.

That is false. The pills work perfectly. Morons skipping pills or taking them whenever they feel like rather than on a schedule causes "failures."

Okay, what if I am infertile? Is there a cure for that? I don't mean to be rude but you make me frightened.

Depends what caused it and how bad it is.
But generally? No. No fix.

Reduced fertility can be addressed with drugs.
But if you're barren, you're barren. Best start chatting to your mother and sisters if you have any about egg donation.

Taking birth control and not had sex, strange if true, how were you goaded into taking it?

Parents? Doctors? I know there is a lot of things younger girls have to go through in these times that men aren't as mad at because they don't know, such as the HPV shot.

yeah that's the permanence but I only see it happening after decades of chicks being on the pill

So if you actually wanted children, you'd just marry a 26 y/o.

The truth is these women are feminists and on sex steroids, and don't want marriage or children.

I don't want to marry an older guy, I want a guy my same age. It's weird and creepy to marry older men. I have ALWAYS been attracted to guys my own age. But they're all fucking around in bachelor mode and hedonistic indulgences now. Men of the last generation and all before that were starting families by 20, 22. Now men think dating is a joke.

I am 22 and want to get married, but there are no women that wants to get married at 22 because they only want to fuck around with useless idiots and niggers on "party vacations".

Yes I'm sure they work right into the hands of those who push them. A shame so many lineages will be cut short because of it but that's nature.

Women don't know what they want at the end of nowadays and the myriad of contraception out there makes their little brains think they have choices. When really a Woman's clock is always ticking no matter what she does, men have time and can wait a generation, that's biology.

tick, tack, tick, tack, tick, tack, tick, tack

They aren't really contraceptives. Thats a euphemism. They're actually abortive pills. It doesn't prevent conception, what it does is prevent the build up of the uterine lining so that the fertlized zygote can't be sustained. Women who take oral contraceptives might be having an abortion every month.

Needless to say that 6% failure rate just ends in another method of abortion.

It's very common, not creepy at all, for a woman to marry a man a few years older. I'm sure that if a woman actually wanted marriage and children, and not excuses to keep living irresponsibly, it's a pill she could easily swallow.

I don't think that's a good idea as it can lead to familial struggles so I rather to receive the egg donation from outside of my families because it is important to keep the family united and strong.

That sound forceful, my mother took me to doctor to treat my acne but I don't like it so I told my parent that I don't want to be on that so they let me off but I used them when I go abroad.


Easy, I was very religious at that old time and made myself look ugly so I don't attract the attention from the boys too much because I believe it is sacred and important to remain virgin. Today, I still believed it is sacred.

Don’t panic, female period is quite robust and will swing back after some disturbance.


Machiavellian is rendering women infertile by inducing an auto-immune-reaction by “inoculation”.

There's nothing wrong with a 22 year old wanting to marry a 20 year old woman. But a woman doesn't have to get married to someone that is 5-10 years older than her..

Now I am little bit relieved now so thank you.

Primarily because there's no reason to get married.
You can't financially support a family these days, you can't get a home, you don't have any stability in your life because modern society hates stability and the overwhelming majority of women are vile bloodsucking monsters with no concept of loyalty or desire for a family life.

For men these days getting married is a huge risk that is most likely going to go horribly wrong.

No you idiot its not.

Period is a seperate thing from fertility.
You can be barren but still have a regular period.

A woman can also be fertile but have an irregular cycle

My backstabbing rich girl cunt of a fucking hipster whore was in pills. Then she went off. And her body went back to normal. She became horny again. HUMAN again, except for the marijuana and feminism… she might of become who she really wanted to be. She killed her soul and gave into feminism. Now she lives with a gay man pretending to be straight and has no sense of the reality or person that could of been.
Drugs are poisen.
Poison is OK if you want to confront your dark side like Odin or Jesus did. But it's not OK for young people killing their NATURE in order to be part of the Abrahamic Matrix

Never allow women to choose anything. They always choose wrong


They love death because they're like silly murderous children

Point being: It killed her feminine instincts for Communist biological control.
yet niggers breed like filthy bugs

I can only speak for myself and the guys I've talked to about it but I believe men are driven by incentive. The quality of women that I see in my life is shit. None of them are virgins. The good ones (~1%) are taken or already married. If women started behaving like good chaste loyal women then guys would be getting married left and right. It would also help by fixing the divorce courts, dominant aggressor laws, etc.

It's actually amazing to me that women have managed to become so shitty and horrible that men have overcome their strongest urge and instinct they have in life, and prefer playing video games. That's a fucking achievement.

Also doesn't help that women are just chasing after Chad Thundercock (typically not marriage material either) and it's not like he's going to want to settle down when he has the option of just fucking these women forever.

Women are lustful for power and social influence, but also sexually aroused by submission as nature intended. The resulting pscyhosis manifests itself as a bloodlust to torture and kill, but more importantly to exercise power over, people much weaker than themselves. "My body, my choice" is a masturbatory bloodlust; having the power of life and death over her children, a woman relishes in the power to choose death

True but it's hard to predict when I want to get impregnate by my mate so that means I need to have more sex but that is perfectly fine for me as I can make my mate very happy or will I mess his sex drive up?

That is meant for

That is very forceful, they don't put men on it for acne yet. I've heard of them doing that and that it sort of works but its really just stopping natural processes. I guess any reason they can find to get someone started and then this chick will stay on it throughout puberty onward and slowly become lost.

Ah well you'll do fine if you a capable family structure around you to socialize with, but sounds too me like virtue signalling

But we were discussing period altering hormone cocktails. For a women to become pregnant, the balance of hormones have to line up. Women can become temporary infertile by physical stress, sickness, malnutrition etc. and still become pregnant after health is restored.

It makes no sense to marry an older man, given that women live on average longer than men. If anything, the rational choice is a younger man, so you will live to about the same age.

Why is it the obligation of women to push for children? It takes two. You NEVER see men wanting to have a family. Once in a while you still see women who think about how many kids they want and what they would like to name them. You NEVER see men like this. Men are angsty little whiners who only want to play vidya gayms now. They act like preteens into their twenties. How about a man who is enthusiastic about wanting to make babies with a woman? Men don't even mention it because they think natural processes are icky. They're children. Nothing would turn me on more than a man who said he wanted to impregnate me. That literally is never, ever said anymore, never, men pretend women don't even have those body processes. Even when they ask, "Did you take your birth control pills," they do it in a whisper like it's dirty and forbidden, like they don't even want to think about the subject. And why would I want to have a kid with the modern man, some mid twenties underemployed comic-con going, pudgy lump of failure and immaturity? I'd rather rip my ovaries out than have children with something like that. You talk about biology, how is this for biology. Women are attracted to winners. We're attracted to strong, protective providers. We're attracted to confidence. Modern men have NONE of these qualities.

Most of these 22-year-old women will be trash when they're 32 as well. There's little to wait for.

Why do you want that, did the media tell you it was desirable? Marriage between people of the exact same age being the norm is a recent invention.

No they just don't want me to be bullied in school.


Nah, you are not virtue signalling at all. I have a stable and tightly knitted family. My parent are still married and happy. :-)


Really? There is a lot of sick people that are able to fall pregnant. Look at the Africa. They have many ballooned up starving nigglets.

This is absolutely incorrect. I know people who support a large family just fine on 30k a year household income. Protip: you are getting wants and needs confused. A kid does not require an iProduct from age 2, piano lessons, lavish summer camps, organic food blessed by a shinto priest and transported down the holy ganges river by twelve virgins, a kid doesn't need a five bedroom house with a perfectly manicured lawn, a kid doesn't need 100 a week allowance, a kid doesn't need every single thing it ever asks for and all the newest games available.

Just let me say I'm a personal finance fanatic and you absolutely can support a kid even on a shitty 15/hr job with no problems if you simply smarter than the average nike-wearing iPhone-buying wasteful nigger.

You're making excuses, bad ones.

If you want to know when you're fertile, get some of your sexual secretions between your fingers. If its sticky and globular, you're not ovulating. If its long and stringy, and you can seperate your thumb and finger and have a long string of fluid, you're ovulating and now is a good time to be impregnated

There's nothing wrong with having sex often in a marriage. You're not going to mess up his sex drive.

Well ok you can financially support a family if you live in a hovel, wear rags stolen from a homeless man and feed them heavily processed and medicated food that will leave them incapable of forming a coherent sentence.

Da fuq??? You never see men want to have kids here in cucked America, but thats because men know the score on kids in current year… Men used to want kids, but there is now so much control handed over to cuck state with regards to children, that children have become liability instead of asset.

Let me ask you this, you mgtow faget.

A man and a woman are in a relationship, and now they're 6 months in and still going strong. They're even talking about marriage. Is it okay for them to have sex?

A woman starts dating typically at 16. Even if they only had sex with men they were together with for at least 6 months, how many men could they fuck by age 22? 12! The answer is 12!

There is a difference between a non-virgin and a slut. A slut hooks up with random men and niggers at clubs and parties, and probably has diseases. A non-virgin was once in a serious relationship that later fell through.

Once again proving purityfags are retarded.

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These days, more men than women want to marry and have children. More women than men want "personal space," nights out with friends and consider their hobbies important. And those men desire a family despite the burden a family places on a man to provide and despite biases in the legal system.

Nu-males are a problem, but let's not pretend that the modern woman is great marriage material.

Oh please, here in current year it is normal for a woman in her 20's to have had 100+ partners. Now days 12 is practically virginal.

Because I have always been attracted to guys my own age. I'm on Holla Forums, do you think me unaware of the kike media machine? As a kid I only watched anime anyway, no jews control that. Anime always has younger women with older men, and it has always repulsed me.

Unless you're arguing that marrying a 12 year old girl against her wishes because your parents worked out a business deal is normal, you can stop with the historical bullshit.

No because its likely that they still don't get married and we all know divorce skyrockets as number of premarital sex partners increases.

Actually everytime a woman get jizzed inside of her body absorbs the DNA and saves it, assuming that it might come in handy later. This is an evolutionary adaptation to increase the genetic diversity of her spawn. There can often be leakage between the DNA stored in her body (including her brain) and the child. Nobody knows exactly how or why but we know it happens and has been observed in other animals. We've found multiple different copies of Y-DNA in women's brains but no researchers have the balls to state the obvious.

Another function of women absorbing DNA is to make her more like her husband. IE a woman literally becomes one flesh with her husband. Every man who she fucks becomes her husband.. And you wonder why women are crazy?

Are you retarded? Learn how to stretch your money. Christ, whites used to be good with austerity and thrift, and now you all act retarded like you can't imagine food can cost less than $12/lb.

That's a fantastic advice! Where did you learnt that from? I am curious.

Good because there was some threads about the fapping too much is bad as it can kill the sex drive so I wrongly assumed that having too much sex is bad too.

So instead of addressing that the government has too much power, you just accept your fate? Sometimes I think you deserve to die out.

the demonization of anabolic steroids benefits the ((healthcare industry)).

I thought nationalism was all about "Blood and Iron" and not about babble around chemicals.

What is this nonsense thread? Why are we not talking about how to arm the people and create a revolution?

It isn't difficult to start a large family and there are some countries that are cheap enough to support the large families for long time. People need to learn to be frugal and strict so they can become successful families.

You seem simultaneously aware but influenced by it.
What you're saying wasn't common and even after it stopped almost completely women still married older men. Look at the 1800s average age for a woman being married was 20, average age for a man was 26. Funnily enough that's exactly what you're complaining about.

hhehehe i bet you dumb goys dont know what the actual hormone is heheheehheheh ima go to europe and get a hold of some because those dumbfucks havent banned it yet

Aye and on top of food you got taxes, taxes, more taxes, bills for heating power water and more, mortgage repayments, the inevitable loan because you had to get something or pay for something (a car or something for the house)

And this is just the stuff that will kill you or get you thrown out of your home if you don't cover it.
You'd actually be shocked how many western nations will have your home condemned if it isn't hooked up to water or power for a prolonged period of time.

Just have sex as you please, both, but don’t push him “come on stud, it’s time to make a baby”. Male hormonal balance can be fucked up as well by stress hormones, creating a “fight and flight” reaction, no arousal. If stress persist for a long time, job or in relationship he might loose his sexual interest.

I agree with that for the most part. I'll be the first to say feminism ruined women. They can still be turned around. You would be surprised how much a woman is willing to change for a man she admires. Find one that isn't too corrupt and hasn't yet gotten fat and tattooed, yes there are plenty left like that, and mold her. Thing is, YOU need to be admirable for this to work. Strong, confident, caring, protective. And women should be caring, modest, hard working, and attentive.

Yet that isn't what you said. You said you wanted a virgin, nay, would ONLY accept a virgin. Now you move the goal posts. Which is it?

I hope you're being facetious

Fapping too much is bad because you're essentially getting sex on demand and fooling your body into thinking that you've been successful in mating when you haven't been. You can also cause yourself to have problems maintaining an erection in actual sex as its so different than masturbation. Obviously neither of these are a problem where the man actually has been successful in finding a wife and is having sex with her.

Its sort of common knowledge. My girlfriend introduced me to it and it checks out. When its sticky, it blocks and impedes the sperm. When its more fluid the sperm can swim easily, so its the body facilitating impregnation. You'll also find that you're more sexually aroused

So two people in love and seemingly going to marry should…just not have sex at all for at LEAST two years to the legal age of majority, and usually then they don't get married until they graduate college, so you want two hormonal people in love to not have sex while being in a relationship for 6 goddamned years. Protip: not even amish have that much self hatred. You seem to lack common sense. Only a minority of people even on the chan know that chart, you think some stupid teenagers are not only going to be aware but prioritize life advice from an internet chart rather than what feels natural to them? Self denial of sex with someone you love is unnatural and is a form of self hatred and deprivation. We are designed to fuck people we fall in love with. Even muslims, even amish do this. You have a twisted view of reality if you think asking a couple to just not have sex for six fucking goddamned years is reasonable.

The last woman I met failed to mention that she was married on the first date…

So yeah, Im kinda in a "i give up" place on commitment.

My gf doesn't use it because I told her it's probably a bad idea in the long run since it fucks with the hormone balance so that you can't get pregnant. The pill is mainly estrogen which is carcinogenic so it could increase your odds of getting cancer in the long run. Sadly it is way easier to sell using the pill than selling the idea of not using it because the pill allows you to fuck everybody and it takes away symptoms during PMS so short term it makes you feel good and people dont think long term especially women.

let them marry and not break up. thats what im doing with my gf. we started dating when she was 15 and we've been together for 4 years. we're technically not married but we agreed a long time ago and i enforce it with an iron hand

If they get married, sure. Why the fuck can't women wait to have sex? They did that shit before, why is it some kind of impossible standard now?


Yes, goy, you do all the work. Improve yourself so that you're one of the top 10% of go- guys and then marry one of these whores who have been jumping from Chad to Chad. Women can't help it, after all, they're poor victims of the patriarchy and they need you to rescue them.

I'm not the one with a twisted view. Perhaps you should stop being a slut.
Kind of weird that you think that it takes 6 years to get married.

its really fucked up that we have to live like this but its impossible for young people to get married. our family's wouldn't allow it and i cant support her yet. cant even support myself

Nice information. :-)


Please elaborate on fight and flight reaction.

How do I make him less stress? Massage him with the hot stone while making a funny joke to make him happy?

Should I let my mate suck my tits? I heard that they can deepen the relationship and making the bond unbreakable. I don't know if that's true.

What is the men's favorite sex method?

then add the fact that you have to keep her sexually satisfied or you run a big risk of her cheating, which you have to prevent by occasionally beating her and letting her know that you'll kill her if she fucks up, because "i love you baby lets be together always" doesnt mean shit when yall never have sex and there are a dozen other suitors on either side

You're neglecting the fact that people use condoms until they are with someone they can "trust", usually a longer term relationship. Aaand your narrative falls apart.


Yes user! Haha, I've actually calculated that I can live on 20k a year after tax without children, and on average would make 50-70k in my line of work. Assuming my husband has a similar job and lives similarly, we would, as an average working class family, have 60k-100k extra income a year. Basic thrift and frugality. Skills like cooking your own meals, avoiding impulse shopping, and not buying $5 lattes every morning and afternoon. That extra money could both fund retirement and support a healthy family. Of course most modern westerners are wasteful, they like purchasing things they don't need, the men buy vidya on midnight release for $60 a pop and do so at least once or twice a month, the women buy a ton of clothes and overpriced home decor. They all "need" luxury apartments and luxury vehicles and luxury vacations and constant indulgences. The European-descended man is one who embodies, more than any other race, the abilities of austerity and thrift. Consumerism is unnatural and, rather than being an investment in ourselves, "He who buys what he does not need steals from himself." The (((media))) convinced us that constant shopping addiction is normal.

The younger in life the fitter the offspring from the woman, the reason autism rates are increasing has to do women having careers but also wanting children after them. So you get cheaper wages by doubling the workforce and woman living with unnatural priorities, woman in the past who had to scrounge for food would be in survival mode looking after their children alone increases divorce now. The modern individual has no family structure to keep them in check, whereas in the past family's would join houses and both man and woman would have social pressures on them to keep up appearances, they have none now. How many men did your father meet before you did, and did he have a say in whether he would allow such a thing? Women see their offspring as a literal part of themselves so they name their pet, its simple, MEN FUCK WOMEN, that's it, no gushy feelings, fuck and done then provide in the past only if he felt like you were worth it would he not give you the sentence of single mother-hood.

And the last and most important aspect is the economics, there is no major manufacturing in the western world anymore. No steal workers, or car builders for men to build themselves, just clerks with smiles, and we use silly gyms. Women aren't attracted to winners, they are attracted to men from which they can get something from, with birth control they feel they have unlimited options because they can continue to make choices unnaturally. Its just the way the genders work, with our failing economic system put in place by previous generations the cloistered economy where you have to make stuff, has turned into going to Walmart which provides for all, and the system we were all raised in.

Don't worry though the blood that will be spilt will all be for the lady, as it always has been and last time I checked the white man makes the best weapons.

lol yea right condoms suck dude. youre probably bad in bed if she doesnt make you take it off

they dont use condoms they use birth control so they feel empowered to get jizzed in cart blanche by 24 different guys

It's icky. You're literally arguing that anything anyone ever thinks that you happen to disagree with must be a jewish influence. Get your head out of your ass. I even proved I had zero media influence as a child. I read books from the library and watched some anime. For long periods of time we didn't even have cable television, and I ONLY watched anime and a few disney movies, all of which featured younger women and older men together. You say my preference for same age is implanted…from fucking WHERE? Signals from space? It's unnatural to want an older man because you would have NOTHING in common with him and wouldn't even be able to hold a conversation. It makes me want to vomit and cry to think about being married off to a guy 10 years older than me.

You can use condoms (yeah I know kinda sucks) or a spermicide + a cervical cap but thats more work. If then it still goes wrong there is always the morning after pill which is just a strong variant of the birth control pill. In my case I could support a family but I would prefer to finish my master degree first. Btw I hope you are her first that really diminishes the chance of her cheating!

another big part of it is xenoestrogenic pollution. in utero estrogen masculinizes that male brain (fetal male brain converts estrogen into testosterone). too much estrogen = too much masculinzation in the brain. contrary to making children "super-male" it makes the austistic. likewise the estrogen feminizes the male body. so you get autistic boys with tiny dysfunctional genitalia and effeminate bodies

and filtered

It is because today boys learn already in young age that society is stacked against them, they have all the obligations but no security. If a guy marries a gal, he basically signs over a large part of his life income to a women who has no obligation whatsoever, can leave him at moments note, throw him out of his own house, deny him his own children, ruins his chances to ever build a family again.

In my opinion this had been made deliberately, to destroy k-selection strategy families in western world; and women selfishly, short-sightly, self-defeating did fall for it, there are very, very few of them seeing-through-it-and-rejecting-it.

I am glad that my period is irregular.

incredibly important, user. luckily she was. no way i would invest my time/effort in a girl who wasnt a virgin.

Tragic, user. You seem to think money simply slips from your wallet on its own accord.

You have bad taste in women and are too autistic to tell when someone is lying to you.


Okay user. Why don't you go read a biology book sometime?

its difficult as fuck for a young man to start a family. nowadays you have to snag them in highschool if you want any chance of securing yourself a virgin, and then you have to maintain the relationship for 6+ years before finally marrying. do you have any idea how hard that is with no familial support in a feminist world. holy shit we have a mountain stacked against us

Just because a hormone occurs naturally inside of you doesn't mean that increasing the concentration is safe. Look at those trannys who take testosterone and end up getting strokes. cancer.org/cancer/cancercauses/othercarcinogens/generalinformationaboutcarcinogens/known-and-probable-human-carcinogens crtl + f estrogen

I didn't say she has to. But it's still quite common, it has always been common, and if a 20 y/o woman wants a man her own age but can't find one with the right qualities, she should look a few years older. Pro and contra, it's not a difficult decision The idea that it's "creepy" is literally a leftist meme militating against the formation of white families.

It has always been difficult for the man to make it in society because he must fight the other men. Most usually many men don't make it through the battles they had to fight. That is why it is something to be proud of once you do have a prosperous family because you deserved it. If it wasn't stacked against you why would you think it'd be an accomplishment too overcome?

The road is long and hard and their is no end in sight.

This
Also, since the introduction of the pill, we've had a horrific implosion in male fertility
Sperm counts and Sperm health have dropped like crazy over the last few decades

true. its always been hard, hasn't it. thats what makes us men. its foolish to ask why things were better in the old days.

Are my questions too awkward to answer?

And I just explained why. Did you read?

user, is getting a woman off that difficult for you? Women naturally have hormones where having satisfying sex with someone, especially when they lay down together and nap or cuddle after, triggers "love". She will start falling in love with the guy, just from having been fucked well. Get gud? Maybe learn where the clit is.

Actually correlated with the mother and/or father being obese. Yes, the father's state of health also matters, you forget half the kid's DNA comes from the father. If he's aged to the point where his DNA is starting to get threadbare it fucks the kid up just as much as if the mom is aged.


No shit. Name something white people aren't the best at, besides shoplifting and twerking.


In the past being a father meant raising and teaching the kids, giving them a role model and a firm hand, teaching them life skills. You seem not to know that, did you come from a broken home with a cuck beta father? And it's just as I said, men run away from doing their share of the work as a family unit, user has said so himself. Simply throwing money on the table does not a role fulfill. Men need to also help actively raise kids because there are things the mother can't teach the kids, like how to hunt or build or fix things, how to defend themselves and have confidence, about business and money and careers…

Are you retarded, have you read my posts? I am a female. I always make guys use condoms until we're a few months into a relationship. Yes they suck, no shit. I would rather hurry up and have a decent relationship, but am for want of a decent man who is mature enough to want that.

see:

birth control is a huge contributor because it cant be removed from the water supply. the researcher who delivered her presentation at my university first caught wind of this trend as an ecologist looking at fish and amphibian populations in rivers. the males were spontaneously transforming into female phenotypes. that was specifically due to glysophates. her research then led her to studying mice to make a human model. then looking at human populations.

autism and hypospadias are rising big league. thats the phenotype this NEETs display. hypospadias ranges from the urethra exiting along the shaft to complete and total absence of male genitalia. the degree of autism follows suit. by 2020 more than 50% of all boys will be on this spectrum

I don't think this is as big of an issue as the user you're responding to. Most men are going to be taking the lead in sex typically to start with so if you're having to pressure him for sex when you're married its already a worrying sign.
What's women's favorite color? Not really an answerable question as its all about personal taste.

Yea honey don't worry. I know you crave my big alpha cock.

The articles about autism being toxic masculinity and a part of the patriarchy will be amusing.

yea the autistic mice in her experiment were literally NEETs. One interesting thing is even though their genitals were all malformed, their hypermasculine (autistic) brain made them sexually hyperactive. In humans the equivalent would be jacking off to anime all day

that is a known side-effect of these drugs but retards don't like to read about pharmacology.
that is not far off but the male equivalent would be narcotics like strong opioid'/synthetics and barbiturates, they have the same effect on the sex-drive. Since much of the sex-drive on males are driven by pleasure so you can fuck it up by giving them Opioid's as an example, your dick might get hard but you will never cum or you lose interest completely when you think about sexual things.

There is a reason people don't get off diamorphine, morphine, methadone, oxycontin 30mg range and up also there is buprenorfin.
There are many methadone addicts on clinics that gets off it, and they wonder and feel its strange/abnormal getting the penis up in the morning and so on. Usually narcotics with high pleasure, pain killing abilities it dampens both psychological and physiological pain.

The psychological part is a big deal, if one takes sex which do have minor painkilling, abilities and take that to a 80+ on the painkilling and pleasure you have heavy duty opioid

With barbiturates its more like you are so sedated and you have a real high euphoria that you don't have the sex-drive or the need for it.
There are more drugs that can mess with the brain on the sexual interest thing, but these are the easiest to find as an equivalent.

She is a total slut, not sure why people are still responding to her. I unhid her post out of curiosity and she's now talking about having sex with guys she has been dating less than a couple months. People need to stop responding to her.

I mean I also agree with you, user. I think how men get treated in divorce/family court is a huge injustice. But again, what are you going to do, lay down and die because things were made a bit difficult for you?

Um, no, that's how people get diseases.

I also agree birth control and other pharmaceutical contamination of the water supply is a huge environmental and social disaster which needs to be addressed. And you have cuckservatives railing and raging against any concept of basic environmentalism for 40 years and the only representation environmental protection gets is some bunch of whacky drugged-out hippie leftists who by the way want open borders and free housing and education for niggers and spics. That's the real kike move, we know kikes hate the environment, and they have removed environmentalism to be the fringe of the fringe. I absolutely think water contamination is negatively impacting males and needs to be fixed. I see so many guys who are feminine little emotional queers now, who grow mantits and practically have their periods all over the place. It's destroying men, and being a straight female I happen to like men and want to keep them healthy and masculine so I can get a good husband. I'd rather a more simple physical implant like putting the gel in the urethra of men, but for women, than the pill, but due to (((the pharma industry))) blocking all innovation we don't have a choice unless we want to end up a teenage mom like niggers and white trash. If we could put emphasis on progress (technological) rather than kike profits and bureaucracy, maybe we could solve the problem.

So it is women's fault for peeing into water supply from the toilet?


I am talking about de-stressing him, not forcing him to have sex with me. for example, he is having a bad day then no chatty chits so he can have a quiet day or go shower/bath with him. Do you understand me?

Of course I want to be dominate by my mate. Is that wrong? I don't know why I find it sexy.

yea partially. its not just birth control, another huge factor is pesticide and herbicides, but thats more of a ruarl concern. in urban water supplies especially the big killer is women's birth control pee

Pics or didn't happen.

It is natural for men to be dominant. A dominant man is the most arousing thing possible for women.

Massages are nice, also just cuddling up next to each other on the couch is nice. Maybe that's just my own tastes though.
No, that's entirely natural.

…….Oh my goodness, you just melted my heart! That is so adorable. I bet feminists scream at them for being cuddly sexist, did they? :3

I am pretty pleased to know. :-)

True though it affects eggs more than sperm with age, remember balls are creating sperm every day, women live with all their eggs.

That's not supposed to happen but it is a slippery slope the woman sets up to try to trap the man to learn about how much she can get away with. If he proves dumb, she exploits.

Of course, I only said men should fuck women with no gushy emoticons, didn't say after that they leave their progeny always

A father will teach his son the practical knowledge he knows like sparring, money making or delving into science or math but things like confidence and career he must leave up to his son to figure out because, it is very important for a man to figure things out on his own to feel worthy if he does great or to feel terrible.

single mothers baby their children to much, without teaching them skills, thinking they have to teach them confidence and career when the best option is to let them rise or fall and see how the boy deals with his reality

daily reminder that sexual revolution, no-fault divorce and population death-spiral were all caused by the pill. giving women complete control over their reproduction was as big a mistake as giving them the right to vote.

contraceptive pills have no failure rate. it's called baby trapping

That is very good.

They need to be banned. Girls can learn to not have sex until they are married. It isn't difficult thing to do.

Absolutely incorrect. The father can and should teach his son confidence, but it's not an explicit thing. The father simply need model confidence and his son will pick up on it, but it s something the father must do.

To model something is not the same as teaching it. Yeah the father can do a lot to act in a certain way around his son, that's just spending time with activities but teaching the kid how to act confidently would be like forcing the boy into a particular career. He wouldn't have built the groundwork himself and would fail in adding onto it.

What? I described how male role models work in boys, yes the modelling is teaching.

The use of the pill is actually a big factor in divorce rates. Either a married couple starts using it when they didn't before, or stops because they're trying to conceive.

This causes hormonal changes as well as a psychological change in the woman, because a pregnant woman looking for a provider/protector is going to have way different needs than one that isn't. All of a sudden her husband doesn't fit those needs.

Hormone levels go back to normal with a normal pregnancy hormone cycle, but the pill fucks all that shit up.

Ask a girl how her sex life would change if there were no such thing as readily available contraceptives, and every instance of copulation meant great risk of pregnancy. Then point out that such a time is still within living memory, and that the advent of contraceptives accounts for a great many of the social changes that followed its development.

The look on their faces is absolutely precious, and it betrays the fact they've never thought about it at all. While it sinks in, casually observe that if every time she had sex she was likely to get pregnant, she would probably care a million times more about the quality of the man she slept with, and would find that her present attitude towards profligate sexuality utterly impossible to maintain.

This is perhaps the easiest red pill to articulate, and it works exceptionally well because it brings a woman into the realization that only because of this astonishingly recent chemical development can her present behavior be even remotely tenable. At this point, point out that human sexual psychology developed over millions of years in the absence of contraceptives, and that so many of those archetypes remain in spite of the fact that now that you have contraceptives. Sure, Chad can pump you a million times without producing a baby, and the sex might be super hot, but when no baby shows up you're going to eventually go crazy.

Heh

I have been wondering this myself for months, and have had a lot of trouble finding any research that addresses this question. I don't have time to sort all of the pdfs I have on the topic, but here are three that are somewhat related:

''Reported jealousy differs as a function of menstrual cycle stage and
contraceptive pill use: a within-subjects investigation''
my.mixtape.moe/tsdqdv.pdf

THE CAUSES OF STALLING FERTILITY TRANSITIONS
my.mixtape.moe/qxoazh.pdf

Baby longing and men’s reproductive motivation
my.mixtape.moe/bvpjtb.pdf

My ex lost 10 pounts after she got off the pill. I didn't notice broodyness, but she is healthier and thinner. We switched to diaphragm & counting the days. Best combination imho.

Good post

Look in the mirror toots.

While the majority of Holla Forums hates MGTOW, more and more men are becoming effectively MGTOW.

No worries though. You won't find your übermensch because he never existed. He's like prince charming in Disney movies.

Your comments here are why men don't bother anymore: you have too high expectations and hold all the cards and all the power in law. So we just drop out. You're not interested in committing social, financial, and maybe even literal suicide to fix this. You're only interested in shaming.

Well fuck you lady, I hope you get tricked by an untermensch who hid his 1/4 blackness from you, and you end up having to raise the kid or two you have with him alone.

Women deserve it, after all. Your mothers and aunts begged for this. It's too bad you're the one enjoying it and not them!

What is that?

It's a circular physical barrier that prevents sperm from reaching the uterus. Google it.

I guess we need to encourage them to use that instead of pills to prevent the men from having the boobs.

This shit right here.
I tell you what, when your sex is the one holding this rotting corpse of a societal system together with blood and grit, then you can tell men what they can and cannot enjoy.

Do you think that happens in a vacuum??! Do you think we're going to fulfill your fantasies when the vast majority of you can barely be bothered to reach 10% of ours?

Lady, you are going to be alone for many years until you change your shit attitude. Go for a decent man, but holy shit calling us manchildren will only make us buy more games, cut our work hours, reduce our club expenditures, expand our friends base so we can absorb more Chads into gaming and away from fulfilling you, etc.

Until you either vote for change, or you institute a man tax and we go "Fuck it! Come on in Islam!"

It's not a bad idea, but what if you're taking a moonlit stroll on a summer night and the perfect opportunity arises to have a glorious fuck and neither of you has a condom or a diaphragm? Ideally, something like Vasalgel would be the best solution. No chemical hormonal change, no man boobs, fully reliable birth control, and It's perfectly reversible. Maybe the technology isn't there yet, but if it were, it would be way way better for everyone than diaphragms.

Filtered.

You're preaching to the choir, don't have a go at us over this shit. Fact of the matter is that the Jews have rekt society, Holla Forumsacks are far and few between and in all likelyhood your chances of meeting the man you actually want are far and few between. For fucks sakes, you're what, 26? You should have ~5 kids already by this point. At this rate you're going to miss out on having children at all! For fucks sakes, just pick the next numale you see and permanently marry him then and there. Curse Schlomo for what he did to you every morning when you see the numales pathetic visage by all means, but fucking face reality. We're in the shit as it is, the last thing we need is another white womb going fallow, face reality already and just fucking breed already. At this rate you are going to die childless and alone.

The pill causes a lot of hormonal changes, naturally it changes the personality. That doesn't mean a woman needs to be on the pill in order to be unemotional, or to not want kids. But it certainly fucks with one's normal thinking.

"She's" an anime-fag. Totally acknowledges the media influence, yet is in total denial regarding far-east media.

I put an IQ cap of 110 on this one.

Yes. Same with the xenoestrogens in the water to emasculate men.

I have no sex drive whatsoever. I also have gyno and wider than normal hips. It makes me so fucking furious, and I can’t even escape it because I have to fucking eat food and drink water.
Marry her (if virgin), and give her her wildest dreams.

The race-realist in me says BREED BREED BREED!

The [barefoot] lawyer in me says RUN RUN RUN!

It's so fucked how marriage has turned out…

You’ve proven that you ARE a woman, and you’ve also proven you have no fucking argument, you stupid bitch. Enjoy having a shriveled up cunt at 35 with no one who wants you. Just wait until your body starts screaming at you to have kids! You’ll think yourself a complete failure! You’ll even attempt suicide! Ha!

You deserve this.

The pill fucks with their head but there's plenty of other reasons birth rates are falling.

When I met my partner she had never been on the pill in her life but she still had typical don-want-kids propaganda programmed into her.

Most of the guys I know are exactly the same. Get more excited about a new comic book movie than the thought of starting a family. At 35…

tits or gtfo

Where do you think?

I feel sorry for you. :(

Gyno can be reversed by hitting the gym (awkward) and putting on muscle mass..
It takes a few months and looks worse for a while, but eventually it starts to shrink.
I think i've had a very mild form of it as a teen, it might've been just fat, but it was weird that most of it was located there.

No kidding. Who hasn't heard a that line about not wanting to bring a child into this world because of our duty to save the environment. Its especially bizarre when the women are the ones insisting on this point. The 26 year olds who used to think that when they grew up they would have a family, but now can only conceive of hedonism instead of children. There's not a single woman I know who doesn't follow the same pattern of thought. Children are bad, no fun, and not for me right now because I have all these fantastic things to experience instead.

But you're right, the men are worse somehow. In some respects I don't really blame them given how shitty things are between the sexes, and how devalued and risky fatherhood is, but when young men don't even have an emotional connection to the idea of fatherhood, or reproduction. Like nobody's ever made them connect to the idea. To them it's something probably meaningful to someone, but still totally obscure to them

Women's attitudes to children aren't really a problem, as says, they want a leader and that includes leading them into parenthood. When you make it clear they have to pick between having kids or losing you, they will pick you (in my experience).

I agree


Men like the idea of taking a women like a stud, but don’t like the idea to be milked like a cow. Sex by schedule is a turn off, I guess for women as well, but they don’t need an erection. Still it is not sexy at all to be “inseminated” like a cow and I wonder if fertility problems of couples trying to get pregnant by schedule would resolve if they wouldn’t try to force it, just fuck as it comes.

Adrenalin is a powerful hormone, to much of it at the wrong time or continuously elevated level of it might not only wreck the sex drive.

I didn’t suggest it to be your fault, today, if adrenalin is released it is most likely not because of a visit by a lion or a bear, but intellectual troubles, sorrows, bills, job, exams etc..
Best is the ability to forget (temporarly), not being too intellectual, not trying to think through, being “deep” all the time.
Cuddly or rough sex is just decision of taste and mood.
Men like tits (any size). I noticed that of the women I found sympathetic, attractive I very much liked their smell too. I’ve read that that the pill does change personal smell as well, probably very subtly because I haven’t noticed it.

What is men's favorite food?
Don’t let you deceive by porn, so while men normally don’t talk with other men about porn and even less so with women, those times we, I did we could agree that much of it is just gross.
You need to inquire with your partner and tell him your ideas.

If you are Amish no problem, but it is difficult for your children to learn from other children that you are a “looser”, the press ridiculing poor families as “white trash”, and child protection service questioning you having many children.

There isn't a single man I know short of one who married immediately a rotund woman who wants children. All of them wanted to go to bars and drink. They did this for ten years straight. It isn't just a female issue.

Its an entire race issue. We should stop pointing fingers so much and start fixing the problem. Bring up the JQ and solutions. Men unfortunately have the onus of having to be the leaders because women will naturally follow.

Look at this thread.


This is why nobody takes us seriously.

Thank you for your contribution.

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There is a happy medium:

Keep a ~$20,000 bug-out fund in various forms (partially bitcoin, partially a cash stack or two in places she can't find, etc), and make friends with various business owners in Brazil or Argentina. If she decides to detonate and take the kids and try to get CS/alimony then you detonate your life, leave the country, and never pay her a dime. She needs to know this around the first time things get fairly rocky, so she'll always know she will hurt bad if she tries to do a fuck-job.

It's in the water due to women's piss

washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2015/03/30/fish-dont-want-birth-control-but-scientists-say-they-get-it-from-your-pill/

medicaldaily.com/leftover-birth-control-pills-are-turning-us-fish-hermaphrodites-problem-could-affect-367816

vimeo.com/15346778
The Disappearing Male

why don't we just sterilize all blacks at birth, that would solve population explosions IMMENSELY.

That's about as exciting as putting the noose around your neck, and having your woman stand next to the unlocked release lever. Fix marriage *then* bitch about "manchildren."

Ever been to /lgbt/ ?
They are big on soy and milk and weird roots until they get HRT.

What's more insidious about this is that in the cities the dosage that's found in the water increases.

They can't filter the chemicals out so over time the amount of chemicals in the water builds up due to how the water is reused.

I know many on Holla Forums would call this an oxymoron, but I am both Holla Forums and MGTOW, and greentext expresses why.

I want the family with a proper Aryan (Holla Forums), I just don't want the 50%+ chance of ruination (MGTOW).

Fix marriage, and MGTOW dies due to irrelevancy. "Fix" MGTOW and you still have marriage hell.

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What is marriage? It's a piece of paper that the government uses to control you. Of course it's going to be a shit deal.

You can have life long relationships without the governments backing…

So we need to be looking for high test girls?
What are the sings of high test grills?

I don't think you can anymore. the state will just claim you're like married lol so we have a right to intrude on you.

High estrogen girls you idiot, that's what you want.

Your pic shows one, a slender feminine blonde, blonde is actually a marker of super high estrogen. Of course I think there has to be a balance, I think a lot of the problems come from boys or girls sliding off the scale one way or another in terms of chemical balance.

Law student here, it's sort of true. There's something called common law marriage, where the law recognizes that if you've lived together a long time you are technically married and can now be divorced with financial penalties.

Of course the big penalty is children, that's where the state gets its paws on you.

Ey I'm on not alot of sleep here.
But thanks for the spoonfeeding.

High estrogen girls have a soft rounded jawline (think the opposite of batman jaw), are usually more moody, wide hips, thick lips, larger boobs… low natural muscle mass.

Also tend to be less sexual.

It's a bit of a mixed bag… Titcow is a good example of a high-estrogen woman.

You still need to be smart about things, like not keeping your savings in govt. controlled accounts. They can't take what they don't know exists.

Designed, no, but I think not wanting is a byproduct of preventing them from being able to become pregnant.

The body is so interconnected and many subtleties are unknown to scientists that maybe something like shutting off certain hormones and telling organs to override certain functions can change how people think and change their desires.

yeah, people really need to learn how to hide their assets where grubby hands can't reach them. everyone seems to hate richfags for doing it, but what's the alternative? being at the mercy of other people who have the power to seize your life's work at any moment and relegate you to indentured servitude? hide your shit.

Contraceptive pills work by simulating pregnancy, and obviously a woman has no desire to be pregnant if her body is telling her she already is.

I just can't find flat chested girls attractive, its pretty much impossible for me.

She needs to have tits for me to give a shit.

Proven. See image.
Proven. See links:
archive.is/8z10A
sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0039128X98001147
ndnr.com/mens-health/xenoestrogens-the-assault-on-reproductive-health/
naturalsociety.com/studies-chemicals-in-the-water-turning-male-fish-into-females/
Proven. See links.
REPORTED FOR KIKE SHILL.
REPORTED FOR KIKE SHILL.
REPORTED FOR KIKE SHILL.

DON’T.

Of course they CAN. They simply don’t.

Forgot the image.

Birth control pills are a plague. The worst thing in history to have happened was when a Jew invented birth control.

That is a too strong simplification.
Face form is inherited by the parents, if daddy has the nut cracker jaws of a cromagnon, there is a good possibility the daughter has a more pronounced chin.
Size of breasts is inherited as well, just compare it to her mother, her grandmothers. There are some women with not so gracile face but large breasts and wide hips, as there are women with small breasts delicate face and body.

Can not confirm that, testosterone oestrogen balance in her period does influence it, as well as lower oestrogen when becoming older. Massive testosterone abuse among athletes as well, former female east-block athletes reported how the muscle pills made them horny as fuck but at the same time so ugly nobody wanted to fuck them.

no i mean they really can't from a financial perspective. it would be enormously expensive. what they could do is sound the alarm from the public platform, but that they won't do.

There's no real natural drive to have children. There is a drive to have sex. For the last million years, the baby then took care of itself. But the baby-drive is evolving fast as women who don't have some trigger for it go extinct.


Bzz, wrong. It's an infection of some sort. The twin concordance, even for identicals, is really low… like 0.18, 0.22. Versus adult height or adult IQ, which is 0.75-0.80


It's a good idea but you gotta think about implementation.

You think hormonal profile isn't inherited?

She has similar breasts to her mother or grandmother because she inherited the hormonal profile from them.

receptor density also plays a role

Of course, it would take away your sense of entitlement and imaginary power you think you have.

The problem you have womanon, is you're an entitled cunt. You can't stand the idea that somebody would be better than you. Which is kind of conflicting because it turns you on at the same time.

Also inherited.

not disagreeing with you buddy

copper IUD's are ok

they don't mess with the hormones and are the most effective

Why don't we just kill them instead?

this post is cancer

You know an even easier solution to not getting pregnant.

Not having sex.

Mind-blowing idea huh?

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None of that made any sense. The woman has had sex with 12 men, how is she not a slut?

If you have sex outside marriage, you are a slut. Sorry to break it to you, honey, but any decent society would think you an unmarriageable strumpet. Sadly, 99% of western women are such, so to avoid a bottleneck we'll have to put babies in you and your ilk. But you certainly don't get to make any demands. The only reason you aren't getting strung up in a tree or left to rot in a brothel is because too many other women are also whores.

And getting rid of all consequences for using it will surely help it, right?

Works by introducing an irritating, inflammatory object, cooper is poisonous, if one wants to have children later, probably a gamble.

Was it designed this way? Not sure.

Is this how it functions? Absolutely.

Hormonal birth control works by "tricking" the female body into thinking that it is pregnant. The problem with this is that women behave differently when they think they are pregnant versus when they are trying to get pregnant.

Your girlfriend's change of becoming more emotional and wanting kids make perfect sense. She is more emotional now (since she's acting more like a woman) but she will probably also lose weight and be hornier. Pregnant women aren't as horny as knocked up women.

People are so quick to say "I'm not negatively affected by birth control" thinking the hormones only affect their ovaries, not admitting the body is a put-together system. Then they wonder why they gain weight, feel less emotional, and have a lower sex drive.

Women behave differently when on or off the pill. They literally choose different kinds of mates. A woman who isn't on birth control: when she meets a guy her body chooses naturally, she is attracted to men with very dissimilar pheromones. A woman ON the pill will meet a guy and choose one with more similar pheremones; which IMO still implies she is behaving naturally: if she thought on some subconscious level she were pregnant, but on a conscious level *knew* she had no mate, she would look to men in her tribe to help her–and these men would be her family members. But a woman NOT artificially modifying her hormones would naturally choose the best mate for herself, the one that nature picked for no other reason than she really wants to fuck him. (I would avoid considering LTR for women on the pill when you meet them, but if your gf went on after you met should be fine [in that case, her body would "think" she's pregnant with yours."]

But to answer your question was it "designed" this way…I don't know but it's hard for me to believe (((those)) who could INVENT this didn't forsee any of these side effects, how hormonal birth control coincided with the sexual revolution (encouragement of women to behave, sexually, like men), and the fact that even in very pro-women circles the fact that it affects women in these ways JUST NOW COMING TO LIGHT makes me suspicious.

scientificamerican.com/article/birth-control-pills-affect-womens-taste/
drnorthrup.com/birth-control-pills-and-sex-drive/

Even though most of /pol are a bunch of autists, I love when one of you manages to red pill yourself on something you are generally retarded about, like anything involving women.

Well if a b& doesn't work then there is no reason to keep artificially inflating the price of a commodity and letting people make income without paying taxes, now is there?

Are you actually trying to imply these are bad things?

Except that women on the pill don't choose "Chads." Women OFF the pill choose "Chads"–they are attracted to men almost entirely based on how tingly he gets her. Women on the pill choose mates based on comfort and security, and social proof.

Your opinion about the "quality of the man she slept with" ignores the fact that every woman has several beta orbiters she could have a relationship with. Women are not reasonable creatures and don't judge quality the way that men do. She isn't going to "go crazy" because she didn't have Chad's baby–she's going to routinely sleep with men who she subconsciously believes would help her RAISE Chad's baby. She goes crazy because she never meets her alpha, marries one of her beta orbiters and when she gets off the pill realizes she was never actually attracted to this guy, but omg why did I never notice how hot the gardener is.

user, stop talking to drugged up feminists. Find yourself a nice girl who is into you and use a diaphragm.

This is really the kicker, isn't it. Every generation wants a higher standard of living than the previous one, we want to raise our children better than we were raised. The people I know who do have children have a major shift in values–basically "we will be hippies" living as cheaply as possible, "money isn't everything" which sounds all right, but shouldn't be the *goal.*

Basically I'm ok to live as frugally as possible, but "eat your vegetables" became "go vegan" and now these are the only white people breeding. The value shifted from western ideas of expansion, knowledge, and science, and became "if we can have as minimal impact on the planet as possible, then we can afford children." It's fucking sad.

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show me your ugly tits, you stupid cunt

yes they do, and they're also toxic. destroys the zinc/copper balance. copper poisoning is associated with estrogen dominance and yeast infections (of the entire body)

It also gives you breast cancer, but we can't say that because of the legbeards

I've known two girls that were really more fucked up after being put on them 'for cramps'

But goy…

All prohibition is degenerate

This is the best nutshell of this entire thread.

Give it six months. Hypergamy, dear boy, events…

Medicinal drugs are still legal my friend, your argument is built upon a poor foundation.

So heroin use to be a medicinal drug now its a street drug, I wonder who gets to make that call?

No, heroin has been modified to provide certain medicinal drugs and the street drug is colloquially referred to as 'heroin' with it's purpose intended. The drug addicts and dealers made that call.

Maybe you could just keep your legs shut until marriage?

Is this some kind of titantic, physically impossible task to expect of women?

Was that load of bullshit suppose to mean anything? Are you trying to imply the structure of heroin changed?

jfc.

stop posting and fucking lurk. jfc.

No, it is not, you idiot. That is too little white kids and too much muds.

/r/ link to study

Builtin age limit too.

A man and a woman are in a relationship, and now they're 6 months in and still going strong. They're even talking about marriage. Is it okay for them to have sex?
No.
NO.
I said no.

Kevin Sabet, is that you? The pilpul sounds familiar…

What horseshit. It's over 18.

There was no discussion about chemicals because nobody knew about their importance. Still, that is a very idealized view. There was a lot of talk about a variety of topics.

Sometimes I wonder if trolls are not really trolls, just stupid people which can not define pervasive.

It's *STILL* a medicinal drug. It's called morphine.

It doesn't hurt the recipient because hardcore addiction is not cause by drugs themselves, but by a fucked up life with no joy but drugs themselves.Though, addiction can cause a fucked up life, and that makes it a vicious cycle.

Missing either factor, however, prevents a vicious cycle, and renders the drug safe.

More babies conceived while flooded with artificial estrogen mimickers…. right?

And the estrogen mimicking effects of Fluoride, BPA, Cosmetics, Shampoos, Sunscreens, food additives, etc…

It is interesting, what too much estrogen does to a fetus.

Did I say that mother need to be full employed and put their kids in childcare in countries that aren't expensive? Wew! Don't put that in my mouth, you idiot. Look at the Amish and Mennonites families, they are doing way better than modern families. There is nothing wrong with the simple life, is it?

So long as no-one is actively sabotaging it, No…… of course not.

Dude I kinda agree with them. I am just saying.

That is good so what is stopping us from purchasing the simple life so we can have large families? I love to be a mother one day.

The jews, obviously.

It's a clandestine warfare strategy.

Just because we might give up the tech and live as farmers, doesn't mean they gonna do the same, ya dig?

Yea I dig.

but how else to cummy in mummy without making babby?

There is a guy that said it is possible to have sex with your sweetheart without the pill. It is environmentally friendly and less harmful to the water.

These pills work by making the women's body think it is already pregnant, and therefore won't release a monthly egg while the hormone level is maintained.

This definitely changes a woman's brain chemistry as well, and it's not far fetched that if the women is hormonally "pregnant" the desire to get pregnant and even to hold the man as a necessity any longer is greatly reduced. I've witnessed girls go from 0 to massive bitch within two months of starting oral contraceptives.

The bummy

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Backdoor.

Nationalism is about creating a sustainable and healthy nation above all else, armed insurrection is necessary when that is endangered critically and there is no other option. Revolution, violent or otherwise, is absolutely useless without a sustainable endgame in mind, creating a power vacuum that you have no idea how to fill can only benefit certain (((international elements))), if there is not an endgame to a revolution you are being played by a psyop usually for the purposes of controlled opposition.

Fucking. Duh.

Women's mate selection changes when their body is flooded with synthetic progesterone. In general, a well adjusted fertile woman will seek men who have a tribal similarity to themselves, but not familial. This reduces the chance of inbreeding, even among more distantly related individuals. This attraction is based on three major factors: appearance, pheromones, and antibody signalling.

For anyone who isn't familiar, one of the main evolutionary benefits of kissing is that it allows the exchange of antibodies through saliva, which in turn allows an individual to determine the relative intersection of antibody distribution between themselves and a potential mate. A more robust cross-section of antibodies will generally improve the immune system of offspring, by giving them a greater statistical resistance to pathogenic threats.

Physical appearance signals both health and fertility, in addition to intelligence (Side note: more attractive people are more intelligent, on the whole. This was another reason why the "dumb blonde" and similar stereotypes are so effective at skewing the mate selection process and encouraging miscegenation: if individuals can be put into a false dilemma when choosing potential mates, they are more likely to make poor decisions based on a fallacious "least bad" calculus, instead of simply choosing the person that in purely instinctual terms is the most attractive.), but it also signals genetic relation: if someone looks just like one of your parents, they probably are more closely related to you than someone who simply bears a racial resemblance. Note that oxytocin, the bonding hormone, causes women to favor people who have a closer racial resemblance to themselves: or in other words, another risk from hormonal BC is that because it undermines deeper emotional bonding between women and potential mates, it erodes their natural tendency to seek mates from their own ethnic group.

Pheromones signal both social dominance and hormonal disposition, both of which are pivotal when evaluating the social status, social disposition, and overall health of mates, plus it signals nearness of relation: just like appearance, if someone smells just like your family, they're probably more nearly related to you than someone who does not.

When a woman is pregnant, she becomes more drawn toward family members - this is a way to encourage her to seek support and resources from a reliable source, to maximize the chances of carrying the child to term. Anyone who's had a wife who was pregnant will probably notice that she wants to spend more time around her parents or siblings than she otherwise would.

With a woman who's on hormonal BC, this perverts her mate-selection process (it also fucks up mate-selection for single pregnant women, but that's not as important to this discussion), by causing her to be drawn to men for whom she would otherwise have no attraction at all, as they remind her of her immediate family, particularly in terms of scent.

There is a well known phenomenon that when women who have been on BC since they started dating go off it to have kids, there are often cases where she suddenly finds her husband repulsive, or stops being capable of seeing him as a sexual object, even if they had a semi-healthy sex life beforehand. They often describe the smell of their husbands as intolerable, even if they previously found it comforting. This causes BC to have a "double-protection" effect, since women on BC are physically incapable of reproducing, but women off BC will not be attracted to their current mate. This can result in either cuckoldry, since her reproductive impulses will be stronger with no acceptable outlet, or simple divorce.

Either way, (((they))) win.

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A thousand times this, I am 24, I have a 4 year STEM degree, and I couldn't even support a wife and one child without living fairly shittily. I don't even have college loans to pay off. I certainly wouldn't be able to save anything to move out of my shit fucking apartment, and we'd probably be eating cheap, shit food every day. All I'm trying to do now is save so I can own my own fucking living quarters.

None of this was a problem in the days when you simply had a family farm for subsistence and a homestead that your dad or his dad built with his own hands.

What fucking planet do you live on? I honestly thought I was becoming an MGTOW faggot then one day I realized that I wanted kids, to be a father, apropos of absolutely nothing. You can't run from your own nature. Any man who says they don't care about passing on their lineage is lying to himself, damaged, or a child.

Many coincidences :^)

Put "for whites" at the ejd of each. Thats the plan after all

capped

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Yes, and you may think the answer unconventional, but here it is. Magic.

There are nonphysical/energetic disturbances/disharmonies in your flesh and/or soul that must be rectified. This is done on a spiritual level, once restored your bodies (energy and flesh) shall be brought into a state of health and perfection.

mediafire.com/download/y282zogxw071clc/Chia,_Mantak_-_Cultivating_Female_Sexual_Energy.pdf
mediafire.com/download/h9a6thax0kjhtk4/Chia,_Mantak_-_Cultivating_Male_Sexual_Energy.pdf

Here are some primers, see fringechan.org/fringe/res/108.html & energy work in general.

How do they win either way? Just don’t take birth control.

That was disproven, you fucking retard. We are not fruit flies.

You take it and you finda jamal attractive. Meaning dave has one less woman in the pool. U go off it woman divorces, breaks relstionship off but cant find a respectable white man cause she fucked niggers.

Either way no white babies

Citation needed

Also, even if it was physically not true, which I personally rather doubt, also, as above so below, but I know for a fact that it carries over psychic predispositions, be they either problems or fortitudes and said thoughtforms must be dealt with.

t. your friendly neighborhood shaman.

i think he meant dont start it in the first place

It should be obvious that what I said only applies to women who use chem BC.

Women who are wise enough to avoid it tend to have a much lower chance of becoming ruined.

Sorry, I don't make the rules - God does that.

Unlike D&D or your precious RPG video games, the real world does not work with a static starting stat pool: some of us are simply luckier than others. Did you really think that all that developmental juju that makes beautiful people (symmetry, good skin, well formed features, etc.) stopped skin deep?

Don't be a fool: your brain is just as much a physical organ as your heart, and both are just as influenced by the quality of your genes as your physical appearance.

This post has a kernel of truth. The term "spiritual" is a misnomer though. As user said earlier, its an energetic imbalance. Don't confuse the two.

I rescind this post.

If you were so sure of that maybe you would post at least a source instead of paragraph after paragraph of unsubstantiated bro science.

That is a bad idea because it can damage the anal and may get HIV or other disease.

Not from a girl, it's nearly impossible.


He's not gonna do research for you because the basic result is so very well known. Big correlations between IQ, height, and facial symmetry.

Very true. If you know a girl who is starting to talk about having babies, and you're relatively good looking, it's time to flirt. You have a very good chance of making sweet unprotected love.

How old are you and why aren't you married yet?

Just marry already!

Oh fuck my sides!

I am talking about the anal sex.


Anal don't produce the lubrication just like the vaginal sex do so I rather not to risk that.


26 and I haven't found my man yet. I am concerned because the eggs quality will be lower when I hit 30 - 40 years old so need to get a husband before that happens. Do you know what will happen to women if they failed to have a baby when they are 30 or older?

What's "your man"?

26 is pretty old for a woman. How much longer will you wait?

Groids are r-selected species, high fertility even under unfavorable environmental conditions is all they have to survive.

Most likely autistic kids and downies.

Have you tried hooking up in the Church?

Yes. White people are more attractive and more intelligent than other races.

Too be fair theoretically there might be a correlation between increased attractiveness and decreased intelligence since sexual attractiveness would compensate for lack of cunning in natural selection.

What's "your man"?

I want a healthy and strong conservative employed man with military experience and are deeply fond of the rural life.

How much longer will you wait?

Before I hit the 30. Of course.


You are correct.

All of them are married but I haven't tried the other churches yet so I will look more of them later on.

So you essentially want a top 1% alpha male who will literally take care of you and your family for life.

Now the question is, what do YOU have to offer?

My mother had me when she was in her 30s and luckily I turned out without any mental or physical deficiencies, but my younger sister has congenital heart disease. Luckily it's treatable and she'll probably outlive me in all likelihood, but the (((medical bills))) are expensive as fuck and she's had to undergo open heart surgery multiple times.
My parents both have God-tier genetics in terms of health, so it could be even worse in your case.
Don't risk it, start doing everything you can to find a man.

Without urging you to lower your standards maybe you should skip this part. Not only it makes your selection more exclusive but it also increases the chances for a good goy that would die for Israel unless you are not American which you certainly sound as such.

She's White and virgin. Unless her looks are repulsive she sounds good enough.

Excluding her potential araboid ancestry and extremely sentimental liberal tendencies of my mother my parents had God-tier genetics at all aspects (both tall, light-eyed, revered STEM scientists, father was also blonde, alpha as fuck a professional athlete at his youth and a fanatic monarchist) but I am still a college dropout NEET that shitposts on Holla Forums all day long. Genetic recombination might be a bitch at least I am not a manlet or balding like my brother.

I posted some here but I will post more and save you some time.


I am not American. That is interesting to know.

What are you? Stupid? It's always pink.

I am not American. That is interesting to know.

You are 26. It is not going to change, at worst they will become grey-ish at middle age.

I can't be bothered to read all these posts, so thanks for the summary.

You forgot the most important thing you have to offer: Your beauty. Not to be mean, but you're probably ugly. You're a 26 year old virgin posting on Holla Forums after all.

It's too bad. You /sound/ perfect.

I have to believe there is something lost in translation, she says things that a 10 year old would say

Well given that I am European, and among the most religious countries in it, I find a White woman being conservative and virgin at least exotic.

Well extraordinary merits aside she's still a woman.

That is not a bad colour. Niggers will never ever have grey eyes. Hehe. :3

I am like 6/10 rate.


I apologise for my bad English.

Post a pic of your face with eyes blocked, I just gotta see. I've never seen even an average female Holla Forums user (e-celebs aside)

Though extremely niggerish that's actually good advice.

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Don't do it.

I don't know if that is safe for me to do it but how about a time stamp with my blue eyes as proof that I am not lying. Is that good enough?

Yes it is

as long as this is genetics and not due to life style (ie poor hygiene, posture, habits and ability to dress & wear makeup), your views and personality, as far as I can tell, more than make up for it.

this isn't "top 1% alpha male" at all. besides an affinity towards rural living, this describes any well adjusted adult male. you'll find one, if you can fulfill your own role as a dutiful, loyal, accommodating wife & mother.

It will not give you microchimaerism but are you sure you want some sex-deprived shill ejaculating in your eyes' photo?

Um..I don't understand and how do you know that he is asex deprived shill? I already taken photo of my blue eyes.

To be fair these are rarities today. No sour grapes here but the most "well adjusted" alphas today tend to be just degenerate womanizers. I suppose some non-furry faggot from /k/ would be the closest she can get to what she wants and I think we all know how close to "well adjusted" that is.

I'm not the one posting cartoon pictures, nu-male. Quit white knighting her. She wouldn't look twice at you in real life.

I wouldn't say a fit, healthy man with a (good) job and military experience is average, not by a long shot.

It's like syphilis only with men's DNA instead of a spirochete bacterio.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microchimerism

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Use a condom, if you insist to stick your penis into faecal matter.

Don’t believe porn or try to recreate it in real live, porn actors are more then prostitutes a Petri-dish of sexual transmitted diseases. STD do affect, destroy your fertility.

Not an argument also counter-effective to your thesis. If I was interested at her looking at me should not I encourage her posting a pic of her eyes?

Oops. Forgot my smug.

Most alpha types are internally insecure as fuck and so overcompensate by projecting an aura of confidence.

I feel bit more hopeful now.

Wouldn't it hurt to prove that I am serious though?


That is not alpha behavior. No women will go after the men with low self esteem and fake confidence.

They are not necessarily insecure. They just live in a society without valid role-models that glorifies MUH DICKing, shuns responsibility and demonizes monogamy.

Do what you want. It makes no real difference. But it would prove that what you're saying is true.

Sure, but why would it be of any value on Holla Forums? We are Malay micrography board about political discussion and smug 2D girls, not a dating agency.

Thats my point.
Bitches be dumb and shallow yo.


You would be surprised, the way to truly test if someone is alpha is to put them under unexpected mental stress, most will fail and emotionally break down because their 'alpha-ness' is simply a facade.

This has nothing to do with being alpha.

It affects the alphas.

So they know that there are some conservative women out there and stop them from losing the faith in the european races and turn to 2D girls.

Don't call them alpha in the first place. Alpha men are smart, authoritative, fearless and strategist.


That is because they are corrupted by the Marxist rubbishes and other posions.

Don't pay the attention to them or associate with them in anyway as they are attention whores and will love to ruin your life for just a utterly tiny reason.

I think you may have a problem with indecisiveness. Either post the proof or don't. You keep making arguments for it, and yet don't actually do it. I promise to not insult you if that's what you're worried about.

Not a good trait to have if you're going to marry someone before it's too late.

I admit that I am not always assertive but putting the photo of my blue eye on this thread make me a bit paranoid honestly. Anyway I will take a risk.

Are you on drugs or what, those pupils man.

Anyways, you're not wearing makeup right? I can tell you right now to get the guy you want, you'll need to start wearing makeup and do up your hair. And for the love of god START SEARCHING NOW

No I am not on the drug. It's the light that make my pupils bigger. Sorry I freaked you out.


Lightly yes.


I will do.

Come on I know you're an aussie but how do you fuck up the date by an entire month.

Maybe, but then, isn't that what most of the thread has been discussing on the other side of the fence? Women are mostly shitty, so that's why men are opting out?
If you were truly "going your own way," you'd be focused on success, inner and outer.


Depends on your class, I suppose. Military experience is more tied to country's standards.


But that's the role those men occupy in modern society.
What you describe
Might as well be Evola's differentiated man, disconnected from the world current. If he was actually intelligent, and courageous enough to be honest with himself, with the strength to follow through on his thought, he wouldn't be wasting any time climbing to the top of petty social circles and chasing cheap pussy. If he did aim for power, it'd be real power, the kind that's obtained by charismatic aristocrats, not so-called alphas.

Maybe it's simply the distinction between Alpha pos/neg as in this chart

Whoops, it's 6th. I was thinking about the important election while writing so that's why I put 7 instead of 6.

Joke's on you. I've completely given up hope of passing down my genes.

How sad, that is what jews wanted you to do so the european races can become minority and be subjugated in the future. I hope to have three to five children.

Well they succeeded. Avenge me…

user, just git gud at being Alpha and start your own harem. We need quantity and quality, play the numbers game for us you champion of the womb.

INTERDIMENSIONAL ARYAN SPACE JIHAD

Come on, get yourself two good white wives and have eight white children in Papua New Guinea so the white people can become majority race in PNG and become ally to Australia, New Zealand and New Caledonia so what are you really waiting for?

lol there are Australian women on this board? Melbourne?

and you like fanatical monarchists?

No, I am Queensland.


The monarchy in UK isn't what I wanted so I prefer the militaristic autocracy controlled by the white people only to replace the democracy.

Too bad, I've been up to Bundaberg but thats it. I prefer a Christian Orthodox Monarchy. I like the Byzantine Empire and Tsarist Russia.

Ah you are saying that we should get our own Australian Christian Orthodox as the king to rule over us. I am fine with that as long as the UK have no control over Australia.

You're a slav, aren't you?

That would be ideal but wouldn't happen any time soon (or probably ever). I still prefer having a Queen in the UK to no Monarchy at all. Still, it gives me something to work towards as well as Permaculture and Distributism.

Are you Christian and if so what type? You said you were religious.

I am Anglo-Celtic ( please feel free to correct me). What make you think that I am Slavic?

The way you write

I like the ideas of destroying the deserts in Australia but I don't know about the Distributism.


I am Anglican but sadly it is cucked so it is safe to assume that I am Anglican independent.


Frankly I have no idea that I write like a Slavic.

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If you know what Permaculture is you should look into Distributism. Works well alongside it as it shares many of the same ideals and you'll like it if you want to live in the countryside.

As for Anglicanism, have you looked into Eastern Orthodoxy? If you were high church Anglican it is apparently very close.

you use /christian/?

8ch.net/christian/res/279926.html

I will look into it so do you have information on Distributism?


I know little but willing to learn more about them. Are they cucked like mine?


I visited before but don't lurk there often.

Sure, I can give some links.

Orthodoxy is probably the least cucked and most traditional denomination imo. Due to decentralization even cuck infiltrators like Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew get told to fuck off. Info here:

General info: orthodoxinfo.com/

Prayer: orthodoxprayer.org/index.html

Prayer Book: myriobiblos.gr/texts/english/prayerbook/main.htm

Wiki: orthodoxwiki.org/Main_Page


Distributism

Introductory Essay: incommunion.org/2010/11/24/distributism-a-primer-for-orthodox-christians/

Interview: katehon.com/article/distributist-economy-orthodox-countries

Also relevant Anglican history and why to choose Orthodoxy: oodegr.co/english/brit_celt_orthodoxy/open_letter_anglican.htm

I am trying to decide what category Nietzsche's ubermensch fits into, I think it has a selection qualities of both the α+ and γ+.

You make a bunch of spelling and grammatical errors not typical for anglos, so I would assume you aren't from an anglo country.

You don't look like a southern european or nordic and your grammar mistakes don't sound like it either. So I assumed you were from eastern europe.

Still, english isn't your first language, is it?

Very nice! Cuck infiltrators like Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew, how did that happen?

It is my first language and it is something to do with my hearing impairment. What do I look like?

Saved the picture. Thank for the good information m8.

We have two main types. Ex-KGB plant commies like Patriarch/Oligarch Kirill and freemason (or NWO?) ecumenicist types like Patriarch Bartholomew. Because tradition is so strong in the Orthodox Church they are pretty much forced to toe the line or risk having most of the Church break communion with them as happened in the Soviet era when the ROCOR (Karlovci Synod) broke communion with the official (infiltrated) Russian Patriarchate.

Basically there is nothing to worry about because we have no Pope who can change doctrine and every Bishop is equal with only primacy of honour being given to certain bishops but not supremacy of authority. Because of this decentralization of authority any heretical bishop can be excommunicated by the others and the Church continues.

I see. Well, I was wrong then.

Something central-east european. Around east-germany, czech, maybe further east.
Your hair especially reminded me of my ex-gf though she's a redhead
I will leave now

Mfw I can pass off as a central-east european if I keep my mouth shut. I am jealous of your ex-gf's hair. Where are you going to? Sharpening your gun shooting skills at gun club along with your mates?

Nice cherrypicking.
One of the points seriously proposes inducing population wide chronic depression as a solution.

That is good to know that they are willing to serve the link with the corrupted church without putting A whole religion in danger. How hard it is convert to Orthodox?

I know there are a few Churches in Queensland but I don't know if you would be close to them. You would probably have to learn the basics of the Orthodox Christian dogma but I can't remember whether Anglican baptism is considered legitimate or not. Reception into the Church from different denominations is different because some have different forms of baptism etc.

More and more churches are using English liturgy or half-half but familiarity with the liturgy will help.

liturgies.net/Liturgies/Eastern/ChrysostomsLiturgy.htm

orthodox.net.au/en/

Still, better independent Orthodox than independent Anglican!

Hate to break the news to you ol' buddy, but the pill isn't a contraceptive–it's an abortifacient. A rubber or an IUD is a contraceptive but not the pill.

The pill has one function in the woman's body and that's to cause the menstrual cycle to proceed regardless of the presence a fertilized embryo or no (ofc menstruation stops normally during a pregnancy state).

Contraceptive pills definately lower the sex drive in a lot of women and can really fuck with other systems too.

There is a study about humans being able to smell whether or not someone's immune system is complimentary to one's own. This is obviously sub-conscious but plays a huge role in mate selection.
Contraceptive pills somehow de-activate a woman's ability to smell this. This frequently leads to sudden breakups when the women gets off the pill and "realizes" that she isn't compatible with her partner.


scientificamerican.com/article/birth-control-pills-affect-womens-taste/
They will literally stop loving their partner with the snap of a finger.

oh, forgot to say second link includes a map of Orthodox Churches in Aus and the language/s they serve in

You genuinely have no fucking idea how the pill works.

This is correct. The function is actually to flush out the uterine blood lining (as in a typical monthly period). The key difference is that God designed a hormonal change when an egg gets fertilized that stops this process normally (obviously).

The Pill forces it to proceed regardless. This is why 7 of the 28 pills in the container are different–they are the active ingredient that forces the period to happen.


I assure you I do.

Did you convert or born Orthodox? You know a quite lot about the Orthodoxy.

I was born into it (slav) but fell away (never completely though, Pascha always brought me back) and have since spent a fair amount of time reading books on it and online information. I have most info I need bookmarked so I can easily find links for myself (and obviously for others).

Also, this year there will be a Syezd (youth conference) on Gold Coast I believe, so that could also be a chance for you to find out more. There are usually pretty good red-pilled lectures and some non-cucked and redpilled youth.

You fucking don't you mongo.

The pills currently in use actually produce a slime plug over the cervix which prevents sperm from entering the womb. You infact don't have to menstruate at all if you don't take voluntary breaks from it to allow for it.

See, you even ALMOST understood it right. You are not flushing out any fertilized eggs or some nonesense you fucking moron. It can simply lead to potential problems to never have your period hence why you let it happen once a month unless you really don't want to.


No egg is ever fertilized and you're a fucking retard.

Honestly, could you at least have bothered to google how they fucking work before spewing your unfounded half-knowledge with the confidence of a mentally challenged person?

That's all interesting to hear - non-mechanical/physical means for contraception are one of the key poisons that is literally re-wiring women and harming men and yet it is still being pushed and approved. The "nu-male" is not a social phenomenon only, it's medical and biological problem that needs to be addressed if White populations are to be preserved.

What is Pascha?

Does the orthodox christians support the military?

How often do they bring the Syezds to Queensland?

Where do they get the money from?

What are their opinions on homofags?

Pascha is the Eastern name for Easter. Easter comes from the name of the pagan month Eostre which is named after a pagan goddess.

Orthodox Christians in their personal lives are peacemakers but they support the military by blessing the soldiers etc. Miraculous intercessions have also happened in battle such as St Constantine the Great converting when he saw a sign of the cross appear on the sun followed by him winning an important battle.

Syezds happen all around Australia with different youth groups taking turns to host. I don't know how frequently they come back as I have only been to one which was in Melbourne.

Money comes primarily from donations. Th Church doesn't have large coffers (we aren't like the Roman Catholics) although the return of stolen and confiscated property from he Soviet persecutions is helping the state of the Church.

Homofags are sinning if they homofag. They are not allowed to marry. They are not allowed to commune if they are refusing to stop homofagging and repent. If they continue sinning they will be tolerated in participating in the Church liturgy (as any sinner is) but will be urged to repent and stop.

The christian tree (yule tree) is also a pagan practice and is the tree of life . How funny we still have pagan elements in our Christianity and the jews didn't like that too much because our traditions is better than theirs. I love the creativity that the Almighty father blessed us.


How disappointing because I believe they should be hang. Is that a bit too extreme?

I thought the Christmas tree came from a story from the life of St Boniface when he took an axe and cut down an Oak dedicated to Thor in front of some pagans.

I don't see why. Should heterosexuals who have sex before marriage hang? The difference is that homofags can't marry and therefore must stay celibate their whole lives rather than having an escape in marriage. I pity them for the difficulty of their situation.

One of the greatest monks of modern times Fr Seraphim Rose was a homosexual before he converted. Once he did he stopped and wrote some of the best apologetic in recent times.

The Pagan culture used to cut boughs of evergreen trees in December and move them into the homes and decorate them. This was to recognize the winter solstice. and evergreen trees are always green in all seasons. this tradition predated the Christianity.

Fair enough, the Church co-opted many traditions and even transformed Pagan temples into Churches to help with the acceptance of Christianity.

Unfortunately, it didn't always work out such as with Halloween. A Christian name on a Pagan festival (Samhain)

The history on that is a bit complicated. I am going to bed now so goodnite. Will you be on the internet tomorrow? I won't be online until at 6:30pm.

Yeah, I'll likely be on the internet at that time

goodnight

G'nite, don't let the bedbug bite our arse. ;-)

lol, if you want to ask questions:

[email protected]/* */

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How did a cute girl like you end up on 8/pol/ of all places?

I don't spoon feed niggers, jews, or faggots.

Somehow, you've managed to convince me that you're all three.

JFGI.

any women here interested in getting knocked up by a 25 year old, 6'3" green eyes, blond hair fit mesomorph well-off entrepreneur? you can come live in my house with me. my only expectations are that you clean, remain loyal forever and do as i tell you in bed.

disclaimer: may also force you to get in and stay in good health & take care of your appearance. offer only valid to white women. some restrictions may apply.

Is the stromfag version of "its not my job to educate you shit lords"?

Might just be me but I'd much rather marry a 3/10 in looks who's a healthy conservative virgin than a 9/10 liberal slut that's taken so much cock she's lost count.

I agree with this. She valued her virginity as if it is a treasure to her.

calm down anonette, a woman's eggs deteriorate late 30's/early 40's. Don't beat yourself up, you still have time.

Does anyone else suspect that the rise in female obesity is mostly caused by birth control pills? Their bodies are permanently eating for pregnancy.

BTW, birth control pills for acne is shit logic. Acne is caused by bad diet and can be fixed through diet. Any doctor who prescribes bcp for acne needs his medical licence revoked.

Yes, but its harder to find a good man when a women is older.

shit you're right.

Pills can mess with the girls's ability to find the right husband and they often get divorced or cuck their husbands when they stop taking the pills.

bumping for vanya.monarchist on Skype

You know, I had wondered the same and came to the same conclusion the night I posted that.

Hello I am back, so late!

Yeah, no worries! Did you get a chance to look at any of the links yet?

I didn't get a look at the links except the maps of Orthodox Church because I was working today. Now I have free time all night and tomorrow as well. The internet better not get shitty this time.

She's a higher risk for cheating:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3517175/
She's a higher risk for divorce:
nationalmarriageproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/NMP-BeforeIDoReport-Final.pdf
socialpathology.blogspot.com.au/2010/09/sexual-partner-divorce-risk.html
socialpathology.blogspot.com/2012/08/more-promiscuity-data.html

A woman with 12 partners is basically worthless for marriage, if the average 22 year old has had 12 partner then the average 22 year old woman is worthless for marriage.

Do you have Skype? Its easier to write on it than on imageboard.

Was there a church near you?

dailymail.co.uk/health/article-105466/Fertility-timebomb-drinking-water.html

The fertility of a generation of men is being put at risk because a hormone found in the Pill is getting into drinking water, scientists fear.
Pollution due to the chemical, a powerful form of oestrogen, is causing up to half the male fish in our lowland rivers to change sex, research shows.
Experts believe the hormone could be getting into drinking water and affecting men's sperm counts. They say sewage treatment does not remove the chemical entirely from drinking supplies, although the water industry insists there is no evidence of a risk to health.
A study to be published by the Environment Agency later this month says entire fish stocks in some stretches of water are irreversibly affected. Scientists believe the synthetic oestrogen can feminise-fish at levels as low as one part per billion.
Professor Charles Tyler, one of the leaders of the research, told BBC1's Countryfile: 'Some of the concentrations where we are seeing effects on fish are below the detection limit in place for testing our drinking water. So we cannot be sure that some of these compounds aren't getting into our drinking water.'
The study on roach stocks from ten rivers found nearly half of male fish had eggs in their testes or female reproductive ducts. A tenth were sterile and another quarter had damaged sperm.
Dr Susan Jobling, from the research team, said: 'There are very real reasons to be worried about whether male reproductive health could also be affected.'
The discovery that half the male fish in Britain's rivers are changing sex - and that the hormone responsible may be getting into drinking water - is just the latest example of how nature can give us nasty surprises.
For, despite our frequent boast that we have conquered the natural world, it has a habit of striking back in ways we least expect.
Millions of women have found the Pill to be a blessing and, although it might pose some health risks, no one expected it to cause an environmental crisis. On the contrary, it promised to avert catastrophe by helping to slow population growth.
But now scientists have found that ethanol oestradiol - a chemical used in the Pill which is between 50 to 100 times more powerful than natural oestrogens - is responsible for feminising fish.
Excreted in women's urine and passing through sewage works, it is causing the fish to develop eggs in their testes and, in some cases, creating female reproductive ducts.
Although scientists do not yet know whether this is affecting people, we do know that one-third of our drinking water comes from rivers - most of it
from stretches situated below sewage works. And we also know that sperm counts have been dropping alarmingly.
One study by the Medical Research Council found that Scottish men born since 1970 are 25 per cent less fertile than those born 20 years earlier - and that fertility is continuing to drop by two per cent a year.
Of course, other chemicals may be responsible, for we are increasingly discovering that we are surrounded by 'gender-bending' substances.
Many pesticides and plastics, for example, contain chemicals that disrupt the hormone system.
They have also been widely found in food and drink, including in baby milk formula.

As unnerving and puzzling the monthly mood swings of women may be - they are sometimes the savior of difficult times. If you know her well and know how. Let me explain. She is on the rags, feels bad, feels disgust of herself. You bring her tea, explain you have to read something up for work and vanish. She remembers: He cares. But she can't incite some dispute over nothing (PMS and menstrual craziness is real!). Her days of the month are over, you caress her a little bit more, wait a day and she is horny again. Oh boy. I have really nothing against "the last time this months we have sex"-style sex. She herself knows that she has to give everything. Hormonal mood swings suck, but the leverage they give the man into a relationship to guide her is gigantic.

No friend who has a gf on the pill sees the same mood swings. No wonder when they turn 40-50 and the body goes into another level of hormonal upheaval they go berserk and claim the relationship is bland and boring. They were used to a bland outlook for 25 years and suddenly they feel their hormones again, while men finally are balanced between horny as fuck all the time and having a purpose in life. I wonder if there is research on divorce rates and continuous BCP intake.

I have the skype but I have forgotten my account so need to reset the password. I haven't used it for long time.

Was there a church near you?

There are 5 or more churches.

Fun fact: This was research topic since 1995 (that I know of in Switzerland). It was a very contested factoid in ct-forums in the years up to 2005. Then it was ridiculed, because the conspiratards thought that maybe the real purpose, to make really everything toxic for men to become men. Now that it is a basically unsolvable problem without an outright ban on the pill, the discussion is allowed. (((coincidences abound))))

Main factor that nothing happens is environmental studies has a very high part of women as researcher. So they see it a technological problem, because you know the social aspect is certainly neither wrong nor important!!! And as research on purifying shit because it turns male (!) fish gay is misogynistic, no significant grants are made. The solution we have now along European water bodies is to let it rot in wastewater treatment a day more if possible, which is not a signification reduction in hormonal activity at all.

Sweet, should be one in English then. If you decide to convert pick a Russian jurisdiction over a Greek one if possible as from memory the Greeks use a different calendar.

I'm off to grab some dinner. Add me as a contact if you work out your Skype stuff

We want population control. Read this.

kakistocracyblog.wordpress.com/2015/04/23/a-trillion-africans-by-2350/

Birth control has a more dramatic effect on minority birthrates than white. Whites have enough agency to deliberately increase their population. Other groups won't, so we should continue promoting birth control and abortion.

One of them are Romanian and rest of the churches are not orthodox. Have a good dinner. I will try.

It really blows the mind how fragile women really are - biologically, emotionally, mentally, socially… on all levels they need to be protected, sheltered, raised and kept in line even after they "grow up", otherwise they are just worthless for men looking for wives.

No wonder that most cultures preferred to keep women "away from evils of the world" because as silly as it sounds, they are really more corruptible than men and they need men in their lives, be it fathers or husbands, at all times.

Wew, that is fast breeding. We can dope the aid food with the birth control or let them die from starvation. Bleeding hearted people will not allow that to happen no matter what.

I am mortified at that picture. It is enough to destroy the earth permanently. I would rather to save the trees than the worthless niggers.

Unlike the average channer, I had a fucking harem during my 10 year stint at college. Yes, I was a degenerate, don't do what I did, learn from my mistakes. After my first girlfriend at 18 that redpilled me that I was brainwashed, especially with regards to the nature of women, I started going down that dark path of deprogramming me on all kinds of subjects (I'm basically a 1488er now)

What I mean to say is, if there's one thing I have loads of first hand experience, it's women. And I've had girlfriends on and off the pill. And I soon noticed that GFs on the pill are far more annoying and whiny. I eventually started the policy of talking every single GF (and random acquaintance) out of the pill.

The pill fucks up girls in a variety of ways. Most importantly, psychologically. Whiny and passive-aggressive. Like, typical "bitch" behaviour is often caused by the pill. Meanwhile, while technically the tits become bigger, they also become saggy as all fuck. I prefer my tits perky. Nowadays you have 18 year old girls with saggy grandma tits because they thought it was a good idea to take the pill.

The one thing I can say that it does seem to do is reduce menstruation cramps, and duration of the red flow overall. If you think that should improve the womans behaviour, you're wrong. Women don't behave badly during their bleeding time - they behave badly the two weeks before they start bleeding. Then you have a week of them being meek and cuddly while they bleed, and then you have a week of them being cock hungry hores while they steer towards ovulation. After ovulation, they go back to being bitches.

With the pill, you don't ever have them in cock hungry whore mode, you only have them in bitch mode squared, and sometimes cuddly.

I disavow all contraceptives. If you shag a grill, you better get ready to marry her. Not doing so damages both you and her. Sex is naturally designed to strengthen the bond between people - 98% of sex ends up being non procreational, even when people are actually trying to procreate. It is an intimate thing that you should only do with a girl that you'll want to spend the rest of your life with. Anything else is degenerate.

And don't give a shit about people shagging around. All they've fucked are whores. They've not made love in their life. I'd trade all the whore sex just to be with the right girl. But then I'd probably again develop insecurities because fucking jew society tells me I need to shag around to be a real dude etc.

Got a similar experience as yours OP. My gf went off the pill too, and her libido increased as well as her willingness to do housework and listen to me. The pill completely fuck women up.

Let's hear it. Most I've had was 3 "girlfriends" and a fwb in my 2nd year.

And… stop reading right there, bitch.

Faggy post Sir, but you're onto something.

This.

I can confirm personally, that my ex when she left the birth-control pills (before me, cuz I'd never allow that shit) that she got completely fucked up.

Lack of lust for sex, vagina didn't get wet properly, bleeding in the vagina after hard sex. All kinds of fucking wack problems, fucked her up real fucking bad man.

What do you want to hear? Basically I had a bunch of non-exclusive girlfriends, friends with benefits etc at the same time. ONS only very rarely . No, they weren't all smoking hot, there were chubbies (with atomic tits) and even a half black one. They were overwhelmingly students though, so I could hold an interesting conversation with them. I have no idea how to deal with non-student grills.

I eventually started having them lez out with each other, I organised events that ended pretty much as orgies. Degenerate/10. Was interesting for its novelty, of course, but being with the right girl is ultimately much more fulfilling.

I am glad that I am not on the birth control.

Hey right now i am on business in Norway but if you really want to start a family then I am absolutely ready. I have been hunting for a virgin waifu for about 4 years. This is difficult to find even in the church nowdays!

How old are you and where are you from?

Oh, I though you meant 5 Orthodox Churches in your area.

32, currently working in boston but from the carolinas.

Sorry I am tired. How was your dinner?

Take away gook food. It was ok. Just been chillin because I go to Russia on a pilgrimage soon.

Skype me: dog0fwar

When do you go to Russia? I haven't toured there yet.

Ok, I am 26 years old so are you older than me?

In a week. I'll be travelling to a lot of different places. Mostly famous monasteries and churches. I'm also going to see the miracle-working icon in Kursk.

Yes I am.

What denom are you m8? Are there many conservative Christians where you are?

Just curious as things are fairly cucked down here in Melbourne with a lot of the denominations.

Ya gotta go full blown amish/mennonite to get non cucked christianity…

Carolina….I love the smoked mini burger beef bricket. Sorry I didn't see your other post. Are you fit and have military background?

Why are you living there? Get out of there. I am going to there next month.

I meant to reply with the two different numbers.

nah. vid related talks about Orthodox social doctrine and has a strong focus on ethnic identity. Amish rejection of technology probably goes a bit too far.

I live with my family and I'm studying at Melbourne uni. I'm in a decent area with conservative friends

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Family has a military background but I was rejected due to childhood asthma. I still ran faster than all the other guys taking the physical fitness test :]

Instead I have become an electrical and nuclear engineer. I do bodybuilding as work allows.

Do you still have it?


What kind is it?

Lucky you, how redpilled are your friends and the family?

No, I ran cross country and overcame it. My family has a number of members that have served, mostly in the Army and Marines.

My family is White Russian so we all hate communism and we don't like the Jews either - they worked to create the revolution and they killed our Tsar. When we have dinner at my babas place we often have redpilled talks at the dinner table.

On my Russian side I'm descended from the clergy class and a scion of House Bobrinsky (don't know the English side) so Orthodox Christianity and Monarchist sentiment is in my blood and I try to honor my ancestors by living my life in accordance with those beliefs.

As for friends, I have some white friends from Church who are pretty conservative but outside of that every white person I know is degenerate and only some asians are redpilled.

That is good enough for me. Do you have questions for me?

That explained why that you are a fanatical monarchist. :-)

I successfully reset my account. Wew! I look fat on my skype display profile. Oh geez, I haven't signed in for ages.

Absolutely!

Would you be willing to wear a headcovering in public such as the one attached?

What is your traditional ancestry?

Would you be alright with a very large family where you had to work out of the home?

What do you do for fun?

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That's why you join a conservative Christian denomination m8. They are literally the only redpilled white people I meet these days.

mfw I go for a week of lectures by priests and half of them are against fags and degeneracy and the other half are against the spirit of (((antichrist)))

Yes but isn't that meant for praying though?

What is your traditional ancestry?

I am pretty sure it's Anglo-Celtic.

Would you be alright with a very large family where you had to work out of the home?

I think I will be fine with four - six children.

What do you do for fun?

Reading, playing, shopping, internet surfing and walking with my tiny dog.

We should meet up then! Want to plan a vacation sometime?

maybe we should start a board for traditional waifus to find fascionable gentlemen?

/tradfam/ or /lovewaifu/ etc?

Keep it moderated from pol and link your aryan qts there!

I find it very amusing that people would rather post pictures of young white girls in inappropriate clothing rather than actually trying to wife one! MAN UP KAMERADE!

so what is your skype?

I am trying to change the Skype Name because it is my real name.


I think I need a hot bath now.

Just go to your account and 'edit profile'. Should be able to change it there

My skype is dog0fwar.

Add me when you are ready.

Last time I disagreed with your >muh orthodox monarchism in favour of a militaristic fascist state for white people, you argued with me for two days. The difference when you're talking to a vagina who wants the same thing is stark to say the least.

The difference is that she accepted my position and is considering converting to Orthodoxy and you did not.

It has nothing to do with her being a women especially as I'm 20 and shes 26

of course fisheaters.com/srpdf/xtheplotagainstthechurch.pdf

Something must check the monarchy, ideally the church!

TBH I can't stand the christian idea of a vicarious savior, that you don't need to do anything, just die and poof. As morally righteous as they may be, it deincentives actually cultivating one's consciousness, which, sure is a (gradual) side effect of being divine love, one can actively do it through (what is often considered heresy) meditation and application of metaphysical principles (magic).

Perfecting the soul, as you live, is the actual reason we are here, not so it can be made perfect after death…

For that reason, though I may go to church, I think it would be rather hard to find a conscious waifu via such an avenue. Much less one I could get into greenpilled conspiracy with and partake in the aware cultivation of our spirits & souls to Godhead with.


Is certainly a better name.


kek

Sure

lol. So you'd like for someone to blindly follow your faith without "discovering" it on their own or "connecting with god" or whatnot? That doesn't sound like faith. That sounds like LARPery

And don't kid yourself. It's because of the vagina.

that's why we don't have a monarchy in the first place tbh fammo

I'm assuming that you are a Burger as you only seem to be familiar with McDonalds tier Christianity. Orthodox Christianity teaches that synergy between man and God is necessary for theosis (divinization).

In other words, we are perfected through spiritual struggle and God's grace.

but user

hey user

did it ever occur to you

hey user

did it ever occur to you

that maybe your god doesn't exist?

She mentioned that she is Anglican but hated the cucked nature of it. Many Anglicans convert to Orthodoxy because if you know your history you will realize that the English Church did not follow the Pope in 1054 but only fell in line after 1066 when the native clergy was replaced by papists after the Norman invasion.

Thus Anglicanism is a mix of three traditions and is closer to Orthodoxy than most other protestants.


It sure did bud. But I didn't find materialism and determinism convincing and looking through history and even some other religious traditions I came to believe that Orthodox Christianity is the true path.

Did it ever occur to you user that I am active irl and want to talk to other redpilled Australians?

Or are you waiting for Hitler?

Why? Because one day you swapped your underwear and it suddenly felt like the "true" path?
Because blindly believing in something without evidence gives you the warm and fuzzies simply because you "belong" to something?
What makes your religion any "truer" than Zoroastrianism, Norse paganism, Roman paganism, Hellenic Paganism, etc.? The only difference is that you've decided without any real reason to that your particular story is the truth. Australia isn't even historically orthodox, so it's not even like you're doing it for cultural reasons.

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While I have occasionally seen denominations of Christianity that actually accepted spiritual gifts, they all strictly forbid actually understanding them for to do that is witchcraft.

What no Christian I've ever met understands is, Jesus and the saints and the apostles where wizards, they used magic (union with God) to effect the will of God beyond the means of the flesh, and most importantly, they knew what they where doing on an intimate level.

If I could actually find a Gnostic-tier esoteric Christian sect I'm sure I would fit right in, but as stands, I actually have more in common with the highest tier of the awakened Aquarian age folk that those who follow a Kali Yuga based religion.

P.S. There is still growth to be hand even in eternity, and yet still growth to be hand after death yet before eternity, similar to what we have on Earth.

We aren't going to convince each other user. I work according to the tradition of my ancestors and the teachings that have sprung from the Australian soil such as Permaculture and Alexander Technique.

I'm working for Australian nationalism and I assume you are working for nationalism in your country. How about we leave it at that brother?

I am going to create a new skype name tomorrow so what is the time in Norway? Mine is 2357 in Australia.

Our Saints are well aware of your demonic magic. The Church has certain rigid teachings when it comes to spiritual work (prayer, fasting etc.) so that we follow God and not the demons.

Of course we are aware of the existence of demons on the spiritual plane but we do not seek to interact with them. If we receive a vision it is because God seeks to show us something and not because we seek it out.

It the number of not completely absurd suggestions does not in any way make the others one less insane.

Just ignore these other things as well.
>encourage homosexuality
>fertility control agents in water supply
>compulsory sterilization of all people with 2 children

Everyone should look at himself instead of falling for the damage control.

I am going to go now. Chat l8.

Really, you are no better than the rest of the short sighted Christians I've spoken to.

Prayer and fasting are excellent things. I highly recommend them, I fast regularly as a life style personally and making your desires known via prayer (i.e. spelling out your intent to the God)

I follow, and embody, love, the universal and sole force which created all. And through that, I can break the laws of physics. I usually, and primarily, do so to heal people but on occasion it's manifestative or more prayer based.

If you honestly think there is anything wrong with that you really need to reanalyze your beliefs for internal inconsistencies. I would also suggest actually reading the bible closely, because the alchemical secrets of how to literally become the christened one and do these things are in there, albeit buried in metaphor.

Regardless, an awakened age of love is upon us, the world is being transformed, and no amount of fear can stop it.

"Agree to disagree" is a bullshit liberal copout. Justify your beliefs and provide evidence to support your particular special snowflake religion or shut up.
But what about the ancestors before Orthodoxy?
Australia is already a multicult, racially mongrelised nation. If there's no racial element to your nationalism them its worthless.

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If you truly follow "Love, the universal and sole force which created all" (and existed pre-eternally) than I have no quarrel with you. But I believe that if you are outside of the Church it is much easier to be deceived.

I read a bit of Nietzsche, Spengler, Kierkegaard as well as the Tao Teh Ching and Analects of Confucius. I believe that the ethics and theology of the Ancient civilizations around the world is perfected in Christian Truth which is a Person who is known. I think that you can only have a personal relationship with Truth as the Tao that can be Taoed is not the Eternal Tao.

I have no idea what they did or what they believed but I have family traditions and stories relating to my ancestors who were Orthodox Archpriests.

All of the West is multicult and mongrelised to some extent. I'm not running.

use her mouth

I am not outside by choice per se, I've been solitary in my beliefs just because I have not found a body. Perhaps in time I'll just form one with my clan…

Love brother.


youtube.com/playlist?list=PLF4513ADF171E3995
Yes it's long did you honestly expect it to be a short answer? Also it's only the tip of the iceberg.

Have you ever contemplated the Trinity and the theology of the triad as a creating principle?

There is an interesting mention of it in the Tao Teh Ching as well although I've forgotten the chapter.

nietzsche criticised Christianity for its slave morality, which has only become more emphasized over recent decades. Christianity values weakness, meagerness, and pacifism. Universalism originally came from Christian thought and was later secularised and turned into what it is today.

Cut the cryptic obscurest bullshit. What the hell does "Christian Truth which is a Person who is known" even mean? Also, in what way is Chrstian thought the perfected form of ethics and theology? Most religious beliefs oppose many Christian teachings or values, so how do you draw such a connection?
And my ancestors were Anglican. That doesn't make their belief any more valid or true in my eyes, and nor should it do the same in yours.
No it wasn't at all. Knowing your less-than-adequate position on the importance of race, I wouldn't be surprised if you just promoted race-blind civcuck Australian "nationalism" instead of Australian nationalism with the racial component.

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Truth that can be known is not Eternal Truth. The Way that you can travel is not the Eternal Way. What it means is that we cannot comprehend the pre-eternal Source of all things as we would then be above Him. Thus the only way we can know Truth is to have faith as Abraham did when he took Isaac to sacrifice him and try and have a relationship with God. In that sense I believe that only revelation is capable of giving us a foundation for Order and I believe that the Christian revelation is correct. You seem to be an atheist so how can I go about telling you why one religion is more correct than another? You do not accept that any of them are correct.

Do you at least deny materialism and determinism?

lol no and my family would disown me if I ever race-mixed

Trinitarian concepts (as with many other sacred numbers) occur, almost incessantly in all theology. And thus it's clear they do have importance and are worthy of musing upon. Specifically your question, I'm quite aware of them, have done meditations on such, and I usually call them by their Greek names, Nous, Logos, & Demiurge

The Nous can be equated with the spirit of totality, that which originated all desire: God, Logos with the imagination, architect or one which reasoning through the former into a plan, the Christ, and Demiurge with that which enacts, builds, manifests or otherwise gives form to the priors, this can be equated with the Holy Spirit that is constantly pulling us to perfection (if we exert our freewill to be open to it.)

Imo you are too focused on "knowing". How can you know Truth when the "Tao that can be Taoed is not the Eternal Tao"?

I take it you are fairly familiar with Apophatic theology and perhaps the work of Dionysius the Areopagite? Do you have an opinion on Hesychasm and the vision of God as Uncreated Light. The participation with the Divine Energy as grace or perhaps "Teh".

That wouldn't exactly be surprising. I remember they did a recent study on Acetaminophen that found that the drug and other pankillers like it have the psychological effect of significantly reducing your empathy for other people. Turns out that dulling your sense of pain also effects how strong your sense of pain for others is as well. medicalnewstoday.com/articles/310216.php
That said it makes perfect sense that disabling a women's reproductive system via hormone fuckery could completely disable her will to have kids. Especially in tandem with effects described by:

Mass-market medicine has really fucked up our shit. Between antiobiotic resistance and xenoestrogens alone I fear for the future.

How do you explain the autism phenomenon? Especially considering it is said to be the "extreme male brain." If men are being feminized, what could be causing this?

This is true, but is not dependent on any specific religion, let-alone your special snowflake brand of Christianity.
You don't even know if there is a "him" to begin with. You just finished claiming that one cannot know the eternal truth or the pre-eternal source of all things, and yet you now create a source (god), personify it, and give it human qualties. You just contradicted yourself.
Wrong. I reject this completely. You have only asserted this as fact, but give me no reason to accept it. Faith-based truth is an oxymoron. If it is true, it can be proven. If it cannot be proven, it doesn't necessarily make it false, but it doesn't make it true. It takes on the quality of being unknown - waiting for humans to discover it. That is the Human struggle. To uncover Truth and respect nature's eternal law and never try to rebel against it.
topkek. You just "believe it's correct" but have absolutely no reason to other than your "feelings". You can't just assert shit like that and not get called out on it. Why do you believe it's correct? If you're so sure, then you must be able to provide me with some evidence of its validity easily. What differentiates your unique "revelation" from the hundreds of thousands that have come before yours?
I'm an agnostic atheist leaning towards deism. I accept that there very well may be a supernatural being that created reality, but I have no evidence of this, and thus I can only claim to not know either way. There is clearly a deeper spiritual aspect of humanity that needs to be explored and discovered and which the scientific method cannot explain (as of yet, at least), but this has no bearing on whether LARPagan Jimmy or Christcuck John's special brand of "who dun did it" is true.
I didn't call you a civcuck. I said that your views on race suggested you thought it was largely irrelevant, meaning your Australian nationalism could very well be race-blind cuckery. Clearly I was wrong

I can know that which is beyond words (by the experience of such) it's just the conveying of that is truly accurate terms is what is not possible. (Not to say I am at Godhead yet, but I certainly do posses knowledge which can not be transmitted by a metaphor as weak as written/spoken language.)

Truth has nothing to do with words. Truth can be likened to the bright moon in the sky. Words, in this case, can be likened to a finger. The finger can point to the moon's location. However, the finger is not the moon. To look at the moon, it is necessary to gaze beyond the finger.

I am not.

I am, however, familiar with the concept of God as the unmanifest force, which by technicality, anything manifest becomes not God but it lacks the purity once form is taken, it's a mere abstraction thereof. And so to actually enter into union with the divine one must go beyond creation itself.

A lot of doctors will prescribe BCP for acne, to reduce menstruation, etc. It is usually an excuse for teenage girls to hide the fact that they are sexually active from parents, and doctors don't give a shit one way or the other.

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SSRI use by pregnant women was conclusively linked with autism, the data was available since 2005 but there was a concentrated shilling campaign to keep it suppressed.
webmd.com/brain/autism/news/20140414/study-ties-antidepressant-use-in-pregnancy-to-autism-risk-in-boys

In fact, the whole anti-vax thing was a psyop, anyone who proposed that autism could be artificially created was inevitably conflated with those useful idiot nutjobs and discussion of causes of autism became taboo. The media ran with the anti-vaccine idiots for a long time to stigmatize them as much as possible and the result was that anyone who disagreed the rise of autism was anything but better diagnostic criteria was stigmatized, it wasn't the vaccines it was the fucking SSRIs! SSRIs are of course prescribed frequently to middle age women because feminism, cultural marxism, and BCP has created millions of failed marriages and miserable careerist women.

The reason that white fertility rate is going down is because white women are participating in a sex strike against White Genocide, as they've accurately come to stereotype white men as being sick, self-hating, white anti-white traitors. Therefore, white women are using their power or allure against those anti-whites and so, as a consequence, white marriage and fertility decreased. What's going on is known as the white women sex strike against White Genocide.
#WWSSAWhiteGenocide

And this shit poisons are water by estrogen that can't be filtered out.

I chose Christianity because it seems to unify traditions in the sense that the Trinity reveals the unity of the Absolute Personal (more Western) and the Absolute Impersonal ie. complete benevolence.loving (more Eastern) in theology.

Pills suppressed their emotions. A lot of old women are on the pills so long that they are used to the boring lifestyles. If they get the pills off at the middle age then they will lost their minds and become jealous of the mothers.

I've never ever heard of someone who took the pill and got pregnant.

Two dumbasses got pregnant precisely because they stopped taking the pill (one because she wanted to trap his bf so she didn't swallow the pill, just threw it to the toilet. the other dumbass said that pills were too expensive. As if babies are cheaper). They are both very bad mothers.

The pill changes hormone levels, which has a different effect on anyone.

My wife is very unemotional and never took the pill.

In Europe it's a bad idea. Forced indoctrination by the cuck state and if you're poor your kids most likely will be going to some sandnigger school where they'll be the minority and get beat up every day.

Later on they'll have no shot at a stable life and either live on welfare or become criminal.

Been there done that, don't do that shit to your kids. Cancerous single mothers do that shit but men shouldn't.

Kek has spoken

You make a point I know many white girls who don't date white guys.

Look at this slut,
twitter.com/Carliitavaldes/status/746239589778481153

One candidate to prove my point.

Dubs speak, this a harsh scary truth that is now present.

f you're poor your kids most likely will be going to some sandnigger school where they'll be the minority and get beat up every day.

We thank KEK the strongest god to meme the world into the way he created thus. He has spoken to us and given us the superior memes that rule all memes.

KEK YOU ARE GREAT

WE THANK KEK FOR HIS NUMBERS

KEK LOVES ALL DUBS


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- TRIPLE 666

What is HH?

What was the purpose of bumping this thread?

He's just being autistic about the dubs. Sage for going off the topic. I realise that I should have sage my other posts so I am sorry about that.

That is a interesting picture.

to propagate a demon worship
dont worship god worship kek
fucking dumbass cunts