Reasons to Ban All Guns in the United States:

Reasons to Ban All Guns in the United States:
In 2011 alone, a total of 478,400 fatal and nonfatal violent crimes were committed with a firearm, as noted by the Special Report on Firearm Violence, 1993-2011, published in May 2013 by the Bureau of Justice Statistics. The same report states that a shockingly high 8% of all violence was committed with a firearm. If firearms had been banned in 2011, the most recent year in the report, there would've been 25% fewer robberies and 69% fewer homicides.
According to the above-mentioned report, only 0.8% "of victims in all nonfatal violent crimes reported using a firearm to defend themselves during the incident" in the years 2007-2011. This included instances where the victim "threatened" their assailant with the use of a firearm as well as occasions where a firearm was actually fired in self-defense.
From 1993-2011, only 0.6% of firearm violence was committed in gun-free school zones. Compare this with 19.3% of said incidents occurring in the home or lodging of the victim, 22.7% occurring near the victim's home, 8.8% at a commercial establishment, and 22.9% in public spaces. In fact, the notoriously gun-free school zones had the lowest incidence of firearm-related violence out of any classification in the BJS's report (which spanned nearly two decades) and that's even when you include crimes that occurred when the victim was "on school property, on the way to or from regular sessions at school, and while attending or traveling to or from a school-sponsored event."
After nonfatal crimes involving firearms, 31% of those who did not report it did so for fear of reprisal; compare this with just 5% of violence that didn't involve a firearm. Conversely, 36% of victims of non-firearm violence were able to resolve the situation without involving police, compared to just 12% of firearm violence victims. A shocking 27% of firearm violence victims reported that "police could not or would not help," while only 16% of non-firearm violence victims said the same.

Source for stats: bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/fv9311.pdf

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nraila.org/gun-laws/armed-citizen
mythdebunk.com/are-these-claims-about-switzerlands-gun-ownership-true/)
fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/tables/table-43
8ch.net/pol/res/6392911.html
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/77920278
productforums.google.com/forum/#!forum/websearch
fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8
breitbart.com/2nd-amendment/2016/06/14/mitch-mcconnell-says-he-may-be-open-to-post-orlando-gun-control/
usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2016/06/20/senate-gun-vote-after-orlando-shooting/86143418/
newsweek.com/mitch-mcconnell-guns-terrorism-gun-control-orlando-shooting-omar-mateen-isis-470468?piano_d=1
thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/284073-trump-orlando-clubgoers-should-not-have-had-guns
storify.com/BenjaminNorton/lafayette-shooter-was-a-right-wing-tea-party-suppo
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Lee_Loughner#Views_on_politics
newsday.com/long-island/crime/new-hyde-park-man-had-9-illegal-assault-weapons-cops-say-1.11678577
fox61.com/2016/06/21/new-fairfield-man-arrested-for-making-and-selling-illegal-ar-15s/
patch.com/new-york/tarrytown/bronx-man-arrested-sprain-brook-parkway-illegal-weapons
breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2016/06/23/john-mellencamp-billy-joel-musicians-sign-letter-gun-control
cnn.com/2014/08/11/tech/innovation/spy-satellites-fighting-crime-from-space/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies
twitter.com/SFWRedditVideos

Reasons to Keep Guns Legal in the United States:

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But if guns are illegal how will we shoot men before throwing them out of our planes?

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OP, do you even gun?

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Look, Rach, I'm all for gun control for blacks and browns and other violent minorities, as is the original intent of the Constitution.

Other than that, you can eat shit and die.

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Actually, the same place I buy my weed I could also purchase automatic weapons with no background check at all.

You underestimate how many firearms are already in circulation.

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gun free zones work, if your intent is to eventually have them become a bloodbath

I wonder why someone would do that.

At least you can talk

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You're a big faggot

Because if you try to take them from me I'll murder you.

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Has this ever actually been used? Besides the armed tax protest that President Washington ended when the protesters got scared and ran away, I mean.

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I love how people post all these correlation fallacies and completely ignore existing examples of locations with lots of freedom control laws, like Chicago, DC, France, etc.

IE: Chicago

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Then post it.

Goyim don't look at the Bataclan, gun control totally work.

Does the government keep statistics on how many times a gun has saved a life or has defended a person against attempted murder, rape, or robbery?

I didn't think so.

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Sure but something like 90% of mass shootings
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Since you're obviously too mentally impaired to scroll back up to the OP and read it in full, I'll paste the relevant portion here:
Only 0.8% "of victims in all nonfatal violent crimes reported using a firearm to defend themselves during the incident" in the years 2007-2011. This included instances where the victim "threatened" their assailant with the use of a firearm as well as occasions where a firearm was actually fired in self-defense.

Banning guns will have little to no impact upon crime victimization and the statistics prove it.

Are you even American?

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So how many crimes is that and how many is 0.8% of that.

Yes. And to end this whole "hurr Rach iz Canadian learnincode shitposter durr" bullshit, take a look at the /k/ thread where I'm posting the same #InconvenientTruth >>>/k/375327
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This is what learningcode thinks trolling is.

When was the last time anybody successfully robbed a bar that is a regular hangout for cops?

Oh great, it's the commie and their commie thread. "Don't worry guys, if you lay down your guns, the muslims will too." It's so great being a cuck in here.

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It's on page 12 of the PDF. Table 11. I've already provided the link, stormderp; read it for yourself and determine if the paltry few instances of guns allegedly being used in self-defense is really worth it in comparison with drastically slashing crime rates by banning them altogether.

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See Paris, France

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Your entire post is completely non relevant. I do not care what the statistics are, even if I use them to argue my point when they are in my favor. We need our guns so that we have the power to get together and kill our enemies. We should also be able to carry them anywhere any time. You see, in a society where everybody knows their purpose and is relatively satisfied with their rulers, there is trust, nobody actually wants to kill their rulers. However, the moment they do, they should fucking be able to. This is what the second amendment is for. We should be able to own all weapons, armed jets, artillery, everything.

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Nice try, Rach, but I see through your tricks!

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Sorry for missing your other post btw, I'll get to responding to that now.

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Fuck off you moron, this is a fairly constructed set of facts that need to be refuted. That does not mean I need to fucking humor OP's bullshit effortless replys.

Reasons to Ban All Niggers in the United States:

You guys know Learningkike only gets to post because he's friends with one of the mods, right?
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Someone post that statistic showing that gun ownership has zero correlation with crime, or even gun crime.

2nd, shall not be infringed. Any sort of authority a Government claims to have must be rooted in that. Since a government authority claims to derive their power from the document that lays bare the foundational principles must agreed to the precursor

Honestly the best way to stop the majority of gun crime is to ban niggers from owning guns and then ban niggers

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I think if you compare gun violence rates in region with high incidence of single motherhood with regions with high gun ownership rates and lax gun laws, you'll see the need for common sense woman control and the repeal of female rights. If you look at race and national origin of gun violence perpetrators and then look at female voters support of mass immigration and multicultural policies, you'll see yet another reason for the pressing need of common sense woman control and the limiting of female rights. Female rights are just a vagina substitute anyways, real women who can attract good husbands don't need them.

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I don't mind Ruckle madcow, ban them, it will being people like me a lot of money. The underground gun market is going to make groups that don't have you're interested in mind varry powerful. Ammo for thought.

So anything that is legally allowed is suddenly a right? Is that your argument?
Nobody has the right to be judge, jury, and executioner. Even if that were the case however, the stats I posted prove that this is only the case in 0.8% of nonfatal violent crimes. 43.8% offered no resistance at all. A further 22.1% defended themselves without a weapon. You don't need a firearm to engage in self defense. Something as small as a whistle will suffice, and it doesn't even need to be used as a weapon.
You're saying you only want guns so you can go shoot up Microsoft or whatever? How is this necessary, and how is it a right? When has a corporation ever physically threatened you or infringed upon your Constitutionally-guaranteed rights? Protip, torrenting a terabyte of copyrighted trap porn isn't a right.
This has literally only been almost exercised once, and ended quickly when da popo showed, commanded by George "Drop the Teabaggers" Washington himself. Since when do you have a "right" to this, and why has this "right" never been invoked?

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You're retarded. Then again you portray lefties perfectly, as retarded children. A Weasel For you.

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Bullshit, prove it.

Banning guns is the easy part. The subsequent revolution that wipes the leftists out will be fun part.

I'm glad somebody else here gets it.

Rape whistles only entice the rapist.

AND HOW WILL YOU HAVE A REVOLUTION WITH NO GUNS?

If 6 year old Iraqi sandniggers can make AK-47s from scratch, I don't think we'll have any trouble.
You can always check out /k/ for blueprints.

You're going to have to do better than that, stormderp.

Don't turn them in? I mean fuck, you can make guns. They aren't magic thing that drop from the sky.

Oh that's right, leftists believe that people will actually volunteer to go door to door to confiscate guns. That might work for a day or two, but sooner or later the bodies will pile up and the supply of body bags will be depleted.

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I thought we were past this, Holla Forums. I thought you'd learned better by now.

I was wrong.

Cool thread

Somebody call the CIATFBI, quick!

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So you forgot about the Paris Massacre? Nice. They went in with illegal weapons. Just drink some Jack with a whole bottle of Codeine and all the gun violence will stop

This is getting out of hand. It's absolutely Rachdiculous.

Summerfags…. God damn it you never reply to a fucking each thread. Giving this faggot attention is why he never leaves.

The report I linked proves that of convicted criminals who'd used a firearm, only a minority obtained it illegally.

For example, in 2004 only 7.4% had obtained their weapon through a fence or the African-American market.

A banning would create a violence-fueled black market worse than anything we've seen as a result of prohibition of alcohol and drugs, both of which were absolute failures.

Even if US gun production completely halted, there would be hundreds of millions of guns remaining to account for.

Once again, even if production halted, CNC million machines and garage projects facilitated by internet-distributed blueprint files is taking off and would explode as a result of production bans. Cody Wilson is a spectre that works to undo all your social engineering.

Reporting on crimes prevented but firearm ownership is impossible because it is unable to account for criminals dissuaded from committing a crime at all for fear of armed retaliation.

Pulse was a gun free zone. Almost every single school where a shooting occurred was a gun free zone. This is modern day plague doctor nonsense passed off as safety.

You're trying to delay the inevitable, but guns have been invented and there's no going back. The printing press couldn't be stopped no matter how hard church and kingdom tried. Your modern-day progressive states will fare no better and are quickly on the way out.

Compare crime in states with high gun ownership that are predominantly white (NH) to failed city-state shit holes like Detroit and Chicongo. The problem isn't guns. I'll let you figure out what it is.

Reported for samefriending, Rach.

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There are better ways to make a gun with shit just lying around. Got a good Chopsaw? got a shitty mini-lathe from harbor freight? Good that 3-d printers are running interference.

Manpigs.

I'll play.

Well that's not what I said, while it could be extracted from that, it wasn't my intent.
Unfortunate situations such as those produce similarly unfortunate results. Sometimes people take into their hands what the cannot grasp. Were someone to be killing in an act of self defense, the occurrence will still (or at least should) be reviewed by the court of law and the involved parties will be reviewed.
Absolutely true statement. It's not a need. Although it is a passive benefit of ownership.
I have never personally come across a case where the sound of a whistle did anything more than attract notice to an incident - let alone provide a direct defense.
Given that it was apart of two other instances I had directly named (of which there are many), no - I didn't say that.
This (again) is a perk. While this particular segment does not apply in modern day America, since the turn of last century the fear of monopolistic corporations taking control of everything in an uber-capitalist system has been a possibility. The idea of such has been explored in media and literature.
Many people here would disagree you ( ° ʖ °)
Not me though.
This is exercised all over the world where people of countries (more recently in the middle east) rise up and forcefully overthrow their own government which they have deemed no longer represents them. While this hasn't happened here in America - never say never. The second you remove guns from the hands of the people is the same second that the power to mount an effective resistance against the government ceases to be practical (where that to ever happen).

Did you forget about all the satellites we have taking hundreds of photos of the entire planet every day?

They'll get your guns eventually, criminal. And then they'll get you.

Well they're in the general shape of men but I don't think they count as human.

We know it's you. imkampfy.

Stormderps.

We talking the Full Auto AK' used in Paris France. that shits heavily controlled. Thankfully the Euros see customs and border agents as racist so the weapons slipped through just fine.

Jeez, what does imkampfy have to do to prove he's not me? Take a timestamped picture of his rapemuscle with the words "I'm not Rach" written on it?

Kampfy if it comes to that, remember to spoiler that shit and include plenty of trigger warnings.

When they come to get me, what will they be armed with? And who will come to get me? The same soldiers and officers that overwhelmingly come from blue collar conservative backgrounds? Sounds like you're setting yourself up for some Pinochet fun time.

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Not an argument. Try harder. I can smell the smoke coming out of your ears from here.

Was anything of actual value lost? I'm guessing no.

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For it to be an inconvenient truth, it has to actually be true. Then again, it's not like you actually pay attention to concrete evidence when it inconveniences you.

For example, here's numerous stories of armed citizens using their second amendment rights to protect civilians:
nraila.org/gun-laws/armed-citizen

Of course, you can't help but use intellectual dishonesty to win your arguments, since arguing on a rational and honest level is too much for someone like you.

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So French kids have to die for white privilege. over a hundred have to die. It didn't end in the theater it spilled out into the streets. That's pretty fucked up

There's literally nothing wrong with being racist.

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And in total, from 2007-2011, they represent 0.8% of victim responses to violent crime.

#TruthHurts #DealWithIt

Get a life, stormderp.

This is an actual picture of learningcode btw

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Well, since it's you, Turner Diaries reader.

Battle of Athens, Tennessee
Bundy incidents
LA Riots
Battles of Jones during the Civil War

that's not wise science
if you want to prove the efficiency or non-efficiency of gun ownership of the victim of violent crimes, then you'll have to compare
- violent crimes where victims had no gun
- violent crimes where victims had a gun
- violent crimes involving multiple people where x victims had a gun
which is very difficult because
- "having a gun" may have different meanings (do we count having one in the car when you're being killed just outside?)
- many crimes have a purpose that is not killing in itself, like robbery; comparison would include at least two questions: has the life being saved, has the attacker's result been achieved
- other crimes have killing as the only purpose, in which case comparison is made simple
- in any case, there is probably no statistic ever made about gun ownership of those killed by guns

This is the kind of statistics only the FBI could start to do.
In any case, this does not change the fact that the US government fears its own citizens only like a tyranny would. In this light, the ratio of power has to be made up - by armed citizens who can revolt against the state if need be.

Jesus! thats a guy with with teens in his basement.

I'm sure you've heard this before, but the problem is never the guns themselves, it's who's using them.

For example, Switzerland has one of the highest gun ownership rates in the world, with nearly 1 in 2 citizens owning a gun, and they have the 10th lowest homicide rate in the world.

(mythdebunk.com/are-these-claims-about-switzerlands-gun-ownership-true/)

In America, according to table 43, over half of the homicides in this country are committed by the Democratic party's voter base. (There's no data for Hispanics because they're lumped in with whites - which hugely inflates the white crime rate - but I'll bet you'll find similarly high numbers among that portion of the population.)

The people responsible for the crimes you mention in your data aren't the stereotypical white, rural law-abiding gun owners who are usually the target of, and would be punished the most by gun control laws. No, they're niggers.

If we enacted nigger control, you'd see a decrease in gun violence.

Rach poster, you call for the death of the innocent concert attendees because their white? No rainbow hair candy girl gonna pity touch your tranny cock if you say shit like that.

Massive tl;dr rambling here so I'll boil your points down to the basics. Feel free to call strawman if you want - you stormderps always do when you get proven wrong - but if you do, back it up by clarifying your position (or, more likely, changing it completely and claiming that you were misunderstood).

Nope. Why would it? People use drugs and drink alcohol all the time, so of course banning those backfired - it's part of everyday life. Who but criminals use guns daily? Oh right, no one.
And? These things still exist today, only they're legal. Banning them is the first step to being rid of them.
I don't see how that's anyone's problem but yours, stormderp. Your argument here rests on your ability to prove an unquantifiable belief. I'd say it's time to hang your hat on a better argument instead of a "Well I think".
Then why, as clearly stated in the OP you didn't finish reading, was only 0.6% of firearm violence was committed in gun-free school zones?
Entire civilizations have been forgotten across the globe, and even with our modern technology we're only just beginning to scratch at the tip of the iceberg. Yet you think that somehow we can't memory hole a single invention?
An unproven assertion. I'll let you gather the actual data to back this up, if any exists. I'm certainly not going to do the research for you, lazy manpig.

And how do criminals protect the existence illegal markets? Oh right, with guns. So, will the demand for guns fall if they're banned? Maybe if the feds somehow win the war on drugs.

How was firearm violence measured in those statistics you posted: incidents, or number of deaths/injuries per incident?


Lol are you really this daft?

fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/tables/table-43

(Also, be sure to note the population size of blacks vs. whites.)

Check - 93.4% of the time. (Pic related, btw.)
Check - 0.8% of the time.
Also likely a check, but it's open for dispute because the report doesn't stratify crimes by number of victims.
Good thing we have professionals on the case then, isn't it. :)
Actually, the data comes from a combination of sources, including the Bureau of Justice Statistics, the School-Associated Violent Deaths Surveillance Study, Supplemental Homicide Reports (the lone FBI document used - are you going to falsely claim victory now and stomp off?), the Survey of Inmates in State Correctional Facilities, and the Survey of Inmates in Federal Correctional Facilities. The actual compilation of facts was done by the BJS.
Bullshit, prove it. If we're so feared by our government, why do we still have free and open elections? What about free speech? Internet access? Quality investigative journalism?

Alright then, what percentage of all deaths in the U.S do mass shooting victims comprise of?

You do realize that the black market will still be available to mass shooters?

Because they believe we'd start a civil war if they removed it, and they gotta look like the bigger man after all, don't they?

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Check - 0.8% of the time.

Lol I don't think you understand what he was saying. Those statistics you posted don't explicitly state whether or not the victims had a gun when they were attacked.

So 0.8% of people using a firearm in self defense could just mean 0.8% of the victims in this study were carrying firearms. Which, if it were the case, would demonstrate the effectiveness of firearms for self defense.

No. If you're wanting to use stats to prove your point, dig them up yourself. I did that much for my arguments, you do it for yours. That's how it works, stormderp.

lol this faggot is so desperate for attention he actually spends time and effort cooking these posts up
Sad!

Okay, well then what sources do you have that objectively prove the U.S. government doesn't fear it's constituents.

And, no, rhetorical questions don't count.

I know this is bait and guaranteed replies but I'll bite anyways, rachel maddow fetish poster. (no really, this level of dedication of posting purely images of rachel maddow would warrant mental health concern and severe obsession. Seek help. I am concerned for you, OP)

Most of the gun fear to those that haven't even fired a firearm before seem to more derive from an innate instinctual fear of "guns make loud noises and people fall over dead".

That being said, a person having ill intent to do severe harm to an individual will find WHATEVER MEANS to achieve it. People have been killing other people long before guns ever came into the picture, and that isn't even limited to swords and bows. Just about anything can be used as a weapon. Hell, a /k/ nut could create something equally as deadly as a custom made sling shot and a few dollars worth of steel balls you can find in a local grocery store. Hell even a hard piece of candy when applied to a sturdy slingshot can do some nasty damage.

Which leads me to another point, sure the ban on guns will keep convenient means of acquiring those firearms from the local populace, but that would create a rising boom in the black marketed and smuggling industries. On top of that, there isn't anything stopping someone from acquiring and going about the means of creating their own firearms and ammunition (and that isn't even limited to just 3d printers). There are people who do firearms and be their own general smiths as a hobby.

And I'm sure damn sure that the san bernadino 2 shooters had IEDs all in their garage, which if I recall correctly is illegal as fuck. But criminals out there with the intent to commit to those crimes won't even bother following those laws.

But you're just a shitposting bot, so you'd only be as intelligent as your liberal programmer.

Here, I'll do the sifting for you on this one, since it's my source:

not an argument

Of course it comes to this.

Kill learningchode, the one who uses his rachposting and the mods who enable it.

Lol what? If you're going to make an assertion, you have to be able to back it up. You asked the other guy for a source, so why wouldn't the same be required of you?

What even is this? I thought Garyposters were supposed to act all arrogant and cocky, yet have some level of actual intellect and ability to back it up. The self-righteousness is surely there, yet where's the intelligence? The substance? The logical, well-reasoned argument? Nowhere to be found.

You're acting like an epileptic 10-year-old, user. I'll have to ask you to condense your ridiculous ranting into a cogent point - or two, if you can manage.

And what assertion did I make? I merely demanded proof and asked the shitposting user a few questions regarding his unproven point.

So far, I'm the only pyrsyn ITT to provide any source for my claims. When will the rest of you stop shitposting and get on board the Fact Train? Choo choo!

I know, yet they continue to shitpost. I'm trying to get them to think for themselves and break free of the matrix the oppressive alt-right media has trapped them in, but it seems to be all for naught.

That would be because guns are still legal. I can't believe anyone still gives this Jew attention. When you get doxxed and someone decides to smash your computer (and your face) you'll be sorry.

Okay, fine. Those statistics still don't indicate that guns ought to be banned. What exactly was the nature of the violent crimes these individuals were victim to? There's a reason these people didn't defend themselves.

you forgot your herb, friend

Rach and every faggot who bumped his thread should be banned

sage

Maddow Posting should be an instant ban.

"your acceptance of gun ownership is not required you will bend the knee or we will make your lies come true" - martin luther

Hope you enjoyed this thread.

Because its over now.

This is now a
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Firearm ownership has been ingrained in American culture for centuries. I know hobbyists and hunters who use them daily. There are more than enough firearms in circulation for every man woman and child. To remove this is to remove what is perceived by over a hudred million people an essential part of American culture. Good luck dealing with the resulting shitstorm.

Banning files from the internet? Have you been paying attention? Those files have been illegal since they were released and will be until Wilson wins his court case (he's been doing well with the support of the EFF). Regardless, you can find them in 2 minutes on the Pirate Bay. I have several copies on my harddrives as back up. Hit me up if you want a copy.

I'm saying your statistics are shit because they don't give the full picture. My job is research and I spend a lot of my day dealing with faulty claims derived from data so flawed that I don't understand how they even got published.

lol I seriously had a chuckle. Maybe most of America doesn't consist of school zones? Maybe we should demolish inner-city neighborhoods and replace them with acres of gun-free school zones.

Yeah, I'm making that wager. Good luck. I really want to see that attempt. It would make a great novel.

A minority of the population continues to commit the majority of violent crimes, with or without guns. You may not be able to see this locked up in your gated community, but there is an epidemic of violence and black males are disproportionately contributing. I wish that wasn't the case but it is.

I always enjoy our bantz whenever they happen, Rach-kun. I hope we have many more.

I should've included this earlier, but, of the 32% who were armed, what percentage of them fought back?

It isn't 0.8%, that number includes those who were unarmed as well.

It'd also be interesting to hear how successful each of those responses was in deterring violent crime.

Schizo, or paid disruptor.

Either way, the sagefags are retarded.

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Wow, you're new.

Thank you, blue faggot.

No, I'm old, and I'm sick of this shit.

We're taking it back.

How did this board get so nasty all of a sudden.

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Well Murders per capita is much higher in Britain than in America
Surprised you commies hate guns when they're the greatest equaliser there is

DO. NOT. BUMP. DYKE. THREADS.

fuck off cunt boy
sage all

Sure is newfag in here

Jesus Christ.

And how would the Cops protect themselves?

Now how do you plan on actually doing this, madcuck?

Keep in mind youtube related

Must. Sharpen. Claws.

the only way to respond to anti gunners

DROWN YOURSELF IN SEMEN

You just bumped the thread, twice. Who is the newfag?


why are you retards bumping the thread?

Remove all the niggers and America will look so peaceful that Europe would be an islamic shithole in comparison.

We can put red pills in the thread.

Gaddafi did nothing wrong you nigger

Then erase him you kike.

Reasons to ban non-whites from teh United states
per capita, non-whites commit far more violent crime than whites

the safest areas in the country are those that are 99+% white

if i didn't have a gun, would i be able to kill you?
if there's a 67% probability of your victim having a gun, are you more or less likely to commit a crime against this person than if that person had a 2% probability of having a gun?
what's the difference in firearm violence percentages between gun-free and non-gun-free school zones?
firearm violence is just 8% of all violence, as you stated.
when firearms are used, a pretty tense issue can be assumed.
you compare this to all other acts of violence, which range in intensity.
if you were to adjust the massive 92% of the other crimes for the circumstance of these cases, you could find that all the stats favor situations when firearms are involved.

is this some kind of test?

the second amendment and the reason for it.
to protect yourself from criminals who, if you didn't know, don't obey laws. drugs are illegal and yet…

if you don't like it, perhaps you should move to mexico.

bah, i forgot the greentext just below "school zones?"
fuck me for never proofreading.

Not everyone can make it to retirement age, user.
Social security is fucked otherwise.

The only thing you need to do to show the ineffectiveness of a "gun free zone" in the united states is point to Chicago and perhaps that recent shooting in Orlando.

It just doesn't work. And expanded across the entire country all you've done is create an even bigger black market for criminals to acquire them.
You think a criminal isn't going to get their hands on a weapon to commit criminal acts? You're a fucking retard.

And what are you going to do? Ban the sale? Ok but what about the millions already in circulation? Going to hope they all just break down eventually? Run out of ammo?
Are you going to go door to door to try to take them away?
Good luck with that. Going to end up with a whole lot of dead government officials.

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IGNORE THESE THREADS

DON’T BUMP THE THREAD, YOU FUCKING FAGGOT

Making good people helpless will NOT make bad ones harmless.

>>>/oven/
>>>/gaschamber/
>>>/auschwitz/
pick any three, you fucking disgusting, commie kike shill. Remember that banning guns because of terrorists and criminals is EXACTLY like banning sober people from owning cars because of drunk drivers.

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Is the fucking site down again?

This thread is great, but we have a golden opportunity RIGHT NOW to redpill a bunch of people on rapefugees!

Google just made a #worldrefugeeday video. Threads related here

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#worldrefugeeday is also trending on twatter

'sup rach

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I wonder, chemichaly, what happens inside a liberal brain when they they start being faced with reality, it must be quite shocking.

Drown yourself in semen.

How many of these were committed with a legally owned firearm?
If firearms were illegal to own, would a new law deter these criminals from owning them? Bearing in mind that the law is not enough to deter them from violent crime or murder?

You're forgetting that at least 13000 out of 478400 firearm crimes are fatal homicides.

fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8

You're full of shit, but what can I expect from a leftist.

2/10; made me reply

Oh wait, I was wrong. It was LESS than 9 thousand.

So, 8500 of 478400 firearm crimes were fatal firearm homicdes.

You're still bumping a dyke thread.

sorry, my bad

I think this is one of the best trolls I've seen on all of the chans.

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Exactly my point. That's 13,000 deaths that would've been prevented if America would've just gotten its shit together and banned all guns.

Reported for shitpost unrelated to the thread.

learning kike is being very obvious today.

Fellate a gun.

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fuck rach!

Unless there are any of my fellow strong, independent womyn here, that'd have to be a no.

That's literally what you have the police for. "To serve and protect" - does that ring any bells?

gas jewrself

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I'm sexually attracted to her, its sick and wrong but it feels so right.

Sage the thread, you cocksucking faggot.

Git gon, son.

You dumb faggot.

I killed this thread once, did you think I wouldn't do it again?

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I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as gun control, is in fact, Marxism/Gun Control or as I've recently taken to calling it, Marxism plus Gun Control. Gun Control is not a law to prevent crime unto itself, but rather another component of a fully functioning Marxist system made useful by current year policies, affirmative action and anti-white sentiment comprising full social justice as defined by MARX.

Many social justice warriors run a modified version of the Marxist system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of Marxism which is widely used today is often called "Social Justice", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the Marxist system, developed by the Karl Marx.

There really is a social justice, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Marxism is the foundation: the beliefs in the system that allocates the fee fees over reals. The Marxism is an essential part of a social justice, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete Orewellian system. Social justice is normally used in combination with Marxism; the whole system is basically Marxism with Social justice, or Social Justice/Marxism All the so-called "Social Justice" warriors are really distributions of SocialJustice/Marxism.

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Enjoy what time you have left, faggot.

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Democrats are the ones who want to ban guns, Republicans are the ones who want to keep guns.

Most of the violent shootings are done by Democrats.
Republicans want their guns to PROTECT themselves from these Democrats.

Democrats saying "ban guns" are essentially saying "put your gun down so I can shoot you"

If what you want to do is curb crime, banning guns won't do anything except maybe make crime rates increase. Ban non-whites from America and our crime rate would drop by over half.

[citation needed]
Here's evidence that you're wrong, by the way:
breitbart.com/2nd-amendment/2016/06/14/mitch-mcconnell-says-he-may-be-open-to-post-orlando-gun-control/
usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2016/06/20/senate-gun-vote-after-orlando-shooting/86143418/
newsweek.com/mitch-mcconnell-guns-terrorism-gun-control-orlando-shooting-omar-mateen-isis-470468?piano_d=1
thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/284073-trump-orlando-clubgoers-should-not-have-had-guns

[citation needed]
Here's evidence that you're wrong, by the way:
storify.com/BenjaminNorton/lafayette-shooter-was-a-right-wing-tea-party-suppo
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Lee_Loughner#Views_on_politics

[citation needed]
[citation needed]
Further, as the data I provided in the OP proves, banning guns would decrease crime (a 69% decrease in homicides and 25% decrease in robberies), and even assuming that your first point ("put your gun down so I can shoot you") is accurate, it would only have an impact on 0.8% of firearm-related crimes. #AnInconvenientTruth #DealWithIt

FOR FUCK'S SAKE
STOP POURING FUEL ON THE FIRE AND LET IT BURN OUT
MAKE IT SO PIC RELATED HAS TO DOUBLE, TRIPLE AND QUADRUPLEPOST HIS THREAD TO THE TOP SHORT OF HAVING THE ADMINS STICKY THIS THREAD FOR HIM BECAUSE YOU RETARDS KEEP RESPONDING

Next faggot to bite the b8 gets reported since it's plainly obvious learningchode has good relations with the jannies of Holla Forums and because he removed his ID this is the only way to be heard.

[Citation needed]

newsday.com/long-island/crime/new-hyde-park-man-had-9-illegal-assault-weapons-cops-say-1.11678577
fox61.com/2016/06/21/new-fairfield-man-arrested-for-making-and-selling-illegal-ar-15s/
patch.com/new-york/tarrytown/bronx-man-arrested-sprain-brook-parkway-illegal-weapons
You can't run, stormderps, nor can you hide. We will hunt every single one of you down, take your guns, and only when you have lived to see the Constitution burn shall I permit you to die.

What even?
>She removed hyr ID
Everyone on Holla Forums has a thread ID, stormderp. There's no way to remove that unless the board owner unchecks that box, which would remove them for everyone.

You have yet to provide citations for satellites finding handguns buried in the united states.

I accept your surrender.

Just like PRISM, Echelon, et al. are dragnets out to harvest massive amounts of data, so too do our satellites, and just as with the other programs, nobody is actively monitoring all of the live data.

So no, they haven't found anything yet, but when they decide to start looking, they have decades worth of data already there. The entire Earth, 24/7. You can't do anything outdoors without them knowing.

But I don't need you to believe this, nor do I want you to. I will relish in your cries about how you dindu nuffins as you're thrown into a FEMA camp for the attempted possession of a firearm.

nice goggle translate

The Mexican mayor of San Jose told the Mexican police chief to stand by and do nothing as foreign terrorists attacked American citizens.

I live two cities to the left of that shithole. We're buying gunS thats multiple guns with an s this summer.

I know you cant drop the act midway and admit you're one of us shitposting. I understand that you rachpost to keep us on our toes and help us hone our arguments better agains real libshits, and I think it's a good thing. But you repeatedly make appeals to authority, and someone could jave demolished you by pointing it out. Nice flamebait btw.

BAN NIGGERS

breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2016/06/23/john-mellencamp-billy-joel-musicians-sign-letter-gun-control

Zionist tools, all of them. Give these whores the finger

Most of them are possessed by demons anyway, all they deserve is to be shunned like the "media" they whore for! The more they get shunned, the more their SJW lie falls apart!

Working their whore asses for the Illuminati UN - Clooney, Jolie, Watson, DiCaprio, nothing but slaves for their cancer system. Let them celebrate themselves, they are insolent little wretches, shitting on all of humanity, Better start shitting on them!

you stupid cunt

Typical stormderp doublethink.

Reasons to Ban Rach-Faggot from 8-chan
Despite being on an anonymous imageboard, Rach-fag feels the need to have an identity. This defeats the entire purpose of anonymity.
This one for example. What part of "Shall not be infringed" is unclear?
If the faggot could just post without avatarfagging, it wouldn' be an issue.
Rach is a shit.
How many fucking pictures of her do you even have?

What, because I think it would be prudent to protect my family from criminal invaders? Try again, hole for brains.

The one world cancer has outlived itself. De-centralization is the future, they are the past. A bunch of pretentious old fags, playing at running the world. Newsflash kikes: the world has had enough of you! A new dawn is approaching and with it, the cry of a billion slaves, demanding their freedom.

FOR KEK AND LIBERTY

No Rach. Anything that is explicitly stated in the Bill of Rights is a right. Not everything that is legally allowed is a right. Inconveniently enough for you, the 2nd amendment exists.

That pic is actually contains a good argument. Not the best one, but a pretty good one. Thanks for posting it.

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stop giving that faggot credit. the threads are lame; the posts are lame. no one is keeping anyone on their toes. rachposter is just full-on autistic.

ban rachposter now

Have a little faith brother. Things are on the up and up for us right now.

I don't need a reason to own as many guys as I want, it's my right.

Gun grabber dyke lefitie scum

Kike dyke is now the bald kid from Minority Report.

This must be the high point of your day.

But the cops wasn't fascist pig scum who just exist to press the PoC(person of crime), you lefite dyke scum.

Enough to last us until the apocalypse, and beyond.

Was that post supposed to make any amount of sense? Because it didn't. At all.

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I really enjoy Rach poster. She adds a lot of color and diversity of thought to the stagnant groupthink of Holla Forums.

He's a faggot from Canada. He's nothing but a giant Troll.

Oh, and:
cnn.com/2014/08/11/tech/innovation/spy-satellites-fighting-crime-from-space/

Of all the things you could do in life, you choose to spend your free time making bait threads and avatarfagging. I know right now you're probably giggling about it to yourself, but do you really think when you're on your deathbed, reflecting on the life you led, you'll look back on this and think "I did good"?

I'm not going to talk down to you, I just genuinely want you to take a step back and think about what you're doing.

You shouldn't poke fun at stronk lybryl wymyn, user!

I hate the rach autist poster so much. Its the most pol triggering meme and he knows it pls stop :(

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Quoted for truth.

This tbh fam, although it could do with 100% less racism.

You know, I could get this bullshit on the actual MSNBC if I wanted to.

This is not MSNBC.

seriously you niggers
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Holla Forums had me thinking her entire career was a meme but apparently old liberal faggots watch her

forgot sage

Do it. Report . I dare you.

Haven't you been banned enough times? Reported

This is what a stormderp looks like.

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l0l yeah guns cause so much crime

how about instead of being so deluded you take the time to realize there's many more causes of crime than just guns

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Mods are definitely compromised. I was just banned for shitposting about sand niggers and niggers, yet Rach is totally fine.

Nice community, but the mods are definitely fags. The Rach shit has been going on for how long? Either the mods make exceptions for some shitposting and ban for other types of shitposting.

Granted, I accept my part for making a lame thread, but Rach does this shit several times a week and it always stays.

Yeah, the mods are pretty much fags.

Holy shit, Rach is actually right.

Why the fuck have we never used our 2nd amendment right against the leftists?

Reasons to ban OP: total faggot.

Don't worry, it'll never happen.

Either one of the mods themselves is Rach and the other mods look the other way for some reason, or they like to make special exceptions for some shitposters and ban others.

Has it ever been explained why Rach is allowed to post here and the threads aren't pruned/deleted?

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You were apealing to authority though. Greentext won't save you here.
Making the claim that handguns would be found by satalites was false, therefore a critical misstep; so much so that you ceded the argument. Your third argument is moving the goalposts so it goes directly in the trash.

That's neat! Too bad that you have yet to provide citations that satalites can find buried handguns.

You're really great at strawmanning! Too bad I'm really great at disqualifying your arguments in fron of everyone :^).

Ask me how I know you aren't from here.

No rebuttle so strawman.

Flat out lie, strawman, and bottom of the pyramid name calling

So you're admitting that using any kind of statistics is an appeal to authority, in your mind? Way to out yourself as an anti-science nutjob. Then again, all you stormderps are when it suits you.
No, it wasn't. I've already posted proof that satellites are currently being used in criminal investigations, and as I've said, finding buried guns is on its way - the relevant law has yet to be passed making hiding firearms illegal.
Because, again, the Cohen Act hasn't been passed. Why would they be used for that purpose before it becomes necessary? The information gathering is there, but there's simply no reason to monitor it.
Adding information to make a point abundantly clear to your infinitesimally small manpig brain isn't shifting goalposts, stormderp. If you'd like an example of that logical fallacy, look to your own posts, with all their poor spelling and grammar.
Where? The only one I see is the one you've been wailing on. :^)

To have used that term so egregiously incorrectly, you obviously must not know what that it even means. Here, I'll help you out:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies
Nice buzzwords, junior, but really, read the link I've just given you. It'll help you better yoursylf.

1) You WERE making appeals to authority. Name calling will not save you here.
2) you have yet to provide evidence that buried handguns can be found by satallites
3) Irrelevant. You have yet to provide evidence that buried handguns can be found by satallites. Saying "just trust me I know" is both wrong and guess what!? Its an appeal to authority, AND it's anecdotal evidence.
4) Adding an additional win modifier for yourself that was irrelevant to the original argument is the textbook example of moving the goalposts. Name calling wont save you here.
5) "I don't see any strawman" Well I'll help you find one! "no one is monitoring you!" Literally no one made that claim. You pretended someone did. That is a straw man.

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Congratulations, right in front of everyone, you've just made a fool of yourself. You even posted a link that destroyed your own argument. That's De-licious.

I accept your surrender.

Nice dubs

Ty, but y'all shouldn't have bumped this thread, broseph.

It was locked when I replied.
Saging a locked thread is just grounds for attack.

Didn't even realize it (on mobile).

Sage

Get fucked kike

Living in America and being American are not the same thing.
You could be a (((globalist))) and (((globalists))) aren't americans