I actually had no problem the ending on paper. I just hated how it was executed...

I actually had no problem the ending on paper. I just hated how it was executed, since Asami had so little screentime and barely interacted with Korra save for a few moments. I wasn't a big fan of Aang and Katara's romance either, but at least the two had more screen time.

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GASP DO THIS SHITLORD SAY KORRASAMI IS FLAWED IN ANYWAY?

SEXIST CIS SHITLORDS LIKE YOU DESERVE TO DIE.

You think im joking but seriously, most people reacted more on what you just said then the fact that they were Lesbos when criticizing the ending, SJWs just acts like the only reason possible to dislike it is MUH SOGGYKNEES.

Yeah, that's sadly the biggest flaw of the whole thing. Even if they couldn't just come out and say "they gay for eachother" just a few more scenes of them together in the last season. Hell, didn't they have more scenes together in season 1 and 3 (probably not 2, because I don't even remember what Asami did in season 2)? They could have skipped the whole recap episode and put in more Korra/Asami time. I don't remember the rest of the season enough to say what else they could have cut, but that was a big one.

If a 3rd show ever happens, I hope they find the balance on the romance stuff. Season 1 fucking DRAGGED forever on it, and season 4 just rushed it hard. When do those comics come out?

I'm astounded anyone watched this shit after the embarrassing disappointment that was Season 1. Coming on the heels of Avatar, I was shocked and appalled at what I saw on my screen. I mean, I know Avatar had a rough start at first too, but wow, was it bad.

Trainwreck Syndrome.

At east that was my case, after that first season i kept watching to see how they could KEEP fucking up even worse.

And i do mean Trainwreck, not multi-track drifting "so bad, it is good".

That's great, but we're talking about lesbians.

Katara and Aang's relationship was actually built up over the three season, their friendship, attraction, and eventual love all developed on screen. Hell, Katara even had a few other crushes over the course of the show, which is good, that's normal.

Compare that to Korra and Asami. In S1 Korra made aggressive moves on Mako and was the instigator of him cheating on her. She was a rude, jealous bitch and stole the bf of the girl who abandoned her only family to protect them.

S2, Asami was barely even there.

S3, this is where we begin to see a few, FEW moments of friendly interaction and an actual platonic relationship between the the two. In the finale, Asami practically abandons rebuilding her family business to help Korra recover from the poison. This was the moment. If they really wanted to naturally develop this relationship, this was the time to commit. This was where it could really build.

S4, Korra abandoned everyone she knew and didn't speak to anyone for three years. She wrote one letter to Asami eventually, but that's hardly indicative of anything. She calls Asami pretty when they see eachother again. Plot plot plot plot one scene in the recap plot plot Spirit World vacation hand holding true love. What?

It's clear at some point during S3 Asami fell for Korra, but we don't see when that happened. Hell, Asami really shouldn't be friends with any of these people. Double hell, Asami's barely a fucking CHARACTER. Once they decided not to go with the spy arc, they really just had nothing for her to do than love triangle bs. Asami's just there to invent shit, give money, get cucked, and have her dad die. She has no character.

Aang and Katara were both characters. Korra was a piece of shit and Asami was a pretty face. There are SO many problems with their "relationship" from a storytelling standpoint but hey, it panders, so who cares if it's shit. It's important shit.

Apparently the reason for the recap episode was that Nick was slashing half the show's budget and it was either this or layoff most of the animation staff.
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If that didn't happen do you think they would've ripped off Ember Island Players?

Do you think they'd try to retroactively push Korrasami on us?

I didn't like Ember Island Players.

Which is exactly what Bryke was counting on.

I ended up watching the 3rd and 4th season a few months after the 4th ending and being spoiled about the relationship.

While there was a few moments between Asami and Korra, it seemed more like a concerned female friend worrying about another female instead of a romantic relationship between two women.

If they were both men though, the gay relationship may have been more obvious (due to men not really getting concerned/less close with one another unlike woman who can get really close to one another and still be seen as straight friends).

Also the idea of a children's TV show on Nick having a gay relationship was something no one thought they could actually do.


I don't think most animated series even need to put much romance in, the shippers will ship anyone and anything together even if they are siblings.

The problem is Bryke got too into the shipping part of the fandom, and it shows in their writing.

They really needed to keep Aaron and his wife on board.

The Avatar wiki is just pure full on cancer when it comes to that. There's one on there who is especially a massive Bryke shill and cocksucker.

Korrasami was a last minute attempt to pander to shippers and SJWs in the wake of the show's sinking ratings and bashing by critics. Any claims that Nick's suits wouldn't let them have girl-girl falls apart when you look at Nick's history with such subjects.

Korra really suffered from the Wonder Woman issue that plagues Stronk Womyn characters. She was portrayed as TOO great, TOO shining, TOO amazing, and so of all the major male characters within her age group none of them came off as worthy of her in the end. Women are expected to marry up, not marry down. By Book 4 Korra had no male options who weren't beneath her (especially Mako) or were otherwise not passable. And since none of the men are an option you go with a woman.

OMFG YOU FUCKING MORON
DON'T YOU KNOW THAT BRYKE WANTED TO DO THIS SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE SEASON?

What history?

Having faggotry.

Since what?

Spongebob doesn't count. He's retarded, not a fag.

Even then…I just think even if this "ship" was properly done, it's still a problem because again..the "romance" in LoK is a damn plot tumor.

The logic behind every fucking piece of "progressive" media ever. It doesn't matter if it's dogshit, the entire fate of the representation of oppressed peoples depend on this badly written relationship! Just how fucking pathetic are you to base your entire identity on whether or not a character is a lesbian in a cartoon?

What problems does it have exactly?

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They just BARELY show interest in eachother, let alone women.


Did you not read a single other thing in my post?

Korra and Asami's dynamic in Books Three and Books Four had nothing that would be offputing if done by straight women who are BFFs. Shippers and SJWs hopped on them being gay and Bryke with DiMartino caught that so they pandered to them.

Majority of bad ideas look good on paper, user.

The pairing wouldn't be that bad, if it was heavily thought over from the very start and handled with care, but that would be asking too much from Bryke who wanted to appease the shipfags and tumblr. Then again, it's VERY fucking obvious in the first season that they had no interest to each other or any of the female characters, so of course it's poorly executed because it's just plain pandering to shit shipfags.

Sadly true, but in some way that would have been understandable, if Asami knew that Korra was the instigator of fucking up her relationship with Mako. Then again, if that was the case, that would mean Bryke and anyone whose involved in the writing had some understanding on what they're trying to do.

To each their own, but at least you gave some credit that there was more screen time between those two.

It didn't need that. It just needed the last two seasons to correct that. You could see some points where they started but they just… DIDN'T follow through like they needed to. They needed to develop Asami's character and a mutual attraction. It'd be rushed, but at least it'd be SOMETHING as opposed to the absolute NOTHING they have.

But maybe we're all just viewing things through our hetero-lens like Brian said and not seeing the clear and obvious love between the two.

Bryke is a portmanteau of Brian and Michael. Might be Bryan now that I type it out.

Fair point, it would have given some substance to that relationship, but like you said it'd be rushed. However, them getting together gives a bad aftertaste. Logically, would anyone want to be with someone that screwed over your past romantic relationship.

Or maybe we have standards, and Brian doesn't want to admit he has shit taste and sucks at writing.

I hate korrassami. There is fan service. Then there's whoring yourself out for tumblr

Logically, Asami shouldn't want to friends with any of them, let alone in a relationship. The ex who cheated, the girl he cheated with, and his brother? She should've washed her hands of them after her failed relationship.

This is very true, and would not be surprised if Asami turned into an antagonist protagonist because of those three.

In pure honesty, I think both Asami and Bolin should never be involved with Korra or Mako. Those two characters got shafted in so many ways.

There's a post where someone points out how Future Industries was supplying both sides of the conflict the whole time. That's as close as we'll get to villain Asami. On the one hand, they didn't recycle the villain redemption arc with her. On the other, she had nothing going for her character other than that and the love triangle.


Mako should've dropped Korra after she kissed him in from of Bolin while the two of them were in a relationship. Really, why are ANY of these people friends?

Shit I keep forgetting to unsage.

Found the post.

A shame that she's underutilized and only used for those two concepts, but then again, Asami felt like a minor major character for the first season.

Bryke. And I agree, none of these people should be friends or should ever be involved with Korra.


Interesting.

Yeah, once they took away her antagonist role, she was reduced to tag along.


That post actually explains her friendship with them. Good press after her dad getting arrested. With her Samaritan efforts in aiding the Avatar, being the Avatar's lover, and her humanitarian efforts from re-building the city who's destruction she funded, she could make an easy bid for president of Republic City.

She's kind of like Lex Luthor in that regard.

That's not really true, bros stick with bros more than any two women friends do.

The issue with Korra and Asami was never that they were lesbians, it was always just how out of left field the whole thing was.

It would've been just as retarded if Korra had walked off into the sunset with, like, a fucking background character, since that's essentially what Asami is.

Well shit, that would have been an interesting twist. Too bad Bryke and the writers for LoK are incompetent.

I actually didn't think Book 1 was too bad, upon reflection. Hell, it's the best book in the show in my eyes, even if that isn't saying much.

Thank you for making sure I will never, ever see more than 1 season of this show.

Funny, most people say S3 was only season worth it.

She also looks like Lust, and all those Feme Fatal types in general.

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She actually was meant to be a villain, specifically an Equalist spy. But Bryke apparently liked the character too much to take this route.

Asami was designed as an enemy character. Bryke digged her design so they made her join Team Korra instead.


They tried to make the Mako/Bolin/Asami Trio serve as Korra's answer to the non-Aang members of the Gaang. Through a combination of direction shifts during production and an overall failure to keep them relevant as the show went on this didn't work.

An issue with the Mako/Bolin/Asami Trio is that they were designed for Book One's setting and overarching conflict. So when later Books traveled out of Republic City and had separate overarching conflicts from Book One's Equalist movement the Trio were bounced around the world to find them places in later Books. So you get Detective Mako taking on Varrick (invented so that the Trio could have an enemy to fight until Unalaq attacked Republic City), Asami serving as gadget mule and cheerleader, and Bolin being a failed Sokka.This of course didn't work.

I suspect that Asami being kept around for so long also had something to do with her voice actress making some cash in another project and so they upgraded her into a full-time cast member to pander to her.

Here's something I never understood: Tumblrinas and SJWs say that there is a "crisis" of lack of representation in fiction, and as such any inclusiveness of any kind in new media must be supported no matter how bad, but isn't that worse for the long run?

If you normalize representation by calling for and condoning cheap writing and insincere virtue signaling, you are by extension normalizing exploitative pandering and arbitrary quotas on the front of minority characters. And when/if the current identity politics frenzy dies down/the writers start being held to higher standards, all the professionals will cut out the cheap gimmicks and tokenism, killing off all that oh so important "representation" along with it.

These are the same people who complain about 80s and 90s era exploitation-movies, and all they do is revive the sentiment and make it more prevalent than ever before.

Season Three had a shoddy lead bad man.

Kuvira was the only lead antagonist after Amon who came off as having more effort put into her. And even she failed (see how much of her character depended on telling over showing).

More like.

But they didn't though. This was a highly contested thing that we got an answer from the sources themselves.

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All the sources point that they did, Bryan, Mike, and some behind the scenes producers.

They didn't. Before it became canon, Bryke laughed their asses off at Korrasami being popular. The official word was that Bryan brought it up as a joke early on. It was a joke. That's all it ever was.
Even when they got serious about it, it was still a joke.

I'm still skeptical. Can you show me where it was a joke? I don't think anyone can disprove that "Timeline"

bryankonietzko.tumblr.com/post/105916338157/korrasami-is-canon-you-can-celebrate-it-embrace


Don't let their 'W-WE PLANNED IT ALL ALONG' crap fool you, they didn't and they joked about it until they wanted to go with what other media was doing at the time and randomly announce at the end that the two were lesbians.

Honestly even if you bring that up in an argument, the cunts that shill for Bryan and Mike will say "
as they'll just say "He meant he was the first shipper and PITCHED it not that they PLANNED IT!"

Wow, its like gender-bending George Soros.

HURRR

They probably planned a Zuko-esque redemption arc, but decided for her to be a perfect goody goody.

I doubt that, frankly it's possible that what they're telling us is just what they want us to know. Since no one knows what happens behind the scenes of Korra, no one can really confirm or deny this. A bunch of useful idiots will believe this, of course, but those who have any since of awareness and are just flat out not naive or retarded can spot this lie.

Bryke's a cunt

->tumblr is that way

I didn't create the timeline

Still tumblr

it wasnt tumblr, it was one of those wikipedia sites

This retarded gay romance wasn't even supposed to exist, they just did it because they knew Korra was in the shitter and nobody liked it as much as Avatar. Considering the fact that the last two seasons were utter shit and that a giant mecha was the only thing they could dish out, pandering to the tumblr lgbtqiaqlmnopbbq crowd was the only way they could stay relevant and bring a whole knew crowd of white knights to defend them and put them on a pedestal. When you go out of your way to pander to retarded shippers in order to save your show, you know you've hit rock bottom.

All in all, the show should've died after the first seasons and stayed a mini-series as was intended. Conclusive, no fucking with past characters, loose ends tied up romance with Mako, and Mako the actor's name wouldn't have been dragged through the mud for the sake of pandering to retarded fans and turning him into the show's punching bag, and also most of you here probably would've supported this ship if it had started in season 3 despite that this bullshit was nothing but fanmade bullshit from day one that had no relevance to the series as a whole since Korra and Asami barely even knew each other, you bunch of faggots.


Ugh…

You mean a wiki? Those shits are unreliable as all hell. I should know, I used to be a major editor on the Avatar Wiki before that Bahamutt fag and his sjw and Korrasami cronies rolled on in.

What the hell is this tumblr logic? Might as well admit you ship Poe and Finn while you're at it. Damn it Holla Forums.

Really? What exactly happened?

Basically, it started off simple enough around the end of the first season and second season. Occasionally in the relationship articles they would make edits saying "Korra and Asami have not interacted much, but they are clearly close friends whose feelings for each other grow day by day", which we quickly reverted.

Eventually midway into the second season they started becoming more common which we also reverted. But sometime nearing the end of the season or the beginning of the third season (can't remember correctly) Neo Bahamutt and several other users who were friends of his or had just joined up from tumblr (as NB and several others were posting pics on tumblr showing or reversions) started making blog posts concerning Korrasami or LGBTQIAwhatever representation in cartoons while linking to tumblr posts that had "proof" that Korrasami would be a thing or that more people should support it, other than the harmless yurifags who would draw porn all the time, and by supporting it they'd be showing support for the progressive something or other.


Eventually they started making more and more blog posts while also posting more "evidence", fanart or reasons to support it while also putting tumblr graphs into the actual relationship articles. When we tried to revert them then, we would receive messages from the fags telling us that their edits were perfectly valid and well sourced despite that we didn't take citations from fan sites, but they made arguments about how the members of said sites had "analyzed" the show and tweets and tumblr posts by those made in the show but interpreted them in ways that suited their shipping theories. By the end of the third season, the wheelchair bullshit through all rational discussion out the window, and so most users and admins had to convert to sjwism and support Korrasami since most of us wasted so many years of our pathetic lives working on the wiki, and we couldn't revert any edits or disprove any fanmade claims.

I also forgot to mention that when the Korrasami/tumblr blog posts became more common we couldn't make discussions that disagreed with them or disproved their claims without them writing a textwall detailing how we should be supportive of their fan material for the sake of diversity and all that jazz while using buzzwords that started becoming more common on the wiki. Even the most simple discussions would devolve into circlejerks and some users who called them SJWs or said that their arguments were ridiculous were even threatened by saying that their behavior was out of line.


Shit only continued to get worse and eventually I decided to leave and let the new shits take over since obviously there was nothing I could do. The wiki basically became the temple of Korrasami and even those who thought it was shit but didn't mind the morons shipping it would be forced into outcast, not through banning (unless they dared to be even remotely politically incorrect) but by regular harassment and saying things like "you're still here?". Even our centrist or conservative users became outcasts even if they liked Korrasami or never bothered Korrasami shills or discussed it amongst themselves (unless they were muslims of course). So almost everyone either converted or left, leaving the wiki to its own declining mess and fanfiction articles.

TL;DR
Korrasami fags and sjws took over and the whole community and the quality of the content became fucked.

I tell ya, worst thing we ever did was "merging" the main wiki with the fanon wiki. Fanon wikis are aids in digital form.

Oh shit, that's the guy who came up with the timeline I posted.

This mother fucker… This fucking piece of shit and his autistic hoard. Fucking hell. No matter how many times I see this massively hypocritical and obnoxious twat the disgust I have for him remains just as strong. When I first met him I honestly thought he was Andrew Dobson, difference was that this guy still has a following and knows how to argue and twist words to gain support from white knights.

In the thread I found this one, he's shown that he's very stubborn on the idea that Korrasami was an after thought.
I'm a fan of the show myself and I figured, before hearing your experience, that he wasn't that bad and was probably right on Korrasami when I read the thread this came from.

I honestly found it creepy how he had a way of swaying people.

Can you recall the arguments with him? I assume you're an IRC user because the users on the IRC are the least pozzed of the subcommunities on that wiki.

I was. Emphasis on "was". After the series ended (I had already left by this point but occasionally came back to check up on shit), there was somewhat of a small schism, with those calling out Korrasami saying that it was forced or made no sense, and by this point Neo was effectively going out of his way to go into every discussion and blog to post his "comprehensive and detailed analysis of the Books that proved that Korrasami was clearly hinted at as far as Book 2" and he and his supporters were slowly silencing every argument that came out, and even managed to convince a few prominent anti-korrasami users that he was right thanks to putting plenty of pressure on them and having a loyal little militia behind him. One prominent thing that always got me about his supporters was how they would use the "likes" on their comments as a show of victory.

It usually went something like this.

BTW you wouldn't happen to know ChronoPinoyX do you?

Different user here but I knew him, I took his side in an argument, but by the time I joined, a large migration had occurred. You see when Korrasami was confirmed it became a witch hunt of sorts and a Stalin-esque purging of the community to turn into a safe space because, you know, tumblr.
There was this girl on the IRC who had a tumblr that supported a male-Korra ship (I can't remember the exact name) who had a lot of friends on tumblr shipping others. When Korrasami was confirmed and Bryan's attitude towards those who opposed it, she was harassed off tumblr and left the community along with others.
The funny thing is, Neo would love to proclaim that it's the Korrasami shippers who are the victim as someone would come up and argue on how it was terrible and prove their points only to have to face Neo and his collation. I'd argue with him time to time and he's exactly how you described him.
And I should say since you were a big user, the IRC is dead, the mods couldn't gain control over it anymore and so wanted a replacement chat and to police it to make sure it didn't become like the IRC. So they took a vote and activated the Special:Chat option and then stopped supporting and, as it seems, started hiding the IRC till it died which it worked, almost no one goes on there anymore and the others migrated.
The mods themselves are either useful idiots, Liberals from Europe, or flat out SJWs.
Frankly it's not worth going back there, it's far too gone. And even if you tried to stand your ground and point out how Korrasami is horrible and destroyed the community, you'll have to face Neo inevitably.

Fucking spot on man. I remember when we used to have so much fun and a wide array of discussions filled with different opinions, some of which would even occasionally be problematic. Good grief, I look at it now and think "fuck what the hell happened? How did our fun house turn into a den of strictness and bizarro conformity?".

It's all cucked now, man. And if you're wondering the Special:Chat is filled with European cuckoldry.
It's depressing to see it become a husk because any attempt to stand up leads to you being stepped on and the people who support you chicken out or are just "BTFO'd" by the mods or Neo and their drones constantly.
I mean fuck, look at what's being discussed: avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Board:General_discussion_board

I'm already feeling depressed enough as it is just looking at it. Its only a disgusting reminder that I gave a small chunk of my life to that place. I just want to remember the good times… But holy fuck, its actually gotten more ridiculous. I can only wonder how it will get if they ever announce a third Avatar cartoon. On second thought, I don't want to think about it. Things can't possibly get worse. I at least have that to look forward to.

Don't worry about that, Bryke pretty much burned all bridges with Nick and even spoke out on the movie bashing it. They're pretty much guaranteed that a third series is impossible now and if it is, thankfully (or not considering how Nick is) if a third one is announced it'll probably be done by someone else. Hopefully Aaron Ehasz will return for it, he was the one who actually made Avatar so amazing.

The moment that Korra was a stron dark-skinned woman. Tumblr latched on, when SJWs were just beginning to gain traction. Blogs like korraisnottan popped up, reprimandings fanartists for not drawing her dark enough and accusing them of being racist skin-bleaching assholes.
That was the beginning. It all went downhill from there.

And check these

AAAAAAGGHHH

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Remember the only thing they care about is the fact that Korrasami is an interracial lgbt romance and nothing more

The best part is that it's not even a fact. It's not interracial. They're both Asian, Korra's just tan.

What's sadder? Some girls actually came out as bi because of Korrasami. That's just depressing.

It makes me livid that when people want to make strong female leads they think making her act like a cunt and giving her a vagina pass for every fuck up she commits will flesh her out.

Korra is just a nasty she-male in both character design and personality wise.

Tumblrfags will call themselves anything to get attention these days.


Oh man, I remember the stir that shit cause.

my girlfriend too even though she hates Tumblr…
And lol, how so? How would these autists sperg out like?

What do you think of Lostris?

I kinda figured they'd come out lesbian more since they are considered more "cool" and "hip."

And so will they date this piece, once the pendulum swings.

It's safe to say that Korra has irreparably shattered the Avatar fanbase, and any hopes for a future series.

I mean Book 4 DID give us Kuvira, sexy femme-butch Ching Chong Mussorini who was right the entire time. But that's really it.

Probably, not only do we have zutara cancer, we have pretty much all of LoK as a second tumor. Which is a shame because with the advancing technology and the next element in line, we were going to (hopefully) have a great Earthbender
I refuse to believe that wouldn't be great.

nah it's never going to happen
if only someone recons the entire LOK from the series, it'd all be fine

Basically if Araki wrote Part 3 of ATLA.

Hell…I could come up with a good season 3 idea. Imagine the next Avatar being this private detective, the world had moved on, events of LoK was now deemed classified by the now secretive White Lotus. (So, lampooning shit like that giant mech from Season 4 is going to be fun). The history books wrote how much of a failure Korra is (also lampooning the fact that focus is more on the "romance" than her character growth)..in other words, anything related to LoK is subject to lampooning in the next series. Oh, also..the new guy basically snarks at Korra's "advice"

0/10 sexist, misogynistic, homophobic, racist and patriarchal
When will men just die?

Well, men will just die..right after women bites it first, which would happen when they finally made sexbots.

Honestly? Set it in the past. Before Aang. Even the most booming of cities are just peasant villages, really. Go back to basics.

You can even have more fun with it, since the Avatar state's "accumulated knowledge" thing basically would BE Korra now you can have a episode where it isn't released and she basically attempts to take over the life of the current Avatar while ruining everything.

Basically, you can have Korra as a one-shot villain-takes-over-the-hero plot.

Hell, make it so that her faggotry really didn't pan out (IE: More spirit attacks so even with Air Nomads helping casualties and resentment kept mounting across the years) so the current guy needs to operate in secret, and got barely ANY mastery aside from Earth because no one would be willing to teach the Avatar after the last one just made everything worse and worse to avoid the trap Korra fell into with her basically coming in too strong right from the start.

Hell, you can even justify a technology reset with "Spirits freaked out after finding out about the Superweapon that ate them and started to purge technology and the people who knew how to make it while Korra was busy fucking Asami".

I personally would go for a Noir theme myself with the tech intact, but no longer advancing.

TL;DR: Avatar is salvageable, but requires throwing LoK under the bus hard, and they would NEVER do that.

Hell, you know what was my plan to sink that Korrasami thing? Have someone revealed that Asami has been a villain all along…some non-bender person who went around being a vigilante or something.

Hell, the Noir theme is nice and all and I wouldn't mind if they mix it up with some Wuxia stuff. Think of the stuff you can do with some creative bending…like an airbender slicing someone with air blades when he snaps his fingers.

All set in a Great Depression or in a 1984 esque atmosphere

Spirit attacks left and right even some Nomads can't withstand it. Population is still shitty.

Avatars are heavily frowned upon now. All thanks to Korra's major slip ups, and all her efforts/history is reduced to nothing but lackluster romance stories or plays.

Earth Avatar can be inspired by City Hunter, Crying Freeman, Eddie Valiant, and Dick Tracy.

Like Bumi and Toph, Bolin is old as fuck, and probably is the landlord to the Earth Avatar's home.

Earth Avatar always does his best to pay the rent in time, even if it means he doesn't get anything to eat.

No fucking love triangle, and keep the romance slow burning.

You had me at City Hunter, user. Hell, this is better than what I had in mind..what with the White Lotus society having a black ops unit that's now sweeping up Korra's mess.

I'm not sure if you're still browsing this thread, user-kun. Because I made a quick edit for you.

Oops forgot to attach.

You had me at City Hunter, user.
Glad you like it, user.

It would also be interesting that the White Lotus is not highly regarded as it was before.

Basically, the White Lotus is forced to hide and stay in the shadows after Korra's mess up and now they are secretly try to find a way to a) find the next Avatar and b) close the damn gate.

I'm digging this idea.

Meanwhile, there's still the remnants of the Equalists and Earth Empire guys. Pretty sure those guys don't go quietly into the night (even planned for that one Earth Empire guy be like the Avatar equivalent of Big Boss). And of course..a new player, who's been running inhuman experiments.

Sounds like something that would destroy the balance, and something that earth avatar is investigating on. Ex. There are cases of normal folk and benders disappearing. Some came back wrong, some never saw the light of day.

could it be that one of those experiments is a super bender breeding project and earth avatar was one of the results from it?

Wow..your suggestions are better than my idea. My plan was the guy was making artificial benders…

That could mesh well into the earth bender's investigation case and can be something like the bodysnacthers movie, which could explain why some of the missing folk that came back act different.

Though your idea of a super bender does have an interesting ring to it. Like this group wanted to play both sides, so he made Super Benders to fight for the benders while the artificial ones to non-benders.

Sounds like they want keep the balance and the peace between all nations by making them all point super benders at each other.

Yup…balance through chaos that is.

And it's a good way to use two mirror villains at the Avatar. One Super Bender who can bend all 4 element and one Artificial one.

Final battle, Earth Avatar has to take down one super bender that has power of an atomic nuke.

Yeah…the guy who made the Super and Artificial Bender. Have them fight on this tower where he's going to use the spirit portal for some world buggering purposes.

The thing that bugs me is that even as a last minute asspull Korrasami is done poorly.

There is NO FUCKING REASON Varrick's wedding had to happen immediately after the fight with Kuvira. Everyone's busy with reconstructing Republic City, weddings take time to plan, Varrick would want to do something big/ridiculous/time consuming, there are plently of reasons to hold off on it.

Oh, but then we wouldn't have Mako's arm in a cast, whatever.

Go "Six months later…" and add an extra line of dialogue about them being really 'good friends' over that time.

At least then the excuse could be made that their relationship deepened off camera. It wouldn't be good, but it's better than basing the whole thing on SHE SENT LETTERS, THERE WAS THAT ONE COMPLIMENT!!!!

Yeah, one fucking compliment and suddenly they are into each other. Of course, if you point that out they call you a homophobe..even though I've seen better writing out of a Soviet era cartoon.

Pretty much this. I get giving subtle to blatantly obvious hints to the audience, but you need a shit load of evidence to make the relationship plausible, not just base it on one fucking thing that so-so did for the other.

Somewhat decent character, but fuck that final battle sucked.


Makes me wonder if Bryke knew what the fuck they were doing, and they just pulled out the 'she's bi now, and she totally likes tacos right now.' card just to protect themselves of getting their asses ripped.

Aaron Ehasz's stuff.

Is he a hack or some shit?

Nope. He's pretty much why Airbender is superior to it's sequel.

Skip to 18:00, and you'll get the gist of it.

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Does he tackle Korrasami per chance?

Not in the fullest detail, but he does dab on it on the final minutes of the vid posted earlier. However, in part 1 and 2 of E;R series, he does point out why the romance in LoK being shit in comparison to Aang and Katara's relationship.

I will never get people who complain about the Korrasami shit
I just thought they were pandering to the rule 34 creeps, not the Tumblir crowd

bryankonietzko.tumblr.com/post/105916338157/korrasami-is-canon-you-can-celebrate-it-embrace

You're joking right?

He definetly tackles Asami's problems and by proxy their relationship's throughout but especially in the last few min. of the last part. He said he has ideas to go on to Book two, but it wouldn't be as big as this series as it took a long time for him.

I'm still thinking of doing a Plinkett style review of Korra one day some day when I get the time.

Just don't do the voice. I'd like to like the reviews, but I can't stand the guy's voice.

I had no idea about this Ehasz dude, but if he worked on AtLA and not LoK, it'd explain a lot. Nigga knew what the hell he was doing.

Ah, I see, I take my words back. Did he have any involvement in Korra? If he didn't then that would explain a lot of things.

No involvement, at that time he was currently working on the new episodes for futurama.

What's he doing now?

He seems to be out of a job as of recent.

Maybe one day he'll come back and redeem Avatar of Korra.

Not soon though; no one would hire him because they think his style of writing is "too triggering" and "not progressive enough".

I rather see Korra as the avatar that screwed up, and her being a shitty guide/example for the next avatar.

Nah, Bryke have pretty much poisoned that well by becoming the faces of the series. Ehasz was the head writer for the show, though I do give them credit for initial development and ideas. But Ehasz was definetly needed to stop them from doing stupid shit original Toph. The first two books for LoK were Bryke alone, I think the third writer came on during three onwards. The jump in quality is entirely coincidental I'm sure.

Maybe we should find him and help him develop a new series for him that's Avatar without cancer?

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and btw can any anons try to prove if this is him?
twitter.com/aaronehasz

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"lesbians"

If they had to make Kuvira pull out a trump card then they could have just had her get something like Super Bender juice for her military.

It's really a shame how Kuvira turned out. She was the only LOK big foe who came off as a proper continuation of TLA's conflict and aftermath.

Even the point that the Earth King declared that the Earth Kingdom would be a republic has fodder for future battle. Looking at what happened to select lands colonized by the British and Ottomans suggests that this order won't turn too well.


Reminder that Varrick even hanging out with Korra and Co. like they're buddies is shoddy. The man was a war profiteer (if an entertaining one) and it's trash that later episodes ignored his antics to recast him as some goofy sidekick.

Kuvira suffered from a lack of screentime, which itself traces to how the show was a direction lacking mess. They tried to spin her as this "Dark Mirror" of Korra who doubles as Avatar's version of the national leaders who came to power post-WW1 (if not just Hitler). But they blew too much screentime on trash like the Beifong's family drama to the point that Kuvira ended up dumping her backstory to Korra in their little last minute therapy session.

Hence why I think if any smart person would want to make a followup series, the Earth Empire remnants would've been a good season 1 foe.

Just from reading your description, that sounds really bad on paper, and whoever pitched that idea for the show really needs their teeth kicked in.

That's another thing that was annoying in the show along with Pema screwing over Lin.

The whole 'Kuvira is a dark version of Korra' came out of nowhere, too, because they realized they dropped her actual storyline.
She did everything she did to prove to Su that she was capable. Su never treated her like her daughter, she treated her like someone that just works under her. She was never a true part of the family. She only wanted to prove herself and become accepted by Su.
Then out of nowhere she became crazy and tried to commit genocide. And they all forgot that she was with them since she was a child and no one in the Beifong family had a problem with turning on her and trying to kill her, and then sticking her in prison.
Su's last words to her particularly stung for me: 'don't you ever come near my family again.'

There was no resolution here. None at all. It's like they tried to roll Zuko, Azula, and Firelord Ozai into one person with her. It was fucking horrible.

She should have never been entirely evil. She should have just been going to extreme measures to prove herself and keep the Earth Kingdom people safe. There was no proof she actually cared about the Earth Kingdom people, which was one of the first mistakes. Give her scenes of her caring for peasants and making sure they're taken care of. Give scenes of the Earth Kingdom clearly becoming better under her rule. Alternatively, show that people in Su's city are not always better off; perhaps there's a ton of homelessness and extreme wealth inequality, just of a different kind than of the Earth Kingdom's.

Have Su still stand against her, and thus have her invade with the hopes of overthrowing Su and making the city a puppet state with her husband in charge. Part of the city welcomes it, and perhaps the Beifong family argues on whether or not it should be allowed. Make them conflicted.

She should not be killed or thrown in jail. She should be recognized as someone who had good intentions and belongs in the military. Give a resolution where she sees eye-to-eye with Su, and have the Earth Kingdom reunited. Su's city shares its technology with the rest of the Kingdom, and Kuvira steps down from ultimate dictator to the leader of the military.

Have an entire subplot of the Prince again, but rather than him just becoming humble and willingly giving up the throne, take more influence from Puyi, the last Emperor of China. He has a big fall from grace when he becomes basically a puppet for Republic City, but by the end, rather than still being goofy and running off to join the circus or whatever the hell he did, he straightens the fuck out and becomes an important part of the Kingdom's new political system, as a member of their Congress.

The more I think about this, the more I can't help but think that one of Korra's biggest problems is that it was through the eyes of a spoiled girl. She never wanted to help others, and was never aware of the issues going on around her.
We never truly saw the terrible things the non-benders dealt with. Instead, it was all about how offended Korra was at Amon shit-talking her.
We never got more light at the wealth inequality and the impoverished of the Earth Kingdom, either. Korra never paid attention to it because she didn't give a shit.

It's so sad, because Earth Kingdom has so much potential to mimic what happened with China. Why did we see peasant revolts? Why wasn't the plight of starving peasants focused on? This was how they could have brought out Kuvira's 'evil' side. She wants so hard to help the Earth Kingdom that she does terrible things Mao did. The people starve because they inflate the numbers of their harvests because she uses it to impress the rest of the world, and has unskilled peasants who can't metalbend try to make iron and other resources to help industrialize. She insists on leaving the old ways, and anyone not with her is publicly shamed.

No. Instead, they turn her into some mixture of Mussolini, Hitler, and Mao, but with a giant robot.

God, how I'd love to see art in the series of Kuvira propaganda, Communist China-style. Pics related.

Sorry, meant why didn't we see peasant revolts.
The furthest we ever saw were peasants taking all the expensive shit from that Forbidden City-esc building. And it was treated as a bad thing, like 'oh those asshole peasants, don't they know that these have SENTIMENTAL VALUE to this spoiled brat of a prince?!?!'

What makes the Beifong's family drama so trash is that you can sum it up as:

Lin is spot-on about Toph being a failure of a mother (slut, neglectful) and Suyin being a criminal who Toph covered for but we're apparently supposed to side with Suyin and so Lin does so after some bullying by Korra

They tried to spin Kuvira as being a Dark pre-Season 4 Korra (called brash, uniter of the Earth Kingdom, has a vagina). They didn't pull it off of course.

Kuvira being a Dark Korra was also held down by Show Don't Tell. We're told she's some brash hothead like Korra, but what we see of her shows her as cooler headed than Korra has been throughout the series and with more grounds to do what she's doing.

That would require more effort to make a nuanced conflict or at least round out the Earth Empire.

For how hard they tried to make Korra a socially relevant mature show for mature watchers, the actual conflicts were more lopsided than TLA's. Not only did TLA have villainous or shady characters of the lands invaded by the FN (Jet, Long Feng, Hama, that Earth Kingdom general who tried to exploit Aang), but it worked to round out the Fire Nation. You had Zuko and Azula's journeys which showed a face for the FN. You had the episodes in the FN which showed FN citizens watching propaganda. And you had Firelord Sozin saying he was out to share the Industrial Revolution with the rest of the world.

LOK on the other hand had a mob rallied by a supervillain trying to paint Republic City red with blood (Equalists), Korra's uncle who's an Ozai wannabe Southern Water Tribe supremacist who doubles as a luddite who's also a cultist trying to get darkness, some Airbender cosplayer who's ultimate plan is to kill Korra for muh chaos, and the Earth Empire who we are told are super naughty.

Hence why Lin is awesome…she's the few sane person in LoK.

God that's a huge mess, and Bryke really sullied Toph's character.


It's shame that she was in a shitty show/sequel. She's pretty much best character.

You know, I just realized that Toph's character development quite LITERALLY came full circle.

As a kid, she's brash, spits on rules, is rude, sarcastic and childish.

As a middle-aged police chief, she's more even-headed, calm, thoughtful and generally more mature, ignoring that part where she tried to cover up Suyin's criminal dealings, and the part where she had a child out of wedlock. You know, like people do when they become adults.

As an old hermit lady, she's back to being brash, rude, sarcastic, childish and not giving a crap about rules.

Seriously, this personality progression makes no sense. It's like they regressed her character to get nostalgia points. I was actually mystified the first time we saw her in Book 4, and thought it was gonna be revealed that she's putting on an act, or she got possessed or something (but then, I also thought that Book 4 was gonna have Vaatu again - considering he's basically the Devil of the Avatar Universe, they should have saved him for the finale, instead of blowing their "end of the world" load in Book 2). It would be one thing if she had some justification for it or some plot dump explaining it, but it basically came out of nowhere.

Seems like they didn't really have much of a plan for this whole deal. Or if they did, it sucked.

Nope..if I recall, they only plan up to season 1..which tells you how much effort they put into LoK…none.

I'm pretty sure Nick strung the studio along over the development of LoK, seeing as each season has nothing to do with the last. Even if they knew how much show they were going to be allowed to produce I doubt the writing would've been better, but they might have actually had arcs and threads that ran through all 4 seasons.

This is what they mean when they say kill your darlings, it's to stop shit like this.

If he really liked her she could have been a spy but let her win. Have her story arc for the four seasons be trying to cover up her past because she wants to get into Korras pants. Have us always get perilously close to her being found out but she gets away with it at the last minute. She could have been a bad guy that wins and it would have been awesome. But nope instead she just got shoved into the background.

I don't think that's quite true. Nickelodeon actually wasn't even that confident about the first two seasons of The Legend of Korra, which is why Bryke were only able to squeeze 12/13/14 episodes into each season of the show.

Plus, there's clearly elements of the show that suggest that some overall plan was in place (Book 1, Korra nearly loses her bending to Amon, Book 2, Korra nearly loses the Avatar Spirit to Unavaatu, Book 3, Korra nearly loses her life to Zaheer, and then Book 4, um, something, something, evil reflection and learning from your enemies), it just wasn't planned out or executed very well. Or was even that good of a set-up to begin with.


That's fucking retarded, user.

She starts out as a villain, then goes good and becomes a bit of a smartass snarker. That's enough. Maybe make her a Catwoman character towards Mako (and set him as a cop from the start) if you really wanted sex in the show. Keep the carpet munching out.

But each of those plots had no overarching link. To (inevitably) compare it to ATLA, there was always a single major arc that informed decisions and drove the plot forward. LoK had no such arc; each season was self-contained. Nick wasn't confident in the show–rightfully so, in retrospect–so they kept the studio on a tight leash. Again, I don't think the overall execution of the show would've been better, but if the studio had known they were getting 4 seasons from the start, they would have had plot threads that ran the length of the show.

They did, user. Did you miss the part where I pointed out that each of the four seasons tied into an overarching theme of Korra getting broken down and then fighting an evil reflection of herself (also, Amon, Unalaq and Zaheer, funnily enough, all represent aspects of Aang - energybending (sorta), Avatar State (evil version) and airbending)? It wasn't a Grand Quest, it was just a prolonged exploration of a theme.

I won't disagree that it was a retarded way to go about things, and they should have just had a Grand Quest to complete instead over the course of four seasons, but it wasn't completely unplanned. Plus, I'm pretty sure Bryke wouldn't be bothered about having only 2 seasons - they should know by now that studios have a "testing period" to see if a show is worth it. But they really should have pushed for 20 episodes per season, IMO.

They had to do the "Bad Parent" shtick again. In case you didn't notice, the only returning Gaang member who wasn't painted that way was Zuko. Aang neglected his non-Tenzin kids and Katara apparently allowed that.


Shouldn't have been there to begin with. There was no place for a Satanlike character in the Avatar's setting.

If that's so, then they failed since the big foes were ultimately too flat with lopsiding and ridiculous schemes for them to them to do the '"Is like Korra and so by beating them Korra learns from them" shtick (well that, and Korra's lack of actually getting character development). Unalaq in particular is an example of this, being an obviously dastardly man out to free a dark god who never really tries to present a case for opening the portals that seriously accounts for we see in First Avatar's flashback (where spirits at best could be counted on to see humans as ants) and other appearences of spirits.

But of course Korra keeps the portals open (without consulting all the higher ups of the other elemental nations or even President Raiko), gets indignant at getting called out for the antics of spirits, and gets told by Toph Unalaq would have dindu nuffin if he didn't go too far.

I'm pretty sure to recall that after the first season, which was supposed to be a one-off thing, Bryke were given three seasons by Nickelodeon. I don't have link, but that's what I remember.

Ghat surely doesn't make them look better. They had 3 seasons to find a conflict and stick with it.

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Which doesn't mean much considering that ATLA was initially 13 episodes before Nick decided to renew it and Bryke had a full game plan back then.

Even Bryke's game plan had some serious editing from at least Aaron Ehasz. He was apparently behind turning what was Toph into a girl and I'm assuming turning Zuko's younger brother into Azula.

Yeah. Toph was originally gonna be a nice guy to make a love triangle with Aang and Katara. Ehasz turned her into the little blind bitch with attitude we liked, and then Bryke grew her into an intolerable adult.

That reminds me. Remember how Bumi and Iroh were kicking ass well into old age? Why weren't Katara and Toph like that?

I suppose because Bryke is shit

They're old ladies. I know this sounds tumblrish, but the ladies who actually do important stuff in LOK have a habit of being cute/hot/beautiful while also being no older than middle-aged (see Lin).

As one RPG Codex poster put it Bryke modeled teenage to adult male characters on themselves, the child characters on their kids, and a significant amount of teenage to adult female characters on their masturbation fantasies.

Don't worry, user, he only has one asskisser left.

You know what I like about every LoK thread? A bunch of guys with no writing experience can come up with a better story. Take these guys for example and

Looking back, I'm figuring that Korra should made her goodbyes to the Republic City cast after Amon kicked the bucket and went the rest of the series with just Tenzin. The Mako/Bolin/Asami Trio were made for Book One's setting and overarching conflict. Among all issues, one of them was that there was never really a place for them in later seasons (to the point that Varrick served as a foe for them to fight while Korra was having her family drama)

and even then they were irrelevant to the plot. Especially Asami.

Now that you mention it, I guess they're are minor when you ignore Probending.

They're subplot characters that get forced into the main plot because of proximity to Korra and her bullheadedness.

This talk goes to show you Legend of Korra was slipping from the start. Even Amon and Equalists were shoddy in practice.

Wasn't Toph originally gonna be a huge, muscular dude? Hence the Ember Island Players joke.

The idea of Amon was ingenius. They should have made him be the Joker of Avatar. Just this symbol to represents an ideology and a movement.


Toph was going to be a muscular dude who would also be Aang's romantic rival as I've heard. It was going to be a love triangle until Aaron changed Toph into a girl and made her who we all know and love today. Though if that change happened nowadays, they'd probably would have kept the love triangle subplot and have Katara go with Toph.

What I hate most about this is that it ruins all those fun threads Holla Forums had about Korra and Asami going on a vespa tour through the fire nation to find Zuko for…reasons.

There was even OC…I didn't keep it.

Amon was too much of a comic book supervillain. From leading a movement out of X-Men to how his threat escalated way too far for how long Book One is.

He was a lot more menacing and mysterious than an X-Men style comic book villain. He really did seem like the natural evolution of the Avatar world.

Toph was kicking Korra's ass all over the place, and owning Earth Empire soldiers like it was nothing. She hardly got shafted in that department.

If anyone got shafted, it was Zuko. He shows up with a cool dragon, only to end up getting pwned by the same guy who later got stupidly owned by Mako and Bolin after being on-screen fighting for all of five seconds, and his dragon gets KO'd in one hit by Crazy Combustion Woman.

Granted, even in the original series Zuko was always kind of a shit bender, except for mastering lightning redirection (and Azula still owns him with it so Katara could save the day), but I was hoping they'd at least ditch that shit for older Zuko, especially now that he had a dragon.

I'm not seeing how "Let's paint the city ted with the blood of benders!" is what should follow from TLA. There wasn't significant signs of animosity between benders and non-benders that gets Equalists.

The world had just gone through a massive war that was entirely bender-fueled and we've seen benders on both sides terrorize people constantly, especially non-benders. So it's possible that the world's non-benders might be a little crusty to benders.

The FN had loads of non-bender forces. And even then, it was the only nation that had benders for its rulers.

Hell..I do recall the FN having an elite unit of non-benders.

Bending was used as a weapon in that war, but it wasn't the cause nor the end of it, necessarily. Might have been impactful that they used Sozin's Comet to begin basically nuking the Earth Kingdom, but that got nipped in the bud pretty quickly, relatively.

Given how much the nations defined themselves culturally around their benders, there being enough of a reversal of attitudes over 50 years or so might be something you'd want to explore. It might make sense in a city that's both separate from the nation's politics and culture, and thus doesn't have its identity caught up in bending, and where industrialisation has given benders unique niches and incorporated into society in a more obvious way.

But I think we're putting more thought into it than they did.

They were trying to be "socially relevant for mature viewers." They of course ended up with X-Men.

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Honestly, what was so bad about Korrasami?

It seemed like a pitiful cry for relevance

No but story wise, how is it bad and how is it bad for the characters?

Basically imagine if Katara and Suki hooked up in the final episode.

Yeah but there were hints in the story, there was proper set up and development throughout Books 3 and 4. It was actually well written and if not, prove me wrong.

ONE Letter does not a hint make, mate.

How about the car scene in Book 3 or Asami offering Korra comfort in her time of need, or the letter, or Korra's blushing when complimented, or Korra's over protectiveness, or that other scene where Asami talks to Korra during the Remembrance flash back episode, and finally, the end where Korra and Asami comfort each other and take a vacation while holding hands.
No hints right m8? Totally not developed right?

I mean jeez, Deus Ex HR had a deliberately muddled social theme that was more clear than Korra.

Kinda odd that it's a modernising setting that focuses on a divide between those with magic and those without. You'd think the themes might be more Benders finding themselves becoming obsolete in a world where their powers can be replicated and mass-produced, and/or reduced to basically living industrial machinery. Which might also lend itself to burn-the-witch scenarios and/or anti-Bender groups focusing on technology rather than mysticism.

In the original avatar romances were set up at the beginning and handled with all the subtlety of a 9 pound sledgehammer. This ending is tumblr tier trash as was the last half of the finale.

Defending it only enables sjw scum.

Thanks for the little explanation user. It puts a lot into perspective.

A couple half assed teasers at the beginning of a season=\= a competently developed romance.

That handful of words they exchanged were so few and far between at the start of season 3 that by the end it seemed irrelevant. Jesus it's like the type of dude who thinks he has a chance with a girl because she accidentally brushed up against him one time.

As said in the OP, Asami barely had any screentime in the last two books. The two characters just didn't have enough interactions together for it to be believable.

She's barely a character. She's just a plot device throughout most of the show. It always felt like the ending was just Bryke's "In case of emergency, press this" button they added at the last minute to divert attention from the fact that the finale and the rest of the Book was shit.

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And how is it bad writing then?.

Girls have always been coming out as bi, they do it for attention.

Yuri is trash

The biggest disappointment is that they didn't find a way to involve a large multigenerational fan club of the previous Avatar, known as the Woot Aang Clan.

Korra and Asami's first time actually having a friendly interaction in the entire show aside from that one episode in Book 1. Immediately ruined by trying to draw equivalence between Korra kissing Mako while he was with Asami and Asami kissing Mako after he had broken up with Korra.


You mean like Mako, Bolin, Tenzin, etc, have done a billion times before? Shit, I guess even Korra's airbending teacher secretly wants to pork her.


Which implied absolutely nothing of romantic nature, and in fact, made no freakin' sense considering that Korra was closer with Mako and Asami, unless we're supposed to believe that all the important developments in their relationship took place off-screen.


That's literally the only thing even remotely approaching a hint, and still falls flat when you realize that a) girls do that kind of shit to each other all the time, like complementing their friend's hair and shit and b) Korra reacted similarly with Bolin doing wacky shit to get her attention despite not being attracted to him.


What over-protectiveness? Are you sure you're not just pulling shit out of your ass now?


Saying absolutely nothing that Mako, Bolin and Tenzing haven't done. In fact, that episode did more to support Mako/Korra again than it did Korra/Asami.


Which was not set-up at all, and is in fact the exact thing that everyone is complaining about here.


Yes and yes. No set-up whatsoever.

Now get the fuck outta here with your defense of random faggotry.

Shit, I meant Mako and Bolin.

Something about her scoulding Asami for visiting her father and she was like "Asami, wtf? He was a terrorist and shit!"

That's not really Korra being overprotective, that's just her being a bitch to Asami for not ditching her dad for having the gall to be a freedumb fighter back in Book 1.

Which reminds me, Hiroshi really got screwed over in the show.

How so?

>No fucking love triangle, and keep the romance slow burning.
Too bad, since this is basically a requirement to get any show greenlighted

They should have made Korra a mostly lone wanderer.

Faggot didn't even answer

Maybe he's talking about how the show mentions Asami seeing her jailed father but it's not really looked into.

Is it even possible to have a decent thread about this franchise in this board without having to make the OP about shitting on Korra? I mean I detest the show, the MC and how it shat all over the legacy of TLAB but it's getting kinda tiring that the only thing we can talk about is how full of shit LOK is

I don't mind it, it's like therapy for rape victims

Sadly true.

Same reason every goddamn movie needs a romantic subplot even if it adds nothing. Execs apparently think women won't be interested without one. Or that audiences will assume everyone is gay if there aren't signs of heterosexuality every five minutes. (like that stops them)

Didn't Korra steal Asami boyfriend?
Why would they even be friends.

Pretty sure everything makes sense if you consider everyone wants to fuck Korra.

Why? Korra's a repulsive human being who only cares about herself. Even when the show tries to show her humanity she never actually changes as a person, just gets bitchier and self-loathing.

They are totally right, though.

None of the non-Korra members of the Krew really had much grounds to follow Korra around after Amon got blown up. Or even to be in the show anymore.

That was what Varrick in Book Two was for: Let the Republic City based characters have an enemy to fight while Korra was having her family drama with Unalaq. And Varrick actually wasn't too bad at that. Of course, he got ruined through getting overused way later on.

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None of that matters. She's hot. I've never even watched the cartoon and I want to fuck her.

Do yourself a favor and don't watch it and just keep fapping to the r34.

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The ending should have had Kuvira win or at least have Korra's work seriously rejected by the EK citizens.

How does that ruin it?

Woosh.

That's not an answer.

Well, I mean it REALLY isn't that hard to understand…

It is for me :/

Okay, okay, look up track 15 from the official soundtrack on YouTube

youtube.com/watch?v=M2DbjbZz_dM&index=15&list=PL0iXhioc2kJrELmG5b6GOYwOPZRHAsZTk
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Sorry I ripped it from the library, it's probably track 14

Do you remember the title of the track? Because track 14 is titled "Amon"

Yes it's Amon

Aaand I still don't get it, can you just tell me?

Once again Korrasami haters BTFO

Now I get it.

See?

Honestly, how can anyone really defend Korrasami?
It seems like the entire romance was always tacked on and forced.

Simple…they are either a) Shippers (which would usually defend their ships no matter how stupid, unlikely or just plain wrong they are) or b) Tumblrites (Do I even have to explain why?)

Yeah but so fucking many of them are in this fanbase, how? I mean, it's always been like this but ever since Korra's its been literal cancer.

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I'm not done reading all this rage

OP here. I've been liking where this thread has been going. Anyway, to answer your question, I guess a big part of it is that instead of Bryke just ignoring all this shipping crap and letting it slowly die off, they acknowledged it, appeased it and even pandered to them, such as with Book 1 of Korra. Vid related.

The tumblrites bit is a bit more complicated, and even I don't fully know. I guess its because Bryke, and I mean both of them, are on Tumblr and interact with their fanbase and talk more about the show there mostly. I guess its also because even as far back as ATLA, the show has been touted as progressive. None of the characters are white and the very fourth episode was basically "womyn can be stronk and independent too!". Combine that with the whole whitewashing controversy of M. Night's movie as well as some other minor controversy where apparently neither Katara, Suki, Azula or any female characters got toys, as well as the fact that Korra had a female lead and naturally there were SJWs who latched onto the show simply because "Wow, such female characters. So progressive." And like with the shippers, Bryke appeased them instead of pretending they didn't exist.

And this all brings up back to Korrasami. Korra and Asami are now in lesbos with each other, which means shippers are content, and Bryke just scored more progressive points in the progressive media causing the show to be remembered only for that ending. And of course it wouldn't be complete without Bryke virtue signalling hard, what with Konietzo's "hetero lens" comment and brushing aside all the genuine critics of this ending as homophobes.

At least there's a lot of Korrasami Rule 34 now, so it isn't all bad.

For you, yes. No penetration, no potency, no sale.

smh tbh fam

No user, don't do that.

Somewhere in the middle of every book it seems like it was going to fix itself but always manages to fall lower than last time by the end of the book.

Does that apply to airbender as well? Granted airbender is always superior to LoK, but admittedly there are some flaws. Ex. That asspull in the final battle between aang and ozai.

I think the battle between Aang and Ozai works well thematically. The whole theme of Zuko's side of the story was accepting personal change, so with Aang defeating Ozai in a nonlethal manner, the theme explored there is to stay true to your personal values and never compromise them.

The problem I have with this ending is that A) The energybending thing comes is a Deus Ex Machina and B) It never addresses one of Aang's key character flaws, which is how he constantly runs away, or tries to avoid hard decisions. After all, consider how an answer to his dilemma just comes to him the moment he's ready to give up. I think the best way to fix the ending would be to rewrite Sozin's Comet Part 1 and 2 in a way along the lines of so:

Nah, it's more of the opposite honestly. Where as Korra felt like watching a really brutal rape that everyone else enjoyed, Airbender felt like it'd improved itself with which book. There was a clear goal in Avatar and great fucking writing at that, which lead to some pretty good and clever moments in the show. Despite some cop outs, it was a damn good show.

I stopped giving a shit long before it happened . I think around the beginning of season 4 is when I decided it was irredeemably shit as opposed to just mediocre.

Show's only good for the porn. TLA has both porn and good writing, though, so it wins either way.

Reminder that Kuvira's "defeat" was just as low as Ozai's, if not lower. She had the enemy on the ropes, but she gives up after some amateur therapy with Korra.

Korra's conflict with Kuvira ran into the issue that Aang VS Ozai had in that we have a big foe who's not just a killer, but is a follower of an ideology that doesn't encourage backing down if asked by the Avatar which also casts doubt on stopping the big foe withing killing off the big foe. TLA pulled out the Lion Thrtles with their Spirit Bending so that Aang could stop Ozai from his dastardly plan without ending him. LOK had tried to have this now awakened Korra talk Kuvira out of what she was doing, but it flopped since Korra didn't actually make much of a case to do so.

Bryke says that we're getting a comic which will explain the relationship. But me, I'm having a bit of trouble getting my hands on comics in general. So I'm a bit panicking, my range of thought is "How do I ship a canon ship [Korrasami] with barely a thing to their relationship and interaction?" Unlike Ymir/Krista (SNK), which I can get behind without a fuss from me, since I can see evidence and interactions.

You're from tumblr aren't you?

Seeing the shit quality of the airbender comics, it's best to stay the fuck away from it or someone does a comic dump on it.

Yep, I'm from Tumblr (But this is my reddit name, my Tumblr name is AtLA/Kingdom Hearts name).

The comics sound really bad, at least I found out what happen to Princess Ursa, Ty Lee, and the Kyoshi Warriors.

GET OUT OF THIS BOARD NIGGER

eyyy bud check em

There's nothing arousing about watching homosexuals fuck.

Different strokes for different blokes: for me, I find the male figure to be immensely unappealing, and when viewing smut I find it distracting, disgusting, and unnecessary when the screen or page gets taken up by a close up of a penis or a man's hairy, unwiped ass obstructs the view of the girl I'm actually trying to focus on.

Lesbian porn is good because if the tits and cunt of the girl get covered, it's only by the tits and cunt of another girl.

If I want to see Penis-in-Vagina action, I can pull up Futanari Doujins, so I don't have to put up with male figures and faces getting the way of my view of the girls I actually want to see.

Explain to me how the sentiment "I only approve of porn that features a man in it to some capacity" isn't the real faggotry here. Unless maybe if you self-insert into porn, in which cause you go from being faggy to just plain autistic (and still a little faggy).

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Korrsami was only made to get Social Justice Brownie Points and Internet Fame/Infamy

And to get some last minute attention for the show after its sunk ratings and smacking by critics

Probably has something to do with airing the episodes only on the internet first, before they put it on tv (Besides attempting to gain SJ Brownie Points from Tumblr).

Problem with Korra is EVERYTHING comes out of nowhere. Energybending managed to be a Deus Ex Machina again despite it already being an established thing now.

Bumpu

Now, they pretty much directly admitted that they did it for attention because they knew they were fucked out any future work with Nick, as far as cartoons go.

They mishandled Korra so badly that Nick was never going to give them another chance, so they decided to just pander instead, because they were desperate to be remembered for something.

Most of the staff, storyboard artists, and writers had no idea they intended for it to be implied lesbianism

fap time?

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Fuck off

I haven't got to read the thread yet.

This is a slow board. Just because something falls off the first page doesn't mean it's about to disappear. And we've had this thread a million times. There's nothing new in it.

It was on Page 9.