Does porn objectify women?

Make sure the people are using it for the right purpose

I sure hope you aren't trying to say

let answer with a counter question: what would you change?

in my opinion if you don't like porn then don't watch it.

the whole discussion was invented by people who had pseudo intellectual diarrhea.

I like to make porn with little nigger boys

dubs confirm!

b-but other people might still watch it!

all people are objects. people are things, in a porno or a supermarket. in fact women are treated fairly well in mainstream porn, as human objects of desire. even if they fake it, wanting cock and getting plenty of it are fundamental to the female role in porn. men get off on giving grills what they want.
so no. it's a load of balls.

logorrhea?

Should we just not care about other people?

of course, but try telling that to the slave mentality statists that make up the vast majority of people

The problem is exactly that women are depicted as objects of carnal lust etc who only want to serve men and penises

This is not the first rusty vehicle I have seen posted here today, what is the meaning of this pattern?

I think you misunderstood me let me explain myself:
Just now there are rules in place that make certain kinds of porn (i.e. real life guro, giving out candyphilia, etc.) illegal. This is necessary because it hurts persons irl.

but the question is "should we ban porn because it objectifies woman." which i gave counter-arguments for. In my experience anti-porn activists are usually one of the following: fat, low self-esteem, woman in ther 30s to 40s and gender rethorics. Do we really want to cater to these people just because porn hurts their fee-fees?

It's not just about fat feminists' feelings, user, it's about about health, well being, public decency, life the universe and everything

Well why is that a bad thing?
Women like sex, men like sex. That's how it should be and we should be open about it. "Objectification" seems to just mean sexual submission which is what women are designed for. There's nothing degrading about it, that's just how it is. If you want to be a femdom then power to you but do not get mad at porn for showing submissive women, it's to be expected.

is this porn?

You're saying women are designed to be subservient to men?

Because feminists would say they aren't and porn that shows that is both a symptom of and a way of reinforcing a socially constructed patriarchy

2 sides of the same coins but why is it only important when we see the head?

2 sides of the same coins but why is it only important when we see the head?

What's the fucking definition of objectified, tell me? Probably not what's happening in most of the cases when this word is used. Porn is porn, not objectification.

i work for racequeen autos, inc of quezon city in the phillipines. my capslock is broken but we have an great range of fine used cars and …well,
welcome. what brought you here today? a top of the range cockpump with the Trump logo, perhaps?

Objectification: to treat (someone) as an object rather than as a person

- doesn't really exist unless you're basically enslaving someone, so no, porn does not. Sure there are probably some porns out there - certainly the whole "public toilet" concept, but it's fucking make believe. If an actual scientist could demonstrate a link we'd have something, but the opinions of navel gazing idiot feminists counts as much as a bag of shit.

Women are definitely sexualized, but they do that themselves as well. Men are also sexualized, and do that themselves as wekk. Being sexualized, as in, thought of in a sexual manner, is a natural result of us being sexual creatures.

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Doesn't look like porn to me

it should be banned because it promotes men fapping instead of going out to fuck real women

we need those children, to be soldiers and mothers

otherwise we get replaced by third world garbage

masturbation is known to corolate with a low number of prostate cancer

as for mental health idk

is very regional i.e. indians shitting in streets, gardens etc.

I like your sarcasm

Sir, society (as you define it) is already long gone.
and dont worry we will have drones, single mothers, etc.
And lets be honest please we dont even know how they make the ammo for the guns "we" gave them. They will run out eventually

I think porn supports quite unhealthy lifestyles which would be less likely to exist without it

Public decency is regional but should be universal

no, no, and no

I support your statement but should we really ban the hammer because a few idiots hit their thumbs (or in some cases dicks) with it?

b.-but its about muh cultural diversetay

Don't you think sexualising people, especially when men do it, has a habit of treating the sexualised women like objects?

Women are looked upon a lot like fleshlights, basically; 'holes' or whatever. It's bad for women and unhealthy

Hammers are good things most of the time; the question is whether porn is usually a good thing or whether it usually is a net bad for society when it is used

what's so bad about porn?

we may be living in its decaying corpse but the society that replaces it will be more similar to the old one, rather than any post-singularity techno utopia.

hedonism kills. the population will shrink and degenerate to the point where it completely breaks down and is replaced

most likely by fucking mohammeds. what a sorry fate

Mostly the way it affects men's health and perceptions of women

how does it affect my health and my perception of women?

I think he means our typical "fat, fapping basement dweller" strawmen.

the rise, hight and fall of society and the men dicussing the fall of theirs…. its almost poetic

[Citation needed], otherwise projection.

I doubt any sodomite here has the balls to even walk up to a porn star and hover hand her.

Oke i am going to give it too you straight.
You are masturbating way to much, /b is flooded with porn.
Nothing but lonely losers ejaculating excessively, destroying there testosterone levels.
Our only weakness , porn.
After ejaculation you are calmed you are made docile and lose all motivation.
This needs to stop, this is the reason our birth rates dwindles.
This is the reason why /b turned weak , we are all contempt wankers, drained of our manly juices that makes us /b.
We let our guard down now tumbler and reddit have grown in numbers ,they made us weak with this infection of porn.
It is time we put our sperm in nothing but jars or women, no more little swimmers waisted on webm`s.
No more ejaculation unless it is for the cause of /b.
It is time for discipline, It is time we make /b great again, It its time we stop masturbating with out a cause.
/b unite ,Abstain , Return to your natural form of frustration, hate, contempt and anger.

Your mission , no masturbation for 7 days too reach the maximum amount of testosterone in your system.
This will also flush the build up oestrogen out of your system and reduce your bitch tits.

so? why shouldn't a basement dweller watch porn?

mens health:
masturbation correlates wih a significant with low numbers of prostate cancer

again same coin but we only discuss the head….

How do you blow up shitskins with drones when those shit skins are living next to you?

this would mean locking you into a cage with two universally decent lesbian gorillas for a couple of days, to give wider society the time to catch its breath. wew.

i estemated what he probably thinks
i really coundlt care less about a man in his basement beating his meat.

Sexual stimulation causes you to have sexual organs that are active constantly.
Porn literately causes prostate cancer. youtu.be/M9xqIIWkP8M

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Potentially supports unhealthy basement dwelling lifestyles.
Make you see women as existing for sexual gratification, wanting to serve the male sex drive all the time

For a variety of reasons porn hasn't really affected or damaged anyone's perceptions of men
It's not even worth talking about, kid

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They're sexually submissive.
Being sexually submissive does not make you submissive in general though. You can be strong and independent and still enjoy getting fucked.

oh great, another thread ruined by the NoFap cult

only if you self succ

But why are they sexually submissive?

That is a straw men.
Sexual arousal is up and the west has the highest ratio of prostate cancers and erectile dysfunction.

Realing the build up prostate fluid is a good thing and long term retainment of lots of prostate fluid can cause cancer.

How ever by avoiding the sexual stimulus you dont get the enlarged prostate in the first place.

Not the same user as you were arguing at first btw.

You want to watch pov only, as you get a the beta observance complex otherwise.
this means you irl think it is your job to observe others having sex instead of having it yourself..

Because if both men and women were sexually dominant shit would get fucked up. It only makes sense that when you should have light you should have darkness. There must be an opposite to maintain the balance.

Because when the conquered invaded the ones that were submissive bitches survived to breed kids and pass their submissive genetics on.

and before you reply with "but femdom" or "but gays" yes there are anomalies and yes it's fine for you to be one but the natural order should stay for the most part balanced.

so do basement apartments

says who? i say it makes you see that woman also want sexual gratification. its absurd to conclude that woman want to serve the male sex drive all the time in porn, BECAUSE if they wouldn't fuck it wouldn't be porn.

well there are a few sacrifices to be made….
no but lol siriously we are probably doomed

you only think about sex
you only wanted to get in my pants etc.
you dont want to have sex with me now, you must be gay etc.

user I am in fact aware of that "a glass of wine a day" but should we ban it because a few idiots had too much?

also the methods to diagnose those (please prove otherwise if I am wrong)

also corrolation doesnt equal causation

we came in contact with many different chemicals in our daily lives that would probably cause some of the symptoms and diseases you named

Most women don't want to do any of that stuff, at least anywhere near as much as they do in porn. A lot of it is dangerous, unhealthy, and bad for women's emotions

There are plenty of stories in the media about teenagers who watched porn trying to get their teenage girlfriends to do this stuff, and sometimes succeeding

It's worse than just realising women also enjoy sex

teenagers shouldn't watch porn

Yes and that has to be respected
If two life partner dont get clear with various prefernces and fetishes of the other they could break up.

and user you conclude that woman cant say no or dont have the agency to say no on their own.

good then, that they have mouth state their opinions.
elaborate

Is actually bad for you.

Like autopsy, something they do in pretty much all cancers.
The numbers are correct dear sir.

The west has higher ratios of ED higher ratios of prostate cancer then more conservative cultures who still have 1e world medical standards.

*in all cancers = in all countries

it's true though. countries are cancer

sry user i used that "glass of wine a day" as a figure of speech.
As for myself I am analcoholic for good two decades

have you taken my second reply (>>6361534) into consideration (sry last thought of my brain right before i hit the reply button)

wut?

not him but has probably something to do with these precious fee-fees that everybody is talkin about…

Women are sex objects. Good for porn for treating them correctly.

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Women are stupid, this is why we must control them.

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sage

Why do you hate the truth? Are you a white knight, homo?

well i must admit i disagree sligthly but my reaction was dedicated to his pathetic attempt to derail the thread….
which he apperently has…

since when is fighting for maidens who can't help themselves no longer a noble thing?

this is why you will die a virgin

Stop lying. I directly answered OP's question.

Since forever. So called "chivalry" was never real in the first place. It only existed in English fictional literature, like the tales of Camelot. What was real was feudalism. Women were treated as property.

maybe someone should inform king arthur then

no

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Yes. As much as your boss objectifies you as a machine you gotta pump money into in order to make more money come out.
As much as the state objectifies you as a tax paying machine/money leech if you're a neet.
As much as your customers at your job objectify you as a provider
As much as your little brother objectifies you as a gift giving machine if you happen to buy him stuff sometimes
Objectifying happens all the fucking time. It isn't wrong.
Womyn act shocked when they're "objectified" yet they objectify people all the fucking time. "Objectifying" doesn't mean dick. When you hear "he's objectifying someone", you might as well hear "he's breathing".
Fuck that. I'm SICK OF THIS NIGGERSHIT

Yes. As much as your boss objectifies you as a machine you gotta pump money into in order to make more money come out.
As much as the state objectifies you as a tax paying machine/money leech if you're a neet.
As much as your customers at your job objectify you as a provider
As much as your little brother objectifies you as a gift giving machine if you happen to buy him stuff sometimes
Objectifying happens all the fucking time. It isn't wrong.
Womyn act shocked when they're "objectified" yet they objectify people all the fucking time. "Objectifying" doesn't mean dick. When you hear "he's objectifying someone", you might as well hear "he's breathing".
Fuck that. I'm SICK OF THIS NIGGERSHIT

please elaborate your standpoint (if it goes beyond bait)

It makes men think about women as sex objects but it's okay because that's what they are

(my guess)

Ask my ex wife…

I am now curious what op thinks in regards to this. ƪ(˘⌣˘)┐~*…*

I think banning porn is a topic that we should have dropped last century in favor of not banning the recording or documenting of sexual intercourse, regardless of individual motivation.
(●´~｀●)~*I don't understand the opposing view*

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chivalry

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