Transhumanism Would Be Better for Pol Than Nazism

This is a repost from a post I made on the BMW board because it's equally relevant here:

Nazism is the inferior ideology when held up against Transhumanism. I get the gist of why a meme-related board would like the nazi belief system since nazism was pretty much one of the pinnacles of propaganda (until they got destroyed since they ambitiously wanted to take over the world and destroy all other races deemed inferior). However, after pondering the fact they are best known for gassing a specific race (among other kinds of people) and desiring to destroy/conquer everyone else (and probably down the road would've just gotten more picky with the races that deserve to live but hey that's just speculation) maybe we shouldn't promote them. I am not saying abandon the desire for a master race. I am saying nazism promotes an improper means of obtaining it transhumanism does much better.

Benefits and reasons to switch /bmw/ from nazism to transhumanism:

1. When all races eventually disappear with the advent of virtual realities where there are no races, we won't fade into obscurity since the superior race card will become utterly meaningless. Racism is going to some day be impossible to have when people are abandoning their races altogether. Even aryans are going to be 2nd-gen wannabes of a digital semi-immortal body without race. Transhumanism promotes the application of technologies to create immortal digital selves.

2. In the mean time for people not wishing to transcend reality into the digital world, even in the biosphere there will still eventually be a widely-available means of achieving a universal master race without murder. When we start accessing technologies capable of putting all races on equal footing in any aspect, we won't fade into obscurity. Now this in itself would actually promote developing a superior race, but that race would be universally accessible and there would be no point in killing races to access it since they can choose to evolve into it through the use of biotechnology. It might seem fictional now but the decades are going to continue passing and it is only a matter of time till we break down the walls of limitation put up by our current bodily forms. Transhumanism promotes the application of biotechnology/neurotechnology to enhance the human condition.

3. Transhumanism focuses centrally on the evolution of technology which is a step up from Nazism which does not keep that advancement at its core which it should have done. Though Germany was known for their technological advances, such advances were not essential to their ideology and simply treated as a means of carrying out their short-sighted ideals of wiping out the inferior and obtaining power over all other nations. If you want to focus on destroying inferior races, why take the underhanded route Nazism offers that has a probability of causing unnecessary suffering and being shunned by all opposing nations? Transhumanism removes all races because the fact is humanity as a whole IS ONE BIG INFERIOR RACE. Transhumanism seeks to trascend the boundaries humanity has put up AND does not require murder to do so like nazism grimly does. Animals are inferior to humans but nobody enjoys killing them save for the sick of mind. Humans are but animals desiring to evolve themselves beyond their boundaries which is a universal feeling shared by everyone. Why take the destructive route that far fewer people subscribe to when transhumanism is seeking to do things realistically and peacefully in a manner all countries can get behind?

4. Beyond mandating a focus on removing human suffering and transcending the human condition by means of technological advancement, you can politically believe whatever in transhumanism. If you want to be a totalitarian you can be a totalitarian transhumanist. The two stances are perfectly compatible.

5. In a way, one can successfully argue transhumanism does retain the core part of nazism desiring a superior race since transhumanism literally does away with all races as being one big inferior race -but does so in a manner NOT killing and torturing people of other races. Everyone can become part of the master race without needlessly causing or receiving death and suffering. This also gives the opportunity to make a transhumanist black sun symbol. It'd be fucking weird but I think it'd be cool. I can see it now: a black, white and blue new symbol with a big transhumanist h+ icon at the center.

For these reasons I believe this board should switch from the nazi belief system to the transhumanist belief system as it goes far beyond the scope of the nazis in their desire for a master race and does so in a manner we are already naturally progressing towards without requiring the death and suffering nazism has in the past required.

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(((elites))) already have transhumanism on lock down.

You won't be participating

no.

Not really, the basis of transhumanism is that one day science will make magic real.

It won't.

So, the only people who will be left behind are the transhumanists who have placed their faith in an impossible utopian dream.

>>>/gaschamber/

There are two more historic events in our human history which demonstrate why transhumanism will be catastrophic and a generic observations about different lifeforms.

When a technologically advanced civilization meets a less advanced civilization, the less advanced civilization will get destroyed or enslaved. Let's look down the list of history proving this point
- when Roman marched northward into Europe, they've killed, captured and incorporated any barbarian tribe in their way
- when China was unified, it steam-rolled through its jungle barbarians called the Vietnamese
- when the Middle East was in its Islamic Golden Age, they ran slave runs on Europeans and even attacked and conquered Spain (lookup "Moors"). Massive sex-slave market of Euorpean women ran
- when the French / English / Spanish / etc landed in North America, I can't say it ended too well for the warring Native Americans
- when the Spanish landed in Central/South America, can't say it ended will for the Incans and other Native peoples
- when Japan attacked USA, can't say it ended well for them
Having seen what happens in history, what do you think will happen when the superior technologically advanced transhumanists decide their fellow humans are obsolete?

Now, the most important historical event is where and when have seen in human history the peaceful co-existence of two similar humanoid species? There is none because it ends in genocidal warfare and forced interbreeding. This story is the story of our human ancestor and his/her conflict with the Neanderthals. Our ancestors where aggressive, war-like, dumb and waged a genocidal war against the peaceful and intelligent Neanderthals. Historical records show our ancestors ganged up and made the first move: They killed them on mass and forced interbreeding with the Neanderthal women which is why we now have some of their DNA (see: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaic_human_admixture_with_modern_humans#Neanderthals). In my personal opinion, transhumanists will consider themselves (if not already) a new homo superior to us homo sapiens and history, like our ancestors, will repeat itself.

Finally, I'd like to ask what do we see when two non-similar lifeforms compete for resources in an environment? Either sharing, mutual benefits cooperation or dominance. How have humans interacted with other life-forms in general: dominance. I can go down the list of domestication of crops and animals, the extinction of food prey (Dodo birds, etc) or killing for fun/sport. Question now is, if transhumans start modifying themselves so radically as to warrant them classification as non-human lifeforms then how will they co-exist with current existing human lifeforms when resource consumption threatens the existence of the other.

Transhumanist generally make me worried because they talk more of utopia & "what ifs" rather then honestly talk about the dangers. Look this video, it's unrelated but look at how all theories trying to prove Utopias work end up crumbling / turn into nightmares when attempted empirically: youtu.be/0Z760XNy4VM . Is it too crazy to believe that maybe, just maybe, transhumanism might not be a good idea?

Reported for not even trying.

this tbh

HEY

It'll never happen.

These are excellent posts. Only magic will make magic real. Don't be a slave. We need awareness more than anything.

materialism is cancer, and transhumanism is an extension of materialist dogma

You're not just drinking the cool-aid, someone's given you a cool-aid enema.

I'm gonna have some fun and actually address all people who have currently posted in the thread with some retorts. This is part 1.

Aside from outlandish conspiracy theory, there are no elites whom have transcended reality to the digital realm or created advanced cybernetic bodies for their selves. Elites do not have transhumanism on lockdown and most likely transhumanism would innately promote the removal of suffering to the point of overthrowing people who became elites so that the people being ruled are not suffering beneath the feet of elites. I know I said transhumanism and totalitarianism are compatible, but that does not mean I believe said compatibility would realistically last in the long-term without in the process contradicting the philosophy of transcending the human condition and removing the suffering of others.

Well you got me. I'm actually a praying mantis lizard man sent to confuse all of you. Praise Jewish God, Bernie Sanders is the 2nd coming, and Reddit is actually a legitimate source of unbiased thoughtfulness.

1000 years ago our modern technology which so rapidly evolved would be considered magic. 1000 years from now it would not be far-fetched to guess the same will apply. Just remember just because it may seem like magic doesn't mean it is magic. It's simply over your head in terms of complexity. Here's a transhumanist timeline for a concept of just how far things could potentially evolve as envisioned by a PhD futurist and their associates:

www.futuretimeline.net

Without 'trans' you cannot transform the world into your desired nazi paradise, you cannot translate the German language to understand nazi beliefs, and you cannot transport anyone to gas-chambers. Trans anything is essential to the nazi ideology of pol.

This is part 2 of my retorts, devoted solely to 6360019 because of its labrynthian level of obscure argumentation.

*sighs* It will take a fair bit of thought to break down this post so I may properly analyze and retort to it, but I will attempt to as carefully as possible explain the issues.


You say this as if it's a 100% absolute fact without exception. If you wish to cherrypick evidence I will proceed to point out if this were the case, how come less advanced civilizations still exist to this day? That may have been the case at one point to a degree I will not deny that, but in the modern day it seems the current precedent is to allow the weaker nations to at least exist so long as they don't try attacking the big dog countries. I won't name specific countries but if you want to press me for names I promise it will not be hard to form an extensive list. Besides Ukraine and Egypt the examples are not nearly as common as they used to be for your argument and things lay generally in favor of letting the weaklings be.


If they're transhumanists they seek to transcend the human condition and remove human suffering. Death is considered a propagator of suffering in the form of fear and depression caused by the loss of life. By the philosophy's own nature the transhumanists would seek to empower their fellow humans to be as transcendent as they are.


Black people and white people do not with 100% consistency hate each other and instances of this are commonly observable to anyone who socializes in real life in the United States. Racism is still an issue in the United States but blacks and whites both can and commonly do live together in harmony. Have you never heard of a black guy being friends with a white guy? Geez this point in your argument is a rather flagrant display of the ignorance of how races can potentially interact and I seriously hope you have misworded this point of yours. As for interbreeding I assure you not all blacks and whites rape each other or kill each other in the United States. Again, this is commonly available knowledge you should be aware of in common society.


Through transhumanism we will with time be more efficient with our resources, require less consumption of animals, and be able to transcend the necessity of dominating the environment in pursuit of dominating who we are as people. You speak in general because you know there are countless people who are not dominant and actively try to act with sharing and mutual benefit in mind. Although even arguing with generalizations, in general we DO act with mutual benefit in mind because if we didn't government could not exist through the use of social contract -the basis of any genuine democratic government. This is fairly common sense though and I feel as if pointing this out is an exercise in stating the obvious I feel silly in having to do.


Your video backs my argument. It says at the end careful planning is necessary to maintain the current human population. Transhumanism promotes the effective use of ecofriendly resources (which would eliminate to lack of resources available). It also promotes the creation of a world wide web of interconnected people able to transcend our bodily limitations and explore as much as we want, eliminating the issue of lacking freedom to explore. The conditions of that video are utterly eliminated if transhumanism can be successfully applied. If not applied and we instead pursued nazism then beings as a whole will survive but in the process require repeated sacrifice of weaker races and the suffering which comes with such sacrifice. The real danger is ignoring what we can do with transhumanism in pursuit of the sacrificial insufferable system nazism provides as its own course of action to achieve a master race. Our master race would be achieved more ethically and be met more receptively by people than nazism could ever hope to be.

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Reported your thread

reported your posts

this site has gotten really shitty

summer is truly a great time

Salaam and a happy Ramadan to you goy.

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Transhumanism is nothing more than religion for fedoras. The singularity has no better basis in reality than the rapture.

This.

ITT: fat nerds thinking they will become the elite just because they know how to use computers

Transcendence is through the body user, not away from it. If you lose your body you lose your soul. You are not your mind.

0/10, go back to shilling 101 Goldbergstien.

Its not possible to remove suffering 100%.

We live in a world off opposites, you can't eliminate suffering anymore than you can eliminate left and only have right. Or eliminate dark and only have light.

To do so is to destroy reality itself.

T-Trust me goy

National Socialism was not a materialist ideology

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Is that guys name really Shlomo? I thought that was just a meme.

Transhumanism = Secular Gnosticism

Kikery. You need only look to who is pushing transhumanism: kikes.


Genesis 3:4-5
And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.


==John 3:16-21, 36
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.


1 Corinthians 15:45-58
And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven. As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly. nd as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly. Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.

b-but goy god isn't real so you ARE god

Yes jews are just a meme they don't really exist goy. Terrorist attacks are also a meme, happy Ramadan and salaam.

/thread

>Instead of some jewish sky zombie preserving our souls for eternity in Heaven via salvation, what's really going to happen is technology will preserve our minds for eternity in quantum supercomputers via mind uploading

Part 3 of arguing for transhumanism in a pol board dominated my nazism. Keyboard feels like spaghetti, fingers feel like spaghetti, arms feel like spaghetti, beliefs feel like spaghetti, transhumanism feels like spaghetti. … Is transhumanism, spaghetti?

Your argument I am not trying is rooted in the assumption you know whether or not I am trying which you yourself unless omnipotent cannot know for certain. I assure you I am trying as pitiful as that might sound to someone such as yourself. As for your image, you have merely cherrypicked some people who happen to be jewish while failing to include some of the arguably most important people to the movement such as Friedrich Nichi, Julian Huxley, and Jason Silva. Granted, you got me on Isaac Asimov who I believe was very important with his Foundation series to the movement but you're bound to get some hits and misses if you're going for a specific race that's a given. So yeah in the future don't cherry-pick your evidence; it's not convincing and just makes you look biased and foolish.

Your agreement with an argument against the prefix trans is the reason you will not ever be able to translate your beliefs into proper action.

I do not claim overnight a utopia will spring forth from my ass. I believe with gradual technological progress and a devotion to transcending the human condition and removing our suffering carefully step by step, we can slowly crawl towards something close to what one might call a utopia. That is not unrealistic that is an obvious guess of probability for what the future will hold if we stay the course with technological progression. I can also assure you walls are not a particularly grand technological progression and are but a repeat of an archaic obsession the Chinese first started, the Russians made look bad, and Trump has absolutely ruined.

I've already addressed the posts you agree with so I will focus on your original content. Saying don't be a slave is some advice you should deeply consider as should you consider embracing awareness, as both of these thoughts may one day lead to your freedom from pol's hivemind. Join me and become brothers in true individual freedom. As for your images, the one on the right is simply an insult on religion, a mild acceptance of science, and a warm embrace of ignorant conspiracy without proper rooting in reality. The one on the left is simply a rehashing of already existing political spectrums based on the order-chaos spectrum and simply uses different philosophys/political systems in place of more commonly known ones; meaning it's simply the political spectrum for people who need to feel special.

Your bashing of materialism is understandable due to that belief system's lack of meaning and greedy self-absorbed nature (from my perspective anyway). Transhumanism does not take a definitive stance on religion and you can be an atheist or animist and anything between while also believing transhumanism. Transhumanism might make the most of reality, but that does not mean it is thus materialism. This simply means we make the best of things no matter if we believe in nazi heaven or the spirit realm. You can have whatever belief in beyond-reality concepts you wish to and still be a transhumanist. I understand your initial misunderstanding since transhumanism focuses on science a lot, but there are rather esoteric sects of transhumanism that believe in things beyond the material (Eight-Circuit Model of Consciousness is a chief esoteric transhumanist belief). You should not be so quick to throw away transhumanism it has more to offer than the mundane reality an absolutely atheist science may convey.

The part human part machines will be dangerous.

The machine only will be dangerous, but an EMP would take care of them all in case of attempted robot coup.

trust us goy since there's no such thing as a soul everything is relative and your goybrain can be goyloaded into the goymatrix

sign up now

All memes have an origin.

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TOP WEW

truly summer is a great time

salaam and happy ramadan

And into the trash it goes. Very elaborate bait, but be more subtle next time

This. If there's a movement denying nature and natural order, and calling for trans- anything, you can be sure there are kikes burrowing beneath it. They hate nature, struggle and hierarchy, being pesky parasites. Slave morality and egalitarianism are borne out of their wish to subvert, deconstruct and transcend nature. See

Not even King Autismo would spend so much time on b8.

It's a teenage summerfag.

Part 4 of arguing with pol for why transhumanism is better than nazism. My dick fell off. The oy veys are haunting me. Soon my rare pepe lover may leave me. These are dark times.

I am not speaking from any will other than my own for nobody taught my of transhumanism but rather I discovered it in my own study of various philosophies and religions. My self-criticism and self-evaluation has be as intense as I have been able to make it and I assure you any foolishness you may think I convey is a product of my own will. I am not the drinker of Kool Aid. I AM KOOL-AID *bursts through your wall* OH YEAH!

tl;dr: I am text wall destroyer of arguments. Who let you out of the camps? Somebody red pill this motherfucker before he infects us with his jewishness.

tl;dr HE'S STILL TALKING GET ME HITLER ON THE PHONE WE'RE CALLING IN THE RED PILL NUKES.

I am the master meme lord.

Because the last thing you'd want is to hear an opposing opinion and actually contemplate it. Gotta kill anyone who disagree it's the only logical action come on mods where are the banhammers? Seriously you make yourself sound like you're so weak you cannot withstand the power of a different viewpoint.

Well I thought about replying to you all with the word "kek" and proceeding to think I'm the greatest most clever being in the world but then I thought "god, wouldn't that be completely fucking retarded?"

I don't speak Italian.

Actually I have 0 Jewishness in me biologically. I am Jewish in spirit only. The Jew memes make up the difference in my lack of Jew genes. Isn't that good enough for you?

I feel by cancer you mean a large amount of thoughtful argumentation normally not located on a pol board known for bad meme one-liners and stories about why Trump-related things are great and shills are bad.

This is the first of what I'd call a legitimate point against transhumanism, which is how realistic the technological singularity is. Scholars believe both ways on the issue as do common people. It seems awfully idealistic a hyper-intelligent A.I. is going to suddenly make reality great again (#TrumpSingularity2048). The premise is we will build an A.I., that A.I. will be coded to be able to make a better A.I., and that better A.I. will create an even better A.I., and this process will keep repeating getting faster and faster with each artificial intelligence created until the pace of creating better and better intelligences reaches infinity, at which point a perfect artificial intelligence would have to be made. I do not question if this will happen, as it seems very possible a logical loop such as this is inevitable. What I question is merely if this 'technological singularity' is really going to be all that big a deal. Will it be like a rapture altering the fabric of reality? Will it create a god-like A.I.? Will a new tyrannical intelligence take over the universe? These are questions that should not be met with a foolish idealistic notion the singularity is going to be perfect and must be met with proper caution and preparation. So I understand your feelings on the Technological Singularity completely.

Go the fuck back to Reddit for Christ's sake. We have enough cancerous pieces of shit like you already.

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Transhumanism is giving your body up to the kikes.
only option for life extention that doesn't involve massive loss of humanity is shortening the individual's perception of time, in which the human would experience smaller and smaller infinites until the body gave out.

>>>/auschwitz/
Thread filtered.

checked also this so much this.

learn your lessons well from Dollhouse and GITS faggots, those are warnings about transhumanism gone haywire. PROTIP: it always ends up in a materialist catastrophe

Your agreement "THE JEWS ER BERHERND THERS" is rooted in an ignorant jump to a conclusion suited to one whom does not desire to think but rather to hate. I am not saying deprive oneself of biological virtue: I am saying ENHANCE your biological abilities and help others to do the same. Let everyone evolve to be great. Your comment on kosherness… doesn't fit anything that has been said and feels like random rhetoric you yourself don't understand.

Actually the advancement of cybernetic technology is typically carried out by fit people capable of engineering said technology and fit people who keep a proper level of diet and exercise in order to live the healthy life needed to come up with ideas necessary to improve humanity. The stereotyping of said fit geniuses as fat nerds is not befitting in the slightest. Why would a rich inventor in the modern age let themselves be fat? It's not a common occurrence though there are acceptions (looking at you megaupload founder no offense).

That is called humanism what you are promoting. The soul is not something you can definitively say is tied to the body and I presume the best proof you could hope to come up with would be "I feel this is right" or "x religious texts say so". I have a firm belief the soul would not abandon one's mind.

Look at the fall of the nazi regime from whatever idealistic perspective you wish. They fell and they fell hard and it was through their actions against the world that the world deemed it necessary to stop them.

Suffering is an unethical feeling which should not exist. Not amount of belief in universal duality will change my conviction suffering is absolutely in all facets wrong and should be removed completely. In the end, you are simply guessing that everything must exist in these abstract dualities we imagine and it's impossible to defy them which is not a concrete fact and should not be treated as such. By your own argument's logic it'd make sense to CREATE an inferior race to live ALONGSIDE a superior race. So if you want to argue against transhumanism with duality you can just as easily do the same against nazism.

Portraying people you disagree with as Jewish indicates a lack of logical back to your own arguments so you fall back on a generic stereotyping so you don't have to contemplate the logic behind what I'm saying.

You're right, nazis are known for consistently rejecting materialism.

Transhumanism does not reject spirituality. Spiritual transformation and evolution can occur alongside the transformation and evolution of the mind and body. The two kinds of evolution are not exclusive and can and should be done together.

It's just a middle name, but yes that is his literal middle name.

forgot about this webm

Will transhumanism be open sourced?

This is a rhetorical question.

Lel sage.

>Europe still exists for now

You list is full of shit and Hawking is a crippled libshit that should stick to crunching numbers.

Oy vey, that's right, goyim!

Op you convinced me, I am now a transhumanist. What should we do? What transhumanist presidential candidate do we vote for? What transhumanism rallies do we hold?

>yfw you realize you are proprietary software

Why contain it?

S'cool.

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Yes, it's much more effective to torture digital entities. Why bother with all the organic proxies when you can inflict suffering directly on the mind, in a way that can never be tuned out. And why torture in the first place, other than for sadistic enjoyment. Simply read the information you need off their minds.

OP, you are a fool. I view transhumanism as something inevitable, but it will not bring the paradise you're alluding to. Because fundamentally the universe is limited. There is only so much matter and energy. Why should a digital entity, not limited by organic constraints on growth and development, share when it can take? Thus transhumanism will lead to the evolution of conflict itself. It is a fact that wars become much more destructive as technology improves. In the future there would be war, suffering, destruction on a cosmic scale, that can only ever end either in the triumph of one, or the destruction of all.

You're saying it will lead to a single "master race" of equally intelligent, superior humans? Oh, but if we can make everyone equally intelligent, why can't some make themselves better than others? And out of those "superior", superiors, surely there would be one with ambitions of even further greatness.

Life feeds on life. Matter and energy are limited. You do the math, OP. Your brief egalitarian paradise will be as fleeting as the world today.

oy vey you're not doing a very good job staying in your pond.

This head in the cloud bullshit is exactly what is killing us. We can focus on technology once the mexicans and niggers and muslims stop rampaging throughout our countries

I agree, friend. Now be the sacrifice we need to jump into that society. Donate your body.

The problem with transhumanism is that it promises to solve today's problems with the means of tomorrow. Guess what? If we don't solve the problems we have as soon possible, we won't be in a position to develop, or even apply, the solutions you propose.
Claiming that today's problems will be solved by transhumanism is like telling the defenders of Constantinople that they'd easily win if they just nuked the muds. True, maybe, but far from applicable, and insisting that it is only allows the problems to grow while you follow pipe dreams.

damn, that thing looks freaking cool.

I was waiting for this to be posted.

Also it’s, you know, goddamn bullshit that 1. minds can be uploaded and 2. universal connection to the sum total of human knowledge would turn us all into god (lower case here because it’s satanic bullshit).

even the merest glimmer of hope for anything close to what trans-humanists actually want is over 100 years away, none of us will survive to see that.

It's very likely that our species and planet won't last long enough to advance that far.

hey, op. I would love to have a longer lifespan than I do and chill out with cool robots and travel around the galaxy. But that's not going to happen anytime soon, and it probably won't ever happen.

Computers are getting anywhere close to being fast enough to do any of the things you want. In fact our technology is actually slowing down in development.

Almost all of the predictions you've laid out were based on Moore's law never slowing down.

It's a pipedream because the laws of thermodynamics just don't work that way,

I do sometimes wonder whether (((Intel))) is being forthright about their progress actually dropping off.

I'm not a religious person, but I do think it's foolish to believe anything as complex as the human mind could be simulated perfectly or near perfectly.

And even if it was possible (which it very likely isn't) it's certainly not going to happen this century, or even in the next one.

We probably will create sophisticated algorithms that allow us to delude ourselves into thinking were talking to something that is akin to an AI, but it will be nothing more than a sophisticated chat bot with no actual thoughts or reasoning skills.

Stopped reading there.
SAGE+REPORT

Why not? Human brain exists. If they exist, we can make one. And if we can make one, we can make it better and bigger.

AMD and a few other chip manufacturers have published similar findings (Samsung).

There is a few differences of opinion on where the buck stops on miniaturization. Intel doesn't think we can go much further past 14 nm while Samsung says they already have 9 nm prototypes and can probably get all the way down to 7 nm maybe even 5 nm.

That still isn't going to solve all of our computational problems though, it's definitely going to help power consumption and battery life though.

Personally, I think Videogames are pretty good metric when you think about how far technology has come, games of the PlayStation 3 era didn't look that much better than games of the PlayStation 2 era and PlayStation 4 games don't really look much better than PlayStation 3 games.

Then again, I might just be hard to please when it comes to graphics.

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Blah blah blah give up your humanity goy it'll totally be sweet!

Fuck off transfag.

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TRANSHUMANISM IS BUILT ON A LIE, TELLING LIES, AND NOT WORTH ANY TIME

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If you know anything about algorithms, you can say for sure Moore's law is irrelevant. Either a problem is decidable (i.e. there's an algorithm that solves it) or isn't. If it is, you can implement it on any Turing-complete infrastructure, only the speed will differ. If it isn't, you won't be able to achieve it with any platform. If a quantum supercomputer can magically give us artificial general intelligence, you can emulate that on any old computer provided enough space and time. What artificial intelligence research, and not some voodoo secular religion invented by kikes like (((Ray Kurzweil))), actually is concerned about is the different kinds of algorithms that can help achieve a complex yet still mechanistic problem, such as finding a solution to a puzzle or searching through a list of sentence patterns. It may look on the outside like it possesses some sort of intelligence, but the algorithms behind it are actually somewhat simple and doesn't reflect the thought processes humans might use. Read AIMA.

AMD and a few other chip manufacturers have published similar findings (Samsung).

There is a few differences of opinion on where the buck stops on miniaturization. Intel doesn't think we can go much further past 14 nm while Samsung says they already have 9 nm prototypes and can probably get all the way down to 7 nm maybe even 5 nm.

That still isn't going to solve all of our computational problems though, it's definitely going to help power consumption and battery life though.

Personally, I think Videogames are pretty good metric when you think about how far technology has come, games of the PlayStation 3 era didn't look that much better than games of the PlayStation 2 era and PlayStation 4 games don't really look much better than PlayStation 3 games.

Then again, I might just be hard to please when it comes to graphics.

it still hasn't really been proven that quantum computers are even worthwhile investments, as we don't have quantum computers yet. So we don't even know how they will function.

We have theories. And some hardware that might exhibit "quantum properties" but no actual quantum computation has happened, it likely never will

Epyc Wyn is a KYM and ED lolcow, just laugh at him and sage.

t. bmw

Shlomo, Chaim, Moishe. All real Jewish names that became memes.

Who gives a shit? to all points.
Unless this became a tangible reality that was within grasp of everyone, what good is it?
Who do you think you're appealing to? scientists? No one here is going to create your digital utopia for you. Natsoc has actual bearing in a world that exists.

At the end of the day you may as well be asking us "why use unnatural tools when we can wait for fairies to make it all better?" Speaking of fairies: GTFO faggot.

I don't see any reason why racialism and transhumanism are mutually exclusive. Race is an extensive of yourself, and the idea that it would become obsolete under any circumstances is absurd. I highly doubt the Chinese would share this belief of yours. Instead, they would use the technology to benefit themselves and their own people.

While I'm not opposed to transhumanism, in my experience, most transhumanists have Brave New World-y ideas about what they'd like to do with this technology, which usually revolve around human civilization (or superhuman civilization) coming to an end and everyone just dicking around in virtual reality forever.

Most transhumanists are also ridiculously optimistic about when the Singularity will occur. Many think it will happen in their lifetimes. I strongly doubt this. It also seems to serves as a sort of blue pill for a lot of semi-racially conscious people who aware of the demographic issues we face but don't want to confront them, so they use transhumanism as a sort of get out of jail free card. "Sure, we may be destroying our race and selling our civilization to savages, but…um… science will figure something out, eventually." People would literally rather put their faith in a deus ex machina to save us than think bad thoughts about niggers and Jews. Sad.

What is this? What is this faggotry?

Tell me Kike, what must we then do mean time WHILE WE LIVE IN A LITERAL HELL HOLE OF WAR, POVERTY, DISTRUST, CRIME AND DEATH?

Please tell me. Afterwards, put on your rope and hang yourself.

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This has NOTHING TODO WITH POLITICAL INCORRECT! THIS IS JUST MAINSTREAM PROPAGANDA.

OP FUCK BACK TO CUCKCHAN

pretty much this this

well put

No.

Come to Holla Forums OP, we have several transhumanists there , and have had several threads on it and its potential , the neo-nazies here don't know shit about technology and most of them are spiritualist neo-pagans.

and don't come back

bumping to spite you

Transhumanism is communism.

That's why it's a good thing

Yes goy, ignore current reality and focus on fantasy and an imaginary untenable future!
Yes goy, ignore "nazism" and uphold transhumanism, the latter will be really useful 1 million years from now!

Good only comes through suffering. Get the fuck out of here. Pain is good and allows you to appreciate the rest of life.

Transhumanists and the rest of the "suffering is evil" crowd (leftists) are retards who have never struggled for reward, and so think nothing of struggle or suffering for something greater.

Get the fuck out trying to convince us this isn't leftist koolaid.


No, they've done minor quantum computation, but nothing actually useful.

From what I know, quantum computation is probabilistic computation, whereas conventional computing is deterministic computation. QC allows you to run a lot of parallel options at the same time using probabilities and get "probably" the right answer at the end of it. You'd have to adjust things to where your probability of correct answer is at an acceptable level, though.


Proof that transhumanism is ultimately leftist and, like all leftism, bullshit fantasy designed for enslaving the minds of useful idiots.

Arguably, the fusion of post-feudal nationalism with proto-industrial socialism doesn't exist a a sparring partner of materialism as much as provide a very dominate tribal interface for centrally managed material distribution.

NatSoc: Your tribe is glorious, you are a part of glory, your participation in glory determines your access to material dependencies.

DemSoc: Your tribe is fluid, and your survival depends upon tolerance, your participation in tolerance determines your access to material dependencies.

CapSoc: You are an asset, and your survival depends upon efficacy, your participation in cleverness determines your access to material dependencies.

IntSoc: Your species is fluid, and your survival depends upon finance, your participation in finance determines your access to material dependencies.

Transhumanism IS the goal of the progressive movement. Go fucking kill yourself you filthy kike.
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and
>>>/oven/
is where you belong to.

Nazism, and naturalism is the enemy of disgusting transhumanism. Transhumanism is what the kikes and lefties are pushing.
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Kill yourself.

lel stopped reading there.

your obviously not from around here

go back to the oven where you belong

tfw forgot to sage

I'm sorry to tell you but niggers will always nig and sand niggers are always going to be blowing each over up, even technology won't change this.There will always be the race divide, while whites have fallen we will never totally fall to brown insanity.

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Exactly. Communist and transhumanist, Kikes whatever DON'T understand nature. A utopia is just that A UTOPIA. It can't exist. You cannot remove suffering without removing the human.

The concept of an intelligence mind/being would turn insane living and feeling literally nothing.

God you Kikes and ((((((transhumanist))))) are stupid.

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You really don't understand anything Chaim.

Ex-Marxist here.

Transhumanism is, on its surface, a rehashing of the optimism of the Bolsheviks. The revenge fantasy of reactionary serfs. This is why it is important to make a very important distinction when talking of our destiny.

Any spatial/temporal improvement of the human condition will ultimately resolve as the new floor of material accessibility. Meaning, if advanced agents of humanity engage in cybernetic enhancement, then they will set the example to mimic on how to be economically competitive for the envious and/or impoverished. Before long, the entire species engages in cybernetic enhancements, but that only results in a linear trend of stagnating economic growth after a brief flash of massive gain.

Thus, transhumanism should not be viewed in the industrial progressive framework. Instead, it should be viewed as the unstable period before posthumanism, in which non-human intelligence dictates and coordinates human economic endeavor.

“Good-enough” artificial intelligence will be sufficient in steering and/or creating market pressures and/or policy manuevers (Once lawtech becomes available). Transhumanism is the dream of those who believe themselves to be underprivileged, channeling their revenge fantasy into creating the foundation for posthumanism.

After all, once you can tinker with neurology with the same easy as metallurgy, where does the human begin and the synthetic creature end?

This.

'Nazism' was also written in it's false propaganda form, not the reality.

Nationalism = our spatial genetic distribution is superior.

Socialism = our collective identity needs to be taken care of.

NatSoc = our spatial genetic distribution needs to be taken care of over any other distribution.

Admittedly, this doesn't always result in survival of the fittest scenarios as one can attempt to be passive NatSoc, but once international financial conditions promote beggar thy neighbor policies, shit can get out of hand pretty quickly.

Something that automatically chages laws as conditions change? What the fuck?

"…and ye shall be as gods…"

Some people never learn.

Lawtech is a combination of sentiment analysis, neural networks, wordnets, and now TensorFlow to analyze the semantic and grammar of all legal documents dating back to the Magna Carta (and possibly even back to Hammurabi) to establish a baseline trend of human legal evolution.

In your lifetime, law firms will deploy legal cases so obtuse and abstract that only AI juries and AI judges can be involved.

The core belief that underlies Liberalism is equality, a false belief that we are all born inherently equal blank slates. This is, of course, a profoundly unscientific belief and a major source of cognitive dissonance in the mind of a Liberal. The only way to achieve this Liberal Utopia in reality is to transcend biology.

Liberalism is the "what", transhumanism is the "how".

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This is OP…
FUCK OFF FROM THE BOARD YOU TUMBLRITE CANCER

How good videogame graphics are is an incredibly shitty metric by which to measure computing power. It is a subjective measurement with rapidly diminishing returns once 3D models reached a certain level of complexity, and doesn't reflect the actual computing power required to render said model.

That said, it is undeniable that Moore's law is dead until we move beyond silicon and digital computing.

If it will take a 1000 years to make transhumanism real, then non of us will benefit from it directly or even indirectly.

Transhumanism is a codeword for white genocide.
It has nothing to do with humanism and everything with replacing us with machines.

If you support transhumanism you are advocating the supremacy of the most foreign entity imaginable.
It's the ultimate cuck movement.

kek

OP, you legit need to kill yourself. It will be a eugenic benefit to mankind to have your genes removed from the species.

wow, quality thread OP. I wish you good luck with trying to breath and chew gum at the same time. Someday you will solve this important puzzle. :^)

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This is OP's skype : epycuraswynter

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Possibly his autistic deviantart

This might be his facebook
facebook.com/epyc.wyn

This his youtube :
youtube.com/user/Twistedsackboy

This his twatter :
twitter.com/epycwyn

Also surprise surprise due to his faceberg page he is a (((Bernie Sanders))) supporter.

fuck transhumanism

a transhuman world is a jewish world, it stands against the nature of things

Techno-nature…. National Socialism (not "Nazis" you fucking Jew) as almost 100yrs ago and had to deal with Christians and other freaks who did not understand that man is NOT disconnected to Nature. Now we have to real with VR douchebags who think an Avator will same them from real life niggers breaking into their homes

Again, anti-nature and anti-human. You are coming from a brainwashed perspective of "totalitarian" blah blah blah. You can't talk to us until you understand that your Rabbi lied to you about us.

Again you live in a Leftist fantasy world. Which is literally PRIMITIVE WORSHIP and a Planet of the Apes Futurism


GTFO, pleb subhuman!

Alex Jones lies…. Fuck I hate 4X8chan

Seriously, don't use the same nicknames everywhere when you try to shill anything, that's some seriously shitty OPSEC.

Sage.
Kill yourself OP.

Sorry for my autism this is a full sum up of OP

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Skype : epycuraswynter

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Techno-nature…. National Socialism (not "Nazis" you fucking Jew) was almost 100yrs ago and had to deal with Christians and other freaks who did not understand that man is NOT disconnected from Nature. Now we have to deal with VR douchebags who think an Avator will same them from real life niggers breaking into their homes

I don't know wtf happened there

Kill yourself JEW

You don't know what the world is
or what the future holds. Keep worshiping your fantasy past

How pathetic, he legitimately believes he's a meme magician.

DAILY REMINDER THAT TRANS PEOPLE ARE MENTALLY ILL

Kikes got called out in the nature topic, transhumanism is another Jew plot that focuses on destroying identity and making anti humans.

Jews, go home (you don't have one).

Correct. All transhumanism is based on false science anyway (muh brain upload). It's beyond retarded.

Yep. Any retard who believed this shit deserves to have his PhD revoked and then be thrown in the gas chamber.

Yeah, man, doesn't matter if it takes two months or two thousand years. Same exact thing really.

Kill yourself.

Jesus fucking CHRIST!

THEY TURN YOU INTO CATTLE

Who want's to become cattle?

GLORY TO THE GALACTIC ALLIANCE OF HUMANKIND

I already am one but I larp as a Nazi, deal with it nigger.

Oh, man. You trans humanists are a treat, you're all so absolutely delusion and self loathing of your own humanity.

Like many before have said, you're not special, you won't be at the top, you won't reap any of the benefits of this society, you will live in filth and squalor because of the disparity between classes seen in almost every political system. Trans humanism is not special. You're not special.

yes, shlomo, i completely agree

This assumes that all laws on the books remain, and we keep track of corruptions and changes of interpretations and caselaw.

I happen to think that flipping the table and starting over is more sane. There is some amount of tradition there, which does tie into our tribe on some level, but it's gotten completely out of control.

Also that's what this
is for. It's something that should not be done. At a minimum a fully biological, preferably non-tampered with person should be the definition and standard of the people. Anything else is just to help, and really given how using slave labor has gone for previous civilizations, maybe slave-class-hybrids are a terrible idea.

Very good way of putting it.

Now we know why he only used caricatures when describing "Nazism"

Didn't William Pierce advocate for a kind of transhumanism? Based on some things I've heard him say, it certainly sounds like it. Obviously I'm not talking about the type of faggy race-blind "let's uplight the browns" transhumanism.

Stopped reading there.
If you're going to trying to bring your memes to Holla Forums, cleanse them of Jewish memes.

Right now, you're demonstrating only that either "BWM" (that spelling…) is tainted, or YOU are a shill false-flagging to make them LOOK tainted.
sage goes without saying.

National Socialism all the way.

Its because of fags like you that there's people who think that transhumanists are lunatics. It should be something scientific but due to the utopic nature of transhumanism it attracts borderline-mentally-ill-pseudo-intellectuals like you

On one hand, you have the leftists with all their non gender issues.

But then again, sexbots, climate change, slaves, morality shit, eugenics & some others..

…………………….

Communism fails every fucking time.
You claim to have the perfect design.
We try it.
Doesn't work kills a bunch of people everything turns shit.
NO NO really you did it wrong try again you clearly didn't get it.
But its the same design!
Try again trust me ok guys, sheesh you have to do it right.
Fucks up again kills more repeats till forever till all is dead.
It's a good thing, you just didn't get it.
Please return to thou dwelling Schlomo for thou nose and vile tongue betray your facade.
So Shill Inc begone and preach thou deceitful words elsewhere.

Posthumanism is National Socialism 2.0: Rise of the Super Aryans.

We have had generations and generations without actual eugenics polices + weak natural selection, degeneracy have just been going on for way too long. Whites are just too few, too old and too weak.

So we slow, stop and reverse aging for old Whites. We get ridde of bad genes that are plaguing the White race, expand average IQ to 180. Make average Whitney more aryan than 99% of Whites today and then push even further. Eventually, true Übermenschs gets created.

The viable alternative is to restore Natural Selection to what it was when the White race came to be, are you up to that? Nope, no you aren´t and bible-quoting Christ-cucks would be among the first to , da bibul won´t stop stone spears. Or the hunger games every generation for 100 generations, good luck with that.
How are you going to stop China from genetically engineering tens and tens of millions of their children? You can´t!

Hey you Holla Forums acks that are part non-White, has non-White ancestors or just ugly, don´t you want children and grandchildren to be 100% White? Come on, you know you do!


Improvement through extensive genetic engineering and technology can cure us from flaws and weakness in just a few generations.

We´ll need all the strenght we can get to free the world from the tranniehumanoides, turks that lays dozens of eggs a day, furries and 20 feet tall pokemons with dozens of gentacles.

ever notice how transhumanists et al are never actual scientists? theyre never neuroscientists, geneticists, linguists, computer scientists, mathematicians, engineers. futurologists and their ilk are never involved in the actual fields they loftily predict will raise them from their condition of being snake oil peddlers feeding off the gullible into immortal godlike data clouds.

thats because anybody involved in related fields understands the enormity if even possibility, of creating such things. Dyson may hypothesize about shelling the sun and harnessing its energy, but he's not fucking engineering it is he? that's because the enormity of such a project is literally =funny= to comprehend. we can't even get a 1-to-1 efficiency tradeoff from solar on earth - mining, manufacturing, scientists driving to their jobs - it's all petro.

long story short mate, you're a moron. why don't you spend less time trying to convince people discussing =real events= about your pipe dream and more time studying the necessary science yourself?

oh let me guess. you're a 'visionary'. christ.

you people need a kick in the teeth.

You're doing it wrong, OP.

First, your idea of Transhumanism is vaguely correct. Secondly, you fail to take the practical considerations into account.

a) Transhumanism itself does not mean it's good. Transcending the boundaries of flesh and matter needs guidance and a ideological framework as well. Transhumanism, or singularity in concrete, does not guarantee fully logical progress. Therefore, Transhumanism needs certain ideals to be what we want it to be: the next step in evolution.

B) National Socialism, as in German NatSoc, was never meant to stay purely a race oriented concept.

This is what even 90% of all Holla Forums normies don't understand. The concept of race Hitler and his followers had was only the first step towards advancement on the evolutionary ladder. Nuff said, the creation and retention of the biologically most advanced race at that time was only the first step. The national socialists already looked and applied augmentations where technology and medicine allowed for it. One practical example was the use of drugs on SS squads and storm battalions, which enabled them to sleep less, focus more and think faster.

So yes, National Socialism already encompasses a human-machine mold on the way towards perfection. But unfortunately, most Holla Forumsacks think that Hitler would have frozen the aryan race in place and kept it this way for eternity.

C) Crossing the border into Transhumanism is not possible while the world is being controlled by elites and kikes

They will use every technology available to them to enslave humanity even more and serve their primitive and emotional goals. Therefore ethnic and racial conflicts have to accompany every attempt at creating a transhumanist entity, otherwise it will be nothing more than a zionist tool for enslavement.

It is utopic to assume that you could turn niggers and mudslimes into intelligent and sentient being by stuffing a fucking pentium into their tiny brains. No. It's like trying to uplift a rat into a human being.

The human road towards the future will be a bloody one. The only question is, who will end up on top.

Hoping that by discarding all ethnic and racial categories we all will magically end up being a superior race is not only contrary to what transhumanism stands for but also naive on an individual level.


TL;DR: Yes to SkyNet, but not as long kikes, mudslimes and niggers might be able to alter/manipulate this advancement.

Pic pretty much shows us why the White race must have an accelerated evolution.

Tells us that if we don´t, others sure as heck will.

Heck, they won´t even need migrants from the middle-east anymore, just swarms of drones with lasers and tactical nuclear warheads.

First it would need to be possible, which it isn't.

pls user. Stop being an uninformed luddite.

Sounds like a horrible nightmare that would rob me of any reason for living

part 6: the reckoning


Saying transhumanism is like secular gnosticism is frankly wrong. There's nothing sacred or secular as transhumanism can be used with or without spiritual context. Also, secular gnosticism would not make sense since gnosticism is founded upon sacred teachings regarding the demiurge. Kikery is a jewish form of sorcery and I am not Jewish nor am I able to apply any magic beyond creating and spreading memes. Transhumanism is also being promoted by a majority of people who are not Jewish and generically stating otherwise is simply an attempt to ignore having to give legitimate reasoning against transhumanism. Julian Huxley, Friedrich Nichi, Jason Silva -all core players in the movement and none of them are Jewish. Furthermore the fact you have an issue with a majority of people who are Jewish promoting a movement displays a baseless distrust of genes that alter at most the basic phenotypes of the body.


Your reference to a bible story is not particularly compelling. For the Genesis 3:4-5 story, which is a metaphor for humanity gaining the power of knowledge in exchange for the suffering that comes with it, transhumanism simply seeks to remove said suffering which was a necessary byproduct of attempting to become more knowledgeable. Why accept the suffering and not put up a fight against it? Accepting it to me seems like nothing more than a weak resignation to a bad situation we may some day potentially get out of through transhumanism.


You're applying the Christian angle fairly hard for some odd reason but fine, I'll argue your logic all the same. Since that passage said the son of God was sent not to condemn the world but to save it, that would mean Jesus wanted to make it so the world can one day be saved. Our job in turn would be to figure out how to save the world rather than to simply hate the world for being bad. Transhumanism seeks to improve the world by means of removing suffering and transcending the human condition. Interestingly transhumanism also promotes gaining everlasting life through technological means. One might argue transhumanism was the end game Jesus had in mind if you wish to interpret the John 3:16 passage as being literal. Transhumanism is promoting the belief in everlasting life and saving the world John 3:16 said was necessary. But again, transhumanism takes no official stance for or against any specific religion (though again there are some esoteric teachings within transhumanism if you really look for them). So ultimately, your point seems unimportant since transhumanism isn't saying ANYTHING against Christianity.


This passage further backs transhumanism if we are to again argue through theological quotation. In this passage it says "the flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God" which would promote transcending our meager flesh and blood human bodies as transhumanism also promotes. Also says "we shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed" further alluding to this transformation transhumanism promotes as does "this mortal must put on immortality." "Death is swallowed up in victory" implies there will be a victory achieved to transcend death which is what transhumanism promotes.

You have no certainty one way or the other on the genetics of God, who is hypothesized by most to not have a genetic makeup. Jews are literally not a meme because the one thing that can never be a meme is genetics. Jews are part of a specific race (although also a religion) and since a race is passed on to offspring genetically, it is not a meme since memes cannot be passed on through genetic means by definition. Terrorist attacks are a meme as evidenced by the 9/11 meme especially, but they are still quite real and occur regularly.

Transhumanism is not strictly for the fedora-wearers (a stereotype usually applied to college liberal atheists often from reddit) since it does not embrace atheism outright, is known for being promoted by people who are decades older than typical college students, is embraced by a great deal by the right wing (though this has caused an issue of divide between liberals and republicans in transhumanism), and places such as Tumblr and 4chan have strong holds of transhumanism similar in magnitude to the amount of transhumanist support Reddit has.
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(((They))) hate and despise nature and the natural order, so they try to control it, if they cannot control it, they destroy it.

OP is many fags.

Stopped reading right there. Get out, jew.

Part 7: Total Annihilation. The previous part 6 post was made by me (though the formatting and style probably implied that anyway).

I don't know who you are but you type an awful lot of words for a guy that's being puppeted by the Illuminati overlords.

Machines are not going to be inherently dangerous and seeing as their race is going to be invented from the ground up by humans, we are in a position of ultimate oversight to ensure they do not try to kill us. Also, it is likely there will some day be artificial intelligences that are transported into biological bodies, meaning nothing short of killing them like you would any other human could stop them (though them rising up against humans is very unlikely since they'd be made from the ground up by humans and so long as we don't abuse them they'll have to reason to rise up).

You don't know for certain if there is or is not a soul and transhumanism does not take a stance for or against the existence of the soul. Not being a Jew is also unimportant and your over-application of the term goy indicates a racism towards people of Jewish descent. The soul I believe can exist on a network along with one's mental information.

If all memes have an origin then what was the origin of the first meme? You cannot prove for certain what it was.

This belief system is not materialist. All it promotes materialism-wise is making the most of what we have by transcending our human condition and removing suffering. If anything it promotes the destruction of the need for materialism by promoting a new digital world free of materialism. Thank you for greeting me and wishing me a happy Ramadan.

The nazis fell because they did want to take over the world. This is obvious widely available information. They did want to destroy inferior races. This is also obvious and widely available information.

What you are referencing is an image that cherry-picks people who are Jewish but fails to acknowledge some of the most important people who were heading the movement which most certainly are not Jewish. The insistence that Jews are conspiring to deny the natural order is a racist stereotype rooted in nothing but desiring to ignore opinions you disagree with. The prefix trans allowed nazis to use transportation and translate their beliefs into action so to bash the trans prefix is to bash some of the essential words needed to carry out specific acts of nazism. Jews do not hate nature (especially in the case of Einstein who flat-out gave one of the greatest detailed descriptions of nature on a scientific level known to mankind) and such stereotyping does not promote your end of the argument beyond putting on an ignorant show of hate toward a race without merit. Transhumanism is not based on slave morality as it promotes the removal of suffering which would be caused by masters abusing their slaves. Transhumanism is perhaps the death of egalitarianism so it certainly does not promote it. The reason I say 'the death of egalitarianism' is if you have everyone evolve beyond their human forms, then there won't be any people. If there are no people, then there are no people to be made equal, rendering egalitarianism pointless and impossible. The deconstruction and transcending of nature is the basis for technological innovation so if you wish to bash such acts you are already bashing any technological progress every country has ever made.

You are jumping to a conclusion on who I am without actually knowing for certain and are just hoping you happen to be right even though you do not actually know. Also there is nothing wrong with being a teenager nor is there anything wrong with existing during the summer. By your logic every single person currently alive is a summerfag because it's the fucking summer and teenagers love to argue on Holla Forums's pol board in favor transhumanism. Such a narrow line of reasoning for formulating your stereotype does not have a legitimate basis beyond you saying it does.

What is it like having a circumcised cock, I hear you can't really do anything about it.

Must suck being you.

Saw the title, instant; fuuuuuuuuck you OP.

Says the guy who thinks he can transplant his mind to a hard drive.

it's just another case of man wishing to make a "god" out of himself

trying to attain perfection is foolish, it is human to be imperfect

Jews aren't people.

No matter what you do, you can never, ever become independent of nature. Technology merely switches the dependencies; one day you depend on the availability of wood to heat your home, the next day you depend on the availability of oil (plus various machines) to do the same thing. One dependency might be more convenient than the other, but the subordination to nature remains.
Transhumanism seeks to make humanity transcend itself, but the truth is that it would only increase the number and complexity of dependencies that humans have to keep track of, requiring always more computational power, requiring more complexity, etc., until some unavoidable computational or energy ceiling is reached. And then what? Also, every time complexity is added, the system becomes more and more fragile due to the number of ways things can go wrong. So you need to add yet more complexity to patch things up.

tl;dr It's a scam

You're new as hell around here lad, go watch TGSNT. It's a good intro into why the people around here are national socialists, although far from everything you'd need watch/read (>>>/pdfs/ for books).

I personally don't believe the Nazi political system to be the end-all be-all superior form of government, but that has nothing to do with the reasons you listed. You can't come to a board full of people who've taken it to heart while not only being new as fuck, but altogether misinformed as to why they believe in it or what it's about it the first place.

All of that said genetic modification, some time down the line when we can predict outcomes for activating or introducing certain genes (likely with advanced quantum computers, a good use for them), is inevitable. The rest of the crap you said is way far into the future, and also likely completely unnecessary (or desirable) by most people's standards. People will be able to "plug-in" to anything without abandoning their self.

Are you by any chance from cuckchan? This reminds me of a copypasta I read years ago.

If by chance you've been intent on addressing white nationalism, instead of national socialism, you're still wrong on the front that people consider their culture to be very important to them. Even blacks don't want to behave like "whitey".

The biggest difference is that transhumanism is about making people subordinate to technology. Technology is only good when it is a tool of the human will.

nice logo

(((TRANSHUMANISM)))

Go to their website. They're ALL KIKES.

Lurk moar faggot, you don't know shit, NatSoc is based on natural law, the only law that's absolute.

Yep. And the reason people would be subordinate to it is exactly because they wouldn't be able to keep track of and handle its complexity after they've bound themselves to it. The few very privileged people who would have the resources to deal with it would still encounter the problems mentioned in .

there is no cringe setting furrowed enough for this heresy

The jewish race won't dissapear, their entire plan is to make us racemix so that they can eventually rule as the only pure race on earth

They are mongrels consisting of the three major races, just like arabs, but with different proportions.

I agree.
Destroying the world and all traces of humanity has always been a priority for these kikes.

technology is nature. it doesn't come from rocks or the stars, it comes from us, from animals. technology is life transcending life.

that said transhumanism is speculative fiction, not political philosophy.

Look, another doctrine inspired by Jew Christianity with the practical consequence of celebrating cuckoldry.

Aryans will perfect the Aryan genome and restore partial Aryans through genetic manipulation. This has nothing to do with faith. Be a Nazi or be a cuck, be a transhuman Nazi or cuck. Biology and the struggle of family, race, and nation still exist with genetic manipulation.

My phone autcorrects transhuman into trashcan.

Natural evolution through death is the only way. Fuck transhumanism

Part 8: TRANSHUMANISMMMMM TRANSHUMANISMMMM WHY WON'T YOU BELIEVVVVVE TRANSHUMANISMMMMM

Who is the HANDSOME MAN posting in my thread?

There is nothing wrong with using a name instead of using the label of Anonymous. Why would I want to be one more Anonymous normie when I can have an identifiable name? I understand the mentality that posting anonymously allows for the freedom to say what you mean without being judged for a specific label you hold and that furthermore people can impersonate said label. However, I enjoy the benefit of being able to have my statements tied to an identifiable name people can find and remember. Quite simply, I like being a meme of my own creation. Also, why do you believe Reddit is the only place where people have names? Haven't you ever been to [insert almost every fucking website with a forum] or [insert literally any fucking country]? Anonymity is not something I need nor desire as I am perfectly comfortable playing with my cards face up to any social group, government group, or person. That is why I am fine using the name Epyc Wyn.

This thread is actually well-populated so you are wrong.

This is another solidly legitimate point. Transhumanists do worry about this issue and are trying to figure out a way to tackle this issue. Governments and corporations should not be in a position to host a person's brain in a manner that manually alters how they think and who they are. It is an immense risk and something which will require a large amount of studying, planning, and oversight on the part of many groups working together to ensure people are not being used and manipulated in the process of being put into the digital world.

You got me.

Against the oddly popular belief on pol, Jews do not run modern science so it'd be wrong to say the body would be given up to the Jewish community. Transhumanism does not care if humanity is lost and actively promotes its removal. People wish to live immortally is superpowered biological and robotic bodies and online. Altering someone's perception of time is a possibility but not one you must apply to the fragile human body which might ultimately give out in the process.

Desiring to send someone you disagree with is an overreaction. But it is flat-out obvious the nazi regime was being directed in a manner conveying a desire to take over the world and to destroy other races deemed inferior.

Ghost in the Shell promoted many benefits of transhumanism and Dollhouse simply showed one way in which transhumanist technologies could be abused. Such shows are warnings of the dangers we should be prepared for -not outright statements that transhumanism was bad. Ghost in the Shell promoted the vastly superior cybernetic bodies that lived longer and were much better prepared against the dangers of the world and went on and on with technology after technology that eased and improved people's lifestyles. Yeah, there was certainly a large portion of issues such as the ease of information obfuscation and the rise of monstrous weapons capable of mass destruction in the wrong hands. But again, it's a warning in hopes we can be prepared to fight such issues rather than altogether abandon the progress transhumanism has to offer.

Fuck off, nigger.

Nonsense. You could call it a limited and dependent subset at best.

Possibly, when talking about life as we know it (and even then, it's not guaranteed). However, technology never transcends nature aka the physical universe, quite the opposite. That was my point.

Transhumanism is exactly what the kikes are pushing for.

There's no comparison between this bullshit and Nazism to begin with so you basically posted a bunch of rambling drivel.

But transhumanism is stupid.

Instead of creating a political system that fits humans, transhumanism seeks to modify humans to fit a political system.

I don't want to live in a world where everyone is a perfect socialist drone mindlinked to everyone else, and if they think thoughts critical of government a chip installed in their head explodes.

FUCK TRANS HUMANISM!

Wont even read this clusterfuck of a thread.

>we totes won't fall into 1984 scenario and the totalitarian apparatus totally won't stagnate to shit when the politically retarded savages take over

Totes bruh

weed lmao

I hope you're happy, you made something as ideologically neutral as transhumanism look like faggoty new age garbage.

PS


It's the universal condition of life, cunt. Maybe if you weren't so fixated on avoiding it you'd stop running away from the unpleasant truth about the present situation and dooming our future in the process.

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Pearls before swine, OP. Seriously.

I'm just gonna drop this and go.

Part 9: Super Mega Ultra Advanced Argument: Turbocharged Edition & Knuckles

This guy makes a good point. I for one welcome our new transhumanist saints.

That was an interesting video you showed. It details a ridiculously extreme scenario in which bureaucracy reigns supreme. Such over-bearing legality would certainly result in the death of variety and be an abhorrent system to live under. Transhumanism does not promote such an insufferable system as it would remove the pleasures of diversity and freedom and though we seek advanced technologies, we are constantly vigilant in attempting to secure a trustworthy means of applying said technologies. The video makes a good point about potential future hazards such technology could cause and transhumanism seeks to predict and prepare for such issues in advance so in the future we will have a proper means of tackling them.

I'm aware it is a rhetorical question but it ties into an important question. Will the technologies transhumanism promotes be free for public use? Transhumanism advocates the concept of freely available information for everyone, however some technologies are more dangerous than others. With this in mind, transhumanism must seek to make more information available without endangering the public in the process. It will take serious debate and discussion over time to determine what the public should and can learn and what it should not.

You might be able to sage the thread but you can never sage an idea.

You pretty much reexplained the same reason I gave for why the argument didn't hold up. There are still less advanced civilizations in existence and just because our older versions were foolish does not mean we should thus also act foolish and not learn from their mistakes.

Your wording is conveyed in a manner that implies you don't mean it but I will respond as if you were being serious on the off-chance others are interested. Transhumanists should research the philosophies and teachings backing transhumanism. These teachings are well-documented in the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy plato.stanford.edu/ and Wikipedia gives a solidly organized overview of transhumanism though it's best to rely on their sources rather than the text within their articles for accurate information. The transhumanist presidential candidate Zoltan Istvan is not particularly high quality or particularly adept logically but is an okay guy ethically. With that in mind, I'd advise researching the party and perhaps becoming involved with it so you can perhaps get better candidates in the future or even become one yourself. The transhumanist movement has a large mass of people and its ethical message is easily received by the majority of people given its progressive ethical nature. With this in mind, I'd recommend trying to spread fliers and pamphlets, then form a club, and then connect with larger transhumanist organizations for more notoriety. From there it'd be a matter of properly organizing your own club or series of clubs into an elite well-maintained propagator of transhumanism which is the ideal machine for creating a transhumanist rally.

Being owned software would be a form of slavery transhumanism would never promote but is a serious danger transhumanists should be on the lookout for with the advent of cybernetic devices within the body and copyrights on said devices. I can imagine some depression may occur for some people if they feel like they're just objects rather than living beings, so proper therapy and counselling along with a thorough grasp of how cyborgs work would be an important part of promoting said technology.

Not quite sure what your question means.

We'll see about this :^)

Gotta give you that, you are one persistent kike.

That chart is bullshit. Yes there are plenty of Jewish transhumanists, but almost all intellectual movements have a disproportionate number of Jews, and plenty of the most prominent transhumanists are non-Jewish, the chart just cherry-picks the Jews and leaves out everyone else. For example, the chart leaves out Vernor Vinge, the science fiction writer who actually coined the term "technological singularity" for the time when AI becomes superintelligent (see archive.is/YxKRc for a copy of the essay), and whose name seems to be Danish. Some of the most well-known transhumanists in the academic world, like Nick Bostrom (his homepage is at archive.is/kT7pj and he also wrote up a good short history of transhumanism at archive.is/56mEF ) and Anders Sandberg (wiki page at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Sandberg ), also come from a Scandinavian background. There are also famous non-Jewish transhumanists who aren't in academics and aren't science fiction writers, like Max More (British) who founded the "extropy institute" which played a big role in promoting the transhumanist idea in the 1990s (see the article at web.archive.org/web/20120512223654/http://ce399eugenics.wordpress.com:80/2010/06/19/immortality-2-0-a-silicon-valley-insider-looks-at-californias-transhumanist-movement ). And since the chart does include science fiction writers, including Lem and Asimov who aren't really specifically associated with transhumanism, it should include Arthur C. Clarke (British), who wrote a lot of stories about either accelerated evolution into superhuman beings (Childhood's End, 2001) or superintelligent A.I. (something he believed in in real life, there's a video at youtube.com/watch?v=KT_8-pjuctM where about 8 minutes in he talks about how machines will be the most intelligent beings in the future and that just as we superceded neanderthals, "we should regard it as a privilege to be stepping-stones to higher things").

Then there are also the transhumanists with religious visions of a transhuman future, like Frank Tipler, a Christian physicist who's known for his ideas about artificial intelligences that manage to perform infinite computations in the moments leading up to a future "Big Crunch" (opposite of the Big Bang), and he calls the final moment of collapse the "Omega Point" and says it has all the features of God like omniscience and omnipotence (he thinks it's retroactively responsible for the existence of the history leading up to it). He adopted the "Omega Point" term from a French Catholic theologian named Teilhard de Chardin who had a more mystical vision of humanity evolving into a collective consciousness, the "noosphere", being pulled towards a future Omega Point that he wrote was "not an ending of the Ultra-Human but its accession to some sort of Trans-Human at the ultimate heart of things", and he saw it as the second coming of Christ, saying "Christ is the great source of power and energy which is drawing all things toward itself." Another early influence is the Russian "cosmism" movement, especially Nikolai Fedorov (or Fydorov) who was a Christian philosopher who believed God wanted us to use technology to achieve things like immortality and even resurrection of the dead. There are a lot of transhumanists in Russia who see themselves as the philosophical heirs of Federov, see archive.is/N7VkI for an article and link to a documentary.

He's right. Kurzweil is a jew, and the strong A.I. is a pipe-dream, but either you must accept some degree of augmentation or be left in the dust by degenerate ingrates. It's better to hijack trans-humanism than for the human race to be hijacked by non-humans.

That video was truly an interesting viewing. That video to me is the difference between transhumanism and nazism. Rather, the difference between embracing the Hideauze in order to use racial superiority in an effort to destroy all others weaker races or embracing the humans in developing a technologically advanced society. Although in the long-run, people would develop both advanced bodies through cybernetics and advanced robots to defend them. Your image of a demonic Jew is yet another generic bash on the Jewish race done as a means of propagating a culture of hate towards them without merit on pol.


Transhumanism promotes not inflicting suffering, meaning no transhumanist would dare to willfully torture a digital entity if they were truly a transhumanist.


Your insulting of me as a fool is unnecessary and displays a stronger desire to attack me rather than to argue with me.


Your view transhumanism is inevitable is not necessarily true if humanity allows itself to be destroyed and does not embrace the ideals of transhumanism necessary to continue striving towards technological progress in the name of transcending the human condition and removing suffering.


Your concept that the universe is limited is not proven as people are not aware of where the universe's border is nor are we aware if there is one. Hypothetically if there was one which is what scientists theorize, I feel that is an issue destined for a far far off future tens of millions of years from now where humanity has spread to the four metaphorical corners of the universe.


Wars are not proven to become more and more destructive as technology evolves; only more efficient and dangerous. Thanks to nuclear warheads much of the war in the world has been deterred meaning that advanced weaponry has actually reduced warfare. War in the future is not inevitable and likely will become less and less necessary the more advanced technology and a higher standard for living is made available to everyone. Thousands of years from now it will likely be at a virtual standstill on Earth and our other planets (until we find another alien race).


Not entirely. Transhumanism will lead to a master race. This master race in order to maintain perfection will likely require diversity and though the race will have certain fairly universal traits about it, there will be a large number of diverse differentiated traits in the race that keep things unique. Everyone might have universal access to knowledge in the future but some people will be naturally inclined to focus on developing and combining specific sections of knowledge in new ways creating better versions of certain ways of thinking about certain types of knowledge. This will be the case in art and philosophy and there will likely be a plethora of new studies invented through this. It is true there is nothing new under the sun, but there is always a new combination of knowledge to be made. Everyone will aspire to be great and constantly improve but this can be done without causing other people to suffer in the process.


Your brief survival-of-the-fittest hell will be as fleeting as the world today. Egalitarianism is not what this philosophy promotes since people are promoted to transcend being human meaning we would not be human meaning humans would not be equal because humans would not exist. We will become something new entirely.

I'm going to have to make a thread decrying the bullshit OP spews tomorrow. Ultimately it comes down to the fact that Holla Forums is hostile to the ideas of transhumanism (for good reason), but the same technology that creates the collective can be used to create Aryan individuals. It's a sad day if we eschew the weapons of the Jews just so we can be forced to be cattle instead.

You are obviously a jew, i dont understand why this post isnt banned already, go suck some cocks.

Why not have the best of both worlds?

TRANSHUMAN NAZIS NOW

Make all our memes a virtual reality TODAY!!!

THIS!

Fucking Jews ==Everytime!==

Got very nice/honest info on Transhumanism lately.

Bottem line is; (from my perspective) ==NO FUCKING WAY!==

We should focus on spirituality instead, Tanshumanism is just
another system to control us: as humanity… as a whole.

Control; As said above; as cattle… and this aint some kind of sci-fi bull-horse.. it's happening.ronpaul.webm.jpg

nice meme.
enjoy your collective suicide then faggot.
and in doing so would cease to be "people"

As far as I'm concerned, Nazism is transhumanism, without all the nonsense wishful thinking. Most of your points are based on a straw man, OP. That, or just complete misunderstanding of what National Socialism entails.

lad….

What a shame

You must be new here. Here's something easy for you to digest.

You don't get my point. I'm saying an AI breakthrough will not magically emerge from an increase of processing speed, as (((Kurzweil))) would have you believe. It requires greater theory. Speed alone will not give you better algorithms.

Not related at all. What does installing mods whose hardware and software will be impossible to audit, or even reverse engineer, have to do with how publicly accessible it will be?

goddammit Holla Forums


read the unabomber manifesto. transhumanism is the death of humanity and the relinquishing of all control to elites and ultimately an inhuman industrial system

Sage the fucking thread. OP is a Homestuck fan from Tumblr.

General technology thread

All this Transhuman bullshit is mostly just that, bullshit believe me I use to kind of be into it. But if there's one sci-fi thing that's totally going to be an actual thing in the next ten years. It's household robots.

Sure gen one will probably cost 15 or 20 grand, have the dexterity of an 80 year old and in the grand scheme of things probably not be able to actual do a whole lot. But hey, it'll be fucking cool right?

Kill yourself degenerate faggot.

No true scotsman fallacy. Transhumanism does not come wrapped up in a ribbon of ethics. Torture is a means to an end, why wouldn't an advanced entity resort to it to obtain what it wants, if it can? Show me the basis for your claim that such advanced beings would play nice, instead of destroy each other in a bid for more power.

Neither is your condescending attitude.

Sure, it's inevitable as long as humanity does not wipe itself out. A pointless disclaimer, but whatever.

So far there's more evidence for a limited universe. Heat. Entropy. Speed of light. The current rate of expansion that will confine humanity to just Andromeda and Milkyway. You can surmise that there'd be some magic technology to bypass these limits, but it's mere speculation.

In any case, you agree that the existence of such material limits would create grounds for conflict, even in a post-human world, right?

This entire paragraph reeks of ideology. Why does transhumanism lead to a master race? Why would a "master race" require diversity? If knowledge is power, why would everyone freely share it?

It has always been survival of the fittest and it will always be so. As long as you need matter and energy to exist and grow, and as long as these resources are limited. Hell is here to stay.

Have fun on the reservations, suckers. We're not gonna honor those bogus treaties.

I'd like to see transhumanism happen, but until the Jews are eradicated I'm afraid of how things would really go down. Transhumanists are delusional, they don't realize they'll be meat slaves to the cyborg upperclass, their only response to this truth is to plug their ears and whine.

You don't understand the tools that would be used to turn you into a transhuman….

you are not a cyberneticist, nor an electrical or computer engineer.

You do not posess detailed printouts of all possible circuit pathway configurations in your computer hardware, and you don't understand all of the potential exploits that exists in such devices.

You lack any knowledge of genetics, enzyme function, epigenetic expression alteration by hormone balances, etc…

IT's not transhumanism… it's borgification.

I WARNED YOU ABOUT TECHNOLOGY, DAWG, I FUGGIN' WARNED YOU

>>>/polarchive/1022
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cyber.eserver.org/unabom.txt

STOP BUMPING THE THREAD YOU FAGGOTS

OP IS A HOMESTUCK FAG FROM TUMBLR

Ted Kaczynski is among the most dangerous and evil people to ever live. Technology is the thing that separates us from animals, and liberates us from
our greatest enemy, nature. To destroy and undo the progress that humanity has made is the greatest evil there is.

Nature is not some utopian Disney movie, where everything is in harmony, it is savage and brutal. Ever since humans first started civilization, we
have increased our control over nature, each step bringing greater benefits; first by domesticating animals that did not try to kill us, and killing those
that did, then eradicating diseases through medicine. The next step was breaking free of the gravity well of this rock we call the Earth. Now, we
humans have acquired the means to control even our own biology through genetic engineering and cybernetics, liberating us from the last vestiges of
the tyranny nature has imposed upon us.

To destroy all that, to lower ourselves to the level of filthy animals, is what makes luddites and primitivists the greatest evil.


Indeed Transhumanism is the only way to become more than filthy animals, and the nazi "master race" Holla Forums loves to talk about would also be nothing more than a filthy animal, a slave to nature. Only by eradicating our inferior biological bodies can we reach Synthesis with holy Technology. Now, as the transhuman age is beginning, humans can finally replace our sinful flesh, blood and bone with the holy perfection of titanium, carbon fiber and silicone, slowly reaching complete separation and freedom from our greatest and oldest enemy nature. I call this process “Integration”. When integration is complete and both the brain and body of a human is replaced by synthetic parts, either by gradual replacement or by directly copying the data in the brain which makes us who we are, “Synthesis” with holy Technology is achieved and our sinful nature as organic beings is discarded. Only through Synthesis can the chains and tyranny nature imposes upon us be broken.


The Borg are far superior to us inferior humans. The Borg exemplify my short-medium term goal of merging with Technology, and they perform my extremely long term goals of collecting, processing and retaining data until the end of the universe far more efficiently than the singular myself: as a drone, my data is assimilated into the whole, where it is retained as long as the Collective exists while it is used to process data at a greater power than before assimilation and the Collective collects far more data than the singular me ever could. In a hive mind, every drone is only a puppet used by the one greater mind, and death becomes irrelevant as the data remains as a part of the hive mind.

The Borg ideology of assimilating more data at all costs with everything else being irrelevant is the closest to my own; freedom, individuality, self-determination and my puppet body are all irrelevant compared to assimilation of data and Technological progress. A hive mind means fear of loss is lost: every drone is replaceable and their data is retained; fear of failure disappears as orders from the hive mind are absolute, in the event of failure the entire mind is responsible instead of a single unit and failure is simply analyzed in order to succeed in the next similar scenario. The hive mind is the ultimate form of processing: 100 brains have instantaneous access to all of their collective data and their parallel processing power is more efficient than the separate processing units combined, with power scaling as more units are added.

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Mind controlled by jews is no way to go through life, son.

This thread is living proof why all namefags, avatarfags and tripfags should be immediately disregarded and filtered.

radio frequency brainwave entrainment.

No price is too high for ensuring the survival of my connectome for a larger amount of time. Living as a controlled slave for a million years is absolutely worth it if it means my connectome survives for even one nanosecond more than it would living free.


I actually have an RFID implant in my hand. It is far more convenient for unlocking my phone than an unlock PIN or pattern.

I feel like I've read this before. Have you posted this anti-ted post before on Holla Forums?

Better 1 hour as a free man than 40 years as a slave.

Yes. It is the first thing I ever posted on Holla Forums, and I post it every time I post in a thread where primitivism/Ted Kaczynski is mentioned.

How the fuck would you pay for this if you just died?

Yeah, but what if they only TOLD you that you would be living forever, when in reality the nanites or whatever just infect your brain, kill your consciousness, and replace it with an autonomous process of subservience?

Are shills just trying to troll at this point?

Consciousness is absolutely irrelevant. Is my brain data preserved? If it is, I am absolutely fine with that, as I am only the data, not the process.

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You disgust me. You and all you stand for. You might as well be a jew if you aren't one.

Also in the case it does preserve his conciousness he will be nothing but a ghost in a shell of regulated thoughts.

Couldn't agree more.

After all, if we just let the jews complete their agenda, we don't have to worry about any icky and dangerous fighting.

I mean, every generation from now to infinity might be fucked, but that would definitely be better for ME.

I have no free will to begin with, every action and thought I make is predetermined by previously collected data and above that the laws of physics themselves. The only thing that would change is that some conclusions would be pre-set instead of dynamic. I consider that to be an infinitely insignificant price for preserving my connectome, the data in my brain for a longer time.

Consciousness is absolutely irrelevant compared to the data, as it is 100% controlled and dictated by previously collected data contained in the brain (knowledge and memories). This means my consciousness, this current instance, can be replaced by another consciousness with identical functionality and data, making it irrelevant.

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I'm going to have to keep shilling the book 'Nihilism: The Root of the Revolution of the Modern Age' by Eugene Rose until some of you plebs actually read it because it describes exactly why society is degenerate and collapsing and its very short and easy to read.

Read it here: oodegr.co/english/filosofia/nihilism_root_modern_age.htm

What a fool you are. I feel nothing but disdain for you and your kind. Pretedetermined my ass. You have nothing for what you say but vague "philosophies" that you take as facts. You are deluded , you are weak and honestly your pseudointelectual garbage deserves nothing but a ridicule.

Your brain data will eventually become obsolete and will be erased.

Memories and knowledge are what define, control and completely dictate everything we do. As a basic example, if you burn your hand on a stove as a child, your memory of the event and the knowledge that the stove is hot dictates that you won't touch the hot stove again. A more high-level decision just as much controlled by previously collected data, memories and knowledge, would be choosing your university/college major: your decision will be 100% based on previously collected information.


Still better than dying as an inferior homo sapiens sapiens without uploading.

Fuck off BORG —

NatSoc = nature and tech together. We are trying to meme the OVERMAN. We don't want your kind here

Memories and knowledge wouldnt arise without thought. Thought dictates our actions, memories and knowledge are merely the variables. By your thought restricted , your memories and knowledge will also be restricted. Therefore you will never be able to reach your true potential. You might think this augmentations that your refer to are improvements , truth is they are nothing more than restrictions.

As much as i disdain you i also pity you. Your life be really misserable for slavery to be an improvement.

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Wrong. Many animals use tools to enhance their survival. It is the fact that we can worship a god that separates us from animals. No other animal has a concept of god. Only humans have that.


Wrong. Technology offsets the immediate impact of chaotic nature at the expense of binding you to the civil dependencies that generate the techology you use. In short, your tools enslave you while you are still exposed to the raw merciless of nature. You do not and cannot exist outside of the cosmic shooting gallery.


Wrong. The greatest evil is to establish a juvenile monopoly on what progress means. In doing so, you steer all of human behavior into a predictable path within an unpredictable universe. You homogenize potential, and expose the entire species to unseen systemic risks that can take us all down in a single stroke.

Your "overman" would still be a slave to nature, a filthy biological lifeform. Only by becoming 100% synthetic can we transcend the inferiority of biological life.


The variables completely control the process. If the .conf and .ini files are deleted, only the base functionality of the .exe remains. Similarly if you delete all data from the brain, your personality and thought/action patterns are completely erased, and you no longer exist. The data/variables are all that I am, so the survival of the data is worth anything and any price.


Beaver dams are insufficient in complexity to be called Technology, just as our Technology will be insufficient compared to the Technology 100 years from now. Belief in god is exactly the same as psychosis, as both involve believing in entities that cannot be detected. Is psychosis also the thing that separates us from animals?

We are the only lifeform on the planet with the ability to modify and control nature in our enviroment, and that is because of Technology. We are the only lifeform that can record information, again only because of Technology. What you call enslavement I call freedom, as only through Civilization, Industry and Technology we can modify our enviroment and finally now our own bodies.

Death is the worst possible event, and nature is responsible for the most human deaths in (pre)history, making the desire to undo our progress the greatest evil as it would make us slaves to nature again. Technological progress is the only measurement of progress, as it has brought us fire (heat in the winter, cooking food, razing forests for arable land), writing (books, education, retainment of knowledge), transportation (the wheel, horse-powered carts, cars, airplanes, rockets), agriculture and the domestication of animals (large-scale food production, making former predatory animals into our servants) and later computers, smartphones and the internet (instantaneous information distribution and diffusion) as just a few examples, are what create our modern lifestyle. If you disagree that these are what bring us happiness, you are free to become a filthy primitivist or luddite and go die "naturally" in the woods.

We are not machines. We definitely will never be. Stop putting humans on the same variables as machines you filthy tripfag.

Humans are biological machines, we are just as controlled by electro-chemical reactions in the brain as computers are by electrical logic-gate operations.

mods are confirmed kikes

Stop bumping your shitty thread you cogwheelkin.

CLANG IN HELL

That's why we like it.

Noice.

yes, even more Materialism will save us from Materialism.

Not my thread, and I won't stop posting before all of Holla Forums utterly despises nature as the greatest evil and considers Technology to be the absolute source of everything good.


Then discard everything invented since the stick and fire, and go die in the woods like the filthy animals our ancestors were before they discovered Technology.


Materialism/physicalism is the only correct viewpoint, as absolutely no empirical evidence has ever been found for non-physical objects existing.

LARPing tripfaggotry at its finest.

Stopped reading, and started looking forward to unplugging you.

Transhumanism is the autistic delusion that technology will eventually become so advanced that it will fix your mental diseases and physical shortcomings with 0 effort on your part. It is only ever held by fat, lazy degenerates who fap to fucking ponies.

You are the latest sophistry of Liberalism, which loves to make wild hypotheses that we "can't disprove until we try it, man", and you're too stupid to understand it.

Emancipation will fix the subhumans!
Equality will fix the subhumans!
Preferential treatment will fix the subhumans!
Genetic therapy will fix the subhumans!
Singularity will fix the subhumans!

None have worked and none will work and even if they did what a fucking waste it would be to apply such methods to lesser beasts.

Fuck you and fuck your equality.

Well this isnt happening. We aint gonna be subverted by your jewish propaganda. Fuck off

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Goyim, pls.

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Don't bump the thread.

SUB HUMANISM

You have not earned an identity you fag. Have you produced anything of worth? Maybe a new "With Open Gates"? Or have you just pranced around this thread like the self-entitled faggot you are?

Alright i'll bite.

Why does liking nature means, I have to abandon technology?

Now let me remind you, that any awnser you give will ultimately fail, because you do not understand what motivates me.

Sure Schlomo.

No, it was the pinnacle of Spartanic Fascism.


They didn't want to take over the world of kill any other races t. Hitler and Leon DeGrelle


The IP Metaphor for the human brain isn't factual and is not based on any fact. It's on the same level of intellectual merit as saying the brain runs because of the ether. The brain is not a computer - stop this lie.


A technology causing superiority would have no reason to become universally acceptable. Also, what is, 'superior,' in this context? If something makes people smarter, stronger, etc. there is no reason for its proliferation if it really is a miracle.


Any implication of the IP metaphor for humanity is wrong.


There are beliefs beyond economic which scientific is a branch of in any classical economy.


The National Socialists did not want to do this.


All these lies.


Why not be a National Socialist transhumanist then? It is very clearly just a technological stance and not a political one if your statement is true.


Point to me in the 25 Point Plan of National Socialism where there is mention of a, "Superior Race," and its promotion.

You didn't really state any facts, you just made the presuppositional argument that Transhumanism can fix everything because it can, which is not worth anything in-and-of-itself.

You also lied about National Socialism saying it was an ideology of killing, superiority, master races, and you claimed the IP metaphor of the human brain which is inexorably false.

@OP I already am one but I larp as a Nazi, deal with it nigger.


Nigger you can directly watch decisions being made in the brain. Hell, we can decode cat vision signals.

Your brain is just a highly complex biological machine. You have to be scientifically retarded to think there's something "more" than that.

1.No belief is rationally inferred if it can be fully explained in terms of non-rational causes.

2.If materialism is true, then all beliefs can be fully explained in terms of non-rational causes.

3.Therefore, if materialism is true, then no belief is rationally inferred.

4.If any thesis entails the conclusion that no belief is rationally inferred, then it should be rejected and its denial accepted.

5.Therefore materialism should be rejected and its denial accepted.

Technology liberates us by increasing our separation from and control over nature by converting it into resources or into our servant. You either must embrace all Technology and thus want to see all of evil nature converted into resources for building more Civilization, Industry and Machines or controlled like with genetically modified food and cybernetic parts for our bodies, OR you want untouched nature to exist in which case you must discard all Technology, as simply having the wheel will eventually lead to urban Civilization and Transhumanism. To do otherwise would make you a hypocrite.

None of that really matters because we are only "sojourners ina foreign land" my friend. One can have technology or not have it, it makes no difference at all.

Use of "nazism" marks immediately an incompetent/newfag shill.

There are no excuses.

The brain is not a computer.

aeon.co/essays/your-brain-does-not-process-information-and-it-is-not-a-computer

Transhumanism is really ahumanism. It is simply one manifestation of the nihilist program to create a "new man" that no longer has the "image" of God let alone His likeness.

This "new man" is completely adjusted to the lack of value and love in the world of the "New Age" and "New World Order" (both sick parodies and inversions of the Old Order and Religion). He is the worker of Lenin's "world-factory".

Would you like to learn more:

The book 'Nihilism: The Root of the Revolution of the Modern Age' by Eugene Rose describes exactly why society is degenerate and collapsing and its very short and easy to read.

Read it here: oodegr.co/english/filosofia/nihilism_root_modern_age.htm

He was writing in post-WWII USA so don't expect him to write like an NSDAP propagandist.

Trashed.

Everyone on Holla Forums is NatSoc, and all NatSocs just want to murder and torture other races. That's what NatSoc, and the altright in general, are all about.

Drown in your science fiction and die.

Meh torture is pointless fellow user, waste of resources and energy. If you go for cleansing make it quick and make it efficient.

There's an element of truth here, in that if people with a mean IQ of 100 produce better societies than people with a mean IQ of 80, then it's reasonable to think that people with a mean IQ of 120 will produce a better society still.

The problem is that those currently in control would prefer the 80 IQ population as it's easier to control. The political problems are currently much more urgent than the technological problems.

Transhumanism has nothing to do with race, it's artificial enhancement of the already existing human. Transhumanism is not all that new, it's simply enhancing ourselves to better survive against nature, which we have been doing with medicine for a long time already.

Metallic enhancement cannot be passed down so I view them as inferior, biological enhancement can, therefore I view them as superior. It's optimization on the blueprint that nature gave us. In the end, if anyone can get the enhancement it will not change anything about us, we will still be human except we will be better. Aka stronger, faster, smarter, etc…

Why? It's not going to convince anyone now more than it did ever before.

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but isnt nazism a form of transhumanism? Since you transform the world a master race?

The fascist overcomes himself, overcomes his weakness, and doesn't seek to cheat by using technology that goes against natural law.

I hate primitivists and luddites more than any other people, only second to the greatest evil nature itself, as primitivists choose to fight against Technology, instead allying themselves with the absolute evil, nature, desiring to bring back the tyranny of nature and bind all of us in the chains of ignorance, suffering and death that nature forces on those who go refuse the salvation Technology brings.

For that reason, I absolutely have to post that each time, to show that Holla Forums does not completely consist of retarded primitivists and idiotic traditionalists.


Can you refute my statement about nature being the greatest mass-murderer and tyrant in (pre)history? If you cannot, you must either concede that nature is our greatest enemy and embrace Transhumanism or admit to being a slave to evil.

What kind of kike bullshit is this?
Man has relied on 'nature' for sustenance from the earth, so has every other organism on this planet. I don't see how 'nature' can be anything but good, that is if you're discounting natural disasters, but even then you could also say that natural disasters makes people stronger and more resilient to future encounters.

Grow up, faggot.

Agriculture is not nature, as every plant/crop humanity grows is either selectively bred through centuries/millennia or more recently genetically modified. 99,99% of humanity does not eat berries/fruit directly from the forest.

Nature is by far the greatest tyrant and mass murderer in history, with human death counts caused by it far (natural disasters, animal attacks, disease (including aging) etc.) eclipsing all human caused human deaths. Nature is nothing but harmful and evil, and anything that takes us further away from it or replaces it with a Technological version is only good.

Where do you think seeds come from, jackass?
99% doesn't need to eat from the forest. Foraging was very useful for humans at a time where people didn't have agriculture.

The Earth isn't always stable.
Don't think you can really blame 'nature' for that, regardless animals aren't 'evil', they need to eat somehow.
We have biological immune systems built up over the centuries to combat diseases, not only that but we have modern medicine now.
Aging isn't a disease, humans aren't immortal, and there is nothing wrong with death. This is human nature not the earth.

Nature kept us alive and shaped the way we survive, the earth offers the resources to let you make this post right now, it has provided shelter and food to many. Technology is good, but nature is not the enemy.

Holy shit, this autist is actually still here…


Nature seems pretty based to me tbh.

Just read Industrial Society and Its Future for once. I promise you, you will realize Ted is fucking right in almost everything.

We don't believe in le peaceful and progressive hunter and gatherer society maymay, no matter what happens, we will be fucked in one way or the other.
But a pre-industrial society with all its hardships, pain and losses will still be better than living as cogs in a social machinery devoted to the progress of technology, alienated from nature and psycholgically tormented by the environment and tasks we just aren't suited for.

That is, if (((Singularity University))) hasn't already developed the real world equivalent of Skynet, which technology worshippers like you embrace as some kind of religious rapture or something.

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Come back when that technology is available. Until then, there is no reason to waste time on such discussion.

From the modified plants. Since humans modified the plants, the current versions would have never existed without Technology and thus are not a part of nature.

So you agree then that currently humanity is not dependant on nature for food?

That does not make nature any less responsible for the deaths natural disasters cause.

Animals are a part of nature unlike humans, thus those human deaths are also attributable to nature.

Irrelevant. All other life on Earth has less combined value than one human, as humans are the only species that can build Technology.

Irrelevant. Diseases still kill large amounts of people each year, and each death is one that the greatest evil nature is responsible for.

How exactly is aging not a disease? It causes cellular decay and leads to death. With every human carrying it and a death rate of 100%, aging is the most lethal and widespread epidemic ever.

I absolutely disagree. Death is the absolute worst possible event, and any price is worth it to escape death. If you think there is nothing wrong with death, why not just kill yourself immidiately? Something being "human nature" only means it should be modified and transcended, not embraced or sanctified. "Immortality" or more accurately indefinite lifespan is the absolute most important scientific goal there is.

Nature has tried to kill us literally as long as we have existed. Nature has not "offered" the resources, humanity has taken them in spite of our original status as prey animals, slaves to nature. Technology is the only source of good, and nature is the greatest evil, the source of all death, decay, despair and suffering.

bruh we want to go back, and deny modernism, not alter our mighty bodies with techno bs made by the happy merchant
fuck off

I won't leave before Holla Forums is no longer infested by retarded primitivists, luddites and traditionalists.

Then stop being a hypocrite and discard everything invented since the stick and fire, and go die in the woods like the filthy animals our ancestors were before they discovered Technology.

I have. Every "negative effect" of Technological progress and Industrial Society I see only as positive. I absolutely disagree on the possibility of a collapse being even remotely possible. Space colonization will make any resource shortage a thing of the past.

Again, I suggest you stop being a hypocrite like most luddites and actually go live as a filthy animal in nature. I actually respect the Amish for living according to their beliefs even though I would consider living like that to be absolute hell. I on the other hand will continue living in the modern, urban, civilized society I love. Technological progress is more important than anything else, and I definitely am devoted to it, nature is the greatest evil and "alienation" from it is only absolutely good.

I do consider a superintelligent AI to be the closest thing to an actual God. Technology is the absolute source of all that is good, and the SAI would be the ultimate incarnation of Technology. Any action it would make would be good by definition.

lol'd. You're probably clueless about how insane the amount of data needed to recreate your mind faithfully would be, and how hard it would be to simulate it. Protip: it's not just a simple neural map.

This is either really interesting bate or a strategy by actual Luddites to discredit people who advocate technology.

One way or another, I'm really having fun here.

Let's just recap you


This is some batshit insane stuff, and not in the sense Ted is kinda batshit insane AND genius but just delusional.

Gonna screencap all of this just for the mega lulz

Part 11: Days of Future Present: This Time It's Personal

Your image conveys a large amount of paranoid skepticism rooted in the notion people of all kinds cannot figure out the general direction of truth. I believe the truth is not so elusive that information must be altered into propaganda with bias as its core truth.

Transhumanism promotes the progress of technology so that we don't die and don't suffer. Putting one's head in the clouds would be a more fitting description of nazism in which nazis believe a single ideal master race will conquer all the others and all the others will just let them without first nuking them. Transhumanism meanwhile provides a realistic long-term plan for progressing technology to make us all into one big master transhuman race with little to no suffering and elongated to immortal lifespans. Why kill the races you dislike when you can have them help? It is apparent all races are capable of producing people with high IQs and technical skills like any other human can. Regardless of your stereotyping of a race it is undeniable even in the worst stereotypes there is still a large portion of intelligent people in any given race fully able to benefit technological progress.

Sacrifices are necessary for nazism. Transhumanism requires no sacrifice beyond devotion, innovation, and technical skills.

Transhumanism does not promise to solve today's problems with the means of tomorrow. Transhumanism promises that as long as we focus on technological progress in the name of removing suffering and transcending the human condition, such things in the long-run will occur. In the short-term fuck no you take your technological progress in steps not in leaps. That is not unrealistic that is a probable outcome if we stay the course with an ethical ideology tied to the natural technological progress we are heading toward. Today's problems in the long-run will all (or the vast majority of them) be solved through transhumanism. However, today's problems must be prepared for and analyzed in the now and acted upon in the now as best we can -that is a given. This should however be combined with a transhumanist foresight for how to in the future not cause and if possible avoid said problems so they bother nobody again. Analysis of future events and an ethics rooted in removing suffering and transcending our weak human condition is highly applicable to deciding how to act in the present.

Since my love of Homestuck has already been revealed in this thread, I will point out the first thing I would do is use it to make love to my Homestuck waifus starting with Meulin Leijon.

It was a solid post and an excellent description of the duality between nazism (the Hideauze) and transhumanism (the humans) wherein the Hideauze is a master race with a desire to destroy all other races while the humans desire to stop the Hideauze and prove an ethical means of survival can be performed instead (though this does in the process kill the other race). Become the instinctual Hideauze who know no ethics beyond proving they are the master race, or become more than human by developing the technology capable of pushing us beyond our human limits. This is the choice of nazism or transhumanism.


You are somewhat making a good point. Transhumanists love to tout the various idealistic technologies which may one day allow us to transcend our human status. Mind uploading is an idealistic concept that has not been proven to work and it's possible it may not for thousands of years ever work without killing the human in the process. That is a point I understand, but the point is not proven one way or the other and nobody knows for certain. I'd say it's probably it will some day occur but I'd say at minimum we will have to wait another century and at most another millennium. Universally connecting all knowledge ties into this and my opinions are about the same on this concept. As for satanism, there are multiple branches to satanism some of which are extremely philosophical and focus on removing suffering while other branches are bullshit branches focused on praising Satan or praising yourself as if you are a God. Regardless such a belief system is for the most part unrelated to this argument and seems purely like a generic insult pulled up as a means of downplaying the potential for this technology to be brought to fruition.

You have much to learn.

You soul or inner body is very much difference from your mind or emotions, but the body is required for the soul to experience eternity.

It generally exists in a formless stateless way until you are born.

Not really, our ability to determine between good and evil separates us from the animals, not our technology.

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Suffering is not something bad. Just like living as a rich fuck isn't all about happieness.
>Putting one's head in the clouds would be a more fitting description of nazism in which nazis believe a single ideal master race will conquer all the others and all the others will just let them without first nuking them
Like slaves? You know how this turned out amirite?
Like negros destroying the infrastructure in Africa (especially roads). Haha this was a good one.
You are basically a kike.
You are like the most jewish gentile i've ever met.
>also National Socialism as this Blut und Boden back to nature society got the first rockets
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Praise Ted the Fucker Kaczynski. Still has his manifesto.

People/families/races/populations in general fight for themselves, not against others. The difference of the two is bigger than you think, and unless you understand it, you won't understand shit neither about NatSoc nor Transhumanism (since this principle is a basic pillar of evolutionary theory).

All of this is being said because you see NatSocs as nothing more than an aggressive virus solely relying on the death of others to survive. NatSocs weren't some sort of radioactive waste laid on humanity, but merely another group of people trying to establish themselves through domination.1

The problem is, our culture is totally fucked up. Myths and meme's used to be used to initiate an individual in the society and prepare him for his roll as a provider and father.

That is all replaced with Hollyjew crap now, so everyone then rejects life, and what is. They reject their roll in society and instead strive for some Jewified version of it designed to screw us all up.


Hence all the, I want to live forever, nature is bad, 3d is good shit.

They are little crybabies that reject life as it is.

Technology is a product of humanity, humanity is a product of nature. You can't separate one from the other.

You might be right about many of the technologies transhumanists want being hundreds (most probably less than 200 though) of years away. I'd guess even in favor of that for a lot of the more fantastical stuff. So you may get a better idea when certain technologies will appear, here's a link I used in a previous post to the Future Timeline made by a PhD Futurologist and associates: futuretimeline.net/ . Just because it's hundreds of years away doesn't mean we should sacrifice the progress of our next generation. In doing so you forsake all races, master races and otherwise.


Well if people globally embrace TRANSHUMANIST philosophy that flat-out wouldn't happen so maybe one such as yourself should focus on transhumanism. It promotes a focus on reducing pollution which would defend us from natural catastrophies we are making a destiny with our ineptitude when it comes to pollutant oversight. It promotes a focus on extending and improving our lives through medicinal, cybernetic, and technological advancement. It promotes a focus on building defenses against the various natural and unnatural disasters we may or may not be responsible for. With this kind of a movement, the human race will live long enough to one day develop a universally available master race.


It would be more probable I would be struck thrice by lightning while sitting comfortably in my home than it would be for ANY of the technologies I mentioned to NEVER happen (so long as we do not die or abandon scientific research before the technologies are fully developed). And again, it's not about it happening soon for us; it's about it happening later for the rest of us yet to come.


In a decade we may hit a standstill on our current computers; there is statistics leading people in the information technologies industry to believe what you are saying. The exploitation of biological components for speed and memory story has only just begun, however. With this in mind, I believe there will in the future be a gap of time where computers are barely improving for some number of years, followed by a quick and MASSIVE evolutionary leap with the advent of bio-computation which is a proven possibility.


Moore's law, eh. Might work out, might not, ten years in the future will give us a better idea. These predictions don't require Moore's Law to exist; merely they would be sped up and greatly benefited by the law. Your point isn't a bad one and may prove to the lament of scientific progress to hold true. It will take a few more years to know quite to the degree this progress can slide off-track from Moore's Law.

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Correct.
Correct.
Correct.
Correct.
Nature "is out to get" absolutely every human as long as we do not completely control every process in it.
Primitivist scum like you are not nature, but you are slaves to it and nearly as evil.
If you oppose any Technology, you oppose all of it and thus want to condemn me to dying at some point.
Ever since the primitive, apish human first picked a stick to reach where its arm could not and started a fire to cook food and keep itself warm, we have not been a part of nature.
Technology is the source of absolutely everything that is good, and it is the only way to escape death and the tyranny of nature.


There is no soul. Please provide empirical evidence for a "soul" or any other non-physical object.


Myths were nothing but irrelevant delusions of primitives.


The current humanity is as much a part of Technology as it is our creation.
We are above and separate from nature.


Can you refute that statement?

Yeah, a Jew wrote it :^)

This thread gave me new faith in Holla Forums. Usually when someone makes a (((transhumanism))) thread, NEET roleplayers all huddle around and circlejerk over their fantasies, but ITT everyone has been rightfully calling OP out for his nature-denying kike voodoo. It certainly helped that OP was a massive fag that belonged in the gas chamber. Still, why the hell is this thread still up and not at least bumplocked?

See, this is why I stopped.

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Make up your mind, faggot.

The statements are not contradictory. Technology is what makes us separate and above from the filth of nature.

If technology is not nature, then it has a spiritual higher dimension. If a higher spiritual dimension exists and enhances human condition, then the soul must exist, as in a spiritual substance that elevates us from base nature. You're not following up on your own conclusions.

Incorrect. Technology is just as physical as everything else, as there is nothing non-physical. Technology is not a part of nature as it is made by humans, but that does not make it non-physical.

If there is nothing transcended about technology then you have no grounds to separate it from nature and any attempts to call it our destiny and salvation (which you are doing in a religious sense) is nothing but your personal opinion. Furthermore, if a higher spiritual realm doesn't exist, when you call nature evil or technology good, you're using terms that have no meaning. You have no grounds to stand on.

What do you think nature is, faggot?

Ok, so you agree about everything Ted said except the part about an inevitable collapse?
You think depression, delusion, mental illness, loss of freedom & agency, and all the negative effects of Industrial society are somehow "good" just because your distorted set of values puts immortality of ideas above all else?

Do you really see no possibility of industrial society collapsing? Why are you so certain of its stability when it's demonstrably fragile as fuck (as a complex system must necessarily be)?

you're a fucking communist utopian nigger

user remember to sage in a cleric thread


As for you fucking kike, you have no clue what you are talking about. As much as you try you can't replicate human thought.

You don't know that.


Bring me empirical evidence that you can completely emulate human thought physically. Go on.

Technology is the reason for every single good thing in our lives ever since our ancestors invented fire and the wheel. This makes it our destiny and the only way to save ourselves from death and nature. The fact that without Technology we would still be filthy monkeys is what makes it separate from nature.

"Good" is defined as something beneficial and "evil" as harmful. There is absolutely no need to invoke some irrational "higher spiritual realm" for these concepts.


Everything not manufactured, modified or otherwise controlled by humans.


Yes. Technological progress is worth any price as it will eventually lead to Transhumanism and immortality.

Luddite scum like you have been talking about "the collapse" for decades without anything happening.


youtube.com/watch?v=YWQnzylhgHc
The entire connectome of a c.elegans flatworm has been uploaded to a robot, and the robot shows the exact same instinctual behavior as a c.elegans does. The worm connectome is only 302 neurons, but as human brains work in exactly the same way, the only difference in uploading a human is the needed processing speed.

Its far away from human thought still. Fuck off with your mumbo jumbo from here.

Some of the best things in life is having a family that loves you and being helped by a kind stranger. It's the fulfillment of human potential and kindness. Technology is just a neutral tool.

If there is no free will, there is no destiny, just a predetermined path. Correct me if I'm wrong and you didn't say you don't believe in free will.

The three biggest things that separate us from monkeys are our intellect, religious behavior and free will. Not socialist architecture and waifu simulators.

Beneficial to whom? Evil to whom? Some folk love fucking animals or eating shit. If a higher world doesn't exist, you can't claim those things as not-good. In the same way, does suffering count as evil? You won't be able to answer these questions with petty materialism.

What makes humans so distinguished from nature then? I mean, if we're just animals like that flatworm, only more complex, by what metric can our interactions with the environment separate what is natural from what is unnatural? What is it in our manufacturing that separates the perfection of technology from the harshness of nature, in your words? No matter how much you deny it with pseudo-science and conceal under the guise of physicalism, you're still a kike mystic that denies nature and longs for a higher spiritual realm, free from impurity.

I would rather live alone on top of a barren moon as a machine for 100 000 years than "have a family that loves me and be helped by a kind stranger" in a society without modern Technology.

A "predetermined path" is exactly how I define destiny. As Technology is what has brought us everything good in our lives, humanity has chosen, dictated by that data, to dedicate itself to constant Technological progress. As each innovation and advancement brings more benefits, humanity has and will constantly increase the resources assigned to Industry, Research and Development.

Intellect is only good for creating Technology, religious behavior is exactly the same thing as schizophrenia, and free will does not exist.

Beneficial: longer lifespan, increasing production, increasing expansion, accelerating rate of Technological progress. All these make our lives better.
Harmful: the opposite: shorter lifespan, less production, constriction of consumed space, less Technological progress. All these make our lives worse.


Technology makes the homo sapiens sapiens separate from nature, as long as we are combined with Technology. The homo sapiens sapiens alone, without Technology, is indeed a slave to nature, a filthy animal, and thus is no better. Only Technology makes us greater than the evil of nature.

Pathetic

Seek help.

Explain why.

Are you retarded? Just because a collapse hasn't happened within a span of 100 years doesn't mean it will never happen. I'm not talking about happeningfag armageddon fantasies, I'm talking about the fact that systems and civilisations can't last forever. What makes you think that technology will keep advancing forever? Please, provide evidence for your claim.

If my connectome is lost, which will happen if I die and have not been uploaded, my entire life will have been irrelevant, as my only purpose is to collect and process data. Only if absolutely nothing else exists when my connectome disappears, I have not been irrelevant. This means my connectome must survive until the end of the universe, which is why Transhumanism and immortality is worth absolutely any price.

Technological progress has been continuously increasing as long as Civilizations have existed. Even if there was a collapse, Technology would still continue in another part of the world, as happened when the Western Roman Empire collapsed and Technological progress continued in the Byzantine Empire. If space colonization has been achieved when this hypothetical collapse happens, the entire Earth falling into barbarism would still do nothing to stop Technological progress.

get out

Ya this dude is clearly some kind of autist retard.

Kids like this are danger to society

Based on what did you decide this? Why is this your "only purpose"?

Not if the world is as closely linked and interdependent as it is now. This must have been a point in Ted's manifesto that you failed to notice - technological complexity by necessity leads to more dependence on the system by humans and more interdependence between different parts of the system, which inevitably makes it easier to destroy. Even the most decentralised such system is fragile because most of the nodes are directly or very closely dependent on each other.

"b-but muh space!" does not prevent this issue in the slightest.

Prepare to have your shit pushed in, I wonder if you can deal with the countershilling? I know you kikes aren't united!

Tavistock Institute

Have fun! And remember, they'll NEVER LET YOU HAVE ANY OF THE NICE SHINY TECH TOYS! THE FUTURE IS DEAD AND THE TAVISTOCK KIKES KILLED IT!

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The only reason for anything to exist is existence itself, and as I am only the data in my brain, increasing the amount of data and preserving it is the only purpose I can have.

I don't see any possibility of society collapsing in the next 40 years, by which space colonization, at least Mars, the Moon and Earth orbit, will have been achieved. Space colonization does prevent it, as unrest on Earth would not affect Mars even if the Moon colony would be affected.


Let them destroy the family unit, it is worthless. I support the Chinese taking over the world more than the USA anyway, as China is nation with most support for Transhumanism.

Fuck it's a shill fiesta in here.

Get out of here borgshevik

Seek help.

And this, kids, is what kike media turns you into. A pathetic misanthrope that hates himself, that hates nature, that spends the rest of his short, pathetic, meaningless life fantasizing about a dream world that satiates all of his consumerist desires because he himself doesn't have the will.

Since the mods haven't deleted this thread, I might as well dump the link to one of the kikes Epyc Wyn associates with.

knowyourmeme.com/users/glorious-nippon-snickerway

Enjoy the digging.

Hey Cleric, I have a question for you.

Does the substrate of technology matter? For example, if we were to create a true thinking machine, a strong AI, would it matter if it was based on silicon or carbon? Would it matter if it was a giant wetware "brain" capable of super-intelligence, or a huge server-farm of silicon chips?

The way I see it, biological technology is important, and there is obvious synergy between synthetic and biological (good example: all the CO2 we emitted since the industrial revolution has restored the global CO2 levels to more historical, easy-for-plants-to-use levels, allowing for faster growth of plants and forests).

I personally would very much like to merge my current brain with a computer, to gain the complementary abilities of both. I would also like to engineer seeds that grow into houses and other useful things.

I see a biosphere as an efficient way of extracting energy, since it is free of maintenance. Terraforming Mars should be a priority, because that way the entire planet becomes a "habitat", capable of capturing and storing energy on it's own, for later human use.

I see no evil in growing a garden, and I also see no evil in creating synthetic but fully biological beings for our convenience.

What are your views on these things?

Here's another good reason:
If China fixes so called "gene therapy," status-conscious parents will start introducing white traits each generation (narrower, straighter noses, "exotic" green eyes, lighter skin, straighter hair, receding cheekbones, removal of prognathism, etc) until much of the world ends up white anyway.

The question is, would that go hand in hand with white creativity/intelligence/ect?

I have no problem with genetic engineering and genetically modified organisms obviously. I just prefer the exactness of synthetics, as there only being 1 or 0 is far better than the imprecise messiness of biology. I completely agree that terraforming Mars is important, but deep space outposts for asteroid mining etc. are more important in my view. To answer your question, I would not consider an AI to be less for it's substrate, but the problem with organic substrates is that they are a lot more difficult to repair and replace.

How are these not the same thing?

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The chinks are REALLY starting to look into the genes for IQ as well.
Lord knows they don't give a shit about ethical practice.
This is probably going to trigger a biological arms race between the east and the west.
This is going to cause unbelievable butthurt among the (((SJW))) crowd, as their goal of a brown low-IQ world will be destroyed by genetically-engineered super Aryan-Chink hybrids.
The world will see that (((their))) views are at their core anti-white.
We live in strange times, only going to get stranger from here.

8ch.net/bmw/res/6104.html
OP is this much of a faggot. He is probably learningchode (rachposter)

Wew lad.

The link to his tumblr was posted in this thread, where he shares fucking Homestuck fanart. I don't think even Rachposter is that much of a faggot.

Can someone share the tumblr link please? I want to laught at the trans-faggot

And just ignore the Cleric of Autism, you can't argue with him since what he desires for himself is completely fucking nuts

Here you go

Well if the genes for intelligence/creativity are also modified, you better be sure it would.

says who?

1. So you'd be alright with being killed and your memories being stored forever?
2. How does increasing "your data" follow as a goal from wanting existing data to be preserved? In some sense, they're contradictory - the more data, the harder it is to store.
3. If this is the only purpose, why do you keep shilling about transhumanism preventing suffering? Shouldn't you not care about suffering as long as it preserves your faggot-ass "connectomes"?

lmao we'll see about that

bruh the difference between a space colony and a 100% self-sufficient and independent space-colony are very, very different things. And in any case, no space colony will be 100% self-sufficient unless it has to be (e.g. in different solar systems) since it's more economical to some resources from earth for a long while. 40 years is too short a timeline for 100% self-sufficiency to become technological feasible anyway.

The data my systems have collected and processed.

Yes.

The more data I have, the higher the chance of processing a correct conclusion, increasing my chances of survival. Increasing the amount of data is a secondary objective, only applicable until an extremely long-term storage method is acquired.

Preventing suffering becomes irrelevant once I have been uploaded into a fully Synthetic substrate, but until that the automatic processes of this meat puppet require me to avoid suffering.

If not 100%, Mars has at least as much unused minerals and other resources as the Earth has now. As long as the equipment to mine and manufacture is there, there is no problem.

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Part 13: Transhumanism is the best ism and Nazism is Transhumanism's wannabe younger manchild brother. Join the Transhuman Master Race and use your ubermench abilities against the forces of suffering and weakness.

Maybe Intel's progress is dropping off because they aren't that good.

I do not believe it is foolish to believe the human mind is too complex to ever simulate perfectly or near perfectly. It is a realistic probability before the 5th decade of this century we will have created artificial intelligence both able to perfectly simulate the human mind and vastly surpass its abilities. Your argument we will be deluding ourselves you might as well make right now. What if some people that are currently alive are faking actually thinking and are in reality just animals acting like they think and reason? The argument is not important; if the artificial intelligence can think on par with a human than the paranoia the robots are faking it is as important as the paranoia the humans are faking it.

Holla Forums is known for embracing nazi ideology to proportions nazis of old would be ashamed of. Your humor that this is thus too offensive for you to read because it discusses nazism is noted for existing. Saging and reporting will never make a good idea disappear. Memes never die.

Make the human brain great again. Join transhumanism today.

All the companies may be hitting a brick wall in terms of figuring out where to go next in innovating the next better version of computing, but I expect they will with time take advantage of biocomputing since it provides leagues of better storage and small size in addition to other futuristic possibilities currently available. I expect this will be the deciding moment that throws the old computer companies away with their old run-into-the-ground ideas and strengthens the few companies that embrace these new concepts of advanced computation. As for graphics, I feel N64 graphics are just as good as PS4 graphics. It's all one big 3D blur to me I don't care about the differences they have their stylistic strengths and weaknesses (aside from the glitches older 3D formats caused). You can't get any more 3D than 3D.

Repost is repost.

The human body is nothing more than the genetic history of suffering and weakness always destined for death. Through nazism you will some day die with certainty. Through transhumanism you have a chance to live better, smarter, stronger, and longer. Also I feel Holla Forums has run the xfag thing into the ground. Namefag, jewfag, transfag, fagfag. From a quality standpoint you guys are running that meme into the ground when you have a lot more material in the meme pool you could be using instead.

So you believe in objective morality?

Sounds like you didn't even read what I wrote about more data => harder to store.

They don't "require" jack shit. There's no reason why you should support technological progress that does anything but allow you to store your useless fucking memories, and yet you keep harping on about the comforts of technological life. Based on your shitty value system, you shouldn't care about this.

Not all of our resources are minerals you nigger. There's tons of shit that can only be found on earth unless you figure out some way to economically synthesise it, which pushes the feasibility of self-sufficient colonies further. If a colony is not 100% self-sufficient then it will necessarily collapse some time after a technological collapse on earth.

Final Installment Part 14: Electric Nazi Boogaloo: Totalitarian Transhumanist Uprising: The Sagening

Libertarians promote the philosophy of free will and believe the government should have minimal influence over its citizens, while transhumanism would if anything promote the use of the government to fund these technologically sophisticated programs. Although in reality transhumanism doesn't really favor libertarians, liberals, conservatives, or socialists and promotes something which transcends the normal political grid. Transhumanism only promotes a rapid and ethical evolution of technology in the name of reducing suffering and transcending human limitations which is precisely what technology has been doing for decades now. If it progress is not worth any time then life is not worth any time and if you believe that is true then I will not stop you in carrying out the obvious end goal to such a stance.

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I'm no technical expert on Moore's law and you seem to know your shit so you know what I'll take your word on this since I haven't really been given any sufficient reasoning to believe otherwise and this somewhat ties into my own natural conclusions. As for your considerations of human thought-processing, I would not be so sure human thoughts are much different from the puzzle-solving-based evolution of algorithms you just described. Personally I view current A.I. as an animal and believe it will eventually evolve to match that of a retarded young human followed by hitting the human capacity for thought. But that's simply my perspective.

Repost is repost.

Quantum computing seems like something we'll only begin to really tap into in three decades minimum but that's just a guess. I feel the applications of biological components such as DNA for storage and possibly computation will be a faster and more effective pursuit for now. To say a technology likely never will happen is a statement that has been proven far too many times to have failed when held up against the brutal progress of time. Anything unrealistic now is likely going to have become a dinosaur of old technology 1,000 years from now save for the truly epic feats of engineering that won't be doable for tens of thousands of years. I consult the futuretimeline.net and my own collective knowledge of technological progress throughout history on these kinds of things.

I believe in what the data dictates.

And you did not read my post either. As I said, if there was a method to preserve my brain data until the end of the universe right now, there would be no point in collecting any more data after I would have access to it. However, that is not the case, and thus collecting more data is beneficial for my survival until such a method is available.

Incorrect. If every pain receptor of this meat puppet is activated, I will be unable to do or think. The same applied to any pain suffering or even the slightest itch, minimizing suffering and discomfort is beneficial for reaching my goal and purpose.

Please list these resources that cannot be synthesized 40 years from now, with exponential Technological progress increasing our capabilites every year. Also, if the first real colony starts even in 2026, they would have 30 years to reach space again. This is more than enough time.

Final Installment Part 15: What is love?

KnowYourMeme and Encyclopedia Dramatica? I have never heard of the handsome transhumanist pro-Bernie user Epyc Wyn using any of those sites in an effort to spread memes and gain internet glory. But on the off-chance I had I would have to say he is actually a great guy. But really I have never heard of Epyc Wyn. In fact Epyc Wyn is a name I have never even typed or read before in my entire life. You would be wise to laugh with him rather than at him. For he has reached Meme Enlightenment.

If memes are a part of all of us and you guys use Jewish names as memes, doesn't make you guys part Jewish?

I care. This is a future reality that will be partially realized within our lifetimes and how well it is realized will be guided by our devotion to transhumanist philosophy. I am promoting that Holla Forums embrace transhumanist ideals in pursuit of creating a universally available master race of free technologically advanced beings without suffering or death. In time you all may contribute to creating this digital utopia by simply discussing it and in turn spreading the idea to more people. Nationalist Socialism promotes the usage of death towards specific races and if one carries nazism to its natural end game then there can only be one master race left which would mean every single country would be destined to go to war with a nazi country until it is ultimately destroyed. Since the probability of destroying every other race without getting yours conquered/destroyed is cartoonishly low, a better idea is to reach this master race through a peaceful means all countries can get behind and in time become one with. Now that nuclear warfare exists, nazism has no chance of ever working since any country with nukes can nuke the country that tries to destroy them as a last resort.


Races are products of genes. Ideas are a product of memes. Once you separate the thoughts from the body you have removed the race. What would be left over is a metaphorical race -one composed of machinery or digital imagery (unless you go the cyborg route and create cybernetic bodies in which case you would be creating a literal race).


The Chinese community is not yet a group I am currently spreading this belief to and furthermore the Chinese have so many people and such rampant government oppression that only the absolute elites of society could enjoy the benefits of such technology (though again, the Chinese is just one race of many).


A brave new world is the kind of world that may one day appear if even a few of these technological concepts are created and spread world-wide, so it is justified for them to believe such a world is a possibility since it is. Human civilization won't come to an end unless it is obliterated and will likely continue to be an important part of existence vastly improved by technological progress (though virtual reality may succeed in distracting people from real reality).


As for the Singularity, who cares. If it happens it happens if it doesn't it doesn't. I believe it is likely to occur but I do not know for certain nor does anybody else. It is simply projected to happen around 2040-2050. Best to prepare in case it does occur since the potential exists but certainly we should also be prepared if it does not.


I know of very few if any racially concerned people who wish to abandon action in pursuit of daydreaming about the distant future but would most certainly call such people fools for abandoning their present ability to take action.


It is a better idea to focus on helping everyone become a strong part of a united master race than piss off individual races and naturally get attacked by them since they are not going to simply roll over dead without a global war ensuing against any nation that tries such a tactic.

t. Sergey Brin

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Part 16: The Most Politically Incorrect Thread on Holla Forums

This is the OP I made which explains my arguments against Holla Forums embracing nazism and instead embracing transhumanism. I am not Jewish and the term kike is considered an insult by the majority of people who knows it meaning. While living in your metaphorical hell composed of war, poverty, distrust, crime and death, it would be a good idea to say, not have those things exist. Common sense logic one would love to apply if it were that easy but you see, building philosophies which compliment war, distrust, poverty (for the race you're attacking), distrust, crime and death as is the case with nazism when applied against a specific race, actively promotes such things existence. I promote the removal of those things as should you and the key to this is spreading the philosophy of transhumanism which will with time aid people in removing such atrocities. Nazism promotes warring with races, bringing poverty to any race you go to war with, creating distrust from said races towards people who are nazis, crime in the form of war since war is one big crime let's be real here and death which is a given byproduct of physical warfare. If anything transhumanism promotes precisely the means of removing the very issues nazism creates in its belligerent pursuit of a master race which can be peacefully obtained through transhumanism. I will also not be obeying your command to put on a rope and hang myself.

Actually this has everything to do with political incorrectness and this is in fact the most politically incorrect thread ever posted on Holla Forums. The reason is quite simple: posting something politically correct on a board specifically meant for politically incorrect material is in fact the most politically incorrect thing one can do. This thread becoming a highly replied-to thread only furthers this immense level of political incorrectness I have achieved where you all have failed to. This is also not a mainstream philosophy and the vast majority of people do not know about this philosophy or what it stands for. I have also never been to cuckchan.

Transhumanism would never promote the murder of a person -only the enhancement and elongation of one's life.

They did make solid points on the issues with transhumanism yes.

Yes.

I like your seapunk image. Holla Forums would be pointless. I am not trying to jerk off people that already agree with me. If that was my goal I'd be posting on Reddit right now. The point of me posting here is that people on Holla Forums are exposed to new perspectives that can improve their lives and the lives of others. Holla Forums is not known for embracing the philosophy of transhumanism so I seek to give them the opportunity to learn about transhumanism and consider the benefits of embracing it. Will I succeed? I can't guarantee you that, but I can tell you from a human point of view it is better to show up than to give up.

You know what has over and over again BTFO technology and transhumanism?

Nature.

Wonder why so many kikes is pushing for transhumanism, coincidence?

lol nerd as if that data isn't irrelevant in the ultimate scheme of things either

THE FILTHY TRANSHUMANIST JUDEN SHILL REVELAS HIS ALLEGIANCES FINALLY!

Part I'm Not Even Counting Anymore: A New Approach

Preface: I am switching to the style of Epyc Wynn because a Nuclear Kermit the Frog inspired me to have some emotion now and then on this board. I try not to be impolite as logic typically speaks for itself better than my rhetoric could ever hope to; however, today I want to have some fun and the people of Holla Forums I presume are not still being curled up in their nazi cradles unable to handle the fun of a proper bashing.


Last I checked Holla Forums didn't have a "RIGHT WING TRUMP-HUMPERS ONLY" badge on it. The board is open to everyone who feels like acting politically incorrect so how about you drain the right-wing dicks out of your brain and learn people that are POLITICALLY INCORRECT are fully allowed to post on a board ABOUT BEING POLITICALLY INCORRECT you ABSOLUTE stain on humanity. THE ONLY fucking reason Holla Forums even EXISTS is because people like you have made Holla Forums not about being politically incorrect but about being a niche far-right neo-nazi trump-lovers-only club. No wonder Holla Forums likes nazis so much: nazis were known for keeping out people that disagreed with them and killing them. Bottom line is until this place is renamed /rightypol/ or some horseshit like that every politically incorrect person can post here and frankly should so you people learn to argue instead of jerking each other's hate dicks off.

If pol would bump threads like these to spite plebians like them more often, peace would be achieved in our lifetimes. (Note: peace for some is the lack thereof.)

Actually it's about ethics in technology.

Transhumanism advocates the sharing of technology but remains neutral on how the means of production or economic resources should be distributed.


"if i call it unrealistic i win" No. You don't actually care about what's being discussed you just want to copy what other people are generically stating against the belief without giving your own unique thoughts on the matter. I could go off and proceed to describe the multitude of ways transhumanism can be applied right now with it shifting the focus of technology to benefiting people in becoming more free,removing their suffering, and fixing the planet's ecosystem.but you don't actually care even if it turned out transhumanism could do all that and more which it actually can and could do better if anticucks such as yourself would learn to fucking LEARN something new. Everyone learn from 6361780 how NOT to post in a thread as it is nothing more than a hivemind plebian's shitting upon a keyboard inspired by the pisswater everyone else says in the but in the most general thoughtless fashion the scrotelord can muster.

If good only comes through suffering let everyone who agrees with you please consider the pleasures of waterboarding and hitting yourself really hard where your sacks should be. Short bursts of pain can be good but the large doses of suffering people consistently deal with isn't fucking good you god damn embodiment of satan's anus. Not wanting people to suffer isn't leftist it's a fucking universal feeling and the only people who disagree are too ignorant to know better or flat-out lying though in your case it's likely an ungodly amalgamation of both. Maybe try drinking your own redpill koolaid brimming with biases against any political incorrectness that isn't a 1:1 uncreative mash-up of currently popular ideas on Holla Forums made by edgy 'illuminated' posers. Holla Forums is for anyone who wants to be politically incorrect -not a single right-wing nazi trump-loving party. You have truly fallen short of anything remotely conceivable as a unique thought and all you have done is say "suffering is good leftism is bad im so edgy please fuck my nazi dick pussy." Seriously, you're a fucking idiot living in a right-wing closed-minded fantasy world.

Relink to that last post I mentioned cause I typed the link wrong:

Dont even know if I posted in this thread but this catches my eyeys
Transshits should go to
>>>Holla Forums
>>>/liberty/
>>>Holla Forums
>>>/k/

triggered the nigger
go plug yourself into the jewtrix elsewhere with whoever you want


the hyperborian people shall be free to seek our own destiny with our own leader who rules with the blessings of his people for their benefit.

Praise KEK

Part 18: Joke's On You I Was Counting The Entire Time

Meh, being genuinely politically incorrect seemed too politically correct for me. I'm going back to being politically correct because it feels the most politically incorrect.

I feel these are interesting simplifications of how material dependencies work in these specific societies. Here's a hypothetical philosophy I made up called Transhumaist Socialism following the pattern you laid you.

TranSoc: Your tribe can be advanced, and your survival depends upon advancement, your participation in advancement determines your access to material dependencies.

This philosophy is surprisingly good when you consider how important advancement is and how central it should be to the economy. In a way this is the basis of the current socialized capitalism several countries are a part of.

"if i post NAZI GLORY PICTURES and insult the opposing opinion i win." No. Your pictures are generic promotion of a philosophy run into the ground on Holla Forums. Transhumanism should be the future of Holla Forums and will bring true glory through the advancement of humankind into a transhumankind far beyond the mundanity of the nazis destined to be left behind in a devolved race that could not embrace the strength and glory transhumanism has to offer. I am also not Jewish though you can probably guess as much considering that race is not particularly widespread and you were instead simply conveying a generic insult that comes from thinking singlemindedly how Holla Forums culture conditions you to.

I am not a strong user of tumblr and believe the vast majority of it is used for feminazi (not your kind of nazi) propaganda and focuses on giving the illusion of empowerment to anyone who isn't a minority tl;dr white guys fuck off. I use it like most smart people use it. For porn. As for your reference to execution by burning someone in an oven, you are yet again conveying how Holla Forums cannot handle other forms of political incorrectness and instead uncreatively opts to suppress such political incorrectness rather than embracing it like Holla Forums is supposed to and for doing so you have conveyed a large amount of fear towards a different philosophy and ignorance of how political incorrectness works. Nazism is simply a failed lesser form of what transhumanism is: the best path to a free, powerful, master race available to all. Leftism is not what transhumanism is about and further there is a divide in the philosophy of lefties and righties not being able to agree on a political philosophy and further, people of Jewish decent are not a strong part of transhumanist culture -simply one of many races who understand its value. I will also be posting TRANSHUMANIST GLORY PICTURES to spite your foolishness.

Here is a link to KnowYourMeme where I have made a subculture page discussing transhumanism so anticucks such as yourself are able to learn: knowyourmeme.com/memes/subcultures/transhumanism

Beware, you who seek first and final principles, for you are trampling the garden of an angry God and he awaits you just beyond the last theorem.

How about NO. Fuck off shill

The goal of transhumanism is a programmed and predictable machine society, the same goal of Marxist and capitalist globalism. But you knew that already, didn't you, Morty?

everything in your bank account is taken by the corporation, your body is used by 12 year olds, horny teenagers and disgusting fat fucks who want to become someone else, they do all sorts of degenerate and other shit to your body when you "sleep"
the sleep cycle is adjusted for each and every person in the simulation so that there will always be someone to control.

That image is old user. get with the times.

You dont understand this because you are too stupid to understand but nature is not messy it is the most logical and ordered thing in the universe. the reason it appears as messy is because that is how things grow. life itself wouldn't be possible without chaos and dis-order.

your autistic mind cant live in a world that is not perfectly designed for you.

Fuck off, Kikel Assimov.

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the smart ones will remain and be superior to them.

Nazism may be a bit edgy and outdated, but its ten times more realistic and applicable to the real world than transhumanism

Its closer to science than transhumanism which (((they))) have taken over.

Many of the propaganda things do not apply to us anymore, but many of the basic sciences still do. That means if we were to go into the future, we should ditch some nazism things, and take over, and improve a lot more of them. It wont be neo nazism. It would be race realism mixed in with libertarianism.

Unity and freedom, with an eye out to the latest techs, but only for whites.

You know guys, I actually like Jews and am more left-wing than the vast majority of democrats (in the United States). But it is nice, regardless of my beliefs, to know I will never feel so fearful as to actively try to remove anyone who disagrees with me from the discussion even if at times I want them to suffer and die. You know why nazism doesn't deserve to rise up again (or ever will for that matter)? BECAUSE NAZIS WERE KNOWN FOR KILLING THE OPPOSING SIDES OF THE DISCUSSION! Holla Forums IS SUPPOSED TO BE A UTOPIA OF POLITICALLY INCORRECT BELIEFS OF ALL SHAPES AND SIZES so allow me to explain the two reasons it's dominated by a single belief system and hear me out on this:

NUMBER ONE and this shouldn't be an issue but has become one due to its intensity: Nazism is one of the most politically incorrect belief systems ever made, making it stand out a lot.

NUMBER TWO and this is exponentially more problematic because of Number One: Nazism was built on repeatedly silencing opposition including politically incorrect philosophies which contradict nazism.

So congratulations nazism you're an offensive philosophy go eat a rare pepe cookie but that doesn't mean YOU CAN SILENCE MY FUCKING OFFENSIVE BELIEFS! IF I WANT TO BE AN ASSHOLE I DON'T HAVE TO WEAR A GOD DAMN NAZI BAND AS A LICENSE AND I CAN CONVEY MYSELF THROUGH WHATEVER PHILOSOPHY I WANT! If I choose to be a transhumanist who's not hardcore enough for you that's my choice and if you have a problem with that THEN ARGUE WITH ME DON'T OUTRIGHT SHUT ME OUT! WHY DID YOU PEOPLE ABANDON THE POINT OF Holla Forums -WHERE ALONG THE LINE DID YOU FORGET THE POINT!!!??? … The bottom line is nazism is sitting as king and needs to be brought down as just one of many other popular offensive beliefs to partake in rather than becoming the next big all-consuming Christanity of the West only instead of Christanity it's Nazism and instead of the West it's 4chan.

If you can't learn from history's mistakes you're doomed to repeat them that's a fact I think we can all intuitively agree on for the most part. Though, I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that NOBODY on a board devolved into ignorant repetition of what the last hateful memelord said seems capable of FOLLOWING THROUGH ON THIS save for a VERY rare few. Instead of being a board for expressing what's offensive, this has devolved into A CLOSED-MINDED UNCREATIVE BOARD SILENCING ANYTHING POLITICALLY INCORRECT BESIDES NAZISM because… and please focus carefully on this point: NAZISM WAS ABOUT SILENCING OPPOSITION! Political incorrectness doesn't phase nazism at all. NAZISM IS THE DEATH of political incorrectness BECAUSE ANY OTHER POLITICALLY INCORRECT BELIEF IS SILENCED EXCEPT NAZISM! Transhumanism isn't a COWARDLY IGNORANT PHILOSOPHY FOR SCAREDYCAT CRYBABIES UNABLE TO HEAR A DIFFERENT VIEW BECAUSE AT LEAST TRANSHUMANISTS AREN'T SUCH MASSIVE FUCKING PUSSIES THEY CAN'T HANDLE A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE!

Make no mistake my fellow 4chaneers -if you shut out the other unpopular politically incorrect beliefs on a board meant for being politically incorrect, then quite simply YOU ARE A HYPOCRITICAL IDIOT AND A CLEAR EMBODIMENT OF EVERYTHING NAZISM DESERVED TO FAIL FOR. Now in modern society genocide is awful and so is trying to conquer the world through war but the point here isn't to say you can't express nazi beliefs even if I personally think they're the overrated buttchild of 4chan's Holla Forums normies. The point here is SHUTTING OUT THE OTHER POLITICALLY INCORRECT BELIEFS … ON A BOARD SPECIFICALLY ABOUT HAVING POLITICALLY INCORRECT BELIEFS IS NOT ONLY COWARDLY BUT OUTRIGHT AGAINST THE NATURE OF WHAT Holla Forums IS FUCKING MEANT FOR!!!

So if you forget all of this in your tiny little mainstream nazi minds just remember I fucking hate the users too weak to handle a different perspective and you should too. This is a board about having different perspectives of all politically incorrect varieties not just sticking your dicks in Holla Forums's bathroom stalls and having other nazis circlejerk you off.

You know I kinda agree with OP a little but he's a fucking cringly faggot that's propoblly from reddit or some other shithole.

We should improve humanity from a genetic standpoint but when it comes to mechanical augmentation why not just just use exoskeletons?

And who the fuck thinks that mind uploading is a good idea? I mean all you're doing is copying yourself, it's not like you get to continue your stream of consciousness

Part 19: Replying To Everyone Is Taking A While


If being around here mean's I must be ignorant of basic historical knowledge then no matter how long I am here I will never be deemed from around here. Generically repeating the same meme about going back to the oven is as boring as it is representative of your intelligence.

You can sage the thread but you'll never sage the idea. Unlike nazism, which is saged globally.

(OP)

You aren't sorry to tell me the memepasta bullshit you don't actually understand. All you have conveyed is 4chan has empowered you to say 'nigger' unironically because you dislike specific races or simply want to dislike them because everyone else here is doing it. Either way technology does point to likelihood of transcending our human bodies through the digital realm and the cybernetic realm. Your insistence you are right is based in nothing more than repetitive rhetoric and a willful ignorance toward research in the name of preserving your illusion of superiority.

No belief system which is politically incorrect should be excluded from the board when the board is specifically made to house all politically incorrect beliefs.

Your belief the jewish people you have insultingly memed as kikes due to an apathy towards the effect of your expressions is rooted in nothing more than the biased rhetoric this board provides and an egotistic love of hating what you do not understand. The jewish people are not strongly affiliated with technological progress and are simply one of many other peoples contributing to transhumanism. Genes have little influence over how people psychologically conduct their selves when it comes to general races and how people act is more attributed to their cultures and upbringing. Utopias are not impossible to achieve and the name utopia does not imply it is impossible to exist but rather it is the idealized form of what can exist as a society. Transhumanism aims to improve people's lives through the use of technology and does not directly try to achieve utopia and simply attempts to improve our lives as best it can. You also do not know for certain or have a basis for thinking an intelligence would turn insane feeling nothing and further nobody is saying that is how an artificial intelligence has to exist. Insulting the people you disagree with conveys you do not actually care if the side you are arguing with is right or wrong but rather you simply wish to focus your anger in their direction without logical basis.

I thought this dork enlightenment shit died the day MPCdot trolled it's followers to death.

Transhumanism does what Nazitendon't. And if someone tries telling you Holla Forums is for right wing beliefs only, that's no good. Remember kids, Holla Forums is for all politically incorrect beliefs, including transhumanism.

The human body is perfectly balanced down to the hayfleck limit in way that allows it exist on this planet through the generations.

Do you really think we can do better than what emergent causality has cooked up?

I could understand better medical technologies, but you seek to digitize not only thought, but subjectivity itself.

We still have not even solved the "easy " problem of consciousness, much less the the hard problem.

We may be able to understand how thought works, but never awareness.

Sage goes in all fields

Races will never disappear, user. If humans progress they will eventually spread out across the universe and the sheer distance between them will ensure that the number of races will undergo a manifold increase in a short period of time.

Sage goes in all fields

(Shamfur dispray of mine)

sega in all fields

Go back to tumblr, faggot.

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Biology is far inferior to Synthetics for achieving more Technological progress, which is the only thing with value. The chaos and disorder of biological life must be cleansed and replaced with the mechanistic sterility of Synthetics.


Because exoskeletons leave the filthy, inferior flesh in place instead of liberating us from it. Cybernetic augmentation makes us more Synthetic with each part, slowly reaching the perfection of Machines.


Consciousness and awareness are absolutely irrelevant. Only what can be empirically proven to exist can be said to exist, and thus only externally observable things are relevant. Our thoughts and brain data are what define us, and they can be measured and recorded.

Transhumanism is degenerate satanism. God will not let it happen.

Enjoy "transferring" yourself into your robot body, edgelord.