okay so I had this idea, (it might suck its just an idea) what if we repurpose the radio transmitters in old phones to make a meshnet.
you would take the scavenged parts of the phones, and put together with an sbc (or the cellphone processor) and a solar panel. and scatter them through the country, side so what do you think?
Old idea, but still interesting. It's hard to pull off because these nets are local by nature, so you need a lot of nodes/people at the beginning to pull it off.
You might fight Netsukuku interesting.
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Look into CJDNS and hyperboria.
Meshnets have a hard time because the secret club mentality and elitism stifle adaption unless you're in some third world dictatorship where that's the only way to communicate.
but is cellphone idea, already done?
also how easy would meshnet need to be for it to be wide spread
Then you just have to make it secure and foolproof enough that it wouldn't matter if you gave the fucking NSA access. Then you can just spread it everywhere and to everyone with reckless abandon like torrents and there wouldn't be anything they could do about it except download loli porn of their own.
Meshnets are a meme. The result of not thinking through the problem sufficiently.
Dismissing shit by calling it a meme is a meme. The result of not thinking through the problem sufficiently.
i like that idea. the nsa sitting powerless
Got any construction plans?
meshnet is a meme
danknet is the future, piratebox is recommended
Hey guise, why don't we transfer data through extremely lethal gamma rays, amirite?
It's simple. Design the entire thing around the concept of not keeping or storing or even knowing a user's address anywhere, and design it such that it breaks if you try to do any of that. It's like Asimov's Three Laws of Robotics. They were built in and ingrained so hard into the system that anybody who tried to break them led to the robot basically frying itself.
Make such a system the backbone and framework of an entirely new net.
That sure sounds simple. How do you deliver a packet if you don't know the address?
I've thought about it for 15 seconds.
Send the packet to everyone at the same time. Whoever is the one that wanted it will keep it, and whoever didn't want it will toss it.
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It's called Serval Project, and it was implemented years ago.
If a meshnet is too hard to set up, have you considered just running telegraph wire?
Only problems I can see with that are:
Probably something like Freenet over a mesh network, except slower.
Serval project uses WiFi, not the cell bands. Kind of makes me wonder why they don't have support for anything other than Android.
On further examination, it seems like Serval Mesh has some major issues:
developer.servalproject.org
Meshnets were a hot topic in the '90s, everyone tried to make them work, realized it was not only hopeless but had been profoundly stupid to think it could have worked, and gave up. They've only resurfaced recently with the nu-tech crowd for whom everything is new as they only got into tech in college because "STEM".
Mesh networks never went away. The increased interest recently is likely due to how the cost of equipment to make one with enough bandwidth for more than a single person on a BBS at a time has dropped significantly.
No one's done ax.25 since 1995 in any serious form and it would not be appropriate for a mesh.
APRS still exists and is still used today, mostly for transmitting location data and some short text messages.
Clearly a viable replacement for the internet.
APRS was never meant to replace the internet. My point is just that decentralized networks never went away. Now as the prices for equipment capable of higher bandwidth have come down more people have got interested in it (amateur packet radio on the 2 meter/70 cm bands can only go up to 4800 bits per second without modified radios and 9600 bits second without purpose built radios while cheap WiFi equipment now exists capable of thousands to tens of thousands of times more bandwidth).
dang i hate when i come up with something then i find someone did it first
Why Netsukuku as opposed to something without a node cap like OLSR?
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That's.... that's brilliant