A list of Xenoestrogens

Also, seems like a list that says what you CAN eat/use would be significantly shorter than this list.

Fuck! This list is huge.

And you type like a weak effeminate male, too. There's a reason right there for you to change your lifestyle. It will be a positive change.

fug

So just eat spinach every day?

Lay off the bath salts man

YES

Is there also a list of testosterone dominated food?

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This, it's likely easier to follow a list of what you can and should eat because that list is likely far shorter these days.

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Contribootin with an image version.

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Here's a recent thread on the topic:

archive.is/Pborg

artofmanliness.com/2013/01/18/how-to-increase-testosterone-naturally/

good info for people who want to have a son in the future and avoid them becoming a little faggot

Into the garbage.

wow what a faggot

Typing "uh" doesn't indicate anything. Judging based on two letters does, however.

why don't you email the author and call him a liar?

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Fuck I want to get rid of this stuff but It'll cause me a major inconvenience in my everyday life.
Is there any activities I can do to produce extra testosterone such as working out?

Carl von Linné on coffee:

"Den synes pigga upp de slöa och skärpa de dumma, men genom att uttorka hjärnan och nervsystemet försvagar den kroppen och orsakar för tidigt åldrande”.
Linné såg dock en potential för drycken som medicin för ”dem som äro matta, dästa, flegmatiska och feta”.

Eng:
"It seems to brighten up the dull and sharpen the stupid, but desiccates the brain and nervous system which weakens the body and causes premature ageing."
Linnaeus, however, saw a potential for the drink as medicine for "those who are vacant, bloated, phlegmatic and obese."

This seems like a whole lotta excuse making.

"I'm a beta faggot not because I lack character and a backbone but because MUH CHEMICALS IN THE FOOD SUPPLY"

You fags are just like the anticircum autists who blame circumcision for why no woman wants to fuck them.

Ladyfriend made some tofu and made me think of this. Perfect timing, thanks OP

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Any lurkers browsing this thread don't fucking buy into this BS. Look at the sources in OP's link at the bottom of the page the only one that looks reputable is the first one and it's just a link to the main webpage of the site.

Plant estrogen is not the same as estrogen from other mammals, aka your female cow hamburger or female chicken breast. Yes Phyto-estrogens are technically "xeno" but all that means is foreign. It's not the same as consuming animal products that have actual female hormones in them.

OP's list also checks phthalates which is most prevalent in meat cooked at high temps such as chicken., a.k.a bitch tit city.

Yes avoid chemicals and harmful ingedients, but don't stop eating plant food. Don't be a fat, unhealthy westerner like half the American population. You can eat like shit and still have abs it doesn't mean your lean organic meats are any better than plant food.

What are all of those even supposed to be?

After I went on a low-carb diet, I started getting hard-as-fuck morning wood every day.

I agree but think there is more to it then that. As somebody that only drinks caffeine sporadically, the psychoactive effects are very noticeable.

It creates a tensing up, a fixation on individual tasks with an accompanying lack of awareness of the context those tasks are taking place in.

It is the perfect worker drone drug, consuming caffeine every day is going through life with blinders on and intuition inhibited. Don't think about the big picture, don't consider why you are working, silence that nagging feeling that you are wasting your life away working for Mr. Noseburg. Just do the thing.

So, anyone on this regime can actually test himself for estrogen presence? It wouldnt be that hard or would it? Those tests are not that difficult to have.

Low carb diets are generally not good for your test though.

Sounds like low-fat vegan bullshit

Google it, plenty of research that says that low carb is actually bad for your test.

All I can find are studies that put people on low-carb diets for a short amount of time; a week if even.
Doesn't surprise me that if you take Average Joe and drastically change his diet instantly that he's going to have a negative effect on his health. To add to that, not give his body enough time to adjust for the change in diet seems like bad research/testing.

Have any longer term studies on this?

The big problem with buying all these items is that they are expensive.

I started using Grandpa's Pine Tar soap and while I like it, it doesn't last nearly as long as el cheapo soap brand that I used to buy. I have looked at other cleaning items and find that they all are going to cost more as well.

Organic anything is going to increase the price by 1.25 at least and in some cases are impossible to find depending on where you live. I like the idea but as a student, I can't afford it.

Just threw away all my conventional shampoo, conditioner and soap, I'll have to go to a specialty soap store I know. I figure if I can virtually eliminate the amount of xenoestrogens that touch my skin, digesting them every now and then won't be nearly as bad.

Paying a couple more bucks to be and feel healthier and ensure you can have children without defects in the future are a small price to pay imo but to each their own.

Coffee has been a staple good of the West since the Austrians routed the Ottomans at the Battle of Vienna in 1683.

These lists are bullshit made by legit tin-foilers.

It's a buzzword used to jack prices up on random goods. It's like "premium" or "all-natural." It means nothing and gets suckers like you to pay significantly more than otherwise.

Well its your body dude, but the first link that has links to other studies is this…

anabolicmen.com/carbohydrates-testosterone/

so whatever, I will be eating carbs still. And the way the muscles work it makes sense. Having low carbs will fuck up your recovery since the glycogen reserves cannot be restored properly.

There are even things like the cyclical keto diets that account for this fact, where you load up on carbs for your training.

But to the body its basically like starvation, the stress that it produces means lower test.

but hey, il say this again, its your body. Do what you want with it and struggle against whatever narrative that you want. Its not like there are also people like me (who went keto, low carb for 2 weeks and found a decrease in test, even if I am already doing 2 years worth of weight lifting… and had the keto, paleo diet and others multiple times…)

Thank you kindly, user

You know, you could also be ingesting aromatase inhibitors. Things like carbinol 3, dim. They block estrogen.

That's what I've found in my studies. It's more likley for you to be exposed to xenoestrogens through skin touch and breathing than eating.
Your body can filter a lot of the excessive xenoestrogens through the digestive process. But breathing and skin touching tends to lead to a more direct way of xenoestrogens getting into the blood stream.

I recently got Tierra Mia coconut and lime shampoo bar and my hair has never felt better. Before that I tried the coconut bar from chagrin valley but I'm liking Tierra Mia's better.

anabolics.com/pages/List-of-Anabolic-Steroids

How to block Xenoestrogens and rid estrogen dominance

Adopt a regiment of aromatase inhibitors

Note: Aromatase is the enzyme in your body that produces estrogen by taking estrogenuous compounds and turning it into estrogen:

Immediately ingest sources of indole 3 carbinol and DIM. You can obtain these from cruciferous vegetables or jewgle indole 3 carbinol for supplements that contain it. Too lazy?

lifeextension.com/vitamins-supplements/item01468/triple-action-cruciferous-vegetable-extract#panelSupplements

Read the ingredients list and plan on basing that around your next grocery shopping. Or just find that somewhere, buy it, or order it. There are other safe and natural forms of aromatase inhibition. Look them up at your own convenience.

Purge excess estrogens

Calcium D-glucarate. This one is harder to get in foods but you can jewgle that for food sources. If you don't mind pills and tablets, find it in supplement form.

Begin building testosterone

Zinc and vitamin d3 a re your friends. They're essential. Zinc is heavily present in meats. Vitamin d3 comes from sunlight. Draw your own conclusions from there. Because you have blocked aromatase, your body will not convert testosterone (at least not heavily) into estrogen like it normally would. You will begin replacing that much needed testosterone and shed curves, weight, and so on.

for those interested more about testosterone buildup, here is a good book. Though its not exactly been peer reviewed much, but I have found a lot of the stuff inside of it to be true. Take it with a grain of salt though, /fit/ was skeptical of it.

kat.cr/testshock-program-2014-by-christopher-walker-dr-soc-requested-t11916629.html

I really should stop drinking it man.

I read the study linked in the article you linked

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3573976

And the study was conducted for 10 days. That's what I'm talking about when I read these kinds of studies when I say they need a longer study. A few months is perfectly fine but all I can find are studies done for about a week.

Me too. Its a scourge on my mental and physical health, as in I drink way too much of it and way too strong.

Well if there are no studies dont for the longer term, would you be willing to be a guinea pig in favor of some vague ideology when the early signs suggest that it may be indeed bad?

Is there even any counter evidence to suggest that it may be good?

I haven't, though. I've thrived on a low-carb diet. High energy, excellent sleep, my erections are viagra-tier, etc.

YMMV

Meat and animal fat. Grass fed, organic is best. If you aren't eating grass fed cow, sheep, goat etc than supplement lots of fish oil or eat lots of fish. There are no better foods for testosterone than red meat and animal fat.

Some will say eat a low carb diet but since the definition of low carb diet varies so much just focus on eating meat and fat and adding enough carbs from a good source (I use potatoes and rice).

If you just focus on reducing your intake of crap and make simple meals, e.g, fatty steak with potatoes and veggies, lamb chops with veggies, irish stews, shepherds pies you will notice a difference.

It took europeans 50 thousand years to be able to digest milk. We have eaten grains for the same amount of time…it wouldnt be too far off to suggest that we are already used to them, perhaps even require them as some research shows.

This except every time I go low carb I get the worst shits imaginable. Did some research on it andyhey should only last a few days, but mine are persistent throughout the diet. Any anons experience this too?

Fuck off kike. Grains are a semitic food. Europeans were hunters and pastoralists. Meat, veggies, fruits, dairy.

The best thing I ever did was stop eating grains. It takes a month or so for some (the low carb flu) which is just candida die off.

Avoid normal drinking water as hormonal birth control is pissed out into our drinking water and is nearly impossible to filter out.

Related: hormonal birth control should be fucking illegal

Take it easy user. I like carbs and plan on drinking milk well into my old age. All I'm trying to find are good studies on the effects of high-carb diets vs high-protein or high-fat diets on general health. But what I typically find are shotty studies at best. I was hoping you had some other studies on hand since it seems you have some knowledge on the subject.

Plus I'm harping on the length of the study's because I know for a fact when you switch your diet away from higher-carbs your body needs to adjust to creating glucose from fat/protein, that's why the time spend on the diet is so important. Your body needs time to switch gears and adapt to the new source of energy and start the necessary mechanisms to function normally.

this shit is well known across anyone who is fit.
Stop eating junk food, stop drinking sugar beverages, stop eating outside, make everything yourself, eat plenty of veggies and yes spinach is by far the best of all em. Buy meat that has not been processed and doesnt use hormones on the animals. Eat lean and fucking go out and do some excercise you fucking faggots

It took me over a month to get over the low carb flu. It is candida die off. Candida is a fungus in your gut that consumes sugar and grains and starves to death.

Cutting out grains and processed foods was enough for me. I don't focus on eating low carb per se but not eating pizza, burgers and pasta makes me lower carb than the average landwhale.

Other benefits of no grains/processed foods. My hair loss stopped. Sadly too late though. I am partially bald. Lost belly fat. I have since put on a bit of muscle too. The only time I fart or get indigestion seems to be when I eat grains or processed food. No more acne. More energy.

I also don't consume dairy except for cheese or milk in tea/coffee.

Sugar/grains are an addiction and breaking any addiction takes time and willpower. There are plenty of beginner sites. Marksdailyapple. com was where I first started.

Gnolls .com is probably the best if you want the science

If you want a redpiller's take on paleo/low carb go to hawaiianlibertarian.blogspot .com

Not really. Like it says, most of what you eat is metabolized by your liver before it gets anywhere else so the real issue is what gets absorbed through your skin. As long as you go hormone-free the dietary restrictions aren't really significant - you're not going to start growing tits if you have a beer and a plate of curry and you should be taking steps to optimise your test anyway.

This.. actually made an impact on me.
I do know about the increased anxiety, but have never considered the rest.

I enjoy some of the finer coffees sometimes, preferably something in the hazelnut persuasion.
But you just convinced me to try going without the perfunctory cup of generic coffee I have three times a day no matter what.

Holy fuck you guys are dumb. I am an organic farmer, I guarantee you it is 100% bullshit. The only difference is the price.

I hope all those snacks are being shared with at least 12 people.

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Are you this autistic or are you just having a laugh?

The research into nutrition has been deliberately jewed up by big ag.

Mah nigga. I use it too, this thing is great. Not only does it last very long, it also cleans well and smells heavenly. I am surprised that something that smells this good isn't edible, tbh. My hair has become fuller and springier since I started using it.

And it's all-natural, pic related.

You just made me want to quit coffee again. I gave it up for 6 months and felt great then I started a really physically demanding job with very early starts and was tired as hell to start with so I started drinking coffee again.

For those wondering, caffeine withdrawal is real. It lasted 3 or so days and then I actually became a morning person for the first time in my life.

This better not be real

start working out user. Eat healthy and and you will be more energetic. if you need a boost of energy with no crash, find shit like this

I read about how this shit is absorbed through the skin and started using a homemade clothes detergent.
There are many recipes around, most are very easy to make and cheaper than the alternative.
Soap is also very easy to make. Be a man and use animal tallow.
Stop poisoning yourselves, stop giving money to the whole foods jew and Johnsonberg & Johnsonberg. Make it right at home.

"Organic" has standards put in place for what is allowed and not allowed under the label. Prior to GMOs and artificial pesticide/herbicide use starting in the 90s (60s for the latter), everything was organic. "All-natural" and "premium" are unregulated buzzwords though regardless of the quality of the products that use them.

vid related

Caffeine is an addictive drug. You shouldn't be using it at all.

yea, the organic label and organic are two different things, although the FDA organic standard is actually not that that bad and a decent indicator that the food is safe to eat.

It's muh culture tho.

I need a stimulat. Without coffee i am mentally and physically slow and slugish all day long.

It's the drug of the working man. You get stuff done when you're on coffee.

Coffee makes you slow and sluggish, you dolt. You get an intense high after you drink it that allows you to get up and start functioning, but it quickly wears off and you start feeling tired. Which you rectify with another cup of coffee, then another and so on. It taxes your heart, it taxes your nervous system, and by the end of the day you feel exhausted, restless and irritable because your system cannot handle all this shock. You go to sleep but wake up tired… and make yourself another cup of coffee.
Stop drinking this garbage. It slowly kills you.

Limit ejaculation frequency.

Find out when your testosterone peaks. For most healthy young males, it's day 4 or 5 after ejaculation. This increases with age.

If you do that in conjunction with strength training, you will have incredible gains.

Nofap will not give those gains, because testicular function shuts down after too long absence, so you have to find the sweet spot. 4-5 days is the average.

I found that sugar, gluten and dairy are the big offenders. If you can limit those, a lot of problems clear up.
Also, ginger is fucking incredible. It increases circulation and is a COX-2 inhibitor to fight inflammation. It prevents DOMS from exercise and inreases recovery.

Because it increases circulation, it gives the same benefits as the NO2 precursor L-Arginine, but unlike Arginine, it does not cause herpes outbreak if you have the virus, or potentially overstimulate your kidneys.

D-Limonene is anti-aromatase and you find it in citrus fruits.

if i'm already into crossdressing, dreaming about guys, etc is there any point in cutting out xenoestrogens or am i already too far gone or just too degenerate anyway?

lol bro, I have been working out for years, that is how I found paleo to start with. Get back to me when you get a 500lb deadlift.

I am a scaffolder. It is one of the toughest jobs. A day of scaffolding is like a week of powerlifting.

Thanks for the advice but I will be right now that I have adjusted to getting up 3 hours earlier and doing more than just an hour in the gym a day and then spending all day sitting on my ass (was a deliveryman but lost my licence).

Amino Acids are too expensive. I just make sure to eat lots of animal fat.

Aww yeah. I make ginger tea (basically, ginger+honey+hot water) in the morning and I feel like I can lift mountains for the entire day.

Yes, I get access to something that would be out of reach if i stayed sober.
You can't get that level of alertness and focus without coffee. I am taxing my future self, but fuck that guy, honestly tbh fam.orth.

Yes, yes it does. The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long.

that is digusting

Yeah, enjoy those shaking hands, bowel issues and sleep problems by the time you are fifty. Along with never being able to truly feel rested and being an irritable cunt all around because your nervous system is fucked since you overtaxed it by making shekels for Mr. Noseberg.

Hops are pretty potent xenoestrogens, soy is mild

Rosemary? Are you fucking kidding me?

kys fgt

Coffee is only estrogenic if you're an Asian female

Coffee is androgenic you little faggots

Coffee being estrogenic is the least of your worries if you drink it regularly.

this is sick and wrong. is real should be a cube

I've done research on the neurological affects of caffeine and run a polymerase chain reaction to test for a SNP responsible for caffeine metabolism. i know all a fucking bout caffeine and coffee. there is literally nothing wrong with it.

then you'll stop drinking it and feel sleepy for a few days until your acetylcholine receptors regenerate

not a big deal

faggg

*Adenosine receptors

Whew. That's why i drink coffee. I don't want to feel rested, it is one of the worst feelings.
I want to feel alive. I want to feel like i can solve the world's problems in an afternoon.

I am self-employed and i am be able to afford high quality food, good doctors, etc. Thanks for your concerns though.

even though it prevents hormones being converted into estrogen in males…

I said this in the last thread regarding naturally occurring xenoestrogens like those found in peanuts, dates, blueberries, etc: Create the condition in which you need testosterone. That means working out, having sex, etc. It's the body's ability to maintain homeostasis where imbalances in the body are counteracted.
You don't have to worry about being a good gopnik, chewing your sunflower seeds and drinking beer, turning you into a trap.

yea the list is fucked

not everything with phytoestrogens has a net estrogenic affect on the human body

Iirc fermentation neutralizes estrogen, that's why hops beer and fermented soy beans are okay to eat.

Thanks bro.

Ginger is one of my stable spices when cooking but I will give ginger tea a go. Do you simply cut up a small piece of ginger and let it sit in cup of boiling water then strain it or do you leave the ginger in?

I like peppermint teas because peppermint really seems to clear the sinuses.

A redpilled blogger once swore that fish oil and magnesium (from raw cocoa) gave him morning wood like he was a teenager again.

Thats only in quality soy sauce, not the cheap kind, and certainly not hops

Not just testosterone, also micronutrients.

Eat nuts. All kinds of nuts. A handful every day.

Good nutrition is mostly common sense: avoid processed junk, eat a varied diet, don't overcook, eat fresh, quality over quantity.

fag

Try goldenseal extract.
That stuff clears sinuses better than cayenne

I am pretty sure all soy sauce is fermented. Otherwise it wouldn't soy sauce.
Same goes for beer. Fermentation has the ability to neutralize and convert a lot of harmful substances and plant toxins. That's why beer is the alchemist's health food.
It turns disgusting grains, malt and hops into a delicious, wholesome beverage.

LITERALLY EVERYTHING IS GOING TO KILL YOU AND TURN YOU INTO A MINDLESS FEMINIST NU-MALE SLAVE

Red clover and soy is literally used by mentally ill faggots to turn themselves into abominations. That's what they snack on while they're waiting for the doctor's approval, hormones and their 18th birthday.

You can make your own soap.
>>>/diy/
is not just wholesome fun, it also gives you skills for the habbening and saves money.

That label reads like you could take a bite out of it and then go for seconds.

Let food be your shampoo and shampoo be your food.

There is this thing called foraging. You do not need to have agriculture to eat grains. Where I live, this shit grows everywhere. We where eating grains from the beggining.

Here's a more appropriately sized version of that pic. Still a bit small for the discerning user's screen size, but at least it's better than that thumbnail bullshit.

All right lads it's official summer is here.

It kinda makes sense once you have division of labor, farming tools, selective breeding programs and a King that requires you to plant it for long-term storage under penalty of death.
Would the orihinal wild form be worth harvesting by hand? I doubt it. Does it form monocultures? Probably not, so it takes a lot of time and energy to harvest some tiny grains that are hard to chew and digest. Even nettle seeds are probably easier to harvest.

ZMA, Cruciferous Vegetables, Meats + Lift.

Try to get as many grams of protein as pounds of bodyweight, I wasn't doing this for years while working out consistently and it was a mistake.

Because grains really grow so well in cold, mountainous environments

I've gone through a good amount of research on how much protein is needed to ensure not only proper muscle maintenance but muscle hypertrophy, 0.82 grams per lb of muscle (lean body mass) seems to be perfectly fine even for intense routine workouts and olympic trainers.

i.e. calculate your fat percentage and convert to amount of fat in lbs then subtract that from your total weight to get your lean body mass.

This is just a natural result of letting the tinfoilers in.

Do you know what the Romans primarily consumed?

In before "Romans and Greeks and Iberians and Phoenicians were kikes, only Germanic Barbarians were truly white!"

Gee thanks

all my wat

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Jews eat, Jews breathe, and Jews drink. I don't know about you, but if Jews do it, I want no part of it.

Go and read a book you faggot.

I kekd heartily

>using the laughing Jew

Does Hairy Pooper count?

wew

more information please. i've been watching videos of soap making. i'm going to watch some instructional videos on detergent making.

Why aren't you making jewsoap user?

It'll make your skin as soft as butter.

I don't know exactly what happened to me over the last several years but I think I like it.

I use borax, super washing soda (sodium carbonate), and a laundry bar soap like fels-naptha. All within five feet of each-other at wallmart.
One cup of the powders, and a bar of the soap in a blender. Add ~1/4c baking soda till it isn't sticky. Store in a mason jar. Use vinegar with essential oil as fabric softener. The commercial shit destroys your clothes.
I haven't done any soap yet, but from what I looked at it doesn't seem hard. Just have to find a place to buy tallow (a butcher maybe, but you might have a hard time finding one) Or you could be a fag and use vegetable oil.

I either end up burning the ingredients when I try to make it.

Or can't get the smell of gas out after I use it.

As long as you don't delude yourself into believing jewish ideologies of self-delusion user.

Weak effeminate make detected. Go to your safe zone faggot.

I'm so hungry now, Wayne. Good god.

Don't go for a bag of chips, throw that useless shit away

I'm already a health freak. I've just only got some apples right now. Been out of meat for like 2 days now so I'm salivating at the thought of delicious steak.

That's like 12 dollars on ebay.

I have this cheap stuff that's marketed as "simple" while the ingredients look like anything but.
I don't see paraben or phenoxyethanol, but all this stuff certainly looks questionable.

The "SLS" (anything with Sulfate in the name) stuff is bad for you user. "Simple" is just another marketing word.

Yea, this is kinda right, I am interested in all of this as well I guess. Its just that research is indeed scarce. The grains, carbs vs paleo tards thing is still raging on. And there is no easy conclusion to make out of it.

Whether the decline of test is related to the keto flu or not has also not been proven.

As someone who was on keto multiple times for weightloss though, I think that the lower test is a thing that may just always come with it. Though personal experience doesnt say much because the other user says he is a sexual tyrannosaurus with the same thing…

Low lipids/low cholesterol is bad for testosterone. Also needing carbs to live is a myth. They're nice but you can survive completely on animal meat and fat as long as you're also getting all your essential vitamins, just ask the abos in Canada and Siberia. Also, your body needs time to adjust (at least a month) from a typical high-carb diet to a low-carb high-fat diet so that study isn't very helpful when it's just showing the withdrawal phase of a diet change. The problem with many people that try ketosis type diets is they never get enough fat, they underestimate how much fat they need and thus testosterone production suffers.

Oh please. You fags try to blame your weak and undeveloped tendencies on anything but your own volition or your parents or schooling. You throw huge fucking fits about ho to remove etrogen from water, as if that will fix your deficencies of characters regardless of their cause. Whites are not made for hair-trigger violence. There's a difference between serum testosterone levels and sex steroid receptor sensitivity. You can only throw so much testosterone at a receptor before it stops changing it's aggressiveness (to produce hair, muscle, etc).

I swear this is some fucking Alex Jones tier shit meant to sell water filters and it preys upon your insecurities of your feminine character and inflated sense of caricatured machismo that no true white man follows. If you want to be a hardcore man man man, you've already achieved it by being autistic as fuck and having anger issues. The only hurdle to overcome is not caring about other peoples' emotions when it comes to "enforcing" your will, which makes you a psychopath like jews.

Also, being a fat motherfucker increases your estrogen levels and ani-andrgen aromatase levels. I know a lot of you fuckers are fat, slothful fucks. Fix your own shit and the rest will come naturally.

Have some god damn discipline and care when choosing your food, eating schedule and amounts, and activities. You have to starve to cut, just keep up your protein and vitamins while you do it. Fuck.

You probably need it. Once you fix your diet, your cravings readjust to what your body is saying you're missing. One way to do this is to supplement with glutamic acid (l-glutamine). Craving steaks may mean you need some fats or protein.

What does that do?
Re-adjust cravings?

Or iron.

Red meat is rich in iron. I have a family history of iron anemia, and also a family history of steak lovers. We also love spinach.

checked

Protein.

Found the kike.

If you bothered to read through the thread, you'd see that most of it is constructive discussion focused on finding ways to lessen the impact of harmful chemicals to our bodies. In other words, being healthy. No one here is blaming anyone.

So what does Holla Forums actually drink in the morning?

I drink this every morning instead of coffee. My drink doesn't have a name yet, but it's really helped keep my energy levels up.

Ingredients

Debating whether to keep honey or go for maple syrup. Cinnamon can also be swapped with raw cacao.

Thoughts?

At this point it'll be simpler and faster to just make a list of all the things we can still do, eat and use. It's getting quite complicated and painful to avoid getting infected with wolbachia. And then there's still GMO foods, pesticides, heavy metals, air pollution…

So what remains really? Drink water, eat food you grow and cook yourself, and bathe in mud? I guess I may as well just do that and list things I can still do, and just live by that.

Also:

I drink fresh organic grapefruit juice in the morning. Enough to kick me for the whole day.

I'm glad I can keep my grapefruit.

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You bet it would be worth it, because of how stable and useful it is.

Really good soap, best I've ever used and its cheap at around $1.00-$1.50 a bar.

Doesn't have fragrances and doesn't seem to leave any soap scum on you.

Linking xenoestrogen facts with veganism bullshit, just like OP.

About soaps: best soaps on the planet are Marseille, and Alep soaps, along with some other less known but just as good soaps produced around the Mediterranean sea.

It can be hard to find real ones, for they are so renowned that many companies reuse those names to sell shit soap. When you get the real stuff, it's just 100% of one of the most concentrated soaps you can find, as anything more concentrated would hurt your skin. Actually, if your skin is too sensitive, Marseille soap WILL hurt it, but Alep soap is softer.
It's commonly used in Europe and Maghreb as an all purpose soap, which is just as well used to wash the floor, do the dishes, wash your body and hair, and even your teeth if your mouth can stand it. Most European commercial cleaning products, detergents, shower gels and shampoos are for the most part dissolved Marseille soap.

They are, in fact, similar to Castille soap, except originally produced in different areas with different recipes which gave them different names, Castille soap being the softest, and Marseille soap being the most efficient. And you'll surely think "hey, Kirk's Original Coco Castile is Castille soap!", and this is where it gets dirty.
Aside from Europe and Africa where those things are closely regulated, any soap made of at least 72% of olive oil, regardless of the quality of said oil, can be called "Castille soap" in America, even if they contain sodium talowate or sodium palmate / palm kernelate, so either you wash yourself with bacon or frying oil. So you can't know what you're buying in America, you could piss in cheap olive oil and call it "Castille soap".

Order it from a local producer in Europe, but don't trust most corporations to be on your side.

I don't use any soap, shampoo or laundry detergent. I've not used them in months and everything seems fine.

I still use dish soap though. Would something like Dr. Brommer's liquid soap work just as well?

This user is correct. Next you'll be telling us to stop drinking wine, it's the fermented jew.

Grapefruit inhibits the enzyme which deactivates estrogens.

But caffeine is largely beneficial. Wine is the next worst alcohol after beers.

It's like saying aspirin is the best anti-inflamatory drug.. It's about additives, not the main agent. Traditional solid soaps have their shitty disadvantages like creating additional scale..

I really love that this list provides alternatives

This shit is peddled in mass paranoia, I do agree, but you'll find rather than complete kneejerk and people flocking to this like the time people shilled tinder on /r9k/ and here, there's people actually saying "you know, you could start working out and stop being a fat lazy fuck" as well.

Cutting out every one of these things is impossible, let people try though. Sure, you can draw some conclusions that a lot of this shit is unhealthy. To the degree we blame western feminization on it? Fuck preposterous. Too many people have varied diets, different ground water access… For all the particularly "they're pumpin' up Jamal," for all who bitch about "Chads" you know they're drinking/eating shit from most of the same sources you are, in the end, right? Parroting something from earlier, the tests are unfucking-reliable at this stage, but that's just an overall statement: it's becoming impossible to trust anything we hear anymore because even the peer-review system is a nepotistic corrupt shithole.

Personal take? I just try to follow a few rules that led to positive overall results: cut the fuck out of processed sugar (there's decades worth of research on that shit, at least,) get exercise and/or a routine, and get out of the house for the purpose of socializing in situations where you meet new people.

Personal goals to become a better person are not bad.

The way I see it is that at the end of the day, even if all the stuff we think we know about our diet effecting estrogen and test levels turns out to be bullshit, there's still no harm in following most of the advice in this thread because you'll have at least gained a somewhat healthier diet from it.

I figure anyone who'll go far enough to completely change their diet probably also has the willpower to simultaneously pick up doing exercise by themselves, and thus will be well on the way towards not being a fat fuck.

tl;dr threads like these are productive either way because it gets anons to think about their diet and health. Can't fight race war if you're not in good physical condition!

Seriously lads, if you're THIS insecure about your masculinity, you're probably already a faggot.
Go suck some dick and sort your life out, m8.

only if you're a nigger.
coffee to us whites is like soy to the gooks, we've been drinking it for so long that our bodies have adapted to it

no, no we haven't and no they didn't.

1.) the majority of the white populace just started drinking coffee 3-4 centuries ago, arabs were drinking coffee way earlier than us

2.) soy also affects asians, they have the lowest birthrates, highest estrogenlevels BEAUCSE of their soy consumation.
Allthough they eat their soy fermented, hence the effect isn't as intense.

Sperm counts are down 80% since the 1950s.

They have almost finished sterilizing you.

There are bioaccumulating calcium channel blockers in the hand soaps and now the tooth paste too, to kill off the elderly.

The government puts rat poison in the water and people think it is good for their teeth, because the television. They rush to the pharmacy to get rat poison tablets for their children, "for their teeth".

Sociopaths are running the world and they are laughing at how stupid the public is. They call them, "the dead", because they are not alive and not able to use reason.

All previous empires have emasculated and feminized and sterilized their slave/worker populations. The US and NATO is no different.

They are even beginning to put dsRNA into food, that can knock out the expression of specific proteins.

They are feeding cottonseed oil to the cows and chickens, in the US now. This is what the chinese did to sterilize their population to meet the WTO "one child" population reduction mandates.

The UN loves using Gossypol to sterilize people. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gossypol

The testosterone injections and other medical injections always use cotton seed, because of the gossypol.

The UK, EU and Australia banned boron in all food products, because it is required for testosterone and sperm production.

Sperm counts are down 80% from sixty years ago.

If you want to survive, you have to build your own societies and take control of your food, your soap, your land, your water, manufacturing and defense.

The elite do not eat the same food you do. They do not use the same soap and they do not bath and drink in the same water.

They have their own land, with tenant farmers, who grow their beef and chicken and they dont feed them cotton seed. Now they are putting up food domes in Japan and Germany, so their avocado and orange trees are not exposed to the dust from fukushima and the crap they are spraying into the atmosphere.

You have no idea.

Soy is almost unedible. All empires put the populations onto estrogens, to make the slave populations easier to control. Also for "population control", when the empire has too many slaves and wants to keep them from breeding.

Eventually you will have "enuchs" or the empire will encourage people to cut off their penis, in exchange for privileges and status and positions of power. That is what the promotion of transsexuals in the corporate hierarchy is about.

Another estrogen crop is cotton seed. Cotton seed was used to sterilize chinese workers, in the WTO "one child" mandate enforcement. Now it is being used on the US and EU. It is being fed to the cows and chickens, to help feminize the slave/worker population and prevent peasant revolts.

There is nothing new under the sun.

Top post. The (((elite))) are waging all out war by any and all means necessary to sterilize and weaken both the individual and society as a whole. The ultimate vector into the human body and brain is food and water.

FOOD IS A WEAPON

When it comes to soap, anything aside from organic vegetal oils, glycerin and soda is an additive. And most of those additives have their own additives as well: non organic oils contain pesticides and can be GMOs, and animal oils contain hormones and antibiotics.

Traditional soap isn't even expensive and quite easy to obtain, there's no reason not to. Though I'd love to learn more about their disadvantages, because aside from some of those being hard for your skin if used pure, I'm not seeing it, nor what "creating additional scale" even means.

That's common core math, Bill Gates is for it.

Women buy most soap. Try to convince most women that plain soap is good enough. They've been convinced that putting ten different vitamins in hair soap actually does something to their hair

Sources for each of your claims. Now,

Fuck you, I just looked into it and it's actually true.

For anyone interested, grapefruit contains furanocoumarins, which inhibits CYP3A4, an important enzyme in the liver which takes care of getting rid of xenobiotics, that is stuff in the body that has no reason to be there, whether medicine, toxins or fucking estrogen.

A thing important to note though: it regulates so many things, it's more important than just for estrogen. But then, it regulates:
- Finasteride, a drug whose purpose is to increase testosterone
- Estradiol, estrogen found in things like prostate cancer treatment
- Progesterone, birth control drug
- Ethinylestradiol, estrogen for birth control
- Testosterone
- Toremifene, drug used to regulate estrogen, treats breast cancer
- Bicalutamide, powerful antiandrogen, meaning, anti-male

Grapefruit gives drugs free reign, and can cause a surdosage leading to death. Is there anything safe to eat?

The thing is that the majority of unnecessary estrogen that you're taking in comes from soaps, perfumes, shampoos, and deodorants. All of this is taken in through the skin.
The male human body is meant to have both estrogen and testosterone. Foods with estrogen always have existed.
Just don't gorge out on foods that release estrogen, , eat a reasonably diet, and be wary of perfumes in soap, and you should be fine.
My point is that if you're attempting to re-arrange your body chemistry by going too far with avoiding estrogens in foods, you will end up doing more harm than good.

Is this a joke? The sources are a fucking wiki page.

Top /x/

Has it occurred to anyone else that the reason why nobody else believes a lot of the bullshit on this board is not because the average poster is so intelligent, but because they're so motherfucking gullible?

Interviewer : "Were you put up to this by Downing St.?"

Will try you potion for a while.

Did something similar a few years back, a t-spoon of Cayenne, Cinnamon. Oregano, Rosemarin, Chia-seeds and other spices.
This was before I had read into xenoestrogens, but I felt great afterwards.

Now I primarily use herb-extracts, like Chaga and Nettle, harvested and produced locally.

A pint of sea water and a pint of beer.

piss off, next youll tell me i cant have beer.

The best potion.

In other words, avoid practically everything.

Good thing I don't really drink coffee. Only times I've drank it was when I had to wake up at 6am to get ready/leave for 8am lectures.

Lost me at turmeric also. Why not toss organic honey and vaginal fluid in there too?

Probably an honest mistake, but come the fuck on.

Except alcohol is poison to your body always.

you should try actually reading ingredients. that shit has the same chemicals as the other soaps.

If your soap isn't see through, you're doing it wrong.