What can people tell me about Kaiser Wilhelm II...

Hitler constantly rails against Jewish control of the newspapers in Mein Kampf and the Bavarian revolution and general 1918 revolution means that there were clearly many subversive elements left in Germany.

I'm talking about during Bismarck and Wilhelm's reign, not the 1920s. Information was pretty tightly controlled in most state of the mainland.

You can look at Adolf as someone who immediately stopped the decay for a time or in the very least delayed it a decade.

Yes, but we shoud be promoting going back to the original stability. Not the emergency Adolf-Bandaid

Exactly. Steps at a time friend, you can't cross an entire mountain in a day on foot.

WW2 was the last stand. For at least 2 centuries before then the old powers were getting struck by revolutionaries (read: jews) on all sides. Weakening bit by bit every decade.The first world war was the death of that old power, and the second was the people realizing what was going on and standing up. Hadonarchs realized what was afoot in the 17th century and put their foot down, all of this could have been avoided.But they were too concerned with their own personal wealth and frivolities, as well as distrust of other europeans to organize and destroy the jew menace that has all but won.

Yet on this board we are trying to restore Europe to its greatness but even here the Jew is sprading his revolutionary philosophy and theology. Hitler lost before he even started because National Socialism was built on the principles of the revolution and not on the foundations of the previous order.

Well, Hitler was no monarch neither he intented to be one.

The sheer amount of dedication you gotta have to simply study and adquire knowledge to rule, i dont think Hitler intended to pass this a child if he had one.

I wonder if it's pure coincidence that the emergence of Jews as a true intellectual group happened at the same time that Europe was beset with "new social values."

The purest of coincidences.

How thins are the fascist middle state might just be necessary. Although I rather skip it as well.

Yes people don't even believe in morality or an order to the universe anymore. They have been unconciously programmed to follow a philosophy/theology of anarchic revolution just like Satan who revolted against Heaven and chose to flee for the abyss.

You guys seem smart. You would have a field day with the scum at /liberty/ then.

Kaiser Wilhelm II was pretty much what you'd call red pilled. He fucking loved Houston Stewart Chamberlain, and in later years went into maximum fuck the kikes mode. He even suggested killing them all off by gas.

I mean the weak link in the German line of command.

Should have STFU and listened to Bismarck.

No, he hated Hitler's program and said that the slaughter of the Jews made him ashamed to be German. That said, he acted against Jewish subversion when he was a monarch, I believe.

Yeah, fair enough. He had some deep flaws and insecurities due to his withered arm but he still tried to avert the catastrophe that was WWI (though he did less to try and stop it than Nicholas II)

Really? Rohl in "The Kaiser and His Court" said that he described the Jews as a pest, best eliminated through gas. Although this was in 1919, so he may have had a change in heart once he saw this actually put into action. In the same work, apparently referring to his abdication, he said it was the "deepest, most disgusting shame ever perpetrated by a person in history, the Germans have done to themselves… egged on and misled by the tribe of Judah … Let no German ever forget this, nor rest until these parasites have been destroyed and exterminated from German soil!"

Hmmm, I'm fairly sure that he had nothing but contempt for Hitler and the Nazis but maybe thats just because they refused to restore the monarchy.

I'll have to read a bit more on it. I'm more familiar with Russia

Oh? Do go on.

He was a bit of a fag for the old aristocracy though, which is no surprise. I don't really like the advocacy of modern feudalism.

/r/ing the interview he had about Hitler circa 1940.

This guy gets it.

Monarchy doesn't mean modern feudalism. This is a meme that needs to die.

Many of the monarchs were actively modernising and improving conditions for the poor in their nations but their efforts were sabotaged by revolutionary nihilists (Jews). Case in point is Alexander II of Russia the "Tsar Liberator" who was assaninated by revolutionaries for his reforms. The Jews were afraid that better conditions would result in a lack of support for revolution which already was lacking support in the God-fearing peasantry and much of the aristocracy.

I wasn't talking about monarchy broadly. I'm quite sympathetic to it and looser "trickle-up" feudalism, actually.

I was talking about Wilhelm specifically, and how I didn't like what he was selling. He pined for the old order of Europe that had died at the hands of things it refused to adapt to. Oh, there was plenty of kikery involved, but I'm of the general opinion that the European system by that time had grown stiff, emaciated, and rotten. It didn't have any sort of noblesse oblige, nor any proper sense of nationalism or freemen.

Wilhelm and his ilk were defenders of the old order, good and bad. They were okay with not having a proper nation so long as they ruled — Wilhelm's dealings with and thoughts on the Jews even (one might say especially) after his dethroning is a good example of this. They viewed admirable things like social unity of classes as aberrations, when, to my view, such thing is a natural extension of the nation and duty, and probably a requisite for noblesse oblige.

He was a bad monarch in a time that needed a really good one.
He was not his father. He was weak and the monarch version spaghetti_out_of_pockets.jpg. He made a lot mistakes in PR.

He and his ministers ignored Bismarck. He let Germany become surrounded by a big alliance that was bound to destroy Germany.

He shackled himself to A-H. That was one of the biggest mistakes. This fuck gave A-H a blank check to cause a World War on multiple front that his country couldn't win.
A-H was a sick power that wanted to stay relevant by igniting a powder keg that destroyed Europe.

He let USA come into the war on the Entente side despite the majority of immigrants being of German descent.

Despite being family to basically every monarch including the Tsar he rushed into war.

He should've courted Russia and the US, to be honest. A US-Germany-Russia alliance would have been undefeatable and the undisputed economic lords of the world.

Yeah, seems like he bears a lot of the blame but I guess there is still plenty to go around eg. the retarded French desperate to get a little revenge and take back alsace-lorraine. They worked hard to drag Russia in as well.

Serbs were the most reasonable in the way they responded to the A-H demands.

rhodesians never die!

This does not void National Socialism at all, and you're reaching for the stars to say this is why the Germans lost. You can see Marxism as an evolutionary pressure that had to force a new and better response from the targets (Europeans), whereas the old order was not enough to stand up to this pressure. This is evolution in action. Pressure can be very good to create something new and better, rather than just stagnating and recycling old ways.

I think Hitler's vision is superior because of one thing in particular: the focus on blood, race, will, and their potential, plus applying the contemporary sciences to furthering it all of it. No previous order had the kind of scope and dream for the future that National Socialism did.

National Socialism is revolutionary, not reactionary.

We have nothing to go back to, we need something new.

The thing is fascism/national socialism needs to happen in order to revert back to the original stability. It's the only thing that has been proven historically to work to get rid of deep rooted commie kike subversion. You can see it as a necessary step towards restoring the old order.

Here is a problem: The Jews set their plans in motion around the same time when Wilhelm made some mistakes. Indication for this is the fall of the Czar. But you can not understand Wilhelm without his Bismarck and his grandfather Wilhelm the First.
Note-worthy: Wilhelm II. father was a mason and most likely he was too.

To break it down … Wilhelm I. was a decent monarch, liked by his Volk and feared for his war. He refused to be Kaiser in the german/france war and consulted Bismarck. He gave his Volk so much needed freedom if i recall correctly. But he was loved … for a reason. So basically everything is fine. (some might argue that the caste of the monarchs was filled with masons)
Bismarck is one of the most prominent figures around Wilhelm II. He was called Iron Chancellor for being conservative-traditional statesmen of Prussia. He was like Littlefinger or Varus from Game of Thrones. He hated the palimentary democracy that infected his country. Some might argue he was from a jewish/russian cabal and some claim this to be … but i didn't see much proof for this. Some also argued he was part of the Masons. But as far as i can tell his action (plausible) tell otherwise. He is the equivalent of Andrew Jackson (for all the burgers here).
So he made 30 years of politic and created a war to unite Germany under one banner - Prussia. He was a masterful tactician in terms of politics by using the establishment to let them make a face-heel-turn. Long story short - he was a master, born in blood, forged in iron and tested by time. To name something remarkable (like Andrew Jackson did) he made so called Anti-Sozialistische Gesetze - anti-social-laws
(German: Sozialistengesetze; officially Gesetz gegen die gemeingefährlichen Bestrebungen der Sozialdemokratie, approximately "Law against the public danger of Social Democratic endeavours")
He saw the danger that Communism opposed. And he basically countered it by giving the people some rights in terms of cutting them some slack, which was brilliant. His politics was focused on the middle-class. And because Germany did so well, nobody would have to starve. It is unknown if this was a plot of Liebknecht to subvert it later on. But let me continue.
So we have Bismarck who was basically winning the Game of Thrones by fucking with the parliment. He gave the people some rights and freedom. But he grew more and more unrepentant. The social-democrats grew even though he basically fucked them. So we have a Iron Chancellor who grew stubborn with the Volk he wanted to protect (from social-democracy) [because he knew that this would end in desaster].
And now we have the son of Friedrich III. a young, not so liberal, more militaristic, more forceful aspirant as the new Emperor of Germany, Wilhelm II. His grandfather was more liberal with his personal politics but let Bismarck handle the not liberal stuff. And we all know that unexperienced people like Wilhelm II. will fall flat. He basically said: "Yo Bismarck homeboy … you r way 2 old for politics … let me handle diz". He said to Bismarck that if he continued to be so stubborn the social democrats would fuck Bismarck over. If he wouldn't accept it by giving the Volk more freedom … he (Bismarck) would lost.

So Bismarck had a dispute with him and they basically made a mess. Wilhelm 2 wanted to be friends with Österreich Ungarn, Bismarck wanted to have an alliance with Russia (which was pretty visionary because as we know - Russian Czars and German Emperor combined against the Bolshevik, would have destroyed the jewish plans). The anti-social laws were reinforced by Bismarck and later "cancelled". As we today know: Social Democracy is a farce. But now Wilhelm does something remarkable … he was not stupid tho … more like a Holla Forumslack. Wilhelm 2 saw it coming … he cancelled the anti-social-laws (which was stupid in the short-run) but gave the social-democrats the space to fuck them over. He refused to acknowledge some rich men and gave the people the right to strike on the rich. And by doing this he basically fucked the social democrats. ''I want to be a Emperor of the poor and simple people. Not of the rich people" he said and basically admitting that the 99 % of Germany are everything to him. So he did a mistake by canceling the anti-social-laws but turned the situation up-side-down by simply making Germany great again. He focused on economy and technology and ensured workplaces for germans. And to be fair … this was the right thing to do in the long run. This also made it much harder for the social-democrats and the communists/anarchists to keep up with the Russians. Which resulted in a much later revolution - and ensuring that Hitler would rise to power.
This was suprisingly smart from Wilhelm 2. He later tried to make an alliance with Russia shortly before the Communist revolution but he just choose poorly. This is the only mistake he ever made. And no one saw that coming.
The Hunnenrede (de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunnenrede) is a fabricated lie btw. he basically said that the German soldiers in China should behave.
And when the WW1 hit in, the only mistake Wilhelm made was to make Germany Navy great again, focusing on economy and preventing something like 1945 from happening by signing Versailles. Hitler said it was Wilhelms fault for not fighting for the bloody end. And to be fair … it wasn't wise. But he said something about GB and monarchy.
During his last year at Doorn, Wilhelm believed that Germany was the land of monarchy and therefore of Christ, and that England was the land of liberalism and therefore of Satan and the Anti-Christ. He argued that the English ruling classes were "Freemasons thoroughly infected by Juda". Wilhelm asserted that the "British people must be liberated from Antichrist Juda.

The problem and the solution to the problem, was the jewish question. They set this mess up for nearly 30 years. The protocols have fullfilled themselfs and proved that it wasn't a fake. Everything else is history. Wilhelm 1 & 2 just like Bismarck and Hitler did nothing wrong … the jews just roll around.

Wilhelm was ousted by a coup de etat by his homosexual chancellor Max von Baden.

based kaiser