So, stormderps, why is it that your beloved President-That-Never-Was Drumpf can shit all over entire demographics he doesn't like because "hurr durr correlation equals causation," but when we enlightened lybyryls point out that the tools the shooter used to commit this hate crime terror attack are just as important as the ideology that made him want to commit it in the first place, you fall back on #NotAllGuntards as a defense?
Well?
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Shit, forgot my Rach. And I told mysylf I wouldn't.
get the fuck out of here, cuckchan.
Oh, and for the record, #FuckIslam and #BanAllReligion. I'm not in favor of Moonslims and their shitty fairy tales, I'm simply pointing out that you muhgunz-ites are quick to blame one demographic and equally quick to excuse another, when both of them have been proven beyond all doubt to be the source of violence and death.
Fuck off learningkike.
Because guns don't kill people, nonwhites do.
Go home.
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And I'm not here from 4/pol/, stormderp. You'd know that if you weren't a summerfriend.
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Did you know that the US would be running a budget surplus if it were composed of only white people?
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because islam has specific commandments and passages that tell people to do violence. Their ideology is intrinsically linked with violence
Gun owners have no such defining ideology or belief system, thus the comparison is invalid.
Sage dyke threads.
You can only talk the talk because you live in an area safe from all the savagery and willing to sacrifice others for your "morality medal".
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yes ma'am
SAGE
You don't have a point
Reported for garbage-tier bait thread
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Guns don't kill people, people kill people. ;^)
If the tools are just as important as the ideology, and liberals want to ban all guns, then clearly they support Trump's ban on Muslims. ;^)
Also:
He doesn't.
Proportionality.
Homosexuality is forbidden under Sharia law, the suggested punishment is death.
Of the ~1.6 billion Muslims on the planet, ~1.2 billion believe Sharia should be the law of the land.
That's 75% of the world Muslims population supporting a system of law, which demands homosexuals be put to death, as the law of the land.
On the other hand…
There are ~30,000 firearm-related deaths in the US each year.
60% of those deaths are due to suicide, leaving ~14,000 non-suicide firearms-related deaths in the US each year.
Thus, of the ~70-106 million firearm owners in the US, AT MOST ~14,000 will employ their firearm to harm another human in any given year.
That's ~0.02% to ~0.01% of US firearm owners who will use their firearm to harm another human in any given year, and that is unquestionably an inflated number.
Proportionality is the answer - and like all progressive liberals, it is beyond your comprehension. ;^)
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America would be better with more guns and worse with more muslims. Saged and reported.
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kill yourself OP, help raise the median IQ of the planet
OR, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD DELETE THE FUCKING THREAD ENTIRELY, MODS. DID YOU FORGET THE DELETE FEATURE EXISTS?
sage goes in every field.
MODS DELETE THIS
clever bait though, almost had me there not
Not sure what the justification was for bumplocking the thread, but at least it can be undone. In the early days of 8/pol/, mods deleted fucking everything for any or no reason, and when anyone protested the action (valid or not), the reaction was always restricted to, "What thread?"
The stormderp proclivity for censorship of others' opinions while simultaneously bawing about the censorship of their own is pretty hilarious though.
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Because the ideology and the motivations should be taken into account, not the tools that the killers used. Muslims are just as apt at killing people with machetes, gasoline, rope and explosives as they are with guns.
Also, kill yourself.
Mass shooters are Democrats though. If you're comparing ideologies then obviously both Democrats and Muslims need to be banned from the US.
I'm glad you support such action.
Now drown yourself in semen.
So, let me see if I get this straight….
Everyone in the nation who owns a gun is responsible for every single shooting.
But the "refugees" that actually SHOOT PEOPLE aren't responsible for any of it… it's the fault of gun owners all over the nation that "Refugees" are shooting people…..
Right?
Yeah, we blame the demographic that's murdering all of the people.
While you blame inanimate objects in another state.
Get ready for some hardcore hatefacts.
Terrorism
ICM Poll: 20% of British Muslims sympathize with 7/7 bombers
telegraph.co.uk
NOP Research: 1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified
cbsnews.com
Channel Four (2006): 31% of younger British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified compared to 14% of those over 45.
policyexchange.org.uk
People-Press: 31% of Turks support suicide attacks against Westerners in Iraq.
people-press.org
YNet: One third of Palestinians (32%) supported the slaughter of a Jewish family, including the children:
pajamasmedia.com
ynetnews.com
World Public Opinion: 61% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans
32% of Indonesians approve of attacks on Americans
41% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on Americans
38% of Moroccans approve of attacks on Americans
83% of Palestinians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (only 14% oppose)
62% of Jordanians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (21% oppose)
42% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (45% oppose)
A minority of Muslims disagreed entirely with terror attacks on Americans:
(Egypt 34%; Indonesia 45%; Pakistan 33%)
About half of those opposed to attacking Americans were sympathetic with al-Qaeda’s attitude toward the U.S.
worldpublicopinion.org
Pew Research (2010): 55% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hezbollah
30% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hezbollah
45% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hezbollah (26% negative)
43% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hezbollah (30% negative)
pewglobal.org
Pew Research (2010): 60% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hamas (34% negative).
49% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hamas (48% negative)
49% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hamas (25% negative)
39% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hamas (33% negative)
pewglobal.org
Pew Research (2010): 15% of Indonesians believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified.
34% of Nigerian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified.
pewglobal.org
16% of young Muslims in Belgium state terrorism is “acceptable”.
Populus Poll (2006): 12% of young Muslims in Britain (and 12% overall) believe that suicide attacks against civilians in Britain can be justified. 1 in 4 support suicide attacks against British troops.
danielpipes.org
Pew Research (2007): 26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified.
35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).
42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).
22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall).
29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall).
pewresearch.org
Pew Research (2011): 8% of Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (81% never).
28% of Egyptian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (38% never).
Pew Research (2007): Muslim-Americans who identify more strongly with their religion are three times more likely to feel that suicide bombings are justified
pewresearch.org
ICM: 5% of Muslims in Britain tell pollsters they would not report a planned Islamic terror attack to authorities.
27% do not support the deportation of Islamic extremists preaching violence and hate.
danielpipes.org
Federation of Student Islamic Societies: About 1 in 5 Muslim students in Britain (18%) would not report a fellow Muslim planning a terror attack.
danielpipes.org
ICM Poll: 25% of British Muslims disagree that a Muslim has an obligation to report terrorists to police.
danielpipes.org
Populus Poll (2006): 16% of British Muslims believe suicide attacks against Israelis are justified.
37% believe Jews in Britain are a “legitimate target”.
danielpipes.org
Pew Research (2013): At least 1 in 4 Muslims do not reject violence against civilians (study did not distinguish between those who believe it is partially justified and never justified).
Pew Research (2013): 15% of Muslims in Turkey support suicide bombings (also 11% in Kosovo, 26% in Malaysia and 26% in Bangladesh).
PCPO (2014): 89% of Palestinians support Hamas and other terrorists firing rockets at Israeli civilians.
jihadwatch.org
Pew Research (2013): Only 57% of Muslims worldwide disapprove of al-Qaeda. Only 51% disapprove of the Taliban. 13% support both groups and 1 in 4 refuse to say.
pewglobal.org
BBC Radio (2015): 45% of British Muslims agree that clerics preaching violence against the West represent “mainstream Islam”.
Palestinian Center for Political Research (2015): 74% of Palestinians support Hamas terror attacks.
timesofisrael.com
Pew Research (2014): 47% of Bangladeshi Muslims says suicide bombings and violence are justified to “defend Islam”. 1 in 4 believed the same in Tanzania and Egypt. 1 in 5 Muslims in the ‘moderate’ countries of Turkey and Malaysia.
pewglobal.org
The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015): 19% of Muslim-Americans say that violence is justified in order to make Sharia the law in the United States (66% disagree).
The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015): 25% of Muslim-Americans say that violence against Americans in the United States is justified as part of the “global Jihad (64% disagree).
The Sun (2015: Following Nov. 2015 attacks in Paris, 1 in 4 young Muslims in Britain (and 1 in 5 overall) said they sympathize with those who fight for ISIS.
See also: wikiislam.net
al-Qaeda, Osama bin Laden and Islamic State (ISIS)
Pew Research (2007): 5% of American Muslims have a favorable view of al-Qaeda (27% can’t make up their minds). Only 58% reject al-Qaeda outright.
pewresearch.org
Pew Research (2011): 5% of American Muslims have a favorable view of al-Qaeda (14% can’t make up their minds).
Pew Research (2011): 1 in 10 native-born Muslim-Americans have a favorable view of al-Qaeda.
al-Jazeera (2006): 49.9% of Muslims polled support Osama bin Laden
partisanlines.com
Pew Research: 59% of Indonesians support Osama bin Laden in 2003
41% of Indonesians support Osama bin Laden in 2007
56% of Jordanians support Osama bin Laden in 2003
forbes.com
Pew Global: 51% of Palestinians support Osama bin Laden
54% of Muslim Nigerians Support Osama bin Laden
pewglobal.org
MacDonald Laurier Institute: 35% of Canadian Muslims would not repudiate al-Qaeda
torontosun.com
World Public Opinion: Muslim majorities agree with the al-Qaeda goal of Islamic law.
Muslim majorities agree with al-Qaeda goal of keeping Western values out of Islamic countries;
(Egypt: 88%; Indonesia 76%; Pakistan 60%; Morocco 64%)
worldpublicopinion.org
ICM Poll: 13% of Muslim in Britain support al-Qaeda attacks on America.
danielpipes.org
World Public Opinion: Attitude toward Osama bin Laden:
Egypt: 44% positive, 17% negative, and 25% mixed feelings
Indonesia: 14% positive, 26% negative, 21% mixed feelings (39% did not answer)
Pakistan: 25% positive, 15% negative, 26% mixed feelings (34% did not answer)
Morocco: 27% positive, 21% negative, 26% mixed feelings
Jordanians, Palestinians, Turks and Azerbaijanis. Jordanians combined for: 27% positive, 20 percent negative, and 27 percent mixed feelings. (Palestinians 56% positive, 20% negative, 22 percent mixed feelings).
worldpublicopinion.org
Pew Research (2010): 49% of Nigerian Muslims have favorable view of al-Qaeda (34% unfavorable)
23% of Indonesians have favorable view of al-Qaeda (56% unfavorable)
34% of Jordanians have favorable view of al-Qaeda
25% of Indonesians have “confidence” in Osama bin Laden (59% had confidence in 2003)
1 in 5 Egyptians have “confidence” in Osama bin Laden
pewglobal.org
Pew Research (2011): 22% of Indonesians have a favorable view of al-Qaeda (21% unfavorable)
Gallup: 51% of Pakistanis grieve Osama bin Laden (only 11% happy over death)
44% of Pakistanis viewed Osama bin Laden as a martyr (only 28% as an oulaw)
americanthinker.com
Zogby International 2011: “Majorities in all six countries said they viewed the United States less favorably following the killing of the Al-Qaeda head [Osama bin Laden] in Pakistan”
Populus Survey: 18% of British Muslims would be proud or indifferent if a family member joined al-Qaeda.
danielpipes.org
Policy Exchange (2006): 7% Muslims in Britain admire al-Qaeda and other terrorist groups.
danielpipes.org
Informal poll of Saudis in August 2014 shows 92% agree that Islamic State (ISIS) “conforms to the values of Islam and Islamic law.”
Hurriyet Daily News / Metropoll (2015): 20% of Turks support the slaughter of Charlie Hebdo staffers and cartoonists.
al-Jazeera Poll (2015): 81% of respondents support the Islamic State (ISIS).
The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015): 33% of Muslim-Americans say al-Qaeda beliefs are Islamic or correct. (49% disagree),
The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015): 38% of Muslim-Americans say Islamic State (ISIS) beliefs are Islamic or correct. (43% disagree),
ICM (Mirror) Poll 2015: 1.5 Million British Muslims support the Islamic State, about half the total population.
mirror.co.uk
Clarion Project Study (2015): 11.5% of Arabs support ISIS, or about 42 million.
clarionproject.org
Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research (2015): Two-thirds of Palestinians support the stabbing of Israeli civilians.
france24.com
Assimilation
Muslims have highest claimed disability rates in the UK (24% of men, 21% of women)
Pakistani Muslims in the UK are four times more likely to be unemployed than Hindus. Indian Muslims are twice as likely to be unemployed as Indian Hindus.
Policy Exchange: 1 in 4 Muslims in the UK have never heard of the Holocaust;
Only 34% of British Muslims believe the Holocaust ever happened.
imaginate.uk.com
civitas.org.uk
Policy Exchange: 51% of British Muslims believe a woman cannot marry a non-Muslim
Only 51% believe a Muslim woman may marry without a guardian’s consent
civitas.org.uk
Policy Exchange: Up to 52% of British Muslims believe a Muslim man is entitled to up to four wives
civitas.org.uk
Policy Exchange: 61% of British Muslims want homosexuality punished
civitas.org.uk
NOP Research: 62% of British Muslims do not believe in the protection of free speech;
Only 3% adopt a “consistently pro-freedom of speech line”
cbsnews.com
ICM Poll: 58% of British Muslims believe insulting Islam should result in criminal prosecution
danielpipes.org
Pew Global (2006): Only 7% of British Muslims think of themselves as British first (81% say 'Muslim’ rather than 'Briton’)
pewglobal.org
Policy Exchange (2006): 31% Muslims in Britain identify more with Muslims in other countries than with non-Muslim Brits.
policyexchange.org.uk
Die Welt (2012): 46% of Muslims in Germany hope there will eventually be more Muslims than Christians in Germany.
Ipsos MORI: Muslims are 3 times as likely as Christians to believe that their religion is the only way.
christiantoday.com
Pew Research (2011): Muslim-Americans four times more likely to say that women should not work outside the home.
people-press.org
Pew Research (2007): 26% of Muslim-Americans want to be distinct (43% support assimilation)
pewresearch.org
Pew Research (2011): 20% of Muslim-Americans want to be distinct (56% support assimilation)
Pew Research (2011): 49% of Muslim-Americans say they are “Muslim first” (26% American first)
Pew Research (2011): 21% of Muslim-Americans say there is a fair to great amount of support for Islamic extremism in their community.
people-press.org
ICM Poll: 11% of British Muslims find violence for political ends acceptable
danielpipes.org
Wenzel Strategies (2012): 58% of Muslim-Americans believe criticism of Islam or Muhammad is not protected free speech under the First Amendment.
45% believe mockers of Islam should face criminal charges (38% said they should not).
12% of Muslim-Americans believe blaspheming Islam should be punishable by death.
43% of Muslim-Americans believe people of other faiths have no right to evangelize Muslims.
32% of Muslims in America believe that Sharia should be the supreme law of the land.
andrewbostom.org
answeringmuslims.com
Pew Research (2013): “At least half’ of Muslims surveyed believed polygamy is morally acceptable.
"Muslims in most countries surveyed say that a wife should always obey her husband.” (including 93% in Indonesia and 65% in Turkey).
Only 32% of Muslims in Indonesia say a woman should have the right to divorce her husband (22% in Egypt, 26% in Pakistan and 60% in Russia).
Die Presse (2013): 1 in 3 Muslims in Austria say it is not possible to be a European and a Muslim. 22% oppose democracy
WZB Berlin Social Science Center: 45% of Muslims in Europe say Jews cannot be trusted.
gatestoneinstitute.org
Vancouver Sun (2015): 42% of Canadian Muslims agree that Islam is “irreconcilable” with the West.
israelnationalnews.com
Anti-Defamation League (2015): 55% of Muslims in Europe are anti-Semitic - approximately three times higher than Europeans in general.
Middle East Forum (2015): Muslims comprise less than 1% of the population in the United States but 9% of prison inmates.
meforum.org
Middle East Forum (2015): Muslims in France comprise 12% of the population, but 70% of prisoners.
washingtonpost.com
Middle East Forum (2015): Muslims in Unit comprise 4% of the population but 11% of prisoners. Muslims in the Netherlands comprise 4% of the population but 20% of prisoners. Muslims in France comprise 10% of the population, but 70% of prisoners.
Gun owners have to go through a process that ensures that they don't go on mass shootings or do anything irrational with their gun.
Muslims say to behead those that insult Islam.
If you picked that gun owners were the problem then you're a stupid fucking ape.
Also before you say "Muslims aren't told to behead anyone"
Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"