Debate Thread

That one does not involve anons debating each other, only posting arguments that support their cause.
Sharpen up your arguments through DEBATE, that is the key word here, there other thread does not involve DEBATE. While i can acknowledge that both threads have the same goal, the means are quite different.

udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/30years/Rushton-Jensen30years.pdf

Knock yourself out fam.
I don't know why you need a peer reviewed study for something that's obvious fucking common sense. Different races are more prone to certain diseases, metabolize alcohol differently, have different skeletal structure, etcetera. Why wouldn't we think differently?

America is a nation of immigrants, why would you deny someone the right to try and better their life by moving to America? This country can only be made better by people who would work so hard to try and get here. The only reason they don't pay taxes is because the government doesn't let them, if they were given citizenship they would gladly contribute this this wonderful country.

If they're willing to assimilate into our culture, speak our language, and use the proper legal channels to get here, then it's fine with me. Just don't fuck any white women. I used to be a lefty cuck like you. I'm not a some hateful, Bible thumping redneck. I just recognized that progressive, liberal values are just a manifestation of cucky weakness.

Although it's true that immigration has been common throughout America's history, this immigration was heavily limited to white Europeans, primarily those from Great Britain and North-Western Europe, and to a lesser extent Eastern and Southern Europe. America was always intended to be a nation made up of white Europeans, and this was how our immigration system was specifically designed right up until it was changed in the 1960's (under the guise that our demographics would remain unchanged) to allow for the flood of immigrants from every racial and ethnic group.

America was founded and built by whites, and was always intended to remain white. Our nation's identity is inseparable from our history and struggle as a race throughout the ages, and our culture is wholly European in nature. A non-white does not share this deeper bond or connection with our race and white identity, and thus their presence is inherently degenerative to the vital racial foundation on which this nation was built. A multiracial "nation" is a complete oxymoron, since a nation draws its very spirit from a unified racial and cultural entity.

It was the white race that built Western Civilization - our culture, our vigor, our unique drive for greatness - and we are the only ones capable of maintaining it. Civilizations draw their strength and spirit from the race, not the other way around.

Maintaining ones nation and ensuring the future viability of your civilization comes hand in hand with preserving the racial integrity of your nation. All foreign races inherently pose a threat to this, and must thus be removed from our nation and returned to their racial homelands.

Hello there, civcuck "nationalist". Read above

Islam is a religion of peace.

Is there a fucking problem with racist bible-thumping rednecks, faggot?

t. Racist bible thumping redneck

Yes, back when America was a primitive shithole where women had no rights and there wasn't electricity or plumbing and everyone was racist. You fail to realize that POC culture is the only way a country can truly progress. Whites hold us back.
America was built by black slaves, they did all the hard work while white sat back and enjoyed the fruits of their labors.
Bullshit, race has nothing to do with culture, which is what a civilization thrive on.

Muslims are literally the only one who blow themselves up.

This would destroy their culture, how could you ask a person to do this? Not to mention the fact that English is not even the official language of America.
It is too difficult for them, the current system is rigged against them.
If a white women chooses to fuck a POC is it not her choice? Do you not support women rights?

I forgot to add that America is made up of a large majority of cultures.

Pretty good m8, I didn't even know that study existed. also
FUCK YOU RACISST SHITLORD CIS WHITE MALE!!!11!1

Do you have any proof of any of this? America was predominantly white in the early 1900's all the way into the 1960's, and during this time we were a global scientific and manufacturing superpower. If you base the quality of a civilization merely on whether women have a vote, then I guess you have to rule out ancient Greece, the Roman Empire, and pretty much every other aspect of Western Civilization that has provided us with so much

Except multiethnic/cultural societies have proven time and time again throughout history to be total failures, and many modern studies prove that the more "diverse" a community is, the less trust it has and the more dysfunctional it becomes. What could "pocs" possibly provide us with that we can't make ourselves in a homogeneous society? What aspects of different non-white cultures are in particular superior to our white culture?

Wrong again. Only 4.8 percent of the entire population in the old South owned slaves. The vast majority of all work done throughout America's history has been by white working men. The only thing slaves ever provided was picking cotton to make rich landowners richer, and this oftentimes put whites out of work, limiting the economy. Owning slaves actually kept back the south from industrializing unlike the North, because the Southern slaves were cheaper than automation or paying fair wages, meaning there was no incentives to improve efficiency. Slaves kept development back, not helped it

Where does culture come from then? Does it float down from the sky and land in people's laps? Different animals have different biologically-determined characteristics that affect their behavior, so why are humans any different? If culture doesn't spring from the genetic group, then where does it come from? You aren't denying evolution, are you?

Nice.

is this a fucking penta-post?

This thread needs to go back.

But those aren't real muslims. Those are people pretending to be muslims to make them all look bad. Real muslims can't kill people. I think you're just racist.

It's called debate motherfucker.

Nah mate. I think your thread is a bit schizo.

an argument is essentially a material conditional. this one is deductively valid:
(if) multiple groups are tribalistic (and)
(if) tribalism is incompatible with meritocracy
(then) multiple groups are incompatible with meritocracy

this one is also deductively valid:
(if) the holocaust is real
(then) the holocaust is real
while technically an argument, it isn't convincing.

inductively valid arguments are inferred. it's a matter of probability. this one is inductively weak to strong:
(if) dindus dindu nuffin
(if) dindus du mo dinduing nuffins
etc…
(den) dindus aways dindu nuffin muhfugga

HOW TO DEBATE A WHITE LEFTIST

You: What do blacks call a black guy who works against black interests?

White leftist: bla bla bla

You: I have it on the tip of my tongue but I can't remember. Like there's a black guy, right? And he is working against black interests, right? What do other blacks call him?

White leftist: bla bla bla

You: Wait! I remember: A TRAITOR. That's it, that's it. Thank you for helping me remember!

White leftist: bla bla bla

You: Hold on! There's this other question that’s been bothering me. You know Mexicans? Do you know what Mexicans call a Mexican guy who works against Mexican interests?

White leftist: bla bla bla

You: Like, I’ve been trying to figure it out all day. I mean you have this Mexican, right? And he is working against Mexican interests, right? And there is this word Mexicans use to describe him. Do you know what that is?

White leftist: bla bla bla

You: What could that word be? I mean what would a Mexican guy call a Mexican who works against Mexican interests? Do you have any ideas?

White leftist: bla bla bla

You: Like, any ideas? How about brainstorming this? I’ve been trying to figure it out all day but it’s so mentally challenging. You look like a smart guy.

White leftist: bla bla bla

You: Let’s think really hard because we really need to concentrate on this. So you have a Mexican guy. Ok? That’s the first part of the enigma. And this Mexican guy works against Mexican interests. That’s the second part ok? You with me? What do other Mexicans call him?

White leftist: bla bla bla

You: Wait! Hold on! I’m feeling inspired! Wait! Hold on a sec! I think I got it.. That’s it! I figured it out! They call him A TRAITOR!

White leftist: bla bla bla

You: Man that was hard. My brain almost melted. Thanks for helping me figure it out. You know, there’s this other mystery that’s been bothering me for years. Since we’re on such a winning streak maybe you can help me with it as well. Like, there’s this hispanic, right? And this hispanic is working against hispanic interests. Now, the big question, the one that has me totally stumped, is.. what do other hispanics call him?

White leftist: bla bla bla

You: I mean look. There’s this hispanic who works against hispanic interests. Ok? You with me? What do other hispanics call him? Really, it’s important. I’ve been struggling with this one for years. Decades even.

White leftist: bla bla bla

You: I mean what it could it possibly be? What words would a hispanic use to describe another hispanic who works against hispanic interests. This is a really tricky one. Any ideas?

White leftist: bla bla bla

You: Damn this is worse than quantum physics. One has to really concentrate, like, seriously concentrate. This is so hard to figure out it’s crazy. Can you help out?

White leftist: bla bla bla

You: Wait let me assume the intellectual position. It helps. I’ll stretch out my right arm and look at the horizon like Lenin does in his statues. Like this. Look. Now I’ll concentrate hard.

White leftist: bla bla bla

You: Hold on I’m thinking hard here. I’m in the Lenin position, look. Ok, it’s coming. Hang on. Almost there. Wait. It’s coming. Inspiration, it’s coming. That’s right! I got it! The Lenin advanced thought position does it again! Here’s the answer: They call him A TRAITOR.

White leftist: bla bla bla

You: Bet you didn’t see that coming! Finally an answer to this question that’s been bothering me for so long. Anyway you look like a really smart guy. Maybe you can help me with another question. You know Chinese? Now imagine there’s this Chinese guy who works against Chinese interests. Can you imagine it?

White leftist: bla bla bla

You: Now what do you think other Chinese would call this guy?

…

Keep going, ad infinitum. Anything they say is bla bla to be ignored. Keeping hammering them with the definition of traitor. Never call them that or the fun stops, just imply, imply, imply and then imply again.

This skit is designed for use in public shouting matches. Super easy to remember your lines no matter how nervous you are because it’s really only one line. Also a great fallback argument when stumped. The funnier you make it the more devastating it is.

Remember: leftists are rhetorical thinkers. Dialectical arguments are useless with them. Do not try to explain anything. The only thing that works with leftists is rhetoric. Ridicule, insult and ostracize. That’s the only thing they understand.

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asking questions is useful. it causes the arguer to justify claims, question himself, and ultimately deradicalize. when sufficient doubt of themselves is cast, they're left more open to argument.
you're not perceived as assertive, so it's a good way to begin.

there's much that requires justification here because there are literally no arguments: only propositions.
how do you define rights?
are some rights earned?
were those rights upheld by men?
how do you define racism?
can you prove this?
what is POC culture?
progress to what?
how?
was there nothing in america before black slaves arrived?
if america was build by black slaves, they must have been very well educated. were they?
and where would this education have come from?
what type of work did the black slaves do, and is this the only kind of work there was to be done?
didn't a certain very poor demographic of whites not like how the slaves were being treated better than them, and thus pressure slave owners to not treat them as well?
what percentage of white owned slaves?
what did the other whites do for money?
what america a communist paradise?
what is your definition of culture?
how come races have different cultures?
why can cats no do math? just like humans, they have a mind and body. is their physical difference from man responsible for the differences in minds?
do different subspecies of animals not behave differently? is it cultural?
do they have a culture? is it strictly cultural or a mix?
who forms the culture?

etc… of course incessant questioning can raise eyebrows, but i've found it to be very useful.

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kek. You sure earned your shekels today, Schlomo.