ITT we discuss Guns in the USA

ITT we discuss Guns in the USA

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I don't know why that sounds cool but it does

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Buddhists monks don't fuck around.

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Thanks, good convo. And thanks OP for attempting to Correct The Record!

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Replace gun with nigger.

Dysnomia, you need to do something about this Correct the Record shitposting, because CtR cunts like OP are ruining Holla Forums.

You may think the extra traffic is good, but it's not good that this place is getting SJW cancer. If assholes like this CtR cunt mess with the board much more, anons will go some place else and you'll be left with another cuckchan Holla Forums full of bot-posted trap threads and spammers.

OP, you nigger-spic-kike-fag-whore, I'm going to make sure I re-visit the Holla Forums threads where they post the personal information of you CTR bitches. You're getting a couple thousand letters and calls in the near future asking you if you sell Battletoads, you cunt.

Too many.


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I love guns 🔫. op should kill himself with a 🔪 knife.

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From my cold dead hands!

Throughout history it has always been those in power that want to disarm the population, they have done this many ways with the most recent being to convince much of the population that they should help disarm the rest.

People always like to act like the US has the loosest gun laws when in reality Sweden and New Zealand have looser laws, no one uses them as examples because despite having guns they don't have much crime.
I think this is due to them having much less wealth disparity than the US, globally there is a much stranger correlation between wealth disparity and crime than between gun ownership and crime.

Now do you think those that own the media and pay for presidential champagnes would rather reduce wealth disparity or blame guns?

You're embarking with your family to the west onna prarie schooner, what gun will you use to defend your family from indiands, wild beasts, and bandits?

Just to test the hypothesis that owning guns make you safer by reducing crime, how about we issue a state funded firearm and a box of ammo to every single adult living in the US. They could be required to carry in public and have a loaded weapon available at home/work/ at all times.
Surely, this will lead to a low crime society and if it doesn't, we can upgrade the firearms to full auto.

They're going to need training on the 4 commandments of safety, and how to hit the broad side of a barn.

oh dear. irony isn't your strong suit, is it?
most americans are bigger targets than two barns anyway. you can't miss if you know which end the bullets exit. safety training would just skew the game in favor of jews. a 30mm cannon on every car hood is the answer. the more bang we get for our bucks, the safer our streets will become. it's in the third amendment.

its shitskins you fucking lolberg cuck

oh by discuss you mean one side tells its point and the other side listens to it, gets mad and shouts at the first side, but no mater what any side says or does no side will ever take on something the other side says?
what a complete waste of time

No shit but if they weren't poor they wouldn't be shooting eachother over shoes.
they are poor because a culture of retardation has infested the American nigger

There was war before there were guns
There was murder before there were guns
Guns just make these things more efficient
It's called "progress".

You are progressive, aren't you OP?

I like guns. I love being able to acquire guns easily, cheaply, and without much hastle. I would absolutely love if there was an even wider selection of guns on the market, from many different brands and countries, for all different purposes and budgets. I wish there were even fewer legal obstacles to acquiring weapons and ammunition in general.

I couldn't possibly care less how many Chicago/Detroit niggers shoot each other, and I feel nothing but scorn when I see cunts crying on tv whining about muh oppressive, white males with scary, evil guns and demanding that I turn them in and apologize for being who and what I am.

I live in eastern Kentucky. The only "gun crimes" around here are accidents (it isn't my problem if some people don't know how to handle a firearm), suicides (if people have had enough of living, they at least deserve the right to end it in the most direct way possible), crazed drugfags shooting each other at night in a meth-addled haze (I avoid these people, so no problem for me), and niggers and wiggers in Lexington (which I only visit for a few hours once every other month or so, so again, no issue for me).

That's about all I have to say about guns in America, tbh.

quite possibly, the best emem ever conceived

We have retarded law enforcement that can't catch criminals with guns or stop the illegal gun trade but they are more than happy to take guns from law abiding people not causing shit.

The thing is… you can't stop a big mac with a big mac (except in that you maybe can't physically fit two big macs in your mouth at the same time).
You can't stop cancer cells by spawning bigger, better cancer cells near them to overtake them.

You CAN stop a criminal with a gun by shooting him.

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.

WELL REGULATED MILITIA

BLM protesters blockade the highway and approach your car. One of them has a gun. Is this a gun problem or a nigger problem?

You see a white person carrying a gun in the grocery store. Is this a gun problem or a whitey problem? (A: Not any kind of problem. White people handle guns responsibly.)

Fuck off. No they don't.

Easy. If I am accosted by bear or Injun I will send word back to Missouri to alert the Marshall

Fuck off kike

The militia is the military you fucking spazz. 2nd amendment makes a distinction between the militia and the people.

Hahah you retard. See
sightm1911.com/lib/rkba/ff_militia.htm

might actually work.
Important thing to remember is that no one is the same. There are people who don't like fatty shit that don't want to gorge themselves on food and people that don't like smoking that don't smoke so they won't be affected by these changes. Likewise, there are people who aren't violent criminals who won't get shot by police or armed civilians defending themselves.
The result in every case is the death of the people who perpetuate the problems with obesity, smoking, and gun violence.

yeah! "the people" means something completely different in the second amendment from all the other places in the constitution. Fucktard.

They're not going to fucking specify that the military is allowed to have guns dipshit. It's implied. Besides they cover the actual military later in the constitution.

The Bill of Rights explicitly lays out inherent rights of the population. Every single amendment pertains to individual rights that can not be taken away. Why the hell would they throw in a clause pertaining to the federal government for the SECOND amendment in their grand document that was going to be the bedrock of a new nation?

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,"
That implicitly covers the right of a state to maintain a defense force. IE the National Guard.
" the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
This specifically says the people so not the State militias or standing army. It means everyday citizens.

The Second Amendment gave every US citizen the individual right to bear arms (i.e. the implements of war: guns, tanks, missiles, nuclear bombs, etc.) so that citizens would come pre-armed and pre-trained in those arms when a militia was raised (as, in those days, raising a militia was a common means of defending a nation). It is a means to save the Congress money in defending the state.

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Alright gunners, am I crazy here? I'm grey. I keep linking the Europeans to data proving my points about guns when they ask for it, but then they just turn around and ignore it saying "I believe guns create violence". It's like yelling at a rubber wall.

we should have less of them and more restrictions on them

btw: I am an american in the south and own multiple firearms

why?

No one but me should be allowed to have guns. As citizens, if you see someone with an illegal gun (anyone but me with a gun) you are to disarm them and shoot them for having a gun. Then shoot yourself for now having a gun.

God bless you, and God bless the United States of America.

Not saying the rest are wrong, but the fourth picture is pretty weak. The number wobbles around a bunch and tt one point drops below pre-ban levels. If this graph was the only thing you showed me I'd say it was inconclusive as fuck.

Did you mean to quote

Because I agree it's a shitty graph and I don't know why I saved that one. Especially since it's not sourced.

In Sweden every male that has completed conscription is required to keep an assault rifle in their house. Not some media bullshit "assault weapon" but a select fire rifle chambered in an intermediate cartridge aka assault rifle.

As for NZ it's harder for them to get pistols but they don't have to worry about and import / ammo or caliber bans. Unlike the US there is no 0.5 inch limit on rifles.

whats with these cartoons and dramatic oversimplification of issues and blatant strawmen? shitty art too.

You're right OP, we need more government regulation to stop people from making bad decisions. Fuck freedom. Only the state knows what's good for the people. Citizens aren't responsible enough to make there own life decisions.

We should illegalize nicotine. It could make you sick. We shouldn't give people the right to make themselves sick! I mean you'd have to be an idiot to argue against that. We might as well illegalize alcohol too. That's bad and stuff.

The state should take responsibility for obesity, by seizing people's rights to eat bad food! We should illegalize transfats. Also sodas over 8 ounces. Actually screatch that no soda for anyone. What would stop people from getting more than one 8 ounce sodas! No sugar. For anyone. You know what? What would stop anyone from eating too much? We need to regulate meals. The government should distribute healthy portions of healthy foods to everyone, and all other food should be illegalized.

Free speech is bad, because then people can spread bad thoughts, and talk about evil food and guns! We should make all speech illegal, because people could do themselves harm!

They can't be trusted.

I'll own guns because I want them. Even if everyone else in the world gives up theirs, I will keep mine. Even if they're made illegal, I'll still keep mine.

I don't give a shit who gets killed, your deaths are not my problem, concern, or responsibility.

What ABOUT your stupid dead kids? If you send your kids to public school in the first place it's your own damn fault if they get shot. Trusting the state to take care of your kids because you're too damn lazy and incompetent to do it yourself. Like leaving your kid out in the forest with a wolf and expecting nothing bad to happen. Dumbases.

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Holla Forums in a gun control thread:

Holla Forums in literally any other therad:

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Its just a piece of meaningless paper. There's plenty off good, rational, practical, relevant reasons for not letting people who have a vested economic interest in your weakness take away your strength and your weapons. The words of dead slave owners is not one of those arguments, its worth less than shit.

A warm gun will protect and define my fucking rights better than any outdated nonsense useful only as a primary source for a high school essay.

what a load of shit you talk, turdbrain. you're angry at yourself for being a fat failure, ok, but comparing school with a wolf in a forest is, well, laughable.

Holy shit the edge.

The government has a lot of fucking power and it's because laws and restrictions on that power exist that you're able to obtain a gun in the first place. If the government wanted to take your gun away, the worst you could do to them is shoot a few of them and then die.

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Why is it that Holla Forums can never understand the very simple points people make in their posts, and have to have it explaiend to them like they're a 13 years old child?

Oh shit, answered my own question didn't I?

My point wasn't "submit to big government unquestioningly." It was "having actual codified laws that protect your rights gives you way greater collective bargaining power than a single gun."

You are demonstrating sub-negro intelligence if you interpreted that statement any other way.

what is edgy about pointing out that the constitution was written by long dead, syphilitic slave owners so detatched from modern reality that they carried a sword into battle? nothing

They're fun.

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Any of my fellow /k/ikes here have those screencaps? You know which ones.

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What's to stop the government from throwing away those laws?

You stupid fucking mongoloid.

Citizens need to be able to fight against the government, at least theoretically as a basic part of the checks and balances system.

If you cannot understand that you are tok stupid to be allowed to live outside of an institution.

It's either 4cucks or CTR faggots.
Ever since the election really began heating up there has been an incredibly suspicious increase in anti-fun posts.

Retards will try to blame Holla Forums but they're always talking about armed revolutions and other shit.

It's a philosophy, you stupid pseudo-intellectual cunt. Plato's treatises are no less valid because it's current year, the Constitution is no different, just because you're too much of a brainwashed edgy liberal to see that doesn't make it any less true.

Go back to watching South Park and talking about how clever and poignant it is, kiddo.

But Holla Forums is full of more contradictions than Holla Forums who are anti-government fascist big government socialist libertarian Christian frog-worshippers. So it wouldn't surprise me if Holla Forums was behind some of it.

You have no fucking clue what you're talking about kid

Its been done before my man. People would die, sure, but some things are worth dying for.

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Remember that if you don't prep him (them, probably, muds like to rape in packs) before they go to town on your wife, you'll be imprisoned for hate crimes.

Absolutely wrong. The military is the military and the militia is the militia, you retard.

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."

George Mason, Founding Father, 1788.

Time to talk about guns in europe. Because millions upon millions of Mohammads and Jamals are invading them, their murder rate is skyrocketing. Eurabians are starting to learn why Americans need guns. Unfortunately they are learning that lesson the hard way. After it’s far too late.

This.

Many states maintain a private state military, alongside the National Guard, and if you're a southern state, some even fund private militia's, including paying for training and equipment.

Texas is an example of a state with a fuck huge National Guard (bigger than most European nations), a decent sized State Military, and a shit load of private militia's, some of which reserve state support and funding.

How do we get gun rights in Europe from the same leftist political establishment who facilitated the invasion?

Gonna need a few citations on that. I grew up in Alabama and Texas, grew up shooting guns, got lots of friends and family who are shooters/cops/staties, etc. I've never heard of states maintaining "private armies" or funding training and equipment for civilian militias. I'm willing to be proven wrong if you have links.

I think he means that in the statutes, the governor has the authority to call up a state militia in certain situations. But no, none of them are standing armies like the National Guards.

That's not what he said at all, though. He said:

Europeans in their vast majority don't want guns except for hunting.
We have no need, living as we do in a peaceful and properly policed society where guncrime is extremely rare.
You burgers need guns. You'd be a fool not to have several big ones, living as you do in a gun saturated hellhole where you need 24/7 protection from your heavily armed and extremely violent fellow citizens.

are you going to scream for the police when Achmed decides he wants a piece of your Eurotrash ass?

And all of that peace and order is dwindling by the day as the mudslide pours into your countries.

Your murder rates say otherwise.

He'll be too busy moaning into his pillow to call for the police.

That's no good, user. Have a more current one.

You do now.

Other than that graph with no scale number descriptors this pretty much sums it up. Especially that first one. People act like guns are such a big fucking deal. But virtually all country's that ban guns see a rise in violence that far offsets the benefit of keeping the odd school from being shot up. Not to mention the liberty argument.

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You're right these discussions never fucking end but i was drawn in. Thank's bro.

you burgers seem more afraid for europe than europeans are for themselves. these sandniggers frighten nobody in europe except the far-right and sundry other women. there are a few of them who not only wear sandals in the winter but also have a 30 year old ak and some 1970's ammo. they are dangerous, which is why we have shot them all the second they start making a noise. there is nothing to be afraid of. they will be our laborious class for years to come.

kk

t. soccer mom

Enjoy your dead kids faggot

Good for Americans. Bad for europeans.


Muslim savages with old Kalashnikovs will beat feminized europeans with spoons and baguettes any day of the week.


Shot them after they commit mass murder.


The delusional words of a civilization going into complete collapse. You actually believe in a muslim rapefugee based economy. Sad.

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Americans are the biggest pussies in the word. Oh, they talk big, with all their gun talk. The government is corrupt as fuck. The fore founders would have gone to Washington with their guns and took care of business.

well said

Slaves cannot own guns. That is at its core the most important tenant of being a slave.

I do not wish to be a slave

this
guns are no different than swords were 300+ years ago
serfs were usually forbidden all weapons that were not for hunting/farming
and we know that hunting was often banned too

Lol, you mean they would have paid some poor sods to go out there and siege a fort in their name. All of them were rich pussies or shitty military guys, it was the people who did all the work, the every day harry built america not these old queers.

Stop lying using green text. You have no argument whatsoever. Pathetic.

Yeah that right there shows the level of insight the author has.

SHALL

Oh Yeah? Tell that to the Swiss whose gun ownership is second only to 'murica, they also have one of the lowest amounts of crime in Europe and they can own fully automatic babby killing SALT raifus. Then take a look at whatever Muslim shithole you live in where guns are banned and your family is getting raped in the street by Ahmed.

NOT

bullseye nonetheless, donkey.

Not any worse than having a (((government))) that is actively genociding you and not being able to defend yourself even if you wanted to.

swiss men of militarly useful age are required to keep their personal weapon at home. if you substract those govt. imposed weapons, the picture changes dramatically. this is what you'd expect from a country who was last at war before america became a thing. how dishonest can you get, huh?

Yeah, I'm being so dishonest, everywhere in Europe is just like the UK where you need to be 18 to buy a butter knife.

Laws don't stop criminals from committing crime.

Therefore, creating a law to stop people from owning guns will stop criminals from owning guns.

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Yes goy, this is why Brazil and Honduras are completely crime free!

smhfamtbh you're supposed to fart with your ass

Yeah ok retard, try telling me what part of that statement is incorrect…Oh wait you can't fucking read!

in the us it's too late for that kind of logic. gunz are the norm. it's very different in a society where you just don't encounter guns at all. the us is stuck with guns and guncrime, europe isn't. keep your guns, burgers, and your constitutional amendments too. stick both up our ass and defend yourself from niggers and washington. europe doesn't want to be like the us, no wait, europe wants to not be like the us. put down your diet coke and use what brain you have for a second…what's so difficult to understand?

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Sshh they have short term memory and forget that their Continent turns into a bloodbath every 50 years or so.

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Are these really all the same guys? Mudslimes are so inbred I have trouble telling them apart.

Europe is a fucking joke.

Outlaw muslims. Not guns.

His comment was satire - which was why the first part disagreed with the second

Guns are good. Guns are here to stay. Discussed.

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you literally dont even realize how recent europes gun bans are or how many criminals and politicians own guns
right?
(tfw bait and i took it)

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