Where the power really lies

I'm gonna state it frankly: there's a line between positive and enthusiastic support for a presidential candidate, and fanatic and unrealistic dick-sucking.

When it comes to Trump, some people seem to cross that line. The idea that Trump's victory would usher in some new age of the USA is frankly delusional; we all know from past experience how little influence the president really has.

It's not just the fact that he's caught in a 3-way power struggle with the Senate and the Supreme Court, but consider the fact that we all know that big corporations and other interests really call the shots. Even with the best intentions, what difference can a president really make, when he is faced with the society of today?

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Influence over the people, and what difference can the people of an entire nation make?

I like the whole fanatic part even if I think it's dumb.

Oy vey it's hopeless goy
don't vote

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Trumps coattails will bring in more Rs in Senate and house and he immediately has one supreme court pick and probably a few more soon after that. So, a man of Trump's character with a majority in both house and supremes, you will see some sweeping changes.

Your concern is noted. Don't let the door hit you in the way out.

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All trump does is open the dialog for nationalism and he might build a wall which would be great.

This is a culture war and not really about who get's to sit on the throne for the next few years.

Why wno't you name those people so that we can discuss their behaviour?

They invented this thing called an executive order.
There's also this revolutionary thing: bargaining, persuasion from a position of influence, talking, negotiation.

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It's about shifting the narrative, I don't believe even the dumbest of Yanks think Trump is going to be Adolf 2.0.

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I care less about him doing something worthwhile than I care about the mass red-pilling/awakening of people in US. Trump has done a fantastic job in spreading nationalism rather than pandering to the liberal demographics. If anything, I prefer he loses the race by foul play so that maybe citizens will see how fucked/rigged everything is.

You lot, obviously.

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Elections are usually pretty insignificant.

But the Presidential Elections of 2016 will go down in history. Why? Because Trump isn't just a politician or even a man anymore.
He's become the rallying cry of the old America, of the white America. In universities, workplaces and in general public places, Trump has become the adversary of almost everything that can be considered cultural marxism.
Immigration, political correctness, equality of outcome, being a loser. Trump is the antithesis of all those things.

Election won't result in any earth shattering policy changes in the government. But the social and cultural shift spurred by his campaign and eventual victory can change the very core of America. For the better.

And that's the best thing we can hope for right now.

See?
This thread shows it again.
You can't even criticize trump without a horde of rabid fanboys calling you a shill or whatever.
Vote for him, by all means, he's the best candidate you have. But nothing more.

You sound like tons of fun.

Nice ad hominem friend.

Be sure to tell me how Trump will nuke Israel and fund RWDS

Aww man you're right. Guess I'll just wait for Hitler then.

The funny thing is that even Hitler didn't do that, so you're not even telling me to wait for Hitler. You're telling me to wait for Giga-Hitler.

I'm telling you that most of Holla Forums has completely unrealistic expectations of Trump's presidency.

Stoopid heretic! Trump is a signpost, not the destination.

I mean, you and your "totally-not-shitposter" buddies seem to be the only people under the impression that people think Trump is going to kill each and every Jew.
Nice that you can post in this thread between spamming other threads with the same "Trump loves Israel" images.

Sure, everyone who doesn't agree is a shill.
It's just me and one other guy who disagrees.
Got it

I'm glad you admit it.
Perhaps you can work on bettering yourself.

enough to justify supporting him.

yeah, sure thing schlomo

They know Clinton is going to be destroyed and this is how their version of "acceptance" manifests itself.

Mr. Almost trips.
Trump will win in a landslide against Kikelary.
And that gives him ENORMOUS political capital.
He will have the whole nation behind him that elected him on the policy of an outsider and reformer. And the people are the USA.
You think that a bunch of old farts in the supreme court or senate will be able to resist that?
Nope.
IF you look how he's using the social media against his opponents then you can be sure that he will use it against the government that he will be battling against.

A president is a negotiator and a diplomat who uses charisma to get his agenda through.
If you haven't been paying attention Trump is a grandmaster at that.
Have no worries.

Trump is redefining conservationism in a controlled way. After the 2012 election with Ron Paul's followers, it was realized that the powers that be couldn't let them rally under someone unsavory. Trump filled that niche fantastically as an actor, despite being a Democrat Jew Yorker his entire life.

The big questions are, whether Trump goes to war in the middle east again and whether he expands on surveillance. As of right now, he's doing both given what he's said.

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it's been a while since you've posted here Liz, did you apply for food stamps yet?

This tbh.

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You mean the kikes, leftyfaggot?

Neo/pol/ is goddamn pathetic.

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Nobody except LARPING morons thinks Trump will actually change much on his own. Even though he hasn't yet changed one policy, he has affected the public consciousness in a YUGE way. The fact that he has the balls to point out all the problems with the current system and call people out is unheard of. Just by being in the race he has started a nationalistic movement that hasn't been seen in decades.

This is one of the most retarded posts I've seen on this site.

Trump is the path, not the destination.

checked, you'll never explain why though

I'm gonna state it frankly: check em you cock gobbling faggot

And not just in America, given how tightly the US-based (((media conglomerates))) have wound their control around the entire west's public discourse it's spreading worldwide. The dumb fucks have been spreading news of Trump everywhere while continually calling him a racist and so on. But since they're kikes, they flatly cannot understand that to the average white no matter where they may be, the image of a proud, successful white man getting attacked from all sides by the pit of vipers known as the media, but then not only NOT apologizing but instead doubling down - and actually winning an election on this platform…

Something begins to stir within the Aryan spirit. Something long dormant and all but forgotten, something heavily suppressed that the kikes have been trying to exterminate for as long as anyone can remember.

The dimming embers spark to life once more.

The consuming flame begins to burn.

The fire rises.

Reminder that most of Holla Forums know that Trump is most likely controlled to a degree

Reminder that most of the fanatical support of Trump online is done by LARPers that have concerns about a Trump presedency


And if this is a d&c shill, fuck you

And what's your argument for not knowing who is handlers are?

If he has handlers than what happens during his presidency will confirm all of this, and we'll move on from there. Currently it is only him or Hillary, there are no feasible alternatives. Holla Forums is just along for the ride, so shilling against Trump is pointless, which is why only a paid shill would be wasting their time.

So if kikes run everything, how did Trump get through their defenses?

This.
Even the normie whites are waking up, their tribal instincts are waking up.
They see they are targeted for extermination.
IMO the reason why Trump is so successful is that he isn't lowering himself on their level. He just speaks the truth and tries to emphasize that the opponents are lying. And people recognize and like that.

Kikes have simply overused and overheated their MSM machine. They are not being subtle since 2010 and people simply don't believe them.

Plus numerous children tales talk about heroes battling with evil dragons. People are programmed to stand behind a powerful male.

They don't run everything, it's more that their mechanisms exist to prune anything that goes against their interests. You can run your company just fine and they'll let you be - so long as you play along with their kosher interests and echo The Narrative as and when required of you.

Go get a pen and a phone op, then go shove them up your ass.

So again, Trump has been hobnobbing with them his whole career, voted for their favor, and is now suddenly free of their clammy tentacles?
All while people rave about lying politicians furthering their own ends?

Essentially what I'm not getting ehre is that if Kikes rule all, which is substantiated, then Trump can't be going this far without pay offs and falling apart.

If Trump is his own (highly unsubstantiated and most likely false to a reasonable doubt) then kikes don't run everything and Holla Forums has been deathly wrong.

So in the order of things, Trump being a good goy is the answer, particularly with his switching to champion Mexicans, Israel loving and so on.
He played to one crowd to get the nomination, now is reverting to his natural self.
This makes even more sense when you point him as a business man.
You don't piss off over half your client base when you can snag them and use them.


Trump isn't that successful though, he's been consistently favored by existing Republican numbers.
That's the thing, the numbers have been constant for the better part of a decade at 46%, and Trump is hovering around there with a 3 percent spread depending on month.

Same for Hillary, there hasn't been new growth for a long time due to political heredity.

Also to add, it's because they're fucking dumb. Presently they're going into overdrive calling Trump racist (again lol) because he said a Mexican judge was biased against him. The problem is, literally nobody, not even shitlibs deep down think that he's wrong, everyone thinks this spic probably is biased as hell. Trump hasn't even brought up La Raza both because he knows others will do it for him, but also that he wants to break the media narrative itself and is deliberately choosing the harder path in order to normalize the idea that race itself can influence the behaviour of non-whites. And it's working.

How is the judge Mexican?
That's like me saying I'm a hispanic kike.
Complete non sequitur that only works over division politics and assuming nationalities persist only when convenient to saying so.

That would leave Trump as not being American as well to say the judge is Mexican, thus precluding a Trump presidency and bringing his loyalty into question.

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You're not very good at shilling tbh Schlomo, you should probably ask your manager to dock you for incompetence.

Who the hell else is going to protect our ally in the middle east?

A vote for Trump is a token of friendship between us and fellow Holla Forumsacks (of the jewish persuasion). Jews are actually alright once you have dealings with them. I can't be alone in thinking that a rising majority here are finally learning that the real enemy is liberals, not jews.

1. He was born to two Mexican's illegally in America, and thus was an anchor baby.

2. He belongs to the San Diego La Raza Lawyers Association

3. La Raza is a Mexican nationalist organization

Gonzalo Curiel's loyalties clearly lie with Mexican's and illegals. There's no argument about it.

If you asked him unofficially, he would self-identify as Mexican.

Wait I thought his parents were last mexican in the 1800s?

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Do you COnstitution bro?

And we identify as national socialist with the intent of overthrowing the government in an overt form and replacing it with our own, with many advocating harm to various leaders and others.

Not really American there either.

But really, what's the directed conflict?
As I understand Trump U is guilty of the charges,and the judge has been here long enough.

On the other hand I am also reading of a couple dozen other cases, so I may just be mixing everything together in a horrible form.

so it's concern trolling today, is it?

You can stuff your 14th amendment up your arse.

He doesn't look like a white, property owning man to me.

Stef did some solid research on the subject, I recommend you watch vid related as it clearly points out the potential biases of Curiel.
It also puts doubt on his parents' citizenship statuses.

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If you're not of European descent, then no, you really aren't American

Too bad them's the breaks, maybe not endorsing and then losing a civil war that sets up a new government in place of the old next time?

As always, you're welcome to try again or leave and knock over Sealand or Oceania.

FF also were not American either, being British traitors saved by the French and opposing the glorious Germans.
Much less making peace with morocans and praising Islam as being a great and peaceful religion while dealing with the Barbary states.

Upon them I spit and am pleased they rot in Sheoul for their deist principles.


Also,

Spanish stuck their dick in everything and made way too many count by that.

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sage goes in one field you nigger.

Trump could be a sellout in the end. But look at the alternative.

Id rather go with someone I can still give the benefit of the doubt to over someone that's an obvious crook.

Would you eat a literal shit sandwich or a sandwich that MIGHT have some shit on it?

That's a way to explain Trump. He may be anything, but he isn't NECESSARILY shit. Hillary IS necessarily shit.

That isn't what makes one American. Do you read the constitution? An American is a natural born citizen. He's not as his parents had beliefs and ties held to Mexico.

The president has as much power as he himself is able to wield with the position. A long line of weak presidents with no vision (read: puppets) has left us with the illusion that the presidency holds little actual power. Also this

Born in the US is what counts, else you wouldn't have had any prerevolutionary much less Confederation era people be American.

obama has fucked the constitution and congress a good few times, so presidents can do a lot obviosly.
Now fuck off and kill yourself you cunt.

Trump or die

The culture change is already a huge vicotry and even if Trump loses the presidency we have already scored a major victory in that regard, and honestly the conditions are ripe for an authoritative dictator to take power, I doubt it will happen, but for the US it has never been more possible.


This


Tump is a 3rd position populist, the closest to a natsoc that we will get

Nah, Trump is bluepilled.

Not even, he's just a paleocon/80's republican

It's confirmed you don't constitution.

That corner case is covered in the constitution.

Retard.

Concern-trolling this hard

Hot damn.

I see you've been listening to Shapiro. Conservatism has failed us, it cannot keep up with the left's underhanded tactics. They must be destroyed, some liberties are temporarily forfeit in times of total war.


Also Mexican isn't a race. If it was a second generation Israeli judge with overt ties to Israeli nationalist groups trying a candidate that overly supports Palestine on a nationally recognized level, you can bet there would be conflict.

Trump is nothing important the praise he receives is ridicules I'm glad he has reopened old issues though.

this would not have happened on MSNBC ever, without Trump.

This trump working up a good portion of the country into a frenzy and the loosing would be good for nationalism. It would push people further to radiclization.

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Nationalism was big in europe without trump

This too. This is the element Ben Shapiro is missing, he has his culture blinders on because he gets trolled by Holla Forums on Twitter. He can't see the cultural benefit because muh alt right nadsis! He's judging entirely on policy, which is secondary. Also he doesn't seem to realize that we are one supreme Court case away from having huge chunks of the Bill of Rights taken away.

Shillary is quickly proving that maxim is bullshit. You better believe you will care about who makes the laws when the only lawmakers you can buy off are so incompetent they threaten to drag you down with them.

believe me i get you OP. but you have to understand that he is our ONLY HOPE. If Hillary wins then the united states will fall into a NWO and were gonna end up in brainwashing facility's or fighting for our lives on the front lines as a rebel force against globalism. Oh and sage in all fields

Not bad. But it could be taller.

what's that a pic of?