REQUESTING HELP FROM BRIT/POL/
I am writing a blog post (i know) arguing for Brexit. I felt I should do something for the Brexit boys and so perhaps if I wrote a sort of online pamphlet with reasoned arguments some may be convinced. However I was wondering if you could help me chaps? I plan to present four arguments within the post, but if any of you could contribute with a good source or a supporting point that would be great.
The first argument is an Economic one
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Brit/pol/ only know how to shit post lad, they can't help you with an effort post.
The second argument is one based upon Democracy
The third argument will be based on immigration, and this is where im goanna need your help
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Maybe you should actually post this in the brit/pol/ thread.
This last argument is a bit of a rhetorical drive against the basic bitch “uncertainty” assertion
And that’s about it! At the end I will throw in rhetoric that Cromwell, Gladstone, Hume and Smith, Wallace and Bruce, Nelson and Wellington, Benn and Foot would be rolling in their graves to see us part of the EU. And I may finish with a quote from Enoch Powell but that might be a bit risky.
fucking bomber harris
i was planning to link it
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did you think that one up all by yourself or did you get help?
It is elected now, actually. Juncker was the lead candidate of the European People's Party and because the EPP won the 2014 election the Parliament elected him President of the European Comission.
alright thanks for steering me clear on that. i reckon the argument could still be made however.
What dont you understand about shengen?
so by us being outside shengen what are we protected from?
He was the only one on the ballot.
Welcome to European (((democracy)))
You could easily make the point of how small our say is. 1/28th of a say isnt much say at all.
ah ok
so this is very important do you have a source for that? I want to make sure my tracks are covered
Well yeah i will say that its tiny slice of democracy and not one we need to put up with
No he wasn't, there was a Party of European Socialists candidate, a Liberals and Democrats candidate and a Greens candidate.
You mean 73/751ths of a say.
One thing noone is mentioning at all is the coming of job automation. In 20 years every driving job and almost all manufacturing jobs will be done by robots. We will have millions, between 5-10 million unemployed because their jobs dont exist anymore. The more people we let in the worse this will be for us as we wont be able to support them without breaking the benefits system. This will ruin all of europes welfare states and we will be in a seriously shit state if we have to do it with the agreement of the other countries.
The more immigration we have now the worse this problem will be.
Britpol regular here.
It is very important you explain exactly how the EU system works, because nobody fucking understands it and when they do they are shocked. Let me explain for you.
So MEPs
CANNOT
propose legislation, or propose the repeal legislation. The only people that can do that are the European Commission. The EC is staffed by a British bloke that David Cameron chooses, who has never been elected, who proposes or votes for stuff that David Cameron wants. There is absolutely no democratic oversight. The other problem is we frequently get outvoted. In fact, we have voted 72 times to strike down legislation in the EC before it gets to the MEPs. We have lost 72 of those votes. That is to say, 100% of the time we've gone to the EC in opposition we have lost. The best normie clamp here is that they get no say in what Cameron proposes, or which way he has his minions vote. That all our MEPs as a result are effectively worthless, and super expensive.
Think about that. Insane.
Watch these videos, they are snippets of the brexit movie - 2 minutes and 30 is the longest one, there are 4. Their arguments are insanely good.
The fishing one especially points out that the fishing situation is reprehensible. We don't reduce the amount of fish being fished in our waters, we just reduce who fishes them. The EU is now giving other countries the right to fish in our shores, and then we have to pay them to buy the fish, which contributes to our national trade deficit. Paying to import our own fishing waters goods. The EU pays our fishermen to destroy their boats and leave the industry too.
ludicrous.
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Wahay! I've seen you on Brit/pol/.
Thanks for joining us tonight, WIN.
My pleasure. I picked this name specifically as a bit of one man meme magic. I want Brexit to WIN. I'll be retiring it when we do WIN. Because I know we are going to. Most important vote of our lives.
Forgot to add this new article:
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Basically as you read it, our membership rate is going up if we stay in because they need money to offset the migrant crisis bullshit. So if we stay in, we're walking into a financial trap. This hugely offsets the economic fear in my opinion. It shows there are serious risks to staying too, rather than "can we afford to guess what may happen if we go? lets stay in where it's safe" the fallacy that they keep using
Thats very well put
excellent, i know vaguely about the EU but filling in those gaps is hugely important. I dont want to find myself stumbling over little inaccuracies.
"WIN!", sounds like an end of a Donald Trump tweet, and if thats anything to go by we are gonna be alright
I don't have any links but point at EU youth unemployment, Germany's shrinking middle class, how France has been getting screwed by Germany.
Also point out how it deals with nonconformity with "far-right" countries also how laws can be draw by the EU which every country has to abide. Further point out that it is not to dissimilar to fascism where only the upper class can chose the rulers, which could cause a Hitler type to make it a massive war machine.
It also takes the best and brightest out of their own country meaning that they will never be the best or able to fully develop like us brits.
The anti-russia/china power is controlled by NATO (US) not the EU
Well the argument here is that the EC, meeting with a government that had not gained full democratic legitimacy (since the Ukraine government that did this was set up after the "revolution" in Kiev), entered into an agreement which they knew would piss of the Russians and was done without a referendum in Ukraine on the issue. The result of the democratic deficit from the reckless action is a proxy war with Russia. And we cannot un-elect the EC which lead to this. Therefore if we dont want to be part of a club which democratically potentially starts wars, we should leave the EU
Could argue with further integration it could take away countries decision to go to war as it already has an EU army which is growing.
Well I imagine its just like the euro-zone and ESM. It must centralise to survive, they cant have a bunch of independently run economies fucking up and ruining it for everyone else (Greece).
As the EU grows, and grows eastward, they are going to need military strength if they plan to take former USSR states which are under the thumb of Russia. Putin has already shown he can take a parts of land such as Crimea. If they want to deter that from happening in the future they may want some muscle and NATO will wise up to their game soon. (or be defunded by trump!)
So, who is printing and issuing the Euros?
Are they loaned at interest like the federal reserve notes of the USA?
Because if they are, that's a wealth extraction scheme that Greece has already fallen to.
Usually best way to do that argument, is a sinple supply and demand tactic.
Companies are trying to artificially inflate the labor supply, to deflate the price of labor.
Sounds like they are trying to drain every last drop of money out of you lads.