Supporting Trump IRL

How do you deal with it? As far as I know I am the only single person amongst my friends who supports Trump irl and I am constantly bombarded with the most garbage tier prodding into defending him.


Whenever I try to engage them on Bernie or Hillary with their very public failures they completely dismiss it. I know it is an exercise in futility to argue with these types of people but I can't help wanting to prove them wrong. How do you spend 200+ million against one of the most corrupt politicians in modern history and fail to put her away? How do you spend 200+ million against one failure of a socialist and squeak by with 298 more delegates? You've got people coming to Trump rallies burning cars, assaulting people and destroying property but blame Trump for it?

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They are not your friends user.

You need to learn to identify a lost cause, such as attempting to redpill terminal brainwashed faggots. Don't waste your time with these slugs and instead put your efforts on people willing to listen.
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It doesn't pay to engage them long-term or deeply. You're right, they dismiss everything bad. So don't point out flaws about the marxists. A wise friend told me that more than anything, these people hate two things: competing and thinking they are perceived as stupid. When they are stupid and wrong, simply warn them:

"Your statements are false. If too many of your statements are false, you are indeed stupid. I am sorry."

Whenever possible, separate them from people they think they agree with. Their self-perceived strength comes from thinking they hold the majority opinion. It's a facade: they don't hold the majority opinion. HuffingtonPost presents it as though they do, for example.

"You are false. If you believe that, people will think you are stupid. If you can't defend your statements, I will think you are stupid."

Don't worry, no charge for them.

Keep your politics in places where it seems fitting, in the classroom or online. If one of your friends wants to discuss this stuff do so, but if your friends aren't the type to discuss politics then just shut up.

Are they white? Try showing them videos like 'With Open Gates' to see how they respond to it.

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just use Trump tactics, don't use facts, use labels, repeat them, direct their attention to talking points, pull up news that reinforces said talking points and labels, lyin ted lying, crooked hillary being crooked, crazy bernie being crazy.

They are White but the one I argued with in the link posted thinks "there shouldn't be borders" as he rebuilds his fence around his home and tells people his dogs bite to keep people from wanting to pet them. It is nothing but logical inconsistent statement after the next. I cannot for the life of me figure out what angle to come from to make sense to this retard.

The thing is I know that there is some one thing that will finally click in their heads. I've halfway turned one of them when I pointed out how subsidizing college education will only increase competition driving down wages for those who do get a degree and drive up costs as the market gets artificially inflated with idiots who don't belong in college. I've just not yet found what will make this guy tick.

Easily, because they have no real ground to stand on. Any time someone hates on Trump I'll ask them "so you like sending jobs to china?" or "so you like going to war in the middle east for israel?" and they have no reply and have to change the subject.

The trick to argue libshits is to get personal and appeal to emotion a lot, which is a bitch trick but goddamn it works. Call out that guy on the fence shit and blame him personally for setting up borders in his own house then demand him to take refugees right on his bedroom and then paint him as a soul-less monster when he does as much as even stutter. Then you turn it around and tell him he's right in wanting borders for himself, and so is everyone else as a nation

I don't talk about politics with normies.

Be alpha, state your facts, don't cave to their emotional bullshit. You need to be the pillar they can't topple, that is how you "deal with it".

You shouldn't try to argue with everyone on the same level.

Some people are lost causes. Especially in liberal echo chambers where conservatives are ostracized, even if your argument is sound and the person believes you, they will fear publicly outing themselves as a shitlord. They will never agree.

Your goal should be to use the argument as a ploy to understand their thinking to plan your redpills, and figure out who is a cuck and who is a megacuck. It is important to know your enemy. Some people are just too far gone - think about how much it took for you to be repilled, they will likewise not accept it overnight. So don't try in vain to convert them because you will accidentally cede ground and make yourself look bad. Just argue in bad faith, with ulterior motive. Trick them into revealing their own psychology and overextending by going too far left into un-PC territory like "white men should be killed".

The ideal outcome is something like tricking a SJW HR bitch into admitting she discriminates against whites, which you can use to get her in trouble.

To this end, don't present yourself as a Trump supporter, claim to be a disinterested moderate who happens to see dishonesty on the left. Or at least take the stance of "I support Trump and I don't really care if that triggers you". Note that spirited arguing for Trump contradicts both options.

Even my mother's Cuban maid supports Trump.

She has to go back.

I know the feel OP and the people you know like I know are fucking retards

Get in an argument with my friend first it was racism and misogyny typical but groundless but then it got to the global warming

She starts acting like she knows everything because I fucking love science facebook page, then I link her to an interview with Freeman Dyson stating that the current models made by one of his colleagues are very faulty and that the increase of carbon outfit is making a greener world, and that their charts can't reasonably measure it and it needs much more research. She starts stating the Bill Nye thinks otherwise and is a leader of the scientific community not like the minority Freeman Dyson…. who actually has rewards and has done research pertaining to carbon dioxide and numerous other things

I got swarmed by lefties in my class when I said I supported Trump.

I just trolled them and then everyone gave me the silent treatment for a week.

Supporting Trump isn't rocket science and it doesn't require you to get all autistic Molyneaux on his opponents. Common sense will suffice.

Immigration

Foreign Policy

Trade

Social Programs

Education

Posit questions about the current state. Tell them Trump's policy. Ask them to think hard and extrapolate. You don't have to make them love The Donald, you just have to open eyes to his policies.

If the opponent is a Bernout, it's easier still. It won't win them over, but it'll give them a sense of respect for you and the ideas of The Donald.

Take a deep breath here

That video sends chills down my spine. What the hell are Europeans going to do?

I really wish I knew how to communicate to normies that he's an uncreative buffoon failed mechanical engineer who masquerades as a scientist to pay his bills.

Arm up and slaughter the invaders, kikes and our traitorous politicians and journalists.

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Just say: "I am a racist and I support exterminating all nonwhites".

I know how you feel op, Im stuck in Commiefornia and every carpet bagger I walk across is spewing some Bernie garbage.

I say just stand your ground and wear your pride on you sleeve, if Trump was as unpopular as these hippies are saying then he wouldn't be getting as many delegates as he has. You're ahead of the curve, they'll know this when their oranges go unpicked.

Idk m8. Most of my friends are pro Trump so hardly any problem. Only confrontation I had was with a "celebrity" sjw tv actress which has a drug habit so I can potentially make that go public

(EU)

Hide my powerlevel, talk about it with people I trust and not even give a shit. I don't trust my own family.

I trust more channers than I do them. They want to sit in the darkness and be ignorant and the light shall burn them. Why give the opportunity to people who don't want to be dragged screaming into the light? Why not just build a door over the hole and lock them in. Lock them in with their entertainment, their distractions, their silly little displays of false rebellion and so on. Allow them to walk the dark path to death and destruction and instead, walk the path to enlightenment yourself and disregard those who leave you behind. Teach it to your kids and make them keep it a secret.

I'm currently trying to get /fit/ and also working my way through material to gain a better understanding of the world around me. One can be Ubermensch if one simply makes the effort.

Also if WW3 comes, and you're feeling edgy, tell them it's a good thing, as it will wipe out the lecherous class dominating society. It would be a worldwide rebellion against the current Soros-funded order of things, not a war between European white nations. The powers that be desire a third world war to break our civilization a final time, however, this one will be the undoing of their work.

As for dismissal, that's the psychological barriers put in place to stop people from questioning their narrative of 'You are at fault for everything' and to make you buy into the left-right politics divide, not really calling these people what they are, that being leeches.

Some of us are going to the U.S.

how do i do it?

just got home a few minutes ago. on the way, a nig going the other way crossed onto the road to avoid me, eyeing me the entire time but did not dare say anything.

doing my part.

Hey, now. She might be an ugly Cuban, but she probably got here legally, from the U.S.'s point of view. It's very hard for the Cuban government to allow immigration out, unless you prove you are of another decent

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Shit I heard from my formerly right wing friend from childhood. This is what sleeping with Arabs and smoking pot all day does to you.

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Don't let them. Go no further in that conversation or any conversation until they answer the posed point.

You are letting them win. You are coddling them because they're your friends.

Just like in dating, just like in deals; be willing to walk away, and actually do it if it comes to it.

Otherwise you're a cuckold to their insane beliefs.

By not giving a fuck about the opinions of others, its pretty easy to do once you reach about age 30 and realize most other humans are scum.

I'm just about getting their myself. Trump ahs really helped with this.

The man needs to win. We don't have much time left to change course.

Tell her Bill Nye isn't even a real scientist, he's a shitter with a BS in mechanical engineering who was on TV kids show, then bluntly inform her that no, a glorified mechanic is not a leader of the scientific community.

That's exactly what we're going to do.

Everyone in their own little corner, slowly pilling up guns and ammo, waiting for the powder keg to explode.

My mother has told me that she agrees with all of Trump's policies but she still thinks he's a horrible person who shouldn't be president because he's a meanie who hurts feelings. I just don't know how it's possible to argue with someone who's kneejerk emotional reaction first and ideology second.

This is why women shouldn't vote.

Kill her.

Same reaction I got when I tried to talk politics with a normie.

This.

Yeah, my dumb mom is basically in that same retard boat, has bitched and bitched about illegals for years, and what does she do, vote in the Dem primary for Hillary Clinton, what a fucking dope.

I've found it's very important in this kind of situation to gain the normie's trust, to the point they'd tell you their deepest, darkest secrets.
If they are convinced what they say is just between you two, they'll be a lot more honest and drop the social signalling bullshit.
Of course, for this to work, you have to actually be trustworthy and not jew them on it.
When they let that guard down, that's when you can find common ground.
Just my 2 pence, anyhow.

Fanatic christian shit aside, my mom is based.

You're bad at arguing if you can't figure this shit out yourself.

about immigration

those lefties are empathic towards mexicans and islamic invaders, and if they aren't they pretend very hard to be; don't count on them only pretending to be

those lefties think that they DESERVE to live in a country where they can be safe and can find employment, and can feed and clothe themselves and their children

what should be said to them?

I'm not even American, and for "joke"-supporting Trump I already lost my group of friends of abou seven years of knowing them. Shit is fucked, tells a lot about attitudes in the western Europe society.

It really all boiled down to the


No that's all it really took, a few weeks of me only saying "Actually, I don't think so" to my friend group's anti-Trump shit (fueled by John Oliver etc.) and I'm literally not friends with them any more. No one calls, no one texts or contacts.

Now I might think a bit like "Maybe I should reconsider and make peace" but I think in 10 years I know they were really not my friends in the end, just people.

At work though I'm pro-Trump and I share laughs with them, even those who oppose him. Recently I shared the Trumpinator and Sparta vids with everyone and they loved it, although I doubt they know who Soros is.

Most people secretly agree, they just aren't willing to talk about it in public. It's a private thing. They're all conniving, that's just how it works. You're supposed to just go along. Some of us don't like doing that and we know that standing up for the truth is the right thing to do. Unfortunately it doesn't really work. I'd say Holla Forums has one goal, and that is making the "truth" socially acceptable.

Sooner or later you have to find a niche or something to communicate. Say what you want and do what you want. Nobody is going to listen to you. If they like it they like it, if they don't they don't. Value the people who like it and value yourself.

Deal with it? I deal with it fine because I don't give a single flying fuck what people think about me. They don't wipe my ass and they don't pay my bills.

You are a retard. It's depressing how stupid you are. It's depressing I'm going to answer the question and feed the bait.


Regardless, filtered.

I think we have to ensure that the truth is brought to light in public. We'll be vindicated eventually and everyone will realize how wrong they were. It's a genuinely strange time in history to be honest. This isn't lightweight stuff, it's quite serious. We're living in history. This is a battle of ideologies, the cold war really never ended. We're living it - the cultural cold war. These things that happen with our friends are very serious and will be remembered in history much like the gulags and gestapo are remembered - or not remembered…

It's not a funny thing. It's quite serious and quite scary.

I know that feel OP.

Mostly, my friends and I joke about it. A lot of them have some understanding of why I'm voting for Trump.

Anyone who really tries to give me a hard time about it gets

"White people don't know what it's like to be poor."

They are then welcome to go right ahead and go there with me. I come from a town that people apologize to me for being from. I come from near abject poverty and dysfunction and worked very fucking hard, with no gibs, to get out of it. All the while still having the finger of blame of the left pointed straight at me.

Anyone who has a real problem with that gets laughed at.

Yeah it sucks. I wish I had some right-wing friends because the current group I hang out with are way too stubborn/ignorant to be redpilled.

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And why would he want them?

if you really need to help them see the light then just kidnap them and drop them off in a ghetto

well don't do that if you don't want to end up in jail but the idea is that being red pill only happens when people are forced to see the truth and no be able to ignore it

I have a Trump shirt and a MAGA hat. For the past school year I've worn the hat every day that I could until they told me I couldn't anymore when the school dean had to confiscate it, and from then on I'd wear my Trump shirt once a week. I stumped feminists and Carl the cuck lookalikes.

This school brainwashes their students into communism, globalism and hating Trump. Teachers flat-out call him a racist, sexist bigot and compare him to Hitler as many chances as they get. One even said he was a dictator waiting to happen "like Julius Caesar" and every substitute did the Hitler comparison as well. "If you want to know how Hitler came to power, look at Donald Trump!"

My confidence and communication skills greatly increased from despicable Tomoko levels to proud and truly confident, allowing me to get up, stop slouching, and be ready for a libcuck to stump.

I always won, they always gave up or resorted to shouting "RACIST! BIGOT! NAZI! SEXIST! HOMOPHOBE!" Feminists told me to check my white privilege, no joke. I've convinced lots of people on Trump not being as bad as the school brainwashes them into thinking.

They never got violent, surprisingly, but a lot of people threatened me. People'd say that they expected to see me shot or dead if I wore the hat or shirt on campus, but fortunately nothing ever happened. Some of them would try to take my hat and run with it, block my way or push me in crowds, but that's it.

More and more I've seen some people I'd never expect from classes to suddenly wear MAGA hats and shirts, and it's beautiful.

OP, you gotta' stand tall, be prepared with facts, and don't give them an inch. Be confident, be like Trump. Take notes on how he persuades people.


This was probably a completely shit rambling but I hope it helps OP

Outside the US supporting Trump is even harder. I have to take at least 10 minutes destroying what the lugenpresse is telling by contrasting it with what he says in his rallies, having to explain I watched most of his rallies and he only developped his points through time and finally explaining why what is currently going on in the US is not only harming US interest but all countries. The hardest part is trying to make people understand that a Trump presidency is helping everyone by reducing US influence worldwide because he seems to approve of isolationist policies.

>>>/auschwitz/

This. Once you hit 30 you realize 9 times out of 10 friends are just assholes who want shit from you and tht's it. The other 1 out of 10 probably only exist in stories you hear other people tell and in reality.

Sorry to divest you of your illusions, but like 95% of people are utter scum.

Feels good

Do people really think there is a big, red button labeled " NUKE EVERYTHING " inside the oval office?

I have yet to run into anyone that doesn't support Trump over Hillary. My dad is the closest to being a person I know that doesn't support Trump and that's because he really despises how bombastic he is as my father's a reserved traditionalist that feels men should be gentlemen and women should be ladies. He's still definitely voting Trump over Clinton though.

How important is character to begin with? Obama would be considered of good character, but aside from what libtards think, he has not been a good president. Does anyone have that list of Obama offences? The only one I can think of right now is signing the Patriot Act into law.

They aren't your friends

I deal with supporting trump by being extremely vocal and triggering every cuck I know. Half my in laws hate me now and it makes me so fucking happy. I can't explain the joy I feel when I trigger them.

Matter of fact I was just thinking that there isn't much that makes me feel joy anymore. But what does make me feel joy is the expression of my contempt for this society. After all you feel joy when you are doing what you subconscious knows you should be doing and despair when you are not. That's the truth that kike psychology has been trying to hide for the past century.

At this point I'm inviting a fight. I just want an excuse to hurt somebody, man.

With certain "friends," I have to leave politics out of our conversations altogether.

I have one decent friend. He's married and has two white kids. He is an avid Molyneux listener, he's just not sold on Trump. I told him the truth about the Holocaust and he respects how I feel, but I don't know if he will ever believe the truth himself.

I have less than 5 good friends, of those I can only talk about what's going on with one. I had many friends, but right around the time that the Trayvon verdict came out, I knew most of them were fucking idiots.

Several days later, I buhleted my Faceberg. In so doing, I also lost many friends because that's how we communicated. With that, I was able to be free to express whatever I wanted. Nobody knows me anymore, so I am free to think how I want and support what I want.

Sorry about the livejournal entry.

Yes, they do. People don't know that the president alone cannot fire a nuke, but, the president can authorize a launch and after the authorization the process is simply verification of the identities and codes. Technically speaking, Trump and his secretary of defense can launch a nuke on a whim.

me and my dad trigger the fuck out of my cuck siblings telling them we're building a wall.
My dad walks by yelling black lives matter dindu nuffin muh fuga.
Literally real life shitposting.
I love you papa.

The information wars are more important than ever.

Everyone is cucked because they have been persuaded to be cucks.

That means you win and they know it. Stay strong friend.

What did Trump do to offend nogs anyway? It is apparent that they think he is raysis.

News told them hes anti black and they didnt fact check same as dumb ass normies.

Not sure if the no one here actually communicates with other humans or I just live in a decent area (Rhode Island decent? I doubt it) but I wear my MAGA shirt in public all the time and even the ultra SJWs I know don't go full "ARE YOU KIDDING ME?" mode. Most people just ask why. I guess it helps that my father was born in Mexico and came here legally

Pol is actually full of niggers and spics wtf.

This surprises you?

I know a mulatto and an ethnic arab that browse too. Both are Trump supporters.

Don't try to make sense to them. Hammer them with Fact until they shut down. A constant stream of 'Hatefacts' will clam them up right quick. Facts about race, facts about communism, facts about women, facts about everything. That is what we deal in.
When they say something you know to be false start your next replay with, "No. That's wrong." They are children and should be handled as such.

This image would make a great flyer.

Excellent way to spread the message IRL.

somebody cap these.
Gods bless you brother.

I only have one good friend who's truly liberal. He's too blue pilled to accept Trump yet but I've managed to convince him it's not the end of the world if he is president, plus I'm pretty sure he'd vote for Trump over Hillary, despite everything. He's a work in progress; so close to being self aware, just lacking to facts to back up what he knows is true because the good goy media he watches doesn't talk about it.
The rest of my friends also all support Trump.

Anyone else I associate with who doesn't I do out of necessity (work, school, etc.) and they're all too limp wristed to say anything and no, I'm not kidding. They talk shit about Trump but then they turn to me and they just kind of cringe. I know they want to say more and lambast me about it, but they're too chicken to do it. It's not even because I'm terribly big or imposing, they're just that spineless. I'm honestly surprised anyone says anything to you, OP, because as rowdy as Bernouts are on TV, IRL they're all cowards who shy away from conflict from people who don't immediately concede to their faggotry.

Supporting Trump over here in Canuckcuckland can literally ruin your fucking life.

Be straight up honest and ask them very hard questions and trick them into talking about their candidate that they support with policies of Trump.

For instance I would say, "Oh I've heard about Bernie too! I like his tax plan that if you make less than 50000, your tax rate is zero, sounds good right?


Oh, that was Trumps tax plan by the way.

It's pretty easy for me to be honest, they don't have a background in politics like I do.

spotted the kike. trump uses facts rabbi.

Facts won't help you when your opponent appeals to emotions.

They work for the hook nosed

It will if you shame them for appealing to emotion and not dealing with fact, then keep hammering them with more fact.
Point out their ego gratification and sphincter worship.

Unless, you can appeal to their emotions.

Which is what I can do >:)

Capped.

I'm not really qualified to give social advice, but I think I have found an easy way to talk to people about it.

At first, when people talked shit about Trump (We praise thy name) I tried to trigger people by mocking them and being really politically incorrect, but I've calmed down realising that doesn't help the cause.

Now when someone starts talking shit about Trump to me, I tell them right off the bat that I support Trump like this: "Please don't go crazy at me, but I actually like Trump". That way it's not on the offensive, and leaves them more receptive because they don't want to look like they are "going crazy at me".

Then, when they try to tell me that he is "racist/sexist/etc" I sympathise with how those are bad things but explain how Trump or his polices are nothing like that, explain media bias and provide statistics about rape at the border, immigration, etc. Just take the common arguments everyone seems to only know: "He said bad thing, Trump University, Taxes, Wall can't be done…" and use hatefacts you learned from Holla Forums to refute that shit. It easy because usually they only have a few arguments.

They will still disagree with you, but if they are the kind of person worth talking to they wont lash out at you and will still be your friend. Going full 1488 right away will push people away, and I learned that the hard way. I slowly red-pilled my gf the slow way, and now she tells me she can't watch a movie or tv show without playing "count the jews".

From there, maybe later on you can keep going further saying shit like "What does racist even mean? Isn't it natural to want to look out for ones own tribe, and to have a natural defence mechanism due to the way we evolved?" Asking questions is a good way to get people to actually try to think for themselves.
Just take it slow, people are brainwashed and fed the same crap every day. You can't make them swallow the whole load at once, and you will never convince anyone right away.

I thought I was the only one like this… I gave up on "friends" when I was 19, I could easily make new ones but the fact is they are a complete bore and I find them draining.

I simply have no use for them and they don't entertain me… what's the point?

Also, show them this. It seems to get a good response.

>How much is your state paying?

My best friend is a shillary supporter & he doesnt know Im all out Trump. When he bashes on Trump "he's a racist!, he's xenophobic, he's going to lead us into war!" I calmly ask him for proof and point out that if he has these views without any sort of evidence it makes his argument look weak. He will at this point look down to his phone searching for any solid proof & when he realizes he cant find any changes the subject. At this point he thinks i'm a Sanders supporter & Ive been using it to point out every slimey bit of corruption Hillarys ever been involved in making her seem hopfully weak or corrupt as she is. recently hes taken to gloating about how shes going to beat Sanders and the other day told me "When she wins the nomination don't vote third party otherwise you're giving the election to trump" I said oh? Well between Trump and Hillary Id vote Trump. Then with a nervous laugh said "ha well good thing you always vote theid party. So it doesnt matter"


Anyhow tl;dr version

Pretend to be a Sanders supporter undermine Shillary in every way

1. Don't be scared that other people will resent you for your views. This is what insecure faggots do and it should be beneath you. A lot of people will hate you for speaking your mind, but a true friend will accept your views even if he disagrees.

2. Read up on his policies and formulate a few specific reasons why you support Trump. (be it isolationalist foreign policies, bringing industry back to America, strong leadership, immigration controls, Hillary being shit or anything else.)

Britbong here, one thing I don't get is you bitch about illegal immigrant money drain, yet you put a ridiculous amount of money into the military which invades foreign countries causing more "refugees", why are you guys not bitching about keeping your military on US soil therefore saving a fuckton of money?

Nearly all of us are autistic and that's not happening

Muh Oil, also we are sadly Israel's personal attack dogs.

Same reason we have guns and you don't.

How is draining money into pointless wars linked to us not having guns? It's your own money you are wasting.


I know Iraq was always about oil but you didn't really get any out of it did you?

Like don't you get really mad that you have US citizens being sent over to some buttfuck country to be shot at and you are footed with the bill as a tax payer?

Could spend it on looking for oil in Alaska and closer to the Arctic…

The middle east is a pointless place, it should be left to fall apart by itself.

I'm in the US military, so it's pretty easy.

Many of us like trump because he actually a) gives a shit about us, b) might work with and not against Russia so we won't die in WWIII, c) has planned to fix the clusterfuck that is the VA, and d) is politically incorrect, which is a significant departure from how Obama has been trying to neuter enlisted military culture.

Even those of us who don't like trump absolutely DESPISE Hillary Clinton, and the majority of enlisted personnel I know have said that they won't re-up if she becomes the Commander in Chief.

the semitic man

Tell them they're right, but get them blackout drunk before election day so they're too hungover to vote.

Or "If you don't vote for Donald Trump I will set you on fire."

read this book retard

SCHLOMO?

Double down and don't engage in a futile action. Leave little bread crumbs of questions for them to follow up on themselves, like 'How much do we spend on Illegal immigrants each year? How many illegals are in our jails? Why do we spend so much time helping other countries underclass while ours exist in squalor as in Detroit?"

If they follow the bread crumbs they are salvageable. If not, they aren't worth your time.

You are not alone, even if it seems like it. Out of my group of friends I am the most outspoken in support of trump. Others don't always come to support, but I have picked up signs that they too support trump even if they don't want to say it, out of fear of the social backlash.

Speaking as someone who leans to the left on most issues, these are good responses, thanks m80s.

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I have a yard sign and I've had several conversations with neighbors, friends, and family. They hate the media and politicians so Trump is the default choice around here.

No car stickers, though. Too easy for some spineless faggot to mess with it

Leave your "friends", they are not bettering you or your country.

Yes let's discuss this and how we can achieve this.

Understand that many people who support liberal ideas think emotionally.

No amount of fact bombing will ever make them budge on their positions. You have to appeal emotionally.

The problem with Trump is that his emotional appeal won't even be considered with liberals

Of course these things appeal to you or I. But what the fuck does a liberal know about being honorable.

This is good, but only if the opponent is fairly well-versed in political matters. My friends are fairly apolitical but hold strong opinions against Trump because they watch The Daily Show or whatever bullshit OccupyDemocrats propaganda that pops up on Facebook.


I ask the investment banker's dad (also iBanker and multi-millionaire) about Trump saying no more globalism:

None of them follow or care about the refugee crisis so they think his temporary ban on muslim immigration is unconstitutional and racist.

I show them 'With Open Gates', they don't make it halfway through before saying

Indian friend in Silicon Valley says Trump's policy on H1B visas would do more harm then good. I point out that it's just the company's way of getting cheap labor:


I make a case for Nationalism:


I make a case for economic nationalism:


I clarify that it still is free trade but at this point they're so triggered they're deaf and visibly uncomfortable and can't even, not to mention uninterested in debating without emotional appeals.

White friends voting Stein or Bernie and only talk about agriculture and energy.

Fucking thing sucks.

anonymousconservative.com/blog/touching-the-raw-amygdala-part-i-foundational-understandings/

Read this.

Drunk?
I hope you made it crystal fucking clear that he doesn't drink.

Thanks! Hopefully they'll help someone in the future.

The goal isn't really to answer questions for the target, or even to change their mind in a few moments. The goal here is to get them thinking, get them considering consequences and proposed solutions.

I'll be honest myself, I dislike Donald's public persona. I have excellent reason to believe he's a far better person in private, but that won't change any minds.

Stick to policy. Demand proof of racism, sexism, etc. in policies.

A common complaint I hear from Bernouts is about Donald's "billionaire friends"
Here's how you shut down the plutocrat canard
Deep Breath Here


That case, it's kind of a "pearls before swine" situation. I think you're onto something though. Voters who can function in jobs but are so brainwashed and "apolitical" (I believe apolitical to be a synonym for civic laziness) that they'll parrot what they hear, vote as they're expected to vote… I think that's a kind of end-goal, the result of successful programming.

I own a tech company myself, FYI. I know our parts from China might get a touch more expensive, but it won't cripple us. We use only Americans to do our coding work anyway- no skin off my back if competitors can't hire Pajeet to make their buggy shit products anymore. I know that long term, Trump will be good for business.

Do something like:

Make it impossible for them to express their emotions by dropping ' I respect them all and their love for america and blahblah' I think you'll stand a great chance to make them demonise Trump less which is a start. Yes I know this is ultimate cucking but how are you gonna argue with professional cucks otherwise?

Yes I forgot to add Hillary at the first lines. Was using Bernie as an example at first but he's so burned out that he doesn't stand a chance so Hillary might have been a better example. But it's still the same point.

Agree.

Before you debate something, if you don't establish terms you're going wherever emotions take you, and that'll cause hurt feelings and accomplish fuckall.

Whenever I enter a debate I nail down what we're talking about.

"So Trump's gonna start WW3?"

"What are you saying? How is he going to start WW3?"

"How is he mean?"

Keep asking questions until you hit bedrock, then you can have a discussion. If they can't hit bedrock, better just shitpost.

I drive with a bumper sticker. No one has started shit yet, but I live in a major Trump stronghold.

I Tell them it's a win win win situation for me.

Every one of them a win scenario in my book.

All hail the Emperor!

Oh, and even if you win some people will hate you, which is their fault. If they can't tolerate your opinions, are they friends? Maybe the exception would be your employer or someone you're indebted to.

Best thing to bring up is how close the Clintons are with Wesley Clark, the man who almost stared a fucking world war. Someone who they would tap for advice on how to deal with Russia and China.

Look at what Clark, who was the supreme commander of NATO, did during the end of the Kosovo conflict, when he ordered a British officer to attack Russian peacekeepers at an airport. The Brit refused the order and it sent Clark into a rage. Pristina International Airport incident.

He is itching for his second chance and the Clintons would give him the opportunity for it. Clintons are the war mongers.

Dismiss them back. Watch how they argue. It is all emotion.
Step 1: Demand they explain something.
Step 2: Be unsatisfied and cry raaaaayciiiis.
Step 3: Accuse you of being unhinged and demand you calm down even if you are more calm then them.

This isn't about winning them over or winning you over. It is ablut making all onlookers see the opponent as crazy and feel scared to voice support for fear of alienation.

The best bet is to dismiss them as a crazy political nut. They do NOT respond to logic. This is why Republicans lost before Trump. You have to fight like a Dem. Use peer pressure and laugh at them. Create the illusion of settled argument. That Everyone already agrees with you and others are crazy hyperbolic morons.

You will never win them over. The trick is to reassure your side and peer pressure the middle.

That picture made my day

I live in Portland and I am open about being a Trump supporter. None of my friends care about it. I think its because my friends are engineers which indicates a rational sense of thought and understanding different opinions.

1.smug
2.???
3.mad libs

It's a hard fought battle to be a Trump supporter in MA. I really have only one friend and my dad that support Trump, but neither are redpilled enough to recognize him as God Emperor. The rest of my friends claim they don't like anyone and aren't voting, but this one asshole we only keep around to leech off of is so berned out that one day he stole a Trump 2016 sign from someone's front yard and wrote a novel to us about why it was his CIVIC DUTY to protect FREE AMERICA. He then proceeded to write a sequel wherein he complained about the guy putting up a MAGA flag.

Step one: Get MAGA sign.
Step two: Slather MAGA sign with bird repellent gel(Wear gloves and disposable clothing) - Tell Bernfag location of MAGA sign
Step three: ???
Step four: PROFIT

Consider seeking out friendships with people that know how to use logic and are willing to have a rational discussion. You can have normie friends too, but don't bother talking politics with them. Normie friends are for doing normie shit with.

A true autiste.

I don't support politics of any kind, publicly or privately. I'm too busy having a job and living my life, and no one wants to be that faggot who starts talking about politics in civilized company and makes everyone want to kick him out of the house.

SOMEBODY'S DOING THE VOTING

People will grill you sometimes though. I guess those people would be the "that faggot" you describe. They will start talking shit about Trump, and if you don't reciprocate, they start getting all accusatory and try to force you to take a stand either way. Pisses me off. I don't want to be getting into stupid arguments with people who aren't even informed on what's going on in the first place. But they will try to force you to answer, and if you refuse to answer, they will take it as support for Trump anyway and start fantasizing in their heads about how you secretly go around murdering mexicans. Then you have to spend all day working with a guy who is plotting in his mind the best way to get a leftist mob to kidnap and re-educate you.

I don't associate myself with people who talk about politics like that. Get less shit friends maybe?

Cuck.

D&C slide thread.

Not friends, co-workers mostly. I wouldn't be caught dead with this kind of person as a friend, but unfortunately I need to somewhat get along with them to continue having a job.

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Lucky me, being an engineer then. My job is 100% technical work and social/political shit has no place there.

My mother found I support trump and said, i quote.

"I will stab you in the neck if you vote for him."

That's fucked up. The brainwashing is scary shit.

I'm almost sure it's because I'm the only one in the house who doesn't watch television.
My parents however, are watching for the majority of their free time. Kinda gets hard to talk to them because the first thing they say I can already pick up the bias that was being laid on them.

My father went on a rant about how evil Trump is and how he's a con man, spoiled rich boy, etc. I listened, didn't say anything(This works with him because I can then guilt him by saying 'Hey, I listened to you, now you listen to me.' Then showed him about 20 minute's worth of Trump talking about economics. He claims he might vote for Trump now.

my mum doesnt talk to me since one year because i deny the 66 gorillion lol.

Then you make the offhanded comment, "Well at least I know how to fucking think" and then explain the point you just made about the fence when they challenge you on it.

You don't have to take their shit.

They also might bite if you started simply pointing out, "Well at least I'm not voting for the woman who surpasses Dick Cheney as the most obviously corrupt politician of our lifetimes"

Clinton foundation blows Halliburton out of the water.

I don't have many libcucks for friends, but I have a lot of obnoxious #nevertrump friends. I've been trying to get through to them, but I've only reached through to two so far. It's frustrating because they have hardwiree themselves to hate everything Trump does and says, no matter how intellectually dishonest they have to be about it. One of them could not let go of the fact that he thought Trump REALLY WANTED to sleep with his daughter over his compliment about her last year. I blew out all his other arguments against Trump, so that was the one thing he clinged.

It's frustrating. If anyone has any tips or infographs to share for muh conserva-tism #nevertrump cucks, please do.

Are you me?

The 19th amendment was a mistake. My mother is a very smart woman but holy shit she is so fickle about these things.

Jeez… is he a kike or something?

I was afraid my mom was gonna go full-#NeverTrump, but I'm pretty sure she still listens to Hannity :3

Its fucking scary that women can vote.
Her reason for not liking him amounted to, "He's rude.", to which I'm like, "But I'M rude!"

So use that autism as a weapon.
Consider the normie a simple electrical system with a shit interface or something.

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Here's the conversation with him (he is greentext):


Are you honestly going to try to spin his comment into such a thing? I would hope you have enough integrity to realize he doesn't want to shag his own daughter. It was an inelegant compliment.


Again, I'm not saying that it was a well-spoken comment at all, but you can't seriously think he wants to have sex with his daughter, can you? There are things everyone has said inelegantly. I'm sure you've said that you've wanted to kill someone at some point in your life. Should you be locked up for such a hyperbolic statement?


I'm not aware of any women Trump abused…? Regardless, Trump doesn't have a history of incest, so I think you still could let that slide.

And it continues like this, with him trying to redefine what abuse means before just shutting down on me. It was like talking to a 4 year old.

He's from Guatemala, btw.

user it's great when a brown person is based, but when they are this bluepilled why would you waste your time trying to sway them to our side? It's not like doing so would bring a white person back into the fold.

This conversation happened in the middle of a larger group conversation on Faceberg. I was already convincing two other people, possible more, so I had a vested interest in shooting down this guy's BS.

Ahh I see. Sorry user I shouldn't have jumped to conclusions, I don't use Jewbook so that possibility didn't even cross my mind.

Lol it's good. I normally avoid lost causes, but when they have the potential to further blue-pill people that can be saved, I have to get involved.

You are a white warrior user!

You mean the one Clinton has said she wants to start?
You mean the ones Clinton raped and covered up rapes for her husband about?
Don't you mean "global cooling"? Oh wait that's what it was called 30 years ago and nothing happened.
Free doesn't mean free. It means you pay 40% of your income in tax.

And always remember to be completely smug about it and just laugh in their face about their garbage. Especially about the schooling. I'm European and you just ask them to provide a financial basis for free schooling in America and they either babble incoherently or give up.

And always remember, stay smug as fuck.