Russia goes back in time, is going to put up an Iron Curtain again

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For those who don't speak moon runes, I offer a shitty partial translation:

Right now there's a law project being prepared, under a temporary name "About an autonomous Internet system".


According to the law project, all inter-border Internet trafic would be strictly controlled. Owners of autonomous systems translator note : autonomous systems ~ any kind of computer, that exchange traffic with foreign networks, would have to install technological read:software or hardware devices that would control inter-border traffic, so, the SORM system;

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SORM


Aside from other things, the document suggests creation of unified federal informational system of Runet's integrity and stability control. It will include systemas of domain names, IP-addressation and traffic monitoring. All networks, created by any individuals or legal entities would be controlled by government, and users would have to go through obligatory registration.


Accodring to the department's Ministry of communications plans, before 2020, 99% of russian Internet traffic would be transmitted inside of the country.


Some of my unrelated rumbling starts here and you can ignore it:
So, that's it. We North Korea now. And before anyone would call me a shill or anything else, I have to say that I'm russian, and I'm not one of the self-hatng ones, not really. I just don't understand your guys amusement with Russia and it's many cleptocratic corrupt policies. I have a degree in ITsec, and I've been working as an ITsec for several years. I don't want to become a code-monkey and leave my country. I live in a town with more than a million people. I love my job and I have a salary that is considered quite good in the town, but if you translate it into US dollars, it would be about 530$. A small one room commieblock apartment costs ~ 40k$. Our president's spokesperson wears wristwatch that cost about 600k$, and yes, his salary is not even close to the level where he should be able to afford that. We literally have african levels of wealth distribution disparity and we have pretty much cast system in our society with several casts, like government officials and policemen being all-powerful and untouchable. I would be better off being a hacker and a thief, but I don't want to. I want to be a lawful citizen. I'm by no means a western liberal, if anything I would be closer to Common Filth in my views, except I'm not that much of a defeatist. I go to Holla Forums and I see people shouting here and there how based Russia is, while the only thing I see is a country where I don't want to have children, as they would live in poverty and government's mercy, like slaves. I've been on Holla Forums for several years and now I see people being fucking FANBOYS of a billioner politician, believing his every word. I might be an edgelord, but I think we are past the time when you could completely belive a billioner or a politician. I see people on Holla Forums making excuses for Trump, saying that him supporting NSA spying and Israel is good, why? I do understand that he's the best of the worst, and maybe the best that came up in a while, but why make excuses? "Ooh, he's just pretending", "Ooh, our god-emperror". That just sounds pathetic. I don't get that urge of a sturdy totalitarian dick in your ass. I might sound like I'm preaching, but I want to warn you, you edgy teenage Trump-loving mememasters, don't ever listen and believe, don't believe your syndicate politicians affiliated with big wealth, take off your pink glasses: Russia is not a white paradise, and there's no paradise to be ever build on Earth, there's only your and your childrens lives that can end up in 1984-style dystopia if you believe too much.
Sorry for my shitty english and rambling.

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you either have that, or faggots, leftists and niggers ..in power.

Thanks for the story and its implications OP.

I've never said that there's no middle ground. All I said that there're retards on Holla Forums who believe somebody who's promising them paradise on earth and that my country went to shit thanks to the exact same retards.

I said there is no middle ground.


So, what's the middle ground?

Oh, sorry, I thought you were replying to my post.

Why would Russia want to control the flow of poz coming in from western countries? Dont they want to be diversified?

US is the main threat to the world peace. Amerifags don't care because "we r kings now".

First, it's not done because of the poz flow. It's being done so they can completely control the news and public information. That's a way to secure their power.
Second, you don't fight degenerate shit by making it forbidden, as once it becomes available, your yesterdays normal people would instantly become degenerate filth, see post soviet periods of ex-soviet republics and Russia itself. The way to fight degenerate filth is to expose why it's degenerate and to give a role model that is a complete and successful individual, not a prison guard who beats the shit out of you after drinking vodka because you asked questions.

Same thing done by China. They don't want an arab or ukrainian sping.

Merkel always looks like the life is sucked out of her, do you think she understands how awful she is?

Hope you're ready to get told what your country is really like, OP.

Just save on all the extra costs and kill all the liberals. Why complicate shit.

HON HON HON HON, PREPARE YOUR ANUS FOR COMMUNISM GOY!

I suggest you begin organizing the second coming of the SS, then overthrow the government. You don't even need the best weapons, the government would never use heavy caliber on citizens, you just need number superiority and training.

If you love your country, it is your divine duty to fix it.

Они блядь совсем охуели.

I'm not sure I understand this correctly, the Russian government wants to create a separate Russian only internet?

How will this effect glorious Russian Freeware?

Thats an incredible difficult question and probably differs heavily between cultures, the level of outer threat and the overall compostition of the country.

Singapor needs to be very authoritanian in order to survive with all the muzzies around but also seems to have a culture that circumvents rampant corruption while being able to stomach great ethnic diversity. For them as asians it seems to work.

The swiss has an incredible amount of libertys, but that is due to their location making them vincible towards attacks and a small, easy to manage due to its size, high trust society.

Middle eastern countries have performed best yet when under the control of secular dictators or hybrids of theocracy and democracy such as in the lebanon because too much freedom will lead to them snapping into medieval caliphate mode or succumbing to their strong familytribe culture.

Id wager you guys were always more inclined towards harsher sytems, but the current conflict with america and the size and diversity of your empire pressures you into totalitarian overdrive in order to keep russia powerful.

Assymetrical warfare and subversive tactics that wreck nations have become so refined in the last time that it gets harder and harder to be like the swiss or the incredible comfy western europe/persia of the 60s without getting rekt like sweden.

They want to wall off Russia's traffic to be completely contained inside it's borders. No more Holla Forums, no more Twatter, no more fucking jewtube. Registration would be mandatory. Full-on fucking China from what I understand, with plenty a potential to get worse.

Salary? As in yearly? Nigger wtf?

Anyway thanks for the pity story, it's given me a boost of motivation to continue working on MiMaS - Moddable Mobile System

My body is ready.

I believe they would try to minimize the number of points where russian internet connects to the outside world and tightly control those points, with ability to filter the flow or stop it alltogether.

No idea. Not enough specifics so far are given.

Salary as in monthly.

The world will finally be free of malware. Russia knocks out two birds with one stone.

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I believe our glorious government wouldn't stop the malware flow to the outside.
Even if it would, russians would probably just shoot infected USB sticks over the border with a cannon or something.

That's still pretty bad user.

Min. wage cucks here are making double what you make yearly.


Hey Russia shit tech ain't all bad.

Also since ruskies are ITT how good is pic related?

Thinking about buying one as a burner phone because they're cheap as shit.

Tie an infected USB stick to a balloon with some piece of paper attached to it claiming you wanna leak an ultra secret government scandal/free porn/"art project pls inject" or something like that written on it and then wait for a strong wind to blow them into the ucraine or Khazakstan :^)

So much for


Commies are back…

I see Russians move to do this on three levels


You can't have the whole world focused on one thing, or it might actually manifest and come true. I think that is part of the reason for China's internet censorship, to keep the meme magic at bay.

Also, Africa has little internet, so that means you have about 2.5 Billion people on separate Internets, and then India is kinda doing their own thing, so thats another 1.2 billion. Then you have the west plus some south American countries to add up to another 1.5 Billion.

Good, i fucking hope they do with all the shit the west has become

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If I was Russian, it'd make me uneasy, but it's pretty reasonable at the same time tbh

We need more sovereignty and cultural separation anyway. If populist political pressure from the west are the reason for Russia to seek exit, so be it.

Internet spreads degeneracy too easy. In old days you had to put effort into finding unholy stuff and as a result the groups you find yourself in bred some values since they were tight knit. Not anymore. Besides, no wolfynail is a good thing.

Take the black and yellow pill brah

Totally agree.

You enter a bizarre and strabge world if you look at the comment section of indian youtube videos about religious pissing contests.

Can't subvert if you control everything.
Probably afraid of spies too.

Someone should tell Holla Forums, I'm sure they'll love it if the Russians are gone from their gaymes.

We get that Russia is not that based and that living there is probably not amazing. When we spam RUSSIA BASED it's usually one thing like banning homo or not backing down when America says get out of Syria etc.

You guys are still revovering from the (((Soviet Union))). It's going to be like this for another century at least.

In 3 or 4 centureis Russia will be the center of the next great white civilization.

Until then, well…

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Deep inside your heart you know that muh roads, muh nature and culture is actually a pretty good argument against your dreamstate under the assumption that its bigger then a citystate.

You are welcome to build yourself an anarchic piratebay when undersea cities become cheaper in the future however.

Good. The internet is destroying humanity

Hell no, where will i get my pirated games? Most of them are russian.

maymay doge pic ≠ argument

You aren't the only one who sees it this way.

Come on man. Give me an example of an industry taken over by government that has improved.

ITT: OP was intelligent

Thievery

Aristocracy counts as government. So, pretty much every great art piece. Mozart, Michelangelo etc. Basically culture as a whole. Catholic Church unified Europe in a unique way and warded off arabs and turks. Basically, civilization is a government invention. Now fuck off.

You got me.


None of those are industries.

hehehe

Industry and economics are irrelevant. They are outcomes of culture and civilization. As long as you put them first, you belong to the same trash heap with communism and capitalism.

Industries grow out of demand for products.

Nice dubs.

As for the detractors in this thread, why shouldn't Russia defend itself from the Cultural Marxism of the West?

Exactly. Instead of a necessity. Capitalism degenerated our culture and morality with slavish following of what can instead of what should be offered.

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Government doesn't build roads, individuals do. Also private toll roads not only already exist but are always superior to the publicly funded roads in the same area.

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Those aren't arguments, also AnCap is pushed from an ethical perspective and not a consequentialist one.

Wow, that's one shittey meme.

Who decides what should be offered?

Trains.
Our Railsystem is aligned in a way that makes it impossible for another company to build a competitive second Railsystem with bridges and stations so the one that owns it now has a monopoly over a vital cashmaker and can thus cease to give a shit about replacing its trains with new ones and other quality raising means.

Also im glad companies do not posses the right to bulldoze historical stuff or make kitschy wonderlands for maximum profit out of them.

Statist bro Adenauer gave my city a central planned green belt of forestry that makes airquality much better.
In an anarcho capitalist society the valuable space would be deforested and build upon while the compensation would be a surge in selling new breathmasks.

Depends on the particular tradition established in each country for its own self. That's because a universal system doesn't and never will exist and each people need to approximate a system that works best for them depending on their history, culture, character and spirit.

No, gubmint makes em to build roads because roadbuilding is shit work and needs lots of planning with a gozillion partys who might squabble about where to not put the dirty loud traffic line.

I would love to see a few anarchocapitalist free cities to pop up in the future but other parts of the world are and never were ready for that kind of system.

What if what works best for me doesn't work best for someone else?

For some reason I get the impression that this is more than just usual authoritarian creep. Russia's been hinting at an increasingly aggressive tone to the U.S. So this kind of crack down on external communications is a sign of preparing for a future conflict.

If the U.S and EU immediately do the same then it'll confirm it's happening soon.

If they pull it off in the west it wont be by saying "We must keep the eastern internetmenace out!" It will be something about racism, cyberbullying and bigotry inducing sites-all the while acess to foreign sites gets restricted more subtly.

As far as solving social issues goes, pointing guns probably has the best track record tbh.

Wouldn't this mean that Russia is gonna get protection from zog cultural influence? They're going to create their own propaganda, music, movies, etc. just like the Norks, except the Russians have the resources to do so.
If not, please educate me.

This is what you get for not voting LDPR

Well thats why I personally advocate for a test case where a small country breaks up into regions dedicated to various systems. That way as many variables as possible are controlled and we can see and directly compare the performance of NatSoc/Communism/AnCap/AnCom/Democracy/etc and hopefully draw a conclusion to this argument.

WWIII is getting too real for me.

EU and US tech companies decide to ban internet free speech.
European Commission - Press release
European Commission and IT Companies announce Code of Conduct on illegal online hate speech
Brussels, 31 May 2016
The Commission together with Facebook, Twitter, YouTube and Microsoft (“the IT companies”) today unveil a code of conduct that includes a series of commitments to combat the spread of illegal hate speech online in Europe.
The IT Companies support the European Commission and EU Member States in the effort to respond to the challenge of ensuring that online platforms do not offer opportunities for illegal online hate speech to spread virally. They share, together with other platforms and social media companies, a collective responsibility and pride in promoting and facilitating freedom of expression throughout the online world. However, the Commission and the IT Companies recognise that the spread of illegal hate speech online not only negatively affects the groups or individuals that it targets, it also negatively impacts those who speak out for freedom, tolerance and non-discrimination in our open societies and has a chilling effect on the democratic discourse on online platforms.
In order to prevent the spread of illegal hate speech, it is essential to ensure that relevant national laws transposing the Council Framework Decision on combating racism and xenophobia are fully enforced by Member States in the online as well as the in the offline environment. While the effective application of provisions criminalising hate speech is dependent on a robust system of enforcement of criminal law sanctions against the individual perpetrators of hate speech, this work must be complemented with actions geared at ensuring that illegal hate speech online is expeditiously reviewed by online intermediaries and social media platforms, upon receipt of a valid notification, in an appropriate time-frame. To be considered valid in this respect, a notification should not be insufficiently precise or inadequately substantiated.
Vĕra Jourová, EU Commissioner for Justice, Consumers and Gender Equality, said, "The recent terror attacks have reminded us of the urgent need to address illegal online hate speech. Social media is unfortunately one of the tools that terrorist groups use to radicalise young people and racist use to spread violence and hatred. This agreement is an important step forward to ensure that the internet remains a place of free and democratic expression, where European values and laws are respected. I welcome the commitment of worldwide IT companies to review the majority of valid notifications for removal of illegal hate speech in less than 24 hours and remove or disable access to such content, if necessary."
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bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-05-31/tech-giants-vow-to-tackle-online-hate-speech-within-24-hours

(ckecke'ed) They knew how powerful memes are, and want to contain them. They are control freaks and fact that we can interfere with their narrative is making them crazy.

I'm waiting for muh Putin, savior of white race shills.

Jokes on them, the memetic dead hand should memes be stopped is The Happening itself.

That's the final meme.

Good bye russian anons it's been fun shit posting with you.

BASED

hon hon hon

All those poor whites are going to have to convert to Islamic gommunism in putin russia

Muh Putin! Muh censorship!

Islam and communism are outlawed in Russia. Putin hates kebab and commie fucks.


What exactly is that image supposed to prove?
Putin is a master of Realpolitik and mixed signals.

Putin isn't a WN, he is a civic nationalist. RIDF has been really effective fooling people here.

That was sarcasm. I hope so.

This isn't hard to believe, look how the left has destroyed the entirety of the west.

Seems like they're just trying to seal of the flood of POZ entering.

i agree, but how else do you stop degeneracy ?

Not surprised.

The Russian government is terrified that the yanks are gonna stage a coup in Russia.
The internet would be a key platform for them to accomplish this.

Good for them

Honestly considering the lazy NSA malware bloat no sane sovereign nation would connect to the WWW without massive antiviruses and firewalls protecting the country.


Eat shit and die motherfucker, you've killed the libertarian movement in its cradle.

What's group polarization for the future of my fucking race, Alex?

Both sides are most certainly preparing. I know for a fact that high ranking people in both "blocs" are getting ready for a major conflict.

But how possible is such conflict in reality? What if all of it is just one big scam to crack down on people's rights and enforce total information control 1984 style. Seeing the presence of (((certain tribe))) in both elites could mean that it is all just a smokescreen and a preparation for another stage of global domination. Never forget that for them, countries don't exist.

Even if physical war doesn't happen, where will this information war lead us? To complete ignorance and obliviousness? The power of internet was about making people share information that would not otherwise be accessible. About one idea competing with another. Now with all the shill armies, censorship, and now giant firewalls, it becomes practically impossible. What if that was the goal in the first place?

If you count it by bodies yea.

Hello there RIDF.


No leftists did you fag, AnCap only grew as a reaction to leftist infiltration of libertarianism.

Modern civilization consistently favours and rewards docile slave lines. No self reliance or independent thought in most people leads to the corrupt and broken nations we have now. If OP tried to fight the censorship, his neighbours would cheer as the Spetsnaz dragged him away to Gulag. This would not be because of the triumph of state propaganda, but the fact that hundreds of generations of poor breeding has created mostly Labrador tier Humans.

These national internet ideas are retarded.

businessinsider.com/now-germany-wants-its-own-internet-in-nsa-spying-wake-2013-10?IR=T