DC Comics Recreates Harvey Dent As Donald Trump – Making Gotham Golden Again

Comic book movies are a big product of the culture industry.
I don't know a single person who cares about comic books.

Next up: A nazi laughing man.

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Since the Jew revitalized the industry by pumping out a glut of comic book movies. Where have you been?

They even got the look right

What is this series?
Why are the Batgirls niggers?

To be honest, I haven't been keeping up with comic books at all. I just saw the news about this. I don't know who the ballcapped dindu batgirls are

Hollywood is irrelevant, Jew.

Your shit has been fading for a long, long time.

Just because you don't leave the house doesn't mean other people don't too. Movies are still a big industry.

Whoa, whoa, easy there with the jewccusations. Where i'm from, them's fightin' words, slick.

It's not "my shit"; i'm just pointing out how batshit that statement was.

Just because you don't interact with normies doesn't mean they don't exist, user.

Get a load of all these shills.

Jesus, I have a friend who's going off about the whole "Cap Hail Hydra" bullshit. Does nobody realize that nobody reads comics anymore? Sure, they play comic-based video games or see comic-based movies, but this bullshit doesn't make it into those, because those have to make money, and comics don't. Maybe if society continues its decline, in 20 years we'll see this shit in mediums that people actually care about, but not now, I think we're safe.

People don't read comics anymore because they're terrible and they have been for more than 15 years.

I knew Rebirth was too good to be true.

The problem with comics is that the talent pool is pozzed at this point. Even though DC seems to be making far more of an effort to resist and go back to the good old days than Marvel ever will under Brevoort, they still have to hire from the current crop of writers and artists known to them, and that crop is poisoned.

Thankfully, whoever this is has been shuffled onto a book literally no-one cares about that's only released digitally and not in print. So hopefully with Rebirth kicking off this'll quickly be swept under the rug and forgotten about.

What you don't get is today's comics pave the way for tomorrow's movies.

The comics I grew up reading years ago are becoming today's movies. Civil War, Death of Superman, etc. Same thing holds for today's comics, the ideas presented there are going to be movies in a couple decades.

Not with the way sales are going. Comic sales are in a nosedive.

Not really. They don't sell well enough any more for the higher-ups to care, and even then they'll likely only steal a catchy name (Age of Ultron, Civil War, etc) and completely change every other aspect.

You have to remember that Death of Superman shifted something like 2,000,000 copies.

Nowadays even the best-selling issue of Superman in years only sold 75,000 copies.

Comics are a dead medium at this point, unless a new crop of writers and artists appear to remove SJW, and the higher-ups get the idea through their thick skulls that pandering to Tumblr isn't a lifeline, it's a cyanide capsule.

I read Rebirth (bootlegged, of course) and loved it because they brought back White Wally West and basically apologized for wiping him out of existence.

DC and Marvel are overall evil, though.

Marvel did the same thing with Red Skull. His latest speech is ripped straight from Holla Forums

That isn't going to happen. The editors have all been major SJW kool aid drinkers for easily 25 years. The new writers and artists are there, but they won't get hired by the people who do the hiring because even if they are capable writers, failing to toe the line is a mortal sin and makes you unhirable.

I spent a significant portion of time trying to get into that industry about 20 years ago. They had zero interest in writers who weren't from the UK at the time, and once that faded out, it quickly became about the progressive stack and hailing it's virtues.

Marvel is owned by Disney. DC is owned by Warner. Both companies have pockets deep enough to absorb their comic losses as long as Cap's and Batman's keep pulling in billions. Hell, even relative unknown Deadpool just fucking crushed movie records.

Comics are IP farms. For pennies on the dollar writers create characters that go on to make billions in merchandising. Just a write off on the balance sheet, no different than an R&D budget.

I was there too, user. Pursued becoming a comic writer hard, then just burned out when I realized it's all politics and bullshit. It's all knowing the right people. I immersed myself in the biz, remember shitposting with Kirkman on forums back when he was just starting to self-publish, I remember him starting Funk-O-Tron, that's how far I go back.

Once read a story about some dumb bitch who happened to be fucking a writer at… DC I think it was. And his editor was like, "Hey, cum dumpster, you're fucking one of our writers, how'd you like to write something?" This was her gushing story of breaking in.

Meanwhile i'm giving blood sweat and tears and getting fucking nowhere. That was close to the last straw for me.

Was it Nancy A Collins?

Honestly can't remember. Whoever it was wrote a blogpost about it, as if it's no big deal her only qualifying feature for getting the job was having a cunt and offering it regularly to someone else on staff.

I read the panels in the link. It's not even good. When did Harvey Dent ever talk like that at all?
I'm left mostly confused and a little uncomfortable to be observing the writers' and artists' behavior, like if I was in the room while they got into a really stupid argument with someone.
I know this will be lovingly embraced by GIRL POWER XDXDXD Wired Magazine subscriber types, but in my experience the primary consumers of comic books are still fat nerds who aren't afraid to yell when they think something is shitty, and this is definitely shitty. Is this really gonna fly?

Sorry to hear that. I too wanted to work in comics when I was younger, but I got more into painting and visdev, so now I'm self-teaching to get into advertising, films, games - whichever will offer me a steady paycheque first.

Do you guys have any more old comic stories? Sounds like you're about ten years older than I am, would love to hear some dirt.

I think it was. FUnny thing about her. She knew nothing about comics when she was hired. They paid her to read comics for six months before they started giving her assignments for the book they'd assigned her to.

Swamp Thing. They gave her Swamp Thing without ever having read it. Ever.

If this shit is the norm, it sounds like creators left out in the cold would be better off starting their own industry, like the French writers and artists did with Metal Hurlant when they couldn't find publishers who'd let them tell the stories they wanted to.

It is extremely hard to motivate people to produce product without financial compensation for their time. I've tried it a bunch of time. Pretty much everyone flakes out in a very short period of time.

Distribution and stuff aside, in order to get content, you have to pay for it.

Well obviously. Might be an idea to look for some angel investment and treat it like really starting a business rather than an art collective.

The internet has pretty much leveled the playing field. That'll probably be my next move. Fuck it, link up with an artist and just start putting my shit up online.

Funny thing about that "itch", it never goes away. Once it's in your blood it's always there.

Yeah, this. I've had artists start doing amazing fucking work. Then halfway through they stop emailing you back. A week goes by, no contact, then they offer some half-assed excuse, oh I was on vacation, my dog died, whatever shit, then promise to get back to it.

Then comes another 2, 3 weeks, a month of them stringing you along then finally they get up the nerve to just come out and tell you they can't do it. That or you just never hear from them again.

First thing to know about this business, artists are notoriously fickle. My firm rule is this, two days without response to an email or call or text and you might as well start looking for someone else. If you're paying, however, it's a different story. If you have a decent paying job and can make some sort of pay schedule with your co-creators, thing will go a lot smoother. You'll still get flakers but not nearly as many.

Long reply, I know but you sound like you might be interested in this crazy ass biz. Just an old, bitter quasi-vet offering some advice.

Also, things like Patreon/GoFundMe have changed things too. Those have many of the same problems, the projects that get funded usually have to have the blessings of the same gatekeepers, but if you have genuine talent your project might stand out.

Angel investors would give money to an indie comic company that played to the progressive stack. They would not give money to one that provided quality content.

The idea is that you don't pay them until they turn in the work on time. If they are late, they lose money.

You should track down Rich Johnston's old 'Lying in the Gutters' column if you want dirt. Same guy who does Bleeding Cool now. He was like comics' National Enquirer back in the day.
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Pretty fucking clutch, tbh. Might have to use this.

Comics are created by beta faggots for beta faggots…

What you do is this; you offer them X for on time, Y for up to a week late, and Z for between one and two weeks late. Maybe a bonus of A for early.

That way, they can't start snivelling about how you never set a deadline or something. Which they will fucking do.

I'm an artist.

Unless I'm absolutely convinced there's going to be a rewarding outcome, I don't work for free. I can't afford to. It takes hours of concentrated effort every day to produce good artwork. Not to mention the cost of materials, digital equipment, software, etc. Then factor in living costs.

Think of it this way: an electrician isn't going to work 16 hours of his day on something for someone else out of the goodness of his heart. At some point the necessity of earning money to keep a roof over your head takes over.

There's nothing wrong with your outlook. However, it is common for people to attempt to create content with others with the intention of sharing ownership or some amount of returns. Every media form has some amount of that as at least an early business model. You could get paid by the hour or piece to draw mayonaise jars all day. Or you could invest the time and become a founding participant of the thing that got you into art.

Personally, I only do anything when the terms are clear and money exchanges hands.

Absolutely. I completely understand this part. It takes a fuckton of effort to churn out quality work. I'm completely upfront with my artists; let them know it's work on spec. I also stress they're free to quit at any time if they can't do it. Just LET ME KNOW. No harm done, we shake hands and go our way.

And most of them STILL can't be upfront with me. The next time I try something like it, i'll definitely make sure I can pay something. Question, as an artist, how many pages do you think you could turn out for like $500 a month. Yes, I realize normal page rate is about $100 a page. (At least, last I checked.) Just ballpark it, if you were really intrigued by the project but still have to eat.

If I met someone and felt I absolutely had to collaborate with them, if we were sparking ideas off each other like two pieces of flint, then I'd definitely consider entering into a creative partnership.

Unfortunately, I haven't to date.

Fair enough, the inability to communicate is pretty shitty. I remember Jodorowsky once said that artists are like children, they marry strong women because they need a mother to look after them.

I honestly have no idea. I gave up on comics long ago after seeing just how pozzed the field was getting and how astonishingly shitty the pay was vs a field like advertising. Nowadays I do either fully-rendered paintings or quick, sketchy storyboards. I haven't tried doing a full comic page in ages.

A good comic artist is supposed to be able to hit a page a day. I'd say realistically for that price maybe ten pages a month? Would obviously take longer to get a book together but might be worth taking the hit if you can find a good artist and the work is coming together at a high level of quality.

how are they shills if they advocate for the destruction of Hollywood's pseudo-culture, just because they are noting that it is a major thing still relevant to everyday people?

Should I lobotomize myself to get on your level or what?

Bout $50 a page, what I was thinking. Which would work out to three pages a week, give or take, sorta like the penny arcade model. Been really tempted at giving this a run. Once we get a decent number of pages out, collect them into trades. Amazon has a pretty fucking cool print to order deal. They only print what you order, you need one book they print one book. Which means no backstock, no overhead. We sell them as fans order them.

This isn't a come on or anything, but you wouldn't happen to have any of your work anywhere we could check out? Just curious. I understand if you'd rather not out yourself here.

Cape comics were full of kikes from the start.

Have you seen the new Judge Dredd comics? I bought the most recent one on a whim because I have some older comics that are really cool, killing junkies and gang members all that shit.

This comic was something else tho, I couldn't even finish it I was so enraged. I'm upset I spent money on it and gave money to the kikes and cucks who made it.

Well here was the basic plot.

So… it's an attack on pornography and the upcoming sex robot revolution. They really don't want men having any enjoyment that they don't control.

Not surprised. This isn't about diversity. This is an assault. It's about taking all the icons you hold sacred and desecrating them. Then once you complain (see Ghostbusters, Thor, Spider-man etc) they'll call you a shitlord misogynist.

They are deliberately targeting the icons you like most. That's the point.

My IP just auto-changed btw. Fucking comcast. This is me.

Jokes on them. My hero is the Red Skull.

That is pretty enraging.
They can't delete all the Dredd that exists, though. Fuck 'em. I know who Judge Dredd is.

Wew lads, that sounds like absolute shit. In the time i've been away from comics, they have gone completely to shit. I've wanted to go back and start reading them, maybe even try to break in, but is this what I have to look forward to.

I had to find something that won't give me away now this place is getting an archive (seriously, fuck archives - there's a reason BBS threads 404).

Here's some quick overpaints I did when I was in a weird mood over on cuckchan /ic/.

I don't think I'm the guy for you, like I said I mostly do illustrative/fully rendered stuff. Best of luck finding an artist, though.

Why don't faggots like you just digitally self publish and/or secure enough funds through kikestarter for a limited print run?

Because there's a huge market for good comicbooks that's currently untapped. If even the Christ-chan retard can write a million volume comic then why can't you put something together?

The comic industry rose from nothing. You can rise from nothing.

Because it would cost a fuck load of money to create enough content for it to be worth it. Nobody will donate to a noname kikestarter that doesn't have some sort of built in audience. That's why SJW shit gets money. They have a built in audience.

Start streaming drawing, and make amazing shit. Some guy recently hand animated frame-by-frame a pilot episode for his furry starfox show and got drowned in patreonbux. He streams every day and has a project that hypes people, he created his own audience.

Working on it, bro. Hell, the more I talk about it here the higher the fire rises. Soon.

Fucking nice, bro.

Fucking cucks. They can't leave anything good or entertaining alone.

I don't draw. I write. Rather well, but there's nothing you can do with writing like that. Good advice for drawfags, though.

Same here. I wish there was an IRL Holla Forumsish writers guild or something. I don't know any Holla Forumsacks IRL.

Advice still stands. Put your stuff up online. Start a blog, write a chapter a week, put out eBooks, record yourself reading your stuff and put audiobooks on YouTube to get your name out there. If you want to do this, just do it. Don't expect to do it for a million dollars, do it because you love doing it.

That isn't great advice for a writer. Once you self publish, nobody else will want to publish the material. The value in writing is experiencing the story. People don't really read anymore, so that's a dead market for newcomers. Puting up scripts instantly devalues the script because everyone who sees it will know exactly how the story would turn out if it were produced in some format.

That just isn't how it works for writers. That 50 shades of grey chick just lucked out. And she just wrote fanfic.

And then they get thrown in jail for disrespecting a judge

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Gotta read between the lines OP.

The point is for writers who can't get a deal anyway, just put your stuff out there.

Oh, and that success story was 50 shades of horseshit. That bitch was a fucking TV producer. They neglected to mention that little tidbit in her rags to riches story. I'm sure none of her (((connections))) helped her get the write-ups, or choice placement in bookstores that made her book so red hot. Oh, no sir, not one bit.

All you guys in here, talking about publishing comics don't realize how easy it is to self publish. Get together, do your thing, when it's done, find someone that will print zines, I know of a few, and get them printed. Then, either hand them out on the streets, leave free copies around the city, or find a distribution group for them. You can make 350 44 page, comic sized zines for 17.99. Self-publications are already so horribly infested with SJWs, it's time someone did something about it. They literally attack and harass any distro company that isn't peddling their marxist shit.

Also, just did a quick google search and… *GASP* she's of (((the tribe))).

Do fucking what? I call bullshit, user. There's no way. The paper costs alone… or was that a typo?

Independent artists/printers can be based.

Yeah, that was a typo. I was looking at the cost of something online and had 17.99 in my head. You could make them for under 50 or maybe 40 cents each, depending on how many pages they are.

Ahh, fuck, love me some Warren Ellis. He's one of my strongest influences. Paradoxically, his work tends to be anti-establishment and redpill as fuck but in his personal life he runs in some very sjw circles and has lots of radfem friends. No idea what to make of the fellow. Fuckit, long as he keeps that bullshit out of his comics work.

The problem is that eventually you'll run out of famous comicbook storylines to adapt and you'll be left either repeating the same stories (surprisingly, that hasn't happened yet. Even origin stories tend to take influence from different sources every time they repeat), or using the SJW stories, which will be the death blow.

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Exactly. That's what i'm telling you guys, comic movies are going to be pozzed as fuck 20 years from now; they'll only have this sjw shit to draw from.

The really fun part is, the movies are going to stop pulling in big shekels and Goldbergstein and co. won't have a clue why. They're only shooting themselves in the foot in the long run.

Same reason Hollywood keeps remaking and rebooting. No new ideas and the only new voices allowed in get there through nepotism and not actual talent. Such a system can't sustain itself though. I'll at least get to enjoy watching the system fail through deficit of talent.

We need to help crashing it with torrents and whatever can help making these whores broke, but something I fear is something some user said a while back. Something like hollywood going to the govt and asking for free shit to help saving the beautiful American industry that is movies and then they'll take money from people's wallet to pay for degenerates to pretend to be someone else on screen.

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Why tow face green now? Even Tommy lee twoface looks better than this

People will have gotten sick of comic book movies waaay before then. It's a fad. Just like EVERY 90's sitcom was about middle class niggers, or every 80's show was about Private Investigators.

What the fuck its fucking VR its not even real

This is just a taste of how these feminists and leftists in general view the idea of virtual reality and advanced artificial vaginas as other anons have pointed out, they dont want us to have shit

Ultimate kek

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This is getting so fucking out of hand.

Come on, OP.

Not manga though. The Japs have no propaganda in their entertainment.

Sauce? I wanna see it with my own eyes, laugh and make some OC out of it.

I remember some of those threads. Nice to see moar drawfags here.

MAKE GOTHAM GREAT AGAIN

The night is darkest before the Don
AND I PROMISE YOU, THE DON IS COMING

>Soon all the characters villains will be TRUMP.

ftfy

Do you have the title of that, or some source?
I can't believe this happened to Dredd, of all comic characters.

First Marvel and now DC?

Are they trying to redpill people or are they just that clumsy?

Aren't they doing this because comic book sales were dying?

What do you mean?

I stopped reading comics years ago, but I still like that one

KEK nice brainwashing bruv!!

it was for op. comics have sjw versions now because only sjws would waste money on comics these days

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After watching the 50 shades debacle play out, I think it's safe to say this is every woman's fantasy.

Noice.
Capped.

So this is literally the third anti-Trump propaganda THEY produced in the past week.

First its Captain America being a sekret ebil nadsay, then its the red skull shitlord wanting to not get culturally enriched(using Trump's talking points), and now they're literally using Trump's political slogan with a 3rd character.

They're not even trying to be subtle anymore.

We are trying to get rid of the fascist. what do you think?
They literary gassed 12 000 000 jews

If this is what the future of virtual reality will be like then I was truly born in the wrong generation

Comics, at a bare minimum, are yet another product of pop culture that lefties use to reinforce their beliefs in others.

Yes, comics don't sell well anymore, but that doesn't stop the ideas expressed in them being shared around by thousands of lefties looking for another opportunity to pat their own ideologies on the back, and in doing so link the ideas expressed within to the concepts the images convey.

Opportunities for celebration equal opportunities for them to believe in their views that much more.

These being the IDW Dredd comics, right? Because I've only missed a couple months worth of megazines and I've not seen any bullshit like this.

tl;dr: comics aren't read much anymore, but their images are still passed around the same as memes and have pretty much the same effect - strengthening an echochamber.

so, unlike the west, they have no excuse?

ComicGate is now a meme.

You know what to do

this

What are you talking about?
Gate is like Major propaganda about grorios nippon.

Kinda funny. Has an interesting hidden redpill. Either the work of extremely clever Holla Forumsack infiltrators or an extremely convenient coincidence.

How do the kikes make significant changes to a country again?

And what does Definitely-Not-Donald-Trump do according to what she says?

Comics are fun, that's why.

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The comic books themselves are worthless, Hollywood is adapting stories from years ago, most of them several decades old. Comics are barely functioning as tie-ins for the movies.

JSDF
this is the biggest jew show i've seen

Real professionalism in the arts these days, I tell you.

Your nose is showing.

This guy gets it. It's the same thing with video games, television, movies, memes, and music. Media is a very powerful tool, only a shill would deny that and push against paying attention to what's being done to media or trying to fix it.

If you can run ads on your website, do it. It'll be something.