What would you do instead if you were Hitler?

What went wrong?

The National Socialist Worker Party has just been elected, and the drastic measures to rebuild Germany from the unfair treatment that was Versailles has only just begun.

Armed with the historical knowledge of a faggot from 2016, what would you have done instead to divert history's course to steer Nazi Germany from ruin?

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In hindsight very little.

What WW2 boils down to is a struggle between three different and irreconcilable world views:

Liberalism (represented by the Western Allies)

Communism (represented by the Soviet Union)

Nationalism (represented by the Axis)

Liberalism and Communism decided to team up temporarily against what they both regarded as the biggest threat (Nationalism) and the rest is history.

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Do like Stalin and purge the high command and replace them with people who earned their position instead of being there only because they are aristocratic treacherous fuck.

Hitler should have avoided war with western europe at any cost. maybe even waited until the soviets inevitably declared war.
1 country couldn't fight the entire world and hope to win. if the 3rd reich had been invaded by the ussr, maybe the west would have joined in on his side.

I wouldn't have antagonized the west. Instead, build up forces for an attack on Russia. With no other major fronts to deal with, Russia, especially with an offensive initiated at the tail end of winter (so that the weather for most of the year would be more favorable to the Reich's infantry), could've and likely would've fallen. Instead, Hitler spread his forces out too much and picked a fight with too many people. A conquered Russia would've been an enormous benefit to the Reich, and always should've been the first priority, or at least the second after Poland.

The invasion of France was a mistake, at least so early on.

Allying with the Japs was a retarded move too, since they didn't help jack shit in Europe (nor could they, seeing how thinly they were spread out around Asia and the South Pacific to begin with) and only got the Americans involved, further fucking Hitler's situation.

Guilt Denmark into helping their Finnbros blow Soviets the fuck out of Karelia, offer them Schleswig-Holstein and hope the can drag Norway along. Give the entirety of Belarus and Ukraine to Poland in exchange for pre WW1 borders rather than ever allying Soviets.

Look at the contemporary Americans.
They elected a literal kike socialist (FDR).
They put up with gold confiscation, which was nationwide and for ALL Americans. The kikes didnt get BTFO this hard even in the Third Reich.
40% of the force that composed of the US Army that invaded were volunteers. And just a decade earlier, the US gov massacred WW1 veterans demanding their pays.
And the good goyim still willingly fight for them.
If there werent enough volunteers, they would just draft the rest like they drafted 60% to fight a foreign war.
Like the first user said, there was little that could have been done. We should be grateful that half of Europe didnt end up in communism.
The only thing I can think of is not allying with Japan. But knowing the kikes, that wouldnt have matter one bit.

Hm, perhaps you're right. But the real question is whether kike influence was nearly as big back then as it is now, and if it would've been enough to convince western powers to fight a defensive war with Soviet Russia, which was the political antithesis of the west.

That's the interesting thing about history. You'll never know how else things could've gone down. All I know is that whatever failure Nazi Germany may have inevitably faced, Hitler only hastened it. As fantastic a leader as he was, he didn't have a particularly grand idea on how to fight a war.

Not attack Stalingrad…

Loop around the city and cross the Volga at seemingly unimportant rail and bridge crossings. Starve the city into submission just like Leningrad.

Remove forces from Norway and Sweden, and focus them in the East. Order the Italians to stop dicking around, and get the Spanish involved as well.

Also, not declare war on the United States. That was stupid and irrational. Also order the Japs to hit the Soviets from the East and guarantee them all of the oil they want from the Caucuses.


But 20-20 hindsight…

Loop around the city and cross the Volga at seemingly unimportant rail and bridge crossings. Starve the city into submission just like Leningrad.

The thing is that the reports the Oberkommando der Wehrmacht was receiving most of the time were compromised. Wilhelm Canaris,the chief of the German military intelligence service, Was a traitor and did everything his power to ruin the war effort.


Again the guy who was supposed to make the deal with Spain to join the axis was a traitor and crashed it with no survivor.


He did it in hope for the Japs to join the war against the soviet but they didn't. Also the USA was already pretty much in an undeclared war against Germany anyways.

Don't attack the US and ask them to help me fight the Soviet Union instead by convincing them that they would be a threat to them in the future I guess.
If that doesn't work then I would just not attack the Soviet Union at all or at least postpone the attack and focus on conquering England first.

I wouldn't start WWII and get Danzig 10 years later through diplomacy.

This. Defeating England would have driven the British command to Canada and prevented D-day.

Let Rommel destroy the BEF at Dunkirk

Yeah he wanted to project the image that Germany was strong a bit too much on that.

But again the Poles would have considered their pacts if it wasn't for Britain encouraging them to sable rattling.

Wouldn't have worked. Stalin was already planning to screw over Hitler to begin with. All focusing on the west would've done is lead to a surprise vodka bottle shoved up Hitler's ass.

Holy fuck, reading about this French Italian subhuman filth makes me wants to puke.
Disgusting.

Him and his treacherous bodies basically ruined the war.


They continued to do that shit after the allies told them they wouldn't accept a peace treaty even if they took power.

The most disgusting thing about this is reading how good goyim rationalize his treachery.
It is so disgusting. Some people even presented them with the Iraq war analogy, then they just said "it isnt the same". Despicable.
Not to mention they are suddenly a ok with soldiers playing politics in a final, global war.

The day when we turn on them, they will know the full extend of our wrath.

Lol, I have read that kike FDR at the end termed them "East German Junkers" (Prussian noble), which basically means he shitcanned them after they ceased to be useful.
Then the scum were executed. Justice somewhat served I guess.

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Example.
Disgusting. And the good goy/kike is trying to tell us that Assange wont get several new breathing holes if he get back to the US. Or getting a car accident.

I hate all them. This is precisely why the majority of Holla Forums and so many other people have given up on "rational discussion" and liberal democracy. By pretending to be "rational", I have to stand in one place and listen to their bullshit "arguments".
With scum like this, there is no debate. Only high velocity projectiles.

I know Im just ranting at this point, but the last post of the thread
Sandeep probably wasnt one of us, but he had a rational outlook on the issue of loyal to one's country in a total war.
The Swedish mod removed his last posts after the kikes spew bullshit about the US being "human rights concious" and of course, the Holohoax, which somehow justifies high treason.
Im sick of this shit.
Kill them all.

There is a David Irving video somewhere where he claims that Hitler declared war on america because he got pressured from navy since they couldnt shoot at american ships filled with supplies. Hitler was not an irrational man and he would make such a big move If there wasnt good reasons for it.

I'd let them build the jet instead of 'muh fighter-bombers'

During the invasion of the Soviet Union, I would not have diverted center army's panzer division south. Instead i would have let them take Moscow.

Although i think it's the nips fault for not having an invasion plan on the Soviet Union. This allowed for the soviets to reinforce the front, grinding the invasion to a halt.

Germany had shit allies

The big Nazi's military defeats can be attributed to sabotage from within. Hitler didn't do much about it before it was too late, probably because he was in denial about the extent to which he was being betrayed.

To be honest, Hitler should have done a Stalin lite and made sure everyone was at least loyal to the cause.
German expansionism is inline with the wish of the NSDAP. Any faggot that tried to play both soldiers and politics out of that should have been memory holed.

This. Hitler get into Poland because Prussians were getting kicked there. Hitler's entire legitimacy rested on his promise of the protection of the German people.
If he showed weakness to people who were actively killing Germans, the whole thing would have crumbled.


Yup. He didnt nip the prententious Junker, and they fucked him and Germany through their short sightedness and stupidity.

They had a plan, Operation Kantokuen, already approved. They would had attacked in August 1941. It was canceled days before launching the attack. I personally believe that, confronted by both the Japanese and the German army, the USSR would had fallen. Japan would had get the resources it needed without bringing the US into the war and the axis would had won.

To be honest, past '36 Hitler wasn't very rational. He was fed a steady diet of amphetamines, barbiturates, cocaine and especially meth. His "doctor" was feeding him dozens of questionable pills.

Poland was just allround very aggresive. They mobilized thier army way before germany did. And contrayier to popular belifes Poland wasnt all weak and muh horses like you hear today. They even won a minor conflict vs soviet a couple of years before ww2.
Richard Tedor does a fairly good job talking about this in his book Hitler's revolution.

Hindsight is always 20/20. It's way too easy to judge in the now what could've been changed, but at the expense of today. This book gave me a lot of ideas back in the day.

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However, I think the decay would be inevitable. The world, mostly the Western world, wasn't ready for the ideas back then and it needed to be globalized like it is now in order to be successful in the long-term. In fact we'd maybe have staved off the problems and decay world wide by a couple decades at most. It's because we can reflect and look back on the past that the entire European peoples around the world are able to see each others situation as one in the same. Petty indifference's don't matter at the moment as this struggle globally is all of our burdens. The only problem with that thinking is that we're not at an advanced state where we can have an honest conversation knowing where we'll be in the next 10 or 50 years. We don't control our destiny and that makes it far easier to reflect on the past in a positive light rather than the now with our future in consideration.

Americans have it harder to find justification for entering the war.

Manpower needed to help him will end up on the eastern front where it's needed

Same as above.

Unicorn fantasy then. US geopolitical goal was to destroy Japan's grasp in the Pacific.
Consider how easily they steamrolled Japs, Japan was doomed, with or without official military intervention.


Of course. They were fed bullshit by the Brits. The smarter Poles acknowledge this.
Joseph Beck was a weak and vain person.
"Extend the red carpet by 10m"
"Play 3 military orchestra".

I never believed that they would make claims like taking Berlin in 2 weeks without some serious balls to back them up.

Crush the Brits at Dunquerque


It really bit him back in the ass at the Winter War. The only reason I like it because it killed commies. and kikes

Also assassinate Roosevelt and Churchill.

Easiest question ever.

I would gas 'em all for real.

can't win a war without killing the enemy, hurr durr here on the train to palenstein you go didn't work

Even if that were the case, the fall of the USSR would had benefited the axis.

Hitler fucked over Europe.

Had it not been for the extreme he went to and for giving the Jewssss casus beli to always cry victim Europe would not be so cucked today.

Hitler winning>Hitler not doing anything>Hitler losing(what happened)

The only thing different I would do would be to not try and conquer so many countries in such a small time frame.

And to do everything possible to avoid a two-front war.

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Check my Hitler dubs

But what if we only purge the petty ones or the truly iredeemable?
No nation will ever have all of its citizens being lovey dovey with everyone.
Keep the nobles who were loyal and have common interests and didnt try politics, and purge any fuckers that have proven to be a snake.

This. Hitler had the British in too high esteem.

It's kinda funny when i look back at history class from like 7th grade when we talked about ww2 and our teacher basically told us that Poland was totally defenceless peasant with horses and a few rifles to defend himself. And Hitler just invaded them because he wanted world domination.

It is like they never expected us to use the internet. I mean for all the victim mentality by some Poles, they sure did try to forget the interwar period.

I would tell the party leaders not to invade any countries, even poland and czechoslovakia, especially not fucking russia.

we would still have a nationalist reich had they avoided only that

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Yeah but in the time that Stalin was preparing for his attack I could've conquered England which would increase the size of my army.

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what the fuck do you think obama and sanders are?

Got the same shit until high school, in elemantary school they just told us Hitler basically wanted to control the entire world as if he was a badly written supervillain.

The biggest mistake Hitler made was not destroying the jewish race. You can't imprison them there forever, you either kill them or they kill you.

On a related not, did any of your good goyim teachers told you and the class straight the face that Jews are the real masterrace?
Even as a 5th grader that instantly didnt click well with me. Wasnt ww2's legitimacy was that it was a fight against "racism"?

Don't worry I'll keep a secret button in Eagles Nest hooked up to some ICBMs so if I kick the bucket I can quickly kill every Jew in Madagascar before I go.

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I dont think you understand how hard it is to invade an island like Britain. Especially when britain has sea dominance and germany isn't prepared for an amphibious attack.

The goals of Hitler's allies were far different than his own. There was nothing he could have done to have made things better.

Italy wants to recreate Rome.
Hungary was just a leech.
Japan wants to dominate the Pacific.

Maybe he could have convinced Mussolini to help more on the eastern front by saying once the main threats (UK and Russia) are dealt with they can recreate Rome with explicit help of Germany.

But there was no convincing Japan to abandon their goals to wage war with the Soviets. They wanted to dominate the Pacific.

Not try to invade the soviet union, follow the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact and double up defenses in the case the Russians try to break the pact themselves.

Don't waste the Luftwaffe on Britain when it will accomplish absolutely nothing. Don't worry about africa. Focus on building a successful country rather than conquest, let my successor worry about expansionism. That's the problem here, Hitler rushed things way too quickly, he needed to redouble rather than throw the whole army at a place.

don't round up the Jews and put them in camps, use the ghettos and when the times right buy off Madagascar from the British and dump them there

If they hadn't made the first move the (((allies)) would have. The world was heading for a war and nothing was gonna stop that.

In hindsight, go into Africa first to get that oil, proxy war with France.

Fake diplomacy as long as possible, even appearing weak - all the while build up munitions, supplies, defense.

He failed to properly separate the German American people from the war, he did not drive that wedge hard enough.

Final solution. If you are going to be blamed for it anyway, just round the the jews up and make fertilizer for the crops. All women and children, fertilizer. Keep the men healthy slaves, let them die off and replace them with Germans as the population booms.

Assassinate jewish media propagandists in the UK and United States.

Slower and steadier march to world war, preparing for an extended cold war with soviet union.

Nope, that I've never heard. Jews are like 0,2% of the population here and most of them live in the capital city so most people here don't really give a fuck about them, they just assume the holocaust to be a fact but don't really sympathise with any of its "victims".

Nice idea, don't show mercy to people who wouldn't show mercy to you if they had the chance.

Cant say they did. They just told us that jews was an oppressed group that was an easy scapegoat.

The Luftwaffe accomplished quite a lot, the problem was that they switched from military targets to civilian, thanks to Churchill.

False. Had Hitler kept it up Britain would have fallen. Surely the execution could have been much better, but the British Air Force was on it's last leg.

I know that nobody really realized how much oil is in northen africa. But they were still valuable and Germany needed the raw resources coming through there.

Hitler's legitimacy was based on protecting Germans. He HAD to take back the lost land.

The only thing I agree. Maybe false flag them into an uprising later after victory and deal with them for good :3
Still too many kikes in the US though.
The war would have happened anyway.

This.

Maybe because Im in an Asian country so people are more blunt about racial issues, albeit misguided.

No, Fascism. Nationalism is not Fascism. I'm not a Fascist, but I am a Nationalist. In part, anyway. I hold Nationalist views. Most Americans in the '40s were Nationalists, but had a different view on how the government should be run.

Germany declared war on the united states first in response to Japan pressuring Germany to follow them into their war with the US. Without the Japanese alliance Hitler wouldn't have had any reason to declare war on the US and and the American people (nor congress) would have ever backed a war with Germany, that's why the US didn't declare war until after Pearl Harbor and after a deceleration of war from Hitler despite Roosevelts tacit aid and support of the allied powers.


Roosevelts gold confiscation wasn't as draconion as libertarians make it out to be, it was stupid and directly contributed to the severity of the great depression but individuals were not required to turn over their gold if they possessed less than $100 (whatever that exchanges modernly) or if their gold was of special value or were collectible pieces and the gold turned over was exchanged for it's value in cash.


Hot blooded off of Pearl Harbor, you saw the same thing immediately following 9/11. When young men see their nation getting attacked they don't really care about the details they just want to go out and shoot whoever was complicit in their attack, by declaring war on the US with Japan, Hitler put Germany right in line of that blind nationalist revenge, if he had thrown japan under the bus and courted US sympathy the Americans would not have targeted them, keep in mind we're still in a period where the largest immigrant population in the united states is German, the entire midwest was populated by them.

Yes, the US was still backing england and france but US support hadn't hindered Hitler too greatly in the past, it was having US troops on the ground that fucked Hitler, it made world war 2 a war of attrition on such a cale that there was just no way to win, not after the entire war prior to direct US involvment.

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I thought asians were actually more based when it came to their views on WWII than people in the west

When asked what he would have changed by one of his officers, he said nothing. The international Jewish bankers wanted a war with Germany because Germany cut out the banks. He said that 1) soviets were planning in invading anyway and those international Jews were planning to manipulate a war at any costs.

If he had waited or done nothing, it would have been even worse.

There was no tangible goal in bombing the UK, a full invasion would have been suicide and the isles isn't particularly useful.


German influence east Russia is tumultuous at best. I don't doubt the Germanic tribes occupied the region but the German empire never occupied the region. Let the slavs have it, its better to build a successful but small country than to build an empire that'll collapse under its own weight. The United States managed to amass the land it has because they bought the land bit by bit and slowly spread out.

if Hitler had retaken the land lost in WW1 and stuck with that then he would have been a lot more successful, no one argues that the land was stolen from them outright but trying to take Russia in less than 6 months is just being greedy.

Hitler's second book is very relevant.
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"Arsenal of Democracy" was already in full effect before the war.
And like I said, they literally massacred WW1 vets in Washington and Americans still went voluntarily to fight for kikes.

Still draconian for a country claims to stand for muh freedumb.

Does it matter? Because 60% were still drafted.

Not true. The commies with their limitless number and intact industries are responsible for the vast majority of German's defeats.
Americans just swooped in to claim credit.


We are. But the whole money is everything mentality is stronger.
Kikes are the ultimate symbol of money and they undeniably make the US their bitches.
So they are more popular here, unfortunately. And we are ex commies too.
But still, Im here, heh?


Thats true. But that wasnt what Germans wanted. Even the traitorous Prussian nobles didnt give two shit about slavs. In fact, they fucking hated them.
It was going to happen. Hitler retook the old imperial land, the Poles would have fought to death. And they did.

Danzig was lost imperial land too. It was used as casus belli.

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This, and I would've focused more on Rommel in the Middle East after France surrendered in 1940. Britain was poorly equipped in the ME, and it would have fallen into German hands along with the Mediterranean, Suez, and North Africa.

The resources of oil and whatnot would've greatly contributed to the war effort.

Danzig was a lost cause to begin with. The people there didn't want anything to do with the Reich, they fought tooth and nail to stay out.

You'll notice that all the territory that was taken back the Germans that lived there were ecstatic about being able to rejoin their people, Danzig was the clear exception to that.

The point is that ALL Germans back then (excluding cucks and communist tiny minority), regardless of how they viewed the Führung, wanted the imperial Vaterland back.
It was going to happen. And Germans in Danzig were still Germans and they did cry for help.

1. pulled the wehrmacht out of the russian winter

2. prepared another front running from east prussia down thru poland, ready for another blitzkrieg if and when the russians return. Blitzkrieg in poland was always an easy win for the Wehrmacht. Stalemate sniping in russian cities was a dreadful way to fight, also bear in mind the supply line situation

3. Pacted with Franco, who was already on good terms with Hitler, and sent forces into south Spain to take Gibraltar, an essential strategic point, securing the med, south Europe and North Africa.

3b. So much less need for troops in Africa. No Afrika Corps

4. Much more focus on air superiority vs the RAF. the RAF and the USAF bombed germany back to the stone age. Bomb England much more, and don't give them an inch

5. No wasting sending lots of troops into Norway. So what if the allies try to invade Europe via Norway? There is no highway from Norway into central Europe.

but really, the war was drawn up and won by the jews long before Germany invaded Poland. Read ' the bad war ' for a few of the moves the jews were playing up to 1938 to maneuver Germany into a lost war.

I never understood how stupid all the traitors in the Reich were.
Why didn't they understand that the war was against Germany, not Hitler?
Killing Hitler would not have helped anyone but the enemies of Germany.

ELIMINATE THIS WOMAN

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She was directly responsible for the abdication of King Edward VIII, who favored peace with the Nazis. With Edward VIII gone, all hope of good relations with Germany vanished.

I never understood how stupid all the traitors in America are.
Why don't they understand that the war is against whites, not against the US as a country.
Letting in all these non-whites only helps the Jews.

Cuck's gonna cuck.

Americans at least got the benefits that comes with being a superpower, the German traitors got nothing but humiliation and death.

Pure coincidence, goyim.
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They were too petty.

He was banging dozens of them, any of which the kikes could have scandalized

Doesn't matter. He openly wanted to marry Wallis, which was something the royal family could not cover up.

Japan was provoked into attacking the U.S. The idea that the U.S. Was "forced into the war" is a Jew lie. FDR knew there was an attack coming but didn't tell anyone, hoping the "surprise" attack would help catapult us into war. They had been abusing Japan for a long time, hoping to goad an attack.

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Also Russia was about to invade. Please look into Operation Groza. Here's a discussion defence.pk/threads/operation-groza-soviet-invasion-of-western-europe-july-6-1941.293859/page-2

Operation Barbarossa preempted Operation Groza by a mere 19 days or so. The reason the attack went so well was because Russia was in "offensive" mode- preparing to invade, lots of paratroopers etc and was not prepared for defense.

Basically there was almost nothing he could have done different. Hitlers bucking of the international Jewish banking industry had provoked them. International Jewry had declared war on Germany not long after nazis came to power and they used media powers to bring the combined forces of capitalism and communism down on national socialism.

Oh also the invasion of Poland was because ethnic Germans were being slaughtered there and it was their land anyway. It was the German people that wanted hitler to attack and save their people. They would have lost significant face if they had allowed the slaughter/abuses/rapes of ethnic Germans to continue unabated.

Allying with the Japs wasn't completely retarded, it was just that the alliance didn't even work together.

If the Germans and Nippons coordinated a two pronged attack on USSR before going to war with America, there's a high chance they could have dismantled it

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This might work if I hadnt been here for a long time, kike.

Wait to attack the soviets(just leave Poland split until later) until Britain had been dealt with. Two fronts was too much.
Train Italian troops with some German soldiers and tacticians because the Italians couldn't fight for shit.
Build more submarines to make it harder for Americans to resupply Britain.
Focus more on Africa and acquire more oil and other resources.
Possibly buddy up with Russia for the time being to boost trade and thus the war effort.

Well the US was forced into the war. The Japs wanted to strongarm the US back into selling them oil for their war in China.

It is well within the right of the United States to refuse to sell a particular resource to a nation that attacks an ally. Same goes for any other nation. You dont get to launch a military attack for resources and cry "b-but you made me attack b-because you wouldnt give me oil!". That argument is the biggest pile of bullshit.

The idea that the Japs should or would be allowed to chimp out over the Pacific Ocean plus the entire continent of Asia and take other nation's shit without consequences is insane.

Japs fucked up and expanded WW2 greatly.

Got Britain involved with the issue of Poland genociding ethnic Germans.

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Despite what the Roosevelt administration wanted, the overwhelming majority of Americans did not want another large war. Without Japan the US could not have gotten involved militarily. At worst it would have taken years of purposely deliberately building up tensions for it to happen, which would be years more than Hitler got in real life. So yes.

The USA was repeating its WW1 plan.

Sell resources and material to both sides until the victor was obvious. Then strongarm their way onto the winning team and make threats until they get a disproportionate share of the loot.

The only difference is that this time the Jews were helping to goad the USA into choosing the Allies as the British had promised to turn over Palestine to the zionists.

Team up with China instead of Japan.

Invest in automatic rifles immediately instead of fixating on bolt-action.

Invest in quantity over quality for tanks and such; similarly avoid "wonder weapons".

Have Edward's bitch assassinated so he keeps the throne and we get Britain-Germany bro-op.

To be fair. Was China even independent at the time?

And that is a substantially better scenario than what the actual one was.


China was broken up into a number of feuding "cliques" led by various warlords. The Nationalist Chinese or "Kuomintang" were the largest at the time, and the is who people refer to when talking about China during WW2.

Brah it is exactly what happened.

The USA is hilariously consistent.
Their WW2 behaviour was almost exactly the same as their WW1 behaviour.
Main differences were their attempt at genociding the Germans and then their panic over the Soviets which cut their looting and genocide short.

certainly, then he should've followed with a land invasion of Britain. with a completely occupied Europe the Axis would've surely held.

especially because the Asian commonwealths would be without authority, meaning the Japanese would've had free reign on the Pacific, and could've joined Hitler in attacking the USSR from the East, preventing America from re-industrializing the Soviets through the Bering Strait.

had this happen, god, the war may have lasted 30 years.

Tank development is halted at the Panther. Tiger is never engineered. The Wehrmacht is told to rely primarily on upgunned Pz IVs and Stugs.

All jet research scrapped in favor of manufacturing many more conventional aircraft. Also order the development of a larger bomber.

Alter military doctrine and tradition. Ace pilots and tankers have to rotate home to train new pilots.

Divert more resources to North Africa and conquer Egypt. Having cut off Britain from her food, force a surrender or use it as leverage to ouster Churchill and negotiate an alliance even. At the very least commandeer their home fleet.

Divert more resources to the mideast to gain a wider front with which to attack Russia.

Refrain from attacking Russia until the west is completely consolidated.

Prepare a trustworthy successor to my rule, so that my heart sclerosis doesn't make me rush.

The US got in on WW2 pretty early compared to WW1. More American soldiers died in WW2 than British soldiers.

Stalingrad didnt even happen by the time the US entered the war and the Germans were still active in North Africa with the Italians. The Third Reich was at its maximum territorial extent around this time. Paris was controlled by Germany and all Allied forces had been driven off of the European continent. And you say the US joined when the victor was apparent?

Yes. If the Germans had backed the Nationalists and provided equipment and training, they could have secured a Nationalist victory and then utterly destroyed the Soviets with the hammer of the Wehrmacht in the west driving the Soviets into the anvil of the KMT in the east (instead of Soviets being able to fall back and regroup, they'd end up falling back into nationalist Chinese forces and being destroyed).

Granted this would have worked just as well with Japanese forces if Japan had done their job, but Japan wasn't interested in doing their job. China might have, especially if it came with the promise of post-war German assistance in building up China technologically and China taking the asian parts of Russia; moreover, Japan didn't have strong anti-communist feelings during the war; the nationalist Chinese on the other hand really hated communism. They would likely have been happy to destroy it.

Germany lacked the means to stage a land invasion of Britain.

The Royal Navy meant that the German navy spent much of the war in port.
Trying to move large numbers of troops across the English channel was impossible.
The only way to make it possible was to destroy the RAF thus giving Germany the air dominance that would make challenging the Royal Navy simply absurdly difficult rather than impossible.

Hence the large bombing campaign that they knew wasn't going to do much overall.

It was all to draw out the RAFs intercept capability and get them into a fight.
Problem is the RAFs ability to absorb and replace losses vastly exceeded Germanys.
Hence why the Battle of Britain was won by Britain.

Once the Russians got off their collective arses the victor was obvious.
They could literally bury the German military under a sea of human flesh and the yanks knew it.
It wasn't a matter of if but of how long it would take and how many russians would die.

Though the jewish element no doubt contributed massively.
They owned the yanks and they really wanted Palestine.

Well I dont know if Hitler would just appoint a Fuhrer 2. I dont know if he could do that. I think it was every 4 years the 1933 Enabling Act was renewed by their version of the Senate. This was done from 1933 until 1945. A total of three times.


Thats a pretty good one. For some reason they didnt do this because "muh tank aces". Which is better? One guy who can take out 50 tanks or 10 guys who can take out 10 tanks?

There was a vice fuhrer.
Who was captured by the Brits after they duped him into thinking he was invited to secret peace negotiations.

In the event of Hitlers death or retirement, he'd take over. Supposedly.

The problem is that Stalin specifically depended upon Hitler doing other shit as a mean to take advantage of him and attack. To elaborate, I'd like to point out that the only way to take Britain was to invade France, as he did. Right, now you have Nazi troops maintaining France, and Nazi troops fighting for the UK. And even after a victory in the UK, there would still need to be a turnaround period where they could transform certain areas into production locations for more supplies and armaments, etc. If there'd been a full German invasion of the UK, Stalin would've had a huge advantage, being able to move into Germany while a large contingent of troops were maintaining control of France and fighting to take Britain. Thus my idea that Russia should've been the first country to be attacked, and with a tremendous force dedicated purely to it and nothing else. Since Russia didn't have too many allies on its own thanks to its ideology, it would've been a one-on-one fight that Hitler could've won. Then with the vast amount of land and resources between Germany and Russia, there could've been a long period of just improving the conditions of the Germans in the Third Reich. This would've built up happiness, productivity, and population to dedicate towards another offensive further down the line.

And I'll add this: Hitler should've have started the Holocaust so early. He should've taken communist land and waited, and if any western nation tried to pry, he could've gone, "I have eradicated the communist vermin for you to preserve the European way of life," with nobody able to counter him.

Ultimately Hitler was short-sighted and thought everything could've been done in his lifetime. In fairness, maybe it could've, but nonetheless, he was too quick to let the *entirety* of his ideology show and try to take effect.

Not start WW2. Invade and colonize Africa instead. Nobody would care if I exterminated blacks.

Heß would have made a good leader, especially after the war.


Africa was still owned by European powers, you retard. Invading it = war with them.

Well then dont make it a war of attrition against the USSR because you will lose.

The turning point; Stalingrad, was over an entire year after the US entered the war.

Seeing Hitler's speeches on how Capitalists and Communists tried to kill Germany, he should've taken himself more literally and start building defensive military positions from day 1, rather than months before D-Day.

Most wars ultimately come down to attrition.

The question is what the effective numbers are once you factor in force multipliers.
Sure your troops may be equivalent to a hundred of your opponents. But when he has a hundred and one for every one of yours your force multipliers become useless.

I dont think people who repeat this understand how much help the commies had.
It is like the horrific losses for commie at the post Stalingrad phases didnt exist at all.
Just Stalingrad.

I would've left the Jews alone, and just fixed the dysgenics problem, thereby saving the world itself.

Well the Axis vs the USSR alone would have resulted in an Axis victory most likely. Which is what I have been trying to get at. And to make this happen a big part is making sure the US stays out of the war.

Does anyone have that story that goes something like, a bunch of Russians and jews are POWs or smthg. There's an open pit they've been digging. The leader tells the jews to get in the pit and tells the Russians to start burying them in dirt. They look at eachother and really don't know that it's right, so the leader tells the jews to get out and Russians get in. He tells the jews to bury them, and they get right to work shoveling. He tells the jews to stop, and tells the Russians, "See? This is how a jew will treat all non-jews."

I'm fucking horrible at telling stories, sorry. Anyone have it?

capture all troops at dunkirk and blitzkrieg the eternal anglo immediately after

This idea needs to die. Zionism is not and has never been the main goal of the Jews.

I would have killed the Jews right on the spot by just shooting them in the streets, instead of just trying to peacefully deporting them and than being forced to imprison them under inhuman conditions thanks to the declaration of war by the Allied Forces.

Never, ever, ever sign the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, and don't let Japan sign a pact with them either. The reds began massing troops for an invasion in 1941, Hitler struck first which made him look like the backstabber rather than the opposite. Convince the Japs to attack the USSR together rather than draw thw US into the war.

Not put so much confidence in Italy to fight effectively. Germany really needed to shift south in the late summer/fall 1940 to capture Malta and knock Britain out of Egypt. If the air power and forces allocated to Sea Lion were diverted, in whole or in part, to the N. Africa campaign Britain would have cracked by Spring 1941 with the lost of most of its Imperial territories in Asia, and the Near East as well as open revolts in India and South Africa. The popular support for the UK to come to terms would be insurmountable. If the Churchill would not sure for terms, I am sure he would be strung up for ruining the UK. With the UK neutralized and North Africa conquered, the Greeks will stop being so neutral and the Yugoslavs will not coup Prince Paul. Now, with the possibility of a Caucus Front, as well as, the Eastern Front and the Artic Front, I think European Russia can be liberated by Winter 1941. At that point, Hitler has achieved all possible military goals and can refocus Germany and Europe as a whole on a social and political transformation.

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Goring should have never been in charge of the luftwaffe, his horrible mismanagement of the air force cost Germany a lot during the war.

Also,

Gas the fucking Jews. For real this time. Since you'd have been blamed for it anyway, might as well make it true.

He could have honestly saved a shit ton of problems from happening if the hoax were really true.

Get a second propaganda minister.

Too readily, he allowed the allies and USSR to paint him as a monster. He had such a great pre-war reputation, he could have easily fought for a good image on hostile soils.

That, and Goebbels strikes me as a bit too idealistic to do everything necessary.

The Japanese weren't Fascists either. But they believed in their people and wanted the best for them.

Nationalism or Internationalism, there is nothing else. Regardless of the people's views in the 40s, the government was globalist.

what this place majority german or dane at that time?

how far were they going to go with their imperialism? im not a fan of taking over other peoples lands. all japan needed to grow was sakhalin, and fuck it, manchuria if they want it, not that i know the history.

Before WW1, it was part German and part Danish.
After WW1, the Danish part was given to Denmark.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schleswig-Holstein_Question

That user is retarded, the Danes wouldn't want any Germans land and the Germans wouldn't give it up anyway.

production management was a major flaw, hitler was not a man who though of creative new weapons or production efficiency, I would have mirrored the style of factory line the Americans used, I wouldn't have pushed for so much experimentation with individual tanks, I would have invested in adopting weapons technology that men on the ground say works best, the grease gun, 1911 and the SVT being too notable examples.

I would have developed a more accurate LMG in 8 kurtz with a lower weight and fire rate and established the modern squad system, 3 men with sturmgewehr, one with a an svt clone and another with the new LMG firing the same ammo as my sturmgewehrs.

I would have invested in firing more compact explosive rounds for attacking targets in defilade akin to modern 40mm launchers and I would have used these launchers as a mechanism to launch larger anti tank rounds from the same launcher.

Additional propaganda to make enemy troops realize that they are defending a mutual enemy, I would probably try to get an american historian for that role and I would directly target america saying that they should do as I have done with the jews and throw out the blacks to liberia.

Tell tojo to let america keep hawaii and to be more human to the dog eaters. this is about war propaganda not wining in the pacific, I would have told nipon to consolidate not aggravate.

I would have also put a major focus on kill shots for the russian war machine and it's effectiveness, more resources into espionage and infiltration to find and destroy their tank production.

Instead of having japan wage a war for attrition in the pacific I would have had them sneak around to europe and help me as my navy and use them to force Churchill to capitulate, then I would have saved my forces in western europe to fight Stalin.

IF everything went off without a hitch america joins the war a little late maybe a month or two, they will be largely demoralized because they would sympathize with the cause in many regions of america, the delay of america's entry into the war would mean my japanese allies get to europe before america can take the outlying islands in the pacific, at this point the war in europe will be over in a short time and we will have forced britain's surrender under terms that they formally apologize to all of europe fro instigating the conflict between germany and poland and poisoning the well back at the end of ww1. I'll give france back but they will have an occupation force and no military for at least 50 years, 1 0r two jap ships would stay to help out and the rest go back to defend japan, at this point we begin producing and destributing propaganda in english about communism and the red menace and how it works america won't have a clear goal, likely they won't have a foot hold into europe and only a token support in a European resistance force while this happens I will blaze across russia with my balkan forces and a portion of my forces from north Africa and western Europe, I'll let the goon in italy take responsibility for his own mistakes.

I"ll talk to the nations russia has invaded and ask for their assistance in fighting back ask that america either help or stop fighting me and my alies and suggest they elect a president who will remove the negores to africa for national peace and would speak english in an overture to the american people, 2 messages one for the south and one for the north.

It would take 2-3 years to completely capture russiaand I would tell the japanese that to keep our empire force would not do.

I would share propaganda methods and we would make clear in russia that we aren't making them a part of a new empire but that we offer them freedom of choice give them a referendum in provinces we capture. they can be wholly absorbed into the reich, left to fend for themselves while having a brief 12 year occupation or to become a province of the reich while being treated as a colony, you get our military forces to protect you, you become citizens of the reich's federation in a reich staten, basically america, EU roman province type deal, of course warn them about fleeing chinese breeding them out and that the regions they live in are not defensible against a modern military and others may not be so nice.

Stop being a gigantic Austrian faggot and let my Prussian military geniuses handle the war with Russia.

Also once it was all over reinstate the Kaiser.

Not destroy white nationalism for the next 66 years.

Give the kikes a real shoah to complain about.

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He is right in absolutely everything he says.

Ultimately national socialism, fascism and the third position in general were necessary evils to turn back the tide of the degenerate Jacobin/liberal menace (and the Marxism it spawned in time)

But it is now how you build a nation. I think that Willy was right in everything he said, BUT, I think he miscounted that Hitler had plans for a postwar, that hopefully involved a return to the traditionalist and feudal organization of before the war, perhaps even before the revolutions of late 18th century. But one must see Willy was constrained by his age.

He was also right that Hitler eliminated political opponents he had no business eliminating.

tl;dr: Willy > Hitler, if nothing else because Willy's further to the right than Hitler.

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Game? Seriously.

The only one being fed anything is you.

I would actually kill the Jews

Attacked the troops at Dunkirk and settled with the British on very peaceful terms.

Assured France, Britain et al that European states would be given back sovereignty after the Soviet Union and Judaism were defeated.

Try to act between Japan and the US to establish peace. Maybe stop allying Japan or some shit. Do something to make sure the US doesn't enter the war.

Lay easy on the General Winter memes and go straight for Moscow instead of fucking about in Leningrad and Stalingrad, thus avoiding the loss of momentum, splitting up my forces and lengthening my supply lines.

The US was in the war since the mid to late 30s. Yes, before the war actually fucking started. Same with Britain.

They were going to enter it no matter what because America had a Red in the White House. Unless you manage to have FDR assassinated soon after getting elected, you're just ignorantly dreaming by saying something like "Try to act between Japan and the US to establish peace. Maybe stop allying Japan or some shit. Do something to make sure the US doesn't enter the war."

I wouldn't have started WW2 in 1939

I would've waited for Britain, France, Netherlands etc to have gone Fascist and THEN attempted to destroy the Soviet Union.

Also fix a lot of the military equipment, like sloping those fucking tanks and adding ERA.

Nuclear research. Secure your future with strength of arms. It's the only way.

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yes goy, you invaded them for nothing

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Yes, but before doing that, all big Jews are killed by firing squad.

that already happened you cuck
Britain*

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Germany had enough technology to place a man on the moon early into the war. They just didn't do it because it wasn't a reasonable decision

Everything except when it comes to strategy

Give Von Bock, Kesselring, and Guderian a voice to decide what's the best as they see it

Bam Moscow is Germany's by the beginning of October

and bam Rommel is forgotten and Kesselring is a legend for cutting off all British intel at Malta now they can't successfully reinforce anything in the medittrenean and now we can let Rommel fight his silly battles in the desert

Also hold off on tiger production for the panthers and panzer IV, that way no more gimicky battles

Oh yeah instead of bombing britain just did what Goring suggested and continue bombing the airfields

Hitler was a sucker for newstories tbh, that was his biggets flaw. WW2 was way too winnable and all his generals knew it

The big problem at stalingrad wasn't that failed to take initiative it was forcing a close quarter combat in a non strategic city, there was nothing to gain at stalingrad except a moral victory, which moral was already outstandingly high. Holding the caucuses and increasing the supply line would have been much more effective strategy

Letting the Brits escape at dunkirk made no difference their groundwar was pitiful and really made no difference alive or not, the big problem was those god damn radio towers and the ability to foresee the Luftwaffe before they attacked, which even then made little difference, not smashing their airfields and allowing air dominance of Britain was one of the biggetst blunder especially by 1944

Japan should have broke their pact with Russia and just smashed them on a far eastern front anyways and took all those islands

Yes but it wasn't axis Vs USSR.
It was axis vs the allies. Which included Britain and meant that Germany needed to garrison western europe to protect against invasion from Britain.
So they couldn't concentrate their forces on the USSR.
As such the USSR's numerical advantage negated the Germans superior force multipliers.

Not all jews are zionists brah.

I don't know if you're just stupid or plain old naive.

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What, and stand by and do nothing while the Kikes murder ethnic Germans in Poland?

gas yourself immediately kike and don't come back

I have a Russian holocaust survivor of Russian Holocaust gulags, a Ukrainian. Pretty reality pilled, he explained to me how the Germans fucked up. It was not shoring up an international force out of the captured Soviets and satellite soviet forces.

He explained there was a field marshal in the Wehrmacht whose name I've forgotten that sought to do this, but was killed and his ideas rejected.

Apparently millions of the Russian/satellite forces were furious for what Russian had done to them and would of been willing to fight for Germany.

Ukraine for example was forced to fight Germany, changed sides, fought Russia mid way through the war, stopped fighting Russia then started biting the German hand for overstaying its welcome. Or something along those lines.

Either way, the Germans were sitting on an immense fighting force, and did not utilize it. If I can find the name of the Field Marshal I will post it later.

Perhaps a true history buff may know of this rumor, I have not heard of this being suggested in WWII history books by a German field marshal, but if its true it really adds something to the conversation.

My source is a rare material though, someone who survived the hell Russia put Ukraine through, went to America and became an draftee for the Korean war, and came out knowing a lot about world history that will never be taught in schools.

This is how it begins. N-not all of us goyim!

It's a good plan in theory but see how it ended for the Roman with their auxiliaries.

Make a deal with both China and Japan.

Well it is true. Not all kikes are zionists.
But all kikes are kikes.

This is why you have multiple different groups of kikes pursuing their own agendas by manipulating different groups.

This is why they ran both sides of the cold war. You had two seperate groups of kikes each pursuing the same goal independently of each other.
Said goal being their continued survival.

I agree, everyone knows that German soldiers performed well, the German failing was in diplomacy.

Many Germans wanted more international cooperation, especially Ribbentrop.
www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/brussels_eu/roots/33_ribbentrop_european_confederation.html

Hitler was pretty opposed to the idea, he didn't think other nations had anything to offer and were incompetent. (Which is a somewhat justified view, the rest of the Axis was either incompetent or turned against Germany)

This. Basically be good Hitler, Diplo my way through Europe. Allow Russia to self destruct under its own weight. Allow Russia to be the aggressor. Strengthen economic ties with the sympathetic Americans. Work on building a world leading Navy to challenge that of Britain and to secure trade routes with the US. Invent Nuclear Weapons and use it to intimidate everyone into returning former colonies of Germany to their original owner as well as original land in Europe (such as French Lorraine and German Switzerland assuming a case is viable.).

Germanys role in the world would replace what Russias role is today. Hitler would die an accomplished politician and part time artist by the time most of us were born. Russia would have been mostly obliterated by both Germany and America. A cold war would occur between the two countries out of a reluctance to war with one another. America and Germany remain sympathetic with each other for over 100 years, knowing all too well that if either nation were to war it'd likely end the world.

The Nazis landed on the Moon first in the 50s.

I think some of Holla Forums often forgets to realize that it wasn't Hitler looking to start a war, but everyone else.

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The German high command repeatedly asked Japan to join in forces against the USSR. The nips had already an army ready at Manchukuo; they withdrew because they were an extremely shitty ally that ended up opening a new front / inviting the US to join the war instead. Maybe the Kuomintang had performed better, who knows, but one must remember that the Chinese nationals were fighting both a civil war and a war against Japan (the Japanese had already attacked China in 1937)- they didn't have that much to offer. It would had taken a huge diplomatic effort to bring those to nations together, can't see it happening in any scenario.

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Liberalism and Communism decided to team up? No, it's more like they were both ruled by the same group of people, very wealthy Jews.

I'd set myself up as a genuine hero to the jewish people and champion their cause for a jewish state in palestine.

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sage for e-celeb shit
hitler just stole our memes for his own benefit

Whatever. Enjoy your hugbox, Mary.

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Even the lugenpresse admits Roosevelt was informed about the attack beforehand. He baited Japan, and then did ABSOLUTELY nothing about it to ensure maximum carnage, casualties and shock.

telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/8932197/Pearl-Harbour-memo-shows-US-warned-of-Japanese-attack.html

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_East_Indies_campaign

Don't confuse auxilaries with fedorates. The former were people whose land was incorporated into the empire, the latter were immigrants to which land in the empire was given. Often times auxilaries provided roman legions with archery and light cavalry units.

He's talking about getting rid of the aristocrats and the last vestiges of the feual system. All that about "disregarding traditions" is bullshit when you consider that the "great Germans" he names were nothing of the sort. Papen, Schleicher, and Blomberg were all nobles (all should be prefaced with "von" and that should tell you something), and that was their only claim to greatness. None of them was particularly great, good, or gifted to my knowledge.

Plus Wilhelm was pretty much a retard anyway and destroyed Bismarck's vision. Maybe he got wiser in old age but from that article I doubt it.

Why the fuck would you want that?


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Absolutely this. The problem is arming them though. Germany doesn't have the capacity to arm even itself to full strength, let along millions of other Europeans.

EU is bound by democracy, nations can join and leave. The Reich is bound by military force, annexation treaties and the indoctrination of the youth of the affected country.

It is vastly different.

Is this nigger serious?

Don't fire up the gas chambers.

Build a colony for the Jews in Africa.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Withdrawal_from_the_European_Union

- Try not to mistreat the Jews so they can not use the holocaust against Whites later on
- Never start a land war in Asia (Russia)
- Ignore Britain, not worth the hassle
- Same with Africa

Really, Hitler should have stopped after he had Poland and France and the various irrelevant minors in his grasp. With such an industrial base alone, the Reich could easily have become the world's leading superpower as opposed to the Burgers.

This thread has taught me that a lot of people on Holla Forums actually has no idea what happened in ww2.

I would listen to my generals .

Few people forget that if he listed more to his generals , he could have won.

Also speed up the secret weapons programmes .

Well at least explain and enlighten then .

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Nothing. Literally everything happening today is the fault of cowardly traitor bastards in America who fought their own race and helped genocide our people, including faggots in my own clan.

It's absolutely disgraceful, since America could have really made the world a better place. Now, the whole world is enslaved because of America. They absolutely need to be ashamed and stop their WWII faggot circlejerk bullshit.

Hitler sort of tried to do this with the plan to expel Germany's jews to Palestine.
But the British went "lolnope no more jew terrorists"

Use graphite as a neutron absorber in my nuclear weapons program and purge the communists in a true Holocaust of nuclear fire. The Jews would be exterminated completely, and humanly, via bullets to the brain. No dumbassed fucking camps. Same with anyone caught being a communist.

There was absolutely no other path to victory due to the devastation of German industry during the Weimar Republic.

When Britain surrendered, one condition is that Churchill be publicly hung for starting a war of extermination against the German people.

I would also detonate a nuclear device on American soil if they failed to sue for peace within a month of the British surrender. Although FDR deserved to die for his crimes in WWII, and during the Depression against the American people, I would leave him to die in his gimp chair. I would grant the Americans their sphere of influence in the Americas, but that is it. If they interfered anywhere east of Greenland, or West of Hawaii, it would be war, and they would be wiped out, as they didn't have the rocket technology they stole from the Russians to produce ICBMs (they would have nukes a few years after Germany).

After the war, Germany would adopt a policy of laissez faire and trade with anyone, even former enemies. Build strong ties of trade so that we don't go to war ever again.

I would also force Japan to cease expansion into China beyond Manchuria and court Chinese nationalists to as allies and trade partners, and work together to purge any remaining Red Chinese elements (though with the eradication of Russia, they never would have had the support they needed to even get started).

End result, a large, powerful, hegemonic Germany (no-one will fuck with them in the future as they have demonstrated their extreme willingness to use nukes in war) at peace with an at least somewhat resentful America (or a fearful one if they got nuked), and a resurgent and friendly China. Japan is allowed the western Pacific, and might war with America in the future, but that wouldn't last long, and would likely end with them getting nuked again. If they do start another war, or refuse to end the other (and as a result we break the alliance), the result would be the same as our timeline, though China would take back Manchuria, Korea, and SE Asia. So either three or four major world powers, with Germany standing head and shoulders over the others thanks to ICBM technology.

Would have been pretty good, I think.

Meant Germans.

Assisting in creating a Jewish mother country was against the core Reich policy. Stop it with this meme that Hitler was a zionist, they were deporting the filth to the USSR, America and any other place that would accept them.

0/10, gas yourself.

no matter how true this is, people won't want to listen.

you do realize there is a reason that a nuke was only used once on a real city, rite?

Yes, but the intimidation effect on other countries is secondary. Communism needs to be completely exterminated, and wiping out Russia AND the Jews is the only way to accomplish that. Russia can't be conquered with conventional forces, so they have to be nuked into submission. 50-100 would be enough to take them back to the middle ages.

It is not so much communism itself so much as the bolshevik jews that should be destroyed , at least relevance to that era and how dangerous they were .

Only 1 person was killed
worldwar1.com/dbc/bonusm.htm

No, fuck you. ALL communists must be purged. Communism is the destroyer of civilizations, in ALL of its forms.

Yes, the Jews are instigators and are responsible for the invention of modern Communism and its early spread, and they will pay and pay dearly for that in my scenario (purged to extinction in all European lands and colonies). They might survive in America, but not that many went there prior to WWII, and hopefully they would keep their heads down (or even better, the Americans adopted our policy of cleansing of destructive ideologies).

If they still managed to weasel their way into the upper echelons of American society, and began agitating for war or a move to Communism, and weren't put down, then America would be purged with orbital weapons a few decades later. Germany would have nuclear and conventional weapons in orbit and a monopoly on space due to their early development of rockets, with any unapproved launches being shot down. Other countries could have satellites and do scientific or economic missions, but all payloads have to be inspected by Germany prior to launch. Only Germany is allowed to have weapons in space, for the safety of all.

50-100 nukes, over real cities, will create a nuclear winter, and completely deplete our ozone layer. I would say that gas bombing is a much more efficient and effective solution. Sure, a nuke or two, of small caliber, at most. But more than that will have adverse effects on everyone.

You can quibble the What-Ifs of a million little components in WW2 that could have changed a battle that could have changed a campaign that could have changed the war, yadda yadda. Ultimately Hitler's greatest failure was on the strategic, not tactical level.

His biggest mistake was opening a second front with the largest country in the world, while simultaneously fighting the British Empire. Just like Napoleon, he allowed them to rebuild and reorganize on their island, expand and empower his enemies on the continent, and become a huge ulcer until it was clear there was no victory on any front. Simply put, he made too many enemies too quickly.

There was only one way to bring Britain to the negotiating table, and it was not through an invasion of the British Isles (impossible to launch, let alone pull off), but in the Meditterranean.

Had the African front been given the attention it deserved, Britain would have lost her Empire. Without Egypt and the Suez Canal, she had no access to the vast resources of India, Australia, the Middle East, and the Pacific. She would be incapable of continuing the war, despite the wishes of Churchill and his cabinet. Having taken the Suez, Rommel would have been free to push across the Levant and secure the friendship and oilfields of the Arabs and Persians. This would have also resulted in the strategic encirclement of the USSR, their oilfields in Baku would have been within striking distance of an Axis attack, and would have probably given Stalin pause when it came to his hypothetical invasion of Europe. All this could have easily come to pass before Pearl Habour, but instead Hitler put this front to the wayside. After America entered the war, the Axis were quickly sweeped from Africa, then the Mediterranean, eventually Italy, and the rest is history.

EU is authoritarian. Member states are forced against their will with the threat of fines and more.

Even if there is legislation for this, any country that tries to leave will be bound by enormous fines and debt. The ESM (European Security Mechanism) is the instrument, above all laws, created to enslave the EU countries in debt. To think that this would not be enforced with a military force is a joke.

He invaded the east before consolidating the west, thereby opening a war on two fronts. No power, regardless of how strong, has ever won wars on two fronts.

Russia cannot be conquered by conventional military means.

Russian fall is hard to fight in because the fall rains turn the country into mud.
Russian winter is hard to fight in because of the snow and the cold.
Russian spring is hard to fight in because the snow melts and turns the country into mud.
Russian summer is the only season during which an invasion can be carried out.
Basically an invader has to blitz all of Russia in one season or he loses.

Hitler would have been better off subsuming Russia over time by creating Western Europe into a powerful economic and cultural bloc, or by developing weapons of mass destruction and fucking them up that way, or by fucking ignoring it because there's nothing worthwhile in Russia anyway.

media.8ch.net/pdfs/src/1427623988562-0.pdf

Not possible.

First, there were not a lot of bridgeheads on that part of the Volga since it's already a wide river made by the dams. And if there were they would be promptly destroyed by the Red Army.

Second, Stalingrad was in the middle of the steppe and close to the swamps of the Volga delta. Not a good place to spend the winter months.

Stalingrad would have to be taken fast and by all means of force. Which was the main objective of the Germans since they were well aware how important that city is. And the Soviet managed to defeat them in that crucial point since they had more cannon fodder to dump as the Germans had from mainland Germany, thousand of kilometers away.

If Stalingrad fell so would the Caucasian oil fields. And no oil is no tanks. You wanna go full infantry against a heavily mechanized army of the Germans? Nope. The existence of SU was depended on that city.
Stalingrad was THE fight that defined the Second world war. If Germans won Stalingrad they would have the war.

where can I upvote

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She was married to a man of Jewish origin, a man whose fathers surname used to be Solomon. Her uncle was a banker and a railroad executive, named Solomon.
Just some interesting coincidences…

I have it somewhere in my folders. I'll try to find it.
They weren't Russians though, they were… Polish, I think?

Develop that nuke faster.

Damn it, I can't find it. But user, I know what you're talking about.

Over 70 fucking years ago
Fuck off with fantasy

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Italy went full retard here but based on what I've read, the Reich needed to intervene because it gave the allies now had reason to take control of that region since Greece was neutral. And that would have been devastating logistically for Hitler and friends.

The truth is the War started before 1933 once it became clear that Germany was quickly turning into bad goyim.

Not go after soviets, kept pounding in RAF and go after their radar. Not declare war on US when japan attacks and inform japan that they won't be backed if they bring in the US. Also see if I could bargain and buy US military equipment since jews want shekels.

1.Photoshop kids reading mein kampf
2. See cps and other child theft agencies go cradle robbing
3. Enjoy lulz

That is a fantasy dreamed up by anti-nuclear activists. Volcanoes are more powerful and eject more material higher than fission nukes ever could, and the largest in recorded history only dropped temps by a few degrees.

Mount St. Helens was 24 megatons, equivalent to 1600 fission bombs. We didn't all die afterwards.

If nuclear winter is to happen, it will be caused by fusion bombs far larger than any ever detonated (which the Russians now have–100MT bombs on hypersonic suborbital missiles).

Kill Hitler and shill for Ludendorf. There's nothing a NatSoc Germany could do to avoid WWII short of selling out, so it may as well have a leader who's competent with warfare.

People keep saying that Hitler was wrong to invade Russia, but it was the greatest strategic move in history, because they launched the invasion two weeks (!!!) before the Russians were ready to invade Europe.

The error was in driving too far into Russia. They should have disrupted the invasion, let the Russians go scorched earth during their retreat, and gone back to Europe, leaving it much more difficult for Russia to launch a second invasion. That would have required foreknowledge that the Russians were burning all the supplies during their retreat, though.

Indeed, the Germans might have gone further and contaminated water supplies, poisoned farmland (extract nicotine from tobacco and spread it on the ground–doesn't take much), burned/demolished any remaining infrastructure, and mined the dog shit out of the place before they retreated.

from your own article;
No state has ever withdrawn from the EU

whatever

Start development of the superweapons made during the war like the STG, FG42, and Horten 229.

p simple tbh

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I almost cut myself on that edge.

Attack the Britcucks at Dunkirk.
Not attack Stalingrad.
Not burn down Warsaw.

Also put the concentration camps in public so people can't like about the Holocaust.

That's all they needed to do and WW2 would have never happened, or if it did they would've won.

No one wants to live under German rule, just look what they did to EU.

Nazis' were product of insecurity, they envied other European powers for their ancient history, colonies around the world and wealth. That's something Germany din't have.


—- Adolf Hitler

Keep the national part, dump the socialist part. Be less authoritarian when it comes to the economy.

What was so edgy about that? Killing innocent people who had nothing to do with your jewish conspiracies is a little more edgier in my eyes.

Wouldn't trust some random dream as a military strategy for one.

Alex Jones pls go

I would develop atom bombs first and nuke the hell out of allies. White house? Gone. Buckingham palace? Gone. Stalin's ass? No remains left.

One of Hitler's flaws was mercy, he sent too many pleas for peace instead of bombs. We would be in better times if he were more ruthless.

This is why american should be nuked and finished with biological weapons. They put capitalist intrest above their own people. Liberal scum. But what can you expect from mongrel nation.

Yes, because Germanic peoples never did anything notable. Widukind never existed. The Lombards never existed. Rome never fell. Charlemagne never existed. Otto the Who?

Germanic people din't record their own history, only reason you know "Germanics"exist today is because of Hellenic, Roman and later Christian records.

Be glad that Romans brought civilization to Northern Europe and Christians brought organized literature or else you would still be living in mud huts.

I didn't say it was wrong to invade Russia, just that it was wrong to invade while still fighting the full might of the British Empire and her allies. Pursuing a strategic encirclement would have ensured a much more prosperous and secure pool of resources for the Axis to work with.

THIS!


It would have never worked in Europe. Germany wanted to destroy the very concepts of individual states, ethnic identities and nationalities of Europe. They wanted this 'New Europe' being run by Germans alone.

Himmler wanted to "Germanize" non-Germans in Europe, these "Germanized" people would never be accepted into Germany society but they would simply exist to serve Germans.

No self-respecting European would simply let Germans erase his ethnic and national identity only to be second class citizen under German rule.

They did record it to a limited extent, but yes, Roman records are the reason we know about them.
But they never lived in mud huts.

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Help me out guys. I'm Nationalist to to the bone, but I just can't get over the "socialist" part. Can someone explain it to me in a way that doesn't make me think of communism?

This is a D&C post. Report + hide.

That literal question gets asked very frequently.

No it is not. I have not seen an answer, just your same reply.

What does D&C mean?

kek. never been more glad that our 9th grade history teacher was a lazy fuck who just showed us yt vidss in lieu of actual teaching. one day he chose an actual stormfront video and i was the only one who watched it while the others snuck their phones under their textbooks.

Uh, yes they did, what else did they live in? Germanic architecture does not exist and oldest building in Northern Europe is Porta Nigra in Germany, it was built around 1st century A.D by Romans.

divide and conquer - to cause infighting with the magic words:

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Could have succeeded if he didn't reach so far.

It was foolish to try to advance on multiple fronts, especially so when you're surrounded by potential enemies.

He defeated his own nationalist ideal by gambling his people and not being more conservative.

This.

Though I'm beginning to think it was because he kept "honorary Aryans" and amongst them were kikes in his top advisor spots. It feels like it was intentional and internal subterfuge.

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Focus on raping the soviets first.

it -is- communism.
hitler nationalised many factories.
if you dont wanna see it as such, think about this way then:

socialism means society is greater than the individual. society is the nation itself.
therefore, every individual works as best he can to further the nation rather than his own interests.

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If Hitler didn't invade Russia, Russia would have attacked. Soviet troops were already massing on the border for an invasion.

He failed this rule of power, crush your enemy totally, least they come back for revenge.

And it would have been defended against.

"Never attack Russia." is because of defender's advantage and the treacherous terrain that Russian forces were molded by.

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