The good old days?

Do you think the USA was better in the past, or worse?

Include your gender and race with your reply, please.

US went to shit in 1865

t. white male

Let's make America more multicultural than ever.

t. Shillary Clinton

There's dramatically greater potential for fun and pleasure now, but our structural integrity is rapidly disintegrating. There's more mental illness today than any other point in earth's history and most people are mostly dry, anhedonic, or depressed because they've been programmed into negative behaviors and have not capitalized on the massive pleasure potential possible in today's society. Everything is falling apart and self-destructing and mankind is doomed. This is truly the era to selfishly extract as much pleasure as possible and let the world burn in the future

t. pic related

The US has only changed the ways in which it's super shitty - Before, we had disease, abuse, control, more sociopaths in our social circles, limited availability, etc. But now, we have fewer more powerful sociopaths, who commit more abuse and have more control - less disease, but more risk. More dangerous ghettos, more scams, etc. but they are more restricted. A long time ago, "the us" could perhaps be used as a blanket term for these purposes, but for modern day America the best answer I can give you is that some parts are much shittier, and some parts much better. It is harder to find a generally good, reliable life, a faithful wife, and exist without strife, but if you are careful, picky, and reasonable, you can find all that and much better than was ever possible in the past.

I am a white male Albertanon.

Some people were saying the same thing in the late 60's.

We're at the tail-end of Decadence and Decline, the penultimate stage in the life cycle of all great civilizations. Next up: collapse.

It's not gonna be quick, but it is a sure thing

Never should have legaized niggers

M Ayrian/Caucason

World wide, no fun allowed anymore. Everyone's super serious, sensitive and litigious. Humor is one the most important things in life, so worse.

The contradictions inherent in class society make it prone to cultural crisis and periods of decline. People have been saying the same thing since the dawn of civilization.

It'll be interesting to see what effects technology has on it. One hand you have the illusion of closeness between classes, on the other you have opportunity to transcend classes granted by it.

it was better before we had to picket with those signs, back when the blacks were working the fields & listened to their masters.

but it would have been better if we never had nogs to begin with.

i hate the founding fathers for accepting chattel slavery as being appropriate.

Interesting you bring up technology because that leads me into:

Yes, every time someone in a period of time sees cultural changes of values, behavior, entertainment, and technology, some hysterical fuck preaches that the end is nigh and there's only a couple decades left until doomsday. That's not what I'm saying. Technological development is what's ultimately causing contemporary human beings' diminishing structural integrity and fuckery. It's developing at a faster and faster rate. Its speed is increasing by degree of exponent, and it's ultimately being handled like it's always been handled, carelessly and lacking in foresight. Throughout history there's been periods of decadence and decline, and then the humans got back in line and returned to homeostasis. It's going to be technology that makes it so that can't happen anymore, and if the speed of technological development is increasing by exponents, you can do the math. Once again, it's a trajectory towards destruction that isn't necessarily going to happen soon or even within this century

Could you expound upon the "how" when it comes to technological decline? Agree with your premise, but heard a few different theories (Ted K, basic bitch cyberpunk) and still trying to figure out what makes the most sense.

Every modern regime has tried to push the narrative of closeness between classes. The best technology can do in that regard is keep people distracted and complacent.

I don't think we're going to see technology changing the entire fabric of our economic reality on its own. Though I do think automation will escalate the tensions between classes and create the conditions for a series of political movements that ultimately culminate in transcending it.


You're looking at it the wrong way. Human society is constantly changing. There's no such thing as going back to homeostasis after crisis, only the formation of a new status quo altered by crisis.

The status quo (thesis) will be destabilized by its own inherent contradictions (antithesis) which lead to crisis, decline, and eventually the creation of a new status quo (synthesis), in which the negative elements from both are stripped away and a slightly more perfect system is born, or at least one that is more suited to the material conditions in which it exists. The new status quo retains elements of the old status quo, but is fundamentally changed by conflict, creating something wholly new.

The French revolution, for example, was a conflict between the royalists upholding absolute monarchy (thesis) and the Jacobins upholding revolutionary republicanism (antithesis). The Jacobins won, but their victory sowed the seeds for Napoleon's takeover, creating a unique system Europe hadn't seen before: a hierarchical monarchy like the past, but bound by a constitution charged with enlightenment ideals, and devoid of old feudal structures (synthesis).

Technology can't be separated from human society, and is bound by the same rules. The conflict between the growth of technological advancement and the human need for healthy lifestyles will eventually sublate into a society in which technological progress is still a priority, but does so in order to give people easier, happier, and healthier lives.

Yeah instead of Holla Forums bitching about blacks out producing whites you'd have Holla Forums bitching about irish out producing whites.

of course brudder,
the 80s were the last decade of western greatness. After the wall came down and globalism started, it all went to shit very fast. 90s were still easy because globalization only started but in the 2000s the effects already manifested themselves. Back in the day you competed with maybe 600 million other whites for jobs because the commies sealed themselves off and niggers were busy beeing niggers in africa. Sandniggers were busy with Israel and everyone wanted our high tech best from the west products so we all had jobs and shitloads of money because only we could produce it.

Then after the wall came down, the job market has increased 5fold overnight. You are now competing with all of those former commies and the shitskins for anything. Your ((managers)) will always make sure to export your job to chinkland and fill the jobs left at home with import pajeets. You are a fucking neet - sometimes even after your college degree - and your parents think you are a lazy fuck.

In reality their generation just exported all the normal and decently paid jobs that the middle class lived from. Now you are literally either a doctor/lawyer/engineer or a burgerflipper/shopclerk. All the jobs between (manufacturing) have been shipped to chinkland or bumfuckistan.

Just for a comparison. A new BMW costed about $20k in the early 90s in yurop and you would earn maybe $2500 with a normal job. Now a new BMW will cost you $50k and your average job will pay you maybe $3200.
Prices of everything skyrocketed while wages only went up for maybe 30%. But hey, the bureau of statistics tells me inflation is low. You get 4x more SAMSUNG for your dollar this year compared to 2 years earlier. They believe I need a new TV every month

My father told me that capitalism will destroy itself because of greed and I never believed him. However, seeing how things have changed it might turn out true at the end.

Still spice, I'm a white male. I always tell 'em to just… let the moon sink into their eyes, only to speak after consuming enough moonshine to pacify an elephant. Ya' feel?

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i feel

It regains homeostasis by adaptation. If human society did not regain homeostasis we'd be pretty fucked by definition


We agree on this too. It usually happens this way


Ideally. But certainly not as dictated by the trajectory of circumstances in reality

It's now better than ever.
Has never been that good.

Inflation in terms of the money supply increasing is high. It's mostly trade with China, and increased capitalisation, that hides that. If the economy was closed off you would see prices that were a lot higher.
(and average wages would be lower)

hey user, I know homework is hard but they give you surveys so you can ask around your town, do your homework right and good luck in school

White male here. The world has been consistently and more or less equally shit for different reasons since the dawn of time and it will be until we finally destroy ourselves or a sufficiently sized meteor hits us.

white male here, do your own homework billy

white male here
shittier back then
no internet porn.

I want to experience 1920 America

t. Asian Male

More, please?

every fucking thread I post porn in, you ask for more.

whoops

…I'm sorry, you know me? What?

i-i just like /ss/ man, this is something I have a lot of to share myself too if you want

I think it's the flag, CanCuck ;^)

Well, yeah, that's fine. I'm just worried that all the times I've posted "more" have suddenly turned out to maybe be me bothering one, single guy, and I feel like a prick for that.

I am on my shitty laptop, so I can't dump my /ss/
sorry, flagfag

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All good

This is an /ss/ thread now, though. Dump what'cha got on hand?

no, I mean this laptop makes it hard to post files

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No internet porn back then and women were ugly, also no vidya, so I'dsay overall worse

t.an Italian male.

MOAR

America peaked in the late 1950s. The 60's was when the hippies took over, their minds filled with jewish communist shit, and we have been suffering ever since.

it was all pretty cool back in the 80s, niggers could be respectable members of society, less arabs, no sjws as far as I know

pick one

True communism will never work. Besides all that shit on the right of your image is propaganda to begin with

There's no difference between "Stalinism" and Marxism-Leninism, it's just a buzzword for whatever revisionists don't like. You should consider reading a book sometime, Holla Forums.


Yes, propaganda used to combat bourgeois degeneracy. What's your point?

There's nothing wrong with Soviet Nationalism though. I'm just saying I don't believe communism is truly what made the USSR good. I believe it was really Nationalism and Leftists just call it communism because they're grasping at straws

Also Holla Forums would say themselves the USSR was not true communism because the government still held power over the economy and not the working class

What does this mean? The Soviet Union was multi-ethnic, which each nation existing as a semi-autonomous republic within the Union. Of course there was an over-arching "Soviet" identity and strong patriotism, but it wasn't nationalist in the bourgeois sense of the word.

Yes and no. What sets Stalin's theory apart from other Communists' is his insistence on building "socialism in one country" and using that as a base to support Communist movements abroad instead of sitting around doing fuck all until the global revolution spontaneously happens, like the LeftComs and Trots supposedly believe. So I guess I see what you mean by calling it nationalist in the way that it focused on the nation. But that doesn't mean its not Communist or incompatible with proletarian internationalism. It's a stepping-stone to achieve these things.

No one claims that the USSR had achieved a communist society of course. But on Holla Forums disagreement lies in whether or not the USSR was actually socialist. It boils down to whether you think bureaucrats are a unique entity that can constitute their own societal caste, or are just employees of the state that uphold the power of the ruling class.

The Soviet Union was civic-Nationalist. Just like America during much of the 20th and 21st centuries

Stop posting that propaganda, comrade.

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS JUDIASM

No, not just like America. It wasn't nationalism that was fed to people as a way for them to believe in class collaboration or get them to die in imperialist wars.

But even so I still don't see how that's somehow not Communist.


No

Lincoln should have let the south secede.