The people that say a "game aged poorly" have absolutely no idea what are they talking about outside of "old...

the people that say a "game aged poorly" have absolutely no idea what are they talking about outside of "old graphics=unplayable"

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no because dead rising looks like shit but still plays cleaner than an anime girls asshole

>>612671850Wrong. Take Shadow of the Colossus for example. The controls are garbage.

Game mechanics evolve over time. Something may not be an issue at the time of a game's release, but improve later. Like how you can't move back to the left of the stage in Super Mario Bros. You have to think of the context of when the game was designed and released.

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99% of the time "aging badly" refers to the general comfort of making use of something. Driving an old car that doesn't have power steering was the normal thing to do half a century ago, but people who are used to the current standard will tell you that the car is not "driveable".Many games have suffered something similar, because of bad controls, anti-intuitive UI, total lack of quality of life, abysmal frame rate, unbelievable input lag, etc., games that people once had the patience to play because there is nothing better available become difficult for those who are used to modern standards.

>>612672098>Game mechanics evolve over time.You mean game mechanics got simpler over time and your peanut brain can not handle anything that doesnt play itself

>>612672235No, I mean you are a literal retard.

>>612672287Looks like I struck a little too close to home :)

Nah, as things like control schemes, level design, and art styles improve over time, older games that did those things badly age poorly in comparison. There are old games that do those things well and things that don't, and now that we have better stuff to compare them to, we can accurately say that certain things 'aged poorly'

so why did op make this thread if he was just going to insult anyone who disagreed with him

>>612672483So he could insult anyone he disagrees with.

>>612672483lol no he blatantly made it to post lana's mom and also the 'old game = bad' is a metaphor for 'old woman = bad' because most people prefer lana over her mother

>>612672483those aren't my posts

>>612671850Mechanics can also age poorly, and are usually the biggest contributor to that feeling.

>>612671850I didn't read a word in your post OP but I want to fuck Lana's mom. Not Lana, just her mom

>>612671850Early 3D cameras that swing at the speed of molasses in gameplay designed at 25fps so they had time to dump half the skybox textures is pretty bad by today's standards.

>>612672086FINALLY

>>612672483for lana mom posting, the outrage is just a facade for the jannies

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>>612671850it usually mean janky ass gameplay you fucking dumbass

Goldeneye 007 is still a great game and I didn't even play it back then so I don't have nostalgia over it.

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>>612672483first day

>>612671850>>612672137>>612673186>>612673296Stop posting my wife!

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>>612672920>>612673186based milf fuckers

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>>612671850Old graphics are fine, but, for example, Fire Emblem Gaiden has lots of generally disliked aspects (slow, unskippable attack animations on common enemies, overly simplistic maps for the most part, low class variety, equipment is either ridiculously powerful or borderline useless with very little middleground) that both the previous game and following game in the same series, as well as most later games in the same genre, don't have. Fire Emblem Gaiden aged poorly.

>>612672792>because most people prefer lana over her motherbut she's a child?

>>612672137>>612673368THE EYES ARE WRONG

>>612673526She's a sexy child.

>>612672137Lana's mom does NOT have corneas she DOESNOT

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>>612671850It's not just graphics Things like controls, physics, draw distance, and framerates have all objectively improved with new technologyIf an older game doesn't meet current standards for these things, then by definition it is dated

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>>612671850I tried playing War of the Monsters and the controls were fucking impossible. Maybe it was easier in the past.

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>>612673905>>612674101>>612672137>>612674240do you want to fucking die?because this is how your life is going to endthe police will break down your door to find you dead and bloody at your computer, this thread being the only evidence as to how it happened

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>>612674240Rude!

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>>612674761Garbage edit

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>>612671850That's not true.There are plenty of games which are regarded as classic in their time, and still beloved by those who played them back in the ay, but just aren't as good for new players because the standard for some mechanics or features has grown in the decades since release.For instance the UI and controls of the first two Fallout Games are fucking abysmal by modern standards. They are also two hard, bite me. I'm playing a game to have fun, not pass some form of exam.Pharaoh, the Impressions city builder game also has some mechanics which just don't make sense anymore. They were relics of their era, like recruiters for jobs had to walk around the roads until they found an unemployed person. And there was no AI, they just walked in straight lines down roads.Like that would be unacceptable today for anything other than a deliberate throwback to those older games.

>>612675031>For instance the UI and controls of the first two Fallout Games are fucking abysmal by modern standards.They were abysmal by the standards it was released. Just look at that inventory system. Other contemporary games had proper inventory.

>>612671850Age is relative, someone might find a game they played back in the day is no longer fun, but someone who plays it for the very first time might find it fun.

>>612671850Lana's mom looks like such a nice lady, would have tea and cookies with.

>embedded porn imagesshit thread

>>612675151true.Thinking about it, I haven't played that many 90s rpgs or city builders, so I can't honestly say what 'aged badly' or just was a flaw to begin with.And the difficulty stuff is more just emblematic of a change in thought around how to make a game worth-while, contemporary thought is to make a game long or just really good. While before, since games were comparatively so much more expensive with inflation and were also shorter, the thought process was to make them hard so that they had longer average runtimes.Which isn't bad, people do like games that are very difficult. I'm not one of them really. I prefer games to not be that difficult so I can just easily have fun without thinking too much about it.

>>612672483This post basically sums up 95% of on-topic threads on Holla Forums.

>>612671850yea it's a nonsensical critique. Idiotic Fallout 1 + 2 in this thread critique for example. But people just say things to sound knowledgeable, it is like man without tongue rating wine. Such is life

>>612675398install stupid scripts, win stupid prizes

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>>612674959Futafags don't deserve rights

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>>612675617What's the prize then?

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>>612675738being a huge faggot

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finally a good thread

>>612673296Yeah too bad that user from a decade ago was responsible for the stupid "game aged poorly" bullshit. And it all started because he got filtered by Goldeneye and was too retarded to figure out how to set his controls to somewhat mirror a modern layout.

>>612671850Ah yes, the original resident evil, such a wonderful game to move around in. Such tight controls. Or pretty much any game that had you using tank controls for anything other than a tank. The only thing that allows it to be tolerable for anyone is nostalgia

>>612675836Cry about it

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>>612676135this fucking armpit needs to be anally impregnated in the ass

>>612671850Just say you want to fuck Lana's mom OP no need to add filler questions

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>>612676251Indeed

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>>612671850>Old save systems age a game, from passwords to memorycard shit>Fixed camera/shit camera in early 3d games was usually just a problem of the time and more tolerable then>Games with online components will becomes shadows of their former selves overtimeA lot of games age "poorly" in some ways, they are just 99% of the time related to tech issues though and 1% of the time to gameplay mechanics

>>612676009 dunno, i dont have nostalgia for RE but tank controls making it awkward to move makes it more intense to play when you're low on health or being chased.

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>>612675931it genuinely amazes me that people don't know about the other controller setups the game offers, but that's modern gaming brainrot for you

>>612678261>tfw setting up 2 N64 controllers for that modern feel.Rare really was ahead of it's time.

lana's mom is pure sex holy shit, i hope they give her a name

>see Lanas mom>boner>see Lana herself with huge boobs just like her mom>confused bonerIs me liking big!Lana make me out to be a pedo?

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>>612679512>HURR DURR WHY DO CUTE GIRLS WITH BIG BOUNCY JUICY BOOBIES MAKE ME ERECTIDK NIGGAMAYBE BECAUSE YOU ARE A STRAIGHT MALE

>>612674240>>612674101>>612673905SOVL

I join.....the wild spirits.....

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you wouldn't dare

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>>612671850>momposter is rightnaturally

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im tired of people saying the nintendo 64 is bad because its games "aged badly", I'm still going back to that console and playing some of its classics.

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>>612682907Only good games on N64 were made by RARE and Nintendo

>>612683561There's Konami, some from Acclaim and Midway too.

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I love Lana's Mama but it's hard to post her when 90% of her fanart is too lewd for Holla Forums

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Would Lana's mom be interested in my pokemon collection?

>>612689230as long as theyre cute

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>>612671850Games do not age. A game that is bad now was always bad. People do not think or pay attention so sometimes the passage of time is required to dispel their ignorance.

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>>612690374Left: Gen 1Right: Gen 9

>>612673296But goldeneye is objectively not good and only relevant insofar as being the first popular console fps.

>>612690764>goldeneye is objectively not good well yeah, it's objectively fantastic

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>>612671850It has nothing to do with graphics.Civilisation 1 aged well.Civilisation 4 did not.

>>612691587>liking the n64 version of halohow much of a low IQ spic are you

>>612690374>Games do not age.No, but people's standards change, and what was acceptable in the past is not tolerable to people nowadays. It's also impossible to take the games as they are because you know how much better it could be if they were allowed to make it with modern standards.XCOM is absolutely terrible as a game because of it's extremely terrible menuing system and even if you get past that it's very slow and more unfair than the modern variants just to punish the player and force more playtime.People nowadays can't stand classic RE and SH because forced camera angles paired with tank controls is an unholy, slow, and unfun combo.Daggerfall is completely esoteric in how you're supposed to play it and you have to shift through multiple modes and extremely awful procgen just to do anything.The entire Ultima series and many Sierra point and click adventures would be considered unplayable nowadays because of how random all the solutions are, how it just insta-kills you at random when you enter random rooms, and where everything is placed.The original Fallout games are all over the place in terms of mechanics and designs, and 1 actively punishes the player for daring to explore even if they haven't found a solution for the water chip. 2's got the "prime TNT then drop on the ground" mechanic that no game nowadays does from a menu system like it does, and it's annoying at that.Goldeneye and Perfect Dark are both games that would be considered terrible by today's standards because of their hitscan enemies, horrible controls, bland levels, short levels, and more with massive quality variations even between two levels.These are all games that were great if not fantastic for the time. You want a simple example, then there is no reason anyone should ever play an Atari 2600 game in the modern day unless it's for nostalgia purposes because 99.9% of them would be considered unplayable minigames in full games nowadays. No one would consider these proper games.

I want Lana's mom to spoil me and make me fat

>>612691859>No, but people's standards changeNo, the audience changes. For example, XCOM's menu system is extremely good and has many keyboard shortcuts to make actions take the absolute minimal amount of time, but they take longer than 5 minutes to learn which is how long it takes for the average normalfag to get frustrated and drop a game. Most of these games are still fantastic. (except Daggerfall, Goldeneye, and Perfect Dark, which are and always were garbage)

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>>612671850Undertale aged like shit.Goldeneye aged like shit.(You) aged like shit.

>>612671850No? For example, Xenoblade Andromeda aged like 10 years instantly the very moment BotW came out a mere 2 years later. This, it aged poorly.

>>612671850Perhaps generalizing, sure, but the complaint of 'aged poorly' is entirely valid for the same reason as any art/media. Look at something easy like Citizen Kane; the reason it's famous/noteworthy is because it's one of if not the first popular cinema that used a consistent throughline with an unreliable narrator and multiple main characters. It established a way of delivering a narrative structure in movies that nobody had really done before. Go watch it now, and it's a fucking snorefest full of cliches because all the things it did back then, other people have refined and done much, much better now. That's the exact same deal for games. Something like Diablo 1 was incredibly interesting and new for the time, the idea of delving down into a dungeon in an isometric style we hadn't seen before, getting progressively better loot and gear like some kinda tabletop game while trying to fight off hordes of monsters. It was an incredibly important game, but it 'aged poorly' because there are dozens of better games with that formula that took what Diablo did and made it more interesting, more nuanced, more enjoyable now. Just because something aged poorly doesn't make it a bad game or poor product, it's not a reflection on the quality of the thing itself. Almost nothing is meant to last forever, and very few games can claim to be just as enjoyable now as when they released.

>>612692578>but they take longer than 5 minutes to learnThe fact you need to learn keyboard shortcuts for basic mechanics is the entire issue here. I don't have to do that for modern day XCOM and when I do have to learn keyboard shortcuts it's for simulation games that make it crystal clear what the shortcuts are which XCOM does a very piss poor job at conveying.XCOM's menus are shit due to how they're not user friendly at all, its combat is shit because of how it's very difficult to tell what you're actually doing, its difficulty is unbelievably terrible even for the first level, it's hard to make out what is going on with some attacks, it's hard to make out what's going on when you're in a building, it's hard to tell if a rocket launcher shot will work or not without blowing you up, it has the same problem Fallout 2 does when it comes to prepping explosives and it's even jankier than in 2, and so on.

>>612692835>user friendlyNo, they aren't normalfag friendly. It's not made for you. This is what you don't understand.

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>>612691859>crying about xcom on Holla Forumsjesus christ this place has changed for the worst

>>612691821>n64 haloahahathis guy

>>612692835Casual faggot kys

>>612693041>having shitty controls is ok because muh normalfagswhy are weeaboos so retarded?

I wish I could imagepost ;__;

If your favorite game does not filter people in the first 5 minutes then it is probably not very good.

>>612673816She also doesn't have breasts above a B cup and yet look at what you're posting.

Arsenal extended power (2000s rts) aged horribly because player can spam factories and units while ai doesn't and uses his space less efectively

she better get in pokemon masters

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>>612691794No, civ 4 was never good and anyone paying attention at the time knew that.Anyone who says "game aged badly" is just making up for their inability to see through hype and shine

>>612692824You are such a pleb it's unbelievable. Go fap to more Overwatch porn, it's more in your lane

Is it me, or is Gelbooru kinda slow lately?

>>612673296where's the father?

Pokemon-related, anybody know what song this is? It's been stuck in my head for two days.vocaroo.com/1jNGS2asttT5

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>>612672086and they always have been. It has not aged poorly, it always was poor.

>>612671850Having to replay the entire game again if you die is retarded. Checkpoints and saving is a good thing. Replaying the first level over and over so you can slowly trial and error the hard parts is a fucking gay waste of time. Mechanics designed simply to waste your time are fucking stupid.Which is weird that we then went on to introduce season passes which require you to waste your time to unlock things. The game industry is going backwards.Also unskippable cutscenes are fucking gay.

>>612672235>Not being able to scroll the screen left makes the game more complicated.

>>612698781Rustboro theme song, Pokemon Ruby

>>612702426You're a king.

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>>612671850No, generally aged poorly means "control scheme I don't like".