Wilderness, Culture and Civilization

Reminder that ecologism and ecoconservation was coopted by the left, and that they use it to slave and screw over people.

WE MUST RECLAIM WHAT BELONGED TO US

"eugenics" is really a newfangled word for "natural living".

Reminder that old hunter-gatherer bones from the ice ages show us that those ancient muffuggas (those who survived and reproduced) were by and large healthy, tall (male average near 6 feet in many places), had good bone density, lived long lives, etc.

Appropriate the power of nature to crush the degenerate blob that is the leftist urbanite!

Yes, to Brits. If they survive for 5 years.

Eugenics is another word for breeding decisions and not tightly connected to the topic of the thread.

Treating your environment good is not a scam.

For the the most part I agree with you.

Nigga they were lucky to see 30

no I am not interessted in having sex with animals because you are a demon possessed jew, go to hell

That's not even funny.

No it's for Russians.

doesn't seem to work

I mean I am interested in it.
Afraid I haven't contributed much however, but mother nature definitively needs protecting.

Like I plan on becoming as close to self-sufficient as possible and hopefully live in/near some isolated woodland.

That's cool.
I'm mostly interested into urban forrestation (+tunneling and layering wildlife, integrating it into the city) and terraforming on earth (including systems that give fruit).

Oh yeah, think I saw some very neat wildlife bridges on Holla Forums recently where they just extended the woods above the road.
I'm lucky because at least presently the city I live in works hard to preserve a sense of nature.

You have any examples of what you mean by terraforming?

Caring about nature is exclusive to whites.

Protecting lesser lifeforms should be a top priority.

Yes, I'm actually a neo-luddite too but Holla Forums is filled with degenerates who think conservatism is somehow compatible with labor saving devices

Luddite savages will always lose to technologically superior civilization.

That's elegant.
I think of more complex and also sheltered systems. On various layers and levels, interwining it to such an extent you walk through a fishtank plugged to the ocean on your way to the train, or see leopards from the train.

Nothing extraordinary.
I didn't look it up but China is trying to forrestate a strip in the steppes they call the green belt, but experience problems with the water supply, all afair.
Then I stumbled across stuff like permaculture in the desert.
I just saw Qatar aiming for such a mega project.

It's really annyoing when you put your stamp on everything.

I'm not a neo luddite.

Is physiocracy compatible with 21th century? I think it'd benefit the nature.

Oh wow that was the sort of thing I was hoping you'd post. Had no idea we've gotten so good at it we could revive deserts. Incredible.

The mods just bumplocked this thread.
ggnore
Gas the mods
etc.

Kill yourself, you have no idea of the science behind protecting biodiversity, you both are fools

Conservation is very important on a large scale, as ecosystems are very large in size and they need wildlife corridors

Yes OP I am studying Environmental Conservation :)

Agroforestry is the future !

I've heard of a garden in the area way old. But it was a pal who told me so I can't know for sure.

Man this whole topic is so interesting.
That's why I don't understand people occupying their time with yelling at each other or trying to put another down when these projects are so inspiring one would love volunteer for them and its easy to win people as well.

We just need plans and more brainpower.

The mods are compromised by shills.
We're only allowed to make threads that incite D&Cs now.

But yeah I agree with you.

Probably because conservation is full of brain dead lefties who never make anything profitable, as well as the large social aspects meaning nobody knows the correct issues of conservation

Why do you carry this dualistic, left right thing into this?

Because I am in university with future conservationist's, and they all support projects that are reliant on local and inefficient councils.
Alongside this is support of the EU (I'm British), and Socialist governments.

It's always doomed to slow and inefficient because too much conservation is reliant on the slither of funding they get, and the weird rules and regulations they get. For example it can take years upon years just to get the Beaver to be introduced in the UK, one project has going on longer than 10 years. This is simply because some pen pusher in the government can simply say no, meaning they are always entangled in the rules they themselves created.

Another interesting point is when I visited a site, and the guy needed to hire someone with a license just to cut down a few trees.

It's dull, slow, and inefficient because of how leftism has infiltrated it, and because of how more right wing parties have ostracized them

I wouldn't apply those simplistic terms because they only create a point of conflict.

State adminstrations start to administer themselves.

I think pointing out that there are brain dead leftist's in my course is fine, as the Green Party exists.

walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/council-defends-190k-mouse-bridge-1905039

oh my…
that might make a huge project to cash some money on the side (look into who got the contract), that's just ridiculous

adminstrations do such things here as well no matter what politcal spectrum they are from
they even build private office buildings the city guarentees to rent them just in case, and they stand empty

True, but the thing is that leftists will defend this, and a legal right too, as this was supported by the EU Habitat Directive and local councils.

I don't think it would be plausible to leave it away from local administrations, but we definitely need to turn a profit as we have many sites that are not sustainable as they are reliant on the government.

Maybe they needed to spend it in order to secure money for the next quarter or however they calculate.

Would you have a had a better system in mind?

I have no idea what the exact solutions are, but I do think there are some key things we can do

Education: People don't know about how best to preserve biodiversity, they don't know enough about ecosystems and are focused on muh global warming. Also, as someone from the UK I can 100% confirm people have no idea about what a natural landscape looks like, because of how long we haven't had one for.

Immigration: Stop niggers, stop shitskins coming into the west

Agroforestry: Boost this massively with social enterprises, subsidies, privately? Possibly have some form of certification on products like they have with free range eggs

Nationalism: Get the love of our land back

Reserves: Get more valuable landscapes in a range of areas under private and public protection

Regulations: Get rid of the ones we don't need such as the EU ones

I suppose overall we need the right wing support, it's far more rational. We visited one site that was some sort of hippy center for camping, reforestation, bronze age buildings and community projects. The place is in a debt of over £300,000 with mortgage costs and is supported by public funding, and they claim it is a local sustainable project

Sorry for not having been specific enough but I meant on the exact problem of the mice crossing the roads.

lol

i wouldnt have built a bridge in the first place

do you prefer tunnels?

Op was weak but topic itself is great.

MODS FUCK YOU

yeah i do, but looking at the road itself, and the fact it was for one species, any significant amount of money spent is a waste

I thought so too, but he added to it later in the thread.
It isn't much worse than the people spamming 75 so I think it's okay.

That's great planning.

Only weak point was my grammar in the Wales bridge debate.

Is anyone here working in conservation atm?

counter-currents.com/2015/12/honoring-pentti-linkola/

counter-currents.com/2011/06/in-praise-of-pentti-linkola/

counter-currents.com/2015/07/robert-stark-interviews-greg-johnson-on-eco-fascism/

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Do you even "Dune"?

That video is amazing. @5:50 they end up getting mushrooms for the very first time, that's so cool. I can't imagine what kind of interesting fungus and other plants they're going to find with reforesting permaculture techniques like this.

@7:00 Once the funding was cut out it continued to develop itself, so even sandniggers couldn't ruin it (yet).

Chickens are really good. Good protein source eggs daily and chicken poop is godly in compost.

I am working on a garden now and want to get into aquaculture and algae farming in the future after I get more knowledge.

For a Brit into ecological stuff the National Trust might be a good starting point. It has more active members than all the political parties in the UK combined, and the general membership is small 'c' conservative (not 'ours', but not antithetical either).

Eugenics is applying artificial selection where natural selection has become lessened by technological society. It is a necessary counterbalance to civilization to prevent genetic decadence.

Oh fuck off. "Organic" is a scam top to bottom and has absolutely nothing to do with individual/small farming. It's "you pay more money to eat broader-based pesticides more likely to hurt you" (such as copper sulfate) farming.

I have found that it is very easy to convert environmentalists to right wing views. It's because right wing is a lot about natural order.

Or you could use none.

I started a veg garden this year mostly from interest in Harvest Moon but I also thought growing food would be a valuable skill to have, in the same way last year I learned firearm operation and maintenance.

It really is easier to do than most people think, and not that expensive either. The biggest money drain for me was the soil to fill up all the containers. But even if you don't plant in containers, you'll still want to buy bags of soil for your beds at least the first go around, since soil composition is so importation and you don't want to risk losing your crop if your native soil ends up being shit.

Lots of them veg can also be recycled. Cut the tops off carrots and plant them and they will continue to grow.

you can do this for potatoes and sweet potatoes, occasionally onions if you know what you're doing.

doing the carrot top thing will only grow more greens, not a taproot, so you would only do that if you wanted carrot greens for whatever reason.

I have carrots growing outside that I grew from about an inch of a shop bought one. I don't plant the green bit only, you plant the orange part.

Ew, chink music ruined that video OP.

I would be worried about plastic shit leeching into my soil.

As a National Socialist: absolutely. We are the first environmentalists at least of the modern age. Mankind depends upon his environment and ecosystem, and if he is not take care of them then he does not take care of himself. What we take from nature we should make efforts to put back into it or at the very least not hinder the natural regeneration of the Earth.

This is an important angle that we often don't take advantage of when speaking to others.

theres nothing in the tote to transfer chemicals. it would have to heat up to the point of the plastic melting for anything you get in the the soil. fungus has been my major enemy when the humidity, rain, and temperature make it easy for blight to catch on.

This
Also, by abandoning those roots we leave them open to occupation by leftists

I truly wonder why leftcucks are so up in arms about preserving biodiversity for animals and supporting white genocide at the same time. Somebody with the right artistic skills should meme up something about it.

They're really not, it's all about social signalling to them

A lot of their projects end up fucking the environment even more

I still don't get it. They must believe that shit is right, at least to some degree, yet when it coms to humans it all flies right out of the window. If this isn't the biggest case of human exceptionalism, I don't know what is.

I know a fair bit about the topic and the politics and policies attached to it (at least within the EU nations) as I know people who work in the field.

With the exception of wealthy landowners/ farmers (who look to specialists in the field for advice) almost everyone involved is left/ hard left leaning. Something to bare in mind if OP is thinking of perusing a degree in conservation ecology.

As Nationalism rises (and it clearly is) I think it is important that environmental issues not be disregarded as the domain of the left. Any true Nationalist takes these matters to heart and wants to leave his descendants healthy clay.

This is a decent topic but I don’t have much to add from a practical standpoint.

Huh

Leftists are walking contradictions. They believe in evolution yet when it comes to humans we're all the same. When it comes to biodiversity, again, they stop at humans. When it comes to culture, again, they stop at humans.

They're insane.

It's because many leftists are mentally damaged and irrational, they come from sheltered back grounds, single mothers, and are often r-selected.

Controlling environmentalism is fantastic because it allows further state control of resources, and feeds into the idea that we are helping the planet and everyone in it (also feeds r-type genetics).

I also think you should consider the element that many people on the right side of the spectrum, such as republicans in the US, have time and time again disapproved of environmental work; insults, stereotyping and everything in-between. As stated previously, the only people wiling to stand up will be leftists, as they have a higher degree of empathy (or pseudo-empathy).

Imagine how many American conservatives and libertarians would label someone as a faggot for giving a shit about fungi and birds. The hijacking of environmentalism is something many share the blame for, even look at some of the people in this thread.

Maybe you could also consider that much of the interest in the environment often appeals to a meeker type of personality, someone who doesn't stir too much fuss, as that is what I generally find.

What you are saying is we need to make environmentalism great again.

I agree

Untrue. The low average lifetimes you see earlier in history were due to high infant mortality rates, not because people were dropping dead in their 30s.

If your soil is moist then it can leach crap from the plastic.

BPA and other estrogen analogs are good for you user. Quit being so transphobic and feed your sons more plastic so we can get more high quality traps.

Ted talk I know, but good.

I would probably just construct wood boxes from untreated wood to be safe.

Nah, that shit is retarded. The only thing that will save the earth is genociding Asia and Africa and implementing controlled reproduction and eugenics. Trying to feed an ever expanding population is the dumbest idea of all time.

That was cool seeing that eagle snatch the elk dick from that coyote ' s mouth.

He shows some evidence that livestock grazing helps fight desertification and sustains grasslands, which is applicable to the thread.

Overpopulation is an entirely different topic, and since the 70's it's mainly championed by self hating liberals.

I don't know what Africa has to do with it because they don't have much industry. The GDP of all of Africa is only $2.3 trillion. I guess you mean all the pollution, but genocide is unnecessary and unfeasible.

Making exports to Africa illegal would fix the pollution problem easily since they have little to no real industry especially in the plastics department (That's controlled by the Arabs).
Asia, more specifically China, on the other hand is a much harder problem to deal with. I think a good first step would be investment into developing better carbon filters to put over the smoke stacks and decrease air pollution.
Make the addition of these filters mandatory and air pollution should rapidly decrease, but water table and ocean pollution is another whole monster on its own.

The pollution of oceans, freshwater lakes and rivers, and other bodies of water is debateably much worse than air pollution.

And finally deforestation is another huge problem but not with Asia specifically. Those stupid shits down in South America, Southern Asia, and Sub-Saharan Africa just won't stop destroying their beautifully large and bio-diverse rain forests. A simple way to fix that problem, however, is to eliminate the market for rain forest lumber. Make it illegal to import lumber that was taken from a rain forest into your country.
You may be wondering how this even affects you. Why does the biodiversity of some rain forest thousands of miles away affect my life.
Humans, specifically the ones you named (Asians, Africans), but also South Americans and even us white people are lowering the biodiversity of the species on this planet.
Many biologists believe we are in the middle of a sixth mass extinction. This new rapid extinction of species is due mostly to humans bringing invasive species that out compete and eventually dry the resources of the native species (sort of like how muslims out breed whites in our own countries).
This abrupt lessening of biodiversity means that those species affected are extremely vulnerable to disease that could potentially wipe them all out.
This tiny amount of biodiversity is present in almost everything humans eat. Our Cavendish bananas are all 99.99% genetically identical to each other because they are all cloned.
The negative effects of this cloning were seen when a certain fungus (Panama disease) wiped out almost all of the Gros Michel bananas in the 1950s.

The Gros Michel bananas were as common as the Cavendish bananas are now, but because of their genetic similarity they were almost made extinct.
This is obviously very dangerous to us because the vast majority of the food we eat is just as genetically similar as those bananas, and has the potential to all be wiped out by a single disease.

I care deeply about this subject. Humans can only be as successful as our environment.
We are making our planet less and less habitable every day.
The question is not whether the earth will survive, it will. The questions is will we survive.

.t AP environmental science student (Yeah, I know.)

TL;DR: Biodiversity and the quality of the earth is extremely important to the survival of humans, and if you are a true national socialist you should care about the environment.

Interesting video

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Because of high infant mortality. Once you got over that hump they had lifespans more like ours.

For you. Give your old Uncle Ben a call when you're tired of sharing God's green earth with a bunch of niggers and spics.

Genocide is genocide is unavoidable, necessary, and feasible.

The only question is, whose it going to be? You or me?

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Taiga or boreal forest type biome is super appealing to me, but it is hard to carve out a living there. I'd love to try to do what you suggest though

What to do, when a ship carrying a hundred passengers suddenly capsizes and only one lifeboat? When the lifeboat is full, those who hate life will try to load it with more people and sink the lot. Those who love and respect life will take the ship’s axe and sever the extra hands that cling to the sides of the boat.

-The Doctrine Of Survival And Doctor Ethics (1992)

Haha based finn, I should reall read "Will life prevail"
Although pessimism is an easy position to take

About 30k animal and plant species go extinct every year. "Protecting biodiversity" is retarded and the only one benifiting from it is your fucking ego and the corporations behind these projects. It's there to milk stupid people, basically a modern sale of indulgences just like any other kind of charity today.

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Its a topic that certainly deserves more attention than it gets. It will be very hard to get people to disconnect from the net/phone.

I tree planted in Canada for money. yes half of them are liberals and hippies. And recently got interested in gardening for vegetables from this vid. I'm thinking farming would be fun once I have a career where I can buy a home.

Nonprofits are generally corrupt as fuck (I know from working with them) but caring about the environment is a white imperative. It's an area that not only do we naturally care about, but can be used to make people second guess their opinions about white nationalists. We just have to make sure that we don't waste money or resources on scams

That's BS leftist rhetoric, never underestimate the lies you've been fed. Many of the great philosophers lived well beyond what most people live today.

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This. One of my first red-pills was how eco-friendly the National Socialist Party was.

But let's make another roach-free thread about it.

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That pup looks like a coalburner housewife.