Letting babies die. The edgy elephant in the room nobody will discuss until it's too late

In the western world, any half baked couple can accidentally conceive a little shit-spawn.

It does not matter if said couple has enough resources to support it. It will BE SUPPORTED by the state, if needed. After all, letting babies die in the first world is an abomination, right?

That would be fine and dandy. Except that shitspawns churn out other shitspawns at a greater rate than stable, self sufficient families.

In fact, the taxes (the bread) of those stable middle class families goes on to help support the little shitspawns of others, who cannot afford to raise one, or two or three by themselves.

And that would be okay and all, (muh humanity.. etc..) except that these kinds of people reproduce exponentially.

What naturally corrects itself in the wild is turned on its head with humans. There is no natural selection / correction here.

There seems to be a cognitive dissonance when picturing this system at work. Money you earned disappears from your bank account and goes to "government" who puts some if it in "welfare programs." Seems pretty simple, and "meh."

Picture instead coming home exhausted after hunting an animal in the wild to feed your hungry, hungry family. Right before you enter your cave, you tear off a chunk of your labor and throw it towards the smelly, rude, lazy family living right by your entrance. They eat it all up and holler and create noise all night as they party away. The next day, they're sleeping it off while you get ready to go hunting again.

But no worries. Because you'll bring more meat for all of us, right?

Because it's the right thing to do?

So, pol. Are you a tax cuck? How does society even begin to approach this truth before disaster hits? How does one even broach the subject that maybe your baby isn't worth saving?

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Tribal hunters always contributed to the upkeep of people who couldn't or were traditionally prohibited from hunting—elderly, shamans, women whose men were killed in battle. You're fucking crazy if you think tribes managed to exist without pulling together. Tribes like the Eskimos who sent people adrift were the exception not the rule.

Although infanticide does have a long history going back ages… Unwanted, defective, or "unlucky" infants were left out to the elements. We don't need to do that any more because now we have abortion. Too bad more people who have defective children don't avail themselves of it before giving birth to monsters.

I find it amusing that the people who are most strongly against taxes and welfare are for some illogical reason also strongly against abortion when abortion is literally the only thing curtailing the number of people who wind up leeching off the system. Amazing.

We can't handle seeing babies starve.

We've got to banish the useless adults.

Yes. What about the ones who just said "fuck it?" and decided not to hunt?

I'm sure the chieftain just rolled his eyes at those one or two odd couples who sat in the teepee all day, smoked tobacco, and waited for everyone else to return from the hunt.

Native NEETS. They mustve existed at some point… why havent we heard of them?

In China it is like 100k (probably much more) per year babies are just abandoned to die. They even have stations to abandon them set up by the government.

Pragmatism leaves a lot to be desired

If we could somehow manufacture and sell DIY abortion kits, we could fix this whole public/private debacle.

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Now NEETS were forced to work or banished. If they weren't good at hunting, they became shamans or craftsmen or something like that so they had something else to offer the tribe. Some of the Indian tribes even let the faggots stay home and help the women with gathering, cooking, making clothes, preserving food. Elders contributed their wisdom and had also made many contributions in the past that kept the tribe alive up to that point in time. Also, tribal teachings made people too ashamed to be leeches. They had a certain amount of honor for savages. That honor is lacking in today's society.

Everyone contributed something, but that something wasn't always work. Sometimes it was an intangible like spiritual guidance or luck.

Even healthy orphans were usually adopted out into other families, and widows often remarried after a time. They didn't just let them starve, because they might have value and contribute in the future.

Also, letting people off the hook isn't the problem, per se. Especially if resources are so abundant.

It's the problem of these types of people having guaranteed offspring that will survive to adulthood.

More on average than productive members.

Also passing down genetics and learned behaviors.

Do mutts produce more mutts? Or are mutts distributed equally in all litters?

Well there's the problem. In modern times, infant mortality isn't high enough. Back then, they could never have too many children because most of them died before reaching adulthood. Now, even the genetically defective live through the miracle of modern medicine. We haven't even had a good, rip-roaring plague in a while. There are too many of us, more of us than are needed. That's why we have chronic unemployment, welfare leeches, and NEETS. Also a lack of traditional values like honor that make people feel shame for not contributing.

My grandmother was born and raised in Havana Cuba in 1930. She was the second youngest out of 9 children and the only female. Her alcoholic father didn’t work and her mother did her best to feed them, dress them, and keep them happy on the salary of a seamstress. They were unfathomably poor and often were evicted out of their apartments for not being able to afford the rent. The family moved around a lot as a result. She met my grandfather at the age of 16 and married him a little over a year later.
My grandfather was one of 13 siblings. His family was also unfathomably poor, but he was a musician and an actor and had big aspirations to better himself and provide a better life for his future family. Late 1940’s/early 1950’s era Cuba was just as you’d expect it to be for a young married couple. She got pregnant with my aunt at 20, and during that time she had to face a startling realization about my grandfather.
While she was 8 months pregnant with my aunt she found him with another woman. In Latin cultures, it’s commonly accepted that men will cheat, and it’s the wife’s duty to look the other way. She thought it was a one-time occurrence and forgave him. A couple of years later of what seemed like marital bliss, she got pregnant again, this time with my mother. Several months after she was born, a woman showed up at my grandmother’s door with a baby slightly younger than my mother with eyes undeniably the same gray blue as my grandfather’s. Again my grandmother was heartbroken, but felt there was nothing she could do. You simply couldn’t get divorced in Catholic Cuba in 1954. Her family and friends didn’t see the problem. My grandfather was providing them with a home and food and a good life; so what if he was unfaithful?
Stuck in a loveless marriage with two children and a man that was openly being unfaithful to her, my grandmother decided she didn’t want to continue adding mouths to feed to her dysfunctional family. She didn’t want to live an impoverished life of scraping by like she did as a child. She didn’t want to have any more children, but the Pill didn’t exist. My grandfather refused to wear condoms, declaring that he only wore condoms when he ‘slept with his whores’ and couldn’t be expected to do the same with his own wife. She couldn’t refuse sex either, women were basically considered property and that meant their husbands had more rights over their bodies than they did.
So she did what she felt she had to do.
Between 1954 and 1966 she had 33 abortions. Thirty-three back-office, back-alley abortions in Cuba; where abortions were illegal until 1968. She is proud of this. She saved those unborn children from hungry bellies, suffering through Communist rule and living in poverty like she and her siblings had grown up. By the time she was 36 years old, her uterus had been ripped to shreds, and she had to have full hysterectomy. She had to go on hormones that changed her body, her face, her moods and personality. But she was thankful, because she wouldn’t have to have any more abortions.
Laws don’t stop women from having abortions. Morals, or a perceived lack thereof, don’t stop women from having abortions. Sometimes it’s the most humane thing they can do, not for themselves, not out of selfishness, but out of selflessness. Out of a concern for a human that will never exist. They endure some suffering to prevent the future suffering of something else.
My grandmother is proud she had 33 abortions because she did what she had to do to make sure her existing children didn’t suffer either. In 1967 when my grandfather received the call that they had a way out of Cuba, my grandmother didn’t have to worry about which children she would leave behind, like so many others did. They were able to all escape together as a family. They were able to come to the U.S., land of the free and build better lives for themselves, and their children and their children’s children (me included) were able to have better lives than we ever would have in Cuba.
Thanks to science and progress I have had access to birth control and safe and legal abortions my whole life. I was able to decide for myself that I don’t ever want to have children in fact. I wasn’t held prisoner by marriage or antiquated laws or misogynistic culture. My grandmother had 33 abortions so that I didn’t have to have any.
When I see the current political tide turning the other way, and the laws that keep popping up all over this country, my country, the one that is supposed to be the land of the free, I don’t think that the people passing these laws understand that for millions of years women have done what they feel they have to do, and they will continue to do so.
Reproductive rights are human rights. Freedom to choose if, when and how we have children is basic human right. No one WANTS to have 33 abortions, but my 86 year old grandmother says she has no regrets. In fact, she proudly tells people her story.

Not anymore, considering the demand has been met with a state-crafted supply of "access" to abortion.
It's fundamentally corrupt, and could use some competition.

33 dead little subhumans.

You, the Turks and Brazilians should get together and establish a new "white" order.

Good on your Grandma for loving that coat hanger.

Yes. Have your babies.

Just don't ask for handouts?

What wonderful reading comprehension. It's like you took the meaning right out of the text and interpreted it in the most retarded way possible! Congrats!

Yep.

Tits or gtfo

Anyone has the chinese comic that inspired the "country with the red-pill on its flag " screencap?

Where are the tits, Juanita?

bring back 4th trimester abortions

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BTW, nice story faggot

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I hate that we are subsidizing weakness and interferring with natural selection. And since I am powerless to stop this, I must admit that I am a tax cuck.

Privatize all education. Cuf all welfare programs.

weeeeeeewwwwwwwwww

sauce on them euthanasia stations?

80%> European babies need dem programs, all other babies unable to be supported get no aid. Asians will get by, the best of the non-Euro non-slants will get by. Everything works out just fine.

Show me the way user.

The day of the rope comes for you and the rest of the r-selected scum

do you have to press enter on everypost?

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I'm starting to think this is by design.

90%> I'm not paying for fucking smart Mexicans

Gee, where have you been your whole life? Living in a cave in Virginia? Of that's the design.

Niggers are like 10% of the population, so by these rates Abortion is just killing a white Nation

same deal with the people who want post-birth abortion to be legalized.
the gist of it is that the baby isn't self-aware, so who cares what you do with it? which basically is saying you can fuck newborns if you want.

the logical conclusion is that you can also "abort" any sleeping person, given that they are not self aware at the time of abortion.

sounds like politicians familia

Should I start having babies with my baby crazy girlfriend? She wants 8 and we're both white.

Except a sleeping person has attained sentience which has temporarily been suspended. An infant has not yet achieved sentience.

Depends are you the only guy she's had and will you marry her?

a sleeping person is not sentient. neither is a newborn child.
end of discussion.

No neither of us were virgins when we met. We are in our late 20's so it's not exactly easy to find a virgin at this stage in my life unless I want to kidnap a 10 year old. Yeah we'll be married at some point but I'm so sick of seeing so many Muslim babies around here I feel like we are just wasting time.

I think its more like 30%

It is a gamble.

Usually guys should be 5-10 years older than the chick they are marrying for maximum stability but whatever you want man

tiptop kek

if you are unable to support your kid. the state should take it, and the parents executed.

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Find this article, same argument from 1960

Idiot. Whites are 69% and get 36% of abortions, that means abortion happens to shitskins more than Whites.

Abortion has kept the nigger population from growing from 13% of the US population. You're welcome.

White abortion victims usually would be bastards and the mothers would go on to be single mothers, or find a beta to cuck.

I'm not interested in cucking for unborn bastards.

Abortion is a tool of the patriarchy for controlling women's reproduction.

This fucking retard can't into percentage rates

GTFO lolbergtardians. You small government won't do shit to stem the tide. We need a BIGGER government – a WHITE government that will solve the shitskin problem.
>>>/retard/

I am 100% OK with letting babies die. I say this as a father.

Friendly reminder that this is all manufactured on purpose to keep the Democrat voter base healthy.


It's all a ruse.

The baby argument that pulls on heart strings is the same as any "but think of the children!" argument used by any politician.

Infanticide is an important part of eugenics, and something that Europeans have until recently (read: >1960s) practiced and accepted. Now, with christcuck turbo(((pro-life))) zealots, you're considered a monster for aborting a downie. Better to force a broken half-human and source of derision into existence, than be humane and prevent its life of mockery and ruin. Better to bring down an entire family and suck away resources (attention, emotion, finances, etc) from healthy children to care for that broken mass of tissues. Why not just adopt a nigger?

Every parent has the natural right to kill their children up to a certain age. Only a dysgenic-worshipping kike-lover would argue otherwise. This is one of the major issues of the so-called right of USA. I don't have the energy to do a write-up of your downward spiral of opposing (actually complementary, lock-step) authoritarian forces atm, but basically whatever your puritan right doesn't demand and cater to and destroy and legislate, the marxist left will.

Ahahahahahahahahaha

The State could stop running into so much debt, trying to pay for everyone's healthcare, then if a baby was costing too much money only the rich would afford the special medical bills to keep a sick baby alive.

There's nothing we can do about it. Humanity is full blown retard and it will only learn after the consequences have been realized.

WHAT YOU CAN DO is prepare for the inevitable happening to protect those you deem worthy of surviving. Everything else is out of your hands, let it play out and enjoy the show.

You'll never convince anyone to kill babies, even shitskin spawn. Normies would get mass triggered. You can only prevent them. FREE ABORTION. An abortion is $400. A lifetime of welfare prevented by a few hundred bux? What's that return on investment, 6X10^gorillion?

Oh look, all useful people or people who served you in the past. Not some lazy shitstain who came over from the tribe across the river because he heard you would gib him stuff while he sits on his ass and reproduces to the point that one hunter supports 5 layabouts.

Berry pickers are pretty much as NEET as you'll get in those days

You are a retard. If you really want to look into eugenics, focus on abortions, medical and genetic testing for unborn children and prevention of any births coming from unfit people. Killing children after they are born is just bad RP and you don't need that.

Overpopulation is only a problem because of retarded resource management. The kikes at the top are purposefully creating shortages and cost to collapse the current system so they can roll out their new one world government. A world government with a stated goal to reduce the population to

Sounds legit

Tax is not the problem, infrastructure needs to be done, and something have to pay for that.
welfare is the problem

either concede that tax is needed, or propose an alternative to the way infrastructure is paid for

No one likes taxes really. Problem is how the tax revenue money is spent.

so, 1 every 4 months?
so, as pregnancies couldn't be reliably detected before late 2nd month at most, a back alley abortion needing to be made the same day pregnancy was detected and without causing any future fecundity problem, and the uterus needing at least one new period before being able to be impregnated again, that means she got pregnant every single time she became fertile again, when chances for this to happen are less than 20% during the day of peak fertility?
but wait!
so that means that towards the end of this 12 years period she was necessarily less fertile than in the begining, so that means that the first few years her abortions happened more frequently?

cuban medical science at the level of mathematics education or what?

So if i kill you in your sleep in not murder, because you weren't sentient at the time.

I'd love to argue that in court and see where it went.

anything is good enough to bring the system to its end user.
NEETs just need to learn survival skills and gunnery so they can at least contribute for a while in the Last War.

it's a Liberal Art graduate's equivalent of MUH HOLOCAUST user
you are not supposed to analyse it critically.

Tribes had a sense of kinship, "socialism" can't work without such a sense of familiarity and brotherhood. Otherwise, no one wants to contribute.

A collective society can only work if the society is homogenous. This is why the US is traditionally capitalist. The American dream wasn't to come here and pay for everyone else, it was to come here and get rich off everyone else, all the other groups. Compare that to the Scandinavian countries, they're relatively small and all share the same sense of identity. Of course you want to help others like you, like your family. Not a bunch of fucking foreign savages…

SEX IS FOR PROCREATION.
Anything else is incredibly Inmoral and Unethical.
she was Inmoral, she enjoyed sex buy didnt suffer giving birth

Modern medicine has gone too far. Reducing SIDS is okay, putting every crack baby or retard on life support because ALL LIFE MATTERS BAWWWW is stupid.

It's only a real person if it survives outside the womb for at least 24 hours without medical attention. Problem solved.

Were not all Amish

If you want to feel good, feel good, but ALSO provide a children.
fornication is non-White concept.
all the greek thinkers despised lust and vice

No wonder the birth rates are so shit then

Fucking jews.

Natural selection has been disabled (thanks socialism) and therefore our society becomes more and more degenerated, until the point society can't support the weak anymore and they disappear due natural selection again.

It will end either this way or like video related. So we either

1.Keep going and society will collapse sooner or later due to degenerate surplus. (the stupid way)
2.End all/most kinds of support for the people and let the strong naturally overcome the weak. (the natural way)
3.Kill/neuter all the weak/sick/stupid people. (the cruel way)
4.Let only the strong and healthy breed. (the smart, but also mostly impossible to realize way)

Yes, in a state where environmental selective pressures have been eliminated, artificial selective pressures must be introduced to prevent the genetic degeneration of the race. Not a new thought.

Maybe we should find more of the secret original xkcd panels before they were edited for zog.

To be fair, not that I give a fuck about shitskins, maybe tubal ligation and other forms of (semi)permanent contraception were illegal. A back alley aboriton is one thing, tubal ligation is a whole 'nother ballgame of potential problems and not something a street shitter should ever attempt. Whether or not OP is honest or true, I see he has poisoned this entire thread of practical inquiry with his story of a shitskin streetshitter.


I assume you mean bad PR (public relations) not RP (role-playing). FFS, Shlomo, you give us enough bad PR for being ethnonationalists (which excludes kikes from every nation but that *worked* and upheld by kikes). It's not like babby's first redpill will be infanticide. Fucking christcuck terminal retards care too much about subverting the old ways because they were raised in the new (jew-approved) ways of dysgenics. If you care so much about (((public opinion))) then you're on the wrong site, gamergatecuck.

Bloodlines aren't purified easily. You can contend that genetic duds have a place in life, but ultimately they don't and it's sadistic to force duds into life and keep them there. Even potatowheels agrees, he should've been aborted or murdered in early development rather than suffer the mockery of a life of pain and fragility he has endured. For your sick fuck ass, that may mean one less potential christian; for everyone else, that means a better society.

bump

I think normies would be okay with it, actually

No one likes nigs

Abortion is pretty grand precisely because it keeps nog levels down. Only christkikes think otherwise because 'muh sanctity of life'.

None of which are obviously invasive outsiders–who look radically different than you, who speak different language/dialect than you, who dress differently than you, who disregard the laws that you adhere to, who openly mock you, who steal from you, who assault you…you're pulling a pathological altruism card here.
I consider this argument eviscerated.

Don't worry, user. Us evil Christians, when all is said and done, will just sterilize and castrate all of your line, and none of you phony beliefs will be passed on, by word or by text.

Works for us.

We spay dogs and cats, but Niggers get government handouts to create even more welfare recipients that are a burden on whites.

The welfare state is a giant problem that needs to be addressed one of these days.It allows Niggers who can't afford to have children to pump them out by the hundreds. When i was unemployed for 2 years i didn't even go to the unemployment office and refused to take welfare, because it is embarassing and shameful, but Niggers have no shame. They have no sense of decency.

webm related.

But then y'all bellyache about Planned Parenthood, the only organization in the country that actively pushes poor people, primarily minorities, to use birth control, going so far as to pressure them to use tubiligation/vasectomy if they've had 2 or more kids/abortions.

Planned Parenthood doesn't have the power to MAKE them do anything, but they sure do a full-court press on any woman who gets an abortion there to walk out with some sort of reliable birth control. They can't go to their house and force them to take their pill every day, they can't drag them bodily to the clinic every 3 months for their depo-provera shot, but by God, they sure try.

Actually, there is. Look into the concept of the Youth Bulge in population demographics.

Basically, a youth bulge is when you have too many young people (rapid breeding like you say can cause this), violence in the society escalates.

A moderate youth bulge causes elevated crime.

Slightly worse, and you see shit like we've seen this decade – protest movements, domestic rioting, elliot roger types lashing out because they can't find a mate, etc.

At a point, though, the bulge can get so big you get the great population modulator: war.

So yes, there's natural selection; humans have simply become good at maintaining societal homeostasis to the point that it's hard for you to see. So, let them breed. The tension will eventually become so high that we stop fearing the bomb, and then the mess can be reset.

SIDS

(((Sudden))) infant death syndrome

It's when the mother doesn't love her child and emotionally abandons the child.

It's called "sudden" because all evidence points to the mother being a horrible person. Wimyn can't be found guilty of anything, so that's why SIDS (((exists))).

Actually, in human societies sex is essentially a social-bonding strategy. That facet of the sex act is what has allowed us to maintain society. Chris Ryan, PhD (Sex at Dawn guy) proves this pretty conclusively. Why do humans have sex outside of estrus? Why do humans uniquely have sex in the missionary position (unheard of in nature, other than in cetaceans)? It's to build social cohesion.

This isn't to say that unfettered promiscuity is a good thing. To the contrary, it weakens the interpersonal bond that it's supposed to reinforce. Still, your argument is flawed

Conservatards in action

Negresses don't even go to planned parenthood, they go straight to the hospital to get that free delivery and then they collect niglet bucks until they're taken away or in prison.

Abortions should be supported unless in the case of two whites, because the white population is not stable enough to warrant a loss in children

Women who have abortions are the kind of people who shouldn't be having children in the first place. A white child that grows up to be a liberal or an addict due to shitty or absent is just as bad as if a nigger was born.


You would have just been getting your money back you fucking retard, the taxes deducted from your paycheck is what funds the unemployment safety net. Your sinful pride makes you blind.

Proverbs 16:18 KJV

Yeah but then children die, and that's bad. Despite the fact that the population will grow to a point where even handouts can't sustain it anymore, and the whole thing crashes down. Instead of 10s-100s of thousands starving, you now have millions starving and and now it's going to hurt people outside the group that was irresponsible.

That's exactly how your shitty semite religion replaced true European beliefs. Bunch of murderous control freak brainwashed niggers.


I wouldn't blame Elliot Rodger's problems on tfwnogf. He is a hapa, and they usually have prominent mental and emotional problems. I have heard that white-oriental hybrids are the most psycho, though I can't confirm. Otherwise you are correct, when pop growth outpaces economic/agricultural/etc development, and young men have nothing to do, they get restless.


You might be interested in bonobos, they are hypersexual and seem to resolve and punctuate everything with sex.


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