Myers-Briggs Personality Type INTP- Am I doomed?

mfw entj masterrace

myers brigs were literally two women mother and daughter one of which didnt finish any school hijacking jungian analysis and writing up fancy names then selling books
its bullshit and you are probably a bit low on intelligence if you cant see through it

Considering that the results of the MBTI are accurate for most people, I'm willing to rely on it.

I got
(INFP, -A/-T)

Quit it with your shit. Personalities change every few years after good or bad experiences. Don't let some fucking online quiz define you.

t. INTJ LOL

found the roastie

it doesn't matter, faggot

user, it does not dictate your future. Think it merely as a tool to help better understand yourself. Know your strengths and weaknesses. Exploit your strengths and adapt to weaknesses.

Lmao I'm INTP, and I'm also a Scorpio/Libra cusp, and though they're both disturbingly good descriptors of my personality, that's only coincidence because they're both fucking retarded. Furthermore, there's also a lot about me they cannot describe, which is weird

BECAUSE IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE THAT A CENTURY OLD 100 QUESTION TEST WITH 16 POSSIBLE RESULTS SHOULD TOTALLY BE ABLE TO ACCURATELY EXPLAIN AND PREDICT THE LOGICAL CONCLUSION TO A CONSTANTLY CHANGING CHEMICAL COMPUTER WHICH CONTAINS OVER 100 BILLION NEURONS AND IS HIGHLY REACTIVE TO THE ENVIRONMENT AROUND IT AND SUBSEQUENT CHANGES TO THE BODY TO WHICH IT IS CONNECTED

Psychology is a soft science for a reason OP, and even Psychologists think this test is stupid.

You are not 1 person. Through your life you are different people, so don't think that a single internet psychology test defines you as a person.

It's possible to shift from one Myer-briggs type to another. See it as a platform for where you are and work on correcting your shortcomings.

Of course, I'm the INTJ master race, so I don't really need to change anything myself.

What's up OP, fellow INTP here and very well-studied in Myers-Briggs and Jungian typology

These aren't features inherent in INTPs and they aren't necessarily bound to your cognition. It's called "just fix it"

Myers-Briggs describes natural preferences in cognition. The truth is INTPs, like INFPs are naturally very weak at, and have very low preference of, extroverted sensation, extroverted thinking, and extroverted feeling so their natural preferences, left unchecked, lead to very low desire to create actual results in the world. INTPs NATURAL preference is to be a do-nothing space cadet. Their same ability to suppress all emotion to come to logical conclusions exists simultaneous with an, almost non-human, absence of fire within. Having the Se/Ni axis gives a level of tenacity and inner fire to make shit happen, Te/Fi has a similar effect. Types that are on the Ti/Fe AND Ne/Si axis are the INTP, ENTP, ISFJ, and ESFJ. The SFJs are motivated to do things by a desire to maintain order, tradition, and emotional structure. INTPs and ENTPs are practically only motivated by their wonderlust

This is the INTPs NATURAL manner. That doesn't mean one cannot change who they are for better outcomes. INTPs become lifelong losers in general because they're naturally fucking lazy and don't try to improve themselves or solve problems. The natural desire of INTPs, as suggested by the first two functions in their cognitive function stack, is to just sit idly and think about shit. You understand what your natural preference is, but just like you went against your natural preference of shitting and pissing wherever you want and learned to use a toilet, you can learn how to be successful. The factor you're seeing with so many loser INTPs is that they idly fell victim to their base nature and didn't work to fix anything

There's great debate about Bill Gates's type and there has been no consensus whatsoever that he's an INTP

One of my favorite aspects about myself related to my cognitive preferences is that I never get lonely and can enjoy myself without having to deal with other people's bullshit

Most of what you've described isn't inherent in INTPs and it doesn't necessarily need to be there. Any INTJ would tell you to just fix the fucking problem

You're entitled to your wrong opinion, but Jung, Myers-Briggs, and pretty much every other typology system that uses the Jungian Cognitive Functions disagrees with you. What you'll usually find is that people that describe that their type has changed are very uneducated in the theory of these typology systems, generally operate on surface level reinterpretations of the system, and are highly erratic, confused people in general

Please god lift weights, get testosterone and quit being a little bitch

Good work on not understanding human psychology.

Good work on quoting something I never said

No

lol

It really is just a test that tells you if you prefer four clearly defined ways of being over four other clearly defined ways of being. The MBTI doesn't seek to give you a comprehensive description of your entire personality and cognition and Myers-Briggs as an organization doesn't make any concrete statements about how people with specific types are going to behave in the world OTHER than people preferring four clearly defined ways of being over four clearly defined other ways of being in general. Myers-Briggs as an organization only describes patterns found in their studies, it's not so bold as to say people of a type are always going to be this way or that way. It's unlike astrology in that way and really isn't that retarded at all because if you interact with people in the world you'll see that these preferences actually exist

Barnum effect all over the place.
I asked a friend to took the test, he had a totally different type than I have yet I recognised myself as much in his type description as in mine

ISTP reporting in:
Identify your strong suits, work to improve upon your weaknesses or find ways to work around them. If interpersonal skills are your problem, either talk to more people to improve or acquire a skillset that doesn't require you interact much with others. The MBTI is not some magic thing that will predict your future, it's a guideline that you can use to help understand how you can make the best future for yourself.

Of course. It just regurgitates back to you what you answered in the questionnaire. If you think your answers were accurate, obviously the results are gonna seem accurate to you.

Psychology is fine, psychologists tend to be full of shit.

A philosopher masquerading as a scientist. Virtually none of the shit he said has ever been testable or falsifiable. The few things that could be tested were confirmed horseshit.

Typology does have merit as a method of categorization, but categories can't be "wrong" by their very nature. You can be wrong about what fits into what category, you could have a categorization method that doesn't apply universally, but the categorization itself can't be "wrong." And the notion that one MBTI type can't become another is pleading ignorance of neuroplasticity. Yes, MBTI should only be administered to an adult because they are less likely to change, but even an adult can change.

I've seen evidence of neuroplasticity at work, I've seen no evidence that one can change from being an introvert to an extrovert. I've seen no evidence that someone that predominantly prefers and relies upon sensation can change to preferring and relying upon intuition. I've seen no evidence that someone that predominantly prefers and relies upon thinking can change to preferring and relying upon feeling. I've seen no evidence that someone who prefers and relies upon extroverted judgement and introverted perception can change to preferring and relying upon introverted judgement and extroverted perception

Obviously neuroplasticity is real to some degree, but I highly doubt the various aspects of cognition and the brain are as limitlessly malleable as a lot of people are suggesting when they bring up this point. Especially in the context of the natural cognitive development that occurs throughout a lifetime. I've never seen evidence of the defined criteria of the Myers-Briggs dichotomies change in anybody. I've certainly seen evidence of the Myers-Briggs dichotomies in people. I'm of the impression that these specific preferences are highly related to genetics and are very hardwired to cognitive development. I'd probably be more open to the idea of type changing if I saw evidence of changes in these dichotomies in people, or if the people that I see going on about their type changing weren't hapless, erratic retards

I want to make it clear that I'm not saying personalities don't change. I'm saying that the four dichotomy preferences don't change, and I've seen no evidence that they do

Not sure what you're on about here, I only said that his idea that it's possible to change Myers-Briggs cognitive preference is wrong, and made the point that all the major players that have theorized, tested, arranged, and wrote about this typology system disagree with his idea. Nobody behind this family of typology systems agrees with his opinion

Never really given a shit about it. Tested court mandated therapist 10 years apart and my TJ/FP has switched almost 150%. You can add that into your stance, or ignore it. dgaf other than personally, you're off base.

i have seen evidence of all those things. the brain isn't "endlessly malleable," but it is quite so.

only considering the test valid when administered on an adult is actually the common practice among typology specialists. like it or not, the science disagrees with you there

that was more relating to the fact that Jung was largely full of shit in virtually everything he said.

Was your court mandated therapist a certified MBTI practicioner?

Ya, both of em were cert. Latest is stupid into it, she's nice. Ran em again at home because everyone puts on a mask in therapy. Same results.

Trauma and resolution can change people, user.

I'm aware of that. However just because a pre-adult is of the nature that their answers to the test would muddy the waters of their preference results, that doesn't mean their preferences aren't there to begin with. I agree that the test should be administered on adults only

What was the last type result you got on a test

nip this one in the bud, mid twenties, mid thirties

INTP=>INFJ

this is a terrible argument the same way the Freudian concept of "denial" is terrible.
"no, Freud, i don't want to fuck my mother"

see how that works? such a claim is unfalsifiable and any result you get can be used to confirm your idea in one way or another. in your case:
"i used to be this personality but changed to this"

It's really not a terrible argument. For one, that line of mine you quoted is addressing the idea that because MBTI practitioners don't give the test to pre-adults due to its unreliability, it must necessarily be the case that the pre-adult doesn't have those preferences to begin with

I'm saying that that idea isn't necessarily the case, and it's obviously very possible that other factors could be leading to pre-adults getting various different results on the test, or different results than what they get as an adult.

I'm not applying that argument to anyone that takes the test and gets a different result. I'm not just denying that all ADULTS who take the test once and take it again and get a different result don't have a different cognitive preference (although the test is far from perfect and this is possible)

except that's not what i argued at all. pre adults DO have a preference, that preference is subject to change though.

ENTP master race coming through, all other personality types are faggots.

My evidence is the fact that people often get different results at different stages in their life. Your counter to this was those that do took it at a point where they are "f the nature that their answers to the test would muddy the waters of their preference results," which is an unfalsifiable claim of the same caliber of Freudian denial.

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meant "of the same caliber *as* Freudian denial" if that was unclear

where'd the post go?

I bet you prefer turn based strategy over RTS you blubbering homosexual

Nah I'm a grandstrat fag, but real time strategy still has a place in my heart.

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lol was planning on adding it in with another reply

Naturally if people getting different results on the MBTI at different points in time as an adult proved that the dichotomy preferences can change, it would be reasonable to assume that it'd also happen in pre-adulthood, likely even moreso. I never claimed to believe the test itself is reliable. In fact it's not uncommon for people to take it a few times within a short period of time and get different results. So try not to jump to calling it denial, but I consider that largely unreliable information lol

There may have been a miscommunication at some point, but once again

was presented to denecessitate the idea that because the test isn't for pre-adults it must be the case that they have changing dichotomy preferences and don't have the cognitive preferences to begin with in a static way. It's not a response to

So to cut the shit and get back to the main point, while it's interesting that you consistently got one type result, then experienced trauma and resolution which caused you to change DICHOTOMY preferences and consistently get one other type result, I have to be skeptical because of other possible factors at work there. If there was a way to reliably use brain scans to test this, or if I was able to see people transition from one dichotomy behavior to another myself, I'd be able to consider it reliable

user pls. you're so close. you've got the suspicion of dichotomy down, how hard is it to surmise that 4 dichotomies are 4x the garbage hidden by obfuscation?

i'm going to jizz in your left hand and then hold up my hands after making you hold up both of yours, and recreate Fantasia in shadow puppets. See? No god.

It does develop over time, some genetic and some learned. I'm sure you'd agree on that point. However, any learned behavior can be unlearned. So while the genetic portion of one's personality is generally static throughout one's whole life, the learned portion is dynamic. It's just that children learn and adapt much quicker than adults. The same thing could happen to an adult in that they learn some new behavior and one of the dichotomies does a 180.

personality is an emergent property of those "other factors."

I think the miscommunication here is you have been defending the MBTI as a method of categorization while I have been solely attacking the test. This goes back to this post

Methods of categorization CAN'T be wrong in themselves.

I've never supported the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator instrument

Preferences for the 4 dichotomies are extremely simply defined and obvious in people in the world

Why not 1? or 2 or 16? Perhaps it's gish gallop that preys on people's inclination to understand the infinite universe through themselves in the confines of the limited capacity of the human.

You're retarded. a Typology index could have as many dichotomies as the creator wants. Fuck, it could have 1275432765434577654324567. Typology is all about utility, it's a tool. The point is to simplify the massive diversity in human behavior in a reliable, understandable way. Too many variables just makes things even more complicated.

There is actually a more generally accepted typology index called "The Big Five" which is used by many employers which has [take a guess about how many] dichotomies.

test

Thanks for proving my point. Bear with me. We're under an amount of stimulus that's limited only by our ability to understand. But we should stop because some fraud says stop. You're watching the price is right, not understanding humanity.

People's behaviors change, yes

In theory yes. More often that not what I find happens is people adapt behavior characteristic of other cognitive functions without maintaining an overall preference for it (That's what the MBTI seeks to determine, preference, not simply what you do)

Other factors, for example, like how the test is designed

The MBTI is a questionnaire and I'm not defending it. I'm only defending the basic theory behind it. That people have general preferences of one of the two options in the four dichotomies, and that they don't change

Naturally

It just happens to be 4, it's based on the symmetry of some ideas Jung came up with

I think this is common in other typology systems, but systems like Myers-Briggs and Socionics really forego any attempt to make claims about, or simplify, overall personality, and really just focus on four specific attributes

What even is your argument here?

That's not what i have seen at all.

There are only two tests which can accurately be called MBTI. There's the "real" MBTI and the abridged version with fewer questions. Online MBTI's are not MBTI for the most part.

And that's simply untrue. And you have yet to demonstrate how it is even remotely true other than either "in my experience" or speculation based on unfalsifiable assumptions.

Again, wrong. Pretty much the first thing anyone learns about the MBTI is the personality descriptions associated with one of the 16 types, and this is literally part of the design.

To speak for myself I incorporate the theory behind Jungian Cognitive Functions and Myers-Briggs to understand people along with just understanding them on a nuanced, individual human level. I think most people object so fervently to these typology systems because they think it's being suggested that human cognition and personality is so simple that it could be boiled down to some types, but that's not really what's going on here

I agree

I'm simply stating what I've experienced and the beliefs of all those that modified Jung's ideas into their own typology systems. You can believe what you want, I'm not trying to present evidence lol

It describes aspects of personality directly related to the four dichotomies. It doesn't presume to be making claims about individuals' overall personality

I don't see the point in simplifying in order to expound. It's backwards as fuck and mostly hippies and "educated beyond their means" liberal arts students espouse it as anything other than interesting.

See above as well as this (to give ammo for you to poop on so I'm not just a contrarion fuck)
Every concept originates through our equating what is unequal. No leaf ever wholly equals another, and the concept "leaf" is formed through an arbitrary abstraction from these individual differences, through forgetting the distinctions; and now it gives rise to the idea that in nature there might be something besides the leaves which would be "leaf"—some kind of original form after which all leaves have been woven, marked, copied, colored, curled, and painted, but by unskilled hands, so that no copy turned out to be a correct, reliable, and faithful image of the original form. We call a person "honest." Why did he act so honestly today? we ask. Our answer usually sounds like this: because of his honesty. Honesty! That is to say again: the leaf is the cause of the leaves.

A lot of people have claimed Cognitive Function theory and Myers-Briggs has given them much greater awareness of themself and the people in their life, they regard it as extremely beneficial

u lost the room

As i mentioned before, Jung wasn't a scientist. He had a lot of interesting ideas, but very little of actual merit. Reading his work is essentially mental masturbation for a bored mind.

Yes, that's how all of them work. The dichotomies used are the ones considered useful frames from which to understand one's personality. Because, again, typology is a tool. The goal is to simplify human personality in a meaningful way.

Nietzsche, gtfo.

A lot of people are saying the earth is flat. Appeal to majority elsewhere, my dude. This is not the place for such pedantry.
Lost you, but that's hardly my fault.

Neitzsche's conclusions were mostly shit, but the how/why still stands. Not an argument btw :^)

btw, if you actually payed attention while reading "On Truth and Lie in an Extramoral Sense" you'd realize he was not saying these arbitrations were in any way bad.

I suppose we're in agreement on that

The reason we "equate what is unequal" is because it's useful. we made a word to describe leaves as a whole because it's a fuckton more useful than naming every individual leaf in the forest.

he very clearly recognizes the pitfalls which is my entire point. i could've just picked at you without offering substance of my own, but i didn't friend. this isn't about Nietzsche, it's about Jung.

street shitting is useful as a shortcut too. You're not actually defending against any point brought up. It's deflection through jew tactics tbh.

Nietzsche had a hard-on for rhetoric and he embraced it. Take note that he pretty much defined every term he could in the most vague sense possible in order to twist it into a convoluted point. It was intentional.

Then provide an argument about Jung

However, it bears many more problems than toilet shitting does. Same thing with leaves. If I want you to get me some starter for a fire I could either tell you to "grab me some leaves" or I could tell you to "grab me the ser, tred, wer, bes, saq, buc, poik, rud, and whatever other words we came up with to designate the specific leaves around us.

lol I really lost track of who's who when a third person started commenting. Are you the INFJ?

Simplification when it comes to something that is to this day not even close to understood is garbage nonsense. It's dark matter for the masses. It's what religion was(is) to science.

Jung = astrology and giving it credence as remotely an actual science is debilitating to thought.

Oh, and as far as shortcuts that are too great (like street shitting), one could go a step further and call all plant parts "leaves," but that would cause other problems due to lack of specificity. We come up with words for things with USEFUL variation from other things.

You recognize it's a shortcut and only useful in certain circumstances but Jung pushes that shit onto the masses in the form of complexity and completeness. Come on, user.

Nah, ISTP here.

Simplification is HOW we come to understand.

Dark matter is simply the discrepancy in mass between the results of Einstein's equations and observation on large scales. We don't know what's going on with it so we just add the difference to our equations and call it "Dark matter" and everything balances out as expected and accurate predictions can be made.

I 100% agree. It's the guy i was arguing against that actually believes his horseshit. Typology in general is a decent tool though. It is useful in some applications and circumstances and therefor should be kept around for when they come up.

Already answered above, just quoting this so you know I saw it.

Myers-Briggs testing is a load of bullshit, do you really believe all 7 billion people on the planet can be pigeon-holed into one of 16 personality types?

I love arguing on bee. I understand the need for simplicity as an intro point, but it's dangerous af in the headline society we have now. Take the opposite stance often in order to combat.

ooo there's that point again

I used to prefer arguing on /n/, but it's dead now ;_;

hit critical nostalgia on that Holla Forums chimpout gondola thread the other night. work with what we're given, m8

Yeah I agree it's not the absolute truth and shouldn't be taken as such. But considering that a lot of INTPs do face similar debilitating problems and have a tendency to fuck up, I actually just want to use this knowledge to avoid the same mistakes.

I would say that overthinking and then not taking any action are pretty common among us INTPs. I know that these are fixable problems but what is important to remember is that each of us is going through his life in a set of very different circumstances. In my case, even though I am an INTP and generally dislike talking to people I do have a group of friends(5-6 guys) but even though I drink and smoke up with these guys I still don't ever feel I can fully rely on them and it just kills me that they're just dumb enough to think that what works for them in terms of women and physique will also work for me. My parents also don't seem to understand my problems and my dad thinks I'm just being a whiny little bitch(which is true to a certain degree) but the only reason I'm not going anywhere in life is because I don't have a reliable support system and people who know the right way to egg me on.

Yeah I try and think along the same lines, to build upon my social skills and follow my strengths. Problem is that I don't cope well with failure/rejection. For example, last time I started going to the gym for like a week, felt like a total noob, once or twice a supposed friend of mine called me out on some dumbass shit I was doing so I became very self conscious and never went back to the gym again. Same reason why I don't try to approach girls ananymore.

Thanks for the advice user. I hope you do better for yourself as well, at least you have a job and a few hobbies you enjoy. Good luck INTP brother.

Both my parents pretty much do nothing but condescend to me and treat me like an incompetent child no matter what, ignoring all my ability. I have no support system, in fact everyone that was even in my circle of friends just wanted to see me fail

I keep going after what I want even when everything in the world is against me. You can definitely drive yourself to get your shit together without other people

idk who you are in real life, or if you have a hard time putting on muscle gains to get a good physique, or if you're fatally ugly or unfixably awkward and socially anxious to the point that you can't pick up women

What is true is that you seem to have a bunch of bitch mannerisms: You overthink everything, you have to rely on other people, you're evidently not confident enough to pick up women, and you're, by admission, anxious

The most beneficial thing I've ever done in my life is bodybuilding. The effects it had on my body and hormones completely changed the way my mind works in a permanent, positive way. I'm extremely confident that all the problems you've described can be fixed by bodybuilding and increasing your testosterone levels, so you should look into that if you want success

INTPs, like all extroverted intuitors and NPs, really aren't naturally designed to stick to one vision and work to make it happen, as I'm sure you know. Whereas, say, an INTJ is designed to develop a unified vision of an ideal outcome with their Introverted Intuition function, and designed to desire to bring order and logical sensibility to their environment (especially as consistent with their Ni vision) with their extroverted thinking function; INTPs are designed to gather all kinds of abstractions and ideas from all over the place with their extroverted intuition function, and classify all this wide pool of information they gather into logical systems. In this way INTJs are very much like leaders and kings, and INTPs are very much like scholars and advisors

While increasing testosterone would fix most of the problems you've described here, it would do very little for staying on the track of a singular goal. The only two things I know that would help with that is to arrange your environment so that it'll help keep you on track, and neurofeedback therapy

I understand what you're trying to say and honestly, I feel at least somewhat motivated by hearing your story. I've received similar advice about bodybuilding, how higher T levels will boost my confidence and make me think clearer. I get what you're saying is true but I also know that I'm an anxious lazy fuck up in college with low self esteem.

Last time I tried going to the gym I just lost all will to continue within a week because I just felt like a total noob and this one friend of mine said something condescending when I made a dumb mistake and I just felt like I couldn't do it anymore.

I'm really scared of starting a proper gym routine because of what people will say/think if I fuck up/give up again. I feel really stressed out by the Idea if looking like an autistic weirdo in the Gym.

The problem with picking up girls is more complex but also something I'm less anxious about, TBH I'm not an ugly guy and am tall enough for my country. The biggest issue is that my college has a very restricted pool of decent looking girls and gossip travels quickly here. So if I hit on a girl and she rejects my advances the entire college would know in a few days.

Obviously, this can be so solved by approaching random girls at clubs but this city doesn't have a good club scene. I'm not worried about this because I don't feel very anxious under confident about approaching girls who i'll probably never see again.

I'm sure you must have faced your own set of challenges when you decided to start bodybuilding. Maybe you could elaborate on those experiences and how overcame those hurdles. Also, I'm a total noob when it comes to physical fitness so if you could guide me to decent resources for someone like me that'd be great.

Absolutely. By the time I was 17 I was suicidally depressed, highly socially anxious, had body dysmorphia and couldn't shake the perception that I'm ugly as fuck even though I've come to find in clear mind the opposite is true (like most females), every time I made a good friend they basically quit on me because they thought I was a weirdo, I didn't have a clue about how the body is supposed to be treated and filled my body with horrible shit, my posture was laughably fucked up in all kinds of hilarious ways because I spent most of my time in the house in less-than-ideal positions on a couch playing video games and watching youtube videos. I was a fucking mess, and although I was generally a healthy weight my entire life I was starting to put on some pounds from the alcoholism and junk food. I was also smoking a bunch of cigarettes. My body was a graveyard, it's really no wonder my mood was in the shithouse

I was in high school and among the best students in the classical guitar program, I was selected to go to All State, a performance of the best student musicians in the state, for the second year in a row. The other student that got into All State for guitar came along in a car ride with our guitar teacher, and we stayed at a hotel when we weren't training for the performance. We had an amazing time, we made all kinds of inside jokes and it was awesome. It really was a bonding experience and I felt like I made a great friend. When All State was over he went back home with the guitar teacher and I went back home with my parents. When we got back to school, he behaved as if we had never were friends. He got back with his group, and I'm back to being the weirdo. This in combination with the shittiness and disrespect of all kinds of other people in my life, including my parents, cousins, and other "friends" started to get to me. One day, with all these various factors built up, I'm sitting on the couch and I look to the elliptical machine to my left. I go furiously ballistic, get up, go over to the elliptical machine, and having never really exercised in my life, push myself on this machine to total exhaustion until I'm a sweaty broken mess. Then the next day, I decide I'm gonna do what I did yesterday, but now I'm gonna add five whole minutes to my total time on this cardio machine. I do the same the day after that, and add five more minutes, and this time in the last 1 minute I sprint full speed on the thing. and I do the same thing, adding five minutes each, going faster and faster each day, for weeks. I change my diet and start eating all kinds of healthy food. After about a month of this, my entire mood changed and I felt generally much better. Then around the last couple months of high school I decided to take it to the next level and incorporate muscle building exercises by doing P90x2. I get a bunch of weights and the necessary tools, and I start bangin it out every single day. I do this for a couple months, and I'm starting to put on muscle like crazy and I'm feeling way better. At this point I decide I want to do a more bodybuilding focused workout to put on lots of muscle, so I download another Beach Body product called "Body Beast". I do this workout for a couple months, and I feel like a god. My testosterone gets jacked up, I have ridiculous muscle gains, my confidence is way higher, and I'm nearly euphoric. I start to learn about all kinds of other health techniques to give me the advantage, and around the time that I'm getting ready to go off to college I start doing no fap. My confidence is absurdly high at this point, I've become the opposite of the person I was in high school, and now bitches are starting to hit on me, and I end up getting an attractive girlfriend, and my testosterone allows me to dominate the relationship and tear through her shit tests. That's pretty much the end of this part of the story, I'm 21 now

I overcame my obstacles and hurdles by channeling that fire within and saying "enough is enough, fuck this, fuck everybody but me, it's time to fucking dominate"

Body Beast changed my life, and it's a home workout program. That means you don't have to worry about other people judging your shit

I'm blessed to have no desire whatsoever to have romantic or sexual relationships in my life. What I learned is the best way to attract females is to become extremely confident and focus singularly on your life goals and vision, independent of them. Women are utterly disgusted by desperation for them, and are so to a lesser degree disgusted by admiration of, and desire for, them. The cliché is true, women are attracted to confident dudes that don't give a fuck about them

I'd just torrent body beast, buy some weights, and get to work. You can also do what I did and start with cardio or a combination home cardio+weightlifting program like P90x. The exercise is huge, it gives you all kinds of chemical advantages besides increasing testosterone, but testosterone is the main thing that needs to increase, and with that in mind there's a lot of other important shit that should be done like increasing zinc levels, gettting vitamin D from the sun, getting magnesium, eating the right foods, no fap, and the works

At the end of the day you either do what you need to do and become a champ, or you stay a loser. I don't need to remind you that the universe doesn't care which option you choose

Pshchology is bullshit. Plenty of real problems to fix without going along with cowards acting them out so the shrink is the good guy.

Psychology is the problem. Not varied human beings, that's required for a good time.

There's no problem. Either you are fit, are one of the good guys, or you're not.

If you can give her a good time talk her into it.
If you can't get good.

Women like flattery so worst case scenario she feels prettier turning you down.

I don't appreciate my friends being told they have problems.

Shrinks and co want you build up problems they live off.

One of the worst aspects of capitalism creating problems to provide solutions. Making problems persist to keep industries built to maintain them functioning.

This kind of stuff should be shot on sight but cops are on the payroll, part of it no different.

Things work by good will, not because of threat.

Civilisations of constant submission aren't used to otherwise. They live based on how sold out and common they are. Even hate unique as ugly. Hurtful otherwise. Need to get out of the habit of following and acting as their living.

I like people different. It's a triumph of theirs.

Wow, that's an incredible story. I can really relate to being a total weirdo at around 17-18 with very few friends though my experience was never as bad as yours apart from constantly getting ignored/mocked by the popular kids. I've had numerous experiences where I've felt really disrespected by supposed "friends", kind of like your experience with guitar class buddy. The amount of disrespect and condescension almost Madden's me but there are a few occasions when people tell me I'm interesting to talk to/some chicks might dig me/I'm good at something where I just feel very validated and happy and just go back to being a lazy loser.

I'm also in college now and I'll be turning 21 in a few months. I'm grateful for all your specific advice and hopefully will push myself into doing at least some cardio everyday. I live in a Hostel where my room has very little space so I think doing a proper exercise routine would not be possible before moving out to better accommodation. I really think getting an independent place outside my college campus would do wonders for me because then I will get more money from parents and can stay away from all the negative bullshit in college.
I'm actually making a little bit of headway now as I used to be a heavy smoker before though I quit and haven't smoked for almost a month now. I think now my next move should by trying to move out of this shithole and fix my life.

Take the Myers-Briggs again in a year after some of your values and ideas have changed. Take the Myers-Briggs after a great success. Take the Myers-Briggs after a monumental failure. Take the Myers-Briggs when you are depressed.
You will get different results every time assuming you weren't stupid and memorized your answers in an attempt to pigeon-hole yourself into a static personality/mindframe that doesn't permit you to change….

Myers-Briggs is only good as a small tool to help with introspection(at the current time you take it) and in no way does it reflect how you will behave/think throughout your life

Unless you are autistic enough to let a test tell you who you are and how you think…..

yeah I'll do that thanks for the tip. not that I have many great successes lol. Only really feel euphoric after getting very drunk.

lol he's not actually telling you to do that dude, he's making the point that the MBTI instrument isn't very reliable

I don't know about that, still it makes sense to take it a few times under different circumstances to see whether your type does actually change.

In after my fellow INTJs who also like to take psychology tests and talk about their results (probably).

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INTPs are way better thinkers than INTJs, the only reason INTJs do better on average is because they're not lazy pieces of shit like most of the INTPs.

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Consider the following.
The correlation between MBTI and The Big 5 personality inventories is staggering, and the latter is extremely well regarded. Is MBTI a bit zodiac-esq? Absolutely. Is there some evidence that there is truth to it? An equally unenthusiastic absolutely.

Stop feeling sorry for yourself, it disgusts me.
Work on yourself, and do whatever you need to do to get what you want out of life.

I'm an INTP myself, you know what i've noticed?
If you let yourself, you fail. If you get of your arse, you accomplish shit.

ISTP master race

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISTP

Guess I'm gonna go be libertarian now lol thx guys

I'm INTJ, KHV, NEET. Nothing matters to me, I don't feel anything except yearning for some vague meaningful bullshit that doesn't exist. I wish I could relate to someone but I also don't care to. I can't decide on a thing, ever, I don't know anything, can't do anything. Waiting to die.

Not that psychology isn't horse piss, but I wish I at least had the positive traits I'm apparently supposed to.

Assuming you are actually an INTJ what you're describing is symptomatic of severe Extroverted Thinking deficiency and an Introverted Intuition and Introverted Feeling (Ni-Fi) loop process. Most of the powerhouse traits INTJs have are directly related to the synergy of Introverted Intuition and Extroverted Thinking, so if you don't use your auxiliary function, you are, more than other types, truly fucked

It's also possible to be a genetic fuckup of an INTJ and be a dumb INTJ, which is a shit position to be in because INTJs have a bunch of disadvantages and bank on a few massive advantages and skills that are basically negated if the individual has low intelligence

The test has a very good way of making you think that you are 100% the person it describes you to be, but the truth is (and any good test will tell you this when you get your result) is that your personality type is actually just a broad stroke, and you shouldn't feel confined by it just because of your results.

Keep being you, if you want to improve your life, then improve your life because you have that ability as a human being.