Holla Forums I implore you, make use of /meadhall/!

Excuse me?
National Socialist Germany decided to annex the Netherlands because they are both aryan countries, yet the Netherlands was very much allowed to keep their own culture.
It seems you haven't grasped the slightest idea of what this thread is about or what the relationship is between the Netherlands and Germany.
Go to grammar class, you fool.

Haven't checked the TRS forums yet, I'll check it out. Do they have the same mentality as Holla Forums?

It's not, just ask in any /meadhall/ thread, they might have set up other means of communication to keep out unwanted eyes.

okay, what part of stop lying don't you understand

dutch are germans, period.
the future of nederlands is germany.
that is just the way it is.
if you don't like that concept, then go cry to the english again.
then the true germans will explode all your dykes and flood your lands with water because you don't want to embrace your destiny.
don't make the same mistake this time.

Obvious bait is obvious. Remove yourself.

NEVAR FORGET THE 6 MILLION BICYCLES

FUCKEN KANKER!

yes they do

YOUR FUTURE NETHERLANDS

we only want to help you embrace your inner german, dont be like the english and perish.

you have autism m8
Germany is in just as bad condition as the bongistanis

kek

I think the Germans are having more problems right now than the Dutch are.
What, with Merkel and all.
Nice thumbnail though.

THIS

It is quite simple.
Nederlands will be Germany.
Or Nederlands will be water.
any people fleeing nederlands will go to the reich, and we will amalgamate your people in das reich. It is only natural.

Netherlands, join germany for the big win, you were always germans to begin with, stop fooling yourselves.

who is we?
what reich?

you have merkel not a 4th reich
filtered

niederlaender, do not be intimidated by the english.

They fear most the dutch finally becoming germans.

when germany and nederlands are one, then we span from the channel to the alps.

Why are you trying to derail this thread?

dutchman do not listen to the english shamers.

germany will not let you become like your south african brethren.

germany controls your destiny, embrace germany or perish.

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zijn vlamingen niet gewoon nederlanders?

NIEDERLANDER! HEIM INS REICH JETZT, ES KANN NICHT ANDERS SEIN

How many succesful meets have you krauts had again? Oh, that's right. none

he isn't german he's just a shill trying to derail don't engage with him

If I had Jew blood, I'd kill myself.

Please build another temple soon, kike…we want to burn it down again.

That means you're fully Dutch. Flemings are Dutch too.

Bump for meadhall. Unity makes strength.

>>>/meadhall/ has been an amazing success considering the small amount of effort to get it started. There are "book clubs" and bar meets happening across the globe.

I'm proud to see just how successful the Dutch have been already.

For the more paranoid among you, meet under pseudonyms and throwaway emails and decide for yourselves whether or not to continue meeting. You don't need a large group to start, one or two others is enough.

Make nationalism real again and find the volk among you.

The fire rises.

Many of us use Tox also, in fact the Holla Forums groupchat was started on /meadhall/.

Any of you actually managed to uncuck yourself?

Are you still the peace only, nigger loving faggets? Or are you actually willing to go outside to remove negro, kike and mudslime?

Shit, I tried explaining how cucked you guys are, even to the older generation, but it always falls on deaf ears because of the cuck nature of dutch men.

I don't see any actual Dutch threads though?
I thought I could talk with fellow Nederlanders there but sadly not.

to iterate on this, on the halfchan, there were a bunch of apologists who instantly started having dreams about being hitler, and then circlejerking on how they said marginally above average opinion #4345.

Any of you actually non cuck beta's?

shit

As far as personal doctrine when dealing with meet ups an strangers is the assumption that at least one of the group is an informant and as such illegal activities should be discouraged to prevent entrapment scenarios.

As for extracurricular activities unaffiliated with the meet up group that you choose to take part in with trusted friends, that is your perogative. I would say as a caviat that illegal actions that are committed by members of a meet up group and subsequently prosecuted would be disavowed to protect the group.

The point of meetups is outreach and recruitment with a view of legitimizing nationalist viewpoints in political discourse, not forming hollyjew skinhead gangs

We should be focused on subversive actions not getting ourselves locked up and unemployable.

The thread is called Swamp Germans.
>>>/meadhall/4575

So you guys are a bunch of pr faggots that cower in the dark in fear of the poleec? Okay, right, not joining then.

We're so sorry that we're not gassing kikes and niggers like everyone else out there, user!
This is just the start, you moron. It's amazing that an imageboard meetup has actually succeeded for once.

To add: I dont think that most of you even have it in you anymore.

Your testosterone levels for example have dropped compared to people of your age.

a whole 100 years of kike programming also happened during that time. Pulling you away from imperialistic thinking, into cuckness.

There are countries that have roaming gangs of people going on the streets actually changing things. Like in poland. People getting fit, and getting into fistbrawls with immigrants.

What you people are, are fucking cowards. Pure fucking cucks. Your nature was fucked with 1 generation ago and you will most likely die out.

The problem is that you guys arent even willing, nor capable of doing lower level violence, which isnt as harshy punished by the law as you might think.

You cower behind your tiny little words, and fleeting feelings of glory that isnt even of your own folk. You guys are pathetic neets.

I wish you luck in forming your very own rollerboys/street gang. I hope it is everything you dream.

That said I never said our meetups shouldn't be armed and trained to take defensive action against aggressors like anti-fa and other such organizations. The no illegal activity portion is primarily a defensive measure against government agents and an attempt to mollify the rightful paranoia many potential recruits on these boards feel about expressing their political will outside the Internet.

At least we're not as cucked as America, Germany or Sweden.

We're trying to create something like the NSDAP, not something like Hell's Angels.

Ja. We moeten de grens een stuk naar het Zuiden verplaatsen maar dat willen een paar van die idiote Belgen niet

All I hear is cuckatoo

Like I said before, you guys have no hope. The way I see it, the only course for your in the future is death. You put yourself up to such a high pedestal, you guys are so blind to your own faults. jesus fuck, its no wonder that you guys are destined to die with your bloodline.

FBI fuck off

Go shoot some niggers if you want some action. We'll see you after you get assraped by your inmates tough guy

Breng het Rexisme terug!

Thanks for the encouraging words, Shlomo!

Unfounded Allusions to my age group and my inability to commit violence when it is required coupled with your aggressive attempts to use Holla Forums jargon to cast non violent meet up scenarios on Holla Forums in a negative light suggest to me some form of ulterior motive either Semitic fear of nationalists meeting or basic government radicalization procedure for copying and destroying politically dissident groups.

So it is simple Semitic fear Of white nationalists organizing using methods resistant to disruption, got it.

and you guys are still arrogant enough not to understand anything else. You think you are so fucking high, made your own ranks already, ranks of losers with loser ideology. Next up you know they will say that you are a inciter from the mystical AVID. All just cuck talk

You guys are pathetic. Stop fucking defending your cuck ways already, jesus fuck, this wont solve anything.

I should really look into Tox.

Jesus fuck, the thought of even going outside is making you tremble with fear. You know what you could be doing? Going outside in groups and not doing anything, just looking at these gangs wrong. The cops would be on you, watching, but that also means that they would be there in the mudslime neighborhoods. Its a win win.

But no, the pathetic cuck mind can only repulse in fear, and suspicion of anything saying anything that is non cuck.

You're stunningly bad at this.

You have already outed yourself.

There was an attempt/10

what will you do, pout really hard with your r selected shit genes in the hopes that you can make me feel guilt? I know actual dutch people who are more than willing to immigrate to other countries like poland because they are actually doing stuff. Your muh PR things wont change shit. The way I see it, you guys are on a path to death. Why the fuck cant you just go over de drempel and grow a pair?

Goed idee !

Anschluss Nederland-Vlaanderen wanneer ?

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Many of us would blame the Jews, we're on Holla Forums after all.
What you are suggesting is not much better than Adolf Hitler's last stand, hopeless.
To beat back Jewish influence we do what Europeans do best: Being European.
Bettering our ways and lifestyle is more important than imminent demise of the Jewish race/belief.
If a group of people were to suddenly show up and punch someone in the face, I would instantly dislike them. Normies even more so considering the person would be Jewish.
You see, we're Europeans, we have standards.

We're not afraid to go outside. We're afraid to be hated. Doing things radically is the worst way of spreading a political belief.

Because we have standards.

I am not fucking kidding when I say that I know that other dutch people think that you are losers. There are people like me who look at you and know, who despair, who are sitting in bars right now trying to drink their misery away because of how pathetic you guys are. The new generations are. Look at fucking american Holla Forums, those guys arent afraid of some mystical far reaching AIVD or some dumb shit like that.

When I look at this thread, I also only see death, and despair. You guys make me want to leave this country.

I'm not going to explain the same things again.

ik ga even in het nederlands antwoorden zodat de duidelijk schillen zich niet zouden kunnen mengen in het gesprek
zeker die ene poster die over een open bord oproept tot illegale activiteiten is ten beste een idiot en ten slechtste een informant

maar mede moeras duitsers denken jullie echt dat een van onze beide staten nog de nodig middelen en manschappen heeft om een groep vanuit een internetautistenforum te infiltreren
na brussel was het wel pijnlijk duidelijk hoe incompetent de belgische veiligheidsdienst al zijn
waar gaan de flikken trouwens mensen van onze leeftijd met kennis van internet bordcultuur vinden die willen werken voor de overheid om ons te infiltreren

I'd advise you to leave the country. I don't tolerate faggots

Look man, you dont understand, you are supposed to shut the fuck up and not talk your cuck bullshit. You are not clever, neither are the people in your ranks. You guys are fucking pathetic. Become more humble already. Just because you are slightly above average with them, doesnt mean that you arent pathetic. The averages for your kind are so far below the actual norm of what it means to be a man, that its pathetic.

Ik dacht dat het al algemeen bekend was dat het soort posters die bang zijn voor "geheime politie" en dat soort dingen over het algemeen als paranoïde worden aangezien ?

De AIVD heeft bij lange niet zo'n grote macht als de FBI of de CIA

Any utah user about

Is this what a fearful Jew looks like? Amazing.

i know a utah user if that counts

I bet you cunts arent even race realists. Seriously though, it seems like you already formed ranks, and are already dictating what cant or can be said. Already forgot that your on a chan, with much more capable people. Perhaps a little bit like the reddit crowd that cant wake up from the totalitarian dream, and are replicating it on other sites, for their own little haven of censorship.

The worst part is, some of you will actually remember all of this, but slink back into your feel good zone. Where you will pathetically crawl out of when you feel emboldened enough by enough other nancy boys like yourself.

Well I aint no nancy boy like you. So you wont get my support unless you fucking shape up.

Good enough I guess

I can simply recognize a projecting cuck.

I you are such a tough older gentleman for Dutch origin where were you when the country started going to shit? Did you gather the boys and beat back the foreign hordes and crush the traitor politicians under your boot? No? Then fuck right off.

Your projection of weakness onto the younger generation is a direct result of YOUR failings you gigantic faggot.

This new nationalist generation will recruit the vast disenfranchised youths in ways that the liberals were able to in your miserable failure of a generation that led us to this profound bucket of shit we are left to clean up.

You can project you failure and nihilism on this generation all you want but we all recognize you for the cuck you are.

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I am part of your generation sadly, only I was strong enough to uncuck myself. You guys arent. I can smell the fear, and the desperation to prove yourselves as non cucks pretty heavily from your breaths. Posting pictures of glory from countries that arent even your own. You guys are truly pathetic.

is this you?

bump

You know what I see when I look over to polish people? They are posting pictures of mouth guards, of bats and other light violence weaponry that arent really illegal.

You guys severely overestimate the cost of simply going outside in gangs and bringing the hurt to the muzzies. You guys are so fucking afraid of it that you basically attacked the one user that said how to do this, now for an entire thread. You fear some mystical AIVD, think that cops sit on every corner, not even realizing the actual number of cops in many provinces (fairly low), especially on the more rough neighborhoods.

What the fuck is going on in your minds if you think that you can just shitpost these shitskins away? Jesus fuck you cucks are pathetic.

ik had iets duidelijker moeten zijn, ik had het niet over bang zijn over de geheime politie, zoals je zegt wij zijn amerika niet zelfs als je opgepakt zou worden dit heeft amper invloed op je leven hier gevangenissen zijn toch al te overvol

mijn vraag was eerder, hoe slecht staan onze veiligheidsdiensten ervoor
ik spreek dan vooral over belgie, waar ze nog altijd geen idee hebben van de vuiligheid die in brussel aan het overkoken is, laat staan dat ze nog maar een idee zouden hebben dat pro nationalisten zouden groeperen en samenwerken over internationale forums

in het kort hoe zwak zijn onze staten eigenlijk als je voorbij de illusie kijkt
belgie heeft slecht 30k echte flikken en ongeveer 10k lijnbataljon soldaten voor een land van 11 mil inwoners
hoe staat nederland ervoor

to add to that:

You even have a "meadhall" which isnt even dutch, and then some picture of your old glory days, from the VOC. A mindset that you dont even have. What do you think brought you those colonies? Shitposting on the internet? Organizing and talking? Those forefathers werent fucking pussies like you are, nor your parents or even grandparents.

Jesus fuck. I hate you guys. Its like telling a rabbit: Hey rabbit, there is a pack of wolves coming and we need to do something, like lighting the dry grass on fire.

and you rabbits say: "but thats violent! we are rabbits, go away you probable wolf!"

In onze buurt zijn er nauwelijks 2 politiewagens voor meer dan 100k mensen…

are you guys slinking away now to your circlejerks to load up on good feelings? Perhaps exchange some thoughts that you are like the aryan supermenschen and that I am a meany, and a bully!

Well see you in a couple of, god knows when, when you finally forgot about how pathetic you are.

or perhaps you will follow your other cuck mates into bars to drink away this damage to the amygdala? Perhaps use some drugs to null the pain instead? Like smoking?

kek. fucking cucks.

All I see is death in your eyes. Too indoctrinated to get out of your jew programming. Too pathetic in your nature to ever step out of it.

I actually like reading what you have to write and what the others have to say so keep going.

Het leger van Nederland was sterker in de jaren 60 dan dat het nu is. De meeste van onze politieagenten zijn MAVO'ers die zonder na te denken doen wat de regering wil en bang zij te schieten omdat ze anders ondergescheten worden door al die idioten die afgeleverd worden door de universiteit.

Vroeger had het Nederlandse leger een combinatie van het beste materieel dat er te vinden was ( tenminste rond de koude oorlog ). We hadden flink wat Leopards en ook Franse tanks maar die heeft de overheid volgens mij verkocht om plaats te maken voor AFV's en dat soort moderne nonsens. Niet dat de multi-role combat vehicles slecht zijn maar we zitten nu feitelijk zonder korps dat gewapend is met zware pantservoertuigen. De Marechaussee is hooguit 5-7000 man groot en als ik kan afgaan op mijn ervaring denk ik dat de mensen die nu bij de Landmacht zitten niet echte soldaten zijn. Ik ken een meid die is toegelaten terwijl ze geen enkel soort eten lust, absoluut geen spiermassa heeft en bivak haat. Men dat soort mentaliteit wordt je geen soldaat. Ik zat zelf te ednken om bij de pantsertroepen te gaan maar het enige wat je tegenwoordig nog kan doen is in zo'n support vehicle rondrijden met een 25 mm kanon terwijl iedereen vertrouwd op de luchtvloot van F16's waarvan een kwart nooit vliecht om het vuile werk op te knappen

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You are incredibly invested in talking down to your (supposed) fellow Dutchmen. Are they supposed to clamour an grovel at your self aggrandizement and leap at the opportunity to impress you?

The meet ups are for Recruitment of others

I don't know how things are run in the EU but I do know that recruiting young men in bra to go fight immigrants with baseball bats is something frowned upon by police and internal investigation agencies. I also know most young men fresh out of liberal indoctrination won't be very interested in a recruitment effort of that nature.

If you want to get some friends together to fuck up immigrants be my guest, you can also try to convince meetup goers to join you outside of meetup activities.

But the point of the meetups is to convince new potential activists through rhetoric and discussion that various actions are necessary and purposeful towards a cohesive goal and vision of the future.

Your methodology seems reactionary at best, agent provocateur at worst.

Living in this shithole makes you pretty red pilled on the nature of the dutch. What I write is pretty much spot on. Other races also see them like this, and learning about all the lore, all of the history, even the r/K selection theory makes me conclude that.

The nature that these men have simply does not allow them to step out of their cuck ways anymore. They know that there is a problem. But they simply cannot formulate any proper solutions anymore. That is why more of them are committing suicide, more of them are depressed, family bonds are becoming shittier as well. The highest of them barely are even capable of formulating thoughts like white flight.

I am not sure how to reach them, how to uncuck them. Try as I might, I think that they are deadlocked into the path of death.

right, so you guys are newfags that belong on halfchan.

You're basically saying "manners are for stupid people"
Sorry but you're just not making any sense.

I assume you have a minority complex. Literally gas yourself

Look at where you are, look beyond this thread. Do you think that your kind of language even holds water here? Look at poland, russia, even other eastern bloc nations that are not apologetic about their ways. Pretty much all the nations that are standing up to the jew menace are still laughing at you guys, collectively. It is not just me. If you look at the broader picture, you could see a lot of faces laughing at people like you.

No faggot, most mead hall leaders are oldfags who have been recruiting and convincing young minds o the necessity for action and organization for years now. You admitted yourself on the previous post that you don't know how to reach them. You describe your method as trying to shock them awake and to incite reactionary violence as some form of Pavlovian response to your force of personality rather than any obvious ideological reasoning.

It is obvious to me and to you that you are an ineffective leader.

What is formulating under the mead hall project is modernized styles of subversive recruitment designed specifically to break down the mental barriers that have been put in place by the left wing indoctrination centres.

Please keep going because this is too funny. I love how you think you are above other people because you are somehow more "reactionary" and "you want to go on the streets and fight"

Yo mr. Divide, why are you focusing on the Dutch so much and not on the Germans or the U.S.A? They're far more cucked than we are.

We're very civilized and have been neutral for many years, It would be strange not to handle a neutral country neutrally.

recruiting here on Holla Forums? Really? Its not the place for newfags to be. I hoped I escaped you faggots here, but here you are, spouting more cuck bullshit.

stormfront.org/forum/

reddit please

It's less educated than here. It seemed appropriate.

You guys arent the cool kids, not really part of the core user base. You werent that on halfchan, you definitely are not that here. I havent even seen anything yet that impressed me. I just cant believe that nobody else living in this country couldnt manage to get to the top of the pyramid. I bet you guys arent even race realists, and think that semetic religions are good.

Nederlanders - this sounds patronising, but I'm proud of you. Once the long reign of terror that the schabbesgoyim still hold over us is broken, we shall be as brothers once again. This is my hope.

t. German

The "start" happened a long time ago, faggot, and it started with /new/. Not this shitty "moderate" crap you think is a revolution.

When Holla Forums has accomplished so much in mere anonymity, what has your in-person meetups accomplished, when they are so conceded in their effort?

Trans Nazis are too chicken shit to meet their own kind in real life for a simple coffee. What does that say about the success of White Nationalism?

I don't know what the fuck a Trans Nazi is supposed to be, but I've been hanging out with my brothers in spirit for months now and while admittedly we take tea more often than coffee, the movement has tripled in size regardless. Locally, that is.

That it's illegal and people don't want to get arrested? At least in Europe it is

There's /balt/ if you're interested

Power outage knocked me off for a bit but I'm back.

Most of my meadhall discussions deal with a North American/German perspective but this Internet tough guy was triggered by the success of the Dutch meadhall meetup and argued with me as If i we're Dutch when I called him on his shit.

No recruiting on campuses and bars and other gathering places. We start on /meadhall/ to find a few local old guard then try to expand and recruit local non channers to nationalism/fascism. This is the basic distributed network cell model designed to limit cooption and infiltration by government agencies while maximizing recruitment spread.

How do we know if everyone isnt Jews?
Eat bacon or ham?

Take shots of bacon grease. :^)

Or make BLTs our signature food. Everyone's gotta have one.

I have Irish genetics, so I dont want to be misidentified as a Jew.

Pretty sure the sea is about to relclaim that place. Just like Britain. Perhaps they are the reason this place has gone downhill.

The sea has been "about to reclaim that place" for the last thousand years bruv

Every time a thread appears about organizing d&c faggots spam it. In this thread its not 'is x white' but 'are dutch germans' same shit. Get fucked you double niggers. Bump

For the most part. from what I gather they're pretty larpy, but there are a few decent posters there. You didn't hear it from me, but the pol mumble is where it's at.

Yeah, let's openly debate performing violent crime with people you've never met before. You fucking imbecile.

We've always been, are, and always will be brothers.

REMINDER THAT NEXT WEEK WE DUTCH HAVE OUR NEW MEETING IN GOUDA
Ook in het geval dat je niet bij de aanstaande bijeenkomst kan zijn is het sterk aan te raden dat je de draad regelmatig in de gaten houd. We hebben eens in de maand een nieuwe bijeenkomst en op het moment zijn splinter groepjes kleinere bijeenkomsten aan het voorbereiden in Vlaanderen en het Noorden.
>>>/meadhall/4964
>>>/meadhall/4964
>>>/meadhall/4964

Ben je blind? Onze draden zijn altijd op de voorpagina.

Nederlandse gevangenissen zijn zo leeg dat we ze onderhuren aan andere landen en gebruiken voor noodopvang van crimigranten.

Marechaussee is 20k sterk

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I've met one and he was far from that.

Nondeju volgende keer beter m'n bronnen uitzoeken

I wonder if I should just show up, and laugh at all the nancy boys going to their special neet club for socializing and natsoc fetishism.

Implying it will be painful (for us swamp germans) if you Krauts flood the Randstad.

hello reddit

This. Randstad is a shithole

t. Friesland Boppe Boer

Okay Holla Forums. Please do show them what a real man looks like.

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Have to agree with the Frisian here.

t. Groninger dorpeling.

Vergeet niet dat er ook word gewerkt aan een Noorder meet, als je daar al niet naar had gekeken.

If you have mods unlike this board I'll use it primarily from now on.

Can I have a BLT minus the T?

By leaders I meant the ones who started meadhall not necessarily those who start meetups. Anyone can initiate a meet up.

I've met some pretty top tier people in my area and successful efforts are already in motion to recruit from local universities.

If there aren't many intellectual fascist/nationalists in your area the process is more difficult and it may fall to you to try and organize a cell.

Book clubs are a great way to recruit and filter and are easy to legitimize to a educational institution for advertising.

This type of activity requires knowledge, leadership, and persuasive subversive techniques as well as an ability to navigate the law. These skills can be cultivated as a personal journey as many here have done over the years but it is easier to grow with brothers at your side growing with you.

There are many book lists on /pol an /pdfs/ that can be used to hone your knowledge and persuasive skills. It also is necessary to be fit and healthy I you wih for others to follow you.

When you have cultivated an Iron Pill mentality you can begin to recruit and persuade others of the imperative o the nationalist cause.

>>>/meadhall/ can be a simple meet up tool for you to find others to gripe about the world with over a beer or it can be a tool to network with other nationalists in an effort to grow our political and intellectual base in order to provide the groundwork for an eventual political party.

Many attempts at political action have materialized on /pol over the years and each of them failed to get off the ground due to personality clashes and foolish attempts to create a leadership and policy structure before there was any significant following for the basis of our political ideas.

This new idea is to first build a decentralized, localized base of ideological support before any attempts at larger political organization.

Will you rise to the challenge and create the world you want to see?

Will you take up the mantle of Iron Pill?

im not lefty pol nor reddit. I am natsoc as well, but to you these things are more or less just empty gestures. While you masturbate over your neighbor, while having almost nothing of your own to show for it.

Here's your reply.

Seriously though, germany had all the cool natsoc stuff, what do you have? A bunch of pictures and a movement that you want to latch yourself into, so that gullible people will join you in you neet club for saying slightly offensive things?

THIS THREAD HAS BEEN OFFICIALLY DERAILED

Haha stupid goyim. Instead of filtering posts and moving on with the discussion, you took the bait. Now there will be no meetups because our paranoia and doubt made you afraid to stand up for your country and beliefs.

Enjoy the rest of your life under our sandal. It's not so bad :^)

I heard freech has a new API and works faster, you should try it out!

France already is a goner, the netherlands are pretty much confirmed to be gone as well. The new battle lines will be on poland and a couple of other eastern european nations. Vs the united caliphate of sweden, the netherlands, belgium, france and perhaps a few more.

it will take about 40ish years though, 5 years until the major cities are 60% shitskin, 10 years probably until the provinces also start to slowly get filled up by niggers. So beyond that, it will also take some time before the muzzies feel emboldened enough for civil war.

Its not like you can change the dutch nature at this point.

Fuse the Benelux into one country. The Reich and the English can fuck off (ofc the French as well).

But what if they find out I'm a quarter Mexican?

What are you even doing here?

Learning. My DNA is not an excuse to plug my ears from truth.

bump

bump for more Danes. If the Dutch can, then we can too

no. it sucks and its a very slow board