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American Elections General

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March 17, 2016 - 12:12

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Ian Roberts

How are you going to an hero when Trump loses and he still hasn't fixed your personal flaws with his surrogate father-figure powers?

May 3, 2016 - 18:20

Luis Williams

So you're one of those retards who believes the Nazis weren't right wing?

Kek, just like you hung Krupp and Boss and the other German porkies, right?

May 3, 2016 - 18:20

Brayden Miller

Porkies why think they are not porkies, the organizers and lumpens.

May 3, 2016 - 18:21

Asher Thompson

Seems I hit a nerve.

:^)

May 3, 2016 - 18:22

Carson Peterson

Are you when he wins, Bernie's gonna loose and Trump hasn't even started on Hillary yet.

Enjoy your night, this win for Bernie for a big day for you, though I'm use to that by now so it's just another day for me :^)

May 3, 2016 - 18:23

Leo King

Cenk on TYT just said Biden gets all the delegates from Clinton if she gets indicted, how's that allowed? For the pledged delegates anyway?!

May 3, 2016 - 18:24

Easton Evans

this is why retards that can't see the world beyond -le rightwing/left wing- meme should be euthanized.

Yes comrade, trump supporters are the ones renown on the interwebz for being human trash. Bernout is totally winning yes.

this is why you retards burn every single country to the ground when you get power

what is shitposting :^)

May 3, 2016 - 18:24

Jeremiah Miller

...

May 3, 2016 - 18:24

Christopher Wilson

What did he say exactly? I muted the stream for a while.

May 3, 2016 - 18:25

Alexander Kelly

Thanks for proving that you use Trump's victories as a surrogate for your own failures, lad.

May 3, 2016 - 18:25

Angel Howard

I like how you totally sidestepped my post to cry some more.

May 3, 2016 - 18:26

Hunter Jones

GERMAN DEATH CULTS
RARRR
NAZI EUGENICS
ELITE GLOBAL DOMINATION

May 3, 2016 - 18:27

Liam Perry

We're different people, also I don't see how winning money and having my choice win would strike a nerve. Goodnight, maybe Bernie will leave you less debt (unless you live with your parents) under your pillow :^)

How's that psychology degree doing, must be worth it for all those job opportunities. Night babes :^)

May 3, 2016 - 18:27

Gavin Rogers

anime is patrician

May 3, 2016 - 18:28

Thomas Jenkins

...

May 3, 2016 - 18:29

Carson Hernandez

You've made it clear that you're one of the turd positionist fags, and you've posted nazis.

If it looks like shit, sounds like shit, and smells like shit, chances are that it is indeed shit- but please, in case I'm wrong, tell me what actually are.

So fucking classcucked

May 3, 2016 - 18:30

Aiden Hernandez

He was in DC and talked to Wasserman-Schulz and other Democrats. He had no officially sources to quote, but he said many people there think, if Clinton gets indicted, Biden will get the nomination and not Bernie, he didn't really backed it up, though, or I didn't get it.

May 3, 2016 - 18:31

Grayson Wood

Sauce on this Jhonnny Rapid scene?

May 3, 2016 - 18:33

Logan Stewart

fag

May 3, 2016 - 18:34

Luis Powell

I mean the actual, legit right wing weebs, go check the GG general on Holla Forums to know what I mean.

May 3, 2016 - 18:35

Ryan Hughes

fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-mythology-of-trumps-working-class-support/

May 3, 2016 - 18:36

Cooper Jones

THANK goodness Boomers arent in their twenties

May 3, 2016 - 18:38

Noah Lee

...

May 3, 2016 - 18:39

Mason Lopez

yes yes I'm crying sooo hard right now :^)

going by your retarded statement then what am I now :^)

also

are you one of those deterministic faggots that see class as the ultimate definiton of a person? Class is a social construct :^), or do you believe in the commies fantasy of the "working class" owning the means of production? Nevermind that worker is a horrible definition or measure. Again this si why you faggots turn everything into shit when you get in power , it already happened here and I still don't understand how can commies keep pushing the same bullshit. At least commies are way better than the new progressive left though.

May 3, 2016 - 18:39

Hudson Turner

Did you not just say you were going to bed, kid? Don't even try to say that wasn't you, your underage spamming of le doritos face is extremely obvious.

May 3, 2016 - 18:40

Cooper Roberts

Bernie better get either the nomination or the VP (which is even less likely) else I'm fucking voting for that pig Trump.

May 3, 2016 - 18:41

Dylan Miller

you see faggot, this is why you should have ID's here. The other dude what some iberic moor shitposting here

ayy

May 3, 2016 - 18:42

Eli James

Sanders as VP is nearly impossible, if they want to get some votes of the Bernie movement they could pick Warren as the VP, but even that is unlikely.

May 3, 2016 - 18:44

Adrian Rodriguez

...

May 3, 2016 - 18:44

Ian Gutierrez

...

May 3, 2016 - 18:44

Joshua Fisher

i hope you're just pretending being this dense

May 3, 2016 - 18:46

Easton Lopez

If you post from a turd positionist perspective on Holla Forums, you are a fascist until proven otherwise. You have done nothing to show me otherwise.

Nice Reductio ad absurdum nerd.

True, and it's also a material economic relation.

That's socialism, and how on earth could it possibly be a "fantasy"?

lol ok kid

May 3, 2016 - 18:46

Aaron Smith

Warren would be a shrewd, cold, calculating move. The power of the vice president is extremely limited, and Warren would do much less as VP than her current position. But it would get dummies to vote for that lying porky Hillary.

May 3, 2016 - 18:47

Justin Rivera

>your

May 3, 2016 - 18:47

Thomas Hernandez

:^)

May 3, 2016 - 18:48

Isaac Gutierrez

You should seek help for you split personality disorder, my mate.

May 3, 2016 - 18:49

Jaxson Young

What are the odds of a Hillary indictment? It looks like our only way forward from here?

May 3, 2016 - 18:49

Samuel Turner

Why do Stormfags always talk like closet liberals?

May 3, 2016 - 18:50

Joshua Cruz

FBI insiders threatened to leak if no indictment. We'll see.

May 3, 2016 - 18:50

Isaiah Edwards

Because Fascism is rooted in the liberal mindset.

May 3, 2016 - 18:51

Justin Cruz

Because SJW = Stormfag and Stormfag = SJW

It's all idpol, comrade

May 3, 2016 - 18:52

Isaac Johnson

Ah. Well, alienated people tend to go for escapism and weeb stuff is right up that alley. You're talking about people who are so disconnected from reality that they believe this ridiculous right-wing bullshit. They probably had a little help disconnecting by hanging around shitty imageboards, playing shitty games, and watching shitty anime.

May 3, 2016 - 18:52

Ryan Russell

Because most liberals are closet stormfags.

May 3, 2016 - 18:52

Connor Morales

Holla Forums is basically right-wing tumblr.

May 3, 2016 - 18:54

Jaxon Edwards

It could be a winning move. I doubt they'll do it, atleast without major upsets, like a clinton win in delegates only with superdelegates, because the Clinton campaign is so full of themself, they don't think they need to appease the progressive part of their party, atleast thats their signaling strategy so far.

May 3, 2016 - 18:54

Nolan Wood

I made another one of these to see how the results have changed since the last primary;

Vote in the strawpoll here for how you'd vote in November:

strawpoll.me/10123909

May 3, 2016 - 18:56

Aiden Flores

you know what i mean. By the pure defition of the word, anyone that "works" is a worker. Also now in this fucking n century the marxist viewpoint of a worker is even more retarded s

Because everytime it happens a new elite arises and takes control of it under the guise of worker's party or whatever. You also have the problem that the "workers" might not the the specialists or the other non sweat in brawn worker types that might simply fuck off thanks to the new "proletarian" dictatorship and you'd end with a crumbling system doomed to fall. To salvage it you'd end up adapting your system with old ideas from the ebil porky world to keep it running. You know I'm talking about reality and not marxist delusions.
Also society and nations are based on way more things that simple economic relations, which as you alredy know are changing all the time.

But of course you'll probably call me a retrograde tribalist numbnut now, as it's batantly obvious that leftwign/ringwing meme ends up having globalist ambitions on both ends that end up making the people miserable and enslaved. But go ahead, you're a good talk, unlike the other faggots.

really, implement id's.

eh I really don't like using that word in english mate.

you can do better

May 3, 2016 - 19:00

Asher Allen

you know what i mean. By the pure defition of the word, anyone that "works" is a worker. Also now in this fucking n century the marxist viewpoint of a worker is even more retarded s

Because everytime it happens a new elite arises and takes control of it under the guise of worker's party or whatever. You also have the problem that the "workers" might not the the specialists or the other non sweat in brawn worker types that might simply fuck off thanks to the new "proletarian" dictatorship and you'd end with a crumbling system doomed to fall. To salvage it you'd end up adapting your system with old ideas from the ebil porky world to keep it running. You know I'm talking about reality and not marxist delusions.
Also society and nations are based on way more things that simple economic relations, which as you alredy know are changing all the time.

But of course you'll probably call me a retrograde tribalist numbnut now, as it's batantly obvious that leftwign/ringwing meme ends up having globalist ambitions on both ends that end up making the people miserable and enslaved. But go ahead, you're a good talk, unlike the other faggots.

really, implement id's.

eh I really don't like using that word in english mate.

May 3, 2016 - 19:04

Connor Ortiz

no, it seems about right

May 3, 2016 - 19:05

Tyler Price

You guys now it's been called for bernie, right?

May 3, 2016 - 19:09

Connor Cooper

Seesm so

May 3, 2016 - 19:11

Jack Robinson

i want him to livestream it

May 3, 2016 - 19:14

Benjamin Sanders

Yeah. I've been thinking though, since he didn't win by that large of a margin, how likely is he to get enough delegates? Even if CA is going Bernie as fuck, is it going to be enough?

May 3, 2016 - 19:15

Isaac Lee

140 sounds like the average between male and female

May 3, 2016 - 19:16

Easton James

Probably not but if Shitlery can't win CA that should give superdelegates pause.

May 3, 2016 - 19:18

Zachary Evans

Man... that makes me depressed. Poor children.

May 3, 2016 - 19:18

Matthew Nelson

Words have different meanings in different contexts. When leftists use the word "worker" they're referring to wage-earners and are not trying to imply that the

There's a lot of stuff to reply to in this, and considering how many assumptions you've made about me so far and how you've repeatedly failed to own up to the fact that you're a Nazi, I don't feel like you're worth my time, honestly. Every one of these assumptions you've made has been addressed, in all likelihood, hundreds of times before on Holla Forums.

This is off-topic for this thread anyway. If you want answers I encourage you to ask in the FAQ or to make your own thread, but for now I'll leave you with the fact that there exist other kinds of leftists than Marxist-Leninists.

Economic relations are the core of all societies. Economics dictate social conditions, not the other way around. This is a well-established fact at this point.

May 3, 2016 - 19:18

Brayden Wright

Bernie'd better endorse Stein if he can't secure the nomination.

May 3, 2016 - 19:19

Dominic Cox

he needs 65% or a little more of the remaining delegates to surpass(or tie) her, so it's doable, not very likely, though, considering the polls atm.

but here's a interesting article, how Sanders could profit of the finished race in the republican party:
huffingtonpost.com/seth-abramson/5-reasons-bernie-sanders-wins-big-with-cruz-dropout_b_9834348.html

May 3, 2016 - 19:20

Andrew Diaz

even if he doesn't we can still do outreach and pull Sanders supporters more to the left.

May 3, 2016 - 19:20

Tyler Cox

Just think about the future. Just. Think.

May 3, 2016 - 19:20

Andrew Stewart

...

May 3, 2016 - 19:22

Colton Garcia

what is happening in this webm?

May 3, 2016 - 19:28

Brandon Ramirez

What the fuck is that video?

May 3, 2016 - 19:28

Cameron Mitchell

they were crying… young people… wow

May 3, 2016 - 19:30

Lucas Howard

92.7% reporting, still nothing from Hancock county. Smooth democracy you got there, US

May 3, 2016 - 19:30

Oliver Hernandez

Interesting. I didn't even think about how Cruz dropping might benefit Sanders, but I don't think any Cruz supporters will switch to him, considering how they're less-extreme republicans. I figure they'd support HRC if anything. The other points are positives, however. I want to see Shillary buried.

May 3, 2016 - 19:31

Daniel Hernandez

671972>>671922
A businessman is someone who makes wise investments, with his own money, to pay in whole for useful products, which win fairly in the free market, and pays his own losses.

A businessman is not someone who makes fake investments, with other peoples' money, to fob off substandard garbage, which the market is manipulated in favor of, and siphons from outside the market during screwups.

May 3, 2016 - 19:31

Levi Lewis

I was in GG since it started; Holla Forums even put some of my tweets from my old account at the Wolfire guy on an image compilation. Fuck you, gamers are people who play games, it's got nothing to do with ideology.

May 3, 2016 - 19:33

Jonathan Campbell

It was always specifically neutral on politics. Most of us were liberals when it was really active. The only thing weeb about it was that GG liked Japan for not caving to idpol.

May 3, 2016 - 19:39

Connor Thompson

Cruz-missiles btfo

May 3, 2016 - 19:41

Eli Davis

No, man. If you're anything like me you ended up help Holla Forums fight a culture war (even if you didn't realize it at the time) and got completely distracted from what we were actually concerned about, like many.

Oh no, man. You do NOT understand how much Republicans despise Hillary. They see a """white""" guy railing against the establishment, that flicks their bean, his policies be damned. Same reason like half or more of Trump's supporters are Trump supporters. They don't actually give a shit about politics at this point as long as they get to keep muh gunz, muh gawd, muh freedumb and muh relijun, all of which Sanders would do a much better job of protecting. Then there's economic issues and things like the trans scare, but I think they're more willing to bend on those.
As a phonebanker, for me, and I can't stress this enough, THIS IS HUGE. I literally did a little autistic jitterbug dance when the rumor hit and put on "I Will Survive" when it got confirmed. Now when I call a Republican I can go off script and try to convince them to stay on the line by offering Sanders as a more competent, anti-establishment (not to mention viable) Kasich replacement. It IS a big deal.
t. Lares

May 3, 2016 - 19:43

Brandon Evans

Oh, and don't take my post to mean that you're not a leftist and neither am I. I'm just saying many of us got distracted and couldn't figure out that Gamergate was the wrong vehicle to get what we wanted in. I think I had emotional ties at that point and I saw the good in Gamergate, willing to cover my ears about the bad that got worse and worse.

May 3, 2016 - 19:44

Kevin Rogers

No, I didn't, I rejected Yiannopoulos and his attention whoring culture war bullshit. GG became irrelevant when it alienated people like me and became about Holla Forums.

May 3, 2016 - 19:44

Ryan Long

"Used pejoratively, ultra-left generally criticizes positions, especially those the mainstream historical Marxist parties, that are adopted without taking notice of the current situation or of the consequences which would result from following a proposed course. The term is used to criticize leftist positions that, for example, overstate the tempo of events, propose initiatives that overestimate the current level of militancy, or which employ a highly militant tone in their propaganda"

May 3, 2016 - 19:45

Carson Lewis

Well, I stuck around to January like a complete fool.
I believe you about the first few months, though. It really got bad around November, I'd wager. Before then Gamergate was exciting and progressive and punk and we told Holla Forums to fuck off.

May 3, 2016 - 19:46

Landon Thompson

Understood. I forgot that people get stuck on stupid things when it comes to politics, but I'm glad to hear it. Thanks for the hard work, comrade.

May 3, 2016 - 19:48

Jaxon Wood

Wow, that sounds excellent.

May 3, 2016 - 19:57

Asher Smith

that's a lot of money to lose considering what a shithole Spain is right now

May 3, 2016 - 20:02

Juan Sanders

Did it ever occur to you that there's elements of both as its simply individuals and both boards are focusing on the negatives?

May 3, 2016 - 20:05

Ryder Perry

I've always only ever seen "redpilled" "libertarian" MRA idiots doing the gamergate thing, but to be fair I've avoided it like the plague since it came up.

May 3, 2016 - 20:09

Evan Nelson

Politically its about 1/3 Trump supporters 1/3 Bernie supporters and 1/3 that either don't give a fuck about politics or are anarchists or libertarians.

May 3, 2016 - 20:12

Dylan Myers

It's almost like the media had something against GG and tried to paint them a certain way.

May 3, 2016 - 20:14

Hudson Martinez

I don't think Gamergay is full of Holla Forumslacks, just that it's been coopted by them and there's more than the amount that I would put up with.

This is why Gobblegrab was destined to fail, its members had vastly different objectives. Literally OWS 2.0.

May 3, 2016 - 20:50

Easton Walker

Ah,
the innocence of childhood.

May 3, 2016 - 20:58

Jack Perry

Who's more socdem, Bernie or Jill?

May 3, 2016 - 21:01

Ayden Campbell

Doesn't matter. They're both shit.

May 3, 2016 - 21:03

John Hall

the Donald is no shill tbh.

May 3, 2016 - 21:06

Easton Bennett

weew
Trump is a brand. He shills all the time, just for his empire.

May 3, 2016 - 21:11

Evan Bennett

here's the video of the portion I was talking about:
youtube.com/watch?v=CKqJt6v7S8U

May 3, 2016 - 21:19

Adam Richardson

...

May 3, 2016 - 21:21

Ryder Scott

I guess he was just…
Biden his time.

Christing Jesus Fuck, just end my pain.

May 3, 2016 - 21:30

Caleb Ward

Bernie would be old as dirt by then

May 3, 2016 - 21:44

Zachary Wilson

Plan B then.

May 3, 2016 - 21:50

Ryan Garcia

HAHAHA EVERYONE GO CHECK /r/enoughsandersspam RIGHT FUCKING NOW GO READ ALL THE SALT
reddit.com/r/enoughsandersspam/comments/4hs6ar/even_ted_zodiac_killer_cruz_has_the_common/
"Cruz was behind by effectively 1000 (Democratic scale, because Republicans have about half as many delegats as Dems) delegates and finally fucking dropped out and Bernie whose trailing by a quarter that much needs to drop out because I'm delusional enough to think Trump is competitive enough against a retarded pig to be scared of him!!!"

May 3, 2016 - 21:51

Carter Perez

Eh, it might not be Sanders, but it in that event, it could quite certainly be one of the army of socdems he'd helped bring into office.

May 3, 2016 - 21:51

Austin Fisher

AYYYYYY

May 3, 2016 - 21:53

Brandon Lee

Why do you browse that community? They are massive classcucks.

May 3, 2016 - 21:56

Ian Fisher

so realistically, how much will Indiana help Bernie?
Are there any updates from the commiefornia polls?

May 3, 2016 - 22:02

Aaron Martin

Latest poll has Clinton up 19 points.

Next most recent poll has her up by 2.

May 3, 2016 - 22:03

Elijah Gonzalez

Well, for laughs, now that they got mad and banned me.
Especially since we'll be winning everything here on out. Watch as they move the goalposts further and further. "He'll lose New Jersey! New Jersey is where his campaign ends!" Oh, I can relish it even now. In short, just watching them get angrier and angrier. They're already pretty fucking mad.

May 3, 2016 - 22:07

Thomas Thomas

What a surprise.

May 3, 2016 - 22:13

Lucas Peterson

So Holla Forums, you gonna vote for Jill Stein or Gary Johnson?
I personally find myself torn between the two.

May 3, 2016 - 22:14

Samuel Hill

What if Pennsylvania was the last state she won?

May 3, 2016 - 22:15

Dylan Wilson

Oh they'll be salty soon enough ;^)

I'd feel like I failed in PA

May 3, 2016 - 22:16

Josiah Miller

You got a source on that, buddy?

May 3, 2016 - 22:16

Cooper Ross

I'm gonna vote for Bernie Sanders and he's gonna win and we're gonna have FALC.

May 3, 2016 - 22:17

Gabriel Wood

more like Jew Stein and Hairy Johnson.
I'm voting for my chihuahua.

May 3, 2016 - 22:19

Nicholas Edwards

WTF would Holla Forums vote for Gary Johnson

May 3, 2016 - 22:21

Brandon Rivera

I don't follow. Are you agreeing with me that he'll win?

May 3, 2016 - 22:23

Joseph Young

Jill Stein might be too welfare state for some anarchists.
Also, he's such a stoner you can get a contact buzz from his body language. It would be a fun four years.

May 3, 2016 - 22:29

John Torres

What do you think of Humble Bundle these days? I just can't support them anymore after the shit they pulled.

May 3, 2016 - 22:29

Chase Long

Haven't bought anything from them since I argued with him on Twitter, and I got my Overgrowth refund. The guy fucking propped up Arthur Chu, for fuck's sake.

But yeah, it was that kind of compilation that I was featured on.

May 3, 2016 - 22:33

Caleb Jones

"CONDUCTOR WE HAVE A PROBLEM"
-Jill Stein

May 3, 2016 - 22:34

James Morris

Way to tip your hand

May 3, 2016 - 22:36

Liam King

It's from /k/, you Hillary shill

May 3, 2016 - 22:44

Matthew Brooks

...

May 3, 2016 - 22:44

William Bailey

Jill

May 3, 2016 - 22:45

Jordan Flores

Both anti-gg and gamergays are annoying as fuck and deserve to be sent to gulugs.

The only thing that gamergays really did achieve is dragging the annoying filth now known as "anti-gg" down into dirt with them.

May 3, 2016 - 22:53

Landon Phillips

Back to r/4chan with you.

May 3, 2016 - 22:53

Nathan Evans

I thought Arthur Chu changed his Nazi ways.

May 3, 2016 - 22:54

Camden Torres

>>>Holla Forums

May 3, 2016 - 22:57

Daniel Johnson

Yeah, you totally don't just buy whatever the media sells you.

May 3, 2016 - 22:58

Josiah Allen

He's right though.

May 3, 2016 - 22:58

Benjamin Murphy

...

May 3, 2016 - 23:13

Caleb Ortiz

Reddit doesn't seem to understand the concept of democracy

May 3, 2016 - 23:15

Joshua Carter

Way to out yourself, you mongoloid.

May 3, 2016 - 23:16

Gabriel Lee

Agent Smith did nothing wrong.

May 3, 2016 - 23:18

Thomas Gonzalez

👌

May 3, 2016 - 23:21

Charles Ortiz

>>>Holla Forums

May 3, 2016 - 23:21

Joshua Cruz

Spicy. Someone tweet dat shit.

May 3, 2016 - 23:24

David Bell

Indiana voter fraud:
thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/05/03/3774740/indiana-voting-issues/

Wonder how much he would have won by otherwise…?

May 3, 2016 - 23:26

Connor Green

ELECTION FRAUD
Voter fraud is when the voters cheat.

May 3, 2016 - 23:29

Kayden Gomez

Hush gamergay, no one is going to take away your toys.

May 3, 2016 - 23:30

William Roberts

...

May 3, 2016 - 23:30

Jason Peterson

This is really amusing, how can people in America consider themselves a democratic nation when stuff like this keeps happening?

May 3, 2016 - 23:32

Xavier Diaz

Meninism is a joke, famalam, and they provably were. See Australia's ban on GTAV over violence against women.

May 3, 2016 - 23:32

Nathaniel Torres

ignorance and disengagement

May 3, 2016 - 23:32

Christian Morales

I don't think it was a big deal this time. Notice that it's only some counties. All the counties they name are counties we took anyway.

May 3, 2016 - 23:45

Ian Mitchell

You're thinking of Iam Miles Chong.

May 3, 2016 - 23:50

Luis Martin

...

May 3, 2016 - 23:51

Nathan Clark

Okay seriously what the hell is the source of this? Been trying and failing to figure out the origin for ages now.

May 3, 2016 - 23:56

Josiah Murphy

When are adults going to be allowed to use adult language in this country?

May 4, 2016 - 00:00

Blake Sanders

I know man, shit's stupid.

May 4, 2016 - 00:04

Thomas Parker

Indeed

May 4, 2016 - 00:23

Lucas Cooper

Thought I'd share some classcuckery in action.

May 4, 2016 - 00:23

Sebastian Reed

Fuck the gulag, she needs to go up against a wall.

May 4, 2016 - 00:27

Julian James

Jimmies: The Rustling: The Video

I'm fucked up over this.

It's not that fucking hard to get a degree. What's this degree even in? Is it an associates? Bachelor's? Come on.

This lady wouldn't even miss whatever's coming out of her income to help pay for this guy and his kid's groceries anyway. It could literally go missing and she wouldn't even know it unless someone told her. Also lashing out at a guy for needing government assistance when he probably works for someone who pays him too little to take care of himself on his own. She can't even correctly figure out who to be mad at.

Also anyone else "gifted" here and get triggered when stupid people try to act like they're smarter than you? I ignore it, but it really grates on me.

May 4, 2016 - 00:36

Joshua Morales

I wish something like this would happen where I am

I need to go off on some deserving asshole

May 4, 2016 - 00:39

Brayden Cruz

The proper response whenever this sort of bitching about "muh paycheck" comes up is to point out that the only reason for any of this is because the upper income brackets won't pay their fucking fair share of taxes.

May 4, 2016 - 00:47

Parker Fisher

TBH I've gotten used to the Dunning-Kruger effect and I find it more bothersome when slightly above average people think they're hot shit because they're not idiots. They don't really have an excuse.

It was terrifying when I first started to realize how little most people understand of how the world runs, including people running it. Still is, to be honest.

May 4, 2016 - 00:50

Liam Gonzalez

They earned that money doggammit. You filthy commies are trying to steal those innovators' hard-earned money. Do you want to kill job creation and economic growth? Fuck off back to Russia if you want to live in a communist society. Actually, never mind - stay right here! Obummer has turned this beautiful land of the free into a steaming red pile of soviet filth! No wonder a jobless hippie like Sanders has won the feeble hearts of America's youth1 I weep for our future. It's like kids these days are flushing their heritage down the toilte!

May 4, 2016 - 00:55

Jaxson Barnes

Nah, is right. Statistically speaking, she probably has to pay for his food stamps purely because his employer is leeching off society instead of paying a living wage. Taxes shouldn't even be part of the picture.

May 4, 2016 - 00:57

Asher Richardson

Tell her I'm 16 and I've accomplished more than she ever will.
Fucking shit.

May 4, 2016 - 00:57

James Martin

Good point, it's a combination of both really.

May 4, 2016 - 01:03

Brayden Reed

I'm so glad Bernie is talking about this shit. Last night he called out the Walton family by name again, and how Walmart associates need to be on fucking food stamps.

May 4, 2016 - 01:04

Carter Powell

I'm lucky enough to be fairly insulated, but yeah, giving it some more thought, those people are probably the worst and this lady seems to be one of them since she must live somewhere where having a degree is unusual enough to mean you must have above average intelligence. That's not necessarily true, but that's the culture of her area.

I'm 18 and of course I don't have a whole lot of experience with, you know, actual adults, but I will say this election cycle has been quite the coming of age experience for me. Shit's fucked in more ways than I ever thought was possible, and so few people actually know it. I used to be one of those people, but now I don't know how to reach out to them. What's worse is I know there's still a ton more to learn. I'll reach that level one of these days.

May 4, 2016 - 01:15

Andrew Butler

I live in the heart of the deep south. Please take me, fellow citizen.

May 4, 2016 - 01:26

Nicholas Richardson

Because Americans have no idea what democracy is, how it works, or even come close to understanding the concepts of personal liberty.

May 4, 2016 - 01:27

Samuel Smith

I'm 23. Shit got so much worse when I went to college. It was shocking how little almost anyone cared about what they were doing there. Faculty, staff, and students. They mostly were just going through the motions. And I went to a good STEM school, too. Even if most of the students and professors weren't brilliant they had some kind of talent, but it all seemed to go to such waste plugging along as mere cogs in the machine.

May 4, 2016 - 01:36

Isaac Diaz

Unpopular opinion-
All "small" schools are TTTs or peddling ideological religion, almost always both.
All "Ivy League" privates are bougie.
If you don't go to a state school then tbh fam smh

May 4, 2016 - 01:47

David Parker

It's Limmy's Show.

Fucking love Limmy.

youtube.com/watch?v=9ypaXNVPkSg

May 4, 2016 - 01:59

Christopher Reyes

Lmao, it's been a while

May 4, 2016 - 02:14

Brody Brown

Exactly. Which means that counties that supported Sanders were targeted, so we would have won by a wider margin if it hadn't been for the suppression.

May 4, 2016 - 02:36

Ryan Ramirez

Hey, I was on the threads, too, I made almost every animu webm that gets posted around there.
But the GG threads nowadays are not the 2014 threads.

May 4, 2016 - 02:45

Easton Clark

...

May 4, 2016 - 02:59

Ethan Rodriguez

One of the main reasons these people get so upset & lash out at those who don't deserve it, is because they're jealous that they aren't getting some help. Another is that they think people who receive help are "undeserving" because they're lazy. I know, because I used to think a little like them, having grown up in the South. It's easy to buy into, because it's a lazy way of thinking for those who don't have much time(since most are working constantly); an extremely lazy explanation of why the economy & work is suffering.

A cousin of mine(who actually happens to be extremely sweet & kind), even shares those bogus videos. Not the one here, but ones of overweight, rude, (& more often than not, black), and ignorant foodstamp recipients who happen to be acting a fool in a store. I've seen memes with pictures of people buying unhealthy food, cigarettes(in some places I guess they still allow it) in bulk, and "pointing out" how these people are somehow "gaming the system", just get to get goodies for themselves. You all remember that meme, "Oh, you get foodstamps, but also have an iPhone?!?". I saw that one the most, I think.

The most outrageous thing about these people who believe this is, they more often than not claim to be "strong Christians". Every value they pride themselves on in being Republican is a way of cutting down or belittling someone. No heart at all.

It's really insane to me. I grew up around these people; have many in my family. Even when I was younger, uneducated & poor, I started to buy into it. I actually watched Glenn Beck when he first got his show on HLN. I'm ashamed to admit that one.. But once I saw the "Tea Party Express" FOX bus tour, I knew it had been corrupted; that it wasn't what it claimed to be. I was young & dumb, but I wasn't that dumb.

Most of them recognize there's corruption in government. They just need to have it explained to them how far gone it really is. How it's the corporations & 1% who actually get the welfare. That some billionaires were the ones behind he Tea Party & Libertarian rising we saw in the media. They need to have it explained to them that these "free markets" only benefit the 1%, that it takes our jobs & gives them to immigrants/foreigners who are then exploited insanely. Also that most on welfare actually do work, and work hard. Try to get the anger out of the equation so they can think more rationally. Not all of these people are lost causes who don't want to learn, most just simply have no idea as to how the country & politics really works. Most are working 24/7, stressed & don't know about any other news outlets than the mainstream, which is where they get all these nonsense talking points & believe them.

I know I'm repeating what most here already know, but I hope it helps for someone wanting to engage these people. I also just woke up, so forgive me if this post is all over the place

May 4, 2016 - 03:10

Dylan Long

i mean formally it wasn't meant to have a specific political tendency, but it was dominated, or at least hijacked, by "gultural margzism :DDD" types

take one fucking look at /r/KiA

May 4, 2016 - 03:15

Isaac Howard

hah, was waiting for such reports
Indiana seemed suspiciously calm

I bet California will be disastrous

May 4, 2016 - 03:46

Ryan Adams

based
Never though I'd live through times when in the US thousands cheer against the ruling class.

May 4, 2016 - 03:49

Asher Hall

Democratic Establishment May Anoint Joe Biden If Hillary Is Indicted

May 4, 2016 - 03:51

Brody Diaz

Some people just can't figure it out.
I grew up poorer than those around me, and I already know what it's like to get shit all over by the rest of society for one of many symptoms of being poor. I don't personally want food stamps and government assistance, I think it's bullshit that anyone would have to depend on anyone else and I think that work is, or rather ought to be, rewarding.
When we weaken unions, teach kids to abstain from sex rather than teach them about contraception in public schools, keep minimum wage low and then let the ruling class get away with whatever they want to do because of this illusion of hard work, we're living in an increasingly violent class war.
I hate poor people who have kids and people who can't budget, but I'm not so stupid to go around blaming the poor for everything wrong in the world. At the end of the day, if the rich want to kill or torture some people to fight over resources, I'm gonna be just as much of a victim as these other people. I'd just rather kill some porks than someone living in the same thinly veiled already existing FEMA camp as me.

May 4, 2016 - 04:12

Oliver Gonzalez

I wish they would. I fucking wish they would.

May 4, 2016 - 04:15

Christian Jackson

that would certainly escalate things

May 4, 2016 - 04:53

Colton Sanchez

youtube.com/watch?v=V9CsZpAeV1E

"FULL SPEECH: Bernie Sanders Speaks at The National Press Club in Washington, D.C (5-1-16)"

Bernie lays out his arguments & strong points for being the DNC nominee. Do watch, it's great.

May 4, 2016 - 05:16

Jason Jones

8:15 he talks about delegate math. A very important part of the speech.

May 4, 2016 - 05:19

James Thomas

Short report on the labor conditions in Haiti. Long live Hillary!
youtube.com/watch?v=JIRAC8LMkRs

May 4, 2016 - 05:21

Hunter Torres

Late stage capitalist grotesque.

May 4, 2016 - 05:26

Mason James

Wew,
It's amazing you found your way out of all that.

May 4, 2016 - 05:30

Parker Brown

cheers, comrade

May 4, 2016 - 05:32

Daniel Collins

This need to be capped. It will be usefull for anyone has on of those encounters.

May 4, 2016 - 06:05

Isaac Ward

Thanks. I didn't have any help, that's for sure. Just being very curious about why things are the way they are. My parents were Democrats(still are), but the rest of the family is Republican. I'd say online access is the main thing that did help, though. Believe it or not, there's still a sizable amount of the population in the US who don't have good access to it. I got a smart phone for the first time two years ago(father's old one), but could only afford to activate it through help from my fiance. (Even though I was working a full time, good job!) It's outrageous the amount you have to pay to activate & keep it going, especially compared to the wages that are generally made.

Cheers :)

May 4, 2016 - 06:09

Lucas Thompson

That would be my first screencap, and I'd be honored. :)

May 4, 2016 - 06:16

Isaac Torres

Spot fucking on. We suffer in the South together.

May 4, 2016 - 07:11

Brayden Sullivan

...

May 4, 2016 - 07:19

Leo Robinson

why she wears the masck
youtu.be/JIRAC8LMkRs?t=404

May 4, 2016 - 07:19

Christopher White

Just because a post is long and rambling does not mean it's insightful.

May 4, 2016 - 07:20

Logan Reed

Hey.. go away

May 4, 2016 - 07:28

Mason Martinez

>>>Holla Forums

May 4, 2016 - 07:30

Gabriel Baker

Cool :)
And the filename is apt.

May 4, 2016 - 07:31

Brody Johnson

Just because a book is long and rambling does not mean it's insightful.

May 4, 2016 - 08:18

Nathan Moore

I just don't see this happening. Delegates aren't paid-off shills like superdelegates; each of them would have to be somehow convinced to do this personally.

May 4, 2016 - 08:33

Cameron Collins

not if your private porky party makes rules as they see fit

May 4, 2016 - 08:47

Isaiah Wright

Well according to all the state and national committee bylaws I've read, you can't change the rules until the conventions.

May 4, 2016 - 09:00

Josiah Powell

Anyone else notice how often Sanders refers to himself in the third person? I hope they don't try to use that against him at some point.

May 4, 2016 - 09:05

Jaxon Sullivan

He does?

May 4, 2016 - 09:07

Logan Collins

60's meme technology.

May 4, 2016 - 09:21

Brandon Russell

...

May 4, 2016 - 09:39

Joshua Jenkins

what are you saying?

May 4, 2016 - 09:39

Nolan Gomez

Wow, John Kasich dropped out

May 4, 2016 - 09:40

Matthew Nguyen

...

May 4, 2016 - 09:43

Carter Davis

Kasich fucking dropped out…. Trump is the GOP nominee. What the fuck.

May 4, 2016 - 09:50

Nathan Gutierrez

That's alright.
Ohio really missed him.
We love you John Kasich!

May 4, 2016 - 09:51

Joseph Adams

youtube.com/watch?v=oIscL-Bjsq4

May 4, 2016 - 09:52

Brandon Foster

Trump will make Instrumentality real.

May 4, 2016 - 09:54

Jackson Hughes

Trump is Third Impact.

May 4, 2016 - 09:55

Landon Cooper

5 Reasons Bernie Sanders Wins Big With Cruz (and Kasich) Dropout

1. News coverage for the Democratic primary, and thus Bernie Sanders, will increase exponentially — immediately.
2. Sanders will pick up a huge number of what would otherwise be Trump votes in states where voters are still able to register for upcoming Democratic primaries, or are able to cross over and vote in the Democratic primary due to being a registered independent.
3. Clinton will have to start spending a great deal of money to fight a two-front war against Donald Trump, who’ll begin his ultra-negative primary campaign against Clinton immediately, and Bernie Sanders, who will avoid attacking Clinton directly but has nevertheless vowed to take the Democratic primary to the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia.
4. Sanders now has a greatly increased chance of winning all of the remaining Democratic primaries and caucuses.
5. The Democrats will have a contested convention, and the Republicans won’t.

huffingtonpost.com/seth-abramson/5-reasons-bernie-sanders-wins-big-with-cruz-dropout_b_9834348.html

May 4, 2016 - 10:18

Jaxson Sanders

Hearing on election fraud and disenfranchisement:

New York City Board of Elections Public Testimony - 5/3/2016:
youtube.com/watch?v=K5S1penT9Nc

I just started watching now, but people are commenting that it gets heated. I'm guessing like the Arizona hearing, but maybe louder, since they're New Yorkers, lol. Not to make light, though, because this is very serious business.

reddit.com/r/politics/comments/4hubv8/new_yorkers_unleash_rage_over_alleged_primary/

May 4, 2016 - 10:24

Hunter Hill

But why would Kasich drop out?

He's the one the establishment delegates will rally behind.

He's the one they'll cuck Trump with.

May 4, 2016 - 10:26

Evan Young

>youtube.com/watch?v=K5S1penT9Nc
starts off great already

May 4, 2016 - 10:26

Jayden Gutierrez

I don't think they plan to cuck Trump out of the nomination now, they aim to contain and wrangle him into a more palatable candidate.

May 4, 2016 - 10:27

Jack Wilson

HOLY SHIT NEVER MIND HE ACTUALLY DROPPED

May 4, 2016 - 10:27

Luis Wilson

That sounds like something that could backfire really quick.
Basically they plan on being the sleazy Grand Vizier to the insane infant sultan?

May 4, 2016 - 10:29

Isaiah Stewart

Basically they plan on being the Cheney to the Bush

May 4, 2016 - 10:30

Aiden Ward

Precisely.

May 4, 2016 - 10:30

Connor Harris

It's probably going to work, unfortunately.

Trump already has most of the kosher GOP positions (aside from banning muslim immigration and deporting illegals). They just aren't positive they own him so they're scared.

May 4, 2016 - 10:31

Charles Cooper

Despite what the media machine would have you believe, the Obomber presidency has deported millions, that in spite of illegal immigration being below net zero.

May 4, 2016 - 10:34

Owen Lewis

White gen0cide is the #1 priority of all politicians. Obama's "deportation of illegals" is just capture and release (IN THE US), they don't actually get sent back to their home countries.

May 4, 2016 - 10:37

Wyatt Gutierrez

Whether they're deported back to their countries entirely, illegal immigration is still naturally below net zero, meaning that more illegal immigrants are leaving the US than new illegals coming in.

It is a problem that is in the middle of solving itself.

May 4, 2016 - 10:39

Kayden Perez

Illegal immigration is a red herring used by politicians anyway.

The real problem is legal immigration. 1 million nonwhites flood into the US every year, but not a single person talks about that. That's because it was a planned shift of focus to the "illegals" and shifting the argument to whether they should stay or vote or whatever.

May 4, 2016 - 10:44

John Evans

...

May 4, 2016 - 10:45

Connor Martin

burden of proof

May 4, 2016 - 10:45

Jose Long

There's some hardcore delusion on that article.

May 4, 2016 - 10:50

Jaxson Ward

Y-You're serious?

May 4, 2016 - 10:50

Brandon Ross

This is probably going to sound like a shill, but I promise you it's not.

Is hillary really all that bad? I've read somewhere that she shares like 90% of her policies with bernie.

Are we just delusional or flat out wrong about her? Do we want to hate her so we take everything possible and turn it into dislike? Are those 400+ super delegate endorsements smarter than us? Think about it, all we do is sit around on an imageboard and armchair politic.

idk, for the record the only thing I really know for sure is that I don't really trust her, she seems to either lie or distort the truth too much.

May 4, 2016 - 10:59

Nolan Hall

Did you seriously fall for the meme that she actually holds those positions and didn't merely adopt them because Bernie was becoming a threat?

May 4, 2016 - 11:02

Michael Scott

no I first saw it last year in like june or something.

May 4, 2016 - 11:03

Evan Miller

Her policies aren't that bad that it's totally not worth voting for. She wants to raise the minimum wage to $12, have college expenses paid for if they work 10 hours a week, etc.

Compare her tax plan to Obama's and Bernie's, it's basically improved Obama.

I will probably vote for her, begrudgingly, if she's the nominee, just because her policies will help the poor more than anything Trump would offer.

May 4, 2016 - 11:04

Gavin Taylor

youtube.com/watch?v=PV_PLCC6jeI

There's another thing to consider, there's a crash coming up soon, and whoever pres will be blamed. Will this be blamed on neoliberalism finally, or with they point the finger to anything resembling anything leftward?

May 4, 2016 - 11:08

Cooper Sanders

As I said earlier in the thread, the "negative net illegal immigration" meme is extremely misleading. Leaving aside the fact that emigration isn't actually tracked (such suppositions are made using resident demographics, meaning deaths or evasiveness could account for it just as well as emigration), that was just a brief hiccup at the deepest nadir of the recession, and mostly effected Mexican migration. For what it's worth, during 2014 the CIA World Factbook offers a net migration rate of +2.45/1000, while the Census Bureau's gross migration rate for the same period is 4.07/1000.

Absolutely true, don't forget the colossal number of descendants of recent immigrants, nonresident temporary guest workers, just-over-the-border Maquiladora, and crossborder commuters.

May 4, 2016 - 11:11

Ethan Parker

He was really just in it for the free food tbh fam

May 4, 2016 - 11:20

Logan Hernandez

Trump's 0% tax on everyone earning below $25,000 and 10% on everyone earning $25-50k is probably more relevant to the average working class family than anything else in politics, other than living in a safe neighborhood where they don't have to worry about their livelihood. My father hasn't voted in years, he's pro Trump to the point where he makes Holla Forums look like Cruz supporters, and it's all based on this one fact - people like him are squeezed on all sides already, squeezed by his employer, squeezed by bureaucrats, squeezed by utility bills, ripped off by every sector of our society that has their hand in the working class's pocket. He doesn't want to pay for free college for everybody and, frankly, I don't blame him. Until the working class is taken care of first, there's no reason they need to be paying for anything right now while the elites are hording everything.

In a perfect world we'll get everything, free education, free medicine, workers having a share in the profits of their labor, etc. We know we're not getting that this election, and I think the priorities of what many on the left do claim to want, free college seems to the big one, is so completely out of touch with the current needs of the actual working class, will burden the working class (because we both know neither Hillary nor Trump is going after the billionaires they wine and dine with to get that money) and is much more beneficial to well off college students who are often from muh privileged families that all the structural and capital advantages in society that allowed them to pursue an education at a $30,000 a year institution in the first place.

May 4, 2016 - 11:24

James Murphy

A man after my own heart

May 4, 2016 - 11:29

Alexander Ward

Get this shitty ideology out of here.

May 4, 2016 - 11:30

Evan Smith

...

May 4, 2016 - 11:30

Jose Flores

you're missing one thing: Hillary is a fucking liar. she is actually against all of the good things she's promising.

May 4, 2016 - 11:30

Joseph Bennett

She's a criminal, liar, and a murderer. That's all I need.

May 4, 2016 - 11:32

Juan Bailey

Trump, Sanders win primary contests in Indiana
wsws.org/en/articles/2016/05/04/indi-m04.html

By Patrick Martin
4 May 2016

May 4, 2016 - 11:50

Wyatt Brooks

...

May 4, 2016 - 11:51

Justin Lopez

The Republican race being over this soon does nothing but help Bernie, and the DNC attacks for party unity only add fuel to the fire. No more talk of RNC division, it's all about the Dems. The upset in Indiana was the first sign. Bernie needed a boost, and this was it.

…whispers of a dream…

May 4, 2016 - 11:55

Owen Roberts

#DropOutHillary is currently trending #4 on Twitter and rising :))

May 4, 2016 - 11:57

Cameron Johnson

This is pretty great the whole way through, more people need to see this. Looks like the exact same fucking bullshit that happened in Arizona went down in New York.

May 4, 2016 - 12:01

Carson Price

The problem is she's a gigantic liar with a history of supporting corporate interests over workers'. So yeah, she is all that bad.

May 4, 2016 - 12:04

Lincoln Stewart

Are you really not understanding how free college works? It works directly to counteract the privelege you're referring to by enabling those not so well off to get an education.

May 4, 2016 - 12:11

Hudson Smith

Maybe you should remove your Nazi flag and replace it with a burgerbux flag?

May 4, 2016 - 12:15

Michael Davis

Her policies would most likely be the continuation of Obama's, which are better for the poor than what the GOP is offering.

May 4, 2016 - 12:19

Eli Sullivan

People need to understand that the reason federal taxes, especially income taxes, are always at the center of tax cut debates, is because they're practically the only form of taxation that impacts the rich (not to mention the way FICA is lumped into many income tax comparisons, in spite of it being more of a compulsory savings program than a real tax. Sadly, even my pics have that problem).

Similarly, ad-valorum taxes like sales and property taxes, which hit working class consumers like a ton of bricks, but leave the wealthy practically untouched, are never attacked. On top of that, goofballs are regularly allowed to float retarded ideas, like giving the federal government European-style VATs. Question for yuropoors: Why do you morons let this continue? Unlike the vilified federal government, largely ignored state and local governments are almost totally reliant on these absurdly regressive ad-valorum taxes for revenue:
usgovernmentrevenue.com/revenue_history

Not that the underlying ideology of "why should I (collectively) pay for necessities?" is in any way correct, but the specific example of higher education is increasingly dubious. Instead of a surefire job (or at least career boost), it's turned into a way of wasting 2-8 years of your life in return for the chance to try and get some nepotistic professional contacts and a square of toilet paper statistically unlikely to bear any relation to your eventual form of employment.

Higher ed needs a titanic overhaul: Immediate paid apprenticeship in at least one real profession for all taxpayer-funded students, employment/pay prospect accountability requirements for all taxpayer-subsidized majors to meet RoI quotas or be denied funding, deemphasis of academia in favor of businesses being required to train their own recruits depending on labor market conditions, etc… Student loan debt barely scratches the surface.

May 4, 2016 - 12:34

Jaxon Cox

was meant for

May 4, 2016 - 12:35

Colton Ward

Remember now, don't use naughty words in front of the election board or a public servant might remove your mic and turn the camera away before escorting you out of the room.

What if there are impressionable children on the board?

May 4, 2016 - 13:03

Luke Jones

hah, was just about to webm that too

May 4, 2016 - 13:04

Carson Howard

The DNC are killing themselves for Hillary.

May 4, 2016 - 13:16

Gavin Anderson

I love every minute of it

May 4, 2016 - 13:20

Colton Brooks

So I hear things are about to heat up in Burger Town now, with the race being between Satan and the Antichrist!

[spoiler]Good luck, guys.[spoiler]

Is that marzipan?

May 4, 2016 - 13:51

Carson Taylor

yes, marzipan dipped in anus, to be more specific

May 4, 2016 - 13:53

Andrew Rivera

I assume you mean anise.

May 4, 2016 - 13:59

Zachary Rogers

Anise, anuse, does it matter?!

May 4, 2016 - 14:00

Mason Sanchez

the democrat party really needs to be cleaned up

May 4, 2016 - 14:10

Ian Gomez

It's unsalvageable.

May 4, 2016 - 14:12

Jeremiah Williams

...

May 4, 2016 - 14:12

Anthony Gomez

I think you meant to write "cleansed".

May 4, 2016 - 14:14

Benjamin Robinson

purged

May 4, 2016 - 14:15

Isaiah Green

I think you meant to write 'purged'.

May 4, 2016 - 14:15

Sebastian Parker

Any Indictment news comrades?

May 4, 2016 - 14:32

Brody Wright

The feds will give new meaning to "too big to fail".

May 4, 2016 - 14:45

Parker Moore

if the majority of the younger voters who support sanders continue an interest in politics and the affairs of the democratic party, there is a chance

May 4, 2016 - 14:49

Samuel Adams

You can't reform bourg parties into rev parties.

May 4, 2016 - 14:52

Evan Harris

How about instead of trying to salvage a bourgie party the energy goes into a new party?

May 4, 2016 - 14:54

Jordan Perez

That's an option as well.

May 4, 2016 - 14:55

Ian Perez

Let me guess, the SEP?

May 4, 2016 - 14:56

Jonathan Miller

What part of the word "new" was difficult for you?

May 4, 2016 - 14:57

Carson Young

REEEEE FUCKING TROTSKIES GET OUTTTT

Castrated bougies can't do anything bad.

May 4, 2016 - 14:59

Owen Carter

The part where you thought you can conjure an enthusiastic mass movement out of nowhere.

May 4, 2016 - 15:03

Connor Davis

Where have you been the past year?

May 4, 2016 - 15:05

Juan Walker

...

May 4, 2016 - 15:05

Connor Powell

Hey what party do most of his supports align with?

May 4, 2016 - 15:09

David Turner

...

May 4, 2016 - 15:09

Colton Hall

Probably independent at this point tbh. There are a lot of states where you have to register as a democrap to vote for him, and that party is currently committing sudoku.

May 4, 2016 - 15:12

Easton Brown

That's a fair point. More and more people are getting disillusioned with the Democrat party and with the two-party system in general.

May 4, 2016 - 15:13

Justin Martin

Unfortunately that can't be fixed unless we replace first past the post voting with a system that doesn't have the spoiler effect. My pick would be approval voting: easy to understand, easy to count, and goes right to the heart of the issue - "would you be OK with this person as president?" Too bad you have to do a lot of explaining to get people to understand that the two-party system is a symptom.

May 4, 2016 - 15:20

Logan Thompson

Third party electoral politics is a dead-end in America. The real parties are the ones with mass support, which are currently subsumed in the D/R blobs:

May 4, 2016 - 15:23

Jacob Evans

Stick a neo- on the liberal and conservative ones.

May 4, 2016 - 15:30

Noah Myers

Holla Forums here

A third party will never have a real shot in the US because of our first past the post electoral system. The Democrats and Republicans have basically become coalitions of various Left or Right factions. If you run third party you basically split the vote of your own coalition.

What you nerds would do if you wanted real power is join the Democratic Party and work to get involved with it, presenting yourselves as Sanders-tier socialists. Either you could get a sizable faction of the Democrats to proclaim themselves as Socialists and influence the progamme, or get enough support to split off from the party.

I'm a Republican Party commissioner in my county.

May 4, 2016 - 15:31

Bentley Robinson

Meh.
Honestly revitalizing local politics and the right for state and municipalities to self-manage democratically is a lot more important than getting a SocDem to become president.

Going for congress might not be a bad idea either.

May 4, 2016 - 15:33

Juan Johnson

We'd do better to build a party to take advantage of all the disillusioned independents and pull Democrats over to us while their party collapses.

I really hope Bernie starts encouraging people to get involved locally. The revolution (peaceful or violent) has to be bottom-up to work. Congress is also a good strategy. Bernie managed to get some good work done there. So could more people like him.

May 4, 2016 - 15:36

Logan Price

I've always used a slightly different model.
>Socialists- Bernie+ True Pure Form
Then there's Holla Forums and Holla Forums type groups but I wouldn't say those are big enough to hold up a party.

I can guarantee it that one of the first things Bernie would get to work on is FPTP. Then, the parties can split up into the above.

May 4, 2016 - 15:44

Isaac Diaz

Local politics are party politics too. Local institutions are tied up within the parties. In major cities which have basically become one-party Democratic states (think Detroit or DC, Republicans don't even bother to run), the social institutions of the community are usually unofficially affiliated to the party i.e black churches.

Their party isn't collapsing. The minority bloc and globalists can hold the Democratic party together just fine. White workers and millenials have become largely dissilutioned, and some of the fringe of the minority bloc has insisted the party doesn't go far enough to cater to them, but that's not enough to destroy the party. If anything, white industrial workers might go to Trump, but that's about it.

There are like 20 communist parties in America you can join to "build" a new party, but most of them are dogshit. The only ones with any power or influence are the ones agitating nonwhites based on race issues, i.e the Party for Socialism and Liberation.

Any new party is granted a lot more legitimacy if it takes some of the infrastructure of the established parties. You probably won't be able to get it to go FULL COMMUNISM but you could get policies implemented you think are pro-worker.

May 4, 2016 - 15:46

Nicholas Cook

kill yourself tripfag

May 4, 2016 - 15:47

Josiah Wright

Your factions are dumb and your shits all retarded.

You'd have to amend the Constitution to do that. Good luck.

May 4, 2016 - 15:47

Elijah Ward

Isn't that the guy who started #BernieSoBlack?

I know Dr. Cornel West called Obama a "Rockefeller Republican in blackface" and honestly, I think he's onto something. Clinton and the rest of the establishment have been doing their damnedest to make this primary into a referendum on Obama as a way to court the black vote. I think Bernie would be faring at least a bit better were he running against a slate of white guys.

May 4, 2016 - 16:02

Chase Kelly

am i still banned.

if not, lol trump won

May 4, 2016 - 16:03

Justin Robinson

...

May 4, 2016 - 16:05

Isaac Rivera

Duly noted. We appreciate the input.
t. Lares

May 4, 2016 - 16:12

Zachary Hill

Lefty pol needs to build a totally rad subversive alt left like pol did with the alt right.
Something that shits on sjws and idpol and promotes true leftism™
Pol was able to defeat the neocons with ebin meme's and calling them cucks….
leftypol runs around in circles wondering why blacks dont vote for bernie, i mean come on,, pwees vote.

If trump has taught me anything its that people respect confidence no matter what crazy shit you say, you guys have to embrace being commies publicly, have to start the movement, create videos and meme's making fund of idpol from a left perspective, create an altleft community

May 4, 2016 - 16:27

Isaac Price

oh and another thing ive noticed from an outside perspective, all you fuckers do is fight each other.
There is a thread about why anarchy wont work right now.
The alt right has fucking monarchists in it who think the french revolution was the worst thing to happen to the west and we get along better.

May 4, 2016 - 16:49

Colton Nguyen

That's because Holla Forums has forgotten how to disagree with someone without shouting "shill" and banning them.

May 4, 2016 - 16:51

Easton Moore

Has it still not occurred to you? The fighting is a good thing. It's what makes this board a chan community. It keeps discussion in check by constantly questioning and belittling everything so nobody circlejerks.

The "alt right" is full of agreement because they do not care about the pursuit of ideas. Finding truth in philosophy is like finding it in science, it takes rigor, discipline. Instead, they are occupied with fighting imaginary enemies.

May 4, 2016 - 16:59

Jacob Sanders

Pol are motely crue of far right groups pushed to the edge by the jew oligarchy destroying the west, we have our differences but times are tough and we work together to fight.
And now trump is the nominee, there are lots of alt right twitter, youtube
The neocohens like bill krystol and ben shapiro are licking their wounds.

this is why lefty pol will never win

also why cant i post videos, man you guys do suck

May 4, 2016 - 17:01

Lucas Johnson

Win what, exactly?

May 4, 2016 - 17:02

Jaxson Diaz

corporations, idpol, sjws, political enemies within and without, you guys are too beta

May 4, 2016 - 17:09

Matthew Powell

Sentences. Can you form them, nigger?

May 4, 2016 - 17:10

Tyler Parker

Nah, that works with conservatives but not liberals. There's a study of political psychology and "lefties" and righties respond to different things.

May 4, 2016 - 17:12

John Mitchell

And yet so far you have been unable to defeat us. In fact we've grown stronger.

It's like when righties shit-talk the Soviet Union and Marxism-Leninism, except even worse. If we're so weak, what does that say about YOU?

May 4, 2016 - 17:15

Ryder Foster

Have you read the word of Frederick Nitsche?
About how he who fights monsters, should be carefull not to become a monster?

Can you not see how, by using the tools of the enemy, you become the enemy? How pol has become IDpol? How IDpol creates more pol?

If to win, one needs to stop being oneself, then to hell with wining!

May 4, 2016 - 17:15

Grayson Gomez

is hillary going to be indicted or are we going to lose?

May 4, 2016 - 17:16

Jaxson Martinez

Nah. It's just creating a mindless mob of zombies, saying "make 'murica great" or "check your privilage".

May 4, 2016 - 17:16

Sebastian Moore

Also this.

May 4, 2016 - 17:17

Bentley Kelly

I dont really care what you fuckers do, im just telling you why you are beta cucks losing on all fronts and why shillary is winning.
Trump had both the righting and leftwing media screaming REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HES HITLER for like 8 months and he still won.

You guys go on being proud of being losers then

May 4, 2016 - 17:19

Ryan Rodriguez

beautiful, comrade

May 4, 2016 - 17:19

Jace Ortiz

...

May 4, 2016 - 17:19

John Martinez

Sorry what did loose again?

Oh… you think politics is like a sports game where the trophy gets passed back and forth once every four year.

I guess that kind of explains enough about your positions

May 4, 2016 - 17:20

Matthew Gomez

pol has always been idpol, just a different kind than sjws

May 4, 2016 - 17:21

Chase Martin

Nigga that's why he won. He got tons of free exposure and was painted as the underdog. Bernie got ignored.

May 4, 2016 - 17:21

Jaxson Ward

No, they see it like a video game.

May 4, 2016 - 17:22

Adrian Reed

KEK!

May 4, 2016 - 17:22

Connor Mitchell

now ain't that some shit.

May 4, 2016 - 17:27

David Hernandez

Though, in Warcraft, Orcs became violent invaders, cause their world was invaded. .. .. Are warcraft orcs middle easterns invaded by US?

May 4, 2016 - 17:27

Chase Jenkins

Honestly though, the ONE thing uniting this whole board is it's hatred of capitalism. You'd think you would have your priorities straights.

And these are all mostly byproducts of that system. Isn't leftism about uniting anyway? I mean, I love that this board isn't a torture chamber-echochamber-safespaceTM, but sometimes yall need to activism.

May 4, 2016 - 17:34

Ayden Jenkins

youtube.com/watch?v=zmI-hGthrwA
it made me reflect on the human condition more than anything.
btw, it was a nigger with a gun, I have no doubt in my heart that guy could've been a Holla Forumsyp

May 4, 2016 - 17:42

Camden Johnson

Lemme guess.
You also believe in gultural margxism XD XD?

May 4, 2016 - 17:46

Jayden Price

you do know that coverage like that is almost always good for a candidate right?

May 4, 2016 - 18:20

Landon Russell

What is wrong with this terminology? idpolers take Marx's idea of class and apply it to race, sex, etc. Then they use that analysis to push cultural changes.

May 4, 2016 - 18:40

Josiah Anderson

counterpunch.org/2016/05/04/its-not-about-bernie-why-we-cant-let-our-revolution-die-in-philadelphia/
It’s Not About Bernie: Why We Can’t Let Our Revolution Die in Philadelphia
Based Sawant on the revolution after moving forward.

May 4, 2016 - 18:42

Sebastian Scott

...

May 4, 2016 - 18:44

Cameron Williams

How is anything I said incorrect?

May 4, 2016 - 18:46

Elijah Brown

You could actually try and, you know, debunking it to BTFO pol, you guys.

May 4, 2016 - 18:46

Benjamin Williams

anyone who genuinely believes in cultural marxism is too far gone.

May 4, 2016 - 18:47

Luke Wright

Explain it to me, since you're making the claim.

May 4, 2016 - 18:51

Brayden Cook

What even is cultural marxism then? I better steer clear of it because if I accidentally believe it I'll be too far gone.

May 4, 2016 - 18:51

Eli Johnson

Cultural marxism, a critique of the cultural state is the West, in which opportunities and resources are taken disproportionately by muh privileged individuals, designated by their demographics.

May 4, 2016 - 18:54

James Gray

spooks
spooks
spooks

All you've done is rearrange words to make it similar to the basic premise of what I've described as Marxism. There's nothing even remotely similar. Rather, the lines of thinking are in complete contradiction.

Culture, opportunities, resources, demographics. These things are all decided by the material conditions of capitalism. To "apply Marxism" to these things is hogwash, as it fails basic base/superstructure theory and ignores the most fundamental aspects of Marxism in the first place.

In other words, it takes more to be considered an adoption of "Marxist" principles than to fucking critique hierarchy. Otherwise, you'd be Marxist for being anti-monarchist, or anti-slavery.

May 4, 2016 - 19:10

Chase Green

jacobinmag.com/2016/05/trump-clinton-mcgovern-gop-primary-nixon/
From Nixon to Clinton

May 4, 2016 - 19:23

Connor Thomas

So it fails to be Marxism. Marx himself distanced himself from Marxists because they diverged from his ideas. People still do what I described. Pointing out that people believe in spooks doesn't mean the beliefs don't exist and people don't act on them.

May 4, 2016 - 19:28

Benjamin Reyes

Important article:
>If Bernie’s only concern is that running independently could open the door to a President Trump, then why could he not at least campaign in the 40+ states where it’s generally clear the Democratic or Republican candidate will win? Even in this way, while not putting his name on the ballot in the 5-10 closely contested “swing states,” he could still run an historic campaign if linked to building a new party. It could lay the foundation for an ongoing mass political movement to run hundreds of left candidates for all levels of government, independent of corporate cash. He wouldn’t need to win this election to effect a sustained leftward shift in US politics.

May 4, 2016 - 19:28

Henry Campbell

Yes. Hence "cultural Marxism" is completely wrong, as if the fact that it's an oxymoron of a statement in the first place wasn't bad enough.
Which does nothing to change the fact that it still isn't Marxism, it just means Marx didn't refer to himself as a Marxist. Now, if the idpolers were adhering more to his words than the self-proclaimed Marxists, you'd have a point. However, there is zero overlap. I say again, the only similarity here is that they are critical of some form of hierarchy, which is not exclusive to Marxism in any way.

May 4, 2016 - 19:33

Benjamin Richardson

These people will call themselves marxists. They will say they apply Marx's theories to sex/race/whatever. Gee why do right wingers call these guys marxists? Hmm.

May 4, 2016 - 19:46

Jayden Martinez

Don't you understand that you are saying something as idiotic as "applying biology to Vonnegut?"

May 4, 2016 - 19:48

Oliver Harris

Yeah, but I'm not the one claiming that I'm analyzing race through a marxist lens. I'm reporting that other people say they are, and that "cultural marxism" refers to them. It doesn't have to be a completely serious term. It can be ironic like social justice warrior.

May 4, 2016 - 19:57

Cooper Powell

So why call them "cultural marxist" which is a right wing conspiracy theory stemming from the Nazi "Kulturbolschewismus" and not just idiots if that is what they are?

May 4, 2016 - 20:00

Oliver Thompson

It's the same stupid shit as "social Darwinism".

May 4, 2016 - 20:03

Jose Ross

Nazis called themselves socialists. So?

USA calls itself a "Democracy". So?

May 4, 2016 - 20:03

Dominic Reyes

Because they're a specific group that's having an effect. They need a name, and that's what they're currently being called. If you want them to be called something besides cultural marxists maybe try coming up with a better name instead of telling people not to use terms that trigger you.

May 4, 2016 - 20:04

Austin Lewis

How do you intellectually justify this? HINT: you can't.

May 4, 2016 - 20:07

Ryan Price

How about, SJWs?
Bourgies?
Neoliberals?

Edgy kids?

May 4, 2016 - 20:07

Carter Moore

Even more so, both the tiny voter turnout in state and especially local elections, plus the presence of direct referenda at many of these elections, means it wouldn't be that hard to DIRECTLY overturn FPTP in favor of less vote-wasteful, more gerrymandering-resistant systems like IRV and at-large PV. This would allow third parties to become nationally established, become powerfully entryist in federal politics of the D & R parties, and eventually pass the constitutional amendments needed to reform federal democracy.

This. Holla Forums is a nazi torture chamber, and even the slightest sign of disunity is banned by hotpockets. We may disagree, but we are united on the areas we hold in common.

If the rumors about Biden getting auto-anointed in that event are true, what's needed isn't a personal Hillary indictment, but prosecution over electoral fraud and a primary recount.

Their world wasn't invaded, they invaded of their own choice after being invited by a traitorous humanbecame corrupted by demon worship and eventually (long after invading Azeroth) destroyed their own planet. You're probably thinking of Xen being invaded by the Combine in Half-Life.

May 4, 2016 - 20:08

Parker Stewart

I think it may also come from the misconception that they are mistaken for collectivists, when only sometimes it is the case. Funnily enough, they use what is known as the progressive stack, a hierarchy of 'victimhood' or rather their own muh privilege, which is taking advantage of peoples empathy. Ironically enough, many of them are narricisstic, an individualist trait, ergo, they themselves are individualists, not collectivists. Or, perhaps they are actually exploiting collectivism.

This thread is relevant to the 'gultral margzizm' discussion I think *sniffs*

8ch.net/leftypol/res/671285.html#671940

Another term conservatives and liberals use, is 'regressive leftists' I would prefure the term reactionary idpolers myself.

May 4, 2016 - 20:08

Lucas Sullivan

I know what Sargonites use (she? I made a term too), and it's all in order to propagandize the "they are leftists" meme, and promote their neo-macarthism.

And, Idpolers is ok too.

Only Gultural Margsism is broblematic term and BO should make it excellent too.

May 4, 2016 - 20:15

Noah Hernandez

The problem with "regressive leftists" as well as one of my personal favorites, "the faux-left" is that it can basically be applied to any and all types of liberals and doesn't really single out the idpolers. SJWs was good for a long while, but misuse both by the reactionary right and the adoption by ignorant non-idpol liberals has watered it down a bit.

May 4, 2016 - 20:15

Jeremiah Torres

If I want to communicate with people, I will use terms we both understand. If I'm talking to someone who refers to these people as cultural marxists, I'll refer to them as such. I'm sorry your feelings are too fragile to allow you to talk to people you disagree with.

This is probably the closest match, but I think it's a bit vague tbh.
They're not necessarily bourgeois.
They're not mainstream enough, honestly. A neoliberal would be someone like Obama or Clinton.
lel

You make some good points. They're exploiting the idea of collectivism by trying to set up a new hierarchy where they're on top.
Yeah, they're not really leftist or regressive. Reactionary idpoler is basically a synonym with SJW but more descriptive.

May 4, 2016 - 20:17

Bentley Lee

Sargonite is a perfectly good word.

You're right about SJW being watered down. It's probably because it's vague. Marxism has a similar problem because it's just [name]+ism. If you call someone a reactionary idpoler (assuming people know what idpol means), it's hard to distort the meaning.

May 4, 2016 - 20:20

Jaxon Price

The only thing I don't understand is why Sawant and others haven't just thrown their support behind the Green Party instead of trying to build a whole new one.

May 4, 2016 - 20:30

Ethan Hill

Why join an existing party when you have a bigger movement to use and you have the opportunity to have more control over the direction it takes?

May 4, 2016 - 21:07

Eli Hill

Not even a Marxist but just because you don't know what it means doesn't make it any less of an established, specifically defined political ideology.

May 4, 2016 - 21:08

Sebastian Scott

Because it's a lot of work to make a new party and the Green Party already encompasses like 95% of the issues Sandersnistas are pissed off about in its current platform?

May 4, 2016 - 21:11

Dylan Smith

Call them Jonesites after Alex Jones.

May 4, 2016 - 21:12

Daniel Taylor

The problem with "SJW" is that it's sarcastic. Normalfags (and many very retarded SJWs) will look at it and go "Social justice warrior? That sounds like a good thing!", much like other sarcastic internet epithets such as "butthurt", the joke goes over their heads.

On old GG threads, the best we could come up with was "outrageists", because their preferred currency of political exchange is hysterical moral outrage for its own sake, to virtue signal how enlightened they are, regardless of whether or not they're actually helping anyone.

May 4, 2016 - 21:27

Nicholas Scott

Oh well, I guess that explains it.

May 4, 2016 - 21:37

Sebastian Wood

what's your problem with her personally?

May 4, 2016 - 21:42

Evan Brown

That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that to someone unfamiliar with what it means, it's easy to not know the difference between a distortion and the proper version. I contrasted with reactionary idpoler, the meaning of which should be clear from the name without needing further understanding.

May 4, 2016 - 21:54

Evan Brooks

Indeed. Actually collectivists, such as Islamists, a group they claim is always marginalized, is actually more authentically collectivist. Islamists act for the group, and in the name of their spook, rather than self interest, especially when they fight against someone of an opposing tribe, as it were. So much so, they sacrifice themselves to it.

Or also, 'Reactionary Identity Politician' or 'RIP' for short. I figure its a way that should catch on soon enough, at least in anti idpol leftist circles. Spread that shit like wildfire.

"Oh look, it's the rips coming to steal our fun!"

May 4, 2016 - 21:55

Jose Rogers

This is pretty good but it should apply to any political group that uses this tactic. The alt-right does that shit too.

Good point. Sarcasm is fucking dangerous on the internet. The MLP fandom started as a sarcastic joke but people took it seriously and it got way out of hand.

May 4, 2016 - 21:56

Carson Howard

...

May 4, 2016 - 21:58

Lucas Reyes

Ripsters

May 4, 2016 - 22:09

Justin Fisher

Furthermore, I think these sorts of identity politics is actually tied to capitalism, rather than socialism. After Socialism was effectively snuffed out during the red scare, what popped up after was the civil rights movement. It was the only way any proles could have any hope of having slightly less exploitation in the capitalist system. Obviously, once the black movement was seen as separate to socialists and communists, they were eventually given more rights and opportunities, if at a slow pace. Not to mention, it's actually allot harder to demonize people just based on race, rather than an idea, despite what pol might tell you. For instance there are pollacks that say 'nah, I only hate muh gultral marxxist juus that are fucking things up with immigrants lmao.'

The problem was, the civil rights movement, a form of identity politics, if but for an ultimately good cause, was still that of a compromise. Instead of all workers having a revolution and equality for all, it was just black workers being given the oh so wonderful honor of being only just as exploited as everyone else or only slightly more if they could get away with it, IE the drug war. A similar thing could be said with feminism as well. Yay?

So how does it tie in to capitalism? Well, one example is with neo-liberals putting Harriet Tubman on the twenty. I wouldn't be surprised if she took such a thing as an insult after what she had been through. Or I could be wrong.

Other examples are how, yes, they have the progressive stack, which is just another hierarchy of new age muh privilege. Or the fact they are upper middle-class petite bourgeoisie that don't even talk about class struggle, let alone have to worry about it. Whatever 'socialism' they advocate is simply just state capitalism. If they new what actual socialism was, and how to get it, they sure as shit wouldn't be socialists.

This type of RIP'inglol Is effectively pushed through academia and in mainstream media. It is a narrative that is easy to digest for the dumbed down masses to consume. A commodity to be sold to give people a sense of self righteousness in the face of suffering others. An easy way to rally against a false enemy. It is used as a means to castrate any revolutionary thought with 'but what about muh race/gender/sexuality people?' Forcing people to deal with them before anyone can deal with any real problems. It's another form of discrimination as well. Proles to fight amongst themselves while the bourgeoisie make bank again and again.

Also, can someone cap that last post I made? I don't want it to be forgotten.

May 4, 2016 - 22:18

Ryder Cooper

Shit this has more potential than I thought.
and of course

May 4, 2016 - 22:18

Zachary Lewis

I think 'Minister of catchy phrases' sounds pretty good about now.

I have a feeling I was reaching with that first paragraph…

May 4, 2016 - 22:22

Wyatt Lopez

We tried that.
The name was already taken by racist.

May 4, 2016 - 22:28

Jackson Price

In my dream society, everyone/thing has whimsical names instead of something boring like "Director of PR".

May 4, 2016 - 22:28

Jason Lopez

How about the left hand path?

May 4, 2016 - 22:29

Luke Ross

It would actually kind of make sense to say RIP in peace.

May 4, 2016 - 22:30

Landon Sullivan

Why not classic leftism? Or just 'class' leftism?

May 4, 2016 - 22:34

Michael Butler

Classy leftism? :^)

May 4, 2016 - 22:40

Oliver Wilson

We shouldn't change the name, we aren't the 'alt-left', they are.

May 4, 2016 - 22:48

Jaxon Jackson

The alt-right style of outrageism is quite different, since they actually have a mostly coherent (if hilariously spooky) mindset of "volk must struggle against each other for supremacy, our volk are the ubermensch, and should rightfully subjugate or exterminate untermensch. If we fail to do so, we have been proven inferior and should suffer likewise". Compare this to the leftist outrageists, where the very concepts of logic, reason, and objective truth have been rejected, with constant self-criticism that often creeps into the realm of literal VHEM-grade misanthropy. The leftist kooks can be described in whole as outrageists precisely because they are ready and willing to be "deeply morally outraged" at anything and everything at any given moment.

Still, if you want to be REALLY specific, the exact term (originating from themselves) to describe their special flavor of brain cancer is "postmodern critical theorists".

To be fair, there were actual laws in the 1960s through which people could be oppressed in non-economic ways, so that would've had to be fixed regardless of capitalism and socialism. The problem is that's no longer the case, yet these perverts keep LARPing like it's still the 1960s1860s.

May 4, 2016 - 22:59

Juan Gutierrez

kill yourself

May 4, 2016 - 23:02

David Stewart

ftfy

May 4, 2016 - 23:06

Luke Martinez

I did say "mostly". It's true 99% of Holla Forumslacks aren't mentally disciplined enough to follow their own BS, my favorite example being:
"Aggregate IQ curves for entire populations mean Europeans as individuals are superior"
"But don't Jews and recent American-African immigrants like Obama have even higher aggregate IQ curves?"
"Muh elite cherrypicking"

May 4, 2016 - 23:15

Blake Butler

Shit, I forgot that's what they call themselves. That alone is almost an insult.

May 4, 2016 - 23:19

Owen Flores

Yes, she's neoliberal, neocon scum. On top of it, she isn't even a likeable, smooth "personality" like Obama. She's just a piece of shit who can't even manage a hint of a facade of decency.

She's a blatant liar. None of her policies will represent voters. It'll get buried in red tape or will go ignored altogether. That's how establishment politics works.

She and her husband have been involved in numerous scandals. She literally has a federal case hanging above her head at this very moment. She only gets away with this shit because of money and influence (i.e., money).

May 4, 2016 - 23:23

Zachary Fisher

You have no idea what you are talking about.

May 4, 2016 - 23:24

Carter Howard

That would have been a so much better term for them.

May 4, 2016 - 23:24

Ryan Kelly

Wowee, y'all shore did told me, yisser!

Anybody remember the kerfuffle over Obama praising single-payer and promising he'd try to do it during the campaign, then later during the passage of the ACA him denying that single-payer should even be on the table?

May 4, 2016 - 23:38

Cameron Peterson

Yup. Remember when Hilldawg said Democrats shouldn't fight each other over single payer?

May 4, 2016 - 23:55

Levi Jenkins

No they fucking don't. I don't know if you're relying on anecdotal experience or whatever, but don't beg the question. I have not once met a liberal who's called themselves a marxist, let alone a "cultural marxist." And who would be surprised, considering how Marx goes completely ignored in US schools. They don't call themselves this in either academia or in more general settings. Liberal ideologies can be separated into many different camps, some of which incorporate Marxist critiques of capitalism, but "cultural marxism" is not one of them and no one worth their salt would respect such a ridiculous supposed theoretical framework.

Don't even try to justify your misuse of terms by deflection. If you understood the contradiction from the get-go, you would not condone its use by the people you're against; you'd call them out for it, and rightfully so. Instead, here you are getting defensive because YOU got called out, saying "but THEY say it too!" No they don't, and you know they don't. Regardless, I don't respect the expression in any sense, no matter who is saying it. However, I will say I'm only seeing right-wing "redpilled" idiots ever throwing this shit around as if to give their retarded racist ideologies an air of credibility because it sounds vaguely academic.

May 5, 2016 - 00:39

Jeremiah Martin

Hipster parasites attach themselves to absolutely anything they think will give them cachet or credibility.

May 5, 2016 - 01:04

Ethan James

I've heard these people call themselves marxists. They're probably just doing it to be edgy, like most people who wear Che shirts. I don't care that the terms are contradictory. Most ideologies are full of contradictions

May 5, 2016 - 01:05

Bentley Powell

Spoiler that shit.

May 5, 2016 - 01:07

Ayden Brooks

Can somebody remind gee gee that she has probably never even opened that book and neither will any of her fans? They only read their own social media sludge. Hardly a KGB conspiracy.

Really, I'm getting kinda sick of this gultural margsim may may. Holla Forums obviously cooked it up in its current form just to convert people to the alt-right, starting with gamer gators. Just create some pro-GG artwork before plastering the stuff with "no more cultural marxism :DDD"

May 5, 2016 - 01:42

Parker Foster

That works.

Another simple idea is to use the hipsters' own trick against them. When you call someone an SJW asshole, they can smugly ask "so you oppose social justice?" Now, when you call yourself economic left, and this angers idpol, you can ask "so you support the rich?" etc.

May 5, 2016 - 01:57

Nathan Flores

Sorry, I've seen too much to remember.

May 5, 2016 - 01:58

Josiah Anderson

That picture includes some wiki shit that has since disappeared. I question it's validity. At any rate, attention whores will always exist, but you don't cherry pick cases (1) as evidence that such a thing as "cultural marxism" exists, and (2) to justify using improper terminology as a result. When you see attention-whoring idiots, you call them what they are: attention-whores, pseudointellectuals, etc.

I've used the expression in a perfectly appropriate way. He was justifying his use of a dumb expression under the assumption that the other side uses it with the same understanding and frequency. To say it's okay to call "cultural marxists" such "because they will call themselves marxists" is begging the question flat-out, along with some other fallacies in there I'm too tired to even think through and identify right now.

Doesn't matter what they do it for. Anecdotal evidence doesn't fly.

What is this, some doublethink shit? Now you're just being silly. If you care about being understood, you use clear, well-understood terms. Not oxymorons and especially not ones that refer to dumb spook shit.

Like? And assuming it's true, why should this justify poor reasoning and communication habits?

May 5, 2016 - 01:59

Brody Moore

I'm not saying these people are Marxists, I'm saying they've jammed their ovipositors down our throat, and people look at us funny because of the facehugger clamped onto us. That is a real problem we have to fix.

May 5, 2016 - 02:03

Samuel Rivera

I'm having trouble figuring out what you're referring to. If you're referring to liberals co-opting the left then all you can do is counter their misconceptions with reasoned explanations. If you're referring to attentionwhores then you just call that fuck shit out. You need to shame the kind of behavior you don't want to see to the point that people discipline themselves against it. I find that this works, but only when enough people chime in. The last thing we do is use stupid meme terms, either seriously or ironically; in the end, it only leads to more confusion.

May 5, 2016 - 02:17

Jeremiah Wright

delete this

May 5, 2016 - 05:06

Michael Morgan

Hey guise.. Remember when Sanders won Indiana?

May 5, 2016 - 06:00

Isaiah Rodriguez

You mean when hillary lost Indiana? Who the fuck is Sandels?

May 5, 2016 - 06:38

Lucas Jones

I thought Hillary was running unopposed? Did this Sandals guy not drop out yet?

May 5, 2016 - 08:42

Elijah Morales

Can yall cap these posts? This needs to be remembered!

May 5, 2016 - 08:50

Brandon Baker

test

May 5, 2016 - 08:56

Landon Morris

Well tested my friend

May 5, 2016 - 09:04

Jacob Edwards

Saw this on one of Jonathan Capehart's shitty Bezos-funded posts. I laughed harder than is necessary or healthy.

May 5, 2016 - 10:23

Sebastian Young

When will Holla Forums learn what neoliberalism actually is?

May 5, 2016 - 12:03

Ian Wood

When will you slit your throat?

May 5, 2016 - 12:39

Brayden Foster

The problem is you can't do this because you still agree with the basic principles of the left "idpol"ers. You still want racial equality and desegregation, muh privileges for homosexuals, equality for women, etc.

The "alt right" has been growing and presented a real intellectual threat to mainstream conservatism because we flat out reject the leftist inb4 semantics I'm going to keep using it because it's easy narrative on race, gender, family, sexuality, etc etc etc. The problem cuckservatives have is they're forced to argue on the Left's platform, they've already ceded to the Left the moral highground on most positions. You guys likewise have ceded the moral highground to these feminists, Xi/Xir/Xum types, Black Lives Matter, etc. You don't disagree that their hearts are in the right place, you just disagree with the tactics or perhaps the extent they go.

Like the cuckservatives, you consider economics to be more important than identity politics. Cuckservatives ramble on about lowering taxes and you ramble about raising wages. But identity IS important to people, call it "spooks" if you want but ignoring this and considering yourself above it is like….webm related. These "spooks" are important to people, more important to them than their class status. Call that "false conciousness" or whatever but if you don't acknowledge it you'll never get anywhere. That's the reason the idpol Left has not only eclipsed you, but become the dominant faction in most of your traditional Leftist organizations.

May 5, 2016 - 12:40

Levi Jones

I see the term misused here all the time, way more than it's correctly used.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism

Stop using it to mean Democratic Party elite style liberalism.

May 5, 2016 - 12:45

Josiah Rogers

None of that is out of line with the Democratic Party's liberalism.

May 5, 2016 - 12:46

Parker Anderson

CONFIRMED KENYAN

"Neoliberalism" is clearly used here mostly when referring to social issues, as it was in the sentence I responded to (calling the deeply triggering and problematic move to put Tubman on the 20 "neoliberalism"). It's an economics term, not an ideology or social stance.

I bet you get triggered by seeing people use "cultural marxism" but still go ahead and make excuses for this shit.

May 5, 2016 - 12:55

Lincoln Wilson

Green Party is old news. They don't seem serious, they have a hippie connotation, and they are barely a third party. All the Greens will go to the new party, and be invited. Stein already wants that. It needs to be seen as a new movement.

Also Socialist Alternative is the most open and adaptive of all Trotskyist parties. WSWS hates them with a passion. They have done a lot for Bernie and the left.

May 5, 2016 - 13:26

Josiah Hall

… At least you're funny.

You forgot Augusto Pinochet's Chile, where it all begun, as an experiment.

But, yes. I don't see why Hillary is not neoliberal or and different than what the US is doing since the Reagan.

Was there anything but neoliberalism, appart from some attempts from Obama to not let US go deeper into the shit?

May 5, 2016 - 13:38

Wyatt Green

It's literally Orwellian, they have different, contradictory rebuttals to everything that let them feel as super speshul as possible.
They often claim that Jews are so smart because they're biologically sociopathic, for example, while wanking their chodes to black/Hispanic murder fantasies.

May 5, 2016 - 13:53

Brayden Ortiz

what are your thoughts on the long-term effects of trump taking over the republican party? it shows that the republican party base doesn't give a shit about entitlement reform or abolishing the minimum wage but DO care about nationalist strongmen

so he's already smashed the "three-legged stool" of fiscal conservatives, neocons, and evangelicals–he's a moderate with protectionist tendencies on trade, he's suspicious of foreign intervention, and he doesn't give a shit about the traditional wedge social issues (gays and abortion), setting up for an election between a renegade porky appealing to right-wing idpol and, most likely, the standard-bearer of neoliberal imperialism tinged with """intersectionality"""

whether trump wins or loses, i expect the GOP to become more nationalistic and more secular, losing support in the sunbelt and making a comeback in the great lakes/northeast–whether the democrats shift to social democracy (as bernie sanders is hoping) or if they double down on third way politics remains to be seen

May 5, 2016 - 13:55

Jayden Ross

I honestly doubt it will change.

Trump will lose the general, and in 2020 another Mitt Romney will be propped up.

May 5, 2016 - 13:58

Benjamin Reyes

Trump is the belligerent egotism that Republican voters have wanted for decades. The GOP made its bed, now it has to sleep in it.

May 5, 2016 - 13:59

Thomas Jenkins

Is it Germany 1930 or USA 2017?

May 5, 2016 - 13:59

Ayden Phillips

For all the criticism Bernie is blasted with over being a flash-in-the-pan phenomenon, Trump strikes me as the man running as himself. What is his staff? Who is going to be in his administration? What organizations form his base? I predict that while Trump will dictate policy like any other president, he will have a very difficult time (assuming he even tries) attempting to make any kind of lasting change in the Republican party, whether at the high political level, or at the rank-and-file organized base level.

May 5, 2016 - 14:01

Gavin Cook

an easy comparison to make, but the US's situation is nowhere near as precarious as that of the weimar republic, and while trump is shit, he's closer to silvio berlusconi or juan peron than to hitler

hillary will probably beat trump this november, but he's clearly discredited the "movement conservatism" that's controlled the GOP since the 1970s–future republican candidates will have to win over the nationalistic resentment and protectionist tendencies of his base while not brazenly alienating minorities and women as trump obviously has

May 5, 2016 - 14:04

Luke Jackson

Berlusconi is a saint compared to Trump!

May 5, 2016 - 14:10

Thomas Carter

No you haven't. I didn't assume the conclusion of my argument.
You are the one with poor communication habits, and you're using your reasoning to justify what looks like some kind of autism, tbh. Most people are spooked as all get out. If you want to communicate with them, you have to try to understand their spooks and work at least partially within them. Otherwise, to them you will look like you have two heads. Inventing new phraseology or adopting terms that a person isn't familiar with is not conducive to communication.

May 5, 2016 - 14:11

Brayden Rivera

bigstory.ap.org/article/d4056e6ec09f488fa6b1f6fe3e715e82/fired-sanders-democrats-shift-left-health-care
Stirred by Sanders, Democrats shift left on health care

May 5, 2016 - 14:34

Camden Turner

If that were true in the slightest, dominant European political parties (rightist ones certainly, leftist ones increasingly as well!) would have to at least give lip service to their constituents' practically unanimous calls to shut off free trade and eliminate mass economic immigration. Yet, over the decades since EU enlargement and immigration began they have done neither of those things, instead dismissing such class-consciousness as "isolationism", "bigotry", and "racism". Even on the politically correct issue of nonintervention and pacifism, overwhelming public opinion was only grudgingly given any notice.

They are so enraptured by the twin serpents of neoliberalism and neoconservatism, that they are willing to go to the mat, ceding vote after vote to neofascist parties until they pass the parliamentary threshold, rather than give even one inch.

This speaks poorly of Trump's chances to leave a political legacy. Especially since American Republicans have gone one further than their European counterparts, by bemoaning immigration/offshoring as an instrument of political rhetoric, while simultaneously being the party that passes the most free trade treaties and immigration quota increases.

The shilling is strong in this one

May 5, 2016 - 14:47

Grayson Gonzalez

>in the latest installment of the Kaiser Family Foundation health care poll
what did you expect

May 5, 2016 - 14:51

Christopher Williams

...

May 5, 2016 - 15:18

Colton Clark

You made assumptions in your premises, which lead to an assumption of the conclusion.

Okay.

So…"cultural marxism" then? I'm done.

May 5, 2016 - 15:34

Austin White

It was a Republican plan from the start. It's incredible how Democrats were tricked into supporting a huge giveaway to the insurance companies, instead of universal health care.

May 5, 2016 - 15:50

Joseph Ortiz

Honestly I have to wonder if Democrats are not simply controlled opposition/sheepdogs for the Republicans

I mean what else would explain their bizarre insistence on working with Republicans when they have balked at every attempt so far to compromise?

May 5, 2016 - 16:12

Carson Ortiz

you're just figuring this out now?

May 5, 2016 - 16:16

Hunter Johnson

It's a bit more complicated than that. They're both controlled opposition to distract voters with wedge issues while porkies interests get inshrined into law with bipartisan support and no media coverage.

May 5, 2016 - 16:19

Luis Phillips

It's not like I thought the Democratic Party was a bunch of brave underdogs fighting the establishment up until now, but part of me thought they might actually desire to win. It's honestly a feeling I've had for years now since before I was even an actual socialist. Perhaps they're just afraid of energizing the left even the slightest bit, perhaps they idealize the modern American liberal republic too much to fully finish off the Republican Party, maybe they even want them to continue as a foil to their own actions, who knows. I think there are a multitude of reasons for their ridiculous actions.

May 5, 2016 - 16:27

Nicholas Martinez

It's good cop/bad cop. They both have the same goals, but one pretends to be one your side fighting against the other.

May 5, 2016 - 16:40

Isaiah Barnes

jacobinmag.com/2016/05/donald-trump-election-gop-cruz-kasich-republicans/
Why Elites Hate Trump

May 5, 2016 - 17:27

Asher Collins

kek did anyone see the daily show's newest segment on "le ebin berniebros" meme? noah to gulag list soon?

May 5, 2016 - 22:49

Wyatt Allen

TDS has been shit since Stewart left, who watches it?

May 6, 2016 - 00:22

Austin Sanchez

it was so fucking forced it was so bad

May 6, 2016 - 01:30

Luis Campbell

My grandma found out I'm about dat phonebanking life. She's a boomer from the deep south.

May 6, 2016 - 02:00

Jack Butler

Explain this

May 6, 2016 - 02:02

Carter Brown

I know you're young and it's great that you're getting involved in activism but please stop attention whoring, you'll regret it later in life

May 6, 2016 - 02:11

James Davis

I'm guessing it's Granny from the [Surname:] Baker side of the family.

May 6, 2016 - 02:12

Brayden Rogers

grannies bake cookies, jon
its what they do

May 6, 2016 - 02:49

Jack Walker

Good job pointing out the "entitlement" spook

May 6, 2016 - 04:48

William Nguyen

what did they say in it?

May 6, 2016 - 05:15

Grayson Howard

The usual Daily Show bullshit.

youtube.com/watch?v=WabfBjlHG54

May 6, 2016 - 06:16

Isaiah Rodriguez

That's how all of those conversations go.

May 6, 2016 - 06:46

Elijah Richardson

Boy am I glad I stopped watching that idpol shitshow a couple years ago now. Good fucking riddance.

May 6, 2016 - 06:49

Josiah Ortiz

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May 6, 2016 - 06:50

Ryder Bennett

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Leo Torres

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Jayden Perry

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May 6, 2016 - 06:51

Cameron Howard

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May 6, 2016 - 06:51

Isaiah Fisher

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May 6, 2016 - 06:51

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May 6, 2016 - 06:51

Thomas Mitchell

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May 6, 2016 - 06:52

William Cooper

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May 6, 2016 - 06:52

Landon Scott

...

May 6, 2016 - 06:52

Gavin Morris

Is this a le ebin raid?

May 6, 2016 - 06:55

Jason Bailey

Lmao

May 6, 2016 - 06:56

Easton Torres

Sexy!

May 6, 2016 - 07:01

Joshua Ortiz

That man is lifting 103 pounds like it's nothing. Incredible.

May 6, 2016 - 07:03

Ian Evans

What did they do to the Daily Show?
;_;

May 6, 2016 - 08:58

Evan Gonzalez

>Bernie's plan will cause trillions of dollars in debts
I am neither American nor an economist, but isn't the word "trillion" a bit exagerated? The total current US debt is 15 trillions dollars.

May 6, 2016 - 09:18

Jordan Myers

I guess liberals ARE economically illiterate

Not directed at you, just making an observation.

May 6, 2016 - 09:38

Aaron Myers

It's a damn shame, isn't it? It used to be great. But a little before Jon left & after Noah took over, it went full retard/neoliberal. Sure, it was a bit like that before, but it was more lighthearted/not as serious when it covered idpol, for example(and actually had some humor injected so they got away with it more). Now it's on a whole 'nother level, and the comedy writing is complete shit.

That's the worst part - They didn't forget, they're just willfully ignoring it to push a narrative. Believe if it was Hillary, they'd be the first to bring these points up.

May 6, 2016 - 10:04

Adrian Torres

The media lynch mob is what's going to kill him, isn't it?

May 6, 2016 - 11:09

David Reed

Both the democrats and republicans are a good thing for each other. Everything about our election system is managed by the two of them, which is why 3rd parties like the Green Party and libertarian party aren't even allowed into debates. If one were to dissolve they run the risk of whatever replaces them being less willing to play ball.

May 6, 2016 - 11:23

Carter Nelson

M8 when BO adds a Lares, Puerto Rico or PIP flag I promise on my heart that the trip and name will go away. I don't see why these bother people so much anyway, I just think it's important that when I say things people know where I'm coming from and a loose identity helps with that. Like how people can read Freudfags posts and not go "What the fuck?"

It's a cross language Spanish thing, we call our parents "mama/dada" and then our grandparents "mother surname/father surname". At one point my dad started applying it to his mom.

Thanks.

May 6, 2016 - 11:26

Easton Reyes

Hey, you guys know how Holla Forums calls negative reporting on Nintendo "Nintendoom"?
I'm going to have to start saying "Berniesandoom".

May 6, 2016 - 11:37

Camden Nelson

“It was a lie, clearly,” Lazar said.
NBC News asked Chris Tarbell, who broke open the Silk Road case, to review Lazar’s explanation of how he got into the server.

archive.is/RYyOM

May 6, 2016 - 11:42

Liam Williams

Will he go the way of Aaron Swartz?

May 6, 2016 - 11:48

Jayden Rivera

the hero we need, but not the one we deserve

May 6, 2016 - 11:55

Isaiah Kelly

Honestly, I doubt it. The type of media coverage he gets has largely remained the same, since he first announced his running. In some ways, I think it's helped him. When the bias is so obvious, not as many people take the content so seriously. It might turn some viewers off, but I don't think we have to worry about it much.

It continues to be annoying, though.

May 6, 2016 - 12:08

Lincoln Jenkins

THE FIRE RISES

mediaite.com/online/bernie-sanders-supporters-force-early-end-to-hillary-clinton-speech/

May 6, 2016 - 12:10

Thomas Martinez

The Democrats are destroying their own party.

May 6, 2016 - 12:23

David Myers

Both parties are imploding and its glorious.

May 6, 2016 - 12:24

Tyler Barnes

oh fuck you Shills

this is what Hillarybots actually believe

May 6, 2016 - 12:31

Robert Miller

They aren't wrong, I'm definitely not voting Clinton even if Sanders endorses her.

May 6, 2016 - 12:36

Joshua Davis

With the Dems, it's by choice.

May 6, 2016 - 12:39

Michael Myers

I'm saying that they're blaming Sanders for breaking up the democratic party instead of Hillary for driving everyone away by being republican 2.0: now with more vagina

May 6, 2016 - 12:40

John Gomez

It's like they completely forgot the 2008 primary.

May 6, 2016 - 12:49

John Phillips

Both parties are doing it by choice. The leadership for both tried to ignore the wishes of their voter base, those in the Republican party had to be dragged into finally going along with them and you still have holdouts at top levels like Ryan.

May 6, 2016 - 12:52

Noah Taylor

Absolute madman

May 6, 2016 - 13:25

Joshua Clark

She seriously has a different fucking shirt or blouse on every single time she's on camera. I hate this porky so much.

May 6, 2016 - 16:50

Landon Cooper

theintercept.com/2016/05/06/donald-trumps-got-hairspray-riff-hes-gonna-use/
Donald Trump’s Hairspray Woes Inspire Climate Denial Riff

May 6, 2016 - 16:58

Jason Cook

Capitalism cannot collapse fast enough.

May 6, 2016 - 17:02

William Murphy

We need more people like Jon Stewart tbh.
youtube.com/watch?v=aFQFB5YpDZE

May 6, 2016 - 17:06

Jaxson Martin

youtube.com/watch?v=flfDnmOcjpM

and George Carlin

That Jon Stewart clip is one of my favourite times the system has been exposed

I think they picked Trevor Noah because he is lame and not strong

May 6, 2016 - 17:13

Blake Garcia

BERNIE SANDERS: Poverty is a death sentence.

youtu.be/qdWyOTvLg04

Probably his most important speech. He sent is a very important email for his campaign to highlight it. He then outlined some big policy positions I imagine he plans on working on with the Dem party. The speech comes close to calling out class warfare, and he is further escalating his attacks on the Dem party and Hillary. He is making the irreversible split.

May 6, 2016 - 17:16

Austin Hernandez

The Email:

May 6, 2016 - 17:17

Ryder Ortiz

****he sent it out as a special email to highlight this point.

May 6, 2016 - 17:19

Jack Price

...

May 6, 2016 - 17:19

Evan King

Holy shit… he's doing it. He's going full gommie!!!!!

May 6, 2016 - 17:22

John Wright

I thought that would be his routine on the same topic. I love how when Carlin makes salient point the guy immediately compares him to Marx. Does he not realize that makes Marx sound reasonable to the people listening? Comparisons work both ways.

May 6, 2016 - 17:23

Noah Nelson

Did anyone else watch the episode last night.

Holy shit Noah and the writing staff are fucking neoliberal stooges

May 6, 2016 - 17:23

Ayden Brooks

Forgot vid

hulu.com/watch/938836#i1,p0,d1

May 6, 2016 - 17:26

Jacob Myers

Wanna see how retarded they can be? Here's a bit that made it to the front page of reddit where they try to conflate guns and abortion.
Sorry it's not a mirror. Viacom is greedy as fuck with the DMCA.

youtube.com/watch?v=-W6G_ndFVMY

May 6, 2016 - 17:27

Joshua Bell

I hope some idiot tries to call him out on his "mistake" so someone else can point out that America is two continents.

May 6, 2016 - 17:30

Jordan Ortiz

Continents are a spook

May 6, 2016 - 17:31

David Allen

Spooks are a spook.

May 6, 2016 - 17:33

Connor Williams

I remember watching that live and being triggered

May 6, 2016 - 17:40

Justin Hill

youtube.com/watch?v=5iAIM02kv0g

Daily reminder Holla Forums made this the theme of the US politics thread a while back and now Bernie sent out a press release a few days ago titled "Democratic Party: Which side are we on?"

berniesanders.com/sanders-democratic-party-whose-side/

People are starting to make 2016 adapted covers of it 4 bernie as well, some are a lil cringe tho.

youtube.com/watch?v=2Ndh6Elb7jE

May 6, 2016 - 17:44

Gabriel Ramirez

youtube.com/watch?v=DP47zngtGMs

Just kidding this old man adapting it for Bernie is probably the best thing I've ever seen this election.

May 6, 2016 - 17:52

Brody King

Dear god Bernie, where the fuck have you been?

eeoc.gov/laws/statutes/epa.cfm

May 6, 2016 - 18:02

Aaron Cruz

He sort of needs to just to keep up with HRC. I mean passing the same thing twice doesn't really hurt anyone.

May 6, 2016 - 18:04

Ethan Wright

I didn't get an e-mail, I wonder whom he sent it to.

May 6, 2016 - 18:06

Bentley Brooks

Stirner was a spook :^)

May 6, 2016 - 18:25

Brayden Murphy

It's sad that Bernie has to kiss the ring of delusional PC weenies, however dishonestly, on immigration and feminazism, but it's still a political reality. Still, he could leave out the gallingly contrafactual "for equal work" part and I doubt they'd notice

Technically one supercontinent split into three continents.

May 6, 2016 - 19:04

Luke Sanders

This is the exact reason why Bernie still has support and nobody watches the news anymore.

May 6, 2016 - 19:05

Owen Davis

based Commissar.

May 6, 2016 - 19:24

Ayden Taylor

Sign any acts you want into law, but if they are really legislating "equal pay for equal work" (non-Burger, but don't you already have that in law?) but nothing will change on the ground because this is already the reality - at least as far as it's ever going to be in a wageslave-based market economy.

Even liberal feminist luminaries are starting to realise the equal pay/work vector for the "wage gap" talking point is starting to smell. That's why you're starting to see them shift gears to the weirdly traditionalist "muh woman's work is less valued!" angle. Only time will tell how that will fly in the long term though.

May 6, 2016 - 20:15

Alexander Lopez

"We must come to the Democratic Convention armed and ready to fight for the Superdelagate's support"

–Bernie

May 6, 2016 - 20:25

Leo Barnes

Not just once in 1963, but this has been rehashed literally like four times over the years now. Somehow people seem to forget every single time.

May 6, 2016 - 20:35

Elijah Ortiz

At least it's not as bad as the 50 billion times automatic firearms have been "banned" by hysterical technopeasants.

May 6, 2016 - 20:44

Aiden Parker

I think you mean "assault weapons" :^^)

May 6, 2016 - 20:52

Robert Carter

SALT RAIFUS

May 6, 2016 - 20:58

Dominic Turner

I'm pretty sure the argument of house work because labor is less "traditional". since most traditional family the woman who be also happy with the position she's in

May 7, 2016 - 00:39

Aaron Wright

One and a half hour and Guam results will start pouring in.

May 7, 2016 - 01:30

Juan Allen

Have some cringe, a good post, and some links.
Tbh I don't know why I keep looking at this stuff it just makes me angry.
Here's hoping for Guam. It's winner take all so that's good.
onlineharassmentdata.org/2016elections/
berniebrowho.tumblr.com

May 7, 2016 - 01:34

Henry Brooks

What? I had no idea Guam was already voting. I thought next was West Virginia.

May 7, 2016 - 01:37

Ethan Baker

Guam, then WV on Toosday, then Kentucky and Oregon. We might lose Kentucky- as in, it's one of the three states we'll have trouble with alongside DC and New Jersey. Hopefully we win all of them though. Guam is basically in the bag.

May 7, 2016 - 01:43

Christian Barnes

Fuck, I hadn't heard anything about it. Shit now I'm worried the MSM will just not cover Democratic primaries that Bernie is likely to win.

May 7, 2016 - 01:45

Charles Perry

I have a hard time believing anyone would be fooled by those shill jobs. They smack of a manager screaming at them to do better, while a Hillary staffer screams at him/her over the phone to do better, while Hillary screams at him/her to do better.

May 7, 2016 - 01:49

Eli Hill

MEANWHILE ON CLINTON NEWS NETWORK

May 7, 2016 - 01:57

James Bennett

Oh, believe me, nobody does. If you go through as many hill shill posts as I do you realize there's no way it's not a coordinated effort. They repeat the same talking point for like a week and then drop it because it failed to catch on. They also have really shilly activity patterns. On news websites that will be their entire history if it even is displayed anywhere and on Reddit it's easy to tell that they use the account for personal stuff as well as their job due to vast separation between what they usually do and the content of their shill posts (ie. no interest in politics outside of cranking out five "I USED TO LIKE BERNIE BUT" posts a day). Like literally all they use is Facebook, Twitter, Reddit and news. Why don't they use Tumblr, Instagram, or Snapchat or anything like that? Because on Facebook, Twitter, Reddit and the news, not only can they fling their content in front of people's unsuspecting eyeballs while they're looking at other stuff due to those websites "comment on everything" philosophy which they can't do on other social sites and also they can play cat with the bushy tail or peacock and follow each other and like the same pages and feign activity and size which is also harder to do on other websites. With G+ the answer is far simpler, the usage in America is a joke and it's not in the budget.
Honestly this shit reminds me of Gamergate with the whole media invested interests and grassroots and astroturfing and shit, only most of the astroturfing GG pointed at was probably fake. the biggest astroturfers were Holla Forums but I'm not gonna go down that road again

May 7, 2016 - 02:01

Easton Sanchez

Oh, also on "shilly posting patterns" they often have accounts with names clearly centered around the 2016 elections that only tweet or Facebook about the election. Whoever is managing the Reddit astroturfing is better at this and only hires actual Reddit users but it's still bad.
Sometimes the Twitter users will make a lame attempt at making it look like they also use their account for personal stuff but I mean like one personal post wedged in between 9 election posts or more.

May 7, 2016 - 02:07

Ayden Adams

Dude I noticed this in about 30 seconds on reddit the day he lost NY. They are terrible at hiding the fact that they're shills. It drips from every word.

There are companies that you pay to do this shit for you. They're probably hiring different companies to diversify the program. It'd be ridiculously inefficient (but more authentic) to hire random users to shill. I haven't looked into it too much but I'd guess they have staffs of people who work on this stuff full time with several accounts each shilling for different things.

May 7, 2016 - 02:10

Anthony Reed

God I miss this man.

May 7, 2016 - 03:06

Ryder Taylor

DC is going to be really hard.

May 7, 2016 - 03:10

Luis Rivera

West Virginia is also in the bag, Sanders has had a huge lead there going up to it. He has an enormous deficit in Kentucky so I don't see us winning it, I just hope he doesn't lose it as bad as the polls say.

May 7, 2016 - 03:13

Ian Cook

It hurts how he's been replaced. But at least now we have snarky people on opinionstube, right? ;_;

May 7, 2016 - 03:23

Thomas Fisher

What is dead can never die.

May 7, 2016 - 03:27

Henry Stewart

No results yet. 30 minutes late, so far…
nytimes.com/elections/results

May 7, 2016 - 03:31

Adrian Taylor

nytimes.com/elections/2016/primaries/guam

May 7, 2016 - 03:35

Ryder Rivera

There is nothing wrong with that vid.

May 7, 2016 - 03:36

David Long

hehehe

May 7, 2016 - 03:37

Colton Allen

Yes, because it's their fault Hillary is a shitty candidate.

Holy shit.

they really believe Hillary is a leftist along with LBJ.

May 7, 2016 - 03:57

Ethan Young

This OHD link is a fascinating link and a great rebuttal to the "Bernie Bro" narrative.

Which makes that Daily Show segment all the more disgusting.

May 7, 2016 - 04:03

Jordan Wilson

KY here. I've already sent in my overseas ballot for Sanders. He actually crushes Hillary in overseas voting, in all of the states/elections I've seen so far, which is awesome.

I'm working on my parents to vote for Sanders as well. I'm pretty sure my elder sis is voting for him, already, but I'll make sure tonight. And I think my Nana(grandma) might be leaning towards Hillary because of the "strong woman" stuff, but I do know she likes Sanders as well. I'll keep you guys posted as to the progress. I showed my mom a lot of Sanders clips & links. She wasn't aware of any of it, and said "Sanders really gets it". I was really happy to hear that. Seeds are planted, all I have to do is harvest them, now.

Sanders had a great rally in Louisville, and it seems healthcare reform, joblessness, education, failed drug war & income inequality are strong issues for him in KY. His entire platform overall should speak to many Kentuckians. I think specifically political corruption, war on drugs, education & healthcare. So if you speak to KY people, I would mention these strong points.

I think we'll do alright in KY, but many are conservative & neoliberal.. So that's what we're up against. Same 'ol same, really.

May 7, 2016 - 04:21

Jace Foster

1.5 hours, still no results

May 7, 2016 - 04:39

Justin Jackson

Not a lot of people know about the details and Bernie is a busy guy, yo. It's like a really bad meme. I've tried talking about it in class one time and I only got weird looks and the professor quickly changed the topic.

May 7, 2016 - 04:46

Nicholas Rivera

twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/449525268529815552
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

May 7, 2016 - 05:13

Nathan Reed

...

May 7, 2016 - 05:17

Angel Gutierrez

I thought everyone knew that about him.

May 7, 2016 - 05:27

Juan Russell

Given that virtually the entire population is vaccinated, only a little over 0.5% of people are diagnosed with autism, how do people conclude that vaccines cause autism?

May 7, 2016 - 05:30

Easton Walker

Because they inherently mistrust science in favor of "muh religion"

May 7, 2016 - 05:55

Gabriel Jackson

I don't think Trump is religious just stupid.

May 7, 2016 - 05:56

Easton Cook

I don't think Trump is stupid just self-interested. He probably has some investment in health care or something related and is rubbing his hands together at the thought of more sick people.

May 7, 2016 - 06:05

Hudson Bailey

I highly doubt it.
People mistakenly give Trump more credit than he deserves.
The guy is out of his depth, but can occasionally make a decent point because he has enough people paid to help him understand these sorts of things. When his handlers haven't prepped him on something, his blind spots are glaring. Even the self-interested have better tact. Demagogues don't need to be smart because they function on another level.
It's all an appeal to emotion, feels, and spooks.

May 7, 2016 - 06:20

Dominic Cook

good post

May 7, 2016 - 06:35

Jonathan Wright

Bernie Sanders count is currently facing a challenge on-site

Southern (7/7 batches of votes): Clinton 59.4%, Sanders 31.1
Central (15/15) batches of votes: Clinton 52.0%, Sanders 42.0%
One batch of 50 (number 11) is being recounted, potential tally error
Northern (0/X batches of votes): No results
TOTAL: Clinton 54.5%, Sanders 38.5% (1095/~1400 total votes reported). Very likely Clinton wins 4 delegates, Sanders 3.
Source: twitter.com/jserves

May 7, 2016 - 06:39

Lucas Lopez

...

May 7, 2016 - 06:44

Josiah Cox

...

May 7, 2016 - 06:48

Nolan Jackson

[media blackout]

May 7, 2016 - 06:52

Aaron Wilson

Turnout apparently was a third of that in 2008. Unless a landslide in either direction happened in northern Guam, Bernie is getting 3 to Hillary's 4 delegates.

May 7, 2016 - 06:53

Ryder Ramirez

I don't get it. What does this mean?

May 7, 2016 - 06:57

Matthew Lewis

Guam Voter: A lot of people in Guam, I'd say most, myself included, did not know until very recently that we can actually vote not in the general election, we can vote in the primary elections.

youtube.com/watch?v=ahxwCF5d1co&feature=youtu.be&t=9s

May 7, 2016 - 07:06

Nicholas Miller

Holla Forums: origins

May 7, 2016 - 07:32

Logan King

Reminder that there is only one candidate you should vote for, and he is Andrew D. Basiago.

May 7, 2016 - 07:48

Carson Collins

Jesus H. Christ

May 7, 2016 - 08:31

Justin Scott

Nah brah. That PPP poll was taken a literal year ago and had undecided something like 30%. The demographics are favorable. Out of the three that are going to be hard that one will be easiest.

May 7, 2016 - 09:38

William Wright

FUGGEN JOKE
YOUR DEMOCRACY IS A JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

May 7, 2016 - 10:53

Joshua Jones

Jesus Christ you autist the results already came in 4-3 Hillary, not sure why they're not on NYT.

May 7, 2016 - 11:23

Thomas Torres

SLICK

May 7, 2016 - 11:33

Leo Lee

If Sanders hadn't run, droves of his would-be supporters would have turned out dutifully for Clinton. Now they can't stomach the evil bitch. He is destroying the party, the slickest entryist.

May 7, 2016 - 11:40

Gabriel Kelly

100% this

which is why i can't tolerate conspiracy mongering by wooswoos

he is using the democratic party, not the other way around

May 7, 2016 - 11:46

Logan Myers

They're just trying to peddle their own candidate from the SEP. They're affiliated with each other.
Fucking Trots.

May 7, 2016 - 12:06

Anthony Bailey

UNBIASED STATE JOURNALISM

May 7, 2016 - 12:13

Thomas Bell

Lenin dindoo nuffin he wuz a good boi
Russia Today isn't even quasi-public, it's just government-funded, and yet it's completely biased. These fucking MLs who think that wouldn't happen under their system are the epitome of ideology.

May 7, 2016 - 12:17

Matthew Phillips

Maine Democratic Party Abolishes Superdelegates
youtube.com/watch?v=LvExsPUTiQQ

May 7, 2016 - 16:28

Lucas Jones

Why mention Peron? Wasn't he actually good for Argentina?

May 7, 2016 - 17:04

Zachary Martinez

They didn't abolish the superdelegates, they just passed a motion that obligates them to assign themselves proportionally to Maine's popular vote. Still a good move, though not as good as abolishing them entirely from the Democratic party.

May 7, 2016 - 17:13

Owen Parker

State delegate here, we've been thinking of doing something like this in our state convention in a few weeks. It's good to have an example to follow.

May 7, 2016 - 20:05

Nolan Stewart

Also the only way to abolish the system entirely is at the national convention in July.

May 7, 2016 - 20:06

David Lopez

Seen any shady stuff going on recently?

May 7, 2016 - 23:08

Justin Martin

Check'd

Argenigger here, no he wasn't. He was a totalitarian populist.

May 7, 2016 - 23:26

Jason Reyes

I know it'd be offtopic but i'm interested in the opinion from a leftypol argie. I'm living in Argentina at the moment so i've been kind of interested. Can you tell me more about Juan Peron from your perspective? I have Peronist and Macrist family members here so i've never heard anything from a leftist.

I see you're anarcho so i can guess some of the things you disliked.

May 8, 2016 - 00:26

Samuel Peterson

Gee, I wonder why

May 8, 2016 - 04:51

Angel Kelly

Another yuropoor here. Good luck, yankees.

Don't back down.

May 8, 2016 - 04:55

Mason James

Since it hadn't been mentioned. Bernie just gained a net 31 delegates in Washington after the congressional districts were calculates. It brings his delegate gap down to 292 delegates. West Virginia should bring it down signifigantly as well.

After that, Oregon and Kentucky. Oregon I suspect will bring him similar 65-70% leads like Washington and Kentucky will drag him down a bit but he will still gain a strong net delegate lead.

Also, youth/new voter registration is currently surging 150% higher than last month. Bernie wins new voters by huge margins. California is shaping up to be Bernie territory. Although right now polling wise he is doing good, we should remember he has had massive upsets like Indiana, Hawaii, Connecticut, where in the media overlooks it completely because it wasn't a big enough upset or it "doesn't make a difference at this point". Even if he doesn't win, it's shaping up to be getting more and more close, bringing more tension to the DNC.

……whispers of a dream…

May 8, 2016 - 07:02

Joseph Gomez

***youth/new voter registration in California is surging by 150%

May 8, 2016 - 07:03

Ayden Kelly

Not recently, but our "superdelegates" definitely violated our state committee bylaws when they failed to repudiate the Clinton campaign's claim several months ago that they had all pledged their loyalty to her. The bylaws outline that you're not supposed to use your office to endorse anyone until after the state convention but they effectively did it long before the caucus.

May 8, 2016 - 07:16

Zachary Jackson

California was always Bernie territory, the question is, how big is his gain from California going to be, and will the gap before we reach California shrink enough for it to put him over the top.

I wonder if the primaries were done with the most populous states first, and California had delivered a titanic Bernie lead on day 1, how the campaign would've played out?

May 8, 2016 - 08:10

Isaac Anderson

theguardian.com/us-news/2016/may/08/harvard-students-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-2016-election
archive.is/KjYRq
'I've been silent': Harvard's Clinton backers face life on a pro-Bernie campus

May 8, 2016 - 10:04

Justin Rogers

check your bernie privlige

May 8, 2016 - 10:12

Daniel Rivera

This is was Clintoids REALLY BELIEVE

May 8, 2016 - 10:15

Ryder Taylor

...

May 8, 2016 - 10:47

Xavier Moore

reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-idUSKCN0XZ0I3?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=Social

Good news in case we get a Trump presidency. I hope his current tax plan is out of date.

May 8, 2016 - 11:04

Elijah Sanchez

Imagine hearing such thing 5 years ago

May 8, 2016 - 11:18

Noah Garcia

Oh please trumps openly admitted to trying to get every bernie supporter he can

this is just another flipflop like he did with the TPP and Israel

May 8, 2016 - 11:24

Carter Hill

You can't really trust anything he says. But it's better for him to say to be for it than against it. It's a start.

May 8, 2016 - 11:26

Luke Morales

Yeah. 538 is still expecting wins for hill in West Virginia and CA, where no polling has indicated that will happen. 538 has become obsolete this primary though.

May 8, 2016 - 11:38

Nathan Martinez

good

May 8, 2016 - 11:41

Isaiah Mitchell

I wonder if these psychos can empathise with those young men that get accused of rape for just criticising SJWism.

May 8, 2016 - 11:43

Chase Cooper

>gifted Outsider in the White House for my birthday

May 8, 2016 - 11:59

Oliver Young

Sanders is too negative for me tbh

May 8, 2016 - 12:44

Jackson Robinson

...

May 8, 2016 - 12:47

Nathaniel Reyes

The rise of the libertarians is happening comrades. Perot effect is real.

May 8, 2016 - 23:21

Charles Taylor

The rise of the libertarians is happening comrades. Perot effect is real.

May 8, 2016 - 23:28

Ethan Morris

Reality is folks, if Sanders gets the nomination and Cruz folks defect to the lolberts, you just get a close election that would most likely result in a stalemate. Congress will be picking the president then. (And, that president is probably going to be Cruz or Shillary. Or some other establishment candidate.)

May 9, 2016 - 00:58

Wyatt Evans

Fuck, I meant Johnson with that picture. I need to get some sleep.

May 9, 2016 - 01:00

Lincoln Allen

USA: the country were libertarians are capitalist extremists who vote.

May 9, 2016 - 01:03

Elijah Ross

Fuck, screwed up again.

They would just vote in the most pro-establishment candidiate, which would be Johnson of the lolberts. We would end up with a lobert president.

May 9, 2016 - 01:18

Colton Stewart

$hillary for prison

May 9, 2016 - 01:31

Jordan Lee

Need an all-out witch hunt. Reverse-McCarthyism.

May 9, 2016 - 01:41

James Morris

I can only imagine the amount of Clintoids this triggered

May 9, 2016 - 07:19

Carson Butler

I don't see a problem with this.

May 9, 2016 - 08:04

Ian Ross

Bernie on CNN with Wolf Blitzer. Sanders is a master at interviews. A master debater, of sorts. :^)

youtube.com/watch?v=eGQObwmFWQE

That's only negative if you're gaming the system or benefiting from the status quo. Or if you're Trump. Same thing, really.

May 9, 2016 - 08:23

Ethan Bennett

Lmao. I've seen it before but for some reason this time I can't stop laughing. Maybe it's the smile on his face as it happens.

Don't let your dreams be dreams

May 9, 2016 - 08:41

Christian Ramirez

MULTIPLE TRUMP BUSINESSES FOUND IN THE PANAMA PAPERS

Even Trump tower is listed as a business comrades!

offshoreleaks.icij.org/

May 9, 2016 - 13:40

Josiah Morris

wew laddo

May 9, 2016 - 13:41

Xavier Price

Kasich is my favorite repub this cycle now kek

May 9, 2016 - 13:53

Isaac Davis

ANTI
ESTABLISHMENT
CANDIDATE

May 9, 2016 - 13:58

Alexander Gonzalez

AHAHAHA

May 9, 2016 - 14:06

Wyatt Morris

offshoreleaks.icij.org/search?utf8=✓&q=Soros&c=&j=&e=&commit=Search

May 9, 2016 - 14:41

Alexander Murphy

10/10

May 9, 2016 - 14:59

Gavin Moore

I wonder what pol thinks of this?

May 9, 2016 - 15:03

Ayden Cooper

offshoreleaks.icij.org/search?utf8=✓&q=sanders&c=&j=&e=&commit=Search

WITNESS THE POWER OF JEWISH BLOOD

May 9, 2016 - 15:11

Josiah Gray

Not to be a party pooper, but Trump doesn't own a single thing on that list, not even Trump Tower Capital LTD., according to this qz.com/461688/a-list-of-everything-donald-trump-runs-that-has-his-name-on-it/

May 9, 2016 - 15:20

Logan Reed

I'll give you the abbreviated response: SHILL SHILL SHILL CUCK CUCK CUCK CUCK SHILL CUCKING SHILLING CUCK

May 9, 2016 - 16:12

Anthony Walker

So are we doomed to Hillary vs Trump?

May 10, 2016 - 00:36

Hudson Jones

Hillary Clinton Courts Bush Mega-Donors Instead Of Bernie Voters

youtube.com/watch?v=NC0OIJzn2V4

Btw, where did everyone go? It's not like the Primary/Caucus elections are over yet.

Bernie interview with Rachel Maddow at his Vermont home:
youtube.com/watch?v=9V930FbK3ls

May 10, 2016 - 04:43

Ryan Reyes

It's very interesting to notice the difference in "tone" that Maddow shows, here. After helping to try & destroy the movement, she know laughs with him & seems much more respectful. Interesting.. Now that they feel they've won, they'll "throw the old man a bone"..

May 10, 2016 - 04:56

Levi James

Is there a primary today?

May 10, 2016 - 06:14

Adam Parker

Oh shit, apparently there is. I didn't even know..
reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/
This is where I go to find out the schedules, (top right hand corner). West Virginia has one today. They're traditionally pretty redneck, like my neck of the woods, KY. So if Sanders does well there, it would be a really good sign.

May 10, 2016 - 06:44

Nicholas Ward

usuncut.com/politics/bernie-sanders-sacramento-california/

"Media Silent as Bernie Sanders Packs California Stadium Beyond Capacity (PHOTOS)"

May 10, 2016 - 06:48

Matthew Rivera

washingtonpost.com/politics/how-donald-trump-is-running-to-the-left-of-hillary-clinton/2016/05/09/ebde82da-147c-11e6-8967-7ac733c56f12_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_trump-left-620pm:homepage/story

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May 10, 2016 - 07:17

Juan Roberts

Everybody is stealing his ideas now.

May 10, 2016 - 07:20

Anthony Miller

CNN: BERNIE SANDERS IS VIOLATING FIRE CODES IN CALIFORNIA JUST AS SUMMER ARRIVES.

May 10, 2016 - 07:26

Justin Evans

Latest polls show him 4 points up going into WV

May 10, 2016 - 07:29

Adam Williams

iscaliforniaonfire.com/

May 10, 2016 - 07:40

Oliver Baker

CNN:
BERNIE SANDERS VIOLATING FIRE CODE, AND CALIFORNIA ON FIRE - COINCIDENCE?

May 10, 2016 - 07:44

Christian Ross

For realz? Don't play with my emotions! That would be a great sign.

May 10, 2016 - 07:53

Mason Jackson

Tyler Pedigo predicts a close Bernie win 52-48.

May 10, 2016 - 07:55

Jayden Thomas

realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/wv/west_virginia_democratic_presidential_primary-5425.html

May 10, 2016 - 08:17

Jason Collins

Bamp

May 10, 2016 - 08:25

Nathaniel King

Now I wish the republicans would have nominated cruz, bernie could have run third party and won against the porky parties.

May 10, 2016 - 08:32

Samuel Morgan

They still might. They're retarded enough to try it. Also, Mitt Romney talked shit about running independent. Imagine.

May 10, 2016 - 09:00

Ryder Allen

Bernie Sanders: Tool Of Globalist Ruin (The Alex Jones Channel):
youtube.com/watch?v=ywU_0YkxDRA

May 10, 2016 - 09:22

Henry Barnes

LIVE COVERAGE OF ELECTION

youtu.be/WdsogOD-nPQ?t=82

STAY UPDATE

May 10, 2016 - 09:34

Ethan Adams

The comments give me hope. People are waking up and they smell bullshit.

May 10, 2016 - 09:36

Dominic Hall

THE TIME HAS COME, COMERADES
ALEX JONES WILL SOON AWAKEN TO SOCIALISM TO KEEP HIS VIEWERS

May 10, 2016 - 09:51

Luis Collins

...

May 10, 2016 - 10:23

Thomas Evans

embrace the second Clinton presidency

May 10, 2016 - 10:56

Chase Smith

Should I vote for Clinton? I live in a swing state. I am genuinely scared of a Trump presidency. The way I see it, Hillary at her worst would be Obama 2.0.

Trump is insane and the GOP controls congress. I hate Hillary but I'm afraid of what Trump would do.

May 10, 2016 - 10:58

Carson Sanchez

Hillary has come out against TPP and has rescinded her support of NAFTA, to be fair.

May 10, 2016 - 10:59

Brody Scott

And you believe her?

May 10, 2016 - 11:04

Chase Morgan

It's up to you.
I'm personally voting third party.
I think Trump wouldn't be much different aside from healthcare.
He might be more willing to use nukes, but I can't tell if that's bluster or not anymore.

May 10, 2016 - 11:06

Daniel Lee

Wait until it gets closer to the election to make your decision. If the polls in your state look like it's going to be close vs. Trump, then it's up to you to make that call. I personally would do it but many on here would say not to or that there's no difference. I think Trump at his worst would be Bush 2.0, so I suppose it's your choice of which 21st century President you hate least. On the other hand, if the polls look favorable towards Clinton (not improbable given how widely loathed Trump is), then you can vote third party with a clear conscience.

May 10, 2016 - 11:06

David Ramirez

youtube.com/watch?v=-dY77j6uBHI

May 10, 2016 - 11:22

Nolan Nelson

cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-recently-raised-more-wall-street-cash-than-all-other-candidates-combined/

May 10, 2016 - 12:30

Landon Mitchell

She said that those contributions don't influence her though. She's still going to get Wall Street to cut it out, don't worry.

May 10, 2016 - 13:35

Juan Ortiz

She has flip flopped and lied so much that I don't see how anyone can take "she changed her mind" to mean anything anymore. What if she changes her mind again later?

May 10, 2016 - 13:54

Carson Nguyen

No. Stop giving them the consent to fuck you already. It's the best time ever to have courage.

May 10, 2016 - 13:56

Jordan Davis

Ignore that post. I keep seeing it pop up saying basically the same thing. I'm pretty sure it's just someone fucking around or trolling.

May 10, 2016 - 14:05

Noah Baker

Trump is to the left of Hillary besides the wall and Muslim ban memes.

May 10, 2016 - 14:05

Lucas Nguyen

There is no difference between Clinton and Trump

May 10, 2016 - 14:07

Isaiah Torres

It's called the Barrier Breakers initiative

May 10, 2016 - 14:08

Isaiah Scott

Clinton has experience as a politician in raping and pillaging. Trump is a virgin.

May 10, 2016 - 14:12

David Roberts

Trump is LITTERALY what the people want him to be.

May 10, 2016 - 14:13

Colton Howard

KEK

May 10, 2016 - 14:14

Grayson Wright

This. Te major difference is that Trump has much less blood on his hands.

May 10, 2016 - 14:14

Noah Gonzalez

Also the fact that he's an anti-vaxxer

Then again I've met some leftist anti-vaxxers

May 10, 2016 - 14:17

Lucas Hernandez

test

May 10, 2016 - 14:20

Nolan Edwards

I've seen this name before. Just like Correct the Record, I assume.

May 10, 2016 - 14:20

Aaron Gray

correctrecord.org/barrier-breakers-2016-a-project-of-correct-the-record/

May 10, 2016 - 14:27

Tyler Flores

Lots of leftist anti-vaxxers. Like most issues, it's mostly a class thing.

May 10, 2016 - 14:29

Cooper Howard

Oh, so that's where the $1 million dollars went. Thanks for the info, user.

May 10, 2016 - 14:32

Andrew Ward

And I can't help but think of all the better uses this money could be put towards. Charities, etc.

May 10, 2016 - 14:41

Alexander Torres

I've been wondering this for a while now. He's such an outrageous caricature that it might be possible that he's just an entryist putting the final nail into the GOP coffin. He's always been somewhat of a liberal, votes democrat, and now he's fiscally more left than Clinton. That says A LOT. He never planned to run for president and then all of a sudden here he is, fucking things up for the GOP. Republicans are finished after this cycle given the increasing alienation of the voters over the last couple decades, climaxing with this primary.

May 10, 2016 - 14:42

Aiden Morgan

1 million dollars to pay people to argue with Bernie Bros on Twitter is a genius idea.

May 10, 2016 - 14:50

Thomas Baker

Someone should exploit picture related

May 10, 2016 - 14:53

Hudson Rogers

lmao, that gif

May 10, 2016 - 14:54

Ethan Ross

inthesetimes.com/article/19118/the-progressive-case-for-hillary-clinton-isnt-much-of-a-case-at-all
The Progressive Case For Hillary Clinton Isn’t Much of a Case At All
This is probably redundant as hell by now but w/ever

May 10, 2016 - 14:55

Jeremiah Morris

Hillary is literally unironically becoming Shillary

May 10, 2016 - 14:56

Mason Long

...

May 10, 2016 - 14:57

Lincoln Fisher

REMINDER THAT A FICTIONAL PARODY OF PUNDITS HAS A BETTER PREDICTION RECORD THAN NATE SILVER

washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/05/09/our-fictional-pundit-predicted-more-correct-primary-results-than-nate-silver-did/

May 10, 2016 - 15:26

Colton Bailey

Anybody stupid enough to be even mildly surprised by this turn of events ought to be shot.

May 10, 2016 - 16:02

William Torres

"Wall Street" cash isn't the same as cash.

Just in case somebody reads that wrong.

Hey, statistics isn't useless. It's just not as useful in this application and the way it's being applied. you sound like an anti-intellectualist

May 10, 2016 - 16:07

Cooper King

Except Nate Silver doesn't look at it from humans are logical computers perspective.
He looks at them as an aggregate function and uses inputs to predict outputs based on statistics on how people have pit instinct and reason against each other,, not individual logic.

May 10, 2016 - 16:10

Sebastian Hill

theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2016/may/10/west-virginia-nebraska-primaries-live-results

May 10, 2016 - 16:12

Oliver Campbell

Here we go, guys!

May 10, 2016 - 16:17

Luis Bailey

This is the point. It's not anti-intellectual to want the appropriate tools to be used for the circumstance.

I didn't say otherwise. The point is that statistics is a very broad and very new field that applies poorly to this are compared to instincts that evolved to discern exactly this kind of situation.

May 10, 2016 - 16:18

Anthony Foster

Man, I agree with the criticism, but fuck this dude for calling the primaries before they're done. It's not over til it's over.

May 10, 2016 - 16:19

William Scott

Instincts were not really evolved to deal with this situation. They were meant to deal with humans and society, but the humans and society they were meant to deal with have changed quite a bit faster than the instincts.

May 10, 2016 - 16:25

Sebastian Cruz

Humans are also heavily biased thinkers. If you want a candidate to win, you will predict them to win unless it's totally impossible.

May 10, 2016 - 16:27

Owen Sanders

Honestly, at this point, I think even Hillary supporters at this point should vote for Bernie, just as a referendum to tell Hillary to stop treating this like business as usual and expecting establishment conservatism to win out. Her campaign does not seem to get it, puts no effort into understanding their enemy, or the new political landscape.

The problem is most of her supports have the same exact attitude.

May 10, 2016 - 16:27

Brayden James

The instincts of social mammals are highly evolved to ascertain the group's sentiments. Doing so can be a matter of life and death when it comes to picking the winning side in a conflict.

May 10, 2016 - 16:28

Adrian Bailey

They were evolved for much smaller groups of people and people with much fewer means and abilities that current people.

There's a reason why sociopaths can climb so high on the ladder in today's world, even thought they wouldn't in a smaller tribal hunter-gatherer setting.

May 10, 2016 - 16:30

Liam Cooper

fixed

May 10, 2016 - 16:33

Brandon Collins

Her attitude seems to be "I'm up millions of votes over senator Sanders" implicitly saying "Why should I change anything to appeal to his supporters? I got this already :DD"

May 10, 2016 - 16:38

Robert White

Yes it does, and she's probably going to take her campaign that way into general unless she realizes how stupid that is.

May 10, 2016 - 16:40

Luke Nguyen

...

May 10, 2016 - 17:01

Ayden Russell

everytime

May 10, 2016 - 17:03

Connor Gutierrez

Sanders sent a victory email out already.

May 10, 2016 - 17:05

Noah Taylor

They count early votes first which are always Clinton heavy.

May 10, 2016 - 17:07

Carter Moore

MSNBC projecting Bernie in West Virginia

May 10, 2016 - 17:08

Hudson Evans

...

May 10, 2016 - 17:10

Aiden Perez

...

May 10, 2016 - 17:10

William Stewart

tbh I'm surprised they're not pre-emptively counting her electoral votes.

May 10, 2016 - 17:11

Joshua Cooper

I'm surprised that they're not calling her President Clinton already.

May 10, 2016 - 17:14

Jeremiah Edwards

>right next to the number of delegates required to win

May 10, 2016 - 17:15

Cooper Wood

*number of pledged delegates required to win outright

May 10, 2016 - 17:16

William Gray

It's like they are implying something.

May 10, 2016 - 17:16

Matthew Thomas

It's almost as if they want people to think it's over already, and that they should be good democrats and come over to Hillary for party unity. They wouldn't be purposely misleading voters towards the candidate they have financial connections to, would they?

May 10, 2016 - 17:21

Noah Perez

I don't know if I've said this here before, but at the start of the election, I was at least sympathetic towards Clinton and was possibly voting for her in some crisis scenario.

Now? I fucking hate her and her supporters. I prefer fascists and reactionaries over them; at least they have the decency to stab you in the front.

May 10, 2016 - 17:23

Brayden Myers

checked
And with Trump everyone knows we're getting a crazy narcissist. With Hillary at least half the population just sees her as a standard issue politician. People will oppose Trump (even Republicans) if he wins. If it's Hillary we'll get more partisan bullshit for 4-8 years and the same shit is going to go on that already has.

At least Trump would admit to killing families and torturing, unlike Hillary who would do it and lie about it.

May 10, 2016 - 17:26

Ryan Sullivan

Same here. I think I felt alright towards Shills just because the name was familiar and she didn't seem like a terrible person. Who could be worse than Trump? Apparently, Shills. This primary cycle has demonstrated that she's a horrible, horrible person and so are her delusional followers. It's almost like they take a perverse pleasure in fucking up people's lives or something. At least racist, reactionary Trump supporters don't pretend to be otherwise; Shill and her supporters doing the most to fuck you up the ass, but with this pretentious, arrogant rhetoric claiming it's in your best interest. They're passive aggressive nutjobs with the potential to do more damage than Trump ever could precisely because people think this should be "typical" politics. Fuck out here with that shit I ain't having no more of it.

May 10, 2016 - 17:30

Charles Howard

Trump will say anything to get into office. There's very little to indicate he'd actually be that horrible.

Hillary, however, has a proven track record of discouraging women, opposing civil rights for all, supporting coups in the third world and bombing the middle east.

Trump is a wildcard. By all indication Hillary is going to be a Terrible Maggie Thatcher.

Now the thing is; do we expect Trump to be less awful? At least he's not bought.

May 10, 2016 - 17:30

Sebastian Martinez

BUT HE IS PART OF THE CLASS THAT DOES THE BUYING

Why do people keep on saying that he's not bought like it means anything?

May 10, 2016 - 17:33

Logan Scott

google.com/amp/www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/amp/sanders-wins-west-virginia-democratic-primary-n571356#

May 10, 2016 - 17:34

Isaiah Garcia

What's worse? One porky as president? Or every porky telling the president what to do?

May 10, 2016 - 17:36

Cooper Moore

Yea he may not be money in politics but he is money IS politics

May 10, 2016 - 17:37

Hunter Diaz

Pretty sure he is bought by the Jews.

Does anyone make it big in business without selling out to other people in business? Making it in business means lots of mutually beneficial transactions with other business people. Quid pro quo is the standard, not the exception in the private sector.

May 10, 2016 - 17:37

Nicholas Nelson

Yeah, I get that, but at least with Trump you know who he represents; himself.

There is nothing face-to-face about Hillary. I can't see the people she represents. I don't know them, I don't know what their opinions are or what they want.
It does certainly matter in the in terms of transperancy.

I'm not saying "vote Trump".
I'm saying that you doing necessarily have to vote against him, since he might not be that much worse than Hillary.

May 10, 2016 - 17:38

Cameron Bailey

One porky as president with his porky buddies asking for favors.

May 10, 2016 - 17:40

Easton Fisher

I'm not risking my civil liberties, disenfranchisement, and a lifetime appointment to the supreme court on a gamble. I can't fight against societal and economic injustices in the world if my civil liberties and impugned. If that means Hillary wins, whatever, she wins.

May 10, 2016 - 17:41

Benjamin Thomas

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May 10, 2016 - 17:42

Aaron Thompson

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May 10, 2016 - 17:42

Lincoln James

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May 10, 2016 - 17:43

Anthony Nguyen

What are you trying to convey here?

May 10, 2016 - 17:43

Jason Jackson

I don't think that there's much of a difference, tbqh.

Eh I guess i can get that logic, even if it is flawed. He is still tied to not doing stuff that would hurt his business interests, and that means pleasing porkies that he deals with, to a certain extent.

This.

May 10, 2016 - 17:43

Asher Fisher

Oh wait I think I got it, contradictions in conservative thought.

May 10, 2016 - 17:43

Christian Morales

No she isn't. Scalia 2.0 is a bigger threat to my civil liberties than a moderate center-left justice.

May 10, 2016 - 17:45

Luke Cox

Hillary is a hell of a lot worse than Trump. Hillary is going to do more shit like Libya which her emails make apparent and we'll without a doubt get TPP. Trump will keep us out of TPP, that alone is worth voting for him.

May 10, 2016 - 17:45

Ayden Martinez

For the record the 9% "other" is protest votes for an ex-con named Judd, for those of you wondering

May 10, 2016 - 17:46

Jack Powell

Sorry, this talking point isn't valid anymore. Obama just nominated a conservative to replace Scalia, what makes you think Hillary will nominate anyone remotely liberal?

May 10, 2016 - 17:47

Angel Lee

Again, this is just what he's said so far. Let's not look at what the candidates say. Talk is cheap. He's always been a liberal when nothing was at stake.
Let's look at deed.
Even then, he's already pivoting to the left. Hard.

Let's not forget that Clinton and Obama has extended PATRIOT and violated civil liberties by executing american citiziens without due process. Let us not forget that they support a surpreme court judge that supports citizens united.
Let us not forget that Obama has deported record numbers of illegal immigrants and expanded signature drone-strikes in the middle-east.

You think you have a choice, but when you judge Hillary by her actions, and not the stuff she pays lip-service to, then I see no fucking difference between what Trump says he'd be and what we know Hillary to be.

May 10, 2016 - 17:47

Connor Ross

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May 10, 2016 - 17:47

Jaxon Phillips

That's… interesting. Can you elaborate further?

May 10, 2016 - 17:49

Tyler Campbell

tl;dr all the stuff Trump promises to do is just what the establishment has already been doing for years.

May 10, 2016 - 17:49

Kevin Lee

The fact that Trump said he would nominate another Scalia, who has always been one of my least favorite people in the world.

The lesser of two evils is still lesser. I don't like it, but I don't want another Scalia at any cost. Fortunately there may be other elections where there's no supreme court vacancy and I can just vote or not to make a statement.

Garland was nominated as a political gambit specifically to call Republicans on their bluff.

May 10, 2016 - 17:50

Julian Walker

Four score and seven years ago he made a breakout performance by getting almost half of the West Virginia delegates in the democratic primaries because WV was butthurt about coal. They're still butthurt so those who think both candidates would hurt their jobs vote for him.

May 10, 2016 - 17:51

Wyatt Turner

What the fuck kind of math is this?

May 10, 2016 - 17:54

Brayden Long

That what I'm saying. There's nothing to indicate that Hillary is actually a lesser evil except for media memes telling you to obey, consume and sleep.

Hell, Garlan is a GIANT conservative on almost every issue. And he was appointed by Obama who's slightly to the left of Clinton.

You think it's a real choice, but it's not. It really doesn't matter. Stop giving your consent. Vote third party or vote Bernie as a write-in.

Get organized on the local level, because it does not matter whether Trump or Hillary wins.

Actually, I believe that Trump might be less dangerous, because he takes less money from Wall-street, who are a really dangerous power-house in American politics. His interests are not the exact same as them.

May 10, 2016 - 17:56

Nathaniel Barnes

lot's of 3rd party candidates in WV. Like keith judd is a pro-life crazy guy who puts his name on the ballot.

The same thing happened in Oklahoma where Bernie won 50-40 bc 10% of the vote was for "literallywho"s

May 10, 2016 - 17:59

Asher Clark

She hasn't said she'd nominate another Scalia, not does she have any reason to. She might not nominate a super liberal judicial activism nominee, but yes, I do have reason, her representing Democratic party establishment, she won't nominate another Scalia.

Not Obama's first pick. Again, it was a political gambit to call a bluff, and change approval/disapproval ratings.

To me it does.

Refusing to give consent is not somehow more useful between picking between two things you don't like. Not giving consent is not a real choice, it changes nothing and doesn't even have a fraction of the effect.

You're free to be charmed by the snake oil salesman who has a published book on how he cons people.

May 10, 2016 - 18:03

Jackson Taylor

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May 10, 2016 - 18:05

Aiden Wright

kek

May 10, 2016 - 18:06

Logan Parker

No it isn't.
This is the "he's just playing three dimensional chess"-excuse. I have seen this over and over. I think the first time was when he scrapped the single-payer for "the public option".
Because of his genius political manipulation, we ended up with a health-care plan thought up by Mitt Romney.

He has caved in to conservatives his entire political career. Hillary will do the same.
The democrats in congress are fucking pussies and will grant the congressional republican anything they want.

There is nothing to indicate that Hillary will nominate anyone who will protect your civil rights any more than Trump's candidate.

But hell, feel free to believe that perpetuating the system will help anything.

May 10, 2016 - 18:09

Gabriel Lewis

You guys seem to either be shilling hard for Trump, or seem to forget that Obama has had another SCOTUS nominee, Sotomayor who dissented on Citizens United, and Trump, who has said he'd nominate another Scalia, was in concurrence on Citizens United.

Garland is purely a product of calling a bluff. Republicans said they'd block Obama because he wouldn't nominate someone like Garland. Obama called that bluff, and Republicans still won't vote for him, and it caused damage in downticket elections for Republicans.

May 10, 2016 - 18:12

Nathaniel Martin

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May 10, 2016 - 18:16

Elijah Morris

I'll take my chances with the shill that presents D party interests, doing what the D party does to pander to it's constituents, than someone who explicitly said they'd nominate another Scalia to pander to R party constituents.

May 10, 2016 - 18:19

Austin Taylor

Truly a master at the game of politics.

May 10, 2016 - 18:19

Gavin Sanchez

They will still massively violate your civil right though.
Any change will be cosmetic at best.

May 10, 2016 - 18:20

Wyatt Williams

Okay… and how does this change that Garland is still the nominee?

wew

May 10, 2016 - 18:23

Ryder Wilson

If they confirm him before general, then it becomes a non-issue.

If they don't confirm him and Hillary wins, they overplayed their hand.

As long as the seat is vacant, it's a point, when it isn't vacant, it stops being a point.

I'll still vote for the cosmetic change, because that's not any less effective than doing a write-in. If I follow your logic, everything is equally pointless, so there's no loss to me if I do vote.

May 10, 2016 - 18:23

Luke Young

Because the GOP is taking downticket damage to prolong the issue.

May 10, 2016 - 18:24

Henry Diaz

You could also vote third party and have a chance at having the Green party get federal funding. That'd do a lot to end the two-party hegemony.

No, they wouldn't.
Hillary would nominate someone they'd like even more. She's more right-wing than Obama and even more prone to sell out.

May 10, 2016 - 18:26

Jason Brown

That doesn't change Garland being the nominee.

May 10, 2016 - 18:26

Parker Murphy

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May 10, 2016 - 18:28

Cooper Lee

As long as SCOTUS is an issue, I'm not voting green.

Garland being nominee is a non-issue until he is confirmed. At that point when Hillary is on the verge of winning anyways without my vote, and the GOP confirms him before Hillary steps into office, then you can tell me "told you so" and I'll change my vote. But the only way the GOP is going to rush his confirmation is if Hillary is going to win anyways.

I'd vote for Bernie.

May 10, 2016 - 18:33

Jonathan Jackson

Correct the Record isn't going to like this

May 10, 2016 - 18:34

Zachary Murphy

But Clinton has already said she will support the nomination of Garland.
So it's all but confirmed.
Say hi to David Brock for me.

May 10, 2016 - 18:34

Jace Morales

...

May 10, 2016 - 18:36

Zachary Myers

Where is the best place to watch shillary drones go crazy? Twitter? Reddit? Facebook? Holla Forums?

May 10, 2016 - 18:36

Camden Rivera

Wow and so they elect Garlan, who's a right-winger and and establishment hardliner.
What a win. So much was accomplished.

May 10, 2016 - 18:37

Samuel Barnes

Still would take Garland over another Scalia. I told you, I'll consider voting for your green party when there's no SCOTUS nominee in play. The only way that's going to happen this election cycle is if Hillary is going to win with or without my vote. In fact shilling for Hillary and guaranteeing he presidency would open up my vote to be used for green.

May 10, 2016 - 18:39

Robert Williams

Twitter probably, usually you find banter going on if you search for the relevant hashtags.

May 10, 2016 - 18:40

Thomas Clark

What a win. So much was accomplished.

May 10, 2016 - 18:41

Bentley Robinson

Why?
How is Garlan truly any better than Scalia in a way that means we should perpetuate the two-party system for another 4 years?

May 10, 2016 - 18:43

Brandon Johnson

k

May 10, 2016 - 18:43

Jaxon Hughes

Please show me the math where you calculate it to be 4 years.

I could literally write a check and have the equivalent of two votes.

May 10, 2016 - 18:46

Wyatt Walker

Presidential elections are four years inbetween as far as I recall. And what if the SCOTUS is in question then too? Do we perpetuate it even further?

May 10, 2016 - 18:47

Hunter Morris

Not surprising at all that a Shill supporter thinks like this tbh.

May 10, 2016 - 18:48

Jace Anderson

West Virginia is called for Bernie

May 10, 2016 - 18:49

Dylan Anderson

That's a very crude calculation. You're implying that it will cause a straight out delay, because there's a standard linear progression that requires a standard amount of time after funding requirements are met.

Filthy prole worker poorfag. Stop infringing on my muh privileged bourgeois pseudo-liberalism.

May 10, 2016 - 18:52

Sebastian Roberts

14/24=58%

Not feeling the Bern.

May 10, 2016 - 18:53

Xavier Rodriguez

the memes you meme end up memeing you

May 10, 2016 - 18:54

Justin Evans

reminder that Trump is the most "Jewish" candidate

May 10, 2016 - 18:56

Dominic Rogers

Apparently Holla Forums bumplocks your threads if you bring that up

May 10, 2016 - 18:58

Julian Rogers

nice meme

May 10, 2016 - 18:58

Brody Bennett

Holla Forums why do you insist on these transparent baits?

May 10, 2016 - 18:59

Jace Perez

a trump presidency is the most fitting punishment Holla Forums could ever receive

they will vote for the most pro-israel, most jewish candidate simply because they're beta cucks in awe of an alpha male personality

May 10, 2016 - 19:01

David Richardson

but remember, We're the torture chamber.

May 10, 2016 - 19:01

Blake Watson

facebook.com/JerryWhiteSEP/videos/123756371366960/

Jerry White, Socialist Equality Party candidate, speaks on Obama's visit to Flint.

May 10, 2016 - 19:02

Brayden Cox

why'd you post PPD

May 10, 2016 - 19:02

Angel Garcia

It's not bait.
They truly believe we are a tumblr outpost

May 10, 2016 - 19:04

Jaxson Kelly

they're retards who think the world is memes

May 10, 2016 - 19:04

James Ross

This. Their understanding of leftism is AIDS Skrillex.

May 10, 2016 - 19:06

Ethan Phillips

The world is memes, and if you think otherwise, you're a sheeple.

May 10, 2016 - 19:06

Isaac Young

memebrain

May 10, 2016 - 19:08

William James

...

May 10, 2016 - 19:10

Chase White

It's good, because they can not defeat us that way.
They are fighting what they are projecting on us.

May 10, 2016 - 19:12

Jeremiah Hughes

Indeed. To conquer something, you must understand it.

May 10, 2016 - 19:14

Benjamin Nelson

I wouldn't be too confident. Although they can never totally destroy us, they could cause a lot of destruction. Hitler did not understand the world, he still managed to destroy sizable portions of it.

May 10, 2016 - 19:27

Dylan Price

thenation.com/article/why-bernie-didnt-get-my-vote/
archive.is/Uh4sr
Why Bernie Didn’t Get My Vote
find me a worse example of liberal identity politics.
protip: you can't.

May 10, 2016 - 19:29

Blake Lopez

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May 10, 2016 - 19:31

Nolan Clark

This shit makes me want to die.

May 10, 2016 - 19:33

Angel Wright

He sat upon an industrial power-house and still failed. Had it not been for his delusions of grandeur and race-quackery, Germany could easily have taken much of Western Europe.

May 10, 2016 - 19:34

Jaxson Gray

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May 10, 2016 - 19:35

Samuel Lewis

Germany lost against the allies specifically because it was not an industrial powerhouse that could go against the industrial output of either the USSR or the US.

May 10, 2016 - 19:36

Aiden Brown

Global capitalism was out to destroy him.

How can Germany fight back the UK, USA, and USSR at once?

May 10, 2016 - 19:36

Gabriel Gonzalez

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

May 10, 2016 - 19:36

Thomas Lopez

What a good gall. She knows her place and submits to the great tribe.

May 10, 2016 - 19:36

Gabriel Harris

fuck you

May 10, 2016 - 19:36

Mason Reyes

Fuck the gulag. Into the furnace it goes.

May 10, 2016 - 19:38

Austin Kelly

Screencapped and posted in the berniebros thread of a certain popular forum.

May 10, 2016 - 19:38

Isaiah Peterson

If Hitler had simply dropped dead early after acquiring power, Germany would probably rule all of Eastern Europe. The West was prepared to hand it to them so they could provide a buffer between the USSR and Western Europe. Many bourgeois Jews were initially optimistic about Hitler - they thought he was just going to get rid of the "bad Bolshevik Jews, not us good German Jews". And if he had just done that, he would never have drawn the antagonism of the West. This is the danger of believing your own propaganda. It makes you behave in insane ways.

May 10, 2016 - 19:39

Austin White

Hitler could have avoided that at the time. The war against the USSR was the blunder of the century.

May 10, 2016 - 19:39

Joseph Bell

And, like, don't white men only have their social and economic power because of class and thus capitalism? I mean, they're the majority of CEO's and politicians…. If we didn't live in a society ruled by money, the wealthy who are overwhelmingly white men thanks to more capitalism back in the day when only white men could be businessmen and politicians (which required one to own property)…. I'm not expressing myself very articulately but boy am I heated.

May 10, 2016 - 19:41

Angel Allen

Where's the other version?

you forgot your anfem flag

May 10, 2016 - 19:45

Caleb Martin

inorite? Class comes about because white men are racist, and when people are divided by class it determines the fundamental structure of the economy which sets the material conditions of society. :^)

May 10, 2016 - 19:47

Brody Gonzalez

Not really, the USSR wanted to conquer Germans one way or another. They simply didn't have a choice in the matter.

The main enemy, though, was capitalism. USSR should have considered France, the UK and USA the main enemies of socialism.

May 10, 2016 - 19:47

Wyatt Price

Pretty much. Plenty of white-skinned men did not have this power; they were also not considered "white." "Whiteness" ultimately boils down to economic power and historically, it has been one of the only means for those with darker skin to have any social mobility. Even today we have tons of poor white men. This should be obvious evidence against race or gender being fundamental organizing principles and that there's something implied about that whole "poor" business, but you know…idpol is one hell of a drug.

May 10, 2016 - 19:51

Gabriel Carter

Think of it like this: when you shine a light on the economic basis of society, the ruling classes become terrified. They don't even need to call a meeting, they'll begin a coordinated propaganda effort out of sheer instinct. Why was this article published? The "progressive" politics of the article are incidental, its function is to move people away from any economic or class based analysis of society. It was published because it portrays class politics as negligent and unethical. Sanders has been using class and economic arguments from day one, and its the territory where he's most comfortable. The ruling class does not want these kinds of discussions, even in a moderate social democratic form. A discussion about identity, on the other hand, is much safer. They're happy to give it space in print for the same reason they're happy to print horoscopes. Don't worry too much about erroneous arguments. You can get frustrated and try to work out their flawed logic, but it would be a waste of energy. You don't try to reason with a fist in your face and you shouldn't try to reason with propaganda.

May 10, 2016 - 19:59

Justin Turner

I'm not saying sexism and racism are above classism, I'm just saying they're run-off from classism. If you want to attack racism and sexism, the only way to get to the heart of it is by attacking capitalism. Anything else is entirely superficial.

I like this post.
The Irish, Slavs, Jewish people, East Asians…. East Asian still aren't seen exactly as white, but they're seen as closer to whiteness thanks to many immigrants being wealthy or at least middle class and educated. They don't suffer from poverty at the same rates that black or Latino Americans. I like how you put it. Succinct!

Exactly. I didn't mean to gloss over them, I was trying to say the powerful are the rich and the rich are overwhelmingly white and male. What good does it really do to go after a poor white guy just barely scraping by? Absolutely none.

Precisely! Thanks. They'd rather have "porky is more diverse" than "porky is nonexistent", especially if having a racially/gender diverse bourgeoisie and products to sell becomes safer or more profitable.

May 10, 2016 - 20:12

Brandon Ramirez

If power + muh privilege = Xism mantra is to be believed, where does that muh privilege come from if not class?

Explain South Asians (Indians, generally well off financially, and other brown people frequently mistaken for Arabs), and explain why many SEAs (Cambodians, Hmong, Laotian and Vietnamese) who lots of whites could not distinguish from East Asians tend to have awful poverty rates.

May 10, 2016 - 20:17

Justin Phillips

I was just being snarky. ;^)

Pretty good points too. Muh muh privilege is something that is earned or inherited/given. No one can, or should, but they do anyway, claim that an entire race has muh muh privilege based on the skin color and genitals the elites happen to have. If the elites happened to be black trans women, well, they would blab on about them being muh muh privileged. It's a cycle that would never end. Unless they discovered class is ultimately what determines whether people will be subjugated. Everything else is ancillary. There is no 'muh muh privilege gene'.

May 10, 2016 - 20:27

Parker Thomas

The "privilage" BS only exists in US and western europe (especialy SocDems).
They try to spread it to non "1st world" coutries, but it's not as effective, as said countries tend to have actual left.

May 10, 2016 - 20:27

Jayden Cook

The Asian issue is a perfect recent example of the "whiteness" of capital. What people consider schematically "Asian" just so happens to be those countries who played by the rules and were somewhat successful becoming Westernized and adopting capitalism: South Korea, Japan, and increasingly, China. The more successful they were, the more "white" they seem (especially Japan and now, more and more, South Korea). They're seen as success stories and culturally, they're seen as "model minorities" as a result. Asians like Cambodians, Filipinos, Vietnamese, Laotian, etc. ("Brown" Asians) do not fit the narrative and so they're marginalized; indeed they're "Brown" or "darker" because they didn't play by the rules of capital. It has little to do with skin color–most people won't be able to tell the difference between them. It's about economic power.

It reminds me of this: youtube.com/watch?v=d_CaZ4EAexQ. That's the power of narrative.

May 10, 2016 - 20:28

Jeremiah Gonzalez

JAPAN IS WHITE! Compared to Indians THEY ARE FUCKING BLEACED!
What is genes?
Same as Asians cannot tell the difference between other races.

What has color to do with economic power?

YOU MESH EVERYTHING UP AND MISS THE POINT!

May 10, 2016 - 20:33

Ian Garcia

SJW basically admitted that Bernie got the real meaning of leftism.
AND THAT HE IS WRONG FOR THAT, XAXAXAXAXAXA CYKA

May 10, 2016 - 20:34

Kevin Rivera

Last time I checked, the other brown Asians, South Asians, not SEAs, are perfectly well off financially, and discriminated against for being non-white terrorists.

If I remember correctly, Asian Indians are better off than Chinese-Americans, Korean-Americans, and Japanese-Americans in average income.

May 10, 2016 - 20:34

Connor Martinez

PS. India is a major economic power, you know…

May 10, 2016 - 20:34

Ian Martinez

Indians also have the highest incomes among Asian Americans.

May 10, 2016 - 20:37

Dylan Walker

One of the comments…

May 10, 2016 - 20:39

Blake Anderson

that's good stuff you got there

May 10, 2016 - 20:43

Camden Perry

Institutional behavior can give pretty much an entire race muh privilege. It's about historical muh privileged given has granted disproportionate advantages, and whether you think that form of judgement means the advantages granted were legitimate.

May 10, 2016 - 20:46

Zachary Garcia

Ridiculous to think that the entirety of any country is homogenous in skin tone. There are plenty of dark Japanese as well as lighter-skinned Indians, idiot. The "whiter" Japanese are actually more likely to have Ainu genes (i.e., they're not really "Japanese").

They're intertwined. Read up on the Wages of Whiteness and how skin color (i.e., "whiteness") modulates class-oppression. Class first and then other factors to sustain it.

Indians are a weird case. On one hand, they're respected welcomed in some fields and on another, they're looked down upon and distrusted. All I can guess is that it's perhaps due to how obvious the class conflict is in India and that by acknowledging their successes is also to acknowledge the contradictions of capitalism. In this way they're more like the Chinese, who we fuck with but distrust. Maybe it's because China keeps demonstrating how fucked up capitalism can be. There's also the issue of rampant ignorance in the US, so I wouldn't be surprised if they were confusing Indians with muh terrorists; I'm not saying skin-color isn't important in its own right, just that it's modulated by money. It's not like the "white" Asians are completely accepted. They will never truly be "white"; they'll only be models for other minorities to emulate–models in the sense that they establish themselves as evidence of capitalism's success. They can strive to be "western" and earn their "whiteness."

May 10, 2016 - 20:53

Thomas Nelson

Here's the original for reference.

May 10, 2016 - 21:04

Blake Thomas

Yikes. This is what we mean when we say "idpol done wrong tricks people into thinking class is more important than race".
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By the way, it's way too early to give up even if we don't get the delegates we're hoping for. If we get 55% instead of 65%, it will be a 200 delegap (eh?) and if the superdelegates actually give a shit about electability many of them will go to him regardless, especially if Clinton has a disaster between now and then which is very likely. At this point it looks like the DOJ is letting the primaries finish before indicting her. But anyway, he can still win and I'd argue it's the more likely outcome at this point. Phonebanking and shilling just helps it be more certain.
But just in case we get cucked at the convention (especially if we won in unpledged delegates) I'll be listening to "In the End".

Durrr.
Most of these are stupid and I think we don't need ultra-specific labels for nonbinary genders but this looks like it was made by someone who denies that they exist.

May 10, 2016 - 21:28

Charles Taylor

Race and gender have been used as de facto classes for millennia.

May 10, 2016 - 21:33

Elijah Jackson

Bernie won a big victory in Logan County, site of one of the most notable labor uprisings in American history

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain

Excited for a big victory in Harlan County Kentucky next week!

May 10, 2016 - 21:35

Asher Morris

jesus dude change avatar this girl is annoying af

May 10, 2016 - 21:37

Austin Flores

i have a few dozen that i rotate between to keep it diverse

May 10, 2016 - 21:40

Ryder Cooper

I want to cut off your arms so you can't post anymore.

May 10, 2016 - 21:41

Camden Scott

There's another reason not to give up yet. Even if Bernie loses, the narrower his margin of loss, the greater the prestige other entryists will have for more winnable lower-level elections, and the more leverage supporters of Bernie's platform will have in pressuring Democrats to adopt his policies.

May 10, 2016 - 21:49

Isaiah Richardson

Do all these airheads completely forget that Gerald Ford was president for like 3 years with literally no qualifications unless you count a very boring Representative tenure and did a fairly shitty job but par for the course for modern Republicans?
Oh wait they don't care.

May 10, 2016 - 22:29

Carson Smith

Why does anyone even believe this? TPP is absolutely in a porky like Trump's best interest.

May 10, 2016 - 22:52

Zachary Murphy

If anything, he'll renegotiate with other porkies quid pro quo to get himself in on some of that TPP action.

May 10, 2016 - 22:55

Ethan Lewis

5% of the vote and the Green Party qualifies for federal funding. A significant portion of the vote can make them a real political power for once and/or tell the Democratic party that they can either stop ignoring their progressive/socialist elements or suffer the consequences. Stop being a coward and stand up for yourself for once. It is entirely within Hillary's interests to nominate another fucker just like Garland. Do you understand that it is her campaign that has benefited more from the Citizens United v Clinton ruling that any other campaign this election cycle?

May 10, 2016 - 23:00

Mason Perez

You DO realize that Ford only ended up in office because he was VP while Nixon was chased from the presidency by an almost unprecedented scandal, and only VP because Spiro Agnew fled the position earlier due to his own scandalous corruption. After that, when Ford had to face his first ever elections, he only narrowly beat out Reagan in the Republican primaries before losing to Carter.

May 10, 2016 - 23:04

Wyatt Robinson

I could just as easily vote for Trump if all I wanted was to fracture the current system.

May 10, 2016 - 23:05

Thomas Young

At this point I am convinced some of these fuckers would vote for Margaret Thatcher if given the chance.

May 10, 2016 - 23:10

Gavin Hall

Hillary lost every single county in West Virginia

Why is the Appalachian region so full of those sexist Bernie Bros?

May 10, 2016 - 23:13

Matthew Jackson

I heard there are no neutrals there.

May 10, 2016 - 23:16

Wyatt Rogers

...

May 10, 2016 - 23:32

Christopher King

They don't call it West VIRGINia for nothing hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

May 10, 2016 - 23:32

Anthony Morgan

i'm done

May 10, 2016 - 23:40

Zachary Rodriguez

meant to post this in a new thread but it's not that important i guess

May 10, 2016 - 23:41

Jacob Bailey

cant stop laughing as i write this post in response

May 10, 2016 - 23:41

Dominic Richardson

I don't even know anymore. I just want to break down and cry.

May 10, 2016 - 23:44

Lincoln Wilson

what the fuck

May 10, 2016 - 23:49

Henry Moore

...

May 10, 2016 - 23:51

Justin Gomez

I'm not sure about right now, but recently at least Kerala had a communist local government. Many even name their kids after the leaders.
Pic related is Udhayanidhi Stalin, is a grandson of a popular politician. (He also used his connections to get into the southern Indian film industry, which is hilarious because he suuucks).
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenin_Rajendran
Lenin Rajendran is a popular film director & screenwriter in south India, too. I'm starting to think it's more prevalent in the south.

I just learned about this kind of recently. But there are a good amount of communists here & they're not shy about it, either. I can see posters & boards with communist symbols on it when going down the road. It's very interesting.

May 11, 2016 - 03:29

Ryan Rogers

C'mon Harlan County!

If anyone hasn't seen the documentary "Harlan County, USA", I highly recommend it. It's amazing that nowadays you can find people defending the coal companies, because they need the job. When before you'd curse the company publicly, not fight for them or defend them. It's like they've forgotten what their kinfolk went through & fought for.

Some still get it, though. If Bernie wins in KY, I will be soooo happy. West Virginia gives me hope.

Also, webm is Pete Seeger, not Guthrie. I need to change it.

May 11, 2016 - 03:35

Carter Stewart

Well "dark" is the right description for sure.

May 11, 2016 - 03:43

Hudson Clark

WV is an island

May 11, 2016 - 03:45

Robert Foster

And no one sees a problem with this? Lmao. Completely contradictory.

May 11, 2016 - 03:48

Adrian Wright

Civil War when?

May 11, 2016 - 03:48

Ayden Stewart

idiot

May 11, 2016 - 03:49

Joseph Stewart

poopyface

May 11, 2016 - 03:51

Bentley Bailey

There's a reason it split off from VA in the first place. The terrain is very mountainous, making industry there dependent on mining. Thus they gave zero shits about slaves since you can't have plantations there. The coal miner comments she made cemented her loss.

May 11, 2016 - 04:20

Ethan Johnson

Daily reminder that Bernout would have won the primary if the whole country was white.

May 11, 2016 - 06:11

Hunter Sanders

If the whole country was white, we'd just be tearing each other apart exactly like now, except with a "privileged" WASP majority, and "oppressed" mostly Catholic/Jewish minorities like Irish, Italian, and Polish.

May 11, 2016 - 06:34

Julian Ross

Daily reminder that some people actually think this.

Btw, the primary elections are not over. Seems Hillary thinking that they are has hurt her in Indiana & WV. But I'm sure she would've lost those anyway; the workers there are fed up.

May 11, 2016 - 06:59

Henry Perez

The mantra is "power + prejudice" (power + muh privilege is like saying power + power), not muh privilege. But you are correct.

May 11, 2016 - 07:15

Ryder Howard

Daily reminder that Bernie won Hawaii, the most diverse state in the nation. Go fuck yourself.

May 11, 2016 - 08:58

Ayden Roberts

Bernout has won the white vote in every state; would've won the south of Canadians didn't have the franchise.

May 11, 2016 - 09:34

Ethan Sanchez

:^)

May 11, 2016 - 09:37

Henry Bennett

Yeah. Nobody liked him and he was generally shit, but he wasn't a colossal fuckup. Bernie seems competent because he is, and Hillary is hardly more qualified anyway

The only other time this has happened is Vermont with Sanders, Mississippi with Clinton and Alabama with Trump.
And Trump won.

May 11, 2016 - 09:39

Dylan Garcia

Eh, I've seen racism=power+privilege+prejudice.

As a universalist this ticks me off.

May 11, 2016 - 09:44

Daniel Parker

He also won Michigan, which has a large black population :^)

May 11, 2016 - 09:59

Anthony King

At least my neighbors are sensible.

May 11, 2016 - 10:00

Easton Murphy

lol what

May 11, 2016 - 10:02

Ayden Cox

He lost with blacks in Michigan though.

May 11, 2016 - 10:02

Tyler Garcia

He also would have won if the whole country was Native.
Guess you need to go back, Hans :^)

May 11, 2016 - 10:02

Nathaniel Evans

based sexists

May 11, 2016 - 10:10

Nathaniel Stewart

At least Michigan was one of the states he did best with blacks. Hillary's black vote actually went down, there. Black people are voting for him, so for anyone to insinuate that they're not is wrong. There are even some voting for Trump.

The main reason why many people in general vote for Hillary is because of her name recognition and media exposure. I think his black vote(and all others) went up there due to his exposure during the Flint debate. If only he could get more favorable coverage.. The outcome would be so much different in many states.

May 11, 2016 - 10:20

Christopher Nguyen

Where ya from, user? We might also be neighbors. KY here.

May 11, 2016 - 10:21

Josiah Moore

usatoday.com/story/opinion/2016/05/10/bernie-sanders-millennials-cold-war-column/84179676/

May 11, 2016 - 10:21

Brandon Evans

Lmao, they're so desperate.

May 11, 2016 - 10:23

Joshua Adams

Another name for the list

May 11, 2016 - 10:24

Samuel Richardson

I suppose tax evasion is just questionable use of a shell company too :^)

May 11, 2016 - 10:26

Chase Robinson

n1

May 11, 2016 - 10:26

Nicholas Anderson

They actually link to his dissertation… how any history professor would pass this for a PhD is beyond me

gradworks.umi.com/36/69/3669260.html

May 11, 2016 - 10:27

Brandon Cox

The elders are getting so mad that young'ns are getting more involved in politics. :^) And that millennials meme is getting really old.

May 11, 2016 - 10:30

Landon Smith

What are you babbling about? Get that idpol shit outta here.

May 11, 2016 - 10:34

James Brown

I think this election is giving me a drinking problem tbh

May 11, 2016 - 10:36

William Brown

I know, man. It's been stressful & depressing. I like bunkers like leftypol as an outlet. It helps.

I was trying to quit smoking; it didn't go too well.. Not wise of me to choose election time.

May 11, 2016 - 10:42

Robert James

I thought it would be another election where we had the choice between a neoliberal who believes in giving gays rights and a neoliberal who believes in taking rights from gays

But nooooo, we had to have someone call themselves a socialist, and he had to get crushed by spooks

May 11, 2016 - 10:47

Samuel Smith

Pretty fucking disgraceful.

May 11, 2016 - 11:01

Austin Wilson

Hey. Hey kids.
You kids wanna suffer?
Let's suffer together.
observer.com/2016/05/bernie-sanders-only-cares-about-bernie-sanders/
In case you're trying to figure out if anyone is actually this stupid, they aren't. It's Trump affiliates shilling for Hillary to be nominated so they can crush her.

What the fuck are you talking about, nigger homo jew cuck shill? It's not even a little bit ogre.

May 11, 2016 - 11:26

Blake Turner

The faster you accept that the machine crushed Bernie the faster we can get to a point where we can take advantage and turn the Bernie supporters into leftists

May 11, 2016 - 11:28

Adrian Ward

OINK

May 11, 2016 - 11:30

Nicholas Rodriguez

god that guy just looks like a twat

May 11, 2016 - 11:31

Hudson Ward

Nigger the time you spend moping about what could have been could be spent phonebanking and helping to assure a Sanders win. We still have the ace up our sleeve, leave alone the electability argument. Like others have said, even if he does lose the harder he gets cucked the angrier his supporters will be and we can get real change done, like maybe turning the green party into what we want it to be, or making a new party and merging it with the greens or whathaveyou.

May 11, 2016 - 11:34

Christian Garcia

Yeah, it stings much more than it usually would, because it's usually politicians as usual. Don't lose faith yet, though. He's made it damn far against all odds & there's still a possibility he could actually win this thing. A lot of people are excited for the convention & what will happen there.

May 11, 2016 - 11:35

Nathan Stewart

PURGE THIS SHIT

May 11, 2016 - 11:36

James Long

We need armed people outside the convention

May 11, 2016 - 11:39

Liam Perez

VOTE NOW

i.engage.ms/App/msnbcdayside/daypulse

May 11, 2016 - 11:47

Jose Rodriguez

Hillary Clinton is like the girl who tries too hard to be on student council and then when she gets there she treats it too seriously

May 11, 2016 - 11:50

Benjamin Garcia

Hillary is hurting Hillary's chances.

May 11, 2016 - 11:52

Benjamin Bell

For the record, that guy is a legit Hillary supporter and pretty anti-Trump too. I just checked his Twitter. So it's not as simple as "shilling", but more likely it's "Hey Jon, I want you to write something negative about Bernie and positive about Hillary!"
And yes he does look like a twat.

May 11, 2016 - 11:55

Justin Martinez

kek

May 11, 2016 - 12:04

Connor Rogers

There are sveeral huge marches happening, and a ton of sane Socialist orgs. Bernie will win every contest then lose at the convention. Momentum will be with him but not the system. Your average fag will think he has a chance of winning going in. It's going to be a LOT of anger. And with all the focus off the RNC convention, it will be the only thing in the news.

Also the anger will come. We just have to wait for all the votes to be cast. A big letdown only makes them feel more alienated from the Dems.

May 11, 2016 - 12:25

Luis Barnes

...

May 11, 2016 - 12:37

Colton Foster

I'll be there, look for the guy dressed in all black holding up a sign that says "Allow new snackbar!"

May 11, 2016 - 12:51

Parker Fisher

I think most people here are

kids are gonna be libertarian, you can't truly be a socialist shitposter until you've been fucked by the world

May 11, 2016 - 12:54

Grayson Ortiz

unfortunately one of my cousins is getting married in Utah, if they weren't I'd be there waving a soviet flag

May 11, 2016 - 12:55

Luis Wilson

I hope he gets more delegates, even if he only gets one more delegate. That way we can le pwn pwn all the

It's not even banter, they usually tell you you need so many posts or followers before telling them they're wrong and then block you. Most of them are shills, cucked conservatives, radical feminists or grannies (literally, on all counts). There are "legit" Clinton supporters who aren't Clinton supporters out of necessity or "wymmanprazdant" but they seem like the kind of person who were PUMAs 8 years ago. In fact Clinton supporters in general seem like they never got out of the PUMA attitude with the smug anger. They didn't get voted more aggressive than "Bernie Bros" and almost as aggressive as Trump supporters for nothing.

May 11, 2016 - 14:05

Jaxson Torres

archive.is/pXrlW

May 11, 2016 - 14:33

Oliver Rogers

post a real link
youtube.com/watch?v=JHuL81rkjts

May 11, 2016 - 14:54

Michael Thompson

Shit.

May 11, 2016 - 15:01

Tyler Johnson

Comments be like:

May 11, 2016 - 15:05

Aiden Cook

...

May 11, 2016 - 15:17

Eli Garcia

reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/4ixbr5/i_am_jill_stein_green_party_candidate_for/

JILL STEIN AMA HAPPENING NOW

Democratic control of means of production has already been asked, since it is currently being proposed by many local green parties.

May 11, 2016 - 15:20

Blake Sanders

Problem with the Greens and Jill Stein is they're anti science when it comes to evolved plants

May 11, 2016 - 15:28

Juan Harris

Antinuke/antiscience idpol horseshit means the Greens are a non-option

May 11, 2016 - 15:53

Austin Edwards

GMOs need to be labeled though, and I wouldn't trust companies like Monsanto with them.

wew

May 11, 2016 - 15:54

Jason Jenkins

No they don't, there's no risk to humanity… anyway they're already labeled in being half the price

All capitalist corporations work in their own self interest, how is Monsanto any worse than an organic seed company. At least Monsanto is making scientific progress

May 11, 2016 - 15:56

Jace Miller

Monsanto isn't inherently worse but they have no code of internal ethics. Agent Orange is an excellent example.

You sound like one of those Rationalwiki-type morons that don't believe anything unless it's a universal consensus.

May 11, 2016 - 16:00

Elijah Diaz

That was literally 50 years ago m8, it has nothing to do with the modern company.

May 11, 2016 - 16:07

Alexander James

...

May 11, 2016 - 16:08

Ethan Rodriguez

you're what is wrong with the left, organic food is inherently classist

May 11, 2016 - 16:10

Anthony Gray

I tottaly agree.
At least back then they were honest about it.
Now, they even go full propaganda to make you think "our pesticides are not destroying the earth or anything".

May 11, 2016 - 16:14

Liam Sanders

Dude
I don't even have a problem with evolved plant but can you not see the point I'm making?

May 11, 2016 - 16:14

Jason Anderson

Their pesticides aren't destroying the earth though. Do you really fall for the hippy porky lie that Roundup is worse than other pesticides?

I see the point you're making, but all agriculture is capitalist, so it's better to go with the most scientifically progressive. Organic seed companies are just as capitalist, there is no socialist alternative to capitalist agriculture in the capitalist world

May 11, 2016 - 16:18

Robert Thompson

That's not really the point. Of course that's true, but not all agriculture comes from companies which developed and produce chemical weapons herbicide which killed and maimed millions of people

May 11, 2016 - 16:29

Oliver Martinez

Ok.
You go on and use roundup on your field and then eat the vegetables.

I'm not gonna do it.

It has nothing to do with hippie BS.
I live for 30 years on an agrarian village and so on, and we know roundup is shit since the 90s.

But you?
You go on and get cancer! I don't care!

May 11, 2016 - 16:31

Ryder Butler

Dude.. It's pretty much common knowledge that pesticides can ruin farmland. In the way that if you try to grow anything afterwards without using them, you get nothing. It's a main reason why farmers here in India were drinking the pesticides to commit suicide. They used them, tried to stop, then their crops & soil were fucked. Then they couldn't pay their debts from harvest & were losing their land. Instead of facing the shame of their ruin, many committed suicide. The run off also taints local water sources, which are scarce already.

Monsanto also has a monopoly on seeds, in the US & in India(I'm sure many other places as well). I remember reading about how some US farmers were even being sued for copyright infringement because seeds blew over naturally onto their crops. They were sued & lost everything.

My fiance actually comes from an agricultural caste, and all of his family were farmers. Now, none of them are. He said his uncle is still trying, but not having much luck.

npic.orst.edu/envir/soil.html

globalresearch.ca/the-seeds-of-suicide-how-monsanto-destroys-farming/5329947

usnews.com/news/world/articles/2008/07/07/the-toxic-consequences-of-the-green-revolution

thehindu.com/news/national/other-states/maharashtra-saw-3228-farmer-suicides-in-2015/article8103696.ece

indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/maharashtra-reports-57-farmers-suicides-so-far-in-2016/

May 11, 2016 - 16:37

Camden Reed

muh history

What about Syngenta? Would you be okay with the evolved plants from Syngenta?

Who cares what their history is, should we not Trust the Germans because they produced Hitler?

I used roundup on the weeds in my backyard, worked great. I'm not a farmer, but I know enough about chemicals to know it's significantly less toxic than other chemicals. You could literally drink a gallon of round up and be fine, you're more likely to die of liquid intoxication than poisoning if you drink round up as it is impossible to die of poisoning from it.

Nice samefagging though, good to see yourself looking like it's two on one when you're in fact one loser hippie destroying the left with your anti science shit

May 11, 2016 - 16:38

Jacob Price

They don't even have a monopoly on evolved plants

May 11, 2016 - 16:39

Juan Barnes

Epic.

May 11, 2016 - 16:40

Evan Brown

…

May 11, 2016 - 16:42

Oliver Davis

Based.

May 11, 2016 - 17:03

Easton Adams

DO IT FAGGOT! DO IT!

May 11, 2016 - 17:10

Michael Gonzalez

I could, I have a gallon of roundup, but I don't want to because that would be a waste

May 11, 2016 - 17:26

Caleb Gray

You'd prove your point to yourself and others.

That's a victory, not a waste. Do it.

May 11, 2016 - 17:34

Evan James

Yes.
Do it and post pics.

Oh, and, FBI!
We are not encouraging suicide. "IT'S TOTALLY SAFE!"

May 11, 2016 - 17:45

Christopher White

No, because I don't want to waste roundup and I don't give a shit what a bunch of anons think of me… also it probably would taste like shit

May 11, 2016 - 17:47

Hudson Roberts

Ye ye.
You'll die of cancer anyway.

May 11, 2016 - 17:50

Carter Flores

counterpunch.org/2016/05/11/can-the-fbi-save-bernie/
Can the FBI Save Bernie?

I agree that Bernie should have gone negative against Clinton but this narrative that the supporters will all be absorbed into the Dem establishment is ridiculous.

May 11, 2016 - 18:19

Oliver Rodriguez

I'm more socialist that Bernie and I still don't want to be friends with you Marxist hacks.

May 11, 2016 - 18:45

Jaxon Gutierrez

It worked when Jesse Jackson lost bowed out of the Democratic primaries in the 80s, I forget which election cycle but he was the anti-establishment candidate then against a run of the mill Democrat, when he lost, he grovelled and begged all of his skeptical supporters to back whoever went on to lose against Reagan, despite said candidate not offering anything to appease them.

It will be the same this time around, Sanders will plead his supporters to support Hillary unconditionally without any concessions because Trump must be stopped and the media will be pushing for this.

May 11, 2016 - 18:47

Evan Perez

the concern IMO with evolved plants has less to do with supposed health risks and more to do with environmental risks, like the risk of genetic pollution, but ultimately i don't see the green party as a particularly viable vehicle for a left-of-liberal movement in the united states, thanks to their focus on environmental issues (they are a GREEN party)–they're there to get 1-2% of the protest vote

i don't know where they are on "identity politics", but i don't really care, since i plan to just stay home and drink Holla Forums tiers when trump loses to hillary (while avoiding the smug liberals like the plague)

May 11, 2016 - 18:51

Jeremiah Phillips

where did crabby go?

May 11, 2016 - 18:51

Ryder Anderson

theintercept.com/2016/05/11/lobbyists-dnc-2016-convention/
gee, i wonder who they're going to be biased towards?

the 1980s is not the 2016 race. Hillary and co are actively chasing away grassroots supporters and young voters.

May 11, 2016 - 18:55

Jason Campbell

The majority of Sanders supporters will end up voting for Clinton anyway, not that I'm condoning it but as much as many people dislike her corrupt sleazy politics, liberal sensibilities these days have made Trumps politically incorrect statements so unpalatable that they'd be willing to accept and rationalize the personification of corruption that Hillary is.

Just because #bernieorbust is popular on twitter, it doesn't necessarily reflect popular opinion.

May 11, 2016 - 19:03

Gavin Sullivan

That's what I plan to do.

May 11, 2016 - 19:05

Hudson Mitchell

I may vote for Hillary Clinton, but only because her presidency would be an unmitigated disaster for modern American liberalism and would help make a left in America more viable.

Their new strategy of parading out Rockefeller Republicans in blackface and now drag and calling them liberals, and then claiming anyone who disagrees with them is racist/sexist, may be working with the older crowd but the younger people aren't buying that shit.

May 11, 2016 - 19:12

Carson Jones

Well, it will cause a low turn-out as quite a lot if people don't get very energized about voting for a lesser evil. If this can keep even jut 10% of people who'd otherwise vote in swing-states, Trump might actually win.
Hillary is a fucking disasterous candidate.

May 11, 2016 - 19:15

Eli Hernandez

Wouldn't it just make people claim that leftist ideas didn't work and we need to shift right? You know most people aren't smart enough to understand nuance.

May 11, 2016 - 19:19

Owen Lopez

You're literally Rick Snyder.

May 11, 2016 - 19:24

Logan Torres

this tbh. we've already seen everywhere online of reactionaries claiming obama's leftist policies brought us here and "muh conservatism counter-culture"

May 11, 2016 - 19:26

Aaron Young

You fucking nigger would you trust the Waltons with your shit? It is the same band of playboys heading the company regardless of who is technically the CEO and on the Board of Directors, it's the same corporate culture.
-
If it weren't for Stein I'd vote Clinton. The SCOTUS thing is more important than a lot of people seem to realize and Trump would be horrible at foreign policy which is why he's considered dangerous. His tax plan is also pantsu on head. Basically the only things he would be doing better than Hillary is potentially, potentially less corrupt, and he would represent something. That's it.

But Bernie's hopefully on the winning track so it won't matter.

May 11, 2016 - 19:45

Charles Russell

democracynow.org/2016/5/10/ralph_nader_sanders_should_stay_in

May 11, 2016 - 19:54

James Martin

Someone on Holla Forums pointed this out to me: Bush gave us Obama, but Obama gave us Occupy Wall Street and Sanders

May 11, 2016 - 20:07

Luke Perez

Bernie Sanders could still win the nomination – no, seriously.

m.huffpost.com/us/entry/bernie-sanders-could-still-win-the-democratic-nomination----no-seriously_b_9898436.html

This puts forth a totally plausible situation which Bernie was hoping for this entire time, but sort of just stopped mentioning since it looked desperate. As the article brings up, he will wim everywhere but New Jersey, and this is an unprecedented election. A lot depends on the swing states as well, where Hillary is currently falling below Trump.

…whispers of a dream…

May 11, 2016 - 20:13

Christopher Nguyen

Also do not read beyond the first 2 or 3 comments. Some stupid fucks didn't read the article and just mentioned #FeelingTheMath

May 11, 2016 - 20:17

Christian Barnes

This page is FB verified and under a mix of Sanders campaign and grassroots control. All the comments affirm the OP, and there is mild to no autism and stupid socialism attacks.

We're coming buckos.

May 11, 2016 - 20:20

Ryder Flores

...

May 11, 2016 - 20:27

Blake Rogers

This is bait

May 11, 2016 - 20:29

Austin Carter

How did Obama give us Sanders? Eugene Debs and MLK gave us Sanders.

May 11, 2016 - 20:30

Aiden Scott

JESUS FUKIN CHRISTUS,
I saw the title on FB earlier and thought "let them wear diapers" as a joke.

Never thought Capitalism WOULD ACTUALLY DO IT!

ROBOTS WHEN????????

May 11, 2016 - 20:42

Christian Wood

if it wasn't for Obama being a total disappointment on economic issues and doing fuck all to reign in wall street, then Sanders wouldn't be so popular.

May 11, 2016 - 20:54

Joseph Lewis

...

May 11, 2016 - 20:54

Caleb Morales

Yeah, but then again, everybody thought Obama would be Sanders, so in a way, you could say it's more like Bush that created Bernie

May 11, 2016 - 20:57

Tyler Roberts

I don't know a single person that thought Obama would be Sanders.

I know people that thought he would be less establishment, more transparent, and try to be a deal maker (kek) in 2008. By 2012, he was not-Romney.

May 11, 2016 - 21:15

Luke Davis

I think you're forgetting that Obama hinted at single-payer back in 2008 and promised great change.
Essentially he represented the pipe-dream that change could come from within the system.

May 11, 2016 - 21:46

Sebastian Bailey

True, true, but it depends on a variety of factors.
Right now, I think conservatism is almost dead in America. I know that sounds like bullshit but hear me out. See how Cruz tanked? Obviously he's not the most likeable guy but he had a coherent platform and was an eloquent enough speaker and, even though he took Republican policies further to their logical conclusion than the Republicans would have liked he was really the best thing they could hope for besides Chris-T (who I really wanted to win because he was the most centrist besides Trump and dude is actually fairly based for a conservative). You know what that tells me? It says that Republicans don't actually care that strongly about fiscal conservatism or foreign policy. They seem to settle for any candidate who will protect gunz, valuze, freedumb, patriotism, keep their taxes low and enact policies that hurt people who aren't them (wall/Muslim meme). Essentially, they're not voting so much on strategy but on worldview. They like the Republicans because they've been formed in Nixon's image as a party by backwards angry uneducated hicks for backwards angry uneducated hicks. Minorities are on the rise and the ones that do vote Republican vote so almost solely on religious issues. Effectively, the entire right is on life support because people only care about the muh culture war aspects of it, and demonstratably, millennials don't. So in short I think that accelerationism towards the Third Way will not repel people towards the right but towards the left. Accelerationism towards the right, I fear, would make the Third Way more attractive.

Gay post. Fuck off.

May 11, 2016 - 21:47

Thomas Anderson

Do people actually believe this shit? Do you really think Bernie is going to get you free college just because it's his platform via pure executive dictatorial power?

May 11, 2016 - 21:52

Angel Lopez

Of course not. He'd have to pressure a lot of Democrats LBJ-style and get a mass-movement going and then after the gongressional election, things might happen.
Difference is that Obama didn't even try.

May 11, 2016 - 22:01

Zachary Gutierrez

So you're serious? Jesus and you're telling me to fuck off?

May 11, 2016 - 22:05

David Rodriguez

You're mad because Obama hinted, just hinted, that single payer was a possibility, and he copped out and instead of potentially jeopardizing the entire thing over something he only hinted at, he compromised something that would still pretty much fulfill his campaign promise.

I'm not saying I like Obama for it, but this is like thinking Bernie is promising an-all expenses paid education at Harvard for anyone with an IQ of 80 or higher and being disappointed when it doesn't happen.

May 11, 2016 - 22:06

Ryan Collins

Yes, you are literally gay and gynophobic.

May 11, 2016 - 22:08

Christopher Parker

He did explicitly promise the public option though. That didn't happen. Instead we had a system where you're forced to buy private insurance under federal mandate. Obama campaigned like he was Sanders. Its the very same frustration that has given Bernie the momentum he's gained so far.

May 11, 2016 - 22:10

Jace Nguyen

Prez has immense sway in his party and Bernie would be excellent for down-ballot conservatives. Hell he could spend a yuge amount of time campaigning for them what with him vs. Trump already being a done deal, like instead of "Vote Bernie Sanders" be like "Vote the Bernie Ballot". I wouldn't be surprised to see the most Democratic Congress in history.

May 11, 2016 - 22:11

Colton Moore

Fine, let me explain myself better. I hate her so I wouldn't vote for her but I'd be crossing my fingers.

May 11, 2016 - 22:13

Asher Lee

And you'd vote for an anti science candidate?

May 11, 2016 - 22:14

David Howard

Oh god it really is the same cuntfagniggercuck.
She's not anti science you shit eating baboon. Nothing on the party platform says anything outright against either vaccines or evolved plants.
And she's already spoken on both of those parts of the platform, mostly against them. Hell, I think the party platform has a point on both counts, capitalism has not been known to be concerned with its consumers and a company like Monsanto could very well be giving people chemicals they know are harmful, maybe intentionally. They need regulation. Like guns. Guns are science too, you freaky clown-faced fuck.
You are very, very obviously from Reddit. Read Stirner, Marx and Zizek and then dial again.

May 11, 2016 - 22:21

Zachary Perez

That's not a promise, and you know it, which is why you said he hinted at it.

And for the past 8 years, negative sway with the other party.

May 11, 2016 - 22:28

Ryder Perez

wew

May 11, 2016 - 22:30

Cameron James

The public option is not the same a single-payer

May 11, 2016 - 22:44

John Adams

The other party is dying.

Wew eat my shit dumbcuck you are incredibly naïve and ideologized

May 11, 2016 - 22:47

Cameron Kelly

You seem to have used them interchangeably.

May 11, 2016 - 22:48

Wyatt Sullivan

archive.is/FhF1T

May 11, 2016 - 23:52

Nicholas Gutierrez

Anti-nuclear power, not weapons. I literally have no idea how I'd even begin to care enough to form a stance on nuclear weapons in 2016, especially since ICBM interception technology is taking off so fast, but anyone who opposes nuclear power is literally anti-biosphere and is enabling an existential threat to the habitability of the planet.

It takes a lot to eclipse the threat of capitalism and class warfare, but playing stupid idpol games where nuclear power is somehow the equal of fossil fuels and not the superior of "renewable" technology that it is may be the one thing that qualifies.

May 11, 2016 - 23:52

Ayden Cox

Did you say "happy 30th birthday" to the Chernobyl catastrophe?
chernobylfoundation.org/chernobyl/
Please leave the Earth inhabitable. :^)

Also, nuclear power is a non-renewable energy.

May 12, 2016 - 01:25

Eli Martin

I think your transmission stripped a few gears on that last shift, bud.

The problem wasn't that he failed to break the chains of the three-branch system with a single mighty pectoral flex, and ram single-payer through the legislature. The problem was that after pledging his support for single-payer during the campaign, when it came time to actually pass the ACA, he dismissed single-payer with the handwave that a public option SHOULDN'T EVEN BE ON THE NEGOTIATING TABLE.

Where did this bizarre idea that countries with socialized medicine have somehow banned private insurance come from?

Wow, and I thought you were against pseudoscience!

This. If we switched entirely to nuclear, we'd exhaust the world's entire known supply of net-positive ERoEI fuel (including garbage like thorium) in under a decade. The only alternative, breeders, is a ridiculous security risk (not to mention untried to date as commercial power generators, and globally banned by treaty), since the only way to maximize efficiency is to transmute all fuel to weapons-grade plutonium and sip off it as slow as possible, catastrophically dangerous even without theft or sabotage because (unlike conventional reactors) breeders can literally detonate like a nuclear bomb.

All that aside, even ignoring their freebie government-provided insurance (since no private insurer has EVER underwritten a nuclear plant), they have higher construction, operating, and decommissioning costs than an equivalent amount of sustainable power (even WITH grid storage included). Not to mention the even cheaper option of energy conservation, since current energy consumption is FAR less efficient than it should be.

May 12, 2016 - 03:16

Jaxson Collins

No, actually, millennials are literally overwhelmingly liberal. Post-millennials are even more so. It's true that wedge issues are at the forefront in American politics but my point is that if nobody cares about everything on the right except the culture war and the fight effectively loses the culture war then they'll be all but dead. When the Third Way is tried its inherent contradictions will come to the forefront just like they did in the first Clinton administration and people will be repelled further left.

May 12, 2016 - 06:43

Landon Bailey

it is good to want to promote third party candidates but this isn't one I'd waste my vote on.

also, with Sanders being so popular is there any more leftist politicians on the local/municipal level?

May 12, 2016 - 07:08

Matthew Campbell

Now that trump has unveiled his plan to crash the us economy with no survivors, should we vote trump to smash the state or "waste" our votes on stein to send a message?

May 12, 2016 - 07:12

Hudson Campbell

Is reddit full of trolls or full of nutjobs? I can't tell.

May 12, 2016 - 08:57

Chase Ortiz

When it's anti-nuke and anti-evolved plant it is

May 12, 2016 - 09:41

Blake Williams

MD

May 12, 2016 - 09:47

Gavin Sullivan

Oops. Forgot flag.

May 12, 2016 - 09:48

Brody Brown

She seemed a lot less stupid when I voted for her in 2012.

Though the leddit kids are obvious lolberts

May 12, 2016 - 09:57

Grayson Morales

A "non-renewable" energy that has literally hundreds of years worth of supply on hand. If something else isn't developed in that period of time, we probably deserve to die out.

oecd-nea.org/ndd/pubs/2010/6891-uranium-2009.pdf

"Renewables", on the other hand, are anything but. Every renewable generating source has a service lifespan, be it a solar panel or a wind turbine, before it must be decommissioned due to decrepitude past repair. Each and every one of these generating sources represents a vast investment of highly toxic rare earth elements that leech into the environment over the course of the unit's service lifetime, and upon decommissioning presents an immense waste problem on a scale we have little experience with - see JinkoPower's lawsuit over dumping solar panel waste into a river.

But hey, as long as American liberals feel good about buying their teslas and their home panels, who cares if the invisible costs to the Chinese workers who extract the yttrium and the neodymium include dramatic spikes in cancer and "graphite rain" onto nearby farmers' crops?

darpa.mil/news-events/2015-05-21-2
I guess DARPA didn't get your memo that ICBM interception is a fairy tale!

May 12, 2016 - 10:23

Jacob Ortiz

...

May 12, 2016 - 10:25

Robert Bell

Where's the surprise, there's no good reason to support the Greens outside of they're better on economics. There are so many sane leftist parties you can throw support behind

May 12, 2016 - 10:33

Jonathan Jackson

t. religious nut

May 12, 2016 - 10:37

Kevin Wright

I really don't understand the Jill Stein hate.
She looks like a normal European politician.

May 12, 2016 - 10:40

Joseph Roberts

Porky will be happy to supply you with an ongoing supply of solar panels and wind turbines that trickle so little energy, they practically cannot be designed to any standard above planned obsolescence.

If "religious nut" is some cypher for "100 years is plenty of time to devise something better than nuclear or solar/wind", I guess.

May 12, 2016 - 10:41

Daniel Sanders

t. religious nut

May 12, 2016 - 10:43

Benjamin Ortiz

All she has going for her is the left wing social democracy

May 12, 2016 - 10:45

Colton Butler

where?

May 12, 2016 - 10:49

Jaxon Lewis

Against
Against
Not sure

She's one step away from being against chemtrails

May 12, 2016 - 10:54

Nolan Brooks

Stein just assumes humanity will just stop producing new technology.

May 12, 2016 - 11:10

Wyatt Evans

She basically wants to adopt the EU legislation.
loc.gov/law/help/restrictions-on-gmos/eu.php
T-Thanks Fukushima.
She explicitely said vaccines save lives.

May 12, 2016 - 11:23

Logan Garcia

...

May 12, 2016 - 11:24

Gavin Gomez

Which is inherently anti-science

And how many people have died because of Coal, Oil and other forms of energy? How many places have been turned into wastelands

Nuclear is significantly better

May 12, 2016 - 11:28

Luis Wright

DISREGARD WHAT I SAY I SUCK COCKS
mining.com/uranium-miners-dying-from-cancers-unexplained-illnesses-in-namibia-57872/

May 12, 2016 - 11:30

Logan Wright

Post-earthquake Fukushima at its worst still had lower background radiation than the naturally occurring radiation in Kerala, and Kerala actually has lower cancer rates than first world nations like the UK or Australia.

Radiation is clearly not the magic spell of death you or the general public makes it out to be; I certainly know I'd trust my health near X amount of nuclear waste than an equivalent amount of waste neodymium from a wind turbine manufactory.

May 12, 2016 - 11:31

Aiden Cox

tip that fedora hard

May 12, 2016 - 11:31

Leo Brown

Keep moving those goalposts bucko

May 12, 2016 - 11:33

Elijah Martin

STEM is the next religious zealotry.

May 12, 2016 - 11:36

William James

That's just not true, evolved plants are far more studied than traditionally crossbred plants and the whatnot.

It's been getting researched for a very long time, no science is truly hastily done

Virtually all technology under capitalism is for profit or exploited for profit.

That doesn't make it bad, you should understand that that's just how capitalism works and until we overthrow capitalism that's how it's going to work

May 12, 2016 - 11:37

Jose Walker

I'll be willing to listen to any actual substantiated argument you have, should you ever make one.

May 12, 2016 - 11:38

Cameron Fisher

I don't debate fanatics. There's no point.

May 12, 2016 - 11:42

Ayden Mitchell

Well that's convenient; anyone who disagrees with you is a de facto "fanatic" and you don't ever have to explain how or why.

May 12, 2016 - 11:47

Dominic Edwards

except science is based on evidence and the observable.

Is a doctor no better than a shaman?

May 12, 2016 - 11:47

Jayden Green

...

May 12, 2016 - 11:50

Brandon Hill

I wish I had time to make a Lysenkoist version of that right now.

May 12, 2016 - 11:58

Jack Stewart

I think you responded to the wrong person

May 12, 2016 - 11:58

Brayden Ward

I'm against evolved plants until we have socialism.

The technology isn't inherently dangerous, but I don't trust porky with them.

May 12, 2016 - 12:06

Brandon Cook

How would porky be able to plant millions of acres of them without adverse effects becoming visible at some point? Rodent pests eating evolved plants don't turn up dead by the hundred.

Porky is evil, not omnipotent. If you're going to insist porky can't be trusted with one potentially dangerous technology, then in order to be consistent you need to trim a lot of porky-produced tech out of your life.

May 12, 2016 - 12:11

Juan Taylor

They continually fake lab results, lobby governments, and don't give a flying fuck about health concerns and regulations. evolved plants are potentially very dangerous. I'm very pleased by the EU's health regulations don't allow for their BS to reign over here too.

May 12, 2016 - 12:12

Josiah Sanders

Source? And a real source please

Also Porky isn't evil per se, porky just looks out for his self interest. That's how class works, it's in Porky's favor to not kill his customers in droves as that drives down profits, it's in the working class's self interest to overthrow Porky.

May 12, 2016 - 12:21

Parker Jones

Okay Lysenko, that's enough.

American Association for the Advancement of Science: ”The science is quite clear: crop improvement by the modern molecular techniques of biotechnology is safe.”

American Medical Association: ”There is no scientific justification for special labeling of genetically modified foods. Bioengineered foods have been consumed for close to 20 years, and during that time, no overt consequences on human health have been reported and/or substantiated in the peer-reviewed literature.”

The United States National Academy of Sciences: “Environmental effects at the farm level have occurred as a result of the adoption of GE crops and the agricultural practices that accompany their cultivation. The introduction of GE crops has reduced pesticide use or the toxicity of pesticides used on fields where soybean, corn, and cotton are grown.”

World Health Organization: ”No effects on human health have been shown as a result of the consumption of GM foods by the general population in the countries where they have been approved.”

The United States National Academy of Sciences: “To date, no adverse health effects attributed to genetic engineering have been documented in the human population.”

American Phytopathological Society: ”The American Phytopathological Society (APS), which represents approximately 5,000 scientists who work with plant pathogens, the diseases they cause, and ways of controlling them, supports biotechnology as a means for improving plant health, food safety, and sustainable growth in plant productivity.”

American Society for Cell Biology: ”Far from presenting a threat to the public health, GM crops in many cases improve it. The ASCB vigorously supports research and development in the area of genetically engineered organisms, including the development of genetically modified (GM) crop plants.”

U.S. Food and Drug Administration: “FDA is confident that the bioengineered foods on the United States market today are as safe as their conventional counterparts.”

Health Canada: “Health Canada is not aware of any published scientific evidence demonstrating that novel foods are any less safe than traditional foods.”

Society of Toxicology: ”Scientific analysis indicates that the process of GM food production is unlikely to lead to hazards of a different nature than those already familiar to toxicologists. The level of safety of current GM foods to consumers appears to be equivalent to that of traditional foods.”

Federation of Animal Science Societies: ”Meat, milk and eggs from livestock and poultry consuming biotech feeds are safe for human consumption.”

Consensus document on evolved plants Safety (14 Italian scientific societies): ”GMOs on the market today, having successfully passed all the tests and procedures necessary to authorization, are to be considered, on the basis of current knowledge, safe to use for human and animal consumption.”

“Transgenic Plants and World Agriculture” – Prepared by the Royal Society of London, the U.S. National Academy of Sciences, the Brazilian Academy of Sciences, the Chinese Academy of Sciences, the Indian National Science Academy, the Mexican Academy of Sciences, and the Third World Academy of Sciences: “Foods can be produced through the use of GM technology that are more nutritious, stable in storage, and in principle health promoting – bringing benefits to consumers in both industrialized and developing nations.”

French Academy of Science: ”All criticisms against evolved plants can be largely rejected on strictly scientific criteria.”

International Society of African Scientists: ”Africa and the Caribbean cannot afford to be left further behind in acquiring the uses and benefits of this new agricultural revolution.”

Union of German Academies of Sciences and Humanities: ”Food derived from GM plants approved in the EU and the US poses no risks greater than those from the corresponding conventional food. On the contrary, in some cases food from GM plants appears to be superior with respect to health.”

International Council for Science: ”Currently available genetically modified crops – and foods derived from them – have been judged safe to eat, and the methods used to test them have been deemed appropriate.”

May 12, 2016 - 12:22

Jason Ortiz

It's happened before in other industries.
Lead, asbestos, climate change, faulty airbags and brakes, DDT etc.

I see this as a false dilemma.
Ethical consumption doesn't have to follow.
Strong safety regulations could fix a lot of potential problems.

May 12, 2016 - 12:48

William Price

This.

May 12, 2016 - 12:54

Zachary Richardson

Yes, and in each case it was scientific inquiry that revealed it. I'm always baffled by the suggestion that porky has "corrupted" the scientists with bribes or what have you - the fossil fuels industry has orders of magnitude more cash than agribiz, and they failed to do what a less powerful industry could?

You'll be glad to know that they're already in place for evolved plants.

May 12, 2016 - 12:58

Carson Watson

Who said it wasn't?
The problem wasn't that the truth didn't eventually get out, it's that it got out long after the fact and was suppressed.
If you're saying that scientist haven't been paid to be mouthpieces of the fossil fuel industry, then I'm sorry but I've seen way too much evidence to the contrary.

They don't go far enough.
princeton.edu/morefoodlesscarbon/reading/files/Ramjoue-Review-of-Reg-Issues.pdf

May 12, 2016 - 13:15

Elijah Jackson

ucsusa.org/food_and_agriculture/our-failing-food-system/genetic-engineering/risks-of-genetic-engineering.html

May 12, 2016 - 13:20

Ethan Cook

I'm saying that those who were paid were too few in number to affect the consensus, and were revealed to be bullshitting in due time largely because their positions weren't replicated independently - also a problem that consistently bedevils anti-GMO researchers.

May 12, 2016 - 13:23

Luis Scott

That's fair

May 12, 2016 - 13:28

Adrian Brooks

She's right about the the medical-industrial complex though. Conflicts of interest are rampant in every single avenue of US social/political policy. Unfortunately, she doesn't seem to know that the anti-vaccination thing was the result of literal data falsification to back some drug competitor–conflict of interest. So it's not like it doesn't go both ways, but I think her perspective is right.

Her view on energy is unpopular but ecologically minded. Nuclear is cheap, but ultimately not sustainable; it's better than fossil fuel, but in the long run that waste is just going to pile up. People want "cleaner energy" but aren't willing to cut their energy usage, from overlooking wasteful and excessive industrial production practices to the absurd cultural dream of every single person having their own personal car. I don't think it's good to reject nuclear as a better alternative for the time being, but there's a fundamental problem with simplifying matters to cost.

May 12, 2016 - 14:06

Tyler Hall

Exactly how substantial do you think the volume of waste really is? And are you not familiar with reprocessing nuclear waste into new fuel with breeder reactors?

May 12, 2016 - 14:08

Cooper Howard

Capitalism need to maximize profit.
As modern capitalism is all about "MORE PROFIT! NOW! TODAY!" safety is secondary.

So, the actual problem is Fukushima, my love. Not wastes.

Chernobil happened in a collapsing USSR that didn't spend enough for infastructure.
Hmm..
Like US doesn't … hmmmm…

May 12, 2016 - 14:20

Ryder Morgan

And since background radiation at Fukushima at it's worst still wasn't as high as the naturally occurring background radiation in Kerala, where people have lower cancer rates than the UK, maybe this technology is just inherently safe to the point where even porky behaving irresponsibly is still better than solar, wind or coal?

May 12, 2016 - 14:31

Tyler Cruz

No cancer or radiation is better than some, right? I don't think those latter energies cause radiation or cancer.

Didn't some high level worker at Fukushima die of cancer shortly after the leak? I read it was "unrelated", but come on.. I also remember reading that the robots they had go in to do repairs also were shutting down from too much radiation.
newsweek.com/robots-sent-fukushima-have-died-435332

It seems like a good idea to move away from riskier forms of energy production, where even the possibility of accidents happening, compared to cleaner energies. You're arguing that the Fukushima leak isn't dangerous?

May 12, 2016 - 15:22

Mason Gray

This. Energy companies routinely lobby for less regulation for this very reason. To imply that what they're doing isn't dangerous is, quite frankly, retarded.

May 12, 2016 - 15:24

Asher Rodriguez

youtube.com/watch?v=0H2FqB2ba30

Jill Stein on Bernie Sanders collaboration.

I might understand why he isn't paying attention to them so far, but she says the greens have been trying to contact him since 2011 and he never gave them any attention. what does leftypol thinks about that?

May 12, 2016 - 15:24

Carson Thomas

=BERNIE BEATING HILLARY IN NEW MEXICO BY 60 PERCENT==

isidewith.com/2016-democratic-primary-poll/801555698/9333331

May 12, 2016 - 15:55

Aaron Cox

We need to have violence at the convention tbhfam

The super delegates have to be scared if they're gonna change their mind, no revolution comes because of peaceful chanting and politely asking

May 12, 2016 - 15:59

Ayden Peterson

I think he's been trying to change the democratic party fundamentally so it reflects something like the green party. The dems already see him as an outsider, if he started hanging out with the green party now the media would lose their minds.

May 12, 2016 - 16:01

Mason Allen

What is it that you think that image proves about vaccination?

May 12, 2016 - 16:18

David Adams

Not so much vaccination, but she does fall for the homeopathy meme

May 12, 2016 - 16:20

Isaac Wilson

Not only do those other technologies kill other people via more "mundane" chemical means, they still do in fact emit radiation and overall cause far more cancer per KWh of energy than nuclear. Refusing to look at the full production chain and just basking in the satisfied glow of neoliberal propaganda that obscures the full costs is some liberal porky shit.

e360.yale.edu/feature/boom_in_mining_rare_earths_poses_mounting_toxic_risks/2614/

I get that looking at the entire production chain and assessing the full range of impacts isn't part of elementary greenkiddie protocol, but when you actually go through and assess every risk at every step, the final verdict is that nuclear is safer, more productive and more bountiful than any other power source.

May 12, 2016 - 16:21

Eli Davis

Uh… Where?

By the way the idiots in my county have support for alternative medicine on their Democratic Party platform. And Sanders goes on about that Gender Gap crap all the time. It's hard to find people right about everything.

May 12, 2016 - 16:30

Xavier Richardson

The Dem Convention, Hosted By GOP Donors & Anti-Obamacare Lobbyists

youtube.com/watch?v=JrIdaI7MPLs

May 12, 2016 - 16:32

Easton Young

Yeah, but I care more about science than I do anything else besides socialism. So I'll never vote for a candidate or a party that actively campaigns against certain aspects of science.

May 12, 2016 - 16:50

Evan Hernandez

Oh yeah? So do I. I see the importance of the bigger picture however. Who's going to get your vote in November?

May 12, 2016 - 16:55

Jeremiah Roberts

Why do people post this guy so much when he pretty much just regurgitates other news articles? Just post the original source.

theintercept.com/2016/05/11/lobbyists-dnc-2016-convention/

May 12, 2016 - 16:57

Sebastian Lopez

I'm leaning towards Trump, actually.

May 12, 2016 - 16:58

Zachary Cooper

There is not much out there that is worse than coal. Drive through the Deep South some time, and you will be able to see the air around towns with coal power plants. As someone from the West Coast, going though that shit made me sick.

May 12, 2016 - 17:00

Jack Smith

...

May 12, 2016 - 17:10

James Nelson

...

May 12, 2016 - 17:13

Juan Bennett

This isn't actually me

Probably Mimi Soltysik

May 12, 2016 - 17:13

Grayson Campbell

Hey guys. Just a thought… What if we gassed the Jews?

May 12, 2016 - 17:16

Mason Hernandez

tbh I just like how mocks the American southerner accent

May 12, 2016 - 17:22

Angel Cruz

well the American Green Party is amateur bullshit that never gets anything done.

May 12, 2016 - 20:01

Parker Lee

Technically that's got voluntary response bias but given that the gap was only 14 points before Super Tuesday I can believe this. Shame we can't phonebank there.

So you're a faggot, then.

Confirmed.

May 12, 2016 - 20:08

Lincoln Russell

Haha oh shit even worse.
Guy's a faggot and a tool with really shitty reasons not to just endorse Sanders (hurr durr he imperialist). Have fun with that protest vote.

May 12, 2016 - 20:08

Liam Diaz

...

May 12, 2016 - 20:12

Nolan Campbell

I'd be a flagfag but FUCKING BO REEE won't add a PR flag, so I only use my trip occasionally.

May 12, 2016 - 20:18

William Torres

Since Bernie is very unlikely to win now and hype seems to have died down, I am considering loosening the rules on Elections threads. Thoughts?

May 12, 2016 - 21:16

Cooper Perez

I like having a general election thread for updates, but that's just me. Also, there's still a very slight chance Bernie might maybe win. Also, there's Trumpenstien too.

May 12, 2016 - 21:22

James Long

personally i agree with having a single mega thread is convenient.

May 12, 2016 - 21:24

Charles Hernandez

Fuck you, Bernie's still gonna make a comeback.

May 12, 2016 - 21:25

Liam Bennett

My God Help Me To Survive This Deadly Friendship

May 12, 2016 - 21:27

Easton Jenkins

I remember that faggot well.

May 12, 2016 - 21:41

Dylan James

Trump is going to win if it's him vs. Hillary. He just went up in the polls after becoming the presumptive nominee, and the Republicans are actively working on party unity. Bernie's supporters are less likely to switch to Hitlery by the day, and she's only making that worse.

Calling it now, the DNC have a choice to make between Trump walking into the White House or nominating Bernie and having a solid chance Trump loses the general.

May 12, 2016 - 21:52

Dominic Allen

Wew. His chances are looking better all the time. There's still the ace up our sleeve.
pr flag

May 12, 2016 - 21:55

Camden Turner

I'm kind of unsure about your electoral calculus there - Trump practically writes his own attack ads just by being Trump - but the DNC will never take Bernie and his solid chance of victory over handing Queen Clinton her long-awaited crown.

Time to start planning for a really weird combination of making the most of Trump's center-right entryism and the accelerationist tack on his worse elements.

May 12, 2016 - 21:56

Cooper Jackson

I know. Hopefully theres a crushing win in cali.

May 12, 2016 - 21:57

Wyatt Roberts

That's assuming that contrary to all evidence the media and Hillary will suddenly figure out how to do that. They've tried and it hasn't worked.
They'd also take Trump over Bernie, which is going to further alienate Bernie supporters, especially since my previous statement is how he'll describe the situation to them.

May 12, 2016 - 22:03

Christopher Thomas

We will see

May 12, 2016 - 22:06

Luke Perez

And of course I get Jeb's name wrong

May 12, 2016 - 22:12

Zachary Turner

Bull-phugging-shit. If Hill Shill's polls dip any more they will know not to take the risk- superdelegates were put in place (on paper) to vet candidates who were unelectable and to help a clear front runner clinch the nomination (for example, if there's like 9 candidates and all of them have 8% of the vote except for one who has like 36%). Of course they could still go full retard or completely forget what they're there for but I don't expect that to happen.

No way. They'd be finished if Trump won, he's unpredictable and they'd lose the last bastion of government control they have.

May 12, 2016 - 22:21

Cooper Clark

6.5% is a pretty comfortable margin over Trump, she could lose a whole percent and still be well within the margin of error of a certain victory. Maybe I'm just not reading the same polls as you, but RealClearPolitics and FiveThirtyEight put them in a 43-49 split - obviously not as comfortable as Bernie's numbers, but nothing that would send the DNC into a panic and make them backtrack on the months and months of obstructions they've thrown in Bernie's path.

May 12, 2016 - 22:40

Caleb Campbell

She won't lose "a whole percent". She'll lose much more. Especially if anyone gets even close to indicting her. There was a poll that came out recently that had her already under Trump by -2 points in three swing states (which are the only ones that matter), and most recent polls have her in the +3-+4 neighborhood. Those websites include very old polling.

May 12, 2016 - 22:50

Jack Lewis

Well that remains to be seen, but the poll you're referring to is a Ramussen poll and Nate Silver has busted them time and again for favoring Republican candidates 3.8% above actual results and just being 5.6% inaccurate in general.

Don't get me wrong, I want Hillary to sink and the DNC to go hand in hat to Bernie, but I think you're jumping the gun a little bit here.

May 12, 2016 - 22:54

Oliver Hill

...

May 12, 2016 - 22:55

Alexander Anderson

Obviously there's outliers and unreliable polling but the fact of the matter is polling methods already favor Hillary because of her demographics. If she starts beating Trump by +10 in every poll from here on out I'll consider it a fluke.

May 12, 2016 - 22:58

Brayden Davis

Fuck off with your well-poisoning bullshit. Rasmussen relies heavily on landline polling to collect their data, while the other agencies have nearly entirely given up on landlines. You honestly think that doesn't skew things in ways other polls don't experience?

May 12, 2016 - 22:59

Robert Thompson

realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

Other than Rasmussen calling up senior citizens on their landlines, what you're seeing here is pretty well in the ballpark of what you're describing.

May 12, 2016 - 23:00

Ayden Watson

Yeah, it's not as if we needed to safely seal nuclear wastes for the next 100,000 years.

May 13, 2016 - 00:56

Asher Lewis

God, I really hope knowledge of breeder reactors becomes common so I don't have to keep shooting down this weary old canard.

May 13, 2016 - 01:08

Michael Reed

Breeder reactors exist since the 60s, don't you see them everywhere? :^)

May 13, 2016 - 01:12

Hunter Perez

No shit, Porky just prefers stuffing waste in a mountain rather than putting the money up front for breeder reactors. It's not even being "repressed", it's just easier for porky's short-term bottom line to not push for breeders.

May 13, 2016 - 01:14

Luis Walker

...

May 13, 2016 - 03:13

Matthew Myers

Is there a way to make and use a Facebook account that doesn't compromise privacy?

May 13, 2016 - 05:55

Easton Gomez

You don't have to use your real name or give out any personal information.

May 13, 2016 - 07:05

Liam Gomez

They want senpai to notice them

May 13, 2016 - 14:10

Aiden Hall

Are you retarded? He claimed vaccines give you autism and that climate change is a crafty Chinese scheme. He's even more """anti-science""" than Stein.

May 13, 2016 - 14:12

Henry Diaz

Yes, he is retarded.

May 13, 2016 - 14:13

Nathan Jones

Uh oh, looks like they fail your "le epic science" criteria too!

May 13, 2016 - 14:27

Austin Adams

bigstory.ap.org/article/34f1ee4e267f4bb1a7e9484a12883129/self-funded-donald-trump-preparing-seek-big-donor-money
archive.is/2a7qi
'Self-funded' Donald Trump preparing to seek big-donor money

May 13, 2016 - 14:31

Jayden Fisher

...

May 13, 2016 - 14:31

Elijah James

...

May 13, 2016 - 14:32

Elijah Jenkins

>BUT MUH ANTI ESTABLISHMENT

May 13, 2016 - 14:35

Christopher Diaz

jacobinmag.com/2016/05/white-workers-bernie-sanders-clinton-primary-racism/
Burying the White Working Class

To no one’s surprise, that’s not a confrontation that brings out the best in them.

IDENTITY POLITICS BTFO

BTFO
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May 13, 2016 - 16:58

Mason Brown

They've been calling Sanders a white supremacist since the start of the race. It's how Clinton maintains such a large portion of the black electorate.

It basically went like this:

May 13, 2016 - 17:33

Julian Evans

How do we know Trump isn't some massive troll?
I don't want to vote third party knowing that I'm just throwing in a "protest vote."
What if he really is whhite jesus?

May 13, 2016 - 21:06

Andrew Perez

Reupload pls?

May 13, 2016 - 21:15

Luis Watson

Jacobin needs to keep churning out editorial work instead of publishing articles by randoms.

It's pretty clear that at the core, the magazine is based, but there are far too many liberals trying to shoehorn their pandering into it.

May 13, 2016 - 21:18

Sebastian Robinson

wut?

May 13, 2016 - 21:24

Jonathan Clark

Poster called 'love and kindness' with a picture of Shillery with bomb being dropped being juxtaposed translucently.

May 13, 2016 - 21:50

Ryan Russell

I got it comrade.

May 13, 2016 - 23:19

Christian Carter

Hey guise, I figured out the best way to deal with Hill Shills on Twatter and the like. Call them old, and give them stereotypical old person names like "Gladys" and "Phyllis" (just make sure that's not their real name- no I'm not even kidding, I got halfway through typing "Phyllis" once before figuring out it was the old cunt's real name). A big tip off that they're actually old is if they capitalize random words and retweet shitty memes and just generally seem really unhip. They fucking hate it. They hate being reminded that the only reason they're so opposed to Bernie is because they fear those darned millennials, those darned communists (some will even call him one up front) and those darned radicals.

May 13, 2016 - 23:48

Julian Gutierrez

And like I've said before some Hill Shills are radical feminists or fags or sometimes blacks but these are exceptions, they're not the people running the "#ByeByeBernie @Phyllis4Hillary" accounts. Those will be the people using their personals and they'll be slightly more reasonable, but the most avid tweeters often literally have ties to the Clintons.

Obviously all this shit is completely irrelevant but I love banter and getting blocked by butthurt grannies so feel free to join me.

May 13, 2016 - 23:50

Christian Flores

No, there is a much more simple way to get them to fuck off. Inform them that this is how their bosses talk about them:
motherjones.com/politics/2014/09/david-brock-hillary-clinton-correct-the-record

May 14, 2016 - 00:36

Cooper Lewis

We have found the enemy, and he is us.

May 14, 2016 - 01:22

Dylan Brown

The feel I'm feeling right now is not a good feel.

May 14, 2016 - 02:13

Joshua Lee

cnn.com/2016/05/09/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton/index.html
WE WARNED YOU
YOU SHOULD HAVE LISTENED

May 14, 2016 - 12:51

Hudson Clark

He ain't even wrong

May 14, 2016 - 13:08

Owen Miller

Hillary just stole Nevada back btw

the nevada dnc took a vote before everyone was signed in and then used that vote to change the rules to lock out the bernie supporters

DEMOCRAZY

May 14, 2016 - 14:11

Christopher Gutierrez

reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4jcf9n/breaking_nv_dem_convention_in_chaos_as_bernie/

>We're talking about this a lot over here: reddit.com/r/Kossacks_for_Sanders/comments/4jcdsz/something_is_going_down_at_the_nevada_caucaus/

>It's very serious. Roberta Gustave Lange, a Clinton supporter and Chair of the Democratic State Party, changed the rules without a 2/3rds majority quorum, which are listed HERE: nvdems.3cdn.net/ea5a7f0df495b0cf4c_z2m6bnqh5.pdf

>Roberta Lange's twitter, for those interested in her side (since obviously I am not in any way promoting we "harass" her, which would be against Reddit rules) is @rlange9 and her FB is here: facebook.com/roberta.gustavelange?fref=nf&ref=content_filter&hc_location=ufi

May 14, 2016 - 14:14

Henry Brooks

hopy shit

May 14, 2016 - 14:17

Brody Lewis

lmao that's literally the kind of thing Arizona Republicans would do

May 14, 2016 - 14:26

Sebastian Foster

youtube.com/watch?v=qmn6_UxL5Vc

Jerry White, Socialist Equality Party presidential candidate, speaks to a meeting of Detroit teachers.

May 14, 2016 - 14:33

Ayden Lewis

He's not exactly electrifying but it's cool to see him getting some positive response.

May 14, 2016 - 14:46

Joseph Peterson

Only at the absolute shallowest level. Mark my words, unless the nonissues are purged from "leftism", millennials and their ilk will go rotten faster and worse than the hippies ever did.

If we win big enough in California, that might give his campaign the leverage needed to issue or threaten legal challenges to massive election fraud earlier in the primary, get a recount, and turn the DNC into a bloodbath. Anyway, even with Bernie on the sidelines, the conflagration between Shillary and Trump will generate more than enough for a cyclical.

How did such a based article creep into their site? Could they have a debate to mine salt from the comments section after the resulting assrape?

Sanders could knock over the Democratic party machine like blowing at a house of cards with this level of blatant corruption. When is he going to attack, why hasn't he already?

May 14, 2016 - 14:47

Kevin Gutierrez

7/10, great troll terminology

>At current (2008) rates of consumption
Learn to read what you're responding to

Regarding sustainables, solar thermal generators, windmills, tidal generators, and geothermal pumps have no exotic material requirements, and are inexpensively maintained and replaced. But even if you ignore them to focus on photovoltaic solar, while their service lifespans are so much longer than originally projected that there hasn't been enough decommissioned to generate a significant amount of waste yet, PV solar is highly recyclable, and also an excellent use for low-quality reclaimed materials from the recycling of other e-waste.

ucsusa.org/nuclear-weapons/us-missile-defense
lol

You just have trouble reading, boyo?

Also

May 14, 2016 - 14:47

Jayden Johnson

No, I guarantee you all or most of these old losers are legit.

May 14, 2016 - 14:49

Levi Mitchell

Because the DNC is a private group and so the government doesn't give a shit :^)

May 14, 2016 - 14:50

Parker Scott

The fact of the matter is that of Bernie makes a loud enough fuss about the corruption they'll do anything for him. The Democratic party can't afford that kind of PR hit given that they're very likely to lose all three levels of elected office (they've already lost 2) and are already bleeding donors constantly. The question is if he will. Hill Shills have already made a point of calling him a "sore loser" for pointing out a rigged system.

May 14, 2016 - 15:27

Jonathan Barnes

At absolute minimum, it would fall under civil law as a violation of numerous private contracts.

May 14, 2016 - 15:39

Jacob Foster

...

May 14, 2016 - 16:05

Daniel Young

No they won't. They don't give a shit if the Republicans win every single elected office in the damn country, they won't let Bernie come close to winning.

They are inhuman scum, nothing more.

May 14, 2016 - 16:12

Joseph Price

This. Whatever differences the two parties seem to have is mostly just for the public facade, the porky heads of each party would much rather cooperate than allow Sander's to challenge the status quo, even minimally.

May 14, 2016 - 16:21

Austin Barnes

m.facebook.com/BriSetz/posts/1200004010010265
This shit is nuts; it is not acceptable. If you live in NV, do not let them get away with this shit. The nays clearly had it, and they're ignoring the delegates/voters.

May 14, 2016 - 16:24

Dylan Reed

...

May 14, 2016 - 16:26

Kayden Turner

This, more likely than not.

Right now he's just risking pissing off Hillary. Once all this is over he goes back to work as a senator and that means working with the DNC, the party whose collaboration he's relied on for years to accomplish what little good he can actually do.

So here's what'll happen if he tries to take on the whole DNC alone: he loses the presidency and then he goes back as a senator, but now all the muh privileges and collaboration he enjoyed pre-bid are fucking gone, and worse than that they devote their resources to seeing him ousted in the next senatorial race. That's if they even have to bother considering time is clearly on the DNC's side.

So Bernie, the eternal pragmatist, is playing a balanced game and pulling his punches, because if he swings at the DNC, then they're going to swing back, and alot harder. And if they do, that could mean accomplishing even less than what he'll be able to if he just loses the election. He'll lose what means he has to effect any sort of change, and the DNC will be as corrupt as ever.

May 14, 2016 - 16:35

Blake Wright

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May 14, 2016 - 17:12

James Jackson

Honestly, this comment reads like someone who just recently started paying attention to the election. Bernie's been calling out the DNC publicly much more so, for the past month, roughly. For instance, his campaign wrote that letter to the DNC recently, calling them out for breaking campaign finance laws, in their joint fundraising with Hillary & not reporting most of it.

He's been taking them on since day 1, really. Which is what's most amazing about him making it this far, all while taking on America's most powerful people. As far as working on the hill, most politicians chalk it up to politics as usual, and continue to work together afterwards & behind closed doors. That's one of the reasons they're so shitty, all they care about is money, kickbacks etc. Not what's best for the people in working on legislation.

May 14, 2016 - 17:16

Aiden Cook

saying the DNC will be as corrupt as ever implies that yes it has already happened

oh no, not a letter. how will they ever recover???

May 14, 2016 - 17:30

Dylan Ramirez

Not just a letter, but a strongly worded letter. Lmao, but seriously.. IIRC, it was threatening legal action as well. God knows he's got more than sufficient evidence for election fraud & funny business.

And actually, he has a lawsuit already filed against the DNC, regarding their vendor who keeps voting information for each candidate. Remember when the DNC locked him out from accessing his own files? That's what it was about. If I'm not mistaken, he also has another lawsuit against them for another matter.

Does anyone know a clever, short rebuttal to the "conspiracy nut" accusation? I usually just counter with facts until they get pissed off & start acting nuts, themselves. It works & is entertaining most of the time, but sometimes I don't feel like repeating the same thing three times a day, and it would be a lot easier to respond with something shorter. The whole "conspiracy" thing gets annoying, really quick. And it's why so many people hate Hillary supporters/shills. The condescension is on a whole 'nother level.

May 14, 2016 - 17:45

David Hughes

...

May 14, 2016 - 17:56

Jaxson Hill

Tell them that the "conspiracy theorist" meme was propagated by the CIA to discredit people investigate actually confirmed conspiracies.

May 14, 2016 - 18:03

Jason Butler

Cute & clever. (/¯–‿･)/¯
I like it.

May 14, 2016 - 18:08

William Nguyen

That's a good one. It's funny that most people think conspiracies in general don't happen or something. It's not a theory that this goes on, it's just reality. Especially with those who want to get or retain power.

May 14, 2016 - 18:16

Jordan Hill

The idea they'd rather have republicans is ridiculous. They're capitalists and don't want to rock the boat and not all that left, but they are left, and they lose even more money if that happens.

May 14, 2016 - 18:41

Hudson Wilson

youtube.com/watch?v=5srPXtJV0V0

May 14, 2016 - 19:13

Eli Turner

nationalreview.com/article/435393/hillary-clinton-e-mails-Cheryl-Mills-DOJ

May 14, 2016 - 19:55

Liam Brown

is that how they stole nevada?

May 14, 2016 - 19:59

Caleb Thompson

Wait, what?

Explain this for a non american comrade

May 14, 2016 - 21:07

Grayson Campbell

I'm not surprised, honestly. The Ron Paul 2012 folks have been telling the Bernie folks that this would happen all along.

May 14, 2016 - 21:12

Jeremiah Foster

Am I the only one sick of this email bullshit? I'm honestly more upset by the fact she apparently did this to try to skirt around any FOIA requests than any "security" concerns.

May 14, 2016 - 23:01

Brayden Torres

The Nevada primary goes through three phases. Hillary won the first one, then Bernie won the second. He was set up to win the third, but then the Nevada DNC fucked him.

Basically, this third phase was supposed to be run by a committee of 3 people appointed by the Clinton party and 3 people appointed by the Bernie party. Instead, the Nevada DNC appointed all six. This committee then wanted to change the rules to make it so that the winner of the first round won the whole thing and wanted to put it to a vote. They did it verbally, and despite the overwhelming NO they said it was a yes and that the decision was final. The Bernie folks were complained some more and I guess they were going to put it to another vote, but before any of the Bernie supporters could register, they took the vote and, surprise! it passed again.

If anyone ever says to you that America is a democracy it's your duty to laugh in their face.

May 14, 2016 - 23:21

Andrew Nelson

There is climate change. It is not made man made, though. That's just a new age trope.

May 15, 2016 - 00:04

Michael Nelson

Climate change will always occur with or without human involvement, but we are absolutely altering the rate of change drastically. It's not just "a new age trope" whatever the fuck that is supposed to mean.

May 15, 2016 - 00:07

Jayden Martin

Lmao, it's a climate change denier in the wild. Yes it is, buddy; an overwhelming majority of scientists agree.

May 15, 2016 - 00:16

Nolan Howard

It means that people parrot climate change is real because it's a "leftist" meme.
There are also scientists that say it is not true. Why do you think is that?

May 15, 2016 - 00:24

Nicholas Howard

>an overwhelming majority of scientists
and hundreds of peer-reviewed studies

May 15, 2016 - 00:28

Blake Green

There will always be a sect of researchers that will contradict whatever conclusions are drawn by study so long as there are special interest groups willing to fund them to say otherwise. A well known example being the fight to prove lead is poisonous to humans.

It doesn't matter who or how many people say something, so basing your opinion on climate change based on this is fallacious. However, so is the idea that pointing this fallacy out in any way validates your point of view. The only thing that matters is that the evidence is falsifiable and reproducable. In the case of climate change, it is demonstrably so by a huge margin.

May 15, 2016 - 00:35

Juan Cruz

...

May 15, 2016 - 00:36

Cameron Hughes

So? An overwhelming majority of people is also stupid.
You can explain their increasing acceptance of man made climate change by peer pressure. The more this topic gets attention in the public the more they will start shifting opinions to avoid vilification.
All these studies are but statistics. This is not real science. You can't actually prove anything with these. We STILL barely know anything about clime. Scientists still can't predict if tomorrow is going to rain or not. Also, you can easily bias these "proofs".
Majority proves absolutely nothing. Facts do. And the fact is, we still DONT UNDERSTAND how climate change works.

May 15, 2016 - 00:42

Connor King

mein gott.

May 15, 2016 - 00:46

Jackson Ward

Are you even trying?

May 15, 2016 - 00:47

Elijah Miller

...

May 15, 2016 - 00:48

Joshua Gomez

Causality does not imply correlation. These studies are all based from causality. And the "acceptance" by scientists are, I bet, just blind belief. I don't even believe they are "shills". I just think they are lazy.

May 15, 2016 - 00:51

Wyatt Garcia

...

May 15, 2016 - 00:53

Benjamin Walker

Not like you, I'm sure

May 15, 2016 - 00:56

John Lee

Why is it that all of your "arguments" are witty memes? I believe with good reason we can't prove with accuracy humanity's impact on climate change. You are just being a memester.

May 15, 2016 - 00:56

Oliver Garcia

When we want a lecture about which rocks to bang together to best spark a fire, then maybe we'll have use for a caveman around here.

May 15, 2016 - 00:57

Elijah Turner

Because I'm not arguing with you, for the same reason I wouldn't argue with a flat-earther.

May 15, 2016 - 00:57

Ayden Nguyen

Kind of like an overwhelming majority of scientists and hundreds of peer-reviewed studies, huh? That's a pretty good reason.

May 15, 2016 - 00:59

Gabriel King

No, he has a much better reason than that.

He bets.

May 15, 2016 - 01:00

Owen Brooks

All of those studies were done by rolling dice, user! Trust me, I know because I can namedrop some elementary fallacies that I saw on facebook comment sections!

May 15, 2016 - 01:00

Eli Myers

People like you still do not understand there's nothing "scientific"about these fields. All these studies might as well be equal to fucking rolling dice.

May 15, 2016 - 01:02

Landon Moore

fucking lol wasn't even exaggerating

I don't say this often, user, but kill yourself. That or go back to >>>Holla Forums please

May 15, 2016 - 01:03

Bentley Jackson

I guess so, if some butthurt retard with an irrational emotional stake in the "climate change is a hoax" conspiracy theory said so online.

Please don't cite any metareviews though, citations would only weaken the purity of your fiat claims.

May 15, 2016 - 01:05

Luis Davis

Please, be angrier that you are believing in the scientific equivalent of third wave feminism

May 15, 2016 - 01:06

Benjamin Taylor

Am I? That remains to be seen, considering that you haven't supplied any evidence better than your irrelevant and unsubstantial tantrums.

May 15, 2016 - 01:07

Kayden Bailey

Good thing we've got you to tell us folks what's what then, huh?

Dunning-Kruger is a powerful force indeed.

May 15, 2016 - 01:07

Jason Martin

Wow, and I am the edgy one with the facebook terms.

You first. Supply more evidence aside from "muh scientists".

May 15, 2016 - 01:11

Levi Jones

Burden of proof is on the claimant, I'm afraid, and that's you. Whether you choose to be proven a retard because you don't understand burden of proof or because you don't have any sources makes no difference to me, but please stop trying to worm your way out of having to own your position with these desperation moves to jettison your responsibility.

May 15, 2016 - 01:15

Benjamin Gonzalez

A lot of "scientists" agreeing is no proof (this is more bureucracy and politics than actual science), If knowledge relied on consensus then we would still be thinking the earth is flat (As someone here accused me of).
Also, I'm not a "conspiracy theorist", and I'm not a "rightist". There is actual research put into disproving man made global warming. An example: arxiv.org/abs/0707.1161

May 15, 2016 - 01:21

Christopher Martinez

Consensus is not "bureaucracy", it is the product of years of replication studies arriving at a common, refined thesis statement. Your unreplicated anomalous paper does not have the weight of multiple independent recreations on it's side and can therefore be dismissed for the outlier it is, just as you can be dismissed as an ignoramus who has no concept of the role replication plays in science.

May 15, 2016 - 01:23

Blake Mitchell

Yeah if a "replication of studies" proves my shit gives you telepathy and an anomalous paper says "don't be retarded, it doesn't" I guess we should dismiss the latter as an "ignoramus"
nice one reddit!

May 15, 2016 - 01:27

Jordan Barnes

Just stop pretending that you understand science, because you don't. You'd never even heard of replication until just now. You're a bitter caveman who wants to lash out at any idea that is associated with his ideological rivals and/or might necessitate changes in your habits and behavior, so you're desperately seeking justifications for your pettiness.

As we speak right now, you are hard at work trying to devise some new way of anticipating references to reproducibility in the future, so you won't get tripped up again the way you did here. Of course it'll all rely on you making bullshit claims without proof and expecting people to take them seriously, but the important thing is that you don't have to endure the humiliation of publicly admitting you were wrong, and that's all that matters to you.

May 15, 2016 - 01:33

Benjamin Anderson

Typical misunderstanding burden of proof from an ignorant cretin.

May 15, 2016 - 01:38

Mason Taylor

Did you even read the link?
No, you didn't.
Also, you probably would be better off voting for Hillary. She seems to represent well your conformist and unquestioning attitude.
By the way, the world is not going to end because you didn't buy an electric car. I can fucking assure you oil will end before a major cataclysm happens because of it. I can assure you a volcano will cause a major extinction before the "green house effect" does. There are far more important things than this stupid climate change trend.
But whatever, I don't really give a shit about what you believe in.

May 15, 2016 - 01:44

Elijah Carter

Oh I definitely have read the Gerlich and Tscheuschner paper, several years ago in fact when it first came out and it was shortly thereafter utterly ripped to shreds by every serious climate scientist for numerous methodological errors. It keeps popping up now and then because rightwing cavemen who think they can bullshit their way past people with actual science and engineering backgrounds take the title at face value, which is all they can really do because they don't have the training or skill required to read a peer-reviewed scientific paper.

At this point, the Gerlich and Tscheuschner has more value as a red flag to indicate that you're dealing with an unserious retard who just googles whatever fits his predetermined worldview in a selective and cherry-picked manner. Serious commentators on climate science have already read all the rebuttals, such as worldscientific.com/doi/abs/10.1142/S021797921005555X

May 15, 2016 - 01:49

Anthony Murphy

I saw more name than arguments there.
I still stand by: Nothing is going to happen.

May 15, 2016 - 01:59

Christian Morgan

You can stand by whatever silly thing you want to stand by, nobody has any reason to take you seriously or believe that you're taking your stance out of anything other than infantile pride and fear of admitting stupidity.

Let's start with the first giant methodological failure Gerlich and Tscheuschner made - why did they attempt to only apply the Clausius statement of the Second Law to a single side of a heat transfer process? Why would that be justified?

Hell, do you even know what the Clausius Statement of the Second Law is, or are you just a bullshitting rightwing caveman with a childish vendetta against science and moral obligations?

May 15, 2016 - 02:03

Henry Watson

COUP AT THE NEVADA DNC! CROUD OVERWHELMINGLY VOTES AGAINST A PROPOSAL AND CHAIRWOMAN JUST FUCKING DECIDES TO IGNORE IT THEM ALL AND GIVE NEVADA TO CLINTON! LITERAL ELECTION FRAUD ON VIDEO, NOT EVEN JOKING HERE! AFTERWARDS SHE RUNS AWAY BEHIND THE POLICE! REDDITORS ARE MAD BECAUSE THEY ARE BEING CENSORED BY REDDIT MODS!

realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/05/15/chaos_at_nevada_democratic_convention_dnc_leaders_flee_building_as_sanders_supporters_demand_recount.html

youtu.be/5srPXtJV0V0

periscope.tv/w/agan2DkwNTY0MzV8MVlwSmtqUmJNb05HanqcbDfXxocPkFqJ8oK759CVpNyIQUAe67ZKt7WW8-64

facebook.com/youngprogressivevoices/posts/1171410042903030

reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4je5tl/can_we_archive_all_videos_taken_today_at_the/

twitter.com/BernieVolunteer/status/731750706193932288

Motion to recount is made: youtu.be/w1V5q54zBe0?t=17m

That motion is shit upon, convention is closed: youtu.be/w1V5q54zBe0?t=21m43s

Temporary convention rules voted on, people ignored: youtube.com/watch?v=kEsb9MftJC8

May 15, 2016 - 02:42

Luis Hernandez

I admit their paper is flawed. Just linked them because people here were too eager to speak in the name of science but could not present real arguments.
I just didn't expect there was someone here who would actually discuss what I was discussing. I was largely trolling.
Still, I remain highly skeptical of warmists :^ )

May 15, 2016 - 02:46

Bentley Bell

This is the largest and most hilarious example of "I was just pretending" I have ever seen. I'm screencapping this shit.

May 15, 2016 - 02:49

Brandon Kelly

Would Bernie Sanders-flavored GG be a good thing, or a bad thing?

May 15, 2016 - 02:50

Owen Cruz

You got that wrong. I am not pretending. I mean everything I said.

May 15, 2016 - 02:53

Brayden Hall

Bad. Bernie Sanders-flavored riots would be better.

May 15, 2016 - 02:54

Blake Flores

You couldn't present real arguments either, retard; you just copied and pasted something you saw that superficially appeared to support your prejudices, and now you're trying to backpedal out of admitting you're too stupid to understand science.

You have no legitimate scientific basis for your "skepticism" of global warming, you're just a cringing bitch who doesn't have the balls to admit he's in over his head and is scrambling for excuses. Pride is always more important to retards than truth.

May 15, 2016 - 02:55

Chase Carter

It's even more retarded to believe the greenhouse effect will end the world :^)

May 15, 2016 - 03:02

Henry Ramirez

Liberal condescension towards white workers is code for a broader anti-working class agenda.
jacobinmag.com/2016/05/white-workers-bernie-sanders-clinton-primary-racism/

May 15, 2016 - 03:03

Eli Robinson

Nope, because the science, which you are too much of a retard to understand, is against you.

Tell me again why the Clausius Statement can be justified for a single surface? Nope, can't, you're a retarded science denier.

May 15, 2016 - 03:04

Kevin Morales

HAHAHA, statistics are not science.
Climate science might as well be called economy of climate.

May 15, 2016 - 03:06

Nicholas Hall

"Hahaha", the Clausius statement of the Second Law is not "statistics."

Now you're just blithering random hail-mary arguments out of desperation, because you know how little stands between you and just one more humiliating public confession that science is too hard for you.

May 15, 2016 - 03:08

Isaiah Jackson

Look, this happened:
I just searched for that link to prove that badmouthing the theory man made climate change was just as "scientifical" as advocating for it. I was wrong about that article. I just skimmed through it and posted it because I'm anonymous and I was doing sloppy work. I didn't expect someone actuallly knew about it and was a passionate attacker of their view.
My real argument is that there's not enough evidence to prove correlation between C02 concentration and global warming.
Yes, I'm definitely not a scientist, but my intentions are very far from "blabla cavemen rightist". I remain "prejudiced" because every ignorant I know (At least in my country) feels better about themselves when they use bycicles instead of a car because they are "saving the world". It feels off, and the evidence, to me, seems sketchy.
I'll provide a better argument next time.

May 15, 2016 - 03:19

Jose Jackson

And who are you to decide what is or isn't "enough" evidence to prove that CO2 drives global warming? If you don't understand the Clausius theorem and it's relationship to the Second Law, why on earth should anyone believe that you have enough education to make an informed opinion about this subject, for or against it?

You may not be a rightwinger, but you're definitely a caveman, and you were drawn to this position for selfish reasons about wanting to retaliate against caricatured smug liberals - which is something that has nothing to do with science one way or the other. Maybe before you go around pretending you have the ability to make informed decisions about climate science, you should get some therapy and deal with your inability to keep your dislike of people separate from the scientific data.

May 15, 2016 - 03:23

Evan Jones

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May 15, 2016 - 03:25

Easton Scott

...

May 15, 2016 - 03:30

Levi Rogers

You are a very funny and pretentious guy.
Sure, it's been a while since I have a physics class, but, get some therapy for entertaining myself in an anonymous board? I hope you are not serious.
I assure you, too, that most people who support climate change don't know shit about it. And yeah, I have no direct knowledge of the subject, but I have read quite a bit about it and for me it makes a lot of sense. Can you spot the correlation between CO2 concentration and global warming
I remain absolutely entitled to my opinion, specially on a fucking anonymous board.
Your kind of elitism is disgusting.

May 15, 2016 - 03:41

Jaxson Morales

So you're going with the classic "I didn't mean it" backpedal? Fine, I pick the classic "sure you didn't" comeback.

You're entitled to have whatever opinion you like on climate science, it just won't be an informed or valuable opinion. It would be like asking you to tell me what you thought of a Sumerian text, even though you maybe only comprehend five words in their language.

It's not "elitist" to point out the simple fact that this is not a discipline in which you have honed any skill or knowledge.

May 15, 2016 - 03:44

Isaac Morris

Not backpedaling at all. My opinion remains the same.
Why such a hostile attitude against a different point of view though? I just humbly admitted that I don't know A LOT about the topic, and you attacked me saying that I was retarded the whole time.
I would love to know more about thermodynamics but, but that's just not my field user. My brother is a physicist though, and a a large part of my opinions come from him.
But yeah, I should just stop posting and sleep. I got a bit emotionally involved.

May 15, 2016 - 03:54

Tyler Hill

...

May 15, 2016 - 05:24

Carson Powell

I wonder if those retards that shit one GG care about reddit censorship now

May 15, 2016 - 05:26

Tyler Bell

way to lose all the Sanders Supporters, Shillary.
#BERNIEORBULLETS

May 15, 2016 - 05:49

Kayden Adams

The only thing that bothers me about Trump and Hillary is what American democracy will do with only one effective party… since I predict the total collapse of the GOP in the 2016 election. This bothers me. One party rule is never good.

May 15, 2016 - 06:00

Jonathan Collins

the current two parties are just one party anyway. it's all a sham.

May 15, 2016 - 06:14

Ethan Campbell

You included? Faggot.

May 15, 2016 - 06:19

Henry Clark

Time for the Communist Party of America to rise again.

May 15, 2016 - 06:51

Liam Walker

we would need a new party

May 15, 2016 - 07:23

Brayden Price

We're coming buckos

May 15, 2016 - 07:32

Caleb Foster

A new party is definitely happening. Bernie meant a new party by "political revolution" and just yesterday he said he isn't a "savior" and what needs to happen is a "political movement" with or without the Dem Party, depending which side they take.

Also there are active efforts to unify the sane Socialist and green parties. I saw a petition the other day with 10k+ signatures calling for a united front. If you go on Bernie pages the comments are dominated by people saying the DNC is corrupt. It seemed impossible earlier a new party would happen but now it's inevitable.

May 15, 2016 - 07:35

Julian Ward

nice

May 15, 2016 - 07:38

Noah Clark

...

May 15, 2016 - 10:36

Isaac Roberts

...

May 15, 2016 - 11:45

Connor Harris

Hahaha wow, you even got your meme wrong.
Causality definitely does imply correlation. It's correlation that doesn't imply causality.

May 15, 2016 - 11:47

Ryder Turner

...

May 15, 2016 - 12:01

John Thomas

S L I C K
L
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K

May 15, 2016 - 13:54

Joseph Miller

...

May 15, 2016 - 13:55

Levi Price

THE SLICKEST

May 15, 2016 - 14:05

Jack Gutierrez

This lady here seems to be claiming the Sanders Campaign had some hand in working against the Sanders delegates too: youtu.be/6vEs5uoHXz4?t=12m30s

What does she mean by this?

May 15, 2016 - 14:16

David Myers

wsws was right

May 15, 2016 - 14:36

Nolan Morales

She accuses the local Sanders campaign of working against them.
More a sign of infiltrators than anything. Sounds more likely than trots being right about anything ever.

May 15, 2016 - 15:06

Caleb Long

That's what happened in North Carolina allegedly

May 15, 2016 - 15:10

Joseph Thomas

What I'm curious about his how much of this shit has gone unnoticed

May 15, 2016 - 15:15

Nathaniel Mitchell

Well fuck, they are getting desperate aren't they.

Thanks for taking the time to explain this comrade.

Fix your site cripplewheels

May 15, 2016 - 15:19

Jack Gomez

Anyone got a link to that guys videos?

May 15, 2016 - 15:20

Brandon Cruz

Word on the street is that the DNC is in panic mode due to Hillary's impending indictment and they're try to scrounge up every single delegate they can to give to Biden at the convention if/when Hillary gets a visit from the 4chan party van

May 15, 2016 - 15:30

Kayden Morgan

You have anything on that? I'm not surprised, though. Last week I saw something on how Biden was interested and felt he could do better than all the current candidates. Also how he was talking with Warren about the run, which TBH would be a master play by the DNC but still turn into revolt.

May 15, 2016 - 15:46

Lincoln Rogers

care to post an example of this

May 15, 2016 - 16:53

Elijah Butler

Jesus Christ America

May 15, 2016 - 16:56

Jordan White

Unfortunately not. It's just the scuttlebutt.

May 15, 2016 - 17:15

Logan Baker

I so fucking hope she's indicted and dem party just falls apart

May 15, 2016 - 17:30

John Ramirez

Her indictment would probably more likely save it to be honest.

May 15, 2016 - 17:38

Liam Hernandez

how so? If Shillary gets indicted then they either giver her delegates to Biden (ruins the party's credibility) or Sanders becomes presidents (tries to fix dem party from within)

May 15, 2016 - 17:48

Adam Carter

I like to call it Woozworld.

Dis.
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By the way, for people talking about Biden stealing the nom- very, very unlikely. He's old as shit and isn't even going to be running to reclaim his old Senate seat, he's just quitting. He was saying as recently as March that not running was the right decision, though he was indecisive. They wouldn't think to try it and he wouldn't let it happen.

Exactly, Biden won't happen and Sanders will help them.

May 15, 2016 - 17:54

Bentley Nguyen

I think you're overestimating people's ability to be critical of these matters. I think at this point it's pretty clear that Shill is like a sinking ship and if they dump her delegates to Biden then they could scapegoat Shill and "unite" the party. I think a lot of people are probably just looking for an excuse to not back Shill in the worst case and to clean their hands of the matter. Democrats are mostly looking for more of the same. Sanders will not be accepted without a fight. Biden might be the intermediate that people find "acceptable." I hope this isn't the case, mind you. I hope people stay angry.

May 15, 2016 - 17:55

Evan Cruz

TRUMP: MEN TODAY "ARE PETRIFIED TO SPEAK TO WOMEN ANYMORE"

How will Trump and his chumps fight Hillary and her feminist thugs if they can't even look at them without pissing themselves in fear?

May 15, 2016 - 17:57

Benjamin Cook

Dems would be saved because both Biden and Sanders would be stronger candidates. Biden has openly stated that Warren would be a good vice, a pretty obvious move to satisfy the left wing of the party.

DNC isn't ever going to let Sanders win. Shillary going down via unlikely indictment and Biden not allowing himself to be drafted will just result in the delegates running to another candidate. Sure, that would kill the party's credibility. But they don't care. Dem elites think they have a blowout on their hands in a race against Trump, ignoring all signs that people hate what the DNC is serving up just as much.

May 15, 2016 - 17:59

James Bell

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAH

May 15, 2016 - 18:00

Gavin Allen

beta as fuck

May 15, 2016 - 18:01

Lucas Powell

They're stupid but they're not THAT stupid.

May 15, 2016 - 18:17

Jackson Anderson

I'd be against chemtrails if we assume thats a thing.

May 15, 2016 - 18:17

Lincoln Reed

No, they are that stupid. The DNC Chairwoman was openly ignoring poll results because they didn't fit with her world view.

May 15, 2016 - 18:45

Carter Scott

The difference is DWS is basically a Clinton campaign surrogate. Not every superdelegate is a Clinton campaign surrogate.

May 15, 2016 - 18:59

Anthony Roberts

Betacuck confirmed

May 15, 2016 - 19:44

Colton Ortiz

We're coming.

May 15, 2016 - 19:59

Christopher Cooper

Is there an article?

May 15, 2016 - 21:45

Michael Thompson

No I'm just saying if it weren't for how much of a snake Hillary is and the blatant and wide-open corruption going on people wouldn't have had as much reason to question what they stand for.

May 15, 2016 - 21:57

William Gray

How pathetic is it that Clinton is struggling so much against Trump of all people? I'm fed up with the DNC, they want to put up somebody who has a higher risk of losing the general just so they have their candidate they all have financial connections to.

May 15, 2016 - 22:39

Aaron Rivera

Why, WHY can't the Democratic party just do this again? Labor unions, public works, Keynesian fiscal management, trustbusting, redistributive taxes, social safety nets, tighter regulations, let go of the immigration and offshoring, only fight wars people want you in.

It's not so hard, the things voters see in Bernie and Trump aren't mysteries, and they aren't new.

May 16, 2016 - 01:26

Adam Brooks

Vote Hillary, she'll make many white male tears flow!!!!!!

May 16, 2016 - 01:28

Josiah Ross

I know, he's such a fucking woman hater!

May 16, 2016 - 01:29

Luke Sanchez

What part of "bourgeois democracy" don't you understand?

May 16, 2016 - 01:34

Anthony Morgan

die white cis scum

May 16, 2016 - 01:35

Josiah James

If they can rig the votes for Hillary over Bernie, they can rig the votes for Hillary over Trump. There's no "risk" involved.

May 16, 2016 - 01:41

Leo Martin

So is the philly convention going to be 68 all over again with this Nevada shit?

May 16, 2016 - 07:01

Isaac Collins

No they can't. Primaries aren't the same as the general election. The media will be out for blood then. If there's even a whiff of what's DNC's doing now, there will be fucking chaos.

May 16, 2016 - 07:08

Oliver Kelly

You mean a largely masturbatory protest that helped galvanize the nation to support the Republican Party? Let's hope not.

May 16, 2016 - 07:10

Luke Wright

The "media" has been facilitating this every step of the way because they work for the same people that are rigging the election you delusional fuckpile

May 16, 2016 - 07:18

Angel Long

If you say half of republicans are trump supporters and half of democrats are Sanders supporters and include say 90% of independents in the group that favors unions, safety net, etc. (republican spooks about not giving it to "lazy people" aside) that produces a two thirds majority. The real reason is a) complacency and b) the status quo always has the upper hand, the fact that it only started being the status quo about 30 years ago and what came before it lasted about 55 (which itself was preceded by a period similar to our own which also lasted about 50 years).
God I hope he wins. For America, for Puerto Rico, for the world.

May 16, 2016 - 07:26

Oliver Moore

There will be blood.

May 16, 2016 - 07:32

Nolan Morgan

Wait did the shill vs sanders supporter thing actually happen?

May 16, 2016 - 07:42

Benjamin Scott

God fucking dammit niggers, when the revolution happens I will be blasting tracks like "Through The Slams And Jams", "Digimon- Brave Heart ~tri. Version~" and "Cruel Angels Thesis 1.5x Speed" from every speaker. The proles will need a soundtrack fit for fistfighting an army of gods, because the stakes will be that high. I am so hype. but if we do it the easy way and Sanders wins the nom and that's that then that's good too

Yeah dude, it was a pissed off nig celebrity who assaulted a woman at like 3 30 am mostly just for not being a Hill Shill. So much for BernieBros being woman hater sexist violent harassing dudebros. It's like GG all over again, the shills create a story nobody who's been paying attention believes, the media reports it, it becomes canonical. Hill Shills were voted almost as aggressive as Trumpchumps but they will discard that poll and insinuate that the 1000+ active twitter users making political posts were all BernieBros, which is obviously impossible because of the above, but point it out and they block you.

May 16, 2016 - 08:02

Jeremiah Lee

Its going that way, the corporate liberal media is ignoring all of this, they laugh at the gop falling apart even though trump is consolidating his power and all the anti trump people are bending the knee, meanwhile the media and DNC are doing everything in their power to make pretend everything is going great and the house isnt on fire, the oligarchy will continue #imwithher.
This is just making more bad blood between the democratic socialists and the mainstream new democrats.
I figure by the end of this the democratic party will be irreversibly split in two while trump and the GOP sit back and laugh

May 16, 2016 - 08:14

Gavin Evans

It's fucking appalling my dude. There's this Teabagger in my History class who spoke against Trump until the day he won the nomination, and then shows up to class with a Trump shirt. When the New Right (more like the Old Right but regardless) calls them "cucks" they really aren't kidding, I've never seen anyone make so many people his fucking bitch so quickly.

May 16, 2016 - 08:39

Jayden Perez

So many shit threads… Are people trying to slide the board? This thread itself was getting shitstormed by someone about climate change, I see.

The OP from the "sunbathing thread" seems to want to make Holla Forums look like a bunch of shuddersome stalkers.

Last time I glanced at the remnants of GG, they were back to sitting around screaming and pounding their chests while zoey quinn and eron gjoni tried to sue/jail each other over something or other. Like I'm watching bad reality tv.

See:

May 16, 2016 - 10:18

James Torres

I'm about 89% sure its one of the reddit groups that hate us. 10% it's a Holla Forumsack. 1% it's one of us.

May 16, 2016 - 10:23

Isaac Gonzalez

archive.is/wAwFa

May 16, 2016 - 10:27

Blake Butler

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

May 16, 2016 - 10:30

Chase Nguyen

The hell is wrong with them?

Hey reddit! Why don't you go raid Holla Forums, /baphomet/, /cow/ or any of the innumerable pedophile boards on this godforsaken site? Don't want to? Too much effort?

Oh, but why attack actual neo-nazis and cyberstalkers when you can just raid Holla Forums, of which some random user dared disagree with you on politics?

Fucking wankers.

May 16, 2016 - 10:43

Eli Martinez

to them we're worse than Holla Forums because we're heretics rather than simple nonbelievers

May 16, 2016 - 11:43

Ethan Cox

this
it's like we're aryan christians and they are the catholic church
they hate us more than muslims because they are outsiders but we're subversive to the faith

May 16, 2016 - 11:54

Benjamin Foster

*Arian

May 16, 2016 - 12:02

Cameron Richardson

yeah I forgot how to spell it

May 16, 2016 - 12:05

Gabriel Lee

Why do people think GG is the vanguard against media corruption?
They aren't the only ones keeping track.

May 16, 2016 - 12:52

Jonathan Cooper

To be fair, their email campaign to cut off Gawker's advertisers was pretty clever.

Nobody ever seems to talk about this campaign (outside of chans). Must have really spooked the media.

May 16, 2016 - 13:07

Juan Mitchell

Did it really work?

May 16, 2016 - 13:11

Adam Russell

Several advertises pulled their sponsorship costing gawker media millions of dollars in lost revenue

May 16, 2016 - 13:16

Andrew Brooks

From what I remember, it was difficult for advertisers to openly give in to the email campaign, but it did happen.

Intel did it openly, not realizing they were about to get thrashed by angry twitter mobs and forced to fork over money to implement "diversity training" as an olive branch. Other advertisers didn't want to get fucked like Intel, but they slowly pulled support anyway. They did it quietly. There's an article about it somewhere.

May 16, 2016 - 13:21

Nathaniel Allen

That's pretty standard, honestly.

May 16, 2016 - 13:30

Owen Lopez

It wasn't just the media. It was because GG was the first time (aside from maybe Atheism+) the rank-and-file in some subculture dared to stand up as one to the lies, insults, and censorship from the forum mods, false-flagging trolls, lawsuit-happy attentionwhores, media, corporate PR flacks, internal HR parasites, and screeching academic "social studies" pseudoscientists, and called them on their bullshit without apologizing.

Sure, it fell apart about 8 months in, but not until it had taught them they didn't own us, couldn't rely on political correctness to shield them, and their excesses could now result in severe consequences.

We also purged the filth wholly or entirely from several venues (The Escapist being the best example), pushed import shops forward greatly to bypass translation censorship, and made Holla Forums into the biggest 4chan alternative outside Japan, among other things.

May 16, 2016 - 13:31

Adam Sanchez

Well, it allowed them to survive and get results despite being driven into a corner. And boy, is 4chan Holla Forums a shitty corner to be driven into when you're trying to organize your shit.

stormies get out REEEEEE

May 16, 2016 - 13:37

Logan Flores

Is 420chan not bigger?

May 16, 2016 - 13:38

Nathan Collins

project chanology did the same thing.

May 16, 2016 - 14:03

John Morris

reddit.com/r/sandersforpresident/comments/4jid77/basic_stepbystepof_what_went_down_yesterday_at/

*BASIC STEP-BY-STEP OF WHAT WENT DOWN! *

It's easy to feel outrage, but difficult to SHARE outrage when you aren't confident about explaining to others what is going on. I did my best here to compile background info and a breakdown of yesterday's events so we can educate ourselves and, subsequently, educate others.

BACKGROUND INFO:

Nevada Caucus - has 3 tiers, 3rd tier wins state/delegates:

1st Tier (main televised caucus Feb 20th): Hillary won
2nd Tier (April 2nd): flipped to Bernie
3rd Tier (May 14th): last night's shitshow

(1st Tier Feb 20th problem: At the county level convention 20% of the voters at the original caucus were missing valid ballots. So 20% of the delegates were up for grabs. That means Hillary did not legitimately win the first round of caucus and that is an important factor everyone is leaving out. - Thanks to /u/vamub

for pointing this out.)

Shady rule-changing prior to last night:

Nevada Democratic Party knew that based on the 2nd Tier vote, the 3rd Tier would probably go to Bernie. They didn't want this. So they changed some rules around!
Changed the Nevada Democratic Party rules so that Nevada's delegates would be awarded to the winner of the Feb 20th 1st Tier (ie Hillary).
However, they also knew that educated people would try to make motions at the convention to object to this rule, and that those motions would probably pass! So….
They also changed the Nevada Democratic Party rules so that all votes on the floor of the convention would be decided ONLY by a voice vote (all in favor say "aye", etc), and that the results of that voice vote would be decided ONLY by Nevada Democratic Party Chair Roberta Lange, and that her say was FINAL.

When you heard people talk about "Temporary Rules" last night, it was referring to these rules.

WHAT HAPPENED YESTERDAY:

"Temporary Rules" debacle:

Item #1 on agenda of convention was to vote for these "Temporary Rules" to pass. This was conducted by paper ballot.
Vote was supposed to be held after convention started, but instead it was held immediately at 10 am early at 9:30 when not everyone was inside the convention and not everyone who was inside had ballots. But you know who was inside and had all their ballots ready? All the Hillary earlybirds (early-hawks) that knew this vote was going to happen early. Vote passed.
Motion to have a re-vote of the Temporary Rules was demanded by citizens. Nevada Democratic Party Chair Roberta Lange instead held a voice vote that the temporary rules would stay. Some AYES, resounding NAYS. But who cares! She votes to pass it. Video of that CHILLING MOMENT here, (PS the beginning of this video is confusing because Roberta Lange is on screen, but the voice is from a woman talking OFF-screen. The voice is of a concerned citizen demanding a re-vote.) : youtube.com/watch?v=5srPXtJV0V0

May 16, 2016 - 14:30

Jayden Edwards

Sanders delegates debacle:

64 delegates were ejected from the convention because they didn't have "the proper credentials", even though they did. They weren't allowed to prove they were credentialed. Shady.
Most, if not all, of these ejected were Sanders delegates.
Therefore, Clinton won by 30 delegates. How convenient.

Highlights from the resulting daylong/nightlong shitstorm:

Barbara Boxer mocks Sanders supporters (who were objecting to how things were going down): realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/05/15/barbara_boxer_to_nevada_democrats_if_you_boo_me_youre_booing_bernie_sanders.html

Roberta Lange commandeered all mics and surrounded herself by police so that no Sanders people could get on the mic

Eventually Dan Rolle (NV 2nd Congressional District Candidate) was able to get on the mic and he made a motion to call for the removal of Roberta Lange as Chair. As soon as he made that motion, his microphone was cut immediately. Of course. Motion was ignored. Great explanation of why this motion was ignored, here. Thanks /u/wormhog!
Happens at 42:40 here: periscope.tv/FenyxFX/1yNGawjozjrxj CRAP this periscope link expired - NEW LINK: Happens at 42:40 here: youtu.be/P48-SrmBHKw?t=43m24s

Nevada Democratic Party employs stalling tactics and psychological tactics to try to force people to leave. Making them wait hours while nothing happened, playing music SUPER LOUD, charging $5 for tiny little bottles of water. People online started ordering pizza for those inside. Some pizzas got in, but once it was realized what was going on, police started intercepting the pizzas and throwing them in the dumpster. the pizzas had to be moved outside.

Jesse Sbaih (NV 3rd Congressional District Candidate) gets on microphone and makes motion for a recount to resounding cheers. Motion is ignored (it is against the rules to ignore a motion). Happens at 16:50 here: youtu.be/8n2-u1P3uHM?t=16m50s

Roberta Lange jumps onstage and in like 15 seconds makes a bunch of motions that basically say "all the shady votes that happened here tonight stand, the pro-Hillary delegate results stand, and this meeting is adjourned". She does voice votes on all this. NAYs are ridiculously louder every time. But she passes everything regardless, ignoring the nays, then runs off stage. COMPLETE CHAOS ENSUES Videos of this: From Periscope Superhero FENYXFX great video, 21:42 here: youtube.com/watch?v=8n2-u1P3uHM&feature=youtu.be&t=21m42s
From Adryenn Ashley - great closeup video, start at 3:50 facebook.com/AdryennAshley/videos/10153761902337695/ From Asia Zamora, this one well captures the pain and sadness of the aftermath of democracy being stolen from us, start at 2:30 though: facebook.com/asia.zamora.3/videos/1195756427101567/

Police come in and everyone is told to leave or they will get arrested. Here's a pic: mobile.twitter.com/Clyatt/status/731725898211151872
Video of DNC leaders running out side door: facebook.com/AlexanderLChambers/videos/1059531310749260/

RESULTS: By the rule change and delegate suppression there is a change of 8 net delegates. Instead of Bernie winning by 19-16, the result is 20-15 Clinton now. Thank you to /u/puppuli
for this info!

May 16, 2016 - 14:30

William Wright

SHOUTOUTS:

Periscope User FENYXFX - Internet Superhero of the Night!!!
Periscope User SENSESTAKER - took over for FENYXFX when his battery ran out and he had to recharge
EVERYONE who stayed up last night and helped disseminate information online.
Most of all - EVERY SINGLE GOOD, HONEST CITIZEN AT THAT CONVENTION WHO STAYED UP LATE TO REPRESENT US!!

ADDITIONAL RESOURCES:

Another great timeline from user /u/sublime_revenge

reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4jdn3y/nevada_democratic_convention_mega_thread/d36591z
Great 10 minute long explanation of events from Dan Rolle here: youtube.com/watch?v=W_7c0I8ODKw
Another super great video explaining what when down (thanks /u/treein303
!): youtube.com/watch?v=tVa4G32M7Bc
A great firsthand account of the night - thanks to friend of /u/PeopleWhoDrawStuff
! youtu.be/Hk8MOP_oviU
Lots of pics and videos of the night here: berniesandersvideo.com/the-nevada-democratic-convention.html
An FAQ + discussion about the nights events from a comment in /r/NevadaForSanders
: reddit.com/r/NevadaForSanders/comments/4jexj9/what_happened_in_nv_today/d36fmcf

INFORMATION AGE ACTIVISM: While hashtags may seem like a silly trend, they are integral to Information Age Activism.

Think of them as creating a virtual meeting room, for bringing people/information together who are scattered around the world.
When you make a call to activism, direct others which hashtag is being used.
The hashtags for this Nevada convention shitshow are #TeamBernieNV and #NVDemConvention. Use these with everything you share on social media.

Please correct me on any details I have wrong. I just wanted to put together a simple timeline for people to understand the significance and background of the videos they are seeing.

May 16, 2016 - 14:31

Hunter Morales

NUCLEAR

May 16, 2016 - 14:36

Gabriel Sullivan

The sheer audacity to pull a stunt like this is and think they could get away with it is incredible.

May 16, 2016 - 14:38

Colton Diaz

But they did get away with it

May 16, 2016 - 14:40

Liam Cox

archive.is/FwW5o#selection-29040.0-29043.40

This deserves its own thread comr8s

May 16, 2016 - 14:40

Blake Phillips

They're killing their own state party.

May 16, 2016 - 14:43

Jack Ross

You know he just copy-pasted that from reddit, right?

May 16, 2016 - 14:44

Leo Wood

archive.is/aGjCz

Yes, does this deserve its own thread?

May 16, 2016 - 15:08

Michael Green

Not really

May 16, 2016 - 15:11

Logan Thomas

I kind of think it does, but I don't know.

May 16, 2016 - 15:56

Nicholas Edwards

Why were the delegates there?
How does this process work exactly?

May 16, 2016 - 16:15

Thomas Miller

1) Put your votes into a box
2) Democracy??????
3) Shut up and get back to work prole

May 16, 2016 - 16:30

Easton Campbell

The delegates have to be vetted in some manner by a committee just before/at the convention. This crap is in my state bylaws too, I hope nothing fishy goes down at my convention next week.

May 16, 2016 - 16:37

Jose Lee

...

May 16, 2016 - 16:45

Jose Smith

Sheriff’s deputies called to Nevada Democratic Convention to preserve Clinton victory
wsws.org/en/articles/2016/05/16/dems-m16.html

By Patrick Martin
16 May 2016

May 16, 2016 - 17:04

Josiah Powell

...

May 16, 2016 - 17:05

Bentley Anderson

bump for cyclical

May 16, 2016 - 17:09

Evan Nguyen

nytimes.com/2016/05/14/us/politics/sheldon-adelson-donald-trump.html

washingtonpost.com/opinions/sheldon-adelson-i-endorse-donald-trump-for-president/2016/05/12/ea89d7f0-17a0-11e6-aa55-670cabef46e0_story.html

thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/279911-adelson-willing-to-donate-100-million-to-trump-report

May 16, 2016 - 17:35

Brody Campbell

It's only 2-3 months before Sanders goes on the campaign trail for Hillary. And yes, Sanders will go on the campaign trail for Hillary. Anyone who has followed Sanders during his career knows this.

He brought up a lot of good things, but you gotta fucking jump ship before he does that and support someone else, else you are just the populist wing of Hillary's assault on America.

May 16, 2016 - 18:01

Landon Edwards

Well, we'll see when the time comes, won't we?

May 16, 2016 - 18:17

Camden Lopez

After all this dirty shit I doubt many Sanders supporters would vote for Hillary even if Sanders said to and even if she gets elected I promise you she is going to get Nixon'd over this shit.

May 16, 2016 - 18:32

William Gomez

Even if Sanders endorses Hillary i'm convinced that Shillary has chased off enough independents and Sanders supporters that it'll cost her the general election.

May 16, 2016 - 18:33

Michael Clark

They'll swear off the Dems for a year maybe, and then get back on them when the Dems put out their freeze-dried knockoff Sanders' in 2020. You gotta cut the cord from the Dem Party, just stop voting or vote Green, Socialist whatever.

May 16, 2016 - 19:04

Carter Rogers

Is Hillary the new accelerationist candidate?
You know she'll try taking away people's guns and putting them in FEMAun Camps. What would it be like if the majority of voters was against almost every aspect of the president, aside from her gender? Will she put me out of my miserable if I fight back? Will my body and consciousness unite once again with the universe?
t. Oregonian

May 16, 2016 - 19:06

Daniel Wilson

what you really need to do is convince the core democratic voterbase to swear off the party. That's happening right now.
Hillary Clinton is being exposed as a right wing neoliberal right before our eyes. This is a golden opportunity to destroy the two party system.
And none of it would be possible without our slick entryist.

May 16, 2016 - 19:11

Robert Thompson

You can't spell female without FEMA.

May 16, 2016 - 19:28

Gavin Ramirez

He didn't do it for Bill Clinton, why would he do it for Hillary?

May 16, 2016 - 20:02

Alexander Garcia

Enjoy this rough draft I made for you Holla Forums

Is it any good? (It's based off of the most famous piece of Berlin Wall graffiti)

I tried to edit it to make it more visible

May 16, 2016 - 21:22

William Jenkins

You fucking normie retards he won't lose and he won't go on the campaign trail for Hillary, he won't even so much as endorse her more than a "you should really vote for her", not a "she's great".

That's great but this is the American "shit that doesn't deserve its own thread" general, not the general "shit that doesn't deserve its own thread" general.

May 16, 2016 - 21:28

Owen Nelson

...

May 16, 2016 - 22:31

Henry Kelly

Well I figured due to the subject matter it was related

Or is it that bad you can't tell who it is

May 16, 2016 - 22:40

Landon Stewart

I got it right away, user, don't worry.

May 16, 2016 - 23:19

Dylan Flores

What the actual fuck are you smoking ? If based Caesar Bernie was going to come this far going toe to crooked toe with this vile, cretinous shitstain given sentience - just to capitulate in the end - why would he bother to keep going at all right now ? Why wouldn't he have just given up after NY, when it was assured he'd be facing an increasingly uphill battle with the living puppet avatar of the c corporate establishment oligarchs? Even if he DID decide to endorse $hillary in the end and lose all credibility, do you honestly think for one moment the movement that was behind him til the end [the same group of people of whom at least close to half have stated that they would never vote for $hillary under any circumstances] would just give up and embrace their piggy overlords just because Bernie called it quits? I refuse to be demoralized and brow beat into voting for that serpent, and I know that I am not alone in this view. I truly hope she dies of a brain aneurysm before the convention in DCfor the sake of this country .

May 16, 2016 - 23:42

Caleb Brown

Obama to American youth: Stop complaining, things have never been better!
wsws.org/en/articles/2016/05/17/obam-m17.html

By Niles Niemuth
17 May 2016

May 17, 2016 - 01:22

Luis Perry

...

May 17, 2016 - 01:23

Brody Carter

how Orwellian

May 17, 2016 - 01:49

Isaac Rogers

what is 8-hour day
what are paid vacations (holy fuck, you Americans don't have that)
what is the new deal ("Then as now, opponents played the socialism card. In hearings before the Senate Finance Committee, a senator from Oklahoma accusingly asked President Franklin D. Roosevelt's secretary of Labor, Frances Perkins, "Isn't this socialism?" When Perkins emphatically answered no, the senator leaned forward and, with a conspiratorial whisper, pressed, "Isn't this a teeny-weeny bit of socialism?"" articles.latimes.com/2009/aug/14/opinion/oe-altman14)

May 17, 2016 - 01:49

Eli Bennett

If you have time to think about that stuff then you have time to shut up and get back to work

May 17, 2016 - 02:09

Andrew Bailey

We need a 4 hour day lads. It is the only way that there will be enough work to go around and the only block of work small enough so wheezy,pasty NEETs like us won't die from exhaustion joke

May 17, 2016 - 02:43

Cooper Watson

Shew! Get outta here, reddit! Go on, git!

May 17, 2016 - 06:12

David Allen

Forgot to remove shitpost flag. Messing with the Yugo poster earlier, lmao.

May 17, 2016 - 06:13

Connor Gutierrez

...

May 17, 2016 - 06:22

Colton Perry

I like it. Very nice, user.

May 17, 2016 - 06:26

Colton Phillips

Kentucky & Oregon vote tonight. Stay tuned, everyone.

I predict that Oregon will go to Sanders, Kentucky might be close. KY is my home state, and I already sent in an early ballot for Sanders. I will be elated if he takes KY, especially if by a large margin.

May 17, 2016 - 06:41

Brody White

shitposting is right

May 17, 2016 - 08:14

Isaiah Edwards

Diggler called Oregon for Sanders and KY for Clinton

May 17, 2016 - 08:29

Jack Perry

Dirk?

May 17, 2016 - 08:34

Ryder Diaz

Carl

May 17, 2016 - 08:35

Grayson Cruz

Tyler Pedigo says Oregon will be a blowout and Kentucky will be a squeeze with both for Sanders.

Puerto Rico is lit af for Sanders rn tbh fam, I'd be legit surprised if that one also isn't a blow out. He had two small rallies today and in both the attendance was more than double the space. People waited like 8 hours at his second rally at UPR for the best seats. It's an open primary, so I think even though Hillary blew Obama out last primary season, the island will finally come around and I'll be able to see what Puerto Rico was like before the depression.

Also, the independentist movement is exploding. At both rallies, when Bernie was going through his three status options they cheered for independence and at the UPR rally they booed free association/commonwealth (honestly I need to contact the campaign sooner than later about that and tell them they should put only one association option and a very specific one, free association, which is standardized and UN-approved) and statehood (which serves also to get more say and less abuse in the union, but mainly to preserve citizenship which people only really want for capital flight, presidential voting, passports, health care and welfare- all of which I see as unimportant or replaceable and a lot of which we're not getting enough of anyway. The way I see it we don't even want more say in the union, Puerto Rican affairs are so separate from the States'). I'm not kidding when I say if Sanders doesn't win we have to make another Rojava out of it.

May 17, 2016 - 08:44

Cameron Myers

oink oink!

May 17, 2016 - 08:46

Elijah Wilson

Yeah, but he's a guy under a pseudonym that pulls shit out of his ass intentionally. If Clinton wins it'll be very close.

May 17, 2016 - 08:48

Dominic Rodriguez

Here’s the message you send by not voting: you’re part of an irrelevant bloc whose needs can be completely ignored. You’re sending the message that politicians can enact policies that sell you down the river with no repercussions. The next time you find yourself thinking that sitting out an election sends a message to the Establishment, remember the old saying: if you’re not at the table, you’re probably on the menu.

May 17, 2016 - 11:39

Daniel Watson

No matter what you do they'll take it as consent.

They engaged in the system and need to accept the results! I can do as I please!

By voting for me they gave me the right do to as I please! If they don't like then they shouldn't have voted!

They don't have a say in anything! I can do as I please!

May 17, 2016 - 11:52

Robert Sanchez

...

May 17, 2016 - 12:18

Jaxson Sanchez

Is it time Gentlemen? Is the fire rising?

May 17, 2016 - 12:27

Ethan Moore

And he's been the most accurate pundit this season.

May 17, 2016 - 12:32

Hunter Diaz

It's roughly 3:31pm in KY right now(we fall under 2 time zones, in some places it's 2:30pm), and the polls close at 6pm. Still a couple of hours to go.

May 17, 2016 - 12:33

Landon Rogers

If it weren't a legitimate possibility that porky could lose the vote then they wouldn't pour in so many millions of dollars into trying to win. Don't pretend like it's always been this way and always will. Power has changed hands with real consequences.

May 17, 2016 - 12:34

Mason Diaz

...

May 17, 2016 - 12:45

Caleb Morales

bendbulletin.com/home/4330172-151/klamath-county-ballot-box-broken-into#

May 17, 2016 - 12:55

Dylan Howard

Anyone else find it highly """""convenient""""" that this Nevada thing went down the day before two important primarys?

May 17, 2016 - 12:55

Julian Moore

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Conlin

May 17, 2016 - 12:56

Henry Torres

...

May 17, 2016 - 13:05

Leo Nelson

INconvenient if anything. This'll just spur voters and encourage them to say "fuck you I'm voting"

Dees.

You game the system, nigga. It may have been designed to fuck you but that doesn't mean it has to. Voting Green sends a message.

People will be pissed.

May 17, 2016 - 13:30

Jack Martinez

I think Bill Burr summed it up best, "Trump's rise tells me they actually do count the votes".

I thought it was in this clip, but I guess it's in a different one. Still funny political commentary, though: youtube.com/watch?v=68TODj-5DQU
6:14 is great, lmao. Apologies for potato cam video, I can't find any others that have the whole context.

May 17, 2016 - 13:31

Xavier Sanders

"Bernie Sanders shuts down Andrea Mitchell's Pro-Clinton Propaganda Like a boss!"

youtube.com/watch?v=Q5-mDRDErbA

May 17, 2016 - 13:32

Sebastian Gonzalez

>Sawant unsuccessfully called for the expansion of bus and light rail capacity with a millionaire's tax. She has also unsuccessfully called for "transit justice", which would free user fares; an increase in free transit services to the poor, especially communities in south Seattle; and restriction of transit options to communities that "can afford other options" until the foregoing measures are implemented.

May 17, 2016 - 13:44

Austin Reed

If you want "real consequences" look at Alabama. Democratic supermajority replaced by a Republican supermajority at practically all levels of public office, with drastic consequences to the state.

nytimes.com/2016/05/17/us/alabama-robert-bentley-michael-hubbard-roy-moore.html

May 17, 2016 - 13:57

Oliver Foster

jesus christ America

May 17, 2016 - 13:57

Asher Parker

also
Cherry-pick harder, faggot

May 17, 2016 - 13:57

Landon Long

...

May 17, 2016 - 14:09

Liam Russell

Not if the vast majority of people are only aware of the MSM/CTR narrative of 'muh violent savages'

May 17, 2016 - 14:14

Jaxon Clark

lolled at Bernie not answering the journalist

May 17, 2016 - 14:17

Wyatt Howard

berniesanders.com/press-release/statement-nevada/

Thank fuck
By the way, there is zero evidence as far as I know that there was any violence at the convention, despite claims of chairs being thrown and fist-fights breaking out (lel)

May 17, 2016 - 14:18

Matthew Murphy

I'd throw a fucking chair if that shit was happening in front of me I mean god damn

May 17, 2016 - 14:21

Jaxon Ward

Which is worse?

It's beginning, guys.. And I'm glad this is getting national coverage, even if it's blatantly obvious in the bias. People will look into it now if they weren't aware. They're in damage control mode, and that's a great sign. They know they fucked up. Whether or not they really care is obvious, but this will piss off even more voters. This is just a taste of what's to come. God bless all the voters/delegates at that NV convention, being so passionate. That just shows what's to come on a larger scale, guys. Damn, I wish I could be there for the national Dem convention in Philly!

May 17, 2016 - 14:25

Aiden Turner

There's some weird shit going on.

It's like they are trying to intimidate them.

May 17, 2016 - 14:34

Henry Reyes

Based Sanders. He's going harder & harder, just as we wanted him to.

I hadn't even heard about that stuff, either.

May 17, 2016 - 14:35

John Hughes

oregonlive.com/today/index.ssf/2016/05/oregon_kentucky_primary_live_u.html

May 17, 2016 - 14:46

Dominic Bennett

Any early exit polls?

May 17, 2016 - 14:48

Adam Peterson

Clinton News Network is going full damage control on this

cnn.com/2016/05/17/politics/democrat-bernie-sanders-revolt/

May 17, 2016 - 15:09

Jose Moore

How can there be uncommitted votes in kentucky? Is it a caucus?

May 17, 2016 - 15:20

Leo Kelly

It's a valid strategy

May 17, 2016 - 15:20

Hunter Lewis

Another statement I liked: "Sanders Applauds Burgerville Unionizing Efforts which was organised by the wobblies"

berniesanders.com/sanders-applauds-burgerville-unionizing-efforts/

May 17, 2016 - 15:36

David Edwards

theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2016/may/17/primary-results-kentucky-oregon-election-2016

May 17, 2016 - 15:37

Hunter Rogers

kek

May 17, 2016 - 15:38

Jonathan Lopez

Yep. Hill Shills are already platinum mad, especially /r/enoughsandersspam. They seem to think (or at least say) that unless he specifically says "I'm sorry chairs got thrown (unproven), fistfights broke out (unproven), and the chair got harassment (potential false flags). It was my fault," then he's not doing enough, even though directly before the convention he told people to be orderly. This is what people mean when they say uninformed voters. I even saw one say that his statement was "condoning" what happened in a way that made it seem like they didn't read it at all (they didn't).
tbh i'm not too mad about nevada because we kind of stole it from them in the first place, the upsetting part is that it's now stronger in her favor than it was at the first stage because of the registration issue
-
OH SHIT HERE COMES BERNIE, 44.9% to 47.2% 2.3% reporting going up

May 17, 2016 - 15:42

Landon Lewis

GET IN HERE COMRADES

Basediago is literally Bernie 2.0: Posadism Edition

May 17, 2016 - 15:43

Cameron Martin

Oh also there was a general vibe from them that he was saying something to the effect of "well if you don't want that to happen then don't do that" and I can definitely understand why they would say that but truisms that miss the point are still true they missed the part where he said "I condemn violence".

Actually I guess they all had slightly different issues with it, blurred together and magnified through a lens of "Bernie Sander has the same number of letters as Zodiac Killer and they were both sexist white males". I don't understand these people. But then again I also don't understand Trump supporters, et al. it's so frustrating dealing with things that just don't make sense and never will even when they are supposed to.

May 17, 2016 - 15:46

Ian Morgan

It's a closed primary.

May 17, 2016 - 15:48

Lincoln Johnson

Way to go Burgerville! :D

May 17, 2016 - 15:49

Owen Watson

but still how can there be uncommitted votes in a primary?

May 17, 2016 - 15:50

Zachary Cruz

By best guess is that there are some people who didn't like either candidate but still voted because they wanted to affect the down the ballot primary races (for House seats, local elections, senate and such). Others may be improperly filled out ballots.

May 17, 2016 - 15:54

Jack Walker

no shit lol, you know they did actually cut of the heads of Marie Antoinette as well

May 17, 2016 - 15:54

Angel Russell

...

May 17, 2016 - 15:56

Ethan Roberts

It was just a prank

May 17, 2016 - 15:58

Liam Mitchell

They still don't get it, that they're just pushing more people towards Sanders with this blatant bias in reporting. Slandering at least half of the Democratic party base. It's been working against them so far, and it will continue to. Lmao, they're so clueless on how to handle this. Now that we have video streaming everywhere, 24/7, it's harder to push bogus narratives than it used to be.

May 17, 2016 - 16:01

Isaac Cruz

Are you people still committed in this election?

Do you actually see any chance for this guy to win?

May 17, 2016 - 16:05

Nolan Morris

He just pull ahead in Kentucky.

May 17, 2016 - 16:07

Brandon Sanchez

Did you not read the thread? Lmao.

Bernie or bust, all the way.

Of course he can win. Neither Dem can get the pledged delegates to win outright, so now it's up to the rest of the voters in upcoming states(to see who ends up with the most) & super delegates.

May 17, 2016 - 16:07

Levi Lopez

Even after Louisville(Jefferson County) & Lexington(Fayette County - my home) reporting already, he's still ahead! This is excellent news, guys!

May 17, 2016 - 16:09

Jose Lewis

Winning is irrelevant
The goal is to start the fire

May 17, 2016 - 16:10

Anthony Sanchez

no lol

May 17, 2016 - 16:12

Brandon Bell

Here they come, guys. They always show up during the primaries in this thread, to try to derail & promote defeatism.

May 17, 2016 - 16:14

Adam Cruz

Back to reddit with you my lad

May 17, 2016 - 16:15

John Gomez

This is not about Bernie.
This is about systematic change.
We don't need Bernie.
We need his ideas.

May 17, 2016 - 16:16

Hunter Fisher

You going to enjoy those two losses tonight?

May 17, 2016 - 16:16

Ryder Edwards

Bernie has to win by a lot to matter though. If Shitlery was outed as a baby eater the DNC wouldn't see her as a damaged candidate.

May 17, 2016 - 16:21

Aiden Johnson

...

May 17, 2016 - 16:23

Cameron Fisher

This is true.

Hillary is such a terrible candidate though, that Trump might actually win.
Biden is even worse, should she get indicted.

On the other hand, I am not even really convinced he'd be worse than Hillary.

May 17, 2016 - 16:24

Andrew Perry

...

May 17, 2016 - 16:25

Matthew Murphy

…meaning a contested convention

May 17, 2016 - 16:25

Evan Diaz

I'm just here for the salt harvest m8

I like you because you are honest.

I think Bernie is better than Hillary because atleast he has ideals, if I agree or disagree with those ideals of his does not matter at this point.

I would be here for the harvest regardless of your candidate of choice, bucko.

I am an artist. The world is my canvas and spicy mems are my paint.

May 17, 2016 - 16:25

Jack Miller

That's not what he proposed even though the media span it like that. What he was trying to say is that in blow out states the delegates should go to the winner and in tie states it would be a matter of personal volition and some will of the people stuff too. Not winner take all, proportional. Back to RESS.

May 17, 2016 - 16:26

Jason Nguyen

REEEE FUCKING JEFFERSON COUNTY!

May 17, 2016 - 16:27

Adam Rivera

...

May 17, 2016 - 16:27

Ayden Hernandez

...

May 17, 2016 - 16:28

Grayson Long

low tier bants tbh

May 17, 2016 - 16:28

Jackson Johnson

That's fucking embarassing

May 17, 2016 - 16:29

Jason Ramirez

That meme belongs to the Holla Forumsetariat, lad

May 17, 2016 - 16:29

William Bailey

This is how they think we talk, lmao.

May 17, 2016 - 16:29

Hunter Torres

Jesus Christ it is easier to derail topics here than on Holla Forums.

What the fuck

May 17, 2016 - 16:30

Aiden Ross

Dude

epic

win

my

broski

May 17, 2016 - 16:32

Luke Sanders

...

May 17, 2016 - 16:32

James Thompson

We're just making fun of you, it's not derailed. We're still keeping track of the primary, bud.

May 17, 2016 - 16:33

Lincoln Brooks

This. I have The Guardian open. This thread is mainly for bants. Nothing was derailed.

May 17, 2016 - 16:34

Zachary Thomas

...

May 17, 2016 - 16:35

Isaiah Martin

Notice Eastern KY. Same type of demo as WV - Miners, blue collar workers. They get it.

May 17, 2016 - 16:36

Samuel Cruz

I think you mean sexists and bigots you fucking brocialist

May 17, 2016 - 16:39

Eli Allen

Is there any way to disable the little pixel candidates on the Guardians map? The textboxes keep popping up constantly and it's annoying.

May 17, 2016 - 16:41

Logan Baker

...

May 17, 2016 - 16:42

Liam Roberts

Yeah, you know, those young white male millennials.. Who work in the mines.

May 17, 2016 - 16:42

Hudson Turner

I was never dishonest about my intentions. I straight up said I am here to gather asshurt

The premise of my smug shitposts is the fact that Sanders is not going to get the Democratic nomination.

After that its just laughing the delusional idea that Sanders has a chance tbqh

May 17, 2016 - 16:52

Aaron Rodriguez

Okay, reddit!

May 17, 2016 - 16:54

Levi Mitchell

You don't say?

Yeah, we know. The point is simply to stay in the race as long as possible to spread the ideas.

We've known since New York that he wasn't actually going to make it. Trump is most likely going to be the candidate.

May 17, 2016 - 16:56

Lucas Moore

Someone make it stop, lmao

May 17, 2016 - 16:56

Carter Gray

You might want to reformat the way you post, reddit

May 17, 2016 - 16:57

Grayson Ross

s-s-s-samefag

May 17, 2016 - 16:58

Bentley Taylor

President, I mean.

Nice quads.
We don't need Bernie to be president though. We need a Bernie-esque congress. Change will be made on the local level.

May 17, 2016 - 16:59

Colton Richardson

It's getting close, but we're still ahead.

May 17, 2016 - 17:00

Brody Evans

Will Hillary win Salem, Witch-City? :)

May 17, 2016 - 17:00

Jaxon Clark

...

May 17, 2016 - 17:01

John Watson

Check this out.. All of Eastern KY goes to Sanders, then this one county pops up all of a sudden at 100% reported, going heavily/almost all to Clinton. Seems strange to me..

May 17, 2016 - 17:03

Lincoln Reyes

Not trolling. Im just rubbing in your face the absolute fact that Sanders is not going to get the nomination. It's funny that people believe he has a chance.

Go throw another 2 grand in cash at him, see if that helps lol

May 17, 2016 - 17:04

Zachary Gutierrez

Okey-dokey, reddit friend!

May 17, 2016 - 17:05

Ayden Miller

What is it you don't understand about the fact that it's not that important whether or not he wins - as long as he has a platform to spread his ideas, we have all we could ever ask for.

2k would indeed allow him to expand his platform and spread the message further, so that too would not be a waste.

May 17, 2016 - 17:06

Ian Adams

This is painful to watch, guys. We don't take their bait, so they debate themselves. :^)

May 17, 2016 - 17:08

Noah Gonzalez

Their self* lmao

May 17, 2016 - 17:09

Owen Allen

...

May 17, 2016 - 17:10

Noah Sullivan

good sassie

May 17, 2016 - 17:10

Michael Russell

...

May 17, 2016 - 17:11

Benjamin Gray

Why don't you just get behind Clinton, Berniebros? We know she's the only one who can beat Drumpf.

May 17, 2016 - 17:11

Christian Mitchell

Oh look! The redditor learned how to greentext! I'm proud of you, son!

May 17, 2016 - 17:11

Josiah Edwards

...

May 17, 2016 - 17:11

Ayden Sanchez

OK

That's a new one, I'll give you that.

May 17, 2016 - 17:12

Nolan Martinez

Lmao, 100% is not 100%, I guess. That was weird.

May 17, 2016 - 17:12

Carter Stewart

Uh huh

May 17, 2016 - 17:12

Aaron Martinez

reddit learned how to shop.. or you went for reinforcements because you were getting demolished. :^)

May 17, 2016 - 17:14

Owen Cook

i know this is b8 but that cartoon pisses me off to no end

May 17, 2016 - 17:15

Kayden Nelson

How does it feel knowing that once Bernie loses nothing changes?

May 17, 2016 - 17:15

Joshua Ward

...

May 17, 2016 - 17:15

Grayson Jenkins

It's probably just inspectelement

May 17, 2016 - 17:15

Isaac James

Please dont do it bernouts. Please put the knife down! Youve got so much to live for!

HAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

May 17, 2016 - 17:16

Luke Brooks

So mad :^)

May 17, 2016 - 17:16

Ian Nelson

...

May 17, 2016 - 17:17

Grayson Clark

...

May 17, 2016 - 17:17

Ian Phillips

HAHAHAHAHAHA

PFFFT. HAHAHAHAHAH

BERNOUTS GONNA BERN

May 17, 2016 - 17:18

Angel Edwards

lol

May 17, 2016 - 17:18

Kevin Collins

I aint trolling shit. You faggots never had a chance. I love watching you moronss fail at life. I hear canadas accepting asylum applications

May 17, 2016 - 17:19

Luke James

Forgot how to post, did you?
And take it down a notch, brother. The only one salty or over excited is you.

May 17, 2016 - 17:19

Andrew Flores

FEELING THE BERN YET, BERNOUTS XDXDXD?

May 17, 2016 - 17:19

Gabriel Long

I'm getting second-hand embarrassment from your shit memes

May 17, 2016 - 17:21

Angel Davis

tbh the establishment is pretty cool just for the disenfranchisement of Bernie voters

May 17, 2016 - 17:21

Camden Rogers

You are a loser. You dont get to decide anything.

Bernie is a flop.

May 17, 2016 - 17:22

Brayden Hughes

This is getting weird, guys.

May 17, 2016 - 17:23

Landon Garcia

Neither do you, chump.

May 17, 2016 - 17:23

Henry Nguyen

What's going on that the votes are so evenly split geographically?

May 17, 2016 - 17:23

Lincoln Lewis

That's Louiseville, KY and its metro, so you can add to your list of shit-tier cities to never visit. Jefferson County was expanded to include Louiseville and its metro somewhat recently.

May 17, 2016 - 17:23

Joshua Baker

The media should be nationalised at this point to be honest.

May 17, 2016 - 17:24

Liam Mitchell

Coal in the east, says my Kentuckian friend. It borders WV, so there's an overlap in culture and economy.

May 17, 2016 - 17:25

Blake Hernandez

[+10c]

May 17, 2016 - 17:25

Ryan Bennett

If anyone missed this link earlier, it's the live update I'm posting
theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2016/may/17/primary-results-kentucky-oregon-election-2016

If Sanders wins KY, Oregon is a definite win. Even with it being this close in KY, we can assume it's a win there as well.

May 17, 2016 - 17:25

Julian Lewis

...

May 17, 2016 - 17:25

Jaxson Reed

Coal country votes.

May 17, 2016 - 17:25

Jacob Lee

Did someone from /r/enoughsandersspam/ find us?

May 17, 2016 - 17:26

Daniel Ward

What are you going to do with all of your shit Sanders memes once he drops out and everyone forgets his name?

May 17, 2016 - 17:26

Connor Campbell

lasvegasnow.com/news/police-probe-possible-shooting-at-sanders-office

Is this who I think it is? Am I being paranoid for suspecting "her."

May 17, 2016 - 17:26

Cooper Adams

...

May 17, 2016 - 17:26

Jack Miller

Why are all these people so happy?
Do they enjoy the horrible neoliberal future America?
Is there something wrong with them?

Should we psychoanalise them one by one, or send them to the madhouse en mass?

May 17, 2016 - 17:26

Lincoln Carter

It's their level of memeage for sure.

May 17, 2016 - 17:27

John Richardson

its Holla Forums tbh

May 17, 2016 - 17:27

Brody Perry

actually, as a trump supporter i want bernie to win just so he can troll shillary till the convention.
The shillary can knock him out, dont care

May 17, 2016 - 17:27

Christian Young

Thanks for the hot opinion

May 17, 2016 - 17:28

Oliver Martinez

...

May 17, 2016 - 17:28

Leo Murphy

BERNIEBROS BTFO

May 17, 2016 - 17:28

Dominic Lewis

Nah, at least Holla Forums can do bants. This is a painful level of memery we're talking about here.

May 17, 2016 - 17:29

Easton Brown

Hola, reddit

May 17, 2016 - 17:29

Owen Cox

You cant be too surprised that a cyclical thread is a target of shitposting.

Its the lowest hanging fruit around, after all. Its just permanently up and right there on the front page.

May 17, 2016 - 17:32

Nathaniel Gutierrez

...

May 17, 2016 - 17:32

Jackson Price

Right? If it actually is Holla Forumsacks I'd actually be upset that their shitposting has fallen this far in quality.

May 17, 2016 - 17:32

Gavin Martinez

the irony is palpable

May 17, 2016 - 17:33

Owen Green

based LBJ

May 17, 2016 - 17:34

Andrew Green

Folk wisdom you woman hater. Old lady ovaries are the greatest source of wisdom. :^)

May 17, 2016 - 17:34

Austin Hughes

A good portion of /r/ess/ is lower-level Holla Forumslacks though

May 17, 2016 - 17:34

Easton Gonzalez

This is embarrassing though

I'm dying over here

May 17, 2016 - 17:35

Parker Thomas

I believe you mean

May 17, 2016 - 17:35

Hunter Lopez

evoteamerica.org/
Interesting idea.

May 17, 2016 - 17:37

Lucas Kelly

Someone post the Trump compilation

May 17, 2016 - 17:38

Samuel Gray

Arghghg, it's so condescending for her to think if she talks like that we'll think she's one of us. Just like when she tries to sport that fake southern accent when she's campaigning in the south. It works against her, in my book.
t. southerner

May 17, 2016 - 17:38

Xavier Thomas

:^)

May 17, 2016 - 17:39

Nathan Robinson

Don't be nasty to your abuela

May 17, 2016 - 17:39

Samuel Myers

...

May 17, 2016 - 17:39

Dominic Hernandez

funny, Bernie was winning in KY until all the votes from urban areas and western KY (where all the negores live) started coming in

soshal konztructz iz a muthafucka

May 17, 2016 - 17:40

Carson Reyes

Holla Forums BTFO!!!! Holla Forums BTFO!!!! Holla Forums BTFO!!!! Holla Forums BTFO!!!! Holla Forums BTFO!!!! Holla Forums BTFO!!!! Holla Forums BTFO!!!! Holla Forums BTFO!!!! Holla Forums BTFO!!!! Holla Forums BTFO!!!! Holla Forums BTFO!!!! Holla Forums BTFO!!!! Holla Forums BTFO!!!! Holla Forums BTFO!!!!

May 17, 2016 - 17:40

Jack Jenkins

She's technically southern.

May 17, 2016 - 17:40

Elijah Gomez

Sure thing, kid.

May 17, 2016 - 17:40

Jeremiah Fisher

Sounds like they're just better at minority outreach.

May 17, 2016 - 17:41

Evan Martin

Basta!

May 17, 2016 - 17:42

Brandon Foster

LEFTYPOL ON SUICIDE WATCH

May 17, 2016 - 17:42

Eli Young

...

May 17, 2016 - 17:42

Brody Edwards

definitely reddit.

May 17, 2016 - 17:43

Joshua Nelson

...

May 17, 2016 - 17:44

Carter Williams

You happen to be speaking to a native Western Kentuckian. We didn't even have any black people in my city until the 90s. It's still heavily white.

May 17, 2016 - 17:44

William Hall

The whole affair becomes somewhat solemn once you realize this board's population is 95% bored Holla Forumsacks pretending to be Commieshits shitting on other bored Holla Forumsacks pretending to be Commieshits.

May 17, 2016 - 17:45

Hunter Martinez

KY is whiter than OR, look it up.

OR is like 12% spic.

May 17, 2016 - 17:45

Lucas Evans

time.com/4337518/hillary-clinton-emails-judicial-watch-civil-lawsuit/

So this is why they're so worked up tonight

May 17, 2016 - 17:46

Lincoln Sullivan

And?

May 17, 2016 - 17:46

Cooper Cook

Holla Forums here. Bernie vs. Trump would have been a battle for the ages. It's a shame. There's no honor in kicking over the rotten tree that is Hillary. Is there still a small chance of a contested convention? Bernie has a much better chance against Trump. If the DNC is smart, they will dump Hillary while they can. They may not like Bernie, but they hate Trump even more. But I don't think they're smart enough to realize this. Like the RNC, they will cling to the establishment ship until it sinks.

May 17, 2016 - 17:48

Luke Martin

Sounds like the beginnings of a utopia to me! The first step to achieving true equality is importing a hostile underclass! We will really stick it to Porky by providing him with an endless supply of slave-labor!

Viva la Raza!

May 17, 2016 - 17:49

Thomas Young

Aww shit, Hillary's lead keeps falling - from 1.6% up to just 0.3% now

May 17, 2016 - 17:49

Charles Hughes

I'm hoping DNC isn't smart enough to give him the nomination as I do think he'd beat Trump.

May 17, 2016 - 17:50

Jeremiah Wood

Its not over. Trust me, we will fuck shit up.

May 17, 2016 - 17:50

Jacob Taylor

...

May 17, 2016 - 17:51

Liam Miller

I don't think that's true. Trump is safer for the establishment than Bernie.

May 17, 2016 - 17:51

Caleb Jackson

It's pretty much a given.

May 17, 2016 - 17:51

Ian Murphy

Just throwing that little factoid out there.

May 17, 2016 - 17:51

Nathaniel Rodriguez

Two close Clinton aides, Huma Abedin and Cheryl Mills, will testify under oath this month and next Judicial Watch announced today. The judge in the case said earlier this month he may force Clinton herself to testify after the first round of interviews is completed. That has set up the prospect of the Democratic front-runner for the White House facing off under oath against one of her most dogged pursuers as early as July, just months before the November election.

May 17, 2016 - 17:52

Hunter Hall

Superdelegates

May 17, 2016 - 17:52

Ryan Wilson

This.
Trump has a pretty good chance against Hillary, MSM just won't admit it.
Tbh, I'm not really convinced Trump us going to be worse than Clinton though, especially as he doesn't seem very interventionist.

May 17, 2016 - 17:52

Isaac Perez

So what are the chances we see another coin flip in Kentucky?

May 17, 2016 - 17:52

Ian Jenkins

Independent Voters

May 17, 2016 - 17:53

Jason Hernandez

IIRC that's still not enough to stop a contested convention. Actually, I don't think they technically vote until the convention.

May 17, 2016 - 17:53

Juan Clark

Damn! She can get Strauss-Kahn'd over this!

May 17, 2016 - 17:53

Christian Hall

predictit.org/Browse/Trending

Reminder you can make some money off of this via the political predictions market

May 17, 2016 - 17:54

Lincoln Long

The thought of you, Shiloh, and Sunshine smoking weed in your VW van outside of the Democratic Convention will make the 1%-er RethugliKKKlan shills that run the Democratic Party shake in their boots.

May 17, 2016 - 17:55

Nolan Walker

saved

May 17, 2016 - 17:55

Brayden Morris

Bernie in the lead again!

May 17, 2016 - 17:56

Justin Reyes

...

May 17, 2016 - 17:56

Sebastian Murphy

Still a lot of precincts left in Jefferson county where she has the lead, so I expect she will pull above him in the end.

May 17, 2016 - 17:56

Brody Barnes

We're still ahead, guys.

May 17, 2016 - 17:57

Eli Hill

Will you faggot nigger jews stop repeating this shitty meme? That's not true at all.

I think at this point it'll stay that way. Really, the important thing is that we win even if it's by one vote. Momentum and all that shit, we need to be able to say at the convention that Hillary hasn't won a state since the midpoint.

I don't know about that. That's only about half of the precincts left.

May 17, 2016 - 17:57

Landon Sanders

Honestly, all urban centers ought be nuked

May 17, 2016 - 17:58

Ian Sanchez

Urban centers are disproportionately non-white; are you a fucking RethugliKKKlan, bro?

May 17, 2016 - 17:59

Mason Campbell

Bro, no one talks like that

May 17, 2016 - 18:00

Jace Thompson

you'll be surprised

May 17, 2016 - 18:00

Elijah Perry

Not the bro part, but the "RethugliKKKan" I've never seen. Maybe on reddit they do, though.

May 17, 2016 - 18:02

Michael Clark

I think that may have actually been a joke.

May 17, 2016 - 18:02

Gavin Parker

I'm a short distance away from Philly and can be in the area for the convention.

Are we going to make a separate thread on prep for that or what?

May 17, 2016 - 18:03

Nathan Thomas

...

May 17, 2016 - 18:03

Leo Powell

What are you gonna do? Bomb Hillary?

May 17, 2016 - 18:04

Isaac Nguyen

Might be a good idea. Take pics and document the thing. Don't let them get away with anything.

May 17, 2016 - 18:04

Benjamin Jones

Here is how you prepare:

1. Buy some weed

2. Buy some LSD and/or Shrooms

3. Jam-out to some Phish

May 17, 2016 - 18:05

Gavin Cooper

SOON.

May 17, 2016 - 18:05

Brayden Cruz

...

May 17, 2016 - 18:05

Lincoln Walker

They'll get away with it anyway.
They're getting away with it now and plenty of people have film of NV.
They only solution is imminent revolution.

May 17, 2016 - 18:05

Asher Williams

I kind of hate this meme of Reddit being all one place. Like the vast majority of Reddit is shit, sure. But it is shit in completely different and fascinating ways. You'll see the RethugliKKKan thing on SRS type places, mostly. But I was actually referring to Twitter and Facebook and comment sections, et al.

I'm going to be in an advanced summer school when that happens so I can't go. :^(

May 17, 2016 - 18:05

Michael Hernandez

Just put my ballot in the mail for California. Steve Stokes for Senate!

May 17, 2016 - 18:05

Joshua Rodriguez

gay post

Funnily enough Bernie loves that band. Is that why you mentioned it?

May 17, 2016 - 18:06

Jaxon Cox

While I see Bernie as a lesser evil than Clinton you're aware that without including superdelegates Clinton will still be in the lead, right?

May 17, 2016 - 18:06

Oliver Taylor

That sounds like reddit talk to me

May 17, 2016 - 18:06

Jaxson Sanchez

How far away? Lehigh Valley here

May 17, 2016 - 18:06

Carter Phillips

Nobody cares

May 17, 2016 - 18:07

Nicholas Martin

SRS is Reddit you normie cuck.

May 17, 2016 - 18:07

Charles Cooper

Stop posting

May 17, 2016 - 18:07

Jeremiah Cruz

You might have missed the thread an hour ago when we were initially bombarded by obvious outsiders. It's a reference to that. They're still in the thread, they either left the thread, or calmed down a bit. But they were sperging out pretty heavily.

May 17, 2016 - 18:08

Juan Jones

Its just funny to watch you all hoping that the superdelegates go your way and the person with fewer votes wins. Just because he's the one you like.

May 17, 2016 - 18:08

Grayson Jenkins

If by that you mean she has far better name-recognition than Bernie, is the establishment candidate with their full backing, and that many black establishment candidates voiced their support for her which is apparently a big deal for the black community, as well as their subtle race-baiting about Obama and his "legacy" then yes I suppose they do :^)

The fuck you even talking about m80

May 17, 2016 - 18:09

Jackson Reed

...

May 17, 2016 - 18:09

Juan Bennett

Quite aware.
That doesn't mean she ought get away with anything. Now she is what liberals always have been; an enemy if the socialist cause.
And I want vengeance, even if it helps Trump.

May 17, 2016 - 18:09

Jose Miller

No one is expecting that. In fact, a lot of us hope it doesn't happen.
Don't let that get in the way of your reddit-tier posts though.

May 17, 2016 - 18:10

William Hughes

...

May 17, 2016 - 18:10

Jack Bell

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No, I've been here, I was just pointing a small nit out.

Wewie dewie Oregon and California turnout is record setting, it is definitely a possibility that he pulls ahead. Clinton's campaign is tanking and she is letting it tank. Superdelegates, if they have a smart bone in their body, will quit.

May 17, 2016 - 18:11

Easton Wright

With less than 5% left to report in Kentucky it looks like Bernie has won by less than 1%, much to the chagrin of r/enoughsandersspam/.

May 17, 2016 - 18:13

Hudson Adams

Not really. Particularly when you consider that she's going to win California.

May 17, 2016 - 18:13

Brayden Murphy

Harlan County picked which side they're on :)

May 17, 2016 - 18:13

Brayden Campbell

Reminder that having a trip makes you idpol

May 17, 2016 - 18:13

Robert Green

How many times a day do you masturbate to your "Queen"?

May 17, 2016 - 18:15

Lincoln Baker

What the fuck are you talking about, homonegro? They still have 20 days to decide and voter registration set records.

May 17, 2016 - 18:16

Dylan Miller

Yep.
Yep.
Yep.
Yep.
Yes, that's exactly what the above equates to.

May 17, 2016 - 18:16

Austin Ross

Please, let's keep the personal insults to a minimum. I'm in California and I just voted Sanders. :^)

May 17, 2016 - 18:17

Bentley Garcia

ahahaahahahahahahahaaaaaaaa

May 17, 2016 - 18:17

Jayden Lewis

It really works in our favor that Cali is late in the game. More people get to know Sanders. I think that's what helped WV & KY, too.

May 17, 2016 - 18:18

Brandon Robinson

Raylan Givens is a Bernie supporter.

May 17, 2016 - 18:19

Ethan Flores

surprised Massachusetts didnt go to Sand tbh

May 17, 2016 - 18:19

Tyler Richardson

...

May 17, 2016 - 18:19

John Flores

So as you guys can see the county the biggest city is in finished turning in its data and she's .6% ahead at 98.8% supporting, which sounds bad but we might still pull through.

May 17, 2016 - 18:19

Joseph Ortiz

Welp

May 17, 2016 - 18:19

Nolan Myers

Also more likely than not whoever wins won't even make a delegate difference and the media will say it was a tie.

May 17, 2016 - 18:20

Justin Barnes

No thugs there :)

May 17, 2016 - 18:20

Chase Morgan

If someone were to kill that evil bitch I'd throw a party, I'm just being realistic here. She's ahead there because California liberals are limousine liberals.

May 17, 2016 - 18:20

Jace Barnes

But she's not ahead there.

May 17, 2016 - 18:20

Kevin Peterson

Only if Bernie ends up winning.

May 17, 2016 - 18:21

Luis Gomez

What are all the states that have been super close loses for Sanders?

MA
MO
NV
IA

Any others?

May 17, 2016 - 18:21

Eli Wood

Louisvillefag here. Sorry guys.

May 17, 2016 - 18:21

Ryder Murphy

This has nothing to do with minority outreach

May 17, 2016 - 18:21

Parker Anderson

She's ahead in every single poll I've seen from there.

May 17, 2016 - 18:21

Gabriel Brown

MSNBC just had her pull ahead by 2000 votes somehow

May 17, 2016 - 18:21

Julian Williams

KY

May 17, 2016 - 18:21

William Price

Big city finished turning in results.

May 17, 2016 - 18:21

Mason Powell

I actually thought there is no way they will impede Clinton during the presidential race, but the illogical tantrum her supporters are throwing lately means something serious is happening behind the scenes.

May 17, 2016 - 18:21

Aiden Moore

smh cucked again

May 17, 2016 - 18:22

Kayden Price

Lexingtonfag here, I'm disappointed in my county as well. But my home county is Hopkins & I'm proud of them.

May 17, 2016 - 18:22

Dylan Gray

If they report a delegate tie in a scenario where it's effectively mathematically impossible to "really" tie then they can go suck an egg.

Polls from a while ago that we always beat. Watch.

May 17, 2016 - 18:22

Juan Ross

rip

May 17, 2016 - 18:23

Gabriel Reyes

Welp, it's basically ogre niggers. Hill won by a nose, but to no effect on delegates I'm pretty sure.

May 17, 2016 - 18:23

Austin White

Even if you're right he's not going to be winning remaining contests with getting 60+% of the vote like he'd need to unless the email situation blows up big.

May 17, 2016 - 18:23

Ian Nelson

Dontcha mean 'when'? Shit is happening and getting lit af rn tbh fam with the civil case, no FBI needed.

Besides, Oregon votes today and Bernie will definitely make more than that.

May 17, 2016 - 18:25

Jordan Davis

It makes me wonder if BernieOrBust is taking a toll on them.

May 17, 2016 - 18:25

Noah Lee

Warren & Barren county still not fully reported. Sanders is leading in one, and it's close in the other. Not over, yet!

May 17, 2016 - 18:25

Samuel Sullivan

Holy shit, what world do you live in? Because I want to go there

May 17, 2016 - 18:26

Alexander Watson

Barren just called for Bernie

May 17, 2016 - 18:26

Kevin Reed

well including Kentucky with Oregon he'd need 70% from Oregon.

May 17, 2016 - 18:26

Logan Carter

can he get more than 2000 out of it?

May 17, 2016 - 18:27

Adrian Sanders

Berning with despair.

May 17, 2016 - 18:27

James Butler

LMAO

May 17, 2016 - 18:27

Brayden Parker

Not sure, but he's winning in Warren county as well. I'm searching for other counties which haven't been called, too. It's still 46% to 46% right now.

May 17, 2016 - 18:28

Jacob Clark

>>>Holla Forums

May 17, 2016 - 18:29

Brandon Brown

I see reddit is still here

May 17, 2016 - 18:29

Anthony Reyes

Rolled 636, 61, 677, 898, 964, 102, 729, 921, 1024, 425, 578, 697, 451, 354, 960, 631, 165, 746, 349, 986, 752, 369, 166, 62, 371, 361, 743, 304, 192, 213, 298, 828, 274, 975, 701, 214, 52, 406, 111, 52, 830, 688, 748, 257, 18, 683, 887, 183, 405, 211, 145, 132, 580, 310, 194, 950, 670, 936, 230, 862, 125, 528, 665, 398, 478, 341, 612, 530, 746, 722, 582, 551, 386, 305, 808, 403, 988, 670, 585, 369, 880, 729, 501, 436, 15, 694, 362, 685, 606, 591, 522, 731, 95, 162, 105, 573, 502, 716, 78, 223, 413, 660, 774, 798, 965, 557, 177, 928, 203, 761, 273, 59, 466, 773, 494, 481, 443, 855, 141, 25, 422, 662, 755, 516, 824, 859, 65, 301, 550, 143, 524, 963, 802, 274, 736, 742, 830, 912, 646, 9, 649, 918, 67, 91, 667, 560, 572, 86, 391, 712, 110, 812, 350, 864, 304, 149, 699, 368, 450, 225, 510, 973, 163, 288, 222, 899, 5, 28, 787, 650, 36, 412, 544, 102, 503, 186, 662, 50, 272, 28, 762, 381, 840, 87, 221, 120, 236, 920, 488, 685, 120, 998, 634, 282, 261, 855, 157, 266, 883, 943 = 97999 (200d1024)TRUMP V CLINTON CONFIRMED

May 17, 2016 - 18:29

Isaiah Thomas

Shid & fug, the gap widened to 1%, which would give Hill a delegate.

Definitely possible.

May 17, 2016 - 18:29

Ayden Harris

It's Nevada. That was a preview of what's going to happen in Philly and now they're scared.

May 17, 2016 - 18:30

Joseph James

the gap widened because pike (where sanders had a large lead) un-reported all of its results for some reason

i assume irish shenanigans

May 17, 2016 - 18:30

Charles Bell

By 1% point(and it's still not over)? Hardly.

May 17, 2016 - 18:31

Wyatt Reed

This is a Clinton we are talking about, retard.

May 17, 2016 - 18:31

Asher Johnson

Are the libtards going to get BTFO like last time?

May 17, 2016 - 18:32

Jace Howard

Well, that'll be the decision maker. Almost all of the remaining are there.

May 17, 2016 - 18:33

Lincoln Garcia

FBI can't even indict, they can only recommend to indict. Anyone thinking the justice department under Lynch would indict is a summer child.

May 17, 2016 - 18:33

Bentley Scott

Rolled 341, 380, 594, 967, 764, 726, 845, 305, 703, 265, 725, 923, 906, 459, 869, 739, 274, 394, 738, 460, 36, 834, 659, 916, 832, 398, 596, 55, 18, 929, 283, 359, 284, 877, 302, 23, 578, 122, 328, 256, 387, 29, 155, 268, 487, 1024, 1007, 761, 394, 721, 196, 429, 530, 855, 320, 338, 229, 915, 393, 246, 819, 675, 605, 79, 527, 906, 101, 81, 4, 429, 337, 390, 457, 491, 658, 944, 491, 641, 680, 884, 337, 875, 288, 867, 706, 607, 181, 934, 498, 573, 156, 292, 224, 760, 371, 751, 642, 472, 831, 645, 900, 144, 11, 333, 634, 669, 252, 101, 285, 931, 984, 622, 782, 248, 464, 463, 854, 645, 372, 328, 194, 528, 620, 417, 263, 990, 144, 905, 437, 975, 526, 312, 94, 536, 644, 728, 181, 895, 828, 465, 801, 788, 63, 559, 11, 527, 1021, 865, 147, 369, 168, 340, 896, 787, 757, 135, 752, 900, 15, 164, 851, 540, 476, 944, 52, 95, 648, 233, 990, 451, 697, 767, 214, 760, 301, 225, 262, 297, 65, 408, 666, 232, 748, 537, 1018, 480, 672, 745, 356, 687, 909, 182, 203, 360, 102, 254, 455, 749, 486, 420 = 102261 (200d1024)

BERNBOTS STILL HAVE HOPE

May 17, 2016 - 18:33

Angel James

I hope so. If it comes down to Trump vs Clinton I am looking forward to the Clinton supporter tears.

May 17, 2016 - 18:33

Anthony Hall

for shame

May 17, 2016 - 18:34

Jeremiah Ramirez

DONT MIND IF I DO

May 17, 2016 - 18:34

John Torres

What happened in Nevada?
What will happen in Philly?

May 17, 2016 - 18:34

Ayden Flores

Yeah, Bernie has been using kid gloves with her.
Trump is going to eviscerate her, or they're both going to look so bad by the end of it, no one will want to vote.

May 17, 2016 - 18:35

James Peterson

No, Clinton will win because Trump is even more toxic based on favorability ratings. Sanders beating Trump in November would have been so much sweeter, but at least Hillary Clinton will give us sweet sweet Holla Forums tears when Trump goes down in flames.

probably not voting in november regardless

May 17, 2016 - 18:35

Easton Morales

Bernie fucked up when he said "enough about the damn emails" or whatever.

Whiteknighted hard.

May 17, 2016 - 18:36

Nathaniel Jones

Dubs confirm.

May 17, 2016 - 18:36

Gabriel Carter

Here's the thing though, he might actually beat Clinton.

May 17, 2016 - 18:36

Nathaniel Bennett

Stupid reactionary.

May 17, 2016 - 18:37

Josiah Peterson

He's already pivoting to the left, out flanking her on a lot of issues.

He's going to win.

Luckily he won't be as bad as Holla Forums thinks he would be.

May 17, 2016 - 18:37

Dominic Green

...

May 17, 2016 - 18:37

Jason Powell

Correct.

May 17, 2016 - 18:38

Bentley Reed

He said that because his campaign has always been issue-oriented. If he went after Clinton on accusatory grounds and not just hard facts he'd be eviscerated and the establishment would never forgive him even harder than they're doing now.

May 17, 2016 - 18:38

Oliver Green

WE'VE GOT PIKE COUNTY
54.3% BERNIE
GAP BACK TO .4%, OR NO DELEGATE DIFFERENCE. 99.7% REPORTING
WE DID IT BROS (sort of. i mean as long as we can claim she hasn't won a state since the midway point we did it bros)

May 17, 2016 - 18:39

Juan Barnes

Any lewds?

May 17, 2016 - 18:39

Ian Russell

Hi Rick, nice to see you are still LARPing as a radical leftist. Your anime spam gave you away, fyi.

May 17, 2016 - 18:39

Easton Peterson

Nobody actually thinks Trump is Hitler 2, dummy.

Same thing as your comrade bernie sanders memes.

May 17, 2016 - 18:39

Jackson Ross

We're coming back up again..

May 17, 2016 - 18:39

Ayden Price

...

May 17, 2016 - 18:40

Cooper Miller

Don't get your hopes too high, there's not enough votes to put him back over. But hey, we tied!

May 17, 2016 - 18:41

Camden Sullivan

This. Bernie has run a smart campaign. He's getting tougher now, and still remains issue oriented.

May 17, 2016 - 18:41

Logan Robinson

No there's some real dumb fucks that have actually convinced themselves that Trump is secretly a white nationalist. Its both sad and laughable.

May 17, 2016 - 18:41

Michael Thompson

wouldn't you want to know

uhh i'm a regular here

obviously trump *can* win, but i think hillary clinton is strongly favored

May 17, 2016 - 18:41

Blake Flores

Sure. I'm happy if it stays within 1%

May 17, 2016 - 18:42

Gabriel Rodriguez

She continues to go down in the polls, as well. Both Trump & Clinton.

May 17, 2016 - 18:42

Leo Lopez

No I know, but he's already pivoting on a lot of the stuff he already promised.
He's not going to do massive tax-reliefs or ban Muslims. He's done with the "self-funding" thing. I'm pretty sure the wall is gone once we hit the general too.

May 17, 2016 - 18:43

Mason Johnson

And your wifu remains the worst grill ever.

May 17, 2016 - 18:44

Camden Clark

See, this is why Sanders would be the better nomination. If they don't pick him, Hillary will be spending the entire general election trying to claim his huge independent constituency and his young voters, prizes Trump is already targeting.

May 17, 2016 - 18:44

Sebastian Hall

Ok, it's looking like it will be within 1%(how ironic, lmao) in KY.

Oregon is next & will be much better. I'm honestly surprised he did this well in KY(& I'm from there), given how red we usually are. I'm very proud of my state in this show for Bernie.

May 17, 2016 - 18:44

Isaiah Myers

If you'd been paying attention to his actual speeches instead of the media soundbites you'd realize those aren't pivots. He said since the beginning that he only was self-funding for the primary and that the muslim ban would be temporary until a way could be figured out to vet them.

May 17, 2016 - 18:44

Daniel Rogers

That's because you're wrong you woman hater. The Republicans will run the biggest smear campaign in history in a desperate bid for the white house because they know their candidate is shit. There are two universals- Clinton's favorability is down and Trump's is up. Most of her narrow victories in polling are already within the margin of error. Draw your own conclusions.

To be fair he only mentioned banning Muslims once or twice and he never made it a campaign promise. Wall meme is what he opened his campaign with. Maybe it'll go too but people will be pissed, even people who didn't want it.

May 17, 2016 - 18:45

Lucas Wood

...

May 17, 2016 - 18:45

Carson Mitchell

I'm expecting Hillary to just give VP to someone like Warren to placate most of the Bernie voters.

May 17, 2016 - 18:45

Dominic Gutierrez

Come over to the dark side anons…….Holla Forums would love to redpill you sometime. You know you want to come make fun of niggers, kikes, lbgtbbqxyz fags, and Shillary with us :^)

May 17, 2016 - 18:46

Austin Smith

...

May 17, 2016 - 18:47

Hudson Robinson

Warren has already said like a gazillion times she's not interested. Damn shame tho.
I-I wouldn't be too mad about a Clinton VP since VPs don't do shit except tiebreak (lel) anyway.

May 17, 2016 - 18:47

Jack Gonzalez

...

May 17, 2016 - 18:47

Jason Price

I still didn't forgive her for not endorsing Bernie

May 17, 2016 - 18:47

Andrew Morgan

Yeah brudder, you are right.

It is just a coincidence that Hilary wins primaries in states that have a significant black population, whilst Bernie wins states that are lily-white by large margins.

May 17, 2016 - 18:48

Gabriel Flores

Buddy, if he's not self-funding for the general too, then he loses the anti-establishment vote, his one true ace.
No matter what he promised on this, he's fucked if he does it. He had certainly pivoted on both minimum wage and taxes.

May 17, 2016 - 18:48

Sebastian Bailey

We're adults, user.

May 17, 2016 - 18:48

Jace Lopez

we've had bad luck in the tightest races–massachusetts, illinois, missouri, and iowa were all too close to call until almost everything was in and they all went for hillary

he's alienated too many groups, especially suburban white women and hispanics, and the democrats will be just as fucking vicious against him, not only on his past statements but his business record and scandals (mafia connections, trump university, etc.) and try to paint him as unqualified and unpredictable as commander in chief

kys faggot

May 17, 2016 - 18:49

Brandon Scott

That would just make people angrier tbh.

May 17, 2016 - 18:49

Asher Peterson

Its not clinging when its the truth.

That's before Trump and her started feuding all over twitter for over a week.

May 17, 2016 - 18:49

Liam Clark

When does Oregon start?

May 17, 2016 - 18:50

Justin Davis

Nobody ever expected him to fund a general. That will cost upwards of a billion in cash. If he is worth roughly 10 billion that will be over 10% of his net worth, most of which would be in properties, buildings, hotels and stuff like that.

On the taxes, its like 50/50. Im not going to get my hopes up, but it would be nice if the lower classes got some tax relief.

The most recent Muslim thing was like a tacit "yeah lol it WOULD be great if we could let them in =^]" there are a lot of ways to read into that.

There is no reason to suspect he will go back on the wall since that is a huge part of his overall rhetoric. His campaign would be dead in the water and he knows it.

And the dems cant beat him over the head with the fag marriage like they could with most other opponents, so there goes one of their number 1 tactics.

May 17, 2016 - 18:50

Luke Reyes

Idpol fags don't belong here.

>>>Holla Forums

May 17, 2016 - 18:50

Robert Brown

It's because Black communities are organised like African tribes.

You better do what the chieftain says.

May 17, 2016 - 18:50

Joshua Nelson

This comment may be in jest but it's actually correct.
Multiculturalism will be the death of socialism in the United States.

May 17, 2016 - 18:51

Carson Powell

lmao

May 17, 2016 - 18:51

Luke Adams

People are quick to forgive. You'll be surprised. If he keeps the wall on the down low he'll win back the fundie hispanic vote.

That won't change anything.

May 17, 2016 - 18:51

Chase Gonzalez

Should be another hour till they close the polls in Oregon

May 17, 2016 - 18:51

Carter Collins

Nope. There was an interview where he said people would be paying more in taxes. Interviewer questioned him on what he meant, he clarified that he meant that they'd likely end up paying more than his original proposal but less than they currently are after compromises with Congress. This got spun into saying he was going to raise taxes in comparison to what they are now.

This one actually was a pivot, was happy to see it as well.

May 17, 2016 - 18:51

Charles Bell

If all niggers were exterminated, Sandberg would have a clear path to the White House.

Tempting, isn't it?

May 17, 2016 - 18:52

Joshua Bennett

I'm not the delusional one apparently.

May 17, 2016 - 18:52

Jace Fisher

What will happen at the DNC in Philadelphia this year?

May 17, 2016 - 18:52

Nathaniel Gomez

Trump said he will support riasing taxes on individuals at his wealth level and he also promised earlier in the campaign he will donate his presidential salary to a charity

May 17, 2016 - 18:53

Benjamin Martinez

Also, Tyler basically said Kentucky would happen almost exactly like it did. By his estimates, Oregon should make up our 65% requirement or worst case scenario get really close.

May 17, 2016 - 18:53

Chase Bell

Yeah fine, but if he takes wall-street money and other big business money, then his one chance to win evaporates. The key to his victory lies in not seeming to be bought off. He'd have to go with small donations from energized supporters or he'll have nothing of substance to throw against Clinton, save for non-interventionism

May 17, 2016 - 18:53

Nicholas Brown

Chaos, if the DNC keeps the bullshit up.

May 17, 2016 - 18:54

Daniel Parker

Where?

May 17, 2016 - 18:55

Jacob Campbell

This is what he's doing, or at the very least the spin he's putting on it. He's saying he doesn't want the "large ones".

May 17, 2016 - 18:55

Brayden Russell

He also wins overwhelmingly among Natives
Guess you have to go back, whitey :^)

May 17, 2016 - 18:56

Wyatt Adams

political revolution

May 17, 2016 - 18:56

Anthony Lee

Polls in Oregon close at 8pm. It's 6:56 now. Just about an hour to go.

May 17, 2016 - 18:56

Landon Robinson

sanders also dominates the arab vote (probably what tipped him over the edge in michigan)

May 17, 2016 - 18:57

Jaxson Taylor

They can to an extent. Trump is nowhere near as bad when it comes to rights for LGBTs as most republicans but he's always been against gay marriage. He's just not been campaigning hard against it as most republicans do, its more of a very low key issue for him.

May 17, 2016 - 18:57

Brayden Williams

...

May 17, 2016 - 18:57

Owen Rodriguez

Don't remind me.

May 17, 2016 - 18:57

Ian Parker

Rolled 774, 938, 858, 252, 50, 840, 726, 808, 554, 68, 432, 836, 535, 494, 959, 925, 534, 475, 736, 1006, 809, 778, 244, 605, 238, 219, 813, 107, 907, 122, 300, 657, 35, 133, 908, 85, 973, 609, 893, 503, 677, 300, 314, 188, 794, 249, 88, 304, 724, 824, 285, 508, 577, 528, 88, 815, 746, 900, 921, 629, 1022, 196, 261, 33, 329, 145, 118, 278, 754, 1011, 780, 406, 287, 70, 593, 56, 318, 681, 359, 17, 481, 643, 525, 33, 147, 613, 847, 893, 489, 744, 498, 486, 940, 758, 518, 244, 903, 635, 521, 633, 622, 276, 15, 908, 345, 607, 963, 663, 264, 298, 680, 744, 941, 180, 777, 63, 793, 599, 956, 257, 319, 429, 742, 234, 163, 236, 477, 41, 871, 998, 674, 468, 250, 688, 351, 595, 271, 290, 233, 534, 588, 912, 254, 504, 68, 6, 567, 860, 605, 498, 93, 923, 926, 834, 132, 65, 45, 609, 106, 915, 583, 779, 359, 832, 442, 709, 402, 712, 999, 635, 221, 562, 523, 475, 41, 591, 480, 607, 427, 60, 81, 519, 983, 1007, 328, 90, 47, 373, 699, 152, 264, 258, 930, 622, 65, 347, 307, 467, 35, 282 = 100082 (200d1024)

THE WALL
REMOVE TACO
REMOVE KEBAB
REMOVE BAGEL
STOP TPP

May 17, 2016 - 18:58

Wyatt Cook

Charity? You know that Trump is like the least charitable of the billionaires, right?

May 17, 2016 - 18:58

Eli Young

But I thought the globalist cultural marxist plan was to make whites a minority?
I guess you won't mind leaving soon then?

May 17, 2016 - 18:58

Adam Rogers

...

May 17, 2016 - 18:58

Ethan Phillips

If the DNC tosses Bernie aside maybe we ought to vote Trump instead of Hitlary to spark revenge. That, or just not vote at all. At least we will be able to watch the world burn together.

May 17, 2016 - 18:58

Matthew Morris

Ones you bop, you jus gant stob

May 17, 2016 - 18:59

Christopher Thomas

A presidential salary is chump change to him and would be huge in pr. Small sacrifice really.

May 17, 2016 - 18:59

Jeremiah Edwards

...

May 17, 2016 - 18:59

Bentley Ward

Sounds like weasel words to me
Back over the Atlantic you go, lad

May 17, 2016 - 19:01

John Mitchell

Whether he can actually clinch the nomination or not, the further he pushes the more we win.

May 17, 2016 - 19:01

Isaiah Richardson

You showed him, comrade!

Amerindians developed the institutions that have reigned supreme in the US throughout its history. Hell, the Founding Fathers held the continental congress in a teepee and passed the peace pipe every time they passed a resolution.

May 17, 2016 - 19:01

John Roberts

...

May 17, 2016 - 19:02

Nolan Garcia

...

May 17, 2016 - 19:02

Landon Perez

meant for

fucking cumskin website

May 17, 2016 - 19:02

Landon Brown

Be there for whatever hopefully there will be some groups protesting all the porkies and their influence on our political system there. Especially after all the evidence in this sham of the primary.

Looking at the official website it doesn't say anything about just letting anyone in. Don't really want to volunteer for the DNC if I don't have to.

Camden, NJ.

May 17, 2016 - 19:03

Daniel Parker

...

May 17, 2016 - 19:04

Parker Howard

Rolled 77, 398, 257, 396, 666, 923, 744, 878, 139, 26, 43, 377, 670, 525, 601, 349, 354, 502, 569, 326, 532, 893, 484, 405, 483, 975, 784, 317, 286, 377, 370, 362, 775, 626, 757, 416, 525, 477, 269, 664, 502, 312, 16, 147, 836, 616, 496, 166, 94, 41, 491, 626, 933, 975, 6, 392, 926, 790, 709, 187, 143, 54, 549, 917, 680, 281, 309, 180, 757, 578, 844, 235, 890, 859, 381, 702, 451, 876, 867, 544, 917, 334, 145, 826, 284, 151, 193, 185, 940, 902, 371, 59, 955, 919, 975, 611, 176, 260, 791, 933, 838, 610, 143, 703, 445, 524, 381, 895, 376, 223, 414, 268, 556, 559, 69, 840, 709, 262, 1, 624, 139, 371, 682, 70, 266, 633, 680, 442, 893, 447, 351, 707, 32, 493, 386, 476, 1017, 766, 346, 368, 988, 760, 636, 520, 294, 704, 336, 1002, 966, 336, 602, 80, 707, 260, 149, 973, 893, 829, 390, 761, 251, 740, 443, 282, 209, 829, 758, 202, 570, 80, 569, 533, 839, 180, 29, 108, 884, 364, 86, 825, 699, 687, 905, 381, 946, 29, 329, 814, 858, 719, 551, 84, 435, 994, 366, 644, 798, 100, 845, 343 = 102381 (200d1024)

UNCUCK YOURSELF BEFORE YOU WRECK YOURSELF

May 17, 2016 - 19:04

Hudson Morales

my option is not listed/10

May 17, 2016 - 19:05

Aaron Carter

He's been bashing NAFTA for decades.

May 17, 2016 - 19:05

Tyler Williams

Ironic, considering all the kvetching about Glassberg getting btfo by pavement apes going on ITT.

May 17, 2016 - 19:05

Aaron Parker

fuck off, illegitimate poll

May 17, 2016 - 19:05

Leo Parker

he also directly benefits from free trade deals.

May 17, 2016 - 19:06

Brody Martin

You mean, the shitposting perpetrated by you?

May 17, 2016 - 19:06

Ethan Wood

Top kek m8. Top kek.

May 17, 2016 - 19:06

Isaiah Robinson

Well when its at the level of a personal opinion sort of thing and not the huge grand ideological principal like it typically is, it loses a lot of weight.

To even pretend the Dems can hit Trump anywhere even remotely near as hard as they could someone like Cruz is delusional at best and dishonest at worst.

Deferring certain things like fag issues and muh weed to individual states is the best option. It is a legitimate answer for policy and satisfies all but the most fervent zealots.

May 17, 2016 - 19:07

Cooper Walker

TPP is far worse than just a free trade deal and contrary to popular opinion not all billionaires profit from free trade.

May 17, 2016 - 19:07

Jason Adams

This cunt is talking about how Sanders isn't "condemning violence", etc. His response is "unacceptable"(his statement posted earlier). Talking about how his supporters aren't wanting to participate in the "Democratic process", lmao. You mean the one that was botched/rigged?

Can't wait to see her lose to that basically unknown candidate soon.

May 17, 2016 - 19:07

Levi Young

As the most popular congressman in America he's pretty much guaranteed a Vermont Senate seat for life, so he's not going anywhere no matter what happens.

May 17, 2016 - 19:07

Wyatt Young

It's really woman hater of him to not condemned the imaginary violence tbh

May 17, 2016 - 19:07

Ryan Hall

Which one of you faggots picked Hillary Clinton?

May 17, 2016 - 19:08

Daniel Rodriguez

Rolled 636, 513, 649, 812, 972, 708, 313, 744, 58, 302, 384, 811, 276, 871, 993, 555, 293, 67, 255, 964, 824, 546, 571, 97, 587, 332, 548, 463, 537, 1007, 279, 148, 495, 927, 960, 443, 610, 249, 162, 667, 550, 546, 454, 825, 393, 422, 356, 685, 489, 610, 625, 288, 131, 171, 385, 718, 503, 932, 156, 16, 914, 434, 163, 385, 336, 99, 828, 945, 347, 990, 588, 897, 511, 18, 697, 903, 439, 28, 564, 927, 638, 164, 191, 769, 335, 575, 462, 837, 483, 617, 852, 373, 27, 1015, 758, 362, 90, 561, 283, 437, 526, 871, 309, 13, 888, 1006, 916, 303, 10, 455, 205, 647, 619, 396, 392, 953, 971, 853, 766, 430, 446, 593, 802, 472, 584, 535, 833, 673, 72, 92, 86, 598, 963, 394, 610, 826, 375, 502, 104, 385, 957, 309, 7, 551, 704, 399, 479, 651, 227, 220, 56, 672, 813, 857, 120, 373, 368, 953, 22, 440, 20, 107, 13, 982, 500, 623, 784, 875, 100, 888, 235, 32, 172, 242, 583, 876, 640, 37, 502, 867, 257, 557, 515, 45, 390, 634, 417, 757, 563, 438, 172, 582, 544, 185, 540, 20, 807, 300, 895, 907 = 100980 (200d1024)

TRIBUTE FROM THE CHOSEN TO THE CHOSEN ONE

May 17, 2016 - 19:08

Isaiah Rodriguez

I said they can hit him over it to an extent, obviously not to the same extent that they could if it was someone like Cruz.

May 17, 2016 - 19:08

Jonathan Diaz

Holla Forumsacks

May 17, 2016 - 19:09

Ethan Rivera

The delusion is strong.

May 17, 2016 - 19:09

Alexander Sanchez

I didnt mean you, I was just throwing that out there in general.

May 17, 2016 - 19:09

Lincoln Moore

Oregon results when?

May 17, 2016 - 19:10

Nolan Wright

can someone translate this from Holla Forums to english?

May 17, 2016 - 19:10

Michael Bell

about an hour

May 17, 2016 - 19:10

Daniel Clark

Nice to see that level of discourse on Holla Forums is just as bad as Holla Forums. Why can't Holla Forums have a decent politics board?

May 17, 2016 - 19:11

Oliver Brooks

lmao

At least they're actually talking about how DWS is showing bias towards Clinton & that's why we're upset. Fuck them, still, lmao.

May 17, 2016 - 19:11

Jason Taylor

Rolled 1023, 973, 34, 730, 871, 417, 368, 360, 801, 225, 913, 293, 478, 858, 399, 622, 307, 123, 231, 391, 376, 92, 198, 194, 541, 143, 513, 935, 33, 569, 65, 31, 517, 99, 760, 364, 516, 104, 723, 292, 328, 612, 585, 806, 445, 983, 403, 752, 81, 634, 118, 457, 725, 316, 650, 242, 458, 139, 153, 491, 707, 218, 522, 199, 316, 258, 562, 832, 361, 261, 99, 689, 873, 684, 470, 293, 642, 873, 21, 723, 482, 139, 155, 183, 454, 805, 424, 912, 943, 577, 379, 625, 794, 900, 824, 86, 133, 361, 917, 494, 622, 1015, 159, 470, 675, 628, 763, 293, 476, 783, 1015, 958, 921, 146, 116, 351, 950, 540, 239, 868, 92, 617, 469, 886, 492, 268, 971, 625, 629, 863, 95, 226, 854, 253, 696, 504, 881, 434, 796, 333, 193, 787, 266, 90, 932, 382, 440, 858, 922, 679, 702, 1014, 271, 146, 875, 763, 413, 821, 363, 18, 660, 457, 243, 489, 710, 938, 992, 566, 348, 764, 898, 540, 526, 140, 630, 434, 521, 46, 267, 419, 724, 968, 408, 994, 90, 259, 732, 503, 55, 71, 520, 715, 528, 762, 179, 213, 676, 147, 778, 1024 = 101891 (200d1024)

HE WAS SAYING THAT NEGROAPES ARE PART OF THE PROLETARIAT YOU FAGS LOVE SO VERY MUCH

May 17, 2016 - 19:11

William Williams

...

May 17, 2016 - 19:12

Landon Watson

Why are so many of you voting for trump? Is it out of spite or do you genuinely think he would be better than the shill?

May 17, 2016 - 19:12

Dylan Hall

Didn't Tyler predict 66% in Oregon? A big enough win there will probs drown out the Kentucky news. I hope it gets close, Sanders can't afford any hits in momentum. A close to even tie is ok, but he needs all but NJ.

May 17, 2016 - 19:12

Camden Perry

Did anyone else just catch that news anchor realise she was about to read out the reason why people in Nevada were angry and she just outright lied about the content of the press release?

May 17, 2016 - 19:12

Tyler Gray

I can't speak for everyone but I'd pick him out of spite and to trigger SJW's. Even if I think he's a massive shill who won't follow through with any of his promises.

May 17, 2016 - 19:13

Kayden Smith

Because retards like you inhabit this site

This thread was linked on Holla Forums a few hours ago

May 17, 2016 - 19:13

Jack Rodriguez

Fixed the poll (forgot to include an option for "Other candidate")

Bernie supporters: Vote in this strawpoll for how you'd vote in November if it's between Hillary and Trump.

www.strawpoll.me/10242233/

May 17, 2016 - 19:13

Luis Fisher

Yep.

May 17, 2016 - 19:14

Zachary Phillips

It was a direct quote because your comment makes no sense, user. And I'm not even that user. We have a consensus here that billionaires tend to benefit from porky trade deals.

May 17, 2016 - 19:14

Jose Baker

They're accelerationists.

May 17, 2016 - 19:14

Ayden Walker

When it comes to trade and foreign policy Trump is the lesser of two evils.

May 17, 2016 - 19:14

Gabriel Anderson

poal.me is better than strawpoll

May 17, 2016 - 19:15

Logan Hall

We're not.

May 17, 2016 - 19:15

Carson Mitchell

Not good enough lad
#BasiagoOrBombs

May 17, 2016 - 19:15

Ian Green

...

May 17, 2016 - 19:16

Jayden Garcia

We aren't?

May 17, 2016 - 19:16

Blake Williams

>>>Holla Forums

May 17, 2016 - 19:16

Kevin Jenkins

Where do they wanna accelerate us to?

May 17, 2016 - 19:17

Ryan Lewis

I thought so. I was going to check a while ago, but ultimately didn't care enough I guess, lmao

May 17, 2016 - 19:17

Jordan Foster

It's taking an awful long time for those last precincts to come in

May 17, 2016 - 19:17

Logan Jenkins

Anyone have a reasoned prediction for how Kentucky will go?

May 17, 2016 - 19:17

Michael Cooper

There is a difference between the majority of billionaires and all billionaires. Trump's wealth is primarily tied into construction, resorts, casinos, and media rather than manufacturing. Trade deals aren't really beneficial there and in some ways are quite detrimental as the citizens have less money to be spending on things like your resorts. You can't exactly outsource people to do your roulette tables or clean your hotel rooms.

May 17, 2016 - 19:18

Aaron Turner

Holla Forums kiddie aussie shitposter invasion hour is aa bad time for this, OP.

May 17, 2016 - 19:18

Jonathan Harris

the gap is large enough and there are so few precincts, unless bernie wins them all by landslide margins ky will have voted for clinton

May 17, 2016 - 19:19

Jaxon Diaz

There's only 0.3% of the vote left mate

May 17, 2016 - 19:19

Joseph Thompson

...

May 17, 2016 - 19:19

Julian Nelson

Except he literally does exactly that with H1-Bs

May 17, 2016 - 19:19

Matthew Clark

They are, fundamentally, the same.

May 17, 2016 - 19:20

Evan Lopez

sorry i wrote it at 1% and meant whether or not bernie would see gains or loss in the end enough to get it like a tie.

May 17, 2016 - 19:20

Matthew Thomas

...

May 17, 2016 - 19:21

Easton Thomas

Rolled 808, 955, 741, 790, 193, 718, 782, 570, 720, 796, 267, 307, 331, 89, 588, 74, 489, 356, 459, 225, 91, 1021, 776, 666, 772, 699, 832, 769, 272, 477, 470, 56, 407, 186, 846, 600, 904, 603, 145, 599, 374, 411, 905, 705, 500, 468, 779, 988, 824, 213, 188, 915, 210, 964, 556, 981, 638, 364, 725, 909, 840, 170, 965, 223, 355, 786, 822, 234, 365, 967, 833, 738, 354, 714, 419, 853, 157, 173, 817, 981, 386, 1005, 871, 595, 944, 402, 551, 557, 765, 252, 442, 580, 422, 382, 803, 776, 143, 600, 1010, 507, 543, 819, 221, 896, 508, 640, 725, 665, 813, 517, 621, 175, 497, 467, 769, 416, 868, 296, 973, 609, 548, 390, 165, 969, 772, 967, 721, 915, 542, 707, 398, 60, 501, 618, 956, 1008, 234, 656, 649, 22, 148, 245, 197, 645, 711, 965, 37, 555, 237, 1009, 139, 784, 375, 303, 728, 122, 246, 424, 12, 787, 106, 409, 847, 607, 3, 778, 591, 237, 410, 215, 259, 558, 459, 455, 178, 146, 395, 215, 701, 632, 199, 840, 391, 573, 119, 95, 694, 364, 519, 706, 127, 625, 90, 974, 207, 93, 728, 797, 329, 113 = 107114 (200d1024)

JUST GOTTA KEEP PHONEBANKING AMIRITE?

May 17, 2016 - 19:21

Isaac Scott

...

May 17, 2016 - 19:21

Eli Fisher

That's not outsourcing nor does it have anything to do with trade deals. H1-Bs is importing more labor into your own country, not exporting jobs to other countries. While both are detrimental and drive wages down there's a distinct difference, and the latter can easily be mitigated through things like a set minimum wage. I fully expect Trump to backtrack on H1-Bs which is admittedly aggravating but nowhere near as bad as exporting industry and TPP.

May 17, 2016 - 19:23

Liam Moore

He outsources his entire clothing line. His & Ivanka's, to China, Mexico, Bangladesh.

May 17, 2016 - 19:23

Caleb Morris

You better lube up, fuccboi

May 17, 2016 - 19:24

Levi Morris

Why? Because his name is on them? He doesn't own practically any of the shit with his name on it, user. He has no financial stake in it.

May 17, 2016 - 19:25

Dominic Rodriguez

You realize that the Trump hat is a knockoff, right?

May 17, 2016 - 19:26

Oliver Hernandez

Real MAGA hats are made in the US.

May 17, 2016 - 19:27

Jaxon Miller

Trump & Clinton are porkies, user. It's better you accept this now rather than later.

May 17, 2016 - 19:27

Gavin Perez

Prove it my friend.

May 17, 2016 - 19:27

Dominic Thompson

He's a knockoff candidate.

May 17, 2016 - 19:29

Grayson Watson

do you not know what black people are

May 17, 2016 - 19:29

Zachary Garcia

Porkies are what you guys call capitalists, right?

May 17, 2016 - 19:30

Jaxon Thomas

Basically.

May 17, 2016 - 19:31

Jonathan Scott

yeah, these bourgeoisie shits do not realize the term is offensive to muslims :

May 17, 2016 - 19:31

Ryder Butler

Proof?

May 17, 2016 - 19:31

Jaxson Baker

...

May 17, 2016 - 19:31

Wyatt Davis

Yeah, a spook.

May 17, 2016 - 19:31

Jacob Brown

No

May 17, 2016 - 19:32

Juan Martinez

...

May 17, 2016 - 19:32

Joshua Bennett

Kentucky sure doesn't.

May 17, 2016 - 19:32

Ryder Fisher

How is it offensive to muslims?

May 17, 2016 - 19:33

Leo Ross

...

May 17, 2016 - 19:33

Wyatt Perry

snopes.com/donald-trump-hat-china/
Only unofficial ones are From outside US.

They aren't outside of the country if they're here.

May 17, 2016 - 19:33

Ethan Lopez

It's a Holla Forumsack, moron

May 17, 2016 - 19:34

Blake Perry

...

May 17, 2016 - 19:34

David Flores

So I guess migrants are fine too then.

May 17, 2016 - 19:34

Alexander Barnes

...

May 17, 2016 - 19:34

Benjamin Peterson

Jeez, it's just a simple question. Calm down user.

May 17, 2016 - 19:35

Juan Lee

Well I can't exactly argue that Trump's not a capitalist. Hell I'm a capitalist as I'm a small business owner. Not all of us porkies like free trade deals.

May 17, 2016 - 19:36

Hudson Edwards

Yes, migrants are fine as long as they're encouraged to assimilate and go through normal migration process.

May 17, 2016 - 19:37

Nathan Bailey

Small business owners are great as far as we're concerned, especially if you don't treat your employees like shit and are more of a leader than an owner.

Consider yourself welcome here.

May 17, 2016 - 19:37

Carson Sanchez

Holla Forums confirmed for actual classcucks

May 17, 2016 - 19:38

Colton Brown

...

May 17, 2016 - 19:38

Isaac Campbell

?

Gay post

May 17, 2016 - 19:38

Jaxson Anderson

I make fun of Holla Forums more than I do you guys though you're trying pretty hard to make yourselves look just as dumb actually.

May 17, 2016 - 19:39

Nathaniel Stewart

...

May 17, 2016 - 19:39

Justin Rivera

FRENZIED
PETIT
BOURGEOIS

WHY DIDNT I FUCKING LISTEN TO DR. REICH

May 17, 2016 - 19:39

Luis Clark

there is no ethical consumption under capitalism worker owned coop's is the acceptable option

May 17, 2016 - 19:40

James Gomez

Many if not most of these small businesses operate almost exactly like a coop anyway. Don't be a cuck.

May 17, 2016 - 19:41

Michael Adams

...

May 17, 2016 - 19:41

Dominic Jackson

Why does consumption need to be principled in any way?

May 17, 2016 - 19:41

Christian Hall

It's only a few steps away from socialism though. Just need to share ownership with workers, and have some elections. Is that v2?

May 17, 2016 - 19:41

Justin Phillips

No they fucking don't
Tripfags were a fucking mistake

May 17, 2016 - 19:41

Dominic Moore

Proof?

May 17, 2016 - 19:42

Charles Cruz

Prove it. We can't just categorically call everyone who owns a business an enemy.
You reply that to everything I say though.

Common sense and knowledge of what an ESOP is.

May 17, 2016 - 19:43

Dylan Lee

My post here was not saying that "all small business owners are our enemies" but that thinking of yourself as a "capitalist" as a small business owner is pure classcuckery.

May 17, 2016 - 19:44

Easton Richardson

They aren't owned by their workers.
Jesus christ read some theory, please.

May 17, 2016 - 19:44

Austin Bennett

Worker's cooperatives are the only acceptable form of "business" to a real socialist. There are no "ethical" entrepreneurs, all exploit the labor of their workers.

May 17, 2016 - 19:45

Sebastian Rivera

Small businesses are normally incredibly exploitative. Don't fall for this meme.

May 17, 2016 - 19:46

Lincoln Gonzalez

This statement makes no sense to me. If you are a small business owner and are a socialist/communist how could you reconcile that with hiring workers who did not own a portion of the business?

May 17, 2016 - 19:46

Dominic Wright

It doesn't matter business owners shouldn't own businesses period ether full worker owned co-op's or be self employed

May 17, 2016 - 19:47

Ethan Thompson

read some fucking theory

May 17, 2016 - 19:48

Justin Thompson

If the "boss" on paper doesn't exploit the workers and takes input, etc. etc. then he's hardly effectively an owner. We shouldn't settle for less but don't be a purist either.

Oh, that is true, arguably, but I think that's splitting semantic hairs.

gay

May 17, 2016 - 19:49

William Diaz

Everything I'm seeing people post is that its completely unacceptable to own a business so I think I'm entirely justified to say that if you're a small business owner identifying as anything other than a capitalist is idiocy.

May 17, 2016 - 19:49

William Howard

It's not idiotic, just hypocritical.

May 17, 2016 - 19:50

Gabriel Bell

He does
He always does
It's the basic fucking functions of capitalism

Reformism rots the brain, my god

May 17, 2016 - 19:51

Carter Lewis

Dude are small businesses better or worse than big businesses? That's what it boils down to.

May 17, 2016 - 19:51

Logan Brown

Neither.

May 17, 2016 - 19:52

Julian Lee

Objectively, yes, because they aren't as detached from the people around them. Also read:

May 17, 2016 - 19:52

Joshua Garcia

Is getting fucked in the ass with lube better or worse than without it?

May 17, 2016 - 19:53

Ethan Harris

You can say the exact same thing about "big businesses". You both need to read some bloody theory.

May 17, 2016 - 19:55

Brody Ross

Exactly my point. Small businesses can vary from "textbook socialism" to "Walmart" regardless of cute labels like "coop" but skew left.

May 17, 2016 - 19:55

Christopher Diaz

As a small business owner, you are functioning as an exploitative upper class to your workers, but still share the overall interests of the working class as you are overshadowed by the actual ruling elites. Hence, not a "capitalist" per se. Petite-bourgeois function as bourgeois but are closer to the working class than the ruling class.

In other words, read some fucking theory.

May 17, 2016 - 19:55

Parker Wright

...

May 17, 2016 - 19:57

Easton Flores

"Unofficial winner" lmao

I guess she is; I just found it funny. Has anyone called it for Hillary yet? I wonder why it's saying "unofficial".. Far be it from me to question the MSM anymore, though.

May 17, 2016 - 19:57

Jeremiah Powell

Deer god I hope your kidding.

Small business don't have as much power fam, and as well it would be easier to implement le socialism.

May 17, 2016 - 19:58

Hudson Morales

msnbc calls her the "Apparent winner"

May 17, 2016 - 19:58

David Murphy

She won. It's not possible for Bernie to make up the gap. The question is if they bother giving the extra delegate to Hill or just split it.

What I'm saying is not everyone is associated with leftist academia words from 150 years ago.

May 17, 2016 - 19:59

Eli Jones

My point is they can treat their workers about the same if they want, my sister worked at an extremely shitty dog daycare.

May 17, 2016 - 19:59

William Ward

I think I'm going to fucking vomit

May 17, 2016 - 20:00

Juan Fisher

Yeah, it's just weird that they usually always call it for her, even at 1%, but seem to be somewhat skiddish now for some reason.

Polls closed in Oregon, now, guys! Stay tuned.

May 17, 2016 - 20:00

Anthony Ramirez

lesser of two evils etc.

May 17, 2016 - 20:01

Luis Nelson

That doesn't change that their employer is extracting their surplus labour.

May 17, 2016 - 20:01

Jaxson Rogers

...

May 17, 2016 - 20:01

Landon Williams

Kill yourself.

Often there's hardly a difference between a cooperative and a small business.

Are they though? I'm sure there are plenty of small businesses that have like three employees and no wages or something.

May 17, 2016 - 20:01

Chase Morgan

It's ok, user.

May 17, 2016 - 20:02

Matthew Allen

…yes.
This is why you need to read some theory.

May 17, 2016 - 20:03

Isaac Morris

Just filter the tripfag already.

May 17, 2016 - 20:03

Colton Allen

Upcoming speech from Bernie in Cali. Anyone got a stream?

May 17, 2016 - 20:04

Justin Diaz

The employer had to invest capital to form the business and is taking a larger financial risk. Much easier to bounce back from the business going under as an employee than it is as an owner.

May 17, 2016 - 20:04

Ethan Smith

you complete fucking normie please read my posts before you find a way to feel superior to me

This is why we need IDs, so I can filter you.

May 17, 2016 - 20:04

Cameron Watson

NO

May 17, 2016 - 20:05

Robert Rogers

Oregon starting out strong for Bernie.

May 17, 2016 - 20:06

Jason Jones

We need a good counter argument for this.

May 17, 2016 - 20:07

Logan Myers

Alright, yall motherfuckers better make a new thread for this. So you can have a real debate. Also, thread is being derailed like a motherfuckers.

May 17, 2016 - 20:08

Mason Lee

It was a completely irrelevant point to what we were fucking talking about, why the fuck should I respond to it? We were talking about the qualitative difference between worker-owned businesses and "small businesses" (i.e. petit-bourgeois enterprise).
Just fuck off you retard.

May 17, 2016 - 20:08

Logan Carter

>>>/reddit/

May 17, 2016 - 20:09

Owen Jones

...

May 17, 2016 - 20:09

Chase Thompson

What I'm saying, is many small businesses are worker-owned in all but name.

Geez.

May 17, 2016 - 20:09

James Lopez

...

May 17, 2016 - 20:12

Jose Smith

Either they are or they aren't, there are no two ways around this.

May 17, 2016 - 20:12

Daniel Baker

Holy shit Marion County

May 17, 2016 - 20:13

Isaiah Barnes

IN ALL BUT NAME. As in, the owners aren't useless liberal arts majors who know that out of touch crap. Face it, the left needs to make its rhetoric accessible to the masses and it doesn't even have to be dumbed down per se.

May 17, 2016 - 20:14

Nicholas White

That would be you, user.

"SJWs" don't matter to me. It's illogical thinking, easily rebutted & cannot last. Idpol is for the lazy. That sort of divisiveness is good for no one, except porky in the long run.

May 17, 2016 - 20:16

Carson Miller

What the fuck are you even saying now? If an employer isn't a humanities graduate he somehow doesn't extract surplus value anymore?

It certainly needs to if you're anything to go by.

May 17, 2016 - 20:17

Connor Watson

I hate to say it guys, but this doesn't look good. We needed 65% of the vote, remember?

THE EMPLOYERS OF SOME BUSINESSES DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT LEFTISM TO KNOW TERMS LIKE "COOPERATIVE" YET EFFECTIVELY RUN THEIR BUSINESS AS SUCH, YOU COMPLETE FUCKING TOOL

May 17, 2016 - 20:18

Anthony Perez

Where are these businesses? Show them to me. I don't give a fuck about what they are called.

May 17, 2016 - 20:19

Parker Jones

Brutal

May 17, 2016 - 20:19

Julian Jones

BERNIE LIVESTREAM IN CALI

youtube.com/watch?v=JE3TYNAR7w0

May 17, 2016 - 20:21

John Long

All around you. Got a bakery nearby? It's probably run by a guy, his wife and his two friends, all of whom split the profits and own 25% of the business.

May 17, 2016 - 20:21

Brody Kelly

These are mutually exclusive.

May 17, 2016 - 20:21

Jeremiah Russell

If you didn't care you wouldn't be so butthurt over who I'm planning on voting for. I hope he gets elected to trigger people just like you.
With that said, you also completely ignored the other half of my statement where I called him a massive shill.

May 17, 2016 - 20:22

Logan Wright

Not in the situation I'm describing.

May 17, 2016 - 20:22

Ayden Brooks

You are a special kind of stupid.

May 17, 2016 - 20:23

Alexander Ward

Okay

Then it's a co-operative. This is not what we were fucking talking about. We are talking about businesses were this isn't the case.

You basically are saying

May 17, 2016 - 20:24

Wyatt Cruz

Employed, hired, almost synonyms dude. These business owners don't employ people, but the businesses do. These business owners don't employ people, but they do hire people. Don't sue me for getting mixed up.

>We are talking about businesses were this isn't the case.
You're drowning in semantics. Yes, these businesses are technically cooperatives and under some definitions not businesses, but the Holla Forumslack I was replying to could effectively be running his business like a cooperative. I said small businesses are often worker owned, which is true.

May 17, 2016 - 20:28

Jaxson Walker

Small get eaten by big.
That's the way of CAPITALISM.

Eventually, the few "petit-bourgies" left, are inconsequential enough for them to be considered prols.

Then the "middle-class" is lost and capitalism fails.

It's not an external factor. It's built in the system.

May 17, 2016 - 20:29

Ryder Barnes

Holy shit.

May 17, 2016 - 20:30

Thomas Wright

Kill me

No I'm not

Right… so they are co-operatives. Again, not what we were fucking talking about.

He is not.

That's not what you said.

May 17, 2016 - 20:32

Isaiah Martin

I ignored this part because I didn't see a problem with it; I agree.

I'm just telling you that voting regarding idpol is stupid, from either side.

May 17, 2016 - 20:32

Nicholas Phillips

...

May 17, 2016 - 20:33

Jordan Rodriguez

THE CORPORATION IS A PERSON

CYBERPUNK IS THE FUTURE!

THE FUTURE IS NAO!

May 17, 2016 - 20:34

Cameron Flores

That is true. It's a tendency, though, and not a rule.

Well when I replied to him I didn't realize he was a Holla Forumslack who most definitely was not running his business ethically. OK?
Yes, that is literally what I was implying from my first post on the subject. I just expressed it differently because "worker owned" doesn't mean much to a lot of people.

May 17, 2016 - 20:35

Luke Russell

And you say I'm drowning in semantics. Christ almighty.

May 17, 2016 - 20:37

Landon Jackson

...

May 17, 2016 - 20:38

James Harris

Depends on the business, but even a mom and pop shop will hire random high schoolers for a minimum wage or some shit. I currently work in a family-owned restaurant. By no means are they wealthy, they're actually tight on money and they still manage to pay me more than minimum, but they still hire for wages dude and the employees have minimal say in the process. Cooperative systems are the exception for small businesses, not the norm as you seem to be implying. It's much more palatable because it's close and friendly and all, but it's still capitalism at the end of the day.

May 17, 2016 - 20:38

Adam Murphy

...

May 17, 2016 - 20:38

Christopher Torres

A "business" cannot hire people, it's an abstraction you enormous buffoon.

May 17, 2016 - 20:38

Juan Sanders

Trump confirmed for Satan

May 17, 2016 - 20:40

Camden Campbell

Apparently you don't know what I meant by that. You take everything far too literally which caused this in the first place.

Bitch where?

I'd actually argue that's more or less acceptable if the term is clearly temporary. No reason to rearrange everyone's portions when the newbie won't be around come next month.

So is the government. It is much shorter to say the government did X thing than to say people who associate themselves with the government did X thing.

May 17, 2016 - 20:43

Gabriel Jackson

I'm seeing on SandersForPresident that the results showing up on Guardian et al. are estimates using early votes. Is that true?

May 17, 2016 - 20:44

Ayden Young

Except in that case, claiming the government did X refers to actual people in charge of it. You asserted that a business which possesses zero employers is capable of employing workers. Keep digging, though.

May 17, 2016 - 20:46

Mason Perez

So how do people join the business if it has no employers?

May 17, 2016 - 20:47

Bentley Martin

Been stuck at 60% for a while now. Bernie beating Hillary nicely. I guess the check mark means they've called it for Sanders?

May 17, 2016 - 20:52

John Reyes

Yep. We don't know if those are actual results or just estimates though. Hopefully they're just estimates because otherwise this doesn't bode well for California and the delegate count.

May 17, 2016 - 20:54

Tyler Adams

FUCK
YOU

May 17, 2016 - 20:55

Dylan Lopez

You don't, that's the point.

Three people working together are not employed by a business, they just own their own labor. Hence, co-op. If you want to join this "business" than you enter by the mutual agreement of cooperation of all involved parties.

This organization is only described as a business by the capitalist system's lack of better terminology, which presumes you are functioning by it's rules. It is only by the hierarchical relationship between an employer (an individual or group of individuals) and the exploited employee that you can have a capitalist enterprise.

May 17, 2016 - 20:55

Jace Perry

So you get employed.
Save the semantics.
Well this part is true.

May 17, 2016 - 20:57

Jackson Bell

...

May 17, 2016 - 20:58

Zachary Mitchell

Is the reason why Bernie got such a blowout in Washington state (72.7%) but is only getting 53% in Oregon due to the fact that this was a closed primary and Washington was an open caucus, or is it largely something else? I was under the impression that Oregon would be another blowout win since the demographics are so similar to Washington.

May 17, 2016 - 21:00

Owen Davis

pic related you fucking capitalist

IMPLYING WORKERS' RELEATIONSHIP TO THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION IS "SEMANTICS"
READ LITERALLY ANYTHING
JUST READ SOMETHING YOU ABSOLUTE LITERAL FUCKING ACTUAL RETARD

May 17, 2016 - 21:00

Evan Powell

bernie seems to do pretty good in the west, thats a good sign for california, although all the rich limousine liberals who have never seen a real life black person will probably vote Hillary.
Still….the west is the best

May 17, 2016 - 21:01

Matthew Ward

'to employ' means 'to give someone work and pay them for it'. In a co-operative you get paid because money is the fruit of your labor because of our trade system, so it technically fits anyway. Because our society is capitalist I say employ for the lack of a better word.

What word would you rather I use?

People are saying that's just an estimate.

YOU FUCKING NIGGER WHETHER OR NOT YOU GET PAID BACK WITH MONEY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MEANS EAT SHIT

May 17, 2016 - 21:01

Angel Robinson

THAT'S IT'S EXPLICIT DEFINITION, YOU DOUBLE BUCKO

May 17, 2016 - 21:06

Wyatt Hill

Bernie does poorer in closed primaries, no doubt. He appeals to lots of independent voters. Honestly, they need to simplify the voting process because this primary has shown how absurd it can get.

May 17, 2016 - 21:07

Alexander Martinez

Rolled 193, 116, 694, 687, 319, 918, 33, 691, 282, 456, 901, 164, 602, 939, 574, 350, 401, 85, 465, 688, 178, 542, 451, 613, 587, 565, 586, 697, 985, 696, 887, 153, 811, 557, 840, 105, 450, 873, 796, 731, 304, 673, 895, 905, 588, 444, 231, 988, 529, 695, 651, 707, 212, 78, 295, 798, 642, 881, 471, 602, 552, 334, 755, 339, 890, 570, 443, 315, 418, 215, 22, 722, 887, 917, 603, 450, 336, 833, 414, 865, 504, 41, 547, 715, 118, 842, 489, 760, 698, 959, 338, 226, 269, 68, 564, 134, 638, 1007, 449, 32, 197, 471, 754, 60, 363, 332, 509, 699, 140, 923, 539, 643, 963, 62, 334, 57, 903, 823, 816, 577, 758, 129, 802, 2, 197, 341, 135, 835, 324, 583, 866, 520, 29, 595, 580, 392, 927, 65, 66, 43, 987, 604, 686, 926, 666, 1019, 982, 544, 817, 774, 96, 550, 902, 897, 552, 74, 214, 686, 908, 537, 245, 750, 33, 274, 321, 612, 665, 223, 677, 731, 265, 639, 310, 950, 540, 976, 945, 498, 495, 738, 247, 591, 264, 125, 464, 815, 199, 678, 477, 83, 190, 722, 832, 223, 995, 129, 835, 636, 351, 487 = 105533 (200d1024)>COMMIES STILL ARGUING SEMANTICS

JUST STOP BEING A CUCK AND HELP MAGA

May 17, 2016 - 21:09

Jace Gutierrez

...

May 17, 2016 - 21:13

Xavier Walker

you forget about all the blacks in california that are going to vote hillary. its a shame but these low information voters dont understand the bernie is the only one who cares about them.

May 17, 2016 - 21:14

Andrew Nguyen

You are completely fucking retarded. The coop has expenses to pay and it makes sense for the coop to take money from the workers to keep itself running. The vast majority of it though ends up with the worker. They keep the profit they make, not the revenue. The expenses get paid and then the people get paid. And naturally this will be in money because when you sell bread people will take your bread but they will want to give you money. Money is the fruit of your labor and it is the value of your labor.

You also seem to think that every business is a manufacturing job where one person can make one entire product, and they then receive money proportional to the value of their labor. That's not how a bakery or any other type of business or even modern manufacturing jobs work. How cooperatives actually work is usually simple fractions- we'll each take 1/4 of the profit.

Do you see anybody taking the bait? No? Go masturbate to anime, Trump Chump, it'll be a better use of your time.
those are some pretty ok grills tho

May 17, 2016 - 21:14

Adam Peterson

>>>Holla Forums

May 17, 2016 - 21:16

Brandon Lee

its not a coop unless the money/goods/whatever being taken from the workers out of the portion that is the value of their work is taken entirely voluntarily.

Anything short of that is merely capitalism with a slightly more employee oriented business plan

May 17, 2016 - 21:16

Nathaniel Reyes

Rolled 341, 588, 829, 287, 480, 680, 263, 442, 165, 927, 65, 750, 881, 537, 617, 704, 234, 926, 708, 465, 327, 937, 332, 756, 738, 795, 471, 777, 713, 897, 162, 29, 460, 991, 316, 940, 646, 578, 357, 811, 480, 421, 536, 337, 958, 129, 17, 167, 30, 724, 631, 357, 636, 962, 88, 349, 733, 559, 102, 422, 431, 263, 450, 891, 229, 765, 807, 874, 319, 139, 660, 798, 559, 172, 111, 493, 301, 127, 659, 331, 850, 265, 687, 461, 203, 775, 810, 936, 309, 912, 333, 740, 151, 783, 607, 379, 524, 389, 229, 842, 527, 889, 616, 62, 37, 726, 554, 338, 853, 189, 668, 678, 454, 330, 115, 657, 80, 925, 568, 388, 812, 901, 103, 962, 660, 709, 317, 159, 74, 546, 1001, 600, 411, 593, 662, 448, 294, 192, 785, 123, 380, 428, 800, 833, 758, 915, 465, 837, 815, 9, 201, 603, 910, 304, 541, 545, 1013, 858, 704, 62, 379, 680, 662, 790, 249, 300, 213, 542, 491, 998, 664, 870, 401, 440, 679, 134, 331, 119, 971, 121, 128, 148, 724, 13, 452, 240, 558, 440, 73, 237, 502, 452, 917, 140, 217, 141, 439, 430, 683, 929 = 102008 (200d1024)

BLACKS ARE DUMB, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO TELL YOU THAT

I JUST ENJOY DICE ROLLS

May 17, 2016 - 21:17

Jace Foster

ok I was being a little funny. But seriously the black vote has been sabotaging bernie in a lot of state. I dont understand how or why but hillary has them completely in a trance.

May 17, 2016 - 21:18

Easton Scott

You also seem to think that every business is a manufacturing job where one person can make one entire product, and they then receive money proportional to the value of their labor. That's not how a bakery or any other type of business or even modern manufacturing jobs work. How cooperatives actually work is usually simple fractions- we'll each take 1/4 of the profit.
I'm done

May 17, 2016 - 21:19

Logan Wood

Rolled 1006, 325, 83, 152, 493, 486, 50, 665, 828, 203, 779, 243, 933, 22, 788, 646, 149, 108, 667, 755, 531, 95, 171, 208, 538, 582, 437, 542, 292, 153, 608, 273, 478, 690, 425, 970, 152, 475, 611, 979, 677, 365, 198, 585, 386, 986, 206, 535, 69, 873, 265, 600, 967, 436, 807, 480, 1017, 219, 1022, 284, 372, 606, 557, 849, 272, 982, 795, 423, 432, 381, 378, 84, 745, 575, 669, 106, 536, 874, 640, 605, 722, 905, 180, 665, 316, 986, 121, 309, 180, 118, 592, 551, 724, 125, 376, 995, 83, 146, 393, 514, 526, 770, 598, 247, 320, 242, 352, 856, 92, 992, 436, 814, 872, 615, 454, 164, 577, 574, 472, 757, 692, 40, 284, 391, 164, 659, 361, 247, 805, 753, 760, 307, 498, 334, 553, 818, 576, 904, 650, 667, 872, 61, 456, 720, 676, 910, 883, 228, 459, 330, 985, 126, 370, 244, 516, 534, 903, 877, 780, 683, 605, 516, 989, 79, 849, 517, 897, 401, 397, 522, 43, 244, 582, 499, 963, 234, 384, 822, 462, 842, 127, 422, 968, 497, 665, 460, 6, 543, 312, 785, 202, 917, 276, 166, 995, 101, 683, 867, 501, 55 = 102651 (200d1024)

BLACKS LIKE FREE SHIT AND HILLARY PROMISES THEM MORE

May 17, 2016 - 21:19

Oliver Gonzalez

is it really that simple? are they really that simple? I refuse to think like that but this shit has me questioning everything I thought I knew

May 17, 2016 - 21:20

Christian Thomas

It didn't seem like trolling, just a stupid thing to say.

May 17, 2016 - 21:21

Parker Murphy

...

May 17, 2016 - 21:21

Michael Long

==SAME FAG==

May 17, 2016 - 21:21

Connor Robinson

If they don't like it they can quit. The coop needs that money to survive. I don't follow.

Everyone in the coop mutually agrees to sacrifice a small portion of their revenue to keep the business running and the person in charge of enforcing this enforces this.

LTV doesn't apply in a coop.

May 17, 2016 - 21:24

Noah Flores

Rolled 464, 118, 482, 253, 328, 379, 48, 454, 182, 377, 608, 651, 799, 960, 3, 446, 34, 449, 314, 287, 144, 832, 164, 833, 912, 272, 839, 472, 683, 931, 87, 122, 25, 568, 374, 353, 947, 422, 807, 104, 799, 390, 754, 573, 326, 757, 1019, 359, 181, 308, 645, 325, 116, 809, 134, 3, 56, 972, 474, 739, 879, 561, 860, 904, 104, 210, 232, 27, 631, 14, 130, 405, 404, 884, 978, 729, 616, 972, 64, 797, 256, 709, 98, 371, 493, 232, 373, 548, 179, 847, 262, 34, 383, 98, 937, 487, 307, 144, 513, 938, 158, 643, 319, 561, 503, 272, 266, 95, 219, 329, 891, 474, 14, 989, 845, 506, 196, 194, 29, 375, 16, 291, 408, 399, 389, 320, 885, 696, 464, 374, 609, 621, 1016, 927, 158, 494, 174, 424, 588, 393, 753, 455, 867, 766, 420, 687, 247, 616, 881, 276, 990, 896, 567, 374, 270, 955, 694, 131, 627, 133, 504, 211, 754, 495, 114, 912, 989, 288, 312, 553, 680, 40, 1008, 523, 806, 403, 186, 29, 1018, 42, 305, 984, 938, 872, 333, 183, 803, 2, 313, 405, 135, 816, 615, 889, 287, 728, 776, 251, 1016, 63 = 95586 (200d1024)

BLACKS HAVE SCORED 2 STANDARD DEVIATIONS BELOW WHITES FOR GENERATIONS

IT'S REALLY THAT SIMPLE

SOCIOECONOMICS PLAYS NO ROLE BECAUSE THE GAP IS PRESENT NO MATTER THE INCOME OF THE HOUSEHOLD

May 17, 2016 - 21:24

Dominic Russell

Bullshit.

May 17, 2016 - 21:25

Jose Adams

your wrong double bucko

then whats going on here.. why are black people overwhelmingly supporting cunton? Thats a huge portion of the voting bloc

May 17, 2016 - 21:26

William Sullivan

You're so transparent it's adorable.

May 17, 2016 - 21:27

Isaac Jenkins

If the laborers dont get precisely the value of their work than it is not a coop.. it is a capitalist business. If the workers want to invest part of the value of their work into expanding the business that is THEIR choice. If it isnt their choice than they are merely employees working for a company that pays them more fairly than others but less than the value of their work.

May 17, 2016 - 21:28

Jordan Hall

2 of the posts you claimed were samefag were mine.. my original post and then another one replying to a response I got. You have got to be a troll.

May 17, 2016 - 21:29

Christopher James

You're just making yourself look like an autist, user.

May 17, 2016 - 21:30

Justin Diaz

When the coop votes on what margins to take out and how to expand that is effectively voluntary.

May 17, 2016 - 21:30

Ethan Kelly

sage

May 17, 2016 - 21:31

Michael Moore

Rolled 334, 903, 170, 258, 482, 545, 301, 172, 173, 532, 916, 298, 405, 412, 756, 359, 53, 101, 761, 296, 155, 191, 527, 745, 489, 363, 885, 980, 665, 403, 449, 999, 281, 619, 232, 763, 139, 532, 934, 312, 40, 826, 610, 445, 213, 342, 803, 266, 442, 540, 561, 596, 730, 64, 317, 195, 426, 177, 150, 67, 579, 599, 41, 860, 193, 273, 598, 332, 804, 508, 644, 844, 310, 230, 265, 523, 571, 43, 789, 1013, 583, 326, 584, 289, 389, 901, 483, 815, 53, 633, 881, 632, 207, 922, 467, 400, 170, 41, 731, 974, 549, 351, 793, 859, 580, 33, 357, 126, 76, 121, 114, 659, 447, 698, 947, 835, 574, 405, 626, 627, 13, 482, 235, 220, 379, 702, 619, 549, 742, 325, 498, 267, 676, 267, 101, 231, 299, 457, 356, 375, 578, 470, 9, 1024, 144, 955, 835, 717, 336, 437, 320, 349, 918, 554, 568, 273, 231, 162, 822, 972, 487, 295, 215, 138, 561, 315, 368, 860, 771, 724, 211, 325, 169, 219, 325, 312, 150, 136, 5, 486, 572, 324, 834, 466, 878, 378, 739, 84, 539, 536, 32, 2, 830, 246, 140, 367, 560, 508, 202, 307 = 91060 (200d1024)

WRONG AGAIN CUCK, BLACKS ARE JUST NOT AS SMART

May 17, 2016 - 21:32

Grayson Ross

...

May 17, 2016 - 21:33

Luis Lopez

Do you have any evidence for your earlier claim at all?

May 17, 2016 - 21:33

Asher Adams

the "put trump's hat on an animu gril" has got to be the sorriest, most pitiful meme I've ever seen in my life tbqh fam

May 17, 2016 - 21:34

Alexander Jones

ok thats a little more understandable.. but how would minority voting blocs be accounted for? I could see a system like that easily becoming a collaborating group voting in a manner that would disenfranchise one minority or another.. sucks but people do tend to be assholes a lot of the time.

May 17, 2016 - 21:34

Andrew Garcia

pdf attachment in my last post

May 17, 2016 - 21:34

Luke Clark

Donald Trump open to talks with North Korea

bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-36318752

How long until Trump gets Jason's coveted endorsement?

May 17, 2016 - 21:36

Ayden Ramirez

...

May 17, 2016 - 21:36

Noah Gomez

sage

May 17, 2016 - 21:36

Benjamin Richardson

FUCK

I was at work I didnt get to watch the votes come out..

FUCK FUCK FUCK

Its impossible now isnt it?

May 17, 2016 - 21:37

Daniel Diaz

It really is annoying and they're all shitty waifus from shitty shows which tells me that waifufags are losers, losers are trumpchumps, trumpchumps are waifufags, losers are waifufags, waifufags are trumpchumps, and trumpchumps are losers

As a statistics minor I am appalled.

May 17, 2016 - 21:37

Benjamin Jenkins

Rolled 167, 932, 247, 197, 991, 702, 836, 44, 869, 299, 376, 814, 482, 831, 1017, 617, 98, 577, 433, 181, 642, 851, 719, 480, 338, 57, 538, 267, 232, 307, 449, 399, 214, 695, 595, 181, 372, 407, 224, 217, 705, 600, 7, 163, 406, 1023, 780, 503, 576, 189, 683, 193, 15, 378, 673, 353, 434, 186, 620, 666, 492, 44, 40, 706, 738, 634, 887, 86, 17, 86, 303, 722, 686, 309, 884, 67, 308, 640, 570, 883, 828, 229, 52, 842, 606, 724, 171, 16, 910, 790, 681, 378, 833, 720, 59, 547, 330, 946, 633, 346, 7, 935, 44, 692, 219, 928, 759, 527, 543, 304, 386, 346, 532, 437, 164, 114, 137, 334, 129, 22, 100, 809, 399, 932, 504, 458, 455, 834, 379, 64, 156, 386, 999, 199, 54, 194, 102, 812, 720, 644, 92, 81, 990, 624, 517, 129, 737, 654, 463, 865, 675, 562, 649, 50, 470, 129, 508, 924, 962, 887, 988, 94, 248, 962, 292, 302, 131, 393, 90, 850, 13, 181, 930, 1002, 804, 423, 107, 516, 52, 569, 357, 727, 107, 1005, 777, 576, 110, 260, 475, 48, 122, 438, 141, 370, 376, 432, 671, 506, 825, 760 = 93547 (200d1024)

DUDE GOALPOSTS LMAO

May 17, 2016 - 21:38

Aaron Howard

You could set up bylaws mandating that the two groups come to a proportional compromise if the opposition is large enough or something like that.

Not necessarily. We don't know how Oregon will turn out, and Cucky Kentucky will set us back either 1 or 0 delegates.

I'm not moving any goalposts, I asked you to show me the evidence that that is true and you gave me faulty evidence.

May 17, 2016 - 21:39

Jason Evans

...

May 17, 2016 - 21:40

Elijah Perez

basically this pic

May 17, 2016 - 21:41

James Thomas

yea but every delegate that hillary gets puts her closer to getting the nomination outright. I forget what it is exactly but doesnt she need less than 100 now? Im pretty sure its looking really fucking bad right now

May 17, 2016 - 21:41

Hudson James

bylaws arent a bad idea. as long as there are governmental regulations to ensure that bilaws dont obfuscate diverse workers in any way.

May 17, 2016 - 21:42

Colton White

I could show you the sun and you would argue its the moon

May 17, 2016 - 21:43

Colton Roberts

In that case, allow me to give you some evidence that trump support is statistically proven to equate with loving to take fat black cocks up your ass. Don't go moving those goalposts now.

May 17, 2016 - 21:43

Samuel Jones

Ah hahaha; it's funny cause it's true.

May 17, 2016 - 21:44

Andrew Ross

Try harder, Holla Forumsack.

May 17, 2016 - 21:45

Justin Lewis

So, he's a Trump supporter?

May 17, 2016 - 21:45

Ayden Rodriguez

statecuck detected

May 17, 2016 - 21:45

Hudson Jones

.. whats with everyone calling concerned berniebros polacks?

are we being raided?

May 17, 2016 - 21:46

Charles Cook

stay in denial it'll be funnier when trump takes the throne

May 17, 2016 - 21:46

James Lopez

open your eyes and tell me what you think

I'll wait

May 17, 2016 - 21:46

Aaron Fisher

No. They're including DNC members who get votes called superdelegates who can pledge but can't vote until the actual convention. Many or most of them will not be loyal to Hillary no matter what.

Neither will yours.

Gay post faggot, I'm telling you as someone with statistics experience that the analysis is a fucking joke. Don't you fucking fieldsplain me.

He has a point, at least until the conditions are right for anarchy. And even then there should be some sort of regulatory group that fights for unions.

You and I both know Trump would lose to Sanders. You and I also both know that Clinton is very likely to be eliminated.

May 17, 2016 - 21:47

Owen Gonzalez

Dude, you're killing me.. Please use apostrophes.

May 17, 2016 - 21:48

Kevin Price

without regulations.. you think these monsters voting trump would just disappear? They would form fucking nazi coops or some shit.

May 17, 2016 - 21:48

Brody Anderson

And here we have the pivotal difference between us. Holla Forums wants to abolish the "throne" while Holla Forums is happy to prostrate before it so long as daddy's the one sitting on it.

May 17, 2016 - 21:48

Carter Hernandez

for what its worth.. Ive lurked Holla Forums quite a bit….

ive seen them talk about wanting to get rid of all forms of government but not until jews were deported along with black people.

May 17, 2016 - 21:49

Eli Gray

...

May 17, 2016 - 21:50

Carter Stewart

We can tell.

May 17, 2016 - 21:50

Owen Evans

Lmao, good catch user

May 17, 2016 - 21:50

Kevin Lewis

k there fella.

May 17, 2016 - 21:50

Samuel Murphy

...

May 17, 2016 - 21:51

Wyatt Martin

I think more of us should be lurking their shit to keep an eye on them and get a better idea of what we are up against.

May 17, 2016 - 21:52

Camden Myers

So reddit is still here, eh?

May 17, 2016 - 21:52

Owen James

Cumskins are amazing. :^) yes this is a shitpost

A statistical mean is not the only important part of a variable you dingus.

May 17, 2016 - 21:52

Cooper Long

I doubt it

May 17, 2016 - 21:53

Dominic Long

please…. when it happen's… do'nt kill you'reself ca'na'da will accept refugees

May 17, 2016 - 21:53

Chase Bailey

How didnt I use it right? Sometimes I type like I would talk and use ellipsis to emphasize pauses slightly longer than a full stop. My bad if that triggers you. I've never had anyone call me out on it before.

May 17, 2016 - 21:55

Robert Young

Doesn't surprise me in the slightest that we see a convergence of shit weeb taste, shit political orientation, and shit memery. I don't think they even like Trump, just like how you can tell they don't actually like anime considering it's all the same generic garbage girls. They just like memes.

Well, I'm glad they're not ruining any shows I like with it, but it's a really stupid, gratingly unfunny meme. Says something about the people who partake.

May 17, 2016 - 21:56

Isaac Russell

and the statistical mean puts the average iq of nigros at 87 read: retarded before the definition of retarded was changed in the 70's

May 17, 2016 - 21:56

Henry Bell

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May 17, 2016 - 21:56

Jeremiah Hernandez

...

May 17, 2016 - 21:57

Landon Butler

Which is why you should part ways from Holla Forums sooner rather than later. :^)

May 17, 2016 - 21:57

Mason Ross

...

May 17, 2016 - 21:59

Jeremiah Rodriguez

But that's confounded by income. That's a completely different variable. The one you pointed out was independent of income.

That's what I always say! Shit people are shit. Assholes tend to be delinquents. Delinquents tend to be idiots when it comes to common sense too. Etc. etc. it's all connected maaan

As if le ebin semite is any better.

May 17, 2016 - 22:00

Brandon Johnson

...

May 17, 2016 - 22:01

Parker Wilson

Porky is an OG meme, dude. Also has lots of application potential and has the effect of raising class consciousness.

MAGA hat on shitty danbooru pic? As far as I'm concerned you just ruined fap fodder.

May 17, 2016 - 22:01

Juan Martinez

...

May 17, 2016 - 22:02

Blake Scott

To be fair, I think the "TOP GUN", "MAGA", "COCK" etc. hat memes go from shit to hilarious if it's a smug pic.

May 17, 2016 - 22:03

Jonathan Reyes

hows that raised class consciousness treating bernie these days?

hows magawaifu treating trump?

case rested, cri moar

May 17, 2016 - 22:08

Andrew Davis

I wish they never fucking came up with the IQ measure. All it's done is lead idiots like this into thinking it means anything substantial.

May 17, 2016 - 22:09

Grayson Parker

If that were the cause of the problem we are talking about then, poor whites wouldnt be scoring better than rich blacks. There would atleast be some type of equalibrium somewhere.

May 17, 2016 - 22:10

Cameron Moore

Oh my god please tell me you fuckers actually call it that.

May 17, 2016 - 22:10

Anthony Foster

I guess you missed this.

Lmao.

Everything is black & white(pun intended) to Holla Forumsacks.

May 17, 2016 - 22:13

Oliver Perez

No I didnt miss that. If it were even a factor rich blacks should be able to outscore poor whites. Im not even that fag spamming all the hatefacts I am just fucking frustrated with every state turning up as 'black people vote for clinton yet again'. So I started actually looking into this shit. And Im honestly starting to think the fucking Holla Forums nazis are actually halfway right about this one subject.

May 17, 2016 - 22:17

Gabriel James

Some of these fags just can't accept facts if it conflicts with their social justice narrative. There will never be socialism as long as we have multiculturalism in America.

May 17, 2016 - 22:18

Kayden Mitchell

"socio-economic factors" refer to more than just income. It's a complex, interrelated bundle of variables. The pdf posted wasn't even talking about IQ but about SAT scores. It also stressed that the issue was "more complicated" than income alone.

May 17, 2016 - 22:18

William Jones

...

May 17, 2016 - 22:20

Josiah Garcia

kek
I love that you guys actually think that's helping him.

May 17, 2016 - 22:21

Andrew Young

...

May 17, 2016 - 22:21

Luis Clark

What's the context of the second image?

May 17, 2016 - 22:23

Parker Scott

so socioeconomic factors also include the fact that they are niggers but them being niggers isnt a factor?

You should write a sequel to catch-22

May 17, 2016 - 22:24

Jacob Hill

Stop drinking the damn Kool-Aid. A lot of black people are disenfranchised and disillusioned with the political system (as they should be). Even then, plenty of blacks vote for Bernie, usually younger voters. Rampant voter suppression doesn't help (and you can probably be sure that poor/minority voters are hit harder by this). In any case, I'm pretty sure age predicts voting in this case much better than race does. Current problems are likely the result of misinformation/poorly informed, lack of access, distrust in the process, lack of motivation, or maybe just life getting in the way of people trying to get involved.

To think it's all race-based is absurdly oversimplistic.

May 17, 2016 - 22:25

Gabriel Reed

you're so transparent it's adorable.

This raid is so complex I cant tell who belongs anymore.

May 17, 2016 - 22:26

Nathaniel Bennett

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May 17, 2016 - 22:26

Daniel Wright

yea because the older they get the higher the likelihood of them being felons.

May 17, 2016 - 22:27

Angel Walker

mein gott

May 17, 2016 - 22:27

Ryder Ortiz

Grammar nazi much?

May 17, 2016 - 22:28

Asher Hughes

FUCKIN BERN!

May 17, 2016 - 22:29

Jaxon Parker

That wasn't a grammar nazi statement, it was a samefag statement.

May 17, 2016 - 22:29

Connor Hill

It does include race/ethnicity as a factor, but that alone is not any indicator that that is an inherent (especially fucking biological) cause of the discrepancy in test scores. It is only a contributing factor which is, by itself, already a complicated issue.

You guys are so simpleminded it's actually funny. You bunch are the last to make any claims about intelligence.

There already is.

May 17, 2016 - 22:29

Jayden Morris

...

May 17, 2016 - 22:30

Nathan Johnson

Why does Holla Forums have to shill us every time trump farts?

May 17, 2016 - 22:32

Xavier Fisher

Yeah, well nothing is going to change the minds of these le epic troles, so just laugh and move on I guess.

May 17, 2016 - 22:32

Austin Torres

"They're niggers" as a factor implies some kind of element of magic. The only kind of biological argument you could make with evidence is mental illness, which is itself a socioeconomic factor–access to medical care.

Uh, no, crimes committed by blacks are overwhelmingly by young men, followed by middle aged men with criminal records from their youth. And no one under 18 can vote at all.

Why is it that Holla Forums is so rabidly obsessed with blacks that they can't even settle for exacerbating disparate statistics? They often fucking lie about race relations.

May 17, 2016 - 22:32

Eli Jackson

Trump hates Chinese cartoons, I guess

May 17, 2016 - 22:33

Wyatt Garcia

The complicated issue is that niggers as a whole are born mentally handicapped.

May 17, 2016 - 22:33

Jeremiah Garcia

We are not all born in the same template.

May 17, 2016 - 22:35

Austin Young

...

May 17, 2016 - 22:35

Dylan Kelly

Sweet jumping Che!

Has this place completely devolved into reddit?

May 17, 2016 - 22:36

Jordan Bennett

...

May 17, 2016 - 22:37

Julian Williams

...

May 17, 2016 - 22:38

Jeremiah Nguyen

heh
I wish I could find the cap I made of that thread.

May 17, 2016 - 22:39

Thomas Allen

...

May 17, 2016 - 22:40

Anthony Johnson

...

May 17, 2016 - 22:42

Landon Bailey

thanks fam

May 17, 2016 - 22:42

Christian Wilson

Anyone have a good Oregon update?

May 17, 2016 - 22:42

Kevin Mitchell

Guardian update finally moving again.

May 17, 2016 - 22:44

Adrian Brown

most places projected he won

May 17, 2016 - 22:45

Ryan Watson

Lmao, they didn't want to dwell on his win in Oregon.

May 17, 2016 - 22:46

Andrew Turner

You're the one doing mental gymnastics by twisting language in an attempt to force us to admit something that is not substantiated with evidence.

Post the genes that make blacks inferior. If you can't, you have no argument. And yes, this can be done when genetics actually are relevant.

May 17, 2016 - 22:47

Luke Butler

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May 17, 2016 - 22:47

Kayden Myers

...

May 17, 2016 - 22:47

Ian Reed

I didn't say that, fam ;^D

May 17, 2016 - 22:49

David Ross

Fuck CNN. They couldn't possibly suck any more Shitler dick.

May 17, 2016 - 22:52

Caleb Jones

But I'm voting Stein.

May 17, 2016 - 22:53

Jaxson Jones

Yeah, I was just watching for Oregon results when the Guardian froze. I couldn't watch more than a couple of minutes. It's insane to me that people watch this dribble. Any MSM, for that matter. They're all equally terrible.

May 17, 2016 - 22:53

Ayden Bell

I watch it still,
but I have a high tolerance for bullshit.
I kind of enjoy my anger at this point.

May 17, 2016 - 22:57

Ayden Williams

figures

May 17, 2016 - 22:59

Brayden Edwards

FFR, it's "drivel" but it could have just been a typo.

May 17, 2016 - 23:00

Jack Garcia

Nice, but probably not enough.

May 17, 2016 - 23:02

Mason Lopez

Yeah, that's it.. It was a typo ;)

Thanks user

May 17, 2016 - 23:03

Adrian Cox

Forget about it, they're statistically illiterate.

May 17, 2016 - 23:05

Zachary Jackson

It is such a powerful tendency that it has corrupted and eventually destroyed nearly every single self-proclaimed socialist/communist state of the last century that failed to eliminate the distinction between creators of surplus value and appropriators of surplus value.

May 17, 2016 - 23:11

Ethan Rodriguez

...

May 17, 2016 - 23:18

Thomas Reed

What are the "5% uncommited" votes in Kentucky?

May 17, 2016 - 23:57

Matthew Rivera

I'm not entirely sure, but I think this user >>687677 has a good idea of what it means.

May 18, 2016 - 00:01

Charles Lopez

...

May 18, 2016 - 00:04

Evan Walker

Weird that it didn't link.

Here ya go :)

May 18, 2016 - 00:04

Adrian King

thanks

May 18, 2016 - 00:06

Isaac Reed

anytime, comr8

May 18, 2016 - 00:07

Noah Bell

I might need to get some sleep, soon, lmao

May 18, 2016 - 00:08

Joseph Carter

Update on the Oregon percentages.

Honestly, even though she's losing, I'm surprised Hillary is doing as well as she is in Oregon. With all the progressives there.

May 18, 2016 - 00:17

Ethan Scott

how

May 18, 2016 - 00:18

Jackson Green

*insert a witch joke here*

May 18, 2016 - 00:22

Lincoln Clark

"TYT - Bernie Sanders Wins Oregon Primary Election, Ties Hillary In Kentucky"

youtube.com/watch?v=3vD01qtv-j0

May 18, 2016 - 00:24

Brody Foster

[the witch got berned]

May 18, 2016 - 00:25

Evan Gomez

Is everyone aware the chair for KY board of elections is Allison Grimes, someone who owes Hillary Clinton a favor?

May 18, 2016 - 00:32

Blake Watson

Interesting

May 18, 2016 - 00:33

Michael Brooks

Kentuckian here. Because she endorsed Grimes or something? If so, that shouldn't matter too much, because Grimes was running against Mitch McConnell. Not to say that the Hillary camp wouldn't or couldn't use that against her. If I were to guess, I'd say Grimes is a Hillary supporter, too. She's kind of a conservative liberal(see ad below) & I'm assuming she's wealthy, too.

Here's her campaign ad, which was spoofed on the Daily Show(back when it was still watchable). youtube.com/watch?v=z7Pa16JPUlY

May 18, 2016 - 00:39

Aaron Perry

...

May 18, 2016 - 00:41

Gabriel Ortiz

Portland is idpol central.

May 18, 2016 - 01:01

Christopher Williams

...

May 18, 2016 - 01:22

Eli Howard

I found this amusing for some reason.
the entire interview was painfully awkward.
youtu.be/uDH5yyXT3iA?t=19m20s

May 18, 2016 - 01:49

Hudson Gray

How would we go about this?

May 18, 2016 - 01:50

Matthew Ramirez

...

May 18, 2016 - 02:07

Carter Torres

...

May 18, 2016 - 02:13

Jordan James

"too close to call" :^)

May 18, 2016 - 02:14

Charles Kelly

There's nothing new about that idea. It's basically just direct democracy, which is something that we need.

The masters would never allow such a thing.

May 18, 2016 - 03:09

Austin Gutierrez

Just learned that exit polling has been cancelled for CA, NJ and Kentucky.

If you wanted proof this primary is rigged, here it is.

May 18, 2016 - 04:45

Lincoln Ward

What the fuck

May 18, 2016 - 04:49

Cooper Anderson

American democracy is at rock bottom and the floor is caving in.

May 18, 2016 - 04:50

Kayden Carter

Jesus Christ.

I mean, get rigging it a little.

But rigging it THIS much?

At this point it's about ego and spite.

May 18, 2016 - 05:29

Connor Hernandez

Feel good moment. You can hear the crowd, very well, and how big it is.

youtube.com/watch?v=L6EDlYgMbUg&feature=youtu.be

May 18, 2016 - 07:10

Carter Mitchell

The fix is in

May 18, 2016 - 07:33

Hunter Young

Did Sargon train you or something?

May 18, 2016 - 08:48

Jackson Russell

Can any of you faggots remind me why Whorelary is so popular?

May 18, 2016 - 09:01

Wyatt Turner

Money

May 18, 2016 - 09:03

Colton Butler

Source?

May 18, 2016 - 09:09

Sebastian Martin

Will Stalinists go to Trump now?

www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-36318752

May 18, 2016 - 10:16

Alexander Stewart

I've been phugging saying this for years. Something like We The People but not useless, shitty and gay.

Holy shit, McConnell is Corncrackian? So is Rand Paul. Are all their Congressmen shit?

May 18, 2016 - 12:55

Jordan Reyes

Old people and dumb negros.

May 18, 2016 - 13:09

Ian Jackson

So guys, I've noticed suspicious similarities between anti-Gamergate (wait wait hear me out) and the anti-Berners. I REALLY don't want the conclusions I'm drawing to be true, and if I'm onto something then I don't know where I'm going to post this because it won't be SandersForPresident. Half of his supporters are SJWs and the thread is likely to be deleted or just not pop up because of the strong filters and a few deep cover Hillshill mods.
Maybe this is all coincidental, but I don't think it is. So here's my hypothesis- one or many of the shill firms working in Clinton's interests has also worked in Gawker/Zoe/etc.'s interests and is employing the same strategies. If this is right, the firm(s) in question probably also spun up "Obama Boys". Any thoughts?

Hang in there, buckos. There WILL be a happening regarding the emails- we just don't know how big yet.

May 18, 2016 - 13:09

Connor Russell

This. Sanders literally wins every demographic under 45 except for Blacks over 30. Those just happen to be the people who go vote.

May 18, 2016 - 13:10

Lincoln Walker

Oh, absolutely. I don't think you even have to make the case that there's some sort of conspiracy behind it, just that these are the disinformation tactics being employed in this age, and they've only been improving on a case by case basis.

May 18, 2016 - 13:14

Dominic Gomez

Silly Bernouts, the world isn't rigged against you. Pay no attention to class mobility. :)

May 18, 2016 - 13:17

Matthew Ramirez

=Sadly, this seems pretty plausible. I myself have always been of the suspicion that SJW (read, reactionary identity politicians.) courses are funded by various corporations, and also Soros. It's a way to crush any kind of class consciousness with idpol. Obviously, this is breeding grounds for fascism.

May 18, 2016 - 13:19

Oliver Jones

It's just modern-era PSYOP tactics. You'll see stuff in common just because the shills and spooks think it works. Bernie has definitely outsmarted them though IMO. They had to resort to blatant rigging because the disinfo shitstorm just doesn't work as well on the young masses.

May 18, 2016 - 13:24

Joshua Taylor

...

May 18, 2016 - 13:32

Leo Lewis

You don't know that.

May 18, 2016 - 13:33

Luis Miller

Corbyn is with is though.

May 18, 2016 - 13:47

Noah Miller

It's most likely not a coincedence. It's a sad fact of today's discourse tbh.

May 18, 2016 - 14:08

Austin Jenkins

I don't think Zoe is really that important in the grand scheme of this, despite how annoying she is.

Let's not get into insane conspiracy theories here.

May 18, 2016 - 19:39

Oliver Brooks

…do you not recall that people kept posting this exact conspiracy theory (no derogatory intent, this is in fact a theory about a conspiracy) in GG threads a while back? Do you not recall that people were speculating that the whole Gamers are Dead(TM) thing was an experiment to see if certain tactics could work to get Shittery elected? I saw this bandied about several times.

May 18, 2016 - 19:48

Carson Price

>it might be YOU

May 18, 2016 - 19:50

Nolan Roberts

! :o !

Only in my wildest fantasies

May 18, 2016 - 19:55

Isaac Richardson

Here is a worse possibility.
it might be YUI!

May 18, 2016 - 20:10

Gavin Jenkins

...

May 18, 2016 - 20:14

Bentley Green

No, no.
Don't be silly.

Yui's gonna be jailed for robbing banks and then murder the whole board population twenty years after 'le rebolution :DDDDDDD'

May 18, 2016 - 20:28

Jayden Kelly

let me fix that

Yui's gonna be robbing banks and then murder the whole board population twenty years after le rebolution in Moskow trials and be litteraly Stalin

May 18, 2016 - 20:48

Adam Lee

Aww, lmao

May 18, 2016 - 21:46

Blake Allen

Well, there goes another show I'm never watching again.

May 18, 2016 - 22:52

Levi Gonzalez

Haha, I was just playing Sim city the other day.

Anyway, fuck. When I saw Stephen interview Bernie some months ago, you could tell he wasn't feeling it, and that disappointed me. He seemed to imply that these were unattainable dreams or something. Now I don't want to see his bit on Nevada.. But I know I will watch it, anyway & be disappointed.

May 18, 2016 - 23:08

Samuel Diaz

Okay I keep seeing Hillary supporters and media outlets going in full force by saying Bernie is the Ralph Nader of 2016. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Al Gore win the popular vote in 2000 but got screwed over by some Supreme court ruling? I feel like you'd have to be pretty fucking retarded to call Sanders a Ralph Nader considering that Ralph Nader didn't really have an impact on Al Gore losing.

May 19, 2016 - 01:43

Tyler Morales

These people don't care about "facts" mate, all that matters is how it sounds.

May 19, 2016 - 01:45

Liam Jackson

It's an establishment line, all the dumb old people parrot it.

May 19, 2016 - 02:20

Ian Baker

At this point we can't trust any talk show host to know anything beyond the gossip the MSM bothers to report on.

Even Stephen Colbert has condescendingly implied Bernie or Jill Stein would be the Ralph Nader of 2016.

The fact is Jeb Bush and the five conservatives on the Supreme Court did a lot more to appoint W as president than the votes themselves. For all the shit Nader got, they never mention the millions who don't vote at all that could have changed the outcome.

Al Gore could have taken a stand and pointed out the corruption but he didn't. John Kerry could have pointed out the rigged voting machines but he didn't. Things always go deeper than what the MSM would like you to believe. The MSM wants you to think there's no such thing as voter suppression or rigged machines, its just the dumb peons voting for the "wrong" candidate because they weren't bought and sold.

I always vote third party, and anyone who tells me I'm "helping" so-and-so lose or win can go fuck themselves.

May 19, 2016 - 02:26

Luis Hall

huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-nevada-dem-chair_us_573b4b8de4b0aee7b8e7dfa2?glqxgeqztdbwqaor

Shit like (and the comments section) give me this irrational desire to see Bernie split the Dem vote. Clinton and her supporters are some of the vilest creatures on earth.

May 19, 2016 - 02:27

Isaiah Anderson

Shit like this*

May 19, 2016 - 02:29

Easton Rivera

wow, that's just a plain, bald-faced lie
Sam Stein is a worthless scumbag shill and should be first in line to be gulaged.

May 19, 2016 - 02:32

Isaac Robinson

...

May 19, 2016 - 02:35

Isaac Hernandez

youtube.com/watch?v=N4PqKCdqkaA

"Nevada Clinton Delegate Calls Sanders Disenfranchisement Wrong"

This lady gives a good look from the other side, what went on at the Nevada convention. She was also somehow removed from the delegate list, then added back on, just to find out her husband was later removed. And she's a Clinton delegate. If you have Hillary supporter friends or family & are talking politics(like me), this is a good video to use to give them insight as to how it affects both sides.

May 19, 2016 - 03:25

Blake Sullivan

This primary is honestly disgusting me. I want Trump to win just to spite these people at this point.

May 19, 2016 - 03:38

Dominic Reed

...

May 19, 2016 - 05:11

Dylan Perez

I guess you forgot that time he took that charlatan Anita Sarkeesian at her word.

May 19, 2016 - 05:35

Hunter Wood

I did Hunger Games Simulator with practically all of the candidates and it came down to Bernie and Scott Walker and Bernie killed himself, but evidently I don't have that screenshot. Take this, instead, for hope of a better future.

May 19, 2016 - 05:36

Chase Anderson

Al Gore didn't ask for a recount when he should have because it turned out later that he genuinely did win Florida. Ralph Nader was also not the spoiler the media tried to scapegoat him to be because according to exit polls it turns out more than 10x as many self-described Democrats voted for Bush than those that voted for Nader.

May 19, 2016 - 05:37

Jaxon Martinez

Yep, my mom was one of those Democrats. First time in her life she voted for a Republican. I think it was mainly due to the religious aspect(him using God in his platform, and I'm sure many of her church friends were also voting for him). Needless to say, she learned her lesson.

That's a really good point, btw, to use against the Nader narrative.

May 19, 2016 - 05:57

Aaron Kelly

It's obvious now that the Democratic Party is going to snap like a fucking twig in July. The divisions in the party are completely irreconcilable.

Get get ready for 1968 Part 2: Bernin Boogaloo.

May 19, 2016 - 08:44

Christopher Roberts

Would there be any point to going there with a sign that says

COMMUNISTS
FOR
SANDERS

or something?

May 19, 2016 - 11:25

Mason Bell

please dont

May 19, 2016 - 11:27

William Bell

...

May 19, 2016 - 11:27

Carter Barnes

He also had CURRENT YEAR man on his new show and when he proclaimed "I mean it's two thousand and fif teen right now!" he replied with "Right, right."

May 19, 2016 - 11:31

Jack Bailey

God damn, CNN if you keep sucking Hill's dick so hard it's going to fall off.

May 19, 2016 - 11:33

Isaiah Thompson

...

May 19, 2016 - 11:37

Cooper Jones

...

May 19, 2016 - 11:40

Jordan Scott

Nah, slick entryism isn't the sort of situation you want to show your power level. You'd scare the normalfags.

May 19, 2016 - 11:57

Andrew Peterson

If/when bernie loses sanders supporters should support trump, because if trump wins then you can point the finger at the new democrats for not being leftist enough and it will vindicate bernie.

thoughts?

May 19, 2016 - 12:04

Asher Perez

The MSM will counter with "Look at these crazy pipe dreamers. Somebody better stop them from destroying any chance of a progressive/liberal winning!"

May 19, 2016 - 12:05

Austin Wright

My thoughts are for you to fuck off to be honest

May 19, 2016 - 12:14

Aiden Wilson

fuck off Holla Forums

May 19, 2016 - 12:14

Ryan Baker

If I were going to vote for the right wing, I'd vote for Gary Johnson.
Fuck your ocean of piss.

May 19, 2016 - 12:37

Mason Cruz

...

May 19, 2016 - 12:54

Jordan Mitchell

nytimes.com/2016/05/19/us/politics/ex-aide-to-hillary-clinton-testifies-on-email.html?_r=0

May 19, 2016 - 13:04

Anthony Ramirez

>Mr. Lukens, a former ambassador to Senegal, was the leadoff witness in the Judicial Watch depositions. He served as executive director of the State Department’s executive secretariat under Mrs. Clinton until 2011, providing her with logistical, administrative and travel support. Judicial Watch said it was seeking his testimony because records that have already been released indicated that he had emailed Ms. Mills and others about Mrs. Clinton’s private email server.

>Thomas Fitton, the president of Judicial Watch, who took part in Mr. Lukens’s deposition, said afterward that he could not discuss the substance of the testimony because of the ground rules set by Judge Sullivan.

>But Mr. Fitton predicted that once the testimony is publicly released — perhaps as early as next week — it would show “why the State Department and Mrs. Clinton have slow-rolled this and withheld a complete explanation of what went on with her email system. What we learned is going to be embarrassing to Mrs. Clinton and the administration — maybe more than embarrassing.”

May 19, 2016 - 13:05

Ethan Nguyen

Truly both "sides" are the same.

May 19, 2016 - 13:08

Asher Edwards

I've barely eaten the past few days (I'm sick and trying to discern what food made me sick) and can't process this. Care to put it in layman's terms for me?

May 19, 2016 - 13:10

Asher Cook

As early as next week information derived from the aide that set up Clinton's email server, will be coming out that could be anywhere from humiliating to disastrous for Hillary Clinton and the Obama administration, but the people that know, Thomas Fitton of Judicial Watch, can't talk about it just yet because of rules set out by the judge.

May 19, 2016 - 13:12

Ayden Sanders

Bernie is playing a smart strategy by staying in as long as possible. The DNC is going to have the choice of picking him as their nominee and possibly winning or giving all Hilldawg's delegates to Biden or whomever and prompting the People to literally guillotine them.

May 19, 2016 - 13:17

Brayden Cook

Thank you so much! I'm doing my best to follow the investigation, especially now with the hope of leaks from FBI agents.

You forgot to take off your shitposting flag, but yeah, totally agree.

It's pretty much certain Hillary used the private server to dodge the Freedom of Information Act and coordinate with corporations, countries, and foreign officials right? Something something Clinton Foundation slush fund, something political and military favors.

May 19, 2016 - 13:21

Kayden Watson

Honestly I think Biden is porky's best choice. He's much, much more favorable than Clinton, he's closer to Obama than she is, he doesn't have an evil, flip-floppy past, and is much more likely to get progressives to rally around him, especially if they feel like they dodged the Clinton bullet. Everybody wins, except for Shillary, and us.

May 19, 2016 - 13:28

Nathan Smith

I wish they would hurry up

May 19, 2016 - 13:30

Ian Green

That seems like the most obvious scenario. I can't wait to watch CNN try to spin this as those mean corporations extorting a poor womxn and forcing her to become corrupt in order to survive in politics.

Except for the part where the DNC would have to literally hand-pick him, subverting the democratic process entirely and ignoring the other candidate still in the race and who actually earned millions of votes.

May 19, 2016 - 13:37

Carter Kelly

Democrats better hope they get Bernie.
youtube.com/watch?v=yIg5ntYCL-E

May 19, 2016 - 13:48

Jayden Long

...

May 19, 2016 - 13:53

Landon Ross

Shit, that was some good rhetoric.

May 19, 2016 - 13:59

Lucas Diaz

tfw Trump hides his power level

May 19, 2016 - 14:09

Joshua Diaz

Bernie has attacked Hillary on her war mongering record but why does sound so much more effective coming from Trump of all people?

May 19, 2016 - 14:28

Zachary Rodriguez

Because "This guy wants us to kill families and do worse torture than we already were… and even he thinks Hillary is a war hawk." Whereas it's expected for some hippie communist like Sanders to hate on politicians for being warlike.

May 19, 2016 - 14:38

Ian Parker

Either stop posting futoshits or come out of the closet

Like >>684811 said:

May 19, 2016 - 14:39

Nathaniel Walker

Traps are not gay. And Biden is just an example.

May 19, 2016 - 14:43

Henry Murphy

wut?

May 19, 2016 - 15:35

Easton Walker

Because everyone expected it from Sanders tbh. Plus he wasn't willing to go all out because muh positive campaign.

May 19, 2016 - 15:36

Luis Collins

Hillary is fucked if it's her and Trump against each other.

He's pivoting and out-flanking her from the left.

He's not actually a retard.

Holy shit.

Oh well… I'm not entirely convinced that he's going to be worse than Hillary might be.

May 19, 2016 - 16:10

Blake Adams

m.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/white_house_watch

May 19, 2016 - 16:17

Wyatt Rodriguez

Man, they've alienated Bernie's supporters too much..

May 19, 2016 - 16:20

Noah Clark

Can we get this bald son of a bitch elected in November?

May 19, 2016 - 16:22

Robert Ross

And the DNC smugly thinks they're going to win them back. What fucking idiots.

May 19, 2016 - 16:24

Adam Taylor

inthesetimes.com/features/superdelegate-interview-elaine-kamarck.html
ONE OF THE INVENTORS OF SUPERDELEGATES EXPLAINS WHY THEY WERE CREATED: TO STOP ‘OUTLIER CANDIDATES’

May 19, 2016 - 16:37

Kevin Kelly

...

May 19, 2016 - 16:56

Carter Green

Well, yeah

May 19, 2016 - 17:01

Liam Nguyen

...

May 19, 2016 - 17:05

Asher Johnson

Well.. it's kinda gay

>she :)

May 19, 2016 - 20:46

Jack Bennett

...

May 19, 2016 - 20:56

Cooper Flores

It's "futa," short for "futanari" you relentless faggot.

May 19, 2016 - 20:58

Camden Bailey

Anyone know his chances of taking California?

May 19, 2016 - 22:25

Jaxon Miller

Basically it's a lock. The question is his margin of victory.

May 19, 2016 - 22:27

Isaac Ortiz

This fucking cunt.

Hillary apparently claiming "the race is over, and I am the Democratic party nominee."

youtube.com/watch?v=mMpplXAdJqc

I just started watching; I'm sure there will be much more infuriating rhetoric to come.

May 19, 2016 - 22:31

David Stewart

You should see all the CNN talking heads doing the post-interview analysis.

May 19, 2016 - 22:34

Samuel Roberts

They really think we don't see right through this? rhetorical, obviously They just plan on the majority of America being so fucking retarded that they either don't see it, or just don't care. Luckily, Sanders has made so many people actually care, so these tactics won't work as well as they did in the past. Hopefully.

May 19, 2016 - 22:40

Eli Edwards

Those look pretty faggy I initially typed fujoshi, then partly corrected it

The real question is whether or not he'll make or threaten legal action to force a recount for prior elections, though mountains of delegates from California will make that case easier to press.

May 19, 2016 - 22:41

Henry Sullivan

They're scared he's gonna fracture the party.
One can only hope.

May 19, 2016 - 22:42

David Gray

If he talks about legalizing weed a bit more, his poll numbers should shoot up a few points.

May 19, 2016 - 22:46

Justin Jenkins

10:50 in. Watch it & rage, guys. THE AUDACITY.

Chris Cuomo: "So you get into the general election, if you're the nominee for your party–"

Hillary: "I will be the nominee for my party, Chris. T-that is already done - in effect - There is no way that, uh, I won't be."

I don't think I've hated any politician more than I hate this woman.

May 19, 2016 - 23:01

Mason Watson

I imagine this as the H symbol.

May 20, 2016 - 00:05

Cameron Reyes

Nevada DNC released a statement about the debacle, while completely insulting Sanders & his supporters. The convention in Philly is going to be crazy, guys.

nvdems.com/press/math-is-hard-for-sanders-campaign/

May 20, 2016 - 00:05

Asher Butler

That is satisfying.

May 20, 2016 - 00:07

Ethan Robinson

I don't even want to open that link.

May 20, 2016 - 01:31

Evan Gomez

Only one option then lad.

May 20, 2016 - 01:46

Ryan Harris

It's not over yet. And even then, there's many more better options than voting Trump. Including not voting at all.

May 20, 2016 - 01:57

Ethan King

...

May 20, 2016 - 02:29

Brayden James

That's pretty funny if completely wrong. Trump is a wildcard. The establishment hate him because he hasn't been vetted and processed, trained in how to think right and what can and can't be said.

Then don't complain when you get Hillary.

May 20, 2016 - 03:20

Camden Mitchell

...

May 20, 2016 - 03:23

Julian Scott

I got food poisoning, but haven't eaten out in a long time so it's from my own food. I bought groceries the morning of the day I got sick. I'm not going to just throw my fucking food away since most of it has to be good and a lot of it is fresh fruit and vegetables. Shit is expensive, not to mention perishable. All I have from before then is oatmeal so I'm making it with water and I don't buy sugar, either. I don't have the kind of money to just chuck everything out, and buying new food isn't in my budget.

The only good options here are to write-in Bernie if he doesn't endorse her, or vote for Jill Stein or some other third party and hope they reach the magic number so they can get federal funding and build a platform.

He's a world-famous businessman. He's perfectly within the "establishment" and protecting their interests. They have nothing to worry about. See how they keep pushing Hillary, the weakest dem candidate, to run against Trump instead of uniting around Bernie? They're more scared of a Sanders presidency than a Trump one.

May 20, 2016 - 03:25

Jason Cooper

Probably so but you can take that one up with the DNC. Your choices are Clinton or Trump. Clinton promises wars. Trump has only spoken vaguely about bombing ISIS and some oil. A vote for Hillary, or indeed staying home is a vote for war with Iran.

May 20, 2016 - 03:29

Oliver Bell

...

May 20, 2016 - 03:31

Robert Morgan

Lmao
>The establishment hate him

Seriously, Hillary & Trump are basically the same when it comes down to being corporate puppets. That's the main issue that concerns me, so I won't vote for either. The financial & political establishments are one in the same - that's the problem. So, Trump is establishment.

You shouldn't either. If they screw Bernie, they'll surely screw Trump. Hillary has more political pull.

May 20, 2016 - 03:35

Leo Mitchell

...

May 20, 2016 - 03:37

Zachary Jenkins

So I'm going to vote for Jill Stein and hope Trump wins so the DNC understands there are consequences for corruption, that the greens reach 5% of the vote and receive federal funding to build a platform and divide democrats, and we can run a left-leaning candidate in 2020 to oust him. Reform until revolution is possible. Elect mayors, governors, etc. sympathetic to anti-capitalist protests. Forge an environment where class consciousness is nurtured and outrage is protected.

Also:

He just won't know Hillary's bag of imperialist tricks, is all. He'll have plenty of people to help him, though. This is the guy who wants families of terrorists killed and sucks Israel's dick almost as much as he sucks his own.

May 20, 2016 - 03:41

Jordan Phillips

Trump isn't a corporate puppet. He is in this case the puppetmaster. The man who paid the Clintons to attend his wedding. Now I grant you, it could go either way. He could use the position for cynical self-enrichment, literally using the army as his own global enforcers. Or he could really try 'make america great again'. Tariffs, trying to resurrect manufacturing and not getting in stupid wars. Should he seek the first path the congress could always stop him. Should he seek the second he'd be unstoppable.

My point was if you don't vote you've only yourself to blame. Go on lad. Vote Clinton. Fulfill your destiny.

Whereas Clinton endorses killing them and everyone close to them in drone strikes?

ie. I wouldn't close Guantanamo.

Quickly now lad, name the last president who didn't.

Additionally, Trump says whatever the hell he likes. He has contradicted himself dozens of times, sometimes in the same speech. Most pundits see him running from a platform left of Clinton's. But left/pol/ won't accept him because that's too much like Holla Forums winning.

What would it take for a third party to emerge?

May 20, 2016 - 04:14

Jacob Ross

That's even worse, you dingus.

He will directly benefit from the TPP & other terrible trade deals, like he did with NAFTA(using Mexican factories to produce his clothing line). He said he'd sign over his companies to his children, so he still has major interests in trade deals.

To think Trump wouldn't be trigger happy & saying retarded things to piss off other world leaders is naive. As I said, he's for killing innocent people & more torture.

Nice deflection from Trump's words. He has not only vaguely spoken about ISIS. We're talking about Trump in this instance.

He'd just make it worse.

I know a candidate who wouldn't - Bernie Sanders. Again though, you're deflecting. Your candidate is just as much pro-Israel as Clinton.

And that is a major problem. He doesn't think.

Jesus, man.

May 20, 2016 - 04:54

Nolan Hill

We're not voting for your equally shitty candidate.
Give it up already.

May 20, 2016 - 06:00

Grayson Thomas

These are the only things he rails against. Hell just last night he was talking of scrapping NAFTA. 'possibly re-negotiate, probably scrap'. He is in agreement with Bernie over TPP.

You have an assumption. With Clinton you've got form.

Clinton will objectively be worse than Trump. She promises war with Iran. Really this single issue should be enough to swing it.

What if I post more Awoo~~~?

May 20, 2016 - 07:44

Angel Jackson

Define insane.

I think I vaguely remember something about that and not taking it that seriously but not outright rejecting it either. They may have been on to something.

Yeah, it's me. Sorry guys.
I intend to run as mayor of my old Puerto Rican hometown when the mayor quits or dies.

May 20, 2016 - 08:18

Anthony Sullivan

>trumpcucks actually think this!

May 20, 2016 - 08:53

Ethan Lewis

That's why they're pressuring Bernie to attack his own supporters with trumped up violence charges. They want him to destroy the movement he has created.

I honestly hope this shit devastates the down list. Make it a complete pyrrhic victory for the establishment. One great target would be voting out Shultz herself. We need some Florida supporters to get on that shit.

May 20, 2016 - 08:57

Anthony Williams

Trump also wants to build a wall and cause mass deportation which the international proletariat is always against.

May 20, 2016 - 10:13

Christian Morales

H-he's totally against the establishment and definitely n-not a globalist capitalist!!11!1

May 20, 2016 - 10:18

Angel Cooper

huffingtonpost.com/seth-abramson/clinton-to-californians-y_b_10053848.html
archive.is/1Kwwh
Clinton to Californians: Your Votes Will Not Affect the Democratic Primary Whatsoever
oh we're coming.
We're coming Bucko

May 20, 2016 - 10:19

Ayden Morris

Wrong

May 20, 2016 - 10:22

Jackson Collins

Beautiful.

May 20, 2016 - 10:36

Nolan Hall

She did the same thing in '08

May 20, 2016 - 10:48

William Sanchez

Like you said, he says whatever the hell he wants. He's a "business man", "the best". Why would he turn down such great business packages? Bernie actually has the record of voting against all these trade policies, and being very vocal about them at the time.

He said it, not me.

That's a possibility. Weak argument to say we should vote for corruption in Trump, either. That's basically just the reverse of what Hill shills say.

To protect who? Israel. Trump also says he's 100% for Israel. We all know what this entails.

Don't be a single issue voter, user.

May 20, 2016 - 11:16

Matthew Moore

She's so detached from reality that she thinks it's realistic and actually a good tactic.

May 20, 2016 - 11:27

Dylan Hernandez

Just saying right but Hillary has almost completely suspended campaigning. And ads. She won't be making any more public appearances, she's sending some shills like her husband. In the entire territory of Puerto Rico she only sent her senile husband and made it evident how out of touch they both are when he made some comments that suggested he doesn't realize most Puerto Ricans want more independence (talking about being able to vote in the generals and have representatives which most Puerto Ricans don't give two shits about) She's close to absent from every state but California, and all she's got is organizing offices.

The Torders and the Hillare.

May 20, 2016 - 13:07

Angel Flores

I find it amusing that either Clinton really wants to ruin the general election for herself if she win primaries or she and the DNC delusionally believe that people will vote for her after disenfranchising so with what she has been doing.

May 20, 2016 - 13:17

Gabriel Johnson

It's both. Hillary and the DNC are dead set to enter the White House with a dead party. I bet they'll even lose seats in the Congress.

May 20, 2016 - 13:52

Brody Lewis

I feel like it doesn't matter to them if she wins or loses, as long as the status quo is preserved. The only danger to that is Bernie, that's why they are going all out.

But then again, Romney genuinely thought he as going to win, so maybe they are that delusional.

May 20, 2016 - 13:58

Logan Sanchez

Trump is not the status quo, don't be stupid. He means nothing to them except the preservation of capitalism, and not even the neoliberalism but the free market values. That is the only thing he could possibly give them.

May 20, 2016 - 14:00

Carson Cooper

Never underestimate the power of self-delusion. Nobody can fool you better than you can.

May 20, 2016 - 14:00

Hudson Adams

As Sanders supporters we have to remember this. That being said I don't think it's self-delusional to say that Bernie can win over superdelegates. He won over two recently in Oregon.

May 20, 2016 - 14:02

Andrew Rodriguez

prolly the last hay wagon i'll ever own.

May 20, 2016 - 14:02

Christopher Moore

american politics

May 20, 2016 - 14:04

Jayden Cox

what?

May 20, 2016 - 14:04

Brandon Sanchez

I'm saying in Memelish that I have no idea how that relates to American politics.

May 20, 2016 - 14:05

Joseph Morales

Daily reminder that Trump would just be Dubya 2.0. We'd have another 2001-2009 stretch. If America was "great" back then to you then go for it, vote for him.

May 20, 2016 - 14:07

Hunter Hill

how is that merican?

May 20, 2016 - 14:10

Liam Green

r u ok

May 20, 2016 - 14:12

Sebastian Allen

lol the wagon
made by ertl.co. usa
dyersville iowa

May 20, 2016 - 14:17

Colton Young

I was referring to Hillary deluding herself, but this is also true.

May 20, 2016 - 14:19

Levi Thompson

self-delusional to say that Bernie can win over superdelegates

aren't they mostly lobbyist?

May 20, 2016 - 14:22

Angel Phillips

...

May 20, 2016 - 14:30

Leo Rivera

?

May 20, 2016 - 14:43

Joshua Allen

...

May 20, 2016 - 14:44

Connor Rodriguez

we lost our farm. ok?

May 20, 2016 - 14:45

Adam Powell

Not ok.

May 20, 2016 - 14:45

Jacob White

...

May 20, 2016 - 15:09

Joshua Thomas

So Demos just fired Matt Bruenig. Unbelievable.

May 20, 2016 - 15:12

Carson Collins

she has the right idea

May 20, 2016 - 15:19

Isaiah Jenkins

who he?

May 20, 2016 - 15:32

Angel Butler

Which Hillary Hack did he piss off?

May 20, 2016 - 15:33

Jace Campbell

It really depends if they're smart enough to realize what's at stake. Bernie has thousands of young voters and independents carrying him, voters they will need to crush Trump and retake the Senate.

Do they really want to risk alienating them for Hillary, who will most assuredly give them a harder election, or do they want to ride with them to victory? Do they choose pride or do they choose logic?

May 20, 2016 - 15:35

Gabriel Jones

Didn't mean to offend. Just seems a weird way to determine the freshness of food. Might as well consult the fruit spirits.

May 20, 2016 - 15:36

Jack Powell

I don't care about your weeb semen demons and neither does your demagogue.

May 20, 2016 - 15:41

Zachary Bailey

Neera Tanden and Joan Walsh

May 20, 2016 - 15:43

Henry Hall

...

May 20, 2016 - 15:47

Jaxson James

Did you guys see this yet?
youtube.com/watch?v=zmEebG2cTh8&list=PLp_r3n4tzIqhgsxn0ZKY9x0QtfoCMoh9T&index=4

May 20, 2016 - 15:56

Alexander Lopez

haaretz.com/world-news/u-s-election-2016/1.720720
Sanders to demand changes in Democrats' Israel policy

May 20, 2016 - 16:15

Charles Thomas

He's taking off his mask

And in the process forcing the Clintonite Third Way to do the same

May 20, 2016 - 16:23

Daniel Wilson

nigger I made that cap

May 20, 2016 - 16:28

Xavier Ortiz

can someone make a thread about this? it needs an informative OP. it really is fucking disgusting, hillary shills are getting people fired now for disagreeing. reminds me of gamergate

May 20, 2016 - 16:28

Nolan Baker

this is why we have the general election thread

read OP

May 20, 2016 - 16:30

Jacob Campbell

hey autist, bruenig getting fired isn't american elections. and the rules are looser on election threads now anyway.

May 20, 2016 - 16:34

Camden Evans

its a longshot but hes trying. no other option really at this point

May 20, 2016 - 16:54

Ian Ross

...

May 20, 2016 - 17:03

Julian Martin

Welcome their hatred comrade

It only shows where the battle lines have been drawn

May 20, 2016 - 17:18

Jaxon Sanchez

I don't even know who bruenig is you self-centered moron.

May 20, 2016 - 17:32

Aaron Perez

The way i sees it, berntards have two hopes, Hillary gets thrown in prison for that fbi stuff (not going to happen) or they vote for trump in an accelerationist fuck everything move and exploit the failure of Hillary to purge the DNC of clinton democrats.

Both you an i know, lefty pol, you know those are the only options left.

May 20, 2016 - 17:34

Zachary Hall

ep. 2 is really good. I should've probably posted that one instead.

May 20, 2016 - 17:40

Nicholas Rogers

You can call Trump a dishonest waffler whose campaign promises probably can't be trusted, but you can't say his putative positions on the big issues are comparable.

Even if he proves, as I suspect, to be nothing special on the issues, he would certainly be the most direct attack on PC (the force strangling genuine leftism to death since the 1970s) we've had in mainstream politics for decades. Critical studies departments are finally being defunded in Japan and across Eastern Europe right now, so cross your fingers.

There is one other option: PRESS CHARGES! Or at least threaten to, so as to cause recounts in obviously fraudulent primary elections.

I mean, why would corporate shills like the DNC meme delegates be worried about losing to another group of corporate shills if the alternative is a socialist like Sanders?

May 20, 2016 - 17:46

Justin Wood

Trump is a dishonest waffler whose campaign promises can't be trusted. What he says means nothing more than what Clinton says. He will be Dubya 2.0.

May 20, 2016 - 17:48

Dominic Foster

...

May 20, 2016 - 17:49

Lucas Torres

The sole reason we were rooting for Sanders is because he would help push the Overton window away from neoliberalism.

Since he's out of the game, fuck the election in general. That would be our default response.

He would be so thoroughly incompetent that society would return to its early nineties view of political correctness: "I guess it's not so bad."

May 20, 2016 - 17:54

Joseph Cruz

That's going to happen regardless if Trump is elected or not. Bernie may fall, but his movement cannot, and will not, be stopped.

Really, that's the true course of action: Ignore presidential election, focus on the down ticket. For example, Chair of the DNC, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, is up for re-election in Florida and she has a primary challenger sympathetic to Bernie's supporters.

May 20, 2016 - 18:15

Ian Nguyen

It's not that I don't agree with your assertion that PC is probably our biggest problem and Trump could unintentionally strike a blow in that direction for us.

But universities are one of the few places in society where leftism has anything approaching what you might call hegemony even if it has to be boxed up in liberal PC to keep them from doing political witchhunts.

The whole STEMlord vs. liberal arts maymay got old a long time ago. It's not that I think leftists should be anti-science like post-modern idealists or shouldn't go into science, but people need to be encouraging to critically engage with culture and history–not just run the machines. That's exactly what the bourgeoisie wants though and they attack liberal arts as an unnecessary luxury for workers and progressive students.

Like the whole "don't go into art history" meme, shouldn't it be obvious that being able to evaluate and understand thousands of years of culture, aesthetics, and critical tradition is a boon for society? It's hardly a field that you can go through without doing real work and critical thought.

A traditional liberal arts education includes scientific studies that aren't applied science like biology, mathematics, physics etc. We have a lot of STEM types where the education has been so dumbed down to meet the needs of corporations that they don't even understand the philosophy of science.

Maybe Gramsci was right and Mao was wrong: the working class really does need to understand elite education fields like liberal arts and not employment training. Mao used to say: red+expert was the way to go forward with educating the workers and peasants.

Maybe that's why the Cultural Revolution failed, because when the people did not comprehend the culture, history and true meaning of the ideological battles they were reduced to sloganeering and call out culture. Then it degenerated into a technocratic neoliberal capitalism when people started to tire of it and the leftist minority was repressed

I don't think its a coincidence that right-wing governments are the ones doing this. But it maybe a sign of an intensifying class struggle as well.

May 20, 2016 - 18:17

Angel Bailey

KAREEM JUST ENDORSED CLINTON :(
twitter.com/DougHenwood/status/733806706723934208

She campaigned ridiculously hard in Kentucky. It failed.She obviously thinks she has it. The DNC are going to underestimate Bernie just like Trump.

May 20, 2016 - 18:20

Adrian Smith

What's that tweet say?
Can't check Twitter while I'm at work

May 20, 2016 - 18:23

Hudson Martinez

The only thing allowing PC to persist among normalfags, as opposed to the tiny core of Kool-Aid drinkers, is that its true level of insanity is mostly hidden from open view or scrutiny. Do you really think that, under Trump, they would be able to restrain themselves (or their most dogged critics) from going full McCintosh?

I don't think the "leftism" that exists inside the humanities is worth saving anymore. Especially since, in spite of what Tumblrinas might say, STEMlords are themselves overwhelmingly leftist. Really, the only fields where rightism dominates in academia are fields that have become nearly as phony as the "leftist" humanities, like economics and political science. The left has nothing to lose, politically, by favoring materialism.

I agree a rounded education in the humanities and the sciences regardless of one's intended career focus would be ideal, but humanities departments as they exist now have totally ceased to teach anything about their fields, instead censoring all truth in favor of blatant indoctrination. This is made even worse by the fact that the PoMo ideology they favor is explicitly anti-intellectual, anti-rational, anti-objective, anti-scientific, and ultimately anti-academic.

The only possible way to save it would be to shut down everything, fire everyone, trash all literature, and start over.

May 20, 2016 - 18:26

Robert Cox

archive.is/U5WP3

May 20, 2016 - 18:28

Ethan Walker

Holy, shit. This is reactionary misanthropism at its best.

May 20, 2016 - 18:42

Caleb Hill

Who gives a shit?
if not liberals, It'll just be someone else.
Did people forget christian conservatives exist?

May 20, 2016 - 18:49

David Kelly

>>These days, intellectuals don’t have a very good "press". I believe I can employ that word in a rather precise sense. This is not the moment to say that one is not an intellectual; besides, I would just provoke a smile. I am an intellectual. If I were asked for my conception of what I do, the strategist being the man who says, "What difference does a particular death, a particular cry, a particular revolt make compared to the great general necessity, and, on the other hand, what difference does a general principle make in the particular situation where we are?", well, I would have to say that it is immaterial to me whether the strategist is a politician, a historian, a revolutionary, a follower of the shah or of the ayatollah; my theoretical ethic is opposite to theirs. It is "antistrategic": to be respectful when a singularity 'revolts, intransigent as soon as power violates the universal. A simple choice, a difficult job: for one must at the same time look closely, a bit beneath history, at what cleaves it and stirs it, and keep watch, a bit behind politics, over what must unconditionally limit it. After all, that is my work; I am not the first or the only one to do it. But that is what I chose.'

May 20, 2016 - 18:51

Michael Price

I thought he knew better ;-;

May 20, 2016 - 18:53

Isaiah Wright

the user is a stealth Holla Forums

May 20, 2016 - 18:55

Charles Wood

It would hardly be the first time a field of study became so rotten with pseudoscience that everything associated with its past incarnation had to be destroyed and permanently blackballed for it to become worthy of existence:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flexner_Report

May 20, 2016 - 18:56

Andrew Powell

That seems to trend. Liberals and the right have been taking turns throughout history.

How the fuck did I imply that?

May 20, 2016 - 19:13

Michael Ortiz

Do you read what you type?

The most sympathetic interpretation I can get out of that is "regardless of intellectualism's rise or fall, the leftist and rightist flavors of it alternate dominance among anti-intellectuals." But, even that would still render what you initially said in completely irrelevant to the "Would Trump unintentionally purging the left of its pseudointellectual poison be a good thing?" question.

May 20, 2016 - 19:27

Josiah Thomas

I wish that was true but in my experience they tend to be liberal, conservative or libertarian. It seems many of them only handle data not argument or don't check the method used to collect that data if the source seems prestigious enough. So if a Heritage foundation or UN report says capitalism is making everyone rich, they usually believe it, even if there are qualitative differences between the lowest sector of the proletariat and traditional substance farming that is hard to capture. Or, as is often the case they don't understand the global poverty line of two dollars a day is completely arbitrary and is often not adjusted to keep its valuations up with inflation.

I see STEMfags only getting more leftist as they get older and find out that not everything in their chosen field was as groovy as they thought it would be. When their in school their practically young republicans; there's a reason why the computer nerd vs. jock movies are reactionary and widespread in popular culture.

Your supporting the crushing of a student demographic where maybe 1 in 15 are genuinely leftist to one where its more like one its probably more like 1 in 30 or higher.

It's pretty obvious that this is also a move to stem the decline of Western or Western-allied capitalism as China has just moved into the number two spot of high-quality science.

were you actually a humanities student or is that just what you think? Maybe everyone would like us to read shakespeare and less post-modern garbage; I'd personally like it. But normies never study the classics either and just chuckle away at their vidya and comic book movies, so its a false complaint in my eyes.

I at least had the freedom to study Marxism while I was in school and my professors didn't try to object to it or call it a politicization of the field. It would take some very persistent and brave students to push Marxism in many of these STEM departments.

With all the hate for the liberal arts field in popular culture, you'd think you'd have more STEMfags but more people are going into Business and Management. Those aren't even subjects, their just pure porky ideology.

Have you considered that they may crush liberal arts and not really replace it with anything useful? They might not even increase STEM funding, it might be all business and management.

As far as their concerned probably too many people are going to school and expecting too much when they get out. They'd probably like it if fewer working class people went to school, and fewer people went in general, so they don't have to deal with activism (as shitty as it maybe).

May 20, 2016 - 19:33

Brayden Brown

I got it before you explained it. Must have a lot of city folk here, lmao.

Really sorry man. That's a way of life you're having to change now; not ok.

Elaborate if you want? Just too expensive to run anymore? Wage inequality that bad in Canada, too? Or some company force you & others out?

May 20, 2016 - 19:52

Christopher Williams

Lol, bern.

May 20, 2016 - 20:32

Ryan Foster

I hate that I'm on the other side of the world now & the traffic here comes mainly when I'm sleeping

May 20, 2016 - 20:34

Camden Mitchell

Leaving anecdotes aside (every scientist, engineer, or other technical person I've ever met has been leftist to some extent, many radically so), it's a longstanding and unambiguous statistical fact:
people-press.org/2009/07/09/section-4-scientists-politics-and-religion/

Really, it's not that surprising. Why else would science, tech, computing, genre fiction, gaming, weaboos, secularism, and every other stereotypically geeky field of human endeavor (including the humanities themselves, before they were corrupted) have rolled over like a rug for PC bullying?

Me personally? No, but aside from the fact that every paper I have ever read from a postmodern critical studies journal of any kind has been vacuous puff wrapped in pedantry, I have a close relative studying in the arts, who has described every single class that isn't strictly technical to her art as 110% IdPol garbage, and every single instructor or enthusiastic student in those classes as completely insufferable.

I don't think ideologies should be studied in isolation as a legitimate academic activity, period. It's like pro sports or prostitution, it harms both the legitimacy of the institutions which fund it, and the purity of the things themselves. Studying Marxism would be great as an inclusion in a neutral class about all historically important ideologies in politics or economics, but not as a thinly-veiled brainwashing session.

In the meantime, and speaking as a radical AnCom myself, I would much rather have tens of millions of intellectually sound mid-left socdems, than tens of thousands of deluded radical post-Marxist SJWs.

I assume you aren't literally talking about MBAs, which are worthless, but the "brain drain" caused by parasitic but intellectually demanding "jobs" like financial analysts and investment bankers. That is a separate problem caused by economic demand (high pay) in private industry, not the supply offered by academia.

As for the possibility of the humanities being destroyed without replacement? Like I said before, I really wish the humanities would be revived, but in their current form, they are an utter blight on the academy, and their obliteration would be far preferable to allowing continued pollution of the leftist consciousness.

And they would be right. I think the average Joe or Jane should go through a well-rounded higher education, sure. But what's missing is some guarantee that immediately on enrolling, you will be placed into a paying apprenticeship throughout and beyond your period of study for at least one profession that you can make a legitimate career out of.

May 20, 2016 - 20:43

Carson Flores

Well that's certainly not what most Puerto Ricans made clear in the last referendum.

May 20, 2016 - 20:47

Owen Rodriguez

How about you get off your lazy worthless hardlining ass and vote on one of the several third party socialists running this elections.

May 20, 2016 - 21:36

Kayden Harris

youtube.com/watch?v=_EdXuazXKBA

kek, what do you guys think of this

May 20, 2016 - 21:46

Logan Rodriguez

ftfy
Intellectualism wasn't the point, fam.

How?
Christian conservatives are one variant of the right that used very similar tactics for years. If you think I'm implying they are the only variant of the right that has done that, then you're mistaken.
Honestly, you're starting to sound triggered or something because I used certain christians as an example, when that wasn't even the point.

He wouldn't, and there's zero evidence that he would. Liberals thrive on divisions based on identity instead of attacking structures that actually create their problems. It goes deeper than simply feminism, SJWs, or whatever.
The best you can do is make it go underground for a short period of time.

May 20, 2016 - 21:57

Ayden Gonzalez

Lmao. What madness. Realest nigga alive. :^)

A former prostitute as first lady would be a first, too.

May 20, 2016 - 22:06

Tyler Torres

Why does he feel the need to be so edgy and psuedointellectual.

May 20, 2016 - 22:16

Chase Stewart

Why is the cartel after him?

May 20, 2016 - 22:16

Easton Allen

Yeah, fundies are far from the only flavor of rightist kookiness. There's plenty of others, like Ayncraps, but the fundies are the most popular by far.

Anyway, either you admit that PC can be curbed, in which case it's worth attempting (particularly with the left in such a dire state because of PC co-option); or you throw up your hands at any political effort outside the revolution that can't be done by an IdPol-mesmerized vanguard.

May 20, 2016 - 22:37

Joseph Scott

Oh lol is this for real?

And this guy really is the one behind that shitty intrusive antivirus program?

May 20, 2016 - 22:43

Justin Rogers

Never underestimate a sociopath.
This was true before, but now they're still open to conversion at best. The lolbert fad spread like wildfire on meth.

Jill Stein panders to hippies and the rest of the left parties barely even exist.

May 20, 2016 - 23:03

Sebastian Foster

That's a bit of a false dichotomy.
I think liberal pc culture can be curbed, but pc itself probably can't. Some other form of it will fill the gap liberals leave, and it will probably be from the right. I also don't see any reason why donald trump is the one to kill it. If we can make our ideas the norm, then maybe we can transcend it.

May 20, 2016 - 23:04

Cameron Cruz

archive.is/Rz09W
Sorry, Bernie: I love you, but this is over — and getting embarrassing

May 20, 2016 - 23:04

Logan Taylor

The problem with this discussion is the implication that political correctness is a recent invention, which is a red baiting myth by Reagan-era neoconservatives.

All "political correctness" refers to is controlling dialogue for ideological purposes. Shit is everywhere.

May 20, 2016 - 23:08

Adam Flores

jesus thats hard to read

May 20, 2016 - 23:09

Cameron Green

Sounds like it would be someone like him, lol. Yeah, it's him.

May 20, 2016 - 23:28

Joshua Jones

So wait, is the Belize government really trying to kill him, or not?

May 20, 2016 - 23:32

Levi Ward

You'd think if it was over, they wouldn't be putting so much effort into these attacks.

>I really do
We see too many of these. Most end up being lobbyists or downright unapologetic Hillary supporters who pen them. If this guy actually was a Bernie supporter, he's sold out. That's his problem, not ours.

Muh party unity, guys. Don't let the door hit you on the way out. Non-principle having POS.

May 20, 2016 - 23:35

Lucas Perez

...

May 20, 2016 - 23:36

Isaiah Bell

A Bernie supporter wouldn't use Nevada as an attack.

May 20, 2016 - 23:37

Camden Flores

Never change, Holla Forums

May 20, 2016 - 23:39

Brody Rodriguez

It seems McAfee is wanted for murder there.

May 20, 2016 - 23:54

Adam Murphy

Yeah nothing in that guys post indicates Holla Forums. Fuck off reddit.
>>>/reddit/

May 20, 2016 - 23:59

Joseph Hall

different guy but did you even read the post?>>693223

May 21, 2016 - 00:00

Chase Butler

...

May 21, 2016 - 00:00

Austin Gomez

And of course there's indicators, like what I pointed out. Calm down.

May 21, 2016 - 00:41

Jonathan Lopez

Picking out gays, attributing that one aspect to "stupid liberals". Seems understandable to me.

May 21, 2016 - 00:42

Thomas Gutierrez

Neoliberals might be more fitting. They play into idpol for advantage.

May 21, 2016 - 00:45

Christian Torres

No, PC, as originally coined by leftists against realpoliticking Leninists in the early days of communism, is deferral to the political establishment against the principles supposedly embodied by it, for the purpose of protecting and currying political favor.

And what this conversation is about, I think, is less PC in general, and more the ascendancy of (mostly social and identitarian) hot-button nonissues above (mostly material and economic) issues that actually effect peoples' lives in political debate.

Already taken, "neoliberal" refers to freeters and Ayncraps.

May 21, 2016 - 01:04

Nathan Thomas

Political correctness is a little different: it's meant to prevent people from discussing things at all, even in compassionate ways. Liberals being the feelings police are not expressing their own views as much as they are trying to shut down speech so the status quo can continue unimpeded.

There are people who think South Park is racist, for example, even though the show's creators are vehement critics of racism.

May 21, 2016 - 01:15

Jose Martin

Explain to a dummy what these terms mean? Ayn as in Rand, I guess.

May 21, 2016 - 01:26

Andrew Martin

I kinda' think they don't just do it to preserve the status quo, since many of them are too small-potatoes to benefit from that, though the people big enough to benefit from the status quo encourage them for that reason. I think the reason most midlevel PC weenies do it is for their own personal benefit, by vacuously virtue signaling for PC points.

Free trade advocates, and (Ayn Rand-inspired) anarcho-capitalists. In other words, open borders, unrestricted trade, unregulated industry, small weak government.

May 21, 2016 - 01:49

Hudson Butler

The only thing that indicacted as that you're a probably a redditer if you think anything in his post indicated that he was from Holla Forums. What next are you gonna call someone a homophobe for using fag on an imageboard. The example he gave was entirely appropriate.

May 21, 2016 - 01:51

Angel Cook

This social cred is how they benefit though. They are usually well off and lack experience with hardship.

May 21, 2016 - 01:55

Joshua Cooper

Ah, thanks user.

May 21, 2016 - 02:20

Aaron Brooks

le reddit meme. Don't overuse it.

Lmao.

May 21, 2016 - 02:23

Hunter Richardson

Trump really has no idea the kind of people meme-magiking him to office does he?

May 21, 2016 - 02:42

Jason Ortiz

Hillary has run a dishonest, condescending attack campaign constantly informed by the distraction of identity politics and characterized by straw men, false flags, and outright lies.

May 21, 2016 - 04:18

Lucas Diaz

What are you, some sort of mass organist?

May 21, 2016 - 04:36

Asher Powell

Is this a word filter for woman hater?

May 21, 2016 - 06:17

Jayden Wilson

Ha, I guess not. It has its own apparently. :)

May 21, 2016 - 06:18

Isaac Reyes

But your chart doesn't show that at all. All it shows is that there is a correlation between (support for) Trump and (people being) dicks.

May 21, 2016 - 06:21

Nolan Ward

Hmm…

May 21, 2016 - 06:28

Julian Harris

None of that shit is helping the poor or the middle class. It's just meaningless "feel good" crap.

May 21, 2016 - 06:57

Owen Russell

Honestly this is how I feel about the bathroom crap going on in some states right now. They keep people occupied with that trivial bullshit while we have actual issues to worry about which aren't being addressed.

If I were transgender, I'd use the regular bathrooms, and speak out about how this is just a distraction. Bathroom preference or slave wage labor - which is more pressing?

May 21, 2016 - 07:09

Thomas Mitchell

Why not both? Why are these things posed as mutually exclusive? The answer to this question seems to reveal more about the answerer than it does the answer.

May 21, 2016 - 07:14

Nolan Gray

My point is one issue is much bigger, more pressing & important. Or is this a shitpost?

May 21, 2016 - 07:16

Eli Baker

Why even ask.

May 21, 2016 - 07:17

Caleb Murphy

Bathrooms shouldn't discriminate period. The only reason we even have gendered bathrooms in the first place is because women demanded them. We gave in then and it was a mistake.

May 21, 2016 - 07:23

Jack Adams

I realized that defeated the purpose after I posted.

May 21, 2016 - 07:23

James Long

I know what your point was. I'm asking you "why not both?" because…

Seems to be implying that transgendered people don't already conform to regular society for fear of being labeled a sexual miscreant and a harasser.

So, please answer the question:

Why not both?

May 21, 2016 - 07:24

Daniel Murphy

ಠ_ಠ

May 21, 2016 - 07:26

Justin Brown

Holla Forums ought to be named /socialistpol/ so that we can discourage freedom of expression

May 21, 2016 - 07:27

Sebastian Kelly

You've never set foot in a humanities department.

May 21, 2016 - 08:41

Christopher Russell

...

May 21, 2016 - 08:42

Jackson Howard

The authors twitter feed is pure cancer
also, he apparently used to be a lolbert and was a Ron Paul delegate in '08, so its not really surprising

May 21, 2016 - 08:53

David Garcia

They directly attack objectivity, science, and reason as inherently europhalloheterociswhatevercentric institutions that must be torn down. They're like a virus converting cells within the academy into propagators of its own destruction, having no value nor place within it.

May 21, 2016 - 12:26

Lucas Moore

Albert Einstein was a fan of Sanic.

May 21, 2016 - 12:35

Parker Moore

Is e=mc2 a sexed question?

May 21, 2016 - 12:36

Michael James

Figgzed.

May 21, 2016 - 12:37

Gabriel Fisher

You're full of shit then.

Pomo/crittheory is 10% of what is taught at liberal arts schools. Did you forget the other 6000 years of humanities readings you have to get through first?

You only find super strong pomo in classes set up to teach pomo. Even most women's studies classes at decent universities have you read smith and Wollstonecraft first.

May 21, 2016 - 12:50

Jack Foster

twitter.com/joanwalsh/status/733353687284916224

Thoughts?

May 21, 2016 - 12:56

Carter Torres

there are literally black and brown people in the background of the pic she used.

I told you bout them white women leftypol

May 21, 2016 - 13:05

Jacob Ramirez

none detected

May 21, 2016 - 13:09

Leo Sanders

...

May 21, 2016 - 13:14

Samuel Kelly

The ones treated like old Looney Tunes, either swathed in "critique" and "commentary" about how excellent they are before you're allowed to see them, or simply outright banned as primary texts, leaving nothing but heaps of said 3rd-hand blather and maybe a few out-of-context quotes?

What happened to The Nation? First Daily Kos and AlterNet, then NPR, and now this.

May 21, 2016 - 13:15

Hudson Gutierrez

Again, you have very obviously never set foot in a humanities department. You are regurgitating memes spread by Holla Forums to discredit all those who disagree with them.

May 21, 2016 - 13:24

Brody Morris

And that's not even all of them. I have basically removed all of my bookmarked news sources during this primary, because not one of them wasn't engaging in pro-Clinton propaganda.

May 21, 2016 - 13:26

Dominic Price

...

May 21, 2016 - 13:27

Robert Moore

I've just resorted to sipping right off wire services like AP and Reuters, though even that has a lot of idpol fluff cluttering it.

May 21, 2016 - 13:30

Wyatt Gutierrez

She got blown the fuck out by Bruenig, which was pretty good.

May 21, 2016 - 13:30

Luke Foster

Epic meme dude
Feel free to fuck off

May 21, 2016 - 13:32

Nolan Smith

...

May 21, 2016 - 13:35

Aiden Anderson

I think even they propagated the lie about the violence about the Nevada convention though, didn't they?

May 21, 2016 - 13:38

Joseph Diaz

Yup.
bigstory.ap.org/article/131ea921d2a74a60ada40307b79c735c/nevada-democrats-sanders-campaign-has-violent-streak

reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-final-idUSKCN0Y915Q
"More Democrats urged Sanders on Wednesday to take a stronger stand against his supporters' uprising in Nevada over the delegate selection process. They said he did not go far enough in condemning the unrest, which included a thrown chair, yelling and threats to convention leaders."

Reuters seems only slightly more tolerable, but both are shit for reporting falsities like this.

May 21, 2016 - 13:52

Jeremiah Jackson

Are you from Holla Forums?

I actually went to a liberals arts college. I read more plato than all the pomo put together.

May 21, 2016 - 13:57

Jaxon Sanchez

You're arguing that I can't argue with you unless I donate money (just my own or the taxpayers' in general) to the cult, attend their sermons, participate in their masses, and buy their sacred liturgy.

Yeah:
reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-final-idUSKCN0Y915Q

Also, from the same search engine results:
motherjones.com/politics/2016/05/bernie-sanders-nevada-convention-death-threats

Noooo! Is nothing safe!?

May 21, 2016 - 13:59

Dylan Sanders

In fact classes with pomo had prerequisites that required you to have at least a year of other philosophy under your belt.

May 21, 2016 - 14:00

Elijah Thomas

Albers,
Interaction of Color
Alberti,
On Painting
Balzac, “Unk
nown Masterpiece”
Cooper,
Learning to Listen
Kafka, “A Hunger Artist”
Ovid,
Metamorphosis
Plato, “Ion”
Taylor,
Learning to Look
Vasari,
Lives of the Artists
Art by Cézanne, Picasso, da Vinci and others
Music by Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, and other

Norton Anthology of Poetry
Homer,
Odyssey
Sophocles,
Oedipus Rex, Antigone
Aristotle,
Poetics
Shakespeare,
Hamlet
Dostoevsky,
Brothers Karamazov
O’Connor, short stories
Beckett,
Waiting for Godo

copy paste from the catalog

May 21, 2016 - 14:02

Jayden Lee

this is the humanities 1 and 2 reading lists.

May 21, 2016 - 14:03

Matthew Williams

read a book Holla Forumsyp

May 21, 2016 - 14:03

Michael Wright

Not him, but I'm just happy to know they still teach philosophy in college. I never went, so I wouldn't know.

What about high school(in US)? Do they still teach philosophy or make you read classics? I didn't finish high school either. I would've graduated in '05. My sister finished, but I don't remember her reading too much. Math was her thing.

Yeah, MotherJones has been extremely rough on Bernie during the elections. Very disappointing.

May 21, 2016 - 14:05

Henry James

Yes. Mostly just basic stuff. Plato.

Me neither comrade.

May 21, 2016 - 14:07

Anthony Cox

The truest, purest proletariat

May 21, 2016 - 14:10

Nicholas Martin

Very good to know they do.

You didn't finish high school? Got your GED, then? I did as well, but as far as jobs go, it's not really worth the paper it's printed on.

I take that as a compliment. :)

I dropped out of HS during my second year of ninth grade, actually. Times were rough. Many people say they wouldn't change the experiences they went through because of what it made them. I say I'd like to change some of them, lmao, but it did make me stronger & realize just how fucked our government was while very young.

May 21, 2016 - 14:17

Levi Sullivan

It was meant as one.

May 21, 2016 - 14:24

William Thomas

Cool :)

May 21, 2016 - 14:33

Jeremiah Miller

yep at 22. Doesn't matter though because I manage 20 or so people with bachelors

May 21, 2016 - 14:40

Jaxon Garcia

...

May 21, 2016 - 14:44

Justin Cruz

Rock on, user!

May 21, 2016 - 14:45

Chase Barnes

Plato was obviously a proto-SJW you fucking CUCK

May 21, 2016 - 14:45

Dylan Torres

It really irks me how that WEBM ends before the line in the song finishes

May 21, 2016 - 14:47

Cooper Wood

Check your cave muh privilege!

May 21, 2016 - 14:49

Dominic Wilson

no bully pls ;_;

May 21, 2016 - 14:50

Owen Martinez

...

May 21, 2016 - 14:58

Grayson Price

He's too badass to let the verse finish.

But this guy is exponentially cooler. He just goes with the flow.

May 21, 2016 - 14:59

Eli Price

What's wrong with any of that?

or is that the point?

May 21, 2016 - 15:00

Tyler Davis

The fedoraflag believes that liberal arts is 100% sjw central and need to be purged from the american educational system.

May 21, 2016 - 15:02

Hudson Torres

Ah, right, I kind skimmed over that really gay argument, so thanks.

May 21, 2016 - 15:04

Nolan Harris

No prob comrade. I believe very strongly in a liberal arts education. It is a shame that alt-right arguments are so common on here.

May 21, 2016 - 15:05

Mason Campbell

Exactly. The corporate media continues to push non-news and sensationalism; distractions from reality.

Sorry you had to witness all of that, user..

May 21, 2016 - 15:10

Jose Richardson

I think he was referring to a hypothetical journalist, not himself

May 21, 2016 - 16:18

Dylan Rivera

Oh.. that would explain the human flesh bit

May 21, 2016 - 16:35

Jayden Collins

youtube.com/watch?v=MK4myOpw6jY

Hurry up already

May 21, 2016 - 16:44

Nolan Cooper

What are the chances we'll ever see Hillary's transcripts?

May 21, 2016 - 17:44

Logan Cruz

About the same chance of seeing Romney's tax returns.

May 21, 2016 - 17:46

Luis Thompson

she's looking into it you impatient shitIord

May 21, 2016 - 18:41

Sebastian Fisher

iwilllookintoit.com/

May 21, 2016 - 18:51

Jose Ward

Looks like the DNC are going to human sacrifice Debbie Wasserman Schultz to try and stop the bernie revolt

washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/05/19/liberal-pundits-blame-debbie-wasserman-schultz-not-bernie-sanders-for-democrats-division/

May 21, 2016 - 20:41

Ryan Sanchez

No way it has anything to do with policy disagreement. No no, the problem is with Debbie, it's not systematic.

May 22, 2016 - 00:19

Blake Lopez

Someone link this shithead this Jacobin article.

jacobinmag.com/2016/05/white-workers-bernie-sanders-clinton-primary-racism/

May 22, 2016 - 01:53

Brayden Bell

>even Reuters gets this wrong
Are there no heroes left in journalism?

May 22, 2016 - 01:54

William Price

And wholly unsurprising. It's a feminist clickbait rag, the fuck were you expecting?

May 22, 2016 - 01:55

Benjamin Sullivan

It seems that way, I just don't think it was always like that, which is what I meant. I remember when they broke that Romney hidden video a while back, so I figured maybe they cared about journalism. Obviously not anymore.

May 22, 2016 - 02:51

Jose Richardson

She'll be their fall-woman until the heat dies down then either quietly reabsorb her into the party apparatus or she'll get a cushy job in some affiliated organization/corporation as she lives out her party-arranged mea culpa.

May 22, 2016 - 03:44

Gavin Martinez

Debbie Wasserman Schultz from almost exactly a year go:

youtube.com/watch?v=uHS2B2Urdpo

A great contrast to how she's talking, now. You can really tell how nervous the establishment is, from this.

May 22, 2016 - 04:40

Luis Carter

richardcharnin.wordpress.com/2016/05/19/the-democratic-primaries-no-more-exit-polls-kentucky-and-oregon-recap/

Richard Charnin
May 19, 2016

12 of 26 exit polls exceeded the margin of error, 11 for Sanders.
The probability is 1 in 8.3 billion.

24 of 26 exit polls shifted to Clinton in the vote.
The probability is 1 in 190,000.

THE FRAUDULENT KENTUCKY PRIMARY

CUMULATIVE VOTE SHARES- JEFFERSON COUNTY

P =1 in 6.7 billion if we assume a 2% MoE in a poll of 90,000 respondents
P= 1.49E-10= normdist (0.559,0.633,0.02/1.96,false) .

OREGON

May 22, 2016 - 10:09

Logan Scott

...

May 22, 2016 - 10:11

Colton Ward

DEMOCRACY
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May 22, 2016 - 10:15

Blake Scott

Riot in Philly. I wish I were back at home, I'd be there. The media won't cover any of these discrepancies(to put it lightly) or even the fact they suspended exit polling in those 3 recent states, including my own(KY).

I checked Facebook for the first time in months, the day before, of & after our election. I wanted to get an idea of how people were voting. I have democrat, independent & republican friends/family. Sanders was the clear favorite. Even older friends who value party unity were for Sanders. It doesn't add up, either. I know it's anecdotal, but it counts for something.

May 22, 2016 - 12:33

Charles Robinson

Wait, what, really?

May 22, 2016 - 12:52

Camden Howard

No, no. I mean during the Dem convention, we should riot. my bad

May 22, 2016 - 12:59

Wyatt Sanders

Any anons want to meet up in Philly July 25-27 for a big summertime bash? We're gonna party like it's 1968!

Don't forget to bring cocktails!

May 22, 2016 - 13:03

Jackson Clark

Nah, it's cool, I just hadn't heard anything like that and with the current media atmosphere it wouldn't surprise me if there had been riots that went completely unreported. Thanks for the clarification though.

We should roast some pigs and make it a real luau :^D

May 22, 2016 - 13:07

Juan Cox

Damn it, user, don't make me feel worse for not being able to be there! DDD:

That's really a great idea. I'll remember to bring it up again later in this thread, just in case, when the time gets close. We'll probably devote a thread just for that. I'm guessing you could get a good amount of people from here to join you.

Also, you could check in at reddit, maybe, on SanderforPresident. There's likely going to be a get together with them, I'm sure. It would be wise of them! Just in case you can't find enough here that would be in the Philly area or traveling there. Holla Forums only would be nicer, I think tho

May 22, 2016 - 13:15

Ryder Morgan

every fucking Shilizza article's comment section is like this. every single one. please fucking kill me
washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/05/22/bernie-sanders-just-declared-war-on-the-democratic-establishment/
On the bright side, I think the shill operation is being wound down. Less rabidly negative articles are appearing and comment section shilling is restricted to the Bezos-owned Washington Post (and Bezos is friends with Hillary). Hell, he even got their entire editorial board to shit on him in an article published in January.

May 22, 2016 - 13:19

Liam Lopez

Hopefully we won't have to go to the convention and demonstrate because Hillary will be indicted by then, it's clear that the FBI is waiting for the voting to conclude, they said they were wrapping up the investigation like a month ago.

Failing that, I can't go, I'll be in a summer program. SandersForPresident is already talking about it and has already gotten tens of thousands of people to commit to being there. They're calling it the Million Man March. If we break 600,000 it'd be the largest protest in US history. 1968 only had about a couple thousand, I think.

May 22, 2016 - 13:27

Logan Wilson

While part of that was just me trying to be funny I definitely need to get off from work and head down there. Fuck these Clintonite bastards.

May 22, 2016 - 13:30

David Ramirez

I just realised that Trump is a real-life tripfag:

May 22, 2016 - 13:30

Dylan Martin

Donald Trump is a human meme

May 22, 2016 - 13:35

Ryder Cook

Reminder that we could have information regarding the investigation

AS EARLY AS TOMORROW

I need to find the mango that second girl is from cuz damn

May 22, 2016 - 13:35

Ryan Price

That's not the criminal case (there isn't one yet), that's the Judicial Watch civil case. Judicial Watch seems to have a bit of conservative bias but they're a fairly solid organization. Even if the DOJ rejects the FBI's recommendation (or the FBI doesn't recommend) this case could put a huge dent in her ahead of the convention. I have faith in them to bring Hillary to justice, bonus points if the DOJ decides to as well.

I'm offended.

May 22, 2016 - 13:41

Luke Allen

Sanders says he's backing DNC chair's primary opponent, wouldn't reappoint her to DNC

cnn.com/2016/05/21/politics/bernie-sanders-debbie-wasserman-schultz/
archive.is/YezR3

TIME FOR GULAG.

May 22, 2016 - 13:46

Nicholas Mitchell

Do you really? When has anyone in the executive branch ever been brought to justice?

May 22, 2016 - 13:49

Ian Brown

Some fucking shitheel in my paper today was talking about how hatred for this piece of shit is somehow evidence of a broader sexist agenda on the Sanders side.

May 22, 2016 - 13:51

Josiah Nguyen

As usual, identity politics plays its part in the reactionary obfuscation of reality.

May 22, 2016 - 13:53

Jaxon Thomas

meme candidate super #1 best guy

May 22, 2016 - 13:58

Jace Reyes

Nixon. Clinton. Almost Jackson.

May 22, 2016 - 14:03

Luis Bennett

Link?

May 22, 2016 - 14:03

Aaron Walker

It never fails. Speaking of, if I can be slightly off topic, I sincerely hope idpol doesn't take over here. It's been one of the few places of slight sanity left for me.

May 22, 2016 - 14:06

Bentley Parker

Pardoned by Ford immediately after.

Didn't happen.

Almost but not quite.

May 22, 2016 - 14:07

Thomas Adams

Please, don't ask me why I was watching this, but at 20:17, Sargon basically endorses Trump:
youtube.com/watch?v=O-PefbhDySE

You are no kind of leftist, Sargon. He specifically gives the vid related reasoning.

May 22, 2016 - 15:01

Easton Morris

I really hope he feels sincere embarrassment about this at some point

May 22, 2016 - 15:17

Brody Russell

Oh, he will. He did a Trump vs. Sanders video some months back and said he's vote for Sanders. The fallout in the comment section was hilarious, in a bad way. I think this is a combo of ignorance and wanting to not lose his userbase.

It seems he pushes the "regressive left" idea too hard, making it seem like there are actually no true progressives. Of course there are regressives(idpol), but he should do a better job of highlighting genuine, not insane progressives.

May 22, 2016 - 15:27

Adam Perry

Nixon resigned before the impeachment proceedings actually got anywhere, though.
Ford pardoned him, but not for any one specific thing.

May 22, 2016 - 15:30

Jordan Davis

If Trump wins, it could also be a good thing.

People keep yelling muh wall, but by doing so, they completely ignore everything else he stands for.
Under Trump, NEET lyfe will become hard to impossible. This could shift the internet in general and the chans in particular to the left again.

May 22, 2016 - 15:36

Adam Barnes

...

May 22, 2016 - 15:40

Grayson Rodriguez

...

May 22, 2016 - 15:42

Henry Wright

What's hilarious is that if Trump actually built his goddamn wall and made Mexico pay for it it would only made illegal immigration WORSE.

These people are fucking stupid.

May 22, 2016 - 15:43

Joseph Bennett

I tend to agree with Trump on a few things. This politically correct bullshit and sjw bullshit is annoying.
Should I vote Trump? A few years of Trump memes sounds a little hilarious tbh

May 22, 2016 - 15:44

Wyatt Baker

Are you implying he won't cut social spendings?
Are you implying there won't be unwanted job shortages, now that illegal immigrants are outlawed?

I'm still curious how he wants to force Mexico to pay for the wall?
Last time, some country tried to force them pay for something, said country got BTFO and their king was forced to retire.

May 22, 2016 - 15:46

Cameron Jenkins

Weak sauce.

May 22, 2016 - 15:46

Jonathan Price

>>>Holla Forums

May 22, 2016 - 15:46

Carter Peterson

The only two good things about Trump, is he even fucking does them at all, is killing TPP and maybe also killing idpol.

May 22, 2016 - 15:47

Alexander White

He says he'll cut all trade with them if they refuse or something.

May 22, 2016 - 15:48

Landon Morris

I might just not vote, idk, I really don't want to choose Trump or Hillary.

May 22, 2016 - 15:48

Cameron Morris

Vote for Basiago

May 22, 2016 - 15:49

Aiden Brown

How?

No, seriously, how?

Capitalism needs NEETs to have a threat for workers.
Unless you go full gulag and force labor to build your wall…

May 22, 2016 - 15:50

Noah Bailey

...

May 22, 2016 - 15:51

Adrian Cook

No man, he's a meme-spouting shitposter. None of the shit he's proposing is anything new. Hell, his campaign slogan was basically stolen from Reagan. The whole wall on the border thing is years old; didn't Herman Cain joke about having one with a moat filled with crocodiles? Same thing with all his bullshit about muslims.

Donald Trump is the 9gag of politics.

May 22, 2016 - 15:52

Nolan Anderson

Cut social spendings.
They no longer can afford internet
Do shitty jobs
No longer able to shitpost on the internet, because too busy or too tired

Some parents may try to support them, but they will not be able to do so all 4 years.
It will be a steady decline.

May 22, 2016 - 15:54

Jace Nelson

hi im not really into politics, is bernie going to win?

May 22, 2016 - 15:54

Gavin Parker

Lmao, I think we're being epic raided again guise

May 22, 2016 - 15:56

Carson Wood

Look man you do have a point but that was then and this is now. If Bill and Hillary both manage to evade justice their name will be tainted forever, and that in itself is its own justice. In fact I think Hillary would have a much worse time facing the backlash of her actions than if she went to jail while people calmed down.

Am I the only one who thinks the petition is fucking stupid? What exactly constitutes a "social justice" course? It's not as simple as subject matter. You can make an anthropology course social justice or a class that reads "The New Jim Crow" (which is a really shitty book filled with ideological tripe) a very good course. Is Sargon actually this stupid? Why does Goobyglab worship him? I remember when he first started rolling out he seemed OK.
Also the fuckboy in the video pisses me off. You don't elect someone to the most important job in the world because you like their memes or to send a message. Does he actually trust Trump with the nuclear codes?

Stopped reading there faggot

The hard part is getting the nomination, but it sure seems like it.

May 22, 2016 - 15:57

Brody Walker

No, but communism will.

May 22, 2016 - 15:57

Grayson Ross

You can not run away from reality forever.

May 22, 2016 - 15:58

Robert Young

Cutting social spending is a horrible idea.
/r/ing the Li'l Reactionary strips.

May 22, 2016 - 15:59

Luis Reed

...

May 22, 2016 - 15:59

Ayden Williams

I know it is.

May 22, 2016 - 16:02

Lincoln Nguyen

Case in point

May 22, 2016 - 16:08

Cooper Morris

I swear if Trump just adopted a Medicare-for-all plan and a minimum wage raise after the Republican primary, he could tack to the left of Hillary on foreign policy and then sweep the election with the left-national-populists on board with the right-populist he already has with his immigration rhetoric.

But of course he won't do that, that'd require him to challenge the Republican orthodoxy he's getting more involved in.

lol that's basically how Trump supporters are toward Bernie supporters. The average Bernie supporter is pretty indifferent to Trump (the hard-line supporters aren't), but the average Trump supporter is like "go away you violent socialist thugs, you aren't on our side".

May 22, 2016 - 16:16

Lucas Wilson

I don't anticipate him holding against TPP in the slightest. It's simply not in his own interests.

May 22, 2016 - 16:17

Christian Cox

We don't?

May 22, 2016 - 16:18

Josiah Campbell

You realize I know who you are right? You're the same faggot always bashing me for being a tripfag. Nobody else cares. Give it up faggot.

I've said it once and I'll say it again- I only use a trip because BO won't add a PR flag. Suck my underage dick and fuck off, mate.

That's slightly inaccurate, the GOP has never even pretended to give a shit about the poor.

Well he was a pretty big deal when I was involved.

May 22, 2016 - 16:20

Logan Nelson

Why do you need a trip if you just want a flag, why not just namefag

May 22, 2016 - 16:25

Grayson Wilson

sasuga tripfag-kun

May 22, 2016 - 16:25

Luke Cox

why do you resolve in babby language, when you don't like something.
Genuine question, because this makes you look retarded and I can't take you guys serious because of this.

May 22, 2016 - 16:25

Camden Gonzalez

ok

May 22, 2016 - 16:26

Leo Sanders

youtube.com/watch?v=b_IqFISaExM

"Bernie Sanders Interview ABC "This Week" FULL interview Sanders on a Rigged Election 5/21/2016"

Sanders did very well in this interview. I haven't watched the panel discussion afterwards yet, but in the interview itself Sanders took great advantage to push his message again without being caught up with BS questions. He always handles these questions just how you'd want a politician to.

I really love this guy.

May 22, 2016 - 16:28

Logan Miller

You guys? YOU GUYS?

WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY

YOU GUYS

May 22, 2016 - 16:30

Jacob Peterson

Talking like a retard is not how you get on top of the media.
This means you got on top with a lot of money. It's impossible for them to earn this amount of money through hard work, which means, they inherited that money, which in turn means they are ultra muh privileged and have no business in the SJ business, because honest SJWs would put them last on the progressive stack.
But the don't, which makes them dishonest.

May 22, 2016 - 16:31

Josiah Rivera

What?

May 22, 2016 - 16:33

Liam Harris

Because if I'm going half retard I might as well go full retard.
Actually, it was initially so people know who I am and don't confuse me with some false-flagging shitposter which I think has probably happened by now, thanks for reminding me.

He always has the same way of typing and extremely brief and shitty posts.

NEET. Thanks for sharing.

It's called irony.

May 22, 2016 - 16:34

Matthew Baker

Unlike yours?

May 22, 2016 - 16:35

Christopher Harris

That's right, my posts are of the tippy-toppest quality and have been peer-reviewed and vetted by other qualityposters. I have a very good process in this.

May 22, 2016 - 16:38

Isaac James

Ah, leave Lares guy alone. I certainly don't mind.

May 22, 2016 - 16:41

Hudson Barnes

Apparently Hillary agreed way back to participate in a California debate in May. I wasn't aware of this. She needs to keep her promise. I know, I know, Hillary & promises.. Eh.

youtube.com/watch?v=Z996y_v1xIs

May 22, 2016 - 17:34

Xavier Allen

If bernie wins in california and trumps polls keep going up against Hillary, it will make her look like a baby back bitch and work in bernies favor.

May 22, 2016 - 18:11

Nathan Sanchez

And that's precisely why they cancelled the exit polls.

May 22, 2016 - 18:28

Landon Jenkins

Just saying, Zizek said he was a Bernie "supporter" at Left Forum today

May 22, 2016 - 18:44

Gabriel Adams

latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-bernie-sanders-supporters-lawsuit-california-voter-confusion-20160522-snap-story.html
archive.is/kz6JV
Bernie Sanders supporters sue to have California's voter registration extended until election day

do we have video yet?

May 22, 2016 - 18:50

Benjamin Powell

I really wish Bernie would stop referring to himself in the third person, preferably before the media finally picks up on it and uses it as the next meme-y smear tactic.

May 22, 2016 - 18:54

James Smith

...

May 22, 2016 - 19:09

Brody Gutierrez

Does he?

May 22, 2016 - 19:13

Jayden Gutierrez

Well, I've done it. I've set the bait for a meeting with NATHAN_RED_SPENCER.

May 22, 2016 - 19:47

Adam Flores

Who?

May 22, 2016 - 19:48

Parker Young

Some asshole from /r/enoughsandersspam/

May 22, 2016 - 19:52

Jace Wilson

Liberals are too scared to just call them "gamergays" because "muh homophobic triggering language".

May 22, 2016 - 19:59

Kevin Allen

Although in most situations I normally wouldn't, for the time being I support the anti-immigration white given the current situation. I want a White Europe but if our current immigration crisis continues in 10 or 20 years there may not even be a white race to build a White Europe. My support in this presidential election goes to Donald Trump because although he's still a neoliberal cuck his proposed immigration policies can stop nonwhites from coming to the US and irrelevant shiting.

May 22, 2016 - 20:01

Brody Rogers

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May 22, 2016 - 20:39

Brayden Jenkins

"idpol > leftism"

May 22, 2016 - 21:30

Landon Hall

You really think so?

May 23, 2016 - 00:53

Nicholas Williams

Just like the rest of Holla Forums, being wreathed in expletives, porn, gore, and swastikas (in our case tankies) is our best defense against newfags who refuse to lurk, shed their delicate butthurt-prone sensibilities, and assimilate as human beings capable of carrying on an authentic conversation without a fainting couch.

Trump has waffled back and forth on whether or not he'll pump up LEGAL immigration quotas after stamping out (already borderline irrelevant in comparison) criminal aliens. Since practically nobody on either side is making a commonly discussed political issue (though Bernie has been pretty consistantly anti-immigration, but on the DL, since that's not PC to the worthless hipsters that make up a lot of his supporters) out of legal immigration, Trump could easily get away with it, and the neolibs on both sides wouldn't raise any kind of fuss.

I can always hope, though.

Probably not, unless he demands recounts, which would probably go pretty easy, since the electoral fraud is so blatant.

1. Do your lectures or course materials contain naked political propaganda or hate speech excused by paper-thin PC ideology?
2. If so, you're all suspended. If you can't restrain yourself, you're fired and blackballed.
3. Start fresh!

Basically the same "standard" that's supposed to apply to everyone.

It doesn't even have to be Medicare-for-all, many of the "socialized medicine" systems around the world are actually 100% private, but functionally identical to single-payer for the consumer. Our "system's" problem is that we DON'T HAVE a system.

May 23, 2016 - 01:11

Mason Butler

every time you post you prove that tripfags are nothing but pole smoking faggots that should lobotomize themselves with a rusty screwdriver

kill yourself you sixteen year old anal leakage

May 23, 2016 - 01:18

Camden Price

I wish Hillary would just drop dead on live television tbh

May 23, 2016 - 01:27

Connor Ramirez

Oh man, right? Like from a brain aneurysm or something? Just, BAM, lights out. The only thing sweeter would be if she were struck by lightning or a sniper's bullet.

May 23, 2016 - 01:29

Luke Powell

HOLY SHIT OMG HILLARY CLINTON IS SUCH A FUCKING SHITTY CANDIDATE!

realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

May 23, 2016 - 01:45

Adrian Davis

Compare it to Sanders versus Trump

realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-5565.html

May 23, 2016 - 01:48

Jace Wright

This is why pundits & her campaign(one in the same, tbh) are losing their shit on TV, begging Bernie to drop out.

Seriously, anyone other than Hillary supporters buy that bullshit? They're basically asserting she's a weak ass candidate who can't take her record being made public. Fucking awesome, to see Trump overtake her, and at least a month before the convention!

Pundits last night(after Bernie interview) talking about how favorability polls basically just continue to go down; rarely do they go back up. They also said that "attacking a popular candidate(though they didn't just say Bernie) statistically makes your favorability go down".

I'm loving this.

May 23, 2016 - 01:58

Hunter Carter

.A King Joffrey type death would be satisfying.

May 23, 2016 - 02:01

Alexander Watson

I wonder if the DNC "we can change our minds whenever because fuck you" delegates realize that a whole fucking lot of people will get comfortable with the Democratic Party if they just fucking let Sanders have the nomination.

Even from a purely selfish perspective, it's a conflict of interest. Clinton is a bribe money singularity, but her sheer unpopularity makes her suicidal in a match with a populist idiot that is effectively immune to criticism.

May 23, 2016 - 02:06

Gabriel Scott

>youtube.com/watch?v=_S2G8jhhUHg
Thoughts? Shitting on bernie goes from 6:40 to 7:15 and 12:40 to the end

May 23, 2016 - 02:08

Jordan Jackson

That's a good point. They keep doing really stupid things. Things that further alienate people & just prove Bernie & his supporter's [legitimate] complaints.

They keep going negative, as if they don't realize that will hurt them, as you said, even just purely from a selfish standpoint.

May 23, 2016 - 02:14

Alexander Mitchell

The only people who support Hillary are old white cat ladies and black people who vote for who their pastor tells them to vote for.
I think she might lose some cat lady votes when trump starts styling on her about how bill was friends and frequently rode on Jeffrey Epsteins pedo plane
or that time bill stuck a cigar up a womens cunt.
Or that time he cheated on Hillary.
or how he signed nafta into law and ruined the lives of the working class.
Or how hillary voted for the iraq war.
Or how hillary ruined libya and made it a safe haven for isis.
Or how hillary got caught on tape laughing at an underage rape victim when she was a lawyer

Meanwhile the lib medias only line of attack on trump is REEEEEEEEEEEEE HES HITLER!!!!!!!REEEEEEE

May 23, 2016 - 02:26

Nicholas Lee

I never liked that guy. No idea how he got his own show.

The segment was a tad bit more balanced than many on MSM, but that's not saying much. Those Politico & The Washington Post articles they cite are completely full of shit. And he can fuck himself with that ending.

May 23, 2016 - 02:32

Nolan Sanchez

For those that don't know, Jeffrey Epstein is a billionaire with his own island in the Caribbean where he flies the rich and powerful to have sex with his underage prostitutes. Bill Clinton went something like fourteen times and sometimes even ditched his security detail to do so.

May 23, 2016 - 02:34

Tyler Sanchez

Uh oh, user.. What did you do?

I remember "Poor Nathan", lmao. He deserves a good shit kicking, but what's going on?

May 23, 2016 - 02:38

Joseph Thomas

if you berntards weren't retarded you would have been spamming the shit out of that little info to ruin shillary cred with women, her husband is litttrly friends with a guy that had a rape island.
Too late now you beta fucks

May 23, 2016 - 02:57

Gavin Lee

It would make us come off as conspiracy nuts.

Also, Clinton is not her husband. It is much better to actually attack her on policy though.

You don't need to be worried though, Hillary is a horrible canddidate, so it's probably going to be Trump who wins the presidency.

May 23, 2016 - 03:13

Isaiah White

this is why you fuckers are losing, unwilling to fight dirty, clintons fight dirty how hard is it to make pic related and caption it with "ask me about the rape island"

May 23, 2016 - 03:21

Aiden Russell

>>>Holla Forums
And take your shitty memes with you.

In the beginning, Sanders got his huge following just because he doesn't fight dirty. The election was rigged & stacked against him, anyway, but Hillary would've gotten popular support if the only woman in the race was being attacked by two "mean old men".

Hillary's policy & actions are enough for her to lose. And Sanders actually has more female voters on his side. You wouldn't know that if you only watched MSM, though.

Sanders is going harder, now. At least our convention will be much more fun than yours. :^)

May 23, 2016 - 03:26

Lincoln Hernandez

Pretty much all that will happen

May 23, 2016 - 04:03

Joseph Gomez

This is just silly. Most are hard working, nine to fivers who are against corruption & the wealthy/establishment fucking us for too long.

That's like the retarded talking point that Sanders supporters are just college kid regressives. Not at all the case. He has most independents, and I'm sure some republicans as well, who don't want to settle for Trump.

I predict much more will happen there. Nevada was extremely small scale, and you saw how pissed the people were. This shit is building, and I hope it explodes & burns the DNC down to the ground.

May 23, 2016 - 04:18

Andrew Morales

...

May 23, 2016 - 04:20

Brayden Reyes

Pretty much how the "liberal" media will try to report it as.
Fixed that for you.

May 23, 2016 - 04:58

Eli Watson

hahahah what the fuck? does he actually use that gay Egyptian shit as a video intro?

May 23, 2016 - 05:02

Adam Price

Hey now, I'm sure someone worked very hard on that. :^)

And yeah, he does.

May 23, 2016 - 05:05

Mason Myers

Sargon is proof atheist can be spooked too.

May 23, 2016 - 05:36

Jackson Ortiz

don't wanna defend the fag but he once said America needs a bit of socialism when defending Bernie

May 23, 2016 - 05:51

Jeremiah Nguyen

Yeah.. but then he said he'd vote for Trump to "stick in Vox's craw".

May 23, 2016 - 06:04

Jackson Johnson

Panorama shot of Bernie's rally in Irvine, Cali.

May 23, 2016 - 06:05

Ryder Foster

He also said he's a libertarian

May 23, 2016 - 07:03

Robert Reed

raise you're hand if you're surprised.

May 23, 2016 - 07:37

Isaac James

So… Corporate rule with a strong state?
Sounds like absolute utter hell.

May 23, 2016 - 07:39

Aaron Garcia

There's a confirmed 50k+ already, with 5 different permits approved by Philadelphia. One organized by "Black Men for Bernie". They aren't hippies.

May 23, 2016 - 09:06

Hunter Hall

Late to the party, as usual.

May 23, 2016 - 09:09

Daniel Davis

Yah Brah. Look at it this way, we need about 529 delegates to win and there's over 784 left. That's about 67.5% of the remaining. Polling in California is limited but we're expected to take it by huge margins, the question is how huge. The goal as always is non-viable but there's no way to tell. We are expected to win everywhere except maybe New Jersey and DC, which only has 20 delegates. We already recognize how important New Jersey, California and Puerto Rico are and have phoneshills and fundraisers on the job.

The problem is how subjective that definition is.

Look man hey broski check it out dude but uh look here bromigo I think that uh fam you should friend maybe chum cool it a little hey pally bum buddy I think that's something we can all agree on right compadre like uh I'm not sure you've noticed but nobody cares even half as much as you do like you wouldn't want anyone to come to the conclusion that you suffer from severe autism now would you that would be bad especially for you but also for everyone else cause autists aren't liked around here so uh if you weren't so sore about it that'd be great alright

"Give 'Em A Hernie" Bernie is actually leading with every demographic under 45 except Blacks between 35 and 45. It's different lead sizes but he's winning with all but one working class demographic, and I think that one is close.

Libertarians are fairly woke, they just need to be declasscucked. They're already deeverythingelsecucked for the most part.

Make no mistake, if Bernie wins pledged delegates and the superdelegates don't care there will be fucking nationwide riots and Bernie will have a full license to run as a Green. Every route is looking more and more to being an inevitable Bernie win.

May 23, 2016 - 09:09

Jose Cooper

No, but apparently there were massive walkouts due to his stance on refugees and racism. People were passing out flyers w racist sounding stuff he said. If you check twitter zizek tag it's everywhere. I feel bad, IMO he doesn't worry about PC and just doesn't care if he is misinterpreted. but idk

May 23, 2016 - 09:09

Jordan Thompson

twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/375609403376144384

May 23, 2016 - 09:37

Christian Cox

Primary rules and voter registration deadlines are public information.

So how in the fuck did we let it get to this?

latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-bernie-sanders-supporters-lawsuit-california-voter-confusion-20160522-snap-story.html

May 23, 2016 - 09:39

Michael Morris

This is only tangentially related to American politics but I had this tab open, so hey. This white twink just tried to explain to me that this Mexican-themed movie called The Book of Life is racist (probably because it indulges in stereotypes and has fun with them instead of trying to refute them), you know, even though its director is Mexican, two of its four producers are Mexican, one of its two writers is Mexican, the score was done by a Mexican, most of the cast is Mexican, and the person telling me I should be offended by it isn't Hispanic or Mexican and I haven't seen basically ANY Hispanics be offended by this movie, in fact even on Tumblr they were hyping this movie.

It's a consistent pattern I've noticed, Hispanic people are among the least likely to cry racism. First are Whites and second are Blacks. BLACKS ARE SECOND. Do you understand how grave the situation is here?

When I explained the above to him, he was like, "I'm not going to get into this discussion." and I was like, "You better not, bitch." I bet he STILL thinks the movie is racist because "internalized racism" and "cultural appropriation" and whatnot.

For the record, Speedy Gonzales is a fucking icon in Mexico. We don't bore ourselves with idpol shit.

I'm so fucking mad.

May 23, 2016 - 09:46

Lucas Thompson

I'm thinking of putting ~€200 on Trump and donating the winnings to Rojova.

What'cha think LP? Should I do it?

May 23, 2016 - 10:56

Luke Lewis

no
no (ok well maybe)
no
no
look Trump winning doesn't look likely as long as Sanders is still in the race.

May 23, 2016 - 10:58

Jackson Ross

But most polls show Trump behind by only a few points. I believe he's leading in one too.

If Bernie gets the nomination then I obviously wouldn't bet on Trump but that doesn't seem likely.

The odds favour Clinton but don't the polls don't reflect that. Seems like a good deal..

What if she gets indited? What if her speeches are leaked? Trump has so much ammunition against Hillary it's starting to look pretty dire. At least some (minor) good will come out of it.

May 23, 2016 - 11:06

Jack Gray

The media is only framing it as unlikely. Like I've said above, the chances of her being indicted are pretty high and failing that he only needs 68% of the popular vote to win from here on out. In California, Montana, North Dakota, and South Dakota it should be very, very easy to make that, and these states have a total of 534 delegates. In the rest it should be fairly easy too. Puerto Rico has 60 delegates and it wants nothing to do with Shill. Worst case scenario is that he will end the voting season closer to Hillary than she was to Obama.

May 23, 2016 - 11:20

Austin Lopez

...

May 23, 2016 - 11:32

Eli Butler

Hillary's just a weak candidate. Blowing huge leads is what she does - did it against Obama, almost did it against Sanders, and should she hold on I don't see how, even given present polling, she gets past Trump.

There aren't enough status quo conservatives and idpol college students in the country to win a presidential election alone, and most of the country isn't nearly as afraid of Trump as the far-left is.

And Hillary isn't even all that distinct from Trump politically - it's hard to turn a democrat who voted lockstep with Bush on civil liberties issues into a standard-bearer against fascism!

Honestly, I'm voting third party, probably for Jerry White of the SEP, barring an independent run by Sanders or something else big that shakes up the race. We get Trumpism either way; at least this way I can say I voted against it.

May 23, 2016 - 11:34

David Gray

Forgive me as I'm not familiar with the US election process but aren't the super delegates loyal to Hillary? Are those states you listed open primaries?

I don't know, from what I've seen the best chances of Trump losing would be from someone like Gary Johnson running as third party and taking away Trump votes. Trump's popularity has only been rising, similarly with Bernie (which is too little too late) all the while Clinton's has only been falling.

May 23, 2016 - 11:38

Gabriel Stewart

Yep, that's why he's so likely to win them. California registration is legendary.

No, superdelegates don't have any obligation to vote for who they've committed to. We don't see much of what goes on behind the scenes but I imagine the Hillary Victory Fund ending up being a funnel scheme has at least many of them fucking livid, and if Sanders wins a majority of pledged delegates they have no excuse or reason to make excuses.

Gary Johnson isn't going anywhere as polling and such shows because Gary Johnson is a fucking idiot and libertarians are in a precious minority of Americans. Not so much politically active Americans, but the electorate isn't mostly politically active.

May 23, 2016 - 11:42

Camden Adams

...

May 23, 2016 - 12:03

Samuel Jones

He's still trailing behind in polls, let alone getting 68% of the popular vote. I'd love to be proven wrong but It seems unlikely.

Well it depends on who gets the nomination for the Libertarian party but It's possible they'll get their nominee on all 50 state ballots, given Hillary+Trump are the most unpopular candidates in the history of the US elections, I wouldn't count the Libertarians out as a force on deciding whether Trump or Clinton wins.

I'll be watching the elections closely, but as far as betting goes (which was what I was asking about) Trump could bring in a considerable amount of cash which would be put to good use to fund Rojova's agriculture or their fight against ISIS.

May 23, 2016 - 12:21

Grayson Rogers

Those polls are from a month ago. Bernie climbs tens of points in weeks. He will get much more than 68%, quote me. Oregon will probably end up at something like 64% when all is said and done and that state is CLOSED.

May 23, 2016 - 12:33

Jayden Adams

Anyone got that screenshot of the r/enoughsandersspam with the Correct the Record banner? Someone doesn't believe it, or wants me to prove it, lmao. It would be helpful.

May 23, 2016 - 12:42

Wyatt Watson

I wouldn't conclude much from that. Correct The Record is an ebin may may for them because they think that everything is dandy and nothing as fucked up as Correct The Record would actually happen.

May 23, 2016 - 12:49

Ayden Peterson

you're a massive faggot and should kill yourself

May 23, 2016 - 12:52

Lucas Edwards

theguardian.com/us-news/2016/may/23/women-female-voters-us-election-hillary-clinton
archive.is/JtKRl
'I'm not with her': why women are weary of Hillary Clinton

May 23, 2016 - 12:53

Cooper Davis

Look man hey broski check it out dude but uh look here bromigo I think that uh fam you should friend maybe chum cool it a little hey pally bum buddy I think that's something we can all agree on right compadre like uh I'm not sure you've noticed but nobody cares even half as much as you do like you wouldn't want anyone to come to the conclusion that you suffer from severe autism now would you that would be bad especially for you but also for everyone else cause autists aren't liked around here so uh if you weren't so sore about it that'd be great alright

May 23, 2016 - 12:54

Owen Hughes

...

May 23, 2016 - 12:55

Brayden Bennett

you're a massive faggot and should kill yourself

May 23, 2016 - 12:56

Jaxson Scott

Hey uh buddy chum pal I don't know how many times I'm gonna have to tell you this duder but now would be a great time to cut it out and if i'm quite honest i'm starting to get a little heated up and worn out my dude because as you can see nobody else cares see you're wasting oxygen because nobody cares so now would be a good time to stop and uh think about the environment hey friendo?

May 23, 2016 - 12:58

Owen Diaz

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's someone just trying to troll. At this point, it's so well known in s4p that it's almost conspiracy not to think it's real.

May 23, 2016 - 12:59

Samuel Wright

Stop posting.

May 23, 2016 - 13:01

Christian Robinson

you're a massive faggot and should kill yourself

May 23, 2016 - 13:02

Anthony Lopez

Have you considered that there are more important things in life than policing peoples' usage of features on a Bhutanese theater imageboard run by a lolbertarian cripple? Holy fuck, I don't spend as much energy on anything as you retards are on this insignificant shit. If you have a problem with my name get BO to add a PR flag. You're wasting space. This is the last time I'm going to reply to you idiots because apparently my last couple of posts telling you you weren't going to get anywhere with that weren't good enough. It seems like you idiots have HPD.

May 23, 2016 - 13:06

Gabriel Butler

you're a massive faggot and should kill yourself

May 23, 2016 - 13:08

Easton Clark

Makes sense. If I were a woman I would want a role model to be the first woman president, not a criminal.

May 23, 2016 - 13:12

Parker Bell

Stop posting.

May 23, 2016 - 13:17

Evan Barnes

Hide, ignore, do not reply and report.

May 23, 2016 - 13:54

Camden Morales

youtube.com/watch?v=3nuElu-ipTQ

Based FDR
Literally everything about this speech could be applied to 2016.

May 23, 2016 - 13:55

Chase Campbell

Is he trying to discretely say he will run as a independent?

May 23, 2016 - 14:05

Lucas Gomez

...

May 23, 2016 - 14:08

Jason Adams

Trots go away.

May 23, 2016 - 14:09

Charles Jones

oh wait I forgot I was in the Bernie general my bad

May 23, 2016 - 14:17

Evan Garcia

I don't know if this is worth mentioning but Bernie is talking about more worker ownership in this tweet.

May 23, 2016 - 14:18

Brayden Cooper

reddit-tier post my man

May 23, 2016 - 14:20

Lincoln Stewart

...

May 23, 2016 - 14:21

Lucas Collins

oh no don't call me a redditer hissssssss it burrrrns

i don't know what the fuck you're ineptly trying to argue but it's possible to appreciate the gains made by labor under roosevelt without resorting to worshiping the figure of who is ultimately your class enemy

May 23, 2016 - 14:28

Jacob Davis

I don't agree with you about reformists, but that's funny, lmao

May 23, 2016 - 14:29

Samuel Russell

...

May 23, 2016 - 14:30

Jace Williams

Well posted, my redditor friend

May 23, 2016 - 14:31

Henry Bennett

glad u had a chuckle m8

HISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

May 23, 2016 - 14:34

Caleb Miller

REDDIT
REDDIT
REDDIT

May 23, 2016 - 14:39

Tyler Garcia

But for real. Hillary isn't good for women. Her presidency wouldn't create the pathways for more women to enter leadership positions, except for those in the oil, coal, and natural gas industry and in Wall Street conference rooms.

Women are the majority of minimum wage workers, the majority of college graduates, and the majority of those living in poverty. LBR, Bernie's policies aren't what poor people really need, but at least he's kind of trying to help them, whereas she only pretends to until it comes down to actually doing something of substance.

Furthermore, while civilian men and boys are killed, tortured, and imprisoned more often than women during armed conflict, women and girls face still face their own set of struggles in times of war. Displaced women and girls and vulnerable to sex trafficking, rape is common in refugee camps, widows struggle to financially provide for themselves and their family. It also would not surprise me if domestic abuse increased during war since people are stressed the fuck out and may not know how to handle it, especially if they lose their friends and family who could otherwise help them cope more healthily. With rape, women and girls can become pregnant or be infected with STI's like HIV. And while they're not killed as often as men and boys, death is still a highly present threat. Specific incidences of female victimhood in war include the Nanking massacre, the gang rape and murder of 14 year old Abeer Qassim Hamza al-Janabi by American soldiers, Japan's "comfort women", the My Lai Massacre, and the gang rape and murder of Phan Thi Mao by American soldiers.

Clinton has even acknowledged female suffering in war, but that doesn't stop her from being a war hawk. It's almost like she prioritizes women when it's politically expedient and throws them under the bus when it's profitable.

While I was trying to find the Iraqi girl's name, I saw a photo, I believe, of the "aftermath" of her murder and became overwhelmed with heartbreak and nausea. This is exactly the kinda shit Clinton knows happens in imperialist wars but she doesn't let it phase her ardent support of them. Bernie's no saint either, but Clinton is a full-on neocon. But yes, tell me how great she is for women, especially women of color. :^) Fucking Christ I hate her, everyone else like her, and their allies in the media.

May 23, 2016 - 14:39

Nicholas Taylor

le upvoted XD

May 23, 2016 - 14:41

James Morales

I don't know who this cat is, but I want more.

Share rare kittyz if you got 'em, pls

May 23, 2016 - 14:47

Joseph Phillips

youtube.com/watch?v=CAbqUjQ4ZCQ

May 23, 2016 - 14:50

Andrew Sanders

Also, the coup in Honduras she supported is militantly anti-choice. Honduras wasn't some haven for women's autonomy before the coup, but Zelaya did veto anti-choice legislation. One day after the coup, the new government banned all forms of emergency contraception. Imagine going to jail for taking the morning after pill. Or, like, using a condom. But #I'mWithHer because #She'sWithUs. (I realize the original article was slamming Hillary for being hypocritical, but people who don't just get me so heated.)

May 23, 2016 - 14:55

Anthony Roberts

...

May 23, 2016 - 14:58

Jayden Brooks

Ah, that's where it's from :DDD I even have the webm. I don't know why it makes me so happy.

thanks for rare kittyz

May 23, 2016 - 15:01

Jason Stewart

Cooperatives are part of his platform. And they're probably the most realistic approach to socialism. Get people used to employee ownership and they'll see how much better that is.

May 23, 2016 - 15:09

Asher Foster

...

May 23, 2016 - 15:14

Cooper Clark

user, pls.

May 23, 2016 - 15:17

Joshua Morales

END THIS MEME

The Democrats lost in 2000 because of the Supreme Court and other anti-democratic fuckery, not the Green Party. This meme exists solely to keep people in the Democratic Party.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

May 23, 2016 - 15:20

Aaron Russell

I suggested he take another set of pictures of the campaign office in my area. I'm not exactly sure what I want to do; while part of me wanted to confront him, another part of me wanted to create an anti-Clinton mural.

May 23, 2016 - 15:46

Luke Cooper

is revolution

May 23, 2016 - 15:47

Nathaniel Lewis

At the rally in SM.

May 23, 2016 - 15:52

Nathan Miller

How are things there?

May 23, 2016 - 15:53

Joseph Cooper

The line is all the way around the street corner and up the hill.

May 23, 2016 - 15:54

Jose Richardson

It keeps getting longer.

May 23, 2016 - 15:57

Evan Lee

Post proof you're really there.
Timestamp with boardname.

also sharpie in bum, pls

May 23, 2016 - 15:59

Owen Baker

Haven't got any paper. Tell me something to take a picture of.

May 23, 2016 - 16:00

Brody Carter

sharpie in bum :^)

May 23, 2016 - 16:03

Dylan Morgan

You with a clenched fist.

May 23, 2016 - 16:04

Josiah Morales

your dick

May 23, 2016 - 16:05

Aaron Davis

write "hi Holla Forums" on your dick

May 23, 2016 - 16:05

Henry Gonzalez

...

May 23, 2016 - 16:06

Jaxon Cooper

Disregarded

kidding. Cool thing. How's the mood there?

May 23, 2016 - 16:07

Thomas Perry

You should be ashamed of yourself.

May 23, 2016 - 16:07

Caleb Richardson

Wow, way to misgender him sinner. Did you even ask him what his preferred pronouns are?

May 23, 2016 - 16:08

Dylan Butler

How long have you been in line

May 23, 2016 - 16:09

Chase Smith

About 20 minutes. But I'm at the back.

There are a lot of people wearing a lot of Bernie gear.

May 23, 2016 - 16:11

Levi Collins

Uhhh yeah.. Nice hand. Now show elbow.

ಠ‿↼

May 23, 2016 - 16:12

Ryan Diaz

Are you cute? :3

May 23, 2016 - 16:12

Austin Jones

...

May 23, 2016 - 16:14

Cooper Rivera

Kek, is that you?
Nice shirt!

May 23, 2016 - 16:15

Carter Diaz

Nope, just a passerby.

May 23, 2016 - 16:16

Jace Ramirez

Awesome shirt

May 23, 2016 - 16:17

Justin Price

Dem
TITAYS :D:D:D:D

May 23, 2016 - 16:19

Bentley Watson

...

May 23, 2016 - 16:21

Joshua Robinson

More Sanderista cuties.

May 23, 2016 - 16:23

Levi Diaz

O hai dere

May 23, 2016 - 16:25

Oliver Lee

...

May 23, 2016 - 16:26

Aiden Watson

moar

May 23, 2016 - 16:30

Christopher Stewart

That post from before is actually me, a different user :* And I'm a girl so maybe it's less faggy, now that you know

hai.. I think the one of the left is cuter, but that's probably because of the make up.

May 23, 2016 - 16:32

Grayson Jackson

And there are a couple of chicks that post here that I've seen, so I'm not special or anything

May 23, 2016 - 16:34

Benjamin Lopez

...

May 23, 2016 - 16:34

Austin Morris

To me you're very special. You guys all are :3

Where is the building on the second picture at?

May 23, 2016 - 16:35

Ryder Powell

Noone is special.
Yet, everyone is special.

WE ARE ALL INDIVIDUALS!
am not

May 23, 2016 - 16:36

Daniel Williams

I'm a girl too and I type the same way, but really it wouldn't bother me if guys did it too.

May 23, 2016 - 16:37

Blake Ortiz

first pic?

May 23, 2016 - 16:37

John Stewart

Tiemstahmp?

have to ask, cuz chan

May 23, 2016 - 16:37

Joshua Rogers

I was the one who did the smiley.

I don't know, It's just something I do and honestly I don't care if it seems girly.

May 23, 2016 - 16:38

Anthony Nguyen

tiddies

May 23, 2016 - 16:40

Grayson Murphy

It was handed out.

May 23, 2016 - 16:40

Grayson Jenkins

Are these guys leftcoms or something?

May 23, 2016 - 16:43

Jaxson Hughes

Most girls are actually fags though

May 23, 2016 - 16:43

Angel Young

Awwwwww, thanks user I was just thinking the other day how much I appreciate everyone here. Makes ya feel like you have friends. ;) I posted that Cartman webm yesterday or the day before.

My friend's mom used to tell me, "Now, remember.. You're unique! Just like everyone else!"

Fuck yeah :D It's like a rare breed surfaces when we see another girl post, lmao. And that's one thing I like about this board, people don't care if you say "lol, lmao" or give corny smileys sometimes.

May 23, 2016 - 16:43

Hunter Ward

touche

May 23, 2016 - 16:44

Jace Martin

Why is that guy holding a leaflet that says "Mass Suicide"?
And the other with on that says Sodom?

May 23, 2016 - 16:45

Adrian Davis

Lmao, we just got a crazy conspiracist one about like the fuckin pope and JFK assassination.

Lawrence, KS rally, if anyone else was there. Post pics if u still have it pls. It was wild.

May 23, 2016 - 16:45

Andrew Sullivan

You're welcome :)
Is that you with the sign.

Ur pretty qt

I-i-if you don't mind me saying so

May 23, 2016 - 16:46

Xavier Baker

...

May 23, 2016 - 16:46

Austin Evans

There was an evangelist passing out flyers.

May 23, 2016 - 16:47

Carson Jackson

Fuck, that guy looks tough!

May 23, 2016 - 16:47

Sebastian Bennett

icwpredflag.org/
dat web 1.0

May 23, 2016 - 16:48

Jace Clark

Oh, naw it's not me. Someone posted it in this thread a while back & I saved it; it was a great sign. :)

May 23, 2016 - 16:49

Easton Jackson

god bless them

May 23, 2016 - 16:50

Adrian Turner

Heard. If Bernie hasn't been through your state yet you should totally meet up with one just like it!

May 23, 2016 - 16:51

Daniel Clark

New poll out by SurveyUSA has Bernie behind in California.

Clinton 57 percent

Sanders 39 percent

abc7.com/politics/poll-clinton-poised-to-defeat-sanders-in-california-primary/1351808/

May 23, 2016 - 16:54

Justin Thompson

...

May 23, 2016 - 16:57

Parker Mitchell

People there are a little older than I though.

They're pretty average, normal people.

May 23, 2016 - 16:59

Luke Hill

Aren't they a pretty shit pollster?

May 23, 2016 - 17:01

Wyatt Roberts

I don't really know, but five-thirty-eight is showing the same thing.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/california-democratic/

May 23, 2016 - 17:04

James Peterson

Fortunately Instagram exists so people assume that's why I'm asking to take pictures of them.

May 23, 2016 - 17:04

Andrew Walker

TOO CUTE! TOO CUTE! TOO CUTE!

SAY HI TO HIJABI HABIBI FOR ME!

May 23, 2016 - 17:06

Carson Barnes

Uh, yeah? 538 aren't pollsters. They're just displaying the results of that poll.

May 23, 2016 - 17:06

Nolan Cruz

kek, what do you tell them?

May 23, 2016 - 17:06

Parker Kelly

It'll be so depressing if that's true. Just the fact that millions of normal people would support her boggles my mind.

May 23, 2016 - 17:07

Evan Jones

A good mix of high name recognition and low-information voters.

May 23, 2016 - 17:09

Caleb Hernandez

She laughed.

I just ask if I can take a picture.

May 23, 2016 - 17:10

Henry Garcia

marry her

May 23, 2016 - 17:11

Landon Sanders

She seems cute. You said "hijabi habibi"?

Anyways, pls marry her.

May 23, 2016 - 17:12

Parker Campbell

The low information voters I know don't even turn out for primaries. They'd have to be motivated to actually support Shillary over Sanders to even care about a primary.

May 23, 2016 - 17:12

Alexander Price

Yep.

May 23, 2016 - 17:12

Bentley Perry

what does that mean?

May 23, 2016 - 17:14

Jack James

Kek, you rock.
Will you marry her?

Being afraid of Trump is enough for many low information voters, especially if they belong to a minority.

Habibi means "beloved".

So like, it means a cute arab or cute muslim.

May 23, 2016 - 17:15

Logan Gomez

Don't have a ring on me, unfortunately.

May 23, 2016 - 17:16

Isaac Kelly

kek

May 23, 2016 - 17:16

Evan Bailey

Tell her the internet has decided that you two have to go on a date after Bernie's speech. Also 1 more photo of her, plz

May 23, 2016 - 17:17

Camden Barnes

Do you want him to get arrested lad

May 23, 2016 - 17:17

Brayden Morales

At least get her number.

Tell her that you're under peer pressure.

May 23, 2016 - 17:17

Hunter Taylor

Why not; here ya go. :) Pls no bully.

I'm the one who posts about India sometimes, that's mehendi on my hand.

That would be awesome; but I'm not at home right now. I wish I could be at the Philly convention, too, with a sign like that. She gets respect for that sign; it was perfect.

May 23, 2016 - 17:18

Adrian Garcia

She said another picture would feel weird. Sorry. She seems pretty shy.

May 23, 2016 - 17:19

Robert Torres

lal salam, comrade

May 23, 2016 - 17:19

Kayden James

[bullies you]

May 23, 2016 - 17:19

Gabriel Nelson

did you ask her out, tho?

May 23, 2016 - 17:20

Christian Rogers

...

May 23, 2016 - 17:20

Camden Nelson

That looks beautiful!
Ur indian or something?

Oh well there will be other chances! Thanks for timestamp :)

May 23, 2016 - 17:21

Ian Perry

trips of success (if you ask her out)

May 23, 2016 - 17:21

Lincoln Wright

Nah, I've got a crush in Argentina.

May 23, 2016 - 17:21

James Campbell

That's pretty funny though.

May 23, 2016 - 17:21

Caleb Stewart

Yeah.
In argentina.
You're not in Argentina, fool ;)

May 23, 2016 - 17:22

Josiah Young

user do you live in Flint Michigan? Do you have access to running water?

Because you seem thirsty as fuck

May 23, 2016 - 17:22

Zachary Roberts

...

May 23, 2016 - 17:22

Jayden Hughes

Are you the guy who said India's health care is super cheap and Americans are getting ripped off? Pretty generic statement, but if it was you, I remembered it and my friend whose parents immigrated to the U.S. from India and I chatted about it.

May 23, 2016 - 17:23

Noah Brooks

qt

May 23, 2016 - 17:23

Jayden White

Thanks user! My soon to be mother in law did the design. I'm actually American(white, southern), just living in India.

Welcome, and see ya round. :)

May 23, 2016 - 17:23

Joshua Miller

I only drink male tears.

what does "thirsty" mean in meme-speak?

May 23, 2016 - 17:23

Tyler Barnes

Oh, it can be fulfilled alright.

May 23, 2016 - 17:24

Ayden Kelly

It means you're really desperate for romantic/sexual attention from someone specific who doesn't reciprocate. It's AAVE.

May 23, 2016 - 17:25

Nathan Clark

thirsty is a commonly used term used by melanin enhanced individuals meaning you're desperate for some fuck or a relationship

May 23, 2016 - 17:25

Bentley Sullivan

lust for human flesh

May 23, 2016 - 17:25

Ryder Ramirez

can you record .webm with your phone?

May 23, 2016 - 17:25

Kayden Wood

Desperate essentially

May 23, 2016 - 17:26

Isaiah Scott

madman

May 23, 2016 - 17:26

Nathaniel Perry

Das me. I had shit access to healthcare in the states, but here it's completely different. RX meds for pennies on the dollar.. and I don't need a prescription most times, either

May 23, 2016 - 17:27

Jayden Kelly

The line wrapped around the whole block.

May 23, 2016 - 17:28

Jack Rodriguez

Guilty as charged.

Nah. But I do feel pretty lonely :(

May 23, 2016 - 17:28

Angel Smith

JUST

May 23, 2016 - 17:28

Henry Long

We all are user

I'm sorry

May 23, 2016 - 17:29

John Gomez

More line.

May 23, 2016 - 17:29

Hudson Ramirez

ZOO

May 23, 2016 - 17:30

Dylan Murphy

Ditto. And I don't think it was thirsty, you were being genuinely nice, and I appreciate it.

May 23, 2016 - 17:30

Samuel Taylor

Maybe us naughty anons can make you feel a little less lonely for a night

May 23, 2016 - 17:31

Cameron Campbell

Jesus christ

May 23, 2016 - 17:31

Charles Flores

that's socialism all right

jk

May 23, 2016 - 17:31

Blake Sullivan

IT

May 23, 2016 - 17:32

Kayden Cooper

I love you guys.
I live in bumfuck nowhere with a long shitty life of agricultural work in front of me, but you guys make me feel at home :3

I'm sorry if this is faggy in any way

May 23, 2016 - 17:33

Luke Bell

Apparently he passes the place every day for work, so it's unlikely I'll be able to confront him (and I probably wouldn't want to anyway), but I will be able to leave him (and everyone else at /r/ess/) a little gift ;^)

May 23, 2016 - 17:34

Adam Jackson

She seemed like she was on to me when I asked.

May 23, 2016 - 17:35

Levi Jenkins

It must include scat. Please.

May 23, 2016 - 17:35

Christian Adams

This is a chan, we're all fags here.

May 23, 2016 - 17:35

Jeremiah Carter

Like… suspecious?

Also post some guys too

May 23, 2016 - 17:37

Henry Gray

...

May 23, 2016 - 17:37

Joshua Garcia

She's touching his butt

May 23, 2016 - 17:37

Elijah Barnes

ilu2 lad/ss

May 23, 2016 - 17:38

Justin Torres

something about her makes me smile

May 23, 2016 - 17:39

Chase Barnes

We love you, too

Where ya from, user?

May 23, 2016 - 17:39

Mason Lopez

Nah, something much more horrifying

Basically this image drawn up on the big concrete wall there along with a few links to some of the more damning comments on /r/ess/

May 23, 2016 - 17:40

Ryan Edwards

I love you too user

May 23, 2016 - 17:40

Julian Turner

Probably the bosom, you pervy wanker.

May 23, 2016 - 17:40

James Perry

nah tiddies are nice but they don't give me the same feeling

May 23, 2016 - 17:41

Josiah Evans

How long have you been standing in line? How far would you estimate you are from the entrance (waiting time or distance)?

I was literally just talking about it two days ago, so it's just kinda nuts that you're here again. And are you one of the girls from earlier in this thread? Your hand seemed kind of feminine and I've never seen henna on anyone but a chick. I'm . If you're a dude, pretty hands are very nice on men….

May 23, 2016 - 17:42

Zachary Moore

nice

May 23, 2016 - 17:42

Daniel Martinez

They look very familiar

May 23, 2016 - 17:43

James Peterson

Almost two hours. We're very close now.

May 23, 2016 - 17:43

Michael Perry

Thanks

I hope you're not just saying that, I rely on channers to counteract my innate autism

May 23, 2016 - 17:44

Hunter Nelson

Thank you guys :P

Central Europe. Pretty far out in the country-side. Right now I'm learning the ropes of organic farming because I realized that a carrer within mathematics and chemistry would simply would simply be a long life of doing labour I was adequate at but had no passion for whatsoever.

Hah! I like it!

May 23, 2016 - 17:44

Kayden Allen

Well, Trump face could use a little refinement, he looks like a simpsons character right now.
But the concept is great.

May 23, 2016 - 17:45

Matthew Myers

That sounds like a horrible strategy

May 23, 2016 - 17:45

Lucas Robinson

I think benis poster got revved up, lmao

May 23, 2016 - 17:46

Landon Watson

Oh, and Hillary placed Neera Tanden (the person Bruenig was fired for fighting with) on the committee.

May 23, 2016 - 17:47

Asher Morgan

it's happening

the cult of personality is forming

USSA soon

May 23, 2016 - 17:49

Evan Phillips

I'm crackling with sexual energy atm

Last guy I flirted with here was from central europe, why does everyone have to be so far away? At least the qt korean chick interning with me feels like a possibility.

May 23, 2016 - 17:49

Leo Cooper

Impossible! :^)

May 23, 2016 - 17:50

Ryan Morris

I haven't left, lmao. I've stayed in this thread for at least a month, I'd guess. And yeah, I'm a girl. :) I didn't correct you earlier because I thought it might just be "guy" as in "you guys" or something. And thanks for the compliment!

May 23, 2016 - 17:51

Caleb Wilson

I think it's very good, user. I remember when you posted it like a week ago, too, asking how it looked.

May 23, 2016 - 17:52

Christopher Jenkins

...

May 23, 2016 - 17:53

Brody Wood

Kek, being bi can be fairly practical, I can tell!

He looks nice.

A lot of nice happy people. Not at all like Holla Forums infographs.

May 23, 2016 - 17:54

Zachary Parker

Ah so it really was no homo. kek.

May 23, 2016 - 17:54

Blake Evans

Very cool. Farming sounds great. You're more of "your own man" than many other modern jobs. It's a very good skill to have. And if nuclear war comes, you'll be one of the most important ones, lol.

Farming is dying out, so it needs to be preserved. Good on you for continuing it.

May 23, 2016 - 17:56

Landon Torres

More line.

May 23, 2016 - 17:56

Colton Adams

jww.org/?s=palestine

May 23, 2016 - 17:56

Evan Bailey

My fucking sides. I'd let her call me daddy

May 23, 2016 - 17:56

Aiden Howard

Yea, but not bearing any fruit so far. Maybe I'll get lucky this time. I dunno, I'm not great with this kinda stuff.

sexual identity is a spook tho

May 23, 2016 - 17:57

Justin Gonzalez

ENTRYISM CONFIRMED

May 23, 2016 - 17:57

Cameron Brooks

Yeah, it was just a rough draft to see if I could even make anything half-way decent, think I might do a few more practice drawings. Thanks m8

Thanks user

May 23, 2016 - 17:58

Wyatt Nelson

I'm in.

May 23, 2016 - 17:58

Parker Martin

Ayyyyy. I almost always mean "guy" as a unisex term. Sorry about that lmao.

Where? I'm bi as fuck. You gotta let me know so people don't actually think I'm straight. I want a GF in my future.

May 23, 2016 - 17:59

Adam Reyes

Good!
Now spread communism!

May 23, 2016 - 18:00

Aiden Rodriguez

Quotations From Chairman Berine when?

May 23, 2016 - 18:01

Blake Rivera

Yeah, I think it was my frustration with intellectualism and the prospect of urban life that really burned me out.

This pays a lot worse, but I'm planning on moving to America and starting my own cooperative.

also I can cooks some chems :)

Don't worry

We can flirt :^)

I love the degeneracy. At least we can hav fun here :)

gz comr8! How many there?

May 23, 2016 - 18:01

Ethan Fisher

SOON

May 23, 2016 - 18:03

Henry Hall

here I think

Also, were you that transhumanist poster who was a bi grill? Probably not, I think.

May 23, 2016 - 18:03

Ryan Bailey

omelette du fromage~

May 23, 2016 - 18:04

Jordan Rivera

...

May 23, 2016 - 18:03

Jaxson Phillips

Kek, what?

Wow, it looks like it's going to be pretty packed. How many people does the place support?

May 23, 2016 - 18:06

Elijah Taylor

...

May 23, 2016 - 18:06

Ryan Moore

Lots of people.

May 23, 2016 - 18:07

Chase Barnes

Oh nah that's not me. I love anonymous posting, but sometimes it's confusing when we're being social for once. Transhumanist girl is a lesbian, but I am the bi girl chatting with her a few months ago. I'm usually not this cancerous, but we're having fun so I thought it'd be alright to let loose for now.

May 23, 2016 - 18:07

Brody Parker

I'd empower her proletariat, if you know what I mean.

May 23, 2016 - 18:09

Kayden Hill

*I am the bi girl who chatted with her a few months ago (in a town hall thread IIRC? it was a while ago, I don't keep track)

May 23, 2016 - 18:09

Adam Russell

god damn thats a lot of qts

May 23, 2016 - 18:10

Isaiah Clark

Normal nice-looking people, which a hope in their heart and a flicker in the eye.

It is good to see.

Kek. How is this cancerous?
We're having fun. One of the few boards where you still can. Let's enjoy it while we can.

kek.
I would totally hold the shit out of her hand

May 23, 2016 - 18:11

Evan Perry

Do you wanna be my objet petit a, ypg poster?

May 23, 2016 - 18:12

Liam Hall

Do you like to be the signifier or the signified? ;)

May 23, 2016 - 18:13

Robert Russell

Ah, that's right I remember. Not often I get to talk with another bi person. You like masculine guys, bears, or twinks? I have a soft spot for /cuteboys/, I remember seeing this skinny brown kid in my spanish class with long hair that came to his eyes, when I couldn't get the super cute image out of my head that's when I knew I was bi.

May 23, 2016 - 18:18

Gabriel Johnson

Either's fine with me. And I'm always up for some subject object inversion.

May 23, 2016 - 18:18

Bentley James

L-lewd.

kek

Hey, are you still here, rally, attendant?

Bernie on yet?

May 23, 2016 - 18:21

Ethan Nelson

Holy shit, latest polling from California is almost a month old.

May 23, 2016 - 18:23

Daniel Garcia

I'm quite thirsty.

May 23, 2016 - 18:29

Jeremiah Anderson

...

May 23, 2016 - 18:30

Noah Garcia

It's the darling in the flesh.

May 23, 2016 - 18:31

Jordan Bailey

Don't worry! I can cyber with you ;)

SAY HI FROM Holla Forums!

SEND YOUR REGARDS TO JIMMY!

May 23, 2016 - 18:32

Chase Lopez

Ask him to sign your copy of Red Flag

May 23, 2016 - 18:33

Gabriel Lopez

...

May 23, 2016 - 18:34

Christian Richardson

fucking terrifying

May 23, 2016 - 18:35

Landon Lopez

I got close enough to shake his hand and told him Holla Forums loves him and to say hi to Jimmy.

May 23, 2016 - 18:37

Camden Jenkins

KEK
I don't think everyone here especially like cenk though I think he's okay though

May 23, 2016 - 18:38

Matthew King

You think he made a note of it or was it just a very passing thing?

May 23, 2016 - 18:39

Aaron Edwards

He said "Leftypol, huh?" and I said "Yeah!"

May 23, 2016 - 18:40

Easton Smith

No, but Cenk is all about ego.
You don't get him to send his regards if you don't kiss his ass first.

May 23, 2016 - 18:40

Jackson Lewis

KEK THIS IS SO GOOD!

May 23, 2016 - 18:40

Jace Cooper

...

May 23, 2016 - 18:42

Wyatt Baker

Are you in this picture user?

May 23, 2016 - 18:42

Michael Rodriguez

Nope, I'm on the other side.

May 23, 2016 - 18:43

Parker Gonzalez

AYY it's commissar jimmy

May 23, 2016 - 18:43

Justin Hill

Chairman Jimmy!

May 23, 2016 - 18:44

Ayden Nguyen

Jimmy doesn't have a picture of user. :(

May 23, 2016 - 18:44

Jayden Jones

OMG YOU MUST FIND JIMMY AND SAY HI! :DDDDD

May 23, 2016 - 18:45

Daniel Allen

GET A SELFIE WITH HIM!

May 23, 2016 - 18:45

Liam Robinson

10x as many registered Democrats voted for George W. Bush than Nader in Florida.

May 23, 2016 - 18:46

Gabriel Rivera

wew lad

May 23, 2016 - 18:46

Anthony Rivera

Jimmy, I'm by the disability seating on the left side.

May 23, 2016 - 18:46

Camden Butler

Why live?

May 23, 2016 - 18:49

Austin Edwards

Alright, I'm coming bucko.

May 23, 2016 - 18:50

Wyatt Price

...

May 23, 2016 - 18:51

Kevin Gray

COMING BUCKO!

May 23, 2016 - 18:51

Joseph Johnson

BASED JIMMY
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May 23, 2016 - 18:52

Ryan Walker

AYYY

May 23, 2016 - 18:52

Michael Richardson

fug, you even got a qt between you two.

May 23, 2016 - 18:53

Charles Wright

I noticed that too.

She is pretty qt 3.14

May 23, 2016 - 18:54

Gabriel Hernandez

Fuck, you've gotta tell us more about this later!

May 23, 2016 - 18:55

Jack Diaz

COMMISSAR JIMMY

May 23, 2016 - 18:56

Christian Bennett

...

May 23, 2016 - 18:57

Angel Sullivan

that's some dense black hair u got there, user

May 23, 2016 - 19:01

Chase Allen

Did you talk to him at all?

May 23, 2016 - 19:02

Justin Brooks

I agree. I find it disgusting.

Should be Hillary for guillotine.

May 23, 2016 - 19:03

Colton Harris

He's up on the press platform now. I want to get another one with the Red Flag. :(

May 23, 2016 - 19:13

Leo Jackson

I don't think gay male culture is really applicable to women dating men even if neither are straight, but cuddlebug bears are fucking god tier, but it's mostly twinks that I think are cute. It's the more feminine, gentle-looking men tat I really love. However, it's women I love the most. ♥

Congrats on the cutie! He sounds lovely. Has imaginado que habla espanol en la cama con el? ;-)

I'm done with the shenanigans now. I'm actually kind of averse to sex/sexuality chitchat.

May 23, 2016 - 19:17

Sebastian Clark

Fugg

At least you got to touch perfection

May 23, 2016 - 19:18

Bentley Morgan

ech

May 23, 2016 - 19:21

Connor Bell

JonTron is that you

May 23, 2016 - 19:22

James Gonzalez

Why live?

Oh and I never got together with that guy, I just really thought he was cute. I was going to graduate soon anyway. I've never had a proper relationship although I've gone on a couple dates.

hope I didn't make you feel uncomfortable, but thanks for the bantz. Also Hope you find your own qt to cuddle with one day user

May 23, 2016 - 19:38

Noah Jones

U guys can cuddle with me :3

May 23, 2016 - 19:41

Ethan Ward

Ok, hab a gay Internet cuddle user

May 23, 2016 - 19:44

Easton Roberts

Nothing gay about two guys cuddling. Cuddling is nice and cozy, not sexual >:(

May 23, 2016 - 19:45

Blake Barnes

Even when I'm nuzzling and kissing your neck for affection ;^)

May 23, 2016 - 19:48

Austin Russell

...

May 23, 2016 - 19:53

Jayden Smith

Nailed it.

May 23, 2016 - 19:59

Isaac Kelly

Ha!
WE GOT YOUR SOUL NOW, JIMMY!

Also, how was the event? Is it over yet?

May 23, 2016 - 20:03

Dylan Diaz

No, but I had to go. It was great.

May 23, 2016 - 20:06

Joshua Barnes

The central committee expects a longer report, comrade.

May 23, 2016 - 20:07

Owen Brooks

glorious

May 23, 2016 - 20:08

Brody Thomas

...

May 23, 2016 - 20:09

Lucas Walker

Tell us! Pls!

May 23, 2016 - 20:10

Kayden Morris

Education cuts :^)

May 23, 2016 - 20:12

Jaxon Clark

Kids holding signs saying "Please Fund Are Schools" and similar errors would make a great ad campaign, actually.

May 23, 2016 - 20:18

Jordan Gomez

Look at how dumb these kids are! Clearly schools aren't working. We should take funding away from them and give it to the job creators so we can give them training instead.

May 23, 2016 - 20:21

Benjamin Gomez

...

May 23, 2016 - 20:22

Matthew Cooper

FUTOR

May 23, 2016 - 20:24

Luis Powell

sad kek

May 23, 2016 - 20:24

Jayden Sullivan

TYT discovering imageboard culture

Trump's Troll Army Impersonating Bernie / Hillary Supporters Online

youtube.com/watch?v=HAlb45SmZWA

May 23, 2016 - 21:04

Ian Cruz

Jesus that's embarrassing.

May 23, 2016 - 23:02

Ryder Adams

*Nobody at TYT

May 23, 2016 - 23:02

Colton Carter

ive encountered many olds constantly asking why the alt right likes animu and is pepe antisemitic.

they really really dont get the internet

May 23, 2016 - 23:18

Camden Bailey

Let's make America great again by giving all our money to the Japanese economy!

May 23, 2016 - 23:34

Alexander Lopez

In fairness the alt-right is incredibly bizarre

May 23, 2016 - 23:55

Samuel Morris

The alt-right is an accelerationist conspiracy.

May 24, 2016 - 00:02

Justin Morales

What is it like for an old person to ask you if Pepe is anti-Semitic?

May 24, 2016 - 00:03

Adrian Collins

...

May 24, 2016 - 00:06

Levi Martin

GLORIOUS NIHON IS WHITE

May 24, 2016 - 00:07

Nathaniel Adams

tfw you used to think that blue collar old people who railed against "the japs" were racist but now you realize they were anti-fascists who were woke a f

May 24, 2016 - 00:09

Michael Reed

You now remember getting home from school just in time to watch Rurouni Kenshin

youtube.com/watch?v=CCDvefIO_08

what happened to this world, it used to be so simple.

May 24, 2016 - 00:21

Daniel Morgan

naganooch

May 24, 2016 - 01:29

Adrian Richardson

pole here, I haven't been watching news about US elections for some time fellow comrades.
What are the odds of Bernie winning the pre-elections?
Is it a lost cause? Is there a chance?

May 24, 2016 - 01:31

Brody Hernandez

not great

but it's looking increasingly likely that hillary is up for indictment because of her server/email shenanigans and if that happens chairman bernie becomes much more likely

May 24, 2016 - 01:34

Wyatt Reyes

Yes and yes.

May 24, 2016 - 01:34

Elijah Taylor

Primary, you mean? He's statistically eliminated, but still campaigning.

May 24, 2016 - 01:38

Liam Howard

Not great but still possible. The thing is we do the most populous state in the nation at the end of the primary cycle, so his success there could be game-changing.

May 24, 2016 - 01:45

Jonathan Brown

I can only imagine the rigging & BS behind the scenes going on within the Clinton camp, in California right now. I hate her so much, and those working to undermine Democracy, working with her.

May 24, 2016 - 03:34

Nolan Foster

Bernie or busters, have you taken the pledge yet?

citizensagainstplutocracy.wordpress.com/

May 24, 2016 - 04:27

Josiah Cox

This seems like a good resource for networking, guys:

brandnewcongress.org/

Check it out.

May 24, 2016 - 05:28

Angel Nelson

Bernie's only chance of winning is if the DNC picks him over Hillary. He's pushing the argument that he's more likely to beat Trump, which grows truer by the day. They'd probably prefer Trump to Sanders tbh, but they're all Hillary ass-kissers so they'll probably stay on the Titanic all the way down. Sanders is at least trying to shift the Overton window and alter the party's platform. He'll probably divert his campaign toward getting leftists elected down-ballot soon.

If Hillary gets indicted, the Democrats are more likely to hand-pick someone than let Bernie win. Either way it'll be a massive shitshow. There will be riots. There will probably be deaths due to excessive force. Brace for class war, because this may be the powder keg that sets it off. Anyone who cares even slightly about class knows the Republicans are fucking them, and if they see they can't go to the Democrats for help, they'll wake up an realize reforming the system just won't work. Buy guns.

May 24, 2016 - 05:33

Eli Murphy

what the fuck

May 24, 2016 - 05:36

John Williams

Kek.

I love how they don't get memes

May 24, 2016 - 05:41

Brayden Edwards

So Hillary has a (paid) troll army.
And Trump has a troll army.

Should we be Bernie's troll army?

May 24, 2016 - 05:42

Logan Lopez

You can if you want. If I see good ideas I might join in.

May 24, 2016 - 05:45

Charles Ward

The pose as Hillary supporters and post really obnoxious and patronizing shit

"Now hillary understands why so many black people get uppity! They haven't been given a fair chance to apply themselves and really work hard to get ahead! Well, Hillary's gonna change that! I'm with HER!"

May 24, 2016 - 05:50

Luis Rogers

...

May 24, 2016 - 05:54

Lincoln Taylor

...

May 24, 2016 - 06:08

Zachary Hughes

"It's clear! There is no other choice for latinos! So if you know what is good for you better show up in those voting booths!
Venecermos for Hill-dog, compadre :)"

May 24, 2016 - 06:11

Jaxon Parker

Gary Johnson

May 24, 2016 - 06:19

Brandon Rogers

I've been in the Bernie army ;) though not as a troll. I've been heavily involved online & countering bullshit narratives/slander they try to form against him & our movement.

I don't wish to be paid, though, for something I really believe in. :) I'll gladly do it for free.

May 24, 2016 - 06:30

William James

So, what do you say?

Time to be a little… Naughty?

May 24, 2016 - 06:33

Ayden Ramirez

"Give it up, Bernie bros, our candidate has over 3 MILLION votes than him. The people have clearly chosen - and they don't want your candidate! Sore losers! Bernie & Hillary voting record is almost exactly the same, except she can actually get things done! What has Sanders accomplished in his decades in Congress? Nothing! She is the only qualified candidate.Don't be stupid & hand the election to Trump! His economic policies are fairy tales."

As you can see, I deal with these shitheads regularly.

That was a great character

Yeah.. I find myself getting more & more less patient with these people, so it might be time to give them a taste of their own medicine..

May 24, 2016 - 06:42

Joseph Miller

So for the trolls, what are good targets for Hillary?

May 24, 2016 - 06:44

Jordan Phillips

Kek, I can tell.
You need to go with something that even normie will find obnoxious and stupid and even borderline offensive.

We can't mention these directly when pretending to be shill-bots, that would give us away. Rather, if you get into a debate, leave an opening as see if someone else raises those points and then basically shit yourself in the response.

May 24, 2016 - 06:48

Carter Peterson

Her defending a pedophile rapist who put a 12 yo in a coma, then laughing about it afterwards. She implies she knew he was guilty, too.

Being on the board of directors for Wal-Mart for 6 years, fighting against poor people getting decent wages.

Fighting against a minimum wage hike in Haiti.

Using private detectives & the IRS to target the women who accused Bill of rape. (They sure didn't "listen & believe", then.)

May 24, 2016 - 06:51

Robert Flores

Slutshaming Lewinsky and calling her crazy and hungry for attention.

May 24, 2016 - 06:53

Jonathan Brown

Not to forget that she supported the conservative anti-choice dictatorship in Honduras.

May 24, 2016 - 06:54

John Johnson

...

May 24, 2016 - 06:56

Austin Barnes

kek

May 24, 2016 - 07:01

Luke Parker

Here's a classic you might've already seen, but Based Cornell West goes all out for Bernie & why he's best for the black vote. He calls Hillary "the Mill Vanilli of politics", lmao. Calls out her rhetoric, Neoliberal black people pushing for her, Wall Street ties, etc.

youtube.com/watch?v=72-dEItC1pk

May 24, 2016 - 07:07

Sebastian Martinez

r/enoughsandersspam got upset & honored me with my own thread, lmao.

reddit.com/r/enoughsandersspam/comments/4kpupw/amazing_lil_berniebro_rant_its_a_fact/

Seriously guys, some threads on s4p have been unbearable lately. Usually after about 7 hours the upvotes weigh out the shit shill comments. But if you get to one they've chosen to bomb, early, it's disappointing. I wish the mods could do something about it. It affects morale.

May 24, 2016 - 07:34

Tyler Wood

youtube.com/watch?v=Z4F-MiQIGIU

TYT just covered it.

May 24, 2016 - 07:42

Camden Harris

...

May 24, 2016 - 11:35

Adam Powell

>youtube.com/watch?v=JrGlaUo4JEE
Thoughts on this Samantha Bee thing?

May 24, 2016 - 11:43

William Edwards

They are the western equivalent of the japanese netouyo, only with da joos instead of koreans.
The "alt-right" really seems bizarre, though, I'm not sure that basement dwelling neets with shit taste on animu are the idea of a "master race", or someone who would benefit from fascism on the first place.

May 24, 2016 - 12:00

Ian Cox

Man, they sure are shilling hard for the establishment.

May 24, 2016 - 12:03

Owen Jenkins

Makes it incredibly easy to decide which news organizations/personalities are worth ignoring though.

May 24, 2016 - 12:08

Zachary Sanders

Well I guess I know never to waste my time on this show. Thought Bee might be all right because she was one of the few semi-funny people still left on that shitshow just before Stewart retired and managed to escape the horrors of Trevor Noah. But nope.

May 24, 2016 - 12:11

Justin Young

Man Noah is awkward as fuck. He seems like he's in physical pain when he tells jokes.

May 24, 2016 - 12:13

Austin Butler

Wait, why do elections have to be this complicated?

May 24, 2016 - 12:21

Mason Williams

Some leftypol lad made this when I posted one of her videos last time. I was also disappointed by her. I hope the money was worth it.

May 24, 2016 - 12:24

Joshua Carter

Lots of half-truths and whole lies.

May 24, 2016 - 12:37

Mason Gray

Hillary is dogshit as a candidate.

May 24, 2016 - 12:39

Xavier Lopez

Take solace in that fact that the DNC will be too preoccupied squeezing Hillary into the White House to defend any of the down list candidates from the Berning fire.

She may get the Presidency, but we'll be taking her party.

May 24, 2016 - 12:53

Jaxson Long

BRING DOWN THE ESTABLISHMENT 2018! VOTE THE FUCKERS OUT!

TAKE DOWN DEBBIE!

May 24, 2016 - 12:55

Carter Torres

I'm not sure what these images are trying to convey

May 24, 2016 - 13:25

Noah Thomas

Trump has to flip three states in order to win and the one where he has to catch up the most ground, he only has to flip 2.6% or more.

May 24, 2016 - 13:28

Leo Howard

Oh! I see, thanks

May 24, 2016 - 13:31

Alexander King

To any leftypol friends in California, it's a great time to go out and canvass for Bernie! The volunteer opportunities are immense and you can check out Bernie's official website for more information. If Bernie wins big in California he will get the nomination.

May 24, 2016 - 13:54

Isaac Parker

smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=4054
o_O

May 24, 2016 - 14:53

Easton Sullivan

T H E M A T H
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May 24, 2016 - 14:59

Nathaniel Lee

OBEY
CONSUME
SLEEP

May 24, 2016 - 15:05

Christopher Watson

Holy fucking shit, based Zach.

May 24, 2016 - 18:50

Kevin Sanchez

This makes up for that shitty liberal Superman comic you did Zach.

May 24, 2016 - 18:52

Jeremiah White

‘Ronald’ Trump: Why 2016 Is Looking a Lot Like 1980

thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/05/24/ronald-trump-why-2016-is-looking-a-lot-like-1980.html?via=desktop&source=twitter

RONALD
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May 24, 2016 - 18:57

Carson Perez

Can we call him Ronald McDonald?

May 24, 2016 - 19:01

Dominic Brooks

This is perhaps what is so terrifying about Trump: expectations are so low, success will be easy.

Christ, I don't even know anymore. Maybe this country is lost beyond all hope.

May 24, 2016 - 19:14

Leo Bell

so that they airn't elections, silly

May 24, 2016 - 20:14

Oliver Brooks

youtube.com/watch?v=wGG3DJAALkw

May 24, 2016 - 20:15

Levi Flores

every time someone says trump cant be president i think of that scene from back to the future were marty tells that guy that Ronald Reagan was president and they dont believe him

May 24, 2016 - 20:48

Eli King

What I think is interesting is that they both lowered the bar. Reagan introduced neoconservatism and Trump is introducing populism

May 24, 2016 - 20:51

Hunter Miller

trust me, if trump becomes president and somehow does half a decent job the GOP will be sucking his dick for the next 50 years like they did to the gipper, and the ones who hated him and tried to stop him will pretend like they were on the trump train the whole time

May 24, 2016 - 20:59

Levi James

Breaking news, proof of Hillary violating FEC rules by fundraising before announcing her candidacy: twitter.com/bad_bad_bernie/status/735343780224741377

May 24, 2016 - 23:45

Gavin Hughes

Astrology Ronnie got lucky for the most part, things went his way in diplomatic relations so people clung to him because everyone was still afraid of the late USSR (and for decent reasons since by then it was an unpredictable self-contradictory witch's brew of neoliberalism and planned economy; at least Stalin was consistent). His oratory skills from his acting career also helped after Nixon and Carter made the position of president seem impersonal and uncaring.

Trump, meanwhile, is piggybacking off of blatantly nonexistent issues: immigration in the US is widely misunderstood, both legal and illegal, and the migrant crisis of Europe is the EU's own little dilemma, nothing with bearing on us over the Atlantic.

May 25, 2016 - 00:39

Connor Gutierrez

youtu.be/SR5BfQ4rEqQ?t=2m

May 25, 2016 - 00:52

Lucas Murphy

What if Trump actually sticks to some of his promises, like shutting off free trade, immigration, and military adventurism? The entire modern corporate neoliberal capitalist system would implode if, like in the 1930s-1970s, it had to contend with a restricted labor market and industrial regulation enforced by a government that isn't a failed state. Along with neoliberalism in both parties, Trump's populism would wipe Reagan's neoconservative ideology from the Republican party.

Reagan got super lucky. NATO intelligence agencies were completely clueless as to what was happening behind the iron curtain. Both superpowers were buying so much military junk that if not for internal political tensions inside the USSR, the USA was teetering so close to bankruptcy under Reaganomics that we could've collapsed just like they did, sending the entire global economy into a nosedive.

May 25, 2016 - 01:00

Eli Rogers

Sounds plausible. Sauce?

May 25, 2016 - 03:14

Nathaniel Carter

fuck this world

May 25, 2016 - 04:03

Cooper Campbell

So this happened…
I really hate Milo, but I might hate these fuckers even more.
At one point they start yelling "Feel the Bern"

youtu.be/Pw-MnRyIoQY?t=47m25s

May 25, 2016 - 04:19

Cooper King

...

May 25, 2016 - 04:35

Colton Lopez

Seem like plants, to me. They're not making any arguments, just disrupting. Soros & Hillary strike again?

May 25, 2016 - 04:39

Camden Martin

Retards on both sides.

May 25, 2016 - 04:40

Julian Richardson

These sorts of people make me want to vote for Trump out of spite.

May 25, 2016 - 04:56

Michael Harris

Those were my first thoughts, but I also never doubt how stupid people can be either.
I was going to try and find info on the guy protesting.

May 25, 2016 - 05:01

Carter Roberts

Yeah, that'll show 'em!!

May 25, 2016 - 05:08

Ryder Price

Go ahead and vote for $hillary if that's what you want to do. If not, voting for Trump is your best bet if you want to keep her out of the white house.
I shouldn't have to explain to you why voting for Trump is better than voting for Hillary if you're a leftist.

May 25, 2016 - 05:16

Gavin Perry

I don't think there's anyone here who would consider this.

Porky is porky. You lose either way, there.

May 25, 2016 - 05:25

Jack Lopez

You're not seeing the big picture.

This isn't hard to figure out fam.

May 25, 2016 - 05:43

Jeremiah Hughes

like how everyone blamed the right for Reagan/Dubya's fuck-ups, right?
America is too classcucked to blame porky, not while le crony capitalism meme is still around

May 25, 2016 - 05:46

Christian Diaz

Very few people really like George W. Bush and the one's who do are just partisans who don't represent the majority of Americans.
As for Reagan, the only people who like him are old timers who are nostalgic when it comes to the 1980's. He's much less popular with Millennials.

May 25, 2016 - 05:49

Asher Perry

I'd rather not be to blame for any of this happening. And I'm through voting for the lesser evil. If anyone continues to do it, we'll continue to see these types of candidates.

May 25, 2016 - 05:51

Wyatt Wright

Hah, I like this twitter account.

May 25, 2016 - 05:51

Anthony Walker

Exactly, it was blamed more on Bush than "the right".

May 25, 2016 - 05:52

Isaac Jenkins

everyone continues*

May 25, 2016 - 05:53

Thomas Reyes

You can achieve this same end by voting independent or third party, only you actually gain something in the end.

May 25, 2016 - 05:55

Lucas Garcia

Well, I can respect that position because at least it's principled. With that said, I'll still vote for him to spite Hillary Clinton as well as her SJW cronies. Not to mention, if he's elected, we might see a resurgence of the old left, mainly because people on the left will be more likely to pick their battles instead of focusing on nonsense social issues.

The Bush era essentially turned the term "neoconservative" into a dirty word in American politics.

It's essentially splitting the vote. If you vote for Trump you're more likely to keep Hillary out of the white house than if you vote for the green party.

May 25, 2016 - 05:58

Jackson Martinez

Also, let me give you an example.
Say you have 7 people. 2 vote third party. 2 vote for Trump and 3 vote Hillary.
Assuming those 2 people who voted third party would have voted for Trump had it been the only option, Trump would have beat Hillary. However, in this case, the people who voted third party essentially gave the election to Hillary by not voting for Trump.

May 25, 2016 - 06:02

Nathan Thomas

Please don't be like webm related. Choose who you think is best for the job. Vote for someone instead of just against someone.

May 25, 2016 - 06:03

Jonathan Williams

I'd rather get 3rd party to 5% than keep Shillary out of the White House. It's not like Bernie supporters are going to sudoku within the next 4 years.

May 25, 2016 - 06:05

Caleb Thompson

Except the difference is the fact that his main reason for voting for Trump is to trigger SJW's. I mainly just consider it to be a bonus/silver lining when you factor in everything else.
Well, I can at least respect that line of thinking, even if I don't find it to be politically strategic.

If Hillary gets elected it will mark the death of the left for the next couple of decades. After her first two terms are over we'll probably get a reactionary who will make Donald Trump look tame by comparison.

May 25, 2016 - 06:10

Eli Gomez

The point of getting that 5% is to break the 2 party dichotomy though so you don't end up with a 2 party dichotomy system.

May 25, 2016 - 06:22

Christian Edwards

If Trump gets elected, what prevents him from causing the death anti-establishment sentiments, and having people rush back to the former establishment neoliberalists?

May 25, 2016 - 06:26

Blake Bailey

...

May 25, 2016 - 06:45

Kevin Garcia

Ive said it before, if trump wins it would wreck the democratic party hard and force it to go soul searching.
I see two outcomes if trump wins on how it would effect the DNC.

1.Either they blame bernie and double down on the corporate third way neoliberlism

2,They have a wake up call and realize that the young people are far more left and socialist and reform themselves to cater to this new base

The outcome if clinton wins: victory for the oligarchy, the dark age of globalist third way establishment politics continues while the working class continues to be drained of their life blood, more wars in the middle east, more bailout for bankers, more trade deals that outsource jobs, more mass immigration

May 25, 2016 - 07:21

Justin Ortiz

Most likely this.
I see zero indication of them giving a fuck.
They'll try and paint him as Nader like they are already trying to do.

May 25, 2016 - 07:30

Liam Hernandez

...

May 25, 2016 - 07:30

Wyatt Fisher

This. When you can't win, you can't win. It might be time to make a strategic retreat and bide our time instead of making a huge gamble and praying on optimistic hopes. Even if Hillary wins, the movement could still pick up momentum during midterms instead of attempting to blow everything up. Trump winning may make any neoliberal representative seem like a good choice.

May 25, 2016 - 07:37

Anthony Lee

Thank you Holla Forums for supporting Trump.

Not voting for Hillary means Trump wins.

May 25, 2016 - 07:41

Charles Reyes

No, Hillary being a shit candidate means Trump wins.

May 25, 2016 - 07:43

Brandon Baker

Yes, and Sanders can't even beat a shit candidate.

Looks like Trump has this one in the bag.

May 25, 2016 - 07:47

James Hall

Sanders can't beat a shit candidate within the democratic party.
A huge chunck of the American population are not members of either the republicans or democrats and thus cannot actually vote in the primaries.

This is why he always wins open primaries.

May 25, 2016 - 07:49

Andrew Torres

It's hard to beat someone when they weren't holding a contest in the first place.

May 25, 2016 - 07:49

Austin Bailey

Well, following that logic, he should go Third party then.

That means Sanders should give up huh?

May 25, 2016 - 07:50

Josiah Thomas

Not what I said at all, my little redditor.

May 25, 2016 - 07:51

Joshua Hernandez

A Trump presidency would probably be the most fun considering how illiterate both him and his "votary" are.

May 25, 2016 - 07:52

Noah Walker

So what did you mean?

Sanders is not actually in contest with Hillary Clinton?

May 25, 2016 - 07:52

Julian Watson

Yes, so please vote for him and have fun.

May 25, 2016 - 07:53

David Brown

It's pretty obvious what I meant.

May 25, 2016 - 07:53

Grayson Perez

Bitch, I hate fun; don't you understand? Some people have to work and study instead of participate in your memery.

May 25, 2016 - 07:55

Noah Wilson

I said Sanders can't even beat a shit candidate.

You said they weren't even holding a contest.

But in reality they do, Sanders is in contest with Hillary for the nomination.

May 25, 2016 - 07:56

Christian King

And these people have to lose the election.

All work and no play make Jack a dull boy.

May 25, 2016 - 07:57

Jason Russell

So what's the plan if Clinton or Trump wins? Can we finally start the revolution?

May 25, 2016 - 08:02

Joseph Edwards

no play? what instruments doth thee posses?
prepare to square! i shall heave the gorge on thy livings, naughty mushrump!

May 25, 2016 - 08:07

Ryan Allen

If trump wins it's just business as usual for the two bourgeois parties.

May 25, 2016 - 08:20

Ryder Wood

lol

May 25, 2016 - 08:21

Nathan Richardson

I don't understand.

I play the Trumpet.

May 25, 2016 - 08:23

Charles Cooper

anything, obviously

May 25, 2016 - 08:24

Brody Martin

I'd wait until PROMESA either passes or doesn't. If PROMESA passes it's the perfect opportunity for socialist revolution in Puerto Rico.

May 25, 2016 - 08:44

Elijah Jones

Trumpets sound like farts.

May 25, 2016 - 09:15

Dominic Martin

...

May 25, 2016 - 09:19

Kevin Nelson

They aren't holding a contest. The winner was decided long ago.

May 25, 2016 - 09:33

Camden Jones

Haha I dont know who this character is but he looks like he is made of CHEESE!

May 25, 2016 - 09:34

Oliver Jenkins

Must be all the holes and the jpeg artifacts.

May 25, 2016 - 09:43

Landon Perry

Friendly reminder that Clinton has won 13 out of the 19 open primaries in this election season. Independents are a laughable inconsequential minority.

May 25, 2016 - 09:56

Brody Stewart

Please, please have Hillary say this on national TV.

May 25, 2016 - 09:59

Hudson Moore

Okay, faggot

May 25, 2016 - 10:04

Jordan Wilson

Going to a Bernie Sanders rally, should I wear my USSR shirt?

May 25, 2016 - 10:36

Dylan Thomas

Maybe something like this:

May 25, 2016 - 10:47

Jace Butler

no

May 25, 2016 - 10:48

Ethan Sanders

Not a good idea, but then again they already call him a Commie. You might want to wear something that literally states workers should own the means of production. USSR isn't what one would call the best example. [spoiler]If it's pre-Stalin then maybe though. Yeah, I need to history more.[/;spoiler]

May 25, 2016 - 10:48

Juan Evans

Got the perfect shirt then

pic related

May 25, 2016 - 10:53

Robert Morales

Doesn't surprise me coming from a $hillbot.

May 25, 2016 - 11:03

Michael Jackson

Now take the Deep South out of that figure and don't count margins of less than 3 percent.

May 25, 2016 - 11:08

John Gonzalez

Remember that revolution (and socialism itself I might add) starts at a grassroots level.

May 25, 2016 - 11:11

Hudson Jenkins

I've a feeling you'll still need to explain that. With that it should be easier though.

Funnily enough, even Milo Monopoly even says their a vocal minority, that just happens to have power in the media and stuff.

May 25, 2016 - 11:11

Easton James

excuse me

May 25, 2016 - 11:16

Jacob Ward

W-Who has power in the media?

May 25, 2016 - 11:16

Juan James

What is that fucker smoking

May 25, 2016 - 11:18

Adam Ramirez

Why on Earth would you listen to him, though.

May 25, 2016 - 11:34

Luis Morris

It's a way of poking fun at him while still economic about it. I'm actually laughing my ass off now. It sounds fucking hilarious. Part of me wonders if it might actually end up being an accurate description of him in the future.

Rich people. Duh.

Odd, I had the impression that reactionary identity politicians had a loyalty boner for the democ-rat party.

Someone has to BTFO college liberals fam. I'll gladly listen to lefties do it too you know. Also, it's like watching the world burn. Who doesn't want to see that? ;^)

May 25, 2016 - 11:41

Jason Roberts

latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-socialists-20160525-snap-story.html
Kys if you do this
In other news have the CEO of Disney pulling a Verizon and going "muh job creators" while being fellated by high level executives seeking raises.

May 25, 2016 - 11:57

Josiah Perez

Also it pisses me off when people look at any issue like foreign policy so unilaterally. You've got people attacking Zizek for pointing out there's better for Syria than letting them all leave and come to Europe and from the same pretentious, unlearned and completely unread airbags you'll hear that Sanders is an imperialist because he can acknowledge that rarely interventionism can be the answer (ironically both of which apply to the other guy).

May 25, 2016 - 12:03

Lincoln Long

washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/23/hillary-clinton-hits-trump-temper-shes-no-picnic/?page=all

May 25, 2016 - 12:16

Joseph Brown

Let's give her the nuclear code!

May 25, 2016 - 12:20

Bentley Hill

If she manages to get the job it's going to be one crisis after another. I hope someone gets it on camera like what was Romney's downfall.

May 25, 2016 - 12:22

Ryder Myers

I want to believe.

May 25, 2016 - 12:22

Jose Watson

It's exactly what she did in '08

May 25, 2016 - 12:25

Brandon Sanders

Considering this information, I think that Hillary is even more dangerous than Trump. Keep in mind that I would not vote for either of them since they are both fairly shit.

May 25, 2016 - 12:27

Cooper Johnson

Kek it's '08 all over again

May 25, 2016 - 12:30

Bentley Barnes

you're a massive faggot and should kill yourself

May 25, 2016 - 12:55

Kevin Miller

Christ dude nobody gives a shit. Mod pls ban this dipfuck

May 25, 2016 - 12:59

Adrian Hughes

youtube.com/watch?v=Vu_f3nLH5Ug

May 25, 2016 - 13:02

Justin Nelson

At least you've taken your name off now.

t. not that guy

May 25, 2016 - 13:02

Samuel White

...

May 25, 2016 - 13:03

Jaxson Smith

Ironically, Trump is actually the one that is the lesser of two evils. Milo and his other fanboys will either stop supporting him and realize they've been had, or they'll double down on their crockery.

May 25, 2016 - 13:03

Blake Martin

Sauce of this?

May 25, 2016 - 13:03

Andrew Clark

Fall of Eagles with Patrick Stewart

May 25, 2016 - 13:06

Joshua Williams

Is this Dr. Xavier?

May 25, 2016 - 13:07

Jason Cruz

Patrick Stewart played as Lenin?

May 25, 2016 - 13:11

Parker Lee

...

May 25, 2016 - 13:16

Tyler Gonzalez

Yes

May 25, 2016 - 13:23

Nicholas Sanders

foxnews.com/politics/2016/05/25/hacker-who-claims-breached-clinton-server-pleads-guilty-strikes-deal-with-feds.html

assets.documentcloud.org/documents/2842429/ESP-16-03-Final.pdf
Office of the Secretary: Evaluation of Email Records Management and Cybersecurity Requirements

reddit.com/r/politics/comments/4l052h/megathread_state_department_email_audit_re/

May 25, 2016 - 13:57

Blake Barnes

People like this are part of the reason we should vote for Trump. Also this:

May 25, 2016 - 14:07

Xavier Hughes

Indictment soon fellow gommies

May 25, 2016 - 14:10

Owen Rogers

No thanks, Holla Forums

May 25, 2016 - 14:33

Samuel Flores

If I were a betting man..

May 25, 2016 - 14:36

James Brown

csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/Decoder/2016/0525/New-IG-report-on-Hillary-Clinton-e-mail-What-s-the-impact
archive.is/8arSG
New IG report on Hillary Clinton e-mail: What's the impact?
look at all this fucking desperation

May 25, 2016 - 14:38

Samuel Bell

thehill.com/homenews/campaign/271238-clinton-chief-attacks-state-dept-watchdog

FULL
DAMAGE
CONTROL

May 25, 2016 - 14:41

Hunter Bell

Those deleted comments tho.

May 25, 2016 - 14:47

Ethan Jones

First-past-the-post voting makes it impossible for a third party to win.
Also, he'd be locked out of debates and news coverage.
That would be even more useless.

May 25, 2016 - 15:02

David Thomas

c-span.org/video/?410161-1/state-department-briefs-hillary-clinton-email-audit&live=
The video.

It starts at about 3 minutes in, if anyone hasn't seen it yet. This is about to get good, guys. They're saying that Hillary didn't seek approval for her private server.. And if she had sought approval, it would have been denied. I'm only about 7 mins in so far..

May 25, 2016 - 15:04

Asher Rogers

OhgodOhgodOhgod

May 25, 2016 - 15:05

Dylan Allen

The Hill has been doing this an awful lot lately. I think it might be pro-Hillary comments being deleted, lmao. Probably CtR trying to throw lies into the mix & see if they stick, but are being deleted accordingly.

May 25, 2016 - 15:07

Jaxon Martin

It just occurred to me that they might go forward with indicting Hillary just to exonerate her.

May 25, 2016 - 15:10

Matthew Russell

youtube.com/watch?v=I-FSw-lk4zw
someone tell Holla Forums

May 25, 2016 - 16:22

Ryan Jones

Hillary is, as well. TYT, Secular Talk & The Humanist Report have covered it.

May 25, 2016 - 16:25

Christopher Reyes

Possibly. Still, the damage this is going to do to her already historically low favorability polls, will be very real.

May 25, 2016 - 16:27

Gavin Nguyen

Dude, Sheldon fucking Adelson backed Trump and they quickly deployed their cognitive dissonance to ignore it.
Holla Forums is fully cucked to Trump's personality at this point.

May 25, 2016 - 16:28

Bentley Nelson

...

May 25, 2016 - 16:29

Kayden Sanders

Has Holla Forums commented on this?

thehill.com/policy/defense/280402-trump-meets-with-former-nixon-adviser-henry-kissinger

May 25, 2016 - 16:45

Mason Lopez

The difference is that Trump is a billionaire, and is not reliant on those contributions in a way that career politicians like Shillary and ¡El Jeb! are.

If you don't have an independent source to fund yourself (i.e. an exceptionally successful grassroots campaign, or your own wealth) you're pretty much at the mercy of the megadonors that can drop $10 million - $100 million to get you in power. You're their bitch, and they expect you to play ball as needed.

Also Holla Forums already knows about this, we've had you fucks and Holla Forums shills posting 24/7 about how kosher Trump is and just wait for Hitler bro

May 25, 2016 - 16:57

Jose Lopez

Lmao. Cry more.

May 25, 2016 - 17:05

Adam Powell

Newflash: Those "shills" are other Holla Forumsacks trying to point out your stupidity.

May 25, 2016 - 17:11

Austin Bailey

What stupidity?

Trump is the presumptive nominee now that he's only what, ten delegates away from the 1237? The donor class may disagree with Trump on a lot of things, but even they don't want to be left out in the cold in the event of a Trump presidency.

The only fuckwits concerned about this are purist armchair-revolutionaries that think Queen Hillary will kick off the Nazi masturbation fantasy - and are generally the same "worse is better" armchair-revolutionaries that thought Obama would do the same

May 25, 2016 - 17:39

Jacob Baker

Uh huh.

May 25, 2016 - 17:51

Aaron Sanchez

It baffles how incredibly quick Holla Forumsacks started sucking Trump's dick.
Like, fuck, someone panders a little to them and they follow him unconditionally.

May 25, 2016 - 17:55

Eli Diaz

Its really fun reading the hillary shills having meltdowns across the internet claiming the email stuff doesnt matter.
God, i hope bernie wins california just to twist the knife a bit more

May 25, 2016 - 18:07

Chase Murphy

The stupidity of thinking Trump would be different from any other establishment candidate.

Trump is his own donor class, user. And he has many donor friends. Both business & political. That is the world he lives in. Don't think for one second he either knows what the average American life is, or how that he gives one shit about us peasants.

May 25, 2016 - 18:09

Carson Peterson

Don't bother, lad.

May 25, 2016 - 18:14

Jackson Carter

Trump isn't his own donor class. He is literally just a part of the donor class, i.e. the bourgeoisie.

May 25, 2016 - 18:14

Carson Walker

...

May 25, 2016 - 18:18

Levi Johnson

Trump is a traitor to his class, he tapped into white working class anger for the ivory tower ivy league edcuated elties who have look down thier nose on white poor people and think they are dumb rednecks and are worthless while also accusing them of racisim and exploited it very well

May 25, 2016 - 18:19

Grayson Sullivan

Sure thing, baby boy.

May 25, 2016 - 18:20

Eli Jackson

This gave me a chuckle.

May 25, 2016 - 18:27

Elijah Hernandez

...

May 25, 2016 - 18:28

Matthew Robinson

Its true, the white liberal elite despise the white working class, they are globalists who dont care about working class rights anymore, only idpol.
They have been sneering at the white working class for decades now "YOU ARE WORTHLESS, YOU ARE OBSOLETE, WE ARE GOING TO REPLACE YOU WITH SHITSKINS, YOU ARE RACIST, YOU SHOULD FEEL GUILT FOR EVERYTTTTTTHING"

Then trump drives up and is all "get in the car faggot we're going to make america great again"

May 25, 2016 - 18:28

David Sullivan

Lmao, thanks user. I've been up all night.

May 25, 2016 - 18:28

Brandon Allen

Spooky

May 25, 2016 - 18:30

Cooper Reyes

It has its moments. I was actually surprised to see they devoted a megathread on /politics/ for the emails. It's got some good info in there.

I think we can all agree that Hillary getting fucked as thoroughly as possible is good for everyone.

May 25, 2016 - 18:31

Mason Powell

Fixed.

May 25, 2016 - 18:33

John Taylor

SANDERS IS FINALLY ASKING FOR RECOUNTS
reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-kentucky-idUSKCN0YF2FK

Hopefully he'll ask for recounts all over past dirty races, especially in big states that actually matter like New York, Florida, and Texas. I recall polls indicate he would actually win the nomination if he got enough recounts.

Just look over this article:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_position_of_the_United_States

Debt grew explosively under Reagan/Bush 1, the need for more cash to stave off collapse was so dire that interest payments throughout the economy reached unheard of levels only exceeded at the nadir of the 2009 recession.

In particular, interest rates on T-bills skyrocketed so fast under Reagan that debt service went from 6% to an incredible 15% of federal spending by 1988. At that rate, combined with other NATO partners that were also borrowing like crazy, we could've saturated the entire global credit market in short order and crashed all the economy in a catastrophic credit crunch. Also, economics aside, Reagan's bellicosity was increasing the frequency of "near misses", dramatically raising the chance of a hot WWIII, or at least a limited direct military engagement.

There's no way Sanders could lose California, the only question is if he'll win big.

May 25, 2016 - 18:35

Oliver Kelly

Spooky

May 25, 2016 - 18:36

Anthony Hill

Too bad the deadlines passed ages ago.

Not rigged tho :^)

May 25, 2016 - 18:37

Isaiah Hall

No, its the white liberal elites, the same who care about 3rd world nigger babies but despise an impoverished white person from america for being a redneck

May 25, 2016 - 18:37

Benjamin Richardson

kek they care as much about that as Trump cares about taco salads
I.E not at all just a publicity stunt

May 25, 2016 - 18:39

Lincoln Bailey

Spooky

May 25, 2016 - 18:39

Christian Phillips

Talk about ass-covering. They've spent the past several months not only protecting shills but doing everything they can to try and downplay anything anti-clinton. With a megathread they keep it all contained and under careful supervision so that the narrative can't get too out of hand :^)

May 25, 2016 - 18:41

Luis Rogers

Well, why support any candidate? Oh right, it's the fatalism of the revolutionary "nothing can be done until the uprising because THE SYSTEM MAN"

So the alternative is what, fantasising about the proles/stormfags simultaneously rising up to overthrow the elites/jews?

May 25, 2016 - 18:42

Gavin Nguyen

See, by thinking it's all about race, you're doing the same thing idpol is about. The real issue is about class, rather than race.

May 25, 2016 - 18:45

Ethan Gray

end yourself forthwith butt plunderer

May 25, 2016 - 18:45

David Rodriguez

Okay faggot

May 25, 2016 - 18:49

Logan Peterson

Reminder that Trump's "white working class" support is a myth.

May 25, 2016 - 18:50

Landon Nguyen

It's not just the same thing as idpol, it's idpol. Obsessing about niggers or the white race or racial purity or whatever the fuck is identity politics, plain and simple. It's like saying Republicans aren't political because Democrats are. It makes no damn sense.

May 25, 2016 - 18:55

James King

Does it really matter that much whether or not it's real? If, with or without Sanders'/Trump's presidential support, it causes the working class to find their balls again and start agitating against offshoring/immigration, rediscovering unionism in short order, will any politician's stance against them make a difference?

May 25, 2016 - 18:57

Eli Bell

Agreed. I was trying to explain it gently.

May 25, 2016 - 19:06

Ayden Wilson

A bad politician will try to divert the anger and dissatisfaction from porky to a powerless minority. Bernie is the only one aiming at the real guilty party.

Daily reminder that if corporations didn't try increasing profits by hiring illegal aliens, the "crisis" wouldn't exist.

May 25, 2016 - 19:12

Christian Myers

You mean like that time the Republican Party was a third party?

May 25, 2016 - 19:17

Nicholas Young

RIP Whigs

May 25, 2016 - 19:22

Christopher Gomez

CtR has released their talking points for damage control.

correctrecord.org/5-takeaways-from-the-state-oig-report/

May 25, 2016 - 19:42

William Richardson

...

May 25, 2016 - 19:51

Thomas Jenkins

...

May 25, 2016 - 19:52

Logan Ward

Republicans didn't do shit until the Whigs collapsed.

May 25, 2016 - 19:55

Jack Sullivan

If you bring up any of his Jewish connections on Holla Forums you get your thread bumplocked and a ton of saged replies

May 25, 2016 - 20:06

Henry Sullivan

SAFE SPACE
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May 25, 2016 - 20:39

Carter Foster

There's a giant light up sign on the I-405 S now that says VOTE BERNIE.

May 25, 2016 - 20:47

Gavin Price

And yet they believe he truly cares about building a wall

TRUMP 2016: MAKE Holla Forums CUCKS AGAIN

May 25, 2016 - 20:52

Nicholas Kelly

Looks like you lefties were too focused on seizing the means of production that you forgot to seize this GET

May 25, 2016 - 21:19

Blake Morales

...

May 25, 2016 - 21:20

Adrian Brooks

...

May 25, 2016 - 21:24

Carson Fisher

It's happening!

May 25, 2016 - 22:03

Evan Hill

COMIN BUCKO

May 25, 2016 - 22:06

Luke Russell

This should be pretty good television tbh

May 25, 2016 - 22:08

Luke Gomez

Holy shit did that pussy actually agree to it this time? This has to have Hillary furious.

May 25, 2016 - 22:10

Charles Nelson

I imagine that he feels secure in his position and it undermines Clinton's image. he assumes he's running against her now.

May 25, 2016 - 22:12

Cooper Baker

What are the chances that clinton gets roped into it as well?

May 25, 2016 - 22:13

Julian Scott

Trump probably won't allow it

May 25, 2016 - 22:15

Brody Martinez

this time?

I doubt it. This is all being setup to make Hillary look like a weaker candidate.

May 25, 2016 - 22:20

Nicholas Roberts

That sucks. I really want that cunt getting it from both sides.

May 25, 2016 - 22:22

Julian Edwards

I could do without that mental image, thanks.

May 25, 2016 - 22:23

Daniel Morgan

...

May 25, 2016 - 22:25

Nicholas Fisher

What? Seriously? What's in it for Trump? I remember some people discussing that it would be pointless for Trump to debate Bernie because he wouldn't want to distance Bernie's supporters.

Makes sense, it's actually kind of an absolute madman move from Trump. By having the debate he's drawing attention to the fact that she backed out of her promise to debate. Now's she either stays out and gets grilled for being cowardly, or she quickly tries to rearrange the debate with Bernie, and Trump forces her to keep fighting with Bernie and weaken her image.

May 25, 2016 - 22:27

Jackson Foster

What to attack Trump on during the debate:

anything else?

May 25, 2016 - 22:32

Jordan Mitchell

His muslim ban and rhetoric about "closing up the internet" is outright unconstitutional

May 25, 2016 - 22:34

Adrian Nguyen

AWWW SHIIIT

cbsnews.com/news/trump-tells-kimmel-hed-be-willing-to-debate-sanders-for-charity/

May 25, 2016 - 22:41

Dylan Russell

Trump already has the GOP nomination locked up, even if he lost a debate to bernie it means nothing.
But if trump did debate bernie it would get a shit load of publicity, especially for bernie.
And then bernie would lose California.
This will deepen the schism in the DNC.
Trump is playing everyone like a fiddle.
Even if he loses, he wins.

May 25, 2016 - 22:57

Thomas Baker

Holla Forums most of all ;^)

May 25, 2016 - 22:58

Ryan Turner

>>>Holla Forums6118022

Game on.

May 25, 2016 - 23:00

Ayden Foster

I agree. Hillary's day just got worse.

May 25, 2016 - 23:01

Gabriel Bennett

There's a limit to how delusional you can be.

May 25, 2016 - 23:02

Carter Campbell

There are some risks:

He might alienate the Bernie-crowd if he isn't careful. He'll need a lot of those people if he wants to turn Florida, Ohio and Pennesylvania, which he'll have to do in order to win. see

If anything, he sould use this oppotunity to gang up upon Hillary with Bernie. That might help him in the General, if Bernie is not his opponent.

Such a partnership would of course also help Bernie as it put a camera on him and they get to shit on Hillary, which makes his chances in California better.

May 25, 2016 - 23:07

Christopher Martinez

Plus this makes Hillary look really really irllvant

May 25, 2016 - 23:09

Brody Powell

...

May 25, 2016 - 23:11

Alexander Gonzalez

I'm actually genuinely expecting this, at least in article form. There's no way they wouldn't try and spin it as "both Trump and Bernie prove that Hillary is the best candidate by being terrible misogycommies"

May 25, 2016 - 23:16

Carter Price

I think this video sums up trumps game plan nicely

youtube.com/watch?v=MYtjpIwamos

May 25, 2016 - 23:28

William Baker

youtube.com/watch?v=b9PNE4BMluk

The Kimmel interview with Trump. Debate part at 13 minutes in. Apparently it was Bernie who made the offer to Trump, and Trump seems to accept. I hope the media runs with this, so Trump feels an obligation.

May 25, 2016 - 23:34

Justin Phillips

...

May 25, 2016 - 23:50

Isaac Nguyen

I hoped they'd devote some time to tag-teaming Hillary, but somebody in the Holla Forums thread proposed something even better. Sanders subtly eggs Trump into dissing Sanders by noting that he's soft on Hillary, Trump dumps on Hillary from Sanders' standpoint IN ADDITION to Trump's own. Hillary gets roasted "by Sanders", but Sanders emerges squeaky clean.

Either possibility is win/win.

May 25, 2016 - 23:57

Nathaniel Baker

how will the media spin this?

"Bernie and Trump vocally rape Hillary Clinton in a debate she didn't attend!"

"Misogynistic duo keep Hillary from debate."

"Hillary crushes latest debate by staying out and staying strong against deceptive attacks made by Bernie and Trump."

May 26, 2016 - 00:10

Jonathan Hernandez

Bernie shouldn't have a problem as long as he doesn't take the bait like Rubio did.

May 26, 2016 - 00:45

Adam Long

"Bernie working with Republican frontrunner to undermine the Democratic party" is probably the angle pro-Hillary articles would actually take.

May 26, 2016 - 01:01

Nathaniel Cooper

They will prolly run "Bernie Sanders is really a Republican. He was even in a Republican debate."

May 26, 2016 - 01:08

Jaxon Moore

Breaking News: Bernie Sanders, who say he is socialist, is more precisely natiоnal sоcialist.

May 26, 2016 - 01:21

Logan Butler

CNN: DID BERNIE SANDERS SEND HIS OWN FAMILY INTO DEATH CAMPS? MORE AT 11!

May 26, 2016 - 02:05

John Cox

We're coming buckos

May 26, 2016 - 03:40

Anthony Kelly

didn't see i was late. rip

May 26, 2016 - 03:41

Nicholas Miller

GAME ON

May 26, 2016 - 04:29

Joseph Jones

There was going to be a debate between the two at one point a few months ago but Trump chickened out.

May 26, 2016 - 04:43

Justin Harris

HAPPENING

May 26, 2016 - 04:51

Chase Taylor

This is probably going to be the most interesting political debate in American history.

May 26, 2016 - 04:51

Hudson Wood

I think it was just before the New York primary if I remember right.

May 26, 2016 - 04:54

Jonathan Hill

LATE-NIGHT TV SKETCHES ARE BECOMING REAL!

May 26, 2016 - 04:55

Asher Ward

The way the media is going to spin this is of course going to be that Sanders is trying to undermine Clinton in the General election.

May 26, 2016 - 05:10

Benjamin Murphy

I hope Sanders doesn't go too idpol during this as the rest of the media does when it comes to Trump.

May 26, 2016 - 05:13

Blake Howard

Or rather, I hope he doesn't fight Trump's idpol with more idpol.

May 26, 2016 - 05:15

Lucas Smith

This. Especially outright fabrications like the "wage gap". Though Trump might be too ignorant on the issues to know just how phony they are, instead dismissing them with generic blustery rhetorical handwaves.

May 26, 2016 - 05:16

Jordan Rivera

Debating the candidate both Hillary and the establishment have largely written off but who is still incredibly popular damages Hillary's prestige while simultaneously creating a media event no one can ignore.

For Trump it's a double whammy of dissing Hillary and creating a big event centered around himself, with the possible added benefit of putting more psychological pressure on Hillary since she now has to explain why the most popular Republican candidate would bother with someone "that can't possibly win" rather than her.

May 26, 2016 - 05:19

Jacob Thomas

This.
Donald Trump shows that he takes Bernie Sanders and his voters serious with this move. This makes him seem more welcoming towards them, unlike Hillary who won't even bother with him.
It might win Trump a few anti-establishment votes and supress the Democratic support for Hillary even further.
On Bernie's part, it gives him more legitimacy as a candidate who can go up against the republicans.
It's a clever move on both ends.

May 26, 2016 - 05:25

Nicholas Perez

Pol really is an interesting case study. No matter how much Trumpenstien does wrong, they will probably still support him.

I think it should have been obvious from the start. He is a businessman after all. Even if he doesn't win the presidency, he will actually become a billionaire. In Bernie's case, lolberts are calling him a 'war profiteer' on the meer fact that there was at least one war he couldn't vote against. That one being the one related to sending supplies to troops in the Iraq war. What they don't realize is that the troops were already there. If he would've voted against it, he would've been seen as someone who doesn't care about the troops. That and you know, some interventions are unfortunately necessary.

All Bernie needs to do is tell them ol Trumpepe takes shekeldollars from big doners like Sheldon meddlesome.

It's a shame. I thought Trump would be the 'brave one' and be the one to ask. Oh wells.

May 26, 2016 - 05:52

Levi Jackson

They'll probably be the last ones in the bunker when they hear the gunshot from his private quarters.

May 26, 2016 - 06:13

Isaac Fisher

M E M E
A
G
I
C

He may be a master ruseman and strategist but he's no policy wonk.

May 26, 2016 - 06:34

Charles Ortiz

...

May 26, 2016 - 07:01

Logan Sanchez

And now, salt:
reddit.com/r/enoughsandersspam/comments/4l3psf/what_bernie_sanders_on_twitter_game_on_i_look/

May 26, 2016 - 07:06

Carter White

nationalreview.com/nrd/articles/419957/adventures-national-socialism
nationalreview.com/article/421369/bernie-sanders-national-socialism
frontpagemag.com/point/261881/even-bernie-sanders-supporters-think-his-new-logo-daniel-greenfield

archive.is/omxT0
archive.is/3Wwx7
archive.is/UfQnw

May 26, 2016 - 07:07

Anthony Moore

The Democrats sabotaged themselves by backing a shit candidate like Hilliary.

May 26, 2016 - 07:11

Ian Martin

MUH

POPLAR

BOAT

May 26, 2016 - 07:15

Lucas Adams

HA holy shit

May 26, 2016 - 07:15

Hudson Bailey

you're an enthusiast of receiving rough sex from men and it's recommended that you end your life forthwith

May 26, 2016 - 08:15

Oliver Ross

...

May 26, 2016 - 08:46

Camden Powell

ebin

May 26, 2016 - 08:49

Sebastian Kelly

I kind of want that t-shirt

May 26, 2016 - 08:51

Colton James

Man that's cuckeririffic.

May 26, 2016 - 09:15

Lucas Rodriguez

I think that's the joke.

May 26, 2016 - 09:25

Julian Turner

thankadelegate.com/

Don't forget to sign! Thank the superdelegates from your state and show them your support in nominating Madam Hillary Clinton so they don't get swayed by the violent attacks of the Sanders mob.

May 26, 2016 - 09:44

Jaxon Young

Fuck, they actually compiled the list for us.

These people don't know what they're doing, man.

May 26, 2016 - 09:47

Jason Hill

tbh that will be a boring """debate""" to watch smh they need some diversity up there.

May 26, 2016 - 09:53

Owen Perez

Man that's a stupid fucking picture.

Hillary definitely should participate though.

May 26, 2016 - 09:58

Jeremiah Bailey

[NEW YORK GRANDPAS ARGUING]

May 26, 2016 - 10:05

Jackson Davis

Ayy

May 26, 2016 - 10:10

Carter Bailey

Look just saying but there's a reason Hill Shills have much nicer macros than Bernie supporters (for the most part), it's because they've got graphic designers cranking them out.

With the exception of @CitizensFedUp who has horrible design skill, who I think is just legit stupid.

May 26, 2016 - 10:10

Eli Morales

The Capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them

May 26, 2016 - 10:10

Christian Roberts

you're a massive faggot and should kill yourself

May 26, 2016 - 10:29

Jose Richardson

Reported. Have fun in banland, noob!

May 26, 2016 - 10:31

Andrew Perry

Actually just for that the trip is going back on. Eat shit faggot.

May 26, 2016 - 10:32

Gavin Jackson

you're a tremendous butt pirate and should end your life immediately

May 26, 2016 - 10:42

Landon Cooper

Thanks for the (You)s, cuck.

May 26, 2016 - 11:06

Josiah Sanders

you're an aids-ridden hulk and should willfully cease all life functions

May 26, 2016 - 11:16

Lincoln Barnes

If you didn't receive enough attention from your parents during your childhood, then you should go to the psychologist instead of attention whoring on cambodian internet forums

May 26, 2016 - 11:28

Caleb Davis

I'm not even attention whoring, the first response was a legitimate post and at this point I'm just trying to piss off brain dead shitters like you who actually care about trips. I swear it's like 2010 up in here.

May 26, 2016 - 11:32

Jack Wood

CtR trolls are now conflating personal email account with personal email server. I guess their new orders are to confuse people who don't know the difference.

May 26, 2016 - 11:34

Thomas Martin

...

May 26, 2016 - 11:37

Christian Roberts

youtube.com/watch?v=jJ03Nw7ohww

WEW

May 26, 2016 - 11:40

Isaiah Kelly

you're a massive faggot and should kill yourself

May 26, 2016 - 11:40

Charles Sanders

Quick, anyone got those Trump BTFO images? The ones where he sucks Jew dick….actually, no I don't want that specifically. You know what I mean.kek

May 26, 2016 - 11:42

Jordan Perez

...

May 26, 2016 - 11:47

Jace Green

Bill's phone must have been ringing off the hook!

But really, is there anyway to fact-check such a thing?

May 26, 2016 - 11:47

Chase Sanders

Yeah, that's the main thing I'm seeing right now, too. It's a shitty tactic & just makes her look like more of a liar. She must really be shitting the bed to not have a better defense to offer.

May 26, 2016 - 11:49

Gavin Long

...

May 26, 2016 - 11:50

Jack Green

Holy shit, does it really say that? Ah haha, the irony is palpable.

May 26, 2016 - 11:51

Camden Adams

...

May 26, 2016 - 11:52

Camden Hall

I've said multiple times that as soon as a flag related to the Lares revolt is added the name goes away.

May 26, 2016 - 11:54

Joshua Mitchell

Thanks fams.

May 26, 2016 - 11:54

Lucas Smith

Yeah, it said that the event inspired her to start it.

May 26, 2016 - 11:55

James Edwards

you're a massive faggot and should kill yourself

May 26, 2016 - 11:55

Isaac Nguyen

And how is tripfagging supposed to help?

May 26, 2016 - 11:56

Daniel Rodriguez

I took the trip off a while ago but I put it back on because it makes faggonegroes angry.

May 26, 2016 - 11:57

Caleb Nelson

Why do I keep getting a boner for her? God fucking damn.

May 26, 2016 - 11:57

Nicholas Brooks

No one gives a fuck, go ask for it in the feedback thread and stop being an attentionwhore.

May 26, 2016 - 11:57

Luis Russell

Uh.. hmm. I dunno if that's worse or better, lmao.

May 26, 2016 - 11:57

Jacob Bennett

So you're tripfagging for the sake of causing drama?

May 26, 2016 - 11:59

Hunter Murphy

you're a tripfagging retard and should kill yourself

May 26, 2016 - 12:00

Liam Walker

That is the real purpose of tripfagging, isn't it?

May 26, 2016 - 12:01

Dylan Brooks

Guys, guys.. Though some of the kill yourself posts are funny, this is /leftpol/, aren't we supposed to be better than giving a shit about someone tripfagging?

May 26, 2016 - 12:01

Landon Russell

k I'll go tell Freudfriend, Wobblyposter and Greenposter

At this point I just like seeing struggle with the post filter.

May 26, 2016 - 12:01

Xavier Cook

That's what I'm trying to say.

Actually, you're mostly right. I'd wager even Yui does it to piss people off.

May 26, 2016 - 12:04

Daniel Price

this

Holla Forums is what happens when memes colonize a human brain to the point that no other thoughts remain

they are memes in human suits

May 26, 2016 - 12:04

Julian Price

you're a sixteen year old faggot attention whore that is pretending not to be mad that people find you annoying and should kill yourself

May 26, 2016 - 12:05

Asher Russell

Evil and power can be appealing sometimes.

May 26, 2016 - 12:05

Jacob Young

Huh, you've been paying attention at least.
I literally don't care what two or maybe three subhuman mouthbreathers think of me. If I could add three more trips to make you four times as mad I would.

May 26, 2016 - 12:06

Asher Scott

Dude right?

May 26, 2016 - 12:07

Nolan Butler

you're a massive faggot and should kill yourself

May 26, 2016 - 12:08

Charles Reyes

Why do you think I'm angry? I've been using a mix of ignoring you and responding sarcastically to you. I've got more important shit to read than your gay posts.

May 26, 2016 - 12:09

John Cooper

Looks like Trump is serious if we can "raise $10 or 15 million for charity.. I'd love to debate Bernie"

snappytv.com/tc/2020585

May 26, 2016 - 12:48

Mason Evans

pick one and only one

May 26, 2016 - 12:59

Jacob Fisher

None of those people use a trip, and none of those people have an "identity" consisting of being an underage faggot asking for a fucking flag

May 26, 2016 - 13:17

Leo Smith

He means from the TV companies, right? Not donations.

May 26, 2016 - 13:19

Luke White

I'm starting to believe that Trump is a master Anarcho-Marxist who lives the way of accelerationism.

May 26, 2016 - 13:25

Julian Collins

Here comes the goalpost shifting.

May 26, 2016 - 13:57

Nolan Ross

...

May 26, 2016 - 14:09

Evan Hughes

This chickenshit is going to find an excuse to weasel out of debating again isn't he?

May 26, 2016 - 14:29

James Fisher

Looks like this is def happening. Trump said he would raise the $ through the profits from the views, not from contributions. They both seem eager. It will be unprecedented and it will help Bernie.

It shines major light on the fact that HRC went back on her promise and is a liar, Bernie gets easy hits on Trump which every "Unite Blue" dem loves, he will get a few Trade Deal/on fence independents to vote for him in CA open primary, and it will end the myth bernie can't beat trump or that he hasn't been "vetted". If HRC wins gems will see the HRC v. Trump debates compared to Bernie v. Trump debates. They will regret picking HRC who has so many skeletons in her closet.

May 26, 2016 - 14:39

Asher Jenkins

What are the chances that a bunch of supporters start fights at this thing?

May 26, 2016 - 14:43

Isaiah Rivera

TAKE MY ENERGY LORD KEK

May 26, 2016 - 14:44

Lucas Garcia

This debate is going to produce some top banter

May 26, 2016 - 14:48

Ayden Hernandez

I think saboteurs could be on this like white on rice.

But I would think both supporter's sides would want this to be an opportunity to show we're civil.

May 26, 2016 - 14:49

Chase Powell

...

May 26, 2016 - 14:50

Joseph Campbell

...

May 26, 2016 - 15:12

Ethan Watson

More like I just like seeing people get super angry.

What's so fucking horrible about a trip? I already told you it's just a stand in. We have other tripfags too. Pick on them you fucking autist.

May 26, 2016 - 15:38

Connor Anderson

They all have wacky personæ

May 26, 2016 - 15:48

Andrew Wood

you are a supermassive blackhole of faggotry and should kill yourself

May 26, 2016 - 16:09

Dylan Rivera

What makes you think I don't

May 26, 2016 - 16:13

Hudson Ramirez

IE attentionwhoring, see also: shitposting

May 26, 2016 - 16:13

Gabriel Bennett

NevadaGunOwner, one of the most prolific /r/politics commentators on the legal circumstances of the Hillary email scandal, got shadowbanned for calling the mods out on their "unintentional :^)" censorship of the forum in the form of their cluttered and unnavigable megathreads

May 26, 2016 - 16:40

Joshua Baker

Seeing as it's Reddit there is a 99.999% chance that someone who deserved it was banned by someone who should not be a moderator for any reason

May 26, 2016 - 16:42

Hudson Barnes

Eh, reddit has bots that will shadowban people for the most arcane reasons. He probably broke some mystery rule by accident.

May 26, 2016 - 16:45

Aaron Foster

The difference is he's not actually doing anything to piss them off. It's like someone tapping your shoulder, it's no big deal unless you're doing it specifically to piss them off, which is why it's hilarious that people get upset over something so trivial regardless of the circumstances. Now if he had a trip on and posted about how everyone who isn't a Maoist is a shithead.

May 26, 2016 - 16:46

Dylan Roberts

He's allegedly a journalist of some sort

May 26, 2016 - 16:47

Caleb Cruz

It's nice of you to show you can actually take your trip off once in a while.

May 26, 2016 - 16:48

Sebastian Hall

I guess I'm also the same person who said a couple of posts ago something along the lines of "I don't mind Lares guy".

May 26, 2016 - 16:50

Caleb Evans

No, that was me. :)

May 26, 2016 - 16:54

Luke Phillips

Probably

May 26, 2016 - 16:57

Charles Carter

He explicitly is though

May 26, 2016 - 16:57

Adrian Smith

The mods of /r/politics have been actively working to censor news and information that negatively effects Hillary, and have been giving carte blanche to obvious shills while silencing their detractors.

I just don't think given that sort of context this action toward someone that, while not explicitly anti-Clinton, has been providing legal context and information that clearly establishes the sort of illegal activity she's been accused of, should be overlooked.

Yeah, allegedly he's the owner of something like legalnews.com and MSNBC's legal contributor/commentator

May 26, 2016 - 17:05

Asher King

Holy shit, I I just went back & see it's a wasteland. I had been wondering why it was hard to follow & basically no discussion. The first day, there was some. This second day is nothing. Links, but no discussion. Comments being deleted left & right.

May 26, 2016 - 17:12

Jonathan Gonzalez

Once it gets past a certain amount of comments it just becomes impossible to navigate or really read in any meaningful way, much less discuss anything. It's a great way to hide deletions and bans, shadowbans, and just bury any useful information under a mountain of bullshit.

May 26, 2016 - 17:20

Colton White

To REASONABLY piss them off

May 26, 2016 - 17:31

Isaiah King

Lmao. The megathread, in two words.

May 26, 2016 - 17:36

Carson Young

...

May 26, 2016 - 17:37

Dominic Torres

The alt-right makes it hard to believe in free speech. They need to be gulag'd fast.

May 26, 2016 - 17:39

Owen Wright

You aren't even being coherent now, lad.

May 26, 2016 - 17:39

Eli Martin

I filtered him days ago. Namefags have nothing to contribute anyway.

May 26, 2016 - 17:40

Jaxson Baker

He's pissing himself off?

Yeah, I am. My point is that if all it takes to make some faggot go nuclear is add a trip then he needs to take a chill pill, regardless of the trip user's motivations for doing so. This is middle school tier civics which I guess you morons never got, you tell someone rudely to stop doing something and they're going to do it harder.

So you just religiously straight up out of principle filter everyone who doesn't worship your anonymous meme? Anonymity works pretty well when you're shitposting or providing a link or mostly just a lurker who posts like once a month, it's hardly much good otherwise.
Good thing you can't filter flags or you fuckers would police that too.

May 26, 2016 - 17:52

Nolan Robinson

You are grossly misjudging my emotional state
Seems like you're the only one going nuclear here

May 26, 2016 - 17:54

Angel Allen

back2reddit

May 26, 2016 - 17:55

Eli Gonzalez

Yes, I filter namefags on anonymous imageboards, because 100% of the time they are unsufferable attention whores.

May 26, 2016 - 17:57

Lincoln White

I got a new name and a new trip to prove my point that if anyone wants to try and filter me it's not going to work.

May 26, 2016 - 17:58

William Green

Check out /mu/ and tell me that with a straight face again.

dude you can't have a civilized debate when you can barely tell who's who. That's literally what we even have flags for

Caring way too much is pretty close to nuclear

May 26, 2016 - 17:59

Gavin Watson

for the record I have been intentionally silent, this fracas over me is a pretty dank meme.

May 26, 2016 - 18:01

Ethan Garcia

...

May 26, 2016 - 18:02

David Anderson

You seem angry about something. Do you want to share with the class? That refers to the fact I want a flag.
For the record if this really pisses off more than 10% of the board then I might remove it but I was hoping a leftist theory board would be above something so stupid, you'll all know who I am regardless because I can't shut up about Puerto Rico so what's the use? At least this way you can try and filter me

May 26, 2016 - 18:04

David Lewis

Yes. Tripfags must be exterminated.

May 26, 2016 - 18:07

Dylan Torres

I'm not a tripfag.

May 26, 2016 - 18:08

David Fisher

...

May 26, 2016 - 18:14

Hudson Cox

Yes you can. It takes a little getting used to, but I'm sure you'll manage it, reddit friend!

May 26, 2016 - 18:15

Ian Fisher

To be fair I haven't gone there either, I've just heard about them.

I don't see a problem with Lares' posts. If you hadn't filtered him on sight you might agree.

May 26, 2016 - 18:15

Michael King

...

May 26, 2016 - 18:16

Robert Thompson

It takes approximately 1 second of effort to make a post telling the tripfag to fuck off. You should really stop thinking everyone you disagree with is a frothing ball of rage.

May 26, 2016 - 18:16

Jayden Ramirez

But is it worth giving a shit at all? That's his point

May 26, 2016 - 18:17

Jeremiah Brooks

Of course the namefag sticks his nose in everything

May 26, 2016 - 18:17

Jaxon Turner

Is that a young Lord Baelish? Whoever it is, he's hot.

May 26, 2016 - 18:18

Isaac Cooper

I'm pretty sure you said I was from Reddit too.

Regardless I just got tired of having to explain to people where I was coming from all the time. The "wait, are you the guy who was talking about X a couple months ago?" exchanges annoy me.

May 26, 2016 - 18:19

Robert Lopez

So you should stop talking about shit you don't know about.

I haven't.

May 26, 2016 - 18:19

Jaxon Price

...

May 26, 2016 - 18:19

Gabriel Davis

Yes.

May 26, 2016 - 18:21

Brayden Thompson

Literally no one fucking cares that you're Puerto Rican. If it's relevant and needs mentioning, mention it. Otherwise it's just needless circlejerking.

May 26, 2016 - 18:22

Blake Roberts

See, this is why anonymity is a bit of a spook. I've already got you mixed up with someone else.

May 26, 2016 - 18:23

Joshua Morales

Take your marriage squabbles elsewhere, pls. This thread can't take much more derailing.

May 26, 2016 - 18:24

Carson Kelly

Fucking redditors can't even meme properly.

May 26, 2016 - 18:24

Luis Rivera

This board should have had forced user from the start. Once you let one tripfag in, the rest of them crawl out of the woodwork desperate for fame.

May 26, 2016 - 18:25

Grayson King

Gets old real fast. My perspective is defined by my nationality, it's a part of every argument I make which I guess is a testament to me being a tool in some ways.
You know what, I only turned on trip out of curiosity and such. If you're going to be moronic about it we'll try it your way and see how it goes.

Noted, this will be my last response.

May 26, 2016 - 18:27

Ethan Mitchell

There is literally nothing wrong with doing this. It's like 6 words.

May 26, 2016 - 18:36

Asher Adams

thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/281332-trump-my-gop-will-be-a-workers-party

is he right?

May 26, 2016 - 18:38

Daniel Lopez

...

May 26, 2016 - 18:41

Hudson Perez

All this butt hurt

archive.is/4ddOZ

May 26, 2016 - 18:57

Chase Harris

Wouldn't be surprised

May 26, 2016 - 19:03

Wyatt Cruz

Isn't Manchin the one who killed the public option for Obamacare?

May 26, 2016 - 19:06

Ethan Brown

No, as long as he's a fiscal conservative and treats his own workers like shit he'll just be an above-average Porky.

May 26, 2016 - 19:08

Cooper Gonzalez

By the way, for those of you worrying about June 7th and New Jersey- phonebank assuming he ties, he only need 4.5% more than the 67.4% goal in California to make it up. So if he makes 72% in Cali and narrowly loses New Jersey but hits 67.4% everywhere else (hypotheticals all over the place here) he will take a lead.

May 26, 2016 - 19:15

Jacob Gray

It's like they're twelve.

May 26, 2016 - 19:16

Jason Walker

Weeb conventions are less cringy. I hate this pomo world we live in.

May 26, 2016 - 19:26

Joshua Gomez

I'm roadtripping and won't have WiFi for long. Someone fill me in on the latest news, particularly the investigation with Clinton's servers.

I'm in MT atm. I was in NE, SD, and ND the past few days, and will be in WY and CO later, then going home to KS. Hello to any and all comrades in the area. You live in beautiful states.

May 26, 2016 - 19:57

Ryder Lopez

theres a bernie vs trump debate

May 26, 2016 - 20:04

Easton Jones

I doubt that's the case but assuming that sort of rhetoric continues, it would be a good opportunity for socialists to infiltrate the republican party.

May 26, 2016 - 20:05

Elijah Brown

If you are in Colorado on May 30th you should hit up Independence pass when it opens up.

May 26, 2016 - 20:24

Benjamin Fisher

Fuck that rotten old bitch Diane Feinstein

May 26, 2016 - 20:28

Nathan Rivera

That heckler was being a pretty faggy giganigger, fair's fair.

This. It doesn't matter who's saying it or why, but the return of ideas like countervailing duty trade tariffs, tighter immigration quotas, and infrastructural megaprojects, is something unprecedented since FDR, maybe Kennedy at the latest.

We'll probably never get Republican politicians to support labor unions, but pounding a stake through the heart of neoliberalism is the next best thing.

I expect that sort of thing from a centrist like her, but hearing it from Barbara Boxer was genuinely hurtful, at least she's vacating her seat. Before this election, I really thought she'd make a good running mate for Sanders.

May 26, 2016 - 20:38

Noah Carter

Stupid is stupid, user. But, do you have a link?

May 26, 2016 - 20:46

Angel Cook

Will I see you at the state convention, comrade?

May 26, 2016 - 20:52

Lucas Bell

Yeah, I remember doing a report on a bill she made in a highshool politics class, and thinking she was doing some good work.

May 26, 2016 - 20:55

Carson Scott

youtube.com/watch?v=2U3UHonIZBw

May 26, 2016 - 20:55

Easton Perry

NO SURVIVORS

May 26, 2016 - 22:30

Nathaniel Fisher

Well said. Not to mention, the democratic party has essentially alienated an entire generation of voters, many of which are very progressive. These people may move to the republican party as a reaction to their mistreatment by the democratic establishment.

Considering the ethnic demographics of these people, (primarily white, many of which reject the idea of racial and gender based Priv@lege which has been used to attack them by the democratic establishment for opposing Hillary Clinton) I honestly wouldn't be surprised if in 20 years the republican party was transformed into a party of workers with either a slightly socially conservative or socially neutral bend.

Of course by then, the definition of "socially conservative" will have changed dramatically to mean the sorts of people who are opposed to neoliberal social justice and identity politics in general.

May 26, 2016 - 22:57

Jack Russell

I was more thinking of the Democrats and Republicans both shifting to labor and economics as a primary focus thanks to Bernie and Trump, but that would certainly be a strange possibility.

The idea of something like the Democrat/Republican shift that happened over segregation, but in reverse. Democrats being pivoted to the right by a mixture of regressive views held by their future unassimilated immigrant base and neoliberal views held by lolbert business tycoons, while the Republican party is engulfed by nascent labor organization and left populism.

May 26, 2016 - 23:16

Aiden Scott

What you're describing is exactly what will happen unless another Sanders like figure emerges within the democratic party within the next decade. With that said, it's unlikely that would happen, although nothing is out of the question.

May 26, 2016 - 23:43

Jackson James

SHE ELECTED NOT TO DO IT, YOU DINGUS! SHE'S NOT BEING EXCLUDED, SHE TURNED IT DOWN!

May 26, 2016 - 23:47

David Cox

I can't find the video yet, but here's audio of the Sanders appearance on Kimmel after the debate announcement. He talks about that, among other things.

youtube.com/watch?v=4I8EAFHQ0uo

May 27, 2016 - 00:22

Robert Gutierrez

Found video: youtube.com/watch?v=MK6nMKKMtQ8

May 27, 2016 - 00:27

Jacob Morris

Jesus christ it's like an even more autistic pony convention
I didn't think it was possible

May 27, 2016 - 00:29

Anthony Perez

Awesome picture.

May 27, 2016 - 00:41

Julian Gonzalez

Breaking news: Sanders has a fist-fucking fetish.
More at 11.

May 27, 2016 - 00:45

Adrian Perry

Bernie's gotta stock up on lube for when he rapes trump in the general

May 27, 2016 - 00:46

Samuel White

Goddess, I hate when he raises his fist like that. Every woman knows that's a sign of a male dominating women with violence.

May 27, 2016 - 01:03

Jace Kelly

or how about like this feminazi?

May 27, 2016 - 01:09

Bentley Barnes

she's holding her arm up in reflexive self-defense
it's implied there's a man out of frame about to beat her.
This image depicts a woman where the patriarchy wants her - on the receiving end of a man's penis/fist.

May 27, 2016 - 01:18

Elijah Price

...

May 27, 2016 - 01:19

Luke Sanders

Sounds hot

May 27, 2016 - 01:20

Grayson Lopez

Maybe you're onto something, sister.

May 27, 2016 - 01:21

Jaxon Wright

youtube.com/watch?v=YUoc9_3qVBc
"Significant Security Risks": State Department Says Clinton Broke Rules Using Private Email Server

A good report on the email/server scandal.

May 27, 2016 - 01:57

Chase Stewart

ABSOLUTE MADMAN!

May 27, 2016 - 02:00

Noah Ortiz

S L I C K

May 27, 2016 - 02:09

Asher Smith

OH SHIT

May 27, 2016 - 02:56

Andrew Richardson

politico.com/story/2016/05/trump-gop-workers-party-223598

TRUMP CONFIRMED FOR FULL COMMUNIST

May 27, 2016 - 02:59

Nolan Adams

Preview of the bernie/trump debate. teump is nash, hogan bernie.

May 27, 2016 - 03:11

Anthony Kelly

In all seriousness, he's obviously a bourgeois shill. However, the trends indicate that things are moving in more of a labor oriented direction in both parties. Just the fact that you hear this sort of rhetoric coming out of a republicans mouth is good news.

May 27, 2016 - 03:14

Liam Murphy

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May 27, 2016 - 03:16

Elijah Ortiz

Man, this guy is pivoting.
Hard.
He's trying to out-flanking the republicans on the right, and then the Dems on the left.
And it's working.

Good thing that we can talk about labour-issues again though.

May 27, 2016 - 03:19

Jack Reed

youtube.com/watch?v=2ZC7sswXHBI

May 27, 2016 - 03:19

Jaxon Wilson

leftypol has such great taste in music

May 27, 2016 - 03:25

Tyler Morris

I'd never even heard of that song. I just typed "I can only dream" on google hoping to find some sort of meme and that came up.

May 27, 2016 - 03:27

Kayden Cox

Kek. You faggots better be careful or you'll break your arms jerking each other off.

May 27, 2016 - 03:29

Carson Diaz

trump isnt a typical republican and he is smarter than people want to admit, maybe he has a point about things moving that way, especially with shit like automation coming up in the future

May 27, 2016 - 03:33

Josiah Flores

How was I engaging in a circle jerk you dumb faggot? All I did was tell the person where I got the song.

Best case scenario for the next 20 years: Nationalist left vs the cosmopolitan left.

May 27, 2016 - 03:36

Caleb Jones

Meant to write:

May 27, 2016 - 03:36

Grayson Adams

You weren't. I had to include your post to show that the other commietard was basing his circlejerk on bullshit. Call the shattering of your ego collateral damage.

May 27, 2016 - 03:45

Gavin Ward

What makes you think I'm a communist anyway?
One can be a socialist without being a communist.

May 27, 2016 - 03:48

Justin Clark

kek that makes you an even bigger faggot. Can't even go all the way, gotta take a half measure. Next you'll say you're "bi-sexual".

May 27, 2016 - 03:51

Carson Garcia

Fuck off nigger. The people here actually have something called nuance. Maybe you'd be more comfortable back in your hole.
>>>Holla Forums

May 27, 2016 - 03:53

Nicholas Robinson

By Jerry White
27 May 2016

May 27, 2016 - 03:57

Wyatt Morales

The UAW endorsement of Hillary Clinton is a marriage made in heaven, or better yet Wall Street. They both share the fear that the UAW will not be able to survive another upheaval by autoworkers who, like tens of millions of other workers, are being radicalized by unprecedented social inequality, unending wars and the turn by the corporate and financial oligarchy in the US and around the world to ever more authoritarian forms of rule.

May 27, 2016 - 03:58

Jackson Fisher

How?
I personally like Protex and thought I found someone else who did.
Sometimes I'm surprised some of the other users are into a lot of the same music I'm into.
Granted, what I consider "great" is entirely subjective.

May 27, 2016 - 04:00

Kayden Sanders

If you don't mind foreign music..
youtube.com/watch?v=hw5xOXELaIk
(These songs always have an intro that lasts 30 secs to a minute. And it's usually them singing the chorus.)

Lyrics: lyricaldelights.com/2015/12/28/tharai-thappattai/

The lyrics really are incredible. Most of these songs contain ancient sanskrit poems or scripture.

May 27, 2016 - 04:04

Jackson Wilson

Nuance is the faggiest bullshit of all. "B-but Holla Forums can't be right! There must be some small exceptions I can cherry pick to 'prove' them wrong!"

Because it wasn't something the guy liked. He just picked a song that had a fitting name. "Holla Forums likes good music like meeee" is just circlejerking bullshit.

May 27, 2016 - 04:05

Hudson Peterson

Stay dumb Holla Forums.

May 27, 2016 - 04:10

Nathaniel Morales

I memed on the floor.

May 27, 2016 - 04:30

Luke Diaz

8ch.net/pol/res/6120787.html
This might actually be waking Holla Forums up to some degree.

May 27, 2016 - 04:32

David Campbell

Am I in an alternate universe Holla Forums?

May 27, 2016 - 04:37

Brandon Reed

Except I didn't say that, now did I?
That wasn't my intent.
I'm aware not everyone has the same taste as I do, and I completely accept that. I'm sure there are people who think mine is horrid.
Regardless, it doesn't matter if he picked out something I like on purpose or by accident, I still liked it.

People actually believe this?

Interesting stuff.
Is this from a film?
I don't listen to much Indian music, regrettably.
I'm going to have to listen to more before I can form a more concise opinion.
Thanks for sharing.

May 27, 2016 - 04:44

Nathaniel Green

(I'm American, btw. Just thought I'd clarify beforehand)

Yes, it's from a movie called "Tharai Thappattai". A Tamil movie you can torrent & find subtitles to, I did that recently. One of the saddest films I've seen in a long time.
Here's the video of that song from the movie:
youtube.com/watch?v=2f3UCpmk9AU
"Paruruvaaya" is another great song from it. The composer is a legend, here. Ilayaraja is his name.

Most popular Indian music is actually from cinema. Every movie usually has 3 or 4 songs in it, with the cast lip syncing, and those are the songs most popular on the radio.

Ohh, don't tempt me. :) Music is everything to me. Anywhere from Lynyrd Skynyrd to Bach, to foreign. I'll leave a couple more here for if you're interested.

This one has subs; cool lyrics; also old poetry. Pakistani Sufi singer, one of my favorite female singers.
youtube.com/watch?v=Z9bBGEFssWA

If you want to know Indian music, just look for A R Rahman. This is one of the most famous songs, here, with subs:
youtube.com/watch?v=YOYN9qNXmAw

Basic movie song, Hindi with subs:
youtube.com/watch?v=gWuuM4y_b6M

I saved this for last. Prepare for culture shock, lmao. South Indian folksy.
youtube.com/watch?v=2gTEZLdIWAg&list=RD2gTEZLdIWAg

Recommended songs in YT after these can give you a good idea.

May 27, 2016 - 05:06

Levi Roberts

And guys, the "basic movie song, Hindi" you'll want to check out. That's Aishwarya Rai, Miss world. One of the prettiest women I've ever seen. Worth knowing about..

May 27, 2016 - 05:11

James Murphy

Nah. Trump is a lying shill. He treats his own workers like shit, he's just saying what will get him elected.

May 27, 2016 - 06:39

Blake Campbell

You can't make this shit up

May 27, 2016 - 06:49

Parker Stewart

b-but muh """rapefugees"""

May 27, 2016 - 06:50

Alexander Collins

I miss when leftypol had no tripfags, though yui poster was good. He was too good for us, but he did the right thing.

May 27, 2016 - 07:04

Christopher Kelly

Don't get me wrong. I don't doubt the fact that he's a lying shill but it's not about what he is but what he represents in many aspects.

May 27, 2016 - 07:51

Dominic Clark

they've been thinking this before, I have no idea what you're surprised about.

May 27, 2016 - 08:08

Logan Gomez

No way dude. He didn't try to get the presidency through the tea party controlled zombie party for shits and giggles. He's making a pivot towards the status quo and if/when he wins he'll pivot back and keep the party happy and not the people because his reelection would be guaranteed unless the holocaust happened.

May 27, 2016 - 09:15

Tyler Thomas

What I'm trying to say is this is a blip and it won't change how republicans position themselves.

May 27, 2016 - 09:16

Evan Young

NevadaNebraskaGunOwner is now a filtered word on reddit that will get your post shadowbanned, and the mods are actively deleting posts that point this out or question it.

May 27, 2016 - 09:40

Asher Richardson

...

May 27, 2016 - 10:19

Isaac Morris

daily reminder that sexuality is a spook

May 27, 2016 - 10:21

Joseph Ward

t. basement virgin

May 27, 2016 - 10:34

Lucas Mitchell

Why do you hurt me this way?

May 27, 2016 - 10:37

Hunter Anderson

Because you're an untermensch. If you don't marry and reproduce, what are you worth to your people, country, and God? If you don't do your part, the other """"""peoples"""""" of the world will outbreed yours and your culture, religion, and genes will disappear. For Christ's sake, at least go knock up some slut. Slip her some drugs if you have to, you pathetic neckbeard.

May 27, 2016 - 10:42

Henry Green

And now for your daily dose of liberal idpol:

archive.is/rwq6i

huffingtonpost.com/rebecca-bohanan/the-bernie-vs-hillary-bat_b_10132260.html

May 27, 2016 - 10:47

Liam Peterson

As for God:

Matthew 19:10-12

"The disciples *said to Him, “If the relationship of the man with his wife is like this, it is better not to marry.” 11 But He said to them, “Not all men can accept this statement, but only those to whom it has been given. 12 For there are eunuchs who were born that way from their mother’s womb; and there are eunuchs who were made eunuchs by men; and there are also eunuchs who made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. He who is able to accept this, let him accept it.”

1 Corinthians 7:32-35

"32 But I want you to be free from concern. One who is unmarried is concerned about the things of the Lord, how he may please the Lord; 33 but one who is married is concerned about the things of the world, how he may please his wife, 34 and his interests are divided. The woman who is unmarried, and the virgin, is concerned about the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and spirit; but one who is married is concerned about the things of the world, how she may please her husband. 35 This I say for your own benefit; not to put a restraint upon you, but [r]to promote what is appropriate and to secure undistracted devotion to the Lord."

I mean ofc I don't expect a fascist to actually read the Bible but seriously?

May 27, 2016 - 10:49

Luke Jackson

Now those are actual spooks.

I do what I do for myself and no one else. I live for myself, can you honestly say the same?

You're willing to rape and probably do some other shitty stuff all for those three spooks? Let me let you in on a little secret. The white race doesn't give a shit what you do for it. Your """"country"""" doesn't give a shit what you do for it, but right wingers and capitalists will be grateful for useful idiotism for their benefit. And God cares not for your race, your country, or anything in the material world.

May 27, 2016 - 10:51

Parker Gomez

I think in Ecclesiastes there's a verse about how it is better never to have been born.

May 27, 2016 - 10:57

Kayden Jones

Was Solomon agonizing over the futility of life if I remember correctly.

May 27, 2016 - 10:59

Carson Martin

The Bible was written by flawed humans (mostly dirty sandniggers), so it's more important to use COMMON SENSE and INTUITION than trust those people's interpretation of God's will. For fuck's sake, the Jews thought they of all people were God's chosen.

Fuck no, I can't imagine anything more degenerate than that. You are going to die, and soon. You'll live foreever in the hereafter, so you should live for God and earn that, but the world you leave behind will exist for much longer than you will. If you don't devote your life to your people, culture, and nation you are pissing your life away.

May 27, 2016 - 10:59

Levi Clark

Kek what a cuck
don't be such a servile little bootlicker user

May 27, 2016 - 11:02

Michael Nguyen

Oh how convenient that your God is totally in favor of gassing jews and niggers then and aligns 100% with your political ideology. :^)

Have fun in hell buddy.

May 27, 2016 - 11:04

Gabriel Russell

You forgot your anarcho-femishit flag. Also, I'm not pathetic enough to need performance enhancing drugs to get sex with a woman. I have a wife and we have sex whenever I want.

The people it consists of do. They don't want rapefugees blowing up their home and kidnapping their children.

If you don't have a secure country your people will get steamrolled by savages.

I see no problem with people benefiting from my devotion to my people. I can see why a selfish cunt like you would, though.

Yeah, that's why he created the world. Come on son.

Jeez, no wonder communism always fizzles out. Protip: your ideology has to be strong and make people want to be part of it if it's going to work. Otherwise they'll just leech off others' hard work and the workers will get fed up with the exploitation.

No nazi ever wanted to kill the untermensch. Hitler wanted to deport them, but literally no country on Earth would take the filth, so they sat in camps. Then the Allies started bombing German supply lines. Logistically they couldn't handle the demand for supplies in the camps (or even the more deserving Germans) and people started starving. If they killed anyone it was a mercy to spare them death by slow painful starvation. All that blood in on the hands of the Allies.

May 27, 2016 - 11:10

Parker Allen

being part of "something bigger" at your own expense is pure servile faggotry
why does rejecting your slavish retardation mean people wouldn't want to join out of their own rational self interest? at it's core socialism and communism is about fulfilling the workers self interest and of all peoples really.

May 27, 2016 - 11:15

Leo Martinez

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May 27, 2016 - 11:18

Connor Hughes

kek yeah that's why it's called "socialism" and "communism" totally about self-interest. You know what they'd do out of self-interest? Leech off the system just like what happens now with welfare. You people bitch about exploitation but want to have a system where the most degenerate useless people exploit everyone else. How is that better than rich people exploiting everyone else?

May 27, 2016 - 11:18

David Edwards

Jesus didn't marry or reproduce

Where is your god now, faggot?

May 27, 2016 - 11:20

Levi Wright

[CITATION_NEEDED]

May 27, 2016 - 11:20

Juan Gutierrez

The only reason any leftist would want to get into heaven is so that he could kill god, the boss on high and heavenly bourgeois.

As if Bakunin hasn't done so already

May 27, 2016 - 11:22

Josiah Anderson

According to some people, but he also died very young. Surely his descendants would stand above even the Aryan people. Why would God want that? There's already a master race.

>everyone else on this thread board
[COMMON SENSE NEEDED]

May 27, 2016 - 11:22

Jonathan Moore

wew
Citation needed
welfare isn't socialism
why would people being given the full value of their labor somehow be exploiting others? how would people having control and a say in their labor exploitative to others?

May 27, 2016 - 11:24

Isaac Hill

This is your brain on leftism.
How does God exploit anyone? The world wouldn't exist without Him.

Is this the new "communism has never been tried"?
It's not, but it opens up the next thing:
Because the lazy people would work less and vote to get stuff anyway. And under communism they wouldn't have to work at all, just being parasites on society. The workers would stop tolerating that and try to change to a different system.

May 27, 2016 - 11:28

Asher Reed

you answered your own question

May 27, 2016 - 11:31

Jose Rivera

I seriously want to lynch the entirety of CNN right now.

May 27, 2016 - 11:34

Josiah Sanchez

are you retarded? Welfare is literally a capitalist reform made to STOP socialist revolutions
why would the majority of any workplace agree to that? it makes no sense people would be paid according to their work or what is agreed upon as consensus
under communism you wouldn't NEED to work at all tbh
there might be some volunteers needed to work like 3 hours a week or something but most work would be mechanized and automated.
been watching too many scifi movies m8 :^)

May 27, 2016 - 11:35

Ryder Kelly

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Woodhull (illegally)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belva_Ann_Lockwood (legally)
3000 hours of research on wikipedia

May 27, 2016 - 11:35

Jaxson Hill

Let's say he did. Why ought we obey him for that reason alone? Does your father command you? Does he own your body? Does he have the right to kill you if you disobey him?

As in… they would vote to have automation and cut down on their work hours? Sure, why on earth would that be a bad thing. The same stuff for less work. More spare time. What aspect of that is bad?

"Any distribution whatever of the means of consumption is only a consequence of the distribution of the conditions of production themselves. The latter distribution, however, is a feature of the mode of production itself. The capitalist mode of production, for example, rests on the fact that the material conditions of production are in the hands of nonworkers in the form of property in capital and land, while the masses are only owners of the personal condition of production, of labor power. If the elements of production are so distributed, then the present-day distribution of the means of consumption results automatically. If the material conditions of production are the co-operative property of the workers themselves, then there likewise results a distribution of the means of consumption different from the present one. Vulgar socialism (and from it in turn a section of the democrats) has taken over from the bourgeois economists the consideration and treatment of distribution as independent of the mode of production and hence the presentation of socialism as turning principally on distribution. After the real relation has long been made clear, why retrogress again?"

Karl Marx, COTGP

Here the man denies that wealth redistribution-programmes is socialism. And I think Marx knew what socialism is.

May 27, 2016 - 11:38

Adrian Torres

Only to a leftist is existence exploitation by definition.

Well I guess every cloud has a silver lining then.
Because lazy fucks would unionize or take advantage of muh sympathy.
Automation is far from replacing all work, and may never do it.
Except for the stuff like engineering or practical labor that requires problem solving and creative thinking.
The robots would, but not the plumbers and electricians who have to fix lazy people's shit when they could be fixing hard workers' shit instead.

Because he will reward us for it. He's under no obligation to do anything for us, but he will if we cooperate.
No, they would vote to have less labor for the same value in money or whatever they get in exchange. "Automating would be too much work, why can't we just raise the equivalent of minimum wage?" Who would oppose that? But then where's the incentive to keep working aside from people who just want to do the hard but necessary jobs?
That's just word salad mate. They proved that leftists don't actually understand any of what they read. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokal_affair And just because Saint Karl said it doesn't make it true.

May 27, 2016 - 11:46

Parker Green

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May 27, 2016 - 11:46

Leo Myers

wait so the only way it would happen is if people consented to it? then what the fuck is the problem? just vote to change it so you only get paid the value you produce if you don't like it
it can already replace most work
so people who want to do that can
creative work has people that actually actively enjoy what they do
why would they honestly give a fuck? somebody needs help so they help if they are actually pieces of shit then people just won't deal with them
free association nigga

May 27, 2016 - 11:52

Connor Ross

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May 27, 2016 - 11:53

Nolan Myers

And so we're under no obligation to follow him, and thus he is no lord at all? Good. Then I elect not to.

This makes no sense. If you decrease hours without automisation you produce less and thus you sell less, thus you make less. It's not like the cooperation has a magic money-printing machine. It needs to exchange in one way or another. Why do you expect people to work against their own personal self-interest?

What he's saying is that wealth distribution is really determined by work-place ownership, and thus it is naive to call wealth-redistribution socialism. You can disagree with him all you want, but here you have Marx saying that wealth-redistribution is not socialism.
So you can call wealth-redistribution socialism all you want, but it would only be so according to your own snowflake definition of socialism.

May 27, 2016 - 12:02

Ayden Ward

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May 27, 2016 - 12:14

Dominic Watson

Most people are complete idiots and will consent to things that are bad for them. See 99% of consumer goods.
Most work is bullshit and should be replaced so those people can do useful things instead.
Dirty jobs like sewage treatment and plumbing are jobs like that, but lots of people just do them to get paid. Anything with a wide variety of problems is hard to automate.
Because by helping a deadbeat they get nothing in return, but the liberal idiots guilt them into doing it.

It's your eternity.
I thought you faggots were against markets and money, just want people to get what they "need" or "deserve".
The myopia is real. This is why socialism/communism won't work.
They do it all the time. See: every shitty dead-end job that provides nothing of value to society.

The whole point of socialism is to redistribute wealth though. How is the means of production moving to the workers not redistribution of wealth?

May 27, 2016 - 12:21

Nathaniel Adams

btw the majority of people on welfare are middle age, working class whites that worked for years before the economy got fucked and now can't find jobs because there are none

May 27, 2016 - 12:25

Cameron Diaz

That's pretty disgusting, especially given the fact that they revealed 28% of UAW members in a poll earlier wanted a Trump endorsement, but refused to reveal how well Sanders and Clinton polled among UAW membership. At least the AFL-CIO has held off on an endorsement.

Even more disgusting, however, is the bizarre accusation that what "has long been the stock-in-trade" of American labor unions is "fascistic" "anti-immigrant agitation", "[waging] trade war", "nationalist poison", "[dividing] American workers from their cheap source of slave labor brothers and sisters around the totally lacking in industrial regulation the 1st-world has world".

Nothing could be further from the truth, as ever since the Reagan era, unions have backstabbed the working class and bent themselves into knots to appeal to immigrants, also collapsing (though not anywhere near as severely as with immigration) in the face of free trade:
cis.org/Unionism%26ImmigrationPolicy

/r/ing Checkers webbum

Every time they say something like this, I wonder if they said the same things about Margaret Thatcher back in the day.

Demiurge pls

I concur with the rest of your post, but the above isn't strictly true. Overwork, especially in more intellectual fields, will eventually result in decreased efficiency as compared with hiring more shifts of labor.

That's pretty disgusting, especially given the fact that they revealed 28% of UAW members in a poll earlier wanted a Trump endorsement, but refused to reveal how well Sanders and Clinton polled among UAW membership. At least the AFL-CIO has held off on an endorsement.

Even more disgusting, however, is the bizarre accusation that what "has long been the stock-in-trade" of American labor unions is "fascistic" "anti-immigrant agitation", "[waging] trade war", "nationalist poison", "[dividing] American workers from their cheap source of slave labor brothers and sisters around the totally lacking in industrial regulation the 1st-world has world".

Nothing could be further from the truth, as ever since the Reagan era, unions have backstabbed the working class and bent themselves into knots to appeal to immigrants, also collapsing (though not anywhere near as severely as with immigration) in the face of free trade:
cis.org/Unionism%26ImmigrationPolicy

/r/ing Checkers webbum

Every time they say something like this, I wonder if they said the same things about Margaret Thatcher back in the day.

Demiurge pls

I concur with the rest of your post, but the above isn't strictly true. Overwork, especially in more intellectual fields, will eventually result in decreased efficiency as compared with hiring more shifts of labor.

The point of socialism isn't exactly to redistribute wealth, it's to redistribute POWER, and thus other things such as wealth, in turn.

May 27, 2016 - 12:26

Josiah King

What's the Hillary equivalent to Berniebros?

You know the type, well-to-do liberals in their mid-20s who insist that Bernie Sanders is a reactionary who hates minorities and "doesn't understand the real issues".

May 27, 2016 - 12:26

Jack Martin

people know enough not to do what you're saying and even then ideology is what plays the biggest part on our consumption currently that and advertisement
then why can't a community organize this maintenance? why can't this be done democratically and fairly?
it's not like they have to
again free association
besides in a communist economy they won't need to worry about that as much

May 27, 2016 - 12:31

Connor Perez

Oh so he does force me. He threatens me with eternal torture, the mark of a tyrant. Then there is all the reason to kill him

Well, not necessarily at all. Markets have their own problems, but the problems of capitalism are not inherent to them.

Again, Marx said:

When "the direct producer" is "the possessor of his own means of production" then he is "a non-capitalist producer." This is "a form of production that does not correspond to the capitalist mode of production" even if "he produces his product as a commodity."- Capital III: 735, 1015
"The means of production and subsistence, while they remain the property of the immediate producer, are not capital. They only become capital under circumstances in which they serve at the same time as means of exploitation of, and domination over, the worker." When the producer owns his "conditions of labour" and "employs that labour to enrich himself instead of the capitalist" then it is an economic system "diametrically opposed" to capitalism. Capital 1: 938, 931

So the problem is not markets, but hierarchy and impersonal ownership within the workplace.

People don't elect to have dead-end jobs. I don't see what this has to do with what desicions people would make if they had democracy in the workplace.

Indeed, and that is what he said too! Much like the french and american revolution was a transfer of wealth from the nobility to the bourgeoisie, we'll need to sieze the workplaces initially.
That has nothing to do with the kind of wealth redistribution (means of consumption) that you're talking about with social programmes.

May 27, 2016 - 12:37

Jordan Myers

Oh look it's that nuance faggotry again.

Nobody will want to unless they have to or ideology tells them to, and communism tells people to be selfish apparently.

Yeah and the hippies in the commune won't associate with people who don't follow their guilt and help freeloaders.

God didn't make Hell, Satan did after God kicked him out for fucking up Heaven. Blame Satan for the alternative being shit.
OK my mistake but how do you get people to work if nobody makes them?
They could seek different jobs, or gain new skills on the side, or start their own business, etc. instead of taking whatever shitty job some asshole created to make some profit selling le ebin graphic tees or whatever.
They are both wealth redistribution. What difference does it make how they redistribute it? You faggots just cannot drop this nuance shit.

May 27, 2016 - 12:45

Liam Long

That's pretty disgusting, especially given the fact that they revealed 28% of UAW members in a poll earlier wanted a Trump endorsement, but refused to reveal how well Sanders and Clinton polled among UAW membership. At least the AFL-CIO has held off on an endorsement.

Even more disgusting, however, is the bizarre accusation that what "has long been the stock-in-trade" of American labor unions is "fascistic" "anti-immigrant agitation", "[waging] trade war", "nationalist poison", "[dividing] American workers from their cheap source of slave labor brothers and sisters around the totally lacking in industrial regulation the 1st-world has world".

Nothing could be further from the truth, as ever since the Reagan era, unions have backstabbed the working class and bent themselves into knots to appeal to immigrants, also collapsing (though not anywhere near as severely as with immigration) in the face of free trade:

cis.org/Unionism%26ImmigrationPolicy

/r/ing Checkers webbum

Every time they say something like this, I wonder if they said the same things about Margaret Thatcher back in the day.

Demiurge pls

I concur with the rest of your post, but the above isn't strictly true. Overwork, especially in more intellectual fields, will eventually result in decreased efficiency as compared with hiring more shifts of labor.

The point of socialism isn't exactly to redistribute wealth, it's to redistribute POWER, and thus other things such as wealth, in turn.

May 27, 2016 - 12:48

Hunter Taylor

It's fine, a lot of people make this mistake.
I'm not quite sure what you mean with the question. Are you asking how workers would be able to invest in their own work-places without capitalists? Mutualist banks.
Banks that are essentially credit unions. They are democratically controlled and their only purpose is to fund new worker-owned cooperatives and thus they charge no interest (usury) on loans.

Well, there is a limited amount of jobs out there. I get what you're saying, most of these jobs are usually useless, but that doesn't mean that people could simply choose to go elsewhere.

You see no difference between the american revolution and wellfare programmes?
I mean, I guess one could call those two things similar in that way, but surely you must acknowledge that there's a pretty important difference between these two.

May 27, 2016 - 12:55

Ethan Sanders

Hillyhoes

May 27, 2016 - 12:55

Elijah Myers

Hillary Hacks

May 27, 2016 - 12:56

Kevin Ramirez

...

May 27, 2016 - 12:59

Aiden Morales

Morons

May 27, 2016 - 13:11

Anthony Roberts

I mean why would someone work if they don't have a hierarchy forcing them to. Banks are shit. Credit unions are much better.
Hence "or start their own business." If the problem is not enough jobs, the answer is more jobs. Simple.
If they had the initiative they could do what I said above. If they have to they could learn some skills on the side first.
How is the Revolutionary War wealth redistribution? They just made England fuck off and stop leeching their tax money. They didn't take back any money. They stopped giving it.

pic related

May 27, 2016 - 13:18

Zachary Allen

...

May 27, 2016 - 13:23

Ethan Gomez

Not an argument

May 27, 2016 - 13:26

Elijah Stewart

Well, if they want to eat they'd have to work. How else would you make a living? I mean, cooperatives exist today, and they don't need a hierarchy in order to go to work.
Masters have always told us that we need them. That's a hollow lie. The boss needs you, you don't need him. We are strong enough to manage ourselves. Agree with you on banks. A mutualist bank is essentially a credit union.

Indeed! Good thinking! However, credit unions necessary to fund such projects usually requires a strong union presence, and pro-capitalists have a tendency of cracking down on unions, so right now there isn't a network of organization to make this possible.

Well, it also takes a lot of money. The "bar of entry", meaning how much it costs to set up a competitiev business has gotten higher and higher because the wealthy have gotten wealthier, so people will need loans if they want to set up their own businesses.

America was the King's land. The americans usurped it.
But you could say the same about a socialist revoulution.
We'd just make the bosses fuck off and stop leeching of off the stuff we work at and create. We'll stop giving them the proceeds of our labour.

May 27, 2016 - 13:28

Ian Cooper

I'm pretty sure he's trolling. He's against nuance for fuck's sake.

May 27, 2016 - 13:28

Gabriel Cook

Isn't the whole point "from each according to his ability to each according to his need"? Are you saying this board disagrees with that, after all the Marx quoting?
Really? I doubt they would last very long.
So why are there so many people taking handouts instead of starting their own businesses?
I don't disagree with any of this. Capitalists/business owners don't tend to care about other people, the country, God, or any other of my "spooks" that you people don't like.
That's what savings are for, but loans help. I don't disagree with private entities (not the government, i.e. taxes) giving loans to people trying to start businesses.
Land is owned by the people who live on it and use it. It wasn't the Kings, he was just bullying people into giving him shit. If anything the Revolution ended redistribution.
Yeah, but like I said the bosses are necessary. Every attempt at communism fell apart. Humans are far from perfect. Most of us need to be led. It doesn't have to be that way though. We can evolve, but only if we let the strong prosper and the weak wither. That's how evolution works.

I expected nothing better but tbh I'm surprised other people here can actually defend their ideas. The people not like you have actually managed to win some respect from me. Clearly leftists have put a lot of thought into this, even though it may be misguided.

May 27, 2016 - 13:38

Julian Martinez

That maxim is only true once nearly full automization of the factories and so on has been hit, once having money is impossible, because there is no need for jobs to produce anything really, so noone can really be paid a wage. We call this high-stage communism.

Until then we work on lower-stage communism, also called socialism.

In Marx' words:

''Hence, equal right here is still in principle – bourgeois right, although principle and practice are no longer at loggerheads, while the exchange of equivalents in commodity exchange exists only on the average and not in the individual case.

In spite of this advance, this equal right is still constantly stigmatized by a bourgeois limitation. The right of the producers is proportional to the labor they supply; the equality consists in the fact that measurement is made with an equal standard, labor.

But one man is superior to another physically, or mentally, and supplies more labor in the same time, or can labor for a longer time; and labor, to serve as a measure, must be defined by its duration or intensity, otherwise it ceases to be a standard of measurement. This equal right is an unequal right for unequal labor. It recognizes no class differences, because everyone is only a worker like everyone else; but it tacitly recognizes unequal individual endowment, and thus productive capacity, as a natural muh privilege. It is, therefore, a right of inequality, in its content, like every right. Right, by its very nature, can consist only in the application of an equal standard; but unequal individuals (and they would not be different individuals if they were not unequal) are measurable only by an equal standard insofar as they are brought under an equal point of view, are taken from one definite side only – for instance, in the present case, are regarded only as workers and nothing more is seen in them, everything else being ignored. Further, one worker is married, another is not; one has more children than another, and so on and so forth. Thus, with an equal performance of labor, and hence an equal in the social consumption fund, one will in fact receive more than another, one will be richer than another, and so on. To avoid all these defects, right, instead of being equal, would have to be unequal.

But these defects are inevitable in the first phase of communist society as it is when it has just emerged after prolonged birth pangs from capitalist society. Right can never be higher than the economic structure of society and its cultural development conditioned thereby.

In a higher phase of communist society, after the enslaving subordination of the individual to the division of labor, and therewith also the antithesis between mental and physical labor, has vanished; after labor has become not only a means of life but life's prime want; after the productive forces have also increased with the all-around development of the individual, and all the springs of co-operative wealth flow more abundantly – only then then can the narrow horizon of bourgeois right be crossed in its entirety and society inscribe on its banners: From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs!''

Note in the first part that he stresses the individual's right to some inequality according to merit during lower-stage socialism.

May 27, 2016 - 13:44

Gavin Perez

Yeah people can save up and if the "bar of entry" is really low, then that's a good idea. However, the wages have stagnated for a long while now while the bar of entry has only gotten higher, so now it's almost impossible to start a competive business without some kind of loan. However, we seek a society where such loans are possible without usury, through mutual banks, which sole function is to enable people to start cooperative businesses.

I absolutely agree, this is Proudhon's definition of property.
But then, should the workplace not also be owned by those who use it, those who spent their time in it? Is it not just them stopping the flow of value to the capitalist the second they decide to implement democracy in the workplace rather than let the boss take the profits.

Why? What do we need them for? What can they do for me that a king couldn't do? Should we accept a monarch? Can I not sit upon the throne of my own life?

I want you to consider something. Now that I have brought you some examples of what communism is supposed to be, ask yourself: does the soviet union sound anything like that?

No. The soviet was a usurpation of the name of the socialist movement. They used it in order to implement their own system.

You think I only say this because it failed? Socialists recognized this long before the USSR failed or even before it got truly terrible.
Take this text by Emma Goldman from 1935:

theanarchistlibrary.org/library/emma-goldman-there-is-no-communism-in-russia

Human beings have not been subject to individual natural selection for millenea now. Even since we invented tools and started cooking stuff we have been shaping the environment to fit us, rather than shape ourselves to fit our environment. Our evolution has taken us in the direction where we have evolved now to be better at cooperating at give mutual aid to each other.

I have linked a book on the biology and evolution of mutual aid.

When the masters tell you that you need them, don't believe them.
We don't.

May 27, 2016 - 13:56

Tyler Cruz

Huh. That quote is a lot more coherent than the other ones. I can't say I disagree with the core concept. I didn't realize Marx thought about the process of getting to his utopian ideal.

Makes sense.
Right, but you still need the boss to make it work. Like I said communism keeps failing. Giving the workers control sounds nice but it breaks down quickly because it's not being managed. Most people are bad at long-term planning, so you need someone who's good at that to be in charge.
See above.
Kings can do the same thing, although their power was hereditary instead of merit-based.
No, but we should accept bosses who are competent. Incompetent bosses lead to failed businesses. The market can take care of that problem.
Yeah, but you're talking about sitting on the throne of your company, along with everyone else.
OK but what about all the others? China, Korea, Cuba, etc. All have fallen away from communism and gone to a different system. I don't see how what you're describing with the USSR is not communism failing, "usurping the socialist movement" as you say.
Uh, what? Are you saying that bad genes that cause illnesses and deformity stopped working? Are you saying that good genes that cause higher competence stopped working? Like you quoted Marx, people DO earn different amounts of money and succeed better or worse than others. I get that commies think the economy is unfair and stacked, but surely you agree that selective pressure is still present to some degree. This is to say nothing of sexual selection, btw.
If by environment you mean with respect to the natural world and by ourselves you mean societies instead of individual people. Society is also the environment of the individual, so it shapes people too. Which is why it's important to have a meritocratic society and not reward degenerate behavior.
Yes, that is true, but it will go in the opposite direction if it becomes advantageous to be a selfish cunt like this guy suggests and then civilization (or our civilization) will fall because people stop being inclined to co-operate.

May 27, 2016 - 14:09

Michael James

MAKE A SEPARATE THREAD YOU FAGGOTS

May 27, 2016 - 14:13

Alexander Rivera

You can elect managers that are recallable instantly if they don't to the job properly. I am not under the illusion that we don't need administration, just that administration ought be democratic and voluntary.

The same with bosses. A lot of people simply inherit their wealth from their parents, much like kings of old.

Bosses hire CEOs to manage their business, so they don't actually have to do any work. I mean, Bill Gates for example doesn't do any fucking work, he just rakes in all the money. So no, incompetent bosses don't fail, they hire competent people to work for them.

Well, ask yourself the same question with those (who all were soviet-backed btw). Did they have democracy in the workplace? Did what Marx talked about sound like what they had? Well, if they didn't have what eariler socialist thinkers were talking about, it's obvious they were only using the name to gain popular support, much like the Democratic Republic of Congo pretends to be democratic but isn't.

Yes, but unlike most other species, humanity does not have selective pressure to be able to compete, rather our selective pressure releies on our ability to cooperate. This is a pretty important

Well, in most cases, since human being thrive the most when they supply mutual-aid to each other, it is in the interest of the individual to cooperate with other. It will always be. However, in those cases where the individual has to go against their own interests, I don't see much reason to force them to.

Remember, a sacrifice is not a sacrifice if one thinks it will bring benefit down the road, it is an investment.

May 27, 2016 - 14:26

Bentley Rodriguez

Just so you know: the USSR never claimed to have achieved communism and during the time of Lenin it didn’t claim to have achieved to even been practising socialism at all, the material conditions just weren't there.
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1920/dec/06.htm
Lenin rightfully classified it as State Capitalism.
No of the others you mentioned claimed to have achieved communism either nor did they implement democracy in the workplace or worker's control, instead they toiled the soviet line as started by stalin because A: most of those regimes were installed by the soviets or B: They were highly depended on soviet aid. It was usually both of these factors working at once.

May 27, 2016 - 14:32

Noah Ross

How has socialism/communism managed to be around so long without being tried then? Surely at least the democratic workplace thing would be easy enough to implement. Is it commie incompetence or what?

But being accountable to the people is the problem. We're mostly instinctual and short-term-thinking creatures. The boss makes an unpopular but important decision? Goodbye boss.
Yes, but with people running businesses, if they suck it will fail. That's how selection pressures work. Same as evolution.
Yeah, but he built that company and people were dumb enough to buy shitty Windows computers instead of better alternatives. He set up the company so he earned that wealth.
See my reply to your other post.
OK but the pressures are still there. This is more of that nuance shit. "Well see things aren't exactly that way!!!" It's still selective pressure, and there are good and bad traits.
Yes, but selective pressure happens on the margins. (Incidentally this is why it's a huge problem to irrelevant shit. Even small differences have a large effect in the long term). If society makes an individual's environment less dependent on co-operation, e.g. devotion to God and country, the people in the country will be less productive and that country will likely get out-competed by countries that have a more co-operative people. This is why self-interest is the cancer of civilization. It wouldn't be so bad if people were better at thinking long-term, but we're not. It's completely anti-science to suggest that we are. If you teach people to be self-interested, they will mostly think of their immediate personal desires instead of how they can benefit from a more co-operative system.

May 27, 2016 - 14:52

Liam White

Sanders on TYT right now.

May 27, 2016 - 15:03

Grayson Edwards

It already exists, dude.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workers'_self-management

May 27, 2016 - 15:07

Hunter Edwards

That includes people in power. The drive for immediate profits by bosses is damaging the environment in such a way that it threatens the long-term survival of the species. Short-term decision making on the part of bosses is just as likely to produce disaster as short-term decision making by workers, the only difference is that the former predictably benefits bosses in the short-term rather than (and at the expense of) workers in the short-term.

May 27, 2016 - 15:13

Jordan Perry

Right but the ones who don't think long term will fail, leaving the ones who do think long term. Externalities should be regulated by the government, putting a value on their cost and taxing businesses appropriately.

That's just for individual companies though, where has that been done by a whole country/society?

Kill yourself Eurocuck. What are you even doing in this thread to begin with. Go jerk off about how Merkel is tolerant and Islam culturally enriches Europe.

May 27, 2016 - 15:22

Easton Phillips

No, when it comes to the environment those who do think long-term - by pursuing costly and unprofitable environmentally friendly practices - fail.

May 27, 2016 - 15:24

Christian Lewis

Donald Trump has backed out of the debate with Bernie Sanders.

May 27, 2016 - 15:25

Nicholas Moore

The English Crown set up America. Does the US righfully belong to the English Monarch?

Revolutionary catalonia did it. They lost a war, though.
The fact that there are such enterprises with over 70.000 worker-owners would show you that workers are more than capable of leading themselves. I certainly am. I trust you are too.

The answer lies in the fact that the USSR actually cracked down hard on actually communism while the west did the same.

May 27, 2016 - 15:26

Adam Jackson

donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-statement-on-debating-bernie-sanders

May 27, 2016 - 15:27

Sebastian Green

cowardly

May 27, 2016 - 15:28

Ayden Hall

I love how much he tries to reach out to Bernie's voters.

May 27, 2016 - 15:30

Josiah Reyes

twitter.com/mviser/status/736289106238570496

HE CHICKENED OUT

May 27, 2016 - 15:38

Ian Bailey

archive.is/p3o0r
archive.is/KnqRk
Donald Stumped

May 27, 2016 - 15:42

Luis Lee

Because they're not taxed according to the cost of externalities they contribute to, or credited according to positive externalities (which is just as important imo).

They didn't do any of the work, unlike Gates. I don't see monarchs as legitimate anyway, but Gates did put in work developing his product and company. I don't really see how he's unfairly benefitted from it unless you're talking about how it's unfair for such a shitty product to be so popular.

So if it's never really been tried long enough to work, couldn't I say the same thing about Not Socialism and fascism? It could have been great but we all know who won World War II.

May 27, 2016 - 15:45

James Wilson

CUCKED

May 27, 2016 - 15:47

Joseph Gonzalez

Get TYT to host it. I'm dead serious. They're not MSM. They're upstarts. Trump should love them other than their political leanings. If Bernie suggests it, he could use it against Trump if he doesn't want to help a small business.

May 27, 2016 - 15:48

Grayson Watson

Gates just stole ideas from jobs who stole from xerox

May 27, 2016 - 15:48

Logan Taylor

Not that I'd ever defend Fascism, but you always have Franco and Pinochet, they lasted a good length of time.

May 27, 2016 - 15:49

Tyler Gutierrez

So did Margaret.

YOUDON'TSAY.jpg

May 27, 2016 - 15:52

Daniel Allen

Gates didn't do much in terms of coding. He administrated things, sure, but so did the monarch. Why does thing entitle him to the work of others, why does thing mean that those working with him does not get a say in the process? Would the monarch be entiteled to America if he put a token amount of work into the colonies?

Well, Mondragon, a cooperative of 70.000 is 60 odd years old now. that's quite some time.
But you could. Nazism and fascism doesn't diffentiate itself from capitalism though, so I'd just give you the same criticisms.

May 27, 2016 - 15:52

Cooper Bailey

Expect Holla Forumsacks to come spamming this board in damage control

May 27, 2016 - 15:53

Kayden Richardson

...

May 27, 2016 - 15:57

Samuel Cook

Kek where's this from?

May 27, 2016 - 15:59

Logan Peterson

It's pretty obvious that the US didn't need administration from the King, considering they won the war. Let me know when there's a tech giant rivaling Microsoft that's democratized.

But capitalism has been the state of the world for a while now. Let me know when it fails.

May 27, 2016 - 16:00

Carter Bailey

No idea, I just pulled it off twatter

May 27, 2016 - 16:01

Daniel Green

Try dissenting even a little bit over there. Trump is good at getting people to do things, but he's bad at making good decisions. You need both to be a good leader.

May 27, 2016 - 16:01

Levi Hernandez

That implication wasn't in my post at all, keep up the defensiveness though my lad

May 27, 2016 - 16:03

Isaac Martin

That's faulty logic. A feudal lord could have said the same to a capitalist before the revolution. Just because one doesn't exist now, doesn't mean that it can't. Remember, cooperatives usually need strong unions, and Unions have been smashed to fucking pieces.

We've been in almost constant crisis since the 70's with huge increases in both debt and inequality, plus the rates of profits are falling as markets cannot expand further because the third world is fully exploited.
Feudalism was the state of the world for a long time too, but you consider that illegitimate.
Why are we to accept one master over the other? The cradle of our civilization had direct democracies. We can do that again.

May 27, 2016 - 16:06

Robert Morales

>That's faulty logic. A feudal lord could have said the same to a capitalist before the revolution.
That's the point. If you can succeed at a revolution and show you don't need someone managing you, you have demonstrated the right to rule yourself. If you try and fail you demonstrate that you don't. If you don't even try, you definitely belong where you are.

Maybe it's going to fail soon. Maybe not. Will there be a revolution? Will it work? Hard to say. But until people overthrow capitalism, capitalism is a fine system.
Feudalism was fine for a while too. It was an improvement over what came before. People who didn't live under feudalism were vulnerable to feudal societies, making feudalism the only moral choice until a better system came along.
Because for now the master is mightier than the people. When that changes, the state of the world will change.

May 27, 2016 - 16:15

Luke Stewart

...

May 27, 2016 - 16:26

Asher Bell

So the people have to prove their desire of socialism by accomplishing it and only then will it be legitimate?

Ok. Fine.

May 27, 2016 - 16:35

Matthew Collins

Holla Forums discusses Trump chickening out of the debate (for the second time

8ch.net/pol/res/6134854.html

kek

Dissent, or common sense, rather, is not tolerated naturally.

May 27, 2016 - 16:38

Kayden Torres

What in the world is that picture

May 27, 2016 - 16:41

Bentley Cooper

Yes exactly. Might makes right.

May 27, 2016 - 16:42

Jackson Robinson

kindred spirits

May 27, 2016 - 16:43

Gabriel Cox

Ehh, ok. But no one will ever know if it's possible if the workers don't know anything about it.

May 27, 2016 - 16:46

John Gutierrez

I'll summarise the thread

"Cuck"

May 27, 2016 - 16:47

Joshua Sanchez

I just love when the same far right who wants women in their "God declared/natural" environment suddenly finds itself defending women. Think of anti-immigrant European parties (muh raep), or now Trump's charity for women (muh shekels). If I were a woman, I'd be a sad, sad woman.

May 27, 2016 - 16:55

John Green

If it would ever work, if they'd ever become ready to rule themselves, they would know.

May 27, 2016 - 16:56

Cameron James

They don't actually care about women, they're just upset that they aren't the ones raping.

May 27, 2016 - 16:59

Connor Turner

I always found it interesting that some far right folks are also transhumanists. Like, if you're all about the being a cyborg, how can you also believe you want some races and women in inferior roles? Will you keep the technology from them or what?

May 27, 2016 - 17:01

Carter Bennett

of course

they intend on keeping voting rights and so forth from them, why not tech too?

May 27, 2016 - 17:03

Evan Reyes

I suppose I assume the inevitability of tech being ubiquitous, regardless of what kind. Can't keep the locks on the robotics lab doors forever fam.

May 27, 2016 - 17:19

Michael Turner

Bob Arum offers $20M for Trump-Sanders debate
washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/27/bob-arum-offers-20-million-for-trump-sanders-debat/

May 27, 2016 - 17:22

Cameron Wood

TRUMP 2016

WHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo hahahaha

Trump 2016 baby, we need a capitalist revolution

May 27, 2016 - 17:28

Owen Wood

I thought you guys said he was a leftist.

May 27, 2016 - 17:29

Angel Fisher

I already knew this, but after the election is done with there will be zero reasons for me to watch TYT ever again.

May 27, 2016 - 17:36

Brandon Gomez

Are you unironically watching TYT outside of an election night?

May 27, 2016 - 17:39

Brody Sullivan

8ch.net/pol/res/6134854.html
>>>Holla Forums6134854

AH HAHAHA

ALL THIS RATIONALIZATION

I thought you were the boss of you, Trump?

This proves(as if we didn't already know) he's just a shill, abiding by the will of the parties & behind the scenes power players. He's feeling the pressure.

Why not "self-fund" this debate? Fucking coward. He knows, as well as most of Holla Forums, that Sanders is the real threat, much stronger than Hillary. So why risk getting his ass handed to him in a debate by Sanders, if he can just choose the easy way out with Hillary - if she gets the nom.

May 27, 2016 - 17:39

Alexander Lewis

I just tuned in because of the Sanders interview.

May 27, 2016 - 17:42

Colton Nelson

Yeah, but it's a lose-lose situation for Trump. He'll still look weak for backing out. This is actually still pretty good for Bernie. Both of the other candidates backed out of debating him. That sends a pretty strong message.

May 27, 2016 - 17:43

Luke Gonzalez

Oh of course. That's what I'm saying, too. I'm sure his ego is taking a knock from being called a pussy & a chicken nonstop now.

This was a misstep for him. The more he does this shit, the more people realize how genuinely full of shit he is. Usually it's just the nonsense he says, now he's doing nonsense actions. He mishandled that charity for the vets, too, right? The fact he's not ponying up his own money shows he could really give a shit about the charity angle, regarding the debate.

You're right though, this is still good for Bernie, being that both have backed out, citing nonsense reasons. This is actually the second time Trump's backed out from debating Bernie, too.

I already see people trying to use the rationale though, that "Sanders isn't worth the time" rather than he's strong. But I think the masses see through that.

My bad, I hadn't gotten to your post yet in the thread, before I posted the same thread link.

May 27, 2016 - 17:53

Aaron Cruz

I saved this under "chickenshit Trump"

May 27, 2016 - 17:54

Levi Johnson

...

May 27, 2016 - 17:56

Evan Perez

TRUMP CONFIRMED PUSSY

wew lad

May 27, 2016 - 17:58

Josiah Reed

dude that quote's fake lmao

May 27, 2016 - 17:58

Landon Parker

I this confirmed?

May 27, 2016 - 18:04

Robert Adams

Looking like it is false. Funny, because it totally sounds like something he'd say. Well meme'd, whoever did that.

May 27, 2016 - 18:08

Gabriel Miller

AHAHAHAHAHA

May 27, 2016 - 18:13

Ayden Johnson

be careful praising propaganda. it's a rattlesnake that will bite you just the same as them. how many people came to believe Bernie doesn't believe white people know what it means to be poor because a >well meme'd marco and yellow journalism?

May 27, 2016 - 18:16

Nathan Rogers

Good point, user. Sanders has gotten this badly as well. Not cool when it happens to any candidate.

May 27, 2016 - 18:19

Caleb Hughes

TRUMP BACKED OUT AGAIN

May 27, 2016 - 18:20

Jaxson Campbell

...

May 27, 2016 - 18:20

Jeremiah Brooks

...

May 27, 2016 - 18:50

Luke Bailey

#DonaldDucked

May 27, 2016 - 18:58

Jace Thompson

Looks like the Trump lion logo could use an update.

May 27, 2016 - 19:00

Charles Collins

#Donaldcucked

May 27, 2016 - 19:05

Eli Phillips

...

May 27, 2016 - 19:05

Brayden Taylor

someone photoshop trumps hair on that chicken

May 27, 2016 - 19:08

Jeremiah Lewis

Is there a porky OC with a MAGA hat?

May 27, 2016 - 19:09

Dylan Thomas

lmao

May 27, 2016 - 19:11

Nathaniel Jones

This is as close as I have

May 27, 2016 - 19:14

James Ward

Fixed

May 27, 2016 - 19:17

Joseph Evans

fuggen saved

May 27, 2016 - 19:19

Thomas Clark

Yes but it is exactly what he's doing. He got his campaign to listen to a shit ton of conservative talk radio to decide what his platform would be. He's just pandering to the biggest demo that feels underserved and requires little effort to win over.

May 27, 2016 - 19:21

Jaxson Green

Now do a Hillary one.

May 27, 2016 - 19:22

Isaiah Ward

100% agree.

May 27, 2016 - 19:26

Kevin Barnes

Objectively speaking it was probably the smarter move not to go to this. There's absolutely nothing that he'd gain and the worst case scenario would be the debate marginalizing Clinton so badly that Bernie wins the nomination and slaughters him in the general election. As it is he'll just be made fun of over not taking part for a few weeks before media moves on to something else.

May 27, 2016 - 19:27

Easton Nguyen

No, in the worst case scenario, Bernie also cuts through Trumps bullshit and makes him look bad too. Trump would be a fucking idiot to do the debate, but he looks bad either way. He just picked the lesser of two evils, like the American voter has to do.

May 27, 2016 - 19:29

Aiden Ramirez

Well yeah, figured that part was a given.

May 27, 2016 - 19:31

Isaiah Bennett

He can't handle having his feelings hurt. He will debate, he's just trying to figure out how to justify himself for making such a dumbass move.

May 27, 2016 - 19:36

Jaxson Powell

Nah, he skipped two Fox debates with everyone calling him scared. Doubt he'll end up doing this one.

May 27, 2016 - 19:39

Brayden Allen

Oy Vey listen to Rabbi Yeshuah some more, goy!

In Jesus there are no Jews or Gentiles, goy!

Share all that you own if you want to truly follow Yeshuah, goy!

May 27, 2016 - 19:41

Grayson Ramirez

Holy shit you're right, guy's a baby.

That's because those guys are tool fools and he knew he didn't have to bother with them. The generals is the big leagues.

May 27, 2016 - 19:58

Brody Hall

that video is fucking platinum

May 27, 2016 - 20:12

Dominic Adams

It's like Nazis are time-cube given human form.

May 27, 2016 - 20:15

Bentley Diaz

Sanders' response. Apparently this was how he learned Trump had back out, too.

Sanders also says both campaigns have received offers from two networks already.
youtube.com/watch?v=B9Mls-NjqZI

May 27, 2016 - 20:35

Ethan Campbell

T H E F I R E R I S E S

youtube.com/watch?v=Hok7ZaZA01o

youtube.com/watch?v=7k-oEJeWdD0

YES I know SA are largely impotent at this point but still further Left than Sanders which is relevant in burgerstan no?

youtube.com/watch?v=fLdIY3VAziM

It's happening brothers, all the stupid Left-Liberal movements are beginning to coalesce and swing even harder Left. Yes this all comes from a Trump rally but the fact that there are Socialistic elements willing to be vocal means the potential for larger influence is there and is happening. Sanders better be quick about revealing his power level once he gets in office or else his supporters desire for actual Socialism will outpace his entry

May 27, 2016 - 20:37

Cooper Sanders

Half these people are nothing more than limousine liberals who like to call themselves "socialists" because it's edgy. Their entire reasoning behind protesting Trump is retarded in and of itself. The fact is, there's nothing wrong with wanting to control our borders. If they wanted to stage an effective protest, they'd call him out on his lies and wake people up to the fact that he employs illegal immigrants and sweatshop workers.

May 27, 2016 - 20:40

Jason Collins

there's been plenty of references to this in progressive alt-media and even in mainstream media m8

I think they're indignance is more that Trump is embracing a general anti-immigrant and in turn anti-minority sentiment in America for his own personal gain, which is on the one hand making open displays of violence and racism okay and on the other hand doing that in the interest of retarded ideas like Le Wall and an economic plan that is basically George W Bush 2.0

First of all I didn't say they were all Socialists I said that they were STARTING to swing harder Left thanks to, admittedly moderate, Socialists starting to come into the scene and a hardline focus on IdPol seeming to fall away.

Secondly nice "muh true socialism"

May 27, 2016 - 20:45

Elijah Davis

this shit terrifies me.

Shit got so bad they had to fucking call in Starship troopers

May 27, 2016 - 20:57

Austin Wilson

The thing I found interesting about those videos is that they pretty much prove that in America at least, your "free speech" or "free expression" extends only so far as the cops will allow it. Like in that one video everything was okay so long as those two groups of protesters were shitlfinging over that police car, which was literally a dividing line. After that line started to be crossed WOO WOO enormous swarm of cops come in and start shoving everyone out of there no matter who they're supporting.

I think it's events like these which are finally going to demonstrate to even more what the real enemy is.

May 27, 2016 - 21:10

Julian Miller

Gonna leave this here

May 27, 2016 - 21:15

Oliver Howard

Sauce?

May 27, 2016 - 21:20

Jordan Brooks

facebook.com/libtardmedia/videos/1692924684258215/

May 27, 2016 - 21:23

Nolan Myers

Thank you. This is probably one of the best video's I've seen.

May 27, 2016 - 21:24

Nathan Robinson

Make no mistake, there is going to be another Red Scare, whether these people are idpol or not. Just look at how much influence pol and the alt right has right now. I have a feeling Sorors, the Kochs and other elites like them, is planning this shit. Not some 'def ta wyte race' bullshit. Hartline resewing to fascism. It's not just happening in the west. Even loilbert's have said facism is a response to the 'far left'. They just forget it's also capitalism fighting back.

youtube.com/watch?v=W9wQ1RW0OIg

Look at the comments. Their righteous indignation should not be something taken lightly. The state has a heft following of new loyal subordinates, and it going to be Trump supporters., and possibly the children of these protesters.

This is why they fund socjus in education. To make people like this, and make literal Nazis seem pleasant in comparison, and it's working like a charm.
thoughtcatalog.com/joshua-goldberg/2014/12/when-social-justice-warriors-attack-one-tumblr-users-experience/

I'm done with my little conspiracy theory.

May 27, 2016 - 21:27

Anthony Thomas

Truly terrifying

May 27, 2016 - 21:28

Brandon Ramirez

I also found the youtube page of the guy who made it.

youtube.com/channel/UC9OVdKgPs1_WCIHCGrvXYHA

May 27, 2016 - 21:44

Kayden Reyes

That's what I was looking for. Thank you user.

May 27, 2016 - 21:45

Nathaniel Taylor

jacobinmag.com/2016/05/haiti-elections-hillary-clinton-fraud-corruption-earthquake-martelly/
Clinton's Long Shadow

Meanwhile, mammoth new slum areas have sprung up north of Port-au-Prince, a testament to the mind-boggling decision to prioritize building luxury hotels for foreign tourists, NGO workers and businesspeople over permanent housing for the over one million Haitians made homeless by the quake.
Daily rage

May 27, 2016 - 21:54

Nathan Brown

I pretty much 100 percent agree with you but I don't think the rising Leftism will go down as easy as in other Fascist States after it's eventual return. For one thing trump, while being quite authoritarian and advocating totalitarian policies, isn't 100 percent fascist, for one thing because he's too much of a flip flopper to be (I recognize that this is in itself a potential trait of a fascist but I mean more that he doesn't seem to have any distinct plan beneath the flip flopping and is just doing it to confuse)

On the other hand as someone said to me a while back, the youth are more interested in voting now and I think that will go beyond the Presidential election. There's going to be a very Progressive presence in congress soon and I think particularly if Trump is elected, which would raise some problems and make it hard for Trump to do half of what he wants, unless he just kills them outright, which is possible but I doubt it

May 27, 2016 - 22:13

Connor Sanchez

theintercept.com/2016/05/27/hillary-clinton-wont-say-how-much-goldman-sachs-ceo-invested-with-her-son-in-law/
Hillary Clinton Won’t Say How Much Goldman Sachs CEO Invested With Her Son-in-Law

May 27, 2016 - 22:14

Benjamin Gomez

Not necessarily, they could also create brand new inferior positions, with brand new genuinely inferior races to fill them. Most of the whole "transhumanist" circlejerk is extremely rightist in nature, not least of all the religiosity of its "rapture of the nerds" woo.

May 27, 2016 - 22:24

Justin Flores

You would be correct. Trump is a scammer through and through. I kinda do hope he does become president if Sanders doesn't get the nom. Not becuase of 'muh sellerashionizmzm!!!11!' but moreso to the fact that his most ardent supported will be outed as the cucks they are, that is unless they realize they've been had. The other reason is there is going to be another massive crash soon, no matter who becomes president. Jut look at what the banks are doing. Obviously, people are going to scapegoat rather then evaluate the system. Sanders not being in their would have this as one of the silver linings. Meanwhile, if Trump is in there, I think it's pretty obvious he won't handle it that well.

Still, theres allot of misinformation surrounding leftism, let alone socialism. Will it be possible to avoid or survive another red scare? Pic related. What of anarchism, has that been dragged through the mud as well?

May 27, 2016 - 22:41

Juan Ramirez

Also, I'm forgot about TPP. Just so happens there's all this commotion while this thing will be up for a final vote for ratification soon. I have a feeling those same guys I mentioned will be befitting shit loads from it too. Also, the net will be severely fucked.

May 27, 2016 - 22:44

Brayden White

The United States has a below net zero immigration rate with Mexico.

Talking about closing up the borders to deal with economic woes is classic nationalist demagoguery, especially considering that it's not actually founded on anything.

Also, what's with the term "limousine liberal"? There's nothing contradictory about wealthy capitalists.

May 27, 2016 - 22:46

Owen Hall

So Scott Adams was on Real Time tonight and he claimed that he's a trained hypnotist and that Trump is using persuasion tactics that he learned at hypnotism school. Is it possible that Trump has just been hypnotizing people all this time?

May 27, 2016 - 23:16

Brody Smith

No.

May 27, 2016 - 23:23

Kevin Foster

Trump chooses his words an action wisely to the point when he fucks up people think he is just trolling.
Hillary does the same thing.
They are all trained in Neuro-linguistic programming

May 27, 2016 - 23:27

Ryan Rogers

This is a hugely misleading distortion of a lie. At the absolute nadir of the recession, immigrant populations very briefly (slightly longer for Mexicans, but they started going up again eventually) dipped. Complicating things further, this is in no way an accurate estimation of "net migration", since NOBODY actually keeps records of emigration from the USA, so the decrease could be due in part or whole to practically anything, including increased deaths, evasiveness, or a decay in the doggedness of demographers during the period.

Also, keep in mind illegal immigration is tiny compared to legal immigration, and was also less than 1/10th its present volume until the '90s.

May 27, 2016 - 23:36

Christian Garcia

Stop it with this fucking meme. Just because a shitload of people are leaving doesn't mean there aren't people coming in and fucking with the economy. The two factors are not related.

May 27, 2016 - 23:41

Brandon Evans

...

May 27, 2016 - 23:50

Luke Nelson

I think the influence of Holla Forums and the Alt-Right is being a bit overestimated. I don't think there will Red Scare 2.0 either because while Trump is pretty Fascist, there's no way he's going to be able to do half of the shit he says he will. The President is not a dictator, shit doesn't work that way.

May 27, 2016 - 23:51

Josiah Hughes

I actually think there is a big resurgence or at least sympathesism to anarchist sentiment in the USA

May 28, 2016 - 00:26

Robert Perry

Isn't a wall supposed to take care of illegal border-crossings? Why are you bringing legal immigration into this now?

May 28, 2016 - 00:40

Blake Adams

This was posted in the Holla Forums thread. And they're using it as "evidence" that Bernie set up Trump, lmao.

May 28, 2016 - 03:07

Kevin Murphy

So Donald "politicall-incorrect" Trump is too much of a pussy to denounce this Bilderberg-like thing, he'd rather make up an excuse about a charity instead?
lmao

May 28, 2016 - 03:31

Caleb Collins

youtube.com/watch?&v=PvkMmsd3Vzc

This happened after a woman lecturing at the university resigned due to the fact he was allowed to give a talk by the Dean.

May 28, 2016 - 04:15

Asher Moore

Except the DNC wasn't thrilled about and also if they don't have anymore debates scheduled with him…so….

Since there are no more debates, there's nothing they can do about it.
My guess is the RNC had more to say about it to Trump.

democrats.org/post/dnc-to-sanction-six-presidential-primary-debates

He's kind of a crazy dick and shouldn't be trusted.

May 28, 2016 - 04:32

Connor Ortiz

...

May 28, 2016 - 04:37

Jackson Martin

...

May 28, 2016 - 04:54

Lucas Garcia

Not really, if that were actually true Sanders would be winning in a landslide.

May 28, 2016 - 05:07

Eli Lee

I have some majorly rightward leanings but am a transhumanist. For example I believe that blacks are generally less intelligent and despise affirmative action but see that as another positive about genetic engineering as it would solve that and make everyone have approximately equal baseline intelligence.

May 28, 2016 - 05:11

Aiden Smith

Why does the alt-right remind me of the good ol' satirical left?

May 28, 2016 - 05:17

Gavin Bennett

because they say the same things only one of them means it

May 28, 2016 - 05:22

Landon Price

...

May 28, 2016 - 05:31

Jack Torres

...

May 28, 2016 - 05:46

Evan Morris

He was losing open primary states too. You're just grasping for excuses at this point, college age kids just don't vote in the number we need them to. If they did the US would be a lot better off, particularly on the tech side.

May 28, 2016 - 05:50

Sebastian Phillips

You know, I can't tell if they are playing that ironically or not.

May 28, 2016 - 05:52

Adam Richardson

Poe's law in effect.

May 28, 2016 - 06:07

Oliver James

that doesn't work like that

May 28, 2016 - 06:13

Joseph Gray

10 out of fucking 10

May 28, 2016 - 07:02

Logan Reyes

reading the email megathread on reddit you'd think it was gay halloween with all the skeletons coming out of the closet

May 28, 2016 - 07:33

Levi Bailey

Milo is either some kind of genius opportunist or extremely lucky. He came by at just the right time, saw GG supporters getting hounded by the PC-liberal media and turned them into alt-right goons in a year.

This is the first time I'm seeing Milo fans all wearing MAGA caps. It's pretty messed up.

May 28, 2016 - 08:32

Connor Bailey

These rules only apply to inter-party debates. Not debates between both parties. They both have their own rules. Also, the links in that image are from last year & January. They say nothing about this situation, specifically. And the rules, as I mentioned, are inter-party for the primary; among themselves. It says nothing about rules between the two parties, or the general.

May 28, 2016 - 08:42

Jason Moore

Ah haha, I can only imagine he's thinking, "Turn that damn music down".

Hi, Holla Forums
Independents decide elections. And voter suppression is real. We have a very shitty system in place, which is why things stay shit.

t. hypnotist

May 28, 2016 - 08:49

Dylan Edwards

Yeah.
Most open primary states are in the deep south.
That really means nothing.

May 28, 2016 - 08:52

Ryder Mitchell

Mussolini was renowned for flip flopping.

May 28, 2016 - 08:53

Aaron Cruz

...

May 28, 2016 - 08:55

Xavier King

The CPD only governs the general elction debates, though. It's used to block third party candidates (Perot, Nader) from getting onto the debate in the general.

May 28, 2016 - 08:56

Joseph Reed

...

May 28, 2016 - 08:59

Chase Torres

They were just kids, gamer nerds from Holla Forums and reddit and neogaf. Politically ignorant contrarians. Of course they were infiltrated by Holla Forums. But it was Milo who converted them.

Now they're all Trump supporters. We need to think up some way to keep people from being seduced by the alt-right, not just shrug and say they were skinheads all along.

May 28, 2016 - 09:11

Nicholas Miller

Our best bet would be for Trump get elected and to fail badly. That would devastate Holla Forums, drive the masses away from such faggotry, and provide the opportunity for Sanders 2.0 in 2020.

May 28, 2016 - 09:33

Brandon Williams

People thought the same thing about Hitler when he came to power.

May 28, 2016 - 09:43

Ayden Miller

I'm not so sure the alt-right will be weakened so quickly. They benefit greatly from having a loud idol to gather behind, regardless of this idol's ability to make sound decisions. You would need a whole string of fuckups and another market crash just so they'll get a clue.

May 28, 2016 - 09:46

Cameron Gutierrez

Source?

May 28, 2016 - 09:48

Liam Flores

I was mistaken. Actually some right-wings and non-nazi fascists believed Hitler was their puppet.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_von_Papen

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_von_Schleicher

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Hugenberg

May 28, 2016 - 10:31

Parker Clark

They weren't. They were apolitical edgelords. It didn't have to be this way.

May 28, 2016 - 10:55

Liam Scott

That's what I'm counting on.

May 28, 2016 - 10:59

Josiah Foster

Remember people, it's the Leftists that are stupid.

May 28, 2016 - 11:05

Zachary Roberts

this. GG was like a triggering event that sparked all this alt right bullshit, from milo to trump to lauren southern.

May 28, 2016 - 11:08

Henry Roberts

we are pretty stupid for not being able to show the GGers that capitalism is the cause of all their problems in the game industry and game journalism. instead the mainstream left just believed all the bullshit the liberal press wrote about GG. it's our fault for not using vidya industry corruption as a teaching example. now a whole bunch of gamers and memers are stuck in a retard-level reactionary mindset.

May 28, 2016 - 11:14

Bentley Jones

msnbc.com/sites/msnbc/files/sandersletter_160527.jpg

Bernie challenges DNC credentials of Malloy and Frank

May 28, 2016 - 11:43

Angel Parker

Because the primary problem with Trump's wall isn't some supposed paucity of Mexicans (and others who enter via Mexico), but the fact that under current policy, the overwhelming majority of current immigration (and cross-border commuters) would continue to flood right in through its "great big beautiful door" with scalping papers in hand. If you want to criticize his "anti-immigration" policy, do it right, and honestly.

If his "cultural appropriation" lecture is anything like he promised with the indians, the triggering will be legendary.

Do I need to bring out the scatter graph again?

GG has almost nothing to do with capitalism, but with the social structure of most internet and entertainment production venues (for instance, two of the areas most infamously infested with aGGro filth are free online fora and free amateur game dev, two of the least capitalist things in the world). They are by and large arranged in such a way that parasitic cliques interested primarily in their own gain (true, this sometimes takes the form of money or political influence for hucksters like the LWs, but for the overwhelming majority of the parasites and their thralls, sheer virtue signaling attention whoredom is the only attraction) at the expense of the venue's intended purpose.

The problem is cultural, an unwillingness to defend one's things, places, activities, and friends against bullies who wish to exploit and destroy them simply because they are bullies and your society condones their behavior against you.

lol

Combined with the recanvassing, hopefully a major win in California will add the fuel to the DNC necessary for our spark to make it Bern.

May 28, 2016 - 12:01

Logan Stewart

...

May 28, 2016 - 12:03

Ethan Stewart

People are ignoring just how many in gamergate supported Bernie as well. I saw more support for him than Trump with that only changing once it became clear he wasn't going to win the nomination. Makes sense that they'd turn to Trump over Hillary with Hillary's legislative past when it comes to video games. Most Trump's done is make one shitty tweet in the wake of a school shooting.

May 28, 2016 - 12:07

Andrew Walker

...

May 28, 2016 - 12:11

Lincoln Cook

Would it? There's a large chunk of them that just sees Trump as a way to push things towards a direction where there views are more acceptable and they could get someone elected that they'd truly like.

May 28, 2016 - 12:12

Jaxon Sanders

their*

May 28, 2016 - 12:14

John Hill

Yes, that's the problem. Shifting the window towards the far right.

At the same time, the left will continue to focus on identity politics, with Trump as their punching bag. The media will continue to focus on this shit, over and over. Meanwhile, nobody pays attention to wallstreet.

When the media and the internet can't shut up about anything but identity politics and Trump, that's what everyone will have on their minds, over and over, 24/7. You'll see more "movements" (cult-like twitter mobs) spring up just to bicker back and forth about political correctness, obsessed with punishment and revenge in all the wrong directions.

We can't count on the far right to just keel over dead when Trump fucks up. Not in this environment. There have to be more safeguards put into place to prevent the growth of Holla Forums, while still steering people towards useful theory and ideas.

May 28, 2016 - 12:41

William Evans

Another big economic crash is guaranteed. The big banks are doing the exact same shit as before the last one, and their even bigger.

This is also something to consider.

May 28, 2016 - 12:43

Luke Butler

How do you feel about recent EU moves to ban all hate speech online?

May 28, 2016 - 12:45

Ian Cooper

This. People in GG threads were linking to streams of his speeches back when Jim Webb and Lincoln Chafee were still in the race.

May 28, 2016 - 12:59

Christopher Brooks

Apparently we didn't learn anything from Bush.

May 28, 2016 - 13:06

Charles Powell

Different user, here. But it's highly retarded. Policing speech never ends well. Only direct threats should be taken so seriously. And those are already covered by law; at least here in the states it is.

May 28, 2016 - 13:10

Liam Morales

Fuck yeah. Good on Bernie for this; it needed to be done. Let's hope now that they actually do something about it.

If they don't, the convention will be another shitshow, or worse.

May 28, 2016 - 13:14

Landon Nelson

And thanks for sharing this, user.

May 28, 2016 - 13:14

Jack Wright

I'm not talking a beer buddy. Holla Forums actually wants non-whites deported regardless of how they came here. They're fully aware that Trump won't do that and want to push the overton window further and further right until that view becomes socially acceptable. Don't think there's much chance of that actually being successful thankfully.

May 28, 2016 - 13:14

Xavier Green

Yeah, I think there are idiots voters from both standpoints. Ones that like the nationalism, and ones that don't care enough about policy & are entertained/like a drinking buddy.

We've gone far too right, for far too long. Thanks largely to the Clintons.

May 28, 2016 - 13:24

John Walker

tfw slavery was abolished by the Republican party

May 28, 2016 - 13:29

Gabriel Barnes

Well Lincoln did want to deport them as part of that.

May 28, 2016 - 13:31

Jayden Reyes

The parties' focuses have switched since those times.

May 28, 2016 - 13:32

Anthony Ortiz

Bernie on Bill Maher:
youtube.com/watch?v=m9AwjZWboIk

May 28, 2016 - 13:33

Luis Miller

Liberia was in part the result of that effort. It didn't turn out too great.

May 28, 2016 - 13:38

Christian Ward

Never said it was a great idea, just that deportation wasn't out of line with the viewpoint of the Republican party even during the time period that abolition occcurred.

May 28, 2016 - 13:40

Josiah Hughes

...

May 28, 2016 - 13:41

Juan Turner

It's basically a crowdsourced version of Gish Gallop

May 28, 2016 - 13:48

Brandon Hill

...

May 28, 2016 - 13:48

Christopher King

I don't think the two are comparable, though. At the time, there were some people promoting an ideology of American democratic republicanism somewhat comparable to that of 4th International global revolution, with many young nations of the time drawing inspiration from the US, down to the designs of their flags.

May 28, 2016 - 14:18

Lucas Reed

My choice of words was shit. The "safeguards" are things we need to put into place ourselves.

Redirect anyone disgusted by identity politics to Zizek, or Chomsky. Tell ancaps to watch Adam Curtis documentary All Watched Over By Machines of Loving Grace, and to listen to philosophy podcasts where speakers discuss Ayn Rand and conclude she didn't read philosophical works of any kind and was just generally retarded. This is just the most basic stuff I can think of right now.

May 28, 2016 - 15:08

Jose Bennett

How's California looking, everyone?

May 28, 2016 - 15:33

Austin Watson

Latest poll had it at a virtual tie

May 28, 2016 - 15:40

Julian Barnes

Which means he's probably fifteen points ahead before Democrat Vote Counting :^)

May 28, 2016 - 15:44

Levi Reed

kek Bernie needs like 85%+ to have a shot

gg

May 28, 2016 - 15:44

Jose Bell

That isn't true, but thanks for playing.

May 28, 2016 - 15:52

Tyler Myers

Are you saying that corrupt games journalist are leftist? This is a failure of the modern left that sided with a bunch of corrupt liberals instead of the average consumer. It's really very frustrating.

May 28, 2016 - 15:57

Easton Torres

it's true for the final nomination. unless hillary gets arrested or whatever.

May 28, 2016 - 16:06

Kayden Perry

It's looking less and less like an "if" but a "when" at this point. She's committed and admitted to committing multiple felonies. All we're waiting on is for the FBI to finish their investigation and for the DOJ to pull the trigger.

May 28, 2016 - 16:08

Jackson Barnes

Where did he say that? I certainly don't see it anywhere.

May 28, 2016 - 16:09

Jason Gray

Could always tell them that it's part of Soros' plan to make America head in the direction of fascism.

May 28, 2016 - 16:12

Kayden Cruz

Capitalism forces game journalists to suck publisher dick for favors. Capitalism incentivizes publishers to make massive-budget shitfests and then spend millions on marketing. Capitalism makes indie games a hobby and stomping ground for bourgeois and petit-bourgeois rainbow-hair children like Zoe Quinn. You were saying?

May 28, 2016 - 16:13

Henry Morales

67.4% average on all states.
If he gets 71.5% in Cali, ties in NJ and gets 67.4% everywhere else, for example he pulls ahead. which isn't going to happen
Hey, if we do as well in the final Oregon count and in Puerto Rico and don't wipe out in the Virgin Islands as I think we will, that number goes down to more like 63.2%. So here's hoping.

God, if that happens the Hilliar tears will be amazing. So much for Muh Poplar Boat.

May 28, 2016 - 16:46

Parker Morris

So you still on that Hillar- *cough* I mean Bernie campaign trail?

May 28, 2016 - 17:19

Brayden Carter

tmw Bernie endorses Hillary at the convention and you realize you've organized Hillary's whole grassroots game

May 28, 2016 - 17:21

Ian Torres

Bad posts.

May 28, 2016 - 18:03

Nicholas Foster

If you asked them, do you seriously think any would say, to a man, woman, or man pretending to be a woman, they weren't leftist?

All of this is true (in fact, I and a number of others shilled genuine labor unions to replace the disgustingly corrupt UMB mouthpiece and nexus of the aGGro blight that is the IGDA), but that still doesn't explain why capitalism-free areas of human endeavor like pseudonymous internet fora and amateur game dev (not to mention their ilk in other related hobbies, like free tabletop games, online SF/fantasy authorship/readers, webcomics, occidental weabooism, and indeed much of the organized left) are so incredibly vulnerable to the depredations of these parasitic attentionwhore cults and their white-knighting virtue signal suckup, and the imposition of PC policies that secure their conquests.

Outrageists and their petty non-issues are certainly magnified in effect under capitalist corruption, but it is a problem in and of itself. Regardless, we must directly attack it now if we are to have any hope of leftism becoming effective again.

Running as a write-in candidate would be pointless, but I really, REALLY hope he doesn't endorse Hillary or her VP/replacement after the DoJ/FBI rapes her, as that would damage Sanders' viability as an insurgent leader for the mangled remnants of the Democrats to crawl to under a Trump regime.

May 28, 2016 - 19:32

Zachary Bennett

I would feel incredibly betrayed if he endorsed her. Regardless of who wins, if this is what happens then I predict political apathy to soar.

May 28, 2016 - 19:46

Christopher Brown

So yugaiz, I thought this was pretty funny. The worst /r/ess mod by a large margin and that's really saying something stickied a negative Bernie Sanders article from Salon. What they didn't realize is that the entire article is attempting to defend Bernie's essay by pointing out the rest of his glowing record on assault on women written under a layer of sarcasm. It's actually a pretty good article. BUT, of course, Clintorides prove themselves- once again!- to be mentally incontinent.

reddit.com/r/enoughsandersspam/comments/4lim4g/a_day_to_remember_one_year_ago_today_bernies_rape/

May 28, 2016 - 19:56

Elijah Morgan

Hopy fucking shit. I hope he's enough of an absolute madman to go through with your scenario. Let Trump have the presidency (cough which is going to happen no matter how much he shills for her or her replacement cough), and organize the rebirth of the New Old Left for those 4 or 8 years. It would be the biggest "I told you so" moment in history.

No, I hope he DOES go full shill mode for her. It will only further dispel the fiction that he caused her to lose and that he was right.

but of course the optimal scenario is that we won't have to deal with any of this, which is looking more and more likely. when i first heard of Bernie i was planning to protest-support him and then all those other dipshits dropped out and people actually got really hype all at once, and i decided if other people were going to go all in then i should too

May 28, 2016 - 20:00

Isaiah Clark

Can I get an update on the Clinton server investigation? Anything works, as long as it's informative.

May 28, 2016 - 20:02

Andrew Hill

I can't believe this sickos are celebrating the rape of an old man. You should let the good people at SRS know about this. :^)

May 28, 2016 - 20:02

Xavier Gutierrez

There's no way that Hillary gets indicted. On the seemingly impossible chance that she is my faith in democracy will be restored.

May 28, 2016 - 20:03

Jayden Collins

Good evening. Today is Good Friday. There is no news. piano music

May 28, 2016 - 20:21

Leo Baker

What is going on in this post?

cough

Never.

May 28, 2016 - 23:53

Samuel Reyes

imageboards are victim to capitalism because they need money for server costs. amateur gamedev is fucked by capitalism because devs 1. need to be financially secure to do dev, and 2. they have financial incentives to go along with the corrupt cliques (free promotion, patreon, potential sales).

May 29, 2016 - 02:46

Carter Walker

Bernie Sanders has said countless times that he will support and work for the Democratic nominee whoever it may b. What this means is that unless a miracle happens in the next few states, the Bernie campaign is now the Hillary campaign. What does all that data entry after canvassing go to after the convention (it goes to Hillary's campaign says a VAN employee ). Where do all of the hardcore, I support whatever Bernie says people go when Bernie goes all in to Clinton? They go slowly into the Clinton campaign just as the PUMAs went into Obama's campaign in 2008.

If you missed the countless times Bernie has basically endorsed Hillary, and you truly don't think he will again at the convention moaning about the dangers of Trump, then you are seriously deluded.

I bet my entire life savings in Bitcoin he endorses Hillary yet again at the convention. That's who he is.

May 29, 2016 - 05:54

Jace Stewart

Bernie has said repeatedly, that in order for Hillary to get Bernie supporters, she'd have to develop a progressive platform. He's also said outright that she would have to agree to this platform.

But seeing as Hillary is in the midst of a serious scandal, one of the highest profile ones we've seen in a while, I'm guessing the superdelegates will end up switching to Bernie, if he doesn't win the lead in pledged delegates.

Hillary, I would guess, has access to his voting data. And don't forget, VAN wrongfully locked him out of accessing his own data, as a sneaky party move by DWS. There's even a lawsuit regarding that right now.

And Hillary has not won the nomination yet.

This is not 2008. Many things are different about this election than that one. It was much easier for those PUMAs to vote for Obama, as he was actually the better candidate in that case. Even still, Hillary remains to not be. And Obama had the overwhelming popular support, as well as the lead in pledged delegates. Hard to compare these situations, at all.

Lmao.

May 29, 2016 - 07:59

Connor Bennett

wooswoos pls go

May 29, 2016 - 10:04

Christian Cox

theguardian.com/us-news/2016/may/28/hillary-clinton-us-presidential-electiond-democrats
archive.is/TzH5C
Poor polls, scandal, a cussed rival … how it’s all going wrong for Hillary Clinton

May 29, 2016 - 10:36

Joshua Anderson

I really would hope that's not the case. I would lose all respect for her, having interacted with Clinton and knowing what he does know about her. Her cowardice in failing to endorse Bernie was already disappointing enough.

May 29, 2016 - 10:56

Jordan White

*knowing what she does know about her

May 29, 2016 - 10:56

Angel Wright

Two interesting new articles

dailykos.com/stories/2016/5/29/1532261/-Hello-Darkness-My-Old-Friend-Why-Hillary-Refuses-to-Debate-Sanders-Before-the-California-Primary

fair.org/home/538-sacrifices-integrity-to-go-after-sanders-on-independents/

May 29, 2016 - 11:36

Parker Foster

...

May 29, 2016 - 13:10

Asher Green

I'm not sure if it's just because they've been shilling for Hilling for a long time or because they're one of the sites CTR has targeted but that site is in CTR's pocket and the comments are cancer.

Before anyone says CTR isn't real, the easiest way to verify they are is to click on the accounts of people shilling against Bernie on facebook internet article comment pages. 9 times out of 10 that account has been inactive for years.

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

May 29, 2016 - 13:16

Kayden Butler

imageboards are fucked either way because of Holla Forums running wild.

you people popularized this site, but you did not resist Holla Forums infiltration when it mattered. you didn't care. you made a faustian pact for the sake of revenge without really knowing what you were doing.

you should have purged the Holla Forums hitchhikers as you migrated to this site, when you still had the chance. now they're all over the fucking place. Holla Forums, without anyone to tell them to fuck off, will spread their cancer to every corner of every imageboard and try to get as many dumb kids as possible to vote for Trump.

May 29, 2016 - 13:26

James Smith

Like I said, capitalism makes these things worse, but the underlying problem would exist even without it. Specifically, people with inferiority complexes aspiring toward those they think are "cooler" than them, thus creating an opportunity for social parasites to recruit them as white knights and betray their friends.

The extreme right is the only organized political entity opposing the outrageist clique who attack the hobby, and attack free speech online. It's like soliciting aid from the French against England during the revolutionary war, even if we're just pawns in a larger struggle to them; to us, they're the firepower we need to win.

Anyway, that's what politics is about, working together with people on issues you agree about, and working against people on issues you disagree about. Right?

May 29, 2016 - 13:51

Anthony Campbell

The right are outrageist and sperg out about degeneracy in vidya too all the time.
The only reason these sjws cared in the first place was because you were under fire from left wing sjws this time.

May 29, 2016 - 13:55

Austin Murphy

The mainstream right, yes. The extreme right? Not so often, more with the fundies, almost never with the lolberts. That's why linking up with Breitbart worked, but Fox would've been pointless. As for the brownshirt cosplayers on 8/pol/, I doubt their numbers (especially genuine stormniggers) and influence.

May 29, 2016 - 14:12

Aaron Nelson

Gamergate is dead, Gamergate remains dead. And we have killed it.

May 29, 2016 - 14:22

Juan James

Project Chanology is dead, the Anonymous Legion is dead, GamerGate is dead.
rip in pepperoni

May 29, 2016 - 14:28

Josiah Turner

Are you kidding? Did you see the spergouts these guys had over the fact that bioware games had Le gais now? Have you seen how many fucking times Holla Forumsyps call gamers degenerates?

GG were huge fucking idiots who bought into being the lapdogs for people who oppose the video gaming community and free speech just as much as the college liberal bogeyman they got upset with to begin with.

May 29, 2016 - 14:29

Zachary Evans

It has served its purpose. Before GG, the outrageists thought they were completely unopposed within the left except for lone malcontents, who could safely be smeared as some flavor of rightist (misogynist, racist, bigot, etc…) and dismissed. Now it is obvious to everyone including the outrageists that we are the majority, that we work together, and that we can hurt them. They must watch what they say, they must look among each other for our agents. They must, for the first time ever, fear.

The problem was the fact that "the gays" were used as ablative armor for the game, the corporation, and the clique. Each attack by us was responded to by forcing more and more homosexuality, worse and worse written, into the games. That kind of behavior was intended to shield the declining quality of their new Tumblr staff's "creative" output, intended to piss us off to create a distraction. They bit off more than they can chew.

May 29, 2016 - 14:44

Ryder Cook

[tips heartily]

May 29, 2016 - 14:55

Isaiah Sanchez

Someone cap this post.

May 29, 2016 - 15:00

Bentley Jones

Bernie is trying to get leverage out of Hillary but failing. It's just a desperate attempt by him to make his campaign mean something even though he said earliet many times that this race was't about a fruitless effort to push hillary to the left. If you don't think Hillary is going to make a hard right turn at least by the time she takes office you are smoking something, look at her fucking campaign staff and where they are from.

Leftypol is obsessed with Sanders' pre-congress career, but if you know anything about his career after he entered congress (like 30 years), you would know that he is now programmed to endorse and support dem nominees.

Again if you don't think bernie will endorse and support Hillary at the convention you are projecting waaayyyy too much on a liberal career politician who was mostly nominally independent for 30 years. Bernie is the left's Rand Paul, not Ron Paul.

Again I'd without question and easily bet my entire life savings that Bernie endorses Hillary and campaigns for her.

May 29, 2016 - 15:21

Austin Sanchez

gay post

May 29, 2016 - 15:25

Brandon Wilson

Nobody gives a fuck.

May 29, 2016 - 15:28

Angel Murphy

Why not the whole post?

May 29, 2016 - 15:30

Christian Ross

1. They collect white knights to pay for awful shit, SJWs are the biggest capitalist there is.
2. They would have no state or private capital media platform to use to intimidate people into going along with their shit.
3. All their problems would be solved and there would be no reason for them to stoop to such practices in the first place.
They would be so irrelevant to non-existent.

May 29, 2016 - 15:31

Robert Fisher

I thought it was too specific to the conversation at hand to be useful out of context.

May 29, 2016 - 15:35

Jaxon Jackson

If you are campaigning for Sanders, this stuff matters. The Sanders campaign isn't entirely the Hillary campaign yet, but it will become that.

May 29, 2016 - 15:40

Brody Walker

They attack identity politics with their own type of identity politics and wanting to silence speech which isn't theirs, have you seen them wanting the AssCreed game to be banned?
It's become pure culture war bullshit, when it didn't have to be.

May 29, 2016 - 15:40

Ryan Long

You're not objectively wrong, but you are a massive fucking faggot.

May 29, 2016 - 15:46

Alexander Thompson

Details? This sounds hilarious. I'm guessing it has nothing to do with the low quality of the product too.

May 29, 2016 - 15:48

Grayson Brooks

Besides AssCreed being shit, the game had Marx in it, so thats all you need to know.

May 29, 2016 - 15:50

Daniel Foster

I'm betting they were neutral about Marx as well, and they of course don;t like nuance.

May 29, 2016 - 15:54

Aaron Long

...

May 29, 2016 - 15:57

Easton Jackson

is*

May 29, 2016 - 15:58

Dominic Jones

More like retarded. I worded it terribly. I meant to ask if Asscreed was being neutral about Marx and polfags were triggered by it.

May 29, 2016 - 16:06

Luke Russell

Who the Hell said anything about this? We all know how shit she is, user.

What?

Lmao. How so?

Your post is full of retarded claims, that you can't even back up. And anyone who knows anything about politics & this election specifically, sees you're full of shit.

May 29, 2016 - 16:09

Dominic Cook

...

May 29, 2016 - 16:15

Angel Gonzalez

Oh my bad for the sperg, AssCreed presented Marx as some dumb liberal, not that they could tell anyways.
I do want to go back and say maybe some of the Alt-Right would be much better than the extreme right and polfags and don't fall the culture war shit but much of them have been converted into conservative nerds because Milo co-opted the movement.

May 29, 2016 - 16:17

Tyler Johnson

Please stop for a moment and reflect on what you just wrote

May 29, 2016 - 16:19

Jack Wright

That people do terrible shit for money?

May 29, 2016 - 16:20

Ian James

reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/3rncq9/confession_of_hillary_shill_from/

This came out before the news about CorrectTheRecord did.

If you ever think that anyone is actually as stupid as the Clintorides in the internet, remember this.

May 29, 2016 - 16:29

Jonathan Jackson

Yeah, I was shooting for sarcastically overblown like the last time I pasta'd it, but it came out too edgy sounding this time.

The reason why turd-wave feminism is so awful is specifically because all their problems have been solved to the extent feminism can solve them. If there were still real problems that feminism continued to be a useful tool for fixing, there would still be normal people involved at all levels, instead of screeching misandric lezbo trannies presiding over an officer corps of dilettante hipsters and masses of misinformed normalfags.

The same is true of all idpol causes in leftism today, genuine problems would make them less insane in aggregate.

May 29, 2016 - 16:39

Jaxon Moore

All their problems as in financial problems, I wasn't talking about feminist "problems".

May 29, 2016 - 16:49

Ayden Williams

youtube.com/watch?v=iDu8L-H1f3o

"TPP Has Failed American Jobs - Here Are the Numbers…"

I had no idea that the US government(us, really) is being sued by a Canadian company over the Keystone XL Pipeline being blocked. They're suing for $15 billion.
And "private tribunals"? This shit is downright c r e e p y.

May 29, 2016 - 16:54

Luke Sanders

twitter.com/Libertea2012/status/737065028310827008
This is very amusing.

May 29, 2016 - 16:55

Jace Martinez

DNC meme nuffin

May 29, 2016 - 16:57

Nolan Morales

Ah, that makes more sense. I kind of doubt, having seen it happen so many times, that such people aren't driven more by sociopathic powermongering than money, especially considering how rich a lot of them already are.

May 29, 2016 - 16:58

Charles Thompson

Apparently that's only in one county. They're supposed to randomly order them.

I realize the shenanigans we've faced before has kind of put us on permanent alert mode but it's not that deep this time.

In other possible shenanigans news, Puerto Rico is having its voting locations thirded. However, they went up drastically in 2008 because Hillary wanted turnout to be huge and campaigned extensively here but turnout wasn't that much higher and there was like 1 voting location for every 13 voters. So it doesn't look like that'll be an issue either. Here's hoping.

May 29, 2016 - 17:02

Oliver Morales

They did just say it was a dick move.

May 29, 2016 - 17:05

Ayden Mitchell

This is why more people, especially here, should be talking about TPP. At least in extent of updates.

Just look at what it will do to the internet.

Some meme about them not working for their money would go here I think.

May 29, 2016 - 17:06

Lincoln Lee

That is how capitalism works, billionaires that want to become bigger billionaires, even at the expense of the entire world.

Most of them are sociopaths just like their parents, and most of the time it is about money.

May 29, 2016 - 17:06

Josiah Martinez

Agreed. And the more you learn of it, the more insane it gets.

I can still remember everyone being freaked out by NAFTA. And yet, it passed. It seemed there was nothing people could do to stop it. And that's what seems the case now, as well.. I guess electing Bernie would be our best bet, because he'd be able to veto it, right?

There was a board that had a cyclical thread just for discussing the TPP & how we could try to back up info for when or before it happened. I forget which board, but I want to say Holla Forums, actually. This more than deserves it's own thread & an effort to inform others & do whatever we possibly can to combat it.

May 29, 2016 - 17:18

Adrian Price

Donald and Bernie both diss the TPP. I have a pretty good feeling it won't pass with those odds.

May 29, 2016 - 17:27

Ian Robinson

I think it's either v or gghq. There's one on V right now. Probably still a good idea to have one here too.

May 29, 2016 - 17:30

Brody Garcia

Yeah, I just have more faith in Bernie since Trump could directly benefit from this & other trade deals, being that he does business overseas.

Thanks. We definitely should have one here, too. I bet there'd be good convo & updates.

May 29, 2016 - 17:37

Kevin Walker

I should stress that it doesn't matter that much what president we have if we have a congress that's flooded with pro TPP shills.

Since this is a general election thread, perhaps some smaller elections should be broght up. Especially one's in the congress and such.

May 29, 2016 - 17:37

Henry Lewis

I always figured a dialectical/materialist take would be interesting in a video game, but I think it'll never be possible because the classcucks think it's somehow the end result of the feminazis.

May 29, 2016 - 17:40

David Hall

This, for sure. It helps having the Pres be on board, but what really matters is voting these fuckers out of Congress. A lot of people are fired up this season; we have to carry that momentum towards mid-terms as well.

May 29, 2016 - 17:40

Connor Perez

...

May 29, 2016 - 17:41

Eli Sanders

This.

One thing that bums me out about Holla Forums is that we're apparently just as blind to local politics as everyone else is. Local politics are crucial to successful leftism.

May 29, 2016 - 17:43

Camden Watson

We're surely going to get fucked in the long run. We just have to stave it off as long as possible.

Who knows, a revolution might come in the meantime.. We'll eventually hit such a low(I thought we had by now) that it should be inevitable.

May 29, 2016 - 17:43

Jonathan Jenkins

There's also rumor there going to do the vote on this shit deal in the lame duck session. So we will need to keep that in mind.

May 29, 2016 - 17:44

Wyatt Cooper

We all do. Every time. And yet it gets lower.

Maybe capitalism won't fall by itself.

May 29, 2016 - 17:46

Sebastian Ortiz

Dude, unless a revolution comes first we are going to hit either full-blown fascism from someone like Trump or a regression to feudalism from the lolberts. They are the only ideologies with anything like mainstream awareness that are offering solutions to a system that almost everyone realizes no longer works. And that's without going into how badly the environment will fuck things up. Depending on how quickly it goes bad and how bad it gets, feudalism may be the only option. Shit, we may go full tribal first, when infrastructure collapses and people can't get food at a grocery store any more.

May 29, 2016 - 17:48

Colton Edwards

Heads up, I made a thread for it. It will include local elections in there as well: 8ch.net/leftypol/res/704857.html

I'm thinking about Red Faction now, but that's probably not that good. The game certainly is though.

May 29, 2016 - 17:49

Isaiah White

There's been some good push & mentions in this thread about down ballot candidates, which is a good sign. The guy who's challenging DWS got a Sanders endorsement.I heard a good amount about the Pennsylvania progressive as well.

A good thing is, when the elections are held on the same day/ballot, most people research the candidates & vote for them as well. Although, I got my ballot in advance to be able to research. Most times the local candidates don't get enough airtime or publicity locally, for people to get to know them.

May 29, 2016 - 17:49

Jackson Cruz

Thanks user. It was needed.

May 29, 2016 - 17:54

Jeremiah Perry

Well that's a little hopeful. Think there will be a higher voter turnout for these local elections?

May 29, 2016 - 17:55

Lincoln Baker

danke, comr8

May 29, 2016 - 17:58

Luke Ortiz

Unfortunately, only a little, I think. In KY our voter turnout was only like 20% for the primaries. We really need voting laws like Canada(where your employer legally has to allow you enough time to vote) or a national holiday.. Something. I was happy to see my choice for Rep. won the primary, though.

May 29, 2016 - 17:59

Joshua Fisher

was the guy who one anti-TPP?

May 29, 2016 - 18:07

Grayson Ramirez

...

May 29, 2016 - 18:09

Mason James

Stop that

May 29, 2016 - 18:14

Sebastian Sullivan

…huh

May 29, 2016 - 18:14

Connor Rivera

I'm sick to the back teeth of people making baseless generalisations of this board. "Holla Forums is full of tankies", "Holla Forums is full of anarkids", "Holla Forums is full of brocialists", "Holla Forums is full of SJWs", "Holla Forums is full of revisionists", "Holla Forums is full of dogmatists". I wish people would just fucking accept that there's a wide range of opinions of this board instead of bringing their whinging about how not everyone agrees with them into everything.

May 29, 2016 - 18:17

Parker Rivera

Did you even read the post? It was about there being not much discussion of local politics.

May 29, 2016 - 18:21

Nathaniel Turner

Yes, I did read it. You are wrong. I've seen plenty of talk about local politics, albeit not specific to the USA.

May 29, 2016 - 18:34

David King

And then there's this shite:

Guess where this is from.

May 29, 2016 - 18:41

Colton Sanchez

ESS?

May 29, 2016 - 18:48

Carson Anderson

twitter.com/Snowden/status/736598960756948992

May 29, 2016 - 18:49

Jackson Mitchell

It's always ESS, fellow user. That's where I'm guessing too.

No, trust me. Every fucking time these idiots will call Bernie or his supporters a "communist" or a "socialist". They're not against him because they legitimately dislike him as a person or what he's doing or believe any of those pathetic smears or legitimately see him as a moonshot. They dislike him because they're politically retarded and would never vote for someone as left as he is anyway. It has everything to do with politics and nothing to do with policy or persona.

May 29, 2016 - 18:51

Daniel Green

fucking lulz.net actually

May 29, 2016 - 18:52

Liam Richardson

I don't even know what that is.
Sounds like a terrible meme-recycling site.

May 29, 2016 - 18:53

Blake Green

It's a furry imageboard, fam. I browse pretty much every imageboard out there. The site occasionally has some dank memes, but their political discussions are downright depressing.

It's just like the user said ealier, pol is fucking with all image boards.

May 29, 2016 - 18:57

Landon Davis

heatst.com/politics/deadbeat-donald-trump-manafort-admits-trump-campaign-out-of-cash/

My fucking sides, Trump's campaign is out of money.

May 29, 2016 - 18:58

Brody Gutierrez

Fucking called it, good work me.

May 29, 2016 - 19:01

Elijah Thomas

MUH SELF FUNDING

May 29, 2016 - 19:10

Isaac Wright

Glad I'm not the only one.

May 29, 2016 - 19:14

Anthony Lopez

….

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May 29, 2016 - 19:15

Connor Baker

So:

It all fits together.

May 29, 2016 - 19:18

Wyatt Brooks

TRUMP TRAIN OUT OF COAL BUT THE KOCH EXPRESS GON GIVE IT TO YA

May 29, 2016 - 19:37

Brody Green

Or George Soros. :^)

May 29, 2016 - 19:40

Jayden Cox

As neoliberalism's failure becomes increasingly evident, Clinton as president to enforce the status quo goes from ideal to preferable to necessary.

May 29, 2016 - 19:41

Parker Martinez

I'm starting to wonder if this whole subreddit isn't just some sort of satire. I mean they used to chuckle about how /r/politics/ would upvote pro-Clinton articles because they had anti-Clinton titles, and then they turn around and do the same thing but worse? And now:

W E W
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You team up with Trump supporters, gut everything that could be considered even remotely left-wing from the part to protect Clinton, and demand everyone fall in line and shut up and then claim it's your opposition that's not being team players?

May 29, 2016 - 21:11

Grayson Stewart

Lol @ the attempt to downplay an assault attempt though. I assure you that was not the action of some rabid Hillary supporter, there was money involved.

Fam you don't just make an account called Neckbeards4Bernie before even the first Democratic debate unless there's money involved. ESS was made a full 2 years ago, which would've been before Bernie even formed an exploratory committee. It was an early maneuver by the BrockBots to knock any serious contenders out of the race quickly and efficiently. O'Malley was completely ignored by ctr because he was never a threat. Bernie was.

May 29, 2016 - 21:29

Dylan Long

If Americans are going to be retarded enough to not vote for Bernie, then maybe we need a cold war with China or Russia or something, because I'm fucking telling you guys, If I can't biologically turn into a woman, then I'm afraid that I might turn into a monster.
We need to free the development of science and technology. I'm starting to think that Gorbachev was exceedingly worse than Stalin, and that reagen was the worst president in what might be the 2.5 hundered years of the history of the United States.
People are going out on school shootings over not getting pussy, and others are transitioning into women (I'm speaking of the ones who aren't 'born' gay). More than anything, we need an arms race that incentivizes software and genetic engineering to be made free. People are trying to figure out whether corporate peculiar fellows or government peculiar fellows are creepier. I could list hundereds more things related to sci and tech that you could all add to with other examples of things affecting our society that wouldn't be happening if we lived in a truly free and socialist society.
If we aren't going to be socialist, then we need to have some sort of an excuse to adopt some socialism for the sake of science so that we can defend our love for capitalism. I'm mad. If Bernie, doesn't run independent, then I'm voting Trump , because his fear of China and his idea that the 50s and 60s were the greatest times for muh freedoms, maybe he'll start a cold war and hopefully use our taxes to do things that can benifit us all. I don't even know. Maybe Hillary will instead. I'm drunk and fanatic right now tbqh fam-a-lam, pls respond

May 29, 2016 - 22:48

Jacob Butler

B R U H
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May 29, 2016 - 23:08

Kevin Mitchell

peculiar fellows indeed

May 29, 2016 - 23:08

Julian Rogers

But why would that happen? You came to that conclusion because you want socialism. Other people don't.

I share your despair, though user. Shit's fucked. TBH I think it's more important to vote in state and local elections. I was just reading up on my congressional district, and I might sign up as a volunteer for the democrat running here, who has basically no hope against the republicans. Maybe it'll help push the district toward swinging eventually.

May 29, 2016 - 23:12

Robert White

What the fuck else are we going to do?
I feel you though, much of it ends up becoming governme t secrets. But as Americans, we are seeing some very tumultuous times in society. Capitalism in our country is going to fall apart, and we might not have a beneficial socialism soon enough afterwards. We'll end up having some shitty war with white supremacists vs "commies".
We can achieve more together. Free college is some seriously underrated shit.

May 29, 2016 - 23:14

Luis Peterson

I definitely need to do some more political activism myself. I also need to start reading into genetics, because I have no idea how that shit works, and it's my responsibility to as a voter. We have to improve the conditions for ourselves and for everyone on this planet. We can't let capitalism be the new black death.

May 29, 2016 - 23:20

Jace Roberts

I don't trust that site.

May 30, 2016 - 02:27

Anthony Cox

RF was a fantastic engine, wasted on mediocre levels, with a plot that seemed way better in the preview outlines than the forgettable generic glop we got. Guerrilla was the only completely solid game in the series.

I'd be fascinated to hear the early stages of this primary I mostly ignored under the ennui of a looming Clinton II v. Bush III: Back from the Nineties contest.

Wow, yeah, that's surely gonna be a fruitful field of study, and not an impractically dangerous dead-end boondoggle like nuclear.

It's basically just a repost from Washington Examiner to clickbait that site.

May 30, 2016 - 02:44

Christian Cruz

washingtonpost.com/politics/judge-orders-release-of-internal-trump-university-documents/2016/05/28/2e960e5e-24f9-11e6-8690-f14ca9de2972_story.html

What a retard. Never talk shit about your judge. As much as he's been in court, you'd think he'd know this.

May 30, 2016 - 03:36

Andrew Roberts

Except he's not actually self funded.

May 30, 2016 - 05:23

Adam Ward

Lmao

May 30, 2016 - 05:45

Eli Myers

Soros funds more "left leaning" candidates & causes. The Kochs would be much more likely, here.

May 30, 2016 - 05:47

Brody Hernandez

this actually happens though

but it's fucking stupid how they say "bernie sanders? that guy will make us end up like venezuela"

the candidate that actually looks like chavez is donald trump

and people post shit like "look at venezuela. sanders wants america to look like this."

May 30, 2016 - 05:51

Camden Baker

I actually don't see a lot of these anymore. A lot of them moved to Holla Forums, which is why you see more anti-capitalist threads over there.
Still too many here but not nearly as many as there used to be.
I don't see how this is an insult, fam.
Not everyone here is an SJW but there's still too many of those types around here.
Meh, it's a toss up.
This one is actually completely accurate.

May 30, 2016 - 06:03

Jaxson Nguyen

Thanks for proving my point.

May 30, 2016 - 08:26

Juan Torres

Not really. I'm basically just providing an opinion. I'm not saying they shouldn't have the right speak just because I disagree.

May 30, 2016 - 08:33

Wyatt Anderson

BERNIE SANDERS TELLS PEOPLE NOT TO VOTE AGAINST ANY CANDIDATE!

youtube.com/watch?v=C6pR4uu4T3A

ABSOLUTE MADMAN!

May 30, 2016 - 08:47

Elijah Turner

ABSOLUTE MADMAN

May 30, 2016 - 10:42

Asher Ward

Point me to where I said that

May 30, 2016 - 11:00

Luke Wright

Dear ‘Men’ Who Vote Bernie Sanders: You’re not Men at All..
louderwithcrowder.com/dear-men-who-vote-bernie-sanders-youre-wimpy-and-gross/

Real Men Don't Vote Bernie Sanders
youtube.com/watch?v=Qvtdvxgp8M0

May 30, 2016 - 12:10

William Jenkins

how can somebody who writes this shit be of age to vote

May 30, 2016 - 12:15

Ryan Scott

as with almost all right-wing attacks on socialism, it more accurately describes capitalism

May 30, 2016 - 12:19

Liam Peterson

So are they going to indict hillary before the convention?

that's pretty much the only thing that could give me joy out of this election cycle.

May 30, 2016 - 12:20

Zachary Ortiz

this just in if you're paralysed and can't work you're a wimp that wants to take from those that hunt for you cannot

May 30, 2016 - 12:23

Liam Russell

Fucking christ just get cancer already.

May 30, 2016 - 12:26

Juan Sullivan

i used to be a believer in approaching all people of all viewpoints with an open mind, but the more i tried to apply this principle by communicating with right-wingers the more i saw the wisdom of the guillotine

May 30, 2016 - 12:28

Gavin Richardson

That first one is excellent. You got that operation whatever it's called?

May 30, 2016 - 12:34

Gabriel Carter

Kshama Sawant on Hillary Clinton, Capitalism, and prospects for the Left in America

youtube.com/watch?v=BA2R4DK25wA

What do you guys think of this woman? I've seen some disdain for Socialist Alternative here and I don't really know enough about the movement/organization to say one way or another but from this interview Sawant herself seems pretty based. She mentions Capitalism (not crony capitalism or corporatism or any other nonsense) several times and talks pretty dialectically for a SocDem

May 30, 2016 - 12:45

Christian Brooks

...

May 30, 2016 - 13:00

Luis Ross

He's paid for by the Koch bros.Which mrans he's paid to spread misinformation, propaganda & to dumb down some of our youngest voters.

When he got his ass kicked, it was because he was working with "Americans for Prosperity", and was fucking with union workers. They didn't take too kindly to it.

Then he went on rounds of media crying about the "union thugs" who assaulted him.

May 30, 2016 - 13:04

Evan Rivera

some woman wrote the article

May 30, 2016 - 13:08

Owen Hall

Didn't he also challenge the much-older guy that did it to some sort of MMA-style cage match?

May 30, 2016 - 13:08

Isaiah Morris

These same people blame Africa for being uncivilised.

May 30, 2016 - 13:09

Elijah Foster

...

May 30, 2016 - 13:11

Zachary Hall

that article was written by some woman on his site though

May 30, 2016 - 13:12

Levi Thomas

Lmao, I wouldn't be surprised.

May 30, 2016 - 13:12

Kayden Martin

Got it.

Still, he's hosting it & has been saying the same things.

May 30, 2016 - 13:13

Tyler Sullivan

That explains a lot.

May 30, 2016 - 13:13

Ian King

If we can get some evidence of that, that could BTFO many of his followers. Fox is owned by the Kochs I think.

May 30, 2016 - 13:15

Ayden Torres

muh soggy knees!!!

May 30, 2016 - 13:17

Ethan Morris

I'll look for direct links. But from doing the math, he's a loud advocate of capitalism & puts forward the same talking points as the lolbertarians made popular(Tea Party, funded & marketed by Koch bros.). Worked for & promoted AFP, actively working to promote anti-union propaganda. Him working for AFP is a direct enough link, for me.

May 30, 2016 - 13:19

Grayson Parker

And yeah, he used to work for FOX as well.

May 30, 2016 - 13:19

Dylan Howard

ebin

May 30, 2016 - 13:19

Wyatt Rodriguez

ಠ_ಠ

You are a disgusting woman hater. Women's opinions are just as valid as men's. More valid, in fact.

May 30, 2016 - 13:23

John Cox

I hope this bitch dies a virgin

May 30, 2016 - 13:53

Thomas Fisher

I agree.
They can be equally stupid.
More stupid, in fact.

May 30, 2016 - 13:56

Nathan Morales

csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/Decoder/2016/0530/Is-a-mystery-anti-Trump-candidate-about-to-enter-2016-race
archive.is/aC5ZS
Is a mystery anti-Trump candidate about to enter 2016 race?

looks like the party of freedom is here to stop Trump.
can pic related out debate him?

May 30, 2016 - 14:01

Parker Sanchez

I like how if you participate in the primaries and lose you're barred in some places from appearing on the ballot during the elections, but it's perfectly okay if you haven't even participated at all to suddenly swoop in and hop right on.

May 30, 2016 - 14:03

Austin Johnson

Stirner memes are the bet.

I look forward to the memes and dubs of truth.

May 30, 2016 - 14:09

Ryder Long

Was Trump a slick entryist all along?

May 30, 2016 - 14:19

Parker King

Who Said It? Which quote is worse?

"Taxes are too high, wages are too high. People have to go out, they have to work really hard, and they have to get into that upper stratum."

"When you’re white, you don’t know what it’s like to be poor."

May 30, 2016 - 14:53

Jack Evans

...

May 30, 2016 - 15:01

Sebastian Phillips

...

May 30, 2016 - 15:07

Tyler Taylor

Sanders clarified his position and statement. Trump however, did not.

May 30, 2016 - 15:08

Hudson Phillips

He did flip flop though.

May 30, 2016 - 15:13

Isaac Johnson

How so? He was talking about the black community when he made that comment, talking about the general sentiment they feel. It was worded wrong, and he of course didn't mean it like that. Ffs, his entire platform is about economic inequality, for all Americans.

May 30, 2016 - 15:16

Juan Jenkins

I was talking about Trumpepe:
youtube.com/watch?v=H3beT51_Y68

May 30, 2016 - 15:20

Chase Martin

My bad, I'm a bit defensive, lmao..

Thanks for the link.

May 30, 2016 - 15:23

Austin Parker

Anyone got some good anti-hillary propaganda? Post em

May 30, 2016 - 15:32

Dylan Wright

Everything Wrong With Donald Trump

youtube.com/watch?v=jLEIEm7WBLc

May 30, 2016 - 15:34

Gabriel Ward

He didnt even say this though

May 30, 2016 - 15:42

Juan Evans

He did, but it was an out-of-context part of a quote he made of someone else.

May 30, 2016 - 15:48

Xavier Turner

Trump Thinks Climate Change Is A Hoax Until It Threatens His Golf Course

youtube.com/watch?v=TZwgy5fSBBc

May 30, 2016 - 15:48

Dylan Evans

Well my point was that that has the middle part cut out.

May 30, 2016 - 16:01

Carson Kelly

so fucking lame.

most of these just describe business failures. trump would not be a better candidate if he was a better businessman.

May 30, 2016 - 16:49

Benjamin Hernandez

Yeah, this is fluff.

May 30, 2016 - 16:50

Levi Hughes

I hate using the term SJW, but this is literally SJW-tier writing.

May 30, 2016 - 16:52

Nathan Smith

I mean everybody understands that HRC and crew are leveraging feminism to win over people who don't actually care about feminism or women's rights but do care about not being told they are bad people, which is more important to liberals. That's how Matt Bruenig got fired

May 30, 2016 - 16:54

Brandon Kelly

Use reactionary identity politicians. IE RIPs.

May 30, 2016 - 16:57

Adrian Morales

Sanders is biggest spender of 2016 so far — generating millions for consultants

The small-dollar fundraising juggernaut that has kept Bernie Sanders’s insurgent White House bid afloat far longer than anticipated has generated another unexpected impact: a financial windfall for his team of Washington consultants.

By the end of March, the self-described democratic socialist senator from Vermont had spent nearly $166 million on his campaign — more than any other 2016 presidential contender, including rival Hillary Clinton. More than $91 million went to a small group of admakers and media buyers who produced a swarm of commercials and placed them on television, radio and online, according to a Washington Post analysis of Federal Election Commission reports.

While the vast majority of that money was passed along to television stations and websites to pay for the advertising, millions in fees were kept by the companies, The Post calculated. While it is impossible to determine precisely how much the top consultants have earned, FEC filings indicate the top three media firms have reaped payments of seven figures.

Sanders’s money blitz, fueled by a $27 average donation that he repeatedly touts, has improbably made the anti-billionaire populist the biggest spender so far in the election cycle. The campaign’s wealth has been a surprising boon for vendors across the country who signed on to his long-shot bid.

The large profits stem in part from the fact that no one in Sanders’s campaign imagined he would generate such enormous financial support. So unlike Clinton, he did not cap how much his consultants could earn in commissions from what was expected to be a bare-bones operation, according to campaign officials.

washingtonpost.com/politics/sanders-is-biggest-spender-of-2016-so-far--generating-millions-for-consultants/2016/04/28/600170ce-0cf2-11e6-a6b6-2e6de3695b0e_story.htm

May 30, 2016 - 19:14

Justin Ross

If he's got the dough to back it, what he should do now is focus on convincing currently decided delegates to change their mind instead of playing a statistical suicide numbers game.

Outside of the DP's core base of brainwashed pissants, Clinton is extremely unpopular and will throw away a tremendous opportunity granted by the failure of neoconservatism. Letting Sanders have the nomination means their party will remain popular.

May 30, 2016 - 19:20

Dylan Collins

I keep telling the red scare is coming back. :^/

May 30, 2016 - 19:33

Matthew Adams

so why are all these expensive consultants failing?

May 30, 2016 - 19:38

Zachary Evans

IT'S OFFICIAL
BERNIE SANDERS IS THE OFFICAL 2016 WIZARD CANDIDATE

May 30, 2016 - 19:41

Jason Smith

definitly looks lke a cunt that'd fuck a black guy so her child'd have a better chance getting into an Ivy League school.
Where were these bitches after 9/11?

May 30, 2016 - 19:44

Michael Bailey

she looks like the result of inbreeding.

Obama doesn't even meet the murican definition of socialism. Boomers can't die fast enough.

May 30, 2016 - 20:05

Thomas Miller

If you read anything else she's written, she's the typical "Women are weak and fragile creatures who can't do anything by themselves and need the big strong man to hold doors open and wipe their ass for them" conservative cunt. How fucking nauseating.

May 30, 2016 - 20:08

Lincoln Wright

...

May 30, 2016 - 23:26

Christian Brooks

...

May 30, 2016 - 23:28

David Bennett

Oy vey, Holla Forums was right!

May 30, 2016 - 23:41

Michael Moore

blog.parsely.com/post/3734/trump-does-not-drive-revenue/

May 30, 2016 - 23:45

Camden Thomas

I see no scandal here. He had to spend that money, because the MSM sure as hell wasn't going to advertise him like they did with Trump.

May 31, 2016 - 01:21

Carter Nelson

she's based all right

May 31, 2016 - 03:11

Thomas Reed

questioning a mans masculinity is the oldest trick in the advertising book.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU DONT DRINK COCA COLA?!
I THOUGH YOU WERE A MAN!

May 31, 2016 - 03:15

Matthew Lopez

when you are so deep into propaganda that your poetics defy the laws of nature

May 31, 2016 - 03:18

Connor Clark

...

May 31, 2016 - 04:10

Christian Barnes

It's no scandal. It's actually a really good thing. Proving that they don't need to sell out to fund their campaigns. Bernie's proved that with the right message & background, the people will fund you. And apparently, very well!

Btw, 404 not found. But I found another link. Oh, lol, the "html" was cut off at the end.
washingtonpost.com/politics/sanders-is-biggest-spender-of-2016-so-far--generating-millions-for-consultants/2016/04/28/600170ce-0cf2-11e6-a6b6-2e6de3695b0e_story.html

May 31, 2016 - 07:10

Chase Taylor

It's such a fucking sham too. All they're doing is appealing to your ego to make you work yourself death why she sits around like a princess. Who falls for this garbage?

May 31, 2016 - 09:10

Daniel King

CUCK CUCK CUCK CUCK CUCK CUCK CUCK CUCK CUCK

May 31, 2016 - 09:13

Jeremiah Hernandez

...

May 31, 2016 - 09:15

Noah Perez

Does the alt-right not realize that appealing to masculinity is a fallacy?

May 31, 2016 - 09:36

Lincoln Bennett

no

May 31, 2016 - 09:37

Dylan Hernandez

not if you have as big a dick as the alt right has, amirite?

May 31, 2016 - 09:44

James Morales

what the fuck happened to spongebob

May 31, 2016 - 09:52

Josiah Perry

What kind of fallacy, exactly? Because the alt-right's first and principal reason for existing is to augment the perceived masculinity of it's participants, not to actually develop thoughtful policies for the betterment of anyone other than maybe porky.

May 31, 2016 - 09:54

Colton Hughes

this

they're propagandized retards who are having their insecurities exploited by porky

May 31, 2016 - 10:07

Christian Foster

Their also trying to spread propaganda themselves, of course. I remember them talking about it almost a year ago.

May 31, 2016 - 10:09

Brody Jones

There's two kinds of propaganda - vertical propaganda and horizontal propaganda. All propaganda begins as vertical propaganda: something imposed from above by a well-connected or wealthy organization. If that vertical propaganda is successful, then it begins to spread by word of mouth among the people, becoming horizontal propaganda. If the vertical phase fails, the propaganda fails. If the vertical phase is successful, it spreads among the people like a contagion. Those "infected" will tend to believe that they have not been propagandized, but have been drawn into an "authentic" community of fellow believers. If they begin to cynically spread propaganda after this, they may be subconsciously aware that they have been propagandized and trying to take control of their situation by assuming the role of the propagandist.

May 31, 2016 - 10:20

Connor Lee

bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-36420434
California governor Jerry Brown endorses Hillary Clinton

youtube.com/watch?v=GoA_zY6tqQw

May 31, 2016 - 11:40

William Nelson

Well memed Jerry

May 31, 2016 - 11:41

Ethan Lopez

pottery

May 31, 2016 - 11:45

Hunter Morgan

New RNC ad rips Hilary's email scandal:
youtube.com/watch?v=4W7pGDT7B1A

May 31, 2016 - 13:11

Elijah Clark

I expect to hear more of this double talk as Hillary supporters try desperately to keep their jobs.

May 31, 2016 - 13:25

Gabriel Jenkins

Trump gonna win.

May 31, 2016 - 13:27

Christopher Price

Not if the DNC chooses a winner, which would be Bernie.

May 31, 2016 - 13:30

Camden Thomas

Clinton über alles

May 31, 2016 - 13:31

Jayden Rodriguez

God I can't wait until the Hilldenburg goes down in flames

May 31, 2016 - 13:33

Jace Gonzalez

they will never choose sanders

May 31, 2016 - 14:00

Joseph Wright

We don't know that. And he could still win the most delegates, which was a long shot at this point, until Hillary's scandal broke. That could give him what he needed to have blowouts in the next states up.

If they want to win the White House, they'd be smart to go with Sanders. Especially because of the "party unity" people who will vote blue, no matter who. It seems simple at this point, but who know what will happen in the coming weeks.

May 31, 2016 - 14:16

William Howard

i believe the bourgeoisie could stomach a party defeat if it means a class victory

for them, it's trump or clinton, but never sanders

May 31, 2016 - 14:49

Austin Moore

youtube.com/watch?v=HlINupg-8wE

"Identity politics isn't something that resonates like economic populism does."

I'm starting to gain hope.

May 31, 2016 - 14:54

Sebastian Brown

9gag memes everywhere. That website is corporate-run for sure.

Which one of you did this?

May 31, 2016 - 14:57

Christopher Rivera

That's a possibility & it wouldn't surprise me.

May 31, 2016 - 15:04

Lincoln Sanders

lmao

Why does this turn me on?

May 31, 2016 - 15:08

Charles Williams

Because asses are great, fam.

May 31, 2016 - 15:14

Christian Walker

Indubitably.

May 31, 2016 - 15:16

Eli Reyes

I'm more into giant boobs

May 31, 2016 - 15:17

Camden Hernandez

North Korea praises Trump and urges US voters to reject 'dull Hillary'
theguardian.com/world/2016/may/31/north-korea-praises-trump-and-urges-us-voters-to-reject-dull-hillary

May 31, 2016 - 15:18

Austin Butler

Bully all 2d girls

May 31, 2016 - 15:37

Jack Clark

Absolute mememan

May 31, 2016 - 15:38

Charles Allen

Election's over now, Trump is guaranteed to win once he gets the coveted Unruhe endorsement.

May 31, 2016 - 15:40

Hunter Edwards

Hey, just wondering, where's wobbly poster? I haven't seen him post, at least under that flag, ever since the Cali rally. Hope you're still with us!

May 31, 2016 - 15:40

Charles Green

>Party purge, mass executionsexpulsions for ideological disloyalty

One (probably unlikely) alternative is that they'll pick Sanders to replace her after her legal troubles eject her from the candidacy.

Maybe his cosplay porn folder ran dry

May 31, 2016 - 15:43

William Edwards

Today in news, absolute madman endorses absolute madman.

Also
Ya think?

May 31, 2016 - 15:43

Colton Hughes

Alright so I was going to make a separate thread for this but since there's already one Trump thread on the front page and it's largely devolved into total shitposting I've decided to ask this here

I need any economists or people well-read in economics to tell me where I'm getting anything wrong in my current study of Trump's proposed tax plan and where I could go further or what I'm missing. I've been studying it for the last couple of days as part of a larger effort to compile a large, relatively empirical (yes I know this is spooky but you'll see why it's necessary) dossier debunking Trump beyond "he's racist" or "he's a Nazi" or whatever so that I can give people interested in organizing protests against him or whatever more solid information that ties his fundamental problems back to class warfare and political naivete rather than the useless platitudes about hatred that have thus far been the main critique.

Okay my current understanding of Trump's tax plan and it's failures is this:

Trump's tax plan aims to ease the suffering of the middle class by simplifying the tax code through reduction of the brackets and simplification or abolition of some taxes themselves (income, estate, corporate). In theory, and there is evidence to support this, this would grow the American economy by increasing the after-tax income of individuals, which would in turn incentive them to save, invest, and work. This would supposedly have the dual effect of adding general economic growth and employment without adding to the National debt or deficit by giving them to buy goods and services from businesses that would now be producing domestically once again, therefore getting workers to work in and buy into their own country's market, growing the wealth of the entrepeneurs, who in turn would have a reason to keep jobs in the country.

The issue is that by focusing on providing relief for the middle class rather than helping it grow through tax hikes on the wealthy which would increase wages and passing laws that would regulate price gouging, speculation, and so on, the plan misses the point, as it does not take into account the past behavior of Corporate leaders and bankers when given tax cuts and deregulation, which more often than not led to choices on THEIR part such as the move to China which Trump has so heavily criticized.

On top of this, despite everyone in the country receiving a tax break and thus having incentive to work harder, save more, and invest more, the fact that it would disproportionately affect the wealthy and super wealthy (the richest people in the country would be taxed at 14 percent less than they currently are) creates yet another issue of the wealthy having vastly more capital to invest in their own sector, with no incentive to redistribute it to the middle and lower class through job creation or production. Thus Trump's tax plan can simply be seen as a gentrified version of the same old supply side-economics or "trickle down" economics we've seen since Reagan.

What do you guys think? Where am I fucking up here or where could I go farther? Please respond with critiques

May 31, 2016 - 15:48

Kevin Gutierrez

...

May 31, 2016 - 15:50

Matthew Gutierrez

he got vanned for being anti-freedom

May 31, 2016 - 15:55

Kayden Hill

text walls = reddit

May 31, 2016 - 15:56

Hudson Morales

>>>Holla Forums
>>>/tumblr/
>>>/gulag/

May 31, 2016 - 15:59

Jason Sanchez

Uh… who are you quoting?

May 31, 2016 - 16:01

Cameron Peterson

I know just who to start with. ;^)

I don't mean to sound like pol here, but damn is he a cuck for state capitalism. inb4 sectarian in-fighting

May 31, 2016 - 16:03

Landon Flores

...

May 31, 2016 - 16:08

John Martinez

I'm going to have to ask you clarify who you are quoting here again.

May 31, 2016 - 16:12

Brody Nguyen

Pls help guise, I don't know how this website works

May 31, 2016 - 16:13

Asher Diaz

I'm in a bit of a hurry now, so I'll respond in more detail later, but a quick look at Trump's tax proposal looks like a recycled version of various "flat tax" plans, stirred in alongside a potpourri of perennial porky gibmedats (AMT, inheritance, cut corporate taxes, cut top-end income taxes.)

Most of these have been debunked in detail years ago by leftist thinktanks, and there's probably dedicated articles on their Trump permutation by now, too. These are my favorite thinktanks for public finance issues:
cbpp.org/
ctj.org/

Thinktanks and other NGOs are usually the best place to find detailed and cogent analysis of any given issue, and are also where most news outlets and politicians source theirs from anyway.

May 31, 2016 - 16:32

Matthew Sanchez

Don't think tanks also make propaganda?

May 31, 2016 - 16:37

Andrew Hall

That's breddy goude. I'm no economists but I might add that "simplifying the tax code" is spooky as shit because all it means is that two people with a $100 difference in income will now be taxed very differently. Really, we should be calculating taxes not on brackets but on a function line, perhaps a logarithmic function.

May 31, 2016 - 16:39

Sebastian Mitchell

Who want to cap this glorious post?

May 31, 2016 - 16:54

Carson Sanchez

will look into this thanks m8

it depends on the tank

May 31, 2016 - 16:55

Jacob White

youtube.com/watch?v=jzA-NEmAQaQ

This video is actually from April, but it's a great layout regarding the Clinton email scandal. They have a former prosecutor on there, and he's making a strong case & explaining very well, the details of the case.

May 31, 2016 - 16:56

Ayden Rodriguez

Its True

May 31, 2016 - 16:56

Juan Watson

Stephen Hillenburg left the show after they made the movie.

May 31, 2016 - 17:21

Parker Morgan

It's more than just genetics. Here's a solid course on how complex the nature side of nature/nurture is and how the distinction is actually kind of spooky.
youtube.com/playlist?list=PL848F2368C90DDC3D

May 31, 2016 - 17:23

Lincoln Watson

Holla Forums are such giant spergs

May 31, 2016 - 17:28

Landon Lewis

That's how alt-right politics work, they glorious uprising at any dissenting opinion that more than a few people will hear.

youtube.com/watch?v=SE6jy78tV78

May 31, 2016 - 17:30

Jaxson Williams

Mate, that's way too much for the average American to understand. There are people who file their taxes on paper still. They'd look at thisg shit and go yell at Obongo for putting black magic in the tax code.

May 31, 2016 - 17:32

Carson Evans

time?

May 31, 2016 - 17:33

Jose Jenkins

18:30

May 31, 2016 - 17:38

Brayden Sullivan

...

May 31, 2016 - 17:38

Brody Lee

ty

May 31, 2016 - 17:39

Elijah Howard

It's at 18:40.
I don't know why you would bother though, these are two republicans.

May 31, 2016 - 17:39

Joseph Smith

ty

May 31, 2016 - 17:40

Justin Reed

Look at them down-votes. I hope someone makes a alt-right cringe/pwnage compilation someday.

They've already made one of sovereign citizens.

May 31, 2016 - 17:41

Joshua Powell

To be fair, the video was pretty stupid and failed to address why the people who spout "cuck" should probably kill themselves. NTR as a fetish is always going to be controversial.

But I strongly doubt most of the voters watched it. Bandwagon effect.

May 31, 2016 - 17:44

Benjamin Lopez

Fun fact: If Trump had debated Bernie, it would have meant he wouldn't have been allowed to debate Hillary due to contractual agreements between the Democrats and GOP for debates.

But I wouldn't expect bernouts to understand anything about contracts, or agreements, or economics

May 31, 2016 - 18:16

Caleb Martin

They do whatever the fuck they want, contracts are just a formality in the general, there's noway Hillary would turn down an opportunity to debate Trump.

May 31, 2016 - 18:20

Jack Brown

And It would take an ignorant Holla Forumsack to forget that hillary broke the fucking agreement by refusing to debate this month

Which is the whole reason the debate was gonna happen in the first place

May 31, 2016 - 18:24

Sebastian Richardson

Back to
>>>/liberty/

May 31, 2016 - 18:27

Noah Turner

...

May 31, 2016 - 18:28

Logan Campbell

One man's intelligence material is another's propaganda. Making good ammo is a serious business, never shrink from those who make it their business to do that for your cause.

It really isn't. The problem is that while people who bitch about it are almost invariably flat-taxers (targeting brackets, probably the simplest part of the entire tax code. Who here has heard the "If you make too much money the higher tax rate will mean you go home with less!" malarkey?).

99.99999% of what actually makes up the tax code's thousands of pages, thousands of man-hours necessary to parse it, and thousands of dollars to pay someone for that arduous process are in fact the host of write-offs, deductions, exemptions, exclusions, and credits that make up our tax expenditures. In fact, by far the single largest single spending "program" (and loophole magnet for accountants) on the budget is the $1.2 trillion of tax expenditures that go overwhelmingly to the rich:
cbpp.org/research/federal-tax/policy-basics-federal-tax-expenditures

There are a variety of proposals for reforming them, like turning them into credits, but perhaps the simplest would be to completely eliminate them. In order to solve deadfall loss for low-margin high-volume businesses, the entire corporate tax code (and its unavoidable loopholes) would also have to be eliminated, forcing all corporate profits through heightened personal income and capital gains taxes for their officers.

Alright, one by one. Trump's plan is as I said earlier, typical of Republican plans (especially flat ones) in that it generates nowhere near enough income to meet current revenue demands, causing $11.2 trillion in debt by 2026 with its hilariously gargantuan deficits (use the phrase "cut-and-spend Republican" to piss them off"). If challenged on this objection, you should expect something along the lines of "herp derp we'll cut spending!", pin them down on what exactly these supposed "cuts" will be and EXACTLY how big they'll be:
taxpolicycenter.org/publications/analysis-donald-trumps-tax-plan

Also, like all flat tax plans, it offers the carrot of decreased bottom-bracket rates to "compensate" for decreased top-bracket rates, but coyly fails to mention the logically obvious conclusion that this means more of the overall tax burden MUST shift onto the shoulders of the middle class. Here's a great debunking of a more extreme flat tax plan, but its analysis applies pretty much entirely to most flat tax plans:
itepnet.org/pdf/sale0904.pdf

Flat-out eliminating the AMT would be highly regressive, since 97% of AMT revenue is paid solely by the top 1%:
ctj.org/ctjreports/2012/04/the_alternative_minimum_tax_is_not_a_middle-class_tax.php
cbpp.org/research/alternative-approaches-to-amt-reform

Cutting or repealing taxes on inheritance, capital gains, or carried interest, is of course transparent wealthfare:
cbpp.org/research/federal-tax/eliminating-estate-tax-on-inherited-wealth-would-increase-deficits-and
cbpp.org/research/raising-todays-low-capital-gains-tax-rates-could-promote-economic-efficiency-and-fairness?fa=view&id=3837
cbpp.org/research/an-analysis-of-the-carried-interest-controversy

I realize he's trolling, but the fetish and the thing itself aren't the same thing.
Notice how it lines up almost literally with our use of "classcuck", while Holla Forums's most common use for political standpoint is pretty much unrelated

Like clockwork

May 31, 2016 - 21:11

Jaxon Sullivan

archive.is/7xSEE
It’s the height of irony that a socialist hero once synonymous with populist revolution has transformed into a regular old politician: a disingenuous backroom dealer who’s actually subverting the will of three million people who’ve spoken in favor of Hillary. Or do those votes not count because they come from the South (don’t get me started)? This is a sad and disappointing coda to a public service career spanning nearly three, 99-percent advocating decades.
We can't purge America fast enough.

May 31, 2016 - 21:58

Joseph Howard

Oh, one other thing that's crucial to understanding public finance debates. Notice how the tax that gets the most complaints in the media is federal taxes, particularly the individual income tax? That's because (even moreso minus FICA, which is honestly more of a savings mandate than a tax) it's by far one of the most progressive American taxes. Now notice al the bleating about how great shifting stuff to state/local government is? That's because their tax systems are biased heavily toward ultra-regressive ad valorum excises:
ctj.org/ctjreports/2016/04/read_in_pdf.php
usgovernmentrevenue.com/revenue_history

If you need more detail on why the latter point is so, ask any yuropoors out there, they're living the porky dream that is NATIONwide VAT:
taxresearch.org.uk/Documents/VATRegressive.pdf

May 31, 2016 - 22:18

Brody Sullivan

The easiest way to debunk tax cuts for the rich and trickle down bullshit is to point out that 70% of the US economy is consumption. Rich people don't go out with their tax cuts and buy millions of apples or tubes of toothpaste or pillowcases because there simply aren't that many rich people to use all those. They take their money and stick it in savings or a hedge fund. It is the consumers that are the backbone of the US economy and if they're too busy picking up the slack for government funding because the rich won't pay their share then the consumers can't go out and buy shit.

May 31, 2016 - 23:56

Dominic Adams

...

June 1, 2016 - 02:11

John Roberts

Holly shit. This is what Shillary supporters look like.

June 1, 2016 - 03:47

Anthony Barnes

archive.is/YkW8j

June 1, 2016 - 05:34

Brandon Butler

...

June 1, 2016 - 05:38

Ryder Jackson

Thanks a lot minorities .

June 1, 2016 - 05:42

Xavier Scott

Wasn't their an earlier poll that showed them in a dead tie?

June 1, 2016 - 05:43

Parker Fisher

...

June 1, 2016 - 08:48

Tyler Watson

Yes
The polls keep flipping between them being tied or a large gap
Very strange
Hopefully the fact the Clinton has decided to start campaigning in CA again means her private polling is showing a much more dire situation for her than we know.

June 1, 2016 - 08:50

Adam Anderson

archive.is/ZWjEH

June 1, 2016 - 11:34

Aaron Sanders

Man, you can just smell the porky radiating off this douche
that delusion though,
This was also just published on the same site and it's even worse IMO.
archive.is/v4Ogn

June 1, 2016 - 11:42

Leo Ramirez

Well, he used to write for The Economist.

June 1, 2016 - 11:47

Elijah Martinez

Nigga a log is not complicated, it's on almost every calculator.

June 1, 2016 - 12:10

Ian Martin

American education though

June 1, 2016 - 12:16

Michael Diaz

How do you respond to this?

June 1, 2016 - 14:13

Liam Morales

You call Alex Jones a retard and swiftly make it evident that even among people who aren't sympathetic to socialism, his analyses aren't considered up to par for serious thought.

June 1, 2016 - 14:15

Aaron Powell

That was pretty funny

June 1, 2016 - 14:20

Carson Stewart

Sounds airtight.

June 1, 2016 - 14:22

Isaac Reed

...

June 1, 2016 - 14:35

John Robinson

...

June 1, 2016 - 14:37

Tyler Moore

This is so surreal. Is this real? Is this reality we're in here?

June 1, 2016 - 14:42

Samuel Sanchez

If only.

June 1, 2016 - 14:43

Isaac Walker

kek like he cares about his hair

June 1, 2016 - 14:44

Christopher Roberts

...

June 1, 2016 - 14:46

Josiah Walker

[source?]

June 1, 2016 - 14:52

Jacob Cook

What Bernie Supporters Want
The Sanders campaign has been driven by class politics, not white male angst.
jacobinmag.com/2016/06/bernie-sanders-achen-bartels-white-men-krugman-election-clinton/

June 1, 2016 - 15:30

Cameron Roberts

Bernie Sanders Wins Vermont's Only Seat in Congress: Post-Election Speech (1990)
youtube.com/watch?v=alETnK6CKTI

June 1, 2016 - 15:31

Jonathan Parker

Shillary supporters BTFO

June 1, 2016 - 16:01

Dominic Lee

...

June 1, 2016 - 16:10

Levi Lopez

Corporations Shy Away From The Republican National Convention

youtube.com/watch?v=iqgFYGERiII

June 1, 2016 - 16:51

Noah Collins

more importantly, they can look up log tables, can't they? It aint hard:

Even someone educated in America could pull that off, couldn't they?

June 1, 2016 - 17:21

Robert Flores

Ex-fucking-actly, if we used a function like sane people all the tax literature would have extensive log tables, probably for every $100 increment up to $100,000. Anyone who makes more money than that knows how to look up a fucking online four-function calculator.

June 1, 2016 - 17:34

Matthew Mitchell

There are not enough keks in the world to respond to this. So the Clinton plan, which is essentially to continue Obama's legacy of getting nothing through Congress while gutting even more liberal sacred cows to appease the Republicans is somehow more "realistic"? Then again, I suppose you can't be murdered if you kill yourself.

But god there is so much wrong with the ideology behind the Clinton campaign I feel it may be just as dangerous to the Republic if not more so than the Trump campaign.

Also I was banned from all of Holla Forums for like a few hours no idea why that happened.

June 1, 2016 - 17:35

Hudson Russell

twitter.com/daveweigel/status/738063552599072770

June 1, 2016 - 18:33

Daniel Gutierrez

What's the straight dope on California?
Most polls have them tied down to the wire, some even have a modest but substantial lead for Clinton, but this doesn't line up with my experience of Californians. Almost all of these polls' sample sizes are in the triple-digits, none above the low quadruple-digits, and there are massive variables regarding voter registration rates this year compared to past years. Are there any bigger polls from the last few years about general political opinions throughout California that might provide illumination?

Do I live in a bubble, or are Californian Democrats much more classcucked than I thought?

They just can't help themselves, can they?

June 1, 2016 - 18:36

Caleb Nguyen

$$shit I'm inspired now fuck you$$
THE CLINTON ROADMAP FOR AMERICA (which she's already following)
>completely ignore puerto rico
This is why Sanders needs to win. FBI take the wheel and get us off this wild ride.

I wouldn't worry about polling at this stage. There's still a week, which was considered a long time in March and April, and most of these polls have out-of-whack demographics and other flaws.

June 1, 2016 - 18:59

Thomas Reyes

W-what did I do

June 1, 2016 - 19:22

Dylan Baker

...

June 1, 2016 - 19:27

Samuel Edwards

Guys.
Not trying to be a pessimist here, but…
California is definitely going to be rigged.
You think HRC would bother with all those "mishaps" in Arizona, Nevada and New York and then not have the resources or the comments decency to rig California, the most important one.

Fun stuff will be happening to the ballots. Wait and see.

June 1, 2016 - 19:31

James Roberts

Good. A Bernie presidency at this point would only work against us.

If another crash is coming like many comrades have claimed, it's better it happens under Trump or Clinton than Sanders.

June 1, 2016 - 19:35

Benjamin Russell

Well there's no crash coming so oh well bad post.
Not even to mention the fact that plenty of presidents have gone through economic downturn and been fondly remembered by Americans anyway, like Ronald Reagan, though technically it was due to him and not during him.

No reason to believe this. Arizona, Nevada and New York were all closed. California is not, and there will be external monitoring from the Center for Contemporary Journalism or something like that. Plus she thinks she's got everything in the bag.

June 1, 2016 - 20:15

William Perez

all of the factors that caused the 2008 crash have only gotten worse.
I highly doubt that will stop the DNC/Clinton camp, especially considering what they've been willing to do so far
Word on the street is that Clinton's team has been internally panicking, no one expected Sanders to make it this far.

June 1, 2016 - 20:20

Jacob Cox

...

June 1, 2016 - 20:56

Thomas Robinson

You're only proving my point sinner, there actually was another small downturn in I think 1933.

June 1, 2016 - 23:17

Samuel Flores

Reddit & Sanders

June 2, 2016 - 00:49

William Wright

...

June 2, 2016 - 00:50

Nicholas Smith

oink oink

June 2, 2016 - 02:41

Mason Scott

Awww
they're learning.

June 2, 2016 - 02:41

Parker Cooper

...

June 2, 2016 - 02:44

Anthony Cook

Are the normalfags waking up?

June 2, 2016 - 06:51

Nolan Jones

KILL
KILL
KILL

June 2, 2016 - 07:08

Lucas Martin

youtube.com/watch?v=hIdswgdrYQI

June 2, 2016 - 07:21

Samuel Thompson

...

June 2, 2016 - 07:28

Ethan Perry

I love how Chairman Dore breaks the ice in the beginning of this interview (teachers for Bernie). Wish I had that skill.
youtube.com/watch?v=2GRD_2kqNao

June 2, 2016 - 08:04

Benjamin Bennett

...

June 2, 2016 - 10:27

Dominic Wood

Wiccas for Bernie
youtube.com/watch?v=hwgWUYdCO5s

June 2, 2016 - 11:13

Christopher Thomas

"trump is a fag" - hillary Rodham clinton, democrat

June 2, 2016 - 11:34

Henry Peterson

Fidesz (Orbán's party) did this in 1990: "Please chose carefully!"

June 2, 2016 - 11:41

Caleb Lewis

I like the Adidas tracksuits. Yikes, though. How dense casually dismissive of gay people until it can win you votes do you have to be to greenlit this?

June 2, 2016 - 11:44

Brayden Phillips

I moreso get the feeling of 'hah yous a weak ol chump for talkin nise to dose udda guise! Be a mang and berate em!" Coming from the fucking cliton campagen…

June 2, 2016 - 11:48

John Myers

is wiccan magic the same as meme magic?

June 2, 2016 - 11:49

Nolan Jenkins

...

June 2, 2016 - 11:51

Joseph Nguyen

nah, it doesn't work
sadly

June 2, 2016 - 11:53

Luis Wood

Its basically saying, hah look at trump kissing another man, doesn't the mean he is weak and gay ha ha.
Also as someone mentioned Clinton met with dictators all the time.
Dont they still have the red phone in the white house?

June 2, 2016 - 11:58

Ian Baker

...

June 2, 2016 - 12:00

Julian Campbell

You are now picturing putin sending obama junk mail

June 2, 2016 - 12:00

Gabriel Kelly

Almost as stupid as christianity.

June 2, 2016 - 12:00

Camden Young

You realise the original message has nothing to do with homophobia, right?
Perhaps it does in the West, and maybe that's how it's being used here, but kissing on the lips used to be normal for friends outside of the Anglosphere.

June 2, 2016 - 12:07

Blake Wilson

Not pictures of his junk? ;^)

June 2, 2016 - 12:08

Eli Wood

source

June 2, 2016 - 12:09

Logan Bell

Bitch stole my motherfucking idea

June 2, 2016 - 12:10

Luis Turner

It's more stupid by any standard. The fact that fedoras tolerate paganism more signals the current ideological climate.

June 2, 2016 - 12:11

Christian Baker

Paganism ain't got no emancipatory potential fam

June 2, 2016 - 12:12

Xavier Ramirez

It's wasn't done by the Hillary campaign, it was done in Lithuania.

June 2, 2016 - 12:12

Josiah Nelson

Yes, but here it's being used in a context that ridicules or villainizes gay men's sexuality. That may not be the intent, but it should have been glaringly obvious it can be read that way. I'm not pissy over the original mural for being "homophobic".

They should have come up with a different way to portray it. Gay men have been depicted as predatory and villainous in the Western world (probably most of the world, tbh, I just don't know enough) for centuries. They didn't need to reference it.

Really, the bigger issue, is that Hillary herself likes dictators and corrupt governments as long as they work for her.

June 2, 2016 - 12:18

Christian Morris

archive.is/AsOOA
Why Bernie Sanders shouldn't be Hillary Clinton's VP pick
ha
hahahaha
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

June 2, 2016 - 12:23

Gabriel Robinson

kek
I don't mind though fuck being shillarys vp

June 2, 2016 - 12:25

Justin White

...

June 2, 2016 - 12:27

Luis Moore

...

June 2, 2016 - 12:32

Julian Walker

Nah, neofagens are much, much worse than Christards. One of them was probably raised from infancy to adulthood with every authority figure, peer, and greater society itself around them reenforcing a massive set of ancient multilayered spooks built up unbroken since the ancient mists of prehistory. The other probably had to fight their way free of said spooks, and having successfully gained freedom, decided to fight against every authority figure, peer, and greater society to re-opiate with a laughable and weak spook trivially dated back to 1921.

It's like the difference between being betrothed since conception to a harem in Saudi Arabia, versus a middle-class American teenager running away from home to become a crack whore.

This comes with all the respect in the world, but seriously: STFU, complaining about how p.r.o.b.l.e.m.a.t.i.c things are doesn't fly here.

June 2, 2016 - 12:33

Jose Foster

Y u so mean :'(

June 2, 2016 - 12:35

Jaxson Richardson

Rolled 6 (1d6)
Rolling Fireball (Hit on 4)

You aren't the boss of this board, kid.

June 2, 2016 - 12:44

Josiah James

According to Nietzsche even socialists have herd or slave morality. Seems to me he put blame on the former two instead of the economic system from which beliefs arise.

June 2, 2016 - 12:49

Easton Murphy

guys we need to look past this bullshit and see that Bill O'Reilly is the best Comrade in the MSM.
For the past twenty years Bill O'Reilly has been used the tried and true method of entryism. He has emulated the conservative demagogue so well that he is indistinguishable from the real thing. Some times this mask slips (see image) but I have no reason to believe he is not not pretending to be a conservative in order to burn down the system from the inside.
Prove me Wrong

June 2, 2016 - 13:23

Logan Garcia

well memed and ha ha
are you denying the service Bernie does to the left currently?

June 2, 2016 - 13:30

Ian Hughes

feck yourself taig

June 2, 2016 - 13:32

Nolan Nelson

no commissar sanders is the vanguard of the 21st century

>Bill O'Reilly was born Bill Ilyich O'Ulyanov

June 2, 2016 - 13:37

Lucas Clark

...

June 2, 2016 - 15:07

Tyler Ortiz

Anyone think they'd start crying in relief if Bernie wins the nom? That's what I got out of this. Excellent news.

June 2, 2016 - 15:19

Jackson Martinez

youtube.com/watch?v=JJEWdiBPGtQ

June 2, 2016 - 15:19

Robert Gray

Yeah because at least half the country was sucking his dick already. You think the entire ruling class wouldn't jump at Bernie at the first sign of an economic downturn?

The Great Depression happened before FDR took office. Is Hoover remembered fondly?

June 2, 2016 - 15:19

Dominic King

Die?

June 2, 2016 - 15:22

Christian Anderson

You weren't banned. I thought I might be, too, but there was some cloudflare bs or something going on yesterday. I couldn't post for hours & when it looked like I finally could, I had to leave. :( Glad it's fixed now.

Sucked seeing other people able to post & not be able to, that's why I though I was banned, too.

June 2, 2016 - 15:25

Jaxson Taylor

So.. Alex Jones?

June 2, 2016 - 15:26

Ian Lee

Sanders shouldn't run VP with her because it would totally betray the movement he has tried so hard to build.

June 2, 2016 - 15:58

Charles Ross

Haha, I thought of your drawing when I saw it, too.

June 2, 2016 - 16:26

Tyler Barnes

Here bud

June 2, 2016 - 16:34

Matthew Carter

What's going on with the site? Hotwheels pls fix

June 2, 2016 - 16:36

Dylan Hughes

youtube.com/watch?v=Lposy-amNGY

"Meet the Bernie Sanders Supporter Who Debated Bill Clinton for 30 Minutes at a New Mexico Restaurant"

I'm going to try to find the original clip, if there is one. I'd heard about this, but the media made it seem as though he had debated him during a rally or something.

June 2, 2016 - 16:54

Adrian Cooper

Tippity top kek

June 2, 2016 - 17:12

Levi Anderson

youtube.com/watch?v=xlDqptoRR28

"Hillary playing the "woman card" 13 times in a minute"
Lmao

June 2, 2016 - 17:31

Brody Wright

...

June 2, 2016 - 17:53

Hunter Hall

There'd likely still be more left-wing voters if Bernie ran vp. It just wouldn't feel as anti-establishment anymore. It would be like getting back together with your ex because you need him or her for reasons that a real relationship shouldn't be built on and you both know it. It't be like getting cucked, to put it in Holla Forums terms.
What matters is that tbe revolution stays alive, regardless of who becomes president this year. Hillary probably won't have a vp Bernie because it would just make bernouts an even more apparent thorn in her side. It would be funny to see, though.

June 2, 2016 - 18:21

Jacob Nelson

...

June 2, 2016 - 18:27

Tyler Myers

So fam, what's the update on cali polls?

June 2, 2016 - 19:31

Kayden Cooper

news.infoshop.org/opinion/what-emma-goldman-has-in-common-with-bernie-sanders
The time for Anarcho-Sandersism is now

June 2, 2016 - 19:34

Landon Garcia

Pretty much tied, last I heard.

June 2, 2016 - 19:49

Jonathan Bailey

...

June 2, 2016 - 21:24

Grayson Jones

Trump supporters being attacked, liberals butthurt

theguardian.com/us-news/live/2016/jun/02/donald-trump-san-jose-rally-protesters-clash-supporters

June 2, 2016 - 22:18

John Gray

liberals are pussies, more at 11.

June 2, 2016 - 22:25

Jack Ross

I'm pussying out a bit as well tbh.

Not from a generic "Freedom of speech/This will help him/Then you're just as bad as they are" angle, but from the point of view that I don't really want to see what type of force they can bring in response.

June 2, 2016 - 22:33

Joshua Young

Most Trump supporters are middle age, they can't do much

June 2, 2016 - 22:36

Ryder Davis

They have iron Mike Tyson on their side, though.

June 2, 2016 - 22:37

Angel Green

But he has the means for hired arms

June 2, 2016 - 22:42

Nicholas Bailey

Perfect. The second some personal trump security guard beats the shit out of a protestor we have our igniting image. Even a lot of class cucks don't like seeing people beaten by private security, and the ones who don't have a problem with it were never going to be on our side. Propaganda of the Deed.

June 2, 2016 - 23:04

James Morales

Oh, man talk about taking the fight to the real core of the problem here…

youtube.com/watch?v=EmBXNE8gZvI

Hey, I'm for antifa when they are fighting actual facists not just lumpenproles. This isn't the battle that needs to be fought.

June 2, 2016 - 23:07

Xavier Morgan

That shitdick is not a lumpenprole. He looks like every other Machiavellian San Jose alt-right techlord. Probably owns an app or some shit. Fuck him. Deserves a lot worse.

June 2, 2016 - 23:45

Landon Hall

youtu.be/zfGHhPHWVdk?t=29m19s

29:19 if the timestamp doesn't work. Trump literally comes out to Ride of the Valkyries by Wagner. Holy shit.

June 3, 2016 - 01:04

Jaxson Walker

M A D M A N
A A
D D
M M
A A
N N

June 3, 2016 - 01:20

Eli Jones

I feel the same for the most part. This sort of thing should be seen as a last resort, but more importantly, these sorts of events only gives them a sense of martyrdom, and makes them feel like their the ones in the right no matter what now, even if they are the ones igniting these skirmishes sometimes. Hell, there's even the claim that the protesters might be Soros funded.

Let's also not forget the rather typical now, 'le ebim all protester are SJW's' meme. Poor people fighting poor people, while the ruling class keeps making bank. I'm very tired.

June 3, 2016 - 04:52

Isaac Bennett

new poll showing Sanders ahead by 1 percentage point in California
thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/bernie-sanders-leads-hillary-clinton-new-poll-california

June 3, 2016 - 05:10

Jack Cook

that seems like something the streamer just added

June 3, 2016 - 05:11

Dylan Phillips

yeah, what's the point in fighting random powerless retards who are voting trump? if anything these people ought to be trying to intimidate or attack campaign staff on both Hillary and Trump's teams. but that's a pretty fast way to get your shit wrecked by secret service.

June 3, 2016 - 05:13

Lincoln Harris

This election cycle has been an education in psychology for me. One thing Trump supporters frequently do is accuse the opposition of being ugly while claiming their own side is very attractive.

If you survey the crowds neutrally, though, you'll find the split is pretty normal between above average, average and below average looking people, in both Trump and Sanders rallies.

It's confirmation bias writ large, but what's more disturbing is that they think this is in any way relevant. You could be the ugliest motherfucker in the world and still have the best policy positions.

Before this election cycle I wasn't aware just how many emotional reasoners there are.

June 3, 2016 - 05:16

Jace Kelly

It's basically feels VS reals, except, unlike usual college campuses, the roles have been reversed.

June 3, 2016 - 05:30

Sebastian Baker

right wingers arent better looking, we value aesthetics and beauty, and achievement, yes there are ugly right wingers but we want to be better.
While the left is a self help group for ugly fat niggers

June 3, 2016 - 06:06

Elijah Collins

this is memes

you are thinking in memes

June 3, 2016 - 07:01

Hudson Brooks

Thanks for your concern though. ;^)

June 3, 2016 - 07:07

John Turner

this

when marx talks about communist society, it is literally a society where everybody works to better themselves constantly, rather than spending all their energy ensuring some parasitic capitalist can buy a new yacht

most right-wingers merely buy into the meme that we already live in such a society and that the parasites got fat with wealth by being inherently better than everybody else, not a mixture of luck or opportunism

which is why it's ironic for them to use the cuck meme: unlike the left, they actually buy into the idea that their superiors are more entitled to a living than they are

that is the ultimate masochism

June 3, 2016 - 07:17

Jace Garcia

If you are a young person and you tell someone of the opposite sex that you are a socialist you are much more likely to get some action at the end of the evening.

June 3, 2016 - 07:17

Jackson Perry

It's seems like every shillary article starts that way

June 3, 2016 - 07:20

Liam Hill

Forgot pic

June 3, 2016 - 09:18

Parker Sanchez

That's going to be the worse if that happens.
I wouldn't be able to tolerate a victim tribute concert and candle light vigil for Trump babies.

June 3, 2016 - 09:57

Elijah Smith

*fit is what I meant.

June 3, 2016 - 10:04

Jose Ramirez

"A newly-trained California poll worker speaks out about her experience at her training session. She states that she and all other trainees were explicitly told to give provisional ballots to anyone registered NPP on election day. As we have seen in many other cases (Arizona, New York, etc.) provisional ballots can be thrown out. I repeat, there is no assurance provisional ballots will be counted. "

huffingtonpost.com/d-c-rutledge/attention-california-do-n_b_10263216.html

June 3, 2016 - 10:20

Jaxon Price

...

June 3, 2016 - 10:20

James Phillips

And yet people are screaming about le berniebros everywhere

June 3, 2016 - 10:41

Joseph Robinson

black block?

June 3, 2016 - 10:48

Charles Ross

What the fuck. They also cancelled conducting exit polls. It's gonna be a miracle if Bernie wins CA on paper.

June 3, 2016 - 11:17

Luke Murphy

hillary shooting straight up in polls.

June 3, 2016 - 11:42

Camden Butler

youtube.com/watch?v=FlEr2pf3xek

TYT second interview with the Bernster.

Question, does anyone have a Trump supporter fail montage?

June 3, 2016 - 11:59

Samuel Clark

More Liberal Media Purges
vox.com/2016/6/3/11853096/statement-on-emmett-rensin

Vox "suspends" writer for supporting anti-Trump protesters.

June 3, 2016 - 12:08

Mason Hernandez

The were a few vow writers making tweets. Was it the guy that said the cunt in this video was asking for it?

youtube.com/watch?v=oEMZSn8iLr4

Considering Vox spews feminist garbage articles everyday it would be a little hypocritical not to.

June 3, 2016 - 12:14

Jonathan Thompson

...

June 3, 2016 - 12:23

Ethan Cooper

I wonder if liberals will still be singing this tune of nonviolence when Trump inevitably loses the election (by a small margin, which will fuel "stolen election" conspiracies) and an extremely virulent and aggressive National Front is formed from the ashes of his movement.

June 3, 2016 - 12:27

Camden Foster

it won't matter because the liberals will all be purged in a sanders presidency :^)

June 3, 2016 - 12:28

Sebastian Gutierrez

Sorry, but it's Hillary's turn.

June 3, 2016 - 12:29

Christian Anderson

Trumpenproles are almost all old and dying. The huge majority of young people are Berniecrats or even further left. Bernie has more support from under 45s than the entire Republican field combined– and twice the support of Hillary. On top of that, Trumpenproles are poorly educated and socially isolated, so they are very bad at organizing. There is no real reason to fear a "Trump movement" in the long term.

June 3, 2016 - 12:36

Brayden Reyes

...

June 3, 2016 - 12:41

Sebastian Thomas

They only add fuel to the fire

June 3, 2016 - 12:46

Justin Flores

I think we underestimate the size, power and growth of the youth Alt-Right movement to our peril.

June 3, 2016 - 12:59

Mason Wright

Mostly due to one outlier poll that shows her up 9 while most of the other polls show her up by around 3.

June 3, 2016 - 13:19

Cameron Williams

Sorry, but I can't stomach anybody spouting this sort of tripe unless they're personally willing to be smashed in the face with a 2x4 and arrested at one of these symbolic acts.

June 3, 2016 - 14:42

Caleb Edwards

I wonder who it's really biased in favor of?

June 3, 2016 - 14:57

Lincoln Harris

Mate…

It's literally something like 99% of people. Most of the people supporting Sanders just have different criteria for what they want..

June 3, 2016 - 15:12

Brandon Martinez

"Surely this will show everyone that anarchy is about removing violence and coercion from the system!"
-anarkiddies

June 3, 2016 - 15:14

Ayden Cruz

Snowden on Trump vs. Bernie debate

twitter.com/Snowden/status/736598960756948992

June 3, 2016 - 15:41

Jaxon Wood

Yup, he just got disavowed by Holla Forums.

This is what being cucked is, putting your loyalty for a demagogue before your principle.

twitter.com/PhillipCMcGuire/status/736599182425870336?replies_view=true&cursor=ANAW8BPvOAo

Meanwhile he supports Trumpenstien, who want's to use his presidency to sue more people, and open up liable laws, and also supports NSA shit. These people are no different then SJW's.

June 3, 2016 - 15:59

Matthew Mitchell

youtube.com/watch?v=3dFDu5npgYA

June 3, 2016 - 16:03

Charles Collins

m.huffpost.com/us/entry/10242276.html

Maybe Hillary is more than just the lesser of two evils. Socialism is kind of hard to achieve when we're all dead.

June 3, 2016 - 16:06

Josiah Martin

Maybe all the extra heat will encourage them to get off their lazy asses and make iPhones like useful people

June 3, 2016 - 16:07

Adrian Thomas

it's literally just basement nerds. Trump barely got more youth votes than Cruz. Bernie eclipses all of them.

June 3, 2016 - 16:09

Evan Stewart

fuck off shill

June 3, 2016 - 16:09

Alexander Ross

First comment:

These people deserve to burn. They should be shipped to Cusco.

June 3, 2016 - 16:11

Juan Ortiz

BASED FRANK

June 3, 2016 - 16:12

Brody Campbell

Hillary Clinton doesn't dismiss climate change outright, it's true; but like with most causes addressed by liberals that don't affect the rich majorly their solutions are the least they can get away with without anyone noticing the problem is still not fixed.

There may be a lesser evil between Trump and Clinton, but you'll unlikely be able to determine it from their specific and incredibly similar policy proposals.

June 3, 2016 - 16:13

Daniel Brooks

telesurtv.net/english/news/US-Intelligence-Trump-a-Security-Risk-Clinton-Is-Investigated-20160603-0024.html
About eight senior security officials said Trump is brash and unpredictable, characteristics that make him a national security risk.

June 3, 2016 - 16:20

John Parker

This comment amuses me. I literally posted a picture here of me embracing Jimmy Dore and holding up a communist newsletter. But anyone who posits anything that runs counter to the narrative is a shill, always.

June 3, 2016 - 16:29

Juan Mitchell

How have you been here this long but still can't detect shitposting?

June 3, 2016 - 16:31

Colton Campbell

lmao, you're complaining about the "narrative" of an obscure leftist imageboard? fuck off m8. hillary is an evil cunt who's gonna invade iran and ruin millions of lives. if you vote for her you're a massive classcuck.

June 3, 2016 - 16:33

Angel King

This. Anyone who thinks a Shillary administration will do anything more than the Obama administration's lip service to curb global warming, even the USA's emissions alone, is utterly delusional.

June 3, 2016 - 16:36

Jayden Roberts

Hell, Trump might actually be lying to pander to the Repubtards..

youtube.com/watch?v=TZwgy5fSBBc

Hell, if he's serious about the wall, which is also doubtful, it may be because he wants to increase border security in advance because climate change will affect Mexico very heavily. I heard about this from a speakers about close to five years ago.

June 3, 2016 - 16:44

Ryder Stewart

...

June 3, 2016 - 16:50

Nolan Adams

I know comranon.

EITHER ONE WILL BRING US A WORLD OF SHIT

June 3, 2016 - 17:07

Ayden Wood

Bernie Sanders - Then and Now (1985-2015)

youtube.com/watch?v=nxRCnwqUrc8

June 3, 2016 - 18:09

Aiden Lopez

Hah, agreed.

Most have probably never seen or held a 2x4 either. Those things are heavy as Hell, definitely wouldn't want to get hit in the face with one.

June 3, 2016 - 19:22

Kevin Foster

….aaand I'm out!
youtube.com/watch?v=PIYFUlR-Qy0

June 4, 2016 - 00:19

Christian James

17.9 million Californians registered to vote—highest ever heading into a primary

June 4, 2016 - 00:40

Jose Davis

RDW on Trump, Berni, Hillary:
youtu.be/PU1GiQOcHS4?t=1099

June 4, 2016 - 01:00

Christopher Turner

They seem to have bought into this idea that Trump is the second coming of Hitler, and will support Hillary for that reason. At least Jimmy isn't buying that shit.

June 4, 2016 - 01:06

Aiden Collins

Notice when her eyes get buggy when she says anything related to being Secretary of State, like, "oh shit, please buy this & not remember how I botched national security". And she's still trying to take credit for the Iran deal that she was staunchly against at the time, I see.

She's just trying to deflect from her email/server scandal, and TYT seems to be allowing her.

That Ben guy is coming around more-so, now that they're entertaining Hillary more, too. Goddamn, that guy is such a crybaby.

June 4, 2016 - 01:36

Chase Butler

comrade Dore should split from TYT after bernie is done

you cant even passively support this shit

June 4, 2016 - 01:39

Bentley Cooper

You know he has his own Youtube channel?
"The Jimmy Dore Show"
youtube.com/user/TYTComedy

And I just now noticed the url being "TYTComedy" lmao

He does pretty good commentary, and it's funny as well. He used to be on the Bob & Tom show often, right? I seem to remember his name from there.

June 4, 2016 - 01:46

Jonathan Foster

And I agree. If it weren't for him calling this shit out, the panel might not have referenced the IG report or her terrible record. At least as passionately as they did afterwards.

June 4, 2016 - 01:48

Dominic Jenkins

Latest Bill Maher(I know, I know): allmyvideos.net/bxowlaglsbd7

This guy, Nick Hanauer, is pretty good. I'd recommend this interview. Apparently he invested all his money in Amazon when it was tiny & has made a killing. Now he's fighting for a living minimum wage & gives great reasoning. He basically just said that when in Idaho like 100 years ago, the townspeople killed their mayor because he was corrupt, they were acquitted. I don't want to give it away, but the commentary he gives on it & in general is pretty awesome.

June 4, 2016 - 01:53

Oliver Phillips

But opposing equal gay rights is not the same as opposing gay rights

:^)

June 4, 2016 - 01:54

Joseph Peterson

The interview is in the very beginning. You'll probably want to tune out after that, it's just Hillary fellating from there on out.

June 4, 2016 - 02:12

Jack Gray

youtube.com/watch?v=iIUMxyEgxCo

June 4, 2016 - 04:10

Henry Martin

archive.is/9i5qg

June 4, 2016 - 06:14

Samuel Clark

washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/15/military-survey-donald-trump-bernie-sanders-top-pr/
Notice how relatively unpopular she is among US military. She has to pay people to protest. Not that this makes Trump any less of a dirty shitbag, not at all. This election is just Americucks being Americucks, letting the rich and powerful get away with shit that we would not let a fellow worker get away with so easily.

June 4, 2016 - 07:12

Joseph Jenkins

Oldest Hillary video I've seen. She's always been an uppity cunt. She reminds me of my cousin.. Who was a selfish, sociopath & destruction followed everywhere she went. Just the smug expression on Hillary's face, is off-putting, to me & very familiar. I think we all know someone who reminds us of this.

youtube.com/watch?v=xwsT32K4qcQ

"Hillary Clinton Tried to Have this Video Banned - I Wonder Why"

June 4, 2016 - 07:36

Henry Bennett

that hellish static is art

June 4, 2016 - 07:42

Ian Lewis

A bit nostalgic as well

June 4, 2016 - 07:53

Brandon Campbell

Oh my, is this for real?

Hang in there yankees!

June 4, 2016 - 08:04

Gavin Gray

What's in this vid?

June 4, 2016 - 08:40

Kayden Moore

An old interview from 1978 or 1979 shortly after Bill Clinton became governor of Arkansas. She comes off like she has asperger's.

June 4, 2016 - 08:53

Adam Wood

It's bizarre that they're the channel that treats Bernie the most "fairly." I guess that's a testament to how much they hate Trump and Clinton.

June 4, 2016 - 08:56

Brody Miller

...

June 4, 2016 - 09:28

Matthew Brooks

Studyied economics for 6 years: 2 in college, 1 year unemployed, then 3 in university (joint degree w/ politics).

Trumps tax plan politically is as follows:

He must garner support from the lower-middle classes of whom are right-wing, 'libertarian' or Republican or all. He's unresticted by donors, but still has to keep the corporate media on side, and so has to offer things to the rich also to staisfy the media, and rich republicans. (their general reduction of taxes too)

To do this, along with keeping in line with 'supply-side' economics, he must propose a system that supposedly helps the poorest and the richest.
His claim will be that he can lower taxes for all (increasing disposable income which increases national income) and thus we will all be better off. Economically if this was the case, and had no worse drawbacks, then every developed nation would do it, but that's certainly not the case.

The best, and I think only real way to de-construct this, is to look at previous historic examples of where this was tried.
Best I can think of (which is quite lucky for me) would be Bush. He increased national debt massively and increased income inequality.

The most developed nations in the world currently (as defined by Human
Development Index) are by far the most that develop the people and infrastructure of a nation over countries which choose ruthless individualism.

I'll criticize your comment were appropriate

June 4, 2016 - 09:34

Parker Scott

It certainly would. Having higher disposable income (all else equal) leads to higher investment, consumer spending and working hours (compared to being unemployed). It may reduce the working hours overall, as more people have money (and so value leisure time more) but it's a small concern.

Yes. The more income into a nation, the more economic growth and employment.

It WOULD add to the national debt, even with the increase in tax revenues from higher consumer spending (say, if gov got ~20% vat from any purchase), the decrease in tax revenues directly takes out of the coffers. For every one dollar that is not taken from someone, a dollar doesn't enter the government coffers (ignoring keynesian/fiscal multiplier).

Ignoring the multiplier effects for now , for every $1 that increased the national income (from the higher disposable income), there would be $1 less in the coffers.

So whilst "lowering taxes expands the economy" is empirically true, you have to ask what the other costs are. In this case, the cost is the huge tax revenues lost. As the Us has crippling debt, and high growth compared to other OECD countries, this tax cut will be particularly ineffective as it worsens your already big problems (debt) and strengthens something which you realistically don't want to be over where it is atm (economic growth of ~2% in the Us is better than most other OECD countries atm, and that's the be expected). Economic growth atm, doesn't want to be any higher (unless ofc you can do it without costs, which is unrealistic) than it is. If you were in recession, that tax plan may help raise the economy slightly but would still costs you loads in lower government revenue

June 4, 2016 - 10:15

Christian Long

Fantasy. Despite what Adam Smith said about capitalists : "invisible hand means englishman invests in england.", they invest in the place that is most profitable, for least risk.

Just because Americans have even a 10% rise in disposable income from this cut (probably much lower than 10%) will not make corporations move production back home.
It will barely register in their profit detectors.

The idea that a country having slightly more demand for products will bring production home is nonsensical. Conversely, Americans import much more than they export relative and actually. With increased disposable income, they would import a lot more (which directly leads to loss of economic growth) and production will remain in China, and Indonesia and Japan.

June 4, 2016 - 10:16

Adrian Bailey

HERE IS THE LOGICAL JUMP WHICH ISN'T JUSTIFIED ECONOMICALLY

Increasing incomes of any nation does almost nothing for bringing back production to a nation. Fact.

There may be some smaller effects, like there may be one person who owns a shop saying: "oh my, people seem a bit richer again, i'll open up the shop now the economy seems good"

The actual effects of tax cuts on bring back production is almost, if not Zero.

even with entrepeneurs being more wealthy, they have no reason to keep it in their country, rationally. And when it comes to taxes, everyone is "rational" (Read that as paying 45k for a lawyer to acquire 46k from your mate who you've sued).

Let's talk about moving factories overseas:

Say it costs 500k to run a chinese factory
It costs 1 million to run a american factory.
Both factories produce the quality and quality of output.

The only reason why any businessman would pick the american site would be because transportation (from the production plant to the shop it's sold in) costs mean its cheaper to.

If the american site has 0 transportation costs, but the chinese has 510k transportation costs, then a businessman would pick america. If less than 500k, he would pick china. Simply profit.

An increase of 10% of a nations income would only effect production which has extremely high transportation costs.

Take cars, and plastic toys as an example.

Cars are heavy and expensive to transport. They're made in America, not because of cheap labourers (Japan/south korea is much better) but because as soon as they're made, the can be sold across the road for little transport cost.

Car manufacturing may be helped slightly by higher income levels in the US (Henry Ford example with higher wages for more sales) but the vast majority of production has very little transport costs (effect of globalization and technological advances) and so for the vast majority of production, production will not move back to America because Americans now have more money. They'll continue to produce in china, transport for little costs then sell them to America.

There's simply no reason to produce in America with their wages at that rate when they have china.

June 4, 2016 - 10:16

Lucas Parker

Wasn't it last week that they said his campaign was now broke and he had to start courting donors?

June 4, 2016 - 10:57

Dylan Ramirez

telesurtv.net/english/news/Can-Bernie-Sanders-Still-Win-Victory-Depends-on-Superdelegates-20160604-0010.html
Can Bernie Sanders Still Win? Victory Depends on Superdelegates

June 4, 2016 - 10:59

Jason Butler

secular talk on the same topic: youtube.com/watch?v=41VRwUMtTUc

June 4, 2016 - 11:07

Zachary Taylor

Looking forward to the completely out in the open rigging that is going to occur.

June 4, 2016 - 11:26

Gabriel Campbell

I've heard that he's been self-funded for most of his campaign, and I keep up with American politics a lot, but I could well be wrong or haven't heard what you're on about. Would it really surprise anyone if he was funded by other like minded dickheads?

To the point though, would it change his allegiances? I doubt. I'd love to hear otherwise though.

June 4, 2016 - 12:09

Jack Watson

for people who shit on and on about beta/alpha dichotomy, they are the most slavish band of alpha worshipers imaginable, the definition of a beta male

pathetic

June 4, 2016 - 13:01

Connor Cook

Was 'Trump University' A Scam?
youtube.com/watch?v=037IW8qBY7U
TL;DR
Yes absolutely

highlights

June 4, 2016 - 13:18

Ryder Hernandez

user, from where do you think their obsession with cucking, "anuddah shoah" and the likes comes from?

June 4, 2016 - 13:21

Justin Morgan

faggots not knowing what the fuck an "argument" is

a rhetorical device in itself isn't a fucking "argument" and anyone that isn't a fucking pseudointellectual educated by jpegs and dreck memes could tell that

June 4, 2016 - 13:34

Evan Powell

I think that's actually a long story, but I'll try to keep it short.

Most of the alt-right are the poorly socialized children of the middle class. They had no community to fall back on but lots of time to spend on the internet. Anders Breivik would be a case in point: not much social or romantic success, lots of time playing WoW. During late adolescence and young adulthood, these men would have discovered the growing manosphere and seduction community. Neither were necessarily right-wing, but the right-wing elements would eventually form the alt-right.

The evolutionary psychology used by pick-up artists within the manosphere morphed into "race realism" very easily. This is because there was already overlap between these pick-up artists and what became the alt-right. One of the more prominent members of the manosphere at that time was pick-up artist roissy/heartiste, who in the beginning made veiled attacks on Jews which became more overt as time went by. He also wrote screeds against the "Cultural Marxist" establishment.

The beta/alpha distinction grew out of pick-up artist culture. It would be an exaggeration to call the alt-right a "cult of masculinity", but a big motivator for these people is masculine insecurity. For the original fascists, the humiliation of defeat in war motivated them to seek power. For this generation, it is the humiliation brought on by their poor socialization. This humiliation can be remedied by identifying with an alpha male leader who promises the community one lacked and all the "fun" that you missed out on.

"Cuckold" is their preferred insult because it is what they fear becoming: emasculated and deprived of pleasure. Their journey into the alt-right began after all as a pursuit of pleasure (seduction) and a sense of masculinity (manosphere).

Note: I am not saying that the seduction community is inherently right-wing or that the manosphere is/was inherently right-wing, but right-wing elements existed in both communities and those elements were eventually siphoned into the alt-right.

June 4, 2016 - 14:21

Ryan Hall

democrat supporters are pushing this so hard, but I bite my lip everytime I want to mention the teabaggers also compared Obama to Hitler.

June 4, 2016 - 14:55

Jonathan Stewart

Hitler versus Stalin

June 4, 2016 - 15:02

Xavier Collins

tfw it reminds you of your sister

June 4, 2016 - 15:05

Tyler Reed

This should seriously be archived.
Really don't like this term though. Sounds a bit feministy.

June 4, 2016 - 15:18

Easton Sanchez

I sighed heavily.

June 4, 2016 - 15:30

Jacob Adams

It's what they call themselves.

June 4, 2016 - 15:39

Camden Scott

Here's what a member of the "manosphere" wrote about the phenomenon. I think it supports your post comrade.
sheddingoftheego.com/2016/01/29/2552/

June 4, 2016 - 15:44

Cooper Perry

it's MLK all over again

June 4, 2016 - 15:47

Daniel Williams

I had to go look at this woman's twitter feed. She has at least one post telling people not to say they love Muhammad Ali if they're pro-war or anti-black. Meanwhile, she supports Hillary Clinton for president.

June 4, 2016 - 15:58

Dominic Mitchell

But user, don't you realize that war is a good thing as long as we have equal representation of all races/genders doing the killing?
That's the magic of intersectional third-wave feminism.

June 4, 2016 - 16:07

Camden Roberts

This. They came up with it. I hate the term too.

June 4, 2016 - 16:21

Colton Perry

...

June 4, 2016 - 16:30

Aiden Bell

Of course Hillary Clinton is a woman. Which means she's automatically superior to every male candidate and should receive your support without question.

June 4, 2016 - 16:36

Joshua Adams

Fuck, that was a rethorical question.
I love you guys.

June 4, 2016 - 16:43

Caleb Hall

Rabbi Daniel Lapin believes Trump was sent by God himself
youtube.com/watch?v=6DljscQuzvA

June 4, 2016 - 18:03

Andrew Jenkins

...

June 4, 2016 - 18:29

Kayden Price

That's only part of it.

The most insane part of the alt-right, the "Dark Enlightenment" people, partly grew out of the "techno-libertarian" philosophy of Silicon Valley.

Sometimes called "the Californian Ideology", after the essay from media theorists Richard Barbrook and Andy Cameron (a highly recommended read btw). A strange mixture combining one part 60's counterculture to one part 80's yuppie-dom to two parts Ayn Rand (with a hint of Marshall McLuhan for good measure). Silicon Valley executives, especially during the dot-com boom, believed in creating a post-capitalist information economy where everyone could use technology to pull themselves from their bootstraps and become Randian heroes.

Of course, this Utopian technological optimism has led to increased social stratification. And despite it's revolutionary posturing, it was really a form of reactionary modernism.

Eventually, this ideology mutated into the "Dark Enlightenment". Abandoning the classical liberalism of the Californian Ideology, some people in the Silicon Valley started believing that democracy (not just liberal democracy, but all forms of democracy) was keeping them (oh, I'm sorry, I mean the Randian heroes of the world) from taking their rightful place as rulers. And then, washed-up cyberpunk casualty Nick Land gave it a name, a bunch of Silicon Valley office drones started writing their manifesto, and now a bunch of edgy teenagers are convinced that they are the true rulers of the Earth because FUCK YOU MOM IT'S NOT A PHASE

June 4, 2016 - 18:51

Ayden Kelly

This isn't really some kind of dilemma for nazis

June 4, 2016 - 19:32

Mason Reed

The Dark Enlightenment is guillotine food.

The blade hungers and it will be satisfied.

June 4, 2016 - 19:39

Christopher Walker

Fuck yes it will

June 4, 2016 - 19:40

Hunter Jenkins

These people just fill me with an insatiable hateful rage.

This whole attempt to spin Hillary Clinton as not only a progressive candidate but the more progressive candidate is just mind-boggling. And people just eat this shit up. They're the weakest fucking arguments but they fulfill the basic requirements of political talking points these days: they make the speaker feel good while costing them as little as possible.

Fuck this goddamn country. Maybe Posadas and Che were right.

June 4, 2016 - 19:45

Angel Rogers

Jesus Christ, the memes

June 4, 2016 - 19:49

Brayden Williams

...

June 4, 2016 - 19:54

Cooper White

...

June 4, 2016 - 20:39

Mason Thompson

Posadas was always right.
Even when it came to Dolphins

June 4, 2016 - 20:42

Nolan Torres

And in the end their still mindless consumers and only rarely workers. Maybe the next collapse with straighten them out? Nah.

June 4, 2016 - 20:54

James Rivera

...

June 5, 2016 - 04:52

Ryan Rodriguez

This Race is Not Over | Bernie Sanders
youtube.com/watch?v=CyB5ess2Dl0

June 5, 2016 - 06:04

Dylan Reed

PSA
Making threads to try and convince people to vote for Trump or Hillary, for any reason, is not allowed. Trumpshills or Hillarycunts can post their bullshit ITT if they really want. Otherwise it'll get bump locked or deleted.

June 5, 2016 - 06:22

Leo Collins

...

June 5, 2016 - 07:24

Asher Gray

[citation needed]

June 5, 2016 - 07:27

Josiah Jenkins

jacobinmag.com/2016/06/bernie-sanders-achen-bartels-white-men-krugman-election-clinton/

This.

June 5, 2016 - 07:28

Brandon Lee

Any hope for today primaries?

June 5, 2016 - 07:38

Thomas Campbell

youtube.com/watch?v=hVhmENlR_3s

kill all cops

June 5, 2016 - 07:40

Owen Davis

Trump flip-flops position on Libya

Donald Trump reversed himself again on Libya on Sunday, saying in an interview that he would have authorized a “surgical” strike to take out Muammar Qadhafi, after months of telling voters the country would have been better off if the dictator were still alive.

“I didn't mind surgical. And I said surgical. You do a surgical shot and you take him out,” Trump said in an interview on CBS’ “Face the Nation.”

politico.com/story/2016/06/libya-donald-trump-qadhafi-223911

June 5, 2016 - 07:41

Carter Torres

"Donald Trump is a pathological liar!" - Bernie Sanders

June 5, 2016 - 07:43

Joshua Rogers

...

June 5, 2016 - 07:44

Samuel James

Northcom is on high alert today. Also conducting a joint military operation along the California, Oregon and Washington coast. Coincidence?

June 5, 2016 - 07:47

Austin Sanchez

Also, the exercise lasts until Tuesday, the day after the election.

June 5, 2016 - 07:49

Gabriel Bailey

Why would it be anything else? :^)

June 5, 2016 - 07:50

John Wright

youtube.com/watch?v=BJhVQqQabRQ

June 5, 2016 - 07:51

Liam Brown

Bomb only killed 12 unrelated bystanders, great job team!

June 5, 2016 - 07:54

Logan Flores

He really has changed politics in America. We'll see if that change bears any fruit. I remain skeptical.

June 5, 2016 - 07:56

Hunter Flores

lol what a piece of shit

June 5, 2016 - 07:58

Brandon Morgan

How long until he flip-flops on TPP?

June 5, 2016 - 08:13

Kayden Wright

I say give it a couple months.
He's going to have to tow the line to get republican support.
I guarantee it wont be long

June 5, 2016 - 08:18

Brandon Richardson

watch his supporters not even make excuses and just continue sucking his cock

June 5, 2016 - 08:47

Grayson Lee

Holla Forums in denial
>>>Holla Forums6229466

June 5, 2016 - 09:16

Brody Williams

What more did you expect?

June 5, 2016 - 09:52

Lincoln Cox

Hitler being a capitalist isn't consider a positive on Holla Forums anymore? What the hell is going on over there?

June 5, 2016 - 10:15

Logan Davis

we are winning that's what (they realize that capitalism is >bad and that socialism is >good, now they strive to prove they belong to the latter)

June 5, 2016 - 10:35

Hunter Garcia

It was in a thread about Varg releasing a video saying capitalism is shit, resulting in massive shitflinging.

June 5, 2016 - 10:46

Isaiah Nelson

N-Natiоnal sоcialism is not capitalism, sassenach!

June 5, 2016 - 10:53

Jacob Jones

Anyone from Puerto Rico?
What's happening there?

June 5, 2016 - 11:45

Robert Robinson

commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Democratic_Party_presidential_primary_results_by_county_by_popular_vote_margin_2.svg

Is this normal that Clinton had the strongest support in the Bible Belt?

June 5, 2016 - 11:55

Sebastian Price

Trump could support ISIS and they will probably still love him. The elite porky plan has worked.

June 5, 2016 - 12:17

Logan Hughes

Lares lives in Peurto Rico and I appreciate his updates, but I haven't seen him in a while. It's circumstantial info, but it keeps my hopes up. I'm not sure what the broader picture is, though.

I don't know, but she does really well with black voters. A lot of Boomers, her strongest demographic, retire in southern states like Florida and the Carolinas, as well.

I think maybe more effecting, however, might be the poverty in the Bible Belt states, and how early their states voted (DNC frontloading?). Poor people don't have as much access to television, newspapers, whether that be that they just don't have the money to afford it, or if they do, they don't have the time to watch or read. Even if they did watch TV or read newspapers, they wouldn't get an accurate, balanced report. This leaves the Internet. I can't find the map anymore, but it's really not that surprising. The counties/states Clinton does best with are also the states with the least Internet access. Even if they did have access, I don't think most 40+ people really know how to use and navigate the Internet, nor do many of them trust it, especially seniors. Her name recognition allows her to take an overwhelming advantage of people's poverty-induced ignorance.

Also, I've seen people say that their pastors would tell their congregation they're all gonna vote for Hillary and load up in a bus together or something that voting day and go do it. I've only heard this from black church-goers, but it wouldn't at all surprise me if white churches were similar. Someone also opined that the black community has better organization than other races because of the Civil Rights Movement, and so many people still look up to a leader to guide them to equality. Unfortunately, their leaders just don't know or stand to benefit more from a Clinton presidency than a Sanders presidency.

Just some thoughts as to why she did so well.

Oh, and Bernie's Jewish and people are obviously more Christian in the South. I've also read that black people are more likely to be anti-Semitic than white people, too. Pretty minor, but you can chuck it in there with contributing factors if you want.

June 5, 2016 - 12:38

William Russell

I think we should stress this point more and infiltrate Holla Forums
is natscum really socialist or capitalist, etc.

June 5, 2016 - 12:47

Liam Hernandez

I think you grossly underestimate Holla Forums's cognitive dissonance.

June 5, 2016 - 12:51

Joseph Perez

Hi. I've been here. I just took off my name.
Demographics favor Bernie but that's bullshit because Puerto Rico is incredibly post-racial, and the political climate favors Bernie. Clintostalgia doesn't. He paid for ads there, though, when Clinton didn't. The shenanigans could go either way. I don't like the fact that they had such a big prison voting initiative when the largest Puerto Rican gang gave Hillary a shotgun endorsement for their members, so that'll obviously hurt us. Puerto Rico has a lot of low information voters so that might hurt us.

I used to be confident Bernie would pull through some sort of win, but now I have literally no idea what's going to happen. Everyone in line today that I talked to was for Bernie, but that's never a sound measure. A lot of old people, which is never good (unless it is?). Basically, what we're going to be seeing is "Clinton stronk leader wymmyn who can fix island with experience" versus "Bernie has the vision and integrity America and Puerto Rico needs"- we'll just have to see which prevails. The lack of widespread early voting is a good thing for Bernie though.

The lines were ungood but not Arizona levels of doubleplusungood. People on SandersForPresident were chimping out about how they must have closed so many places because of shenanigans but if they haven't realized WE ARE BROKE so I'm actually willing to believe our politicians for once.

Long story short I have no fucking idea, but a win by any margin would be good for us and help further destroy the demographics narrative. The political climate is very pro-Bernie but that doesn't mean people will actually show up to vote.

For what it's worth, I'd say the ratio of people I phonebanked who were Bernie/Hillary supporters was about 6 to 1 not counting hangups, but hangups were way less common because people in Puerto Rico aren't used to getting political phone calls. Probably about 6 to 1 to 3 counting hangups. And then there were people who told me they weren't voting, who are obviously moot. That, at least, looks good- the response I got in the Midwest and Mid-Atlantic states I phonebanked seemed much more lukewarm, and even California had a lot of hangups. The first women I ever called in Puerto Rico literally told me to go fuck myself though lmao.

June 5, 2016 - 13:06

Parker Adams

Oh, and never lose faith. We still have the turbodelegates.

June 5, 2016 - 13:07

Tyler Torres

This is just anecdotal, but…
youtube.com/watch?v=4Wroj0FLvzs

June 5, 2016 - 13:23

Camden Wood

Results when?

June 5, 2016 - 13:29

Noah Lewis

Supposedly the first results are supposed to be at 5, which is in 30 minutes.

June 5, 2016 - 13:31

Oliver Brooks

nervous.jpg

June 5, 2016 - 13:33

Andrew Rogers

Speaking of, is his campaign still broke?

June 5, 2016 - 13:39

Elijah Powell

RIP

June 5, 2016 - 13:46

Joseph Walker

Time to tear down that shrine of him I've got.

June 5, 2016 - 13:52

Brody James

Link to video?

June 5, 2016 - 13:58

Owen Brooks

Look up a map of internet access by state. Then compare it to that map.

Of course, you get called a "brocialist" or a straight up racist if you point this out to liberals.

June 5, 2016 - 14:05

Leo Gonzalez

Unofficial results. It'll go up, too.
Crisis averted, but I still wished we had won.

June 5, 2016 - 14:06

Matthew Foster

Oh wait never mind lol, that's literally only 243 ballots. I'm retarded. It's still up in the air.

June 5, 2016 - 14:07

Aiden Gutierrez

who the fuck is roque de la fuente

June 5, 2016 - 14:08

Samuel Gonzalez

Literally just some businessman who puts himself on the ballot in all the states he can. Nobody important.

June 5, 2016 - 14:12

Ayden Gonzalez

democratas2016.ceepur.org/

Right now it's 473-201. Obviously still very preliminary but now I'm upset because his margins went down.

June 5, 2016 - 14:29

Lucas Lewis

ayl-rab

June 5, 2016 - 14:44

Samuel Long

what results?

June 5, 2016 - 14:44

Juan Collins

Puerto Rico's dem primary.

June 5, 2016 - 14:45

Jose Howard

source for results?

June 5, 2016 - 14:48

Aiden Wright

...

June 5, 2016 - 14:50

Jaxon Lewis

A meme

June 5, 2016 - 14:52

Elijah Fisher

reminder they shut down fucking HUNDREDS of polling stations in Puerto Rico.

June 5, 2016 - 15:50

Nathaniel Morris

So it looks like it'll be 30-70 pretty firmly. Now I feel like an idiot for telling everyone it would be the same with Bernie winning.

It's the same story as in the deep south and other places, people who straight up have no idea what the fuck they're doing. These morons are voting for PROMESA and I bet half of them know what that is and dislike it but don't know Clinton's stance on it

June 5, 2016 - 16:24

Adrian Bennett

see

June 5, 2016 - 16:39

Austin Rodriguez

independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/high-school-american-football-players-raped-disabled-black-teammate-with-coat-hanger-idaho-john-a7049566.html

Holla Forums, ladies and gentlemen

June 5, 2016 - 16:40

Aaron Diaz

That had little-nothing to do with it. Lines were like 90 minutes in extreme cases and there's no evidence that it hurt Bernie more than Hillary.

June 5, 2016 - 16:47

Asher Phillips

Maybe Puerto Rico should become an independent country after all.

June 5, 2016 - 16:47

Brody Ortiz

Are you saying this because you're pissed at the results and you don't want them to count for delegates?

Regardless, you're right.

June 5, 2016 - 16:48

Logan Gutierrez

>newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/06/05/poll-new-jersey-primary/

June 5, 2016 - 16:53

David Wilson

Where tf the results at

June 5, 2016 - 17:38

Henry Reed

ouch

June 5, 2016 - 17:40

Charles Murphy

god I hate new jersey

June 5, 2016 - 17:41

Christian Bennett

Literally pic related.
It should be stupidly easy to make communist Moonman songs

June 5, 2016 - 17:59

Christopher Brooks

Up to 35% lads

June 5, 2016 - 18:21

Brody Turner

When is Hillary going to trial for her crimes?

That is the only way Bernie is getting the nomination at this point.

June 5, 2016 - 18:25

Chase Torres

They take everything completely seriously and expand their hug box until nobody can have fun without their preapproval.

Holla Forums are the ultimate newfags.

June 5, 2016 - 18:41

Julian Rogers

...

June 5, 2016 - 18:58

Jordan Stewart

Apparently /r/socialism is trying to take on /r/the_donald

I took this opportunity to inform them about /r/enoughsandersspam/

June 5, 2016 - 19:11

Nathan Brooks

how popular is Trump on reddit? I'm not masochistic enough to look.

June 5, 2016 - 19:23

Oliver Sanchez

youtube.com/watch?v=O3eKvFCa5ao&feature=youtu.be&t=4m52s

June 5, 2016 - 19:25

Jaxon Anderson

I really don't use Reddit that much so I couldn't tell you. but I do believe /r/the_donald/ is pretty popular

Of course it's also widely despised so I guess about the same as in real life I suppose.

June 5, 2016 - 19:25

Carson Smith

he wasn't that popular until Holla Forums decided to prop up /r/thedonald

June 5, 2016 - 19:25

Austin Sanchez

wow, this is how they fucking act during elections too. if this was happening in russia or venezuela, american politicians would be condemning it as a sign of some kind of dictatorship.

June 5, 2016 - 19:27

Ryan Jackson

That last part reminded me of this.

June 5, 2016 - 19:32

Thomas Flores

sauce on song?

June 5, 2016 - 19:34

Gavin Cook

youtube.com/watch?v=_WTBkj8gFfI

June 5, 2016 - 19:36

Evan Hernandez

We Want Your Soul by Freeland

June 5, 2016 - 19:36

Aiden James

REMINDER COPS LOVE TRUMP
thinkprogress.org/politics/2015/12/11/3731055/donald-trump-police-union-endorsement/
latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-trump-protest-20160603-snap-htmlstory.html

June 5, 2016 - 19:41

Eli Hill

but police are workers too u guiz we have to be nice to them uwu

June 5, 2016 - 19:44

Chase Baker

no m8 you have to be nice just watch this young turks video about how beating up fascists is "gross" :DDD

youtube.com/watch?v=tLtTznFB-lo

to be fair Jimmy Dore is YET AGAIN the only TYT analyst who is worth a shit on this

June 5, 2016 - 19:47

Ethan Jenkins

someone should make a TYT porky

June 5, 2016 - 19:56

Jaxson Walker

Cenk porky could work.

June 5, 2016 - 20:09

Michael Richardson

How can one place vote so much against its interests? smh pr

June 5, 2016 - 21:28

Parker Peterson

I'll be called a booticker but have no problems with police. No society is utopian and people are going need some sort of help or protection. It might not be "Police" as we know it but a group will be there to help the people.

beating up fascists (a.k.a not actual fascists just proles that are dumb enough to support Drumpf) like that only create martyrs.

Anarkiddies ruin everything.

June 5, 2016 - 21:32

Samuel Howard

you are a bootlicker.
people's militia or bust.

fascism is inherently irrational. You can't outdebate a screaming retard who only cares about spooks (just look at Holla Forums) and beating on fascists has helped keep them at bay for years in places like Greece.The only people who consider dead fascists martyrs are liberal pansies.

June 5, 2016 - 21:36

Sebastian Scott

I lived in the Deep South where it's bizarro-antifa all around the clock. It's not good.

June 5, 2016 - 22:07

Dylan Nelson

That's why you don't get it

If irrational ideas that proliferate through a false rationalism are defeated at the outset through aggression both in debate and physical violence things like the Deep South wouldn't exist

June 5, 2016 - 22:26

Jayden Rivera

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graveyard of social movements

June 5, 2016 - 22:39

Aiden Price

What's this suppose to prove other than the fact that Hillary supporters are braindead slaves to capital

June 5, 2016 - 22:47

Andrew Ward

Agreed. The police should fear the people in aggregate, not the other way around, but they must exist, and they must be somewhat separate from the citizenry. The first sign of a slide into totalitarianism is not, in fact, excessive aggression by the pollce or military, but the use of paramilitaries or other (inevitably partisan) militias as a supplement to or substitute for police. The proper response to fascists and their ilk is to sic the police on them, and to remold the police if they grow too chummy to any group.

A strong police force, enforcing the rule of law under a nonpartisan public government, is the basis of a free and peaceful society. Any weakening of the police monopoly on violence creates a vacuum which undermines the public government's strength, in turn allowing some combination of completely undesirable alternatives (private/business [fascism], religious [theocracy], foreign [empire], nothing [warlordism/feudalism]) to fill the gap.

June 5, 2016 - 23:44

Carter Phillips

Fuck you guys. What we need is Wildwestism. Everyone gets guns and firearms training. Thieves will be deterred by the overwhelming majority capable of dispensing vigilante justice at the drop of a hat. And with free health care for all and the rapid advances in medicine, anything less than a fatal wound will be much less serious. Your guns will always be much closer than the police.

June 6, 2016 - 00:04

Tyler Wilson

those are some irregularly long sticks

June 6, 2016 - 00:08

Wyatt Howard

BREAKING NEWS
IN CASE OF JILL STEIN PRESIDENCY
CORINNE WOULDN'T RECYCLE
INTERNATIONAL CRISIS SEEMS INEVITABLE
STEIN RESIGNATION SPEECH IN 10 MINUTES

June 6, 2016 - 00:12

Nolan Allen

Question for you guys
I see a lot of people saying they would prefer Trump than Clinton because muh accelerationism.
But I was thinking about the impact of Bernie Sanders and all this talk of the "overton window", or at the very least the possibility that he's had a very positive impact on younger people.
What if Trump does lose? Will he have awoken this warped pseudo consciousness in idiots like posters on Holla Forums and their ilk? Will we see more populist retards popping up in the future because of his impact? Or will he be like the proverbial fart in the wind he is?

June 6, 2016 - 00:35

Lucas Cox

Bill Clinton encouraged Donald Trump to run for President during a phone call before he decided to run for president.
nbcwashington.com/news/politics/Clinton-Encouraged-Trump-to-Run-for-President_Washington-DC-320827311.html

June 6, 2016 - 01:11

William Lee

I don't know.
If the DNC knows what's good for them they'd pick Bernie, because he fares better against Trump.
If Trump won, it would be sweet seeing the DNC lose after fucking Bernie supporters so hard.
If Shillary won, it would be sweet seeing Holla Forums freak out like the impotent retards they are.
But hey, I vote 3rd party every year.

June 6, 2016 - 01:11

Nathaniel Kelly

youtube.com/watch?v=ZuWyL1YKoHw

June 6, 2016 - 01:14

Christopher Long

Fuck cops

June 6, 2016 - 01:18

Carson Gray

CHILLYRINGS FIX YOUR BROKEN SITE

June 6, 2016 - 01:21

Dylan Sullivan

You're both cock sucking bootlickers.

June 6, 2016 - 01:22

Leo Williams

True for rapid response, but the police should still be able to run over any private group like a freight train, even if the greater populace is in turn vastly more powerful than the police.

One thing we actually could abolish is permanent standing militaries, especially in the atomic age. Actual wars are rare for any but the poorest nations, and peacekeeping is a task militarily trained personnel are poorly suited for compared to police.

CHILLYRINGS FIX YOUR BROKEN SITE
CHILLYRINGS FIX YOUR BROKEN SITE
CHILLYRINGS FIX YOUR BROKEN SITE
CHILLYRINGS FIX YOUR BROKEN SITE
CHILLYRINGS FIX YOUR BROKEN SITE
CHILLYRINGS FIX YOUR BROKEN SITE
CHILLYRINGS FIX YOUR BROKEN SITE
CHILLYRINGS FIX YOUR BROKEN SITE
CHILLYRINGS FIX YOUR BROKEN SITE

June 6, 2016 - 01:30

Gabriel Perez

CHILLYRINGS FIX YOUR BROKEN SITE
CHILLYRINGS FIX YOUR BROKEN SITE
CHILLYRINGS FIX YOUR BROKEN SITE
CHILLYRINGS FIX YOUR BROKEN SITE

June 6, 2016 - 01:35

Daniel Perry

youtube.com/watch?v=W07BJGl86Ukwas there voter suppression in Puerto rico?

June 6, 2016 - 01:44

Liam Cruz

at this point it's safe to just assume yes until proven otherwise tbh

June 6, 2016 - 01:47

Isaac Gonzalez

...

June 6, 2016 - 01:47

Logan Wright

ok but
This point addresses the first. In a class-conscious society, it would be easy to arrange a militia for the same purpose, so why bother having standing police forces? Hell, why not just have police/militia work function like anything else and be public? There's a job to do? Someone will want to do it probably. Let them play cop for the duration of the job.

June 6, 2016 - 01:49

Noah Cook

I am with this guy

Trump is legit to the left of Hillary, at least if you take them both at face value on their policies. My mind is blown over and over again how people don't realize Trump is just playing a fucking game. It's public record now that his campaign listened to shit tons of conservative talk radio to determine his platform. He's a (shitty) businessman who just wants to play to the largest crowd that's easy to sway and feels underserved. He's a moron and will maybe get a few things done, but he'll also get walked over a lot.

Also, most people see Shillary as just your typical politician even though she's a bloodthirsty neocon. Nobody is going to come out in large numbers as Hillary's opposition party, and whoever does will just give the idpolers fuel for muh sexism bullshit. If Trump is president, the current protests will continue and out the nuts in the left for the nuts they are, but we might also get some legit leftists into office in midterm and local elections in response to his victory.

June 6, 2016 - 01:54

Juan Mitchell

Being a cop isn't just a role in society, but a job requiring certain skills.

You're thinking of cops similarly to how many conflate capitalists and managers. Skilled capitalists are usually skilled CEOs, but CEOs perform a valuable and unique service, which requires unique skills, but doesn't necessarily intersect with getting and paying massive amounts of personal wealth to earn personal profit.

Similarly, being a policeman isn't necessarily the same skillset as smashing people over the head with a club, though the two frequently overlap.

June 6, 2016 - 01:56

Joshua Harris

...

June 6, 2016 - 01:57

Angel Turner

Why are you here?

June 6, 2016 - 01:58

Luke Evans

Think of it like when the statesman role of nobility was separated from the divinely appointed autocrat role of nobility, creating our current class of democratically appointed bureaucrats.

The same thing is true of coops, where the capitalist exploiter role is stripped away to leave only the democratically elected manager.

June 6, 2016 - 02:01

Henry Moore

...

June 6, 2016 - 02:06

James Hernandez

wut

June 6, 2016 - 02:16

Hunter Bailey

...

June 6, 2016 - 02:22

Samuel Butler

wut

June 6, 2016 - 02:23

Jordan Ross

...

June 6, 2016 - 02:26

Levi Baker

WUT

June 6, 2016 - 02:27

Jackson Diaz

With all the free time you get in communism, you can aquire skills easily. Also in my wildwestism scenario, everyone gets guns and training on how to use them. That also includes shit like tactics. If you want, you can train and get certified as a detective. Then when crime happens you can go detect shit. It's not hard.

June 6, 2016 - 03:26

Nathan Jenkins

yes Trump wouldn't have stood a chance against Hill-Dog if he had entered the race as a democrat. So it's most probable that he is courting/playing the illiterate masses on the right. The only thing he truly believes in seems to be the "we're losing to china, we're losing to mexico" stuff (the countries, not the people). And if he turns out to be terrible you can elect Sanders 2.0 in 2020 if you want. With Hillary you get probably 8 years of her and then another 4-8 years of some republican shill.

June 6, 2016 - 06:45

Chase Parker

because spooks are more important.
I kid you not, that's all it is.

June 6, 2016 - 06:53

Cameron Ortiz

normie get out reeee

June 6, 2016 - 07:01

Sebastian Fisher

hmm

June 6, 2016 - 07:03

Hudson Wilson

Hillary is a third way globalist puppet of the oligarchy who wants to enshrine pro israel into law and make more money for wall street.

At least with trump he is going to fuck things up, be a meme, and you can use the excuse that the democrats weren't leftist enough if hillary loses and purge the DNC of shillbots.

basically the reasoning for voting for trump on the left is accelerationism

June 6, 2016 - 07:13

Nolan Myers

Imagine going back in time and writing the word "the first black president barack obama meets with president elect Donald trump"

June 6, 2016 - 07:23

Adrian Murphy

SJWs are powerless, though, and they will always be. No matter how stupid they can be, they're still only a minority group of voters.

Plus, if the USA can survive 8 years of George W. Bush Jr, it can also survive some SJW president, if it ever somehow comes to that.

June 6, 2016 - 08:04

Mason Bailey

...

June 6, 2016 - 08:15

Julian Cox

Show me how much power they have outside of cucked American college campuses, then.

June 6, 2016 - 08:17

Luke Brooks

motherjones.com/politics/2013/03/pycon-2013-sexism-dongle-richards

theguardian.com/science/2014/nov/14/rosetta-comet-dr-matt-taylor-apology-sexist-shirt

wired.com/2013/09/penny-arcade-expo-dickwolves/
joystickdivision.com/2011/02/pax_speakers_withdraw_over_con.php

Just a couple that come to mind.

June 6, 2016 - 08:40

Asher Gomez

idk mate, most of these seem incidental (although holy shit especially that first example is ridiculous, how the fuck is a sexually suggestive joke even sexist by default?)

I'm talking more like, on a political level. Of course there will be companies and organizations that will be cucked by SJWs, but is there any real reason to worry that they will start dominating the political landscape and forcefully restricting essential liberties of the people? Because that's what I would worry about, if anything, and I don't see that happening. As much as they can pressure people into giving in to their demands in certain individual cases, on broader scales they just don't seem like major political players to me.

June 6, 2016 - 08:57

James Clark

The media never shows this but there's been a lot of protesting at Clinton rallies as well

youtu.be/pgmUx2yT83Y

Some others

youtube.com/watch?v=rxg9gPTd7Aw

youtube.com/watch?v=e__PoSdrPqI

June 6, 2016 - 09:09

Gavin Ross

They only have power because people think they have power. It's like a self-fulfilling prophecy, people give in to SJWs because they think they have power; thereby giving them power.

They can't do shit to people who refuse to give in.

June 6, 2016 - 09:10

Xavier Taylor

Holy shit.

June 6, 2016 - 09:11

Connor Johnson

reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-anti-vote-idUSKCN0XX06E

June 6, 2016 - 09:18

Landon James

AND THEY CALL IT A CONSPIRACY THEORY

A CONSPIRACY THEORY

June 6, 2016 - 09:38

Matthew Wood

yeah because social movements have just THRIVED in the pathetic american green party

June 6, 2016 - 11:13

Nicholas Williams

pls lurk moar
and read a book ffs

June 6, 2016 - 11:17

Cameron Long

And people think they have power because they're the most active on social media.

June 6, 2016 - 11:24

Adam Smith

aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2016/06/primaries-californians-voting-160605101530293.html
some interesting testimonies from Cali voters

June 6, 2016 - 11:58

Logan Moore

#BernieOrBullets

June 6, 2016 - 12:19

Connor Jenkins

God, I hope I don't have to decide between the two. I'll probably try to get the Green Party closer to 5% if that does happen.
I'm terrified of both. Trump is an absolute madman which is bad for foreign policy. Hillary is a full retard which is bad for foreign policy. Hillary and Trump both support creating a command economy in Puerto Rico. A Trump presidency would inevitably repeal Obamacare and becoming a proving ground for Tea Party proposals like flat tax and sales tax. A Hillary presidency would do fuck and shit about the deficit and enable TPP. Trump's got the Tea Party and Hillary's got SJWs. Ultimately I'd have to vote against the con artist so it would be either Hillary or Stein and PROMESA alone is reason enough not to vote for Hillary

Well for one they've managed to introduce terms like "priviIege" and "angry white males" into the common vernacular.

No, you don't get it. Kill yourself.

June 6, 2016 - 13:20

Bentley Green

...

June 6, 2016 - 13:23

Nolan Evans

I don't know man. Imagine having to live here.

To be fair everyone here is fucking retarded. Not even the "I don't want to be competent at all I want to collect welfare drink beer and piss in the streets" kind of retarded (though there ARE those people, they're just not as common as in, say, a ghetto) but the "I want to be competent in this regard that I'm not competent in but I don't know how to go about it and it's not relevant enough to matter to me because I'm competent at these other things" retarded. Nobody understands philosophy or history or Marxism, people barely understand local politics, and that's at least partially because the media treats it like the media treats state politics in the mainland. PROMESA is treated like a shitty state bill and not the existential horror that it is. Now if we were independent it'd be a different story. We'd focus on our own politics, our own corruption, and the news would be 24/7 "BTW Hillary supports instituting a literal command economy in Puerto Rico" and she's get 20% of the vote. Right now she got votes like I said above because she got the feminist vote, the nostalgic vote, the reactionary vote, the spooky "experience" vote and the "I know who that is and I don't know who the other person is" vote.

If you needed veritable proof that Clinton is running her campaign off of these things it's the results of the Puerto Rican primary. People like to say that crying "uneducated voters" is racist but it really isn't, like in this case the average Puerto Rican is like 64% white. The independents who are wholeheartedly convinced that Congress is trying to fuck us over didn't vote in the primary because they don't think it matters.

In fact, it's now that I realize why he never stood a chance. Sanders appeals to jaded voters. We already knew that. But Puerto Ricans- the jaded ones- are doubleplusjaded. As in, believing politics is corrupt almost necessarily. Not just American politics or local politics but politics. Not even in an anarchist way, like in a downer nihilist way. Sanders didn't get the jaded vote because the jaded vote stayed home and watched Fatmagul, because "I don't want to enable the corrupt political system by participating in it". Anti-voting attitudes on Holla Forums and Holla Forums sound so fucking similar to the excuse Puerto Ricans make that if I didn't know better due to Holla Forums and Holla Forums at least having another system in mind I'd say the idea was spread by those of my ilk. The people that know government is corrupt and needs to be given back to the people gave up on it and classified politics as categorically evil, unchangeable and a necessary evil.

I fucking love this country. But I also fucking hate it.

And also it irritates me when people set up a strawman Bernie supporter who claims voter suppression whenever Bernie loses. Nobody cried voter suppression in the Deep South because they were open primaries and a Clinton sweep there was to be expected. The meme really started in Arizona as I'm sure you recall, which was an actual example of such because of the ridiculous lines and the fact it was a closed primary. Same for New York, Pennsylvania- there were little things here and there in that whole region. I didn't hear anyone claim voter suppression or fraud in for example Illinois (shit was that an open primary I may be going against my own argument here) or Guam. Maybe some Bernie supporters will disagree with me but the worst thing about these open primaries is that when we lose them we lose them fair and square because people are fucking retarded. That's also the best thing about them, open primaries are pretty fair and really hard to rig. Hell, even the haircut to voting locations in Puerto Rico probably didn't have a significant effect because we don't have early voting other than prison ballots. We lost Guam fair and square, we lost Puerto Rico fair and square, we lost Ohio fair and square and we lost the Deep South fair and square. Outside of those the conclusion falls pretty easily along category lines- open caucuses would've gone more to Hillary, closed caucuses could've gone either way, and closed primaries would've gone more to us. Out of the few open primaries Hillary might win more delegates with dat Deep South, but I'm pretty sure I could say that for if everywhere had an open primary. The delegate margin is small enough to assume that there is at least a very small net gain, just large enough to put us ahead. This is kind of a ramble at both Sanders supporters who actually do this and people who set up the strawman of it. Yes, a lot of primaries were rigged or had built-in status quo safeguards. Yes, the race as a whole is both. No, not every primary we lost was rigged or had built-in status quo safeguards, unless you count clueless voters.

June 6, 2016 - 13:24

Ryder Anderson

#BernieAndBunkers

June 6, 2016 - 13:39

Noah Stewart

problem is that this is an excellent rule of thumb in bourgeois democracy, and it's accurate 99% of the time. people who ignore politics on this basis are saving themselves YEARS of wasted time reading and arguing about politics. however, in the 1% of the time that they're wrong, it fucks them over.

June 6, 2016 - 13:46

Aaron Williams

I've apparently earned the ire of a French, socialist Hillary Hack from /r/ess

You can't make this shit up

June 6, 2016 - 14:01

Cameron Hall

A democracy doesn't necessarily have to be a bourgeois democracy as long as it's just rigged and not controlled, like for example Soviet "democracy". If you don't like someone, vote them out. If you don't like anyone, primary someone. If you don't like any primary contenders, run. If you think you don't have the voting power to do this, try to organize and get people excited. Or the alternative is revolution If you don't want to do any of that, then the only complaint you get to make is that it should be easier to wokeify people.

Also, the people I talked to don't seem to think that you CAN fix government. Not just that our current government is messed up and won't change unless something changes.

Neat, show us.

June 6, 2016 - 14:07

Daniel Scott

I dunno if you want the direct links

June 6, 2016 - 14:12

Jack Thompson

...

June 6, 2016 - 14:16

Carter Mitchell

That sub is fucking deranged.

June 6, 2016 - 14:17

Christian Gonzalez

I honestly can't understand shillary supporters

June 6, 2016 - 14:20

Jack Phillips

Didn't Sanders release his tax returns months ago?

June 6, 2016 - 14:22

Kayden Green

he has always said "democratic socialism".

and she accuses others of conspiracy theories?

he has already released his tax returns for 2015 and plans to release more. this is a non-story and there is no basis in her accusation that he is embezzling funds.

has said he doesn't need nor want their support on many occasions, but this is another non-story drummed up by the media and david brock et al.

meaning you have to be a capable tea-leaf reader to find this "evidence" for it.

what? RT is kremlin trash, but it isn't alt-right.

June 6, 2016 - 14:24

Brody Hill

Reporter asks Bernie Sanders if he's "being sexist" for staying in the race

theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/06/bernie-sanders-drop-out-california-primary-hillary-clinton-2008

youtube.com/watch?v=QnggiZBC0Nk

June 6, 2016 - 14:31

Ethan Edwards

Hillary Clinton was erratic First Lady, 'violent' to husband, staff - Secret Service author
rt.com/usa/345599-clinton-book-tirades-violent/

>“Hillary Clinton is now poised to become the Democratic nominee for president of the United States, but she simply lacks the integrity and temperament to serve in the office,” Byrne wrote, adding that she once attempted to have Secret Service banned from the White House.

>Bill and Hillary Clinton had at least one "violent encounter," Byrne wrote, ahead of a major, national presidential address. In fact, Secret Service staff would discuss how to keep Hillary Clinton from physically harming her husband. One morning in 1995, Byrne said he arrived at the White House to find a smashed blue vase and a "put-a-steak-on-it black eye" on the president.
KEK

June 6, 2016 - 14:35

Jaxson Anderson

Sanders would be winning if Hillary was a man, wouldn't he? Fuck idpol.

June 6, 2016 - 14:36

John Turner

A-anonchan I don't think the person who is having anger issues directed at a geriatric friendly Jew destroy their lives was shitposting.
is that even possible at this point
If he wasn't embezzling money in 2014 he probably isn't now.
Inb4 "muh schedules A and C", yeah if he didn't put any money into wall street or banks or anything he probably isn't getting any money from them and a large part of why he has such large deductions is because he's putting a lot of meals under "business meals" which I'm guessing he does mostly from a bookkeeping perspective, say what you want about him but he's clearly not a penny pincher.
boohoo but also when and where, apparently by running against a wymman you are enabling hatred of women and here I have to go again with pointing out that hatred of women is never directed at only one person
uhhhhhhhh literally where like I'm struggling to understand why these people don't understand that Clinton is white and Bernie isn't, neither Poles nor Jews are white and where they each get supporters and people saying things like "voting against interests" is ultimately inconsequential and has nothing to do with the candidates themselves
Yeah duder the alt-right just can't get enough of Sanders manfriend
he has no idea
well barring the fact that it was MYSTERIOUSLY created two years ago before Bernie even formed an exploratory committee and the creator of the board MYSTERIOUSLY blocked me when I asked him about it it was actually created to bitch about the kind of stuff that gets upboated on /r/politics (which is fair, I can see why people would be annoyed) and pretend like the comment section isn't a circlejerk against Bernie 9 times out of 10. Besides that it would seem like one of their main concerns is the idiots on /r/sandersforpresident that call everyone who doesn't vote for their candidate low-information voters (which is technically true but you don't fucking say it in decent company where THEY think YOU'RE underinformed and also get to play the race card just like you don't say "well Black people commit a lot of crime like I'm just saying it's true" you complete imbeciles) but it is by no means their only concern, if anything I see more people calling him a socialist or literally a communist.
this part is true, and if the sub hadn't devolved to what it is now I probably wouldn't have a problem with it.
And this justified vicious behavior like "God I hope once Bernie loses he gets primaried in 2018 by Al Giordano ha ha I want to lobotomize BernieBros I am mentally stable" and infiltrating SandersForPresident [or at least pretending to just to stir the shit], and endorsing people going on alternate accounts with names like CTR_GaryS just to tick people off, fuck with people and troll. Honestly the whole sub is a bigger national embarrassment than /r/atheism and hilariously close to /r/nongolfers in their efforts to shit on other people's parades.
Once again /r/socialism and /r/enoughsandersspam and reddit as a whole embarrasses itself. I wish people would think before speaking, and this community is legit one of the only places I've seen to actually do that (though that's not everyone, especially the fucking Holla Forums posters who just won't quit)

This was also my face when. I am so fucking sick of this, if he wasn't doing anything fishy in 2014 he probably wasn't doing anything fishy in 2013.

One incomplete one, but it got the message out that he's almost certainly not doing anything particularly fishy.

BASED

Old news, but always worth a post. Thanks Freudfag.

June 6, 2016 - 14:38

Josiah Nguyen

Oh, good, I didn't think we were to the "Caligula" part of a fallen empire yet.

June 6, 2016 - 14:39

Joseph Gray

Oh and one last thing, for all the memes this person hurled at you I'm surprised they didn't bring up that shitty NYDN interview.

June 6, 2016 - 14:45

Charles Turner

I think I now hate Hillary supporters more than Trump supporters.

June 6, 2016 - 14:49

Samuel Hughes

First I heard of this guy

Looks like a complete delusional Clinton Cunt

June 6, 2016 - 14:49

Jacob Adams

bigstory.ap.org/article/5afd65bd7662447f92fe7e12333c6396/vote-count-stalls-puerto-rico-officials-take-day
Vote count stalls in Puerto Rico as officials take day off
reminder that everyone in the media will use le superdelegates meme to convince people that Shillary already has the nomination so it doesn't matter if she loses California.

June 6, 2016 - 14:51

Justin Bell

Actually /r/socialism seems to be warming up to Sanders and certainly despises /r/ess, here's my original comment if you wanna see for yourself:
reddit.com/r/socialism/comments/4mpxxt/rthe_donald_what_is_it_and_how_to_fight_it/d3xen32

June 6, 2016 - 14:53

Isaiah Wilson

Oh yeah he is. Got one of the worst cases of "everyone I dislike is an angry white male" I've ever seen. The best thing is that he probably won't even for man exploratory committee, he's just grandstanding and being a cunt. I mean look at his Twitter description.

So that's what's up. Yeah, I saw it stand still.
Holy shit, if it's really 66% of the votes and not just 66% of the precincts that means turnout was less than 100,000. Great job Puerto Rico.

I meant the bad parts of it. The Meme Saltysuck types and his voters.

June 6, 2016 - 14:56

Lucas Rivera

Oh and also Al Giordano thinks he's not white because he's Portuguese, what a fucking joke.

June 6, 2016 - 14:58

William Moore

...

June 6, 2016 - 15:00

Liam Hill

Won't happen. Don't even think about it or worry about it. Won't happen.

June 6, 2016 - 15:02

Nolan Walker

twitter.com/Yamiche
Reporters twitter

June 6, 2016 - 15:03

Luke Thompson

Some idiot Al Giordano retweeted said that Sanders response to her shitty question was "yelling at her for doing her job". Where can you get these drug goggles?

June 6, 2016 - 15:05

Bentley Hill

thought the same. quality post.

June 6, 2016 - 15:07

Kayden Hughes

While Trump supporters are literally cucks, some of them have legitimate grievances with liberal idpol, except they just switched it with another form of idpol. Meanwhile, Shillirites are even more delusional, don;t even care about the economy, or rather workers. Plus there even bigger useful idiots than Trumpeters.

Trump supporters see at least one of two of the real problems, it's just their solutions are shit, like usual.

I think there were other related to the subject too.

June 6, 2016 - 15:08

Landon Richardson

Hillary supporters are my cocaine.

June 6, 2016 - 15:14

James Garcia

As big as the grievances they have with liberal idpol are, they're nothing compared to the issues they have with conservative idpol, whether or not they realize that. After all, it's not liberals setting escalating standards for "real men" that these insecure limpdicks can never fulfill, it's the cultural right; and Trump is promising to exchange their vote for some ridiculously spooky manliness-by-association.

June 6, 2016 - 15:30

Cooper Watson

In all fairness it's both, which is one of my problems with modern liberal "feminism"

June 6, 2016 - 15:38

Luis Sanchez

Could you elaborate? Feminism seems to take great pains to suggest men can "be how they want to be" or whatever, live outside gender norms, etc.

June 6, 2016 - 15:42

David Hughes

...

June 6, 2016 - 15:46

Adrian Thompson

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPE

June 6, 2016 - 15:56

Hunter Brown

Who touched your private property madam?

June 6, 2016 - 16:00

Connor Evans

PATRIARCHY

June 6, 2016 - 16:03

Brayden Nelson

complete with the depraved orgies you know the clintons get up to

June 6, 2016 - 16:04

Connor Jones

but guys…

free college isn't FREE…

youtube.com/watch?v=bdYOjUqlcFA

June 6, 2016 - 16:06

Jaxon Flores

...

June 6, 2016 - 16:06

Nathan Rodriguez

It's free as in freedom™.

June 6, 2016 - 16:08

Hunter Powell

BEADY

June 6, 2016 - 16:11

Blake Carter

Well I'm referring more to the corporate liberal variety since that's the kind that's most often pushed. Can't speak for those in academia who have little effect on the outside world.

To be honest they rarely seem to address male issues, and if they do it's because they're been pushed and prodded and there's no way they can ignore it and they'll probably just bring it back around to women anyway.

But often times they'll either use male gender standards to push their own agenda or just hold rather obvious double standards. I mean is there any mainstream liberal feminist commentator that didn't drool over Magic Mike? I mean their major issue with it was that it was apparently slut-shaming women in one scene.

But perhaps I'm a bit salty due to personal experiences

June 6, 2016 - 16:13

Brody Cook

Don't forget that they often use appeals to masculinity to belittle their detractors.

June 6, 2016 - 16:17

Luke Morris

Either obama called him to tell him to quit or Hillary is going to be indited on Wednesday

June 6, 2016 - 16:19

Eli Bennett

Was it a voluntary exchange?

June 6, 2016 - 16:20

Cooper Morgan

interesting

June 6, 2016 - 16:21

Gavin Torres

didn't he meet with Obama before?

June 6, 2016 - 16:21

Easton Ward

this shit got me lit, I have to admit

June 6, 2016 - 16:21

Jack Bennett

Hopy phugging shit.

It could be either and it's probably the former, but I hope it was the latter.
HNGGGGGGGG

June 6, 2016 - 16:22

Nolan Phillips

...

June 6, 2016 - 16:27

Hudson Murphy

Phug. God please, I need the pickmeup after PR.

June 6, 2016 - 16:34

Brayden Adams

...

June 6, 2016 - 16:34

Jason Edwards

ABSOLUTE

June 6, 2016 - 16:35

Jackson Sanchez

COMMUNIST

June 6, 2016 - 16:36

Aaron Diaz

SUPERMAN

June 6, 2016 - 16:37

Brody Bailey

Rolled 4 (1d6)
Rolling for Obama being a closet comrade (hit on 3+)

Maybe being called a socialist for so long convinced him to check out some theory :^)

June 6, 2016 - 16:53

Connor Russell

Meant 4+ but got it anyway

June 6, 2016 - 16:54

Robert Thompson

...

June 6, 2016 - 16:58

Joseph Turner

youtube.com/watch?v=Q_btsiomEOg

This isn't from where your thinking it's from.

June 6, 2016 - 16:59

Sebastian Brooks

Honestly I'm not even sure what to think of Barry Hessayn O'Bama. People like to say that as soon as he took office he became a wishy-washy centrist but maybe it's not that simple. He's definitely a neoliberal but I think in other regards he's just been playing it safe so another replay of 2010 doesn't happen under his presidency. Like for example people call him a warmongerer but the other way of looking at it is that he gave Clinton a sandbox for 4 years as agreed and spent the next 4 cleaning up after her. The question is why he never tried to stop her in those 4 years. Perhaps that was part of the agreement too. And then there's that bit about Guantanamo, and my best guess is blackmail maybe.

Maybe he's based, but then why would he support PROMESA and TPP?

Oh god where.

June 6, 2016 - 17:01

Brody Parker

What is he even trying to communicate with that last sentence.

June 6, 2016 - 17:03

Jaxon Gray

Even leaving aside their direct corrosive effect on areas such as schools, technology, science, the media, and HR departments, they have been utterly devastating to the internal function of organized leftism (both in government and ESPECIALLY in NGOs). Look at how the legitimate membership of early casualties like the feminist, black, environmentalist, human rights, and anti-globalization movements (not to mention today's "organized socialism", lol) have been marginalized into fearful obedience of SJW leadership surrounded by an invincible aura of IdPol outrageism, so that they can ignore important economic and legal reforms their movements were formed for to endlessly chase their tail on meaningless PR fluff social nonissues. This is spreading and deepening constantly into alarmingly important areas, like the SPL, EFF, and FAIR, silently transforming them from watchdogs of liberty into attack dogs of despotism on an organizational level.

Even worse is their effect on actual politicians and public servants, allowing people unconcerned with or massively regressive on material issues to tout their score of "ultra-leftist" on the imaginary political scale of immaterial social nonissues, destroying leftism definitionally as a political ideology.

Make no mistake, if given enough sway in PR puff positions (their historically preferred footing from which to seize the reigns of power, remember!) as shielding for Shillary and her cronies' behavior, they could quite plausibly usurp her, overturn the constitution (which they have repeatedly promised to do) and metamorphose into a form of tyranny we've never seen the likes of.

That's kind of a vacuous statement, since it's true of every dictatorship. No power in history, no matter how brutal, has ever withstood a mass uprising among anything close to a majority.

For whatever it's worth given his wafflyness, his foreign policy platform is one of noninterventionism and isolationism. So far as his porky economic promises, the parts that might realistically pass (repeal ACA? Maybe. Dismantle SS/Medicare? Nope.) honestly wouldn't be too much worse in the long run than Shillary's, except they would come from the mouth of an openly Republican administration that the PC weenies would allow the left to oppose in force.

There will be special place in gulag archipelago for these people

How much of it is provably IdPol? How much is actually (racist) desire to end offshoring, and (double racist!) desire to have the population feeding the labor pool stabilize? If we had someone openly saying these things (though Sanders, since they're not PC, has silently supported them), plus labor unionism, we'd sweep elections effortlessly.

The thing that always confused me about Obama is why he attacked people like Manning, Assange, and Snowden, then doubled down on the NSA's misbehevior. Up to that point he actually polled quite strongly, but he chose that hill to die on. Why?

June 6, 2016 - 17:10

Jeremiah Martin

Oh shit I completely forgot about Snowden et al. That's actually my MAIN beef with him.

Guy is definitely not based, he's just baseder than he gives off.

June 6, 2016 - 17:12

James Sanders

I mean it doesn't make any sense. All he would've had to do is pat the leakers on the back at press conferences, maybe give them medals or whatever, hold a senate hearing on those naughty, naughty NSA/CIA/etc… folks, pass some (hard-hitting or completely for show, it really wouldn't matter, since its actual impact would largely be classified) legislation and executive orders, then reap HUGE approval ratings and political capital to spend bullying his opposition.

Everyone knows 1st-world terrorism ranks lower than heatstroke during summer brownouts, floods hitting moron towns built in flood plains, or global coconut head trauma, so there is exactly zero reason to give anti-terrorism much more than lip service. It would've been a total no-brainer.

June 6, 2016 - 17:21

Ryder Phillips

Yeah, I remember being mystified at the time too. Just, why?

June 6, 2016 - 17:36

Andrew Martinez

Goddamn it I hate this shit. Sanders had to pander to this ridiculous black capitalist/black racialist/black nationalist crowd because Clinton and the rest of the Third Way have been pushing the idea that society is divided not based on class but on race and gender and what have you and black people believe it because honestly, that's what it appears to be I imagine, especially if you live in the South

But Christ he still constantly talks about how class is the most important yet he said one stupid fucking thing and now everyone's up in arms. Meanwhile Clinton can't touch anything but the most simplistic of issues without putting both feet in her mouth and no one cares. Do you think if Bernie asked his Twitter followers to describe how student loans make you feel "in three emojis or less" we still wouldn't be talking about it? Or what about her ridiculous invocation of the Charleston shooting, basically saying people need to wait until they're getting killed then beg their legislators to fix something OH AND GUESS WHAT IT DIDN'T EVEN FUCKING WORK.

Honestly, people like to compare Sanders and Trump but you know what? Trump is just the mirror image of Clinton. They offer no real changes to the neoliberal status quo, they just promise to make a different group of people the exploited class. In Trump's case it's immigrants, in Clinton's case it's poor white. But you know what? Whoever wins they're all going to get fucked over in the end.

June 6, 2016 - 17:44

Parker Reyes

inthesetimes.com/article/19169/End-of-American-Liberalisms-Age-of-Acquiescence-Paved-Way-for-Sander-and

June 6, 2016 - 17:44

Dominic Powell

HILLARY "CLINCHES" NOMINATION
reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4mw91t/they_just_did_it_they_just_called_the_nomination/
S4P BLOWING UP
reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/new/
TL;DR:
more superdelegate shit, not an actual victory yet

June 6, 2016 - 17:47

Julian Walker

Hilary's just got enough delegates apparently.

June 6, 2016 - 17:47

Daniel Rogers

see

it's meme delegates, not an actual victory

June 6, 2016 - 17:47

Carson Parker

what did i fucking tell you

June 6, 2016 - 17:48

Jaxson Smith

twitter.com/Reuters/status/739978770807939072
Not surprised that they are trying this.

June 6, 2016 - 17:48

Jayden Williams

GOOD NEW EVERYONE, HILLARY HAS ALREADY WON! HILLARY SUPPORTS CAN STAY HOME!

Bernie Sanders supporters can still go to primaries to show their symbolic support, I guess.

Think that's a bad idea?

Well, then maybe she hasn't already won.

June 6, 2016 - 17:50

Blake Johnson

postan meme magic

June 6, 2016 - 17:51

Ethan Parker

theintercept.com/2016/06/06/media-execs-trump/
so not only has Trump gotten 2 billion dollars in free advertising from the media, but media companies are making a fortune off of his antics

now thats what i call late-stage capitalism

June 6, 2016 - 17:53

Asher Rivera

How much salt will there be?

June 6, 2016 - 17:57

Blake Collins

Predictions:

June 6, 2016 - 17:59

Adam Campbell

furaffinity.net/journal/7613892/ The spooking is real. I am ashamed to enjoy this person's art. It's what they call 'Jay Naylor syndrome'. The spread of the alt right ideology is further then you think.

Emotionally charged dribble.

I think I can safely say I hate SJW reactionary identity polititians/RIPs far more then the alt right, and their literally cucks. They created the perfect breeding ground for discrediting the left with their spooks, while creating more spooks in the process. I suppose though, with this logic, I should hate the rich people that push this shit even more, and I do.

Trumpepe is just capitalisng on the hysteria to make a quick buck, as it were. Can't say I blame him. The US is so dumb it deserves to be played like a fiddle. All it takes is for Sanders to fuck up, and he's an olt fart, what do you expect? I hate idpol so much.

I needed a good vent.

June 6, 2016 - 18:02

Ethan Morris

...

June 6, 2016 - 18:10

Lucas Reyes

PRESUMPTIVE NOMINEE

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH CRI MOAR BERNIE BROS! HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE BEATEN BY THE BIGGEST PIECE OF SHIT CUNT IN THE WORLD?

June 6, 2016 - 18:10

Noah Stewart

Jesus Christ the denial is strong as fuck with you faggots. Suicide hotline is going to get ddos'd tomorrow night.

June 6, 2016 - 18:12

Tyler Hall

Hell, the game was rigged from the beginning.
The fact he got this far and got this many votes is really encouraging.

We'll have to win on the local level. We always would. Bernie can't get anything through this congress anyways. We have to work our way up from the local level.

And it's already begun.

I really hope Trump beats Hillary though.

June 6, 2016 - 18:12

Jeremiah Williams

TOPKEK AT THE BBC
bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36466228

June 6, 2016 - 18:14

Kayden Fisher

But Ms. Clinton! You're already the nominee, you should let your supporters take the day off.

June 6, 2016 - 18:16

Isaac Brown

Its simple really… You may be a significantly vocal bunch of faggots but in the grand scheme of things you are but a blip on the radar. The majority of your numbers are too young or otherwise unable to vote and you hemorage numbers once your people start hitting 25 years old.

Your only hope was always with the brown vote but they are all so stupid they are voting for the most evil cunt to ever grace american politics. Don't worry, after a couple years of trump the not insane among you will start to see the truth of this reality.

June 6, 2016 - 18:17

Leo King

...

June 6, 2016 - 18:19

Tyler Taylor

The amount of denial here is ridiculous. Good work to those who've spent their college funds and paychecks on Bern-out donations. The salt at tomorrow's election is going to be hilarious.

June 6, 2016 - 18:21

Robert Stewart

Have your giggles now. Sooner or later people won't be so spooked, especially when there's another economic crash. I look forward to how terribly whichever moronic porky fails to keep murrika from collapsing in on itself.

June 6, 2016 - 18:24

Levi Jones

Why do you trump racists have to be so cruel. Can't you have a little compassion? All we want to do is the right thing and it is being stolen from us. And all you do is gloat. I have friends that probably won't survive tomorrow and all I can do is sit here and cry because I understand why they wouldn't want to live anymore.

June 6, 2016 - 18:25

Jeremiah Cook

I've actually said this from the beginning.
The president is not some magical king or something.
Any movement has to start on the local level.

The same goes for Trump. It's very fucking unlikely he'll be able to get any of the stuff you guys want through congress.

You should probably realize this, or you'll be terribly disappointed with the next four years. It'll help you more than just yelling "cuck" at everyone.

June 6, 2016 - 18:27

Hudson Sullivan

wat

June 6, 2016 - 18:28

Jacob Johnson

...

June 6, 2016 - 18:28

Nathaniel Lewis

There isn't a single possible outcome in which we don't win and you don't lose.

June 6, 2016 - 18:29

Ryan Jackson

...

June 6, 2016 - 18:31

Benjamin Price

Do you really thing the God Emperor will be able to suspend the democracy?

Really?

June 6, 2016 - 18:33

Bentley Barnes

*think

June 6, 2016 - 18:33

Tyler Anderson

Democracy, or whatever the fuck was left of it, officially died today. On the anniversary of D-Day, no less.

June 6, 2016 - 18:34

Oliver Perry

Sad part is, that when those guys stormed those beaches, I really think they genuinely believed they were fighting to preserve democracy.

June 6, 2016 - 18:35

Adam Sullivan

The irony of the AP doing it on D-Day is too fucking rich, given that they made a deal with the Nazis back in the 30's to not run negative press.

June 6, 2016 - 18:36

Nolan Morales

No user, these are simply the birth pangs

June 6, 2016 - 18:40

Noah Hughes

You forgot your anfem flag.

It's probably better this way. What matters is the despooking, not Sanders.

At least your honest about your fetish, dear.

This second point refutes the first one. Ny assuming lefties are 'gunless' which they aren't ;^) and also spineless while at the same time not wanting to risk their lives for a revolution. Which is it?

So your tacitly admitting that Trumpenstien is ending democracy? Makes sense.

Debbs was right, and soon freedom itself will become but a spook.

AP? Also, some jpegs would be nice too.

June 6, 2016 - 18:40

Chase Morris

...

June 6, 2016 - 18:40

Easton Ramirez

Remember user, it is better to die on your feet than to die on your knees

June 6, 2016 - 18:41

Jaxson Cooper

archive.is/hf0z2

I hope this becomes the prevalent attitude among Bernie supporters. I really hope his loss lights a fire under their asses.

June 6, 2016 - 18:42

Austin Stewart

America birthed the liberal revolution user it must birth the socialist revolution as well

June 6, 2016 - 18:43

Jeremiah Bell

...

June 6, 2016 - 18:44

Josiah Taylor

...

June 6, 2016 - 18:45

Isaac Peterson

I'm sorry user, but I'm sure you'll survive unemployment

Or does it not count when the dick you're taking in the ass is orange instead of black? :^)

June 6, 2016 - 18:47

Easton Flores

Trump is losing the the general election to both Hillary and Bernie.
He's got a show against Hillary though.
However, the same applies to Bernie. That very same movement will be applied to congress. And it'll have to.

You really think Trump is going to pick up steam while not being able to pass anything, just as we're heading into another financial depression?

June 6, 2016 - 18:47

Robert King

use less buzzwords next time please, they're triggering me.

June 6, 2016 - 18:49

Daniel Murphy

Trump has literally no policy positions beyond pandering to the lowest common denominator.
Name one thing he's been consistent on.

June 6, 2016 - 18:50

Landon Brooks

Hillary seems like the kind of person who pretends to like other races but is actually incredibly racist

June 6, 2016 - 18:50

Matthew Reed

nice false-flag m8

June 6, 2016 - 18:51

Thomas Morgan

Go to RCP right now.

Trump is losing to Hillary, but he's got a shot.
The hardest to turn will be Pennesylvania, but he's within five points.

June 6, 2016 - 18:52

Joseph Perry

...

June 6, 2016 - 18:52

Austin Bailey

This is what Trump wants if he is to win

June 6, 2016 - 18:52

James Barnes

When Hillary inevitably wins she is going to be hailed by the lapdog media as the literal savior of Western Democracy from the throes of fascism.

Jesus Christ.

June 6, 2016 - 18:53

Levi Lopez

>Hillary is now the presumptive nominee because of superdelegates
Holy shit I never would have imagined the DNC would be this fucking stupid.

Buckle up niggas. Trump is a shoo-in now.

June 6, 2016 - 18:54

Thomas Flores

...

June 6, 2016 - 18:54

Tyler Richardson

I have a feeling you would start supporting it if it meant you getting someone you want in power. Oh wait, you already fucking do.

And speaking of retards who have no idea about politics proves my point. I will enjoy Trump cucking you nice and hard.

The shit will pile up regardless. It will be up to the people to decide who is less shitty.

June 6, 2016 - 18:55

Levi Watson

...

June 6, 2016 - 18:55

Leo Murphy

...

June 6, 2016 - 18:56

Jonathan Nelson

Then please explain why trump is ether the first or second most unpopular presidential nominee in US history

June 6, 2016 - 18:56

Christopher Cruz

They've been compiling polls from other sources, everything from YouGov to Rasmussen and FoxNews and given us the average.
For the most part they've been fairly accurate, and anything else is based only on your feelings.

Hillary is the one that does the worst, and as it is right now, she's still beating Trump.
You won't be able to overcome this challenge unless you acknowlege it as a fact.

June 6, 2016 - 18:57

Evan Stewart

...

June 6, 2016 - 18:57

Zachary Jones

Hehehe

This move from the Democrats just goes to show how scary Bernie is to them. They're fucking done now, after how they turned on the remotely leftist people in their party.

June 6, 2016 - 18:59

Alexander Kelly

...

June 6, 2016 - 19:00

Adrian Martinez

You came here to get salt.
There really isn't much to get though.

Many of us at least have been aware that it's the midterms and politics on the local level that's going to matter.

June 6, 2016 - 19:00

Caleb Nelson

I can't wait to read buzzfeed articles about how President Clinton proves women can be antifa too.

again, name something Trump has been consistent on. Anything will do.
TPP? he's going to renegotiate it.
Immigration? He uses undocumented laborers.
Libya? He's already backtracked on that.
ISIS? One minute he wants less intervention, the next minute he wants to kill their family members and steal their oil.
Israel/Palestine? Trump said America should be neutral at first, now he's bragging about how pro-Israel he is.
Corporate donors? He ripped Jeb Bush for taking corporate money but now he's doing the exact same thing.

June 6, 2016 - 19:00

Jackson Brown

The ruling class has chosen a class victory over a party victory. The DNC can win or lose, but the ruling class cannot afford to make even the moderate concessions demanded by Sanders.

June 6, 2016 - 19:01

Parker Barnes

Their loss really.
They proposed a political revolution.

The next one will not be so political.

June 6, 2016 - 19:03

Benjamin Bennett

>>>/out/
>>>/reddit/
>>>/gulag/

June 6, 2016 - 19:07

Alexander Williams

No tears here. Only laughter. Daddy Trump won't be saving you. He's a businessman, he needs to make money.

See also

Spooks, propaganda, and Bernie or Bust. It's also not just how 'good' Trump is is, it's how shitty Shillery is.

June 6, 2016 - 19:11

Aiden Fisher

Bernie supporters are going to go apeshit at the convention. Shit's going to get real very quick now. And tbh Trump would be the perfect Porky to be the face of evil for the revolution to fight.

June 6, 2016 - 19:11

Anthony Ward

...

June 6, 2016 - 19:13

Samuel Hill

America is scared of a fucking socdem lmao

June 6, 2016 - 19:13

Brayden Thomas

...

June 6, 2016 - 19:14

Luis Anderson

am i the only one terrified because of this? Capitalism has decayed so much that even moderate reforms to the system are considered too radical for the mainstream.
This is like every sci-fi dystopia imaginable but without the hovercars and stuff.

June 6, 2016 - 19:16

Anthony Cruz

I can't wait for the first woman nominee to crash and burn to a fucking reality show host, kek.

June 6, 2016 - 19:17

Oliver Williams

Indeed. It seems being 'anti-PC' is what is going to be their downfall, both because soon people will realize PF comes from conservatives as well, and because their precious leader won't have the charm other neoliberals have.

Thanks pol! :^)

Thank the ideologies surrounding the current political climate. Socialism has been given a slightly different version of 'big gubbermand' in the form of 'much free shit' and it's liberals who started it themselves. I wish Sanders never called himself a socialist. Don't forget about idpol either.

June 6, 2016 - 19:20

Liam Perry

I'm stunned Clinton supporters don't realize that they could have the first woman president be a convict.

June 6, 2016 - 19:21

Caleb Morgan

Good. I can't wait for Hillary to talk about party unity while young voters and independents are spilling their blood right outside.

However, unlike 1968, I doubt the media is going to cover it.

June 6, 2016 - 19:21

Easton Cook

I don't think they care. Just look at their hashtag: #ImWithHer. It's like a cult.

June 6, 2016 - 19:22

Anthony Lee

indictment when?

really just is that going to kick off there is so much evidence.

June 6, 2016 - 19:22

Jason Barnes

I guarantee they'll cover it, only so they can accuse the protesters of being violent thugs no different from Trump supporters.

June 6, 2016 - 19:22

Jaxson Edwards

I've already taken my vacation

June 6, 2016 - 19:24

Ethan Gray

anyone else going to be in the Philly area for the convention?

should we plan anything in this thread or just start another one?

June 6, 2016 - 19:27

Nicholas Miller

I'm hoping I will be

Don't really know my way around Philly though

June 6, 2016 - 19:28

Kevin Cruz

Me and my roommate probably are going. And yeah, I'd say a new thread would work best.

June 6, 2016 - 19:29

Cooper Roberts

We should definitely start a Philly thread once we see how tomorrow unfolds.

It'd be great if I could go, but I'm 18, have no money of my own, and my family wouldn't let me go by myself. My friends are in the same position. At best, I'd be with a relative and maybe a friend or two in a peaceful protest. However, I'd love to contribute to Holla Forums organizing.

June 6, 2016 - 19:31

Eli Russell

Holy shit. My mom came into my room to bring me a plate of chicken nuggets and I literally screamed at her and hit the plate of chicken tendies out of her hand. She started yelling and swearing at me and I slammed the door on her. I'm so distressed right now I don't know what to do. I didn't mean to do that to my mom but I'm literally in shock from the results tonight. I feel like I'm going to explode. Why the fucking fuck is he losing? This can't be happening. I'm having a fucking breakdown. I don't want to believe the world is so corrupt. I want a future to believe in. I want Bernie to be president and fix this broken country. I cannot fucking deal with this right now. It wasn't supposed to be like this, I thought he was polling well in California. This is so fucked.

June 6, 2016 - 19:32

Ian Smith

This pasta is as slate as those tendies friendo

June 6, 2016 - 19:33

Hudson Scott

STALE GODDAMMIT

June 6, 2016 - 19:33

James Morales

We know nothing about the 5 states tomorrow besides the polls provided.

it is fucked though.

June 6, 2016 - 19:33

James Peterson

pretty old tortellini, Holla Forumsio

June 6, 2016 - 19:34

Charles Lee

fuck i thought it was a copypasta. shit my newfag is showing.

June 6, 2016 - 19:34

Jose Lee

newfriends are always welcome

June 6, 2016 - 19:36

Jacob Davis

I have a car, and live in the area. Would definitely be down to carpooling fellow Holla Forums should we decide to organize

June 6, 2016 - 19:38

Nicholas Morales

...

June 6, 2016 - 19:48

Brayden Evans

That just makes it better. It'll be all over social media and alternative news places like TYT and David Pakman. It'll just make the class divide all the more obvious and they'll see the media is not on their side.

June 6, 2016 - 19:54

Tyler Lee

>vanityfair.com/news/2016/06/did-bernie-sanders-just-hand-trump-the-election

June 6, 2016 - 19:56

Adrian Powell

Trumpkiddies are acting like they won't get cheated on at all if shillary gets the nomination

June 6, 2016 - 20:01

Jack Allen

Hillary Supporters are vile and they deserve a Trump presidency

June 6, 2016 - 20:06

Jace Lee

More like they deserve a Hillary presidency.

June 6, 2016 - 20:10

Cameron Foster

Honestly though she's definitely the most known politician to never have been a nominee, only Paul Ryan comes close. Really, the only candidate who would have posed as much of a challenge to Clinton was Sanders and the only candidate who would have posed as much of a challenge to Sanders was Clinton. It's really fascinating how the stars lined up to give us an ice cube's shot in hell, but only that. I feel like something is constantly fucking with and laughing at humanity in general.

June 6, 2016 - 20:14

Joseph Gutierrez

wataboutgunstho

June 6, 2016 - 20:25

Alexander Roberts

what about them?
You don't need guns to stir shit up. In fact they can be counterproductive. A cop who shoots an armed man gets a very different reaction than a cop who shoots an unarmed man.

June 6, 2016 - 20:31

Gabriel Lee

Holy shit. My mom came into my room to bring me a plate of chicken nuggets and I literally screamed at her and hit the plate of chicken tendies out of her hand. She started yelling and swearing at me and I slammed the door on her. I'm so distressed right now I don't know what to do. I didn't mean to do that to my mom but I'm literally in shock from the results tonight. I feel like I'm going to explode. Why the fucking fuck is he losing? This can't be happening. I'm having a fucking breakdown. I don't want to believe the world is so corrupt. I want a future to believe in. I want Bernie to be president and fix this broken country. I cannot fucking deal with this right now. It wasn't supposed to be like this, I thought he was polling well in California. This is so fucked.

June 6, 2016 - 20:32

Adam Carter

Yes, but if Trump wins any reaction will be actively taken down. Or so I would assume.

June 6, 2016 - 20:33

Cooper Howard

Presidents aren't really monarchs though.
He won't really have that much power of the establishment doesn't back up around him.

June 6, 2016 - 20:35

Noah Nguyen

however, the feds and the cops love Trump. they'll do whatever he says.

June 6, 2016 - 20:43

Elijah Nelson

But a majority of the police force is on his side. And even if he loses violent revolution would likely take place from distressed voters. He's on track to receive more votes in the general than anyone in our history. With the police force, a huge voter base(26,000,000~ not long ago) we could see a fascist take over.

June 6, 2016 - 20:43

Isaiah James

...

June 6, 2016 - 20:54

Eli Bailey

...

June 6, 2016 - 20:56

Caleb Cooper

With a big enough groundswell, the makeup of the congress could change. It wouldn't be the first time.

June 6, 2016 - 20:57

Jaxson Gutierrez

No they don't. Today's news shows that they will throw the election rather than nominate him.

June 6, 2016 - 21:01

Gavin Torres

Haha, it's great that you're able to ignore the rest of what I said. I was quoting WaPo lol.

June 6, 2016 - 21:05

Ryder Ross

oh pls tell me more

June 6, 2016 - 21:07

Dominic Turner

It's funny that you use tyrone considering he endorsed the Trumpster

June 6, 2016 - 21:09

Dylan Sanchez

heres you

June 6, 2016 - 21:12

Noah Ross

If this were Holla Forums you would have to actually refute me. Also, there are a lot of bernouts that are voting Trump to spite Hillary.

June 6, 2016 - 21:14

Nathan Torres

The fuck guys?

youtube.com/watch?v=d7YfKcreN8M

Libertarian pick. Vid related.

June 6, 2016 - 21:15

Dominic Thomas

What's the point of refuting something irrelevant?

June 6, 2016 - 21:16

Josiah Jones

Propertarian, you mean. There is nothing libertarian about anti-democracy in the workplace.

June 6, 2016 - 21:17

Benjamin Bell

Not the Trumpfag, and Trump won't receive "more votes than anyone in history," at least not as a ratio, but he's pretty much poised to win the election as the Republican nominee unless something major happens.

People are fed up with leftists to be honest, fam.

June 6, 2016 - 21:18

Robert Howard

Nah, Libertarian. Democracy is just Ochlocracy under a nicer sounding name. A majority vote does not mean you get to gang rape me, hang me, etc.

June 6, 2016 - 21:21

Cameron Foster

What you mean is that this year has seen the death of liberalism both on the left and right.

June 6, 2016 - 21:21

Matthew Fisher

Depends on your definition of liberalism, but for the most part I'd agree with you.

I like to see it as the year the underground freedom movements grew exponentially.

June 6, 2016 - 21:23

Jason Ramirez

I see. Is having a large amount of totalitarian monarchies libertarian if I get to choose the one I must serve under in order not to starve?

June 6, 2016 - 21:23

Isaiah Flores

Really goes to show how Americans pervert movements. And what "left"? The left is dead. It was crushed a long time ago.

June 6, 2016 - 21:25

Isaiah Evans

By a big and powerful STATE no less.

June 6, 2016 - 21:29

Samuel Allen

That's right. With the incentives put out by the private sector. The state is the extension of the private sector's will. Anyways, leftism doesn't mean "big gubermand."

June 6, 2016 - 21:31

James Howard

In this case I'm referring to Democrats, or "the authoritarian left." in America (well, world-wide).

The kinds who want "Rated PG Parental Guidances" and "safe spaces" and "inclusiveness" for everything. Y'know, the metaphorical (in some cases literal) cancer eating away at Marxists.

Is the number available equal to the number of workers working under a business owner needed to call a business owner bourgeois?

joking aside, would you like an actual response or were you just looking to pick a fight?

June 6, 2016 - 21:34

Levi Wilson

Actually nah, I wanna sleep. Will check the thread in the morning.

June 6, 2016 - 21:38

Dominic Gonzalez

For the most part this is true, but the problem with revolutions is there is always chance of cooptation.

It's better to try to do it with elections, except that hasn't worked out so well either. It's either socdem or rigging. has Rojava managed to socialism yet?

It's a type of faux leftism that is still essentially liberal, though mostly with a 'neo' prefix. Most of this shit is also being pushed by private interests with larger bank accounts and way too much free time, in schools where upper middle class kids go to continue to learn how to be obedient workers, now with more idpol and forced nicenessTM. I wonder if Soros actually wants a Trump presidency.

June 6, 2016 - 21:42

Wyatt Ortiz

Yo have to be joking yo. Democrats are leftists? Really in what sense? You have to corporative parties and ever since the neoliberal shift everything when even more right-wing economically so now you have two parties really aiming for the same interests. The only difference is that one wants to be a little nicer to the people it rules and give welfare service. That's it. Democrats aren't authoritarian left because they're not even left wing. Being left wing means have a desire for change and moving away from the establishment. The pansy-ass Democrats only want to keep locks and regulations over capitalism in order to "keep it controlled and help those in need". They're social liberals. Anyways fuck the safe spaces, Rated PG Parental Guidances and all that idpol bullshit. It has become accommodated into the capitalist system and rendered obsolete, used to divide and distract those useless teenagers and sap the movement of the revolutionary potential. It's cheap change

June 6, 2016 - 21:42

Ryan Lopez

Neoliberalism is a completely different thing and has to do with privatization and free markets. Reformism will complete the task. It's naive to expect the rulers to just let go of all their powers by pleading with them. It's like asking a king to stop oppressing his peasants. Revolution is necessary.

June 6, 2016 - 21:46

Isaac Bennett

Sorry, I meant that reformism will not complete the task.

June 6, 2016 - 21:50

Ayden Walker

I was under the impression that neoliberalsim was deregulation mix with idpol. There's a reason modern 'social justice' sells like hotcakes. Also, that 8bit video on southpark.

June 6, 2016 - 21:51

Ayden Diaz

No. That's not what it is. Think Reagan, Pinochet, etc.

June 6, 2016 - 21:58

Adam Parker

I think after tonight's fuckery and the fact that it was just announced by the State Dept. that it's going to take 75 years to process Hillary's emails (not kididng), Trump is going to have a very easy time convincing the more impressionable members of the "Bernie-bro" lot to come over to his side. Not good.

June 6, 2016 - 22:04

Easton Edwards

archive.is/IMOWc

June 6, 2016 - 22:07

Hunter Sanchez

Neoliberalism is simply deregulation, period. That is, freedom to the point of insanity. IdPol is completely separate, though of course not mutually exclusive in the slightest.

Also
This is your mind on contrarianism

Dude is based, but he's abusing the terminology and he knows it.

June 6, 2016 - 22:13

Jacob Harris

...

June 6, 2016 - 22:16

Ian Bailey

Would you look at that, Hilldog is the presumptive nominee.
Remember, Richard D Wolfe endorsed Jill.

June 6, 2016 - 22:16

Evan Hernandez

I don't think he's abusing terminology. The effects of neoliberal ideology extend far beyond the market.

doiserbia.nb.rs/img/doi/1452-595X/2014/1452-595X1404503W.pdf

June 6, 2016 - 22:20

Camden Turner

fucking perfect

June 6, 2016 - 22:26

Nathan Sanders

twitter.com/Cold_Stare/status/740039202541211648

Yeap, democracy's dead.

June 6, 2016 - 22:59

Mason Moore

Those are the effects. Neoliberalism refers to something separate and older but in the real world they're entangled of course.

June 6, 2016 - 23:02

Ayden Sanchez

its been dead.. at this point the rot is starting to stink.

June 6, 2016 - 23:16

Wyatt Mitchell

...

June 6, 2016 - 23:46

Jeremiah Nguyen

What do I do? Where do I go? And don't tell me to "fight back" or some shit, it's too big and too aggressive at this point. I have absolutely no ability to organize anybody to resist this and if I did it just be impotent SJWs who think that if you chant hard enough it kills fascism. I'm scared comrades. I don't want to be put into a work camp. I don't want to be forced to suck some demagogue's dick every day or get shot or beaten to death in the street by brainwashed faggots. What the fuck why in the world did it have to be this way

June 6, 2016 - 23:56

Xavier Jones

buzzfeed.com/kyleblaine/buzzfeed-terminates-ad-deal-with-republican-party-over-trump?utm_term=.vylD6x7QLK#.tiq4mjXgM6
web.archive.org/web/20160607072827/https://www.buzzfeed.com/kyleblaine/buzzfeed-terminates-ad-deal-with-republican-party-over-trump?utm_term=.vylD6x7QLK

June 7, 2016 - 00:32

Jason Peterson

correctrecord.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Email_SecurityMatters_report.pdf

What the Hell is this even?

Server Were Secure

Seems to be the only strategies they know. Not very good arguments. It's funny that their damage control just makes them look even worse. There's really no getting out of this.

June 7, 2016 - 01:05

Jayden Price

...

June 7, 2016 - 01:24

Cameron Allen

IMPLYING THIS ELECTION WILL BE BAD

MFW NOVEMBER IS COMING

June 7, 2016 - 01:55

Jackson Peterson

TYT : CNN Ignored DNC's Request To Not Count Superdelegates Before They Vote
youtube.com/watch?v=BO90pXeoMao

June 7, 2016 - 02:12

Adam Jenkins

youtube.com/watch?v=FECIYlo3KRY

Damn it feels good to be a Clinton..

It's a Cruz ad, lmao, so it's ironic but pretty good.

June 7, 2016 - 02:33

Ethan Gray

The point, if I understand him, is to swarm outside the convention and protest; make a lot of noise and sound threatening. I think it's called the "inside-outside strategy". It's supposed to spook the superdelegates into voting for Bernie or else thousands of protesters outside will hate you (and people really hate being hated, especially by such a large mob… social animals and all that jazz) and/or they'll physically fuck your shit up.

June 7, 2016 - 03:14

Luis Garcia

Hey Holla Forums, I'm from Holla Forums so please don't jump straight up my ass. Anyway, I've been thinking and I would like to hear your opinion.

People think Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders are polarized on too many issues but I believe it to be the opposite. I see that Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders are actually quite moderate on a lot of the same issues. He has also been calling out the injustices toward Bernie from the Democratic Party. I think that if Donald asked to talk one on one with Bernie we could see a Trump/Sanders ticket. It would ensure the win easily and we wouldn't have a fucking lizard person like Hillary lol.

June 7, 2016 - 03:17

Adam Richardson

Two reasons:

1. Cold War intelligence agencies did a magnificent job of destroying the left, often using the far right. This kept a largely discredited movement afloat while dragging the left down. In the context of the middle east, this would eventually lead to radical Islam.

2. The relative prosperity of the social democratic era brought class consciousness to its knees and rather than fight this the left of the United States moved on to identity politics, and sensing their abandonment a minority but a sizable minority of workers shifted to the right under an onslaught of radio and television propaganda.

June 7, 2016 - 04:48

James Price

poal.me/j4ivko
poal.me/j4ivko
poal.me/j4ivko

so who is it, bois?

June 7, 2016 - 04:49

Evan Diaz

reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/4mtfoh/psa_rthe_donald_was_created_by_the_same_person/

June 7, 2016 - 04:50

Ian Long

they won't wake up until trump drops out amid "scandal"

June 7, 2016 - 04:55

Justin Perry

NO BERNIE OPTION

WHO WOULD YOU PICK IF BERNIE DROPPED OUT?

poal.me/s8v02f
poal.me/s8v02f
poal.me/s8v02f
poal.me/s8v02f

June 7, 2016 - 04:59

Kayden Sanchez

I would vote Green or not vote.

June 7, 2016 - 04:59

Jackson Flores

I would vote for Jill Stein.

June 7, 2016 - 05:00

Christopher Anderson

Bombshell: Clinton aide claims that if Bernie wins California he wins the nomination

marshallreport.com/2016/06/02/bombshell-clinton-aide-claims-that-if-bernie-wins-california-he-wins-the-nomination/

June 7, 2016 - 05:03

Jeremiah Scott

I keep wondering this myself.
The writing is on the wall, as far as I'm concerned.
If something drastically doesn't change, this country is about to blow up if we face another recession. The left just isn't there to counter a fascist take over. It's creeping in very subtly. Most Americans wont notice as long as they wave a flag and hold a cross as they put a boot on your throat.

June 7, 2016 - 05:56

Jackson Gutierrez

How close to another financial collapse? I agree with you, but the writing on the wall I'm scared of is another financial collapse, probably worse than 2008.

June 7, 2016 - 06:03

Grayson Walker

ABSOLUTE LOLBERTARIAN

June 7, 2016 - 06:26

Angel Edwards

I'm starting to really like this Jeff Weaver guy

June 7, 2016 - 06:36

Josiah Morris

he is in all likelihood further left than sanders

June 7, 2016 - 06:39

Brayden Williams

fucking kek

June 7, 2016 - 06:51

Mason Stewart

what a wreck of a man

June 7, 2016 - 06:53

Dylan Reed

KEK

June 7, 2016 - 06:54

Wyatt Smith

Hillary Clinton wore a $12,495 Armani jacket during a speech about inequality
cnbc.com/2016/06/06/hillary-clinton-wore-an-armani-jacket-during-a-speech-about-inequality.html

June 7, 2016 - 07:29

Xavier Parker

When will first results come in?

June 7, 2016 - 07:31

Zachary Kelly

it"s 7AM in cali right now
it'll be a while

June 7, 2016 - 07:47

Jace Fisher

NEEDS MORE ATTENTION

June 7, 2016 - 07:58

Elijah Nelson

I'm an idiot.
what does this mean?

June 7, 2016 - 08:04

Jack Sanchez

I don't know ether care to explain

June 7, 2016 - 08:07

Wyatt Hernandez

That they were planning on breaking this story two day sin advance, while they're pretending it's because of "breaking information".

It's no coincidence they published it right before the last primary

June 7, 2016 - 08:07

Daniel Carter

Ah

June 7, 2016 - 08:07

Justin Evans

The Clinton campaign team worked together with the media and planned in advance the announcement.

June 7, 2016 - 08:07

Josiah Ross

same pattern: planned agenda
youtube.com/watch?v=6VBF8zr-N50

June 7, 2016 - 08:13

Grayson Gutierrez

lol oh snap

June 7, 2016 - 08:16

Jason Miller

>>>/reddit/

June 7, 2016 - 08:38

Joseph Lopez

...

June 7, 2016 - 08:55

Jackson Garcia

Now is the time! Go to berniepb.com and make some calls! Or if you live in one of the states being contested, monitor the polling stations and report any irregularities to Election Justice USA! Alternately, knock on doors and let people know it's time to vote!

June 7, 2016 - 09:05

Adrian Cruz

reddit.com/live/x1uyyqmkwaqd
Attention Independent/Unaffiliated/No-Preference Voters in NJ:
We are already getting reports of voter suppression in here. DO NOT ACCEPT A PROVISIONAL/AFFIDAVIT BALLOT! THEY DO NOT GET COUNTED THE SAME DAY. MOST OF THE TIME THEY ARE WEEKS AFTER THE PRIMARY ELECTION.
Unaffiliated voters can affiliate with the Democratic/Republican Party when they go to vote, either early or on election day.
If you are being told to take an affidavit/provisional ballot call the voter protection hotline: (862) 235-1599

June 7, 2016 - 09:29

Owen Sullivan

wtf
He doesn't make any sense.

June 7, 2016 - 10:22

Carson Jackson

youtube.com/watch?v=RXMp9fBomJw

:^)

June 7, 2016 - 10:26

Levi Evans

reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4mzvo7/im_working_the_polls_in_california_right_now_and/

June 7, 2016 - 10:27

Liam White

People report "ballot box password" not working and voting machines down.

June 7, 2016 - 10:29

Joshua Richardson

Isn't this a really bad strategy.

Won't it just cause Hillary supporters to stay home if they think they've already won?

I mean, there'd be no point to vote if the nomination has already been clinched.

June 7, 2016 - 10:29

Jayden James

vote

i.engage.ms/App/msnbcdayside/daypulse

June 7, 2016 - 10:30

Ayden Diaz

Dayum son.

Archives and caps for pwnage.

June 7, 2016 - 10:30

Liam Wright

They must have orchestrated it looking at previous trends, private polling, and statistical analysis. I fear they know what they're doing.

June 7, 2016 - 10:32

William Hughes

You give these guys too much credit.
They've been wrong almost every time.

That doesn't mean they're not right this time.

But I'm just saying they *may* be shooting themselves in the foot.

June 7, 2016 - 10:35

Ryan Walker

i really fucking hope so

June 7, 2016 - 10:36

Adrian Howard

6/4/16 being the date in the url for the photo. And anyhow, it was like a week ago that Chris Matthews announced that "he'd heard" that media outlets would be declaring her the presumptive nominee after the next primary.

youtube.com/watch?v=Jd47lNxSwTw

He starts off with smugly saying, "This is what I call "trouble" I'm about to start here.."

Matthews is a Grade A piece of shit.

June 7, 2016 - 10:40

Alexander Allen

Isn't it 10 AM in California?

June 7, 2016 - 10:50

Zachary Perez

So apparently there is an absolute shit ton of shenanigans going on in California. Looks like they're going all out fam.

June 7, 2016 - 10:54

Levi Hernandez

10:53am. I'm out of the country right now though, had to look it up. But apparently they called it even days before the Cali election. Jumped the gun even more.

June 7, 2016 - 10:54

Caleb Moore

Received an email today telling telling me my absentee ballot was received and processed. I'll see you boys in July. #Stokes4Senate

June 7, 2016 - 11:00

Hudson Diaz

what's going on?

June 7, 2016 - 11:06

Carter Morris

Just browsing through the sanders reddit or whatever and there are tons of posts from CA fags about completely incompetent polling place staff, a lot of people commented that a lot of the people working the polls can't speak english and that many of them were just straight up given provisional ballots instead of real ballots. Also a lot of stuff over the fact that the polling locations are very poorly marked and hard to find.

June 7, 2016 - 11:08

Jace Hernandez

Oh god, here we go….

June 7, 2016 - 11:10

Zachary Cruz

This guy is a huge hillary shill

June 7, 2016 - 11:16

Bentley Smith

voting machines off
passwords not working for ballot boxes
provisional ballots
ballots missing the Bernie option

June 7, 2016 - 11:21

Kayden Ross

reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4n0hr3/suspicious_activity_at_1157_lemoyne_polling/d3zrvf5

>I'm a super vol on the campaign I came to 1157 Lemoyne Street because someone here reported suspicious activity. The lady who was running the station didn't even bother trying to set up the ballot machine and a watcher that left was given a phone to setup the machine?!? Watcher gave instructions to poll worker to get the machine running and now it's running 400 provisionals were given out (estimated). Said lady who's running the station is from new York?

June 7, 2016 - 11:41

Jackson Mitchell

I TOLD YOU THERE WOULD BE FUNNY BUSINESS AT THE BALLOTS Holla Forums!

IF THEY WERE GOING TO RIG NEW YORK, THEY'RE SURE AS SHIT GONNA RIG CALIFORNIA!

June 7, 2016 - 11:45

Ryan Wilson

I really hope the Green Party outdoes the lelbarts this election. These guys are so idiotic.
Libertarian principles are definitely something I stand behind, but the libertarians in the US are so capitalism-obsessed that they will choose capitalism over liberty in most cases (I'm looking at you, Rand Paul) that it abandons their principles. Why has freedom sold out?
>inb4 >>>/liberty/

June 7, 2016 - 11:47

Gavin Gutierrez

...

June 7, 2016 - 11:49

Gabriel Stewart

...

June 7, 2016 - 11:51

Hunter Cruz

Orange County Registrar:
Polling place turnout sample as of 11am is 4.67%. In 2012 it was 1.79%.

twitter.com/OCRegistrar/status/740244959526195202

June 7, 2016 - 12:00

Jonathan Nelson

Wow.
That's better, but it's still fucking miserable.

June 7, 2016 - 12:02

Daniel Kelly

This is what I mean, though. This is where things start to get fuzzy on liberty. Is it libertarian to not let the consumers of your goods know how your product(s) and/or service(s) are produced? There are certain points where the free market has to pressure its consumers into buying complete shit because it's become somewhat of a necessity (such as cell phones or medication or cars) or where scientific research is privatized (meanwhile we're the ones being data-mined). Granted, the state can also become just as much of a monster, if not worse, but it's foolish to go around whipping people with privatization as the end to this.
If/when we reach post-scarcity, these same private institutions would be more obviously be the enemies of freedom. Privatization wouldn't be worth defending at that point. These idiots would be far bigger morons than flat-earthers, and a pain in the ass, because they'd become a threat to individual freedom.

June 7, 2016 - 12:24

Jordan Evans

That's you.

June 7, 2016 - 12:28

Joshua Smith

Bernie will win 6/7 contests today (bad for him in NJ) and people will be in serious distrust of the media who just told them Hillary won. While Bernie will still not be able to win without the massive shift of super delegates (almost certain they won't push him over, might give him a boost), It will certainly seem crazy to the average person that Bernie wins the vast majority of contests after clinton "wins".

Does tyler (?) have a prediction yet on the numbers ?

June 7, 2016 - 12:31

Isaac Davis

So has anyone else been hearing this rumor that if Bernie wins California he's going to get the nom?

June 7, 2016 - 12:36

Cooper Scott

...

June 7, 2016 - 12:41

Luke James

dis

June 7, 2016 - 12:42

Landon Bell

what, you mean
I don't believe it. Dem party has already proven they care more about stopping Sanders than winning the white house.

June 7, 2016 - 12:42

Ryan Butler

>My district has been nearly 10:1 Republican for decades but today has changed everything. Democrats are outperforming Republicans. The young people have answered the call and even brought their parents! It looks like supporters are coming in groups. I couldn't sense a single Hillary supporter while taking my friend there either. It looks like they stayed home because the media is telling them she has already won.
NJ is definitely feeling the BERN!
reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4n0vlh/district_6_in_nj_is_having_an_imagination_huge/

people are having ballots rejected, thrown out, polling places aren't opening, and more
scpr.org/news/2016/06/07/61308/primary-election-day-here-s-what-you-need-to-know/

Pollworker Report: Tons of unaware mail in ballot voters
reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4n0q3l/pollworker_report_tons_of_unaware_mail_in_ballot/

June 7, 2016 - 12:45

Connor Miller

goddamn american democracy is a joke

June 7, 2016 - 12:47

Camden Martin

Uh excuse me, how can you claim this is voter suppression when CAUCUSES LITERALLY STILL EXIST

t. Every Clinton supporter

June 7, 2016 - 12:51

Parker Ward

...

June 7, 2016 - 12:52

Logan Price

Kek, I was right!

SHILLS HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY'RE DOING!

June 7, 2016 - 12:55

Anthony Perry

reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4mtnxl/puerto_rico_was_the_biggest_election_fraud_of_all/

June 7, 2016 - 12:56

Aiden Myers

This is to be expected my comrades.

The best thing for us to do now to promote solidarity is to support the TRUE left candidate Hillary Clinton. Reforms will never come with a divided Democratic party.

Remember:

-Posted
Your local Hill $Shill

I just got 48 cents deposited into my I Shill for Her account!

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I might as well kick off the Philly thread. Let's try to get some discussion going no matter the results today.

8ch.net/leftypol/res/717539.html

June 7, 2016 - 12:58

Jaxon Barnes

...

June 7, 2016 - 13:03

Isaac Reed

she wears the most insanely bourgeois clothing

June 7, 2016 - 13:23

Oliver Ward

archive.is/oEbIA
Bow out, Bernie Sanders. Hillary Clinton needs a clear run at the White House

June 7, 2016 - 13:26

Nolan Long

She's slowly going full Zorg

June 7, 2016 - 13:28

Carter Torres

Post your Shillary photos here

June 7, 2016 - 13:29

Owen Cox

wew

June 7, 2016 - 13:32

Nicholas Taylor

?

June 7, 2016 - 13:33

Hudson Jackson

The fourth picture is literally a Crowder meme

I mean it's not wrong but he's not the kind of dumbass I want to associate with

June 7, 2016 - 13:37

Aaron Phillips

oh, I didn't notice the watermark
I thought you meant the second one with the kid who looks like him

June 7, 2016 - 13:38

Blake Morgan

This selection sucks.

June 7, 2016 - 13:42

Dominic Parker

The US is now officially a third world country.

June 7, 2016 - 13:50

Asher Bailey

Holy shit, Holla Forums is just a cuck circlejerk. I just want one straight answer from you faggots but I can't even get your perspective? Kill yourself you communist faggots.

June 7, 2016 - 13:53

Jason Gutierrez

Nah considering trumps flip flopped on every position that could be considered decent

June 7, 2016 - 13:55

Jace Torres

you only just now realized this?

June 7, 2016 - 13:56

Adam Ortiz

...

June 7, 2016 - 13:58

Ian Sanders

Maybe if Trump ran as an independent and even then there's a better chance Bernie would just run his own independent presidential campaign

I mean the whole thing only makes sense if you believe the ridiculous Clintonite bullshit that Sanders is some sort of Randian villain tricking evil white people into voting for him because he's a racist woman hater Nazi.

June 7, 2016 - 13:58

Jaxon Brooks

youtube.com/results?search_query=trump flip flops

He seems worried for some reason.

June 7, 2016 - 13:59

Connor Rivera

cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck

June 7, 2016 - 14:00

Isaiah Hughes

...

June 7, 2016 - 14:00

Bentley Gonzalez

He wanted Bernie voters, some of them would vote for any anti-estabilishment candidate, but polling shows they are not as big as you'd think.
Trumptards according to Bernouts are nazi edgelords, while Bernouts according to Trumptards are people like aids skrillex, the enemity between the two groups of core supporters would largely result in drop for such abstract duo. It'd also give fuel to both Clinton(I told you Sanders is a racist woman hater!) and Republicans(we told you he was only pretending to be a republican!), and then the joint campaign would be kill due to both internal AND external pressure.

So pretty much the best thing we could've gotten is unspoken non-aggression pact aka Ribbentrop-Molotov: 2016 elections edition. But still, everybody knows that it could not last forever and they would ultimately fight each other/

June 7, 2016 - 14:10

Carson Sanchez

LA here. Just got back from voting for Comrade Sanders.

June 7, 2016 - 14:10

Levi Ross

America is in the second gilded age, everything on the surface is nice and shiny and corporations force diversity and multiculturalism but the reality is that everyone is in massive debt, cant pay their bills, cant find a job, etc
The wests prosperity and freedom is a Potemkin village.
And the people who wake up from this matrix are accused of being racist on the right or commies on the left.
While the liberals demand capitalists take more of their money to put more black people in dr.who or some shit.

Basically if Hillary wins the oligarchy wins and continues and americans who arent completely retarded will wake up in the chestnut tree cafe after Hillary wins.

Then nothing will change, rich wiil get richer,Hillary will make more war, i mean hate trump but he is an isolationist and wants less war, Hillary wants to bomb bomb bomb bom iran.

then 4 years from now all the people who voted for hillary will ask HURRR HOW DID THIS HAPPEN DURR

June 7, 2016 - 14:12

Camden Edwards

reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4n14it/evidence_of_voter_suppression/

June 7, 2016 - 14:16

Evan Sanders

fix'd

June 7, 2016 - 14:16

William Martin

Trump, like Reagan, is an idiot that people only like because of his public disposition. This means instead of collusion and bribery, the capitalists will simply trick him into giving them what they want.

June 7, 2016 - 14:23

Julian Collins

reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4n1dw0/possible_fraud/

June 7, 2016 - 14:25

Oliver Green

...

June 7, 2016 - 14:27

Juan Johnson

fresh oc lads

June 7, 2016 - 14:30

Justin Murphy

I want off this ride.

June 7, 2016 - 14:30

Lucas Lopez

...

June 7, 2016 - 14:31

Adam Collins

Did you really fall for this meme?
He's already started flipflopping.

June 7, 2016 - 14:36

Wyatt Lopez

...

June 7, 2016 - 14:38

Christopher Lee

Is this satire or is this how Americans actually think?

June 7, 2016 - 14:39

Leo Robinson

AAAAAAAA

June 7, 2016 - 14:40

Camden Stewart

Reminder that voting for Hillary Clinton is antisemitic.

June 7, 2016 - 14:43

Sebastian Diaz

Location - current time:
California - 02:43
South Dakota - 04:43
New Jersey - 05:43
New Mexico - 03:43
Montana - 03:43
North Dakota - 04:43

June 7, 2016 - 14:43

Leo Diaz

kek

June 7, 2016 - 14:44

Anthony Rodriguez

The latter. It's been pounded into people since a young age and for generations.

June 7, 2016 - 14:50

Evan Diaz

fug

June 7, 2016 - 14:52

Cameron Lee

TYT started streaming its live coverage: youtube.com/watch?v=jfH6El-CvTM

June 7, 2016 - 15:01

Sebastian Adams

Yeah feminists have no problem reinforcing male stereotypes if it benefits their agenda.

June 7, 2016 - 15:14

Michael Wright

...

June 7, 2016 - 15:14

Noah Kelly

Whats sadder than the obvious fraud and rigging is the fact that a lot of people simply think Hilldog is better than bernie

June 7, 2016 - 15:17

Noah Perez

Going to vote with my two friends in an hour or two my dudes

June 7, 2016 - 15:22

Ethan Howard

Nice job my dude

June 7, 2016 - 15:24

Cameron Johnson

...

June 7, 2016 - 15:32

Hudson Ortiz

DESPERATE

June 7, 2016 - 15:34

Wyatt Ortiz

just missed it
dislikes started growing I see

June 7, 2016 - 15:36

Nolan Cooper

cenk is a baby bourgeoisie

June 7, 2016 - 15:36

Jaxon Harris

AAAAAAA STOP! IF THE DEMS WANT TO WIN, THEY HAVE TO GIVE US WHAT WE WANT! WE CAN'T STOP PERPETUATING THE ANTI-VOTE SYSTEM!

June 7, 2016 - 15:39

Brody Campbell

It's a shame the jimmy dore show is only once a week

June 7, 2016 - 15:39

Henry Torres

this

if they won't give us what they want, let everything burn

we can build with ashes more easily than with this establishment

June 7, 2016 - 15:40

Daniel Barnes

DUDE FUCK TRUMP LMAO
DUDE PARTY UNITY LMAO
DUDE ITS HER TURN LMAO
DUDE DROP OUT LMAO
DUDE PUSH CLINTON TO THE LEFT LMAO
DUDE BERNIE BROS LMAO
DUDE SORE LOSERS LMAO
DUDE NOT A DEMOCRAT LMAO
DUDE SEXIST LMAO

June 7, 2016 - 15:42

Daniel Cruz

not a bad thing

June 7, 2016 - 15:43

Angel Allen

Ok this is weird

June 7, 2016 - 15:44

Dominic Edwards

?

June 7, 2016 - 15:46

Noah Ward

...

June 7, 2016 - 15:47

Liam Lewis

When you put 11/08/2016 (election day) into a Jacobin Calendar converter, you get 18 Brumaire.

Google that date if you don't understand its significance.

June 7, 2016 - 15:51

Cooper Lee

Holy shit.

June 7, 2016 - 15:53

Anthony Sanders

this is too much

June 7, 2016 - 15:53

Ryder Phillips

I hope at least some Trumpeters see him for what he is…well after he's elected anyway. It will be fun to tell them 'we told you so'. If he actually does SOME good shit. I doubt it more and more, based on the flip flopping alone. Then it's a win win. The left may be reinvigorated yet under a Trump presidency. Unless Red Scare 2.0 happens again, which thanks to Soros, the Kochs, and Stomfront, I don;t doubt that so much.

June 7, 2016 - 15:54

Lucas Bell

HAPPENING

June 7, 2016 - 15:55

Adrian Sanders

Oh shit.

this is not so good.

June 7, 2016 - 15:57

Christian Collins

Marx's essay on 18 Brumaire is also where his famous "first as tragedy, then as farce" line comes from.

Holy shit.

June 7, 2016 - 15:59

Jordan Price

(witnessed)
Considering the amount of damage an Obama presidency did to "the left" you might be right.

June 7, 2016 - 16:05

Colton Campbell

Oh my

June 7, 2016 - 16:06

Matthew Turner

...

June 7, 2016 - 16:09

Jacob Kelly

...

June 7, 2016 - 16:09

Ayden Nelson

christ

June 7, 2016 - 16:10

Mason Foster

They just need to, you know, disassociate themselves from liberals, and drop some labels, for new ones for starters, and people won't be so triggered by it.

Is this satire?

June 7, 2016 - 16:11

Nicholas Howard

Liberalism is going to kill me

June 7, 2016 - 16:12

Michael King

Is this a joke

Before Obama the vast majority of the "left" was dick-riding him because they thought he was some great revolutionary.

At least now they're a bit less mystified by black smooth-talking politicians.

June 7, 2016 - 16:13

Ryan Carter

prepare your anus, theyre just getting started.

June 7, 2016 - 16:13

Ian Adams

youtube.com/watch?v=jfH6El-CvTM

Take these dongers:

⬛ ☭ LEFTYPOL for Bernie! ☭ ⬛
🚩 ☭ LEFTYPOL for Bernie! ☭ 🚩
💥 ☭ LEFTYPOL for Bernie! ☭ 💥

June 7, 2016 - 16:14

Hunter Green

fuck off

June 7, 2016 - 16:15

Andrew Scott

and now most of the left in America is silent.
People all over the world protested Bush going into Iraq. Almost no one In America objected to Obama bombing Libya.
Having a democrat in office deradicalizes people because a lot of well meaning americans are quick to associate republicans with the right and assume that we just need to elect democrats and everything will be fine.

June 7, 2016 - 16:16

Oliver Price

This might also be part of it:
youtube.com/watch?v=HUiCrKZD5j8

June 7, 2016 - 16:17

Elijah Butler

And then what? If we have Trump in at best it will just keep the pendulum swinging. At worst he'll be seen as the next Reagan and the Democrats will do their best to make Obama look like a pinko pacifist compared to the next candidate they run

June 7, 2016 - 16:25

Isaac Campbell

I'm not disagreeing with you.

June 7, 2016 - 16:28

Luke Gray

This isn't the eighties. Young Americans are disillusioned with Reaganite horseshit. It'll help mobilize the under 45s against the boomers.

June 7, 2016 - 16:29

Juan Foster

strawpoll.me/10426331

June 7, 2016 - 16:29

Jacob Gonzalez

lel

June 7, 2016 - 16:31

Julian Carter

Reminder that your vote only affects results if you're from a swing state. If you're from a solid red or blue state vote for the best candidate. If you're in a purple state pick the lesser of two evils.

June 7, 2016 - 16:35

Jack Rodriguez

NO! DON'T DO THIS! DON'T PERPETUATE THE ANTI-VOTE! IF THE DEMOCRATS WANT TO WIN, THEY HAVE TO GIVE US WHAT WE WANT!

June 7, 2016 - 16:36

Angel Lewis

San Jose reporting in, just finished voting for our slick entryist

June 7, 2016 - 16:40

Brody Williams

How did it go?

June 7, 2016 - 16:42

Nathan Brooks

Pretty straightforward, just requested a Dem ballot and was on my way out in 30 seconds. I'm pretty disappointed in a lot of my friends since they didn't even bother registering to vote even though we've been hyping this for the past few months for them.

June 7, 2016 - 16:46

Charles Thomas

THIS

You would be surprised how many people that like Bernie's policies didn't even make the attempt to register.

June 7, 2016 - 16:48

Julian Cook

:(

This is why we need face-to-face democracy.

June 7, 2016 - 16:51

Charles Fisher

Jimmy "The Red Menace" Dore

June 7, 2016 - 16:53

Jaxon Rogers

DON'T GET MY HOPES UP Holla Forums

June 7, 2016 - 16:56

Ryan Flores

I'm kind of disappointing no one has responded to my post here.

June 7, 2016 - 16:56

Caleb Lopez

>twitter.com/ladygaga/status/740257840330215424
JUST

June 7, 2016 - 17:02

Nathan Kelly

I am SO shocked right now.
also Lady Gaga stopped being relevant back in 2013 so whatever.

June 7, 2016 - 17:05

Gabriel Collins

wasted opportunity

June 7, 2016 - 17:05

Carson Mitchell

...

June 7, 2016 - 17:05

Noah Rodriguez

New Jersey polls closed, too early to call, that means it wasn't overwhelming for clinton

June 7, 2016 - 17:06

Easton Powell

Bradley Manning would be so happy to hear that from his cell while being denied HRT.

June 7, 2016 - 17:07

Alexander Gutierrez

RE

June 7, 2016 - 17:08

Parker Watson

The Bernie Bros are out in full force harassing female reporters
washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/07/the-bernie-bros-are-out-in-full-force-harassing-female-reporters/

June 7, 2016 - 17:08

Angel Sanders

...

June 7, 2016 - 17:10

Colton Ortiz

Wow.
Patronizing like this against populist movements will bite them in the ass.

June 7, 2016 - 17:10

Kayden Parker

There's two other factors here as well, one being, the economy isn;t recovering, and two, with have regressive idpolers to deal with as well.

June 7, 2016 - 17:11

Christian Lewis

Clinton leads by 8 points in New Jersey.

That's not a lot.

June 7, 2016 - 17:12

Grayson Evans

...

June 7, 2016 - 17:12

Logan Brooks

source bls

June 7, 2016 - 17:12

Benjamin Murphy

In the polls she's leading by 20.

That means that 8 is pretty good for sanders.

June 7, 2016 - 17:13

Jacob Reed

Washington post

June 7, 2016 - 17:13

Brandon Martin

Since most of the poor blacks get their info by MSM, maybe the AP announcement will make them stay home

June 7, 2016 - 17:16

Parker Cruz

furaffinity.net/journal/7625079/
[spoiler]The autism continues[/spoiler

June 7, 2016 - 17:16

Grayson Walker

nytimes.com/elections/results

Only ~220 votes in from one county, though.

June 7, 2016 - 17:17

Alexander Morgan

theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2016/jun/07/live-primary-results-new-jersey-california

June 7, 2016 - 17:17

Evan Stewart

And Clinton supporters are still collaborating with Nazis

Which reminds me, let me check up on our friends over at /r/ess/

June 7, 2016 - 17:18

Caleb Gonzalez

...

June 7, 2016 - 17:19

Henry Cox

Enough of this fucking meme. Jimmy is pro gun control.

June 7, 2016 - 17:19

Ryan Cooper

That'll change after just a little red-pilling.
To be fair, he defended Bernie Sanders for being against the gun-suing law.

June 7, 2016 - 17:20

Jacob Rogers

gotta keep em guessing

June 7, 2016 - 17:20

Evan Morris

wew
This is the same woman who wrote a song about how 1 in 4 women get raped.

June 7, 2016 - 17:20

Joseph Walker

What?
She did?

June 7, 2016 - 17:21

Cameron Miller

washingtonpost.com/local/crime/justice-dept-granted-limited-immunity-to-staffer-in-clinton-email-probe/2016/06/07/a1a46d2c-2ce8-11e6-b5db-e9bc84a2c8e4_story.html
Justice Dept. granted limited immunity to staffer in Clinton email probe

June 7, 2016 - 17:21

Elijah Lee

They already know they are going to lose the election and already start to build the narrative, that everything is Sander's fault

June 7, 2016 - 17:22

Oliver Price

JUST

June 7, 2016 - 17:23

Austin Cooper

Yep. Not an alt-righter but "pozzed" is the perfect way to describe her. There was a whole music video about how women on college campuses are getting raped all the time, and the song's refrain is "until it happens to you, you don't know how it feels," (and therefore you don't get to have an opinion).

June 7, 2016 - 17:23

Hunter Brooks

The "Bernie Bro" meme is this election's "100 milion": a dishonest appeal to emotion that lies by omission.

Also I find it hilarious how Hillary compared Trump and the Republicans to Nazis yet now thinks people shouldn't protest and instead should wait to get killed then whoever survives should beg for peace. "Hilarious" as in "this is hell"

June 7, 2016 - 17:26

Sebastian Roberts

MARX PREDICTED THIS

June 7, 2016 - 17:26

Carter Powell

To be fair, rape on american colleges are pretty common. I mean, ridiculously so.

It's all got to do with capitalist institutions needing good PR and low crime-stats so they hush the victims up.

It's pretty gross.

I doubt Lady GaGa mentioned anything about the material forces behind the problem, though.

June 7, 2016 - 17:26

James Garcia

...

June 7, 2016 - 17:27

Jackson Martinez

You want people to vote for Trump? I'd rather vote third party.

June 7, 2016 - 17:28

Gavin Lee

>nytimes.com/2016/06/08/us/politics/hillary-clinton-democratic-nomination.html
>cnn.com/2016/06/07/politics/hillary-clinton-democratic-nomination/index.html
>washingtonpost.com/politics/how-hillary-clinton-did-it-the-second-time-around/2016/06/07/9218d622-2c20-11e6-9b37-42985f6a265c_story.html
>usatoday.com/story/opinion/2016/06/07/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-democratic-nomination-donald-trump-victory-margin-delegates-editorials-and-debates/85558492/
Remember guys, this moment literally changes the fabric of the universe. A WOMAN just won enough superdelegates to possibly become the winner of the Democratic Primaries (even though the largest blue state hasn't voted yet but forget that) that may lead to her being the nominee for the Presidential election, which she may possibly win and become the President of the United States for 4 years. ITS JUST HER TURN

June 7, 2016 - 17:29

Lucas Foster

...

June 7, 2016 - 17:29

Adam Hernandez

Where the fuck is Jimmy?

June 7, 2016 - 17:30

Cooper Taylor

The Spectacle marches on am I using that term right

June 7, 2016 - 17:31

Lincoln Young

You forgot your shitposting flag, fam.

June 7, 2016 - 17:33

Parker Clark

the fact that people keep using the term spectacle without knowing what the spectacle is would probably make Debord even more depressed.

June 7, 2016 - 17:33

Ethan Jenkins

CNN has several thousand more votes counted than AP and the ratio is holding for the most part

June 7, 2016 - 17:34

Camden Wood

It's true.
Now, there aren't a lot of rapists, those who rape just really aren't punished and go on to be serial rapists.

June 7, 2016 - 17:34

Liam Reyes

...

June 7, 2016 - 17:34

Alexander Clark

spectacle = memes

June 7, 2016 - 17:35

Bentley Fisher

Even if it does happen a bit more on campuses, which I haven't seen much evidence for,
the 1 in 4 statistic is bullshit.

June 7, 2016 - 17:36

Jayden Torres

I like this post. I'm not being ironic, I just wanna let you know I agree.

Even off campuses, rape and child sex abuse is unnervingly common. Two unrelated people I'm close to were molested as toddlers, I'm closely related to someone else who was raped repeatedly through her teens, and I have two good friends' whose mothers were both detained and raped by their partners in young adulthood, and at least three men who were molested, as well. I don't even have a large friend circle or anything.

Shit's fucked.

June 7, 2016 - 17:36

Leo Parker

Where is the evidence for this? Every time someone tries to make a big deal about muh rape on campus, the story turns out to be a fucking hoax. And even though it's obviously a hoax, the accused still get shit on.

June 7, 2016 - 17:37

Ethan Ortiz

pls stop new jersey

June 7, 2016 - 17:37

Connor Carter

my gott

June 7, 2016 - 17:38

Tyler Bennett

Obama despises the Clinton's. They are the same entity who conjured up his "Muslim Kenyan" heritage used by the birther movement.

A cali win will be a simple Icing on the cake.

June 7, 2016 - 17:39

David Evans

Look closely, everyone. This is how this meme spreads. People who have anecdotal evidence will speak up, and confirmation bias does the rest.

June 7, 2016 - 17:40

Ian Perez

I didn't say it was 1 in 4, I just said that by my country's standard, it's ridicuously common.

My theory is that the college culture bleeds out in the rest of society, but I'm not american so I wouldn't know.

Why do you go out of your way to defend capitalist institutions?

June 7, 2016 - 17:40

Hunter Young

Where's that?

June 7, 2016 - 17:40

Oliver Ortiz

Denmark,

June 7, 2016 - 17:40

Dylan Long

Why is that necessarily a defense of capitalist institutions and not the accused?

June 7, 2016 - 17:41

Adam Evans

Disagreeing about what is or isn't true is not the same as defending capitalist institutions. I hate colleges, but that's irrelevant to the truth of what happens there.

June 7, 2016 - 17:41

Daniel Stewart

I'm not even a huge fan of Bernie, but god, porky really won this round.

June 7, 2016 - 17:43

Hudson Collins

Let's keep this conversation from going on for a long time with people obliquely disagreeing, so we can get back to actually talking about the fucking election ITT.

What is your definition of rape?

June 7, 2016 - 17:44

Leo Kelly

Because they hush a huge amount of rape cases in order to keep up appearances and keep a profit going for themselves.

Sure, liberal react too harshly in the other direction and at the accused rather than the system itself, but that doesn't mean that there is no problem.

June 7, 2016 - 17:44

Leo Garcia

remind me to never, ever go there

June 7, 2016 - 17:45

Carson Perry

New Jersey called for Clinton

June 7, 2016 - 17:45

Jonathan Wright

Why would anyone want to be friends with an idiot who wears a stocking cap in June?

June 7, 2016 - 17:45

Brayden Jenkins

Sexual intercourse without consent.

June 7, 2016 - 17:46

Lincoln Sullivan

Yeah, that might be different.
I don't know much about Denmark, as far as that is concerned.

June 7, 2016 - 17:46

Cooper Brown

I just listed 8 people I know well who've been raped or molested and I'm practically a hermit.

Sure, it's anecdotal, but when you have a lot of people offering similar anecdotal evidence, doesn't that imply something about society overall? What's wrong with acknowledging there's a problem with sexual violence? It exists, it's not rare, and it ruins lives. Maybe you disagree with how it's handled now, but then what you need to do is help find a different, better way to treat it.

June 7, 2016 - 17:46

Kayden Ortiz

This is why i consider them to be honorary southerners.

June 7, 2016 - 17:47

Connor Wood

E V I D E N C E
It's not a college's place to deal with rape. That shit is supposed to go to law enforcement. If they don't handle it, it's a problem with them. Colleges aren't sovereign fucking nations. Where does this pure ideology come from that colleges have full control over students' lives? Tastes pretty capitalist to me, fam.

also this

June 7, 2016 - 17:48

Julian Lee

REMINDER THAT INCORRECT EXIT POLLING IS AN AUTOMATIC RED FLAG FOR VOTER FRAUD

Main reason Bernie Lost New York

June 7, 2016 - 17:49

Justin Gonzalez

Yeah, but the do. They have campus police and if they can, they will try to circumvent going to the cops.

You're absolutely right that they're not supposed to do that, but their crisis councilors will intimidate you and encourage to drop the case.

June 7, 2016 - 17:50

Dominic Murphy

NO
Any one person's social circle is essentially the opposite of a representative sample.

Because there's no evidence that it's unusually common compared to other crimes, it's being pushed by ideologically driven people, and it's being used to push legal changes. This is the exact kind of situation where skepticism should be employed to its full use, like when people claim there's an autism epidemic because vaccines or a human sacrifice epidemic because Satanists.

June 7, 2016 - 17:52

Jordan Martinez

Assuming that's true, the problem is the victims going to the campus police rather than the actual police.

June 7, 2016 - 17:54

Jose Campbell

Campus police should not exist tbqh

June 7, 2016 - 17:55

Jaxon Thompson

twitter.com/SenSanders/status/740337798797004800

How does this make you feel, lads?

June 7, 2016 - 17:55

Ian Nguyen

Listen, we can oppose SJW lynch mobs and also acknowlege that there is a problem.

bls

June 7, 2016 - 17:56

Liam Parker

Gotta hide the power level.

June 7, 2016 - 17:56

Cooper Martin

Listen we can oppose SJW lynch mobs while also unskeptically believing their claims.

June 7, 2016 - 17:57

Camden Reyes

It's fine.
Didn't need to use "communist" though, but hey.
We socialist probably need to find new labels anyways. Anything associated with Marx and thus with Stalin is not going to catch on in the 21st century.

June 7, 2016 - 17:58

Carson Robinson

this

if anybody needs to say "i'm not a commie", it's a commie

June 7, 2016 - 17:58

Connor Rodriguez

Are you really so opposed to the idea that America might have a little bit of a crime issue because of capitalism, and this could be another manifestation of the same thing?

June 7, 2016 - 17:59

Evan Sullivan

bootlickers tbpfhwyf

June 7, 2016 - 17:59

Jeremiah Young

What did he say?

June 7, 2016 - 17:59

Liam Davis

people have been calling democrats socialists since FDR

June 7, 2016 - 18:00

Mason Hughes

all identity politics belongs in the gulag

June 7, 2016 - 18:00

Anthony Flores

i think that's untrue tbqh

June 7, 2016 - 18:00

Andrew Sanders

Up about ten points in SD so far

June 7, 2016 - 18:06

Zachary Morales

I was talking about myself individually, but you'll meet a ton of people who will tell you the same. You probably even know people very well that are victims that you either just aren't talking about or it hasn't been revealed to you yet.

I concede that, but it's kind of more damaging to people than . The toll it often takes on people's mental health is intense. I think that

I'm not an SJW and neither are the people I listed. They don't just make that kind of shit up for the fuck of it. I'm not saying women and girls are the only victims. I'm trying to say hey people get raped and molested all the time and we should be looking out for them and trying to prevent it from happening to anyone else.

I'm done derailing the thread now unless you really want me to respond to something.

June 7, 2016 - 18:07

Wyatt Richardson

Nah fuck off, I'm tired of voting for neoliberal scum, no matter which party they come from.

June 7, 2016 - 18:09

Anthony Watson

also down 36 to 63 in NM

June 7, 2016 - 18:10

Carson Phillips

literally how

June 7, 2016 - 18:10

Adrian Thomas

early voting and sanders supporters forgetting to make that left turn

June 7, 2016 - 18:12

Aaron Gutierrez

pic

Did China ever even claim to be Communist though? The USSR didn't.
They're Socialism with Chinese Characteristics, right (turbo capitalism in reality).
/liberty/ gets really triggered by them.
Yesterday they basically claimed every country with sweatshops and slave-like conditions has it due to weak property rights derived from a Socialist past. Fact is those countries are outcompeting them so hard that western countries are constantly asking china to decrease production and "dumping"

June 7, 2016 - 18:12

Nathan Garcia

Absolutely expected, and it should end up finalizing even higher, since they count early votes (old people, who usually love Clinton) first. I spent a day in ND last week and it's the only day I've ever even been there, but I just can not imagine it wouldn't go heavily to Bernie. They also held a totally open primary, not voter registration even required.

4% of North Dakotans are Native American, too, which ought to help. I know it's not much, but Bernie does great with Native Americans. I think he's the only candidate who speaks to the issues that effect them most.

June 7, 2016 - 18:12

Jeremiah Myers

he meant Clinton is up comrade

June 7, 2016 - 18:14

Jonathan Sanchez

Watching libertarians simultaneously call China a communist dictatorship and hold it up as proof the free market works is always hilarious.

June 7, 2016 - 18:14

Julian Nguyen

Fuck….

June 7, 2016 - 18:15

Charles Martin

complete disaster averted in NM

June 7, 2016 - 18:16

Ian Hernandez

it's now 47 2 here comes bernie

June 7, 2016 - 18:16

Juan Thomas

that part was me, not lolberts.

June 7, 2016 - 18:16

Jonathan Foster

so he's redpilling Americans by telling them that capitalist America is worse than communist China…? this is bad how?

June 7, 2016 - 18:16

Isaac James

47.2 to 52.3

June 7, 2016 - 18:18

Kayden Rodriguez

Don't fear the Midwest, guys. SD and ND are gonna pull through for Bernie. The only Midwestern states that haven't gone to him are IL, IA, and MO, which were virtual ties. OH was a fluke because independents voted for Kasich en masse to cockblock Trump from winning Ohio, a winner-take-all state on the GOP side.

The eastern third of MT is pretty much Midwestern in culture, too, and the Rocky states and northwest have been good to him anyway for the rest of the state.

June 7, 2016 - 18:19

Jacob Roberts

I don't trust Trump, however he certainly knows how to appeal to the American worker.

June 7, 2016 - 18:20

Juan Wright

I was speaking more generally there, not responding to you specifically.
I once had a lolbert tell me that China had a communist government with a capitalist economy, which proves that words have no meaning to the right.

June 7, 2016 - 18:20

Adrian Davis

whose the yellow jacket guy in SD lmao

June 7, 2016 - 18:21

Gabriel Parker

fuck off retard
>>>Holla Forums
>>>/gulag/

June 7, 2016 - 18:22

Christopher Flores

...

June 7, 2016 - 18:23

Jose Thompson

HOW

June 7, 2016 - 18:23

Jason Fisher

...

June 7, 2016 - 18:23

Daniel Bailey

Cool dodging the question. America's crime problem is a separate issue from whether or not idpolers are lying to you.

I didn't say anything about being against lynch mobs.

Do you faggots even know what MRA stands for? Who said anything about mens rights? "SJWs are lying to you" has nothing to do with men specifically.

QED

June 7, 2016 - 18:24

Eli Martinez

I'd rather have Clinton that Sanders any day of the week.

June 7, 2016 - 18:26

Samuel King

Here are the actual ND results, which has Bernie WAY in the lead:
howwillamericavote.com/static.aspx?view=ndcaucus

Hillary doesn't have anywhere near the lead the mainstream sites are showing right now (which is based on a ridiculously small sample size of only 11 voters)

June 7, 2016 - 18:26

Ryan Perez

lmao nevermind

June 7, 2016 - 18:26

Jordan Mitchell

I don't get it. I'm seeing 60/30 for Sanders.

June 7, 2016 - 18:27

William Barnes

pero por que

June 7, 2016 - 18:28

Jayden Jenkins

what are you doing if sanders doesn't win?

i'm finally buying that bunker

June 7, 2016 - 18:28

Asher Morales

The updated numbers make more sense lmao

June 7, 2016 - 18:28

Julian James

Look at the context. It's a Trump supporter. He means Hillary is easier to beat.

June 7, 2016 - 18:28

Owen Myers

I guess it could be worse than 60/40

June 7, 2016 - 18:30

Connor Martinez

60 30 dude.

June 7, 2016 - 18:33

Andrew Williams

yes, i know

June 7, 2016 - 18:33

Angel Evans

What the fuck is up with SD? Is this gonna be a repeat of the margins between Bernie and Hillary in KS (ND) vs NE (SD)?

June 7, 2016 - 18:33

Colton Morgan

CALIFORNIA POLLS WHERE ??

June 7, 2016 - 18:34

Liam Jackson

IIRC SD has lots of fossil fuel based jobs. Hillary is mega pro-fracking, and Bernie is completely opposed.

June 7, 2016 - 18:34

Oliver Richardson

talking about new jersey famalam

June 7, 2016 - 18:34

Noah Phillips

whoops
my bad fam

June 7, 2016 - 18:34

Samuel Peterson

I thought ND had all the fracking. or do they have oil instead

June 7, 2016 - 18:35

Chase Edwards

in 2 hours

June 7, 2016 - 18:35

Isaiah Wood

1 and a half hours.

June 7, 2016 - 18:36

Wyatt Myers

youtube.com/watch?v=nO7GAbBoIF0
what's with the bimbos standing behind him?

June 7, 2016 - 18:36

Juan Campbell

wife and daughter

June 7, 2016 - 18:37

Jose Johnson

Shit man I have no idea.

Both times I've been to SD I've seen trucks and businesses meant to clean oil-contaminated water though, or something of the sort, and it broke my heart. Sure, it provides employment, but I don't understand how you could trade off poisoning your drinking water for jobs when you get to the voting booth.

June 7, 2016 - 18:37

William Ward

North Dakota is one of the least populated states in America.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Dakota_oil_boom
The Oil's running out though. Their Economy is in danger

June 7, 2016 - 18:37

Blake Morgan

Only based California can save us now. SD, PR, NJ, and NM all decided that being exploited isn't actually that bad

June 7, 2016 - 18:38

Daniel Peterson

So is he gonna drop out/suspend his campaign tonight or not? The fact that he's flying back home to Vermont makes it seem that way.

June 7, 2016 - 18:39

Mason Cooper

fugg
Now I can see why he made those comments about dating his daughter.

June 7, 2016 - 18:39

Daniel Long

fucking lol

June 7, 2016 - 18:40

Joseph Reed

No. He probably just wants to take a break. I mean shit. He's been working very hard.

June 7, 2016 - 18:40

John Cook

He took a private call from Obama today. I guarantee he'll be endorsing her in his speech tonight.

June 7, 2016 - 18:40

Justin Myers

No. South Dakota has a LOT of baby boomers. They make up most of the state.

I project SD is going to split down the middle, again. Most of east river will go to Hillary, most of west river will go for Sanders.

That's a good sign. That's Sioux Falls, SD's largest population center.

June 7, 2016 - 18:41

Easton Davis

pls no
no want

June 7, 2016 - 18:41

Lucas Miller

...

June 7, 2016 - 18:42

David Perez

Dude first female president lmao

That's like, the biggest thing you can do to challenge the establishment :DDD

June 7, 2016 - 18:43

Jaxson Fisher

I've only been to ND once and spent less time there than in SD (drove through the central-south area to Bismarck, and then west to Dickinson and then over the MT state line), but only saw those kinds of services in SD. It wasn't 30 minutes into the southeastern edge that I started seeing the trucks.

Ivanka's 6'0", attractive, and smart, but she's a porky and enables her dad so she can soak up the run-off from his newfound political power. Tiffany's ugly as shit though, poor girl. She really gets the worst of Trump's facial genetics.

June 7, 2016 - 18:43

Samuel Morgan

Looks like Hillary ordered a drone strike on the glass ceiling BAYBEE!

June 7, 2016 - 18:43

Thomas Long

YEAH YOU TELL EM BREAK THAT GLASS CEILING GIRLFRIEND AHAHAHAHAHA

June 7, 2016 - 18:43

Lucas Clark

Yeah, I was talking from his perspective not mine.

June 7, 2016 - 18:44

Hunter Taylor

I saw someone say it somewhere that Hillary breaks the glass ceiling for herself and leaves everyone else to pick up the shards. RIP.

June 7, 2016 - 18:45

Josiah Sullivan

I get to watch Trump and Hillary make a jokes of themselves on the national stage.

Better be nice to me Trumpfags or I'm voting for Gary Johnson.

June 7, 2016 - 18:45

Levi Price

kek
More likely she'd tell everyone that it's still there even after becoming president.

June 7, 2016 - 18:46

Wyatt Adams

Flushing the country down the toilet for 4 years is surely worth a few months of political theatre

June 7, 2016 - 18:46

Cameron Roberts

HELLO DARKNESS MY OLD FRIEND

June 7, 2016 - 18:46

Jayden Miller

BASED WARREN COUNTY

June 7, 2016 - 18:47

Elijah Wilson

Why do I feel worse about South Dakota than I do about New jersey?

June 7, 2016 - 18:49

James Edwards

Mic.com headline one year from now: President Clinton slays homophobia in Russia with just one tweet.

June 7, 2016 - 18:49

James Garcia

Well, at least Hillary won't get a clean sweep of all the counties in any state tonight.

June 7, 2016 - 18:49

Ayden Ramirez

NJ has been better than expected (aka, not as horrible as it could have been), SD is worse.

I feel a bit betrayed by my fellow Midwesterners.

June 7, 2016 - 18:50

Dylan Smith

at least IN and MI were the two biggest upsets of the race

June 7, 2016 - 18:51

Elijah Smith

Do you think she will be a one term president?

June 7, 2016 - 18:52

Hudson Taylor

the Democrates have a strangle hold over NJ politics in terms of party establishment, so I won't be surprised if Hillary does win that state. CA is our last chance.

June 7, 2016 - 18:52

Aiden Gutierrez

>Formal rape accusations can be made and verdicts rendered without the knowledge of the alleged victimsurvivor

#BelieveTheVictimExceptMenFalseslyAcusedOfRape

Almost as triggering as Sweden

#VaginaForPresident
#MargareteThatcherWasMoreProgressiveThanBernieSanders

June 7, 2016 - 18:53

Camden Martin

...

June 7, 2016 - 18:53

Aaron Morgan

She'll probably get assassinated lmao

June 7, 2016 - 18:53

Jaxson Fisher

tbh

June 7, 2016 - 18:53

Camden King

I refuse to believe that people in America will tolerate another eight years of neoliberalism when the economy never recovered from 2007.
socialism or barbarism yo. If Clinton gets in we just need to fight harder next time.

June 7, 2016 - 18:55

Joseph Diaz

pure coincidence

June 7, 2016 - 18:56

Zachary Carter

Well Midwestern friend perhaps some good news will lighten you up.

Heads up from Wyoming here. I doubt the news will cover it until later but we've submitted a challenge to our current delegate selection of 7 Clinton:7 Sanders (plus 4 Unpledged delegates for Clinton) because it was calculated improperly and should have been 8 Sanders:6 Clinton. If the DNC responds how we think they might, they may end up "punishing" Wyoming for the incompetence/outright maliciousness of our party leaders by cutting our entire state pledged delegation in half and removing all 4 unpledged delegate votes. That would change it from 11 Clinton:7 Sanders delegates to 4 Sanders:3 Clinton delegates in the end.

June 7, 2016 - 18:56

Noah Reyes

tbh can you two just make a new thread about college sex and get the fuck out of this one?

June 7, 2016 - 18:57

Charles Wood

>ExceptMenFalseslyAcusedOfRape
Nah, but see those aren't really victims. Because when people attack them, it helps raise awareness for the problem! People actually said this shit to me IRL during the UVA thing.

More like
>Sex with a drunk woman is rape, even if the man is UNCONSCIOUS.
archive.is/E37UZ (archived because the source is reason.com)

June 7, 2016 - 18:57

Nolan James

...

June 7, 2016 - 18:57

Michael Bell

Don't forget

June 7, 2016 - 18:59

Jayden Howard

Hm…
Well fuck, it checks out.

June 7, 2016 - 19:00

Jeremiah Diaz

...

June 7, 2016 - 19:00

James Ramirez

But it's one of the biggest issues at stake in the election. Brocialists are literally raping the right side of our democracy's history by continuing to run. Bernouts continuing to seek the nomination clear to Phillie is just… I can't even, it's 2016, people!

June 7, 2016 - 19:01

Christian Long

You're forgetting the worst part.
Instead of, you know…

June 7, 2016 - 19:02

Liam Reyes

I KNOW WHAT WE SHOULD! WE SHOULD JUST RAPE CLINTON AND TRUMP!

June 7, 2016 - 19:02

Jonathan Evans

...

June 7, 2016 - 19:03

Grayson Miller

(checked)
I have a better idea! They should rape each other! The free market of ideas wins again at efficiency!

June 7, 2016 - 19:03

Jaxson Bailey

Holy shit, 91% for Bernie in Montana out of the gate

June 7, 2016 - 19:03

Gavin Howard

N O N V I A B L E
O
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V
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June 7, 2016 - 19:04

Landon Roberts

BEN GARRISON APPROVES

June 7, 2016 - 19:05

Henry Diaz

MONTANA'S BEEN WAITING FOR THIS

June 7, 2016 - 19:05

Isaiah Murphy

...

June 7, 2016 - 19:06

Michael Ward

Rape kits are a great idea, unfortunately a lot of them go untested and while rape victims should use them, I'm certain is scary and invasive, and a lot of people are just shameful, or a scared the environment won't be welcoming. What is it even like to be raped? What do you do afterwards? What do you think about? What's your emotional state? I'm certain a lot of people want to take showers or baths, but may not think about how that taints the evidence, or are so emotionally compromised they can't bring themselves to care in that moment.

I dunno, man. More victims need to do rape kits, but they also need to be tested more frequently, and people reassured that the ER will be a safe place to go.

June 7, 2016 - 19:08

Jackson Hernandez

Yeah no there not. Thats absolute bullshit. I can't believe we actually have retards that there is a "rape culture" on college campuses posting here now. Please fuck off to whatever shithole you came from. You're cancer.

June 7, 2016 - 19:08

Jonathan Lopez

...

June 7, 2016 - 19:09

Juan Myers

...

June 7, 2016 - 19:10

Brandon Nelson

East river has all of the population centers, so of course they go for Shillary. They did it before in the last Democratic primary.

West river hasn't reported all of their votes yet. Neither is has Minnehaha or Lincoln counties. Be patient.

June 7, 2016 - 19:10

Anthony Jackson

What happened with New Mexico and South Dakota?

June 7, 2016 - 19:11

Chase Price

being hillary is suffering

June 7, 2016 - 19:11

Ian Roberts

New Mexico could easily turn tonight. Or it could be a repeat of Arizona.

June 7, 2016 - 19:12

Carson Collins

:^( pls don't remind me

June 7, 2016 - 19:12

Justin Edwards

Yeah, this is exactly why it's horrible to tell people that police won't believe rape victims and not to seek justice. Someone in that state is going to have a hard time figuring out what to do next, and beating it into their heads beforehand that nobody will believe them is just going to make it worse. Beyond that, it also reduces the likelihood that they'll get the rape kit done at all, which reduces the likelihood of catching the rapist if they even go to the justice system (which is also less likely to happen since they think nobody will believe them), and the result of all this is that an rapist is less likely to go to prison, leaving them free to rape again (since rapes are mostly committed by a small number of serial rapists). Feminists could tell women what resources are in place to get justice for the crime and to prevent further crime, or they could tell them something that will just make the trauma worse and discourage them from doing what they can to help the problem.
HARD FUCKING CHOICE I KNOW

June 7, 2016 - 19:14

Andrew Morgan

"Rape culture" implies that many people partake in it.
That isn't necessarily true.
However, you have some serial offenders who aren't caught.

June 7, 2016 - 19:14

Mason Allen

wow bernie, sucks that you went from 46 to 30 so fast. don't be such a sore loser

June 7, 2016 - 19:14

Christopher Anderson

Which isn't evidence of absolutely anything at all. I've never known a single person that's been raped or molested in my life. My anecdotal evidence is as good is yours. So I guess that mean sex crimes never ever happen right? I mean I've never known anyone that was a victim of a sex crime.

June 7, 2016 - 19:14

Joshua Wright

...

June 7, 2016 - 19:16

Samuel Morales

Only person I know who was a victim of a sex crime is a man in his 50s.

June 7, 2016 - 19:16

Henry King

Jesus Christ, why would you let it live?

June 7, 2016 - 19:18

Wyatt Flores

Democratic Primaries: Is Clinton leading by 3 million votes?
richardcharnin.wordpress.com/2016/05/28/democratic-primaries-is-clinton-leading-by-3-million-votes/

– Actual votes in caucus states are not included in the count – to the benefit of Clinton.
– Exit polls indicated voting machines were hacked – to the benefit of Clinton.
– Voter rolls were manipulated – to the benefit of Clinton.
– Long lines and reduced polling stations reduced voter turnout – to the benefit of Clinton.

>Sanders leads overall by approximately one million votes.

June 7, 2016 - 19:18

Samuel Sanders

sputniknews.com/world/20160607/1040951223/assange-clinton-google-deal.html

June 7, 2016 - 19:18

Joseph Butler

In the US, abortion is the only form of euthanasia that's not considered murder.

June 7, 2016 - 19:19

Bentley Johnson

So? Where are you going with it? Rape is not incredibly prevalent on college campuses. In fact , it's been in decline in America for several decades. It's just unjustified hysteria created by opportunists.

June 7, 2016 - 19:21

Hudson Hernandez

you'd be suprised

June 7, 2016 - 19:21

Oliver Evans

what
a
surprise

It's not like Microsoft runs the polling machines and the technology that CNN uses to cover the election.

Yeah I was being glib.

June 7, 2016 - 19:21

Bentley Perry

...

June 7, 2016 - 19:22

Samuel Moore

Reporting might be in decline, but the problem is incredibly bad.
Fraternities and sororities, indeed the capitalist institutions are fucking desperate to cover it up though.

June 7, 2016 - 19:23

Thomas Clark

See like I said anecdotal evidence is worthless. If we go by your life experience not enough is being done to protect middle aged men for sex predators that are obviously targeting them in huge numbers.

June 7, 2016 - 19:23

Alexander Gutierrez

...

June 7, 2016 - 19:23

Brandon Murphy

Are you saying I support telling people no one will believe rape victims or what? I'm a strong proponent of making sure the people and places they need to go to are going to be helpful and that people know that, even before anything might happen to them.

You probably do, but just haven't heard it. It took me 18 years to learn my mom and grandmother were molested. Most of my friends are women, who are the majority of victims of sexual violence (obviously not the only victims, and there are other crimes, like murder, in which the majority of the victims are men), and I'm female and I think people tend to be more open around women than men. I definitely am.

June 7, 2016 - 19:24

James Cruz

...

June 7, 2016 - 19:24

Hudson Reed

Oh great

Can't start to see more of this hot new meem

June 7, 2016 - 19:25

Leo Ortiz

Hillary giving her victory speech in Brooklyn is the biggest fuck you imaginable to Bernie.

June 7, 2016 - 19:26

Jayden Morales

that baby looks pretty smart tbh. it probably just wont talk because its too smart for our shit

June 7, 2016 - 19:26

Asher Mitchell

I'm not saying anything about you, just pointing out the problem with "the police won't believe you!!!!" for those who didn't already figure it out on their own, which must be a lot of people considering how often feminists repeat it.

June 7, 2016 - 19:26

Isaac Lopez

...

June 7, 2016 - 19:26

Mason Roberts

No it's not like I said rape isn't a problem on college campuses. It's not "capitalist institutions" covering anything up. It's lying feminists fudging numbers to support their misguided agenda. I don't believe in a prevalence of sex crime on campuses. There isn't a shred of evidence. It's pure nonsense.

June 7, 2016 - 19:27

Ayden Bell

Oh well.
They will have the president they deserve.

June 7, 2016 - 19:27

Xavier Sanchez

...

June 7, 2016 - 19:27

Christopher Roberts

...

June 7, 2016 - 19:28

Asher Smith

You don't believe a campus has an interest in lower crime stats to increase profits?

June 7, 2016 - 19:28

Gabriel Davis

...

June 7, 2016 - 19:29

Ayden Gomez

whelp get ready for george bush in a dress fellas

June 7, 2016 - 19:29

Brody Gray

She's got nothing to worry about, fam. Her friends already rigged it for her.

June 7, 2016 - 19:30

Leo Clark

That's Rapid City, SD's 2nd largest population center. Sanders will rule the west.

June 7, 2016 - 19:30

Grayson Bell

Here's a video of it in case anyone's interested:
youtube.com/watch?v=Du2mLuK9edk

June 7, 2016 - 19:30

Levi Edwards

...

June 7, 2016 - 19:30

Charles Wood

We blew the first black president with Obama

Why not have an absolute nightmare for the first female prez too?

June 7, 2016 - 19:30

Luke Brooks

Democracy was a mistake.

June 7, 2016 - 19:30

Jackson Nelson

Oh, this sounds like a fun game!

The only person I know who was molested was me by my younger sister, who made a game out of grabbing my dick and making me uncomfortable. Our parents didn't allow me to do anything to stop her because that's being violent with a poor defenseless girl. So I guess this means we should teach girls not to grab dicks!

June 7, 2016 - 19:31

Wyatt Perry

Don't you mean

"not letting the South go was a mistake"?

June 7, 2016 - 19:31

John Scott

FTFY

June 7, 2016 - 19:32

Blake Gomez

Doubtful, Trump'll likely win when all the Bernie folks say fuck you to Shillary.

I'll give Rethuglicans credit where credit is due- they have solidarity in all the times when they should be divided.

June 7, 2016 - 19:33

Brayden Fisher

#ListenAndBelieve should be enough for anyone

Given the enormous numbers of tranniesLGBTQIARSTUVWXYZ, schitzo horsefucking LARPersotherkin, pedosephobaphiles, and other highly diverse people on this site, I'm sure anecdotes from here are a statistically representative and important perspective.

#StunningAndBrave

Pic related

June 7, 2016 - 19:33

Jaxson Bennett

America was a mistake tbh

June 7, 2016 - 19:33

Jayden Clark

how younger? post greentext pls faps

June 7, 2016 - 19:34

Camden Foster

I don't give a shit that you're a women. Like I said anecdotal evidence is absolute worthless. Based off my life rape never happens ever. Which we both know isn't true. Your life experience is meaningless in the context of national and global trends. I know nothing of your background , and the various factors that could influence high sex crime rates in your community. It does not apply to the country you live in and most certainly not the world as a whole.

June 7, 2016 - 19:34

Chase Diaz

Forgot pic

June 7, 2016 - 19:34

Oliver Thompson

...

June 7, 2016 - 19:34

Juan Jones

It's not too late, user.

June 7, 2016 - 19:34

Julian Bailey

...

June 7, 2016 - 19:34

Dominic Martin

Montana is a pretty conservative state, they'll probably vote for Hillary.

June 7, 2016 - 19:35

Leo Young

It's 74%, lad. Time to give it up.

June 7, 2016 - 19:35

John Reyes

i have found the perfect post-modern neoliberal candidate

June 7, 2016 - 19:35

Leo Sanders

Not much to greentext. We were both little. Parents would bathe us together. She'd grab my dick and yank as hard as she could (which was pretty hard tbh). They'd laugh at her "antics" and spank me if I tried to stop her.

June 7, 2016 - 19:37

Ian Morales

reaching out to conservatives

June 7, 2016 - 19:37

Jeremiah Cook

Sure I do but I also think feminists and liberals have a vested interest in creating hysteria to increase their own influence. Which is obviously what's going on.

June 7, 2016 - 19:38

Connor Cox

Are you actually watching her speech? How can you stomach it?

June 7, 2016 - 19:38

Asher Watson

TYT commentary makes it almost tolerable

June 7, 2016 - 19:39

Justin Anderson

Jimmy Dore is cracking me up right now

June 7, 2016 - 19:39

Austin Green

Yes, Clearly college liberals are the ones with the power.
Not the actual universities themselves.

June 7, 2016 - 19:40

Luke Gutierrez

Best way to know your enemy is to watch your enemy.

June 7, 2016 - 19:40

Cameron Turner

This is why our politics are so shit - because people think two wrongs make a right.

June 7, 2016 - 19:40

Ryder Richardson

I was watching them as well but have it muted; I don't want to hear her celebration of corruption.

So that's why ancaps come here.

June 7, 2016 - 19:41

Nolan Davis

In light of tonights election results, I'd like to remind everyone that politicians are not immortal and that Mckinley was assassinated by an anarchist.

June 7, 2016 - 19:41

Elijah Carter

The FBI will be knocking at your door any minute.

June 7, 2016 - 19:42

Brody Wright

Who do you think is giving the retarded students those ideas?

June 7, 2016 - 19:42

Thomas Ortiz

Depends, the universities themselves are still in charge at the more prestigious locations and socially conservative/rural regions.

In the Midwest cities, California, Denver/Boulder Colorado, and central Eastern coast, it's debatable.

June 7, 2016 - 19:42

Jackson Robinson

making me nauseous tbh

June 7, 2016 - 19:43

Lucas Lopez

...

June 7, 2016 - 19:43

Leo Ramirez

Nah, I just like shitposting to get a rise out of you guys and to sometimes offer a different opinion when I think I'm seeing a friendly socialist getting ganged up on by tankies or militant anarchists.

June 7, 2016 - 19:43

Liam Rodriguez

...

June 7, 2016 - 19:44

Jeremiah Ortiz

a man can dream

June 7, 2016 - 19:44

Noah Harris

IF WE STAND TOGETHER
WE WILL RISE TOGETHER
BECAUSE WE ARE STRONGER TOGETHER

June 7, 2016 - 19:44

Jordan Morales

Watch what happens when he wins CA.

June 7, 2016 - 19:44

Oliver Rodriguez

It's been rigged if he doesn't win Cali with how many fucking commies live there.

June 7, 2016 - 19:45

Kayden Kelly

Well unless Northern Cali somehow counts for more votes during the primaries than they do in the main elections- but that wouldn't make sense to me.

June 7, 2016 - 19:46

Camden Sanchez

...

June 7, 2016 - 19:46

Cooper Roberts

that's a meme user. california is full of bourgeois rich liberals.

June 7, 2016 - 19:46

Wyatt Myers

...

June 7, 2016 - 19:46

James Ward

I'm pretty sure you guys call this "identity politics."

Bourgeois rich liberals almost always side with the commies unless their lives are in danger.

Besides, Bernie's main supporters are commies and bourgeois rich liberals.

June 7, 2016 - 19:47

Luis Foster

this is how far people are from understanding class politics

June 7, 2016 - 19:48

Nicholas Ramirez

Or rather their children who haven't been in the workforce*

June 7, 2016 - 19:48

Brody Kelly

its not hard its just gay lol

June 7, 2016 - 19:49

Anthony Allen

New Jersey is a mess

June 7, 2016 - 19:49

Adam Flores

we're all going to die horribly

June 7, 2016 - 19:50

Jack Bennett

How did Sanders win North Dakota?

They're all fucking oil riggers, potato farmers, and alcoholics.

June 7, 2016 - 19:50

Ryder Price

Considering that they still believe that Hillary can unite people like Obama, I think they're certifiably insane at this point.

June 7, 2016 - 19:50

Ayden Evans

class =/= identity

Uh, no.

June 7, 2016 - 19:51

Connor Brooks

Shhh… no he didn't. It's just a weird state anyway.

t. CNN

June 7, 2016 - 19:52

Ryder Morgan

Really, the problem isn't their cultural identity or even their economic class, but their ideological beliefs. They simply have no attachment to leftism beyond being "progressive" and "inclusive", rather than actually making the economy work better.

They are political hipsters.

Labor unions

June 7, 2016 - 19:53

Nicholas White

He wins almost all of the midwest/western rural states. What's surprising is that he isn't winning South Dakota.

June 7, 2016 - 19:53

Oliver Ward

She's just the candidate they have so much money invested with. That's why they keep rationalizing away her weaknesses.

June 7, 2016 - 19:54

Ryan Brooks

Depression is starting to kick in, will Sanders be speaking tonight from Vermont?

June 7, 2016 - 19:56

Angel Diaz

Have the bourgeoisie won?

What do we do?

June 7, 2016 - 19:56

Benjamin Thompson

wake me up inside

June 7, 2016 - 19:57

Nathaniel Robinson

...

June 7, 2016 - 19:58

Jace Gonzalez

Yeah, forgot there's a lot of 'em in North Dakota.

June 7, 2016 - 19:58

Carter Hernandez

I legitimately feel bad for the Bernie folks though.

It's like how we felt when Ron Paul didn't get the nominee… Or Rand Paul… Or McAfee…

June 7, 2016 - 19:59

Henry Peterson

user, they're literally all just Correct the Record shills, paid to compliment her on twitter. just ignore them.

June 7, 2016 - 19:59

Connor Mitchell

except no one had to rig the election to beat the Pauls.

June 7, 2016 - 20:00

Ethan Baker

California results now coming in

wat

June 7, 2016 - 20:00

Ryan Davis

That's a new one: implying white women are th default and women of color are a spin-off of white women. Lmao.

June 7, 2016 - 20:00

Adam Cook

future generations will curse us and we will deserve it

June 7, 2016 - 20:00

Julian Peterson

Anti-Bernie people shitposting.

Anyone have any updates on Cali, etc? I've been sick & haven't got to check yet.

June 7, 2016 - 20:00

David Hall

Again, eastern South Dakota is more populous and has more baby boomers. That's a combination where Hillary always wins.

My prediction is coming to pass . Welcome to the hell that is South Dakota politics.

June 7, 2016 - 20:01

Cooper Murphy

#ROCKTHEVOTE

June 7, 2016 - 20:01

Tyler Adams

Sure, and no one had to rig the election to beat Hillary either, right user? :^)

June 7, 2016 - 20:01

Ryder Lopez

HEIL TRUMP
PRAISE KEK

LEFTYPOL CANT COMPETE WITH MEME MAGIC
just kill yourselves lads

June 7, 2016 - 20:02

Justin Reed

White liberals are pretty damned racist after all.

June 7, 2016 - 20:02

Austin Thompson

That's crazy how accurate you were. Are you a native? I love the state's natural beauty, but it pains me half the dems evidently prefer Clinton to Sanders.

June 7, 2016 - 20:02

Alexander Brown

...

June 7, 2016 - 20:02

David Carter

an-caps please go >>>/gulag/

June 7, 2016 - 20:03

Noah Rodriguez

Fuck off.

June 7, 2016 - 20:03

Thomas Adams

I'm fiscally conservative and socially conservative, I just don't think I need to tell people how to behave when you leave it to natural selection to pick off the degenerates.

Meme images don't work when I hate my own party.

June 7, 2016 - 20:04

Connor Jenkins

Funny how our spooks aer more powerful than your real things.

PRAISE KEK

June 7, 2016 - 20:04

Nicholas Rogers

you realize the only way Donald trump can win is by beating the most unpopular politician in us history

June 7, 2016 - 20:05

Adam Richardson

And that is exactly what he is going to do lad :^)

June 7, 2016 - 20:06

Bentley James

Why are there so many Jimmy Dore worshiping faggots here?

June 7, 2016 - 20:06

Jace Powell

No one mentioned men's rights. There's not evidence of the college rape hysteria. It isn't a problem.

June 7, 2016 - 20:07

Christopher Diaz

I find the number of people voting in the primaries to be more intriguing than the votes themselves.

With the exception of Jersey, the number of voters so far is abysmal for a primary that will determine the nominee.

June 7, 2016 - 20:07

Wyatt Baker

...

June 7, 2016 - 20:07

Kevin Wilson

Those are delegates, not actual voters.

June 7, 2016 - 20:07

Hudson Reed

I wish mods would get ahold of this shitposting, I'd like to get some election information here.

Rape, idpol, no one cares.

Please stop shitting up the thread. If you want to just shitpost, this isn't the place for it. This is the election general.

June 7, 2016 - 20:07

Brody Rivera

...

June 7, 2016 - 20:08

Adrian Gutierrez

Every time there's a primary we get flooded with Trump & random shitposting. Everyone stop feeding them.

June 7, 2016 - 20:08

Levi Reyes

enjoy watching him sell out

June 7, 2016 - 20:09

Jason Rodriguez

google delusions of reference

June 7, 2016 - 20:09

Isaiah James

DAILY REMINDER THAT MINORITIES ARE THE REASON FOR HILLARY'S PRIMARY VICTORY.

THERE WILL NEVER BE SOCIALISM IN THE UNITED STATES AS LONG AS MINORITIES ARE A SIGNIFICANT VOTING BLOC

June 7, 2016 - 20:09

Aaron Anderson

...

June 7, 2016 - 20:09

Anthony Carter

enjoy your neoliberalism 2.0: now with more Orange

June 7, 2016 - 20:09

Luis Russell

...

June 7, 2016 - 20:10

Kayden Bell

what the actual fuck am I looking at

June 7, 2016 - 20:10

Camden Ortiz

whats that

June 7, 2016 - 20:10

Cooper Bell

Honestly america deserves hillary at this point.

June 7, 2016 - 20:10

Camden Jenkins

goodnight lefties

June 7, 2016 - 20:11

Mason Bell

Trump literally just refused 200 million dollars
archive.is/GnMse

GET FUCKED GOY

June 7, 2016 - 20:11

Jaxson Rivera

How do you feel about coops?

We went allot farther at least, and it's not so much about Bernie, but the midterms.

It's also a thing called stupidity.

shush, they are closer to the mark then polniggers typically are, and they aren't as spooked.

June 7, 2016 - 20:11

Alexander Bennett

They count early votes first. Early votes are olds, olds like Clinton.

June 7, 2016 - 20:11

Christian Bailey

Pretty sure that 65,000 figure is voters, not delegates user.

June 7, 2016 - 20:11

Matthew Rivera

despite backtracking on Israel, the TPP, Libya, Muslims, wages and much more

June 7, 2016 - 20:12

Brayden Bailey

regardless your right, Trump can't sell out because he never had any principles to begin with.

June 7, 2016 - 20:12

Wyatt Gomez

It's not, New Mexico has more than 130,000 voters.

June 7, 2016 - 20:13

Jackson Lee

You're*

June 7, 2016 - 20:13

Nicholas Brooks

No problems with 'em in theory.

Early votes are lazy fucks and are more easily rigged.

June 7, 2016 - 20:14

Easton Parker

tfw Bernie calls for armed class struggle and uses war chest to buy weapons for an armed proletarian revolution

June 7, 2016 - 20:14

Leo Sanders

I like how you just have a folder full of dozens of different mutant freak babies.

June 7, 2016 - 20:14

Samuel Turner

that's the pig thing right?

June 7, 2016 - 20:15

Dominic White

OH, that's what you mean. We get the "wow only 60 people voted in __" ever voting day. ND is one of the least populated states and also among the most conservative. As far as I'm concerned, 130,000 North Dakotans showing up to vote democrat out of 750,000 (most of which are republicans) is awesome.

June 7, 2016 - 20:15

Camden Ross

youtube.com/watch?v=_rcmeMxxGYw

RIP Bernie

June 7, 2016 - 20:15

Nathan Clark

lol haha thats a good 1 ,y

June 7, 2016 - 20:15

Zachary Hughes

Including that debate that was supposed to be tonight. Said he would, then he said he'd only do it if he raised $10 million for charity. Then when people stepped forward and offered 3x that amount, he simply backed out and said it would be "inappropriate" to have the debate.

June 7, 2016 - 20:16

Dylan Gomez

I don't think that's right, but I dunno. My point still stands.

June 7, 2016 - 20:16

Adrian Lewis

holy shit my sides

June 7, 2016 - 20:16

Ethan Rogers

...

June 7, 2016 - 20:16

Camden Nguyen

i hope you're joking or exaggerating

i often have to defend myself when arguing in favor in participating in parliamentarism to some extend
and then, there's you
what the fuck are you even saying? unless there is a movement on the streets (organized by the party) that is a revolutionary threat there isn't even a question about porky ever losing anything.

June 7, 2016 - 20:17

Kayden Jones

internal shitposting is far more cancerous that our occasional visitors. Ancap poster was minding his own business till you faggots started treading on him.
No censorship on my Holla Forums

June 7, 2016 - 20:17

Jacob Cook

Source on this?

June 7, 2016 - 20:18

Charles Hernandez

who up?

June 7, 2016 - 20:19

Levi Ortiz

theintercept.com/2016/06/07/perfect-end-to-democratic-primary-anonymous-super-delegates-declare-winner-through-media/

Topkek

June 7, 2016 - 20:19

Brandon Turner

Not at all. It's usually low key & friendly in this thread. When primaries come around we get flooded with outsiders derailing.

I'm just wanting some info on the election here; that's all.

June 7, 2016 - 20:19

Gavin Scott

Their literally a few steps away from full on socialism. ;^)

June 7, 2016 - 20:20

Sebastian Brooks

California results ?? anyone ?

June 7, 2016 - 20:20

William Martin

Someone shoop Bernie's face over Rei

June 7, 2016 - 20:20

William Richardson

take a guess fucko

June 7, 2016 - 20:20

Angel Moore

I believe it comes from Associate Professor Robert Pape of the University of Chicago's book "Dying to Win," which probably has better citations than the internet.

I could be wrong though.

June 7, 2016 - 20:21

John Wright

Not even my election but i'm now contemplating suicide. I thought we had a hope at least in NA. I guess we'll all die as neoliberals.

FML.

June 7, 2016 - 20:21

Christian Williams

lol

June 7, 2016 - 20:22

Alexander Green

It could happen.

June 7, 2016 - 20:22

Carson Anderson

real commie hours. click like.

June 7, 2016 - 20:22

Elijah Nguyen

...

June 7, 2016 - 20:24

Nicholas Hall

Please, we need this to happen so much.

June 7, 2016 - 20:25

Jonathan Powell

This shouldn't be surprising at all, especially knowing what they've done to south america and the middle east.

June 7, 2016 - 20:25

Chase Peterson

It already happened once in Yugoslavia.

June 7, 2016 - 20:25

Jeremiah Hughes

I wouldn't be surprised to be honest.

June 7, 2016 - 20:26

Andrew Morgan

Does Hillary have any guarantees of party stability after her victory?

June 7, 2016 - 20:26

Grayson Turner

Yeah. East River went to Hillary because they're more liberal than West River, and by liberal I mean "liberal conservative".

Still, Bernie did better than Obama did in 2008. Obama only won 45% of the state compared to Sanders 48%.

June 7, 2016 - 20:26

Chase Reed

I want off this ride.

June 7, 2016 - 20:27

Hudson Hernandez

Lets stop saying: "Sanders to lay off campaign staff" and start saying "Sanders to purge half his party"

June 7, 2016 - 20:27

Austin Perry

Absolutely not, but the crazy thing is DNC insiders are convinced she does.
Philly convention is going to be wild.

June 7, 2016 - 20:27

Ryder Bennett

Let them gloat, they need the warmth for the long cold years to come when 51% of the country's population effortlessly sweeps Shillary into the Presidency.

June 7, 2016 - 20:27

Ian Adams

nigga what

June 7, 2016 - 20:28

Jayden Brooks

Only if we let her. We need to raise hell during the convention and show everybody that Bernie rules the Democrats.

June 7, 2016 - 20:28

Eli Rivera

Mate, what do you think WWII was? IBM built the computers used in the concentration camps.

June 7, 2016 - 20:28

Ayden Sanchez

He's a man of strategy.

June 7, 2016 - 20:29

Anthony Morales

Judging from my Bernie friends, no, she does not.

Most of the younger Bernie fans have all agreed to vote Jill Stein this election if he doesn't get the nominee since to them it's a sign of blatant rigging.

Honestly the best thing the Dems could do if they want Shillary to win is let it go to a contested national convention to try and dispel rumors of rigging.

June 7, 2016 - 20:29

Michael Young

california
pls
pls stop

June 7, 2016 - 20:30

Jayden Ramirez

They've deluded themselves into thinking Sanders can control what he has created. They're going to find out the hard way that he's just the messenger of greater change.

June 7, 2016 - 20:31

Kevin Nelson

.>dispel rumors of rigging
They would literally need that flashy thing from MIB.

June 7, 2016 - 20:31

Chase Perry

I said try.

June 7, 2016 - 20:32

Elijah Kelly

Sacramento: establishment
Fresno: conservative
Orange County: bourgoisie
San Diego: mostly undocumented immigrants who can't vote
Don't panic just yet, LA is the biggest population center. SF hasn't come in either.

June 7, 2016 - 20:32

Jack Stewart

Bernie voters aren't all union members though.

Won't the unions come out under Hillary to try and secure whatever leftovers she inevitably offers them?

June 7, 2016 - 20:33

Ethan Howard

I got my affiliation changed to Republican in front of my eyes.
Try to unrigg that

June 7, 2016 - 20:33

Aaron Howard

youtube.com/watch?v=wCF3ywukQYA

June 7, 2016 - 20:34

Justin Richardson

Doom Sanders when?
He Tried to warn them.

June 7, 2016 - 20:34

Joshua Parker

Trump is pretty anti-competition- er… I mean pro-union as well.

Bernie is more pro-union than Shillary by a long shot. If it came down to Trump and Shillary, I'd see the service unions turning to Trump while the skilled labor unions would probably turn to Shillary.

June 7, 2016 - 20:34

Wyatt Taylor

At least Humboldt county seems nice. Only county where he's at over 60% and for once it doesn't look like a super rural one. No idea what's there, but at least I don't have to write off California entirely.

June 7, 2016 - 20:35

Robert Perez

More truth Trump is establishment. I swear, one of those elites is paying guys like Milo to ensure there will be no class change EI a Trumpepe presidency.

June 7, 2016 - 20:35

Isaiah Walker

Have you told social media/alternative news websites?

They'd love to hear it. Even Breitbart would love to get on that shit probably.

June 7, 2016 - 20:36

Kevin Bell

Clearly they saw the hatred of women in your eyes and decided to put you in your place.

But remember to vote Democrat in the general election though, m'kay?

June 7, 2016 - 20:36

Grayson Smith

Yes they clearly have a lot of power in universities around the country. Have you been living under a rock? It's entirely within academic feminists' power to manipulate statistics and influence university administrations to further thier agenda. I can't believe you'd even ask that question.

June 7, 2016 - 20:36

Jaxson Murphy

Er, I mean service unions as in steel and electrical and skill labor as in engineers and shit.*

June 7, 2016 - 20:36

Luis Martin

post yfw right now Holla Forums

June 7, 2016 - 20:38

Eli Lee

Unions are only anti-competition as long as we have capitalists leeching off of our backs.
That's the point.

June 7, 2016 - 20:38

Xavier Sanchez

How…..? How could this happen ? This. this has to be rigged, right? There's just…there's no way . I saw the campaigns he all through cali, hyuuge stadiums filled to the brim, thousands upon thousands of Bernie voters…. how can he lose by that large a margin ? if it were 48 - 52 or soemthign to that effect I could believe, but this?

June 7, 2016 - 20:38

Chase Murphy

...

June 7, 2016 - 20:39

Camden Rivera

GOT A REFERENDUM IN 15 DAYS LADS

June 7, 2016 - 20:39

Daniel Long

...

June 7, 2016 - 20:40

Dominic Powell

Well, been fun speculating with you Holla Forums, gonna go play some New Vegas for a couple hours before passing out.

Pic related.

June 7, 2016 - 20:40

Wyatt Cruz

...

June 7, 2016 - 20:40

Alexander Adams

8% reporting. Clinton gets the early votes from old people & they're counted first.

June 7, 2016 - 20:40

Jose Ward

looks like a bernie version of pic related is in order

June 7, 2016 - 20:41

Cooper Kelly

DO NOT GIVE IN
I know some of us are scared and thinking we are losing, but it is not over! The next stage is to fight every inch! We should double down on campaigning and supporting Bernie! We should be getting those u pledged delegates to commit to Bernie! And if all else fails we barge into the convention and show that we want to be heard!
NEVER GIVE UP
NEVER GIVE IN
LET THE ESTABLISHMENT FEEL THE BERN!

June 7, 2016 - 20:41

Charles Hall

...

June 7, 2016 - 20:41

Bentley Campbell

...

June 7, 2016 - 20:41

Julian Mitchell

Conservatives claim that only young hipsters vote by mail.

Lefties claim that only old people vote by mail.

Which is it, damn it?

June 7, 2016 - 20:42

Joshua Richardson

...

June 7, 2016 - 20:42

Christopher Green

...

June 7, 2016 - 20:42

Tyler Howard

...

June 7, 2016 - 20:42

Noah Mitchell

...

June 7, 2016 - 20:42

Caleb Thompson

What do i tell her?

June 7, 2016 - 20:43

James Adams

I've literally never heard this.

What young person would do a paper ballot over an electronic one? We're much more of procrastinators as well.

June 7, 2016 - 20:43

Carson Evans

Tell her you're not going to vote because you shouldnt be expected to endorse a candidate you dont support.

that, any you shouldn't vote anyways

June 7, 2016 - 20:44

Nathan Green

How the fuck could a leftist man find a woman even a little attractive when she reeks so much of vapid consumerism?

June 7, 2016 - 20:44

Xavier Sanders

Tell her you'll vote for Jill Sein to get the greens 5% and dismantle the bourgeois, two-party system for the greater good.

June 7, 2016 - 20:44

Ethan Miller

>strawpoll.me/10427748
Need some life advice now that even a social democracy is impossible

June 7, 2016 - 20:45

Camden Walker

pls die my good niGGa

June 7, 2016 - 20:45

Easton Cox

And I should've said "usually" from old people. There's surely come exceptions, like myself. 29 & out of the country, so obviously I had to vote by mail.

June 7, 2016 - 20:46

Jackson Phillips

I'm not very young & also not a hipster.

June 7, 2016 - 20:46

Joseph Flores

Los Angeles here. I'm as surprised as you are. I have never, ever seen so much as a Hillary sign out here. When I went out canvassing, only 1 house out of 70 was a Hillary household. I've seen Bernie bumper stickers every day, but Hillary bumper stickers? Just two… and they were on the same car today at the polling place. I only know one Hillary supporter, and he isn't even very close to me. How could this happen? We were supposed to be the vanguard of the American working class…

June 7, 2016 - 20:47

Alexander Smith

I am unsure they would ever want something even resembling dissidence to their lord Trump.

Gunna watch the world burn.

tbh some lefties are socially conservative, so, there's that.

June 7, 2016 - 20:48

William Nguyen

Our major chance to declasscuck a portion of america just died. These people are all going to go over to hillary for fear of trump or are going to caste an angry proteste vote for Stein and then forget about it. Us and others like Socialist Alternative are too small and insignificant to scoop up a good number of them.

I would rather be dead right now tbhq família.

June 7, 2016 - 20:48

Luis Russell

Fucking same, dude. Everything you just said.

June 7, 2016 - 20:48

Ian Walker

Don't fear lads, don't give up. The movement lives on. It's what Bernie has wanted all along.

June 7, 2016 - 20:49

Oliver Hill

id rather be dead every day comrade. luckily the end is inevitable

June 7, 2016 - 20:49

Evan Kelly

To this day I have literally never met even one Hillary supporter. Not a single one. I've asked my friends if they know any Hillary voters and they don't know any either and are equally mystified. How in the hell is she winning by such an enormous margin?

June 7, 2016 - 20:49

Julian Cruz

...

June 7, 2016 - 20:49

Dominic Reyes

It is clear not every vote is a human vote. Even if we supposed its all the extremely old who are forgotten but manage to vote, it would not account for such numbers as we are seeing. The only answer is that something is afoot.

June 7, 2016 - 20:49

Angel Morris

...

June 7, 2016 - 20:50

Parker Perry

I am not big with social media.
Also I am sure I am not the only one this happened. They already spin these claims as conspiracy theories, so even if I did, I'd sound like a whackjob.

June 7, 2016 - 20:51

Jonathan Sanchez

Guys.

It's not a democracy, remember.
The ballots are trash.
It goes straight into the memory hole.

Bernie must run as a 3rd party candidate and make the Democratic party crash with no survivors.

June 7, 2016 - 20:51

Juan Collins

you know you can still try and radicalize people outside of electoral politics right?
whatever happened to educate, agitate, and organize? If Sanders people go over to team Hillary than we should try and stop them, otherwise this entire movement becomes pointless.

June 7, 2016 - 20:51

Josiah Williams

Gee it sure is a shame there's no exit polls in California. I wonder whose bright idea that was.

June 7, 2016 - 20:51

Thomas Morris

We're mostly young and mostly white, as are our friends and communities, Bernie's strongest demographics

June 7, 2016 - 20:52

Jeremiah Martinez

This, all the time this.

It might crash regardless.

June 7, 2016 - 20:54

Luis Ward

What do i do now

June 7, 2016 - 20:55

Nicholas Murphy

The democratic party is going to crash sooner rather than later. Even if Sanders doesn't run third party enough people are pissed off at the democratic party that they're basically digging their own grave right now.

June 7, 2016 - 20:55

Angel Wilson

...

June 7, 2016 - 20:56

Nolan Roberts

You vote. For someone who actually represents your interests.

June 7, 2016 - 20:56

Christian Foster

Young, yes, but not white. I'm latino, and like I said everyone I know (mostly latinos) is a Bernie supporter. Even the older folks. The only one who isn't is a coworker who's 18-years-old and white. This doesn't make any fucking sense.

June 7, 2016 - 20:56

Luke Garcia

Simply because they're more populous.

And this "young, white" meme is dead already.

June 7, 2016 - 20:56

Jacob Taylor

By that logic, not voting Trump would be the same thing as voting for Hillary?

June 7, 2016 - 20:57

Hunter Martinez

embarassing

June 7, 2016 - 20:57

Sebastian Davis

reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4n24xz/ca_mt_nj_nd_nm_sd_results_mega_thread/d40fmzw

hello hope

June 7, 2016 - 20:57

Grayson Nelson

Cali on Google was reporting at 8% about 30 mins ago, not it's a 5% for some reason.

June 7, 2016 - 20:58

James Miller

rate my shit meme

June 7, 2016 - 20:58

Julian Campbell

at this point you have to ask why are so many Hillary supporters afraid of Trump when the current administration has basically been doing the exact same thing as what he promises to do but on a smaller scale.
Zizek was right, the only difference between Trump and the other politicians is that Trump using different language.

June 7, 2016 - 20:58

Eli Russell

Why do you give me hope, the worst curse of them all?!

June 7, 2016 - 20:58

Thomas White

Alright, but I'd like to see more uplifting ones.

June 7, 2016 - 20:59

Jace Ortiz

At least the greens will probably get 5%

June 7, 2016 - 20:59

Landon Jenkins

dank/10

If the greens do well this election we'll have a better shot at topping the establishment. I've already been trying to talk to Bernie supporters IRL about Jill Stein and it seems to be working.

June 7, 2016 - 21:01

Jackson Stewart

If he's not within 5% by 50% reporting then its over. fml

June 7, 2016 - 21:01

Adrian Long

BERNIE RUN AS AN INDEPENDENT! DNC FUCKED YOU OVER; FUCK THEM RIGHT BACK!

June 7, 2016 - 21:01

James Perry

What do i say

June 7, 2016 - 21:02

Jose Edwards

Guardian reporting link. I'm surprised this hasn't been posted yet.

theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2016/jun/07/live-primary-results-new-jersey-california

I'm literally bedridden at the moment(severe food poisoning for about 4 days now) but want to help inform as much as possible right now.

Thanks for link.

June 7, 2016 - 21:02

Ethan Rivera

Be le super edgemaster and vote Trump out of spite if you hate the bitch

June 7, 2016 - 21:03

Xavier Brooks

Stien or Trump.

June 7, 2016 - 21:04

Ryder Davis

RAPE HER

June 7, 2016 - 21:04

Christopher Hall

If you want me to give your shitty candidate support then work to implement a sane runoff voting system already that no longer traps people into picking the best of two evils.

June 7, 2016 - 21:05

Blake Bennett

Still, vote for who you feel is best. Even if it is writing Bernie in. America is fucked, anyway, and most people just don't vote at all.
If Bernie ran third party, I honestly think that all three candidates have enough support behind each of them, that it would make a viable third party, for the future, as well. There will definitely be a third party formed after all of this. There has to be after so many people leaving both parties, but the DNC in particular.

June 7, 2016 - 21:05

Camden Peterson

If Trump wins it's Hillary's fault for not appealing to my interests.

June 7, 2016 - 21:06

Noah Martinez

You don't have to say anything. Who you vote for is your business alone.

June 7, 2016 - 21:07

Michael Rivera

Do you have any solutions for how to try to stop them, though?

June 7, 2016 - 21:07

William Nguyen

>reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4n21q2/the_ap_literally_rounded_up_superdelegates_to/
wew laddos

June 7, 2016 - 21:07

Carson Phillips

Holy fuck

GREEN PARTY OFFERING TO COLLAB WITH BERNIE AS INDEPENDENT

twitter.com/DrJillStein/status/740367245839192066

June 7, 2016 - 21:08

Matthew Ramirez

We've known about this for a while, user.

June 7, 2016 - 21:09

David Howard

FUGG

June 7, 2016 - 21:10

Asher Torres

>twitter.com/willrahn/status/740393173097316352/photo/1
IT BEGINS

June 7, 2016 - 21:11

Adam Jenkins

...

June 7, 2016 - 21:11

Jack Morgan

No he didn't

June 7, 2016 - 21:11

Jason Diaz

No he just congratulated her for winning NJ

June 7, 2016 - 21:11

Blake Moore

I'd only vote Green if Jill wasn't running.

Her stances on energy and homeopathic medicine are cringeworthy.

June 7, 2016 - 21:12

Aaron Thomas

The same way anybody recruits people for a political campaign. Talk to people. Organize. Convince your local Berniebros to #FeeltheStein.
Fuck, i'm not saying that Holla Forums is going to co-opt the whole election, but I don't think we should just be defeatists and let the Sanders movement disappear.

June 7, 2016 - 21:12

Landon Barnes

...

June 7, 2016 - 21:12

James Sanders

Tell her the obvious, that they're one and the same.

June 7, 2016 - 21:12

Sebastian Ross

LA is still listed as "initial results" for me, which I think is just mail in ballots.

June 7, 2016 - 21:13

Jacob Bell

They are socialism, period. Leninists are fags.

June 7, 2016 - 21:13

Juan Cooper

Fuck it.

I WOULD TAKE MANDATORY FAITH HEALING REPLACING ALL HOSPITALS IF IT MEANT THAT HILLARY OR TRUMP DOESN'T GET INTO OFFICE!

June 7, 2016 - 21:14

William Cruz

Impossible-tier
Most likely to happen
He just endorses hillary and fades away into obscurity and disgust.

How will we remember Bernie "The Slick Entryst" Sanders now that the ride is over leftypol?

June 7, 2016 - 21:14

Lincoln Fisher

Crowdfund a statue of him in the middle of NYC.

June 7, 2016 - 21:15

Nicholas Anderson

We'll remember him with a Brand New Congress

June 7, 2016 - 21:15

Kayden Scott

He becomes our Ron Paul.
a man who was condemned by the people he tried to save.

June 7, 2016 - 21:16

Wyatt Clark

Nah.
I bet he has more tricks up his sleeves.

June 7, 2016 - 21:16

Logan Cruz

What do you mean by her stances on energy?

And the homeopathic medicine thing with the Green Party is greatly misunderstood. In the past they pandered to that crowd to get votes, they don't anymore, but they just don't denounce that crowd anymore. Steins stance on homeopathic crap has been neutral/nothing. She doesn't have any policy regarding it.

June 7, 2016 - 21:16

James Richardson

Th-thanks Montana

June 7, 2016 - 21:18

Connor Fisher

...

June 7, 2016 - 21:18

Luis Myers

But user, don't you know that saying "hey lets have independent third parties test vaccines to ensure their safety" is slang for "we're going to take away your vaccines and force you to treat polio with organic kale chips"?

June 7, 2016 - 21:20

Aiden Williams

Get the fuck outta here, defeatist.

June 7, 2016 - 21:20

Colton Sanders

Except that Ron Paul is fucking scum who thinks that freedom is unrestrained capitalism.

June 7, 2016 - 21:21

Jason Clark

That's a codeword for nukes. Also expect shilling for GM crops.

June 7, 2016 - 21:21

Cameron Cook

My mom is such a porky. She voted for Clinton because

What music are you guys blasting to drown your sorrows?

June 7, 2016 - 21:21

Jacob Cruz

...

June 7, 2016 - 21:21

Cooper Price

Also, Ron Paul never saw much popularity.

June 7, 2016 - 21:22

Jack Brown

Don't give up!

Lets get something going over in the DNC Convention Thread!

>8ch.net/leftypol/res/717539.html

make this a convention the people will never forget leftypol!

This is the time to prepare and get everything in place.

June 7, 2016 - 21:22

Nolan Robinson

youtube.com/watch?v=dtSxNZeXlKg

June 7, 2016 - 21:22

Carson Jackson

I guess Stein is just fucking chopped liver, huh?

She's based

June 7, 2016 - 21:23

Cooper Garcia

Can you link me her policy on that?

June 7, 2016 - 21:24

Luke Allen

She is your mom how could not you not convince her? Are you hiding your power level or something.
youtube.com/watch?v=HhZaHf8RP6g

June 7, 2016 - 21:24

Landon Evans

because muh two party system is more important

June 7, 2016 - 21:24

Luke Turner

youtube.com/watch?v=2FMr61LyEV0

June 7, 2016 - 21:24

Liam Brown

#ImWithHer

June 7, 2016 - 21:25

Leo Lee

Yeah, comparing Sanders to Paul is like comparing him to Nader. There is no comparison; we have a real, major candidate.

June 7, 2016 - 21:27

Jordan Powell

Hey guys, non-american here. Did Bernie lose California yet?

June 7, 2016 - 21:27

John Myers

The Green's embrace of affirmative action is seriously off putting. I'm still voting for them and will probably vote for them in most elections, presidential and otherwise from now on, but they may want to change their mandatory "must have womyn" stance if they want to increase their male membership.

June 7, 2016 - 21:28

Adam Allen

youtube.com/watch?v=Q46r6cOzTsU

The newest one.

June 7, 2016 - 21:29

Parker Baker

My mom voted for her as well. Basically Clinton nostalgia from the 90s & she believe the "witch-hunt" on her. As well as "Well, I think they're going after Hilary more because she's the biggest threat to republicans".

Anyway, here's what I'm listening to.
youtube.com/watch?v=wCF3ywukQYA

June 7, 2016 - 21:29

Colton Brooks

I dunno, man, her website doesn't even mention the wage gap. It's pretty low idpol.

June 7, 2016 - 21:30

Isaiah Richardson

Oh for sure. See you there, comr8. This movement is big & we won't let it go away. It's actually getting stronger, but the media of course is trying everything in their power to silence it, still.

June 7, 2016 - 21:30

Thomas Jones

Odd, my mom voted for Bernie and she's a boomer.

June 7, 2016 - 21:30

Hunter Adams

People call them antivax and anti science when they are literally calling for more research, and regarding HIV, more vaccines.
gp.org/social_justice/#sjHealthCare

That's from the official Green party stance; Jill's platform has nothing on them, but on leddit ama's she's said said she simply doesn't want pharma companies to be the ones in charge of testing their own drugs/vaccines, and does a little bit of "lets just test alternative medicine" pandering to that crowd.

Based on her ama's, she's much more reasonable on the fringe issues than the official party platform.

June 7, 2016 - 21:33

Cooper Bailey

Yes but when you look at their policy it's actually pretty solid.

It's all about pros and cons–the affirmative action thing is contained in tweets and tweets only. Not in their policy; they just do that to pander to hippies

June 7, 2016 - 21:33

James Ross

They still have to expoit each other within capitalism, don't they?

June 7, 2016 - 21:34

Charles Price

...

June 7, 2016 - 21:37

Alexander Butler

This, even Sanders spews the wage gap spiel, complete with damning "for equal work" line.

That's no more exploitative than competition between suitors for marriage, different political parties at the polls, or even different product proposals inside the same company right now.

June 7, 2016 - 21:37

Nathan Cooper

Can never go wrong with Daft Punk.

June 7, 2016 - 21:38

Robert Morgan

Even their official policy is a little over the top. Not enough for me to avoid voting for them, I overwhelmingly agree with them, but their flat out in favor of reparations. I'm not particularly fond of people today having to pay reparations for things they didn't do to people they never harmed. Poor white people don't owe a thing to poor people of any other race, and poor non white people shouldn't get special benefits over poor whites because of their skin color.

June 7, 2016 - 21:39

Joseph Watson

This for tonight.
youtube.com/watch?v=u9Dg-g7t2l4

This on the way to Philadelphia.
youtube.com/watch?v=YV4oYkIeGJc

June 7, 2016 - 21:41

Elijah Turner

The ones who are saying they are anti-science are just spouting ridiculous propaganda. And some of this also comes from the reddit science circlejerk crowd that never read anything other than headlines.

If they actually bothered to have looked at the policies directly, they would see that they are in fact sane, and not some anti-gmo, anti-gluton, and anti-vaccine cult.

The anti-science meme needs to stop

June 7, 2016 - 21:41

Lucas Butler

I think reparations are good for hijacking. Like we shift it from giving money to blacks to proles taking back what was stolen by the bourgeois.

Anyways this primary sucks and my gf is sleeping so I'll sniff her panties and cry myself to sleep.

June 7, 2016 - 21:44

Caleb Phillips

Discovery is still my go-to happy album.
>

June 7, 2016 - 21:45

Aaron Flores

Exactly. Look at older GP platforms, a lot of these fluff issues have shifted in and out over the decades.

June 7, 2016 - 21:49

Sebastian Hall

A true socialist would share pictures.

June 7, 2016 - 21:49

Lincoln Nelson

Sorry to make you uncomfortable. I'm just sick & appreciated a nice song atm.

June 7, 2016 - 21:50

Xavier Murphy

Also doped up on pain meds, lmao

June 7, 2016 - 21:51

Levi Davis

I haven't heard about the reparation thing. Is that directly in their policy?

Of course people should not have to pay for crimes they didn't do. Slavery was a long fucking time ago, and going back to the past on this matter does no favors, and doing this could result in even more racial tension.

Reparation just doesn't make much sense to me. I'm mixed, Sweedish and Caribbean. My ancestors on one side were slaves. I don't want, in fact i think it would be simply a bad idea to receive money from innocent people because of race. It's fucking stupid.

June 7, 2016 - 21:52

Wyatt Green

I think Jill and Gary Johnson (of the libertarian party) agreed to a debate. Anyone know when it's on? Jill has been trying to get into debates for years and has even been arrested for trying to break into a debate, lol

June 7, 2016 - 21:54

Noah Allen

Watch the last bit of this; Bernie's asked about it. He gives a great answer.

June 7, 2016 - 21:54

Isaac Walker

I know, they already removed their reference to homeopathy (or rather, have announced that they will change it at their convention). My biggest concern with them isn't the few issues they have that I disagree with them on, but rather that the greens have such a negative reputation based on lies about their stances on vaccines and medicine in general that they won't be able to get their name out more even if they clearly state in their platform on those issues that they're fully in favor of conventional medicine that is tested by unbiased third parties.

June 7, 2016 - 21:55

Liam Robinson

Who the fuck voted for Clinton? In California everyone I know from all income levels in 3 parts of the state supported Bernie, everyone my grandma knows is Trump of Bernie, my mom and dad, Bernie, me, Bernie, my friends, Bernie, my mom's school in the barrio, Bernie, my middle class suburb, Bernie, my gf's mixed incone area, Bernie, Bernie outdrew her 4:1 at least, everywhere. Bernie had more canvassers, more energy, more everything.

This shit's fucking rigged

June 7, 2016 - 21:55

Brayden King

Great post by S4P mod. Well buckos, let's just hope for indictment.
reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4n328a/shed_no_tears_hold_your_head_high_be_proud_of/

June 7, 2016 - 21:56

Jace Sanchez

Have another
youtube.com/watch?v=X4fa44_sq2E

June 7, 2016 - 21:59

Jordan Evans

Gary Johnson is polling incredibly well for a third party, often at or just above 10%. They need to be pulling at above 15% to get in the debates. Some people say that's a great thing for all third parties. I'm more of the view that the lolberts are just a great way of furthering the illusion that we have a choice. "Hey America, tired of having to choose between two corporate right wing parties? Well you're in luck because we have a classcucked right wing third party for you to vote for!" So some people will vote for them thinking that they're voting for change when all they're voting for is destruction of our already pathetic social safety net and a 0% corporate income tax.

June 7, 2016 - 21:59

Ryan Roberts

So now that we got Clinton who's next on the list lads? going all out in Syria? maybe Iran? or are we going for Russia and China already?

June 7, 2016 - 21:59

Austin Harris

can we just kill everyone running and try again guys? i mean holy fuck these next four years looks like shit from here on out.

June 7, 2016 - 22:01

Owen Adams

Do we know how well the Greens are polling?

My guess is Iran. Shillary was already agains the nuclear deal and she is super pro Israel, plus the Clinton foundation has close ties to the Saudis.

June 7, 2016 - 22:01

Jack Harris

Iran and then the next of the middle east for the saudis.

June 7, 2016 - 22:05

Logan Walker

And now, the real moment of truth:

Will Bernie keep fighting for us, his supporters? Or will he play the part of the sheepdog, accept a nominal concession here and there, and leave us to the wolves?

Hearing about this meeting with Obama sorely disappoints me.

June 7, 2016 - 22:05

Levi Howard

The media rigged it with yesterday's announcement. The media no longer reports on reality. It creates reality.

The evidence suggests that this type of announcement would heavily favour Clinton:
people.hss.caltech.edu/~lyariv/papers/CostlyParticipation.pdf

And that's before taking into account that it would affect only day-of voting, not early voting, where Clinton typically has an insurmountable lead.

June 7, 2016 - 22:07

Nathaniel Gonzalez

Literally old as fuck news.

June 7, 2016 - 22:08

Justin Reed

The most recent 4 way poll is
Hilldog: 39
Donald: 40
Gary: 9
Jill: 4

Which is pretty good for her given that she got 0.3% of the vote last year and has had no national media coverage, while Gary Johnson has constantly been on national television.
If Gary Johnson actually does end up in the debates, he'll fail miserably there. Once people actually hear him say that he wants to abolish the minimum wage and destroy the social safety net, he'll vanish.

June 7, 2016 - 22:08

Lincoln Cruz

Thanks, user.

Discovery is really one of a kind.

June 7, 2016 - 22:13

Ryan Evans

No. I voted for Sanders for two reasons.
(1) His politics emphasized class lines and correctly pointed out the importance of class in truly progressive politics. Hillary continues the predominant liberal ideology today which engages in the culturalization of politics, obfuscating class issues and emphasizing identity politics.
(2) Perhaps Zizek has a point with his call to push for "impossible points" in the short run. If there was ever an "impossible point" in the American system, it's to do away with Super PACs in politics. Sanders will fight for this, Hillary will not.

As for Hill v Trump, it isn't obvious what progressive measure Hillary will actually implement given the fact that she's a complete phony individual. Similarly, it isn't obvious what damage Trump can cause given how much he flip flops and how much obstruction he might face in the Congress. Practically speaking, the difference between a Hillary or a Trump presidency, as far as progressive policy goes, is likely much less severe than most people believe. Both benefit the ruling classes, Hillary would likely just cheerlead progressive causes when she needs ratings.

June 7, 2016 - 22:14

Gavin Rivera

This election is playing very similarly to the recent elections in my country. If everything keeps going that way, Clinton will barely win against Donald duck and Sanders will end up supporting Clinton and shill about how horrible the prospect of an autocratic government is.

June 7, 2016 - 22:15

Carter Morales

What a world we live in

June 7, 2016 - 22:16

Gabriel Perez

>mfw i fucking know that there liberals slimy enough to support a war just because a strong womyn is calling for it.

June 7, 2016 - 22:19

Levi Martinez

rip

June 7, 2016 - 22:19

Brody Parker

No, and no.

Without conceding a space to Gregorio "My ego is the priority" Santos and Vladimir "What the fuck is elegibility" Cerrón, I didnt bet all my hopes on Mendoza.

At most, I saw her a being convenient in strategical grounds, but I wasnt a big fan of her. I voted for her and voted for nleashed Porky, mostly, because the peruvian left needs time to un-fuck up itself (nevermind Arana playing The Big Leader and shitting on strategy).

June 7, 2016 - 22:22

Caleb Baker

...

June 7, 2016 - 22:24

Austin Ross

No why would any leftist do something that despicable? That bllod won't be on my hands. The only reason I'll be going out on voting day will to be vote for unverisal health care in my state. I guess I'll through in a protest vote for Jill too.

June 7, 2016 - 22:28

David Harris

How did things get this bad?

June 7, 2016 - 22:28

Cooper Rivera

I have to wonder if these bourg feminists advocating for Hillary would consider Margaret Thatcher to be a feminist icon for "breaking the glass ceiling".

June 7, 2016 - 22:30

Aiden Miller

everyone has passively accepted neoliberalism as the end of history so now we're forced to operate in a world where any left-wing position is considered unrealistic and crazy by default.

June 7, 2016 - 22:30

Adam Thomas

Hey guys.
I know it sucks, but encourage Sanders to accept VP if she's not indicted between now and the convention and superdelegates don't switch unexpectedly.
Why? Because if she gets Nixon'd, there's no better Ford we can hope for. Besides that, Bernie can still cause yooj change as VP. Think of it as voting for Bernie in a different position, not voting for Clinton.

June 7, 2016 - 22:31

Ethan Stewart

No, she was just a Man With Boobs. She acted like a man in every way. A Real Woman still can't break through the glass ceiling without sacrificing what makes her a woman and becoming a Man With Boobs.

I'm not joking, this is a real response I got from one of these people.

June 7, 2016 - 22:32

Josiah Lopez

Hillary hates bernie too much at this point

June 7, 2016 - 22:32

Jayden Cooper

t. Clinton online campaign staff.

June 7, 2016 - 22:32

Wyatt Perez

I'm not voting for Clinton, no matter who her VP is. I'd just consider it selling out if he runs with her.

June 7, 2016 - 22:32

Tyler Fisher

Sounds like they're implying that there are inherent roles/personality traits that a woman has to have in order to be a real woman. Pretty sexist tbh fam.

June 7, 2016 - 22:33

Andrew Reyes

Hillary Clinton isn't getting indicted, if she was the Obama administration would be panicking right now.

June 7, 2016 - 22:33

Hunter Hernandez

Just like the argument against Warren being Bernie's VP, he'd be more influential by staying in Congress. What does the VP do really, anyway? Just there to be the replacement?

June 7, 2016 - 22:34

Ayden Smith

It was either him or the daughter of Fujimori.

Literally choosing between Porky Unleashed (PPK) or Porky Mafia (Fujimori). Being against the rope, Mendoza and the institutional left voted for PPK, in order to have time to organize themselves. With Fujimori, I would be shot down in the first week.

Neverless, is right. Fujimori fucked up peruvian politics so much that classcuking became the norm.

June 7, 2016 - 22:34

Camden Robinson

Why are Hillary supporters so fucking vile? Not just because of their policy views and the candidate they support, they're just fucking mean people.

June 7, 2016 - 22:34

Christian Gray

No shit. All of the femidpolers want to rigidly enforce the gender roles of men = oppressors, women = victims.

June 7, 2016 - 22:34

Jaxson Russell

Who says they're not? They should be.

June 7, 2016 - 22:35

Jack Reed

I for one would hope Bernie stands with us instead of with the Party.

Would we really know if they were panicking?

June 7, 2016 - 22:36

Josiah Jones

Dude, think about it. What's better for the long run for the country? "Absolute madman" Trump or "stay-the-same" Clinton, personal issues with her aside? I know what you want to say, but really think about it. Then there's the fact Bernie could end up president anyway.
Shit, at least vote Stein if you're after the 5%. My point is, don't vote Trump or hope for Trump or hope Clinton loses or anything like that.

Probably is.

Yes, but EXACTLY. Of course he could stay in the Senate but he has already inspired a movement and there's still Warren and others there. I wouldn't fret.

June 7, 2016 - 22:36

Thomas Bennett

If anything does happen to her, Obama will just pardon her. He's already withholding emails she sent about the TPP to make sure they don't hurt her; he's obviously on her side.

June 7, 2016 - 22:36

Leo Taylor

I don't know, user. I think it's the power. Most of them are upperclass & used to getting their way, imo.

June 7, 2016 - 22:37

Isaiah Lee

That's my point. But as big of a fuck up as she committed, they should be.

June 7, 2016 - 22:38

Hunter Davis

Incompetent evil or highly competent and methodical evil?

June 7, 2016 - 22:38

Samuel Barnes

Do you guys think that there's any chance that Trump actually manages to get Roe v Wade overturned via supreme court justices, or in some other way greatly restricts access to abortions? That's the only reason I would consider voting for Hillary, to protect access to abortions.

June 7, 2016 - 22:38

Oliver Taylor

I'm not voting for Trump, but I do hope Clinton loses. It's not about principles, it's about burning this whole corrupt system to the ground. Seeing all the corrupt fucks who orchestrated her coronation get nothing in the end is worth 4 years of Trump.

June 7, 2016 - 22:39

Oliver Cruz

muh fraud

mobile.twitter.com/djjohnso/status/740406752886292480

June 7, 2016 - 22:39

Kevin Diaz

You're proving my point here, dude.

Trump is just as corrupt and a fucking idiot.

June 7, 2016 - 22:39

Jaxson Anderson

Also Republicans control Congress already, if he won Obamacare would be repealed as soon as he swore on that Bible.

June 7, 2016 - 22:40

Carter Russell

For those who didn't see it
counterpunch.org/2016/05/16/clinton-does-best-where-voting-machines-flunk-hacking-tests-hillary-clinton-vs-bernie-sanders-election-fraud-allegations/

tl;dr, where voting machines are easily hackable, shillary drastically outperforms the exit polls.

June 7, 2016 - 22:40

Jack Butler

He should never grace a ticket with her name on it.

June 7, 2016 - 22:40

Alexander Cruz

Does Trump even give a shit about abortion? He's on record in the past as being pretty pro-choice. I mean he made those "there needs to be a punishment for the woman" comments recently but it seemed to me like he was pandering to evangelicals or something with that comment. Tbh the man is so inconsistent it's hard to tell what he actually believes.

June 7, 2016 - 22:41

Nolan Robinson

You sound like one of those people who votes for obnoxious protest splitter ML parties. Whatever famalam.

June 7, 2016 - 22:42

Michael Anderson

Of course he's on her side, and it's just making him & the establishment look even worse.

June 7, 2016 - 22:42

Leo Price

Sure, user.

June 7, 2016 - 22:43

John Adams

Bernie's at the podium. Let's see if he calls it quits.

June 7, 2016 - 22:44

Benjamin White

I don't have cable. Update us.

June 7, 2016 - 22:44

Dominic Morgan

I don't think he gives a shit about anything other than getting elected. From what I remember, he's been pretty liberal on social issues. Still, its a big risk. Hillary, as atrocious as she is, is pro choice.

June 7, 2016 - 22:44

Leo Murphy

...

June 7, 2016 - 22:45

Jayden Ortiz

Liberal on social issues on the past anyways.

June 7, 2016 - 22:45

Jonathan Robinson

Crowd is roaring he can barely start speaking. He finally thanks the crowd and they erupt again.

June 7, 2016 - 22:45

Andrew Rodriguez

Gibe link

June 7, 2016 - 22:45

Liam Adams

He once said that women who get abortions should be punished by the state.
It was so insane even pro-lifers called him out on it.

June 7, 2016 - 22:46

Jacob Mitchell

youtube.com/watch?v=R004geOm0L8

WE ARE STILL WITH YOU
ARE YOU STILL WITH US

June 7, 2016 - 22:46

Brayden Parker

mfw comrade Bernie smiles

June 7, 2016 - 22:46

Joseph Jones

Yes thats how feminists work. Traits that are positive are inherently feminine and all women have them. Biological gender isn't real unless it's something that suggest women are better at something then men are. They're just female chauvinists.

June 7, 2016 - 22:47

Brandon Collins

He already said he's take it to the convention, and Cali isn't done reporting. He's still climbing there. You sound defeatist.

June 7, 2016 - 22:47

Asher Powell

BERNIE SANDERS IS SPEAKING NOW:

youtube.com/watch?v=R004geOm0L8

He sounds sad as fuck

June 7, 2016 - 22:47

Jackson Jenkins

IT'S OVER
BERNIE IS FINISHED

June 7, 2016 - 22:48

Levi Flores

cant wait to see them everywhere for the next 5 months

June 7, 2016 - 22:48

Gavin Fisher

...

June 7, 2016 - 22:49

Jace Ward

I think we're getting past the mail ins and starting to get to some election day ballots, where Bernie consistently beats Hillary even in states she wins.

June 7, 2016 - 22:50

John Wright

I'll be honest, it's looking bleak for Bernie. I was just curious to see if the current results from California would force him to change his mind. I want Bernie to stick until the convention.

June 7, 2016 - 22:50

Ryan Foster

Fuck off. Cali's still not done reporting yet and neither is Montana.

June 7, 2016 - 22:51

Jordan Morgan

Bernie confirmed for sheepdog

June 7, 2016 - 22:51

Benjamin Adams

...

June 7, 2016 - 22:51

Cooper Clark

...

June 7, 2016 - 22:51

Samuel Russell

Hillary is the WORST option, by far…

June 7, 2016 - 22:52

Samuel Murphy

Just doesn't make any sense to wonder if he'd drop out if we already know he's planning a contested convention.

June 7, 2016 - 22:52

Joseph Williams

They literally are fucking everywhere. The more I see this shit, the more I want them to get fucked by their daddy.

How are these people any different from notsees again?

I've wanted this for a long time before, but now I just want it more. I want the human species to end.

Yeah, now I don't like him anymore.

June 7, 2016 - 22:54

Eli Moore

No point in trying to troll manchildren, user.

June 7, 2016 - 22:54

Julian Collins

Ignoring policy for a minute, how awful is it that people as atrocious as Trump supporters or Hillary supporters will get what they want in November.

June 7, 2016 - 22:54

Jeremiah Gutierrez

That's how it's always gonna be with democracy. The vast majority are total fucking idiots.

June 7, 2016 - 22:56

Matthew Rodriguez

Doesn't Holla Forums have anything better to do? Jesus Christ.

June 7, 2016 - 22:56

Angel Fisher

?

June 7, 2016 - 22:56

Anthony Baker

fugggg

June 7, 2016 - 22:57

Aaron Morris

This is bring tears to my eyes

June 7, 2016 - 22:57

Jonathan Brooks

The lizards win once again.

June 7, 2016 - 22:57

Jeremiah Rogers

THE FIGHT CONTINUES

June 7, 2016 - 22:57

Jayden Johnson

How sexist of him, fighting against the first woman presidential candidate.

Democracy was a mistake.

June 7, 2016 - 22:58

Angel Garcia

HE'S STILL IN BABY

June 7, 2016 - 22:58

Tyler Adams

Isn't that part of the transformation in class tension?

There's no going back from this point.

June 7, 2016 - 22:58

Jacob Kelly

Looks like we're going to Philly. Sorry Jill, I'll have to wait a month before jumping on your train.

I don't get it, what does proles supporting Trump and Hillary have to do with class tension?

June 7, 2016 - 22:59

Austin Morgan

mb multitasking too much i completely fucked up that sentence lmao
meant to say "no point in trying to understand manchildren"

June 7, 2016 - 22:59

Alexander Thomas

Holy shit, those boos for Hillary

June 7, 2016 - 23:00

Chase Kelly

Totally understandable lmao, and yeah, I agree

June 7, 2016 - 23:00

Isaiah Williams

That's going to be all over the media; racist and sexist Bernie bros boo the first black president and first woman candidate of a major party.

June 7, 2016 - 23:00

Ayden Perry

...

June 7, 2016 - 23:02

Owen Garcia

And earlier practically the whole crowd was chanting "Bernie or Bust." The DNC better be paying attention, except they've made their peace with Trump winning by now.

June 7, 2016 - 23:02

Cameron Bennett

The struggle fucking continues.

June 7, 2016 - 23:02

Jayden Turner

for how long guys? FOR HOW LOOOOONG?

June 7, 2016 - 23:02

Cameron Sanchez

THE STRUGGLE CONTINUES REVOLUTION NOW

June 7, 2016 - 23:02

Carter Gonzalez

>THE STRUGGLE CONTINUES

June 7, 2016 - 23:03

Aiden Thomas

THE STRUGGLE CONTINUES

Right on, Bernie

June 7, 2016 - 23:03

Jeremiah Turner

Thanks an assload

June 7, 2016 - 23:04

Kayden Murphy

There's got to be blatant rigging, guys.

Hilary gets 500 people roughly at her rallies, while Sanders gets 20,000 regularly now. That has to translate into votes in one way or another.

June 7, 2016 - 23:04

Hunter Torres

Policies which are vital to easing social unrest within America among its citizens, such as universal health care and reformations on capital, will elapse into the broader nightmare that is a corporate sponsored government.

June 7, 2016 - 23:04

Wyatt Hall

The vast majority don't vote and don't care because they know it's a dog and pony show that's corrupt as all hell.

June 7, 2016 - 23:05

Logan Nguyen

Jim Gilmore, 1.2%
He got literally 12 votes in Iowa; how the fuck are people still voting for him?

June 7, 2016 - 23:05

Kayden Green

T H E C L A S S S T R U G G L E C O N T I N U E S

June 7, 2016 - 23:05

Isaiah Russell

It's those lazy millennials not registering or voting, silly berniebot. :^)

June 7, 2016 - 23:05

Nathan Rogers

Why surprised about SF? It used to be a liberal centre, but it now has the highest cost of living in the US and is close to Silicon Valley which is dominated by social Darwinists

June 7, 2016 - 23:06

Mason Carter

politico.com/story/2016/06/bernie-sanders-campaign-last-days-224041

June 7, 2016 - 23:06

Mason Rivera

Totally. Especially all the ones who are unemployed with ample time on their hands, amirite?

June 7, 2016 - 23:07

Sebastian Scott

pls stop using this term
It's word salad nonsense, just like "Cultural Marxism".

June 7, 2016 - 23:07

Wyatt Russell

Americans are so classcucked that they're actively rejecting universal health care, affordable education, etc. How would this serve to heighten the tensions when this seems to be what the people want? Possibly it could happen years down the road when the boomers die, but it'll take decades for that to happen.

June 7, 2016 - 23:07

Logan Perez

Median house cost in SF is 1.3 million dollars.

June 7, 2016 - 23:08

Gavin Long

I thought the majority of Americans supported national health care?

June 7, 2016 - 23:08

Kevin Richardson

What is approved term?

June 7, 2016 - 23:08

Matthew Butler

Bernie gonna go out like Mance Rayder

June 7, 2016 - 23:08

Juan Wright

there isn't one because the concept is bullshit.

June 7, 2016 - 23:09

Asher Hernandez

It is the approved term. Ignore that turd. Silicon Valley is full of Social Darwinist techlord lolbertarians.

June 7, 2016 - 23:09

Alexander Jackson

We do, but the MSM spins it to seem like we don't. There are a lot of things that most Americans want, but Porky doesn't. So Porky tries to brainwash the conservatives to not want those things and point at them as the enemy of the majority.

June 7, 2016 - 23:10

Ethan Gray

Polls say we support most of the provisions in Obamacare (maybe not full on single payer, but at least something other than what we had before), a higher minimum wage, higher corporate taxes; social democratic policies in general, but apparently we reject the people who actually offer to bring us those policies.

June 7, 2016 - 23:10

Grayson Turner

I don't know user, what could possibly happen when 5 to 10 years later politically unenfranchised labour begin making demands without concessions?

June 7, 2016 - 23:10

Brandon Sullivan

In ten years, automation might have reached a point that it won't matter. We already have self driving cars, cashiers are soon to be irrelevant; labor is simply not going to be able to maintain what minimal power it has for much longer.

June 7, 2016 - 23:12

David Cruz

They do, it's just the amount of propaganda by the Kochs I'm looking at you Stephen. mixed with how self destructively greedy the porkies are, there's no way. Just makes it all fall apart faster.

June 7, 2016 - 23:12

Leo Wilson

So a nation of lunatics armed to the teeth are going to roll over and passively accept redundancy?

June 7, 2016 - 23:13

Logan Scott

Sanders will get far more done in the Senate than as VP. He should stay there if he's not going for the presidency.

June 7, 2016 - 23:14

Cooper Davis

The people that are armed are the classcucks that overwhelmingly vote Republican and blame our problems on "moochers" and "welfare queens".

June 7, 2016 - 23:15

Oliver Gonzalez

Lad. This is some good bait.

June 7, 2016 - 23:16

Lincoln Perry

Holla Forums, how do we win back the working white class from the Republicans? The Republicans have them locked up with tons of red herrings and the Democrats give them the cold shoulder.

June 7, 2016 - 23:17

James Ward

...

June 7, 2016 - 23:17

Thomas Perez

Automation could mean the death of capitalism. You'll end up with an entire generation of youth who are out of work and constantly being told they're entitled and lazy. Perfect breeding ground for class conciousness.

June 7, 2016 - 23:17

Matthew Hill

I have all but no regional pride, but as a resident of the southeastern United States I get a twisted sense of pleasure from watching all the smug shitstains from New England and California go full classcuck conservative. I no longer have to take any shit from them.

June 7, 2016 - 23:19

Samuel Reed

The only reason you would have cared to begin with is if you did have regional pride.

June 7, 2016 - 23:20

Luke Garcia

they've always been bougie as fuck

June 7, 2016 - 23:20

Daniel Collins

That would require the idpol liberals to stop blaming all of the world's problems on white men and to stop mocking working class/rural white men as dumb racist hicks. Good luck with that.

June 7, 2016 - 23:25

Kevin White

If there ever ended up being some leftist militia of a size that could actually do some real world harm, they would be crushed by right wingers who would use the incident to fear monger amount commie uprisings for the rest of our lives.

June 7, 2016 - 23:27

Owen Martinez

Sanders has been doing a good job at appealing to working class whites by sticking to economic issues.
Just focus on class and combat idpol and spooks.

June 7, 2016 - 23:28

Noah Parker

It's almost like something similar which has happened in the past.

June 7, 2016 - 23:30

Jose Cooper

...

June 7, 2016 - 23:38

Levi Allen

...

June 7, 2016 - 23:39

Jordan Myers

Very nice; feels nostalgic.

June 7, 2016 - 23:48

Camden Brooks

I knew election fraud was happening as far back as 2000, and electronic voting machine fraud since 2004. I somehow believed we could overcome it. But it's just gotten worse and worse.

I actually volunteered and donated in the hopes somehow we could overcome the rigging and have hope, for once. I made 300 calls today phonebanking.

If Shillary doesn't get indicted and disqualified before it's too late, I am officially done caring about the USA. Every dumb media-swallowing drone has lost my sympathy. I know Bernie didn't actually lose either; those rigged machines did it. But the media, including people I formerly respected like Stephen Colbert, will just accept the narrative and avoid any questions.

I'm looking for work abroad. This timeline was a mistake.

June 7, 2016 - 23:50

Luis Bell

Cya later, John Titor.

June 7, 2016 - 23:53

Nolan Hill

Are we gonna take a bet on how long it takes for Clinton to get shot?

June 7, 2016 - 23:56

Andrew Gomez

No, it's more that the smug sense of superiority they give off grates on my nerves than because I feel some spooky loyalty to the arbitrary plot of land that I live on.

I feel the same way when some Euros act like I'm an ignorant because I'm American, it's not because I'm secretly some chauvinistic American patriot.

June 7, 2016 - 23:56

Tyler Taylor

keep fighting lads gonna go get my dick sucked to fight the sadness

good night

June 7, 2016 - 23:57

Leo Myers

We should unanimously vote for Jill Stein, but it doesn't really matter. Revolutionary socialism, not evolutionary socialism.

June 7, 2016 - 23:59

Jayden Ward

Furthermore, I actually hope Trump wins if Shillary isn't jailed. I want to see the DNC destroyed over this.

Personally the television has outlived its usefulness. What used to inform the public now misleads and manipulates the public and pretends to be our mass consciousness. I'm so disgusted I'll never watch talk shows or news shows again. From Samantha Bee to Trevor Noah, they've all betrayed the people.

I'm starting my Maplematch quest early and getting outta dodge. There was a hero left in man, but was painted as the villain and lost against the war empire.

My only consolation is imagining a year down the line when Trump or Hill can't get shit done because of congress and someone makes a "miss me yet?" Meme with Bernie's face. It's easier to adore a presidency that hasn't happened.

What if democracy is all pretend and the aristocracy is just yanking our chain for kicks?

Dear aliens, now is the time to enslave us, as we have zero resistance to oppression anyway.

June 8, 2016 - 00:01

Luis Gomez

Looks like there's only one thing left to do.

June 8, 2016 - 00:04

Leo Bell

Keep trying lad.

Trump will win, you just have to believe!

June 8, 2016 - 00:04

Andrew Flores

No, but the Wall Street transcripts will leak in mid-October.

June 8, 2016 - 00:06

Jaxon Miller

I feel you, 100%, user. I knew as early as age 14-15, growing up in KY dirt poor, having no one who cared, being thrown in jail constantly & mental institutions(simply because parents didn't want to deal with me), even the jailers/group home employees/judges saying there was nothing wrong with me even though I was constantly told I was a bad kid, school/teachers failed me.. That something was seriously wrong with this whole situation. All I did was run away(which is a crime for a 14 yo) & got caught stealing once. I got into drugs too early & this royally fucked me also.

I wanted to leave the country, at least my state, as soon as possible, but never had a way. I haven't liked my country since I was very young. I loved other Americans, just not the government, after how I was treated as a child.

Anyway, I had hope things would get better. After all the shitty things that happened to me on the streets, i still had hope.

Finally, I met someone from another country. It presented me with a chance for love & a chance to leave America. You bet your ass I left.

This election gave me hope. My parents still struggle & I feel guilty for having left them & my sister behind. Extremely guilty. I hoped I could help by campaigning for Sanders, because he's the best opportunity we've had in so fucking long. I still feel there's some possibility there & I will keep fighting from abroad.

But your post pretty much sums up how I've felt most of my life about the US. I think it's too far gone. A lot of people don't realize just how gone it is, if they haven't been at the bottom of the barrel. But now that I'm in another country, I see just how fucked up it is. My fiance is shocked to hear a lot of the stories I tell him, and he's from a third world country, ffs.

America wouldn't get so much blame if it didn't act like it was so much better than other countries. But Americans are getting royally fucked, and they need to wake up. I'm glad I've left, and I don't plan on coming back. But I still worry constantly about my family.

I hope America wakes up. And you should leave, seriously, if you want to be happier. I've never been happier since I've left. Your standard of living will be so much better.

I don't care.. Their post struck a nerve & if things don't change in the US, fuck it.

June 8, 2016 - 00:08

Hudson Parker

...

June 8, 2016 - 00:08

Jackson Bailey

They've gotta leak them earlier than that, to let everybody get a chance to read them. :^)

June 8, 2016 - 00:09

Luis Hill

this guy on CNN looks like such a cuck

June 8, 2016 - 00:09

Ian Watson

WHAT IS IT AND WHY WAS IT DELETED

June 8, 2016 - 00:11

Camden Garcia

Sanders as VP:
Pros:
Cons:

Sanders as senator:
Cons:
Cons:

feelsgoodman.jp2

Ask FDR. It had something to do with labor unionization, anti-immigration, public works, strong social safety nets, progressive taxation, trustbusting, strong industrial regulations, trade protectionism, trade surpluses, and fiery class war rhetoric so unapologetically belligerent it makes Trump look like a mewling kitten.

June 8, 2016 - 00:11

Evan Fisher

I was going to leave myself but my dual-citizenship gf dumped me before she planned to move. Joke's on her, though, she couldn't get into her dream college and is stuck in North Dakota.
If you know of some eligible bachelorettes and/or basements I'm interested in knowing more.

June 8, 2016 - 00:13

Thomas Stewart

The god Kek demands sacrifice!

June 8, 2016 - 00:14

Grayson Walker

Shillary dropped below 60% in CA with only 50% reporting. Think he still has a chance to pull ahead?

June 8, 2016 - 00:15

Cameron Jenkins

No one deserves such a fate.

June 8, 2016 - 00:15

Colton Johnson

dilbert.com/strip/1990-02-14

June 8, 2016 - 00:18

Oliver Gonzalez

My sister's eligible, lmao, but she's got some heavy issues going on as well. She just needs someone, too.

Tbh, the way I met my fiance was.. through Youtube. No shit. It started as a reply to a comment on a song, then we started writing each other & it grew from there. We were pen pals for about a year, then he flew to the US to meet me. I got very lucky.

So I would suggest an online presence in any way possible. I'm socially awkward so that worked well for me. There are plenty of people out there looking for the same thing. It can be in very unexpected places.

I know it sounds insane, but it's worked out great for me, and I know others have found love online, too. Just look for red flags, of course. And be smart about it.

June 8, 2016 - 00:22

Cooper Ward

What song was it

June 8, 2016 - 00:25

Asher Scott

youtube.com/watch?v=p2GgJ0eN6JE

June 8, 2016 - 00:27

Luis Myers

youtube.com/watch?v=2D6ROzOpNMM

Then after I'd forgotten to write him back he sent this one, and it got me even more. :)
metacafe.com/watch/9332933/unplugged_2_a_r_rahman_nenjukulle_full_song/

It was on after that.

June 8, 2016 - 00:29

Angel Hernandez

I have good experience being pen pals, so that's good to know. How to find the right one is quite the lottery drawing, but it's happened once before. What country are you in anyway?

June 8, 2016 - 00:33

Owen Anderson

lmao benis, you never fail

June 8, 2016 - 00:35

Christian Walker

I'm in India now. He's south Indian.

June 8, 2016 - 00:41

Grayson Lopez

Also, this is a much better visual & sound of the song
youtube.com/watch?v=Y7ZHkpRcshQ

I just shared that one since it has subtitles, but it ruins the graphics. This is the one we met on, because I'd asked him to translate.

Anyway.. Go Bernie. Let's hope America gets its shit together.

June 8, 2016 - 00:48

Dominic Smith

(checked)
Also, Scott Adams predicted a Trump victory in a landslide before anyone took him seriously.

June 8, 2016 - 00:49

Josiah Taylor

I have a feeling a shillary presidency would be like the show Veep, with fuck-ups and disasters every day.

Save us, FBI, you're our only hope.

June 8, 2016 - 00:54

Nathaniel Cook

Leftypol, it's been a pleasure being with you guys throughout the primary.

June 8, 2016 - 00:54

Dominic Wood

Except Julia Louis-Dreyfus is funny and Hillary is terrifying.

June 8, 2016 - 01:06

Jack Ward

retard

June 8, 2016 - 01:27

Benjamin Smith

It's reality that's the nightmare.

June 8, 2016 - 01:27

Samuel Jenkins

...

June 8, 2016 - 02:04

Dylan Sullivan

1-800-273-TALK (8255)

June 8, 2016 - 02:16

Josiah Walker

I almost want Trump to beat Hilary. Perhaps having him in power could start a revolution against conservatism.

June 8, 2016 - 02:30

Camden King

Are we at the tragedy part or the farce yet?

June 8, 2016 - 02:37

Levi Myers

It might also cause a backlash towards Bernie for being critical of Hillary and causing Trump to win, causing people to avoid supporting similar candidates in the future because "they can't win".

June 8, 2016 - 02:39

Jayden Hughes

True enough

June 8, 2016 - 02:43

Nolan Flores

dude, are you the same dude who had food poisoning like a month ago? are you nuts?

June 8, 2016 - 03:04

Hunter Roberts

Please tell me it wasn't homecooked

Maybe, hopefully it will result in Bernie to be vindicated, weakening the protection necessary for SJWs to siphon blood from the left unmolested.

June 8, 2016 - 03:22

Jaxson Jones

It wasn't him. It was me lmao. And it came from my eggs.

June 8, 2016 - 03:37

Henry Gray

Also fuck you, North Dakota is beautiful and the rural Midwest is a wonderful place to start a commune or survive and organize a revolution from.

June 8, 2016 - 03:38

Adam Hernandez

"you can't make omelettes without occasionally getting some food poisoning" - Mao Zedong

June 8, 2016 - 04:10

Camden Scott

Maybe it's not over.

The Hillary campaign and the Democratic Party know they will have to make concessions in order to get Sanders supporters on board, what we have to do is make sure we get concessions that allow us to subvert them.

I'm currently writing an article advocating that Sanders supporters lobby democratic officials and Senators to make Sanders the Party Leader in the Senate. In some ways, that'd make him more powerful than the president.

What do you guys think? If I do this, I'll do this hard, and I'll need your help.

June 8, 2016 - 05:36

Sebastian Lee

Bit of a funny to cheer comrades up. The salt in this thread from Hilary supporters is hilarious.

reddit.com/r/EnoughTrumpSpam/comments/4izvdj/jill_stein_campaigns_for_trump_on_reddit_by_lying/

June 8, 2016 - 05:46

Zachary Miller

Well, she's not far off

June 8, 2016 - 05:51

Justin Roberts

This is my nightmare scenario, IDPOL running the Left into the ground.

June 8, 2016 - 05:52

Gabriel Long

All is not lost. We still have the down ticket.

We've already been given an ideal scenario. Hillary and the DNC are laundering money away from state elections and now that the big primary is basically over, nobody is going to notice the congressional primaries.

We should first focus on supporting Tim Canova to take out Debbie Wasserman Schultz, unless Hillary makes her take a fall at the convention.

June 8, 2016 - 06:07

Luke Watson

how was bernie going to deal with corporate outsourcing and the possibility of corporations leaving the US due to the high taxes that he proposed? not a b8, im just genuinely curious

June 8, 2016 - 06:19

Lucas Richardson

For Holla Forums now it is the End of Times, the great battle between their Uber Chad and the Evil SJW candidate that will end the world. As a Bernie, I'm going to enjoy watching third parties shoot up in the polls after the snowglobes of primary elections break and the two candidates realize they actually have to run for an election outside of their party.

June 8, 2016 - 06:22

Nicholas Parker

Good old fashioned tariffs - if you try and bring shit in from elsewhere, you have to pay extra. America still has massive wealth that those companies want to take advantage of, so they'd most likely prefer staying domestic to going foreign.

June 8, 2016 - 06:23

Landon Fisher

We don't have the field to ourselves there, either. Remember the lolberts are surging.

That. And lower immigration quotas when the PC police aren't watching, so that they can't bypass it by bringing those problems stateside.

June 8, 2016 - 07:37

Ryan Adams

Remember to start collecting posts now if you want to make a good collage of the 2016 elections.

June 8, 2016 - 07:56

Jace Morales

I've been waiting for this shoe to drop since this election started. Bernie was the strongest candidate by far since he had THE MAJORITY OF THE INDEPENDENT VOTERS. This is why he did so well in the polls. Both Hillary and Trump now have start sucking "Bernie Bros" cocks for the rest of election cycle if they want to get elected.

Watch as the Trumpers and the Shillbots get all jelly when their candidates start hungering for our "means of production".

June 8, 2016 - 07:59

Xavier Wood

...

June 8, 2016 - 08:02

Luis Smith

Someone already mentioned tariffs, but
There's also the fact that it never happens.
It just doesn't occur.
It's a myth by Austrian Economists.

Take a look at all tax hikes in the past. This never happened because they already use all the loopholes they can. They usually just sit and take it. It's all bluff.

June 8, 2016 - 08:03

Joshua Gomez

Taxes do have a significant effect, but pretty much only to financial flimflam industries, and only when the "better option" is an 0% tax haven like Bermuda (or a -0% nation-plundering racket like 2000s Ireland).

The primary concern most often is of course labor, regulatory, and enforcement/corruption/bribery arbitrage.

June 8, 2016 - 08:19

Samuel Gray

Clinton claims Democratic nomination after winning four of six final states
wsws.org/en/articles/2016/06/08/prim-j08.html

By Patrick Martin
8 June 2016

June 8, 2016 - 08:21

William Jackson

...

June 8, 2016 - 08:22

Michael Anderson

Here's the real question.

What the fuck is a tax difference of a few percent going to make when you consider that you can have 30 chinese laborers for the price of one american, who work longer hours with no overtime, in a building you pay a fraction of the maintenance costs on?

Even if business taxes in the US dropped to fucking zero it would still be more cost effective to outsource.

June 8, 2016 - 08:24

Hudson Wood

idpol lapping it up

June 8, 2016 - 08:27

Aaron Moore

Please god let her be indicted

June 8, 2016 - 08:29

Jason Reed

twitter.com/Elect_Justice/status/740404698801442816

June 8, 2016 - 08:42

Dominic Jenkins

keep dreaming

June 8, 2016 - 08:42

Christian Hernandez

What the fuck is wrong with this country?

June 8, 2016 - 08:44

John Cruz

Chomsky's pessimism proven right once again. Bernie never stood a chance. This "movement" he's created will dissipate. And the status quo shall persist.

Also, Commiefornia meme is dead. Even San Fran voted for Clinton. Not a real surprise to me. Cali is full of yuppies.

June 8, 2016 - 08:45

Eli Ross

see
We didn't vote for Clinton. We were rigged.

June 8, 2016 - 08:56

Jaxson King

Well, the only REAL solution is to turn companies into cooperatives instead.
Until then, tariffs are a fair solution.

June 8, 2016 - 08:59

Owen Anderson

No amount of coops would make you competitive against armies of utterly dejected foreign slaves imprisoned in or fleeing from bone-crushing privation under the grip of iron-fisted oppression.

Unless the entire world was in regulatory and economic harmony, borders must always an absolute necessity.

June 8, 2016 - 09:08

Liam Roberts

I'm confused. I thought there weren't going to be any exit polls at all yesterday?

June 8, 2016 - 09:12

Adrian Howard

The major networks cancelled their polling, yes. For exactly this reason.

June 8, 2016 - 09:14

Owen Rodriguez

Does anyone have total numbers from exit polls all around the country? If so, approximately how great a difference is there between the projected and official results? Is it big enough to give Sanders a significant majority nationwide?

Either way, I think this particular election will end up like in 2000 when Gore himself halted the senate investigation into the Supreme Court swindle of his own nomination to Bush, but I really hope lawsuits WILL go forward. Even if this election's cheated results are allowed to slide past the convention, lawsuits and recounts all around the country could clean up our democracy in time for the midterms and pour gasoline all over the party establishment.

June 8, 2016 - 09:27

James Parker

Lucky.

Why the fuck did you ever watch them to begin with? TV has been obsolete for almost a decade.

Those midterms are going to matter allot more then a presidential election, Especially for things like TPP.

Again, it just needs to be stressed it's about the ideas, not the candidate.

THIS! PEOPLE HELP THIS MAN OUT!

This is something lolberts need to learn.

June 8, 2016 - 09:31

Jack Ward

Snowden is #stillsanders

June 8, 2016 - 10:27

Brody Morris

Can Politico please be the first media outlet that we purge after the revolution?

Followed by Vox, of course.

June 8, 2016 - 10:48

Brayden Flores

see

June 8, 2016 - 10:52

James Baker

I can only imagine the flak he's getting for that tweet from rabid RIPs

June 8, 2016 - 11:39

Jacob Bell

Is this what it's going to be like from now on? A dead political establishment desperately trying to paint themselves as victims in need of rescue? Are they honestly going to brow beat young democrats and independents into voting for candidates they do not believe in?

Nice to know that when in the face of their upcoming demise, Liberals do not change their tactics.

June 8, 2016 - 11:49

Justin Harris

...

June 8, 2016 - 11:51

Zachary Scott

...

June 8, 2016 - 11:51

Elijah Carter

youtube.com/watch?v=u52Oz-54VYw

June 8, 2016 - 11:54

Ian Smith

what the fuck does this mean? rest in pepperonis?

June 8, 2016 - 11:55

Lucas Robinson

Election Justice USA has the data you seek, it's no coincidence the networks stopped exit polling in California. Other exit polling done strongly suggests election fraud.

When the average American realizes the elections are rigged, maybe something will change.

June 8, 2016 - 11:56

Gabriel Miller

Word on the street is that the exit polls in California were 15% off and Trump's were only 1%

But I'm sure it's no big deal :^)

June 8, 2016 - 12:18

Benjamin Adams

richardcharnin.wordpress.com/2016/06/08/democratic-primary-approval-ratings-matching-pre-election-and-exit-polls-indicate-fraud/

>In a previous post, the True Vote was estimated based on actual caucus votes, exit polls, estimated manipulation of voter rolls, absentee and provisional ballots. It showed Sanders leading by 51.5-48.5% (800,000 votes). richardcharnin.wordpress.com/2016/05/28/democratic-primaries-is-clinton-leading-by-3-million-votes/

June 8, 2016 - 12:22

Bentley Bennett

youtube.com/watch?v=_IAJ5fAm3Cs

Lawsuit launching tomorrow lads

June 8, 2016 - 12:35

Xavier Rivera

What are RIPs?

June 8, 2016 - 12:50

Dylan Perez

Absolutely

They both wrote a hit piece on Bernie today as well.

vox.com/2016/6/8/11881130/bernie-sanders-politico?utm_campaign=vox&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

June 8, 2016 - 12:53

Jaxon Richardson

Just a reminder. The FBI investigation isn't even over, and the Judicial Watch court case is developing.
It's never ogre. All we can do at this point is hope and meme. yes that was a pun

June 8, 2016 - 13:08

Daniel Adams

Reactionary Identity Politicians.IE SJWs and stormfags.

June 8, 2016 - 13:27

Levi Thomas

Who is /Trump/ now?

youtube.com/watch?v=HCrBEE4j2gU

June 8, 2016 - 13:33

Aiden Peterson

No one, fuck off shill.

June 8, 2016 - 13:37

Nathan Ortiz

...

June 8, 2016 - 13:40

Caleb Price

Forgot about that

June 8, 2016 - 13:44

David Walker

...

June 8, 2016 - 14:05

Landon Parker

GUYS!

I lost my propaganda folder.

Please post anti-Hillary memes; I'm in desperate need of them right now.

June 8, 2016 - 14:06

Nathaniel Barnes

...

June 8, 2016 - 14:08

Noah Kelly

...

June 8, 2016 - 14:08

Angel Powell

fugging cripple let me post

June 8, 2016 - 14:10

Kayden Nguyen

I thought they didn't need the support of racist Bernie Bros?

June 8, 2016 - 14:12

Jack Harris

Dude they were doing that before Bernie was even in the race, claiming if you didn't vote Democratic you were a muh privileged, sexist racist

I was actually working on an updated version for Clinton supporters didn't get very far though

June 8, 2016 - 14:14

Bentley Flores

This makes me sick. The only way a girl or anyone else with no connections can become president is if we eliminate the campaign finance system we have, and let people get elected on their ideas rather than how much corporate dick they suck. Electing Shillary is the opposite of giving every girl the opportunity to become president.

June 8, 2016 - 14:14

Nathan Bailey

Uh excuse me are you saying that the problems facing women are more structural and related to the material conditions of our society than just women not having enough self-confidence to run?

Get out of here you shuddersome virgin sinner

June 8, 2016 - 14:17

Joshua Diaz

Wait, undocumented immigrants can vote now?

June 8, 2016 - 14:21

William Taylor

o i am laffin

June 8, 2016 - 14:23

Luis Collins

Naw, that wasn't me. But I remember him. I'm in another country & usually stay indoors most of the time since I don't know my way around still.

But the one time I decide to be social & eat at the neighbor's house, this happened.. I'll prolly be more of a hermit now. I think this is the sickest I've ever been in my life so I'm not taking any chances again.

June 8, 2016 - 14:25

Camden Parker

https:[email protected]/* *//an-open-letter-to-bernie-sanders-ef3fd98b1159#.a7i32g6ul

Holy shit
I dare anyone to try and make it through this article without wanting to commit suicide. It's just not possible.

Do the majority of Democrats believe this shit? How can someone be so fucking stupid?

June 8, 2016 - 14:26

Michael Sullivan

No, that's why she is saying they need you to vote.

June 8, 2016 - 14:35

Daniel Bailey

When will they learn that Jews aren't white?

June 8, 2016 - 14:36

Matthew Peterson

Write that article, Mr. Editor. Let us know how we can help. Sanders needs all the help he can get in the media. Share it here afterwards or if you want any input from us.

Thank you.

June 8, 2016 - 14:37

Adrian Cook

If running against Hillary is sexist, is running against Bernie anti-Semitic?
Was running against Obama racist?
Hillary = racist anti-semite?

June 8, 2016 - 14:40

Jose Gomez

Here it is
bunkermag.org/993-2/
I dunno, I'm having second thoughts on it. I doubt people care about my opinion on how to do this stuff.

If you want to help though, you can lobby some democratic officials and shill for this idea around some places.

June 8, 2016 - 14:45

Juan Stewart

mmm pepperonis

June 8, 2016 - 14:47

Evan Powell

youtube.com/watch?v=2sGUcKe7j-Q

June 8, 2016 - 14:50

Benjamin Green

Don't have second thoughts. This is great.

Hopefully Bernie can get rid of Dan fucking Malloy.

If they don't give him senate head, next best option would be him (unlikely) running 3rd party with Jill Stein and berningtheconvention.

June 8, 2016 - 14:51

Dominic Ward

I'm someone who has never lobbied before.

How does one lobby to democratic officials? I want to help but don't know where to start.

June 8, 2016 - 14:52

Charles Williams

youtube.com/watch?v=TzwZtmTEMuw
Jill Stein interview
wew

June 8, 2016 - 15:02

Nathan Gomez

I really hope Bernie accepts her offer

June 8, 2016 - 15:09

William Ross

meant for

June 8, 2016 - 15:09

Jacob Diaz

Well you look up the contact info for officials, Senators, Reps, even state level officials, send them emails, phone calls, if you have the time go out and see them in person. Supposedly, you can get a state rep in your pocket in my state just by buying them a sandwhich.

June 8, 2016 - 15:13

Gavin Miller

Fuck, that's brilliant, benis. I've not heard of this fellow. It seems this shit is continuously cyclical, for the reasons he gives specifically.

Can I ask, how old are you? I'm curious.

June 8, 2016 - 15:15

Levi Bennett

That's a pretty famous song, my dude.

June 8, 2016 - 15:18

Michael Campbell

...

June 8, 2016 - 15:20

Carson White

I actually converted & uploaded this one here weeks ago. ;) Near to my heart, since it's from my state. Thank you, user.

I'm slow to the table, unfortunately. I didn't have access to a lot of education material like this, growing up. I'm 29 & just now hearing it for the first time.

June 8, 2016 - 15:23

Angel Harris

I usually know a lot of Bluegrass folk songs. So that's what I'm used to, rather than the much more political ones.

June 8, 2016 - 15:24

Jeremiah Sanders

perfect

June 8, 2016 - 15:25

Austin Jackson

I can do the email stuff, but do they actually read those? I thought their aids just delete them all or send an automated message back.

I mean if i contact Elizabeth Warren, wouldn't i just get an automated response saying
"Look, we have two candidates with a great message; compared to the republicans we're great!"

I can't imagine meeting with them in person. I'm just a student with no influence or power, and i barely have money to buy myself a sandwich let alone some rich politicians. Why would they meet with me?

June 8, 2016 - 15:25

Jaxson James

how new?

June 8, 2016 - 15:25

Andrew Butler

kek

June 8, 2016 - 15:26

Dylan Brooks

I got a personalized email back from my Senator, even dressed me as an eagle scout. Suppose I'm on some list. And even if their staff looks at it, if enough people send the same thing the official will hear about it.

And politicians are always going out to meet with constituents, look at what events they're going and meet them when they come nearby.

June 8, 2016 - 15:30

Luis Moore

Well, I dropped out in 9th grade, didn't go to college. So I didn't get to read a lot about anything.

Pretty damn new, then. From 16-25 on the streets & odd jobs, then got a good job, still struggled, then left the country. Basically I've almost read all the communist manifesto, that's it. No bully pls.

I'm well aware of class though, having been at the bottom you get aware real quick. But as far as theory, I'm an infant.

June 8, 2016 - 15:31

Henry Flores

I hope that answers what you were asking lmao

June 8, 2016 - 15:32

Oliver Flores

The most important theory is Self Theory.
Think for yourself and you will do fine.

June 8, 2016 - 15:34

Kayden Gray

ABSOLUTE MADMAN.

June 8, 2016 - 15:34

Nolan Hernandez

Yeah, being hard headed & having done lots of drugs, combined with my southern father teaching me to basically hate police & fear them incredibly, has taught me to be wise in that manner. I've been on my own forever so I've had to think for myself survival-wise. That's good advice.

Sorry guys, I'm loopy on painkillers & still sick, so I usually don't post this much. Any help I can get to open my mind up more on these issues, I'll take & am very appreciative.

I'm very interested in the revolutionary music.

June 8, 2016 - 15:41

Benjamin Watson

Is there a particular author who writes on Self Theory you'd recommend? Or it's just advice in general?

June 8, 2016 - 15:42

Ryan Mitchell

Here's something good that is not too hard to get into. No bullshit, just straight to the point:

theanarchistlibrary.org/library/donald-rooum-and-freedom-press-ed-what-is-anarchism-an-introduction

June 8, 2016 - 15:44

Lincoln Diaz

MUH VAJAYJAY

June 8, 2016 - 15:46

Camden Cooper

Thank you for the baby steps, user.

June 8, 2016 - 15:48

Michael Clark

YAY OBAMA GOT ELECTED

RACISM ISN'T REAL ANYMORE

YAY

June 8, 2016 - 15:49

James Flores

And liberals still think they are not racist, sexist, whatever.

June 8, 2016 - 15:50

Juan Torres

Just FYI, California still hasn't come in yet. There's still ~30% of the vote left to count.

June 8, 2016 - 15:54

Blake Myers

BERNIE LIVE IN VERMONT
burlingtonfreepress.com/story/news/politics/2016/06/08/sanders-expected-vermont-today-rally-planned/85590350/

expected any minute to start

June 8, 2016 - 15:55

Brayden Richardson

This is what they've been waiting for.

June 8, 2016 - 15:57

Ethan Rivera

around 3 Million ballots remain uncounted in CA
latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-california-primary-wednesday-s-big-question-how-many-1465375928-htmlstory.html

June 8, 2016 - 15:58

Angel Cooper

started lagging for me
alternate: youtube.com/watch?v=jONk62klbKQ

June 8, 2016 - 16:02

Asher Gray

...

June 8, 2016 - 16:02

Ethan Reed

You're right, babe. As a functioning adult employed by the public sector, I know first hand the ramifications that defunding federal programs can have, practices Trump is more likely to commit than Hillary. While Hillary may be a war criminal with a catastrophic foreign policy history, Trump would be in a similar position had he prior political experience.

June 8, 2016 - 16:09

Camden Stewart

Okat

June 8, 2016 - 16:11

Christopher Lopez

Okay, I'll give emailing a shot. Hope it works

June 8, 2016 - 16:12

John Collins

when?

June 8, 2016 - 16:25

Owen Price

another mirror: youtube.com/watch?v=rICpBBomgoA

dunno

June 8, 2016 - 16:28

Oliver Powell

This

Duge, I would agree with you if it weren't for the high likelihood of a Hillary indictment. I think we can still set our sights higher.

June 8, 2016 - 17:54

Elijah Thompson

Does anyone have a good recording of Ethel Raim's version of Joe Hill's will? I keep looking & can't find it yet.

I did come across a good website which I thought would have it, but it linked me to this one: labornotes.org/2010/11/joe-hills-last-will
With pic related. What a joke of hypocrisy, right? Special attn. to the sidebar.

Thanks again Benis poster, for starting me out with Phil Ochs.

June 8, 2016 - 17:55

Cameron Davis

Well of course, but if that happens it won't matter what we're doing, Sanders will probably take the nomination.

June 8, 2016 - 18:02

Luke Morales

>twitter.com/Elect_Justice/status/740404386485153792
t b h

June 8, 2016 - 18:07

Michael Hernandez

inthesetimes.com/article/19175/bernie-sanderes-should-raise-hell-at-the-democratic-convention
tfw facts is McCarthyism

June 8, 2016 - 18:09

Jacob Brooks

I know that most of you will think this is stupid and too abstract and honestly I agree with you but I don't know what else to do at this point. Please sign this, maybe we can inspire people not to support Shillary and instead get more radical. Sorry if this is naive or whatever, but what do you have to lose signing it? Maybe it can be a symbolic victory:

change.org/p/the-people-pledge-not-to-support-clinton-and-commit-to-fighting-both-parties-in-various-ways?recruiter=554041310&utm_source=share_for_starters&utm_medium=copyLink

June 8, 2016 - 18:16

Adam Perez

Well, my point was that if we get to the convention and the FBI hasn't even wrapped up its investigation (HIGHLY unlikely, they were "wrapping up" a month ago, so the whole point was kind of silly) we'd want Sanders as VP, because if Clinton gets Nixon'd we couldn't have a better Ford.
See here-

(though that poster is a retard for thinking letting someone in who would finally sign all these dumbfuck Tea Party bills that have been waiting in the wings is a good idea)
Let's be clear. Sanders as VP would be a bad idea because that position is mostly a ceremonial advisory position, and Clinton would not give a fuck what he has to say. All he would be there for is to keep the left and the Democratic Party's left wing in the public eye, be a spectre haunting the Democrats, if you will. The only reason for him to accept VP instead of MinLead is if a Hillary indictment is still a threat. If the DOJ goes "fuck you" and says they won't indict her then the only place for him to go is Minority Leader. And as soon as that becomes Majority Leader, then really, I'd argue he'd be the most important person in Washington save the witch herself.
Another problem I have with your proposal is the idea that Bernie wouldn't try to extract this from the party himself. Sounds like bull to the shit. Hillary scored Secretary of State because it gave her the power she really wanted the presidency for in the first place- the power to wage war, intervene and all that. Hell, I bet she offers it as a concession prize and not the other way around.

June 8, 2016 - 18:18

Henry Bell

These people are fucked in the head
It's like the memes have just rotted their brains completely

June 8, 2016 - 18:18

Samuel Harris

Yeah, people should probably sign this. Dunno bout that street address though. Makes me think people will get put on some list.

June 8, 2016 - 18:28

Leo Wilson

Just lie m8 it's not hard at all to do

This is more of a symbolic gesture than anything I just want to stoke whatever embers are left of the Sanders campaign

June 8, 2016 - 18:30

Aiden Young

so a spook?

But in all seriousness, Editor has introduced a compelling concession that I think would be a good move forward: getting Bernie elected as the leader of the Senate.

Next to the Speaker, it's the most powerful position in Congress. And it's a position you keep until you step down.

June 8, 2016 - 18:38

Anthony Fisher

Good idea. I'd suggest though, changing the tite to include: "Not voting for Clinton or Trump".

Just my thoughts.

June 8, 2016 - 18:39

Ryan Campbell

But it would be difficult. Could we get 50 of those Senators to vote Bernie?

June 8, 2016 - 18:42

Anthony Brooks

If Reid and Clinton asked them to, I'd think they'd have to go along, and they are who Bernie will be negotiating with.

And regardless, I don't want to see Chuck Schumer with that job.

June 8, 2016 - 18:46

Carter Adams

I changed it

Pls sign

June 8, 2016 - 18:47

Daniel Clark

Signed & shared on Twitter, comr8. Good going on initiative.

June 8, 2016 - 18:51

Blake Smith

I'd sign it but I'm not old enough to vote anyway.

June 8, 2016 - 18:53

Luis Ward

Do it anyway

thank you m8 now i dont feel entirely stupid for making it

June 8, 2016 - 18:56

Elijah Smith

Don't lose hope, comr8. Sanders isn't going away any time soon. The convention is going to be bananas.

And I love The Editor's idea of making Sanders leader of the Senate. That's a great step forward. And we'll continue with midterms & down ballots from here on out, as well.

I'm definitely not voting for Clinton or Trump, so I felt signing your petition was just fine.

June 8, 2016 - 18:59

Nathan Kelly

I want to try and encourage people to move beyond the whole thing and start having really radical civil disobedience like the 60s and 70s but IDK how. Right now there's a lot of protest and CB but it's all liberal/left-liberal in nature and it seems like nobody wants actual socialism in america just social democracy or FDR tier reforms

June 8, 2016 - 19:02

Samuel Foster

I think that its all a step in the right direction. The left was at the height of its power during the start of FDR's time, after he died the capitalists did everything they could to destroy anything in the left that could pose a threat to them, beating back their neoliberal reforms and control over discourse is necessary to make further advances in my opinion.

June 8, 2016 - 19:05

Carter Bell

Abogado del diablito here, but if you want Sanders to become Senate Majority Leader, vote Dem down-ballot and Trump. Seriously though don't fucking vote Trump unless you want the elimination of all taxes but sales tax. We did that in Puerto Rico as a shitty response to tax evasion and look where we are now. Don't let the Tea Party do shit. Don't even gamble on it.

I respectfully disagree.
Broham, socialism in America is completely kill as long as groups like Socialist Alternative (which is literally the best among them and still damnable in many respects) filled with lifestylist butch punk rock white grills and male feminists with nasty beards and manbuns are leading the charge. Entryism is the way forward unless there's cause for American Revolution Parte Dos (as in, something yuge that gets every normie and their mother upset). I know it sucks but them's the spooks.

June 8, 2016 - 19:06

Tyler Bell

but it's already failed so much

June 8, 2016 - 19:08

Christian Bailey

Continuing my spoiler here, if you don't want to vote for Clinton out of principle (like me) vote Stein. If you legitimately think Trump would be a better president slap yourself, twist your nipples and then vote for Stein.

Nonsense, entryism is how we got it done in Puerto Rico and the recent Green Party policy changes. Look at Corbyn, too.

June 8, 2016 - 19:11

Nathaniel Bennett

Entryism hasn't failed, just compare the state of the democratic party right now to where it was a year ago. If we can continue this trend we'll eventually end up in the place we need to be.

As for lifestylism and idpol in leftist organizations, its just as important for us to get involved with what can be saved and put it on the right course. There will always be an important role for groups like theirs, they can do things people in the mainstream can't.

June 8, 2016 - 19:12

Julian Bell

Protests aren't as effective when the MSM refuses to cover them. There was a protest about CNN's lack of Bernie coverage and guess what, they refused to cover it.

I hope Shillary gets killed, indicted or otherwise lose to Trump, just to teach the DNC not to be crooked bastards that treat the next generation like shit.

June 8, 2016 - 19:27

Jordan Jackson

Entryism is literally what the populists did to the Democrats and it's ultimately what gave us the New Deal. Entryism is what Nixon's brand of neopaleoconservatives did. It's what the fucking Bolsheviks did, more or less.
What CAN be saved though? It's not in the orgs and it's not online. It's dormant. We'd have to start fresh to entice them, and a movement takeover like that takes money or influence, neither of which we have unless we can convince the Bernie Money Machine to join our cause, and that's not going to happen if Bernie sets up his own alternative. FWIW I'd totally put my efforts behind a new org immediately and vigorously regardless but I just don't see it, we'd get accused of brocialism AND sectarianism. If anything we could entryist Bernie's org, but that's as good as we'll get the way I see it.
Furthermore most of these orgs style themselves as parties which is fucking pointless in a duopoly.

June 8, 2016 - 19:28

Nicholas Adams

I've been seeing this guys name a lot.
How credible is he?

June 8, 2016 - 19:53

Jace Edwards

huffingtonpost.com/entry/elizabeth-warren-hillary-clinton-endorsement_us_5758a27ae4b0ced23ca6ffec

It looks like the pressure on Bernie is mounting, as is the attempt to pacify his movement by offering up Warren as the example to follow. I never understood why, but liberals adore Warren, in spite of her having always been your run-of-the-mill faux populist.

June 8, 2016 - 19:56

Isaac Price

Fucking traitor. Of all people she should know better.

June 8, 2016 - 20:01

Josiah Bennett

#ImWithHer

June 8, 2016 - 20:20

Ryan Morales

She's all we've got and she's gobs better than the rest of the rabble.

June 8, 2016 - 20:26

Aiden Thompson

lol. she's fucking over sander and you say she's all 'we' got. what do you mean by 'we' anyways?

June 8, 2016 - 20:30

James James

I was defending Warren even after she didn't endorse him before New York.

I'm ashamed to have defended her.

June 8, 2016 - 20:32

Ayden Butler

Not just him, she's fucking over everything she claims to stand for. "Tough on Wall Street" is her main selling point, so for her to endorse the ultimate Wall Street candidate will completely ruin her appeal.

June 8, 2016 - 20:37

Xavier Miller

We'll know why she never endorsed and campaigned for him if she in fact gets asked to be VP and accepts.

June 8, 2016 - 20:38

Owen Jackson

She's fucking over Sanders and she's still better than the Kore Klinton Krew.
I mean progressives.

June 8, 2016 - 20:40

Adrian James

There's a part of me that hope that this pisses off his supporters more.

June 8, 2016 - 20:43

Kevin James

...

June 8, 2016 - 21:09

Asher Robinson

So far no one has posted any sort of criticisms. He posts all of his math and his sources, and the only mainstream criticism I've seen he mentions on his blog where he was called a crackpot

But considering what we know about exit polling and the sorts of shenanigans we've seen through this whole primary process I think he's legit.

June 8, 2016 - 21:13

Michael Davis

This made feel some kind of way.

June 8, 2016 - 21:13

Nathaniel Carter

Thanks.
I've been reading articles saying he's a "crackpot" too, but most of his opinions seem semi-reasonable. I'm kind of curious about the book he wrote about JFK now.

June 8, 2016 - 21:22

Jack Rivera

...

June 8, 2016 - 21:22

Connor Green

Don't fall to the sympathetic Trumpers.
They may feign sympathy, but they have nothing but contempt for us.
Spread it, the movement Bernie started must stay strong!

June 8, 2016 - 21:25

Charles Powell

Yeah, he's just like "look, here are the numbers and here's what they say." It's just statistics, right? It's not some sort of fucking voodoo, so why just call him a crackpot? If it was just a matter of being wrong I feel like it would be really easy to demonstrate mathematically why he's wrong. Instead they just act like he's a crazy person.

Man, fuck trump.

June 8, 2016 - 21:29

Luis Thomas

Is stormfront/pol funded by the kochs?

June 8, 2016 - 21:33

James Wilson

just gonna leave this here

t.umblr.com/redirect?z=http://justicegazette.org/bernie-defrauded-in-ca.html&t=ZDk1ZmI2ZDIyMTZlYjVhYzY2MDUxMWQ3ZGQzNzEyZmRlZDgyOTg0YixEa0lYeDlsYw==

June 8, 2016 - 21:33

Adrian Reed

One of the Koch Brothers said he was voting for Shillary recently.
So why would the Kochs fund a group of edgy 13 year olds with a fixation on black cocks?

June 8, 2016 - 21:36

Brody Hall

I forgot about that.

Still, I want to see the world burn.

June 8, 2016 - 21:37

Jacob Lewis

Probably, they've funded nazi groups and holocaust deniers before. I doubt anything would stop them now.

They're doing that because the Republican party is sinking like a stone. They play idpol on both sides if it benefits their agenda. It's becoming increasingly obvious that the Democratic party has become the new favorite party for corporate interest.

June 8, 2016 - 21:44

Leo Barnes

...

June 8, 2016 - 21:47

Jason Cruz

spongegar has to be the best shit to come out recently tbh

June 8, 2016 - 21:47

Lucas Reed

This next decade going to be shitty, but interesting.

It's kind of obvious now, porkies funding ideologies and idpol to fight each other. I bet Soros and the Kochs are friends. The goal all alonge is make murrika full on fascist before the oncoming economic crash, creating neofuedalism with maybe some sex robots.

Also, we need memes of this.

June 8, 2016 - 21:55

Jonathan Foster

...

June 8, 2016 - 22:01

Brayden Bailey

foxnews.com/opinion/2016/06/08/bernie-sanders-kicked-off-revolution-and-its-just-getting-started.html This is from Fox News? What the fuck? What is happening to the world?

June 8, 2016 - 22:10

Logan Roberts

twitter.com/NomikiKonst/status/740423039771365376

June 8, 2016 - 22:15

Lincoln Butler

Oh yeah. I think we're living a time of a major change. I'm not really looking foward to the futre. The modern "left" is disorganized and overly concerned with idpol nonsense and upper middle class issues. Unlike in the the 30s we don't have a strong left to unite the commons. I think America might fall to the brownshirts at this point. I'm scared comrade. hold me.

June 8, 2016 - 22:16

Nicholas Barnes

Post yfw when you realize that Fox News journalists were entryists the entire time

June 8, 2016 - 22:24

Juan Moore

I've noticed that normally right wing sources tend to be more fair if it means a chance to stick it to the left (in this case, Hillary and the Democratic party). The same thing happened with Breitbart during Gamergate.

June 8, 2016 - 22:26

Cooper Young

Now Normie's are stealing it and using it on Twitter and Facebook
REEEEEE

I'm okay with it being used for commissar Sanders though. I hope he #bernstheconvention

June 8, 2016 - 22:31

Benjamin Foster

Sen. Warren I'm HRC

June 8, 2016 - 22:38

Joshua Bennett

I knew this was coming after she held back for so long. Figured she'd wait until the convention though.

Yep, it hurts her appeal in my eyes. She's playing politics which should be expected, but endorsing the sellout is bad for her.

June 8, 2016 - 23:32

Benjamin Davis

Does this figure include the quasi-illegal "interim" ballots?

>We'll do a great big, beautiful audit. And make them pay for it, not the citizens!
We are suing the media! They are complicit!
This man needs more money. Rip their throat out, Nate!

MORE NIGGER MASSAHS IN THE COTTON FIELDS! MORE MADAMES IN THE BROTHELS! SO PROGRESSIVE!

June 8, 2016 - 23:38

Chase Sanders

...

June 8, 2016 - 23:43

Owen Perry

holy fuck, someone reposting my 6 month old oc

June 9, 2016 - 03:55

Nathaniel Cooper

Hey, Obummer asked Bernie to drop out and he said no, so meh

June 9, 2016 - 04:00

Josiah Gutierrez

Source?

June 9, 2016 - 05:18

Ryder Turner

...

June 9, 2016 - 05:20

Joshua Hill

...

June 9, 2016 - 05:22

Adrian Robinson

...

June 9, 2016 - 05:23

Jaxon Phillips

holy shit

June 9, 2016 - 05:33

Cameron Scott

The Hidden Sexism in Calling Out Hillary Clinton’s $12,000 Armani Jacket
motto.time.com/4361509/the-hidden-sexism-in-calling-out-hillary-clintons-12000-armani-jacket/

June 9, 2016 - 06:37

Noah Bell

...

June 9, 2016 - 06:58

Aiden Parker

...

June 9, 2016 - 07:00

Ian Taylor

Surely this guy knows he's an internet meme by now.. I wonder if he knows & is giving us OC?

I like dapper Harold.

June 9, 2016 - 07:31

Samuel Lopez

dats my Hillary :D

June 9, 2016 - 07:32

Matthew Ward

He does.

youtube.com/watch?v=HKF-YHxYt5o

June 9, 2016 - 07:33

Ayden Rodriguez

...

June 9, 2016 - 07:38

Joshua Reed

that's not him

June 9, 2016 - 08:06

Noah Bennett

Fuck, it is him!
youtube.com/watch?v=QHVJD7k1km8
elvtárs!

June 9, 2016 - 08:07

Zachary Thompson

I wonder what Bernie is going to demand of Obama as part of a deal during their meeting today.

June 9, 2016 - 08:48

Henry Davis

...

June 9, 2016 - 08:49

Ryder Allen

Bernie Sanders White House press conference soon

youtube.com/watch?v=suzv7-pIjJk

June 9, 2016 - 09:00

Juan Morris

This is sickening. The media is now trying to position themselves as some sort of vanguard against Trump, even though they fucking created him.

June 9, 2016 - 09:03

Elijah Jenkins

see how helpful we are? :^)

June 9, 2016 - 09:05

Aaron Cooper

youtube.com/watch?v=fJdA7dwx6-4

June 9, 2016 - 09:11

Brandon Thomas

...

June 9, 2016 - 09:13

Logan Robinson

realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/06/09/hillary_clinton_sanders_brought_passion_but_hasnt_gotten_me_to_move_on_any_policies.html

Seriously, I have to ask if she is just straight up braindead at this point. How the fuck would anyone in their right mind say this at this point in the campaign? Is she just stupid? It's fucking baffling.

June 9, 2016 - 09:19

Daniel Harris

hubris

June 9, 2016 - 09:25

Leo Ross

Honestly, when I first heard her do the whole 'boo hoo I'm not so good at this politicking thing I've only been doing it for 30 years' I laughed but then I realized it was true and her entire campaign is just awful. Not even the people telling her what to say seem to have their heads on right, who the fuck vilifies a group you're looking to get votes from? I struggle to believe the establishment is really that stupid.

June 9, 2016 - 09:25

Colton Collins

they believe they're entitled to power and find it intolerable to have to appeal to the people

they hate them so much, they can't even conceal their contempt

June 9, 2016 - 09:28

Adrian Edwards

HOLY SHIT TURN ON CNN

June 9, 2016 - 09:31

Jeremiah Williams

bernie coming to give speech RIGHT NOW

June 9, 2016 - 09:34

Austin Baker

wat?

June 9, 2016 - 09:34

Jason Ramirez

ITS FUCKING HAPPENING
FIND A BUNKER QUICK

June 9, 2016 - 09:35

James Kelly

EVERYBODY GET INSIDE!

June 9, 2016 - 09:36

Zachary Perez

BYE BYE HILLARY

June 9, 2016 - 09:38

Isaiah Allen

Bernie confirms he is not dropping out.

Bernie claims that final California vote will show him doing better.

June 9, 2016 - 09:39

John Morgan

There's a fire somewhere.

June 9, 2016 - 09:39

Adam Price

The White House is berning a ho hoh oh o

June 9, 2016 - 09:40

Anthony Collins

There's also going to be a DC rally today. Here's hoping he goes full socialist.

June 9, 2016 - 09:45

Luis Parker

Fuck it, I'll do it, this time!

LINLINKLINK!

June 9, 2016 - 09:45

James Murphy

Pros:
>"Congratulate her on her victorIES
Cons:

Not looking good, but still cautiously hopeful.

June 9, 2016 - 09:48

Robert Watson

ugh

June 9, 2016 - 09:58

Logan Gonzalez

The Media has been making bank off of trump since day one. I have no idea where trumptards got this idea that the media is out to get them.

June 9, 2016 - 10:09

Noah Powell

Apparently Sanders arranged a last minute meeting with Chuck Schumer after Harry Reid, maybe they will give him the leadership after all.

June 9, 2016 - 10:12

Samuel Barnes

He can't mention it without looking like a sore loser, something which he is avoiding by specifically mentioning that he congratulated Shillary. He knows the moment he starts bitching about it, the media is going to dismiss everything he says and focus on "BITTER SANDERS", which will reduce his influence at the convention.

June 9, 2016 - 10:13

Josiah Perez

Also, I might be at the sanders rally tonight.

June 9, 2016 - 10:14

Ayden Rogers

Why Bernie Sanders should build a Tea Party of the left
Right now Bernie Sanders may be sitting on his back porch, leaning on the railing with a cup of tea in his hands as he gazes out across the verdant Vermont landscape and asks himself, "Well, what do I do now?"

He knows he'll have to make some show of unity with Hillary Clinton, and do some campaign events to make sure his supporters get out to vote in the fall. But then what? Is he really going to have a great deal of influence on legislation when he goes back to the Senate? Will Clinton actually take his advice on whom she should appoint to key positions in the administration? How can he translate his remarkable campaign into something lasting?

Here's an idea: Bernie Sanders could lead the Tea Party of the left.

In other words, he could focus his efforts on pulling the Democratic Party leftward, and do so in ruthless ways, by mounting primary campaigns against squishy Democrats in Congress, organizing boisterous rallies against legislation he deems insufficiently liberal, and generally making his party live in fear of him. It may not be the friendliest approach, but it could be the path to maximizing his influence.

Consider what the Tea Party accomplished. Even if its period of maximal impact only lasted a few years, it was one of the most successful movements in recent political history. By knocking off a few incumbents and demanding perfect ideological fealty, it pulled the Republican Party dramatically to the right, both by replacing politicians it didn't like and by making the ones who remained live in terror of its power.

And one of the appealing things about the Tea Party model is that it's centered on elections. This is important for Sanders as he tries to take an electoral campaign and translate it into a movement that can be active over an extended period. Elections are great for gathering people together and motivating them because there's an end date and a clear goal everyone agrees on. It's much easier to get people excited around "Let's win on Tuesday!" than around "Let's put some pressure on the health policy subcommittee so we get good amendments included in the markup and maybe in a few months this bill will on balance be better than it would have otherwise been!"

A Tea Party model could allow Sanders to claim some concrete victories, which can have a considerable impact both in keeping people involved and keeping the rest of the party respectful of his power. Tea partiers realized that primary elections enable you to accomplish a great deal with a relatively small number of people. You don't need a huge national effort to make an impact. Remember when Eric Cantor, then the Republican majority leader, lost his primary in 2014 to a Tea Party challenger? It was a political earthquake that struck fear in the hearts of establishment Republicans everywhere. Barely anyone noticed it was happening before election day, and the winner and now congressman, David Brat, won by getting a mere 36,000 votes.

If the Tea Party has faded today, it's only because its victory was so complete. This year tea partiers could barely find any incumbent Republicans to strike down; North Carolina's Renee Ellmers, who lost Tuesday to a conservative challenger, was the closest thing to an apostate they were able to purge.

And though they certainly didn't get the presidential candidate they wanted, tea partiers always focused their energies more on Congress and local races than on the presidency. That way they could win battles and keep people involved without putting all their chips on one high-profile contest.

There are certainly progressive groups that try to promote the most liberal candidates and criticize compromise from party leaders. But their impact on the Democratic Party as a whole has been modest up until now. Bernie Sanders, however, has the ability (and the mailing list) to unite the kind of voters who supported him around a movement with greater potential to shape the party's future.

But in order to do it, he needs to find a way to keep those supporters excited and motivated, which means clear goals that lead to focused action. Other candidates, like Howard Dean and Barack Obama himself, tried to turn their campaigns into sustained movements and found it extraordinarily difficult. Sanders is almost certainly going to find the same thing. But if he can narrow his focus to putting fear into those Democrats who don't fulfill the liberal vision he and his followers share, he might be able to get somewhere.

archive.is/hMxYZ

June 9, 2016 - 10:15

Dylan Scott

So what? He shouldn't have congratulated Hillary, or agreed to work with "the party" that he only entered for the purpose of avoiding tactical votes.

His purpose isn't to be a "good influence" to the Democrats, his purpose is to act as an invasive species. He shouldn't be trying to work with the Democratic establishment, he should be trying to EXTERMINATE them.

He should be ferociously attacking corrupt vote riggers, naming names publicly and launching legal attacks, getting delegates ejected from the DNC, and getting new ones appointed.

He should be promoting likeminded candidates everywhere he goes, and mounting an assault on every weak rightist, Republican or Democrat.

He shouldn't treat the Democratic Party as something to be fixed, he should treat it as an attack vector on the FPTP two-party system.

June 9, 2016 - 10:27

Andrew Adams

doubt.png

June 9, 2016 - 11:07

Adam Peterson

In the video Obama said he met with Sander's "This week" but he literally met with him an hour ago.

June 9, 2016 - 11:09

Bentley Hernandez

Mind having a source for this, friend?

June 9, 2016 - 11:10

Carter Rodriguez

He just endorsed Clinton though

June 9, 2016 - 11:11

Connor Morris

My b, I meant clinton

June 9, 2016 - 11:11

Hunter Walker

FFS what was the happening?

June 9, 2016 - 11:13

Jeremiah Wilson

Comey is moving to indict tomorrow.

June 9, 2016 - 11:16

Zachary Nelson

What?

June 9, 2016 - 11:18

Landon Baker

source?

June 9, 2016 - 11:19

Jaxson Carter

OPERATION PERESTROIKA STRIKES AGAIN

June 9, 2016 - 11:19

Andrew Green

politico.com/story/2016/06/president-obama-endorses-hillary-clinton-224130?cmpid=sf

maybe not

June 9, 2016 - 11:22

Oliver Stewart

...

June 9, 2016 - 11:23

Cooper Miller

I just realized how Trump is going to win the election and it's fucking killing me.
In the first debate, he's going to call Hillary a cuck. Bill's slept around but she's stayed with him through and through. He's going to win with the cuck memery.

June 9, 2016 - 11:27

Ian Miller

Get off of Holla Forums and I think your opinion will change

June 9, 2016 - 11:29

Christopher Hall

twitter.com/ivancouronne/status/740969143143419905

June 9, 2016 - 11:42

Ryder Gray

I can feel the pain.

June 9, 2016 - 11:45

Andrew Fisher

I know you're memeing right now but you're also kinda right.
The more Trump digs into Clinton with his stupid alpha-male routine the more Clinton will fall back on calling him a sexist/racist/whatever instead of addressing all the stupid policy proposals he's made.
Most working class people don't give a shit about idpol, and if Shillary keeps playing the women card while Trump pretends to care about workers, the democrats will risk losing the working class vote almost entirely.

June 9, 2016 - 11:45

Chase Diaz

He just had a vision of the future Trump presidency.

Why didn't you let him gulag the orange?

June 9, 2016 - 11:47

Adam Brooks

...

June 9, 2016 - 11:49

Hunter Cook

I feel the anger.

June 9, 2016 - 11:52

Brayden Gray

fucking puppet

June 9, 2016 - 11:53

Nicholas King

This is pure classcucking bullshit.

June 9, 2016 - 11:56

Jason Turner

Take it to Philly, comrade.

June 9, 2016 - 11:59

Caleb Allen

nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/06/how-can-hillary-clinton-win-the-bernie-vote.html
archive.is/p49A9
so Jonathan "Liberalism is working" Chiat is now saying that Clinton needs to be more right wing if she wants to win over Bernie supporters.
Are they trying to crash the election?

June 9, 2016 - 12:07

Aiden Murphy

...

June 9, 2016 - 12:32

James Campbell

WHY IS TWITTER SO SHIT

I created an account so i can call out the bourgeoisie Hillary shills, but the moment i create it i get instantly banned for apparent "automated behavior"

fuck, how did they know? What should a comrade do in such a situation

June 9, 2016 - 12:36

Jacob Ramirez

>realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/06/09/hillary_clinton_sanders_brought_passion_but_hasnt_gotten_me_to_move_on_any_policies.html
U N I T E

June 9, 2016 - 12:39

Juan Nguyen

Guys they led Bernie into a trap.

Thanks Obama

June 9, 2016 - 12:39

Lucas Rodriguez

WE CAME, WE SAW, HE DIED
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
CUT IT OUT
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

June 9, 2016 - 12:40

Nolan Ortiz

YES

Post this everywhere. Post it on medium too; it's full of hill shills who will be pissed

June 9, 2016 - 12:41

Nicholas Hill

SHE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS
youtube.com/watch?v=vqYJRc0TJkQ

June 9, 2016 - 12:44

Elijah Russell

CLICKBAIT

June 9, 2016 - 12:46

Robert Ross

>businessinsider.com/clinton-fox-news-interview-email-indictment-fbi-investigation-2016-6

June 9, 2016 - 12:46

Oliver Martin

Trump brutally BTFO by Hillary

In response to President Obama endorsing presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton on Monday, Republican flagbearer Donald Trump used it as an opportunity to take a swipe at his opponent.

While Donald Trump’s tweet amassed over 9,000 retweets, Hillary Clinton had an uncharacteristically brash response that earned her more than 100,000 retweets in less than an hour: she gestured at a classic line used in Twitter arguments and simply said, “Delete your account.”

twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/740973710593654784

rt.com/usa/346028-clinton-trump-delete-twitter/

June 9, 2016 - 12:54

Nicholas Nelson

Can't wait for the Holla Forums butthurt in a couple months time.

The biggest sperg out known to man.

June 9, 2016 - 12:56

Landon Robinson

Clinton's PR working the crowd.

June 9, 2016 - 12:56

Anthony Ramirez

technology was a mistake.

June 9, 2016 - 12:57

Brody Watson

that's about the only positive thing I can imagine if Hillary wins

June 9, 2016 - 13:00

Mason Morgan

okay that was pretty savage
she's still an insufferable cunt

June 9, 2016 - 13:00

Hudson Morales

Holy shit I can't believe the 27 year old running that twitter account said something that hardcore

June 9, 2016 - 13:02

Nicholas Howard

Debord was right. We didn't listen.

June 9, 2016 - 13:06

William Morris

we /int/ now

June 9, 2016 - 13:07

Connor Gutierrez

ALL PART OF THE MASTER PLAN

June 9, 2016 - 13:13

Brody Phillips

...

June 9, 2016 - 13:20

Charles Wright

Pretty good for an underpaid intern

June 9, 2016 - 13:21

Joshua Johnson

I simultaneously want and dread the possible future of all political discussion basically reaching the point of imageboard shitposting.

June 9, 2016 - 13:23

Jason Myers

wew

June 9, 2016 - 13:23

Benjamin Hall

That comeback is low-energy. Sad!

June 9, 2016 - 13:24

Evan Gray

what a mess

June 9, 2016 - 13:32

Connor Bennett

Vote Comrades

poal.me/p89ch4

June 9, 2016 - 13:33

Elijah Parker

DELET THIS

June 9, 2016 - 13:36

Dominic Hall

Google always has creeped me the fuck out…

youtu.be/PFxFRqNmXKg

June 9, 2016 - 13:38

Ethan White

Fuck this election

June 9, 2016 - 13:41

Alexander Garcia

my god, what have we done.

June 9, 2016 - 13:42

Aiden Baker

Probably.

Because it's owned by porkies, duh.

No.

CUCK THIS ELECTION!
U
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T
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I
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E
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!

June 9, 2016 - 13:47

Benjamin Anderson

Holy shit it's true

That's so fucked up

June 9, 2016 - 13:48

Owen Kelly

I cannot wait. My boy Bernie may have lost but I will at least see alt-right lose even harder.

June 9, 2016 - 13:55

Ryan Cruz

Google is basically a new arm of the government.

June 9, 2016 - 13:59

Brayden Rodriguez

2016, everybody.

June 9, 2016 - 13:59

Owen King

fixed

June 9, 2016 - 14:00

Kevin Fisher

CALL HER A CUCK TRUMP. CALL HER A CUCK

June 9, 2016 - 14:00

Landon Ward

...

June 9, 2016 - 14:02

Owen Gutierrez

Wow, what a weak reply. His campaign is going down the tubes so fast.

June 9, 2016 - 14:03

Aiden Moore

This is a good sign… soon they're gonna just go full Holla Forums tier. This is gonna be a fun election

June 9, 2016 - 14:05

Jeremiah Ward

Yeah, but will boycotting ever work.

I smells shilling.

commies 4 trump ¯\(ツ)/¯

June 9, 2016 - 14:06

Logan Perry

I want to die.

June 9, 2016 - 14:06

Hudson Gonzalez

Nope.

June 9, 2016 - 14:08

Robert Adams

This election is a crying shame

The only choice is armed proletarian revolution

June 9, 2016 - 14:08

Grayson Bailey

...

June 9, 2016 - 14:09

Logan Cox

This is going to be the most insufferable general election of all time.

June 9, 2016 - 14:09

Landon Thomas

ree

June 9, 2016 - 14:10

Aaron Cox

How dare Hillary make fun of Trump! After all, fellow leftists, Trump is basically a communist just like us! We should all vote for him, that'll show her.

June 9, 2016 - 14:10

Josiah Fisher

Yeah it has. Turnout was shit, naturally.
democratas2016.ceepur.org/

P H U G

June 9, 2016 - 14:10

David Green

I can sense this site is being cucked. Oh boy.

June 9, 2016 - 14:11

William Mitchell

Upvoted

June 9, 2016 - 14:14

Matthew Thompson

I just want to see the world burn sometimes, I guess.

I think I'll keep this flag. Until I'm bored.

If it also mean showing up Holla Forums I wouldn't mind honestly.

June 9, 2016 - 14:16

Nathan Cox

post yfw you realize this will only get worse over the next 5 months

June 9, 2016 - 14:18

Grayson Miller

At the rally

June 9, 2016 - 14:21

Andrew Rodriguez

One day in and already this is the worst general election of all time. We're not even at the convention yet.

June 9, 2016 - 14:22

Juan Stewart

that's the dialectic at work tbh

June 9, 2016 - 14:30

Dylan Phillips

The things in a skatepark, maybe a thousand tops. Gave a quote to a times reporter.

June 9, 2016 - 14:31

Cooper Peterson

is idpol finally burning itself out?

June 9, 2016 - 14:32

Liam Hall

Here's hoping…

June 9, 2016 - 14:47

Easton Myers

Why do people bother making these infographs?

June 9, 2016 - 14:48

Jaxson Reed

obligatory now

June 9, 2016 - 15:00

Logan Taylor

...

June 9, 2016 - 15:07

James James

The lying is real. Muh reez.

June 9, 2016 - 15:13

Angel Evans

I've completely tuned out to all mainstream media. Most people throughout this election cycle so far have gotten to know themselves, how far gone it is, too. I take some comfort in that.

June 9, 2016 - 15:13

Thomas Williams

...

June 9, 2016 - 15:18

Hudson Stewart

It's for the best. No one should trust mainstream media.

June 9, 2016 - 15:23

Isaiah Bell

If anything Hillary's victory (and Bernie's craven support) is the apotheosis of idpol in the Democrat party.

Enjoy the TPP, an even more hawkish foreign policy, and yet more Wall Street bailouts and the media fawning over how Hillary's latest sick burn to Republican opponents is real progress

June 9, 2016 - 15:35

Jackson Rogers

...

June 9, 2016 - 15:35

Blake Harris

If you read the whole statement she released (not going to link or even screenshot that trash) she uses the EXACT language Bernie used during his campaign while talking about campaign finance reform.

June 9, 2016 - 15:39

Hudson Ortiz

she is a political robot

June 9, 2016 - 15:43

Easton Nguyen

Im starting to get unironically triggered tbh

June 9, 2016 - 15:43

Jackson Murphy

Even the alt-right leader ramzpaul is furious about hillary clinton

youtube.com/watch?v=tPZj4Olc1Uo

June 9, 2016 - 15:43

Camden Torres

First as tragedy.
Then as farce

June 9, 2016 - 15:47

Ethan Thompson

Make it stop

June 9, 2016 - 15:48

Josiah Anderson

...

June 9, 2016 - 15:49

Leo Hernandez

Holy shit that guy is spooked.

June 9, 2016 - 15:49

Jason Ramirez

Nightmare material.

June 9, 2016 - 15:49

Logan Young

8 WAYS HILLARY JUST ROASTED TRUMP! YOU GO GIRL!

June 9, 2016 - 15:52

Bentley Richardson

It's gamergate all over again.

A media circus designed to spook people to the right in sheer anger, while mindless liberals gobble it up.

It's time to unplug, friends.

June 9, 2016 - 15:57

Kevin Jones

6 MORE MONTHS OF THIS

June 9, 2016 - 15:59

Ian Campbell

This is what Hell looks like.

June 9, 2016 - 16:03

Caleb Roberts

OOOH SHITT

June 9, 2016 - 16:05

Oliver Robinson

christ it was an okay burn don't take it so sero-
this is my life now

June 9, 2016 - 16:05

Carter Long

CAN'T WAKE UP

Hillary and Trump. I don't know what to do anymore. The slick entryist nearly saved us, but he was stabbed in the back,

What do we do now? Seriously, what's our best course of action?

June 9, 2016 - 16:10

Ian Brown

epic meemz matter more than policy now

June 9, 2016 - 16:10

Charles Brooks

Midterms are what matter the most. We shouldn't let this momentum die out. If it does, we are truly cucked.

June 9, 2016 - 16:11

Dominic Turner

what could we have done to deserve this

June 9, 2016 - 16:12

Liam Bailey

It isn't us, it's idpol/spooks/munz.

June 9, 2016 - 16:13

Jonathan Davis

2nd Civil War when?

June 9, 2016 - 16:14

Landon Wood

Though who do we have for mid terms?

Bernie was crafting his entryist plan years, who else do we have like that? Warren is a fake, Stein is too radical for the general population, and would Bernie still have it in him in 4 years?

Who else do we have that can harness this momentum?

Perhaps Bernie could become head of senate, or maybe he could accept Steins offer–though there is far to much pressure on him to be able to do that.

Who else do we have?

June 9, 2016 - 16:16

Carson Wilson

it's coming

June 9, 2016 - 16:16

Brody Nguyen

Ron Paul

June 9, 2016 - 16:17

Jace Bailey

His tweet after California was quite touching

June 9, 2016 - 16:19

Evan Reyes

Where did all the Hillary supporters go?

June 9, 2016 - 16:24

Ryder Price

In the gulags :^)

June 9, 2016 - 16:25

Bentley Powell

ГУЛАГ

June 9, 2016 - 16:26

Mason Young

...

June 9, 2016 - 16:30

Luis Torres

Panama.

June 9, 2016 - 16:31

Isaac Edwards

See, look you sexist Berniebros. He brought her more to the left. :^)

June 9, 2016 - 16:48

Noah Rivera

;_;

June 9, 2016 - 16:56

Lucas Young

you feel it too don't you?

June 9, 2016 - 17:01

Leo Collins

8/10, made me reply even though it's obvious bait

June 9, 2016 - 17:01

Michael Jones

So now Bernie folds and is now a good boy to Hillary, what does Holla Forums think?

June 9, 2016 - 17:02

David Lee

Only reason he's doing that is to get a better position in the Senate. If it was me, I'd blast every one of those crooks and call out the election fraud that ruined democracy.

I'm really tempted to use "cuck" if Bernie quietly returns to the senate without rightfully slamming Crooked Hillary and the whole Democrooked party.

June 9, 2016 - 17:05

Bentley Kelly

You got an excuse for everything Bernie does, don't you?

I guess now you will support Hillary too since it *can* get Bernie somewhere.

June 9, 2016 - 17:09

Samuel Phillips

That is the look of a man who is about to be crucified. He dared to dream and now the DNC is going to make him pay for it. That's what all of those meetings where about.

His supporters make up almost half of the Democratic electorate. Hillary needs those votes to win the presidency, so they're going to force him to sell-out in a foolish attempt to save their soulless candidate.

If Bernie ever needed our support, now is the time.

June 9, 2016 - 17:09

Josiah Green

There's still hope. The big weak spot is that the Sanders campaign itself isn't pushing for justice against election riggers, so we have to do that ourselves.
electionjusticeusa.org/
trustvote.org/

June 9, 2016 - 17:10

Connor Hill

Did you read the post? I'm never supporting Hillary. I don't know why Bernie would support her unless he was strong-armed or bribed with a better job.

What do we do, tell him to resist the evil powers that be?

June 9, 2016 - 17:13

Noah Thompson

Or he was weak-willed as usual.

He realize going against Hillary would make him lose the thing he has right now.

June 9, 2016 - 17:16

William Myers

Head of Senate while his supports build our version of the Tea Party outside of Congress.

June 9, 2016 - 17:17

Camden Harris

Breddy gud. Txh m8.

I'm getting spooked

June 9, 2016 - 17:25

Ryder Robinson

reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4ncjr6/id_rather_vote_for_something_i_want_and_not_get/

June 9, 2016 - 17:30

Grayson Sanders

people give berniefags shit for being essentially reactionary socdems, but I feel like with a little pushing they could become actual socialists

June 9, 2016 - 17:44

Lincoln Hughes

I'm basically a berniefag and I've been further pushed to the left by this, though then again I also have an anarcho syndicalist friend who has attempted to radicalize me for the past 3 years

June 9, 2016 - 17:48

Brayden Williams

...

June 9, 2016 - 17:49

Oliver Kelly

That's why I despise those who make kneejerk denouncements of campaigns like Sander's, they actively deny the radicalisation and window pushing potential of these sorts of movements. They are under this deranged notion that you can just shout about da boozjwah and throw copies of DasKap at people and they'll break out of their ideological cage by themselves.

June 9, 2016 - 17:51

Michael Richardson

I know. It's hopeless. The only end result of this I can see is fascism. It feels bad man.

June 9, 2016 - 17:53

Cameron Murphy

I have similar sentiments. TPP also had a part in it.

June 9, 2016 - 17:56

Hudson Hughes

Don't forget all the fucking fraud that's gone on this primary.

June 9, 2016 - 17:59

Ryder Hughes

Any county in gold must be purged

June 9, 2016 - 18:03

Xavier Mitchell

Warren just endorsed Clinton.

June 9, 2016 - 18:04

Hunter Phillips

Source?

June 9, 2016 - 18:04

Isaac Rogers

fuck this faggot shithole

June 9, 2016 - 18:04

Levi Scott

Why are there so many lefties in the pacific northwest? Is it the weather and nice scenery?

June 9, 2016 - 18:05

Cooper King

...

June 9, 2016 - 18:05

Christian Parker

they look sort of similar from that angle lmao

June 9, 2016 - 18:06

Jose Sullivan

snake in the grass

June 9, 2016 - 18:07

Logan Robinson

She's going to be her VP in an attempt to win over Bernie's base. I hope it doesn't work.

June 9, 2016 - 18:07

Anthony Baker

I am so, so smug that I moved to Hawaii before the hipsteratti plague destroyed central California.

June 9, 2016 - 18:11

Jeremiah King

Probably left redneck spooks I guess.

June 9, 2016 - 18:12

Lincoln Sanders

kill me
we were supposed to be the vanguard of the revolution

June 9, 2016 - 18:14

James Morris

There's still like 3 million votes to be counted there my dude

June 9, 2016 - 18:15

Nathaniel Miller

CIVIL WAR NOW

SOUTH VS NORTH

June 9, 2016 - 18:15

Gavin Kelly

Why didn't we want the South to secede again?

June 9, 2016 - 18:16

Kevin King

Not letting the south succeed was a mistake. Sherman did nothing wrong.

June 9, 2016 - 18:16

Michael Morgan

Why spongegar though? Like why did you pick that image to express your distaste?

June 9, 2016 - 18:17

John Perry

arming the socialist revolution would be some 10/10 shit

June 9, 2016 - 18:18

Luke Barnes

...

June 9, 2016 - 18:20

Landon Walker

Fucking coward.

June 9, 2016 - 18:20

Nolan Turner

...

June 9, 2016 - 18:20

Brayden Nguyen

WHAT DOES IT MEAN?!?!
WHAT. DOES. IT. MEAN.

June 9, 2016 - 18:23

Nicholas Hill

time for sanders to use those militia connections

latintimes.com/bernie-sanders-supported-border-vigilante-minutemen-group-symbolic-2006-vote-357705

June 9, 2016 - 18:25

Evan Phillips

...

June 9, 2016 - 18:27

Aiden Parker

wat

June 9, 2016 - 18:31

Connor Martin

I'm just about done lads. These people have no sense of irony

June 9, 2016 - 18:31

Logan Wright

It's called manufacturing a narrative lad.

June 9, 2016 - 18:32

Parker Morales

Seriously everyone.

Do you really think that a man who has been against the establishment his entire career would "fall in line" after a clearly weighted primary that looked almost designed to work against him?

Do you really think a man who has been fighting for the poor and working class his entire life would give up on them when things got rough?

Do you really think a man who has railed against income and wealth inequality for decades would trust Hillary Clinton, of all people, to take the fight to Wall Street and Big Business?

Do you really think a man who has cared about the lives of veterans and active duty servicemen and women would trust a warhawk like Hillary Clinton to lead the United States in the direction of peace when peace is what we need most right now?

Do you really think a man who has collected hundreds of millions of dollars from regular, everyday Americans, would just give up, drop out, and endorse the literal poster woman of the establishment?

Do you really think a man that has vowed to fight for every last vote (including superdelegates) would renege on his promise when times are difficult?

Do you really think a man who has said numerous times that we are going to the convention no matter what, would go back on that promise all of a sudden?

Do you really think Bernie is stupid enough to believe that changing the Democratic Party platform is any sort of guarantee that the establishment will actually pursue that platform in Washington?

Bernie knows things we don't know. And it probably relates to Hillary Clinton's FBI investigation. I bet Obama knows things we don't know as well.

We promised to stay in this fight until the convention and beyond. We've gotten Berniecrats elected all over the nation, and we're fundraising for many more.

Bernie is going to that convention for a reason. A lot can happen between now and July.

Do you really think the State Department's ridiculously harsh critique of Clinton's conduct as Secretary of State will not have implications in what the FBI reveal at the end of an investigation that is over a year long?
Seriously?

Do you seriously believe that it would take the FBI over a year to find out that Clinton didn't break any laws?
Get real.

Respect the man's intelligence. He can see the same things we've been seeing in regards to things like voter purges, the FBI investigation updates, the dirty establishment tricks against him. He knows what we know and then some.

Everything he has done until this point has been to galvanize a movement. It would have put us in no better a position right now for him to have gone full on attack mode from day one, to start calling out the fraud and voter purges, to start railing against long entrenched Democrats in a harsh manner. He's built an image, and now that the House of Cards is going to tumble down, he'll have the resources he needs to build a newer, more beautiful home for us all.

Things are just getting interesting. Get your popcorn ready, I'll see you in Philadelphia.
reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4n9axg/bernie_knows_things_we_dont_know_wipe_those_tears/

June 9, 2016 - 18:37

Blake Barnes

...

June 9, 2016 - 18:42

Ryder Allen

JUST

June 9, 2016 - 19:05

Lucas Collins

Cenk seems so clueless. He kept rationalizing it in that video "oh but things will probably change when we find out how scary Trump is!". Hey dumbshit, Hillary is just as scary.

June 9, 2016 - 19:07

Josiah Martinez

...

June 9, 2016 - 19:11

Ethan Wright

fuck yes

June 9, 2016 - 19:16

Noah Mitchell

CENK IS A MESS

June 9, 2016 - 19:18

Josiah Smith

CENK IS A WASTE

June 9, 2016 - 19:21

Aaron Walker

cenk is a well spoken moron

In other news, Alex Johnes channel claims they have inside info on Bernie's meeting with Obama:
Sanders Turned Down VP Position

June 9, 2016 - 19:22

Justin Allen

HE IS SO WEAK

June 9, 2016 - 19:23

Carson Wood

PLEASE SIGN

movement4bernie.org/?o=9

June 9, 2016 - 19:27

Brandon Bell

If Infowars claimed the sky was blue I would have to look outside to check.

Based berniebros
Crashing this Election

June 9, 2016 - 19:32

Jaxon Bennett

strawpoll.me/10444547

June 9, 2016 - 19:44

Asher Cook

Kshama lowkey calling out capitalism

June 9, 2016 - 19:48

Noah Martinez

Truth. I bet the D.C. rally is going to be epic.

Look at that shit. Look at it. The DNC are going to throw away millions of votes this election. MILLIONS. No amount of Elizabeth Warrens is going fix this.

Philly is going to be an amazing circus.

June 9, 2016 - 20:02

Isaac Sanchez

All this is true, but one important fact remains: The Sanders campaign hasn't directly taken part in any of the legal actions against electoral fraud, and Sanders himself hasn't openly decried any of the blatant misconduct.

The one and only chance Sanders' supporters have any direct influence in, not the superdelegates, not the FBI, but us, is recounts. Sanders has dropped the ball, so we must throw all our support behind organizations that actually are attempting to carry it.

BERN BABY, BURN!

June 9, 2016 - 20:29

Xavier Jackson

Alex Jones: This is election fraud. Hillary has stolen the election from Bernie.

youtube.com/watch?v=UWBdu3Fsumw

June 9, 2016 - 20:34

Aaron Green

Trump is apparently cozyying up to Kissinger

archive.is/YGXh3

June 9, 2016 - 20:36

Gavin Sullivan

theintercept.com/2016/06/09/hillary-clintons-state-department-gave-south-sudans-military-a-pass-for-its-child-soldiers/
So Hillary Clinton's state department was actually funding child soldiers in Africa.
I kinda want to spread this around social media just to see how hillbots react.

June 9, 2016 - 20:38

Michael Evans

That's a fucking stupid idea. Kill yourself.

Read this guys.

Not gonna happen. Even if Bernie got 2.5 million extra votes and Clinton got 500,000 it would just put him closer to the delegate gap 8 years ago.

June 9, 2016 - 20:41

Luis Wilson

Why are you salty?

June 9, 2016 - 20:51

Gabriel Hernandez

Welp.
washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/06/09/puerto-rico-fiscal-rescue-is-poised-to-pass-house-as-july-deadline-looms/
I'll just go kill myself now.
It still has to pass the Senate and the President still has to sign it, but the latter will 100% happen.

June 9, 2016 - 20:52

Austin Wood

What are the implications of this?

June 9, 2016 - 20:55

Nathan Sullivan

I guess you haven't been paying attention to my incessant bickerings about this bill? Whatever.

Basically it creates a federal board to manage Puerto Rico's economy (not politely provide suggestions, MANAGE. Like a company) in almost exactly the same fashion the Soviets would use to control the economies of their satellite states. The officials are appointed some by Barry O'Bama and some by Mitch McConnell (hur hur hibernians etc.), not democratically, and the government of Puerto Rico gets no say in any of this and certainly not in the Congressional voting process because we don't get any representation. The hope is that if we stomp our feet hard enough we'll get some concessions.

Pedro Pierluisi, our non-voting delegate, is a complete moron and shill and recently talked to Obama about supporting the bill, which he was probably going to do anyway. Hopefully Obama gets some sense knocked into him and says he'll veto it for enough concessions or we cause a big enough stir to convince the senate not to pass it.

Kill me.

June 9, 2016 - 21:03

Thomas Rogers

Truth,

Does this mean more of a chance of killing TPP?

June 9, 2016 - 21:59

Ayden Adams

So, basically like Michigan's "emergency manager" corporate city dictatorships, but for the equivalent of an entire state?

June 9, 2016 - 22:11

Jaxon Gutierrez

So, sorry if this has been asked already but, with that recent statement he made about "working with Hillary to stop trump" that…that doesn't mean he's capitulating to her r-right? He's still taking ti all the way to the convention in Philly right? RIGHT ?

June 10, 2016 - 00:28

Grayson Moore

he specifically did not endorse her so yes he's going to the convention.
Plus the White House just called the email stuff a "criminal investigation" so indictment is still on the table

June 10, 2016 - 00:34

Chase James

Exactly.

June 10, 2016 - 00:54

Nicholas Harris

By the way, the White House's spokesman recently called the FBI thing a "criminal investigation". And I read on Reddit that the director of the FBI has been trying to put the Clintons behind bars since Whitewater. Plus that thing on CNN supposedly about how the FBI will move to indict tomorrow which I couldn't find on the internet.
It's totally happening, you guys. The only thing that can stop it is Loretta Lynch or Obama stopping it, and the FBI has threatened to go public instead.

June 10, 2016 - 01:06

Brody Kelly

I don't want to start any false hope but imagining Shittery Clinton (because she poops her pants) getting fired because she's convicted gives me warm and fuzzy feelings.

June 10, 2016 - 01:50

Easton Carter

No, class war. Us vs them. There are class conscious southies such as myself. There are people in Kentucky, West Virginia for instance who would love to overthrow/take back the government.

Burn them in their mansions. Take what's rightfully ours.

This election has radicalized me. Before I just hated the government. Now I'd love to play a part in overthrowing it.

June 10, 2016 - 02:50

Mason Sullivan

Anyone?

June 10, 2016 - 04:01

Grayson Lopez

Oh, if they're true progressives then of course it means less chance of the TPP.

But people really need to research the candidates, because there are some fuckfaces who are tea partiers basically, pretending to be endorsed by Bernie to get elected; using his popularity. The Humanist Report I believe did a video about one, lemme find it..
youtube.com/watch?v=Ld9LxzNRYqE
Dirty shit. I really wish more people would just do simple research on candidates.

June 10, 2016 - 04:08

Brody Miller

V will probably take the bait. It's smells like it was planned…

June 10, 2016 - 04:27

Jace Phillips

IF YOU LIVE IN PHILADELPHIA READ THIS AND PLEASE GO

truthdig.com/report/item/shut_down_the_democratic_national_convention_20160605

June 10, 2016 - 04:57

Oliver Rivera

shit got real

June 10, 2016 - 06:10

Brandon Long

CPUSA:' Clinton makes history'
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeEEEeeeeeEEeEEEEEEeeEEEeEEE

June 10, 2016 - 06:31

Cameron Cook

Was he the faggot that got really butthurt because of the black bloc at occupy?

June 10, 2016 - 06:35

Leo Garcia

Hedges has been pretty real from the start but he's really been going all in lately. I don't blame him. We're running out of time to build up a sufficient civil disobedience movement centered on working class, environmental and actual student issues. If Sanders deflates after the Convention I'm worried that the fervor currently existing is going to die down and we'll just end up in a similar situation to the last 8 years or we'll have a Trump presidency with little opposition.

Hedges has come a long way since then IMO

I WAS MORE INTERESTED IN SPREADING INFO ABOUT THE MARCH SO PLEASE SHARE AND IF YOU ARE IN THE AREA ATTEND AND RAISE DAT CLASS CONSCIOUSNESS COMR8s

June 10, 2016 - 06:39

Bentley Cooper

hey, here's hoping we have a proper march
that might inspire something good to happen in the convention

June 10, 2016 - 06:43

Jose Evans

...

June 10, 2016 - 06:48

Hudson Cook

Doesn't it feel good to be on the right side of history?

June 10, 2016 - 06:49

Logan Mitchell

I'm mainly hoping it happens to pressure Sanders not to give in or get talked into becoming a full blown shill and also because any genuine, bottom up pressure on the establishment is good imo.

On the other hand I just want to see all the Shillbots get even more butthurt then they already are after the Nevada convention

June 10, 2016 - 06:49

Gabriel Cooper

The good thing is that if he responds with solidarity towards the protesters and gets pressure to go third party or otherwise support something outside the system, his movement will stay organized whereas if he buckles and goes full faggot shill it'll be less organized but people will be even more pumped up and angry about the corrupting power of the system. There's pretty much no lose state here, so long as we keep the energy up.

June 10, 2016 - 06:57

Levi Jenkins

I'd like to go. I don't live nearby but I'd happily drive across states to get there. Was going to make a sign, with #HillaryForPrison & #BernieOrBust or something similar across the top and a QR code on the body. I want the QR code to link to something people can read to show them why. What's a normie-friendly source on what's wrong with Hillary?

June 10, 2016 - 07:00

Christopher Butler

He was right tho. This is completely different.

June 10, 2016 - 07:06

Michael Anderson

scribd.com/doc/300459389/The-Definitive-Case-for-Why-Hillary-Clinton-is-the-Wrong-Choice-And-Bernie-is-the-Right-One

do it nigga now is the time

June 10, 2016 - 07:38

Cameron Green

notice Chairman Dore shouting at Cenk Burguy

June 10, 2016 - 07:41

Connor Green

FUCKING PHILEA-EECH

June 10, 2016 - 07:44

James Lewis

It's almost like in my country, Greece.

June 10, 2016 - 07:46

Matthew Rodriguez

Jimmy is so fun to watch, even if he's a little much of a liberal faggot at times.

June 10, 2016 - 07:47

David Gonzalez

He's the only member of TYT except Kulinski who isn't afraid to be a boistrous and fun. Everyone else just wants to seem super serious and composed which is dumb

June 10, 2016 - 07:49

Sebastian Morales

I want to fuck Ana Kasparin in the mouth so bad

June 10, 2016 - 07:50

Jackson Ramirez

He's still the most to the left from the staff.

June 10, 2016 - 07:50

Ian Ortiz

they know it's coming

June 10, 2016 - 08:09

Adam Campbell

>reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4nfdp7/already_1_million_ballots_have_been_declared/
wew lads

June 10, 2016 - 08:12

Anthony Ross

Protests Planned for the Democratic National Convention
philly.com/philly/news/politics/381839451.html

June 10, 2016 - 08:13

Brayden Davis

Jimmy is a pro-gun-control liberal faggot.

danke comrade

June 10, 2016 - 08:25

Adam Fisher

in that case trump is a liberal you stupid faggot

June 10, 2016 - 08:31

Anthony Jenkins

lol ok

June 10, 2016 - 08:34

Ayden King

To be fair he's also deep into the idpol stuff, he's pretty liberal but that doesn't mean he can't eventually end up being a proper leftist.

June 10, 2016 - 08:38

Juan Bailey

Not that the entirety of TYT don't deserve some quality time with reeducation through labor in the gulags, but can you name any big names on the left today who AREN'T antifun idpol liberal faggots?

June 10, 2016 - 09:06

Blake Gutierrez

Puerto Greco

June 10, 2016 - 09:23

Ryder Cox

THE BERNIEBROS AREN'T BRINGING THEIR BEST! THEY'RE BRINGING HARASSMENT, THEY'RE BRINGING COMMUNIST THOUGHTS! WE HAVE TO BUILD A FENCE

June 10, 2016 - 09:27

Jackson Jackson

I AM A FISH

I… SWIM AROUND

June 10, 2016 - 10:58

Anthony Morris

SHE'S SO BRAVE AND COURAGEOUS

June 10, 2016 - 11:24

Hudson Wilson

CPUSA is a mess

June 10, 2016 - 11:31

Mason Reyes

JUST

June 10, 2016 - 11:33

Nathaniel Gray

The very definition of Democrat entryists.

Also Lucero saying "Mugabe was a socialist comrade" and other stupid shit like that, makes me sad they are the biggest communist party in the US.

June 10, 2016 - 11:44

Gabriel Brown

Fucking hilarious & hypocritical.

BRING YOUR WIRE-CUTTERS BOYS!

June 10, 2016 - 12:23

Jace Adams

>youtube.com/watch?v=x7VSkwDwfOI
skip to :40 and 1:40 for him to start bullshitting

June 10, 2016 - 12:25

Levi Davis

It's an FBI front/honeypot. What do you expect.

June 10, 2016 - 12:27

Mason Bell

He later admitted that he saw undercover federal agents dressing as black bloc members and were instigating violence.

I think the past couple of years has changed his perspective on political violence. I don't know if he condones it as much as he sees it as an inevitability at this point.

June 10, 2016 - 12:29

Mason Cruz

Oh my god. This PROMESA is like the cruelest joke ever played. Fucking Luis Fortuño, THE GOVERNOR WHO CRASHED OUR ECONOMY THROUGH INACTION, may be the chairman of the FCB.
He tried to destroy Puerto Ricos environmental resources so his buddies could build public shit to "create jobs" like 4 times, never reformed our shitty tax code and blew up the debt. And now he might be in charge of fixing it. He only won one term. Can you fucking believe this shit?
Public-private partnerships are a huge problem in Puerto Rico and the culmination of crony capitalism.
Don't let this happen to your country. Unless you're Greece. Or Michigan. If you're not one of us, take notes. This is what neoliberals want long term. Technocratic fascism. It's why they love PPPs so much, why they hate whistleblowers and protesters so much, and what their emphasis on deregulation boils down to. And this is why that technocratic namefag can fuck off.

June 10, 2016 - 12:30

Christopher Gray

Solidarity, comrade

June 10, 2016 - 12:33

Ryder Allen

I'm surprised there aren't people out on the streets over this.

June 10, 2016 - 12:34

Isaiah Scott

puppet

June 10, 2016 - 12:46

John Green

I don't know much about them, but what do technocrats have to do with it?
'

June 10, 2016 - 12:52

Ryan White

Delete Holla Forums.

June 10, 2016 - 12:58

Christian Peterson

DELETE THE WORLD

June 10, 2016 - 13:20

Brody Stewart

...

June 10, 2016 - 13:26

Elijah Gutierrez

I swear to God I am living in some sort of comedy Truman Show

June 10, 2016 - 13:30

Adam Reyes

I can't go to the convention, but here's a sign idea

COME ON COMEY
SEND HER HOME-Y

June 10, 2016 - 13:34

Julian Harris

I hope this pisses off V. I hope there's a shitstorm like none would ever believe.

June 10, 2016 - 13:37

Jeremiah Jenkins

youtube.com/watch?v=tkRKOIWiFsI

Democracy Now! is a great news source, imo.

"As California Admits 2 Million Ballots Remain Uncounted, Sanders Pushes for Changing Primary Process"

They also speak on the TPP.

June 10, 2016 - 13:53

Grayson Reyes

reddit.com/r/BernTheConvention/comments/4ng18d/are_any_of_you_concerned_with_fbi_infiltration/

June 10, 2016 - 13:56

Jace Sullivan

that's concerning.
I can't say it's something they wouldn't do.

June 10, 2016 - 14:01

Carter Long

...

June 10, 2016 - 14:09

Liam Taylor

That sub is swarmed with /r/ess posters, look through their historys.

June 10, 2016 - 14:11

Alexander Mitchell

/r/ess?

June 10, 2016 - 14:14

Adrian Reed

Hillary's correct the record superpac on reddit.

June 10, 2016 - 14:16

Oliver Rivera

what

June 10, 2016 - 14:19

Landon Rivera

Guys what is up with her head movements at the beginning of this video.

It's lovecraftian

June 10, 2016 - 14:20

Jordan Flores

She began to channel Nytharlop for a moment.

June 10, 2016 - 14:22

Noah Wood

Be careful, they get pretty salty though when you do

June 10, 2016 - 14:22

Liam Phillips

There's some capitalist dark magic in those cold lattes

June 10, 2016 - 14:22

Adam Cox

/r/enoughsandersspam

June 10, 2016 - 14:23

Anthony Price

Nyarlathotep is already being channeled through Donald Trump

June 10, 2016 - 14:25

Tyler Garcia

/r/EnoughSandersSpam is a subreddit run by the "Fempire" Reddit SJW cabal as a staging ground for Hitlary's paid astroturfer shills and indoctrinated goons to launch attacks against pro-Sanders subreddits.

June 10, 2016 - 14:25

Nathaniel Gomez

Ah, that's how you spell it. I don't really know my Lovecraft entities too well.

Who is Hillary channeling? Yog-Sothoth?

June 10, 2016 - 14:28

Matthew Jones

Correct the record is one of Hillary's massive superpacs that specialize in shilling on social media such as reddit, twitter, facebook, various news sites, etc.

It's not even a conspiracy theory, it's a true fact and that are extremely active

June 10, 2016 - 14:28

Henry Sanders

Perhaps Shub-Niggurath

June 10, 2016 - 14:30

Chase Reyes

They've also infiltrated the moderation of /r/politics. They recently decided to ban all "state sponsored news sources" (e.g. TeleSUR) because so much of it exposes the truth about Hillary.

June 10, 2016 - 14:31

Jackson Campbell

snoopsnoo.com/r/enoughsandersspam

How?

June 10, 2016 - 14:31

Juan Clark

Are they banning PBS too? NPR?

June 10, 2016 - 14:34

Nathaniel Diaz

Nope, the official list of banned sources is: kcna.kp, kcna.co.jp, naenara.com.kp, presstv.ir, telesurtv.net, sputniknews.com, rt.com, and all associated sites and Youtube channels

June 10, 2016 - 14:36

Samuel Stewart

Fucking lol

June 10, 2016 - 14:37

Jeremiah Wood

They banned russia today? What the absolute fuck

June 10, 2016 - 14:38

David Gray

It gets better: the reason stated for the ban is because "they manipulate the US electorate" with "half-truths."

June 10, 2016 - 14:39

Matthew Miller

Only pro-Freedom™ channels are permitted here, fellow citizen.

June 10, 2016 - 14:40

Colton Perez

what. the. fuck. is her problem?

June 10, 2016 - 14:44

Dominic Williams

HAPPENING?

June 10, 2016 - 14:56

Wyatt Richardson

Also, Obama met with Loretta Lynch after meeting with Bernie. Very peculiar.

June 10, 2016 - 14:58

Kayden Turner

Speaking of /r/ess/, I've either somehow earned the ire of another French Clinton supporter, or the first one is now responding to some of my posts with a sockpuppet account

June 10, 2016 - 15:07

Tyler Cook

give me the skinny user, whats your theory?

June 10, 2016 - 15:15

Camden Cooper

What if our existance is only a simulation run by extrememly advanced aliens in order to see how shit the world would have been if they had never achieved communism?

June 10, 2016 - 15:16

Connor Jones

Same goes for reddit.com/r/EnoughHIllarySpam/, which is probably run by the same people

June 10, 2016 - 15:17

Ian Anderson

I'd love to believe that Obama, Comey and Lynch are running the long con against Clinton and the Clinton Foundation and are about to hit her with the biggest FICO case of the 21st century.

But in reality, he probably told Lynch not to prosecute Clinton because it would destroy party unity and morale and allow Trump to win, etc. If this is the case, one wonders what Obama is getting from Clinton in return.

June 10, 2016 - 15:25

Connor Jenkins

Well I'm going to have to paraphrase descartes here and say "that wouldn't happen because aliens are inherently good". I mean that was his solution to the Evil Demon, which is basically the same shit. Though he thought it was god that was good, not aliens.
DESCARTIAN POSADISM WHEN?

June 10, 2016 - 15:25

Nathan Gutierrez

youtube.com/watch?v=qECf3J4TZqE

June 10, 2016 - 15:27

Asher Jackson

Didn't Elon Musk come out recently as saying that he believes life is a simulation/video game?

June 10, 2016 - 15:28

Lucas Taylor

It's not like he's a radical that has to be bought out. He's bourgeois, of course he's going to help Clinton.

June 10, 2016 - 15:28

Joseph Adams

He's bourgeois, sure, be he also dislikes Hillary quite a bit.

June 10, 2016 - 15:30

Parker Gonzalez

He dislikes he so much that he gave her Secretary of State.

June 10, 2016 - 15:31

Gavin Johnson

Yes.
Doesn't make him right though.

June 10, 2016 - 15:33

Levi Edwards

Well, that's when he started disliking her. Lots of beltway insiders/reporters reported about their very contentious relationship while she was at the State Department. In private I bet he flips his shit about the email scandal.

They both have the same neoliberal goals, they just have different approaches.

June 10, 2016 - 15:35

Caleb Murphy

Why? They are pretty much the same person besides Hillary having a little bit less respect for innocent lives.

June 10, 2016 - 15:36

Adam Allen

Wouldn't surprise me if he still holds a grudge against her for the 2008 campaign. That shit was ugly. She basically started the "Kenyan muslim" meme.

June 10, 2016 - 15:38

Hudson Thompson

Was also reported earlier this year in some new book on First Ladies that Michelle despises Hillary.

June 10, 2016 - 15:42

Camden Martinez

Lets be fair to Hillary, Obama's time hanging out with muslims and his visits to muslim countries before he was president make him think hes a muslim.

Also probably that he's black.

Hillary didn't paint Obama black.

June 10, 2016 - 15:45

Aiden Campbell

wot

June 10, 2016 - 15:55

Michael Evans

Some of his friends from college are muslims and during his senate career he went overseas to the middle east a few times.

Though mostly that was to tell palestinians "hamas sucks isreal rules dude, hang ten" and then do a flip off a turnpike or whatever people do with skateboards.

June 10, 2016 - 15:59

Tyler Moore

how do they justify banning or not-banning the BBC

June 10, 2016 - 16:14

David King

Bill will hook him up with tickets for a flight to the island filled with underage prostitutes that his friend owns.

June 10, 2016 - 16:16

Oliver Watson

With a wife like Michelle to go home to can you blame him? Even if she did look good considering she is supposedly very intelligent he probably has developed some kind of inferiority thing, despite being president. He just needs to feel powerful again user, cant you understand the free world is his only bargaining chip? He needs this!

June 10, 2016 - 16:19

Elijah Robinson

TheAmazingAtheist reacts to Hillary's victory

youtube.com/watch?v=FLhT7xcvUcc

June 10, 2016 - 16:20

David Robinson

Bananaman can be based sometimes.

June 10, 2016 - 16:28

Jayden Foster

Here's some more of his/her autism

June 10, 2016 - 16:38

Carson Ramirez

Hillary's support literally has a near 1:1 correlation with internet penetration

June 10, 2016 - 16:41

Jaxson Robinson

I just find it funny how it's totally okay for them to pal around with Holla Forums but damn, because of those Bernie Bros Sanders is the fucking devil!

Not to mention how they've essentially been using Hillary's black support as a fucking cudgel to bludgeon Bernie's supporters. Also don't Latinos support Bernie more than Hillary? I know women did.

June 10, 2016 - 16:47

Evan Smith

...

June 10, 2016 - 17:07

Julian Peterson

I remember ebaumsworld.

June 10, 2016 - 17:09

Austin Diaz

Is that fucking Chloe Moretz

June 10, 2016 - 17:10

Julian Lee

Mankind was a mistake.

June 10, 2016 - 17:10

Nicholas Collins

Yes.

June 10, 2016 - 17:10

Thomas Adams

They're just digging themselves deeper.

Are these people stupid or just filled with hubris?

June 10, 2016 - 17:13

Blake Morales

They're going for the Holla Forums demographic I see

June 10, 2016 - 17:13

Aiden Lewis

It'll work.

It'll push those floating voters back into the Democrat party pen, and the left-wingers out to pasture.

June 10, 2016 - 17:14

Carson Brown

Yes, she has been campaigning for her actively for the past 7 months or so

June 10, 2016 - 17:14

Jacob Gutierrez

She's been posting dank memes on Twitter all day today.

June 10, 2016 - 17:20

Henry Turner

Christ that icon only makes me hate her more

June 10, 2016 - 17:22

Isaiah Cruz

This is "tell us how you feel about your student debt in 3 emoji or less" tier of retardation.

June 10, 2016 - 17:24

Austin Cox

...

June 10, 2016 - 17:35

Julian Sanders

That's still far more retarded and condescending

June 10, 2016 - 17:37

Leo Harris

Nyarlathotep has a thousand masks, my friend. He is both Hillary and Trump.

June 10, 2016 - 17:42

Nathan Adams

This is fucking pathetic.

June 10, 2016 - 17:54

Jayden Howard

...

June 10, 2016 - 17:57

Asher Powell

youtube.com/watch?v=_S2G8jhhUHg

I'll just leave this here.

June 10, 2016 - 17:58

Lucas Mitchell

Christ, every tweet from Hillary for the last couple hours has been about Trump, women, Trump on women, or reproductive rights

June 10, 2016 - 17:58

Adrian Roberts

Now that Sanders and his pesky "real progressivism" are out of the way, Clinton is free to appeal to LCD idpol to try and win the election through single-issue vagina voters.

June 10, 2016 - 18:03

Julian Rivera

This. Apart from empty, word-for-word snippets Hillary is going to steal from Sanders, most of the election will be "HILLARY IS A WOMAN" and "TRUMP IS THE ABSOLUTE EVIL".

I don't think they even have a game plan for when Trump inevitably begins stealing policies from Sanders, like offering free college tuition and debt absolution.

June 10, 2016 - 18:09

Liam Barnes

I wish we could stop looking at her tweets. The whole thing is autistic. I seriously don;t care about who president anymore. As long as people fix shit in the midterms/congressional.

June 10, 2016 - 18:13

James Russell

for the love of god

June 10, 2016 - 18:16

Connor Adams

I'm a moderate centrist, with admittable bias against authoritarianism, who shares views with the right and left roughly equally. From the beginning I couldn't really decide who to vote for because everyone seemed like shit to me.

This election has left me reluctantly convinced that first-past-the-post democratic representation is a failure, even a reform into a multiple transferable vote system probably wouldn't give us a decent government.

Perhaps an elitist type of science (and moreover, empiricism)-directed government with a minimum intelligence/merit requirement would work better to strive for in the late future.

I dunno. I'm just sick of all of it. I want to say fuck it all and not give a shit anymore, but apathy is death, as the saying goes.

June 10, 2016 - 18:17

Cooper Garcia

Liquid Crystal Display

June 10, 2016 - 18:18

Joshua Cook

...

June 10, 2016 - 18:23

Dominic Howard

The Ride!
It Doesn't End!

June 10, 2016 - 18:25

Colton Robinson

Is that Angela Davis?

Hillary has no shame does she

June 10, 2016 - 18:30

Carter Adams

lowest common denominator

June 10, 2016 - 18:31

Jeremiah Taylor

God damn current year man.

June 10, 2016 - 18:32

Andrew Fisher

Why does she looks like a cardboard cutout?

June 10, 2016 - 18:33

Camden Williams

She hasn't fed recently so she's reverting back to her original form.

June 10, 2016 - 18:34

Chase Ross

I think Jon Stewart is the only college liberal talk show type that hasn't completely shat on bernie at this point

June 10, 2016 - 18:34

Bentley Lewis

democracynow.org/2016/3/28/angela_davis_on_the_fascist_appeal
It gets better when you realize Angela Davis won't even endorse her.

June 10, 2016 - 18:36

Jace Anderson

That was basically my point

June 10, 2016 - 18:41

Justin Wright

>reddit.com/r/hillaryclinton/comments/4ni9gb/congratulations_were_reaching_out_with_a_message/
JUST

June 10, 2016 - 18:42

Sebastian Murphy

Haha oh man do you guys remember when the Clinton Global Initiative gave formaldehyde laced trailers to the survivors of the earthquake in Haiti? What a hoot.

June 10, 2016 - 18:44

Isaac James

reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4ngpbm/all_of_rsandersforpresident_right_now

June 10, 2016 - 18:49

Caleb Ramirez

This fucking shit needs to stop.

June 10, 2016 - 18:55

Zachary Parker

And remember that one time when she blocked Haiti from raising its minimum wage? Can't wait for 4 years more years of that fun

June 10, 2016 - 18:58

Gavin Brown

Honestly, what are Hillary's progressive achievements? Maybe S-CHIP

What else?

June 10, 2016 - 19:09

Dylan Anderson

...

June 10, 2016 - 19:15

Dylan Flores

Bourgeois democracy is a failure, not merely FPTP.

June 10, 2016 - 19:16

Owen Mitchell

What would you do?

Oh, actually I pointed that out to the head mod and he fucking blocked me. I suggest very early preemptive "just in case" Brockian shenanigans.

June 10, 2016 - 19:20

Aiden Robinson

Technically is, the problem just goes much deeper than lolberts are willing to admit.

Thanks.

Technocrats shit on people's rights for "muh efficiency". Which will be irrelevant entirely in a post-scarcity society but don't tell them that.

June 10, 2016 - 19:22

Charles Long

>theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/10/sanders-supporters-prefer-clinton-to-trump-exclusive-poll
I hate this country

June 10, 2016 - 19:23

Charles Barnes

These people are sick in the head.

June 10, 2016 - 19:27

Sebastian Sullivan

This isn't funny or clever at all. Hell, have most people 18-25 even seen Fargo? That shit was like 20 years ago. The fuck. How do people find this appealing.

June 10, 2016 - 19:28

Isaiah Mitchell

shit, you mean Hillary just hired her own set of Trolls from Olgino? Pray to Lenin they don't find this site.

June 10, 2016 - 19:28

Jayden Johnson

>salon.com/2016/06/10/fbi_criminal_investigation_emails_clinton_approved_cia_drone_assassinations_with_her_cellphone_report_says/
ha ha silly berniebros, remember that indictment is impossible.

June 10, 2016 - 19:29

Jonathan Reyes

...

June 10, 2016 - 19:34

Asher Taylor

She's a reptilian robot programmed to "politics"

June 10, 2016 - 19:38

Julian Reyes

I feel so used… I believed in her. It's like when John Snow looked after Ollie as if he was his brother and then he ends up stabbing Jon anyway.

Sorry

June 10, 2016 - 19:47

Evan Smith

Something's up

June 10, 2016 - 19:51

Jordan Smith

What do you mean they were banned from half-chan?

Also what about Argentina? Never heard anything about that.

June 10, 2016 - 19:55

Chase Hernandez

Rangebanned.

twitter.com/4chan/status/741452104112439296
boards.4chan.org/qa/thread/558663
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/76772943#p76788237

June 10, 2016 - 19:59

Angel Reed

I agree and might have decided to imply that too, but I didn't want to make my post overly complicated in what it was trying to convey.

I don't claim to have all the answers, but what I think is the truth of matters is thus:

The problem is that at its very core humanity is deeply flawed. All these systems and social conventions we've tried across history collapse and stagnate time after time because our very nature erodes them. It's lucky we've progressed at all. Absolute perfection may be unreasonable to strive for, but we're for the most part obsolete to the future we see ahead of us. Technology and science outpaces biology. It's a battle against our weakness.

The masses are all proving to be useful idiots once again and this has thus undermined my faith in the concept of democracy at least for this generation, the corruptible in power play their little games as they always have, and those of us who actually understand the world and human nature or at least somewhat pick up on reality for what it is are left to watch the shitshow.

I want a smarter, stronger human race that has evolved (perhaps, genetically engineered as such) beyond all the pointless delusion and insanity of our past and present, that will stake its claim upon the vast reaches of space where I think we rightly will one day persist. Given the resources and international will to so, we could do it. We could build a better future where the strength and cunning of the individual commands the future, not the folly of the collective, and leave all these weak-minded fools behind to fade into history.

June 10, 2016 - 20:28

Jaxson Butler

She wants that VP ticket so bad.

June 10, 2016 - 20:40

Camden Gomez

Yeah, that was my instant thought, too. I've done enough crime in my day You know it's going to be some shitty wired fence.

Security/cops are going to be the main worry or obstacle. But with enough people & as many distractions that will be going on at the time, many will slip through. Especially if enough bring wire-cutters. You'll need at least one real strong dude in each group, because it's harder than you think, cutting through some fencing using basic handheld cutters. I'm sure they've made improvements though. And I'd say get shopping asap, you don't want to do it so close to convention time in case you get caught..

June 10, 2016 - 20:54

Wyatt Morgan

But Nietzsche guy! You do not recognize that the weak aren't born, but made. Let's not idealize the aim. Even if you wished to challenge other men, and fight for supremacy: who would you be to fight on uneven ground? Overcoming any bounds is easy on a pitched slope! Instead of fighting weak men, fight those who prevent you from seeking proper contest!

June 10, 2016 - 20:54

Xavier Moore

Wasn't everyone saying that Warren would be more productive in the Senate than in the Vice presidency anyways?

June 10, 2016 - 21:03

Aaron Morales

She's worse.

With her in a war with Russia is much more likely, as is even a war with Iran…..she'll fight anybody her doners want her to.

Just look at her "Nuclear advisory committee". She put a fucking donor onto that whose only experience was with trading shares.

He had top secret clearance for fucks sake.

June 10, 2016 - 21:03

Mason White

...

June 10, 2016 - 21:05

Noah Sullivan

Yes.

Though it's even though she denies it, she colluded with Hillary months ago and was picked then. Warren knows how to talk her way out of anything, though in maddows recent interview, the one explicitly titled something along the lines of "Warren does not want VP" she implies at the very end of the video that she wants VP

June 10, 2016 - 21:08

Jace Martinez

How to spot CTR Hill Shills
reddit.com/r/HillaryForPrison/comments/4njj7b/how_to_spot_a_shill_correct_the_record_talking/

June 10, 2016 - 21:30

Carson Foster

Well, as far as reality goes I wouldn't assert that personally, since I can see the potentialities of those born weak made strong by circumstance just as well as those born strong could be made weak by circumstance. Perhaps I do idealize too much about the future, but it is ever in conflict with a cynical pragmatism as I'm unsure how those ideals could realistically be achieved anyhow in the face of facts, the 'doing' being something far different from the considering,

As for the 'uneven ground', I do not know how it could be done away with in the first place, and is not the tenacity of a man forged in adversity?

It is the way of the weak to prevent a proper battle of ideas with the use of a plethora of dishonorable methods, so I'm not sure why you're dividing them into two groups. Do you mean people with power and people without?

What approach would you propose?

June 10, 2016 - 21:45

Jaxon Phillips

I'm envisioning a Clinton presidency and can't stop thinking about all the civilians dying and being injured, displaced, trafficked, and raped, losing their families and developing mental illnesses. Can I get a support group? My heart is breaking. We can't let this happen.

Sanders would do this too, but he wouldn't be so casual in deciding who to occupy, war with, or topple, nor so as aggressive in method.

Sorry for pic related being so cancerous. I got a new computer a couple months ago and lost my original reaction folder.

June 10, 2016 - 22:20

Elijah Ward

Wat

June 10, 2016 - 22:36

Andrew Martinez

Sanders has voted for some wars and regime changes, but not nearly as many. The US still wouldn't be pacifist under his leadership but it'd be a huge improvement. Don't forget he's only a socdem.

June 10, 2016 - 22:43

Nathan Kelly

Her references are so out of date that their source has been adapted to a TV show.

June 10, 2016 - 23:08

Jeremiah Gray

No, he's a socialist. Coops may be only a small part of his overall platform and he may have conflated socialism with social democracy this primary in an attempt to not sound so radical, but he's a pretty clear socialist personally if you remember his past.

June 10, 2016 - 23:12

Ryan Morales

I just watched this week's episode of Real Time. I've been thinking it's time to stop, and this was the final straw.

Last episode, Bill Maher did his little monologue on how capitalism is like a religion to the boomers, but millennials are open to socialism. But then holy fuck he sounded like Reagan tonight.
youtube.com/watch?v=jrfbWtMgyk8

I used to watch this show for his attempts to get some kind of substantive conversation on his panels but this is pure cancer. I hope the revolution comes soon so he can go up against the wall.

June 10, 2016 - 23:15

Landon Miller

youtube.com/watch?v=DBiQ0XaI-nM

June 10, 2016 - 23:17

Isaiah Collins

He spent his Honeymoon in Russia attending a Lenin seance

He's the slickest entryist

June 10, 2016 - 23:18

Juan Green

W-what? Comrade Sanders believes in that spooky bullshit?

June 10, 2016 - 23:19

Luke Mitchell

LA flipped! I knew we didn't vote for Shillary!

June 10, 2016 - 23:21

Dominic Rogers

No, it was a joke. Though he did spend his honeymoon in Russia, that part is true

June 10, 2016 - 23:21

Luis Moore

Lol, and he did it with Tom Morello sitting right next to him. Isn't Morello basically a card carrying communist, or has he become less radicalized with age?

June 10, 2016 - 23:26

Benjamin Baker

Earlier in the show, Morello was basically saying it's a systemic problem and blaming individual people within it is missing the point. Bill Maher rejoined with "what are you an anarchist?" and Morello made a face like "B R U H".

June 10, 2016 - 23:30

Ian Perez

...

June 10, 2016 - 23:32

Adam Gomez

Bill Maher has always been the single worst human being on TV. Even when I was a liberal I hated him.

Wait, is Tom Morello an anarchist? I know RATM loves the Zapatistas.

June 10, 2016 - 23:32

Dylan Wright

...

June 10, 2016 - 23:33

Daniel Edwards

Fucking RATM.

youtube.com/watch?v=Q3dvbM6Pias

I seriously doubt it.

June 10, 2016 - 23:43

Christopher Reyes

vice.com/read/meet-the-socialist-running-for-president-in-the-shadow-of-bernie-sanders

what the fuck, Holla Forums, a real socialist candidate and ive never seen you fags mention him once, not even once. hes asking for a REAL revolution, not the socdem shit bern-bern is asking for.

June 11, 2016 - 00:32

Ryder Carter

Go jump in a wood chipper. Seriously.

archive.is/NVRHv

June 11, 2016 - 00:44

Christopher Sanders

there you go then, it's a performance art piece

June 11, 2016 - 00:52

Anthony Taylor

Tom Morello on Overtime

youtube.com/watch?v=6ptvL0KU8Ls

He was great on the show. The only reason I watched it. If anyone wants a link to the show, here:
watchseries.li/serie.php?serie=real_time_with_bill_maher

I recommend just fast forwarding to Tom, though. Bill has Barbara Boxer on & licks her asshole. His show sucks so hard.

June 11, 2016 - 01:11

Austin Hall

youtube.com/watch?v=ecHE2o9PlhM

June 11, 2016 - 01:28

Anthony Allen

This is some cringe-inducing humor. Gives current year man a run for his money.

June 11, 2016 - 01:31

Brandon Long

...

June 11, 2016 - 01:34

Anthony King

Ugh, Barbara Boxer.
The bitch that tried to legitimize the pile of shit that was the Nevada Democratic Convention.
The one that felt "threatened" because she disenfranchised all the Bernie supporters in the state. Oh poor Barbara. The Barbara that cried to the MSM about the mean prolies that dare object to the stolen election. Not even Bill Maher will hold her feet to the fire. What a sleazy network of scumbags that scratch each other's backs.

June 11, 2016 - 01:34

Grayson Cooper

Yeah, his interview with her was awful.
>BB: "I'm leaning in favor of legalizing weed."
Meanwhile there are people with diseases that are only known to be treatable with medical marijuana and most states won't even do that. This shitcunt belongs at the end of a fucking rope.

June 11, 2016 - 01:37

Lincoln Nguyen

Oh, can we please go on?
It really bothers me when Holla Forums thinks all lefties are prey to identity politics. It's not us, it's the dumb electorate that think woman = progressive. Barbara Boxer, Elizabeth Warren and the rest of those cunts are the same as any politician. They're so dependent on campaign money and insider deals that they're afraid to actually stand up for something unpopular. The only difference is if someone rightfully yells at them for being deceitful corporate whores, they get to cry like a damsel in distress and the propaganda networks interview them as if an angry crowd didn't just yell, but gang-raped her.

That's why I'd love it if Jill Stein gets a huge percentage of Bernie voters, which ends up handing the election to Trump. Then the media will be too afraid to attack her for interrupting their plutocracy because she's a woman.

June 11, 2016 - 01:46

Joseph Smith

Faux liberals that manage to fool California make real progressives look bad. I'm in Colorado and we actually have legalized weed, and didn't need two vaginas in suits to make it happen.

June 11, 2016 - 01:49

Daniel Reed

I hate to use Ben here, but this one really goes to your point.

June 11, 2016 - 01:51

Luke Cruz

Par for the course for pretty much any mainstream political ideology.

June 11, 2016 - 01:54

Luke Collins

What do you have against Ben "Gas the Ruling Class" Garrison?

June 11, 2016 - 02:09

Hunter Powell

His Sanders stuff, for one, is laughable. And I think he's moved substantially to the right since this stuff, for example.

June 11, 2016 - 02:32

Ayden Morales

this

i am fucking sick and tired of fucking idealism and moralism

it is your job to seize power at the earliest opportunity and to ram your program down the throats of the bourgeoisie

no more feelgood nonsense, the hour is far too late and the stakes far too fucking high

i am sick of "principled" political impotence

the "principled" refusal to engage in the dirty world of politics has brought us to the edge of the fucking precipice

we are so supremely fucked on all fronts that even the most well organized attack on the ruling class probably will not save us, and we aren't even doing that

fucking shits

June 11, 2016 - 04:22

Eli Cooper

OK but

How do you get people to do that? Most people don't understand the gravity of the situation, and leftists as a whole don't agree about how to deal with it.

It would make the most sense to me if the revolution started soonish and spread globally, and people in different parts of the world all tried different forms of socialism. Like, each country has several socialist parties, who all agree on the basics but not the details and would band together if they needed to stomp out a resurgence of capitalism.

At this point, does it really matter what kind of leftist you are more than that you are leftist?

June 11, 2016 - 06:14

Kayden Cook

Because this thread and this board are full of reddit-tier socdem reformists that think you can compromise with capitalism.

June 11, 2016 - 06:26

David Lewis

Material conditions shape human nature. "Strength" and "weakness" are human qualities determined by those material conditions. To establish a species of Übermenschen, we must eliminate the conditions which produce Untermenschen. It is our opinion, as radical leftists, that class-based hierarchical systems like capitalism produce weaklings, for class requires a subordinate to exploit. Our solution is communism. Eliminate the material conditions which produce weakness—alienation, exploitation, oppression, hierarchy, etc.—and weak people cease to exist.

I'm only framing this in Nietzschean terminology because you seem to have an affinity for him. Nietzsche was an extremely reactionary person, however, and is only marginally relevant in radical leftism. He was virulently opposed to the socialists of his day, set the philosophical grounds for Nazism, and despised democracy (as opposed to just bourgeois "democracy", which is actually not democratic). Max Stirner is usually preferred to Nietzsche among radical leftists.

June 11, 2016 - 06:31

Ian Watson

richardcharnin.wordpress.com/2016/06/08/democratic-primary-approval-ratings-matching-pre-election-and-exit-polls-indicate-fraud/

From the comments

>BREAKING NEWS: Election Attorney Cliff Arnebeck filed a major RICO racketeering lawsuit June 6, 2016 against the voting machine companies whose code that fractionalized votes and so delegate distribution was found by Bev Harris ( blackboxvoting.org/fraction-magic-1/
Fraction Magic – Part 1: Votes are being counted as fractions instead of as whole numbers ), and against the media that was complicit in covering up the crime of election theft by adjusting the exit polls to match the fraudulent voting machine counts which was found by Richard Charnin and Beth Clarkson ( showmethevotes.org/ ).

youtube.com/watch?v=GdwKuqtTXc8

>Originally, attorneys Cliff Arnebeck and Bob Fitrakis were going to file their RICO lawsuit earlier on June 6th in order to get the networks to release the raw data on exit polls for the California primary. The networks cancelled the exit polls instead.

June 11, 2016 - 06:43

Luke Ross

...

June 11, 2016 - 06:47

Kayden Green

(insert Ron Paul gif)

June 11, 2016 - 07:00

Alexander Anderson

That doesn't mean they actually support her. She's just the lesser of two evils.

Hillary is going to be another Justin Trudeau, a retarded place holder until you can run a real candidate. The Shillbots can sing for joy about that while Berniecrats are elected to congress.

June 11, 2016 - 07:02

Dylan Martinez

Fuck Ron Paul, have a Slick Entryist gif.

June 11, 2016 - 07:02

Aiden Gomez

if I wanted Reagan elected I'll vote for Trump.
you mean someone who is pro-corporate? Then Hillary is like a globalization fascist.

June 11, 2016 - 07:43

Brayden Adams

...

June 11, 2016 - 07:56

Luis Phillips

That's coloured as Clinton held though

June 11, 2016 - 08:10

Thomas Morgan

We have mentioned him though

Try harder

June 11, 2016 - 08:13

Justin Jackson

It's kind of sad to think that part of the reason millions of young people are rushing to Bernie is because their own parents don't show as much love or understanding of their generation as he does.

June 11, 2016 - 08:24

Leo Evans

God that was painful

June 11, 2016 - 08:27

Xavier Edwards

telesurtv.net/english/news/US-Green-Party-Presidential-Candidate-Jill-Stein-Backs-BDS-20160611-0008.html
well, there goes any chance of the greens becoming a major party.

June 11, 2016 - 08:39

Mason Mitchell

oy

June 11, 2016 - 08:40

Aiden Stewart

Epitome of spinelessness

June 11, 2016 - 09:07

Adrian Ramirez

Scary how prescient they were.

I want to see Zizek on this show so fucking badly.

June 11, 2016 - 09:14

Jacob Reed

Microeconomics are the same thing as macroeconomics! Remember, commies are the ones who don't understand the economy.

June 11, 2016 - 09:29

Henry Jackson

their disappointment will fuel the revolutionary fire

youth cadres now

June 11, 2016 - 09:29

Oliver Ramirez

DEBBIE GOES HARD AGAINST WARREN, CLINTON, AND OBAMA, ADVOCATES DIRECT ACTION:

youtube.com/watch?v=BG7C-k6nmTo

American "Progressives" finna go full Socialism I swear 2 god

Wal-Mart stock options and a how to guide on how to give shitty speeches to colleges and banks for mega bucks most likely

June 11, 2016 - 09:31

Kevin Diaz

When you said Debbie I thought you meant Wasserman-Schultz

June 11, 2016 - 09:32

Josiah Edwards

...

June 11, 2016 - 09:33

Wyatt Walker

lol me too

June 11, 2016 - 09:44

Nolan Morgan

This video almost made me cry.

June 11, 2016 - 09:44

Henry Anderson

>Muh ignorance of pure, reliable, safe medicines that must be made from synthetic derivatives of everything from opium to cocaine
If you want to get baked, be honest and stop hiding behind the sick and dying.

June 11, 2016 - 09:58

Matthew Reed

...

June 11, 2016 - 10:02

Wyatt Cox

Quit projecting, bitch-ass nigga. I was referring to specific cases where a disorder can't be treated successfully with other known methods. There are cases with parents traveling across states to places where they can use cannabis oil to treat their kids' seizures. This is a problem with a known solution, which is legalizing medical weed at least. I support legalizing all drugs, but that's beside the point. The infuriating thing is that people like Boxer are standing on bullshit principles instead of honestly evaluating the reality of the situation.
I am fine with both of these things. Contrary to your maximum retardation, it's possible to be pro-weed and pro-other drugs.

June 11, 2016 - 10:04

Tyler Richardson

youtube.com/watch?v=EE4unn3bPFQ

Adolph Reed is the man

June 11, 2016 - 10:07

Jacob Johnson

...

June 11, 2016 - 10:09

Ethan Anderson

It's not, I checked.

June 11, 2016 - 10:09

Leo Reyes

Be honest, how many are posting yourself?

June 11, 2016 - 10:09

Josiah Edwards

...

June 11, 2016 - 10:12

Chase Sullivan

because he's an attention-whoring faggot, see

June 11, 2016 - 10:13

Caleb Davis

Schedule, not title, right. Durr…

June 11, 2016 - 10:14

Asher Bailey

backing BDS won't effect their popularity at all, are you retarded?

June 11, 2016 - 10:15

Hudson Williams

Yes, Schedule I.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_Substances_Act#Schedule_I_controlled_substances

June 11, 2016 - 10:18

Carson James

California: "100.0% ( 22,356 of 22,356 ) precincts partially reporting as of June 10, 2016, 6:43 p.m."

What the fuck is "partially reporting"? How does a precinct "partially report" a presidential primary? How do news networks call a race based on "partial reports"?

June 11, 2016 - 10:21

Carter Taylor

Hey don't worry about it guy Hillary's united the party already :^)

June 11, 2016 - 10:23

Thomas Carter

typical bernie bro

June 11, 2016 - 10:24

Matthew Rodriguez

???

June 11, 2016 - 10:25

Zachary Lee

Hey, man it's some high tech new Democracy. You probably wouldn't understand it. Just go vote and don't worry about it.

June 11, 2016 - 10:26

Luke Gonzalez

...

June 11, 2016 - 10:26

Carter Young

Yeah, the left (in the US and elsewhere) as a whole are 110% behind current Muslim regimes, seeing Israel and their American cronies as the sole serpent of discord in the tranquil eden that is the mid-east, resulting in the overwhelming majority of UN resolutions and condemnations both in the mid-east and worldwide.

Because nobody has created a cannabinoid drug, submitted it to the FDA, and had it cleared in clinical trials as an effective treatment for any specific condition.

June 11, 2016 - 10:27

Anthony Myers

...

June 11, 2016 - 10:27

Joseph Baker

That's not how the classification works. It's illegal to do any of that with a Schedule I drug.

June 11, 2016 - 10:33

Chase Smith

what strawman "left" are you talking about? Even Jill Stein talks shit about Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Qatar, etc.
twitter.com/search?q=turkey from:@DrJillStein&src=typd

June 11, 2016 - 10:34

Camden Green

youtube.com/watch?v=gIcv6cRhXJw

BASED KYLE tearing apart Elizabeth "Pocahontas" Warren

June 11, 2016 - 10:40

Ryder Gonzalez

Elizabeth Warren On MSNBC: I'm Ready To Fight For Hillary Clinton
youtube.com/watch?v=G0gXSMLdzzc

I wonder if this is intended as some sort of sop to the bernie camp

June 11, 2016 - 10:41

Michael Long

Stein is part of the outer fringe. I'm talking about stuff that's PC for clickbait blognalists to embed in InstaFace or whatever for normalfags to retwat at each other.

June 11, 2016 - 10:43

Dylan Sanchez

lol'd

June 11, 2016 - 10:44

John Taylor

Wow, Pocahontas is a piece of shit traitor to anyone who cares about the interests of the people. By "our side" she means Democrats.

June 11, 2016 - 10:46

David Murphy

fucking lmao

Goddamn I love this man. I really do wonder what all he knows, too..

June 11, 2016 - 11:07

Angel Murphy

Don't be sad. That prick Harry Reid set that shit up.

Reminds me of in South Park after the cripple fight is already done.. "Ok boys, break it up".

June 11, 2016 - 11:21

Jaxson Brown

youtube.com/watch?v=kelVrADzPYU
ayy lmao

June 11, 2016 - 11:30

Nolan Hall

As someone who's dabbled in programming, it's pretty scary to see how little government officials understand technology.

June 11, 2016 - 11:45

Connor Barnes

he probably means center-left

June 11, 2016 - 12:41

Jason Russell

psst, it's actually a good thing. Makes the revolution easier.

June 11, 2016 - 12:42

Aaron Ward

What's wrong with direct linking to vice

June 11, 2016 - 12:49

Joshua Richardson

Giving that shit paper the clicks it wants

June 11, 2016 - 12:50

Leo Lopez

opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cid=N00033492&cycle=2016&type=C&newMem=N&recs=100

Warren was corrupted long ago it seems. Also, many of her top contributors are linked to David Brock:

June 11, 2016 - 12:51

Jordan Smith

I'll give them a month before they wake up from THAT particular delusion. Get ready for CNN to crucify us for not supporting their princess.

It is, but it won't take. Anyone openly endorsing Hillary right now is going to feel the Bern, even if it's someone like Elizabeth Warren. They'll just see her as a sell out.

June 11, 2016 - 12:51

Oliver Hall

Clickbait on par with Buzzfeed.

June 11, 2016 - 12:52

Christopher Brown

It's liberal clickbait par excellence.

Warren's a pretty vocal defender of Israel too. I have no idea why so many liberals/progressives love her.

June 11, 2016 - 12:54

Owen Gutierrez

youtube.com/watch?v=g4NqFhP855w

"Hillary Clinton Was Advised On Nuclear Weapons by a Donor. Bernie Sanders Must Stay Patient."

I doubted Goodman at first, but then a lot he was saying actually came true.

June 11, 2016 - 12:55

Anthony Ramirez

I'll add, this shouldn't surprise anyone. Business as usual in politics.

June 11, 2016 - 12:57

Jayden Scott

I'm fucking crying
Is that LOTR music?

June 11, 2016 - 13:00

Parker Wright

How is this legal? How is a civilian able to essentially purchase a top secret security clearance?

June 11, 2016 - 13:00

Juan Perez

Confirmation bias. You heard plenty of predictions from other people that didn't come true, but you're not reminded of that. There are enough people watching these events and speculating that somebody will get it right. Doesn't mean they have some great knowledge. Same thing made Nate Silver famous. Same thing made Paul the Octopus famous.

June 11, 2016 - 13:02

Justin Thompson

It's from that shitty Superman movie.

I mean the new one with Zodd.

June 11, 2016 - 13:02

Henry Adams

Because reasons

Naw, because $$

That could be true. But I hadn't been entertaining many other opinions on the matter. I had hoped something would come from it, but didn't have much faith because, it's Hillary Clinton.

He stays on top of this server issue though, and I appreciate his input.

June 11, 2016 - 13:06

Gavin Sanchez

I assumed it was from Gladiator 2bh

June 11, 2016 - 13:07

Ethan Thompson

If he was given top secret security clearance, what were the people given that donated far more money to CGI/her campaign?

I shudder to think.

June 11, 2016 - 13:08

Tyler Perez

Yeah, Russel Crowe played superman's dad in the recent movie

June 11, 2016 - 13:09

Aiden Thomas

I thought it was Titanic, lmao

June 11, 2016 - 13:09

Parker Foster

Huh, didn't think they were anywhere near as close to buzzfeed clickbait. Some of their documentaries are quite interesting IMO

June 11, 2016 - 13:10

Dylan Clark

Me too, but then I realized the dialogue didn't make sense coming from Crowe's character.

June 11, 2016 - 13:11

Jaxson Sanders

I used to like them back in the day, but they've been bought out since & it's very much impacted their content.

June 11, 2016 - 13:12

Liam Thomas

It's LOTR, not Superman. It's the scene at the end where Sam is trying to save frodo and eventually the eagles rescue them

June 11, 2016 - 13:14

Kevin Lee

They are very narrative driven like any part of the MSM these days. Their angle is basically OW THE EDGE. As the name suggests, they are all about the dark underbelly and they sensationalize it. Their shit is only accurate when real life is more brutal than they expected and they don't have to or can't make it worse, like when they sent a couple of dudes into the Islamic State.

June 11, 2016 - 13:15

Gabriel Bailey

...

June 11, 2016 - 13:17

Justin Hernandez

Holy fucking shit I can't believe I ever respected this deceiver.

June 11, 2016 - 13:18

Jacob Brown

Is this the craziest election in the history of the United States?

June 11, 2016 - 13:21

Dylan Allen

We already know that she basically gave them away for free by making them so easy to obtain. I mean is she really so incompetent that she wouldn't try to make money off of them?

June 11, 2016 - 13:25

Grayson Bailey

It is, but all it has done is make them hate Warren.

Clinton is such a horrible human being that the hatred she inspires is contagious.

June 11, 2016 - 13:25

Ryan Green

GOOD

see
That scumfuck gets what she deserves.

June 11, 2016 - 13:26

Hudson Bennett

Yeah, the Democrats are up shit creek. They NEED to unite the party to defeat Trump and gain ground in congress, but Hillary woefully unqualified for that job.

June 11, 2016 - 13:33

Ryan Hall

And they're too cliquish and full of hubris to see this.

June 11, 2016 - 13:36

Elijah Thomas

All is lost.
I guess I can only vote for the lolbertarian considering the fact that he at least doesn't suck NSA cock.

June 11, 2016 - 13:36

Lincoln Sullivan

Write in Karl Marx.

June 11, 2016 - 13:38

Liam Price

The only hope now is an indictment of Hillary.

June 11, 2016 - 13:42

Owen Gray

Write in WORLD SOCIALISM

June 11, 2016 - 13:42

Julian Thompson

Write-in Basiago

June 11, 2016 - 13:52

Grayson Jackson

alternet.org/economy/facebook-google-tech-funding-trump-rnc

June 11, 2016 - 14:03

William Fisher

They deserve to burn for what they did. I'm stuck with the NV Democrats little organization and all they care about is the votes and the money that gets funneled into my state. They must burn.

June 11, 2016 - 14:17

Kayden Foster

It's time to go full Reddit entryism

Everyone upvote this:

reddit.com/r/progressive/comments/4nn8u7/why_progressives_shouldnt_begin_endorsing_hillary/

reddit.com/r/progressive/comments/4nn8u7/why_progressives_shouldnt_begin_endorsing_hillary

At least do it to piss off all the Hillary sell outs in that sub

June 11, 2016 - 14:32

Samuel Reyes

Don't give up just yet. Remember the Democratic congressional primaries. If they won't pick Sanders, we'll replace them with people who will.

Defeat is only a frame of mind.

This is incredibly relevant. Rolling over for Hillary now because she's the presumptive nominee is counter productive to our goals. We want change, and we won't get that if we just fall in line.

We have to make Shillary and her corrupt establishment our bitch.

June 11, 2016 - 14:43

Asher Allen

It's called the for profit motive sweetheart. You will never change them unless your change the system itself. Of course dolan himself isn't racist. Some of his supporters are, and he is simply throwing red meat at his fanbase. His real problem is he is a scam artist.

[spoiler]has anyone made a webm of Brandon talking about how corporations act more like people then people do, and that ending corporate personhood is basically pointless?

June 11, 2016 - 14:52

Ryder Adams

dailykos.com/story/2016/1/27/1475904/-Sanders-Democracy-means-public-ownership-of-the-major-means-of-production
Anyone remember when Bernie said this lmao

June 11, 2016 - 14:57

Leo Hill

This is what Americans believe…

June 11, 2016 - 15:05

Grayson Sanders

SLICK

He obviously knows what socialism means, he chose to run on social democratic policies because it's more viable in America's political climate.

June 11, 2016 - 15:14

Connor Williams

HILLdawg endorsed by Obama
Looks like socialism lives on comrades
youtu.be/TvVHALw5Wmc

June 11, 2016 - 15:21

Chase Sanders

Stop guys everyone knows Hillary Rodham Clinton is the new standard bearer for us liberals,
Lets get behind her and stop trump! Its what Debs would want us to do!

June 11, 2016 - 15:43

Asher Morgan

ree

June 11, 2016 - 15:47

Henry Thomas

What liberals are what makes the left great,
People like Russel Brand are a bit to radical though

June 11, 2016 - 15:51

Gavin Perry

Wait, do you mean the States choose independently who can run for president?

E.g. Texas decided Jill Stein can be a candidate, but Oklahoma decided she cannot, so Texans can vote for Jill Stein, but Okies cannot?

June 11, 2016 - 16:13

Jonathan Smith

youtube.com/watch?v=USLIcy9ACvA

THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME

If you haven't seen Muhammed Ali's funeral service, you need to. Billy Krystal & Attallah Shabazz(Malcolm X's daughter) killed it.

Wonderful speeches from all involved. I'm damn proud to be Kentuckian. Muhammed Ali was the greatest of all time. Do watch it if you haven't yet.

Notably absent was Obama. I can't wrap my head around that. It seems he missed it(but sent a letter in his place) because of his daughter's graduation?! Come on, man. You're the President. Really disappointed by that. But the service was great, regardless.

God bless Muhammed Ali, this wonderful man:

THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME

MAY HE REST IN PEACE

June 11, 2016 - 16:17

Ryan Walker

You forgot to mention Bill being there

June 11, 2016 - 16:22

Jacob Cook

It's not that big a privilage anymore, tbqhonifamchan.

There's one more hope:
RUIN THE CREDIBILITY OF THE PRIMARIES BEFORE THE CONVENTION
Sanders and his official campaign have shown they're, much like Gore, unwilling to defend themselves from thieves. Thus, it falls on us to do so, by funding legal attacks on the Democratic Party machine and its phony election this year:
electionjusticeusa.org/
trustvote.org/
democracycounts.github.io/
showmethevotes.org/

June 11, 2016 - 16:28

Austin Thompson

Yeah.. He was there. But hang in there til the end. Muhammed was a big man, befriending everyone he met. I also saw some Saudi dude behind Bill in the audience. There's a Jewish speaker who lets it all out, too, about Israel's occupation, looks like they had to almost drag him away too, lmao.

June 11, 2016 - 16:29

Brayden Stewart

This is a pretty good idea!

June 11, 2016 - 16:31

Isaiah Nguyen

...

June 11, 2016 - 16:35

Parker Rogers

Another point in its favor, is that even if it fails to topple Hitlary from the nomination, it will still succeed in cleaning up out electoral system in time for the midterms.

June 11, 2016 - 16:37

Joseph Perez

youtube.com/watch?v=F30t-weDqko

June 11, 2016 - 16:51

Luke Miller

...

June 11, 2016 - 16:52

Jackson Turner

From his official FB page, though not his official presidential campaign page. What does it mean?

June 11, 2016 - 17:13

Connor Harris

Yes. At this point I would say those midterms matter the most. Especially if want any hope of killing TPP.

June 11, 2016 - 17:15

Bentley Smith

Hopefully, he's going to go green baby. Either that or violent revolution we socialist now.

June 11, 2016 - 17:18

Jose Lewis

Independent run, I hope. This is pretty much the only time a third party will have a chance, with both main candidates so thoroughly hated.

June 11, 2016 - 17:20

Adrian Lopez

Uh, whose official Facebook page?

June 11, 2016 - 17:25

Joseph Young

Bernie's, didn't mean to crop out his name.

facebook.com/senatorsanders/photos/a.91485152907.84764.9124187907/10154870262577908/

June 11, 2016 - 17:27

Dylan Nelson

meant for

June 11, 2016 - 17:27

Elijah King

Here ya go, champ :)

June 11, 2016 - 17:31

Jonathan Brooks

Holy shit the absolute madman. Is it finally Happening?

June 11, 2016 - 17:47

Alexander Bell

It can mean one of three things.

Running as independent, possibly accepting Steins offer. He knows it may be risky and not safe to do so, but his conscience knows it is the right choice to make (majority of people want him to stay in the race, and he knows). You can tell he genuinely wants this revolution, the old man rallied daily in over 4-5 times at points. He knows the only way to achieve this is to run independently. It would seriously make history if he did so and could possibly change politics in the US for the better. He knows it may not be a safe choice to make, as this has never been done before in a scenario such as this, but he believes it is the right thing to do.

Subtle diss towards Elizabeth Warren. Many people are tweeting Martin Luther King quotes at Elizabeth Warren, particularly the one that goes something like (paraphrasing) "In the end, we will not remember the voices of our enemies, but that of our friends who remained silent when most needed". Bernie didn't use the same quite, but it's not just that quote that people are using against Warren, it's just the most often used one.

Or endorsing hillary if he does in fact lose at the convention. While he knows Hillary's policies are not safe, he believes that trump is a bigger threat (which could be what the conscience part is about)

I hope so much that it is the first choice.

June 11, 2016 - 18:00

Luis Moore

I so hope it's the first one. We need this. We don't have enough time left to have even 4 years of an incremental change corporatist, let alone the likely 8.

June 11, 2016 - 18:05

Brayden Butler

He's said over and over again that he realizes that he can't tell his supporters who to vote for, so I think he knows better than to expect endorsing Hillary to change anything. And I'm pretty sure the only reason he ran in the first place was because he felt he had to, since things weren't going to get better on their own.

Both of those two factors point to the first option being more likely.

June 11, 2016 - 18:09

Luis Reyes

holy shit

he's gonna do it isn't he

he's crashing this two-party system

June 11, 2016 - 18:11

Ayden Wilson

If Bernie does it, he will be legendary.

June 11, 2016 - 18:15

Ian Cruz

That's a good point. He even redacted him saying that he would endorse the nominee (back in 2015 before this explosion happened) in an interview saying that it isn't his right to tell his supporters who to vote for, and when asked what it would take for her to earn his endorsement he refused to entertain that question, but when asked about it over and over again, he said that hypothetically she would gain some more respect from him if she took on some of his policies regarding healthcare, education, tracking, etc.

And the killer—even after the entire media was spouting headlines such as "Sanders knows the end is near" "Obama convinces Sanders that Hillary is the nominee" they were expecting him to either drop out and endorse her, or stay in only because he promised it would be down to the last vote, and that he would know he would not make it. With all of that media clickbait everyone is assuming he is dropping out. The moment he walked out of the Whitehouse and gave his press conference, one thing that they don't like to report (and I was watching) was he kept using the term "When I am president, we will (insert Sanders policy here". He kept using the term, "When I am president".

He also said later that he "would not be manipulated by anyone to drop out of the race" that was a day or so after the white house meeting which means it was aimed at Obama.

Im honestly stating to think he's about to go independent again. The backlash, however, would be huge.

June 11, 2016 - 18:32

Jose Phillips

I hope somebody close to him is relaying what his supporters are all saying, which is to stay in the race and run as an independent if he doesn't get the nomination.

June 11, 2016 - 18:37

Angel Martin

He would have Hillary by the balls though.

He could force her to either lose the election or adopt a bunch of Sander's policies.

Imagine the shitstorm as he strongarms the establishment into making promises that are very popular and will reflect SUPER bad on them if they break them.

June 11, 2016 - 18:37

Levi Jenkins

I will hold out hope that they will make him the leader in the Senate. The fact that he met with Chuck Schummer at the last minute was a good sign, as well as the fact that Schummer, notorious for being a camera whore, didn't take question in his press conference after their meeting.

The best case scenario is an indictment in the next couple of weeks, still quite possible. People forget that the head of the FBI is a republican.

June 11, 2016 - 18:37

Nathan Mitchell

Fun fact. Nader and him are close friends and speak regularly. Nader has been out in interviews recently saying that Bernie should run third party and shouldn't drop outn

June 11, 2016 - 18:38

Jack Kelly

IT'S HAPPENING

June 11, 2016 - 18:39

Cameron Roberts

I really, really, really like this image

June 11, 2016 - 18:40

Ethan Ross

youtube.com/watch?v=wQ7gu5SbjWY

"Hillary Clinton Played Role In Arming Child Soldiers In South Sudan"

June 11, 2016 - 18:41

Henry Nguyen

Thanks Obama! :DDD

The one potential time where his neoliberalism pays off.

June 11, 2016 - 18:42

Brandon Miller

it's yours, my friend

June 11, 2016 - 18:43

Bentley Stewart

Hillary needs to make the walk of shame.

June 11, 2016 - 18:43

David King

I'm gonna need a source on that one. That's quite a revelation if it's true.

June 11, 2016 - 18:43

Xavier Brown

lmao

June 11, 2016 - 18:43

Chase Myers

Would Tulsi Gabbard be Septa Unella?

June 11, 2016 - 18:47

Carter Robinson

I think this is what Sanders is saying. He's reiterating his intention to actually fight in Philly. Despite what the news is saying, the Democrats are fucking scared he's going to come to their convention with his 100,000 + supporters and raise hell, which is why they've been pressuring him since California to be a good boy and endorse Hillary.

But he's not going to do that. And he shouldn't, not when he's in such a good position to fuck them up. He could easily just take his voters and make an independent run, something that will make the DNC literally shit their pants. If they're not going to make him the nominee, they'll need to give him and his supporters something BIG, something just as good as the Presidency.

June 11, 2016 - 18:48

Dylan Fisher

youtube.com/watch?v=IZmjbI3utFk

Why are there so many fake google accounts supporting trump? Is there anyway to get google to disable and destroy them?

June 11, 2016 - 18:55

Aiden Lopez

I'm positively amazed so many Bernie voters refuse to fall in line behind Ramrod Clinton even when all the fucking pundits are shilling her because "muh big bad trump".

As much as I'd love him going Independent I can't see it happening though. He's too scared of a Trump presidency to fuck with the Dems now.

June 11, 2016 - 18:57

Connor Bailey

Americans have surprising amounts of class consciousness. We're oppressed, not ignorant. Socialist parties had huge success here before the Cold War.

June 11, 2016 - 18:59

Lincoln Rogers

If Bernie became President, what's the best strategy to start the implementation of socialism? I'd think a law allowing workers to take over businesses if they voted to

June 11, 2016 - 19:00

Alexander King

I doubt most Bernie supporters even watch those clueless pundits.

June 11, 2016 - 19:04

Michael Thomas

i translated his recent facebook update just for you

June 11, 2016 - 19:05

Levi Torres

i think you could start with legislation calling for the democratization of the workplace, starting with major industries

you might have to negotiate it down to allowing employees to take over businesses once they cease to be profitable

that would be a start and a way to normalize socialism while also keeping unemployment low

the average american would have neighbors and friends working in socialist industries and would become accustomed to the idea

June 11, 2016 - 19:08

Austin Bennett

One of the real problem are the massive amounts of CTR shills on /r/ess

Here's one for example:
reddit.com/user/Vaginavoter/

Try and find a post that isn't relevant to shittalking Commissar Sanders. Not possible

The activity of their sub is huge and they are constantly shilling on other subs too.

June 11, 2016 - 19:09

Kevin Miller

...

June 11, 2016 - 19:13

David Sanders

To everyone having doubts about supporting the green party. They just passed the anti-capitalist amendment to their platform.

June 11, 2016 - 19:17

James Nelson

but they're revisionist first worldists

June 11, 2016 - 19:18

Eli Gray

The green party just passed an amendment to their platform that made them anti-capitalist

gp.org/cgi-bin/vote/propdetail?pid=835

June 11, 2016 - 19:19

Connor Price

So market socialists?

June 11, 2016 - 19:20

Nathaniel Evans

Pretty much

June 11, 2016 - 19:21

Owen Cox

Ha

June 11, 2016 - 19:21

Adrian Flores

...

June 11, 2016 - 19:27

Jack Brooks

...

June 11, 2016 - 19:34

Landon Clark

If you care about progressive issues, then you vote for the candidate who most supports progressive issues and will do the most to advance them (or if the Republicans control Congress will at least do the most to resist those trying to reverse progress on them), which in this general election is quite clearly going to be Hillary. If you don't care about progressive issues, then vote for whoever you want.

June 11, 2016 - 19:38

Gavin Ward

...

June 11, 2016 - 19:42

Michael Gomez

neat

we're rising in the world, comr8s

June 11, 2016 - 19:44

Luke Walker

...

June 11, 2016 - 19:44

Henry Morales

...

June 11, 2016 - 19:46

Aaron Johnson

...

June 11, 2016 - 19:47

Brayden Mitchell

WHAT WERE YOU THINKING?

June 11, 2016 - 19:53

Jose Evans

Correct the record's motto is "Correct The Record is a strategic research and rapid response team designed to defend Hillary Clinton from baseless attacks."

They retweeted pic related

June 11, 2016 - 20:25

Oliver Brooks

WE ARE AT WAR WITH EURASIA! WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN AT WAR WITH EURASIA!

June 11, 2016 - 20:32

Wyatt Johnson

What's your point user? Don't tell me you actually believed their motto?

June 11, 2016 - 20:34

Zachary Lewis

An indy run with Trump nestled safely atop the GOP nomination would not be heroic, it would be suicidal. Johnson isn't even as big a spoiler as Perot, without a palace coup against Trump at the RNC, all of Sanders' support and momentum, his movement, and his place in history would go up in flames worse than Nader by 2004.

If Sanders loses at the DNC, his only viable chance will be to oppose the Democrats at lower-level elections, foment a revolt in the midterms, and set his recruits on a conquest of the party to 2020.

Until then, his best chance will be to push (openly or not) investigations into the fraudulent primary election, to undermine the DNC and get delegates deposed.

Get Hillary over a barrel? That could actually work, but if Trump won, Sanders would go down in infamy.

Call on workers at particularly vulnerable conglomerates to unionize, whenever a conglomerate gets in hock to the government or closes viable operations, use executive orders to offer the workers its facilities for seizere/Argentine-style recuperation and form a coop. When the other branches balk or try to harass unionization/recuperation efforts, use one of the few straight-up executive-branch dictator powers and deny funding for their efforts.

By the time they managed to slap together some kind of ridiculous impeachment proceedings or get a 2/3rds veto bypass, the tremendous amounts of wealth you'd liberated into the hands of labor would obliterate them in an electoral tidal wave and/or red terror.

June 11, 2016 - 20:38

Alexander Gray

Hahaha can you fucking imagine the right-wing reaction to this?

June 11, 2016 - 20:42

Colton Turner

usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/09/donald-trump-unpaid-bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/
Dolan Trump is facing over 3000 lawsuits right now for unpaid wages to his workers

June 11, 2016 - 20:48

Sebastian Wood

I don't believe you quite understand their mental process

June 11, 2016 - 20:52

Owen Powell

Is she right?

June 11, 2016 - 21:11

Isaac Perry

Because when Hillary or even Trump wins by appointment of the republican congress, the system is truly exposed for the sham it is.

June 11, 2016 - 21:15

Leo Richardson

Probably.

June 11, 2016 - 21:15

Dominic Diaz

My God.
The chaos would be glorious.

June 11, 2016 - 21:19

Blake Foster

Here's the relevant part of the 12th amendment, but I can't make heads or tails of it.

The person having the greatest Number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President.

June 11, 2016 - 21:23

Zachary Young

They were too heavy-handed about it. For the past several months Clinton, the media, and the party have shown nothing but contempt for the concerns of Sanders supporters. If they had tried harder to woo them to their side maybe less people would be ready to switch their allegiances.

I can think of at least three.

1. When a corporation tries to shut down busin, the US government has the power already to seize their property "for the public good" using eminent domain, and then can distribute it back to the workers on the condition of establishing a coop.

2. Italy has this program where unemployed can collect their entire pension at once on the condition of using it to establish a worker coop.

3. The Labor Party in Britain is thinking of a new law giving workers the right to "first refusal" when a business goes public on stocks.

I've also been told the laws in my own state make it difficult to setup worker coops for some reason or other, so maybe they need the legal protections of standard businesses in addition.

June 11, 2016 - 21:33

Carter Cooper

I still think that plank could use a bit more clarity and conciseness, but Papa Wolff signed off on it so it's good enough.

June 11, 2016 - 21:36

Christopher Sanders

Abandon hope's latest episode:

youtube.com/watch?v=9pP6J7bc5Lg

If you skip in about ten minutes in, the bananaman basically supports socialism as it is meant to be, whether he knows it or not.

June 11, 2016 - 21:51

Elijah Roberts

Spoiler: he doesn't know it.

June 11, 2016 - 21:56

Daniel Rivera

#BANTJ

June 11, 2016 - 21:57

Easton Cook

TJ has stated several times that he's a socialist, holds many socialist viewpoints and is an avid Bernie Sanders supporter. I'm not sure what you're suggesting here .

June 11, 2016 - 22:18

Easton Hill

Google denies manipulating search results for Hillary Clinton

washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/10/google-denies-burying-bad-hillary-clinton-stories/

“Google Autocomplete does not favor any candidate or cause,” said a Google spokesperson in an email to the Washington Times.

“Claims to the contrary simply misunderstand how Autocomplete works. Our Autocomplete algorithm will not show a predicted query that is offensive or disparaging when displayed in conjunction with a person’s name. More generally, our autocomplete predictions are produced based on a number of factors including the popularity of search terms,” said the statement.

June 11, 2016 - 22:22

Nolan Garcia

Implying he wants workers to own the means of production directly, or that he's unknowingly supporting it. That other stuff is mostly social democracy.

June 11, 2016 - 22:30

Lincoln Reyes

How do we relay this info to the Sanders campaign? I hope they know this.

Seriosly, how do we do this? Email Jeff Weaver? I don't imagine him or Sanders has time to read a single email and they probably get most of the information of their voters from social media. Do we email someone below Jeff? Someone who's in a position to pitch these ideas? Why not try emailing as many people working in the campaign as possible?

Petitions won't do shit even if they did catch flare on social media; we need to get these ideas to the top.

I think the editor made a post in this thread a day or so ago about doing this.

June 11, 2016 - 23:02

Benjamin Bailey

Jesus fucking Christ this drives me insane. The evidence against them is so fucking blatant; they're literally saying that

Everyone here should know, but if you don't know, watch this video now: youtu.be/PFxFRqNmXKg

And my favorite

None of these show up in auto complete because they could be "offensive". Jesus fucking Christ.

June 11, 2016 - 23:36

Mason Ramirez

I feel this is related:

publicpolicy.googleblog.com/2016/06/the-trans-pacific-partnership-step.html

June 11, 2016 - 23:40

Nicholas Turner

Well I got something amusing out of it at least

June 11, 2016 - 23:48

James Jenkins

As an old Holla Forumsmrade, I can't tell you how delighted this makes me.

archive.is/NCoMD

June 11, 2016 - 23:57

Andrew Hughes

...

June 12, 2016 - 00:36

Tyler Bailey

Bump

June 12, 2016 - 02:44

James Jones

...

June 12, 2016 - 06:37

Thomas Morgan

No, strenght and weakness are determined by genetics almost entirely, and partly by the development during childhood.

True. Thats why meritocratic systems that that enforce a form of passive eugenics and natural selection are nessecary for human progress. The opposite results in Idiocracy.

Eliminating some of the means of differentiating between strong and weak people does not remove weak people, but instead artificially keeps them alive and on "equal" footing with their peers. Afterwards people wonder why society is going to shit in every aspect without realising its because people are shit.

June 12, 2016 - 06:37

Daniel Price

economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/us-democrats-want-major-role-for-bernie-sanders-poll/articleshow/52714414.cms

June 12, 2016 - 06:58

Joseph Cox

...

June 12, 2016 - 07:02

Jace Edwards

(you)

June 12, 2016 - 07:03

Grayson Nelson

Most people probably want Sanders to line up behind Clinton, but also for Clinton and the establishment to give him a lot of concessions. The 44% is interesting though, could translate to about a 20% or 15% national polling as an independent.

June 12, 2016 - 07:05

Nathaniel Gonzalez

Hillary Clinton signed off on drone assassinations, emails reveal

wsws.org/en/articles/2016/06/11/clin-j11.html

By Patrick Martin
11 June 2016

June 12, 2016 - 08:11

Eli Miller

...

June 12, 2016 - 08:11

Easton Gray

"The guy with the most Electoral College votes wins, so long as it's over 50% of all total Electoral College votes. If no one gets that many, the House of Representatives will choose from the top three candidates. Each state delegation will have one vote for President, and at least one delegate from each state for two-thirds of the states must be present for the vote to be carried out. The candidate who wins the vote from a majority of the state delegations, wins. If the House of Representatives fails to elect a President prior to Inauguration Day (March 4), the Vice-President shall act as President."

June 12, 2016 - 08:39

Sebastian Ross

When Obama won the nomination Clinton replaced his chief of staff with her own, and she passed up the VP in favor of a more active roll like Secretary of State. Then she quit after 6 years to get ready for her turn as President. How being this out of touched with domestic issues makes her qualified as President is something I don't understand. Somehow she got through Benghazi unscathed, but instead Repubicucks keep harping on about her emails. I'll believe in a conviction when I see it, until then it's a lot of hot air over an old geezer who doesn't know how to run an email server.

Now that she has just barely gotten the nomination, even with Bernie almost 50:50 with her in most states, what significant substantial concession is she ready to make to the Bernie camp? I bet you absolutely nothing but empty rhetoric. Her main argument is you should vote for her because otherwise you are a racist. She is the SJW incarnate. I'll love watching her try not to be branded a global capitalist that's ready to outsource your job at a moment's notice, even if it helps circumvent the very environmental and labor law the left fought to create in the US.

June 12, 2016 - 08:57

Joshua Parker

What's with all the gay conspiritard shit surrounding Bernie's loss? I feel fucking bad too that he got knocked up, but I blame that on his campaign not being well run by Weaver and the lack of outreach and education to older voters, not a rigged election. This is getting a little too close to Holla Forumsshit where they blame Jews for anything that makes them upset. Fuck porky, but at the same, fuck being a tinfoiler.

June 12, 2016 - 10:03

Jaxson Morris

Then you haven't been paying attention.

June 12, 2016 - 10:04

Isaiah Russell

CTR pls

June 12, 2016 - 10:11

Daniel Rivera

...

June 12, 2016 - 10:16

Nolan Reyes

...

June 12, 2016 - 10:22

Justin Jenkins

Welp we can all pack up and go home now. Trump's got this in the bag.

June 12, 2016 - 10:29

Christopher Carter

Nah, remember the election is in november

June 12, 2016 - 10:30

Aiden Russell

Pfft, please. If anything the Dems will use it to further make fun of his dumb idea to close the borders to Muslims because this guy lived in the US for his entire life.

June 12, 2016 - 10:31

Brandon Sanchez

...

June 12, 2016 - 10:35

Brandon Cruz

theguardian.com/media/2016/jun/12/wikileaks-to-publish-more-hillary-clinton-emails-julian-assange
Wikileaks is going to be putting out more Clinton E-mails in the future.
Based Assange.

June 12, 2016 - 10:45

Grayson Morales

Yo, this isn't even tinfoil level shit.
This is stuff that's relatively known if you follow politics.

June 12, 2016 - 10:46

Benjamin Murphy

She still does not have the required amount of Pledged Delegates to secure the nomination.

June 12, 2016 - 10:47

Dylan Reyes

...

June 12, 2016 - 10:48

Leo Howard

Why does America exist tbh

June 12, 2016 - 10:49

Christian Morgan

sounds gay as fuck

June 12, 2016 - 10:51

Lincoln Green

jacobinmag.com/2016/06/hillary-clinton-primary-african-american-voters/

June 12, 2016 - 10:51

Samuel Young

...

June 12, 2016 - 10:54

Jacob Nelson

They are too busy getting shot.

June 12, 2016 - 12:57

Samuel Stewart

IT'S HAPPENING

And if She does not meet those demands

This part is the important part.

$hillary CTR $hills on suicide watch

June 12, 2016 - 13:31

Joshua Young

twitter.com/djjohnso/status/742074075250466817

June 12, 2016 - 13:35

Owen Price

The 2016 elections is my favorite greek tragedy

June 12, 2016 - 13:41

Justin Scott

Source?

June 12, 2016 - 13:42

Logan Harris

Was on my phone. It's on the front page of /r/politics

June 12, 2016 - 13:54

Landon King

politico.com/story/2016/06/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-224229

June 12, 2016 - 13:58

Kevin Davis

politico.com/story/2016/06/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-224229

June 12, 2016 - 14:00

Grayson Miller

nytimes.com/2016/06/13/us/politics/bernie-sanders-campaign.html?_r=0
archive.is/LCd8r
Clinton camp is definitely getting nervous, I wonder if anyone in the party has realized how badly they fucked themselves with all their Berniebro/Naive college student rhetoric.

June 12, 2016 - 18:46

Elijah Turner

Fucking Bill Maher on damage control for Hillary. His entire episode was just about criticizing socialism and Bernie

youtube.com/watch?v=jrfbWtMgyk8

June 12, 2016 - 19:39

Ryder Torres

more like SHILL Maher

June 12, 2016 - 19:42

Blake Edwards

the proles are finally waking up.

June 12, 2016 - 19:43

Juan Walker

First episode of Chris Hedges's new program on RT called "On Contact". He interviews Tariq Ali

youtube.com/watch?v=E4Tq9zdp9ZE

what do ya'll think

June 12, 2016 - 19:47

Samuel Miller

I am really wishing I could still comment on jewtube right about now.

June 12, 2016 - 20:01

Gabriel Cox

Why do you want to comment on it? Also how did you get banned?

June 12, 2016 - 20:21

Liam Martinez

Even Colbert has gone to shit doing the same thing.

June 12, 2016 - 20:27

Jacob Gonzalez

What about le current year man. He and Colbert are like the only ones still relevant

June 12, 2016 - 20:34

Kevin Davis

she can start showing her authenticity by releasing her Goldman Sachs talks she got paid for.

June 12, 2016 - 20:36

Easton Perez

youtube.com/watch?v=0lKlJ3Ed4fQ

June 12, 2016 - 20:41

Cameron Jones

iwilllookintoit.com/

June 12, 2016 - 20:50

Henry Jenkins

le wew

June 12, 2016 - 20:55

Logan Hill

So I can educate some of these dumb motherfuckers on what socialism actually is. I'm not banned, I just never signed up for that Google+ cancer, which you now need in order to comment on anything, and I have no plans to.

June 12, 2016 - 21:33

Gabriel James

Oh god, seriously?
Remember when youtube was advertised as a way for people to upload their own original content and be creative? Now it's dominated by corporate media and let's players.

June 12, 2016 - 21:53

Charles Reyes

What good will it do if the comment section is full of myopic normies? They don't tend to listen. It's all just

June 12, 2016 - 22:07

Gabriel Ortiz

Jeez, I can't count the number of amateur animator, reviewer, and analyst channels with decent production values that have switched to LPs, Skype streams, and talking head videos when they noticed they could MORE views than their skilled work "thanks" to normalfags by just talking while they sit at their computer and maybe suck at vidya. Though I guess the first outbreak of cancer happened earlier for the animators, when they shifted to YouTube from Newgrounds.

An entire generation of potential new TV talent, up in flames.

June 12, 2016 - 22:14

Jordan Gonzalez

...

June 12, 2016 - 22:47

Lincoln Scott

wsws.org/en/articles/2016/06/13/pers-j13.html

June 12, 2016 - 23:11

Henry Ortiz

The most unabashed argument for the primacy of race and gender over class issues comes from New York Times commentator Paul Krugman, who throughout the election campaign has used his column to promote Clinton and heap scorn on supporters of Sanders. In a piece published Saturday under the headline “Hillary and the Horizontals,” Krugman defines as “horizontal inequality” differences between social groupings based on race, gender, etc., as opposed to class inequality (which he refers to as “individual inequality”), measured by economic position or income. He declares, “like it or not, horizontal inequality, racial inequality above all, will define the general election.”
The Times columnist ignores the fact that support for Sanders is itself a refutation of this slanderous characterization of the working class. He also ignores the drastic shift to the right of the Democratic Party, which has long abandoned the reformist liberal program that prevailed from the 1930s to the 1960s based on limited concessions to the working class, in favor of various forms of identity politics benefiting sections of the upper-middle class.

June 12, 2016 - 23:11

Brody Allen

That's one dank remix. Fuckin saved.

June 12, 2016 - 23:13

Nicholas Morgan

Where's the sexy cosplayer?

June 12, 2016 - 23:17

Benjamin Allen

...

June 12, 2016 - 23:53

Adrian Brooks

srsly

Anyway, I always hated both Hedges and Tariq so I'm not going to watch it.

June 12, 2016 - 23:59

Nicholas Bailey

why is this so good

June 13, 2016 - 00:00

Brandon Parker

KEK

June 13, 2016 - 00:20

Austin Gray

Jesus Christ, if you talk negatively about Correct The Record on twitter, and a bunch of them respond to you with their CTR prompts.

Why are they so obsessive? They just keep DMng me with shitty logic about Hillary. Anyone else get these?

June 13, 2016 - 00:21

Samuel Cruz

holy shit my sides are gone.

June 13, 2016 - 00:27

Henry Scott

FRANKENSTEIN GANGSTERS

June 13, 2016 - 00:27

Jose Barnes

Great, just great. The state of burgerland TV network coverage has fallen so far, we're being outdone in the news business by official mouthpieces of 3rd-world dictatorships.

June 13, 2016 - 00:47

Owen Watson

SRSLY

June 13, 2016 - 00:48

Eli Gutierrez

I don't think he's an actual shill. He seems more like he just buys into the "Hillary didndu nuffin" narrative hook line and sinker.

June 13, 2016 - 01:16

Gavin Anderson

...

June 13, 2016 - 01:24

Samuel Gonzalez

...

June 13, 2016 - 01:29

Thomas Hernandez

Because they are literally paid shills whose job it is to troll endlessly for wrongthink and badtalk about themselves and anything else related to Clinton.

June 13, 2016 - 01:30

Xavier Nelson

Secular Talk: Elizabeth Warren explains Clinton endorsement
youtube.com/watch?v=gIcv6cRhXJw

Just disgusting

June 13, 2016 - 02:00

Robert Thomas

California Counts Millions Of Provisional And Mail-In Ballots, Counties Flip For Bernie And Nine More Superdelegates Drop Clinton
inquisitr.com/3193693/california-counts-millions-of-provisional-and-mail-in-ballots-counties-flip-for-bernie-and-nine-more-superdelegates-drop-clinton/

June 13, 2016 - 02:03

Ethan Thomas

...

June 13, 2016 - 02:13

Nathan Perez

I prefer Sandernistas

June 13, 2016 - 02:14

Sebastian Flores

Did Pocahontas do a line of coke before that interview? Jesus.

June 13, 2016 - 02:22

Carson Reed

Didn't the AP announce she'd clinched the nomination after she won like 4 of them? Shouldn't the loss of pledged delegates from counties flipping and those supers dropping put her below the required total?

June 13, 2016 - 02:26

Colton Richardson

Shut up you chauvinist raco-fascist she's going to be the first most historical female president and your delegate shaming isn't going to stop that.

June 13, 2016 - 02:30

Ryder Gutierrez

It's just the official count continuing, but hopefully this will throw enough sand in the the gears for us to expose straight-up cheating clear back to Arizona.

June 13, 2016 - 02:51

Isaiah Gonzalez

How is it possible to dislike Tariq Ali with his soft English/Pakistani accent, and calm criticism of neo liberalism

Don't know much about Hedges but he seems alright

June 13, 2016 - 03:33

Hunter Long

Easy: you don't focus on how he speaks, but on the content.

June 13, 2016 - 03:47

Logan King

No they don't.

June 13, 2016 - 06:54

David Green

not even gonna watch. fuck those cunts.

June 13, 2016 - 06:54

Nathaniel Garcia

Its kulinsky railing on warren for selling out

June 13, 2016 - 07:07

Owen Brooks

Easy: you don't focus on the subject, but on the phrasing

June 13, 2016 - 07:14

Justin Rodriguez

politico.com/story/2016/06/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-224229
If you STILL don't think CTR is an astroturfing operation click on the accounts spewing CTR talking points and see how many of them are actively used.
Hint: it's not very many.

June 13, 2016 - 07:23

Jeremiah Taylor

Prepare for cringe:

facebook.com/PeopleForBernie/videos/1809220042631535/

June 13, 2016 - 09:14

Nathaniel Mitchell

nytimes.com/2016/06/13/us/politics/bernie-sanders-campaign.html
I don't think this has been posted yet. Apparently bernie isn't going behind shillary.

June 13, 2016 - 10:52

Tyler Barnes

fug I forgot to remove my shitposting flag

June 13, 2016 - 10:52

Evan Moore

>politico.com/story/2016/06/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-224229
BOY HE BOUT TO DO IT
he won't be able to delude himself that she's a progressive.

June 13, 2016 - 11:21

Landon Cox

Jesus, celebrities are stupid.

June 13, 2016 - 11:40

Luis Allen

stop using this shitty Holla Forums meme, it has absolutely nothing to do with Warren or her policies

June 13, 2016 - 12:48

Nathan Cooper

it's relevant that she's a dumb liberal idpol cunt

June 13, 2016 - 12:50

Jack Martinez

then call her that

June 13, 2016 - 12:53

Jordan Brown

but she called herself pocahontas

June 13, 2016 - 12:56

Jordan Ramirez

Reposting from the other thread:

Serious question here, how many of you are leaning towards supporting Trump? Full disclosure, I'm a trump supporter, but I was wondering if I could convince you that your best chess move is also to agitate for a Trump win. I would have loved to have seen a Sanders v Trump general election but it's just not in the cards.

June 13, 2016 - 13:03

Aaron Nelson

I doubt she did that seriously.
She's a sell-out.
A better nick name would be Judas

June 13, 2016 - 13:04

Easton Bell

We have this question every day
Just scroll up and read our responses.

June 13, 2016 - 13:05

Adrian Miller

No one. Trump is just idpol: conservative flavor. He's not the lesser evil. He's not for the working class (that's why he has 300 lawsuits against him by them). They're both just evil.

June 13, 2016 - 13:13

Evan Davis

Maybe if you're low test

I want a woman who can suffocate me with her titties

June 13, 2016 - 13:15

Jayden Thomas

He might not be for the working class in the sense that he doesn't espouse your specific ideology, but he is for the working class through the conservative lens. He has taken many positions he didn't have to take simply because he wants to make America great again. Did you miss when he said he is going to make the GOP into the 'Worker's party'? Of course the current GOP isn't that, but Trump is a refutation of the GOP as defined by the neocohens being only about tax evasion.

June 13, 2016 - 13:16

Julian Nguyen

...

June 13, 2016 - 13:18

Jonathan Johnson

Pretty much

June 13, 2016 - 13:21

Grayson Johnson

then he's not for the working class

1. America was never great
2. If he was actually committed to helping the workers and by extension America he wouldn't be doing everything he can to fuck over his current employees.

talk is cheap, but let's just imagine we're in some fantasyland where he did actually want this despite it going against all of his personal and business interests to do so: how is he going to singlehandedly transform the GOP?

lol

June 13, 2016 - 13:21

Nathaniel Hill

...

June 13, 2016 - 13:22

Cooper Cook

aka moralized slavery

he'll also flip flop on everything he says because nobody supports him for his positions, they support him because they want a god-king to protect them

June 13, 2016 - 13:24

Ryan Mitchell

...

June 13, 2016 - 13:25

David Hernandez

I think you mean America was never perfect, but it was pretty great.

Do you think these people don't think they're winning the nigger lottery by having worked for Trump and have minor, dubiously litigatible grievances with which to try to bleed shekels?

By doing a real investigation into 9/11 and purging the cucks that sold us out. Why do you think the Renegade party became a thing? They're purging themselves.

Trumpism is nationalism reborn. America first.

Not an argument.

June 13, 2016 - 13:27

Isaiah Perez

condescending link time

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipse_dixit

June 13, 2016 - 13:28

William Martinez

Were you born with whatever ideology you now espouse? Does your current belief fly in the face of your previous held beliefs? Imagine how your current positions might change from the positions you'll espouse when you're 70. Trump is 70, he's had a lot of time to think about issues and he himself acknowledges his rather spotty past. It's not flip flopping. Most of his 'contradictory' statements were from before he became a politician. Find me contradictory statements using the day of his announcement of his candidacy then you'll have an argument.

June 13, 2016 - 13:31

Angel Williams

See
Spouting buzzwords is not an argument

June 13, 2016 - 13:31

Jose Ortiz

being old does not make you wise, and trump's statements doesn't indicate to me that he does much thinking at all aside from how godlike he is because he's spent most of his adult life being told this by his employees and reality TV guests.

he's flip-flopped as much during this campaign as he has throughout his life: cnn.com/2016/03/31/politics/donald-trump-positions-flip-flops/

he just tells people what they want to hear whenever it's convenient, and sometimes he's so incoherent that he contradicts himself in the same speech

June 13, 2016 - 13:39

Asher Morgan

I'm going to need a little help here, was it during the hundreds of years of chattel slavery when America was great, or during the concerted effort at wiping out the natives and taking their land? Or was it during the 19th century when all types of political fraud were widespread and there wasn't a man between your alderman and the president that wasn't corrupt? Or what about when it was waging wars of aggression against its neighbors? Or it's lengthy period of black/white apartheid and the endless litany of lynchings and totalitarian violence that it required to keep it in place? What about when it sent soldiers out to attack its own citizens, even going so far as to drop bombs on them, because they threatened business interests? Oh, speaking of threatened business interests, what about when the US took unilateral responsibility for the entire American continent to the point where any time there was a democratically elected government that they didn't like they simply overthrew it and put a dictator in its place?

I mean, it certainly couldn't have been recent, not with the two ongoing wars in the Middle East and the intermittent conflict it sparked in Libya, to say nothing of the drone assassination program that it's running without any sort of oversight whatever and in complete, flagrant disregard to the constitution.

So really, if you could help me out it would be appreciated. If you can't give me a time span I'd appreciate a date or two.

June 13, 2016 - 13:39

Carter Morris

sasuga Holla Forums

June 13, 2016 - 13:40

Kayden Hughes

Let's not forget the multiple times that the government formally persecuted its homegrown left-wing while proclaiming itself to be a bastion of freedom and liberty.

Your candidate is so shit that the liberal idiots at Salon can tear into him. Think about that.

June 13, 2016 - 13:42

Sebastian Turner

Again, most of the 'contradictory' statements were from his life as a businessman instead of since the announcement of his candidacy. Linking me to listicles is stupid, just make your argument here.

You're going to die a very unhappy life if you choose to focus on the negatives of the time as if life must be 100% free of conflict and negativity to be considered good. I'll give you one concrete definition of good: whenever we weren't in trillions of debt. Trump's isolationist policies intended on protecting and bringing back American manufacturing (isn't that who you should be thinking about?) will do great things for the country. You know, back when a guy working on the assembly line could afford to be the sole breadwinner and maybe send his kids to university without going into crippling debt.

June 13, 2016 - 13:47

Adam Powell

10/10 post, someone pls screencap

June 13, 2016 - 13:51

Lucas Fisher

this is alt-right "arguing" 101, you're going to just state over and over again ad verbatim that you are right as though it will somehow force us into believing what you do

this might work on some gaymen forum but a leftard chan is still a chan, we have plenty of experience in poor reasoning

June 13, 2016 - 13:54

Jonathan Ortiz

hmmmm trillions of debt you say

Well where could that have come from?

That was because we had a solid minimum wage and publicly funded education, and manufacturing jobs were typically in places where the cost of living was low. In California college used to be tuition free. Drumpf doesn't support any of that, so why would those people on the assembly line be able to send their kids to university without going into crippling debt? Even if they had jobs in that sector college would still cost too much.

Also Drumpf outsources his jobs to Mexico. Why would you trust someone who has never practiced what he preached?

Manufacturing is a dying industry and will never represent the American "working class" again. Nor should it. Try again.

June 13, 2016 - 14:00

Eli Torres

Hey, that's a good one. It reminds me of the time it started a war in a small south-east Asian country because they didn't like the results of the election, proceeding to spend hundreds of billions of dollars bombing it and all its surrounding neighbors–when they weren't dropping millions of liters of chemicals on their land instead.

We're not talking about good you nigger-licking asspipe. You specifically said great, so why don't you stand up in front of the class like a big boy and tell us when exactly this period of greatness was?

Lol, so, what, the Clinton administration was America's period of greatness? Is Trump going to bring back EXXXTREME advertising and Ecto-cooler while he's at it? Will he be inaugurated on the top of the Super Mega Agro-Crag?

Woopty-fuckin' doo.

No, you dumb fucker, because everyone that talks about jobs as some sort of solution to our problems is a snake-oil salesman.

Aw yeah bringing back all sorts of heavy industry to a country that can't even keep lead out of its water–hoo boy I can't wait.

You know what a fucking robot is, right? Maybe your parents have a roomba that vacuums their floor for them. You might have even heard about these "self driving" cars from google.

So here's the thing: manufacturing isn't a panacea to our problems because automation has not only devalued unskilled labor to such a degree as to make it nearly worthless but also makes the idea of bringing manufacturing back as some sort of boon entirely laughable, because…

Back in the 70s before outsourcing really took hold, factories needed hundreds or thousands of people to build the things they were building.

You know how many are needed in a car factory now? None. It's Honda (I think) that has a completely workerless manufacturing plant. They don't even turn the lights on because they don't have anyone physically there monitoring the robots. McDonalds is experimenting with a completely workerless restaurant, and there are even robots now that can fold shirts. Put maybe twenty of those into a Kohls, RFtag all the merchandise, and say "goodbye" to paying wages etc for 150 people.

So bringing back manufacturing jobs will do exactly two things for the working class: fuck and all.

June 13, 2016 - 14:01

Grayson Cruz

Also if you're going to be encouraging us to "settle" and not "focus on the negatives" we may as well vote Shillary. :^)

June 13, 2016 - 14:01

Alexander Jones

Give me one time where there wasn't any conflict with which to criticize a sitting government. One time. Just one.

It's stupid to say that any conflict invalidates the proposition that a time was better than, say, the famines following Black Tuesday.

June 13, 2016 - 14:02

Isaac Bailey

lol so the roaring 20s is your idea of American "greatness?" what the fuck do you want to vote Trump for? you should feel right at home.

June 13, 2016 - 14:04

Isaiah Martin

The point isn't that there should be no conflicts. I know Holla Forumsyps see exclusively in black and white so this may be difficult for you to grasp. The point is that America was never at a point where it could be described as "great" or even that its flaws could be excused. We have always been a horrible, murdering, imperialist superpower that oppressed its own citizens and enforced its bourgeoisie will on the world.

"Make America Great Again" is just revisionist bullshit that appeals to the recency bias. It does not even pretend to have a time period in mind that "again" refers to. It's just propaganda, which you fell for.

June 13, 2016 - 14:07

Owen Morris

Sorry, recency illusion, not recency bias.

June 13, 2016 - 14:09

Chase Cook

Yet great is subjective, and we both know I say great because it's the current slogan. Do you actually feel a burning sensation when you fellated your favorite Jew socialist? Probably not.

I think an Indian street shitter with cholera would probably think that a country + time where a factory worker could get a job an afford a decent life in a Hooverville was pretty great.

June 13, 2016 - 14:10

Elijah Mitchell

uaw.org/trump-says-uaw-members-make-less-money/

B-B-B-BUT HE'S SO GOOD FOR WORKERS

June 13, 2016 - 14:12

Dominic Anderson

You do know Hoovervilles were fucking shanty towns right?

June 13, 2016 - 14:13

Kevin James

This is your average Trumpenprole's understanding of history

June 13, 2016 - 14:14

Tyler Nguyen

Hey, you stupid faggot, I'm waiting on some answers here. When was America great? What exactly is Trump going to do to make it "great" again? Come on you dickpumping shitcock, you're here to try and convince us to vote for your toupee wearing boyfriend, so out with it.

Hey, you better shut your mouth, America Hater! Those "shanty towns" were great and Trump is going to bring us all back there again!

Hoovervilles for everyone!

June 13, 2016 - 14:14

Brandon Sullivan

AAAAAHHHAHAHAHAHAHA

June 13, 2016 - 14:15

Leo Ramirez

Literally shanty towns for homeless people thanks to the great depression

June 13, 2016 - 14:16

Easton Anderson

You're right, I meant Levittown. Dogpile all you want on my error.

June 13, 2016 - 14:16

Kayden Murphy

You're right, I meant Levittown. Dogpile all you want on my error.

June 13, 2016 - 14:17

Hunter Hill

Christ, I really need to make a compilation video of all the stupid shit Holla Forums says.
Between this, the edge lords who come here, and the people who think black people are literal orcs, there is some serious gold.

June 13, 2016 - 14:18

Jacob Morgan

Can we continue on? Levittown, not Hooverville.

Yet great is subjective, and we both know I say great because it's the current slogan. Do you actually feel a burning sensation when you fellated your favorite Jew socialist? Probably not.

I think an Indian street shitter with cholera would probably think that a country + time where a factory worker could get a job an afford a decent life in a LEVITTOWN was pretty great.

June 13, 2016 - 14:22

Ryan Ross

...

June 13, 2016 - 14:23

Nolan Martinez

FUCKING KEK.
Someone should combine that image with this

June 13, 2016 - 14:25

Ryder Nguyen

You were correct the first time, whether or not you can tell.

June 13, 2016 - 14:26

Jackson Watson

Hey, tell me how this sounds:

You don't own your house, or anything in it. In fact, you don't own anything because you aren't paid for any of the work you do. Instead, you're given vouchers which allow you to trade–at many times less the value of a dollar–items that you could then use such as washing machines, but not actually keep them. Armed guards stand at the entrances to your towns and your workplace. Oh! But don't go getting any ideas, because by law you cannot own a firearm. Oh, and not only are the guards paid to keep ruffians out, but you in, though it isn't really an issue because you can't go anywhere because you can't legally take the car past the town limits.

And I wouldn't grumble too loudly if I were you. Your fellow citizens will get extra vouchers if they rat out your discontent to their superiors, at which point you'll be immediately fired, your wife and children evicted, and you'll be penniless and alone in some godforsaken shithole.

It's called a Company Town you dumb idiot and they were also prevalent in the 1920s US

June 13, 2016 - 14:26

Asher Ortiz

I thought you wanted to keep the foreigners out? Now you want Indians coming into the country?

June 13, 2016 - 14:27

Sebastian Barnes

...

June 13, 2016 - 14:28

Carter Miller

Nice

June 13, 2016 - 14:28

William Thomas

What a fucking scumbag.
There really is no difference.

June 13, 2016 - 14:28

James Allen

Defending Hoovervilles is stupid, but can Holla Forums really argue that the American worker wasn't overall in a better economic position in the '50s-'70s? That is, without reverting to lolbertarian talking-points that it was "unearned" because those fucking white males couldn't compete with Third Worlders and women in an endless race to the bottom?

June 13, 2016 - 14:29

Wyatt Flores

Name one time and place with no downsides across the board. You never gave me an example.

I know about company towns, pretty bad stuff.

June 13, 2016 - 14:30

Aaron Cox

How about you stop being a pole-pulling supercuck and give me a time when AMERICA was GREAT like you originally claimed you malformed anal polyp.

June 13, 2016 - 14:31

Camden Ramirez

I think supporting Hillary as the "worker's candidate" invalidates any complaints they have against Trump

June 13, 2016 - 14:31

David Turner

If anything those are Third-Worldist talking points, and yes, you're correct.

But that's because we actually had a social liberal/social democratic government, as opposed to the neoliberal one we have now.

June 13, 2016 - 14:31

Logan Stewart

Sure, because of post-war economic boom. Then Reagan was used to keep productivity going as workers had fewer reasons to bother

June 13, 2016 - 14:32

Christian Fisher

Absolute madman

June 13, 2016 - 14:34

Jonathan Richardson

Never change.

Yeah, maybe for you NEETs fearing the day when you'd have to get off welfare. Having 1/5th of the country employed is dragging the country down hard.

Good point, but there's plenty of stuff that needs manufacturing by hand because the industry isn't large enough or modular enough to warrant full robotic manufacturing. Air conditioners being a notable example.

June 13, 2016 - 14:34

Sebastian Flores

But they didn't, they just said that Clinton would, of the two major parties, best represent the needs of America's workers.

June 13, 2016 - 14:34

Angel Ramirez

That's when tax rates were the highest. I highly doubt Trump want to return us to those times.

June 13, 2016 - 14:35

Nolan Sanchez

To fund world wars. We don't have that to fund currently.

June 13, 2016 - 14:36

Matthew Flores

Nice, Cripplewheels won't allow me to make this post: pastebin.com/LvRHVtKD

June 13, 2016 - 14:37

Lincoln Richardson

Not gonna bite

June 13, 2016 - 14:38

Ayden Ross

They are still both shit tbh. Also they shill for her HARD, so…

More politicians need to do this.

June 13, 2016 - 14:39

Jeremiah James

...

June 13, 2016 - 14:42

Joshua Perry

This is why you will forever be in the political cuck shed

June 13, 2016 - 14:49

Andrew Edwards

Not an argument.

June 13, 2016 - 14:52

Adam Adams

If AMERICAN GREATNESS is measured by least amount of debt then as you can plainly see here that American greatness increased under Clinton and ended almost immediately when Bush II was elected, at which point spending starts.

But hey, I can see you're a thinker, so let's see, when was America actually Debt Free?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_of_the_United_States

Oh, here it is guys, I found it, the date America was TRULY GREAT

I subsequently explained why your "valid point" is retarded in subsequent responses you dumb fucking cunt.

Have you ever even looked at a statistic? Do you even know what a statistic is?

bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t01.htm

With the US's population at something 320 million, with 151 out of 158 million people in the labor force employed, how exactly does that add up to "a fifth of the country?" Also, how is it the fault of the unemployed that had nothing to do with sending all their jobs away especially considering that American companies have been seeing record breaking profits year after year for multiple decades now.

And who is going to buy these air conditioners, retard? Will Americans be able to afford these hand-made air conditioners with their 7.25 minimum wage you incredible cucklord?

It's fine, I figured out the answer for you you dishonest little wanker.

June 13, 2016 - 14:53

Bentley Butler

Trump goes full /x/ on the Orlando shooting
motherjones.com/politics/2016/06/donald-trump-orlanda-birther-like-conspiracy-theory

June 13, 2016 - 14:54

William Lopez

...

June 13, 2016 - 15:02

Aiden Robinson

Titties are for infants. Real men prefer asses.

June 13, 2016 - 15:02

Robert Williams

lol

June 13, 2016 - 15:03

Samuel Moore

Exactly. Large tits = motherly, nourishing = what "real" men want, to have children with.

June 13, 2016 - 15:04

Jaxson Walker

Why not both m8

Honestly you can have whatever tastes you want don't see the need to argue outside of just taking the piss

June 13, 2016 - 15:08

Brayden Adams

Which had already happened and were more beneficial than draining.

June 13, 2016 - 15:09

Hudson Martin

Get your sophistry out of my fucking face. Fat cow udders are the obvious hallmark of the decadent and feckless bourgeois female. A Real Man and Heroic Proletarian would seek a woman in prime physical condition–the hallmark of a well ordered and employed mind, signified, as science tells us, by an ample and well shaped posterior which, haha, I guess I should tell you, since wide hips are what you have children with, not chest fat.

Shapely and muscular buttocks are the identifier of the die Uberfrau, the only suitable candidate for love and companionship.

June 13, 2016 - 15:10

Jace Miller

...

June 13, 2016 - 15:11

Ayden Barnes

Andrew Jackson
Our greatest hero
Our greatest leader

June 13, 2016 - 15:11

Ryan Rivera

Don't forget dat ass. Wide hips are good for child bearing.

Though I prefer dicksucking most of all tbh.

June 13, 2016 - 15:12

Gabriel Phillips

I would only vote for Trump if his plan to Make America Great Again tm was to go back in time and bring back Andrew Jackson to run in his place.

June 13, 2016 - 15:13

Jacob Carter

And how

June 13, 2016 - 15:15

Mason Evans

Get a load of this revisionism

Tell me user, do you know what other animal has breasts? I don't mean mammary glands (as, well, all mammals have them) but the actual boobs. Give up?

The answer is NONE. That's right, if there's one thing that separates man from beast is it full, heaving bosoms. When (wo)man learned to stand on her feet she also developed boobs to keep her moving forward.

Breasts are evolution. Breasts are civilization. Breasts are progress. Breasts are life itself! And that is the very essence of socialism.

June 13, 2016 - 15:16

Chase Walker

Best of both worlds.

June 13, 2016 - 15:19

Mason Robinson

/thread

June 13, 2016 - 15:25

Daniel Stewart

...

June 13, 2016 - 15:31

Jonathan James

yeah the servers are acting EXTREMELY weird.

June 13, 2016 - 15:59

Jacob Martin

Judas would have at least endorsed Sanders before Massachusetts voted.

June 13, 2016 - 21:56

Isaac Kelly

Absolutely nobody here trusts a single word out of Trump's mouth, which is what IMHO makes him potentially superior to Hillary, who has an excellent record of promising horrible things and doing them. All the good things he says (kill neolib offshoring and immigration, kill neocon wars, Social Security is a good thing, etc…) are inherently specious because of contradictory things he says against them (offshoring isn't due to labor arbitrage, "great big beautiful DOOR", terrorism rabble rabble, lower taxes and slash services, etc…). Basically this

The only thing I feel reasonably sure Trump will do is purge IdPol from the left, allowing leftism to function normally again. Even if that means more IdPol on the right, it's probably worth it.

Bitching is fun, but that is simply contrarian. Like says, America was, at one time, doing better than it is now. During the New Deal era from about the 1930s to the early 1970s, everything was headed up, people were doing better, hope was being fulfilled, then it stopped. From the mid-1970s to the present day, things have been getting worse for everyone, and attitudes toward the future have been justly grim. Maybe America was never great, but it was definitely good, and headed in a great direction, embodying greatness.

Also

Get raped

June 13, 2016 - 22:26

Aiden Kelly

CALIFORNIA STOLEN FROM SANDERS.

UNPRECEDENTED VOTER FRAUD.

SPREAD THIS VIDEO M80S

youtube.com/watch?v=MoGeDGHmwJU

June 13, 2016 - 22:30

William Bell

I have no idea why you think this. The only way to do that is for actual leftists to come out against PC.

June 13, 2016 - 22:33

Gabriel Cook

SPREAD SPREAD SPREAD!

June 13, 2016 - 22:43

Gabriel Morales

however I'm watching it anyway. hopefully it will be informative

June 13, 2016 - 22:56

Ayden Sanchez

holy fucking shit at the NPP provisional ballots. that is insane. literally worse than many 3rd world democracies.

June 13, 2016 - 22:59

Bentley Stewart

and more voter purges and flipping.

June 13, 2016 - 23:03

Jonathan Rivera

If Sanders doesn't have the balls to take this to court and overturn the rigged votes, I don't think he deserves the nomination anyway. This is insanely disgusting shit and he needs to expose it.

June 13, 2016 - 23:05

Luis Watson

How can he win?

June 13, 2016 - 23:08

Tyler Wilson

californian here, this shit was so annoying. as an NPP voter, and signed up for mail in voting, going to a polling place really fukt me. they required a provisional ballot and I essentially had to reregister to vote on the spot. they threw my ballot into a pink lil slip when I was done and they tossed it under the ballot machine.

June 13, 2016 - 23:08

Gabriel Reed

Knowing what you know now, would you have said the same thing of Gore when he shot down the Senatorial investigation into his own presidency being stolen from him?

Sanders is the best thing that's come down the pipe for America since the 1930s, even if he's too much of a cuck to stand against Shillary, we need to fight for him, and show him that strength is a tactic that works.

The same way Trump did: Side with voters, and tell the party machine to follow along or be trampled to death.

June 13, 2016 - 23:10

Henry Wright

Tits are mostly fat. Milk production happens in the mammary glands, which have nothing to do with the amount of fat in any given tit. A small chested woman can breast feed just as well as a large chested woman. Besides, mammary glands only really get geared up during pregnancy. Wide hips, however, are skeletal. Hips widen during pregnancy also, but they're much more vital to child-bearing and there's less you can do to change them.

Besides, big titties end up looking masculine when it makes the wearer top heavy in the way that men are wider in their upper body and thinner in their lower.

June 13, 2016 - 23:11

Evan Kelly

also am i the only one who would smash that poll worker

June 13, 2016 - 23:12

Jaxon Mitchell

Yes, and Gore was a shit-tier liberal idiot anyway. What's your point?

Sure we should spread the word that it was rigged, but it'll only be a dent compared to what Bernie could do if he stood up to the rigging.

The media doesn't control the narrative any more. If Bernie laid out a convincing argument about the rigging, brought it into court, and disseminated the info to S4P, the uproar would make it impossible for the media to shape this as "sore loser."

June 13, 2016 - 23:15

Adrian Torres

yeah she is cute as hell, especially how nervous she is on camera

June 13, 2016 - 23:16

Jace Walker

I originally thought this was a joke at first. Now i believe you guys; I didn't realize it was this serious. Holy fucking shit that's insane.

June 13, 2016 - 23:34

Carson Harris

I am 2000 years old, and this is the biggest autistic bullshit I have ever seen in my entire lifetime.

June 13, 2016 - 23:36

James Foster

Also registered as a NPP mail in voter. When I called the local elections office they told me I needed to register as a Democrat in order to vote in the primary as a mail in voter, despite the elections website saying something different. Still managed to vote but now I'm registered democrat. I will at least get the very minor satisfaction of changing to NPP the moment Shill dog officials get the nomination.

June 13, 2016 - 23:37

Levi Taylor

That was my first thought. Especially with the voice.
He also made some nonobjective irrelevant comments in favor of Sanders, but it is pretty clear. That primary was rigged.

June 13, 2016 - 23:40

Robert Ortiz

Breast size actually does effect milk storage capacity, but has little effect on production volume. Breasts are normally 1:1 gland:fat, 2:1 when lactating.

June 13, 2016 - 23:44

Jordan Rodriguez

Debbie called this out first - youtube.com/watch?v=seezeYXdWO8

no, not wasserman-shultz

My vote was purged in NY.. My registration was changed to republican without my knowledge. This is just one of the methods that was used in CA.

June 13, 2016 - 23:45

Evan James

Shit like this is why running as an independent would be pointless
Bernie needs to get his Sanderistas together and storm the White House

June 13, 2016 - 23:50

Levi Young

Anatomically correct demonstration with timestamp plox :^)

June 13, 2016 - 23:53

Connor Perez

Are you really going to argue this doesn't look masculine? The first two are just straight up "the (fake) tits are too big for the hips/ass, dwarfing them when they should look bigger", and they give the same general appearance of the second too: shoulders/upper body being too wide for the hips/lower body, which are masculine proportions.

Damn. That's pretty interesting. Thanks for the correction!

June 14, 2016 - 00:01

Nathan Allen

I seriously want to know what happens in the media if Sanders actually secures a win in CA, especially given how all the MSM already spewed their load for Clinton.

June 14, 2016 - 00:02

Colton Jenkins

The first one would look better if she were natural.

All of them seem to have some other bodily proportioning other than their tits that give them a more masculine look. There's plenty of women with very large chests that don't look like guys.

June 14, 2016 - 00:07

Ryan Reyes

I hope you're just memeing on us because this is the stupidest shit I've ever read

June 14, 2016 - 00:09

Easton Hernandez

Can you read? It's when they become disproportionate and make shoulders/rib cage appear wider than the hips, which are the defining feminine feature and should be the widest or almost the widest part of a woman's body.

June 14, 2016 - 00:14

Chase Watson

Okay buddy

June 14, 2016 - 00:16

Cameron Rodriguez

By shoulders I mean where the inner part of your arms start. If you're a woman, they should be that wide or wider. I thought people would catch what I was trying to say.

June 14, 2016 - 00:19

Cooper Wright

Nein. Asses came first, friend. Asses are what we mate with, the breasts are merely secondary sexual traits , a poor imitation of the buttocks, that doesn't even have any orifices with which to explore. Now, I'm clearly an ass man, and you a breast lover, butt I can attest that, having seen and on occasion felt both, I;d much rather have a pear-shaped voluptuous maiden than a pair of fatty tissues stuck to a twig . As another fine gentleman and comrade in this thread concurred, there's no reason we can;t desire both, just one is clearly more useful when it cums to choosing the more suitable mate for copulation and sexual gratification. Though granted, everyone's tastes when it comes to the ideal bodytype is different and if you truly find the Auschwitz aesthetic your cup of tea, more power to you although Cosmo ain't got nothin to do with my selection. In conclusion, you my other brethren cannot deny this fact - that when a girl walks in with an ittybitty waist and a big round thing in your face, you get SPR- will begin to become aroused . No?

June 14, 2016 - 00:50

Aaron Barnes

If we're gonna post autistic shit let's at least post political autistic shit

June 14, 2016 - 01:11

John Scott

Boobs technically have more orifices than the butt.

June 14, 2016 - 01:13

Brody Phillips

...

June 14, 2016 - 01:17

Lincoln Nguyen

Gross.

June 14, 2016 - 01:18

Michael Ramirez

Everything in this post was written by a fucking idiot.

June 14, 2016 - 01:19

Xavier Ramirez

Nigger that's a cheese variety pack.

June 14, 2016 - 01:19

Ian Allen

just amazing.

June 14, 2016 - 01:21

Dylan Martinez

Call it whatever you want. I like my asses to have shape. I don't want fuck the Michelin man.

June 14, 2016 - 01:22

Brayden Diaz

They will melt the fuck down, which is why they're doing everything they can to declare Hillary the winner asap.

June 14, 2016 - 01:24

Isaac Ward

If you can't handle her at her worst, you don't deserve her at her best.

June 14, 2016 - 01:27

Jose King

In the end, yeah, but some external factor breaking their stranglehold certainly wouldn't hurt. Think of the east-west alliance in WWII.

Former, latter, or both?

June 14, 2016 - 01:31

Aiden Johnson

No, you're just a fucking retard trumpcuck and I don't have the time to explain why you're hopelessly retarded right now.

June 14, 2016 - 01:35

Camden Wright

youtube.com/watch?v=UjQU87dgFWw

"Hillary Clinton Admits Some Clinton Foundation Donations "Slipped Through the Cracks""

June 14, 2016 - 03:20

Logan Taylor

No one here gives a fuck about what you're selling, Trumpenprole. We all know better. We read.

June 14, 2016 - 03:49

Gavin Bailey

How would this race look like if Trump had never sperged out over muslims with the whole torture/ban/kill civilians autism?

June 14, 2016 - 04:04

Isaiah Thomas

Same, imo.

June 14, 2016 - 04:13

Aaron Thomas

About the same, I can't think of any way he could've worded practically any unique thing he says without triggering people:
Racism!
Protectionism! Isolationism! Nationalism! Racism!
Racism!
Fascism!

June 14, 2016 - 04:15

Caleb Johnson

Shillarybots wouldn't have any legitimate argument for why their coporate baby-eater is supposed to be "better".

Trump could be hitting her hard on the warhawk angle which might give him an edge he hasn't had before. However he might also not have as much support from his base if he hadn't gone off on brown people in the first place. In the end, nobody really gives that much of a shit about illegal Mexicans - His support I think mainly comes from people who want the nation to stop sucking Islam's cock.

So overall he might actually end up less successful.

June 14, 2016 - 04:18

Josiah Baker

Fun fact: There was never a single suicide bombing in the history of Iraq before we invaded. We've also killed approximately 175,000 civilians by invading, according to iraqbodycount.org/

We sure have been sucking Islam's dick, though.

June 14, 2016 - 05:23

Brayden Diaz

:( The before & after pictures of Libya are also very telling. Did this shit start with us intervening in Iran, decades back? It's like the US government can't allow peace there or something, based on basically all of our foreign policy in the region. Our actions in Iran & the aftermath really say a lot, imo.

And iirc, the Tamil Tigers are often credited with "pioneering" suicide bombing, although they were not religiously motivated. We didn't have anything to do with that situation though; they were fighting in Sri Lanka for civil rights.. It ended really badly. Kind of related to what you mention; just popped in my head & thought I'd mention that, too.

June 14, 2016 - 05:38

Kayden James

tl;dw?
2euphoria4me

June 14, 2016 - 06:06

Justin Cruz

Mate, where have you been? We've been seeing this same shit in half the primaries. The whole system is like this.

June 14, 2016 - 07:01

Brayden Adams

If this were Europe, you'd have a point, but it's all hispanics here. Same thing, nice cheap slave labor, with a dash of idpol on each side (racism on the right, fawning virtue signaling on the left) to discredit legitimate economic opposition from anyone.

The destruction of sedate, modern secularism in the Muslim world was mostly realpolitik from the great powers. It started with the British backing Arab nomads to knock over the (then allied with the Central Powers) Ottomans in WWI. Then in the Cold War, the natural allies of the Warsaw Pact were all secularists and pan-Arabists, so the easiest opposition NATO could muster were religious fundies. Mix in constant betrayals and a downward spiral of prosperity, poof, the bubbling pit of backward sectarian insanity that is today's Mideast.

I heard another theory about fanatical Japanese Maotists on the run teaching Palestinians to kamikaze themselves.

June 14, 2016 - 07:03

Jordan Gonzalez

telesurtv.net/english/news/Clinton-Promises-Surge-in-US-Spying-After-Orlando-Attack-20160614-0020.html
Clinton Promises 'Surge' in US Spying After Orlando Attack
Technological feudalism is progressive and feminist now.

June 14, 2016 - 09:36

Blake Robinson

...

June 14, 2016 - 09:48

Brody Young

What are the chances vital components in the data net are outsourced to private industry conglomerates.

"Google openly being being sold tax money by democrats"

June 14, 2016 - 09:55

Angel Bailey

"""While Clinton did not detail what her effort would entail, she said she wants technology companies to be more cooperative to government requests for help in countering online propaganda, tracking patterns in social media and intercepting communications"""

No source for it but holy fuck if it's a true to life quote.

June 14, 2016 - 09:57

Austin Cook

Isn't this exactly what Trump said he wanted to do a while back?

June 14, 2016 - 10:34

Cooper Barnes

It's pretty much guaranteed. They're already outsourcing Torture and War, why not espionage?

June 14, 2016 - 10:59

Christian Wood

yeah they were being genocided. if you look at the self-immolating monks they have over there, it kinda makes sense that suicide bombing would originate there. anyway, the CIA observed it and then trained muslims on how to do it to.

June 14, 2016 - 11:00

Carter Collins

when we say they're the same we're not kidding.
-t. hillary cunton
techdirt.com/articles/20151207/21225233018/two-leading-presidential-candidates-clinton-trump-both-mocked-free-speech-internet.shtml

June 14, 2016 - 11:32

Oliver Anderson

I honestly don't understand why you aren't voting for him.

June 14, 2016 - 11:46

Daniel Miller

kek

June 14, 2016 - 11:47

Daniel Scott

IT'S HAPPENING

==JUST RECEIVED EMAIL FROM BERNIE WITH SUBJECT: THE POLITICAL REVOLUTION CONINUES

In the email he invited people for a livestream on Thursday where he will make a huge announcement. Key things that are mentioned:

He mentions that even though DC votes finish tonight, the revolution is going to continue. Revolution requires risk.

THEN HE HINTS THAT HE IS GOING TO RUN INDEPENDENT

June 14, 2016 - 11:58

Jaxson Garcia

...

June 14, 2016 - 12:01

Julian Cook

when we say they're the same we're not kidding.
-t. hillary cunton
techdirt.com/articles/20151207/21225233018/two-leading-presidential-candidates-clinton-trump-both-mocked-free-speech-internet.shtml
/

June 14, 2016 - 12:01

Landon Powell

he doesn't really imply anything like that in the email. I think he's going to put all his focus into downballot progressives after this primary. there will also probably be a big focus on electoral reform.

June 14, 2016 - 12:44

Lincoln Smith

Let's add washingtonpost to the list of publications banned by Trump.
youtube.com/watch?v=0nfWArg3ZxU
washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/trump-revokes-post-press-credentials-calling-the-paper-dishonest-and-phony/2016/06/13/f9a61a72-31aa-11e6-95c0-2a6873031302_story.html

June 14, 2016 - 12:51

Samuel Jackson

...

June 14, 2016 - 13:03

Kevin Allen

here u go comr8

June 14, 2016 - 13:48

Brayden Morales

I think it could be said that there were particular moments in America's history where it sort of lurched in the general direction of greatness, however reluctantly.

June 14, 2016 - 14:29

Liam Fisher

God I hope so. I want this motherfucker to steal congress and tear down the party down from the inside out.

June 14, 2016 - 14:30

Brayden Price

wise words

June 14, 2016 - 14:44

Isaac Lee

csmonitor.com/World/Global-News/2016/0614/Is-Trump-India-s-savior-as-one-Delhi-group-says
gee, who would have thunk it?

June 14, 2016 - 14:51

Alexander Long

BUILD A SHITTING STREET.

June 14, 2016 - 14:55

James Roberts

Jesus fucking christ
They're all scumbags, purge them all

June 14, 2016 - 14:56

Jason Lewis

And make Pakistan pay for it

June 14, 2016 - 14:58

Samuel Sullivan

VOTE GREEN

June 14, 2016 - 15:03

Jose Young

well said

June 14, 2016 - 15:03

Brandon Martin

HAPPENING HAPPENING HAPPENING
RUSSIAN HACKERS BREACH DNC DATABASE
usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/14/russia-hack-democratic-national-committee-trump/85867116/

June 14, 2016 - 15:28

Nolan Clark

...

June 14, 2016 - 16:08

Carter Watson

nytimes.com/2016/06/12/us/laid-off-americans-required-to-zip-lips-on-way-out-grow-bolder.html

June 14, 2016 - 16:08

Gabriel Gonzalez

I love you, Mr. Pena

June 14, 2016 - 16:12

Jacob Wilson

Even Hispanics are feeling the sting of unbridled corporatism-dominated globalization.

June 14, 2016 - 16:24

Tyler King

t. liberals

June 14, 2016 - 16:33

Chase Collins

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June 14, 2016 - 16:55

Julian Morris

This adds merit to the Bernie Sanders soviet-agent theory pasta

June 14, 2016 - 18:51

Blake White

...

June 14, 2016 - 19:41

Justin Wood

It's long been known that the primary purpose of visas like H-1B is to give American jobs to temps, who are then sent back overseas, job and all. Basically, yet another way to offshore:
epi.org/blog/top-10-h1b-guestworker-offshore-outsourcing/

June 14, 2016 - 19:46

Josiah Smith

jacobinmag.com/2016/06/bernie-sanders-american-left-socialism-movements/
It’s Not Over
Jacobin talks about moving forward after the elections

June 14, 2016 - 21:46

Kevin Long

jacobinmag.com/2016/06/bernie-sanders-american-left-socialism-movements/
It’s Not Over
Jacobin talks about moving forward after the elections.

June 14, 2016 - 21:48

Lucas Hughes

jacobinmag.com/2016/06/bernie-sanders-american-left-socialism-movements/
It’s Not Over
Jacobin talks about the left moving forward after the elections.

June 14, 2016 - 21:49

Xavier Nguyen

What do you guys think of this documentary?

youtube.com/watch?list=PLD31E34390C5017E8&v=ekkXHnSrlwY

"The Greatest Truth Never Told"

They also have a good piece on Trump
youtube.com/watch?v=f2AZw4Ql_6Y&index=1&list=PLNK_isA40yp3ociN4ioBYr8xIQJij7SYy

Seems like good beginner stuff, to me.

June 15, 2016 - 01:52

Robert Hernandez

>you can only le hear le Truth here documentary
truly idiotic

June 15, 2016 - 03:02

Dominic Hernandez

Did it even say that?

You should watch the Trump video. Somehow I think it will speak to you.

June 15, 2016 - 03:13

Parker Martinez

Damn you, electricity demon.

June 15, 2016 - 03:15

Joseph Robinson

>Glenn Beck-tier goldsilverbuggery scam

June 15, 2016 - 04:11

Luis Powell

I just love the quality site design here on 8ch.net

June 15, 2016 - 04:36

Colton Jenkins

I noticed some visuals related to silver, but I'm hours into the doc and they haven't mentioned silver once.

I'm looking for some criticism on the actual content, lad.

June 15, 2016 - 04:44

James Cooper

...

June 15, 2016 - 04:54

Colton Thompson

C.R.E.A.M.
The focusing on money in the beginning of it isn't what it's all about, but a common theme. I'd say it more-so touts a classical education and thinking logically/for yourself.

June 15, 2016 - 04:55

Christian King

youtube.com/watch?v=PBwAxmrE194
For those who don't get the reference.

June 15, 2016 - 05:03

Jeremiah Price

It's a trillion hours long (all I've gotten out of it so far is "ALP Ayncrap 'libertarianism' yay!"), but right in the description of the first video is naked ad copy for silver bullion coins, hardcopy propaganda videos, and a classical pyramid-scheme pay subscription newsletter.

June 15, 2016 - 05:15

Jeremiah Rodriguez

It's like 3 or four. And I've been watching it for some time and haven't gotten bored.

That's what I thought at first, but it just gives one quote from her. It covers a lot of stuff. It has George Carlin, quotes from Voltaire, Mark Twain, many different classical philosophers. It's got some good content. It really starts at around video 19 to "24. Think Outside of the Cell".

Eh, I didn't notice that. That's not cool, but still, it shouldn't be discounted because of this. It's a free documentary. If they were charging for it I'd obviously have looked it up to stream for free, anyway.

I don't know about all this. The news letter maybe goes to the second point, which I don't like. But as far as propaganda, I hadn't seen any.

And I'm still asking about actual criticism of the content, I guess, overall.

June 15, 2016 - 05:31

Bentley Gomez

dear god

June 15, 2016 - 05:36

Logan Price

Lmao, well, to be fair I've been listening to music in between, too.

June 15, 2016 - 05:37

Easton Hernandez

I'm going to be frankly honest, I would not want to work with any Leninists. Socdems are more greenpilled than anyone gives then credit for even if they don't read. Phug CPUSA and probably also phug the anarchist in the corner there depending on how well he understands historical materialism.

June 15, 2016 - 06:34

Joshua Cox

What does it mean to be a Leninist? I know Lenin was Stalin's mentor, but that's it. Also what's greenpilled?

yes I'm a newfag to leftism

June 15, 2016 - 07:30

Noah Hall

...

June 15, 2016 - 07:49

Jason Powell

...

June 15, 2016 - 07:50

Andrew White

...

June 15, 2016 - 07:50

Josiah Parker

...

June 15, 2016 - 07:51

Nathaniel Sanchez

...

June 15, 2016 - 07:52

Joseph Lee

...

June 15, 2016 - 07:53

Zachary Kelly

...

June 15, 2016 - 07:54

Alexander Bennett

I literally just made up that term because redpilled has been stolen by reactionaries, it doesn't mean anything other than "awake to their situation and the solutions on a deeper level than most people".

Leninism is an incredibly broad spectral of philosophies representing probably more than half of leftists about the road to communism and what to do in the meantime united by all of them being shit various concepts like a representative democracy consisting of workers, negative attitudes towards grassroots participation on the grounds that most normies have no idea what the fuck they're doing, "democratic centralism" (which means a lot of things but among them are not disputing official party policy after its put in place, letting government control everything, and economic planning), and, most distressingly, a disregard for human rights if they think it preserves the revolution (read: the bourgeois party that wants to keep itself in power) as well as generally giving government too much credit. Other socialists see the problems they raise and propose other solutions- a direct democracy, a stronger education system, and decentralization. Decentralization is seen by people like me as stronger over all because if an agency of government or a corporation or something is a weak point it will be more likely to fall than in a more centralized system, but if it falls it won't bring everything else down with it, and also elitism and corruption will be less magnified.

We love newfags. I was once a socdem, and before that a libertarian, and before that a fundie.

June 15, 2016 - 07:54

Anthony Bailey

...

June 15, 2016 - 07:55

Evan Allen

Oh yeah, Zizek is a Leninist as the guy above shows. But he's kind of more out of the box than most Leninists. Most Leninists, even Trots who disapprove of many aspects of the Soviet Union, seem to think "we need to do things exactly like the Soviet Union but fix x and y and leave everything else exactly the same".
He's still wrong about those things though lmao.

June 15, 2016 - 07:57

Kayden Sanders

Newfags are tasty.

June 15, 2016 - 07:59

Ryan Lopez

Allright, got to vid 29 before concluding it just repeats itself over and over. My initial characterization as "strong independent individualist who don't need no collective" lolbertarian survivalism mixed with all the usual "baby's first redpill" out-of-context celeb quotes and sprinkles of Oriental business team-building lecture pseudomysticism was correct.

So far as unique claims, the gibberish about "debt-based money" and a "debt crisis" fueled by "rampant consumerism" is based on a common but easily debunked delusion that an infinite spiral of debt is crushing the entire economy. In fact, the economy as a whole and the wealth it generates has grown at about the same rate as debt:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_position_of_the_United_States

The primary reasons this misconception seems believable to most people are that income and wealth have been sucked out of the lower classes, while debt has been heaped onto them; and that most people are blithely unaware of economic sectors outside lower-class household finance and financial transactions from other sectors that directly interact with it. This is also why a few trillion in delinquent consumer debt, rather than the inestimably huge financial derivatives market, seems like a plausible threat to an economy worth hundreds of trillions.

"The system" is doing perfectly fine, and the only thing that could possibly upend it is if the upper classes squeeze the lower classes too hard, too fast for the "boiling frog" effect to be overwhelmed, sparking class consciousness.

tl;dr it's about class war, not the economy

Leninism is another term for Bolshevism, which is the "state capitalist" flavor of cryptofascist pseudo-Marxism that corrupted and destroyed the anarchocommunist 3rd International, creating the USSR, PRoC, and other hellholes we know and love.

The green pill is a joke about Gnosticism and conspiracy theories

June 15, 2016 - 08:00

Jack Cook

...

June 15, 2016 - 08:03

Alexander Green

Lol you said it more strongly worded than I ever could. Remove knish.

June 15, 2016 - 08:04

Aiden Perry

gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=BBAF41BDD4173BE65E5DCFC36CD1E834

June 15, 2016 - 08:06

Jack Cooper

gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=BD8732FC02139249762918A4C093565B

June 15, 2016 - 08:07

Brandon Turner

Dude Jesus Christ cool it with the posting

June 15, 2016 - 08:13

Levi Garcia

...

June 15, 2016 - 08:21

Zachary Green

Typical Leninist. Nobody gives a fuck about your gay videos and links. Find a way to put them in one post or get out.

June 15, 2016 - 08:23

Lincoln Reed

This is what I was looking for; some conversation. I knew a lot of it was beginner stuff, but wanted someone else to weigh in. It was made around '08-'12(prime lolbertarian popularization time), so I took a lot of the economic talk with that perspective.

Tbh, the economic talk, though an undercurrent of the doc, I wasn't as much focused on. It does talk about collectivism and how we're stronger together. It references "divide and conquer" as well.

Seems pretty accurate. For that reason, I don't call it a complete waste of time. I was kind of thinking of it as a "poor man's philosophy".

So the US can continue on its path of debt, because we have a large working population contributing tax dollars, etc, who either don't or are unable to question the status quo or change paths easily? Is our only hope for revolution having another complete crash where so many will have nothing again?

Thanks for the input, user.

June 15, 2016 - 08:24

Christopher Allen

...

June 15, 2016 - 08:26

Jordan Clark

2016 Democratic Primaries: Sanders did much better in states with Paper Ballots

>This [drive.google.com/file/d/0B6mLpCEIGEYGYl9RZWFRcmpsZk0/view?pref=2&pli=1] is an excellent analysis of the Democratic primaries from Axel Geijsel of Tilburg University -(The Netherlands) and Rodolfo Cortes Barragan of Stanford University (U.S.A.) .

[pic]

>Steven D of caucus99percent.com: posted this note [caucus99percent.com/content/election-fraud-study-authors-respond-critics]: This is a very long post, and contains the response of the authors of the study,“Are we witnessing a dishonest election? A between state comparison based on the used voting procedures of the 2016 Democratic Party Primary for the Presidency of the United States of America,” to critics who posted highly negative and derogatory comments to my initial blog post on this matter at Booman Tribune. Unless you are a stat geek, feel free to stop reading when you reach the section marked Attachment.

June 15, 2016 - 08:27

Ayden Gray

Use links nigger.

June 15, 2016 - 08:28

Noah Sullivan

>In short, exit polling works using a margin of error, you will always expect it to be somewhat off the final result. This is often mentioned as being the margin of error, often put at 95%, it indicates that there’s a 95% chance that the final result will lie within this margin. In exit polling this is often calculated as lying around 3%. The bigger the difference, the smaller the chance that the result is legitimate. This is because although those exit polls are not 100% accurate, they’re accurate enough to use them as a reference point. In contrast to the idea that probably 1 out of 20 results will differ. Our results showed that (relatively) a huge amount of states differed. This would lead to two possibilities, a) the Sanders supporters are FAR more willing to take the exit polls, or b) there is election fraud at play.

Fuck off retard.

June 15, 2016 - 08:30

Adrian Reed

I don't mind the Zizek posting.

June 15, 2016 - 08:30

Mason Edwards

Yes, and lets upvote those links too. But first, let's register an account.
>>>/reddit/

June 15, 2016 - 08:32

Jackson Bailey

Gay post faggot. Back to Holla Forums.

June 15, 2016 - 08:37

Levi Nelson

He's got good bants.

June 15, 2016 - 08:38

Joshua Walker

You're interrupting conversation and sharing, just to shitpost at this point.

June 15, 2016 - 08:39

Julian Morris

America LITERALLY not a democracy

June 15, 2016 - 08:44

Austin Morris

Watching this & seeing him talk more, I was wondering, how much coke does he do? I don't see anything wrong with it if he does, of course. I always liked uppers because of the great conversation that follows. Does he do coke or is he just naturally like this?

June 15, 2016 - 08:49

Brandon Cox

I give a fuck. They're quite informative. He should post as much as he wants

June 15, 2016 - 08:49

Isaac Hernandez

I forget, but I think you can upload multiple videos in a single post, just like images.

Me neither, he may nominally be a postmodernist and LM, but the actual positions he extols under the rhetoric are strongly in line with mine pretty much all the time.

June 15, 2016 - 08:50

Nathan Ross

Probably a bit but I think he's just riddled with nervous tics to be honest

June 15, 2016 - 08:51

Isaiah Barnes

Typical Leninist apologetics.

June 15, 2016 - 08:56

James Ward

youtube.com/watch?v=k7tABlhd_u4

Not American Elections related but it looks like shit got pretty real in France yesterday

God I wish Philly would look like this

June 15, 2016 - 08:59

James Rogers

Fuck off

June 15, 2016 - 09:09

Sebastian Sanders

lol why u so angry user

June 15, 2016 - 09:17

Oliver Long

...

June 15, 2016 - 09:22

Luke Bailey

What would you guys do it you were an entryist and were working in something such as CTR?

June 15, 2016 - 10:15

Brayden Jenkins

Too bad. The protesters will be forced into the "Free Speech Zone" in the park across the street from the Wells Fargo Center.

June 15, 2016 - 10:19

John Jones

Will Trump win the Stalinist vote?

Consider the following:

June 15, 2016 - 10:31

Logan Wright

Will Trump institute a Holodomor in the rural south?

June 15, 2016 - 10:39

Jaxson Martinez

...

June 15, 2016 - 11:19

Benjamin Parker

Hodor.

June 15, 2016 - 11:24

Connor Cook

Not entirely far-fetched in principle:
motherjones.com/tom-philpott/2011/09/un-wall-street-speculation-fuels-global-hunger

June 15, 2016 - 11:55

Jordan Myers

Your post is very confusing as to who is speaking to whom. Got an actual link?

June 15, 2016 - 12:19

Robert Murphy

Oh shit, I'm sorry, I thought I included it.

richardcharnin.wordpress.com/2016/06/15/2016-democratic-primaries-study-sanders-did-much-better-in-states-with-paper-ballots/

June 15, 2016 - 13:09

Isaac Myers

...

June 15, 2016 - 13:23

Luis Collins

assets.documentcloud.org/documents/2861644/Hackers-Reportedly-Stole-The-DNC-s-Opposition.pdf

DNC oppo research on Trump leaked.

It's pathetic. They're more incompetent than I thought.

June 15, 2016 - 14:16

Andrew Cook

...

June 15, 2016 - 14:21

Juan Bell

trump is so good for workers you guys

June 15, 2016 - 14:30

Caleb Sullivan

...

June 15, 2016 - 14:31

Christopher Nelson

Hoby shied, I hope they have one on Sanders. Can you imagine the reaction?

June 15, 2016 - 14:31

Levi Jackson

The stuff on NAFTA and TPP is hilarious.

June 15, 2016 - 14:31

Joshua Hall

What does it mean?

June 15, 2016 - 14:32

Grayson Price

...

June 15, 2016 - 14:32

Ian Flores

nigga gives less than zero fucks god damn

June 15, 2016 - 14:33

Aiden Perry

cheeky breeki

June 15, 2016 - 14:34

Oliver Anderson

It means Operation Perestroika is proceeding exactly as planned, comrade.

June 15, 2016 - 14:35

Nicholas Murphy

>The Lawyer Representing The Undocumented Immigrants Was Threatened By Somebody Claiming To Be Named John Baron, A Pseudonym Trump Admitted To Using. “The lawyer representing the Polish Brigade had reported receiving a call from someone who identified himself as ‘John Baron’ and said Trump was ready to hit the lawyer with a $100 million lawsuit if he kept causing trouble. Trump now acknowledged on the stand that he had used the pseudonym ‘John Baron,’ as had one of his assistants. But Trump insisted that his use of it was only long after the completion of the Fifth Avenue tower, which became the first of many properties on which he so rapturously bestowed his real surname.” [Daily Beast, 7/8/15]

June 15, 2016 - 14:35

Justin Diaz

You know, it's funny watching the Shillbots get all pissy that Sanders is making demands and are defending shit like super delegates.

I think my favorite defense for them has to be "WITHOUT THEM WE WOULD'VE GOTTEN A TRUMP". Not only is it more Trump fear mongering, it also ignores the fact that Republicans had 11 FUCKING CANDIDATES running for President, which split the party vote.

Seriously, Trump should be writing a big thank you note to Marco Rubio for staying too fucking long in the race.

June 15, 2016 - 14:35

Josiah White

He likes don't he?

June 15, 2016 - 14:40

Jace Bailey

Trump isn't even as bad as most of the other Republican candidates. He's just more rude.

June 15, 2016 - 14:42

Henry Anderson

Trump is against NAFTA and TPP. The oppo research tries to paint that as a bad thing.

June 15, 2016 - 14:44

Luis Powell

...

June 15, 2016 - 14:52

Jeremiah Evans

Smells like shilling. Literally every megacorp would benefit from it, so there's no surprise there. Glad to know he seems to be really against it. At least our memes will be somewhat safe.

June 15, 2016 - 14:54

Ethan Cooper

give me a little, go ahead, tell me.” HUGH HEWITT: “He runs the Quds Forces.” DONALD TRUMP: “Yes,
okay, right.” HUGH HEWITT: “Do you expect his behavior…” DONALD TRUMP: “The Kurds, by the way,
have been horribly mistreated by …” HUGH HEWITT: “No, not the Kurds, the Quds Forces, the Iranian
Revolutionary Guards Quds Forces.” DONALD TRUMP: “Yes, yes.” HUGH HEWITT: “…is the bad guys.”
DONALD TRUMP: “Right.” HUGH HEWITT: “Do you expect his behavior to change as a result…”
DONALD TRUMP: “Oh, I thought you said Kurds, Kurds.” HUGH HEWITT: “No, Quds.” DONALD
TRUMP: “Oh, I’m sorry, I thought you said Kurds, because I think the Kurds have been poorly treated by us,
Hugh. Go ahead.”

It's like a fucking comedy skit

June 15, 2016 - 15:13

Liam Morales

...

June 15, 2016 - 15:16

Owen Perez

“If you look throughout the world, France has to be the worst partner that this country has ever had. They'll sell a nuclear weapon to anybody giving them 10 cents more to the next guy. It's terrible. … I think France just doesn't respect this country. France is a terrible partner. They've been a terrible partner over the years. They are a very disloyal group in terms of their government, and I think they have to be taught respect. I'm not saying what I'm doing to them, I just think France and I think one thing I'm doing I'm exposing them, because I've never heard this before. But anybody that knows anything about government, knows that France has been a very disloyal partner to the United States and virtually anybody else they deal with.”

wat
AFAK, the only country France "sold" a nuclear weapon to was Israel (well, actually it was a secret partnership to build a nuclear weapon).
And why the fuck does he think it is a terrible partner?
He's fucking living in an imaginary world.

t. surrendering man

June 15, 2016 - 15:27

Thomas Clark

Because Donald Trump is literally the embodiment of America's memes as a Presidential candidate, and one of those memes is a hatred of France

June 15, 2016 - 15:37

Oliver Ramirez

No, that was John Miller.

June 15, 2016 - 15:44

Cooper Lee

This is actually true and by perceiving it or at least portraying it as untrue that says a lot about the state of the DNC

June 15, 2016 - 16:04

Colton Sanders

guccifer2.wordpress.com/2016/06/15/dnc/

The DNC leak with the list of Hillary's donors. Includes Charles Koch as a donor.

The full thing will be released by Wikileaks.

Now is the time to unleash the shill machine, and bring the evil witch down.

June 15, 2016 - 16:13

Sebastian Clark

screencaps? I was just looking at it in TOR, but closed it down and don't want to bother opening it up again

June 15, 2016 - 16:16

William Edwards

What is Trump's game? While I don't believe he's the great hero his supporters believe him to be nor the destructive force his opponents claims he does seem to buck the party lines a bit.

But maybe it's just his absurd showmanship that makes it interesting to begin with.

June 15, 2016 - 16:19

Colton Kelly

He's a rich guy who's fucking around because he can. He doesn't give any paticular shit about politics. It's public knowledge that his campaign decided what his positions would be based on what was popular on conservative talk radio. He's just pandering to an audience he thinks is easy to get.

June 15, 2016 - 16:25

Lucas Bennett

I think just like any other bourgeois fuck he doesn't really give a shit about sectors of the economy which don't directly effect him and so he isn't afraid to just say whatever since he isn't invested in aerospace/defense (so far as I know).

And even if he was it doesn't really matter what he says because none of his campaign promises are legally binding or anything, but it could also be signalling to those industries that once he's president they want the special treatment they've been getting they'll need to pony up. He's got no political carrier to jeopardize. If he loses this election he just goes back to being a billionaire, so to him whatever he says doesn't matter as long as it gets him elected.

Or not, if the Clinton-Trump conspiracy theory proves true

June 15, 2016 - 16:27

Xavier Flores

I think he's an oligarch that's trying for the president's chair not only because he can but because it would be potentially extremely lucrative to be head plutocrat.

June 15, 2016 - 16:29

Thomas Watson

Yep. We're going to see a whole slew of oligarchs running for president now. Wouldn't be surprised to see a guy like Jeff Bezos run in the future.

June 15, 2016 - 16:33

Jonathan Smith

The mere fact that these people can be so easily fucked up with a hack says they aren't qualified to run a country in the digital age. I'm so sick of luddite baby boomers.

June 15, 2016 - 16:36

Christian Bailey

Did the Luddites actually do anything wrong?

I was reading about them and they actually sounded kinda based.

June 15, 2016 - 16:42

Adrian Adams

Yeah, they stored sensitive information in an unencrypted format all on the same machine in an unencrypted format.

June 15, 2016 - 16:47

David Jackson

Thank God Steve Jobs is dead.

President Jobs would be apocalyptic levels of totalitarianism.

June 15, 2016 - 16:52

Matthew Walker

I don't see it anywhere. We need a source quick.

June 15, 2016 - 16:58

Ian Thomas

...

June 15, 2016 - 17:15

Ryder Lopez

All I see here is a "Bob Koch" in 4-16-commitment-sheet_040416-update.xlsx. Is this even one of the Koch brothers?

June 15, 2016 - 17:17

Ayden Thomas

Sanders making announcement to run independently in 2 mins

June 15, 2016 - 17:29

Jacob Moore

Source? I thought he was making his announcement on Thursday.

June 15, 2016 - 17:32

Nicholas Miller

Oh shit.
For some reason I thought it was today

June 15, 2016 - 17:35

Leo Sullivan

As with Hillary, they're both ruling class m8

June 15, 2016 - 17:43

Alexander Torres

pol will still defend him. What did he say exactly about the TPP anyway?

Could at least be part of their family.

June 15, 2016 - 18:09

Nolan Reed

...

June 15, 2016 - 18:40

Asher Fisher

...

June 15, 2016 - 18:42

Caleb Russell

...

June 15, 2016 - 18:44

Henry Taylor

Eat the rich class war now

June 15, 2016 - 18:49

Leo Martinez

I would watch that shit on pay per view.

June 15, 2016 - 18:55

Joshua Turner

Yeah it honestly seems like a world ripe for satire

I'll add it to the list of things I want to make a webcomic/video game about but probably never will

June 15, 2016 - 18:59

Noah Perez

If you want to make a webcomic, start yesterday. The only key to success there is to keep at it for a while. The longer you do it the more people will read, pretty much regardless of quality.

June 15, 2016 - 19:19

Jeremiah Collins

I wanna try to improve my art first because I feel like it's pretty dull right now

Also I need either a scanner or tablet

June 15, 2016 - 19:25

Michael Ortiz

It literally doesn't matter at all, as far as your audience is concerned. In fact, putting your work out there is the best way to improve. As long as you actually listen to criticism and work to get better, unlike some artists.

TBH it works better to use a tablet. Scanning a sketch might be alright to "ink" on the computer but then you need a tablet anyway, and scanning a finished picture doesn't look very good. You also don't have to spend money on materials with a tablet.

June 15, 2016 - 19:32

Colton Myers

>wnyc.org/story/board-elections-returns-purged-brooklyn-voters-rolls/

June 15, 2016 - 20:13

Grayson Taylor

this just makes it WORSE

June 15, 2016 - 20:24

Elijah Perez

wonderful

are you kidding me

June 15, 2016 - 20:26

Joshua Anderson

...

June 15, 2016 - 20:28

Charles Morris

Barney Frank just announced that Bernie won't be given a primetime speech slot at the convention unless he publicly endorses Hillary beforehand.

Lol.

June 15, 2016 - 20:34

Nicholas Jones

Guys
Guys
Do you realize that there's a criminal FBI investigation is going on and Hillary Clinton will be indicted under Espionage Act?
thompsontimeline.com/The_Clinton_Email_Scandal_-_Short_Version_-_Part_2

June 15, 2016 - 20:34

Caleb Reed

Holy shit, that guy was in a Bernie Sanders group I was in, he is so fucking stupid.

June 15, 2016 - 20:37

Caleb Allen

I want to believe

June 15, 2016 - 20:37

Julian Hughes

Dude there could be footage of Hillary eating a live baby and she'd never be punished for it.

June 15, 2016 - 20:40

Wyatt Hall

Source?

These dumb motherfuckers are seriously not going to learn that they're playing with fire until they get burned.

June 15, 2016 - 20:41

Cooper Thompson

Barney Frank is now

DEPRECATED

I'm going to start emailing people like this and use logic and reason to try and tell them why they are wrong.

June 15, 2016 - 20:44

Kayden Davis

You don't need any punishment, just a week of media whining and republican talking-heads and bad polling to change the narrative.

June 15, 2016 - 20:46

Robert Hernandez

They don't care about logic and reason, all they care about is $$$.

June 15, 2016 - 20:46

Julian Diaz

SHE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

June 15, 2016 - 20:47

Hunter Reed

I don't have $$$

What else can i do?

June 15, 2016 - 20:48

Isaac Stewart

ahahahah what the fuck

June 15, 2016 - 20:52

Brody Powell

lol that shit IS the narrative, that can't change anything

June 15, 2016 - 20:53

Isaiah Richardson

t. H.A. "The more I say it, the truer it gets" Goodman

June 15, 2016 - 20:57

Landon Thompson

Her husband raped a child, does that count?

June 15, 2016 - 21:01

Leo Allen

It's more like supporting evidence.

June 15, 2016 - 21:09

John Moore

Well, I can't blame him after reading the timeline. Democratic sheeple don't even care.

June 15, 2016 - 21:19

Ian Thomas

reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4oal2a/newly_leaked_guccifer_documents_prove_that_the/

June 15, 2016 - 21:32

Liam Murphy

How I imagine the convention is gonna go down.

Hillary: "California, I'm DNC."
Warren: "He wasn't alone"
Hillary: "You don't get to bring friends."
California: "They are not my friends"
Warren: "Don't worry, no charge for them."
Hillary: "Why would I want them?"
Warren: "They were trying to nab your prize. They work for progressive. The masked man."
Hillary: "Bernie?"
Hillary: "Get 'em on board - I'll call it in."

Hillary: "The general ballot I just filed with DNC lists me, my women, and Elizabeth Warren here. But only one of you."
Hillary: "FIRST ONE TO CONCEDE GETS TO STAY ON MY CAMPAIGN!"
Hillary: "SO…WHO PAID YOU TO GRAB CALIFORNIA"
Hillary: "HE DIDN'T FLY SO GOOD! WHO WANTS TO TRY NEXT?!"
Hillary: "TELL ME ABOUT BERNIE! WHY DOES HE HAVE NO SUPERPAC?!"
Hillary: "LOT OF LOYALTY FOR A RECENTLY LAIDOFF CAMPAIGN STAFF!"

?: "Or perhaps he's wondering why someone would shoot a man before throwing him out of an election."
Hillary: "At least you can talk. Who are you?"
?: "It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan"
Bernie: "No one cared who I was till I started polling at 3%"
Hillary: "If I pull this off, will you concede?"
Bernie: "It would be extremely painful."
Hillary: "You're an old guy."
Bernie: "For you."
Hillary: "Was losing the primary part of your plan?"
Bernie: "Of course. Elizabeth refused our offer in favor of yours. We had to know what she told you about us."
Hillary: "Well congratulations, you lost the primary. What's the next step in your master plan?"
Bernie: "Crashing this convention…"
Bernie endorses Gary Johnson
Bernie: ==WITH NO SURVIVORS==

June 15, 2016 - 21:45

Jordan Green

Okay, that's the second time I've seen this claim.

Where?

June 15, 2016 - 21:46

Owen Harris

L O L

June 15, 2016 - 22:33

Xavier Evans

My favorite part is down below where they basically say they want to convince the media to use their arguments without being able to be linked back to it.
Poor DNC, looking like real fools.

June 15, 2016 - 22:35

Cooper Ross

The truth is out there, man!

June 15, 2016 - 22:45

Liam Cooper

Earlier in the thread it was claimed that the Koch's were on Clinton's donation list. It's all muddy waters & all intertwined. Both parties are corrupt & have ties to the Kochs or some of their lobbying firms:

huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-rejects-koch-support_b_9780354.html
I know, it's huffpost, but there's info in there & they link to this Intercept article. Intercept has done some great Hillary digging this election cycle. Lee Fang gives her the business pretty good.
theintercept.com/2016/02/08/hrc-inner-circle-lobbyists/

June 15, 2016 - 22:55

Juan Wood

Classic George Carlin worth sharing, "George Carlin on language of politics"
youtube.com/watch?v=HEeDRUZIDq8

June 15, 2016 - 23:18

Angel Jenkins

tl;dr The moneymen are smart enough not to put their names directly onto donation lists.

June 15, 2016 - 23:22

Easton Ortiz

He'd be far more likely to endorse Jill Stein over Gary Johnson. Though both scenarios are unlikely unfortunately. Would be pretty fun to see how that would turn out though.

June 16, 2016 - 00:10

Luke Carter

CORRECT THE RECORD SHILLS IN FULL SWING

Tried to post the article before but it didn't work, so I'll try again

https:[email protected]/* */[email protected]/* */#.t3pfqlds1

If that doesn't work then it's this first "Brocialism" post

https:[email protected]/* */

Please tell me not all neoliberals are like this. He's getting praise for that article, it's so fucking stupid

June 16, 2016 - 00:33

Jaxon Myers

HRC

Guys, I'm depressed now

June 16, 2016 - 00:36

Aaron Russell

...

June 16, 2016 - 00:39

Julian Carter

...

June 16, 2016 - 00:42

Ayden Anderson

no but you don't understand, something that improves lives for the vast majority of people is no good because it doesn't exclusively benefit the group i have decided is most marginalized

June 16, 2016 - 01:02

Noah Sanders

That is quite the definition of socialism.

Also, in the pic "my revolution" implies the author believes she belongs to the ruling class.
It's pathetic.

June 16, 2016 - 01:03

Jacob Hill

Technically, it means that they believe class equality will still leave inequality for them because patriarchy. Which is silly, but that's their argument.

June 16, 2016 - 01:12

Noah Rodriguez

Holy shit that pic.. Make it stop. Appealing to others' selfishness seems to be their winning ticket.

June 16, 2016 - 01:15

Elijah Williams

She should have said "So my revolution always has to wait for ours to happen first."

June 16, 2016 - 01:22

Zachary James

No, but see, they won't be perfectly equal should capitalism be overthrown so it's not their revolution. It's just for the icky men.

June 16, 2016 - 01:28

John Lopez

"It's not perfect so it is totally the wrong way :^)"

"Voting for a Black president really helps fighting racism (see Trayvon Martin)."

"It's free, therefore poor Blacks can't get it, 'cause they're niggers."

"We should reject white working class people, not reject people because of their race."

June 16, 2016 - 01:38

Adam Nguyen

People should print this shit on flyers to pass out in Philly.

Sanders was right to not endorse Hillary. The DNC fucked themselves in the goddamn ass.

June 16, 2016 - 07:20

Jayden Perez

Guys I'm not American and am wondering what liberalism means in American discourse. How would you define it (pls no memes) and why do you despise it?

June 16, 2016 - 08:32

Isaac Gonzalez

Quasi-social democrats with a strong emphasis on "leftist" idpol

June 16, 2016 - 08:37

Michael Williams

Typically "liberal" is described as anything the democrats support.

June 16, 2016 - 08:48

Grayson Stewart

Non-commie "progressist".

June 16, 2016 - 08:49

Mason Davis

Liberalism, in the modern sense, is blaming racism and sexism for economic problems. It's feel good politics for the upper class.

June 16, 2016 - 09:39

Aiden Lee

THIS IS A GOOD THING! THEY WOULDN'T SMEAR US IF THEY DIDN'T FEAR US! WE CAN SAVE SOCIALISM FROM IDPOL AND THEY'RE SCARED OF THAT!

June 16, 2016 - 11:18

Noah Harris

involuntary egoist are the worst kind.

June 16, 2016 - 11:23

Jayden Howard

What is the bump limit on 8ch? Should we open up a new thread since the primaries are over?

June 16, 2016 - 11:25

Connor Lewis

This thread is cyclical my lad

June 16, 2016 - 11:25

Zachary Brown

"Progressives" that aren't anti-capitalist.

June 16, 2016 - 11:26

Charles Martinez

Meaning there is no bump limit?

June 16, 2016 - 11:26

Easton Wright

It's got 400 replies, each new reply erases the current first reply.

June 16, 2016 - 11:30

David Flores

The idea of liberalism is to give the impression of progress without actually progressing in any meaningful way. This is done by selecting a minority and giving them rights on par with the rest of the population before forgetting them and moving to the next one. The catch is that nothing is done to improve the lives of the majority. This allows it's supporter to feel good and pretend they're making the world a better place without bringing any meaningful change to the system, thus maintaining the status quo and distracting the population at the same time.

Of course this isn't how the supporters of liberalism see this, there's probably no conspiracy, only misconceptions on their part, as they genuinely see themselves as harbingers of progress.

June 16, 2016 - 11:44

Chase Reyes

Ahh, gotcha. Thanks.

June 16, 2016 - 11:46

Matthew Price

Worse than that, it seems to imply that if given a choice between helping nobody and helping just white people, they'll choose the former.

In general:
Among anarchists:
In Randroid/lolbert/Autistrian circles:
In common parlance among laymen and the popular media:
On Holla Forums:

June 16, 2016 - 12:38

Jacob Thomas

bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-06-14/bloomberg-politics-national-poll-june-2016
Trump just took a big hit in the polls, Clinton has a solid lead against him now.
It's not going to last

June 16, 2016 - 13:07

Josiah Rodriguez

I really hope Clinton doesn't win.

June 16, 2016 - 13:11

Colton Lopez

archive.is/0tEB7

Lmao, the DNC is so fucking incompetent. The "hackers" got into their gmail accounts (yes, they use gmail) by sending them bitly links which forwarded to fake gmail login pages. What a bunch of god damned morons.

June 16, 2016 - 13:14

Cooper Parker

Me neither.

I also really hope Trump doesn't win.

June 16, 2016 - 13:18

Isaac James

So what exactly Did Trump say on TPP?

June 16, 2016 - 13:21

Owen Perez

No idea, but I think I can paraphrase: "TPP is the worst. Just the worst. It's awful. When I'm president I'm going to make the greatest trade deals you've ever seen. The absolute greatest."

June 16, 2016 - 13:24

Mason Roberts

plot twist: The Sanders camp sends the DNC a chain e-mail posing as a Nigerian prince and asks them for superdelagates

June 16, 2016 - 13:27

Christopher Rivera

Whoa, how'd you get that quote?!

June 16, 2016 - 13:29

Jayden Morgan

Do you support Donald Trump in his fight against imperialism?

June 16, 2016 - 13:36

Henry Taylor

Is this irony or post-irony

June 16, 2016 - 13:41

Asher Phillips

It's post-Poe law.

June 16, 2016 - 13:44

Ryder Wright

...

June 16, 2016 - 13:44

Logan Wilson

It's my attempt at post-ironic election posting on normiebook

June 16, 2016 - 13:50

Dominic Clark

It's post-meta-ironic.

June 16, 2016 - 13:52

Brayden Diaz

...

June 16, 2016 - 13:53

Angel Walker

Not even tankies are that dumb. Obvious satire.

June 16, 2016 - 14:03

Noah Perry

I beg to differ

June 16, 2016 - 14:07

Hunter Mitchell

So this is too unbelievable?

June 16, 2016 - 14:23

Noah Lopez

...

June 16, 2016 - 14:23

Carter Lee

I'm not sure what that was, but it was amazing

June 16, 2016 - 14:26

Angel Ross

How anyone can look at this and not be absolutely disgusted is either dead inside or a tyrant themselves

June 16, 2016 - 14:41

Noah Turner

archive.is/9qBG7
BERNIE SANDERS IS A HOMOPHOBE BECAUSE HE WON'T DROP OUT OF THE RACE
AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH

June 16, 2016 - 15:07

Landon Adams

Insulting a Jew for no reason is
A N T I S E M I T E
N
T
I
S
E
M
I
T
E

June 16, 2016 - 15:14

Hunter Smith

...

June 16, 2016 - 15:17

Juan Ramirez

SHUT UP YOU RACIST DOUCHEBAG

June 16, 2016 - 15:18

Parker Gutierrez

it never ends

June 16, 2016 - 15:22

Andrew Cruz

Perhaps there is still hope

June 16, 2016 - 15:27

Logan Walker

I hope someone is sure to tell the author that the stream has been planned for a while now.

June 16, 2016 - 15:29

Jeremiah Ward

I expect that to be the next step for the Shillbots when they realize Sanderistas aren't going to back down.

June 16, 2016 - 15:41

Lincoln Sullivan

articles like these make socialism more likeable to anti-idpol right wingers

thanks, obama

June 16, 2016 - 15:52

Tyler Rodriguez

Here's a short piece from the POV of revolutionary collective organisation.
marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-2/mswv2_03.htm

June 16, 2016 - 16:11

Landon Cruz

...

June 16, 2016 - 16:20

Carter Adams

Why is the Republican party so utterly incapable of presenting decent candidates in 2016?

Where's muh Goldwater and Eisenhower?

For that matter where's muh FDR?

What the fuck happened?

June 16, 2016 - 16:23

Daniel Russell

conservatives kept getting more and more out of touch with what people wanted while sucking corporate cock. on top of that the banking on religiosity backfired as more people become atheist and more secular.

June 16, 2016 - 16:25

Alexander Bell

Cruz and Carson were the only ones religionshilling in the primaries and the other candidates were still garbage.

June 16, 2016 - 16:26

David Martin

Cruz wasn't just "religionshilling" tho. He believes he's the second coming of Christ.

June 16, 2016 - 16:30

Isaiah Morris

He's a dominionist, but he got eliminated in the primary since everyone saw he's a shuddersome weirdo, so I'm not concerned with him.

June 16, 2016 - 16:31

Adam Garcia

...

June 16, 2016 - 16:31

Christian Sanchez

Negative feedback loop between politicians and constituents.

June 16, 2016 - 16:32

Jacob Jenkins

true that the other candidates didn't shill as hard but everyone up there is expected to tow the basic line with them. MUH MORALS and all that

June 16, 2016 - 16:36

Oliver Edwards

Rubio was doing it pretty hard near the end of his run.
The dominionist from my god-forsaken state, Cruz, will inevitably run again in 2020 and probably 2024. He's young. If worst comes to worst he'll be a perennial with a cult following like LaRouche. Hey, it took Reagan three tries. I bet he eventually is the nominee. Or a nominee. The Republicans aren't long for this world.

June 16, 2016 - 16:53

John Hall

BERNIE LIVESTREAM IN FIFTEEN MINUTES
berniesanders.com/stream/
berniesanders.com/stream/
berniesanders.com/stream/

June 16, 2016 - 17:15

Luke Myers

The Republican party is simply drowning in the internal contradictions of its own ideology at this point.

June 16, 2016 - 17:15

Robert Scott

I'd like to, but I can't.
I volunteered for the campaign but seeing it obviously stolen broke my heart. Unless Bernie says something to calm my feelings of betrayal in this area I won't watch.

June 16, 2016 - 17:16

Ethan Clark

don't despair comrade, you did something more important than elect a president. you put america one step further to the eventual socialist revolution.

June 16, 2016 - 17:18

Joshua Anderson

That's what I've always said.

June 16, 2016 - 17:18

Sebastian Perez

youtube.com/watch?v=RzHSNjctOCk

June 16, 2016 - 17:20

Ryder Clark

Remember guys. We need more slick entryists like Sanders in power and we need some people out.

Such as Debbie Wassermann Shultz, she needs to be replaced with Tim Canova, but she's refusing to debate him because she has never had to debate anyone in her life–even in congress

June 16, 2016 - 17:25

Michael Turner

Canova is still shit tbh. His Israel shilling is too much for me. Bernie was just good enough on the issue. Any politician who can't be as good or better than Bernie on foreign policy isn't worth my vote.

June 16, 2016 - 17:27

Kevin Wilson

It begins

June 16, 2016 - 17:28

Isaiah Roberts

Didn't know he shilled for Israel.
Well… He's better than DWS. It's a shame we don't have more people inside the government like Bernie.

June 16, 2016 - 17:29

Anthony King

We really need to focus on the down ticket races. The DNC left themselves wide open on that front.

June 16, 2016 - 17:29

Dominic Allen

HOLY SHIT, HE'S SITTING WITH JILL STEIN!

June 16, 2016 - 17:30

Adam Foster

HAPPENING
youtube.com/watch?v=RzHSNjctOCk
youtube.com/watch?v=RzHSNjctOCk
youtube.com/watch?v=RzHSNjctOCk

June 16, 2016 - 17:31

Cameron Sanders

...

June 16, 2016 - 17:32

Lucas Hernandez

HERE COMES DAT BERNIE

June 16, 2016 - 17:32

Nathaniel Price

nice yuge meme bernard

June 16, 2016 - 17:33

Gavin Powell

UGE NUMBERS

June 16, 2016 - 17:33

Noah Ortiz

I hope he beats DWS, I'm just not going to vote for him in any situation unless he improves.

June 16, 2016 - 17:34

Wyatt Collins

So many implications

June 16, 2016 - 17:35

Aiden Wright

Y O U J
O
U
J

June 16, 2016 - 17:35

Dominic Cruz

He keeps dissing Hilldawg

June 16, 2016 - 17:36

Adam Bennett

he hasn't even mentioned her yet

June 16, 2016 - 17:37

Jackson Ortiz

Green Party pls

June 16, 2016 - 17:37

Cooper Rodriguez

SAY IT BERNIE. YOU KNOW IT'S CAPITALISM

June 16, 2016 - 17:37

Eli Adams

Just a reminder, Bernie carried west river in SD.

June 16, 2016 - 17:37

Lincoln Robinson

He implied in the beginning when talking about revolution

June 16, 2016 - 17:38

Charles Reyes

UH OH
fuck this

June 16, 2016 - 17:40

Sebastian Kelly

No no no
pls don't do it bernie

June 16, 2016 - 17:40

Hunter Ross

no, no pls

June 16, 2016 - 17:40

Brayden Kelly

Guys please tell me he's not gonna do what i think he's gonna do

I knew it was coming, but… i don't want him to do it

June 16, 2016 - 17:40

Jace Gray

Bernie no

June 16, 2016 - 17:41

Luis King

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

June 16, 2016 - 17:41

John Diaz

alright, I can stomach this line

June 16, 2016 - 17:41

Matthew Perez

"…Can not be our only goal."

YES WE'RE GOING TO PHILLY NIGGERS

June 16, 2016 - 17:41

Jaxon Williams

Oh thank god

June 16, 2016 - 17:41

Tyler Allen

i'm hopeful

June 16, 2016 - 17:42

Bentley Campbell

...

June 16, 2016 - 17:42

Wyatt Lopez

HE'S GOING TO PHILLY, WOOO

June 16, 2016 - 17:42

Logan Russell

WSWS WAS RIGHT
WSWS WAS RIGHT
WSWS WAS RIGHT
WSWS WAS RIGHT
WSWS WAS RIGHT
WSWS WAS RIGHT
v

June 16, 2016 - 17:42

Tyler Howard

SHITTING ON CLINTON INTENSIFIES

June 16, 2016 - 17:42

Owen Hall

DON'T TRUST HER BERNIE

June 16, 2016 - 17:42

Aiden Lee

he said the opposite

June 16, 2016 - 17:42

Jeremiah Hall

He's been saying that for weeks you drama queens, calm down

June 16, 2016 - 17:43

Zachary Gomez

He's going to philly bois

June 16, 2016 - 17:43

Jayden Diaz

HOLD ME Holla Forums I'M SCARED

June 16, 2016 - 17:43

Jackson Foster

Kill me fam.

June 16, 2016 - 17:43

Brandon Scott

He's insulting Clinton at the same time as saying they have some similar views

June 16, 2016 - 17:43

Dylan Campbell

go back to talking about class

June 16, 2016 - 17:43

Ayden Cox

youtube.com/watch?v=a48o2S1cPoo

June 16, 2016 - 17:43

Hudson Bailey

DON'T TRUST HER BERNIE

June 16, 2016 - 17:44

Bentley Parker

CALLING OUT TPP

June 16, 2016 - 17:44

Brandon Ramirez

He's pandering and you know it. I bet he hasn't even looked into it and just parrots it or knows it's BS.

June 16, 2016 - 17:44

Gabriel Wood

He has to pander to normies on some things. And everyone panders on the equal pay meme

June 16, 2016 - 17:44

Andrew Long

WE MUST RESIST

Guys this is a message

June 16, 2016 - 17:44

Kevin Edwards

I'm still hoping that when the convention is over and they change nothing, he will finally come out strong like we need.

June 16, 2016 - 17:45

Colton Thomas

Get the part about arming the proletariat already you fucking ham.

June 16, 2016 - 17:45

Carson Rivera

TPP HAS TO STAY OFF THE FLOOR

June 16, 2016 - 17:45

Austin Foster

BANNING FRACKING
I knew he wouldn't give up

June 16, 2016 - 17:45

Adrian Edwards

he's gonna sheepdog. oh well, he did his part to mainstream socialism, what else could we ask from an american politician?

June 16, 2016 - 17:46

Anthony Harris

We've all heard your stump speech lad hurry up

June 16, 2016 - 17:46

Hudson Young

Timestamp?

June 16, 2016 - 17:46

Jackson Bailey

Gay post

June 16, 2016 - 17:47

Ryder Morales

He wont do it. He's already said he's going to philly

June 16, 2016 - 17:47

Parker Reed

OH SHID CALLING DNC OUT

June 16, 2016 - 17:47

Mason Sullivan

CALLING OUT THE DNC

June 16, 2016 - 17:47

Kevin Parker

YES

June 16, 2016 - 17:47

Liam Sanchez

Jane: Bernie, Dinner's ready!
Bernie: Just a minute Jane, I'm seizing the means

June 16, 2016 - 17:47

Carson Gomez

Infiltrate the arms of local power for the revolution

June 16, 2016 - 17:49

Robert Ortiz

SLASH WIN
YES BERNIE

June 16, 2016 - 17:50

Jeremiah Watson

I dunno m8…

June 16, 2016 - 17:50

Ayden Sanders

libertarian municipalism confirmed

June 16, 2016 - 17:50

Gavin Bennett

HE WANTS US TO TAKE OVER THE SYSTEM FROM THE BOTTOM

June 16, 2016 - 17:50

Jaxon Gutierrez

it's like the definition of sheepdogging. that said I don't believe in futile third party politics in America, so if Berniecrats take over the Dem party over the course of the next couple decades, that's okay by me.

June 16, 2016 - 17:50

Eli James

Have you never seen a slick entryist in act before m8? He isn't sheepdogging

June 16, 2016 - 17:51

Parker Flores

great dear leader faggots

June 16, 2016 - 17:51

David Clark

Jane: Come over
Bernie: I can't
Jane: I'm awakening the proletariat to the exploitative ways of capitalism
Bernie: [running webm]
-
God I fucking knew that he'd pull a Gol D. Roger as soon as shit looked bad

Gay post
Where the fuck are you getting the last one?

June 16, 2016 - 17:52

Joseph Ortiz

NOW IS THE TIME TO SEIZE.

June 16, 2016 - 17:52

Robert Robinson

he hasn't endorse Clinton you actual retard

June 16, 2016 - 17:52

Grayson Reyes

he just said he wants a path to citizenship to those here not that he wants open borders faggot

June 16, 2016 - 17:52

Aaron Myers

==OBLIGARY=

June 16, 2016 - 17:53

Parker Phillips

THE FIRE RISES

June 16, 2016 - 17:53

Ryder Bell

CTR SHILL DETECTED

June 16, 2016 - 17:53

Thomas Cooper

THE FIGHT CONTINUES

June 16, 2016 - 17:54

Luke Evans

Whelp that was a worthless stream. Next time talk about election fraud you fucking pussy.

June 16, 2016 - 17:54

Andrew Rivera

Well lads, we all know that the DNC will do none of what he asks. What do you think he'll do?

June 16, 2016 - 17:54

Tyler Jackson

What do you think he'll do when the convention doesn't allow him to change anything about the direction of the party?

June 16, 2016 - 17:54

Levi Brown

It's literally the same speech he's been giving for months
fuck off retard

June 16, 2016 - 17:54

Easton Rogers

HE DIDN'T ENDORSE HER
==HE IS GOING TO PHILLY
SLASH WIN
WE'RE COMING BUCKOS

June 16, 2016 - 17:55

Josiah Richardson

He's gonna tell people they need to vote Clinton to stop Trump. It's obvious he'll do it, if not today, in a month. That said, it's important that he's trying to get people involved in local govt., and I don't give a fuck about Jill Stein or whoever. He's sheepdogging, but he's still going to do what he was really important for, which is make socialism appealing to young people.

June 16, 2016 - 17:55

Christopher King

you're a sheepdog

June 16, 2016 - 17:55

Isaac Morris

that denial tho

June 16, 2016 - 17:56

Thomas Cruz

that's some grade A schlock right there

June 16, 2016 - 17:56

Josiah Kelly

He's going to turn his funding machine into a piggybank for local government progressives. He'll replace the porky dems with socdems whether they like it or not.

June 16, 2016 - 17:56

Liam Ortiz

He didn't and even said in an interview a month ago that he couldn't do so. He may "Officially endorse" her after philly, but he said that in no conditions would he tell his supporters to vote for her

June 16, 2016 - 17:57

Jordan Nguyen

Was for

June 16, 2016 - 17:58

Ian Jackson

He was right that most people will make up their minds on their own. But that doesn't mean he won't do it.

June 16, 2016 - 17:58

Josiah Walker

Doesn't mean he will do it either

June 16, 2016 - 18:00

Grayson Bennett

Idk if this thread is full of pol right now or what, but this was historic. He will fight to the DNC, be extremely aggressive about his platform, fight to the very end, then he will plainly endorse with Clinton. He will fight a campaign focused against trump rather than for clinton, make sure she wins, then the real work begins. Taking all the energy and pushing back against neoliberalism in a historic way.

The elections have fucked me up as well, and it is disappointing he is going to endorse Clinton. But Bernie would not be able to sustain a long term movement if he totally broke with the Dem Party and was seen as a spoiler. A Trump presidency would be a disaster, and a Clinton presidency helps further alienate the left.

His supporters will still be there for him after the general, the left will still be there, and a massive number of dedicated organizers and young people will be there promoting a grassroots class based socdem program. Idk what is better for the left right now.

June 16, 2016 - 18:01

Nicholas Evans

strawpoll.me/10504854
Since this topic seems to be a hot debate lately

June 16, 2016 - 18:02

Alexander Diaz

He didn't say anything he hasn't already said before. I think he's just going to keep holding these press conferences to fuck with the DNC and Hillary's campaign. Fine by me.

June 16, 2016 - 18:02

Zachary Scott

kys

June 16, 2016 - 18:03

Easton Gray

I don't get you fags. You understand he was never the second coming of Lenin, right? That shit was just memes. You don't have to uncritically adore this guy. I'm not shitting all over him for being a politician. He's easily one of the best politicians in America, if not the best, and no matter what he does to endorse Clinton, his campaign has clearly made massive waves in American politics that can't be erased by him making a little compromise. I'm just saying he's obviously going to do what he's going to do.

This guy gets it.

June 16, 2016 - 18:05

Elijah Long

Have you seen how stubborn this fucker is? He isn't going to. He has to officially release a statement after philly where he "endorses" the democratic nominee, though this is because he took a pledge and needs to be a man of his word in order to still be effective in the senate. You can't go back on a presidential pledge like that.

He has stated so many times that no matter the circumstances, he cannot and will not tell his supporters to vote for her if she's the nominee.

They are CTR shills from reddit /r/ess and twitter

June 16, 2016 - 18:05

Nathan Harris

It was just his usual speech my dude.

June 16, 2016 - 18:06

Oliver Morris

second part was for

June 16, 2016 - 18:06

David White

Agreed. And lol @ the dipshits earnestly rationalizing Trump as being "better" or "less dangerous" than Clinton. Honestly he probably did better than any of us would have.

June 16, 2016 - 18:06

Carson Perez

Where did I do so? You are making far too many assumptions.

June 16, 2016 - 18:08

Sebastian Wilson

they're just about the same tbh.

June 16, 2016 - 18:08

Eli Walker

faggots ITT are accusing me of being some kind of CTR shill or Holla Forums invader just because I'm making the extremely obvious observation that he's going to shill for Hillary in the general election.

June 16, 2016 - 18:09

Josiah Evans

REMINDER ON HOW TO SPOT CORRECT THE RECORD SHILLS

reddit.com/r/HillaryForPrison/comments/4njj7b/how_to_spot_a_shill_correct_the_record_talking/

June 16, 2016 - 18:10

Bentley Morgan

They're doing so as to give you the benefit of the doubt, instead of just being a huge retard.

June 16, 2016 - 18:10

Charles Butler

You might not be a Holla Forumsack but you sure are as fucking stupid as one.

June 16, 2016 - 18:12

Nathaniel Hughes

GOL D. ROGER
THE GREAT AGE OF PIRATES

June 16, 2016 - 18:12

Evan Russell

>>>/gulag/

June 16, 2016 - 18:14

Wyatt Foster

it would be okay if you stayed on reddit tbh

June 16, 2016 - 18:14

Chase Jones

Simply epic post my man

June 16, 2016 - 18:14

Lucas Myers

...

June 16, 2016 - 18:16

Nathaniel Nelson

Pretty much.

His speech was about committing mutiny against the DNC, then hijacking the party

June 16, 2016 - 18:20

Aiden Roberts

go.berniesanders.com/page/signup/win?source=160616-livestream
go.berniesanders.com/page/signup/win?source=160616-livestream
go.berniesanders.com/page/signup/win?source=160616-livestream
Go here to get emails from Bernie on local candidates.

He's extremely likely to endorse Hillary when the primary is over. It's obvious from his speech. I'll be very surprised and happy if he doesn't, but I'm okay with his "BUT DEFEATING DONALD TRUMP CAN NOT BE OUR ONLY GOAL" line. As long as he spends more time fighting to get his people into local government, I don't hold any grudge against him for it.

June 16, 2016 - 18:22

Carson Jackson

You guys support Bernie?

How is he not "CAPITALISM WITH A NICE FACE, INTO THE TRASH" to hardcore leftists?

June 16, 2016 - 18:25

Jacob Harris

Just gonna repeat my earlier statement

June 16, 2016 - 18:26

Jack Jones

Because he's shown signs in the past that he actually believes in a stronger message than he's put out there, and also because any push to the left is positive considering how right-wing the US is. He's allowing for discussion of ideas that were previously taboo.

June 16, 2016 - 18:26

Parker Moore

Because

June 16, 2016 - 18:26

Easton Brooks

he's a slick entryist
hiding his powerlevel

June 16, 2016 - 18:27

Connor Williams

Even if he is just a socdem, that's still further to the left than anything America has today

June 16, 2016 - 18:28

Adrian Perry

what's your point? he's going to endorse her. do you think politicians go around yelling "you literally must vote for the person I endorse, it is your only choice"? I'm not saying he'll do that. Jesus.

June 16, 2016 - 18:28

Christian Nguyen

Envelop pushing my lad

June 16, 2016 - 18:28

Blake Garcia

DAILY REMINDER
dailykos.com/story/2016/1/27/1475904/-Sanders-Democracy-means-public-ownership-of-the-major-means-of-production

June 16, 2016 - 18:28

Brody Hughes

Overton window

June 16, 2016 - 18:29

Easton Morgan

...

June 16, 2016 - 18:31

Lucas Jackson

This is great

June 16, 2016 - 18:32

James Gonzalez

10/10

June 16, 2016 - 18:34

Ethan Baker

Hillary supporters on social media are losing their minds. Lol.

June 16, 2016 - 18:36

Owen Martin

My point is it's not going to be an actual endorsement such as the many democrats in congress who have endorsed Hillary and have been yelling at everyone that we need to vote for Hillary in order to defeat Trump

Yes, quite a lot of them, especially in the wake of Trump. Have you not been paying attention lately?

June 16, 2016 - 18:36

Aiden Hill

Any good ones worth sharing?

June 16, 2016 - 18:39

Nicholas Perry

Lol isn't that the Ayn Rand fanboy from Alex Jones' show or something?

Sandman is so slick

June 16, 2016 - 18:40

Cooper Hill

Go to medium or something.

It's like tumblr except for neolibs obsessed with idpol and think they know about politics. It's full of $hillbots

June 16, 2016 - 18:42

Hunter Gomez

lmao Oprah endorsed hillary

June 16, 2016 - 18:42

Luke Carter

Is that not just the equivalent of neofascists supporting Trump?

June 16, 2016 - 18:43

Christian Collins

...

June 16, 2016 - 18:43

Landon Garcia

This one gave me a good chuckle.

Still can't quite figure out why Hillbots want Bernie to endorse her so badly. Trump stands no chance in November with or without Bernie's endorsement. I think it's just a power move. Also shows just how little faith they have in Hillary.

June 16, 2016 - 18:45

Parker Lee

In the sense of wanting to push forward discussion to better facilitate them? yes but that's hardly an indictment of anyone

June 16, 2016 - 18:45

Christian Miller

I guess? Not sure why that's relevant.

June 16, 2016 - 18:47

Robert Adams

Trump consistently not only falls short of the ideological underpinnings of his rabid fanbase, but outright contradicts it. Nothing he says is consistent, and just says whatever gives him the most appeal at a given time, just like any politician. Holla Forums just jerks off to him because he talks shit.

On the other hand, Holla Forums initially completely disregarded Bernie as just another socdem, but warmed up to him over time as more and more info came out on him that contributes to the idea that he's more radical than he'll let on. And unlike Trump, he's 100% consistent. People here only sort of like him, and that's an earned respect that will evaporate instantly if he does something uncharacteristic of what we've seen so far.

Trump could get cucked by Jews on live TV, and Holla Forums would declare they actually liked Jews all along.

June 16, 2016 - 18:49

Owen Carter

Because Berniecrats need to get back in line!

June 16, 2016 - 18:50

Christopher Perez

I'll admit I ignore the Hillary shills most of the time.

It's similar, but Trump clearly doesn't give a fuck about fascism. He was a democrat most of his life. He's a wildly inconsistent conman who was, in all likelihood, set up by Clinton to make her victory easier. Pretty different from Bernie, who has been consistent his whole life, and is actually secretly more socialist than he lets on.

June 16, 2016 - 18:51

William Robinson

Call the old ladies/anonymous ones Phyllis, it drives them nuts.

June 16, 2016 - 18:51

Parker Morris

Oh by the way Paul Krugman is an "economist" (ie. free market shill) so don't pay him any midn but to laugh at him

June 16, 2016 - 18:55

Easton Scott

Well, for one thing, despite all their huffing and puffing to the contrary, they need the support of the majority of Bernie supporters but desperately do not want to have to earn it. Kinda goes along with the fact that they know how unprogressive/illiberal Hillary is.

But I also think they just fundamentally do not understand why people support Bernie, because it's the opposite line of reasoning that people use to support Clinton (or Trump for that matter). Bernie supporters overwhelmingly seem to support him based on policy, while Clinton supporters support her because she's Hillary Clinton, and mold their positions to fit hers. Thus, if Sanders says he'll support Clinton everyone will just fall in line.

June 16, 2016 - 18:55

Henry Gray

share some you greedy non-sharer

June 16, 2016 - 18:56

Joseph White

has anyone ever called him out for supporting sweatshops

June 16, 2016 - 18:56

Colton Cook

Trump is literally the most pro-israel and 2nd most jewish candidate already

June 16, 2016 - 18:58

Elijah Scott

-blocked-

June 16, 2016 - 18:58

Ian Ramirez

that sure changes the gravitational fields around the race
coz
u know
coz her
her big ass
she has a big ass
that bends gravity
u know
a joke
ech

June 16, 2016 - 18:58

Oliver Rodriguez

The "Alt-Right" support Trump because he is edgy and says he will send the evil mexicans Mexico and make America great again so I can get a GF.
Literally nothing else.

That sort of happened with his daughter, and they keep sucking on.
BEAUTIFUL
JEWISH
BABY

June 16, 2016 - 19:00

William Cruz

"4.CDS victims: Quite a few Sanders supporters are mainly Clinton-haters, deep in the grip of Clinton Derangement Syndrome; they know that Hillary is corrupt and evil, because that’s what they hear all the time; they don’t realize that the reason it’s what they hear all the time is that right-wing billionaires have spent more than two decades promoting that message. Sanders has gotten a number of votes from conservative Democrats who are voting against her, not for him, and for sure there are liberal supporters who have absorbed the same message, even if they don’t watch Fox News."
-Paul Chugthekoolaidman

June 16, 2016 - 19:00

Oliver Campbell

Checked

June 16, 2016 - 19:03

Luis Collins

I saw someone claim that Hillary being a puppet of Wall Street was just a right-wing conspiracy Which is true, she's not a puppet, she IS Wall Street

Gee, Clinton claiming that all her opponents are just part of a vast right-wing conspiracy, who could have seen that coming?

June 16, 2016 - 19:03

Brody Butler

gulags fucking when

June 16, 2016 - 19:03

Ian Turner

I'm not a Trump supporter but I could as easily say "the left supports Bernie because he says he will break evil banks and make college free so they won't have student loan debt"

June 16, 2016 - 19:04

Austin Long

and you would be wrong

June 16, 2016 - 19:05

Josiah Lopez

That seems to be the breadth of the average Bernie supporter's convictions, much like Trumpcucks have paper thin reasons for supporting Trump.

June 16, 2016 - 19:07

Robert Sanders

Most of us who support Bernie realize that he is not perfect, or at least can point to some substantial evidence to indicate he's more left-wing than his positions would imply.

Holla Forums however seems to unironically think of him as some sort of great champion for the fascist cause

June 16, 2016 - 19:07

Bentley Adams

It's funny you say that, because while I have met nothing but for the trump supporters, I've yet to meet a single bernie supporter of that type. Could just be anecdotal confirmation bias on my part.

June 16, 2016 - 19:10

Hunter Wilson

Yeah, the only dogmatic Bernie supporters I've met have been olds – like 60+ people who shout phrases at meetings like they're attending a football game. Anyone below that has generally been reasonable, intelligent, well-read and politically aware.

June 16, 2016 - 19:12

Levi Ward

That's exactly what he is, but that doesn't invalidate most of what he's doing, nor that hardcore leftists can't or shouldn't support a pink candidate if it means opposing or disrupting the bourgeois system.

June 16, 2016 - 19:17

Alexander Taylor

Right?

June 16, 2016 - 19:19

Matthew White

So who would be a bigger obstacle in fulfilling the goal of Sandernistas of taking control of the government from the bottom up? If Trump wins and fucks up as Bush, that would make it easier for democrats to win later, if the planet still stands.

For the record I would go green either way, but we have to think in advance.

June 16, 2016 - 19:20

Matthew Martinez

Obviously because they hate Republicans more.

June 16, 2016 - 19:23

Luis Morris

There are two worries - if Hillary wins, people may get demotivated and give up on radical change thanks to small concessions but if Trump wins people may blame Bernie for not supporting Hillary and the leftist movement will lose momentum that way. There's not many good options here.

June 16, 2016 - 19:27

Michael Moore

Assuming Clinton isn't indicted Hillary winning would probably make the groundup transformation more difficult as she collaborates with the DNC to make sure nothing like this can ever happen again.

Meanwhile, at least my impression, is that regardless if Trump wins or loses the RNC is going to be just as busy trying to make sure nothing like Trump can ever happen again. If he wins I imagine he's still going to be in this adversarial position with the general Republican party because the whole point of being president for Trump would be to be in such a position of power that regular business can't function without his approval.

That said, I don't think whatever happens–even in the event of a Sanders victory–that either party will just ignore the subsequent races, and for them to achieve anything like long term success will require sustained vigilance and activism to counter the inevitable reaction.

June 16, 2016 - 19:28

Camden Russell

Part of me fears a Hillary presidency because I feel that her shitty policies combined with longing about "what might have been" under Trump will only help fuel this new alt-right quasi-fascist trend even further, and next time we might not get a questionable business man at the helm, we might get a true believer.

But on the other hand I feel a Clinton failure would help radicalize the left as well, but I don't know if it would be enough to fight back against the beast of pure ideology that is the Trump following.

June 16, 2016 - 19:28

Kevin Bailey

If @ mention him about it he will block you.

June 16, 2016 - 19:29

Brody Long

Why do people think Trump would be able to get anything done? I still don't understand why people fear him so much. He's the living breathing literal definition of a paper tiger.

June 16, 2016 - 19:31

John Watson

Even if you say >NOT AN ARGUMENT?

Hmph, the nerve

June 16, 2016 - 19:32

Justin Ortiz

bernie's gonna endorse though. only total delusional shills that nobody listens to will whine about that.

June 16, 2016 - 19:32

Julian Morales

Uh, because he's a Republican and Congress is controlled by a Republican majority in both houses?

June 16, 2016 - 19:33

Bentley Rivera

Seriously, it's time to stop posting.

June 16, 2016 - 19:34

Aiden Hughes

Mainstream republicans in Congress won't support any of his proposals.

June 16, 2016 - 19:37

Aiden Brown

Even TYT think he's going to "sell" his endorsement to Clinton for certain platform guarantees and concessions. Probably the only reason he hasn't already is because he's stalling until the convention in the hopes that the bitch gets indicted, which if this Guccifer2 prophecy comes true just might happen.

June 16, 2016 - 19:37

Jonathan Richardson

You underestimate the power of mass media. Even Bernie's said it himself - he can't tell people where to go and who to endorse, and they will blame his supporters for ruining the election because they believed in substantial change instead of taking what they can get.
Both ways can lead to disaster, it's just a question of whether or not it ends up happening.

June 16, 2016 - 19:38

Anthony Torres

Do you even Bush, comr8? He's a rubber stamp.

June 16, 2016 - 19:38

Cameron Rogers

He's too proud to be a Bush.

If anything he's gonna be too liberal for mainstream RNC repubs.

June 16, 2016 - 19:41

Blake Bailey

...

June 16, 2016 - 19:46

Daniel Ramirez

Because everyone has been playing him up as some great evil to try to present themselves as champions of rationality and reason and fairness and part of me feels because they know doing so would only bolster his support as well, creating essentially a negative feedback loop

June 16, 2016 - 19:47

Ian Rodriguez

An anime meme image. I've been flabbergasted.

June 16, 2016 - 19:47

Jonathan Jenkins

yeah, you mean the mass media that crushed Trump and prevented Bernie from winning more than two states?

June 16, 2016 - 19:50

Ethan Roberts

...

June 16, 2016 - 19:50

Michael Jackson

lol yeah all that free advertising in the form of media attention crushed trump all the way to primary domination

it was blatant election fraud that kept bernie from winning and there's substantial evidence to prove it

June 16, 2016 - 19:52

William Long

They didn't know how to deal with populist movements succeeding, but they sure know how to deal with populist movements failing ESPECIALLY when it's a spoiler to an election. They did quite a bit to damage Bernie this cycle - obviously, they also angered a massive portion of his supporters but they assured that they were not going to get substantial economic change.

June 16, 2016 - 19:55

Asher Bell

What?

June 16, 2016 - 19:55

Jonathan Reyes

No, it was Hillary Clinton winning the popular vote. Don't debase yourself like this. The states with the most fucked-up voting systems (caucuses) are ones Bernie won.

June 16, 2016 - 19:55

Luke Wilson

Correction - the states with traditional paper ballots and a paper trail to follow were the ones Bernie won.

June 16, 2016 - 19:56

Andrew Perry

...

June 16, 2016 - 19:57

Anthony Gutierrez

Fuck off retard

June 16, 2016 - 19:57

Ryder Hernandez

they don't know shit. The people who matter for the future of socialism in America, the berniecrats, don't give a fuck about journoshills opinions.

June 16, 2016 - 19:58

Anthony Robinson

no, there was literally blatant vote rigging. fuck off.

June 16, 2016 - 19:59

Jonathan Turner

wew lad

June 16, 2016 - 19:59

Caleb Barnes

Even if there was, it certainly didn't decide the election.

You're never going to get anything done if you just dismiss a loss as "IT WAS RIGGED." You seriously think more people voted for Bernie, but it was funnybusinessed into a Hillary victory? That's absolutely delusional.

June 16, 2016 - 20:00

Angel Baker

literally millions of votes disenfranchised/purged from voter rolls but she totally won the popular vote :^)

CTR spotted

June 16, 2016 - 20:01

Benjamin Hughes

You should either fuck off and educate yourself or just stop posting you know nothing faggot.

June 16, 2016 - 20:02

Kevin Ross

Keep living in your fantasy world. Yep, Bernie totally won but it was rigged. Jesus Christ.

June 16, 2016 - 20:02

Isaiah Hill

It easily may have. this is the second-closest primary in the past 40 years. Hillary was consistently outperforming the exit polls by 5% or more. there were countless reports of switched registrations. there was open voter purging. This kind of shit not only may have cost him the election in raw numbers, but hurt his momentum.

All it proves is that socialism needs an irrefutable majority of support to break through in America. A close win is not good enough.

June 16, 2016 - 20:03

David Jenkins

Even if she did win the popular vote (which is likely) it was due to a variety of other funnybusiness.

June 16, 2016 - 20:03

Angel Cook

Yeah, he did totally win, and yeah, it was totally rigged, you fucking dipshit.

June 16, 2016 - 20:03

Kayden Foster

sounds like a shillocrat to me

June 16, 2016 - 20:04

Lincoln Garcia

just gooo lmfao

June 16, 2016 - 20:04

Ryder Roberts

richardcharnin.wordpress.com/2016/06/08/democratic-primary-approval-ratings-matching-pre-election-and-exit-polls-indicate-fraud/

Sanders vs. Trump Clinton vs. Trump

>In a previous post, the True Vote was estimated from actual caucus votes, exit polls, estimated manipulation of voter rolls, absentee and provisional ballots. Sanders leads by 51.5-48.5% (800,000 votes). richardcharnin.wordpress.com/2016/05/28/democratic-primaries-is-clinton-leading-by-3-million-votes/

Sanders vs. Trump Clinton vs. Trump

2004 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION

June 16, 2016 - 20:06

Julian Bailey

I hate Clinton, I'm just laughing at the juvenile suggestion that more people voted for Bernie.

June 16, 2016 - 20:08

Lucas Garcia

richardcharnin.wordpress.com/2016/05/28/democratic-primaries-is-clinton-leading-by-3-million-votes/

– Actual votes in caucus states are not included in the count – to the benefit of Clinton.
– Exit polls indicated voting machines were hacked – to the benefit of Clinton.
– Voter rolls were manipulated – to the benefit of Clinton.
– Long lines and reduced polling stations reduced voter turnout – to the benefit of Clinton.

Probability
26 Exit Polls
n P=1 in
1 2
2 7
3 38
4 266
5 2,415
6 27,384
7 378,644
8 6,280,036
9 123,437,142
10 2,850,178,375
11 76,829,636,415

June 16, 2016 - 20:08

Sebastian Lopez

kill yourself tia

June 16, 2016 - 20:11

Logan Watson

Rolled 2, 1, 3, 2, 2, 3 + 1 = 14 (6d6)
how do I make these dice work again?

June 16, 2016 - 20:39

Nathaniel Fisher

make dice gr8 again

June 16, 2016 - 21:42

Ryder Martin

Lib media is not pleased.

June 16, 2016 - 21:54

Oliver Gray

Good, it means we're doing it right

June 16, 2016 - 21:56

Logan Hall

I can't wait for President For Life Sanders to get rid of Slate. :^)

June 16, 2016 - 22:02

Adam Phillips

that's just outright media butthurt
The first one looks like the title of an Onion article.

June 16, 2016 - 22:02

Nolan Cook

We should teach Bernie necromancy and turn him into a lich. Then have him re-animate all the great leftists through history.

Necrocracy when?

June 16, 2016 - 22:05

Gabriel Ward

You know you are winning when they are turning into a self-parody.

June 16, 2016 - 22:11

Isaiah Flores

youtube.com/watch?v=D5ZqA87dL5E
news on trustvote lawsuit

June 16, 2016 - 22:13

Blake Hughes

(most of the campaign)
(we are currently here)
(the convention)
(the presidency)

June 16, 2016 - 22:14

Jayden Rodriguez

I subscribed and unscubscribed to her channel a few times. She's a true hysteric with all the ups and downs of the whole package.

June 16, 2016 - 22:15

Julian Howard

Didn't he attend Lennin's tomb during his honeymoon?

June 16, 2016 - 22:16

Adrian Sanders

it's an interview

June 16, 2016 - 22:18

Carter Ross

Yes, I can see. I'm talking about her channel and herself.

June 16, 2016 - 22:19

Cooper Bennett

They consummated the marriage atop Lenin's tomb.

June 16, 2016 - 22:20

Hunter James

Good thing about this is all the bleeding heart liberals showing their true faces and siding with establishment.
I propose we create a web site with all their names, articles and sources, BernieHitList.com, so everyone would remember the history.

June 16, 2016 - 22:22

John Harris

So who here is running for office then?
We need an official Holla Forums candidate.

go.berniesanders.com/page/signup/win?source=160616-livestream

June 16, 2016 - 22:23

Jackson Stewart

...

June 16, 2016 - 22:23

Isaac Miller

Just a reminder that retards are comrades too.

June 16, 2016 - 22:23

David Nguyen

I can't wait until my new video card can process all these fps!

June 16, 2016 - 22:24

Grayson Rodriguez

I would be Bernie's Edward Meechum

June 16, 2016 - 22:29

Anthony Roberts

I signed up out of curiosity.
I want to know what he has planned for people who actually want to run

June 16, 2016 - 22:32

Hunter Sanders

...

June 16, 2016 - 22:33

Adam Wilson

Who let you out of the Gulag?

June 16, 2016 - 22:35

Aiden Ortiz

wut? im a comrade

June 16, 2016 - 22:38

Gavin Cooper

Welp, looks like its up to us. Thanks a pantload, Bernie campaign.
electionjusticeusa.org/
trustvote.org/
democracycounts.github.io/
showmethevotes.org/

The difference is, Sanders would actually subsidize education, but Trump hasn't said a single word about LEGAL immigration quotas, as opposed to the meme nonissue of illegals.

The firestorm of hatred on the issue from Sanders/Trump supporters has caused Krugman to make a soft retreat from his long-held stance on NAFTA/GATT/CAFTA/TPP being engines of economic prosperity, even if he still refuses to condemn them. We can smell the stink of fear:
thomaspalley.com/?p=715

It's PC to openly oppose Trump, but not Hillary, so it's much likelier anything loathsome she attempts would succeed than vile policies from him. Also, his brashness might erode the paralyzing verdigris of PC from the left, while her PC pandering would thicken it.

June 16, 2016 - 22:43

Jaxson Powell

Somehow, just somehow.. I feel this is a parody.

June 16, 2016 - 23:33

Owen Williams

The only reason identity politics is successful is backlash against people like Trump. He strengthens liberal idpol. The more successful feminism is, however, the more people get sick of it and wake up to how horrible it is. As long as it's the underdog it will persevere. Clinton as President would be the best blow to idpol as people realize that a woman President actually isn't great just because she has a vagina.

June 16, 2016 - 23:38

Lincoln Miller

It gets worse.

June 16, 2016 - 23:45

Cooper Turner

I thought the same thing before Bush, and especially Obama, back when I actually upheld the black movement as something that had weathered the same 1970s degeneration of a civil rights movement into a supremacy movement as feminism, but unlike feminism emerged from it with a firm general rejection of supremacists from its leadership.

Then Obama came in, idpol surged, and every significant corner of leftism was utterly overwhelmed. Even before Obama, Bush seemed to focus the left somewhat on leftism rather than idpol, with the PC weeniefest that was the 1990s receding noticibly.

So until further evidence emerges, I think an aggressive purge from someone unwilling to play by PC kayfabe rules is likelier than not to deal it a deathblow.

June 16, 2016 - 23:54

Jacob Garcia

I agree comrade. To defeat our enemies, we must hand them victory. The proles are quite savvy and will definitely connect the impacts of Clinton's policies to her actions as President. Nothing gets past the average American voter. Look at how many have pegged Obama as continuing and expanding Bush's policies.

June 16, 2016 - 23:56

William Johnson

...

June 17, 2016 - 00:04

Hunter Clark

Perhaps it's true that having to actually fight for their basic rights and decency gives them something more important to do than fighting over pronouns and girl power, but in my experience that usually provides the base for idpol, which is why it thrived after Bush, not because Obama was elected. I think you're confused about cause and effect, there. Idpol gains acceptance and support when it's not exposed for what it is and can be painted as a struggle against ridiculous right-wing politicians and oppressive policies. It's only when it's brought into the light and given some semblance of power, and has to act as opposed to react, that the majority of people realize it's bullshit. That's what has happened under Obama, and that's what is happening on college campuses, and perhaps in Europe too. Trump might see idpol recede, but only to resurge even stronger afterward. Clinton would see it peter out and lose support as it demonstrates itself to be ludicrous.

June 17, 2016 - 00:08

Aaron Nguyen

why the fuck are they even mad? why can't they just have a little patience and wait for him to lose AT THE END OF THE PRIMARY? How much do they fucking hate democracy?

June 17, 2016 - 00:09

Liam Moore

this would be gold. we could at least have some kind of parody candidate who reads Hoxha scripture in the debates or something.

June 17, 2016 - 00:10

Jaxon Butler

The primary is over and Bernie officially lost. They just want him to say that he actually lost and bend the knee for Hillary because they're all power-grubbing weirdos.

June 17, 2016 - 00:11

Owen Thomas

...

June 17, 2016 - 00:12

Luis Reyes

I feel like I'm living in North Korea or something.

June 17, 2016 - 00:12

Jason Hall

the primary isn't over until the convention, fag.

June 17, 2016 - 00:13

James Hall

The voting phase is over and Hillary is for all intents and purposes the nominee. If you want to be pedantic about it and call me a fag, go for it comrade.

June 17, 2016 - 00:16

Juan Jackson

...

June 17, 2016 - 00:20

Cooper Bailey

I'd much rather be pedantic than apathetic.

June 17, 2016 - 00:21

Oliver Myers

Idk what you are complaining about, it's basically democratic socialism in action. "We had our debates" now its time for unity of the party. Get behind the party line and shut up less we appear weak and disorganized.

June 17, 2016 - 00:21

Levi Nelson

Of course the democratic party is a corporate one, I just don't expect to see the party line being towed here in Holla Forums.

June 17, 2016 - 00:23

Adrian Gray

OBEY
CONSUME
SLEEP

June 17, 2016 - 00:24

Blake Morgan

Nah I'm just fucking with you. I highly doubt anyone on Holla Forums is going to go out and vote for Clinton. Personally if I lived in a swing state I might, if only because the tears of salty alt-right shits is sweet nectar to me.

June 17, 2016 - 00:25

John Cruz

I'm not being apathetic. You're pants-on-head-retarded if you think Bernie is somehow going to get the nomination, be it through a Hillary indictment or all the superdelegates having a last minute road to Damascus moment. It's not going to fucking happen. Hillary is going to be president for the next 8 years. We need to start planning for that instead of holding onto pipe dreams.

June 17, 2016 - 00:25

Luke Nguyen

wew lad

June 17, 2016 - 00:27

Isaiah Jones

Would that have happened if Bush were succeeded by someone like Sanders, rather than a milquetoast DLC-esque centrist in Bill Clinton's mold?

Your stance verges on accelerationism, and sounds far too much like the PRfag attitude that killed GG. I think what's needed to fight PC isn't to let it expose itself through sheer overwhelming insanity (with the plausible if unlikely possibility of it PC morphing into a force of genuinely terrifying totalitarianism), but to aggressively drag it out to the sun from the safety of its warrens, and destroy it in the light of day. The reclamation of what was ours must be as brazen and defiant as possible.

pic related

Whether or not Sanders gets the nom, we will still have to clean out the rigged electoral process to have any hope in the future. Further, casting as much doubt on her "win" as possible will devalue the opposition's political capital. There is zero downside to contesting this sham of a primary and attacking our enemies' personal corruption.

June 17, 2016 - 00:29

Connor Edwards

someone needs to make a hillary version of this

June 17, 2016 - 00:29

Landon Cooper

...

June 17, 2016 - 00:30

Tyler Morales

I'm sorry you apparently having the parsing skills of a fucking gnat, but here, let me spell it out for you in retard-speak: ME NO ENDORSE HILLARY, ME JUST BEING REALISTIC.

The Porky Queen is going to be president for the next 8 years. It was decided awhile ago. In fact, Trump is probably a hired ringer for the Clintons.

Bernie laid a groundwork that hopefully we can build upon. But he's not going to be president.

June 17, 2016 - 00:30

Ayden Bennett

Are you literally fucking retarded? "Planning for that" means building up the grassroots that Bernie has laid. It has nothing to do with giving up.

Like, are you actually retarded or just a shitposting coadjutor? Either way, kindly fuck the fuck off.

June 17, 2016 - 00:31

Ayden Reyes

Totally realistic to vote for a candidate for this reason.

This entire post is defeatist and reads like a CTR post. Hence, not much effort is needed to point out how retarded it is.

Saying give up has nothing to do with giving up?

Like, fuck off back to >>>/reddit/ or actually contribute in a meaningful way in the first place.

June 17, 2016 - 00:40

Wyatt Cooper

Yeah, suggesting that we, say, focus on getting down ballot Bernie democrats elected to local offices instead of still focusing on getting Bernie elected as president (which is an utter delusion at this point) TOTALLY makes me a CTR shill.

Bad faith + cancer-tier parsing skill = your fuckawful shitposts. If anyone belongs on reddit it's you, you fucking mong.

June 17, 2016 - 00:47

Dylan Bell

lol no. that bitch will get four years max, possibly fewer with an impeachment. she's one of the most-hated politicians in history.

June 17, 2016 - 00:48

Brayden Watson

The autism on display ITT right now is why the contemporary left will accomplish nothing of merit.

June 17, 2016 - 00:52

Joshua Jackson

All for it. Just say that in the first place.

This is where you lose me. It's not over yet, and most of us are really looking forward to Philly.

Hey, it's funny to me. Don't really care if it's not to you, user.

June 17, 2016 - 00:53

Angel Hernandez

Lighten up, bud.

June 17, 2016 - 00:54

Aaron Baker

By "prepare for 8 years of Hillary" I was not implying that we give up and prepare to get behind her to defeat Trump, if that's how you took it. I was implying that we prepare for 8 more years of neoliberal hell on earth and figure out ways to deal with it/fight it. I should have made myself more clear and you should not have reacted in bad faith like a turd.

Also, take off the tinfoil. The idea that CTR shills would waste their time on this website/board is beyond laughable.

June 17, 2016 - 00:59

Jose Rivera

Ok.

Still not making yourself look less like a CTR shill. :^)

June 17, 2016 - 01:03

Luke Baker

I actually wouldn't mind CTR coming here to shill. Maybe the poor sap doing it would learn something.

June 17, 2016 - 01:13

Luis Cook

...

June 17, 2016 - 01:17

Thomas Powell

I've often wondered how many have been swayed, but keep doing the job to earn money.

I respect all kinds of hustles, but when you're undermining justice & what the people want, I can't hang with it. CTR is just the worst. I'd much rather sell pot or something, in all honesty. I'd feel much cleaner.

June 17, 2016 - 01:18

Jonathan Brooks

...

June 17, 2016 - 01:22

Christopher Carter

most people have conscience

June 17, 2016 - 01:22

Josiah Williams

If you're working as a paid shill, you either don't give a shit about the issue, or are so thoroughly indoctrinated that anything said against your ideology goes in one ear and out the other.

June 17, 2016 - 01:24

Nicholas Collins

I doubt people with a conscience would sign up for such a job in the first place.

June 17, 2016 - 01:24

Bentley Martin

But.. $$ overrides it sometimes, unfortunately. You'd be surprised how people compromise their morals to survive. BUT - I won't defend undermining justice. I was a full blown addict, and even then, I had some lines I wouldn't cross.

June 17, 2016 - 01:25

Mason Collins

What? I'm accelerationist, and you're not for saying we should let Trump be president so his "vile policies" would erode political correctness? Do you even know what accelerationism is? Jesus Christ.

You can think what you want. I make my decisions based on evidence and reasoning. Milquetoast Obama came to power because of idpol's resurgence in the wake of the Bush presidency. Arguably, Bush came to power because of the backlash against idpol during Clinton's time. The only thing proven to expose idpol to the light of day is to show what happens when it has to act as opposed to react. Horrible right-wing presidencies (and especially accompanying right-wing Congressional majorities) are the warren of idpol. That's where it breeds and spreads. All this is observable in history, as opposed to your tiresome "what ifs."

June 17, 2016 - 01:25

Owen Sullivan

How do you even get or apply for such a job? That's what I've always wondered.

June 17, 2016 - 01:28

Logan Williams

This. Being paid to shitpost is pretty mug change a dream come true, and if you're subtle enough, you could use the opportunity to actually spread facts instead of rhetoric.

June 17, 2016 - 01:33

Tyler Kelly

Maybe they go around recruiting people. Or hire people with connections to the campaign. Or give workers in China who can barely speak English a list of phrases to copypasta.

June 17, 2016 - 01:34

Jace Gray

autocorrect what the fuck

June 17, 2016 - 01:34

Jaxon Edwards

Why do you want to know, user?

I'm sure there are ways to go about it.. if one was so inclined on undermining the will of the people

June 17, 2016 - 01:35

Adam Peterson

This seems most likely. Or just people that can speak English decently from other countries that are willing to work for dirt cheap.

If we knew their recruiting/hiring methods we could perhaps do something to disrupt it.

June 17, 2016 - 01:40

Levi Torres

markets do wonders ;^)

June 17, 2016 - 01:41

Mason Jenkins

mein neger

June 17, 2016 - 01:42

Angel Hill

Then I would say their website probably has some link or something. They put everything up there anyway, so I don't see why not.

June 17, 2016 - 01:47

Oliver Cooper

By accelerationist, I was referring to your turn the other cheek suggestion toward PC, not about Trump's non-culture-wars-related generic rightist policies.

Trump's policies are less likely to actually happen than Hillary's IMHO. Anyway, I'm not saying Trump's actual policies would harm PC, but that his rhetoric will, also acting as a lightning rod to draw them into the open and lend morale to attacks on them by others. That doesn't even take into account Hillary's explicit statements she's going to give power to identitarians as ablative PR armor.

As for the Bush/Gore contest, I don't remember PC being a huge issue in that election (even if nearly as annoying, PC was a lot less vicious back then, too). I think Bush's support mostly came from classcuck "muh taxes, muh freeloaders" myopic greed and a Republican anti-Clinton grudge.

June 17, 2016 - 01:49

Wyatt Powell

DoC? Mine was opiates(any kind), then methadone for 9 years, now I'm back to opiates again, but now it's for a legitimate pain condition(which developed ironically when detoxing improperly from 110mg daily). If there is a God, they have a twisted sense of humor, sometimes.

June 17, 2016 - 01:50

Isaiah Stewart

Besides, if Trump wins the election it will be on the wave of backlash against idpol because of, you guessed it, the last 8 years of Obama that you criticize.

June 17, 2016 - 01:55

Jaxson Collins

what is

June 17, 2016 - 01:56

Noah Allen

Drug of choice

June 17, 2016 - 01:57

Tyler Ross

I prefer none, but sometimes its hard to do without (like when studying for meaningless university exams, I just have to attempt to sabotage myself). So you'd agree that addiction is basically a matter of choice? ;^)

June 17, 2016 - 02:01

Hunter Edwards

True, it could be that Trump is the start of a vicious cycle of left-idpol feeding right-idpol. But contrariwise, couldn't that be a testament to his campaign's effectiveness in energizing opponents of idpol across the political spectrum?

June 17, 2016 - 02:06

Benjamin Murphy

Brexit vote soon. British Holla Forums is insane.
splcenter.org/hatewatch/2016/06/16/alleged-killer-british-mp-was-longtime-supporter-neo-nazi-national-alliance

June 17, 2016 - 02:08

Benjamin Thompson

Haha, what's funny is, I can remember being in some drug rehab class when I was 14 I got an early start and we had some stupid debate project to argue whether it was a choice or genetics. Retarded back & white argument, I know. I was put on the side of "it's a personal choice". Even though I didn't agree, I won the debate.

Good you prefer none, then you won't be dependent on one. That's how I used to be. Keep it mixed up & don't overdo it. Harm reduction sites like bluelight & erowid I've found helpful - you can learn from others' mistakes, lmao.

After going down the long road so far, I've come to accept that I just don't want to be completely sober & likely won't ever be. We all have our vices. I overdid it all these years & just feel like shit when I'm sober. Exercising does give a rush though, that I enjoy. Maybe one day I'll replace it with that.. Maybe.

June 17, 2016 - 02:11

Kayden Rodriguez

Idpol: Not even once.

June 17, 2016 - 02:13

Nathan Gomez

So you chose?

June 17, 2016 - 02:15

Jeremiah Price

And then you didn't choose. It seems to me choices are being made here.

June 17, 2016 - 02:20

Evan Mitchell

Get out of my mind!
youtube.com/watch?v=VTP15uTE8aA

I'm going to track down the exact clip & make a webm. :)

June 17, 2016 - 02:24

Nathaniel Barnes

Apparently this is a reenactment of the Cheryl Mills deposition if anyone's interested.
youtube.com/watch?v=OIloC3n2Suo

Kind of entertaining.

June 17, 2016 - 05:24

Elijah Gutierrez

twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/743604646057500673

You can't make this shit up.

June 17, 2016 - 06:28

Luis Jones

He said that during the stream fam

June 17, 2016 - 06:29

Gavin Gonzalez

He never said he's backing her though. He's a politician; he's working with everyone. I particularly like the way he words most things.

I think once the DNC will inevitably snub him and his supporters during the convention, he can use this to our advantage.. Again.

June 17, 2016 - 07:02

Luis Clark

youtube.com/watch?v=QApICxqiZcw&feature=youtu.be

At 3:25 you hear Hillary say, "Do you know how many times I've been investigated? What if they could see my emails; can you imagine?"

This was from a while back, too.

June 17, 2016 - 07:20

Xavier Clark

He's been saying that for fucking months already
Calm down

June 17, 2016 - 07:23

Cameron Rogers

freebeacon.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/HRC-classified-NDA1.pdf

June 17, 2016 - 07:26

Eli Reed

Weird.

June 17, 2016 - 08:30

Nicholas Smith

Timestamp?

June 17, 2016 - 09:34

John Thompson

...

June 17, 2016 - 10:28

Xavier Johnson

I hate these faggots.

June 17, 2016 - 10:31

Angel Perez

...

June 17, 2016 - 10:44

Jack Mitchell

They're scared as fuck that they might actually have to work for our vote.

June 17, 2016 - 11:23

Ian Fisher

I know these fuckers will blame us if she loses to Trump too.
Eternal victims.

June 17, 2016 - 11:36

Tyler Sanchez

It's scary how much they fear nonconformity.

June 17, 2016 - 12:16

Benjamin Lopez

...

June 17, 2016 - 12:18

Jackson Mitchell

Jesus, what a pussy. Good luck getting laid, "Branden".

June 17, 2016 - 12:23

Lincoln Nelson

...

June 17, 2016 - 12:48

Easton Phillips

Why does this video have a high amount of likes?

youtube.com/watch?v=RzHSNjctOCk

Bernie is a traitor for grovelling to Hillary and the DNC.

June 17, 2016 - 13:33

Landon Powell

hellloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo REDDIT!

June 17, 2016 - 13:42

Anthony Cook

But I'll indulge anyway, lmao.

He's not groveling, he's slowly exposing the corruption to the American people who somehow weren't aware of it. In most cases, they're working so hard and often they literally can't afford to even pay attention enough. I was there once; and morale has been extremely low for a while now with Americans, too. Bernie's energized and enlightened many. He's speaking about the issues that actually affect Americans daily - which no other candidates were until they saw how popular it made him - despite a media blackout and constant smear campaigns. His popularity gave me more faith in my fellow Americans.

I think once the DNC inevitably snubs Bernie and his supporters at the convention, it will wake and energize even more people.

I don't know what will happen in the coming months, but I do know he's doing some major good for America.

Bernie's a smart politician; he knows what he's doing. I don't think there's any scenario in which he's done bad for America and Americans.

June 17, 2016 - 13:49

Aaron Cook

Is the DNC so arrogant and stupid that they'll kill themselves, and their entire down ticket race, for Hillary?

June 17, 2016 - 14:05

Jayden Taylor

Hell yeah, they are. They've basically already done it, many times over. DWS has completely ignored down tickets all over the US, and the Dems lost major power. Not to mention the insane shitshow that is our media, colluding with the DNC. This is business as usual.

June 17, 2016 - 14:13

Isaiah Gonzalez

POLITICAL
REVOLUTION

June 17, 2016 - 14:45

Hunter Flores

we insurgent now

June 17, 2016 - 14:49

Ian Nguyen

What makes it worse is that while the DNC is weakening their own power(like laundering general funds to Hillary), the RNC is working to maintain theirs. It seems they're taking a play from Sanders' book and focusing on the down ticket races to both compensate for their shit candidate.

The Democratic establishment seems content fiddle while Rome burns.

June 17, 2016 - 15:08

Joseph Anderson

So they can cuck out to Shillary and the DNC like Sanders did?

June 17, 2016 - 15:12

Thomas Robinson

...

June 17, 2016 - 15:18

Hudson Long

I'm sure that if Trump had a political insurgency (such as a renewed Tea Party caucus) boiling up behind him like Sanders, the Republicans would be no different. Even as is, there are persistent rumors that some kind of RNC coup/court judgment assassination is in the wings by GOP insiders against him. Both major parties, regardless of their squabbles, want to keep hold of their positions. Although knocking Trump out of the nomination would be a fantastic license for Sanders to go 3rd party and drop any pretense of "party unity"

June 17, 2016 - 15:19

Mason Gray

Why do people respond like this to posts that are clearly ironic/sarcastic? Is it autism?

June 17, 2016 - 15:20

Samuel Wood

Are you bored user? Or just retarded?

June 17, 2016 - 15:22

Henry Torres

myy doooooggggg leemme just congratulate you on that SIMPLY EPIC POST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! highfivums my droog…

June 17, 2016 - 15:23

Easton Brooks

after the presidential election, what reason could they have to do this?

June 17, 2016 - 15:24

Kayden Collins

...

June 17, 2016 - 15:33

Zachary Kelly

he fucking lost the primary, how does it matter now?

June 17, 2016 - 17:31

Angel King

CTR SHILLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!! HE DIDNT LOSE HE IS LITERALLY GOING TO BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT AFTER HILLARY IS INDICTED REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE GO BACK TO REDDIT

June 17, 2016 - 17:45

Noah Miller

ebin

June 17, 2016 - 17:51

Luke Harris

i am implying that he lost and will endorse dem. nominee and will not run third party as he said earlier

June 17, 2016 - 18:05

Juan Wilson

Oh, shit.
He was serious.

June 17, 2016 - 18:10

Samuel Wilson

...

June 17, 2016 - 18:17

Jason Powell

observer.com/2016/06/guccifer-2-0-leak-reveals-how-dnc-rigged-primaries-for-clinton/
IT'S HER TURN, BERNIE BROS

June 17, 2016 - 18:23

Nolan Roberts

SLICK

June 17, 2016 - 18:39

Jacob Foster

I guess 7,000 people signed up.
If even half of those are serious, then he could really turn the tables on the dems

June 17, 2016 - 18:40

Adam Ross

Where do I sign up to run for office as part of Bernie's revolution? I'm a NEET but it sounds like fun.

June 17, 2016 - 18:43

Eli Campbell

go.berniesanders.com/page/signup/win?source=160616-livestream

June 17, 2016 - 18:44

Xavier Evans

Thanks :)

June 17, 2016 - 18:54

Andrew Cooper

epic post Holla Forumsro!

June 17, 2016 - 19:18

Parker Martin

If you do well you might wind up with a job :^)

June 17, 2016 - 19:20

Camden Nguyen

Who better than a class-conscious neet to run for office? This may be the wine talking, but I am so ready for this revolution, who's with me guys? Fuck yeah we're gonna kick porky's ass fuck Hillary and trump and dws Fuck em all I have so much energy I want to put into the revolution but comrades are so few and few between and then when you find them they're shit fuck mls I hate state worshippers

June 17, 2016 - 19:38

Ayden Thomas

Given that run on sentence I think you might be right, lad

June 17, 2016 - 19:47

Cameron Morgan

youtube.com/watch?v=2eLstcQ_83s
shill here everyone

June 17, 2016 - 19:49

Jackson Fisher

reverbpress.com/politics/debbie-wasserman-schultz-prepares-to-exit-from-dnc/

June 17, 2016 - 20:00

Oliver Mitchell

who would vote for you?

June 17, 2016 - 20:04

Carter Perez

so they're just sacrificing her to some class traitor union leader to try and get the lefties off their backs.

June 17, 2016 - 20:06

Zachary Murphy

Yup, cutting the baggage and no doubt giving her some hefty compensation for the trouble.

June 17, 2016 - 20:07

Camden Miller

WE GET ONE!

Or is this ideology making me think we got one?

June 17, 2016 - 22:29

Luke Hill

>>>/tumblr/

June 17, 2016 - 23:02

Brody Brown

this too.

why exactly are we supposed to be mad at DWS when she literally just did everything Hillary told her to? Hillary is clearly still the problem.

June 17, 2016 - 23:05

Brandon Russell

>>>/tumblr/ & >>>/gulag/

June 17, 2016 - 23:25

Michael Mitchell

youtu.be/aB-wuFv2O1w?t=8m22s
Wes "FuckThatKid" Clark is on point.

June 18, 2016 - 00:24

Robert Thomas

Do we know anything else about this guy yet? I'm automatically skeptical if the Clinton camp is happy with him.

June 18, 2016 - 00:35

Oliver Anderson

This is him lol

June 18, 2016 - 00:46

Brayden Martin

We need a Holla Forums surrogate comrade

June 18, 2016 - 06:31

Josiah Green

>web.archive.org/web/20160617161540/http://www.vox.com/2016/6/17/11962476/bernie-sanders-enrage-insiders
Thoughts?

June 18, 2016 - 07:03

Jayden Nguyen

By donating to his campaign? These people are delusional.

June 18, 2016 - 07:07

Jose Roberts

Garbage damage control. Most likely an article the DNC didn't want to leave its "fingerprints" on.

June 18, 2016 - 07:07

Jackson Lee

Don't use the archive.org Wayback Machine for archival, it was outed early in GG as having been infiltrated by pod people at the beck and call of the LWs. Use archive.is instead.

June 18, 2016 - 08:17

Eli Rogers

Wasn't SEIU one of the unions doing dodgy shit to their members during the primaries?

June 18, 2016 - 09:48

Elijah Rogers

fecking what

June 18, 2016 - 09:48

Tyler Gray

Fantastic PDF on the Political Economy of Security.

An extract

[…] The ongoing reporting on the NSA and the GCHQ surveillance scandal provides an in-depth appreciation
for the ways in which states can conjointly deploy policies and practices of securitization of information
and communications. Another example of the transformation of the domain of information and
communications into a matter of national security (Deibert 2011: 24) is the United Nations (UN) General
Assembly resolution that the Russian Federation, China, Tajikistan, and Uzbekistan presented in
September 2011. The resolution proposed a code of conduct for information security and the protection of
national sovereignty in information and communications—this “could give any state the right to censor or
block international communications for almost any reason” as well as “could even be used for trade
protectionism in cultural industries” (Internet Governance Project 20th September 2011). The
securitization of information and communications at the national level is a common enough policy, but
their attempted securitization at the level of international politico-economic blocs is a much more recent
tendency in global politics […]

[…] Contemporary tendencies in state and corporate policies and practices concerning ICT include various
aspects of securitization, censorship, and surveillance. Identifying these tendencies allows for clarifying
the implications of what is emerging and developing quite rapidly in our contemporary surveillance
society: a global political economy of surveillance. Kirstie Ball and Laureen Snider explain political
economy as “the interconnection of social, economic, and political processes” (Ball and Snider 2013: 1)
They share with this article the opinion that our global surveillance society is driven by the political
economies desired by its most dominant players, which are also its two most “massive configurations of
power”: the state and the corporation (idem: 1-2). For this reason, Ball and Snider draw attention to “the
embeddedness of surveillance processes within the activities and agendas of global capital and the state”
(idem: 5).

June 18, 2016 - 09:52

Brandon Parker

>twitter.com/wikileaks/status/743824112376766465
Possible happenings

June 18, 2016 - 10:08

Cameron King

thisisvideogames.com/gamergatewiki/index.php?title=Timeline/Full#19_Aug_2014
>archive.today/sQkw6

June 18, 2016 - 11:20

John Morris

okay?

June 18, 2016 - 11:44

Noah Reed

...

June 18, 2016 - 11:57

Levi Gomez

I don't have the energy to address everything wrong with this

So have a reaction Pepe

June 18, 2016 - 12:58

Aiden Clark

I wonder if Assange, et al. has been in touch with the Bernie camp and that's why he hasn't formally dropped out yet?

June 18, 2016 - 13:50

Carson Diaz

Actually, let me say this:

The fact that the Obamacare debacle was essentially just a replay of the Hillarycare debacle, and that Clinton has made using the same style of governing that caused those first two abortions of progress goes to show that at the VERY LEAST the Democratic Party leadership is reaching a level of stupidity and willful ignorance that in itself could be considered malicious, if they aren't corrupt themselves.

June 18, 2016 - 13:52

Owen Peterson

reddit.com/r/worldpolitics/comments/4oo02i/obama_allows_state_dept_to_hold_hillary_emails/

OBAMA ALLOWS STATE DEPARTMENT TO HOLD HILLARY'S EMAILS UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION

June 18, 2016 - 13:58

Ethan Sullivan

wew laddos

June 18, 2016 - 14:00

Landon Davis

...

June 18, 2016 - 14:04

Bentley Allen

not sure why i memetexted tbh

June 18, 2016 - 14:05

Brandon Carter

That does it. I'll be at the convention handing out lengths of rope and instructional flyers for how to tie knots.

June 18, 2016 - 14:07

Adam Gonzalez

This is probably why Assange is about to drop Clintons emails tbf

June 18, 2016 - 14:11

Jonathan Jackson

It's more like the stink from this shit is so absolutely terrible even CNN can't ignore it.

I wonder how the Hillary Hacks will try to brush this aside?

June 18, 2016 - 14:16

Liam Wilson

They'll manage to blame it on Bernie, Trump, and sexism all at the same time

June 18, 2016 - 14:18

Blake Perry

Perverted misogynerds are trying to peep in on a strong woman's email, and magic negro president is stopping them.

June 18, 2016 - 14:18

Ryan Parker

The relevant video: youtube.com/watch?v=eCcvxIkxFEM

Bern the witch.

Apparently this is about the emails relevant to the TPP. It shouldn't stand in the way of the FBI recommending indictments, right? But it does give us an idea that the Obama admin is protecting her, like we all assumed would happen..

June 18, 2016 - 14:19

Isaac Cooper

Jake Tapper is sometimes a legit journalist. Certainly the most legit journalist CNN has. What's the deal and how long until he's shitcanned?

June 18, 2016 - 14:21

Caleb Ortiz

for a second I thought that was a stock photograph

June 18, 2016 - 14:22

Brody Cooper

Obviously I'd only watched the first half of that video, while posting. Wtf.

June 18, 2016 - 14:23

Nathaniel Stewart

No surprise there. Tbf though the TPP is an accelerationist's wet dream. Imagine the rage when PewDiePie and everyone like him goes to prison for copyright infringement. Imagine the rage when you're not allowed to write bad reviews of a product because the manufacturer didn't give you permission to refer to it in that context.

IIRC he made a few tweets trying to express frustration with the election bullshit in general.

June 18, 2016 - 14:23

Henry Hughes

...

June 18, 2016 - 14:27

Matthew Nelson

What did they mean by this?

June 18, 2016 - 14:30

Benjamin Cooper

It means the emails will never be released until they are leaked.

June 18, 2016 - 14:32

Jayden Young

Unless they are leaked, rather. I have doubts in Assange.

June 18, 2016 - 14:33

Adrian Stewart

What are the democrats even doing? There has to be something damning in the emails if Obama is having them hold the emails until after the entire election. They have to know how insanely suspicious that is.

Maybe the Dems have the idea of trying to get Clinton elected first, and then if she gets impeached they can put up her vice president or something.

June 18, 2016 - 14:43

Anthony Green

...

June 18, 2016 - 14:50

Cameron Anderson

youtube.com/watch?v=dJN-r9Qza0c
MMT faggots live

June 18, 2016 - 15:39

Jordan Richardson

Nice to know we can look forward to an impeachment hearing right after the election.

June 18, 2016 - 16:34

Blake Hughes

richardcharnin.wordpress.com/2016/06/18/democratic-primary-exit-polls-were-adjusted-to-match-the-recorded-vote-to-within-0-06/

Democratic primary exit polls were adjusted to match the recorded vote to within 0.06%

>Democratic primary exit polls were adjusted to match the recorded vote to within 0.06%. This confirms what we already know: Unadjusted exit polls are always forced to match the recorded vote. The premise is that there is ZERO fraud in every election polled. View the adjusted polls: cnn.com/election/primaries/polls

Adjusted Exit Poll discrepancies from the recorded vote

>View the calculations to determine the discrepancies in this spreadsheet: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sGxtIofohrj3POpwq-85Id2_fYKgvgoWbPZacZw0XlY/edit#gid=1591963017

Source:CNN Clinton Sanders Other
Average 0.06% -0.19% 0.20%

CT -1.48% 0.06% 1.42%
MD -2.57% -1.21% 3.78%
PA -0.50% -0.50% 1.00%
IN -0.38% 0.38%
AL -0.64% 0.61% 0.03%
AR 2.91% -0.72% -2.19%
FL 0.04% -0.76% 0.72%
GA 0.87% -1.36% 0.49%
IL -0.06% -0.04% 0.10%
IN -0.38% 0.38%
MA 0.75% -0.39% -0.36%
MI -0.42% -0.33% 0.75%
MO -0.10% 0.00% 0.10%
MS 0.21% -0.02% -0.19%
NC 0.20% 0.40% -0.60%
NH 0.60% 0.00% -0.60%
NY -0.32% 0.32%
OH -0.10% 0.50% -0.40%
OK -0.42% 0.59% -0.17%
SC 1.21% -0.71%
TN 1.37% -0.91% -0.46%
TX 1.02% -1.00% -0.02%
VA 0.12% -0.03% -0.09%
VT -0.06% 0.34%
WI -0.13% -0.55% 0.68%
WV -0.24% 0.02% 0.22%

June 18, 2016 - 17:25

Aiden Ramirez

I bet there's something in them that implicates Obama, too.

June 18, 2016 - 19:53

Nathan Jones

bump

June 19, 2016 - 12:30

Lucas Gonzalez

Why is it so silent now?

June 19, 2016 - 13:31

Levi Ramirez

Calm before the storm

June 19, 2016 - 13:53

David Carter

All hope is dead.

June 19, 2016 - 13:53

Lincoln Gutierrez

Lmao, I think this, too.

Also, I just realized it's the weekend, so that would explain a little.

June 19, 2016 - 14:21

Alexander Roberts

...

June 19, 2016 - 15:03

Luis Brown

Where do you think we are?

June 19, 2016 - 15:47

Joshua Miller

Weekend is when normies are free and drag comrades out of their bunkers.

June 19, 2016 - 15:59

Ayden Fisher

this guy is such a fucking joke lmao

June 19, 2016 - 16:26

Ryder Scott

literally a non-issue

June 19, 2016 - 16:30

Alexander Carter

So (not trolling) why do you leftists hate Trump so much? His policies don't really seem mutually exclusive from some left-leaning ideas, at leaat not more or less so then Bernie

June 19, 2016 - 16:32

Colton Lopez

What policies?

June 19, 2016 - 16:33

Charles Fisher

Holla Forums, taking the Poe law to a new level.

June 19, 2016 - 16:36

Dylan Walker

So he's a moderate willing to explore ideas, believe it or not, a lot of US presidential candidates are, I wouldn't exactly consider Obongo a full-on lefty for example

June 19, 2016 - 16:36

Nathan King

no really?

June 19, 2016 - 16:37

Lucas Myers

Man Holla Forumsyps are slavebois.
He could light a toddler on fire and jerk off in the corner and father a black child, they'd still defend him.

June 19, 2016 - 16:39

Easton Gomez

yeah you say that but i hear things like "fat-shaming" and "mansplaining" and "microaggressions" popping up more and more in media, from commercials to the op-ed section

June 19, 2016 - 16:40

Jason Miller

no, he's a flip-flopping faggot with no real stances on the issues. you can't say his policies aren't mutually exclusive with leftism when he fucking has none, except for some half-baked bullshit he's somewhat consistent on like his retarded border wall.

fucking listen to yourself. "moderate willing to explore the issues"? you sound like the media, putting a nice spin on the story. what a brainwashed idiot.

June 19, 2016 - 16:41

Brody Diaz

If I recall correctly, the media is constantly trying to slander Trump by calling hin le racist wall builder

June 19, 2016 - 16:44

Ryder Moore

the thing that is so sad about you Holla Forums is that you realize how shitty the media is yet for 100 percent the wrong reasons. Yes Trump has slandered Trump as racist but they also have given him vastly more coverage than Bernie Sanders (who is supposed to be his Left-Wing equivalent) which shows that they are much more ready to support a flip-flopping, potential second Bush, than a person who is internationally a centre-left social democrat because that's "too radical"

This shows that the media is not liberal and, much to the contrary, follows the status quo set by the Right-leaning corporate Ruling Class to a t

pic related

June 19, 2016 - 16:51

Landon Sullivan

...

June 19, 2016 - 16:52

Ethan Harris

...

June 19, 2016 - 16:53

Hunter Kelly

The media won Trump the primaries. They don't care about slandering him, they just care that idiots tune in to the crazy things he says for entertainment.

June 19, 2016 - 16:54

Jose Baker

Except they didn't support him, and still don't support him. They just wanted the easy clicks/views from morally-outraged SJWs WOW JUST WOWing at someone proposing literally-Hitler ideas like a temporary ban on Muslim immigration and a border wall.

You must be another brand of delusional to think that the same media organisations that spent the entire primaries insisting that Trump would be "too controversial" to win a single primary, and then was again "too controversial" to avoid a contested convention (Nate Silver told us so!) are somehow happy with Trump.

PROTIP: He wasn't supposed to get the nomination. The nomination was supposed to go to a "gracious loser" like Rubio or Bush that could be expected to stutter and insist he didn't hate women with a burning passion when faced with Hillary

June 19, 2016 - 17:25

Dominic Murphy

Why wouldn't they be happy with Trump? He won't raise their taxes and he'll give them the highest number of views in history during his term.

June 19, 2016 - 17:29

Austin Gomez

Notice the period where the media has been going after Trump is also the period where he's said fuck you to big money. He's grovelling to the Kochs right now and I bet you the next month of coverage is going to be moderately negative at worst.

June 19, 2016 - 17:31

Jace Hill

Because they'd be happier with Hillary.

June 19, 2016 - 17:51

Ryan Peterson

No shit, they'd be fine with either one. That's why they've been ignoring Bernie this whole time, because he is the only threat to them.

June 19, 2016 - 18:25

Jason Roberts

No you don't.

June 19, 2016 - 18:25

Grayson Russell

Literally non-issues

June 19, 2016 - 18:28

Noah Gray

...

June 19, 2016 - 18:39

Easton Rivera

If the alt-right wants to help us purge the turncoats and dead weight from our movement, I'll slit throats alongside them with a smile on my face and a song in my heart.

June 19, 2016 - 20:56

Jonathan Robinson

Sounds more like an argument against it

June 19, 2016 - 20:59

Samuel Cooper

No alliance can be had when they'd soon as slit your throats as your enemies. They probably don't even see the difference.

June 19, 2016 - 21:00

Zachary Russell

Sure they do. They'd see him as the last throat to slit, after he helped them slit the others' throats.

June 19, 2016 - 21:06

Jaxon Lopez

...

June 19, 2016 - 21:08

Nicholas Sanchez

They don't want to do this. They want to destroy the left so they can have a cultural hegemony.

June 19, 2016 - 21:08

Luis Anderson

...

June 19, 2016 - 21:09

Easton Myers

Yep. This is exactly the mentality that the bourgeois uses to make the proletariat fight each other.

June 19, 2016 - 21:09

Jaxon Hughes

It's a lot more pervasive than that. These shits are in the education system and government trying to create an ideology to distract people from the conditions of late capitalism that will drive us toward revolution. For fuck's sake, the President of the United States says that women earn 77% of what men do for the same work and has gone full white guilt on every racial issue he has discussed.

June 19, 2016 - 21:13

Ayden Morgan

So what do you want to do? Murder children and their teachers in front of them? You bitch about education as if it's your right to determine ideological or even linguistic principles, and then you want to slaughter them on a technical virtue?

This is a serious case of revisionism.

June 19, 2016 - 21:28

Aiden Harris

You're talking to more than one person, fam. I'm just pointing out the bullshit about SJWs not being an issue is retarded.

June 19, 2016 - 21:34

Daniel James

Its not as serious as you make it sound tbh

June 19, 2016 - 21:36

Ian Hall

Nigga, the POTUS espouses it.

June 19, 2016 - 21:38

Luis Gonzalez

There are enough republicans in congress to block him if he tries shit. Seriously lad, they have a lot less power than you think

June 19, 2016 - 21:40

Isaiah Hernandez

That's not my point. I'm using POTUS as a measurement of how mainstream the ideology is. I'm not worried about the President acting on it. I'm worried about every day people acting on it. POTUS is just paying lip service. The problem is that enough people buy into that bullshit that it wins him Good Barack Points.

June 19, 2016 - 21:45

Chase Perry

Well hopefully this election the alt-rights and sjws will finish each other off and the left can make a comeback

June 19, 2016 - 21:49

Tyler Hernandez

Wow, so WE'RE the ones who want to people killed to protect our feefees?
reason.com/blog/2015/05/01/145-intellectuals-agree-dead-cartoonists
Take a look in the mirror

At which point, we'll be strengthened by their efforts, and they'll be weakened from the attrition of fighting our battles. They are the only significant organized political faction that isn't pro-SJW right now, think of it like the WWII east-west cooperation between the Allies. Basically this here, we need shock troops.

June 19, 2016 - 22:25

Jason Walker

lol why don't you look in the mirror

June 19, 2016 - 23:13

Levi Martin

Okay, so we both understand what is and isn't hyperbole.

They aren't just a porky plot to saddle leftism with neoliberal porkiness, they've grown in terms of ambition. These people are diametrically opposed to the ideals of objectivity, rationality, truth, openness, consistency, and fairness. They don't yet have enough influence to act on it, and I think it's relatively unlikely they will, but if given the chance they would tear away at the intellectual foundations of everything civilization has accomplished since the enlightenment. Even worse, they are one of the few political factions with almost no open mainstream opposition.

I am genuinely terrified of what these people could become, they remind me of reading about future Khmer Rouge sipping coffee in Parisian riverbank cafés.

June 19, 2016 - 23:39

Jason Harris

Where's that triggered yin/yang pic when you need it?

June 19, 2016 - 23:41

Matthew Nelson

They're going to become gods, don't ya' know? :~)

June 19, 2016 - 23:46

Ian Bell

...

June 19, 2016 - 23:55

Carter Kelly

This isn't a situation with an easy out

June 20, 2016 - 00:27

Evan Watson

SJWs are poison to everything, except to porky. Porky loves SJWs. Divides all of us up into neat little fighting factions so that porky can come in on every side, and all the little horizontally stratified proletariats can beg porky for favors like the king used to do with his squabbling sycophants.
In fact, it's exactly what kings used to do, creating conflicts between the people lower on the ladder so everyone would beg for the king's favor instead of trying to depose the king.
What a coincidence!

June 20, 2016 - 00:35

Aiden Reyes

looks like the symbols in the GTA V hippie camp

June 20, 2016 - 01:06

Hudson Hill

youtube.com/watch?v=wKhe9C-EtHU

washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/06/16/uc-teaching-faculty-members-not-to-criticize-race-based-affirmative-action-call-america-melting-pot-and-more/

nytimes.com/2014/03/22/us/as-diversity-increases-slights-get-subtler-but-still-sting.html

i can't find the "has your doctor been fat shaming you?" one because it was on the radio, but you can still eat shit

fucking kill yourself you stupid asshole

June 20, 2016 - 01:51

Alexander Garcia

twitter.com/Reuters/status/744890617306681344

KEK looks like Trump can't afford to keep his election staff.

June 20, 2016 - 06:58

Ian Richardson

or maybe it's because of his dropping poll numbers?

June 20, 2016 - 07:33

Levi Jones

Bernie keeps flipping counties in California as the hand counted ballots come in

vote.sos.ca.gov/
reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4ow1rz/calielectionfraud_bernie_wins_handcounted_mailin/

I doubt he'll win in the long run though

June 20, 2016 - 08:19

Nolan Hill

washingtonpost.com/blogs/compost/wp/2016/06/14/how-to-cover-donald-trump-fairly-a-style-guide/

June 20, 2016 - 09:04

Robert Green

Neither of those articles contain "fat-shaming" or "mansplaining", and that ad is…? Something? It has 64 views and doesn't even seem like something run on TV.

June 20, 2016 - 09:08

Thomas Cruz

Even if he did it wouldn't change anything. The media already reported he lost CA. Normalfags stopped paying attention a while ago.

June 20, 2016 - 10:31

Brayden Foster

oh i guess "microaggressions" doesn't count huh

continue eating shit you disingenuous faggot

June 20, 2016 - 12:27

Luke Wood

It seems like you were triggered by a Holocaust, dude.

June 20, 2016 - 12:41

Nathan Cooper

Today was a good day

June 20, 2016 - 12:44

Nicholas Barnes

youtube.com/watch?v=D5ugmNoanx8&feature=youtu.be
The Young Turks decided to make a documentary about the California shit lmao

June 20, 2016 - 12:59

Joseph Gomez

okay baby boy

June 20, 2016 - 13:09

Brandon Wright

Milo's so weird. He thinks if he makes people mad, he wins and all his stupid politic ideals are validated. He's like a child who thinks if they keep asking you for a cookie they'll get one.

June 20, 2016 - 14:19

Jeremiah Wright

Gee, I wonder why people on a Marxist site would hate an embodiment of the American capitalist system who also appeals to Nazis and other fascist nationalists who enjoy putting Marxists, socialists, and others into jail or shallow graves.

You dense motherfucker

June 20, 2016 - 14:25

Jack Hall

No wonder autistic anons like him so much

June 20, 2016 - 14:32

Camden Flores

No, he's a demagogue who says whatever works at the time.

June 20, 2016 - 14:37

Asher Wright

Isn't the deadline for counting them soon?

June 20, 2016 - 14:39

Julian Foster

which means that enough random people were searched to catch people out of sheer luck

racial profiling is why blacks don't like the fucking cops

June 20, 2016 - 14:40

Kayden Williams

Bernie Sanders Revolution Fights On

youtube.com/watch?v=8OLCy5LZzB0

June 20, 2016 - 14:43

Gabriel Cox

I really wonder if he's just meant to be the fall guy for Clinton.

June 20, 2016 - 14:51

Xavier Ortiz

Didn't he and Bill have a meeting before he announced his candidacy?

June 20, 2016 - 14:54

Adrian Butler

we can use this to redpill blinded proles on american "democracy"

June 20, 2016 - 14:56

Carson Cook

If he can get the crybullies to spergout in a sufficiently embarrassing way over something so trifling, that will show normalfags how little they deserve the positions they're in.

BERN BABY BERN

June 20, 2016 - 15:44

Ayden Richardson

More young people voted for Bernie Sanders than Trump and Clinton combined — by a lot

washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/20/more-young-people-voted-for-bernie-sanders-than-trump-and-clinton-combined-by-a-lot/

It's hard to overemphasize how completely and utterly Sen. Bernie Sanders dominated the youth vote to this point in the 2016 presidential campaign. While Hillary Clinton dominated him among older voters, he dominated her right back among younger voters – even winning more than 80 percent of their votes in some states against no less than the eventual Democratic nominee.

But this fact might say it better than any: In the 2016 campaign, Sanders won more votes among those under age 30 than the two presumptive major-party presidential nominees combined. And it wasn't close.

June 20, 2016 - 16:32

Matthew Rivera

This something we've known for ages now.

It's very frustrating. The DNC are basically declaring a suicidal war against the Obama voters.

June 20, 2016 - 18:39

James Barnes

Feds: Man Tried to Shoot Trump

archive.is/jRX5h

The first of many

June 20, 2016 - 18:46

Brandon Rogers

Is there such a thing as a geniue progressive Hillary Clinton?

June 20, 2016 - 18:48

Cooper Evans

idiots aiming for the wrong target

if they just killed hillary trump would be a non-factor

June 20, 2016 - 18:50

Jacob Edwards

...

June 20, 2016 - 18:54

Juan Robinson

There's little to indicate that people get more conservative as they get older.
Rather, older people just have a lot of the same positions, if a little less radical, that they did in their youth, so they seem more conservative in comparison, as the country has moved towards something more leftist in nature.

June 20, 2016 - 18:57

Ian Scott

The main problem I see coming out of the convention is that Trump wants to bring jobs back to the USA at the cost of suspending our environmental and labor laws. Hillary wants to keep our environmental and labor laws, but allow outsourcing of our work force so that companies can circumvent those laws. In the coming months you are going to hear the media blare that Trump's a racist and the next Hitler so that this argument will get drowned out.

Two ways I see this going is that Bernie is going to try to push his agenda as much as possible so the convention doesn't become a bed of roses of the party establishment. If he does lose he might go into advocating for local elections so more Democrates can get elected to the Senate and the House. But I don't see this as an option as there are a lot of local democrates like my own who are as corrupt as shit, which is why I supported Bernie in the first place because I KNEW he wasn't corrupt as shit.

But at his heart, Bernie is not a Democrate, so I don't see him cowtowing so easily. I believe a coup would be to endorse third party candidates that are on the planet, or get the door to open for third party candidates to debate in the presidential elections. Expect to the established parties to push against this with all their might despite their candidates being the most unpopular in history.

June 20, 2016 - 18:57

Parker Nguyen

No, thanks for posting

Part of me wants a Trump Presidency only because right now, the bizarre pure ideology coagulating around him is still heavily tied to the persona of Trump, and a failed Trump presidency could kill it in the cradle before it becomes anything more dangerous.

Of course at the same time it could just spur its growth, considering how low the bar is set for him.

June 20, 2016 - 19:00

Brody Jackson

I truly can't wait the day this edgelord becomes irrelevant. Hilarious how Holla Forumsyps are arguing that he's a degenerate because he's gay lol.

June 20, 2016 - 19:01

Gabriel Torres

Trump has unilateral access to the full thermonuclear arsenal United States as president. If he decided to issue a nuclear strike on a country that offended him, all he has to do is send out the command and it will occur regardless of military approval.

I'm not a Posadist, accelerationist, or anarcho-troglodyte, so I'm not interested in global thermonuclear war as caused by a "paper tiger".

June 20, 2016 - 20:33

Brandon Diaz

Link to this video?

June 20, 2016 - 20:45

Charles Morgan

>>>Holla Forums

June 20, 2016 - 20:48

Benjamin Carter

Sorry CTR shill, but fear mongering doesn't work around here. The idea that Trump would just nuke a country on a whim is ridiculous.

June 20, 2016 - 20:52

Hudson Torres

Amazing

June 20, 2016 - 20:53

Eli Bell

You're more paranoid and delusional than Holla Forums with its unhinged obsession with Jews. No, I'm not from CTR. I'm also not from reddit, or Tumblr, or 9GAG, or Canv.as, or GaiaOnline, or Newgrounds, or even eBaumsworld or UseNET (or are you too new for those bogeymen?). Sorry, but you're going to actually have to deal with the fact that I'm a member of this community who so happens to have opinions with which you might disagree rather than evading that uncomfortable fact with intellectually lazy strawmanning and scapegoating.

I'm not saying that it is likely that Trump will issue a nuclear strike, only that it is one of many legitimate concerns about Trump which form a valid basis for radical leftists to consider him a serious threat.

Like it or not, but Holla Forums is more depraved and degenerate than even the most idpol-addled radical leftist organization. Despite its rhetoric, the majority of Holla Forums seems more ideologically and behaviorally related to Holla Forums than to any genuine form of radical leftism, being more interested in combatting the phantom of idpol and "SJWs" while uncritically engaging in idpol than agitating, organizing, and educating the proletariat about radical leftist views. To treat this place as a bastion of "genuine leftism" is laughable.

June 20, 2016 - 21:17

Carter Thompson

If you're not from any of those places (which I don't believe for a second) than there's no time like the present.
>>>/killyourself/

June 20, 2016 - 21:21

Sebastian Lee

You are the apotheosis of neo-Holla Forums (or has it always been like this?). As usual, this board is following the same general direction that Holla Forums, Holla Forums, and basically every board takes after being in operation for many years: into an echo chamber of shitposting, circlejerking, tripcode avatarfagging, and an overall steep drop in post quality such that all oldfags and previous high quality posters are badgered out or leave out of disgust.

If anyone should end their life, it's you and as soon as possible. I can provide you with instructions on extremely cheap and painless suicide methods, as well, if you'd like.

June 20, 2016 - 21:28

Jaxon Anderson

Would you have a recommendation of somewhere to look were you looking for a higher level of discussion than here?

June 20, 2016 - 21:35

Julian Roberts

It's pretty uncontrovertial that most vote rightist as they age:
nytimes.com/interactive/2014/07/08/upshot/how-the-year-you-were-born-influences-your-politics.html?_r=1&abt=0002&abg=1

But even though I see no reason not to think this represents actual issue-by-issue opinions changing, if (regardless of actual positions) they ultimately end up voting for rightist parties, isn't the effect the same either way? Especially since most of these dilettante youth leftists care more about brainless social issues than important economic ones, whereas rightist politicians have been shilling the same porky economic policies unchanged.

At the leadership and permanent staff level, as an organized movement with meaningful sway in schools, the press, government, political parties, nonprofits, and corporate HR departments? They are, they're all indistinguishable.

Show me one single significant "feminist" organization whose official doctrine and public statements in the last few decades aren't filled with unapologetic wall-to-wall examples of what would be called "hate speech" if anyone but them said it.

Holla Forums has repeatedly demonstrated its commitment to values such as free speech, the content of speech over its form or source, universal rights that apply with absolute consistency, a keen interest in material reality, dispassionate intellectualism, and class consciousness. Free speech in particular is a value that I associate with leftism so strongly, I refuse to acknowledge anything against free speech as genuinely leftist.

None of that can be said for any other leftist community, as a whole, I've visited.

Even so, I'll at least admit the /lit/ bias of the board has decreased noticeably over the last year in favor of more rhetorical bantz.

June 20, 2016 - 21:48

Logan Flores

Truly is a meme candidate

June 20, 2016 - 21:49

Daniel Robinson

The Alt-Right tears will be more delicious when the delegates turn on his ass in Cleveland

June 20, 2016 - 21:52

Blake Davis

Unfortunately no. There is no consistent refuge for the radical left anymore. There is the occasional quality post here, but they are becoming rarer and rarer to a point that even reddit has a higher frequency of quality posts. I am not familiar with the discussion quality on RevLeft, but I am considering going there (and perhaps even reddit) as a final attempt at finding quality discussion from a radical leftist perspective on the Internet. I would go to the darkweb (*.onion, I2P, etc.) if there was a serious radical leftist presence there, but it appears to be a wasteland of defunct chans and forums there, even worse than up here in the clearnet.

From what I'm seeing, though, it appears that nowhere is good for quality radical leftist discussion on the Internet these days. The only places where I ever find consistently good discourse are in the archives of RevLeft, reddit, and obscure discussion boards that are now defunct. Perhaps here on Holla Forums, too, if it had archived its posts from years ago.

The only reason I still come here is because this board is still marginally tolerable, though it's getting to such low quality that even reddit is comparable and I often leave each session with disgust toward the community and hatred for those who purport to be my comrades. At this point, I'm just trying to ride whichever wave is highest in this race to the bottom. Right now, it's Holla Forums. In a year, it may be another board or site. No matter where I go, though, this withering of radical leftist presence online is a depressing site to behold.

Provide an example of one that does satisfy that criteria.

It's surely a demonstration in free speech to shame, bully, and harass those who don't toe the politically correct ideological line of this board, right? Holla Forums exercises its free speech on a regular basis by shouting down dissent and collectively badgering members of the community, both new and old, out and off the board. Your impassioned rhetoric about Holla Forums's commitment to freezing peaches is as empty as Holla Forums's when your actions as a community are antithetical to those values your purport to represent. Just because you don't outright ban dissidents like some subreddits allegedly do (though the board moderators are beginning to do that as well), this board has no problem substituting that with collective shaming and peer pressure tactics that ensure a rigid spectrum of acceptable opinion and a marginalized minority that can always be used as a scapegoat when board quality inevitably plummets as a result.

June 20, 2016 - 22:03

Brayden Hill

They couldn't possibly be that conceited

June 20, 2016 - 22:04

Sebastian Martin

youtu.be/O2QJvc_SxFQ

Not enough hats tbqh

June 20, 2016 - 22:04

Colton Johnson

They don't have to be. They just have to be that out of touch, which they clearly are since Trump totally blindsided them even though his campaign did nothing but make steady gains for several months.

June 20, 2016 - 22:12

Jeremiah Young

thats not how burden of proof works you fucking moron

June 20, 2016 - 22:38

Jonathan White

I give up

June 20, 2016 - 23:24

Blake Robinson

Trump is a mess

June 20, 2016 - 23:42

Leo Perez

Using elitism against a populaist candidate will work.

Somehow.

June 21, 2016 - 00:52

Nathaniel Wilson

c'mon man

June 21, 2016 - 00:59

Josiah Price

I mean I get the idea, Trump's persona is that he's a great, rich businessman and if you shatter that you might end up turning supporters. Problem is that they don't care if he lies so long as he still says things they like.

June 21, 2016 - 01:00

Eli Adams

Oh please, a bunch of delegates can't stand trump and even Paul Ryan is saying that the delegates can switch to any candidate they want. I won't doubt that It'll be a political coup in Cleveland. Possibly a worst Riots than in Philly.

June 21, 2016 - 01:55

Nathaniel Scott

You can't seriously believe anything this conman says, can you?

This is already happening, user. See Bernie's latest big speech.

We all sure hope he won't. He doesn't seem to be, so far.

June 21, 2016 - 03:05

Leo Hughes

This is true.

June 21, 2016 - 03:08

Jaxson Lewis

He's right, you should fuck off back to whatever idiot nest you came from.

June 21, 2016 - 04:25

Joseph Bennett

youtube.com/watch?v=GZ9uzpHJ0yg

June 21, 2016 - 05:03

Brandon Peterson

...

June 21, 2016 - 05:05

Matthew Richardson

#BERNIEORBULLETS

June 21, 2016 - 05:11

Julian Miller

reddit.com/r/media_criticism/comments/4p1hcp/david_brock_lord_of_the_shills/

I agree. It's a quality post/overview of this scumbag. Makes sense he thrives in a capitalist society and politics in general.

June 21, 2016 - 05:32

Jason Gonzalez

Are you the "patriarchy is real in the West but I refuse to tell you how" ancom?

June 21, 2016 - 06:01

Jordan Brooks

...

June 21, 2016 - 07:16

Sebastian Cook

Anyone else seeing this Clinton speech? Makes me feel like I'm living in a dystopia.

My belief in the conspiracy theory Trump and Clinton are colluding to get her elected has deepened. Extremely unlikely, but what if that's why the DNC isn't shitting its pants they're protecting and about to nominate one of the most unlikable politicians in recent decades? fucked up if true

June 21, 2016 - 09:51

Justin Sanchez

So, do we all agree that this election cycle was a textbook example of false consciousness?

June 21, 2016 - 10:05

Hunter Thomas

youtube.com/user/YouTube

June 21, 2016 - 10:08

Matthew Ross

Good ol idpol.

June 21, 2016 - 10:22

Elijah Ward

Are they still talking about Orlando? That was like a week ago

June 21, 2016 - 10:27

Jaxon Miller

>>>Holla Forums

June 21, 2016 - 10:28

Hudson Barnes

Trump is shit. Clinton is shit. Although, I think Hillary deserves an award because I think she's actually more corrupt than Trump.

The bizarre thing is that I think I'm going to end up voting for Trump… Because I know all the media and every single organization in society is going to turn against him and spend every moment of every day trying to disempower and destroy him. If I vote Hillary, the media is going to do everything they can to hide anything nasty she does and spin every story about her to be positive. If Hillary gets elected she's going to use the old Clinton connections for max corruption output, and it's going to be a champagne party for porky. As for Trump, he's going to have a hard time getting the light bulb in his bathroom changed.

June 21, 2016 - 10:28

Chase Perry

shoo shill shoo

June 21, 2016 - 10:30

Angel Gonzalez

You seem to be confusing leftypol for somewhere else. Idpol shills are routinely criticized here.

June 21, 2016 - 10:31

Gavin Gonzalez

Just vote for Jill Stein, you dumb shit; unless you live in a swing state and really want that Trump presidency. The Green Party officially added anti-capitalism to their platform. Now we just need to get them to 5% of the popular vote and they'll get federal funding to grow.

Reform until revolution is possible. Spread class consciousness at every opportunity.

June 21, 2016 - 10:33

Dominic Scott

Yes, voting in the queen of the TPP is going to help things.

June 21, 2016 - 10:34

Bentley King

Identity politics distracts from class consciousness. Celebrating identity is also enabling more narcissism. Also this reeks of whataboutism.
>>>/tumblr/

This is literally the only good thing about Trump. I really don't give a shit about much else.

June 21, 2016 - 10:41

Ian Rivera

You know there are more than two candidates, right? I'm just as apt to call Hillary pushers shills.

June 21, 2016 - 10:50

Jonathan Myers

Only those two can actually win. The game is rigged; the poor saps like me just choose between turd sandwiches.

June 21, 2016 - 10:56

Levi James

See

You know the game is rigged so stop playing it.

June 21, 2016 - 10:58

Michael Taylor

Be nice if platitudes had political power. I'd still rather vote for the ineffective blowing hot air turd sandwich over the highly effective global corporatist turd sandwich… Or the green party if it looks like my vote isn't going to matter. Well, after I do more research on the green party.

June 21, 2016 - 11:14

Kayden Allen

Wikileaks sure is taking their sweet time.

June 21, 2016 - 11:20

Nicholas Walker

Guccifer2 just released a new batch of files from the DNC

linkis.com/wordpress.com/3SULp

June 21, 2016 - 11:29

Camden Rodriguez

Anything good in the new files?

June 21, 2016 - 11:38

Ethan Clark

archive.is/VsuHs

June 21, 2016 - 12:17

Jaxson Gutierrez

see what?

June 21, 2016 - 12:18

Ayden Bailey

That image, displayed prominently in the sidebar

June 21, 2016 - 12:20

Asher Williams

The DNC extensively researched Clinton's ethical issues, so that they could come up with defenses. And when I say extensively, I mean hundreds of pages detailing her screwups, lies, conflicts of interest, foreign contributions, etc. For example:

—

washingtonexaminer.com/hacker-releases-clinton-foundation-documents/article/2594452?custom_click=rss

archive.is/neEkz

June 21, 2016 - 12:54

David Adams

Aren't there two keys that are needed to initialise? You're just making shit up now.

June 21, 2016 - 13:06

Nathaniel Jackson

...

June 21, 2016 - 13:09

Sebastian Morales

MADE HER A BETTER CANIDATE

June 21, 2016 - 13:22

Matthew Long

...

June 21, 2016 - 13:23

Gavin Scott

hello Holla Forums, not here to debate, just curious.

is there a general board consensus about Bernie? it seems like most of you are more disappointed in him than for him or against him.

do you mostly feel that you're too radical to have an political outlet in the USA? do you believe that you have any realistic goals/dreams that you think can come about during our lifetimes?

June 21, 2016 - 13:33

Chase Stewart

This same shit happened in 2000 & 2004.

June 21, 2016 - 13:33

Ryder Young

There's just a bunch of Trump trolls in the thread atm.

June 21, 2016 - 13:35

Nolan Fisher

These people are the worse

June 21, 2016 - 13:36

Evan Turner

He won't build socialism but he's worth supporting at this current time

June 21, 2016 - 13:37

Ian Hernandez

so are leftypolites for Bernie? are his policies ideal, or just a step in the right direction?

June 21, 2016 - 13:38

Hudson Collins

No. He sucks. Any leftist should be cautious around him.

June 21, 2016 - 13:39

Sebastian Walker

Reminds me of that Simpsons joke.

June 21, 2016 - 13:40

Brody Garcia

For most of us, he is. Out of all running, he is hands down the best. The cleanest & most honest. Has the best policies.

Go on..

June 21, 2016 - 13:51

Juan Harris

Jill Stein

June 21, 2016 - 14:01

Isaac Allen

The latter.

June 21, 2016 - 14:14

Aaron Perez

UNCOUNTED - The Story of the California Election (40 minutes)
youtube.com/watch?v=eB3SWBDYung

tl;dw:
america is too retarded for democracy while lecturing other nations, what a laugh

he's talking about this one:
youtube.com/watch?v=IuK3qpySn2U

June 21, 2016 - 14:44

Caleb Hernandez

She'll probably get my vote if Bernie drops out.

Would be awesome if he ran on their ticket. But to not throw away my vote, I'll likely vote green if he drops out.

June 21, 2016 - 14:47

Colton Jackson

twitter.com/webconnoisseur/status/745327948647927809

wew laddo

June 21, 2016 - 14:55

Brody Hernandez

Thanks user. I feel sad to laugh about it.

June 21, 2016 - 15:05

Lincoln Ortiz

RIP subreddit for Sanders.

reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4p59mq/remember_when_hill_said_its_what_they_offered_in/

Removed form front page by mods. Shills running rampant. It's downright unbearable lately. It used to be a great hub for Sanders campaign info.

June 21, 2016 - 15:42

Mason Gonzalez

Probably because it should be in the megathread? There's other leak shit on the front page.

June 21, 2016 - 15:58

Cameron White

So it can be buried? I rarely open megathreads.

June 21, 2016 - 16:03

Gabriel Robinson

Well that's your problem, isn't it?

June 21, 2016 - 16:08

Jeremiah Ramirez

Lmao. What? You think you betta than me?

Get outta heya

June 21, 2016 - 16:14

Juan Hughes

It's the same thing r/politics did with the email/server scandal. Kept it in a megathread to quash good discussion.

Not to mention mods went on a banning and deleting spree. Half the thread was deleted comments.

June 21, 2016 - 16:18

Leo Reyes

I like how Porky's not able to hide it anymore

Pretty much everyone is clued into the idea that the entire superstructure is designed to inaugurate Clinton, class consciousness is up. Even the normies are getting the idea that capitalism has to go

June 21, 2016 - 16:32

Christian Edwards

That's his takeaway from that? What a fucking dipshit.

June 21, 2016 - 17:20

Thomas Watson

Megathreads are for burying information and stealth-deletion of conversations

It's everyone's problem you idiot

June 21, 2016 - 17:24

Juan Gonzalez

lol, I skimmed this and thought it was people complaining about the Holla Forums american elections thread.

But in any case, you can definitely make a separate thread for big news like the guccifer hack. I think there are a couple up.

June 21, 2016 - 17:52

Aiden Torres

Mr Dolan if you read my resume you will see that I am a master of data management with intimate knowledge of the python mainframe

June 21, 2016 - 17:55

John Robinson

It isn't my fault you're too lazy/stupid to scroll through a thread.

June 21, 2016 - 19:16

Tyler Allen

What's with the coat hanger?

June 21, 2016 - 19:32

Owen Peterson

is the conwoman any better?

June 21, 2016 - 19:35

Gabriel Evans

They're both shit.

June 21, 2016 - 19:38

Joshua Price

I guess the implication is he stole Bernie's clothes?

I honestly don't get what the picture is supposed to imply

June 21, 2016 - 19:46

Zachary Martinez

youtube.com/watch?v=Bb2GzMstrMk

June 21, 2016 - 20:26

Ayden Hughes

Secretary Clinton is a fucking bitch

June 22, 2016 - 00:12

Tyler Nelson

nytimes.com/2016/05/29/opinion/sunday/the-nazi-tweets-of-trump-god-emperor.html
Oy vey!

June 22, 2016 - 00:42

Connor Cruz

Do they realize that acknowledging the alt-right is what gets them more attention?

June 22, 2016 - 00:47

Tyler Baker

This is fucking beautiful.

June 22, 2016 - 00:49

Juan Smith

I wonder if the inability to recognize sarcasm today will ever get any better

June 22, 2016 - 01:23

Jack White

It's your fault you're a braindead fucker that should be dragged into the street and shot in the mouth.

June 22, 2016 - 01:27

Mason Allen

As of today, Hillary hasn't held a press conference in 200 days.

And no one in the media calls her out for this.

June 22, 2016 - 01:28

Brody Martin

...

June 22, 2016 - 01:31

Thomas Parker

...

June 22, 2016 - 01:31

Logan Perez

gas the rich class war now

June 22, 2016 - 01:49

Isaac Rogers

The thing is, they should be asking somebody about this, instead of just shaking their fists at "them intertube maymays". A journalist's job isn't to blog about inexplicable things that are part of their day, it's to check back with every source, ask experts about anything they don't understand, package it all together, and give their readers the resulting intelligence.

It's important because it isn't just journalists, it's the public, like the genuine stormniggers that trickle through Holla Forums, and the summer newbies that react to them. Normalfags need to understand that trolling means saying whatever the easiest thing to trigger a temper tantrum is and watching the outrage flow.

Too many people, especially influential ones, taking trolls seriously gives the false impression that mass support exists somewhere for a contradictory stew of inflammatory views, when it's simply people fed up with tightassed PC (or plain bored and looking for laughs) spewing anything they can think of to piss off the thin-skinned.

Case in point

June 22, 2016 - 02:47

Luis Brooks

No you are not. You spend all your time bitching that leftypol won't accept your idpol nonsense. Didn't say you were leaving in that stupid feminist thread? Do you get off on abuse or something? Fuck off.

June 22, 2016 - 03:18

Joseph Nelson

seconding this

also lose the flag kiddo

June 22, 2016 - 05:09

Blake Howard

...

June 22, 2016 - 08:49

Dylan Williams

youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=xUW2-MUonbo#t=2123

WHERE WERE YOU WHEN TRUMP WENT FULL ANTI-CAPITALIST

PORKY BTFO

June 22, 2016 - 08:53

Adrian Miller

...

June 22, 2016 - 08:54

Samuel Lopez

Yh,
I'm not listening to that.
Give me cliff notes.

June 22, 2016 - 08:59

Brody Nguyen

twitter.com/JonathanDBrown/status/745260794061815808

June 22, 2016 - 09:08

Tyler Powell

I see the factories moving over seas to mexico? he actually sees that?

June 22, 2016 - 09:25

Gavin Myers

They are literally transporting the buildings by plane.

June 22, 2016 - 09:32

Julian Scott

Gee, I'm sure this businessman noted for siphoning the funds out of everything he's put his name on until it goes bankrupt is a total anti-capitalist and is not just thirsty for retards who think Bernie lost because "le voting system was rigged ;_;"

June 22, 2016 - 09:51

Ryan Jackson

Can you tell David Brock to fuck off, from me?

June 22, 2016 - 09:58

Ian Morales

Hillary cucks leave

June 22, 2016 - 10:02

Luis Butler

Nigga, quit fucking crying. Bernie lost because Jeff Weaver was a shit campaign manager. Stop believing in conspiritard shit.

June 22, 2016 - 10:03

Joseph Sullivan

Fuck off you stupid faggot

June 22, 2016 - 10:06

Kayden Murphy

...

June 22, 2016 - 10:20

Adrian Reed

Exit polls and investigative journalist say otherwise

June 22, 2016 - 10:23

Ryan Allen

okay mr cool dude you sure convinced me

June 22, 2016 - 10:27

Samuel Hill

California’s lengthy vote count stokes theories that Sanders actually won the primary

washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/06/22/californias-lengthy-vote-count-stokes-theories-that-sanders-actually-won-the-primary/

June 22, 2016 - 10:41

Oliver Martinez

youtube.com/watch?v=eB3SWBDYung

June 22, 2016 - 10:49

Tyler Bennett

...

June 22, 2016 - 11:32

Ayden Wilson

NOTHING TO SEE HERE GOOD PEOPLE OF AMERICA JUST ANOTHER CRAZY JFK CONSPIRACY THEORIST NEVERMIND THE MATH BEHIND HIS CLAIMS OR DEGREES IN STATISTICS IT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE HE'S A CONSPIRACY THEORIST

June 22, 2016 - 11:39

Dylan Phillips

there's nothing wrong with being a conspiracy theorists

because sometimes there really is a conspiracy

June 22, 2016 - 11:43

Sebastian Flores

The Rio Grande sea

June 22, 2016 - 11:56

Jonathan Richardson

...

June 22, 2016 - 11:57

Landon Ramirez

...

June 22, 2016 - 12:03

Gabriel Bailey

How many super delegates are there? Are you seriously suggesting Hillary's 591 superdelegates will drop Hillary to vote for Bernie? Because that's the only way that Bernie could reach 2382

June 22, 2016 - 12:05

Hudson Wilson

yes

June 22, 2016 - 12:07

Adam Brown

Boy. I sure remember someone complaining that superdelegates were an infringement of the will of the people. I don't remember where I got that, though

June 22, 2016 - 12:10

Robert Howard

twitter.com/cspan/status/745670191229476864

June 22, 2016 - 12:12

Joseph Torres

lots of ppl think it is

June 22, 2016 - 12:17

Chase Green

You know what else is an infringement of the will of the people? Wide spread election fraud paid for by the same corporate donors that sponsor the democratic party's chosen lizard queen . Bernie realizes the hypocrisy here, and frankly if this it what it takes to get him elected I don't give a shit, and you shouldn't either. Bernie won this election . All he;s doing is convincing the corrupt greedy fucks that rigged it to give him the win he rightly deserves.

June 22, 2016 - 12:19

Jace Bell

uggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh shuttup ur frekkin conspiratard berniebraghhh!!!!!!!!!!!! hah gotem

June 22, 2016 - 12:20

Austin Cruz

I hope a mob of violent radical islamist gays grab her during a speech and publicly behead her to prevent a female presidency. I;d cheer with glee on that day.

June 22, 2016 - 12:23

Landon Gonzalez

...

June 22, 2016 - 12:25

Lincoln Kelly

t. enoughsandersspam

June 22, 2016 - 12:27

Samuel Ortiz

Not spamming. I genuinely hope she dies in some freak accident, heart attack or public beheading. I'd cum buckets seeing how the media try to spin it and the ensuing shit circus. I don't hate the reptillian bitch, just what she represents. Her death would not solve the problem, but perhaps it'd be more a symbolic gesture to her masters.

June 22, 2016 - 12:33

Jordan Flores

Where were you when Trump retards shit up the thread over the past week?
Your candidate is shit, the same as Hillary. Two sides of the same corporate coin.

>>>Holla Forums & see webm

I agree. That's what he was saying, too.

Blood is in the water with Hillary because this server scandal is getting out of control. We all just get to sit back & watch.

CTR or Holla Forumsyp go. This is politics. The system is fucked up, but many states are getting rid of supers as we speak, which is great. But if Hillary can use supers atm, so can Bernie.

Car accident, trampled by horses. Maybe something entertaining like you mention would be more fun.

June 22, 2016 - 12:38

James Foster

When's that convention in Philly again?

June 22, 2016 - 12:44

Brandon Edwards

remember when all those kids were showing up on the boarder?

youtube.com/watch?v=KB_6t3DYp5g

June 22, 2016 - 12:48

Austin Myers

a libertarian paradise

June 22, 2016 - 12:56

Mason Peterson

A lot of information about corruption all in one place

facebook.com/groups/berniesandersactivists/permalink/1721502451454741/

June 22, 2016 - 13:03

Sebastian Perez

...

June 22, 2016 - 13:22

Easton Peterson

Is this the fuckhead who started the Sanders-supporters-throwing-chairs shit?

June 22, 2016 - 13:28

Isaiah Turner

...

June 22, 2016 - 13:31

Blake Myers

yup

June 22, 2016 - 13:31

Samuel Lewis

...

June 22, 2016 - 13:40

Landon Gray

Thanks to the user posting Bernie & Cali updates.

June 22, 2016 - 13:47

Brandon Hill

checked

June 22, 2016 - 13:55

Landon Peterson

Right. But Democrats apparently don't care. You're all just mad that people aren't voting for your candidate

You do realize why superdelegates exist? Well it's by law that you must have 50% of the delegates in order to be represented by the party. You need a majority, not a plurality. So when it becomes time to vote for a representative, without superdelegates, people can go up to the 100th ballot and eventually pick someone who didn't even run. In order to smooth it out, the superdelegates are supposed to vote for the winner, making sure the one with a reasonable plurality is elected. Clinton won the popular vote by 3.7 million, the superdelegates voted for her. The superdelegates did their job.

The Republicans don't have one because they don't have proportional. They have a lot of states that are winner take all and winner take by congressional district. Thus giving the candidate with a reasonable plurality votes the chance of getting a majority of delegates.

Even under GOP rules, Bernie would be btfo multiple times harder.

And you're supporting the idea of having a candidate with no plurality of votes become the party nominee?

Isn't that an infringement of the people's choice?

If you suspect election fraud, be sure to report it to the FEC. Otherwise fuckoff

June 22, 2016 - 14:00

Dominic Edwards

I'm 8 years old and I hugged Bernie Sanders
youtube.com/watch?v=ZBEflPFtJVk

June 22, 2016 - 14:01

Jackson Ross

NBC Poll™: Who Are You Voting For?

nbcpolitics.org/nbc-poll-who-are-you-voting-for/

June 22, 2016 - 14:04

Cameron Flores

...

June 22, 2016 - 14:04

Christopher Rivera

Thangs

June 22, 2016 - 14:06

Christopher Lee

What's that?

June 22, 2016 - 14:08

Gabriel Reed

lolno The reason the superdelegates exist is to prevent a candidate like George McGovern from winning the nomination but tanking in the general election again. There is no reason they couldn't simply put in the bylaws that whoever gets the plurality wins the nomination. The superdelegates (AKA Unpledged Delegates) should not be coming out before the national convention and pledging their support to a candidate before the primaries are finished. They're doing anything but their intended purpose with this bullshit, and in fact if they were doing their fucking job as it was originally intended they would side with Sanders at the convention before all the polls establish that he is a uncontestably more electable candidate than Clinton at this point.

June 22, 2016 - 14:09

Logan Howard

And one more point to make:

Many state Democratic parties have a rule right in their bylaws stating that no presidential candidate shall have endorsement of anyone in elected positions until the caucus/primaries and state conventions are over. These fuckers violated the bylaws in my own state and they still haven't paid the price for it.

June 22, 2016 - 14:12

Carter Moore

dude lost weight?

June 22, 2016 - 14:12

Parker Ortiz

Apparently some do if supers are starting to jump ship.

Why do you even mean? We're taking about superdelegates, they vote for who they want regardless of what we want.

June 22, 2016 - 14:13

David Torres

...

June 22, 2016 - 14:14

Aaron Richardson

A plurality could mean such:
Candidate A gets 34%, Candidate B gets 33%, and candidate C gets 33%.

However, by current DNC (minus superdelegate) rules, nobody would get the nomination on the first ballot. There would have to be multiple ballots, therefore increasing the likelihood the person with 0.00% of the vote gets the nomination. Superdelegates increase the liklihood that Candidate A gets the nomination because he won the plurality.

A Majority would be

Candidate A gets 51%, Candidate B gets 25%, Candidate C gets 24%. In both the GOP and DNC, Candidate A would get the nomination.

That's like, your opinion man. They're still voting for the one with the plurality so they're doing their role.

13 out of 600?
The people didn't vote for Bernie though. I know it's tough for you to hear.

The superdelegates have said from the beginning they'll support the candidate with the plurality of votes. You just want to fix the election so your candidate with 3.7 million less votes wins.

June 22, 2016 - 14:17

Camden Foster

Song sauce?

June 22, 2016 - 14:27

Adam Howard

It's not an opinion. It's a fucking fact that George McGovern's general election failure is why "superdelegates" were invented, and it's a fucking fact that many states have sections of their bylaws explicitly stating that Unpledged Delegates are supposed to keep their fucking mouths shut until the primaries are finished.

June 22, 2016 - 14:28

Jeremiah Young

house sit in for gun control

c-span.org/video/?411624-1/watch-democrats-continue-house-sitin-gun-violence&live

June 22, 2016 - 14:30

Parker Ramirez

Kind of hard to know which candidate is going to have the plurality of votes 6 months before any states even hold their primaries. But somehow, some 300-some superdelegates knew exactly that last summer.

June 22, 2016 - 14:31

Cameron Fisher

Just recently. And it could be a sign of a larger trend.. This server shit is building & it's pretty fun to watch. How can Hillary be trusted with the Presidency? These leaks & FBI investigation are hilarious to watch in highlighting her negligence.

Millions voted for Bernie + all the blatant rigging - See Cali - there's many more who did. And you're only counting democrat voters. You do understand dems don't represent America, right? Also, those supers didn't go with how the people voted, either. Many of their districts went to Sanders & they didn't switch. The ones who are switching are making a good choice for their political careers. Hillary is becoming more & more toxic to publicly support, daily.

Again, cry me a river. Your CTR talking points won't fool anyone here. :^) You're wasting your time. I'm sure you're the same one from earlier in the thread, too.

June 22, 2016 - 14:32

John Evans

$0.50 have been deposited into your account.

June 22, 2016 - 14:33

Henry Murphy

I tracked it down
youtube.com/watch?v=4om1rQKPijI
"Ievan polka"

June 22, 2016 - 14:37

Gabriel Clark

...

June 22, 2016 - 14:38

Robert Hill

If you're so sure the election was rigged, report it to the correct authorities

BernVictims out on full force today. Upset all of your campaign donations are being funneled into the DNC's wallets?

June 22, 2016 - 14:40

Ryan Ward

Do they pay you well?

June 22, 2016 - 14:44

Ryder Gomez

Do you know where you are? Lmao. Where did you come from?

June 22, 2016 - 14:45

Xavier Ward

are you 12?

June 22, 2016 - 14:47

Austin Taylor

Hell. You BernVictims are so out of touch with reality that you don't realize your candidate is a failure, much less than honestly talk about the nomination

No, I don't support Sanders

The question that interests me is if you even have a job

June 22, 2016 - 14:54

Cameron Miller

...

June 22, 2016 - 14:55

Dominic Fisher

...

June 22, 2016 - 15:00

Julian Evans

/r/ess

June 22, 2016 - 15:00

Dylan Turner

hahah WOWOWOWO GOTEEM!M!!!!!!!! SIMPLYFUKKIN EPIC MY BRAHHHHSJKI III I YEAAAAASSS QUEEEENNN XDDDDDDD

June 22, 2016 - 15:01

Thomas Smith

"Truth is treason in the empire of lies" - George Orwell

June 22, 2016 - 15:07

Liam Reed

You're in your own reality, where you won't even acknowledge the existence of the FBI investigation your candidate is currently under & the multiple successful hacking attempts on her & the DNC's server. Hillary is toxic & equally porky as Trump.

June 22, 2016 - 15:11

Leo Lee

"If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." - George Orwell

June 22, 2016 - 15:13

Eli Jackson

Would that boot be the nomination of a candidate that has 3.7 million less votes than the frontrunner?

June 22, 2016 - 15:14

Lincoln Wood

*tips heartily*

June 22, 2016 - 15:15

Andrew Gonzalez

...

June 22, 2016 - 15:15

Camden Bailey

Sorry I invaded your safe space :DDDDD

June 22, 2016 - 15:17

Cameron Garcia

Fuck. Thought I quoted

June 22, 2016 - 15:18

Benjamin Martinez

Do we have an honest to god CTR shill here?

June 22, 2016 - 15:19

Jackson Anderson

..Truly ebin post, my man.

How about you tout your own candidate instead of downing another?

For sure. It's straight out of the handbook. No originality.

June 22, 2016 - 15:21

Daniel Davis

I guess this board is still in Denial mode

At least I'm not psychotic enough to think my candidate actually won

June 22, 2016 - 15:25

James Gonzalez

Jesus, man.

June 22, 2016 - 15:27

Jose King

Are you saying that there is no chance in hell that the DNC is fundementally corrupt organization?

June 22, 2016 - 15:27

Jacob Mitchell

If it is, report it to the correct authorities :DDDDDD

June 22, 2016 - 15:28

Thomas Howard

...

June 22, 2016 - 15:28

Josiah Jenkins

Seriously, it's time to stop posting.

June 22, 2016 - 15:30

William Torres

Why?

June 22, 2016 - 15:34

Jordan Sullivan

To make way for Her Highness. :^)

June 22, 2016 - 15:36

Ian Bell

Yes. Why is that a reason to tap out before it's over?

June 22, 2016 - 15:37

Luis Bell

...

June 22, 2016 - 15:39

Gavin Parker

And being under FBI criminal investigation for negligence & jeopardizing national security for "convenience" is also unacceptable for a Presidential candidate.

June 22, 2016 - 15:42

Ethan Thomas

Please tell me the merits of your candidate. I'm genuinely curious to know what they will do to further the goals of communism. You might even get me to switch side.

June 22, 2016 - 15:45

Brandon Ortiz

...

June 22, 2016 - 15:49

Julian Collins

Christ, this is painful.

The world would be better off without her.

June 22, 2016 - 15:55

Bentley Campbell

REMINDER

June 22, 2016 - 15:57

Nathaniel Reyes

Both parties are corporate parties that routinely override the will of the people. Not just democrats. Still, the image is correct.

June 22, 2016 - 15:59

Angel Martin

...

June 22, 2016 - 16:01

Isaac Sullivan

It's only ok when the US government/military does it, right?

You're the only one who's said anything about socialism.

June 22, 2016 - 16:07

Cameron Johnson

fucking kek

June 22, 2016 - 16:11

Hunter Phillips

it's amazing. she's literally hiding from voters.

June 22, 2016 - 16:13

Ethan Rodriguez

wow, looking at the posters who entered this thread, I wouldn't be surprised if they were literally a CTR team. no history, braindead Hillary talking points. I'm skeptical that they would post on an imageboard like this, but then again, why the fuck else would a Hillary supporter be here? crazy stuff.

June 22, 2016 - 16:19

Jace Mitchell

Yeah, it's too good to be true, in a very bad way. I had to just stop replying. It was becoming too autistic, even for me, lmao.

June 22, 2016 - 16:25

Jack Taylor

probably just one or two Holla Forumstards then.

June 22, 2016 - 16:26

Kevin Lopez

And people still say CTR dont real

June 22, 2016 - 16:27

Aaron Martin

What rule did they break that earned a ban?

Do you think you could stop scrubbing post history when you ban people at least? It's really annoying to lose entire discussions.

June 22, 2016 - 16:31

Asher Davis

Shitposting too hard

June 22, 2016 - 16:33

Easton Brown

Holla Forumslacks pretending to be "leftist" imo. if not that, then the extremely rare don't-be-a-shitposting-hillbot rule.

June 22, 2016 - 16:33

Nathan Peterson

I'm fine with it.

Nothing of value was lost.

June 22, 2016 - 16:35

James Morales

...

June 22, 2016 - 16:37

Lucas Morgan

I don't like the concept of torture chamberes and I especially don't like them when it comes to politics. Failure to engage and refute disinformation and wrongness is a death sentence. Personally, I think shills should be left alone to be named and shamed unless they're cluttering up an otherwise productive thread or discussion with spam.

June 22, 2016 - 16:41

Lucas Cooper

I agree, I'd prefer if posts weren't deleted. It's quite annoying to come in a thread and be unable to get what happened because half of the discussion is gone.

June 22, 2016 - 16:43

Leo Rivera

...

June 22, 2016 - 16:46

Hudson Cox

When half the dis is words or the same argument/ meme over and over again…

It's also our fault for answering.

June 22, 2016 - 16:46

Henry Long

They were shitposting only, not making any points.

This is exactly what happened. Some user was giving Bernie & super delegate updates for example, then it devolved into nothing but shitposting.

June 22, 2016 - 16:48

Leo Foster

I was just going to say this, too. I got sucked in; mainly because I was in such disbelief.

June 22, 2016 - 16:53

Austin Perry

Now watch as that poll is completely ignored.

June 22, 2016 - 16:59

Thomas Thompson

So, CTR's modus operandi?

June 22, 2016 - 17:00

Grayson Price

See, we were talking about something productive

Check out this pie

June 22, 2016 - 17:05

John Baker

Well it's obviously not scientific.

June 22, 2016 - 17:06

Noah Jenkins

I don't know if the poll even matters
I never believed shillary or dump had that much support, and burniebots have been told from the beginning that it was over.
I wanna see what happens at the convention.

June 22, 2016 - 17:13

Ian Barnes

nerd

June 22, 2016 - 17:13

Michael White

Thought about posting on Facebook looking to see if any of my friends wanted to join me in Philly for the convention. Bad idea?

June 22, 2016 - 17:13

Jaxon Lee

btw bernie nyc rally tomorrow

June 22, 2016 - 17:18

Jose Scott

CTR? Also what juicy drama did I miss?

June 22, 2016 - 17:21

Xavier Lee

control correct the record

June 22, 2016 - 17:22

Isaac Garcia

no

June 22, 2016 - 17:22

Sebastian Baker

Why not? I wish like Hell I was in the US right now, I'd be going.

June 22, 2016 - 17:25

Jace Clark

I was just concerned because it's NSAbook and all

June 22, 2016 - 17:25

Henry Brooks

Coming here unguarded probably does more damage to your official record than publicly going to a Bernie rally would.

June 22, 2016 - 17:29

Grayson James

I'm more concerned about being an unintentional mole than my own personal record

June 22, 2016 - 17:31

Benjamin Robinson

lol someone should write a book on cowardice and real political change

June 22, 2016 - 17:39

Ethan Anderson

why is it so easy to back a opportunist thug like trump but everyone's afraid to fight for a decent life?

June 22, 2016 - 17:50

Dylan Edwards

hillary literally has teams of paid trolls working for her

June 22, 2016 - 17:54

Luke Gutierrez

Because one requires no revolution - it is comparatively really easy for fascism to take hold of a nation filled with right-wing anger.

June 22, 2016 - 17:57

Jose Kelly

ppl thought reagan and bush2 would be they're savior. they fucked over everyone

June 22, 2016 - 18:01

Adrian Cruz

...

June 22, 2016 - 18:01

Luke Peterson

republicans haven't produced a good president in over 55 years, maybe they wanna make it 100
republican policy hasn't changed much.
trump is gonna have to work with them

June 22, 2016 - 18:03

Xavier Gray

trump is gonna have to give them some things
and it seems like everything they want screws the working class

June 22, 2016 - 18:08

Jonathan Gonzalez

thestar.com/opinion/editorialopinion/2011/08/12/apocalyptic_crisis_budgeting.html

June 22, 2016 - 18:16

Eli Smith

It's incredible how many people actually think the Republican party is fiscally conservative.

June 22, 2016 - 18:19

Justin Foster

usuncut.com/class-war/10-corporate-welfare-programs-that-will-make-your-blood-boil/

June 22, 2016 - 18:22

Andrew Powell

subsidytracker.goodjobsfirst.org/prog.php?parent=trump-organization

he took more in 1 subsidy then the majority of ppl that vote for him will ever make.

June 22, 2016 - 18:29

Owen Thompson

This. It's pretty gay.

June 22, 2016 - 18:29

Landon Sullivan

...

June 22, 2016 - 18:30

Oliver Wright

Can you put the whole thing in a pdf?

June 22, 2016 - 18:35

Bentley King

gay

June 22, 2016 - 18:37

Nathan Ross

youtube.com/watch?v=acLW1vFO-2Q

June 22, 2016 - 18:39

Samuel Parker

KYS

June 22, 2016 - 18:49

Luke Hughes

...

June 22, 2016 - 19:03

Adrian King

Anyone else paying attention to the Kabuki Theatre going on in the house right now? Apparently they're trying to repeal the fiduciary rule in the midst of this. Lol.

June 22, 2016 - 19:13

David Bell

Is this absolute madman about to be fired by the Clinton News Network?

June 22, 2016 - 19:43

Jaxson Roberts

If only they could muster up this sort of faux outrage in fighting tax cut extensions or repealing the Patriot Act or stopping bills that cripple the internet from passing.

June 22, 2016 - 20:03

Christian Gomez

Then again they do tend to look on anti-Trump protestors with disdain, possibly only because Empress Hillary I came out against them. It's almost hilarious how similar the mindset is between the Trump supporter and the Clinton supporter

Jesus user, are you Stephen King? Because that post was pretty spooky

June 22, 2016 - 20:14

Ryan Bell

thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/284508-texas-poll-1-3-unsure-dont-support-clinton-or-trump

The easiest democratic candidate to beat since Dukakis and yet Trump I'd failing this badly at it.

June 22, 2016 - 20:50

Blake Cooper

Where exactly do you think you are?

Go move to Venezuela.

June 22, 2016 - 21:09

Ryan Ramirez

>sources: politico, thinkprogress, salon

I bolded the ones that are confirmed to be garbage tier """"journalism"""" sites, I'm not sure of think progress, but salon is just pure shit.

June 22, 2016 - 21:13

Jonathan Martin

all rich people deserve to burn tbqh

June 22, 2016 - 21:14

Dylan Torres

I wonder who could be behind this image

June 22, 2016 - 21:32

Lucas Carter

Shove that red block almost entirely over the line and now youve got it more or less.

June 22, 2016 - 21:32

Jose Sanders

fixed

June 22, 2016 - 21:36

Austin Bell

Anyone else watching the democrats have a sit in?

June 22, 2016 - 21:40

Brody King

Yeah, it should be shaped like a letter-L, with a only tiny sliver squeezed down the side. Rich people aren't inherently subhuman trash, but the capitalist system ensures most of them are. I have no problem with "super proletarians" like scientists, artists, and doctors, but they make up a tiny fraction of the rich, and a microscopic fraction of the ultra-rich.

All three of them are now infamous PC idpol clickbaiters, but does that really matter if they're just quoting him in decent context? Granted, that infographic is pretty worthless compared to if it just had the quotes in it with tinyurls to individual articles.

There should be a website dedicated entirely to mirroring idpol articles through anti-PC filters and auto-spamming any social media link for the original.

June 22, 2016 - 22:05

Gabriel Foster

What kind of fucking idiot tries to take a gun from a cop's holster? I bet he wouldn't have even known what to do with it if he actually had it in his hands. He was just trying to make a "gesture", the moron.

We need a Lee Harvey Oswald.

June 22, 2016 - 22:36

Aiden Torres

Yep. It's total nonsense. The bill they are sitting-in for has nothing to do with gun control too. It's a bill the expands the surveillance state viz. more FBI watchlists.

Also at one point they chanted "Shame" (Game of Thrones style) at Paul Ryan and it was one of the most bizarre moments in American politics that I've ever experienced.

June 22, 2016 - 23:06

Evan Torres

Here's the video.

Taking political cues from a fantasy show about dragons and ice zombies. Lord help us.

June 22, 2016 - 23:08

Leo Evans

unfortunatly that's the segement that is smartest and the most well funded to get themselves out of trouble. Laws are designed to catch the dump or the poor, never the rich.

Now wake me up when you figureout how to cure corruption.

June 22, 2016 - 23:09

Julian Smith

I fucking hate these people

June 22, 2016 - 23:18

Hudson Reed

I feel you bruh. Whatever happened to the intellectual statesman?

June 22, 2016 - 23:22

Tyler Martinez

Clinton delegate hits Bernie delegate with cane in New York.
usuncut.com/resistance/bernie-sanders-delegate-assaulted/

June 23, 2016 - 05:37

Cooper Cruz

twitter.com/People4Bernie/status/745373524479643649/photo/1

wew, how long will they keep getting away with this shit?

June 23, 2016 - 06:34

Noah Johnson

B E R N I E B R O S

June 23, 2016 - 06:40

Brody King

Video of it. You can't see it, but you can hear the whack, lmao. The camera lady saying "ohhh" afterwards is childish. But he did assault her. People get thrown into jail for much less, nowadays.
youtu.be/inurJ0ebCNA

Happens at 4:35

June 23, 2016 - 06:43

Ian Ortiz

...

June 23, 2016 - 06:44

Jack Nguyen

...

June 23, 2016 - 06:47

Jason Taylor

I want to say it's a callback to Occupy where they "shamed!" cops and porkies since the Dems have been trying to co-opt that progressive bloc lately, but I wouldn't be surprised if it came from a popular tv show either

June 23, 2016 - 06:53

Aiden Wilson

I'd backhand that old man.

June 23, 2016 - 06:56

Gavin Hernandez

Seriously, though. I remember seeing some Asian parliament going apeshit years back. Chairs being thrown, people punching each other. But I actually saw that as kind of a good thing. Here in our Congress it's just lip-service - no passion. If only our Congress cared enough to get passionate & throw a chair every once in a while.

The dude who hit her was some rich old dude though. And he wasn't doing it for political reasons, just dick reasons.

All of these state convention stories should be a good example of how the Philly national convention will be.

Here's another link to people discussing it.
reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4pd4on/clinton_supporter_assaults_bernie_sanders/

Here's the only two stories so far I've found(from bigger news outlets). Both are full of holes & of course paint Sanders supporters in a negative light.
nypost.com/2016/06/22/sanders-backers-lose-their-cool-at-democratic-party-meeting/

rawstory.com/2016/06/sanders-supporters-push-to-block-andrew-cuomo-as-dnc-delegate-after-chaotic-meeting/
"Which she says" lmao. It's clearly a cane smack.

June 23, 2016 - 07:00

Henry Hernandez

...

June 23, 2016 - 07:02

Jaxson Perez

...

June 23, 2016 - 07:05

Asher Reyes

Probably the Taiwanese parliament. Shit gets pretty heated.

youtube.com/watch?v=COPa3cca08k

Yeah, me too to a certain extent. In the anglophone west democratic politics is portrayed as this sterile, intellectual board-meeting sort of endeavor and anything that breaches this artificial decorum is portrayed as a tragic blow to the high minded ideals of democracy. In other parliaments someone getting a chair thrown at them is just another Tuesday.

Obviously democracy shouldn't be conducted like a cage match but sometimes shit gets real and real humans scream and throw shit, including punches, sometimes. If you don't ever see that in your government then it tells me that it's all a fucking charade.

June 23, 2016 - 07:06

Adrian Watson

The shills are in the Sanders subreddit doing it, too.

Yes, I mark them for future reference. Came in handy this time.

June 23, 2016 - 07:07

Luis Ortiz

It's disgusting that you can't point out obvious shill behavior on reddit, especially in /r/politics. You even insinuate that an account registered right after the primaries started and whose entire post history is nothing but Clinton cheerleading for 18 hour stretches at a time might in fact be someone with an agenda and you get banned.

It's only slightly more disgusting that "etiquette and politeness" is the gag they use to get away with it, too.

June 23, 2016 - 07:12

Jacob Jackson

I want these people to burn.

June 23, 2016 - 07:18

Jonathan Stewart

oh my god, no way

June 23, 2016 - 07:29

Austin Morgan

Yeah, I got banned form r/politics for a week for calling someone a shill. I haven't commented since. I'll read comments & articles, but that place is major shill territory.

June 23, 2016 - 07:33

Zachary Robinson

sweet post you meme loving fuck

June 23, 2016 - 07:37

Adrian Morgan

It never existed

Why are BillaryBros so violent? First Wendell Pierce now this.

June 23, 2016 - 08:49

Thomas Clark

politico.com/story/2016/06/poll-sanders-a-vp-draw-palin-not-so-much-224715

June 23, 2016 - 09:47

Ian Evans

bigstory.ap.org/article/7006105d422740f0b4b8675c90f9a154/emails-key-security-features-disabled-clintons-server

reddit.com/r/politics/comments/4pghnh/state_dept_scrambled_on_trouble_on_clintons_server/

June 23, 2016 - 09:57

Anthony Torres

The people who run America are less competent at IT than my grandad.

June 23, 2016 - 10:07

Aaron Anderson

So they sabotage the economy in order to make people lose their purchasing power, reducing the amount of sales the corporations get? And this is not supposed to crash the system? How? What the hell.

June 23, 2016 - 13:12

Lucas Morgan

The "too big to fail" paradigm. Their success is so vital to the stability of the economy that the government will do anything to maintain it. This is why, despite lolbert assumptions, the failure of a large corporate entity does not mean competition can fill in the gap.

June 23, 2016 - 13:17

Caleb Phillips

Don't forget the "trickle down" bs, too.

June 23, 2016 - 13:30

Isaiah Powell

Noam Chomsky: The Military Is Misunderstood

youtube.com/watch?v=VSJjlaggbK0

June 23, 2016 - 14:17

Thomas Ortiz

reckless would be a better description

June 23, 2016 - 14:41

Camden Anderson

or evil

June 23, 2016 - 14:41

William Ortiz

Or economically illiterate.

June 23, 2016 - 14:43

Brody Allen

if you get the chance, ask a republican if they know about this.
none have so far in 2 years on my twitter. None!

especially if they're bitching about how fiscally conservative they are

ppl around the world could lose their savings/pensions again.

June 23, 2016 - 14:54

Oliver Martinez

...

June 23, 2016 - 15:13

Dominic Harris

communism for the rich

free market for everyone else

June 23, 2016 - 15:21

Michael Wood

...

June 23, 2016 - 15:33

Juan Morris

...

June 23, 2016 - 15:34

Lucas Flores

Good stuff, user.

June 23, 2016 - 15:47

Brandon Gonzalez

do you like hand jobs?

June 23, 2016 - 16:06

Nathaniel Howard

m.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4pa71m/major_cali_update/?utm_source=mweb_redirect&compact=true#.V2qa6WvyBw8.twitter

June 23, 2016 - 16:17

Jordan Evans

I don't get it :(

June 23, 2016 - 16:31

Jackson Rogers

I think he's offering you a handy, buddy.

June 23, 2016 - 16:33

Oliver Barnes

Sweet. Now if only I had a pecker..

June 23, 2016 - 16:49

Parker Jenkins

Imagine if by some miracle stuff like this keeps happening and Sanders actually flips Cali.
The salt will be monumental.

June 23, 2016 - 16:56

Austin Young

I don't believe you

June 23, 2016 - 16:59

Ayden Jones

I just thought of something.

It's gonna be either Yung Marco or Chris-T, probably Chris given the way Marco ragequit politics. Watch.

Well I guess that's just your experience because I've seen plenty of libertarians who want to deregulate banks in my time.

Actually you have to kind of read between the lines but they're also counting the regular ballots cast by NPP voters. It's yuge.

June 23, 2016 - 17:17

Aiden Hernandez

BERNIE JUST SAID TRUMP HAS "LIMITED CAPABILITIES
HE CALLED HIM RETARDED
IT'S ALL OVER

June 23, 2016 - 17:36

Benjamin Lee

Here, have a hand :^) There are some other cool chicks who post here, too. Shout out to the Eastern European farmer if she's still here.

June 23, 2016 - 17:46

Caleb Gutierrez

theintercept.com/2016/06/23/fbi-and-police-are-knocking-on-activists-doors-ahead-of-republican-national-convention/
FBI AND POLICE ARE KNOCKING ON ACTIVISTS’ DOORS AHEAD OF REPUBLICAN NATIONAL CONVENTION
are you guys ready for the shitshow? The feds are.

June 23, 2016 - 19:10

Jason Edwards

Sorry I'll be in Philly

June 23, 2016 - 19:37

Aiden Bell

I have a pecker and my hand is just as fragile and effeminate as yours.

June 23, 2016 - 20:04

Cooper Russell

I guess the feds saw the rising surge in support for fascism and decided to beat them to the punch

June 23, 2016 - 20:27

Robert Campbell

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June 23, 2016 - 20:49

Ryan Powell

...

June 23, 2016 - 21:08

Henry Nelson

i like things that are beautiful and delicate
;_;

June 23, 2016 - 21:14

Brayden Perez

...

June 23, 2016 - 21:57

Logan Hill

HOLY SHIT. That means… Bernie has a chance.

THE FIRE RISES AGAIN!!!

June 23, 2016 - 22:23

Josiah Walker

this is how Hillary rigs stuff though. all she had to do was delay the truth of his victory coming out.

June 23, 2016 - 22:29

Lucas Perry

cops LOVE donald trump.

June 23, 2016 - 22:29

William Allen

>Crash the DNC coronation party with no survivors
Fingers crossed, we're gonna have LOTS of fun.

June 24, 2016 - 01:50

Leo Parker

Bernie still has a chance. A small one. But a chance. It's up to the people who want him in to actually show support though.

Some of my RL friends didn't even know he as still in the race.

June 24, 2016 - 01:57

Isaac Jenkins

Do you shave you arms?

June 24, 2016 - 02:56

Angel Cruz

Sorry user

Glad I could help

Lmao, no, I just have blonde hair

June 24, 2016 - 03:52

Benjamin Nguyen

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June 24, 2016 - 03:57

David Young

telesurtv.net/english/news/Philadelphia-Sued-over-Free-Speech-at-Democratic-Convention-20160623-0026.html
The ACLU is suing Philly because the DNC is denying protest permits.

June 24, 2016 - 08:46

Robert Robinson

fun is overrated
tactics without strategy: useless

June 24, 2016 - 08:52

Jaxson Torres

Bernie Sanders Gets Cold Senate Reception
youtube.com/watch?v=-9YnzIF7woo

June 24, 2016 - 08:52

Kayden Turner

Jill Stein on that cringey Daily Show clone today talking about where the Sanders movement goes next:

youtube.com/watch?v=9N_jWAZeIZE

June 24, 2016 - 09:15

Chase James

...

June 24, 2016 - 09:22

Daniel Evans

shoe on head is my waifu

June 24, 2016 - 09:23

Brody Miller

Does the executive branch really have the power to cancel student debt through "quantitative easing"? I feel like this would be something a court might try to strike down.

June 24, 2016 - 09:37

Jack Rogers

...

June 24, 2016 - 09:43

Robert Myers

It's hard to say because basically the executive branch has come to have the power to do whatever it wants unless faced by serious opposition by the senate

June 24, 2016 - 09:46

Joseph Rodriguez

It's still amazing that the opening CG isn't even part of the parody

June 24, 2016 - 09:49

Chase Cook

...

June 24, 2016 - 09:53

Camden Green

Apparently not since Obama's immigration thing just got shut down by a judge.

June 24, 2016 - 10:13

Jacob Walker

yeah, and there are plenty of precedents where the executive branch has been outright ordered to do something by the judiciary and just said "make me fag0t"

June 24, 2016 - 10:31

Jason Miller

Vote for Basiago

June 24, 2016 - 10:33

Thomas Moore

It's been a while since the Trail of Tears at least.

June 24, 2016 - 10:34

David Hernandez

youtube.com/watch?v=Pji_IX-UacM

June 24, 2016 - 11:13

Benjamin Sanchez

...

June 24, 2016 - 15:48

Juan Ross

m'lord

June 24, 2016 - 16:06

Aiden Robinson

counterpunch.org/2016/06/24/beyond-bernie-still-not-with-her/
another take from waifu Kshama Sawant on $hillary 2016

June 24, 2016 - 18:46

Samuel Perez

Fuck dude. Shit like this makes Adam Booth at marxist.com look like a party detractor in terms of toeing the line.

June 24, 2016 - 18:54

Ethan James

who's bottom right

June 24, 2016 - 18:59

Dominic Wilson

Mercedes Cararra. A porn star.

June 24, 2016 - 19:01

Bentley Reed

I normally don't say this, but your waifu a shit

June 24, 2016 - 19:10

Blake Barnes

Most Liberals claim to hate religion but they are actually the contemporary heirs to the stromg Puritanical streak in American life that came over with the dour, humorless, fundamentalist Puritans. Like those original "men in black," their way is marked by extreme sexual hysteria, a willingness to burn hertics at the stake, an iron submission to dogma (PC), sexual hysteria and repression, and a fear of free thought and free speech (it was not puritans who drafted the bill of rights a century and a half after Plymouth Rock).

This puritanical steak has always been with us as a culture and while thankfully mostly submerged, it occasionally has hysterical flare-ups, like the Prohibition era when alcohol became an unquestionable evil. Today's Puritans are not witch-hunters or anti-whisky fanatics; their fundamental unquestionables are race and gender

June 24, 2016 - 19:15

Lucas Rogers

hot opinion

June 24, 2016 - 19:17

Jaxon Howard

It's kinda' true, though.

June 24, 2016 - 19:46

Brayden Scott

Most liberals are religious though, at least in America. (only about 15-20% non-religious)

June 24, 2016 - 20:26

Landon Reed

I hope that the #Brexit (and thereby hard-right conservative) win puts to bed any accelerationist notions of conservative governments leading to an increase in class consciousness or helping the left. Don't vote for Drumpf, you short-sighted twats.

June 24, 2016 - 20:44

Charles Lewis

Is that Milo in the bottom middle? Fuck off, he's a retard. "Social science" isn't even the same thing as "social justice," this post is a mess.

June 24, 2016 - 20:45

Cooper Perez

Can confirm. Both parents are strict religious & liberals.
I'm also a believer & left.

June 24, 2016 - 20:46

Jace Gonzalez

False, but you don't care about facts, do you?

Leaving that thread? Yes. Leaving the board? No, I don't recall that. Even if I did, I decided to give this board one final try.

I could ask the same thing of you, since you apparently relish in abusing fellow anons just because they disagree with you. That is the epitome of sectarianism and it's a main contributor in what killed the radical left.

Consider suicide, shitbag. If it makes you feel better, I could use the anarcho-greenie flag. Will that stop your incessant whining and shitposting, or are you too obsessed with me to care about that anymore?

What are you talking about? If you mean the keys required to launch a thermonuclear ICBM, then yes, but those are turned by employees at the facility at direct command from the president.

Take your own advice.

No, I'm the "patriarchy is real and I already explained how it is, but you refuse to accept the clear empirical and formal evidence for it" ancom.

June 24, 2016 - 20:52

Evan Myers

I appreciate different opinions on the board; especially if they have thought put into them rather than just shitposting.

If you have time, can you elaborate on this quote? Imo, most families worldwide are centered around the father, as far as like the "final call" on things related to family. Though many have strong input from the mother as well(when the father really respects the mother). I kind of think of it as the natural order of things, being that the father in most instances is the breadwinner & protector of family/family name.

I don't know if that relates to what you mean by patriarchy, but, thoughts?

June 24, 2016 - 21:02

Lincoln Bailey

Conservatism isn't accelerationism. Accelerationism is driving the rate of capital growth.

June 24, 2016 - 21:13

Michael Lee

I'll fucking stab you in the mouth m8 swear on me mum

June 24, 2016 - 21:18

William Barnes

You gonna lose that flag kiddo?

June 24, 2016 - 21:18

Adrian Wood

Tbh, this sounds more like ultra-conservatives. Instead of PC it would be the Bible.

Like after 9/11 how many thought flag burning should be a crime because 'murica and we should torture anyone if they were accused of terrorism regardless of evidence or not.

June 24, 2016 - 21:41

Lucas Barnes

She makes a very persuasive argument here, this needs to be shared around.

June 24, 2016 - 21:54

Blake Edwards

reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4poryi/dnc_sued_by_up_to_2_million_sanders_donors_in/

June 25, 2016 - 09:09

Jace Diaz

Wow, Uganda doesn't afraid of anything.

June 25, 2016 - 09:30

Grayson Price

what does a litre of alcohol mean? pure?

June 25, 2016 - 10:03

Jack Edwards

The winds of shit are blowin', Randy. We're looking at a perfect shitstorm here.

June 25, 2016 - 10:18

Gabriel Hernandez

It's just a measurement, not a proof

June 25, 2016 - 10:37

Jaxson James

These people are no different from SJWs

June 25, 2016 - 12:22

Kayden Campbell

I don't think that was such a smart idea you know.

June 25, 2016 - 12:27

Ethan Wilson

What? Posting something negative about Trump?

I didn't evade any ban because there wasn't a ban to evade

June 25, 2016 - 12:31

Matthew Torres

I mean;t your IP is exposed, unless it's a proxy.

June 25, 2016 - 12:33

Benjamin Rogers

Whoops. Thanks comrade

June 25, 2016 - 12:39

Jackson Price

8ch.net/pol/res/6473997.html#6474154
Funny thread

June 25, 2016 - 13:27

Jose Robinson

8ch.net/pol/res/6473997.html
My bad. And I'm too lazy to direct link.

June 25, 2016 - 13:29

Asher Price

what does this have to do with the american elections you gay faggot

June 25, 2016 - 13:36

Mason Smith

Also
Wew lad that's some irony right there

June 25, 2016 - 13:37

Juan Cooper

It's political. Fuck off.

June 25, 2016 - 13:40

Evan Williams

...

June 25, 2016 - 13:44

Adam Taylor

youtube.com/watch?v=-mAG-0PKpgE
Is Trump REALLY a Fascist?
don't read the comments section

June 25, 2016 - 13:48

Camden Johnson

Your shitposts on a forum for retards don't have anything to do with the american elections you dumb baby

June 25, 2016 - 14:08

Grayson Flores

Ignore it then.

June 25, 2016 - 14:11

Jacob Brooks

It would be better if you kept your stupid bullshit to yourself instead of spreading it around

June 25, 2016 - 14:16

Liam Clark

theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/25/donald-trump-media-ban-guardian-denied-entry-campaign-event
Trump bans the Guardian from his events.
I'm curious to see how many news outlets won't be banned by November.

June 25, 2016 - 14:21

Camden Young

Why so angry, user? You're shitposting is more than those two posts I made, at this point. :^)

June 25, 2016 - 14:22

Nathaniel Perry

reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-paulson-idUSKCN0ZB00R

June 25, 2016 - 14:22

Kayden Rodriguez

...

June 25, 2016 - 14:40

Samuel Jones

inthesetimes.com/article/19247/betraying-progressives-dnc-platform-backs-fracking-tpp-and-israel-occupatio

God it's amazing how eager Hillarystans are to slurp up right wing policies as long as the democrats propose them.

June 25, 2016 - 16:54

Bentley Garcia

That's what happens when your politics are guided by the "party" rather than by any sort of theory.

June 25, 2016 - 18:41

Zachary Adams

I've heard it said that the UK (probably minus Scotland) leaving the EU might actually make the EU run smoother, since the UK has long been a source of friction within it. Also I personally think this might serve as a wakeup call to the EU, and to its member nations, to become more democratic, and significantly increase the amount of "multi-speed" policy to the point where the EU's constant expansion isn't being abused as the vector for 1st-world/3rd-world neoliberal economic arbitrage it has become, but instead the venue for legal harmony and cooperation it was intended as.

Yes, the quantity of 100% pure alcohol contained in all the (varying strength) booze that nation's average citizen swills each year:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Alcohol_consumption_per_capita_world_map.PNG

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>During a 9-hour meeting in St. Louis, Missouri on Friday, members of the DNC's platform drafting committee voted down a number of measures proposed by Bernie Sanders surrogates that would have come out against the contentious Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP), fracking, and the Israeli occupation of Palestine. At the same time, proposals to support a carbon tax, Single Payer healthcare, and a $15 minimum wage tied to inflation were also disregarded.
Support for the TPP and its ilk among Republican voters (as opposed to politicians) is no better than among their Democrat peers, and our last healthcare "compromise" (purely against against the "help" of a Democrat supermajority in both houses) was literally the Republican proposal Hillary rejected in the '90s.

Kek, aren't filters supposed to mock stormniggers or be funny, not just echo them distractingly?

June 25, 2016 - 20:52

Tyler Evans

lmao, you mean when Obama had the financial industry by the balls and…gave them everything they wanted because "the experts" said so (of course, it was purely coincidental that said experts were usually previous employees of the same companies they were supposed to be monitoring)

June 25, 2016 - 21:04

Ayden Martin

You're a broken record. Even if you aren't shitposting calling everyone that doesn't accept your idpol reactionaries. Then you're shitposting about "sectarianism". You're such a hypocrite. Drop the flag and stop derailing threads to bitch about leftypol.

June 26, 2016 - 01:55

Sebastian Edwards

Holy shit those comments. They've solidified my idea that everything Holla Forums or the alt-right does is because it's a meme and not because they actually think it will work in the long-run.

June 26, 2016 - 02:42

Owen Rivera

youtube.com/watch?v=2QJjlX4m0lU

reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4pvcvg/cornel_west_calls_out_dnc_on_vote_against_single/

Cornell West calls out DNC on voting against single-payer healthcare

June 26, 2016 - 05:44

Luis Green

Will Bernie Sanders vote for Clinton?

youtube.com/watch?v=tEwyBcHysck

Fuck ben as always, but stay tuned for the Jimmy rant at the end. Ana was alright towards the end, too. I hope Hillary gets indicted before the convention. Where is wikileaks right now? Anyone have an update on this?

I rarely watch TYT anymore, btw.

June 26, 2016 - 05:57

Jordan Ward

And they show a second clip after the first one, so don't get discouraged. This is MSBNC, after all.

If Bernie doesn't get the nom, most of us will be voting Green, anyway. I wasn't sure about voting Green at first, but I got to know their platform & it seems the obvious choice if Bernie isn't nominated or run independent.

June 26, 2016 - 05:59

Jaxon Gutierrez

washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/23/make-america-white-again-a-politicians-billboard-ignites-uproar/

June 26, 2016 - 09:22

Joseph Ross

Saw this and thought of you guys.

June 26, 2016 - 11:25

Aiden Sanchez

thatsthejoke.png

Sayym Famm. Though I'm more of a UUer than anything right now.

The ultimate partyists. These are the kinds of schmucks who will describe themselves as "loyal Democrat"s and I'm quoting directly from multiple people there.

June 26, 2016 - 11:28

Ethan Taylor

So I've been thinking about the email shit with Clinton. It's obvious now to anybody who works in security what a walking hazard she is. Also the military hates her.

If she got elected, is a military coup a real possibility?

June 26, 2016 - 13:25

Brody Taylor

This is the level of intellect we are dealing with.

June 26, 2016 - 13:29

Ian Cooper

nope.

June 26, 2016 - 13:31

Daniel Jones

So fuckin brave

June 26, 2016 - 13:34

Isaac Rodriguez

These people are morons, but it's easy to cherry pick morons off opinionstube of all places. Bananaman doesn't really belong on there tbh though. He's not part of the clique and is the least cancerous by far since he just tries to do entertainment now.

June 26, 2016 - 13:45

Hunter Thomas

I recognize all of these except the bottom left.
they should all be purged tbh.

June 26, 2016 - 14:11

Cameron Jackson

It's internet aristocrat.

June 26, 2016 - 14:13

Carter King

Bottom left is this guy.

June 26, 2016 - 14:13

Josiah Allen

What, he changed his persona?
Is he still a faggot?
who am i kidding, of course he is

June 26, 2016 - 14:49

Noah Brooks

Now he goes by Mister Metokur

June 26, 2016 - 14:54

Daniel Kelly

He made a video where he says we should trust corporations or something and let them control everything. That's some shitlist material right there.

June 26, 2016 - 14:57

Christopher Brown

I always thought that asshole was annoying. He was one of the reasons I was turned off of GG despite agreeing with its premise.

June 26, 2016 - 15:01

William Hernandez

Tangentially related but what are Holla Forums's opinions on voter ID laws? Good, bad, attempts at voter disenfranchisement?

June 26, 2016 - 15:05

Henry Davis

a good idea in theory, but on site voter fraud in the US is such a non issue that the only reason someone would propose it is to disenfranchise poor people.

June 26, 2016 - 15:07

Jordan Reyes

Smokescreen to suppress votes
They should learn to count ballots before they start worrying about the people who fill them out.

June 26, 2016 - 15:13

Nicholas Sanchez

Most of GG thought he was annoying faggot but a useful annoying faggot. He ragequit and left when GG refused to pivot and be about anti-SJWism and kept focusing on the trust fund kiddies running roughshod over the video game industry. That's why he goes by MisterMetokur now. That and his Holla Forums buddies got triggered over him getting with an asian woman.

June 26, 2016 - 15:23

Levi Smith

When did this happen.

June 26, 2016 - 15:31

Ryan Howard

Like within the first six months.

June 26, 2016 - 15:34

Michael Robinson

I wanna say it was more like 3 months into it. Roughly the same time most of the people moved here from 4chan.

June 26, 2016 - 16:19

Kevin White

Very early on, obviously GG eventually lost that fight thus why most far-left fellerinos aren't going to consider themselves a part of GG in any way shape or form.

June 26, 2016 - 17:29

Samuel Torres

Eh, I would say I was part of GG and that it's basically over. What are the people who are left even doing at this point?

June 26, 2016 - 17:32

Christian Peterson

They still exist.

>>>Holla Forums9847263

June 26, 2016 - 17:34

Logan Brown

Watchdog stuff. Raising an occasional stink. I left when it became ineffectual; the GG of 2014 was capable of actually changing the industry, but now it's just Holla Forums-tier circlejerks.

June 26, 2016 - 17:44

Owen Ward

>1. HIT VICE IN ITS WEAK SPOT FOR MASSIVE DAMAGE >>>/gamergatehq/319806 p.teknik.io/AjPB2
>2. OPEASYONEHOURSALVO - pastebin.com/V2eFA9GE (Last updated June 3rd)
>3. GG WIKI IS BACK. UPDATE IT - [ gamergatewiki.com ]
>4. PUSH DIGIFIRA: digifira.com
>5. GAWKER IS DISSOLVING. WARN AS MANY PEOPLE AS YOU CAN OF GAWKER'S FORMER STAFF'S FUCKUPS >>>/gamergatehq/324724

Huh. Seems legit actually. Maybe I'll start paying attention to them again. If they can be turned more toward leftism they might be useful.

June 26, 2016 - 17:45

Leo Taylor

I meant that GG seems to me to be more concerned with being "anti-SJW" than actually trying to improve the vidya gaem industry

June 26, 2016 - 17:50

Benjamin Reed

Both are good things, tbh. The problem is that Holla Forums has been influencing them.

June 26, 2016 - 17:53

Sebastian Myers

Holla Forums was half of the equation from the start, it was pretty much bound to go the way it did. I feel bad about it because now shitting on the vidya industry like I used to on Holla Forums is now considered to be a right-wing thing, but that's reality.

June 26, 2016 - 17:56

Camden Ross

People can go fuck themselves. Do what you like and provide a counter example.

June 26, 2016 - 18:01

Andrew Allen

SJWs are a huge problem in the industry, so that's unavoidable.

June 26, 2016 - 18:09

Jayden Cruz

Yeah, bananaman's alright. The ranty videos against "SJWs" are tiresome and retarded. At least The Amazing Atheist doesn't pretend to be some intellectual and is funny most of the time.

His new show "Abandon Hope" is a good time-pass, sometimes:
youtube.com/watch?v=HSyZVLY0fQg

June 26, 2016 - 18:15

Aiden Morgan

I consider the notion of "family" to be a spook with no material basis. The nuclear family is a recent invention with virtually no historical precedent. Throughout human history, family relations have been organized in countless ways, including ones that are democratic and ones which even dissolve the notion of the family unit, such as with entire villages or communities raising their young. Part of achieving communism is to abolish the notion of the nuclear family and all such conceptions of it. Such social relations are purely a product of capitalism and serve no purpose outside of upholding antiquated and reactionary traditions relating to gender roles and control over the young.

The patriarchal structure of the nuclear family may be related to patriarchy in general society insomuch as its a manifestation thereof, but usually when I talk of patriarchy, I mean patriarchy per feminist theory.

You gonna neck yourself, kiddo?

Stay mad, faggot. I'm not leaving.

June 26, 2016 - 20:21

Cameron Young

Not really. They own gaming "journalism" (aka paid advertising) but games they don't like are still flowing.

Comic books, maybe, but they were dead anyway, at least in the superhero genre.

June 26, 2016 - 20:26

Andrew Torres

Haven't you noticed all the censored games and SJW pandering lately? They have influence inside localization companies and developers, not just journalism.

Not to mention that some games they don't like aren't flowing anymore. There have been an increasing number of Japanese developers talking about the "social culture" of the west as a reason for not bringing over games.

June 26, 2016 - 20:31

Blake Ross

This has always been the case. It's just "flared up" as of late.

But I'm not going to pretend to care about anime titty games for virgins. Mortal Kombat is as fucking revolting as ever (with tits).

June 26, 2016 - 20:33

Jayden Ward

Part of what GG found out was that the whole industry was infested. The IGDA and IGF were both doing shit they shouldn't.

June 26, 2016 - 20:37

Dylan Long

First they came for the socialists etc.

June 26, 2016 - 20:38

Owen Smith

That isn't "the whole industry".
I would be more sympathetic, but gamers have no self control and just buy things from companies they openly proclaim to hate, so they bring it upon themselves.

I meant that as a good thing, assburger.

June 26, 2016 - 20:42

Grayson Bailey

Yeah alright.

June 26, 2016 - 20:43

Jacob Wood

...

June 26, 2016 - 20:46

Adam Kelly

That proves the point you fucking spastic.

June 26, 2016 - 20:47

Aiden Ward

What point? That shitty game publishers do not, in fact, suffer whenever they make a shitty game if it isn't literally defective?

June 26, 2016 - 20:50

Jeremiah Morris

That individuals navigate through choice in the purchase of commodities, if they purchase in the first place at all.

Deal with it, faggot.

June 26, 2016 - 20:53

Brandon Nguyen

Nobody wants your sympathy, retard. The issue is your inability to recognize these idpolers as a problem. Hence this post

June 26, 2016 - 20:56

Carter Gonzalez

...

June 26, 2016 - 21:03

Connor Robinson

Gee I wonder how come there are no leftists there.

June 26, 2016 - 21:12

Oliver Torres

...

June 26, 2016 - 21:19

Daniel Richardson

Whatever. No one gives a shit about your patriarchy boogyman you attention whore. This is an election thread. Stop making everything about your idpol crap.

June 26, 2016 - 21:23

Brody Gomez

And yet they continually pour money into companies with constantly lowering standards of quality.

They are only a problem insofar as they have a few people that pander to them.
This would not matter in the slightest if people didn't fucking buy things they don't like. The video game industry is seemingly immune to this basic logic.

June 26, 2016 - 21:26

Ethan Long

You're just the worst.

June 26, 2016 - 21:28

Colton Hill

...

June 26, 2016 - 21:29

Cooper Reed

>gamergate isn't mostly people who would kill you in real life for being a communist or brown if they could get away with it

June 26, 2016 - 21:29

Xavier Sullivan

Except when you're in charge of vidya journalism, vidya networking, and vidya rewards, it's kind of hard for people to find out about things that you blacklist. And why are you using a lolbert argument, you fuck?

June 26, 2016 - 21:30

Juan Long

They could have choice if they wanted it. They don't. They enjoy the whining.

Literally the only reason "games journalism" even exists is to be paid advertising to begin with, same with stupid awards ceremonies.
If anything, video game channels are one of the few redeeming parts of OpinionsTube, like that huge fat guy that rails on Steam Greenlight games. Some people are taking it into their own hands, as they should, but all independent games are apparently "pretentious".
Acknowledging how the market works is not moralizing it. Unless you want to start arresting people just for having stupid Tumblr opinions.

June 26, 2016 - 21:35

Gavin Sullivan

Cry moar.

My point is that it's fucking stupid to try to infiltrate as degenerate and depraved a community as GG, since it has zero revolutionary potential whatsoever and they are too intoxicated by their spooky ideologies to have class consciousness. You would have a better chance at trying to infiltrate and radicalize hood gangs.

June 26, 2016 - 21:39

Jack Long

That's not what you did, you lying cocksucker.

>This would not matter in the slightest if people didn't fucking buy things they don't like.
If you actually don't understand how badly you fucked up here you need to either go read your first word of leftist literature or fuck off this board and die.

June 26, 2016 - 21:40

Evan Gonzalez

How can they have choice when they're Making America Great Again!

June 26, 2016 - 21:42

Jackson Ramirez

k
It's a fucking computer entertainment industry. Its existence as perpetuated by "intellectual property" is itself an aberration by left wing standards.

I don't even get what this is supposed to mean. I don't think Trump will do much to change gaming.

June 26, 2016 - 21:45

Chase Parker

If you understand that much then you have zero excuse for being stupid enough to blame consumers for shitty products. Putting people into separate categories for liking different things just makes it worse. No reeducation camp can fix you. You are not and never could be my comrade.

June 26, 2016 - 21:50

Eli Reed

And yet he gets the communities' unilateral support. I wonder why.

June 26, 2016 - 21:52

Elijah Collins

inquisitr.com/3248414/secret-gop-memo-targets-bernie-sanders-backers-clinton/
archive.is/SqdRS
dailykos.com/story/2016/6/26/1542763/-RNC-releases-Project-Pander-memo-about-how-it-will-attack-each-of-Clinton-s-potential-VP-choices
archive.is/pmbl5
TL;DR The Republicans are going to try and get Bernie Sanders supporters on their side by using Clinton's fuckery to split the Democrats even further.

June 26, 2016 - 21:52

Samuel Martinez

I want to see Trump publicly ask Sanders to be his running mate just for the shitshow that would follow.

June 26, 2016 - 21:55

Jeremiah Carter

Ordinarily I would agree. I am arguing that video games are an exception.

I am not even arguing this in light of GG. I am arguing from the perspective of someone who has played far more vidya than is healthy. At this point, I simply have no pity for most people who buy shitty games, because they do not try to do research, and I doubt there are many people who have a latest-gen console or high end PC but no Internet access.

Fine with me. You sound like a Trot.

June 26, 2016 - 21:55

Cooper Wright

We aren't actually talking about anything specifically except how much of an absolute faggot you are. So why would I have any arguments you stupid asshole? If you're talking about that nuclear family crap you didn't say anything I'd really disagrees with. Also You' the one that calls everyone that doesn't agree with you a reactionary. So don't give me that everything I don't like is idpol crap. It's just more hypocrisy coming from you.

June 26, 2016 - 21:58

Hudson Ward

I've made numerous substantive posts in this thread. You have not. You have done nothing but harass me because you apparently have some personal vendetta against me. Even worse is that the irony eludes you, since you ramble about idpol while engaging in sectarianism (idpol); repeatedly accuse me of being a broken record; stay in these threads, making shitposts demanding that I leave for shitposting; and slander me as a hypocrite while engaging in all the behavior I just described.

If you are so sick of me, then kindly shut up and ignore me. Would you like for me to use a tripcode so that you can filter me, since my posts obviously trigger you too much? If it keeps you from throwing a tantrum on every thread I post in, and proceed to nearly derail it with you and your buddies' dogged badgering, then I don't mind doing so.

I call certain people reactionary when they express reactionary views. You are one such person. I haven't accused every single one of my interlocutors of being reactionary, even though some of them have disagreed with me. While it is unfortunate that most of my posts involve calling people out for reactionary views, that doesn't mean that I consider anyone who disagrees with me as such.

Stop shitting up this thread, and stop shitting up every thread I'm in just because you have a hateboner for me. My "idpol crap" only began when jackasses like you began dogging me for expressing my opinions, which you so happened to have not liked. Next time, maybe express your disagreement like a mature adult with a functioning brain and I won't resort to calling you a reactionary and Holla Forums provocateur.

June 26, 2016 - 22:28

Cooper Powell

Fussing over "voter suppression" is retarded. In-person polling should be abolished nationwide like in Colorado, Oregon, and Washington. Concerns over electronic vote counting should be addressed with public-private blockchain encryption keys, which are completely unfalsifiable and would allow for secure online votes.

You're full of it, actual developers, and the HR/PR parasites that lord over them, are increasingly drinking the koolaid. Whether it's out of honest pod person insanity or fearful realpolitik conformity is irrelevant, if SJWism isn't stopped, it will irrevocably kill gaming (and the larger IT industry it's part of). What happened to comics because of moral panic hysteria and PC from right-wingers CAN happen here and now from similar sentiments among "leftists".

Do I need to pull out the scattergraph proving GG is primarily LEFT wing again?

Wow, the classcucking is real!

There are only two possibilities, neither of them indicate we should let you post without flaming your dumb ass into the ground:
A) You are using very idiosyncratic terminology for ideas worth consideration, but they will sound like cancer until you stop being so needlessly obtuse or someone cracks your code
B) You are the PC cancer killing leftism and should be purged for reeducation

June 26, 2016 - 23:26

Jaxson Hill

Also
Your Tumblrina is showing

June 26, 2016 - 23:30

Dylan Johnson

Doesn't the fact that you know what it is oust you more thoroughly than the user posting it?

June 27, 2016 - 00:25

Andrew Harris

I shitpost Holla Forums sometimes, and they have wino nose ragethreads pretty regularly. It's like horsefuckery, nobody with any self respect would post it unironically.

June 27, 2016 - 00:54

Luke Morris

Feudalism, actually. The "traditional" feudalist family model has actually been undermined by capitalism since the '70s when stagnant wages and debt forced women to go out and get jobs of their own. Predictably with hindsight, divorce rates have skyrocketed since then.

June 27, 2016 - 01:00

Christopher Adams

Feudalism, actually. The "traditional" feudalist family model has actually been undermined by capitalism since the '70s when stagnant wages and debt forced women to go out and get jobs of their own. Predictably with hindsight, divorce rates have skyrocketed since then.

June 27, 2016 - 01:07

Cooper Gonzalez

Feel free to post it, but I don't believe it is accurate.

It's probably A, since I do indeed have a very idiosyncratic and eccentric diction and writing style. It's a personal problem of mine that I still haven't fixed over years, and I am beginning to stop trying because I question whether the problem is with me. Unfortunately, it makes me incredibly easy to spot even when anonymous, hence why I am so frequently recognized.

I didn't know that cartoon even existed before you just mentioned it. I only remember seeing that reaction image posted on Holla Forums before, considered it amusing, and saved it to my folder of reaction images with strange filenames. I agree with , the irony is rich.

I don't see how this Dover Boys cartoon would be indicative of being a Tumblr user, though, since it's an old and obscure cartoon.

Have another.

The feudal family structure was largely communal, however, with the children being raised by the village. The nuclear family began at the advent of capitalism. The recent dissolution of the nuclear family is a product of advanced late capitalism failing to maintain its own superstructure, not the breakdown of a social arrangement that predates capitalism.

June 27, 2016 - 01:15

Nathaniel Wilson

Sometimes I really fucking hope you are a clever false-flag played by a Leninist comrade.

June 27, 2016 - 01:16

Landon Martinez

Not a reactionary, sorry.

June 27, 2016 - 01:17

Noah Morales

you gonna lose that flag kiddo?

June 27, 2016 - 01:18

Andrew Butler

They just don't seem to get it, do they

June 27, 2016 - 01:21

Evan Evans

What the fuck is going on in this thread? Who sages a cyclical?

June 27, 2016 - 01:24

Brayden Price

Not him, but The Dover Boys had an inexplicable, fiery, but extremely short-lived resurgence on Tumblr a few months ago, which is what he's referring too. Still, TDB has been a meme long before then and has been a relatively common imageboard "guest" for years.

I'm from Tumblr. Gross, right?

June 27, 2016 - 01:28

Jack Richardson

There's good porn there

June 27, 2016 - 01:30

Jaxson Scott

Feudalism, actually. The "traditional" feudalist family model has actually been undermined by capitalism since the '70s when stagnant wages and debt forced women to go out and get jobs of their own. Predictably with hindsight, divorce rates have skyrocketed since then.

June 27, 2016 - 01:31

Mason Price

Yeah, but not that.

June 27, 2016 - 01:35

Jacob Rivera

Sorry, I can't help your shitty taste.

June 27, 2016 - 01:35

Jonathan Fisher

We are unified in our desire to see capitalism ended, not on what we'll fap to after that happens.

June 27, 2016 - 01:43

Cameron Taylor

...

June 27, 2016 - 01:47

Ethan Moore

YOU HAVE TO GO BACK

June 27, 2016 - 01:58

Josiah Mitchell

US Republican presidential campaign sinking into crisis
wsws.org/en/articles/2016/06/23/trum-j23.html

23 June 2016

June 27, 2016 - 01:59

Noah Phillips

...

June 27, 2016 - 02:00

Charles Scott

...

June 27, 2016 - 02:00

Nathaniel Hughes

I have never expressed any reactionary views on this board. You call nearly everyone that disagrees with your little patriarchy conspiracy theory a reactionary. The patriarchy thread is still up if anyone wants to see it.

Like this guy said Great porn if you're into western artists and 3D stuff. Still better then Reddit that place is just absolutely toxic. Oh and this anecdotal but all the women I know that browse Reddit in real life are usually real nice and like talking about video games and pop culture rather then social justice or whatever.

June 27, 2016 - 02:14

Jace Williams

Has "reactionary" ever meant anything other than "disagrees with my politics?"

June 27, 2016 - 02:27

Ayden Rogers

Feudalism, actually. The "traditional" feudalist family model has actually been undermined by capitalism since the '70s when stagnant wages and debt forced women to go out and get jobs of their own. Predictably with hindsight, divorce rates have skyrocketed since then.

June 27, 2016 - 02:39

Jeremiah Gonzalez

Sure. It just one of those words that gets over used to dismiss other people's arguments like how some Americans call anyone remotely left leaning a communist. It's just a tactic dishonest people like to use regardless of ideological leaning.

I took a course on Western Civilization last year and apparently the nuclear family was popular n in Byzantium.

June 27, 2016 - 02:44

Isaac Reed

Refer to .

I sage when I consider my post off-topic, when I don't want to bump the thread, or when I don't want my post being on the front page.

Of course a sage isn't a downvote. Not even redditers believe that.

Your opinions on feminism and feminist theory are extremely reactionary. You aren't even criticizing it from a radical leftist perspective; you just invoke general strawmen and other memetic trash from Holla Forums as a substitute for a valid argument.

Only when the basis for your disagreement is, in fact, reactionary. Like I've said before, I have no problems treating Marxism as a conspiracy theory if you are going to be so intellectually dishonest as to treat patriarchy as such.

The total lack of self-awareness is astounding. You made yourself look like a complete and utter fool in that thread. Go on, promote it. I'll even link to it. Maybe a few more Holla Forums provocateurs can come in and stir up more shit, like you did:

Nigga, that's the fourth time you've posted that. I know the site is broken, but surely you've seen it by now?

June 27, 2016 - 02:47

Leo Harris

Are you some kind of liberal chatbot AI that SRS created using their trust fund money or something? It's the same shit over and over again with you.
Your post are so long yet contain absolutely no substance.It's incredible. I'm not getting into this with you again. You repeat the same crap regardless of the evidence or arguments you're presented with. You're a fucking laughing stock.

June 27, 2016 - 03:21

Kevin Mitchell

Holla Forums-Gamergate and Tumblr porn
can you guys fuck off to >>>/leftyb/ already

June 27, 2016 - 03:28

Luke Phillips

So, does anybody think they'll really do it? Much as I hope they're arrogant enough, I don't personally think the 3rd-party Bernie anti-spoiler we all want is actually going to happen.

June 27, 2016 - 04:11

Logan White

archive.is/WJsFz
The Progressive Case Against Elizabeth Warren
I was going to say something along the lines of "Being Elizabeth Warren is Suffering" but she kinda deserves it

June 27, 2016 - 04:21

Nolan Hernandez

I'm convinced you're probably just flaming now. Good ruse, fam. You got me angry a few times.

Still commit suicide, though.

June 27, 2016 - 04:45

Brandon Walker

gonna lose that flag kiddo?

June 27, 2016 - 04:53

Camden Thomas

youtube.com/watch?v=198Hy0ctRFk

June 27, 2016 - 06:20

Dylan Cooper

I think it's fake

June 27, 2016 - 06:47

Aaron Adams

test

June 27, 2016 - 07:08

Bentley Kelly

Let me post, asshole

June 27, 2016 - 07:10

Angel Lopez

I can post short posts but not long ones for some reason

Why?

June 27, 2016 - 07:12

Nolan Flores

I've had the same problem twice on this board in the last month. I suspect t's either some kind of wacky censorship, or a malfunctioning wordfilter. Least frustrating way around it is to just screencap your post and embed that.

June 27, 2016 - 07:17

Jason Bell

Second time for me in last month, too.

Screencap & embed.. I'll remember that. Usually after a while it goes back to normal, but I don't want to have to wait hours to post, so I'll probably do that.

June 27, 2016 - 07:21

Chase Young

Even tried to break my post down to part one & two.. Still nothing.

Guess I'll see you guys in a couple of hours! I'm too lazy right now to try other things. Fix your shit please, Frederick.

June 27, 2016 - 07:31

Easton Rivera

Clinton is on tv right now announcing Warren as her running mate. I wonder how many pieces of silver she got. She's also ripping off Sanders point for point.

I would sell my soul and endure eternal damnation if it meant seeing her skull explode like a ripe mellon on live tv.

June 27, 2016 - 08:21

Ian Hernandez

I might be mistaken. It just said CLINTON AND WARREN JOIN FORCES IN OHIO

June 27, 2016 - 08:25

Noah Nelson

not yet, but she's joining her on the campaign trail.

I bet Ribbit will still defend her.

June 27, 2016 - 08:28

Ian Davis

You & me both, user.. You & me both.

June 27, 2016 - 08:34

Brayden Roberts

Honestly, that's a bold move having both a female as President & VP. That solidifies a lot of people voting for Trump. Whether you agree with that or not, that's how it's going to be for many people. Especially in the south.

June 27, 2016 - 08:39

Joseph Taylor

In the restaurant I was in while watching this shit, the people in the booth beside me were talking about how they hated Trump and Clinton, but would vote for Trump because "everything she says is a lie."

AMERICAN DEMOCRACY

June 27, 2016 - 08:46

Samuel King

WE ARE BLESSED TO LIVE IN SUCH A WONDERFUL, FREE, DEMOCRATIC NATION

June 27, 2016 - 08:56

Anthony Hall

were they eating burgers

June 27, 2016 - 08:59

Jaxon Miller

...

June 27, 2016 - 09:06

Aiden Edwards

hahaha

June 27, 2016 - 09:34

Carter Taylor

B L E S S E D
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S
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June 27, 2016 - 09:51

Aaron Hill

actually yes it was a Wendy's

June 27, 2016 - 10:20

Elijah Flores

why did this make me laugh

June 27, 2016 - 10:39

Adrian Gutierrez

so I guess I just don't vote anymore?

the green party is polling below the lolberts and the two main options are terrible.

June 27, 2016 - 10:56

Jose Myers

Cod blease. What they NEED to do is let Trump be their nominee and watch him fail and be like "I told you so" while they hold down the fort in Congress and in the states, and support Gary Johnson behind his back. Then Sanders can jump in as either a Green or a Dem (but hopefully it's as a Green, if they do become nationally viable, I mean, can you imagine how stupid it would be for Stein to run against Sanders? She's madman enough to do it if he doesn't come to the Greens). Both Trump and Hillary are going down in flames. Maybe neither of them makes it to November. All I know is it makes for a great show to watch. And so does the Brexit thing.

Assange when? FBI when? I can't wait much longer for my cummies.

June 27, 2016 - 11:15

Chase Reyes

If Bernie is nominated or runs- Bernie
If you live in a red or blue state- Stein
If you live in a swing state- Clinton (Trump is not a good idea don't listen to shit/pol/sters)

June 27, 2016 - 11:17

Austin Bennett

We don't listen to CTR shills either

June 27, 2016 - 11:19

Dylan Cooper

wew

June 27, 2016 - 11:23

Jack Cook

Fuck both Trump and Clinton. I won't be voting for either of them in any circumstance. The US is fucked, either way if either is elected.

If more understood the value of their vote, they'd stop voting for "the lesser evil". We should start sooner rather than later in encouraging that.

June 27, 2016 - 11:27

Jayden Gonzalez

Oh no, Bernie Sanders pls be careful

archive.is/gxH4I#selection-319.0-319.66

June 27, 2016 - 11:42

Hunter Perry

Neither is Clinton you dumb liberal.

June 27, 2016 - 12:03

Luke Thompson

...

June 27, 2016 - 12:11

Nathan Perry

You know who needs to check their fucking muh privilege? The people who voted for a candidate because some "Bros" said some mean things to them on the Internet

June 27, 2016 - 12:18

Colton Jackson

...

June 27, 2016 - 12:22

Brandon Ross

washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/06/27/clinton-calls-saving-lives-through-gun-control-a-civil-rights-issue/
archive.is/v57Y5

being poor and black

June 27, 2016 - 13:35

Adam Baker

Riley Ried endorses Bernie

youtu.be/oEZ34lc8Mxw?t=42m35s

June 27, 2016 - 13:47

David Jenkins

The joke is everything Trump says is a lie.

June 27, 2016 - 13:50

Henry Price

blackagendareport.com/bogus_power_of_black_vote
She's the "Black Power" candidate simply because she (supposedly) has a better chance of defeating Trump.

Of course there's also the Clinton campaign's "artful smear" of Bernie Sanders and his supporters as a bunch of racist white males

June 27, 2016 - 13:52

Zachary Hernandez

She also has a majority of the black vote set. So it's not surprising seeing that community support her regardless.

June 27, 2016 - 13:57

Hunter Johnson

Le better than Trump meigh meigh is true you know. Do you really want Republicans to have control of both chambers of ongress and the Presidency?

But the crime bill had good stuff in it too! Bernie voted for it, sassanach!
It's actually because she's been patsying them with pandering for a very, very long time, giving them attention at conferences and stuff.

June 27, 2016 - 14:27

Jacob Howard

Official Set to Testify Against Hillary Found Dead
conservativetribune.com/official-testify-against-hillary

June 27, 2016 - 14:29

Noah Campbell

I don't want neoliberals of any color to have control over both chambers of congress and the presidency.

June 27, 2016 - 14:41

Ayden Parker

Where are the protests of the DNC taking place?

June 27, 2016 - 14:51

Ryder Foster

REEEE WHITE HIPSTERS STOP SPEAKING FOR NONWHITES!!!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Wew ok yurop
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Hey guys, Bernie may have won California after all if current reports are accurate.
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Also this is very tangentially related but Jimmy Kimmel is 9000x worse than John Oliver and I don't care what anyone else says.

June 27, 2016 - 14:56

Jace Hill

Every time

June 27, 2016 - 15:00

Kevin Carter

He kinda seemed like a douchenozzle but what did he do specifically?

June 27, 2016 - 15:00

Parker Taylor

You kinda need to source that shit dawg

June 27, 2016 - 15:01

Adam Brooks

Nothing in particular, he just buys into wage gap bullshit and is 100% convinced that people think Hillary is untrustworthy because she's a woman. What a fuck.

/r/sandersforpresident shit dawg fam
instagram.com/p/BHI5OCfBk-V/

June 27, 2016 - 15:08

Brandon Myers

...

June 27, 2016 - 15:14

Jose Reyes

Kewl, my man! Your post is da bomb diggity.

June 27, 2016 - 15:28

Isaac Brown

...

June 27, 2016 - 16:01

Jonathan Jones

jacobinmag.com/2016/06/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-republicans-democrats-racism-brexit-election/
Corey Robin of Jacobin reaffirms his prediction that Trump will be slaughtered in the general.

June 27, 2016 - 16:20

Parker Bell

The world economy is going to collapse pretty soon, sooooo good luck with that hilldawg.

zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-27/greenspan-warns-crisis-imminent-he-urges-return-gold-standard

June 27, 2016 - 16:40

Easton Carter

There was an article on reuters today commenting on the loss of something like 2.3 trillion dollars over the course of monday and tuesday and how it was an even bigger drop than the 2008 crisis but that they "perceived no danger of collapse."

lol

June 27, 2016 - 16:42

Nathan Gray

Whose titties are those

June 27, 2016 - 16:45

Anthony Martin

donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/sellout-warren

Warren BTFO. It will be delicious to watch her career crash and burn because of her own actions.

June 27, 2016 - 17:01

Owen Campbell

I mean. I fucking hate both Trump and Clinton with fiery hate. So don't call me a Hillary voter or some shit, but I really, really don't see a way Trump can win the election at this point.

June 27, 2016 - 17:04

Nathan Morgan

"Democracy" is Greek for "deciding who the nation hates the most" right?

June 27, 2016 - 17:32

Elijah Robinson

On the contrary, I don't see a way Clinton can win. She has so much baggage that Trump can attack her on, not to mention that she is still being investigated.

Plus, running as a Republican-lite on a Democratic ticket never works out well. Liberals who aren't swayed by idpol or party loyalty will vote third party or not vote, but Republicans will never vote for a Clinton.

June 27, 2016 - 17:34

Xavier Hall

Despite that Clinton has most of the black and latino vote on lock down regardless, and the likelihood of him just opening his mouth and saying offensive crowd pleasing shit instead of saying anything of substance in debate is likely.

True, but the amount of baggage Trump has largely outweighs the baggage Clinton has to the American public.

If you have a majority of 28% of the non-white vote, and a majority of women in the nation aren't receptive to you, you're basically fucked demographics wise. I can't see a situation where whites go en masse to vote for Trump. I'm not arguing whether one is better than the other. It's pointless, I'm arguing the likelihood of Trump winning over anyone at this point is pretty moot.

June 27, 2016 - 17:38

Dylan Cox

Minorities dont vote and what has trump done besides say mean things?
Clinton voted for iraq, destroyed libya, takes money from wall street.
How will you feel one day and wake up and mia love is trumps vp?

June 27, 2016 - 17:43

Josiah Rodriguez

It's not that, it's the fact that he's not an experienced politician in the slightest. He has no idea how to run a town, let alone the most dominant country on the entire planet. If Clinton hammers this point in and makes him look like a moron(like when he was asked about the nuclear trio), she could easily make him look like a bafoon and win the nomination. She is, however(currently) shooting herself in the foot.

Clinton has done a lot of nasty shit, but not ever being in politics does not mean that person will make a good politician.

June 27, 2016 - 17:48

Mason Hughes

You dont get it, do you?
HAHAHAHAHAH
The people dont want politicians, why do you think trump won?

You mean the politicians who cant get anything done?
The politicians who start endless wars?
The politicians that bail out the banks?

June 27, 2016 - 17:53

Levi Johnson

Hello Holla Forums

June 27, 2016 - 17:57

Connor Smith

Yes, I've noticed you people have this stupid idea, that the "politician" is a proffecion.

A politician is a person who does politics. His job isn't "politician".

Since Trump got messed up in politics, he is a politician.

Deal with it!

June 27, 2016 - 17:59

Evan Morgan

you just got done arguing that trump isnt a politician so he will lose, now he is a politicians so…he will lose.

*teleports behind you
*unsheathes kattana
"heh, nothing personal kid "

June 27, 2016 - 18:02

Logan Hernandez

Trump is NOW a politician. Politician is not a "career". The fact that it has become only shows 'Murica doesn't have Democracy.

I never said he isn't gonna win.
In fact, LET HIM WIN! FUCK IT! POSADISM IS A BETTER OPTION TO NEOLIBERALISM!

June 27, 2016 - 18:06

Jackson Ward

This is what you sound like. Politics, wether you want to accept it or not, are complicated and require extensive knowledge of theory and government to run efficiently( which, being on leftypol I'm opposed to in of itself). As a leftist I'd like to get rid the system all together, but I would prefer someone who knows the intricacies of the system to someone who know virtually nothing and will most likely hand the country to the neocons.

There's a reason we call you "reactionary".

Thinking that a billionaire who was friends with the Clintons and everyone you despise, who engaged in virtually no philanthropy to help the working class in his life, has now suddenly decided to run for president out of pure benevolence to make America great again, by building a wall between us and Mexico and using fascist-esque documentation of the muslim demographic in the U.S. to stop the evil other, is really the second coming as you make him out to be. Or even an improvement over the status quo.

June 27, 2016 - 18:10

Logan Edwards

One who knows how the state works, isn't a politician. It's a Jurist.

A politician could be a doctor, for example. He has ADVISORS to tell him how a law could be implemented.

The fact that Trump isn't a part of "the system" doesn't make him better or worse.
The fact that he is a bourgie with bourgie interests, does.

June 27, 2016 - 18:14

Luis Martinez

Okay, sorry I mixed up definitions there.
Regardless, the most important part in that was the last paragraph about how he is in no way, shape or form superior to Clinton.

June 27, 2016 - 18:20

Hudson Peterson

IMO, they are both shit.
Maybe Clinton can handle what she wants to do better.. but like the Brexit, even of Yes won, things wouldn't be better.

But that's secondary, indeed.

June 27, 2016 - 18:25

Jayden Mitchell

Am I the only one who fears a Trump loss for the possible monster(s) it might unleash? A Trump presidency would hardly be some sort of fascist nightmare; at worst, it would be a repeat of the Reagan years (which isn't good, but survivable). Perhaps the right may even come to realize it's not blacks or browns or Muslims or women or whatever fucking them over, it's the rich fucking them over.

But with Clinton, there's no plan to deal with the issues that gave rise to the Trump movement. Hell, some people even seem to suggest sticking their thumbs in the eyes of Trump supporters for even daring to consider him. What then? The "movement" right now is pretty decentralized, lacking any sort of real structure, but what happens if it gets some? I don't know that it's just going to fade away under a President Clinton.

June 27, 2016 - 18:34

Lincoln Ramirez

28% of the electorate last year was from non-whites. Primarily latinos. It was considered not a really excited vote in that case.

So, let's just say it doesn't climb and stays at that 28%. If you alienate that 28%, it's fucked.

That said, it's going to be more than 28% this election.

June 27, 2016 - 18:38

Easton Richardson

Fuck, I didn't mean last year. I meant last election.

June 27, 2016 - 18:39

Daniel King

I fear a Clinton or Trump Presidency.

You mean the fact that at least half of Americans are retards? The only way to solve this is addressing our education system(among other institutions), and that's not going to happen anytime soon. Trump is basically Bush 2.0, and their supporters are the same. This always happens.

Unless something big happens, America will continue to crumble, figuratively and literally.

June 27, 2016 - 18:45

Joshua Brown

The difference has nothing to do with the candidates themselves or their policies:
Clinton is universally backed by the establishment and a PR cadre of influential SJW human shields/suicide bombers that will viciously whip any politician who defies her
Trump is universally despised by the establishment and under continual assault by countless influential groups who will viciously whip any politician who cooperates with or fails to denounce him

One will have an easy time doing evil things, the other will have a difficult time, that's it.

June 27, 2016 - 19:03

Luke Wright

Do you remember the Bush administration? Bush was Cheney and Rumsfeld's little meat puppet, doing everything the market for defense and oil wanted them to do.

Now Trump is not at all educated in anything related to the office he's campaigning for, neither was Bush. He'll surround himself with high positioned agreeable people who will, just as well, drive him like a meat puppet for other interests.

Do you think Trump will be any different? I'd argue that both come up with equally powerful ways of doing wrong, whether it be manipulated or purposeful.

That view is naive, that Trump would just be flowers and rainbows. It's still the world in neoliberalism. They're both shit, and nobody should vote.

June 27, 2016 - 19:06

Matthew Jackson

Mia Love isn't even going to the convention. She won't be Trump's VP.

June 27, 2016 - 19:09

Nathaniel James

The left was screeching almost as loud through most of Bush's reign (especially due to his coronationvictory), but the right was almost as loud in supporting him. Remember that in 2004 when Dean imploded and Democrats were running a "Not Bush/Not Cheney '04!" campaign that didn't even care about "our" candidates because we were trying so hard to unseat Bush, the RNC spun into overdrive and ramped up Republican turnout surged to meet it. Bush had virtually no enemies on the right worth mentioning.

Trump is completely different from Bush, because every single political faction with any organization whatsoever is united against him. Maybe the lobbyists and other shills will come crawling up to him for favors, but there is no scenario I can imagine where Trump could ever achieve the lockstep support Hillary has lined up right now.

June 27, 2016 - 19:16

Daniel Perry

And that's exactly what would make him capitulate in office. Let's be real, he doesn't believe he'll get any of this campaign machismo promising done in office either. He'll do it while satisfying the market, which is its own shade of destructive.

June 27, 2016 - 19:19

Jaxson Howard

But a shade which is both uncertain and in no way worse than what Clinton has the wheels greased for already.

June 27, 2016 - 19:24

Ethan Nelson

No it is certain. Capitulation is what Trump does, it's what he will do. He doesn't have any fucking ideal to fight for.

June 27, 2016 - 19:28

Dylan Edwards

...

June 27, 2016 - 19:34

Jordan Bell

I'm talking about the political environment that surrounds both of them, it's like choosing whether you want to be chased by a bear or a shark underwater.

June 27, 2016 - 19:45

Gabriel Long

They both are going to have equally shitty outcomes. The idea that nothing is going to happen ecause pressure is on Trump to capitulate is BS. It's just going to make him capitulate whatever dumb shit he mouthed off for support on the campaign.

Both capitulate, it's more like saying whether you want to be chased by a bear on land, and a shark underwater.

You shouldn't be so naive to think market stops because of someone's incompetence, they make them competent to the market. They make them kiss that fist. Trump has been a fist kisser for cash since his dad lent him a hundred million, shit will be no different now.

Hillary and Trump work for their own best interests and neither give a fuck about anyone or anything besides that fist they're kissing.

June 27, 2016 - 19:50

Nathan Cox

Not to mention, the amount of debt he's acquired over the campaign trail, there's no possible way Trump won't be slobbering and nursing over that cock to make up for everything after his term. He'll do his best to please them and work the way into getting positions that give him access to money he never had before.

It's fucking so transparent, and I don't see how anyone could fall for his fucking bullshit any different than Hillary's. They're both fucking cons, and they both will fuck us and everyone who works in this world over.

June 27, 2016 - 19:55

Jeremiah Perez

...

June 27, 2016 - 20:33

Jackson Baker

Original video?
Is it about the ol' ton of feathers vs ton of "heavier" substance?

June 27, 2016 - 20:37

Isaac Clark

youtube.com/watch?v=0ris5lVssz8

June 27, 2016 - 20:37

Charles Bailey

Holy shit that's great fam

June 27, 2016 - 20:44

Matthew Myers

You've got it all wrong fam, the majority of Trump voters say they don't really agree with him about racespooking and are voting for him for other reasons like "he's politically incorrect" or "stronk leedurr"

I remember this obnoxious twit I knew last year who literally went from calling Trump a fascist to wearing a Trump shirt over a weekend when Cruz conceded who insisted that Gore would've been worse than Bush, which would've been an amazing accomplishment.

June 27, 2016 - 20:48

Charles Gray

God Scottish chicks have sexy accents.
I want them to roll their Rs over my dick

June 27, 2016 - 20:49

Matthew Ward

I never understood why people saw her as "special". From the first day I heard her, before the election process began, I thought she was very suspicious and still part of the ugly political game. Then again, it's the social liberals we're talking about…

June 27, 2016 - 20:51

Austin Morris

Shillizabeth Whorren

June 27, 2016 - 21:14

John Howard

Give me one good reason anyone should be listening to this conman anymore. He fucking admitted himself that his trash economic theories resulted in the 2008 recession. Why is anyone giving him attention anymore?

June 27, 2016 - 21:33

Jace Wright

Greenspan just went in a circle if he's advocating a gold standard again. Gold, fiat, gold.

June 27, 2016 - 21:48

Nathaniel Thomas

It's like she's on meth since she endorsed Clinton. I swear, every time I see her now she's fucking spastic. I almost feel sorry for her because it's embarrassing. But then I remember what she's doing by being so "enthusiastic" for Hillary. Let her career crumble.

Good webum.

June 27, 2016 - 21:54

Nathaniel Parker

youtube.com/watch?v=WJaW32ZTyKE

Bernie wrecking Greenspan.

June 27, 2016 - 21:58

Connor Mitchell

theintercept.com/2016/06/27/private-prison-trump-clinton/
Clinton wins an endorsement from the private prison industry
#imwithher
#intersectionalism
#prisonsarefeminist

June 27, 2016 - 22:02

Juan Cruz

...

June 27, 2016 - 22:54

Blake Thompson

And this is the candidate Warren is supporting?

June 27, 2016 - 22:58

Michael Morris

As a green this pisses me off so much. Fuck this hack and the candidate he is backing.

June 27, 2016 - 23:01

Kevin Hernandez

...

June 27, 2016 - 23:07

Brandon Ross

I was behind Warren before. Though my eyebrow raised when I heard she wrote she was part Cherokee in order to get a job at Harvard, which came out during her MA senate campaign. Now watching the fact she's behind a candidate that Paulson supports shows me she is an absolute fake.

Looks like I can only look forward to Larence Lassig now.

June 27, 2016 - 23:15

Luke Stewart

...

June 27, 2016 - 23:18

Kevin Ramirez

no, if you live in any state you should vote for the third party candidate that is polling the highest.

It's time to take the dissapproval of these two candidates and use it as a device to take them down, or atleast eliminate this two party monopoly on political opinion.

June 27, 2016 - 23:21

Landon Walker

Hillary SO wants to be Obama 2008.

She does NOT want to be John Kerry 2004, or Al Gore year 2000.

And if she is Obama 2012 she will lose against Trump.

June 27, 2016 - 23:25

Jaxon Morales

I did a thing

June 27, 2016 - 23:44

Evan Sanders

It can't end there. Take out these two parties and they'll eventually just be replaced with others. We need to fight for an instant-runoff or ranked-choice voting system if we want more than two parties to ever be sustainable and powerful.

June 28, 2016 - 01:46

Jeremiah Ramirez

Left and right front runners are both hugely unpopular and have tons of baggage.
Why fall for the establishment media narrative of pretending they're the only choice.

June 28, 2016 - 01:58

Jonathan Parker

Frogmarch.. This is the first time I've ever heard this phrase.

June 28, 2016 - 02:08

Isaiah Watson

...

June 28, 2016 - 02:22

Lucas Harris

So I did a thing, Holla Forums. In the states colored purple, blue or light blue, Bernie won VERY narrowly, assuming a tie in California. Like, 50.2837189%. And I think I may be a few delegates short, not to mention California results aren't final. So no, Bernie didn't win the primary but he's got a very good argument for being more electable and in line with the party and whatnot.

June 28, 2016 - 07:06

Alexander Hernandez

I thought had to do with le smug frog man may may

June 28, 2016 - 07:51

Charles Morgan

Hillary DESPERATELY wants to be Obama. She wants that momentum. She wants that outpouring of love. She wants to be the driving force for a new generation of voters. She and the DNC fucked up though, since it's clear Sanders was the next Obama style candidate, and that fuck up is going to cost them the future of their party, starting with Philadelphia.

June 28, 2016 - 08:29

Julian Sanders

...

June 28, 2016 - 08:36

Jacob Hughes

wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-back-pedals-on-banning-muslims-from-u-s-1467058774
archive.is/KMmJ3
Trump Drinking Game: Take a shot everytime he backpedals or contradicts himself. Hopefully you'll die before November.

June 28, 2016 - 08:47

Elijah Evans

"B-BUT MUH DOWN BALLOT"

"MUH NEXT 5 YEARS HE GONNA GET A THOUSAND PROGRESSIVE CONGRESSMEN"

June 28, 2016 - 09:12

Ayden Morgan

I still don't see any source confirming that Sanders won California.

June 28, 2016 - 09:52

Thomas James

There aren't any yet, other than one of the ballot counters. It's an assumption.

bad post

June 28, 2016 - 10:55

Oliver Turner

...

June 28, 2016 - 10:57

Wyatt Peterson

This is a government plot to exterminate everyone on leftypol

June 28, 2016 - 10:58

Adam Foster

...

June 28, 2016 - 11:02

Benjamin Powell

Bernie Sanders: "Elections Come and Go, Revolutions Never End"
readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/37707-bernie-sanders-qelections-come-and-go-revolutions-never-endq

PERMANENT REVOLUTION

June 28, 2016 - 14:29

John Wilson

Quads confirm.

June 28, 2016 - 14:32

Jonathan Taylor

HAIL SATAN

June 28, 2016 - 14:45

Joseph Anderson

Right in the feels

June 28, 2016 - 14:50

Wyatt Perry

...

June 28, 2016 - 15:03

Jonathan Walker

youtube.com/watch?v=1m24eRQS4ng
6:08

RAGE

Rage on how stupid most Americans are. The comment section, too. Mein gott. I don't watch Bill Maher anymore for obvious reasons. I saw this in my recommended videos. Fuck that cunt from the Daily Beast. And Wilmore, not surprisingly, has also sold out.

June 28, 2016 - 15:09

Levi Mitchell

"Meanwhile, in the mainstream media.."

June 28, 2016 - 15:10

Dylan Butler

youtube.com/watch?v=-dY77j6uBHI

The only difference between Trump and any actual politician is that the media is quite happy to hand wave away the flip-flops or at the very least give them the benefit of the doubt

June 28, 2016 - 15:40

Jason Roberts

The spectacle is an Ouroboros

June 28, 2016 - 15:54

Jaxson Cooper

...

June 28, 2016 - 16:23

Jason Taylor

Some funny stuff twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/747924647790936064/photo/1

June 28, 2016 - 17:00

Henry Davis

Obviously I mean the comments, not the terrorist attack.

June 28, 2016 - 17:03

Zachary Hughes

youtube.com/watch?v=rRs1y2nDXTI
Bernie clarifying his statements on how he said he'd vote for Clinton if she was in the general.

The DNC & Clinton appointees also shitting all over Hillary's "supposed" platform, as we all knew would happen. Voting against blocking the TPP, against Universal/single payer Healthcare, among many others.

June 28, 2016 - 17:43

Levi White

That is the exact opposite of what I meant. Shillary is the shark, Trump is the bear, and PC-shielded neolibs/neocons are the water. Seek professional help.

Not to defend the coherence or sincerity of Trump's "platform", but his line on this issue was ALWAYS "halt Muslim immigration until a process can be established, then only let in people who've been vetted", it was NEVER "ban all Muslims, forever". WSJ being establishment shitflingers again.

smhtbhfampai

I can't believe, after us bros have been dumping all over her terrible platform, and she refused to incorporate anything from Sanders (all predictable) that the DNC platform Sanders' partisans theoretically had direct input on is actually WORSE than Clinton's. Liberals really never fail to disappoint, do they?

June 28, 2016 - 18:52

Michael Gonzalez

says a supporter of a party with their own shuddersome symbol.

June 28, 2016 - 19:26

Noah Smith

hillary stands with isis, big surprise

June 28, 2016 - 20:15

Jack Murphy

"If Bernie truly cared about enacting change, he would be on his knees sucking HRC`s toes. If he really wants to bring about change, it seems rational and smart to ally himself with the next POTUS, HRC. Clearly Bernie is all about Bernie. He doesn`t realize that you can`t save your a** and your face at the same time."

uegghhhhh i want to vomit
it's all the national newspapers like nyt and washpo, too- ctr doesn't bother with the little ones

June 28, 2016 - 20:26

Ian Watson

What could a more blatant name for media spin, disinformation spreading, and propaganda than correct the record?

June 28, 2016 - 22:06

Sebastian Harris

Fair and Balanced?

June 28, 2016 - 22:12

Juan Bennett

archive.is/SAQN8
politico.com/story/2016/06/trump-turkey-terrorism-224910

wjla.com/news/nation-world/trump-on-istanbul-airport-attack-we-have-to-do-something-at-our-borders-very-strongly

newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/06/28/trump-waterboarding-istanbul-attack/
archive.is/8xu2T

Trump reacts to the Istanbul bombing, calls for waterboarding of terrorists.

June 28, 2016 - 22:18

James Anderson

Anyone else heard of this class-action lawsuit against the DNC yet? I'm surprised I missed it.

jampac.us/DNCLawsuit/

June 29, 2016 - 00:30

Hunter Kelly

Here's a clearer source actually:

usuncut.com/resistance/bernie-sanders-supporters-are-suing-dnc/

June 29, 2016 - 00:32

Chase Walker

When Trump wins the election, he'll just call Putin up and have Russkie forces wipe these Islamic fuckers off the map. Meanwhile, he'll be closing our borders and shutting down Obama's "refugee program."

Oh, and by the way. So you guys know who really funded and armed the Islamic terrorists?

Seymour M. Hersh on US intelligence sharing in the Syrian war

archive.is/TWGfH
lrb.co.uk/v38/n01/seymour-m-hersh/military-to-military

FLASHBACK: US Govt Backed Plan to Launch Chemical Weapon Attack on Syria To Blame on Assad

archive.is/YNgd5
web.archive.org/web/20130129213824/http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2270219/U-S-planned-launch-chemical-weapon-attack-Syria-blame-Assad.html

Seymour Hersh Says Hillary Approved Sending Libya’s Sarin to Syrian Rebels

archive.is/zvNip
strategic-culture.org/news/2016/04/28/seymour-hersh-hillary-approved-sending-libya-sarin-syrian-rebels.html

Ex Marine Blows Whistle On Syrian False Flag And US-Israeli War Agenda

youtube.com/watch?v=5-Mc0ySVbxU

BUSTED! ISIS Armed with US Military-grade Weapons

archive.is/hZzlm
cnn.com/2015/12/08/politics/amnesty-international-isis-weapons-u-s-/

Hillary Clinton Received Secret Memo Stating Obama Admin Supporting ISIS

archive.is/d8ilV
breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/06/14/hillary-clinton-received-secret-memo-stating-obama-admin-support-for-isis/

Obama Admin Aided Group That Became ISIS to Control Area Where ISIS Formed Caliphate

archive.is/QCOog
breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/06/15/memo-received-by-clinton-obama-admin-aided-group-that-became-isis-to-control-area-where-isis-formed-caliphate/

June 29, 2016 - 01:06

Chase Perez

we're just not dumb enough to think that a richy richer is going to change a single thing
he benefits from the norm, you idiot

June 29, 2016 - 01:09

Isaiah Ward

If he stands by what he says, he'll be benefiting a whole lot of us, not just the norm.

June 29, 2016 - 01:11

Carter Hernandez

it's pretty hard to stand by a bunch of contradictory statements, budder
at best, i see him maybe stopping some of the usual push to the right out of petty anger at being told what to do by the republican party but he's not going to fix our economy and he's not going to solve america's horrible foreign policy

June 29, 2016 - 01:13

Ryder Barnes

He hasn't stood by a single fucking thing he's said this whole election you fucking idiot classcuck shitnigger.

June 29, 2016 - 01:29

Chase Campbell

If he stands by what he says we'll see WWIII by the time he leaves office.

June 29, 2016 - 01:29

Noah Gonzalez

washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/06/29/senate-poised-to-act-on-puerto-rico-debt-days-before-debt-cliff/
It passed.
I'll just go kill myself.

June 29, 2016 - 10:48

Owen Ward

Hello

June 29, 2016 - 12:15

Isaac Bailey

fivethirtyeight.com/features/donald-trump-has-a-20-percent-chance-of-becoming-president/
archive.is/ryIkP
Nate Silver, Omniscient mathematician and master of prediction, now says that Trump only has a One in Five chance of winning the general election.

What's the general consensus like in Puerto Rico right now? Like, is there any kind of active socialist organization there?

June 29, 2016 - 12:50

Lucas Wood

What is this bernout meme I've been seeing lately

June 29, 2016 - 12:54

Austin Adams

Pretty low class consciousness, but high suspicion of social institutions. We've got the Socialist Front and the Worker's Socialist Movement, which publishes a minor paper called Bandera Roja. And sure enough since the day this bill was drafted it's been the best thing independentist and socialist groups could ask for.

June 29, 2016 - 14:29

Lincoln Cooper

bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-36664752
Donald Trump says "I like waterboarding"
Socialism or Barbarism man, socialism or barbarism.

June 29, 2016 - 15:45

Juan Allen

Hey comr8s, who else /despair/ in here? I have some student debt (not as exorbitant as others though. I was careful about that), my mother is sick and the doctors can't find what's wrong with her, and at this rate I'll have to ask for gibsme just to live. I would love to give the middle finger to Clinton. She really doesn't deserve the presidency for everything she has done in this campaign and in the past too, but Trump said he thinks the minimum wage is too high for the US to remain competitive and while Sanders is better in every issue, if (and when at this rate) Clinton becomes the nominee and then president she will raise the minimum wage to $12 while Trump is a republican. Even though Trump was somewhat liberal before this campaign, just being around Republicans means that there's a chance that not only the minimum wage stagnates or decreases, but also to cut gibsmedat which are going to be my only salvation at this rate. I know that Clinton is a neocon republican in the democratic party, but if she at least does one of those 2 things (keep or increase gibsme and raise minimum wage) she will literally save my life, as much as I hate to owe her anything.

Sorry for the blogpost but I really needed to vent out. I've been walking around in circles in my room planning what to do and drinking gallons of water to calm myself. Anyways, here's some hos for you guys.

June 29, 2016 - 16:21

Adam Harris

Raising the minimum wage is *LIKELY* going to lead to inflation of all prices. The first two months it'll be fine and dandy, then it'll be almost as if nothing happened.

June 29, 2016 - 16:31

Lincoln Williams

Even in capitalist terms, giving people better wages is the only way to have a working economy.

Except for, porky gets less profit.

June 29, 2016 - 16:38

Parker Fisher

M9 I need to pay this apartment somehow and my 3rd world country did raise the min wage in small interbals and nothing happened yet. I'm not an economist but I need to hang onto something, anything, that could relieve this situation.

If that's not an option then the gibsme are still there.

June 29, 2016 - 16:39

William Long

I said *likely*

with higher wages, production costs for the owners rise, hence your more consumer power is *likely* to dissolve into the background sooner or later.

June 29, 2016 - 16:40

Jaxson Johnson

Yeah that's one possible outcome.

You can always change your job, what are you currently working as?

June 29, 2016 - 16:42

Nolan Morales

Ye, most products are mass produced and the prices are rarely high because of high production costs. Mostly they are high cause they can be high.

June 29, 2016 - 16:43

Kayden Thompson

Look famdude, don't feel bad for supporting Clinton.

Wew jew, you may not realize it but this is the same argument Lolbertarians make. It's not going to be 1:1 income increase all around the board so inflation won't be 1:1 with increase in income.

June 29, 2016 - 16:44

Oliver Taylor

Considering Clinton's presidency will most likely help reveal the contradictions of capitalism and increase class-consciousness, don't feel bad for supporting her.

Just don't put much faith in her either.

June 29, 2016 - 16:46

Levi Lee

Flipping burgers. I tried to apply to home depot, office depot and a big costumer service company but no one called me. The costume service comp. left me hanging because they said I only needed to pass drug test to start work but always posponed the drug test date and never gave me a clear start date either.

June 29, 2016 - 16:47

Isaac Baker

Oh oh oh! I forgot, it's not so much about production costs increasing but operational costs for retailers and so on. That's likely where you'll see first-hand increase in prices, specially on smaller retail stores.

Who you calling a jew you double nigger? In any case, I'm aware of this and I'm not using it as an argument against rising the min wage specifically, I'm just trying to put this into consideration.

June 29, 2016 - 16:48

Hunter Bennett

It's like the reserve army of labor is too damn high, or something.

June 29, 2016 - 16:49

Jeremiah Gutierrez

Holy shit, I'm sorry to hear that KEK.

Don't apply for hueg stores, that sucks the living fuck out of you, try for something smaller, tech sales can be pretty neat if they give salesmen a % of what they sell. They usually want people who hound after money like that.

June 29, 2016 - 16:51

Samuel Lopez

Know when prices rose in Greece?
When 100 Drachmas and not 300, became 1 euro. Why? Cause they could do it.

Nowadays the VAT is rising and MAGICALY the bourgies can "absorb" it.

It's like they can all agree on a "minimum price" to increase profit, or something…

June 29, 2016 - 16:52

Camden Martinez

Crap I accidentally erased my argument for why you should support Clinton with your mouth and vote Stein with your hands (or Clinton should you live in a purple state).

It's because she will do a lot more for you and us than Trump will. Trump will end trade deals and that's literally fucking all he will do. He MIGHT end trade deals. He will be the cuckservative's cuck as soon as he steps into the oval office complete with ball gag, and deep down we all know it.

June 29, 2016 - 16:54

Juan Ramirez

I dunno, Clinton would obviously be better in the short term, because she won't propose as many inane tax-the-poor-feed-the-rich domestic economic plans (though the ones she does propose would pass easier than any he did). But she'd probably be worse in the long term, since Trump might throw a monkeywrench in the neolib offshoring/immigration and neocon war embezzling that have been destroying our economy since the 1970s.

The primary purpose of minimum wage isn't to provide employees subject to them with decent pay, it's to force parasitic employers out of the labor market. Any inflation is compensated for by the fact that parasitic employers aren't being subsidized by market externalities (such as gibsmedats and consumer debt) through their full-time employees:
prospect.org/article/confronting-parasite-economy

June 29, 2016 - 17:04

Sebastian Perry

He IS a neocon. Being against the Iraq War isn't not being a neocon. Look at his comments on torture.

June 29, 2016 - 17:08

Angel Sullivan

only if you believe Trump will follow through with any of his promises.
And if you believe that you're probably an idiot.

June 29, 2016 - 17:10

Ayden Reed

There is a 100% chance Clinton will (as she has always promised) continue and worsen these policies, there is a

June 29, 2016 - 17:14

Carter Baker

What state are you from? If your state isn't contested and Hillary will take it regardless of how you individually vote, consider going for third-party like Greens. They're obviously not going to win, but their policies are in line with what seems to be your ongoing concerns (alleviating the ethical concern of supporting Hillary) and, if I remember correctly, the party is eligible to receive federal funding like they other two parties if they get at least 15% of the popular vote. At the very least, 15% polling numbers gets them into debates, which forces them into greater public view.

June 29, 2016 - 17:14

Chase Sanders

Wew I read this in the comment section of Sanders NYT Op-ed.
It was called America lmao

June 29, 2016 - 17:17

Jaxson Perry

fix'd

June 29, 2016 - 17:21

Aiden Torres

That's even easier, China, Russia, India, Brazil, South Africa, South Korea and Venezuela just off the top of my head.

June 29, 2016 - 17:24

Austin Price

Scratch Venezuela.

June 29, 2016 - 17:24

Juan Young

All of them are still poverty-stricken hellholes for the average citizen

June 29, 2016 - 17:25

Brandon Reed

South Korea is a poverty-stricken hellhole? K
That is true, but they're still evidence it can be done.

June 29, 2016 - 17:27

Gabriel Reyes

>"Talk is cheap, Bernie. How about endorsing Hillary instead of playing hard to get? At least Elizabeth Warren has figured out that the best way to beat Trump (and to move a Democratic agenda forward) is actually to help elect a Democrat."
The issue here is "Democratic agenda". The Democratic agenda is shit, something these people with an Americentric view of politics don't understand.

June 29, 2016 - 17:31

Christian Lopez

I love this fucking strawman, apparently opposing sweatshops and immigrant slave labor means you want to cancel all trade agreements with the rest of the world.

June 29, 2016 - 17:39

Lincoln Bell

Texas m8. I know nothing about contested states or whatever. I would like to help the greens get into debates and get funding because they would improve my situation more than Clinton, but I literally can't afford not to get those $12 wage or gibsme. I'm even uncertain if something's going to happen with my mother and she also works and helps dealing with the house bills. If something happens to her not only it would be an emotional blow but it would also leave me even in more need of that help.

June 29, 2016 - 17:39

Grayson Mitchell

Didn't those countries grow by exporting to developed countries?

June 29, 2016 - 17:42

Kayden Cooper

Did they actually replace her with a robot or skinchanger or something? What the fuck? How does somebody act so stilted?

June 29, 2016 - 17:53

Isaac Sullivan

c-span.org/video/?c4608287/senator-bernie-sanders-speaks-puerto-rico-debt-restructuring-bill
Just fuck my territory up fam

June 29, 2016 - 17:54

Jack Gutierrez

kick everyone in the head who unironically says "berniebros"

June 29, 2016 - 18:11

Connor Howard

Can do!

t. congress

June 29, 2016 - 18:15

Kevin White

...

June 29, 2016 - 18:15

Logan Ramirez

Then you'll love this one.

Eventually but that's not how they started off, save India. But before and after British rule it was another story.
Have some more of this bullshit.
>It's long past time that you get behind the only candidate who realistically stands between us and a Trump presidency: Hillary Clinton. Anything less and you risk being America's Jeremy Corbyn, whose half-hearted opposition to Brexit may have helped usher in the demise of the Labour Party and perhaps the United Kingdom itself.
>What a small small man with a big big ego Bernie must be. Does he imagine that Democrats are unaware of the points he is making in this op ed? His reluctance to mention Hillary is beyond petty.
No, he just knows they don't care. Take a look at how the Hill's delegates to the Convention Committee voted
>Sadly you can see some of the problems but you're clueless about solutions. I say some of the problems because you fail to see that bigotry mostly in the formula of racism is behind most of the unrest in America. And on the left we have your form of bigotry. Yes, you're a bigot. You have a rigid, narrow-minded view of the world and who's to blame. You rant against everything. You're even ranting against Democrats after joining their party in an effort to become President. Don't come into someone else's house and start complaining about their rules. It's rude and it tells us who you are. I wouldn't have you in my house any more than I'd have Trump.
Gene from Florida cracking it down on the federal government official you guys better fucking listen up oh shit
wew: the post
Also I'm sick of all this white-bashing and ageism regarding Bernie, literally makes me sick at this point. Especially since he's neither white nor all that old. And I'm tired of "he's helping Trump!!!" which is true on exactly zero levels, but not sick. Yet.
k some good posts then i'm done dumping these

June 29, 2016 - 18:19

Jason Sanchez

Good posts.
Good post, mostly

June 29, 2016 - 18:20

Lincoln Martin

theintercept.com/2016/06/29/trump-team-tpp/

June 29, 2016 - 18:21

Carter Wood

...

June 29, 2016 - 18:24

Joseph Williams

I forgot to bold Gene from Florida calling class consciousness "bigotry"

June 29, 2016 - 18:26

Brayden Foster

I love how most defenses of Clinton, the Democratic Party and their tactics/positions generally have nothing to do with their actual positions and is generally something unrelated
Which is especially ironic considering they love to invoke right-wink attacks against Bernie (or anyone to the left of them honestly)

June 29, 2016 - 18:31

Charles Jones

Hint: it's because you can't defend Hillary. Especially her "stances" on PROMESA and TPP.
But trust me, her stans literally don't understand what people don't like about her. They go on the internet and see people bashing her and zone out trying to figure out what in the world people could dislike about her before eventually hours later settling on "GOP trolls" or "sexist" as if the GOP is smart enough to pull that off (the Trump campaign is but they aren't). These are invariably the triple chumps that have way too much faith in government and don't see why people don't trust her. You know the ones I'm talking about. They don't worry themselves with foreign policy because it's not immediately relevant and what's on TV says it's self defense and what needs to be/should be done, and certainly not PROMESA because it doesn't affect them. And free trade is good! We want TPP!

In short, they're too fucking stupid to understand why not to support her, and the Democratic party has told them to support her and so they do. Also wymman, and also also the cult of personality she's been building up for 25 years.

June 29, 2016 - 18:38

Michael Thompson

V might want to see this…

June 29, 2016 - 18:38

Jonathan Thomas

And for the record this is why many SJWs are an asset to us and not a hindrance. They tend to understand class politics, they just don't care as much as we do, and better yet they have a distrust of centrist politics.

June 29, 2016 - 18:39

Jordan Flores

The problem with the modern left is that their economic grievances mostly line up with ours but they attribute them to the wrong source. We see capitalism as the problem, they see racism, homophobia, or other idpol bs

June 29, 2016 - 18:41

Mason Martin

Yeah that pretty much describes most liberals

They'll jump through hoops to defend their Empress but all opposition from the left can be handwaved away with right-wing talking points, if not simple accusations of sexism.

June 29, 2016 - 18:43

Elijah Carter

I hate Hillary and I hate Trump, but I really don't fucking want Trump to be president. This hurts. This election is the worst, I'd rather it just be two fucking bland neoliberals going at it than this. At least people would be more united than believing this fucking idiot is any better than Hillary.

I hope in the future people look at this time in the internet and cringe, but I'm not hopeful

June 29, 2016 - 18:44

Christian Diaz

I'm not voting, I don't think anyone should vote

June 29, 2016 - 18:44

Isaiah Gomez

No, I've seen many blatantly anticapitalist SJWs, and certainly no free market apologists. They just don't understand how central it is to the whole thing.

June 29, 2016 - 18:58

Daniel Garcia

No, they don't understand it. They honestly think offshoring helps the global poor, rather than solidifying the grasp of plutocratic tyrants abroad. They really believe immigration will help, rather than benefiting only the tiny fraction that can escape, and doing less than nothing for the majority left behind. Many (not all, but a worrying number) even support our clumsy military interventions of late. They honestly think the American working class are irrelevant and decadent, little realizing that the victories of the working class everywhere help fuel labor agitation worldwide. Worst of all, they counter viciously and at every opportunity the efforts of real leftists to help anyone.

They're the equivalent of the medieval Catholic church, whose words exalted the spiritual superiority of the poor and wretched masses over the rich and comfortable few, but whose actions did everything in their power to materially cement the domination of those "spiritual destitutes" at the top and deepen the privation of the "spiritually rich" at the bottom.

The degree of classcucking among SJWs is, on an ideological basis, IMHO worse and more harmful than any rightist.

No, this election is good, it's the the wheels falling off the 2-party system. With any luck, something like Britain's Labor Party coup will happen, and we insurgents will take control of our own destiny.

June 29, 2016 - 18:59

Justin Evans

We won't be rid of a 2-party system until we have proportional representation (extremely unlikely) or instant-runoff/ranked-choice voting reform (doable).

June 29, 2016 - 19:21

Jack King

True, but the first step to getting that done is to pack the dominant parties' representatives with people willing to let go of the security FPTP grants them. The only other plausible strategy is to attack FPTP at the local/state level, particularly through referenda in the states which allow them. If my reading of the constitution is correct, it might even be possible for changes in state constitutions to eliminate FPTP for federal congressmen (though not the president) without having to touch the federal constitution.

June 29, 2016 - 21:10

Sebastian Wilson

Yeah I think the chances of packing congress with people whose views go against their own interests are pretty slim. The only way voting reform is going to happen is coming from the bottom up. Much like getting corporate and wealthy money out of politics, this is probably going to have to come from state referenda.

June 29, 2016 - 21:33

Jeremiah Baker

Fuck Democracy to begin with. It's clear the people don't know what's healthy for themselves. Listening to them to achieve our own ends, or having any kind of trust in Democracy or the liberals, it's pointless. We've done enough listening in our lives.

June 29, 2016 - 21:39

Mason Sanders

welcome to the Dark Enlightenment, brother

June 30, 2016 - 01:43

Juan Green

fuck them too

June 30, 2016 - 01:47

Hudson Brown

...

June 30, 2016 - 06:51

Logan Young

Kek. The blackness of your flag, you will give it to me now.

June 30, 2016 - 06:58

Gavin Perry

Perhaps bordigism then?

June 30, 2016 - 09:55

Brody Roberts

Did anyone actually say that? I watched the Senate hearings yesterday and didn't see any of that. Or is that all pundit crap?

June 30, 2016 - 10:02

Kevin Scott

Pundit crap. But like, B-list pundit crap. Not even the well-known free market shills were shilling that one.
Also I guess I'm turning into a nationalist because seeing a bunch of redneck trash saying things like "Liberty for PR, followed by foreign aid of about a dollar/day/month for every PR native. Cut welfar, invite PP down there to hlep with abortions. In about 150 years this useless little island might become solvent, maybe… Really, we got it as reparations from the Spanish, and boy were they glad to let it go. Originally we needed it for military reasons. Now, not at all! I've been there, and it's NOT a part of the USA, it's welfare island. Give them independence and foreign aid, it will be cheaper. WE don't owe them anything…." or "Pull the ungrateful plug, let it sink. they had their chance. They turned back on statehood, we should turn back on any further connections with this foreign nation. No different from Mexico. Treat this dead weight the same. No breaks." or "Can't we sell them to the lowest bidder or give them to China to help pay off our debt?"
and other miscellanea like "they don't pay federal tax so I don't care" makes me want to vomit

June 30, 2016 - 11:37

Isaac Watson

State or not, I kinda' wonder if the corporate dictatorshipadministrator thing is even constitutional. If somebody challenges it in Puerto Rico and wins, it might set a precedent against other examples like Detroit.

Also, thinking of Puerto Rico's woes, my mind can't help but wander to Hawaii (somewhat economically subpar as states go, but not doing horribly) in terms of history and current structure.

June 30, 2016 - 12:02

Nicholas Brown

archive.is/sBtCP
Barack Obama has made America great again

June 30, 2016 - 13:14

Jeremiah Evans

reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-albania-clinton-idUSKCN0ZG21U
A town in Albania is honoring Shillary with a Bronze Statue.
Hoxha would be ashamed.

June 30, 2016 - 14:53

Joshua Fisher

I haven't been paying too much attention to mainstream media coverage of the election this past month or so, but has anyone else noticed that the media has almost completely shifted away from fear mongering about Donald Trump now that Clinton is the nominee?

June 30, 2016 - 14:54

Jeremiah Parker

Didn't Albania also suck Bush's dick too for a while?

June 30, 2016 - 14:55

Evan Long

thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/economy-budget/278439-an-unconstitutional-oversight-board-for-puerto-rico
Maybe not. A SC decision would have to be overturned though.

June 30, 2016 - 15:04

Kevin Cooper

The Obama admin has killed more people than the Bush admin.

Obama never did formal declarations of war on TV, and Bush was good at making himself look stupid, so of course ordinary schmoes in the EU will perceive Obama as the intelligent, peaceful president in comparison.

June 30, 2016 - 15:35

Jack Howard

About to meet Jill Stein. What should I ask her?

June 30, 2016 - 15:45

Anthony Gutierrez

if you can fug her

June 30, 2016 - 15:45

Brody Hall

No

June 30, 2016 - 15:47

Grayson Rogers

I'd be curious to see if she personally believes a move away from capitalism is necessary and also what she thinks of the future of automation.

June 30, 2016 - 15:49

Jacob Roberts

I think I'll ask her what she thinks of the anti-capitalism amendment the green party adopted.

June 30, 2016 - 15:51

Jordan Wilson

Excellent.

June 30, 2016 - 15:53

Austin Allen

ask her if bernie has talked to her

June 30, 2016 - 15:55

Isaac Clark

Second

June 30, 2016 - 16:03

Charles Baker

But she isn't.

June 30, 2016 - 16:16

Jose Wood

This, really curious.

June 30, 2016 - 16:17

Jonathan Bell

I'll ask this too

June 30, 2016 - 16:20

Nathan Lewis

Ask her if she supports the green party amendment to make it anti-capitalist

June 30, 2016 - 16:21

Dylan Morgan

Pay attention, comrade

June 30, 2016 - 16:23

Juan Anderson

ask her if she supports worker-owned businesses and cooperatives.

June 30, 2016 - 17:35

Gabriel Cox

reddit.com/r/politics/comments/4ql7bk/more_clinton_emails_released_including_some_she/

Newly leaked docs: guccifer2.wordpress.com/2016/06/30/faq/

June 30, 2016 - 18:05

Jaxson Allen

I was only able ask Jill Stein one question, so I asked her about the amendment. She said the "so-called anti-capitalist" amendment was long over due. Afterwards, I tried ask her about rojava while gettIng a selfie but she didn't know what i was talking about.

June 30, 2016 - 18:23

Henry Stewart

Whatever, I'll still vote for her if the FBI doesn't save us. This is still unforgivable.

June 30, 2016 - 18:30

Kevin Gonzalez

well that's disappointing.
Still, the fact that she endorsed the anti-capitalist amendment is a good sign.

June 30, 2016 - 18:32

Cameron Fisher

Any questions about her positions? She said she was for "restorative justice" whatever that is.

June 30, 2016 - 18:40

Owen Reed

Keep in mind that it's an imageboarder asking the question, it might've just been badly worded.

June 30, 2016 - 18:44

Ayden Gomez

Probably that reparations crap that's been on her Twitter account before.

June 30, 2016 - 19:12

Jaxson Allen

Hey I actually have Tourette's and I stutter, so consider me triggered

June 30, 2016 - 19:31

Jayden Williams

politicususa.com/2016/06/29/trump-hit-fec-complaint-illegal-fundraising-foreign-nationals.html
cnn.com/2016/06/29/politics/donald-trump-fundraising-foreign-emails/
bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-06-29/trump-campaign-broke-law-by-soliciting-foreign-donations-complaint-alleges
The FEC might investigate Trump for begging foreign politicians for money.

June 30, 2016 - 20:09

Blake Murphy

I hope Trump and Hillary both scrape it almost to their respective conventions and then go up in flames anyway. Fucking torch both of them, Obama. I don't like you and I never will for what you did to my country but I will R E S P E C T you if you go nuclear and/or allow your underlings to go nuclear on both of them. Bonus points for at the same time, and extra bonus points for before the convention. And from out of the dust will rise Cruz-Kasich (or Cruz-Fiorina but we all know that was just a stunt) (or possibly Cruz-Johnson, to counter Cruz's moralfaggotry) if the Republicans manage to hold themselves together (Libertarian if they don't) and Sanders-Warren/Stein/Turner/Gabbard/Ijustrealizedallofthesearewomensodefinitelysomesortofwomanwhichwouldstillbeafirstasfaraswomensprogressgoes if the Democrats survive and more or less the same if they don't. It will be delicious. I want to watch. Obama plis.

June 30, 2016 - 20:25

Jayden Wood

reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4qmff2/the_milenial_generation_is_a_perfect_fit_for/
Was on reddit seeing if the bernie sub was still alive and found this. Possible class consciousness in the comments?

June 30, 2016 - 20:35

Carson Ward

a.k.a rehabilitative justice, as opposed to punitive justice. Basically criminal justice reform.

June 30, 2016 - 20:44

Asher Sanders

Don't know about you guys, but #ImWithHer. Hillary may be against everything I ostensibly stand for, but Drumpf said mean things about brown people, and that obviously matters more.

June 30, 2016 - 20:56

Mason Gutierrez

Can you fuck off? Adults are speaking.

June 30, 2016 - 20:56

Andrew Parker

Also who even pays for these Trump ads? Nothing else is ever down there. Who has this much money?

June 30, 2016 - 20:57

Ayden Martinez

probably trump himself

June 30, 2016 - 20:58

Connor Torres

leftypol pls

June 30, 2016 - 21:00

Joseph Kelly

That sellout's career is going down in flames now.

June 30, 2016 - 21:00

Zachary Cruz

this is bait

this is not how you deal with bait

June 30, 2016 - 21:02

Angel Flores

Oh, tru. That would actually make boatloads of sense, we already know he has shills everywhere.

Your next line is: "u mad? le salt"

arinhansonlookman.ogg I don't think Warren's a sellout. She's just trying to advance her (barely left of the Democratic party median but whatever) agenda in a less abrasive way than Sanders. She thinks she can get it done under any Democrat. She's wrong, but it's the way she sees forward. She knew it was going to be rigged to shit and back on Sanders and she wasn't willing to do something she knew could only hurt her influence and standing in the party and on its agenda, she complemented him plenty of times. She's definitely wymmanspooked, but if she was a sellout she would've whined about Berniebros.

Hidden, I don't care.

June 30, 2016 - 21:05

Parker Bell

Do you have any idea how gay you sound when you use the word slurs?

June 30, 2016 - 21:15

Oliver Thomas

Stop taking the bait, mr. trips man

June 30, 2016 - 21:20

Levi Wright

Ask her why she shaved the "berg" off her name, we all know she's a Jew.

June 30, 2016 - 21:21

Gavin Peterson

And when everyone looses their collective shit because of the question, you scream "INTRODUCING LINGUISTIC ANARCHO-POSADISM!"
A

June 30, 2016 - 21:26

Nathaniel Ward

update?

June 30, 2016 - 21:28

Henry Parker

Come on guys, what are your Hillvote rationalizations going to be?

Lesser of two evils? At least she has Warren? Yay globalism? Share you faggots.

June 30, 2016 - 21:36

Dominic Powell

Not voting for her.

June 30, 2016 - 21:40

Tyler Gonzalez

...

June 30, 2016 - 21:44

Austin Moore

But if you don't vote Drumpf will win! And his supporters are racist white gun owners! The PEEOHHCEEE are counting on you user.

June 30, 2016 - 22:06

Brody Torres

I think you're in the wrong place. Try twitter/tumblr/reddit to get the reaction you want.

June 30, 2016 - 22:14

Michael Thomas

I think he's just yolking around, friend. Nobody says that when they're serious.

June 30, 2016 - 22:15

Owen Young

Hard to say, Holla Forumslacks are funny sometimes, but actual stormniggers take themselves seriously.

June 30, 2016 - 22:44

Michael Fisher

...

June 30, 2016 - 22:50

Sebastian Stewart

Since this is somewhat functioning as a "current events" thread and because the board is being spammed by an autist right now, I'll post this here.

youtube.com/watch?v=CKasUm77D0U

It was nice knowing you all.

June 30, 2016 - 22:55

Angel Collins

I don't know if I have a .jpg for this

June 30, 2016 - 22:58

Brody Cox

George Noory recently talked about the video/news and you can see it has attracted quite an interesting crowd to the comment section.

June 30, 2016 - 23:02

Kevin Phillips

I'm only being slightly facetious.

What are you actually going to do if Bernie is obviously DOA come November? If you vote for that satanic harridan I will lose whatever minimal respect I have remaining for you guys as opponents.

June 30, 2016 - 23:04

Chase Sanders

Most of us are likely going to vote Green regardless of what Bernie suggests and work on alternative ways of supporting change within the US seeing as reformism doesn't seem to be working.

June 30, 2016 - 23:06

Henry Stewart

I don't get into local politics as they're a mess.

National politics are well beyond the power of a hundred votes, let alone a single vote.

I'm indifferent to the election, but I admire what an amazing circus it's been.

I think Hillary will be a capable president, and admire her Hawk Lobby credentials as "bomb the fuck out of them" has been a tried & true methodology, and we finally have NATO on the run from us.

The long-con was worth it to see their shit eating grins.

There really isn't a need to when she's a shoe-in to win.

July 1, 2016 - 05:34

Sebastian White

I still can't really believe people think American people are going to go and droves to vote in Trump. It's just not going to happen.

July 1, 2016 - 05:38

Landon James

Oh, wow, you are seriously underestimating how much people hate SJWs and don't give a shit about their issues.

My cousin's wife, a black woman with a phd in physics, regularly uses me as a pressure valve to talk about how much her racist black colleges piss her off and how white muh privilege theory is a bunch of petty racist bullshit. She also loves her fashion magazines, and loathes the new brand of feminism. She finds 'Black Lives Matter' offensive.

Everybody I know, 'left' or 'right', feels the same way privately. They all hate this bullshit.

People on the 'left' loathe SJWs. People on the 'right' loathe SJWs. Everybody stays quiet because they're afraid of being socially attacked by SJWs or even losing their jobs.

If everybody hates SJWs, and Trump is the only anti-SJW candidate, then who do you think they're going to vote for?

July 1, 2016 - 05:50

Chase Stewart

Did you just get born yesterday or are you really this fucking naive? Oh my gosh

July 1, 2016 - 05:52

Alexander Hill

>youtube.com/watch?v=HClEOrbwVHM&feature=youtu.be
Thoughts on this Holla Forums?

July 1, 2016 - 05:53

Elijah Jones

I am astounded by your sound logical arguments. You have convinced me completely on the error of my empirical experience.

July 1, 2016 - 05:57

Jayden Rivera

Not that guy, but brits literally votet the brexit over internet meme tier arguments.

The result was that no one had any idea what to do once the leave vote won, except abusing some polacks in the street.

I think you're underestimating how Holla Forums has actually a very mainstream and populist point of view, and that is the general discontent that has generated Holla Forums like thoughts, not the opposite.

The problem is, of course, is that Holla Forumsacks and platforms that exploit populism to gain votes and seats literally have no idea what to do. They KNOW there's a problem, but they don't really want to admit that it's capitalism.

July 1, 2016 - 05:59

Ayden Perry

Are you the "anarcha-feminista" goober from the other thread? Who are you voting for? Are you required to vote Hilldawg for frumpy lesbian solidarity?

Educate this lowly male feminista senpai.

July 1, 2016 - 06:01

Gabriel Smith

Still, Trump and Brexit are different. The polls for Brexit always showed clear equal levels of support, it could go either way.

For the past month Trump has been shedding voters faster than he can gain them, and his support is dropping fast.

Nobody because I'm not a fucking idiot? How the fuck can you think Hillary is "better" than Trump, or Trump "better" than Hillary?

You have to be gullible as fuck to zealously defend either as if they're in your interest.

July 1, 2016 - 06:08

Joseph Reyes

Noice, I get to choose between a neo-liberal porky and another neo-liberal porky.

July 1, 2016 - 06:15

Nathan Baker

If Trump wins great. If Hillary wins, maybe the road war starts early. Either way I'm happy.

Immigration restriction is demonstrably beneficial to white Americans and the working class in particular. Bernie even admitted this before he started shamelessly cucking himself to throw the race for Shillary.

July 1, 2016 - 06:16

Carter Martin

Hahahahahahahahaha you actually believe trump is going to follow through with half his shit and isn't going to try and appease everyone for that mad post-administration cash and market dealings

July 1, 2016 - 06:20

Kayden Rivera

A fool who believes a fucking joke spouting foolish shit that just turns out to be faux promises and lies, a corner stone of American ineptitude

July 1, 2016 - 06:22

Ryder Jones

Better to vote for someone who promises to not to fuck you over, than someone who promises to fuck you over.

Wow, the pointless insulting and baiting. It's like a train wreck.

Your SJW levels are over 9000!

(Preempting the 'No you!')

July 1, 2016 - 06:29

Juan Smith

Why on earth wouldn't he? The man obviously has a planet-sized ego and he's already a billionaire. He has no reason to taint his legacy by cucking, especially when he already had ample opportunity to do so during the primary.

On the other hand if he does let us down, all his betrayed supporters don't just vanish. They go farther right and swell our ranks.

This election is going to be glorious for us regardless of the outcome.

July 1, 2016 - 06:29

Hunter Ross

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha holy shit you actually think Trump gives a fuck about anyone in America.

He doesn't, he hates most of you.

July 1, 2016 - 06:30

Gavin Watson

Please tell me you're not this naive

July 1, 2016 - 06:31

Isaac Myers

Trump? Lying?

Say it ain't so!

July 1, 2016 - 06:32

Jaxon Ward

The same reason why Berlusconi didn't do anything at all in Italy: Because he only cares about getting there, then the various lobbies and group of interest will dictate their policies to him.

Don't forget he was a democrat less than 10 years ago m8. He's an opportunist.

July 1, 2016 - 06:34

Brody Gray

Trump loves the cheap labor that immigrants provide?

If he cared so much about the white working class he would not have sent all his factories overseas in the first place.

Also lets not forget that his he has nearly flip flopped on every issue by now.

July 1, 2016 - 06:34

Jayden Cooper

stay mad, cuck

July 1, 2016 - 06:36

Josiah Edwards

Meme magic ain't real, bucko.

July 1, 2016 - 06:38

Zachary Rogers

I am not as stupid as you are. Please understand

July 1, 2016 - 06:41

Jayden Perez

I still have hope for you feminista. Get /fit/ and shave those legs. Somewhere in the Trumpenstafl your husbando awaits.

July 1, 2016 - 06:46

Isaiah Morgan

I'm already dating a nice girl I don't think a fat autismal neckbeard who honest to god believes anything Trump says would be that satisfying compared

July 1, 2016 - 06:47

Caleb Morgan

lol lesbianism isn't even real.

July 1, 2016 - 06:58

Ethan White

Neither is your love life

July 1, 2016 - 07:00

Brandon Gutierrez

Dammit, why must I find you so agreeable all of a sudden.

If you think he is consistent, or honest- you're in for an upset.

However, he supposedly did start out as a member of the populist party originally, and he often uses the word "nigger" in private. So he might be hold to some of his nativist policies, if he's able to.

But, it's one of those "believe it when we see it" type of problems, we just don't know.

Except, we do know he's used tactics in his business practices that would, if used during his presidential term, would make him a fascist employing thugs to settle his concerns.

The legacy of a president will stand regardless of action because it's a coveted title, just achieving it is enough, regardless of his number of terms or the legacy it leaves behind.

So his ego won't push him to be the best, as he already knows it's self evident, and will have the title to prove it; as "leader of the free world."

His name is, but he himself is not a "billionaire."

That notion is just floated along because he appraises his name to be worth that amount, but there's no real proof he has all that money as his own.

He's certainly not liquid.

No one can say with any certainty what his true monetary worth is. It's all speculative.

archive.is/ndtRk

Lastly; he wants to bring back coal and fraking.

July 1, 2016 - 07:10

Asher Allen

That moment when you're reading the election thread and you realize a bunch of people from r/socialism post what they really feel here, but cuck themselves on reddit because mods will ask you threatening questions and ban you immediately if you disagree.

The circle is complete; it's all an illusion. The dialectic has made the universe whole once again.

July 1, 2016 - 07:22

Jayden Roberts

It's hard to make predictions when the election comes down to who the voters despise more or less.

On the one hand Trump is a slimy scumbag, but he seems to be perceived as less of a slimy scumbag than Clinton in general because his sliminess is in the realm of business which makes it less bad, while Clinton is a career politician with a history of political scummyness which the public has been conditioned to take as a matter of course for politicians, which only makes it worse for her.

There seems to be a strong perception that they're both liars, but that Trump's lies are the lies of a salesman in service of profit (which is bad but not too bad) while Clinton's lies are in the service of whatever she actually secretly wants as a politician (which is way worse).

July 1, 2016 - 07:27

Dylan Taylor

Yeah, like I said, cautious optimism. Plan for the worst.

Only until I carry you off as my war bride.

July 1, 2016 - 07:40

Hunter White

This, pretty much.

However some speculations of arisen in regards to Clinton's mental health.

She suffered a brain injury that's left her as a compulsive liar. It's not just her political persona, she might not have full control over what she says.

Not everyone wades into that cesspool.

Besides, I have all these tempting far-right cesspools to avoid until temptation strikes.

freerepublic.com/

bellgab.com/

Hoping for the best but expecting the worst. Are you gonna drop the bomb or not?

July 1, 2016 - 07:43

Dylan Bell

My girlfriend would shoot you with at least ten guns sorry

July 1, 2016 - 07:44

Ethan Garcia

Both are full of shit and none of you should vote

July 1, 2016 - 07:46

Parker Sanchez

This makes the DNC ignoring Sanders nothing but hubris. They really can't afford to throw away him or his voters, especially when a good number of them are going to vote for Trump, either out of disgust or despair.

But, as I've predicted before, they probably won't figure that out until late in the election cycle, when Hillary and Trump are stalemated in the polls and they've burned all the bridges.

July 1, 2016 - 07:48

Josiah Bennett

And you're into guns. My cock is diamonds now.

July 1, 2016 - 07:49

Ayden Harris

This is naive. They won't be stalemated in the polls. The American people are largely more and more disgusted with Trump. Especially a majority of women in the entire country.

Clinton will win without much trouble at all. People don't care about back door smoke filled room politics, they care about direction. They never cared. Clinton will win in a land slide

July 1, 2016 - 07:50

Nicholas Young

It's more than just hubris: it's desperation. To have a self-avowed socialist win after a century-and-a-half of concerted efforts and propaganda to discredit not only socialists but socialism would undo all the bourgeoisie's hard work. Worse still, if he wins and is successful in implementing his policies and they work then it explodes the entire austerity narrative they've been constructing, and if (or when, Marx willing), that happens all bets are off.

So that's why he can't be allowed to win at any cost, because for them if Trump wins they just lose an election, but if Bernie wins they'll lose everything.

July 1, 2016 - 08:13

Andrew Miller

And the Republicans will take Congress, making it moot.

July 1, 2016 - 08:24

Adrian White

Do you guys actually believe this or am I missing the joke here? You have a third-worldist Marxist in the Oval Office right now, but sanders is a bridge too far for the DNC aparachiks?

Even if they had something to fear from Sanders, the GOP Congress would neuter him for them. He's also pro-immigration and an ardent zionist. Even if he had free reign, what would he really do?

Void student debt for a bunch of useless PoMo studies degree holders? Who cares.

Raise the minimum wage to $20 an hour? Great. Full automation in the service sector suddenly becomes affordable. Millions of nignogs are now jobless and the service at my local chic-fil-a improves immeasurably.

July 1, 2016 - 08:36

Tyler Bell

Do you?

Do you really?

July 1, 2016 - 08:38

Justin Miller

They figure, like all previous failed far-left Democratic candidates, that his voters will just go with the nominated candidate, or, that in their worst case scenario (yet they laugh at it and mock it) they won't show up on polling day.

Neither the media narrative nor the Democratic party will admit, nor consider the possible overlap between Berneouts and lil' Donny Dump supporters.

His policy of free education doesn't resolve the broken nature of education- Hell, just look how his wife mismanaged the finances of a college now forced to close down.

It won't even change the fact colleges stay competitive with minor textbook revisions that remove the used book market from their monopoly.

Then consider that they're co-opted as temples of indoctrination for the ruling classes.

July 1, 2016 - 08:39

James Wood

DUMB AND PROUD

July 1, 2016 - 08:39

Charles Wright

kys

July 1, 2016 - 08:39

Owen Bailey

If I had to guess at Pres. Gay Urkel's actual politics, yeah I'd say so. Look at his past. Look at his dad.

I'm not saying he did much actual gommie stuff while in office, but really that just further supports my point about what a letdown Sanders would actually be for you people if elected.

July 1, 2016 - 08:45

Brandon Bennett

...

July 1, 2016 - 08:46

Nicholas Carter

If he was an actual communist I would be praising him.

July 1, 2016 - 08:46

Isaac Edwards

No shit. It couldn't be because they're both ANTI-ESTABLISHMENT?

The other day, my mother, lifelong Democrat, said that given the choice between Hillary and Trump, she would vote Trump. She hated very idea of it, but she just couldn't trust Hillary with the Presidency.

This is the bed the DNC made.

July 1, 2016 - 08:53

Brayden Long

Inevitable this happens, but I wonder what it will accomplish with the way the easily manipulated fiat currency behaves.

This will have to happen regardless if the government ever wants middle-class wage slaves to tax into oblivion, as in this climate, many of them are too saddled with debt to use their degrees for employment.

So all their earnings aren't going to taxes, they're going towards debt collection agencies and their subsistence lifestyles.

i.e. the story of the unemployed dentist that's never escaping their student loan debts.

July 1, 2016 - 08:54

Juan Watson

archive.is/kfWWI
The obvious Trump running mate? Bernie Sanders, of course

July 1, 2016 - 12:28

Henry Bell

How does this plagiarist still have a job?

July 1, 2016 - 13:06

Isaac Lopez

Are they finally admitting that protectionism is inherently leftist now? Are the neolibs finally abandoning their camouflage?

July 1, 2016 - 13:21

Jack Russell

Wow, is that the best you've got? Try again. We're all faggots here. Or better yet, leave it to the pros.

I won't be voting for her because I don't live in a swing state, but if I did I would. Besides, she's going to get indicted at some point, it's a question of how long they want to stall. (Oh by the way, Lynch said she'd do whatever the FBI recommends. The FBI is almost certain to recommend indictment. It's a question of how much Comey wants to hurry.)

Yeah, no shit. It seems like everyone on /r/socialism is either the kind we don't want or is already on here to some extent, which is surprising for a fucking imageboard board. I feel like we're not too far from becoming the Holla Forums-equivalent of the far left in terms of influence, our memes are already everywhere. We just have to find a way to make revleft and /r/socialism our satellites or irrelevant and we've become the central hub. Oh, and we have to expand our influence on Facebook, Twitter and Tumblr.

wew ok, whatever the point is at this point it's doubtful either of them will make it to november

lmao Sanders is not a fucking Zionist
Actually the most important thing he could do is a. encourage socialist ideas like unions and cooperatives and b. nothing, foreign policy wise, which would be a huge departure and what is one of the main things we like about him

His wife had nothing to do with Burlington, she wanted to do some things to pay off the loan and the board was like "no" so she left.
If you ask me institutions of education should not be allowed to have religious affiliation, which would close 90% of private universities. Good, as far as I'm concerned. TTTs are basically diploma mills and they disgust me, you'd learn more at a fucking trade school and it'd be fucking cheaper too.
That being said, education reform is easier than it looks especially with most of the non-religious ones already being public.
Hardly. My favorite personal conspiracy theory is that certain portions of academia and companies like Colgate-Palmolive teamed up to shill for more and more hygienics products- remember when you had to brush your teeth once a day and you were golden? Now you "should" brush three times a day, floss three times a day and rinse three times a day. Not to mention America has way, way better dental standards than any other country and this was true even back when we didn't do all this stupid ritual crap.

wew

July 1, 2016 - 13:47

Ian Collins

What did he plagiarize?

July 1, 2016 - 14:00

Eli Cruz

So you don't think it will spur automation? The technology is there already. It's just currently more cost effective to employ nignogs and immigrants to flip patties and run telemarketing than it is to deploy robots.

July 1, 2016 - 14:19

Angel Walker

GUYS,
reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4qt9xu/unconfirmed_hillary_set_to_interview_with_fbi/

July 1, 2016 - 15:08

Logan Bennett

The whole system is corrupt, even if they have her dead to rights committing a crime it will be swept under the rug or delayed because all of those fuckers are her friends

July 1, 2016 - 15:12

Isaac Butler

a little bit skeptical but could be big

July 1, 2016 - 15:22

Aaron Lewis

the convention is coming up soon, now would be the time to come out with any results lest they weight till the general or afterwards

July 1, 2016 - 15:25

Brandon Ramirez

Not all of them. I'm sure there are plenty of republicans that get hard at the thought of not only nabbing her but Bill and the whole Clinton Foundation in one fell swoop. Not to mention indicting the presumptive Democratic nominee would cut the DNC off at the knees if successful, which they might very well want if it means time for them to cook up an alternative to Trump.

I don't know. It just seems like they're too nervous for the threat of indictment to be complete bullshit.

July 1, 2016 - 15:27

Anthony Watson

It takes a ballsack the size of Gabriel's Horn to say something's going to happen TOMORROW though. At the very least I respect whoever was willing to tell such a big lie.

Exactly. Comey has said again and again he'll take as long as he wants but I think deep down he knows he really ought to do this before the convention. The question is if he cares. He is a Republican after all.

July 1, 2016 - 15:27

Thomas Carter

True, I hadn't thought about that in terms of the timing. It would indeed be beneficial for the republicans if it came up with nothing but was still hanging over the general election. But hopeful, it will have come up with something.

July 1, 2016 - 15:30

Hudson Mitchell

Well, he's a Republican but on the other hand he's also a total boy scout who has never given Obama a hard time and gotten a lot of good shit done. He also is no partyist, and will do things like admit the way the police force is run is racist. In the end, even if he WANTS to do something like this there's no reason to believe he will.

Basically, the only way for Sanders not to be the nominee at this point is for everything to be lined up precisely to fuck us. If we had won the primaries we wouldn't be counting on Comey, and that was a case of "everything lining up to fuck us" of its own. It would be extraordinarily bad luck and huge corruption. In the end all we can do is cross our fingers, but there is a very, very good chance for Sanders to be the nominee still, over 50% I'd wager.

July 1, 2016 - 15:42

Ryder Gonzalez

Well let's hope the reason the investigation took this long was because they're preparing an airtight case against clinton.

July 1, 2016 - 16:29

Oliver Evans

Definitely. This isn't even the first time he's tried to bring charges against Hillary.

July 1, 2016 - 16:43

John Morgan

It looks like it would be ultimately up to him, considering Bill's recent political mistep

nytimes.com/2016/07/02/us/politics/loretta-lynch-hillary-clinton-email-server.html

July 1, 2016 - 16:55

Joseph Gonzalez

Misstep? This meeting casts doubt on whatever action lynch makes from here on out. It's a win-win scenario for the Clintons. If she doesn't indict, then it's all good for the Clintons and the blame can go to Lynch. If she does indict, the legitimacy of the proceedings can be called into question as being headed by someone partial to Clintons. She might have to recuse herself and be replaced by someone actually more partial to the Clintons.

July 2, 2016 - 07:45

Julian Turner

A federal lawsuit was against GOP presumptive nominee Donald Trump last week, accusing him of raping a thirteen year old girl in 1994.

"I personally witnessed the Plaintiff being forced to perform various sexual acts with Donald J. Trump and Mr. Epstein. Both Mr. Trump and Mr. Epstein were advised that she was 13 years old."

"I personally witnessed four sexual encounters that the Plaintiff was forced to have with Mr. Trump during this period, including the fourth of these encounters where Mr. Trump forcibly raped her despite her pleas to stop, or that she wanted her mother back."

" I am coming forward to swear to the truthfulness of the physical and sexual abuse that I personally witnessed of minor females at the hands of Mr. Trump and Mr. Epstein . . . I swear to these facts under the penalty for perjury even though I fully understand that the life of myself and my family is now in grave danger."

It's over. Trump is f i n i s h e d.

July 2, 2016 - 08:48

Leo Barnes

Source? Who's being quoted?

July 2, 2016 - 09:34

Joshua Brown

An anonymous witness to an anonymous Jane Doe who recently came forward that Trump raped her in 1994 at 13 years old. Trump, at the time, was friends with Jeffrey Epstein, who is a registered sex offender who dabbled in child pornography and non-consensual sex with minors in the 90's.

democracynow.org/2016/7/1/headlines/trump_faces_lawsuit_accusing_him_of_raping_13_year_old_girl

July 2, 2016 - 09:37

Camden Howard

it's amazing how many capitalists are childfuckers and get away with it for decades while poor fuckers are being forced to deal with saggy tits.

July 2, 2016 - 09:46

Henry Cox

ftfy

July 2, 2016 - 09:52

Nathan Price

It's fucking disgusting how many sex offenders get away with it because of their riches. Wall Street, hedge fund managers, thinking that it'll never come to light because of how much they have. Epstein hardly served despite being convicted.

July 2, 2016 - 09:53

Xavier Garcia

it's not just being criminals in this case
they're living the pedo dream
and it just surpises me how many of them eventually get snitched
just think of how many of them are throwing huge orgies with drugs and underaged whores

July 2, 2016 - 09:59

Jaxon Phillips

You're fucking disgusting

July 2, 2016 - 10:01

Samuel Clark

God we'd be the embarrassment of the world if we nominated both a pedo rapist and someone married to a pedo rapist. B

July 2, 2016 - 10:04

Samuel Morales

But it might just give Jill Stein a chance.

July 2, 2016 - 10:04

Joseph Turner

The nature of the crime is irrelevant
The point is when you have a lot of influence, you can rig the institutions and that include those who deal with crime. Unless someone with even bigger influence want to fuck you over…

July 2, 2016 - 10:08

Julian Thomas

The Daily Show does another segment 'debunking' the sexist berniebros who have betrayed our white feminist lord and savior, Hillary Clinton
cc.com/video-clips/ryu5fc/the-daily-show-with-trevor-noah-bernie-or-bust--why-bernie-sanders-supporters-turn-to-donald-trump
archive.is/YcKvy
archive.is/m7UrF
archive.is/a3bbk

July 2, 2016 - 10:08

Jaxson Turner

To be fair people jumping from Bernie to Trump are fucking ridiculous retards

July 2, 2016 - 10:09

Logan Flores

yes, but the problem is the framing of the issue. There are plenty of blue collar workers who are on team trump for economic issues and don't give a shit about Hillary's gender.
Liberal establishment keeps pretending that the only reason people are dissatisfied with the establishment is because of sexism/racism/millennial entitlement. It's the same deal as Brexit, no one wants to admit that the rise of the far right is because capitalism screwed the pooch.

July 2, 2016 - 10:13

John Ramirez

It doesn't matter to me how it's framed because it's a non-issue because both Trump and Hillary are monstrous. And let's be honest, lot's of people aren't voting for Trump for his "well thought out economic populism".

Trump and Hillary are both shining examples of how fucking awful our world is politically. People who support either don't get my respect, I could give a shit.

Just because it is, does not make the people who cling to the right for answers any less ignorant or hysterical. They are.

July 2, 2016 - 10:16

Gavin Martinez

nytimes.com/2016/07/03/us/politics/hillary-clinton-fbi-emails.html

It's confirmed, clinton was interviewed by the FBI at their headquarters this morning for about 3 and a half hours.

July 2, 2016 - 10:18

Jaxson Garcia

i bet clinton had some kiddos lick her carpet as well. it's a fucking pedo kabala thingy going on!

July 2, 2016 - 10:29

Brayden Sanders

theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/02/donald-trump-star-of-david-tweet-hillary-clinton
Trump retweeted a picture of Hillary Clinton with the Star of David, then immediately deleted it.
I'm sure this will in no way lead to an upshoot of Holla Forums shitposting whatsoever.

July 2, 2016 - 10:36

Ryder Diaz

I fucking hate this future.

July 2, 2016 - 10:36

Camden Hernandez

Trump and Bill Clinton's mutual friend it seems.

July 2, 2016 - 11:19

Nicholas Watson

...

July 2, 2016 - 11:22

Andrew Mitchell

Yeah, but when Trump pisses on my leg he tells me he's pissing on my leg.

July 2, 2016 - 11:27

Carson Hughes

He's still pissing on your leg, and you're still a freak for enjoying the urine.

July 2, 2016 - 11:29

John Cox

wew lad.

July 2, 2016 - 11:34

Dylan Peterson

halfchan Holla Forumsthread with OP claiming to be FBI
archive.is/JEXOo

July 2, 2016 - 11:34

Jaxon Watson

If you actually were capable of reading, I said I hate Hillary Clinton and Trump.

Anyone who supports either shouldn't be posting here.

If you think Trump will make any of those issues better, especially The Patriot Act? You're out of your goddamn mind.

July 2, 2016 - 11:36

Jordan Long

so does Hillary

July 2, 2016 - 11:37

Wyatt Rogers

really, because you sound like a cheerleading Hillary supporter.

July 2, 2016 - 11:38

Ryder Cooper

...

July 2, 2016 - 11:47

Matthew Campbell

Yes.

Anybody Who Criticizes This Neoliberal I like Supports This Neoliberal I Don't Like

July 2, 2016 - 11:52

Carson Hughes

Don't bully pee fetishists, please. Nobody really chooses what turns them on.

July 2, 2016 - 11:54

Jaxson Torres

I'm sorry for the uncalled for kink shaming, I apologize profusely.

July 2, 2016 - 11:56

Zachary Hill

Some kinks deserve to be shamed

Like diaperfags

July 2, 2016 - 11:58

Luis Richardson

Problematic

July 2, 2016 - 12:00

Evan Cook

pls no bully!

July 2, 2016 - 12:08

William Gray

I like how this FBI agent is totally proves his legitimacy by confirming all of Holla Forums's biases and theories.

July 2, 2016 - 12:09

Nathan Brooks

It's like COINTELPRO in reverse

July 2, 2016 - 12:12

Blake Gray

My favorite part is when he says that most of the FBI loves Holla Forums and secretly agrees with it and actually studies the opinions and arguments it reads there.

What a joke

July 2, 2016 - 12:18

Evan Miller

Huh

July 2, 2016 - 13:04

Liam Baker

wew
WEW
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEW
i died they're even stupider than i thought

July 2, 2016 - 13:13

Dominic Robinson

...

July 2, 2016 - 13:16

Camden Ramirez

It seems the great way to refute socialism is to be refuted when you simply refer to it as statism with idpol elements.

youtube.com/watch?v=F7HmFH-Wo1s

Soros would never benefit from workers owning the workplaces, but he might with statism. The Kochs are also another factor.

July 2, 2016 - 13:27

Xavier Cox

Why hasn't TYT reported on the Bill Clinton and Loretta Lynch's meeting scandal yet?

July 2, 2016 - 15:32

Anthony Gray

They have?

July 2, 2016 - 15:34

Juan Hill

Tell me the name of this sperm fiend.

July 2, 2016 - 15:48

Levi Clark

>cnn.com/2016/07/02/politics/clinton-meets-with-fbi-as-part-of-email-probe/
CNN says that unless she incriminated herself in the interview, it is unlikely that clinton will face charges, and that a decision is expected before the conventions.

July 2, 2016 - 15:54

Elijah Moore

Hell.. How would I know?

I even find their name offensive!

July 2, 2016 - 15:55

James Richardson

Uh…they did?
youtube.com/watch?v=2b5ssg4QD2Y

July 2, 2016 - 16:34

Ian Parker

Well of course THEY say so, nice way to totally forget about the OIG report.
FUCK YES.

July 2, 2016 - 16:51

Ryder Cook

Did Jimmy Dore do a video chat with Holla Forums yet?

July 2, 2016 - 17:27

Michael Collins

Not all that related but:

20committee.com/2016/07/02/the-kremlin-admits-snowden-is-a-russian-agent/

What does this mean?

July 2, 2016 - 18:14

Michael Bell

I'd hope not, I wanna be there for something like that.

July 2, 2016 - 18:17

Nicholas Peterson

lol, bullshit

July 2, 2016 - 22:13

Adam Long

We KNOW she destroyed evidence, we just can't Prove she ordered it.

July 2, 2016 - 23:39

Nathaniel Flores

So according to Redacted Tonight Bernie is now ahead in California at 51%. Wish I had a real source on this already instead of a comedy show.

youtube.com/watch?v=Q50liF72HjA

July 3, 2016 - 01:06

Dylan Powell

No, that's 51% of the votes that have been counted since the day after the day they voted.

July 3, 2016 - 01:30

Luke Carter

mfw when Hillary gives himself her first presidential pardon.

July 3, 2016 - 01:42

Austin Campbell

...

July 3, 2016 - 01:43

Dominic Flores

...

July 3, 2016 - 03:33

Thomas Foster

FUCK THIS BOMB!

July 3, 2016 - 03:39

Nathan Taylor

They say he's winning California now so that can't be the whole story.

July 3, 2016 - 05:06

Charles Lewis

Anyone like or voting for Jill Stein?

July 3, 2016 - 05:39

Matthew Roberts

This is the second time is see this in an unrelated thread.
Can't you guys at least make a dedicated shitposting thread?

July 3, 2016 - 06:06

Camden Butler

Her eyes and eyebrows look exactly like that young Stalin mugshot.

July 3, 2016 - 06:11

Chase Smith

Yes.

July 3, 2016 - 06:28

David Ortiz

...

July 3, 2016 - 08:55

Jayden Gutierrez

stupid sexy stalin

July 3, 2016 - 09:03

Jordan Harris

Naivety of politics, how refreshing it used to be to be under 18

July 3, 2016 - 09:06

David James

...

July 3, 2016 - 09:35

Jeremiah Russell

We have a dedicated shitposting board now. There's no excuse to do it here at all. >>>/leftyb/

July 3, 2016 - 09:37

Levi Ortiz

As the case with all neoliberals who the majority of the establishment supports, she's going to get the presidency.

July 3, 2016 - 09:37

Liam Jones

Good job!

July 3, 2016 - 09:51

Jacob Russell

Isn't it kind of strange they immediately jump to the conclusion it's a star of david?
Yes, it resembles it, but it's still star shaped.

July 3, 2016 - 09:58

Carson Ward

I mean it's kind of weird to use a six-pointed starburst as a graphic designer and not think of the Star of David… Anybody who does that kind of stuff tends to be familiar with common symbols. OTOH, a six-pointed star is a fairly basic shape.

July 3, 2016 - 10:04

Christopher Reyes

Of course, but the image was not even made by Trump's team. It was done by someone else on Twitter. His team was simply not thinking it through that people might see it as a star of David.

It's just fucking hilarious to see major media outlets freaking out about something that might as well be a sheriff's badge

July 3, 2016 - 10:08

Liam Ramirez

That's an appropriately scary image.

July 3, 2016 - 10:28

Chase Nguyen

wew

July 3, 2016 - 12:20

Lincoln Ortiz

cnn.com/2016/07/02/politics/clinton-meets-with-fbi-as-part-of-email-probe/

insider.foxnews.com/2016/07/01/judge-pirro-why-hillary-isnt-going-be-indicted-her-emails

FUCK

July 3, 2016 - 13:32

Wyatt Flores

Good. She'll be a horrible president.

Pedal to the medal comrades.

July 3, 2016 - 13:43

Jayden Gonzalez

She's not as good as Bernie but she's way better than the rest of the neoliberal scum at least. Trying to get her on the ballot in my state right now.

July 3, 2016 - 13:55

Luke Thompson

Don't forget
>therefore the whole world has both all the state secrets she dealt in and her personal dirty laundry
>the FBI knows that the server was hacked
>therefore the FBI knows that the world has this leverage over Hillary, and exactly what this leverage is
This in itself is bad enough, especially with regards to the people in the security community and potential leaks in the future. But then we also have…
>The FBI knows that their options are essentially to recommend indictment (since even just the public knowledge is already enough for this) or to let Wikileaks (and possibly rogue FBI agents) embarrass them and Hillary and give the Presidency to Trump instead
There are two reasons I'm seeing why they wouldn't recommend indictment: they would rather have Trump than Bernie or a Democrat substitute and it's worth it to them to make fools of themselves OR there is an influence (i.e. Clinton Foundation) that makes it worth it to them to fall on this sword instead of do their jobs, because there's a golden parachute and/or hitman swaying the actions of the major players. Regardless of the reasons, if the FBI doesn't recommend to indict they are going to be less than a joke.

And all of this is without even getting into
If she doesn't get destroyed, everyone who let her past will have violated their oaths and potentially subject to lawsuits or criminal actions, depending on what comes out of Wikileaks. I'm of the position that Assange will sit on what he has until it becomes clear what the FBI will recommend. He's got the nuke, but there's no reason to set it off if they do their job, and if they are going to do their job, it would only hurt the situation to set it off now.

tl;dr
y'all niggas are short on both patience and strategy

July 3, 2016 - 14:00

Isaac Brown

If shillary isn't indicted, I think im done with this election tbh. Literally 2 of the worst meme candidates in history

July 3, 2016 - 14:04

William Martin

...

July 3, 2016 - 14:25

Owen Lopez

Probably. If she purges some of the hippies I might be inclined to join the party too.

July 3, 2016 - 14:27

Brody Brown

Erin Burnett got some nice titties tho

July 3, 2016 - 14:43

Matthew Phillips

she got dem mommy titties

you got a girlfrien and want some tig ol bitties, you gotta put a babby in dat wench

plus you get to raise a commie if she don't bail and take ya fa haff ya shit plus monfly payment fo da resta ya lyfe :^)

July 3, 2016 - 15:07

Henry Long

...

July 3, 2016 - 15:21

Gabriel Morales

blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2016/07/01/belatedly-what-sanders-supporters-say-about-race/
Can you believe those RACIST, SEXIST BERNIEBROS?

July 3, 2016 - 16:53

Liam Moore

This is actually positive though

Perhaps that's why they rejected Clinton's racial bullshit. Because they believe black people are, you know, just people, largely oppressed by the capitalist system.

I mean I've always felt there was a degree of "meth addiction"-style racism to modern American "liberalism"

July 3, 2016 - 17:06

Ethan Bailey

No shit. This is the ideology that says black people need to have standards lowered for them to succeed based on being black.

July 3, 2016 - 17:16

Jonathan Peterson

archive.is/4K693
In the Face of a Huge Gender Gap with Trump, It's Time for Progressive Men to Get Behind Hillary

Rated PG Parental Guidance: Salon.com

July 3, 2016 - 17:23

Angel Baker

I love you Holla Forums

July 3, 2016 - 17:23

Gabriel Jackson

Amazing.

July 3, 2016 - 17:38

Juan Lee

Shit, meant for . My bad.

July 3, 2016 - 17:41

Elijah Jones

The truth hurts, doesn't it?
Sanders is irrelevant, since Clinton will grab the nomination. Once she's the nominee he becomes completely irrelevant.
He'll take his millions and millions of donation money with him tax free and wonders for the rest of his life how he got away with it

July 3, 2016 - 17:46

Ayden Stewart

What was word filtered?

July 3, 2016 - 18:09

Elijah Green

They're not entirely wrong on that, though.

it's far more likely that they excluded him because there wasn't a large gpa and Clinton has effectively won. Yopu know, like they said.

ok well first of all he spent all of it so i don't even know what you're talking about

July 3, 2016 - 18:16

Ryan Reyes

This guy is hillarious.

July 3, 2016 - 18:19

Levi Turner

Tr1gger warning

July 3, 2016 - 18:30

Benjamin Ramirez

Except the part where it's due to class not race.

July 3, 2016 - 18:34

Colton Morgan

Class is built into race.

July 3, 2016 - 18:36

Colton Peterson

...

July 3, 2016 - 18:45

James Ramirez

Get that reductionist shit out of here, you think redlining doesn't exist? Fuck off cumskin.

July 3, 2016 - 18:54

Liam Stewart

Which is it? Does Hillary have this election in the bag or is she weak against Trump? Make up your mind, Liberals.

July 3, 2016 - 18:55

Gabriel Hughes

he's right ya know.
Modern concepts of race and racism are an invention of capitalism

July 3, 2016 - 18:57

Samuel Powell

Exactly. This is why we get called brocialists. If we want to make ourselves the hub of the left like Holla Forums (4chan Holla Forums, not Holla Forums Holla Forums) is the hub of the right we need to hammer this shit out.

July 3, 2016 - 18:59

Dylan Sanchez

Race is a spook. If you're talking about the spook, then yes class is built into that.

Fuck off.

July 3, 2016 - 19:00

Jaxon Bell

You're implying that people aren't at a systemic disadvantage if they're black, which is bullshit. Even if you're a well-off black there's disadvantages, and well-off blacks are exceedingly rare.

July 3, 2016 - 19:03

Juan Campbell

that's exactly what i meant. It's not a coincidence that racial science and other spooky shit developed parallel to the expansion of capitalism

July 3, 2016 - 19:05

Elijah Richardson

No I am not.

Yeah, OK. I was 90% sure you were Holla Forums saying that blacks are inherently inferior or some shit. I didn't realize you meant the concept of race. Simple statements like "Class is built into race," are more typical of Holla Forums.

July 3, 2016 - 19:16

Jonathan Bell

Ideas like "systemic bias" and "microaggressions" are worthless bunk for the simple reason that if you're better off in total, you're better off, period.

July 3, 2016 - 19:30

Jonathan Carter

That's not what he's talking about. It's not even about individuals. Black people in aggregate, when all else is equal, have lower chances of success because the system doesn't stop racism. Then on top of that historic racism put most black people in a bad position when they were freed from slavery, and most of the population never climbed out of that hole.

July 3, 2016 - 19:41

Luis Gomez

youtube.com/watch?v=oEVYwe6a2Ps

July 3, 2016 - 20:05

Brayden Hall

this place is barely tolerable only because it is not the hub of the left, because the in general is retarded. every week we have a thread "all parties in my area are idpol morons what do". the leftypol is our only recourse from this shit.

July 3, 2016 - 20:08

Zachary Walker

Yeah, the problem is that the left isn't enough like Holla Forums, not the reverse. If anything we should be doing our utmost to keep the non-idpol left alive and free of that lupus.

July 3, 2016 - 20:22

Anthony Morris

The primary reason some groups are generally worse off than others today, is simply because explicit efforts to harm them in the past have left them worse off. Those things are pretty much all (at least in civilized countries) illegal now, leaving the sheer inertia of poverty as the primary factor holding them behind. Economic oppression is the only factor that has been left permitted and barely blunted, so that both absolutely and compared to anything else, it is the only factor deserving of attention until its resolution.

July 3, 2016 - 20:36

Blake Moore

This is mostly true, but there are still problems with racism in areas where people's judgement is a factor. Black people get harsher prison sentences for the same crimes, for instance.

I agree with your overall point, but I have a thing for nuance.

July 3, 2016 - 20:46

Ayden Williams

Here's hoping it's real.

July 3, 2016 - 20:55

Dominic Diaz

see

July 3, 2016 - 21:19

Carter Russell

time.com/4392409/ivanka-trump-donald-trump-feminist/
Donald Trump is a feminist according to his own daughter.
Imagine him trying to bring this up in a debate.

July 3, 2016 - 21:48

Brody Howard

Actually, Holla Forums has only changed in regards to the introduction of stormfags and nazis which all came to 8/pol/ anyway. All its other aspects haven't changed at all and it still became the hub of the right and began defining the normies and not the other way around. I don't think that Holla Forums has to sacrifice itself to become the hub of the left. /r/socialism is on the verge of meltdown (they had a mod purge about a year ago, for example) and we've been sapping from revleft for a while now. Orgs both on the left and the right are full of LARPers and this is known. We need to define the spirit of the movement, and the old orgs will eventually be washed out of the system with no new blood as everyone knows we're the real deal and those bozos sitting around in communes or whatever are a waste of time. What I'm saying is yes, we don't want orgs here, but that's because orgs are LARPers and a few newbie confused leftists. We want to bring all leftists under our banner, and most leftists aren't involved with orgs and are dicking around on the internet, just like rightists. The dickers will come to us and have memes infused into their brain and when the time comes to take action they will be at hand.

July 3, 2016 - 22:02

Gabriel Peterson

Beautiful.

July 3, 2016 - 22:56

Brayden Adams

I mean he's really progressive when it comes to breaking through sexual taboos… :^)

July 3, 2016 - 22:59

Easton Cox

Ana Kasparian; she's Armenian & on The Young Turks(Youtube).

You can have her, I'll take Cenk Uygur. They're both dumb as shit sometimes but damn if they ain't purdy. I like how Cenk gets way too heated up over the stupidest bullshit. It's hot & I want him to take that anger out on me, lmao.

July 4, 2016 - 05:12

Kevin Wood

Wouldn't the statement "race is built into class" fit better then?

July 4, 2016 - 05:20

Nathaniel Lewis

Hello, CTR.

Or Holla Forums

July 4, 2016 - 05:21

Mason Miller

It might take years to get that picture out of my head.

July 4, 2016 - 05:21

Angel Martinez

You're welcome, partner :^)

July 4, 2016 - 05:31

David Clark

You're so sweet

July 4, 2016 - 05:35

Jaxson Harris

I can't believe the goys buy this crap. They're so gullible.

July 4, 2016 - 06:33

Noah Cook

Eat shit

July 4, 2016 - 08:07

Jordan Scott

YHBT

July 4, 2016 - 08:58

Ryan Hall

I don't speak faggot

July 4, 2016 - 09:00

Aiden Mitchell

I bet you started using chans in this decade, queerboy

July 4, 2016 - 09:10

Dylan Walker

shit even reuters is reporting that it came from pol now, reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-tweet-idUSKCN0ZK1MC

July 4, 2016 - 11:21

Austin Sullivan

...

July 4, 2016 - 11:33

Sebastian Bell

Is there any evidence at all for these accusations? Or is it just some guy's word?

July 4, 2016 - 11:35

Ian Roberts

We don't know yet

July 4, 2016 - 11:40

Samuel Lewis

I think H.A. Goodman is a little naive about this.
I have zero faith they will follow through.

July 4, 2016 - 12:04

Henry Williams

A bit old but I don't remember anyone linking this in here yet:

yournewswire.com/united-nations-forced-to-investigate-democratic-election-fraud/

July 4, 2016 - 12:16

Jacob Perry

More proof Trumpeters are cucks: youtube.com/watch?v=Eb7gqkMsQac

July 4, 2016 - 12:46

Parker Thomas

c-span.org/video/?c4606660/bernie-sanders-references-third-party

from a week or so ago

July 4, 2016 - 13:23

Nolan Scott

youtube.com/watch?v=5Ltac5JFciU

July 4, 2016 - 13:31

Nicholas Gonzalez

bigstory.ap.org/article/64a57eab19dc4cb9a5e8b7d48cd44bf5/sanders-protesters-book-campgrounds-democrat-convention

July 4, 2016 - 14:35

Noah Wilson

It wasn't one guy. It was a woman who is corroborating another woman. And the thing is that Trump was great friends with Epstein at that time. He would constantly attend his parties.

And this is what Epstein did at his parties, all the time. The only reason he never got outed was influence, and the once he did he wormed his way out of an actual sentence he deserved.

Knowing Trump it wouldn't surprise me if at one of Epstein's parties he fucked a thirteen year old.

July 4, 2016 - 15:38

David Stewart

I cannot fucking wait for this election to be over

July 4, 2016 - 15:41

Brody Rivera

We're coming buckos.

July 4, 2016 - 16:16

Cameron Bennett

rall.com/2016/07/03/hillary-cheated

July 4, 2016 - 17:51

Jason Gomez

bye bye sanders
you were never relevant to begin with :^)

July 4, 2016 - 17:55

Oliver Diaz

jill2016.com/it_is_time_for_a_second_american_revolution
Jill Stein calls for the Second American Revolution

July 4, 2016 - 17:57

Josiah Flores

Does this man browse Holla Forums?

July 4, 2016 - 18:03

Sebastian Martin

revolution

July 4, 2016 - 18:03

Henry Rodriguez

Jill Stein for waifu.

July 4, 2016 - 18:05

Camden Ross

fuck everyone who's voting in this election on the same level of fuck trump and hillary

July 4, 2016 - 18:06

Ethan Bailey

Nvm I'm voting for Jill. She's bae

July 4, 2016 - 18:06

Jaxson Rivera

If not for these two lines of racial pandering, then it would be 10/10

July 4, 2016 - 18:07

Colton Smith

fuck off

July 4, 2016 - 18:09

Liam Rogers

blm is not only the sjw faggotry that jumped on it
pretty bourgeoise but still not that cancerous in itself
stating the obvious fact that the american revolution was full of shit with its talk about freedom isn't pandering either

July 4, 2016 - 18:10

Isaiah Phillips

No ;^)

July 4, 2016 - 18:11

Christopher Evans

Well as long as you're not in any serious leftist movement bitching non-stop about mentioning faults in America and only here on Holla Forums, I'm good

July 4, 2016 - 18:13

Christian Collins

Maybe I am :^)

July 4, 2016 - 18:14

Andrew Sullivan

Adding smiley faces to your post is annoying could you stop

July 4, 2016 - 18:18

Jayden Diaz

REEEEEEEEEEEE HURRY UP AND SEND HER TO PRISON OR NOT YOU FBI FUCKS

July 4, 2016 - 18:23

Justin Murphy

dude this is america do you really think she's going to prison lmao

July 4, 2016 - 18:27

Carson Cooper

Besides I don't even give a shit about the crime. Who gives a fuck about state secrets leak them all I don't care

July 4, 2016 - 18:27

Isaac Lopez

Be honest, you're saying that on purpose :^3

July 4, 2016 - 18:47

Logan Carter

I am purposefully telling you to cease.

July 4, 2016 - 18:54

Daniel Green

Fuck you mom >:^(

July 4, 2016 - 18:58

Cooper Wilson

my weak spot You can use smiley faces now

July 4, 2016 - 19:09

Asher Ward

second one's true tho

July 4, 2016 - 19:12

Lucas Cruz

good thread

July 4, 2016 - 19:54

Adrian Cruz

So angry, miss…

July 4, 2016 - 19:59

Adrian Sanchez

fucking kek

July 4, 2016 - 21:21

Benjamin Johnson

Journalism is dead and these people are raping the corpse

archive.is/HrqHC#selection-227.0-227.65

July 4, 2016 - 21:40

Christian Adams

40 thousand dollars a day! Just Imagine how many people in syria we could kill with that money

July 4, 2016 - 21:57

Austin Torres

wsws.org/en/articles/2016/07/05/casi-j05.html

By Genevieve Leigh
5 July 2016

July 5, 2016 - 01:43

William Rodriguez

...

July 5, 2016 - 01:43

Justin Perry

...

July 5, 2016 - 06:46

Adrian Rogers

Apparently the FBI director has scheduled an unexplained press conference at 11 EST, about 40 minutes. Might mean that they're gonna tell us.

July 5, 2016 - 07:18

Cameron Brown

Oh yeah? Check out the tagline for this article from CNN.

archive.is/fMmGI

July 5, 2016 - 07:24

Carter Bell

Huma Abedin is claiming she destroyed government documents.

July 5, 2016 - 07:38

John White

Aside from who kisses porky's boots more,it's clinton Trump IS big business.
The fact they consistently ignore that point and shun examples like Trump that don't suit the narrative of benevolent big business, shows how far they are willing to go to damage control for the bourgeoisie.

July 5, 2016 - 07:59

Kevin Torres

c-span.org/video/?412231-1/fbi-director-james-comey-delivers-statement-hillary-clinton-email-investigation

COMEY TALKING ABOUT CLINTON

July 5, 2016 - 08:14

Nicholas Brooks

SHE'S GETTING OFF

THE BITCH IS GETTING OFF

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

July 5, 2016 - 08:16

Christopher Hall

"No charges are appropriate in this case."

"No outside influence of any kind was brought to bear."

Kill them all.

July 5, 2016 - 08:17

Kayden Ortiz

...

July 5, 2016 - 08:18

Xavier Murphy

FBI isn't recommending charges be pressed even though Clinton technically broke the statutes because the prosecutors wouldn't be able to make a good enough case, Comey just announced.

July 5, 2016 - 08:19

Brody Johnson

I'm not surprised but I'm still hating being alive right now

July 5, 2016 - 08:21

Luke Davis

"We recommend no indictment>"

July 5, 2016 - 08:21

Jayden Sanders

It's okay because she didn't mean to honest

July 5, 2016 - 08:24

Kevin Foster

H.A. Goodman is going to have a mental break down.

July 5, 2016 - 08:25

Michael Bell

i didn't get the reasoning why in her particular case they cannot recommend charges, can someone explain me in more simple words?
english is hard enough for me already and as usual official talk is tip toeing around making it even harder to follow.

July 5, 2016 - 08:25

Asher Gonzalez

He said it was because they couldn't prove that she intentionally broke the law, but it's because she's rich and powerful.

He spoke for like twelve minutes about how any reasonable person should have known better and that any other person would be in jail right now, but Hillary is a special case so no indictment.

I hate my country.

July 5, 2016 - 08:27

Matthew Robinson

The FBI basically passed the buck, stating she compromised national security but they are not going to be the ones to recommend indictment.

July 5, 2016 - 08:27

Connor Hughes

ok turns out i actually DID understand him clear enough
i just couldn't believe it

July 5, 2016 - 08:29

Logan Turner

I'm surprised they recommend not to indite.

July 5, 2016 - 08:29

Kevin Carter

This is one of the first cases of private email use in the state department besides Powell. But apparently because there is no precedent because this has never happened.
That is like saying to some asshole in the 1500s that we cannot charge you with murder of your wife because you are the first one to commit murder with a gun.

July 5, 2016 - 08:31

Alexander Murphy

In his own words, he's admitting she broke the law. There is definitely intent there - THAT'S WHY SHE USED THE PERSONAL SERVER in the first place.

Still, this scandal will likely cost her the Presidency. It's damaging her further as more & more info comes out, almost daily.

I hope this cunt she gets sniped live on TV.

July 5, 2016 - 08:39

Jason Reyes

And my foreign fiance just said, "You know it's not good to have a Presidential candidate under FBI investigation."

How can some Americans still not get this? I hope they do, come the election.

July 5, 2016 - 08:41

Easton Jackson

You'd be right if we lived in a universe ruled by a just god, but unfortunately we live in the belly of a demon that is sustained on our suffering.

Don't say such sweet things. It just makes reality more bitter.

July 5, 2016 - 08:41

Eli Carter

...

July 5, 2016 - 08:46

Juan Morales

She will ride on a wave of "first women president" "dont be mean to minorities" and be helped by the corporations and media.
Our only hopes are
1.Bernie runs third party ruining everything for her
2.Someone jfk's her
3.Trump is actually the Chinese chaos monkey god that can play 18 dimensional chess and brings her down with the might of kek

Since life is boring and the government is corrupt nothing will happen and she will win and the same shittty oligarchy will continue, idpol will continue , she might even start a few wars.

Im going to go back to ignoring politics and start my alcoholism hobby

July 5, 2016 - 09:00

Ryder Davis

...

July 5, 2016 - 09:03

Jeremiah Martin

Today is a good day to drink

July 5, 2016 - 09:04

Ryan Lewis

watching goodman delusions will be more interesting nao

July 5, 2016 - 09:07

Thomas Young

oh also, these "hostile actors" who accessed her emails, for the love of god be russia, and for the love of god putin, release them

July 5, 2016 - 09:10

Sebastian Reed

archive.is/iAVyJ
Wikileaks going all in on this bitch

July 5, 2016 - 09:22

Henry Lopez

Nah, they'll just use them to blackmail her into doing their bidding. Remember, the server also had her private emails, including Clinton Foundation stuff.

July 5, 2016 - 09:47

Ian James

I told you morons nothing would happen. What the fuck world are you living in where people this close to the the top, or people with this level of income, etc. ever get indicted?

They don't. Nothing would happen.

We can't even have an ENRON situation at this point.

I don't know what you were expecting out of this.

July 5, 2016 - 09:52

Easton Sullivan

No, and his numbers are in free fall at the moment. Which is good because it means
this may actually happen. Now is a good time to do it too, instead of at the convention, but he should probably wait for Wikileaks to fuck her shit up to give the Dems one last chance to switch before getting stuck with someone so poisonous.

Nah, she has even more security than most politicians. It'd take some Maxwell Smart type spy tech shit to pull that off.

July 5, 2016 - 09:53

Blake Davis

Besides I don't see how I should care about American secrets being released. Release them all anyways. I could give a shit, the more harm inflicted on American security the better.

Hillary is corrupt in about ten billion other ways.

July 5, 2016 - 09:55

Grayson Hernandez

Wikileaks tbh. I had some hope that Comey would do his job but I guess the Clintons threatened to shoot all five of his kids with the CIA's heart attack gun.

July 5, 2016 - 09:56

Asher Morgan

honestly i just wanted to see confused sanders supporters being suprised, yet again, that the system really is corrupt

they constantly talk about it and get confirmation yet every fucking time they're suprised when it keeps happening
comedy gold

July 5, 2016 - 09:56

Daniel Hernandez

I think it's more like surprise about how brazen the ruling class are. It's like when Marie Antoinette said "Let them eat cake." This situation is going to propel us very quickly in that direction, if anything.

July 5, 2016 - 09:58

Henry Baker

No it won't. A million other factors will, but this won't. The average American thinks negatively about this but not to the point of fury.

July 5, 2016 - 09:58

William Thompson

She never said that actually

July 5, 2016 - 10:02

Nicholas Thompson

...

July 5, 2016 - 10:04

Parker Clark

I'm reading reddit and I'm amazed how many people think she really didn't commit any crimes here.

July 5, 2016 - 10:13

David Perry

CTR is all over the place there. They're in full force in the megathread atm. Reddit is such shit for politics because of this.

That $6 million dollars is working for them over at CTR.

July 5, 2016 - 10:17

Cameron Cox

fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/statement-by-fbi-director-james-b.-comey-on-the-investigation-of-secretary-hillary-clintons-use-of-a-personal-e-mail-system

TL;DR Hillary did wrong things but we don't want her charged because reasons.

July 5, 2016 - 10:19

Andrew Lewis

I'm betting Trump won't get charged for fraud and other nonsense either.

You don't expect the bourgeois to ever get charged at this point.

July 5, 2016 - 10:21

Jonathan Jackson

Thread theme right here famalams
m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN6SaPKbyxc

July 5, 2016 - 10:23

Adrian Reyes

...

July 5, 2016 - 10:23

Ryder King

I found that part hilarious & even played it back so my fiance could see the look on his face, too, as Comey was saying it. That flat smile..

July 5, 2016 - 10:29

Andrew Sanders

What is CTR? CounTer-Revolutionaries?

July 5, 2016 - 10:33

Luis Lewis

"correct the record" Clinton's propaganda team.

July 5, 2016 - 10:36

Henry Ross

correctrecord.org/about/

July 5, 2016 - 10:36

Angel Hughes

It all comes down to this. Your kiss, their fist.

July 5, 2016 - 10:37

Matthew Sanchez

youtube.com/watch?v=piulR3TnXCk

INDICTMENTS ARE IMM-
Oh…

July 5, 2016 - 10:39

William Russell

Well at least he accepted he was wrong

July 5, 2016 - 10:47

Jeremiah Gutierrez

What the fuck?

July 5, 2016 - 11:05

Aaron Morgan

I'm so fucking pissed. What the fuck?
It's not even like they came out and said "Hillary ebin meme nuffin", they came out and FUCKING said "Hillary diddu sumfin but yeah we feel good about this women's potential two terms in office everything's fine".

At this point it's all torpedoed unless superdelegates get antsy or a prosecutor takes it upon him/herself to bring Hillary to justice- and I'm pretty sure they'd have to convince Loretta Lynch to sign off on it anyway.

"In looking back at our investigations into mishandling or removal of classified information, we cannot find a case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts. All the cases prosecuted involved some combination of: clearly intentional and willful mishandling of classified information; or vast quantities of materials exposed in such a way as to support an inference of intentional misconduct; or indications of disloyalty to the United States; or efforts to obstruct justice. We do not see those things here."

Balls to all this shit. Obstruction of justice any day of the week.

Fuck this gay earth and fuck me in the asshole.

July 5, 2016 - 11:16

Leo Gonzalez

On the bright side-
youtube.com/watch?v=Vbk7FLOwAaA

July 5, 2016 - 11:19

Blake Phillips

What now, guys?

July 5, 2016 - 11:19

Chase Diaz

youtube.com/watch?v=itF27X0481s

20:00 in, it looks like people, at least a few more, may abandon their spooks yet.

I want spread Stirners message ever, but wait, that sounds spooky. I'll just say everything is spooks and explain why if I need to to help despooking.

July 5, 2016 - 11:19

James Hernandez

What does a Bernie Supporter that blew his last $27 on a contribution do now? Hillary is a lock for the nomination.

July 5, 2016 - 11:22

Michael Rogers

It's not over just yet. When Wikileaks drops classified information that will be proof of injury, which would make the situation "gross negligence". The question is if anybody will care.

July 5, 2016 - 11:24

Nathaniel King

Look into the Green Party near you.

July 5, 2016 - 11:25

Luis Williams

Also also, hopefully people will notice that she can still be indicted until February and there is more than enough evidence to. All Comey was saying is that it didn't seem to him that they could convict. Which will change when Wikileaks drops.
Indictments are imminent.

July 5, 2016 - 11:27

Christian Young

see

July 5, 2016 - 11:28

Adam Watson

You realize charges were brought against Nixon right?

July 5, 2016 - 11:29

Aaron Ortiz

In the 1970's. This is not the past. We are living in a neoliberal hellscape. Neither Trump nor Clinton will be indicted on shit.

July 5, 2016 - 11:31

Sebastian Young

Pivot to downballot state/local elections and undermine them

July 5, 2016 - 11:32

Ian Cook

different time, different context.

July 5, 2016 - 11:35

Jacob Ward

No it really fucking wasn't. The Clintons are not all-powerful.

July 5, 2016 - 11:37

Joseph Johnson

This.

You can bet your fucking ass the Republicans that will be voting for Hillary are going to give Congress to the GOP. If we don't do something, we're basically assured another conservative administration.

It would be ironic though if the Sanderistas did the opposite, vote Trump while voting in Democrats to Congress.

July 5, 2016 - 11:41

Kevin Cruz

youtube.com/watch?v=piulR3TnXCk

July 5, 2016 - 11:51

Andrew Taylor

No, I mean terrorizing the Democrats, invading normally uncontested Democrat "safe seats" where Republicans aren't a factor, and giving them to Sandersistas, Tea Party-style.

archive.is/hMxYZ

I don't really care about the centrists who usually get elected in swing seats. Remember when everybody whooped it up because new "Democrats" had "won" seats from Republicans giving us a "majority", except the Blue Dog backstabbers completely refused to help Obama do anything? Remember when our congressional "lead" was ignored "because" the healthcare "debate" with the theoretically inconsequential Republican minority "forced" Obama to "compromise" due to intransigence from Blue Dog "democrats"? Remember when "we" "lost" the next election and 99.999% of the "Democrats" voted out "happened" to be Blue Dogs?

July 5, 2016 - 11:52

Charles Ward

ftfy, libturd

July 5, 2016 - 11:56

Henry Ortiz

foxnews.com/politics/2016/07/04/obama-to-tell-foe-to-friend-story-at-hillary-clinton-event.html

Just fuck my democracy up fam

July 5, 2016 - 12:02

Ayden Hernandez

I'm ashamed I voted for him.

July 5, 2016 - 12:06

Gavin Cook

This whole entire world sucks and I wish I was never born

July 5, 2016 - 12:14

Austin Sanders

This

July 5, 2016 - 12:14

Jordan Rivera

...

July 5, 2016 - 12:28

Thomas Jackson

just fuck my indictments up, fam.

July 5, 2016 - 12:42

Josiah Cruz

I can believe that Clinton was not intentionally trying to expose classified information, but wouldn't criminal negligence apply here? It seems ridiculous she gets a simple slap on the wrist for this while most other people would've been fired/imprisoned for it.

July 5, 2016 - 13:06

Benjamin Barnes

nytimes.com/2016/07/04/us/politics/hillary-clinton-president.html
archive.is/kKatY
youtube.com/watch?v=aTmKncCnMPE
President Shillary is so progressive, she's reaching out to Billionaire vulture capitalists who are women!

July 5, 2016 - 13:11

Wyatt Sanchez

Truly Hillary Clinton is an inspiration.

She proves that in America, no matter what your gender or race or sexuality is, you too can be a ruthless, war-mongering, power-hungry bourgeois tyrant

July 5, 2016 - 13:16

Logan Carter

I've been meaning to listen to The Taxpayers for ages and have finally heard my first song of theirs. I like it. Thanks, dude.

Can anyone tell me about WikiLeaks' response to this? I just woke up.

July 5, 2016 - 13:17

Lucas Peterson

see

July 5, 2016 - 13:18

Nicholas Miller

...

July 5, 2016 - 13:19

Wyatt Powell

Holy shit.

July 5, 2016 - 13:22

Logan Cook

OK so I posted these:

but after thinking a bit I've done an about-face and come to see things the way Comey does. In fact, from a legal perspective I'd say he's right. You have to remember this is the Republican who has already tried to get the Clintons punished for something.
To CRIMINALLY charge someone (civil is another story) there needs to be harm or intent to harm. Clinton did neither. Yet. It is POSSIBLE that some of the e-mails she deleted would count as obstruction of justice, but there's no evidence for that. It is POSSIBLE that her recklessness could cause classified documents to be released (which would upgrade it to gross negligence, which is chargeable), but that hasn't happened yet. Hopefully Comey and friends are paying attention to Wikileaks and when they drop they'll go back over their recommendation and may do a 180, given that that was the main reason they recommended no. And their recommendation means shit if someone in the DOJ wants it to happen anyway.
Tl;dr don't get mad at Comey, don't act like it's all over, Hillary didn't get off scot-free, there is still plenty chance to bring her to justice and have Sanders. Assange is almost certain to drop Hillary's mixtape the day before the convention or in that timeframe for maximum effect, and if people take notice that what they leaked shows that Hillary committed gross negligence then she is fucked six ways to Sunday and she may lose the nomination by superdelegates yet.

Pray in the name of the Sanders, Jeremy and the Holy Spook that this goes like I say it will and it might just happen. Don't lose faith, daddy will give you the commies.

Technically they were wrong because the FBI doesn't have enough information to recommend indictment (yet) but they were still all "I told you so"

July 5, 2016 - 14:46

Grayson Adams

christ almighty, fuck my life, we are all literally gonna die under this psycho bitch when there was a perfectly viable candidate running under the same party.

July 5, 2016 - 15:04

Bentley Myers

As long as you are sufficiently rich. This bit is important.

July 5, 2016 - 15:17

Gabriel Reyes

To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences. To the contrary, those individuals are often subject to security or administrative sanctions. But that is not what we are deciding now.

July 5, 2016 - 15:59

Jayden Edwards

Why did you vote for him? You would have to be autistic (and apparently millions of voters are) to watch any of his speeches and not peg him as all talk.

July 5, 2016 - 16:33

Matthew White

Different poster here. I voted for him for the simple reason that the Clintons had passed NAFTA/GATT (and continued praising it), whereas Obama hadn't said anything about it at that point. That is, Clinton was a confirmed neolib, and Obama had the potential to not be a neolib.

Same reason I'm voting Trump if Sanders isn't in it.

July 5, 2016 - 16:38

Jack Reed

It seems like everyone was assuming that Hillary really was incompetent, dun goof'd and was getting to get caught. You're forgetting that somebody in her position calculates every move. Everything we've heard out of her camp or the government has been controlled as much as possible by the Clintons. Bill and Hillary are both masters of lawyer weaseling. When asked if she had the server wiped, her answer was "What, like with a cloth?" She obviously knows better but feigned ignorance for the sake of plausible deniability. Of course in having the private email server she took steps to ensure plausible deniability too. This "no criminal intent" is bullshit because of her position. Of course she knew the law, she was Secretary of State. This is also how she knew to cover herself by feigning ignorance. Which is kind of a weird paradox, isn't it?

Ah. Fair enough. Very early on I came to the conclusion that Obama was an empty suit and would just go with the flow. Your conclusion is fine too, it just didn't turn out that way. :(

July 5, 2016 - 16:56

Christopher Thomas

Delusion at its finest.

Wikileaks has yet to take down any government, keep dreaming.

The only option left now is vote Trump. You may find it personally distasteful but with Hillary in power and Bernie now her official lapdog, we've all been owned. Bernie lied to us, its unforgivable.

July 5, 2016 - 18:31

Benjamin Sanders

This is fucking important you guys, he is suggesting that instead of indictment her security check should be removed in legalese. I don't think Hillary should go to jail over being a fucking idiot. In my mind this is the best course of action and probably the quickest- the question is if he knows what he's talking about, if it's possible and likely.

You're missing the point. It's not "ignorance of the law is an excuse", it's "she was a fucking idiot but no harm no foul (that is unless Guccifer and others acquired classified info (they did))"

July 5, 2016 - 18:33

Carter Cooper

Shut the fuck up you cockgargler. "Bernie lied to us"? Eat shit MAGAPAC.

July 5, 2016 - 18:34

Sebastian Harris

Bernie said he will vote Hillary, bernie will take his stolen millions from us and hand it to the DNC, bernie will most likely be on the campaign trail for hillary.
How whipped a dog do you have to be before you realize the master is not going to stop?

July 5, 2016 - 18:36

Landon Powell

Why? So we can get another Obama, an overhyped liberal whose positives are inflated and faults are overlooks because he's not the current dumbass-in-chief?

Trump isn't some great "wildcard"; he'll do whatever the most influential people around him want him to do, just like George W. Bush. And if you think getting him elected will somehow teach the DNC a lesson, well, again, I refer to the George W. Bush comparison.

July 5, 2016 - 18:39

Levi Peterson

"Bernie said he will vote Hillary,"
if I lived in a purple state so would I. And that's on the condition it's her vs Trump which is looking increasingly unlikely
"us"
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"hand it to the DNC,"
wew
"bernie will most likely be on the campaign trail for hillary."
wew
"How whipped a dog do you have to be before you realize the master is not going to stop?"
How many times did you have to rewrite the sentence into something that didn't have the word "cuck" in it?

July 5, 2016 - 18:40

Adrian James

Hillary is the 3rd and 4th Obama terms, you know it, we know it. There will be no reform, no changes. I wouldn't be surprised if Hillary keeps Obama on as an advisor.
Bernies reforms will go nowhere with Hillary, nowhere. Bernie is toast, the FBI will no longer be investigating Hillary. When I watched the press conference it sounded like the FBI worked for the Hillary campaign.
I'm beyond upset, but I'm not deluded as to the reality that this is Bernie's last hurrah, he will be locked out of the Convention, just you watch.

July 5, 2016 - 18:46

Henry Clark

You don't know what you're talking about so I suggest these alternatives
>>>/marx/
>>>/liberty/
>>>/anarcho/
>>>Holla Forums
>>>Holla Forums
>>>/n/
>>>Holla Forums

July 5, 2016 - 18:47

Xavier Phillips

Obama was the 4th and 5th Bush terms.

July 5, 2016 - 18:48

Nicholas Hill

yeah no

July 5, 2016 - 18:50

Carson Evans

Thank you for telling me things that I already know. Do I see Clinton enacting any reforms? No, not unless she is put under a massive amount of pressure.

But what will Trump do? There's no substance to your argument, aside from bitterly lashing out without even thinking things through. There's a reason revenge is a dish best served cold you know.

July 5, 2016 - 18:52

Jacob Diaz

If you're going after Trump out of spite, then you're an idiot. Trump is not self-funding his campaign, he is just as deep in the donor dirt as all these other faggots. If you still believe in reformism, go Green. If you think reformism is no longer an option, start organizing.

July 5, 2016 - 18:55

Liam Myers

wow that sure is some coincidence

July 5, 2016 - 20:03

Eli Nelson

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July 5, 2016 - 20:10

Benjamin Johnson

To be fair, Obama would have been an extension of whatever president he followed. He was the most limp-dicked politician I've ever seen.

July 5, 2016 - 20:13

Lincoln Butler

Trump: Praises Saddam Hussein for keeping the lid on Terrorism
Liberals:Suddenly really enthusiastic about defending the overthrow of Saddam
archive.is/csQ9M
archive.is/S0cpi
archive.is/MaTdn
archive.is/YEIkK

July 5, 2016 - 20:26

Luis Flores

Liberals don't give a shit about consistency. None of them will even notice this. Just like how nobody gave a shit about Bush's bad policies when they became Obama's bad policies.

July 5, 2016 - 20:41

Grayson Barnes

why? lol.

Also a simple
>>>Holla Forums would do, you gigantic autist.

July 5, 2016 - 20:42

Carson Reyes

this has been in his stump speeches for the past YEAR, this is a non-news story.

July 5, 2016 - 21:33

Noah Lewis

Gotta try to finish him off now that Hitlery is off the hook and getting people mad. Gotta try and focus that anger on Trump instead.

July 5, 2016 - 21:49

Levi Walker

we were willing after how childish House and Senate Repulicans acted after he got elected. Maybe if your party was passioniate about even one thing I care about (globilization) maybe I'd give a damn.

July 5, 2016 - 21:51

Lincoln Young

IT'S THE CIRCLE OF LIFE

July 5, 2016 - 21:53

Hudson Rodriguez

if you saw how democrates were treated after 9/11 you'd understand his need to appear strong in the face of terror, even though this was at odds with his initial anti-war with iraq stance.

July 5, 2016 - 21:54

Isaac Allen

Are you calling me a Republican?

July 5, 2016 - 21:56

Jayden Young

That's only relevant as far as his foreign policy goes. He's just like Bush with domestic policy too, except for the wedge issues.

July 5, 2016 - 21:58

Aiden Morris

ma VP predictions:

I believe it is highly likely now Elizabeth Warren is going to be Hillary's VP. Those even poll numbers with Trump are making her nervious, and Sanders taking it to the convention is putting her on edge. Elizabeth Warren is her only key to appeasing Sanders supporters without having to give any other significant concessions. In the end she probably hopes Warren will become her Al Gore, ride back seat, and shut up, which it sounds likely Warren will after seeing how willingly she endorsed Hillary.

For Trump it maybe either Chris Christe, the Iowa-woman-Iraq veteran, or some no name who runs a contentious state (like NC). Trump really doesn't want anyone taking his lime light and just wants them to ride back seat and tow his line. Chris Christe might be a good option as it solidifies his outsider, tough guy persona, but he's correct in that Chris Christe can't even bring his own state to the table.

The Iowa she-Republican who's an Iraq war veteran might be a very good option, provided she doesn't clash openly with Trump. She could be Trumps counter-weight to Hillary's Elizabeth Warren, and might turn the tables on the democrates and make this an anti-war election like Nixon did in '69. A pro american business man and a vet are a tough combination to take on, even if your and corporate-SJW with a Fallen-Sanders-supporter at your side.

July 5, 2016 - 22:05

Michael Robinson

except that he never invaded a country, never committed troops to a war, and avoided conflict as much as possible. As someone who grew up under Bush that's a big fucking difference in foreign policy to me.

July 5, 2016 - 22:08

Cameron Johnson

would that be in privitising social security or in passing the affordable care act?

July 5, 2016 - 22:10

Tyler Price

As a Sanders supporter, I like how the Trumpets are trying to paint me as a Hillary supporter, while SJW are painting me a racist. In the end we may end up being the largest uncommitted voting block in this election, and yet both sides think treating me like shit is going to help their cause.

July 5, 2016 - 22:16

Kevin Reyes

The US hasn't formally declared war since WWII. He's approved all sorts of military actions, especially bombings. He's even had US citizens assassinated without trial. It came out recently that he put troops back in Iraq after he promised up and down we were done there.

The US social security system is a joke to begin with, and the ACA is literally exactly what the Republicans wanted, aside form a handful of provisions that are actually good. Obama pitched it as universal healthcare, but by the time it became a bill he walked it back to a "public option," and even that then got changed in Congress to a fucking insurance mandate. So instead of universal healthcare, poor people who don't get (good enough) health insurance from their employers have to either buy it themselves or pay a fine.

You two need to stop swallowing the line of bullshit these professional liars are rolling out.

July 5, 2016 - 22:18

Isaac Campbell

yeah, but it'd be worth it to watch Republicans screem bloody murder as she nominates the most pro-choice Supreme Court justices. They better hope they can hold the House and the Senate, then we can have 8 more years of Repulican obstructionism. But if they can't….

July 5, 2016 - 22:19

Caleb Campbell

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All of which Repulicans would have called him being soft on terror. After voting for John Kerry and losing I don't give a shit how many bombings he has done. Tell me how being a peace knick worked out for Jimmy Carter?

Oh boy, let me tell you about Abraham Lincoln.

yeah, and Repulicans won't even let him close our American Gulag. So long as he's not invading any new countries I consider that an improvement.

welcome to my world.

I agree ACA was bullshit, but after watching how Republicans acted like crying children I could hardly care if ACA is repealled or not.

Hey, did you see that new Alex Jones video he put out?

July 5, 2016 - 22:29

Nathaniel Rogers

But if they can't, we'll get 8 years of some social policies that help some groups while getting the same horrible trade deals we get now - actually expedited because when one party controls the house, senate and executive branches they don't have to argue to make it seem like they're fighting the other side and can pass all the horrible shit they want.

July 5, 2016 - 22:32

Luke Lopez

I pull up an armchair and watch the comedy show.

July 5, 2016 - 22:33

Hudson Campbell

still, I have no love lost for Repulicans. My hope is that the Dems will turn into the the right party as they should be and the Repulicans will be annhilated.

July 5, 2016 - 22:36

Jaxon Murphy

That will not happen. What will happen is that the Republicans will continue to be represented as an equal option in order to make sure people continue to vote in further and further right-wing dems.
The fact that they used election fraud in a primary to keep out a fucking socdem just proves this point. The democratic party is not possible to reclaim.

July 5, 2016 - 22:37

Mason Kelly

I wonder how long until the Republican Party starts producing candidates that are literal monarchists.

July 5, 2016 - 23:17

Cooper Watson

They're going to split into fascists and libertarians. Libertarianism is just neo-feudalism.

July 5, 2016 - 23:20

Lucas Brown

The Iraq War polled terribly on both sides of partisan divide, under both Bush and Obama, only a small minority would've blinked if he'd just pulled us out over his first two years.

What on earth would have to be going on in Warren's head to make her steadfastly refuse a presidential bid, but accept a VP position?

SS is politically untouchable, Bush never had the slightest chance of privatizing it, nor block granting Medicare/Medicaid. Also, like the other guy said, "Obamacare" is almost literally the old Republican counterproposal against Hillarycare from the '90s (not to mention becoming Romneycare immediately before Obama picked it up and made it verboten for Republicans), made to "compromise" with the then-irrelevant Republican minority in both houses.

Don't count on it. Look to Europe for the future of the American left if neolibs and neocons are allowed to run rampant inside it: Citizens under siege by the forces of transnational corporations, true leftists bullied into secrecy or exile from their parties by political correctness, neofascists as the only formal political faction willing (for mostly the wrong reasons) to openly oppose it, and every single drop of populism consequently blasting into the neofascist movement's sails.

Bingo

July 5, 2016 - 23:46

James Young

This is why I despise neoliberals. I used to tolerate them as misguided illiterates but this draws the line.

July 5, 2016 - 23:57

Nicholas Allen

Neoliberalism is literally just reactionary ideology LARPing as leftism. It's almost as if leftist thinking requires a certain capacity of thought, and people who lack that capacity can only accomplish a poor imitation. It's almost like "all people are equal" is too hard to understand for some people, and instead of "white good black bad" they think progress is "black good white bad".

July 6, 2016 - 00:04

Michael Adams

Neoliberalism isn't even pretend leftism. Its pure capitalism that occasionally has some liberal social ideas to appease the masses

July 6, 2016 - 00:08

Cooper Moore

To the people at think tanks coming up with the ideas, yes, but to the average person who subscribes to those beliefs, it's very much pretend leftism. They just don't know they're pretending.

July 6, 2016 - 00:14

Brody Ramirez

No, neoliberalism is a hoary remnant of the early days of liberalism, plucked up by capitalists (also a modern post-feudal ideology) and weaponized against the more enlightened varieties of liberalism. It is not so much "reactionary" as merely a holdover. Us more sophisticated and honest liberals recognize both that some freedoms are mutually exclusive, and that private property requires more freedoms to be surrendered than it grants in return.

They, in their various guises (ancaps, minarchists, objectivists, individualists, ALP libertarians, neocons, transnationalists, "socially progressive economically conservative", etc…) are stuck (willfully, in the case of oily oligarchs who head up these fronts) in an earlier mode of thought where naïve and familiar conceptions of freedom are the ultimate ideal, even when it's obvious horrendous amounts of suffering would have to be imposed for such a system to pass.

Such people describe themselves as either openly rightist, centrist, or "nonpartisan". Unlike that second group, finally, are the delusional "leftists" (liberals, progressives, postmodernists, technocrats, neoagrarians, third-worldists, identitarians, etc…) you spoke of, who have been immersed in so much propaganda from the second group, and exposed to so little perspective from the first group, that they fully believe themselves to be leftist (even revolutionary!) in all ways while upholding every single quirk and injustice of the present system.

July 6, 2016 - 01:24

Bentley Barnes

FBI rejects criminal charges against Clinton in email investigation

wsws.org/en/articles/2016/07/06/fbi-j06.html

By Patrick Martin
6 July 2016

July 6, 2016 - 01:28

Landon Harris

...

July 6, 2016 - 01:28

Joseph King

I wouldn't call those people neo-libs. They're neo-liberalism's controlled opposition. I mean they're playing into neo-liberalism's hands, but that doesn't mean the ideology the people have are neo-liberal.

This is the dominant ideology of neo-liberalism though. It's the people who drive the system. The ones you listed earlier exist so that these people feel like there's something to fight against and to progress from, even though they're stuck in the mud spinning their wheels.

July 6, 2016 - 01:32

Sebastian Roberts

Read a dictionary or encyclopedia, from any decade you care to. The definition of neoliberalism is weak borders, lax government, no laws respecting disposition toward people/commodities (they're the same under neoliberalism), and strong "individual" (read: private property) rights. In other words, the evil twin of socialism, after classical liberalism split in two. The rightists are the core of neoliberalism, from back when upstart capitalists knocked the millennia-reigning feudalists from their thrones, and consolidated their winnings to form the transnational privately run gilded age, before "socialists" began subscribing to it.

THAT only happened during the 1970s, in the aftermath of the 1960s split of energetic leftist leadership and youth from the working class foundations that had sustained socialism for more sensational but less enduring issues (war, racism, sexism, atheism, environmentalism…). When those issues were largely or completely resolved, leftism became an empty shell of lifestylists and hardcore activists without a real cause, leaving them open to corruption and entryism by any unfamiliar ideology with a genuine axe to grind.

It is precisely because both paleoconservatism and socialism are incompatible with both capitalism and political correctness, that neoliberalism fits so perfectly into both the right and left wings of modern politics.

July 6, 2016 - 02:12

Kayden Rogers

...

July 6, 2016 - 02:22

Jose Hall

Oh man he made a spelling mistake. I guess that means you can disregard everything he wrote.

July 6, 2016 - 02:33

Jaxson Young

Nah, he's just ribbing me 'cuz I'm too lazy to redo a scribble I snagged off another thread.

July 6, 2016 - 02:35

Mason Parker

...

July 6, 2016 - 02:40

Adrian Hughes

If there's one lesson to be learned from the environmentalism movement, it's that the environment can't be protected under capitalism. It will always be a losing war.

July 6, 2016 - 05:09

Caleb Sanders

I was referring more to environmentalism's shift from a radical outsider movement, to something that's a fundamental part of government and industry. Stuff like conservation caps, public parks, environmental impact statements, climate control, and sillier things like greenwashing as a legitimate advertising strategy. Environmentalism, just like any mature field, has shed most of its revolutionary spirit.

This left behind lot of influential nuts on the left, who are still fixated to varying degrees on the delusion that—because they think the zeitgeist is so fatally alienated from the environment—we need to abandon all sorts of things like meat, domestication, agriculture, technology, human rights, civilization, and rationality. There also remains a spooky fascination with nature related to mysticism, neopaganism, alternative medicine, esoteric feminism, and other kookery, permeating such misconceptions.

The state of pacifism and atheism is similar, insofar as the draft is gone and no 1st-world nation will ever get involved in a grueling boots on the ground slugfest again, while religion has been permanently dislodged from any official grasp on government or the laws of the land it enforces; even so, we still spend inordinate amounts of cash on military pork and are involved in countless petty scuffles, while religious belief remains strong enough to pervert public discourse.

Basically, the enemy was broken and scattered on every battlefront we engaged them in during the 1960s, even if guerilla forces continue to harass us annoyingly in those places, issuing forth from their primary stronghold (the economy), which has gone uncontested by any organized offensive on our part since the 1940s.

July 6, 2016 - 05:49

Anthony Fisher

What I've been saying for a while now. Expect half of them to become self-styled dominionist moral police like the Constitution Party is now and half of them to become libertarians with an extra dose of moralizing Christian BS and contradiction both in their platform and with the platform.

July 6, 2016 - 06:41

Ryan Lopez

I don't think he really went out of his way to keep a lid on terrorism, though.
It was more of a byproduct

July 6, 2016 - 06:50

Camden Ross

That's because both sides are in denial. They both think they're going to unite the party at their conventions and then sail to victory, laughing at all who opposed them.

All the data shows this is an incredible delusion on their part.

July 6, 2016 - 07:29

Bentley Russell

twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/750703629275770881
DON'T TRUST THE LIZARD, BERNIE

July 6, 2016 - 10:23

Jayden King

...

July 6, 2016 - 10:32

Oliver Phillips

nationalreview.com/corner/437479/fbi-rewrites-federal-law-let-hillary-hook

Cool

July 6, 2016 - 10:34

Kevin Carter

...

July 6, 2016 - 10:36

Jayden Hernandez

The irony is that I believe a part of Holla Forums would like Edward Snowden to be POTUS.

July 6, 2016 - 10:37

Xavier Carter

this is funny, but goodman actually was right in everything except for the indictment itself

July 6, 2016 - 10:41

Elijah Lewis

...

July 6, 2016 - 10:56

Joseph Lee

Sanders booed by House Democrats

Lawmakers press Sanders during a tense question-and-answer session on whether he would ultimately endorse Clinton and help foster party unity.

archive.is/9xNRO
politico.com/story/2016/07/bernie-sanders-booed-house-democrats-225161

This is my favorite statement.

They don't have a fucking clue.

July 6, 2016 - 11:55

Anthony Gutierrez

How far out do these CTR memos get? They've been getting mouths all over the place to spout this line.

July 6, 2016 - 11:58

Alexander Martin

Some people do get it.

While the DNC is blindly falling for Shillary, Sanders knows they have a fucking turd on their hands.

July 6, 2016 - 12:17

Jayden Diaz

I don't think it really fits his skill set

July 6, 2016 - 12:37

Evan Bailey

Nah, I remember the platform obama had and how that turned out. A "platform" isn't enough. You need to have someone with the record to back up their talk.

July 6, 2016 - 13:57

Chase Ortiz

d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/40khyk3nw4/econToplines.pdf
YouGov poll on a bunch of shit

July 6, 2016 - 14:44

Ryan Lopez

Off to a great start

July 6, 2016 - 14:52

Benjamin Baker

(Asked of those who would vote for Hillary Clinton)
I’m mostly voting FOR
Hillary Clinton . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 61%
I’m mostly voting AGAINST
Donald Trump . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 39%

2. Do you have a favorable or an unfavorable opinion of the following people?

Hillary Clinton Very Favorable 18% Somewhat Favorable 23% S. Unf. 12% Very Unf. 43% Don't know 4%

29. Do you have a favorable or an unfavorable opinion of the following people?

Bernie Sanders: VF 24% SF 30% SU 18% VU 20% DK 8%

Hahaha oh lordy loo

July 6, 2016 - 15:00

Jaxon Morris

I think that's why Sanders is holding out. He's desperately trying to get them on his page, but they're too stupid to understand.

They think if they can just get Sanders to endorse Hillary, they'll unite the party. Sanders isn't that naive. He knows his supporters. He knows that endorsing Hillary without any real changes won't get them to vote Democrat. It would be a pointless gesture that would destroy the movement he has created and break the party.

But they just don't see that. If the party is going to break, it's going to be on their heads, not Sanders. He's trying to save their bacon.

July 6, 2016 - 15:00

Jack Bailey

156. Are you or is someone in your household a member of a labor union?
Yes, I am . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7%
Yes, household member is . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7%
No . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 87%

Sigh

July 6, 2016 - 15:07

Christopher Bailey

On the other hand

78. Would you say the government is pretty much run by a few big interests looking out for
themselves or that it is run for the benefit of all the people?
Few big interests . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .74%
Benefit of all . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 11%
Not sure . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15%

July 6, 2016 - 15:27

Oliver Scott

140. Which one of these individuals did you want to be the Democratic nominee for President
in 2016?
Asked of registered voters
Hillary Clinton . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .33%
Bernie Sanders . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 36%
No preference . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 31%

142. Do you think Bernie Sanders should run for President as an independent candidate or
support Hillary Clinton?
Asked of Democratic primary voters
Run as an independant candidate . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 23%
Support Hillary Clinton for President . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 68%
Not sure . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9%

July 6, 2016 - 15:41

Mason Phillips

27. How important will the following issues be in your vote for president this year?(ranked in order of importance according to survey answers, because theirs was jumbled…quelle surprise)

National security 72%
Health care 71%
Fighting terrorism 69%
Social Security 66%
Job creation 61%
Gun control 59%
Immigration reform 56%
Money in politics 46%
Religious liberty 43%
Income inequality 41%
Climate change 40%
Wall Street reform 39%
Minimum wage 37%
Free trade agreements36%
College tuition 24%

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July 6, 2016 - 15:55

Carson Edwards

Terrorism always causes people to get stupidly spooked.

July 6, 2016 - 15:59

Christian Martinez

Oh what a surprise, polling of dem-leaning independents in addition to actual dems shows the country favors Bernie to Clinton.

Shit, good, shit, ugh, good, TOP ECH, shit, good, good, good, good, good, good, good.
What the fuck??

July 6, 2016 - 16:14

Connor Martin

Warren is a senator in a state with a Republican governor if she was VP dems would lose a seat

July 6, 2016 - 17:03

Brayden King

Alright nerds, the Republicans want Comey to elaborate on why he made his decision, but like I've said his decision was based on no harm done and no intent to harm. When Wikileaks releases documents on Clinton that may change, and he may say so himself tomorrow.

July 6, 2016 - 17:04

Nathan Robinson

Literal non-issues

July 6, 2016 - 17:06

Adam Clark

wew
You're right about all the others though.

July 6, 2016 - 17:08

Noah Gutierrez

To be fair, a lot of those (terrorism/security/military, SS, guns…) are sort of real issues, purely on the grounds of getting everyone else to shut up about them, to stop the waste of time and money.

I'd also add ““““‘immigration reform’”””” as a real issue (though in the opposite direction from what the survey probably meant)

July 6, 2016 - 18:11

Brandon White

electionnightmares.com/archives/date/2016/07
July 5th, 2016
(1/2)

July 6, 2016 - 18:19

Isaac Kelly

(2/2)

July 6, 2016 - 18:20

Jaxon Richardson

Hang all democrats

July 6, 2016 - 18:35

Ian Morales

I know he's reformist socdem scum, but I can't help root for him on occasion.

July 6, 2016 - 18:48

Brandon Bennett

Oh shit, not sure why i put that there lmao

July 6, 2016 - 18:58

Jackson Barnes

you probably meant religious freedom right below…

July 6, 2016 - 19:08

Caleb Jenkins

>foxnews.com/politics/2016/07/06/key-lawmaker-demands-answers-from-fbi-after-comey-clears-clinton.html
Inb4 they confirm what I've been saying about Wikileaks.
Post YFW indictments are imminent

July 6, 2016 - 19:47

Eli Foster

...

July 6, 2016 - 20:03

Aiden Phillips

upi.com/Top_News/US/2016/07/06/Sanders-may-officially-endorse-Clinton-next-week-reports-say/5671467849486/

Benedict Arnold, why am I not surprised.

July 6, 2016 - 20:07

Luke Williams

I want to believe but my heart has been broken too many times already

July 6, 2016 - 20:07

Jaxson Ramirez

People who vote for Hillary: They deserve to be shot.
People who vote for Trump: They deserve to be shot

You deserve to be shot

July 6, 2016 - 20:09

Logan Jackson

Trump wants to break up the banks
Trump wants to break up big government
Sanders is out of the running, he's now licking Hillary's $420 imported pumps.
Time to face reality

July 6, 2016 - 20:11

David Jones

Trump wants your vote. Trump knows that saying that will get your vote. Trump has also said things that you really fucking don't want, but you're willing to admit those other statements are probably lies whereas the ones you like are definitely his real plan.
Get fucking real, dude.

July 6, 2016 - 20:21

Andrew Martinez

Trump has made more false campaign promises than fucking Obama.

Give me a god damn break you idiot

July 6, 2016 - 20:22

Joseph Edwards

Just like Obama ended the foreign wars of aggression and the erosion of citizens' rights in the name of terrorism, right? I'm sure a vague statement like "break up big government" is backed up with an honest, comprehensive plan for reform

July 6, 2016 - 20:25

Jack Diaz

You've been duped comrade

July 6, 2016 - 20:25

Jaxson Bell

...

July 6, 2016 - 20:31

Jace Richardson

I'm not seeing anything here actually indicating this to be the case, and I'll note that this rag is still parroting that wholly out-of-context quote that Sanders would vote for Clinton. Yeah, if he lost the nomination.

July 6, 2016 - 21:12

Noah Murphy

wsj.com/articles/anti-donald-trump-forces-see-convention-coup-as-within-reach-1467839099

ALT-RIGHT TEARS INCOMING

July 6, 2016 - 21:52

Hunter Miller

IT'S TIME

July 6, 2016 - 21:59

Benjamin Watson

...

July 6, 2016 - 22:04

Lucas Campbell

bet you every Dem that booed in there is knee deep in corrupt campaign fiancing.

July 6, 2016 - 22:20

Evan Smith

yes I'm sure all he said about transforming America was "self-obsessed"

July 6, 2016 - 22:24

Evan Sullivan

ahahahahahaha

July 6, 2016 - 22:25

Parker Harris

you mean more rhetoric about defending the status quo and global trade and keeping Wallstreet untouched?

July 6, 2016 - 22:27

Matthew Ross

No you shit. No. Shut the fuck up and listen to me you big nigger. Even after Comey explained his reasoning, Assange was confident that he had info to indict Hillary with, he just wasn't sure it was going to happen. Comey could come out and say "you're not getting an inch out of me with this, I'm not budging and don't ask me again" and Dems would still be in full panic mode because there would be every reason to indict her with no grey area shit. Either that or Assange has no idea what he's doing or saying, which is demonstratably false.

Get happy.

Second best case scenario right here. "We already stopped Trump," he could say. Of course, unless she and probably also Trump end up dropping out later on, it'd just go to the HoR who would hand it to Jeb or whoever no matter how close to 270 he was, but it would still make a statement and get funding for the Greens.

July 6, 2016 - 22:30

Aiden Gonzalez

I like to believe Sanders has come too far with so many people behind him. He knows that just outright endorsing Hillary will burst that balloon of enthusiasm. I think he feels obligated to see this thing through and stand by the principles that elevated his polling numbers from 3%. It will be a sad day if he endorses Hillary unconditionally.

July 6, 2016 - 22:31

Wyatt Ortiz

>"We already stopped Trump. Now it's time to stop Clinton."

Trump's numbers are in free fall, and after the FBI basically said Hillary is unfit to be President and Wikileaks drops what they have, Hillary will start tanking as well. Nobody will give a shit about whoever the Republicans pick. Bernie has a real shot of getting 270 the way this is going. The main obstacle would be registering as an independent in all the states before the deadlines. Also, if the HoR picked Jeb! that would not only be marginally better than Clinton or Trump, but it would also wake even more people up to just how rigged the system is.

July 6, 2016 - 22:35

Grayson Gutierrez

I assure you that a lot of people won't care if their party nominates Satan himself, they will still vote for their party's candidate. That's part of why Hillary (or, potentially, her replacement?) needs to go. This is actually a significant portion of the vote, and then everyone else is stuck in a mindset that says nobody outside of the two parties can win.

You are right about one thing- just about the only person the Republicans have that isn't an uninteresting nobody is Rubio or by a stretch Christie, any other candidate will be anathema for anyone even remotely independent. They will get the cuckservative vote and that's about it.

It's go green or go home for Bernie, no reason to run against Jill Stein and not have their money and support. He's been flying solo for too long and there's no drawbacks to going with them since anything he doesn't like about the party goes away as soon as he says so.

Don't take this the wrong way, but are you American? Or maybe you just live in a better region than I do. Because a lot, a lot, a lot of people here in Texas are of the mindset I described above.

Like I've said elsewhere (not recently), accelerationism is always a Plan B and not a Plan A. A lot of shit will go down if you go full Posadism and none of it will be good. You resort to accelerationism when events are beyond your control. We sure as hell don't want a Ted/Jeb with the Republicans controlling Congress already. But if we get one, we need to know how to exploit it.

God I love 2016. PROMESA, Brexit and Mayday election all in one year. Apocalypse when?

July 6, 2016 - 22:49

Noah Martin

Ben Garrisoning Hillary Clinton
Holla Forums actually has a good idea for once
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/80029001/part-3-operation-kkklinton

July 6, 2016 - 23:04

David Peterson

why. it will never be right. If they have enough influence to get to be president at this point, they're worthless.

Do you know how this game fucking works

July 6, 2016 - 23:06

Elijah Bennett

facebook.com/msnbc/videos/1226688364094080/
IT'S NOT HAPPENING

July 6, 2016 - 23:10

Dominic Lewis

ayyyyyyyyyyyy lmao

July 6, 2016 - 23:59

Caleb Miller

It would make more sense to meme her into a member of the Klan. She's already done racist shit.

July 7, 2016 - 00:06

Hunter Johnson

Slow and steady wins the race.

July 7, 2016 - 00:58

Landon Williams

WSWS was right AGAIN

July 7, 2016 - 05:55

Adam Morgan

wooswoos is right uncomfortably often

July 7, 2016 - 06:04

Aaron White

That's shitty journalism.

Sanders has a fucking rally scheduled for the eve of the convention. He's going to fight in Philly.

July 7, 2016 - 06:44

Jacob Baker

for the record this person has said themselves they use this as a shitposting flag. don't respond

No new information was picked up from this other than a new rumor floating around that he'll endorse her. Which wouldn't even be that bad as far as he's concerned given she's already picked up all the major parts of his platform (except foreign policy) and if she reneges so can he. But trust me he's not stupid enough to declare victory on the platform and so-and-so before the convention.
See this:

July 7, 2016 - 06:49

Carter Parker

Notice how the anti-Sanders brigade wants to remain anonymous. Notice how the pro-Sanders representative was open about his identity.

They want your vote but not your goals.

July 7, 2016 - 06:52

Samuel Hernandez

Oh by the way Comey will be on CSPAN3 in 8 minutes. If someone gave a rundown that'd be great.

July 7, 2016 - 06:53

Ryder Moore

Oh, I noticed alright.

July 7, 2016 - 06:53

Jeremiah Williams

c-span.org/video/?412315-1/fbi-director-james-comey-testifies-hillary-clinton-email-probe

July 7, 2016 - 07:00

Zachary Phillips

By the way, doing anything but support Hillary at this point would be stupid on Bernie's behalf. 71% of the voter-base says he ought do it, so if he wants to stay popular enough to win some berniecrat seats in congress in two years, this is the way to go.

July 7, 2016 - 07:08

Sebastian Murphy

wew lad
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kys

July 7, 2016 - 07:11

Robert Sullivan

If Bernie is going to support Hillary then he and all his initiatives ought to be abandoned. If his only objective is to get reformist "Berniecrats" into a bourgeois party then he's a traitor to the cause of socialism and any further attention or support would be a waste of time and resources.

July 7, 2016 - 07:13

Matthew Johnson

I wish these fucking reps would shut the hell up and get on with it.

July 7, 2016 - 07:15

Tyler Miller

Rep. Elijah Cummings is really going to bat for Hillary, trying to paint this whole hearing as some sort of Republican smear on Hilldawg.

July 7, 2016 - 07:18

Ryder Perry

Duge all this is conditional but it's quite likely that it will be her or Trump and it will be very close, and it's just a fact that we'd rather have her for every reason including the socialist cause. His endorsement would tip the scales, and also put him back in good or decent graces with the party.

Tell me how it goes. Gotta blast.

July 7, 2016 - 07:18

Gavin Wood

Holy shit, Congress is going to give the FBI a referral to investigate clintons statements under oath. She literally said under oath in Congress she didn't send or receive classified info and the FBI already said that was false

July 7, 2016 - 07:32

Parker Perez

Shoo shoo CTR.

July 7, 2016 - 07:45

Henry Hall

hurr motherfucking durr

July 7, 2016 - 07:49

Gabriel Wilson

I hope that at least you're not doing it for free.

July 7, 2016 - 07:55

Alexander Adams

Pottery.

July 7, 2016 - 07:58

Robert Murphy

This is true, the only arguments against Hillary are either based in a fantasy that she's indicted and Barnie Sandles will get the nomination or poorly thought out accelerationist arguments for Trump.

July 7, 2016 - 08:00

Jordan Howard

Hillary Clinton has a track record of destabilizing nations and overthrowing democratically elected leaders for personal and political gain. What has Trump ever done in his entire life that even approaches such an atrocity.

The arguments against Trump boil down to either "he's a porky" or "he's a dick." The former applies equally to Hillary, and being a dick is pretty meaningless when you put it up against an actual tyrant.

July 7, 2016 - 08:02

Leo Moore

What the fuck?

July 7, 2016 - 08:17

Luke Jackson

Hey hey ho ho

CTR has got to go

July 7, 2016 - 08:25

Leo Baker

Wow, they really must have threatened to kill his family.

July 7, 2016 - 08:29

Henry Gonzalez

>I will hold Hillary responsible for her emails when everyone is held responsible for their emails
Gee where have I heard this reasoning before?

July 7, 2016 - 08:32

Carter Rodriguez

...

July 7, 2016 - 08:37

Henry Gomez

>I will release my speeches when everyone else releases theirs.

July 7, 2016 - 08:40

Ryan Thompson

dis gon b gud

July 7, 2016 - 08:46

Oliver Garcia

...

July 7, 2016 - 08:51

William Diaz

...

July 7, 2016 - 08:52

Jaxon White

Holy shiiiiiiiiiiiit

July 7, 2016 - 08:54

Asher Diaz

youtu.be/QkwZ9xNZTyg alternate stream
tun.in/seqor audio stream

July 7, 2016 - 08:55

Hunter Price

...

July 7, 2016 - 09:11

Carter Stewart

...

July 7, 2016 - 09:19

William Turner

NOT UNDER OATH

July 7, 2016 - 09:20

Josiah Cruz

oh boy
How much longer is this going to go on for?

July 7, 2016 - 09:23

Jack Harris

Guys I'm about 10 minutes behind on the stream. Any shit go down?

July 7, 2016 - 09:29

Brayden Evans

Hold up, does that mean Wikileaks has nothing?

July 7, 2016 - 09:31

Joseph Morris

COMEY GETTING BTFO

July 7, 2016 - 09:32

Jack Reed

>Democrats harping about security and muh terrorism because they need some reason to deflect away from Hillary's obvious guilt
You cannot make this shit up.

July 7, 2016 - 09:37

Blake Gonzalez

It means that someone is lying.

July 7, 2016 - 09:42

Adam Harris

Comey was the one who said it.

July 7, 2016 - 09:46

Nolan Perez

I know right, Comey would never lie

July 7, 2016 - 09:50

Easton Brown

She's a piece of shit but she's a bland piece of shit and there's not much else to say.

July 7, 2016 - 09:52

Ryder Turner

...

July 7, 2016 - 09:55

Hudson Evans

I'm just saying who it was, mate.

July 7, 2016 - 09:55

Tyler Sanchez

She's running for president. It's kind of important if she's a security risk.

July 7, 2016 - 09:56

Alexander Cook

I don't give a shit about the security of the United States

July 7, 2016 - 09:57

Hudson Howard

wow shocker

July 7, 2016 - 10:03

Charles Nguyen

It does show how senile the American bourgeois state has become. They are caught in a contradiction between protecting Hillary because of her status and defending the interest of the bourgeois state as a whole.

July 7, 2016 - 10:04

Jacob Powell

...

July 7, 2016 - 10:05

Julian Roberts

When did I say everything was bout me? What on earth are you talking about.

True

July 7, 2016 - 10:05

Hudson Murphy

wew

July 7, 2016 - 10:08

Isaiah Lee

...

July 7, 2016 - 10:11

Christopher Martin

Presumably most people ITT at the moment are watching the hearing going on, the central issue of which is Hillary's flaunting of US national security. What has your opinion on US national security got to do with its relevance to the hearing about Hillary Clinton, somebody who's running to be in charge of the country? I don't really give a shit about security either, but Hillary has a history of meddling in foreign affairs, so I'm concerned for innocent people around the world that she might become president. Any rope that could be used to hang her is good in my book, especially if it happens before the convention.

July 7, 2016 - 10:13

Parker Price

...

July 7, 2016 - 10:18

Landon Jackson

I don't give a shit about this country as long as it isn't overtly going to shit.

This is practically business as usual, you just don't hear about it.

Agreed but don't think someone who replaces her, even Sanders, are particularly "good people".

Once you become soulless enough to run for president, you throw away your humanity to begin with.

lmfaoo

July 7, 2016 - 10:19

Juan Walker

...

July 7, 2016 - 10:20

Josiah Johnson

Wow that sure makes it easy for Comey to avoid any difficult questions about her answers.

July 7, 2016 - 10:23

Bentley Bailey

Where do you think we are? My measure of lesser evil is based on how many lives I expect to get ruined. I don't think Trump is proficient enough to fuck shit up on the scale that Hillary would, nor does he have near as much of an interest in fucking around with war. Whoever the Dems would drum up quickly would be better (it's a joke to think that Sanders would ever get the nomination), and they might have a chance to beat Trump with his current numbers.

July 7, 2016 - 10:26

Jackson Rogers

It's the opposite. But even then voting for either is an awful idea, neck yourself

July 7, 2016 - 10:29

Jack Wright

...

July 7, 2016 - 10:36

Colton Rodriguez

...

July 7, 2016 - 10:37

Blake Ramirez

Sometimes rationalizing who's "better" means that. Regardless, sorry for the implication.

July 7, 2016 - 10:38

Nathan Parker

Eh. I mean I've considered it, but a third party vote would be more useful. At this point it's too hard to predict what the options are going to look like by the time November rolls around to make that decision. I'd be very happy to see either or both Clinton/Trump to get gone.

July 7, 2016 - 10:43

Henry Ramirez

This is their defense.

July 7, 2016 - 10:44

Carter Sanchez

But she is different than John Doe. It's reasonable to think that the average person would fail to know without any prior contextualization that (C) means "classified." But Hillary isn't an average person. She's been in government, and especially the highest parts of government, for decades. She repeatedly affirmed she knew what she was doing and what's unreasonable is all the mental acrobatics Comey and the state is going through just to continue the fiction that not only did she do nothing wrong but that she couldn't or shouldn't be prosecuted.

July 7, 2016 - 10:53

Brody Torres

This is amazing.

July 7, 2016 - 10:55

Grayson Brown

I'm pretty certain that in the USA ignorance of the law is not a defence. It's certainly the case here in Canada. How exactly does it work, can a burger please clarify for me? I mean if ignorance of the law is a defence how do you keep justfying executing literal retards that can't even spell murder their IQ is so low?

July 7, 2016 - 11:12

Jackson Green

> once

July 7, 2016 - 11:13

Tyler Edwards

Good boy, Comey.

July 7, 2016 - 11:13

Sebastian Taylor

I'M WEWCLEAR

July 7, 2016 - 11:15

Chase Smith

Comey has literally said that the law is different in this context. One of the representatives who questioned him was a prosecutor and explained how many people he prosecuted who didn't understand that what they did was illegal. It's not even subtext at this point. At this point it's just text. They're outright saying there are different standards for regular people and ruling class.

July 7, 2016 - 11:15

Christian Sanders

==CHAFFETZ=

IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THE ATTORNEYS READ THE EMAILS

THEY HAD ACCESS TO THE EMAILS

THAT'S ENOUGH. SHE GAVE THEM ACCESS, WHEN THEY DIDN'T HAVE SECURITY CLEARANCES

July 7, 2016 - 11:18

Michael Jenkins

...

July 7, 2016 - 11:19

Jayden Torres

If the emails did not have the original/classified headers then how did the lawyers use headers in order to search for the emails that they never read because they were searching via headers?

July 7, 2016 - 11:22

Camden Robinson

Actually guys, this is even better in some ways.
He said what Hillary did would qualify as gross negligence but that you'd have to be crazy to prosecute because it's a statute that isn't used often. That means we don't have to wait on Wikileaks, and Wikileaks will just be added insult to injury.
Check it out-
>The sanctions available under the alternative means of disposition;
Hillary can totally have her security check removed.

No, the difference is that it's not ignorance of the law, it's ignorance regarding the e-mails classification status.

Probably not strictly speaking.

July 7, 2016 - 11:22

Benjamin Gutierrez

>Cummings literally lying by saying that the 3 emails with Confidential content marked with a (C) are the only emails with controversial content
There were emails that had Secret, Top Secret, and Special Access Program classifications.

July 7, 2016 - 11:23

Blake Roberts

I think none of the others were marked.

July 7, 2016 - 11:24

Alexander Thompson

by whom
If she gets elected president she gets her clearance back anyway.

July 7, 2016 - 11:25

Dominic Hernandez

Makes sense they won't address it I suppose, it would be against their collective interests…what a fucking circlejerk…

July 7, 2016 - 11:25

Cooper Sanders

And she specifically requested them to be transferred to "non-paper" versions for her private server. Unfortunately we can't see what those emails were, but if she was reading them on her server, of course she would be able to tell if they had classified content, particularly SAP content. That kind of shit is hard to mistake.

July 7, 2016 - 11:26

Julian Allen

Not true, it doesn't work like that. You can't have any job if you don't have the security clearances. They won't just give you the security clearances if you've already lost them. And she can't pardon herself either or Nixon would've done it, you can only pardon convicted felons and as soon as you're a convicted felon you can't be POTUS.

There's still reasonable doubt.

July 7, 2016 - 11:28

Ian Miller

fucking seriously
what were they doing for a god damn YEAR

July 7, 2016 - 11:28

Jacob Watson

I'd prefer not to answer that question publicly so as not to provide hostile enemies with information on what we know.

July 7, 2016 - 11:29

Brayden Fisher

I'm pretty sure they're not involved in that at all.

July 7, 2016 - 11:30

Thomas Scott

...

July 7, 2016 - 11:32

Lincoln James

Ok, so
Ok, so for this to make sense she would have had to not read that content once it got to her server. That raises the question of why she put it there in the first place. If she wasn't going to read this information, what was the purpose of putting it on the private server (to the point that she would insist twice)? This seems to suggest that there was some other purpose for it being there.

July 7, 2016 - 11:33

Jaxon Moore

AS AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN MAN

July 7, 2016 - 11:35

Camden Anderson

how is this the time or place

July 7, 2016 - 11:35

Jace Parker

LITERALLY CRYING

July 7, 2016 - 11:35

Sebastian Fisher

Is this fucking joker seriously trying to say that there is no evidence for the Guccifer hack?

July 7, 2016 - 11:36

Ayden Foster

What the fuck are they even talking about

July 7, 2016 - 11:36

Caleb Lopez

Cops killing black people

Also eating up time to try and keep from any more inconvenient questions being asked.

July 7, 2016 - 11:37

James Anderson

Token Black Senator sit the fuck down and shut up already.

July 7, 2016 - 11:37

Jaxon Sullivan

Cummings is sucking Comey's dick so hard they're both about to live up to their names.

July 7, 2016 - 11:38

Cameron Moore

SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY

July 7, 2016 - 11:39

Jonathan Barnes

BLOOD, SWEAT, AND TEARS

July 7, 2016 - 11:39

Jace Sullivan

The hyperbole is real…

July 7, 2016 - 11:40

Dominic Hall

wew

July 7, 2016 - 11:41

Lucas Mitchell

How can you not share information publicly if it doesn't matter whether or not you have security clearance

July 7, 2016 - 11:41

David Murphy

Wow a career bougie politician with a shit ton of money who got caught doing what they all probably do, isn't getting charged.

What a shock. It's almost like the bougie look after their own!

July 7, 2016 - 11:42

Jack Reed

Bill Clinton literally supporting executing a man who obliterated his frontal lobe in a botched suicide for murdering a cop. When given his last meal, the man didn't eat it, he wanted to save it for later, to give an idea of how mentally incapacitated he was.

Executing severely mentally disabled people is a-ok with Clintons (some have theorized Clinton wanted to make himself look tougher). Funny how a false notion of ignorance is now saving Hillary's ass.

July 7, 2016 - 11:45

Camden Sanders

Fuck off Hill shill.

July 7, 2016 - 11:48

Jacob Lopez

How am I shilling for Hillary. I'm calling her corrupt

July 7, 2016 - 11:49

Brayden Campbell

He's sees the anfem flag and loses the ability to think straight.

July 7, 2016 - 11:49

Samuel Perry

...

July 7, 2016 - 11:50

Eli Turner

it is a really shitty flag tbh fam

July 7, 2016 - 11:50

Adrian Baker

...

July 7, 2016 - 11:51

Jaxson Powell

I never said stop paying attention to Hillary. I said she's corrupt and we all know it. It's just not that much of a fucking surprise that people in the United States government are corrupt bougie piglets.

You see this and get mad and surprised, and I just don't understand because this should be expected.

None of that, above, is "shilling for Hillary". How the fuck is that shilling?

July 7, 2016 - 11:53

Juan Collins

Did he ever answer why Hillary was a special case?

July 7, 2016 - 11:53

Levi Clark

Because nothing like this had happened before and the espionage act was apparently to old to apply and had only been applied once, which was somehow not enough for precedence.

July 7, 2016 - 11:57

Grayson Wood

PURE
COINCIDENCE

July 7, 2016 - 12:05

Jeremiah Perry

FTFY
Exactly when has the mainstream media ever focused on gory flashy stories with graphic footage over monotonous governmental proceedings…
Seriously?

July 7, 2016 - 12:16

Michael Morales

Obviously, but there's no proof.

Oh, more than that, he said Guccifer admitted he was lying. Wikileaks has neither confirmed nor denied this, but they did spit up tens of thousands of examples of the (C) indicator being used at her, which makes it very doubtful that she didn't know what it meant, which changes things, but Comey is unlikely to notice or care. Like I've said that doesn't mean a prosecutor won't.

The Lynch panel is unlikely to change anything unless they dispute Comey's claims of plausibility with what I mentioned above.

July 7, 2016 - 14:28

Jordan Hall

You can't make this shit up.

July 7, 2016 - 15:03

Daniel Phillips

That means little to me.

July 7, 2016 - 15:09

Ryder Scott

I'm so confused
So did guccifier actually get into Clinton's server or not?

July 7, 2016 - 16:24

Parker Bennett

Itds habbipimg you guys. The state department is reopening their own investigation. They're the ones with the authority to remove security clearances, I think.
Occasion theme-
youtube.com/watch?v=e6ORWS6_Sts
Holla Forums was right again. Or at least that one other guy was.

It would seem not.

July 7, 2016 - 16:54

Hunter Williams

So Guccifer in fact didn't hack anything and yet he was in jail and he killed himself because he thought he was going to remain in jail for a long time? Something smells like bullshit here.

July 7, 2016 - 17:04

Blake Ross

snopes.com/guccifer-missing-from-jail-cell/

July 7, 2016 - 17:08

Jackson Sullivan

It appears I've been taken for a ruse.

July 7, 2016 - 17:11

Luis Diaz

...

July 7, 2016 - 19:10

Robert Wood

...

July 7, 2016 - 19:13

Chase Perry

He is wrong, user.

July 7, 2016 - 19:21

Gabriel Hall

literally how

July 7, 2016 - 19:23

Justin Nguyen

Well, he is not wrong.

July 7, 2016 - 19:25

Nathan Garcia

yea nah

July 7, 2016 - 19:33

Michael Lee

...

July 7, 2016 - 19:40

Jonathan Baker

It wasn't funny the first time, fam

July 7, 2016 - 19:42

Ryan Mitchell

I am so confident that the State Department investigation will go well that if they end up not doing anything about it I'm putting a sharpie in my pooper. Screencap this.
And also inb4 Bernie VP. Clinton wins, hopefully, however narrowly, then gets BTFO by State and we end up with Bernie and someone like Gabbard or Turner or Warren as VP.

July 7, 2016 - 23:01

Cooper Nelson

Disregard this, I suck cocks and apparently the president doesn't really have much of a clearance and doesn't need one which means all the probe can do is hurt her feelings and chances.

July 7, 2016 - 23:09

Evan Bell

alright Holla Forums how do you think tonight's porkroast will impact the election? how long until trump tweets #bluelivesmatter?

July 7, 2016 - 23:14

Isaiah Garcia

Wait what's going down.

July 7, 2016 - 23:25

Evan Cruz

shit's going down in Dallas yo

July 7, 2016 - 23:30

Joshua Nelson

Nothing will happen. I live here.

July 7, 2016 - 23:34

Bentley Reed

It already did happen, nigguh

July 7, 2016 - 23:36

Jackson Rogers

As in it won't impact the election because police will come crackdown.

July 7, 2016 - 23:37

Luke Jenkins

...

July 8, 2016 - 02:40

Daniel Evans

FBI director defends decision not to prosecute Hillary Clinton
wsws.org/en/articles/2016/07/08/fbi-j08.html

By Patrick Martin
8 July 2016

July 8, 2016 - 09:03

Logan White

...

July 8, 2016 - 09:04

Jaxson Wilson

Except he's not a true lefty since he was working for Clinton by stirring up Liberal sentiment in young people all along.

July 8, 2016 - 09:25

Easton Powell

stay strong bernie sander supporters

July 8, 2016 - 09:37

Cooper Davis

...

July 8, 2016 - 09:39

Adrian Young

...

July 8, 2016 - 09:41

Camden Thomas

Keep it up lad.

July 8, 2016 - 09:45

Blake Phillips

Jill Stein invites Bernie Sanders to take over Green Party ticket
theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/08/jill-stein-bernie-sanders-green-party

Bernie Sanders has been invited to continue his underdog bid for the White House by the Green party’s probable presidential candidate, who has offered to step aside to let him run.

Jill Stein, who is expected to be endorsed at the party’s August convention in Houston, told Guardian US that “overwhelming” numbers of Sanders supporters are flocking to the Greens rather than Hillary Clinton.

Stein insisted that her presidential bid has a viable “near term goal” of reaching 15% in national polling, which would enable her to stand alongside presumptive nominees Clinton and Donald Trump in televised election debates.

“I’ve invited Bernie to sit down explore collaboration – everything is on the table,” she said. “If he saw that you can’t have a revolutionary campaign in a counter-revolutionary party, he’d be welcomed to the Green party. He could lead the ticket and build a political movement,” she said.

“If he continues to declare his full faith in the Democratic party, it will leave many of his supporters very disappointed,” she said. “That political movement is going to go on – it isn’t going to bury itself in the graveyard alongside Hillary Clinton.”

July 8, 2016 - 10:11

Jacob Lewis

...

July 8, 2016 - 10:21

Henry Martinez

Man this woman is fuckin top

July 8, 2016 - 10:22

Ryder Morgan

do it Bernie. Do it for all of us.

July 8, 2016 - 11:22

Sebastian Parker

I've read the Greens aren't on the ballot across all 50 states, if Bernie were to join is there still time to have them added to the ballot everywhere? Can you get enough vote to become President if you run as Green?

July 8, 2016 - 12:25

James Brown

I wish they would release it already.

July 8, 2016 - 13:20

Adrian White

Right? What's the fucking holdup?

July 8, 2016 - 13:23

Daniel Evans

Dead niggers and cops.

July 8, 2016 - 13:26

Julian Miller

She's probably one of the most powerful people in the world right now, and certainly has the backing of most other big players. Hell thanks to her effective deployment of Trump the Republican Party is bleeding high profile members who are more than happy to rally behind Clinton. Do you really think they want to give that all up? We may be seeing the rise of a Singapore-style one-party "democracy." Hell her campaign has been marked by Lee Kuan Yew's signature move, charging opponents with libel, except this time it's the court of public opinion instead of the court of law.

Fuck you Bernie you better not endorse her

July 8, 2016 - 14:14

Noah Diaz

HNNNNNNNNG
I love this confidence in what they have. Clearly Assange is as certain as one can be that what he has is good to be waving it around like a maniac. He didn't even do this shit over PRISM. Here's hoping he understands the law. If he's got anything classified, Hillary is fucked. If he's got anything Hillary obviously intentionally deleted, Hillary is fucked. If he's got both, Hillary is double fucked.

Strategic placement. CTR won't have any time to spindoctor if he drops it like two or three days before the convention.

July 8, 2016 - 14:39

Samuel Edwards

Shoo Shoo Anfem Poster

July 8, 2016 - 14:39

Luis Morris

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/751202198101626882

July 8, 2016 - 15:00

Caleb Martinez

Oh for fuck's sake. Just release the files, you cunts.

July 8, 2016 - 15:19

Blake White

Do I smell bacon?

July 8, 2016 - 15:29

Nolan Ward

...

July 8, 2016 - 15:32

Juan Parker

JUST DO IT

July 8, 2016 - 15:48

Julian Davis

...

July 8, 2016 - 19:40

Luke Williams

Is it weird that I want to fuck Jill Stein? I'm not, like, physically attracted to her but I have like this feeling of respect where she deserves to be sexually serviced.

July 8, 2016 - 20:20

Henry Gutierrez

HNNNNNG

July 8, 2016 - 20:22

Matthew Hall

I don't think every state allows third parties.

July 8, 2016 - 20:22

Wyatt Nelson

It needs to be a slow news cycle so it won't get buried by dead cops n shit.

July 8, 2016 - 20:23

Ryan Price

Why is she so based?
youtube.com/watch?v=9N_jWAZeIZE

July 8, 2016 - 20:28

Robert Baker

...

July 8, 2016 - 21:33

David Bennett

Stein is only on the ballot in 22 States.

July 8, 2016 - 21:34

Dylan Turner

Pretty sure Gary Johnson's on the ballot in all 50 states fam

July 8, 2016 - 21:39

Jonathan Reyes

And is it too late to be added in more states? So if Bernie were to run as Green could he win presidency w/only 22 states, or does this trigger Marvel's Murcan Civil War 2™?

July 8, 2016 - 21:45

Josiah Hughes

Gary Johnson is basically an American version of Angela Merkel. If you want the USA to be turned into a wasteland in only 8 years, vote for him.

July 8, 2016 - 21:49

Joseph Peterson

Bernie should have run as Green from the start, but he has always been a Democratic proxy and had no intention of beating Hillary Clinton. Imagine what the Greens could have done with $150 million dollars of donations

July 8, 2016 - 21:51

Bentley Ortiz

The traction he got would most likely have never happened if he had not run as dem

July 8, 2016 - 21:52

Jordan Jackson

Where'd you get the impression I'd vote for Johnson,if I was a burger. I was only saying that I'd read that Johnson was on the ballot in all 50 states, so the user saying certain states did not allow 3rd parties on the ballot didn't sound right.

July 8, 2016 - 21:56

Anthony Johnson

No it isn't too late. It depends on the state. In my state we have until the end of August to get 3300 signatures for her to be listed on the ballot as Independent. We're about 500 signatures now and gaining momentum so I'm beginning to actually think this may be doable.

July 8, 2016 - 22:17

Jacob Morgan

I disagree, when Ralph Nader went green, the part suddenly got a lot of legitimacy, then Nader had to cave in to all the weed smokers and push silly pot legalization initiatives rather than more important shit that actually mattered.
Bernie would have been great as a Green party candidate, certainly the democratic party did nothing to help sanders, they were busy trying to destroy him from the very day he announced his candidacy.

July 8, 2016 - 22:19

Liam Roberts

Running against major-party candidates outside the two-party system under FPTP is a futile gesture. There was absolutely no downside to running inside one of the primaries. Sanders' actual mistake was failure to aggressively attack electoral fraud by the Clinton campaign.

The only possible reason to run 3rd party is if you think you can hit 15% and get funds/debate presence in the general.

July 8, 2016 - 22:21

Juan Gutierrez

Nader started out as a dem like bernie though didnt he? user was saying green from the start

July 8, 2016 - 23:18

Wyatt Campbell

Bernie has never, ever been a member of the Democratic party in his life before this election.

July 8, 2016 - 23:25

Benjamin Clark

He started the primary campaing as one is what i meant

July 8, 2016 - 23:28

Andrew Richardson

And all im saying is that if bernie started out as a green party candidate like suggested, that he probably would have never gotten the traction or following that he did

July 8, 2016 - 23:37

Grayson Peterson

/fit/ made me gay.
/d/ made me gay.
Holla Forums made me hate women.
Holla Forums made me hate women.
Holla Forums gave me a granny fetish.

July 9, 2016 - 02:42

Brody Lopez

US unemployment rate rises despite rebound in new jobs

wsws.org/en/articles/2016/07/09/jobs-j09.html

By Tom Hall
9 July 2016

July 9, 2016 - 09:20

Benjamin Gomez

how the fuck does that work?

July 9, 2016 - 09:51

Daniel Fisher

The total amount of unemployed people grew faster than the number of jobs "created."

July 9, 2016 - 10:00

Brandon Gonzalez

youtube.com/watch?v=YLwtKb4MV88

for fucks sake

He's not gonna do it. He has invested too much in building his "progressive" movement inside the democratic party to leave it at this point.

Also, he has been invited for half a decade now and he has never responded to the Greens. He acts like if they didn't exist, probably because they don't exist in over half the states in the country.

July 9, 2016 - 10:25

Xavier Ramirez

Like said, this is just more blather from the chattering classes in the media. He's already said he's taking it to the convention.

Regardless of whether or not he secures the nomination, he must permanently soil the legitimacy of the Clinton campaign and remind them that the people are more hostile to the political establishment than they have been in decades. Whoever wins the general election must be placed firmly in a defensive stance against the loudest populist political demands in decades.

That is what Sanders must do, and from public statements he's actually issued so far, that is what he will do.

July 9, 2016 - 11:32

Kevin Perry

If anything, this would make his supporters angry and drive them away from her, toward the other candidates.

July 9, 2016 - 14:15

Isaiah Green

bigstory.ap.org/article/3dc3fd563c8949069daec89768a765e1/sanders-stalls-effort-oppose-trade-deal-platform
Sanders stalls in effort to oppose trade deal in platform

July 9, 2016 - 15:44

William Reyes

Fuck. This fucking trade deal is going to kill us all. I just want my memes man.

Before this gets ratified, I'm going to want an archive of Stirner/Zizek pretty much a shitload of lefty literature.

July 9, 2016 - 16:19

Angel Clark

This has been his tone since Obama's endorsement. His statements on Brexit and these trade deals has been one of warning, that the political elite are courting disaster by ignoring the needs of the people.

The Democrats response to these alarms confirms that idea. As seen here , they naively believe that can just take over Bernie populist movement by just getting him to endorse Hillary. They're so out of touch that they're going to lose the election and won't know why.

July 9, 2016 - 17:56

Owen Jenkins

Alright, so here's current standing. It appears as though Bernie will endorse Clinton. I thought I would kill myself if it happened but now I don't seem to mind. Why? Because the last thing she hasn't pledged is opposition to trade agreements (and PROMESA, but what's done is done (it feels so bad (what once was happy now is sad (I'll never love again (my world (is (en (ding)))))))). If we can get her to do that, and she wins the presidency, we can put her under extreme scrutiny so she is heavily discouraged from fucking things up with her bullshit. The only thing keeping this from being foolproof is war, but I think we can hold her feet to the fire on that one too.

July 9, 2016 - 18:46

Benjamin James

What are you even talking about

July 9, 2016 - 18:55

Jaxson Taylor

All these rumors are swirling about that Bernie plans to endorse Hillary Tuesday, but that's because the platform war has mostly been won. If they have effectively the same platform, personal reasons aside, it makes sense for him to endorse her.

July 9, 2016 - 18:59

David Bailey

You know we're talking about Hillary, right?
She's pandering.

July 9, 2016 - 19:23

Chase Nelson

The fuck? No it hasn't. They shot down nearly every one of his surrogates' platform proposals.

July 9, 2016 - 19:34

Luis Fisher

Which would be better Bernie keeping in the race running independent or should he drop out entirely and support a third party? What would get more votes if we don't see the decline of Hillary? People should decide this then start writing to Bernie to make him know.

July 9, 2016 - 19:46

Matthew Evans

I kinda figured that would happen I have no real friends

July 9, 2016 - 19:50

Lucas Lewis

Take the opportunity to make some when you get kettled

July 9, 2016 - 19:54

Lincoln Barnes

But we can hold her to it.

Old news.

July 9, 2016 - 19:57

Alexander Turner

No you can't, she's getting her four years regardless of what she does and odds are there won't be a solid opponent for the reelection either. The establishment won that fight, you better start thinking of new places to battle.

July 9, 2016 - 19:59

Adam White

You shut up, peasant. They passed a 15 dollar minimum wage.

July 9, 2016 - 20:14

Cooper Foster

don't delude yourself kid. hillary will answer only to her owners.

July 9, 2016 - 20:26

Liam Adams

Oh what fucking planet bucko

July 9, 2016 - 20:46

Henry Gutierrez

orly?

July 9, 2016 - 21:46

Camden King

Anyone else feeling a bit turned off by the green party's hippiness voting for Monica Moorehead from WWP?

July 9, 2016 - 22:05

Daniel Baker

remember to not vote democrat in november, because this is what they think of you:

dailycamera.com/guest-opinions/ci_30110193/michael-dannerbeck-bernie-berners-go-bust

July 9, 2016 - 23:04

Evan Anderson

...

July 9, 2016 - 23:06

Sebastian Nelson

>dailycamera.com/guest-opinions/ci_30110193/michael-dannerbeck-bernie-berners-go-bust
archive.is/oC6rR
I want whoever wrote this to outlive all of his loved ones and die homeless, holy shit liberalism is cancer.

July 9, 2016 - 23:11

Gabriel Bell

Man, I'm not even clicking on the archive link to this insipid shit.

July 9, 2016 - 23:14

James Scott

thanks, I forgot to archive

yeah it's a few paragraphs of whining (of how the center left has to be only polite enough to the "far" left so we will shut up), but this is EXACTLY what most center liberals think of us. They just want us to go away, but don't have the balls to say it like Holla Forums does.

July 9, 2016 - 23:20

Landon Price

I wonder if this election is what we need to kill TPP and its ilk before Obama's term is even over.

Third party run would be an empty gesture without a right-winger to balance him against Hillary. The only reasonable course of action would be to send all the inertia of this presidential campaign downballot, and chew through the establishment's ankles at the state/local level.

Kettle the police, and try to indoctrinate them.

The whole thing is trite and absurd, but by far the most delusional part is:
These people truly don't understand how high the tsunami rolling into them is. If Trump is kicked out of the convention, he'll go Bull Moose and bury their candidate. If Sanders were more confrontational, he would've created a circus around the blatant vote rigging from day one of the primaries and asphyxiated the DNC in red tape from court orders.

The "mainstream" in Europe is already going up in flames, and the writing is on the wall for their American counterparts. If not this election, unquestionably the next one.

July 10, 2016 - 01:39

Robert Hernandez

...

July 10, 2016 - 04:13

Zachary Cooper

You seem forget most neoliberal/Democrats are politically retarded. Hence why they voted for her in the first place over Bernie(there's hope in the long run though, even with the rigging Bernie had a strong showing). The media is a strong enemy.

Neoliberals/elites are also a strong enemy.

July 10, 2016 - 05:14

Jack Harris

Hey CTR

July 10, 2016 - 05:17

Joshua Thompson

You're not alone in this regard, here. This is why I stopped using fb altogether.

Also because I can't seem to stay in touch with people for some reason. I was in an abusive relationship for years where he cut off my friends + but mainly being addicted to drugs at the same time(shitty "friends" that I did have). That seemed to do a number on my social life.

I think you'll be fine though, the fact you actually attempted to post & get some people together. You still care.. That's a good thing, lmao. Maybe some people here would have some advice on how to meet people.. School & smoking weed helped me. Weed connects a lot of people. Maybe during the protests & rallies around the convention will be a good place to meet people. If I were in the country I'd damn sure be going. You'll find like-minded people.

July 10, 2016 - 05:28

Tyler Miller

s-sauce??????????

July 10, 2016 - 06:40

David Howard

Don't say I never did anything for you

nhentai.net/g/83198/

July 10, 2016 - 06:48

Nathaniel Murphy

We could run a counter campaign acting like right wingers to persuade Trump voters to go third parties but change which third party mentioned to each one tailored to their biggest interest. Also a small number of the would be Tump voters are Democrats so they can be persuaded back to the left in a lefty third party. A lot of people for Hillary as lesser of two evils might not realize they have other options so there would be a few more votes there. Also I managed to stop one Nazi from wanting Trump by pointing out how much a Zionist he is and how his daughter is a Jew. Another possibility is going for a third party that both Republicans and Democrats would go for, something more neutral like the Reform Party.

I'm not too familiar with it unfortunately as I am not used to focusing on it.

July 10, 2016 - 07:13

Jordan Sanders

The party split is inevitable now. They're all to stupid to see the train that's about to hit them.

Get ready for liberal rage when they lose the presidential election to a fucking orange.

July 10, 2016 - 08:14

William Diaz

My idea: bernie runs third party, his vp is a religious black guy who i made up in my head and is appealing to Christians and blacks and is against poverty pope francis style

July 10, 2016 - 09:06

Michael Flores

Why don't we just clone Bernie so then he can be both president Bernie Sanders and vice president Sernie Banders?

July 10, 2016 - 09:13

Christopher Russell

Bernies biggest problem was with the south, the south is filled with Christian and blacks.
A Christian is rightwing enough to be appealing to the trump crowd but stable enough to fight poverty and not be racist, also if he was black then black people might consider bernie instead of blindly voting shillarry.

Of course i made this person up in my head it s basically MLK

July 10, 2016 - 09:17

James Wright

Oh fuck off. Clinton still isn't out of the hot water with her emails and if she ignores the base she could very well be primaried 4 years from now, or worst comes to worst be remembered as the worst president ever.

You too.

July 10, 2016 - 12:16

Jacob Stewart

guys
guys
Do you know that Hillary Clinton Will Face Perjury Charges for Lying to Benghazi Committee?

youtube.com/watch?v=0pv6yn0VsZo

July 10, 2016 - 12:24

Grayson Williams

Why, it's not our fault you're retarded.

July 10, 2016 - 12:25

Nathan Davis

I doubt it

July 10, 2016 - 12:41

Cooper Lopez

...

July 10, 2016 - 12:44

John Nelson

But she is going to ignore the base. You haven't been paying attention to this election very well. The DNC are completely removed from reality. Them running Hillary as the next Obama should've clued you into that fact.

They're not going to compromise on anything because as far as they're concerned, WE'RE the ones who need to compromise and get in line behind their queen. They don't need to do shit.

And yes, it's going to cost them the election, in both in the Presidential and Congressional races.

July 10, 2016 - 13:02

Hudson Morris

shut the fuck up bernie

July 10, 2016 - 13:04

Jason Rodriguez

Go kill yourself. I'm running for state senate as a Berniecrat and will be doing everything to help end neoliberalism in the Democratic Party. Not everyone who disagrees with you is a shill.

And, for once, the base will rise up against them and demand representation or consequences. If they win, we win, and if they lose, we also win. Them losing the white house would kill the party and let us make our own in the void and them winning the white house means we get more time to throw over all their officials. Of course Hillary can pull off whatever shit she likes, but she's going to have a larger and larger portion of the party to answer to. If anything, her being a good girl is the worst thing we could hope for because anything short of that would result in an American version of the Great Blairite Purge.

That's the key- they think they can get away with agreeing to do this shit and not actually doing it, but that's not going to work this time because people see it coming and know what it looks like. Hillary may have more or less free roam, but she will be the death of her breed.

July 10, 2016 - 14:17

Wyatt Howard

Good luck with your run, but you need to be realistic. You simply will not EVER get Hillary and the Clintonites to implement solid reforms. You are going to be fighting them every step of the way, and the ONLY way you'll get anything is by completely overpowering them. Persuasion and bargaining will not work.

July 10, 2016 - 14:19

David Scott

Exactly. We'll overpower them, throw out all their officials and starve them of power until they purge themselves.

July 10, 2016 - 14:41

Christopher Long

Just came into this thread to say godspeed to you, brave sir. Not everyone has the balls to get involved in politics for the right reasons, and I tip my hat to you. Good luck in everything you do!

P.S. When you ascend to the highest offices in the country, please tell us if it's anything like the show Veep.

July 10, 2016 - 15:02

Anthony Miller

So.. Vote for her!

July 10, 2016 - 15:07

Jordan Jackson

Or don't. Like I've said 95,283,512,236,708 times before, I would personally vote Stein if you're in a solid state and whoever the Democrat is if you're in a swing state.

July 10, 2016 - 15:10

Jaxson Fisher

I won't, ever.

No one should vote for her under any circumstances.

Like I've said 95,000,000+ times, if more people voted on principle & weren't fooled into voting for only a "major" candidate, we'd actually have some variety on our ticket for once instead of only shit candidates.

July 10, 2016 - 15:13

Brody Hughes

archive.is/SWZ2Q
The Wu-Tang Clan endorsed Shillary
brb burning all my albums now

July 10, 2016 - 15:31

Parker Gomez

Confirmation: Bernie won California by at least 100,000 votes
richardcharnin.wordpress.com/2016/07/10/confirmation-bernie-won-california-by-at-least-100000-votes/

Richard Charnin

July 10, 2016

According to Greg Palast: Bernie won CA by at least 100,000 votes. washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/06/27/still-sanders-activists-cling-to-hope-of-flipping-california/

“They said, with 100 percent of precincts reporting, Hillary Clinton has won by 400,000 votes,” Palast said of the media. “Now, I want you to say this number with me: 1,959,900. That’s the number of ballots that were not yet counted. How do you say an election’s over when there are 2 million ballots left to count?”

According to Palast, those ballots had the potential to flip the election. Based on a call to the secretary of state’s office, he estimated that all of the outstanding ballots were from “no party preference” voters; based on a pre-primary poll, he estimated a 40 percentage point margin for Sanders among those ballots.

“Bernie Sanders got at least 1.25 million votes from that pile,” Palast said. “The good news is that Bernie won California. … If you count every ballot, Sanders would win by 100,000.”

J.T. Waldron writes at electionnightmares.com/archives/564

>Despite California counting only 65% of the ballots on election day, media outlets like Politico and The New York Times ceased from covering the rest of the count, which leaves its audience assuming a literal interpretation of “100% of the precincts reporting”, but that statement does not mean all the votes are counted. It only means precinct ballots from all of the precincts have been counted, but there are many vote-by-mail and provisional ballots that have yet to be included in this total.

>In fact, the cumulative count in days following California’s election day proved to be riveting to many Sanders supporters who were watching the Sanders deficit shrink. Brakey assesses the sudden shift:

>On election night, shortly after 8:00 PM, the first results were released and they were 99% vote-by-mail ballots. The numbers showed Hillary Clinton with a decisive lead over Bernie Sanders by 25.94% points. Clinton received 62.56% to Sanders 36.63% with 1.52 million vote-by-mail ballots.

>By early the next morning, another 1.94 million ballots were counted. Clinton received 50.73% and Sanders got 48.47%, but those numbers are deceiving. On election day, 718,869 voters were forced to vote a provisional ballot which, in my estimate, are 80% Democratic voters with at least 60% going to Sanders. This would be enough to flip the ‘precinct vote’ to Sanders, who would get 52% over Clinton’s new total of 47%. This spread more accurately reflects the pre-election polling numbers.

July 10, 2016 - 15:35

Carter Allen

Covert Shredding of Provisional Ballots

>In addition, embols.com/2016/07/06/ballots-with-sanders-votes-covered-with-white-out-filmed-by-election-monitors-in-san-diego/ “Citizen election monitors in San Diego have captured film of ballots which have been tampered with, with white-out erasing only Sanders votes, sometimes with part of Bernie Sanders’ first name obscured as well. In the film, a monitor reports that almost half the ballots in the box of ballots she witnessed had been so altered, always against Sanders.

>After the Illinois Democratic primary in March, a citizens’ watchdog group monitoring an audit of the votes says they witnessed vote totals being tampered with to benefit Hillary Clinton.

>In other video captured by citizen reporters and election monitors in San Diego, an election official attempts to keep monitors away from the windows of a room where “provisional” ballots are being counted by officials, which are ballots which were cast mostly by independent voters in the primary. At one point an election monitor, a woman, is told by an official who identifies herself as “Karen Mayer,” to keep her voice down, as she questions what officials through the glass in an off-limits room are doing in the back. The woman tells the official that “you guys are violating the election code, and I’m not going to shut up about it.”

>In a follow up interview of another official, “Charlie Loomis,” the IT manager, the manager confirms that it is indeed white-out that can be seen on the ballots, and that the ballots are being “manipulated.” The IT manager goes on to say that, as a San Diego official, he has no control over this, as the white-outs are a result of Democratic party rules on how the ballots, which are provisional ballots, must be processed. Mr. Loomis say he has “nothing to do with” those rules. Mr. Loomis did indicate, however, that after the white-out process, the ballots are “run through the scanner again.”

View the numbers: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sGxtIofohrj3POpwq-85Id2_fYKgvgoWbPZacZw0XlY/edit#gid=71934428

July 10, 2016 - 15:36

Tyler Hill

When's Bernie Sanders gonna come out and say: "remember that political revolution I was talking about?"

July 10, 2016 - 15:46

Wyatt Smith

RZA & Ghostface Killah from what it says, but two main group members. I expected more from them. I guess they respect her hustle.. Regardless of how evil it is.

Such disappoint. I even posted one of their videos in this thread like a week ago. This isn't too surprising though, since most of them are Hollywood fucks nowadays. ODB would've kept it real, I bet, lmao.

July 10, 2016 - 15:51

Charles Price

And what about that cringey title?

July 10, 2016 - 15:54

Easton Brown

We all knew Hillary winning by that large a margin in Cali was bullshit. I knew there was no way she could've won by that much; it just didn't make any sense whatsoever. This needs more coverage.

Also, that WaPo writer should be burned. These writers are so desperate.

July 10, 2016 - 16:03

Brayden Murphy

Strategic voting is a reality whether you like it or not, user. If you're OK with the Republicans controlling all three levels again that's OK with me.

July 10, 2016 - 16:05

Chase Hill

Which is why I said this

Because of uninformed voters & young ones who don't understand the huge flaw in voting that way. Voting for "the winner" is retarded. Just as voting for or against a candidate because of political correctness is.

Also, scare-tactics are a reason for this type of voting.

This is why things never change. We need to stress voting in the first place, at all, before voting for a lesser evil. If more people voted period, we'd have much better outcomes. That is why the republicans/tea partiers took over Congress.

July 10, 2016 - 16:10

Hudson Hill

oh no, one of the two bourgeois parties might win their rigged scam of a system

oh no what will we do

July 10, 2016 - 16:12

Jonathan Green

While I agree, this kind of logic is untenable when parties transparently rig the outcome of their elections. See

July 10, 2016 - 16:18

Wyatt Hill

Then it would make even greater sense to vote for principle, if your vote doesn't matter. At least then you voted for principle/the best candidate, whether or not they win.

July 10, 2016 - 16:39

Cooper Morris

So does Sanders get more superdelegates?

July 10, 2016 - 16:43

Alexander Miller

>>779150

July 10, 2016 - 16:59

Jason Rivera

all right, so there's an almost 0% chance this will get coverage in the msm, so what happens now?

July 10, 2016 - 17:02

Kevin Brown

maybe RT or The Young Turks will mention it.
POSSIBLY Democracy Now!

July 10, 2016 - 17:03

Tyler Butler

lol

fair.org/home/national-plutocrat-radio/

July 10, 2016 - 17:12

Easton Wright

i don't see democracy now there

July 10, 2016 - 17:23

Juan Baker

wow dude hey man wow i just really wanted to say that i really just love your aloof and above it all style like man i wish i was as cool as you are like wow that was pretty smooth oh wow uhhh mmm wow oh mann s-smooth ngguh

July 10, 2016 - 18:06

Charles Morgan

This one is a very confusing post. Is he speculating that Sanders won California but was cheated out of it or is he confirming that he has now outright won it?

July 10, 2016 - 20:04

Ayden Wright

I'll tell you what I'm not okay with: fucking cheaters occupying the White House after subverting the democratic process.

July 10, 2016 - 20:10

Juan Nelson

He's speculating that, based on polling among NPP and absentee voters, these voters favored Sanders strongly enough to give him the win. Further, he's stating that these two types of votes were not covered by any auditing process (in spite of the legal requirement that they must be), leading to the strong conclusion that cheating has occurred.

On this basis, legal proceedings are underway to block the certification of the California vote, seize shredded materials to determine their nature, and extend the audit to cover all ballots:
kusi.com/story/32398709/san-diego-registrar-lawsuit

July 10, 2016 - 23:55

Logan Garcia

...

July 11, 2016 - 01:21

Eli Bennett

DON'T DO IT BERNIE
nbcnews.com/card/its-official-sanders-join-clinton-campaign-trail-n606991

July 11, 2016 - 06:55

Carter Green

He knows what he's doing, he'll withhold his actual endorsement until the convention and it won't be the worst thing since gruel.

July 11, 2016 - 07:05

Jaxson Butler

youtu.be/GsYOfAZZq_s
Highlights: James Comet Testifies in Clinton Email Hearing

Parts 2 & 3 in the description.

I was too emotional when the FBI/Comey's statement came out with no indictment recommendation. Now that I've had time to let what he said in his address, I see just how scathing it was. This hearing really highlights the absurdity even more-so, of Clinton's actions & no indictment recommendation. I knew it was a miscarriage of justice(which is all too common), but he really destroyed her at least, in his public statement regarding the investigation. She broke the law many times over, she lied chronically. This isn't going away anytime soon. I'm glad this all came out before the convention.

Btw - whoever made that Hillary & Bill leftypol banner, that's fantastic. Fucking gold.

July 11, 2016 - 07:13

Mason Campbell

I read he's appearing at an event with her, but jumping to the endorsement assumption is retarded. He's already said it will be a contested convention.

If he endorses her, it will completely undermine his cause. Even if he does eventually, it won't matter to me or millions of others. I'll never vote for that cunt. We don't blindly follow him.

July 11, 2016 - 07:20

Hudson Parker

Exactly. That's the great thing about the Sanders campaign. Even if he were to lead us off a cliff, none of us would follow. I personally could never justify a vote for Hillary for personal reasons (PROMESA) so I will be voting for Jill unless shit goes down in the next week.

July 11, 2016 - 09:18

Brandon Clark

progressivearmy.com/2016/07/10/hillary-clintons-covert-campaign-tpp/

July 11, 2016 - 10:03

Hunter Morris

the future is going to be terrible lads, i can feel it

July 11, 2016 - 10:08

Grayson Cox

If by "come out against it" you mean she "expressed reservations" and did jack shit about them just like with PROMESA then I guess so.

July 11, 2016 - 10:09

Cooper Adams

Again, he has a fucking rally scheduled for the eve of the convention. He isn't endorsing shit.

Of course they're jumping the gun. They're desperate for Sanders to get out of the race. They're still in denial he's going to Philly.

July 11, 2016 - 11:15

Austin Brooks

telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/06/chelsea-manning-reportedly-hospitalised-after-attempting-suicide/

July 11, 2016 - 15:26

Ryan Wilson

fivethirtyeight.com/features/whos-the-best-pick-among-trumps-b-list-vp-choices/
archive.is/qjjWe
Nate Silver and co on the different candidates for the apprentice this year

July 11, 2016 - 16:35

Dominic Martin

The FBI came out with a report in 2006 warning of large numbers of white supremacist groups infiltrated the police departments thegrio.com/2015/05/12/fbi-white-supremacists-law-enforcement/ explains why unarmed black people keep getting shot.

July 11, 2016 - 19:28

Oliver Myers

theintercept.com/2016/07/10/hey-donald-trump-heres-newt-gingrich-palling-around-terrorists-saddam-armed/
In light of the fact that Newt Gingrich might be Trump's VP, here's proof that he associates himself with the Islamic Socialist Iranian terrorist group MEK.
does this prove Trump is an accelarationist?

July 11, 2016 - 19:33

Nathaniel Bennett

Yeah, it's gonna be either Sessions or Gingrich. Christie is interesting but he doesn't even put his home state on the table, his approval ratings are abysmal, it'd be anuddah Palin.

It's not that simple. Most people who hate those goddamn niggers have nothing to do with organizations and I'd wager most of the people shooting unarmed civilians are a step under genocidists- just prejudiced, scared, and trigger-happy, with a dash of fascism. You can't forget this doesn't just happen to Blacks, it's just disproportionate with them. Natives in particular go through the same thing.

July 11, 2016 - 20:36

Ethan Jones

...

July 11, 2016 - 22:05

Jonathan Williams

Hmmmmmm

archive.is/ugbL5

July 11, 2016 - 22:41

Lincoln Bennett

The Revolution is coming.

July 11, 2016 - 22:48

Nicholas Brooks

Bernie using those KGB connections well

July 11, 2016 - 22:50

Adrian Foster

DWS should watch over her tea..

July 11, 2016 - 23:04

Aaron Morris

Somewhere around a thousand Bernie or Busters just had a big conference call Tuesday evening and a guy close to Bernie said there's no way he's going to endorse Clinton before the convention. Stop falling for literal propaganda.

July 12, 2016 - 00:09

Kayden Robinson

I'm frankly kind of shocked that slimy weasel Gingrich is still trying to get power.

July 12, 2016 - 00:10

Josiah Ramirez

A dangerous turn to economic nationalism
wsws.org/en/articles/2016/07/12/pers-j12.html

12 July 2016

July 12, 2016 - 02:17

Carter Cox

Nick Beams

July 12, 2016 - 02:17

Gabriel Campbell

...

July 12, 2016 - 05:22

Jacob Walker

I reckon he knew something he wasn't supposed to and was going to leak it.

July 12, 2016 - 05:55

Noah Morris

Wow, yeah, look at all that free trade and immigration that just exploded in the '40s.

I can't believe neolibs think they can just lie about history this blatantly and be taken seriously.

July 12, 2016 - 07:47

Parker Cruz

archive.is/pEO6i

archive.is/L7n6J

The chickens are coming home to roost.

July 12, 2016 - 08:28

Justin Sanchez

wew fast wew furious

July 12, 2016 - 08:30

Ryan Sullivan

Bernie Sanders endorses Hillary Clinton

rt.com/usa/350806-sanders-supports-clinton-convention/

Live feed:
youtube.com/watch?v=FEgbgqwPPRk

July 12, 2016 - 08:35

Oliver Williams

then why are you supporting hillary bernie

July 12, 2016 - 08:42

Aaron Wright

WSWS was right again

July 12, 2016 - 08:46

Joseph Watson

YOU CAN SEE IT IN HIS EYES. YOU KNOW HE HATES THIS

July 12, 2016 - 08:55

Jose Adams

That's nice Bernie, but I'm still not voting for her.

July 12, 2016 - 09:03

Anthony Rogers

Where do I vent my uncontrollable rage?

July 12, 2016 - 09:08

Christopher Cooper

Come on, goys, Bernie endorsed her! Now you have to vote for Hillary! You don't want that dirty racist Drumpf to win, right?

July 12, 2016 - 09:09

Michael Torres

At Philadelphia.

For sake of this country, I hope that the protest is still going to happen. Nobody should take this lying down.

July 12, 2016 - 09:13

Sebastian Rivera

ARE YOU HAPPY NOW, CTR?

July 12, 2016 - 09:14

Joseph Baker

...

July 12, 2016 - 09:22

Robert Ramirez

can someone give me a tl;dw? I don't have the time or tolerance to watch a speech like this if it has no redeeming value

July 12, 2016 - 09:28

Colton Gomez

hillary looks smug while bernie contemplates suicide

July 12, 2016 - 09:30

Aiden Lee

...

July 12, 2016 - 09:32

Jaxson Bell

...

July 12, 2016 - 09:33

Jaxson Cruz

If he hates this, Hillary must be feeling worse(if reptiles are capable of human emotion). She and Sanders are going to be conjoined at the hip from now on. She'll never really unite the party and motivate the voters. No one will donate small sums to her. No young voices will cheer her name at rallies. Half of the votes she gets will really be votes for Bernie. She'll guaranteed to have a broken party and an incredibly low approval rating waiting for her when she gets into office.

Look at the pain on these faces. This is not over.

July 12, 2016 - 09:36

Caleb Wilson

GO AHEAD AND DROP THISE EMAILS ANY TIME NOW WIKILEAKS

July 12, 2016 - 09:47

Jack King

...

July 12, 2016 - 09:51

Evan Parker

All I want in life's a little bit of love to take the pain away.

July 12, 2016 - 09:56

Nathan Scott

Wanna hug?

July 12, 2016 - 09:58

Landon Powell

Well Holla Forums, make your choice
strawpoll.me/10729891

July 12, 2016 - 10:02

Colton Brooks

...

July 12, 2016 - 10:03

Jordan Hughes

...

July 12, 2016 - 10:07

William Nguyen

This.

July 12, 2016 - 10:08

Luis Wright

This is how the "left" in America spirals deeper into idpol bullshit.

It was a fun ride but I might as well go full accelerationism and vote Trump. I know after 4 years of such a terrible presidency the real left groups will get inspired to make real change and purge the idpol shitters from the ranks.

July 12, 2016 - 10:14

Wyatt Adams

I don't know if I can take this anymore, comrades. I'm so tired of constant disappointment. It's just part of being a leftist, I guess.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=mCEfqj9pDAI

July 12, 2016 - 10:20

Hudson Morris

They have to, honestly. If Shillery wins, the next republican will be much worse.

July 12, 2016 - 10:22

Evan Butler

As a Spaniard I know that feel too well.

July 12, 2016 - 10:22

Justin Torres

He's right, you know.

July 12, 2016 - 10:24

Kayden Brooks

no, they were not right, and for sure not right again. faggots like chomsky and anarkiddies in general being wrong doesn't make you a genius for not being as fucking retarded.
that's really no big accomplishment.
i said it from the beginning, yet you don't see me jacking off over this blatantly obvious move of him.

oh, and i got "news" for you, let me be a prophet "again":
corbyn is just as much of a spineless socdem faggot
but please, go on and tell me how i'm a sectarian ML tankie etc., you dumb fucking bitches

July 12, 2016 - 10:32

Camden Harris

epic memes xD

July 12, 2016 - 10:32

Aiden King

Well shit…

A Trump tweet I agree with.

What has the world come to?

July 12, 2016 - 10:33

Mason Myers

A leftist voting for trump is a vote for accelerationism.
The failure of Hillary to beat trump will reveal the failure of third way centrism, globalism, and sjwism.
And when the whole DNC has been burn to the ground you can rebuild.

Or you can stay home and masturbate.

The choice is yours.

July 12, 2016 - 10:33

James Anderson

And he doesn't believe a god damn word he's saying.

July 12, 2016 - 10:33

Connor Johnson

You say "the dnc" like it meant anything to anyone who isn't a liberal like you or your parents.

July 12, 2016 - 10:33

Jaxson Wright

Is this how imageboards will die? by idpol and third-rate politicians?

July 12, 2016 - 10:34

Jack Garcia

Trump will never win tho

July 12, 2016 - 10:35

Landon Cruz

trump winning could possibly completely destroy chan culture

July 12, 2016 - 10:36

Isaac Murphy

he's just pandering

I don't know about that. The more Clinton tries to go to the right the better chances Trump has.

July 12, 2016 - 10:37

Jack Brown

Trump has alienated basically all minorities. He has a fucking

1% approval rating with African Americans

1%.

Latinos aren't much better.

Romney had better numbers going in ffs

July 12, 2016 - 10:38

Kayden Robinson

...

July 12, 2016 - 10:39

Chase Perez

Trump isn't going to fulfill anything he's promised. He's a pathological liar just as much as Hillary is. It's late capitalism, you can't expect change. You expect subversion.

July 12, 2016 - 10:40

Nicholas Cruz

How about no you stealth Holla Forumsluter. When a state enters crisis it doesn't mean the Left automatically wins. It becomes fair game for radicalism of all kinds. This is how Fascism and Nazism came to power.

July 12, 2016 - 10:41

Isaiah Torres

Furthermore, Trump is also doing worse with women than Romney did. Women have a pattern of voting more than men do too, so uh….

This could have changed since the last I heard, but I believe Trump only has like $1M on hand for his campaign and Clinton has $40M. Fucking 40 times the money to spend as he does. And of course, the candidate who spends the most money usually wins.

Dems are also gaining ground in reliably red and pink states like Arizona and Georgia, but holding their ground in blue states, aside from Pennsylvania IIRC. There's no way Hillary won't be the president come January 2017.

July 12, 2016 - 10:42

Jacob Ward

Yeah nobody I know politically active likes Hillary, I refuse to be friends with anyone who doesn't hate her, but they have a fiery disdain for Trump. Because of his taking of populist stances knowing full well he'll back down on them and associating populism with the mindless American right.

July 12, 2016 - 10:46

Daniel Hughes

...

July 12, 2016 - 10:47

Josiah Butler

Fuck off.

July 12, 2016 - 10:49

Cooper Martin

...

July 12, 2016 - 10:49

Elijah Edwards

What fights fascism? A strong and focused left which isn't going to come about under Hillary.

I would vote third party but even if Jill Stein could poll high enough to get on a debate stage with Hillary and Trump she would most likely get killed. Additionally, the Green Party didn't even take the time to get on the ballot in each state.

July 12, 2016 - 10:50

Daniel Russell

Maybe the reason he might smash TPP is he wants to make his own.

July 12, 2016 - 10:50

Daniel Gomez

After 4 years of that fetid cunt destroying everything the right will probably be beyond mad and could conceivably go full-Holla Forums. Trump is a release valve for a side of the country that feels they've been run roughshod over without reprieve by the 'left'. Trump is moderate compared to what things could conceivably be.

July 12, 2016 - 10:50

Gavin Jenkins

hahahahahahahahaha

July 12, 2016 - 10:50

Joshua Cooper

we have moved beyond the realm of parody

July 12, 2016 - 10:51

Xavier Sullivan

Right Trump won't do anything and surely will not be George Bush Jr Jr

July 12, 2016 - 10:51

Benjamin Thomas

The hyperreal

July 12, 2016 - 10:51

Jason Rodriguez

Obama was George Bush Jr Jr. Trump is more like Bush the IV

July 12, 2016 - 10:52

Jack Bennett

Irrelevant, even if Trump did literally nothing differently the right would feel like they'd won a reprieve.

July 12, 2016 - 10:53

Daniel Phillips

The American right doesn't deserve a reprieve it deserves a genocide.

July 12, 2016 - 10:54

Hudson King

Bush kinda continued some stuff from Bill Clinton too tbh. It's all neoliberalism.

This is kinda important I think.

July 12, 2016 - 10:54

Henry Hall

Which makes the down ballot races all the more important. That's where the real fight is going to be this election.

Time to campaign for Tim Canova.

July 12, 2016 - 10:54

Hudson Cox

Do you want 'America in a temporary slump' or do you want 'America goes full Holla Forums'. The latter is seriously possible if the pressure doesn't get diffused soon.

July 12, 2016 - 10:55

Dylan Howard

Fads die fast. The American right is too stupid to plot. It takes orders from pigs with pleasure, and does not operate under its own interests. If the American right is organized it means someone is being manipulated.

You're stupid and a fool.

July 12, 2016 - 10:56

Oliver Johnson

every second you waste on a berniecrat is a second you could be spending building a socialist party

July 12, 2016 - 10:57

Caleb Lewis

So much for "socialism"

July 12, 2016 - 10:59

Ayden Parker

What is the big deal with Hillary? I'm not American but my understanding is that the Democrats incorporated a lot of Bernie's ideas into their platform. What exactly is wrong with him endorsing that platform?

July 12, 2016 - 10:59

Nicholas Moore

Reform democratic socialism isn't the plan for anyone but liberals, and only Holla Forums sees us as such.

July 12, 2016 - 10:59

Adam Miller

Noted.

Do you think porky would be down for manipulating the right to preserve his crony capitalism? Yes or no.

July 12, 2016 - 10:59

Michael Gray

Every single time.

July 12, 2016 - 11:00

Grayson Martinez

Trump has garnered the most votes for the Republican party in a convention race. Besides, Jeb had millions of dollars and that amountes to nothing. Its not over until the last vote is in.

July 12, 2016 - 11:02

Aiden Howard

Remember.

It could've been some hard right idiot like Ted Cruz. If you think Trump is bad then Cruz and people on then a hardcore conservative christian like Cruz horrible.

One good thing that came out of Trump winning the nomination is that at least for now that group has been subdued.

Nope.

July 12, 2016 - 11:02

Alexander Miller

There's more to politics than just voting every four years.

The right exists for the sole purpose of supporting capitalism.

July 12, 2016 - 11:02

Nicholas Diaz

And when your Left isn't strong the former wins. The base needs to be fortified first; class consciousness needs to be elevated.

If you vote it should be for Jill Stein.

July 12, 2016 - 11:03

Leo Lewis

I never suggested otherwise.

Naive. That group is likely now voting for Trump.

July 12, 2016 - 11:03

Brody Gonzalez

How does the left move then? Stop kidding yourself, both sides are just as manipulated and each thinks the other is worse. The only good solution is getting rid of political parties, but that will never happen.

July 12, 2016 - 11:04

Gabriel Hughes

That's what Bernstein said too, but then he shouldn't even be kneeling to Clinton but building his movement and taking more and more local governments. Endorsing Clinton only hurts the credibility of what he's doing, like Warren's endorsement killed her for liberals.

July 12, 2016 - 11:05

Mason Myers

I think your referring to liberals. The class left, which is us, will probably never get mainstream support unless we can subvert idpol, and get viral.

July 12, 2016 - 11:06

Brody Lee

Bottom lel

July 12, 2016 - 11:07

Robert Bailey

The Left, unlike the Right, is still philisophically active. It has theory, it has practice, it has skepticism of authority of not just the state but the market. It can be skeptical of the establishment left, the Bernie Sanders and the Hillary Clinton.

The right, in America, does not have this. It has never had an actual read speaker for itself in a long long time. The day of Evola and European fascistic theory is long dead.

What the right has is Rupert Murdoch, Roger Ailes, it has manipulation by media for the purposes of its own political goals and plans within plans.

I don't disagree.

July 12, 2016 - 11:07

James Thomas

Looking at GG, I'm sure what most of the "alt-right" wants are the cheap thrills and memes that "happenings" bring
Kinda like on 2012, after the TORtanic fiasco, Holla Forums started wishing for a second TORtanic everywhere and thinking every game would end on a catastrophe of gigantic proportions, when GG started to die down, the thrill-seekers started to search something new, and didn't took long to become fully fledged trumblrites between Holla Forums having co-opted the movement already and the guys who slammed GG back then saying shit like "Trump is like GG"

July 12, 2016 - 11:11

Nathan Morales

That is what he's doing. There's lots of "Berniecrats" running for Congress and it's trickling down to the local level.
I'm tired of reading everyone's surprise to this. From the beginning of his campaign he said he'd endorse whoever the would be nominee. He's only keeping his word. It's not revolutionary, despite his rhetoric; he's not Lenin or Castro. He's a reformist social democrat with socialist beliefs such as advocacy for cooperatives.

July 12, 2016 - 11:12

Nathan Moore

and yet

July 12, 2016 - 11:15

Landon Thompson

this. The Bernie hype on Holla Forums was only because he was trying to push the overturn window and make socialism less scary to Americans. Obviously he isn't a revolutionary.

July 12, 2016 - 11:16

Michael Williams

fug. left my flag on.

July 12, 2016 - 11:16

Carson Baker

...

July 12, 2016 - 11:17

Levi Martinez

But now anything associated with Bernie or socialism will be synonymous of selling out to oligarchs once they start booing you.

This isn't so much a surprise for his endorsement but about what he said. "Hillary Clinton understands that the wealth can't always go to the 1%." Yeah sure old man.

July 12, 2016 - 11:19

Aiden Diaz

The days of the American right are dead. Are you in any better state? Is appealing to idiots and being the puppet of Rupert Murdoch?

Quit posting autismal pokemon shit.

July 12, 2016 - 11:20

Cameron Foster

I think it was appropriate tbh. Also, do you think he succeeded? TBH allot of triggered lolberts and cuckservatives are really working on overtime to spread their propaganda. Thanks Kochs!

Guess the education part is where we step in.

July 12, 2016 - 11:20

Bentley Morgan

when you say right what do you mean?
Those william f buckly neocon jew worshipping cucks?

Cause pol will be glad if they are.

July 12, 2016 - 11:22

Jordan Peterson

You. Them. All of the people you probably agree with.

July 12, 2016 - 11:23

Logan Martinez

Pretty much ever capitalists apologist, to leftypol. Can also include stromfuckers.

July 12, 2016 - 11:25

Ayden Young

>"I am however ending my bid for nominee with the Democratic Party."
>"This revolution may be painful. This revolution may lead to some of you not seeing the end of it. But that end goal is worth it all. And the name of the party that will guide this revolution is the Vanguard party

July 12, 2016 - 11:25

Brayden Edwards

If anything the rightwing is more energized than ever and has rebranded itself for the 21'st centruy while you leftist cucks are held down by corporate interests idpol and your own stupidity

July 12, 2016 - 11:26

Logan Turner

You seem to have confused liberals with leftist. Lurk for a bit.

July 12, 2016 - 11:27

Aiden Clark

Actually, now that the Presidential primary is technically over, Bernie can put ALL of his time into fostering Berniecrats.

While he did endorse Hillary, he didn't remove his endorsement of any of the primary challengers he's fostered, which means that he's still not supporting the established Congressional Democrats.

Honestly, I think Bernie's best option now would be to campaign for those challengers. Right now.

July 12, 2016 - 11:29

Nicholas Richardson

it's not a good thing. "Rebrand" is a nice word for new method of manipulation. "Tea Party" and Southern Strategy for the young and uneducated, the GED among them.

Yes everyone in the left is drowned in liberalism as you are.

July 12, 2016 - 11:30

Jacob Lewis

Why yes, Hillary should have never won if your brand was anything you hype it up to be. Instead Bernie is just another pawn who is willingly supporting a corrupt liar and politician. Face it, you are a minority, I don't see any proof that your brand is successful only that the left you hate rules.

July 12, 2016 - 11:36

Carson Rogers

They were completely right and you should learn to deal with it

July 12, 2016 - 12:16

Leo Campbell

What do you think of Hillary's campaign slogan "History made"?

July 12, 2016 - 12:19

Jaxon Rogers

...

July 12, 2016 - 12:20

Brayden Carter

she made something alright

July 12, 2016 - 12:20

Bentley Adams

alternatively

July 12, 2016 - 12:22

Jeremiah Nguyen

...

July 12, 2016 - 12:22

Alexander Butler

I wonder how this "have your cake and eat it too" plan is going to work out for the Democrats. Already I've seen Trump, Stein, and Johnson supporters flood social media, trying to capture the votes of the the angry and lost Berniecrats.

Everything is going as predicted. Now Shillary will have scramble to get those supporters too.

July 12, 2016 - 12:23

Jaxon Perry

Absolute madwoman

July 12, 2016 - 12:23

Carson Gomez

It's cheap and empty, perfect for her supporters

man, as if i needed another reason to hate her

July 12, 2016 - 12:24

Noah Rodriguez

...

July 12, 2016 - 12:24

Carson Brooks

she didn't actually build that, you know…somebody else did.

July 12, 2016 - 12:25

Bentley Howard

What a dumb bitch.

July 12, 2016 - 12:25

Kayden Watson

That's never been more true.

July 12, 2016 - 12:26

Dominic Jones

The platform is a worthless document and hillary is under no obligation to adhere to it.

Unless they were seriously threatening to kill his grandchildren in front of him he just sold the farm for a bunch of magic beans.

July 12, 2016 - 12:26

Sebastian Rivera

Not that I'm agreeing with your memeing of it being all part of the plan, but Bernie – at least – always said change comes from the bottom up.

July 12, 2016 - 12:27

Ryder Jenkins

...

July 12, 2016 - 12:29

Matthew Brown

Nothing has changed from my point of view. Trump, Johnson, and Hillary have nothing to offer to the left, so my only choice is still Jill Stein.

July 12, 2016 - 12:30

Chase Hill

Would Bernie have won if he attacked Hillary like Jill Stein has been doing?

July 12, 2016 - 12:30

Lincoln Foster

there was a lot of things bernie could've done and a lot of things out of his control. this entire election is a mess

July 12, 2016 - 12:32

Grayson Nelson

Looking back, it will probably be the great speculation of the 2016 campaign for the Democratic nomination if had Bernie been more "'aggressive"' could he have won?

Nobody can say. But I will say, because the mainstream media loves mud, they may have at least given him more airtime. They still would likely have framed him in the negative, however.

July 12, 2016 - 12:34

Michael Howard

That's what helped Trump win at least.

July 12, 2016 - 12:35

Jack Price

Do you honestly think they fucking care?

They gave us 8 years of George W. Bush just to punish the Green Party and its supporters. Do you think this time it will be any different?

July 12, 2016 - 12:37

Ayden Gomez

Some punishment. Obama proves that nothing would have been different under Gore or Kerry.

July 12, 2016 - 12:42

Noah Ortiz

10/10

July 12, 2016 - 12:43

Elijah Harris

...

July 12, 2016 - 12:46

Oliver Wilson

Not bad

July 12, 2016 - 12:47

Thomas Stewart

I can't say whether it would have worked what Trump has done on the Democrat side.

I think, more importantly, it was how the primaries operated. Structurally it favored Clinton. By having so many of them closed with no opportunity to change affiliation because the deadlines had passed, they excluded Bernie's largest group of support Independents.

July 12, 2016 - 12:47

Adrian Brooks

i hope to god they at least threatened him with something

RIP entryist memes

best memes of 2016

July 12, 2016 - 12:48

Kayden Rivera

R-remember Iowa guys?

July 12, 2016 - 12:49

Asher Phillips

I don't think he could've won. The game was rigged from the start. The DNC had their nominee and the primary was just a formality. Sanders overwhelming support took them completely off guard.

But that's been the theme of this election. Both parties really entered this race with complete ignorance. That's going to be the real great speculation of the 2016 election. What the hell were they thinking?

Nice.

July 12, 2016 - 12:50

Liam Clark

It was nice of them to piss off millions of independent voters, only to ask them to vote for the bitch that pissed them off.

Well played, Democrats. Well played.

July 12, 2016 - 12:55

Jose Butler

Will these faggots ever actually do something?

July 12, 2016 - 12:56

Zachary Ross

I'm not even American, was not involved in this campaign at all and I'm fucking disgusted. He had disappeared from the media. He didn't need to do this. He could have gracefully bowed out and euphemistically encouraged his supporters in swing states to "vote against Trump". He didn't need to appear on stage with Hillary "We Came, We Saw, He Died" Clinton.

July 12, 2016 - 12:57

James Nguyen

This

Even if all hope really was lost for the presidency what purpose does this serve now? It completely undermines any legitimacy he had. So much for his "political revolution."

July 12, 2016 - 12:59

Oliver Bailey

Welcome to American politics lose all hope ye who enter here naive and idealistic.

July 12, 2016 - 12:59

Josiah Myers

My point is they're going to spend the next months/years hammering away at anyone who dares not vote for Queen Hillary I and god help us if Trump wins they'll spend the next 4 years blaming every single thing that goes wrong on those evil sexist "Bernie Bros"

July 12, 2016 - 13:04

William Williams

good times

July 12, 2016 - 13:04

Jason Flores

I mean, I'm sure the DNC put pressure on him, but it can't have been so strong that it caused him to lose all judgement or forget what he knew about Hillary "I Love Kissinger" Clinton.

Now we face into the most disgusting American election in my lifetime.

I think the only hope for America is if somebody does a Mohamed Bouazizi on Wall Street.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohamed_Bouazizi

July 12, 2016 - 13:06

Jonathan Reed

...

July 12, 2016 - 13:08

Ayden Foster

Why would Bernie have attacked someone he "likes, respects, and admires?"

July 12, 2016 - 13:08

Charles Barnes

FUCKING OHIO MAN WTF

and FUCKING MASSACHUSETTS. Warren…

July 12, 2016 - 13:11

Nolan Clark

...

July 12, 2016 - 13:11

Angel Sanders

The removal of his contributions to the party platform seems like a big enough threat to me. I have a feeling they cranked up the pressure on him to do it now instead of at the convention since the FBI investigation shit all over Hillary despite not indicting. See

There's still the down ticket races to look toward to. You can still have your revenge.

July 12, 2016 - 13:12

Evan Ward

screencap this post

July 12, 2016 - 13:13

Ian Hughes

honestly the best outcome at this point

July 12, 2016 - 13:14

Eli Taylor

Based Stein

July 12, 2016 - 13:16

Oliver Hall

Any outcome that isn't changing the way this works is the worst outcome

July 12, 2016 - 13:17

Christian Perry

I can't vote for Stein because in my state for a third party candidate to be on the ballot they have to have had 90,000 signatures by May

So I'll get to choose between a warm monger, a racist billionaire, and an autistic republican

July 12, 2016 - 13:18

Adam Morris

top kek

July 12, 2016 - 13:19

Christian Miller

...

July 12, 2016 - 13:20

Jack Allen

I stopped watching TYT when they stopped doing election coverage and returned to liberal nonsense, but I'd be interested to see how they respond to this.

July 12, 2016 - 13:24

Jordan Collins

The democrats are petty. They want Sanders to suffer because they had go through such a long primary. This is why Bernie has to go through the public embarrassment and say all of these empty, glowing compliments to Hillary because otherwise they're going to fuck him and his supporters.

Don't believe me, check this out from Politico.

>The visit will be a show of party unity after caucus member Bernie Sanders of Vermont annoyed many Democrats with his drawn-out campaign against Clinton, although Sanders’s endorsement of Clinton on Tuesday may allay some of those concerns.

This is one of the main reasons focusing the down ticket is so fucking important this year. We can remove some of those fuckers. Keep the rage alive.

July 12, 2016 - 13:27

Liam Sanchez

I think I'll put my vote towards getting the Green Party federal funding and access to national debates instead, cocksucker.

Gonna go out to the farmer's market right now and set a quota of 100 signatures for this ballot access petition in fact.

July 12, 2016 - 13:27

David Rivera

Any politician who is annoyed by democracy ought to be shot.

On a related topic

July 12, 2016 - 13:29

Angel Ortiz

"the Green Party" is made up of grassroots organization in each state. In some states they're pretty big, in others they're quite small. In my own state we just recently "reactivated" our small core of maybe five or six people still connected and are quickly recruiting Berned out Sanders supporters. If you wanted the Green Party to get on the ballot in your state you should have gotten involved. In many states it's still not too late.

July 12, 2016 - 13:31

Austin Jenkins

oh boy, so we can vote for more democrats

can't wait

July 12, 2016 - 13:32

Jackson Wood

This.

Congressional elections is where it's at now.

July 12, 2016 - 13:32

Parker King

...

July 12, 2016 - 13:34

Noah Miller

Every second you spend convincing a Berniecrat to help you build a socialist party is a second well spent.

July 12, 2016 - 13:36

Dylan Gray

We can also vote out the incumbents with Berniecrats, or are you not aware of Congressional Primaries?

That's okay. With everybody obsessed with the election, nobody seems to realize it's Congress that makes the laws, save maybe the Republicans.

July 12, 2016 - 13:38

Luke Ortiz

This is the only sensible course of action.

July 12, 2016 - 13:41

Dylan Johnson

WTF

Holy shit, It's amazing that Fox News hasn't exploded about that.

Almost like they only care about phoney scandals.

July 12, 2016 - 13:42

Brandon Cruz

You should check and make sure the deadline for getting on the ballot listed as an independent hasn't passed. That's the Plan B we're going with in my state and we still have until the end of August to get it done.

July 12, 2016 - 13:45

Kayden Long

Yeah, like I said

July 12, 2016 - 13:48

Oliver Allen

implying jill stein isnt just the lefts ron paul

July 12, 2016 - 13:52

Ryder Adams

thebernreport.com/bernie-sanders-explains-why-he-endorsed-hillary-clinton/

>In the coming weeks, I will be announcing the creation of successor organizations to carry on the struggle that we have been a part of these past 15 months. I hope you will continue to be involved in fighting to transform America. Our goal will be to advance the progressive agenda that we believe in and to elect like-minded candidates at the federal, state and local levels who are committed to accomplishing our goals.

July 12, 2016 - 14:15

Elijah Garcia

>You should know that I intend to be actively campaigning throughout this election season to elect candidates who will stand by our agenda. I hope to see many of you at events from coast to coast.

July 12, 2016 - 14:18

Camden Cruz

HAPPENINGU TIME

July 12, 2016 - 14:19

Landon Wilson

Yeah, we keep forgetting about those more local elections don't we?

July 12, 2016 - 14:20

Connor Walker

From the sound of it, he's going to be taking on the DNC.

But fuck, he shouldn't have posted this on a small news site. This needed to be his speech TODAY.

July 12, 2016 - 14:24

Ethan Sullivan

What a load of shit. Actions speak loader than words, just because Hillary is a better liar than Trump doesn't mean she is less dangerous. He should have just ran third party to save us from both of them.

July 12, 2016 - 14:26

Juan Williams

I guess it's because he doesn't have much experience with media?

July 12, 2016 - 14:27

Gabriel Thomas

Nice try, Bernie. Sad to see the political machine has chewed you up and shat you out. Your revolution is a farce.

July 12, 2016 - 14:30

Michael Lewis

A non-binding document Hillary is sure to ignore

We did it, guys!

July 12, 2016 - 14:30

Dylan Wright

IT'S ONLY JUST BEGINNING

July 12, 2016 - 14:32

Christian Hughes

Woah, ugh, hey guys, I just woke up from an eight year nap. So things must be pretty great after Obama closed Guantanamo Bay, ended the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and fixed the economy, right? Can I get an update?

July 12, 2016 - 14:35

Jonathan Clark

I don't think the Congressional Democrats have that luxury.

July 12, 2016 - 14:35

Carson Reyes

u best have something in store for the convention

July 12, 2016 - 14:36

Mason Gray

Unless he just endorsed her so he can sneak in the convention with grenades and a sniper rifle, he's dead to me.

July 12, 2016 - 14:40

Logan Hill

Obama couldn't close Guantanamo Bay because no state in the union wants to keep terrorist prisoners, Iraq and Afghanistan are still shit holes, and the Republicans took Congress. Their party platform was "STOP OBAMA", which blocked any attempts to fix the economy.

July 12, 2016 - 14:41

Hunter Walker

haha lol

July 12, 2016 - 14:42

Christopher Thomas

What? You mean he didn't do ANY of it? But he promised!

July 12, 2016 - 14:43

Joshua Davis

I know you're trying to make a point how party platforms are meaningless to Presidential campaigns, but the fact that Congress couldn't keep up their end lead to them getting the boot against the far more motivated Republicans.

July 12, 2016 - 14:47

Charles Ramirez

Obama was a neoliberal stooge, a Rockefeller Republican in blackface. Don't make excuses for him.

July 12, 2016 - 14:49

Joseph Allen

Reminder that the 112-114 (present) Congress were indeed >do nothing, stop Obama.

House Republicans literary shiting up the congressional floor with the new Tea Party. Senate Democrats being bitches. And then eventually losing the Senate.

July 12, 2016 - 14:50

Angel Murphy

I was born and raised in Burlington, VT. My Grandma and mom both voted for Bernie when he ran for mayor and the house. I donated and volunteered for Bernie during his '06 and '12 senate campaigns. I was waiting for this campaign for a decade and I would be lying if I said this announcement doesn't really hurt me. Mainly because I've actually spent a lot of time with him and was confident he would never do anything like this.

July 12, 2016 - 14:53

Angel Sanders

Keep fighting user. It's what the old Bernie would have wanted you to do

July 12, 2016 - 14:55

Josiah Morales

If he was just going to make new "successor organizations" (not a new party I guess) then why did he sell out to get a bunch of nothing from the democrats that did nothing but shit down his throat this whole primary

July 12, 2016 - 14:55

Parker Cruz

What would he say?

July 12, 2016 - 14:56

Josiah Nguyen

nothing because he is a skleleton now

July 12, 2016 - 14:57

Carson Gonzalez

The struggle continues.

July 12, 2016 - 14:58

Jordan Gomez

let all your heroes die so that you may become your own hero

July 12, 2016 - 15:01

Isaac White

Not making excuses. That's mostly what happened. There was a brief window where he could've gotten something done, but he had to stop and try to work with the bitter Republicans.

The leading theory says that he wouldn't have been allowed into the convention if he didn't endorse her.

July 12, 2016 - 15:02

William Green

god bless muriga, truly a free and democratic nation

July 12, 2016 - 15:03

Ayden Morales

I'd rather he be left outside with the rest of the real patriots, chanting in solidarity.
That way it will be easy to drop a bomb on the whole building and save the country.

July 12, 2016 - 15:09

Austin Ortiz

I mean, barring something extreme happening, I expected it to happen eventually. I just wish he would have waited until after the convention. What's the point in even going now?

July 12, 2016 - 15:32

Zachary Nelson

This.

I guess he can just hope Hillary drops dead or something now.

July 12, 2016 - 15:40

Bentley Jackson

youtube.com/watch?v=w82pFvUq3o8
what happened bernie

July 12, 2016 - 15:45

Logan Miller

This is the worst possible universe

July 12, 2016 - 15:54

Josiah Davis

...

July 12, 2016 - 16:01

Daniel Cook

I hate Donald but fuck, that's pretty decent.

July 12, 2016 - 16:12

Ian Brooks

Well… Do they still believe and promote capitalism? I guess it does then!

July 12, 2016 - 16:14

Charles Flores

To leverage his weight. The Democrats still need him to unite the party. If you're a regular supporter, I hope the protest still happens. Bernie endorsing Hillary shouldn't change your desire for justice.

Meanwhile, Sanders is going to start getting his revenge early. Even though I'm sure his endorsement came because of the FBI investigation, this is actually a good time for him to step off the Presidential platform and step on down ticket primary races. From his statements, he's actually going campaign for those he endorsed, which is very exciting to me. He fully intends to keep going and take over the Democratic party.

July 12, 2016 - 16:27

Anthony Gray

>absolutely nothing to gain from an early endorsement except "muh roll of toilet paperplatform"
I am… Really, really angry and disappointed. Even Nader didn't go down like such a little bitch.

Even if you can't believe in the Bernie that exists, keep believing in the Bernie that was.

July 12, 2016 - 16:28

Easton Lopez

The only thing Sanders could've gotten at this point was a change in the party platform, which he mostly got. They were NEVER going to make him the nominee or remove support for TPP.

July 12, 2016 - 16:32

Grayson Gutierrez

As Obama proved, election-time promises from mainstream Democrats are completely worthless.

What Bernie could've gotten is a boost to his movement's reputation as the incorruptible moral compass of the American left, through leverage by the only thing that would win real concessions from the establishment during any administration: The support of the people.

July 12, 2016 - 16:40

Caleb Campbell

fuck off

revolutionkiddie pls go

It's effectively the same. Trump wants to strike "CEO of America" off his bucket list and he'll let the cuckservatives do as they please.
good argument faggot

Do you really think he doesn't know what he's doing? Of course he does. He'll spend all the way until November on the trail and then take a comfy seat as SenMajLead with Warren as Whip or possibly VP. Your argument is homosexual.

No, you've got it wrong. He's socdem policy and pinko politics.

On paper, the Right is philosophically active. It's just whipping decrepit and debunked ideas until they don't have any juice left over in them, but it does count. Of course, it's because the Left is founded on aspirations and the Right is based on fears.

fuck off

You really think Trump will be better for the left? Talk about a chump.

if you think the common man wants anything to do with the alt-right's bigotry and violence you are sorely, sorely, sorely mistaken.

Do you actually believe any of this or are you pretending to be triple retarded?

fuck off

No, you'd be surprised. Lots of entryists on SandersForPresident.

Exactly. Is your representative a shitty Clintoid (most likely)? Is the Republican stomachable? Go for it.

This is what I've been trying to say.

She kind of is, but she's all we've got, and she's not quite as bad as him.

fuck off

YOU and I can bind her to it.

No, he didn't close it because he didn't care. Puerto Rico's got remote, tiny islands too.

Fuck off

Exactly.

fuck off

Well there you go.

oh my god fuck offfffffffffffffffff

There's not any support for the TPP, there's just no opposition to it. The prevailing theory is that it would piss Obama and the (other) Yellow Dogs off.

Fuck off. Also it's in one week, not two

July 12, 2016 - 16:52

Ryan Gonzalez

His support for her begins and ends with November. He knows we can't afford a Republican president and that's all there is to it. As soon as she's president he will make sure there is still enormous social pressure on her.

people don't like her because she's fake and doesn't support what she's now running as, and also people don't like that she never opposed trade deals or warmongering which were the two main things the primary was really about. There's nothing wrong with him endorsing Hillary, people are just madhurt and considering something that's not personal in personal terms, and also concerned that she can't be held accountable to support the platform, which won't be an issue if people keep an eye on her.

I can. No, he would not. Most of the superdelegates were in the bag for her, and most normies don't understand politics. Especially the ones with the Democratic membership needed to vote in closed primaries. The problem was always that people that would've voted for Bernie in the general or at least supported him didn't vote for him in the primary and there was nothing he could do about that.

This is true. Libertarians used to be able to get normies to assume they were right with a pathos-founded argument, pointing at their old timey white male free market shills with the occasional token like that one guy who says welfare made Blacks lazy. This one Afro-Mexican sperg in my German class who always interrupts the prof has nothing politically to do with regression but still went off about "social programs" once. Now, though, Glolberts are in full damage control mode trying to convince people that anarchocapitalism by any other name is as good as free health care and whatnot.

July 12, 2016 - 16:53

Levi Hall

no u

July 12, 2016 - 16:56

Luke Green

nou
Anyway yeah I'm not even going to bother checking SandersForPresident, I don't need the salt and shortsightedness.

July 12, 2016 - 16:59

Dylan Gomez

ultra turbo deluded

July 12, 2016 - 17:01

Jordan Jenkins

CTR shill pls go

July 12, 2016 - 17:02

Ethan Nelson

Bitch where?

I know you're the same person who always says someone is "CTR" and I know you think it's funny but it's only funny to you, that I can promise you.

July 12, 2016 - 17:03

Noah Ward

No need to get racial. Classcuck works better.

Does the alt right reject them now? I haven't noticed much damage control, but then again, I'm referring to youtube.

July 12, 2016 - 17:05

Levi Torres

Any given part of that massive spergout

July 12, 2016 - 17:08

Jeremiah Miller

Wrong again my friend, I just think you seem like a humongous faggot,

July 12, 2016 - 17:10

Ayden Martinez

25-12=13
1 week=7 days
7·2=14
13≈14

Do you really think that Sanders actually attacking the rampant voter as it occurred, specifically sending out volunteers nationwide to catch manipulation in the act, and sending the flames all the way up to the Shillary campaign via the courts, instead of silently taking his lashes from the cheaters, would've turned out exactly the same?

July 12, 2016 - 17:11

Leo Stewart

Hi white. jk
Idpol may not be the focus, but it's founded on fact. The fact is that regressive economic ideologues were free to preach their breed of economics because they didn't have any experience with what the class system and capitalism actually are, they all had cushy jobs and plenty of money and nothing to worry about.

For some reason I thought it was the 19th.
Yes. It's rigged. Nothing would've put him at 58% of the vote and the superdelegates would vote against him. It was over when Hillary made the Victory Fund.
And I leave you all for now with one final thought- like it or not, your choices really are just Clinton and Trump at this point, and you can only think Trump is better than Clinton if you're insulated from the things he will do. We'll get Clinton in office and then make the most of it. And Bernie may become president yet- if Clinton goes down in flames, and Sanders is her VP or her VP's VP (or even House Speaker), it can happen.

July 12, 2016 - 17:16

Justin Rodriguez

This. Sanders is actually putting in the effort to make sure she sticks to her promises by campaigning for congresspeople. They're going to be a stick to keep her in line.

I know people think being the President makes you all powerful, but that's only if Congress allows you to be. This current Congress should be evidence of that.

It would be even worse. The media would've dismissed it as "old man Sanders throwing a fit he ain't winning". It would damage the image of his movement.

If you want some personal revenge, run for public office. Sanders wants you to.

July 12, 2016 - 17:20

Matthew Phillips

You have autism

July 12, 2016 - 17:32

Liam Stewart

If I support Trump, it's because I realize that while Shillary would be better in the short term (mediocre centrist continuation politics, a few consolatory pæns in the vein of RomneyObamacare), she would be devastatingly worse in the long term (neocon/neolib agenda pumped through like a machine through cooperation between establishment administration and industry, left becoming more worthlessly "progressive" and idpol than ever in total ideological lockdown).

Trump, on the other hand, would constantly be at odds with everyone else in government, and give room for political insurgency to grow as both parties crack apart. Not to mention the (unlikely, but at least somewhat plausible, unlike under Clinton) possibility of neocon (pointless wars)/neolib(offshoring, immigration) policies being shut down for the first time since the 1970s.

How effective would that have been if shills clear from Clinton's campaign, to inside the Democratic Party, to "nonpartisan" government officials, to members of the media themselves, were all facing court summons and criminal indictments about halfway through the primaries onward?

July 12, 2016 - 17:33

Charles Nelson

But why exactly does it matter? What victory is there in him snubbing her? If he genuinely believes Trump is more dangerous (which, on account of the supreme court pick, he absolutely is) then surely it is his duty to do everything he can to keep Trump out?

July 12, 2016 - 17:41

Carter Williams

Honestly, I just hope Trump is actually anti TPP, even if he wants to make his own. I just want more time to shitpost on the internet…

July 12, 2016 - 17:46

Thomas Perez

If he nukes TPP that will at least give people time to regroup before he shoves his own deal through. And since it'll be Trump's deal there will be no shortage of eager protestors.

July 12, 2016 - 18:14

Caleb Garcia

Fuck it, this is what America deserves. Some guy gets shot by the police while doing pretty much everything right, and they still either fucking ignore it or try to excuse it. We're living in the age of the Nietzschean letzte Mensche. Damn near everyone follows the ideal Randian system of thinking: black and white morality, base, short-sighted, egotistical, spooked irrational "self-interest" and they're rude, stupid, lazy, impatient, just terrible.

Just nuke this place and let it be done.

July 12, 2016 - 18:36

Michael Morales

This.
It's not the corrupt evil nature of this modern age that upsets me as much as waiting for a nuke or asteroid to mercifully end it all.

July 12, 2016 - 19:48

Jordan Green

twitter.com/antoniodelotero/status/752921805736648704

July 12, 2016 - 19:50

Tyler Sanders

...

July 12, 2016 - 19:52

Jackson Miller

"If you work hard and never give up, you too can be sabotaged by the DNC and forced to endorse your opponent!"

July 12, 2016 - 19:53

Josiah Young

Here's hoping someone's tossing that around.

July 12, 2016 - 19:54

Austin Sanchez

The only thing it's missing is a shotgun propping it up.

July 12, 2016 - 20:11

Brayden Allen

You know those poster sized autism cards Holla Forums used to do? we should do one of those and send to to b*rnie

July 12, 2016 - 20:14

Kevin Gonzalez

He must feel like a total Idiot.

July 12, 2016 - 20:14

Owen Miller

Do you even know what the DNC is?

July 12, 2016 - 20:20

Matthew Morris

Queen Cersei style, nice

I'm surprised no one's targeted Wall Street in this manner. Would get media attention & make less capitalists, all in one fell swoop.

July 12, 2016 - 20:30

Ethan Brooks

I mean, besides Al Qaeda, of course, lmao

July 12, 2016 - 20:31

Cameron Price

Time to go full Posadist.

July 12, 2016 - 20:39

Brandon Campbell

youtube.com/watch?v=czYZs91JzmY
Reminder to all sanderistas that this is what woman you're being pressured into supporting thinks of workers in America

July 12, 2016 - 20:42

Liam Sullivan

youtube.com/watch?v=lNibeibgSsM
theres only one way you can salvage this B████

July 12, 2016 - 20:45

Asher Rivera

Posting the full because it's satisfying. I thought it was retarded at first, but it grew on me.

July 12, 2016 - 20:49

Noah Campbell

Already been tried

July 12, 2016 - 20:49

Kayden Morris

Why the fuck didn't B████ endorse Jill Stein?

Clinton is further from him than Trump ffs.

July 12, 2016 - 20:52

Dominic Lewis

youtube.com/watch?v=4KopNWohK_M

Just looked it up; I didn't know about this. I think we're much overdue.

July 12, 2016 - 20:57

Hudson Kelly

No one's being pressured. I'll never vote for that cunt, and millions of others won't either. We all know what she thinks of working people, especially of working people in Haiti as well.

July 12, 2016 - 21:07

Nolan Jackson

Why narrator speak like he autistic caveman?

July 12, 2016 - 21:28

Liam Allen

Ruh roh.

July 12, 2016 - 21:29

Asher Edwards

He just caveman, leave him lone.

July 12, 2016 - 21:37

Mason Rivera

Well…shit.

July 12, 2016 - 21:38

Austin Moore

washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/07/12/obamas-trade-agenda-losing-critical-support-as-mcconnell-calls-tpp-passage-unlikely/

Is this hope?

July 12, 2016 - 22:14

William Cruz

So I'm reading reasons why B████ endorsed Hillary are:

1. He wouldn't have been allowed into the convention & the platform would have suffered greatly afterwards.
2. Some DNC rules say they have to endorse or "publicly fight" for the presumptive nominee or risk losing their superdelegates.

Anyone know anything about this? Any links to share explaining why he had to do this? I've also read he hasn't conceded, just endorsing because he had to, but is technically still in the race.

July 12, 2016 - 23:44

Wyatt Gray

Why the word filter on B████..? B e r n i e?

July 12, 2016 - 23:45

Owen Collins

...

July 12, 2016 - 23:57

Michael Nguyen

https:[email protected]/* */[email protected]/* */he-presidency-e4ed85dffdf1#.egz91i3ae
Was it all a ruse?

July 13, 2016 - 00:01

Oliver Wood

youtube.com/watch?v=I0tE6T-ecmg

WINTER IS TRUMPING

July 13, 2016 - 00:02

David Ross

wishful thinking

July 13, 2016 - 00:02

Benjamin Sanders

I dont get how that would work

July 13, 2016 - 04:45

David Perry

Here's my thoughts.
>Comey didn't recommend indictment, but he proved that Hillary committed perjury during the Benghazi hearings.
If Hillary goes down (which has seemed plausible for a while), who will the Dems pick to replace her? If B████ had endorsed Jill Stein or made an independent bid, it would make no sense to anyone for the Dems to pick him. BUT because he's playing nice with the establishment right now, he would be the logical choice to replace her if you don't understand what the Democratic party is actually about. The Democrats will never pick S█████. They'd rather have Trump. If/when Hillary goes down, the Democrats will pick Biden or someone, and the remaining S█████ supporters (millions of people remember) who are watching the Democratic party will be disillusioned when their party passes up B████. By that point, B████ will be the only person with the numbers to beat Trump. Picking anyone else to replace Hillary would be giving Trump the election, and those of his supporters who remain idealistic will see that. Whether it's his intent or not, the effect this choice will have is going to be destroying whatever hope the people have left in the system. This is what you have to do for a revolution to happen.

TL;DR
Bernie is doing what he needs in order to get people disillusioned with the system before having a real revolution.

July 13, 2016 - 05:55

Isaiah Lopez

test
B████ ██████

July 13, 2016 - 06:04

James Long

Though you wouldn't know it with HOW FUCKING LONG THEY'RE TAKING JESUS CHRIST

July 13, 2016 - 06:08

Jaxon Thomas

If you take a look at /r/sandersforpresident it's just overflowing with S█████ apologetics about how he sacrificed himself for the "revolution"

It's sickening

July 13, 2016 - 06:09

Josiah Nelson

The predictable and pathetic end of S█████’ “political revolution”
wsws.org/en/articles/2016/07/13/pers-j13.html

13 July 2016

July 13, 2016 - 06:15

Aaron Brown

Patrick Martin

July 13, 2016 - 06:15

Andrew White

Somebody else posted this and I think they're right.

Assange is waiting until like the day before the convention so the media can't shift the narrative before the DNC picks the candidate. He wants to put them into panic mode and embarrass them, either because they'll endorse Hillary despite evidence of war crimes or whatever OR because their replacement pick will be hasty and look retarded. He's got a nuke, but it's just one nuke. He's going to use it to maximum effect. Holy shit imagine if the protestors and audience in Philly find out what she's up to during the convention. Imagine that mob of people, already upset about S█████' sabotage, suddenly find out just how horrible Hillary is.

July 13, 2016 - 06:16

Landon Sullivan

He didn't though. He explicitly stated his campaign is still going. Good job wooswoos.

July 13, 2016 - 06:17

Isaac Cruz

...

July 13, 2016 - 06:42

Julian Thompson

what can u expect from a trot?
orthodox marxist-lenininist CPUSA endorsed Clinton long ago.

July 13, 2016 - 06:43

Mason King

Jill Stein offered to stand aside for B████ to run as the green party candidate but he instead chose to support everything he stood against.

July 13, 2016 - 06:47

Dylan Jenkins

...

July 13, 2016 - 06:50

Colton Perez

That sounds reasonable and I'd like to believe it but I've had my heart broken so many times already

July 13, 2016 - 06:53

Robert Morris

...

July 13, 2016 - 06:56

Ayden Powell

what are the chances of the queen shill getting indicted?

July 13, 2016 - 06:59

Asher Ortiz

I'd say about 10%.

July 13, 2016 - 07:00

Charles King

Hey at least we got some pretty great memes out of the bargain

July 13, 2016 - 07:03

Brandon Smith

when pigs fly

July 13, 2016 - 07:04

Dominic Foster

sounds like a plan

July 13, 2016 - 07:13

Ethan Jenkins

nypost.com/2016/07/12/new-black-panther-party-will-be-armed-during-rnc-protests/
New Black Panthers are going to the RNC, and they're packing heat too

July 13, 2016 - 07:35

Ryan Myers

...

July 13, 2016 - 07:37

Lincoln Flores

Because all traitors to the working class will have their names stricken from history I presume.

July 13, 2016 - 08:04

Josiah Hernandez

In this farewell
There’s no blood
There’s no alibi
‘Cause I’ve drawn regret
From the truth
Of a thousand lies

So let mercy come
And wash away
What I’ve done

I'll face myself
To cross out what I’ve become
Erase myself
And let go of what I’ve done

July 13, 2016 - 08:33

Kayden Reed

>"We expect too much of the police and too little of everyone else."
It's "Home buyers should have known they were getting it over their heads," all over again.

July 13, 2016 - 10:07

Angel Morales

Don't forget antibiotic-resistant bacteria that will kill you dead from a paper cut.

July 13, 2016 - 10:09

Connor Phillips

soundcloud.com/lena_the_dj/bernie-7-12-16-delegate-conf-call-after-hrc-endorsement
This is a leaked conference call that B████ made to his delegates after the endorsement.

TLDR:

17:30 - Will there be a roll call vote? "Absolutely".

20:00 - Need to break the Democratic party's dependency on big money interests

20:43 - Get rid of superdelegates

21:17 - Fight the issue of closed democratic primaries

25:00 - I have, we have, very serious differences with Hillary Clinton

29:00 - Our delegates should be at the convention and vote for "B████ ██████".

31:00 - We need to work hard on defeating the TPP

31:49 - I will absolutely continue to work as a leader/activist for the progressive movement

32:20 - We have got to end fracking yesterday.

33:40 - No he won't take a role in the Clinton administration

35:57 - "We are still officially a candidate. We haven't suspended our campaign, I'm not going to suspend our campaign. We're going to Philadelphia. We've got 1,900 delegates, she has more."

36:40 - We need to build on the success that we have achieved…. to take back, fight on every level of the government.

Other points of interest include creating organizations that will help continue the political revolution within the coming weeks and mentioning Europe's many parties.

July 13, 2016 - 11:52

Ayden Thompson

I know we're all hurting, but come the fuck on.

July 13, 2016 - 12:05

Christian Perry

not much of a secret plan.

July 13, 2016 - 12:10

Jacob Turner

I haven't listened to it yet, but if it's S█████ & he's saying those things, it is of course note worthy.

You never know what's going to happen in politics. Anything can happen & this is relevant information, if it's true.

July 13, 2016 - 12:17

Jaxon Williams

FPTP makes this non viable.

July 13, 2016 - 12:23

Luis Nelson

GMiL btfo's B████ once again

July 13, 2016 - 12:38

Evan Reed

I might try to fight those in a lab. Seems a lot easier than trying to argue with neolibruls without getting an aneurysm.

July 13, 2016 - 12:49

Xavier Moore

By the way she made a ton of people in the Green Party really made when she did that.

July 13, 2016 - 13:40

Henry Cruz

mad

July 13, 2016 - 13:42

Matthew Watson

How delusional does one have to be to think that A he would do it and B the green party matters?

July 13, 2016 - 13:52

Cooper Taylor

Ralph Nader on S█████' endorsement of Clinton:

youtube.com/watch?v=ppGRUsYkKZw

July 13, 2016 - 14:46

Joshua Carter

Nader's analysis makes sense, especially since Birdie is going to keep doing his rallies. With that continuous pressure, she'll have to keep her promises or she'll get fucked. Either way, Birdie wins.

July 13, 2016 - 15:42

Thomas Hernandez

KSHAMA SAWANT: B████ ██████ ABANDONS THE POLITICAL REVOLUTION
socialistalternative.org/2016/07/13/bernie-abandons-revolution-time-jill-stein/

July 13, 2016 - 19:23

Kevin Hughes

For fucks sake, WHAT DID PEOPLE EXPECT WOULD HAPPEN? In all seriousness, what? We're two days into a fucking tantrum about something we've all seen coming.

Bernie was never going to go third party. It would've been a futile and petty gesture. The longer he stays with the Democrats, the more power his movement gains. Right now, he's in a perfect position since they can't get rid of him. They need him. Scratch that, they need US. Go look at Hillary's poll numbers. They're abysmal. The Democrats need us to vote for them, which makes them our bitch. It's not the other way around.

Remember, S█████ supporters are fucking 40% of the Democratic electorate and they're the entire youth vote. Fucking us guarantees a Trump presidency.

July 13, 2016 - 19:42

Nicholas Ortiz

It's really less people on Holla Forums caring and more Holla Forums coming over to shill

July 13, 2016 - 20:08

Michael Taylor

It's not him endorsing Shillary, it's him endorsing Shillary BEFORE THE CONVENTION. This move made no sense, he lost a tremendous amount of credibility and momentum, while gaining absolutely nothing.

July 13, 2016 - 21:15

Lincoln Morgan

Yeah and they already did that. 9 months of lies, slander, misinformation, cheating, and lawbreaking.

July 13, 2016 - 21:27

Camden Hughes

...

July 13, 2016 - 23:57

Kevin Powell

I really wonder why he did it. He's not stupid. What does he know that we don't?

July 14, 2016 - 00:01

Jonathan Brooks

Some people are saying it's so he can speak at the convention.
I have no idea if that's true or not.

July 14, 2016 - 00:05

Jace Cook

...

July 14, 2016 - 00:14

Carter Perry

...

July 14, 2016 - 00:20

Jason Collins

...

July 14, 2016 - 00:22

Kayden Williams

...

July 14, 2016 - 00:23

Josiah King

If anything comes of the new controversies around Clinton, it will put him closer to the DNC which will make them look even worse when they don't replace her with him and pick somebody else. If Wikileaks is gonna drop those emails they better do it before the convention. B████ endorsing now means he's getting out in front of any of that storm. Imagine the alternate scenario.
Compare that scenario with what we've got.
Think about this. If the DNC doesn't nominate B████ if Hillary gets rekt, they will be outing themselves as wholly undemocratic and not particularly interested in stopping the Republicans.

July 14, 2016 - 00:24

Jaxson Robinson

...

July 14, 2016 - 00:32

Benjamin Wright

Can you imagine the shitstorm if they had done that? Like said, it would be the most beautiful publicity gift they could accidentally give him, kicking a man with hundreds of delegates outside that convention, where a huge, highly receptive, and furiously angry mob has gathered.

The only thing with the slightest credence I've heard, is influence on the future platform (worthless), the rules for the next primary (of slight value, but nothing government legislation hasn't done better in the past), and replacement of internal Democratic Party officials (possibly valuable, but hard to pull off without sway IMHO).

I don't see how it makes any difference in the matter, S█████ is still a loathed outsider, and he's still the strongest polling candidate on the left.

July 14, 2016 - 00:38

Jaxson Watson

So this is how B████ loses, with a whimper

July 14, 2016 - 03:13

Jose King

...

July 14, 2016 - 04:10

Caleb Thompson

DNC Election Fraud Whistleblower Found Murdered

yournewswire.com/dnc-election-fraud-whistleblower-found-murdered/

A Democratic National Committee (DNC) official who worked on exposing recent election fraud during the Democratic primaries was found murdered this week.

Seth Conrad Rich was the Voter Expansion Data Director at the DNC and had been working on exposing the recent cases of election fraud and voter suppression during the recent primaries around the country.

Heatst.com reports:

As with the tragic murder of Molly Macauley in an affluent neighbor of nearby Baltimore in recent days, social media is abounding with political conspiracy theories and racially charged comments about Rich’s murder — even though very little is known about his killing and nothing about his killers.

Police have not identified a suspect and say there is absolutely no indication that politics were involved in the killing.

Rich lived in the neighborhood, police told a news conference Monday. He worked as a voter expansion data director for the DNC, whose chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz issued a statement Monday.

“Our hearts are broken with the loss of one of our DNC family members over the weekend. Seth Rich was a dedicated, selfless public servant who worked tirelessly to protect the most sacred right we share as Americans – the right to vote,” she said of the Omaha native.

“I have an enormous interest in public service and working towards making the world a better place,” Rich wrote on his LinkedIn page.

July 14, 2016 - 04:29

Bentley Reed

B████ ██████

July 14, 2016 - 04:45

Angel Martin

quality doom B████s

July 14, 2016 - 04:55

Angel Ross

Well that's it folks. America is truly its own Banana Republic now.

July 14, 2016 - 05:18

Aaron Reyes

...

July 14, 2016 - 07:18

Justin Stewart

trump labeled her crooked Hillary early, the fbi letting her go makes her seem…..well, crooked.

Her response to the dallas shootings was to tell white people to shut up and listen.

All trump has to do is keep quiet and let her commit suicide, and also pick a strategically important vp

July 14, 2016 - 07:45

Levi Morgan

oh, also no refunds S█████ voters are either going to stay home or vote jill stein, or vote trump out of spite

July 14, 2016 - 07:47

Lucas Jenkins

She also said that we expect too much of cops and not enough of everyone else…

July 14, 2016 - 07:51

Jacob Myers

It's amazing, The only person dumb enough to fuck this election up for the republicans is Trump and the only democrat who could possibly be more unlikable than Trump is Clinton.

but user, cops are workers too, they nothing people actually believe this

July 14, 2016 - 07:58

Caleb Reed

I think clinton will go with a white male vp, looking at google there are suggestions she is vetting an ex general named James Stavridis, this might balance out her sjw progressiveness that is driving away white males, also clinton is an insane warhawk so of course she would look at an ex general

July 14, 2016 - 08:10

Austin Johnson

The FBI investigation. That damaged Hillary's already shitty reputation to the point where she's losing in the polls against Trump in important states like Florida. At this point, Hillary needs B████ now more than ever. But make no mistake, he'll be the one getting votes, not her. All she's good for now is parroting shit the S█████ tells her, while B████ spends his time building a cudgel to keep her in line, which is why he's going to campaign for congresspeople and keep growing his progressive movement. If she backs down on her promises, she'll get fucked like Obama.

If you don't think that the Republican party platform in two years won't be "FUCK HILLARY", you're fucking crazy. B████ knows this fact. Since they won't have a Trump to scare voters with, they either need to get in line with us or they'll be fed to the dogs.

It could still happen that way regardless. S█████ delegates don't automatically go to Shillary. They can still vote for him at the convention and probably will. Nomination or not, he'll be coming out the convention more powerful than ever. There's no way they can stop the takeover now.

July 14, 2016 - 09:22

Caleb Wood

Hillary did the same thing in '08. She endorsed Obama but still competed/brought it to a vote at the convention. Only after she lost that vote did she throw in the towel. This is nothing new.

I've read that he had to endorse in order to be able to be at the convention. I don't doubt for a minute they'd try to have him just locked out. There's some stupid DNC rule of course, which has some vague wordings like anyone who isn't the "presumptive nominee" has to endorse publicly or something.

July 14, 2016 - 10:20

Henry Perez

weak meme, stop posting it already

July 14, 2016 - 10:22

Matthew Morales

I think it's in relation to this. Found it on facebook.

July 14, 2016 - 10:23

Kayden James

I hate that he & everyone else who wants to run in politics has to play these shitty political party games. We need more parties so they don't have to.

July 14, 2016 - 10:26

Luke Howard

Wow it's almost like party rules are designed specifically to keep reform from happening.

July 14, 2016 - 10:33

Luke Turner

TRUMP PICKS MIKE PENCE AS VP
indystar.com/story/news/politics/2016/07/14/report-pence-trumps-vp-pick/87075866/

July 14, 2016 - 12:18

Adam Ortiz

what a fucking surprise

July 14, 2016 - 12:33

Hudson Cox

Who the fuck is Mike Pence?

July 14, 2016 - 12:56

Eli Wright

governor of Indiana. He was also the one responsible for the gay wedding cake fiasco of 2015.
Come to think of it, this might help Shillary, pretending to care about gay people is popular in America now

July 14, 2016 - 13:01

Anthony Garcia

youtube.com/watch?v=rLkyhqQtME8

"56% Of Americans Want Hillary Clinton Indicted"

July 14, 2016 - 13:16

Ryan Campbell

It's a little early for picking a vp, right? He's probably doing this so it'll make it a little harder to screw him at the RNC convention, if they were planning to.

July 14, 2016 - 13:19

Ayden Garcia

Some guy who loves Koch money, apparently.

July 14, 2016 - 13:25

Matthew Richardson

https:[email protected]/* */[email protected]/* */he-presidency-e4ed85dffdf1#.8qtdp2l7g

July 14, 2016 - 15:18

Nolan Diaz

...

July 14, 2016 - 15:30

Henry Wright

Hm…
[email protected]/* */

July 14, 2016 - 15:30

Carson Torres

mfw

July 14, 2016 - 15:31

Dominic Scott

quads

July 14, 2016 - 15:33

Bentley King

This is why your name is redacted, B████.

July 14, 2016 - 15:40

Brandon Murphy

don't drop out [REDACTED]

July 14, 2016 - 15:51

Noah White

...

July 14, 2016 - 16:37

Josiah Gomez

0/10

You're not very creative, are you?

July 14, 2016 - 17:21

Tyler Moore

I kinda hope it's actually his master plan though.

July 14, 2016 - 17:24

Noah Baker

Man, that would be great.
But Hillary needs to be indicted first.

July 14, 2016 - 17:26

Hunter Rogers

Since no pink-flagger has shown up to discuss him, he was, at one time, one of the foremost Republican promoters of Religious Freedom Restoration Acts, which are meant to keep gays away from the Christian Right's wedding cake bakeries and other such businesses which is a superficial effect for rad-queers, but the RFRAs the Right wants to pass tend to have much nastier implications.

He eventually caved to neoliberal corporate pressure on the Indiana RFRA and now has a reputation for serving as an establishment spokesman for whichever lobbies pay him at any given moment. As a result, he endorses the TPP and TTIP and has criticized Trump from the establishment Republican position in the past. He's the kind of VP that the Beltway can throw money at, that the Kochs can eventually get behind, and that Cruz voters can settle for with the same misplaced enthusiasm of Lesser Evil thinking that some former #[REDACTED]Bros are infected with.

July 14, 2016 - 17:33

Cameron Morgan

I think has it laid out. [REDACTED] might have endorsed Shillary, but he's still going to have his delegates vote for him at the convention.

Though I think it will be a herculean task for him to get the nomination, even with Hillary's atrocious poll numbers and 56% of the American public wanting her in jail. The democrats are hellbent to destroy their own party make sure [REDACTED] feasts on their bones.

July 14, 2016 - 18:01

Dylan Powell

It is a deceitful regime under which we toil in many ways

July 14, 2016 - 18:03

Jacob Nguyen

Lmao, all these wordfilters. You're an asshole, board owner, but a funny one. Pls don't ban me :*

July 14, 2016 - 18:12

Bentley Cruz

Heh, that's great. Not much Trumptards can say about that.

I guess they'd counter with "but the VP has no real power". To which can be said - why can't Trump take charge of his own ticket? With the establishment money he's getting now, he has to play ball.

July 14, 2016 - 18:14

Jace Mitchell

I think [REDACTED] is a self imposed word filter

July 14, 2016 - 18:40

Nolan Sanders

Bernie

testing

July 14, 2016 - 18:43

Samuel Roberts

Huh.. interesting

B████ ██████

July 14, 2016 - 18:43

Sebastian Myers

...

July 14, 2016 - 18:52

Luis King

He endorsed someone who stands for everything he wants to change in the system. You're confusing trolling for having principle and integrity

July 14, 2016 - 19:41

Jayden Harris

it's about all any of us can hope at this point.

Okay Mr. Hilter I'll be sure to keep that in mind

July 14, 2016 - 21:36

Oliver Evans

THREADLY REMINDER THAT CNN'S PARENT COMPANY TIME WARNER SUPPORTS THE TPP AND ENDORSED SOPA-PIPA

July 14, 2016 - 21:40

Jose Price

And another thing: Half-Pence pissed off feminists by leading some of the campaigns to defund Planned Parenthood.

How did PP end up as a pure porky operation that hangs onto every corporate and state subsidy it can, anyway? Was it since Sanger or since Roe? Do socialist feminists see PP's corporate structure and operations as necessary evils for the sake of women's rights?

July 14, 2016 - 21:52

Jordan Gutierrez

The problem with PP is that it's corrupt because it knows it can be–no other company is willing or able to provide the services it does on its scale, especially abortions. Its employees also do genuinely care about helping people since they get flak from idiots that dedicate their entire lives to harassing them at work, to save teh babbies.

July 14, 2016 - 22:04

David Adams

CRINGEWORTHY UNFUNNY PUNS ARE COMING

July 14, 2016 - 22:12

Gavin Robinson

It probably needs all the extra cash to fight lawsuits and bills trying to destroy it. I don't know much about Planned Parenthood, but I do know it's been the Republican's favorite punching bag for decades.

July 14, 2016 - 22:24

Matthew Clark

Of course not, they're both courting the same corporations for money. How they mask the prostitution is what separates Republicans from Democrats.

July 14, 2016 - 22:39

Cooper Powell

yeah lying under congress is supposed to get you 5. what she did with classified info is also supposed to get you jail time. neither will happen.

July 15, 2016 - 00:51

Mason Martin

Maybe she'll realize how evil she is and drop out?

July 15, 2016 - 07:49

Brayden Nguyen

archive.is/NDHcf

>But S█████ said he'll remain a candidate until Clinton’s official nomination so his nearly 1,900 delegates can cast their ballots for him at the convention.

July 15, 2016 - 10:04

Jackson Rogers

...

July 15, 2016 - 10:06

Grayson Thompson

inquisitr.com/3307223/gary-johnson-polls-many-2016-voters-feel-the-johnson-after-bernie-sanders-endorses-hillary-clinton/

Not sure what to think

July 15, 2016 - 10:58

Justin Rogers

Why.

July 15, 2016 - 11:02

Xavier Green

They can't ignore his girth.

July 15, 2016 - 11:41

Asher Perry

...

July 15, 2016 - 12:02

Julian Gomez

youtube.com/watch?v=H6MIQ7awTVg

July 15, 2016 - 12:11

Owen Brown

Youre face when pol hasn't even realized trump just dumped the alt right by going with pence and is going full establishment now and will be taking trips to Israel and signing Hava Nagila in no time

July 15, 2016 - 12:31

Angel Richardson

The only possible good that could come out this election is Holla Forums salt. They bought Trump's marketing ploy hook line and sinker.

July 15, 2016 - 14:20

Isaac Wilson

Frig off B████

July 15, 2016 - 14:23

Elijah Jackson

HAPPENINGU TIME

bbc.com/news/world-europe-36809083

July 15, 2016 - 14:26

Isaac Smith

Can't wait 'till they find out he's an even bigger sellout than He Who Shall Not Be Named.

July 15, 2016 - 14:29

Hunter Bell

Yes. They're in cognitive dissonance mode now.

July 15, 2016 - 14:33

Christian Barnes

reddit.com/live/x9gf3donjlkq

Very interesting… Get the popped corns.

July 15, 2016 - 15:50

John Baker

Literal

Shots fired

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/754086524493307904?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

July 15, 2016 - 15:56

Brayden Harris

Is B████ truly a master ruseman?

July 15, 2016 - 16:28

Josiah Jones

It's being reported that the Turkish parliament building has been bombed from the air during coup.

Shit's getting crazy, all while Turkey's government is continuing to say the coup is crushed.. Obviously not if the parliament building just exploded.

July 15, 2016 - 16:57

Christopher Butler

Hardly surprising. Remember that swathes of [redacted] supporters were independents, not Democrats or members of other leftist parties, so you'd figure many had to be lolberts and lolbert-sympathizers.

[redacted] always polled well among centrists, and that includes Strong Independent Individualists Who Don't Need No Society.

July 15, 2016 - 17:42

Gabriel Barnes

youtube.com/watch?v=sO0g09LfbNQ&feature=youtu.be

CNN Türk Live Stream

Holy shit guys, all Hell is breaking loose in Turkey. Soldiers have taken over some media stations. Here you can hear shit going down, but the soldiers have taken everyone off camera. This is the second media outlet they've taken that I'm aware of.

youtube.com/watch?v=3mq5hrUDoYo&feature=youtu.be

FOX local news in Turkey, with an English speaking Aussie reporter, I believe.

July 15, 2016 - 18:00

Nicholas Howard

Here are some old articles that Jacobin and Counterpunch put out on Pence's RFRA push before he caved:

jacobinmag.com/2015/04/religious-freedom-indiana-gay-rights-discrimination/

counterpunch.org/2016/07/15/sundown-in-indiana-how-mike-pence-enshrined-bigotry-and-discrimination-into-law/

July 15, 2016 - 18:01

Nicholas Reed

Because memes

July 15, 2016 - 18:22

John Lewis

Absolute madman.

July 15, 2016 - 20:23

Jaxon Peterson

Trump/Pence logo. I'd like to dispel this myth that they don't know what they're doing. They know exactly what they're doing.

mashable.com/2016/07/15/donald-trump-pence-campaign-logo/#1F7udPhMymqO

July 15, 2016 - 21:20

Alexander King

...

July 15, 2016 - 21:23

Jacob Collins

Do they?

July 15, 2016 - 22:57

Henry Brown

it looks like benis in vagina
:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

July 16, 2016 - 02:59

Mason Bennett

It's this is an actual event. Hillary Clinton is going to be there. This is how the Clinton campaign views young voters, not with respect, but with condescension.

If they weren't busy sulking, S█████ supporters should go, catch some Pokemon, and grill her about immigration reform, free college tuition, and TPP.

July 16, 2016 - 08:39

Easton Sanders

like they want another purchase fiasco

July 16, 2016 - 08:55

Jayden Hall

Point on the other two, but why would anyone want to talk about immigration "reform" to a politician in public? Every political campaign is too beholden to porky, PC, or both, to do what needs to be done. Even outside the PC porky sphere where free debate occurs, (almost) everyone is too distracted by the nonissue of illegals to discuss our massive legal quotas.

Pretty much the only subtopic it's ever acceptable to lay down the truth about (and, coincidentally, the only reflection of his past anti-immigration votes that made it to S█████' platform), is assaults on petite bourg sectors like H-1B.

July 16, 2016 - 09:33

Cooper Evans

youtube.com/watch?v=SfPlEta-VF0
Shillary Clinton has a new ad attacking Trump…for saying mean things that will upset the children watching TV

July 16, 2016 - 09:43

Hunter Bennett

I highly recommend all these articles in their entirety:

Donations to Jill Stein Explode Nearly 1000% Since S█████' Endorsement of Clinton

Source: usuncut.com/politics/jill-stein-campaign-surge/
Archive: archive.is/mRgPT

Cornel West endorses Green Party’s Jill Stein, calls Trump "neo-fascist catastrophe," Clinton "neoliberal disaster"

Source: salon.com/2016/07/15/cornel_west_endorses_green_partys_jill_stein_calls_trump_neo_fascist_catastrophe_and_clinton_a_neoliberal_disaster/
Archive: archive.is/1aOgo

Green Party's Jill Stein is in Burlington, Vermont, S█████' Supporters Hope the DNC is Paying Attention

Source: inquisitr.com/3311168/green-partys-jill-stein-is-in-burlington-vermont-sanders-supporters-hope-the-dnc-is-paying-attention/
Archive: archive.is/WPUWT

July 16, 2016 - 11:22

Matthew Wood

based cornell west

July 16, 2016 - 12:38

Jaxson Powell

10*0=0

July 16, 2016 - 12:55

James Adams

Here's some more I found:

Jill Stein Pledges to Grant Edward Snowden a Full Pardon and Appoint Him to Her Cabinet

Source: usuncut.com/politics/jill-stein-edward-snowden-cabinet/
Archive: archive.is/GdAxw

Approximately 96% of over 26,000 voters in unscientific poll would support B████ ██████ if he joins the Green Party

Source: americapolitics.info/world-news/live-poll-will-still-support-bernie-sanders-chooses-green-party/
Archive: archive.is/57Sx8

Feds Monitoring Activists on Facebook Ahead of Republican Convention

Source: theintercept.com/2016/07/16/feds-monitoring-activists-on-facebook-ahead-of-cleveland-republican-convention/
Archive: archive.is/wrBXD

After Week of Violence, Cleveland Prepares for Chaos at Republican Convention

Source: theintercept.com/2016/07/14/after-week-of-violence-cleveland-prepares-for-chaos-at-republican-convention/
Archive: archive.is/sgXUR

Cleveland Hospitals Prepping for Violence at the Republican National Convention

Source: thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/07/14/cleveland-hospitals-prepping-for-violence-at-the-republican-national-convention.html
Archive: archive.is/B57S5

FBI, Homeland Security chiefs preparing for violence at political conventions

Source: reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-conventions-security-idUSKCN0ZU264
Archive: archive.is/vYDCy

July 16, 2016 - 13:02

Austin Myers

Sorry if I offended you, but I was just illustrating how we need to keep the pressure on Hillary and the Democrats. If Hillary thinks this is going to be a walk in the park now that she has B████'s endorsement, she's fucking wrong.

Hillary is a fucking joke, something we'll see more of when S█████ goes on the campaign trail. He'll be forcing her more to left with every rally and she won't be able to stop it.

This Jill Stein stuff is good. More pressure. Eventually we'll make a diamond out of this shit.

July 16, 2016 - 14:30

Zachary Powell

kok tep

July 16, 2016 - 14:36

Colton Turner

This was a great watch; thanks for sharing. I may even share this on social media(which I never use). I'll definitely share it with my family & friends, though.

July 16, 2016 - 15:24

Adrian Mitchell

cock tip

July 16, 2016 - 15:25

Angel Flores

...

July 16, 2016 - 15:41

Isaiah Cook

Oh god
Please make it stop

July 16, 2016 - 16:07

Jack Collins

...

July 16, 2016 - 16:12

Liam Robinson

archive.is/Bla20

July 16, 2016 - 17:53

Jason Lewis

...

July 16, 2016 - 18:04

Kayden Taylor

You wouldn't be this desperate if you went with the bird, stupid.

Though I will admit, I forgot to take into account Shillary being a giant, insufferable cunt with my prediction of a glorious S█████ takeover of the Democratic party. That's probably going be a major risk factor moving forward.

July 16, 2016 - 18:20

Eli Gomez

Pokey-Man Go?

July 16, 2016 - 18:22

Jacob Powell

American Politics
Hey. Psst. You.
You kids want a good kek?
huffingtonpost.com/jon-green/if-you-want-to-vote-out-a_b_10324188.html
dailydot.com/unclick/al-giordano-twitter-drama-accusations/
Keep in mind S█████ has a 100% approval rating in Vermont as Senator.
And the article doesn't make it clear, but what the guys were talking about is that the people encouraging him to run in Vermont in the first place were fake accounts run by a Hillshill.
Bonus: pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/02/hillary-clintons-internet-supporters-desperately-w.html

stop calling Birdie a sellout

Yes. Call him Birdie until BO stops being a cyka blyat.

July 17, 2016 - 00:23

Aaron Williams

politicsbreaking.com/clinton-threat-destroy-everyone-throws-washington-chaos/

July 17, 2016 - 01:16

David Hughes

He should have just when third party and never endorsed her.
The fact she's helping someone run against him shows she doesn't give a shit who her allies are.
I also keked at the fact that Giordano thinks he's to the left of B████.

July 17, 2016 - 03:52

Hudson Wright

She isn't helping Ally "Dudebro Blocked" Gordy though. This is just one guy egging him on.
I assume he means muh gernz and muh free trade. The fact he's claiming "roots in Vermont" because he spent like two years in the 80s picketing nukes is cashable at your nearest cooperative bank and worth approximately forty keks.
Other than that, this is the path forward B████ sees for his movement. I think he's right, others disagree. We'll just have to see.

July 17, 2016 - 04:09

James Rivera

Ive decided clintons vp will be boring white guy tim kaine who can stand in the background and do nothing and maybe help in a battleground state.

Elizabeth warren would be too much women

Julian castro would outshine her

July 17, 2016 - 04:25

Easton Carter

this sounds . like sensationalist nonsense

it even says guccifer is missing which doesn't seem to be anyway true

July 17, 2016 - 06:15

Grayson Long

And let the DNC dictate election reform and party platform at the convention? Madness. He said he would endorse the Clinton if she became the nominee and he did, but that doesn't mean he's totally on her side. He's going to continue being B████ ██████ and continue pushing his progressive agenda.

Hillary is going to blow a gasket at all the socialist shit she has to do to keep us happy.

I thought the DNC laundering money away from local elections into Clinton's pocket would've told you that. By using his election funds to support congressional Democrat races and campaigning for them, S█████ is going to dominate both the House and Senate, giving Hillary even less power.

July 17, 2016 - 09:33

Dominic Rivera

and what is going to keep them from doing that now

July 17, 2016 - 09:39

Leo Robinson

Lmao, wtf is this?

July 17, 2016 - 09:50

Sebastian Miller

Because they need our votes to beat Trump. The last thing they need at the convention is a big fight with S█████.

This is how I view the rest of the election going. The Democrats are going to let S█████ continue growing his populist movement because they cannot afford to fight him right now.

July 17, 2016 - 09:54

Brandon Morales

Have you not been paying attention during this whole time, or did you seriously miss the whole box stuffing, ballot burning, coin-flipping primary? Whoever wins is determined by how many countines are controlled by whichever party, because then they can use the privately made voting machines manufactured by the relatives of people in their parties to create just the votes they want.

The only thing voting does is lend an air of legitimacy to the whole charade.

What makes you think that a party that broke the rules in order to deny the Sandman delegates at the convention would give a shit about following those rules at the convention?

If the DNC is the policy-making oligarchy of the Democratic body, then they have a vested class interest in resisting everything S█████ says and does. They've already signaled this stance by the super-delegates adamant refusal to support el Sandernisto in spite of him winning some of them.

July 17, 2016 - 10:10

Hunter Turner

So it seems the Sandman can't just give up on Sandman when Sandman himself has given up?

It's kinda weird that now you are playing right into the Hilldog's game by thinking you are helping Sandman by voting democrats.

July 17, 2016 - 10:15

Jason Cook

what the fuck lefties? are americans this classcucked?

July 17, 2016 - 10:25

Daniel Hernandez

Most of the classcuck and wealthy GOP voters are switching to Johnson, who represents the old GOP of rich porkies, free trade, and austerity.

Trump, meanwhile, is grabbing working class Republicans and independents, along with union Democrats, some being S█████ supporters, who were significantly alienated by Clinton.

Jill Stein is getting disaffected S█████ supporters who actually are bona fide social democrats and are not complete SJWs.

The rest of the "Sanders supporters", who are just SJW millenials who hopped on the campaign slowly but surely, just defect to their Marie Antoinette because they're just managerial-professional types and college students.

politico.com/magazine/story/2016/05/2016-election-realignment-partisan-political-party-policy-democrats-republicans-politics-213909

This article explains the shift perfectly in my opinion.

July 17, 2016 - 10:54

Thomas Baker

The 2010 midterm elections. If you don't know about that, then you don't know about anything that's going on.

The Democrats do have a vested interest in not splitting their own party regardless of your nihilist conspiracies.

July 17, 2016 - 11:13

Matthew Jones

the answer is always yes

July 17, 2016 - 11:27

Christian Cook

It's true he gains some direct influence on the internal processes of the Democratic Party by collaborating with their bureaucrats, but it also gets in the way of attempting to electorally assassinate them and those who helped appoint them downballot.

Sanders should be far, far more aggressive in abusing the Democrats as an attack vector instead of a target for reform IMHO:
archive.is/hMxYZ

>Most of the classcuck and wealthy GOP voters are switching to Johnson, who represents the old GOP of rich porkies, free trade, and austerity.
I haven't been following them, but is that true? The ALP seems to oscillate between orthodox neoliberalism and populist "git awf mah lawn" isolationism.

What do you guys think would happen if, well into whatever administration's tenure, [REDACTED] managed to get lots of former Clinton campaigners in jail, and tons of scandal about the election is confirmed in court?

July 17, 2016 - 11:39

Matthew Hill

Hey, get fucked guy.

July 17, 2016 - 11:49

Kayden Moore

Who thinks this?

July 17, 2016 - 13:03

Jeremiah Turner

They're doing a shit job of not doing it.

I've been a registered democrat since I first voted. Fuck that party, fuck Hillary & fuck Debbie Wasserman-Schulz.

July 17, 2016 - 13:06

Matthew Perez

Jill Stein vs. Fox Business Debate

youtube.com/watch?v=lelEx10_PMQ

Presumptive Green Party nominee Dr. Jill Stein explained why she views a student loan bailout as a boost to the U.S. economy.

According to Stein, a student loan bailout would cost far less than what it cost to bail out the banks.

“Actually, if you count the quantitative easing for the bankers, that was an additional $4.5 trillion, which is far more than we need for student debt which is $1.3 trillion.” Stein told the FOX Business Network’s Maria Bartiromo.

Stein believes the student bailout could be achieved tax free, by the Federal Reserve canceling the debt.

“No, you don’t pay for it – the Federal Reserve basically cancels the debt, it doesn’t cost taxpayers one penny.”

Stein viewed a student loan bailout as leading to U.S. economic growth.

“The reason it’s good to do it for students is that it actually expands the economy. It’s the stimulus package of our dreams to put to work a whole generation of young people that’s held hostage in debt, that’s working two or three part-time, temporary, low-wage jobs, not doing what their passion is, what their skills are, what they’ve been trained to do. “

According to Stein, many young people took on student loan debt with the expectations of a stable, strong job market, but that changed in 2008.

July 17, 2016 - 14:35

Jace Sullivan

I applaud her for being willing to go on the 24 hr rightwing propaganda channel to voice her opinion.

July 17, 2016 - 14:57

Owen Lopez

...

July 17, 2016 - 17:45

Eli Hernandez

Libertarianism had its popularity rise thanks to Ron Paul. "Leave me the hell alone" and "give me liberty!" sounds very appealing to a lot of young voters, even if it's overly simplistic.

Perhaps B████ ██████ will do to Jill Stein in 2020 what Ron Paul did to Gary Johnson in 2016.

July 17, 2016 - 18:02

Nolan Stewart

Probably, because the dems are in the exact same position the Republicans were last election in regards to their base. Just keep in mind it also opens the Dems up for a violent insurgency by Bloomberg or some other crazy (which may be good, we will see how trump plays out)

July 17, 2016 - 18:15

David Baker

See . Johnson's rise is more due to disaffected "free trade, free immigration, and tax cuts!" Reaganite Republicans that hate Trump than anything.

July 17, 2016 - 18:27

Austin Hill

I'm still asspained the coup failed….

July 17, 2016 - 18:29

Jayden Baker

bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36799768
Trump supporters are reaching out to the Amish for votes now.
kek

July 17, 2016 - 19:39

Ethan Lewis

It was doomed to fail from the beginning. A faction within the military was expected to be purged by Ergodan within the coming months. Whether they were Gulenite or just ideologically secular remains to be seen. The point is, the coup attempt was a desperate, abrupt plan to not lose their positions from the eventual purge.

The Turkish military in 1980 is comprised of different soldiers than the one today. Most of the "secular" officers from back then are retired or dead. Now it's mostly poorly educated cogs in the wheel who are apathetic or pro-Erdogan.

July 17, 2016 - 19:46

Ryan Moore

Thanks for the info user.

IIRC Erdogan's (or his predecessor I can't recall which) purged the military repeatedly after word of planned coups broke out

July 17, 2016 - 20:17

Levi Morgan

nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Another-Blow-for-Bernie-DNC-Rally-Permit-Denied-by-City-of-Philadelphia-387098081.html

July 18, 2016 - 02:09

Christopher Jenkins

The 28 papers were released. Does anyone have a better source, maybe someone who's already read through them or has a better technical understanding. I just woke up & say they were released, yet to read yet:
abcnews.go.com/Politics/read-declassifed-28-pages-911-attack/story?id=40616690

July 18, 2016 - 02:19

Easton Stewart

saw*

July 18, 2016 - 02:19

Anthony Hernandez

gets me every time

July 18, 2016 - 02:35

Leo Howard

reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4syvv7/our_revolution_is_here_the_progressive_message/

"Our Revolution"

Join if you want to run.

July 18, 2016 - 04:10

Landon Bennett

youtube.com/watch?v=TFIR0Kz4hLU

Ruh roh

"New Black Panthers May Come Armed To The GOP Convention"

July 18, 2016 - 04:23

Jordan Nelson

It really goes against the spirit of protest, just a bit..

July 18, 2016 - 04:24

Michael Thomas

To be fair, there are essentially two kinds of protests, the "assembly of citizens seeking conference with each other and redress for their grievances" then the "angry mob disrupting the target of their ire".

July 18, 2016 - 05:08

Benjamin Jackson

Neither of which should require permits.

July 18, 2016 - 05:35

Charles Smith

meant for

July 18, 2016 - 05:35

Angel Bailey

Not bad. She always seems to stutter a little but otherwise she put those jokers in their place.

July 18, 2016 - 06:38

Logan Ward

If this article is true, Democrats will end up even more worthless than they already are. For any "Berniecrats", you may as well spend your time trying to make the Republican party socialist

July 18, 2016 - 09:01

Jeremiah Lee

This RNC looks like a Trump circlejerk, complete with Trump propaganda slogans and most of his family as speakers. I don't know if I'll watch it; it'll be too much rage and cringe.

2016 GOP CONVENTION PROGRAM ANNOUNCED

Source: convention.gop/post/147558746375/2016-gop-convention-program-announced
Archive: archive.is/BhaVG

Republican National Convention, Day 1 Airing LIVE Monday, Jul 18 1:00pm EDT on C-SPAN.org

Source: c-span.org/video/?412399-1/republican-national-convention-starts-100-pm-et-cspan

On this last link, you can watch the RNC Day 1, and it has links to the upcoming RNC days. 1:00pm EDT is 5:00pm UTC. You can convert it to your local time here: worldtimebuddy.com/edt-to-gmt-converter.

July 18, 2016 - 09:03

Ayden Hernandez

Some people ITT considers that because they think after endorsing Clinton, the Sandman now controls the Party.

July 18, 2016 - 09:12

Benjamin Diaz

Top fucking kek, this RNC is going to be a parody of unprecedented proportions. Just see what some of the speakers are going to be: Duck Dynasty, U.S. Navy SEALs and Marine Corps, Trump family members, family of Benghazi victims, UFC president, golfer, general manager of Trump Winery, astronaut, pastor, actor, venture capitalist, and CEOs.

What a complete joke.

July 18, 2016 - 09:22

Thomas Kelly

but why?

July 18, 2016 - 09:44

Samuel Hall

Because the right loves the folks types for some reason.
YEEEEEEEEEHAAAAWW

July 18, 2016 - 09:51

Parker Murphy

here's the Stimulator on the RNC protests
submedia.tv/stimulator/2016/07/18/rnc-comes-cleveland/

July 18, 2016 - 11:08

James Parker

youtube.com/watch?v=mrX3Ql31URA

People who use kids to make a political point should be burned alive.

July 18, 2016 - 11:43

Grayson Clark

also the gov. of mass is a republican so the democrats would lose a seat in the senate if warren left.

July 18, 2016 - 11:45

Cooper Smith

...

July 18, 2016 - 11:57

Brody Harris

when will Holla Forums officially endorse Jill?

July 18, 2016 - 12:28

Oliver Morris

Another livestream of the republican convention.

youtube.com/watch?v=Cdm8iZeh_XY

It's just as terrible as you thought it would be. Possibly worse.

July 18, 2016 - 12:29

Parker Torres

Her fingers are freakishly long bro.

July 18, 2016 - 12:29

Brody Cruz

...

July 18, 2016 - 12:30

Kevin Roberts

My dick endorses Jill.

July 18, 2016 - 12:32

Sebastian Barnes

some OC about the upcoming convention/ B████ ██████

youtube.com/watch?v=WOL-kbzwGYM&feature=youtu.be

July 18, 2016 - 13:07

Christian Myers

Guys, check the livestream, it looks like they're trying to take the power from the delegates!

Stopping Trump?

July 18, 2016 - 13:15

Brandon Green

At the RNC. Looking for a role call vote.. Tune in, habbenings could be taking place.

July 18, 2016 - 13:16

Lucas Collins

gay

no, they're just trying to keep trump from happening again. they're not that stupid. they don't even have anyone to replace him with.

next up, liberals picket the devil himself outside of the pits of hell. Jesus Christ, at least protest someone who has a reason to listen to you

July 18, 2016 - 13:18

Caleb Reyes

Ah, that makes sense.

July 18, 2016 - 13:20

Nicholas Gutierrez

RNC SHENANIGANS TRYING TO EJECT TRUMP

July 18, 2016 - 13:28

Logan Nguyen

Doubtful.

Lol @ "People are the ultimate resource" tho

July 18, 2016 - 13:31

Jaxon Ward

link? I cut my cord many moons ago

July 18, 2016 - 13:41

Mason Cooper

youtube.com/watch?v=Cdm8iZeh_XY
Boring af rn tbh fam

July 18, 2016 - 13:42

Jordan Cooper

kek thanks. The chat is full of white nationalists. which is entertaining in its own way

July 18, 2016 - 13:45

Jonathan Lee

...

July 18, 2016 - 13:58

David Moore

>dailycaller.com/2016/07/18/nine-things-millennials-should-know-about-socialism/
What did he mean by this?

July 18, 2016 - 14:08

Robert Perry

...

July 18, 2016 - 14:11

Evan Myers

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/755144723610869760

Wikileaks infrastructure is apparently under attack.

July 18, 2016 - 14:12

Camden Evans

W E W
E W
W E
W E W W E W
E W
W E
W E W

July 18, 2016 - 14:13

Cooper Sanchez

this PROFESSOR is sprouting Facebook meme tier economics like its some kind of holy wise information for 'millienials'

July 18, 2016 - 14:19

Jason Hill

members of the colorado delegation walked out of the RNC
redstate.com/saragonzales/2016/07/18/rnc-colorado-delegation-storms-convention-floor-unclear-will-return/

July 18, 2016 - 14:20

Tyler Rodriguez

“government ownership of the means of production,”

Literally every right winger ever.

July 18, 2016 - 14:22

William Clark

...

July 18, 2016 - 14:22

Wyatt Robinson

Literally none of that is accurate I'm impressed
literally wat
>Socialism has been responsible for the worst crimes in human history.
EVER SINCE I LEFT THE CITY WEW
youtube.com/watch?v=CIF9uBqSNhY
And the free market fixes it. :^)
pic

Well it's not called the dismal science for nothing. It's extremely politically charged and influenced by the status quo. If anything economics can be characterized as "the study of the operations of a market economy" because that's all it's been applied to and all it's relevant to, and people basically apply whatever laws they want and go "free market good because supply and demand", real world results be damned. It's the only science that does that besides maybe particularly crappy continental philosophy.

July 18, 2016 - 14:24

Hudson Peterson

My favorite part is how he gets really close to correctly defining socialism but misses, like he looked up the google definition and didn't like it or something

July 18, 2016 - 14:24

Lucas Taylor

ding ding ding ding

July 18, 2016 - 14:27

Benjamin Howard

Top Wew

July 18, 2016 - 14:29

Jack Stewart

fuck amerkkka*

July 18, 2016 - 14:47

Jack Collins

bigstory.ap.org/article/a89b60ae762945d7bd05895740044fe5/poll-us-mexico-border-residents-feel-ignored-oppose-wall

but muh terrorists and rapists are pouring over the wall, people don't feel safe

July 18, 2016 - 14:51

Carson Morales

He literally uses the standard definition but changes "workers" to "muh state"

July 18, 2016 - 15:15

Caleb Gray

...

July 18, 2016 - 15:22

Isaiah Martin

archive.is/92g9c
C'mon, I know a bunch of the people here used to be GG before it went to shit.

July 18, 2016 - 15:30

Matthew Campbell

Cornel West: Why I Endorse Green Party's Jill Stein Over "Neoliberal Disaster" Hillary Clinton (Democracy Now interview)

youtube.com/watch?v=D6pN6x6pGwA

reactionary idpol cancer

Why do we use archive links, anyway? And why not use Archive.org over Archive.is?

July 18, 2016 - 15:41

Lincoln Rogers

Ok, kid.

To avoid giving people traffic, i.e. revenue.

Because archive.org has a political agenda and started making calls about what thy would keep archived.

July 18, 2016 - 15:49

Hunter Williams

To not give garbage websites the clicks/ad revenue, I believe.

July 18, 2016 - 15:51

Christopher Moore

Keep your condescending retorts to yourself. I'm not the one bringing up, and ostensibly supporting, what amounted to an idpol circlejerk tantrum about videogame journalism and promotion of reactionary views to combat the "SJW" bogeyman.

To also respond to , that's already achieved through a simple adblocker or similar extension like uBlock Origin, uMatrix, Disconnect.me, Ghostery, etc. The archive link sometimes breaks the site and it obscures what the article is. While I seriously doubt this practice will change, I see it as a wasted and superfluous effort that I would hope is already addressed by the security culture present on this board.

Do you have any sources or further information on that? I'm unaware of this.

July 18, 2016 - 16:01

Easton Fisher

Funny enough, I usually end up just visiting the site without archive once I see the comment section is blocked out. I'm a sucker for comment sections. I guess I like the torture.

July 18, 2016 - 16:06

Gabriel Martin

I want to endorse Jill but the green party is fucking shit. I can't think of anything worthwhile the green party actually did. Please tell me if I'm wrong.
Just because she's a more agreeable person than Clit and Trump how can I be sure her running for pres isn't just a vanity thing for her as well?

July 18, 2016 - 16:12

Joshua James

I kind of feel the same way, though it's such a hassle to unblock most comments sections that aren't just Disqus due to all the extensions I use that I usually just don't bother anymore. I am still a masochist for stupidity, though.

Jill Stein has a pretty long record of activism. I doubt that her campaign is out of vanity. In fact, Stein has even stated previously that she doesn't really want any such position of power and is only running for president because she thinks the United States needs the policies she's proposing and doesn't consider any of the other options to be acceptable. Although I have some concerns with the Green Party, as well, Jill Stein and the Green Party is the only credible option for the left at this time, at least until a popular party rises which takes their ideological place.

July 18, 2016 - 16:16

Angel Kelly

How about that anti-capitalist amendment they passed not long ago

July 18, 2016 - 16:16

Chase Cook

tell me more.

July 18, 2016 - 16:18

Christian Morris

No offense, but any links I post would be off the front page of Google, so you might as well search yourself and see the multiple articles on this topic: google.com/search?q=green party anti-capitalist amendment

July 18, 2016 - 16:23

Nathaniel Gutierrez

...

July 18, 2016 - 16:31

Angel Adams

Another potential targeting & killing of cops.
youtube.com/watch?v=9WDD_9BUCGk

"Three Baton Rouge Police Officers Ambushed And Killed"

July 18, 2016 - 17:03

Jaxson Evans

this convention is aids

July 18, 2016 - 18:40

Ethan Flores

No shit, probably because most of the border area is spic majority already.

Lol. "Mexican-Americans still baffled as to why Mexican-American majorities turn US soil into Mexico 2.0., cite mo' money fo' dem programs as solution"

July 18, 2016 - 18:49

Carson Martin

EVERY. TIME.

July 18, 2016 - 18:50

Samuel Edwards

HIBERNIAN INTERNATIONAL CONSPIRACY

July 18, 2016 - 18:55

Lucas Rodriguez

Hey at least they didn't have to escape from Communist Sweden.

July 18, 2016 - 19:01

Caleb Sullivan

Melania Trump
Melania trump confirmed 2nd best commie slovenian alive today

July 18, 2016 - 19:36

Hunter Anderson

...

July 18, 2016 - 19:55

Nicholas Roberts

Those may block the ads but it's usually the site hit counts that are used to determine ad revenue and whether advertisers even want to do ads there. The only way to hit shit clickbait sites where it hurts is to stop visiting them.

July 18, 2016 - 20:19

Nicholas Watson

Also archive.org removed some backup of dirt on Chelsea van Valkenburg at her request early on during gamergate and I think they took down some archive of another page on Anita Sarkeesian's request as well. This happened early on in gamergate and it's when people realized that archive.org wasn't really a reliable tool for either backup purposes or viewing clickbait without giving web traffic.

July 18, 2016 - 20:22

Lincoln Jenkins

It hasn't been passed yet, it's just been written up for ratification at the national convention in Houston next month. It will almost certainly be passed there though.

July 18, 2016 - 20:23

Joshua Sullivan

Anyone else think "reactionary" is almost as bad a red flag as "progressive"?

thisisvideogames.com/gamergatewiki/index.php?title=Timeline/August#19_Aug_2014

thisisvideogames.com/gamergatewiki/index.php?title=Wikipedia#Relationship_to_Internet_Archive

It's precisely this sort of petty, incestuous, interlocking cliquishness that keeps the clickbait cycle running.

July 19, 2016 - 01:06

Charles Diaz

b-b-b-but only virgin reactionary shitIords care about videogames :^)

July 19, 2016 - 01:22

Colton Phillips

If it's used to label someone who's not reactionary, yes. Any time someone misuses terminology it's a red flag they're trying to co-opt something.

July 19, 2016 - 06:26

John Hernandez

It just feels inherently meaningless to me, like "reformist". Literally everything is reactionary.

July 19, 2016 - 06:54

Ryder Howard

GG was not a "nonpartisan fight against idpol cancer in defense of openness, freedom, and art". That's ludicrous negationist nonsense. It was from the beginning an idpol-driven initiative to attack the gaming industry for promoting a different form of idpol than that the rabid GG zealots demanded. Any ephemeral and ostensibly leftist origins of the controversy were swiftly dashed and replaced by rabidly right-wing and reactionary idpol cancer. It was never, at any point in its entire existence (and I followed it for a while, when it began), divorced from the idpol-addled reactionary agenda that informed a large majority—if not the near unanimity—of GG supporters.

Or they're ignorant of the term's meaning and use it too liberally. Fortunately, none of that is the case with my usage of it above and here.

July 19, 2016 - 07:20

Justin Miller

...

July 19, 2016 - 07:55

Joshua Campbell

Well they're right about it being leftist for about a week

July 19, 2016 - 08:12

Josiah Wilson

lel you just sound bitter at this point tbh, spouting all them buzzwords

The liberal clique that permeated the indie "scene" was hell-bent on shaping the industry to conform to their ideology, and were getting people to censor their games for being offensive. For fuck's sake, they got GTA V pulled from Australian shelves for promoting violence against women (because there are female NPCs and you can attack them just like any male NPC).

Just because Holla Forums saw something to take advantage of doesn't mean GG was nothing but idpol.

July 19, 2016 - 08:28

Jordan Martin

I didn't really get that impression. It's obvious that most of the prominent ecelebs would be rightists since the enemy are 100% "leftists", just like the prior anti-fundy status quo was mostly lead by leftists. Gamers are, demographically, more leftist than rightist, the masses of GG reflected that, and they still reflect it. I remember posting stuff like calls for dev labor unions with a positive response, even as late as when I shilled B████ ██████ campaign announcement the thread was mostly supportive.

Perhaps your opinion is distorted by the fact that the Holla Forums presence for GG was obliterated by eceleb butthurt wars between GGHQ & GGR, allowing Holla Forums to infest everything including the Holla Forums thread, but over on KiA (I only lurk leddit, I've never had an account), it's still pretty obviously a rightist-lead movement of leftists.

July 19, 2016 - 08:33

Luis Sanders

I support this. Violence against women is one of the defining issues of our time and letting pubescent boys beat off to hurting women will exacerbate it.

July 19, 2016 - 08:34

Jaxon Murphy

I remember that. Most of the people who were unsupportive got triggered by the wage gap being mentioned, and had reservations that he was a liberal idpoler.

July 19, 2016 - 08:36

Ethan King

The same country that produced Zizek also produced Melania Trump.

I don't know why this is so strange to me.

July 19, 2016 - 08:37

Thomas Moore

They are fairly opposite

July 19, 2016 - 09:09

Colton Morales

isnt melania basically a trophy wife

July 19, 2016 - 09:12

Matthew Brooks

I mean yeah, but she/Trump have pretensions otherwise.

July 19, 2016 - 09:16

Landon Cooper

Well actually most of my experience was with Twitter, which is/was split into reactionaries and ultra-reactionaries. GGHQ was mostly reactionaries as well. I'm well aware KiA is an improvement, I think they're in a minority though.

July 19, 2016 - 10:29

Lucas Lee

So Jill Stein is gonna be on the line at my state convention later this evening (we're doing a phone conference). I don't know how long she'll be on, but I might ask her some questions if I get the chance.

What should I ask her, Holla Forums?

July 19, 2016 - 15:56

Brody Lewis

youtube.com/watch?v=VMLyqIknJOE

What.

July 19, 2016 - 16:00

Tyler White

they never gonna do it

July 19, 2016 - 16:05

Zachary Hernandez

Is it gay to like traps?

July 19, 2016 - 16:09

Bentley King

only if the balls touch

July 19, 2016 - 16:09

Brody Carter

Ask about her being in Burlington, specifically if she talked to B████, and if so, then about what?

July 19, 2016 - 19:46

Julian Torres

Ask her how she feels about ending capitalism and what should replace it.

July 19, 2016 - 20:54

Adam Lopez

I wanted to ask her about what sort of legislation she would push for to promote the existence and sustainability of co-ops (with eminent domain and a number of European examples), but we were short on time so I just asked the more pertinent question of whether her campaign would be able to send anyone out to help us gather signatures to get her on the ballot. Her answer was maybe later. Thankfully the deadline in our state is quite a bit after most others.

July 19, 2016 - 21:00

Caleb Diaz

The Republicans in Congress will never agree to such a thing. It's a calculated move to try to get S█████ supporters to vote for Trump.

July 19, 2016 - 21:26

Evan Stewart

Remember that Trump's repeated refusal to dignify attacks on programs such as Social Security and Medicare as anything but "stupid and pointless" are what earned him the eternal ire of Rand Paul.

July 19, 2016 - 21:58

Easton Robinson

newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-ghostwriter-tells-all

Really interesting piece

July 20, 2016 - 06:00

Hudson Campbell

So are you all enjoying the Republican Nuremberg Convention?

July 20, 2016 - 09:34

Anthony Williams

That is interesting.

July 20, 2016 - 10:25

Carter Barnes

So, I'm going to be watching the entire RNC (it's recorded on C-SPAN), but I just finished a couple days ago watching the entire DNC platform hearings—yes, all ~62.2 hours of it. I watched the initial drafting and the delegate drafting.

Does anyone have any questions about the contents of the DNC platform drafting hearings? I can try to answer it from recollection.

July 20, 2016 - 11:26

Christopher Sullivan

>youtube.com/watch?v=xESuq9HWlRQ
what did she mean by this

July 20, 2016 - 11:31

Eli Bell

Ask her what the's going to do about getting back democracy to all spheres of life in America.
How is she going to return power to the municipalities and how is she going to support democratic cooperatives over hierarchical corporations?

July 20, 2016 - 11:37

Jonathan Murphy

How pissed were they at B████ ██████?

July 20, 2016 - 12:06

Daniel Parker

Its not really that surprising tbh

July 20, 2016 - 12:07

Caleb Parker

All the Clinton delegates and representatives generally spoke about unity and "coming together" and occasionally praised B████ ██████ for his work, actually. It was the S█████ delegates and representatives, and the audience during both (who were mainly pro-Sanders, especially during the delegate drafting stage), who were by far the most hostile and provocative. Naturally, Clintonites didn't clap for Berners and contrariwise, but generally the Clinton side was more interested in feigning support to promote unity whereas the S█████ side was more interested in calling shit out.

July 20, 2016 - 12:39

Andrew Moore

Hardly surprising. They're trying to act like they have the high ground.

July 20, 2016 - 12:41

Juan Evans

They're trying to look like the adults in the room.

July 20, 2016 - 13:48

Nathan Anderson

Someone should end her already. Can you imagine 4 years of this shit?

And no, I wouldn't prefer Trump of course. Fucked, either way apparently, unless some miracle happens.

July 20, 2016 - 13:49

Tyler Kelly

Yeah, why be passionate when you're really not & you have all the power already?

July 20, 2016 - 13:50

Colton Cooper

It's easier to rebuild from the ashes than from heat death.

July 20, 2016 - 13:53

Owen Brooks

It's bad that I couldn't tell which would be the ashes in that scenario.

July 20, 2016 - 13:56

Isaac Bell

No it's not. You have no idea how this works. It's easy to work the revolution from the position of having more resources to do it, not less. While Trump would be a nice reminder capitalism is awful and Bush 2.0 there's a difference

People who turned on Bush, eventually now say what a nice guy he is. Trump has support in such a way people would defend him like they do Reagan.

It's not that simple. It's never that simple. Giving into the American political system is bullshit and you should never do it. Don't vote.

July 20, 2016 - 13:57

Juan Russell

I can't wait until she becomes president and starts denying that the wars she starts have even happened.

July 20, 2016 - 13:57

James Carter

Trump.

That's not the point. At Trump's worst he will burn the system down. At that point people will be ready to take it back. For fuck's sake look at how strong his opposition already is before he takes office. With Clinton, we'd just get more of the same, and even though Obama has continued Bush's worst policies nobody cares when it's a neoliberal doing it. Do you not think the ruling class have figured it out? Bush did what they wanted but he was a Texan Republican so he was easy to criticize as a warmonger. Obama was the first black president and a neolib so nobody criticized him for doing the same shit (but worse with drones and spying). Clinton would be just one more step in a slow death that drains the planet of resources and the people of engagement. Just like how criticizing Obama is taboo because racism, criticizing Hillary is taboo because sexism. If the liberals can keep this shit going, they will be able to do whatever porky wants and have an impermeable shield from criticism.

July 20, 2016 - 14:03

Juan Walker

If they had the all the power, they wouldn't even be meeting with S█████. They're vulnerable right now and they know it, so they're digging in their heels to prevent being swept aside.

You're crazy. It's going to be free game on Hillary after the election. Unlike Obama, nobody likes her. He approval rating is hideous. She doesn't have overwhelming public support outside of "we got to stop Trump".

Once that's over with, they're going to crucify her and no one will give a fuck outside of CNN.

July 20, 2016 - 14:36

Jack Bell

On the platform, they do have all the power. Which is how they've screwed us all on having a good platform. But that was expected.

July 20, 2016 - 14:45

Gavin Collins

[they] are always marginal characters: outsiders, as they cannot trust or be trusted, cannot give or share, they are incapable of living in a community; they are repulsive, as – being insatiable – they are characterized by excessive eating, drinking, and sexual behavior, having no sense of shame; they are not taken seriously, given their affinity with jokes, storytelling, and fantasizing.[58]

When a mimetic crisis is artificially staged in the ritual process, it always happens in the presence of a “master of ceremonies” who maintains order once the stabilities of everyday life are dissolved in the rites of separation. When the schism takes place in real life, however, it is not certain that charismatic heroes emerge that are up to solving the situation through eidetic perception, in the Platonic sense.[67]

July 20, 2016 - 15:04

Zachary Smith

When trickster figures are mistaken for saviors, then emotions will be continually and repeatedly incited, until the community is reduced to a schismatic state. Societies can maintain themselves in such situations of oppression and violence for a long time, without returning to normal order, if stable external referent points are absent. This is why schismogenic societies need to maintain themselves in a perpetual state of war; presumably surrounded by enemies who try to conquer and destroy them.[73]

July 20, 2016 - 15:04

Luke Garcia

They have the power on the platform but it's not stable.

July 20, 2016 - 15:57

Michael Sanders

theintercept.com/2016/07/20/chamber-of-commerce-may-prefer-hillary-clinton-to-donald-trump/
president of the chamber of commerce kinda sorta endorsed $hillary

July 20, 2016 - 16:31

Connor Martinez

The Chamber of Commerce is against Trump principally for his opposition to the TPP and NAFTA (which is good) and his promotion of a 45% tariff on imported Chinese goods (which is ridiculously stupid). As far as I'm concerned, the CoC obviously prefers HRC.

July 20, 2016 - 16:33

Alexander Morales

I can't decode what you're saying. Do you support famous neolib treaties but oppose specific countervailing duties against neolib human rights arbitrage, vice versa, or something else? Both NAFTA/TPP and free trade with China are evil.

July 20, 2016 - 17:20

Xavier Walker

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
A commie who doesn't like free stuff? Like, nigga are you serious? Is this upside-down land? What the fuck is this board, honestly?

July 20, 2016 - 17:35

Wyatt Morales

Makes me wish all of the faggots didn't suddenly rush to say they're supporting Hillary. If they would've held out, they could pressure Dems to go further.

Even the fucking Republicans are trying to suck Sanderista cock.

July 20, 2016 - 17:37

Robert Rodriguez

Wtf are you smoking? Free trade undermines the welfare state.

July 20, 2016 - 17:38

Jeremiah Williams

All wellfare is corporate welfare, and undermines workers owning the means of production. So no, we don;t like tax cakes.

July 20, 2016 - 17:50

Wyatt Miller

I'm saying that the Chamber of Commerce has multiple reasons to oppose Donald Trump with many reasons to support Hillary Clinton. They obviously prefer the latter, especially since she's likely to pass the TPP and maintain the NAFTA anyway.

I don't support any such "free trade" agreements; I categorically oppose them entirely, though I am willing to tolerate so-called "fair trade" agreements, since international trade is necessary in a globalized capitalist society.

I do oppose a 45% tariff on Chinese imported goods, though. That will not only seriously damage relations with China, but it will also hike prices in the United States. That will lead to price hikes in Europe, and the response from European countries will likely be to throw a tariff on imported goods from the United States, which only further hurts the economy. Implementing a tariff on Chinese imported goods overall hurts the working class and disrupts international trade during a recession, which only further worsens the recession (and that disproportionately impacts the working class).

July 20, 2016 - 17:59

Wyatt Ortiz

Oh and a tariff like that would also virtually cripple the Chinese economy, leading to what could amount to a great depression there (especially with its housing bubble on the verge of popping). That would not only hurt literally hundreds of millions of Chinese workers, whose conditions are already not that goods, but it could have massive ripple effects throughout the global economy, potentially aggravating it to the point of prematurely triggering the next recession (which is likely to happen later this year or next year, anyway). Overall, that policy of Trump's is ridiculously stupid and a serious threat to the global economy and the conditions of hundreds of millions of workers.

As for current trade relations with China being "evil", there's not much that can be done with the current trade conditions between the U.S. and China. We're in a precarious interdependent relationship and drastically changing that relationship, especially prematurely, can destabilize the global economy. As much as we may hate it, current U.S.–China trading relations, including perhaps even PNTR, are here to stay.

July 20, 2016 - 18:09

William Jones

I really don't know how to break the fucking conditioning. They all immediately start yelling about how Communism killed 500 gorillion people and 1984 if I even mention Jill Stein, much less Socialism. And if I try to explain that the world Libertarian comes from Socialist history they're just like "nuh uh that's Liberal propaganda, anarchy is a right-wing concept"

July 20, 2016 - 18:18

Jeremiah Price

I don't think so, mate

July 20, 2016 - 18:35

Julian Gonzalez

I just meant they're smart enough not to be Liberals or vote for trump but from that they drink the kool-aid of Right-Libertarianism

It's like people who are smart enough to recognize that there's nothing fulfilling in living a wageslave, consumerist life but instead of joining a revolutionary party or demonstrating they go and start/join a cult

July 20, 2016 - 18:53

Mason Myers

At least you know of fair trade (requiring American law to apply in China, for instance), but do you know their relationship to countervailing duties (offsetting arbitrage)? The two ideas are extremely similar. Essentially, regulatory arbitrage works because production in unregulated areas (China's retrograde, lax, highly corrupt laws and the conditions they allow) and consumption in highly regulated areas (America's comparatively enlightened, strict, fair laws and the conditions they protect) can interact without hindrance, allowing excess profits to be made that would be impossible in a single legally "harmonious" environment.

This arbitrage profit can be described as a percentage. Obviously specific numbers for the exact amount of money saved by dodging American law abroad would be more accurate, but an overall number for the average amount of arbitrage by all trade is also somewhat useful. Regarding the 45% number, I would be astonished if it is even close to the massive regulatory arbitrage siphoned away by offshoring.

Fuck. That. Shit.
Offshoring is evil, it is evil for 1st-worlders, it is evil for 3rd-worlders; it is not helping the development of a sustainable economy in China, but harming it; it is not permanent, or even very old, but was in fact something created rapidly from 1973-1978 in a nuclear-grade assault on the 1st-world working class; it isn't even an aid to the global economy, but in fact the most ludicrous imaginable exaggeration of a tax cheat or pyramid scammer's mindset, enlarged to transnational scale.

It must stop.

True, but it's a necessary evil, since even in a system where employers weren't underpaying employees, other circumstances could necessitate the provision of welfare. Although, I've often thought imposing welfare expenses on employers might be a good way to disincentivize abuse.

July 20, 2016 - 19:31

Wyatt Reyes

i hope summer ends soon and you kids go back to your retarded liberal schools

July 20, 2016 - 21:07

Isaiah Cox

youtu.be/WY3LcdZ5T0k

July 20, 2016 - 23:41

Noah Nelson

It's a general election thread, not a B████ thread.

July 21, 2016 - 05:51

Chase Ross

why do you hate poor people, comrade?

just let porky create jobs for those poor third worlders

they need jobs more than you muh privileged first worlders

July 21, 2016 - 06:10

Adam Powell

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/756025249926418432?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4twcr7/wikileaks_on_twitter_are_you_ready_for_hillary/

Finally they've given us a date/time. Let's hope we get something good. Based on the build up, I'm hoping.

July 21, 2016 - 10:28

David Nguyen

FUCKING FINALLY

July 21, 2016 - 10:43

Sebastian Bailey

Calls for violence, repression and war dominate day three of Republican Convention
wsws.org/en/articles/2016/07/21/conv-j21.html

By Patrick Martin
21 July 2016

July 21, 2016 - 11:15

Isaac Williams

...

July 21, 2016 - 11:15

Connor Flores

I don't believe anything they reveal is going to sway the establishment from going with Hillary. It would have to be pretty fucking damning to move those blockheads.

July 21, 2016 - 12:20

Daniel Gonzalez

Unless it's Bill's post-underage-sex-orgy selfies or videos of Hillary literally pulling the trigger on someone I doubt it.

But I'd still like to hope.

July 21, 2016 - 12:27

Anthony Cruz

Ive been thinking, there probably is a small dark part of liberals who want trump to win.
It would give them something to fight against.
Like when bush was president, they could make art, music, tv shows, all fighting against da man.
Right now obama is da man and ratings for the daily show, msnbc, etc are stagnating, iif Hillary wins ratings would go back to pre election levels, the democrats will be responsible for the war crimes.

July 21, 2016 - 12:57

Charles Garcia

JULIAN ASSANGE YOU FAGGOT
DROP THE FUCKING EMAILS ALREADY

July 21, 2016 - 14:31

Angel Stewart

Sorry for bad grammar
where were you when wikileaks showed the mails?
I was home eating smegma butter when piotr came in
"hillery is kil"
"yesss"

July 21, 2016 - 14:45

Colton Reyes

Her war record was not enough to sway them. Her record on gay rights was not enough to sway them. Her backing the coup in Honduras, her backing the coup in Egypt, her kowtowing to Bibi Netanyahu didn't do it. Her literal endorsement of and by Henry Kissinger didn't do it. Her dismissal of post-colonial concerns in Africa (and this, in a heavily idpol-infested liberal camp) didn't do it. These idiots are perma-spooked. They'll defend anything by their queen.

July 21, 2016 - 14:46

Asher Peterson

By "establishment", I think the other posters were referring to the (largely bipartisan, TBQH) bigwigs in control of the Democrats, not the deluded Goon shock troops you personally encounter online and at political events.

July 21, 2016 - 14:54

Brody Rogers

IT'S NOW OR NEVER YOU SON OF A BITCH

July 21, 2016 - 14:56

Nicholas Sanders

I think the best possible outcome from this, barring a miraculous political upset, would be to put even more pressure on Hillary and the establishment to appease S█████ and his supporters.

July 21, 2016 - 15:04

Jace Murphy

And why would we want that?

July 21, 2016 - 15:07

Thomas Bennett

bigstory.ap.org/article/ce91b562f52f4f109a2d6c2ac812402e/union-mad-police-victims-have-voice-dnc-not-cops-widows
copcucks whine that the DNC won't pander to them more

July 21, 2016 - 15:31

Liam Johnson

Thoughts on Mike Moore saying he thinks Trump is gonna win?

He's probably right tbh

July 21, 2016 - 18:35

Liam Rodriguez

Moore is a giant faggot but he's onto something here-everyone in the media drank the neoliberal koolaid and assumes that Clinton is guaranteed to win.

July 21, 2016 - 18:43

Dominic Lewis

Well there might be a case for Hillary not being healthy enough to be president.

youtube.com/watch?v=lJjHTeo6mVw&t=0s

and this

youtube.com/watch?v=QzCQg94oOmk

July 21, 2016 - 19:43

Gabriel Cruz

Moore probably wants trump to win so he can be relevant again with his documentaries.
Hillary winning is just another boring 4 to 8 years of the status qou.
I said earlier there is a dark part of a liberal that wants trump to win so they can have something to fight against.

Or maybe he just knows some shit we dont know.

July 21, 2016 - 19:48

Eli Jenkins

? Thats just a goofy gesture. I do spastic shit like that all the time.

July 21, 2016 - 19:48

Caleb Collins

Good, then the democrats and the #NeverTrump republicans stumping for 2020 can form a supermajority against him, vote down every single last thing he could ever want, and bide their time until the loli lawsuits pick up steam and he ruins the Republican brand even more in the eyes of the electorate.

July 21, 2016 - 19:48

Colton Watson

I don't know it just doesn't look like a voluntary reaction to soft questions.

Health issues have popped up other times during the campaign for her so I would be too surprised if things got worse.

July 21, 2016 - 19:51

Ryder Phillips

Someone make a triggered gif of that.

Also, she's breaking down. beep beep.

July 21, 2016 - 19:53

Justin Price

Look, all we need to do is let trump shit the bed for 4 years, burn everything to the ground, and then rebuild.

Through trump a new politcs will be born on the left and right.
The center right neocons/ neoliberals will be on the ropes.

July 21, 2016 - 19:54

Daniel Carter

This keeps happening

I doesn't help

July 21, 2016 - 19:57

Noah Gutierrez

I don't think we're in disagreement here, I just think it should and may end before in a year or so with Trump being impeached for pedophilia and/or Trump U fraud, not all four years.

July 21, 2016 - 20:00

Josiah Clark

What is this about Trump and pedophilia?

July 21, 2016 - 20:02

Camden White

here you go comrade.

July 21, 2016 - 20:03

Henry Nguyen

Dude that's fucking amazing.

You made that?

July 21, 2016 - 20:09

Camden Miller

grabbed it from half Holla Forums

July 21, 2016 - 20:19

Colton Watson

Kinda figured.

July 21, 2016 - 20:23

Ryan Green

he's being accused of raping a 13 year old in 1994.

July 21, 2016 - 20:26

Dominic Parker

thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/30/the-billionaire-pedophile-who-could-bring-down-donald-trump-and-hillary-clinton.html

There's a kind of uneasy de facto deadlock over this issue due to the fact that Bill-O is also implicated, but if Hillary loses the White House for the dems then the Clintons will be persona non grata in the party and there's nothing that'll hold the dems back from letting this go ahead.

July 21, 2016 - 20:27

Easton Thomas

I don't even know why I bother with these people

July 21, 2016 - 20:28

Dylan Edwards

youtube.com/watch?v=r_gqsGiA2EI
TYT defending NATO because Trump said he was against it

July 21, 2016 - 20:29

Jordan Nguyen

He's actually pretty close to right is the sad thing. You should've told him that economics is a really low-level discipline that's easy to understand and all of the people held up as important or influential in economics are held up as important or influential because they advance the agenda of the rich. It's also a matter of the sort who even goes into economics, liberals don't do economics.

July 21, 2016 - 21:02

Asher Evans

nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2012/02/jonathan-chait-why-im-so-mean.html

July 21, 2016 - 21:10

Brayden Hughes

Exactly. There's a reason why so many people on like Fox News are colossal bumbling fuckups independent of their political opinions.

July 21, 2016 - 21:41

Evan Lewis

That's bizarre. No savvy politician would voluntarily do something like that.

July 21, 2016 - 22:21

Jordan Ward

Some advice: Quit with this shit.

I despise Hillary and hope she gets trampled by horses or something, but seeing this in the context of her possibly being ill/having a seizure actually makes me involuntarily sympathetic to her. I don't like feeling sympathetic to Hillary, please stop. This approach will backfire. It's Holla Forums level nonsense.

July 21, 2016 - 22:45

Colton Mitchell

Fucking Christ. If it's always gonna be this bad I might have to throw my hat into some of these races in 2018 and 2022, the dem candidates here are always a fucking joke.

July 21, 2016 - 23:19

Jaxson Robinson

explain this, leftypol
why dont you care about comrade corbyn?

July 21, 2016 - 23:50

James Martin

can't even bring myself to watch it. tl;dw?

July 21, 2016 - 23:54

Adam Jones

The Republican state senator for my district is literally running a campaign on "counter-terrorism" that's all his signs say, that's just about all his website rambles on about, and he'll win.

The apathy is real. How could anyone ever be a reformist.

July 21, 2016 - 23:54

Carson Ross

...

July 22, 2016 - 00:17

Nathan Scott

...

July 22, 2016 - 02:41

Asher Clark

Not buying it. The Democratic party used every dirty trick in the book to deny you the nomination and neuter your "revolution", I don't see how more inevitably disenfranchised idealists will fix the situation.

July 22, 2016 - 04:06

Connor Johnson

Believe it or not, there's actually a leftist rationale for eliminating corporate taxes: Business taxes are a loophole magnet because of how fuzzy the line between deductible expenses and accounting artifacts are (for the ultimate example of this, see why contractors like in showbiz always say "never work for net"), but if business taxes were eliminated, those corporate profits would still eventually have to leave the corporate balance sheets as salaries/bonuses/securities/etc, where the personal tax system would have an unobstructed shot at it.

Sadly, the amount of money that just sits inside corporations or is embezzled presents a problem for such simple measures:
ctj.org/ctjreports/2013/06/fact_sheet_why_we_need_the_corporate_income_tax.php

American elections are suffering from the same problem as American Christmas, with the campaign season growing each cycle to the point where it will soon overlap itself. Electoral campaigns in other countries are still much shorter.

Because most downballot contests involve such a tiny number of participants that a handful of autists and their personal acquaintances could completely overwhelm almost any of them.

July 22, 2016 - 04:32

Grayson Kelly

It's because of that stroke she had.

July 22, 2016 - 06:17

Luke Brooks

Trump delivers fascistic rant to conclude Republican National Convention
wsws.org/en/articles/2016/07/22/trum-j22.html

By Joseph Kishore
22 July 2016

July 22, 2016 - 06:36

Daniel Stewart

...

July 22, 2016 - 06:36

Nathan Anderson

that's the worst of it

July 22, 2016 - 07:51

Samuel Green

...

July 22, 2016 - 07:56

Benjamin Jenkins

What went wrong?

July 22, 2016 - 08:07

Nathan Morgan

coin flips

July 22, 2016 - 08:07

Christopher Morales

Closed primaries.
"Lost" absentee ballots

July 22, 2016 - 08:10

Gabriel Carter

Trusting a democrat

July 22, 2016 - 08:31

Austin Harris

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/
wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/
wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/
wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/
wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/
wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/

July 22, 2016 - 08:31

Jace Turner

absolute madman

July 22, 2016 - 08:34

Carson Nguyen

Man, I wish that were true. I'd be rubbing my Aryan hands to fast, the resultant energy would lead to nuclear fission.

July 22, 2016 - 08:37

Robert Myers

W e w

July 22, 2016 - 08:37

Carter Allen

What the living fuck. The first video could just show her sad attempts at trying to be funny, but that second one… this bitch might literally die before November.

July 22, 2016 - 08:39

Jeremiah Hill

...

July 22, 2016 - 08:43

Cameron Cox

>wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/5529
about the nevada memery

July 22, 2016 - 08:45

Jordan Flores

literally correct the record

July 22, 2016 - 08:50

Jose Evans

Looks like they were actually concerned enough to keep track of third party influence in his campaign.

July 22, 2016 - 08:53

Benjamin Long

jesus, they're butthurt over B████

July 22, 2016 - 09:00

Jose Garcia

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/5740
Boy, gee. This sure is some stuff right here.

July 22, 2016 - 09:08

Lincoln Hernandez

>wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/9999
>From:[email protected]/* */ (DWS's email)

July 22, 2016 - 09:10

Jace Long

Ohoh fuck

July 22, 2016 - 09:12

Ryan Price

They were really pissed about Cornel West.

July 22, 2016 - 09:13

Hunter Clark

>wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/10380
RECORDS MUST BE CORRECTED

July 22, 2016 - 09:15

Julian Myers

b-but they said they would definitely take progressive's ideas seriously

July 22, 2016 - 09:19

Colton Miller

What's going on in that email? It sounds like a stream of consciousness.

July 22, 2016 - 09:19

Mason Hill

Welcome to Ameriga. Now vote for Hillary and fuck you.

July 22, 2016 - 09:19

Matthew Lewis

anal annihilation

July 22, 2016 - 09:20

Jaxson Gutierrez

...

July 22, 2016 - 09:21

Nolan White

It's a speech-to-text conversion of a voice mail.

Also wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/11056 OH FUG BOYS

July 22, 2016 - 09:22

Jayden Cox

...

July 22, 2016 - 09:22

Benjamin Williams

They were trying to do some real damage control in Rhode Island.

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13268

July 22, 2016 - 09:24

Tyler Perez

...

July 22, 2016 - 09:26

Jeremiah Wilson

uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Throwing_someone_under_the_bus

July 22, 2016 - 09:28

Christian Wilson

user, I…

July 22, 2016 - 09:30

Michael Parker

>[email protected]/* */
who is this?

July 22, 2016 - 09:34

Wyatt Scott

someone in the DNC i guess. It was sent from somebody at Time

July 22, 2016 - 09:35

Jason Walker

...

July 22, 2016 - 09:38

Ryder White

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/5750

July 22, 2016 - 09:38

Liam Hernandez

And people were wondering why this thread was still up.. ;)

July 22, 2016 - 09:39

Josiah Ortiz

pls leave

July 22, 2016 - 09:42

Ian Thompson

From the Holla Forums lol thread with love

July 22, 2016 - 09:44

Elijah Young

Now I know why Holla Forumsyps focused so hard on B████ over Hillary.
Just how shilled was Holla Forums? between unrepentant trump shills (including an actual ad on the site for far too long to be ironic) and Hillbots steering the trumptards towards B████.

July 22, 2016 - 09:45

Ayden Walker

I'm not saying I support PNTR with China, only that the current global economic conditions have cemented PNTR with China such that its repeal would yield potentially disastrous results. There is not much that we can do with respect to China; the U.S. is now waning and the core of the capitalist world-system is now shifting to China. Anything we do could only temporarily mitigate those effects, if that. More likely is that our flailing will only disrupt the international markets and aggravate the subsequent recession (which hurts workers) while not meaningfully improving the conditions of the workers in either country.

I don't know how we should approach the current U.S.–China trading relations, but ridiculously high tariffs and wholesale repealing of those normal trade relations seems like more of a death wish for the U.S. economy than a serious attempt at improving the conditions for the working class and setting the conditions for more revolutionary approaches.

July 22, 2016 - 09:46

Anthony Williams

Never ;—-D

July 22, 2016 - 09:50

Bentley Jenkins

Were they planting people?
I actually remember this question coming up at one point.

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/11508

July 22, 2016 - 09:51

Christopher Wilson

The advert was most likely funded from Iron March / Stormfront donors.

July 22, 2016 - 09:53

Leo Ward

OH SHIT
VOICE MAIL MESSAGES
wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/?file=mp3&count=50#searchresult

July 22, 2016 - 09:54

Xavier Ramirez

u.pomf.is/ayvorm.mp3

A thousand keks

July 22, 2016 - 09:56

Ryan Harris

lmao

July 22, 2016 - 09:58

Kayden Johnson

somebodys angry

July 22, 2016 - 09:59

Chase Baker

So far it's messages of a little kid talking, and old-ass Hillary supporters bitching about S█████ & Cornel West. Still listening, but not very promising so far.

July 22, 2016 - 10:00

Nolan Phillips

She's in there multiple times too, I found another message with her ranting about how the DNC isn't doing enough to shut out S█████.

July 22, 2016 - 10:01

Cameron Robinson

Just found a third.

Saltiest woman alive.

July 22, 2016 - 10:03

Evan Nelson

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/16150

They don't even know who she is.

u.pomf.is/psyzkb.mp3

July 22, 2016 - 10:04

Zachary Powell

...

July 22, 2016 - 10:07

Ayden Edwards

Apparently it's this guy

twitter.com/MarkPaustenbach

July 22, 2016 - 10:11

Connor Walker

They've got all her tweets here for some reason.

July 22, 2016 - 10:13

Austin Hall

kek

July 22, 2016 - 10:13

Blake Taylor

It's kind of creepy, how they're archived like this.

July 22, 2016 - 10:14

Joshua Wright

She's on the hit list

July 22, 2016 - 10:14

Angel Hernandez

twitter.com/wikileaks

Their twitter is churning them out

July 22, 2016 - 10:15

Tyler Howard

I'm just waiting for someone to find evidence of outright organized crime shit in that database.

July 22, 2016 - 10:15

Parker Rodriguez

Same.
wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/1779

July 22, 2016 - 10:17

Luis Garcia

Who has her tweets?

July 22, 2016 - 10:18

Caleb Roberts

...

July 22, 2016 - 10:20

Christian Hughes

Original source of pics plus others I didn't post seem to come from an Alan Reed, in an email chain discussing whether they can vet her without making a scene.

July 22, 2016 - 10:20

Jacob Jenkins

She's on reddit commenting about it, too

reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4u2khq/wikileaks_are_you_ready_for_hillary_we_begin_our/d5mfwfp

July 22, 2016 - 10:24

Kayden Parker

You could've said the same thing about American reliance on slavery and agriculture in the early 1800s, or on a constant (very modern-China-like) flow of warm bodies in and resources out in the early 1900s, yet we decided to stop both of those things, at great cost, but are better for it. The regulatory arbitrage-driven global "economy" is a parasitic, unsustainable illusion that must be dismantled before it completely drains its victims and collapses. Fair trade mandates would obviously be the best way, but even stonewall isolationism would be better in the long term than continuing the abhorrent status quo.

July 22, 2016 - 10:31

Caleb Young

...

July 22, 2016 - 10:34

Jonathan King

...

July 22, 2016 - 10:42

Grayson Taylor

back to reddit

July 22, 2016 - 10:45

Hunter Cruz

kek
Just found this. Same guy.

July 22, 2016 - 10:46

Daniel Williams

>wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/11878
From: [email protected]/* */ [mailto:[email protected]/* */]
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 9:13 AM
To: Miranda, Luis
Subject: Fwd: MSNBC’s Brzezinski: Wasserman Schultz ‘Should Step Down,’ Dem Primary ‘Has Been Unfair’ To S█████

This is the LAST straw. Please call Phil a Griffin. This is outrageous. She needs to apologize.

DWS

July 22, 2016 - 10:46

James Gutierrez

I know the guy IRL. It's to protect my identity.

July 22, 2016 - 10:46

Lincoln James

...

July 22, 2016 - 10:46

Oliver Perez

...

July 22, 2016 - 10:49

Nathaniel Scott

twitter.com/fawfulfan/status/756539492060856321

Not a whole lot you should be scared of.

July 22, 2016 - 10:50

Jaxon Cook

>wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/11508

July 22, 2016 - 11:00

Justin Torres

Enjoy your democracy.

July 22, 2016 - 11:09

Aaron Ortiz

ETHICS IN POLITICAL JOURNALISM!

July 22, 2016 - 11:11

Grayson Garcia

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/522173583351906306?lang=en

July 22, 2016 - 11:14

Grayson Smith

...

July 22, 2016 - 11:24

Austin Brooks

B████ ██████

July 22, 2016 - 11:30

Hudson Collins

Blanking out identities on an anonymous forum? Unthinkable!

July 22, 2016 - 11:30

Brandon Sanders

> From: Daniel Strauss >[[email protected]/* */>]

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/6473

July 22, 2016 - 11:34

William Brown

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13541

They know.

> On Apr 24, 2016, at 9:50 AM, Miranda, Luis
> ________

July 22, 2016 - 11:38

Aiden Anderson

A redditor found this.

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4091

reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4u2khq/wikileaks_are_you_ready_for_hillary_we_begin_our/d5mhn8g

July 22, 2016 - 11:41

Jace Peterson

Well that's gonna be fun.

July 22, 2016 - 11:47

Jaxson Scott

fucking David Duke is trying to run for senate in Louisiana on the republican ticket

July 22, 2016 - 11:54

Jordan Jones

theintercept.com/2016/07/22/new-leak-top-dnc-official-wanted-to-use-bernie-sanderss-religious-beliefs-against-him/

Damage control:

July 22, 2016 - 11:57

Ayden Russell

he lost in 1992 against a known criminal - no way he'll get it this year, Louisiana is less white than then

July 22, 2016 - 11:58

Joseph Nelson

What does this mean? Does this mean Tim Canova actually has a big chance to fuck up the DNC chair if S█████ campaigns for him?

July 22, 2016 - 11:58

Brody Roberts

>wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4091

the DNC is spitting news articles into websites.

this is literally the DNC controlling major media outlets

I know i saw an earlier one for CNN

July 22, 2016 - 12:01

Camden Jackson

...

July 22, 2016 - 12:01

Cameron Sanchez

>wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4776

July 22, 2016 - 12:02

Grayson Richardson

Post the link next time.
twitter.com/keithkahn/status/756550999318335491

July 22, 2016 - 12:04

Bentley Baker

...

July 22, 2016 - 12:08

Leo Martinez

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4061

Talking about putting an op-ed by DWS "on blast." They seem to use that phrase whenever they want one of their messages propagated by their sockpuppets.

July 22, 2016 - 12:10

James Sanchez

...

July 22, 2016 - 12:16

Jayden Jones

Debbie better start looking for another job.

July 22, 2016 - 12:17

Juan Watson

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7240

CNN goes to the DNC to see if an article is acceptable or "too heavy handed".

Clinton News Network indeed.

July 22, 2016 - 12:18

Hunter Price

Aren't you glad this is an election season? If the Clinton approved networks don't carry this story, their rivals will with a vengeance.

July 22, 2016 - 12:21

Parker Powell

#ClintonNewsNetwork

July 22, 2016 - 12:21

Carson Green

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/3499

A $10,000 check going missing, then speculation it's "a Correct the Record"..

reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4u2khq/wikileaks_are_you_ready_for_hillary_we_begin_our/d5mhtcs

July 22, 2016 - 12:25

Ethan Jackson

I'm totally donating to Wikileaks after this. We all should. I should have been, already!

July 22, 2016 - 12:26

Brody Russell

Yes, comrade! Everyone on this board should donate to Wikileaks directly from their main bank account!

July 22, 2016 - 12:29

Chase Taylor

Keep an eye out for Deshundra Jefferson. I keep seeing her name pop up alot.
emergeamerica.org/people/deshundra-jefferson

July 22, 2016 - 12:29

Jackson Foster

Should we be using twitter, and trying to spread info about this?

July 22, 2016 - 12:30

Evan Scott

I'd rather donate to Tim Canova and get rid of DWS. The bitch must pay.

July 22, 2016 - 12:31

Justin James

Total psycho face, holy shit.

July 22, 2016 - 12:31

Logan Scott

I am on facebook.
I always seem to have an easier time with the normies on there than the #WokeWarrior crowd on twitter.

July 22, 2016 - 12:32

Anthony Myers

These media outlets were in direct communication with the DNC - even sending drafts for approval before publishing them. Just type "S a n d e r s" into the Wiileaks DNC search, and you'll immediately see WaPo, CNN pop up & references to editing Medium articles.

Also another email shows DWS losing her shit over Mika(Morning Joe) here
DWS telling her people to contact the President of MSNBC to try & force Mika to apologize.

July 22, 2016 - 12:32

Christian Smith

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/8139

From: Walker, Eric
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 10:03 AM
To: Pratt Wiley; Wilson, Erin; Alvillar, Raul
Cc: Patrice Taylor; Wei, Shu-Yen; CaucusGroup; Miranda, Luis; Jefferson, Deshundra; Lindsay Langholz; Dillon, Lauren
Subject: RE: Problem brewing in Rhode Island
I would like to be on this call, but first, I don't think we even need a statement. We just need something to cover ourselves. I think when we start getting inquiries, if we have a letter to the SOS that we can point to, it will show that we are engaged and that we don't just pipe up when it's a Republican administration closing poll locations. We can make the point to reporters individually off the record that it's not apples and oranges: Arizona more serious because the state was covered under VRA and has had a history of problems - Rhode Island doesn't have those same historical issues. Adding Lauren who mentioned this in the morning meeting.

From:[email protected]/* */
To: [email protected]/* */, [email protected]/* */, [email protected]/* */
Date: 2016-04-26 15:02
Subject: RE: Problem brewing in Rhode Island

No worries. To be clear - no inquiries yet, but RNC will be pushing it.

Pratt just swung by my desk - SOS ready to go on record with these points defending their approach, which is good.

I think that if DNC press office gets inquiries about hypocrisy between AZ / RI then we can direct them to RI SOS comment, and explain on background that it's not as dire as AZ and that RI doesn't have the same VRA baggage.

July 22, 2016 - 12:35

Adam Collins

I never use my fb, but I thought it might be good to share it there(I already shared on Twitter sock/troll account & it's been retweeted). But on fb, the older people will have a better chance at seeing it. We all know most don't keep up with this stuff, and will buy the MSM angle. Good to get to it before the retarded damage control starts.

July 22, 2016 - 12:35

Gavin Brown

Patience. Twitter is right now on fire about the RNC Convention and John Stewart, so the spread is happening slower than usual.

Give it a day and everyone will be talking about it.

July 22, 2016 - 12:36

Kayden Barnes

Why? polite sage

July 22, 2016 - 12:37

Hudson Sanchez

seconded

July 22, 2016 - 12:37

Ethan Cox

He pulled some stunt on the main stage by dressing up as that announcer guy from the hunger games shit, and shit talked them all

July 22, 2016 - 12:39

Noah Wilson

Hahahaha holy shit.

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/756573903993135104

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/12803

July 22, 2016 - 12:39

Cooper Foster

Why do Americans let themselves become this stupid for hope

July 22, 2016 - 12:40

Evan King

That's Stephen Colbert. I thought maybe Stewart was doing marketing for his new show or something.

July 22, 2016 - 12:40

Nicholas Wood

If you go on some of the B████ facebook groups, there are a lot of people hungry for information and feel left in the dark.
Most of them don't seem internet savvy enough to find it themselves.

July 22, 2016 - 12:41

Chase Brooks

...

July 22, 2016 - 12:41

Robert Scott

He was on the Late Show last night and blasted Fox News for hypocritically supporting Trump in his Daily Show style.

That was Colbert.

July 22, 2016 - 12:42

Ethan Brooks

Yall right Im dumb

July 22, 2016 - 12:43

Gabriel Mitchell

I can't wait to see Jon Oliver do apologetics for Hillary.

July 22, 2016 - 12:43

Cameron Bailey

American Democracy was always a mistake. It can only get worse

July 22, 2016 - 12:46

Justin White

donnabrazile.com/?page_id=131

Another person whose emails keep coming up, usually talking strategy, like: wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4219

Nothing juicy yet, though

July 22, 2016 - 12:47

Christopher Martin

Samantha Bee has been doing that nonstop on her show which apparently people watch

July 22, 2016 - 12:47

Joshua Miller

That would imply it ever was a democracy.

July 22, 2016 - 12:47

Mason Peterson

True

July 22, 2016 - 12:48

Julian Wood

Nigga you mean "fascist oligarchy"

July 22, 2016 - 12:48

Robert Hernandez

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13440

On May 7, 2016, at 3:21 PM, Manriquez, Pablo >> wrote: Hi Team, Apologies for delay in sending this out but I cannot login to [email protected]/* */> with either of the passwords I have on file for the account (Obama-Biden-2012 and obamain08). Quickest solution here is for me to blast from [email protected]/* */>? I know this runs against protocol but if [email protected]/* */> is out of commission again and I’m the press POC all weekend anyway…this would go a long way toward Making Saturday Great Again as your weekends faithful firewall from work shit like this. Let me know. Thanks!

>Apologies for delay in sending this out but I cannot login to [email protected]/* */> with either of the passwords I have on file for the account (Obama-Biden-2012 and obamain08).

What a bunch of fucking brain surgeons.

July 22, 2016 - 12:50

Sebastian Rodriguez

This. Help our senior citizens by allowing them to feel anger again.

July 22, 2016 - 12:50

Angel Gomez

Someone should just post these reddit threads for them. It's laid out pretty good there.
reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4u2khq/wikileaks_are_you_ready_for_hillary_we_begin_our/

reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4u3fw3/new_wikileaks_re_clinton_emails/

Someone with a FB account post those to the B████ groups.

July 22, 2016 - 12:53

Connor Williams

...

July 22, 2016 - 12:53

Daniel Powell

gizmodo.com/wikileaks-just-published-tons-of-personal-data-like-a-b-1784140603
archive.is/OhYTj
look at all this crying over wikileaks

July 22, 2016 - 12:54

Michael Russell

wew

July 22, 2016 - 12:55

Angel Martinez

what fucking monsters

July 22, 2016 - 12:56

William Morgan

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13828
Subject: RE: The Hill: S█████: I've lost because 'poor people don't vote'

July 22, 2016 - 13:00

Mason Wilson

When cornered: BULLSHIT

July 22, 2016 - 13:02

Jason Ross

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4643
From: MirandaL
To: PaustenbachM

July 22, 2016 - 13:06

Charles Ortiz

You people know Wikileaks sides with notorious Gamer Gator Milo Younoopolos, right? Why are you taking them seriously?

July 22, 2016 - 13:06

Jose Miller

I'll add that one to the ED article.

July 22, 2016 - 13:08

Jack Allen

I knew they were colluding for that bullshit.

July 22, 2016 - 13:10

Lincoln Gutierrez

Assange believes that everyone should say and know everything possible, even when it's not the best idea. I don't always agree with that stance but to suggest that he's secretly an alt-righter because he doesn't like even justified censorship is ridiculous.

July 22, 2016 - 13:10

Evan Martinez

????

July 22, 2016 - 13:11

Carter Wright

Why and how?
Either way, it doesn't matter.
We still get information out of it.

July 22, 2016 - 13:12

Wyatt James

doesn't matter if the documents are real

July 22, 2016 - 13:13

James Cook

Hillary Clinton is going to be Nixon 2: Corruption Boogaloo.

July 22, 2016 - 13:15

Kevin Peterson

Fuck off. Twitter banning people they disagree with is a problem.

July 22, 2016 - 13:15

Brody Reyes

It's also an example of private property NOT being the arbiter of freedom that ancaps love so much.

July 22, 2016 - 13:19

Jason Reed

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/5315
From: hrtsleeve
To: Miranda, Luis; Paustenbach, Mark; Banfill, Ryan

Subject: MSNBC story
This is a good story. Did we get them the info near the bottom?

On May 19, 2016, at 1:07 PM, Miranda, Luis >>

From: hrtsleeve
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 1:14 PM
To: Miranda, Luis
Cc: Paustenbach, Mark; Banfill, Ryan
Subject: Re: MSNBC story

>DWS

July 22, 2016 - 13:20

Joseph Bailey

From:MirandaL
To: hrtsleeve

Date: 2016-05-19 15:16 Subject: RE: MSNBC story

>The DNC Chair has repeatedly said on the air and otherwise that it’s not her job to tell either candidate to get out and has never called for anyone to get out of the race. She has talked in very positive termsdemocrats.org/Post/dnc-chair-statement-on-april-26-primary-results> about both of our candidatesdemocrats.org/Post/dnc-chair-statement-on-south-carolina-primary-results-feb-27> and the substantive campaigns they’ve rundemocrats.org/Post/dnc-chair-statement-on-new-hampshire-primary-results>. As for the stuff that Joe and Mika tried to rehash this morning about debates, the fact is our debates earned far better ratingshttps:[email protected]/* */[email protected]/* */-889d8ab42ca#.qepssg11f> overall this year than they did in past cycles. And as NBC knows all too well, when we were able to get both campaigns to agree, we added four.

>The single biggest factor determining the nominee (85%) is the participation of voters in primaries and caucuses. You can see a post we did here that lays out the facts on Super Delegateshttps:[email protected]/* */[email protected]/* */n079v7>. It also debunks the false myths about Iowa.

>rgj.com/story/news/politics/2016/05/17/ralston-reports-dems-need-unity-but-theyre-getting-mutiny-nevada-democratic-convention-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders/84521894/?mc_cid=6001cbd708&mc_eid=b3f6d44b0b

>And here’s what Politifact said: politifact.com/nevada/statements/2016/may/18/jeff-weaver/allegations-fraud-and-misconduct-nevada-democratic/ [Inline image 1]politifact.com/nevada/statements/2016/may/18/jeff-weaver/allegations-fraud-and-misconduct-nevada-democratic/>

>[SigDems]democrats.org/>Luis Miranda, Communications Director Democratic National Committee 202-863-8148 – [email protected]/* */> - @MiraLuisDCtwitter.com/MiraLuisDC>

July 22, 2016 - 13:20

Carter Powell

It blows my mind how quickly spergs on this board jumped on the "he deserved it" train. That's like the least important aspect of what happened.

July 22, 2016 - 13:21

Aaron Jones

fortune.com/2016/07/21/bernie-sanders-delegates-meeting/

Comrade [REDACTED]… What are you up to….?

July 22, 2016 - 13:23

Cameron Gutierrez

From:hrtsleeve
To: MirandaL
Date: 2016-05-19 16:47 Subject: Re: MSNBC story

July 22, 2016 - 13:24

Hunter Rodriguez

I wouldn't say he deserved it, although he is a hypocrite. I would be more willing to say: I told ya so. There's going to be allot more of that saying soon.

July 22, 2016 - 13:24

Angel Sullivan

I don't really think those are comparable because the collapse of slavery in the United States didn't and couldn't have caused a disruption in global markets and an aggravated recession that would impact the majority of the global working class. Moreover, the shift to industrialization was the implementation of technology which improved economic efficiency and increased production; that is not comparable to trade relations, especially contemporary globalized trade relations such as PNTR with China.

Regardless of the "parasitic" and "unsustainable" nature of PNTR with China, its wholesale repeal would just as readily threaten to cause an economic collapse, if not guarantee it. It would be more prudent, in my opinion, to attempt to renegotiate the terms of PNTR with China. It's simply no longer possible for the United States to be a hub of production; it's already a "matured economy" and no longer provides a suitable location as a core of the capitalist world-system. Trying to flail and fight this shift is only going to damage the United States and the global working class while failing to actually prevent the inevitable changes capitalism is currently undergoing.

I just don't see a feasible and beneficial path for ending PNTR with China, much less ending the interdependent trade relations we currently have with China. This is an economic dance between two global superpowers and it won't end until the music stops playing, and that music is capitalism.

Care to provide proof?

Twitter banned Milo for clearly violating the Twitter terms of service by inciting harassment on multiple occasions. If Twitter was actually censoring people "they disagree with", there wouldn't be such a strong presence of literal fascists, white nationalists, and alt-right reactionaries on Twitter. Or are you saying that Twitter "agrees" with those groups? No, Twitter is a corporation and they make decisions based on what is best for their corporation and its profits. Agreeing or disagreeing with the politics of a given user is irrelevant; what matters is whether the terms of service are being upheld.

July 22, 2016 - 13:25

Joseph Sanders

I'll post this too:

youtube.com/watch?v=CjUfJj2id3E

July 22, 2016 - 13:28

Alexander Cox

Politely request the Milo topic to go to Holla Forums or make your own thread here if it's worth it.

We wikileaks now

July 22, 2016 - 13:28

Kayden Allen

You may not say that, but there are a lot of (probably ex-liberal) kiddies who see he got banned and start celebrating. He's definitely a hypocrite though.

I keep seeing this claim but I've yet to see anything to back it up. Also
poo poo pee pee hands off my private property

July 22, 2016 - 13:28

Joseph Jackson

observer.com/2016/07/wikileaks-proves-primary-was-rigged-dnc-undermined-democracy/
Wikileaks Proves Primary Was Rigged: DNC Undermined Democracy
I can't wait for our fair and democratic system of government to correct this problem and punish the clinton team for misbehavior

July 22, 2016 - 13:29

Jackson King

got it fam
polite sage

Milo thread this way

July 22, 2016 - 13:30

Adam Edwards

Watch this:

July 22, 2016 - 13:31

Bentley Barnes

lmao, good title

July 22, 2016 - 13:32

Brandon Ortiz

Thread's been there a while m8.

July 22, 2016 - 13:33

Jacob Cook

Thanks, I made that thread. Sadly, it didn't go like I expected.

July 22, 2016 - 13:35

Brody Powell

This actually is an interesting discussion on its own though. Can twitter ever become something that the government has an obligation to uphold freedom of speech for? Can any public internet forum?

July 22, 2016 - 13:35

Daniel Allen

He's revealing his plans for the impending purge.

July 22, 2016 - 13:38

Adam Scott

Not by US law, because muh private property.

July 22, 2016 - 13:39

Lincoln Garcia

I want to believe.

Still. The ubiquity of these services grows everyday. The internet is considered more or less a service and resource akin to water. I wonder…

July 22, 2016 - 13:42

Ethan Hernandez

barf

July 22, 2016 - 13:44

Jeremiah Miller

The UN classifies internet access as a human rights. Net neutrality sets a precedent in the US that internet is a utility.

July 22, 2016 - 13:45

Thomas Gomez

Then do a fucking Google search rather than expecting people to spoonfeed it to you. Anyway, there's no reason to think that it isn't true, especially since that was the official statement by Twitter. It's not in Twitter's interest to ban users, especially big users like Milo, because those users help keep the site active and keep the profits flowing. The only reason Twitter would act would be if the user posed a threat to the long-term profits of the enterprise. Violating the terms of service, whose existence is to ensure the sustainability of the userbase and thus their profits, threatens those interests. If Milo just engaged in his normal alt-right house faggotry and didn't violate the terms of service, he wouldn't have been banned no matter how egregious his commentary got.

Welcome to capitalism. It's childish to ignore how capitalism works just because you disagree with it. You might not like those terms of service, but that was the basis for the indefinite suspension, not whatever anthropomorphized beliefs and feelings you have assigned to Twitter.

If you want to bicker about this non-news, feel free to go to .

July 22, 2016 - 13:45

Jaxson Johnson

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_Internet_access#Ensuring_that_access_is_broadly_available_and.2For_preventing_unreasonable_restrictions

July 22, 2016 - 13:46

Parker Thompson

...

July 22, 2016 - 13:48

Thomas Clark

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/5614

"OFF THE RECORD … RE: can you send me the letter S█████ sent the DNC?"

July 22, 2016 - 13:48

Joshua Jones

done
got 25 shares already

July 22, 2016 - 13:52

Jack Bell

Don't do this. You are going to get people shadowbanned. Reddit shadowbans people who follow direct links from other sites and then vote on content.

July 22, 2016 - 13:53

Jaxson White

I've never heard of this. I say he should be fine. It's rare mods get off their asses on reddit, anyway.

July 22, 2016 - 13:55

Jackson Myers

Awesome result, thanks user

July 22, 2016 - 13:56

Nicholas Wilson

They won't punish it, but I think we can surmise what the Democrats are going to do about this.

The first move would be begging for forgiveness by promising extensive reforms. Watch as those primary issues suddenly get solved fairly quickly and the Democratic platform gets even more progressive. We might even see crocodile tears from Hillary at convention, who knows. The next would be sacrificing DWS. This has been discussed before, but since she's in a lot of these e-mails, it would be best if she disappeared before she became an issue in the general election.

All in all, we're going to get a lot of "we fucked up but we're sorry" from them(if they're smart), but it's likely going to cost them a big chunk of congress.

I think the surest thing we can take from this is that B████ going to get a fuck ton stronger since he was RIGHT. The course for the movement is clear. The targets are fixed. All he needs to do is authorize the purge.

July 22, 2016 - 13:56

Gabriel Peterson

My question is, if Wikileaks has the ability to give vital information about the farce of democracy in America, why not do it to both parties? I mean to say this is only Clinton is to be naive to a fault, and people honestly believe Clinton is the only perpetrator of this kind of shit already.

It smells of a kind of agenda, but nonetheless the information about liberals is welcomed, if not already known.

July 22, 2016 - 13:57

Evan Thompson

It's a bot that does it.

July 22, 2016 - 13:58

Henry Wright

Because they only got a leak from the DNC. Surely you're just trolling and not really this stupid. "Leaks" is in the fucking name.

July 22, 2016 - 14:00

Ryder Williams

Thanks for the link it was pretty clarifying and I am honestly pleasantly surprised by a decent policy for once. But yeah I doesn't look like the gubment' is going to step in anytime soon to provide support for a platform themselves. Which is probably a good thing. Anonymity is a powerful tool for constructive discussion.

Tell me more about the purge comrade

July 22, 2016 - 14:00

Jeremiah Rivera

lolno

They're going to double down on the B████Bros narrative and claim that the nasty Brocialists doxxed and harrassed poor public servants.

July 22, 2016 - 14:01

Eli Thomas

I find this suspicious. It's not like Trump's campaign is entirely competent at all, surely there's loose threads. And considering the speech writer, people who within it who have become disillusioned.

I find it underwhelming that they don't have the talent to excavate only one party.

Yes that's exactly my point.

July 22, 2016 - 14:02

Grayson Lewis

dingdingdingding!

They'll go with their M.O.

July 22, 2016 - 14:02

Carter Cruz

I watched the net neutrality hearing live. TBH the Democrats were surprisingly on point about it. Republicans were full on porky shills though. I guess there was a strong enough campaign that they knew better than to fuck the people on the issue.

July 22, 2016 - 14:03

Zachary Russell

The DNC leaks happened because Guccifer 2.0 hacked the DNC server. Probably because they reduced the security for Hillary's emails.

That's not how wikileaks works. For fuck's sake, "wiki" is in the name too.

July 22, 2016 - 14:05

Michael Jones

I know exactly what it is, the people within it should have the talent to find the "alternative" party's information. You're agreeing with me by saying they are unable. The difference is I find their collective inability suspicious.

July 22, 2016 - 14:06

William Brown

They've already started doing just that:

July 22, 2016 - 14:06

Dominic Wright

That's a great strategy if they really want to lose the election.

Remember, they still need Sanderistas and independents to vote for Hillary in order to beat Trump. That's why they were going through all the motions to inspire party unity, like . The Democrats might as well concede to the Republicans if they go around blaming a large amount of progressive for their own corruption.

July 22, 2016 - 14:12

Brayden Perez

literally, where?

July 22, 2016 - 14:13

Christian Jenkins

...

July 22, 2016 - 14:14

Jayden Thomas

Here are their options
They are porkies. They will go with option 2.

July 22, 2016 - 14:15

Wyatt Robinson

You've been watching so far, right?

July 22, 2016 - 14:16

Adrian Phillips

I never gave up on him fam

July 22, 2016 - 14:22

Charles Barnes

Yeah, going with B████ right now would seem like a smart decision since you now have mountains of e-mails confirming that you colluded against him. Going with Hillary right now would be telling MILLIONS of young voters, the very future of the party, to fuck off.

In the end though, we're probably going to see a lot of congressional democrats lose their positions over this, either through B████crats, Republicans, or the DNC trying to save their own ass.

That's why I included "(if they were smart)". Any stance other than humility would be suicide right now.

July 22, 2016 - 14:24

Jacob Jones

This election is 2000 on steroids. Do you really think the ruling class wants Hillary to win at this point? Maybe Hillary herself does, out of sheer pride or ambition or just to spite Bill, but a Hillary Presidency would highlight the contradictions of capitalism far more than a Trump Presidency would.

July 22, 2016 - 14:26

Dominic Bailey

How class-conscious is the ruling class though, honestly? How many of them understand that capitalism has contradictions?

July 22, 2016 - 14:27

Cameron Watson

Hillary seems to be like a cancerous tumor of political clout that the oligarchs are supporting out of necessity rather than real desire.

July 22, 2016 - 14:30

Adrian Watson

The Kochs certainly do, they're punishing people for attending and agreeing by not legally bribing them. They're not minor players, they've been game players as far back as we've lived. They're part of the Cato and Aspen Institutes.

July 22, 2016 - 14:30

Parker Bennett

This tbh. She could probably have a lot of them assassinated if she wanted to.

July 22, 2016 - 14:31

Adrian Russell

there are maybe only 2 options for them 1: that they are massive bumbling idiots who are only able to string the carcass of capitalism along by pure luck or 2: that they are completely aware of how contradictory it is and are able to control it to keep it going along.

July 22, 2016 - 14:31

Cameron Morris

They probably don't view it in such terms, but I imagine at least some of them are aware that the left is the greatest threat to neoliberalism and want to keep it tapped down.

Not surprising, Clinton is probably slightly more propertarian than Trump.

July 22, 2016 - 14:38

Camden Johnson

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/756601388440940544

"#DNCLeaks: Washington Post & DNC joint unlisted fundraising party"

July 22, 2016 - 14:41

Adrian Taylor

THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

July 22, 2016 - 14:44

Owen Howard

THEY WONT

NOT THIS TIME

July 22, 2016 - 14:45

Jaxson Bennett

I WARNED YOU ABOUT INDICTMENTS BRO

I TOLD YOU DOG

July 22, 2016 - 14:46

Dylan Morales

The wikileaks page is fucking brutal.

July 22, 2016 - 14:54

Jayden Gonzalez

I wish I could be a fly on the wall for

A COUP!?

July 22, 2016 - 14:54

Noah Young

This. Milo isn't a hypocrite at all, his agenda is to either destroy dens of inequity like Twatter, or force them to admit "We are officially an SJW platform, rightist behavior is explicitly forbidden, failure to kowtow when virtue signaled is punishable by gelding" and reap the consequences. Such places only exist because they pretend to be neutral, the sooner that façade is broken, the better, and Milo is the best man for the job so far (though I'd prefer Sam Hyde on pure skill of technique).

Why not? What do you think would happen if capitalists were completely blocked from access to their supply of low-wage foreign corpses for their meatgrinder, would American industry simply refuse to hire anyone and magically grind to a halt, or would there be a massive economic boom? Remember America used to be a high-trade, high-immigration robber barony before, but then FDR instituted exactly the policies I'm suggesting, against exactly the same naysaying, AND IT WORKED.

We did it before, and we can do it again.

No it isn't, it's 1st-world blood being drained out through taps constructed of 3rd-world flesh into the gullet of vampires, it serves no other purpose.

Not that you aren't trolling, but remember all those stories about the Republicans sabotaging Trump's campaign and rigging their own primary against him? It's hardly obscure.

Yup, bipartisan porky priorities in strict order are 1# defeat S█████ #2 defeat Trump 3# defeat Hillary. Forced into a binary choice between the first two, Trump wins erryday allday.

July 22, 2016 - 14:55

Juan Perry

IM SORRY THAT I EVER DOUBTED YOU

July 22, 2016 - 14:58

James Richardson

Are you trying to argue that you would vote for Trump? What? The classic "B-B-B-B-but Hillary is more badder!" argument?

Voting for Hillary and voting for Trump might as well be voting for either at the same, a vote for Trump is the same as a vote for Hillary, it doesn't matter. You won't find a fixed system under Trump, nor will he help either.

Trusting in good faith this man and this woman want the power of the executive branch and are willing to take major campaign contributions for favors, is enough to vote for neither; under your own logic voting itself in American state democracy is worth it.

July 22, 2016 - 14:58

Dylan Howard

Maybe in fucking fantasyland.

For there to be an economic boom there has to be capital in the economy for production industries to capture, but there isn't. No one is buying and no one can buy. It's so bad that companies are loaning billions of dollars to governments at negative interest rates because there is literally nowhere to expand to or invest in.

July 22, 2016 - 14:59

Samuel Ramirez

I meaaaaan… The porkies might back another candidate and bleed Trump and Hillary out of votes too. Hillary's support is establishment not porkies.

July 22, 2016 - 14:59

Angel Martinez

LMAOOO IT WAS FUCKING RIGGED HOLY SHIT

July 22, 2016 - 15:01

Henry Myers

...

July 22, 2016 - 15:02

Bentley Ortiz

They trade off each other like they're playing a game. Politicians become lobbyists, lobbyists become politicians.

July 22, 2016 - 15:03

Luis Ward

There is no difference. Have you never heard of the revolving door?

July 22, 2016 - 15:04

Elijah Fisher

Whoops. meant for

July 22, 2016 - 15:04

Ryan Watson

The establish is run by the porkies you fool

July 22, 2016 - 15:04

Josiah Cooper

I perceive a very real difference.
And you can see it with Trump. The Koch brothers pulled funding from all of their puppets for attanding the RNC. Well I wonder what the Koch brothers will do with all that capital? Support Hillary?
Doubtful.

July 22, 2016 - 15:07

Zachary Myers

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/14104
Talking about how to spin the convention in Nevada.

July 22, 2016 - 15:15

Isaiah White

Wow, yeah, I'm sure the greatest economic depression in history combined with a global political and military fascist assault against democracy is NOTHING compared to the "challenges" we're facing today. Grow up.

God, I hope S█████ comes to his senses and campaigns through Stein/write-ins/whatever if the Republicans split their vote in significant numbers.

July 22, 2016 - 15:15

Caleb Wright

Are you implying Trump isn't another kind of person who supports the capitalist class? Are you insane?

He's taking campaign contributions from donors, some of which also gave to Jeb Bush and Ted Cruz, he has delegates out the ass.

Trump is "anti-establishment"? What a joke.

I never suggested any of this?

July 22, 2016 - 15:17

William Hernandez

I'm not psychic but I'm pretty sure at this point he's trying to discredit the Democratic party as thoroughly as humanly possible. My prediction is he will still be telling them they should nominate him, which they should but they won't. It'll be incredibly eye-opening to the American people about where the party really stands/stood. It's likely to spark interest in a new party. He has the support and funds for it too. Imagine if he rode this momentum and spent the rest of the campaign cycle getting tons of B████crats into Congress.

July 22, 2016 - 15:22

Dylan Ortiz

VERSION 1: MEASURED
DNC Statement on Nevada Democratic Party Letter

VERSION 2: FORTHRIGHT AND THOUGHTFUL

July 22, 2016 - 15:22

Charles Garcia

You're retarded.

July 22, 2016 - 15:23

Aaron Powell

...

July 22, 2016 - 15:25

Logan Sanchez

He already announced plans do that after the convention. He wants to keep his movement growing.

July 22, 2016 - 15:26

Jayden Davis

Do you think Barnie knew about these emails before the leak

July 22, 2016 - 15:26

Eli Morales

With any luck burnie and wikileaks are in collusion

July 22, 2016 - 15:27

Nicholas Green

Sorry, middle reply in was meant for

I'm saying Trump (although that is may mostly be "Trump" the image rather than his how actual administration would turn out) is a loose cannon that has ripped apart post-Reagan partisan consensus/suppression of consensus on issues like trade, social programs, religion, immigration, and war.

I dunno, that seems pretty retarded to me.

July 22, 2016 - 15:27

Ryder Jones

Spread this shit.

July 22, 2016 - 15:27

Gabriel Ramirez

He's been in politics a long time, I assume he knew all this shady shit was going on. He actually pressed lawsuits against the DNC, etc, over some of the content/issues in those emails.

July 22, 2016 - 15:28

Christian Rivera

I just heard some goon on MSNBC claim the DNC leaks were done by the Russians to make Trump win/Clinton lose therefore the leaks are bad. He also never addressed the actual substance of the leaks and why they're actually so troubling.

July 22, 2016 - 15:29

Logan Cruz

He didn't do that because he believed in what he was saying. He did that to get where he is now. And he did that because its profitable.

July 22, 2016 - 15:30

Camden Foster

What I really like about these emails is knowing how genuinely angry and pissed off they were at us the entire time.

July 22, 2016 - 15:30

Logan Hughes

If a GOP leak led to public knowledge of a bunch of stupid shit they said and conservatives decided to blame Russians, Dems and the liberal media would mock them for an entire year.

July 22, 2016 - 15:32

Kevin Hill

You have more experience being a retard than me so

July 22, 2016 - 15:32

Dylan Richardson

And now they're the "conspiracy nuts" when they try to deny it.

This leak is extremely satisfying. Thank you, Ass-ange.

July 22, 2016 - 15:32

Michael Stewart

And they still are.

I'm now 100% certain they would rather see their party go down in flames than move even one inch to the left.

July 22, 2016 - 15:33

Joshua Price

Is it just me or are they seriously asking if they should deliberately libel the S█████ campaign?

July 22, 2016 - 15:35

Lucas Diaz

...

July 22, 2016 - 15:35

Hunter Gonzalez

Like Hitchens said, they'd rather lose elections than lose control of the party.

July 22, 2016 - 15:35

Gavin Young

With this leak it looks like both will happen.

July 22, 2016 - 15:36

Adrian Anderson

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/756618117875376129

"Google now listing Wikileaks as a 'dangerous' site"

google.com/transparencyreport/safebrowsing/diagnostic/?hl=en#url=wikileaks.org

July 22, 2016 - 15:38

Ian Mitchell

True. S█████ has the future of the party in his hands now. Nothing they do will ever take it away from him.

July 22, 2016 - 15:39

Joshua Bailey

DWS damage control I think
wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13269
Subject: VERY CONCERNED!!!!
From: Tracie Pough

From: Miranda, Luis

thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/280370-dnc-chair-responds-to-jeff-weavers-throwing-shade-remark

On May 18, 2016, at 2:24 PM, Miranda, Luis >> wrote:

From:PoughT

July 22, 2016 - 15:42

Wyatt Green

...

July 22, 2016 - 15:42

Gavin Price

Stewart Lee has let himself go.

July 22, 2016 - 15:46

Aaron Myers

...

July 22, 2016 - 15:46

Jeremiah Moore

It's a shame that cunt isn't up for re-election until 2020.

July 22, 2016 - 15:48

Grayson Howard

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/756619681251942400

"#DNCLeaks: Google head @EricSchmidt "maxed" out in donations to Dems NRSC & DSCC"

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/17405

July 22, 2016 - 15:53

Daniel Stewart

Gary Johnson Taking the Same Support from Clinton as Trump

Source: reason.com/blog/2016/06/16/gary-johnson-taking-the-same-support-fro
Archive: archive.is/vhfQl

Fuck them indeed, but this article seems to check out.

It seems that both Jill Stein and Gary Johnson are by themselves poaching votes from the Democratic and Republicans equally. If this trend holds, it means the whole "spoiler" arguments are basically bunk this election and all of us should be encouraging as many people as we can to vote for either Jill Stein or Gary Johnson.

July 22, 2016 - 16:04

Caleb Johnson

I missed, why are we encouraging people to vote for Gary Johnson again?

July 22, 2016 - 16:08

William Green

Get ready for libs downplaying the leaks by going

July 22, 2016 - 16:10

Charles Brown

They'll be the ones surprised when Trump becomes president.

July 22, 2016 - 16:12

Jason Evans

These leaks must be painting very clear lines for the party activists who are bothering to read them.

July 22, 2016 - 16:15

Austin Sullivan

1. It weakens the corrupt party duopoly in the United States.

2. It helps the "Libertarian" Party receive federal funding and recognition as an official third party, which helps #1.

3. It siphons votes away from Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, especially the latter, which helps #1 and #2.

4. It bolsters friendly relations between Greens and "Libertarians", which helps the Greens and facilitates #1–3.

5. So long as Gary Johnson's poll numbers remain high, it provides cover for Jill Stein by providing a secondary counterargument against "spoiler" concerns, namely that we aren't really spoiling anything so long as our polling is below or equal to Gary Johnson's. We can, of course, abandon this talking point if Jill Stein surpasses Gary Johnson.

July 22, 2016 - 16:17

Nicholas Sullivan

That seems fair. I was just looking at so of his views on issues and a sizable amount of it looks undesirable.

July 22, 2016 - 16:21

Joseph White

The if the worse of the two parties were full capitalism instead of just conservative it would be much easier to oppose capitalism. As it stands now the D and R parties are much more mixed on which has the less revolutionary position.
Consider guns or trade for instance.

July 22, 2016 - 16:22

Ryan Cox

Tbh*
Ducking auto correct

July 22, 2016 - 16:24

Brandon Gomez

I don't support him either. Gary Johnson and the entire "Libertarian" Party are useful idiots for the bourgeoisie who are so intoxicated by their ideology that they fail to see that they're unwittingly betraying their own class by voting for policies that directly benefit the bourgeoisie. Because they're useful idiots, though, we can use them as a means of undermining Trump (and, to a marginally lesser extent, Clinton) and to bolster the Green Party, albeit indirectly.

If Johnson is allowed into the debates after reaching 15%, he may even advocate that Stein is also included since the Greens and "Libertarians" have worked together in the past to try and combat these exclusionary policies which inhibit third parties. Even if he doesn't, though, it may strengthen the Green case for demanding that Stein is also included, especially if some in the Democratic establishment are stupid enough to believe letting in Stein will help offset Johnson's inclusion.

July 22, 2016 - 16:30

Oliver Cook

They're already saying Wiki-leaks is supporting Trump.

July 22, 2016 - 16:34

Asher Lewis

there aren't enough gulags in the world

July 22, 2016 - 16:35

Jack Russell

Even though Wikileaks has almost exclusively used the #Feelthebern tag.

They're fucking stupid.

July 22, 2016 - 16:56

Brody Price

The Party for Socialism and Liberation follows me on twitter now… Are they legit? Their website makes them look alright for the most part but they want open borders and full rights for immigrants. Also the wage gap thing.

July 22, 2016 - 16:56

Jayden Clark

how is this a bad thing?

July 22, 2016 - 17:02

Caleb Gonzalez

If you think these are somehow bad you probably don't belong here.

July 22, 2016 - 17:03

Mason Lewis

Everybody posts the first part of this e-mail, but forgets the even more damning second part.

These are the same idiots that said Hillary is the only one who can beat Trump.

She only has a 2.5 % lead on him in the polls. 2.5%!

July 22, 2016 - 17:04

Gavin Parker

Why the hell they following you on Twitter

July 22, 2016 - 17:06

Benjamin Lewis

Because it's combined with socialist policies like free health care and $20 minimum wage. Open borders comes with communism, not when your neighbors are still capitalist.

Wage gap is nonsense. The real problem is wages. See above for other point.

I don't know. I guess they saw me tweeting about the leak.

July 22, 2016 - 17:10

Thomas Barnes

is it La riva 4 president cause they followed me aswell

July 22, 2016 - 17:11

Anthony Taylor

Yup

July 22, 2016 - 17:11

Joseph Fisher

So no appeasing the B████ people

July 22, 2016 - 17:12

Jeremiah Brooks

have you followed wikileaks, greenpartyus, or dr jill stein recently?

July 22, 2016 - 17:14

Andrew Stewart

All of them. I just made the account.

July 22, 2016 - 17:15

Hunter Anderson

Probably the former, actually. The power vacuum that the corporations would leave once they inverted their way the fuck out, along with the massive capital flight that would ensue, would cripple the U.S. economy and potentially plunge the global economy into a recession if not a depression. Afterward, a large boom might occur as the economy rebounds, but that's just boom-bust cycling at work.

The United States still had a labor shortage and modern globalization was not possible at the time. Now, there is no incentive for a large multinational corporation to manufacture in the United States. They can supervise their workers from tens of thousands of miles away and ship goods across the world for a much, much better profit than would paying the high wages in the United States entail. That's precisely the reason why manufacturing vacated the United States in the 1970s at the advent of modern telecommunication and transportation: it was wildly more profitable to ship jobs overseas.

During the Great Depression, this was not possible. The boom after the Great Depression was the result of massive federal spending, a wartime economy as a result of the highly convenient World War II, and the inability of corporations in the United States to go anywhere else without potentially risking their entire enterprise for marginally better profits (if any). None of those conditions exist now. Unless you intend on proposing we implement Green New Deal coupled with nationalization of many industries and converting them into syndicated cooperatives, and to initiate a third world war with the Russian Federation via NATO, you're probably not going to have even comparably similar conditions to what occurred after the Great Depression. And as for that proposal, the chances of that happening is asymptote.

And there's no serious way of stopping it without a literal communist revolution (or Lenin-esque revolution) in the United States. The United States depends on Chinese manufacturing and credit to survive, whereas China depends on the United States' consumption and borrowing to survive. There is no breaking this interdependent relationship. The United States is now China's hinterland, but China needs our decaying empire to survive and the rest of the world depends on both of us—and the dance we do—to ensure the global economy still functions. If that relationship is severed, the global economy might completely collapse and that is the last thing we need right now.

As much as you might hate it, this trend of China leeching power from the United States is an irreversible shift in the capitalist world-system. Capitalism is dying and we have reached perhaps the final stage of its life: the world-system shift. Whereas the United States, western Europe, and Japan have historically been the core of the capitalist world-system—the locus of all production, with the rest of the world as its hinterland—globalization and recent technological developments in modern telecommunications and transportation have provided capitalists with a unique opportunity: abandon the old core and shift to growing economies in the hinterlands, where wages are low and profits hit record levels. The new core is now (for the most part) China, Brazil, and India. Like globalization and those technological developments, this trend is irreversible. Capitalism has abandoned the United States and all that is left is for the U.S. empire is to rot until we bury the remains.

There is one upside to this, though: because the United States is now waning and becoming a part of the global hinterlands, revolution is now possible. Revolution seldom occurs in the core of a world-system, whereas it frequently happens in its periphery. The Soviet Union, Cuba, China, and elsewhere are all proof of that. Revolutions only occur when the core is decaying or, in the case of our current conditions, shifting. We are in the unique position of being both the decadent old core and, increasingly, the periphery of the new core. The conditions for revolution are increasing and it is only through that revolution that we can seriously address the trade relations we have with China and elsewhere.

July 22, 2016 - 17:15

Charles Carter

'The illusion of choice.

Fair enough.

July 22, 2016 - 17:17

Caleb Powell

Jesus christ fuck off to another thread already.

July 22, 2016 - 17:17

Kevin Butler

Kaine confirmed VP pick.

July 22, 2016 - 17:17

Justin Wilson

I think they are just blanket following anyone who follows one of those accounts i dont know which though

July 22, 2016 - 17:17

Thomas Rodriguez

America needs gulags now more than ever

July 22, 2016 - 17:18

Cooper Russell

...

July 22, 2016 - 17:21

Nathaniel Smith

I'm prepared for a Trump presidency.

Are you?

July 22, 2016 - 17:21

Noah Long

Is

your post?

July 22, 2016 - 17:22

Lucas White

Could be. Seems like wiki leaks would be the one to go with. Kind of weird tbh.

July 22, 2016 - 17:22

Aaron Robinson

DWS Remarks for DNCC Exec Committee Reception

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4900

lol they're calling Trump "Dangerous Donald."

July 22, 2016 - 17:22

Charles Wilson

Trump absolutely stumped himself last night with his horrible speech.

I am ready for the Clinton Administration to finally open the borders and prepare America for global communism.

July 22, 2016 - 17:23

Adrian Allen

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/10397

July 22, 2016 - 17:26

Brandon Adams

This is some of the most tame boring inoffensive shit from that though. Wow people in media work phrases, shocking.

July 22, 2016 - 17:27

Joseph Lee

The nicknames are supposed to be embarrassing, not make them sound cool.

July 22, 2016 - 17:29

Jordan Morales

Yes.

July 22, 2016 - 17:31

Jordan James

Clinton will ratify the TPP. Trump will refuse it.

A vote for Clinton, or abstention, is a vote for the TPP. If you don't vote Trump to stop the TPP, you have no right to call yourself a leftist.

July 22, 2016 - 17:33

Thomas Gutierrez

Trump will vote for TPP and will not follow through on any of his campaign promises.

Likewise, nobody here should vote. If you think your vote matters, you're too liberal to be here.

July 22, 2016 - 17:35

Zachary Harris

But in all seriousness you're delusional if you think Trump will stop the TPP

July 22, 2016 - 17:35

Aaron Cook

"Don", maybe, but Donald? Tell me some part of your brain doesn't still link that name to a hair-triggered cartoon duck.

July 22, 2016 - 17:36

Levi Ward

Trump will build a wall

Global Communism cannot exist without open borders

July 22, 2016 - 17:37

Noah Davis

Ok then. Let globalism sink its fangs deeper into America.

July 22, 2016 - 17:37

Hunter Powell

Jill Stein has been on fire lately

July 22, 2016 - 17:37

Adam Fisher

Open borders render the working class powerless against the (((rootless capitalist elite))).

July 22, 2016 - 17:38

Eli Edwards

Donald "bomb the middle east to glass" Trump is globalism, you fucking imbecile. Are you really this naive, is this your first election?

July 22, 2016 - 17:38

Carson Nelson

I sure hope you meant to tell people to vote for a third party and vote for the leftmost down-ballot candidates.

July 22, 2016 - 17:39

Hunter Gray

The jews are the only ones who can save us from the porkies.

Truly they are our greatest allies.

July 22, 2016 - 17:40

Kevin Kelly

Third party might get support but it will never win. Even if it becomes a major party, the liberal reformation state socialism you want will still never happen.

Your votes don't matter. Even if they did, you're probably influenced to vote against your own interests.

July 22, 2016 - 17:40

Michael Green

Go shill for Trump somewhere else you fool.

Trump doesn't give a shit about the TPP or the working class of any race in general. He'll take one look at it, maybe get his palm greased, maybe make some cursory changes, but he'll ultimately declare the TPP "a great deal. It's great, best deal I'll ever seen" and sign it and your life away. All the while you'll be slobbering all over his knob because he saved you from the (((globalists)))

July 22, 2016 - 17:41

Josiah James

You're making a lot of assumptions friend. Voting third party is a protest vote so people will see higher dissatisfaction. I like how you ignored the part about down-ballot candidates too.

July 22, 2016 - 17:43

Daniel Thomas

but… muh goblins

July 22, 2016 - 17:43

Gabriel Kelly

The more I visit this board the more it seems like you faggots are basically shills for international capitalism. And to be honest, I doubt any of you have blue collar jobs… or jobs at all.

July 22, 2016 - 17:44

Asher Torres

It's history

They won't give a solid fuck.

What would be the point of going outside to vote at that point

July 22, 2016 - 17:44

Landon Cooper

Corrections: Revolution is now feasible and revolution only occurs in the core when the core is decaying or shifting.

Eat a bullet. This discussion is relevant to U.S. politics. Anyway, this thread is cycling, so it's no going anywhere anytime soon. You can continue circlejerking about the #DNCleaks without me preventing it from occurring. If anything, you should be glad I'm bumping the thread.

Lol, kill yourself, Holla Forums.

July 22, 2016 - 17:44

Luke Ramirez

Probably the most cringe worthy shit I've seen.

July 22, 2016 - 17:46

Christopher Lee

Nice shitposting.

RNC platform be like "naw man, we can't rush it." Not so much 'we gunna kill it : )'. It's better to vore third party/vote in the congressional elections.

It's an anfem poster, what do you expect?

July 22, 2016 - 17:47

Jacob Richardson

It's really amazing how the DNC utterly destroyed Obama's constituency in one election season.

We're living in historic times, my friends. Many great songs, movies, and books will be written in response to this election and the presidency that follows.

July 22, 2016 - 17:47

Jayden Clark

THE HIBERNIAN CONSPIRACY STRIKES AGAIN

July 22, 2016 - 17:48

Isaiah Sanchez

I never said anything about borders.

Very rude.

July 22, 2016 - 17:48

John Taylor

You realized based marx was a jew?

You realize based B████ is a jew?

Jews are based and the savior of humanity.

July 22, 2016 - 17:48

Cooper Evans

thanks for shitting up the thread la

your da probably sells anne summers

July 22, 2016 - 17:49

Tyler Thomas

THEY CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS

July 22, 2016 - 17:50

Cameron Peterson

Less, after this.

July 22, 2016 - 17:50

Charles Powell

But that risks a Hillary victory. Look, I'm not saying Trump is good. I'm saying the alternative is far worse

Feder wasn't a jew. Useful Idiot wasn't a jew. Kikes shill for globalism; successful socialism must be national.

July 22, 2016 - 17:50

William Gomez

They both suck shit stop trying to push this. Trump won't follow through on about 90% of the bullshit he's promised. You're naive to think so. He can't do half this shit without the government shutting down in protest again.

Wow beautiful reasoning, Trump supporters are so intellectual. It's refreshing as getting your face soaked in battery acid.

July 22, 2016 - 17:52

Adrian Edwards

Globalism is a means to an end.

Once all races have been eliminated through irrelevant shiting and religions have been abolished there will be nothing to prevent a real revolution.

Race and religion are the most dangerous things to our species and must be eliminated.

July 22, 2016 - 17:52

Ayden Hall

If Trump did even 5% of what he claims he would have done more than any president since based Nixon

July 22, 2016 - 17:53

Lincoln Robinson

Wow Nixon. What an ideal to strive for.

July 22, 2016 - 17:54

Gabriel Perez

If you actually believe the jewish propaganda that Nixon was anything but a good president you should kill yourself.

July 22, 2016 - 17:56

Nathan Foster

Of course voting generally doesn't matter, and arguably doesn't even count, but it's nevertheless worthwhile to do even if it's nothing more than a symbolic gesture with virtually no chance of impacting the results. Civic and democratic engagement is a good ritual to practice, since it helps one develop a commitment to the democratic process. The same is true with engaging in town halls and municipal meetings.

It's more useful to vote for Jill Stein and the most leftist downballot candidates, as said. Simply staying home and pouting about the illusory state of our democracy accomplishes even less than the symbolic exercise of voting.

I seriously doubt anyone, especially here, is under the illusion that the likes of Jill Stein or some other third party can win the general election this year. That isn't the only possible goal, however, and it demonstrates a profound naïveté to believe it is. Voting for Jill Stein (or Gary Johnson) can also potentially help the Green Party receive federal funding as an official third party at 5% and even join in the general election debates at 15%. It also raises consciousness by showing how third parties like the Green Party is growing in the United States, which signals to the public that supporting third party candidates is not so taboo anymore while letting the political establishment know that their time is limited.

Care to explain?

July 22, 2016 - 17:56

Adam Sullivan

This isn't how you sell me on your point

July 22, 2016 - 17:57

Ryan Barnes

Allot of other socialists weren't however.

July 22, 2016 - 17:58

Zachary Torres

The IDPOL is out in force today.

Remember, protecting gays and niggers outweighs massive corruption and antisemitism, muh privileged sinner.

July 22, 2016 - 17:58

Gavin Robinson

gotta admit, i'm impressed

July 22, 2016 - 17:58

Wyatt Reyes

What?

July 22, 2016 - 17:59

Dominic Gray

>>>Holla Forums
>>>/gulag/
>>>/suicide/

July 22, 2016 - 17:59

Carson Lopez

...

July 22, 2016 - 17:59

Brayden Roberts

Niggers and hippies deserved a lot worse than Nixon gave them.

He was the hero we needed but didn't deserve.

July 22, 2016 - 18:00

Michael Morgan

That's one of the defenses for Hillary on Twitter right now. They're basically saying voting for corruption is saving minorities from Trump.

July 22, 2016 - 18:00

Ryan Collins

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/1697

kek

Shapiro
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Kaplan
Shapiro
Kaplan
Shapiro
Kaplan
Shapiro

July 22, 2016 - 18:01

Cooper Rogers

You're making a lot of assumptions about my reasons.

They pretty clearly do, given the state of things.

You are an anarchist supposedly, but you don't understand why local politics is important?

July 22, 2016 - 18:01

Jace James

your veneer is peeling away m8

July 22, 2016 - 18:01

Henry Ward

I'm more willing to side with these people because Trump is brazenly corrupt while Hillary is brazenly corrupt in a different way.

It's the same logic anyone here uses to justify their voting choices.

Still hate all Trump and Hillary voters all the same.

July 22, 2016 - 18:02

Alexander Jackson

...

July 22, 2016 - 18:02

Daniel Johnson

Mystifying your argument through the prism of self justified belief in order to explain expectation doesn't make your opinion any more valid.

It's time to stop.

July 22, 2016 - 18:02

Kayden Hughes

They disrupt society.

That in and of itself is deplorable.

The greatest responsibility of a man is to uphold law and order.

July 22, 2016 - 18:03

Dominic Rogers

Pretty simulation m8

July 22, 2016 - 18:04

Joshua Edwards

Oh and your opinion of Milo is so ludicrously embarrassing that I wonder whether you're a false flag from Holla Forums. Twitter has zero interest whatsoever about enforcing any sort of narrative or agenda. Like I said in and , It's a corporation and the sole function of corporations is to maximize profits. Its interests, therefore, extend only insomuch as they achieve that prime directive. Enforcing a narrative cuts into those profits, so there is no reason to expect or suspect that Twitter will do so.

If that ridiculous proposition of Twitter enforcing a narrative was true, there would actually be evidence of it. Instead, all we have is this contradictory fact of reality of Twitter being populated by strong and growing community of literal fascists, white nationalists, and alt-right reactionaries. That alone disproves it.

Except I'm not doing that?

July 22, 2016 - 18:04

David Thompson

MAXIMUM OVERSPOOK

July 22, 2016 - 18:04

William Stewart

Except you are?

July 22, 2016 - 18:05

Isaac Green

You sound like a massive wuss.

July 22, 2016 - 18:05

John Long

Rigorous authoritarian control of the masses is the greatest achievement any government can make.

July 22, 2016 - 18:05

Gabriel Jackson

...

July 22, 2016 - 18:06

Caleb Murphy

Shapiro is such a fucking child holy shit. Also, that's pretty fucked up but not at all surprising.

July 22, 2016 - 18:07

Dylan Howard

...

July 22, 2016 - 18:07

Justin Smith

whose law

whose order

faggot

July 22, 2016 - 18:07

Lucas Williams

Governments are spooks, along with many other things. Read Stirner.

July 22, 2016 - 18:08

Landon Scott

The law and order of conventional society.

July 22, 2016 - 18:08

Blake Hill

By whose convention?

July 22, 2016 - 18:09

Evan Ross

...

July 22, 2016 - 18:10

William Young

society in it's current form was designed to uphold capitalism and restrict freedom. Why should i protect it against my own interests.

July 22, 2016 - 18:10

Michael Johnson

Majority rule

Group think is the ultimate law

July 22, 2016 - 18:10

Logan Howard

So if the law and order of conventional society was that you should die. Would you kill yourself?

July 22, 2016 - 18:10

Julian King

lol inb4 whitenationalism

July 22, 2016 - 18:11

Zachary Turner

Yes

July 22, 2016 - 18:11

Adrian Bell

The people here saying they support Trump are just Holla Forumslacks and shitposters, right?

July 22, 2016 - 18:11

Dylan Watson

Jesus Christ fam can we get back to shitposting about Kaine/Wikileaks instead of feeding the Holla Forums trolls?

July 22, 2016 - 18:11

Grayson Perez

RIP

July 22, 2016 - 18:11

Evan Murphy

The suburb is nothing but a protective zone- remodeling, disinfection, a snobbish and hygenic design- but above all in a figurative sense: it is a machine for making emptiness

July 22, 2016 - 18:11

Xavier Turner

Probably

July 22, 2016 - 18:12

Robert Richardson

100% they came here thinking they could convince us to vote for the porkie that bribes the establishment

July 22, 2016 - 18:13

Connor Johnson

weeeeeeeeeeeeew.

July 22, 2016 - 18:13

Jose Edwards

Why convince you when genocide is so much faster?

July 22, 2016 - 18:13

Christian Baker

They keep droning on and on about race and God Emperor with hopes that we'll eventually give in. It's how they win, sheer attrition.

July 22, 2016 - 18:13

Jordan Scott

yes.
also check'd

July 22, 2016 - 18:14

Alexander Sullivan

And yet, only one of those candidates has any "pants on fire" ratings. Hmmm...
I think the main problem with politifact is it scores soundbites like "We have the highest childhood poverty rate of any major country on Earth" as well as statements like "I did not have sexual relations with that woman".

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA GIVE ME THE USERNAME FAM
Dude, this'll sound crazy but vote for the african nationalist. It's usually a big red flag for "crazy" like any nationalism but african nationalism itself is a fairly sound ideology. Of course the lol is much more likely to win but see what you can do about it, maybe even volunteer.
State level politics is a desperate state of affairs, I'll say that.
Run Nigga Run

No.
Fucking.
Way.

Fucking hell.

Oh, they made it clear as day. Nobody calls out President African-American and gets away with it!

WEW

Every time, it's either Susan or Phyllis

Ideologically or in membership? He's caucused with them for 10 years and has been a member for about a year. There's no "Democratic ideology", it's called a big tent.

HA

I love how obviously unstable DWS is. Seems like a total textbook narcissist, can't handle bants.

God he is so fucking based.

"Fingerprints"? The sly fucking bastards.

He even calls it "money laundering", fucking incredible.

WEW

He might mention it, but he'll also say it doesn't change his endorsement or membership in the party.

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if they mention it on one of Fox News' talk shows nobody watches and maybe MSNBC but never make a big deal out of it.

Ah, gut point.

WEW let's hope this shit tears the fuckers apart, shit like this is just what the media needs. Fuck 'em up, Donald. If Donald mentions this the media can't ignore it.

That's a fucking laugh. I love how none of it's sourced. The bit about the fundraising is probably true, but S█████ won't touch dirty money and they know that.

Tell me about Bern. Why does he wear the entryist disguise? A lot of loyalty for a hired shill.

>> It's better to vore third party.
Agreed famalam
-
By the way, I love how people were calling psyops regarding a lot of bullshit that was clear bullshit that the Clinton camp spewed, and this confirms that it wasn't just shilling, it was straight-up psyops. Someone talked about how someone said Gamergate psyops was probably going to polish said tactics for Hillary. Conversely, this also helps show that Gamergate really was psyops.>> It's better to vore third party

July 22, 2016 - 18:14

Isaac Hernandez

Desperate Donald.

July 22, 2016 - 18:14

Joseph Walker

Nice autism

July 22, 2016 - 18:15

David Williams

Deceptive Donald

Tyrant Trump

July 22, 2016 - 18:15

Hudson Howard

Kinda like how SJWs do too. It's like idpol turns people into babbys.

July 22, 2016 - 18:15

Evan Nelson

Good luck with that noodle arms

July 22, 2016 - 18:15

Nicholas Price

Wow I regret sticking my nose in here already.

July 22, 2016 - 18:15

Easton Russell

ooOOo… Now I'm convinced. I'm a #Trumpmissle noa

July 22, 2016 - 18:15

Gabriel Bennett

...

July 22, 2016 - 18:18

Adrian Wilson

I didn't realize how long it got, I'm sorry.

July 22, 2016 - 18:19

Leo Long

this lol

trump is going to kill us all haha

we must stop him

July 22, 2016 - 18:20

Brayden Gray

That was fucking brilliant

July 22, 2016 - 18:21

Jaxson Fisher

SFM is perfect for political cartoons holy shit.

July 22, 2016 - 18:21

Jayden Cooper

Way too many syllables.

Dupin' Don
Despot Don
etc.

July 22, 2016 - 18:23

William Myers

I'm fucking dead

July 22, 2016 - 18:25

Ayden Scott

Google already hates Assange.
This is probably the nail in the coffin.

July 22, 2016 - 18:26

Justin Reyes

Demon Don

July 22, 2016 - 18:27

Grayson Gomez

What was pic related all about btw?

I never believed she'd really be picked as VP, but do you guys think there was a conspiracy here? I think that by showing the world that she'd be open to the idea, the Clinton team pretty much exposed her and instilled some skepticism towards progressive politicians. Or something.

July 22, 2016 - 18:28

Jordan Lopez

Yeah it's people doing the "hello fellow leftists" bit and trying to persuade us to make a protest vote for Trump.

July 22, 2016 - 18:29

Andrew James

Given the rampant stupidity we've seen from them, I think it's more likely that they thought getting her to endorse Hillary was nothing more than an attempt to get the B████ vote.

July 22, 2016 - 18:30

Caleb Brooks

Trump is jewish and a zionist

He will sell the country out to Israel

Holla Forums is a bunch of jews, we of Holla Forums will make sure those dirty kikes get what's coming to them!

July 22, 2016 - 18:31

Parker Evans

Based Bernard S█████ will run third party and win.

July 22, 2016 - 18:31

Carter Mitchell

Why didn't she endorse Bernard? There's no good reason other than her own self interest as a politician, surely

July 22, 2016 - 18:34

Eli Morales

Except for the part where the deadline to get on the ballot has passed.

July 22, 2016 - 18:36

Charles Sanders

Yep basically 100%. Dude do you remember how ass kissingly hard that endorsement was?

July 22, 2016 - 18:36

Justin Brooks

He will win through write-ins.

A POLITICAL REVOLUTION

July 22, 2016 - 18:37

Julian Walker

fortune.com/2016/07/21/bernie-sanders-delegates-meeting/
it might not get as goofy as all that now

July 22, 2016 - 18:38

Liam Wilson

There's a deadline for that too, as nonsensical as that is.

July 22, 2016 - 18:40

Jaxon Myers

I like that the leaks confirmed that all attempts at unity were hollow gestures before Shillary picked her VP.

The party is broken.

July 22, 2016 - 18:43

Jaxson Evans

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/1209
DNC tryin' to get summa dat sweet sweet burger (king) money

July 22, 2016 - 18:45

Juan Miller

...

July 22, 2016 - 18:47

David Robinson

My favorite part was how mad the DNC shills got that Sanderistas were stopping Her from pivoting to the center. To borrow a phrase from the Trumpenproles, it's like B████ is playing 4D non-linear chess and they're playing checkers.

July 22, 2016 - 18:48

David Nguyen

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4788

youtube.com/watch?v=irvW58FN9C0

This is fucking tragic.

July 22, 2016 - 18:50

Tyler Edwards

Just think, by the time the convention roles around, all 20,000 e-mails will be processed and all of the juicy shit will be distributed all over the internet.

Philly is going to be a mad house.

July 22, 2016 - 18:50

Charles Johnson

...

July 22, 2016 - 18:51

Jaxson Hughes

Whew, social security nerds are trying to make Wikileaks seem like the bad guy again when it isn't their fault people are so retarded they share their credit card info via unencrypted emails.

twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/756657945014743040

July 22, 2016 - 18:52

Christian James

...

July 22, 2016 - 18:53

Bentley Sanders

These people share their fucking PASSWORDS over unencrypted emails. They deserve their information stolen.

July 22, 2016 - 18:54

Kevin Cox

Yeah

Everyone knows Soros is just a tool of the Rothschilds.

July 22, 2016 - 18:54

Kayden Miller

I was going to make a joke about the DNC "getting into bed with known monarchists" but most fast-food chains are creepily feudalistic, aren't then?

July 22, 2016 - 18:55

Henry Campbell

I'm just grateful that our corporate overlords are too stupid to implement a cyberpunk dystopia.

July 22, 2016 - 18:56

Joshua Mitchell

For now.

July 22, 2016 - 18:57

Bentley Young

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/966
They're trying to get George Clooney to do a special event at the DNC

July 22, 2016 - 18:59

Luke Thomas

youtube.com/watch?v=eY7FIS028u8

We need to

PENETRATE
THE INTERNET

July 22, 2016 - 19:00

Justin Adams

Isn't George Clooney who Trump wishes Trump was, really

July 22, 2016 - 19:04

Oliver Torres

...

July 22, 2016 - 19:09

Adrian Davis

George Clooney should be president. If we're going to live in this late capitalist nightmare at least have the president be someone everyone could masturbate to. I'd say do it before he ages but he doesn't age.

July 22, 2016 - 19:10

Ryan Howard

Daily reminder these people don't benefit from there being no state, money, or classes, which means them. : ^)

July 22, 2016 - 19:11

Ethan Martinez

inthesetimes.com/article/19317/the-chaos-of-trump-and-the-challenge-ahead
Trump Has Concocted a Dangerous New Blend of Pseudo-Leftism and Nativist Populism
good article on Trump's populism and idpol

July 22, 2016 - 19:11

Gabriel Long

?

July 22, 2016 - 19:12

Anthony Fisher

I think he's just disappointed no one is reporting on it on msm.

July 22, 2016 - 19:13

Jordan Murphy

Why? Is he sad that his lazy grandma can't learn about it?

July 22, 2016 - 19:19

Jordan Lee

You're right guys, I'm sure Shillary will be prosecuted this time.

July 22, 2016 - 19:21

Leo Roberts

How many emails are left to release?

This is "part one" after all.

July 22, 2016 - 19:23

Hudson Bennett

Don't worry guys the Hillary Victory Fund was totally legit
wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7937

Hi Luis, Just saw this article:

politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2016/may/05/george-clooney/george-clooney-decries-big-money-politics-says-mos/

From: Miranda, Luis

From:GWilson at perkinscoie.com

July 22, 2016 - 19:23

Luis Allen

Lel someone posted Chuck Todd's face this morning.
twitter.com/ProfessorDNA/status/756665841777803264

July 22, 2016 - 19:25

Kayden Richardson

Shit, the full e-mail is their goddamn battleplan.

July 22, 2016 - 19:25

Ayden Ward

whos chuck todd and whats his relevance to the leaks?

July 22, 2016 - 19:27

Leo Morgan

I normally hate using betamale or cuck as an insult, but Movieblob is a clear example of a cuck for Hillary

July 22, 2016 - 19:28

Kayden Perez

So they've finally come out and admitted it, they're just as much slaves to capital as conservatives

July 22, 2016 - 19:31

Landon Gomez

He works for MSNBC and was the DNC's contact with them.

July 22, 2016 - 19:34

Connor Bell

oh I see. lol
The face looks like mine when I was 5 and my report card came in.

July 22, 2016 - 19:38

Julian Torres

lel
There will be more where that came from I'm sure.

July 22, 2016 - 19:40

Adrian Taylor

Specifically, this is what's a big deal and probably why he made that face.
wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/8379

July 22, 2016 - 19:43

Jonathan Collins

At least use coherent English when shitposting.

Prove it.

July 22, 2016 - 19:44

Joshua Flores

Twitter on suicide watch.

July 22, 2016 - 19:48

Josiah Rodriguez

WOW

July 22, 2016 - 19:52

Chase Edwards

reddit.com/r/politics/comments/4u5ztv/dnc_email_leak_megathread/d5n4i63

There's a big list of bullshit people have uncovered here

July 22, 2016 - 19:54

Adrian Rivera

- DWS

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/9999

July 22, 2016 - 19:56

Noah Cruz

lets hope comrade.

July 22, 2016 - 19:56

Wyatt Gonzalez

unironic upvote :^)

July 22, 2016 - 19:57

Anthony Martinez

I fucking knew that the question at that event was planted

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/11508

July 22, 2016 - 20:02

Nolan Hill

there's something about DNC people using the word peeps that makes me feel uncomfortable.

July 22, 2016 - 20:05

Oliver Perez

dog whistle for
'Humans'

July 22, 2016 - 20:07

Carter Diaz

I wonder how many posters here were on their payroll?

July 22, 2016 - 20:12

Daniel Bennett

We need a "best of" of these leaks.

I found it effective. Whenever a shill or an idiot tries to downplay it, you just pick one of them quotes as a response.

July 22, 2016 - 20:13

Wyatt Powell

Not as many as reddit

July 22, 2016 - 20:14

William Rogers

A couple, early on. But they were always so blatant and retarded I imagine they gave up pretty quick. Every once in a while a shill will pop in and get laughed at into oblivion.

July 22, 2016 - 20:15

Owen Miller

Sanders needs to renounce his support for shillary ASAP.

July 22, 2016 - 20:15

Isaac Mitchell

Yeah, without mods to protect them shills stick out like a sore thumb

July 22, 2016 - 20:16

Henry Evans

This!

July 22, 2016 - 20:17

Thomas Allen

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/10289

July 22, 2016 - 20:18

Kayden Johnson

Person that neveir existed, will not, as he wants to stay in the party, hopefully to push his agenda.

July 22, 2016 - 20:19

Ryder Rogers

Extremely relevant.
reddit.com/r/politics/comments/4u441d/leaked_emails_show_dnc_officials_constructing/d5mnf8l

User was suspended by admins for talking about CTR (the super pac that funds the shilling)

Only admins can dish out suspensions. They happen rarely

July 22, 2016 - 20:19

Jayden Lee

see

July 22, 2016 - 20:19

Robert Brooks

Lol. It was really something to see the change when the shills started posting on reddit. Overnight, it was a complete flip from overwhelmingly pro-Bernie to overwhelmingly "BernieBro B████Bro, sexist, woman hater boo hoo he lost now get with the program" and from that it slowly morphed into the Trump circlejerk it is now.

July 22, 2016 - 20:22

Matthew Howard

Thanks comrade!

July 22, 2016 - 20:23

Juan Baker

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/14549

From: Michael

From: Parrish, Daniel

From: Zach Allen

From: Parrish, Daniel

From: Zach Allen

From: Parrish, Daniel

From:AllenZ

July 22, 2016 - 20:23

Dominic Reyes

Also the mods of the bigger subreddits (who are in regular contact with admins) were handing out bans left and right for even mentioning shills.

July 22, 2016 - 20:23

Christopher Baker

And this is why I don't go to plebbit.

July 22, 2016 - 20:26

Jeremiah Myers

There was NebraskaGunOwner too who got banned (though it was undone later after lots of criticism) because he talked about Hillary's FBI investigation too much. He was basically the /r/politics "expert" on the whole thing, posted in every thread, with relevant legal information.

So naturally the only thing the mods of a political forum could do was ban someone for participating in political discussions.

July 22, 2016 - 20:26

William Ward

What the Actual fuck!

July 22, 2016 - 20:28

Parker Davis

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/162

> Please find all details for this inspiring event within the RSVP link hillaryclinton.com/events/tickets/W4JKD6B5FSLAH7IC/?raiser=469711 hillaryclinton.com/events/tickets/W4JKD6B5FSLAH7IC/?raiser=469711> (when you do RSVP, I would very much appreciate if you would indicate that I, Shefali Razdan Duggal, am the host who invited you to this experience). Please feel free to pass this invitation along to others whom you believe may be interested in joining us for a exciting and energetic experience with Secretary Hillary Clinton and many popular artists. Should you have any thoughts, questions, concerns or would like to RSVP, please feel free to contact me directly at [email protected]/* */ >. Or, if you are unable to attend this event for any reason, Secretary Hillary Clinton, the campaign and I personally would so deeply appreciate if you might consider a donation (of any comfortable amount) to support Hillary for America. Any quantity which you can invest into the campaign would be absolutely beneficial to help facilitate Hillary Clinton in continuing to share her vision within and throughout the United States. Thank you so much, in advance, and I look forward to seeing you there!

July 22, 2016 - 20:32

Mason Jenkins

Actually I don't necessarily think that she picked him because he's a centrist. She ipcked him because of Virginia. Which is smart, when the race is this close.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Obviously it's not illegal or wrong, but what's wrong is that they even HELD a primary that was a lie and a sham. If they just nominated someone it'd be different. It's also fucking stupid and suicidal. Effectively, as always, Bob Chipman is a fucking homonigger and the only argument he can take down is a strawman, because god forbid he make videos.

July 22, 2016 - 20:39

Isaiah Morgan

lol is this clown's name actually "schmuck?"
wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/2377

Schmuck, Bobby E. EOP/WHO >> wrote:

"Kaplan, Jordan"

Shapiro, Alexandra

Kaplan, Jordan

Shapiro, Alexandra

Kaplan, Jordan

Shapiro, Alexandra

Kaplan, Jordan

ShapiroA

July 22, 2016 - 20:41

Nathan Russell

Feeling pretty let down right now. I spent over $2000 on donations for B████, and then this shit happens. That was supposed to be going towards my tuition this semester, and now I'm short funds with nothing to show for it. Trying to find a job for rest of the summer but no luck.

Tim Kaine? At least she could have picked Elizabeth Warren and gave B████ a position on the cabinet. But this? Really depressed.

July 22, 2016 - 20:41

Juan Perez

You gotta be kidding me comrade right?
Democracy is just an Illusion.

July 22, 2016 - 20:46

Luis Anderson

all at once or like what

July 22, 2016 - 20:47

Kevin Johnson

You're too stupid to be using a computer.

July 22, 2016 - 20:48

Brody Wilson

were the (you)'s really worth it

July 22, 2016 - 20:49

Eli James

what an idiot…
remove that flag
this was predictable

July 22, 2016 - 20:51

Wyatt Baker

I keep on getting blocked when arguing with people on Twitter. Oftentimes, I'm not even rude, or if I am it's always in response to previous hostility from the other user, either at me or at another. Am I just an asshole or is this commonplace on Twitter? Usually, it's liberals and Hillary supporters who block me.

polite sage for off-topic, but I'm curious if any of you have experienced this

July 22, 2016 - 20:52

Dominic Watson

This is bait from top to bottom, right?

July 22, 2016 - 20:52

Brandon Sanchez

might as well throw another (you)

July 22, 2016 - 20:53

Xavier Collins

lots of h8rs man. Sorry dude that shit sucks

July 22, 2016 - 20:54

Thomas Lee

twitter is cancer m8. Pretty sure its commonplace

July 22, 2016 - 20:56

Isaac Perez

kys

July 22, 2016 - 20:57

Noah Young

It is commonplace.

July 22, 2016 - 20:58

Jonathan Clark

make me smuglord.

I got blocked once because I called someones twitter poll stupid. the options were

"WOULD YOU RATHER LIVE IN AN AMERICA WHERE YOU CAN PAY OFF YOUR STUDENT LOANS OR GET IT PAID FOR FREE?"

July 22, 2016 - 20:58

Nolan Young

Is anyone going to talk about Hillary's pick for VP?

July 22, 2016 - 21:01

Robert Moore

whats to say? He's as uninteresting as it gets dude. if hillary thought it'd move the needle at all it just shows either how unafraid of trump she is or how out of touch her campaign is

July 22, 2016 - 21:02

Adrian Hernandez

Man I know Holla Forums takes bait like nobody else but come on.

July 22, 2016 - 21:02

Levi Ward

are B████ and Not Socialism censored?

July 22, 2016 - 21:03

Oliver Fisher

Holy shit Holla Forums censors things as a fucking joke? I thought this place couldn't get any more pathetic. I thought that was a meme.

July 22, 2016 - 21:04

Angel Robinson

(You)

No, that's just Shitter.

The BO is a cunt, but we're fantastic. So there's that.
-
Hey guys, /r/enoughsandersspam still exists.

July 22, 2016 - 21:05

Ayden Green

...

July 22, 2016 - 21:05

Hunter Scott

Cuse' he's about as remarkable of white hair military faced dude. (the Republican one)

July 22, 2016 - 21:06

Thomas Hill

I feel really bad for you Americans right now, you have a choice between two old cunts neither of which is a good choice but right now the proven racist cunt is probably going to win.

July 22, 2016 - 21:06

Grayson Martinez

The wordfilters aren't the joke, they are the setup to the punchline that is you.

Gets me everytime.

July 22, 2016 - 21:06

Asher Ortiz

is anyone brave enough to check how they're reacting to the leaks?

July 22, 2016 - 21:06

Brayden Russell

It's a fucking joke you retard. Everyone knows Who B████ ██████ is. And Nat Soc is corrected because it's not socialism. You're attitude is highly excellent and I think you should go to a website where they put up Rated PG Parental Guidances.

July 22, 2016 - 21:07

Blake Barnes

Sometimes I call him [REDACTED]

kek

July 22, 2016 - 21:08

Jackson Diaz

wow.

I fucking hate that >>>/anarcho/ is dead and so is >>>/liberty/

BO is a Tankie.

July 22, 2016 - 21:08

Julian Williams

...

July 22, 2016 - 21:09

Asher Clark

Already did. They're calling them "out of context" and basically trying their hardest to read the less bad ones as lightly as possible and outright ignoring the really bad ones like the one where they talk about spreading the Nevada chairs myth.

July 22, 2016 - 21:09

Christopher Brown

like, this is becoming a daily regular occurrence, famrades.

Almost every single exchange I have is ending in one or more people blocking me. Of course, it's usually after I basically imply, or outright state, that they're retarded and don't have a clue about what they're talking about, but it's only because most of them are extremely condescending toward me.

I think I've been blocked like 10+ times today alone. Top fucking wew.

July 22, 2016 - 21:11

Hudson Baker

fug, forgot to sage

July 22, 2016 - 21:13

Angel Kelly

...

July 22, 2016 - 21:13

Sebastian Reyes

That's twitter for you.

July 22, 2016 - 21:14

Tyler Nguyen

Hey, what a surprise, a subreddit for misinformation is spreading misinformation.

He says it's not a conspiracy at the end of an email in which he literally conspires to undermine the S█████ campaign.

July 22, 2016 - 21:14

David Price

y tho

July 22, 2016 - 21:14

Jose Reed

ess people will be the death of me. I don't know how much correct the record pays these people but it's too much

July 22, 2016 - 21:14

Lucas Anderson

Yeah. Unless you are cowed by liberal snark you're going to get banned. Its because people see personal twitter accounts more as a brand then a place to have a discussion.

You make their brand look bad you get blocked son.

And the thread gets redacted

July 22, 2016 - 21:15

Brayden Parker

Twitter is an awful place to have a discussion though.

July 22, 2016 - 21:15

Easton Clark

Yeah it is.
but thats where the people be

July 22, 2016 - 21:18

Justin Brown

people are also awful for discussion

July 22, 2016 - 21:19

Owen Butler

muh enclave

July 22, 2016 - 21:20

Michael Morgan

It's where a lot of fellow millennials are and I can use it as a platform to push and normalize revolutionary rhetoric. Also, I'm bored out of my mind and I get a certain guilty pleasure with the rapid bickering that occurs on Twitter. The only problem is that I'm using my real account.

I've never used Twitter, anyway, and only recently got into it. My interest in it will probably die within the next few months and my account will go back to being dormant.

This is basically what I've noticed. If I have the temerity to persist and be aggressive in my criticism, I'm usually blocked immediately. It's like Twitter is a game of catching the lowest-hanging fruit and condescending them until they cave to the peer pressure. For those who put up a fight, blocks and mutes are ready at a moment's notice, often after pushing in a few final replies. Because I don't do the latter part, I often find myself wasting hours with the retards.

And speaking of "liberal snark", I was blocked by some woman and self-described "feminist" for having the audacity to call her out for spreading bullshit about Jill Stein being anti-vax. It quickly got ugly when I basically started accusing her of being a shill. After her final replies, she blocked me before I could respond and tweeted on her main feed something to the effect of "blocked for refusing to respect my opinions #mainsplaining", which of course got likes and support from her clique.

Maybe I'm just a glutton for frustration and rage.

140 characters, and usually much less due to @replies, hashtags, and links. It is a shitty place to have discussion, but it's a new and interesting medium and it's where all the normies and many dank commie memes are. If it weren't for the fact that I don't trust Facebook in the slightest, I might have done it there instead.

July 22, 2016 - 21:29

Nicholas Miller

They also be on other places, like Facebook and Youtube comment sections. :^)

July 22, 2016 - 21:29

Blake Rodriguez

...

July 22, 2016 - 21:37

Wyatt Sullivan

Still sounds normal, kek.

July 22, 2016 - 21:38

Cameron Jackson

Trump is a nationalist, the reason the right hated gay people and trannies is because of the Evangelical wing.
I dont know if trump is religious but i would think he just genuinely doesn't care about all the jesus crap.
A victory for trump means that he successfully tied up all the jesus freaks and threw them in the back trunk, and now faggots are in the club

July 22, 2016 - 21:43

Henry Butler

Isn't Pence religious though?

July 22, 2016 - 21:45

Jordan Lopez

pence is the vp establishment buttboy trump found to bounce ideas off of and never listen to

July 22, 2016 - 21:49

Liam Jones

No, not kidding.

Just small donations at first, but then in May I donated $1200 in one shot, got lost in the moment. Lots of other people were donating that kind of money, their entire rent checks, etc. and living in their cars. I really thought he could have won.

Not bait, just really fucking stupid to believe this could have ever worked.

July 22, 2016 - 22:11

Adam Martinez

...

July 22, 2016 - 22:22

Julian Gomez

Perhaps not…

Donald Trump Reportedly Plans to Delegate All Domestic and Foreign Power to his VP

Source: motherjones.com/politics/2016/07/donald-trump-mike-pence-running-mate-domestic-foreign-policy
Archive: archive.is/U2mXC

I'm not sure if the claim is legit, but if so, it appears Trump was just a front for the GOP the entire time.

July 22, 2016 - 22:25

Landon Moore

Oh. See, your post just reads like posts Trump supporters used to make. Sorry about that.

In that case, I understand why you might be upset. Here's my take on it- your money may not have had the buying power you had hoped for to make B████ president, but goddamn shitfucking hellfuck if you didn't change a lot. Worst comes to worst, B████ will get Senate Minority Leadership, which is important. The millions still left over from his campaign will go to his orgs. We spooked the Democrats with our rapid and efficient organization. We had a bajillion times more volunteers than Obama had for his presidential campaign AFTER he had secured the nomination. We changed the platform extensively. We woke people up to injustices. Her shitty VP pick has more to do with Virginia than centrism, and it definitely isn't indicative of our impact, especially since he won't listen to him at all.

Also, if you need a job, set up a computer repair service. A fucking monkey can do it, especially when it's software-related.

whisper of a meme, we can still win

kek, Basic Kasich said the same thing. I hope he's not lying, it's hilarious to imagine Trump coming groveling to this guy who got like 2.3% of the vote because of his appeal to centrists. If anything, Kasich might be a shill, but he's also no sellout. I admire the fact he turned him down.

July 22, 2016 - 22:29

Ian Murphy

>corporations[…]leave[…]inverted[…]capital flight[…]the U.S.
Where on earth would they go? There's hundreds of trillions in financial instruments locked up in the US economy, even more abroad under US control. Like somebody else observed, the various piggybank mechanisms are already so overstuffed they're paying negative interest so that Uncle Sam can keep their booty safe. Even if there was somewhere to put it, the most trivial expatriation tax would destroy them.

You're talking about the Great Depression, look at that graph. Look at it.

That was also true into the 1920s, the age of colonialism when neoliberalism on steroids ruled the waves of the Gilded Age, offshoring production to petty possessions and importing desperate immigrants, much as today, but far worse. Even your suggestion of technology is ridiculous given the fact that abuse of readily available Hispanic nations and laborers collapsed in the era I'm referring to, and magically exploded at its end.

The federal spending part is true, but it was already working before WWII due to the alphabet soup agencies. Also, there was the tremendous issue of harsh new business and financial regulations… Such as trade tariffs and immigration quotas.

Most of your post that isn't good communist theory is boilerplate MSM pablum, and I can't blame you too much for it since there's really nobody countering such propaganda in an organized fashion, but this is by far the worst. Take a quick skim through these articles:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_position_of_the_United_States
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_China

Notice that foreign ownership is valued at only $15T out of a capital stock of OVER $270T. Now notice that the Chinese GDP is over $11T but trade accounts for only $2.2T exports and $1.6T imports, for comparison, US GDP is over $18T with $1.6T exports and $2.3T imports (note that these trade figures are global, China only accounts for 20% of US imports and 7% of US exports). Ending regulatory arbitrage would be a bare blip on the radar for us, and a shocking but manageable event for China.

My point isn't that China is leeching power from the US, but that the transnational corporate plutocracy is leeching power from both of us. Also, the idea that the US is waning is absolutely ridiculous. Current and projected massive gap between our economy and anyone else's aside, even if the US descends into 3rd-world levels under the uncontested reign of neoliberalism, we will remain the center of the financial world, though as a prize jewel client of corporations rather than a state superpower.

July 22, 2016 - 22:30

Hudson Ross

Like said, that's some impressive trolling. On the one hand, he was a corrupt scumball that probably assassinated his way into office. On the other hand, the guy violated every conservative principle imaginable by opening relations with China and kicking offshoring to overdrive throughout the 3rd-world abroad, while instituting USSR-grade economic controls at home.

Better yet, due to the unusual legacy of our republican federation, downballot 3rd-parties and sympathizers could use state legislatures and even direct referenda to kill FPTP voting at the federal level without the cooperation of the federal government.

Every single "charge" against Milo is a transparent crock. I love the way it's evolved, first the story was about a poor little corporate PR whore mysteriously without an IT handler getting flamed with a fraction of the bile that Milo wades through constantly, then that Milo himself went over the line with banter you see online everyday, then that he started harassment that actually began long before, then that he aided in faking statements from her that were obviously parody, now there are ridiculous conspiracy theories about him secretly masterminding the original redchannit threads threads (leaving aside the fact this reboot movie and its shills were created for the explicit purpose of spewing utterly despicable slurs against and generally infuriating ideological enemies.)

Also, Twatter and profit? Really!? They haven't generated one wooden nickel, and their PR puppets have constantly been shilling the idea of other entities "adopting" and "subsidizing" them as some sort of public utility! They may have started as a cellular IM venture, but after they became a darling among journos, HR, and politicians, they've become little more than a mechanism for political manipulation.

You realize what this means, right guys? IDPOL WILL LOSE ITS BOOGEYMAN ON THE LEFT! WE'RE FREE AT LAST!

Twatter's design is perfectly suited to creating out-of-context OUTRAGEOUS soundbytes to form crybully mobs against ideologically disfavored celebrities with.

July 22, 2016 - 22:30

Blake Long

Is there really hope?

July 22, 2016 - 22:48

Brandon Wright

I was getting ready to put up an anti-/r/ess/ mural until I got fucking stopped by a cop who saw my practice drawing

July 22, 2016 - 23:04

Adam Torres

What was it gonna say?

July 22, 2016 - 23:09

Andrew Foster

You know, if these guys are CTR shills…

How many do you think have Obama-Biden-2012 and obamain08 as their passwords?

July 22, 2016 - 23:09

Grayson Johnson

Not likely. What we know about them seems to suggest that most people work from home on their personal accounts.

July 22, 2016 - 23:11

Anthony Martinez

It was going to be a mural of Trump and Clinton in the vein of "My God Help Me To Survive This Deadly Love" with a few shortened links to the more damning /r/ess/ posts

July 22, 2016 - 23:26

Elijah Cook

Or they're Indians recruited and paid to slave away via piecework websites.

July 22, 2016 - 23:27

Michael Nelson

Tim kain is a low energy jeb tier vp pick that will scare away progressives.
I think a lot of people are just going to sit this election out, which works in trumps favor.
Have to see how the debates go.

July 22, 2016 - 23:53

Lincoln Thompson

To the new core of the capitalist world-system, namely China, Brazil, and India. The European Union and United Kingdom are also options, though they are also the old core and thus waning in power.

Naturally, the bourgeoisie are panicked and want to try to hold onto their waning empire for as long as they can, since it has served them so absurdly well for the past two and a half centuries. I wouldn't be surprised if many of them are so intoxicated by ideology that they fail to see the futility in it. Nevertheless, the core appears to have shifted and nothing short of a revolution can change that.

What of it? The United States did still have a labor shortage. Just because there's a labor shortage, that doesn't mean mass unemployment isn't impossible, especially during a sustained downturn as bad as the Great Depression.

Nowhere at comprable levels. I find it hard to believe that the conditions you just described are seriously comparable to the high-tech globalization we're currently experiencing over the past 40 years.

The cause of the boom, however, was due principally to a WWII wartime economy.

You haven't specified where my "communist theory" is lacking and I don't even watch the mainstream media anymore, so I suspect your accusation of "MSM pablum" is not accurate. This analysis I'm proposing is what the likes of Richard D. Wolff (Marxist economist) offers, not the shills on .

China produces the majority of commercial consumer goods, however, which is the foundation for the U.S. economy. That's why almost everything you own was manufactured in part or in whole in China, even including many of the products labeled as manufactured elsewhere.

The current trends since the 1970s support that conclusion.

And you seriously trust those models, which were probably produced by neoclassical or Keynesian high priests economists and which have built into them countless different assumptions informed by their bourgeois ideology? I prefer to see the actual economic trends of the past half-century and draw a conclusion from them rather than rely on the notoriously ephemeral projections of capitalism's paid shills.

July 22, 2016 - 23:54

Josiah Reyes

s p i c y b o i

July 22, 2016 - 23:55

Thomas Bailey

...

July 22, 2016 - 23:55

Luis Jenkins

Trump will thrash Hillary, and Hillary will thrash Trump, and it'll be a question of who gets a worse thrashing. She may be a boring shill, but she's not a low energy cuck. The VP debates will be snorefests unless Pence really is a surprise.

July 22, 2016 - 23:56

Dominic Evans

Voting is my fetish tho

July 22, 2016 - 23:57

Aaron Butler

Sex Criminal. Sex Criminal. Sex Criminal. Sex Criminal. Sex Criminal. Sex Criminal. Sex Criminal. Sex Criminal. Sex Criminal. Sex Criminal.

July 22, 2016 - 23:57

Nathaniel Sanders

You’re still on about this? What do you prefer instead—shitpost on Holla Forums and wishfully think anarcha-feminism into existence?

July 22, 2016 - 23:59

Michael Barnes

A simple Google search dispels that:

vox.com/2016/7/20/12226070/milo-yiannopoulus-twitter-ban-explained
washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2016/07/21/what-it-takes-to-get-banned-from-twitter/
theguardian.com/technology/2016/jul/20/milo-yiannopoulos-nero-permanently-banned-twitter
techcrunch.com/2016/07/19/twitter-finally-bans-milo-yiannopoulos-one-of-its-most-notorious-trolls/

The story has remained consistent this entire time. Perhaps you shouldn't rely on chan and Twitter gossip to inform your understanding of the event next time.

What compelling evidence is there for believing that Twitter, a private corporate enterprise, is principally motivated by something other than profit and the maximization thereof?

July 23, 2016 - 00:01

Leo Phillips

At least that changes something.

July 23, 2016 - 00:01

William Peterson

Trump will change America I know it I just know it!

July 23, 2016 - 00:01

Luis Peterson

Trump at the debates:" Remember that time you voted for the war in iraq", "remember that time your husband gutted the working class with NAFTA", "remember that time you destroyed Libya and gave rise to isis" "Remember that time your husband expanded the private prison industry", "remember that time your husband rode on a pedophiles private jet"

Clinton at debates: "Uhhhhhh, he said mean things to mexicans"!

July 23, 2016 - 00:02

Sebastian Thomas

more like

They both support war in the middle east and both support NAFTA

July 23, 2016 - 00:04

Benjamin Miller

This is literally the worst form of idpol “personal is political,” neoliberal, ego-centric (in the worst way) cancer. Electoral politics may make one inch of difference, but that’s a whole inch better than your zero. At the very least it has the potential to raise consciousness among the public, unlike your doing-nothing, which has the capacity to raise consciousness in roughly 0 to 1 person.

July 23, 2016 - 00:05

James Brooks

What hyperbole? Me bitching about feminism will do more to change America than Donald Trump.

July 23, 2016 - 00:07

Jeremiah Perez

of course shills will do everything to derail meaningful discussions

The damage control is real

July 23, 2016 - 00:08

Jayden Carter

what meaningful discussion. what shills. What am I shilling

July 23, 2016 - 00:09

Lucas Hill

This high art

July 23, 2016 - 00:17

Jeremiah Long

I didn't implied you, you did it yourself.
Tells quite a lot, don't you think?

July 23, 2016 - 00:20

Anthony Foster

I am shilling my brand

July 23, 2016 - 00:21

Blake Gutierrez

you are either a shill or schizophrenic because the way you type and shit on actual discussion is truly shit worthy

July 23, 2016 - 00:21

Elijah Anderson

truly shit worthy

July 23, 2016 - 00:25

Matthew Cooper

Yeah, real “change” comes about by shitposters and complainers whinging around in echo chambers. I was an edgy college anarchist too.

When you get into the real world and start paying bills and taxes, have family sent on tours of duty, struggle to pay medical bills and have loved ones being imprisoned in administrative “security detention” (oh yeah, that’s happened to me too), then yes, you realize the electoral politics has some useful effects. More than “changing muh cultural discourse” wankery lmao.

July 23, 2016 - 00:29

Jackson Price

You'll be a liberal in five years.

July 23, 2016 - 00:38

Liam Lewis

Never said bourgeois electoral politics would save us. Never said we shouldn’t be organizing in real-life leftist circles. How many here are actually doing that? I am. But it’s the highest form of liberal idealism to think that, in the case bourgeois politics has little effect, it’s better to do literally nothing at all.

July 23, 2016 - 00:42

Matthew Murphy

lol on the twitter subject, I just got blocked and criticized on my follower count for bringing up that Hillary wanted to start a war in Iran.

This fucking libs are so piss scared of trump dudes

July 23, 2016 - 00:42

Asher Morgan

Tankies truly are cryptoliberal counterrevolutionaries.

July 23, 2016 - 00:42

Ryder Morris

...

July 23, 2016 - 00:44

Nicholas Powell

I'm in Frente Socialista in Puerto Rico. Or I will be.

I've noticed a lot of anons from Puerto Rico. I think something big is happening here.

July 23, 2016 - 00:50

Luke Flores

The question is how do we get people to care about this leak?

I'm thinking if anyone lives near the DNC Convention they could print out something like this.

I think it might help especially with the amount of people that will be there.

July 23, 2016 - 00:50

Aiden Campbell

I suddenly understand how tankies think

July 23, 2016 - 00:50

Caleb Mitchell

That's actually from a specific strip. Whoever did that is a master.

wew that's not what's being said you fucking normie

July 23, 2016 - 00:54

Hunter Lewis

Please see the spoiler-text and the two sentences immediately preceding it in

You children and your lifestylist “rejectionism is activism xDDD” meme are the reason the left is powerless.

If you fail to see how actual people’s lives are affected by politics, then what the fuck are you doing in politics? LARPing? You are.

Also

lmao

July 23, 2016 - 00:55

Jacob Flores

Refer to . I'm not objecting to your justified criticism of the (potentially false-flagging) anfem user, only to your peddling of trite tropes about anarchists which I expect from a liberal of a particularly conservative predilection—and, curiously, from tankies. Such rhetoric immediately discredits you from being a serious participant in any discourse from a radical leftist perspective and impugns your own ideological affiliation to the radical left.

Flags exist for a reason. That user obviously doesn't have the anarcho-green flag, so it's safe (and rational) to assume that we're probably different individuals. Then again, you seem more interested in cycling through anarchist stereotypes and inculpating anarchists collectively as a monolithic and one-dimensional group than caring about such nuance like there being more than one person who might disagree with you or that those disagreements might not be predicated on a difference in ideology or tendency, so perhaps it's futile to even try to explain.

July 23, 2016 - 01:26

Lincoln Rodriguez

same thing happened to me, too, famrade. i seriously didn't expect someone to use my low follower count as an insult. even with my low opinion of liberals, i didn't think one could be so shallow.

July 23, 2016 - 01:31

Ryan James

Sorry for triggering your identities

July 23, 2016 - 01:32

Blake Perez

...

July 23, 2016 - 01:34

Gabriel Flores

Yeah it was fucking baffling dude. I asked if it was a joke and then got the bloxxxxxxx.

Open up a twitter for identity brand shilling m8

July 23, 2016 - 01:37

Easton Flores

She went full asspain on me but somebody who chimed in with a high follower count she was suddenly rational.

July 23, 2016 - 01:39

Jack Foster

fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-mythology-of-trumps-working-class-support/

July 23, 2016 - 01:39

Christian Adams

kek

Shillary just fucked up with her vp pick, on the surface it seems smart because boring white guy who wont rock the boat.

You dig into it and he is a corporate liberal loved by wall street that wants the tpp.

The democratic electorate are leaning more towards far left ideas whether it be B████ bros or the insanity of sjw's.

all the young jaded people will sit this one out, all the hyped up old white people and pol will vote in mass.

July 23, 2016 - 01:49

Mason Cox

...

July 23, 2016 - 01:50

Kevin Jackson

during the DNC convention twitter and tumblr must be taken over by leftypol as we shitpost memes about woke corporate grandma

July 23, 2016 - 01:51

Gabriel Flores

This is always the case, though. Politicians have to cater to older voters. Why? Because the youth don't vote.

Also, nice non sequitur. We're talking about class, not far left v. far right. But sure, in a way, Trump could be competitive with the very class that Democrats love to present to the masses as the people they’ve sworn to protect from Republicans, Wall Street, and special interests, despite the fact that the latter two are equally invested in Democrats (if not more so) than the GOP.

July 23, 2016 - 01:57

Leo Bell

The Holodomer was propaganda though. There was a famine in 1928-1929 that is literally ignored by Western scholars, except a select few. Look up Mark B Taugin.

July 23, 2016 - 02:08

Joshua Price

No, they fucking love doing that shit dude. It usually insinuates you're a troll/shill. Because you know, maybe you just have better things to do than shitpost on Twitter, unlike the losers you're conversing with. Like on my account it literally even says made in 2013, an embarrassing number of tweets from when I actually used the service, etc. they just go straight to follower count.

July 23, 2016 - 02:51

Liam Parker

Which one?

July 23, 2016 - 03:13

Adrian Allen

Where are they getting Guccifier had connections to the Russians?
I keep hearing this spouted but not a single person backs that up.

July 23, 2016 - 03:13

Connor Barnes

Probably a new narrative they're trying to spin.

July 23, 2016 - 03:16

Daniel Morris

I'm going to the DNC with a sign like this. I had something else but then wiki leaks happened. Any suggestions for what to use instead? I'll be in the protest marches. Gonna have the image printed later today.

July 23, 2016 - 03:26

Leo Clark

Some intelligence organizations concluded it based on things like using similar tactics as Ruskies. I don't think that proves much though because Russia is the nexus of hacking and piracy and has been since the day Gorbachev took office.

July 23, 2016 - 03:38

Jose Adams

Point out the main issue with the leaks- that they prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the "Democratic" party had no intention of actually listening to their voting constituency and instead cheaply manipulated them with things like the Victory Fund to get the candidate they wanted to the top. It's probably illegal, and if it isn't then it's a huge "fuck you" to their voters and shows they don't give a bit of a shit. Something like-

"DEMOCRAT- LEXIT GREEN FOR DEMOCRACY"

July 23, 2016 - 03:43

Jackson Howard

Just realized the term we've been using is "Demexit", not "Lexit"

July 23, 2016 - 03:45

Owen Gutierrez

something bold and catchy to wake up normies from a distance, like "HILLARY = 1%" or "It's not Her vs. Him, it's us versus the 1%"
Also feel free to share new wikileaks revelations with the crowd and see if anyone has the balls to crash that insult to democracy they call a convention.

Anyone with two brain cells to rub together has to see there's something wrong with a big fucking fence separating the actual people from where the party supposedly for the people is having a circlejerk for the cameras.

July 23, 2016 - 04:44

Ryder Nguyen

I'm thinking of doing a qr code linking to this reddit.com/r/politics/comments/4u5ztv/dnc_email_leak_megathread/d5n4i63

July 23, 2016 - 05:12

Gavin Flores

I would try things more like Hillary2016, Hill4Pres, or something like that. A long shot, but there are so many shills in that fetid little nest you're bound to hit on something.

July 23, 2016 - 05:40

Eli Butler

Likewise. I was incredulous, then promptly ridiculed her for such a ludicrous response.

It's becoming increasingly apparent that Twitter is a collective exercise in vanity and virtue signaling. Such a waste of potential.

July 23, 2016 - 05:49

Dominic Morris

Nah the format is shit to start with. A circle jerk platform like that only got popular because narcissists and advertisers made it so.

July 23, 2016 - 05:54

Ayden Turner

It's amazing that that thread is full of fucking dullards just now wondering if reddit and the people in charge of it might be manipulating the site and its content in order to support some sort of narrative or interest.

GOLLY, CORPORATE COLLUSION???? NO WAY!!

July 23, 2016 - 06:01

Juan Reyes

Some of it is probably sarcasm. Reddit has had plenty of scandals about that. E.g. the Chairman Pao thing.

July 23, 2016 - 06:08

Brody Sanders

Care to trot out any more memetic nonsense from Holla Forums, or are you through?

Really makes you think…….

Holodomor was indeed propagandized for obvious reasons, but to suggest that it was merely another famine despite the strong evidence of political motivation is, at best, dubious.

July 23, 2016 - 06:10

Jack Gray

New York Times sees only “whiteness” at Republican convention
wsws.org/en/articles/2016/07/22/time-j22.html

By David Walsh
22 July 2016

July 23, 2016 - 06:30

Luis Hernandez

...

July 23, 2016 - 06:30

Aaron Cruz

How's this for a sign? It's going to be a square, with the lower cutoff parts put on the back side. The QR code links to the reddit thread with the links published. Is there something better than #BernieOrBust I can use?

July 23, 2016 - 07:08

Elijah Brooks

the 99% vs 1% slogan is a populist slogan which doesn't properly highlight to class division. As a communist replace it with something about being a representative of capitalists or bourgeois

July 23, 2016 - 07:14

Ryan Martinez

Functional, but now especially eye grabbing

Also it's been almost 24 hours since the previous release. Email bomb incoming?

July 23, 2016 - 07:14

Evan Garcia

Or, shit, did they just drop 20k more? I don't know how twitter do

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/756850917098528768

July 23, 2016 - 07:16

Cooper Green

* a populist slogan which doesn't properly highlight the class division of society. It does not show that there are backwards sections of the "99%" either

to use it while being an communist is tailism and reactionary

libcom.org/news/99-problems-03112011

July 23, 2016 - 07:17

Kayden Young

I'm really thinking about voting for Trump. I was hoping that Hilary would at least pick Warren or Booker. At this point I just want to see it burn.

Seriously though, Hilary has finally sunk any and all rumors that she might be pivoting to the left. She's pivoting to the right, and I really don't want her to be President.

July 23, 2016 - 07:22

Samuel Sullivan

Is there really hope?

Pic related.

July 23, 2016 - 07:24

Aiden Rodriguez

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/5740
From:MElias at perkinscoie.com
To: [email protected]/* */, [email protected]/* */, [email protected]/* */, [email protected]/* */

July 23, 2016 - 07:25

Julian Davis

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/6291
From:[email protected]/* */
To: [email protected]/* */, [email protected]/* */, [email protected]/* */, [email protected]/* */

THE SASSANACH KNOW

July 23, 2016 - 07:27

Jeremiah Kelly

Hillary is a biker?
nice palindrom, btw

July 23, 2016 - 07:39

Kayden Long

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
youtube.com/watch?v=3kQWPjKOBaw

July 23, 2016 - 07:57

Robert Allen

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/3773
On bilking some fool to go to a speaking event with Obama

Shapiro, Alexandra

Kaplan, Jordan

ShapiroA

lol

July 23, 2016 - 07:59

Bentley Adams

No, that's the same number as the first leak.

July 23, 2016 - 08:08

Evan Moore

Thanks, that's what confused me. I didn't know if they just broke them up in chunks like that for some reason or were just retweeting to boost the message.

July 23, 2016 - 08:10

Blake Martinez

hows this?

hue

Doing a black and white print, so can't mess with colors. The dotted lines are just so I can see the margins.

July 23, 2016 - 08:13

Juan Evans

They did break them up. They called it a series and that this is part one.

July 23, 2016 - 08:14

Hudson Clark

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13952

Working on how to spin the HVF via medium

July 23, 2016 - 08:18

Anthony Jackson

Perfect

July 23, 2016 - 08:19

Andrew Campbell

Jeff Weaver said they are in fact reviewing the leaks.
I wish I could know what's going through their heads. Everyone on B e r n i e ' s side has been unusually mum.

abcnews.go.com/Politics/emails-released-wikileaks-show-dnc-aid-hillary-clinton/story?id=40815253

July 23, 2016 - 08:24

Oliver Brown

lol it was a joke
How many people already know who porky is? This is for normalfags, remember.

This one's clearer, but it might be a bit too on the nose.

July 23, 2016 - 08:25

Tyler King

Well, they probably didn't expect the evidence to be this clear. They need to figure out their gameplan before saying anything.

July 23, 2016 - 08:27

Matthew Barnes

That article is atrocious.
>>>/gulag/

July 23, 2016 - 08:33

Ethan Bell

Heh

July 23, 2016 - 08:35

Samuel Thomas

Will he double down on his endorsement by calling for reform within the party?

July 23, 2016 - 08:36

Ryan Moore

It depends on if Hillary kept the agents monitoring S█████' grandchildren on retainer or not.

July 23, 2016 - 08:39

Luis Parker

That's what I'm wondering.
If he still endorses her after this, it will be a joke.
He could leave and it would be understandable for most people at this point.
The MSM wouldn't shut up about it, but when have they ever cut him slack?

July 23, 2016 - 08:39

Austin Stewart

Doubling down would be a waste of the money and momentum he has. His supporters would stop taking him seriously.

July 23, 2016 - 08:43

Isaac Ross

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/5056

July 23, 2016 - 08:45

Jacob Adams

bourgeoisie == Jews
Reminder that Hitler was a socialist and did nothing wrong.

July 23, 2016 - 08:45

Zachary Reyes

...

July 23, 2016 - 08:46

Dylan Price

Observation:

Rothschild was denounced by a Zionist as the worst curse upon the common Jew. The Knights Templar were also bankers.

Oddly that stereotype has nothing to do with banking Jews, it's more related to Jewish diplomats used by the Ottomans.

A Rothschild invention only made possible by the staunch anti-Zionist Winston Churchill refusing to accept Jewish refugees.

July 23, 2016 - 08:47

Carson Phillips

what do you guys think about the socialist party candidate, mimi soltisik? is he legit?

July 23, 2016 - 08:48

Michael Wood

Except he's been committed since the beginning to stopping Trump at all costs.

The question for him now is whether he's willing to accept Trump today or Trump tomorrow. Either he fights back and risks splitting the Democratic party and enabling a Trump victory, or he sells out and destroys his "movement" in order to prevent a Trump election this year.

They also mention in the emails that the Sandman's obstinacy will "hurt his future effectiveness in the senate." So he not only faces the possibility of a Trump presidency if he hurts Hillary, but also being rendered completely impotent in the senate as well which has been the main way he's tried to effect meaningful reform, or at least minimize as much harm as possible.

July 23, 2016 - 08:50

Dylan Collins

...

July 23, 2016 - 08:50

Jonathan Ross

Needs more porkies

MORE

July 23, 2016 - 08:51

Kevin Gonzalez

Techcrunch is the only one of those with a shred of credibility on this subject. The other three have been on the anti-GG bandwagon since day 1.

July 23, 2016 - 08:51

Brody Collins

At this rate he's better off ditching the party. Who will be left to stop Trump if he shacks up with them?

July 23, 2016 - 08:52

Oliver Diaz

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/3131
>BERN AFTER READING: A meme making its way around the Internet does not tell B████ ██████ supporters how to make glowsticks, but rather chlorine bombs. Yikes. (Mic) go.politicoemail.com/?qs=34c19e191b5ac31df04d628852984d73f4954f90ea26cd9970f210f788c8d556

The Knight Templars were Jews ofc.

July 23, 2016 - 08:55

Owen Ramirez

Young white people rarely vote either way.

On the other hand, Trump is losing what little minority support the GOP had going for itself, especially among blacks and Hispanics. Clinton can lose well over half the white vote and still easily come out on top.

Minority support (or lack thereof) is what fucked over B████, and it's very likely to fuck over Trump.

July 23, 2016 - 09:00

Benjamin Sanchez

That's exactly what Hillary is, she's not even attempted to hide wall street speeches. Kaine's and Hillary's records are public. Typical Holla Forumsyp, you reach for fruit so low its on the ground and pat yourself on the back as if you're batman.

July 23, 2016 - 09:02

Gabriel Jones

If he was going to ditch he'd have done so a while ago.

Considering that these emails don't directly implicate Hillary, but the DNC and the DWS, S█████ will call for stringent reform in the party apparatus, and mainting his endorsement will be based around this.

Hillary will be forced to make subsequent concessions in exchange.

July 23, 2016 - 09:03

Noah Campbell

you got it fam

Does porky scan for you?

July 23, 2016 - 09:05

Adrian Fisher

i don't have a smartphone but that's brills yo

July 23, 2016 - 09:06

Chase Cox

>lol
YOU'RE MAKING THE PAIN EVEN WORSE!

July 23, 2016 - 09:09

Alexander Anderson

But the DNC HATES OUR GUTS. Every e-mail about us is nothing but vitriol. They might decide to just fuck concessions and try to win over Republicans instead.

July 23, 2016 - 09:11

Michael Thomas

I'm only laughing not to cry user

July 23, 2016 - 09:17

Jason Moore

Ironically S█████ saw the greatest amount of Republicans switching in the primary just so they could vote for him.

July 23, 2016 - 09:20

Julian Cruz

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/8889
Daniel Strauss of politico conferring with Mark Paustenbach about the S█████ campaign and Nevada

July 23, 2016 - 09:22

Luis Peterson

This like their go to answer for everything.

July 23, 2016 - 09:23

Christopher Perez

No, Jews just had a limit on their careers due to laws against them owning land.

Crusaders just liked to bank due to similar needs.

Oppression of pre-19th century Jewish banking is the same as oppression of crusaders, as neither form of money lender was well loved.

July 23, 2016 - 09:41

Andrew Walker

Don't you fucking remind me that S█████ was the second coming of Jesus. The damn Judases at the DNC crucified him and were drawing lots for his voters until this shit hit.

July 23, 2016 - 09:51

Xavier Brown

He touches clowns.
Rule number 1: Don't touch the clowns

July 23, 2016 - 10:36

Nolan Perry

...

July 23, 2016 - 10:40

Levi Nguyen

Opinion discarded.

July 23, 2016 - 10:45

Parker Gutierrez

Protestors were outside being loud as fuck during a DNC rule meeting at Philadelphia.

periscope.tv/demandprogress/1OwxWvbZwpqJQ

July 23, 2016 - 10:53

Christopher Lee

Do you even know where you are?

July 23, 2016 - 10:58

Austin Parker

...

July 23, 2016 - 11:10

David Torres

Holy shit.
They're pissed.
Are they locking out the delegates?

July 23, 2016 - 11:10

Nicholas Scott

This needs to be spread to Hispanic groups.

July 23, 2016 - 11:13

Liam Taylor

I can't hear a fucking thing they're saying.

July 23, 2016 - 11:14

David Morgan

I have no idea.

The police forced them out of the building after threatening to arrest them a couple of minutes after I posted it. I'm trying to find another feed outside the building since they are still there.

July 23, 2016 - 11:17

Owen Reed

I kind of wish Jeff Weaver would run for office.

July 23, 2016 - 11:23

Lincoln Nelson

Sign user here. Will be using Periscope as well. Should I post the link here when I do?

July 23, 2016 - 11:25

Liam Parker

Yes, please do

July 23, 2016 - 11:27

Ayden Davis

fuck off retard

July 23, 2016 - 11:36

Landon Gray

yaeh dawg

July 23, 2016 - 11:37

Liam Ortiz

I'm Hispanic. Most my family is independent tho.
I could use this to convince the others to be independent tho

July 23, 2016 - 11:42

Jack Collins

Holla Forums, I presume, or is this lefty/pol/ hour which is basically every hour?

Eat shit, Holla Forumsish fellow traveler.

July 23, 2016 - 12:02

Oliver Parker

...

July 23, 2016 - 12:03

Luis Peterson

wikileaks.com/clinton-emails/emailid/19114

:^)

July 23, 2016 - 12:28

Justin Cooper

wikileaks.com/clinton-emails/emailid/2102

:O

July 23, 2016 - 12:32

Lucas Howard

>STATE DEPARTMENT EMAILS

July 23, 2016 - 12:34

Blake Lewis

That doesn't explain why industry was collapsing so badly that massive public works programs and price controls were necessary to restore full employment, nor why such measures were instituted alongside harsh import duties and cuts in immigrant quotas that further restricted the labor supply.

Read about the Age of Colonialism, the sheer scale in commodities and human bodies being shipped around the far corners of the world with utter ruthlessness was mindboggling. Even before that, remember the way (admittedly much smaller) pre-feudal empires worked, shifting around entire conquered nations for political reasons and completely draining resources from them.

It certainly accelerated and amplified things, but it did not cause it.

Fair enough, but while I disagree with a lot of his public overemphasis on objectively tiny factors (foreign-owed American debt, really!?), even he points to the intentional sabotage and destruction of 1st-world labor movements and their ideological allies within the government and business establishments as a political institution prior to the 1970s as absolutely crucial to the rise of neoliberalism.

Also, he seems to be in agreement with both of us that the use of the 3rd-world for arbitrage is an unsustainable and apocalyptically unstable relationship. In that light, both the tiny hiccup I see and whatever global depression you predict from killing it by legislative fiat would be roses and cupcakes compared to what happens if we continue to sustain it.

Durable and nondurable consumer goods amounted to only $3.9T, which is only 21% of GDP. Also as I noted before, imports are much smaller than commonly believed, so imported consumer goods are just $559B of that.

It's true that 1st-world growth today is slower than 3rd-world growth (more for reasons of maturity than anything), but to describe the US as "in decline" (except in a standard of living sense, sigh) is ludicrous. In order for 3rd-world economies to catch up with us (especially backwaters like Brazil and India! I'd pick someone more cash-rich like the Arab petrostates for that argument) would require many decades, well into the 2070s at minimum.

Did you read those links? They all say that Milo is guilty of banter in the 1st degree against someone who was weathering flames that Milo gets the like of constantly, and include quotes from Milo referring to countless infinitely worse things Twatter allows and encourages. It's farcical.

As for their business legitimacy, like I said before, they earn no profits, tiny revenue compared to the huge amount of subsidizationinvestment they've raked in, there are calls to completely subsidize them, they have been used as a tool to fake political phenomena from the start, and even their users (especially "followers" of "influential" figures) are fake:
seekingalpha.com/article/2737265-twitter-shares-are-junk-too
bgordonconsulting.com/twitter-must-reinvent-itself-as-a-public-benefit-corporation/
foreignpolicy.com/2010/06/08/the-twitter-devolution/
nbcnews.com/business/1-10-twitter-accounts-fake-say-researchers-2D11655362

The entire thing is counterfeit from top to bottom.

July 23, 2016 - 12:47

Ryan Nelson

Lawsuits, criminal convictions, fines, jailtime. This leak MUST contain enough to send existing electoral fraud cases into overdrive, even if we can't nab Shillary herself, we can do what we did to Nixon/Reagan and throw so many of her cronies (especially journalists!) in the slammer that the stink of corruption will be undeniable.

This, coming from a Trump advocate?

While it's true there's petty bourgs in the 99% and elite workers in the 1%, 99%/1% antagonism still corresponds overwhelmingly to prole/bourg antagonism in this era of accelerating capitalist inequality. It's the most practical shorthand now for agitprop, really.

CLASS CONSCIOUSNESS AHOY, COMRADE!

…

[REDACTED] just needs to split the party as hard as possible while avoiding as much flak for spoiling to Trump as possible.

July 23, 2016 - 12:47

Camden Garcia

I think we're going to end up with a witch hunt no matter how this turns out. They're gonna try to purge us.

July 23, 2016 - 13:05

Oliver Sanders

come on wikileaks give us the gold

July 23, 2016 - 13:10

Brayden Lopez

smh.com.au/world/us-election/wikileaks-trove-plunges-democrats-into-crisis-on-eve-of-convetion-20160723-gqcamq.html

July 23, 2016 - 13:13

Jeremiah Perez

Does the fire rise, brothers?

July 23, 2016 - 13:14

Thomas Brown

Old news.

July 23, 2016 - 13:14

Jason Turner

Reminder that in a real leftist revolution Nazbols would be the first against the wall.

July 23, 2016 - 13:19

Michael Rodriguez

twitter.com/maryaliceparks/status/756922634974167040

oh boy

July 23, 2016 - 13:20

Andrew Green

The key thing is to maintain popular support. Any witchhunt they conduct would have limited impact on its own just by prejudicing normalfags, but if they're able to drain our numbers and recruitment, that would hurt. I think the fact that Greens failed so badly at capturing downballot wins hurt Nader, for instance, a lot more than accusations of spoilage did (especially given the smugness of "Nader trader" tactical voters among us) at the time.

I think it's bretty low on the habbedig scale, but it has potential.

July 23, 2016 - 13:22

Bentley Morris

Yes, please.

But like before, the DNC will just offer up DWS for the chopping block. That's too little, too late. If people are held accountable, it should be specific people for specific acts.

Glad to at least see that Weaver/someone in S█████ camp actually speaking out on it. Would get it more media attn, too.

July 23, 2016 - 13:33

Juan Anderson

theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/23/hillary-clinton-profile-jill-abramson-us-election-2016
archive.is/mjzVO
DAE think Hillary Clinton is perfect and can do no wrong?

July 23, 2016 - 13:37

Christian Rogers

I don't think DWS will go down without a fight. She made Hillary happen, so why should she fall on her sword for S█████.

July 23, 2016 - 13:47

Jaxon Perry

...

July 23, 2016 - 13:51

Carson Brooks

WHERE ARE THE DAILY LEAKS, LEAKMAN

YOU SAID THERE WOULD BE DAILY LEAKS

July 23, 2016 - 14:54

Luke Flores

Well actually right now they dumped some more DNC emails. No telling if all the leaks will be DNC emails. It is called "Hillary leaks", not "DNC leaks".

Are you kidding? This whole thing is easily "You asked for this" at the lowest.

July 23, 2016 - 15:31

Sebastian Hall

talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/trump-putin-yes-it-s-really-a-thing

uhoh. guise

July 23, 2016 - 15:47

Gabriel Rivera

Detailed responses from the S█████ camp on the leak.

abc7news.com/news/sanders-camp-says-someone-must-be-accountable-for-what-dnc-emails-show/1440084/

July 23, 2016 - 15:49

Ryan Gomez

wikileaks meme game is weak

July 23, 2016 - 16:03

Benjamin Parker

God damn it Jules you're making this whole thing look bad.
twitter.com/wikileaks/status/756987256276131840

July 23, 2016 - 16:07

Austin Johnson

...

July 23, 2016 - 16:10

Cameron Flores

Guys I am seriously worried now. At first I was kind of concerned when someone pointed out the lack of details on the Republicans. But now Julian is doing alt-right signaling (and even describing what he's doing with the "Tribalist symbol" phrase).

July 23, 2016 - 16:19

Ayden Murphy

The glaring incompetence of the human shall be why we shall rise.

July 23, 2016 - 16:19

Zachary Gomez

Not an ayy lmao btw, just the next step in our evolution.

July 23, 2016 - 16:20

Samuel Price

twitter.com/KeithOlbermann/status/756926893178380288

July 23, 2016 - 16:23

Jack Johnson

I think it was a legit mistake tbh. You can't expect everyone to know every meme. Lack of Repub corruption leaks is probably because Putin's deployed hackers to destroy Hillary because he lubs trump so much
see

July 23, 2016 - 16:25

Sebastian Carter

No, it’s not.

A vote for John Politician is a vote for John Politician. Even if that politician stands no chance of winning its not a vote for anyone but that one. Anyone saying otherwise is trying to make a sell. They’re making a pitch, and I consider it tantamount to coercion. Ultimately they are trying to persuade you into voting for their candidate, and this stupid shit goes on with both major parties. This is made plain by the popular hashtag campaigns saying “anyone but Trump” or “never Hillary.” A sort of inter-party policing of votes using fear of the other side winning to herd votes into a particular politician’s favor.

Same goes for people who abstain from voting. A right is one that we can choose to exercise and it’s crucial to remember that distinction. I don’t have to speak against the government even if the government can’t jail me for it. I don’t have to own a gun even if I’m at liberty to do so. And I don’t have to vote even if I am able. If no candidate seems suitable to me or I disagree with the system as a whole or how it’s being operated, then I can and will stay home. And yes, I can complain about the elected candidate because I am a citizen of this country and it’s our muh privilege to do so. We work and pay taxes that pay for all of this. If I can’t complain because I didn’t vote, then the people who voted and whose candidate lost also can’t, because we did the same thing. We made a decision that was overruled by majority, but we at least know we didn’t have a hand in making the situation worse by risking putting in a candidate we had no faith in.

Some of us don’t want the lesser of two evils. We want no evils. We have exercised our right just as fully in abstaining as one can by voting.

July 23, 2016 - 16:27

Blake Green

having wrongthink opinions will give Trump more power! Fall in line or else democracy™ will collapse!

July 23, 2016 - 16:27

Brody Cook

I love how every time I see someone try tp make the Nader/3rd party spoiler argument(and resent it as fact), I see someone calling it out, now. I always do when I see it being presented.

Btw, I screenshotted your comment
Whenever I see the argument made well I save it nowadays. It gets tiring making the argument so often, so it's for convenience.

July 23, 2016 - 16:37

Charles Kelly

Everything he says is exactly how I feel about HRC

-principles

July 23, 2016 - 16:37

Dominic Thomas

Typos.. I need sleep & have a stuck keyboard, sometimes.

July 23, 2016 - 16:40

Benjamin Reed

Get a front row seat to the end of the 4th world, fams!

July 23, 2016 - 16:40

Isaiah Wood

Please make a compilation when you get enough.

July 23, 2016 - 16:40

Adam Parker

Will do

July 23, 2016 - 16:41

Eli White

...

July 23, 2016 - 16:44

Carson White

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/jewish-question/index.htm

Pay particular attention to the distinction between civic and political freedoms as part of the American democratic process.

July 23, 2016 - 16:51

Jordan Johnson

That picture (the chart) is complete bullshit. It places B████ as center-left. And Hillary Clinton is way off, like her or not.

He apparently deleted the tweet. Seriously though, it's alarming how many liberal shills on Twitter have the echo in their username and black-rim glasses.

July 23, 2016 - 16:59

Grayson Campbell

B-but B████ isn't on that chart.

July 23, 2016 - 17:07

Henry Cox

Some comments from the article:

"Someone does have to be held accountable," Weaver said during an interview with ABC News. "We spent 48 hours of public attention worrying about who in the [Donald] Trump campaign was going to be held responsible for the fact that some lines of Mrs. Obama's speech were taken by Mrs. Trump. Someone in the DNC needs to be held at least as accountable as the Trump campaign."

Weaver said the emails showed misconduct at the highest level of the staff within the party and that he believed there would be more emails leaked, which would "reinforce" that the party had "its fingers on the scale."

"Everybody is disappointed that much of what we felt was happening at the DNC was in fact happening, that you had in this case a clear example of the DNC taking sides and looking to place negative information into the political process.

"We have an electoral process. The DNC, by its charter, is required to be neutral among the candidates. Clearly it was not," Weaver said, responding for the first time to the growing controversy. "We had obviously pointed that out in a number of instances prior to this, and these emails just bear that out."

Another member of S█████' staff, Rania Batrice put it this way: "Everything our fans have been saying – and they were beaten down for and called conspiracy theorists – and now it's in black and white."

July 23, 2016 - 17:16

Ryder Fisher

reddit.com/r/hillaryclinton/comments/4uakgq/evening_roundtable_723/

Really interesting to see what the Hill Shills are talking about. I was surprised to see actual references to the leaks, because when you search the subreddit there's no mention, no posts, lmao.

As expected, many are totally ok & even hope there was some election fraud.

July 23, 2016 - 17:38

Easton Phillips

Literally not an argument.

July 23, 2016 - 17:43

Jayden Reyes

...

July 23, 2016 - 17:48

Nathan Ross

This is a good post.

July 23, 2016 - 17:53

Jose Rogers

shit guise. the rabbit hole go deep

July 23, 2016 - 17:58

Jacob Cook

:O
There goes the black vote.

July 23, 2016 - 18:03

Gabriel Taylor

got a post number or link?

July 23, 2016 - 18:11

Thomas White

wat

July 23, 2016 - 18:12

Noah Phillips

It's clearly a joke you guys. Right?

July 23, 2016 - 18:15

Brody White

I didn't find it searching for Harambe so unfortunately it is

All the 6s should have tipped me off but the hype carried me away

July 23, 2016 - 18:34

Bentley Gutierrez

Been away for some days so I'm tardy to the party. CAUTION what follows is a rant.

I'm curious how the Clintonites are handling these facts of DNC corruption. It's no longer speculation but fact. How can they still be supporting her? And before it can be retorted with idpol, well how they can they claim that when she's selected an >old white male to be her running mate? How can they continue to believe she's some progressive champion?

And for B████crats, has this reinvigorated them? Can we expect any surprises at the convention?

July 23, 2016 - 18:41

Ryan Baker

"You can't prove it! You can't prove anything!"
or
"So what? It wasn't illegal/wrong/it's done get over it."
or
"These B████ Bros need to stop being such sore losers."

There does seem to be a sense of vindication and anger especially after months of being called sore losers/conspiracy theorists and so on, but things kind of seem to be at a very low simmer.

July 23, 2016 - 18:48

Xavier Sullivan

You fools. Do the math

July 23, 2016 - 18:53

Cooper Young

Facebook is blocking all wikileaks urls

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/757032595771236352

July 23, 2016 - 19:08

David Martinez

JUST FUCK MY CAMPAIGN UP

July 23, 2016 - 19:18

Matthew Richardson

Man, the convention is gonna be fun.

July 23, 2016 - 19:21

Landon Sanders

What's his endgame?

July 23, 2016 - 19:25

Robert Torres

presidency

July 23, 2016 - 19:27

Ryan Ward

retirement

July 23, 2016 - 19:28

Daniel Jackson

global FALC

July 23, 2016 - 19:29

Brandon Davis

I just wish there was an email that proved the Clintons shat out Trump on us for their own political gain. That would be the death of the Clintonite regime.

He's gonna be on CNN tomorrow. We'll see then I suppose.

I think people were a bit hard on him for supporting Clinton at all, he didn't really have a choice.

July 23, 2016 - 19:30

Parker Lopez

lol it's real
wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/6087

July 23, 2016 - 19:31

Charles Jones

see

July 23, 2016 - 19:31

Camden Bennett

They're going all out on this censorship. Fucking incredible to see it with your own eyes, even though we assumed/knew it was already going on.

July 23, 2016 - 19:33

Sebastian Taylor

He could have either endorsed her or not gone to the convention. TBH now if he takes it back after the leaks, that's almost more powerful than if he never did it in the first place. I hope he takes a big fat shit on the whole DNC when he gives his speech.

July 23, 2016 - 19:34

Christopher Russell

The same shit happened with GamerGate.

July 23, 2016 - 19:35

Samuel Lewis

Anyone want to guess how long till Twitter bans Wikileaks for one reason or another?

I'm thinking sometime during the convention.

July 23, 2016 - 19:37

Jaxon Clark

Yeah, this isn't anything new. Lovely to see it happening where normalfags can see it, though.

July 23, 2016 - 19:38

Oliver Watson

The burning fire in my belly is returning lads.

July 23, 2016 - 19:38

Brody Fisher

Except only retards care about Gamergate.

July 23, 2016 - 19:40

Cameron Russell

k

July 23, 2016 - 19:41

Lincoln Gomez

Of course you'd post two shitty memes as a response.

July 23, 2016 - 19:43

Charles Cook

...

July 23, 2016 - 19:45

Daniel Hill

What? Do you expect me to care about your opinion or something?

July 23, 2016 - 19:45

Noah Sullivan

why do people bother replying while saying "i dont care" lmao

July 23, 2016 - 19:48

Isaac Thompson

Holy lel

July 23, 2016 - 19:49

Jaxon Gray

I just want to post more vivian tbh

July 23, 2016 - 19:49

Luke Gray

Take it to >>>/leftyb/ you unbearable faggots.

July 23, 2016 - 19:50

Jeremiah Rivera

Post yfw Barnie defends Shillary over the emails tomorrow

July 23, 2016 - 19:50

Lincoln Powell

Nah dude he''s gonna run as an independant.
Or endorse Stein.
Or call for Hillary to step down.

Or all those other things that will happen.

July 23, 2016 - 19:51

Jack Nguyen

Banned for sexism

July 23, 2016 - 19:52

David Butler

You can do that in places where it belongs. Not here, and definitely not this thread.

July 23, 2016 - 19:52

Jonathan Long

Sanders camp has already issued comments.

July 23, 2016 - 19:52

Andrew Morales

You realize you've been saging a cyclical thread right? It's not a downvote.

July 23, 2016 - 19:53

Landon Lopez

What did they say?

July 23, 2016 - 19:53

William Phillips

...

July 23, 2016 - 19:54

Leo Diaz

That someone in the DNC must be held responsible.

July 23, 2016 - 19:55

Cooper Morris

Cyclical threads aren't stickies, and I'm saging because my posts aren't relevant to the thread, you fucking retard.

July 23, 2016 - 19:55

Josiah Rivera

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13886

July 23, 2016 - 19:58

Carson Jackson

i thought those were wordfilters at first

July 23, 2016 - 20:00

Liam Perry

All their "plans" to make Trump look bad have been so stupid.
Besides, Trump could probably go to a KKK rally and spew racist shit and his vote count would remain the same.

July 23, 2016 - 20:05

Josiah Hall

It's in the link I pointed out. Here:
It's a short article. Also posted some of the article here:

July 23, 2016 - 20:29

Cooper Ramirez

LITERALLY THE WATER GATE OF OUR GENERATION

July 23, 2016 - 20:35

Jordan Clark

Daily reminder a vote for a president is a vote for the damnation of your soul

July 23, 2016 - 20:36

Kayden Flores

This is how all state politics works and has worked since 1945 why are you surprised

July 23, 2016 - 20:37

Noah Parker

This has been happening for years, even before your parents were born. It is only now due to Wikileaks do we know what is actually happening.

July 23, 2016 - 20:39

Camden Thompson

Mice voting for what type of cat they want to rule them.

July 23, 2016 - 20:40

Austin Wilson

That's not the point. Do you think Nixon was the first to use the tactics he did? Of course not, but the big difference he got caught. That's why there was a scandal. Not the fact it was the first time it has been done. The problem with the radical left is that they pull this "Well it was always happening" and prance off into the sunset and waste every single opportunity like this. Of course it wasn't, but you have to take the actual evidence when it drops and push it. It's the same when people for the first time pay attention to proof of Corporations money-laundering and manipulation countries in a major story and simply saying "Well guys Capitalism is bad like duh" and then ignore it.

July 23, 2016 - 20:46

Nicholas Sanchez

This.

Take it and confront people with it in their face. They can't just sneer and say >nice conspiracy, where's your tinfoil tsk-tsk.

July 23, 2016 - 20:58

Anthony Walker

He's on the other one they made.

And this is happening why?

I don't think he will. He might. But it's likely that they successfully scapegoat him if Hillary loses. Hell, the Nader narrative has been set in stone even though it had basically nothing to do with him.
Can you imagine, though, if he took his 1900+ delegates and just marched out of the Wells Fargo Complex? Can you imagine how powerful that would be? If he went to the Greens and started agitating for Hillary to drop out as a dangerous fraud and a splitter who will get impeached immediately? If he went to the debates successfully portraying his two opponents as criminals? If he worked with Gay Johnson to siphon votes away from Trump?
Whisper of a meme.

July 23, 2016 - 21:05

Hunter Wright

Who the hell keeps pushing this absolute retard? Is this another Holla Forums subversion attempt or something?

July 23, 2016 - 21:11

Kayden Wilson

He's a fucking idiot, but he's good for us. We need to take votes away from Trump.

July 23, 2016 - 21:13

Brandon Jones

Why do we need to take votes away from Trump?

I don't support the man and neither does much of Holla Forums but what happens to him is really no concern to me. If anything, I want to split HRC's vote between her and Stein for that sweet federal funding to build class consciousness with. Trump has nothing to in this equation.

July 23, 2016 - 21:22

Thomas Lee

This. If the left wants to remain credible, you need to take opportunities like this and slap the evidence in there faces. There are people on other image boards literally going on like "LOL Bun knee lost fare n skware! :^)"

July 23, 2016 - 21:32

Jackson Baker

What's bad for Trump is bad for porky and good for us. Johnson can't win a single state, not even New Mexico, and everyone knows it. What he can do is split the conservative vote, which would make it easier for us to get a majority, since we would have to take a smaller portion of Hillary's vote. Basically, make it less likely for Trump to take a state because of the progressive vote being split.

July 23, 2016 - 21:36

Oliver Turner

Johnson won't split the vote, for one reason: gun control. The SCOTUS seat was left open for a reason, it's the dagger hanging over all libertarians heads. Sure, they can throw away their vote. Then be baited into a Dem leaning SCOTUS.

July 23, 2016 - 21:41

Alexander Gomez

I'm fairly sure most states have laws against running for president as an independent after being part of a major party's primary for so long. He can endorse Stein and stump for her though.

July 23, 2016 - 21:42

Caleb Adams

I dont think running as green is considered independent

July 23, 2016 - 21:44

Ian Cox

For running at all then.

July 23, 2016 - 21:46

Logan Ross

Further info.
ballotpedia.org/Ballot_access_for_presidential_candidates#Requirements_for_independents

So he's already past the deadline for being on the ballot in many states thus its impractical. Like I said he could still support Stein though. I've not read that much on her but a cursory glance has me thinking they're views are pretty close.

July 23, 2016 - 21:52

Adrian Morris

Doesn't apply to presidential candidates at all, actually. Only down-ballot.

You have no idea how many conservatives will not vote for Trump. My mother is one.

July 23, 2016 - 21:54

Colton Edwards

Screw being on the actual ballot when you can be a write-in and everyone will know who you are.

July 23, 2016 - 21:54

Christian Cooper

Yes it does.
ballotpedia.org/Filing_deadlines_and_signature_requirements_for_independent_presidential_candidates,_2016

July 23, 2016 - 21:57

Cameron Stewart

Talking about sore loser laws. Deadlines do, but the write-in deadlines are really late.

July 23, 2016 - 22:02

Lucas Lopez

So? Many more will on pure inertia alone. If Republicans are willing to vote for obstructionism (as they have since 2010), they'll vote for Trump. The vast, vast, vast majority of conservatives will vote for whoever has the -R next to their name. But even then, that's not my point. Libertarians, people who tend to own guns, will vote for Trump because they do not want to toss the SCOTUS.

Also let's not forget about who your mother is: a white boomer homeowner. She's the exact type of moderate Hilary is tailoring her entire message towards. Same for Romney in 2012.

July 23, 2016 - 22:04

Chase Lewis

Trump is going down in flames, dude. The RNC is always the peak of the party's organization, and it was a shitshow.

Deep down, gun nuts realize nobody wants to take their guns away. The "assault weapons ban" ideas are stupid, but none of those will go through anyway.

Assumptions again. She's Hispanic and 55. She hates Hillary.

July 23, 2016 - 22:07

Robert Torres

He has no chance of winning as a write-in candidate. People fuck up on ballots all the time due to not understanding how it works. Not sure why you are so attached to S█████ over Stein.

July 23, 2016 - 22:07

Landon Bell

Trump isn't going down, at all. The GOP went down in flames in 2008 because of Dubya. They've gone full retard with every single election since and have only found success. They went from being entirely locked out of the federal government in 2009, to running both houses of Congress and all swing states (except Colorado and Virginia).

In this time, people like Scott Walker successfully stripped Unions of their power in otherwise blue states (Wisconsin and Michegan) and not only retained their position, but also retained their entirely GOP government. The GOP are on a huge roll because the Democrats don't have their priorities straight. Same shit happened in the late 70s which culminated in the Reagan takeover.

You've never actually been to a gun store, have you? California this year banned bullet buttons, Massachusetts's AG last week banned all new "assault weapon" sales, and wants a full semiauto ban. California's Lt Gov, Gavin Newsom, has indicated a similar desire. NYSAFE has been law for three years, which was the same time CT banned AR15s and required registration or confiscation.

My point is, there is plenty of fuel for these people and yes they do honestly believe their guns are going to be taken away if they do not act.

Right there: she's hispanic. She was never a Republican, so your opinion here is invalid.

July 23, 2016 - 22:18

Noah Barnes

Easy. Ads explaining how it works.

Because S█████ can win and Stein can't.

July 23, 2016 - 22:18

Evan Hall

Oh you sweet summer child
Also:
you did it wrong

July 23, 2016 - 22:19

Tyler White

In fairness Clinton has been very explicit about wanting to take guns away. Remember her slamming S█████ for not supporting people suing gun manufacturers over crimes committed with guns?

July 23, 2016 - 22:24

Hudson Martin

I honestly don't find any of the points made by Trump supports he'll win entirely convincing at all. They fail to take in any sort of demographic to account for.

Trump is over 60% negative with women. That's record breaking shit. We hate his ass. That's one possible election caller. The second is minorities collectively. Trump has a 1% approval rating with the black vote, and the Hispanic vote is hardly better. Asians hate him. Literally everyone hates him besides the people you would typically stereotype as voting for Trump.

Now, you could say "B-B-B-BUT WHITES ARE A MAJORITY!" and that would be true but the idea whites would universally vote for a single candidate out of their whitness is absurd. A majority of white Americans, however small a 10 odd point difference is, is still a difference. This fractures the white vote into different demographics more than other races.

On top of this a lot of whites sat out for the 2012
election, there is no reason to suggest they won't here and have that vote overridden by the vote of people who despise him.
I'm not Hillary Clinton, I fucking hate her and I hate the fuck government. I'm saying you're just stupid for thinking Trump will win at this point.

The only reason you think Trump could ever possibly win is because you're on the internet too much and Stormfront is out strutting this election, giving the illusion echo chamber and paid marketing is actual consensus.

He won the primaries within his own demographic but he will fail the general simply because he's alienated everyone.

July 23, 2016 - 22:25

Henry Sullivan

*I'm not a Hillary Clinton voter

Freudian slip

July 23, 2016 - 22:26

Grayson Phillips

If your mother is actually hispanic, unless you live in Texas there is a 99% chance she has always voted Democrat. The only reason hispanics vote GOP in Texas is because Texas is a former mexican province.

It's part of the larger Republican strategy. At the very least, it gives them a base to work up from. Remember how I said Republicans stripped the power of Unions in states they control? I wasn't joking. Right-to-Work laws decimate their ability to make money. This translates directly into Democratic campaign performance, as Unions are their field agents. All Trump needs to do is be a "fresh face". That's good enough for most people (except nonwhites like your family, who will either not turnout or vote Dem anyway).

July 23, 2016 - 22:30

John Allen

He's failed. He can't win back the demographics he's alienated. For example, he'll never get the vote back from women. Now, women are half the country. If you fuck up with that and over 50 percent don't want anything to do with you, it's probably over before it began. Not considering the other demographics, other factors themselves.

It might be a close election, but Trump won't win. We'll get another boring dumbshit like Obama.

July 23, 2016 - 22:34

Angel Nguyen

Bingo. She lives in Texas. But that actually doesn't have anything to do with it, she's just an evangelical from Puerto Rico.

I get that Republicans are killing it down ballot, but the demographic situation makes it seem more and more unlikely for a Republican to win, especially Trump, probably ever, unless there was tons of vote splitting and other issues.

July 23, 2016 - 22:34

Cameron Reyes

Romney is a Mormon, one which created the bill which the ACA was modeled on. Likewise, Obama had incumbency advantage and the Snowden affair had not happened yet. The DNCleaks (which happened yesterday) had not occured either.

Not a problem when the other side can't put together an alternative. Democrats won't turn out, and Trump will win by pure attrition. There are only two states in play: Ohio and Pennsylvania. He wins there, he gets 270 and becomes President. Remember 2000?

July 23, 2016 - 22:34

Camden Hughes

see my point here

July 23, 2016 - 22:36

Anthony Miller

I think you're forgetting Virginia will probably go blue.

July 23, 2016 - 22:36

Jaxon Foster

Again, this has nothing to do with voting reasoning.

It has everything to do with voting demographics as they are

Not a problem when the other side can't put together an alternative. Democrats won't turn out, and Trump will win by pure attrition.

The problem is they will. Trump is currently bleeding voters who are registered conservatives to Johnson. And many conservatives will sit this out.

Again to be replaced by the vote of color.

He won't win there. This problem is pan-state.

July 23, 2016 - 22:39

Noah Davis

270towin.com/

Even assuming a Dem washout in Virginia, Nevada, Arizona and Colorado Trump would still win by 3 votes if he can get OH and PA. Though I'd argue that MI and WI will flip, giving him a 29 vote lead.

July 23, 2016 - 22:39

Easton Turner

Fuck I meant to only red text that one thing I'm drinking too much wine

July 23, 2016 - 22:39

Hunter Ross

Gotcha

July 23, 2016 - 22:40

Evan Ward

Yes it does. Baptists wouldn't vote for him. We are talking about Republicans, after all.

Which, as I've established, is a load of BS thanks to the open SCOTUS seat.

July 23, 2016 - 22:42

Aaron Anderson

Baptists are irrelevant to the problem Trump has 60% of women gone and 1% of the black vote. Perhaps less as time goes by.

You're assuming the American voting public gives a shit and this isn't an issue of demographics.

July 23, 2016 - 22:45

Charles Ward

People made the exact same prediction about the GOP in 2010. That they would never ever win Congress again. Look who's laughing now?

I'm not a Republican or Trump supporter either, but let's get real here: he's winning. Ten years ago if I walked up to a voter and asked "what do you not want to see on the ballot" they would immediately answer Hilary or Jeb. Trump has slain the neocon monster, and thus can beat the Democrats at the populist angle. Meanwhile Hilary is now going to be eaten alive by S█████fags because of the email leak.

July 23, 2016 - 22:45

Xavier Price

we were talking about Romney here

Gun control is an issue libertarians care about. Which is why they will readily vote for Trump.

July 23, 2016 - 22:46

Aaron Hall

Quinnipiac is one of the worst polling organizations I've ever seen.

July 23, 2016 - 22:48

Landon Allen

Sorry anarcho-fem but Trump is going to win. It's been a horrible year for Clinton. S█████ would beat him, but the DNC would rather loose than run S█████.

July 23, 2016 - 22:49

Joshua Wood

See the problem here is exactly what you said. It was expected but it wasn't. Here it isn't.

And Americans aside from those passionate don't care about congress as long as the President is there, they're uneducated in that way.

The presidency is a whole other beast.

He's winning a demographic of the white vote. A large one.

In the long run, they don't matter in this fractured election.

I'd like for you to find a reliable alternative. Oh right they all say the exact same thing.

Again as I've said previously in the game of demographics they don't care. If Trump is bleeding voters he's bleeding voters in an election he's alienated that's all there is to it.

There is no argument to be had. The numbers speak for themselves.

Why do you think I give a solid fuck about Clinton or S█████.

I'm saying that you're ignoring the point and not actually thinking. This is a joke.

July 23, 2016 - 22:51

Gabriel Hughes

You're the joke. The right wing doesn't get int because people vote them in. They get in because people are demoralized and stay home and vote. Which is what is going to happen this election.

July 23, 2016 - 22:53

Andrew Baker

stay home instead of voting*

July 23, 2016 - 22:53

Daniel James

Let's break it down then:

- hispanics (already solid dem voters, also suffer from low turnout due to being poor nonwhites)
- blacks (already solid dem voters, also suffer from low turnout due to being poor nonwhites)
- women (though, only 60-70%. The nominal split is at 50% so this is fixable)
- muslims (less than 1% of the population)

Meanwhile in aggregate Trump's polling is tied with Hilary, as expected. Again all this will come down to Ohio and Pennsylvania, where they are tied:

realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/oh/ohio_trump_vs_clinton-5634.html
realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/pa/pennsylvania_trump_vs_clinton-5633.html

(ignore the NBC poll, as the emails indicated that they're working with the Dem politburo)

he is also almost tied in Michegan and Wisconsin:

realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/mi/michigan_trump_vs_clinton-5533.html
realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/wi/wisconsin_trump_vs_clinton-5659.html

July 23, 2016 - 22:55

Dominic Collins

Not to argue here, but largely white demographics stay home in extreme elections while minorities and women do not.

So get ready to see a bunch of angry Holla Forumsyps demanding women and those evil niggers should have never been given voting rights and a lot of crying.

All in all you should be encouraging this just for that alone. The Holla Forumsyp crying.

July 23, 2016 - 22:56

Michael Bennett

True, it's where running a fresh face and being a moronic populist is important. Trump is exactly this while Hilary is a punching bag.

July 23, 2016 - 22:56

Henry Price

You can try to crunch the numbers all day the problem is still self evident. The simplest answer is usually the correct one.

July 23, 2016 - 22:57

Oliver Gutierrez

What's an "extreme election"? White turnout rates are always higher than nonwhite ones if only due to economic factors (whites make more money and can take off time to work to actually cast their ballot). This is one of the biggest factors in American elections and is why otherwise diverse states are run by retarded Republicans.

July 23, 2016 - 22:58

Ryder Nguyen

Again, for a certain demographic. Who if we look at things, that dumbshit rhetoric isn't working for anyone else.

Why are we all so adamant to give a shit about Trump winning or not either? Nobody should give a shit about either candidate and people coming out of the word work to say "N-N-N-NO TRUMP WILL WIN I PROMISE" is extremely dubious.

July 23, 2016 - 22:58

Eli Flores

One where the black support for a candidate is at 1%

July 23, 2016 - 22:59

Jacob Morales

You're right: the self evident problem is that nobody wants another political dynasty. 10 years ago people could have told you that they would never vote for Hilary Clinton. Any other candidate could have probably beat Trump, especially S█████. Instead the Democrats fucked themselves over.

The only saving grace is that IF the superdelegates stage a coup due to the email leak, and go for S█████ at the convention. But that's just wishful thinking on my part and is not going to happen. Though, S█████ could pull a Cruz and destroy Hilary right there. He's normally an Independent, so he has nothing stopping him.

July 23, 2016 - 23:00

Nolan Moore

I want to see the crying polyp. But people are disenfranchised. The S█████ supporters are going to stay home, while the Clinton supporters will come out. I want to remind you: Trump beat many candidates with a high GOP voter turnout, Clinton barely beat S█████ with a low voter turnout.

July 23, 2016 - 23:02

Jayden Scott

Then why are you voting for someone who would inevitably want a Trump Jr presidency. Please

July 23, 2016 - 23:02

Christian Stewart

Then how did Nixon get elected? Or Reagan or Dubya? Blacks don't vote and are only 10% of the population.

July 23, 2016 - 23:03

Isaiah Watson

She actually beat him in a land slide in important states due to her locking in the black vote.

July 23, 2016 - 23:03

Christopher Cruz

You act like 10% is insignificant or that voting conditions were the same as they were in the 20th century. Example, primaries with Clinton

July 23, 2016 - 23:04

Parker White

Because that's just a fantasy on your part. Right now the choice is solely and only between Trump or Clinton 2.

July 23, 2016 - 23:04

Adrian Carter

Primary demographics are different than general election demographics. You said so yourself earlier in the thread. The type of black voter that knows how to register for a primary is usually much more affluent than one that votes in the general.

July 23, 2016 - 23:05

Brody Torres

She beat him by a lot in the Primaries, not Caucus's. When the independents could vote they were very close. The reason is because a lot of independents would rather vote Trump than Clinton.

July 23, 2016 - 23:05

Cooper Baker

Considering the demographics, which are seperate totally from voting reasoning, people want Clinton 2. Why are we arguing which piece of shit is going in the porcelain toilet?

I find it dubious how many people are willing to argue on Trump's behalf when there's no real solid reason to if nobody here gives a shit about Trump or Clinton.

July 23, 2016 - 23:05

Angel Rivera

Which is why Trump is going to lose.

That was in say, May or June. Now Trump is bleeding into Johnson and Hillary the same and Jill Stein.

This makes up for the point where women and colored voter hate the absolute fuck out of Trump voting for Clinton.

The primary pool was bled on either side, the election close, Clinton victory.

July 23, 2016 - 23:07

Robert Stewart

What? People are arguing on his "behalf" because we know Clinton is going to fail. She's not ahead of him in polls that poll everyone. There's a menial difference. It's not that we want Trump to win. It's that we know Clinton can't win. It's been scandal after scandal. If they pick S█████, Trump will be beat. Clinton is the only candidate that I don't think can beat Trump.

July 23, 2016 - 23:07

Nathan Taylor

If you think you "know" Trump is going to win in an election this volatile while not addressing my points besides arguing voter motivation and ideological difference, I don't really see how you could know.

It seems to me that the election will be close, but not only will the hysteria of this election contribute to the establishment candidate, but the electoral college will also be on Clinton's side considering her neocon support.

July 23, 2016 - 23:10

Dominic Murphy

No they don't. Demographics directly reflect the polls that are derived from them. This is why Clinton has a huge lead over Trump in California, but Trump has a huge lead over her in Wyoming.

Though, taking the US as a whole 50% will at any given time want a generic -R, while 50% will at any given time want a generic -D. So again, pure attrition. This is where the GOP shines.

Because I'm not a moron. The GOP, after getting fucking ruined in 2008, went back and did their due diligence. Every state they won, they passed laws to make it harder for Democrats to raise money or vote (right-to-work laws and voter ID laws). At every chance, they successfully exploited the Democrats' priority misalignment for their own gain. They have built a base that is energized, and ready to tear up whatever they are sicced upon. It's easy to see how someone like Trump could easily walk in and step on Jeb. He will do the same against Hilary, because Hilary is just another has-been stodgy bureaucrat that people don't like.

It's brilliant electioneering and many books will be written on it, like has already been done with Reagan. And I'm willing to bet $50 that the email leaks were somehow caused by a Republican.

July 23, 2016 - 23:14

Ayden Davis

Trump is going to lose and you're all going to look rather silly

July 23, 2016 - 23:19

Elijah Gonzalez

You're pretty much wrong about everything. So I wouldn't hold my breath.

July 23, 2016 - 23:20

Dylan Williams

The polls don't show this huge difference between the two. It is marginal and closing. Voter motivation is important. Trump isn't stupid, he made Jeb Bush look like a moron and then he did it over and over again to every other GOP candidate.

Like the GOP knows what it's doing. The GOP didn't get ruined by Trump - it got ruined by Mccain and Romney. They were old white dudes, they fit the stereotype of what a conservative is and that's meant to be derogatory. Obama was a cool black dude, he was a good speaker he was energizing and he was refreshing. Clinton is none of those things. I don't why you think the independents are going to vote for Clinton, they're more likely to go Stein or Johnson. And Trump has way more appeal to lolberts than Clinton to a leftist.

July 23, 2016 - 23:21

Julian Reed

Leftypol spends more of its time trying to wonder if it can persuade Holla Forums posters to post on Holla Forums so likewise I don't think I can vouch for your capabilities.

July 23, 2016 - 23:22

Kevin Cruz

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July 23, 2016 - 23:24

Carter Taylor

...

July 23, 2016 - 23:28

Luke Torres

What do you mean? They fit the conservative stereotype of an out of touch old white dude who cares more about money than anything else. I should've been more clear, they didn't have the tenacity of Trump. They didn't have the rhetoric and to top it off, they fit the stereotype of a conservative in everyones mind. Trump, no matter what you want to say about him is nothing like the candidates we've been getting for the past 16 years from the GOP.

Trump reinvigorated the GOP. Only now they're a fascist party.

You don't argue. wrote out a detailed response and all you said was "YOURE GOING TO LOOK RATHER SILLEY". There's a reason you got into the final round of cancerous flags, and you're one of the only posters we were judging that off of.

July 23, 2016 - 23:29

Colton Bell

Get used to it.

July 23, 2016 - 23:29

Jose Bailey

I care less about American politics than I care about this board, so I don't think I'm going to argue with someone who was autistic enough to actually engage in a poll that drove at least five people off Holla Forums

July 23, 2016 - 23:31

Nolan James

...

July 23, 2016 - 23:32

Luke Perry

There's like, three of us, calm down lad.

July 23, 2016 - 23:33

Nicholas Cox

I'll admit that PA could go either way. 2000 showed us that the candidate that lost both the popular vote and electoral college can still win. Voting machines are electronic, the same type of fuck up is still possible

But even, the GOP have put a lot of safeguards in place. If either WI and MI flip, Trump can loose both OH and PA. And, should a pure tie happen (ie Trump looses PA and FL, but gains NV, WI and MI) the vote goes to the House who will absolutely pick Trump.

July 23, 2016 - 23:35

Christopher Taylor

What are you taking about? If we're not bitching about you retards. Then we're bitching about Holla Forums. The Nazis actually best you for worst shit posters.

July 23, 2016 - 23:39

Kayden Harris

lel

July 23, 2016 - 23:56

Jason Ward

How am I sperging. I see a lot more sperging going on with the men here. You didn't need me for there to be sperg, silly.

July 24, 2016 - 00:04

Henry Garcia

I unironically love the anfem poster

July 24, 2016 - 00:22

Xavier Garcia

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/757109900199723009

"For those facing censorship on Facebook etc when trying to post links directly to WikiLeaks #DNCLeak try using archive.is"

July 24, 2016 - 00:27

Nathaniel Williams

n-not all of us are cunts!

stfu I was the original one and you had to ruin everything with your if-people-get-mad-at-me-it-means-I-am-right attitude.
I'd send you to Tumblr, but Holla Forums seems more appropriate to me.

July 24, 2016 - 00:27

Isaac Brooks

You were hardly the original please.

Besides I don't have that attitude. I argue fine.

As far as I'm aware your contributions of being the house feminist involved talking about how much you wanted to be impregnated anyways

bitch

July 24, 2016 - 00:29

Cooper Cook

What? I've been posting since 2015, which is probably before you even started menstruating, little girl.

July 24, 2016 - 00:31

Nicholas Myers

I actually have a cunt so you don't need to be rude or jealous.

July 24, 2016 - 00:33

Sebastian Price

My 5-years old cousin also has a cunt, so what?
Btw, you're not on Facebook here, so check the fucking trips, you disgusting non-adapting outsider. How did you find us anyway?

July 24, 2016 - 00:37

Josiah Thompson

That's something she has over you.

July 24, 2016 - 00:39

Tyler Rivera

do you congratulate yourself in your dark basement?
Is there something in your life you have done that you can be proud of?
To be honest fam

July 24, 2016 - 00:41

Logan Nelson

Every day in this basement, I have my chalk and I tally every time someone talks about getting came inside for no reason. So far all the tally has come from you.

Because I live in a basement. And you live in an apartment.

July 24, 2016 - 00:43

Carter Hughes

Agreed. Trump is just a buffoon who spouts whatever bubbles to the surface of his mind, perhaps a generic Republican porky with under the hood at worst, certainly no Hitler. Lolberts (and their ilk in other parties like Paul) have a sincere ideological platform which, while utterly laughable in its madness as political pariahs, would terrify me if they were ever placed in a position of real power.

This. Being on the ballot is a good mark of prestige, but [REDACTED] has earned quite a lot of that already.

Pics related

July 24, 2016 - 00:43

Jacob Nelson

Basically visible proof of how shit feminists are

July 24, 2016 - 00:45

Nathan Richardson

Oh, and one more for good measure. Notice unlike the other two, the margin of "victory" in this one is razor-thin.

July 24, 2016 - 00:46

Camden Sanchez

I think you're confusing me with the girl who pretends she get off on being pregnant, not me.

That being said, you're right about voter turn out actually.

July 24, 2016 - 00:46

Cameron Brown

Quit bitching and argue

July 24, 2016 - 00:47

Blake Morgan

Precautionary principle. Unless I see timestamped, keyworded nudes, both of you are dudes.

July 24, 2016 - 00:54

Nolan Gray

Have I hit a nerve?

July 24, 2016 - 00:56

Isaiah Richardson

No but I've hit all of yours shrimp dick

July 24, 2016 - 00:59

Justin Mitchell

I wouldn't call anyone on Holla Forums besides n1x an actual man.

July 24, 2016 - 00:59

Grayson Reed

...

July 24, 2016 - 01:05

Nathan Reyes

👌

July 24, 2016 - 01:09

Luke Perry

flags were a mistake

July 24, 2016 - 01:37

Colton Taylor

...

July 24, 2016 - 01:57

Asher Cook

party left has divisions within divisions

July 24, 2016 - 02:04

Aaron Long

Has anyone in the media thought to ask B████ ██████ why he didn't make the same "conscience" speech as Cruz, and if he will now that the DNC leaks show he's been treated far worse by Hillary than Cruz was by his nominee? A speech standing by the issues he forced on the party's agenda.

Seems the obvious question to ask while Hillary is sitting on top of B████ applauding Cruz on the other side for putting country above party.

July 24, 2016 - 03:00

Kayden Cox

From newsplus thread.
Is it tinfoil? Is it legit?

July 24, 2016 - 03:10

Ian Adams

...

July 24, 2016 - 03:15

Colton Perez

I don't get it.

July 24, 2016 - 03:22

Cooper Green

because right after they were in charge of redistricting in a majority of states and they gerrymandered their way into office

July 24, 2016 - 06:07

Connor Adams

DNC chair won't speak at Dem convention following Wikileaks fallout
edition.cnn.com/2016/07/22/politics/dnc-wikileaks-emails/
archive.is/9FmaC

They are in full damage control/disinformation mode

OOOOH DOZ EBUL RUSHINS!!!

July 24, 2016 - 06:19

Brandon Butler

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/96

>Secondly, and forgive me for even asking, is there any way I can get entry to the Philadelphia DNC? As a sister party member? Long time fan? I will pay, of course, if that is an option - we, the Labour Party (and please accept my apologies for their current appalling transgressions) charge for guests and maybe there is a similiar arrangement. Anyway, I would, of course, love to be there. But also understand if there is nothing you can do and feel overwhelmed with people hassling you!

July 24, 2016 - 06:22

Jaxon Davis

Now is the time B████. The gun is in your hand. Slay the beast.

July 24, 2016 - 07:56

Adrian Diaz

False, Quinnipiac is the only poll that said that the news networks just ran with it.

July 24, 2016 - 08:36

Luis Ortiz

This hasn't been accurate ever since social media became mainstream. Even with Super Secret Clubhouse imageboards like Holla Forums.

July 24, 2016 - 08:37

Carson Stewart

He's probably a Trump voter.

July 24, 2016 - 08:39

Levi Howard

nice watermark dude

July 24, 2016 - 08:45

Adrian Price

twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/757012114460569604
Is this like a dril tweet

July 24, 2016 - 08:45

Dylan King

twitter.com/daveweigel/status/757228956529614848

I wonder if Kansasbro is part of this.

July 24, 2016 - 08:56

Samuel Phillips

What the shit is Assange or whoever is in charge of this account doing

July 24, 2016 - 09:11

Landon Morgan

Assange has clearly gone mad from isolation.

July 24, 2016 - 09:21

Kevin Cox

When are the rest of the emails going to come out? They aren't done already, are they?

I thought he was sitting on a bunch of bombshells that were going to blow the whole establishment wide open?

July 24, 2016 - 09:23

Justin Martin

youtube.com/watch?v=GIl_BNIJcFg

July 24, 2016 - 09:26

Oliver Ward

...

July 24, 2016 - 09:34

Daniel Collins

berniesanders.com/press-release/democratic-rules-committee-passes-reform-commission/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=post&utm_campaign=tw160724

Would you look at that. Suddenly the Dems are pro election reform.

July 24, 2016 - 09:44

Jonathan Smith

...

July 24, 2016 - 09:55

Ethan Morales

You mean the PAID shills?

July 24, 2016 - 10:01

Connor Wilson

does this mother fucker want to lose the election

July 24, 2016 - 10:05

Alexander Taylor

I saw this post, imagined Assange making this face, and am now dying of laughter. I'm actually crying.

July 24, 2016 - 10:11

Dominic Perry

Do you need breaking news at 9.30 to spell it out for you that degenerates are in charge?

July 24, 2016 - 10:13

Joseph Reed

See .

July 24, 2016 - 10:14

Brayden Foster

His votes won't remain the same with the shrinking 40% of women left supporting him.

July 24, 2016 - 10:16

Tyler Roberts

Women's votes only count for half.

July 24, 2016 - 10:17

Gavin Kelly

Ben "One Man Holodomor" Garrison made a cartoon on the leaks.

July 24, 2016 - 10:17

Josiah Lewis

Only a fool doesn't take a demographic that large at over fifty percent "yeah nah fuck this dude to the jaws of hell" as insignificant to an election.

July 24, 2016 - 10:19

Matthew Butler

Good thing it was a joke then you fucking sperg.

July 24, 2016 - 10:21

Evan Bell

Its hard to tell where joke begins and actual political discussion begins on leftypol, my mistake.

July 24, 2016 - 10:22

Jeremiah Perez

I actually wish Assange would go on rants like this from time to time.

July 24, 2016 - 10:27

Cooper Rivera

Sanders: 'Awful' DNC emails should cost party chair her job

archive.is/LKtTR

"She's been quarantined," another top Democrat said, following a meeting Saturday night.

The Book of B████: What is S█████' religion?

July 24, 2016 - 12:40

Robert Martin

Refer to >>806055 and >>806117.

July 24, 2016 - 12:45

Ian Thompson

Fucking thread cycling. I'll repost what I said earlier from those two posts:

1. It weakens the corrupt party duopoly in the United States.
2. It helps the "Libertarian" Party receive federal funding and recognition as an official third party, which helps #1.
3. It siphons votes away from Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, especially the latter, which helps #1 and #2.
4. It bolsters friendly relations between Greens and "Libertarians", which helps the Greens and facilitates #1–3.
5. So long as Gary Johnson's poll numbers remain high, it provides cover for Jill Stein by providing a secondary counterargument against "spoiler" concerns, namely that we aren't really spoiling anything so long as our polling is below or equal to Gary Johnson's. We can, of course, abandon this talking point if Jill Stein surpasses Gary Johnson.

I don't support him either. Gary Johnson and the entire "Libertarian" Party are useful idiots for the bourgeoisie who are so intoxicated by their ideology that they fail to see that they're unwittingly betraying their own class by voting for policies that directly benefit the bourgeoisie. Because they're useful idiots, though, we can use them as a means of undermining Trump (and, to a marginally lesser extent, Clinton) and to bolster the Green Party, albeit indirectly.

If Johnson is allowed into the debates after reaching 15%, he may even advocate that Stein is also included since the Greens and "Libertarians" have worked together in the past to try and combat these exclusionary policies which inhibit third parties. Even if he doesn't, though, it may strengthen the Green case for demanding that Stein is also included, especially if some in the Democratic establishment are stupid enough to believe letting in Stein will help offset Johnson's inclusion.

July 24, 2016 - 12:46

Lucas Martin

DWS IS FUCKING RESIGNING!!

twitter.com/AP/status/757303739334156290

July 24, 2016 - 13:04

Luis Lopez

countdown until Someone writes a think piece claiming that DWS was harassed into resigning
3
2
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July 24, 2016 - 13:07

Christopher Perry

...

July 24, 2016 - 13:08

Jacob Thomas

DNC member killing horses for insurance money. wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/578

DNC making fun of black womans name. wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/17942

DNC telling each other, "I love you too. no homo." wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/425

DNC requesting a pull an MSNBC commentary segment. wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/6107

DNC controlling the narrative with time released stories. wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/12450

DNC conspiring to create false Trump information and release with Reuters. wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7102

DNC Hillary supporters infiltrated S█████ campaign. wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4776

DNC members going to complain to Morning Joe producers about his mentioning of a "rigged system." wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/8806

DNC discussing their relationship with NBC/MSNBC/CNN and how to get better treatment. wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13762

Super PAC paying young voters to push back online S█████ supporters. Paid shills. wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/8351

DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz having an off the record meeting in MSNBC President Phil Griffin's office. wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/8867

DNC being messed with by the Washington Examiner. wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/5304

DNC discussing Hillary's policies as unfeasible. wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/519

$200k for a private dinner with Hillary. wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/17287

Offering to send interns out to fake a protest against the RNC. wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13366

Faking outrage and pasting in a video later. wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7102

A mole working inside of the S█████ campaign. wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7793

Bringing up S█████ religion to scare the southern voters. wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/11508

Possible money laundering by moving money back and forth to bypass legal limits. wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/6230

Politico writer sending his stories to the DNC before he sends them to his editor. wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/10808

DNC feeding CNN the questions they want to be asked in interviews. wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4077

Creating a fake job ad for a Trump business to paint him as a sexist. wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/12803

Hillary funding 2 million dollars in a cooridanted campaign in battleground states to win back the Senate. wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7784

DNC is upset that their "allies" didn't send in protestors so they sent out interns. wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13366

"Clinton Foundation quid-pro-quo worries are lingering, will be exploited in general." wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/8351

$50,000 - Lawrence Benenson. wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/14700

July 24, 2016 - 13:22

Isaiah Morris

Daily Fundraising Report for the DNC. wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/2875

Content & Social Strategy Discussion. wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7512

Re: BuzzFeed and DNC connection. wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/10933

Draft linking news articles about trump to use as negative press. wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7586

Fwd: State Dinner Countdown. wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/1901 Some chick is angry she hasn't been given more stuff from the Obama administration…might be interesting to follow up.

Re: State Dinner Countdown. wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/2946

Tim O'Brien: Trump's Fixation on Inflating his Net Worth is a Cause for Concern. wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4496

RE: May Fundraising Numbers. wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/5615

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7720

Hillary for America Raised $26.4 Million in April, Began May with More than $30 Million Cash on Hand. wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13986

Re: For approval: Trump supporter graphics. wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/788

Press talking points, states Hillary is their candidate, dated May 5, 2016. More of a smoking gun than the ambiguous talk in the emails themselves. wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/fileid/5254/2728

Consultant calling megyn kelly a bimbo. Has PDF attached that says the same. wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/6087

DNC trying to get away with violating the Hatch Act. wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/20148

Democrats using interns to organize fake "protests." wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13830

RE: Action on DNC tomorrow (Immigration Raids). wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/9736

Trump's campaign dwarfed by Clinton's wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/1642

July 24, 2016 - 13:22

Daniel Hill

Why is this a bad thing? I'm sure there are foreigners and foreign corporations donating money to the two parties hoping to influence the outcome too. Actually, this is a bad thing but for some reason it's only a problem to these people when Russia does it.

July 24, 2016 - 13:27

Alexander White

nbcnews.com/storyline/2016-conventions/democratic-national-committee-chief-stepping-aside-after-convention-n615826?cid=sm_fb

Debbie Wasserman Schultz has been ousted as chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee for rigging the Democratic presidential nominating process in favor of Clinton

July 24, 2016 - 13:28

Henry Ramirez

Don't you see? We have to defeat the evil commies and bring freedom to the entire world.

July 24, 2016 - 13:28

Gavin Rodriguez

Here is the most famous one:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Israel_Public_Affairs_Committee

July 24, 2016 - 13:29

Luis Roberts

scary foreigners trying to undermine our quest to spread freedom around the world

July 24, 2016 - 13:31

Carter Peterson

Vice is staunch supporter of idpol neo-liberalism and anti-Russian.

July 24, 2016 - 13:32

James James

"Yes, the DNC did some shit, but y'all know of it thanks to the Russians, and that is somehow bad! Vote Hillary!"

July 24, 2016 - 13:32

Nathaniel Perez

SO IT BEGINS.

It's just a vain attempt to contain the leak. The only people who are buying it are Hillary zombies.

July 24, 2016 - 13:35

Nathan Gomez

Pretty sure they're also the latest Murdoch acquisition.

July 24, 2016 - 13:43

Liam Robinson

Good stuff, user. Saved these.

There's so many stories within stories here.

July 24, 2016 - 13:46

Aaron Hughes

Regarding Trump

DNC's Trump narrative wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/1041

"The digital internet team is continuing the push to show people how dangerous Trump is." wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/10744

They discussed making a Craigslist posts on fake Trump jobs talking about women needing to be hot for the job and "maintain hotness" wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/12803

Regarding B████

Want to know why Morning Joe suddenly did a 180? DWS to Chuck Todd. Topic is about them calling for DWS to step down. "This must stop." wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/10945

"Hey Josh, since the S█████ camp keeps pushing stories about the money laundering, we’re prepping a Medium post from either our CFO or our CEO we want to run by you. It will sharply state that the criticisms are wrong, etc.. basically our talking points in a Medium post format with some extra detail." wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4091

"Making a B████ narrative" wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/11056

On the Kentucky recount wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/5773 thanks to /u/jdllama

On debating B████ in California wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/12440 thanks to /u/biasexposer

"If she outperforms this polling, the B████ camp will go nuts and allege misconduct. They'll probably complain regardless, actually." wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13098

"missed this… S█████ complaining about underfunded state parties, LOL". Thanks /u/mportz

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/6530

DWS private email saying B████'s idea to change DNC is silly and won't be president wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/9999

DNC and Hillary moles inside the B████ campaign wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4776

Trying to get someone to ask about religion at one of B████'s events. Trying to get him to say he's Atheist wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/11508

DNC flagging B████ Democrats or things that threaten HRC. Thanks /u/Yo5yoman2

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/6191

DWS on B████ staying in the race in April: "Spoken like someone who has never been a member of the Democratic Party and has no understanding of what to do" wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/5477)

Calling someone a B████ Bro for wanting to interview DWS about money laundering, which they call "a shit topic". Asks for an interview next week on another topic. wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13319

Media Collaboration

"I think the best reporter to give the news to ahead of time is Greg Sargent at the Washington Post. But, the specific reporter is not as important as getting it to an outlet before the news breaks so we can help control the narrative on the front" wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/11242

CNN collaboration wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4077

This one indicates a CNN political correspondent and PR strategist getting talking points into an article written by Steve Benen of MSNBC wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/11712 thanks to /u/Johnboy1985

More media collusion (Politico) "Vogel gave me his story ahead of time/before it goes to his editors as long as I didn't share it. Let me know if you see anything that's missing and I'll push back." Thanks to /u/PM_ME_OR_PM_ME

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/10808

Democrat Chair DWS called Pres of MSNBC Phil Griffin to stop @Morning_Joe being so sympathetic to S█████ wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13718 thanks to /u/basedOp

Jake Tapper responds to collaboration: sli.mg/rOlZ6y Thanks /u/tsdouglas

Planting stories in the Washington Post wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/8157

DNC wanting to promote pro-Hillary news during primary, discussion of "quietly sharing". (Thanks /u/PM_ME_OR_PM_ME

) wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/8744

July 24, 2016 - 13:49

Angel Moore

GENERAL

"I hate these people so much" - DNC Chief of Finance. Thanks /u/mportz

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/18430

Asking to commit FEC violation wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/25

MONEY LAUNDERING. From Weaver. wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/6230 More on laundering wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/6697

DNC calling O'Malley a joke. Thanks /u/mportz

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13711

"– Last night, Hillary attended two high-dollar fundraisers in New York City. The first, from 6:15 p.m. to 7:45 p.m., was at the home of Maureen White and Steven Rattner. Approximately 15 attendees contributed $100,000+ to attend. Then, from 8:15 p.m. to 9:45 p.m., she went to the home of Lynn Forester de Rothschild. Another 15 people ponied up more than 100K to attend." wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/1238

Money from DNC donation funneled to Clinton campaign wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/6697

Correct the Record's executive director wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4690

"less than 1 percent of the $61 million raised by that effort has stayed in the state parties' coffers, according to a POLITICO analysis of the latest Federal Election Commission filing" wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/1724

To meet Clinton at the convention is $1.7 million to $300k wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/fileid/22280/9807

Asking Burger King to form a PAC wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/999

Targeting Wall Street donors. Thanks /u/Cygnus_X
wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/998 More info: "One big Clinton donor on Wall Street said that Bush donors are prime targets and that 'we're a big tent.' Potential sources of support for Clinton could include people like Jack Oliver, who also served as a top fundraiser for Jeb Bush. Both Johnson and Oliver did not respond to requests for comment.The race for Wall Street cash will be intense."- /u/Cygnus_X

Trading favors with superdelegates. (Thanks /u/PM_ME_OR_PM_ME

) wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/234

DNC members "If he's a good gay, he'll love that this pic is with Kathy griffin." Thanks /u/mportz

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/1042

Huge list of donors wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/fileid/20749/9434

July 24, 2016 - 13:50

Justin Powell

>>>Holla Forums6859255
Back to your containment thread

We don't care about some SJW bs, the obviously bigger story here is the leaks

July 24, 2016 - 13:51

Christopher Reyes

Thanks reddit! No seriously, thanks reddit. They do some good sometimes

July 24, 2016 - 13:52

Dominic Cooper

I emphasized the creditor status of China, and the United States' indebtedness to them, because that is—at least in my opinion—a major factor in the relationship between the two superpowers. The U.S. Government relies on China's credit and if relations go sour, China might cut off that credit and start demanding for the U.S. to pay its debts. If the United States defaults (a crazy scenario even Trump has entertained and suggested he'd consider doing so, though he seems to prefer hyperinflation via printing money ad infinitum instead), that will almost certainly cause global economic collapse. If fact, that might be the end of capitalism itself.

Perhaps, but my position is basically that both paths are unsustainable and pose potentially catastrophic consequences, but the current path we're taking gives us more time to prepare than would any such legislative fiat basically guaranteeing it comes early. Whereas our current unsustainable relations might keep us going for decades or longer, ending them now could prematurely bring the disaster they'd cause, though perhaps not as strongly, while still failing to address the overarching unsustainable relationship between the U.S. and China.

With the current rise in right-wing sentiments and fascism, coupled with a far weaker radical left, economic instability and collapse at this time would be highly inopportune and would likely facilitate and accelerate the growth of the far right, up to and including guaranteeing they would take power. We are already expecting another recession coming within a year; amplifying those deplorable conditions and potentially pushing it into a depression with destabilizing relations with an already precarious China seems to me like something that an accelerationist would promote, not someone interested in trying to improve the immediate conditions of the nationa and international working class.

What I'm saying is that the United States is in decline and will continue to decline from hereon out. We hit our peak in the 20th Century and began waning since the 1970s. It will definitely take many decades for the new core of the capitalists world-system to grow to comparable levels to the United States, but that doesn't mean we aren't declining our way down to meet them. Even bourgeois economists are predicting it: pwc.com/gx/en/issues/the-economy/assets/world-in-2050-february-2015.pdf

July 24, 2016 - 13:58

Cooper Nguyen

?

July 24, 2016 - 13:59

Christian Parker

...

July 24, 2016 - 14:01

Jason Torres

So when are we going to get the rest of these emails? I thought there were supposed to be more yesterday and today?

July 24, 2016 - 14:02

Caleb Thompson

Is she trying to piss off everyone more?

July 24, 2016 - 14:02

Kevin Ward

She's delusional enough to think this will help her campaign

July 24, 2016 - 14:05

Eli Richardson

What "infinitely worse things" and in what way does Twitter allow and encourage them? Milo's actions were in clear violation of Twitter's policy on harassment and inciting harassment. The only way it could have been any clearer would be if Milo literally tweeted: "I am harassing @Lesdoggg and want all my followers to join in. Yes, this is incitement."

The fact that Milo ostensibly experiences the same and worse (which I seriously doubt) is irrelevant in determining whether he violating Twitter policy and thus deserves to be suspended for any such violation.

Thanks for the sources, but all of them are at least two years old. Are there any followups which are more recent? For all I know, Twitter has fixed their shit in the past 2+ years.

July 24, 2016 - 14:09

Kevin Flores

is for .

July 24, 2016 - 14:09

Jacob Foster

It's part of their "emails? What emails?" strategy

July 24, 2016 - 14:10

Caleb Flores

I think the Milo thread is still up. Please take that discussion there. It's hard to follow all the wikileaks stuff with this going on, too.

July 24, 2016 - 14:10

Jonathan Miller

We know.

Someone give a link to this statement. This is too much to believe.. She's having Debbie jump on her campaign - again? This is too much. They're such cunts.

July 24, 2016 - 14:12

Ryan Garcia

There is no facepalm image strong enough to accurately sum up the stubborn stupidity of Hillary Clinton.

July 24, 2016 - 14:12

Ryder Cooper

I'm fine with that. I'll refrain from responding to anymore about that topic and encourage to do the same. I still have the thread (>>798559) open, though it's on page 10 and it would be best to either sage while on it or drop the conversation altogether, since we should probably let that thread die.

July 24, 2016 - 14:14

Dylan Jackson

Oh and thank you for asking with such decorum. That's rare on the chans, despite how effective it usually is.

July 24, 2016 - 14:19

Levi Morris

What are they doing? Why are they letting everyone know about this? This is fucking clear cut corruption and they just show it to the world.

July 24, 2016 - 14:20

Eli Morgan

The joke is, DWS has failed miserably in getting dems elected on downballots the entire time, which is why many dems were ok with sacrificing her regarding all these leaks.

Hillary & DWS are two peas in a fucking pod. Shit at politics, but have the money to do the work for them. Seriously though, what's going on between them? Why does Hillary want such a shit politician on her side? All of it doesn't make any sense.

July 24, 2016 - 14:21

Mason Rogers

Hillary is living in a fantasy world. The DNC has Debbie resign because she's a political liability and Hillary quickly, and very publicly, brings her back into the fold, in an even WORSE position. Hillary might as well have given her a gun and told her to start shooting Congressmen.

Like her Kaine VP pick, she thinks she can run this election the way she wants to and going to cost the Democrats EVERYTHING. They would honestly be better with S█████ at this point.

July 24, 2016 - 14:23

Dylan Fisher

Very welcome. I'm a chick(not the anfem poster, lmao), so that helps with being polite, I think. I always get poked at here for that, but it's needed, especially here. :)

July 24, 2016 - 14:23

Tyler Campbell

At this point why can't an asteroid impact us. Please just end this

July 24, 2016 - 14:24

Kayden Reed

...

July 24, 2016 - 14:27

Chase Ross

Couldn't agree more.

Lmao

It's sad because she can & has been. If these leaks won't take her down, what will? If anything, at least the normies get to see how much their vote really doesn't matter. We all knew it, but it's still frustrating. I like seeing all the others wake up to that fact. Thanks S█████. He really did help with that. We should have a legitimate 3rd party in the future, once the lolbertarians & greens get federal funding.

The DNC is fucked. The RNC was already fucked.

July 24, 2016 - 14:27

Christian King

Trump isn't going to win, don't worry about his bullshit. Hillary is going to win and its going to be its own flavor of awful.

July 24, 2016 - 14:28

Parker Perry

How much do you believe the DNC really impacted the Race? [REDACTED] was always an underdog and even optimistic supporters conceded his candidacy was something of a long shot.

July 24, 2016 - 14:29

Zachary Davis

Pls

July 24, 2016 - 14:29

Henry Turner

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3706004/Democratic-party-chairwoman-Debbie-Wasserman-Schultz-steps-down.html

July 24, 2016 - 14:30

Jason Howard

I'm going to survive the asteroid as well.

Quit pointing out that I exist every time I post, I mean what's the point of that?

July 24, 2016 - 14:31

Andrew Bennett

...

July 24, 2016 - 14:32

Bentley Edwards

I wish there was a filter by flag option.

July 24, 2016 - 14:35

Blake Cruz

UK's second biggest-selling daily newspaper you idiot. Doesn't matter that its right wing.

July 24, 2016 - 14:37

Liam Diaz

...

July 24, 2016 - 14:38

Gabriel Sanchez

lol yeah he's the idiot

July 24, 2016 - 14:38

Mason Taylor

Oh hey, would you look at that? New interim US DNC Chair Donna Brazile is also in implicated in the E-mails.

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7022

It's like nothing's changed!

July 24, 2016 - 14:43

Caleb Perry

From a jew to a nigger.

If a white man was elected chair, you can be sure that he would give B████ the nomination.

July 24, 2016 - 14:45

Brody Cook

Yay! We did it!

July 24, 2016 - 14:46

Juan Brown

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/757330299491606528

>@Facebook says it has unblocked the posting of links to WikiLeaks.org and that the blocking was 'an accident'.

Yeah alright.

July 24, 2016 - 14:46

Cameron Jackson

I bet a lot of them are Irish too!!!!!!!!!

July 24, 2016 - 14:47

Cooper Smith

Because conservative journalists aren't capable of delivering information…

July 24, 2016 - 14:49

Christopher Clark

Only liberal sources that colluded with the DNC in these emails can do that.

July 24, 2016 - 14:50

Grayson Foster

Yes

Also a terrific answer. It's either the Daily Mail or MSNBC, you have to chose the two, you can't actually read the material for yourself when its readily available anyways.

July 24, 2016 - 14:52

Isaiah Martinez

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/757318117391474688

Wikileaks tweeted the statement, too

July 24, 2016 - 14:55

Connor Thomas

lmao, shifty shenanigans

July 24, 2016 - 14:57

Matthew Hernandez

That one poster is correct. Hillary is making Trump stronger. He's going to rip through her like tissue paper over this shit.

July 24, 2016 - 15:00

Joseph Sanchez

Yep. It's a sad day when the DNC has me agreeing with Trump on certain issues. This election is bananas.

The DNC keeps getting less & less credibility.

July 24, 2016 - 15:03

Benjamin Mitchell

Learn these ten weird tips that Frankenstein used to kill his creator!

July 24, 2016 - 15:04

Jonathan King

Friendly reminder that Frankenstein was a vegan.

July 24, 2016 - 15:07

Logan Barnes

*Frankenstein's monster was a vegan

Holy shit, the stupidity is contagious.

July 24, 2016 - 15:08

Christian Flores

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/5246

July 24, 2016 - 15:09

Jason Jones

Frankenstein was obviously the monster's last name you clod

July 24, 2016 - 15:09

Jeremiah Jenkins

Now watch as the Clinton News Networks ignore it.

July 24, 2016 - 15:11

Blake Smith

...

July 24, 2016 - 15:11

Luke Reed

LIBERALS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

July 24, 2016 - 15:15

Charles Brown

...

July 24, 2016 - 15:16

Luis Perry

The website looks ridiculous but I'm loving the attitude.

July 24, 2016 - 15:17

Levi Martinez

Are you really this desperate

July 24, 2016 - 15:17

Evan Brooks

Such revisionism. Next, you're going to tell me his first name was Adam or Deucalion!

July 24, 2016 - 15:19

Ethan Clark

Hilarious dude.

July 24, 2016 - 15:19

Camden Diaz

Actually, CNN did show a bit of the B████ protesters today. They had segments on the DNC email leaks and DWS. At least they don't sweep everything under the rug.

July 24, 2016 - 15:20

Angel Perry

Wew lad

July 24, 2016 - 15:22

Isaac Fisher

At this point, I don't care who's elected.

I could even stomach Trumpist gloating if their "daddy" gets in.

We'll get what we deserve as a species.

July 24, 2016 - 15:26

Lucas Baker

...

July 24, 2016 - 15:26

Daniel Powell

She's terrible, he's terrible.

July 24, 2016 - 15:28

Elijah Lewis

Did you quote me by accident?

July 24, 2016 - 15:29

Leo Hernandez

The entire purpose of the MSM memeing Johnson's numbers up is to draw votes away from Trump.

Really, you don't find anything strange about this being the first election in a decade where third parties haven't been viewed as a joke that stopped being funny sometime in the '60s with the Dixiecrats?

July 24, 2016 - 15:29

Jaxon Roberts

This convention is already an amazing trainwreck and it hasn't even started yet.

July 24, 2016 - 15:29

Michael Edwards

Not an accident. Scorched Earth can be a bit appealing, but we shouldn't contribute to Trump getting the highest office in any way.

July 24, 2016 - 15:30

Ian Gray

I'm not suggesting that we do, but I have lost any sense of hope for the future. I will take the actions necessary to minimally contribute to improving the situation, but I suspect that it's all going to end in horrifying disaster and I am now indifferent to that fact.

July 24, 2016 - 15:33

Samuel Taylor

...

July 24, 2016 - 15:34

Jacob Fisher

I've always been pessimistic, but for some reason had a small sliver of hope deep, deep down. Things got better for me once I moved out of the US. So, I suggest others do it, too. I'm glad I'm not there for this shitshow.

For the most part, I agree with this

July 24, 2016 - 15:36

Benjamin Peterson

...

July 24, 2016 - 15:37

Henry Ramirez

top kek

July 24, 2016 - 15:37

Caleb Rivera

...

July 24, 2016 - 15:39

Brandon Adams

Are you crazy? They'll applaud her as a champion of the party.

July 24, 2016 - 15:39

Leo Parker

She's been pulled from any speaking spots. I think I've heard them say she's been "quarantined" lmao

Still too little too late.

July 24, 2016 - 15:39

Andrew Nelson

...

July 24, 2016 - 15:41

Jeremiah Bailey

This party politicking is getting less & less believable to normies. Good. I don't know who that chick is, but she's making the point for FOX.

July 24, 2016 - 15:41

Charles Bell

"It's just like Game of Thrones"

July 24, 2016 - 15:43

Jacob Wood

Both conventions have smelled like shit.

This country smells like shit.

July 24, 2016 - 15:44

Henry Ross

...

July 24, 2016 - 15:49

Jack Russell

Yeah, but this one is better. You knew the RNC was going to be shit, but the Democrats spent two months trying to sell party unity and almost had it until their own foul deeds came back to bite them.

July 24, 2016 - 15:54

Carter Harris

The mainstream media is incompetent and more interested in pushing their narrative regardless of the facts. Like I said before (which has since been deleted due to thread cycling), both Jill Stein and Gary Johnson alone are poaching votes from Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton at roughly equal rates, according to current polling data. Johnson may appeal slightly more toward the demographics which are most likely to vote for Trump, but there are still millions of centrists, independents, and even disaffected Democrats (including B████ supporters) who would consider voting for Johnson over Trump or Hillary.

I'm fine with the mainstream media pushing Johnson. What I'm more frustrated with, however, is that they're not pushing Jill Stein, as well. They are conveniently ignoring her entirely. As for Johnson potentially siphoning votes from Trump, then good. As far as I'm concerned, a Hillary Clinton presidency at least has the chance of being the marginally better outcome than a Donald Trump presidency. While I'm not going to choose between the two, I negligibly favor Hillary Clinton winning the general election rather than Donald Trump.

July 24, 2016 - 15:55

Jacob Carter

Define "better" if they're both bad for everyone

July 24, 2016 - 15:57

Cameron Jones

It's a bigger disaster.

July 24, 2016 - 16:00

Xavier Howard

Define "bigger disaster" if they're both disasters for everyone

July 24, 2016 - 16:02

Mason Cruz

I think he just means more entertaining

July 24, 2016 - 16:03

Nicholas Rivera

Maybe Hillary and DWS are lesbian lovers?

July 24, 2016 - 16:04

Kayden Edwards

None of this is entertaining. This is horrifying.

July 24, 2016 - 16:05

Jack Wright

You guys don't get it. Both DWS and Hilary are from the Beltway (ie, DC). They seriously think nobody cares about the email leak (beyond the whole gotta hang the traitor Snowden angle) and that it's more important for Hilary to thank DWS for her service.

You think it's bad now? Tomorrow, it's gonna be worse. The convention will be nothing but "fuck the GOP" and zero introspection or reference towards the emails. If they are brought up, then it'll be portrayed as "just another tea party fantasy". S█████ might stand out, if he's got the balls to not endorse her.

July 24, 2016 - 16:06

Jaxson Peterson

You must make a friend of horror. Horror and moral terror are your friends. If they are not, then they are enemies to be feared. They are truly enemies.

July 24, 2016 - 16:09

Ethan Russell

I'm trying to compile a list of specific reasons Clinton is terrible to convince weak supporters (generally low-info people) not to support her. I'm trying to stay in the kiddie pool of leftist/anti-capitalist theory so as not to scare them off or overwhelm them. Here's my list so far:

- She supports Citizens United.
- She supports the TPP. She may veto it but approve of something very similar just to appear like she's not a complete fraud since she retracted her support of it to appeal to dems to her left, but the ultimate effect is the same.
- She supports "free trade" agreements in general.
- She takes a lot of money from and props up the private prison industry (connecting that with the many problems plaguing the black and Latino community, like police brutality and harassment, broken families, etc.)
- She supported the 2009 Honduran coup and has failed to meaningfully address the chaos that followed (proving she doesn't really care about Hondurans or fighting government corruption, only protecting capitalism).
- She supports cluster bombs.
- She's apprehensive about raising the minimum wage to something livable.
- She supports fracking.
- She hasn't taken a serious stance on combating climate change.
- She opposes meaningful (lmao) Wall Street regulation.
- She publicly opposed marriage equality until it became politically expedient to support it.
- She's buddy-buddy with Henry Kissinger and looks up to him as her foreign policy mentor.

Any other ideas? I want this to be absolutely damning.

I want to include her support of the Iraq War and spearheading the US intervention in the Libyan Civil War, but I think these may be too complicated for my audience. If you have an idea of how to much that more digestible for them, please let me know.

July 24, 2016 - 16:10

Henry Rivera

Welcome to American politics

July 24, 2016 - 16:10

Angel Moore

shadowthehedgehog.bmp

July 24, 2016 - 16:10

Luke Hill

Give me a minute. I saved a good reddit post with lots of info against her. I'll post it.

July 24, 2016 - 16:11

Sebastian Gomez

top pleb

July 24, 2016 - 16:11

Kayden Williams

Fuck Trump, I legit don't care if he wins or not. That isn't what this is about.

What this is about is either fixing or discarding an openly corrupt party that pretends to be leftist. I'm sick of only getting the same shit every election, time to change that. Collaborators must die, especially collaborators that are almost completely identical to the GOP in every way except they have a -D next to their name instead of an -R.

Also, thinking strategically Trump would be such a moron as President that rebuilding a modern, pro-worker Democrat coalition won't be difficult at all. But only if the party politburo itself allows it. That's why Hilary must loose: it sends a signal that neoliberalism is a no-go and that the party MUST be pro-worker if they want power.

July 24, 2016 - 16:12

Caleb Garcia

The reasons are endless
reddit.com/r/politics/comments/4nc4gj/megathread_president_obama_endorses_hillary/d43ap9j

reddit.com/r/politics/comments/4ipl4w/dear_hillary_im_a_sexual_assault_survivor_and_i/d30bvvy

July 24, 2016 - 16:13

Christopher Nelson

Sanders has already clarified that his endorsement is premised upon Hillary's candidacy being the only possible one beating for beating Trump. See

July 24, 2016 - 16:14

Austin Hernandez

Then that would be discarding, because there's no fixing a corporate party into a non-corporate one.

DNC & RNC are both the same, as you mention. Both parties should be discarded.

July 24, 2016 - 16:15

Nicholas Scott

And the DNC and Hillary are just going to make his job a living hell because they're fucking lunatics.

If by some miracle Hillary gets the presidency, it will be solely because of S█████ effort.

July 24, 2016 - 16:20

Sebastian Nelson

The Shillbots are fucking salty.

July 24, 2016 - 16:31

Gavin Turner

this

they're as fucking crazy as the RNC, it's just a different kind of crazy

RNC confused feelings for facts
DNC confused pragmatism for sociopathy

July 24, 2016 - 16:31

Nolan Bell

It would be neat if he did have dirt on the don too, actually, just to show he's nonpartisan.

July 24, 2016 - 16:45

Justin Wilson

imo I think he is non-partisan and that he puts out information as fast as he can. The only thing that shills don't understand is that Clinton and the DNC are being targeted by hackers who forward the info to wikileaks. Assange doesn't target people/ideologies specifically.

July 24, 2016 - 16:48

Lincoln Gonzalez

They're crazy because both parties are so incredibly detached from the American people that they're living in separate worlds. It's how this entire situation happened. They were both so caught up in their own narcissism that they got fucked in the ass.

I think the worst part is that if Hillary wins, the DNC will automatically think it was because they're better, not because S█████ busted his ass to save them. They're that deluded.

July 24, 2016 - 17:00

Sebastian Cruz

How is exposing her collusion with the DNC an attack on her?

July 24, 2016 - 17:05

Dominic Kelly

Using party politics as usual. They never learn. unfortunately it works on a lot of people, still.

July 24, 2016 - 17:09

Samuel Garcia

You see, politics isn't actually about electing the best candidate and discussing what's best for the country, it's a game where you choose a person and then fight to the death for them. If someone tells you your candidate is flawed, that is an attack. If someone says something bad about something even tangentially related to your candidate and it hurts their numbers, they're attacking and should stop it.

July 24, 2016 - 17:09

Andrew Rivera

China's credit to the U.S. federal government is only 21% of public debt, we're not "reliant" on anyone.

>though he seems to prefer hyperinflation via printing money ad infinitum instead
Believe it or not, there's a proposed tax system like this, which would work by replacing some or all taxes with inflation, central banks simply issuing the government money, with the "tax" burden falling on those most vulnerable to inflation. I haven't seriously evaluated it, so I don't know how that would stack up vis-à-vis porky.

I'm not accelerationist on this issue ;-). My opinion is that our current course, even aside from its harsh everyday injustice, spells certain doom; whereas killing it and restoring protectionism presents at least the possibility (IMHO the virtual certainty, given the great similarity between neoliberalism today and the gilded age FDR and socdems like him around the world crushed before) of tremendous gain in exchange for an (IMHO small to nonexistant) economic shock.

Unless you're anticipating a global revolution against capitalism soon, the only glimmer of hope down the other path is 3rd-world reformists lifting themselves out of poverty and despotism, by which time the entire 1st-world proletariat's political victories would've long ago been destroyed by neoliberalism, which would also destroy the best and strongest ally of the 3rd-world proletariat in that struggle and bolster their greatest foe. Though there is one other rationale you offer:
The increasing alienation between the neoliberal "mainstream" and the natural interests of the viciously slandered masses they supposedly represent are the one and only thing that has fueled the far right, because there is no other political institution remaining for us to turn to. If neoliberalism was exiled from mainstream politics to the same obscure ostracism as autistrians, lolberts, and randroids, the far right would almost immediately blow away like a thin mist IMHO.

I think the most accurate description would be "in deceleration"

I'll just quickly note that Twitter is still just as phony, parasitic, and full of robots as ever, if not more:
nondoc.com/2015/10/15/twitter-audit-reveals-stuff/
theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/06/have-twitter-bots-infiltrated-the-2016-election/484964/

July 24, 2016 - 17:11

Dylan Ross

WHEN WILL THERE BE COURT CASES!? WHEN WILL THERE BE JAIL SENTENCES!? WHEN WILL THERE BE LEGISLATIVE INQUIRIES!? WHEN WILL THERE BE MASS PUBLIC EXECUTION OF PARTY TRAITORS BY FIRING SQUAD!?

If you look at the polling, it was an unquestionable Shillary loss. Even with suppression techniques like closed ballots and polling-place shutdowns, [REDACTED] almost certainly got the most votes and would've won anyway if they were all counted accurately:
inquisitr.com/3207171/election-fraud-study-points-to-rigged-democratic-primary-against-bernie-sanders-video/
thefreethoughtproject.com/election-fraud-rico-lawsuit-alleging-widespread-e-vote-rigging-dnc-primaries-derail-clinton-nomination/

July 24, 2016 - 17:12

Ethan Lopez

Assange's henchmen are on the move

uawire.org/news/ukrainian-intelligence-russian-troops-in-the-donbas-are-moving-closer-to-the-demarcation-line

July 24, 2016 - 17:13

Mason Thomas

flag fixed

July 24, 2016 - 17:13

Leo Bell

Good to know.

July 24, 2016 - 17:18

Michael Flores

Donna Brazile is out as Chairwoman, but look who they brought in.

Would you look at this political maneuvering? The fucking nerve. Not only is she a black woman, she's from FUCKING OHIO.

July 24, 2016 - 17:35

Angel Jones

...

July 24, 2016 - 17:35

Brody Smith

archive.is/LEBl9
I want to kill myself right now almost as much as i want to kill the entire daily beast staff

July 24, 2016 - 17:39

Jace Wood

Clinton/Kaine speak about emails a little. Hillary says she "hasn't read any of them".
Yeah, she was just directing them behind the scenes through DWS.

archive.is/wc5W4

cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-overtime-hillary-clinton-tim-kaine-clips/

Even when I disabled adblock the vid didn't work. No matter, the article(archived above) shows a summary. The usual BS.

July 24, 2016 - 17:42

Austin Russell

lmao

July 24, 2016 - 17:44

Benjamin Ramirez

See this? This is how they're going to lose the election. It won't be because of Trump or Sanderistas, but because of their own elitist attitudes.

July 24, 2016 - 17:47

Jacob Rodriguez

...

July 24, 2016 - 17:54

Kayden Rogers

holy fug

July 24, 2016 - 17:54

Ethan Price

Just when I thought it couldn't get any worse, the king of disaster arrives.

July 24, 2016 - 17:56

Aiden Bailey

this is old news, Clinton team started doing this months ago.
still retarded, and it's probably going to help Trump in the long run

July 24, 2016 - 18:01

Dylan Nguyen

RNC is as bad as the DNC.

Remember Ron Paul?

July 24, 2016 - 18:03

Daniel Garcia

GG KOJIMA

July 24, 2016 - 18:05

Caleb Nguyen

Dude, EVERYTHING Clinton is doing right now is helping Trump. She is making a perfect case for his anti-establishment campaign because she's living in la la land.

July 24, 2016 - 18:08

Julian Bennett

twitter.com/AC360/status/757374295957991425

"Interim DNC chair, Donna Brazile: "I want to learn what is behind all of this, because more emails are coming.""

"Intellectual Property" LMAO

July 24, 2016 - 18:09

Dominic Morales

youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

Of course.

July 24, 2016 - 18:10

Grayson Perry

Again, it goes to show who will decide the election: Ohio and Pennsylvania.

July 24, 2016 - 18:10

Blake Bennett

...

July 24, 2016 - 18:11

Dominic Powell

Except if Hillary is anything to go by at least the DNC is more competent in squashing the "anti-establishment outsider candidate"

July 24, 2016 - 18:13

Isaac Moore

The Republicans are probably going to win. There's too many things going for them:

1. erosion of the working class and Unionism, which has caused swing states to swing red
2. Hilary/Kaine are both boring white people so low minority turnout
3. the DNCleaks has now given progressives a bona fide reason to eject from the party, or at least burn it all down

What base does Hilary have left? She's pivoting to the right, but most moderates will probably vote for Trump as they are already voting for GOP legislative candidates.

July 24, 2016 - 18:13

Asher Wright

Dunno, I'd say the RNC treatment of Ron Paul was more fucked up than what the DNC did to S█████.

July 24, 2016 - 18:18

Easton Morales

Not much better if S█████ still has this huge outpouring of support.

July 24, 2016 - 18:18

Xavier Russell

'Straya Cunt fuck yeah

July 24, 2016 - 18:22

Robert Lewis

reddit.com/r/politics/comments/4uewdj/debbie_wasserman_schultz_resignation_megathread/?sort=top

Funny stuff from top comments

July 24, 2016 - 18:22

Aaron Phillips

At this point, we should simply consider any Burnie supporters to be off the table. Any thoughts the Clinton campaign may of had of getting them are now nothing short of delusional.

July 24, 2016 - 18:23

Ian Jenkins

...

July 24, 2016 - 18:23

Ayden Wright

DNC literally saying.. "Oh Fudge.."

July 24, 2016 - 18:25

Blake Barnes

KEK
Literally Clinton surrogate- one of the top promoters of the chairs myth

Who?
Also, where can I sign?

That's LeoPirate, he's just another Gamergate idiot.

youtube.com/watch?v=XR5YdSCt3Eg

kekkelshekk

Oh, and don't forget, he still thinks he has info to indict Hillary with. It is called "Hillary Leaks", he's got an ace.

He could still rescind. It might depend on how big the dump tomorrow is. I think first order of business is delegates vote on various things including nominee for president, and then speeches, including B████'s. Unless he has some big agitation planned, a coup attempt, or maybe a plea to superdelegates to stop the madness while they can, he's going to stay behind Hillary. If this gets any worse, though, it's possible but unlikely that Hillary would give up by herself.

It's yet another fucking Hillary supporter. At least this time it's not an actual Hillary surrogate. When will they fucking get it?

T O P K E K
-
Pic related is the result of an argument I had with a hillshill on Twitter. Ignore the "kill white people" bit, I just like to rustle the hustles of hypocritical white idpol fanatics. You have no idea how many times I've been called a white male. And have a hillshill-
twitter.com/art2u2/status/757329930237521921
twitter.com/art2u2/status/757330689570185216

July 24, 2016 - 18:43

Brody Fisher

Best part, she was also critical of S█████.

m.wtam.iheart.com/articles/local-news-122520/marcia-fudge-says-bernie-sanders-should-14506141/

I'm sure S█████ is going to try his hardest to get them to vote. I know he doesn't want a Trump presidency, but the DNC screwed in more ways than one. Hillary is completely unelectable.

July 24, 2016 - 18:44

Matthew Evans

Huh. If only Ronny knew about the contradictions in capitalism itself.

July 24, 2016 - 18:45

Lincoln Thompson

Ron Paul was more antiwar than S█████.

July 24, 2016 - 18:46

Jack Gomez

She doesn't seem SO bad. Clinton supporter doesn't have to be Hillshill, like DWS.

July 24, 2016 - 18:46

Jose Flores

Assange said it's enough evidence to move on her, but he acknowledges that the FBI won't ever indict her.

It's also supposedly about the Clinton Foundation.

July 24, 2016 - 18:48

Jackson Cook

MAMMA MAMMAFUCKIN' MIA
Source on that?
Also, Comey dindu nuffin. I think if there was the evidence he would recommend it. Remember, he could neither confirm nor deny that there wasn't a super ultra top level secret investigation on the Clinton Foundation. If Wikileaks beats them, even better. They better phuggin drop it tomorrow, the lack of anything interesting today tells me the next one's a doozy, even if it IS the last one.

July 24, 2016 - 18:50

Jeremiah Parker

gay post

July 24, 2016 - 18:50

Isaiah Cruz

DNC chose her, she must be bad. I don't mean to make it so simple, but it's easy to with the establishment.

July 24, 2016 - 18:52

Aaron Murphy

yournewswire.com/julian-assange-my-next-leak-will-ensure-hillarys-arrest/

>Assange hinted that the emails slated for publication contain additional information about the Clinton Foundation. He also reminded ITV’s Robert Peston that previously released emails contained one damning piece of communication from Clinton, instructing a staffer to remove the classification settings from an official State Department communication and send it through a “nonsecure” channel. Assange then pointed out that the Obama administration has previously prosecuted numerous whistleblowers for violating the government’s procedures for handling classified documents.

July 24, 2016 - 18:54

Aaron Jones

Is that why he supported all those anti-left coups in Latin America in the '70s and '80s? Because he's so antiwar?

July 24, 2016 - 19:00

Austin Morris

I follow "her". I like to think it's a parody account half of the time with all the Linux bashing she does.

July 24, 2016 - 19:15

Caleb Rivera

AW SHEEIT
This is going to tie together the e-mail server and the Clinton Foundation, isn't it? Mind fucking blown. Fuck my gay asshole, Assange, I'm ready.

Oh it fucking better be.

July 24, 2016 - 19:19

Logan Edwards

Yeah I had the same reasoning.

July 24, 2016 - 19:20

Jaxon Campbell

Stupid question, but what does this matter?

July 24, 2016 - 19:22

Angel Jones

Battleground state. He's implying they're pandering to Ohio, which I highly doubt.

July 24, 2016 - 19:22

Christopher Diaz

Holy shit guys, I just thought of something.

What if S█████ calls on Hillary to resign in his speech? Like, politely. Make the argument that she is probably unelectable at this point and it'll only get worse. Especially if Assange drops a huge load of shit tomorrow. This way he can still be promoting "unity" and having the party's best interests in mind, just indicating that after a certain point they no longer lie with Hillary. He doesn't have to try for a moonshot superdelegate coup or deserting the party or rescinding his endorsement (which, of course, wouldn't really affect the DNCs endorsement of her, and he would just alienate himself from them). He can conclude with something like "as long as Hillary is the nominee, I will support her. But she does not necessarily have to be the nominee."

July 24, 2016 - 19:27

Alexander Nguyen

I believe it may be lower than that by some metrics, but that is nevertheless one-fifth of our entire public debt. If China were to withdraw that, it would severely cripple the United States, especially since I seriously doubt it would cut military spending to compensate.

Never heard of it. Is there a name for this?

Perhaps you're right, but I'm wary of gambling the lives and livelihoods of hundreds of millions on a guess that could prematurely lead to an unstable global economy during a time in which we cannot afford it. The similarities between the 1920–1940s are indeed abundant, and eerily so, which is why I'm increasingly concerned about the prospects of a third world war. The United States, via NATO, is already patrolling the Russian border and the presumptive nominee for one of the leading major parties in the United States supports potentially escalating tensions by imposing a no-fly zone over Syria.

Nevertheless, I'm not sure the similarities are sufficient to conclude that the same course of action is sufficient. This is what I previously believed, and still do in some ways, but I'm skeptical of that plan due to the significant differences, both in terms of technology and historical conditions, between the Great Depression and what followed and now.

I'm not anticipating an imminent global revolution so much as I consider it a necessity. If we don't either have a global communist revolution within the next decade or two, or we postpone it entirely and focus on achieving a global green revolution first at all costs (up to and including green fascism), the current conditions with anthropogenic global warming and climate change will be too far along for us to seriously stop it. At that point, game's over. At this rate, over the next couple centuries, there will not only be no more economic system to transform, there will no longer be a human civilization to make that transformation or even a habitable ecosphere under human civilization could flourish. I can only hope I'm wrong, but I'm of the mind that if we don't have either global revolution soon, our struggle will be an exercise in futility.

I'm not so sure about that. Reactionary ideology has already been revived and movements already exist and grow promoting that ideology. Although neoliberalism provides fertile conditions for its continued growth, even its abolition will not be enough. Their ideology is self-reproducing and has already been shown to develop in social democracies where neoliberalism is virtually nonexistent. The end of neoliberalism as a mainstream position would of course help, but I don't know if it would be enough to stem the growth of the far right.

Maybe, though economic maturation usually foretells of economic decline. When an economy is mature, capital leaves to developing regions where investment can yield greater returns.

July 24, 2016 - 19:31

James Powell

Shit would go crazy & it would be beautiful.

July 24, 2016 - 19:32

Isaac Flores

I'm crossing my fuckin' fingers, dude. They wouldn't have any reason to scapegoat him if he's on the campaign trail for Hillary while arguing he's still available. Hopefully he or Jeff have had the same idea.

July 24, 2016 - 19:33

Benjamin Robinson

Because of the electoral college, only about 15 or so swing states actually decide the election. Of these, almost all of them are reliably GOP at the moment except for Ohio and Pennsylvania. Assuming no other states flip (a thing strategists and statisticians assume), in order to get to 270 Trump requires both. If either go for Hilary, and no other states flip, then Hilary wins. But if one state goes GOP, and one other state flips, Trump wins.

Thus, OH and PA will more or less decide the election.

Ohio in particular is GOP run but the lack of a Kaisch endorsement will hurt Trump. However if Hilary fucks up the convention progressives and blacks might not turn out in Philly (especially if there's a riot tomorrow). Both can go either way.

July 24, 2016 - 19:38

Jaxon Thompson

It wouldn't, as US banks and the Social Security Administration would simply buy them all up (even taking out bonds from US banks to pay for them). It wouldn't be pretty, but the US overall would come away mostly unscathed. Meanwhile, Congress would immediately move to embargo Chinese goods, or hit them with a high tariff. This destroys the Chinese economy, 30% of which is exports to the US. And, since China no longer has reliable income from T-bonds, their credit rating is also in the toilet.

Basically the flow of money would go from:

US Treasury -> China's government -> Chinese companies -> US citizens -> US Treasury
to :
US Treasury -> US SSA -> US Treasury

It would be the stupidest decision China could possibly make.

July 24, 2016 - 19:45

Luke Morales

I wish they had dirt on him too because both parties being shown to be corrupt as fuck would do a lot to further the left, especially with Trump being the right-wing populist that he is.

I fear that a lot of people may vote for Trump out of a misguided "accelerationism" (whether they use the actual term or not) and we'll essentially just end up back at 2000, or worse: 1980.

July 24, 2016 - 19:59

Jackson Howard

we're already back at 2000, given that nothing has changed since then. Same faces, same dotcom bubble. Trump gets along because he's promoting something different (nationalism), as opposed to the current status quo (neoliberalism)

A lot of people will vote just on that. Hilary will loose because she's a 90s era face in the 2010s.

July 24, 2016 - 20:03

Brayden Diaz

God, this is pathetic.

July 24, 2016 - 20:06

Camden Taylor

I thought about it, but I highly doubt he would do it.
He's way too afraid of looking like a sore loser

July 24, 2016 - 20:11

Lincoln Murphy

So far Hillary has done everything in her power to alienate progressives from getting tim kaine as her vp, jewing B████ out of any influence, hiring DWS on her campaign as soon as she got fired.

Bernie himself has said nothing about the leaks even though its hard evidence he got jewed by a corrupt DNC and media that works hand in hand with each other.

So like, if that doesn't tell you her presidency is going to be nothing but center right dick sucking i dont know what will you lefty retards.

July 24, 2016 - 20:22

Bentley Robinson

Where do you think you are?

July 24, 2016 - 20:25

Levi Collins

Wow, you figured it out, huh?

July 24, 2016 - 20:28

Jaxson Ward

Trump will say whatever, but he'll still push the same neoliberal shit, just with some right-wing spookiness on top.

And I mean a Trump presidency would just set us back to how things were under Bush, just looking for a Democrat and nothing better.

July 24, 2016 - 20:34

Elijah Adams

Is it wrong that a small part of me supports Dirty Hillary out of accelerationism?

I feel like this country's going to shit so I'd prefer them to be President rather than say the Green Party and then have every talking head bitch about how "socialism failed!"

July 24, 2016 - 20:53

Dominic Thomas

If Hillary is president there are still americans who would say that proves socialism failed

July 24, 2016 - 20:55

Dylan Jenkins

It's just something I've run across occasionally in random places over the years, I'm not aware of any formal theory advocating it, probably the closest are neochartalists.

If not now, when? Granted, there are gentler versions as we discussed at the start of this conversation (phased-in FairTrade mandates for normal trade, with credits and FairTrade subsidies replacing most foreign aid), but even the most sudden and absolute protectionist regime would be better than what will unequivocally happen if the destructive policies of free trade and mass economic immigration continue unabated.

I'm not, even 50 years of Cold War with a far stronger cryptofascist dictatorship had a 0% chance of going hot except by accident or rogue agency. Nukes haven't gone away, and all of the USA's rivals are weaker and less totalitarian than ever, so the worst that could happen is more tedious little proxy sideshow "wars" like Vietnam and Afghanistan were. Even the farce that is "military" spending wouldn't change, since it's already higher than at the Cold War's height.

>the next decade or two […] anthropogenic global warming and climate change will be too far along for us to seriously stop it. […] At this rate, over the next couple centuries, there will not only be no more economic system to transform, there will no longer be a human civilization to make that transformation or even a habitable ecosphere under human civilization could flourish.
Most models of current trends (barring bizarre runaway catastrophes like clathrate guns) such as the IPCC's aren't anywhere near that dire. Aside from rough weather, sea levels aren't predicted to rise more than about 0.3-2 meters by 2100, and up to 6 meters over the millennium. It will produce grueling privation, especially for the poorest and most vulnerable, but couldn't possibly be the end of civilization. Of course, going green would actually save vast amounts of money even if global warming and fixed resource peaks didn't exist, but remember there's also the possibility of geoengineering as a workaround and one we'll ultimately need anyway unless we feel like tolerating nature's cyclical glaciations.

Whisper of a dream Trump isn't 100% flimflam. And even then, I think he'd have a very positive effect against the left's idpol infestation.

I heard all sorts of (ultimately fruitless, sigh) rumors about angry Democrats with guns outside the RNC, but here's hoping the DNC turns into an inferno that'll make Boston look like a marshmallow roast.

July 24, 2016 - 21:00

John Barnes

You over estimate Ohio and Pennslyvannia a bit. It is true they are decisive in presidential elections but Flordia going Democrat would basically make it almost impossible for Trump to win. He could take North Carolina, Virginia and Nevada in addition to OH and PA and still lose if Florida goes Democrat.

July 24, 2016 - 21:16

Angel Flores

That's above my current erudition, sorry.

Perhaps when the radical left has been revitalized in the United States and has a plausibly viable chance of taking and holding pertinent positions of power in the legislative and executive branches? Until then, I don't see how these actions could meaningfully improve conditions for the radical left. It might potentially improve conditions for the workers, but if those workers will just turn to national capitalism and other proto-fascist precursors to fascism proper, all we've really done is improve the lives of future reactionaries. As much as I'm committed to supporting the improvement of conditions for the workers, I have a hard spot for reactionaries and members of the far right.

Perhaps the information you've read paints a less grim picture, then, because it was my understanding that a significant portion of the eastern seaboard of the United States will be underwater by the turn of the century, including some of its largest cities, among other predictions.

July 24, 2016 - 21:18

Brody Reed

What's this from? Is that B████ chanting I hear in the audience?

July 24, 2016 - 21:23

Nathaniel Perez

Also, how exactly would Trump " have a very positive effect against the left's idpol infestation"? If anything, he would only aggravate idpol on the left (especially among the bourgeois left), which would cause anyone turned away from it to go to the alt-right (which has its own idpol). I keep seeing this claim that a Trump presidency would be deleterious to idpol, either among the left or in general, yet his entire campaign is predicated on identity politics and he promotes an alt-right idpol that only aggravates all other idpol.

July 24, 2016 - 21:23

Jose Stewart

Fuck this goddamn site and it keep on deleting my text before I can post. This is for .

July 24, 2016 - 21:24

Eli Jackson

The cynicism of the DNC is great.

The DNCleaks is hard evidence that its all a show.

July 24, 2016 - 21:42

Chase Reed

this is great. idpol is "taco bowl engagement."

July 24, 2016 - 21:51

Hunter Bennett

Requesting "Mexico" and "Latin America" be wordfiltered to "taco bowl engagement"

July 24, 2016 - 21:53

Ryan Rivera

The only thing shillbots can think of is to say russians are behind this, and even if they are that would mean they got the info from her email server……

July 24, 2016 - 21:56

Hunter Williams

...

July 24, 2016 - 22:04

Logan Kelly

That's a reasonable position, but I think this is the chance we need to break the entryist stranglehold over the left, and even tip the right back toward things like labor unionism. Populism is the stuff both dreams and nightmares are made of, but if the falsely centrist neoliberal agenda is allowed to get back on track, I really think both could again be snuffed out for the foreseeable future. The [REDACTED] and Trump phenomena are an opportunity that hasn't come along in almost a century, one we should fail to fully exploit only at profound consideration.

For two reasons: First, that PC has been so effective precisely because mainstream Republicans always played along before, but these spitballs bounce off Trump like a battleship. Second, Trump and his allies have been specifically targeting PC itself for liquidation, which nobody else has up to now.

PC has also been ruthlessly and publicly antagonizing the first sprouts of genuine leftism, while Trump has been aloof or supportive toward us so far, unlike Clinton. If [REDACTED] produces any strong insurgent legacy, it would probably do infinitely better fighting against Trump on real issues than Clinton on fake ones.

If, on top of that, Trump (or just his popular support) is even the tiniest bit genuine about fighting neoliberalism and/or neoconservatism, the entire bipartisan political field will pivot like an artillery piece squarely against the culturally indifferent force that upholds PC even as PC struggles to resist us, leaving it exposed and reviled.

Clinton on the other hand, represents the first direct cooption of PC, and very probably direct appointment of SJWs to high offices. Such people could easily form the core of something nearly as bad as the far right at their worst, but without any preexisting opposition. Most especially fresh from a victory over [REDACTED], then Trump, things could get very nasty.

July 24, 2016 - 22:11

Evan Harris

They are change the narrative to who leaked the info rather than the actual info
The media is in collusion with the DNC.
Facebook and twitter is actively trying to censor it.
The primaries were rigged by DWS in hillarys favor.
This whole god damn system is corrupt!

July 24, 2016 - 22:17

Caleb Smith

I've heard some of the electoral lawsuits also implicate journalists as sharing guilt, so there's at least a chance that some of them will end up legally disgraced and fired, fined, or in jail like GG should've concentrated on doing from the start as well.

July 24, 2016 - 22:24

Christian Myers

Gamer gate, while noble with thrashing liberal corruption was just about vidya games, this is about the people who run the fucking country, the media working hand in hand with them, this shit is no better than north korea.

July 24, 2016 - 22:29

Jayden Davis

Florida is solidly GOP, Rick Scott was one of the first people to endorse Trump.

July 24, 2016 - 22:34

Jaxon Russell

True, but many of the tactical considerations are applicable.

July 24, 2016 - 22:36

Dylan Evans

Even if they find out, they will simply forget. Look at Panama Papers. After a couple of weeks everyone forgot.

July 24, 2016 - 22:37

Caleb Hill

How can we keep this "hot"? What are some successful examples?

July 24, 2016 - 22:38

Ethan Parker

Also I think the Panama papers was a lot of "no shit Sherlock" to most people. I'd be surprised if a randomly selected major politician didn't have dodgy ties to Third World tax havens

July 24, 2016 - 22:41

Adam Gomez

Polls say a different story. RCP average has Trump up .3.

Obama won it the last two times. Having a Republican governor doesn't mean a whole lot. Gubernatorial elections have less turnout than general elections. Two million more voted in the last general election in Flordia than in the gubernatorial election. And it's not like Rick Scott won by a landslide.

State is a toss up. Like it is pretty much every general election.

July 24, 2016 - 22:43

Hudson Gomez

wiki leaks uses the drip feed tactic, they slowly give away info, drip, drip , drip, this isnt going to go away.

July 24, 2016 - 22:44

Blake Moore

And what, exactly, is "political correctness" to you, which I assume you mean by "PC"? I'm remain unconvinced that this is a real phenomenon worthy of consideration, especially since I see it more often used as a bogeyman for the right, alt-right, and—increasingly—among the alt-left.

How has Trump been "supportive toward [genuine leftists]" whatsoever? Surely, you aren't suggesting that we can take anything Trump says seriously? None of his campaign policies or positions are serious and he has failed to remain consistent on a single one of them, much less with his rhetoric.

Also, a Trump presidency likely wouldn't actually have Trump making any decisions. Barring assassination (which I consider very possible), Trump has already stated that he would delegate all domestic and foreign policy decisions to his Vice President, Mike Pence. That effectively leaves Trump with the only role of rhetorician at the bully pulpit, shilling whatever nonsense he cares to talk about and that Mike Pence decides for him.

You also mention "SJWs", which you need to define. "SJWs", like "PC", have essentially been definitionally meaningless terms used by the political right, especially the alt-right, to describe anyone to their left, including even so-called "cuckservatives". I generally don't take such terms seriously and consider anyone who uses them to be immediately discredited, but you've been seemingly sincere and serious about your responses to me thus far, and you have maintained decorum throughout, so you're obviously not one of the raving lunatics and crypto-idpol fetishists who usually use such language. If you just mean "SJW" to be the left equivalent of what Holla Forums has come to describe as "RIP", "RIPs", and "RIPPERS", then this is just a disagreement on terminology and not substance.

July 24, 2016 - 22:59

Jaxson Foster

I wish I could say there was another Jacobin terror around the corner.

July 24, 2016 - 23:01

Chase Harris

...

July 24, 2016 - 23:05

Ryder Kelly

I like the idea but you're forgetting that rich Americans are above the law.

July 24, 2016 - 23:06

Nathan Gomez

A lil terror is good sometimes

July 24, 2016 - 23:08

Brandon Adams

the thing is that the democratic party is supposed to be the party of the people. they must be held to a higher standard.

July 24, 2016 - 23:12

Matthew Lopez

Trump is a far right proto fascist nationalist.

Clinton is a neoliberal center right corporatist war hawk.

voting in trump would punch the DNC, but also trump is littrrly a mystery box on how he would govern.

Clinton, once in office will return to the status quo and ignore any real leftism besides occasionally pandering to idpol. she will also set up the next cold war with russia.

July 24, 2016 - 23:12

Thomas Edwards

Or worse, she might set up the next hot war with Russia. The thought scares me enough to make me seriously consider voting for Trump to stop her - at least until he opens his mouth.

We're in for some dark times either way, I just hope it's not the nuclear fire kind of dark.

July 24, 2016 - 23:17

Ayden Perry

Also.

HEY GUYS PUTIN AND RUSSIA ARE BAD BUT UHHHH IGNOR OUR RELATIONS WITH SAUID ARABIA, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE WHO BEHEAD WOMEN FOR DRIVING CARS.

July 24, 2016 - 23:18

Adrian Miller

Yeah, this. It's funny how the media kept going on about how Trump would "nuke any country that disagreed with him" while forgetting the frankly disturbing sabre-rattling at Russia coming from the other candidates (i.e. "We should punch Russia on the nose" Kasich and "We should shoot a few of their planes down to show 'em a lesson" Christie)

July 24, 2016 - 23:19

Evan Collins

Better relations with russia are bad, but lets support obama improving relations with iran

t.liberal

July 24, 2016 - 23:22

Easton Sullivan

Did you know bloomberg, the creator of new yorks stop and frisk program, and non stop surveillance of muslims is going to be speaking at the DNC

July 24, 2016 - 23:24

Bentley Moore

Heh.

July 24, 2016 - 23:25

William Lopez

She'll get into a very lethal accident arranged by her own people, if she tries to pull this one. Nobody wants a thermonuclear WWIII.

Face it: she is no different from Trump.

Lol. Guessed as much, when Trump was accused of being Putin's agent.

July 24, 2016 - 23:29

Grayson Robinson

twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/757434616764436480

July 24, 2016 - 23:32

Mason Torres

don't play me like this fat man

July 24, 2016 - 23:45

Cameron Morales

PC to me is the willingness to abuse deference to politeness and (often exaggerated, irrelevant, or completely false) consensus to indirectly browbeat one's opponents in lieu of fair debate, or as ostensible casus belli for picking fights with people one dislikes at will. Particularly terrifying examples are embodied in the arbitrary, dogmatic, tyrannical CoCs and other rules currently in force inside private, government, and especially academic institutions' internal conflict resolution systems. Little things like assumption of innocence, open trial, open rules, evidence, and democracy are vehemently rejected on an ideological basis. Where such things and the people who promulgate them have bled into the public legal system around the world (especially where they've achieved some permanence, like South Korea and Sweden) the results have bordered on parody.

By wagging his finger at our internecine enemies worst tactics against us, and repeating many of our points.

Not with any certainty, but that's still better than the unrelenting declaration of war Clinton has issued.

Rumors. Trump is nothing if not unpredictable, again unlike Clinton.

Identitarians, outrage-mongers, career pseudopolitical parasites, catty office politics-types, bratty little lifestylist teenagers (and teenagers at heart) that just want to piss off daddy, cultists, postmodernists, virtue signalers, hipsters, Stockholm-Syndrome bullying victims… Any of a number of groups that primarily depend on or are regularly used by those who depend on PC as their primary interaction with other people. In other words, brownshirt thugs with a coat of pink blush and good PR.

? I've been on this board since /gg/ and can't remember hearing that one.

Zuz

July 24, 2016 - 23:51

Xavier Mitchell

Thanks for clarifying.

"RIP" is a recent contrivance of Holla Forums, and "RIPPERS" is even more recent (and more rarely used). "RIP" is an acronym for Reactionary Identity Politics (and, consequently, Politicians). Rather than referring to those who engage in RIP as RIPs (P being politicians), "RIPPERS" has been suggested as an acronym for Reactionary Identity Politics People Expressing Reactionary Statements, though it didn't seem to catch on. Some have used it to describe what you might call "SJWs" (a term I think the left should abandon and stop trying to appropriate from the right), though it seems to be more frequently—and accurately—used to describe the alt-right, often in response to them describing us as "SJWs".

July 25, 2016 - 00:01

Robert Rogers

This shit is going to haunt democrats for years.

I love the internet age.

July 25, 2016 - 00:04

Isaiah Bell

They are "RIP" because they rip the working class apart by dividing it with identity politics. When used to refer to so-called "SJWs", they also rip the left apart with identity politics'' and RIPs (kills) the radical left from ever having a chance at succeeding by undermining the crucial solidarity among the proletariat for a proletarian revolution to occur.

Perhaps they meant "propaganda" in the non-pejorated sense, like how Noam Chomsky has used it and how the radical left has historically used it with terms like "agitprop"? Or am I being too generous?

July 25, 2016 - 00:06

Easton Miller

It's porky, I doubt it's meant in any way to be benign.

July 25, 2016 - 00:16

Christian Diaz

See, this is exactly what I thought, then someone pointed out in a podcast that 'tariffs and protectionism aren't a viable economic solution' so if he manages to implement his economic plan we'll see a great depression.

July 25, 2016 - 00:18

Andrew Martinez

I must admit I've never liked "SJW" as a term for various reasons (firstly because it's positive sounding sarcasm, and sarcasm tends to go over normalfags' heads; second because "social justice" itself is a redundant oxymoron, and likewise sounds superficially positive to normalfags), so I've always tended to avoid it whenever possible. I remember various threads to try and invent a superior alternative, but the best I was ever able to come up with was "outrageist", or the uselessly wordy "postmodern critical theorist".

I must admit that after GG broke up on Holla Forums, I quite surprised at how buttblasted Holla Forumsacks get when somebody uses the terms "idpol" or "identitarian" around them, even when just badmouthing leftists.

It doesn't really matter. Like the other guy said, that quote will play hilariously to the general public.

July 25, 2016 - 00:19

Parker Hall

What about P.C. Fun Police?

The Fascist Inquisition.

July 25, 2016 - 00:26

Matthew Gutierrez

...

July 25, 2016 - 01:15

Angel Stewart

This election proves the USSR should have wiped America off the face of the Earth in an instant in nuclear hell fire, sending all families, children, all young lovers and old couples, hopeful janitors and suicidal lost souls, into the jaws of hell.

All for the vaporization of Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton. It would be worth it all.

July 25, 2016 - 01:17

Sebastian Price

Democratic convention opens: An agenda of militarism and war
wsws.org/en/articles/2016/07/25/pers-j25.html

July 25, 2016 - 01:30

Adam Edwards

...

July 25, 2016 - 01:31

Isaac Long

Barry Grey

July 25, 2016 - 01:32

Wyatt Carter

communism or hell, it's time for the undead revolution

July 25, 2016 - 01:35

Aaron Williams

...

July 25, 2016 - 01:38

Camden Adams

The convention will be amazing to watch. Did they build that fence around the convention center in Philly? I'm also interested to see how they cover the protesters behind it, and if the protesters get through.

Anyone going, don't forget your wire-cutters!

July 25, 2016 - 02:17

Logan Gutierrez

thanks for turning off thousands of people to leftism you fucking faggots

July 25, 2016 - 02:21

Henry Jackson

Not remembering Chris-chan was the one thing making this an okay year

fuck you

July 25, 2016 - 02:27

Julian Campbell

Yeah, they're chanting B████ and then she tries to get them to chant Hillary instead.

July 25, 2016 - 02:39

Aiden Baker

Someone should make a giant pic of all the bad stuff from the DNC leaks with links to the emails listed as well, most people are lazy, if it was all on one giant pic you could spread it to normies on social media.

Also i wont make it because im lazy

July 25, 2016 - 02:51

Bentley Perry

This guy is a fucking moron and I look forward to proving him wrong at the upcoming Green convention.

July 25, 2016 - 04:27

Caleb James

Manlet loses his shit on the subway and starts shouting Trump 2016.

July 25, 2016 - 04:32

Logan Phillips

...

July 25, 2016 - 06:30

Landon Thomas

what the fuck man

July 25, 2016 - 06:31

Andrew Sanders

feels good to be alive

July 25, 2016 - 06:34

Ethan Parker

wikileaks hasnt even dropped their second nuke yet.
If trump wins the debates its ogre

July 25, 2016 - 06:37

Gabriel Myers

CONDUCTOR WE HAVE A PROBLEM

July 25, 2016 - 06:38

Levi Parker

Why even have an emergency button to call for help if nobody's going to respond to it though?

July 25, 2016 - 06:39

Carson Kelly

Though I don't object to his test, the button was supposed to be held down- not pressed repeatedly.

July 25, 2016 - 06:43

Joshua Campbell

I'm reading this as if Kaine would be like the Dem Cheney?

July 25, 2016 - 06:43

Michael Fisher

>DWS was booed off stage at the Florida delegation breakfast

The first day of the convention is off to a great start.

July 25, 2016 - 06:52

Noah Young

In an interview with 60 minutes, Hillary said Kaine was "very progressive". What a fucking joke.

July 25, 2016 - 06:54

Ian Butler

The damage control in the comments is great.

July 25, 2016 - 07:01

Jayden Hughes

it's no good if they just scapegoat her and give her the golden parachute. she barely mattered to the rigging. she was just hired for the job.

July 25, 2016 - 07:03

Liam Thompson

B-but… He mentioned social justice!

July 25, 2016 - 07:04

Kayden Flores

Yes. There's acres of fence line surround the DNC convention.

July 25, 2016 - 07:08

Aiden Fisher

Is Eric Andre gonna show up to the DNC like he did here?

youtube.com/watch?v=vL8Dz4mGv1g

July 25, 2016 - 07:16

Jeremiah Bailey

I'm sure the entire internet knows all about that arrangement by now. Hillary is a retard if thinks that shit will fly.

July 25, 2016 - 07:21

Jaxson Ramirez

Democrats can into building wall!

July 25, 2016 - 07:25

James Kelly

I kind of wish there were more edgy teenage anarchist there.
They would tear down that fence and not give it a second thought.

July 25, 2016 - 07:59

Cameron Allen

You seem just like those cretins who gurn at Bill Maher's jokes about Donald Trump, joking saying HAHAHA Trump doesn't know what he's doing he just says whatever!!! is basically the joke that the smug thickos of Bill Maher's audience lap up as well as you; none of whom are half as smart as Trump.

July 25, 2016 - 08:17

Jose Sanchez

But I thought that's why you liked him?

July 25, 2016 - 08:19

Gabriel Ramirez

...

July 25, 2016 - 08:30

Carson Brown

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/9423

>From:[email protected]/* */
>To: [email protected]/* */

>From: "Garcia, Walter" >
>To: "Miranda, Luis" >
>Cc: "Paustenbach, Mark" >

>Ralston Reports: Dems need unity, but they're getting mutinyrgj.com/story/news/politics/2016/05/17/ralston-reports-dems-need-unity-but-theyre-getting-mutiny-nevada-democratic-convention-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders/84521894/?mc_cid=6001cbd708&mc_eid=b3f6d44b0b>

July 25, 2016 - 08:35

Easton Sanders

TODAYS THE DAY

July 25, 2016 - 08:36

Owen Diaz

Hang all democrats

July 25, 2016 - 08:37

Carter Murphy

I really wonder what B████'s speech is going to be. It's has to be more than bitching about Trump.

July 25, 2016 - 08:42

Cooper Sanders

"Trump is the devil and that's why we need to rally now behind Mrs. Clinton."

July 25, 2016 - 08:43

Ethan Parker

...

July 25, 2016 - 09:07

Camden Wood

If does something like that, he might as well abandon any dreams of a political revolution.

Regurgitating tired criticisms against Trump won't do anything to soothe the pain of the protestors outside. They were betrayed and nobody in the DNC gives a fuck.

July 25, 2016 - 09:18

Aaron Collins

he threw away any pretense of revolution the moment he endorsed Hillary

July 25, 2016 - 09:24

David Bennett

But wasnt it already mentioned in this thread he did that to push some of his policies on her and to not risk Trump winning?

July 25, 2016 - 09:34

Dominic Walker

Let's make sure this gets around with attribution.

July 25, 2016 - 09:34

Hunter Ortiz

Can't wait for Wolff's podcast now tbqh

July 25, 2016 - 09:37

Brody Diaz

I avoid "SJW" for similar reasons, including the fact that I'm personally big on so-called "social justice" and I think it only hurts us to pejorate the idea for the purposes of a silly insult. That only sets us up for embarrassment, in much the same way classical liberals pejorated "liberal" into a slur for social liberals. For them, whenever they use "liberal" as a slur, all you have to do is point out that they, too, are liberals and they go ballistic. I'd rather the left, especially the radical left, set ourselves up for such a swift rebuttal.

As for "postmodern critical theorist", I'm actually against that because I consider postmodern critical theory to be useful under some circumstances and I seriously doubt the idpoliticians are seriously familiar with postmodern critical theory outside of whatever vulgar oversimplification they've been exposed to over Twitter conversations and the like.

For such individuals, I personally find it more useful to simply refrain from applying any label and to just criticize them based on their commitment to identity politics. At least with the alt-right, they are sufficiently homogeneous and monolithic enough to be generalized as "RIP". With so-called "SJWs"? Their opinions and approaches are multi-varied and, at least among the more erudite bourgeois leftists who engage in identity politics, they can also be insightful.

July 25, 2016 - 09:40

John Wright

Thank you Leaky Man

July 25, 2016 - 09:41

Leo Richardson

It was. He's more pro-stopping Trump than actually supporting Hillary. This is how he's remained clean despite his endorsement.

The problem is, Hillary and the DNC are unending disasters. Anything S█████ accomplishes in the campaign will be undone because they're bumbling, corrupt idiots. He can't even promote the party platform he helped forge because of the fucking lies they tell. Nobody believes in the Democrats.

July 25, 2016 - 09:51

Eli Hughes

Bernie sounds pissed.

July 25, 2016 - 10:12

Aaron Martin

how's he doing so far? is it cringe shit, or worth watching?

July 25, 2016 - 10:14

Nathan Wright

doesnt it start at 4pm? why is he speaking

July 25, 2016 - 10:16

Dylan Lee

It's pretty good.

He's speaking to his delegates.

youtube.com/watch?v=P635hGts0E4

July 25, 2016 - 10:17

Gabriel Wright

New wikileaks release when tbh

July 25, 2016 - 10:18

Owen Moore

Yeah, next time you think DNC can shrug us off, remember what we accomplished.

We will crush them.

July 25, 2016 - 10:20

Aiden Long

Bernie/Middle Class is my OTP

July 25, 2016 - 10:23

Levi Gutierrez

wait for it comrades, he will turn on us

July 25, 2016 - 10:27

Ian Williams

BOOOOOOOOOOOOO

July 25, 2016 - 10:28

Josiah Jackson

NO B████ NO

July 25, 2016 - 10:29

Daniel Hughes

christ B████, listen to your fucking delegates

July 25, 2016 - 10:30

Noah Ortiz

is he autistic?

July 25, 2016 - 10:32

Jaxon Parker

What happened? I just got here.

July 25, 2016 - 10:33

Lincoln Clark

FUCKING SELLOUT

July 25, 2016 - 10:33

Jack Jenkins

This is hard to watch.

Bernie is trying to rally his delegates behind Clinton and Kaine and they are not having it.

July 25, 2016 - 10:33

Andrew Nguyen

I'm actually glad they booed him and didn't fall in line.
It shows it's bigger than him now.

July 25, 2016 - 10:36

Carson Bell

What the fuck. I hope his delegates put up a fight come the main event. It's weird because technically it'd pro-Sanders since he's the only Dem candidate that isn't Hillary, but it'd really be an act of defiance against both him, Clinton, and the DNC.

July 25, 2016 - 10:38

Lincoln Wilson

But he didn't defend her.

It's even more apparent that his primary concerns right now are Trump and the downticket races. He had to ask them to support Hillary so he can focus on those goals.

From the e-mails, we already know the DNC hate his guts, so he has to play it safe for now. His dreams are bigger than this one election.

July 25, 2016 - 10:40

Carter Sanders

Well, here's the thing: Clinton is unelectable. She's fucking cancer and everyone but the DNC knows it.

Bernie might say "We have to elect Hillary", but really that's all he's going to say. The DNC is going to make him say that to stay in the party and have any real power to get what he wants done. If he's smart, he'd probably be focusing on the down-ticket, as that'd be the best way to not only achieve the reform he wants but getting those people in office would allow him to stump the trump.

July 25, 2016 - 10:41

Thomas Hall

Who ready for /Gabbard2020/ here?

July 25, 2016 - 10:48

Robert Lewis

bleh

July 25, 2016 - 10:50

Carson Hernandez

probably muh troops

July 25, 2016 - 10:51

Jack Cook

gib stream plz

July 25, 2016 - 10:52

Samuel Adams

she's the one who resigned from the DNC because of [REDACTED] right?

July 25, 2016 - 10:53

Matthew Nelson

She's the only competent Democrat who stood against the corrupt DNC in the first place with B████. Plus she has a better shot with the Idpol vote in the south.

July 25, 2016 - 10:54

Xavier Ross

Trump stating he supports Israel. have fun with it, Holla Forums.

Source here. youtube.com/watch?v=Hqb26LCSxwk

July 25, 2016 - 10:55

Jace Bennett

Trump has been saying this all along, only delusional Holla Forumsacks think he isn't an Israel supporter.

July 25, 2016 - 10:56

Juan Moore

If you want to watch news use these youtube links

youtube.com/watch?v=a4B2CGpB86E

youtube.com/watch?v=c_f3mBWjKkU

youtube.com/watch?v=dWYScYUQIbk

Search DNC on youtube and filter to live only if you want more

July 25, 2016 - 10:56

Landon Lewis

A convention always gives its candidate a temporary bump in polls. IIRC in 2008 it caused McCain to surge ahead of Obama for a bit, and same in 2012 with Romney. As for the e-mails, what can they prove asides from shit everyone already knew? Unless the e-mails leak that the Democratic Party sacrifices a child on the peak of Samhain to fuel their dark lord Hillary Clinton's power, the polls will return to where they've been after the DNC Convention wraps up.

Media's gonna continue acting like this is a "close race" though for clickbait purposes, even when Hillary has every god damn demographic save for uneducated white dudes firmly favoring her.

July 25, 2016 - 10:57

Jacob Myers

Post it to Holla Forums

July 25, 2016 - 10:59

Easton Murphy

Aside from the fact that virtually every one of the enemy either have an actual critical gender/race/etc studies degree or are fed their ideology by people who do, I have personally never conversed with nor read anything from someone fitting that description that I didn't rapidly feel like machinegunning into a shallow ditch. Even if it somehow isn't inherent, there is obviously something very wrong with it in practice.

And he surely has to know she's unelectable. A vote for Her at the DNC is a vote for Trump in November, if he'd refused to endorse her and pressed nonstop on the primary sham, he could've had an excellent chance at the nomination. Even future downballot races would work better as a pariah from the Democratic establishment, since his candidates would be firmly distanced from mainstream infiltrators, and they would also be more attractive to centrists/Republicans. This just doesn't make any sense.

July 25, 2016 - 11:01

Robert Lopez

Alt-Right confirmed for Manlet Obstructionist assholes?

July 25, 2016 - 11:01

Grayson Nelson

it's the opposite, the media has been saying since day one that Hillary is guaranteed to win while ignoring how badly the democrats fucked up this election by alienating S█████ supporters and pivoting to the right economically.
Hillary is probably the only democrat today unlikable enough to lose to Trump but Clinton News Network is still overestimating her

July 25, 2016 - 11:01

Jonathan Stewart

...

July 25, 2016 - 11:02

Lincoln Nelson

...

July 25, 2016 - 11:03

Jack Cook

can you get any more pleb?

July 25, 2016 - 11:04

Owen Harris

...

July 25, 2016 - 11:04

John Hill

I know. I shitpost here and on Holla Forums cause I like fucking with people. This election has been fun for that. I always get told I'm from Holla Forums here which is funny to me. And there they tell me to go back to Holla Forums. Funny how that works.

already am fam. But I know I'm not the only one that likes to fuck with people. Just dropping by the gift if anyone wishes too as well.

Yeah I saw that comment too, made me laugh.

July 25, 2016 - 11:05

Samuel Edwards

If only we could build a butthurt power plant, these guys could keep it operational for eternity.

July 25, 2016 - 11:07

Caleb Moore

Philly-friend here. I went last night to check out the "free speech zones" for protesters they have set up in FDR park (talk about an ironic name) across from the event center and it was draconian as fuck. A 4 mile long fence around the entire event center and the park. It was like I was on set of Children of Men.

July 25, 2016 - 11:10

Colton Martinez

IIRC I'm pretty only 1/5 or 1/4 of S█████ voters said they'd never vote for Hillary. So, not really a big deal if she continues to piss off the B████ or Bust crowd because they'd never vote for her in the first place and most of those fuckers seem to be chumps that would've voted Ron Paul 2008 because "he's anti-establishment, maaaaan" and will do so with Trump this time around.

July 25, 2016 - 11:10

John Peterson

Julian Assange and Wikileaks were apart of a russian conspiracy to stop our Woke Queen Hillary from slaying hatred of women in America or something
archive.is/z04hO

July 25, 2016 - 11:12

Zachary Gutierrez

I suppose I have a higher tolerance for such individuals, then. I view them less as conscious actors who push their ideology with ulterior motives and more of a hoodwinked and misguided group of individuals who are genuinely interested in improving the lives of others but who are being used as useful idiots by a bourgeois intelligentsia that wants to keep them distracted from class politics. Unlike the reactionary right, who bares the brunt of my anger and hostility, so-called "SJWs" and the like have—at least in my experience—been receptive to civil dialogue and sometimes even agree with me on my statements about capitalism. That is not something I notice among those engaging in RIP, so I generally consider them unworthy of my time.

July 25, 2016 - 11:13

Eli Allen

Bernie is losing control over his movement comrades.

July 25, 2016 - 11:13

Jordan Roberts

Sounds like some sort of libertarian petting zoo.

July 25, 2016 - 11:16

Eli Cox

Good

July 25, 2016 - 11:16

Elijah Rogers

The Fire Rises

July 25, 2016 - 11:16

David Wilson

...

July 25, 2016 - 11:17

Owen Roberts

Makes sense. Trump's a Putin bootlick and is a walking disaster for America's economy.

July 25, 2016 - 11:18

Easton Turner

I've been watching CNN and MSNBC all day and they keep spinning it towards a red scare tactic thing. Pretty laughable.

Sanders is too spineless. He's now a little good boy democrat. Thinking he'll do anything is as delusional as Holla Forums thinking Trump doesn't bow down to da jooz.

Even if I am a just a shit stirrer, it's better for B████ to lose control of his voters and for them to burn down everything in their path. B████ doesn't deserve their respect.

July 25, 2016 - 11:18

Ian Hernandez

MSNBC just interview a guy with a PSL sign

July 25, 2016 - 11:18

Thomas Sanders

A what?

July 25, 2016 - 11:19

Joseph Peterson

Party for Socialism and Liberation
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for_Socialism_and_Liberation#Domestic_social_policy

July 25, 2016 - 11:20

William Russell

youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=PTBC6MIzbks

July 25, 2016 - 11:22

Grayson Miller

This: . Minor socialist party.

July 25, 2016 - 11:22

Eli Jackson

Nevermind, it's a communist party. And Marxist–Leninist? That's disappointing

July 25, 2016 - 11:25

Jacob Johnson

First off, he had to endorse her. Convention rules.

Second, he doesn't want a Trump presidency. It's a threat to his vision for America. While he did come in very strong in the primaries(48% of the vote) it's not strong enough to confidently attain a third party presidency. Maybe next year, but not this one. The DNC is willing to fall on their own sword for their shit candidate, so we have to live with it and S█████ has to work his ass off putting a psychopathic robot in the White House.

However, it's not the end of the world. That 48% gives us a lot of power, especially after this scandal. Win or lose, it's almost guaranteed that we'll be getting a more left leaning Democratic party after this election. Hillary's scheming will be completely pyrrhic when Congress is filled with B████crats.

July 25, 2016 - 11:28

Jack Phillips

I saw that.
Those red flags waving made me hard.

July 25, 2016 - 11:28

Jayden Davis

apparently Jane S█████ just said something about B████'s name going forward for nomination or something

July 25, 2016 - 11:29

Blake Brown

HAPPENING
twitter.com/RamonFebus/status/757643052076920832

What did Jane mean by this?

July 25, 2016 - 11:30

Ethan Bennett

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

July 25, 2016 - 11:31

Caleb Hernandez

What did she mean by this?

July 25, 2016 - 11:32

James Murphy

I don't remember reading any of the DNC emails stating they had people here too, but I'm not surprised.

July 25, 2016 - 11:32

Carson Cooper

Do I sense an insurrection?

July 25, 2016 - 11:32

Eli Gonzalez

Okay, I used a meme to ask but for real, what does this entail? I'm a stupid fuck and I'm not helped by the fact that I didn't sleep well and I haven't eaten yet today (new kitten, she's been sleeping like a baby on my lap all day and I don't have the heart to move). Please someone help me so I can participate in the habbenings.

July 25, 2016 - 11:34

Nathaniel Jackson

Hey greentext fag. You're a little late to the party.

July 25, 2016 - 11:35

Landon Price

Looks like I'm right on time to be honest.

July 25, 2016 - 11:36

Andrew Carter

Listening to Clinton News Network:
It's time to rev up those guillotines, DNC attendees!

Bring wirecutters and lots of friends tomorrow with Molotovs

Christards, for instance, also by and large have altruistic pretensionsintentions, but that doesn't mean they don't have a variety of demented and contradictory assumptions as a result of following a fundamentally dysfunctional ideology.

Convention rules indeed, can you imagine if he were forced to hold his own counter-convention outside the walls?

I am very confident that number will increase as legal inquiries into the matter settle things for history over the coming months, in the way the [REDACTED] campaign should've been doing over the primaries' run.

July 25, 2016 - 11:38

Bentley Carter

We getting a roll call vote fuckers! GET HYPED FOR A FLOOR FIGHT

July 25, 2016 - 11:39

Levi Cruz

OH SHIT WERE GETTING A FLOOR FIGHT

Why did you people give up on him?

July 25, 2016 - 11:40

Jordan Rogers

Because he gave up on his voters.

July 25, 2016 - 11:41

Oliver Hernandez

Any links?

July 25, 2016 - 11:41

Cooper Nelson

It'll increase regardless. Nothing can stop this. B████ has all of the youth vote. It's the future wither the DNC likes it or not.

Don't do this to me, man. I don't need more heartbreak.

July 25, 2016 - 11:41

Jason Myers

see>>813732

July 25, 2016 - 11:42

Benjamin Ramirez

That's great.

He's still a little good boy for Clinton and the Dems that fucked him in the ass though.

July 25, 2016 - 11:43

Christian Cooper

That's just lip reading. We need something harder for this level of hype.

Is the threat of Clinton Foundation secrets big enough for a roll call?

July 25, 2016 - 11:45

Jack Cox

You guys think this speech tonight is going to be anything but the same stump speech but with a line about Clinton at the end

youtube.com/watch?v=WOL-kbzwGYM

July 25, 2016 - 11:46

Jayden Hall

While that's true, the same has been my experience with Christians: they are at least willing to listen and engage in civil dialogue, and they seem genuinely interested in helping others (despite their ulterior motives of proselytization). That has been the case with much of my highly religious right-wing family, at least.

July 25, 2016 - 11:46

Isaiah Sanders

People want to see the DNC floor fight, not about the speech. It's about how the delegates will react.

July 25, 2016 - 11:48

Isaac Ortiz

i want to believe

i am allowing myself to fall for this hype

July 25, 2016 - 11:51

Caleb Evans

But everyone already knows that it was a Russian hacker who gave the info to Wikileaks. Now, the FBI is saying it was the Russian government.

Also it's not that far fetched considering Trump stated he wouldn't fulfill NATO treaty obligations in certain circumstances, something the Russians would like to see happen.

edition.cnn.com/2016/07/21/politics/trump-foreign-policy-interview/

July 25, 2016 - 11:54

Jordan Nelson

This shilldyke on CNN I swear, take your false civility and shove it.

July 25, 2016 - 11:55

Austin Gonzalez

>demconvention.com/event-categories/july-25/
Heres today's schedule

July 25, 2016 - 11:59

Kayden Ortiz

This is just media spin, intended to put the actual email scandal down the memory hole.

Be scared of Putin! Obey your party and pay no attention to the corrupt clusterfuck behind the curtain!

July 25, 2016 - 12:03

Jeremiah Baker

twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/757538729170964481

What did he mean by this?

July 25, 2016 - 12:03

Josiah Adams

Something he'll shrug off as an electorate half-promise his team isn't obliged to fulfil.

July 25, 2016 - 12:04

Wyatt Cruz

Allowing such kooky (dare I say…… Spooky?) religiosity to sprout within the ranks of what should to be an unprejudiced, intellectual movement where none existed before seems suicidal to me. Pomo crit theory is patient zero for the cancer as far as I'm concerned.

If our own intelligence services are unwilling to root out corruption, I welcome any aid others are willing to render for whatever reason.

July 25, 2016 - 12:07

Ian Bennett

He's saying it's stupid to think that Putin leaked the emails because he likes Trump.

He's also saying that the DNC was stupid for writing the emails in the first place.

July 25, 2016 - 12:08

Andrew Murphy

Thanks, I didn't get it at first because of the weird redaction.

Good point, but I'd like it if RNC emails were leaked too.

July 25, 2016 - 12:13

Connor Gutierrez

if assange doesn't publish more incriminating emails then he's really rooting for trump rather than B████
rip

July 25, 2016 - 12:15

Jonathan Martinez

...

July 25, 2016 - 12:16

Levi Murphy

...

July 25, 2016 - 12:19

Charles Barnes

Well of course, Assange is for freedom :^)

jokes aside I'd like republican leaks too

July 25, 2016 - 12:19

Kevin Campbell

you can hear it pretty clearly

July 25, 2016 - 12:19

Benjamin Russell

What will happen at the roll call?

July 25, 2016 - 12:19

Landon Wood

heartbreak

July 25, 2016 - 12:20

Nathaniel Stewart

More smugness from Hillary

July 25, 2016 - 12:20

Jace Hernandez

Wow, shilling Shillary in return for "leverage" at the convention sure got results. Hopefully all that will be canceled for emergency lynchings and witch pyres.

July 25, 2016 - 12:21

Jackson Sanders

...

July 25, 2016 - 12:23

Grayson Nelson

how many can that even be anyway aren't they hard-right islamists?

July 25, 2016 - 12:23

Charles Rogers

Fucking hell

So basically, the *only* pro-Clinton argument that their supporters had, which is her alleged electability and hability to "stop Trump", is now gone.

This bitch might actually lose the election.

July 25, 2016 - 12:28

Sebastian Lopez

Why don't the dems drop Hillary and replace her with B████? That old man actually beat Trump every time.

July 25, 2016 - 12:29

Cooper Phillips

The party split is inevitable now. Nothing anyone does can change that.

July 25, 2016 - 12:29

Christopher Howard

Don't do it fam.
You're setting yourself up for dissapointment

July 25, 2016 - 12:32

Jace Anderson

Yeah, but nomination for what?

July 25, 2016 - 12:33

Leo Lopez

Because they would rather drink bleach than ever see B████ anywhere near the white house. He's a repudiation of the narrative they've spent decades building and if an actual progressive gets into the big chair it'll demolish their entire program of austerity and identity politics.

July 25, 2016 - 12:34

Aiden Davis

Who has to buy lunch for all the delegates.

July 25, 2016 - 12:35

Ethan Johnson

kek

July 25, 2016 - 12:35

Christopher Campbell

rip democratic party

July 25, 2016 - 12:36

Matthew Wright

Because they'd rather lose elections than lose control of the party.

July 25, 2016 - 12:36

Nolan Rodriguez

Parliamentary Labour Party is that you?

July 25, 2016 - 12:38

Jacob Morales

For who the dump the blame on once Queen Clinton gets trounced by Trump.

July 25, 2016 - 12:38

Noah Thomas

When will Wikileaks release the Clinton Foundation crimes?

pic related for hope

July 25, 2016 - 12:40

Julian Butler

Assange wants Trump to win so he'll release that when S█████ has no chance of replacing Hillary.

July 25, 2016 - 12:41

Julian Diaz

Didn't Wikileaks just stated that both Trump and Clinton are evil on twitter? the replies are full of trigggered trumpcucks

July 25, 2016 - 12:43

Liam Nelson

Wolff mentions that between Trump, Hilary, and B████, B████ and Jane S█████ are the only pair in a functional, loving relationship. I think it really shows whenever they're together, just how they act around one another, that it isn't just a political marriage held together by cynicism and wealth.

It's really rather nice.

July 25, 2016 - 12:43

Justin Harris

fuck off m8, she's shit.

July 25, 2016 - 12:43

Dylan Johnson

>Hillary Rotten Clinton
Trump pls

July 25, 2016 - 12:44

James Barnes

I have to admit that's p. good

July 25, 2016 - 12:46

Luke Gray

IT'S HAPPENING.

twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/757638420516581376/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

July 25, 2016 - 12:46

Robert Collins

I want to believe. I want to believe that miracles can happen.

July 25, 2016 - 12:48

Hudson Anderson

Oh shit, you're right.

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/757638903574781953

I'm sorry Assange for ever doubting you.

July 25, 2016 - 12:48

Charles White

youtube.com/watch?v=A52--FKUQgU

July 25, 2016 - 12:51

David Hernandez

>buh-buh-buh-but what about TRUMP'S emails!
It's not like they hacked the emails themselves you stupid fucking idiots the can only dump what they've been given

Fuck

July 25, 2016 - 12:51

Jacob Cook

As I said>>813838

I just can't be hurt like this again. I know my heart and dreams will shatter on the convention floor when he doesn't win it, but I'm too trusting and hopeful for a universe that is ultimately good and rightful that I'll end up believing he has a chance regardless.

July 25, 2016 - 12:51

Brandon Adams

How can you even doubt Assange?

He was blessed by Zizek.

July 25, 2016 - 12:51

Dominic Brooks

no, it's not happening.

July 25, 2016 - 12:52

Austin Edwards

...

July 25, 2016 - 12:52

Hunter Murphy

...

July 25, 2016 - 12:53

Ryder Thompson

At this point I don't really give a shit. He showed his true colors when he endorsed Hillary. I'm sure he'll cozy up with the rest of the Dems if he really does get the nomination. Or maybe he just endorsed her because he really just doesn't want Trump. Or maybe he just realized he would have to hold his nose and stay in the DNC's good graces to have any influence.

July 25, 2016 - 12:57

Thomas Nelson

I mean, that settles it, right? Everyone is voting now, right? I mean, it's Trevor Noah people

July 25, 2016 - 13:01

Isaiah Collins

Can you imagine if the Democratic Party had a democratic loophole like Labor? B████crats directly outvoting internal party bureaucrats, changing all their crooked rules, and kicking them out?

July 25, 2016 - 13:01

Caleb Adams

Fuck that John Stewart wannabee.
What an unfunny shill.

July 25, 2016 - 13:02

Nathan Reyes

Literally who?

Also fuck that shit.

July 25, 2016 - 13:03

Angel Parker

Huffpo and Trevor Noah will save us!

July 25, 2016 - 13:03

Aiden Taylor

I will shit myself if Clinton gets cockblocked out of the presidential nomination for the second, after such a vicious, roller coaster ride of a primary.

July 25, 2016 - 13:03

Carson Turner

Holy shit, CNN is showing the protests outside the DNC convention and there was a big red hammer and sickle sign. Now fess up, which of you faggots is it?

July 25, 2016 - 13:05

Isaac Peterson

lol that tom ass nigga

like black people doin so hot under obama right??? lol

July 25, 2016 - 13:05

Ayden Gomez

John Stewart's shitty, neoliberal shill of a replacement. I honestly think John Stewart was further left than he let on.

July 25, 2016 - 13:06

Jonathan Lewis

He was actually accused of being a socialist by someone from fox news once and he never denied it.

July 25, 2016 - 13:07

Tyler Smith

You mean a party that could actually win votes?
Nah

July 25, 2016 - 13:09

Angel Taylor

They will never have that, but the american institutions also give us a certain leeway for reform if we're strategic.

IMO, they should have a party within a party. Elect a number of progressives who will collaborate and cooperate with each other and who will not be afraid of splitting the vote if their demands are not met.

July 25, 2016 - 13:10

Ryan Baker

It's the latter two. He's not going to be making many friends with the DNC, which is why he's trying to replace them.

I think, right now, Hillary herself needs to apologize for, or at least condemn, the way the DNC treated the B████crats. I believe that's the only real way to get a truce out of this situation, which means it'll never fucking happen.

July 25, 2016 - 13:11

Jayden Lewis

...

July 25, 2016 - 13:12

Noah Hall

scuttlebutt is that this rollcall vote is going to be done in two rounds, with the normies voting first and the supers voting after

the dnc was trying to keep it under wraps because they think that giving the sandernistas a glimmer of hope just to snatch it away is going to cause a shitstorm

July 25, 2016 - 13:12

Caleb Harris

Never heard about that actually. I'd bet he's at least a socdem. I know he didn't have anything nice to say about Clinton. I can't help but feel that he left because he didn't wanna have to shill for Clinton. The new guy, takes shots at her, but he's definitely still in the tank for her. Lee Camp on RT is good if you enjoyed the old Daily Show.

July 25, 2016 - 13:13

William Butler

Is it this singing?

youtube.com/watch?v=gYb9sRLUDyM

July 25, 2016 - 13:13

Nathaniel Smith

I think so. Didn't Jon support S█████?

But let's not lionise him now. Everyone should remember the first Obama term where Jon would come to the Dem's defense at every turn and always shit on the likes of Wikileaks, Snowden, the OWS people, etc. Same goes for Colbert.

Trevor just seems like a blank page. I doubt he even had strong politics before that, other than the usual gay marriage/stop racism stuff. The sort of political worldview that is more designed to confront a reactionary uncle on Facebook instead of political institutions and power structures.

July 25, 2016 - 13:14

Henry Brooks

M8 he said he'd endorse the eventual Democratic nominee no matter what. And S█████ remember Nader, where an entire generation was put off of alternatives to the Democrats because they managed to (wrongly) blame a third-party candidate for two terms of Bush.

July 25, 2016 - 13:16

Matthew Wilson

didnt the daily show become completely irrelevant under him?

July 25, 2016 - 13:17

Brandon Perez

more or less but it was on the decline for a while

July 25, 2016 - 13:20

Juan Perry

Live from the free speech zone

July 25, 2016 - 13:22

Ian Edwards

CUT THE FENCE

July 25, 2016 - 13:23

Jose Davis

I despise the religious right so much and want Pence out of the White House so bad I'm still praying for shillary to pull through. I'd prefer a corporate dystopia than to have time set back to the Middle Ages. We all know that trump won't govern.

July 25, 2016 - 13:25

Ayden Kelly

This CNN stream is such a joke. They aren't even trying to cover their dogged commitment to suppressing protest and uncritically defending the DNC.

July 25, 2016 - 13:25

Isaac Clark

Where are you?

July 25, 2016 - 13:26

Logan Scott

At this point I'd be voting for Clinton if I were american too, which is also why I want all the media to shut the fuck up about everyone's "moral obligation" to support her because they're alienating everyone.

July 25, 2016 - 13:27

Josiah Brown

Righttt I almost forgot. But iirc, he only went after OWS after it was hijacked by SJWs. The other stuff you mentioned is pretty fucked though. I also heard he punished his writers for striking.

July 25, 2016 - 13:27

Evan Ward

Hell

Seriously it's hotter than fuck here

July 25, 2016 - 13:27

Grayson Clark

HOLY SHIT THEY ARE CHANTING B████ AND BOOING.

July 25, 2016 - 13:30

Oliver Taylor

BERNIE B████ B████ B████ B████

July 25, 2016 - 13:31

Easton Gutierrez

No need. Very easy to climb over. Cops posted fucking everywhere though.

July 25, 2016 - 13:31

Carter Phillips

THE CROWD IS CHANTING B████ INSIDE THE CONVENTION
HOLY SHIT WE MAY ACTUAALLY TAKE THE NOMINATION

July 25, 2016 - 13:32

Camden Wright

I'm too fragile for this.

July 25, 2016 - 13:33

Kayden Ward

POO POO PEE PEE GET OFF MY PRIVATE PROPERTEEEEEE

July 25, 2016 - 13:33

Luke Diaz

Lots of dirty gommies here

July 25, 2016 - 13:33

Asher Turner

Yeah, I'm watching it right now.
This is going to get insane, isn't it?

July 25, 2016 - 13:33

Luis Peterson

Meh, if Italy survived Berlusconi, America will survive Trump. And if he fucks up bad, that could even let an opening for leftism discourse. Thing that would be harder after Hillary's run.

July 25, 2016 - 13:34

Matthew Kelly

Could this be literally a coup?

July 25, 2016 - 13:34

Nathan Bailey

Oh shit, the DNC is on Twitch and it's much better quality. It's also low viewer count, so we can communize the chat.

GET IN HERE

twitch.tv/dnc2016

July 25, 2016 - 13:34

Kevin Roberts

Drink lots of water comrade, we need boots on the ground.

July 25, 2016 - 13:34

Adrian Watson

This person isn't doing that great with the anthem, but I respect the effort.

July 25, 2016 - 13:34

Carson Reed

...

July 25, 2016 - 13:35

Kevin Barnes

GET THOSE FIRES LIT

July 25, 2016 - 13:35

Luis Cook

...

July 25, 2016 - 13:36

Ethan Collins

...

July 25, 2016 - 13:36

Cooper Campbell

LEND YOUR ENERGY TO B████

July 25, 2016 - 13:37

Benjamin Jackson

...

July 25, 2016 - 13:38

Liam Baker

i don't think so m8

July 25, 2016 - 13:38

Gavin Bell

PSL is here

July 25, 2016 - 13:38

Jaxson Scott

telepromting hard in this fucking place

July 25, 2016 - 13:40

Samuel Richardson

Welcome to Philly.

July 25, 2016 - 13:40

Jonathan Diaz

I'll probably re-register as Independent or no party affiliation after this whole debacle. I registeted before I was into actual left wing thought anyway.

July 25, 2016 - 13:40

Wyatt Miller

FUCK THE FRANK

July 25, 2016 - 13:41

Cameron Jenkins

Gotta love those boos

July 25, 2016 - 13:42

James Thompson

Establishment cucks.

July 25, 2016 - 13:43

Hunter Foster

NAY

July 25, 2016 - 13:43

Nicholas Rodriguez

BULLSHIT

July 25, 2016 - 13:44

Alexander Butler

I just hope their ready for Red Scare 2017. And purge idpol too hopefully

July 25, 2016 - 13:45

Liam Evans

twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/149589104168939520

July 25, 2016 - 13:45

Alexander Ross

When do they officially vote on the nominee?

July 25, 2016 - 13:45

Julian Wright

We're already off to a great start.

July 25, 2016 - 13:45

Noah Miller

washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/07/25/bernie-sanders-started-a-political-revolution-now-he-cant-stop-it/?postshare=691469479152130&tid=ss_tw
archive.is/kV8Hj
B████ ██████ started a political revolution. Now he can’t stop it.

July 25, 2016 - 13:46

Dominic Torres

Y-YEAH

July 25, 2016 - 13:46

Andrew Torres

CLAP FASTER

July 25, 2016 - 13:46

Jack Sullivan

I stopped watching my depressed dad cooking with daughteru and cockhungry schoolgirl for this.
It better be worth it.

July 25, 2016 - 13:46

Brandon Collins

...

July 25, 2016 - 13:47

Jaxon Edwards

Bless you.

July 25, 2016 - 13:47

Brayden Long

Please tell me we'll get to hang all these people within the next few decades.

July 25, 2016 - 13:47

Oliver Phillips

wheres the stream?

July 25, 2016 - 13:47

Samuel Sanchez

twitch.tv/dnc2016

July 25, 2016 - 13:47

Aiden Morris

It's like they just realized he wasn't kidding when he said it not "me" but "us".

July 25, 2016 - 13:48

Isaiah Taylor

BBBBBBBBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO=

July 25, 2016 - 13:48

Ryan Adams

...

July 25, 2016 - 13:48

Caleb Carter

...

July 25, 2016 - 13:48

Oliver Gray

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

July 25, 2016 - 13:49

Aiden Long

EXCUSE
ME

July 25, 2016 - 13:49

Zachary Garcia

...

July 25, 2016 - 13:49

Nathan Sanders

Oh yeah. So much better than Cleveland.

July 25, 2016 - 13:49

Luis Diaz

DON'T STOP KEEP BOOING

July 25, 2016 - 13:49

Asher Powell

Alright, finally, Jesus.

I was wondering why no one was boo-ing.

July 25, 2016 - 13:50

Carter Lewis

...

July 25, 2016 - 13:50

Ian Brown

I can't hear enough booing!!!!

July 25, 2016 - 13:50

Nathan Ramirez

GET OFF THE STAGE

July 25, 2016 - 13:50

Owen Nelson

Oh my god that old jew socialist wizard started a fire.

July 25, 2016 - 13:50

Grayson White

now it's our turn with the DNC, we're coming buckos

July 25, 2016 - 13:50

Leo Moore

FUCK OFF CUNT

July 25, 2016 - 13:50

Robert Carter

I AM NOT A DEMOCRAT FUCK YOU CUNT

July 25, 2016 - 13:51

Xavier Garcia

PLS BE RESEPCTFUL

July 25, 2016 - 13:51

Nathaniel Phillips

NO WE WILL NOT BE SILENCED NEGRO SHILL

July 25, 2016 - 13:51

Landon Morales

Right? She's a DNC puppet. The disease is endemic, and it's in her to for them to select her.

July 25, 2016 - 13:52

Chase Morris

What are they chanting?

July 25, 2016 - 13:52

Jacob Collins

FEEL THE BERN

July 25, 2016 - 13:52

Sebastian Torres

...

July 25, 2016 - 13:52

Hudson Ortiz

COUNT THE VOTES

==HOLY SHITTTTTTTT=

July 25, 2016 - 13:52

Carter Sanders

What is that?

July 25, 2016 - 13:53

Nicholas Miller

Who's ready to watch the DNC turn into IRL shitposting for B████?

July 25, 2016 - 13:53

Cooper Foster

...

July 25, 2016 - 13:54

Logan Sanders

Come on people where's the energy. After those e-mail leaks they were not supposed to be getting a single word through.

July 25, 2016 - 13:55

Ian Young

THANKS DNC, FOR HANDING TRUMP THE PRESIDENCY YOU FUCKING IDIOTS

July 25, 2016 - 13:55

Wyatt Evans

It can only get better. The shit storm will grow larger.

July 25, 2016 - 13:55

Thomas Sullivan

Where is the booing?

July 25, 2016 - 13:55

Joseph Wilson

...

July 25, 2016 - 13:55

David Nelson

>THE AYES HAVE IT

July 25, 2016 - 13:55

Justin Mitchell

fudge….

July 25, 2016 - 13:55

Asher Martin

WHERE'S THE STREAM.

July 25, 2016 - 13:56

Daniel Ross

...

July 25, 2016 - 13:56

Benjamin Jenkins

FUCK OFF IDPOL CUNT

July 25, 2016 - 13:56

Kayden Nelson

...

July 25, 2016 - 13:56

Jason Garcia

twitch.tv/dnc2016

July 25, 2016 - 13:56

Jackson Rogers

Read the thread. Jesus Christ. Literally scroll up like 10 posts.

July 25, 2016 - 13:56

Brandon Murphy

well I'm done for now, I can't bear listening to these shills

July 25, 2016 - 13:56

Parker Johnson

HANG
SHOOT
BERN

July 25, 2016 - 13:56

Daniel Howard

...

July 25, 2016 - 13:56

Oliver Sanders

all over youtube

July 25, 2016 - 13:56

Julian Roberts

TIME TO WHEEL OUT THE GUILLOTINE.

July 25, 2016 - 13:56

Robert Moore

To be fair B████ shouldn't have endorsed Hill Dog in New Hampshire. Had he done a "FUCK YOU BITCH, FEEL THE BERN!!!!!" He probably would have a chance at nomination.

July 25, 2016 - 13:57

Ian Gray

...

July 25, 2016 - 13:57

Connor Wright

10/10 Hillary

July 25, 2016 - 13:57

Ethan Garcia

Amaama no Inazuma.
Don't stream, streaming is undialectical

July 25, 2016 - 13:57

Jose Edwards

Yeah guys sorry

I wanted to live shitpost with you guys but I can't bear that generic

July 25, 2016 - 13:57

Jaxon Ross

NOTHING LIKE SOME TACO BOWL, RIGHT?

July 25, 2016 - 13:57

Dominic King

The NAYs even seemed to a tad bit louder, haha.

July 25, 2016 - 13:57

Carter Perez

You think that someone will break down crying? haha

July 25, 2016 - 13:58

Liam Garcia

GRATUITOUS SPANISH

July 25, 2016 - 13:58

Zachary Roberts

Lies

July 25, 2016 - 13:58

Noah Miller

What happening so far, my stream is being a piece of shit.

July 25, 2016 - 13:59

Charles Perry

wait, what, what happened? I missed it

July 25, 2016 - 13:59

Ryan Wright

I'm waiting for someone to rush the stage.

July 25, 2016 - 13:59

Mason Moore

From the chat:
Goes perfectly with Fudge

July 25, 2016 - 13:59

Camden Mitchell

demconvention.com/live/

July 25, 2016 - 13:59

Sebastian Rivera

EVEN MORE GRATUITOUS SPANISH

[spoilers]I fucking hate liberals[/spoiler]

July 25, 2016 - 13:59

Bentley Davis

>EMPOWERS EVERY PERSON

July 25, 2016 - 13:59

Kayden Garcia

youtube.com/watch?v=tctViHyZeJY

July 25, 2016 - 14:00

Oliver Wilson

booing, B████ chants, upset speakers

July 25, 2016 - 14:00

Benjamin Butler

All the speakers look so bad a void of autheticity. I love it. The whole atmosphere went from jovial to pissed-off. This is awesome entertainment.

July 25, 2016 - 14:00

Jordan Foster

Why the Spanish hate?

And why is B████ censored?

July 25, 2016 - 14:00

Dylan James

Tomatos please.

July 25, 2016 - 14:00

Connor Brooks

Damn it Hill Dog, == SOMEONE SHIP THE GUY WHO DID THIS TO THE GULAG ==

July 25, 2016 - 14:01

Aiden Bell

WEW

July 25, 2016 - 14:01

Luke Johnson

It's not celebrating Latinos. It's exploiting them like circus freaks.

July 25, 2016 - 14:01

Daniel Perry

it's blatant pandering, especially after the taco bowl leak
memes fam

July 25, 2016 - 14:01

Ryder Nelson

Gotta appeal to those Hispanic consumers :^)

July 25, 2016 - 14:01

Colton Price

does this nigger have a fucking hillary pin

July 25, 2016 - 14:02

Adam Foster

Hollow pandering to the hispanic vote.

July 25, 2016 - 14:02

Sebastian Nguyen

...

July 25, 2016 - 14:02

Alexander Reyes

They were making fun of Hispanics' electoral docility. Fuck'em. It's all an act.

July 25, 2016 - 14:02

Angel Diaz

Recommendations that will be promptly ignored in a Hillary administration.

July 25, 2016 - 14:02

Ian Jenkins

leftypol joke

I think it's because of the dnc email leaks

July 25, 2016 - 14:02

Levi Morris

the endorsement

July 25, 2016 - 14:03

Blake Bell

Why would I hate my first language? I just hate the pandering.

July 25, 2016 - 14:03

Daniel Stewart

Just as long as you vote for the DNC appointee.

July 25, 2016 - 14:03

Logan Morales

He seems to have watery eyes, at least.

July 25, 2016 - 14:03

Angel Wilson

This is nothing but hot air.

July 25, 2016 - 14:03

Angel Rogers

Well they scorched Donald for the Taco Bowl Burrito master race , but clearly they're trying really hard to maintain the status quo.

yes

July 25, 2016 - 14:03

Julian Rodriguez

TACO BOWL ENGAGEMENT

July 25, 2016 - 14:04

William Bailey

AN ELECTION HAS THE SAME STAKES AS A BASKETBALL GAME RIGHT GUYS?

July 25, 2016 - 14:04

Connor Martinez

Oh boy I see Gatorade bought Ad Time.

July 25, 2016 - 14:04

John Ortiz

>THEY BOTH DESERVE THEIR CHEERS

July 25, 2016 - 14:04

Blake Carter

FUCK YOU

WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL THE BOOING?

July 25, 2016 - 14:04

Ayden Gonzalez

...

July 25, 2016 - 14:04

Asher Ortiz

Tbh that looks tasty

July 25, 2016 - 14:05

Caleb Long

But only one deserves the presidency.

July 25, 2016 - 14:05

Blake Taylor

this ideology is fucking nuts

July 25, 2016 - 14:05

Nathan Murphy

Did they kick out all the people that were chanting B████ and booing?

July 25, 2016 - 14:05

Bentley Stewart

We can not reconcile

July 25, 2016 - 14:05

Samuel Smith

IF YOU SAY IT ENUFF ITS TRUE

July 25, 2016 - 14:05

Jack King

Why not one of those newer T-Series tanks with anti anti tank missile armor?

July 25, 2016 - 14:05

Jaxon Wilson

...

July 25, 2016 - 14:06

Joseph Butler

when is the nominee officially selected?

July 25, 2016 - 14:06

Cameron Garcia

...

July 25, 2016 - 14:06

Adam Adams

Michael Browns mom too.

July 25, 2016 - 14:06

Noah Morris

"let's cheer for hilary come on guys"

July 25, 2016 - 14:06

Aaron Martinez

Let's not and say we did.

July 25, 2016 - 14:06

Josiah Martin

DONT FORGET TO THANK COMRADE BERNSTER

July 25, 2016 - 14:06

David Stewart

...

July 25, 2016 - 14:07

Hunter Price

Trips for someone to rush the stage.

July 25, 2016 - 14:07

Jayden Carter

...

July 25, 2016 - 14:07

Joshua Allen

...

July 25, 2016 - 14:07

Nathan Garcia

HAHA IM NOT BIAS GUYS

MADAME PRESIDENT

July 25, 2016 - 14:07

Justin Phillips

Such unity.

July 25, 2016 - 14:07

Joseph Foster

Square Pizza?

July 25, 2016 - 14:07

Leo Powell

You weren't even trying.

July 25, 2016 - 14:08

Grayson Diaz

...

July 25, 2016 - 14:08

Dominic Myers

...

July 25, 2016 - 14:08

Luis Rogers

at this point i fully expect a riot to break out

July 25, 2016 - 14:08

Jonathan Gonzalez

WE STILL DUMBLEDOR

July 25, 2016 - 14:08

Carter White

This is America in 2016

This is my country

July 25, 2016 - 14:09

Anthony James

With or without dindus?

July 25, 2016 - 14:09

Jayden Brown

...

July 25, 2016 - 14:09

Aiden Gutierrez

kekkest of keks

July 25, 2016 - 14:09

Evan Gomez

Uh what? They will open the nomination so they can say B████ lost 'fair and square'? Fuck this.

July 25, 2016 - 14:09

Henry Thomas

A daily reminder harry potter is now an undercover FBI agent tracking the Neo-Nazis.

July 25, 2016 - 14:09

Samuel Nelson

Why didn't the democrats start the opening ceremony with a moment of silence for Harambe?

Absolutely sickening.

July 25, 2016 - 14:10

Hudson Powell

What was the quote?

You can't make this shit up

July 25, 2016 - 14:10

Austin Mitchell

"It takes great courage to stand up to your enemies, but even greater courage to stand up to your friends."

July 25, 2016 - 14:10

Easton Moore

Because animals would be trained to vote for Hilary.

July 25, 2016 - 14:11

Landon Wood

LITERALLY MEMES

July 25, 2016 - 14:11

Ryan Ross

For those wondering about the Dumbledore quote:

washingtonpost.com/news/inspired-life/wp/2016/07/21/have-you-read-harry-potter-then-you-might-be-less-likely-to-support-donald-trump-study-says/

July 25, 2016 - 14:11

Ayden White

...

July 25, 2016 - 14:11

Justin Ramirez

GULAG

July 25, 2016 - 14:11

Logan Robinson

The leaks will come out after the nomination.
It's a leap of faith for the delegates at this point.

July 25, 2016 - 14:12

Brandon Gutierrez

BERNIE B████ B████ B████

July 25, 2016 - 14:12

Robert Brown

If only Mr Cummings was so lucky.

July 25, 2016 - 14:12

Samuel Adams

WHY NOT GET RID OF ALL OF THEM YOU CUNT?

July 25, 2016 - 14:12

Brayden Kelly

ahahahahahahahahahahahaha dude are some of you younger than 21

July 25, 2016 - 14:12

Jose Diaz

WHAT IS THIS BLACK MAGIC

July 25, 2016 - 14:12

Cooper Walker

There are more leaks?

July 25, 2016 - 14:12

Alexander Rogers

BEAUTIFUL LIKE NII-SAN

July 25, 2016 - 14:12

Jordan Clark

proofs?

July 25, 2016 - 14:12

Jack Jenkins

someone needs to shop this as B████ walking and then turning into Stalin

July 25, 2016 - 14:13

Sebastian Carter

Because they got voted down 4 fucking times in a row after the Hillary delegates tricked them into compromises the B████ delegates gave.

July 25, 2016 - 14:13

Brayden Cooper

Big mistake.

July 25, 2016 - 14:14

Benjamin Bennett

Yes, yes, well done Hillary, well done Hillary

HOWEVER

July 25, 2016 - 14:14

Grayson White

Hillary just stole B████

July 25, 2016 - 14:14

Eli Kelly

GOD DAMNIT user

July 25, 2016 - 14:14

Adam Phillips

Yeah, sure. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

July 25, 2016 - 14:14

Tyler Russell

Someone rush the stage. I want this to be meme worthy.

July 25, 2016 - 14:15

Ryder Cox

DUDE PARTY UNITY LMAO

July 25, 2016 - 14:15

William Powell

...

July 25, 2016 - 14:15

Adam Campbell

This, Clinton is going to get it. However, you're completely wrong that she's going to win.

July 25, 2016 - 14:15

Robert Richardson

Is that really from the Coraline move? I don't remember that scene. Is there a sequel I'm unaware of?

July 25, 2016 - 14:15

Nathan Clark

Apparently the reason the BOOs (at least on tv/twitch) are much quieter now are because they moved the Shillary supporters around all the mics

July 25, 2016 - 14:16

Chase Watson

She looks like the purple hair girl from Kick Ass

July 25, 2016 - 14:16

Cameron Hall

yeah you fucks, this country is not about you anymore, it's our future so why the fuck do you assholes keep voting against our generation? KYS

July 25, 2016 - 14:16

Brandon Phillips

what the fuck are these chants

July 25, 2016 - 14:16

Jacob Bell

YES

July 25, 2016 - 14:16

Gavin Gomez

Hilldog hand rubbing confirmed

July 25, 2016 - 14:16

Angel Hill

If they do then it's bullshit that Assange supports B████ and not Trump.

July 25, 2016 - 14:16

Levi Barnes

HARD

AND

MESSY

THATS WHAT DEMOCRACY IS

NOT ONE PERSON ONE VOTE

BUT SO FUCKING HARD AND MESSY THAT THE PERSON WHO SHOULDNT GET ELECTED WINS!!!

July 25, 2016 - 14:16

Michael Young

Guys, simple chants. Complex chants become garbled.

July 25, 2016 - 14:17

Aiden Brown

...

July 25, 2016 - 14:17

Alexander Adams

BUT IT DOESN'T BERN HILLARY

July 25, 2016 - 14:17

Jaxon Thompson

That "this is what democracy looks like" chant comes from Zuccotti Park. Ironic.

July 25, 2016 - 14:17

Justin Hall

Link for people just joining?

July 25, 2016 - 14:17

Aaron Gray

woops didn't mean to page you

July 25, 2016 - 14:18

Luke Miller

No that's what the Mainer woman said.

July 25, 2016 - 14:18

Lincoln Bennett

Zizek would have a fucking field day

July 25, 2016 - 14:18

Levi Murphy

Even Gavin made a pretty good point about these fucks.

July 25, 2016 - 14:18

Easton Ortiz

...

July 25, 2016 - 14:18

Luke Fisher

HILLARY HILLARY HILLARY

July 25, 2016 - 14:18

Juan Ross

...

July 25, 2016 - 14:18

Nicholas Anderson

BUILD A BONFIRE
BUILD A BONFIRE
PUT CLINTON ON THE TOP
STICK THE RICH IN THE MIDDLE
AND WE'LL BERN THE FUCKING LOT

July 25, 2016 - 14:18

Adam Johnson

THAT IS NOT COOL BY BROCK'S RULES

July 25, 2016 - 14:18

Logan Collins

...

July 25, 2016 - 14:18

Lucas Walker

HYPOCRITE

July 25, 2016 - 14:18

Austin Walker

This sounds like a fucking clusterfuck of trying to justify completely rigging the election.

It reminds me of Mitt Romeny's concession speech back in 2012.

July 25, 2016 - 14:18

Brody Rodriguez

Yeah sorry accidentally paged you

July 25, 2016 - 14:19

Kayden Ward

Baby Boomers didn't make Witch House so we're automatically better actually

July 25, 2016 - 14:19

Isaiah Phillips

seriously?
Where did they do that?

July 25, 2016 - 14:19

Lincoln Taylor

Were they chanting Hillary or hypocrite?

July 25, 2016 - 14:19

Parker Williams

The booing is barely audible now. Did they fuck with the crowd mics?

July 25, 2016 - 14:19

Christopher Howard

...

July 25, 2016 - 14:19

Xavier Johnson

Include the Saudi's, they paid for 20% of Hilldog's campaign.

July 25, 2016 - 14:19

Aaron Moore

Nevermind I'm a mong

July 25, 2016 - 14:19

Grayson Taylor

What's the difference?

July 25, 2016 - 14:19

Noah Gray

We need to edit this

July 25, 2016 - 14:19

Luis Perry

What a shitty speech

July 25, 2016 - 14:20

Jackson Murphy

What the fuck is happening? I just got out of my bunker? Did he win? Did we lose?

July 25, 2016 - 14:20

Justin Wilson

>THE AYES HAVE IT

July 25, 2016 - 14:20

Isaac Adams

...

July 25, 2016 - 14:20

William Garcia

Why did he even try. Everyone hated him.

July 25, 2016 - 14:20

Lucas Gonzalez

I dunno, at the convention. word on the street is it's much louder on the floor, but this is just what I'm hearing

July 25, 2016 - 14:21

Ian Sanchez

Yeah it's tough.

Very few people have ideals and principles that survive that early 30s - late 40s age bracket where you're constantly told that accepting the way things are and focusing on your carreer/family is synonymous with "maturity".

July 25, 2016 - 14:21

Matthew Edwards

this generation is the most class conscious since the early 20th, regardless of their liberalism, they have far more potential than any other in decades. Implying that they are the same is disingenuous at best, and outright lying at worst

July 25, 2016 - 14:21

Juan Wood

Silly B████bros, did you think your "No"s mattered?

July 25, 2016 - 14:21

Benjamin Rivera

They could be tweeting the ayes on their phones and they'd still have it.

July 25, 2016 - 14:21

David Miller

that's what the word on the street is

July 25, 2016 - 14:21

Jaxson Smith

what is this

July 25, 2016 - 14:21

Evan Thompson

DELICIOUS.

July 25, 2016 - 14:22

Aaron Cook

lol and what happened just now seems to kinda confirm it

this fucking cracker looked REALLY fucking disconcerted

July 25, 2016 - 14:22

Alexander Butler

dubs for someone to rush the stage

July 25, 2016 - 14:22

Anthony Miller

reroll

July 25, 2016 - 14:23

Samuel Adams

They're ready to lead if they rig it.

July 25, 2016 - 14:23

Ryan Green

I'm talkin' 'bout the Boomers when they were the same age as the current crop of slacktivist hipsters, you dunce.

July 25, 2016 - 14:23

Owen Sanchez

Watching the DNC try to get Hilary cheered is like watching WWE try and get Roman Reigns cheered.

July 25, 2016 - 14:23

William Allen

...

July 25, 2016 - 14:23

Julian Martinez

A congress committed to doing absolutely nothing but suck Republican cock.

July 25, 2016 - 14:23

Aaron Rivera

...

July 25, 2016 - 14:24

Nathaniel Rivera

Well the Boomer Geezers our number Millennials by the truck load and they keep living == LONGER AND LONGER ==

July 25, 2016 - 14:24

Henry Morgan

Old man can't speak.

July 25, 2016 - 14:24

Thomas Taylor

Poor guy

July 25, 2016 - 14:24

Matthew Russell

Stop trying.

July 25, 2016 - 14:25

Christopher Gomez

ITS THE REPUBLICANS FAULT EVEN THOUGH WE'VE HAD A DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT FOR 8 FUCKING YEARS

July 25, 2016 - 14:25

Leo Evans

M8 have you forgotten the 60's where everyone in college was expected to be anti-capitalist, when people quoted Mao Zedong and literally took part in armed insurrection?

Political idealism fades away quickly. We must be aware of that now, so we're not overly optimistic about the future and so we don't make up a bunch of faulty political alignments.

When this generation is occupying the positions of power and influence, they too will grow more conservative.

July 25, 2016 - 14:25

Jackson Russell

...

July 25, 2016 - 14:25

Gavin Allen

Wheres the boos?

July 25, 2016 - 14:25

Landon Peterson

According to the internal DNC documents the Mexican voting bloc is even bigger than the boomers now

July 25, 2016 - 14:25

Colton Howard

'FOR THE FIRST TWO YEARS OF OBAMA'S PRESIDENCY WE HAD A DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS THAT WAS COMMITTED TO PROGRESSIVE REFORM
Did he really, REALLY just say that about the Blue Dog traitors that cockblocked us on a public option for single-payer healthcare even seeing the floor for debate?

July 25, 2016 - 14:25

Anthony Bailey

you're right about the latter, but millennials overtook boomers already

census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2015/cb15-113.html

it's just that we don't vote as much, blame a ton of reasons, but that's why we don't have representation

July 25, 2016 - 14:26

Blake Hernandez

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHA

July 25, 2016 - 14:26

Zachary Scott

Did he really say D? That long pause until he said Q was cringey as hell.

July 25, 2016 - 14:26

Hunter Smith

Does this mean we win?

July 25, 2016 - 14:26

Christopher Torres

They fucked with the audience mics

July 25, 2016 - 14:26

Levi Hall

nobody wins

July 25, 2016 - 14:26

Samuel Martin

Domosexuals

July 25, 2016 - 14:26

Brayden Hall

Those boos just keep coming.

July 25, 2016 - 14:27

Josiah Young

...

July 25, 2016 - 14:27

Nicholas Cook

WE'VE SEEN THE DISASTROUS RESULTS OF REPUBLICAN IDEAS IN OBAMA AMIRITE?

HEY REMEMBER MARTIN O' MALLEY GUIZE LGBTQ!!!!

July 25, 2016 - 14:27

Ryder Butler

Well less are going to vote now with that's going on.

July 25, 2016 - 14:27

Colton Phillips

Revisionism at it's finest.

July 25, 2016 - 14:27

Easton Scott

the economy wasn't in the shitter, and wealth inequality wasn't off the rails, the downfall of the left was inevitable for that generation. The only thing keeping it afloat was race riots, and after those went away with liberal pandering, so did the left anger.

July 25, 2016 - 14:28

Ethan Thomas

all of that was not a mass movement. sorry, but they were always a vocal minority. there was no huge shift of leftists turning into liberals, just normies ignoring all the turmoil entirely.

July 25, 2016 - 14:28

Nicholas Cruz

Awww shit, it's that donkey from the Comey hearing

July 25, 2016 - 14:28

Angel Stewart

Then Hillary failed that test.

July 25, 2016 - 14:28

Juan Thomas

This election is basically asking the youth to radicalize further further further into the left

July 25, 2016 - 14:30

Jonathan Campbell

...

July 25, 2016 - 14:30

Kevin Morales

Are you forgetting the 70's crisis? Actually people seemed more right-wing after that than before.

July 25, 2016 - 14:30

Connor Nelson

Flat-out wrong

July 25, 2016 - 14:30

Logan Morgan

...

July 25, 2016 - 14:31

Samuel Nguyen

pure idpol

July 25, 2016 - 14:31

Levi Turner

No shit. The Democrats saw the Tea Party and said "I want some of that chaos".

July 25, 2016 - 14:31

Jason Sanchez

WE DONT FIGHT FORE THE POOR THOUGH HAHAHA XD

July 25, 2016 - 14:31

David Thompson

What are these forced as fuck chants from Hillary's side?

July 25, 2016 - 14:32

Connor Scott

CUM ON GUIS, WE GOTTA VOTE FOR HILLARY AS DA PRESIDENT

July 25, 2016 - 14:32

Nathan Hill

The Democratic party is now the old man party, and the Republicans are also the old man party.

Everything they say is incredibly hollow, they don't understand the younger demographics, and they're just trying to con them into voting for them to stay in power.

If they were hoping to stem the political revolution, then they're doing an incredibly bad job at it.

July 25, 2016 - 14:32

Easton Rodriguez

OURS

July 25, 2016 - 14:32

Noah Torres

NO TPP

July 25, 2016 - 14:32

David Lopez

LGBT LGBT LGBT LGBT LGBT

July 25, 2016 - 14:32

Josiah Powell

...

July 25, 2016 - 14:33

Christian Johnson

What are they chanting? I can't hear it well

July 25, 2016 - 14:33

Brandon Martinez

see

July 25, 2016 - 14:33

Cameron Edwards

NO

TPP

July 25, 2016 - 14:33

Oliver Cruz

This is amazing

July 25, 2016 - 14:34

Christian Watson

That's what I thought at first

July 25, 2016 - 14:34

Dominic Diaz

Again, the same Baby Boomers who are now Geezers who protested back in the 60 now run the show and collude with each other for power.

This is evident with Jeb Bush and John Kasich where they shilled for amnesty for votes.

July 25, 2016 - 14:34

Easton Mitchell

HIGHLY EXPENSIVE

July 25, 2016 - 14:34

Jace Jenkins

whatever dude

July 25, 2016 - 14:35

Liam Walker

Double Dubs for B████ Rush.

July 25, 2016 - 14:35

Matthew Bell

NO TPP

That's because 1960s non-economic issues alienated the already pre-employment youth from the labor movement, allowing porky to crush the union core of the New Deal coalition unopposed.

July 25, 2016 - 14:35

Evan Powell

MUH WYMYN
MUH BLACKS
MUH GAYZ

July 25, 2016 - 14:35

James Davis

OBAMA

O B A M A
B
A
M
A

July 25, 2016 - 14:35

Samuel Jones

Oh no, the negra is going to cry

July 25, 2016 - 14:35

Gavin Johnson

fuck off Holla Forums

July 25, 2016 - 14:35

Zachary Campbell

NO

TPP

July 25, 2016 - 14:36

Landon Jones

BLM was bought and paid for by George Soros.

July 25, 2016 - 14:36

Elijah Price

...

July 25, 2016 - 14:36

Anthony Anderson

😂😂feelin' #bless today 😂😂

July 25, 2016 - 14:36

Austin Taylor

ITS ABOUT GENERATIONS YET UNBORN

THATS WHY YOU VOTE FOR THE PERSON WHO'S GONNA FUCK EM

July 25, 2016 - 14:36

Connor Stewart

...

July 25, 2016 - 14:36

Lincoln Allen

...

July 25, 2016 - 14:37

Dylan Sanders

Oh come on they're playing ads on the stream

July 25, 2016 - 14:38

Liam Brown

nice bantz tbh fam.

July 25, 2016 - 14:38

Hunter Wilson

look, I get you think it's the same, but it isn't, neoliberal policies didn't start to take hold until the 70s, and they didn't begin to snowball until the late 80s-early 90s, the left can't take hold until the thumbscrews get turned hard enough. We're only at that point now, and with 4-8 years of shillary/trump, the thumbs will break, this isn't the 60s-70s, the economic, political, and legal issues were not anywhere close to as bad as they are now all at the same time. You can point to race issues, war, whatever, but they weren't intersecting together with a terrible economy made worse by a bought and sold government and legal system, at least to the levels of today.
Coupled that with the internet, instant information exchange through phones, massive political divides in society, automation eliminating jobs, outsourcing, wages stagnant since the 70s, etc etc.

We are in new territory, this is unprecedented, trying to compare it to any other time is just not going to work

July 25, 2016 - 14:38

Christopher Morgan

It's been that way for like

a year

July 25, 2016 - 14:38

Xavier Clark

I'm not seeing Berners going for Hillbros necks.

July 25, 2016 - 14:39

Luis Ramirez

Just chillin in Cedar Rapids

July 25, 2016 - 14:40

Jaxon Bell

Lmao, of course no footage of Cornel West at the platform meetings.

Also, I love the black man with the deep voice narrating this video package, as well as the trap music bed. LOL.

July 25, 2016 - 14:40

Matthew Murphy

...

July 25, 2016 - 14:40

Nathan Torres

...

July 25, 2016 - 14:40

Gavin Richardson

That was a movie once.

July 25, 2016 - 14:40

Ryder Brown

Oh come on WHAT'S WITH THE ADS!

July 25, 2016 - 14:41

James Flores

You got the whole thing?

This.

July 25, 2016 - 14:41

Carson Sanders

...

July 25, 2016 - 14:41

Blake Wright

👌😂🔥 #ROASTED👌😂🔥

July 25, 2016 - 14:41

Carson Fisher

They keep pushing this unity amd unified game. It's fun changing the narrative.

July 25, 2016 - 14:42

Eli Martin

I wish. The guy's got pretty poor comedic timing and lame writers.

July 25, 2016 - 14:43

Lucas Davis

...

July 25, 2016 - 14:43

Nolan Morris

Guy on the right is the Gov. of Connecticut. This mother fucker has a 24% approval rating. For some context the last CT governor to have such a low approval rating was Roland and he signed in disgrace for corruption

July 25, 2016 - 14:44

John Perry

...

July 25, 2016 - 14:45

David Thomas

...

July 25, 2016 - 14:45

Colton Hall

BASED BREEN

HAHAHAHAHA

July 25, 2016 - 14:46

Caleb Reyes

This guy looks like he's going to cry.

July 25, 2016 - 14:46

Blake Howard

...

July 25, 2016 - 14:46

Zachary Reed

Is that Qaddafi?

July 25, 2016 - 14:46

Alexander Richardson

he was crying before coming on stage, afraid of the angry mob waiting outside

July 25, 2016 - 14:47

Christopher Martin

The man talking right now doesn't even look interested in what he's saying

July 25, 2016 - 14:47

Jaxson Thomas

BERNIE B████ B████

July 25, 2016 - 14:47

Angel Clark

this is sad

July 25, 2016 - 14:47

Levi Hernandez

Neil Breen. A god amongst men.

July 25, 2016 - 14:47

Evan Morris

save us neil breen.

July 25, 2016 - 14:48

Camden Turner

no guys no manipulation here

July 25, 2016 - 14:48

Caleb Allen

This guy is talking about how Union busting is a big part of the republican platform while Hillary served on the board of Walmart for 4 years in the late 80s and early 90s

July 25, 2016 - 14:48

Julian Hall

Hill Dog logo guy looks like he's been blazing it.

July 25, 2016 - 14:49

Kevin Anderson

Mixed in with all the idpol horseshit, this guy is saying the first decent rhetoric I've heard all day. Sad.

July 25, 2016 - 14:49

Gabriel Brooks

...

July 25, 2016 - 14:50

John Murphy

But yeah, he sounds lower energy than Jeb.

July 25, 2016 - 14:50

Benjamin Myers

needs more donkey

July 25, 2016 - 14:51

Parker Ortiz

This guy looks like brown david brent

July 25, 2016 - 14:51

Thomas Morgan

Oh boy B████ delegate

July 25, 2016 - 14:51

Joseph James

good shit fam

July 25, 2016 - 14:51

Josiah Ortiz

He's pissed of his vote base just now.

July 25, 2016 - 14:52

Ryan Mitchell

Why are all the Hillary supporters holding up anti-Trump signs instead of Hillary signs?

Speaks volumes imo.

July 25, 2016 - 14:52

Carson Cox

Those jury-rigged
posters
that says

July 25, 2016 - 14:53

Leo Sullivan

Bernie trumps hillary when?

July 25, 2016 - 14:53

Grayson Gomez

This fucking shill trying to steal credit from the supreme court.

July 25, 2016 - 14:54

Kevin Davis

Is this guy related to the ewu professor that wasn't black

July 25, 2016 - 14:54

Josiah Gonzalez

Good speaker

July 25, 2016 - 14:54

Andrew Allen

First Harry Potter, now this!?

July 25, 2016 - 14:54

David Harris

They probably don't want to get escorted out

July 25, 2016 - 14:54

Carson Lee

"DNC OFFERS SINCERE APOLOGY TO S█████, HIS SUPPORTERS"

on CNN

top kek

July 25, 2016 - 14:54

Parker Hill

Good lord I can't wait for the election to end. Check those quads though.

July 25, 2016 - 14:55

Ryder Hall

>Trans dragondildos

July 25, 2016 - 14:56

Aaron Ortiz

the only party mlk was ever apart of was the republican party but he left when he started preaching about civil rights

July 25, 2016 - 14:56

Tyler Brown

THEY ALL STARTED WARS

July 25, 2016 - 14:56

Ryder Jenkins

HILLARY HILLARY HILLARY HILLARY

July 25, 2016 - 14:57

Henry Edwards

How did THAT slip in there!?

July 25, 2016 - 14:57

Julian Sullivan

I can't wait to tell alton sterling that Obama ended racism in America

July 25, 2016 - 14:57

Anthony Adams

AYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

July 25, 2016 - 14:58

Gavin Thomas

They want their plantation to pay off.

July 25, 2016 - 14:58

Liam Hernandez

You forget that neoliberalism is not a novelty per se, it's more a return to capitalism's pre-War arrangements when the market were the main driving force behind the economy and politics. Sure, with some differences, like the global downfall of protectionism, but even those come with some benefits (like cheaper commodities) that will appease the population.

And Inequality is indeed a good point, but we only recently reached the levels of Inequality in the first world that were already there in the beginning of the century. And Inequality alone does not create revolution: Brazil has been living with one of the toughest wealth disparities since the 19th century and the elite is still having it their way without interruption since then.

And let's not forget the actually existing Socialism. Although the Soviet bloc was a prime example of why Socialism was shit in the conservative's narrative, its existence also helped finance, mobilize and organize left-wing groups abroad. Even in the United States the Black Panthers, for example, were greatly helped by ML countries. North Vietnam negotiated POWs through them at one point. Huey Newton visited China officially before Nixon. They sought refuge, finance and guidance from Cuba, Algiers, Russia.

We, on the other hand, are in a situation where there's virtually no socialist institution to turn to. The post-WW1 generation had the Soviet Union, the pre-WW1 generation had the International. We have nothing, which is why we go apeshit over left-wing lone wolf candidates.

This fatalistic "the technology/the coming crisis/the demographic change/the new economic developments will bring Socialism" mentality has been deluding the western Left for over a century now. Let's drop it in the 20th century where it belongs.

July 25, 2016 - 14:58

Blake Perez

twitter.com/regated/status/757690019138117632

Signs getting confiscated.

July 25, 2016 - 14:58

Ryan Green

Oh boy. == IT'S HAPPENING ==

July 25, 2016 - 14:59

Brandon Cook

It's frankly fucking unreal that they rely on voice votes to decide upon things in a convention of 2000+ people.

July 25, 2016 - 14:59

John Scott

BOOO!!
THE AYYS HAVE IT
You can't make this shit up

July 25, 2016 - 14:59

Joseph Edwards

They can at least use text votes to tally them.

July 25, 2016 - 14:59

Brayden Gutierrez

Say it with me folks
PARTY
UNITY

July 25, 2016 - 14:59

Justin Nguyen

Time to rush the stage

July 25, 2016 - 14:59

Jack Richardson

Did we lose?

July 25, 2016 - 15:00

Jackson Rogers

THE AYES HAVE IT

YET AGAIN

July 25, 2016 - 15:01

John Davis

new chair of the DNC looks like the first citizen of vault city from fallout 2

July 25, 2016 - 15:02

Ryan Taylor

Did i turn on the RNC by mistake or

July 25, 2016 - 15:02

Colton Bell

The RNC didn't pander, the DNC is pulling all the tryhard tricks.

July 25, 2016 - 15:03

Kayden Howard

Who let George Soros take the stage?

July 25, 2016 - 15:03

Ethan James

FDR, and the larger forces that fueled him, like anarchist terrorism and Eugene Debs' socialism, are an abberation that shattered neoliberalism to create the first 1st-world nation in history.

Offshoring and mass economic immigration have devastated American working class incomes so severely that inflation-corrected consumer prices have stayed flat at best or GONE UP relative to earnings.

July 25, 2016 - 15:04

Jacob Miller

...

July 25, 2016 - 15:04

Elijah Moore

They are threatening delegates with the loss of their credentials if they don't hand in the signs according to some tweets.

July 25, 2016 - 15:04

Nicholas Hernandez

the fuck you talking about? The first night was a 4 hour long soldier muh troops and f-16s circle jerk

July 25, 2016 - 15:04

Joseph Reed

...

July 25, 2016 - 15:04

David Ortiz

Geez

July 25, 2016 - 15:05

Justin Lopez

In case nobody believes, i got you backed up fam.

source - books.google.com/books?id=qW-NYdIefPgC&pg=PA84#v=onepage&q&f=false

July 25, 2016 - 15:05

Landon Lopez

What about the Zodiac Killer getting BTFO'd along with his shills?

July 25, 2016 - 15:05

Levi Perez

Have they been playing shitty music to heighten the spectacle of this farce this whole time or did this just start happening?

July 25, 2016 - 15:06

Caleb Wilson

nigga what are you talking about, neoliberalism didn't even exist until WWII and it wasn't established at all until the 80s.

July 25, 2016 - 15:06

Anthony Cook

WHERE THE FUCK IS MY FLOOR FIGHT

YOU LIED TO ME LEFTYPOL

YOU GAVE ME HOPE

July 25, 2016 - 15:06

Juan Myers

HE DON DID IT!!!!

July 25, 2016 - 15:07

Matthew Ward

Roll dubs harder.

July 25, 2016 - 15:07

Jackson Miller

floor fights only happen during the voice vote for president bro. If it is going to happen it will happen then

July 25, 2016 - 15:07

Elijah Cruz

Just wait for Berni,e to show up.

July 25, 2016 - 15:08

Levi Garcia

A 12-year-old is endorsing Hillary.

July 25, 2016 - 15:08

Isaiah Allen

...

July 25, 2016 - 15:08

Daniel Lee

...

July 25, 2016 - 15:08

Xavier Ross

I thought I heard something about a roll call vote though

July 25, 2016 - 15:09

Anthony Evans

Then why are you supporting Hillary you fucking traitor.

July 25, 2016 - 15:10

Evan Gonzalez

Democrats as party did not fight for the Civil rights movement. The bill was only passed thanks to republican support. Southern democrats hated it more than anything and it made them leave the party during the southern strategy of the Nixon era.

July 25, 2016 - 15:10

Christopher Roberts

I got banned from chat for 600 seconds for typing >PIGPIGPIGPIGPIGPIGPIGPIG!

July 25, 2016 - 15:11

Easton White

Dems revise history, more at 11.

July 25, 2016 - 15:11

Asher King

A daily reminder Hill Dog kissed Robert Byrd a Klansman who filibustered the Civil Rights act.

July 25, 2016 - 15:12

Blake Jones

The likes of FDR are not aberrations, they're conditioned responses to agitation that is as integral to bourgeois order as private property itself. Bismarck pushed for reforms of a similar character almost a century before, and they will happen again and will succeed in alienating the people again.

And offshoring will not bring enough discontentment to push for revolution, not as long as enough jobs are created to keep the bulk of the population employed. Offshoring means steady access to cheap labour, which means cheaper commodities, which means more spending and more jobs elsewhere. The population is ready to face a massive lowering of their living standards as long as they can find work.

And remember: although the mobility of labor and capital are signs of capitalism's utter shittiness, it's usually the Right that capitalizes with it politically. All of Trump's voters agree with us on how bad it is.

July 25, 2016 - 15:12

Nicholas Powell

I have such hopes for the moment he appears on stage and starts shillarying, don't let me down.

July 25, 2016 - 15:12

Carson Sanders

Bernie Bros rush the stage when.

July 25, 2016 - 15:12

Levi Clark

I just got here.

Did B████ speak yet?
Why are only old corpses speaking?

July 25, 2016 - 15:13

Angel Flores

You sometimes see the guys in black still looking for B████ signs, top kek.

July 25, 2016 - 15:13

Aaron Gray

Is this it Comrades? Id-pol personified? Pure un-distilled id-pol. The muh vagina meme in one individual

July 25, 2016 - 15:13

Tyler Parker

Rolling for stage rushing!

July 25, 2016 - 15:13

Jaxon King

Didn't he get moved to 10 because he bitched about not being in primetime?

July 25, 2016 - 15:14

Justin Lee

Re-roll.

July 25, 2016 - 15:14

Brandon Cox

...

July 25, 2016 - 15:14

Bentley Harris

re-rolls don't count. you guys are shit at meme magic.

July 25, 2016 - 15:14

Jeremiah Peterson

...

July 25, 2016 - 15:14

Kayden Perry

DUBS

July 25, 2016 - 15:15

Brody Wood

Did anyone else notice that the DNC platform highlights barely showed the S█████ delegates and completely skipped over both Warren Gunnels and Cornel West? The DNC sure is salty about S█████.

July 25, 2016 - 15:15

Jayden Gray

Haha holy shit they are literally still bringing up the world trade center attacks.

July 25, 2016 - 15:15

Jackson Roberts

DON'T LET YOUR MEMES BE DREAMS

July 25, 2016 - 15:15

Jordan Wilson

user you're so perceptive

July 25, 2016 - 15:15

Jaxson Gonzalez

My friends and allies aren't neocon war-hawks who bomb brown people because "muh WMDs"

July 25, 2016 - 15:15

Juan James

If you're so good at meme magic can you get it to get women to actually give a fuck about your life

July 25, 2016 - 15:15

Hunter Baker

They will bring it up for the next hundred fucking years

July 25, 2016 - 15:16

Lincoln Robinson

The same rampant unemployment, poverty, and ferocious resistance against organized labor we see today are what ignited FDR's wildly popular bipartisan base as a phenomenon. If the mask slips in front of neoliberalism as I think it has again today, class consciousness will burn hot in the popular consciousness.

July 25, 2016 - 15:16

Levi Allen

NO

July 25, 2016 - 15:16

Jordan Morris

Word on the street is that Hillary has non-delegate shills on the floor participating in the voice votes.

DEMOCRACY

July 25, 2016 - 15:16

Cameron Brooks

seig heil friend, thanks for the meme magic.

July 25, 2016 - 15:17

Jose Anderson

Wow. You asked. KEK delivered.

July 25, 2016 - 15:17

Camden Young

If who wants to be a millionaire can have buttons to count votes how the fuck is it possible for the DNC not to?

July 25, 2016 - 15:18

Ryder James

It wasn't for you

July 25, 2016 - 15:18

Jayden Turner

Anfem fails again.

July 25, 2016 - 15:18

Leo King

I need a drink.

July 25, 2016 - 15:18

Landon Peterson

...

July 25, 2016 - 15:19

Logan Young

They also seem to be taking away B████ signs and threatening to revoke credentials, and there are rumors that the MSM is adding applause to mask the booing/chanting

July 25, 2016 - 15:19

Matthew Gonzalez

what happened?

July 25, 2016 - 15:19

Nathan Anderson

lowey voted for iraq

July 25, 2016 - 15:19

Connor Thompson

Unresolved daddy issues

July 25, 2016 - 15:19

Noah Sullivan

This is making me hate life much more than i thought.

July 25, 2016 - 15:20

Carter Smith

BANE?

July 25, 2016 - 15:20

Connor Mitchell

...

July 25, 2016 - 15:20

Aaron Young

I'm seducing kek into feminism. Do not try and cross me again.

July 25, 2016 - 15:20

Nathan Jones

…..

July 25, 2016 - 15:20

Lincoln Green

...

July 25, 2016 - 15:20

William Cook

...

July 25, 2016 - 15:20

Grayson Morris

...

July 25, 2016 - 15:21

Cameron Davis

Gulag for Illegals when?

July 25, 2016 - 15:21

Zachary Fisher

ANOTHER DUBS?
WTF LADY?

July 25, 2016 - 15:21

Colton Gomez

Pls stop I don't have time to catch up on Tomoko.

July 25, 2016 - 15:21

Anthony Allen

Collectivization of dubs when?

July 25, 2016 - 15:22

Adam Ward

JUST VOTE FOR HILLARY GOD DAMMIT

nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/07/left-is-borrowing-hillary-hate-from-the-rnc.html?mid=twitter_nymag

JUST VOTE FOR HER GUIZE

July 25, 2016 - 15:23

Ethan Diaz

>>>/bwithvideogames/

July 25, 2016 - 15:23

Blake Myers

Hahahaha

July 25, 2016 - 15:23

Zachary Ward

...

July 25, 2016 - 15:23

Jayden Russell

Your magic is impressive Meme Wench.

July 25, 2016 - 15:24

Joshua Perry

NOW

July 25, 2016 - 15:24

Benjamin Ross

But the manga is only getting better, user. Our little loser is improving but not fast enough that we won't see how her final year of high school will be like.

I hope they are holding those birdie seedman signs now.

July 25, 2016 - 15:24

Christopher Lewis

Now apparently. I really can't understand all this hope for something exciting to happen. Hillary will win, trump will either drop out or beat her and thats that. You cant win inside the system.

July 25, 2016 - 15:24

Jordan Morris

Do not call me a wench

July 25, 2016 - 15:25

Parker Taylor

gotta admit, that was breddy gud.

July 25, 2016 - 15:26

Julian Rogers

...

July 25, 2016 - 15:26

Jacob Scott

oh nevermind, you fucked it.

July 25, 2016 - 15:26

Austin Davis

So close….

July 25, 2016 - 15:26

Jordan Stewart

Nothing. Just enjoying the insanity. It's amazing.

July 25, 2016 - 15:26

Noah Watson

can't win them all I suppose.

July 25, 2016 - 15:27

James Flores

Well what I think is going to happen is that the B████OrBust peeps are going to stay at home with other Berners thus Hillary gets less votes while Trump gains some B████ supporters as well as having a higher turn out and becoming president.

July 25, 2016 - 15:27

Blake Nguyen

WE CAN'T GO BACK IN TIME
THIS IS A FACT

July 25, 2016 - 15:27

Blake White

Congrats on ruining time travel.

July 25, 2016 - 15:28

Liam Gray

...

July 25, 2016 - 15:28

Carson Morgan

Yeah. Hopefully those B████OrBust folks will find another way of engaging with politics, like violent protest or sabotage.

July 25, 2016 - 15:28

Hudson Nelson

We're hoping this convention will be such an embarrassing disaster that it will firmly sow party division within the Democrats and the American left.

Pic related

July 25, 2016 - 15:29

Christian Morgan

Dubs and Hegel himself will descend from the heavens onto the DNC stage to complete the dialectic of history.

July 25, 2016 - 15:30

Jonathan White

Well shit the entire time Holla Forums been sucking Trump's dick saying he is the second coming of Hitler. Only to be like Stalin in all forms. Wew lads we are in for a good one.

July 25, 2016 - 15:30

Jaxon Baker

That's what thought of B████OrBust when this one due in my History class was telling me about it. "So they break out the AKs?" I say to him, "No no, we'll just stay home and not vote." he responds.

Fun fact he's Palestinian.

July 25, 2016 - 15:30

William Ross

Your meme magic is weak.

July 25, 2016 - 15:31

Adrian Baker

Why would we stay at home when we still have choices?

July 25, 2016 - 15:31

Brayden Sullivan

...

July 25, 2016 - 15:32

Hudson Kelly

California's economy is the sixth largest on earth and it also has the largest number of people living in absolute poverty

July 25, 2016 - 15:32

Lincoln Thompson

We are in for the best one because Trump won't be able to do anything he wants to
He will be a slightly worse bush probably He won't make the boner of the alt-right rise he will just alienate people so much further.

July 25, 2016 - 15:33

Parker Mitchell

Isn't California an epicentre for gentrification?

July 25, 2016 - 15:33

Wyatt Fisher

...

July 25, 2016 - 15:33

Ayden Cruz

And it's on fire.

July 25, 2016 - 15:33

Jeremiah Lewis

ffs…

July 25, 2016 - 15:33

Adrian Clark

...

July 25, 2016 - 15:33

Christopher Nelson

Seems like they cut the mics in the boo sections, at least at CNN. It's way more silent than while watching other streams.

July 25, 2016 - 15:33

Oliver Perez

can we stop with the meme magic

July 25, 2016 - 15:34

Nathaniel Phillips

OH SHIT, B████ STAGE RUSH HAPPENING MAYBE SOON

July 25, 2016 - 15:34

Camden Lopez

why do you think all the hipsters live there

July 25, 2016 - 15:34

Dylan Baker

BERN IT DOWN

July 25, 2016 - 15:34

Adam Adams

kek has spoken, and it does not favor Holla Forums

July 25, 2016 - 15:34

Dylan Jones

Rule number one

YOU CAN'T STOP MEME MAGIC

July 25, 2016 - 15:34

Isaac Fisher

ten minutes later…

July 25, 2016 - 15:34

Blake Foster

Probably some intern.

July 25, 2016 - 15:34

Logan Ortiz

Only if it is hitler dubs rolled.

July 25, 2016 - 15:34

Anthony Martinez

Seriously, all Holla Forums memes are shit but the whole "mememagic" shit is incredibly cringeworthy.

July 25, 2016 - 15:35

Oliver Ross

Fuck off DNC

FREE SPEECH BEST SPEECH

July 25, 2016 - 15:35

Ayden Clark

"We don't build walls we tear them down"-Governor of the State where one of the worst Voter Supression cases ever occurred, standing in a bank-owned building surrounded by a FUCKNG WALL

July 25, 2016 - 15:35

Jackson Miller

Guys please stop these dubs, this is getting scary.

July 25, 2016 - 15:35

Grayson Morgan

But its fun!

July 25, 2016 - 15:35

Brody Gomez

you're just jealous.

kek gave you a chance, but you lost it.

seig heil

July 25, 2016 - 15:35

Daniel Williams

...

July 25, 2016 - 15:36

Gavin Rodriguez

No fun aloud: the post.

Dubs for Hillary heartattack.

July 25, 2016 - 15:36

Aaron Scott

no

July 25, 2016 - 15:36

Ryder Roberts

You first

Check em

July 25, 2016 - 15:36

Bentley Russell

...

July 25, 2016 - 15:36

James Cox

Are you serious?

July 25, 2016 - 15:36

Juan Lee

anfem deleted her failed roll kek. what a dumb cunt.

July 25, 2016 - 15:36

Tyler Scott

No it's just fairly easy to predict when dubs occur on this board

July 25, 2016 - 15:36

Liam Bell

yes

July 25, 2016 - 15:36

Joseph Morris

Hey I still get 'em

July 25, 2016 - 15:37

Liam Bailey

On EVERY board. Holla Forums isn't exactly the fastest.

July 25, 2016 - 15:37

Tyler White

KEK PLEASE HITE DNC WITH LIGHTNING BOLT

July 25, 2016 - 15:37

Joshua Robinson

HILLARY
BLESS
THESE
DUBS

July 25, 2016 - 15:37

Jordan Perez

...

July 25, 2016 - 15:37

Leo Collins

...

July 25, 2016 - 15:37

Matthew Watson

ROLLING FOR DNC TO BURN TO GROUND

July 25, 2016 - 15:37

David Mitchell

GULAG

July 25, 2016 - 15:37

Dylan Cooper

Eh

July 25, 2016 - 15:37

Noah Ramirez

did you forget what board you're on

July 25, 2016 - 15:38

Samuel Garcia

anfem's really a tranny

July 25, 2016 - 15:38

John Flores

ROLLING FOR COUP

July 25, 2016 - 15:38

Justin Peterson

No dubs 4 u

July 25, 2016 - 15:38

David Sanders

It's allowed you twat.

July 25, 2016 - 15:38

Josiah Nelson

damn, i tried. kek.

July 25, 2016 - 15:38

Luis Campbell

ROLLING FOR DNC TO FLOOD

July 25, 2016 - 15:38

Colton Cox

Turkey fucked that up like the French in WW2.

July 25, 2016 - 15:38

Gavin Rogers

Ted Cruz is a democrat now?

July 25, 2016 - 15:39

Evan Torres

Bern the DNC when?

July 25, 2016 - 15:39

Oliver Adams

rush the stage blm

July 25, 2016 - 15:39

Liam Reyes

NOW

July 25, 2016 - 15:39

Levi Davis

dear lord

July 25, 2016 - 15:39

Jayden Reed

No he's the Zodiac Killer

Oh boy, this will be fun to watch.

July 25, 2016 - 15:39

Cameron Richardson

ew blm.

July 25, 2016 - 15:39

Brody Ramirez

the dubs have spoken

July 25, 2016 - 15:40

Angel Peterson

It's fun when you're not there.

July 25, 2016 - 15:40

Jack Cruz

let's be real, blm would rush the stage but no B████s.

July 25, 2016 - 15:40

Isaac King

...

July 25, 2016 - 15:40

Nicholas Powell

Dubs

July 25, 2016 - 15:41

Jace Perez

You know it.

July 25, 2016 - 15:41

Daniel James

Fuck that was cringe.

July 25, 2016 - 15:41

Owen White

please stop

July 25, 2016 - 15:41

Nathan Stewart

...

July 25, 2016 - 15:41

Bentley Reyes

ROLLING FOR SOCIALIST INSURRECTION

July 25, 2016 - 15:42

Brandon Gonzalez

ROLLING FOR RIOTS

July 25, 2016 - 15:42

Daniel Thomas

RETARDED

July 25, 2016 - 15:42

Jose Green

With dubs, == YOU WIN ==

July 25, 2016 - 15:42

Chase Wilson

...

July 25, 2016 - 15:42

Camden Hall

REROLLING FOR RIOTS

July 25, 2016 - 15:42

Jack White

should rush during B████'s speech so someone can put on the "curb your enthusiasm" theme.

July 25, 2016 - 15:42

Charles Perry

rolling for spontaneous anarcho-communist insurrection

July 25, 2016 - 15:42

Leo Bell

ROLLING ONE MORE TIME FOR R I O T S

R

I

O

T

S

July 25, 2016 - 15:43

Mason Harris

welp, i finally got kek's approval.

July 25, 2016 - 15:43

Jonathan Morgan

Checked

July 25, 2016 - 15:43

Aaron Thompson

BUILD A WALL

July 25, 2016 - 15:43

Joshua Johnson

i hope this happens

kek be with you

July 25, 2016 - 15:43

Samuel Lee

They might happen if Trump wins.

July 25, 2016 - 15:43

Bentley Jenkins

ROLLING FOR RIOTS

July 25, 2016 - 15:43

Grayson Robinson

oh shit

good pic

July 25, 2016 - 15:44

Chase Bell

A literal retard is about to endorse Hillary.

July 25, 2016 - 15:44

Zachary Hughes

Rolling for revolution

July 25, 2016 - 15:44

Grayson Turner

By the power of B████ Sander, dubs for riots.

July 25, 2016 - 15:44

Henry Bell

...

July 25, 2016 - 15:44

Oliver Taylor

narrow it down, that describes most of her supporters

July 25, 2016 - 15:44

Ethan Long

Checked

July 25, 2016 - 15:44

Owen Russell

ROLLING FOR DELEGATES TO BULLY HILLARY CLINTON

July 25, 2016 - 15:44

Christopher Parker

Dannel '74% of my state hates me' Malloy

July 25, 2016 - 15:44

Lincoln Lopez

when do superdelegates vote tbh

July 25, 2016 - 15:45

Noah Myers

Soon

July 25, 2016 - 15:45

Wyatt Wright

leftypol you are kind of bad at predicting dubs

July 25, 2016 - 15:45

Anthony Powell

...

July 25, 2016 - 15:45

Sebastian Fisher

Why is it always fucking lawyers
Give them hope but not TOO MUCH hope.

July 25, 2016 - 15:45

Matthew Cox

But are good at stumbling on them.

July 25, 2016 - 15:45

Carter Miller

ROLLING FOR PROTESTORS TO BULLY DNC TO DEATH

July 25, 2016 - 15:45

Ian Garcia

nice try.

July 25, 2016 - 15:45

Julian Butler

ROLLING FOR RETARD TO HAVE A HEART ATTACK

July 25, 2016 - 15:45

Leo Howard

Oh no, Chris found Hillary Clinton.

AUTISM HAS A NEW VOICE

July 25, 2016 - 15:46

Liam Brooks

...

July 25, 2016 - 15:46

Gabriel Howard

Trips for Berners to riot.

July 25, 2016 - 15:46

Kevin Parker

If trips, we get a successful coup.

July 25, 2016 - 15:46

Jackson Sullivan

Trump wins.

July 25, 2016 - 15:46

Isaac Cox

AHHHH

July 25, 2016 - 15:46

Christopher Wright

If trips B████ rapes hillary

July 25, 2016 - 15:46

Gabriel Turner

Breen?

July 25, 2016 - 15:46

David Walker

aw man.

July 25, 2016 - 15:46

Jace King

...

July 25, 2016 - 15:46

Levi Fisher

we did it Holla Forums!

July 25, 2016 - 15:46

Anthony Turner

KEK

PLEASE

LET IT HAPPEN

July 25, 2016 - 15:47

Isaac Stewart

WITH TRIPS WE WIN

July 25, 2016 - 15:47

Justin Wright

REEEEEEEEEEEE!!

July 25, 2016 - 15:47

David Torres

Neat.

July 25, 2016 - 15:47

Nicholas Gonzalez

time for directx

July 25, 2016 - 15:47

Carter Morris

blown the fuck out

July 25, 2016 - 15:47

Ian Sanchez

Surprised he didn't accidentally endorse Trump tbqh

July 25, 2016 - 15:47

Samuel Richardson

Tbh a Cosby X Hillary porno wouldn't be that bad.

July 25, 2016 - 15:47

Nathan Howard

Seriously, where the fuck are the volunteers

July 25, 2016 - 15:47

Juan Miller

All glory to the Motherland!!!!

July 25, 2016 - 15:48

Gabriel Anderson

Did you see his new vagina?

July 25, 2016 - 15:48

Adam Wilson

...

July 25, 2016 - 15:48

Robert Bell

i'm fine with a coup fam, i just want to stir up shit so i can get some giggles.

July 25, 2016 - 15:48

Easton Nguyen

Easy now, Trump is a living meme. And we want Hillary to lose, so Trump already won.

July 25, 2016 - 15:48

Elijah Long

good

July 25, 2016 - 15:48

Xavier Ortiz

Trump confirmed BTFO

July 25, 2016 - 15:48

Brayden Bailey

No.

July 25, 2016 - 15:48

Justin Foster

Somebody's gettin laid.

July 25, 2016 - 15:49

Charles Stewart

He said "lolol I trolled you XDXDXD" to that.

July 25, 2016 - 15:49

Asher Carter

THIS IS THE MOST POLITICALLY CORRECT SPEECH EVER

ZIZEK IS NOT PLEASED

July 25, 2016 - 15:49

Brayden Sanders

That's his response every time he goes full retard.

July 25, 2016 - 15:49

Matthew Edwards

...

July 25, 2016 - 15:50

Jack Johnson

No we don't need a deformity virus running around, we have ebola chan for that.

July 25, 2016 - 15:50

Carter Lopez

haha look at his expression though

July 25, 2016 - 15:50

Jaxson Collins

can't unsee

July 25, 2016 - 15:50

Jonathan James

Owing wholly to their underdeveloped brain and skull shape, the average Holla Forumsyp suffers from poor pattern recognition. Thus, the phenomenon of seeing 2 identical numbers at the end of a long string of numbers is both fascinating and baffling to the Holla Forumsyp.

Even going so far as to attribute divination to the occurrence and engage in ritualistic celebration. The more like numbers in a sequence the more call to celebration.

July 25, 2016 - 15:50

Aiden Lee

Bernie better have a master ruse up his sleeve with all this shilling for clinton

July 25, 2016 - 15:50

Mason Morgan

Every one of the last 50 posters should be shot.

July 25, 2016 - 15:50

Brandon Murphy

...

July 25, 2016 - 15:51

Robert Smith

I'm on it.

July 25, 2016 - 15:51

Alexander Robinson

Do you feel in charge?

July 25, 2016 - 15:51

Juan Robinson

NOPE

July 25, 2016 - 15:51

Josiah Bennett

...

July 25, 2016 - 15:52

Juan Long

...

July 25, 2016 - 15:52

Dylan Bell

lel.

July 25, 2016 - 15:52

Samuel Sanders

spasibo tovarich

July 25, 2016 - 15:52

Gavin Price

Annnnnnd yet the DNC is rigged as hell.

July 25, 2016 - 15:52

Jeremiah Johnson

I'll admit it's good for chuckles, but it really does make sense. Being a legislator consists primarily of writing new laws in as legally tight as possible to fit in smoothly alongside past laws, being a lawyer is all about understanding the intricacies of the legal format and past legal precedents. Think of it like latin being the language of priesthood.

July 25, 2016 - 15:52

Austin Evans

...

July 25, 2016 - 15:52

Nicholas Turner

Is it me or is it the DNC trying to be like E3 or something with all the flashy stuff.

Dubs if the stage gets crashed. Double dubs if BLM fucks S█████ again.

July 25, 2016 - 15:53

Jackson Long

This shit is not really worth of serious discussions tho. We know we are fucked and we might as well ease the pain comrade.
Wait for Breen to either turn on hillary or commit the final betrayal

July 25, 2016 - 15:53

Kayden Nelson

...

July 25, 2016 - 15:53

Hudson Murphy

youtube.com/watch?v=HXNFeWBygrY

TYT AT THE SCENE

July 25, 2016 - 15:53

Eli Hill

Cenk has gone full Hillary shill mode. Fuck him.

July 25, 2016 - 15:53

Elijah Collins

Anita Sarkia or what ever the last name is isn't there speaking yet.

July 25, 2016 - 15:53

Nolan Collins

...

July 25, 2016 - 15:54

Andrew Howard

...

July 25, 2016 - 15:54

Connor Cook

Dubs confirm S█████ Rescinds Endorsement

July 25, 2016 - 15:54

Andrew Myers

Alex Jones vs. Cenk round 2 when?

July 25, 2016 - 15:54

Dylan Powell

Somebody help him

July 25, 2016 - 15:55

Christian Martinez

...

July 25, 2016 - 15:55

Evan Wilson

This isn't a thread for autistic pol memes. It's supposed to be thread about the U.S. election, and in effect, the DNC, which is happening right now. It's really quite irritating to see all discussion of that overshadowed by people rolling for shit.

July 25, 2016 - 15:55

Tyler Stewart

CHECKED!
I WILL NEVER GIVE UP!!

July 25, 2016 - 15:56

Eli Rivera

thank kek for no dubz on this one

July 25, 2016 - 15:56

Jordan Bell

Reroll

July 25, 2016 - 15:56

Nolan Morales

smash muh glass ceiling

July 25, 2016 - 15:56

Carson Flores

Oh shit not her the whiny bitch with her fuck buddy Quinn that cried to the UN is coming. I am not ready for this.

Damn I would love to see that. Round 1 was great.

July 25, 2016 - 15:56

Angel Reyes

That's my fetish tbh

July 25, 2016 - 15:57

Henry Bennett

I thought it was a girl under her for a sec. Disappointed.

July 25, 2016 - 15:57

Ryder Nguyen

This tbh

Please take it to Holla Forums.

July 25, 2016 - 15:57

Gabriel Ortiz

Reminder that the best artists refuse to let politicians use their songs.

July 25, 2016 - 15:58

Brayden Sanchez

W E W
E
W

July 25, 2016 - 15:58

Jaxon Morgan

get over it fag, let people watch watch it all go to shit and have fun doing it.

July 25, 2016 - 15:58

Levi Cruz

closes Holla Forums

July 25, 2016 - 15:58

Owen Taylor

this tbh fam

July 25, 2016 - 15:59

Christian Walker

...

July 25, 2016 - 15:59

Brayden Nelson

But it's fuuuuuuuun

July 25, 2016 - 16:00

Carter Roberts

I'm out. I meet you guys at the convention

bring guns

July 25, 2016 - 16:00

Jaxson King

Um I am confused when the hell did the DNC become a concert? Why are they playing Music I thought this was the big circle jerk the Bourgeois corrupt politicians get together.

July 25, 2016 - 16:00

Noah Reyes

It's much more fun to make humorous commentary on the whole situation, rather then to just look for repeating digits in post numbers, imo. Then again, I'm not mentally retarded, so maybe I'm not in a position to make that assumption.

July 25, 2016 - 16:01

Kevin Scott

Don't know. But I hope they die.

July 25, 2016 - 16:01

James Wright

Yeah, help him leave so someone can screw his girl properly.

July 25, 2016 - 16:02

Michael Torres

There wasn't much going on at the time, hence the digitposting. We're obviously done now.

July 25, 2016 - 16:02

Ryan White

Nice dubs comrade.

July 25, 2016 - 16:02

Jordan Green

Checked.

:^)

July 25, 2016 - 16:02

David Lee

Sick digits.

July 25, 2016 - 16:03

Liam Barnes

Trips converge Superdelegates uprising

July 25, 2016 - 16:03

Carson Wright

Get the Berners to rush the stage.

July 25, 2016 - 16:03

Cameron Richardson

Trips confirm.

July 25, 2016 - 16:03

Jaxon Reyes

Did that Hillary shill just slam B████ on the floor? Too erratic and divisive to run the nation? Way to throw fuel on the fire dumbass.

July 25, 2016 - 16:03

Blake Williams

...

July 25, 2016 - 16:03

Andrew Scott

Really dosn't seem that obvious to me.

July 25, 2016 - 16:03

Camden Richardson

(checked)

July 25, 2016 - 16:03

Henry Wilson

I have heard nothing but idpol

July 25, 2016 - 16:04

Logan Price

No, he was referring to Trump

July 25, 2016 - 16:04

Samuel Powell

MEME

July 25, 2016 - 16:04

Luke Richardson

Guess I wasn't listening close enough.

July 25, 2016 - 16:04

Oliver Richardson

check 'em

July 25, 2016 - 16:05

Brayden Parker

"N-nobody who voted B████ is voting for Trump…"

July 25, 2016 - 16:05

Justin Perry

These guys are about to help…right?

July 25, 2016 - 16:05

Jaxon Cooper

YOU'RE ONLY HELPING HILLARY LOSE MORE

July 25, 2016 - 16:05

Robert Myers

Haha they talk about party unity and they shit on the one guy that even got most young people remotely interested in politics. Even if he was a Social democratic class traitor. This amuses me though.

I do hate how much shilling is going on. Riots or gtfo speaker.

July 25, 2016 - 16:05

Brandon Diaz

She has grit alright.
Do you think they realize she is just stealing all of Bremen’s lines now?
Please tell me you think they realize that

Please

July 25, 2016 - 16:06

Bentley Davis

...

July 25, 2016 - 16:06

Aiden Lee

So when exactly did the spirit of fun die on leftypol? Are you guys too autistic to balance levity with gravity?

July 25, 2016 - 16:06

Easton Lopez

what makes you think they aren't doing it on purpose

July 25, 2016 - 16:06

Colton Wilson

How can you say that when we've been getting all these digits?

July 25, 2016 - 16:06

Jason Bailey

kys

July 25, 2016 - 16:06

Jonathan Russell

fuk

July 25, 2016 - 16:07

Gabriel Diaz

They still have hope for the American democratic process. They'll grow up eventually.

nice.

July 25, 2016 - 16:07

Jordan Ross

There's an influx of summer anarkiddie ledditors and tumblrinas who lack the maturity of our core /lit/erates necessary to have fun while being political.

July 25, 2016 - 16:08

Thomas Walker

...

July 25, 2016 - 16:08

Hunter Perez

I just grew out of dubs bullshit 7 years ago, tbh fam.

July 25, 2016 - 16:08

Levi Harris

22

July 25, 2016 - 16:08

Landon Baker

This is the same party that called latinos in internal emails 'tacos' and called them most brand loyal minority

July 25, 2016 - 16:08

Parker Cook

gj

July 25, 2016 - 16:09

Jace Green

Nobody's keeping you from discussing anything, we're just also discussing with you to tell you you're an unbearable faggot.

July 25, 2016 - 16:09

Noah Edwards

>We need a path to relegalization of disposable slave labor

July 25, 2016 - 16:09

Landon Gomez

I HEAR BOOING

July 25, 2016 - 16:09

Logan Myers

What else are we supposed to talk about? The DNC is pandering, nothing new there. I can't wait for Hillary to speak though :^)

July 25, 2016 - 16:09

Aiden Garcia

If anyone's the unbearable faggot, it's you.

July 25, 2016 - 16:10

Jose Carter

no u.

July 25, 2016 - 16:10

Isaac Howard

...

July 25, 2016 - 16:10

Bentley Walker

Is that fart thing still planned or what here? When does the gassing begin?

July 25, 2016 - 16:10

Jaxon Rogers

All I hear from that old hag lizard is how pc she is. Pandering pandering, Guys I have a vagina, oh don't vote for Trump or you are a nazi loving woman hater!

July 25, 2016 - 16:11

Grayson Lopez

The leaks never happened remember, if they did it doesn’t count because Putin did it to derail our democracy.

Because they are still clapping.

July 25, 2016 - 16:11

Nicholas Rodriguez

Stay mad and useless, it's better than getting dubs. Almost.

July 25, 2016 - 16:12

Luis Jones

This speaker right here.

July 25, 2016 - 16:12

Logan Parker

think of the children
won't somebody think of the children

July 25, 2016 - 16:12

Lincoln Richardson

Well the dnc did a good job of boring the protesters to calmness. Look at this lull in posting.

July 25, 2016 - 16:14

Thomas Jackson

You're just as mad and useless as I am, famalam.

July 25, 2016 - 16:15

Cameron Hill

BADASS

July 25, 2016 - 16:15

Samuel Walker

I just wanna hear all the (b)ooo's and (b)aaaa's

:^)

a got

July 25, 2016 - 16:15

Owen Sanchez

Of course, never said I was. Just saying might as well enjoy the shitshow. If you're so good at writing funny posts, write them. Nobody is keeping you from doing other than yourself complaining about dubs, and those were some nice ones :^)

July 25, 2016 - 16:16

Levi Jones

It is funny that they gain more from pretending that Trump can actually build a fucking wall.
Every time booing happens i can almost pretend to have hope

July 25, 2016 - 16:16

Noah Sanchez

Alright you got a point there. That would be more entertaining than listening to this pandering.

July 25, 2016 - 16:17

Evan Campbell

I'm back!

What I miss?

July 25, 2016 - 16:17

James Gomez

Where is Jimmy "MLG against the Bourgeois" Dore when you need them?

July 25, 2016 - 16:17

Charles Reyes

TWO GOTS

July 25, 2016 - 16:18

Tyler Carter

MADMAN

July 25, 2016 - 16:18

Austin Taylor

checked.

go figure.

July 25, 2016 - 16:19

Sebastian Moore

I'm a little disappointed in the protesters.

July 25, 2016 - 16:19

Nathan Sanders

this
the people demand blood

July 25, 2016 - 16:20

Jason Rivera

Of course not, All the Berners are hopping Green Party.

July 25, 2016 - 16:20

Jaxson Jones

Fuggoff

July 25, 2016 - 16:20

Evan Rodriguez

Now you're getting it. Enjoy the shitshow with us fam. Pull up a chair. Warm your feet by the burning pile of trash that is American "Democracy".

July 25, 2016 - 16:20

Gavin Bennett

...

July 25, 2016 - 16:20

Easton Long

of ass meat

July 25, 2016 - 16:21

Bentley Gonzalez

Social Democrat is still better than Neocon.

FWIW I was rooting for you this time

July 25, 2016 - 16:21

Camden Roberts

So Dubs for Riots?

July 25, 2016 - 16:21

Matthew Turner

There was already trips for riots earlier. Just waiting now.

July 25, 2016 - 16:21

Thomas Ramirez

Saving the final crushing of my delusional hopes to when Sandman speaks tbh.
Is this the worst thing so far? I think so.

July 25, 2016 - 16:21

Cameron Bennett

nice prole shaming smh

July 25, 2016 - 16:22

Camden Walker

why can't IWW members storm the stage and burn these class traitors

July 25, 2016 - 16:22

Kayden Allen

get

July 25, 2016 - 16:22

Tyler Cook

Alright fair enough anything is better than Neocons.

July 25, 2016 - 16:22

Joshua Campbell

...

July 25, 2016 - 16:22

Mason Torres

/sp/ stol ethem.

July 25, 2016 - 16:23

Joseph Young

whoops, sorry for linking to your post comrade, i need to l2quickpost

July 25, 2016 - 16:23

Grayson Turner

...

July 25, 2016 - 16:24

Colton Ramirez

youtu.be/rviuF9jJAUY?t=50

TOPPEST KEK

July 25, 2016 - 16:24

Liam Smith

To be fair, they are as spineless as their candidate :^)

July 25, 2016 - 16:25

Cooper Powell

THE JOB KILLING TRANS PACIFIC PARTNERSHIP
that Clinton's VP wanted to fast Track

July 25, 2016 - 16:26

Elijah Turner

This guy implying the rules matter. Wew.

July 25, 2016 - 16:27

Anthony Hernandez

Tim == KANE ==

Peace through Power Brother Nod members :^)

July 25, 2016 - 16:27

Daniel Howard

lrn 2 redtext

July 25, 2016 - 16:27

James Moore

more pandering to illegals

July 25, 2016 - 16:27

Angel Mitchell

ETERNAL REMINDER
dailykos.com/story/2013/6/14/1216286/-Unions-Big-Business-the-Powell-Memo

July 25, 2016 - 16:27

James Martin

I can

WATCH

July 25, 2016 - 16:28

Isaiah Martin

They're whipping the Hillary loyalists so hard it's fucking unbearable.

July 25, 2016 - 16:28

Nicholas Thompson

Yeah, she wants to do it by rigging the nomination lololololololol

will this be the election where I die of alcohol poisoning?

July 25, 2016 - 16:30

Andrew Perez

Gotta pander to those Tumblrites

July 25, 2016 - 16:30

Tyler Williams

oh fuck, dubs confirm i die.

July 25, 2016 - 16:30

Aaron Parker

I have bad news…..

July 25, 2016 - 16:30

Landon Lee

post ur rules fam.

July 25, 2016 - 16:30

Aaron Garcia

Go big on the way out with Red Bull and Jagermister.

July 25, 2016 - 16:30

Alexander Morales

I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN WIN

July 25, 2016 - 16:31

Christopher Johnson

right there with you

July 25, 2016 - 16:31

Jeremiah Brooks

Fuck that, gonna go out with absinthe.

July 25, 2016 - 16:31

Dominic Lopez

ONLY ONE UNION MATTERS BOYS

July 25, 2016 - 16:31

Samuel Anderson

speaker looks like a king of the hill character

July 25, 2016 - 16:31

Levi Morris

No dubs unfortunately

July 25, 2016 - 16:31

Ethan Long

bobby hill grown up speaking rn

July 25, 2016 - 16:32

James Miller

dubs for rushing stage

July 25, 2016 - 16:32

Jayden Jenkins

I don't :/

July 25, 2016 - 16:32

Tyler Cox

The complicity of these union heads to the Democratic Party makes the Unions of the USSR look like rouge activists fighting against the party line.

July 25, 2016 - 16:32

Jeremiah Bell

...

July 25, 2016 - 16:33

Asher Cruz

I'm thinking that wikileaks hasn't posted the emails because they won't affect the outcome of the convention in any way

July 25, 2016 - 16:34

Isaac Evans

Will there be new memes about the nays being ayes. Because we all know how rigged this shit is regardless.

July 25, 2016 - 16:35

Jonathan Brooks

Can we all agree the unions shilling for Clinton is the saddest and most disgusting thing so far

July 25, 2016 - 16:35

Noah Wilson

We will at least see the total collapse or near total collapse of capitalism

July 25, 2016 - 16:35

Josiah Williams

IWW or bust

July 25, 2016 - 16:36

David Jones

...

July 25, 2016 - 16:36

Jace Morales

Yes.
Almost makes me want to see Trump win.

July 25, 2016 - 16:37

Julian Roberts

oh hey hillary cares about heroin addicts now too

July 25, 2016 - 16:37

Nicholas Cook

...

July 25, 2016 - 16:37

Lincoln Cox

...

July 25, 2016 - 16:37

Xavier Gutierrez

whenever unions led the members vote they typically went for S█████
Union leaders are actively screwing their own membership for porkybux

July 25, 2016 - 16:37

Nathan Turner

We really gotta get these speakers their asthma meds

July 25, 2016 - 16:37

Asher Wilson

Well Trump did say he made the repub party the == WORKERS PARTY ==

July 25, 2016 - 16:37

Wyatt Kelly

Those unions are class traitors to their own cause. Pandering to the biggest bourgeois neocon in the election.

July 25, 2016 - 16:38

Mason Wood

She burned the weed and became a Heroin.

July 25, 2016 - 16:38

Blake Brown

Delegates should really have planned to chant "SANDERS, S█████" instead of "BERNIE, B████". His first name has too many syllables in common with Hillary.

July 25, 2016 - 16:39

Tyler Fisher

elizabeth warrens on today. cant wait for the boos

July 25, 2016 - 16:39

Carter King

Warren had better get run out of town like the class traitor she is

July 25, 2016 - 16:40

Nicholas Evans

I thought that too.

July 25, 2016 - 16:40

Michael Bell

Wasn't she the first to call out the banks?

July 25, 2016 - 16:41

Nicholas Perry

also probably doesn't help most of them are in the rafters

July 25, 2016 - 16:41

Jordan Price

RIP Punished B████. A fallen legend.

July 25, 2016 - 16:41

Nolan Butler

Hillary's plan to reduce heroine od

July 25, 2016 - 16:41

Andrew Moore

...

July 25, 2016 - 16:41

Tyler Ortiz

She's just going to piss and moan about Trump like an offended old lady.

July 25, 2016 - 16:41

Austin Collins

six years ago maybe. She's gone full Shill

July 25, 2016 - 16:42

Ian Roberts

That speaker was so wooden I was afraid she'd catch on fire

OH MY GOD SELL OUT

And then she came to heel.

July 25, 2016 - 16:42

Easton Young

...

July 25, 2016 - 16:42

Justin Myers

That and try and get people to chant hillary.

July 25, 2016 - 16:42

Christopher Moore

Maybe she'll bring up how she's "native american" :^)

July 25, 2016 - 16:42

Jacob Reyes

...

July 25, 2016 - 16:42

Dylan Stewart

Omg, Fuck Hillary. She doesn't give a shit about addicts.

July 25, 2016 - 16:43

Easton Ward

Calling out the banks is meaningless. Even Hillary will take on the rich and the powerful now.

July 25, 2016 - 16:43

Noah Anderson

She betrayed her cause to shill for shillary. Instead of at least supporting Berine because they shared similar ideas.

So she is a class traitor and should be gulaged.

July 25, 2016 - 16:43

Alexander Hall

...

July 25, 2016 - 16:43

Noah Anderson

I just got here - Anyone have a good feed of protests?

July 25, 2016 - 16:44

Angel Lee

fuck was that really it?

July 25, 2016 - 16:44

Liam Johnson

I'd recognize that riff anywhere fam

July 25, 2016 - 16:44

Luke Davis

look at

July 25, 2016 - 16:45

Camden Sullivan

Fuck, I'd vendetta her V if you know what I mean

July 25, 2016 - 16:45

Landon Long

lel whut?

July 25, 2016 - 16:45

Tyler Thomas

Got here too late, that post is gone for me

July 25, 2016 - 16:46

Christian Peterson

A demi lovato concert is after this

July 25, 2016 - 16:46

Justin Jenkins

Pandering that Hillary cares about addicts.

July 25, 2016 - 16:47

Isaac Lee

They're making this convention as boring as possible for a reason. Clinton literally doesn't have to say anything and she wins.

July 25, 2016 - 16:48

Elijah Thomas

Demi Lovato struggles with mental illness?

July 25, 2016 - 16:48

Oliver Perez

I’m glad i have no idea who she is.

Nice shilling you cunt.

July 25, 2016 - 16:48

Kayden Ross

Demi Lovato is on stage because the democrats need to win the critical camp rock demographic

July 25, 2016 - 16:48

Elijah Martin

...

July 25, 2016 - 16:49

Henry Fisher

Bulimia, bipolar, and self-harm, apparently.

Interedasting.

July 25, 2016 - 16:49

Carter Nelson

Retardation.

It's a common illness among Hillary supporters.

July 25, 2016 - 16:49

Tyler Allen

That is gold. Thank you for noticing

July 25, 2016 - 16:49

Kayden Scott

anyone want to talk sex instead of the democratic national convention

July 25, 2016 - 16:49

Joseph Collins

m.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4ujwml/jane_sanders_caught_saying_they_dont_know_your/

I can't even tell if I'm crazy or not anymore. But what does "They don't know your name is being put in nomination. That's the concern…" mean?

July 25, 2016 - 16:49

Andrew Lewis

I'm game

July 25, 2016 - 16:49

Adam Diaz

I would too, if I was demi lovato.

July 25, 2016 - 16:49

Josiah Moore

is this a fucking joke?

July 25, 2016 - 16:50

Kevin Barnes

aye

July 25, 2016 - 16:50

Benjamin Morris

Of course

July 25, 2016 - 16:50

Kevin Allen

sure, send me some nudes.

July 25, 2016 - 16:50

Lincoln Anderson

She must actually be retarded if she thinks more Romneycare is gonna give everyone mental health treatment.

July 25, 2016 - 16:50

James Price

So I guess this is part of the reason delegates needed to pay thousands of fucking dollars to attend the convention?

July 25, 2016 - 16:50

Lucas White

...

July 25, 2016 - 16:51

Levi Watson

there's going to be a roll call vote in two stages with the regular delegates voting and then the superdelegates will vote

they didn't want the S█████ supporters to know because they're afraid there'll be a riot if they give them a glimmer of hope and then snatch it away

July 25, 2016 - 16:51

Matthew Reyes

These conventions are a joke.. Demi Lovato & Duck Dynasty..

MURICA

July 25, 2016 - 16:51

Dylan Rivera

This is going to be beautiful

July 25, 2016 - 16:52

Carter King

I'm thinking of trying butt stuff but I mostly don't see a point. Honestly, there's already a cunt, anal seems redundant since there's going to be a lack of sensation involved that would be otherwise there just a finger away. But that doesn't neccisarily mean it feels altogether negative either

What's your opinion on this

July 25, 2016 - 16:52

Ethan Evans

In contrast: I'm paying a grand total of ~$250 to attend the Green National Convention in Houston and that's about the same distance from me as Philadelphia.

July 25, 2016 - 16:52

Justin Foster

...

July 25, 2016 - 16:52

Juan Gomez

just fuck my life up fam

July 25, 2016 - 16:52

Isaiah White

Can't wait to see Trump send the queen into seizures when he beats her in the fall.

July 25, 2016 - 16:52

Zachary Jenkins

Only in America do you get tv celebs to be part of the convention. Because other wise the normies wouldn't care. Its sickening. Riots when?

July 25, 2016 - 16:52

Sebastian Howard

At best, it'll be shafted into a policy memo which advises corporate contracts for computerized CBT.

She's literally just a walking advertisement for an interest group.

July 25, 2016 - 16:53

Brody Robinson

I wonder how many people here are into water sports

July 25, 2016 - 16:53

Elijah Anderson

...

July 25, 2016 - 16:53

Jackson Allen

Lmao, post your tits or you're a dude trying to derail because you don't care

July 25, 2016 - 16:53

Julian Allen

I've never personally tried butt stuff because I am a boring human. However, I have heard alot of stories from friends and online dudes that butt stuff is pretty great if you can get over the initial weirdness. If the interest is there I'd say try it.

July 25, 2016 - 16:53

Isaiah Scott

Well, of course. What better way to show the democratic process in work than a song about "confidence" by a corporate dick sucker?

Don't know till you try.

July 25, 2016 - 16:54

Jaxon Martin

Derail from what

This is the most boring thing I've ever seen in my life

July 25, 2016 - 16:54

Cameron Gutierrez

RIOTS NOW

Someone give me a good livefeed if you're watching protests

July 25, 2016 - 16:54

Samuel Long

reddit.com/r/sex/comments/17c8oa/i_23m_just_discovered_prostate_stimulation_and_i/

one such famous case

July 25, 2016 - 16:54

Parker Richardson

...

July 25, 2016 - 16:54

Daniel Lopez

...

July 25, 2016 - 16:55

Austin Morgan

What? You don't like Demi Lovato?!

Seriously though, post tits or talk about the shit convention

July 25, 2016 - 16:55

Julian Miller

I'm gonna need to see some proof that's your rocking body.

July 25, 2016 - 16:55

Sebastian Diaz

shoe on head with time stamp or fake.

July 25, 2016 - 16:55

Gavin Reyes

Haha, ok that's better. Where'd you find this hot pic?

July 25, 2016 - 16:55

Kevin Peterson

...

July 25, 2016 - 16:56

Jackson Bell

...

July 25, 2016 - 16:57

Luis Brooks

See. I've had my gf put her two fingers in my butt before but. She's kind of pressuring to do anal with the strap on she has. And I don't know.

Seems like, at least first time, it'd seek painful. I'd rather she just get a smaller one first before we build up to that. But both of us are broke atm

July 25, 2016 - 16:57

Jack Sullivan

time stamp pls

July 25, 2016 - 16:57

Josiah Carter

That pizza looks uncooked.

Got any dick sucking vids?They could be animated instead if you like.

July 25, 2016 - 16:57

Sebastian Sanchez

Reddit gold

July 25, 2016 - 16:57

Evan Carter

Call me stupid but Birdie pandering is the least painful pandering i think.

Nice joke fam.
Only woman who posted tits on leftypol was satan-chan and it was not a sight worth seeing

July 25, 2016 - 16:58

Bentley Gutierrez

Confirmed.

Fuck off you're fake like Hillary :^)

Who cares if it's not. Tits or gtfo.

July 25, 2016 - 16:59

Christian Gomez

Maybe if you sound like pol thats a bad thing.

July 25, 2016 - 16:59

Blake Ross

I'd never ever want to be a blonde

July 25, 2016 - 16:59

Caleb Richardson

Yeah alright I guess.

July 25, 2016 - 16:59

Levi Lewis

das raciss

July 25, 2016 - 17:00

Jaxon Hernandez

I'm a blonde, it's fine

July 25, 2016 - 17:00

Dylan Martinez

Nah

I don't support Hillary what the fuck are you talking about

July 25, 2016 - 17:00

Liam Robinson

Everyone in the crowd hates the TPP

Yet somehow it chugs along

July 25, 2016 - 17:00

Owen Evans

yeah I'd say start small and with sufficient lube. Maybe just you're standard issue vibrator or something. Just don't get too crazy because the ol' choclate startfish or whatever isn't as elastic as pussy skin so its more prone to stretching out.

July 25, 2016 - 17:00

Anthony Parker

I say we filter anfem

July 25, 2016 - 17:00

Landon Hill

is this better?

July 25, 2016 - 17:01

Joshua Rivera

DNC = E3 confrimed

July 25, 2016 - 17:01

Grayson Gonzalez

you mean you haven't yet?

July 25, 2016 - 17:01

Thomas Garcia

Sorry to change the subject but I am Reading Des Capital with Requiem for a Dream (the song) playing. It feels like I have the fate of the world in my hands with this book.

July 25, 2016 - 17:01

Carter Martinez

That's not me!

July 25, 2016 - 17:01

Parker Hill

The Geezer Boomers run both parties!!!!!!!!!

July 25, 2016 - 17:01

Aaron Nelson

Stop playing with your pecker user

July 25, 2016 - 17:02

Matthew Thompson

Yeah. I don't know I'd rather just start with probing with a smaller dildo actually

There's one thing I'm forever unwilling to try and that's eating ass. Nobody is having their ass ate around me, near me, close to me.

July 25, 2016 - 17:02

Leo Myers

Are you the working class?
youtube.com/watch?v=bQPfmVzkzgg

July 25, 2016 - 17:02

Hudson Morales

this is what i've been wondering about, every politician is against TPP and yet TPP is still there
nice trips btw

July 25, 2016 - 17:02

David Hall

I hate that I love this funk music. YOU CAN'T BUY ME WITH FUNK, ASSHOLES..

July 25, 2016 - 17:03

Jacob Sanders

That is me

July 25, 2016 - 17:03

Kayden Nguyen

...

July 25, 2016 - 17:03

Lucas Foster

Hill Dog loves illegals now, guess she abandoned the Heroin addicts.

July 25, 2016 - 17:03

Daniel Rivera

Yes because the Democratic national convention is exciting and toooottally not fucking boring

it matters

July 25, 2016 - 17:04

Leo Phillips

That doesn't work. You'd have to filter every post, and there's no ids here. And everyone's named Anonymous.

You're stuck with me :3

July 25, 2016 - 17:05

Hunter Morales

CLAP FOR THE LITTLE MEXICAN GIRL

What? YOU HATE AMERICA?

July 25, 2016 - 17:05

Josiah Gonzalez

...

July 25, 2016 - 17:05

Evan Ward

I was postive ass eating was a meme or an act reserved only for our most degenerate citizens. But it seems I have a 2 friends who have shamefully admitted to eating ass.
I agree with you no way no how
there probably is something to it if its this common

July 25, 2016 - 17:05

James Martinez

Get into another fight and lose it.

Like the last one. It'll be funny.

July 25, 2016 - 17:05

Isaac Williams

this is a thread for american politics, not the IRC chatroom

go be an attention whore somewhere else

July 25, 2016 - 17:05

Austin Edwards

this doesn't feel like pandering at all

July 25, 2016 - 17:05

Jacob Flores

That's how the Geezers run the young people now.

July 25, 2016 - 17:05

Jackson Williams

This. Anfem, go not care somewhere else

July 25, 2016 - 17:06

Adam Taylor

Technically a student and was working for a while. Then I got injured at work, and was told not to come back. Its a pain in the ass trying to do school and work.

July 25, 2016 - 17:06

William Taylor

NO this is me

July 25, 2016 - 17:06

Luke Hughes

American Politics doesn't exist

You might as well be talking about eating ass

July 25, 2016 - 17:06

Cooper Diaz

who is this mexican child speaking right now and why is she here

July 25, 2016 - 17:06

Julian Gray

Fuck off, this isn't Europe

July 25, 2016 - 17:06

Leo Morris

I'm not mexican.

July 25, 2016 - 17:07

Michael Lee

Can you go away.

July 25, 2016 - 17:07

Evan Smith

It's not just pandering, it's also blackmail.

July 25, 2016 - 17:07

Matthew Perry

Estados Unidos no quiero Clint-on. Eras puta extramamente.

July 25, 2016 - 17:07

Christopher Barnes

Hill Dog needs illegals to vote for her.

New Hampshire

July 25, 2016 - 17:07

Jonathan Campbell

Half of the anfem posts aren't actually me. Maybe I should get a gimmick. Like posting statues

July 25, 2016 - 17:07

Grayson Hall

FARC Flag when?

July 25, 2016 - 17:08

Jack Cook

AhAHAHAHHAA

July 25, 2016 - 17:08

Luke Thompson

being a feminist is already your gimmick though :^)

July 25, 2016 - 17:08

Adam Flores

OY VEY DA JOO STAR WAS USED

July 25, 2016 - 17:08

William James

Rolled 61, 20, 71, 103, 63, 9, 131, 28, 139, 127, 137, 20, 97, 24, 86, 97, 10, 6, 20, 134, 108, 131, 131, 4, 13, 121, 93 = 1984 (27d147)good convention so far

July 25, 2016 - 17:08

Landon Perez

...

July 25, 2016 - 17:09

Logan Clark

Holy shit how'd you know I was mexican?

July 25, 2016 - 17:09

Jaxon Martin

Being against feminism is already a gimmick though

July 25, 2016 - 17:09

Josiah Cooper

Fam take it back to your torture chamber.

July 25, 2016 - 17:09

Isaac Myers

Maybe call yourself statue-chan or something. I don't know.

July 25, 2016 - 17:09

Jackson Peterson

THATS FUCKING 4CHAN
those bastards memed there way into the DNC

July 25, 2016 - 17:09

Lincoln Collins

These memes are doing crazy shit right now.

July 25, 2016 - 17:09

Jonathan Scott

We did it, 4chan!

July 25, 2016 - 17:10

Thomas Fisher

make one

July 25, 2016 - 17:10

Daniel Thomas

This happened before though….?

July 25, 2016 - 17:10

Nolan James

I think I'm going to post colorful propaganda images from UFO cults to separate myself more clearly

July 25, 2016 - 17:10

Isaac Scott

AHORITA

July 25, 2016 - 17:10

Ryan Gray

The FARC surrendered already.

July 25, 2016 - 17:10

Landon Myers

WHO IS THIS 4 CHAN?

Bookie Baldwin

July 25, 2016 - 17:10

Cooper Wilson

WAT

July 25, 2016 - 17:10

Camden Lopez

dude it happened like a month ago

July 25, 2016 - 17:11

Robert Wood

but will this be the farce, or the tragedy

July 25, 2016 - 17:11

Jose Scott

Holy fuck, no wonder why trump is going to win. This DNC shit is a huge cringe fest.

July 25, 2016 - 17:11

David Anderson

Read and weep boi.

July 25, 2016 - 17:12

Alexander Murphy

JUST CRINGE MY POLITICAL REVOLUTION UP

July 25, 2016 - 17:12

Jaxson Miller

Yep. Definitely true.

July 25, 2016 - 17:12

Carter Lee

Kek commands it.

July 25, 2016 - 17:12

Jackson Ortiz

I just figuered out flags guys…

heaven or hell.

July 25, 2016 - 17:12

Tyler Gutierrez

America should have been nuked

July 25, 2016 - 17:12

Juan Wright

Exactly my point. The Mexicans mean us no harm, and a lot of them are class conscious.

July 25, 2016 - 17:13

Luis Jones

They are going to become an actual political party and accomplish more than an armed rebellion in 2016's colombia could

July 25, 2016 - 17:13

Charles Evans

On June 23, 2016, the FARC signed a ceasefire accord with the President of Colombia, Juan Manuel Santos in Havana. Although a final peace agreement will require a referendum, this accord has been seen as a historic step to ending the war that has gone on for fifty years.

Is everyone in this world a cuck?

July 25, 2016 - 17:13

Dominic Cruz

hownew.ru

July 25, 2016 - 17:13

Xavier Butler

really makes you think…

July 25, 2016 - 17:13

David Watson

DNC is fearmongering on RNC levels

July 25, 2016 - 17:13

Owen Lee

Clinton is reeeeeeeaaaaaaally trying to get that latino vote.

July 25, 2016 - 17:13

Cooper Sanders

Dubs says what I finger myself to

July 25, 2016 - 17:14

Lucas Morgan

Red Bull up those riots.

July 25, 2016 - 17:14

Kevin Rogers

been lurking for like 8 months. Didn't have the confidence to post until recently.

cigar

July 25, 2016 - 17:14

Connor Watson

Colombian cocaine up these riots

July 25, 2016 - 17:14

Daniel Martin

The Cringe is real.

Gulag yourself

July 25, 2016 - 17:15

Lincoln Richardson

rt.com/usa/353124-sanders-memo-private-plane/

July 25, 2016 - 17:15

Dominic Peterson

Trips even. Wew.

July 25, 2016 - 17:15

Grayson Thompson

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/5492

yoooooooooooooooooooooooo

July 25, 2016 - 17:15

Levi Cruz

1800's Coca Cola when?

July 25, 2016 - 17:15

Ethan Mitchell

Well played. Well played indeed.

July 25, 2016 - 17:15

Jace Butler

nice trips, here's a get out of gulag free card

July 25, 2016 - 17:15

Carson Adams

AHORITA

July 25, 2016 - 17:15

Dominic Howard

all me

July 25, 2016 - 17:15

Aiden Edwards

Stop then.

July 25, 2016 - 17:16

Camden Parker

I'm going to finger myself to the idea of crying in a gulag with another girl who's alone and we try to find time to spare to hide in the soot and dust covered shack where filth and sweat combine and melt off our bodies in streaks

Thanks

July 25, 2016 - 17:16

Zachary Taylor

Sounds hot, but still kill yourself

July 25, 2016 - 17:16

Tyler Roberts

Wow!

Screen cap for proof.

July 25, 2016 - 17:17

Adrian Allen

Nobody dies in a gulag

July 25, 2016 - 17:17

Jaxon Gonzalez

Why'd you have to do a TL;DR of A Diary of Anne Frank.

July 25, 2016 - 17:17

Jonathan Hall

R34 edition

July 25, 2016 - 17:18

Joshua Murphy

kek.

July 25, 2016 - 17:18

Angel Ward

what

July 25, 2016 - 17:18

Liam Brooks

I screen'd it to keep it.

July 25, 2016 - 17:20

Dominic Wood

...

July 25, 2016 - 17:21

Oliver Rodriguez

why though, he didn't get dubs. do you not know how dubs work?

July 25, 2016 - 17:22

Cooper Miller

It was trips, and he was the tripster

July 25, 2016 - 17:22

Daniel Scott

this is your screencap. you did it of the wrong guy or something.
media.8ch.net/leftypol/src/1469492234592.png

July 25, 2016 - 17:23

Ryan Rodriguez

Then why are you bringing it up.

July 25, 2016 - 17:24

Xavier Rogers

Is Comrade S█████ ever going to show up?

July 25, 2016 - 17:24

Christian Ward

Hollywood isn't even hiding their power levels.

July 25, 2016 - 17:24

Brody Brooks

I'm not them, just trying to explain it. He's happy to have a get out of gulag free card..

July 25, 2016 - 17:25

Jaxon Perez

At the end when all his donors have to go to sleep for school tomorrow kek.

July 25, 2016 - 17:25

Landon Ortiz

So they got Shia "Just do it" Lebouf in the convention?

July 25, 2016 - 17:25

Eli Williams

Only when all of his supporters are exhausted from trying to have their voices heard.

July 25, 2016 - 17:25

Luis Brooks

I think B████ speaks at 10pm

July 25, 2016 - 17:25

Kevin Perry

You're dropping your redpill too early, comrade!

July 25, 2016 - 17:26

Henry Bell

JUST

July 25, 2016 - 17:26

Charles Walker

thats way past his bedtime

July 25, 2016 - 17:26

Josiah Barnes

Gotta stick to the classics

July 25, 2016 - 17:27

Owen Hernandez

What's the time over there right now?

It's 3:30 a.m. in Greece right now, I don't think I'll be up for much longer

Also, that last speaker was cringy as fuck.

July 25, 2016 - 17:28

Luis Rivera

Just give everyone in America free pure MDMA and drug us into a happy sexualized comatose stupor

July 25, 2016 - 17:28

Ethan Johnson

fuckers look back three years!
bitch thought you where pond scum

July 25, 2016 - 17:28

Jose Hughes

this is the single cheesiest ad i've ever seen help me i'm lactose intolerant

July 25, 2016 - 17:29

Nicholas Flores

...

July 25, 2016 - 17:29

Lucas Jackson

I'm in India, it's 6am

It's 8:30pm in Philly, USA now

July 25, 2016 - 17:29

Andrew Gray

My god that last guy was awful. We are fucked, Trump is going to win in a landslide.

What a joke

July 25, 2016 - 17:30

Chase Foster

Propaganda you mean

July 25, 2016 - 17:30

Justin Howard

whats your opinion of anime?

July 25, 2016 - 17:30

Brayden Garcia

The pandering continues. Damn I was getting excited for riots. Back to reading I guess.

July 25, 2016 - 17:30

Gavin Long

Just kill me already

July 25, 2016 - 17:30

Joshua Cruz

...

July 25, 2016 - 17:30

Carson Smith

Anybody else really like that Twin Peaks cover album Xiu Xiu put out

July 25, 2016 - 17:30

William Scott

Worse earlier.
Some Democrat came on peddling rhetoric you'd hear at a Republican convention. They had to sandwich it between Trump bashing just to escape how god awful it immediately sounded.

July 25, 2016 - 17:30

Elijah Gomez

IF ONLY

July 25, 2016 - 17:30

Nathaniel Ortiz

To be fair, the dnc is pretty fucking boring. You're right about that at least.

I just wanted a shitshow. Why can't I have nice things?

July 25, 2016 - 17:31

Anthony Torres

Do you accept this apology, Holla Forums?

July 25, 2016 - 17:32

Isaiah Rivera

BURN THEM ALL

July 25, 2016 - 17:33

Zachary Ross

America is already halfway there. But instead of MDMA, they use McDonalds, medication and TV to induce their comatose stupor

July 25, 2016 - 17:33

Connor Campbell

Oh I thought it WAS the DNC making those comments.

July 25, 2016 - 17:34

Brayden Perry

it only fuels my bloodlust

July 25, 2016 - 17:34

Jayden Russell

God someone just start a fire

July 25, 2016 - 17:34

Noah Gonzalez

...

July 25, 2016 - 17:34

Easton Martin

lol

July 25, 2016 - 17:34

Luis Richardson

Doesn't change the fact that the oligarch bourgeois chosen their new puppet. Can't even enjoy reading Marx without realizing how shit we in america are in.

July 25, 2016 - 17:34

Nolan Green

AUSTIN GOOLSBE?

That Obama cocksucker!

July 25, 2016 - 17:34

Christopher Nelson

Give me us free mdma and hookah so we can at least pretend shitty civilization is just a bad rave

July 25, 2016 - 17:35

Dylan Gonzalez

Idpol, the convention.

July 25, 2016 - 17:35

Luis Perez

That's already my daily life

July 25, 2016 - 17:35

Kayden Williams

I couldn't decide between me and us

July 25, 2016 - 17:35

Gabriel Myers

DNC is finally hitting Trump on outsourcing jobs.
too bad they're doing the same thing

July 25, 2016 - 17:36

Asher Collins

Bourgeois democracy never again

July 25, 2016 - 17:36

Michael Martinez

...

July 25, 2016 - 17:37

Jacob Ross

Is he planning something?

July 25, 2016 - 17:38

Liam Howard

Why can't we have a candidate against jobs?

July 25, 2016 - 17:38

Jackson Sullivan

I have it on mute since my roommate had to take a phone call but my cat umuted for just a moment. There's some lesbian stanning for Clinton, right? I hate to be IDpol, but as a woman-leaning bi girl, Clinton doesn't give a shit about LGBTQ+ people and our struggles. She only "cares" about us when it's politically expedient. What kind of bourgeois bullshit….

Of course they run all this Clinton propaganda for days before they're supposed to vote on the nominee.

Yes, I know class is far more important than orientation and expending significant time, energy, and resources fighting for LGBTQ+ rights instead of the working class is a waste.

July 25, 2016 - 17:38

Brandon Lee

Suicide most likely.

July 25, 2016 - 17:38

Christian Myers

Bob Black for President!
Make America Sleep in Again!

July 25, 2016 - 17:39

Brody Richardson

Has any speaker up until now said anything that Hillary will do if she's elected, instead of what Trump will do if he's elected?

July 25, 2016 - 17:39

Cooper Ross

lol fuck no

they can burn

July 25, 2016 - 17:40

Gabriel Mitchell

Thinking he has is the only reason I’m watching.

July 25, 2016 - 17:40

Joseph Myers

Delegates & supporters will do what they want or feel is right. I hope B████'s just covering his ass here.

Please riot, guys.

July 25, 2016 - 17:40

Alexander Ward

Nope because she doesn't have a clue. she been using idpol to win and the only thing we do know for sure is more endless wars in the middle east to fuel their Bourgeois capitalist masters.

July 25, 2016 - 17:41

Chase Brown

Slogans run amuck.

July 25, 2016 - 17:41

Nolan Scott

*he is

Probably this.

July 25, 2016 - 17:41

Bentley Jenkins

...

July 25, 2016 - 17:41

Jonathan Moore

I'm gonna fall asleep

July 25, 2016 - 17:42

William Russell

THIS IS AMERICA, YOU CAN ACCOMPLISH ALL YOU SET YOUR MIND TO! THE BARRIERS ARE ONLY IN YOUR MIND!

Pls

July 25, 2016 - 17:42

Lincoln Flores

Or he just soullessly urges everyone to vote for Hillary. He's a phony anyways.

July 25, 2016 - 17:43

Benjamin Diaz

He doesn't want the DNC to label his movement as a radical fringe element like the Tea Party. They're looking for any excuse to destroy us since we took out DWS.

Donald Trump is the Democrats entire platform.

July 25, 2016 - 17:43

Ayden Wright

If the Happening must happen so be it.

July 25, 2016 - 17:43

Justin Hughes

i want to believe so bad

July 25, 2016 - 17:43

Liam Edwards

No, B████'s gonna speak at like 10 EST, I think. You might miss a happening.

July 25, 2016 - 17:43

Aaron Price

TP still isn't considered fringe, OWS however……

Bernie isn't done after this cycle.

July 25, 2016 - 17:44

Christian Hughes

pathetic.

July 25, 2016 - 17:44

Joseph Thomas

...

July 25, 2016 - 17:44

Jonathan Torres

Christ, this reeks of business/technical writing.

July 25, 2016 - 17:45

Dominic Peterson

oh god they're attacking trump with more IDpol

July 25, 2016 - 17:45

Leo Diaz

capitulation

that's why it ways on him so much, because he sees the revolutionary fervor he's waited a lifetime to see and he's going to have to let millions of people down for what he thinks is the greater good

July 25, 2016 - 17:45

Carson Watson

If Hillary suffers disappointing electoral performance, surely such a protest at the right time is needed to link it to DNC corruption? S█████ will be blamed next election cycle regardless of whether his supporters draw attention to the leaks, but if they protest today the smoking gun is obvious.

July 25, 2016 - 17:45

Jose Rivera

The American political elections are literally just electing which off brand human jabba the hutt we have to worry about

July 25, 2016 - 17:46

Thomas Lewis

...

July 25, 2016 - 17:46

Charles Cooper

That's the only thing going for them besides pandering.

July 25, 2016 - 17:46

Carson Wood

I hope you keep being strong enough to read theory user

July 25, 2016 - 17:46

Jack Fisher

weighs*

July 25, 2016 - 17:46

Jayden Rodriguez

WHO ARE YOU?

July 25, 2016 - 17:47

Parker Nguyen

...

July 25, 2016 - 17:47

Juan Moore

remember who you nominated

July 25, 2016 - 17:47

Connor Rodriguez

Is B████ the Zodiac Killer's clone confirmed?

July 25, 2016 - 17:48

Nathan Diaz

Seems like the Sandman supporters got more balls than the Sandman himself.

Is he cucked? Yes, yes he is.

July 25, 2016 - 17:48

Austin Gray

Ted Cruz is the Zodiac Killer.

B████ ██████ is an older D. B. Cooper

July 25, 2016 - 17:48

Landon Turner

Real talk fam. Do you have a fart fetish? Would you fart in my face?

Cause if the DNC is going to do it this entire convention, I'd at least like to get off on it.

July 25, 2016 - 17:49

Nicholas Howard

Stop saying cuck this meme's amusement died in 2014

July 25, 2016 - 17:49

Lucas Wilson

...

July 25, 2016 - 17:49

Nicholas Campbell

he just wants to have his "political revolution" candidates in place in case Trump wins.

Trump is shit but Trump with a congress and senate with him is even shittier.

July 25, 2016 - 17:49

Ayden Thompson

figures with the 220 million he ran off with

July 25, 2016 - 17:49

Ian Howard

I don't like farting.

July 25, 2016 - 17:49

Ryder Ward

saved

July 25, 2016 - 17:50

Dylan Hill

CAN YOU FUCKING NOT

July 25, 2016 - 17:50

Kevin Carter

Cuck cuckity cuck.

Free speech motherfucker.

July 25, 2016 - 17:50

Andrew Taylor

Are you one of those weird ass people who have to go to the bathroom to fart or something?

July 25, 2016 - 17:50

Gavin Foster

Is this a copy and paste of the last white guy's speech?

July 25, 2016 - 17:50

Isaac Wright

Hehe thanks, In college I am a Historian and learning Political Science on the side. So reading Marx and Engels to understand the theory behind Marxism. Then read Lenin and Trotsky to get different views.

Das Captial will be a bit of a difficult read since the first volume is huge. But what I had in mind was writing down what I understood from each chapter and figure out what Marx was trying to make in context.

Heh if I can get through this theory reading other socialist/communist theories should be no problem.

July 25, 2016 - 17:50

Anthony Nguyen

Remember, the media is in the DNC's pocket. Any protest will be seen as "UNCONTROLLABLE B████ BROS ARE DOING NAZI SALUTES TO THEIR REAL MASTER: DONALD TRUMP".

If you think that's a joke, it's been all over Twitter today. There are a lot of articles out there painting the sad booing he received as evidence of us being Sander's Frankenstein monster.

July 25, 2016 - 17:50

Kevin Morris

lmao, good one

:(

July 25, 2016 - 17:51

Levi James

Free speech a a concept doesn't exist.

Anyways in concept, yes you have free speech to not be funny. I have free speech to point out your jokes died in 2014

July 25, 2016 - 17:51

Grayson Russell

No. I just fart quietly and usually,

it's smelly.

July 25, 2016 - 17:51

Levi Bell

Then cuck cuckity cuck.

What are you going to do about it?

July 25, 2016 - 17:52

Jason Jenkins

I remember reading on r/Sanders for president where someone took a second mortgage just to donate to B████.

July 25, 2016 - 17:52

Luke Ward

SBD

July 25, 2016 - 17:52

Anthony Morris

Yeah, let's just quietly vote for Hillary Clinton i.e. what the Sandman wants.

July 25, 2016 - 17:52

Leo Gutierrez

That's bs Holla Forums posts, lmao, but I think you know that

July 25, 2016 - 17:52

Matthew Perry

wow man you sure showed him

July 25, 2016 - 17:52

Jaxon Price

hey look it's even less funny Jon Stewart here to Shill for the Hill

July 25, 2016 - 17:52

Josiah Stewart

Tell you that your jokes died in 2014

July 25, 2016 - 17:53

Anthony Nguyen

JUST

Why didn't I screen cap it

July 25, 2016 - 17:53

Carson King

Well, it's 2016 and cuck lives!

July 25, 2016 - 17:53

Jonathan Watson

remember when al franken was cool

July 25, 2016 - 17:54

Luke Turner

no

July 25, 2016 - 17:54

Samuel Rivera

nypost.com/2016/07/24/facebook-admits-to-blocking-wikileaks-links-in-dnc-email-hack/

July 25, 2016 - 17:54

Dominic Jackson

he was only ever cool if you were a liberal

July 25, 2016 - 17:54

Caleb Jones

It died in 2014. It's not funny anymore. It lost its appeal.

July 25, 2016 - 17:54

Evan Scott

lame

July 25, 2016 - 17:55

Justin Jackson

Not really, cuck is still here, no matter how you deny it.

July 25, 2016 - 17:55

Samuel Brown

What do your farts usually smell like, tell me more.

July 25, 2016 - 17:55

Julian Myers

Trump's just going to steam roll him when he sees this.

July 25, 2016 - 17:55

Xavier Morgan

cuck needs rebranding

July 25, 2016 - 17:56

Austin Russell

Normies have taken it. Let go.

July 25, 2016 - 17:56

Cooper Brooks

What, no?

It's in fact a good thing everyone start calling each other cucks.

July 25, 2016 - 17:56

Justin Morales

Watching MSNBC right now.
They are going in hard on this Russian conspiracy theory bullshit.

July 25, 2016 - 17:56

Aiden Scott

Can't be too funny or you'll kill all of the Hillary supporters.

July 25, 2016 - 17:57

Owen Allen

Cuck is dead. It's time to grow up. It isn't senior year 2013 anymore. Three years have passed. People who use it are laughed at. I'm laughing at you right now

Banana flavored perfume.

July 25, 2016 - 17:57

Joshua Bell

Someone get Eric Andre to crash the convention already

July 25, 2016 - 17:57

Charles Miller

Madam President, pls get sniped

t. American people

July 25, 2016 - 17:57

Christopher Wilson

I fail to see why anyone should give a shit about any of that

if they're the sort of stooge that listens to what twitter or the media tells them then they aren't worth considering anyway

July 25, 2016 - 17:57

Luis Robinson

And nobody is listening.

July 25, 2016 - 17:58

Isaac Adams

So sad to see this guy turn into such a cowardly prick.

Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot and Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them were such funny books too.

July 25, 2016 - 17:58

Dominic Nelson

Was it even the "russians" that did that? Or are they just spinning some fucking lie. Is there even proof?

July 25, 2016 - 17:58

Ethan Rogers

...

July 25, 2016 - 17:58

Josiah Clark

What the cuck did you just cucking say about me, you Iittle cuck? l’ll have you know l cucked cuck of my class in the Kencucky State Cuckiversity, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret cucks on CuckQuaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed cucks. I am trained in cuckoo warfare and I’m the top cucker in the entire Holla Forums cuck forces. You are nothing to me but just another cuck. l will cuck you the cuck out with precision the likes of which has never been cucked before on this Earth, cuck my cucking cucks. You think you can get away with cucking that cuckery to me over the Cuckternet? Cuck again, cucker. As we cuck I am cucktacting my secret cuckwork of cucks across the board and your IP is being cucked right now so you better prepare for the cuckpockalypse, cuckold. The cucklone that cucks out the pathetic little thing you call your wife. You’re cucking cucked, cuck-o. l can cuck anywhere, anytime, and l can cuck you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare dick. Not onIy am l extensively trained in unarmed cuckbat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the Holla Forums Mandingo Corps and l will use it to its full extent to cuck your miserable ass off the face of the cucktinent, you little cuck. lf only you could have known what unholy cucktribution your little “clever” cuckment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your cucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re cucking the price, you cuckdamn idiot. l will cuck fury all over you and you will be cucked in it. You’re cucking cucked, cuck-o

July 25, 2016 - 17:58

Thomas Morales

is anyone surprised? Anything to keep attention off the emails themselves

July 25, 2016 - 17:58

Bentley Kelly

>"Ha Ha Trump. Isn't he racist?"

This is just sad.

July 25, 2016 - 17:58

Samuel Campbell

xxxxxxxxxxxDDDDDDDDDDDD

July 25, 2016 - 17:59

Andrew Rivera

That makes them useful idiots for the DNC.

Assange said himself that the Russians weren't involved.

July 25, 2016 - 17:59

Luke Fisher

I haven't seen or heard any if there is.
All I've seen so far is conjecture.

July 25, 2016 - 17:59

Liam Sanchez

How does that happen?

They're hoping they can start another red scare kind of thing I guess, idk. It's fucking dumb though.

July 25, 2016 - 17:59

Easton Clark

It's time to stop lad.

July 25, 2016 - 17:59

Parker Cox

...

July 25, 2016 - 17:59

William Ramirez

There is absolutely no proof aside from the malware used to do it was of russian make

it's like saying the mujahadeen are russian agents because they use AKs

July 25, 2016 - 18:00

Ethan Cruz

I am still wondering when they will stop trying to Roast Trump and using fear tactics. Its rather annoying if you ask me.

July 25, 2016 - 18:00

Josiah Green

Sarcasm?

July 25, 2016 - 18:00

Josiah Gutierrez

Now we just need to be ironic about it and go shit up another board.

July 25, 2016 - 18:00

Nathaniel Myers

fuck off normalfag

July 25, 2016 - 18:00

Brody Anderson

the music selection sucks

July 25, 2016 - 18:00

Kayden Rivera

weak imo.

July 25, 2016 - 18:00

James Gutierrez

BABY

EVERYTHING IS ALRIGHT

UPTIGHT

OUT OF SIGHT

July 25, 2016 - 18:01

Lincoln Wood

Wow they are removing S█████ supporters from the floor.

They've taken away so many signs and are literally removing people

July 25, 2016 - 18:01

Ayden Taylor

Source??

July 25, 2016 - 18:02

Isaiah Clark

They're not going to stop because that's all they have.

Unlike S█████, Hillary doesn't have any plans that don't involve pissing off the working class.

July 25, 2016 - 18:02

Jayden Walker

Why is 5anders auto redacted?

July 25, 2016 - 18:02

Cameron Peterson

I don't know about removing people, but here's a vid of the signs.

twitter.com/regated/status/757690019138117632

July 25, 2016 - 18:02

Wyatt Russell

They're trying to shift focus away from the content of the emails to the hack itself as a crime.

It's like when Watergate happened and Nixon tried to get people concerned about the leak violating his privacy than addressing what the leak was saying.

July 25, 2016 - 18:03

Bentley Hernandez

so original such funny

:DDDD

July 25, 2016 - 18:03

Camden Perry

welcome newfriend

July 25, 2016 - 18:03

Sebastian Stewart

DUDE TRUMP LMAO DUDE TRUMP LMAO DUDE TRUMP LMAO DUDE TRUMP LMAO DUDE TRUMP LMAO DUDE TRUMP LMAO DUDE TRUMP LMAO DUDE TRUMP LMAO DUDE TRUMP LMAO DUDE TRUMP LMAO DUDE TRUMP LMAO DUDE TRUMP LMAO DUDE TRUMP LMAO DUDE TRUMP LMAO DUDE TRUMP LMAO DUDE TRUMP LMAO DUDE TRUMP LMAO DUDE TRUMP LMAO DUDE TRUMP LMAO DUDE TRUMP LMAO

July 25, 2016 - 18:03

Tyler Wood

...

July 25, 2016 - 18:04

Grayson Ross

what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what is this

July 25, 2016 - 18:04

Jaxon Cooper

OH GOD MAKE IT STOP

July 25, 2016 - 18:04

Jacob Cooper

I come here all the time, this is the first time I've seen this

July 25, 2016 - 18:04

Brayden Parker

Never because the people who they want to come out to vote will just have these sound bites in their heads and never do any research for facts beyond it.

Post what you are listening to while you wait for comrade S█████ leftypol.
youtube.com/watch?v=6HP04nfUi4g
**need to keep my mind off the pain.

July 25, 2016 - 18:04

Henry Sanchez

I heard Chris Reeves is also speaking at the DNC

July 25, 2016 - 18:04

Mason Murphy

He's right about that though. Hillary's a civillian :^)

July 25, 2016 - 18:05

Ian Edwards

This poor girl is going to be memed into oblivion :/

July 25, 2016 - 18:05

Grayson Morris

I am going to agree with you on this. But don't they know that using idpol isn't going to stop his supporters from voting for him. Since you know he is anti-pc.

Can this convention be any worse?

July 25, 2016 - 18:05

Jack Price

man this is a real fucking low.

July 25, 2016 - 18:06

Evan King

youtube.com/watch?v=Fck3P8usTCQ

July 25, 2016 - 18:06

Owen Torres

That's exactly what I was thinking. Of course it's gonna happen though, it's the internet.

July 25, 2016 - 18:06

Jonathan Kelly

Seriously. I think I need to go pray..

July 25, 2016 - 18:07

Brandon Cruz

I turned on the audio only to be disgusted and sickened even more.
HOW IS THIS EVEN POSSIBLE

July 25, 2016 - 18:07

Isaiah Diaz

youtube.com/watch?v=ENnmG3B3tvI&list=PLvmd0GbP1_Iy2B-s8dslrU3Xc5B0NDbw5

July 25, 2016 - 18:07

David Jackson

Good thing god doesn't exist and hell isn't real cause I'm laughing my ass off.

July 25, 2016 - 18:07

Jason Walker

not watching the stream, what's happening right now?

July 25, 2016 - 18:07

Ian Murphy

Some cripple is shilling for Hillary

July 25, 2016 - 18:08

Lincoln Carter

a girl with cerebral palsy came on stage and called Trump a meanie bo beanie

July 25, 2016 - 18:08

Leo White

The political fallout of the leak has irradiated the convention.

July 25, 2016 - 18:08

Daniel Long

Guys. Inside info here.

comr8 bernard reveals his entryism in this speech and pulls a Ted Cruz, but even bigger

July 25, 2016 - 18:08

Elijah Thomas

That pandering of latinos, the Roasting of Donald Trump, and the kiss ass Bourgeois to Shillary. Oh and /idpol/ shit too.

July 25, 2016 - 18:09

Joshua Sanchez

They have a poor cripple girl with a lisp crying about Trump and saying she does not exist for people like him.
She is literally on the verge of tears

July 25, 2016 - 18:09

Isaac Lewis

...

July 25, 2016 - 18:09

William Reed

...

July 25, 2016 - 18:09

Jose Sanders

Remember when eugenics was popular? Those were the days.

July 25, 2016 - 18:09

Austin Perry

source? Or just wishful thinking?

July 25, 2016 - 18:09

Alexander Bailey

I want to believe.

July 25, 2016 - 18:09

Aaron Evans

We can't prove it either way.

But I felt bad for laughing.

July 25, 2016 - 18:09

Joshua Miller

That's not surprising at all. I mean, I'm sure a muted video of children and infants being burned alive is less disgusting and disturbing then it is with audio.

July 25, 2016 - 18:09

Christopher Reyes

when will it end

July 25, 2016 - 18:09

Owen Hernandez

Don't let yourself be hurt this time.
Don't let yourself be hurt this time.

July 25, 2016 - 18:09

Ayden Adams

Doesn't Sarah Silverman hate Hillary?

July 25, 2016 - 18:10

Hunter Reed

Stop making fun of this poor girl jesus christ

July 25, 2016 - 18:10

Julian Bailey

If we were to dress up Ben Shapiro or another Republican from the NeverTrump movement in a disguise and put them on stage to give a speech, how long would it take before anyone in the audience really noticed?

July 25, 2016 - 18:10

Jackson Hernandez

Fucking kek.

July 25, 2016 - 18:10

Samuel Campbell

She endorsed B████, I have no idea what she's doing here

July 25, 2016 - 18:10

Connor Allen

Gotta get those funny people da kids like.

July 25, 2016 - 18:10

Sebastian Gonzalez

Not bad fams.

youtube.com/watch?v=WbgsWLMGHas

July 25, 2016 - 18:10

Jayden Scott

DIG THIS SOUND

SPINNIN ROUND AND ROUND

July 25, 2016 - 18:11

Jack Peterson

i doubt the fuck out of that.

July 25, 2016 - 18:11

Cooper Turner

Everyone is too bitter to care about some poor crippled grill.

July 25, 2016 - 18:11

Jonathan Adams

I gotta say that music was really soothing and calming. I could meditate to this music if I wanted to.

July 25, 2016 - 18:12

Hunter Wood

If only… how long into that do you think before mics and feeds started cutting out?

July 25, 2016 - 18:12

Chase King

I liek

July 25, 2016 - 18:13

David Hernandez

Lineup

July 25, 2016 - 18:13

Robert Perez

It's going to happen just a matter of if it's today or in the next few days. Delegates have been discussing Hillary's electablity all day, especially considering how much Trump is ahead of her right now.

July 25, 2016 - 18:14

Adam Martinez

Guys, insider info here. Dozens of containers of VX gas are hidden throughout the building, soon to detonate.

July 25, 2016 - 18:14

Dominic Anderson

...

July 25, 2016 - 18:14

Zachary Kelly

COMRADE S█████ CONFIRMED WEARING V.I. LENIN PIN

youtube.com/watch?v=efBhOX-JWpI

July 25, 2016 - 18:15

Ryan Lopez

Guys, insider info here. B████ has a KGB agent in the crowd that will assassinate Hillary live on stage

July 25, 2016 - 18:15

Easton Mitchell

lmao

I hope. Burn it all, Queen Cersei style

July 25, 2016 - 18:15

Nathaniel Roberts

Why would S█████ tell anyone this?

You'd have to be the big man himself.

July 25, 2016 - 18:16

Ian Lee

SILVERMAN THROWING IT DOWN

July 25, 2016 - 18:16

Carson Price

HASHTAG HILARY TODAY AND WIN A FREE VACATION

July 25, 2016 - 18:16

Dominic Adams

FOR YOU

July 25, 2016 - 18:17

Adrian White

It dosn't burn. Just kills you.

July 25, 2016 - 18:17

Sebastian Peterson

Bretty good thanks for the new band fam

Sometimes they do overdo the heart-the-fuck-out vocals but their production is always good and they stay consistent with all dem feels.
youtube.com/watch?v=7qfxCvwyxms

July 25, 2016 - 18:18

Mason James

guys, insider here. S█████ is going to sacrifice Hillary to lucifer during his speech and call for satanic communism

July 25, 2016 - 18:18

William Bennett

stupid watamote poster

July 25, 2016 - 18:18

Zachary Fisher

np fam, /mu/tant here. Think I got it from a share thread off there a couple days ago, not sure.

July 25, 2016 - 18:19

Xavier Miller

Wow. They are booing like crazy when Hillary is mentioned.

They are literally saying you can win a trip to philly if you signup on her website

July 25, 2016 - 18:19

Jeremiah Martin

...

July 25, 2016 - 18:19

Bentley Anderson

Sarah Silverman sold out

July 25, 2016 - 18:20

Ryder Perry

...

July 25, 2016 - 18:20

Luke Miller

You people think that a majority of Americans don't buy the bullshit of this election in cynicism, same people who would be hard pressed to explain the continual popularity of Oprah.

Clinton is going to win and we should be bracing for that than celebrating Trump's premature victory nobody should even want either.

July 25, 2016 - 18:20

Anthony Wright

Awwww

July 25, 2016 - 18:20

Charles Jones

...

July 25, 2016 - 18:20

Robert Jenkins

She's a rich celebrity, what did you expect. A person with morals?

July 25, 2016 - 18:20

Connor Hall

Because I really needed that

July 25, 2016 - 18:21

David Clark

I feel so inspired to hate right now.

July 25, 2016 - 18:21

Jeremiah Baker

youtube.com/watch?v=wJVpihgwE18

A classic.

July 25, 2016 - 18:21

Brandon Thomas

I know. She can be burned along with them.

July 25, 2016 - 18:21

Blake Sanders

YOU'RE BEING RIDICULOUS

July 25, 2016 - 18:21

Brody Bell

SHE'S BURNING THE ROPE

July 25, 2016 - 18:21

Austin Lewis

...

July 25, 2016 - 18:21

Jayden Williams

TELL ME ABOUT B████, WHY DOES HE APPEAL TO THE PEOPLE

July 25, 2016 - 18:22

Angel Young

I have the audio off right now are these two seriously trying to do a standup routine

July 25, 2016 - 18:22

Asher Edwards

BERNIE B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████ B████

July 25, 2016 - 18:22

Cooper Wood

lmfao

July 25, 2016 - 18:22

Dominic Johnson

Holy shit.

I was actually going to vote for Hillary, but after hearing Sarah say that, I'm not going to do it.

July 25, 2016 - 18:23

Adam Jones

WE'RE LIKE A BRIDGE

July 25, 2016 - 18:23

Jaxson Perry

Best moment of the night tbh.

July 25, 2016 - 18:23

Wyatt White

Paul, Paul, Paul, don't do this. You have talent

July 25, 2016 - 18:23

Zachary Sullivan

OH MY FUCKING GOD KILL ME

July 25, 2016 - 18:24

Justin Scott

RIDICULOUS? Get this cunt out of here. She'll need security on her way out.. I hope.

July 25, 2016 - 18:24

Anthony Phillips

literally who

July 25, 2016 - 18:24

Nathaniel Cox

...

July 25, 2016 - 18:24

Brody Morgan

Lmao, wtf are they doing

July 25, 2016 - 18:24

Henry Martin

...

July 25, 2016 - 18:25

Michael Myers

It's called damage control comrade.

July 25, 2016 - 18:25

Jack Cruz

Seriously? How young are you?

How old am I?

July 25, 2016 - 18:25

Michael Ortiz

Why should the S█████' camp embrace Hillary when she has done nothing to embrace them? That's like telling a child to leave their radical grandpa and live with a disinterested aunt.

July 25, 2016 - 18:25

Gavin Martin

...

July 25, 2016 - 18:25

Christopher Jones

please be trolling

July 25, 2016 - 18:26

Anthony Robinson

You can be funny and call someone a cunt without coming off/sounding like someone threatening their vice principle.

July 25, 2016 - 18:26

Ryder Gray

ARREST THIS MAN, THOUGHT POLICE!

July 25, 2016 - 18:26

Isaiah Lee

Just got 10 feet higher

July 25, 2016 - 18:26

Daniel Sullivan

what was it?

July 25, 2016 - 18:26

Hudson Taylor

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH SHIT SINGING, MAKE IT STOP!!!!

July 25, 2016 - 18:26

Nathan Cruz

But he praises B████.

July 25, 2016 - 18:27

Jack Green

Guys, I know no one will believe me, but B████ was supposed to speak much earlier.

Last minute after seeing the backlash, he made changes to his speech. When it was reviewed, DNC rejected it and now have him literally in a room with a bunch of people trying to convince him to change it. This is why he hasn't come up yet

July 25, 2016 - 18:27

Ryder Perez

Vice principle? Wat?

July 25, 2016 - 18:27

Oliver Morris

pure autism

July 25, 2016 - 18:27

Juan Sanders

Ok anybody that goes by the name Square Pizza here?

July 25, 2016 - 18:27

Gabriel Sanchez

...

July 25, 2016 - 18:27

Sebastian Nguyen

proofs?

July 25, 2016 - 18:28

Colton Ortiz

She said the B████ or Busters were "being ridiculous"

I'm glad she did, though, maybe it'll put a fire up their ass since this shit has been so boring

July 25, 2016 - 18:28

Carter Lewis

Evidence?

July 25, 2016 - 18:28

Nicholas Diaz

Isn't the jist of his speech that he'll be handing his delegates over to Clinton?

July 25, 2016 - 18:29

Nolan Richardson

verification?

July 25, 2016 - 18:29

Jason Thompson

wh-what?

July 25, 2016 - 18:29

Colton Robinson

America or American tune would've been much better.

July 25, 2016 - 18:29

Daniel Morgan

who wants him to change it? clintoncucks or berners?

July 25, 2016 - 18:30

Jeremiah Edwards

I think B████'s smarter than that. He should give them a dummy speech & flip the script once he's out there.

July 25, 2016 - 18:30

Jordan Roberts

Not joking. Right now they have officially moved him to the end of the of the speaking list because he's being "stubborn"

July 25, 2016 - 18:30

Ian Morales

stream pls

July 25, 2016 - 18:30

Aaron Lee

youtube.com/watch?v=HQgRZtIND9Q

July 25, 2016 - 18:31

Aiden Moore

Give your source asshole

July 25, 2016 - 18:31

Luke Stewart

twitch.tv/dnc2016

July 25, 2016 - 18:31

Asher Rogers

youtube.com/watch?v=PAUyp6BR6-E

July 25, 2016 - 18:31

Nicholas Parker

When do we get to the twerking!

July 25, 2016 - 18:32

Gabriel Myers

Clinton/Democrats

July 25, 2016 - 18:32

Andrew Cook

Bit too old-timey for me but thanks.
The ironing is too thick but not enough to block out the pain.

July 25, 2016 - 18:32

Cooper Garcia

This guy looks like Frank Underwood

July 25, 2016 - 18:33

Chase Jones

Soon, Clinton needs the minority vote.

July 25, 2016 - 18:33

Camden King

fuck off

July 25, 2016 - 18:34

Jordan Foster

Source?

July 25, 2016 - 18:34

Henry Johnson

Oh my god, a celebrity! I should listen to her because celebrities know what they're talking about

July 25, 2016 - 18:34

Carter Wood

I've never heard of her, but she has a nice butt at least

July 25, 2016 - 18:35

Gabriel White

Daily reminder that Hillary supporters are anti-semitic

July 25, 2016 - 18:35

Evan Walker

They're really overselling how Hillary isn't a reptilian overlord.

July 25, 2016 - 18:36

Ian Reed

...

July 25, 2016 - 18:36

Brayden Price

*nothing but boos*

July 25, 2016 - 18:36

David Wilson

...

July 25, 2016 - 18:37

Jason Barnes

friendly banter, tovarisch.

Well the evil russians created those fake emails

July 25, 2016 - 18:38

Asher Phillips

It's the only way B████ can consolidate his absolute commitment to beating Trump.

There's absolutely nothing worth watching in B████'s speech if you're a S█████ supporter.

July 25, 2016 - 18:38

Ayden Brown

...

July 25, 2016 - 18:38

Daniel Sanchez

What do you have against watamote?

July 25, 2016 - 18:38

Carter Edwards

He's a traitor and I hope his supporters riot.

July 25, 2016 - 18:39

Luis Stewart

THEY ARE SILENCING THE B████ SUPPORTERS IN THE CROWD

twitter.com/regated/status/757690019138117632

July 25, 2016 - 18:39

Chase Ortiz

😂😂😂

July 25, 2016 - 18:39

Justin Barnes

youtube.com/watch?v=tjGEHIkZ7ss&feature=youtu.be&t=63

July 25, 2016 - 18:40

Dylan Moore

To be fair, that was obviously an attempt at an awkward joke rather than anything else.

July 25, 2016 - 18:41

Justin Watson

vox.com/2016/7/25/12279822/democratic-national-convention-boo-cummings-fudge-platform

Friendly reminder that booing a person of color on the stage is racist

July 25, 2016 - 18:41

Jose Walker

There was nothing joke-y about it

July 25, 2016 - 18:42

Christian Wood

Sarah Silverman's comedy is entirely based around seeming awkward and not funny. This seems fitting for her.

July 25, 2016 - 18:42

Eli Kelly

archive link
archive.is/x5HsW

July 25, 2016 - 18:42

Michael Reyes

that didn't sound planned at all.

July 25, 2016 - 18:42

Andrew Martin

top pleb.

July 25, 2016 - 18:43

Owen Lopez

GOTTA GO FAST

July 25, 2016 - 18:43

Sebastian Wood

You're a retard

July 25, 2016 - 18:43

Jeremiah Davis

Cheers m8

July 25, 2016 - 18:43

Colton Harris

Oh, no doubt. My guess is she's made that joke before and pulled it out in the hopes of looking less embarrassing, it just didn't work.

July 25, 2016 - 18:43

Samuel Ortiz

THIS GUY IS A WALL STREET COCKSUCKER

July 25, 2016 - 18:44

William Morris

I can't really tell where Booker is going with this

July 25, 2016 - 18:45

Angel Morales

She's a comedian, I think she has more sense/self awareness than that

Good though, it pissed off B████ supporters even more

July 25, 2016 - 18:45

Thomas Morris

...

July 25, 2016 - 18:45

Brandon Gutierrez

So's Chris Crisco.

July 25, 2016 - 18:47

Jason Lee

Jersey is the Florida of the North

July 25, 2016 - 18:47

Sebastian Cox

You doubled down on Hillary.

July 25, 2016 - 18:47

Gabriel Torres

she told a nigger joke on tv, among a ton of other things, her shtick is edgy awkward humor, it's been that was for 20 years, it's just 90% of people on this board are under 20 and didn't grow up in the 90s/early 2000s to see it

July 25, 2016 - 18:47

Thomas Mitchell

But Florida is the fun one.

July 25, 2016 - 18:47

Jacob Murphy

Because gators

July 25, 2016 - 18:48

Charles Ortiz

Booker is having an Obama moment.

youtu.be/eWynt87PaJ0

July 25, 2016 - 18:48

Joshua Jenkins

There is nothing fun about old people and cuban terrorists

July 25, 2016 - 18:48

Gavin Price

WAR HAWK WAR HAWK WAR HAWK

July 25, 2016 - 18:48

Evan Foster

I'm 29, used to love her show. I get her humor, but that wasn't it

July 25, 2016 - 18:49

Gavin Nguyen

WAR HAWKS
WAR HAWKS
WAR HAWKS

July 25, 2016 - 18:49

John Thomas

Check to see if he has a Jeremiah Wright type pastor.

July 25, 2016 - 18:49

Carson Hall

feels bad

July 25, 2016 - 18:49

Jaxson Morales

But Florida has warm beaches.

July 25, 2016 - 18:49

Caleb Taylor

I've been a "vote for the lesser evil" guy since Clinton won the nomination but Jesus Christ, why are they making it so difficult for me to hold to this position?

They seem to think that you can mock and bully millions of people into compliance.

July 25, 2016 - 18:49

Christian Harris

Rip Vermont

July 25, 2016 - 18:50

Nicholas Miller

He couldn't say it.

He couldn't say it was a right.

July 25, 2016 - 18:50

Thomas Ortiz

...

July 25, 2016 - 18:50

Nathan Clark

BLM rush soon?

July 25, 2016 - 18:51

Lincoln Brown

This audience is hilarious

July 25, 2016 - 18:51

John Martin

...

July 25, 2016 - 18:52

Matthew Turner

Aren't most voting for hillary?

July 25, 2016 - 18:52

Austin Stewart

BLACK LIVES MATTER
BLACK LIVES MATTER
BLACK LIVES MATTER

July 25, 2016 - 18:52

Jace Green

go figure.

July 25, 2016 - 18:53

Logan Butler

Where did you get that idea from?

Most BLM dudes I see are also pro-Sanders.

July 25, 2016 - 18:53

Levi Taylor

I remember lots of Blacks supported B████. I think they'll stay home instead of voting for Hill Dog.

July 25, 2016 - 18:53

Grayson Cook

YA'LL KNOW IT

July 25, 2016 - 18:53

Oliver Sullivan

RUSH NOW

July 25, 2016 - 18:54

Cooper Phillips

twitter.com/Snowden/status/757638131529060352

July 25, 2016 - 18:54

Anthony Jackson

Why does America fetishize soldiers so much?

July 25, 2016 - 18:54

Nathan Gomez

ZERG RUSH NOW

July 25, 2016 - 18:54

Tyler Sanchez

...

July 25, 2016 - 18:55

Cooper Campbell

because they protect muh freedoms and muh constitution

July 25, 2016 - 18:55

Isaiah Evans

I bet he went to Yale instead of Harvard :^)

July 25, 2016 - 18:55

Ian Edwards

Holla Forums ON SUICIDE WATCH

July 25, 2016 - 18:55

Elijah Harris

Noice trips.

July 25, 2016 - 18:55

Grayson Garcia

looks like the skinny guy from key and peele

July 25, 2016 - 18:55

Austin Williams

They literally handed out signs to replace the B████ signs

July 25, 2016 - 18:55

Noah Ramirez

SNOWDEN REPRESENT

July 25, 2016 - 18:56

Carson Parker

I don't get it.

July 25, 2016 - 18:56

Benjamin Sullivan

OH shite and check em

July 25, 2016 - 18:56

Nathaniel Thomas

Is this a Kee and Peele Skit?

July 25, 2016 - 18:56

Christopher Roberts

I have no idea what any of this means

July 25, 2016 - 18:56

Samuel Nelson

Is this guy like hot shit in New Jersey?

July 25, 2016 - 18:57

Owen Kelly

He saved someone from a burning building.

July 25, 2016 - 18:57

Eli Wright

NO UNITY NO UNITY NO UNITY
NO TRUST NO TRUST NO TRUST

July 25, 2016 - 18:57

Anthony Cruz

NO UNITY NO TRUST

July 25, 2016 - 18:57

Anthony Evans

CURRENT YEAR MAN

July 25, 2016 - 18:58

Christian Gomez

were they shouting that?

July 25, 2016 - 18:58

Jace Turner

Figures.

July 25, 2016 - 18:59

David Bell

WHERE?

July 25, 2016 - 18:59

Jose Ramirez

i thought it was no unity no justice

July 25, 2016 - 18:59

Colton Moore

Guys. The S█████ delegates here are really arguing with officials, this isn't a joke. They're screaming at each other and are also chanting, this is a clusterfuck

July 25, 2016 - 18:59

William Morris

But will they riot?

July 25, 2016 - 18:59

Elijah Allen

I couldn't hear it?

July 25, 2016 - 18:59

Brayden Ramirez

Record EVERYTHING. Livestream if needed.

July 25, 2016 - 19:00

Grayson Jackson

Most invigorating night of my life.

July 25, 2016 - 19:00

Jackson Cruz

Fuck yeah, if true.

July 25, 2016 - 19:00

Lincoln Thompson

they showed a clip during their trump video

July 25, 2016 - 19:00

Isaiah Price

They put their lives on the line with the goal of getting a few gimmedats. It's lulzy.

July 25, 2016 - 19:00

David Harris

Can we have a riot bigger than the 1968 Riots?

July 25, 2016 - 19:00

Caleb Baker

Post your waifu.

July 25, 2016 - 19:01

Connor Brooks

GULAG

July 25, 2016 - 19:01

Aaron Bell

3 MORE DAYS OF THIS

July 25, 2016 - 19:01

Matthew Wood

I'll stop watching after B████ gives his last stand.

July 25, 2016 - 19:03

Robert Baker

not this fucking niggress

July 25, 2016 - 19:03

Grayson Ward

Oh hell no.

July 25, 2016 - 19:03

Asher Kelly

...

July 25, 2016 - 19:03

Juan Foster

This fucking music video is aids

July 25, 2016 - 19:03

Daniel Price

fuck

GOTTA GET THOSE 18-34 YEAROLDS

July 25, 2016 - 19:04

Eli Bailey

hwat

July 25, 2016 - 19:05

Christian Peterson

as far as first ladies go Michelle Obama is so unremarkable.
The only thing she really did that was notable is trigger republicans in 2008 when they thought she was a black nationalist or something

July 25, 2016 - 19:05

Liam Cooper

From the livestream it sounds like people are pissed & yelling in the background

July 25, 2016 - 19:05

Joseph Thompson

nvm, google says other wise

July 25, 2016 - 19:05

Leo Ward

Just how hard will Hillary disarm us? They're taking away our bernout signs for god sakes

July 25, 2016 - 19:05

Jason Jenkins

THERE IS NO HOPE
youtube.com/watch?v=oNsC_JizZpM

July 25, 2016 - 19:06

Xavier James

That was what Van Jones was for anyone remember him?

July 25, 2016 - 19:06

John James

But she taught kids not to be fat fucks. A job that parents should be doing anyways

July 25, 2016 - 19:06

Adam Kelly

god remember that whole Saul Alenski thing? Good times, good times.

July 25, 2016 - 19:06

Adam Ortiz

Doesn't Van Jones work for CNN right now?

July 25, 2016 - 19:07

Ian Davis

A daily reminder that Hill Dog became Saul's lapdog.

July 25, 2016 - 19:07

Cooper Barnes

Kids became fatter.

I think he does, I don't watch CNN, but I have seen him a few time when there is a TV with CNN on with Van Jones.

July 25, 2016 - 19:08

Dylan Perry

muh Children
look at how precious muh children are

July 25, 2016 - 19:08

Zachary Barnes

...

July 25, 2016 - 19:08

Camden Taylor

yeah he got in a fight with some right winger who said the democrats were responsible for and where the current party of the KKK

July 25, 2016 - 19:08

Christopher King

Go on periscope to see the floor fights

July 25, 2016 - 19:09

Ayden Long

Was it Alex Jones?
Also he was Obama's Green Jobs Czar.

July 25, 2016 - 19:09

Xavier Diaz

...

July 25, 2016 - 19:09

Juan Smith

Do you think Melania is taking notes on this speech?

July 25, 2016 - 19:10

Jacob Hughes

...

July 25, 2016 - 19:10

John Carter

With O'real it is.

July 25, 2016 - 19:10

Ryder Reyes

Some old white guy. The daily show did a thing on it. Look up KKk van jones or something

July 25, 2016 - 19:10

Bentley Fisher

youtube.com/watch?v=XncuY4wLaA8

July 25, 2016 - 19:10

Joseph Martin

vox.com/2016/7/25/12279822/democratic-national-convention-boo-cummings-fudge-platform

I know it's Vox, but seriously….

July 25, 2016 - 19:11

Dominic Sanders

already posted

July 25, 2016 - 19:11

Adam Garcia

...

July 25, 2016 - 19:11

Logan Russell

Casual observation not worth of its own thread: how come everyone who writes "nerd" on their Twitter bios and love sci-fi/superhero/YA shit is 99% of the times a staunch Hillary supporter

July 25, 2016 - 19:12

Ayden Taylor

She wouldn't even carry a Tokerav tbh.

July 25, 2016 - 19:12

Christian Walker

...

July 25, 2016 - 19:12

Robert Davis

Because that'll get 'em on board.

I swear, hillbots are fucking retarded. If it's not "bathing in B████bro tears" it's calling them sexist and racist.

July 25, 2016 - 19:12

Mason Jones

Because you're lonely ;-;

July 25, 2016 - 19:12

Thomas Russell

...

July 25, 2016 - 19:13

Hunter Scott

so much revisionism here I feel like i'm back in my French Revolution class

July 25, 2016 - 19:13

Austin Parker

They're bourgie normies

July 25, 2016 - 19:13

Nicholas Gray

But there's not an answer there

July 25, 2016 - 19:13

Samuel Clark

strawpoll.me/10835153

July 25, 2016 - 19:14

Christopher Morales

Because "nerd" these days means someone who is a hardcore consumerist liberal faggot.

July 25, 2016 - 19:14

Joshua Scott

WOW THIS IS TOUGH

July 25, 2016 - 19:14

Julian Jackson

There's also no question mark.

July 25, 2016 - 19:14

Cameron Stewart

suicide a best suicide

July 25, 2016 - 19:14

Brody Diaz

you're right there isn't

July 25, 2016 - 19:15

Christopher Hall

anyone got a link to the periscopes of delegate fights?

July 25, 2016 - 19:15

Henry Diaz

Except B████ voters, fuck them.

July 25, 2016 - 19:15

Isaiah Ramirez

Shill4Hill

July 25, 2016 - 19:15

Jace Garcia

What are we then?

July 25, 2016 - 19:15

Christian Sanchez

...

July 25, 2016 - 19:16

Leo James

you think you're slick with that kind of talk, don't you?

July 25, 2016 - 19:16

Brandon Sanchez

The Alt Left.

July 25, 2016 - 19:16

Nathaniel Morales

I'm with >"her"

July 25, 2016 - 19:16

Jacob Johnson

They're both suicide, so I abstain.

July 25, 2016 - 19:16

Wyatt Walker

Autistic.

I'm not joking, "nerdy" has been replaced with "autistic" now that "nerd culture" is fashionable.

July 25, 2016 - 19:16

Colton Long

shut your fucking mouth, even as a joke

July 25, 2016 - 19:17

Jack Ross

Jill Stein? Me too.

July 25, 2016 - 19:17

Jace Gonzalez

Chris Chan was ahead of his time

July 25, 2016 - 19:17

Justin Foster

Geez comrade.

July 25, 2016 - 19:17

Kevin Garcia

lads, im getting legit worried about B████'s speech

July 25, 2016 - 19:17

Samuel Rodriguez

Spooooooooky

July 25, 2016 - 19:17

Christian Ward

Good lord at least Michelle Obama knows how to speak and act like a relatable person. Shillary should take notes.

July 25, 2016 - 19:17

Isaiah Williams

The "hard" left

July 25, 2016 - 19:17

Nathaniel Reyes

...

July 25, 2016 - 19:18

Matthew Walker

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/5149

Well they will continue to stick to the rhetoric.

July 25, 2016 - 19:18

Carter Lee

Which one, the first one or the 2nd one?

July 25, 2016 - 19:18

Anthony Rodriguez

there's that phrase again

maybe try breaking the glass ceiling that exists for actual underprivileged people sometime, it's made out of really fuckin' strong glass

fuck oooooooooooooooooooooooooff

July 25, 2016 - 19:18

Gabriel Harris

this, but unironically.
I can at least believe Michelle cares about her Children

July 25, 2016 - 19:18

Noah Jones

I cant wait for Warren's boos

July 25, 2016 - 19:19

Landon Watson

FTFY

July 25, 2016 - 19:19

Asher Russell

What if I'm actually autistic, but I tried to play as a nerd to TRY TO get laid.
ARE YOU TRYING TO OPRESS ME AGAIN

July 25, 2016 - 19:19

Michael Torres

Yes. I can believe the Obamas as a loving, functional, healthy family. The Clintons can't pull off such a feat, no matter how hard they try.

July 25, 2016 - 19:20

Aiden Price

Fuck I'd smoke weed with Michelle tbh

July 25, 2016 - 19:20

Xavier Wood

I thought slaves were mostly used for agriculture practices in the south.

July 25, 2016 - 19:20

Evan Nelson

It will be great

Does she speak tonight?

July 25, 2016 - 19:20

Jeremiah Garcia

No, but the bougie normies are. What, you thought they actually cared about us?

July 25, 2016 - 19:20

Ryder Lee

What timezone is this DNC in?

July 25, 2016 - 19:20

Cameron Green

...

July 25, 2016 - 19:20

Tyler Jenkins

EST

July 25, 2016 - 19:20

Evan Turner

She will talk herself out of booing. Somehow.

Even if she said "Fuck B████". She would manage to say something after that would enable her to recover

July 25, 2016 - 19:20

Isaiah Stewart

GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD

Ah ahahaha

July 25, 2016 - 19:20

Aaron Howard

after Kennedy, whose next

July 25, 2016 - 19:21

Ryder Phillips

Michelle got treated better by the crowd due to the fact she was no real public power outside some influence over her husband.

July 25, 2016 - 19:21

William Sanders

I expect Riots.

July 25, 2016 - 19:21

Cameron Thompson

Didnt someone say burnie was supposed to be on a 10

July 25, 2016 - 19:21

Aiden Kelly

I'd hold hands with her.

She is pretty attractive tbh. Too bad she's also a liar.

July 25, 2016 - 19:21

Lincoln Powell

Yeah and "nerds" today are all about constantly bringing attention to the sexism of nerd culture and nerd communities because they think this will get them laid

July 25, 2016 - 19:21

Jaxson Murphy

Oh for fucks sake, they're stalling.

July 25, 2016 - 19:22

Brandon Fisher

see

July 25, 2016 - 19:22

Dylan Rivera

WHERE'S B████?

July 25, 2016 - 19:22

Hunter Taylor

Life Support

July 25, 2016 - 19:22

Thomas Morris

Yes. But another one posted the lineup and so far it's accurate. Theres two people before S█████ now.

Here in case you're wondering:

July 25, 2016 - 19:23

Owen Bell

a fucking KENNEDY

July 25, 2016 - 19:23

Ethan Adams

Slaves were used for every purpose but since the south had very little industry and few big cities they're mostly associated with cotton farms.

July 25, 2016 - 19:23

Robert Myers

fucking kennedy

July 25, 2016 - 19:23

Parker Barnes

Thought those died out years ago

July 25, 2016 - 19:23

Samuel Nguyen

10pm or 11pm

July 25, 2016 - 19:23

Julian Mitchell

They're gonna ride those JFK coattails for the next 100 years

July 25, 2016 - 19:24

Christian Russell

They swapped B████ for Warren

July 25, 2016 - 19:24

Tyler Robinson

Why don't we ever see Roosevelts?

July 25, 2016 - 19:24

Kevin Jones

Like cockroaches, the find a way to cheat death.

July 25, 2016 - 19:24

Owen Hill

Thanks for the info comrades

July 25, 2016 - 19:24

Julian Baker

WEW LADS

July 25, 2016 - 19:24

Owen Thomas

...

July 25, 2016 - 19:25

Nathan Davis

REV UP THOSE GUILLOTINES

July 25, 2016 - 19:25

Oliver Allen

I'm pretty sure the White House would be built by skilled masons, rather than slaves

July 25, 2016 - 19:25

Ian Evans

Kennedy's cousin's, half-sister's, bastard's, nephew's, adopted son

July 25, 2016 - 19:25

Grayson Clark

THANKS B████ BUT FUCK YOU

July 25, 2016 - 19:25

Dominic Turner

DID WARREN NAZI SALUTE?

July 25, 2016 - 19:25

Julian Butler

...

July 25, 2016 - 19:25

Hudson Ramirez

We still have B████ coming up

July 25, 2016 - 19:25

Cooper Edwards

the snake herself

July 25, 2016 - 19:25

Jayden Lee

Oh my god, they are booing her like crazy

July 25, 2016 - 19:25

Mason Gomez

holy shit the cheers sound canned now

July 25, 2016 - 19:26

Robert Allen

Then why'd you cuck out for Hill Dog.

July 25, 2016 - 19:26

Christopher Kelly

how can dem voters look in this stupid's cunt face and lap up her lies.

July 25, 2016 - 19:26

Jeremiah Reyes

so why don't you go eat a dick user

July 25, 2016 - 19:26

Dylan Lee

...

July 25, 2016 - 19:26

Carson Fisher

WE TRUST THE JEW

July 25, 2016 - 19:27

Brody Gonzalez

Whoever started that, +1 meowmeowbeanz

July 25, 2016 - 19:27

Connor Fisher

You were
JUST
TALKING
WITH
A
KENNEDY

July 25, 2016 - 19:27

Zachary Hernandez

we trusted you

July 25, 2016 - 19:27

Easton Young

But money and power makes us forget it all

July 25, 2016 - 19:27

Jaxson White

How'd Holla Forums get in there?

July 25, 2016 - 19:27

Evan Williams

kek

July 25, 2016 - 19:27

Jacob Cruz

WE TRUSTED YOU
WE TRUSTED YOU
WE TRUSTED YOU
WE TRUSTED YOU
WE TRUSTED YOU
WE TRUSTED YOU
WE TRUSTED YOU
WE TRUSTED YOU
WE TRUSTED YOU
WE TRUSTED YOU

July 25, 2016 - 19:28

Noah Wilson

WE TRUSTED YOU CHANT

Oh my fucking god

July 25, 2016 - 19:28

Easton Jones

Calm down asshole

July 25, 2016 - 19:28

Ryan Wright

After I read that post I couldn't unhear it tbh.

July 25, 2016 - 19:28

Ryder Martin

Anyone make out what they were just chanting during the sellout's speech?

July 25, 2016 - 19:28

Cooper Rivera

Didn't John have great dick game?

July 25, 2016 - 19:28

David Martin

youtube.com/watch?v=TSYV-nEE300

July 25, 2016 - 19:28

Blake Stewart

we trusted you

July 25, 2016 - 19:28

Samuel Edwards

We trusted you

July 25, 2016 - 19:29

Joshua Parker

according to some of his ex-lovers JFK was a selfish lover
On the other hand, Monica Lewinsky says that Bill knows how to treat a lady

July 25, 2016 - 19:29

Thomas Clark

hold me, im scared about B████

July 25, 2016 - 19:29

Blake Edwards

the system is rigged lol

July 25, 2016 - 19:29

Christopher Walker

It's time to join a Socialist party, user.

July 25, 2016 - 19:29

Brody Thomas

holy shit. this bitch.

July 25, 2016 - 19:30

Nicholas Wright

LIKE

THE FUCKING

CLINTONS

YOU TRAITOR

July 25, 2016 - 19:30

Landon Rodriguez

irony

July 25, 2016 - 19:30

Nolan Hill

They are threatening his wife and kids

July 25, 2016 - 19:30

Adrian Sullivan

REMINDER THAT TRUMP IS JUST DUBYA 2.0

July 25, 2016 - 19:30

Brody Watson

periscope.tv/w/1DXxyllrQDbJM

THEY ARE SHUTTING DOWN STREAMS
THEY ARE NOT ALLOWING B████ DELEGATES ON THE FLOOR

GET READY

July 25, 2016 - 19:30

Ayden Ward

...

July 25, 2016 - 19:30

Caleb Long

lmao, "We Trusted You"? Really? Those Bernouts are fucking butthurt as fuck.

July 25, 2016 - 19:30

Noah Brooks

WELLLLLLL NOW

July 25, 2016 - 19:30

Easton Adams

...

July 25, 2016 - 19:30

Hunter Wood

...

July 25, 2016 - 19:31

Evan Reed

They are escorting B████ supporters who are chanting out of the bulding. What the fuck

July 25, 2016 - 19:31

Leo Morales

Thanks for the stream, user!!

July 25, 2016 - 19:31

Michael Brown

proofs?

July 25, 2016 - 19:31

Camden Bennett

I was actually checking twitter to see any evidence of this.

What killed the chants?

July 25, 2016 - 19:31

Nathaniel Morales

RIP

July 25, 2016 - 19:32

Jonathan Reyes

Guys I found a picture of the DNC and B████ discussing B████'s speech

July 25, 2016 - 19:32

Ian Evans

Good. I'd rather not hear that bullshit from butthurt California limousine socialists crying about sellouts.

July 25, 2016 - 19:33

Easton Hill

...

July 25, 2016 - 19:33

Brayden Powell

Hi there fellow leftist. Do you also hate those B████bros for not being proletarian enough?

July 25, 2016 - 19:33

Jeremiah Brown

First Elizabeth Warren sells out to Clinton now she steals Holla Forums memes

July 25, 2016 - 19:33

Logan Anderson

We trusted you
We trusted you

July 25, 2016 - 19:33

Wyatt Jenkins

...

July 25, 2016 - 19:34

Nicholas Price

...

July 25, 2016 - 19:34

Josiah Williams

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

July 25, 2016 - 19:35

Zachary Anderson

Those boos though

July 25, 2016 - 19:35

Jordan Miller

Fuck off, nigger. I just want Shitllary to win the election and then have Warren and S█████ and all the other real progressives fuck her over later, rather than let that orange fascist have a shot. I don't get why entitled California shitheads can't seem to grasp that and instead have to throw a fucking tantrum.

July 25, 2016 - 19:35

Noah Gomez

Haven't you already been paid? You know you can take a break, right? You're pouring salt into the wound

July 25, 2016 - 19:36

Cameron Walker

rekt

July 25, 2016 - 19:36

Jayden Young

But Hillary's a woman user :^)

July 25, 2016 - 19:36

Easton Ward

How can you control the volume, etc, on periscope? I'm on a computer btw

July 25, 2016 - 19:37

Evan Carter

Welcome to Web 2.0

July 25, 2016 - 19:38

Aaron Foster

Hillary only gets paid 75 cents to every dollar compared to males on capital hill.

So she only makes like $45,000,000 a year.

July 25, 2016 - 19:38

Joseph Gutierrez

...

July 25, 2016 - 19:38

Aiden Gray

you get it! Trump's hat is goofy! Look at how hip and funny i am!

July 25, 2016 - 19:38

Oliver Thomas

Protesting is throwing a tantrum, apparently

July 25, 2016 - 19:38

Cameron Morris

I only tuned in half way..

Did they spend the early speeches on courting S█████ supporters or has it been about Trump all the way through?

July 25, 2016 - 19:39

Carson Allen

MASK SLIPS MASK SLIPS MASK SLIPS MASK SLIPS

July 25, 2016 - 19:39

Xavier Butler

Trump shouldn't be president. Clinton shouldn't be president.

July 25, 2016 - 19:39

Cooper Hughes

Well I got banned from the stream calling Warren a Class Traitor. Good times.

July 25, 2016 - 19:39

Ryder Nguyen

...

July 25, 2016 - 19:39

Jack Allen

pretty much shitting on trump the whole time with slight digs at S█████ supporters

July 25, 2016 - 19:39

Samuel Scott

...

July 25, 2016 - 19:40

Zachary Rodriguez

does anyone have the Zizek edit?

July 25, 2016 - 19:40

Isaiah King

Well no shit Sherlock.

July 25, 2016 - 19:40

Nathaniel Hill

What about this year?

July 25, 2016 - 19:40

Benjamin Ross

She needs to stop saying the word 'rigged' before B████'s speech.

July 25, 2016 - 19:41

Austin Reyes

Fuck off. I left Holla Forums to get away from people who whine and accuse others of being shills whenever they disagree with you. Stop being a dumb shit.

I could've sworn I saw some motherfuckers doing that Indian war whoop thing in the crowd. Real good fucking "protest" you got there.

July 25, 2016 - 19:41

Lucas Sanchez

15 dollars a hour is still below poverty line btw

July 25, 2016 - 19:42

Joshua Harris

My rough estimation, multiply that by 4.

Classic american political device: When in doubt, mention MLK.

July 25, 2016 - 19:42

Michael Flores

twitter.com/Green_Footballs/status/757675076216983552

July 25, 2016 - 19:42

Leo Hughes

class traitor is just jacking FDR's second bill of rights

July 25, 2016 - 19:42

Matthew Edwards

...

July 25, 2016 - 19:42

Logan Rogers

CURRENT YEAR
U
R
R
E
N
T

Y
E
A
R

July 25, 2016 - 19:43

Carter Gutierrez

Holy shit, I just noticed this
twitter.com/Green_Footballs/status/757675076216983552

July 25, 2016 - 19:43

Eli Kelly

IN
TWENTY
SIXTEEN

July 25, 2016 - 19:43

David Lee

CURRENT YEAR

July 25, 2016 - 19:43

Jace Mitchell

I told you.

July 25, 2016 - 19:43

Asher Sanders

Oh

July 25, 2016 - 19:44

Samuel Martinez

...

July 25, 2016 - 19:44

Brayden Rogers

lmao

July 25, 2016 - 19:45

Xavier Lee

HOLY SHITE CALIFORNIA DELEGATION IS PISSED

July 25, 2016 - 19:45

Liam Kelly

quit shilling and maybe we'll quit calling you one, fucking traitor

July 25, 2016 - 19:45

Logan Rivera

Hahahaha

July 25, 2016 - 19:45

Jaxson Morgan

She's trollin'

July 25, 2016 - 19:45

Lincoln King

Fuck it, I'm going to bed triggered and Berned out.

July 25, 2016 - 19:45

Gavin Ortiz

Wasnt california meme'd during the primaries?

July 25, 2016 - 19:46

Evan Brooks

What are you even talking about?

July 25, 2016 - 19:46

William Wood

HOW YOU DOING DEMOCRATS
this isn't a rock concert Keith

July 25, 2016 - 19:46

Charles Wood

...

July 25, 2016 - 19:46

Jack Young

they're clearing the floor of delegates

July 25, 2016 - 19:47

Angel Cruz

Yeah because that would make people receptive to the left.

July 25, 2016 - 19:47

Chase Young

Can Kerensky control the newly formed Bolsheviks? Or will he find himself like the Tsar before him?

July 25, 2016 - 19:47

Joseph Hill

...

July 25, 2016 - 19:47

Juan Flores

bernie after keith

July 25, 2016 - 19:47

Tyler Davis

Bernie's up next, lad

July 25, 2016 - 19:47

Michael Rivera

You seem really upset user. If you get this easily sensitive as a shill, you probably should have stayed in Holla Forums

July 25, 2016 - 19:48

Nolan Rivera

Will endorsing Hillary?

July 25, 2016 - 19:48

Hunter Young

grabbed this from leddit's political_revolution discord

July 25, 2016 - 19:48

Daniel Lopez

God this sounds so fake

July 25, 2016 - 19:48

Connor Smith

What are they chanting right now?

No trust no unity?

July 25, 2016 - 19:48

Aaron Ramirez

no. NO!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

July 25, 2016 - 19:48

Dominic Morris

Apparently A bunch of State delegations are pissed at the Clinton campaign, even states that he didn't win are angry.

July 25, 2016 - 19:49

Robert Diaz

HERES HERE

July 25, 2016 - 19:49

Nathaniel Roberts

HERE WE GO LADS

July 25, 2016 - 19:49

Charles Sullivan

please please please

July 25, 2016 - 19:49

James Kelly

Bernie is going to get booed no matter what he says

July 25, 2016 - 19:49

Mason Hill

It's really something that these people can rig an election and we're the ones who are meant to be acting respectable.

July 25, 2016 - 19:50

Juan Diaz

BARNEY

July 25, 2016 - 19:50

Jonathan Turner

...

July 25, 2016 - 19:50

Nathan Martinez

It don't matter
None of this matters.

July 25, 2016 - 19:50

Jackson Cox

the cheers are way louder on periscope

July 25, 2016 - 19:50

Brandon Thomas

Remember comrades the January revolution was followed by the October revolution.

July 25, 2016 - 19:51

Nathan Sullivan

Sanders gets the best cheer out of all of them

Sanders pls :(

Fuck America for going along with this rigged BS

July 25, 2016 - 19:51

Blake Lewis

LIGHT A BOWL FOR B████
POP A MOLLY FOR B████

July 25, 2016 - 19:51

Nathaniel Sanchez

Can't contain it

July 25, 2016 - 19:51

Brody Lopez

user this isn't true. Without the DNC, how would you know that

July 25, 2016 - 19:51

Jackson Jenkins

-Bernie DNC speech

Holy shit he actually did it

July 25, 2016 - 19:52

Jason Jackson

Sanders got a better ovation that Clinton is going to have lmao

July 25, 2016 - 19:52

Lucas Brooks

Light one up For S█████

July 25, 2016 - 19:52

Josiah Ortiz

America was never date

July 25, 2016 - 19:53

William Moore

How can he throw this away by endorsing Hillary?

Side with your movement, not the nominee.

July 25, 2016 - 19:53

Jayden Martinez

Holy shit

July 25, 2016 - 19:53

Dominic Davis

Look out for the subtle hints in his speech, guys

July 25, 2016 - 19:53

Aaron Barnes

Jesus.

July 25, 2016 - 19:53

Brody Torres

don't toy with me senpai

July 25, 2016 - 19:53

Daniel Cox

...

July 25, 2016 - 19:53

Grayson Baker

*great

July 25, 2016 - 19:53

Ryder Taylor

You guys are delusional. B████ is just going to shill Hillary. The dream is dead

July 25, 2016 - 19:54

Ian Bell

The time is ripe.

July 25, 2016 - 19:54

Gavin Harris

TWENTY SEVEN DOLLARS

July 25, 2016 - 19:54

Chase Hall

Let the shilling begin.

July 25, 2016 - 19:54

Jose Rodriguez

I'm enjoying the hope while I still have it.

July 25, 2016 - 19:55

Nathaniel Clark

This

July 25, 2016 - 19:55

Bentley Morales

Feels bad man

July 25, 2016 - 19:55

Isaiah Brooks

It's done. He won't do it. He's spineless. Started a movement for nothing.

July 25, 2016 - 19:55

Juan Hughes

Who?

July 25, 2016 - 19:55

Matthew Long

youtube.com/watch?v=7oday_Fc-Gc

July 25, 2016 - 19:55

Christopher Thompson

Anyone else feel like he's going off script?

July 25, 2016 - 19:55

Julian Davis

Die of AIDS, user

July 25, 2016 - 19:55

Carter Reyes

ROLL CALLLLLLLL

July 25, 2016 - 19:56

James Murphy

ABSOLUTE MADMAN

July 25, 2016 - 19:56

Daniel Wright

Its torture comrade I know. But [REDACTED] is thinking about more then this election. The beheadings will have to wait until [REDACTED] can install change that will stick

July 25, 2016 - 19:56

Jacob Adams

roll call

July 25, 2016 - 19:56

Bentley Morgan

no survivors

July 25, 2016 - 19:56

Henry Reyes

Yeah, listen to that crowd. They hate him.

Get outta here

July 25, 2016 - 19:56

Lincoln Green

But there will be an actual revolution in a few years, r-right guys?

July 25, 2016 - 19:57

Nathaniel Williams

ROLL CALL

July 25, 2016 - 19:57

Oliver Stewart

HES CALLING THEM OUT ABSOLUTE MADMAN

July 25, 2016 - 19:57

Aiden Anderson

He did it so I was wrong. Also nice dubs.

July 25, 2016 - 19:57

Alexander Ward

WHAT

I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR VOTES TOMORROW NIGHT

HE DID IT WHAT THE FUCK

July 25, 2016 - 19:57

Adrian Bennett

ROLL CALL, BITCHES

July 25, 2016 - 19:57

Jackson Peterson

Here it comes…

July 25, 2016 - 19:57

Jeremiah Wright

if the material conditions say it is so than it is so.
One meal from revolution and all that jazz.

July 25, 2016 - 19:58

Kevin Collins

dont endorse

July 25, 2016 - 19:58

Jose Price

TED CRUZ WAS BEING BOOED AT THIS POINT

July 25, 2016 - 19:58

Asher Peterson

OUR REVOLUTION CONTINUES

July 25, 2016 - 19:58

Lucas Russell

PLACE YOUR BETS

DOES HE ENDORSE? OR DOES HE REFUSE?

July 25, 2016 - 19:59

Adrian Butler

THE STRUGGLE OF THE PEOPLE
is it happening boys?

July 25, 2016 - 19:59

Jose Butler

He actually said: I look forward to your votes tomorrow

mad fucking man

July 25, 2016 - 19:59

Juan Davis

BASED B████

July 25, 2016 - 19:59

Samuel Richardson

He endorses, and it breaks my heart.

July 25, 2016 - 19:59

Jackson Watson

Holy shit he sounds like a genuine socialist right now.

July 25, 2016 - 19:59

Mason Ortiz

SPOILERS
berniesanders.com/sanders-prepared-remarks-at-democratic-national-convention/

July 25, 2016 - 20:00

Robert Carter

He would't of said to keep his delegates.

July 25, 2016 - 20:00

Xavier Nelson

Using dog whistles, yes.

July 25, 2016 - 20:00

Josiah Smith

Y-YOU CAN'T DO THIS B████. I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE QUEEN

July 25, 2016 - 20:00

Kayden Sanchez

SLICK

July 25, 2016 - 20:00

Asher Mitchell

Bernie is making history, guys

July 25, 2016 - 20:00

Landon Lewis

LAWD HAVE MERCY

July 25, 2016 - 20:00

Josiah Walker

He endorses and I get sad

and then mad

July 25, 2016 - 20:00

Cooper Foster

It should be

Think strategically user

July 25, 2016 - 20:00

Blake Lewis

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

July 25, 2016 - 20:01

John Davis

Oh
Oh
Well, they need to riot.

July 25, 2016 - 20:01

Elijah Campbell

I want to die, fam.

July 25, 2016 - 20:01

Adam Edwards

WE NEED YOU B████
- a shout from the crowd

July 25, 2016 - 20:01

Dominic Carter

yall niggas delisional af =^/

July 25, 2016 - 20:01

Gavin Wilson

berniesanders.com/sanders-prepared-remarks-at-democratic-national-convention/

here's the full speech

literally held at gunpoint

July 25, 2016 - 20:01

Adrian Miller

not watching stream, what's going on?

July 25, 2016 - 20:02

Dylan Williams

I'm a right winger but I would absolutely vote for this man.

July 25, 2016 - 20:02

Andrew Cook

Berine is on is about to shill hard.

July 25, 2016 - 20:02

Gabriel Roberts

TIME TO JOIN THOSE RADICAL PARTY ANONS.

July 25, 2016 - 20:02

Daniel Torres

...

July 25, 2016 - 20:02

Jayden Morris

told you comrades
the revolution betrayed

youtube.com/watch?v=WOL-kbzwGYM

July 25, 2016 - 20:02

Logan Rogers

Bernie said he's taking it to a roll call vote, "No one more disappointed than me" regarding DNC leaks/etc

July 25, 2016 - 20:03

Andrew Bennett

The death of democracy in the United States.

July 25, 2016 - 20:03

Joseph Price

Listen to how quiet everyone is listening to him

July 25, 2016 - 20:03

Chase Hughes

You're not a right winger then.

July 25, 2016 - 20:03

Xavier Nelson

He literally asked for people to vote for him tomorrow

also see

July 25, 2016 - 20:03

Julian Williams

Bernie will kiss the ring.

July 25, 2016 - 20:03

Asher Turner

He's pulled a Ted Cruz, but difference is he's not being booed

July 25, 2016 - 20:04

Jordan Cruz

I can't do it, comrades. I can't listen to this happen.

July 25, 2016 - 20:04

Jace Jenkins

HERE IT COMES IM SCARED

July 25, 2016 - 20:04

Christopher Clark

Did he?

July 25, 2016 - 20:04

Brandon Edwards

berniesanders.com/sanders-prepared-remarks-at-democratic-national-convention/

No he won't. Read the end of the speech.

July 25, 2016 - 20:04

Dominic Walker

You mean like telling people Shitlery is the only choice to save us from the other side?

July 25, 2016 - 20:04

Jayden Collins

He's going off script because the Democrats have to approve of the prepared speech in order for him to give it. So he sneaks in those remarks when he can

July 25, 2016 - 20:04

Joshua Wilson

We want you B████, do you not hear the people

July 25, 2016 - 20:05

Austin Gonzalez

Wow is B████ actually managing to rally dems under clinton? Is this man a genie? Its shakey but it seems to be working

July 25, 2016 - 20:05

Connor Sanchez

Hold me, I'm scared

July 25, 2016 - 20:05

Nathaniel Gonzalez

communist feels

July 25, 2016 - 20:05

Dylan Young

fuck

July 25, 2016 - 20:05

Easton Rogers

lol

July 25, 2016 - 20:05

Ethan Cox

why do you keep blocking his name

July 25, 2016 - 20:05

Oliver Gutierrez

he hasn't even mentioned her yet

shills get out

July 25, 2016 - 20:05

Lucas Brown

FUCKING SHEEPDOG

July 25, 2016 - 20:06

Julian Jackson

He's gone off the speech multiple times and asked for people to vote him

July 25, 2016 - 20:06

James Evans

No they're booing they just moved the pics

July 25, 2016 - 20:06

Nathan Diaz

I told you. He is a snake

July 25, 2016 - 20:06

Alexander Brown

Its a word filter its not on purpose.

July 25, 2016 - 20:06

Jacob Gray

...

July 25, 2016 - 20:06

Thomas Jenkins

I'm a social conservative but even if I disagree with the solutions we ought to have politicians with a genuine concern for the poor.

July 25, 2016 - 20:06

Owen Lewis

Top 10 most brutal anime deaths

July 25, 2016 - 20:06

Cooper Cox

not a shill. But if anybody could offer even a shred of dignity to hillary it would be him

July 25, 2016 - 20:06

Luis Turner

top 10 anime betrayals

July 25, 2016 - 20:06

Levi Foster

No B████.. Not Hillary

July 25, 2016 - 20:06

Grayson Russell

oh shit really, when did this happen, I've been gone for a while.

July 25, 2016 - 20:06

Robert Collins

stream

July 25, 2016 - 20:06

Oliver Sanchez

twitch.tv/dnc2016

July 25, 2016 - 20:07

Jordan Murphy

Look.

He endorsed her. He's going to work toward getting her elected. It's over.

July 25, 2016 - 20:07

Jaxson Ward

Is B████ legit autistic? Does he not look at polls?

July 25, 2016 - 20:07

Eli Reed

Not a right winger.
Social conservative and social liberal are synonymous

July 25, 2016 - 20:07

Brayden Martinez

EVEN TED CRUZ HAS MORE PRINCIPLES THAN B████!!

July 25, 2016 - 20:07

Blake Morris

T. S█████

July 25, 2016 - 20:07

Brayden Cooper

Somebody mememify this

July 25, 2016 - 20:08

Asher Harris

Polls have become irrelevant in the US.

July 25, 2016 - 20:08

Adam Martin

From what I seen a while now.

July 25, 2016 - 20:08

Joseph Collins

Lmao, S█████ getting booed for Talking about Hillary. Good.

I love you S█████, but NO

July 25, 2016 - 20:08

Nicholas Peterson

SPINELESS B████
SPINELESS VOTERS
THE DREAM IS DEAD

July 25, 2016 - 20:08

Samuel Perry

Bernie skipped the sentence "The choice is not even close.". Mere accident or a sign?

>By these measures, any objective observer will conclude that – based on her ideas and her leadership – Hillary Clinton must become the next president of the United States. The choice is not even close.

July 25, 2016 - 20:08

Ryan Foster

...

July 25, 2016 - 20:08

Lincoln Lewis

As in we really have no better choice. I'm gonna try my best not dying at the hands of the rich

July 25, 2016 - 20:09

Camden Parker

REEEEEEEEEEEE
CLASS TRAITORS DESERVE NO SYMPATHY
MARXISM STEINISM NOW

July 25, 2016 - 20:09

Nathan Parker

He didn't skip it, what are you on about?

July 25, 2016 - 20:09

Leo Wood

oosh, thats gotta hurt,

July 25, 2016 - 20:09

Jordan Parker

why is one blocked but not the other.

July 25, 2016 - 20:09

Lucas Martin

He's not a snake, he has so much pressure on him and he already worked out a platform deal. There is nothing he can do without losing what he strong-armed for

He put in a dime into the slot machine and won a half a million dollars. You're asking him to put all the money back into the machine just to lose it all

July 25, 2016 - 20:09

Ayden Campbell

I just don't understand how S█████ can talk about people buying elections when it JUST fucking happened to him.

He's so spineless. I feel sick.

July 25, 2016 - 20:10

Jonathan Mitchell

...

July 25, 2016 - 20:10

Nathan Flores

There was a long pause from applause. It was a stylistic choice. It would have been a bit confusing if he said it.

July 25, 2016 - 20:10

Benjamin Brooks

JUST FUCKING END IT

July 25, 2016 - 20:10

Michael Baker

Bernie.

Sanders.

B████ ██████.

July 25, 2016 - 20:10

Parker Murphy

No. B████'s doing what's politically expedient for him here, just as Cruz did at the Republican convention. Cruz just wants to be president. His family says God destined him for it. If you know that, you know everything there is to know about Ted Cruz, like how you learn the bourgeoisie wants to make money and protect itself, you know everything about the world, politics, foreign policy, and economics.

July 25, 2016 - 20:10

Benjamin Bailey

Right now, tumblr, facebook, and twitter is filled with utter vitriol toward B████ supporters because they won't support Hillary.

I am … amused.

July 25, 2016 - 20:10

Nathan Bailey

...

July 25, 2016 - 20:10

Gabriel Mitchell

It's only a reaction image brah

July 25, 2016 - 20:10

Grayson Adams

...

July 25, 2016 - 20:10

Colton Perez

...

July 25, 2016 - 20:11

Levi Jones

Exactly. Fucking children. B████s been working towards helping the prol since his career started as a politician. And people are fucking buttmad he couldn't take it down single handedly in the span of a short election cycle.

July 25, 2016 - 20:11

Gabriel Stewart

...

July 25, 2016 - 20:11

William Morgan

I wanted the betrayals

July 25, 2016 - 20:11

Joshua James

Summary of today

Hillary = good ;D
Trump = poopy >=^[

July 25, 2016 - 20:11

Jace Morales

No, people are buttmad he's kissing the ring after the establishment fucked him in the ass

July 25, 2016 - 20:12

Kevin Mitchell

B████ ██████ just gave Trump the election.

July 25, 2016 - 20:12

Evan Lewis

He betrayed his own platform and bent the knee. He doesn't deserve any sympathy.

July 25, 2016 - 20:12

Jack Butler

I didn't hear it. Maybe he said it. I was too busy being disappointed, I guess.

July 25, 2016 - 20:12

Adrian Perez

This. I want to puke.

July 25, 2016 - 20:12

Zachary Cox

BERNIE GOT CUCKED

July 25, 2016 - 20:12

Jacob Hughes

Wer hat uns verraten? Die Sozialdemokraten!

July 25, 2016 - 20:12

Cooper Mitchell

He lasted so long without instructing people to vote for Hillary, and he wasn't booed. The reception was overwhelming.

Honestly disappointing that he endorsed at all.

July 25, 2016 - 20:12

Owen Richardson

He should be pushing for the Greens. They might not win but he could help them get over 5% and have a much better chance next cycle with funding. Hell he might even get them into the debate and with the DNC leaks he has the perfect reason to do it. Instead he just pushes someone completely opposed to everything he wants.

July 25, 2016 - 20:13

Levi Davis

Hes taking the BHC (big hillary cock)

July 25, 2016 - 20:13

Carson Hernandez

all those tears

July 25, 2016 - 20:13

Robert Harris

reee the periscope died

July 25, 2016 - 20:13

Isaac Ross

I didn't hear it either

July 25, 2016 - 20:13

Xavier Campbell

well it's half right

July 25, 2016 - 20:13

Christopher Allen

KILL YOURSELF ASAP

July 25, 2016 - 20:13

Dominic Powell

youtube stream still works for me

July 25, 2016 - 20:13

Jason Smith

You think this is about honor? Porkie doesn't give a fuck about your honor. They are so calcified in their rule that they most likely want B████ to invalidate the left movement with stunts like that.

July 25, 2016 - 20:14

Henry Hill

better?

July 25, 2016 - 20:14

Lincoln Myers

Niemand sollte Sozialdemokrat vertrauen.

July 25, 2016 - 20:14

Aaron Bennett

He didn't say it

July 25, 2016 - 20:14

Camden Edwards

He doesn't have to glorious uprising and literally drop the mic, but he doesn't have to make all these bullshit promises HRC will never keep

July 25, 2016 - 20:14

Ayden Smith

Rip B████. You put up a good fight. The fire has started. The seeds of radicalism has been planted in our youth today. You will be remembered as a traitor to many, but I personally believe you are a matyr. A matyr who threw you dignity and your values under the bus for what you believed to the best for the proles.

July 25, 2016 - 20:14

Jace Evans

Fuck mainstream democrats, this was the election where, for a short period of time, I didn't feel so lonely.

July 25, 2016 - 20:14

Cameron Hall

...

July 25, 2016 - 20:15

Matthew Morales

Not me, Us

July 25, 2016 - 20:15

Cooper Edwards

The Greens are hippies and if you thought Obama had a hard time getting anything passed imagine a president with zero party support in the establishment.

I'm not supporting her.

July 25, 2016 - 20:15

Xavier Hernandez

Dude stop, holy shit. You are embarrassing yourself really, really badly.

July 25, 2016 - 20:15

Brayden Scott

Very good

July 25, 2016 - 20:16

Mason Baker

Greens are class conscious at least.

July 25, 2016 - 20:16

Nolan Turner

Get a new reaction image you fuck

July 25, 2016 - 20:16

Jaxon Morgan

This stupid meme hasn't been accurate since Nader ran.

July 25, 2016 - 20:16

Gavin Evans

You're the embarrassing one. That was a thoughtful post. Fuck off.

July 25, 2016 - 20:16

Brandon White

they're statecucks

July 25, 2016 - 20:16

Ian Rivera

Bernouts BTFO

Based Hillary is going to win the election and finally us Mexicans will be the majority.

July 25, 2016 - 20:16

Joshua Lopez

off-guardian.org/2016/07/22/koch-brothers-now-supporting-hillary-clinton/

smh

July 25, 2016 - 20:17

Alexander Miller

...

July 25, 2016 - 20:17

Tyler Lopez

Give it to me straight lads. Whats the roll call thing tomorrow

July 25, 2016 - 20:17

Ayden Williams

Now I know how Ron Paul supporters feel

July 25, 2016 - 20:17

Jack Peterson

fuck you, I saved it earlier so it was close by.

July 25, 2016 - 20:17

Jaxson Ward

Doesnt make it any less embarrassing, you stupid fucker.

July 25, 2016 - 20:17

Carson Smith

...

July 25, 2016 - 20:17

Mason Torres

Holy shit this is great

I'm not even going to vote for Hillary and this is right. His politics was entryism, and he managed to get his beliefs onto the platform. The ones who are saying that he's spineless are trustfund babies. He's not spineless, he's selfless and got as far as he could without losing it all.

July 25, 2016 - 20:17

Christian Nelson

Still better than democrats.

July 25, 2016 - 20:17

Jonathan Gray

hondurez coup/10

July 25, 2016 - 20:18

Thomas Thomas

from your mouth to god's ears my dear user

July 25, 2016 - 20:18

Jacob Cook

I am done with this. I think I am voting for Trump if I don't get all that money B████ is running off with. It is apparent that he took the money and ran.

July 25, 2016 - 20:18

Joshua Smith

...

July 25, 2016 - 20:18

Austin Cooper

...

July 25, 2016 - 20:18

Justin Cooper

Spic Holla Forums here. I came to laugh at you. So are you lads tired of being tricked yet? Feel the burn putos?

July 25, 2016 - 20:18

Aiden Thomas

A state is a state, a cuck is a cuck.

July 25, 2016 - 20:18

Gavin Mitchell

Go back to Holla Forums

July 25, 2016 - 20:18

Eli Johnson

pls pol. stahp.

July 25, 2016 - 20:18

Angel Smith

The new anti-capitalist plank very explicitly says the problem with Soviet socialism was the state.

July 25, 2016 - 20:18

Levi Cooper

Holla Forums pls

July 25, 2016 - 20:18

Isaac Myers

I wouldn't be saying it if the leaks hadn't happened but with them he has cause to push harder.

July 25, 2016 - 20:18

Oliver Russell

It's a little ceremony where the delegates get to pretend that we live in a democracy.

You know, like elections in North Korea.

July 25, 2016 - 20:19

Sebastian Hernandez

how so

July 25, 2016 - 20:19

Caleb Mitchell

I'm not him. :^)

And it was only embarrassing to you.

July 25, 2016 - 20:19

Ryan Jackson

Fuck off Trumpcuck
>>>Holla Forums

July 25, 2016 - 20:19

Charles Jones

Nice try jew

July 25, 2016 - 20:19

Logan Hughes

Holla Forumstard

July 25, 2016 - 20:19

Tyler Diaz

who did he vote for???

July 25, 2016 - 20:19

Austin Russell

You can fuck off to >>>/liberalpol/

July 25, 2016 - 20:20

Matthew Gomez

Its like chalkboard scratching in my ears to see him propping up hill. But this is politics. This is how the ruling class works. B████ is infiltrating.

The meme is over exaggerated but they are goofs dude. They supported anti-vax.

July 25, 2016 - 20:20

Christopher Rodriguez

muh platform

July 25, 2016 - 20:20

James Cruz

Holla Forums here

I actually kinda feel bad for you guys right now

July 25, 2016 - 20:20

Justin Hill

Never in your life

July 25, 2016 - 20:20

Austin Thompson

liberal democracy never again after this one, never again.

July 25, 2016 - 20:20

Josiah Wright

go away checkers, I know it's you.

July 25, 2016 - 20:20

Logan Stewart

Damn the crowd is chanting we want B████. This is insane.

July 25, 2016 - 20:21

Michael Baker

I'm actually a socialist myself but socialism will be much easier once Mexicans have eradicated the whites and created a Mexican ethnostate.

Until the non-mexicans are genocided we cannot be free.

July 25, 2016 - 20:21

Robert Nguyen

they wish
democratic party is dead m8s

July 25, 2016 - 20:21

Aiden Rodriguez

I don't and I don't know anyone else in my state who does. Fuck off with your straw men.

July 25, 2016 - 20:21

Isaiah Sanders

me

July 25, 2016 - 20:21

Levi Fisher

Rolled 1 (1d1)Holla Forums here, stopped by to see if it was true you guys are so assmad you blacked out the name of comrade B████

July 25, 2016 - 20:21

Anthony Rodriguez

Never mind, just go back to Holla Forums

July 25, 2016 - 20:21

Isaac Howard

We did that ages ago.

July 25, 2016 - 20:22

Nathan Sanders

That's old as fuck dude

July 25, 2016 - 20:22

Chase Sanchez

sentence didn't make sense

July 25, 2016 - 20:22

Jeremiah Lewis

Same here, Just so down now. Hillary is fucking pure evil. Maybe I will just go for an indy.

July 25, 2016 - 20:22

Lucas Bell

What can we say? B████ took on the system and he lost. Now he's forced to suck Hillary's vaj.

July 25, 2016 - 20:22

Noah Scott

fuck it, im just die

July 25, 2016 - 20:22

Brayden Anderson

...

July 25, 2016 - 20:22

Blake Gutierrez

That was pretty great.

July 25, 2016 - 20:22

Henry Hill

Before or after he endorsed Hillary Clinton?

July 25, 2016 - 20:23

Samuel Russell

The only candidate on the ballet: Kim Jong Un.

But don't worry. They have a write in option if you want an all expenses paid trip for you and your family to all die in a prison camp.

July 25, 2016 - 20:23

Nolan Sullivan

...

July 25, 2016 - 20:23

Ryder Cook

where's the nitrogen

July 25, 2016 - 20:23

Isaiah James

I will say this. The dream is dead. The Class Traitor continued to betray his movement.

July 25, 2016 - 20:23

Juan Nelson

Same here

July 25, 2016 - 20:23

Lincoln Lewis

It's from some emails showing him as [REDACTED], I think.

July 25, 2016 - 20:23

Cameron King

oy vey

July 25, 2016 - 20:23

Brandon Kelly

Well played.

July 25, 2016 - 20:23

Dominic Anderson

lurk more faggot

July 25, 2016 - 20:24

Luke Young

...

July 25, 2016 - 20:24

David Lewis

Uncuck yourselves and get angry.

July 25, 2016 - 20:24

Dylan Allen

ikr

July 25, 2016 - 20:24

David Morris

That is a funny joke! She will totally work for universal healthcare and not shit on everyone if become the new puppet of the Bourgeois.

July 25, 2016 - 20:25

Nathaniel Wilson

Same could be said for you, faggot.

July 25, 2016 - 20:26

Mason Ross

Is this chick praying to mother earth? Is she Native American or something?

I'm confused.

July 25, 2016 - 20:26

Cameron Brooks

So how was the speech Holla Forums?

July 25, 2016 - 20:26

Carson Ramirez

riot time

July 25, 2016 - 20:26

Eli Foster

jewish.

July 25, 2016 - 20:26

Andrew Torres

NO REFUNDS

July 25, 2016 - 20:26

Jose Jackson

the planted trump rally protestors the DNC said were S█████ voters had more balls than actual B████ supporters kek.

July 25, 2016 - 20:26

Levi Flores

/shillbots/ and /altrighttrumpcucks/ are here trying to vulture for S█████ supporters' votes

Don't stoop to become one of them

July 25, 2016 - 20:26

Carter Long

They're here in full force.

July 25, 2016 - 20:27

Cooper Gray

i mean at the beginning i thought Sandie was just the usual politician but then saw Chomsky endorse him and thought to myself he might not be such a huge faggot after all…
hehe

July 25, 2016 - 20:27

Evan Williams

...

July 25, 2016 - 20:28

Xavier Smith

Sanders is going to be my enemy for the next three months. Shame we couldn't work together in the end.

July 25, 2016 - 20:28

Julian Bell

I donated like 70ish throughout the campaign. Worth every penny, I supported a candidate I wanted to support for at least a year before he announced.

July 25, 2016 - 20:28

Nicholas Gonzalez

Live like a cuck die like a cuck, what's it going to be leftypol!

July 25, 2016 - 20:28

Christopher Barnes

I guess S█████ is just doing damage control so he doesn't look bad in the mainstream.

Still a roll call vote tomorrow. Let's see the madness that ensues.

July 25, 2016 - 20:28

Blake Cox

Live like a classcuck, die like a classcuck!

What's it going to be, Holla Forums?

July 25, 2016 - 20:29

William Campbell

daily reminder Trump is a zionist

July 25, 2016 - 20:29

Landon Ross

They don't realize that if Hillary gets the nom, they'll rig it for her.

Donald Trump will be next. If they want a fair election, they should be shilling for B████ & no election fraud.

July 25, 2016 - 20:30

Leo Diaz

PRESS F

July 25, 2016 - 20:30

Michael Kelly

And has a kike grandson.

July 25, 2016 - 20:30

Ethan Garcia

I'd rather die then embrace the ideology of your magical xenophobic meme president.

July 25, 2016 - 20:30

Kayden Brown

twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/757779905593614336

July 25, 2016 - 20:30

Isaiah Morales

You guys didn't notice that B████ put Hillary's saggy tits in the ringer. B████ made a whole bunch of promises of what Hillary will do, basically his whole platform, on nationally syndicated television. A big bunch of progressive promises that Shillery now has to keep if she wants to get elected. If she renigs, then she's going to lose the support of millions, which B████ will not accept.

This, I believe, is B████'s strategy. Clinton gets his endorsement, but at the cost of her platform.

July 25, 2016 - 20:30

Aiden Anderson

Same here. Even if B████ doesn't get the nom, money well spent spreading class consciousness.

July 25, 2016 - 20:31

Blake Cooper

We'll see, comrade, we'll see.

July 25, 2016 - 20:31

William Hernandez

pls stop

July 25, 2016 - 20:31

Bentley Barnes

She can't keep those promises unless she gets elected, dummy :-)

July 25, 2016 - 20:31

Gavin Cook

Thank you. Fucking children are equating thing in zero sum game logic

July 25, 2016 - 20:31

Kevin Anderson

You will fall in line cuck boy, Holla Forums and kek have already got him this far lads. I cant wait to fuck you're boyfriend while you watch cuck boy. His going to beg me for more.

July 25, 2016 - 20:31

Parker White

And said Israel was one of our greatest allies in his RNC speech

July 25, 2016 - 20:31

Carson Robinson

Watching his speech now. He looks like he's in physical pain, especially with the idpol shit. I could be projecting. Somebody please put this fucking cancerous political system out of its misery.

Chodemonkey has a microbenis

July 25, 2016 - 20:32

Eli Rivera

Clinton is under no obligation to follow through with these new promises. If she wins in November she'll go full classcuck like Obama

July 25, 2016 - 20:32

Adrian Jackson

...

July 25, 2016 - 20:32

David Fisher

Platforms are literally just a piece of paper.

July 25, 2016 - 20:32

Ethan Sanders

Your greentexting says nothing.

July 25, 2016 - 20:32

Gabriel Smith

Can anyone explain this?

I'm really left thinking the emotional start ended up sending him off script into a B████ candidate rally speech, and then he reverted back to sort of endorsing Hillary at the last minute.

At the beginning I'm almost certain he was speaking in the heat of the moment.

July 25, 2016 - 20:33

Carson Evans

You're the ones being fools, Clinton has no problem with saying whatever people want to here and changing her position when it comes time to follow through. She'll say how much she hates TPP right up until the day she signs it into law.

July 25, 2016 - 20:33

Dylan Murphy

...

July 25, 2016 - 20:33

Jeremiah Rogers

You're a retard.

July 25, 2016 - 20:33

John Campbell

Jesus, get this autism out of here stat

July 25, 2016 - 20:33

Justin Evans

I'd accuse you of false-flagging but that's about what I'd expect of Holla Forums

July 25, 2016 - 20:33

Daniel Cruz

Well then I wonder if anyone has memed the Simple Plan song yet.

July 25, 2016 - 20:33

Julian Kelly

Stop taking it, comrades.

July 25, 2016 - 20:33

Ian Cook

They're rich, fam. They're bourgeois puppets and get to live luxuriously because of it.

July 25, 2016 - 20:33

Lincoln Collins

completely meaningless meme speak. I didn't even understand a word you said.

July 25, 2016 - 20:34

Thomas Lopez

This. The babies itt need to get this into their thick head.

also

July 25, 2016 - 20:34

Wyatt Perry

lel

July 25, 2016 - 20:34

Gavin Richardson

you inserted the B████ into that. there's no proof they support him.

also it could be an adoption, like 90% of interracial children (by that I mean different race than parents) are adoptions.

July 25, 2016 - 20:35

Blake Roberts

...

July 25, 2016 - 20:35

Cooper Rodriguez

???

July 25, 2016 - 20:36

Brandon Cox

Hilary picked Kaine and will pivot to the right once the convention is over. All of the "progressive" stuff in the platform will be outright ignored, because Hilary herself and the party establishment don't believe in it and don't believe it's worth their time to service the left in the genera election.

Ultimately, Hilary will be in the driver's seat and not B████. The left will get nothing and will continue to be ignored by the party. Neoliberals are called "collaborators" for a reason.

July 25, 2016 - 20:36

Kevin Hughes

Its up to us to push the left agenda. I don't have a fucking doubt in my mind Shit Hill will regress to the status quo if we let her.
We're gunna have to screech alot louder my dude.

July 25, 2016 - 20:37

Gabriel Baker

It's Holla Forums. They edit everything to fit their ideology.

July 25, 2016 - 20:37

Charles James

What's Jimmy "Blue Lives Splatter" Dore reaction to this?

July 25, 2016 - 20:38

Ian Parker

just make sure to stay in the free speech zone when you do :^]

July 25, 2016 - 20:38

Jayden Hall

Holy shit all the S█████ supporters not moving towards Shillary on MSNBC!

July 25, 2016 - 20:38

Jeremiah Evans

Is she allowed to become president with the amount of arrests she has?

Can you imagine the conversation she has in the jail cell with the guards?

July 25, 2016 - 20:38

Nathan Edwards

Fall in line you stupid goys, and no you cant have a refund! Now go support Hillery or else! that evil man Donald Hitler Trump is going to win!

July 25, 2016 - 20:38

Nolan Lopez

What day do the delegates and superdelegates vote?

July 25, 2016 - 20:38

Grayson Cox

Source? What'd they arrest her for this time?

July 25, 2016 - 20:39

Kayden Myers

Quality Doom B████. Saved.

July 25, 2016 - 20:39

Ethan Turner

tomorrow.

conflicting reports when though, B████ said tomorrow night and the schedule said tomorrow night. but I've heard reports of delegates saying that it might be tomorrow morning.

July 25, 2016 - 20:40

Jose Gonzalez

We gotta tear down that wall too comrade. We got alot of work to do.

July 25, 2016 - 20:40

Thomas Taylor

YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT TIME IT IS???

Time to reel disenfranchised B████ voters to the radical left.

OC about B████'s betrayal and/or sacrifice.

Approach your friends and families. We must not take this loss lying down.

July 25, 2016 - 20:40

Luke Bailey

Fuck this.

July 25, 2016 - 20:40

Liam Gray

Think of it this way: Clinton will say anything to get elected, and now she's going to be saying anything B████ says to get elected. However, by parroting B████, she's entering into agreement with B████ to support what he believes. You know, B████ ██████, the incredibly popular politician that fired up the youth of America? Should Clinton renig on this agreement with B████, then B████ will raise a stink, which in turn will cause the 18-34 demographic of the United States to raise a stink too. The result being a lot of hurt put on her and her allies in congress.

Bernie is using his position as a massive stick to whack Clinton with. Do what he says, fulfill his promises, or he will bring down the hurt.

July 25, 2016 - 20:41

Angel Rivera

Its not going to do a thing, the only way to teach her a lesson is to not give her our votes as she obviously takes them for granted. I'm voting Stein.

July 25, 2016 - 20:41

Julian Jenkins

Just lay down goy!

July 25, 2016 - 20:42

Austin Brooks

Thread theme:
youtube.com/watch?v=UsXmEfZ6-18

July 25, 2016 - 20:42

Oliver King

She don't care, she doesn't consider your vote valuable. Again that's why she picked fucking Kaine as her veep and not S█████ or Warren.

Once the general election kicks off next Monday (which is the first week following the convention), the Democrats will totally forget about B████ and the left. We'll be expected to quietly stand in line and vote Democrat, if we complain then we're mocked for being "petulant children" or similar.

Only one thing matters to politicians: the vote. If Hilary looses, that tells the Democrats that they cannot serve up crap and expect people to eat it.

July 25, 2016 - 20:42

Grayson Bailey

Either that or he acts like a class traitor. Let us hope you are right comrade.

July 25, 2016 - 20:42

Colton Parker

...

July 25, 2016 - 20:43

Jace Flores

Fine vote for Jill or Don't vote. I don't care. The presidency is pretty meaningless in the grand scheme of thing.
The left needs people moving and shaking on the streets more then it needs a president. If you really want to teach her a lesson then join me there.

July 25, 2016 - 20:43

Jeremiah Perry

there had better be riots on day 2.
Don't disappoint me philly comrades

July 25, 2016 - 20:43

Nathan Cox

When you're despised by a large portion of the electorate, yeah, you kinda do.

July 25, 2016 - 20:44

Austin Sanders

statistically most promises are kept.

though that counts stuff like "ill introduce a bill for x" and dthat might not even pass.

July 25, 2016 - 20:44

Juan Diaz

Everyone will forget. When has that never been the case? And then everyone will get their hopes up in another eight years and the cycle will repeat.

July 25, 2016 - 20:44

Brody Fisher

What if disappointing everyone was B████'s plan so they join the radical left and start serious shit like riots??

Yeah right…

July 25, 2016 - 20:44

Adam Torres

you're even using classic politically illiterate Holla Forums memes

July 25, 2016 - 20:44

Colton Robinson

I say again:
She can't keep those promises unless she gets elected, dummy :-)

July 25, 2016 - 20:45

Austin Flores

Trump almost has no chance.

July 25, 2016 - 20:45

Camden Kelly

He was leading in 3 polls this morning.
70% of the country doesn't trust Hillary.

July 25, 2016 - 20:46

Christopher Scott

Stop trying to rationalize this, Hilary Clinton does not care about her "agreement" with S█████. She might give him lip service but ultimately she will not actually move to implement anything he wants. It's the same shit with Obama, remember how he once said he would reform the military? Two years ago he exiled a US citizen who exposed how corrupt the NSA is. He also allowed the NSA director to lie to Congress, and covered it all up. Hilary would do exactly that.

18-24 year olds are less than 20% of voters in the general election, less than 10% of voters in midterms. She does not care if you cry as she's going after your parents who reliably vote. Again, this is why she picked Kaine.

July 25, 2016 - 20:46

Tyler Gonzalez

That's right vote Hillery, get your friend to vote too!

July 25, 2016 - 20:46

Colton Ward

...

July 25, 2016 - 20:46

Charles Rodriguez

...

July 25, 2016 - 20:46

Elijah Carter

Last time I checked Trump was a joke to everyone

Does he seriously stand a chance to win?

July 25, 2016 - 20:46

Parker Myers

said the increasingly nervous man for the 7th time this year.

July 25, 2016 - 20:46

Jeremiah Torres

Jail never stopped Debs from running.

July 25, 2016 - 20:47

Benjamin White

America is going fascist, better get used to it.

July 25, 2016 - 20:47

Brayden Wright

You give up so easily, comrade.

It's called a struggle, not a cake walk.

July 25, 2016 - 20:47

Henry Taylor

What percents were B████, hill, trump at? What pervent of bern will switch to hill?

July 25, 2016 - 20:47

Luke Robinson

...

July 25, 2016 - 20:47

Kayden Allen

Bernie called out the DNC & said he'd take it to a roll call vote. Don't forget about that!

When the roll call vote comes, shit's going to me crazy.

July 25, 2016 - 20:47

Joseph James

a little more than 2/3rds will go to hill.

July 25, 2016 - 20:47

Chase Collins

Capping this post to post on Holla Forums on the day of trumps inevitable defeat.

July 25, 2016 - 20:47

Ryder Evans

History repeats itself, comrade.

July 25, 2016 - 20:48

William Gray

Hillary basically sabotaged her own campaign, She'd need to cheat extra hard to win in November

July 25, 2016 - 20:48

Caleb Miller

...

July 25, 2016 - 20:48

Noah Lopez

T. American, 1928, 1934, 1953, 1967, 1974, 1983, 2001, 2016

Soooo originnnal! So new!

July 25, 2016 - 20:48

Blake Wilson

So tired comrades.

July 25, 2016 - 20:49

Nolan Myers

fixed

July 25, 2016 - 20:49

Angel Stewart

Oh, honey..

July 25, 2016 - 20:49

Parker Ramirez

No, she doesn't. If she's hated by leftists she don't care. She only cares about her image with "middle America" (which is piss poor as well but she seems to think this will change before November). What's the consequence if she turns out to be a neoliberal like Obama? She still gets a second term through inertia alone.

Please, Trump does well in swing states because Unionism there has eroded away. This is why the GOP run Congress. Hilary won't be winning especially when most leftists are going to check out or vote Green now.

July 25, 2016 - 20:49

Michael Bennett

-No years

July 25, 2016 - 20:49

Thomas Brooks

Who said that though

July 25, 2016 - 20:49

Elijah Parker

...

July 25, 2016 - 20:50

Logan Peterson

...

July 25, 2016 - 20:50

Nathan Garcia

...

July 25, 2016 - 20:50

Jonathan Walker

The proletariat is the largest voting block and they can become conscious.

July 25, 2016 - 20:50

Zachary Gutierrez

...

July 25, 2016 - 20:51

Matthew Gomez

Thank you

July 25, 2016 - 20:51

Jackson Hughes

When did I say that you dumb Holla Forums faggot

I pointed out your shit isn't new

July 25, 2016 - 20:51

Ian Hughes

...

July 25, 2016 - 20:51

Jayden Wright

...

July 25, 2016 - 20:51

Liam Johnson

Oy Vey, bring me the blood of these children when they commit suicide and they will.

July 25, 2016 - 20:52

Jordan Brooks

Are you retarded?

July 25, 2016 - 20:52

Jack Peterson

SRS get out.

July 25, 2016 - 20:52

Lucas Rivera

fuck, meant for

July 25, 2016 - 20:52

Nolan Fisher

(you)

July 25, 2016 - 20:52

Gabriel Rivera

not an argument

July 25, 2016 - 20:52

Kevin Ramirez

It's your flag, I assumed you stood for it.
Where did I claim to be saying something new? I was just calling Hillary a fascist.

:*(

Are you not?

July 25, 2016 - 20:52

Aaron Miller

Fascism is new in America!!!! Fascism is new in America!!! America is going fascist now and it will never change! Fascism is new in America!

July 25, 2016 - 20:52

Carter Gonzalez

kek

July 25, 2016 - 20:53

Brody Diaz

And? Just because they didn't have enough support. The elite compete with each other, tard.

July 25, 2016 - 20:53

Aaron Evans

...

July 25, 2016 - 20:53

Asher Moore

Well played, user. You showed them.

July 25, 2016 - 20:54

Angel Clark

And right now, proles are voting Republican because the GOP at least realizes their anger is real, and pretends to be anti-establishment. Populism sells.

What's Hilary doing? She's straight up telling them "I will be more of the same", you know, the same politics that destroyed the middle class in the first place. There is zero, ZERO, reason for a prole to vote for Hilary assuming they're conscious. Assuming they're not conscious, then they'll vote GOP as the GOP is the party of jesus and guns.

Either way, Hilary can't win here.

July 25, 2016 - 20:54

Noah Johnson

What's your point, exactly? Are you saying America has always been fascist? If so, whatever–it's becoming more fascist.

July 25, 2016 - 20:54

Liam Butler

You said it was "new" as a declarative America is "going" fascist implying fresh change and not standard liberal security hysterics after capital goes down

This always happens because human beings are retarded and don't know what's good for them and need to be put down like dogs

July 25, 2016 - 20:54

Tyler Fisher

This thread has become a warzone between comrades and polyps. MODS WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU?!

July 25, 2016 - 20:54

Ryan Brooks

My point is that you're implying Trump isn't part of the elite, but he is.

And if Clinton wins, she is too.

You're just being dumb purposefully I'd wager.

July 25, 2016 - 20:55

Anthony Carter

it's like you haven't even been paying attention

July 25, 2016 - 20:55

Isaac Rogers

God you morons can't even decipher a shit post

July 25, 2016 - 20:55

Xavier Miller

Are you autistic?
Do you not know what hyperbole is?

July 25, 2016 - 20:55

Justin Powell

Seriously. I like discussion, not 100% shitposting.

July 25, 2016 - 20:55

Bentley Davis

I wish memes were against the rules.

July 25, 2016 - 20:56

Gavin Rivera

This is a pretty cringe post tbh.
Should probably kill yourself.

July 25, 2016 - 20:56

Nathaniel James

hello, i don't want to ban people for opinions. I don't want to play into their "leftists are for censorship" meme.

July 25, 2016 - 20:56

Jacob Allen

I'm not voting for Trump so the odds I'm not autistic are significantly hire than for you since you're also posting dead memes from 2012

July 25, 2016 - 20:56

Parker Lee

Trump is also part of the elite. But Clinton has much more power. Hence why she'll win if it comes down to them.

Holla Forumsyps thinking this undermining of democracy is funny, it will come to bite them in the ass.

July 25, 2016 - 20:56

Caleb Thompson

facebook froggy!

July 25, 2016 - 20:57

Jackson Turner

youtube.com/watch?v=2KYYVrBX4v0

This song is what should be playing for Comrade S█████ right now.

July 25, 2016 - 20:57

Justin Peterson

fwoggy!

July 25, 2016 - 20:57

Austin Green

Chris-Chan is voting for Hillary.

July 25, 2016 - 20:57

Logan Roberts

Yup. He is. You're voting for the male version

July 25, 2016 - 20:57

Jason Harris

No, I wish shitting up threads was. No one wants you here.

July 25, 2016 - 20:57

Robert Baker

I'm sorry to tell you this, an-fem…

July 25, 2016 - 20:57

Owen Martin

OY VEY, It's another Shoah!

July 25, 2016 - 20:57

John Sanders

...

July 25, 2016 - 20:58

Blake Scott

It's like that one butthurt Holla Forumsyp who was here yesterday crying about being banned from Holla Forums because he didn't deserve it, like everyone else does.

July 25, 2016 - 20:58

Aiden Brown

Hillary wants to build a wall and ban Muslim immigration?

July 25, 2016 - 20:58

Ryder Perez

…You realize I'm agreeing with you?

July 25, 2016 - 20:59

John Wilson

W.. What is that

July 25, 2016 - 20:59

Luke Cox

It is the truth

No. Neither does Trump.

July 25, 2016 - 20:59

Jordan Campbell

Nah she has other ways of being fascist.

July 25, 2016 - 20:59

Levi Allen

user pls

July 25, 2016 - 20:59

Brody Long

That was a penis, I think.

July 25, 2016 - 20:59

Connor Rodriguez

How do you know that he won't follow through on his claims that he will build a wall? Why do you think they're equally likely to do these things, when one claims he will and the other claims that the first is evil for claiming he will?

I thought she wasn't a fascist. I thought she was just a liberal tool of the bourgeoisie responding to a threat to capital.

July 25, 2016 - 21:00

Daniel Scott

...

July 25, 2016 - 21:00

Sebastian Mitchell

because it's literally impossible to build a wall.

unless it's like a mile long.

July 25, 2016 - 21:01

Justin Morris

Because it's economically impossible.

July 25, 2016 - 21:01

Isaac Lopez

Chris chans NEWLY BUILT VAGINA! THIS IS WHAT A MALE VAGINA LOOKS LIKE!

THIS IS WHAT DEMOCRACY LOOKS LIKE!

July 25, 2016 - 21:02

Lincoln Gutierrez

Huh, news to me tbh. Do you have a source?

July 25, 2016 - 21:02

William Roberts

This.

July 25, 2016 - 21:02

Oliver Wood

Is that what tranny's "vagina" look like? Fucking disgusting.

July 25, 2016 - 21:02

Cooper Sullivan

Literally looks like a gash. A literal gash.

July 25, 2016 - 21:03

Blake Powell

How did he give up his raging libido for that.

July 25, 2016 - 21:03

Jackson Anderson

Stop being transphobic!

July 25, 2016 - 21:03

Grayson Collins

Because it is.

July 25, 2016 - 21:03

Austin Morris

You retards imply that:

is legit discussion when if any of our comrades started shit in pol then you polyps would ban them as well.

But then again, I kind of expect autistic stormfags to change the narrative to suit their agenda.

Like a certain female candidate.

July 25, 2016 - 21:04

Oliver Anderson

the estimated cost is 300 billion
attn.com/stories/8502/donald-trump-immigration-wall-cost

July 25, 2016 - 21:04

Camden Torres

Sources: Life, common sense, logic

Seriously user. The logistics of that, the resources needed & the will of the people against it.

We need employment rebuilding our current infrastructure, which is crumbling. Those resources are much needed for rebuilding America.

July 25, 2016 - 21:05

Colton Hall

Congress would block it. They would shut down the government like they did if they must.

Afterwards, he would have to sign executive order, which would be blocked by congress again. He said for this reason, he wants a vice president to work him like a puppet ala Dick Cheney - Bush

You know you can't win this. You are built upon lies.

July 25, 2016 - 21:05

Lincoln Allen

So it's expensive.
That doesn't make it impossible.
How about you copy & paste some relevant sections? I'm tired, I don't have time to read that whole thing.

July 25, 2016 - 21:05

Ryder Russell

...

July 25, 2016 - 21:05

Luke Ortiz

Okay user, fine I'll relax. So whats next lads? What are you going to about it?

July 25, 2016 - 21:06

Dylan Green

Fuck off cuck.

July 25, 2016 - 21:06

Adam Allen

No.

youtube.com/watch?v=cmnCEYtslHc

July 25, 2016 - 21:06

William Morris

Go to sleep, you have to get in a regular sleep schedule when you start high school back up.

July 25, 2016 - 21:06

Alexander Price

By that logic that Death Star petition was feasible.

July 25, 2016 - 21:06

Benjamin Ramirez

What do you think? Convert people for leftism of course.

July 25, 2016 - 21:07

Adam Rodriguez

This.

July 25, 2016 - 21:07

Eli Davis

Am I sick if I say that kind of turned me on a lil bit?

July 25, 2016 - 21:07

Benjamin Reyes

I dunno, man, that isn't an argument.
Besides, the point is whether or not he will try to follow through, not whether or not he will succeed. I'm not moving goalposts, just reminding you where they were before you started making hyperbolic statements about impossibility.

Socialism depends upon lies.

Well memed, friend! I don't see what I requested, which was perfectly reasonable of me to request.

It was built, so it was certainly a possibility.
The claim I'm responding to is "It's economically impossible." Not "It's a terrible idea."

July 25, 2016 - 21:08

Alexander Clark

Nah, would be expected from someone who's an anfem tbh.

July 25, 2016 - 21:08

Ayden Bell

You didn't counter anything I said.

So I'll repeat it.

Congress would block it. They would shut down the government like they did if they must.

Afterwards, he would have to sign executive order, which would be blocked by congress again. He said for this reason, he wants a vice president to work him like a puppet ala Dick Cheney - Bush

You know you can't win this. You are built upon lies.

July 25, 2016 - 21:08

Dominic Perry

Very

July 25, 2016 - 21:08

Easton Allen

It's chris chan's cunt, what's wrong with you gurl? You wanna get sonichu'd or what?

July 25, 2016 - 21:08

Chase Fisher

you…you do know star wars is fake right?

July 25, 2016 - 21:09

Xavier Parker

where does he get the money for this shit.

July 25, 2016 - 21:09

Nicholas Cruz

You're sick for a whole host of other reasons.

July 25, 2016 - 21:09

Adam Young

Jesus put a spoiler on that image

July 25, 2016 - 21:09

William Gutierrez

Somebody gives a source.

Stormfag pls.

July 25, 2016 - 21:09

Jeremiah Sullivan

begging on youtube for his mom's meds

July 25, 2016 - 21:09

Zachary Morgan

He lives at home and spends money on pretty much nothing while waiting for his disability check. Shit's fucked I'm pretty jealous tbh

July 25, 2016 - 21:10

Owen James

He has created a presidential mandate for himself to implement an immigration system that discriminates by country of origin depending on terrorist threat, which in practice would mean unwinding Teddy Kennedy’s 1965 immigration act to reduce the number of legal immigrants who come from the Third World, and abolish diversity.

It would be a de facto Muslim ban.

July 25, 2016 - 21:10

Cooper Bailey

He camgirls.

July 25, 2016 - 21:10

John Ross

You're the pedo who lost their virginity at 10, aren't you? You're already sick. And you're extra sick for being turned on by an entirely unnatural orifice that never existed in all of human history until about 50 years ago.

July 25, 2016 - 21:10

Jeremiah Gray

I still don't see an argument.>Congress would block it. They would shut down the government like they did if they must.
What does this have to do with his ability to try to get it through? You're claiming that Trump and Hillary are identical candidates, my claim is simply that they do not stand for the same policies any more than B████ and Hillary do. I thought this was too obvious to warrant an explicit statement.

I do–I also know that illegal immigrants break the law when they enter a country illegally, and that breaking the law means that someone should be punished, in a just system.

July 25, 2016 - 21:10

Christopher Bell

See

Congress would block it. They would shut down the government like they did if they must.

Afterwards, he would have to sign executive order, which would be blocked by congress again. He said for this reason, he wants a vice president to work him like a puppet ala Dick Cheney - Bush

You know you can't win this. You are built upon lies.

July 25, 2016 - 21:10

Brody Powell

You pick a strawman.
The point is whether it's possible - that directly relates to follow-through, you retard.

>>>Holla Forums Just go back & stop shitting up our boars with your autism.

July 25, 2016 - 21:10

Elijah Russell

Damn son this is going on r/4chan.

July 25, 2016 - 21:11

Josiah Brown

...

July 25, 2016 - 21:11

Liam Moore

It's only been shown that it's expensive and not necessarily a good idea, not that it's impossible.

July 25, 2016 - 21:11

Angel James

lmao

It's Holla Forums, life is a video game to them, user

July 25, 2016 - 21:11

Leo Torres

There's nothing wrong with trans pussy, but there is something very wrong with chris chan. Get your argument together, man.

July 25, 2016 - 21:11

Samuel Fisher

That mutilated dick isn't a vagina and you know it.

July 25, 2016 - 21:12

Nathaniel Bennett

Do you fucking know how laws are passed.

Yup

That's fucking stupidly liberal. They both want the same shit more similarly than B████.

July 25, 2016 - 21:12

Xavier Myers

eh, he took the roll call which is more than I thought he would do.
Maybe we'll see a riot before Hillary's inevitable coronation.
That might be nice.

July 25, 2016 - 21:12

Aiden Kelly

Ok then. Glad to see you understand.

July 25, 2016 - 21:12

Matthew Allen

Is this the worst election in American history? I can't think of a worse one.

July 25, 2016 - 21:12

Carter Perez

that would imply that the laws they broke were just in the first place.

July 25, 2016 - 21:12

Jackson Moore

No, maybe. But I think that pic is the result of a straight up penectomy.

July 25, 2016 - 21:12

Isaiah Adams

semantics you moron. no one fucking cares. it's economically infeasible and literally won't do anything but waste a shit ton of money.

July 25, 2016 - 21:12

Christopher Butler

I still remember that shit.

July 25, 2016 - 21:12

David Sanders

Looking at you most people don't.

July 25, 2016 - 21:13

Adrian Jackson

All memes aside, how do you think he personally feels right now

July 25, 2016 - 21:13

Elijah Davis

...

July 25, 2016 - 21:13

Nathaniel Davis

Orc did used to mean foreign invaders though, but was naturally sued in reference to Scandinavians and Normans- irony?

July 25, 2016 - 21:13

Oliver Carter

The election that the antichrist won

July 25, 2016 - 21:14

Jason Walker

"I want to go home"

July 25, 2016 - 21:14

Cameron Cox

A What?

July 25, 2016 - 21:14

Dominic Hughes

Either "What have I done?"
or
"It was for the best."

July 25, 2016 - 21:15

Tyler Flores

Which one was that?

July 25, 2016 - 21:15

Jaxon White

Keep telling yourself that, Bruce.

Do you not know what "try" means?
OK.
Sorry, I'm not a socialist.
And yet there are significant differences that prevent them from uniting to a greater degree than they prevented B████ from endorsing Hillary.

How are laws that mandate a citizenship process unjust? How are borders unjust?

Sorry, not gonna happen-it's about possibility, not feasibility, and the two are different.

Not an argument, really.

July 25, 2016 - 21:15

Christopher King

Hello MexicAnarchist.

July 25, 2016 - 21:15

Mason Russell

Chopadictomy

July 25, 2016 - 21:15

Charles Watson

Oh, and if we want to talk about how laws are passed–SCOTUS mandated Citizens United, Congress really has no meaningful authority to overturn a SCOTUS case.
Good night!

July 25, 2016 - 21:16

Leo Butler

...

July 25, 2016 - 21:16

Jason Robinson

Every single one.

July 25, 2016 - 21:16

Zachary Lopez

Probably laughing it up because he really was a sheepdog for the Democrats all along.

July 25, 2016 - 21:16

Kayden Wilson

Neither am I. Cool. We're similar.

I don't know. Do you fucking know how laws are passed?

July 25, 2016 - 21:16

Connor Parker

that was my first post about this subject. the point still stands, you're arguing specifics, not the meaning of what people are actually arguing about.

July 25, 2016 - 21:17

Brandon Butler

But there's only one antichrist

July 25, 2016 - 21:17

Hudson Wright

Are you the guy arguing why the wall can be built?

July 25, 2016 - 21:17

Nicholas Gray

You have to go back MexicAnarchist.

July 25, 2016 - 21:17

Easton Butler

How bout you get the fuck off this board.

July 25, 2016 - 21:18

Nolan James

Jesus, user

July 25, 2016 - 21:18

Wyatt Miller

I imagine an exhausting mental cycle between the two

July 25, 2016 - 21:18

Matthew Gutierrez

Penis removal surgery.

July 25, 2016 - 21:18

Ayden Miller

Jesus fucks I can't wait for the inevitable Trump tears when his ass gets gangraped by Hillary in November.

July 25, 2016 - 21:18

Carter Morris

Back to >>>Holla Forums, stormcuck.

July 25, 2016 - 21:19

Levi Johnson

Boy, does that explain a lot about your flag. Tell me about your father.

July 25, 2016 - 21:19

Tyler Gutierrez

Tell that to all the anarchists then lol

July 25, 2016 - 21:19

Nathaniel Martinez

There's two of us posting in here dumbshit

July 25, 2016 - 21:19

Justin Reed

ORCS MAN! ORCS!

July 25, 2016 - 21:19

Luis Watson

nations are spooks and i don't care about citizenship as a concept. having citizens and non citizens creates a population of workers that are more easily exploited and can't unionize.
borders divide the planet based on non-existent lines in the sand. Borders imply nations, and under a capitalist system nations exist to support the capitalist class as they send unwilling proles off to war to die for the benefit of the state.

July 25, 2016 - 21:19

Jacob Thompson

that's Holla Forums 101

July 25, 2016 - 21:19

Juan Anderson

Ah, so you're politically illiterate to boot.

July 25, 2016 - 21:20

Oliver Davis

irrelevant to my comment

July 25, 2016 - 21:20

Kevin Brown

Socialist is a broad term. I usually associate it with a state.

July 25, 2016 - 21:20

Jaxson Turner

Anything with an "odomy/ectomy" at the end of it means cutting it out/off. An fyi, for people.

July 25, 2016 - 21:21

Grayson Perry

Cool story bro sis.

July 25, 2016 - 21:21

James Green

Someone needs to screencap these posts, like the Mitt Romney ones

July 25, 2016 - 21:22

Camden Garcia

How about use "state socialist" like everyone else.

July 25, 2016 - 21:22

Michael Smith

Sure.

July 25, 2016 - 21:22

Chase Campbell

tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SuspiciouslySpecificDenial

July 25, 2016 - 21:23

Jonathan Hernandez

...

July 25, 2016 - 21:23

Grayson Taylor

Gross. How the fuck is that legal? The doctor that did this should lose his license.

July 25, 2016 - 21:24

Isaiah Mitchell

fuk the poleeese amirite xD

July 25, 2016 - 21:26

Kevin Cooper

Sad day comrades, sad day.

July 25, 2016 - 21:27

Isaiah Robinson

bernie is basically shinji from eva.

July 25, 2016 - 21:27

Daniel Kelly

...

July 25, 2016 - 21:29

Jackson Williams

SOMEBODY PUT UP THAT WEBM OF KOM SUSSER TOD WITH B████ AND HILLARY

July 25, 2016 - 21:29

Luis Martin

Not my intention. I just appreciate historic context and hoped others would as well given how important the term was to the events of 1066- Stanford Bridge and Hastings.

I dislike applying the term to economic migrants as I genuinely fear it glorifies them.

Orcs of the 40k universe provide a concrete example of anarcho-primitivism; thus applying the term to people makes one seem like a deluded fool at best, or risks associating economic migrants with a successful & powerful rapacious horde.

July 25, 2016 - 21:29

Brody Cox

Speak English, please.

July 25, 2016 - 21:30

Liam Fisher

Orcs of the 40k universe provide a concrete example of anarcho-primitivism
Orcs are highly hierarchical, so not anarchist, and highly technologically advanced, so not primitivist.

July 25, 2016 - 21:31

Jackson White

you stupid fucks still fall for the anfem flag posts

i bet you're just newbies from Holla Forums, or at least i want to believe that

July 25, 2016 - 21:31

Justin Diaz

*ork

July 25, 2016 - 21:31

Hunter Sanders

Quit speaking in memes, please.

July 25, 2016 - 21:32

Jason Moore

okay i'll admit, i havent been lurking/posting on Holla Forums that much this past year at all, who is the anfem flag? what are they doing that gets everyone riled up in every thread? im honestly so confused

July 25, 2016 - 21:33

Leo Rodriguez

...

July 25, 2016 - 21:34

Isaac Watson

Orks are hierarchical as fuck, you moron.

July 25, 2016 - 21:34

Leo Nelson

Calm down MexicAnarchist.

July 25, 2016 - 21:34

Cooper Williams

...

July 25, 2016 - 21:34

Owen Young

Posting inordinate amounts of bait and having unwarranted self importance.

July 25, 2016 - 21:34

Isaac Parker

Ya'll are dumb.

July 25, 2016 - 21:36

Wyatt Howard

Very poor quality post.
I recommend you delete it.

July 25, 2016 - 21:36

Aaron Foster

Not an argument.

July 25, 2016 - 21:36

Owen Allen

Test

B████ ██████

July 25, 2016 - 21:36

Thomas Roberts

thanks, now I have to go fap

July 25, 2016 - 21:37

Carter Parker

BERNIE, GET IN THE FUCKING REVOLUTION

July 25, 2016 - 21:37

Leo Jackson

What the fuck is this faggotry?

July 25, 2016 - 21:37

Sebastian Reyes

You faggots fall for the bait everytime anfem and nihil are the standard shitposting flags, anyone who's been here longer than a week knows that.

July 25, 2016 - 21:38

Blake Baker

The mods got pissy.

July 25, 2016 - 21:38

Austin Cooper

Sad!

July 25, 2016 - 21:38

Camden Peterson

Case in point for this newfaggotry.

July 25, 2016 - 21:38

Dominic Lee

40k orks have a shifting hierarchy, in that a wagh chief is only a leader so long as he's the strongest.

A true hierarchy has some certainty, whereas in ork society it's always the right of the strongest.

They're primitive not in technology, but in behavior, methods, way of life, social structure- etc.

And even their technology isn't particularly technical- orks posses some latent psychic ability that enables their machinery to function- absent an ork horde their technology and weapons all fall apart, as they're maintained not by science but willpower and a collective belief.

July 25, 2016 - 21:39

Caleb Diaz

That's pretty dumb. Hopefully it doesn't stay like this.

Why are you insulting me for no reason? Kind of mean really.

July 25, 2016 - 21:40

Oliver Bennett

So I know you guys are upset, but are you really going to vote for a third party or not vote this year, or are you going to let Trump pull this country farther to the right than it's been in at least a decade (before his popularity takes a predictable and rapid nosedive)?

July 25, 2016 - 21:40

Daniel Scott

midna is literally the most fuckable character in fiction

July 25, 2016 - 21:41

Adam Hill

I'm going to vote third party as a symbol of support for reformism and then I'm going to work on organizing and discussing at a local level to be ready for when reformism gives way to revolution.

July 25, 2016 - 21:42

Henry Davis

Lurk moar, faggot. Nothing personal.

July 25, 2016 - 21:42

Gabriel Butler

Not true at all.

Irrelevant to primitivism.

Primitivism is a willful rejection of technology, not the incapacity to build it.

July 25, 2016 - 21:42

Blake Richardson

What is your problem?

July 25, 2016 - 21:43

Nolan Edwards

You're being downvoted because you're enjoying something that a lot of people have already seen and know about. You're not supposed to enjoy things that a lot of other people have already enjoyed. I just wanted to take a moment to explain to you how reddit works. If something is used that has already been used a lot, it's not necessarily wrong (notice the gif still got upvotes for the appropriateness of its use), but you're just not allowed to express too much enjoyment of it.

July 25, 2016 - 21:43

Owen Reed

Midna has a cute face and wide hips and she has a cute language.

July 25, 2016 - 21:44

Aiden Flores

But it is personal.

I can post animu too, you bully.

July 25, 2016 - 21:44

Thomas Stewart

She's got spunk, bro. You gotta like girls with attitude.

July 25, 2016 - 21:44

Michael Thomas

Why do you dislike white people?

July 25, 2016 - 21:45

Caleb Richardson

Don't get too excited there Chomsky.

July 25, 2016 - 21:46

Benjamin Sanders

Why do you want to destroy the world?

July 25, 2016 - 21:46

Isaac Scott

Are you implying that whites are destroying the world with capitalism?

July 25, 2016 - 21:48

Jace Allen

Can't jump or dance and like mayo, lmao.

July 25, 2016 - 21:49

Austin Baker

I dunno.

Are you implying that I dislike white people?

July 25, 2016 - 21:49

Michael Cook

Why would we dislike whites? Most of us are white.

July 25, 2016 - 21:50

Thomas Peterson

Human Instrumentality 2016

July 25, 2016 - 21:52

William Baker

There's literally nothing wrong with mayo, it tastes great on tuna sandwiches mixed with a bit of mustard.

July 25, 2016 - 21:54

Jackson Jackson

Pachelbel's canon

July 25, 2016 - 21:55

Brandon Roberts

I like my Italian subs, light mayo only.

July 25, 2016 - 21:57

Leo Morgan

Living in California says enough.

July 25, 2016 - 22:03

Blake Lee

Are you implying I live in California?

July 25, 2016 - 22:04

Easton Gutierrez

You really aren't MexicAnarchist, are you?

July 25, 2016 - 22:05

Wyatt Harris

I don't get what people were expecting.
Of course he was going to endorse Shillary, but we got him to move the overton window.
Anti-capitalism seems less scary in the eyes of normies and we've made more people aware of our farce we call a democracy.
Also, the roll call is going to be chaos.
Am I missing something?
Where did we lose?
What seems to be the problem is all ya'll niggas got attached to him.

July 25, 2016 - 22:06

Aaron Wilson

dude, you are NAILING it!

July 25, 2016 - 22:06

Carter Hughes

lol @ you disgusting peasants and your low wages and your emotions

July 25, 2016 - 22:09

Nicholas Martin

Sorry.

July 25, 2016 - 22:10

Kayden Richardson

pretty sure "we" didn't do jack shit

July 25, 2016 - 22:11

Aaron Green

Define "we".

July 25, 2016 - 22:11

Ryder Rivera

lolberts should be culled

July 25, 2016 - 22:12

Kevin Edwards

Bring back political assassination and assassinate the people who dare cry.

July 25, 2016 - 22:12

Brayden Gomez

you first nigger

July 25, 2016 - 22:13

Nicholas Bailey

I think the cheers at the beginning genuinely got to him.

Unlikely he'll change his decision now though.

July 25, 2016 - 22:14

Bentley Stewart

no, seriously

July 25, 2016 - 22:16

Kayden Walker

The american socdem Left is lacking a bad cop tbh.

A Malcolm X to the their MLK if you will

July 25, 2016 - 22:17

Oliver Robinson

I'm not voting. The democratic party has made their choice. Now we all have to live with it. You;d have to hold a gun to my head to get me to vote for that smug cunt.

July 25, 2016 - 22:19

Aiden Wright

I imagine that just being a shitty sjw.

July 25, 2016 - 22:20

Caleb Reyes

Speaking for myself then, I've been agitating a lot of these B████ supporters since day one.

I figured everyone else was doing the same.

July 25, 2016 - 22:21

Parker Garcia

...

July 25, 2016 - 22:21

Elijah Richardson

Because everything tough on your own identity is a shitty sjw because that hurts your fucking feelings

July 25, 2016 - 22:22

Christian Roberts

Nah this place is filled with pieces of shit like who think non-participation is making a statement.

July 25, 2016 - 22:22

Matthew Ramirez

Methinks thou doth protest too much.

July 25, 2016 - 22:23

Kevin Miller

"Never trust a social democrat"

-a very dead Rosa Luxemburg.

In principal yes, and as I recall this is precisely of of the better outcomes discussed months ago.

I suppose its just disappointing to see.

July 25, 2016 - 22:23

Jose Murphy

Does anyone have a recap or infographics on the accusations of election fraud in the primaries?

July 25, 2016 - 22:23

Jackson Cooper

...

July 25, 2016 - 22:24

Henry Clark

Methinks thou doth protest too much

July 25, 2016 - 22:24

Carson Watson

...

July 25, 2016 - 22:24

Matthew Flores

interesting perspective
Do you see anyone who could fill that role?
What do you think this would do for that movement?

July 25, 2016 - 22:25

Liam Lopez

And what have you done?

July 25, 2016 - 22:26

Leo Johnson

With that level of political compromise one has to wonder whether we exist as a voting block at all, or are we simply the anti-Trump movement until the GOP selects a significantly better candidate?

July 25, 2016 - 22:27

Julian Morales

defensive af

July 25, 2016 - 22:27

Samuel Thompson

What have you done by voting besides sell your soul

July 25, 2016 - 22:27

Christopher Russell

That's exactly what you just did initially

July 25, 2016 - 22:27

Nathaniel Lee

m8 for the love of god stop role-playing

this isn't 1918, you're not the badass revolutionary you think you are, there isn't going to be a revolution anytime soon, etc.

let's agree to deal with reality here. with present conditions, present circumstances, and so on.

July 25, 2016 - 22:28

Joseph Bennett

there's literally nothing wrong with roleplaying

July 25, 2016 - 22:29

Michael Reyes

To be fair, it's pretty hard to be a radical, violent socdem. How do you be a dangerous moderate? You've gotta be radical about something, and right now idpol is that for a lot of people.

Present circumstances say we're moving towards a massive war that nobody wants other than the ruling class and just dealing with what we have isn't going to get us out of it.

July 25, 2016 - 22:29

Joseph Jackson

What the fuck are you even talking about?
Where did I say any of that?
For the love of God, take a break from shitposting for a second and take a nap.
You're getting cranky over nothing now.

July 25, 2016 - 22:30

Ethan Gomez

Yup.

July 25, 2016 - 22:30

Josiah Evans

I get "triggered" by being irritated by your repetitive bullshit yes. You can't scream "triggered" at everyone getting tired of repetitive shit.

You did the no u shit initially just calm down.

July 25, 2016 - 22:32

Andrew Hughes

It is making a statement.. There's either barbarism or communism and they choose the latter. We have to lay in the bed we've made. I'm not voting for that worthless bitch and helping to legitimize the democratic party. They think they can hold the nation hostage. I'm not playing that game. Let Trump have the country. Fuck them,

July 25, 2016 - 22:32

Levi Sullivan

Do you have a better solution unless you can muster up up a revolution?

Keep a fascist out of office?

July 25, 2016 - 22:32

Austin Murphy

but you actually are triggered tho

July 25, 2016 - 22:34

Connor Myers

I see nothing wrong with this statement.

July 25, 2016 - 22:34

Henry Russell

I remember you're first week here. The salt was delicious when you realized that we weren't ever gonna buy your bullshit.

July 25, 2016 - 22:35

Brandon Wilson

That's not what it means.

July 25, 2016 - 22:35

Levi Jones

Making a statement requires you to say something. Inaction doesn't tell anyone anything unless it's very very specific circumstances.

July 25, 2016 - 22:36

Liam Foster

And pacifism solves violence right?

July 25, 2016 - 22:37

Justin Miller

Moynihan makes okay music but his politcs are shit.

July 25, 2016 - 22:38

John Evans

If Malcolm were alive today you would be crying hard over him. Fucking hypocritical little liberal shits.

I repeated the same thing, got angry, other anfems posted, you got angry.

You tend to get angry a lot over nothing and that wouldn't matter if I wouldn't be here.

It is what it means.

July 25, 2016 - 22:38

Leo Gray

LET'S STOP FIGHTING

I mean, I gotta tell ya, this is just nuts, okay? This is just crazy. I mean geez oh man

July 25, 2016 - 22:41

Eli Thomas

Whoops, wrong one, my bad, hahaha.

youtube.com/watch?v=OXFXh9NcnIE

July 25, 2016 - 22:41

Angel Roberts

"Methinks" is an accusation of over defensiveness. "No u" means nothing at all.

July 25, 2016 - 22:42

Robert Carter

The fuck are you talking about

July 25, 2016 - 22:43

Leo Harris

If someone like Malcolm were alive today with the same notoriety the bitch fests about it would be beyond endless.

July 25, 2016 - 22:44

Ayden Ross

Bitching about what? The black nationalism?

July 25, 2016 - 22:46

Jose Butler

To be fair, the Nation Of Islam were fucked. At least the Panthers were based in reality.

July 25, 2016 - 22:47

Jaxon Young

Call it whatever you want. I will not be threated by a bunch of establishment crocks into voting for one of the most contemptible piece of shit that's ever run for a public office. I'm not afraid of Donald Trump. At the end day get past the racist and sexist rhetoric and he's just a fucking liberal. I'm more scared of Shillary starting a nuclear war then any of the stupid crap Trump is promising.

I'm sorry how do you know I got angry? I'm a different poster from the one you're talking too. I had a blast when you first got here. I don't know what you're talking about I was friendly with both the an-fems before you go here. So I doubt I'm who you think I am.

July 25, 2016 - 22:47

Oliver Bailey

Don't play coy

July 25, 2016 - 22:47

Hudson Butler

What the fuck do you want from me?

July 25, 2016 - 22:48

Brandon Ortiz

What do you want from me?

July 25, 2016 - 22:49

Andrew Cox

You said we'd be bitching about X and I asked you to explain.

July 25, 2016 - 22:52

Aiden Cruz

Not so, we'd be calling him the far-left's Milo.

archive.is/c5AAn

We'd have a blast laughing at him.

July 25, 2016 - 23:06

Dominic Mitchell

Uhh..

July 25, 2016 - 23:09

Joseph Thomas

Pacifists get into too many fights.

And he was a soldier. Also, treated the ethnic Dalits (lowest caste) as subhumans following his career of killing Zulus for queen and country.

His protest started because the British wouldn't treat him fairly while maintaining horrific mistreatment of Dalits as well as the caste system.

July 25, 2016 - 23:13

Carson King

That's a terrible analogy, Malcom X was subhuman trash until a crisis of faith almost immediately before his assassination.

July 25, 2016 - 23:13

Robert Mitchell

Pls don't.

July 25, 2016 - 23:13

Aaron King

There was plenty of violence going on during and after the Indian independence movement. Gandhi was an awful human being who shouldn't be hero worshipped.

July 25, 2016 - 23:15

Noah Cook

Not in his movement. He preached nonviolence & went on hunger strikes when violence did occur within the movement, until the violence stopped.

You're full of shit. He fought with the Dalits. His wife on the other hand, it took her a while to come around.

July 25, 2016 - 23:16

Brandon Ortiz

No one's hero worshipping. But don't say pacifists don't get anything done.

July 25, 2016 - 23:17

Isaiah Johnson

Bernie

July 25, 2016 - 23:24

Elijah Russell

Fudgeeee

July 25, 2016 - 23:28

Joshua Wood

Correct, but he was before his movement.

If by that you mean fought for and not fought against- I will need a citation. Everything I've read supports the anecdote of Gandhi discouraging any Dalit from seeking education.

And also that he supported the caste system and viewed Dalits as subhuman.

wagingnonviolence.org/feature/gandhi-and-the-dalit-controversy-the-limits-of-the-moral-force-of-an-individual/

countercurrents.org/dalit-mountain200306.htm

This comes up in a search I just did, and the article I find that supports your stance only has this to say:

But the whole article that quote is from seems to try and brush away Dalit mistreatment as a thing of the past, despite attacks being constant even into the Clinton era.

July 25, 2016 - 23:29

Evan Collins

Nice meme. Capitalism WANTS people not to vote.

July 25, 2016 - 23:33

Zachary Foster

Are you implying that Gandhi's pacifism alone forced the british out of India?

July 25, 2016 - 23:34

Blake Hernandez

And? We're talking about his movement, here.

From your first article:

This article supports his fights for equality. If the Dalits had a separate electorate, it would further isolate them. That's good reasoning to fight against it, and it seems it's misinterpreted often.

July 25, 2016 - 23:41

Nathan James

You/they said pacifism, so I responded to that. I'm not in the position of not voting, but it's their right if someone wants to not exercise it.

July 25, 2016 - 23:43

Samuel Fisher

Of course not. But it was the single greatest factor in mobilizing people for the cause. His pacifism was what gave the movement legitimacy.

July 25, 2016 - 23:44

Jordan Davis

you should read some Gelderloos tbh

July 25, 2016 - 23:45

Christopher Cooper

Indians had been fighting British rule for over a century by the time Gandhi came along.

July 25, 2016 - 23:46

Bentley Perry

Thanks user, noting that down.

July 25, 2016 - 23:48

Ian Gonzalez

Yes but the results had the effect of isolating them and perpetuating their mistreatment.

Also I like the 2nd article's narrative a bit better, even though it doesn't negate your point, it shows there's a lot we can't say for certain about his motives.

Things I've read in the past seem to suggest he was far more mean spirited towards dalits than people care to remember; such as in taht 1st article.

idsn.org/key-issues/forced-prostitution/

But, there's still hope. A Dalit can still transcend their class and become touchable by being sold into prostitution. However they've always had that right, but yet it remains one of their few safety nets outside of government assistance.

This is sickening and disturbing, but is the only way they can escape absolute mistreatment short of leaving India.

July 25, 2016 - 23:49

Gavin Nelson

Ok?

July 25, 2016 - 23:49

Eli Morris

How so?

Untouchability & Brahmins thinking they're better than everyone is a fact today, still. We can't expect things to be perfect. But views have been changing slowly. It's been going on for thousands of years, so one pact wasn't going to get rid of it.

user, user.. Devadasi doesn't mean what it used to. Nowadays Devadasi are straight up prostitutes, mostly. It used to be a more respectable position(like 100 years ago), but it no longer is. These parents sell their daughter's virginity for dirt cheap to anyone who will pay.

The culture of being a dancer is still alive, but they aren't prostitutes, and it's usually Brahmins who are allowed to learn the skill in smaller towns.

Basically, classical dancers are separate from Devadasi, now. It's hard to explain, but there's Devadasi(prostitutes) & classical dancers, completely separate. The dancers are respected & usually Brahmin, the Devadasi are now usually lower caste - A quick buck for their parents & a sad life for the daughter.

July 26, 2016 - 00:00

Logan Cruz

Well you raise some valid points, and I thank you.

I still can't quite fathom Gandhi did more good than harm, but perhaps I need to rethink my understanding of his life and consider perhaps he wasn't the vile human I thought he was.

He was still an asshole to his one son, right?

July 26, 2016 - 00:11

Oliver Reyes

He also still definitely did that one newspaper job where he was pretty clearly terribly racist, but it was the 30s.

July 26, 2016 - 00:32

Alexander Hernandez

Thank to you, too, for the discussion. I really like the topic. I live in India now(I'm American), and I married a guy from a "lower" caste - Padayachi. It's a mixed bag with caste, and in South India they have it a lot better. E V Ramasamy(Periyar) led a Self-Respect movement in the South, if you haven't read about it, it's a great thing. Many people dropped their caste names. Periyar was also atheist.

Indian is great for revolutionists. Communism is accepted & even lauded here(Kerala for example). I love it here, tbh. Things are shut down all of the time, due to protests. Public buses were down just yesterday due to strike, lmao.

You're not alone. My SO used to feel the same, or that he was overrated, etc. He wasn't perfect, but he did some good. He opened a dialogue about many things.

But yeah, I've heard many weird things about him, too. Like that he used to sleep at night & ask his nieces to sleep naked next to him, to "practice"/make sure he wasn't being aroused or something, to see he was pure. All of this sounds crazy to us, but people think differently here about many things. He wasn't necessarily a saint, but he did do good which we should recognize. At least India is doing better than Pakistan, violence-wise… They went one way, Indians went another.

As far as devadasi & classical dance.. youtube.com/watch?v=AMotc9NQ9B8
Here's a good example of semi-classical dance. My favorite dancers - Padmini & Vyjayanthimala. I'm pretty sure both are Brahmin. Devadasi used to perform bharatanatyam dance for the noble people during their rule and it would resemble this: youtube.com/watch?v=DlfprSrsrCo

July 26, 2016 - 00:36

John Taylor

Disregard typos, I'm a little sleepy.

July 26, 2016 - 01:00

Jacob Watson

When Trump is elected, are you prepared to take the fight to him with militant action like a real anti-fascist?

July 26, 2016 - 01:01

Sebastian Jackson

So what happened in B████'s speech???
I fell asleep.

July 26, 2016 - 01:03

Nathaniel Mitchell

wtf

July 26, 2016 - 01:03

Cameron Wood

Yes.
Intelligence from our B████crat National Committee tells us that Soros is arming violent, direct action anarchist movements throughout the United States in preparation.

My melanin-enriched militia has received arms from both Putin and Soros in these past few weeks. Soon we will be able to take the battle to these proud patrio- I mean violent fascists!

Praise Zuul.

July 26, 2016 - 01:05

Mason Rogers

I say protest mixed with legislative activism/activities. Those who can should join the revolution B████'s started & sign up with him to run for office. Even with rigged processes, some of us will get through.

Really all you need is an online presence, too. It's a great way to get your message out there. People are voting against incumbents now, so we've got a good shot at influencing legislation.

July 26, 2016 - 01:09

Colton Lewis

Praise Zuul.

July 26, 2016 - 01:10

Caleb Allen

Well glad you've found a new home and are making the best of it- India is still a very dangerous place with horrific sexual abuse cases, which seem to happen so often in Pakistan.

As for Gandhi my focus has always been on his relationship with Dalits, but I have heard about the strange things he did, and even that he had an enema fetish.

Also he may have had some sleep related conditions.

Which makes me recall an anecdote from Dinesh Joseph D'Souza in which he claimed to have met Allen Ginsberg. According to him Ginsberg really liked India for the spiritualism (and the enemas ), though disregarded the presence of the caste system. D'Souza is a crazy asshole, but his perspective was sort of intriguing. Especially since he harnesses raw paranoia adequately in his most bullshit writings.

Thanks for the links.

What is your take on the Jat caste uprising last year?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jat_reservation_agitation

It seemed like a terrorist attack by a group looking for government benefits, and I just assumed they were well off compared to some groups due to them targeting a major water supply.

July 26, 2016 - 01:11

Evan Martinez

Ah, typo-

India is still a very dangerous place with horrific sexual abuse cases, but I never hear of acid attacks in India, which seem to happen so often in Pakistan.

July 26, 2016 - 01:14

Liam Turner

you should literally eat shit until you die

July 26, 2016 - 01:27

Adrian Evans

Democratic convention: S█████ caps off a day of deceit and demagogy
wsws.org/en/articles/2016/07/26/dems-j26.html
By Barry Grey
26 July 2016

B████ ██████ concluded his assigned task of seeking to corral mass anger and opposition in the working class behind the Democratic Party in the 2016 presidential election with a speech Monday night that capped off a day of political fraud and demagogy.

Earlier in the day, S█████ was booed down when he told a meeting of his delegates and supporters outside the Philadelphia convention hall that they had to take forward his “political revolution” by voting for Hillary Clinton. In response to the eruption of anger and disgust from his own periphery, S█████ declared cynically, “This is a real world we live in.”

He, of course, had done all in his power to ensure that this “real world” excluded the emergence of an independent movement of the working class against the increasingly hated capitalist system, and remained politically strangled by the domination of two right-wing, militaristic parties of the American corporate-financial aristocracy.

Developments prior to the formal opening of the convention already underscored the reactionary character of the campaign Hillary Clinton plans to wage and of the government she will head if she wins the election in November. In response to the exposure, via leaked emails, of the plotting of her allies in the leadership of the Democratic National Committee to subvert the primary challenge from S█████, Clinton’s aides charged, without providing any evidence, that Russia had masterminded the leak in order to place its supposed stooge, Donald Trump, in the White House.

This is part of an effort to outflank the fascistic Trump from the right by accusing him of being “soft” on Russian President Vladimir Putin and unwilling to attack Russia in defense of NATO allies on Russia’s western border, as well as being insufficiently aggressive in preparing for war against China.

The day also featured a fawning speech by Clinton to the national convention of the right-wing, pro-war Veterans of Foreign Wars in which Clinton lavished praised on Republican war hawk John McCain. The day before, President Obama had made clear the Democrats’ orientation to disaffected Republicans by praising a long list of past Republican officeholders in an interview on the “Face the Nation” television program. He topped this off by putting Ronald Reagan in the ranks of “America’s greatest presidents.”

In the course of Monday’s proceedings inside Wells Fargo Center, one after another representative of the well-off middle class rose to praise Clinton as a tireless fighter in behalf of equality and justice. The various strands of identity politics were on full display, with African-American, Hispanic, women, gay and disabled speakers taking turns in praising this widely hated symbol of the political establishment, who is personally implicated in war crimes that have killed millions and notorious for her corrupt relations with Wall Street.

But it was left to S█████ to complete the job of turning reality on its head and presenting Clinton and the Democratic Party as fighters for the interests of the common people. His speech was a display of unalloyed cynicism and dishonesty. To hear him speak, one would never know why he had opposed Clinton in the first place.

To attempt to enumerate all of the obvious falsehoods and contradictions in his speech would consume dozens of pages. It is sufficient at this point to note that were his glowing statements about Clinton true, his own campaign would be incomprehensible, as would the broad support it received. The basis for the 13 million votes about which he boasted in his remarks was the passionate desire of masses of working people and youth for an alternative to the reactionary policies with which Clinton has been associated for more than three decades.

Sanders’ exercise in political fraud seemed to be premised on the assumption that the American people suffer from collective amnesia. But facts are facts. The last time the Clintons occupied the White House they presided over a period of unprecedented financial corruption.

The Bill Clinton administration was the period of “irrational exuberance,” when super-low interest rates underwrote a 400 percent rise in the stock market. All of the Clintons’ policies—the dismantling of Glass-Steagall and whatever else remained of banking regulations, the destruction of the federal welfare program—led to a vast enrichment of the corporate-financial elite. It was the period that produced Enron and the explosion in CEO pay. All of the processes that led to the financial collapse and depression of 2008 matured under the Clintons.

July 26, 2016 - 01:41

Wyatt Butler

For all of S█████’ denunciations of Trump, the fact remains that the billionaire real estate mogul’s political rise was possible only because of mass disillusionment and frustration with the Democratic Party’s hypocrisy and right-wing policies.

One thing that was particularly striking about S█████’ speech was the absence of a single reference to foreign policy. He said not a word about Clinton’s role as senator in backing the 2003 invasion and occupation of Iraq or her role as secretary of state in championing the savage bombing of Libya and murder of its ruler Muammar Gaddafi, as well as the horrific bloodletting in Syria in pursuit of regime change and the increasingly aggressive warmongering toward both China and Russia.

Sanders had the gall to present his full-throated backing for Clinton (“Hillary Clinton will make an outstanding president and I am proud to stand with her tonight”) as the continuation of his “political revolution” against the “billionaire class.” That so-called “revolution” turned out to consist of putting a Democrat back in the White House, accompanied by a Democratic House and Senate. S█████ was silent on the decision of the Clinton campaign to give the multibillionaire former Republican mayor of New York, Michael Bloomberg, a prime-time spot on Wednesday night to declare his own support for Clinton.

Not only S█████, but all of the various middle-class organizations—the International Socialist Organization, Socialist Alternative, Solidarity, and the Green Party—that promoted him are now politically responsible for the consequences.

The political lessons of the S█████ experience must be learned. As has happened so often before, the Democratic Party has become the graveyard of a movement of social protest, with S█████ serving as the undertaker. The warnings repeatedly issued by the Socialist Equality Party and the World Socialist Web Site, which insisted that S█████ was not the representative of a movement of social revolt, but rather the instrument for containing and dissipating that movement, have been fully borne out.

The campaign of the Socialist Equality Party and its presidential and vice presidential candidates Jerry White and Niles Niemuth is the only campaign in this election that is genuinely independent of capitalist politics and advances a revolutionary socialist program.

July 26, 2016 - 01:41

Benjamin Turner

Come on, user is so cute with their liberal reformist garbage.

July 26, 2016 - 01:43

Cooper Smith

Yes. It's got negatives & positives. Positives for me personally is now being able to eat properly(couldn't afford to in the US), access to healthcare, less stress and a strong family unit. Negatives are that I had to change a lot of my behavior in public. I used to dress however I wanted, now I wear sarees, churidar, etc. It's been damn hot & I wanted to wear shorts - no go. I can't smoke in public, or let in-laws know I smoke. I do smoke cigs in public, but I have to hide it. You can't smoke in front of cops(it's considered very disrespectful) or elders.

Have you seen "India's Daughter"? It was banned here, I torrented it, but got physically ill halfway through when they were describing the damage she sustained. Fucking horrible man. I never finished that movie..

There's a big difference between North & South here. In the North, it's where you get more strict attitudes. It's also closer to Pakistan.. Sure, there are people here in the South that are strict, but tensions seem higher up North. People are more open minded in the South. It's where a lot of movements are started.

Acid attacks, I haven't heard much about here, but have heard more of in Pakistan as you mention. In India, a common tool for attack is the sickle. Just the other day I heard on the news a bride's family tracked her & her groom down at a bus stop & basically hacked the groom to death. You also always see the "tough guy" in movies with a sickle. Many are agriculturalists, so it's a common tool as well.

But - I haven't personally seen anything bad since I've been here. I just have to use common sense & be aware. I don't go much out alone ever, since I don't know this place well enough yet. But since I've been here, I've loved it. I don't want people to get the wrong impression. Day to day life is peaceful for many people. My in-laws are from the countryside, and it's beautiful there. The people are wonderful; always so nice, always wanting to help & loving. A real sense of community here that I didn't have in the US, and that's also not common in the US.

Ah hahaha. I didn't recognize his name, but know who he is now that I saw his picture. He's so full of shit.. He's featured on the Drunken Peasants & Rightwing Watch a lot. I honestly expect more from an Indian, being that his country has so many issues with poverty.. But hey, he's found a hustle, I guess.

From what I've read, it seems they were taking advantage. It may be them trying to get their foot in the door to the government. Very unfortunate, since many actually need this help they're seeking.

This is a big thing atm. And it's playing itself out in the Parliament. Modi is basically like India's Trump. He's a Hindu-nationalist, so the people in parliament reflect that, and speak against these uprisings. They want things to be traditional, so they want these lower castes in their place. Communists are speaking out against the government, and a lot of students are as well.

The affirmative action here is a great thing, but the Brahmins of course don't see it that way. They're fighting for equality, and those at the top don't want that. They give the usual arguments, and a lot of it is similar to US politics as well. Compared to the US, affirmative action is much more necessary here. You see it most often in schooling. They have a lottery for lower castes, and it's how they get into college.

July 26, 2016 - 01:46

Connor Kelly

Apologies for blogpost. I'm very bored, guys.

July 26, 2016 - 01:46

John Perry

Good summation. Anyone smart enough to vote for B████ shouldn't be fooled by Crooked Hillary.

July 26, 2016 - 01:47

Levi Young

Ahh, I always wanted to achieve that in life- someday.

They say it used to be unacceptable for women to smoke in the U.S. until Ed Bernays was able to link it to the suffragette movement and declare cigs "torches of freedom."

No, though I once caught a bit of "Rape in Africa" on tv years ago, that was brutal. They were performing surgeries on victims of unheard of acts- it's hard to believe anyone could physically recover from that.

This I didn't know of, fascinating.

But yeah, I would advise no one take the chance of walking alone in India even if the South is more laid back in comparison. Any group less than three people just feels like tempting fate.

Yeah, things just aren't right in the West, there's very little human kindness left.

He's out there, and alt-right people like him because his name sounds "ethnic" enough. I got partway through one of his books (America Imagine a World Without Her) and I just couldn't finish it. He made a handful of interesting statements out of several hundred, but I just couldn't stick with his paranoid obsession with Obama- he's certainly found his niche though.

And yeah, he was raised by a rather well-to-do Catholic family which might explain some of the disconnect he'd have with India.

If I recall correctly they sabotaged a major waterway, leaving millions without drinking water for more than a day. The military was called in, I'm surprised the government capitulated.

And it seems like the actions of the Jat made things more difficult for everyone.

July 26, 2016 - 02:15

Joshua Ward

Mfw B████ went full shill for Hill.

How much did Hill Dog threaten his family?

July 26, 2016 - 05:41

Christopher Bennett

Abby Martin was arrested yesterday for no reason. I bet the pigs just wanted to cop a feel.

July 26, 2016 - 05:43

Jackson Jones

no

July 26, 2016 - 05:45

Asher Cox

Source? And why was Jill Stein arrested again?

July 26, 2016 - 06:36

John Hill

You have no-one to blame but yourselves.

Bernie needed your help, but did you campaign for him? Did you spread the word of his revolution? Did you mobilize the working class to his message?

No, you didn't. You sat on your board and shit-posted when he was out on the front-lines. You waited for him to lead the way instead of following his example. Now he has to endorse a corrupt candidate if he ever wants to make the future he wants for all of you a reality. You didn't lend him your strength, Holla Forums.

Through your inaction, you've stymied your own revolution. Now you have to watch your comrade compromise with the very forces he was fighting because you didn't lend a hand. Your outrage over this is disgustingly selfish and shows just how little you were invested in the struggle, you bourgeois armchair revolutionaries.

July 26, 2016 - 06:55

Jack Stewart

She threatened the future of this country.

July 26, 2016 - 06:59

Luis Stewart

how has hillary or trump not been shot yet 🤔

July 26, 2016 - 07:01

Kevin Watson

twitter.com/Nancyry/status/757935498023305216

THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN.

This should make DWS even more salty.

July 26, 2016 - 07:02

Grayson Richardson

Most of us aren't even American.

July 26, 2016 - 07:06

Logan Harris

HIJACK AUSGEFÜHRT

NATO CAN SUCK IT

SNIVELLING CRUZ BTFO

BUSHS AT HOME IN REPTILIAN FORM; SULKING

GLASS-STEAGAL NOW ON REPUBLICAN PROGRAM

AM I FUCKING SHERMED SOMEBODY PINCH ME

Very sad, downright low energy frankly, this place is starting to remind me of reddit.

Sad.

July 26, 2016 - 07:08

Daniel Bennett

Considering how corrupt the media was, I wonder if that was the first time many Americans heard S█████ speak.

July 26, 2016 - 07:11

Jace Hernandez

Bernie needed 10 year work rehabilitation in Siberia for racist propaganda, anti-socialist slogans, and collaboration with capitalist scum.

July 26, 2016 - 07:13

Austin Diaz

plebbit autism
reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4umz96/we_are_closing_rsandersforpresident/?st=ir3jtmmt&sh=8d2aa931

July 26, 2016 - 07:21

Hudson Wood

This has got to be satire, so much leddit i cant even

you actually think B████ was some kind of socialist instead of the establishment tool that he always was?

Anyone that was paying attention knew he was going to turn and support crooked hillary, it was written on the wall if you bothered to actually look at his voting record instead of wanking and smoking cannabis through your "feel the bern" ceramic pipe you fucking hippie

now all the money and effort of a bunch of good but ultimately stupid people will end up with the hoofed one, and frankly faggots like you are partially at fault

the only one taking his treason with some…"class" (oy vey loaded term round these parts) is the the Trumpinator, inviting sad, lost bern supporters to come in from the cold and have a jacket

If you are really still buying into the mainstream left-right paradigm in our day and age I question your mental health, and wonder if you should even be allowed to operate a motor vehicle

The only fucking thing that matters is that there is still a chance the Trump is actually an outsider, and that he will stir shit up and put a kink in the colon of the neocon establishment, who are the fuckers that really control both sides of the US political circus.

so far he has done an amazing job at undermining them, he hzas played high level holdem and left them confused and stackless, the similarities with putin are undeniable although the circumstances are of course very different

fuckin a, this is why I like you smelly bearded ACTUAL commies, a lot of you know whats up

July 26, 2016 - 07:22

Evan Nguyen

I can see we're in for another three weeks of trolling and gnashing of teeth. Seems like a good time to take a break.

Vote with your conscience, Holla Forums.

July 26, 2016 - 07:36

Charles Bell

what is that even supposed to mean you wishy-washy western liberal coward?

July 26, 2016 - 07:37

Logan Reyes

Back to hell with you, murderous assassin of the working class!

July 26, 2016 - 07:38

Easton Ramirez

get a load of down syndrome Father Brown over here

where do I get highly developed detective skills like yours tovarishi, I am in awe

July 26, 2016 - 07:43

Jayden Morgan

Keep in mind: Gandhi was a religious fanatic. Not that different from modern-day ISIS (but different ideas, of course). That's what his "sainthood" is about. It's not sainthood of Mother Theresa.

It's recent Ted Cruz. He didn't endorse Trump, IIRC.

July 26, 2016 - 07:53

Aiden Green

of course, he just fuckin said that, my bad

I bet he thinks in his little delusional retard head that he is setting himself up for 2020, lul what a joke of a man.

I generally groan at the Trump=hitler comparison, but it is almost uncanny how he has subverted and undermined the republican party, hes played em all like a fiddle so far

July 26, 2016 - 08:01

Isaac Ward

Apparently the DNC rescheduled the roll call to early in the morning and didnt tell any barnie delegates

July 26, 2016 - 08:05

Josiah Brown

But downs is an extra chromossome

July 26, 2016 - 08:10

Grayson Reyes

are you fucking shitting me?

July 26, 2016 - 08:14

William Rodriguez

It didn't need to be his family tbh. That would be too obvious to normies. She could have threatened to have random black people assassinated every day. Very few people would notice and there's no obvious connection but B████ still cares about those people and doesn't want their blood on his conscience.

July 26, 2016 - 08:16

Aiden Foster

what the hell is assrange doing? where are the rest of the emails he promised?

July 26, 2016 - 08:18

Joshua Robinson

Maybe he's waiting to see how this roll call election goes.

July 26, 2016 - 08:20

Luke Ramirez

…good point

maybe hes looking for it because he wants it back so he can feel whole again

July 26, 2016 - 08:25

Lucas Baker

They probably wanted to intimidate someone who points out they're part of an oppressive global empire, and she's less physically threatening because she's a woman. I mean can you imagine if several cops had to restrain a fully grown man? We can't expect our Boys in Blue™ to face such danger!

July 26, 2016 - 08:36

Colton James

...

July 26, 2016 - 08:38

Leo Foster

Maybe he thinks that 47 is the right number of chromosomes and that most other people are missing one.

July 26, 2016 - 08:39

Camden Long

If I didnt like this place I wouldnt be here you passive-aggressive smarmy cunt

Butthurt B████bot detected. It hurts when something you believed in(due to lack of research, but still) turns out to be a lie, doesnt it? I know that feel, believe me, I do.

If you were somewhat mature you would face the facts, reevaluate your position, and make the most tactically advantageous decision that you can based on the circumstances+your present knowledge.

You dont seem to be doing that however. Very sad.

he might be right, people sure do seem to be missing something…

July 26, 2016 - 08:46

Camden Anderson

Oh, so you believed Trump wasn't a zionist stooge.

Hey, if Trump kissed the ring and Holla Forums still supports him, what does that mean for B████?

July 26, 2016 - 09:03

Xavier Thomas

"good enough" - Hilary '16

July 26, 2016 - 09:08

Xavier Kelly

Holla Forums isn't even trying at this point

July 26, 2016 - 09:10

Adam Wright

The initial leaks came out after Kaine was confirmed as the VP pick. Assange is clearly waiting for the roll call vote. He's only going to fuck her over AFTER she's confirmed as the candidate.

July 26, 2016 - 09:10

Nicholas Scott

"Anyone but Trump." - B████ ██████

July 26, 2016 - 09:12

Lincoln Ward

Why? I thought he liked B████. All this does is help Trump.

July 26, 2016 - 09:13

Michael Gutierrez

michaelmoore.com/trumpwillwin/

July 26, 2016 - 09:22

Isaiah Hughes

Yes.

July 26, 2016 - 09:30

Dylan Taylor

Im not unilaterally supporting Trump, I have looked into him and yes almost all of his statements about Israel are probably my biggest issue with him, along with the fact that we cant really know what he is going to do, he is in many ways a wildcard, oh and also some of the hilariously retarded things he has said

Obviously he went to suck dick at AIPAC but then again what prospective president hasnt, since AIPAC has existed in its present form?

Its always hard to tell if someone is being serious round these parts, poes law and all, so im just going to address you as if you were, heres why I do NOT think the zionists want a trump presidency:

Israel is #2 in foreign aid from the US, are they not? I dont even know the status of Egypt right now so they might even be #1, its almost 4 billion per anno, of course much of that goes right back into the MIC but we are still subsidizing the rabid israelis while detroit looks like, well detroit.

This would rustle all kinds of jimmies for an actual ziocon lunatic, there is no way they would want any of this, do you even read their policy papers? its not like they hide their intentions, although some of it might be disinfo

and heres the biggy really:

This is massive, its the most fundamental pivot trump has achieved by soft-putsching his way into the republican party, watching him shut down Jeb! over syria was probably the moment were i threw up my hands and said "fuck it!" i might vote for this guy. If you actually read shit like clean break, or the garbage that weekly standard rag puts out, or listened to any of the numerous neocon dual citizen mouthpieces floating around you would realize how monumental this is.

im not unilaterally supporting russia either by any means, but i think any sane human can agree that avoiding thermonuclear war or "limited humane nuclear engagement" as these fucking lunatics refer to it is a good thing

lastly almost as an afterthought GLASS_STEAGAL is now on the repub program holee-fuck-boys bizarro world somebody pinch me.

Now you could argue glass-steagal is a few generations too late and will be completely ineffective in our present day microwave-aided HFTrading psychoverse, and you might be right, but its still good and demonstrates another fundamental pivot, the fucking banker class needs to be shut down and this is the first step

Im not fucking pol you asshole, I dont even hate jews(that much)

July 26, 2016 - 09:33

Alexander Robinson

B████ ██████. Jill Stein.

July 26, 2016 - 09:35

Zachary Long

That's exactly how a Clinton campaign is going to work. She's just BARELY better than Trump. She's not going to get a flood of overwhelming popular support or anything. How she is now is how she's going to remain going into the general election. She's another John Kerry.

Sanders is going to be the only saving grace for the Democrats. Either the super delegates wise up and nominate him(which they won't) or he'll be pushing her and the rest of the Democrats into supporting issues voters want(which will get skepticism and distrust).

The Democrat's cronyism destroyed any chance for the White House this election, making Hillary a two-time loser.

This is so accurate that it's insulting that the Democrats are blind to this glaring problem. The Republicans are fucking MOTIVATED. They WANT that White House. Nobody is motivated for Hillary but grandmas and blacks.

Either you pick S█████ or you go crazy left. There is no middle ground in this election.

July 26, 2016 - 09:37

Michael Diaz

So everytime Trump posters come here can we tell them to go back to reddit?

reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/4uiq42/its_happening_donald_j_trump_the_man_the_legend/

July 26, 2016 - 09:37

Colton Edwards

when did puddly little overweight union-man turn into raging idpol?

I used to like this guy, roger&me hit me right in the feels

yeah but B████ is out, and stein doesnt have even a remote chance. Shes seems to be actually anti-war to her credit, but come on man might as well be voting for the nintendo wizard

heres the speech bern was gonna give at AIPAC, make of that what you will

mondoweiss.net/2016/03/read-the-speech-bernie-sanders-planned-to-give-to-aipac/

iirc he did make a pivot a few months ago, he spouted some very uneducated pro-israeli bs in a q&a and then someone apparently gave him an earful, his future statements about the topic were at least somewhat more nuanced

July 26, 2016 - 09:41

Brayden Turner

how about you actually address my statements and think about this insane mess logically instead of being such a herd animal?

the fucking trump reddit is frighteningly hilarious, I was over there yesterday, pure 4GMemefare

July 26, 2016 - 09:47

Jacob Howard

Why? I wasn't talking to you in the first place.
Conceited much.

July 26, 2016 - 09:48

Leo Wilson

The article is pretty interesting.

July 26, 2016 - 09:53

Jordan Ward

Don’t get me wrong. I have great hope for the country I live in. Things are better. The left has won the cultural wars. Gays and lesbians can get married. A majority of Americans now take the liberal position on just about every polling question posed to them: Equal pay for women – check. Abortion should be legal – check. Stronger environmental laws – check. More gun control – check. Legalize marijuana – check. A huge shift has taken place – just ask the socialist who won 22 states this year. And there is no doubt in my mind that if people could vote from their couch at home on their X-box or PlayStation, Hillary would win in a landslide.

But that is not how it works in America. People have to leave the house and get in line to vote. And if they live in poor, Black or Hispanic neighborhoods, they not only have a longer line to wait in, everything is being done to literally stop them from casting a ballot. So in most elections it’s hard to get even 50% to turn out to vote. And therein lies the problem for November – who is going to have the most motivated, most inspired voters show up to vote? You know the answer to this question. Who’s the candidate with the most rabid supporters? Whose crazed fans are going to be up at 5 AM on Election Day, kicking ass all day long, all the way until the last polling place has closed, making sure every Tom, Dick and Harry (and Bob and Joe and Billy Bob and Billy Joe and Billy Bob Joe) has cast his ballot? That’s right. That’s the high level of danger we’re in. And don’t fool yourself — no amount of compelling Hillary TV ads, or outfacting him in the debates or Libertarians siphoning votes away from Trump is going to stop his mojo.

Here are the 5 reasons Trump is going to win:

July 26, 2016 - 09:53

Jose Martin

...

July 26, 2016 - 09:54

Christian Murphy

And you know what, now that young voters are depressed, resulting in a lack of a fuck given toward the election of Hillary, when Hillary loses, those Hillary Shills will fucking blame them for Trump's victory. They haven't just alienated a bunch of voters, they're going to keep alienating them.

This shit with the democrats is going to last for fucking years.

July 26, 2016 - 09:54

Nathaniel Bailey

While this is rather insulting, it's pretty accurate. A lot people feel they've lost control of their nation and feel threatened.

July 26, 2016 - 09:56

Noah Edwards

...

July 26, 2016 - 09:57

Joseph Edwards

Part 4 is here

July 26, 2016 - 09:58

Jackson Clark

>facebook.com/claudia.stauber/videos/10208783021785863/
wew

July 26, 2016 - 10:01

Liam Rogers

QUICKLY CHOOSE YOUR CONVENTIONFU IMMEDIATELY

July 26, 2016 - 10:02

Nolan Torres

not really, you are acting like a sorry excuse for a human bean, i dotn fucking care if you were talking to me, you said something stupid, you arent using your brain, tis unworthy of these hallowed halls

sorry for calling you out on being a faggot, i hope i didnt hurt your fee-fees

July 26, 2016 - 10:05

Jason King

No shit. The only hope the Democrats have in the future is S█████, but I don't think he's going to make out of this mess alive. The longer he stays with Hillary, the more damaged he becomes.

Those platform concessions won't matter shit when nobody believes in the future you want to create.

July 26, 2016 - 10:06

Angel Young

It's a joke, cunt. Seems more like I hurt yours.

July 26, 2016 - 10:09

Asher Howard

Maybe he's blackmailing the delegates. If they don't nominate B████ with the roll call, he'll kill Hillary's chances for the White House.

July 26, 2016 - 10:11

Nathaniel Thompson

I don't even know what to say anymore, Holla Forums still thinks Birdie Sandman is a cool, principled guy, even when he turns his back on his supporters and calls them to vote for Hillary.

He has less balls than fucking Ted Cruz. And here Holla Forums still defends the guy as a Saint.

Is this the famous Stockholm Syndrome?

July 26, 2016 - 10:12

Justin Torres

...

July 26, 2016 - 10:12

Levi Scott

Even without the DNC meddling B████ lost a majority. This is just how this works. It won't cost her the election either, if the election is lost to Trump, it has to do with many other factors. This being a minor one implying American citizens vote purely on reason alone, in which they do not. One need look farther than Trump.

It's entirely time to give up DemSoc reformism as your savior. It won't get anything done, and you'll lose every time. It's pipe dream party politics.

July 26, 2016 - 10:13

Zachary Ortiz

Do you know how a state Democracy works? He lost so he has to do this.

July 26, 2016 - 10:14

Brandon Roberts

npr.org/2016/07/26/487482035/sanders-will-nominate-clinton-ahead-of-dnc-roll-call
pls stop

July 26, 2016 - 10:14

Leo Fisher

Ted Cruz lost too and he didn't endorse Trump.

Birdie's whole life is just toeing party line.

July 26, 2016 - 10:15

Ayden Cruz

Don't ask europoors to understand how American Democracy works. They barely know how to vote.

Cruz also thinks he's Jesus Christ.

July 26, 2016 - 10:15

Camden Martinez

That's because Ted Cruz is a fucking idiot. He didn't have to show up to announce he wasn't supporting Trump.

July 26, 2016 - 10:16

Eli Butler

This also means Cruz has more balls than Sandman.

Nobody takes Sandman seriously after this, when he calls for everyone to support Clinton and pretends she's the goddamn leader.

July 26, 2016 - 10:17

Liam Harris

No it just means he's stupid and lost his base as much as S█████ just did. American Politics isn't about courage, and the problems of America and its politics aren't courage.

Who is the "nobody"? What does it consist of? Disenfranchised voters? Buddy, they've existed as long as there's been this shit hole.

You have to understand he didn't have this election stolen, in many states more people just voted for Clinton. The election was manipulated to an extent, however, he still lost. Regardless of "fairness"

I'm not defending anyone I hate all parties involved. I'm just telling you not to be so naive.

July 26, 2016 - 10:20

Christopher Evans

If Clinton thinks that shit will work in 2016, she's even more retarded than originally thought.

July 26, 2016 - 10:21

Oliver Sanchez

Ted Cruz will remain with principles and some people will still support him, more than Sandman does.

Sandman just slaps his fan in the face. He lost, and he toed the party line like a loser.

If naivity means you keep your principles, then I would rather be naive.

July 26, 2016 - 10:23

Nathaniel Hughes

This seems mostly accurate but hes acting like its a bad thing, it isnt, theres a small chance trump might actually go full roosevelt and fix some shit

fucking addressed this- its pathetic - and very sad- mikey has fallen oh so hard on his head

REEEEE DISCARDED

doesnt mean anything in our day and age, we are surrounded by a menagerie of facism. The rest of it is accurate imo

this is pretty on point, haw haw…also Jesse wasnt that bad as a guvna certainly not a disaster like schwarzinigger. Anyhow mikeys right, hes gonna win, and its the best alternative.

How was that a joke, you just avoided answering. You didnt hurt my fee fees, but i dont like being called arroganti probably am

July 26, 2016 - 10:23

Kayden Morgan

Yeah, Cruz told Trump to fuck off because he thought it was bullshit he wasn't nominated. Big balls right there. Sure it'll cost his constituents in Texas as nothing he does as a Senator will ever be accomplished, seeing as he's pissed off the entire Republican party, thus negating everything he fought for, but hey, he's got balls.

July 26, 2016 - 10:24

Logan Morris

The problem I have is that I feel the Democratic nomination was manipulated enough for Clinton to have EVERY advantage over S█████ and she still struggled. I feel like if the DNC played fair with the two candidates, S█████ would have swept Clinton up exactly like Obama did in 2008. It's easy to win the nomination when you've already won the establishment over.

July 26, 2016 - 10:24

Mason White

Yeah, time to go start another worker's revolution that will either be crushed by bullets or succeed only to collapse under the weight of its own ideological decay when it inevitably goes to shit in 50 years!

It's all bullshit. You're just the last bastion of another dying movement, an endless assortment littering the right and the left and dragging both down under the weight of their effluence.

Dogma is for dogs.

July 26, 2016 - 10:24

Joshua Anderson

yeah hes delusional, he thinks hes paving the road for 2020, thats the only possible reason for him actually going there

July 26, 2016 - 10:25

Thomas Moore

That sure has more balls than Sandman, who was reduced from anti-Clinton position into becoming her little doggy.

July 26, 2016 - 10:25

Thomas Gonzalez

On the other hand, if B████ threw the towel in like that we can assume that he always was a phony, so no loss there.

To get up so high as Sandie in politics would mean owing favors to a shitton of people. Had he gotten elected, he still couldn't have done anything, he would have been bound the same way he is now having to do this charade.

July 26, 2016 - 10:25

Luis Young

This fucking naivety to how voter bases work.

Most of his "fans" (and you bitch about problems in politics and use words like "fans" to denote political support), are going to vote for Clinton when it comes down to it anyways.

So it isn't like he is.

Naivety does not mean lose your "principles", it's naivety. Saying you support DemSoc reformism is naivety. Everything you're saying is basically naivety.

July 26, 2016 - 10:26

Kayden Morgan

Much as with Bush v. Gore, I believe history will prove otherwise.

He's never even been a Democrap before this election, has spent his life being the furthest left in his position, and is too damned old for selling out to make any sense at this point in his life. I think he hasn't been aggressive enough this election, to be sure, but there has to be some rational explanation for what he's doing.

July 26, 2016 - 10:26

Jace Wright

When did I say violence?

Stop talking in melodramatics and we can actually talk.

Then stop shitting like a dog for Democrats.

July 26, 2016 - 10:27

Nathaniel Bailey

Politics.

July 26, 2016 - 10:27

Logan Barnes

This is Holla Forums

July 26, 2016 - 10:28

Michael Peterson

Or they are going to not vote, vote for Jill Stein or vote for Trump.

Sandman "fans" aren't actually democrat loyalists.
Naivety keeps your principles, not losing it.
So when will you start an armed revolution?

July 26, 2016 - 10:28

Andrew Long

It's a joke on a few levels
1st) Trump is having an AMA on reddit
2nd) Telling people to go back somewhere is something Trump is fond of
3rd) Calling people redditors on a chan is not only a meme, but it's effective to produce the exact response only a redditor could come up with ("I'm not mad, you're mad and I'll prove it by replying to you how not mad I am.")

July 26, 2016 - 10:28

Justin Edwards

Why? Because I don't like how Sandman acts and thinks he's reduced to a fucking coward?

July 26, 2016 - 10:29

Parker Lewis

He lost his outsider cred now that he joins the party and calls his loyal fans to vote for Clinton.

He isn't an outsider anymore, just another party stooge.

July 26, 2016 - 10:29

Joshua Parker

Yes. But that's clearly not going to be a majority.

No. Naivety kills strategy. Naivety is not a compliment about "keeping principles". It's an insult targeting your own short sitedness, arrogance, ignorance of topics etc.

I won't. There never needs to be an armed revolution.

July 26, 2016 - 10:30

Hunter Bell

Are you sure? Statistics?
Then your insult fails, because toeing party line gets nothing done. It's exactly that naiviey that keeps people flocking to you.
So what are you gonna do?

July 26, 2016 - 10:32

William Jackson

and now you dissected the joke. Jokes are kinda like frogs.

Also reddit is great, whats everybodies problem with redditfine ill admit it, I glanced over the irony of telling angry polacks to go back to reddit

July 26, 2016 - 10:33

Anthony Walker

The fact you need to ask for a "statistics" source is damning.

And so does reformism. There's a reason B████ lost. You need to stop being naive.

Do what everyone who's actually a radical and committed to this is doing and actually coming up with strategy to make collectivism worked using the strengths of the internet for commune.

Not thinking votes are important or can change shit in the American political system.

It's time to stop being offended and what's expected and expect what is expected.

July 26, 2016 - 10:35

Jordan Gray

Problem with reddit? Personally, I hate the UI. Saw a few threads and how clunky their system was and just noped out of it. Plus, I'd prefer to have reaction images right next to a reply.

July 26, 2016 - 10:36

John Hall

So no sources?
Trump started out lesser than S█████ and now he's fucking beating Clinton, all he ever did was never apologizing and toeing party line.
So you are an internet activist? That's not being a radical.
So you can't be mad at Sandman for becoming a party stooge? No, even Holla Forums hasn't expected this and didn't believe it until Sandman comes out and actually endorses Hillary.

July 26, 2016 - 10:37

Blake Stewart

Because he thinks he can force Hillary and the democrats do whats best for the country since they need his support to have a chance against Trump. Look at these poll numbers. He is fucking GOD compared to Hillary.

Unfortunately, I don't think he took into account how incredibly toxic Hillary. Trying to get her into the White House would be an almost Sisyphean endeavor.

July 26, 2016 - 10:38

Carter Gonzalez

Heres something i guess
twitter.com/abcpolitics/status/757944710585606144

July 26, 2016 - 10:40

Nicholas Clark

He can't force Hillary to do shit when he fucking calls people to vote for her.

Such delusion.

A God doesn't betray their own worshipers.

July 26, 2016 - 10:41

Joseph Ward

My source is knowing a majority of American voters don't give a solid shit and don't vote on reasoning and not having this be the first election I've experienced. Shouldn't be yours either.

So Trump is what we're aiming for now? As collectivists? Is this how low you've fallen?

No. I am not an "internet activist". Explain what an "internet activist is".

It's getting more done and putting into practice praxis and theory and not being stupid enough to rely on the Democratic Party in America to actually get shit done.

I mean honestly how can anyone be this naive about reformism. It's a pipe dream.

Yes. If you want reformism, you cannot get angry at S█████. Your problem is you don't enjoy politics and yet you want reformism. The two are incompatible.

That's not my (or anyone remotely serious), problem. That's just DemSocs doing what DemSocs do best in thinking fighting against broken system within the broken system JusWorks™

July 26, 2016 - 10:43

Chase Powell

So no sources, just anecdotes.
Trump is beating Clinto while the Sandman can't, so yes, Sandman should learn from Trump.
A dude who posts shit on the internet and pretends he's doing something.
What have you getting "done"?
I can get angry at S█████ for being a coward weak-willed piece of shit, yes.
That's Holla Forums's problem, you are not the sole poster of Holla Forums.

July 26, 2016 - 10:46

Colton Green

So the way i understand it is you get shit done, and you know how to make good deals..

But who are you voting for? or do you think voting is pointless?

I tend

to agree

about remformism

July 26, 2016 - 10:48

Gavin Brown

Do you think a majority of Democratic voters arent going to vote Democrat because someone sold out?

So, like you? More than I?

Probably more than voting in a broken system to fix a broken system, and working to do more than a "violent revolution" in America.

Then you're not going to enjoy life much if you get angry at American politics like everything here is new and offensive.

This shouldn't come as surprise to anyone at all. You should be built in use to this by now.

Neither are you. You can't tell other posts not to get angry at DemSocs.

July 26, 2016 - 10:49

Christian Roberts

the fact that you didn't see Bern endorsing her coming is a testament to your naivete
Anyone who actually pays attention to American politics knew S█████ would fall in line

July 26, 2016 - 10:52

Christopher Adams

Sandman supporters aren't even majority democrats, there's no statistics regarding them.
I don't pretend I get anything done, I'm just another internet user.
So what have you getting done?
I can enjoy life and being anger at shit, thank you, especially when outsider Sandman has less balls than a Evangelical.
I would entertain your point if Trump did not become the Republican candidate, but he did it while Sandman failed.
A lot of people here are angry at this Sandman business, just that they figure out if they whine too much, then it's over for leftism.

July 26, 2016 - 10:53

William Hill

Even if it was, could it be that he's right?

July 26, 2016 - 10:53

Andrew Collins

If Ted Cruz does not fall in line, so can Sandman.

Plenty of republicans do not endorse Trump either, but I guess the Sandman HAS to.

July 26, 2016 - 10:54

Adam Bennett

In fact, I think the democrat party is pretty shitty.

The republican is actually more independent, with their NeverTrump even if it's failed.

There's no NeverHillary campaign at all.

July 26, 2016 - 11:00

Ryan White

But there's been a NeverBernie campaign since election started.

July 26, 2016 - 11:06

Colton Turner

Trump is the party's nominate.

What's Birdie?

That guy who lost to Hillary?

July 26, 2016 - 11:08

Elijah Ortiz

Don't forget the voter suppression and election fraud.

July 26, 2016 - 11:11

Julian Jones

The DNC is so dumb holy shit, putting the finger on the scale of the worst Democratic candidate in a century who's already losing to a fucking proto-fascist in the polls with months to go before the elections.

July 26, 2016 - 11:13

Brayden Price

And stacking ballots from likely Shillary voters first in counts.

July 26, 2016 - 11:13

Jose Cruz

seriously this, despite light banter between them they are practically identical, voting record-wise S█████ has towed the dem line 96% of the time, he had 30ish votes where he variated from hilldog and although some of them look substantial they arent

Im not trying to shit on people that thought S█████ was the truth but he never was, and a cursory look under the hood would have toadaso

July 26, 2016 - 11:14

Aaron Gutierrez

Are you blind or stupid? Last web poll I saw (roughly 150K participants) a full 2/3 or so S█████ supporters said they would be getting behind Jill Stein if Hillary gets the nomination.

July 26, 2016 - 11:16

Caleb Ortiz

Stop abusing terms you don't understand. Grow a pair of balls and call him a fascist if you think he's a fascist. Don't half ass it like the floppy vagina you may well be.

"oh you're ALMOST A FASCIST AHAHA take that!"

Couldn't get more passive-aggressive tbh. Call someone a fascist or don't.

July 26, 2016 - 11:17

Luke Green

...

July 26, 2016 - 11:18

Henry Bell

That's not a campaign, that's a poll.

NeverTrump has an actual campaign with stickers and propaganda.

July 26, 2016 - 11:19

Evan Cox

The entire DNC is putting on a gigantic recreation of the 2008 election where the RIGHT candidate won.

July 26, 2016 - 11:20

Adrian White

Okay, like the floppy vagina you are IRL.

How does a labia control a mouse?

July 26, 2016 - 11:21

Joshua Stewart

in hindsight he wasn't all that 'right' tbh

July 26, 2016 - 11:21

Austin Kelly

Alright he is a fascist. Sorry, user. I actually came back from a months long absence from the board, just to read the threads on the DNC. It seems like the time I spent off-board had a bad influence to me.

July 26, 2016 - 11:23

Easton Hall

No, stupid. The establishment wanted Hillary but Obama stomped the fuck out of her because he's not a robot. Now they're playing it again, this time with the candidate they really want.

July 26, 2016 - 11:24

Grayson Evans

I like how you are too fucking dumb to understand that you're arguing with a Trump supporter, and also a classist shit head that does not understand the importance of local politics.

July 26, 2016 - 11:25

Xavier Flores

I'd argue #BernieOrBust has had even more public exposure.

July 26, 2016 - 11:25

Henry Thomas

BernieorBust is brutally suppressed by the party.

It was never endorsed by another big party talker, unlike NeverTrump.

July 26, 2016 - 11:28

Eli Perez

What is the Streisand effect

Controlling information in 2016 is counter productive, and the democrats will experience a 'tea party' effect in 2020 if they can't rally this election around Clinton in time. Cracks are already starting to broaden in what was once a stable Democratic boat. It won't hurt their election prospects this cycle, but it will be a problem in the future.

Big problem with NeverTrump is that it's widely seen as a big joke, and nobody liked Cruz as much as people liked S█████.

July 26, 2016 - 11:32

Logan Collins

I wonder how many votes for Cruz in comparison with S█████.

NeverTrump has more fraction than B████orBust.

July 26, 2016 - 11:34

Leo Lopez

Hopefully the movement [REDACTED] awakened can survive to split off from him whole and create the leftist Tea Party we need to crush neoliberalism.

July 26, 2016 - 11:35

Colton Price

He already lost control of his supporters.

His supporters support the idealized Sandman, not the democrat stooge.

July 26, 2016 - 11:39

Cameron Brown

no I mean that from a liberal perspective he's not the president they expected him to be

July 26, 2016 - 11:40

Juan Wood

Hillary is both stupid and arrogant, so I doubt they'll be able to prevent that from happening. Hillary herself is the biggest liability the Democrats have right now.

Sanders got 48% of the Democratic electorate. How much did Cruz get?

July 26, 2016 - 11:40

Henry Walker

Whose "they"? The establishment? He was exactly the President they wanted him to be, a do nothing Liberal.

With the way this election went, I'm not too sure Hillary and DWS weren't controlling Obama's actions as well.

July 26, 2016 - 11:42

Caleb Evans

the people who voted for him
He was supposed to be the 'left' candidate
ended up not being all that during his presidency

July 26, 2016 - 11:47

Henry Martinez

I hate idpol so much.

July 26, 2016 - 11:50

Jacob Gray

No one actually thinks reformism will work you fucking idiot. Change comes from the ground up, if you can't see why using a outlet let a political party or a political movement to spread socialist ideas(coops etc) and to organize people to fight for rights or protest then sorry, you're an awful socialist(or a liberal idiot).

The only other way you will get a revolution is by a violent one, which is something you say does not need to happen either. Really, if anyone is fucking naive it is you, for thinking you can say the working class are completely worthless, avoiding class politics, and thinking somehow you are going to bring on any kind of socialism by being a whiny cunt on the internet.

July 26, 2016 - 11:54

Jacob Fisher

Oh shid, slick willie's on today

July 26, 2016 - 11:55

Michael Barnes

Hello, CTR

You still don't realize it was S█████' doings that exposed Hillary to the democrat electorate more than the conservatives could over the past 20 years. And S█████ did it within a year.

I didn't like Hillary before. Now I fucking despise her. He at least helped many dems to become better informed & prompted the DNC's fall from grace, so to speak, they were never graceful.

July 26, 2016 - 11:59

Hudson Myers

The only white person in America is Donald J. Trump.

July 26, 2016 - 12:02

Henry Rodriguez

The working class doesn't like communism. You have to convince them. And they're not interested in class politics in a way that doesn't suit their own national interests, or worse, in a way that cannot be subverted and manipulated for other people's needs.

America isn't interested in class politics, it's interested in the type of class politics wrapped and sweet and nice from movies and television with populist messages they remember and internalized from when they were children.

Sooner or later you're going to have to realize the way we've been going about this won't be able to survive into the 21st century, so we have to adapt.

The only way to do this, to some extent, is to use the internet to create a commune that doesn't involve the weaknesses of physical space.

July 26, 2016 - 12:04

Grayson Moore

We believe in the platform he puts forward. I'm disappointed in S█████ for getting behind Hillary.

I hope there are riots tonight on the floor & outside. Let's have a show at least if we get fucked.

July 26, 2016 - 12:04

David Johnson

Exactly. Let it all burn, the whole wicked institution.

July 26, 2016 - 12:07

Gavin Reyes

The platform's nice, but I don't think Hillary will actually implement any of it.

July 26, 2016 - 12:08

Kevin Gutierrez

Only Democracy Now and The Young Turks would consider such a riot anything other than a "terrorist act".

When the media actively conspires to keep the public ignorant of real issues, democracy becomes a joke.

July 26, 2016 - 12:08

Grayson Ramirez

Yes, let's waste the amount of resources Capital has provided to subvert to our own interests to spread to all working people, and instead burn it all down because we're angry.

Brilliant strategy. Only Americans can come with a dream for the future so poorly thought through.

July 26, 2016 - 12:09

Ian Bennett

there will be a riot on the night of the final election, and it will be one of those big, violent ones, not a liberal peace march for the fucking turtles or something

It will be in every city, it will happen no matter who wins, and we in the left need to gather together the betrayed B████fags and inspire them with dialectical vigor for a new cause.

Seize those means before the pigs seize you.

July 26, 2016 - 12:14

Julian Peterson

reminder that if you respond to someone using the anfem flag you're responding to an avowed shitposter

July 26, 2016 - 12:15

Andrew Ortiz

No more shitposter than anyone here. Less actually.

July 26, 2016 - 12:16

Kayden Wilson

If you've already lost faith in the government, putting a flaming bag of Trump poop in the White House seems like a great idea.

July 26, 2016 - 12:18

Gavin Cooper

Bernie-or-busters were loud last night. But 9 of 10 S█████ supporters are open to voting for Clinton.

vox.com/2016/7/26/12284960/bernie-sanders-voters-support-donald-trump-hillary-clinton

or some time, there has been a prevailing fear that B████ ██████ supporters will become Donald Trump converts, or turn to anti-establishment candidates like Jill Stein and Gary Johnson, instead of backing Hillary Clinton.

But according to new data from the Pew Research Center, 90 percent of the most ardent S█████ supporters — that is, those who have consistently stuck with him since the beginning of the election — will support Clinton in the general election.

Sanders did have committed supporters through the primary: Pew found that 20 percent supported S█████ from December 2015 to April 2016 (close to the end of the primaries).

But now that S█████’s hopes for a 2016 nomination have been dashed, his supporters have mostly gravitated toward Clinton.

The Pew study, which surveyed 2,353 Democratic voters, found that of this 20 percent, 90 percent now endorse Hillary Clinton. Only 8 percent support Donald Trump, and the remaining 2 percent are undecided.

July 26, 2016 - 12:19

Elijah Brown

Even so, you have to admit that many are disappointed with their options. If you were a state-brainwashed socdem who believed in voting power, you would have done the same despite your opinions.

Socdems need to understand what they could have. What I see is that 99% of $hillary support is based on the asssumption that she's the only choice.

July 26, 2016 - 12:23

Christopher Collins

I just dealt with this BS poll on reddit a minute ago. It's "out of 29% of "consistent" S█████ supporters, 90% of those will likely vote for Clinton".

A fraction of a fraction.

July 26, 2016 - 12:23

Jacob Rogers

(you)

July 26, 2016 - 12:24

Michael Rogers

WSWS was right again

July 26, 2016 - 12:24

Dylan Brooks

It isn't about "faith lost". First of all our politics should never be a game of faith, it should be a game of facts and evidence and truths. Second of all, supporting Trump to get into the white house has the same cons as supporting Clinton. Both want war in the Middle East and both want extended military presences in Africa. Both want Imperialism.

The differences is Trump knows how to work this all in a nationalist populist bow that makes a steamping pile of liberal shit look somewhat "clean" depending on who falls for it and who you talk to, but it's still a neoliberal pile of shit. That, and he's getting in office just for the paycheck and massive connections once he gets out.

It's like going to a party with clear intention not to get drunk because people are relying on you to drive your friends home, but ending up getting drunk. You're going to inevitably wonder why you did it after you face the consequences after and realize this was a terrible idea for the views you support.

Terrible analogy. But nonetheless you're going to trade one neoliberal for another and that isn't sending anyone a flaming pile of shit on anyone on Capitol Hill, that's giving them a different kind of cake.

July 26, 2016 - 12:24

Colton Cook

No independents. Worthless poll.

July 26, 2016 - 12:26

Austin Ward

see

We're getting Trump & Shillary supporters flooding in, trying to shill. A poll claiming 90% is absurd on its face, anyway.

July 26, 2016 - 12:27

Cooper Myers

See

The S█████ voters are depressed and apathetic. They'll vote for her, but they'll do so halfheartedly. You won't see Hillary suddenly getting B████ sized rallies filled with young people.

July 26, 2016 - 12:27

Justin Gonzalez

Fair enough, then.

July 26, 2016 - 12:30

Blake Campbell

Please share your crystal ball, I have some business I need to take care of..

We're also not apathetic. We care too much.

July 26, 2016 - 12:30

Christopher Hall

And you just spewed a big bunch of shit nobody in America gives a fuck about.

The fact of the matter is that everybody and their mother is saying Trump will be a horrible president, so some voters are inclined to vote for him just to see how horrible he will be. They want to troll America.

July 26, 2016 - 12:32

Jordan Rivera

I've been up for 24 hrs now and need to sleep, anyone know an estimate time for the roll call?

I read the convention starts at 4pm and heard the roll call will be in the beginning, anyone know? Even the official schedule doesn't seem to say.

July 26, 2016 - 12:33

Easton King

So pollyps want to appear as edgy as possible to "troll" people.

Other news at 11

July 26, 2016 - 12:33

Angel Torres

5-7 pm

July 26, 2016 - 12:33

Nicholas Hughes

fox8.com/2016/07/26/schedule-of-speakers-for-second-night-of-democratic-national-convention-released/
todays schedule

July 26, 2016 - 12:33

Jose Torres

Dude.. politically incorrect, lmao

July 26, 2016 - 12:34

Daniel Lopez

Thanks anons. I don't think I can make it that long. I guess I'll wake up and see what's happened.

July 26, 2016 - 12:35

Gabriel Powell

I was explaining why justifying voting for him because he'll fight Capitol Hill is complete and utter bullshit.

This dude has tanked his campaign financally and now is relying on the same donors he criticized other candidates for having, and the way that always works is bribes to get certain things passed and cooperation. Just as well his running mate is an establishment Conservative who he wants to be his own personal Dick Cheney.

He never wanted to be "anti-establishment" and that was obvious from the get go.

Voting for him will
not
hurt
porkies.

It won't. In the election of either candidate, both will help Porkies tremendously.

In this election, however it may go, all of us will be hurt and we will all mean less in the scheme of things, and porkies will matter all the more.

July 26, 2016 - 12:36

Lucas Flores

I know hating her is basically a maymay now, but she legitimately scares me. She seems like the kind of person that only clamors for power because she can and enjoys torturing people for fun.

July 26, 2016 - 12:36

Julian Campbell

So does Trump. Welcome to politics, everyone who wants to rule the free world doesn't do it out of love.

July 26, 2016 - 12:37

Nolan Long

Yeah, his long history of compromise and working with the democrats make this a complete surprise.

July 26, 2016 - 12:37

Jacob Flores

Keep up the good fight guys. Inspire the berns, plan together, get your asses to roll call, join the protests, drink lots of water.

July 26, 2016 - 12:38

Adam Turner

This

July 26, 2016 - 12:40

Mason Perez

Yeah, but Trump I can at least understand. He's a narcissistic manchild that's had brown noses in the entertainment industry inflate his ego for years. He legitimately does not understand that he unfit to be a leader; in his shoes, most people wouldn't.

July 26, 2016 - 12:40

Andrew Ramirez

This is my country.

Over 50 years of economical and political neo liberalism, with some springling of social democratic reforms.

Kill me.

July 26, 2016 - 12:41

Carson James

Your understanding of Trump is based on the false promises he made along the way to get where he's at inside the conservative establishment, making thousands on hats and bumper stickers and empty slogans along the way.

I honesty don't get this "Yeah, but Trump's not a manipulative politician, he's just like us!" shit. That's blatantly false.

July 26, 2016 - 12:42

Logan Taylor

The guy didn't say that at all.

July 26, 2016 - 12:43

Liam Howard

I'm criticizing the idea "but I sympathize with Trump voters" or "I understand them". They shouldn't get off so easy.

July 26, 2016 - 12:44

Levi Nelson

I'm sorry. Don't give up. Don't let that anger turn inside. It is not your fault. Fight.

July 26, 2016 - 12:45

Christopher Clark

reddit.com/r/politics/comments/4umgtc/2016_democratic_national_convention_day_1_thread_2/d5rp5o9?context=10000

I thought this was pretty good. Link for context.

July 26, 2016 - 12:46

Leo Lee

CNN: Hillary is bending over backwards to placate B████ ██████ supporters

I should have this on mute.

July 26, 2016 - 12:47

Angel Howard

When is the roll call happening?

July 26, 2016 - 12:48

Hudson Barnes

Did Ghandi kind of chum around with Hitler for a while?

July 26, 2016 - 12:51

Wyatt Wright

...

July 26, 2016 - 12:57

Wyatt Wright

this whole thread is vomit inducing

July 26, 2016 - 12:59

Xavier Parker

twitter.com/abcpolitics/status/757944710585606144

July 26, 2016 - 13:01

Thomas Peterson

...

July 26, 2016 - 13:03

Jacob Campbell

...

July 26, 2016 - 13:04

Colton Jenkins

yeah

so?

July 26, 2016 - 13:04

Lucas Gutierrez

why is this country such a joke

July 26, 2016 - 13:04

Parker Scott

You mistake him with Subhas Chandra Bose

July 26, 2016 - 13:05

Sebastian Carter

From what it sounds like, any money he's getting right now isn't going to Hillary's campaign.

July 26, 2016 - 13:07

Wyatt Mitchell

youtube.com/watch?v=YIG-yS7Brqs

They're saying roll call in 15 mins

July 26, 2016 - 13:17

Logan Peterson

Is this EST?

I have a meeting with a therapist today 5:30-7 EST. I regret scheduling this.

July 26, 2016 - 13:18

Chase Clark

ye

July 26, 2016 - 13:21

Easton Cox

Dear yankees: how the hell did this happen? Are you seriously going to end up with a Tramp presidency?

July 26, 2016 - 13:23

Jaxon Scott

Rigged elections & uninformed/poorly educated populous

July 26, 2016 - 13:26

Robert Watson

I fucking hate myself.

July 26, 2016 - 13:27

Ayden Bailey

This isn't a threat toward anyone, not even myself. I mean the (joking) implication is I'm gonna kill myself, but I didn't think this post through.

July 26, 2016 - 13:28

Bentley Roberts

Stop lad.

July 26, 2016 - 13:29

Evan Brooks

...

July 26, 2016 - 13:29

Kayden Sullivan

Are you autistic? Or an absolute newfag?

July 26, 2016 - 13:31

Kayden Taylor

Dude, you're fine. :)

I'm about to pass out, so odds are I'll see it but not be able to remember it properly. Maybe try to find wifi where you're at & stream it.

But CNN's saying it's like 2 minutes away.. Stream it now if possible, you may see some habbenings here

July 26, 2016 - 13:31

Chase Allen

Starting
youtube.com/watch?v=QsSS9ML9PCk

July 26, 2016 - 13:32

Gabriel Scott

I don't believe in transhumanism. I believe that the internet as a medium will bring us closer to collective today than it will the physical. There is no way to encrypt what we do in flesh, but there is advantages to it. Having good, bold theory and strategy will lead us into the future.

And that future is the one that is free, and that is in the internet.

Commune, community, it all has advantages in the internet, and we will slowly grow to understand this as each and every foolish attempt we make fails. Communism has always relied on the moral righteousness of what we believe, that beyond sacrifice for ourselves for others gains there lies a world worth living for and fighting for. A community, one where love can exist, and where we can make a heaven that relies on no nation or no border and no limits. What countless nations tell us we fight for but do not.

A sense of community. In the end, true or not, this is what attracts mankind to the prospect of commune in the same way it attracts mankind to world peace. Whether these things are true or not in the sense of commune, nobody can say. But it is what attracts us all, emotionally. Beyond emotion there is rational reason to fight for the collective people as well.

And all of these things are already present within the frame of reference, the context, the subtext, of the internet. In a world fighting for meaning, someone could give them that meaning. Just like in the past. This works to our advantage.

We are always looked upon as thieves stealing from the wealthy and the powerful above us for the greater whole of people who believe to stand for others happiness. Where, also, do you think you can steal from the wealthy more easily? The digital.

This won't happen within the next four years. But eventually this option can be weighed as an alternative to what the world is already conditioned to fight against.

An alternative of freedom of money and resources to combat a system that games us will inevitably become the more attractive solution, and so, disrupt capitalism the more people try to find it. Pigs will undoubtedly fight us tooth and nail, but in the internet, just as piracy, there will not be a surefire way to stop us if there is talent involved to find ways to side step, and there will always be.

Give it time.

July 26, 2016 - 13:33

Asher Cruz

muh islam

July 26, 2016 - 13:34

Wyatt Morgan

criiiiiiiiiiiiinge

July 26, 2016 - 13:35

Christopher Diaz

I don't even know what's happening anymore

Strap in for the shitshow

July 26, 2016 - 13:35

Dylan Adams

You're right. I should have typed that up more casually so you don't cringe and can stay comfortable. I'm sorry I didn't think of you when typing up why you're wrong.

July 26, 2016 - 13:36

Daniel Davis

compromise
stigmatize
lobotomize

July 26, 2016 - 13:36

Jeremiah Kelly

It's just idpol lipservice to convince liberals.

When is this going to end?

July 26, 2016 - 13:36

Austin Gutierrez

You're so disconnected. Get out more.

July 26, 2016 - 13:36

Brody Lopez

She was a bigger asshole than Gandhi at times.

Gandhi was a lot of things, but I don't recall anything to suggest he was capable of the same habitual sadism as of Mother Theresa.

July 26, 2016 - 13:37

Ryder Perry

Ohh noooo nuh uh you just didn't tell her what to do with her body

July 26, 2016 - 13:37

Levi Fisher

If you have to cringe at something typed out thoroughly, I would say get out of college while you can; we both know you're not in college.

July 26, 2016 - 13:37

Carson Adams

Get out more.

July 26, 2016 - 13:38

Henry Long

lel

July 26, 2016 - 13:38

Ethan Clark

Cancer.

July 26, 2016 - 13:38

Luis Bailey

...

July 26, 2016 - 13:39

Joshua Bell

I pledge allegiance…

July 26, 2016 - 13:39

Nolan Watson

Parading disabled people like if they were animals for entertaining.

July 26, 2016 - 13:40

Jacob Mitchell

Stop posting.

July 26, 2016 - 13:40

Ethan Murphy

That American pledge is spooky

July 26, 2016 - 13:40

Jace Kelly

Sign language lady got it goin on

July 26, 2016 - 13:40

Christian Anderson

how did this thread become so shit

July 26, 2016 - 13:40

Mason Roberts

To the flag…

July 26, 2016 - 13:40

Jayden Anderson

Can anfemmy please just stick to posting the occasional picture of a neckbeard to be a troll, instead of obsessively arguing with every single poster ever like a sperg?

July 26, 2016 - 13:40

Leo Cook

I like how they wheel out a guy who has been fucked over by their policies most of al

July 26, 2016 - 13:40

Gabriel Davis

Nationalism is the true religion

July 26, 2016 - 13:41

Zachary Miller

No I can't.

July 26, 2016 - 13:41

Juan Jones

wtf America, get your shit together

July 26, 2016 - 13:46

Alexander Russell

Paranoia, lads–thinking my posts are being monitored by people who think I'm a threat because I'm mentally ill and a commie. I know it's a bad post, hence the spoiler and sage, I just needed to get the fear off my mind so I can function.

July 26, 2016 - 13:47

Noah Roberts

They are playing the music extra loud to cover the chants

July 26, 2016 - 13:47

Josiah Cruz

ITS HIP TO BE SQUARE

July 26, 2016 - 13:47

Brandon Richardson

first time watching one of these things
are they always this cringy?

July 26, 2016 - 13:48

Xavier Turner

youtube.com/watch?v=6WZ8xI9YykY

Thread theme

You'll be rid of it soon lad. Good luck.

July 26, 2016 - 13:48

Jackson Long

Ugh Allison Lundergen Grimes.. From my state.

July 26, 2016 - 13:49

Isaiah Adams

I love this discourse

July 26, 2016 - 13:49

Ryan Fisher

Because you disagree with me on practically everything. Not for mostly any other reason. Which is your fault, really.

July 26, 2016 - 13:50

Xavier Cooper

Did the B████ people got purged or what? where are the boos?

July 26, 2016 - 13:51

John Adams

they probably moved audience mics away from them
you can still hear them, but faintly

July 26, 2016 - 13:52

Josiah Williams

There were some boos a minute ago, but it cut out real quick. I'm guessing mics.

July 26, 2016 - 13:52

Grayson Barnes

Before there were some B████ chants but then American Psycho music started playing.

July 26, 2016 - 13:53

Austin Peterson

Oh, you boys just won't stop flirting with me! Tee-hee!

July 26, 2016 - 13:53

Aiden Adams

are they gonna say anything else? I'm getting bored

July 26, 2016 - 13:53

Tyler Cook

There was B████ ██████ chanting diring hip to be square. Or like right now the hillary chanting hijacked the B████ chanting

July 26, 2016 - 13:53

Carter Parker

HILLARY HILLARY HILLARY HILLARY HILLARY

July 26, 2016 - 13:54

Hunter Martin

I'm a diff user. I actually agree with you on most stuff, like the pedo fight you got in.

July 26, 2016 - 13:54

Jace Gray

Host is sweating lmao

July 26, 2016 - 13:55

Lucas James

Will B████ tell em to burn this bitch down? Will the madman do it?

July 26, 2016 - 13:56

Blake Green

It doesn't matter what he or we want. They'll get their coronation.

July 26, 2016 - 13:56

Julian Diaz

Wait one sec. So in order to BE in the democratic convention for the vote for the candidate you have to endorse your opponent? because I remember that the DNC threatened to not let B████ in if he didn't endorse beforehand.

July 26, 2016 - 13:57

Bentley Diaz

But I do hope so, of course. That they fight hard for it.

July 26, 2016 - 13:57

Alexander Ross

Yes. It's in the rules. Something about he'd lose his delegates otherwise.

July 26, 2016 - 13:57

Jacob Campbell

No, this the thread theme.

youtube.com/watch?v=8CvqmD0CZao

July 26, 2016 - 13:58

Nathan Jenkins

PREACH, TULSI

July 26, 2016 - 13:59

Logan Smith

periscope caster is back up lads…periscope.tv/w/1ZkKzpWgBMWJv

July 26, 2016 - 13:59

Jace Harris

...

July 26, 2016 - 14:00

Evan Moore

woot

July 26, 2016 - 14:00

Dominic Rivera

Literally a porky on the stage

July 26, 2016 - 14:01

Zachary Cox

noice

July 26, 2016 - 14:01

Camden Foster

Post dnc riot music:

youtu.be/YLDEbd1HCUM

July 26, 2016 - 14:01

Benjamin Collins

Paul is a big guy..

July 26, 2016 - 14:02

Owen Campbell

...

July 26, 2016 - 14:02

Noah Wood

I'm surprised they let B████ people speak, even.

July 26, 2016 - 14:03

Bentley Price

...

July 26, 2016 - 14:03

Sebastian Morales

Literally a mole in B████'s campaign.

Fuck that Porky.

July 26, 2016 - 14:04

Nolan Perry

hoo boy
this gon be good

July 26, 2016 - 14:05

Isaac Davis

Damn can we please have it not side ways.

July 26, 2016 - 14:05

Robert Reed

Fuck this guy

July 26, 2016 - 14:05

Jayden Watson

He's trans-hippo otherkin, you biggot

July 26, 2016 - 14:05

Hunter Robinson

Did Hillary endorsed B████ too?

July 26, 2016 - 14:05

Jace Jones

Presumptive* nominee

July 26, 2016 - 14:06

Julian Howard

Dat B████ grin

July 26, 2016 - 14:07

Robert Williams

She's from Vermont.. From what I've heard, Vermont was going to endorse Hillary or something.. Let's see

July 26, 2016 - 14:07

Jacob Myers

he looks nervous af

July 26, 2016 - 14:07

Thomas Green

dat qt B████crat

July 26, 2016 - 14:07

Jaxson Powell

Shit, I would be

July 26, 2016 - 14:08

Jason Price

Definitely nervous, but I saw some other emotions too

July 26, 2016 - 14:09

Logan Howard

revolutionary poise?

July 26, 2016 - 14:09

Christian Adams

Poor little bern guy.

July 26, 2016 - 14:10

Isaiah Ward

I wouldn't know how to feel myself I be nervous as shit too if I knew that all that I worked for was on the line.

July 26, 2016 - 14:10

Easton Hill

bahaha the please chant more expression, funneled in cheers from speakers

July 26, 2016 - 14:11

Parker Cox

On some level, I feel bad for the little social democrat traitor, I have to admit.

July 26, 2016 - 14:11

Easton Gutierrez

has there ever been riots on the convention floor itself? would be amazing to see

July 26, 2016 - 14:12

Cooper Bell

No idea, but I'm rooting for a riot

July 26, 2016 - 14:12

Owen Bennett

...

July 26, 2016 - 14:12

Christian Bell

BREAK BARRIERS

July 26, 2016 - 14:13

Bentley Wood

So Shillaries are fat, from what I see.

July 26, 2016 - 14:13

Angel Torres

except the ones around the convention
those need to stay

July 26, 2016 - 14:13

Juan Thomas

Wew Lads the land whale is shilling hard.

July 26, 2016 - 14:13

Hunter Gutierrez

When McGovern was running in '68 I believe

July 26, 2016 - 14:14

Oliver Russell

my browser is shitting itself holy shit

what's happening?

July 26, 2016 - 14:14

Levi Smith

Weaker cheers for hillary

July 26, 2016 - 14:14

Anthony Cooper

"Breaking Barriers" hmm.. freudian slip?

July 26, 2016 - 14:15

Easton Bailey

Nominating speeches from hillary supporters

July 26, 2016 - 14:15

Xavier Myers

the nominee should be determined in a battle royale on the convention floor

July 26, 2016 - 14:15

Nathaniel Bailey

yeah bring out the one guy no one is going to boo
lmao

July 26, 2016 - 14:15

Anthony Cruz

das racis

July 26, 2016 - 14:16

Aiden Lopez

Hurts me family

July 26, 2016 - 14:17

Jacob Gray

Bernouts would easily win with revolution ary fire attack.

July 26, 2016 - 14:17

Hudson Rivera

Oh can we have a colosseum as well with lions and shit.

July 26, 2016 - 14:18

Jonathan Cox

OUR DEAR LEADER!!!

July 26, 2016 - 14:19

Elijah Butler

PRAISE THE LEADER

July 26, 2016 - 14:19

Parker Perez

Weak ass cheers for Hillary lmao

July 26, 2016 - 14:20

Michael Brown

No there will be no praise to the bourgeois down with the oligarchs.

July 26, 2016 - 14:20

James Harris

What kind of name is that? nailah amaru

July 26, 2016 - 14:21

Gabriel Moore

Remember that tiger scene in Gladiator? The DNC will try to rig the battle!

July 26, 2016 - 14:22

Lincoln Rodriguez

WOOOO
YAAAAAAYY

jesus what

July 26, 2016 - 14:22

Nolan Reed

Not surprising tbh.

July 26, 2016 - 14:22

Ryder Scott

I personally believe nominees must engage in debate boxing. Three rounds of boxing followed by a 15 minute debate on the issues.

The nominee is determined either by winning the most rounds/debates or knockout.

July 26, 2016 - 14:22

James Thomas

What

July 26, 2016 - 14:23

Cooper Thomas

That isn't a bad idea. I like that, then you can't rig that shit too well either.

July 26, 2016 - 14:23

Jeremiah Sanders

here we go

July 26, 2016 - 14:23

John Anderson

I hope Hillary's at least nervous right now

But she's probably not. Probably has snipers trained on B████ atm just in case.

July 26, 2016 - 14:23

Jordan Brown

assange will release the next batch of emails right after the roll call
calling it now

July 26, 2016 - 14:24

Isaiah Hall

Ufff

July 26, 2016 - 14:25

Nolan Turner

...

July 26, 2016 - 14:26

Chase Edwards

History in the sense of destroying the Democratic Party?

Then yes, I am ready for them to make history.

July 26, 2016 - 14:27

Carter Howard

why do they need to make their little speech?
god damn just declare the votes jfc

July 26, 2016 - 14:27

Jack Brown

I second this motion.

July 26, 2016 - 14:28

Jayden Morgan

Yessss Alaska made up for their super delegates

July 26, 2016 - 14:28

Jaxon Lopez

...

July 26, 2016 - 14:29

Matthew Scott

how does samoa have 10 fucking votes?

July 26, 2016 - 14:30

Dominic Williams

Why even have this roll call vote then?

Rhetorical, of course

July 26, 2016 - 14:30

Luis Phillips

...

July 26, 2016 - 14:30

Nicholas Adams

They have to make up for the zero votes they get in the general.

July 26, 2016 - 14:31

Adam Powell

WE CAST OUR VOTES FOR A TRUE CHAMPION OF THE PROLETARIAT AND NEXT PRESIDENT

July 26, 2016 - 14:32

Sebastian Lee

This is all for show. Hillary already rigged it behind the scenes for the delegate count. Feelsbadman, even still.

July 26, 2016 - 14:32

Hunter Gomez

yeah no shit

July 26, 2016 - 14:33

Robert Morris

Make it happen.

All the sweeter will be all those fresh emails.

July 26, 2016 - 14:33

Kayden Johnson

Those berine chants

July 26, 2016 - 14:34

Joseph Martinez

We need a Amerexit so America can leave from itself.

July 26, 2016 - 14:34

Joseph Morgan

Just reminding.

July 26, 2016 - 14:34

Ryan Kelly

Damn right

July 26, 2016 - 14:34

Samuel Anderson

This shit is lame.
I wish someone would someone would throw a punch

July 26, 2016 - 14:35

Caleb Garcia

Will we get Washington?

July 26, 2016 - 14:35

Christopher Nelson

Did anyone recall the California election was rigged as hell?

July 26, 2016 - 14:36

Jordan Hernandez

We need to make a man made island.
Call it Jamerica and go full communist.

July 26, 2016 - 14:36

Parker Kelly

why does american politics need to be such a smily happy wohhoooow shitshow
across the pond we don't get it tbh

July 26, 2016 - 14:36

Brandon Fisher

how else are you going to get people interested in false hope?

July 26, 2016 - 14:36

Robert Thompson

Calling her president before announcing the votes. Way to alienate even more independents.

July 26, 2016 - 14:37

Liam Perez

this is American culture, lads

July 26, 2016 - 14:37

Austin Sanders

Calling her president before november is alienating more voters. Since they are so smug about this shit.

July 26, 2016 - 14:37

Jose Wright

idk can't you just be cynical like we are here

July 26, 2016 - 14:39

Benjamin Robinson

a literal B████bro

July 26, 2016 - 14:40

John Walker

That crying.

You're still a traitor B████

July 26, 2016 - 14:40

Grayson Young

holy shit larry

July 26, 2016 - 14:41

Bentley Jenkins

What will they say about Kansas? It's the rectangle in the middle of the country?

July 26, 2016 - 14:41

Lucas Rivera

Holy fuck that got me..

July 26, 2016 - 14:41

Andrew Rivera

That guy behind her.
Fuck.

July 26, 2016 - 14:41

Bentley Ross

I teared up. He is such a proud brother, a really good brother

July 26, 2016 - 14:41

Eli Wright

Some people like to believe they're doing an amazing service to our country by voting in a criminal. Go figure.

July 26, 2016 - 14:42

David Turner

I wish I had a brother like that.

July 26, 2016 - 14:42

Gabriel Perry

...

July 26, 2016 - 14:43

Blake Wood

Oh man.

Bernie's brother's speech hit me hard in the feels.

July 26, 2016 - 14:43

Levi Green

Very proud

Same here, man

July 26, 2016 - 14:44

Jaxon Garcia

REEEEEEEEEEEE YOU CORRUPT FUCKS CHEATED LARRY'S LITTLE BROTHER
RIOTS WHEN

July 26, 2016 - 14:44

Jonathan Bennett

I can't stop laughing

July 26, 2016 - 14:44

Ayden Scott

TIL D.C. means District of Columbia

July 26, 2016 - 14:44

Alexander Watson

RIOT FOR LARRY

July 26, 2016 - 14:44

James Foster

Hillary stares silently at the scene, wondering what these people are doing, for reptilians do not understand human emotions.

July 26, 2016 - 14:44

Bentley Wilson

#doitforlarry

July 26, 2016 - 14:45

Joseph Foster

laughing with tears at the same time

Do it for Larry, guys!

July 26, 2016 - 14:45

Liam Anderson

Larry's a member of the Green Party in the UK IIRC

July 26, 2016 - 14:45

Jason Rogers

...

July 26, 2016 - 14:46

Bentley Lewis

So what you're saying is he got out

July 26, 2016 - 14:46

Jordan Turner

Madame Secretary seems to be really irritated whenever a state votes more for B████

July 26, 2016 - 14:47

Eli Nguyen

"Bro-ther.. What's a bro-ther?"

July 26, 2016 - 14:47

Brody Bell

What?

July 26, 2016 - 14:48

Thomas Wilson

She sure does

He got out of America.. I'm so sleepy user

July 26, 2016 - 14:49

Ryder Perez

The fear is real.

July 26, 2016 - 14:49

Oliver Fisher

...

July 26, 2016 - 14:50

Aaron Allen

woops we needa crier for hillary

July 26, 2016 - 14:50

Jaxson Kelly

Is there going to be a riot at the end?

July 26, 2016 - 14:51

Levi James

kek

I seriously don't doubt it

July 26, 2016 - 14:51

Kevin Richardson

I want to give Larry S█████ a hug tbh

July 26, 2016 - 14:52

Colton Miller

oh yeah some weak ass rhymes just what i needed

July 26, 2016 - 14:52

Jason Williams

Me too.. That was a great moment

July 26, 2016 - 14:53

Carson Howard

When are they going to get to the twerking?

July 26, 2016 - 14:53

Tyler Morales

THE FUCK B████ WON INDIANA

July 26, 2016 - 14:54

Jaxon Baker

I think the crowd is too demoralized to riot at this point.

Of course, this will bite Hillary in the ass later when her rallies are about as populated as an inner city father/son picnic.

July 26, 2016 - 14:55

Jace Johnson

Reject logic, embrace idpol

July 26, 2016 - 14:55

Angel Long

...

July 26, 2016 - 14:55

Sebastian Lewis

States S█████' flat-out won pledging majority of votes to Clinton…this is surreal to witness.

July 26, 2016 - 14:56

Xavier Garcia

Watching the democratic party burn before my eyes

July 26, 2016 - 14:56

Xavier Peterson

He's a lucky guy

And nice quads

July 26, 2016 - 14:56

Bentley Hall

What happened in Kansas? My feed cut

July 26, 2016 - 14:56

Jordan Lewis

...

July 26, 2016 - 14:56

Easton Stewart

As if Trump is the logical choice. Neither of these candidates are the logical choice. This election is hell and I don't even vote.

July 26, 2016 - 14:56

Oliver Davis

Anything to stop Trump user, we have to unite. His basically Hitler.

July 26, 2016 - 14:56

Justin Harris

I was just thinking about that

July 26, 2016 - 14:57

Kayden Howard

fucking revisionist.

July 26, 2016 - 14:57

Blake Carter

Where's a red flag I can cover myself in? It's getting cold

July 26, 2016 - 14:57

Caleb Smith

KY will let me down as always

July 26, 2016 - 14:57

William Rogers

This. 48% of the Democratic electorate are going to change the channel whenever she appears.

July 26, 2016 - 14:58

Landon Bennett

That's not what I was implying at all

July 26, 2016 - 14:58

Parker Russell

Louisiana delegation is by far the most obnoxious so far

July 26, 2016 - 14:59

Cooper Torres

Dual citizen of UK and US.

I don't get this whole obsession with

Thatcher was awful, so was Blair

July 26, 2016 - 14:59

Owen Watson

...

July 26, 2016 - 15:00

Jackson Allen

welcome to the magical world of identity politics user

July 26, 2016 - 15:00

Jace Rogers

And Nevada? Arizona?

July 26, 2016 - 15:01

Brayden Powell

Does this mean trump is probably going to win? Thanks dnc

July 26, 2016 - 15:01

Isaiah Martin

Maine not calling Hillary

nice

July 26, 2016 - 15:01

Luis Fisher

That well show them! Steal and ruin our democracy will you?! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FEEL THE BURN!

July 26, 2016 - 15:02

Christopher Allen

Oh yeah. Get ready to make America great again.

July 26, 2016 - 15:03

Kayden Allen

Are they making sure idpols and blacks are announcing Hillary's wins so if B████ supporters boo they'll be sexist racist ___phobes

July 26, 2016 - 15:03

Owen Edwards

If Trump wins, it will be solely Hillary's fault.

July 26, 2016 - 15:03

Parker Hughes

Was just acknowledging a subtle dig. Calm down m8

July 26, 2016 - 15:04

Angel Carter

wouldn't surprise me tbh

July 26, 2016 - 15:04

Ryan Williams

Betting you anything there's an article on Vox about it right now

July 26, 2016 - 15:05

Anthony Baker

...

July 26, 2016 - 15:06

Charles Cox

I think we should all follow B████ ██████' example and become independents.

blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2016/07/26/bernie-sanders-to-return-to-senate-as-an-independent/

July 26, 2016 - 15:06

Anthony Rogers

Then why suck hillary's clit?

July 26, 2016 - 15:07

Michael Cook

Did Minnesotta say "Princess Purple Rain"?
wat

July 26, 2016 - 15:07

Cooper Evans

Party platform concessions.

Remember, he's about the "WE" not the "ME".

July 26, 2016 - 15:08

Isaiah Hernandez

I'm leaving the dem party for sure

July 26, 2016 - 15:08

Christian Morgan

What a meme

July 26, 2016 - 15:08

Jason Smith

Guys I think the dnc really proved we should be peaceful and not violent and the elites will listen to us!

July 26, 2016 - 15:09

Dominic Rivera

If he's going back to being an independent anyway, why didn't he just hop on the green party ticket?

July 26, 2016 - 15:10

Camden Harris

This

If we politely ask for power they'll give it to us

July 26, 2016 - 15:11

Jaxon Allen

...

July 26, 2016 - 15:12

Alexander Fisher

...

July 26, 2016 - 15:12

Ethan Brooks

ENTRYISM

He infiltrated the democratic party, and got as far as he could without losing it all. He managed to change the fucking platform.

For him to do anything with this amount of pressure on him right now, he wouldn't have been able to make those deals and hold Hillary's heat to the fire. I'm not voting for Hillary, but with the options he had, he did the insanely smart thing.

July 26, 2016 - 15:12

Charles Thomas

...

July 26, 2016 - 15:13

William Watson

See that bitch Roberta Lange in Nevada?

July 26, 2016 - 15:13

Luis Martinez

s/heat/feet

July 26, 2016 - 15:13

Aiden Nguyen

Because Jill Stein doesn't have a chance to get the White House. She'll be lucky to get government funding.

July 26, 2016 - 15:13

Tyler Butler

Never forget.

July 26, 2016 - 15:14

James Taylor

Well he better do a Stalin-esque purge because all I see in the top of the Democratic Party is idpol oligarchs.

July 26, 2016 - 15:15

Ryan Hill

She's been arrested like 80 times

Still a great person, and i might vote for her, but i know she doesn't stand a chance and think what B████ did was smart

July 26, 2016 - 15:16

Tyler Reed

they may be stealing your money but they're of all races and gender identities

July 26, 2016 - 15:16

Aaron Perry

...

July 26, 2016 - 15:19

Matthew Cook

Therefore the purge won't be biased towards any gender or race.

July 26, 2016 - 15:19

Ethan Rivera

Ugh.

July 26, 2016 - 15:19

Juan Scott

That forced Hillary..

July 26, 2016 - 15:21

Christian Jenkins

gross

July 26, 2016 - 15:21

Alexander Jones

I cant watch this anymore, these people have to pay for what they did.

July 26, 2016 - 15:22

Parker Walker

...

July 26, 2016 - 15:22

Carter Ward

Watch it to the end, to see what Idpol does to a country.

July 26, 2016 - 15:23

Jackson Powell

Let's hope Wikileaks has saved the best for last.

July 26, 2016 - 15:23

Xavier Davis

...

July 26, 2016 - 15:23

Liam Rivera

I'm betting on the deleted emails.

July 26, 2016 - 15:23

Joshua Morgan

I'm hoping for something like a clinton kill-list
now wouldn't that be grand

July 26, 2016 - 15:24

Caleb Davis

Neoliberalism

July 26, 2016 - 15:24

Ryan Brown

????

July 26, 2016 - 15:24

Landon Sullivan

A bunch of jibberish and leaves.
How democratic.

July 26, 2016 - 15:24

Ayden Price

nvm i'm stupid.

July 26, 2016 - 15:25

Justin Hall

...

July 26, 2016 - 15:25

Sebastian Rivera

It's going to happen. There is no way in hell Hillary and the establishment are going to implement 1/10th of the reforms B████ wants, which will spring his trap card. He can then go on the web, rile up his young supporters by saying Ms. Clinton isn't keeping her promises to the American people, and then all hell will break loose. After this convention, they'll be itching for revenge.

You also have to remember B████ isn't done after this. He's going on the campaign trail to steal every fucking election he can, so don't write him off yet. The revolution begins now.

Steal Congress for Larry.

July 26, 2016 - 15:26

Camden Morris

...

July 26, 2016 - 15:26

Jordan Williams

Clearly a faggot.

July 26, 2016 - 15:26

Jaxson Lewis

As dishonest as the actions of the DNC were, I still don't think B████ could have won. He just wasn't popular with minorities because of idpol. It just seems like identity politics is taking priority over class-based politics among the working class nowadays.

July 26, 2016 - 15:26

Jonathan Flores

...

July 26, 2016 - 15:26

Tyler Robinson

Larry is an angel

July 26, 2016 - 15:27

Juan Powell

Look guys, it's a good gay

July 26, 2016 - 15:27

Adam Brown

Oahyou~, Ohio-kun!

July 26, 2016 - 15:27

Parker Baker

Oh, that's a given, though

July 26, 2016 - 15:27

Julian Williams

Both he and B████ are so human

July 26, 2016 - 15:27

Leo Reed

jesus what the hell
that voice

July 26, 2016 - 15:28

Kayden Adams

holy shit

July 26, 2016 - 15:28

Josiah Adams

MUH VAGINA!
Jesus… how can you guys watch this shit show anymore? Fuck reality time to play video games.

July 26, 2016 - 15:28

Mason Brooks

THANKS EDWARD BERNAYS FOR MAKING WOMEN SMOKE

July 26, 2016 - 15:29

Ryan Nguyen

BEHOLD! THE HILLARY SUPPORTER!

July 26, 2016 - 15:29

Jayden Green

They're conning people into believing their problems steam from racism, sexism, etc. instead of classism.

Just look at all of the leaders in the sjw movement and blm. All of them are rich fucks.

July 26, 2016 - 15:29

Anthony Butler

Why don't you faggots just join us?

July 26, 2016 - 15:30

Jeremiah Bennett

With neoliberals. True hard workers see through that shit. It took one conversation with my father to turn him to B████.

July 26, 2016 - 15:30

Christopher Rogers

I know, but you see it on the right too, where the "dominant" group views itself as oppressed by women, gays, and uppity brown people.

July 26, 2016 - 15:31

Jeremiah Russell

Classism? Is that what happen when you are too classy?

July 26, 2016 - 15:31

Ethan White

reddit.com/live/xbkj9jvpcgux/

Feed with the votes laid out

July 26, 2016 - 15:31

Nicholas Thompson

Most of the older generation are unaware of B████ thanks to the conspiracy. My mother saw his speech last night and thought he was amazing.

July 26, 2016 - 15:32

Brayden Torres

Same here. I had to introduce my mom to him, too. The news sure as shit wouldn't do it.

July 26, 2016 - 15:33

Sebastian Cox

With the democrats, it's worse. Republicans always support the free market and big business. The democrats keep saying they're for the people, but they don't actually do anything for them.

July 26, 2016 - 15:33

Owen Adams

It's what happens when you suck a dead jew cock until your brain melts.

July 26, 2016 - 15:33

Cameron Jackson

...

July 26, 2016 - 15:34

Isaac Edwards

...

July 26, 2016 - 15:34

William Myers

I think a big part of the upcoming revolution would be introducing S█████ to the previous generations. More supporters for the cause.

July 26, 2016 - 15:35

Carson Wood

Calm down user

July 26, 2016 - 15:35

Chase Ward

Does anyone know how many statea left?

July 26, 2016 - 15:35

Jordan Nguyen

I hate Holla Forums

July 26, 2016 - 15:36

Isaac Sullivan

We don't hate you

July 26, 2016 - 15:37

Alexander Campbell

...

July 26, 2016 - 15:37

Alexander Sanders

ALL HOPES
LOST

July 26, 2016 - 15:39

Michael Cox

wanna cuddle?

July 26, 2016 - 15:39

Gavin Adams

the first ovaries in the the oval office

July 26, 2016 - 15:40

Julian Allen

C'mon Wikileaks.. Give us more.

July 26, 2016 - 15:42

Nolan Evans

America will look back at this moment in history and say they made a mistake.

July 26, 2016 - 15:42

Samuel Hill

That's Monica Lewinsky.
:^)

July 26, 2016 - 15:43

Nolan Diaz

what the fuck do you mean vermont passes

July 26, 2016 - 15:43

Ethan Gutierrez

WHAT THE FUCK

July 26, 2016 - 15:43

Jonathan Allen

I read earlier they're waiting to the end to endorse Clinton for "unity" or some bullshit

July 26, 2016 - 15:44

Mason Perry

Clinton is a retard that thinks people respond well to the "alpha dog" approach.

July 26, 2016 - 15:45

Nicholas Morris

Thank you for explaining.

July 26, 2016 - 15:45

Jason Jackson

(Because she's already reached the "magic number" now for the nomination)

July 26, 2016 - 15:45

Evan Murphy

hello i am margist were are the purge :DDDDD

July 26, 2016 - 15:46

Xavier Rogers

Vermont: Home of the class traitor

July 26, 2016 - 15:47

Henry Roberts

Seattle is more class conscious than Portland

July 26, 2016 - 15:49

Austin Lewis

...

July 26, 2016 - 15:52

Christopher Allen

CLASS TRAITOR
CLASS TRAITOR
CLASS TRAITOR
CLASS TRAITOR
CLASS TRAITOR

July 26, 2016 - 15:54

Justin Sanchez

We coup now?

July 26, 2016 - 15:54

Jackson Sullivan

We coup by stealing Congress for him.

July 26, 2016 - 15:55

Luis Parker

NOW ASSANGE.
NOW!

July 26, 2016 - 15:56

Jack Wood

REVOLUTION NOW

July 26, 2016 - 15:56

Samuel Hill

Silent crowd

July 26, 2016 - 15:56

Joseph Lewis

GO GO GO GO

July 26, 2016 - 15:56

Daniel Peterson

Yes. B████ is free. Now is the time.

July 26, 2016 - 15:57

Asher Parker

WHERE IS THE RIOTS
#JUSTICEFORLARRY

July 26, 2016 - 15:57

Easton Ross

RIOOOOOOOOOT

July 26, 2016 - 15:57

Cameron Stewart

How are there so many idiots in America?

Why did we defund schools?

July 26, 2016 - 15:57

Benjamin Rogers

#I'mwithLarry

AVENGE HIM

July 26, 2016 - 15:58

Ryder Ward

##LarryIsNotAlone

July 26, 2016 - 15:59

Asher Stewart

It's time

youtu.be/YLDEbd1HCUM

July 26, 2016 - 16:00

Camden Wilson

#CongressForLarry

July 26, 2016 - 16:00

Liam Reed

Such revisionism

July 26, 2016 - 16:00

Alexander Jackson

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

July 26, 2016 - 16:00

Carter Richardson

Those boos suddenly cut out lmao

Fuck the DNC so hard

This isn't over

July 26, 2016 - 16:01

Caleb Brooks

I fucking love that Larry has stolen Hillary's thunder.

July 26, 2016 - 16:02

Blake Kelly

...

July 26, 2016 - 16:04

Isaac Rivera

More fucking vagina talk, Jesus Christ.

July 26, 2016 - 16:05

Asher Wright

They kept cutting to him, even the networks knew it was good

Much better than Hillary, that's for sure - Actual human emotion.

July 26, 2016 - 16:05

Jordan Bennett

lmao

July 26, 2016 - 16:05

Logan Kelly

Hillary better get used it. These are the last cheers she'll ever receive.

July 26, 2016 - 16:06

Xavier Powell

foxbusiness.com/politics/2016/07/26/fmr-gov-omalley-outraged-americans-shrugging-off-dnc-hack.html

THE
RUSSIANS

July 26, 2016 - 16:06

Josiah Bennett

Nah, she'll hear some as she's being put into the guillotine

July 26, 2016 - 16:07

Nicholas Nelson

No thank you

July 26, 2016 - 16:07

Jason Jenkins

morningconsult.com/alert/clinton-campaign-manager-says-wikileaks-dump-timing-not-coincidence/
Clinton Campaign Manager Says WikiLeaks Dump Timing ‘Not a Coincidence’
THE DESPERATION

July 26, 2016 - 16:08

Kevin Bailey

Or at the impeachment trial.

July 26, 2016 - 16:09

Blake Sanders

Women were a mistake…

July 26, 2016 - 16:09

Matthew Howard

I'll take that.

July 26, 2016 - 16:10

Ryan Cox

youtube.com/watch?v=kqD8lIdIMRo

July 26, 2016 - 16:10

Ryder Rivera

I was just going to say.. Pls don't blame this on us

July 26, 2016 - 16:10

Easton Parker

I've been having Twatter fucks try to argue this. I told them they should care about truth more than political parties

July 26, 2016 - 16:11

Cameron Thomas

At least IDPOL has officially exhausted all "unique" nominees to the White House.

The only ones they have left are the two honorary white races: Latinos and Asians.

July 26, 2016 - 16:13

James White

We still have a few hundred billion genders to go through before idpol is exhausted.

July 26, 2016 - 16:17

Brandon Collins

Latino and Asia president itself is 8 years more of neoliberals, and that's not the only special snowflakes remaining. We still need a disabled president, a native american president, an arab president (that one will take a while), and a LGBT president.

July 26, 2016 - 16:17

Ethan Gomez

Meant for>>819090

July 26, 2016 - 16:18

Ayden Jackson

Can we get them all wrapped up in one president and be done? Man idpol is a great way from the ruling class to control the elections

July 26, 2016 - 16:19

Jeremiah Long

There's a reason why Hillary is a white woman and not a black/latino transgenderqueer male to female. You go one by one.

July 26, 2016 - 16:20

Bentley Morgan

I seriously hope Shillary gets a primary challenger in 2020.

July 26, 2016 - 16:21

Grayson Martinez

All of the potentially successful nominees are exhausted.

MAKE IT HAPPEN.

July 26, 2016 - 16:22

Levi Carter

she needs to win the general first ;)

July 26, 2016 - 16:22

Luis Williams

...

July 26, 2016 - 16:22

Dylan Diaz

We all know it's coming. Time to pull ourselves by the bootstraps

July 26, 2016 - 16:23

Nathan Howard

twitter.com/tonybrasunas/status/758030566075797509

No fucking wonder there were less boos this time around.

July 26, 2016 - 16:24

Jose Thompson

It's pretty certain that Hillary will win the General since Trump is only relying on uneducated whites as a winning coalition. Plus the Democrats only need either Ohio, Pennsylvania, or Florida to win the Election.

July 26, 2016 - 16:24

Logan Rivera

youtube.com/watch?v=nhTiYx_YyAs
March of the Bernouts

July 26, 2016 - 16:25

Jose Allen

Jimmy Carter speaking for Hillary. What a letdown

July 26, 2016 - 16:29

Sebastian Harris

twitter.com/search?q=sanders rules suspended&ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^search

twitter.com/usatoday2016/status/758075628147048448

It's over.

July 26, 2016 - 16:33

William Morgan

I CAN SNIFF OUT BULL BECAUSE BROOKLYN BORN
HILLARY HAS NO BULL
YOU CAN TAKE IT TO THE BANK
MUH 9/11

Please tell me this is a parody.

July 26, 2016 - 16:34

Landon Hernandez

Guess who makes up a majority of the electorate in swing states? Florida is known for it's swamp people and the rust belt is where juggalos come from.

Ohio and Pennsylvania are tossups but so are Wisconsin and Michegan. Hilary has at best a coin flip. And, if the primaries are anything to go by, Dem turnout is already in the toilet compared to GOP turnout.

July 26, 2016 - 16:35

Owen Nguyen

...

July 26, 2016 - 16:38

Jack Cook

Jesus, that crowed is dead. Let them rest.

July 26, 2016 - 16:39

Jordan Fisher

this is fucking hilarious, do they really expect people outside the party to eat this shit up? Given the entire fiasco over the emails, do they really expect people not to believe that Hilary's server got hacked?

July 26, 2016 - 16:39

Dominic Jackson

He is free.

July 26, 2016 - 16:40

Gavin Myers

Another cripple, truly befitting of the democratic party. What the fuck happened?

July 26, 2016 - 16:46

Nathaniel Torres

DISABILITY IS NOT A PROBLEM
IT'S A PART OF OUR IDENTITY
#IMWITHHER

WAKE ME UP

July 26, 2016 - 16:46

Hunter Reyes

...

July 26, 2016 - 16:46

Carter Anderson

Florida is also known for Hispanics and Immigrants. In addition states like Michigan and Wisconsin are becoming solid Blue the last two elections. Democratic turnout was shit but shillary still managed to get 3 million more votes than Trump, who is giving the dying party a last hurrah in the limelight. Once republicans take an Electoral Suicide, I see the lolberts as the new mainstream conservative party.

July 26, 2016 - 16:47

Jace Brooks

Didn't he Kickstart Neoliberalism in the Party when he was elected?

July 26, 2016 - 16:49

Chase Morris

When does Hillary make her acceptance speech for the nomination.

July 26, 2016 - 16:51

Matthew Brooks

Carter basically made neoliberalism mainstream for democrats.

July 26, 2016 - 16:52

Jaxson Bell

This fucking nigger has to start off by praising chicken. Fucking blacks.

July 26, 2016 - 16:53

Michael Cruz

ITT

July 26, 2016 - 16:57

Carter Fisher

That's fucking Chris-Chan logic.

July 26, 2016 - 17:02

Caleb Smith

well, that's it. I'm out. I'm gonna fucking puke if I subject myself to anymore of this.

July 26, 2016 - 17:05

Dominic Smith

ALREADY GREAT NATION

TRUMP BTFO

DEMS WIN

July 26, 2016 - 17:07

Landon Lee

now ya see, this is the rhetoric that will kill the democrats in the general.
Dems right now are the living embodiment of the "this is fine" meme

July 26, 2016 - 17:11

Anthony Lewis

I had a dream that Hillary got blown out completely by Donald Trump. Like, he had twice as many votes as her.

I basically just spent the dream laughing.

July 26, 2016 - 17:13

Nathan Flores

lmao, no. There's not a single libertarian party of consequence anywhere, because at the end of the day they're spergs that didn't outgrow the FUCK YOU DAD YOU DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO phase of their teenage years

July 26, 2016 - 17:16

Hudson Parker

And Rick Scott, who was one of the first people to endorse Trump. Florida is GOP.

Michegan and Wisconsin WERE blue. Over the past five years they've become Republican, so much so that both are now Right-To-Work states. This was unthinkable even 20 years ago. And both are ruled entirely by the GOP. Do you even remember the huge protests against Walker? He has single handedly destroyed the Democrats there.

Yet TOTAL turnout gives us 28,584,625 Republicans against 27,834,835 Democrats. Trump is a threat and was the moment Hilary became the presumptive nominee.

July 26, 2016 - 17:18

Kayden Cooper

Yeah, all the Batista Cuban immigrants are extremely reactionary. Only Hispanic dude I've met who supports Trump is a Cuban immigrant.

July 26, 2016 - 17:22

Gavin Carter

For reference, in 2008 it was 20,929,304 Republicans vs 35,029,294 Democrats. The GOP's base has grown by 8 million, the Democrats down 8 million.

July 26, 2016 - 17:23

Nathan Long

It's probably because he's operating from the inevitable-march-of-history view that Dems have adopted, i.e. muh future Democratic super-majority ("If McCain and Romney were utterly disconnected clowns that thought America was hungry for Bush 3.0, ergo every Republican contender until the end of the party itself will be a disconnected country club Republican clown")

July 26, 2016 - 17:25

Jack Bailey

What I don't get is how none of them can see it. The Democrats Union base is gone, their attempt to create a new coalition of white collar types and prole nonwhites has totally failed. The entire Rust Belt (which used to be the Industrial Belt) has been hollowed out and votes Republican. Even formerly hardcore Democrat districts can't scrape together enough voters as young people move to a handful of big cities (LA, Chicago, NYC), and gerrymandering.

The entire country is slipping away from them and all they do is push the same neoliberal garbage and think that their fortunes will reverse.

July 26, 2016 - 17:30

Leo Rodriguez

according to neoliberal doctrine, a Trump presidency is impossible by definition. This is what happens when you drink the establishment koolaid.

July 26, 2016 - 17:34

Charles Carter

In related news, Shaun King just said he was going to vote for Shillary to stop Trump
nydailynews.com/news/election/king-stop-donald-trump-voting-hillary-clinton-article-1.2726614

July 26, 2016 - 17:39

Nathan Nelson

Almost every single person since 1945 that has pushed for a neoliberal future is a man but sure the moment a woman wants to be a neoliberal its our fault.

July 26, 2016 - 18:01

Isaiah Cook

It is, you and your leaders like the bitch who stood down and Hillery are corrupt, it's not neoliberalism, it's how you fucking walking vaginas think you can get away with anything.

July 26, 2016 - 18:12

Daniel Morales

Holy shit they cannot shut up about the world trade center attacks. This shit happened 15 years ago and they're still using it. If I didn't see any labels I'd think this was a Republican convention.

July 26, 2016 - 18:13

Hunter Moore

That's because Trump IS a neoliberal candidate.

July 26, 2016 - 18:15

Jaxon Phillips

No it isn't.

"you and your leaders"

Who represents the men of the world? Lebron James? Bill Pullman? Bruce Willis?

The ironing

July 26, 2016 - 18:15

Elijah Watson

Walking vaginas

July 26, 2016 - 18:16

Jackson Smith

What is the DNC.

July 26, 2016 - 18:16

Carter Nguyen

No wrong context, I was mocking you

July 26, 2016 - 18:17

Sebastian Watson

GOOD OLD NINE ELEVEN!
What the fuck am I watching, What are they trying to even say with all this shit?
Are they just using this to make Hillery not look like a monster? If so what a fucking monster.

July 26, 2016 - 18:20

Hudson Sullivan

It's the fear. They want you to be afraid.

July 26, 2016 - 18:20

Gavin Parker

Am I a bad person if I want to see what happens if Trump wins just for shits and giggles? Not American and it's not like Trump have any foreign policy other than bombing the shit out of ISIS

July 26, 2016 - 18:22

Jason Rogers

BAGELS

July 26, 2016 - 18:24

Chase Green

Because they don't want to see it. People mock full/pol/ and half/pol/ (usually rightfully) for being circlejerks, but Democrat elites and their sycophants in academia, media etc live in a similar circlejerk. The best example is Trump, which until his victory in the Republican primary the view was "I don't know anyone who supports Trump, therefore only a handful of racist rednecks in the Deep South support him, calm down everyone"

I wouldn't count stuff like the Wall, restricting Muslim travel to the States, or his wanting to renegotiate trade deals with China as "neo-liberal"

July 26, 2016 - 18:25

Jose Nguyen

I want to see Hillary get elected just to see disappointed infuriated Holla Forumsyps talking about how their lives aren't worth living anymore tbh.

Like. I don't want either of these people anywhere near power but one of them will. I'd bet on Hillary just for the Holla Forumsyp schadenfreude.

July 26, 2016 - 18:25

Henry Davis

I would count "bombing the middle east into glass" and "kill the families of Muslim terrorists" and 'we must go to war" as neoliberal. Absolutely. Both of these people are fucking evil.

Stop being particular.

July 26, 2016 - 18:26

Easton Clark

...

July 26, 2016 - 18:26

Sebastian Roberts

I never said I'm voting for the cunt. I'd just rather mock people who never win in life if I want to take anything away from this election.

July 26, 2016 - 18:28

Josiah Moore

He pretends to be anti-establishment but Trump is a neoliberal and his entire candidacy is built on the fact that neoliberalism has fucked the entire country sideways. Clintonites are basically the only people left dumb enough who defend neoliberalism as a concept.

July 26, 2016 - 18:28

Chase Martin

BERNIE, WHY'D YOU LET LARRY DOWN

July 26, 2016 - 18:29

Dylan Clark

...

July 26, 2016 - 18:29

Isaiah Cooper

So you're a neoliberal as well?

July 26, 2016 - 18:30

Kevin Cooper

She's a woman, it's not her fault.

July 26, 2016 - 18:30

Jack Garcia

If that's the case then why are you voting for and defending Trump for "not being neoliberal" and "being against the establishment'.

You really shouldn't want Trump to be president because your rejection of neoliberalism will look rather ironic.

I'm a neoliberal for mocking jobless Holla Forumsyps.

July 26, 2016 - 18:30

Brandon Collins

It seems like we're still in Phase 1 of "Hillary Leaks". I'm guessing there's no more than 4, possibly only 2. One thing's for sure, he's getting Phase 2 ready and it will probably be ready before the 28th. He retweeted an article where they quoted him as saying he had more, which seems like he's being a cheeky lil cunt and teasing us.

Not yet. She can still be forced to drop out if the polling and other issues continue.

Holy shit, who said this? I'm fucking triggered. She is completely the opposite of a friend to Puerto Rico. She and her husband have both fucked us over.

This would be the ace in the shit-hole. The FBI would be forced to change its recommendation. Remember, Comey is probably investigating the Clinton Foundation as well.

Exactles. The only way for him to maintain his influence was to play nice. Of course he could've gone ape and tried a coup or something crazy, and it had a good chance of working. But there was too much at stake. If he had failed the yellow dogs/new dems would have consolidated power and effectively kicked out the entire progressive wing.
Besides, there are plenty more opportunities for Clinton not to be on the ballot come November. Had he gone independent or green he would still have to hope/wait for Clinton to self-destruct or get fucked by the FBI or WikiLeaks or both anyways. This way he is still crossing his fingers and he has a backup plan for if all else fails, which is maintaining his influence in the party. If you think people are going to forget about what the DNC did I can assure you that you're wrong, the next time Hillary gets a nuke dropped on her ass people won't forget the DNC either.

No, that's just how he's going to be registered in the Senate for his term starting in 2012. He's still a Democrat and will probably run as such in 2018.

gay post
I always hated the pledge too.
Deys Mad

July 26, 2016 - 18:30

Nolan Barnes

for real someone needs to go RFK on her ass

July 26, 2016 - 18:31

Hunter Phillips

These were Republican memes well before Trump cranked them up to 11. Are the Republicans not neoliberal either?

But that's the thing, they're just memes, like

It's all talk. Didn't he basically admit he wants to delegate everything to Pence anyway, who's a mega-porker in his own right.

July 26, 2016 - 18:31

Thomas Thomas

Again, says the person defending Trump on the count of "not being neoliberal"

July 26, 2016 - 18:31

Leo Scott

Bernie didn't let Larry down. We did. This Nation did.

It's why he doesn't live here anymore.

July 26, 2016 - 18:31

Easton Gray

Just ignore Holla Forums friendy

July 26, 2016 - 18:31

Jackson Brooks

Yes he did. He wants him to be the Cheney to his Bush

July 26, 2016 - 18:31

Adam Wood

It's okay honey, no one is voting for Trump here. His a big meanie who said mean things after all.

July 26, 2016 - 18:32

Jonathan Foster

If your defense of Trump is people being insulted he's as tasteless and stupid as he is, that's a pretty ridiculous defense. Shouldn't even be focused on more than it already is.

July 26, 2016 - 18:32

Nathaniel Sullivan

Its funny how they try to act like its only the Republicans that use fear.

July 26, 2016 - 18:32

Justin Russell

And yet Hillary's the bad guy ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

July 26, 2016 - 18:33

Jack Nguyen

You're gay post

July 26, 2016 - 18:34

Aiden Diaz

kek, no. On Mexico the "Republican meme" was "we need to amnesty them to get naturally conservative hispanics to vote Republican".
And did everyone forget how much he got shat on by other Republican politicians for saying Muslim travel should be restricted.

July 26, 2016 - 18:34

Christian Ward

...

July 26, 2016 - 18:35

Dominic Rodriguez

BREAKING

Jill Stien, BLM, OWS and all the locked out B████ delegates and supporters are representing outside of the convention hall:

youtube.com/watch?v=nhI8ULCKxpo

unicornriot.ninja/?page_id=216

if you got a twatter/kikebook, please spread it. Porky's troops are going to be making a lot of arrests tonight and we can't let the mainstream media cover it up

July 26, 2016 - 18:35

Lincoln Foster

Isn't really capitalism incarnate if Trump is also capitalism is incarnate

July 26, 2016 - 18:36

Nolan Jenkins

It's their only weapon. If they start talking policy, they could risk alienating someone.

I'm sure Hillary has an entire candy store filled with middle of the road, centrist policy she wants to implement, but B████ poisoned it against her.

July 26, 2016 - 18:36

Benjamin Murphy

Anyone else think that he left after giving over the votes because he was about to break down in tears or disgust? I'm pretty sure he feels completely sick right now.

Spreading

July 26, 2016 - 18:36

Ryan Rivera

Back in 2012 Herman Cain, the flavor of the month, was joking about how he wanted a fucking moat along the border filled with alligators

Trump is nothing new

July 26, 2016 - 18:37

Isaac Rivera

You're acting like the Republican party is a monolith outside of Trump. My great-grandma came up with the wall at least ten years before he did, same with the Muslims bit.

July 26, 2016 - 18:37

Nolan Kelly

Maybe she'll be cell mates with Hillary

July 26, 2016 - 18:38

Hunter Gonzalez

Holla Forums's laughing at us again.

July 26, 2016 - 18:40

Evan Taylor

Well I guess I'm never watching another Elizabeth Banks film. Shame, she was kinda cute.

July 26, 2016 - 18:40

Ethan Stewart

Who's us. Nobody here is a democrat

July 26, 2016 - 18:41

Benjamin Johnson

No ethical consumption etc

July 26, 2016 - 18:41

Nathan Powell

Anyone got that screencap of the user talking about how not voting is not the same as voting for Trump?

July 26, 2016 - 18:43

Caleb Garcia

No but I have this.

July 26, 2016 - 18:44

Kayden Wood

Have you lads seen this, youtube.com/watch?v=RvO3qV8kNVA

July 26, 2016 - 18:46

Jordan Miller

That graph is completely shitty.

July 26, 2016 - 18:48

Robert Edwards

What am I being indoctrinated with?

July 26, 2016 - 18:48

Jace Carter

archive.is/cPd0W
Cracked.com, aka that one funny comedy website that hasn't been funny in years, is here to lecture us about how B████bros are going to put Trump in the white house

July 26, 2016 - 18:48

Jeremiah Jackson

Agreed, those graphs are always shitty but I agreed with the majority of what he was saying apart from that.

July 26, 2016 - 18:50

Jacob Myers

Everybody keeps saying that. It's like they want it to happen so they can avoid responsibility for their shit candidate.

July 26, 2016 - 18:52

Easton Campbell

That, and they want to strange the growing left in its crib.

July 26, 2016 - 18:55

Alexander Ward

lmfao

July 26, 2016 - 18:56

Evan Sanders

top kek

But really great job putting words in my mouth you worthless shitposter

July 26, 2016 - 18:59

Easton Smith

I'm voting for Clinton which is why I said I hate and am not voting for Clinton.

The most support I have is it would be fucking hilarious to see Holla Forums sob and moan about how their lives are over if she wins.

July 26, 2016 - 19:00

Connor Robinson

Amen sister.

July 26, 2016 - 19:05

Brandon Ortiz

No need to get mad you're probably not who I'm talking about.

July 26, 2016 - 19:06

Thomas Johnson

Pathetic!

July 26, 2016 - 19:07

Austin Thomas

Angry

July 26, 2016 - 19:08

Brody Powell

That's not me.

July 26, 2016 - 19:08

Carson White

Angry

July 26, 2016 - 19:08

Jaxson Peterson

Or is it…

July 26, 2016 - 19:08

Brandon Morgan

This is pathetic.

July 26, 2016 - 19:09

Joseph Gonzalez

Smash the patriarchy

July 26, 2016 - 19:09

Andrew Gonzalez

Jesus christ, this happening is making this thread turn to trash.

July 26, 2016 - 19:09

Isaac Hernandez

Feminism is bad because Sargon and TJ said so

July 26, 2016 - 19:10

Robert Hall

i blame anfems

July 26, 2016 - 19:10

Alexander Mitchell

No one here is actually like this. This is just some Holla Forums samefag

July 26, 2016 - 19:10

Liam Morales

What's with the idpol in this thread

Are Holla Forumstards really that mad there's an anarchofeminism flag?

July 26, 2016 - 19:10

Colton Parker

I wish bill would rape me.

July 26, 2016 - 19:12

Matthew Moore

TRUMP IS THE REAL OPERATION PERESTROIKA
TRUMP IS THE REAL OPERATION PERESTROIKA
TRUMP IS THE REAL OPERATION PERESTROIKA
TRUMP IS THE REAL OPERATION PERESTROIKA
TRUMP IS THE REAL OPERATION PERESTROIKA

1. HE HAS AIDES WITH DEEP RUSSIAN TIES
2. ONE OF HIS CHIEF FOREIGN POLICY ADVISORS IS A REGULAR ON RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA TV
3. HIS CAMPAIGN MANAGER HAS A HISTORY OF PUTTING PUTIN LACKEYS INTO POWER
4. HE HAS BUSINESS TIES TO RUSSIAN OLIGARCHS
5. HE HOSTED THE MISS USA PAGEANT IN MOSCOW
6. RUSSIAN HACKERS ARE TRYING TO HURT THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN
7. THE ONLY CHANGE HIS CAMPAIGN DEMANDED OF THE REPUBLICAN PLATFORM WAS TO REMOVE LANGUAGE ABOUT DEFENDING UKRAINE FROM RUSSIAN AGGRESSION
8. HE HAS DOUBLED DOWN ON HIS PROMISE TO NOT HELP NATO ALLIES IF THEY WERE ATTACKED BY RUSSIA
9. THE TRUMP ORGANIZATION IS HEAVILY LEVERAGED BY RUSSIAN BANKS BECAUSE AMERICAN BANKS WILL NOT TOUCH HIM. HE IS BLACKBALLED BY EVERY MAJOR US BANK. HE OWES THE RUSSIANS A LOT OF MONEY
10. PUTIN ENDORSED TRUMP AND HE CALLED IT A "GREAT HONOR"
11. PUTIN HAS GOTTEN COZY WITH OTHER EUROPEAN RIGHT WING NATIONALISTS WHO WANT TO BREAK UP THE EU
12. PUTIN SUPPORTED FRANCE'S MARINE LE PEN AND THE NATIONAL FRONT PARTY
13. PUTIN SUPPORTED THE FASCIST GOLDEN DAWN IN GREECE
14. PUTIN SUPPORTED ITALY'S FORMER PRIME MINISTER SILVIO BERLUSCONI, SUSPECTED TO BE BENEFITING PERSONALLY FROM SECRET ENERGY DEALS WITH RUSSIA
15. RUSSIA FUNNELED MONEY INTO PROPAGANDA SUPPORTING THE LEAVE VOTE IN BREXIT
16. TRUMP IS A FAR-RIGHT BUFFOON INDEBTED TO RUSSIAN ENTITIES JUST LIKE BERLUSCONI
17. TRUMP IS ESPOUSING A POLICY PLATFORM THAT WOULD WEAKEN THE WEST AND EMPOWER RUSSIA
18. TRUMP IS BENEFITING FROM TARGETED OPS BY RUSSIAN INTELLIGENCE
19. TRUMP HAS RELIED ON RUSSIAN INVESTORS TO BUY HIS PROPERTY AROUND THE WORLD
20. TRUMP HAS TAKEN NUMEROUS BUSINESS TRIPS TO MOSCOW
21. DONALD JR. OPENLY STATED TO 'SEEING A LOT OF MONEY POURING IN FROM RUSSIA'
22. THE TRUMP SOHO DEVELOPMENT IN MANHATTAN WAS SECRETLY FINANCED BY RUSSIA AND KAZAKHSTAN
23. TRUMP HAS SAID THAT HE WILL NOT DEFEND NATO ALLIES IF THE US IS NOT 'PROPERLY REIMBURSED,' WEAKENING THE PRINCIPLE OF GUARANTEED COMMON DEFENSE
24. RUSSIAN LEAKS OF DNC EMAILS (RELEASED ON WIKILEAKS, WHOSE FOUNDER JULIAN ASSANGE HOSTED A SHOW ON RUSSIA TODAY) TIMED TO JUST BEFORE NATIONAL CONVENTION, TARGETING ONLY THE DNC AND NOT ANY OTHER CAMPAIGN OR POLITICAL ORGANIZATION
25. TRUMP REFUSES TO RELEASE HIS TAX RETURNS, WHICH WOULD SHOW ANY COLLUSION WITH RUSSIA

TRUMP IS AN ACTUAL PUPPET CANDIDATE BY THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT. HE IS THE REAL OPERATION PERESTROIKA. Holla Forums HAS BEEN TAKEN IN BY THE FASCIST PROPAGANDA OF A RUSSIAN PSYOPS CAMPAIGN.

reverbpress.com/world/putin-is-not-fcking-around-american-democracy-is-under-attack/

July 26, 2016 - 19:12

Xavier Clark

No, it’s not.

A vote for John Politician is a vote for John Politician. Even if that politician stands no chance of winning its not a vote for anyone but that one. Anyone saying otherwise is trying to make a sell. They’re making a pitch, and I consider it tantamount to coercion. Ultimately they are trying to persuade you into voting for their candidate, and this stupid shit goes on with both major parties. This is made plain by the popular hashtag campaigns saying “anyone but Trump” or “never Hillary.” A sort of inter-party policing of votes using fear of the other side winning to herd votes into a particular politician’s favor.

Same goes for people who abstain from voting. A right is one that we can choose to exercise and it’s crucial to remember that distinction. I don’t have to speak against the government even if the government can’t jail me for it. I don’t have to own a gun even if I’m at liberty to do so. And I don’t have to vote even if I am able. If no candidate seems suitable to me or I disagree with the system as a whole or how it’s being operated, then I can and will stay home. And yes, I can complain about the elected candidate because I am a citizen of this country and it’s our muh privilege to do so. We work and pay taxes that pay for all of this. If I can’t complain because I didn’t vote, then the people who voted and whose candidate lost also can’t, because we did the same thing. We made a decision that was overruled by majority, but we at least know we didn’t have a hand in making the situation worse by risking putting in a candidate we had no faith in.

Some of us don’t want the lesser of two evils. We want no evils. We have exercised our right just as fully in abstaining as one can by voting.

July 26, 2016 - 19:13

Brayden Lewis

Fuck dude why

July 26, 2016 - 19:13

Brandon Moore

Stop making me want Trump, you cunt.

July 26, 2016 - 19:14

Nolan Lee

wow, not even one sentence before they started lying

July 26, 2016 - 19:14

Cameron Murphy

THIS IS BULLSHIT AND LIES REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

July 26, 2016 - 19:15

Nolan Evans

washingtonpost.com/world/putin-no-major-gaps-with-washington-over-efforts-to-end-syria-conflict/2015/12/17/a178255e-a431-11e5-8318-bd8caed8c588_story.html

July 26, 2016 - 19:16

Caleb Powell

Sad!!

July 26, 2016 - 19:16

Caleb Richardson

I was just being sarcastic user… come on now.

July 26, 2016 - 19:17

Liam Morgan

Take off the flag

July 26, 2016 - 19:18

Camden Walker

Uh excuse me? Why should I?

July 26, 2016 - 19:20

Lucas Morris

Because you're angry that feminists are on leftypol and conflate it with Hillary voting so I'm basically positive your from Holla Forums and angry because I said you're great sources of schadenfreude

July 26, 2016 - 19:21

Bentley Hill

Putin Praises Trump a lot but to me calling it an endorsement always sounded like fearmongering.

July 26, 2016 - 19:21

Christopher Sanchez

you're*

July 26, 2016 - 19:22

Connor Gray

fits the dictionary definition of endorse

July 26, 2016 - 19:22

Zachary Rogers

Wow user, do you want to build a strawman?

July 26, 2016 - 19:22

Isaiah Rivera

hey everyone start using the anfem flag

July 26, 2016 - 19:23

Lincoln Cook

Can you fucking cunts shut the fuck up.

On it fam.

July 26, 2016 - 19:23

Ian Morris

I like it, its vaguely close to daily dose

July 26, 2016 - 19:24

Jacob Brown

My plan has worked

July 26, 2016 - 19:24

Adam Sanchez

It's probably just an angry Tankie.

July 26, 2016 - 19:24

Henry Jenkins

thats fucking retarded dude, nobody will do it

July 26, 2016 - 19:24

Hudson Davis

Why live.

July 26, 2016 - 19:26

Caleb Davis

Time for some (You)s

July 26, 2016 - 19:26

Connor Morris

Fuggggggg I don't want to be incinerated

July 26, 2016 - 19:27

Christopher Sanders

If shillary had 4% of the charisma and energy that Bill has, she would be heads away from Trump.

July 26, 2016 - 19:27

Jack Bell

if Hillary was a dude, Berning Sandals would've won hands fucking down

we failed you Larry

youtu.be/6fdlkCwZR2c

July 26, 2016 - 19:28

Adrian Perry

All me tbh

July 26, 2016 - 19:28

Kayden Lee

Black lives matter and ows and some bernouts are rioting outside the DNC i hear, looks like some shill with anrachofemsnit flag is trying to distract people.
Anyways, wouldnt it be great if black people turned on the democratic party and voted green.

July 26, 2016 - 19:29

Joseph Barnes

#Demexit

SPAM THIS SHIT EVERYWHERE

July 26, 2016 - 19:29

Alexander Davis

Water is wet.

Make sure they get out on tumbler too, spam the tags.

July 26, 2016 - 19:33

Christian Cooper

kek

July 26, 2016 - 19:34

Levi Gomez

that last pic is horrifying.
Why would you do this to me.

July 26, 2016 - 19:39

Luis Watson

g-g-guys?
twitter.com/islamlie2/status/758126306211074050

July 26, 2016 - 19:40

Zachary Jones

This is incorrect. The GOP primary was simply more energetic than the Dem one (politico.com/magazine/story/2016/05/donald-trump-2016-polling-turnout-early-voting-data-213897).

Not to say that shouldn't be worrisome to Hildawg, because it should be. But there's a difference between expanding the base and energizing the base. There's some ridiculous statistic out there than in 2014 2,000,000 more votes were cast for Democratic congressional seats than GOP ones, but the GOP won the house in a landslide because of Gerrymandering. But Gerrymandering doesn't matter in the Presidential election.

Trump needs to expand the GOP base while Hildog needs to consolidate support. She should just let S█████, Kaine, and Bildawg campaign for her. She's almost as robotic as Romney was.

July 26, 2016 - 19:42

Owen Bennett

Oh boy, here come the spin doctors.

July 26, 2016 - 19:42

Leo Butler

twitter.com/Breaking911/status/758126313064501249
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON OVER THERE?

July 26, 2016 - 19:43

Noah Flores

On one hand I'm proud of the Sanderistas, but on the other hand this is going to make terrible PR for the left.

July 26, 2016 - 19:43

Jaxson Hughes

...

July 26, 2016 - 19:45

Ryder Walker

It was burned, so I guess we'll never know.

July 26, 2016 - 19:46

James Gonzalez

youtube.com/watch?v=7Rmf_zc-zx4
Anyone else watching?

July 26, 2016 - 19:46

Isaiah Sanchez

Just because Holla Forums dislikes Israel due to racism doesn't mean there's not legitimate reasons to be against their war crimes.

July 26, 2016 - 19:48

Blake Anderson

obviously but they're burning a fucking B████ or Bust sign ffs

July 26, 2016 - 19:49

Evan Jones

They took a hostage outside of DNC
Cop has been taken HOSTAGE at the DNC
twitter.com/BreakingDNC/status/34340123948573

July 26, 2016 - 19:49

Gabriel Walker

See?
Even with the anfem flag on, you still can make sense!

July 26, 2016 - 19:49

Christopher Gray

Good one.

July 26, 2016 - 19:50

Ryder Bell

I don't think anyone here is arguing otherwise

July 26, 2016 - 19:50

Carter Rogers

FUCK YOU

July 26, 2016 - 19:50

Christian Carter

It's one of those weird internet vs. real life things were the Republicans love Israel while Holla Forums hates them, while most of the politicians speaking out against Israel are on the left while "progressive" keyboard slacktivists are rabidly pro-Israel

July 26, 2016 - 19:50

Bentley Brooks

aaaaay lmao bullshit!>>819421

July 26, 2016 - 19:51

Landon Martinez

...

July 26, 2016 - 19:51

Logan Young

twitter.com/colin_deppen/status/758106350052184064
interesting

July 26, 2016 - 19:52

Luke Cook

HERE WE GO

July 26, 2016 - 19:52

Jack Bennett

I actually left it on on accident.

July 26, 2016 - 19:54

Jaxon Nelson

Im telling you, this is the year of the fire monkey!…..anything can happen
If we can convince black people, OWS, and the bernouts to vote green party that would be a giant message to the DNC an shillary.
Especially if they lost black peoples support.

July 26, 2016 - 19:55

David Murphy

twitter.com/colin_foxnews11/status/758306350052184346
Bernie and his brother FOUND DEAD
"HEART ATTACK" WHILE FALLING OUT OF A BURNING BUILDING (((ACCIDENT)))

July 26, 2016 - 19:55

Jose Thompson

Yes goy, and then Trump will WIN! Ahahahaha!

July 26, 2016 - 19:56

Luis Morales

AHAHAHHAHA YES….YES

July 26, 2016 - 19:56

Logan Edwards

STAPH!

July 26, 2016 - 19:56

Isaac Scott

and as usual, none of this shit is on any network, even Fox

July 26, 2016 - 19:56

Brayden Jones

Yes goy, hillarry is better than trump because reasons

July 26, 2016 - 19:56

Nicholas Perry

c'mon now, it has to at least be believable

July 26, 2016 - 19:56

James Morris

turnout might as well mean support. Support isn't support if voters can't be fucked to turn out

July 26, 2016 - 19:57

Juan Hill

"Terry McAuliffe: Clinton will defy progressives, support Trans-Pacific Partnership"

washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/26/terry-mcauliffe-predicts-hillary-clinton-will-supp/

July 26, 2016 - 19:57

Brandon Hall

LET'S GO

July 26, 2016 - 19:59

Eli Price

I can't wait to see people try and defend her on this

July 26, 2016 - 19:59

Jeremiah Johnson

p-protectionism is actually just racism :^(

July 26, 2016 - 19:59

Juan Morris

...

July 26, 2016 - 20:00

Jaxson Lopez

Tim Kaine literally said that people complaining about free trade had a "loser's mentality" (let alone her earlier support for both the TPP and NAFTA)

inb4 anfem reminds us yet again that s/he wants to see Hillary win to make Holla Forumsyps butthurt

July 26, 2016 - 20:02

Colton Davis

Anybody got a periscope or youtube of the march?

July 26, 2016 - 20:03

Zachary Williams

Wow user fucking let it go already.

July 26, 2016 - 20:04

Colton Evans

It's such a good joke though.

You, I mean.

July 26, 2016 - 20:06

Jayden King

...

July 26, 2016 - 20:06

Isaiah Richardson

boomers and their lapdogs, Gen-X, are the worst generations ever to exist

July 26, 2016 - 20:07

Joseph Walker

Here's your (You)

July 26, 2016 - 20:08

Dominic Lewis

Where did she even insult men

July 26, 2016 - 20:09

Ryder Perry

...

July 26, 2016 - 20:10

Nathaniel Walker

youtube.com/watch?v=7Rmf_zc-zx4
There's this. I don't know any other stream.

July 26, 2016 - 20:11

Jackson Cook

Where did I imply I was thinking with my vagina. Stop thinking with your prostate

July 26, 2016 - 20:11

Charles Powell

...

July 26, 2016 - 20:12

Parker Hughes

JUST

July 26, 2016 - 20:13

Lincoln Russell

...

July 26, 2016 - 20:13

Hudson Foster

What the fuck user? GET WITH THE TIMES AND MEMES.

July 26, 2016 - 20:13

Logan Young

Tomoko died in 2011

July 26, 2016 - 20:14

Julian Torres

F

July 26, 2016 - 20:14

Charles Harris

THE WITCH IS ON, SHOOT HER!

July 26, 2016 - 20:14

Evan Howard

just like your mother

July 26, 2016 - 20:14

Jonathan Brooks

My mother is alive

July 26, 2016 - 20:15

Elijah Brown

lol prerecorded video? She doesn't even have the guts to address the convention live?

July 26, 2016 - 20:16

Jackson Roberts

Someone shoot this bitch

July 26, 2016 - 20:16

Jordan Richardson

This is a good sign. It means she's scared

July 26, 2016 - 20:17

Wyatt Brooks

porky's troops have come over from their side of the fence, and are going to start walking people back

periscope.tv/w/1eaKbLXlARaJX

July 26, 2016 - 20:18

Levi Morales

When was the last time you checked? :^]

July 26, 2016 - 20:19

Jeremiah Gutierrez

there's 5,000 angry people outside the convention hall, even if she gets in getting out is another question

July 26, 2016 - 20:19

Ethan Taylor

Yesterday

July 26, 2016 - 20:19

Daniel Sanchez

periscope.tv/w/1eaKbLXlARaJX

Holla Forums's choice:

youtube.com/watch?v=pXbuP19AWDM

July 26, 2016 - 20:20

Jackson Williams

Thank fuck it's over, well I'm off. I plan to off my self with my fav booze. I pray to the god who let this happen, that I do not wake.

July 26, 2016 - 20:20

Aiden Nguyen

The democrats are already mocking you. They think you'll come back to fold and vote Hillary.

July 26, 2016 - 20:22

Andrew Harris

twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/758138047938502656

lads…

July 26, 2016 - 20:22

Jordan Collins

user, I

July 26, 2016 - 20:23

Asher Phillips

They think they can buy and sell our fucking votes… fucking Biden.

July 26, 2016 - 20:23

Ryder Martin

I hope Trump takes the ouster of [REDACTED]'s delegates from the building and rips the DNC a new vagina with it, since no "leftist" outlet seems willing to make a peep.

July 26, 2016 - 20:24

Jace Walker

...

July 26, 2016 - 20:25

Carson Miller

Is this periscope not playing for anyone else? Says connected but I'm not getting dick for video here.

July 26, 2016 - 20:25

Christopher Ramirez

welp, I'm going to binge watch some star trek, get my ass kicked in overwatch, then try to work out a future with one of these chucklefucks at the helm. Guess it's back to my bourgie survivalist ways for the next 4 years

July 26, 2016 - 20:27

Brody Fisher

The periscope video has people chanting blacklivesmatter and bashing cops. I also think i heard someone mention Micah Johnson.

July 26, 2016 - 20:27

Christopher Turner

Go get Jill Stein on your state's ballot you fuck.

July 26, 2016 - 20:27

Benjamin Taylor

The democrats have convinced me to register as an independent and vote for Trump. They don't give no more of a fuck about me than Trump does so why the fuck not?

July 26, 2016 - 20:28

Ryan Thompson

Dude it's a SALT MINE here.
I've been screenshotting this SALT all day.
Fucking SALT MINES bro.
We're BLUE COLLAR BRO.

July 26, 2016 - 20:29

Luke Baker

first, pretty sure she's there and I'm voting for her anyway, second, she won't win and you know it. One of these lunatics is going to be president, and it's not going to be her, the best thing any of us can do is brace for impact

July 26, 2016 - 20:29

Ayden Fisher

don't do it philly

July 26, 2016 - 20:30

Jace Turner

SHOOT EM PHILLY

July 26, 2016 - 20:30

Carson Anderson

We can try to get her over 5% and secure public funding for next election and volunteer to build the party between cycles.

July 26, 2016 - 20:31

Joshua Lee

Periscope just disconnected

July 26, 2016 - 20:32

Ethan Ward

But, comrade, most of that money will go toward bail.

July 26, 2016 - 20:32

Bentley Lopez

LINK!

July 26, 2016 - 20:33

Michael Sanders

Honestly at this point you're voting for Pence, who seems less shitty than Trump, but not significantly less so, what with the supreme court and all

July 26, 2016 - 20:33

Henry Morales

I somewhat regret not approaching Rep. Lewis when I saw him in Philly on Monday

Although it would have been a terrible idea honestly especially since I'm a FUCKING WHITE MALE

July 26, 2016 - 20:33

Jacob Baker

I'll do what I can but I'm practically disabled, can't do much, can barely do housework these days

July 26, 2016 - 20:33

Camden Gray

COLLABORATORS
MUST
DIE.

July 26, 2016 - 20:34

Bentley Miller

periscope.tv/w/1eaKbLXlARaJX

July 26, 2016 - 20:34

Mason Gonzalez

I can live with that.

July 26, 2016 - 20:34

Luke Wilson

If anything he's worse than Trump

July 26, 2016 - 20:35

Aaron Jenkins

see

July 26, 2016 - 20:35

Carson Price

it could be worse, Kaisch killed Ohio high speed rail. Pence at least put money into the Wolverine and kept the Hooiser State (a train from Chicago to Indianpolis) alive

July 26, 2016 - 20:36

Bentley Rivera

I notice that Hillary said that getting nominated for president is the "Biggest Crack in the Glass Ceiling Yet!"

Nice not saying that the glass ceiling is broken, Hillary. Gotta keep up that boogeyman so feminists don't realize how hard your swindling them.

July 26, 2016 - 20:36

Jackson Sanders

That's because it's not broken.

July 26, 2016 - 20:37

Bentley Williams

Of course not. It never will be.

It's like the "revolution" in North Korea. It's an excuse for assholes to abuse power.

July 26, 2016 - 20:39

Christopher Davis

This and if she does well enough they can no longer lock Greens out of presidential debates.

July 26, 2016 - 20:41

Jose Bell

Absolutely bourgeois

July 26, 2016 - 20:42

Ethan Hernandez

Why does Jill suck so much in the PR department? how the fuck is the Libertard more popular?

July 26, 2016 - 20:43

Aiden Baker

Did you really think your satirical humor sites would be safe from the Clinton Campaign?

Nothing is personal. Nothing is safe. There is no you, only the Party.

July 26, 2016 - 20:43

Jeremiah Clark

whatever you say bro

July 26, 2016 - 20:44

Grayson Howard

She's got kind of a weak voice to be honest.

July 26, 2016 - 20:44

Jack Rogers

shit's all fake, they buy that shit. hillary was sitting at like 6.5 million months and months ago

July 26, 2016 - 20:45

Owen Evans

I had a feeling the Onion was getting cucker as time went on… RIP.

July 26, 2016 - 20:45

Luis Roberts

I think you should reread his post, you misinterpreted.

July 26, 2016 - 20:46

Jayden Roberts

kek

July 26, 2016 - 20:46

Leo Hughes

are they playing the fucking darth vader theme

July 26, 2016 - 20:46

Gabriel Hall

Gary Johnson's better at social media, does livestreams and such.

July 26, 2016 - 20:47

Lincoln Rodriguez

Holla Forums confirmed on scene

July 26, 2016 - 20:48

Christopher Gonzalez

am i the only one having trouble with the stream right now?

July 26, 2016 - 20:49

Angel Barnes

Watch the violence is about to start now, the protestors for B████ will get trampled by cops here. You thought you could just protest outside the dnc?

July 26, 2016 - 20:50

Jaxson Phillips

Same fam. Keeps cutting off.
Please people don't take this laying down do something tonight get angry, they took our future from us from all of us!

July 26, 2016 - 20:50

Noah Perry

no, it keeps cutting in and out for me as well

July 26, 2016 - 20:50

Grayson Mitchell

This is a pretty good video summing up events so far.
Spread it far and wide friendos

youtube.com/watch?v=jogUNIirv4U&feature=youtu.be

July 26, 2016 - 20:54

Mason Ramirez

new stream when

July 26, 2016 - 20:57

Caleb Reed

If you read the dncleaks you would know their strategy is to pander to progressives and minorities and then as soon as they get in office pal around with wall street and uphold the oligarchy

July 26, 2016 - 21:00

Lincoln Ross

user's look this and tell me what's wrong with this picture… Give up? See the guy on the right? What about the girl near the clock?

July 26, 2016 - 21:05

Thomas King

I don't see it

July 26, 2016 - 21:06

Blake Powell

I hate these fucking cunts. They're conservatives who think having less """privilege""" makes them progressive. I can't stand to listen to them.

How can they make an economy that works for everyone when they can't even make an election that works for everyone?

Will Clinton ever actually speak at the DNC in person? I dream of rushing the stage and killing her with my bare hands.

July 26, 2016 - 21:06

Ryan Stewart

I can't into webm, I tried, still too fucking huge, so I uploaded it to pomf

a.pomf.cat/mzwpnf.webm

July 26, 2016 - 21:07

Nathan Edwards

12:00 when stream was supposed to be around 11:00 so definitely not live.

July 26, 2016 - 21:09

Robert Long

One of them sorta looks like one of the Clintons friends who killed herself… huh…

July 26, 2016 - 21:09

Lucas Ward

got to it before I did, thanks m8

July 26, 2016 - 21:10

Isaiah Nguyen

She's broadcasting from hell with all the souls they took up until this point.

July 26, 2016 - 21:10

Ethan Myers

Oh wow I'm watching the replay now and that fucking bitch Fudge said "the ayes have it" on the Acclamation Vote for Presidential Nomination before they nays could even express themselves fully.

July 26, 2016 - 21:14

Christopher Hall

Fucking nigger.

July 26, 2016 - 21:18

Gabriel Bennett

ALL HAIL BIG SISTER

July 26, 2016 - 21:18

Cooper Bell

...

July 26, 2016 - 21:18

Cameron Murphy

jesus who thought this was a good idea

July 26, 2016 - 21:19

Julian Long

this looks like something the GOP would put in an attack ad

July 26, 2016 - 21:21

Jaxson Brooks

It sure is hard to get on the call-in line on C-SPAN. Shame I couldn't get on, I don't think I heard anything but smug ignorant dipshits on the line the entire time.

July 26, 2016 - 21:21

Ayden Watson

Of course she won't speak in person. She doesn't want to get booed, and there's a lot of angry bernouts and BLM types outside. Everything has been prerecorded, and since the bernouts have had their access revoked they can just play a video to the remaining audience who will shrug it off.

And then, starting Monday, she will pretend that none of this ever happened as she pivots to the right.

July 26, 2016 - 21:22

Lincoln Diaz

...

July 26, 2016 - 21:22

Nolan Smith

I'm convinced someone's trying to sabotage her campaign at this point.

July 26, 2016 - 21:22

Lucas Parker

Welcome to 1984. Are you ready for the third world war?

July 26, 2016 - 21:22

Jace Morris

But user, we were always at war with Russyria

July 26, 2016 - 21:23

Andrew Cruz

...

July 26, 2016 - 21:23

Luke Davis

youtube.com/watch?v=wngUsiLnL7k

July 26, 2016 - 21:23

Levi Gray

Why are some of you even convinced a third world war could even happen at this point

July 26, 2016 - 21:24

Carson Robinson

she's doing a shit-tier job campaigning. All she tweets about is begging B████ supporters to come to her.

July 26, 2016 - 21:24

Cooper Lopez

Because there are plenty of people willing to doom all further generations via risky business decisions damaging the earth's habitability, why not do it via war instead?

July 26, 2016 - 21:25

Gabriel Brown

Part of me feels like they're intentionally trying to throw the election for Trump, so they can spend the next four years blaming everything bad on "Bernie Bros"/progressives/anyone who dared to challenge Madame Secretary from the right, kinda like what happened in 2000.

July 26, 2016 - 21:25

Luke Cruz

what makes you think war is an impossiblity?

July 26, 2016 - 21:25

Jackson Harris

because the porkies who run America are greedy enough and evil enough to risk it

July 26, 2016 - 21:26

Lincoln Morgan

That's the stupidest thing I've ever fucking heard. None of these people want war in the first world, they want exploitable regions to wage war in.

What is the point of war in the 21st century if nobody makes a buck

July 26, 2016 - 21:26

Cameron Morris

That was what I was referencing yes, I've said that in a few of these threads for conventions and shit and you where the first person to notice that.

July 26, 2016 - 21:26

Owen Jackson

That's retarded no they're not. They're not going to risk their cash on first world war.

July 26, 2016 - 21:26

Ryan Turner

youtube.com/watch?v=zGRo1mH2_8w

July 26, 2016 - 21:27

Carter Ramirez

explain why NATO is inching closer and closer to Russia every day

July 26, 2016 - 21:28

Ethan Ward

But they did risk they cash on WWI.

July 26, 2016 - 21:29

Gabriel Wright

They're not going to wage war with Russia, they're going to wage war around Russia's borders. Or near enough.

Do you even know how geopolitics work what are you doing here

July 26, 2016 - 21:29

John Campbell

Tomorrow is going to be a mess. Take note: the place will be so empty that CNN and NBC won't move their cameras from the stage.

July 26, 2016 - 21:30

Jonathan Moore

First World war.

July 26, 2016 - 21:30

Jackson Roberts

and by doing that they risk Russian retaliation.

July 26, 2016 - 21:30

Sebastian Gomez

If you think that war in the first world can't make money, you've got a bad understanding of reality. Yes, nuclear catasrophe would be terrible for them but turning America or parts of Europe into warzones benefits them. A damaged western economy is an economy ripe for exploitation as it pretty much forces people in the west to compete directly with south east asia if they want to eat. A successfully destructive war in the west would lead to a global lower class and a global upper class controlling it all, which would be amazing for the rich.

July 26, 2016 - 21:31

Hudson Bell

jesus fuck, combined with the cult rhetoric this is one spooky scene.

July 26, 2016 - 21:31

Andrew Garcia

The major power in WWI was the first world.

July 26, 2016 - 21:32

Logan Parker

ahahahahahah fuck this cuntface
I am gonna get SO DRUNK on election night

July 26, 2016 - 21:33

Elijah Stewart

Even if the Russians don't retaliate directly that's still a hell of a lot of dead people through full blown proxy wars

July 26, 2016 - 21:33

William Murphy

Russia won't retaliate in a major area that isn't bordering it.

You have a shit understanding of Late Capital and Neoliberalism

In the first world you are never at threat of war. If you get it, it would be unplanned, and frankly, you would deserve it.

July 26, 2016 - 21:33

Alexander Gonzalez

I'm not supporting war with Russia you moron

July 26, 2016 - 21:34

Carter Myers

I missed Bill's speech and the ending, what happend?

July 26, 2016 - 21:34

Jack Morgan

You're acting like the war mongering is irrelevant just because it won't lead to a full blown world war.

July 26, 2016 - 21:35

Noah Sanchez

I think you would've been right in the 60s or 70s, but the past 30 years has been very specifically the globalist rich setting it up so that when the west ends up dying, they can jump ship and keep every bit of their capability to run things. They're specifically making sure that, whether by war or by economic turmoil as seen more and more often lately, should the US and the west cease to be an economic power they will profit off of it.

July 26, 2016 - 21:36

Nathaniel Wood

youtube.com/watch?v=Du2mLuK9edk
Very moving

July 26, 2016 - 21:37

Blake Moore

Estonia has been calling for permanent NATO troop presence. You can only do so much before Russia is forced to retaliate

July 26, 2016 - 21:37

Ethan Ramirez

Nah, they'll bus in more Clinton supporters, it will be a packed house, and they'll talk about how the B████ delegates eventually came around and embraced unity to try to get those watching at home to do the same.

July 26, 2016 - 21:37

Noah Barnes

You are just the definition of cancer

July 26, 2016 - 21:39

Nathan Foster

inthesetimes.com/article/19327/why-tim-kaine-is-a-smartand-progressivepick-for-vice-president
archive.is/UtvMH
Why Tim Kaine is a Smart—and Progressive—Pick for Vice President

July 26, 2016 - 21:40

Alexander Carter

This needs to be spread around.

July 26, 2016 - 21:41

Gavin Harris

I'm not acting like that. I'm in fact saying you should care more about it because they're selfish fucking asses won't risk war on their own soil anymore.

I just made that little dig because I knew you'd love it. I don't actually believe that.

Most people on leftypol do deserve to die in unprovoked attack however.

It's all a game of showmanship. It won't happen.

July 26, 2016 - 21:42

Ayden Cooper

spooky

July 26, 2016 - 21:43

Gabriel Garcia

no u

If you think that the ruling classes are not stupid enough to risk war you don't have any grounding in reality. The central foreign policy move of the Obama administration is the pivot to Asia. China has decided that the Pacific is big enough for two world powers and as usual the USA has disagreed. Skirmishes in southeast Asia could lead to full blown land wars any day. The national bourg of every major power plans for the decline and defeat of their enemy.

July 26, 2016 - 21:43

Nathaniel White

Time for me to play street fighter, drink, listen to wolff and read theory for the till election night.

See ya comrades.

July 26, 2016 - 21:43

Tyler Hernandez

...

July 26, 2016 - 21:43

Jack Jackson

Is anyone else going to vote for Trump out of spite? Call me nihilistic and with a wiked sense of humor but I think a Trump presidency will at least be interesting to watch. Either one will be disastrous. I feel like I have as much inclination to vote against Hillary as I do to vote against Trump. I might as well cast my vote just to spite the DNC as at least it would be democracy in action.

Sorry about the thread

July 26, 2016 - 21:44

Julian Garcia

It's too late for busing. They only have 14 hours (local time) left to round up enough people and get them to Philly. And this assumes that the protesters even let them in. Even at 34 hours (for tomorrow's event), it's a huge stretch to get enough people especially as it's a workday.

More likely (and, more cheaply) the'll tell the media not to pan off the stage.

July 26, 2016 - 21:44

Mason Baker

...

July 26, 2016 - 21:45

Benjamin Nelson

I don't think China would risk things at this point if the US actually pushed, in fifty years or so maybe, right now they're thinking long game.

July 26, 2016 - 21:45

John Davis

you think Porky can tolerate competition? Capitalism always leads to more war.
see also

July 26, 2016 - 21:45

Grayson Jenkins

...

July 26, 2016 - 21:45

Bentley Rivera

The marketplace is global now. It won't matter. Get your head out of the cloud.

July 26, 2016 - 21:46

Oliver Perez

...

July 26, 2016 - 21:47

Daniel Russell

...

July 26, 2016 - 21:48

Luke Adams

taking off your flag does shit, anfem.

July 26, 2016 - 21:48

Lucas Brooks

I never take off my flag.

July 26, 2016 - 21:49

Hunter Sanchez

Damn dude are you paranoid.

July 26, 2016 - 21:50

Gabriel Cruz

I think you have an optimistic view of what climate change will look like in the next decade.

July 26, 2016 - 21:51

Carter Lewis

...

July 26, 2016 - 21:51

Carter Foster

The market place was always global! That literally one of the base elements of capitalism!

Jesus christ you are so dumb.

July 26, 2016 - 21:52

Eli Miller

pretty sure we have more than one anfem shitposter

July 26, 2016 - 21:52

Aiden Robinson

That was the Holla Forums poster you ignoramus dick brain piece of shit

July 26, 2016 - 21:53

Ryan Nelson

It's time to stop lad.

Capital is a system of global exchange tbqh.

July 26, 2016 - 21:53

Adam Foster

No there's only one poster, actually.

July 26, 2016 - 21:53

Parker Jackson

That was me making fun of her.

I'm not Holla Forums dumbass.

July 26, 2016 - 21:53

Adrian Green

It's more global than its ever been. The market consequence of war in the first world outweighs the benefits for them

Jesus christ you are so dumb.

July 26, 2016 - 21:53

Josiah Taylor

There were five people pretending to be the anfem poster

July 26, 2016 - 21:54

Andrew Nguyen

The market consequence of war outweighed its benefit one hundred years ago.

Jesus christ you are so dumb.

July 26, 2016 - 21:54

Logan Robinson

I was the one that forgot to take off the flag when making a serious post though.

July 26, 2016 - 21:55

Evan Young

Here, let me make it easier.

SPREAD THIS

July 26, 2016 - 21:55

Luke Fisher

A hundred years ago nuclear deterrence and Late Capitalism consumerism weren't a problem

July 26, 2016 - 21:55

Christopher Lopez

No you do not understand capitalism. Since the fall of the Soviet Union world war had become more and more probable. Do you think that the us military spends billions planning and training just for war with China just for shits and giggles?

July 26, 2016 - 21:56

Henry Martinez

kek

July 26, 2016 - 21:56

Carson Bailey

The form of consumption remains the same as it has always been, as does the political-economy of foreign relations.

July 26, 2016 - 21:57

Leo Jackson

If it will happen. It won't be in the next 16 years. You really don't understand any of this.

July 26, 2016 - 21:57

Wyatt Anderson

Wrong

July 26, 2016 - 21:57

Jack Cooper

Not an argument.

July 26, 2016 - 21:58

Jayden Rogers

youtu.be/aZPinXurk1M?t=13m43s

Jill-senpai talking about Eugene Debs

July 26, 2016 - 21:58

Ian Walker

...

July 26, 2016 - 21:58

Luke Myers

Is the 3rd-world really any less wartorn than during the Cold War? It's not as fun without tanks and fighter jets anymore in lieu of people beheading eachother with sharpened shovels or whatever, but the death tolls are still appalling. I mean, that level of poverty and despotism naturally breeds dustups between all the little neofeudal feifdoms, it's just how life is there.

I'm either voting Stein or Trump. Even if Trump is completely fake, the rabid anti-neolib, anti-neocon, anti-PC nature of his supporters isn't. That's the sort of sledgehammer to the 2-party system we need at this juncture.

July 26, 2016 - 21:58

Kayden Thompson

...

July 26, 2016 - 21:59

Dominic Gutierrez

Did you look into your crystal ball for that one? Both candidates have all but promised to go to war with Iran, necessary to the total encirclement of China and Russia something neither of those world powers want. At the same time we have drought, climate disaster, etc. at unprecedented levels.

I don't promise to know the future, but the ruling class is always preparing for war and Americans have never been more ready than now and both candidates have promised to continue the drumbeat to its inevitable conclusion.

July 26, 2016 - 22:00

Charles Ramirez

Neoliberalism is more than just free trade agreements. Trump is completely for deregulation otherwise.

July 26, 2016 - 22:01

Liam Stewart

...

July 26, 2016 - 22:01

Alexander Rivera

...

July 26, 2016 - 22:02

Ayden Perez

Do you think capitalism in its current form isn't predictable in its war?

Nowhere did I suggest otherwise.

That drumbeat means that Russia will go to war in the surrounding regions and so will America. But never the two shall meet.

I thought you people weren't this naive

July 26, 2016 - 22:02

Elijah Diaz

Things would get worse.
Even if Trump was actually as good as his supporters thought he was voting for him wouldn't do this. The Pence pick made it clear that he's working with the RNC and they're working with him now. Vote 3rd party if this is your objective.

July 26, 2016 - 22:03

Dominic Jenkins

everyone ignore the shitposting and watch this

July 26, 2016 - 22:03

Jayden Foster

...

July 26, 2016 - 22:03

Logan Morales

...

July 26, 2016 - 22:03

Sebastian Reyes

nice trips

July 26, 2016 - 22:03

Justin Gonzalez

What do you do.

Keep in mind he's 300 pounds and has a super PAC meeting soon.

July 26, 2016 - 22:04

Dylan Reyes

all me

July 26, 2016 - 22:04

Isaac Morris

Sorry B████

July 26, 2016 - 22:05

Sebastian Flores

True, but even on the domestic front he's (at least in rhetoric) buckling from past Republican consensus to the point of admitting SS & Medicare/Medicaid aren't worth attacking.

The system is falling apart at the seams, we just need to keep punching.

The stuff about Trump giving the reins to Pence are just rumors. And like I said, even if Trump is completely hot air, the phenomenon he's unleashed isn't.

True, but that happens almost randomly. Iraq aside, ISIS was ultimately caused by people getting angry over leaked cables, and the African genocide du jour is on continual rotation.

July 26, 2016 - 22:08

Jace Fisher

Stick up for him while B████ tells me to let it happen.

July 26, 2016 - 22:08

Owen Powell

...

July 26, 2016 - 22:09

Bentley Sullivan

...

July 26, 2016 - 22:13

Brandon Campbell

I never said that and don't think it. What I am saying is that he's proven that he'll play ball with them and vice versa. That he's not just going to try to completely change the entire party whole cloth. As for his supporters they'll be placated if he killed the TPP and improved employment even by a bit and keep voting Republican. The only way that voting for him would actually hurt the 2 party system is if he manages to win and turns his back on everything he said, signs the TPP into law, and opens the border.

July 26, 2016 - 22:14

Blake Cox

...

July 26, 2016 - 22:17

Kevin Russell

Why didn't you stop it

July 26, 2016 - 22:18

Hunter Reyes

Why won't Stein take this fucking joker to the floor over that Nader spoiling 2000 bullshit?

July 26, 2016 - 22:25

Jaxon Sanchez

Stuff like that is what infuriates me so much about the SJW hivemind dominating leftism. Trump repeatedly emphasized a "great big beautiful door" in the proverbial wall, almost certainly meaning massive legal immigrant quotas, but nobody ever calls him on it. Even worse, illegal aliens are a tiny fraction of immigrants compared to legal immigrants, rendering the entire "debate" backwards on both sides. Instead, they're fixated on MUH POOR MEXICANS (but don't mention foreign aid or our export subsidies) MUH REFUGEES (but don't mention the coups we're responsible for and dictatorships we support) MUH IMMIGRANTS (but don't mention the overwhelming majority that can never leave).

If anyone prominent were willing to engage Trump on his own political turf, they tear him to ribbons and force him further from the establishment, but they never, ever do.

July 26, 2016 - 22:28

Tyler Miller

...

July 26, 2016 - 22:31

Josiah Ross

Because no-one in the bubble actually wants to reduce immigration. The Left wants immigrants to solidify its "gibs and idpol"-based political future, while the Right wants immigration because its good for business on all levels.

That's why the only places calling out Trump on not actually reducing immigration are places like 8/pol/ that will also call him a kike puppet of Israel to boot

July 26, 2016 - 22:42

Ethan Myers

Is this a new word filter?

July 26, 2016 - 22:50

Cameron Johnson

This literally never happens. All questions regarding the legitimacy of the Trump presidency are deferred to picture related.

Whenever an attack occurs on a non-contested dogma it's always explained away as the actions of an intruder.

July 26, 2016 - 22:51

David Anderson

...

July 26, 2016 - 22:53

Leo Ortiz

It did months ago (though who knows how many were sincere or just trolling) but regardless reducing all forms of immigration is simply outside the Overton window

No one's going to call Trump out on it because simply reducing illegal immigration via the Great Wall of Trump is controversial enough, let alone actually reducing legal immigration as well

July 26, 2016 - 22:56

Dominic Wright

Have we started the fire?

July 26, 2016 - 23:12

Gabriel Rogers

You're a big guy

July 26, 2016 - 23:17

Camden Phillips

Your fires rise comrades

July 26, 2016 - 23:18

Levi Johnson

They will bus in seat fillers and pay hobos if they have too, its all about the illusion of being popular.
The DNC leaks also proved the media is in collusion with them, so besides the young turks or alex jones fucking their shit up cnn and micrsoft news brodacsting company will help them cover shit up

July 27, 2016 - 00:16

Jacob Howard

...

July 27, 2016 - 00:27

Gavin Howard

alex jones is a walking meme with a huge following in the conspiracy and right wing community.

July 27, 2016 - 00:30

Wyatt Nelson

so this thread is interesting

reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/4uqe4f/i_think_we_found_the_dnc_whistleblower_two_shots/

July 27, 2016 - 00:36

Liam Edwards

I hope this whole shitfest has taught you fags a thing or two about reformism.

July 27, 2016 - 00:56

Samuel Thompson

Literally wut

July 27, 2016 - 01:02

Logan Howard

There was a great deal of meddling by other forces, of course, but that's the core of the thing.

July 27, 2016 - 01:08

Christian Myers

any word on that next batch of emails yet?

July 27, 2016 - 01:13

Easton Cox

ISIS formation predates the cable leaks though

July 27, 2016 - 01:13

Zachary Peterson

Isis is litterally Al Qaeda gone wild. They don't give a fuck about Wikileaks.

July 27, 2016 - 01:14

Brandon Price

They were just another generic rabble until they were able to seize and hold territory amid the chaos of the Syrian Civil War and ascend to LRA-grade infamy.

July 27, 2016 - 01:20

Benjamin Moore

That's not the first time they took some territory.

Why do you think Chechnya is "an integral part of Islamic Caliphate"?

July 27, 2016 - 01:32

Jack Miller

not really, they're more analogous to the Mongol Hordes, roving bands of bandits that rape, murder, and pillage, building nothing and destroying everything. Other terrorist groups, including Al Qaeda, don't generally cause destruction on the same level, not to say they aren't also shitty, but they are shitty in very different ways.

July 27, 2016 - 01:34

Samuel Anderson

So Trump wants to fill his potential cabinet with Billionaires:
forbes.com/sites/emmagoldberg/2016/07/25/sheldon-adelson-carl-icahn-and-other-forbes-picks-for-a-possible-trump-billionaire-cabinet/#4bab36b921be

July 27, 2016 - 01:36

Ryder Sanchez

a8 i'm tenggered

July 27, 2016 - 01:37

Ethan Stewart

Gary's icon looks like a ghost.

Orwell would be rolling in his grace.

SPREAD SPREAD SPREAD

July 27, 2016 - 01:39

Dylan Lewis

War and the Democratic National Convention
wsws.org/en/articles/2016/07/27/pers-j27.html

27 July 2016

July 27, 2016 - 01:40

Juan Hernandez

Andre Damon

July 27, 2016 - 01:40

Brody Clark

This is nothing short of the stupidest election ever. No you stupid bastards, I am not going to "strategically" vote because Seth Meyers told everyone to do that. The point of the voter isn't to robotically contribute to a pretense of legitimacy where there is only corruption and scandal. If I had my way the turnout would be so low that both candidates and their electoral bases would look like complete assholes.

July 27, 2016 - 01:47

Oliver Garcia

If clinton goes to war I sure as shit hope you american fucks will take to the streets like never before

July 27, 2016 - 01:57

Zachary Davis

THIS NEEDS MORE ATTENTION

July 27, 2016 - 01:59

Adam Diaz

how long till someone starts shooting some top politicians?
Honestly it's like the people have lost a spine. You've got a governor KNOWINGLY poisoning watersupplies and yet he's still in fucking office.
200 years ago breadshortages were sufficient putting someone at the guillotine.

July 27, 2016 - 02:13

Brayden Howard

The USA is currently swamped in an "anti-violence" ideology that permeates all aspects of our society. It's seen as something people did in the past, and those partaking in violence today for any reason are seen as barbaric and morally bankrupt. It's going to take a fucking lot to overcome it.

July 27, 2016 - 02:16

Liam Butler

Schools really push the pacifist/non-violence rhetoric. When they talk about the civil rights movement or the effort to free India they make it seem like MLK and Ghandi single-handedly saved the nation with just the mighty strength of their character while others used violence and got nothing done, the meanies.

and like said, any sort of violence is treated as barbaric, unless it's performed by cops. Then whoever gets their heads bashed in deserves it for not playing nice like they're supposed to.

July 27, 2016 - 02:20

Noah Long

If you jfk a politician you have to leave a manifesto.

July 27, 2016 - 02:25

Anthony Price

Spread.

July 27, 2016 - 02:35

Noah Ward

GUYS let's get this HASHTAG trending so we can show the CORRUPT DNC what the YOUTH OF AMERICA WANT

#ConsistentlyChafee

July 27, 2016 - 02:43

Connor Brooks

lmao

July 27, 2016 - 02:51

Lucas Wilson

Why do so many "real leftists" seem to hate B████ more than Clinton and Trump?

July 27, 2016 - 04:04

Julian Flores

Because a lot of them believe that socdem policies are intended specifically to satisfy the people just enough to never go further rather than a jumping off point for reaching proper socialism. With that said, B████'s done a lot of good just from getting people pissed about how they don't have more so that's a start.

July 27, 2016 - 04:16

Kayden King

ie the difference between entryism and socdems

July 27, 2016 - 04:29

Connor Murphy

So what will happen at the DNC today, i hope something catches fire during obamas speech

July 27, 2016 - 04:32

Tyler Johnson

...

July 27, 2016 - 05:09

Jacob Kelly

...

July 27, 2016 - 05:19

Aaron Rivera

Who's ready for the dems to demonise Stein when Hilldog loses in november?

She's gonna get Nader'd

July 27, 2016 - 05:29

William Perez

and Clinton does?

July 27, 2016 - 05:41

Chase Powell

Anything but taking responsibility. I'm ready to combat that narrative ferociously this time.

July 27, 2016 - 05:55

Jace Myers

Heh, remember the time S█████ said this?

You do now.

July 27, 2016 - 05:58

William Nelson

...

July 27, 2016 - 05:58

Jayden Cox

lol on point

the whole "russians did it" is an insult to everyone's intelligence

July 27, 2016 - 06:18

Parker Peterson

Here's the thing: I hope they will be right. I hope Trump becomes imprinted on everyone's memory as what happens when you alienate an entire generation of people from your platform.

July 27, 2016 - 06:19

Kayden Jenkins

Shilltards are eating that shit up. It's red scare levels of hysteria.

July 27, 2016 - 06:21

Nicholas Thompson

...

July 27, 2016 - 06:28

Cooper Martinez

Democrats.

July 27, 2016 - 06:40

Adrian Watson

This pic really resonates with me.

I should have screencaped every nasty, demeaning and condescending article, headline, statement, online post or tweet about S█████ and his supporters that came from a prominent liberal or official Democrat and compile them for our propaganda. It's impossible to support them once you realise how they feel about people to their left.

July 27, 2016 - 06:46

Isaac Thompson

I love how the media totally ignores the fact most of them have said to them they'll vote for Jill Stein and just assume they'll vote for Trump.

July 27, 2016 - 06:54

Lincoln Williams

Election Justice USA gives a finalized report on Election irregularities in the Democratic Primaries showing S█████ should've had enough Delegates to clinch the nomination

drive.google.com/file/d/0B6J1ecILnk3UUy1KZ2FUT29iQ1E/view?pref=2&pli=1

July 27, 2016 - 06:56

Jayden Gomez

No one will vote for fucking Jill Stein mate. Greens are too goofy, even for a protest vote.

July 27, 2016 - 06:59

Grayson Morgan

Memes aside, whats the chance Hillary forced B████ to shill on the threat of him or his family being killed

July 27, 2016 - 07:04

Leo Miller

Well I can't really say the Clintons haven't ever been implicated in murder… Could be true.

July 27, 2016 - 07:07

Julian Cruz

As predicted the New York Times is claiming Assange published the emails in order to "harm Clinton's chances of winning the presidency."

July 27, 2016 - 07:17

Jaxon Ramirez

If you'd like to sugest a candidate other than Magic Vagina or Fortunate Son, I'm all ears.

July 27, 2016 - 07:18

Chase Harris

It ain't me starts playing.

July 27, 2016 - 07:20

Julian Bell

Wikileaks drop literally never

July 27, 2016 - 07:22

Jason White

Any Wikileaks right now helps Trump now that Sandman has sabotaged himself and pissed off his most vocal supporters.

You shouldn't wish for any wikileak.

July 27, 2016 - 07:24

James Butler

Pretty much 0

July 27, 2016 - 07:25

Jeremiah Fisher

sup ctr

July 27, 2016 - 07:26

Isaac Reyes

That'll be a first. Nice hubris too, I'm sure it won't bite your the ass later.

July 27, 2016 - 07:28

Evan Cox

is this .gif literally from the Bush vs Gore era?

July 27, 2016 - 07:30

Cooper Diaz

might even be from the Clinton era, idk I got it from Dramatica iirc.

July 27, 2016 - 07:34

Gavin Lewis

Zero self awareness

July 27, 2016 - 07:37

Xavier Allen

You know what he's right, we're such morons

July 27, 2016 - 07:38

Jeremiah Ramirez

Yeah I'm honestly surprised at all the "Yeah she broke the law and committed voter fraud so what, she still better than Trump" backlash from Democrats.

July 27, 2016 - 07:41

William Foster

...

July 27, 2016 - 08:20

Lincoln Nelson

...

July 27, 2016 - 08:22

Dylan Powell

We're being played by a twelve year old from another universe.

July 27, 2016 - 08:23

Carson Ross

I don't get what the 4-letter words is.

July 27, 2016 - 08:33

Elijah Bell

...

July 27, 2016 - 08:34

Austin Peterson

shit

July 27, 2016 - 08:38

Kayden Watson

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four-letter_word

July 27, 2016 - 08:40

Anthony Williams

piss.

July 27, 2016 - 08:46

Angel Hughes

reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4uurnu/election_justice_usa_finds_that_bernie_sanders/
The following is from the last page of the entire report:

A. CONCLUSIONS

We have aimed to provide an overview of the evidence for various types of fraud and targeted voter suppression impacting the outcomes of the 2016 Democratic presidential primaries. After covering the legal background and the history of Election Justice USA’s legal actions, our best efforts to combat election fraud and voter suppression, we gave a thorough treatment of:

1) Targeted voter suppression

2) Registration tampering

3) Illegal voter purges

4) Exit polling discrepancies

5) Evidence for voting machine tampering

6) The security (or lack thereof) of various voting machine types

Finally, we gave a date-by-date, state-by-state overview of each of these fraud or suppression types at work throughout the course of the 2016 Democratic presidential primaries. Based on this work, Election Justice USA has established an upper estimate of 184 pledged delegates lost by Senator B████ ██████ as a consequence of specific irregularities and instances of fraud. Adding these delegates to Senator S█████’ pledged delegate total and subtracting the same number from Hillary Clinton’s total would more than erase the 359 pledged delegate gap between the two candidates. EJUSA established the upper estimate through exit polling data, statistical analysis by precinct size, and attention to the details of Democratic proportional awarding of national delegates. Even small changes in vote shares in critical states like Massachusetts and New York could have substantially changed the media narrative surrounding the primaries in ways that would likely have had far reaching consequences for Senator S█████’ campaign.

B. RECOMMENDATIONS

We conclude by calling for decertification of the 2016 Democratic primary results in every state in which we have established a reasonable doubt as to the accuracy of the vote tally. Finally, we wish to bring the reader’s attention to three simple reforms that would eliminate the mere possibility of the vast majority of fraud types demonstrated or evidenced in this report:

1) Exclusive use of hand-counted paper ballots in all future US elections.

2) Automatic voter registration, with same-day party affiliation switching as a mandatory condition for all elections that are publicly funded.

3) Restoration of voting rights legislation which would ensure adequate access to polling sites.

Election Justice USA maintains that these recommendations for future elections, contrary to common claims, save taxpayer money. While beyond the scope of the present report, we aim to present a convincing case for this as part of subsequent publications.

July 27, 2016 - 08:46

Wyatt Clark

cuck

July 27, 2016 - 08:46

David Jackson

I'd love to know how many are paid and how many are useful idiots.

July 27, 2016 - 09:21

Noah Collins

Yeah, I remember when this happened. Really pisses me off they took one of the things I really loved. Now the "satire" is absolute shit. We can still watch the gold Onion videos etc archived on the net but that's a small consolation.

July 27, 2016 - 09:24

Tyler Jenkins

Holy shit, we're truly in a revolutionary period. All we need now is to storm a prison or military base. t.larper

July 27, 2016 - 09:32

Joseph Green

Why did B████ endorse Clinton only to leave the party anyways?
archive.is/Iy8Kn

July 27, 2016 - 09:38

Adam Ramirez

They really had him by the balls, didn't they?

July 27, 2016 - 09:43

Jacob Sanders

SPREAD THIS
mysides. gg Cali bro.

July 27, 2016 - 09:48

Jaxon White

great another moral crusader worrisomely fascinated with children

July 27, 2016 - 09:51

Oliver Watson

He said from the beginning he'd endorse whoever the nominee would be. He's keeping his word. It's hard for everyone to swollow (and I can only imagine so for Bman) especially after DNC shenanigans confirmed.

July 27, 2016 - 09:52

Caleb Baker

Okay, now I kinda want Trump to win just a tiny bit more.

July 27, 2016 - 11:35

Chase Morris

Trump just asked Russia to find the missing Clinton e-mails
Putin conspiracies abound y'all
archive.is/OS02p
archive.is/9xSYB
archive.is/Bgxpl
archive.is/zlsEG

July 27, 2016 - 11:42

Samuel White

Friendly reminder:

bloomberg.com/features/2016-how-to-hack-an-election/

July 27, 2016 - 12:05

Jason Hall

...

July 27, 2016 - 12:09

Lucas Jenkins

...

July 27, 2016 - 12:36

Anthony Miller

...

July 27, 2016 - 12:43

Hunter Johnson

Brilliant.

July 27, 2016 - 12:44

Christian Wright

...

July 27, 2016 - 12:45

Lucas Edwards

Wait, is this The Wall?

Where is Roger Waters?

you could add "Waiting for the Worms" there tbh

July 27, 2016 - 12:49

Lucas Allen

lmao

July 27, 2016 - 12:58

Grayson Torres

Robert Reich debating Chris Hedges over the future of S█████ stuff:

youtube.com/watch?v=jr4cXH3Fil8

Pretty surprised to hear Reich arguing for Clinton. Bill shat all over him last time he was appointed as part of his cabinet and never took his advice. How does this dope think Hillary will be any different?

July 27, 2016 - 12:59

Easton Allen

...

July 27, 2016 - 13:04

William Brown

So I saw these comments on that video.. False flags or just crazies?

July 27, 2016 - 13:09

Chase Bennett

thats sexist

July 27, 2016 - 13:11

Ethan Turner

...

July 27, 2016 - 13:16

Alexander Ross

#DNCLeaks is now blocked from Twitter's "top trending" hashtags.

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/756661339502813185

July 27, 2016 - 13:17

Grayson Edwards

holy fuck this caller on cspan is aids

July 27, 2016 - 13:19

Josiah Lee

...

July 27, 2016 - 13:20

Jordan Thomas

...

July 27, 2016 - 13:21

Hudson Parker

The convention just went live

July 27, 2016 - 13:26

Elijah Thomas

The singer has great facial aesthetics. It's too bad he's not very good at it and is perfectly content to celebrate the U.S..

July 27, 2016 - 13:29

Eli Carter

You know, I think the whole DNC walkout thing was actually plotted by the DNC.

July 27, 2016 - 13:32

Jaxson Howard

It was blocked right after they dropped. Facebook also blocked being able to link to wikileaks, but I think that's "fixed" now, and FB "apologized" for it.

July 27, 2016 - 13:33

Christopher Lee

I want S█████ to get out of this alive.

He's done a lot of great work. I don't him to lose it all because of Hillary's conspiracy.

July 27, 2016 - 13:34

Joshua Powell

Don't you ever talk to me or my son again.

July 27, 2016 - 13:36

Parker Carter

I still want justice for Larry

July 27, 2016 - 13:37

Bentley Powell

Is this chick talking rn on Xanaxs or what? lmao

July 27, 2016 - 13:38

Jonathan Fisher

God. This woman is almost as robotic as Hillary

July 27, 2016 - 13:39

Sebastian Myers

youtube.com/watch?v=4fw7XiCJL4M
livestream

July 27, 2016 - 13:39

Elijah Mitchell

She's on something. Take it from someone who's always on something.

July 27, 2016 - 13:39

Luke Phillips

...

July 27, 2016 - 13:40

Thomas Reed

Can we trust stream links by the DNC themselves?

They cut audio when there were boos before. Find a fox or pbs stream

July 27, 2016 - 13:40

Aaron Barnes

LOL

Did anyone else see the camera cut to the plant getting angry at people for not cheering?

July 27, 2016 - 13:42

Nicholas Sanchez

Seriously, that's a moment I won't forget.

Heartbreaking & makes me very angry.

July 27, 2016 - 13:42

Grayson Martin

Are people out protesting today? Any streams?

July 27, 2016 - 13:42

Alexander Miller

Oh is it? LMAO, I didn't notice. Disregard shit link. I'll find another.

July 27, 2016 - 13:43

Andrew Scott

see

July 27, 2016 - 13:44

Noah Flores

New livestream, still youtube but from a conservative source. I heard booing yesterday, but some parts it was cut out as well, I think. Not sure though.
youtube.com/watch?v=QsSS9ML9PCk

July 27, 2016 - 13:45

Christian Reed

God, it's already unbearable.

July 27, 2016 - 13:46

Robert Cruz

...

July 27, 2016 - 13:51

Blake Howard

...

July 27, 2016 - 13:52

Evan White

Why do they blame Putin for everything?

Jesus Christ

July 27, 2016 - 13:54

Julian Powell

Putin is like "da jooz", in some sense.

July 27, 2016 - 13:55

Jaxson Allen

There are still enough boomers left with a reflexive distrust/fear of Russia that it's still useful. Gotta push that narrative dawg

July 27, 2016 - 13:55

Noah Watson

BUT IT'S HILLARY'S TURN

Because they want to go to war against Russa.

July 27, 2016 - 13:56

Blake Brown

You could have prevented this

July 27, 2016 - 13:56

Austin Rodriguez

This also

July 27, 2016 - 13:58

Juan Cook

...

July 27, 2016 - 13:58

Michael Davis

Gee it's almost like Russia sucks dick and is trying to sway the election to get a profitable stooge elected.

July 27, 2016 - 13:59

Samuel Morris

How exactly?

July 27, 2016 - 13:59

Elijah Nelson

A couple high powered sniper rifles and your average DOOM playing white male

July 27, 2016 - 14:01

Levi Ross

periscope.tv/w/1MYxNzORMMvxw
DNC is just for show. The real action is out in the streets.

July 27, 2016 - 14:01

Angel Williams

...

July 27, 2016 - 14:01

Nathaniel Flores

Sanders v. Trump would've been an event for the ages, but Trump v. Hillary should be pretty funny.

All the proceeds go downballot, not one penny to Shillary. R-r-right, guys?

July 27, 2016 - 14:02

James Cox

I don't think so. Hillary has been planning this since '08, making tons of backroom deals and planting her agents in places of power.

I'm certain that Monday was the first time millions of people heard B████ speak thanks to her loyal media shutting him out.

Yes. B████ said that he doesn't plan to do any fundraising for Shillary.

July 27, 2016 - 14:03

Chase Garcia

I think you underestimate Clinton's precautions and overestimate how often she goes out in public where its announced ahead of time. See the giant wall constructed outside of the convention that's a whole 2 miles away.

July 27, 2016 - 14:04

Eli Nelson

Debbie Wasserman Schultz (DWS) was the co-chair of Hillary's 2008 presidential run. Hillary was able to get DWS in charge of the DNC for the 2016 election in order to manipulate it from within. To do this, she would first have to get the DNC chair to step down and recommend DWS for the position.The Clintons would have to promise something to that person, something more prestigious than being head of the Democratic party. So who was that person and what did they get in return?

The previous chair of the DNC prior to DWS was Tim Kaine

July 27, 2016 - 14:05

Lucas Wright

...

July 27, 2016 - 14:06

Joseph Torres

Hard to tell its a joke when she really should be killed.

July 27, 2016 - 14:08

Zachary Hill

THREADLY REMINDER THAT DEBBIE WASSERMAN-SCHULTZ SUPPORTED SOPA-PIPA

July 27, 2016 - 14:14

Bentley Fisher

Like I told you earlier
Don't you ever talk to me or my son AGAIN

July 27, 2016 - 14:16

Caleb Wright

Saying aloha is only cool when does it. Not you.

July 27, 2016 - 14:21

Benjamin Hernandez

s//tulsi

July 27, 2016 - 14:22

Jackson Parker

CUT IT OUT

July 27, 2016 - 14:38

Oliver Foster

Is that Tim Kain on the harmonica?

July 27, 2016 - 14:42

Gavin Edwards

periscope.tv/w/1YpJkoAbnnMJj
People protesting.

July 27, 2016 - 14:42

Jayden James

Just now there was a guy with a red flag and a guillotine poster.
Kek.

July 27, 2016 - 14:44

Nathan Diaz

...

July 27, 2016 - 14:45

Brandon Edwards

...

July 27, 2016 - 14:45

Nathan Phillips

Well done

July 27, 2016 - 14:48

Brandon Bell

Holy fucking shit. This is so boring. Them kicking out all the S█████ supporters was a mistake

July 27, 2016 - 14:49

Isaiah Long

Good god, the memes from a B████ Bros equivalent of L&O SVU's Intimidation Game episode…

July 27, 2016 - 15:02

Robert Gray

...

July 27, 2016 - 15:06

Jonathan Carter

youtube.com/watch?v=ipt4RGQbmZg

July 27, 2016 - 15:06

Jordan Harris

...

July 27, 2016 - 15:06

Joshua Hill

What in the ever loving fuck is this

July 27, 2016 - 15:07

Jason Walker

Was the singing this shit in rehearsal? Why did no one stop them lmao

July 27, 2016 - 15:10

Luke Bailey

Thanks user

July 27, 2016 - 15:14

Lincoln Moore

Is it hope time yet guys?

July 27, 2016 - 15:20

Samuel Brooks

...

July 27, 2016 - 15:23

Chase Price

...

July 27, 2016 - 15:27

Nathan Edwards

What exactly what happened to cause this #ImWithNina thing? From what I'm getting they snubbed a B████ delegate but I'm having trouble finding specifics.

July 27, 2016 - 15:29

Jonathan Murphy

We can't just win with this.

July 27, 2016 - 15:33

Eli Lewis

She wasn't just a delegate, she was a Senator.

They basically removed her speaking slot because she wouldn't endorse Hillary

July 27, 2016 - 15:37

Tyler Jackson

...

July 27, 2016 - 15:39

Mason Smith

Why do all these people in streams want to see Hillary repeat the talking points of S█████? Haven't they realized that Clinton's word is worthless yet?

July 27, 2016 - 15:41

Robert Ramirez

Flint doesn't even have clean water yet jesus christ

July 27, 2016 - 15:43

Samuel Gray

The Democrats didn't want Nina to pull a Tulsi (She nominated S█████ on the floor), so they removed her speaking slot.
youtube.com/watch?v=WhlvhHzpBj0

Because of what Tulsi did, now the Clinton camp is firing back with their typical smear articles - thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/07/25/the-bernie-endorsing-congresswoman-who-trump-fans-can-love.html

July 27, 2016 - 15:44

Jayden Ward

csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2016/0726/Bernie-s-rebellion-is-going-rogue
No matter how badly B████ sold out, you can take solace in the fact that the democrats have zero control over his supporters

July 27, 2016 - 15:46

Brody Sanders

Thanks

July 27, 2016 - 15:47

Jonathan Ward

Trump is doing an AMA on leddit/the_donald right now.

July 27, 2016 - 15:56

Grayson Ramirez

CLINTON 3:16 SAYS I JUST KICKED THAT GLASS CEILING'S ASS

July 27, 2016 - 15:57

Charles Fisher

Well, looks like she's going to suffer a tragic accident soon enough.

July 27, 2016 - 15:57

Juan Perry

#ImWithNina

Fuck Hillary and fuck the DNC !

July 27, 2016 - 15:58

Elijah Collins

So, what's the revolutionary potential of the B████ fans as of now? they're really pissed off, but they are also pacifists.

July 27, 2016 - 15:59

Kayden James

Cancer diagnosed with more Cancer

July 27, 2016 - 15:59

Brody Walker

Holy shit.

July 27, 2016 - 16:02

Owen Jenkins

nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-drop-reddit-where-he-s-already-phenomenon-n617356

July 27, 2016 - 16:05

Anthony Gutierrez

...

July 27, 2016 - 16:07

Andrew Clark

Surprise, God Emperor Trump can't take criticism.

July 27, 2016 - 16:09

Jose Hall

If you're talking violent revolution I'd say zero.

July 27, 2016 - 16:09

Kevin Morgan

and yet they complain when they get silenced and ostracized

July 27, 2016 - 16:09

Elijah Harris

Guess Nina's not bought out yet.

July 27, 2016 - 16:10

Nicholas Parker

Shit they cut the feed on Nina

July 27, 2016 - 16:11

Isaac Cooper

That is a wonderful gif

July 27, 2016 - 16:13

Gavin Smith

I was going to ask him about Climate change.

Though his supporters want a safe space echo chamber.

July 27, 2016 - 16:17

Lucas Morris

Never too late comrade.

;_;

July 27, 2016 - 16:17

Joshua Sullivan

Whoops. Picture several months late.

July 27, 2016 - 16:18

Mason Kelly

I think the "it's OK when we do it" ought to be added to Rules for Radicals 2.0.

July 27, 2016 - 16:18

Leo Stewart

In fairness to them without some way to find the most popular questions it would be a complete mess with tens of thousands asking questions at the same time.

July 27, 2016 - 16:20

Hudson Morgan

I asked him about climate change. Can't wait for the response.

July 27, 2016 - 16:23

Henry Turner

I'd say that at least 60% of that is Holla Forums wanting senpai to notice them lmao

July 27, 2016 - 16:24

Connor Foster

For a site Holla Forums hates, they do seem to have a lot of people on reddit

July 27, 2016 - 16:26

Alexander Nguyen

Isn't like half of Holla Forums threads about Twitter and Reddit comments

July 27, 2016 - 16:26

Zachary Harris

Holy shit, its fucking O'malley

July 27, 2016 - 16:26

Elijah Torres

reddit.com/r/FULLCOMMUNISM/comments/4ut0pe/which_will_you_choose/

So true…

July 27, 2016 - 16:28

Ethan Rogers

Or they could just use the point system like they reddit always does

July 27, 2016 - 16:28

Adam Phillips

Why don't they show the audience anymore? :^)

July 27, 2016 - 16:29

Ryder Watson

reddit.com/r/FULLCOMMUNISM/comments/4uxh1m/donald_trump_is_doing_an_ama_i_got_a_question/

I like this one

July 27, 2016 - 16:29

Jacob Sanders

foxbusiness.com/politics/2016/07/26/fmr-gov-omalley-outraged-americans-shrugging-off-dnc-hack.html
O'Malley is a piece of shit

July 27, 2016 - 16:32

Thomas Howard

he responses are so weak
reddit.com/user/the-realDonaldTrump

July 27, 2016 - 16:32

Samuel Wright

Oh shit, moot is talking at the DNC 2016 convention right now.

Also, Martin O'Malley's sellout speech was pretty good, tbh.

July 27, 2016 - 16:32

Eli Kelly

HE'S MOVING TO THE LEFT.
WHAT THE FUCK

July 27, 2016 - 16:33

Bentley Sullivan

Clinton is a fucking disaster. right now He pretty much has the presidency in the pocket if he does a little appeasement and drops a bit of the madman antics.

July 27, 2016 - 16:35

Brandon Davis

Wow, the fear mongering at the convention right now

July 27, 2016 - 16:35

Brayden Diaz

lmao

July 27, 2016 - 16:36

Isaiah Wood

Not really

Making minor concessions in the face of greater demands is a common tactic. When you have people out in the streets demanding $15 an hour, 10 isn't as hard a sell. Fuck, even WalMart's minimum is $10 an hour now.

July 27, 2016 - 16:37

Adrian Scott

Easy to predict, he's made his intention to appeal to S█████ voters clear for months now. He's already further left than the GOP anyways, he was criticized heavily in primary debates for saying "I'm not going to let people die in the streets" and advocating medicaid expansion. If you put a gun to my head and made me choose between the two I'd go with Trump but since I have other choices I'm going Stein.

July 27, 2016 - 16:38

Joseph Perry

BLM rushes the stage when

July 27, 2016 - 16:38

Kayden Martin

That's pathetic. He's the original porkie. The only good thing he has done recently is publicly ask Russia to get those emails. His policy is trash

July 27, 2016 - 16:38

Jayden Davis

Welcome to America.

July 27, 2016 - 16:40

Justin Fisher

youtube.com/watch?v=ipt4RGQbmZg

Cornell West speaking outside convention

July 27, 2016 - 16:42

Samuel Evans

I love that man.

July 27, 2016 - 16:45

Daniel Brown

That was on the first day. Him and Hedges were pretty great.

July 27, 2016 - 16:45

Ian Long

[idpol intensifies]

July 27, 2016 - 16:49

Angel Long

can someone explain what happened with turner

July 27, 2016 - 16:50

Ryan Morales

Payback. Like Vince Foster without the "suicide".

July 27, 2016 - 16:51

Asher Phillips

Hillary has to pay people to support her now.
Reminds of when Trump first started out and he paid to put people in the stands too.

July 27, 2016 - 16:52

Jacob Bell

see

July 27, 2016 - 16:53

Logan Turner

I'll just leave this here again.

July 27, 2016 - 16:53

Colton Taylor

Might be Sander supporters taking a leaf out of the DNC playbook.

July 27, 2016 - 16:53

Leo Brown

I was wondering why I didn't see Nina at the convention, either. She seemed like the natural choice.

July 27, 2016 - 16:53

Jeremiah Hernandez

AMERICAN HEALTHCARE IS A MESS

AMERICAN HEALTHCARE IS A MISTAKE

AMERICAN HEALTHCARE IS A BIG FAT MESS

July 27, 2016 - 16:54

Juan Bennett

Somehow I don't think that is the case. The natural assumption would be the DNC, again.

July 27, 2016 - 16:54

Tyler Harris

Fucking kill me…

July 27, 2016 - 16:54

Austin Edwards

he wants bernouts to vote for him, as well as disenfranchised democrats

hilary wants the neocon vote

July 27, 2016 - 16:55

Easton Brooks

christ. His comb over is even worse back then

July 27, 2016 - 16:56

Samuel Peterson

Yeah. It's the "general election pivot", where the conservatives move left & the liberals move right to try to gain supporters from the other side.

July 27, 2016 - 16:58

Christian Rivera

I love you, benis poster

did you make? or just found it?

July 27, 2016 - 16:59

Noah Mitchell

reddit.com/r/politics/comments/4uvmi4/sarah_silverman_hacked_by_anonymous_after_backing/
haha

fox25boston.com/news/politics/sarah-silverman-hacked-by-anonymous-after-backing-hillary-clinton/412623800

July 27, 2016 - 17:03

Connor Johnson

Good, fuck her and her, "Let them eat cake." shit.

July 27, 2016 - 17:04

Angel Sanders

...

July 27, 2016 - 17:05

Daniel Bell

==AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA== twitter.com/wikileaks/status/758451661903949824

July 27, 2016 - 17:11

Nicholas Gomez

B-but this isn't a new release.

July 27, 2016 - 17:18

Brody Kelly

These are the same voicemails they released with the emails.

July 27, 2016 - 17:20

James Phillips

He didn't call it a new release, only implied it. Probably trying to get people to look through them.

July 27, 2016 - 17:22

Michael Cooper

Oh yeah, it's all still bombshell evidence that deserves a spotlight. I just got excited for more. Hopefully they'll release something new very soon.

July 27, 2016 - 17:25

Brandon Price

youtube.com/watch?v=Zd8WbHVaOzo
Larry Interviewed by Turkish Coup leader and notorious Armenian Genocide Denier Cenk Ogre

July 27, 2016 - 17:29

Nathan Reed

I walked into the room where my dad is watching, saw them singing, and walked out.

Are they still singing?

July 27, 2016 - 17:30

Josiah Sanchez

Holla Forums found this.
wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/fileid/16014/7555

July 27, 2016 - 17:31

Isaac James

...

July 27, 2016 - 17:33

Austin Gomez

does anyone have a stream for the protests?

July 27, 2016 - 17:37

Jeremiah Jackson

Holla Forums didn't find anything.
This was already on here.

July 27, 2016 - 17:38

Jose Nelson

Literally the worst person in the world.

July 27, 2016 - 17:38

Isaiah Butler

Why does would you censor out the text in the tweet if you're just going to show to word in the image?

July 27, 2016 - 17:39

Mason Flores

I guess I was going to type "why does he" then I switched sentences mid-thought.

July 27, 2016 - 17:40

Jaxon Carter

I do that shit all the time lmao

July 27, 2016 - 17:41

Luke Gomez

I found it

youtube.com/watch?v=gGyMXpxT45A

July 27, 2016 - 17:42

Jayden Bennett

No I couldn't have.

July 27, 2016 - 17:43

Xavier Roberts

She'll whip and nae nae on Ellen, but fuck getting close to a black rapper.

July 27, 2016 - 17:44

Jose Morris

Anyone else at the Black Men for B████ rally today?

July 27, 2016 - 17:45

Logan Cook

Fuck it's not letting me post pics from my phone

July 27, 2016 - 17:46

Angel Gutierrez

should've gone to $12 to pressure Shillary

July 27, 2016 - 17:47

Alexander Cox

MUH HISTORY BEING MADE
FIRST WOMAN TO REPRESENT BOURGEOIS DEMOCRAT INTERESTS
INSPIRATIONAL

July 27, 2016 - 17:47

Landon Flores

literally who are these people

July 27, 2016 - 17:49

Wyatt Wood

The fuck is going on?
NO MORE WAR
is this an anti-hillary chant or are her supporters just that retarded

July 27, 2016 - 17:54

Nolan Peterson

Have you seen the Clinton advertisements on TV?

"Trump says bad words!!!! MUH CHILDREN ARE WATCHING"

July 27, 2016 - 17:55

Christian Lewis

youtube.com/watch?v=uJVNVoNMGwo
Vermin Supreme at the DNC protests

July 27, 2016 - 17:59

Colton Gomez

Morgan Freeman is narrating a lot of his ads. That's going to draw a lot of people in.

July 27, 2016 - 18:00

Carson Taylor

I think they're just hoping the rest of us are retarded enough to buy their bullshit when they push it on news networks with clips of this.

July 27, 2016 - 18:00

Dominic Torres

This is payback for Nina.

We are just getting started. Stay tuned. Hillary will pay!

July 27, 2016 - 18:01

James Collins

not gonna lie, it's hard to compete with the voice of god

July 27, 2016 - 18:02

Joseph Baker

*her ads

July 27, 2016 - 18:03

Carter Rogers

I can't help it comrades, joe is a pretty cool dude even if he is porky.

July 27, 2016 - 18:05

Oliver Myers

I think it was protesting delegates against Panetta/Clinton tbh, considering that other delegates started U-S-A to drown them out

I like how somehow calling Trump fascist while using patriotic chants to overpower dissenters are somehow reconcilable positions for these people

July 27, 2016 - 18:05

Parker Hernandez

I hope there's enough B████ bros left to heckle Clinton for when she finally speaks

July 27, 2016 - 18:10

Grayson Cook

In their vision, they are true patriots while Trump is merely a nationalist. Cognitive dissonance, in other words.

July 27, 2016 - 18:10

Sebastian Hall

I gotta admit, Biden's speech is actually decent.

July 27, 2016 - 18:14

David Harris

never mind, not even Biden can convince someone that Hillary is passionate about something

July 27, 2016 - 18:18

Lincoln Anderson

Whats everyone chanting?

July 27, 2016 - 18:22

Eli Gonzalez

His general personality is ok, like Bill Clinton's, but they're still porky shits. Also, see this

July 27, 2016 - 18:22

Jonathan Wilson

"Not a clue" referring to Donald Trump

July 27, 2016 - 18:23

Jack Robinson

...

July 27, 2016 - 18:25

Justin Allen

Holy fuck Biden sounds like a republican now

July 27, 2016 - 18:27

John Thomas

dems: USA! USA! USA!
Berns: NO MORE WAR! NO MORE WAR!

July 27, 2016 - 18:28

Isaac Baker

This.

July 27, 2016 - 18:28

Nicholas Walker

Arrests happening.
youtube.com/watch?v=pXbuP19AWDM

July 27, 2016 - 18:29

Anthony Taylor

inb4 news media never mentions any of this.

July 27, 2016 - 18:34

Caleb Diaz

literally the worst Porky in America

July 27, 2016 - 18:35

Thomas Adams

...

July 27, 2016 - 18:35

Sebastian Jenkins

midget major get booed for saying private sector is good

July 27, 2016 - 18:36

Luke Jackson

A LEADER WHO UNDERSTANDS BUSINESS

July 27, 2016 - 18:37

Jayden Morris

HE WANTS BUSINESS LEADERS TO RUN FOR OFFICE
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS LETTING A BILLIONAIRE WHO WANTS BILLIONAIRES TO CONTROL THE GOVERNMENT SPEAK AT THEIR CONVENTION
AND THEY WERE ATTACKING TRUMP FOR BEING ELITIST EARLIER
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

July 27, 2016 - 18:40

Jeremiah Thomas

That subtle endorsement for the TPP

July 27, 2016 - 18:41

Aaron Cook

*cough*

July 27, 2016 - 18:41

Logan Morgan

I D E O L O G Y
D
E
O
L
O
G
Y

July 27, 2016 - 18:42

Isaiah Taylor

I've never seen a party misread its base so much

July 27, 2016 - 18:43

Christopher Williams

So the American aristocrats really eat up they are exceptional…

July 27, 2016 - 18:44

Ian Flores

...

July 27, 2016 - 18:44

Justin King

this is going to backfire so hard

July 27, 2016 - 18:45

Ayden Martinez

LARRY!

July 27, 2016 - 18:45

Parker Myers

Wow, swearing. So funny.

July 27, 2016 - 18:47

Anthony Lopez

NEW LEAKS SHOW MAJOR HILLARY DONOR CALLING DNC TO "STOP B████ ██████"

Source: wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/?file=mp3&count=50#searchresult

#16014

July 27, 2016 - 18:48

Isaiah Morris

false alarm, it's nvm. It's a delegate or someone else it sounds like. Either way

July 27, 2016 - 18:53

Aaron Scott

suuureee

July 27, 2016 - 18:53

Joshua Morris

I was really on the fence about voting for an imperialist warmonger who murdered Berta Caceres, but then Lenny Kravitz played at the DNC and now #IMWITHHER

July 27, 2016 - 18:53

Jayden Howard

$300 is "major"?

July 27, 2016 - 18:54

Isaiah Allen

I havent been watching, was bloomberg actually on?

July 27, 2016 - 18:57

Easton Davis

Same fucking song from last night

July 27, 2016 - 18:57

Aiden Jackson

yes, and he shilled for Free Trade and billionaires the entire time

July 27, 2016 - 18:58

Brandon Jenkins

Why

July 27, 2016 - 18:58

Juan Young

Yep and Kaine's up soon. This convention is basically a slap in the face to all B████ voters with the assumption that we'll get in line anyways.

July 27, 2016 - 18:59

Oliver Wilson

This Tim Kaine intro is like one of those oscar bait biopics but even less sincere

July 27, 2016 - 19:03

John Sanders

Democrats are delusional. Come november they will all regret saying "They're all going to vote for hillary anyways"

July 27, 2016 - 19:03

Isaac Long

what are they chanting and who paid them to pretend to care about this piece of white bread

July 27, 2016 - 19:10

Levi Brown

"C-Can I?"

Christ, just fucking kill me

July 27, 2016 - 19:10

Jayden Rogers

This is all a game for them, though. They know that Trump won't actually destroy the world, so Hillary losing because people don't vote for her just gives them an excuse to blame leftists for a decade and make the general populace disagree with us.

July 27, 2016 - 19:10

Elijah Hall

After 8 years of trump, democrats will say "trump ruined america"

just like how today, republicans say "obama ruined america"

just like how 8 years ago, democrats said "bush ruined america"

just like how 16 years ago, republicans said "clinton ruined america"

July 27, 2016 - 19:13

Nicholas Hill

ayy, someone just posted this on Twitter and @Honest_Hillary retweeted it:

twitter.com/Nokkenbuer/status/758482026211049472

the guy said he converted it to mp4 from webm so he may be lurking

too bad the conversion messed up the end a bit tho

July 27, 2016 - 19:14

Joseph Roberts

...

July 27, 2016 - 19:14

Adam Gray

daily reminder that Honest Abe was a proto marxist

July 27, 2016 - 19:15

Asher Wilson

Lincoln apparently read Marx's works, too.

July 27, 2016 - 19:16

Ryder Morales

...

July 27, 2016 - 19:22

Sebastian Sanchez

this is way funnier than any of the comedians they brought on stage so far

July 27, 2016 - 19:23

Gabriel Bennett

I would never let my hypothetical children within 50 feet of Hillary Clinton thank you very much

July 27, 2016 - 19:24

Daniel Hall

protests outside
periscope.tv/w/1lDxLQmQMpaKm

July 27, 2016 - 19:25

David Allen

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/fileid/16866/7797

UH OH

SOMEONE IS IN TROUBLE

July 27, 2016 - 19:27

Gabriel Collins

Is that her phone number?

July 27, 2016 - 19:30

Sebastian Hughes

wha?

July 27, 2016 - 19:32

Nolan Torres

...

July 27, 2016 - 19:34

Wyatt Parker

I'm out of the loop and can't find hardly anything about Susan Hartman online. Who is she, exactly? What has she done? In what way is she connected to the rest of the DNC leaks?

July 27, 2016 - 19:39

Andrew Lewis

You see him purse his lips after saying so? That's telling.. Can't even say it with a straight face.

July 27, 2016 - 19:39

Anthony Perry

My bad,
meant for

July 27, 2016 - 19:40

Hunter Brooks

Obummers after this

July 27, 2016 - 19:40

Evan Edwards

Tim Kaine's speech was full of lies about Hillary. Not surprising.

July 27, 2016 - 19:41

Chase Green

...

July 27, 2016 - 19:44

Juan Barnes

Maybe if we had a fiscally social leader with conservative values who taxed the actual one percent and not the high middle class (bougauiose so called) and taxed the highest people on Wall Street and was able to develop said money into infrastructure, jobs and urban renewell/education programs and shit that helps everyone and feeds back into the economy, can provide reasonable gun control laws and make legislature moving instead of free college and other bullshit I would vote for socialist ideas, but for now I'm staying moderate
Not that I could choose B████ now

July 27, 2016 - 19:49

Ayden Cox

Walls don't work after all. Protestors broke down the wall.
periscope.tv/PlayDangerously/1vOxwpeRmnrKB

July 27, 2016 - 19:50

Bentley Rivera

what a guy

July 27, 2016 - 19:51

Wyatt Martin

...

July 27, 2016 - 19:51

Aiden Roberts

are they chanting not with us?
Cuz if they are that's pretty based

July 27, 2016 - 19:52

Jayden Walker

...

July 27, 2016 - 19:52

Bentley Carter

I think its "Lock me up"

July 27, 2016 - 19:52

Nathan Kelly

But those are American kids, that makes them more valuable

July 27, 2016 - 19:53

Aaron Young

...

July 27, 2016 - 19:55

Landon Cruz

Someone on Holla Forums saying this happened during Kaine's speech, not sure if accurate or who they got it from.

July 27, 2016 - 19:55

Xavier Baker

at least hes sort of charismatic

July 27, 2016 - 19:55

Chase Long

IT BEGINS

July 27, 2016 - 19:56

Eli Thomas

I don't see the wall being down though.. Watching right now

July 27, 2016 - 19:57

Jackson Johnson

"Not me, us" I thought

July 27, 2016 - 19:58

Wyatt Price

Oh great. Obummer is a Hillary shill too

July 27, 2016 - 19:58

Anthony Stewart

SOMEONES ON FIRE HAHAHA

July 27, 2016 - 19:58

Wyatt Parker

...

July 27, 2016 - 19:58

Jaxon Jones

Did Obama say 12 years? What? Did I miss an entire term of Obama's presidency?

July 27, 2016 - 19:58

Austin Kelly

fuckin anarkiddies

July 27, 2016 - 19:59

Kayden Nelson

Bunch of people in the crowd were saying it was down, but it wasn't when he got to it. Guess they were trying but failed.

July 27, 2016 - 20:00

Thomas Howard

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4ruae/police_firing_on_protesters_5_killed/

July 27, 2016 - 20:01

Lincoln Lewis

...

July 27, 2016 - 20:02

Easton Jackson

UNITY

July 27, 2016 - 20:02

Hunter Ross

Was that nigga meditating

July 27, 2016 - 20:03

Evan Wood

Mik Cernovich is shit and I won't argue that. If you have a different stream of the protest I'd appreciate it.

July 27, 2016 - 20:03

Isaiah Cook

Come on fam don't play me like that.

July 27, 2016 - 20:03

Liam Hill

Obama first spoke to the convention in 2004 and it made him a rising star in the Party.

July 27, 2016 - 20:04

Adrian Martinez

OH SHIT

WIKILEAKS

July 27, 2016 - 20:04

Asher Sanders

BURN THAT MOTHERFUCKING FLAG

July 27, 2016 - 20:05

Thomas Stewart

LET THE MOTHERFUCKER BURN

FUCKING KEK

July 27, 2016 - 20:05

Caleb Flores

SMASH THE STATE

July 27, 2016 - 20:05

Jordan Hughes

BURN IT ALL

CLASS WAR NOW

July 27, 2016 - 20:08

Xavier Hernandez

Love me, Love me, I'm a liberal.

July 27, 2016 - 20:08

Asher Jones

These anarchists are calling shit out. I like it.

1, 2, 3, 4

LET'S DECLARE A CLASS WAR

5, 6, 7, 8

EAT THE RICH AND SMASH THE STATE

July 27, 2016 - 20:09

Evan Thomas

it's like poetry, every line rhymes

July 27, 2016 - 20:10

Samuel Thompson

Riots when

July 27, 2016 - 20:10

Nicholas Cox

Liberals getting BTFO

The symbology is delicious

July 27, 2016 - 20:11

Thomas Gutierrez

The fucking comments….
All these fucking class-cucks.

July 27, 2016 - 20:11

Evan Murphy

Is it a good thing, or a bad thing, that a candidate with FDR's platform and charisma would steamroll the competition in an election today?

July 27, 2016 - 20:11

Nolan Moore

What do you expect from a predominantly alt-right audience?

July 27, 2016 - 20:11

Camden Brooks

This reporter panders to alt-right. I'm just on the main twitter feed so I don't need to read that shit.

July 27, 2016 - 20:12

Colton Taylor

This mike guy needs to shut up

July 27, 2016 - 20:12

Grayson Cooper

...

July 27, 2016 - 20:12

Josiah Walker

...

July 27, 2016 - 20:13

Carson Wood

Am i the only one watching obama

July 27, 2016 - 20:14

Nolan Butler

I'm watching both, makes for a great contrast between the image they're projecting and what's really going on.

July 27, 2016 - 20:15

Blake Young

Im not watching the convention until Hillary's coronation speech so I can hear the boos

July 27, 2016 - 20:16

Andrew Davis

same here.

July 27, 2016 - 20:17

Zachary Reed

Same here. Switching back & forth.

July 27, 2016 - 20:17

Samuel Sullivan

I was, but then I went on the Periscope a bit to see what was happening there. Pleased to see the anarchists representing in the B████ rally/protest, but I'd be more pleased if they had a livestream up rather than this alt-right classcuck.

It won't happen. All the Berners vacated the building and new HRC shills were bussed in.

There were barely even any boos for Bloomberg.

July 27, 2016 - 20:18

Liam Barnes

You missed someone yell "TPP" while he was making a speech

RIP whoever said that

July 27, 2016 - 20:19

Anthony Young

The periscope guy is on Molyneux lol

July 27, 2016 - 20:19

Luis Parker

JESUS

July 27, 2016 - 20:19

Aaron Baker

I've never even heard of this guy before.
jeeysus

July 27, 2016 - 20:20

Elijah Morgan

who is this man and why is he such a cuck

July 27, 2016 - 20:22

Bentley Reyes

this is why gulags were invented

July 27, 2016 - 20:22

Austin Torres

Straight to the gulag

July 27, 2016 - 20:22

Isaiah Green

THIS WHAT A POLICE STATE LOOKS LIKE

July 27, 2016 - 20:22

Aiden Evans

Ok, anyone got a better Periscope feed?

July 27, 2016 - 20:23

Charles Hernandez

What are they chanting now?
Something capitalista?

July 27, 2016 - 20:23

Dominic Hughes

It's called pandering. People like him do it a lot.

This.

July 27, 2016 - 20:23

Charles Torres

Are they doing a warrior chant? Are they going to storm the walls like this is Mount and Blade?

July 27, 2016 - 20:23

Ethan Mitchell

Shhh… Premier Obama is speaking.

July 27, 2016 - 20:23

Connor Carter

that's a lot of sirens

July 27, 2016 - 20:24

Levi Parker

"anti-capitalista" I think

July 27, 2016 - 20:24

Michael Bell

FUCK YOUR WHITE muh privilege
idpol time

July 27, 2016 - 20:24

Jace Ward

Well It can't be perfect.

July 27, 2016 - 20:25

Austin Scott

And here comes the idpol

July 27, 2016 - 20:25

Justin Robinson

Dear lord, could they not?

July 27, 2016 - 20:25

Ryan Cook

Why is Brian Cranston at the DNC?

July 27, 2016 - 20:25

Wyatt Jones

props to the drum guy tbh

July 27, 2016 - 20:26

Lucas Jones

ARE IDPOL AND THE ANARCHISTS FIGHTING? HOLY SHIT.

July 27, 2016 - 20:26

Henry Cruz

What happened afterward?

He keeps mentioning Baked Alaska, as well, who's a #FreeMilo alt-right shill.

Oh shit, cucklord is now back with the anarchists? Back to Periscope for those dank drum beats.>>822584

July 27, 2016 - 20:26

Jordan Martinez

I don't know about you guys but I'll take idpol anarchists over someone who associates with Stefan Molyneux any day

July 27, 2016 - 20:26

Eli Bell

He's consistent

July 27, 2016 - 20:26

Jonathan Brooks

Shikata ga nai

July 27, 2016 - 20:26

Aiden Smith

Holy shit they are. This is too fucking based.

July 27, 2016 - 20:26

Jose Moore

What do you think? He magically disappeared.

July 27, 2016 - 20:27

Cooper Scott

Damn, this Cory Booker guy speaking is smooth

July 27, 2016 - 20:27

Oliver Baker

Fuck your weeb muh privilege.
I don't know Chinese

July 27, 2016 - 20:27

Cooper Lopez

Beat the shit out of these fucking idpolers jesus christ. These are the shitters that ruined the Occupy movement, fight back.

July 27, 2016 - 20:27

Josiah Hill

Idpol intensifying

July 27, 2016 - 20:28

Easton Gray

I dig the drumming going on here

July 27, 2016 - 20:28

Jackson Ross

I saw some of them shouting at the guy who started the white muh privilege chant.
or whatever.

July 27, 2016 - 20:29

Landon Collins

Fucking idiots fighting amongst each other. Forgetting why they're supposed to be there.

July 27, 2016 - 20:29

Hunter Foster

...

July 27, 2016 - 20:30

Daniel Robinson

This got really embarrassing really quick.

July 27, 2016 - 20:31

Joseph Hall

...

July 27, 2016 - 20:31

Nathaniel Reed

fucking larping liberals…

July 27, 2016 - 20:31

Parker Cox

Anarchism, not even once.

July 27, 2016 - 20:32

Jaxson Sullivan

livestream.com/accounts/12767816/events/5981983?t=1469674906557

Found a better non class-cucked stream

July 27, 2016 - 20:32

Ian Ross

...

July 27, 2016 - 20:33

Lincoln Collins

top kek

July 27, 2016 - 20:34

Brody Allen

...

July 27, 2016 - 20:34

Sebastian Allen

...

July 27, 2016 - 20:35

Carson Wright

ibs habbeding

July 27, 2016 - 20:35

Dylan White

What?

July 27, 2016 - 20:36

Jason Barnes

Da Power of Love xdxdxd
liberalism intensifies

July 27, 2016 - 20:36

Justin Thomas

...

July 27, 2016 - 20:36

Nicholas Edwards

This kills the revolution

July 27, 2016 - 20:37

Michael Peterson

Alright, maybe I can handle this one

July 27, 2016 - 20:37

Connor Morgan

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

July 27, 2016 - 20:37

Jace Walker

That's one very jewy jew

July 27, 2016 - 20:38

Asher Hall

What are you guys talking about?

July 27, 2016 - 20:39

Luke James

Some girl on the other stream going on about love. Was posted above.

July 27, 2016 - 20:39

Caleb King

from this stream

July 27, 2016 - 20:39

Parker Long

This is really disheartening.

I got too excited listening to the anarchists chanting "eat the rich."

For a brief flash, I had a sweet moment of hope, of riots, of rising class consciousness, of actual struggle.

But then they started chanting BLM. The stupid lady started wailing about her dead son or something. And then fucking fuck all.

This is absolute bullshit.

July 27, 2016 - 20:40

Adam Powell

this one black lady on the livestream
she was talking about the power of love and how we're all one family and that we should get rid of money and use a barter system

July 27, 2016 - 20:40

Benjamin Peterson

The stream.
some woman wanted to end money and give out hugs

July 27, 2016 - 20:41

Brayden Adams

It's going to take a little bit longer for things like these to truly focus, but it's getting there.

July 27, 2016 - 20:41

Andrew Howard

...

July 27, 2016 - 20:41

Asher Garcia

We got to actually see the drummers, too, lol

July 27, 2016 - 20:41

Adrian Morgan

Anyone else think this guy with a B████ megaphone saying he only talks to people with megaphones is an agitator?

July 27, 2016 - 20:41

Jonathan Mitchell

don't get my hopes up user

July 27, 2016 - 20:42

Ayden Phillips

The shill strikes again
jpost.com/US-Elections/Clinton-condemns-burning-of-Israeli-flag-462586

July 27, 2016 - 20:42

Charles Nguyen

Link active streams please.

July 27, 2016 - 20:42

Levi Perry

WITCH IS ON, BERNOUTS MOVE IN, I REPEAT MOVE IN! THIS IS NOT A DRILL.

July 27, 2016 - 20:43

Ian Torres

Holla Forums will defend this

July 27, 2016 - 20:43

Ryder Hughes

A jew is going full Holla Forums on the livestream lol

July 27, 2016 - 20:44

Jason Hughes

Hillary's onstage now

I hope someone's loading their rifle

July 27, 2016 - 20:45

Cameron Richardson

That stream requires adobe flash player, which is not GNU friendly.

July 27, 2016 - 20:45

Adrian Torres

beaautiful.

July 27, 2016 - 20:45

Nathaniel Perry

LINK
The ones I watched are dead.

July 27, 2016 - 20:45

Nathaniel Wright

What? Where'd she go?

July 27, 2016 - 20:46

Alexander Edwards

livestream.com/accounts/12767816/events/5981983?t=1469674906557

July 27, 2016 - 20:46

Jeremiah Bailey

Soon comrade. The walls are gone and we're closing in!

July 27, 2016 - 20:46

Christian Wilson

This election is entertaining at least. It would make for great television if it wasn't real.

July 27, 2016 - 20:46

Ian Harris

Anything without flash dude

July 27, 2016 - 20:46

Camden Roberts

some of the most vocal critics of Israel are jews
Chomsky, Finkelstein Zinn, Pappe

July 27, 2016 - 20:47

Brody Gray

Flash should not be allowed

July 27, 2016 - 20:49

Liam Stewart

meant for

July 27, 2016 - 20:49

Oliver Flores

The FBI is now monitoring this thread

July 27, 2016 - 20:50

Jonathan Reyes

Whats this wikileaks voice recordings thing. I thought they were already released

July 27, 2016 - 20:50

Hudson Lewis

Lmao, they've been here the whole time, I'm sure.

July 27, 2016 - 20:52

Asher Ortiz

...

July 27, 2016 - 20:52

Samuel Martin

Cancer

July 27, 2016 - 20:53

Anthony Ward

oh no, the feds are going to steal my rare pepes.

July 27, 2016 - 20:53

David Adams

anonamoose on the scene

July 27, 2016 - 20:53

Owen Hill

#woke

July 27, 2016 - 20:54

William Kelly

holy shit the idpol is too strong
at least it seems to be a minority

July 27, 2016 - 20:55

Camden Brooks

>reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4uv9d4/protesters_storm_democratic_convention_wall_breached
>reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4uuyl1/shots_fired_inside_democratic_convention_Hillary_evacuated

July 27, 2016 - 20:55

Benjamin Jackson

remember when this used to be cool
it never was but I still like the aesthetics of masked protesters tbh

July 27, 2016 - 20:55

Thomas Thomas

I hate these fucking people. And Im black.

July 27, 2016 - 20:56

Mason Jenkins

that's shameful comrade

July 27, 2016 - 20:56

Leo Gutierrez

Fuck off

July 27, 2016 - 20:56

Daniel Campbell

Well atleast we know the cointelpro agents brother

July 27, 2016 - 20:57

Ryder Lewis

Would someone steal this fucking black supremacist's mic already.

July 27, 2016 - 20:58

Jack Russell

#LIT

July 27, 2016 - 20:58

Matthew Gutierrez

fuckin hippies

July 27, 2016 - 20:58

Christopher Smith

I am too, I can't stand it when I here people actually shout "white muh privilege" like these people.

youtu.be/GqNxne97ubc?t=44

July 27, 2016 - 20:59

Jonathan Harris

If trips, B████ rapes Hillary live on stage

July 27, 2016 - 20:59

Christopher Cruz

Trips confirm Hillary gets RFKed

July 27, 2016 - 20:59

Kevin Rivera

Ok, back to fighting, at least you were doing something

Seriously, who goes to a protest to further divide protesters?

July 27, 2016 - 21:00

Alexander Butler

What the fuck are they even doing…
That singing is painful.

July 27, 2016 - 21:00

Aaron Myers

My man :)

July 27, 2016 - 21:00

Carson Phillips

These stupid fucking hippies are burning sage while waving Jill Stein 2016 signs. Meanwhile, there's some black bitch whining about how blacks built this country and trying to treat it as some personal accomplishment while talking down to any white man who dares disagree. What a disgrace. Where are the militant anarchists? Or were they co-opted by these idpol pushers? Is this COINTELPRO?

July 27, 2016 - 21:00

Asher Evans

wow this is the second based 777 in a row

July 27, 2016 - 21:01

Lincoln Davis

Thats a lot of pigs in blue

July 27, 2016 - 21:01

Levi Lopez

There were some #smashthestate fellas earlier, but obviously not everyone's on the same page.

July 27, 2016 - 21:01

William Nelson

witnessed

July 27, 2016 - 21:02

Kevin Morgan

kek

July 27, 2016 - 21:03

Lincoln Gray

More than you think tbqh.

July 27, 2016 - 21:04

Kayden Foster

WE ARE IN THIS TOGETHER
ONE PEOPLE ONE NATION ONE JOB

July 27, 2016 - 21:07

Jeremiah Myers

Hippies need to get the fuck out of the green and eco-socialist movement and stop existing altogether. The drummers can stay, though. This drumming is dank as fuck.

July 27, 2016 - 21:07

David Flores

Trips confirm it based comrade

July 27, 2016 - 21:10

Cooper Perez

CNN Van Jones talking about how Obama talked about not being extreme left or right, but "bright & beautiful center"

ಠ_ಠ

July 27, 2016 - 21:10

Julian Adams

Is the convention over tonight? I thought Hillary was speaking tonight?

July 27, 2016 - 21:11

Dylan Smith

No, it ends tomorrow.

July 27, 2016 - 21:12

Luis Thompson

Just woke up.
Saw someone caught on fire trying to stomp on an american flag.
My predictions of something catching fire came true

July 27, 2016 - 21:12

Henry Cox

she was going to speak but now they have to wait for her human suit to come back from the wash

July 27, 2016 - 21:13

Nolan Nguyen

Thanks, I knew it was the 25-28, but didn't know if it had adjourned for tonight. Wasn't paying attn to the feed.

July 27, 2016 - 21:13

Nathan Kelly

meant for

July 27, 2016 - 21:13

Kayden Lopez

Leave it to liberals to circle jerk for hours and do nothing.

July 27, 2016 - 21:14

Angel Morris

All black people did was pick cotton, i can see they built the land because my house is made of cotton.

Good point negro san

July 27, 2016 - 21:14

Gavin Morris

How you brosheviks doing

July 27, 2016 - 21:14

Ethan Cooper

Thank you brother

July 27, 2016 - 21:15

Jonathan Cruz

Those fucking hippies have someone holding a sign saying "THIS IS NOT A RIOT".

God fucking damn it, those hippies are almost as bad as these idpol black supremacists.

July 27, 2016 - 21:17

Nolan Price

This black bitch again.. ugh

Streamer needs to walk far away from her.

July 27, 2016 - 21:17

Nolan Myers

...

July 27, 2016 - 21:18

Sebastian Miller

But I leave my house every day bitch.

Is she Freddy Grey's sister or something?

July 27, 2016 - 21:18

Gavin Hughes

So much for "stop letting racial politics divide us" lol

July 27, 2016 - 21:18

Daniel Martin

Dude talking about the election numbers tracker guy who got shot

July 27, 2016 - 21:18

Henry Campbell

Solidarity, black brother or sister

July 27, 2016 - 21:19

Jose Perry

Is the Queen Shill actually influential enough to get somebody killed

July 27, 2016 - 21:20

Luke Nelson

Different groups of protestors.

July 27, 2016 - 21:20

Thomas Lee

That's not what Occam's razor is, you fucking imbecile. Occam's razor is an axiom which asserts that among a set of competing theories which all yield the same conclusion, the simplest theory should be preferred because it should not be needlessly complex due to complexity increasing the chances of human error.

July 27, 2016 - 21:21

Charles Cook

easily

July 27, 2016 - 21:21

Ryan Richardson

The backbone of northern industry was built on funds that came from tariff on exports produced by slave labour. Cotton, in particular, was the fuel of British industry as well, from which the US took many of its guidelines, patents, skilled labor, etc. There was a reason the main political conflicts in the US during the late 18th/most 19th century was that of free trade and laissez faire pushed by slave-owners vs. protectionism and funding to nascent industries by the state coming from the people on the Hamilton-Clay-Lincoln tradition.

And even the family-plantation model of the Midwest was only possible due to a guaranteed market for food in the south which allowed them to sustain themselves without being gradually taken over by big property. If you think slave labour was immaterial then you seriously need to know your economic history.

July 27, 2016 - 21:22

Landon Flores

Terrifyingly real.

July 27, 2016 - 21:22

Kayden Campbell

Man I just can't take this idpol shit anymore.

July 27, 2016 - 21:22

Jace Martinez

most Clinton murder conspiracies are 90s era republican smear campaigns.
But this Seth Rich stuff is suspicious.

July 27, 2016 - 21:23

Brayden Hill

A..Are you serious?

Anyone with a couple hundred bucks or something valuable can get someone killed. People kill over drugs or a nickel, every day.

July 27, 2016 - 21:23

Henry Cook

This nigga is going full retard

July 27, 2016 - 21:23

Luis Robinson

...

July 27, 2016 - 21:24

Nathan Rivera

Hey, its a way to cover your face

July 27, 2016 - 21:26

Colton Smith

...

July 27, 2016 - 21:26

Ryder Peterson

What, i agree, my cotton house and the cotton streets, and cotton hospitals and cotton schools.

All built by blacks

lel

July 27, 2016 - 21:26

Liam Morgan

Anytime you see it pop up, just tell them it's dividing people. And we have to be together to get anything done.

I'm older(29), and didn't even know about this idpol shit until last year, tbh. Most regular people don't buy into it or know what it is. So just remind them it's divisive. There's nothing else other than that to say. We have to work together.

July 27, 2016 - 21:27

Camden Sanchez

the subleddit is apparently shutting down after the convention

July 27, 2016 - 21:28

Ian Young

This does not work at all if you're white.

July 27, 2016 - 21:28

Gabriel Roberts

Same here. And it's seriously suspicious.

July 27, 2016 - 21:28

Dylan Sullivan

FASCIST COMMUNIST OR JIHADIST
IF I SAY ALL THREE IN THE SAME SENTENCE
THAT MAKES THEM EQUIVALENT
THANKS OBAMA

July 27, 2016 - 21:29

Brandon Wood

Doesn't work if you're black either usually.

Lumpen proles can't into solidarity.

July 27, 2016 - 21:30

Grayson Richardson

Why would they want to kill this guy? First time I'm hearing about any of this.

July 27, 2016 - 21:30

Matthew Howard

It will. I'm white. If people don't want to hear it, then they don't really want change, they just want to further divide people. They should be directing their anger at people with real power, the ones who create & uphold this system: the legislature, cops, etc. Remind them. What is arguing with us going to change?

There's not much they can say to it being divisive, because it is. I'm sure some will still spew their divisiveness, but it doesn't change the fact that it is.

July 27, 2016 - 21:31

Kevin Wright

ripe time for /r/theDonald to do some poaching

July 27, 2016 - 21:32

Asher Turner

washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/police-identify-man-fatally-shot-in-bloomingdale/2016/07/11/4236fd1a-4754-11e6-90a8-fb84201e0645_story.html

washingtonpost.com/video/local/murdered-dnc-staffer-seth-rich-remembered-at-vigil/2016/07/14/4e6f5206-49c7-11e6-8dac-0c6e4accc5b1_video.html

nbcwashington.com/news/local/Man-Shot-Killed-in-Northwest-DC-386316391.html

July 27, 2016 - 21:34

Kayden Long

so Obama's speech is over now

July 27, 2016 - 21:34

Jonathan Brooks

Sadly, this is true. The only way we'd ever be able to cleanly remove idpol from a protest like this is if we had an entire squads of black moslem lesbians to beat the spookiness out of their dumb heads.

July 27, 2016 - 21:35

Anthony Nguyen

Every time I've tried this I've been cussed out and told about my muh privilege so we must live in very different areas.

July 27, 2016 - 21:36

Brody Sullivan

"He wanted to make a difference"

July 27, 2016 - 21:36

Eli Evans

Five years. Five years she's planned to rig this election, all so she can ensure that It's Her Turn. Man, she is one thirsty woman.
Gonna feel good when she's denied everything she's worked so hard for.

July 27, 2016 - 21:38

Aiden Howard

In all fairness, I don't associate with many people & moved out of the country a year & half ago. Even when I did hang out with people, they were never like that, but chill.

That's a damn shame. Those people cussing you out are ignorant. They haven't lived through enough experiences yet apparently to realize what's really important. Just tell them they're going to continue to divide people, and they'll catch more flies with honey/won't get anyone to join them if they continue that.

I know it's easier said than done, but that's all you can really do with these people, like said. It doesn't matter what color you are if you don't fit into their ideology.

July 27, 2016 - 21:41

Levi Walker

Good graphic. Short, sweet and uses common sense.

July 27, 2016 - 21:43

Jacob Harris

Rise above them m8. You don't need to discuss this shit with them. They're not officially the Left, they're just the Left as long as they're the majority.

Go talk to regular people, working people, office people, blue collar people, army people, etc.

July 27, 2016 - 21:44

Kayden Morris

...

July 27, 2016 - 21:48

Hudson Thompson

...

July 27, 2016 - 21:53

Cooper Butler

Felony charges?! So wanting to choice their opinion on the election, being denied so, may result in them losing their right to vote.

'Murica.

July 27, 2016 - 21:57

Parker Johnson

voice*

July 27, 2016 - 21:58

Xavier Moore

...

July 27, 2016 - 22:00

Asher Nelson

They should have known better than to leave their designated Freedom Space

July 27, 2016 - 22:09

Ryder Wright

THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING!!!
TPP WILL PASS.
WARS WILL BE WAGED
CORPORATIONS WILL CONTINUE TO DANCE OVER THE BODIES OF PROLES.

I think I now understand what those nihilists were getting at.

July 27, 2016 - 22:25

Nathaniel Butler

wikileaks has leaked a handful of DNC voicemails, this is what most of the party thinks of us:

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/fileid/16842/7790

more here:

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/?file=mp3&count=50#searchresult

July 27, 2016 - 22:38

Joshua Hernandez

Yeah, we found these when they released the 20,000 emails. It's funny, there's like 3 voicemails all from her, just bitching. Interesting to hear though. How stupid is she/neoliberals to actually think anything S█████ has said is bad?

July 27, 2016 - 22:41

Benjamin Reyes

bad for most Americans*

July 27, 2016 - 22:41

Julian Bennett

it's literally a crazy person that keeps leaving messages for them, they don't know who she is.

July 27, 2016 - 22:42

Christian Sanders

have you talked to boomers, they think anyone left of hilary might as well be a communist

July 27, 2016 - 22:43

Jeremiah Brown

What a sad sack of shit this first lady lol

But she's just a civilian, isn't she? So I don't know what's the deal.

July 27, 2016 - 22:43

Jordan Murphy

she's probably a middle aged lady nearing retirement or someone's recently retired grandma. Nothing about her seems crazy, at all. In fact my own parents have said more or less the same things as her.

July 27, 2016 - 22:44

Chase White

but have they donated inordinate amounts of money to the democrats and left multiple messages on varying voicemails ranting about how they shouldn't be impartial and support hillary with all they have, in order to crush those disgusting B████bros?

July 27, 2016 - 22:46

Luke Wood

Wikileaks needs some quality control on their leaks ASAP. I'm not interested in listening some old lady's rant ffs.

July 27, 2016 - 22:46

Jaxon Wilson

My mother does the same with the local PTA: whenever public comments are allowed she always prefaces it with "I've given XXXX so far to the district and…..", so that she makes sure everyone listens to her. In reality she hasn't given them any money ever.

You have to realize, these people just want their voices heard. They don't give a fuck if they have to lie, because they're middle aged women (usually with children if not grandchildren) who will never ever be second-guessed (as that's taboo).

July 27, 2016 - 22:50

Julian Bennett

I wouldn't call $300 inordinate really, she said she's on a fixed income so I'm betting she's retired and on social security.

July 27, 2016 - 23:03

Aiden Anderson

I think they only have four or five staffers so they don't have the manpower to go through everything. They just dump large segments of what they have and leave it to the public to go through it, which we should be thankful to even have that opportunity in my opinion. If we aren't willing to put in any work then that's pretty shameful.

July 27, 2016 - 23:05

Ayden Sullivan

PROGRESSIVE STACK ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?! THIS IS THE SAME SHIT THAT KILLED OWS AND THEY'RE STILL USING IT 5 FUCKING YEARS LATER

July 27, 2016 - 23:24

Landon Gray

Obama didn't actually say this, did he? I couldn't watch it.

July 27, 2016 - 23:27

Justin Gray

My parents are boomers. My mom I wasn't able to convince yet(she's the more religious one, too, who would've figured she'd be hardheaded), but my dad it was very easy to convince to vote for S█████. He's much more in tune with worker's rights since he's a damn hard worker. I sent many clips of S█████ to my mom & she said, "wow, this guy really gets it".. Then proceeded to vote for Hillary.

They're both southern dems, so it is surprising they don't assume the commie thing about people more leftist than them, but I do have some family deeper south that do think that.

At least it's getting better, generation after generation, I think. S█████ did great for making socialism not a bad word for many Americans nowadays.

I used to not think of older people holding us back, but man, I've come to find out this election how uninformed many are, all while they claim us to be the low info voters.

I did have an interaction on fb with one of my grandma's friends(also very old, probably 70s), around the time of that Nevada incident. She had the same attitude as the lady in that voicemail. Just incredibly hostile & angry about S█████ supporters. All they hear is what's reported in the media, so it makes sense they think we're all college age, young male, spoiled "children" throwing tantrums, and "booing Barbara Boxer" & sending death threats to Roberta Lange. This lady had no idea of what actually happened at the convention & why people were protesting the results, so I had to link her to all the info I had. She actually read the info, then we ended on an amicable note. I hope that impacted her at least a little to not go along with reported stories so easily. But who knows, at that age people rarely change their ways.

The DNC really fucked us with the media.

July 27, 2016 - 23:30

John Moore

lmao

July 27, 2016 - 23:32

Ian Evans

TBH it's not an argument. How is "But you're being divisive" any different from how Demshills talk?

July 27, 2016 - 23:43

Wyatt Morales

>One more thing: don't get angered, or upset, or fear these people. Emotional appeals are their dominant strategy. Use calm followed by rationality. It's super effective! at countering their methods.
This is what I was trying to say earlier with these posts

But this guy summed it up in like 3 sentences, lol

Good screencaps. Saved.

July 27, 2016 - 23:46

Asher Turner

see

July 27, 2016 - 23:46

Christopher Young

how is that a response to my post

July 27, 2016 - 23:51

Charles Cook

Did you read my posts, the screencap or what I highlighted?

These people play on your emotions, obviously, because what they put forth isn't rational. It's mainly about an ego-trip to them, don't feed into it by staying calm & rational. Irrational people/logic can't succeed if you point out the flaws in their argument, consistently.

July 27, 2016 - 23:56

James Russell

didn't mean to tag I've been up again all night

July 27, 2016 - 23:57

Austin Torres

...

July 28, 2016 - 00:10

Sebastian Reed

First OWS, then the Arab Spring, then Obama's promises… These pics bring back a lot of very bitter disappointment to me. I really hope this 2014-2017 wave of populism against neolib/neocon dominance doesn't just crash under its own weight, I'm almost feeling more disappointed than angry now with this convention.

THE AUDACITY OF THIS NIGGER

July 28, 2016 - 00:22

John Mitchell

reddit.com/r/politics/comments/4uxtb4/top_sanders_backer_i_was_kicked_off_the/

Info on Nina Turner. Top comment is good, too.

The article:
motherjones.com/politics/2016/07/nina-turner-sanders-democratic-national-convention
MotherJones sucks, but it's got info in there.

Blink twice if they have your grandkids, B████!!

July 28, 2016 - 02:31

Cooper Cox

REEEEEEEEEEEEE

July 28, 2016 - 02:34

Anthony Johnson

Christ I didn't realize how much of a wasteland MJ is. My apologies for linking directly to that piece of shit.
Here's archive archive.is/nrQbI

July 28, 2016 - 02:41

Easton Cook

Presented without comment:

twitter.com/COLBRZE92/status/758608589808365569

July 28, 2016 - 04:01

Jace Rodriguez

weird, liberals usually have a p strong hatred for malcolm x

July 28, 2016 - 04:43

Zachary Torres

wasn't too long ago they felt the same for Mandela

July 28, 2016 - 04:44

Brayden Green

...

July 28, 2016 - 05:25

Anthony Evans

...

July 28, 2016 - 05:28

Cooper Parker

Claudia Stauber for president holy shit

July 28, 2016 - 06:22

Cameron Young

By Barry Grey
28 July 2016

July 28, 2016 - 06:30

Grayson Sanders

...

July 28, 2016 - 06:30

Gavin Lee

I wish any of the S█████ delegates from my state had this sort of guts or conviction. Sadly, we nominated a bunch of useless retards when there were better picks all in the name of affirmative action horseshit.

July 28, 2016 - 06:34

Aaron Carter

You know you fucked up when your delegate references fucking Dumbledore before a national political convention.

Eesh.

July 28, 2016 - 06:37

Ayden Martinez

twitter.com/mikedogli/status/758578450760204288
GET OFF MY PRIVATE PROPERTEEE

July 28, 2016 - 06:41

Andrew Peterson

One has to laugh to keep from crying.

July 28, 2016 - 06:43

Jordan Scott

I didn't watch the speech last night but did Obama really identify communists as one of the enemies to "our values" (along with fascists and jihadists)?

July 28, 2016 - 06:43

Hunter Gomez

This one girl that was fucking drowning in idpol in her delegate pitch was nominated in the end fucking solely because she was black. She had ties to our corrupt state party chair and couldn't see the forest for the trees. Another dope was picked as an alternative after he mentioned at the very last minute that he was a 3rd generation white Mexican. Whew, so fucking progressive.

July 28, 2016 - 06:44

Jace Morales

"Fascists, communists, jihadists — and homegrown demagogues — will always fail in the end."

July 28, 2016 - 06:45

Aaron Collins

Yeah. Someone got carried away with sequels. Now we are getting Cold War 2.0.

He should've pretended that nothing is going on.

July 28, 2016 - 06:46

Landon Butler

the irony is that his speech was such demagoguery as well

July 28, 2016 - 06:47

Cameron Diaz

I mean seriously, that one particular black girl was quite possibly the worst possible delegate we could have had our of the 60 or so nominees, and the only reason she ended up nominated is because of all this shit about proper idpol representation. Still makes me fucking angry that she was nominated over this particular white man who was probably the most intelligent and class conscious of all the nominees all because of her gender and skin color.

July 28, 2016 - 06:48

Jordan Fisher

Didn't it seem like a lot of S█████ delegates sold out and and got in line yesterday for some reason? So much uniform cheering for Biden, Obama, etc. Where did all the anti-TPP signs or non-uniform signs in general go?

That's because they were replaced with shills.

youtube.com/watch?v=06R-6s3NSRc

July 28, 2016 - 07:03

Asher Thomas

There's also video on Twitter of B████ signs being collected from the S█████ delegates.

July 28, 2016 - 07:09

Gavin Fisher

Sanders is in a difficult position. I'm sure, in his heart of hearts, he knows that Hillary is completely unelectable, but he can't do anything about it without destroying his progressive movement. Hillary and the Democratic establishment are insane and he's stuck with them.

The next four months are going to make America the mockery of the free world.

July 28, 2016 - 09:08

John Roberts

Reminder.

July 28, 2016 - 09:18

Gavin Carter

They can lie all they want. Nobody believes the Democrats are unified outside of their own little circle of fanatics. You can go anywhere and find Democrats saying "Fuck Hillary". Nobody believes this shit.

They're going to pull a Mitt Romney this election and delude themselves into thinking they have this in the bag.

July 28, 2016 - 09:18

Aaron Robinson

But they won't. This is the frustrating beauty of a Hillary campaign. She's not going to get those people back because she doesn't want them.

July 28, 2016 - 09:33

William Roberts

They will have it in the bag if the election fraud that cost B████ the nomination continues unchecked.

July 28, 2016 - 09:36

Henry Richardson

There's a lot more oversight for the General Election than there is for the party primaries.

The Democrats are going to make sure their hands are clean thanks to wikileaks. Trying any voter fraud now would be suicide.

July 28, 2016 - 09:49

Thomas Gray

I can't see Trump take the voter fraud lying down if it happens.

July 28, 2016 - 10:02

Charles Walker

After the shit they pulled in the primaries, i'm convinced the democrats are crazy enough and desperate enough to try something equally stupid in the general

July 28, 2016 - 10:12

Joshua Harris

Hillary seems to think she can win without half the party base, and I don't see any other way she can do this otherwise. A notorious Central American election rigger also said he was in talks with a candidate to work with them during the general election and that candidate wasn't Trump.

July 28, 2016 - 10:19

Carter Hill

archive.is/zkinQ

It begins.

July 28, 2016 - 10:23

Juan Hall

Jesus just end it now

July 28, 2016 - 10:29

Chase Ward

to be fair, her and B████'s ideas on evolved plants and nuclear are kind of retarded

July 28, 2016 - 10:57

Robert Rogers

I'm sure if those talks actually happened, they're over now that DWS resigned.

I think the Democrats are seriously fucked. They're deluding themselves if they think Hillary can unite the party with fear mongering and IDPOL.

July 28, 2016 - 10:59

Jason Watson

...

July 28, 2016 - 11:04

Mason Clark

lol

July 28, 2016 - 11:17

Brandon Myers

>fox8.com/2016/07/28/schedule-of-speakers-for-final-night-of-democratic-national-convention-released/
Apparently katy perry is on for some reason

July 28, 2016 - 11:21

Daniel Hill

Some DNC official: we need to pander to gay people more. But how?
DNC official #2: Let's bring in that one lesbian pop star Katy Perry.
Some DNC official: Wait, is she really a lesbian?
DNC official #2: who cares

July 28, 2016 - 11:24

Tyler Williams

Well I guess since most of the S█████ delegates have vacated the building now I see no moral problems with gassing everyone else inside.

July 28, 2016 - 11:25

Jason Nguyen

Can somebody please, please find this part of the speech? I've got a friend that dosen't believe he said it.

July 28, 2016 - 11:27

Zachary Lee

Your mom is such a scumbag. I like her.

July 28, 2016 - 11:40

Matthew Garcia

youtube.com/watch?v=NnBjvBS8w9s (skip to 40:30)
latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-obama-2016-convention-speech-transcript-20160727-snap-story.html

July 28, 2016 - 11:46

Levi Harris

B-but muh cultural appropriation.

Gotta appeal to those boomers. For them Communism is still the big freedom hating boogeyman. Plus, it's bad enough for porky now that the youth is becoming more accepting of Socialism (even if it is just SocDem). They can't allow that acceptance to spread.

July 28, 2016 - 12:17

Benjamin Martin

They are but a bit of eco nuttery isn't really that harmful in comparison to the other alternatives.

July 28, 2016 - 12:32

Kevin Ward

I don't see how she can unite the party, everyone knows that her word is worthless. Hiring DWS immediately after that resignation certainly doesn't help either.

July 28, 2016 - 12:34

Christopher Campbell

Is anybody collecting high-res photos of the audience to identify them (or at least verify they're not delegates) later? It would make for a pretty damning exposé article.

July 28, 2016 - 12:42

Bentley Morales

Nuclear is cheaper when you actually compare it on a lifetime basis instead of the 20 year scale most comparisons use. There's also no danger when using modern plant designs.

July 28, 2016 - 12:49

Daniel Richardson

Even though the position is practically a window seat, that will probably go down as one of the stupidest political blunders in American history.

Nothing like adding fuel to the paranoia fire.

July 28, 2016 - 13:11

Colton Green

Cenk "Fire some ammo in some armos" Uygur gave a speech
youtube.com/watch?v=L3x0RIQbEp8

July 28, 2016 - 13:14

Jacob Gutierrez

...

July 28, 2016 - 13:16

Adam Williams

Anyone have any protest streams up?

July 28, 2016 - 13:18

Xavier Ramirez

youtube.com/watch?v=IMpXKtOfT6k&feature=youtu.be

I know most of the people in this are Liberals but it's still depressing.

July 28, 2016 - 13:38

Jace Flores

thought you lads might like this
facebook.com/humo.be/videos/10153637332291389/
inb4 >fb

July 28, 2016 - 13:56

Benjamin Sanchez

thred is ded

July 28, 2016 - 14:06

Camden Cook

Are you aware of what a colossal con-game nuclear is in the real world? Of the enormous amount of subsidies and bailouts (in fact, the by far the leading cause of utility bailouts worldwide) it's attracted? Of the fact that private insurance is so severely unwilling to vouch for it that every single plant ever built has "satisfied" the regulatory requirement for insurance with blank-check public insurance? Of the absurd cost overruns? Of the incessant skimping on safety and maintenance? Of the aged plants operating long past their design costraints?

psr.org/nuclear-bailout/economics.html

And that doesn't even touch on the fact that nuclear is completely unsustainable without the use of plutonium breeders, which have never once made it onto the commercial market, and have been banned by international treaty since the 1970s.

July 28, 2016 - 14:12

Justin Watson

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July 28, 2016 - 14:27

Angel Howard

SHE WONT STAY THROW

July 28, 2016 - 14:29

Charles Wood

this angers me to no end

July 28, 2016 - 14:32

Bentley Wright

any periscope protests?

July 28, 2016 - 14:56

Ryan Lewis

youtube.com/watch?v=cATOCWzdoGo Here's a stream

July 28, 2016 - 15:00

Ryder Barnes

Supposedly rally coverage - PoliticalRevolutionTV

youtube.com/watch?v=7LGukgRDv-I

July 28, 2016 - 15:03

Bentley Carter

uhhh, did this guy just praise the usage of jap internment camps in WW2?

July 28, 2016 - 15:04

Daniel Harris

Not An Argument

July 28, 2016 - 15:06

Chase Nelson

There was so much idpol I kinda tuned out

July 28, 2016 - 15:07

Isaiah Hill

How is that surprising in any way?

July 28, 2016 - 15:08

Gavin James

I was kinda listing all this stuff and then he called it American achievements. Lawl.

July 28, 2016 - 15:09

Henry Morgan

Yeah, I gotta admit I've always been more of a "human economies and nature should usually be separate". I'm all for camping, backpacking, or whatever, but neoprimitivists are colossal faggots.

July 28, 2016 - 15:09

Jaxon Carter

...

July 28, 2016 - 15:13

Isaiah Barnes

Dem evil russkies

July 28, 2016 - 15:13

Jacob Morales

What is up with the Christfag?

July 28, 2016 - 15:18

Daniel Gutierrez

Huge majority of the country is Christian, that's not an exclusively conservative thing.

July 28, 2016 - 15:21

Ryder Richardson

I wonder how MIDDLE MURRICA is actually digesting this drivel? Do they see through the hilarious contradiction of "leftists" bleating what used to be John Bircher fringe puff, or are they eating it up? I will be fascinated to see opinion polls a couple months from now.

July 28, 2016 - 15:23

Brandon Powell

Black B████ is speaking now, lmao

July 28, 2016 - 15:29

Andrew Anderson

Look up the DNC convention on youtube. They actually turned the chat off in preparation for Shillary speaking

July 28, 2016 - 15:35

Luke Bailey

The DNC's channel has had it turned off the entire time.
youtube.com/watch?v=cATOCWzdoGo
This one at least has chat, but it's garbage as usual.

July 28, 2016 - 15:36

Tyler Nelson

Chants: NO MORE WAR! during Leon Panetta speech - Democratic National Convention

youtube.com/watch?v=gCJuXx6Goq8

July 28, 2016 - 15:45

Jack Cooper

Based

July 28, 2016 - 15:50

Isaac White

Good shit fam.

July 28, 2016 - 15:52

Levi Murphy

The official Democratic Party Platform for 2016 (Final Draft)

Source of this document: demconvention.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Democratic-Party-Platform-7.21.16-no-lines.pdf

So yea or nay to based vertical agriculture?

July 28, 2016 - 15:53

Charles Harris

I swear they want to lose this election.

July 28, 2016 - 15:54

Josiah Parker

Hey Boxer, why don't you let Hillary know that? It's been 'muh wymyn' for months now.

July 28, 2016 - 15:55

Cooper Moore

If this was Dota 2, I'd report them for tower diving.

July 28, 2016 - 15:55

Nathan Fisher

May as well be toilet paper to wipe my ass with for as much as it means

July 28, 2016 - 16:00

Luis Campbell

It's not that long. Some might be interested in reading it. I know I will. I might as well, since I watched all 60+ hours of the drafting.

(Feel free to ask me questions about the drafting, btw.)

July 28, 2016 - 16:02

Owen Ross

u wot m8

Source?

Just use molten salt thorium reactors already.

July 28, 2016 - 16:08

Aaron Rogers

My point is that it doesn't matter what it says, the politicians will do whatever they feel like when elected. I'm sure it has all kinds of things like being anti-TPP in there, its all meaningless.

July 28, 2016 - 16:10

Cooper Hughes

this meme is getting old
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_fluoride_thorium_reactor#Disadvantages

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorium-based_nuclear_power#Possible_disadvantages

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorium_fuel_cycle#Disadvantages

July 28, 2016 - 16:11

Carson Foster

I just wanna die tbh

July 28, 2016 - 16:12

Gabriel Collins

Well someone needs to clean the floors while Hillary's leading the real struggle of destroying America's greatest and final glass ceiling :^)

July 28, 2016 - 16:13

Jayden Young

Yep, I've read all those Wikipedia pages before. The advantages far outweigh the disadvantages.

July 28, 2016 - 16:17

James Taylor

vid.me/4tYB

Filling the audience with paid shills for the big speech.

July 28, 2016 - 16:25

Kayden Nguyen

Scrubbing the glass toilet bowl

July 28, 2016 - 16:26

Parker Barnes

Dems are digging their own grave at this point

July 28, 2016 - 16:27

Josiah Sanchez

Definitely pro. Every available avenue for agriculture should be exploited. Hydroponics, algæ, waste stream segmentation, aquaculture, grazing… Whatever mix has the most results for the least resources, and produces pure, safe products.

You don't seem to understand what I'm referring to. There is a limited quantity of commercially viable fissile fuel available, including thorium (in fact, the amount of thorium in commercially viable concentrations is LESS than the amount of uranium), not even enough to satisfy one decade of global energy demands. The only way to stretch our fissile fuel supply is to breed it, and the only known method for breeding is to transmute whatever fuel into plutonium, keep it that way as long as possible, and do it again. I won't go into all the technical, security, and safety problems plutonium breeders are rife with, but suffice it to say conventional nuclear is a dead-end sham.

Has anyone verified the identities of any of the seat-fillers? Are they staffers, paid randos, or what?

July 28, 2016 - 16:42

Ian Flores

S A V A G E

July 28, 2016 - 17:00

Alexander Mitchell

Pretty sure you were the same user who's argued this with me before and to be honest you weren't convincing enough.

July 28, 2016 - 17:02

Jordan Smith

source

July 28, 2016 - 17:05

Colton Hall

still waiting on that periscope for the protests

July 28, 2016 - 17:10

Cameron Roberts

Has anyone else heard about some group that's going to try and perform a "citizen's arrest" on Hillary during her speech?

July 28, 2016 - 17:11

Ethan King

Eh, just as long as you're already aware thorium isn't a silver bullet by which we can ignore the same finite concerns nuclear has always had.

July 28, 2016 - 17:13

Gabriel Morris

It's not like nuclear fission should be our solution for the rest of time, but we do need a serious stopgap while we work on changing our energy system and so far our stopgap is 'just use more oil and natural gas'

July 28, 2016 - 17:16

Nicholas Cruz

vid.me/4tYB

Actors, blocked seats and white noise machines positioned over rebelling delegations to block out chants

July 28, 2016 - 17:17

Julian Gomez

It's not, because either we end up with Trump or a GOP Supermajority. The Democratic party is in full circlejerk mode and is burning down like the GOP did in 2006 and 2008. There is no win for them.

July 28, 2016 - 17:19

Elijah Sanders

pretty sure it was r34 of this

July 28, 2016 - 17:20

Jaxon Bennett

see

July 28, 2016 - 17:25

Xavier Sullivan

pls gib

pls

July 28, 2016 - 17:28

Jonathan Powell

Fucking hell. This would get even the Brits tearing shit apart. The guy is referring to the $50 whore that put out the reserve signs and is too cheap to leave after being rumbled as ma'am. This would start a riot or at least fights in Europe.

What a bunch of cucks.

July 28, 2016 - 17:29

Caleb Lopez

You don't get it, this is exactly what the Democratic base wants: they want the left to shut up, sit down and vote for Hilary. If they don't, then they can leave the party.

The most infuriating thing about all of this is that half the party does not want us here. They don't consider us (or our causes) to be relevant. The only things that matters is making sure that white suburbanites and urban blacks vote. So the platform is is porkyism slathered with a coating of idpol. Most Democrats will eat it.

July 28, 2016 - 17:33

Logan Lee

I do get it, it seems that all the people sitting down and shutting up and having a little whine about their seats being falsely reserved and white noise machines placed above them don't get it.

This is pretty much a porkie coup and everyone is too cowed to do anything. Hillary is far deeper into the pockets of corporations than Trump. Trump's in his own pocket.

July 28, 2016 - 17:37

Thomas Rogers

Attempting to fix the party is foolish at this point, even if you're a reformist you should be trying to kill the party at this point and try to help build a party that's actually class conscious instead of just pretending to be.

July 28, 2016 - 17:38

Benjamin Jackson

This will work in Hillary's favor I'm sure

July 28, 2016 - 17:39

Isaac Morris

That's why you should get arrested tearing down white noise machines rather than pissing and moaning about it.

July 28, 2016 - 17:40

Dominic Young

now that Hinckley is free maybe he'll finish the job

July 28, 2016 - 17:40

Ryder Thompson

The Democrats are trotting out pro-Hillary Republicans now. I get that they're trying to show this is "unity", but in reality it's just a tacit admission that the Democrats are a right-wing party not meaningfully different from Republicans.

July 28, 2016 - 17:40

Andrew Watson

People are only "shutting up" now because half of the original attendees had their passes revoked.

burn the barn, build a new one

July 28, 2016 - 17:41

Camden Ramirez

They're not even hiding it now.

July 28, 2016 - 17:41

William Davis

TRICKLE DOWN WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

July 28, 2016 - 17:42

Levi Cruz

classtraitor.jpg

July 28, 2016 - 17:43

Julian Williams

Obama used to invoke Reagan all the time when he was reaching out to republicans.
The party really has moved that far to the right

July 28, 2016 - 17:43

Aaron Murphy

lol remember when people said that S█████ would force the Democrats to adhere to a more progressive agenda? They're literally praising Reagan because they want the Never Trump republicans instead.

July 28, 2016 - 17:43

Nathaniel Reyes

this cop speech is surreal

July 28, 2016 - 17:45

Jeremiah Bennett

At least they're finally being honest about being right wingers.
Hopefully this will help push the last of the S█████ supporters away from the party

July 28, 2016 - 17:45

Aiden Butler

hitomi.la/galleries/390412.html
this must be it

July 28, 2016 - 17:46

Samuel Harris

...

July 28, 2016 - 17:48

Joshua Perry

yeah I do remember, that was a week ago before Kaine. Fuck this.

On the bright side, we aren't the only ones. Hilary is fucked this year.

July 28, 2016 - 17:48

Samuel Bell

The cheapest, fastest approach by far, looking at any analysis you care to, is simply conservation. The inefficiency of common technology and industry is staggering compared to the best designs. Decentralized heating and cooling, poorly insulated buildings, decentralized electric lighting, AC power transmission, gasoline vehicles, road transport for heavy loads… That doesn't even touch on the fact that today's conventional power could support far more grid storage than presently exists, grid power most forms of sustainable energy will rely on, and grid power which still has a better bang for buck than any form of generation.

Before we actually need to build generation capacity of any kind, there's a lot of slack for efficiency and buffering unexploited, so the whole debate right now is quibbling to me.

Is it really possible, the Democrats totally losing control of their base, and a hard-leftist Tea Party escaping its astroturf origins to swallow establishment candidates like an outbreak of kudzu?

July 28, 2016 - 17:48

Juan Miller

Most likely not, but its a certainty that its impossible to turn the democrats away from being a porky party.

July 28, 2016 - 17:51

Christian Myers

Looks like this is the founder of republican woman for hillary.

"trump is bad but so is covering people with cancer"

July 28, 2016 - 17:52

Jose Gutierrez

...

July 28, 2016 - 17:54

Isaac Nguyen

alright maybe it she is class shamed or treated like shit
nope looks like the retards were bullying a normie

July 28, 2016 - 17:57

Cooper Martinez

why does every black preacher sound the same?

July 28, 2016 - 17:57

Joseph Richardson

tyvm :DDD

July 28, 2016 - 17:59

David Morris

ok

July 28, 2016 - 18:00

Samuel Foster

Most of them are baptists, that's how baptist preachers sound, even white ones.

July 28, 2016 - 18:00

Matthew Ramirez

Are there really no protest streams?

July 28, 2016 - 18:02

Logan Stewart

As far as I remember, he's one of the good guys. He's a close friend of Cornel West, I think. I saw his testimony during the first phase of the platform drafting and it quite admittedly powerful.

July 28, 2016 - 18:02

Cameron Nguyen

Katty Perry is going to be a speaker tonight.

July 28, 2016 - 18:08

Camden Torres

Bite-size version.

July 28, 2016 - 18:09

Cooper Anderson

I've been mulling this over for a while, and I think I've figured out what B████ is up to.

Everyone is angry over smug Hillary, but one thing they're missing is SHE IS IN OUR DEBT. She owes us things. Remember those progressive agendas that are part of the Democratic party platform? That is the payment Hillary and Democrats made for B████ ██████' endorsement and for our votes. This is why she is pissed and why the media is out to kill us. They don't want to make anymore promises.

Now I know what you're going to say, "FAGGOT, HILLARY CAN'T BE TRUSTED", and you're absolutely right. Hillary cannot be trusted to implement any of those promises, which is why S█████ is out to put progressives in Congress to cow her in. Right now, there are 469 seats in the U.S. Congress up for re-election, 34 Senate seats and all 435 House seats. If we can fill a good chunk of those with progressive candidates, we'll have enough leverage to force Hillary to do our bidding.

Basically, S█████ is going to steal a play from the Tea-party and use it against Hillary. It's rather devious. The establishment can't stop it since they want control of Congress and they don't want to show disunity in the face of Trump.

The only flaw is that S█████ couldn't quite iterate his scheme to his supporters, but hopefully, given time, people will pick up on it. Then maybe they put some of that passion into local elections.

July 28, 2016 - 18:09

Gavin Martinez

What am I watching? She did nothing but babble about how Hillary is a women and they are actually streaming this shit.

July 28, 2016 - 18:16

Jace Ross

Do better America.

July 28, 2016 - 18:17

Gavin Morgan

...

July 28, 2016 - 18:18

Jackson Evans

anyone else /HEATED/ here?
GOD FUCKING DAMN IT, I JUST WANNA CHUCK A MOLOTOV AT SOMETHING

July 28, 2016 - 18:18

Luke Fisher

All i want out of this convention is a good riot.
We can't even have that.
When Shillary comes on stage people had better rush into the building with red flags or something.

July 28, 2016 - 18:20

Aaron Reed

Good go sow that discontent in others.

educate agitate organize

July 28, 2016 - 18:20

Charles Smith

Video of people outside chanting to lock her up.
twitter.com/Cernovich/status/758832913504886784
Yes, I know he's an alt-right classcuck.

July 28, 2016 - 18:20

Liam Nelson

...

July 28, 2016 - 18:23

Landon Collins

that one guy yelling no more war

July 28, 2016 - 18:25

Henry Lopez

Am I watching the RNC or DNC?

July 28, 2016 - 18:27

Blake Peterson

There is no difference at this point.

July 28, 2016 - 18:28

John Foster

...

July 28, 2016 - 18:29

Kevin Morgan

there was never a difference

July 28, 2016 - 18:32

Caleb Cruz

Finally found live protest stream.
periscope.tv/DoogieLabs/1LyxBbwYENPxN

July 28, 2016 - 18:33

Levi Long

the dems already have lost their base, union membership is at record lows

July 28, 2016 - 18:34

Zachary Gray

HOLY SHIT

July 28, 2016 - 18:37

Jaxson Ramirez

It only works if Hilary looses. The Tea Party only happened because the neocons led the party to ruin under Dubya. In 2008 the GOP were totally, TOTALLY, locked out of the government. It was either teafaggotry or death.

BURN THE PARTY DOWN, START ANEW

July 28, 2016 - 18:37

Liam Nelson

No shame.

July 28, 2016 - 18:43

Dominic Torres

Protestors saying they'll wait all night for the delegates to come outside.

July 28, 2016 - 18:44

Charles White

...

July 28, 2016 - 18:45

Sebastian Harris

Did hillary speak yet?

July 28, 2016 - 18:49

Adrian Rogers

How can you complain about someone being elite and out of touch and then shiil for hillary?

July 28, 2016 - 18:50

Robert Sanchez

They still stroking her ego.

July 28, 2016 - 18:50

Nathan Peterson

The real action is happening on the streets not on stage. Amazingly no idpol so far.
periscope.tv/w/1LyxBbwYENPxN

July 28, 2016 - 18:51

Luke Allen

no she should be speaking in like 20 minutes

things still to come

July 28, 2016 - 18:51

Liam Lopez

Is anybody else creeped out?

July 28, 2016 - 18:53

Ryder Carter

So there IS hope left for twerking on stage

July 28, 2016 - 18:53

Noah Miller

Holly shit they are going to do a stupid crowd card stunt.

July 28, 2016 - 18:53

Noah Gonzalez

HILLARY SUCKS AND WE GOT FUCKED
periscope.tv/DoogieLabs/1LyxBbwYENPxN

July 28, 2016 - 18:54

Jaxon Gutierrez

yeah that crowd start stunt information message was dystopian and creepy af

July 28, 2016 - 18:55

Jack Stewart

aids aids aids aids aids aids - Katy Perry
give money to hillary thanks girl!

July 28, 2016 - 18:56

Cameron Allen

youtube.com/watch?v=a4B2CGpB86E

July 28, 2016 - 18:56

Oliver Edwards

hahahahaha

July 28, 2016 - 18:57

Nathan Cruz

Why?

July 28, 2016 - 18:58

Cameron Butler

great convention lads

July 28, 2016 - 18:58

Gavin Reyes

c'mon Holla Forums

July 28, 2016 - 18:59

Chase Ramirez

And Beyonce was probably already booked

July 28, 2016 - 19:00

Owen Hall

Its like I tuned into the RNC on accident

July 28, 2016 - 19:00

Levi Peterson

...

July 28, 2016 - 19:00

Anthony Thomas

Theres a stream unfortunately its an alt right classcuck stream

July 28, 2016 - 19:01

Luis Scott

lets REEEEEEEEEE for Hillary instead

July 28, 2016 - 19:01

Gavin Ramirez

UAHGHAHHUAHHH

July 28, 2016 - 19:01

Austin Gray

which faggot is screaming encore

July 28, 2016 - 19:02

Lucas Thompson

trump has his kids and future rulers introduce him

clinton has her kid and future ruler introduce her

lets just get them a crown

July 28, 2016 - 19:03

Dominic Cook

...

July 28, 2016 - 19:03

Adrian Morris

Its not an altright classcuck stream as far as I can tell(no idea who DoogieLabs is). Streamer hasn't even commented regardless.

July 28, 2016 - 19:03

Zachary Johnson

God, that was horrible.

July 28, 2016 - 19:03

Benjamin Peterson

Thank you, comrade.

July 28, 2016 - 19:03

Christopher Price

see

July 28, 2016 - 19:03

Jason Hall

Since when did the dems get so nationalist

July 28, 2016 - 19:04

Ryan Cruz

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July 28, 2016 - 19:04

Jonathan Long

let us come together to coronate her highness!

July 28, 2016 - 19:04

Zachary Ward

...

July 28, 2016 - 19:04

Jacob Turner

Sorry got mixed up with the one from yesterday

July 28, 2016 - 19:05

Aaron Morales

periscope.tv/vivabernie/1RDGlkYMnwrKL

July 28, 2016 - 19:05

Adrian Reyes

It's a response to Trump mostly, I think

July 28, 2016 - 19:05

Gavin Reed

this nigga is seriously quoting fight club unironically

July 28, 2016 - 19:06

Mason Gomez

this fake ass story to humanise a person whose decisions have lead to the deaths of millions and misery of millions more.

July 28, 2016 - 19:06

Ryan Lopez

You get all kinds when you get thousands together.

July 28, 2016 - 19:07

Isaiah Ward

they weren't american tho, so it's okay

July 28, 2016 - 19:07

Camden Williams

Are you saying voters aren't fucking desperate right now? Last I checked, we have two of the worst candidates in recent history vying for the most powerful position in the land. Both parties are destroying this country with their death throws. America is at it's lowest point right now.

You know you're going to be stuck with one of them in the end, so you have a choice: Do you want the menace you can control or the menace you cannot control?

July 28, 2016 - 19:07

Juan Moore

Anarchists and delegates are meeting up apparently

July 28, 2016 - 19:08

Jaxson King

DICKRIDING FOR THE GAY
DICKRIDING FOR THE STRAIGHT
IT'S OKAY TO RIDE THAT DICK AS LONG AS IT'S HILL'S

July 28, 2016 - 19:08

Nathaniel Carter

I think the anarchists are planning to wait on the delegates. Pretty sure we're going to see tear gas deployed in an hour or two if they don't clear out.

July 28, 2016 - 19:09

Benjamin Anderson

looks like her mouth is trying to escape her face tbh

July 28, 2016 - 19:09

Daniel Sullivan

...

July 28, 2016 - 19:13

Jayden Robinson

It makes me feel good to see the red flags and anarchists at the protests, but the idpol is seriously worrying. I'm okay with some idpol, but not when it completely distracts from class politics and undermines the message of solidarity.

I don't know how to feel about this.

July 28, 2016 - 19:14

Lucas Bell

Well, she dosen't. She can lie to everyone's faces about who's she fighting for, but she knows who owns her.

July 28, 2016 - 19:14

Cooper Ramirez

At least none of the chants are idpol

July 28, 2016 - 19:15

Nathaniel Davis

Hillary has parents? I thought she came from a pod or an egg from space or something

July 28, 2016 - 19:15

Hudson Jackson

...

July 28, 2016 - 19:15

Robert Robinson

The ones yesterday were highly idpol, especially the black supremacist personalizing the "muh race built this country" message.

July 28, 2016 - 19:16

Noah Williams

...

July 28, 2016 - 19:16

Ryder Lewis

...

July 28, 2016 - 19:17

Henry Wilson

When will these cucks breach the wall

July 28, 2016 - 19:17

Daniel Hernandez

What stream?

July 28, 2016 - 19:17

Zachary Mitchell

see

July 28, 2016 - 19:18

Parker Johnson

True, I'm talking specifically tonight's. This probably isn't the same group as the BLM group from last night as there were multiple groups. Or the BLM group is just a small contingent of tonight's and aren't getting megaphone time so far.

July 28, 2016 - 19:18

Justin Ross

Are you endorsing Trump? Because Trump is easily controllable. Pence will reign him in, and more importantly with the DNC destroyed we can rebuild it to be a true socialist party.

Hilary is not controllable. She's the head of the party.

Hilary is the head of the party, she's the one in control. Everyone else in the party would have to kiss her ass even more if she wins.

So no, I'm not going to vote for her because a vote for her means a vote for her being successful in shifting the party platform to the right (even moreso than present!).

July 28, 2016 - 19:18

Zachary Carter

...

July 28, 2016 - 19:19

Carson Gutierrez

I finally understand what living in north korea is like

July 28, 2016 - 19:19

Jayden Scott

SEE, HILLARY WAS BULLIED. SHE PULLED UP HER BOOTSTRAPS

July 28, 2016 - 19:20

Eli Nelson

I don't think you do.

July 28, 2016 - 19:20

Jonathan Edwards

Wow hillary is anti-baby murder. That is a real bold move hillary. With the baby murder lobby in washington buying congress left and right she better watch out.

July 28, 2016 - 19:21

Bentley Howard

Im talking about the convention and their Hillary hero worship

July 28, 2016 - 19:22

Nicholas Thompson

more propaganda video rather than protests outside

July 28, 2016 - 19:22

David Morales

9/11
9/11
9/11
9/11
9/11
9/11
9/11
9/11
9/11

July 28, 2016 - 19:22

Brody Davis

...

July 28, 2016 - 19:23

Sebastian Parker

HILLARY HATES 9/11 TRUMP LOVES 9/11 B████ BROS CAUSED 9/11

July 28, 2016 - 19:23

Justin Reyes

Oh yeah…all that pushback against the 9/11 recovery effort. It must have been fierce for her.

July 28, 2016 - 19:23

James Diaz

Not Voting for Hillary is a vote for 9/11

July 28, 2016 - 19:24

Oliver Fisher

...

July 28, 2016 - 19:25

Christian Martinez

youtu.be/TvVHALw5Wmc?t=1m57s

July 28, 2016 - 19:25

Luke White

wtf? I love disabled people now

July 28, 2016 - 19:25

Levi Anderson

Bulk of politicians for both parties have been in full support of both the Patriot Act and now the Freedom Act.

July 28, 2016 - 19:26

Brandon Martinez

this is like irl bait

July 28, 2016 - 19:26

Christian Diaz

HER HIGHNESS IS FINALLY HERE. BOW DOWN TO YOUR QUEE..PRESIDENT

July 28, 2016 - 19:27

Ryan Davis

here we go lads

July 28, 2016 - 19:28

Grayson Adams

Holly shit the music sucks.

July 28, 2016 - 19:29

Nolan Perry

Now would be a great time for BLM to rush the stage

July 28, 2016 - 19:29

Jace Martin

AT LEAST MOST POLITICIANS HAVE THE SPINE TO ADMIT WHAT A FUCKING MISTAKE IRAQ WAS

FUCK

July 28, 2016 - 19:29

Andrew Rogers

Sadly most people support shit like the Patriot Act. And they view the Iraq War like a bad business decision. The same way people think of the Zune or Pepsi Clear.

July 28, 2016 - 19:29

Cooper Miller

Digging the new pantsuit 2bh

July 28, 2016 - 19:30

James Lopez

...

July 28, 2016 - 19:30

Mason Morris

Whats the deal with the B████ delegates? Are they not here, are they gonna boo, or walk out

July 28, 2016 - 19:30

Jose Turner

california delegation with the neon shirts right now

July 28, 2016 - 19:30

Austin Edwards

...

July 28, 2016 - 19:31

Grayson Long

...

July 28, 2016 - 19:31

William Martin

A lot of them walked out, and now they have a fucking white noise machine

July 28, 2016 - 19:31

Jack Russell

IIRC Hillary did in the same non-apologetic "mistakes were made, things happened" etc tone that everyone else apologised with

July 28, 2016 - 19:31

Nicholas Diaz

Watch the media deem this the best speech evar.

July 28, 2016 - 19:33

Colton Lee

hillary spending time recapping the dnc to the fucking dnc

July 28, 2016 - 19:33

Chase Wilson

Oh boy

Wait are they trying to drown out the booing? Fucking hilarious

July 28, 2016 - 19:35

Juan Harris

lmao, B████'s not smiling

July 28, 2016 - 19:35

Leo Moore

Bernie looks like he wants her to die.

July 28, 2016 - 19:36

Evan Clark

...

July 28, 2016 - 19:37

Alexander Young

there is still goodness trapped inside of him

July 28, 2016 - 19:37

Cooper Sanchez

...

July 28, 2016 - 19:37

Luke Jenkins

Bernie looks so broken. He knows it's all a sham.

I think the fire inside him finally died tonight.

July 28, 2016 - 19:38

William Allen

...

July 28, 2016 - 19:38

Leo Watson

fuck OFF

July 28, 2016 - 19:38

Christian Lewis

The man is stuck between a rock and a hard place.

If he goes full third party he'll be political pariah

July 28, 2016 - 19:39

Adam King

...

July 28, 2016 - 19:40

Aiden Cook

delegates are supposedly going to be walking out now

July 28, 2016 - 19:42

Nathaniel Bell

chroist

July 28, 2016 - 19:42

Leo Morales

Is the DNC on delay, are they walking out during Clinton's speech, or are protestors wrong?

July 28, 2016 - 19:42

Ryder Butler

Since they rigged the primaries & coronated Hillary. All progressives have jumped ship.

July 28, 2016 - 19:42

Julian Cruz

Shes insufferable.

July 28, 2016 - 19:44

Noah Wright

HELL NO DNC
WE WONT VOTE FOR HILLARY

July 28, 2016 - 19:44

Evan Sanders

Can we still impeach her after we elect her?

July 28, 2016 - 19:45

Hunter Scott

muy diversity

July 28, 2016 - 19:45

Connor Jackson

twitter.com/DrJillStein/status/758412847068119040
Jill Stein said more with one tweet than this entire convention

July 28, 2016 - 19:46

Lucas Brown

...

July 28, 2016 - 19:46

Jaxson Carter

Issue there is that Kaine's still a complete porky.

July 28, 2016 - 19:46

Jackson Hall

...

July 28, 2016 - 19:46

Charles Young

I LOVE YOU HILLARY. DEVOUR MY BODY AND USE MY SOUL TO POWER YOURSELF

July 28, 2016 - 19:47

Joshua Wilson

SHUT IT DOWN
based protestors

July 28, 2016 - 19:48

Camden Edwards

...

July 28, 2016 - 19:50

Nathaniel Martinez

Kaine is still at least against TPP, he may have made a lot of money doing law, but he has integrity.

July 28, 2016 - 19:50

Jace Garcia

he was literally campaigning for it the day before he was announced as VP pick

July 28, 2016 - 19:52

Cameron Walker

Nope he voted for the fast track.

July 28, 2016 - 19:52

Brayden Wilson

...

July 28, 2016 - 19:52

Easton Diaz

he's only been against it for a week, tops

July 28, 2016 - 19:52

Evan Hall

>phillymag.com/news/2016/07/28/sanders-supporters-citizens-arrest-hillary-clinton/
still waiting for these cucks

July 28, 2016 - 19:53

Ayden Gonzalez

Did you actually think that would happen? If that was even real they found out who it was and escorted them out long before Hillary took the stage.

July 28, 2016 - 19:54

Jacob Lee

Kaine, like Hilary, are both pro TPP and always have been.

July 28, 2016 - 19:54

Parker Parker

...

July 28, 2016 - 19:55

Camden Jones

I wish I was a fly on the wall, not a citizen, fuck this horrid nightmare of an imperialist oligarchy.

July 28, 2016 - 19:56

Austin Ward

This strategy is gonna backfire so fucking much

July 28, 2016 - 19:57

Julian Watson

AAAAAAAAAA WWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNN

July 28, 2016 - 19:57

Bentley Butler

IKTF comrade

How many million people are starving this moment in America?

July 28, 2016 - 19:58

Adrian Mitchell

...

July 28, 2016 - 19:58

Cooper Watson

Protest Stream is over, we need a new one

July 28, 2016 - 19:59

Oliver Thompson

got probably got kent stated

July 28, 2016 - 20:00

Logan Hernandez

...

July 28, 2016 - 20:00

Grayson Nguyen

Found this stream, he's interviewing people outside and this girl is pretty strange. Welcome to better alternatives.
unicornriot.ninja/?page_id=216

July 28, 2016 - 20:01

Connor Gray

...

July 28, 2016 - 20:02

Nathan Gomez

...

July 28, 2016 - 20:02

William Nelson

Didn't know B████ was speaking today

July 28, 2016 - 20:02

Jordan Turner

also
CUT IT OUT

July 28, 2016 - 20:02

Kevin Garcia

Fuck Im not even for reformism but holy fuck, that shouldn't be an IF

July 28, 2016 - 20:03

Hunter Murphy

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

July 28, 2016 - 20:04

Dylan Nelson

i ain't beggin for the scrapes of my labor. I want it all

July 28, 2016 - 20:04

Nathan Smith

Bernie's looking increasingly uncomfortable here.

July 28, 2016 - 20:08

Henry Reed

I'm afraid I can't do that, user

July 28, 2016 - 20:08

Carson Anderson

...

July 28, 2016 - 20:09

Joshua Wright

DEAL ME IN

July 28, 2016 - 20:09

Adam Moore

Should we start pushing that into the equal pay narrative by demanding our whole damn dollar as workers?

July 28, 2016 - 20:09

Nathaniel Gray

...

July 28, 2016 - 20:11

Gabriel Watson

KILL
ME
NOW

July 28, 2016 - 20:11

Robert Parker

anyone have a pic of B████ after she name dropped him with the college tuition thing

July 28, 2016 - 20:11

Isaiah Reed

Do people actually believe her when she says this?

July 28, 2016 - 20:11

Chase Cox

more than id like

July 28, 2016 - 20:12

Elijah Perez

Who is Jimmy texting?

July 28, 2016 - 20:13

Asher Diaz

His lawyer

July 28, 2016 - 20:13

Oliver Gomez

twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/758858618779217921

July 28, 2016 - 20:13

Luis Edwards

Those "Hillary" are so scripted…

July 28, 2016 - 20:14

Gabriel Perry

fuck off

July 28, 2016 - 20:14

Christian King

...

July 28, 2016 - 20:15

Nathaniel Green

wew

July 28, 2016 - 20:15

Luis Wright

This shit is worrisome fam.

July 28, 2016 - 20:16

Leo Harris

Hillary is so fake her supporters need to script their chants

July 28, 2016 - 20:16

Gabriel Robinson

holy shit

July 28, 2016 - 20:16

Matthew Butler

Any protest periscopes/streams?

July 28, 2016 - 20:16

Jordan Allen

send them to bumblefucknowhereistan to die for oil

July 28, 2016 - 20:17

Asher Jenkins

This would be hilarious.

USA - Pariah of the world!

July 28, 2016 - 20:17

Brayden Stewart

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/758862427840614400

July 28, 2016 - 20:17

Xavier Ross

many many thousands.
Do people even know that the poverty rate is over 14%.

What do you think?

Fucking kill me tbh

July 28, 2016 - 20:17

Brayden Nguyen

YOU HAVEN'T HAD A QUESTION FROM A REPORTER SINCE DECEMBER

July 28, 2016 - 20:17

Gavin Brooks

wew

July 28, 2016 - 20:18

Dominic Bennett

watch this get almost no coverage.
Or if it does get covered, watch people accuse the B████ supporters of being Russian plants

July 28, 2016 - 20:18

Henry Lee

low quality and keeps buffering but I can't find better.
unicornriot.ninja/?page_id=216

July 28, 2016 - 20:18

Owen Diaz

kek

July 28, 2016 - 20:19

Sebastian Hall

...

July 28, 2016 - 20:19

Julian Lopez

Remember that one time when she blamed B████ for sandy hook

July 28, 2016 - 20:20

Ryan Cruz

what they offered

July 28, 2016 - 20:20

Jace Murphy

cop wank now boys

July 28, 2016 - 20:21

Ryan Harris

PIGS IN BLUES

July 28, 2016 - 20:21

Sebastian Hall

since when did disabilities become a big idpol topic

July 28, 2016 - 20:22

Camden Watson

rights are important unless you are

July 28, 2016 - 20:23

Christian Williams

AMERICA IS GOOD

July 28, 2016 - 20:24

Luke Allen

I CAN'T TAKE THIS MUCH IDEOLOGY

July 28, 2016 - 20:24

Ryder Richardson

you forgot

July 28, 2016 - 20:24

Bentley Martin

Since Trump made fun of some reporter that had a disability without realizing he actually had a disability.

July 28, 2016 - 20:25

Evan Richardson

LADS FUCK THIS, I'M DONE. I'M JUST GONNA GO WALK MY DOG

July 28, 2016 - 20:25

Tyler Reed

...

July 28, 2016 - 20:26

Ryan Nelson

...

July 28, 2016 - 20:26

Christian Cooper

They are literally paid to shill

vid.me/4tYB

July 28, 2016 - 20:26

Ryder White

...

July 28, 2016 - 20:27

Ryan Cook

A Friendly Reminder that there is no Democracy only Oligarchs. Down with the Bourgeois, Down with Capitalism! Up with Freedom! Up with Socialism! Break the Shackles that bind you!

Viva La Revolution!

July 28, 2016 - 20:27

Jeremiah Rogers

Fucking kill me.

July 28, 2016 - 20:28

Kayden Hughes

BABY YOU'RE A FIREWORK!

July 28, 2016 - 20:28

Wyatt Richardson

COME ON LET YOUR COLORS BURST :DDD

July 28, 2016 - 20:28

Ian Diaz

this convention was the saddest thing ive ever seen

July 28, 2016 - 20:29

Oliver Cruz

holy fuck one of them has an actual top hat and tailed tux

July 28, 2016 - 20:29

John Moore

...

July 28, 2016 - 20:29

Blake Bailey

Better.

July 28, 2016 - 20:31

Luke Turner

THERE'S A WAY OUT OF THIS CAGE WHERE YOU LIVE!

July 28, 2016 - 20:31

Caleb Rodriguez

...

July 28, 2016 - 20:33

Isaiah Morales

also

Never forget that Henry fucking Kissinger endorsed this creature.

Who /nevervotingagain/ here?

July 28, 2016 - 20:34

Parker Edwards

The cringe is real.

July 28, 2016 - 20:35

Michael Powell

NEOLIBERAL WET DREAM

July 28, 2016 - 20:35

Levi Hughes

ABSOLUTE FUCKING NIGHTMARE

July 28, 2016 - 20:36

Carson Davis

DOWN DOWN WITH TRUMP AND CLINTON
UP UP WITH SOCIALISM

July 28, 2016 - 20:36

Christian Peterson

He's texting the local Socialist Militia

July 28, 2016 - 20:37

Josiah Barnes

I am living a god damned nightmare. The Bourgois have no bounds. This is truly sickening. Where did we go wrong?

July 28, 2016 - 20:37

Justin Evans

PILE OF HORSESHIT

July 28, 2016 - 20:37

Henry White

That's a lot more then 3 words, asshole.

July 28, 2016 - 20:38

Jacob Brown

end it now

July 28, 2016 - 20:38

Tyler Cook

LATE CAPITALIST REGIME

July 28, 2016 - 20:38

Jaxson Price

Arguing semantics with the choir rather than being out converting, I'd say.

July 28, 2016 - 20:39

Lincoln Reyes

evolution was a mistake

July 28, 2016 - 20:39

Henry Gutierrez

youtube.com/watch?v=gI0lDzU5FCU

July 28, 2016 - 20:39

Jordan Ramirez

HEY HEY HO HO HILLARY HAS GOT TO GO

July 28, 2016 - 20:39

Jonathan Reed

he he xd

July 28, 2016 - 20:40

Brayden Campbell

...

July 28, 2016 - 20:40

Jace Smith

THIS IS NOT DEMOCRACY WE DON'T NEED NO BOURGEOISIE

July 28, 2016 - 20:40

Carter Taylor

this
NEOPOSADISM WHEN
LET THE NIGHTMARE END

July 28, 2016 - 20:40

Jordan Myers

I WANT TO THANK B████ ██████
Ohohohoho

July 28, 2016 - 20:41

Jaxon Lee

Pretty good protest chants honestly.

July 28, 2016 - 20:41

Landon Hernandez

where is a giant steroid when you need it?

July 28, 2016 - 20:42

Landon Hall

link pls

July 28, 2016 - 20:42

Jace Davis

Pic related, it's the bern.

July 28, 2016 - 20:42

Jeremiah Nguyen

Viva la Revolution! Down with the Bourgeoisie! What have they done for us? We will no longer be bond to their bullshit!

July 28, 2016 - 20:43

Julian Powell

gib stream

July 28, 2016 - 20:43

Jacob Richardson

he only wanted to protect his family comrade

July 28, 2016 - 20:43

Ayden Gonzalez

Well that's that. Now who are you cunts voting for?

July 28, 2016 - 20:43

Hunter Thomas

livestream.com/unicornriot/events/5992910

it keeps dropping pretty often though, need something better tbh

July 28, 2016 - 20:43

Cooper Thompson

its literally on twitch.tv

July 28, 2016 - 20:43

Caleb Brown

...

July 28, 2016 - 20:44

Jaxson Jackson

he was asking about the protest, not the shitshow of the convention.

July 28, 2016 - 20:44

Luis Martin

Socialist Equality Party.

July 28, 2016 - 20:44

Anthony Clark

im sorry B████. we tried. :'(

July 28, 2016 - 20:45

Ethan Nguyen

oh, thought people were shouting in the convention hall again and people were asking about that, my bad.

July 28, 2016 - 20:45

Justin Morgan

twitter.com/DrJillStein/status/758866415541587970

#rektd

July 28, 2016 - 20:46

Adrian Cooper

They're closing down the subleddit

July 28, 2016 - 20:46

Colton Moore

Jerry White

July 28, 2016 - 20:47

Jose Ramirez

Green Party is the only rational choice.

July 28, 2016 - 20:47

Camden Sanchez

This

THE S E P
IS
GOOD
FOR
ME

July 28, 2016 - 20:48

Isaiah Robinson

those twitter responses just reek of Correct the Record

July 28, 2016 - 20:51

Chase Sanchez

...

July 28, 2016 - 20:51

Robert Anderson

Whichever one of these is closest to getting at least 5%.

July 28, 2016 - 20:51

Joshua Harris

The Greens need to get to 15% m8. They have my support.

July 28, 2016 - 20:51

Adrian Davis

Each party has an exactly equal chance of winning, so I'd say voting for any of them is a rational as the other.

July 28, 2016 - 20:52

Justin Ortiz

Greens.

July 28, 2016 - 20:52

Logan Ortiz

Dallas police shooter was pretty badass tho

July 28, 2016 - 20:52

Dylan Hill

Also when did Donald Trump endorse Jill Stein?

July 28, 2016 - 20:52

Jaxon Scott

Enemies of the Bourgeois are my comrades. I'd give my vote to SPUSA the greens seem to have a better chance though.

July 28, 2016 - 20:53

Brayden Gray

The only ratio nap choice is not to vote

July 28, 2016 - 20:54

Justin Butler

I mean come October, will most likely be Greens yes.

July 28, 2016 - 20:55

Levi King

Surely, you aren't this naïve? At 5% vote, the Green Party receives federal funding as an officially recognized third party. At 15% polling, Jill Stein can participate in the general election debates. The rational choice is the Green Party because voting for it would effect the most possible change out of those options.

July 28, 2016 - 20:55

Nathaniel Adams

kek

July 28, 2016 - 20:56

Hunter Bell

I like all the Putin stuff. Apparently the liberals have drifted so far right they're in John Birch Society's corner

July 28, 2016 - 20:56

Brandon Hill

Fuck K███ P████, fuck her with the fist of the revolution.

Also spoilers, in a FPTP system, there is no democracy. You pick whether you want red or blue, that's it.

July 28, 2016 - 20:57

Hunter Myers

Incredibly saddening to watch.

July 28, 2016 - 20:58

Carson Stewart

Welp, I'm at my parents house with my brother and until very recently his girlfriend. I didn't hear or see them, but apparently my brother was aurguing with his pro Hillary girlfriend. I came downstairs to get something to eat, just in time to see her get up, say "I'm going home" and leave.

Hillary Rodham Clinton, folks. Literally destroying relationships.

July 28, 2016 - 20:58

Christian Lewis

its for the best

July 28, 2016 - 20:59

Evan Flores

So she's available, right.

July 28, 2016 - 21:00

Benjamin Perez

Don't blame her, blame your brother's girlfriend.

July 28, 2016 - 21:00

Jackson Carter

Stream back up, less of a protest and more of a rally now.
livestream.com/unicornriot/events/5992910

July 28, 2016 - 21:00

Adam Wright

...

July 28, 2016 - 21:01

Eli Hernandez

kek

July 28, 2016 - 21:02

Hunter Foster

post her feet

July 28, 2016 - 21:03

Lincoln Torres

This guy does not like their controlled opposition.

July 28, 2016 - 21:04

Kayden Gomez

I wish I had pictures of them to share. She's a solid 9.25.

July 28, 2016 - 21:05

Nathan Torres

not my comrade

July 28, 2016 - 21:06

Lucas Brown

The fuck is this guy doing having a singalong telling everyone to vote.

Get down to the convention centre you fat Robin Hood hat wearing fuck.

July 28, 2016 - 21:06

Dylan Sanders

Is it happen are people gaining class consciousness or am I just dreaming.

July 28, 2016 - 21:07

Luis Allen

I don't think they're controlled opposition personally. They're talking about pushing grassroots on local level and that we'll have to conquer how easily things can be rigged electronically.

July 28, 2016 - 21:07

Henry Williams

People are gaining a bit, but people need to capitalize on this and not let it just get swept right back into the usual idpol liberalism.

July 28, 2016 - 21:08

John Sullivan

Is this just a meeting between delegates?

July 28, 2016 - 21:11

Jaxon Scott

Why?

July 28, 2016 - 21:11

Brandon Morgan

...

July 28, 2016 - 21:11

Nolan Turner

Because people never learn.

July 28, 2016 - 21:12

Chase Hall

disenfranchised delegates and other protestors it seems.
They're decent at least.

July 28, 2016 - 21:12

Luis Miller

This is the only thing I'm actually looking forward to, and it's agonizing to think I have to wait so long for it.

July 28, 2016 - 21:13

Angel Foster

Yeah I was probably being a bit harsh, but the kid was right, what is the point of separating yourself when you're at the gates to go somewhere else and have a circlejerk? You can't start a new party or build a new one, the FPTP system is fucked fundamentally.

July 28, 2016 - 21:14

Aaron Thomas

Someone tell me the part where they praised fucking Reagan today. I have a friend who doesn't believe it.

July 28, 2016 - 21:14

Noah Torres

I prefer a Trump win, democrats being proven correct that they do not need class conscious voters at all would be a huge problem in my mind.

July 28, 2016 - 21:15

Andrew Gray

Oh shit, support for Green Party and Socialist Alternative? These people seem alright.

July 28, 2016 - 21:16

Jackson Gonzalez

did u raep her

July 28, 2016 - 21:16

Ian Campbell

Based Ksama Sawant talking

July 28, 2016 - 21:17

Isaiah Ramirez

They'll do anything to suppress just how much of a shitshow tonight has been.

July 28, 2016 - 21:19

Michael Edwards

Free the Delegates!

July 28, 2016 - 21:20

Ryan Sullivan

Seconding this.

July 28, 2016 - 21:20

Eli Cox

inb4 van

July 28, 2016 - 21:20

Brayden Cox

best girl

July 28, 2016 - 21:21

Carson Howard

induring van

July 28, 2016 - 21:24

Dominic Turner

I hope in 2020 there's a Democrat who has some balls to challenge Shillary for the nomination after the country goes into a trainwreck due to her policies.

July 28, 2016 - 21:25

Isaiah Richardson

Sawant saying vote Stein.

July 28, 2016 - 21:25

Brandon Cooper

You are deluded if you think the DNC would allow and primary challenger to Hillary if she wins this year.

July 28, 2016 - 21:26

Nolan Thompson

any*

July 28, 2016 - 21:26

Hudson Walker

Sawant explicitly calling out Capitalism

July 28, 2016 - 21:27

Kayden Parker

Doubt it unless Tulsi primary's her

July 28, 2016 - 21:27

Luis Johnson

Oh shit, Khsama Sawant endorsing Jill Stein?! Damn, son.

This anarchist loves this Trotskyite.

July 28, 2016 - 21:27

Jose Wilson

...

July 28, 2016 - 21:29

Charles Bell

I think I found a comrade in Sawant. She calls out Capitalism it was amazing.

July 28, 2016 - 21:30

Cameron Fisher

I like the cut of this Indian qt's jib

July 28, 2016 - 21:30

Easton Bell

Problem is with all the fucking sellouts now the selection within the party is very limited. Probably just Tulsi Gabbard or Nina Turner as possible challengers.

July 28, 2016 - 21:31

Joseph Collins

Oh god, is this the crazy goddess bitch from yesterday? Or is she just preaching the same love nonsense?

July 28, 2016 - 21:32

Jayden Wright

I think its the same "love goddess" but stream's too low quality to get a good view of her face. She's a bit hippy dippy but I actually think I like her anyways as she has a lot of spirit and seems to know how much work it will take.

July 28, 2016 - 21:35

Blake Johnson

Spot the retard

July 28, 2016 - 21:39

Adam Kelly

You really must hate Holla Forums, huh?

July 28, 2016 - 21:40

Jeremiah Hughes

...

July 28, 2016 - 21:41

Mason Rivera

Seriously though get this bitch off, the last speaker was two speakers ago and there's a convention to ruin.

July 28, 2016 - 21:41

Connor Butler

this new speaker looks almost exactly like a guy i know

July 28, 2016 - 21:52

Jace Gonzalez

Well Damn this is getting good. I really really hope they become more awaken and not go back to their muh id/pol/ bullshit. This, this is amazing to happen.

July 28, 2016 - 21:53

Leo Mitchell

The bloodlust is overwhelming me. I want to knee that autistic 14 year old in the fugging face.

July 28, 2016 - 21:57

Blake Jenkins

Its finally over. now I can only hope to wake up from this nightmare

July 28, 2016 - 21:59

Ian Mitchell

Soon.

July 28, 2016 - 21:59

Colton Baker

This livestream really gave me some hope, tbh. Is it really happening? Is the fire rising?

July 28, 2016 - 22:02

Jose Fisher

They're playing democracy by Leonard Cohen right now.
Is this meant to be ironic or are they referencing Shillary?

July 28, 2016 - 22:03

Matthew Price

no

July 28, 2016 - 22:03

Elijah Taylor

you will never wake up for you are not sleeping

July 28, 2016 - 22:04

Gabriel Ortiz

Jesus.

July 28, 2016 - 22:04

Luke Walker

The horrifying truth.

July 28, 2016 - 22:05

Lucas Hernandez

New stream. Outside showing arrests.
livestream.com/accounts/12767816/events/5996125

July 28, 2016 - 22:07

Joseph Ross

...

July 28, 2016 - 22:10

Christopher Sullivan

Wrong link, use this.
livestream.com/unicornriot/events/5992910

July 28, 2016 - 22:12

Aiden Wright

at the very least we can look forward to death

July 28, 2016 - 22:13

Carter Williams

VERMIN SUPREME IS IN THE HOUSE

July 28, 2016 - 22:14

Ryan Green

There's always that.

July 28, 2016 - 22:14

Jacob Martinez

Love this guy

July 28, 2016 - 22:16

Nathaniel Rodriguez

What is the point of intentionally getting arrested as a political stunt when its obvious it will get no coverage?

July 28, 2016 - 22:16

Caleb Johnson

"Oh, it was awful. I was just trying to stand up for liberty when the fascist pigs came and arrested me for engaging in my civic duty!"

July 28, 2016 - 22:17

Brandon Johnson

where were you when america was kill

July 28, 2016 - 22:18

Colton Rodriguez

On the David Pakman Show, Pakman pushed Vermin to reveal his real views. He's apparently an anarcho-communist.

LARPing

July 28, 2016 - 22:18

Cooper Taylor

No way, really? Fucking based.

July 28, 2016 - 22:19

Mason Sanders

what a disappointment

July 28, 2016 - 22:20

Connor Adams

I think some of them think it will lead to a Rosa Parks moment or something but the media back then and the media now are completely different beasts.

July 28, 2016 - 22:20

Carson Wood

I'd totally believe Vermin is an ancom. he looks the part

July 28, 2016 - 22:22

Andrew Morales

Fuck off, m8. Trump is getting my vote because we always have the next election. Seriously, kill yourself.

July 28, 2016 - 22:22

Michael Phillips

From his AMA: reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/45rih0/iama_vermin_supreme_ama/czzo91u

"Mutual Aid - Peter Kropotkin Informed my anarchism."

He's an ancom / ansyn.

I can look for the interview, as well, if you want, but I can't guarantee I can find it.

tankies get rekt :^)

July 28, 2016 - 22:23

Justin Stewart

Are those the people that were in the rally earlier?

July 28, 2016 - 22:28

Ryan Scott

I think they're still partying, but I don't know. The feed cut.

July 28, 2016 - 22:29

Ayden Hall

Reason I thought it could be them is they were talking about going back into the street after finishing speaking.

July 28, 2016 - 22:31

Connor Torres

youtube.com/watch?v=l-bWKPiFGZQ

July 28, 2016 - 22:37

Adrian Evans

So there wasn't anything explicitly praising Reagan after all, then? They just invited one of his sycophants to the convention?

July 28, 2016 - 22:42

Juan Gutierrez

vermin

Fucking based

July 28, 2016 - 22:44

Joshua Richardson

New Economic Update today, Wolff-senpai talks all about the unseen poverty of Philadelphia while the DNC wines and dines pop stars:

youtube.com/watch?v=zP15Fsa2a1M

July 28, 2016 - 22:45

Adam Hughes

I honestly missed that part and just looked at whatever I could find on Youtube, but at the very least they let somebody praise Reagan on stage. ("Place a statue of Reagan in California", "Reagan knew a leader needs diplomacy")

July 28, 2016 - 22:45

Logan Ortiz

that third logo is kind of unfortunate

the way things are going I'm not sure of that

July 28, 2016 - 22:46

Ayden Ross

Hillary will implement more worker-fucking policies than you can even imagine. How is she a better choice than Trump? Considering electing her will mean that people might start to give up on socialism instead of embracing it, I think Trump is the best option.

July 28, 2016 - 22:49

Luis Perez

You aren't a leftist.

July 28, 2016 - 22:56

Adam Taylor

You are retarded.

July 28, 2016 - 22:57

Ayden Lee

Both are porkies. That said I'd still vote Trump over Clinton just because I don't want the democrats to start thinking that they can win everything with idpol and no concessions to workers which is the message they'd take home from a win. So if I lived in a battleground state I'd probably vote Trump but as I don't I'm voting Stein.

July 28, 2016 - 22:57

Ayden Williams

Stop posting.

July 28, 2016 - 22:58

Hudson Parker

I'm not letting Hillary win. That's why I'm voting.

July 28, 2016 - 22:59

Jaxson Watson

The choices are two literal porkies. If you vote for either, you can't call yourself a radical leftist, simple as that.

July 28, 2016 - 23:00

Jaxson Thompson

If one is less harmful for the working class i don't care if they are a porky or a turtle right now. This is some desperate reaching from hillary shills.

July 28, 2016 - 23:06

Julian Adams

Are you fucking serious? A republican controlled congress able to pass whatever the fuck they want with a republican president would be much worse for workers then if shillary was running the show.

July 28, 2016 - 23:08

Aiden Stewart

They're scraping the bottom of the barrel THAT hard to distract people with Trump?

It ain't worth it m8, it's never, ever worth it.

If I can't vote for someone I support, I'll vote for whatever will hammer at the cracks in the two-party system that prevents me from doing so. And that's Trump.

July 28, 2016 - 23:10

Julian Hill

Fuck.

July 28, 2016 - 23:15

Isaac Jackson

Voting Stein sends the same message to the Democrats while also telling people it's possible to build a new party.

July 28, 2016 - 23:15

Jacob Taylor

Hillary's husband signed a shitload of anti-worker legislation. Why do you think she'll be any better than Trump with regard to vetoes?

July 28, 2016 - 23:16

Ryan Cook

...

July 28, 2016 - 23:17

Carson Moore

Which is why I'm voting Stein. But its meaningless if Clinton were to still win as they'd think, "See we definitely don't need them" which is why I'd vote Trump if I was in a swing state

July 28, 2016 - 23:17

William Hernandez

CUT THE FENCE
STORM THE CONVENTION
FREE THE DELEGATES
STOP THE LIES
When are you cucks going to actually do something!? I was promised riots!

July 28, 2016 - 23:17

Landon Perry

I hardly think she'll be any better, I just think she'll veto some of the worst things republicans try to push, if only out of spite.

July 28, 2016 - 23:18

Brayden Allen

Fuck off Holla Forums noone promised you anything.

July 28, 2016 - 23:18

Thomas Perry

...

July 28, 2016 - 23:30

Jackson Johnson

...

July 28, 2016 - 23:36

Brandon Adams

Apparently they shut the lights off to the Oregon delegation when they started this chant up.

youtube.com/watch?v=JKU8ZohB8bE

July 28, 2016 - 23:37

Juan Smith

The flaw in his plan is that since the election was rigged against him, why should we trust it to be more fair to other progressives?

July 29, 2016 - 00:14

Gabriel Jones

What the fuck? Yeah I'm sure doubling the minimum wage will just fuck the workers over bigtime.

July 29, 2016 - 00:17

Hunter Turner

I've got a bridge to sell you.

July 29, 2016 - 00:20

Bentley Taylor

I wonder if this is like how others felt during periods of history when an obviously corrupt despot was in power and some people knew shit was bad but the media brainwashed too many people and nothing happened.

You would think goodness would prevail but history is written by the winners.

July 29, 2016 - 00:26

Julian Ramirez

wtf is this from? The Dallas shooter didn't enter a building like this iirc.

July 29, 2016 - 00:39

Nathan Lee

yeah but the green party is shit and Jill is a goof.

July 29, 2016 - 00:40

Cooper Reed

I fucking hate these pop stars so much.

July 29, 2016 - 00:41

Henry Perry

Hey, at least it's not like Bush v. Gore, where the bad guy was moments from getting gang-raped by the accumulated consequences of his sloppy corruption just months after clambering to the throne, when a mysteriously opportune catastrophe buried his enemies in bullshit and rooted him in place yet.

July 29, 2016 - 00:44

Asher Jones

...

July 29, 2016 - 00:44

Tyler Jackson

...

July 29, 2016 - 00:45

Aaron Brown

My bad, it was Detroit.

youtube.com/watch?v=P21rjGAuhBo

July 29, 2016 - 00:45

Jaxon Watson

Voting for Trump will maintain discontent. Hillary will seem like the "left" choice and set back revolutionary potential. Kill yourself.

July 29, 2016 - 06:04

Connor Anderson

one last strawpoll
strawpoll.me/10862839

July 29, 2016 - 06:41

Brody Hernandez

Name one piece of pro-worker legislation she's sponsored. You can't. She's for the TPP. She's for fucking you over in favor of banks. It's almost like you've forgotten why Bernardfags hated her.

July 29, 2016 - 06:43

Robert Robinson

politico.com/story/2016/07/dnc-debbie-wasserman-schultz-226352

Clinton hired a skag to rig the primaries in her favor, and in the process, destroyed the entire Democratic party

July 29, 2016 - 06:49

Wyatt Sanders

projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/#now

I wonder what she will do if she drops down further

July 29, 2016 - 07:30

Landon Carter

The post-convention bump is (usually) a thing, there's a fair chance her numbers will increase in the short term at least.

July 29, 2016 - 07:35

Jayden Gutierrez

...

July 29, 2016 - 07:42

Elijah Scott

The same she did when B████ gained ground.

She'll turn into her opponent, oh boy.

July 29, 2016 - 07:44

Robert Myers

Well a lot of progressives and bern outs are pretty fucking mad.
Also does wikilieaks have more info?

Would be smart of them to drop it on sunday leading into the news week

July 29, 2016 - 07:46

Christopher Nelson

the DNC lately:
youtube.com/watch?v=8FHpOLiobmA

July 29, 2016 - 07:59

Dylan Reyes

...

July 29, 2016 - 08:07

James Long

That shit be Orwellian bro.

July 29, 2016 - 08:26

Isaac Martin

They shouldn't have disenfranchised all of those voters.

July 29, 2016 - 08:56

Christian Wright

...

July 29, 2016 - 08:58

Austin Foster

I hope they like that "trust" angle, because they're going to be using it for the next four months.

July 29, 2016 - 09:00

Ryan Garcia

maybe we'll get lucky and she'll have another stroke

July 29, 2016 - 09:01

Evan Davis

Anyone have any footage of that rally involving protestors, Jill Stein, and Ksama Sawant that was supposed to take place today at 12?

July 29, 2016 - 09:24

Jason Turner

...

July 29, 2016 - 10:56

Levi Sanders

I just want to vomit out everything inside me

July 29, 2016 - 11:05

Colton Wright

I think i just threw up in my mouth

July 29, 2016 - 11:16

Julian Ward

Do people have no self-awareness? how is it that they live in such a fantasy world?

Goddamn.

July 29, 2016 - 11:35

Oliver Perry

Frankly I hope she drops to 30% or something early on. The lower she goes, the faster someone like B████ can take over.

July 29, 2016 - 11:39

Xavier James

What did she mean by this?

July 29, 2016 - 11:44

Liam Brooks

is this real

July 29, 2016 - 11:50

Jackson Long

yes

July 29, 2016 - 11:51

Charles Cox

are you fucking kidding

July 29, 2016 - 11:51

Tyler Parker

facebook.com/claudia.stauber/videos/10208776020210828/

CHeck this out guys

July 29, 2016 - 11:52

Brody Morgan

if this is real, it's an attempt to defuse and totally subvert the word

July 29, 2016 - 11:54

Camden Edwards

Link?

July 29, 2016 - 11:54

Adrian Perry

it's fake you idiots

July 29, 2016 - 11:57

Nathan Williams

So, no social healthcare?

July 29, 2016 - 11:58

Dominic Carter

...

July 29, 2016 - 11:59

Parker Nelson

tbh she is probably going to call herself socialist at some point

July 29, 2016 - 12:00

Aiden Morgan

lel, Susan B. Anthony hated black people.

July 29, 2016 - 12:01

Jonathan Reed

I don't think so. She's pivoting hard to pander to disaffected neocons now. No way would she jeopardize that with the S-word.

July 29, 2016 - 12:01

Parker Butler

Nice.

July 29, 2016 - 12:02

Cameron Rodriguez

Wait, so it wasn't before?

July 29, 2016 - 12:07

Adam Butler

It is all a façade, the Democratic Party just wants to have a cult of personality around Hillary and promote the illusion that Hillary will end all inequality simply by being elected.

July 29, 2016 - 13:49

Nathaniel Smith

In that do I think that S was using the term in order to defuse and subvert its meaning? No.

While we can all likely agree that his platform (if not his rhetoric) was incongruous with actual socialist policy, I (optimistically) think the intent was more aimed at rehabilitation of a word mired in 50 years of cold war propaganda.

July 29, 2016 - 14:04

Alexander Wright

archive.is/yyAiq

July 29, 2016 - 14:05

Benjamin Gutierrez

Yet idiots still think the democratic part can be salvaged.

July 29, 2016 - 14:11

Noah Hernandez

If Barnie called himself a socdem, then he would have to defend himself from people calling him socialist. This would vilify the word even more

July 29, 2016 - 14:19

Ryder Rogers

Let's pray North Korea's nukes wipe this country of the face of the earth.

July 29, 2016 - 14:20

David Jones

The Democrats need a serious house cleaning, but we don't have enough time to do that right now without without plunging the nation into ruin.

This is an election year where everyone loses. I think Ralph Nader is right. After this shit, we're going to see a boom in third and fourth parties.

July 29, 2016 - 14:28

Jonathan Lee

Fuck the Democrats, there is nothing of value left in the party.

July 29, 2016 - 14:30

Joshua Robinson

This.

July 29, 2016 - 14:32

Landon Clark

There's still S█████.

July 29, 2016 - 14:33

Jonathan Lopez

apparently bernard has some qt asian grandkids (no pedo)

July 29, 2016 - 14:34

Brandon Carter

Sanders is an Independent.

July 29, 2016 - 14:36

Blake Edwards

That is a good point.

These people are vile…

July 29, 2016 - 14:51

Evan Garcia

is dat pic 4 real

July 29, 2016 - 14:51

Samuel White

The pictures of S█████ is real. Him not having that mark a few days before then is real. Who knows about the rest, wouldn't surprise me though. He looked completely disgusted last night and the day before.

July 29, 2016 - 15:15

Aaron Gutierrez

hmm…

July 29, 2016 - 15:21

Adam Carter

SCARED

PANIC

Remember, you only need a five year residency in Argentina to gain citizenship.

July 29, 2016 - 15:28

Ethan Phillips

his 2nd account is better tbh. a lot less shilling
twitter.com/SenSanders

July 29, 2016 - 15:30

Alexander Johnson

Strange, seeing as Jeb and Hillary were the ones with the most money invested in them.

And Trump is technically running more on vague ideas and being a caricature than on money.

July 29, 2016 - 15:32

Dominic Harris

Isn't Chile less of a clusterfuck?

July 29, 2016 - 15:37

Gavin Murphy

As opposed to winning elections based on having a vagina?

July 29, 2016 - 15:43

Christian Morgan

This makes me want to fill congress with progressives.

July 29, 2016 - 15:46

Nolan Fisher

Chilean food is shit.

They also eat this thing. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyura_chilensis

And the Chilean coastlines have a lot of vicious Humboldt squids.

Also, the military dictatorship in Argentina had the single net benefit of keeping out harmful Western media pop culture.

Argentina also remains a worker's paradise in that everyone is lazy- great place to work, but a terrible place to own a business.

Lastly, not only is the food good- but organic foods are cheap as can be- snacks and junk food however are very expensive.

McDonald’s and other fast food chains can't compete in their market due to the price of a shit-burger with fries being the same as a regular large (platter sized) meat sandwich with bacon and all the extras.

July 29, 2016 - 15:58

Elijah Hill

Is this a joke? Are you from Argentina?

July 29, 2016 - 15:59

Julian Baker

Because shit like increasing the minimum wage is crumbs compared with what corporations and the plutocrats will walk away with if she gets her way and inevitably pushes TTIP/TPP and other porky-favouring policies

And she will push through with it if she wins with the justification that her electoral victory was some sort of implicit mandate to do whatever she wants

July 29, 2016 - 16:01

Grayson Sanchez

I'm friends with one, we've spoken at length about various aspects of Argentina.

One example he mentioned was a Chinese man that immigrated years ago, he noted over the years the drastic shift in his character.

He started out lean, and hard working, but now he's fat, lazy, and his wife constantly complains.

It sounds like a remarkable place.

July 29, 2016 - 16:03

Ayden Jackson

...

July 29, 2016 - 16:03

Eli Martin

Humboldt squid really aren't all that vicious. It's really just the razor tentacles that give them a bad rep.

July 29, 2016 - 16:09

Aaron Smith

That's why you elect progressives to Congress, man.

July 29, 2016 - 16:10

Connor Lopez

Hello CTR, trying to earn your bit of the 6 million I see.
opensecrets.org/pacs/lookup2.php?strID=C00578997

July 29, 2016 - 16:18

Parker Parker

When did progressive become the word for socdem in america?

July 29, 2016 - 16:21

Isaiah Kelly

Hmmmm

July 29, 2016 - 16:23

Aiden Cooper

Since socialism got a negative connotation, though its not really socdem because the idpol shit outweighs class conscious policies.

July 29, 2016 - 16:24

Xavier Nelson

American progressives/liberals/'leftists' are not rooted in the labor movement/socialist/socdem tradition like European leftists.

July 29, 2016 - 16:24

Austin Jackson

u wot? Shillary loves calling herself "progressive", and she's nothing resembling a socdem.

July 29, 2016 - 16:24

Samuel Sullivan

Possibly before the social democrat phrase even existed.

July 29, 2016 - 16:25

Josiah Evans

HOLY SHIT

July 29, 2016 - 16:29

James Jones

I really wish Europoors would stay out American politics. They have their own shit to deal with. Or not deal with, since they can't be troubled to vote.

July 29, 2016 - 16:29

Wyatt Phillips

She leads the party, legislators lick her boot. The only reason the Tea Party could stage an insurgency was because in 2008 the GOP was almost dead. The neocons ruined the party and themselves.

Your strategy ONLY works if Hilary looses this year.

July 29, 2016 - 16:30

Cameron Collins

This shit should be going viral tbh. When is Jules going to drop the fucking Clinton Foundation leak?

July 29, 2016 - 16:31

Ryder Harris

probably in a week or so. The DNCleaks only came out 7 days ago. He'll probably give it another week for the news cycle to flip over into the general election

July 29, 2016 - 16:32

Austin Williams

Im sure its all just a coincidence. nothing to see here proles

July 29, 2016 - 16:33

Isaac Baker

well hillary says a lot of things

July 29, 2016 - 16:35

Ian Martinez

Debatable, as they have reputation for snatching up fishermen to their deaths.

squid-world.com/humboldt-squid/

July 29, 2016 - 16:35

Jonathan Morales

Even dogs will attack people if they're starving.

July 29, 2016 - 16:38

Logan Turner

This. I think the best hope in a two-party system like the US' is to go full Trump and reform it from the top - from there the butthurt neoliberal losers can either adjust to the new normal, or fuck off to the other side after much bitching and whining about how "the party of FDR and Obama is no more ;_____;"

Trying to reform it from the bottom usually just allows the party to continue as normal while using the down-ticket "revolutionaries" for moral legitimacy.

July 29, 2016 - 16:40

Jace Butler

...

July 29, 2016 - 16:49

Carson Johnson

Isn't he though?

July 29, 2016 - 16:53

Eli Watson

obviously

July 29, 2016 - 16:54

Ian Bailey

Well dogs can be a serious problem.

In 1695, there were so many dogs that Edo began to smell horribly. An apprentice was even executed because he wounded a dog. Finally, the trouble was taken to a distance, as over 50,000 dogs were deported to kennels in the suburbs of the city where they would be housed. They were apparently fed rice and fish which were at the expense of the taxpaying citizens of Edo.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokugawa_Tsunayoshi

July 29, 2016 - 16:56

Ethan Stewart

He's an atheist jew. Guy in the emails obviously knew nothing about jews.

July 29, 2016 - 16:58

Nicholas Martin

There's plenty of animals that have the potential to be a problem if food becomes scarce or they become overpopulated. That doesn't make them inherently vicious under normal conditions.

July 29, 2016 - 17:01

Ayden Collins

Fair point, but I wouldn't want to be in the waters where such animals are known to go hungry and take such drastic actions- dragging me to the depths until my ears bleed as they gnash at me with those serrated like suction cups.

July 29, 2016 - 17:03

Hunter James

I didn't know ignorant radicalization was so hip.

July 29, 2016 - 17:05

Jayden Russell

That's similar to being so scared of sharks that you never go swimming at the beach despite there being few shark attacks yearly.

This is bait, right?

July 29, 2016 - 17:10

Nathan Lee

I didn't know we had our own CTR division

July 29, 2016 - 17:13

Isaiah Sanchez

See? It's really just all about the tentacle mouths. Hippos kill a shit-ton more people then the squids do, but because they don't have a bunch of limbs covered with mouths, people don't find them scary. I'm tired of people propagating the idea that these squids are all underwater human killing machines just because they happen to have limbs covered with hundreds of razor sharp mini mouths.

July 29, 2016 - 17:49

Noah Myers

everyone gets one, there's even CTRs over on 4/pol/ trying to covert them. Hilariously, it's not working

I think it'll be over next week. The general election starts now, so they want to get off on a good foot. It's not going to work though.

July 29, 2016 - 19:10

Noah Evans

So what has been your family's reaction to the election of Hillary? my family is planning on going Green until the day of the election. If the Greens don't get over 15% support in polls, they will vote for Trump.

July 29, 2016 - 19:11

Evan Barnes

We're voting green as well.

B████ ██████ is on Real Time with Bill Maher right now shilling for the party that stabbed him in the back.

Fuck that turncoat cuck. If we don't get the candidate we want in one party, we'll pick another. Trump is better than that scum Hillary winning. Jill Stein getting 15% would be a best case scenario.

July 29, 2016 - 19:13

Brandon King

Tell them vote Green if they're close to 5% as that's the number that gets them access to public funds next election. 15% is the number they need in polls to get into debates which is probably overly optimistic.

July 29, 2016 - 19:15

Chase Morgan

My parents have been voting Democrat her entire lives and will vote so this year. S█████ was never an option. They want her because she's a known variable and vanilla. Also their Union told them to vote for her, so they will.

I've talked to them about it but they honestly don't care. Which is their right, as much as I disagree with it.

July 29, 2016 - 19:21

Cameron Lee

KILL ALL HUMANS OVER 40 NOW!

July 29, 2016 - 19:23

Isaiah Foster

Also note that the 15% isn't election results like the 5%, it's 15% popularity in national polls.

July 29, 2016 - 19:25

Robert Miller

Yep, I said polls but I probably should have made it clearer.

July 29, 2016 - 19:28

Luke Collins

Jesus the shills are out in full force on that comments section.

July 29, 2016 - 19:30

Alexander Morales

we 3rd world now

July 29, 2016 - 19:32

Adam Long

I actually got my mom voting B████ in the primary, but she's going to vote Hill in the general. It doesn't bother me, because she still says she hates Hillary.

July 29, 2016 - 19:34

Thomas Hill

CANT WAKE UP

July 29, 2016 - 20:02

Grayson Ramirez

Anyone want to see footage of Stein and Sawant from Wednesday's Black Men for B████ rally?

I also have some pictures. Not sure if I should make a separate thread for all this

Also does 8ch allow mp4s? What's the file size limit?

July 29, 2016 - 20:29

Robert Evans

post them u nig

July 29, 2016 - 20:31

Ryder Gonzalez

Saw that shit too.

Is this supposed to be a subtle jab at Hillary? Because it honestly looks like something from a dystopian YA novel.

July 29, 2016 - 20:42

Henry Myers

yes
8MB

Also any chance you have footage from the rally that happened today? That's what I'm really interested in, the other's nice and appreciated but there's also plenty of it up on youtube.

July 29, 2016 - 20:42

Sebastian Cook

I didn't go down today, sorry

July 29, 2016 - 20:42

Josiah Sanchez

Its cool, like I said I appreciate anything you upload from youtube. Really I'm just a bit aggravated with Stein, you think she'd be able to have her shit together and make sure someone's recording something like that so she can upload it to youtube and share it on twitter later. I mean this is where the youth movement is and yet we don't even have our stuff together on social media as well as the libertarians.

July 29, 2016 - 20:47

Nicholas Allen

anything you upload from there*

July 29, 2016 - 20:47

Samuel Perry

In the mean time, while I try to compress the video, here's some pictures. The people holding the huge banner are from the Revolution Club AKA the Revolutionary Communist Party. The MC actually let them come up on stage and speak for a while.

July 29, 2016 - 21:00

Michael Murphy

...

July 29, 2016 - 21:01

Julian Evans

Pretty much. Mainly just modern day hippies. Everyone literally stared dancing near the end.

There was a few anarchists though.

July 29, 2016 - 21:06

Brayden Cooper

And then this faggot showed up

Why are right-wingers so low-test?

July 29, 2016 - 21:19

Jaxson Watson

The madmins just closed the subreddit

July 29, 2016 - 21:47

Camden Thomas

Here's the remaining signs I took pictures of

July 29, 2016 - 21:50

Nicholas Parker

what's with the christian signs?

July 29, 2016 - 21:56

Kayden Myers

Westboro Baptist Church I assume. There was also a guy carrying around one of those dead fetus signs too.

July 29, 2016 - 22:06

Levi Perez

...

July 29, 2016 - 22:09

Jayden Ramirez

0/10, fill your skull with lead

How's the popularity of veganism in Argentina? Is veganism viable there, or would it be even more difficult than it is here in the southern United States? From what I remember, Argentina is known as the "beef capital of the world" and even "vegetarianism" isn't well-established there, so I doubt that Argentina would be a better option than Scandinavia, Germany, or east Asia.

July 29, 2016 - 22:11

Elijah Parker

Goddamn B████ looks none too pleased

July 29, 2016 - 22:22

Jayden Wright

...

July 29, 2016 - 22:27

Grayson Sanchez

And here's the rest of the stuff you might find interesting

That's Clinton St. by the way

July 29, 2016 - 22:30

Jason Diaz

You're on the wrong board, user.

July 29, 2016 - 22:34

Austin Thomas

TOP KEK

July 29, 2016 - 22:38

Evan Rivera

Not really. Trump's trade policy is one of reasons to choose him over Hillary, and Holla Forums isn't necessarily for or against unrestricted borders.

July 29, 2016 - 22:44

Logan Martin

>youtube.com/watch?v=5Aitt044K40
does clinton still have something on him? jesus

July 29, 2016 - 22:48

Luke Carter

Also the same way if Romney won Holla Forums would have never gotten a Trump nomination, if Clinton wins we'll be waiting another 8 years and then we'll get an election cycle where dissatisfaction with the establishment candidate is markedly less than if Trump had just won due to splits caused by the DNC and S█████' bid is still in recent memory.

July 29, 2016 - 22:55

Julian Baker

was still*

July 29, 2016 - 22:56

Zachary Jackson

Which is just him trying to sell you something. If you're buying it, I have a bridge I'd like to sell you. Both of their records show they're liars. You're falling for the usual political bullshit pandering.

Trump & Hillary are both pieces of shit, and anyone voting for either is an uninformed voter.

July 29, 2016 - 23:04

Ryder Cox

A leftwing vote for trump is a spiteful accelerationist move, clinton losing would be the most humiliating thing not just for her but the either corrupt media apparatus that colludes with her .
Under a trump presidency, in which he will not be able to keep up his promises (and if he does it really is a Every jew that put that echo thing around their name on twitter should automatically be ignored and im actually kinda impressed) the alt right will lose thier momentum and become jaded.
Hillary losing would vindicate B████ and socialism, you can stand back and say "see, told you you should have voted for B████, she wasnt left wing enough"
So under a trump presidency the plan would be to rebuild the far progressive left into an actual thing battling against a trump incomptence and a hillary failure.

Under a Hillary presidency, the status quo, except also she is more war hungry.
More kick backs for wall street and lobbyist, will sign the tpp, lots of eye rolling pandering to idpol, the far left is somewhere in the wilderness, the far right still exists and is growing under a corrupt Hillary presidency

July 29, 2016 - 23:06

Justin Rodriguez

man that came out all mangled, and i accidentally copy and pasted a few thing wrong lel

July 29, 2016 - 23:07

Logan Rogers

You're correct that all we know about Trump in office is Trump at the microphone.

Trade however does appear to be one of the few areas where he has genuine political convictions and would be my best bet as the reason he's damaged his business to take over the GOP.

July 29, 2016 - 23:15

Chase Watson

That's what you get for copy pasting something from Holla Forums :^)

July 29, 2016 - 23:19

Jackson Morgan

Is that why he has a clothing line manufacturing in China? Come on now, get real.

July 29, 2016 - 23:23

Connor Campbell

We know plenty about Trump - the person. That's what matters. He's a con man, rips people off for a living, even blamed his freshly deceased business partners for his own failings. A real piece of shit blames people who just died for their own mistakes.

Lmao - that was done years ago, by his own shitty business practices. Do you just rely on people not being able to Google simple shit?

You're not fooling anyone here, user. We're not retards. Trump would directly benefit from the TPP. He makes "the best deals", and there's no better deal for business men than the TPP. "Shut that internet down" Trump is not one you should bank on for a genuine partner in freedom.

July 29, 2016 - 23:24

Alexander Martin

Why is correct the record even shilling here, hillary literally gives speeches to wall street people for money and wikileaks released hare evidence she stole the election.

UGHHHH BUT DONT VOTE FOR TRUMP CAUSE SHILLARYS DIFFFENT U GUISE

July 29, 2016 - 23:30

Landon Ramirez

...

July 29, 2016 - 23:31

Elijah Murphy

Stop shitposting. CTR shills for people to vote for Hillary, not equate her with Trump.

You're not fooling anyone, user. This isn't Holla Forums

July 29, 2016 - 23:33

Brandon Richardson

I really wonder what would have happened if Ralph Nader had ever attempted to run on the Democratic ticket.

July 29, 2016 - 23:43

Mason Jones

Why are idpolers so terrified of Trump? What will he do to lgbts minorities etc (besides le build wall meme)?

July 29, 2016 - 23:46

William Morales

Do they really think this behavior is a smart idea?

July 29, 2016 - 23:46

Carter Brown

no

July 29, 2016 - 23:47

Jaxson Nguyen

Hard to say. Remember that unlike Hillary/Barrack, Al/Bill were polling very strongly at the time.

Because he loudly refuses to be cowed by their bullying. PC is a paper tiger, anything revealing that fact is a lethal threat to their power.

July 29, 2016 - 23:59

Dylan Flores

Trump has actually been open minded to gay people than any other republican in recent times.

July 30, 2016 - 00:01

Juan Campbell

Because he's a boogeyman to keep people in line?

Is it not obvious?

July 30, 2016 - 00:03

Jack Howard

He would have been shut down the same way they shut down Kucinich. S█████'s success this election was due in very large part due to the material conditions of our current time. 8 years after the worst collapse of capitalism since the Great Depression we're in a jobless recovery while the crooks on Wall Street were rewarded for their greed instead of sent to jail.

July 30, 2016 - 00:09

Jackson Kelly

...

July 30, 2016 - 01:02

Angel Ramirez

No because the media, GOP and GOP donors did everything they could to keep him out.

Neolibs using his presidential run to misdirect from Hillary is opportunism.

July 30, 2016 - 01:25

Logan Bailey

What baloney! Hillary had 3 Million more votes, plus a thousand or so more delegates. That means she wins. Math matters. There was no fraud. S█████ just plain lost, and it is time for him and his minions to get over it. Stop pouting. Of course the DNC is going to favor the Real Dem., not one who is just using the party for his own gain. He has already gone back to being an Independent so he can run for Senator in Vermont. I think that should be voter fraud. I hope he doesn’t meddle in the DNC again. I think the B████ people are the ones who hacked the DNC and wrote the emails they had RECEIVED, not sent out. Bye bye B████.

July 30, 2016 - 03:03

Grayson Rivera

I love how they're all diverting the issue by narrowing it down to certain types of fraud. "Oh, I didn't see anybody force three million people to vote for Hillary!" Yeah the fucking hell you didn't, it's called intentionally sloppy touch detection, voter registration changes and polling location changes to increase the margin of mail-in votes. "CAUCUSES!! C A U C U S E S ! ! ! !", yeah and guess which system governs ~570 pledged delegates and which one governs 1000+ out of 4000+?

I realize that most of these people are fairly innocent and are just trying to rationalize their candidate winning, but it's still disgustingly dishonest because neutrals read this horse ass baloney crap too. One of them straight up Amerisplained to me about the Puerto Rican primary and ignored the cut voting places and said "well B████'s campaign stole a box of prison ballots!" when that was bullshit because only one official everyone hates ever claimed that and when the media asked about it and how it wasn't absent and there was no evidence it ever was he was like "oh uhhh they gave it back but they've been TAMPERED WITH which is why we're not going to take action and count them normally" because they'll believe anything they read to justify the Witch getting 60%+ of the vote in one of the most anti-establishment places in the union because Dey POCs Lubs Us.

Even Tumblr and DemocraticUnderground think Dailykos isn't left enough. Disgust.

July 30, 2016 - 03:17

Robert Collins

"One candidate was a life-long Democrat to busts her ass to raise funds and support races all over the country. The other only signed a letter saying he intended to become a Democrat so he could get on the ballot in New Hampshire and freely admitted he was using the party for its name and infrastructure. No kidding the DNC would prefer one over the other. All things considering, they bent over backwards to be fair to B████…"

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

July 30, 2016 - 03:20

Austin Thompson

meant to greentext

July 30, 2016 - 03:20

Landon Hernandez

Help me, Wikileaks. You're my only hope.

July 30, 2016 - 03:30

Gavin Gutierrez

Reminder that this woman gave a major speech at the DNC.

July 30, 2016 - 03:32

Liam Richardson

twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/759222916387069952

She is in a way.

July 30, 2016 - 03:38

Levi Evans

Trump may have found a way to be 10x worse for Puerto Rico than Hillary, but I hope he gives her hell in the debates over this kind of stuff.
We Puerto Ricans basically have a rain fetish. It calms me and puts me at peace with the world's bullshit. That and a good bowl of weed.

July 30, 2016 - 03:45

Ethan Clark

THIS FUCKING THREAD MAKES ME SO FUCKING MAD. WARNING, IT WILL MAKE YOU MAD AS FUCK, TOO:

twitter.com/docrocktex26/status/758870687863803904

FUCK HILLARY SHILLS

THEY SHOULD ALL BE SHOT

July 30, 2016 - 07:08

Dominic Rodriguez

test

July 30, 2016 - 07:09

Brody Green

...

July 30, 2016 - 07:26

Gavin Mitchell

Trump is the beginning of proving that candidates should be memes first and politicians second.

July 30, 2016 - 07:34

Ryan Nelson

lol

July 30, 2016 - 08:20

Levi Martin

literally someone whose every word should be ignored

July 30, 2016 - 08:21

Sebastian Lee

>WikiLeaks [email protected]/* */ 1h1 hour ago

YOU COULD HAVE FOOLED ME, WIKILEAKS

July 30, 2016 - 08:25

William Walker

This isn't new.
twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/653856168402681856?lang=en

July 30, 2016 - 09:55

David Bennett

The funny thing is that liberals want to keep repeating shit like that and then wonder why us B████Bros aren't supporting them.

It's really some weird type of Liberal Exceptionalism. They want to take potshots at everyone without consequences.

July 30, 2016 - 13:17

Joseph Lewis

...

July 30, 2016 - 13:33

Josiah Myers

the collar makes her look like Oswald Moseley

July 30, 2016 - 13:39

Anthony Rogers

Who are you voting for from the following?
Who do you hate the most from the following?

Trump
Johnson
Clinton
Stein

July 30, 2016 - 13:49

Henry Scott

Good, might be worth voting for to crack 5%, but can't do anything else upballot.
Wildcard, best chance to break the 2-party system, but also might turn out to be perfect porky storm to strengthen it yet retain support of delusional "rebellious" classcucks.
Mediocre, representative of everything currently wrong with America, but with added PC poison.
Ultraclasscuck ideologue, popular enough to maybe be dangerous, but hopefully still too silly in popular perception to be more than a spoiler.

July 30, 2016 - 14:04

Parker Thomas

Good it's white men who historically commit the most politically driven violence, I hope this part of the internet is still up when push comes to shove, because if it gets bad I'll be rooting these little fuckers out too.

July 30, 2016 - 14:12

Ryder Jones

That's what most people in the US believe, that's what most people in the rally believed too, i bet.

Meh, killing the "Conservative" nutjobbery in the Right-wing should be a top priority right now, also Foreign policy.
I could see myself voting for him were I a burger.
Once spooks are out of public view people might actually vote on their class interest, or hang Porky.

July 30, 2016 - 14:21

Brayden Sanders

My preferential vote in order descending
Jill Stein
Deez Nutz
Vermin Supreme
Mickey Mouse
Hairy Johnson
Darth Vader
Lint from my Nutsack
be an hero
Shrillery Cunton
Cuckold Chump

July 30, 2016 - 14:30

Alexander Nelson

literally god

July 30, 2016 - 14:31

Ryan Wilson

I liked the part where she campaigned for Barry Goldwater.

July 30, 2016 - 15:03

Jason Gonzalez

We're working to vote these fuckers out of the party now but it takes time. The wasn't the only issue in Wyoming though. Those fuckers also went with an improper delegate selection procedure that forced a 7:7 split when it should have been 8:6 (Sanders won our state at 56%). We also passed a "voluntary" resolution at the state convention that the unpledged delegates should split their votes 2:2 in accordance with the voters. Naturally, they ignored it and all four went for Hillary.

July 30, 2016 - 15:06

Sebastian Gray

Voting for Stein, hate Clinton the most.

July 30, 2016 - 15:08

Sebastian Bennett

...

July 30, 2016 - 15:11

Oliver Richardson

I think by "punished" he meant "convicted" and publicly executed by peoples' militia

July 30, 2016 - 15:47

Cameron Gonzalez

this

July 30, 2016 - 16:00

Carson Ward

My vote preference
Stein-help get 5% and Ksama Sawant endorsed her which is enough for me

Trump-he's a porky but unlike most here I do think he'll stop TPP
Johnson-even more of a porky than Trump is
Clinton-is basically a vote for war with Syria and TPP. Also ensures that we have no good candidate in 2020 either.

July 30, 2016 - 16:04

Tyler Hughes

I'm so happy this democractic convention is over. I haven't been this depressed since my first girlfriend broke up with me.

July 30, 2016 - 16:32

Juan Kelly

...

July 30, 2016 - 17:14

Ayden Gutierrez

cpusa.org/article/taking-a-sober-look-at-the-2016-election/

You would think the FBI would stop raping it once it became a corpse but no.

July 30, 2016 - 17:55

Parker Edwards

I bet a small loan to Trump that Propane Jane is white as the fucking driven snow. Considering how much she loves to throw her femininity in everyone's face I can't believe she wouldn't tout being black as well.

And yet there she is insulting Nina Turner, a black women. But that's not being a "Bro" because… well who knows.

July 30, 2016 - 18:02

Dominic Young

archive.is/1ekkc
Clinton team admits that they have no evidence the Russians hacked them, still claim that the Russians were responsible.

July 30, 2016 - 18:04

Christopher Parker

Holla Forums can we please meme magic Gary Johnson into the debates?

I want maximum entertainment this fall. Would be even better if Congress ends up having to decided since no one could gather enough electoral votes.

July 30, 2016 - 18:06

Kevin Sanchez

Holla Forums would never like Johnson, he doesn't appeal to their 7th grade sense of humor. Honestly I think that if Ron Paul ran nowdays even he wouldn't get Holla Forumss attention like it used to. A lot of the "for the lulz" Holla Forums has moved on and we pretty much have edgy teens who grew up during Obama establishment.

July 30, 2016 - 18:21

Oliver Campbell

If Ron Paul was running against Trump he might get called a low energy cuck, but other than that I think you're wrong about that. Paul is very memeable, Johnson is not.

July 30, 2016 - 18:30

Kevin Ward

johnson is a corporate shill

July 30, 2016 - 18:37

Carson Fisher

...

July 30, 2016 - 19:07

Henry Gray

To be fair the Koch brothers are really the only billionaire backers for lolbertarian shit - almost every other billionaire in American politics backs your standard Democrat causes

July 30, 2016 - 19:19

Adam Brooks

(cont). I don't think they'd get half the shit they do about MONEY IN POLITICS/OLIGARCHS ROONIN 'ARE DEMOCRACY if they went full Zuckerberg/Gates/Buffett

July 30, 2016 - 19:20

Christian Campbell

Sham Group Election Justice USA Set Up By Dead-Enders To Smear Hillary
archive.is/QiCRe

July 30, 2016 - 19:21

Juan Campbell

...

July 30, 2016 - 19:24

Chase Lee

Compare that to
archive.is/yyAiq

I guess they just let fucking anybody contribute to DailyKOS.

July 30, 2016 - 19:25

Colton Stewart

Pretty good point. We need to tell people that guys like Soros are basically liberalTM Kochs.

July 30, 2016 - 19:32

Mason Clark

yea i believe it was in a community college called el centro

July 30, 2016 - 20:11

Michael Brown

...

July 30, 2016 - 20:13

Nicholas Scott

...

July 30, 2016 - 20:13

Nicholas Brooks

...

July 30, 2016 - 20:14

Carson Hill

...

July 30, 2016 - 20:20

Landon Wilson

There is no such thing as "last hope". We never had "hope". Only historical inevtability. And even if we'll never win, we don't fight to win. We fight cause there is no other way, but to fight.

July 30, 2016 - 20:27

Lucas Torres

Fuggin saved. Is that OC?

Well spoken comrade.

July 30, 2016 - 20:31

Joshua Young

Well.. I made it, but I made it like a week ago for JSDMS.

July 30, 2016 - 20:46

Parker Richardson

whoops

July 30, 2016 - 20:47

Josiah Morales

...

July 30, 2016 - 20:52

Thomas Edwards

youtube.com/watch?v=qfj5s5r7_14

I just don't understand how anyone on the left can bring themselves to vote for Hillary.

Like Trump is loathsome but he doesn't have even a 1/64 of the skeletons in the closet.

My vote is between Johnson and Stein…

July 30, 2016 - 21:58

Levi Martinez

Stein my man. Stein.

July 30, 2016 - 22:25

Brandon James

Koch brothers are also giving Clinton money this election.

July 30, 2016 - 23:02

Noah Evans

Nothing to do with any of that, I just don't like being dragged underwater until by ears bleed- that's all.

July 30, 2016 - 23:53

Nolan Reed

ded thred

July 31, 2016 - 07:40

Caleb Rivera

...

July 31, 2016 - 08:21

Michael Reyes

Stein is who I'm voting for.

July 31, 2016 - 12:08

Juan Carter

...

July 31, 2016 - 12:08

Easton Collins

Extremely depressing.

July 31, 2016 - 12:20

Connor Johnson

I guess this is before he got roughed up by Clinton goons and got that gash on his cheek

July 31, 2016 - 13:09

Adam Adams

Just like my heart.

July 31, 2016 - 22:03

Isaiah Baker

Looks like James O'Queef is back up to his same old tricks again:

youtube.com/watch?v=EmdKB-x-Zrc

July 31, 2016 - 22:29

Austin Peterson

Pls.

I'm disappointed he didn't get his ass kicked. And I've never heard of this kid.

July 31, 2016 - 23:03

Landon Richardson

wsws.org/en/articles/2016/08/01/pers-a01.html

1 August 2016

As the Times put it last week, “The fall of eastern Aleppo to government forces would be a major turning point in the war and would solidify Russia’s place as the most prominent foreign power involved in the conflict.”

August 1, 2016 - 01:04

Wyatt Watson

Andre Damon

August 1, 2016 - 01:05

Grayson Wright

Nina Turner weighing offer to join Green Party ticket as vice presidential candidate

Source: cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2016/07/nina_turner_weighing_offer_to.html
Archive: archive.is/nUERz

#RunNinaRun is currently trending on Twitter, as well, if any of you want to participate.

August 1, 2016 - 02:55

Gavin Torres

Yeah but the only way for the Green party to win, is to split the right wing as well.

August 1, 2016 - 03:20

Nathan Carter

Wow that would be big but she better act fast here. The presidential nominating convention starts Thursday.

August 1, 2016 - 03:22

Gabriel James

I really hope she accepts it. For no other reason than to stick it to Hillary.

August 1, 2016 - 07:44

Caleb Brown

That would make a great ticket, and give more exposure to the party.

August 1, 2016 - 07:46

Dylan Gomez

thecanary.co/2016/07/29/paris-strikes-astonishing-partnership-secret-isis-sponsor-ties-hillary-clinton/

August 1, 2016 - 08:10

Michael Hall

She deserves more than the VP position of the Green Party. Let's face it, Jill Stein is shit at politics compared to Nina Turner.

August 1, 2016 - 08:21

Liam Rodriguez

youtube.com/watch?v=BUCnjlTfXDw

August 1, 2016 - 08:35

Joshua Allen

ugh

how bad is it?

August 1, 2016 - 08:41

Christopher Russell

shitting on trump, sucking the DNC's dick, not even mentioning B████ or the emails

August 1, 2016 - 08:43

Evan Green

Anyone actually know how a communist party manage to become so cancerous?
Where can i read about it?

August 1, 2016 - 11:45

Luis Flores

*managed

August 1, 2016 - 11:46

Ian Cook

What's the general opinion of Chomsky's idea that if you're in a strong Dem or Rep state, there's no harm in voting for a third party, but swing state voters need to suck it up and vote for Hillary so we don't get another Nader situation.

August 1, 2016 - 12:43

Daniel Rivera

There's an understandable logic to it. If the Dems lose, they'll spend the next four years blaming Green voters/"Bernie Bros." Anyone who thinks they'll change their Clintonite ways is delusional.

I don't know that I personally agree with it, but I definitely am against people voting for Trump.

August 1, 2016 - 12:50

Gavin Sullivan

who cares at this point

August 1, 2016 - 12:51

Justin Gutierrez

I honestly think the only chance we have of an actual revolutions is letting a madman like Trump take power and having him ruin the economy enough so the white middle class, the people who actually hold the power, will have to wake up and do something.

Red October happened because the czar got so bad and the kulaks had it so bad that a revolution could actually gain a foothold.

August 1, 2016 - 12:52

Charles Campbell

if the Dems win, it gives them the confidence to totally mock and disregard actual progressives in their party because they know no matter what, they will fall in line.
Trump is our way of punishing the party that was rigged against B████.

August 1, 2016 - 12:54

Xavier Allen

And then they'll leave and join the Green Party

August 1, 2016 - 12:54

Brody Lee

We all know how this goes:

Or we wreck the Democrats so hard and make them non-viable without us.

August 1, 2016 - 13:01

Angel Thompson

I agree with this. We're at a point that there really isn't any good options.

If you vote for Hillary to keep Trump out she'll enact more neoliberalism and imperialist wars. Leading to untold suffering here and abroad.

Vote for Trump and he'll probably do something super stupid like nuke ISIS. Or start rounding up anyone that's not white christian or straight until he figures out what's going on.

That would cause capital to flee this country and crash our economy.

I'm voting for Stein so the Dems aren't emboldened to pull this carp later and her candidacy can lay the groundwork for anti capitalist movements in the future

August 1, 2016 - 13:02

Jack Edwards

...

August 1, 2016 - 13:07

Xavier Torres

That's what I'm doing

August 1, 2016 - 13:09

Nathaniel Myers

¿Por que no los dos?

They love winning because power and they love the status quo because that's what their corporate sponsors want.

August 1, 2016 - 13:09

Aiden Phillips

heaven forbid a party have to change its platform if it wants to gain the support of people who don't agree with it

August 1, 2016 - 13:11

Bentley Edwards

youtube.com/watch?v=uBVuLGw9ank
Romney The magic Underwear man might endorse libertarian party candidate Gary Johnson.
Have we finally entered the golden age of lolbertarianism?

August 1, 2016 - 13:45

Dylan Clark

Yeah, I mean, what difference does it make?

August 1, 2016 - 13:53

Landon Davis

...

August 1, 2016 - 13:57

Brayden Lee

Decades of concentrated COINTELPRO

August 1, 2016 - 15:00

Ayden Long

projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

What the fuck happened? He was a 49% chance just two days ago. What the fuck did he do this time.

Goddammit, Donald. You're going to get Hillary elected!

August 1, 2016 - 16:08

Carson Allen

Don't worry. Wikileaks is revealing Clinton's connections to ISIS soon. Trump will blow her the fuck out with that.

August 1, 2016 - 16:11

Tyler Russell

Hmm.. this could be one of the things that would destroy her political career or Presidential bid. I was wondering what it would take & that seems to be about right.

[rigging intensifies]

August 1, 2016 - 16:26

Angel Thompson

Assange has been talking up these emails for weeks now, and he's posted that gay UN hearing that no one gives a single fuck about five times.

I think he's angling for a deal.

August 1, 2016 - 16:31

Alexander Russell

Convention bump for Hilary and Trump decided that attacking a father of a dead soldier was a good idea.

August 1, 2016 - 16:37

Andrew Adams

He's a fool. If you live in a swing state voting third party is the most important thing. The Democrats need to be shown that there is a price to pay for cheating.

August 1, 2016 - 17:00

Josiah Moore

All according to plan.

August 1, 2016 - 17:02

Dominic Phillips

Honestly.

Shit or get off the pot, Assange!

August 1, 2016 - 17:05

Isaiah Sanchez

jesus fucking christ this annoys the shit out of me

August 1, 2016 - 17:25

James Lopez

he won't do it later than the first debate (sept 26th), so anytime between now and then he'll release it

August 1, 2016 - 17:27

Joseph Lewis

I hate that Shillary will win, but at least the Holla Forums tears are going to be delicious for the next three months

August 1, 2016 - 17:29

Caleb Hernandez

I hate Hillary, but a Trump presidency would give the Clintonites all the excuse they need to shit on the left even more than they already are.

Ideally one or more third parties will make sizable performances in the election.

August 1, 2016 - 17:33

Easton Richardson

The democrats simply don't have the base they used to in the rust belt, and this alone gives Trump a 50% shot at the White House. Four states (WI, MI, OH, PA) will more or less decide the election.

Florida ain't going blue either, given how popular Rick Scott is (at least popular enough to prevent people turning out against him).

August 1, 2016 - 17:33

Jeremiah Hughes

I think I saw somewhere that CTR's funding was increased by a factor of six (or six times or something like that)

I hope you like shilling because it's fucking here to stay

August 1, 2016 - 17:36

Carter Scott

Everything I don't like is a porky conspiracy against anoter porky, Donald Trump

August 1, 2016 - 17:42

Easton Foster

You fucking idiot. They're not the ones losing out. There will always be another reactionary candidate. Hillary's election will suck out the oxygen out of revolutionary fervor. We cannot let her win.

August 1, 2016 - 17:44

Dylan Cook

Let's elect a porky to defeat a porky, so the porkies will be defeated.

Logic.

August 1, 2016 - 17:46

Gabriel Nguyen

Trump, despite being porky personified, is a monkey with a lighter. The government has a gas leak.

August 1, 2016 - 17:47

Austin Scott

That's not a good thing, actually.

August 1, 2016 - 17:52

Tyler Cruz

Let's elect an incompetent porky over a competent one so that the discontent of the masses focuses on the man that represents capitalism in its most extremes, bared for all to see.

August 1, 2016 - 17:53

Ian James

That must solve all of our problems. Just look at Bush. He got us Obama.

August 1, 2016 - 17:53

Colton Wilson

If Hilary wins, then the Democrats will spend the next 8 years being the Establishment punching bag for a refreshed populist GOP. As she will be queen of the party, any and all attempts to reform it would be a nonstarter as she will oppose it all. Likewise, given that she would do nothing to stop the erosion of the middle class, we'd have a GOP Supermajority by the 2020 census giving us a Teafaggot government for at least an entire decade.

The larger problem though is that, denied all opportunities for reform, most leftists will just give up and walk away. As much as we all want to see the Green Party succeed, it is much more likely that Hilary would totally de-legitimatize the entire left and de-energize it. Young people don't join advocacy groups led by their mom. The 90s era neoliberalism only sells to a small and shrinking amount of boomers.

August 1, 2016 - 17:54

Adrian Young

You left your shitposting flag on.

August 1, 2016 - 17:55

Oliver Howard

The solution to our problems is to elect a porky to protect us

August 1, 2016 - 17:55

Asher Butler

You left your own off.

August 1, 2016 - 17:55

Nolan Sullivan

It is a good thing. Destruction of the bourgeoisie is an art, let us paint. Trump made himself available as a tool, as unusual as it is.

August 1, 2016 - 17:56

Carson Edwards

the argument is that if a super reactionary like Trump gets in, it will make people go full leftist and actually support someone like Sand€rs next time, sort of like how Romney failed and it brought Trump to the front stage. With b€rniecrats also positioning themselves into office this year, after 4 years of Trump, there might be a serious chance to pull the nation harder left than even Sand€rs could.

August 1, 2016 - 17:56

Juan Jackson

This argument is why nobody takes leftypol seriously.

August 1, 2016 - 17:58

Ryder Miller

Trump is a moron and would break the GOP legislative majority by 2020. More importantly Hilary's loss would signal a house cleaning by the Dem party, which would go back to being a workers' party. Overall this is a net gain for reformists, progressives and workers by 2024 especially compared to Hilary.

Again, see the 2020 census. That's what the focus should be on, not the current Presidential election. The GOP need to be taken down by then with a reformed Democratic party, or else hopes of fixing the system gets pushed back to 2030 *at the earliest*.

August 1, 2016 - 17:58

Cameron Roberts

He's going to give you nothing you want and another bougie democrat.

Wow. You gamed the system!

August 1, 2016 - 17:58

Levi Wood

So you want another bougie democrat by electing a bougie republican

How do you post here without being nauseated with yourself?

August 1, 2016 - 17:59

Brandon Nelson

It's true though. See the Tea Party: in the course of six years they took over the GOP and made it into something new. They are now set to obtain a supermajority, and are already successful in promoting their cancer in formerly blue states.

They are the GOP now (except for Trump), we can do the same with the Democrats. But first, we have to purge the collaborators. Specifically, Hilary.

August 1, 2016 - 18:01

Wyatt Gray

Clinton will win them mainly due to how Johnson is edging Trump's electorate with polling at 10%. Plus if Johnson can make it to 15% in the debates, he'll easily crush Trump on Conservativism. A Romney and McCain endorsement would be Huge.

August 1, 2016 - 18:02

Evan Stewart

The Tea Party doesn't exist to not be manipulated. Curiously, like you are also being right now.

August 1, 2016 - 18:03

Camden Davis

yes, that is exactly my strategy. If someone is willing to commit suicide, hand them a gun and let them pull the trigger themselves.

The Democrats need to be taught a lesson: neoliberalism doesn't win elections anymore. Two years of a GOP government is worth it as in the end we come out stronger than before. And 2 years is a much shorter time than 20.

August 1, 2016 - 18:03

Kayden Powell

Did everyone just forget Bush's terms?

Look, I know you all hate Hillary and her goons, so do I, but all Trump'll do is let the Democrats pretend again that they can fix things and people will abandon any other movement because they just want someone who isn't Trump.

Besides, a Clinton presidency means that it will be much easier to send her to the people's razor.

August 1, 2016 - 18:03

Blake Bennett

And Trump will get us an active leftist movement.

August 1, 2016 - 18:05

Wyatt Kelly

You are so naive.

If we elect Bush again we'll get an Obama

August 1, 2016 - 18:05

Logan Thomas

No he won't.

August 1, 2016 - 18:05

Nathaniel Jenkins

The first goal of the Third Way is crushing any left opposition; winning elections is a secondary goal.

August 1, 2016 - 18:06

Zachary Barnes

Johnson won't happen because of the open SCOTUS seat. Rank-and-file Republicans aren't stupid and won't deliberately throw an election. Also Romney and McCain clearly are not relevant to their bases anymore, as they couldn't stop Trump from winning their party's nomination.

August 1, 2016 - 18:07

Bentley Lee

...

August 1, 2016 - 18:07

Jayden Watson

I want discontent. He will give us that.

August 1, 2016 - 18:08

Asher Baker

then the Democrats will loose again too, and will continue loosing until they realize neoliberalism doesn't sell

August 1, 2016 - 18:08

Carson Nelson

That won't accomplish anything but people willing to vote for another form of Clinton.

You can't be this naive?

August 1, 2016 - 18:09

Xavier Roberts

Brilliant strategy. Bold.

August 1, 2016 - 18:09

Adam Davis

present an alternative that isn't naive, so far all you've done is shoot down everything. And don't say revolution

August 1, 2016 - 18:11

Ryan Nelson

The point is not to let them do this and demand socialism.

You and I both know that isn't going to happen because Hillary being elected will delegitimize any anti-capitalist sentiment.

August 1, 2016 - 18:11

Dominic Jenkins

...

August 1, 2016 - 18:11

Christian Jones

He will, certainly more than Shrillary will.

August 1, 2016 - 18:11

Ryan Perry

So let's elect her and get it over with, amirite?

So what is your plan?

August 1, 2016 - 18:12

Elijah Wood

Not being naive

Complete the image at the very least.

No he won't.

August 1, 2016 - 18:12

Cooper Brown

Not being naive enough to trust gaming politicians who are always one hundred steps ahead of you.

August 1, 2016 - 18:13

Owen Flores

...

August 1, 2016 - 18:14

Nathan Bell

He won't.

August 1, 2016 - 18:16

Adrian Phillips

got a better one? The party will do with what works. We'll show them that the working class wants to be liberated. Or they can continue being retarded and loose election after election. This would also make an opening for the Green Party much easier.

August 1, 2016 - 18:16

Cameron Nelson

No it wouldn't. People fucking despise Hillary. And why would it? She's practically come out as right-wing and pro-capitalist as her husband.

August 1, 2016 - 18:17

Jaxson Adams

they're just smart enough to walk out to the polls every year and vote for whoever the NRA endorses.

August 1, 2016 - 18:17

Jayden Johnson

...

August 1, 2016 - 18:19

Jack Anderson

But she doesn't openly show what she is. She's also smarter than Trump.

Because normalfags might think muh womyn president means progress, or that shit like ACA is socialism, or some other stupid shit, all while working to expand the surveillance apparatus, the infringement on civil rights, and the expansion of global capitalist policies, and the people will love her for it.

Not to the public at large, and not like Trump.

August 1, 2016 - 18:20

David Evans

That's not a plan. You're just saiying

Which we don't, but what course of action would you suggest, as in actually doing something.

August 1, 2016 - 18:22

Tyler Lewis

It's time to take a break from posting.

August 1, 2016 - 18:23

Samuel Young

The weird proto-fascist milieu behind Trump can't afford to be emboldened with any kind of success. And a Trump presidency could very well see the rest of America rallying around the Dems as the foremost alternative to another 4 years of Trump. Another neoliberal status quo Dem presidency gives the left an equal opportunity to capitalize on resentment just like the right. And for the record, I don't think Trump is going to fuck much of anything up as president, not if the deal he offered Kasich is anything to go by.

August 1, 2016 - 18:23

Nolan Hall

Voting for Donald Trump is not action

August 1, 2016 - 18:24

Jaxon Smith

I actually came in this with the hope that maybe you wouldn't live up to your shitposting flag

August 1, 2016 - 18:27

Gavin Cooper

That is the starting phase in the master plan, and by definition it is doing something. I don't mean something in the

manner. I mean it in a literal sense, as in something that requires me to go out and generally change any part of the known universe in order to further a plan. What are you going to do this election? Vote for Shrillary?

August 1, 2016 - 18:27

Tyler Peterson

"master plan"

August 1, 2016 - 18:30

Ryder James

No, it doesn't. We know it doesn't, as evidence by the rise of the right all over the world.

August 1, 2016 - 18:30

Levi Green

If you take that flag off, will you die?

August 1, 2016 - 18:30

Eli Smith

She's already promised to get little to anything done as President, and if the DNC is anything to go by she isn't going to be courting B████ supporters with anything other than threats and insults.

Maybe some do, but a lot of people don't think that's enough to support Clinton

August 1, 2016 - 18:31

Sebastian Martin

If you take off focusing on my flag off will you die

August 1, 2016 - 18:31

Eli Cooper

...

August 1, 2016 - 18:32

Carter Mitchell

So this was the first sitting president to visit Cuba in decades?

August 1, 2016 - 18:32

Kevin Brooks

And yet they've fallen in lock-step behind her.

Some? I would say most, because that seemed to be one of her main arguments while campaigning.

August 1, 2016 - 18:32

Alexander Ward

Did you see the DNC? Now you're just being willfully ignorant.

August 1, 2016 - 18:33

Justin Gomez

I've seen the fucking polling numbers. Hard-line socialists or even just bernfag supporters are a minority.

August 1, 2016 - 18:34

Liam Perry

No, it's just going to cement neo-liberalism and idpol even further, as a Hillary victory will be viewed as some sort of mandate to continue the "pander to feminists and minorities with a few gibs while we sell out big time to Big Corpro"

>Well, if the plebs didn't want more free trade, more Third World serfs, and more bailouts for Wall Street they would've voted Drumpf. QED

August 1, 2016 - 18:35

Julian Lee

Not only that, but the fucking right will keep harping on about how Hillary is a socialist and a communist, and they'll decide that we need more capitalism, not less.

August 1, 2016 - 18:36

Jose Bennett

...

August 1, 2016 - 18:40

Ethan Russell

No. He's got money invested with them. He's lying about getting tough on China.

Not only that, but the US is already at war with China, at least the Chinese seem to think so. It's just more low-key. Expect it to be proxy war.

August 1, 2016 - 18:42

Lincoln Lee

Pay attention to this. This is what's in store in a Hillary presidency. She Red Baited S█████ during debates and she may very well start up a third wave of Red Scare in office.

August 1, 2016 - 18:46

James Richardson

In the last election Libertarians got about 1%
The Greens didn't even get 0.5%

Right now Johnson appears to be hovering around at least 5%, with Stein fluctuating heavily but let's say about 3%

If you're expecting some sort of flash exodus you'll be waiting for a long time.

August 1, 2016 - 18:46

Ian Hall

So the alternative is to give them the Presidency and possibly senate now? in this term? Are you going to fucking tell me that we need a successful Trump campaign? For what fucking reason? Do you want a Republican party that's built around Trumpism? Because a Trump victory would very much encourage that. A republican party built around Trump would be handing the entire organization of the party(grass-roots organizers all the way up to national media outlets) to a brand spanking new flavor of populist reactionaries that tastes just a hint like Nazism. Dems will be flocked to in an almost hysterical fashion by the rest of America and the progressives will be castigated as Nadering B████Bros and will be forced to get in line.

August 1, 2016 - 18:47

Isaiah Foster

Never forget it's all about debt.

August 1, 2016 - 18:49

Jaxson Russell

Rank and file republicans did the same thing when Ross Perot announced his candidacy against George Sr. Johnson and the lelberts will be the beginning of the end for the Republican party.

August 1, 2016 - 18:50

Anthony Howard

twitter.com/ppppolls/status/759579980925927424

Johnson and Stein are polling 1% above and 3% below a dead ape respectively.

August 1, 2016 - 18:54

Luke Ross

Actually Perot didn't have any impact in 92, he drew from both parties and the overall effect was negligible.

August 1, 2016 - 18:55

David Mitchell

Sure. The people need to suffer to see the truth.

Or we fill the vacuum before they do, just like the Tea Party did to the Republicans. That's why Trump exists, never forget that. Discontent is the greatest way to unite people. We must be there to offer socialism and tell them that the reason they lost to Trump was because of the "new left" bullshit espoused by Hillary. This is what Republicans believed about Romney. Make the Democratic establishment the ones that have to own up to losing to Trump and offer them socialism.

August 1, 2016 - 18:56

Brody Allen

Votes out for Harambe.

August 1, 2016 - 18:59

Austin Garcia

Yes I'm sure all those Clintonite operatives in the Democratic Party will be happy to abandon the New Democrat ideology.

August 1, 2016 - 18:59

Dylan Gutierrez

Who are you voting for and why? Please vote here. I'm trying to understand you people

strawpoll.me/10892750

August 1, 2016 - 19:01

Nicholas Price

...

August 1, 2016 - 19:01

Samuel Sanders

...

August 1, 2016 - 19:02

Joseph Rodriguez

Nobody said the road to revolution was easy, m8.

August 1, 2016 - 19:02

Ryan Fisher

People are already suffering, dickhead. Accelerationism is a disgusting ideology. "The masses don't accept my truth, therefore they must be punished until they see the light". When has that ever fucking worked?

August 1, 2016 - 19:03

Joshua Jackson

I'm voting Trump because he's the only one who can improve the current system. We need to kick out all the subhumans first and foremost before we can do anything else

August 1, 2016 - 19:03

Brody Butler

The democratic party is not a vehicle for revolution, and it is absurd that this has to be pointed out.

August 1, 2016 - 19:04

Kayden Harris

Guys. I wanted to vote Stein, but she thinks wifi is bad for our brains… It was a mistake to hope that a MD might be reasonable.

August 1, 2016 - 19:05

Robert Ward

Trump obviously.

Why are you not voting? How can you be this politically apathetic?

August 1, 2016 - 19:06

Luis Evans

Vote Gloria La Riva.

In most countries, Greens are the dumbest fuckers around and do not deserve to be rewarded with a protest vote..

August 1, 2016 - 19:09

Carson Barnes

Great. When do you leave?

August 1, 2016 - 19:10

Christian Allen

Politics does not begin and end at the ballot box. That is a liberal delusion.

August 1, 2016 - 19:11

Brody Ward

...

August 1, 2016 - 19:11

Easton Morales

And Hillary will throw them a bone while she continues the destruction of our world through capitalism. Then you'll bitch and moan that we have to keep the status quo or things could be worse. How could they get any worse, friend? Hillary is as bad as it gets. We get nothing from her election, not even discontent.

August 1, 2016 - 19:11

Julian Mitchell

Citation needed

August 1, 2016 - 19:12

Luke Miller

No, but it has the infrastructure on which we can build one. The party is the people in it. Kick out those people and fill it with our own. Only then do we turn it into a proper tool. The party is a tool. We must replace the laborer.

Then why are you advocating voting for them again and again? When will you stop?

August 1, 2016 - 19:13

Chase Nelson

I'm a very anti-capitalistic Not Socialist. I'm only Pro-Trump because of his anti-subhuman immigration policies and his anti-outsourcing policies and his anti-islam policies. I probably belong here more than you

August 1, 2016 - 19:13

Owen Kelly

Stein picks her VP: Human Rights activist Ajamu Baraka
jill2016.com/jill_stein_selects_ajamu_baraka_as_vp
counterpunch.org/2016/08/01/jill-stein-picks-long-time-counterpuncher-ajamu-baraka-as-her-vp-running-mate/

August 1, 2016 - 19:14

Ryan Perez

nadional socialist*

August 1, 2016 - 19:14

Luke Robinson

Yes discontent never happens under Democrats. Thank God Bush has been president for the past 8 years otherwise stuff like OWS and S█████' popularity never would have happened.

August 1, 2016 - 19:15

Jayden Foster

Not the kind that seeks to discard the entire system of capitalism.

Oh, you mean Ketchup and xir friends?

Oh, you mean the social democrat that doesn't seek to overthrow the system of capitalism? You mean the old cuck who decided to never call Shrillary out too bad during the debates? The useless bastard that then decided to endorse the bitch and tell everyone that she really believes in the shit she says? That guy?

No. These are all half-meassures that quickly get rolled back. Capitalism must be eliminated, and the way to do that it through massive discontent.

Revolutions happen when people have something and lose it all overnight. The American people must suffer to see the truth. Man cannot remake himself without pain.

My drill sergeant used to make us say something as we fell into formation: "Through the pain, we will learn."

Indeed, that is what the American people need right now. The reality of the system must manifest itself in the most grotesque manner possible. Trump is the embodiment of that.

August 1, 2016 - 19:20

Nicholas Collins

I'm sure you do.

August 1, 2016 - 19:22

Lucas Rodriguez

Shame no turner

August 1, 2016 - 19:23

Asher Price

And the rise of a pseudo fascistic strong man will definitely bring about resentment against capitalism because…?

August 1, 2016 - 19:23

Camden Ward

Because he represents everything wrong with the system. He's a rich kid that grew up to be a rich man that feels entitled to everything and is a narcissist of massive proportions.

The people must feel pain and have that pain directed into anger at the system. We are the ones to do that.

August 1, 2016 - 19:26

Lincoln Perez

So George Bush 2.0

August 1, 2016 - 19:27

Asher Miller

Read a book, nigga.

August 1, 2016 - 19:27

Sebastian Mitchell

Have fun transforming a political party comprised of a coalition of strong bougie and weak labour aristorcratic interest groups into a behicle for revolution. That's a bold, nigh incomprehensible strategy, so good luck!

… I'm not?

August 1, 2016 - 19:29

Easton Gonzalez

Just about the most facile "leftist" theory of politics I've ever seen. Congats. I feel dumber for having humoured you.

August 1, 2016 - 19:33

Noah Mitchell

Nowhere near. Old dubya is subdued when compared to Trump. Maybe you could claim it's Turbo dubya at the very least, but I think Trump is beyond that.

August 1, 2016 - 19:34

Michael Ross

...

August 1, 2016 - 19:34

William Harris

No one said it was easy.

Then what exact COA are you advocating for?

August 1, 2016 - 19:35

Chase Robinson

See:

August 1, 2016 - 19:35

Thomas Reyes

He's admired by a depressingly large segment of the white working class while 98% of minorities fear and revile him. Nothing motivates Idpol and racial resentment more than fear, and that's what Trump will offer.

August 1, 2016 - 19:39

Lucas Bailey

Nobody said it ever happened either. ever.

The fact that you keep talking about electoral politics along with revolution as if their hand in hand suggests some kind of brain damage.

August 1, 2016 - 19:41

Aaron Cox

And hopefully he'll fuck them over harder than ever.

I'm a "minority". I see him for the idiot he is. We must make mockery of him a national pastime.

We must work with their fear.

It is said that to truly hate something, you must have loved it first. The white working class is in love with idpol and capitalism. We must rid them of this.

August 1, 2016 - 19:42

Jack Lopez

It has happened in the right, and it happens more every year.

Two-pronged attack, friend. We instigate, then turn their weapons against them.

August 1, 2016 - 19:43

Jace Jenkins

For Americans? There is no revolutionary course of action to take in the current conditions. Revolution at the heart of the American Empire is like a crime in the middle of a police station. It's fruitless, the interests of capital are far to firmly entrenched in keeping the system as it currently exists in place, and the American working class are too muh privileged over the rest of the world to do much to endanger their position.

Wouldn't go that far. There can be room for reformist struggle ("if this is Marxism, I am not a Marxist"). But I don't see any scope for it in America.

August 1, 2016 - 19:47

Liam Lopez

There is always a first step. Only idiots refuse to see this.

Aloha snackbar

Oh, I see, you're a dumbass third worldist that fell for Mao's shit version of Nationalism under the guise of communism. Nice job.

August 1, 2016 - 19:51

Carson Watson

Jill Stein because I'm not a bootlicker.

August 1, 2016 - 19:58

Brandon Flores

For myself, I believe that voting is pointless as its not the people who choose who gets to be in power. Rather at least in America the corrupted Electoral College, which shouldn't exist in this day and age anymore, is who decides who are new Oligarch Bourgeois puppet fucks the world over.

Even though I know Jill and the Green are not going to get 5% of the vote required for federal funding. Why? Because that would ruin the dictatorship of the two party system which plagues America since the Farewell address of Washington in 1796.

So the only way to change the political sphere is to destroy the very foundations it stands on. That is of course Capitalism which is how this machine works. Get rid of it and the whole thing falls like a house of card.

August 1, 2016 - 20:50

Carter Brooks

Americans

August 1, 2016 - 21:15

John Adams

I'm voting for B████ ██████

August 1, 2016 - 21:36

Daniel Cruz

Third worldism is a tiny minority of first world Maoists with no real influence on anything. The vast majority of Maoists aren't third worldists (including every active Maoist revolutionary movement.) It pisses me off that people often act as if all Maoists are Unruhe-tier cancer. Pretend my name stands for Not Third-worldist if it helps.

August 1, 2016 - 21:38

Robert Hall

You don't have much of a handle on materialism, do you?

No? I didn't say the first world, I'm specifically talking about America (and you should note that the labour aristocracy is not a Maoist/Third worldist concept).

August 1, 2016 - 21:43

Nathaniel Perez

Democrats were never a worker's party.

August 1, 2016 - 21:59

Dominic Lee

the hysteria around the khans is fucking hilarious, and goes to show how the media only cares about stirring up controversey

August 1, 2016 - 22:00

Aaron Wilson

You should put hair under her armpits

August 1, 2016 - 22:02

Colton Howard

The Democratic Party derives all its power from the capital porky gives to it.

If the dem party even became the slightest bit anti capitalist porky would abandon it and and all you'd be left with is a bunch of balloons and useful idiots that aren't useful anymore.

I don't entertain any ideas about working within the dem party for real change anymore. I'm voting for Jill and registering Green

August 1, 2016 - 22:13

Justin Clark

...

August 2, 2016 - 01:06

Christian Nelson

wsws.org/en/articles/2016/08/02/syri-a02.html

By Alex Lantier
2 August 2016

August 2, 2016 - 02:06

Gabriel Mitchell

...

August 2, 2016 - 02:06

Dylan Perry

inb4 everybody forgets about it in two weeks

August 2, 2016 - 03:13

Ryder Scott

Any Missouri, Michigan, or fellow Kansas fags voting in the primaries today?

August 2, 2016 - 04:27

James Martinez

I was only 6 at the time, but I still remember people being excited about Perot. After seeing videos etc, he likely would've gotten my vote. He seemed to be calling out the business policies Reagan championed, which hurt most of us. He seemed like he actually cared about "the little guy". Who knows if that's true, but he spoke with some conviction.

August 2, 2016 - 04:40

Jackson Ortiz

...

August 2, 2016 - 04:46

Justin Wood

State primaries, apparently. I had to look it up, too

August 2, 2016 - 04:59

Wyatt Cox

Nina Turner turns down offer to be the Green Party's candidate for vice president

Source: cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2016/08/nina_turner_turns_down_offer_t.html
Archive: archive.is/bMfhW

Nina Turner's rationale was basically that she's still a Democrat despite her disappointment in the party and wants to reform it from within, which she sees as a more feasible means of achieving her progressive goals.

I'm thinking of going, though I live a few hours away. Should I, famrades? It'd give me an opportunity to eat at one of the vegan restaurants in Houston, as well. It's been a while.

I don't know how I'd be able to get there, though, since I don't have a ride.

August 2, 2016 - 08:12

Joshua Moore

Holy shit. I had no idea. It's too late now since I don't have a ride anymore, but thanks for letting me know so I can do my part next time. You learn a lot of things when you turn 18.

August 2, 2016 - 08:16

Lincoln Powell

Jill Stein Picks Long-Time CounterPuncher Ajamu Baraka as Her VP Running Mate

Source: counterpunch.org/2016/08/01/jill-stein-picks-long-time-counterpuncher-ajamu-baraka-as-her-vp-running-mate/
Archive: archive.is/GHPCc

Other sources:

jill2016.com/jill_stein_selects_ajamu_baraka_as_vp
time.com/4434544/jill-stein-ajamu-baraka-vice-president-green-party/
rt.com/usa/354223-green-party-jill-stein-vice-presidential-mate/
usuncut.com/politics/jill-stein-vp-ajamu-baraka/

August 2, 2016 - 08:28

Aiden Barnes

I fucking hate the media. I haven't even paid attn really to that whole episode. Just what I've seen in headlines on reddit. Been downvoting anything related to it because it's bullshit & taking away from the attn of the DNC leak.

Very suspicious how Trump keeps saying shit about Russia, just playing into the whole red baiting the Dems are doing to also distract from the leaks. The more Trump does, the more I think he really is a plant for Shillary.

August 2, 2016 - 08:35

Benjamin Thompson

God damn it, Jill Stein.

Source: gizmodo.com/now-jill-stein-thinks-wi-fi-might-be-hurting-kids-1784664503
Archive: archive.is/i4wOW

Pic related is the DM I sent to @DrJillStein on Twitter. I seriously hope this is just another misunderstanding and not Jill Stein flirting with antiscience quackery again. It'll be a real embarrassment, especially for people like me. who have been defending her against anti-science and anti-vax accusations for months. If this keeps up, I may have to consider dropping Jill Stein in favor of Gloria la Riva or even Gary Johnson. Then again, B████ ██████ had a history with alternative medicine, and both Obama and HRC fueled anti-vax autism concerns years ago. Perhaps Jill Stein wouldn't be particularly out of place.

August 2, 2016 - 08:58

Kayden Williams

I'll be able to vote after all, so I'm looking into candidates. Here's a guide for my fellow Kansans. All of the candidates are on the D ballot. I haven't looked at the R ballot and don't plan to.

U.S. Senate

Patrick Wiesner (Lawrence)

Education: Ellis High School; Associate in Arts Degree, Colby Community College; a Bachelor of Science in Business in Accounting, Fort Hays State University; a Bachelor of Science in Chemistry, Fort Hays State University; a Master of Business Administration, Fort Hays State University; law degree from the University of Kansas
Career History: owner of a CPA practice in Hays (former), owner of a law practice in Overland Park (former, 22 years), owner of the firm Wiesner & Frackowiak, LC in the KC metro (current, 2 years?), military reservist (former, 21 years)
Given Reason for Running: paying off government debt

>On Serving as a Senator: "As Senator, I intend to show respect to the President, the people who work in government, and to federal agencies such as the courts, Veterans Administration, and Internal Revenue Service. My style is not to mean-mouth public servants. If I have a disagreement with the President, a member of Congress, or agency head, I will work with him or her to come to an agreement when the outcome is good public policy. I believe this way of doing business will spare the country of having to go through another spectacle like the Robert Bork nomination to the Supreme Court. Those hearings were the Senate at its worst. Even if the Senators considered him a poor choice, Judge Bork was a human being and entitled to respect. I understand the current Republican treatment of Supreme Court nominee Judge Merrick Garland is payback. The Democrats deserve it. But our nation needs a full complement of Supreme Court justices. America and Judge Garland are entitled to hearings and a vote. The US Senate should carry out its advice and consent duty and either accept or reject his appointment. The current disgust with Congress started with the Bork nomination."
>On Government Reform: no lobbyist-drafted bills, senators must read all bills
>On the Economy: Baby Boomers should pay off national debt, end Congress' "let's borrow money" culture, "The federal government is the only body big enough to provide a modern transportation infrastructure, set energy policy, and oversee environmental protection. We can immediately start work on roads, bridges, and airports with new revenue generated from fuel taxes and user fees. […] We need more private sector manufacturing jobs. Americans need to make what we consume. In the United States, employers pay, in addition to wages, the costs of Social Security, health care, litigation risk, taxes, and environmental protection. The countries we import from don't have these cost burdens. That is how foreign businesses can afford to ship manufactured products from other continents to US markets. Foreign corporations avoid US taxes by pricing their products at levels that show little no profit on US sales. I will advocate regulations and tax policy that encourage US businesses to stay here and foreign companies to relocate here. If a company employs Americans, I support rewarding them with a competitive tax rate, litigation relief, and protections against foreign dumping."
>On ISIS: "A bedrock value of Americans is that we help our allies. Iraq is an ally and now needs our help. Protection of their oil reserves is a vital interest. We first must recognize that we cannot expect that country to function as a democracy. They, historically, don’t chose leaders by elections. Neither will they develop a western style free-market economy. The Middle East way of doing business is different than ours. The United States cannot let the terrorist ISIS army march into Iraq and seize the oil fields. If ISIS takes control of these fields, they will use that oil wealth to promote violence against us and our allies. I support use of our military to defeat ISIS wherever they are including in Syria, Libya, or Iraq. Complete defeat of ISIS is necessary. Those countries, along with Afghanistan, don’t have economies strong enough to pay for the military and police forces required to control ISIS while at the same time providing for the needs of their own people. So it’s up the United States to stop ISIS; no other nations have this capability. After our troops give us victory, they can come home for good."

August 2, 2016 - 10:37

Bentley Ward

Fuck, that's an eyesore. Anyway, part II on Wiesner:

On Immigration: "A robust immigration policy would help the Kansas economy grow when these hard workers become employed by our businesses. State revenues would increase as more payroll taxes would be paid into the Kansas treasury. There are about 11 million undocumented immigrants. The United States government does not have the resources or public support to carry out a deportation program dealing with all these people. Amnesty is not an option; a wall would help but is not necessary. My solution is to establish special immigration facilities in northern Mexico to process those who want to apply for legal status. Those here illegally can return to that country and then reenter in accordance with US law. The reward will be a path to citizenship. The charge will be about $4,000 per person. This will cover the costs of processing, security, and facilities. For those undocumented who avoid applying for citizenship, they will be ineligible for the muh privileges and immunities granted to those who comply with immigration laws."

On the Environment: recognizes climate change is a result of fossil fuels, wants nuclear energy and fossil fuels to be the energy "base", supports supplementary wind energy, supports the Keystone pipeline "built in a way that doesn’t repeat our past environmental mistakes", opposes tax credits for wind energy and biofuel, opposes cap and trade

On Guns: doesn't want felons, those on the no-fly list, and mentally ill people to be able to legally purchase guns

On Drugs: "The reports indicate that opioids are manufactured in China and smuggled into the United States through Mexico. Failure to stop this drug trade is a failure of government. The President and Congress have the duty, tools, and public support to interdict. Yet we still have more overdoses, more addicted, and more ruined lives. The problem has international implications; that means the federal government must be involved. Legalizing these drugs and marijuana would be surrender. Our country is wealthy enough to afford drug treatment to everyone one who needs it and asks for it. I favor policy that will forgo prosecution of any addict who wants help. Our country is also wealthy enough to commit the required resources to operations for finding the makers and transporters of all illegal drugs, destroying their means of drug production, and then putting the criminals on trial. The American people should not tolerate this government failure. As Senator, I will advocate spending whatever it takes to fix this problem."

On the Affordable Care Act: "I opposed the Affordable Care Act because I didn’t want the government to take on another new entitlement program. However, we now have national health insurance as the law of the land. […] Repeal is unlikely. My job is to make it work. […] Congress needs to fix the current insurance models as the current structure has led to unaffordable insurance premiums. Also, the ACA funding mechanism is badly flawed. […] Because this funding is permanent, Congress is blocked from meaningful oversight. Without funding through yearly appropriations, our Senators and House members have no power to control costs.”

More info here: cjonline.com/news/elections-2016/vg/patrick-wiesner (written interview), wiesnerforsenate.com/about/ (campaign's official "about"), ontheissues.org/Senate/Patrick_Wiesner.htm

August 2, 2016 - 10:38

Gavin Campbell

U.S. Senate

Monique Singh

Education: Topeka High School
Career History: court advocate (former), valet (current)
Given Reason for Running: to achieve proportionate black representation in Senate (currently, there are 2 black senators, 13 would be proportionate to American demographics), affiliated with the Universal African Peoples Organization

On Serving as a Senator: "As a newly elected US Senator, I will work to bring credibility and respect back to the legislative branch by (1) being transparent in all my actions as a legislator and (2) hosting throughout the state bi-monthly townhall meetings to keep our citizens informed of all relevant issues impacting our state and the country."

On the Economy: "We need to implement an Urban Revitalization Program similar to the "Marshall Plan" that was utilized after World War II to rebuild Europe."

On Government Reform: greater transparency and communication with constituents, proportionate racial representation

On ISIS: "…[W]e must recognize that ISIS has grown because of our ill advised wars and policies in the Middle East including the Iraq War and our involvement in Libya as well as our uneven treatment of the Israeli and Palestinian conflicts. My advice to the President and fellow lawmakers would be to begin a series of serious peace overtures to all the various warring factions and delve into the causes of these conflicts and hatred of America to produce an environment that leads to peace for that entire region."

On Immigration: "I most definitely support a path to citizenship for the millions of undocumented immigrants currently residing in the US."

On the Environment: "Advocate and place more emphasis on wind turbines and other environmental friendly sources of energy."

On Guns: supports "common sense gun control"; doesn't want felons, those on the no-fly list, and mentally ill people to be able to legally purchase guns; wants to look at the policies of countries' with low gun violence and consider adopting them

On Drugs: "The Federal government should invest greater resources in educating the population about the negative impact of the opioid, crack and heroin addictions and provide more treatment facilities."

On the Affordable Care Act: "I fully support the current Affordable Care Act."

Other Concerns: the prison-industrial-complex and community policing

More info here: cjonline.com/news/elections-2016/vg/monique-singh (written interview)

August 2, 2016 - 10:40

Jackson Jones

Forgot to add Singh currently lives in Kansas City.

August 2, 2016 - 10:43

Ayden Hernandez

I'm a delegate to the convention in Houston myself.

August 2, 2016 - 10:45

Easton Gutierrez

Haha, that would have been entertaining.

August 2, 2016 - 11:22

Mason King

I voted Wiesner but I really regret it tbh. Both candidates were shit. I voted for a meme candidate for my state senate district though.

August 2, 2016 - 11:38

Wyatt Foster

Actually, Jill Stein might be right, believe it or not. Wi-Fi isn't much of a concern, though, since the radio waves it sends out are much lower than cellphones, telephone lines, etc.

Scores of Scientists Raise Alarm About the Long-Term Health Effects of Cellphones
Source: motherjones.com/environment/2015/05/cellphone-emf-wifi-health-risks-scientists-letter
Archive: archive.is/ODmuP

Wi-Fi Radiation and Children's Health
Source: wifiinschools.com/uploads/3/4/3/4/34340185/medical-advisory-wifi-and-children.pdf [PDF]

August 2, 2016 - 14:20

Josiah Lee

My mom's father died at age 42 from brain cancer. My mom was really afraid of using cellphones ever since they were invented, because of the potential risk.

She's 53 now & finally has her own. She rarely uses it, though. So this is a concern many people have. It sounds silly, but it's worth looking into, to be safe.

Jill Stein to me, seems like she's just an overly concerned MD/mother type, which is not a bad thing. I consider it a good thing, actually. I'd much rather a candidate be worried about all of our healths, rather than be in cahoots with big business & burying or stalling any research on possible health concerns posed by their products or production.

August 2, 2016 - 15:17

Andrew Miller

These sources are a little bit sketchy m8.

I like Stein myself but I'll admit that her medical policies can be insane. But I can live with this if she doesn't give any special treatment to the anti vaccine lemmings.

August 2, 2016 - 15:23

James Carter

Yeah she's the best choice out of all the shit we have to choose from right now. And her medical views don't concern the major issues.

August 2, 2016 - 15:27

Thomas White

Redacted Tonight actually did a pretty excellent review of most of the election fraud presented in Election Justice USA's 100-page preliminary report.

youtube.com/watch?v=L0v9tvIYpfU

So sad that we have to rely on a fucking comedy show to get responsible journalism.

August 2, 2016 - 15:34

Jeremiah Miller

csmonitor.com/World/Global-News/2016/0802/What-does-Jill-Stein-s-candidacy-mean-for-the-2016-elections
What does Jill Stein’s candidacy mean for the 2016 elections?

August 2, 2016 - 15:47

Bentley Powell

They did one for the RNC too:
youtube.com/watch?v=GNj3CCx9e9k

August 2, 2016 - 15:57

Jason Sanders

First time he's made me actually laugh

Thanks for sharing user. That does have good info in it. A good breakdown of the report & general happenings. I saw this report made its way to the front page of r/politics, and there were nothing but CTR shill calling the author a quack. I knew they were full of shit. It really pisses me off. Most of these CTR fucks should be gulaged, but some of them should be shot for manipulating the public so much. It really makes you sick.

August 2, 2016 - 15:58

Robert Butler

Here's a great thread for spotting the shills.

reddit.com/r/politics/comments/4vmclu/kremlin_the_us_is_covering_up_its_own_preelection/d5zove5?context=10000

Notice Surf_Science & JuicyJuuce in particular. Sometimes wish I could come through the screen & strangle them with my bare hands. It's a real shitty person who does this sort of thing for a living.

August 2, 2016 - 17:02

Carson Foster

I didn't realize she's doing twice as well as Nader. I'm old enough to remember the 2000 election and Nader seemed like he had a pretty strong 3rd party candidacy.

He was constantly in the news. That's really saying something if Jill's candidacy is twice as strong.

I thought it was strange that the MSM immediately started to smear her after B████ endorsed Clinton.

She really could win or at least spoil Clinton's run.

August 2, 2016 - 17:26

Nathaniel Parker

They shilled for Nader, hoping he could take away votes from Gore.
It didn't work, Gore won. But unfortunately it doesn't mean much in the Electoral College.

Now they will be all hush hush around Jill Stein. Hilldog is so cocksure about having the media on her side, she thinks she can shit on the left-wing and get away with it.

August 2, 2016 - 18:26

Cooper Hughes

One of the national convention delegates on this phone conference is saying that B████ mouthed "thank you" when the cameras weren't on him during one of the anti-TPP chants at the convention.

August 2, 2016 - 18:34

Henry Morales

Using your psi powers to see what the majority thinks again, eh? Wow they all agree with you again fancy that.

He asked for a plan. Provide an actable plan or be ignored.

Great dismissively patronizing non-response. I'm sure it will do great in place of an actual plan or her answering the fuckin question.

Yes it is, you hold your nose and pull the lever. Those are actions. They are things you can do.

Don't take it personally, m8, she's like this with everybody.

Let me guess, he should change it to Student Dean Plan? :^)

It would be extremely excellent

Mods are asleep?

August 2, 2016 - 18:36

Liam Jackson

what phone conference?

August 2, 2016 - 18:37

William Lee

The right wing media hasn't been hush hush. I'm subscribed to the Jill Stein for president booster club you tube channel and she's appeared on RT, Fox News and Fox Business recently.

They surprisingly let her talk. It was only when she went on CNBC that they gave her hell

August 2, 2016 - 18:40

Colton Smith

facebook.com/events/287705348254216/

August 2, 2016 - 18:54

Connor Cruz

have a recording?

August 2, 2016 - 18:56

Connor Rodriguez

It's being recorded (there should be a link later) and it's still on-going now.

August 2, 2016 - 18:58

Jordan Powell

jej, nice filter

August 2, 2016 - 19:27

Jack Campbell

Q F'ing T

August 2, 2016 - 20:00

Christian James

d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/6oxnwsm36w/econTabReport.pdf

August 2, 2016 - 20:07

Liam Smith

that includes Republicucks who probably thought he was the easier one to beat.

August 2, 2016 - 20:45

Lincoln Hernandez

But that's just a MSM bullshit line. Democrats were also parroting it.

August 2, 2016 - 23:29

Adam Campbell

Here's two good sources for the DNC leaks, so it's easier to follow:
reddit.com/domain/wikileaks.org/

This one is particularly good:
reddit.com/r/DNCLeaks
It looks like it's a place where the shilling can't get a foothold and there's a common goal.

August 2, 2016 - 23:46

Kevin Barnes

I might be nisremembering, but didn't Trump himself opine that Shillary is the weaker opponent?

August 2, 2016 - 23:55

Nolan Gonzalez

I remember him saying it, too. Here's a tweet from him saying it: quora.com/Is-Donald-Trump-right-to-prefer-to-run-against-Hillary-Clinton-than-Bernie-Sanders-in-2016

August 3, 2016 - 00:10

Michael Thompson

The audience reactions at Clinton's concession speech will be one of the richest veins in history

August 3, 2016 - 00:33

Xavier Fisher

Interesting Reddit post, possibly explaining the "mysterious" assassinations in connection with the election fraud scandal. Will Trump bend over and take it like John Kerry and B████ ██████ did?

August 3, 2016 - 00:47

Owen Fisher

I don't want Trump to win either, but goddamn if those reactions wouldn't be so satisfying.

August 3, 2016 - 01:26

Easton Gonzalez

kill all porkies

August 3, 2016 - 01:27

Camden Powell

I can't find any confirmation of Arnebeck's death, looks fake.

August 3, 2016 - 03:29

Adrian Jackson

Nice try, NSA.

August 3, 2016 - 03:53

Christopher Nelson

lol

August 3, 2016 - 07:58

Zachary Rodriguez

where that recording

August 3, 2016 - 08:13

Logan Thompson

lmaoo

Election night will be bittersweet. On one had, if Hillary wins the absolute ass devastation from Holla Forumscucks and the alt-right will be on a scale never seen before. However if Trump wins watching liberals riot and cry will also bring me great joy.

August 3, 2016 - 09:59

Hunter Sanchez

archive.is/gPPJs

August 3, 2016 - 11:20

Mason Perez

freeconferencecallhd.com/playback/?n=EPZG/j6Zvy
Found the conference call. some lady starts crying around 11:00

August 3, 2016 - 13:43

Jackson Cox

So is everything hosted over freeconferencecallhd publicly find-able?

August 3, 2016 - 18:57

Isaac Moore

We really can't lose.
well, we'll die but THE LULZ m8 THE LULZ!

August 3, 2016 - 22:09

Ayden Baker

The MSM is pretty adamant its going to drag Hillary across the finish line. She could probably have a pants-shitting stroke in the debates and still be defended by MSM hacks refocusing the attention on whatever gaffe(s) Trump said during the debate

August 3, 2016 - 23:15

Oliver Green

hot

August 4, 2016 - 00:14

Hunter Bennett

no no No NO NO NO

I'm literally a scat fetishist but the image you put into my mind makes me nauseous

August 4, 2016 - 00:24

Xavier Adams

Do you want to vote for someone who supports war and terrorism worldwide?

crusaderjournal.com/2016/08/04/bill-clinton-got-millions-from-worlds-biggest-sharia-law-education-firm/

August 4, 2016 - 08:46

Blake Smith

So Dylan Roof got his ass whooped in Charleston County Jail's showers by a black inmate. Not a peep from Holla Forums about their Rhodesian savior, surprisingly.

August 4, 2016 - 10:47

Cooper Ramirez

That kid that shot up that church?

August 4, 2016 - 13:22

Josiah Gutierrez

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/760145201008668672

"Hillary Clinton took cash from, was director of, company that did deals with ISIS"

August 4, 2016 - 16:46

Easton Cruz

Yes. The one with the terrible bowl haircut. But that's the least of his worries.

August 4, 2016 - 16:47

Michael Wright

youtube.com/watch?v=kwmIU3_Fjew

August 4, 2016 - 17:11

Charles Powell

Had a nice time on the first day of the Green national convention in Houston here. The place is swimming with genuine socialists, of many different parties and persuasions. About 30 of us got together and a "watermelon" (get it) meeting in the evening about ways we can push the Greens to become a solid anti-capitalist party. People also wanted to see them try and unite with and bring in other socialist and communist parties like Socialist Alternative and such.

August 4, 2016 - 19:50

Logan Gutierrez

change the name from greens. it implies you're all autistic hippies

August 4, 2016 - 19:54

Tyler Bennett

Also one of the fucking S█████ or bust speakers called everyone in the party before them white supremacists.

August 4, 2016 - 20:01

Ethan Young

at the reception

August 4, 2016 - 20:02

James Martin

Has anyone seen the current polls? What a trainwreck.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/#now

August 4, 2016 - 22:27

Ethan Fisher

Trumptanic. He really needs to just shut up and let some Clinton scandals come out and dominate the thoughts of people for a while. There was a point after he said that women who get abortions illegally should be punished and he recovered from that fall by just shutting up for a while.

August 4, 2016 - 22:37

Gabriel Myers

it's literally rigged polls. Here's Reuters openly admitting that they're changing their poll methods to make Hillary look better:
Why Reuters/Ipsos is tweaking its U.S. presidential poll
reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-poll-reutersipsos-idUSKCN10910T

August 5, 2016 - 01:16

Jaxson Johnson

The media need trump for click bait and ratings.
What if trump just stopped doing things and shitposted on pol all day.
The media wouldnt know what to do,

August 5, 2016 - 01:19

Xavier Gutierrez

I think the more interesting question would be: what if Trump shitposted on leftypol all day?

August 5, 2016 - 01:29

Daniel Hall

I felt the same way when i was down at Philly with Socialist Alternative. They certainly are as left as I'd like, but holy shit it feels good to talk to actually anti-capitalist people compared to the "we need a balance of the two" we usually hear from capitalist apologists.

August 5, 2016 - 05:28

Bentley Perez

Were they general socialists or was it people who supported different ideologies

August 5, 2016 - 08:01

Jose Parker

It ranged from soc dems to leftypol style communists.

Hedges and Stein spoke at one of the meetings. Room was pretty divided when Hedges said that B████ was basically Syriza level betrayal. Some cheered and some booed. Some advocated for force, some wanted to continure nonviolent protest.

There was one Democrat apologist who wanted us to vote Hillary and work within the Democratic party. He got booed by more than half the room. Feels good man.

I met more lefties at the final day of the protest outside the DNC Convention, when one group tried to citizen arrest Hillary only to get dragged away by the cops, and another group of anarchists (who most of the nonviolent protestors tried to demonize) tried to shut down roads. I don't know if they succeeded or not in that though.

Also Philly called in riot police, then immediately sent them back when they realized we were recording them.

August 5, 2016 - 08:17

Jaxson Price

wat

August 5, 2016 - 08:26

Gabriel Hall

I knew something was up! Thanks for the link.

I kept seeing these polls pop up on r/politics, unsurprisingly. It's inundated with Trump spam & Hillary shills now. I just got my second ban from there within 3 months, this time for 21 days. The shills have officially taken over that subreddit, which was increasingly more garbage every day. Because of how shit it is now, I welcome the ban, but don't like that I can't counter the BS these people are peddling.

Check out this fuck: reddit.com/user/JuicyJuuce
Prepare to have an aneurysm. They got me banned yet continue to tag me, saying they've "thoroughly debunked" the claim that the DNC colluded with the media, lmao. They need to be shot.

August 5, 2016 - 08:33

Lincoln Hernandez

It's a thing we have in the US. Technically you can hold someone who's breaking the law/a criminal until the police can arrive. It's rarely ever used and mostly on peons, never "higher ups".

August 5, 2016 - 08:53

Hunter Cruz

Is this what they call Freudian slip?

August 5, 2016 - 08:57

Adrian Clark

Yeah, my thoughts too. It was like 10 people who tried marching past the police line. At least they tried something though, compared to the others who stood around chanting.

August 5, 2016 - 08:58

Nicholas Johnson

Watermelon as in green on the outside, but all red and black underneath?

By the way, is there going to be recorded videos released of these speeches and the convention process, like the Democrats and Republicans did? Or no?

Was this at the Green convention or the DNC convention protests? Is there video of those speeches?

August 5, 2016 - 08:59

Benjamin Jackson

Here is hedges. I'll see if I can find Stein.

youtube.com/watch?v=nVTAEMi7fsM

August 5, 2016 - 09:01

Thomas Taylor

Here is Stein speaking at the same panel with Hedges

youtube.com/watch?v=HVyrCXp-9O4

August 5, 2016 - 09:05

William Hill

Thank you very much!

August 5, 2016 - 09:11

Easton Price

No problem. I'll see if I can find the DNC apologist as well.

It wasn't next to the main protests. It was in a building near city hall where another protest was held. Stein also spoke there too.

August 5, 2016 - 09:25

Justin Nelson

why do his followers support him so blindly when he routinely advocates policies that go against everything they claim to stand for (supports israel, ambiguous support for trannies, reversed anti-interventionist stance, etc. etc.)

August 5, 2016 - 09:47

Benjamin Gomez

Because they believe in liberty and the truth.

I think the Israel policy is stupid (but I can see why he would be forced to suggest that policy).

Basically, when the only other candidates are exposed liars, you're hands are kinda tied.

This election has shown one thing, do not trust your politicians as they are easily compromised by lying management and manipulated governmental structures.

This election has proved that only YOU can make America great again, because your politicians are scum.

Trump is just the least compromised given his already great wealth (which gives subversives less leverage on him) and his experience with dealing with liars (from his business management)

Frankly, I see him as neither left or right. He's just pragmatic and experienced with sorting out the shit from the good.

I just hope his hidden motives are good. There's still no direct evidence of this (i.e. people have hacked and found nothing)

August 5, 2016 - 09:57

Adrian Garcia

Because they are completely consumed by the spectacle and aren't interested in the man himself or the things he says but the idea of the sort of persona he represents.

See: all those faggots that think he's going to demolish PC culture.

August 5, 2016 - 10:01

Asher Bailey

The main problem with that argument is that it turns out he's not actually that wealthy and has needed to take money from people and his business management has mostly been convincing people that he's hot shit so that they'd give him money to give to other people and chop some off the top. Trump is not a good choice, but we have no good choices right now. Politics is a scam.

August 5, 2016 - 10:02

Luke Hernandez

Because they're the biggest cucks of them all.

August 5, 2016 - 10:10

Bentley Reyes

They are reactionary scum.

The moment he spoke at AIPAC supporting the Zionist occupiers should have been the moment Holla Forums realized they were duped by yet another one of these ruling class bastards.

August 5, 2016 - 10:13

Jacob Taylor

Would you say that:

-A Ted Cruz supporter is a misled worker and can be brought to socialism

-A Donald Trump supporter is a fascist who deserves the wall

August 5, 2016 - 10:27

Nolan Watson

No. Too big of a generalization.

There are more fascists among the contingency of Trump's early supporters, sure.

August 5, 2016 - 10:35

Lincoln Gomez

THIS. Which is why I'm voting Green. I've been voting Dem for 16 years, but DAMN at some point you have to stop letting yourself get fucked over regardless of what the consequences are.

August 5, 2016 - 10:47

Alexander Rivera

I would actually go further to say that while there are more fascists among Trump's supporters, there are more Christian-style ISIS jihadis among Cruz's.

Contrariwise, I would suggest there are more people whose primary concern is opposition to neocon/neolib transnationalism among Trump's supporters (even if via lolbert isolationism rather than opposition to capitalist exploitation) than among Cruz's supporters, who are (much like our side's SJWs) more concerned with spooky cultural nonissues.

August 5, 2016 - 10:49

Anthony Scott

...

August 5, 2016 - 10:53

Joseph Nelson

That's what doing business is.

Unless you sell yourself, no one will buy.

Trump is good at that.

And that's what all of the best leaders are good at.
Spinning the memes. Same in every form of government.
"bread and circuses" - it's all about the way you spin that meme.

Oh look, Holla Forums knows this already.

August 5, 2016 - 11:12

Tyler Powell

Normally I would say "Wait, support B████", but we've already got confirmation that Shillary is courting lapsed Republicans, something I predicted she would do after the convention.

Hillary is going to bank on her being more conservative than Trump.

August 5, 2016 - 11:19

Michael Kelly

Jesus christ, no wonder I hate capitalism.

August 5, 2016 - 11:22

Daniel Turner

No different to communism.

Only you use propaganda and force.

Otherwise your nation stops producing.

IT'S ALL IN YOUR HEAD

August 5, 2016 - 11:30

Connor Cruz

You could make this same post for Hillary Clinton and it would be far harder to rebut because Dems care about income inequality and non-intervention far more than Trump supporters care about trannies and Israel. Why did you make this post about Trump and not both candidates since both are political compromises?

They are choosing him for his stance on legal and illegal immigration reform and trade policy. Don't be too shocked: but some people in this election are voting tribally and will defend their candidate regardless of what they support tomorrow.

August 5, 2016 - 11:34

Isaac Scott

go home, i'm not even a commie and i know your shit stinks

August 5, 2016 - 11:38

Adam Green

No.

Communism is a complete fantasy unless you literally have lords that send people to whip their slaves into action.

August 5, 2016 - 11:44

Hunter Young

This is why Black people are freaking out.

August 5, 2016 - 11:44

Brandon Jackson

I think the key difference is most Trump voters seem to actually support him to achieve broad, major policy changes like trade, immigration, jobs, and noninterventionism. I refuse to believe there are significant numbers of Hillary voters who are truly excited about anything she's saying, rather than just supporting the status quo and opposing Trump.

August 5, 2016 - 11:45

Connor Perez

This is bang on.

Trump knows how to sell things.

August 5, 2016 - 11:46

Andrew Morales

even though not even the USSR claimed it was communist?

August 5, 2016 - 11:46

Tyler Roberts

Because it wasn't exactly. It still used currency.

It just had one government and more regulation/enforcement.

Eventually, the economy stopped because the people felt trapped and uninspired to move.

Trump inspires because he points to things and says "hey why don't we do this, come on let's go!"

That's what great leaders do.

August 5, 2016 - 11:48

Jaxson Adams

great leader imo

August 5, 2016 - 11:51

Jonathan Perry

It's been a long time since I've told somebody this, but you should seriously consider killing yourself.

Reality isn't a game.

August 5, 2016 - 12:00

Levi Baker

People really will grasp at straws for a 'leader'.

August 5, 2016 - 12:03

Jackson Jackson

I honest to god agree with you.

He's all talk.

And that will work.

August 5, 2016 - 12:07

Brandon Watson

who let this retard in here

August 5, 2016 - 12:07

Jace Diaz

"bread and circuses" is itself a spin-meme written by a sellout in order to curry favor with the government

August 5, 2016 - 12:09

Jaxon Price

What? This is like talking to a self-aware Obama voter on 2008.

August 5, 2016 - 12:09

Hudson Green

Oh user… but it is a game

if there is a god, that would be his reason - assuming that he isn't our situation

August 5, 2016 - 12:09

Aaron Jenkins

This will work if YOU want it to work.

Think big and you will get big.

It's all in your head.

August 5, 2016 - 12:11

Ryder Brown

No, that's not how reality works friend.

August 5, 2016 - 12:12

Parker Stewart

...

August 5, 2016 - 12:13

Dylan Hall

All leaders in human existence in some way bait people into letting them lead them.

Remember we evolved from fish: and fish are inquisitive

August 5, 2016 - 12:13

Daniel Clark

That is how it works.

That's how it always works.

That's why "capitalism" beat "communism"

August 5, 2016 - 12:14

Evan Smith

Meanwhile, thinking that you can abolish all labor and devise a system that can work with this sure is thinking small compared to "fix what's wrong with what we're already doing".

Gold star for you.

August 5, 2016 - 12:15

Gavin Butler

...

August 5, 2016 - 12:16

William Garcia

...

August 5, 2016 - 12:17

William Campbell

Fuck off Plato, you're shit idea of the noble lie is why the world is so shit

August 5, 2016 - 12:18

Benjamin White

Serious enough for tons of clickbait articles, apparently.

August 5, 2016 - 12:22

Owen Flores

sauce

August 5, 2016 - 12:24

Lincoln Howard

...

August 5, 2016 - 12:24

James Bennett

Government can only do so much.
The structure of the system barely affects it unless it:
1. Does memes better
2. Is still logically achievable

In the end it's the people who decide if their system works or not. Communism's memes sucked, even though realistically it did things nearly the same way.

The reason why it sucked is because of money. Capitalism is all about money.

People thirst for money.
Because money gives them the ability to experience certain things.

Communism, in theory, should be no different. Yet it was different because of money.

That and the money allowed the individuals themselves to spread the memes (advertisement).
That barely happened in communism. In fact if I remember correctly it cracked down on that.

not lie.

But push us to discover

Very soon we might all realise what really happens.

So we'll soon need to realise why we want to live.
And that's to explore.

We are naturally inquisitive.
We imagine about things.
Our imagination is what drives humanity.

August 5, 2016 - 12:25

Thomas Sullivan

I'm explaining why donald Trump is winning.

August 5, 2016 - 12:26

Adam Clark

Trump is winning because people are willing to accept one set of lies if they're at least admitting there's a problem compared to 'there's no problem shut up'. That doesn't mean his time as president is going to be positive, that just means he understands the art of the horse race.

August 5, 2016 - 12:28

Zachary Ramirez

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Alright then fag, do the same for anarchy

August 5, 2016 - 12:29

Justin Thomas

Anarchy is fiction.

It's unobtainable.

August 5, 2016 - 12:29

Elijah Myers

...

August 5, 2016 - 12:30

Aaron Gray

oh wait.

No it is obtainable if there is room to explore and a way to be self sufficient.

If we find some space to explore and we can fend for ourselves, then we can have anarchy.

August 5, 2016 - 12:31

Kevin Sanchez

The more important issue here is that Americans are retards much, much more so than Trump being some high level, deep thinker. Especially not with all the recent nonsense he's been saying. Both candidates are just a sham. It don't matter, none of this matters.

Praising him in any way is highly retarded.

August 5, 2016 - 12:31

Kevin Roberts

Practically though.. I don't think it's possible now that I think about it, that would require people to literally be isolated all the time.

People are social creatures.

August 5, 2016 - 12:32

Oliver Reyes

You don't get it.

dumbasses will believe in Trump and won't realise what he is doing.
That will stimulate the economy BIG TIME.

And Hillary is screwed because she committed the crimes. No one wants a leader who is criminal.

that's why the rothschilds use a proxy

August 5, 2016 - 12:34

Asher White

What are you on?

August 5, 2016 - 12:36

Brandon Gonzalez

Wait
What do you think anarchism is?

August 5, 2016 - 12:36

Henry Smith

What

August 5, 2016 - 12:45

Ayden Davis

Holla Forums and the internet.

The key to understanding memes, why they exist and how they work.

That.

It's impossible unless we motivate ourselves to do things individually and become self sufficient or able to cooperate with each other (which requires an agreement of sorts - essentially what government and force has inadvertently done for us, which is against that definition therefore).
That requires:
1. tools to do things as individuals
2. the knowledge of how to use those tools
3. the urge to seek and understand that knowledge (inspiration)

That's why suggest something to explore.

And we've got a big universe.

August 5, 2016 - 12:49

Hudson Harris

that is only achievable through government - which is an organisation

Unless we are isolated by ourselves and self sufficient.

August 5, 2016 - 12:50

Oliver Reed

wat

August 5, 2016 - 12:54

Ryan Price

you realize the anarchist definition of government is a somewhat specific thing right?

August 5, 2016 - 12:55

Justin Flores

...

August 5, 2016 - 12:56

Jayden Cox

I thought it was something to do with self-governance.

But that's impossible in a finite world with 7 billion people and dwindling resources.

We'd all die.

August 5, 2016 - 13:06

Noah Lopez

So you know better.

I thought that definition was plenty sufficient.

If it's not, elaborate on the weaknesses of it.

August 5, 2016 - 13:07

Brandon Flores

>humans can't work together unless they agree to work together.
>Laws are agreements

Unless you are alone, there is theoretically a form of organisation.

Government is just a name for organisation in reality.

That's why we have corporate governance

August 5, 2016 - 13:09

Andrew Russell

wut

August 5, 2016 - 13:24

Gabriel Lopez

Are you 9?

August 5, 2016 - 13:29

John Gray

well.. not literally

implicitly. It's function is to organise the nation.

August 5, 2016 - 13:30

Carson King

No, are you?

Because we're trapped on Earth son and we NEED organisation while we're on it. There are so many things that would go completely haywire if we stop any form of organisation.

August 5, 2016 - 13:31

Ryan Ortiz

Democracy, according to anarachists, would not be government, because it has no levels of systematic hierarchy using self-justifying violence. So maybe they're interested in something like that.

August 5, 2016 - 13:32

Easton Lee

Then we'd need a fully informed society.

hang on.. the fucking internet..

and what if we only modified intelligence, would that be sufficient

August 5, 2016 - 13:35

Ethan Anderson

and while I dislike the idea of "nullifying senses" what if we construed ourselves in the opposite way - fine tune the senses and make us great at all things, turn us into ubermensch

no that's silly user :^)

August 5, 2016 - 13:39

Jordan Rivera

...

August 5, 2016 - 13:52

Aiden Mitchell

well I see no better solution user and now I understand why there was such a push for "that ideology"

if your world runs on lies, why does it matter?

August 5, 2016 - 14:01

Ryan Collins

and fuck you, you should never stop people from thinking, I was just trying to think of a better solution. You who seek to destroy inspiration are truly men of the Earth

August 5, 2016 - 14:03

Carson Collins

fart

August 5, 2016 - 14:03

Robert Price

Someone get this man a spook of the year trophy.

August 5, 2016 - 14:04

Austin Diaz

Did you make this? Do you have the original?

August 5, 2016 - 14:23

Nathaniel Wood

Who said you were thinking or inspiring

August 5, 2016 - 14:33

Henry Johnson

Who said I wasn't?

To me I was :^)

August 5, 2016 - 14:39

Levi Walker

That';s the only remotely possible way that capitalism could self regulate too though. But there's profit incentive to prevent a fully informed society.

August 5, 2016 - 14:40

Kevin Jones

But there's profit incentive to prevent a fully informed society.

Well we have a problem then.

Or do we?

That sounds dangerous..

August 5, 2016 - 14:43

Juan Thompson

Infact that's a ponzi scheme.

August 5, 2016 - 14:44

Isaac Myers

youtube.com/watch?v=u6XAPnuFjJc

August 5, 2016 - 14:49

Jaxson Gonzalez

heh.
I see what they're doing with the chans now.
Getting them to dig for free.
I say that would work, it's produced incredible results already.

I think companies need to engage, not try to shut down, with these chans.

If not companies (who do it for profit), government individuals.

I'd say the FBI is already doing that with the Clinton foundation.
Holla Forums got into that quickly.

They gotta do that more, I and many others would still dig like that.

August 5, 2016 - 15:06

Nathan Jones

Can we make this another "Hoovervilles were pretty great" post?

August 5, 2016 - 15:08

Brody Turner

spread the truth gentelmen

August 5, 2016 - 15:10

Jaxson Nguyen

...

August 5, 2016 - 15:12

William Torres

kek

Look I think Holla Forums and Holla Forums are surprisingly similar.

And frankly I see a need for both nationalism and globalisation.
These next few months might get interesting when the left and right begin to converge.
I've always sat in the middle cherrypicking both sides or neither. We need to push that a little.

Both seek aesthetic in a way too.. which is odd, because why do we care about things like that.

August 5, 2016 - 15:16

Anthony Gutierrez

¿Negro que?

August 5, 2016 - 15:24

Jose Robinson

Also that does not explain how we deal with getting people in their "right" place.
If we do nothing about that.. we will have problems, particularly with things like solving problems that could destroy us.

August 5, 2016 - 15:25

Julian Ward

...

August 5, 2016 - 15:28

Kevin Roberts

I love the low effort shop, lmao

August 5, 2016 - 15:29

Samuel Perez

no need.

Logic works in my mind.
Good ideas find a way.

And we might use Trump for something far greater than what we might think. But you guys have to see that Trump might not be as terrible as you think.
he could Trump the current way of things

I think we should slowly teach ways of programming to be honest.. in slow doses
also gamification might be sorta onto something

August 5, 2016 - 15:31

Wyatt Stewart

Jesus. You're a some kind of schizoid singulatarian, aren't you?

August 5, 2016 - 15:52

Mason Jackson

Yeah, I'm noticing a lot of word salad.

August 5, 2016 - 16:13

Jaxon Martinez

Is this a comfy thread?
This seems comfy.

August 5, 2016 - 16:16

Carter Murphy

Serious enough for tons of clickbait articles, apparently.

August 5, 2016 - 16:17

Eli Collins

THIS

August 5, 2016 - 17:30

Noah Ortiz

I honestly don't think I've ever seen shitposting like this.

Get your head checked user, but first fuck off out of the thread.

August 5, 2016 - 17:34

Ryder Clark

Sounds kinda spooky there m8.

August 5, 2016 - 17:36

Sebastian Lopez

Dem Party against Trump seem amusingly similar to Tory party against Corbyn in Britain.

Both spit on their supporters and expect tribal hatred of the other party to win them an election with votes from people they can't credibly claim to represent on issues.

August 5, 2016 - 17:49

Oliver Baker

I don't think it's shitposting

August 5, 2016 - 18:58

Robert Murphy

Like I said, many different socialists and communists. The RCP is pushing their cultish flyers quite a bit at the convention here in fact.

August 5, 2016 - 18:58

Levi Young

Seriously guise the Greens are swimming with genuine leftists now. Everyone I talk to knows the difference between social democracy and socialism and nearly every workshop I've been to notes that overcoming capital is part of the struggle. This needs to be the future of a unified socialism/communism in America, especially this election.

August 5, 2016 - 19:04

Robert Anderson

Yeah most of the workshops if not all of them have been recorded and are going to be uploaded to one of their websites later if they haven't been already.

August 5, 2016 - 19:07

John Peterson

This is pretty great, it's a shame he didn't become Stein's running mate after all.

August 5, 2016 - 19:25

Daniel James

politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2016/08/judge-rejects-suit-against-presidential-debate-commission-226720
The judge said the First Amendment claims in the suit were invalid because the commission is a private entity and only government institutions have First Amendment obligations. President Barack Obama and 2012 GOP presidential nominee and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney were also named as defendants in the case, but Collyer found no basis for the claims against them or any of the other defendants.

August 5, 2016 - 19:52

John Howard

Fug

August 5, 2016 - 20:20

Gabriel Davis

Hang every judge with the guts of every cop

August 5, 2016 - 21:04

Evan Parker

>nytimes.com/2016/08/05/opinion/campaign-stops/i-ran-the-cia-now-im-endorsing-hillary-clinton.html

August 5, 2016 - 21:23

Isaiah Gomez

Sounds more like a repudiation of Trump than an endorsement.

August 6, 2016 - 05:02

Jayden Taylor

Is that an albino?

August 6, 2016 - 05:23

Levi Jackson

I really wish a happening did happen.
As far as I can tell the election will be stolen again and the sheeple will roll over and take it.

August 6, 2016 - 11:05

Tyler Nelson

theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/06/republicans-hillary-clinton-donald-trump
Moar neocon pandering from Shillary.

August 6, 2016 - 13:12

James Cooper

If he's a "singulatarian", then he definitely doesn't represent this transhumanist! #NotMyCyborg

August 6, 2016 - 13:17

Cooper Anderson

Great to hear! Do you have a link to them, or information about where they would be posted? If not, I can just look for myself in the next few days or weeks.

August 6, 2016 - 13:24

Parker Stewart

So tl;dr "I support Hillary because the CIA will probably get more chances to destabilise other countries in the name of American interests".

Also sounds like he's angling for a position in Clinton's cabinet/government

August 6, 2016 - 13:29

Henry Rodriguez

...

August 6, 2016 - 19:02

Isaac Green

youtube.com/watch?v=eiu3oT2-Eng
Jill Stein interviewed by a reporter from the armenian genocide denial network (TYT)

August 6, 2016 - 20:59

Ian Lopez

At 26:20 she clears up that anti-vax shit once and for all.

August 6, 2016 - 21:35

Nathan Williams

I don't know why Stein is so afraid of talking about the working of class and the contradictions of capital but it is super frustrating that she still isn't even after we passed this anti-capitalism plank. If she wants the B████ ██████ audience she needs to talk about that shit like he did.

August 7, 2016 - 04:25

Xavier Thompson

Rolled 3, 6, 1, 5, 4, 4 = 23 (6d6)
Stoopid question:
What is the position of Cenk Uygur about the Armenian genocide?

August 7, 2016 - 05:33

Christian Campbell

...

August 7, 2016 - 07:47

Camden Bennett

To be fair, there are something like several dozen 3rd-party presidential candidates, which would be completely impractical onstage, so the suit is pretty silly.

August 7, 2016 - 11:04

Robert Collins

yeah, democracy is pretty inconvenient and silly

August 7, 2016 - 11:31

Charles Morales

There aren't any real requirements beyond filing forms to make a political party (or run as an independent candidate), it's about as strict as a religious ministerial ordination.

What's actually needed is an attack on FPTP voting, so that 3rd-parties aren't a pointless, masturbatory self-indulgence.

August 7, 2016 - 11:36

Caleb Johnson

Seems a bit of an exaggeration, but more ideas onstage are better than less.

There shouldn't be massive hoops to jump through to have a political voice.

The financial restrictions alone for getting name recognition are there, especially since Citizens United. Let people form political parties, more competition the better.

August 7, 2016 - 13:31

Aiden Stewart

I was watching a 20+ year old Simpsons episode, and the subject was of Sideshow Bob's rigging the election. They flashed this paper & the editorial reminded me of CTR. Kinda funny.

August 7, 2016 - 13:34

Evan Cooper

Btw the scam was registering dead people/pets to vote, kinda needs that context lmao

August 7, 2016 - 13:39

Aiden Scott

It absolutely isn't an exaggeration:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_United_States
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_third_party_and_independent_presidential_candidates,_2016

3rd-party politics, especially upballot, are pointless. Only changes to the electoral system at a constitutional level will ever fix this.

August 7, 2016 - 15:25

John Thompson

Classic Simpsons is GOAT.

August 7, 2016 - 15:31

Ryder Edwards

this cunt really does seem to be falling apart tbh.

August 7, 2016 - 16:40

Andrew Miller

Yeah, I don't know how she'll manage four years let alone eight.

August 7, 2016 - 16:50

Luis James

Wont Hillary be one of the oldest presidents in history?
I think she is almost 70, if she goes a full 8 years she will be like 77 or 78 by the end.
The presidency of america is one of the most stressful jobs on the planet, Hillary also has a history of being a senile old lady who cant use a computer and had a aneurysm.
There was also that wikileaks email where huma abedine described her as lost and forgetful.

I fully expect shillary to die in office.

Bill dont look to good himself

August 7, 2016 - 17:00

Caleb Adams

Porky doesn't care about fitness to serve

August 7, 2016 - 17:07

Matthew Morales

And then Vice President takes over?
Who's Vice President gonna be?

August 7, 2016 - 17:09

Anthony Wright

If Hillary dies in office the new president will be boring white guy and corporate liberal tim kaine

August 7, 2016 - 17:14

Ayden King

Uhhhhh Bill looks like a Zombie now. As if the Capitalist draining away at his soul.

Just what we need is more Corporate Liberals.

August 7, 2016 - 17:18

Brody Ward

...

August 7, 2016 - 17:22

Ian Turner

lol, did he played dota all night?

August 7, 2016 - 17:23

Kevin Diaz

tim kain looks like the type of guy to war sock with sandals and take sex vacations to third world countries

August 7, 2016 - 17:26

Adrian Lewis

He's going to be at her funeral.

August 7, 2016 - 17:45

Oliver Hernandez

Seriously. Watching him campaigning kinda wore me out, and I'm 29. When people used his age to make some point about fitness, I'd point that out. He was like a machine.

August 7, 2016 - 17:48

David Flores

I legit think she might have something wrong with her.
Do you think if she dies they will weekend at B████s her and pretend nothings wrong.

August 7, 2016 - 19:49

Evan Williams

No

August 7, 2016 - 19:57

Tyler Clark

Reagan was a worse case

August 7, 2016 - 19:57

Sebastian Thompson

I find the possibility of her death being hidden … very possible! Until they figure out what to do next… Probably AKA less influencial president… sooo.. less state more corps .. corporatocracy rising after Hillary's death?

Also, good pun.

August 7, 2016 - 20:04

Jason White

I am not surprised, I remember reading an article where she stated she "short circuited" like she is some kind of robot.

But I eel that she wouldn't make it a year through the presidency at the rate she is right now. Then we have her shitty Vice President.

August 7, 2016 - 20:08

Ayden Nelson

Someone fill me in, here. Where did this happen & what's going on? I've seen the pic a couple times today but don't know. Don't know what search term to use, "Clinton stumbles" just got me her stumbling over email answers, lol.

August 7, 2016 - 20:09

Luke Baker

Oh shit an old lady tripped

August 7, 2016 - 20:11

Aiden Ward

jeb bush still a mess, son endorses trump, jeb not seen for days, said to be wandering the streets of boston reevaluating his life and trying to find himself while this plays in the background.
youtube.com/watch?v=MIHZBKl7KPw

thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/290696-george-p-bush-tells-gop-to-support-trump

August 7, 2016 - 20:13

Joseph Williams

With a pocketful of plastic turtles

August 7, 2016 - 20:18

Bentley Jones

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diazepam

Diazepam, first marketed as Valium, is a medication of the benzodiazepine family that typically produces a calming effect. It is commonly used to treat a range of conditions including anxiety, alcohol withdrawal syndrome, benzodiazepine withdrawal syndrome, muscle spasms, seizures, trouble sleeping, and restless legs syndrome.[3] It may also be used to cause memory loss during certain medical procedures.[4][5] It can be taken by mouth, inserted into the rectum, injected into muscle, or injected into a vein.[5] When given into a vein, effects begin in one to five minutes and last up to an hour.[5] By mouth, effects may take 40 minutes to begin.[6]

Common side effects include sleepiness and trouble with coordination.[5] Serious side effects are rare.[3] They include suicide, decreased breathing, and an increased risk of seizures if used too frequently in those with epilepsy.[3][5] Occasionally excitement or agitation may occur.[7][8] Long term use can result in tolerance, dependence, and withdrawal symptoms on dose reduction. Abrupt stopping after long term use can be potentially dangerous.[3] After stopping, cognitive problems may persist for six months or longer.[7] It is not recommended during pregnancy or breastfeeding.[5] Its mechanism of action is by increasing the effect of the neurotransmitter gamma-Aminobutyric acid (GABA).[7]

It all makes sense tbh

August 7, 2016 - 21:17

Jace Gray

I think most politicians use benzos for anxiety & being in the public spotlight constantly(recently it came out that Obama uses Xanax, too, right?). But yeah, it's also prescribed for seizures, so it could be that.

Weird if that is an injector pen, though. I've never seen one prescribed(worked in a doctor's office for about 4 years). I guess it's getting her "battle ready" lmao. I could totally see Hillary running despite a health issue. She only cares about the power, not about the people. So she'd do it. It would be funny if it came out that she was/is using all sorts of RXs - speed, benzos, etc. She just seems like the type, to me. One of those crazy, power hungry fucks with a personal MD that tags along everywhere with them.

August 7, 2016 - 21:33

Austin Williams

I actually remember them hiding JFK's illness from the public for years.
It's possible.

August 7, 2016 - 22:08

Ryan Garcia

Damn, you're old

August 7, 2016 - 22:22

Matthew Ward

The american public literally had no idea FDR used a wheel chair and had polio

August 7, 2016 - 22:48

Elijah Cruz

Yes. Most people who use Valium use it for seizures.

hahahahahahahaahahahahahaha

Oh my god you people are on like twelve different prescriptions you should know all of this

August 7, 2016 - 22:54

Jackson Gray

you don't need artifact-riddled jpeg conspiracies to know she has shitty health.

August 8, 2016 - 01:43

Wyatt Long

You know I've been thinking about it I'm pretty sure Trump has been incredibly successfully moved the country to the right. I think it's by accident and not his goal, because he's not really a conservative. The Democratic Party is pretty much openly neo-conservative and hawkish now in foreign policy and economically right wing. The insurgent left of the Democrats, B████'s supporters, have been totally marginalized with this absurd "you have to vote against the second coming of Adolph Hitler" rhetoric. All the major political power is moving to the right thanks to Trump on everything except for LGBT and Race

August 8, 2016 - 02:35

Oliver Martinez

THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS

theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/08/republican-evan-mcmullin-presidential-run-trump

August 8, 2016 - 12:22

Kevin Cooper

twitter.com/nxthompson/status/760227940407926784

Damn white people

August 8, 2016 - 12:23

Nathan Ortiz

Amazing! If only Mexicans voted, the wall would never be built!

August 8, 2016 - 12:31

Elijah Martinez

🍀🍀🍀McMullin🍀🍀🍀

August 8, 2016 - 12:58

Eli Cooper

Fuck off retard. The format of information only matters when you're trying to educate people. It's not important when people in the same circles are sharing information.

August 8, 2016 - 15:06

Jose Gonzalez

So I guess the media hardly covered the Green PNC at all despite all the cameras and reporters I saw there? I don't even see anything from Democracy Now! or TYT.

August 8, 2016 - 16:07

Hunter Martinez

jfc

August 8, 2016 - 16:57

Caleb James

I would think those problems go hand-in-hand.

August 8, 2016 - 17:07

Jacob Jones

We might have an easier time feeding and educating if we didn't spend over 50% of our discretionary budget on the military.

August 8, 2016 - 17:21

Jeremiah Murphy

Nope, if we stopped spending money on the military the money just wouldn't be spent, in fact more children would go starving since military families would be out of work and there'd be less educational spending because there'd be no GI Bill recipients. There's no such thing as opportunity cost when you're talking about the federal government, they create money out of nothing. They could feed and educate everyone in the world and spend boatloads on the military and be fine.

August 8, 2016 - 17:26

Nathaniel Perry

thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/08/08/nambla-becomes-donald-trump-s-birther-moment.html#?

TRUMP CONFIRMED KIDDY DIDDLER

Holla Forums was right again!

August 8, 2016 - 17:27

Jayden Ramirez

Which part of the military? I don't care about the profits of contractors

August 8, 2016 - 17:46

Carson Cooper

I would expand the military massively to put a dent in unemployment, and systematically cut every contractor out of the picture possible

August 8, 2016 - 17:50

Brayden Hughes

>wnd.com/2016/08/communist-party-unites-behind-hillary/
What went wrong? the demsocs are more principled than them

August 8, 2016 - 17:52

Cooper Sullivan

The deficit (fake spending) is big, but it isn't actually that big. The last budget was $3.9T spending, $3.249T taxes, leaving only $438.9B (11% of spending) deficit-funded.

Your basic point about free money on demand is mostly true, though, since T-Bills already have negative real interest.

August 8, 2016 - 18:30

Zachary Campbell

Yeah, think of the kids. Feed the military contractors on the backs of the souls in Iraq and Afghanistan.

August 8, 2016 - 18:34

Austin Myers

So is this a white noise machine or a wifi antenna?

August 8, 2016 - 18:35

Isaac Ward

it's a dry-erase board for very tall children

August 8, 2016 - 18:39

Parker Johnson

...

August 8, 2016 - 18:39

Samuel Robinson

Standing by your principles matters squat when you won't get a President that will further your goals.

August 8, 2016 - 18:39

Gavin Howard

How much is the life of an Afghani in hellfire missiles? How is U.S. military spending ever defensible.

August 8, 2016 - 18:47

Alexander Jones

the US doesn't spend more than 50 billion in any specific military area

you guys forget it's split between the army, navy, coast guard, air force, marines, etc

like the army uses 50 billion for upkeep which isn't a whole lot

August 8, 2016 - 18:53

Parker Butler

In principle, it makes obvious sense to maintain some kind of (preferably non-permanent IMHO) defensive guard and minor deterrent conventional projection capability, even in this age of nuclear superpowers.

On a more concrete level, there must be some way of using the vast riches of modern civilization, especially as one of the wealthiest nations on earth, to form an effective humanitarian international police force in concert with universal law.

In terms of the historical record, while there are many interventions I personally feel were overall justified, I admit both that there are legitimate grounds to question the benevolence and/or competence of every single one, and that the overwhelming majority were very clearly unjustifiable.

August 8, 2016 - 19:24

Christian Perez

jacobinmag.com/2016/08/bernie-sanders-black-voters-adolph-reed-trump-hillary/
B████ ██████ and the New Class Politics

August 8, 2016 - 20:39

Chase Davis

You should be embarrassed. That's a shitty CTR meme.

August 8, 2016 - 21:36

Ryan Peterson

It's definitely no wifi antenna I've ever seen. If you look at expensive white noise machines, they look much closer to that than wifi.

August 8, 2016 - 21:38

Jeremiah Richardson

Wait.. Are you saying Hillary would further those principles?

August 8, 2016 - 21:40

Alexander Cook

I am sure that is not what he means comrade. Chill.

August 8, 2016 - 21:56

Isaac Cooper

Ok. I really need sleep, as usual.

Also nice trips.

August 8, 2016 - 22:27

Joseph Hill

Holy shit it's real.

twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/762410247918981123

It sounds like a fucking joke and it's not.

I've never been so disappointingly infuriated in my life.

August 8, 2016 - 22:31

Jordan Baker

I smell a spook

August 8, 2016 - 22:39

Leo Barnes

just seems like a turn of phrase to me.

August 8, 2016 - 22:42

Jayden Lewis

Creating, agreeing on, and enforcing rules universally is fine, just as long as you remember they exist because you want them to.

August 9, 2016 - 00:03

Benjamin Morris

What's the problem?

August 9, 2016 - 00:04

Lucas Hughes

Sadly, this is a good summary of how the elephant in the room is addressed.

The executive government and its ideological enablers in Congress have run out of excuses, so:

August 9, 2016 - 00:28

Landon Bailey

We should go full Erithrea-mode and put everyone in the military.
No more unemployment.

August 9, 2016 - 01:07

Mason Cooper

...

August 9, 2016 - 01:40

Landon Davis

mobile.twitter.com/HillsMedRecords

August 9, 2016 - 01:41

Adam Harris

wsws.org/en/articles/2016/08/09/pers-a09.html

9 August 2016

August 9, 2016 - 01:46

Anthony Robinson

...

August 9, 2016 - 01:47

Nathaniel Walker

Patrick Martin

August 9, 2016 - 01:47

Andrew Garcia

"And we have the secretly recorded cell phone conversations to prove it."

August 9, 2016 - 02:21

Luis King

fuck that was deleted quickly.

August 9, 2016 - 02:26

Julian Foster

spooky

August 9, 2016 - 02:27

John Bell

it may just be the owner of the account self-deleting to make the faked leaks more convincing. Holla Forumstards have been known to do more elaborate shit for hoaxes.

August 9, 2016 - 02:28

Logan Hughes

That would be my first guess. Hillary's medical records just appearing on the internet seems too good to be true.

August 9, 2016 - 02:30

Isaac Reed

cache is still up.

webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:A3P6yJ5SZLIJ:https://twitter.com/hillsmedrecords &cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&client=firefox-b

August 9, 2016 - 02:34

Bentley Lopez

Now this is spin.

August 9, 2016 - 03:12

Eli Rodriguez

you guys are misinterpreting this. he means direct funds towards children rather than military. it's a poorly worded tweet probably not done by him personally.

twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/762381636658876416

Here is proof in another confusing tweet.

August 9, 2016 - 05:23

Lincoln Gutierrez

B-But, if we don't spend $600 billion a year in military spendings, how do we stop the terrorists from killing our children?

August 9, 2016 - 05:38

Owen Gutierrez

what did he mean by this?

August 9, 2016 - 10:08

Ryan Turner

She's not going to be on the ballot in most states, is she?

August 9, 2016 - 10:25

Adam Campbell

No idea, but I'm also curious about who killed him.
Maybe he's also wondering if there was a connection to Hillary.

August 9, 2016 - 10:26

Samuel Evans

Which implies that people universally want them.

August 9, 2016 - 10:30

Lincoln Cook

B████ ██████ Pays $600,000 For New Summer Vacation Home

The former presidential nominee purchased a spacious four-bedroom home with 500 feet of beachfront on Lake Champlain that his family plans to use seasonally.

“We’ve traveled up to the islands many times over the years — almost always on day trips,” Jane S█████ said in a statement.

“We’ve been impressed with the North Hero community, eaten at the North Hero House and Shore Acres and have suggested them to friends who were looking for a beautiful place to stay or have dinner. St. Anne’s Shrine in Isle La Motte is my favorite church and it is nearby.”

dailycaller.com/2016/08/09/bernie-sanders-just-paid-an-unbelievable-amount-of-money-for-a-summer-vacation-home/

August 9, 2016 - 14:29

Austin Cooper

a socialist bought a house?? check mate commies hahaha!!!

August 9, 2016 - 14:31

Charles Cook

theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/09/trump-gun-owners-clinton-judges-second-amendment
Trump implys that some of his supporters should stop Shillary with the second amendment.

August 9, 2016 - 14:35

Thomas Peterson

That's great news TBH. Unfortunately, it's a bit late for a Trumpenprole to kill Hillary and get B████ elected.

August 9, 2016 - 14:43

Jason Davis

Bernie was not a socialist and he isn't even relevant anymore. It's time to move on.

August 9, 2016 - 14:47

Michael Mitchell

The number at the convention a few days ago was over 30 if I remember right.

August 9, 2016 - 15:47

Matthew Ross

Not sure if a decline into chaos would be an opportunity or not. If it happened, things would probably break down along fascist and liberal factions.

August 9, 2016 - 16:29

Josiah Allen

Yeah, it's really poorly worded. He was being sarcastic about "worrying about the military-industrial complex." It's understandable why people would easily misinterpret that because they view him as a betrayer for endorsing Clinton.

August 9, 2016 - 18:59

Luis Nelson

gay

August 9, 2016 - 21:24

Jacob Howard

Jill Stein debates Fox & Friends over foreign policy

youtube.com/watch?v=NmYfgrSJeec

August 9, 2016 - 21:43

Christopher Gonzalez

does she say anything substantial? Israel policy, Saudi Arabia, Turkish ethnic cleansing, Yemen…?

August 9, 2016 - 21:46

Noah Reyes

It's going up!

August 9, 2016 - 21:49

Liam Miller

This interview was pure gold. That Tucker guy uses the lamest bait ever telling Jill why she denounces Isreal but not Cuba.

She responds that we don't give millions to Cuba.

August 9, 2016 - 22:01

Alexander Phillips

I like her. She has more balls than B████

August 9, 2016 - 22:05

Jayden Cox

Gotta love that irrelevant Cuba question out of nowhere

August 9, 2016 - 22:06

Henry Hill

Tucker Carlson has always been a tard. At least he got rid of that gay bow tie he used to wear.

Reminds me of the Jon Stewart debacle back in the day. Tucker got his ass handed to him. It was on Crossfire, I believe.

August 9, 2016 - 22:06

Landon Smith

Is that the one where he called him a hack?

August 9, 2016 - 22:12

Jeremiah Flores

Yeah, I found it
youtube.com/watch?v=aFQFB5YpDZE

August 9, 2016 - 22:14

Dominic Price

all of that Lyin' is taking a toll.

August 9, 2016 - 22:56

Daniel Torres

even if this is fake, its obvious she has issues

August 9, 2016 - 23:08

Levi Brown

wsws.org/en/articles/2016/08/10/trum-a10.html

By Patrick Martin
10 August 2016

August 10, 2016 - 02:05

Justin Rodriguez

...

August 10, 2016 - 02:06

Jackson Ramirez

but trump is actually for the working class guys no for real

August 10, 2016 - 02:12

Kayden Ward

Classes are a social construct.
Actually there is only one class: the human class.

August 10, 2016 - 02:49

Jace Cooper

If the socially necessary time was 2 hours then…… Karl tried to sell his commodity for higher than his value. He should've known better

August 10, 2016 - 03:16

Caleb Long

Wow that pic, way to misunderstand what socially useful labour time is.

If sex were a job like in that pic, and it took you 6 hours to make lousy sex, when the typical man could make acceptable sex in 1. You would only be paid for 1 hour if the end product was even acceptable.

August 10, 2016 - 03:21

Landon Morris

Have you fuckers seen this?

CLINTON FOUNDATION COLLUSION WITH STATE DEPARTMENT CONFIRMED
The State Department has released emails in response to a FOIA request from Judicial Watch showing collusion with the Clinton Foundation, including some emails Hillary failed to turn over to the FBI.

New York Times
archive.is/qV9zq

Wall Street Journal
archive.is/6szxw

Direct link to the documents from Judicial Watch
judicialwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/JW-v-State-Abedin-production-9-00684-2.pdf?D=1

IT KEEPS HAPPENING
They warned you about emails bro. They told you dog.

August 10, 2016 - 05:24

Camden Bell

this kills the campaignhopefully

August 10, 2016 - 06:02

Ryan Thompson

I honestly believe nothing will stop her, but I hope it does.

August 10, 2016 - 06:27

Matthew Rodriguez

Israel is going to have her assassinated if she ever gets too close to power.

August 10, 2016 - 06:45

Joshua Rogers

Nothing will stop her. Trump is too perfect an opponent. Groups are falling in behind her just to prevent Trump from winning. That's really the only reason she has a chance. If she was running against a run-of-the-mill Republican like Romney, she'd be history by now.

August 10, 2016 - 07:55

Kayden Lewis

I used to think this too, but the vibe I'm getting from the media is that this is a bridge too far even for them.

August 10, 2016 - 08:19

Daniel Brooks

Yeah, I saw CNN covering some negative Clinton story a few days ago. I forget what it was though. I was just kind of shocked that they showed anything that put her in a negative light.

Maybe the media are afraid that people who see what they're doing might start some shit.

August 10, 2016 - 08:28

Asher Hill

At the very minimum it's made a wide whole for 3rd parties candidates to gain traction.

August 10, 2016 - 08:29

Ethan Kelly

Everyone knows she's shit, but they really have little choice in the matter. It's either her or the orange.

There's going to be hell to pay after this election season.

In other news, B████ ██████ is trying to raise money for Tim Canova to defeat DWS. If you're disgusted with Hillary, losing Debbie would definitely be a black eye for her.

They won't gain much this election, but it's paving the way for the future. This election is going to seriously damage the two-party system.

August 10, 2016 - 08:33

Dominic Wood

More like we will get Greens vs. Libertarians instead of Democrats vs. Republicans. Don't get me wrong, that's less bad but it's still bad. At least then the public debate would be capitalism vs. anti-capitalism

August 10, 2016 - 08:48

Tyler Walker

>strident economic nationalism […] waging trade war against economic rivals of American capitalism […] trade unions and the Democratic Party, which have long specialized in the type of nationalistic demagogy in which Trump is now outbidding them […] Trump rants and raves against China and Mexico, he is only following in the well-worn trail blazed by the AFL-CIO unions, and particularly the United Auto Workers and United Steelworkers, as well as Democratic Party politicians like B████ ██████ and Hillary Clinton.
Pick a side, you disingenuous little shits! I absolutely despise this sort of hypocritical attack-dog rhetoric, where partisan hacks tick off every imaginable point against their target, regardless of whether the resulting "critique" is actually coherent if taken in whole.

Are you kidding? Lolberts utterly personify the neoliberal ideology that has been hiding behind inane idpol in the Republican and Democratic parties alike since the '70s. Having that out in the open would be the greatest imaginable boon to American political discourse.

August 10, 2016 - 10:19

John Miller

>strident economic nationalism […] waging trade war against economic rivals of American capitalism […] trade unions and the Democratic Party, which have long specialized in the type of nationalistic demagogy in which Trump is now outbidding them […] Trump rants and raves against China and Mexico, he is only following in the well-worn trail blazed by the AFL-CIO unions, and particularly the United Auto Workers and United Steelworkers, as well as Democratic Party politicians like B████ ██████ and Hillary Clinton.
Pick a side, you disingenuous little shits! I absolutely despise this sort of hypocritical attack-dog rhetoric, where partisan hacks tick off every imaginable point against their target, regardless of how incoherent the resulting "critique" actually is if taken in whole.

Are you kidding? Lolberts utterly personify the neoliberal ideology that has been hiding behind inane idpol in the Republican and Democratic parties alike since the '70s. Having that out in the open would be the greatest imaginable boon to American political discourse.

August 10, 2016 - 10:23

Jose Davis

Julian Assange hints that murdered DNC staffer Seth Rich was the source of the DNC leaks

youtube.com/watch?v=Kp7FkLBRpKg

This was supposedly a robbery, but nothing was taken.

August 10, 2016 - 10:26

Jace Cooper

Maybe you misunderstand what I meant. Greens vs. Lolberts would be one of the best possible outcomes, but we'd still be in a two party system that's full of all kinds of other bullshit and it comes with all the baggage. The Greens would likely start adopting bad policies and the Lolberts good policies, because of porky's influence muddying the waters.

August 10, 2016 - 10:30

Gabriel Cox

what the fug are you talking about

August 10, 2016 - 10:31

Jordan James

Wasn't he shot twice in the back too? I mean, I guess it's possible a robbee would run from a robber, but that's also suspicious.

August 10, 2016 - 10:31

Brody James

What in the fuck are you testing, retard? We can see the time you posted that twice.

August 10, 2016 - 10:38

Colton Wilson

are you new or what

August 10, 2016 - 10:38

Logan Myers

How might this be done though? The Greens don't take corporate donations.

August 10, 2016 - 11:04

Jace Green

Seems like reading into things to me.

August 10, 2016 - 11:07

Isaiah Sanchez

The article decries the vile effects of neoliberalism, but also smears every possible form of the protectionism necessary to actually kill neoliberalism as icky pooey nationalism.

It stalled when I posted for several minutes. There were actually a few times when certain text strings wouldn't post, but others would, a couple months ago.

August 10, 2016 - 11:18

Christian Diaz

...

August 10, 2016 - 11:23

Gavin Lopez

both are shit. protectionism is just as shit as neoliberalism because they both pit international workers against each other.

their "side" is against capitalism itself, not a particular flavor of it.

August 10, 2016 - 11:36

Austin Jones

Even if Seth Rich wasn't the leaker it wouldn't be unreasonable to at least take notice of the otherwise inexplicable murder of this DNC staffer right at the time that significant materials get leaked by some anonymous source. Not to mention all the other people that have """""""mysteriously""""""" died around the clintons when this sort of thing happens

August 10, 2016 - 11:40

Hunter Gutierrez

Their kinda like a mafia. Hell, wasn't there a documentary linking them to one?

August 10, 2016 - 11:45

Gavin Anderson

archive.is/CWQYC

August 10, 2016 - 13:06

Ayden Gonzalez

...

August 10, 2016 - 13:10

Parker Butler

Am I the only one who finds Clintonite Cultists just infuriating? They're just so evil, so delusional, so self-righteous, and so smug.

August 10, 2016 - 13:22

Gabriel Taylor

This level of despair makes me actually afraid.

If everyone says "fuck it, it's rigged", Debbie will win, which will embolden Hillary and the Neoliberals. S█████ and his supporters are going to be seen as nothing but paper tigers like OWS and we'll descend right back into the corrupt establishment politics that got us in this mess.

Not voting in the Congressional primaries is supporting the DNC.

August 10, 2016 - 13:27

Wyatt Butler

Most elections are rigged, but we can overcome it if we vote enough. The establishment benefits from apathy. It's so hard not to be apathetic sometimes, but it's worth it to at least try.

If our votes & selves truly didn't matter, they wouldn't spend so much time & money trying to influence our opinion. Even if it's rigged, public opinion can have consequences for them.

August 10, 2016 - 13:34

Jeremiah Gonzalez

You're not the only one. Makes me wish we had gulags. Purposely manipulating the public is the worst.

August 10, 2016 - 13:35

Jack Garcia

I volunteered for the S█████ campaign while being aware of election fraud. My effort didn't overcome the election fraud, so I don't know what I'm supposed to do instead of despair. I don't live in Florida so it's not like I can petition the government directly.

August 10, 2016 - 13:37

Christian Mitchell

Exactly. If it was completely rigged, S█████ wouldn't have walked away with just under HALF of the Democratic vote. The key is getting more people out to vote. S█████' campaign did that effectively despite them throwing roadblocks against them.

This primary is incredibly important. We've got to get rid of Debbie once and for all. We must have justice.

August 10, 2016 - 13:58

Dominic Wilson

I always have to remind myself of this when I feel down about the election.

August 10, 2016 - 14:39

Camden Thompson

trumps working class support is greatly over exaggerated
fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-mythology-of-trumps-working-class-support/

August 10, 2016 - 15:10

William Ward

Psyops are very real, for this reason. CTR is a good current example of this, as well.

If you control public opinion, you control the people more easily.

August 10, 2016 - 15:35

Ayden Carter

aljazeera.com/news/2016/08/vote-fraud-allegations-prompt-calls-transparency-160809163946753.html
US election fraud allegations prompt calls for reform

August 10, 2016 - 15:38

Julian Evans

...

August 10, 2016 - 15:39

Blake Brown

are you fucking kidding me

August 10, 2016 - 15:44

Blake Phillips

From CTR's lips to God's ears.

August 10, 2016 - 15:53

Grayson Peterson

Didn't Jimmy Carter say something about the reason the Carter Center doesn't monitor elections is because the US fails to meet international standards or something like that?

August 10, 2016 - 15:56

Josiah Roberts

In that regard, I believe Hillary is living on borrowed time. Once Trump is defeated, it's going to be all out war against her and the establishment. He approval ratings alone confirm that.

August 10, 2016 - 15:57

Michael Morales

...

August 10, 2016 - 16:01

Zachary Thompson

the-american-interest.com/2015/10/10/electoral-integrity/

somewhat related

August 10, 2016 - 16:04

Kayden Price

...

August 10, 2016 - 16:12

Jordan Smith

youtube.com/watch?v=fBbW7UnJlyQ

August 10, 2016 - 17:50

Blake Clark

miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/election/article94864882.html

Nice. I'm glad the fire still berns.

It's still a long ways from over though. Florida is a major retiree community and the Broward/Miami-Dade county only gave Birdie around 25% of the vote. I hope they have a good plan.

August 10, 2016 - 17:53

Hudson Hernandez

Is this fuckwad for real?

August 10, 2016 - 17:58

Aaron Bennett

That is an absurd, contrarian position. Protectionism isn't "pitting international workers against each other", it's passing laws in your nation against sweatshop labor, and refusing to compete with exporters who intentionally undermine your laws from abroad.

Protectionism is simply rule of law in the context of international trade. Nothing more, nothing less.

It's vacuously true protectionism wouldn't be necessary after complete world revolution, but the same is true of any condition of legal harmony. Opposing protectionism because it's only necessary as long as capitalism exists somewhere on earth is little different from opposing the global abolition of slavery for the same reason.

There are already lawsuits underway, from organizations like TrustVote and Election Justice. You're right that S█████ himself doesn't seem to be backing them, unfortunately.

I wish this didn't keep going back to calls for paper ballots. Even the simplest public-private key encryption system using individual hardware key generators for each voter would be practically impossible to meddle with, and remove many other sources of corruption related to the slowness and massive numbers of personnel involved in typical votes today, not to mention saving a lot of money. The technology necessary dates from the 1980s.

We can win the war, even if we lost this battle.

August 10, 2016 - 20:09

Levi Bennett

THE PLOT THICKENS

August 10, 2016 - 20:37

Angel Carter

lol rule of law

rules made by the bourgeoisie for the benefit of the bourgeoisie

and that's all protectionism is, pitting the global proletariat against each other for the benefit of the national bourgeoisie

gtfo pseudoleftist scum

August 10, 2016 - 20:38

Julian Barnes

And globalism is better by pitting the global proleteriat against each other for the benefit of the global bourgeoisie?

If I have to get fucked in the ass, I hope it's at least by someone from the same country, not some Russian-Jewish billionaire in New York

August 10, 2016 - 20:44

Gabriel Ramirez

They're the exact same thing you stupid fucker.

August 10, 2016 - 21:17

Josiah Moore

You comrades know it's just a joke poking fun at Karl's sex skills right?

==REEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

August 10, 2016 - 21:29

Jason Morgan

I was so angry I couldn't even
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
correctly.

August 10, 2016 - 21:30

Cameron Russell

Looks like snopes tried to call the doctor.

snopes.com/hillary-clinton-medical-records-leaked/

August 10, 2016 - 21:33

Austin Lewis

Trump Co-Chair: 'Trickle-Down Economics Has Actually Worked'

youtube.com/watch?v=Ctz0eJp9--s

Smells like the same old shit to me.

August 10, 2016 - 21:33

Aaron Wood

Thank you globalism!

August 10, 2016 - 21:56

Dylan Butler

Unless that was bait you're seriously saying that our laws (and the robust government institutions necessary to enforce them) such as those against debt bondage, child labor, hazardous working conditions, unpaid overtime, hazardous consumer goods, inadequate living conditions are "made by the bourgeoisie for the benefit of the bourgeoisie". By that definition, socialism itself falls under the same exact description. 8/10, too flip to sound entirely serious, but I've heard very similar arguments elsewhere.

August 10, 2016 - 22:49

Grayson Jackson

I think it's very unlikely historical 3rd-parties like greens/lolberts would come into any significant power without also immediately abolishing FPTP voting wherever they could. Everywhere that switched to PR, from the tiniest city council, clear up to the federal constitution itself, the two-party system FPTP protects would be permanently destroyed.

August 10, 2016 - 23:13

Owen Powell

wsws.org/en/articles/2016/08/11/emai-a11.html

By Evan Blake
11 August 2016

>Ten minutes later, Band forwarded the email to Abedin and Mills, writing, “Important to take care of _,” to which Abedin immediately replied, “We have all had him on our radar. Personnel has been sending him options.”

August 11, 2016 - 05:24

Matthew Martinez

>Abedin replied, “Its jeff feltman. I'm sure he knows him. I'll talk to jeff,” referring to Jeffrey Feltman, the American ambassador to Lebanon at the time. Band quickly responded, “Better if you call him. Now preferable. This is very important. ____ He's awake I'm sure.”

August 11, 2016 - 05:25

Oliver Jones

He's got bigger things on his plate right now than digging up corpses. He has to stay the fuck away from the presidential election if he wants to keep his movement growing.

August 11, 2016 - 11:10

Christopher Moore

Democracy is terrible. Demagogues are terrible.

August 11, 2016 - 13:29

Cooper Anderson

But fixing the crooked electoral system would help enormously in downballot contests. He does, at least, seem to be targeting key figures in the rigging machine, like DWS.

August 11, 2016 - 14:06

Josiah Kelly

Paper ballots are important when the electronic voting machine companies themselves are corrupt. It doesn't matter how secure the system is if it has a built-in rigging process.

August 11, 2016 - 14:18

Adrian Thompson

I wish we had democracy…

August 11, 2016 - 14:32

Jeremiah Hernandez

Yes, but going after potential voter fraud could bring up the Democratic primary again, which will hurt his agenda. He doesn't need to be seen as a radical sore loser when he's trying to reform the system.

It's best for him to let sleeping dogs lie for the time being and focus on taking over congress. If his candidates can win their primaries, the Democrats will have no choice but to support them or risk Republican domination.

August 11, 2016 - 15:19

Adrian King

...

August 11, 2016 - 15:58

Chase Flores

The media has been against him since day one. I would him rather bring it up and be demonized like "Bernie bros" than ignore it.

August 11, 2016 - 17:05

Caleb Moore

jacobinmag.com/2016/08/atlantic-city-trump-icahn-union-strike-bankruptcy/
Jacobin on the Trump Strike in Atlantic City

August 11, 2016 - 20:47

Benjamin Rodriguez

It is ludicrously simple to produce cryptographically signed electronic receipts for voters to verify their results with. The only plausible problem is the possibility of vote-buying, which wouldn't be any worse than postal ballots.

August 11, 2016 - 22:48

Caleb Lee

theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/12/donald-trump-obama-isis-founder-sarcasm

August 12, 2016 - 13:24

Anthony Howard

Pollyps will literally defend this

August 12, 2016 - 13:29

Jose Thomas

None of that had anything to do with working class. Income brackets =/= class

August 12, 2016 - 14:37

Jose Reed

replace the handgun with a nagant revolver and the mp40 with a PPS-43

August 12, 2016 - 14:40

Tyler Myers

I can't stand how smug and combative those interviewers are.

I'm sure there was a follow-up question or statement about Socialism. They were probably upset they didn't have time to use it.

August 12, 2016 - 14:52

William Mitchell

Why does everyone say Trump has this really obscure and thought out master plan? He's not stupid when it comes to business, but he does say a lot of shit and then either tries to retract it or justify it.

Then his cultists will say a lot of shit in his defense. Then everyone plays it off like he just smugly meant to do everything.

August 12, 2016 - 16:41

Liam Brown

desperate polacks trying to defend their husbando

August 12, 2016 - 17:04

Hudson Kelly

They actually do.
I went there because I'm a masochist.
They thought I was being very triggering and excellent when I brought up.
Also, they defend it by using this guy
businessinsider.com/scott-adams-donald-trump-is-a-clown-genius-2015-8

August 12, 2016 - 17:37

Blake Barnes

Stick a fork in her. She's done.

dailycaller.com/2016/08/11/exclusive-joint-fbi-us-attorney-probe-of-clinton-foundation-is-underway/

Watch Clinton Cash, this investigation is going to uncover so many of her skeletons.

August 12, 2016 - 18:55

Nicholas Nguyen

Adams has been studying the difference between baffling bullshit versus actual argumentation for ages. Trump isn't doing 6D chess by any stretch of the imagination, but he is a master of shameless rhetorical bullshit.

August 12, 2016 - 19:36

Dylan Wood

So Jill Stein was finally on NPR a couple days ago:

wbur.org/onpoint/2016/08/10/green-party-nominee-dr-jill-stein

August 12, 2016 - 19:41

Easton Gray

Obama controls the FBI. Do you honestly think he or the Democrats will allow Hilary to get in trouble?

August 12, 2016 - 19:50

Jacob Carter

Adams is an idiot who actually thinks Trump wrote "Art of the Deal".

He wouldn't be able to tell the difference between an actual moron running for president and genius Trump. I wish he'd stick to drawing his Wage-Slavebert cartoon.

August 12, 2016 - 19:57

Isaac Evans

Don't play with my emotions, user.

I did know about this probe before. I hope someone with any amount of integrity is on the investigative team.

August 12, 2016 - 20:14

Nathaniel Anderson

Hillary barely escaped persecution with the e-mail scandal. Hill dog is powerful but she's still beholden to nature laws like gravity or the law of averages.

There is only so many bodies you can bury my ninja.

August 12, 2016 - 20:25

Sebastian Gonzalez

To the Democrat elites the stakes are too high to let Hillary be damaged (if not convicted) by such an investigation. The investigation is going to get leaned on by Obama, and the MSM will justify it with the "Well, she was against Trump okay! Price of freedoms :DDD"

August 12, 2016 - 20:30

Oliver Foster

Not the person you're replying to, but I do agree that's what the dems will try. However there's a lot of right wingers in power against her, too. This is the one thing I agree with them on, and I hope they finally nail her.

At least there's some in power against her.

August 12, 2016 - 20:34

Nathan Cook

My ninja, Hillary isn't just a little corrupt. Watch Clinton Cash on YouTube. This woman will literally do anything for money.

Just looking in the direction of the Clinton Foundation is going to make all these skeletons come tumbling out.

If she was so untouchable why are they doing the investigation in the first place.

August 12, 2016 - 20:34

Logan Collins

I used to love Dilbert, I had no idea Adams was such a lolbert.

August 12, 2016 - 20:38

Chase Moore

Usually once the public starts to hate someone for their corruption, as much as we hate Hillary, others in power start to distance themselves for votes. I hope that happens. I think we're on our way at least.

August 12, 2016 - 20:38

Anthony Ortiz

Did you just watch a Die Antwoord video?

August 12, 2016 - 20:41

Camden Russell

Oh she's corrupt, I have no doubt (I've read Clinton Cash as well).

Like with every other scandal she's faced - they'll find yet another way to handwave it and make it appear as if it's just another witch hunt by tinfoiler kkkonservatives that just can't handle a powerful womyn, let alone one that might become president.

There'll be a partial admission of error on her part, a few Clinton Foundation members will be forced to fall on their swords, and then it will be swept under the rug.

August 12, 2016 - 20:42

Ian Johnson

You've basically accepted that you're getting fucked in the ass.

August 12, 2016 - 21:00

Cameron Gonzalez

Killer Mike comes out against Trump and Clinton, says that the two of them are the same
vice.com/read/killer-mike-trump-hillary-clinton-voting-vgtrn?utm_source=vicetwitterus
cbsnews.com/news/killer-mike-says-donald-trump-and-hillary-clinton-are-exactly-the-same/

August 12, 2016 - 22:13

William Mitchell

At this point why would you want her to go down?

The DNC is VERY unlikely to pick B████ and unlike some of the posters here I see nothing good coming from a Trump presidency.

August 12, 2016 - 22:31

Jaxon Barnes

CTR plz die

August 12, 2016 - 22:37

Noah Price

Rappers are seriously based, they know more than anyone else what it's like to work hard but still be looked down on.

August 12, 2016 - 22:38

Benjamin Carter

clinton is just that unlikable.
Any true leftist knows she is center right neoliberal warhawk.

Cornel west who was one of the few black people to criticize obama from the left is voting green party after B████ went bust

August 12, 2016 - 22:55

Jack Bailey

Depends on which rapper you're talking about. Emenem is very talented but the things he raps about might as well be coming out of a Holla Forumsyp.

August 12, 2016 - 23:06

Ian Diaz

...

August 12, 2016 - 23:07

Anthony Sanders

I'm honestly instantly suspicious of any documentary that feels the need to use language like "nefarious" constantly.

August 12, 2016 - 23:26

Robert Campbell

Nigga what the fuck you talking about

August 12, 2016 - 23:31

Sebastian Roberts

Well, tbf it's referencing the Clintons.

August 12, 2016 - 23:33

Adrian Reed

*sigh* CTR pls.

August 12, 2016 - 23:43

Nicholas Kelly

The homophobic and woman hater themes on all of his albums.

Spare me the whole they're allegory because Dre told him to put them in there knowing full well his fan base would enjoyment for their face value meaning.

August 12, 2016 - 23:48

Andrew King

I probably hate Clinton and her scummy followers far more than you do, yet I'm "CTR" for pointing out the reality of the situation?

What do you honestly expect to happen? For Jill Stein to get a massive boost if Clinton gets indicted? For the DNC to nominate B████?

The fact is Trump and Clinton are practically the same, but under a Trump presidency the Democrats can still play the sainted Resistance while blaming those evil sexist B████ Bros for everything Mr. Tiny Hands does.

Under Clinton they'll have no choice but to pull off the mask and reveal what shitty neoliberals they really are.

August 12, 2016 - 23:52

Ian Peterson

Sh. It's ok. Don't cry.

August 12, 2016 - 23:55

Jayden Edwards

Yes, Hillary has the second highest disapproval ratings of any candidate in modern history, second only to Trump.

There is a white hot desire for an alternative, I see no reason why that couldn't be Stein.

August 12, 2016 - 23:55

Bentley Brooks

lmao
Slim Shady isn't fucking Eminem you dipshit. Yes it's what got him famous because it's what people wanted to listen to but that's not really relevant and he barely even uses Slim Shady any more and it's been lke that for more than 10 years.

August 13, 2016 - 00:00

Joseph Torres

...

August 13, 2016 - 00:05

Henry Lopez

kek

August 13, 2016 - 00:08

Jonathan Hughes

[spoiler] Let's post gifs of cute Thai-
stopmotion head-patting to dismiss CTR shills. [/spoiler]

August 13, 2016 - 00:11

Nathaniel Fisher

Damn guy, you're not helping yourself not look like CTR.

Because Obama totally did, right?

August 13, 2016 - 00:12

Easton Foster

No it's not fucking relevant to who he is as a person. Don't be a homofag.

August 13, 2016 - 00:14

Brody Nguyen

Do you think video games cause violence, too?

August 13, 2016 - 00:20

Sebastian Ross

...

August 13, 2016 - 00:24

Asher Phillips

Killer Mike 2020

August 13, 2016 - 05:50

John Bailey

wsws.org/en/articles/2016/08/13/taxe-a13.html

By Patrick Martin
13 August 2016

August 13, 2016 - 05:55

Julian Price

...

August 13, 2016 - 05:55

Jose Martin

HNNNNGGGG so cute :3

August 13, 2016 - 06:36

Anthony Young

theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/aug/13/trump-clinton-election-chances-moderate-policies-economy
With Trump certain to lose, you can forget about a progressive Clinton

August 13, 2016 - 14:21

Anthony Cox

...

August 13, 2016 - 14:22

Ryder Perez

Democratic split imminent.

August 13, 2016 - 14:30

Robert Brown

I already de registered as a democrat and re registered as a green

August 13, 2016 - 14:53

Connor Morris

Wew. This almost makes me want to vote Trump. At least just to stick it too Shillary. Still sticking with Stein though.

August 13, 2016 - 15:10

Jaxon Evans

Never really expected a "progressive" Clinton, tbh

August 13, 2016 - 15:22

Aaron Wright

Guess this really is Holla Forums

August 13, 2016 - 15:51

Chase Brooks

There are legit paid CTR shills on here and other places. Don't be surprised. People can be paranoid too.

August 13, 2016 - 15:58

Colton Garcia

I am sorry on behalf of me and the other comrades if you thought we were too harsh on you. But you do understand why we were a little skeptical, no?

August 13, 2016 - 16:19

Angel Carter

Nah. I just don't see why you'd want her to be taken down by the FBI. The fact is she's incredibly toxic and is driving people from the Democratic Party in droves. I mean the woman had less charisma than a 40-year veteran of the DMV, and that was when she still had control of all her mental facilities. If Clinton goes down, they can pretend it's all over, the cancer is gone, and pick some charismatic stooge to take her place.

To put it simply: Clinton is the biggest anchor weighing down the sinking neoliberal ship that is the Democratic Party. Why would you want them to cut her loose?

Of course this all ignores the fact that the FBI would never punish Clinton in any serious manner unless the bourgeoisie had a great deal of faith in Trump, which is a terrifying thought in and of itself.

August 13, 2016 - 16:41

Thomas Thomas

Guccifer 2.0 censored by Twitter

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/764472143346270208

August 13, 2016 - 16:51

Aiden Foster

The Democrats don't have enough public support to actually pull this off without destroying their own party. Just because the polls favor Hillary over Trump doesn't mean the people actually like that she-bitch.

I kind of want them to try this just to watch it blow up in the face.

August 13, 2016 - 19:15

Thomas Johnson

Fuck I need to double time it on learning how to setup media goblin.

August 13, 2016 - 20:02

Ryan Lee

the leak was pretty funny. especallty this part.

"VULNERABILITIES (SELF) RESEARCH
Perkins (Primary)
Randy Perkins has donated $1.6 million to Republicans, including Rick Scott, Rick Perry, and Mitt
Romney, and he raised money for John McCain
Perkins only registered as a Democrat shortly before deciding to run for office
Perkins’ foundation, 4 Girls Foundation, has donated money to Heartbeat of Miami and Respect Life
Ministry, two Florida organizations that operate crisis pregnancy centers that encourage pregnant
women not to get abortions

Perkins (General)
Randy Perkins’ company, Ashbritt, has a history of donating to politicians and winning bids, despite
charging the highest rate for its work and being accused of doing substandard work
Perkins’ company, Ashbritt, was awarded a $25 million contract in Broward County, but audits show
that the company cheated the school board in Broward County out of nearly $800,000 dollars
Ashbritt accused of doing poor quality work on a profitable $500 million contract to clean up after
Hurricane Katrina
Perkins has been sued by contractors for non-payment

Chane
When the housing crisis hit Florida in 2008, Chane made money as a foreclosure attorney for 13
different banks where he sued dozens of Palm Beach residents, forcing them out of their homes
As an attorney, Chane defended a big tobacco company that was found guilty of lying to Florida
families about the dangers of smoking, and Chane fought to keep the victims from getting money
they had been awarded by the courts in previous lawsuits

Marc Freeman
Feeman accepted a $200,000 check from a single individual which he was forced to
return because he did not know it was a violation of federal rules
Has pledged to spend at least $1 million of his own money in race
Supported flat tax
Said gay marriage is a sign we are going in the wrong direction
Supported a wall between the U.S. and Mexico, but logistics of moving 11 million out of
country a “non starter”
Said “no able-bodied person should be receiving government dough.”

Carl Domino
Supported “modified” flat tax

Brian Mast
Supported Fair Tax
Said Supreme Court did a disservice on King v. Burwell
Signed ATR Pledge

Rick Kozell
Supported flat tax
When asked if he would vote to raise debt limit, said he did not agree with “premise” of
question
Said government should not support Planned Parenthood
Said if gun ownership had been widespread in Europe’s Hitler, power wouldn’t have
spread so quickly
Conservative blog Shark Tank claimed that Kozell spread rumors stating Brian Mast was
“only running on his legs” which is why he often wore shorts to “exploit” his prosthetic
legs

Rebecca Negron
Indicated support for a Fair Tax but failed to state if plan would be revenue neutral
Supported getting rid of the Department of Education
Said she would not vote to raise debt limit"

August 14, 2016 - 06:10

Kevin Gray

*especially

August 14, 2016 - 06:10

Lincoln Gonzalez

I knew the Democraps were becoming more and more right wing, but seeing examples face to face has really rustled my jimmies.

August 14, 2016 - 08:31

Noah Cooper

So no one's mentioned the decisive moment of BLM's collapse yet? Milwaukee Cops pulled an *armed* Black man over in an open carry state, and the media is not mentioning the insignificant detail of what he was pulled over for.

He runs, doesn't drop his piece which the media has identified as a "handgun" with a large magazine with ~23 rounds inside, but with no other detail, and so the pigs shoot him. They then find out gun is stolen, and the media and Right bounce on that detail as if it's why he was stopped.

Shortly afterward, BLM puts out protest calls on social media and riots worse than Baltimore immediately follow. This is almost certainly BLM's undoing unless they can determine that the victim was pulled over for actually racist or bullshit reasons.

August 14, 2016 - 09:03

Christian Edwards

fuck off reactionary.

August 14, 2016 - 09:15

Bentley Fisher

Fuck off idpol.

August 14, 2016 - 09:18

Ian Miller

Update: Wisconsin doesn't allow open carry in vehicles. The media still reported neither the reason for the stop nor whether any occupant of the car openly carried.

August 14, 2016 - 09:35

Ethan Phillips

BLM bit the hand that feeds them. The police officers in Dallas were AFL-CIO members and guess who funds the Dem party? On one hand, it's nice to watch the workers seize power. But they're not normal workers, they're collaborators and enforcers for porky.

That said this does not bode well for the Democrats heading into November. Skewed polls aside, in previous years BLM types were securely Dem voters. This year they ain't. And the more riots they start, the more states that will get spooked and go GOP. If Wisconsin flips (a plausibility given Scott Walkers ascendancy) then Hilary has a huge problem getting to 270.

August 14, 2016 - 11:24

Gavin Roberts

this is the house bernard dropped 600k on apparently
twitter.com/LarryWebsite/status/763960396176773128

August 14, 2016 - 12:00

John Hughes

Terrible taste Bernard. smh.

August 14, 2016 - 12:05

Blake Thompson

it's a pretty nice cabin, but it's not bourgeois. Petite-bourgeois at most. It's basically like a Dacha. He has to have two other houses because he's a Senator: he literally lives in two different cities.

August 14, 2016 - 12:14

Carson Campbell

Because like it or not, a lot of the US sees her as "liberal" and "progressive". To the right-wing of america (which makes up a sizable portion of the population), she, like Obama, represents the Left. If she's elected and invariably fucks everything up it could ruin the strides America has made. Remember that the left is always teetering on power loss while the right is always the default because it is based on reactionary and tribal urges. Even after 8 years of the Bush-Cheney administration half of america still voted for republicans. Even after things got better under the Obama administration half of america voted for republicans. And now, a large portion of america will vote for Trump, just because he isn't an evil "liberal". If the next democrat fucks this up we could see 8 years of republicans regressing america again, they already have a house advantage and could very easily take the senate. Hillary is one of the most hated politicans in american history, and her being the face of the democrats is a game of russian roulette with all the chambers full.

August 14, 2016 - 12:27

Asher Wood

Yep, he's a lolbert mouthbreathing hack. Idk why anyone pays attention to what he says still.

August 14, 2016 - 14:10

Ian Jenkins

Update: archive.is/cYac2

Again, they refuse to identify the detailed reason for the stop.

And has embourgeoisement by joining the force.

After Chicago, they'll never release them.

He spent a day in jail for the weapons conviction and paid $443. If you're in the White parts of heavily-segregated Milwaukee, you're ignored by police for these convictions and charges, especially when they're dropped.

This means BLM will lose the Nazi masturbation fantasy that neoliberal idpol steered them into. Trump's polls will recover, he will win, and the working class and world will die in global warmth or nuclear fire unless the Right's "idea of America" loses in WWIII without a single nuke.

August 14, 2016 - 15:10

Wyatt Sanders

>Not Socialist not wordfiltered masturbation fantasy
I know it's usually Holla Forums that invokes [email protected]/* */ war$ by that term, but I use it because it's now more likely to happen than any genuine class war without a world conflict that fully discredits neoliberalism and American nationalism.

August 14, 2016 - 15:19

Carson White

Trump's polls don't need to recover. Notice how most polls quietly omit the "libertarian" aka GOP vote or bury it in the fine print somewhere.

I'm not endorsing Trump, but the MSM's total refusal to take him head-on is what allows him to win. Their shit polls aren't converting anyone and are only feeding the establishment's self-delusion. November is going to be very rough for them because they won't wake the fuck up and realize most people hate what the Dems have become.

A Nazi masturbation fantasy won't happen either, because the blacks lost. The most obvious example is Compton, CA. Back in 1980 it was over 95% black, today it's barely 38% due to hispanic immigration. BLM is the last gasp of their movement, not even the Democrats can be fucked to care about their vote anymore as hispanics are already a larger group than them.

August 14, 2016 - 15:45

Eli Bell

Uh, it's not Trump pushing for an apocalyptic confrontation with Putin's "Evil Empire"

August 14, 2016 - 15:47

Joseph Phillips

If blacks burning down Baltimore didn't stop BLM, I really don't know what will. Hell, look at how everyone tried to justify it as "righteous black rage against a system that oppresses them"

August 14, 2016 - 15:50

Wyatt Howard

Welp, looks like the Don is still a joke after all.

youtube.com/watch?v=kSE-XoVKaXg

I want him to win, so that America might possibly learn something.

August 14, 2016 - 15:55

Leo Gomez

What stopped BLM was the Dallas shooting. Notice how the "left" isn't endorsing BLM anymore and never ever brings it up. BLM, intentionally or not, killed six enforcers and that is a huge no-no for porky. Now the Milwaukee riots, which the Democrats would otherwise be using as a plug against Walker, is mostly not being covered.

Again it's a matter of priorities. We can see truer than ever what the Democrats and their supporters will not tolerate: armed resistance against police. That says a lot.

August 14, 2016 - 15:57

James Hill

Fair point.

I don't think it's that, so much as they don't want this to turn into Trump's "law and order" moment

August 14, 2016 - 16:04

Julian Thomas

Hilary is much better at the "law and order" stuff, but only when the things getting burned are convince stores and cars. Once police officers start dropping, intentionally or not nobody inside the machine will dare associate with BLM ever again because regular voters will get turned off and the people funding the whole thing will walk away.

Again, it's a matter of money. LEOs are the same people who will shoot you for robbing a bank or take you to jail for lynching a porky. They're the front line and attacks on them are attacks on the bourgeoisie.

August 14, 2016 - 16:19

Sebastian Miller

huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-white-people-police_us_57800f6be4b0c590f7e967f7

From the primaries onward the support of the black community is the hill she's chosen to die on, and as such she's repeatedly doubled down on the #BLM-style "white people and cops really do need to stop killing blacks". Now throw in other minorities and white shitlibs that believe white cops are running a covert race-war against innocent black men and there's no way she can transition into a Nixonian "law and order" candidate.

So the MSM (which at this point is basically a branch of the DNC) is trying to bury both BLM and the Milwaukee riots.

August 14, 2016 - 16:32

Charles Bennett

She'll straight up lie at the debates and be a "reasonable law and order" type of person vs Trump's "insanity". Blacks will get pissed but she expects them to line up and turn out for the Democrats like they always had. She's not that keen.

She will do whatever it takes to win moderates and the pivot to the right will be more obvious at the debates. She won't go stormfag but she will absolutely try to play up to "silent majority" types who have a larger presence in swing states than blacks.

August 14, 2016 - 16:47

Brody Martinez

...

August 14, 2016 - 20:38

Joseph Jones

He whines until he wins. Seems pretty straight forward tbh.

August 14, 2016 - 20:51

Luke Lewis

lol
clinton will say and do anything to get elected, her whole campaing is run on polling and whatever the majority likes.
She used to be anti gay but then society decided gay people were cool then she became pro gay.
The second she gets in office she will go back to not giviing a fuck about nigs

August 14, 2016 - 20:53

Parker Nelson

So OK, yeah, dead thread, but I've got a plan for how we can try to reform the DNC.
Most of the problem purged itself, but the system is obviously designed to reinforce itself and regenerate. Right now, the two officials in the national DNC that hey-hey-ho-ho need to go are the finance chair responsible for fishy donor bonuses Elizabeth Frawley Bagley and the new Vice Chair who described her father who went to jail for corruption as her "moral compass", Grace Meng.

So how do you get them out? That's actually the other and far more important thing. The national DNC is composed of delegates elected at state primaries or by the state party itself, which itself is made of delegates from county and district caucuses.
So basically, if we want to fix the Democratic Party, we need to start showing up en masse and voting.
inb4 I get called a reformist

August 14, 2016 - 21:06

Gabriel Thomas

So OK, yeah, dead thread, but I've got a plan for how we can try to reform the DNC.
Most of the problem purged itself, but the system is obviously designed to reinforce itself and regenerate. Right now, the two officials in the national DNC that hey-hey-ho-ho need to go are the finance chair responsible for fishy donor bonuses Elizabeth Frawley Bagley and the new Vice Chair who described her father who went to jail for corruption as her "moral compass", Grace Meng.

So how do you get them out? That's actually the other and far more important thing. The national DNC is composed of delegates elected at state primaries or by the state party itself, which itself is made of delegates from county and district caucuses.
So basically, if we want to fix the Democratic Party, we need to start showing up en masse and voting.
inb4 I get called a reformist

August 14, 2016 - 21:06

Hunter Rogers

So OK, yeah, dead thread, but I've got a plan for how we can try to reform the DNC.
Most of the problem purged itself, but the system is obviously designed to reinforce itself and regenerate. Right now, the two officials in the national DNC that hey-hey-ho-ho need to go are the finance chair responsible for fishy donor bonuses Elizabeth Frawley Bagley and the new Vice Chair who described her father who went to jail for corruption as her "moral compass", Grace Meng.

So how do you get them out? That's actually the other and far more important thing. The national DNC is composed of delegates elected at state primaries or by the state party itself, which itself is made of delegates from county and district caucuses.
So basically, if we want to fix the Democratic Party, we need to start showing up en masse and voting.
inb4 I get called a reformist

August 14, 2016 - 21:08

Gavin Sanders

You a reformist. :^)

August 14, 2016 - 21:12

Tyler Lee

...

August 14, 2016 - 21:12

Asher Brown

The squeaky wheel gets the grease?

August 15, 2016 - 04:17

Ethan Morgan

When is Hillary going to start campaigning. Is she just going to coast to the White House.

August 15, 2016 - 07:54

Elijah Wright

It doesnt matter who you vote for. What matters is your plan.

August 15, 2016 - 09:09

Adrian Cook

lol proles

August 15, 2016 - 09:11

Carson Robinson

defeatist shill fuck off
you need a good speech and some good art, you need policies that work and you need words that work
using terms like socialist, communist, for the people, or anything else is irrelevant
your actions are relevant and speeches are meant to drive a point home not to signal your labels

August 15, 2016 - 09:19

Christian Gomez

why do you hate women user

August 15, 2016 - 09:20

Blake Jones

theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/15/israel-republicans-donald-trump-campaign

August 15, 2016 - 13:10

Dominic Torres

"Literally playing chess in 6 dimensions"

August 15, 2016 - 13:12

Kevin Hall

What did he mean by this?

August 15, 2016 - 13:26

Jose Williams

Is this real? If so…

YAAASS!!!

August 15, 2016 - 13:30

Noah Lopez

Bullshit.
Is this for real?

August 15, 2016 - 13:31

Asher Bennett

link or it didn't happen

August 15, 2016 - 13:33

Xavier Thompson

...

August 15, 2016 - 13:34

Lincoln Cooper

It's fake.

August 15, 2016 - 13:36

Joseph Ortiz

2 gud 2 be tru

August 15, 2016 - 13:36

Lincoln Gonzalez

Yeah. Why we he flush everything down the toilet just to take it back.

August 15, 2016 - 13:39

Ryder Murphy

would*

August 15, 2016 - 13:39

Carter Scott

don't play with my feelings user

August 15, 2016 - 13:45

Ryan Cook

Sometimes I look at posts and I like to imagine that these images are happening somewhere, out there.

August 15, 2016 - 13:53

Kevin Jones

Somewhere, out there, B████ is looking at the same moon.

August 15, 2016 - 14:02

Jaxson Ortiz

Finally, I knew the Sandman would pull through for us

August 15, 2016 - 15:03

Christopher Fisher

bump

August 15, 2016 - 20:40

Jordan Rodriguez

sage

August 15, 2016 - 20:43

Ryan Williams

Oh, I forgot about the email field.

August 15, 2016 - 20:44

Jace Cook

wsws.org/en/articles/2016/08/16/pers-a16.html

16 August 2016

August 16, 2016 - 02:27

Zachary Jenkins

Niles Niemuth

August 16, 2016 - 02:28

Thomas Martinez

cummies for mummy

August 16, 2016 - 09:56

Bentley Reed

europe.newsweek.com/slavoj-zizek-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-us-presidential-election-bernie-489993

Thoughts?

August 16, 2016 - 14:28

Jordan Evans

THE MEME WAR HAS BEGUN

August 16, 2016 - 14:32

Liam Hughes

...

August 16, 2016 - 14:48

Carson Price

Bill and Hilary both have this idea that the Democrats can somehow survive without delivering their base's populist demands. Ultimately if they don't put out, people won't turn out. Which means a GOP takeover (first Congress, this year the White House). It will take nothing less than Hilary loosing this year to wake the party politburo up.

I mean, let's get real: what would a Hilary Presidency look like? More wars, the TPP, and the continued destruction of the middle class. And thanks to the email leaks, she herself might get licked like Nixon did. She'd go down in flames, and take the entire left with her as Congress obtains a Supermajority at the 2020 census.

It just goes to show what happens when you get a lot of like minded baby boomers together drinking the same kool aide. They think history ended in 1991, and cannot think beyond those terms.

August 16, 2016 - 14:53

Isaac Reed

a deal with the devil is just that: hil gets support from the banks but also is open to powerful populist attacks

then factor in the TPP, and you get an extremely bleak outlook for the democrats regardless if she wins or not

August 16, 2016 - 14:58

Hudson Phillips

...

August 16, 2016 - 15:06

Julian Turner

This, besides gerrymandering/voter suppression, is why voting is at all time lows in both major parties in the country. I don't know how people have not had enough, and I've been wondering that for quite some time, now. Overall apathy, I guess. Focusing on just daily survival as that now trumps being focused educated on politics in general.

Obama didn't deliver either. Instead, he was more of a conservative than we've seen from a democrat in years, imo. And people still defend him. Most liberals point to some "progress" on social issues like gay marriage; completely ignoring economic issues & how they've further deteriorated.

Lmao, I saw that too. I was going to comment but hate when they make you sign up etc. Those guys really put in little to no effort in those comments.

August 16, 2016 - 15:27

Hunter Clark

Alex Jones: Polls Show Donald Trump Winning New York & California

youtube.com/watch?v=oiS9Zai8rvg

August 16, 2016 - 16:21

Andrew Harris

...

August 16, 2016 - 16:27

Jaxon Robinson

...

August 16, 2016 - 16:32

Gavin Morales

Maximum hehe

August 16, 2016 - 16:42

Jonathan Evans

NY here, last time I checked, trump was down 30 points or something. It probably just completely reversed overnight, I guess.

August 16, 2016 - 16:46

Christian Jenkins

Miss me yet?

August 16, 2016 - 16:47

Andrew Miller

Or Jones is just a cuck shill.

August 16, 2016 - 16:48

Easton Hall

Kill yourself my man.

August 16, 2016 - 18:13

Parker Gomez

Ok, I'll ask it. You're joking, right?

August 16, 2016 - 18:32

Jose Morales

fuck off newfag

August 16, 2016 - 18:34

Ian Perry

Not him, but I'm almost certain he isn't joking. Alex is fucking based.

Somebody break out the webms.

August 16, 2016 - 18:35

Asher Hall

I'm not new.

All his talk about vampires & reptilians kind of weighs down any legitimacy.

August 16, 2016 - 18:39

Isaiah Gutierrez

How new are you?

August 16, 2016 - 18:43

Aiden Jones

Stop pulling my leg, user.

August 16, 2016 - 18:44

John Carter

I thought it was a joke myself. Seem pretty reactionary and spooked to me tbqh.

August 16, 2016 - 18:48

Dominic Sullivan

...

August 16, 2016 - 18:51

Nolan Allen

*Sniff.* I cri everytim.

August 16, 2016 - 18:51

Xavier Walker

...

August 16, 2016 - 18:59

Evan Bennett

Alex knows the government hears his dangerous message and are coming to get him. So he's decided to bulk up.
youtube.com/watch?v=U1kWOCLPTQ8

August 16, 2016 - 19:03

Nicholas Morales

I'll always be with you alex. Always. And its because of these words you definitely said.

August 16, 2016 - 19:03

Adrian Rivera

...

August 16, 2016 - 19:09

Matthew Jackson

literally husbando tier

August 16, 2016 - 19:15

Levi Hughes

Only difference is he looks all red in the after pic
kek

August 16, 2016 - 19:19

Josiah Morris

Whelp, I guess I'm all done with those memes.

August 16, 2016 - 20:22

Aiden Bailey

This is very well done. Bravo to whoever did this.

August 16, 2016 - 20:28

Charles Thompson

theintercept.com/2016/08/16/hillary-clinton-picks-tpp-and-fracking-advocate-to-set-up-her-white-house/
Hillary Clinton Picks TPP and Fracking Advocate To Set Up Her White House

August 16, 2016 - 21:35

Elijah Rogers

Reasons to live: 0
Reasons to die: Too many to count.

August 16, 2016 - 21:55

Levi Parker

youtube.com/watch?v=YffB23acHSA

Tim Canova vs Debbie Wasserman Schultz debate.

August 17, 2016 - 03:10

Luke Sanchez

...

August 17, 2016 - 03:36

Jack Anderson

I laughed too hard at this

August 17, 2016 - 03:48

Jason Watson

Wtf, why is this the first I'm hearing of this? I need an explanation.

August 17, 2016 - 05:14

Nathaniel Collins

...

August 17, 2016 - 05:16

Chase Bell

It's cute that she thinks she'll be able to do whatever she wants when she's President.

August 17, 2016 - 06:57

Xavier Campbell

Oh boy you sweet summer child.

August 17, 2016 - 09:15

Camden Bailey

telesurtv.net/english/news/Serbian-Ultra-Nationalists-Chant-Vote-for-Trump-at-Joe-Biden-20160816-0038.html
Serbian Ultra-Nationalists Chant 'Vote for Trump' at Joe Biden

August 17, 2016 - 09:41

Jeremiah Adams

>theintercept.com/2016/08/16/ceo-tim-cook-decides-apple-doesnt-have-to-pay-corporate-tax-rate-because-its-unfair/
What did he mean by this?

August 17, 2016 - 09:46

Henry Kelly

He meant
"Oink Oink"

August 17, 2016 - 09:51

Jaxson Mitchell

europe.newsweek.com/slavoj-zizek-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-us-presidential-election-bernie-489993

August 17, 2016 - 11:39

Zachary Gomez

What a fucking snake.

August 17, 2016 - 12:00

Chase Long

inb4 "CTR shill"

Vote for Jill Stein, Gary Johnson, whoever you want, just not Trump thinking he's going to do anything but make things worse for the left.

August 17, 2016 - 14:53

Michael Price

So Jill Stein and Ajamu Baraka are gonna be on a town hall on CNN in an hour and a half.

August 17, 2016 - 16:23

Aaron Butler

if satanic trips hillary is shot

August 17, 2016 - 16:44

Luke Moore

meme magic isn't real

August 17, 2016 - 16:47

Hunter Lewis

Trips confirmed.

August 17, 2016 - 16:48

Nathan Phillips

Is anyone doing a watch group for the green party town hall?

August 17, 2016 - 17:13

Jordan Rogers

Nobody wants anything more to do with this farce of an election.

August 17, 2016 - 17:18

Evan Taylor

I honestly don't blame them

August 17, 2016 - 17:22

Lincoln Ross

>twitch.tv/griefer000
heres a stream in case she decides to take the mantle of slickest entryist

August 17, 2016 - 17:24

Parker Reed

Whew looks like they're already starting with the Nader-spoiled-Gore horseshit.

Not to mention lying about Stein's polling. 6-7% was the last number I heard, not fucking 2%.

August 17, 2016 - 17:54

Luis Sanders

...

August 17, 2016 - 18:17

Andrew Reyes

I wonder what kind of plants we should expect in this "audience".

August 17, 2016 - 18:20

Brody Barnes

I expect at least one question about vaccines and another one about why the greens hate Israel.

August 17, 2016 - 18:22

Charles Bailey

That shit pisses me off to no end

August 17, 2016 - 18:23

Jaxson Young

Don't forget wi-fi.

August 17, 2016 - 18:24

Sebastian Collins

When they said "the Greens say wifi causes cancer" in the pregame I knew they'd bullshit a shitton

August 17, 2016 - 18:26

Nicholas Fisher

i miss him already

August 17, 2016 - 18:28

Nathaniel Reyes

She's good on vaccines and she's the only candidate with a logical stance on Israel (Also the only Jew)

August 17, 2016 - 18:29

Jason Hughes

I can't wait to read all the well thought out and nuanced responses by the mainstream media

August 17, 2016 - 18:39

Ayden Baker

Srsly. We're talking politics, who gives a shit? Shit & possible bait question.

August 17, 2016 - 18:40

Henry Sullivan

Ajamu Baraka has Vulcan eyebrows.

August 17, 2016 - 18:40

David Edwards

they actually gave Jill the same bullshit religion question the Sandman got.
This is totally not scripted u guiz.

August 17, 2016 - 18:41

Kevin Cruz

Fuck off feminist.

August 17, 2016 - 18:48

Kevin Kelly

what is jill even talking about

August 17, 2016 - 18:50

Jonathan Young

but yeah, the wage gap is a myth, feminibe jobs just pay less

August 17, 2016 - 18:50

Kayden Jones

BUT WHAT ABOUT RALPH NADER!1!1!1!1
Checkmate, commies.

August 17, 2016 - 18:51

Eli Rivera

Get a load of this shit. Jill gave an awesome answer, too!

August 17, 2016 - 18:52

Gabriel Collins

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August 17, 2016 - 18:52

Juan Hall

Welp, yeah President Gore woulda made everything perfect.

August 17, 2016 - 18:52

Ryder Price

Ralph Nader literally destroyed the missing ballots that would have made Al Gore President.

August 17, 2016 - 18:53

Lincoln Taylor

This classcucked motherfucker looks triggered as fuck

August 17, 2016 - 18:54

Sebastian Perez

I really wish that Jill would give a deeper answer to the spoiler effect shit sometime that isn't so temporal. The real problem is that neoliberal candidates won't solve people's economic misery and people, having been turned off the supposed "Left" of the Democratic Party failing to do anything, turn to more radical solutions on the Right. As bad as Trump is the future could bring even worse as long as we settle on trash like Clinton.

August 17, 2016 - 18:56

Matthew Young

JUST

August 17, 2016 - 18:56

Ryan Rogers

She didn't even address his question alluding to rigged polls. She needs to name drop Election Justice USA sometime soon.

August 17, 2016 - 18:57

Carson Murphy

lmao

August 17, 2016 - 18:57

Ayden Howard

To be fair though, the Nader BS needed to be dealt with first, because that's what the retards need to hear.

August 17, 2016 - 18:58

Jose Watson

Reminder that the governor of Florida in 2000 was Jeb Bush and that while he was governor thousands of voters from mostly black areas were "accidentally" disenfranchised and couldn't vote in the presidential election.
But let's blame Ralph Nader instead.

August 17, 2016 - 18:58

Juan Scott

Reminder that Al Gore couldn't even win his home state of Tennessee.

Reminder that 120,000 registered Democrats in Florida voted for Bush while Nader only got about 20,000 votes.

Reminder that Gore would have won the election if he hadn't been such a chickenshit and actually demanded a recount.

But let's blame Ralph Nader instead.

August 17, 2016 - 19:00

Samuel Scott

Just say seize the fucking banks

August 17, 2016 - 19:01

Josiah Ramirez

Just say seize the fucking means of production

August 17, 2016 - 19:02

Daniel Rodriguez

wew stream got shut down

August 17, 2016 - 19:04

Joseph Lopez

Whew, here comes the JIDF.

August 17, 2016 - 19:05

Dylan Martinez

oh god Israel

August 17, 2016 - 19:05

Ethan Bailey

...

August 17, 2016 - 19:07

Noah Price

But user she supports Rojava

August 17, 2016 - 19:07

John Campbell

What casino owner is she alluding to? Name the Jew.

August 17, 2016 - 19:08

Easton Turner

Sheldon something

August 17, 2016 - 19:09

Robert Davis

It's Sheldon Adelson.

August 17, 2016 - 19:10

Jacob Butler

Isn't he funding Trump?

August 17, 2016 - 19:12

Kayden Price

This is why I don't trust the Democrats one fucking bit.

They exist to uphold the status quo and nothing more. There's really no other way to explain this.

August 17, 2016 - 19:14

Camden Cooper

Not just "oppression", Ajamu. "Economic oppression".

August 17, 2016 - 19:15

Michael Torres

...

August 17, 2016 - 19:17

Luis Brooks

Well that was fun. Back to the non-news for CNN.

August 17, 2016 - 19:21

Bentley Young

Honestly, that's how I view Stein, especially with the only criticisms they can lodge at her. She just seems like a concerned mother/Medical Doctor, as if that's supposed to be a bad thing that she's concerned about the health or well being of Americans.

August 17, 2016 - 19:41

Alexander Myers

wsws.org/en/articles/2016/08/18/pers-a18.html

18 August 2016

August 18, 2016 - 06:04

Lucas Jones

...

August 18, 2016 - 06:04

Jordan Jenkins

Joseph Kishore

August 18, 2016 - 06:05

Brody Perez

...

August 18, 2016 - 07:55

Isaiah Watson

Whew, all that just to shill for the SEP. The Greens are worth rallying behind right now. They've been around for 40 years, they finally accepted anti-capitalism into their hearts, and judging from the Houston convention they're full of socialists of all sorts of different backgrounds.

August 18, 2016 - 09:02

Liam Wright

Also just judging from my desperate efforts to get Jill Stein on the ballot in my state, there's no way the SEP's presidential candidates will be on anywhere near as many ballots. And sadly in this banana republic of ours in a lot of states if you're not on the presidential ballot they won't count write-ins.

August 18, 2016 - 09:06

Matthew Sanchez

I was unsure about Stein for a while but Baraka has won be over.

The SEP can't even constitutionally qualify. Niemuth is too young to be VP (he's under 35).

August 18, 2016 - 09:14

Leo Morgan

if quads jill is president

August 18, 2016 - 10:05

Asher James

damn so close

how about a chance? if quad

August 18, 2016 - 10:09

Noah Robinson

wew you'd think after this whole fiasco with B████ people would know better than to support """"""""""""socialist"""""""""""" parties

August 18, 2016 - 10:19

Jaxon Edwards

Stein and Baraka got a bunch of coverage on Democracy Now! today:

youtube.com/watch?v=fvSNgRGFQZc

youtube.com/watch?v=VeeAUxwCKOQ

youtube.com/watch?v=efaXCvAgSZY

youtube.com/watch?v=1buaFxFGD2I

August 18, 2016 - 10:29

Luke Sanchez

So apparently the basic argument of Gary Johnson's lawsuit against the Commission on Presidential Debates is that politics is a business and the two parties colluding together to undercut competition is a violation of the Sherman Act.

I thought lolberts didn't like government intervention in the free market? I thought you had principles Gary!

August 18, 2016 - 10:59

Blake Roberts

m.ajc.com/news/news/gen-politics/green-partys-jill-stein-nixed-georgias-presidentia/nsGtH/
;_;
We worked so hard and got so far, but in the end it doesn't even matter
;_;

August 18, 2016 - 11:58

Hunter Gonzalez

Damn I was really looking forward to voting for her officially november
guess i will be writing her in

August 18, 2016 - 12:17

Jaxon Bennett

>twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/766246213079498752
what did he mean by this?

August 18, 2016 - 12:39

Camden Hill

I hate Texas.

archive.is/FuGVF

August 18, 2016 - 13:00

Daniel Garcia

You called it.

August 18, 2016 - 13:02

Julian Hernandez

that is one of the most hilariously insane tweets I have ever seen. it's like Dril but real

August 18, 2016 - 13:03

Colton Cooper

He's going to remove the USA from reality.
But, in all seriousness he's just thumbing his nose at the liberal fear of right wing populism. There had been many articles both before and after brexit comparing it to him politically.

August 18, 2016 - 13:04

Joshua White

#Texit when?
If Texas becomes an independent country that means America can start bombing it.

August 18, 2016 - 13:22

Grayson Bell

That's actually rather clever on his part then.

I figured he was saying he would be responsible for Brexit, even though it already kinda took place?

August 18, 2016 - 13:28

David White

Lol have fun not having our tech and oil jobs

That doesn't mean anything. Most of those people who voted Harambe or Deez Nuts actually go to vote for President. If anything the fact that Clinton and Trump only have like 80% of the vote secured is a good thing, You also have to remember our state's past as part of The South(TM) has set a viciously conformist status quo culture.

That being said Texas is pretty shit

August 18, 2016 - 14:38

Jaxon Barnes

Trump hires a Brietbart employee to run his campaign
theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/17/donald-trump-stephen-bannon-breitbart-news-kellyanne-conway
U.S. anarchists set up nude Trump statues in major cities
theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/18/nude-donald-trump-statues-new-york-indecline

August 18, 2016 - 18:19

Hunter Murphy

Texans threatening secession is reaching THE SOUTH WILL RISE AGAIN territory now

August 18, 2016 - 18:36

Andrew Phillips

How can you not?

August 18, 2016 - 19:08

Grayson Gray

Ugh, that interviewer doesn't have a neck.
He's a bowling ball.

August 18, 2016 - 19:23

Justin Fisher

Literally one job

August 19, 2016 - 02:29

Thomas Cook

According to some SS agents who worked for the Clintons, when Bill got elected, she demanded the VP's office and threw a tantrum when Gore got it.

August 19, 2016 - 02:36

Carter Martin

wsws.org/en/articles/2016/08/19/gree-a19.html

By Evan Blake
19 August 2016

August 19, 2016 - 06:02

David Morgan

...

August 19, 2016 - 06:03

Jacob Ross

...

August 19, 2016 - 06:03

Landon Smith

has woosx2 done literally anything of relevance

August 19, 2016 - 06:05

Ryan Thompson

have you ever had literally any criticisms of relevance

August 19, 2016 - 06:06

Hudson Lewis

THIS
They accuse them of not critisizing capitalism in explicit Marxist terms. Even though the average person isn't familiar with Marx.

They instead talk about the material negative things proles live with everyday but that fails their purity test. So let's sit on our hands until class conciousness is high enough to reach muh special snowflake form of socialism

August 19, 2016 - 07:37

Ryan Bell

Then they get all butt hurt that the Green Party brings up racism. You'd have to not read any history books about the US to believe that racism isn't an integral aspect of class struggle.

August 19, 2016 - 07:39

Jayden Watson

I wanna be mad, but they are right a lot

August 19, 2016 - 08:46

Justin Campbell

They've shilled for underage SEP candidates who aren't even on most state ballots.

August 19, 2016 - 09:33

Christopher Price

The system is rigged in favor of Hilary though. Trump may be porky but he's also threatening to interfere with the globalist capitalist system. Which is why NBC, gallup and friends all cook the polls to make him look unpopular. As much as I don't like him, he will win because he perfectly encapsulates the pure rage the working class feels towards the Beltway. And him winning would do one good thing: it'd exorcise the Clintons from politics and allow the Democratic Party to reform itself for the coming 2020 census.

Meanwhile, Hilary and Kaine both want the TPP which will destroy whatever is left of American Unionism, and ensure a Republican Presidency and Supermajority Congress by 2024.

American capitalism is decaying, but ultimately our choice is to kick out their chair either in 2016 or 2020. I'd rather do it sooner than later.

August 19, 2016 - 10:10

Isaiah Reed

wew

August 19, 2016 - 10:12

Evan Gutierrez

Only because it divides. Communism never took off in America because it was associated with irrelevant shiting and negroes. Our brief fling with socialism only came about due to a coalition of white farmers and urban irish workers taking it up. And the modern left is totally fucked because they don't try to unify, they divide using idpol.

August 19, 2016 - 10:12

Jacob Jackson

McCarthy talked about communism a lot.

August 19, 2016 - 10:40

Julian Hernandez

Reminder that Brietbart commissioned their own poll and found results along the lines of the RCP average.

August 19, 2016 - 11:01

Zachary Green

>archive.is/kdrau
GAWKER BTFO BY HULK HOGAN, COMMITS SUDOKU

August 19, 2016 - 11:13

Kevin Thomas

I agree it divides if there is no class consciousness behind anti-racism.

But idpol is already a deeply entrenched institution of oppression and anti-revolutionary in the form of systemic racism that ethnic minorities and women face in this country.

Capitalism oppression is nearly invisible to proles but oppression based on identity is not.

It kills me to no end when leftists can't figure out why proles to rally to their cause when they can't even keep themselves from denying the everyday experiences of a lot of proles.

They don't see by denying racism and sexism as relevant they come across like the proles porky oppressors and are therefore not listened to.

August 19, 2016 - 11:17

Christian Morris

They pretty much deserved it. But their passing is chilling because it primarily happened because of a Billionaire using his money to make it so.

Also Hamilton Nolan was one of the very few prominent labor journalists that I'm aware of. Having his voice silenced is very troubling to me.

August 19, 2016 - 11:27

Isaac Walker

yeah holy shit

His vaunted hedge fund Clarium Capital was an abject failure, losing more than 90% of its $7 billion in assets, a decline that Valleywag assiduously chronicled.
He is an arch libertarian who believes that central mechanisms of contemporary society—including representative democracy, universal suffrage, and formalized education—are either outdated or incompatible with human freedom.
He is a loud proponent of “seasteading,” the movement to establish sovereign communities on permanent ocean vessels for the purpose of developing legal systems unencumbered by taxes or any other kind of traditional government policies.
He believes death itself can and should be cheated, and even intends to be cryogenically frozen after he passes away, in hopes that science will one day be capable of reviving him. He literally wants to live forever.
He has backed efforts to question the legitimacy of climate change science as well as political groups opposed to immigration—even though the industry that minted him as a billionaire is heavily dependent on immigrant labor.
Gizmodo’s recent coverage of Facebook, in which Thiel was an early investor and on which he has a board seat, launched a congressional investigation into the company’s news curation practices, and inspired a national conversation about the vast amount of power the company wields—with no transparency and minimal accountability—over who reads what.

August 19, 2016 - 13:18

Kevin Moore

...

August 19, 2016 - 15:39

Tyler Brooks

He looked like he was about to cry once he realized his gotcha question rolled off her like water off a ducks ass.

August 19, 2016 - 18:49

Brayden Thomas

The number of interviews Jill has been able to give on major cable channels has been going up lately. I hope this means the fires are rising.

August 19, 2016 - 18:51

Robert Jackson

THEY'RE STILL THIS ANGRY
publicintegrity.org/2016/08/18/20074/how-bernie-sanders-beat-clock-and-avoided-disclosure

August 19, 2016 - 18:58

Joshua Barnes

You guys remember that this is over a sex tape, right?

And journalists only care because it's their fellow journalists in trouble. Or has everyone forgotten how most media companies are spin doctors for the pet interests of their oligarchic owners like Jeff Bezos and Carlos Slim?

August 19, 2016 - 18:59

Andrew Allen

Because idpolers don't care about overthrowing the system, they just want to improve it so we can be ruled by a diverse, multicultural, LGBT-representative porky class.

Almost all complaints about "systemic discrimination" end at "Why aren't minorities/women earning as much as white men? Why aren't minorities/women as represented among America's CEOs as white men?"

August 19, 2016 - 19:05

Jordan Sullivan

Not gonna lie, I love how easy it is to push these liberals over the edge like that.
Anything even moderately left wing offends them to their core. You know what that means, right?
It means there getting scared.

August 19, 2016 - 19:09

Andrew Ortiz

Yeah I know. But porkies have conflicting interests so sometimes one porky will screw over another and it will accidentally produce some good.

Gawker made oodles of money by uncovering salacious details about powerful people, like which ones were closeted homosexuals.

But while they were doing that they were also showing how corrupt these same individuals were. They're motivation was mostly likely to diffuse criticism that they weren't real journalists but still.

August 19, 2016 - 19:37

Jonathan Campbell

They're against "corporatism" which basically means capitalism going wrong.

Hey next time can you post 5 qts and not 1 and spare the shitty trolly propaganda articles? Thanks.
Also I love that they're still going for this angle when the Greens are explicitly socialist now, the entire article is one of the most brocialist "but what about teh whites" things on this board as much as I hate using that language.

Wewmao famillio, it's called "maybe intellectual language from the 1850s can't connect with the modern proletariat and speaking on their level with synonyms and near synonyms will work more efficiently"

It sounds like they were about to send it and the FEC was like "yeah don't bother". How is this a bad thing? Wew.

August 19, 2016 - 19:43

Connor Russell

...

August 20, 2016 - 03:28

Isaiah Jackson

Those face twitches really creeped me out

August 20, 2016 - 06:42

Benjamin Ortiz

You realize what happened to Gawker is almost exactly the same process Gawker and their ilk have used against countless other people, throwing shit at the wall until something sticks, and dragging their target down like a mob of pirahnas when it does?

One of the most oft repeated, and most fundamentally wrongheaded, critiques of GG was that we discredit ourselves by using the vile tactics for which we decry our foes. Quite the oppososite, this the results of this behavior greatly vindicates our complaints, by illustrating how dangerous such laws are, and by ensuring that the most abusive forces behind their continued enforcement aren't exempt from their harmful effects.

August 20, 2016 - 06:44

Eli Torres

lol
and wew

>>>/reddit/

August 20, 2016 - 07:58

Jason Cook

gay post fageria

August 20, 2016 - 10:17

Charles Sanchez

csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2016/0819/Trump-hands-his-campaign-to-the-alt-right-movement
archive.is/bTY5w

August 20, 2016 - 15:22

Wyatt Flores

...

August 20, 2016 - 15:24

Kayden Morgan

I am predicting Trump will lose as magistrally as Jean-Marie Le Pen in 2002.

August 20, 2016 - 16:24

Aiden Barnes

he lost in the second round of the election, no such thing as a second round in the US.

the shock/fear effect won't work

August 20, 2016 - 16:49

Cameron Hughes

These people really want to pretend that all the populist rage against them is just one great big trolling campaign, and there is absolutely nobody who might sincerely want to stop the offshoring, the immigration, the pointless wars… They're just completely detached. That's why they close comment sections and ban people from networks like twatter or leddit, because if they can't see the anger, that means the dissatisfaction driving it will vanish in a puff of magic smoke.

What absolute scum.

August 20, 2016 - 17:46

Hunter Miller

bump

August 21, 2016 - 18:59

Dominic Davis

...

August 21, 2016 - 20:57

Nicholas Rivera

dub

August 21, 2016 - 20:57

Kevin Walker

damn it

August 21, 2016 - 20:57

Michael Wood

Their news isn't that bad. But yeah, the SEP shilling can get pretty old.

August 22, 2016 - 05:28

Tyler Ramirez

nice

August 22, 2016 - 05:58

Robert Clark

...

August 22, 2016 - 09:47

Zachary Butler

at least he seems to have a sense of humor about it.

August 22, 2016 - 09:53

Kayden Martin

theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/22/hillary-clinton-emails-fbi-release-election-day
Hillary Clinton emails recovered by FBI to be released just before election day

August 22, 2016 - 14:59

Jacob Wright

oh bullshit, it'll be afterwards if it happens at all.

August 22, 2016 - 15:05

Jayden Thomas

They're probably confident enough of a Hillary win that they believe it won't have any (significant) impact on election day

August 22, 2016 - 15:18

Connor Carter

more like they decided to wait until the last minute to release them so nobody would have time to read the damn thing

August 22, 2016 - 15:21

Brayden Green

Perhaps they're betting that people will read it after the election and damage Clinton's already terrible approval ratings.

August 22, 2016 - 15:42

Elijah Phillips

...

August 22, 2016 - 17:51

Levi Green

Are they actively trying to make it seem like something's up at this point?

August 22, 2016 - 18:03

Henry Miller

REVEALED: Donald Trump's Debt

youtube.com/watch?v=NunRt-PaDTk

August 22, 2016 - 18:14

Luis James

"How can you sleep at night?!" guy has a sense of humor? Fuck him.

Let me guess.. "a lot"?

August 22, 2016 - 20:11

Aaron Perez

That fb post surely outs him as a Hillary supporter; as if we didn't already get that.

I agree, 100%. And it's working on the uninformed. I had a phone conversation with my mother, who's voting Hillary, and she had zero clue about any current happenings in detail. She genuinely asked me if DWS knew about the "email stuff". She didn't know about CTR, any of the emails, etc. I had to explain to her all the info I knew. She then genuinely asked if I thought CNN & MSNBC was biased. She took in the info, but is still voting Hillary because "what choice does she have". I have a couple of months, maybe I can swing them to Stein.

But the DNC is complete shit, for what you mention. Work on your friends/family/anyone you can to let them know. It's definitely worth it.

August 22, 2016 - 20:16

Anthony Adams

That's the problem, though. It's just a joke to these fucks.

August 22, 2016 - 20:18

Blake Russell

theintercept.com/2016/08/22/peabody-hillary-clinton/
Clinton e-mails reveal that Shillary was colluding with Peabody, the largest coal company on earth.
The Same Peabody that is responsible for funding a lot of the anti-global warming "Research"

August 22, 2016 - 21:04

Nathan Cook

LOL
You guys see this shit?

August 22, 2016 - 21:09

Julian Edwards

Yes, yes. We all know he's full of shit.

August 22, 2016 - 21:20

Benjamin Hernandez

no I was saying CNN fucked up, equating blacks with criminals.

At least those are some of the complaints Ive seen

August 22, 2016 - 21:23

Oliver Murphy

Oh ok, I can see that

August 22, 2016 - 21:29

Joshua Lee

wsws.org/en/articles/2016/08/23/cash-a23.html

By Patrick Martin
23 August 2016

August 23, 2016 - 02:31

Tyler Cook

...

August 23, 2016 - 02:31

Oliver Rodriguez

The FBI wants Hillary to be president since she's easily controllable thanks the ridiculous amount of dirt they have on her. They don't want her to lose, but that doesn't mean they're going to make life easy for her. They'll drop it to let her know who's boss.

August 23, 2016 - 13:38

Andrew Hall

They won't go for Stein because they aren't delusional like you are. They know the score.

As much as they may hate it, Trump and Hillary are the only realistic options. There is no way Stein can gather enough support in the next three months to matter shit.

August 23, 2016 - 13:52

Elijah Gonzalez

Why even shill here? The point isn't to vote for Jill Stein because we think she'll win, but so the Green Party can receive federal funding and become a more powerful agent of spreading class-consciousness and demolishing the two party system. A third party only needs 5% of the popular vote to achieve this. Is it a little far-fetched we'll achieve it this election? Yes. But it's not impossible and there's no reason not to give it a try if it's what you want to do. Holla Forums knows this. You're not going to convince Stein voters not to vote (for her) because Clinton's victory is inevitable. That's a bourgeois, cynical lie and if you don't know it by now, why are you posting here?

August 23, 2016 - 13:57

Benjamin Nelson

Wew lad

Well I guess she got her wish

August 23, 2016 - 13:59

Oliver Williams

THIS

August 23, 2016 - 15:25

Logan Price

maybe you will find this interesting (reddit)

Controlled Opposition - Permanently Banned from /r/Political_Revolution (no official reason given) for being anti-Clinton and saying I wished S█████ had run independent.

reddit.com/r/TheRecordCorrected/comments/4yk2dv/controlled_opposition_permanently_banned_from/

August 23, 2016 - 15:53

Austin Adams

What did they mean by this?

August 23, 2016 - 17:31

Josiah Rogers

Wew lad

I don't know how to feel about this. Part of me just fucking hates Clintonites more and more each passing day, but there's something enjoyable about how threatened/angry/scared they must be.

August 23, 2016 - 17:36

Alexander Nelson

...

August 23, 2016 - 18:08

Nathan Sanchez

it really makes you think

August 23, 2016 - 18:17

Jace Sanders

Looks like S█████' new organization just had a bunch of people quit when his wife appointed his previous campaign manager as its chair.

thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/292309-sanders-group-loses-five-staffers-pre-launch

August 23, 2016 - 18:57

Jacob Lewis

She's also one of the shitheads who wrote hitpieces on gamergate.

August 23, 2016 - 18:58

Easton Garcia

Wow, is this true? Man, ever since endorsing Shillary, B████ has shit the bed.

August 23, 2016 - 19:45

Jaxson Rodriguez

I feel sad for him. He did establish a leftist movement only in it's beginning stages, but now were seeing his same supporters calling him a sellout for falling on the sword. He only did it because he got some of his ideas in the platform. It's sad really. I was dissapointed that he didn't perform a Ron Paul, but I don't think he really supports her.

August 23, 2016 - 20:34

Brody Ortiz

HE'S BACKPEDALING

foxnews.com/politics/2016/08/24/trump-says-hes-open-to-softening-immigration-laws-in-hannity-town-hall.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

TRUMPKIDDIES ON SUICIDE WATCH

August 23, 2016 - 20:37

Gavin Wilson

Not really, the issues with the B████ campaign's lead staffers go back a ways. There were accusations of some being traitors or plants months ago.

August 23, 2016 - 20:39

Tyler Davis

...

August 23, 2016 - 20:55

Jeremiah Gutierrez

It's funny watching Trumptards rationalize his continuously changing stances.

Strong leader, speaks his mind!

Don't worry people he's just doing this to get votes!

August 23, 2016 - 20:57

Mason Miller

WSWS was right

August 23, 2016 - 21:13

Grayson Evans

H-he's playing chess in 1 billion dimensions!

August 23, 2016 - 21:18

Nicholas Miller

They're probably just your standard party hacks that would vote for a squirrel if there was a (D) next to it, energised by months of Drumpf is literally Hitler!

August 23, 2016 - 21:19

Dominic Murphy

this is his hand-picked campaign leader, who he has worked with for decades. If this story is true and Weaver is shilling for big porkybucks, then that's a way bigger problem than a few low level hillary infiltrators.

August 23, 2016 - 21:26

Angel Williams

WSWS is always right

August 24, 2016 - 01:25

Chase Brooks

First, leave.
Then, fucking kill yourself.

August 24, 2016 - 01:42

Nolan Reed

Thanks for posting this.
I've been banned for the second time in 3 months from r/politics for the same type of reasons(but we all already know they're controlled by pro-Hillary/DNC entities).

Aidan_King was a top mod on S4P & is the shithead who took the subreddit down during the convention "mistakenly". Now he's a top mod for r/political_revolution. I knew once that happened that it couldn't be trusted either. Now we know for sure it's controlled opposition, which makes sense because it never gained any traction. If it was actual opposition it would have attracted many more people/subscribers.

The political subreddits are all utter cesspools because of the shilling. And as we can see by they spill over here as well.

August 24, 2016 - 01:52

Hudson Wilson

FBI uncovers 15,000 new Hillary Clinton emails
youtube.com/watch?v=5zrQCbvu5Js

August 24, 2016 - 02:21

Ryan Russell

Guys, I was just watching this old Drunken Peasants episode with Kyle Kulinski. (I started watching them when I needed a break from serious political stuff during the end of the primaries).
youtube.com/watch?v=DDCzJMb0fgs
It's interesting watching these older ones because you see some political commentary("" "" lol) from that time.

But around 54 minutes into this episode, they reference McCain shooting down the question from that old lady about Obama being Muslim around 2008. Then they segued into clips of Trump's "birther" BS from that time.

So.. I just realized that this makes Trump seem even more like a Clinton plant. Clinton was the one who started that Muslim myth, then Trump "trumpeted" it, if you will, louder than anyone… I just put that together & wanted to share it.

Trump pretty much confirmed plant for Clinton. Which we all know they're captialist/porky scum, but it's interesting to see how it's all working out with them.

August 24, 2016 - 02:24

Austin Harris

We should just kill them all to be honest.

Anyone with a net worth over a million dollars deserves the guillotine.

August 24, 2016 - 02:26

Chase Adams

You won't hear an objection from me on that.

It's amazing people praise Bill Gates, having roughly $79 billion, because he does "some good charity works". The fucker has how much money & helps with polio sometimes? Seriously?

No one should have(hoard) that much money; it's disgusting. He could be feeding, clothing & giving medical care to an entire continent with that amount of money.

Don't get me started on a rant, lmao. It's amazing how little you need to do to be praised in our society.

August 24, 2016 - 02:32

Caleb Kelly

Only if you have alot of money.

If you're poor you're always doing something wrong.

August 24, 2016 - 02:39

Aaron Cook

Yeah, but to be honest we deserve it because we're just lazy fucks looking for entitlements because we refuse to pull ourselves up by our bootstraps. Amirite?

Obviously joking. It's amazing how many fellow workers will actually parrot this all while being fucked. Just make an enemy out of the poor & it unites uneducated people to a common enemy to blame our misfortune on.

August 24, 2016 - 02:46

Colton Sullivan

Pretty dumb thing to spout to be frank. Blind luck could see you stumble into a million dollars.

There are rich people who see the world as a mess and would like to see the demise of capitalism, but there's a brilliant narrative set up whereby if you're poor you're jealous and if you're rich you're a hypocrite. Years ago I read an article about some rich guy complaining about the future where most of the world is in absolute poverty and his children have to be bustled around in armoured cars with bodyguards and there being seemingly no way to change this from happening.

Martin Shkreli is also pretty based, despite his awful PR (which he's started to revel in). You could argue he's accelerationist. When he was young he had a sick sister and his poor family couldn't afford her medication, but I don't think he's talked about this much. He does things corporations do behind corporate branding, and they increase prices more than he does, when the liberal media go apeshit at him he calls them out as the hypocrites they are and draws attention to the other companies doing it. He gives the drugs away for free to people without health insurance, and he puts all the money he makes from gouging the insurance companies into researching drugs for obscure diseases other companies never bother to do. He also gives lessons on medicine and stock investment online, regularly, for free.

August 24, 2016 - 02:47

Jordan Johnson

There are some okay people who are millionaires (most I can recall being highly paid workers rather than rentier capitalists, rather uncoincidentally), probably a minority, but Gates was never one of them, and what he does or doesn't do with the money is irrelevant. The problem with Gates is that he made his fortune entirely by retarding technological progress in his industry, stealing from his fellows, and swindling his customers/contractors.

I'll admit thinking of billionaires that don't deserve to be thrown in a giant blender for one reason or another is a lot harder. I can think of many that at least started out as decent people, but on the way to their first billion, all that come to mind seem to have shed their humanity at some point along that road.

August 24, 2016 - 02:47

Ethan Reed

I don't think he was completely serious, user.

August 24, 2016 - 02:49

Aiden Edwards

You would be surprised at how many that aren't.

August 24, 2016 - 02:51

Blake Gonzalez

It really is, though.

These are the ones that fascinate me the most. The ones who brag about walking 5 miles to get medication for their dying mother, which they couldn't afford, when they were younger. All while sitting in literally gold plated mansions complaining about the government taking money from them in the form of taxes to keep the country going.

August 24, 2016 - 02:53

Hunter White

Lmao, stop it, user.

August 24, 2016 - 02:54

Blake Allen

Leftist platform tl;dr:
hang the bourgies with the guts of the spookmongers.

August 24, 2016 - 02:54

Juan Jenkins

It's all about context. If you're a billionaire in a country of starving people, for example, you deserve to die tbh.

August 24, 2016 - 02:55

Joshua Collins

It's strange and very disappointing, watching otherwise normal people, even very idealistic ones like Apple, Google, or Whole Foods' founders, morally unravel as their enterprises switch from accomplishing some specific goal like inventing or building something new, to animalistic self-perpetuation.

Sort of like the way revolutionary partisans rot under the responsibility of rulership, due to increasing focus on politics over ideology.

August 24, 2016 - 03:04

Angel Brown

Tell me why I'm wrong, or are you just eating up the liberal media that are furious at him drawing attention to some of their bedfellows?

Like the corrupt government officials owning shares in the mining corporations of their countries who use the police and army as their private security force, like Lonmin Plc? They'd obviously be getting the chop/a million years gulag after an inquest.

August 24, 2016 - 03:05

Benjamin Perez

How about you lick my butthole.

Yes, like them. Reminds me of Harlan County, USA.

August 24, 2016 - 03:09

Brayden Smith

Capitalism, amirite?

Yeah, it is very disappointing. They value the shareholders rather than the common populous or common good. And we praise it in our society.

August 24, 2016 - 03:11

Ethan Cooper

Martin Shkreli did nothing wrong.

He's a glorious accelerationist and you must deal with that fact.

Don't know this one, at least it's not ringing any bells.

August 24, 2016 - 03:13

Andrew Rivera

Well I'd not heard of these "humanitarian actions", but if that stuff you said is true then that would make him a little less shit. He should still reward his workers with a piece of that pie tho.

He is a good example, in the price gouging scandal, of terrible capitalist practices, I'll give you that.

Harlan county is located in Kentucky(my home state), and it's a documentary about exactly what you describe with Lonmin. They ruled the towns, had company stores, their own capital & police force. The documentation of the people fighting back became famous, I'd recommend it watching it. Those practices used to be rampant back in the day, but have mostly stopped. Now they're done more incognito, I'm sure, which is even scarier tbh.

See webm, it's a famous protest song that came out of the Harlan Co. ordeal. (It's Pete Seeger singing, not Guthrie, btw).

August 24, 2016 - 03:47

Oliver Morgan

Derp, this is what you describe with Lonmin & it does happen frequently. Ignore that bit, I just woke up.

August 24, 2016 - 03:52

Jason Jenkins

H A Goodman is doing a reddit AMA in 4 hrs.
youtube.com/watch?v=3qCtP7WYp-A

CTR, etc, already planning to troll it(just like they did with Stein) which goes without saying.

reddit.com/r/Enough_Sanders_Spam/comments/4z7ao5/serious_question_why_is_rpolitics_hosting_an_ama/

reddit.com/r/EnoughHillHate/comments/4z6okm/berniebro_and_antihillary_conspiracy_theorist_ha/

reddit.com/r/Enough_Sanders_Spam/comments/4y4n0r/ama_request_ha_goodman/

Seeing these shills trying to be funny is painful. At least the_donald actually has some bants.

August 24, 2016 - 04:00

Adam Morris

The Goodman vid is titled "NEW CLINTON FOUNDATION SCANDAL: Hillary Clinton Gave State Department Access To Millionaire Donors", btw.

August 24, 2016 - 04:05

Dylan Nelson

Here's the incident which drew attention to Lonmis, although the media didn't report what was going on I did some digging into them and although they're reported as a "London based mining company" pretty much all of the company bigwigs are South African. Black, for what it's worth.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marikana_killings

I was looking for the audio of a song that went like "God bless the Colorado Workers Union" or something like that, sung by a woman, because of your post (I assume you know about the Ludlow massacre, the Pinkertons etc) but all I could find was Guthrie hamfistedly singing about burning kids.

August 24, 2016 - 04:16

Carter Turner

Why does everyone hate him so much? He made good points, even if indictments weren't imminent. I liked his smackdowns of common CTR phrases like "conspiracy theory" and how he kept facts nobody likes to talk about in circulation.
They're literally avid Clinton supporters, they're hardly the coolest kids in school.
Seems like they didn't do a real good job at it. It's hilarious how the only people having aneurysms about the bogus "anti-science" positions were never going to vote for her. Seriously how the fuck is evolved plant labeling anti-GMO.

August 24, 2016 - 06:58

Carter Gomez

They're certainly not right about telling people to support the SEP's underage presidential candidate.

August 24, 2016 - 07:06

Christian Williams

Holy shit, I remember reading about this when it happened. Though it didn't get nearly enough media coverage as you mention. Brutal.

Lmao

I'd heard of the Pinkertons, but not the Ludlow massacre, actually. Reading about it now. One of the biggest recent travesties I see nowadays, is how miners from my own state & many others are actually now defending these coal companies, for muh jobs. Jobs are of course important, but it's like they've completely given up or don't understand the problem or their rights. Or their rights to rights. It's something many conservatives do now & it's like spitting in the eye of your own kin who fought against & died to give you these rights.

August 24, 2016 - 07:26

Gavin Russell

Because he won't shutup & is actual opposition to them in the same publications they seem to rule.

Yeah, him being called a conspiracy nut is stupid. It's all they can say against him. You'll notice all they do it try to find typos or just call him a nut, because they can't actually counter what he's saying with facts. The reddit threads from his articles are completely taken up by these types of comments, rather than discussing the article or subject matter at hand.

He really just seems innocent to me(apparent from how he was so perplexed by Hillary trolls on Twitter; he just couldn't understand how people could be so retarded).

For us Stein supporters we know it's BS, but the ones who are on the fence or more partisan, they just believe it wholesale & never look into the validity, unfortunately. That's what these shills rely on.

August 24, 2016 - 07:30

Sebastian Mitchell

And I just looked into it, Goodman's AMA will be hosted on r/politics, of fucking course. So I guess I won't be able to participate since my ban lets up in 2 days. Anyone know how to get around a reddit ban?

Why on Earth did he agree to do it on r/politics? It's going to be nothing but attempts at trolling & calling him a conspiracy nutter. The shitshow begins in 20 minutes.

August 24, 2016 - 07:40

Adam Diaz

It's even worse here in the UK. We had a miners' strike in the 80's where the police beat the shit out of them, signifying the death of the left and the collapse of the mining industry. Supposedly because it was no longer profitable but it's often said it's because of the NMU fighting the Tories on the streets throughout the ages.

August 24, 2016 - 07:52

Jaxson Hernandez

reddit.com/r/politics/comments/4zd07t/my_writing_in_the_huffington_post_salon_and_the/

Get in here, guys, if you're not banned.

August 24, 2016 - 08:04

Christian Garcia

I've tagged these CTR assholes in the past, and colored the tags red. It's all bright red in there, atm.

August 24, 2016 - 08:06

Gabriel Gutierrez

reddit.com/r/politics/comments/4zd8tt/idiot_wasserman_schultz_says_legal_pot_is_to/

August 24, 2016 - 14:07

Angel Johnson

berniesanders.com/stream/
H-he's back

August 24, 2016 - 14:09

Dominic Martinez

I'm ready for death to take us all

August 24, 2016 - 14:32

Evan Richardson

I sincerely hope she gets JFK'd.

August 24, 2016 - 14:38

Ayden Lewis

So she can die a martyr and be canonized as a saint of liberalism?

August 24, 2016 - 14:56

Parker Rodriguez

Damn it

August 24, 2016 - 15:03

Brandon Miller

...

August 24, 2016 - 15:04

Jacob Lopez

youtube.com/watch?v=OobTUHUzqFk
Voter surpression in the DWS congrssional race

August 24, 2016 - 16:49

Logan Brooks

Is this real?

August 24, 2016 - 17:05

Brody Russell

oh fug, the sandman himself is on

August 24, 2016 - 18:12

Jaxon Brooks

Kek, have you read When Wikileaks met Google? The owners are full on "America is an undeniable force for international good" neoliberal interventionists

August 24, 2016 - 18:33

Ryder Long

Damn it listening to him speak is making me like him again.

August 24, 2016 - 18:43

Dylan Phillips

at least its not his usual stump speech

August 24, 2016 - 18:43

Austin Perry

When is November coming? I just want to see the tears from these degenerates when Shillary will do the same thing she did to us back in the primaries.

August 24, 2016 - 19:04

Liam Wood

I love how literally no B████ supporter thinks he sold out except for cancerous /r/socialism ultras/kiddies trying to entryist, it's all Trump supporters repeating that talking point because they have no lives and have grudges against people for thinking differently, thus schadenfreude even when it's not even the case. They're literally in a stream where B████ ██████ is starting a machine to exert his agenda and give his supporters a voice whining about how B████ ██████ gave up his agenda and let his supporters down.

August 24, 2016 - 19:22

Jace Martin

Did anyone notice "his first run for the presidency" in the intro speech?

Habbiping.

Bernie2016, Hail Hydra

August 24, 2016 - 19:23

Jayden Gonzalez

i meant 2020

August 24, 2016 - 19:23

Easton Foster

meant to bold first i'm retarded please kill me

August 24, 2016 - 19:24

Zachary Gutierrez

Bernie 2020 is Happening. Your dubs confirm it comrade.

August 24, 2016 - 19:39

Jordan Stewart

I was a B████ supporter and I'm disgusted by S█████

August 24, 2016 - 19:41

Robert Bennett

kool thanks for telling me you're an ultra kiddie

Until then, Hail Hydra.

I love all the other hints they're dropping.
>"Against the entire Democratic establishment- and I do mean the entire Democratic establishment[…]"
>"But we didn't do so good on the superdelegates. And that's something we will be dealing with in the future." (further implying future run HNNNNG)
And I'm not even anywhere near Live.

Ted Cruz vs Donald Trump vs Hillary Clinton/whatever plant vs B████ ██████ next primary season calling it now

August 24, 2016 - 19:47

Michael Morgan

WOAH-OHH BLEW MY LOAD TOO EARLY HE'S USING SOME TALKING POINTS I SENT HIS CAMPAIGN IN A SPEECH DRAFT WOAH-OHH THIS IS THE BEST DAY IN MY LIFE

August 24, 2016 - 19:49

Dominic Davis

Pics or I don't believe it

August 24, 2016 - 19:52

Adrian Ortiz

I felt the same after the DNC convention. I still think he could have done more, but I'm at least glad to see him carry on with his ideas in one way or another.

August 24, 2016 - 19:56

Joseph Peterson

Pics related. Yes I'm 16 don't bully
Also-
Bernie man I don't have much more cum left in these nuts

August 24, 2016 - 19:57

Elijah Flores

theintercept.com/2016/08/24/donald-trump-is-spending-more-on-hats-and-other-merchandise-than-on-campaign-staff/
Donald Trump is Spending More on Hats and Other Merchandise Than on Campaign Staff

August 24, 2016 - 20:28

Brayden Bennett

So what's the tl;dw on his speech?

August 24, 2016 - 20:54

Justin Scott

Made a shitty meme about this when it was first reported

August 25, 2016 - 00:21

Nolan Gutierrez

I was referring to when they started, and they specifically tried to avoid being typical corporate slimeballs. Obviously now, they're deep into tax-dodges, offshoring to the lowest bidder, making deals with dictators, and selling identifiable mass surveillance to the highest bidder.

August 25, 2016 - 03:17

Jacob Edwards

youtube.com/watch?v=kHAlX9a_dfA

Hillary speech on the alt right, hoping she destroys them.

August 25, 2016 - 09:58

Jose Clark

When the fuck does that start?

August 25, 2016 - 12:04

Ryan Brown

She is really talking about the alt-right.

August 25, 2016 - 12:34

William Green

So Shillary is speaking about the Alt-Right. How would've [Redacted] handled it?

August 25, 2016 - 12:38

John Thompson

ALT-RIGGERED ON SUICIDE WATCH

August 25, 2016 - 12:43

Ian Taylor

I believe she is the only person who takes Alex Jones seriously.

August 25, 2016 - 12:45

Juan Hernandez

Hilarious at first until you realize that le red autism caps were actually effective.

Trump doesn't know how to be president (which is why he'll have Pence do the work), but he does know how to convince people because he is a TV star. Catchy sound bites and cartoonishly simple symbolic policies that anyone can grasp. Build the wall, MAGA, etc.

August 25, 2016 - 12:46

Caleb Cooper

This has actually lessened my irritation toward Fox News, one of the few things that liberals are right about. Snarling cunts like Kelly and Coulter don't actually care, they're just paid mouthpieces for Murdoch's opportunistic political ends, which is far easier to understand than the thought that they actually believe what they are saying.

August 25, 2016 - 12:51

Gavin Murphy

the left still hasn't adapted to the fact that memes are more effective at controlling the normiebook saturated populace than any form of rhetoric by this point

people have heard it all before, it's never as bad or as good as the politicians tell us. Trump may win or he may not win. What he's already done however is demonstrated the power of populist internet-spread campaign messages in a viable political campaign. Trump came from nowhere and hijacked a political party with nothing. People are watching, taking note of that fact. This will not be the last we see of memes as political tools.

August 25, 2016 - 13:39

Nathan Baker

...

August 25, 2016 - 13:59

Camden Roberts

and before I trigger someone's autism, I know Nick Land isn't alt-right. S█████ wouldn't even bother talking about. he'd just purge them all in secret

August 25, 2016 - 14:00

Mason Price

Trump is a Clinton plant. He's been doing her bidding(and vice-versa) for years.

August 25, 2016 - 14:07

Dylan Clark

trump always has a plan bro

August 25, 2016 - 14:49

Nolan Martin

He didn't come out of nowhere. He's Donald Trump, famous television personality and businessman. You forget he had all this going for him.

His salvo of inflammatory remarks is what launched his campaign. From the moment he said, "Mexicans…they're rapists" he was going to get non-stop media coverage.

Memes don't mean you're going to win e.g. Ron Paul. There's nothing magical about Trump. He did what every opportunistic Rightest has done before him in seeking power: survey the state of the economy, appeal to the base of men who resent the present state, blame an ethnic group for its present state, and gain support of those people. Divide and conquer.

The great irony is that it's all identity politics, Holla Forums's great foe. Trump plays them for chumps.

August 25, 2016 - 15:07

Jacob Gomez

Here it is. youtube.com/watch?v=PP6Q-OEXm4k
I couldn't watch the entire thing. The same 'ol completely orchestrated BS.

Funny hearing her talk about "the internet" & Maya Angelou. She's so out of touch & a terrible public speaker.

August 25, 2016 - 15:42

Thomas Campbell

Lmao, she also talks about the "birther" BS that "Trump" started apparently.

August 25, 2016 - 15:43

Christopher Carter

...

August 25, 2016 - 15:45

Nicholas Martin

I said I couldn't watch it, but now I can't turn away from this trainwreck. She just brought up the "Star of David" tweet that came from "a white supremacist website".

..I wonder which site that could be.

August 25, 2016 - 15:49

Easton Harris

It's all so surreal.

August 25, 2016 - 15:50

Ryan Diaz

But he’s certainly neo-reactionary (and “Dark Enlightenment”), which is the literate, unfunny wing of the alt-right.

August 25, 2016 - 16:22

Aaron Ortiz

He would've made a direct appeal to working class whites that feel disfranchized and alienated with the current left.

He would've talked about how the Alt-Right uses racism to bring about policies that actually run contrary to the interest of anyone who is a member of the working class.

August 25, 2016 - 18:37

Jonathan Green

jacobinmag.com/2016/08/jill-stein-green-party-bernie-sanders-clinton-johnson/
Jill Stein and Ajamu Baraka interviewed by Jacobin

August 25, 2016 - 19:47

Asher Bennett

Well it's about fucking time. I've been waiting forever for her to say this already. The extremist right will only get more extreme without a proper left to alleviate the workers' oppression.

August 25, 2016 - 22:15

Joseph Peterson

Everytime I hear Jill speak it just make me like her more.

August 25, 2016 - 23:42

Hunter Allen

I had no idea Chris was this based. Really wish he would have said yes to Stein's VP offer.

August 25, 2016 - 23:52

Aiden Perez

It really is though, he's a retard who can't rap, just yells a lot

August 26, 2016 - 03:28

Wyatt Lopez

This filthy socdem is the Ben Stein of the "left".

August 26, 2016 - 03:33

Colton Green

The first book I read of his was Empire of Illusion.

I don't believe he's become orthodox Marxist (yet) but he so much closer now than he was when he wrote the aforementioned book as evinced by his use of terminology. It's rather interesting to see his shift.

youtube.com/watch?v=jr4cXH3Fil8

August 26, 2016 - 03:58

Owen Hernandez

He talks like the smuggest asshole holy fuck

Reminder that Hedges will forever be btfo by Graeber

August 26, 2016 - 04:15

Daniel Roberts

He literally says that "Marx was right" all the time lately and he bashes capitalism constantly.

August 26, 2016 - 07:24

Noah Bailey

Well, that's an improvement

August 26, 2016 - 07:25

Thomas Sullivan

>I've actually been in the center of power
Robert Reich worked for the IMF?

Silly Reich, the corporate coup was mostly over by the Clinton presidency. The executive branch of the United States is no longer the center of power.

August 26, 2016 - 07:35

Alexander Collins

He interviewed anarchists for Occupy Wall Street and then talks about Bakunin in Days of Destruction, not that that means much. I do appreciate his slow radicalization, though to me his rhetoric and journalism are worlds beyond his political thinking.

August 26, 2016 - 11:38

Levi Lee

archive.is/ciPnS
Elizabeth Warren says that a vote for Jill Stein is a vote for Trump

August 26, 2016 - 17:40

Bentley Morgan

Bretty Good

August 26, 2016 - 17:41

Camden Hall

Yeah I picked up Empire of Illusion after seeing him speak down in Philly. He definitely moved to the left, which is good to see.

August 26, 2016 - 17:55

Grayson Nguyen

*Shillizabeth Whorren

August 26, 2016 - 18:09

Xavier Reyes

6666 for Trump/Hillary murder/suicide

August 26, 2016 - 18:11

Ayden Jenkins

I'm getting more and more "shrug" about her TBH and would not vote for her if I lived in a swing state. Her efforts to court S█████ voters are super cringeworthy and counter-intuitive. Nevar 5get that like a year ago she was bashing him for being another Democratic Drone!!!!

Jill "Be Green Or Be A Corporate Shill" Stein and Baraka "I don't understand that Obama was scared by the Tea Party's complete takeover of the government and the Republican Party and tried appeasement for a year or so until he realized it wouldn't work" Jama can go fuck themselves, but the other candidates were even more retarded. I think on the grassroots level and local politics level and maybe even the state politics level it's a good machine especially for exerting pressure on the Dems but on a national level and an at-large level we will have to play entryist because at those levels the Greens have lots of larpers and no ideas. Opposing capitalism is the only remotely interesting thing they've done in decades and it's because its LIABN constituency thinks "capitalism" is "capitalism that isn't social democracy". Like sure, vaccine labeling isn't really an issue but it's also blatant moonbat pandering.

What a fucking joke.
In her defense she could simply not understand how the EC works. Politicians have been stupider. Romney didn't even know who Palin was when she was made VP nominee.

August 26, 2016 - 18:11

Lincoln Turner

meme magic isn't real

August 26, 2016 - 18:12

Benjamin Carter

CTR pls go

August 26, 2016 - 18:13

Luis Torres

I was actually at the convention that amendment was voted on and I can tell you not a single fucking person I ran into there was confused on the meaning of socialism and capitalism. There were tons of real socialists there and it was incredibly refreshing.

August 26, 2016 - 18:14

Henry Garcia

fuck off liberal retard. lefties are allowed to disagree with the watermelon-at-best American Green Party. There's no reason not to vote for other parties that are MORE socialist, such as the Party for Socialism and Liberation. They're not going to win either way.

August 26, 2016 - 18:19

Colton Kelly

bad meme faggot

Allow me to move the goalposts and assume those are largely obnoxious champagne leftcom do-nothings. Like the socialist movement at large, unfortunately.
The reason the Greens have failed to entirely convince me is because a) they are a magnet for the Green Tea Party, as some have begun calling it, and literally all of their big figures are some spin on this, and b) they don't have a game plan for practical applications of socialism at any level- local, national, realistic in a near-future Congress or otherwise.
I don't hate the Greens or anything, I just slightly resent some of their ideas. I'm tired of their superiority complex association fallacy bullshit.

August 26, 2016 - 18:21

John Collins

wew

August 26, 2016 - 18:22

Connor Price

And? Green has, what, a few city council members?

August 26, 2016 - 18:24

Wyatt Johnson

I want off this ride.

August 26, 2016 - 18:35

Nathan Morris

Sure… When and where they're running. When they're on most state ballots. When their candidates aren't underage and not even legally qualified to run for president.

August 26, 2016 - 18:48

Jeremiah Stewart

135 city council members and other local positions to be exact. probably some state senators and representatives too.

August 26, 2016 - 19:02

Dominic Brooks

"i have all this pony porn saved on my computer for research purposes i promise"

August 26, 2016 - 19:06

Anthony Ortiz

talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/paul-wolfowitz-may-vote-clinton
Shillary wins another neocon endorsement.

August 26, 2016 - 19:19

Jonathan Parker

lmao
soundcloud.com/timheidecker/i-am-a-cuck

August 26, 2016 - 19:48

Thomas Long

Beat it CTR

August 26, 2016 - 19:56

Carter Young

Clearly the Green Party just has SO MUCH political momentum that it DEMANDS the leftist vote, precluding all other left-wing parties.

August 26, 2016 - 20:24

Jacob Hall

yeah, like this even matters.

August 26, 2016 - 20:25

Christian Ross

bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/2016/08/latest_attack_by_liz_warren_hits_donald_trump_jill_stein

Warren in full sheepdog mode.

August 26, 2016 - 20:34

Ian Parker

Oh gawd the boston globe. May as well be Fox News the newspaper. Can you just tl;dr it for me.

August 26, 2016 - 20:37

Brayden Turner

...

August 26, 2016 - 20:39

Mason Thompson

dude the only reason i think socialist alternative isn't LARPy is because they SORT OF do stuff and it does piss me off they acted like B████ ██████ is some sort of political traitor, the fact they don't join a party with more traction with one elected official is would piss me off as well if they weren't active in the public sphere and civil disobedience. your party is none of those things.

August 26, 2016 - 20:51

Adam Bennett

It sure does when you're running a presidential election.

August 26, 2016 - 23:30

Matthew Hughes

You really have no idea what you're talking about. Just stop.

August 26, 2016 - 23:32

Nolan Adams

Spank you….spank you very much.

August 27, 2016 - 00:03

Jaxon Harris

this

August 27, 2016 - 00:04

Benjamin Gomez

I think he's talking about PSL.

August 27, 2016 - 03:16

Landon Gonzalez

anyone have that webm of the ridiculous intro to his show "On Contact"

August 27, 2016 - 03:25

Dominic Baker

Abby Martin has a ridiculous show on RT too. I wonder if they require their independent English shows to be extra wacky.

August 27, 2016 - 08:30

Austin Ross

Should we design a trump picture after the inevitable asshurt Holla Forumstards will get come election night?

August 27, 2016 - 12:37

Levi Lewis

Yeah, I was talking about PSL. And fuck Wooswoos too.

August 27, 2016 - 12:57

Eli Russell

anyone got a reaction compilation from election night in 2012? Would love to see the Holla Forums tears then in preparation for the upcoming Holla Forums tears this November.

August 27, 2016 - 13:02

Aaron Edwards

Republican porkies are shifting away from the presidential race and starting to buy congressional seats
theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/27/republican-donors-trump-congress-local-races-sheldon-adelson

August 27, 2016 - 15:00

Charles Martin

youtube.com/watch?v=a2WnnEpt5I4

August 27, 2016 - 16:25

Gabriel Walker

youtube.com/watch?v=fEXtXX803QU
REPORT: Most Senate Republicans Secretly Support Hillary Clinton

August 27, 2016 - 18:26

Hunter Williams

Reading up on it, B████'s "Our Revolution" is set up in such a way that it can't LEGALLY work with Canova's campaign. What the hell?

I'm going to make a prediction. If DWS keeps her seat, Hillary will lose the White House.

August 27, 2016 - 18:38

Lucas Cruz

When will we awaken from this demented nightmare?

August 27, 2016 - 18:43

Angel Carter

...

August 28, 2016 - 01:40

Mason Stewart

holy fuck

August 28, 2016 - 02:35

Owen Morgan

10/10

sad day for Bongistan

August 28, 2016 - 03:27

Elijah Bennett

Why do they feel the need to do this shit?

twitter.com/DrJillStein/status/769691238480146432

August 28, 2016 - 07:06

Andrew Foster

BREAKING: Democrats, Republicans Two Heads of Same Monster

August 28, 2016 - 07:09

Hunter Morgan

On the future brainjacksphere, your grandchildren will cringe at you, and you won't know why.

August 28, 2016 - 07:10

Eli Wood

No they won't because I'll either not bother with the hip new trends or I will bother enough to actually know how they work. Kids cringe at old people because old people try to engage in young people stuff but don't actually get familiar enough for it to work. I've known old people who were able to keep in touch with younger generations. It really isn't that hard.

August 28, 2016 - 07:13

Connor Carter

If you take a step back and observe from the outside you gotta admit that the stupidity of leftists is a really fucking cutup

August 28, 2016 - 07:25

Andrew Powell

KEK. Its fucking amazing how unanimously leftist artists always portray other leftists as being ugly.. Even if they wont outright admit it atleast they do subconsciously.

August 28, 2016 - 07:28

John Gutierrez

my body is ready

August 28, 2016 - 07:50

Blake Cook

maybe the top reason I support Stein

August 28, 2016 - 09:59

Adam Clark

...

August 28, 2016 - 12:28

Jose White

Oh god.
She's talking about Harambe now.

August 28, 2016 - 14:15

Samuel King

Anyone have the comic where he's killed for speaking out about "what really happened on 9/11"?

August 28, 2016 - 14:19

Connor Roberts

...

August 28, 2016 - 14:23

Jack Edwards

Oh, exploitable

August 28, 2016 - 14:27

Parker Reyes

...

August 28, 2016 - 14:57

Joshua Hughes

Obama fucked us over with his debt-hawkishess. The stimulus was waaayyy too small. Seriously.

August 28, 2016 - 16:10

Nicholas Cooper

this….this so hard

August 28, 2016 - 16:19

Asher Cox

lel

August 28, 2016 - 17:37

Evan Young

nice argument

August 28, 2016 - 17:41

Nicholas Davis

Would you prefer some Austerity?

August 28, 2016 - 17:46

Jace Cruz

What do you mean? Did it seem like I was being sarcastic?

August 28, 2016 - 18:06

Carson Scott

That's not a sarcastic meme. We should be spending a lot more money. Heaps more. The printing money image is just a metaphor for that, as all government spending comes from thin air anyway. All of it.

August 28, 2016 - 18:10

John Reyes

*all federal U.S. government spending

August 28, 2016 - 18:11

Josiah Kelly

PREPARE YOUR ANUS

August 28, 2016 - 18:11

Christian Carter

An old, rich person's candidate. They saw people angry about Hillary getting involvement in her husband's affairs in the 90s, and they see electing her as retribution against that and all sexism they've experienced. It's like a book ending to a story to them, not a humane decision.

August 28, 2016 - 18:16

Chase Barnes

Pure spectacle

August 28, 2016 - 18:57

Nathaniel Allen

hahahahaha

kill me

August 28, 2016 - 19:02

Luke Cruz

holy shit.

Never mind any of the candidates' policies, I fucking cringe so hard every time I see this bullshit. Hillary has the worst fans I've ever seen

August 28, 2016 - 19:25

Zachary Hill

notice how they're all over 55 and clearly middle or upper class trophy wives

August 28, 2016 - 19:27

Adrian Murphy

What fucking pisses me off (I mean actual anger, not meme bullshit) is that Hilary will destroy the party if she is allowed to do so. Already under Obama the rust belt has become Right-To-Work, and right now Missouri will follow suit once Eric Greitens is elected in November. Kaisch is termed out in 2018 and that is when Ohio falls. Then the front line against porky will get pushed back to Pennsylvania and Minnesota right before the 2020 Census. The GOP will then be able to Gerrymander themselves into a permanently unbreakable Supermajority.

Goddamn boomer porky shits are going to ruin this country for DECADES because they wanted to horde every last drop of wealth for themselves.

August 28, 2016 - 19:32

Asher Cook

mmm mmm mmm Barack Hussein Obama!

August 28, 2016 - 19:37

Gabriel Davis

this video makes me want to vote for trump, if only because it'll mean these people will no longer be able to influence the party

I am not liking this feeling

August 28, 2016 - 19:46

James Adams

If you're one who associated with Democrats, I hope you were one of the very few that were pushing back against Obama's actions when your party was parading him as Jesus Christ on Earth.

Also your party has never been a people's party, and hopefully it dissolves like the Whig Party did, but unfortunately people are too territorial to accelerate that process.

August 28, 2016 - 19:48

Christopher Cruz

Pick one and only one user…

August 28, 2016 - 19:49

Jace Cook

I pushed for him in 2007 because he was going to fix things and kick Hilary out of the party. When she became SoS I realized I had made a huge mistake.

At this point I honestly hope that if Trump wins, the Democrats will either fix their shit or get their vote split by the Green Party. I'd rather have a handful of good states (Maine, Vermont, Minnesota, Oregon, Washington) and a GOP federal government than a corrupt Dem party collaborating with them at all levels.

August 28, 2016 - 19:57

Brody Baker

eh, they were at some point

this is what those young ones turn into

August 28, 2016 - 20:01

Christian Young

Yeah see that… no that was and is the problem with these Democrats you run. You project so much onto these guys.

When he wasn't in front of a teleprompter reading someone else's words (rare) he often gave his line that we should work with Republicans (smh) and that we couldn't afford a large stimulus because debt. Also, he had a record as just a boilerplate corporate Democrat in the Senate.

August 28, 2016 - 20:08

Evan Brown

It wasn't really much of a choice to get bamboozled over. All the other strong candidates dropped out rapidly, and remotely decent candidates like Kucinich and Gravel were too weak for a serious run.

When it came time to vote, the choice was simple: Obama was a blank slate who wasn't openly in favor of free trade, Hillary's husband had passed NAFTA, that was it for me.

2012 basically didn't even have primaries.

August 28, 2016 - 20:11

Jeremiah Myers

What'd I say about projection? These guys aren't blank slates.

Obama is and was a corporatist, self-proclaimed New Democrat who genuinely thought/thinks that we shouldn't have had meaningful government spending because of the debt. He was and is an authoritarian, secretive, and someone who genuinely thought the Republicans had some sort of wisdom worth pursuing with all that idiotic talk of bipartisan *solutions*.

August 28, 2016 - 20:22

Brody Kelly

The mistake I made was thinking that he would not include her in his cabinet, and that she would return to New York and become a Dianne Fienstien type of goon. Instead she was given even more power. Eight years ago I seriously thought he would fix the party. That was clearly a wrong idea.

August 28, 2016 - 20:24

Noah Powell

Not the guy you're responding to but he initially wanted bipartisanship so he could drag the GOP to the center (at least, enough so that he could slip through things like SCOTUS justices) and thus have an easier time running the government. Instead the Tea Party occurred and the neocons lost control of their party.

Then from 2010 on it was all damage control as the Tea Party wanted budget balanced with no new taxes. Obama couldn't find a solution, meanwhile the Senate slipped away from the Democrats as talk of trade reform gradually fell away (except for the House Dems attempt at a NAFTA repeal in 2013. If that had happened, Trump would not exist as a candidate).

He's clearly a career politician and wanted easy solutions for himself rather than fixing things. No more, no less.

August 28, 2016 - 20:28

Asher Rodriguez

Show me one piece of evidence I could've missed in 2008 for Obama being a neolib. The guy had almost no track record as a freshman senator, so he was a total enigma.

That's what I thought, but then the Manning and (especially!) Snowden leaks happened. Bad situation, but this can be fixed, plus it's a perfect opportunity to undo Bush's Patriot Act nonsense, right? Wrong, Obama doubles down on the intelligence abuses, jails Manning, and harasses Assange/Snowden, predictably causing his approval rating to absolutely plummet.

This would be bad enough if it made sense, but there was no political reason for him to do this.

August 28, 2016 - 21:01

Luis Lewis

What the fuck is happening. Is Jill Stein trying to become a literal meme candidate?

twitter.com/DrJillStein/status/769972901428748289?s=09

August 28, 2016 - 22:17

Isaiah Hernandez

The kid being dragged around wasn't voiceless enough.

August 28, 2016 - 23:08

Elijah Thompson

let's be honest, this is probably the only way media will give her attention

August 29, 2016 - 01:50

Jaxon Phillips

Which party's candidate was he again?

August 29, 2016 - 02:02

Leo Garcia

wsws.org/en/articles/2016/08/29/pers-a29.html

29 August 2016

August 29, 2016 - 02:06

Wyatt Carter

Patrick Martin

August 29, 2016 - 02:07

Owen Davis

You niggers in Florida that are in DWS's congressional district better get your nigger asses out to the polls tomorrow.

August 29, 2016 - 02:08

Jose Thomas

Fuck off
WSWS' delusion continues
That's because the speech wasn't about the fucking economy or war!!!
oh my god it's this shit again
damn wsws back at it again with the fucking conspiracy theories
I swear you only post these to piss us off. You never post anything else from WSWS.

August 29, 2016 - 03:22

Eli Gomez

WSWS publishes so many equally delusional articles about other issues in American politics that aren't shilling against S█████ and for their crappy candidate who won't even be on the ballot in most of the country who is fucking ineligible anyway. Do you ever post any of those? No

August 29, 2016 - 03:23

Carson Hernandez

I think it helps to warn us of the sort of delusional contrarian we might become, like for instance.

August 29, 2016 - 03:46

William Hall

well gee Jeremy Horne retired writer PhD in Philosophy from U of Florida Class of 1988 have you considered that the reason this isn't in OR's platform is because there's no way to implement it in modern government and first we need to shift to the left because any bills would be defeated immediately and anything that's not a bill is pointless?
Wow that has nothing to do with the conversation and nothing to do with what revolution means
Might want to tell this to all these guys-
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_revolutions_and_rebellions

August 29, 2016 - 03:54

Julian Anderson

More gold from the comment section-
>The man's entire political record [such as?], his subordination of this movement of the working class to the left behind the shackles of the capitalist Democratic party [this is a laugh], his blatant support for American Imperialism [they really were this angry about that time he said he'd minimize and re-focus the drone program instead of shutting it down], his pathetic call to let the banks "decide themselves" the means "appropriate" for self-appointed breakup into smaller banking units [even though this is the way it's always been done], his entirely non-Marxist world outlook [what is liberty union], the fact that he is not a Trotskyist and has no affiliation whatsoever with the ICFI/WSWS[the fact that this is hilariously sectarian aside his roots are Trotskyist]. The other question worth asking is where is the socialist program in S█████ campaign [cooperatives]? There is none [except cooperatives]. Workers have high expectations completely different to the cynical calculations of Mr. S█████[the polls don't seem to suggest this]. This man will be another Tsipras if given the chance make no mistake about it [source], you support a bourgeois-capitalist [source]candidate utilizing empty 1960s quasi-reformist rhetoric that will all come to nothing [you mean "classic progressive" rhetoric that has a history of change unlike you and your ineligible VP?]. The real alternative will be the campaign of the Socialist Equality Party (US section of ICFI) that fights in the interests of the working class and for real Socialism not some empty-headed "democratic socialism" and some electoral "political revolution." [instead it's empty-headed sectarianism and intentionally going nowhere to prove a point about electoral politics and the need for a violent revolution that will never fucking happen] [and i don't think someone who can't even get into office if he does win is much of an alternative]

August 29, 2016 - 04:15

Sebastian Martinez

I'll stop posting these I promise but first here's some dipshit who doesn't fucking understand mutualism-
lol @ "bernie the bomber"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>none of these are socialist because they're not Marxist Leninist Trotskyist Orthodox Socialists
World Is A Fuck

August 29, 2016 - 04:23

Thomas Davis

One question; why are all you americans so self-absorbed?

August 29, 2016 - 04:29

Adrian Nelson

We have an entire subcontinent to ourselves, minus an underpopulated hat that's pretty much just USA Junior.

August 29, 2016 - 04:39

Lincoln Stewart

The spectacle tells us to be.
It makes it easier to be an imperialistic nation when you don't care about anyone else.

August 29, 2016 - 04:50

Jeremiah Torres

Also, I kid you not, I've had my own countrymen tell me that I shouldn't care about what we do in other countries because they're far away and it doesn't effect us.
Shit makes me salty.
Sometimes it feels like I'm going crazy because so few people actually give a shit.

August 29, 2016 - 04:54

Gavin Jones

I post articles related to the election and its candidates. I do post articles related to other issues pretty frequently too.

I think they're interesting, but pissing you off is just a bonus, especially since wsws was proven completely right regarding S█████' campaign, just like they were right about Syriza and Podemos.

Sorry it hurts your faux left feelings but when you support a democrat don't be surprised when real leftists give you the shit you deserve.

August 29, 2016 - 05:10

Jeremiah Turner

Don't give me that "real leftists" "faux leftists" crap you fucking degenerate, OR is the manifestation of WSWS being wrong about S█████. Podemos and Syriza get demonized because they have debt crises.

These people literally think you're not a leftist unles you associate with them. Take them seriously at your own risk.

August 29, 2016 - 05:20

Nicholas Hall

Lol let me know when the democrats reform us into socialism, "comrade" ;)

August 29, 2016 - 06:14

Nathan Foster

Populist party coup soon, comrade!

August 29, 2016 - 06:23

Ryder Lewis

And vote for the Israel shill? Wow, so revolution.

August 29, 2016 - 07:20

Jacob Taylor

Yeah, I agree. Don't vote for the Israel shill DWS.

CTR get out.

August 29, 2016 - 07:53

Ryan Reyes

What about him?

August 29, 2016 - 08:08

Leo Jenkins

But user that makes the democrats more like this even more like trump and that's even more worse, her husband tried being like Ronald Reagan and that fuck the party, and if you really want "these people will no longer be able to influence the party" vote for Gary Johnson and/or share the info to the people of the usa and with the other country as well so that maybe some from like Germany, Brazil and Iran, for again that people can be informed and so that info can be share to the minority and immigrants of America.

August 29, 2016 - 08:27

Dominic Hughes

When you are in a desert you take what water you are given comrade.

We are just making the best out of what we have.

August 29, 2016 - 08:44

Jaxon Morales

Tim Canova is literally shilling for Israel you stupid cunt.
counterpunch.org/2016/06/02/wasserman-schultzs-challenger-tim-canova-is-even-more-pro-israel-than-she-is/

August 29, 2016 - 08:57

Justin Brown

FUCKING OCEANIAN ANNOUNCER FUCK YOU
>muh Eurasia Ruskis
Fuck you Shrillery learn your own fucking language the term 'racialist' was in fucking use when Orwell and Tolkien were telling Goebels where he could fucking shove it you fucking pill-popping glassy-eyed cow
lol

ech, well that was painful.

August 29, 2016 - 09:09

Matthew Price

this thread reads like a single person has posted at least 80% of the content

August 29, 2016 - 09:26

Jace Murphy

Stop posting then.

August 29, 2016 - 09:28

Eli Parker

...

August 29, 2016 - 09:28

Jackson James

Really? That sucks.

August 29, 2016 - 09:31

William Sullivan

...

August 29, 2016 - 09:33

Luke Hughes

Unsurprising considering you're probably autistic.

August 29, 2016 - 09:35

Dylan Evans

The Democrats are already there. They moved to the "center" years ago and are economically neocon. The choice is to either tell them to fuck off this year, or to have Hilary continue to ruin the party's image and destroy it's power entirely leading to a one-party state. Fixing the Democrats after a Hilary loss is easier than trying to fix it after eight years of her. Also, Trump is right on one issue: trade. His platform includes tariffs which will directly help the American worker and Labor's cause as a whole. If the Democrats move against free trade they will win Congress back again and dump the right-to-work cancer.

My point is that Hilary must go. Collaborators like her taint leftism and make it's goals unachievable. I'd rather deal with two years of Republican bullshit than 20+.

August 29, 2016 - 09:39

Ayden James

absolutely nothing, they just polled that brexit has good scores with voters so he used the word in tweet. He even used capital letters so every retard sees.

August 29, 2016 - 09:41

Samuel Richardson

I'm not enamored with Trump. I most like him because he's not afraid to be politically incorrect and often calls it how he sees it and I get he knows when to listen to advisors but as a president?

Nah, still better than Shillary though.

August 29, 2016 - 10:03

Jacob James

So this is how the US dies, to the chorus of spooked middle aged women with too much free time.

August 29, 2016 - 10:11

Justin Myers

...

August 29, 2016 - 10:50

Isaiah Walker

And so is his opponent - in a largely Jewish district. What's hard to grasp, here?

August 29, 2016 - 10:53

Nolan Martin

9/10 post I can relate to.

Lmao, please link to whatever speech this is(I know, it could be any of them at any given time). I hate this woman so much.

August 29, 2016 - 11:01

Mason Collins

Good luck, user.

If it's one good thing S█████ did, it was to point this fact out to at least half the party's base voters. Before S█████, I considered myself a democrat with no shame. Afterwards, I refuse to call myself one. I knew both parties were pretty corporate, but I naively thought the democrats were less so than the republican party. Honestly I didn't even know the correct definition of socialism before S█████(embarrassing, I know).

There's a lot of good that came from his run. He got many people more involved & educated. We haven't had a major candidate like him for as long as I can remember & I'm almost 30. Fuck his endorsement of Hillary, but I still respect the guy for waking me up more.

August 29, 2016 - 11:10

Liam Miller

Most baby boomers need to just die already.

August 29, 2016 - 11:13

Aiden Thomas

...

August 29, 2016 - 11:20

Luis Johnson

Just vote green, guise.

August 29, 2016 - 12:28

Landon Thomas

pls be fake

August 29, 2016 - 12:34

Noah Jones

Are heterosexual hunchbacks straight or crooked?

August 29, 2016 - 12:39

Kayden Rivera

I'm giving them one more chance. If they remain anti-Labor under Trump (who, despite being a filthy porky, is handing Labor a new life with trade reform) then that's going to be it. If the Democrats want to continue only servicing cosmopolitan Boomers then they will find themselves getting less and less votes as they die off over the next 20-30 years. We'll get that answer in about a year. Sadly, I reckon the Boomer influence is too strong and they won't recognize their mistake.

It's sad to see it happen, because the Democrats threw everything they had away. Same for the AFL, who at every point in the past 20 years chose to endorse these people rather than fight them or lobby them for better policy. Now they themselves have faded away, and the Democrats will follow suit. The Greens will be able to pick up votes in places like New England, the PNW and inland CA as long as they shelve the gun control (this doesn't win elections here, just trust me).

August 29, 2016 - 13:49

Cooper Smith

They aren't "just like us". 50 years ago a 4-year Masters at UC Berkeley cost $2000. This is how my mom got her MA in tax law. My dad made a living wage at a car plant (the infamous GM Fremont Assembly) despite being an alcoholic and drinking on the job. Both managed to buy homes (about $250k each) before age 25, and by the 90s they were refinancing them to buy more homes. Their trusts now manage over 400 units across Northern California and both are millionaires. And they're both for Hilary because Bill "was so good".

For comparison, my education at Hayward State (no bully pls) cost about $25,000 and homes in my area start at the low $800k. Employers only hire if you have at least 4-5 years industry experience and expect you to take an unpaid internship with them first. None of them offer pensions or 401k matching, instead you either get stock options or need to be in management (which typically requires another 4-year BA in business in my experience).

They were spoiled and treat everything that came after them like the disposable diapers that their parents used on them.

August 29, 2016 - 13:56

Logan Mitchell

That both candidates are Zionists.

August 29, 2016 - 13:58

Caleb Edwards

I used to not think they were so bad. But seeing how many put little to no effort into learning about their candidate, it's a little scary. The younger ones do the same, but they don't have the responsibilities that many boomers do, and we use the internet more, which helps exponentially when transferring information.

I hope we will. Like I said, I think the cyber age has really given us an advantage.

August 29, 2016 - 14:30

Luke Brown

Our generation will be remembered as the one that voted the fascists into power

lepoint.fr/politique/presidentielle-2017-un-tiers-des-jeunes-prets-a-voter-marine-le-pen-03-05-2016-2036828_20.php

August 29, 2016 - 14:36

William Hughes

True, the 50s/60s were nice, but remember they started their careers in the 1970s, when the biggest economic downturn since the Great Depression, dwarfing even the 2008 recession, totally obliterating the economy and the job market. Sure, things have gotten even worse now, but for someone growing up when they did, that was apocalyptic.

My parents, for instance came out of college right when the shit hit the fan, and instead of the psychology and teaching jobs they literally had lined up in writing before graduation, both their prospective employers' departments vanished in a puff of budget cuts, so he had to become a trucker, and her a nurse (also, surprise! Single earner households didn't cut it for the working class anymore!). Admittedly, both were still usually able to stick with union jobs back then, but job security was still bad. They're in their 60s now, and still haven't payed off their student debt.

Anyways, my point was less about prosperity, and more about (real and imagined) leftist zeal.

I am truly of the opinion that the internet has turned out to be a bad idea, like the "Kojima warned us!" copypasta said, we've replaced the press as an organized estate on par with any police force or spy service, with a new world of island torture chamberes and circlejerks.

It didn't have to be this way, we could have crowdfunded thinktanks recruiting top talent, bankrolling deep intelligence, and debating each other in formal academic style, all in public view.

August 29, 2016 - 14:48

Asher Ramirez

fugbox is filtered now?

August 29, 2016 - 14:50

Michael Adams

Who knows if it's real. Do a reverse image search & you'll see some hilarious stuff.
One link is from infowars, an article that contains broken links, meaning it was either not true or it was deleted.
infowars.com/california-green-party-promotes-free-slaps-for-straight-white-men/

August 29, 2016 - 15:03

Connor Bailey

At least this is one case where Tim Canova really is a lesser of two evils.

August 29, 2016 - 15:04

Henry Jackson

>territory that allegedly voted for her like 63% or something
I'm fucked either way aren't I.

August 29, 2016 - 15:17

Carter Harris

The genie is out of the bottle, so to speak. We can't stop technology & its advancements now, so I see what you mean.

On the other hand, the internet has been a constant source of enjoyment for me since I was younger. I've learned so much from using it as well. But yeah, that's not a very good trade off considering AI will likely kill us all someday. :^)

August 29, 2016 - 15:19

Nolan Foster

Yes, Lares, you are. We all are currently.

Also can you link to this speech? I'll try to find it on my own in the meantime.

August 29, 2016 - 15:32

William Rodriguez

twitter.com/SenSanders/status/770376321520267264

He knows

August 29, 2016 - 15:55

Christian Harris

The Internet is the idealized form of communication mankind has wanted. An instant communicator in every pocket. I don't consider it better than an educated (and more importantly, caring and professional) press but it is ultimately the endgame of capitalist industrialism. Bankers require means to sell people things, to collect information on them and to communicate with them. The rise of the phone and radio did this as well.

At any rate, what is happening now with communications is a total breakdown of order which Marx himself predicted. Now everyone can make an app or setup their own cryptocurrency making it all worthless. One step closer to true communism. We just need to purge the old order but I'm willing to bet that they will do that themselves.

August 29, 2016 - 17:10

Christian Cruz

I noticed his SenSanders account is a lot less shilly than his main

August 29, 2016 - 17:13

Camden Collins

There is a war coming, and the normalfags are the slave conscripts arrayed against us. If net neutrality can be quashed, if all hardware can be locked down and walled off, if all processing and storage capabilities are offloaded to the cloud, if anonymity and expression are criminalized, if normalfags become such incessantly chattering Stasi collaborators that your negative silhouette in their torrent of blather will betray even the most stealthy recluse as perfectly as if you were normalfagging on NSABook yourself… Then we're permafucked.

Data analysis is getting too good for any feeding of it to be permitted. Unless an organized, automated, mass spam/stalking/trolling attack sustained and brutal enough to make normalfags return to the privacy norms of the pre-2000s and completely evacuate the clearnet, it will turn irreparably into the greatest weapon ever invented against human freedom.

August 29, 2016 - 17:34

Carter Long

I'm really on the fence about this. On one hand you have thing like Advanced Management Technology that is basically a secret computer built into every motherboard since 2007 that no one knows what if fully does. Not even Google could get intel to pull it off for them ffs.

On the other hand facebook and other normie sites are seeing declining revenue and use and it's generally over normies becoming more suspicious of all the data being collected on them.

I think the contradicts of capitalism will ultimately give us an internet free of surveillance but you couldn't get me to put any money on it.

August 29, 2016 - 17:48

Nathan Sullivan

hilary and the MSM really have a thing for middle aged soccer moms

August 29, 2016 - 18:40

Brayden Williams

I'd say I hope these people never run for office but I know they never will and if they did they'd understand strategy for once anyway

Jesus Christ again with the 50+ year old moms? Is that all they can find? If they can find Hispanic Trump supporters they can find young radical Clinton supporters.

August 29, 2016 - 18:57

Christian Stewart

I like middle-aged soccer moms too tbh if ya know what I mean…

August 29, 2016 - 19:09

Ethan Evans

OY VEY, ITS THE DAMN RUSKIES
>washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-is-investigating-foreign-hacks-of-state-election-systems/2016/08/29/6e758ff4-6e00-11e6-8365-b19e428a975e_story.html

August 29, 2016 - 19:10

Adam Morris

It's the only group that (a) likes Hilary and (b) will actually turn out. Blacks won't turn out (like they normally do), especially not for a bitchy white lady from New York. Hispanics don't exist in swing states meanwhile older women will vote Republican because of mah jesus. Younger women (and men) won't vote period or will go third party.

She's desperately hoping that enough of these things will flip to give her swing states. I doubt it'll work.

August 29, 2016 - 19:18

Dominic Gutierrez

Oh god, don't tell me people still believe the "grassroots B████ revolution" bullshit. You're not going to reform the Democrat party from the bottom-up, at best it's just going to give the party a patina of concern for actual Left causes while the party itself does fuck all about said causes

August 29, 2016 - 19:42

Adrian Butler

u wot m8

August 29, 2016 - 20:02

Josiah Hughes

I think that says more than anything else could about the overall prosperity of that period.

I mean really, imagine being in a world where almost half of the world's population was locked out of effective competition with you due to boneheaded economic policies (i.e. India's "License Raj", China's various clusterfucks before "Capitalism with Chinese characteristics", etc)

August 29, 2016 - 20:07

Charles Long

...

August 29, 2016 - 20:08

Bentley Cruz

That and, y'know, the protectionist tariff regime of countervailing duties Nixon ripped to shreds.

August 29, 2016 - 20:24

Camden White

Florida, Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico and in this year Arizona.

August 29, 2016 - 20:27

Samuel Brown

I was thinking the same thing.. If they said the 80s then I could understand, but I don't know much about the general/job market during the 70s. Probably because it wasn't too eventful, but at least a majority of our manufacturers were still located in the US unlike the 80s when they rapidly closed shop across the US.

August 29, 2016 - 20:30

Bentley Gray

The 2008 recession was capitalism's greatest collapse since the Great Depression itself.

August 29, 2016 - 20:34

Oliver Butler

For sure. Besides losing their jobs & some life savings, it really fucked with people's heads, too. Everyone was freaking out, just as they were during the Depression. All in part thanks to Clinton, who repealed the Glass-Steagall Act.

August 29, 2016 - 20:42

Jordan Scott

google clinton ap story

August 30, 2016 - 10:27

Kayden Jenkins

Florida will go for Trump like they've already gone for Scott. Clarke County will readily vote for a local casino owner, and NM will have low turnout. And Arizona isn't in play no matter how much Johnson wants it to be.

August 30, 2016 - 10:29

Jack Baker

spoiler: it's 30+ articles on how evil the AP is for running a mean story on the Clinton Foundation's pay-to-play scandal. It's hilarious how porky really does own all the media, except apparently the AP.

At any rate, it goes to show not to trust any MSM outlet

August 30, 2016 - 10:30

Grayson Davis

I honestly hate Liberals more than Right-Wingers at this point, at least the Right embraces their stupidity, Liberals just pretend its "rational"

August 30, 2016 - 10:34

Julian Barnes

cnn.com/2016/08/29/opinions/ap-gets-it-wrong-on-clinton-reyes/

we are reaching porky asslicking levels that shouldn't be possible

August 30, 2016 - 10:39

Brody Gonzalez

They are totally bought and will always defend their masters. The only solace we can take is that thanks to the Internet their authority and their influence has been greatly diminished. People are waking up, the only ones that aren't are middle aged soccer moms such as

August 30, 2016 - 10:41

Joshua Green

The other major wire services, Reuters and UPI, also seem undaunted:
reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-foundation-idUSKCN1141XU
upi.com/Top_News/US/2016/08/24/Report-Half-Clintons-State-meetings-were-with-donors-campaign-says-schedule-cherry-picked/7021472047260/

August 30, 2016 - 10:53

Kayden Bell

I stopped giving a shit about what the AP says after that fraudulent report on Unpledged Delegate pledges to secure victory for Hillary which undermined the California Primary election (and several other states).

August 30, 2016 - 11:40

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August 30, 2016 - 13:10

Cooper Carter

I feel dirty just reading those.

August 30, 2016 - 13:15

Landon Hernandez

So next you'll tell us to vote Hillary to beat Trump. KYS

August 30, 2016 - 15:05

Samuel Garcia

when Stein nods in agreement that we've become too involved with identity politics and forgot about justice

August 30, 2016 - 15:17

Juan Thomas

Uh, no. Fuck Hillary & Trump. I'm not sure why you think I'd say that.

August 30, 2016 - 15:26

Christopher Cox

I will be voting for Trump as I'm an accelerationist and would like to see capitalism destroy itself sooner rather than later.

August 30, 2016 - 16:18

Evan Long

Of course they do. They're probably the only group left that watches mainstream news.

August 30, 2016 - 17:24

Michael Green

Fuck B████ that neolib socdem-lite traitor fuck.

August 30, 2016 - 18:16

Brody Phillips

I'm in the Green Party structure and I accept most of this criticism. If socialists want to start locals and make it a more revolutionary party they are welcome to, becoming a GP leader is *not* hard.

I will add that with the exception of Stein, I would *not* classify party leaders as bourgeois. As a Green Party leader I can barely afford an apartment, and my co-chair is in 120 degree heat in an unconditioned apartment in a slummy area and frequently can't make meeting due to financial issues.

Compare that to Democratic Party leaders where it's basically

August 30, 2016 - 18:59

Julian Sullivan

I don't see why [Redacted] couldnt campaign for them, it probably would've gotten an easy victory for Canova and Grayson

2018 is the real test comrade.

August 30, 2016 - 19:00

Chase Moore

This. During the election season (especially when his seat isn't up), [REDACTED] should be out there all day erryday pimping left-entryist Democrats in primaries and 3rd-parties in uncontested areas.

August 30, 2016 - 19:25

Dylan James

AP, UPI and Reuters are still reporting on the Foundation pay-to-play scandal and NPR is still getting assblasted over it. Listening this morning it was nothing but damage control by a literal CTR rep, and NPR's hosts regurgitating it agreeing that Trump was evil. Fucking sad what NPR has become.

August 31, 2016 - 09:10

Ryan Peterson

I would encourage all [redacted] supporters in that area to vote Republican just to get rid of her.

The situation with [redacted] is confusing and troubling as fuck.

He can't campaign for Canova, but he will campaign for Hillary? What the hell?

August 31, 2016 - 09:26

Jaxon Bailey

...

August 31, 2016 - 12:50

Christopher Bennett

Seriously, what in the everloving fuck, Sandman?! He didn't even mention him during the Our Revolution speech. I don't fucking get it. Why didn't he help Tim even a little bit??

It's like the movement was about to take a big step forward and ended up falling over right at the start. I'm so frustrated. I'd like to hear something from B████.

August 31, 2016 - 13:07

Robert Hernandez

...

August 31, 2016 - 13:12

Sebastian Martinez

wtf are you saying? There is no worse candidate than Trump, except Hill…

oh

August 31, 2016 - 13:20

Jayden White

Has anyone watched the press conference with Trump and the Mexican president?

It's fucking happening. Clinton and the DNC have fucking doomed us.

August 31, 2016 - 13:36

David Sanders

csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2016/0831/Clinton-is-now-equally-as-disliked-as-Trump
Clinton is now equally as disliked as Trump

August 31, 2016 - 13:38

Mason Lee

I heard that part of the deal with Hillary was that he couldn't actively campaign for tim

August 31, 2016 - 14:03

Jaxson Morales

Does this really surprise anyone?

August 31, 2016 - 14:34

Evan Gray

washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/08/31/clinton-plans-to-slam-trump-as-a-dangerous-isolationist-in-american-legion-speech/
archive.is/KFjHc
Clinton slams Trump as a dangerous isolationist in American Legion speech
post yfw not murdering children in the middle east with predator drones is dangerous

August 31, 2016 - 15:33

Leo Parker

Trump at the press conference:

August 31, 2016 - 15:44

Christopher Morgan

So Ajamu Baraka was on Tim Black's show last night. It was bretty gud.

August 31, 2016 - 15:59

Aiden Price

Speaking as someone who used to be hopeful for a US-style federation in the EU, and who looked up to sensible interventions like what Clinton did in the Balkans, it deeply saddens me that a period of lolbert isolationism right now is the only politically plausible escape I can think of from the neocon/neolib nightmare we're in.

Empire-building, free trade, economic mass migration, transnational corporations, and the subordination of law to commercial liberalization, all of these things are nearing their tipping point. Unless they're stopped dead, and very soon, 1st-world economies will vanish, and we'll be back to global feudalism.

I want global cooperation, mutual aid, universal rule of law, dissolution of borders, and human fraternity, but I think those dreams will have to be postponed for a decade or two.

August 31, 2016 - 16:06

Robert Wright

The problem with Trump is that he isn't even a lesser evil, he will still allow international commerce because otherwise we'll be in Great Depression 2. All he will do is instate petty sweeping bans against Muslims (read: browns) to keep himself popular while Pence pulls his neocon bullshit

August 31, 2016 - 16:30

Carter Cruz

ok

cool

whose laws?

no thanks

and we're back

August 31, 2016 - 16:48

Jaxson Richardson

The fuck nigger?

August 31, 2016 - 16:48

Aaron Morris

Let it go. Some people don't remember the 90's or that the Balkans was a clusterfuck on a grand scale, or they don't realize that this was the singular event that changed NATO into the monster we have now.

August 31, 2016 - 16:50

Angel Hernandez

ahahaha

DWS won her primary

good job florida

August 31, 2016 - 17:36

Anthony Allen

She may very well have cheated like Clinton has.

August 31, 2016 - 17:53

Lincoln Fisher

I don't think she had to. Isn't her district full of wealthy retired FILTEREDs?

August 31, 2016 - 18:01

Alexander Martinez

Reminder that 8/13 of the top people in Our Revolution fucking walked and the other 5 expressed solidarity with them and said they couldn't leave for personal reasons (probably because they need money).

August 31, 2016 - 18:14

Aaron Cruz

Anybody got a stream to Trump's speech?

August 31, 2016 - 18:17

Jaxson Murphy

It's because of Jim Weaver. Nobody likes him.

August 31, 2016 - 18:23

Colton Brown

inthesetimes.com/article/19417/trumps-new-campaign-ceos-website-wants-to-introduce-you-to-the-alt-right
someone just wrote a guide to the alt-right

August 31, 2016 - 18:39

Jaxson Nelson

Here it is.
youtube.com/watch?v=oaF_NwVbIgo

August 31, 2016 - 18:41

Carson Perry

That's quite likely, but there is a possibility he will do something: Tariffs, immigrant quotas, domestic infrastructure spending, stop the wars, ANYTHING. Even if he doesn't, the populist phenomenon behind him would be strengthened by a victory against what Clinton now represents, and if Trump betrays those who backed him, they might even be smart enough to notice, and get even angrier. A Clinton victory would utterly demolish everything [REDACTED], Trump, and the wave of anti-neocon/neolib populist rage sweeping the rest of the world stood to accomplish.

This is potentially the biggest political upset in our history since they tore down FDR's America in the 1970s, we can't let it slip through our fingers.

Just the basic stuff pretty much everybody can agree on. Y'know, genocide, slavery, censorship, trial without jury, basic stuff.

I meant well after we've achieved legal and economic harmony, not before.

Not saying it was anywhere close to perfect, but I think it's pretty obvious things turned out better than if we'd simply let them butcher each others' civilians unrestrained.

GOD FUCKING DAMNIT! is absurd, Shillary would've had to promise him the entire cabinet and DNC chairmanship for it to be justifiable. "Our Revolution" can't happen if [REDACTED] doesn't pour money, volunteers, and 24/7/365 shilling in person to a formal slate of entryists. It is literally the only thing he is supposed to be doing, other than sitting on Vermont's senate seat.

Refusing to campaign aggressively frustrated me, refusing to challenge the blatant election fraud in the courts frustrated me, even conceding the primaries before the convention only frustrated me. But this, this!? MAKES MY BLOOD BOIL.

That's it, unless there's an incredible explanation, I am absolutely done with [REDACTED].

August 31, 2016 - 18:59

Jack Hernandez

At this point I'm 90% sure he was nothing but controlled opposition from the beginning. Too much of what he did put him at an obvious disadvantage for no reason. He could have won the primary, if not in the official count then in the courts.

August 31, 2016 - 19:35

Oliver Scott

God all of these fucking faggots infiltrating the thread again.
Bernie didn't campaign for Tim Canova because he was emotionally exhausted and it would have done more harm than good in a Clinton district. OR has legal restrictions regarding supporting him.
Bernie didn't campaign for the other guy because he was a chucklefuck.
Bernie didn't challenge the election fraud in court because it would have split the party apart, fucked over his cause more likely than not and handed the presidency to Trump giving the Tea Party three level control.
He didn't campaign with the Greens because the Greens are sectarian as shit to fuck (Baraka even basically called him racist on the assumption that he would continue the drone program at the extent that it is now, and not downsize it, you know, like he said he would) and he once again would have had his cause fucked over by the Clintonites. None of the groups on the American Left know how to work with each other which is why we have like 6.
He was not controlled opposition, he was not a sellout, he was not a socdem. These things are more than evident if you know anything about him.
Seriously though your left needs to get your shit together, I don't know how and I realize it may involve abandoning old institutions entirely given that they're full of LARPers. I think Socialist Alternative is a decent-ish vehicle and is relatively LARP-free, so try that maybe? Puerto Rico has a couple of different groups but they're not at each other's throats and we're smart enough to maintain only one political party.

It was 7 of 16 but thanks for being homosexual anyway

August 31, 2016 - 20:37

Luke Harris

Only infiltrator here is you pal.

Yeah, and the Tea Party is so much worse than the Democrats, amirite CTR shill?

We don't know either way.
He very much sold out at the convention when he didn't contest it, or any of the primaries, and when he endorsed Clinton.
His positions are the definition of socdem, do you think this word is just a meme or something?
wew you talking down to me sure makes me doubt if I'm correct

uh huh
yeah, just abandoning the principles of leftism is how to make leftism victorious
Go fuck a meat grinder.

August 31, 2016 - 20:55

Lincoln Butler

Though I disagree with the rest of your post, it is reasonable. This, however, is ridiculous.

How does rooting out electoral fraud, restoring Americans' faith in their public institutions, throwing out manipulative crooks, and tossing bought reporters in jail (that's right, THE MEDIA can be held legally responsible for intentionally misreporting on the election!) split the party or favor the Republicans? Such efforts easily could've snowballed to encompass the ABSOLUTELY MASSIVE gerrymandering and poll corruption nationwide that is largely responsible for upholding most GOP seats.

There is absolutely no reason not to have done this.

August 31, 2016 - 21:03

Gavin Ramirez

porky is getting lazy

August 31, 2016 - 22:34

Owen Morgan

...

September 1, 2016 - 05:31

Jeremiah Reed

Personally, I think he was meant to be controlled opposition. As a person and candidate, I think he was genuine, and he meant to do the things he said he'd do.

but in the end he's still a part of the political machine, and he has nowhere near the resources that clinton has. I saw the pictures from the convention too where he had these gashes and bruises on his face, and then with all these other people dying around Clinton…

The way it seems to me was that he was in a political straight jacket and was up against pretty much the entire democratic party. It's pretty amazing that he was able to get as far as he was, despite the incredible odds he faced.

America's courts? I think that's even more unlikely than winning the primary through the rigged voting machines. Comey had Clinton dead to rights on multiple felonies and she still walked. B████ could have showed up with DWS's signed and witnessed confession and these hacks still would have found some way to fuck him.

Welcome to Whose Country Is It Anyway! Where everything is made up and the laws don't matter!

September 1, 2016 - 05:38

Dominic Evans

that's kind of screwed up

September 1, 2016 - 05:41

Zachary Lewis

Yes the Tea Party is worse than the Democrats. The Tea Party will make American hierarchy worse. The Democrats will just sustain it.
Why are you even entertaining that idea? Are you suggesting a 30+ year long con?
He said he'd support the Democratic nominee to prevent Republicans from controlling all three levels of government.
His personal beliefs and his campaign platform aren't the same thing.
Old institutions, fuckface. Old groups. Not the principles of leftism, just old groups.
Do you mean actual idpolers or "socialists who acknowledge that class, race and gender are interwoven"?

September 1, 2016 - 07:17

Eli Barnes

He sold out. Face it (or stop shilling), and move on. There's plenty in his past where he's done strange things similarly, but arousing the people's interest was worth it for the people themselves.

Still clinging to him, though, as he's on the sell-out part of his ride, is suicidal. If he was being honest at this point, he'd step back and vanish from the political sphere. Instead he's out shilling for the continued sellout.

The democratic party has more or less pushed forth the same neoliberal (capitalist) pro-rich, anti-poor policies that the Cock brothers in their "libertarian stance" are all for. (who once upon a time actually ran for the libertarian party's candidacy, in the 80s or some shit)

He said he'd support the democratic nominee, whoever it may be, after the competition for it was over. He started doing it before such, and he didn't touch the fraud with a ten-foot pole.
He chickened out, and isn't even taking the only "good" way out he has (which is to piss off).

Ignore S█████, and sure as fuck don't defend what he's doing now.

September 1, 2016 - 07:39

Grayson Mitchell

wew he has a job you fucking moron
i don't know why you think that because the new dem platform actually isn't too different from the green party platform or the bull moose platform or the 1932 democratic platform or the populist platform.
oh wait yeah i do: it's because you're a contrarian. gb2 Holla Forums
yeah actually the competition was over dude it was clear none of the superdelegates were going to switch early on and an endorsement isn't a concession
i'd love to see you not "chicken out" of this situation. other people have already pointed out american courts aren't going to do shit. and you apparently want him to quit his job, his agenda through OR, and possible 2020 aspirations because he endorsed hillary clinton like 6 days too soon for your sore ass? get real

September 1, 2016 - 07:52

Easton Wilson

the "platform" literally doesn't matter

September 1, 2016 - 07:52

Adrian Hernandez

I always had issues with the sneaky "we won't call it capitalism but we oppose 'that thing over there' but yea let's not say capitalism", nothing contrarian about it.

I'm not a Holla Forumsfag, though I have no issues with Holla Forums. I supported and still support the mass gathering of people and what *they wanted* (and actually voted for) which is not what they got. It's proof amongst many other things, that the US democracy and election is a complete fraud, and that it was witnessed by this time millions instead of just a handful was good.

That you're actually shilling for going along with it, is brutally ridiculous.

September 1, 2016 - 08:10

Connor Turner

The Greens do not take corporate/rich campaign contributions and are openly anti-capitalist now. That alone is a world of difference between the two platforms.

September 1, 2016 - 10:12

Elijah Wood

No, it is not. You either do not know what you are talking about, or are lying.

The Green Party platform calls for a rigorous carbon BAN (not taxes), as well as doubled income taxes to pay for grid modernization. The GP also supports road tolling (which helps the environment as it lowers VMTs and offsets the cost of road maintenance) which the Democratic party absolutely does not (at least not west of Chicago). The Green Party also wants the military shrunk down.

September 1, 2016 - 10:38

Elijah Gray

gay post

of course it was a sham, but we can fix that later. right now it's in your best interests to vote dem where green doesn't have a chance or isn't running a candidate.

that's about it, though

nobody cares nobody cares nobody cares and nobody cares, you fucking greenie

September 1, 2016 - 12:33

Grayson Williams

How is it in my best interest to vote for Hillary Clinton, OR Trump? And aren't you completely ignoring the fraud when you say Stein or an alternative candidate stands no chance… because of the fraud you're ignoring and excusing? What the fuck are you talking about?

Clinton wages wars, Trump wants to wage wars. They're both deceitful liars, they're both capitalist scum. They're even friends, and have been for a decade or more.

And again you ignore the fraud that lead to this obvious setup. Instead of addressing it, you want me to give legitmacy to it by voting for either of them, when between the two of them it doesn't matter (especially after seeing how it REALLY DOES NOT MATTER who you vote for, the results will magically claim a completely different outcome), fuck is wrong with you?

Go suck a porcupines' spike and pretend it's a dick.

September 1, 2016 - 12:53

Thomas Ross

Enjoy your 50 cents. Don't go wasting it all in one place.

September 1, 2016 - 12:56

Jack Russell

reddit.com/r/politics/comments/50o3c0/white_nationalists_and_selfidentified_nazi/

"White nationalists and self-identified Nazi sympathizers located mostly in the United States use Twitter with “relative impunity” and often have far more followers than militant Islamists, a study being released on Thursday found"

Lmao they did a study on trolls, and compared them to ISIS. I wish I were joking.

September 1, 2016 - 14:28

Aiden Thomas

In other news Al Gore literally still cannot take responsibility for losing the 2000 election.

archive.is/o6GPG

September 1, 2016 - 15:03

Cooper Taylor

Imagine if Democrats took this as a signal to start pandering to Green party votes instead of trying to attract moderate Republicans?

September 1, 2016 - 15:11

Andrew Smith

I think they already have, they're just doing it the wrong way. Instead of saying "we'll move/have moved closer to you" they say "no you need to come over here for your own good". Not even Clinton seems interested in moderates any more.
If you've noticed, the smear machine on Trump has slightly slowed down. I think they realized they claimed all the territory they're going to claim on that front and are trying to win the left back. Clinton coming out against TPP (however legitimate) was part of this.

September 1, 2016 - 15:36

Charles Moore

I'm thinking moderate liberals not anyone really on the left. Anyone that doesn't like Clinton has moved to Jill, Gary, or Donald in that order.

September 1, 2016 - 18:52

Dylan Hughes

Exactly, and they're like "no you can't do that"
-
The Puerto Rican governor debates were today. We have three candidates that are genuinely leftist (though not (explicitly?) socialist) and while I like all of them I'm afraid they'll split the vote. Then there's Cidre, who is kind of positioning himself as a down-to-earth morally straight fix-it man, and then the two main candidates, Rossello and B████r, who are going for "neoliberal smol gubmint waste-cutting peddler" and "don't-rock-the-boat" centrist respectively. Even though Cidre isn't as close to the other three politically as they are to each other, I think the way to go if we want change is to form a unity opposition ticket. I personally think the perfect face for this coalition is Lugaro due to her post-partisan positioning and current lead out of the four. In fact, this is such a good idea I think I'm going to write a letter to the four of them about it.
Just giving you guys a status update.

September 1, 2016 - 20:05

Asher Rivera

How is the grassroots movement going to get Bernicratic candidates elected anyway?

September 1, 2016 - 22:23

Aiden Johnson

They will somehow magically overcome the election fraud that cheated B████ out of the nomination and somehow get enough money to outcompete the porky shills that inhabit the party.

September 1, 2016 - 22:24

Evan Lee

Is this real life?

Hillary is a God-tier porky enabler, Trump is a porky gone rogue that is now hated by the much bigger porkys for being a class traitor.

September 1, 2016 - 22:35

Adam Nguyen

He's the same shit, just with different icing on top

September 1, 2016 - 22:54

Charles Kelly

They can't keep getting away with it.

September 2, 2016 - 06:28

Jayden Richardson

Does it even matter? Congress already passed PROMESA which turns Puerto Rico into an island of slaves.

September 2, 2016 - 06:32

Dominic Young

wsws.org/en/articles/2016/09/02/pers-s02.html

2 September 2016

September 2, 2016 - 06:57

Lucas Gonzalez

Patrick Martin

September 2, 2016 - 06:58

Caleb King

more proof that the MSM is garbage and not trustworthy

September 2, 2016 - 10:16

Thomas Wood

wot

September 2, 2016 - 13:02

Justin Lee

They usually write several versions of their newspapers before some major event and they publish the one they deem more fitting to the progress of the event.
Way to diminish the delays of publication, capitalsim in action

September 2, 2016 - 13:05

Jayden Ward

How was this uncovered?

September 2, 2016 - 13:36

Brandon Perez

washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-releases-hillary-clinton-email-investigation-documents/2016/09/02/21bd3682-704c-11e6-8365-b19e428a975e_story.html
FBI releases Clinton e-mail investigation documents

September 2, 2016 - 14:04

Lucas Hernandez

what do I do, it's such a mess

September 2, 2016 - 16:03

Nolan Bailey

Literally everyone does this (because they must in order to compete) and they sometimes fuck up and release an unfinished version or the wrong one. You see it sometimes on their online articles, they publish the wrong one and then a few minutes later they put the right one in. There was a post (ITT I think) where some site published an article on this exact subject where it was formatted like [ DONALD TRUMP SOFTENS HIS STANCE ON THE WALL AND LOOKS LIKE A PUSSY FAGGOT / DONALD TRUMP DOUBLES DOWN ON THE WALL AND PISSES EVERYONE OFF ] and they forgot to delete the wrong version before publishing it.

Here it is
This kind of shit has been happening more and more lately.

September 2, 2016 - 16:07

Eli Sanchez

It actually does, because we need a governor who can deal with the FCB adequately and play hardball.

hey wswsgrillsfag on average how many dicks do you suck per hour and on average how long are they and what would the average skin tone be and on a scale of one to ten how would you rate the experience also why do you suck dicks why have you made this choice with your life

September 2, 2016 - 16:41

Brody White

How is he going to "deal with" and "play hardball" with an unelected body that has practically unlimited power over the government of Puerto Rico?

congress.gov/congressional-report/114th-congress/house-report/602/1
SEC. 108. AUTONOMY OF OVERSIGHT BOARD.

(a) In General.–Neither the Governor nor the Legislature may–
(1) exercise any control, supervision, oversight, or review
over the Oversight Board or its activities; or
(2) enact, implement, or enforce any statute, resolution,
policy, or rule that would impair or defeat the purposes of
this Act, as determined by the Oversight Board.

The act also gives them jurisdiction and makes the oversight board the sole authority to "declare and administer territorial instrumentalities" and is further given carte blanche to ensure that whatever credit payment deals the FSB makes with PR's creditors are enacted and enforced. They also control what budgets are made and how, and only answer to the POTUS.

So I'm curious, what exactly do you expect your governor to do, my autistic amigo?

September 2, 2016 - 17:17

William Roberts

I already knew all that. Ultimately all the FCB can do if we defy them though is threaten military action which would be a disaster for US dominion of Puerto Rico.
Thanks for the insult, though.

September 2, 2016 - 17:56

Jaxon Morgan

That doesn't really answer my question.
Alright, I take it back, you're not my amigo.

September 2, 2016 - 18:43

Jaxon King

youtube.com/watch?v=tjLA36kIaok
Based Jimmy purges Clinton shill John Iadarola live on youtube.

September 2, 2016 - 20:37

Noah Fisher

I can be more specific if you want.
Accelerationist version:
OK! (:
Oh it's actually because I have no fucking intention of doing any of this. :^)
And lose us forever? Lose all your precious billions? We think not.
(Presuming they actually manage to send the national guard or the armed forces or whatever it'd be a PR disaster at the UN. Hell, even the threat would be a PR disaster at the UN since the UN already thinks we're a colony. Wouldn't even be the first time they've waged war on us and we can certainly do it again, look up PRNP revolts of the 1950s. Even if we attempt to fight back it will be interpreted everywhere as American interventionism, neoimperialism and paleoimperialism at work. If they don't send anything even better because we basically just won sovereignty and we didn't even need another stupid fucking vote-splitting referendum.)
Cuck version:
Yeah that's great but we're not doing Article III like at all.
No.
Will you?
(Clinton tells them to try something less expensive and shitty first and use the army as a last resort)
Great, thanks.

September 2, 2016 - 20:54

Ryan King

Oh, in contrast to Rossello version:

September 2, 2016 - 20:58

Matthew Wright

wsws.org/en/articles/2016/09/03/sand-s03.html

By Patrick Martin
3 September 2016

September 3, 2016 - 07:28

Logan Ortiz

...

September 3, 2016 - 07:29

James Walker

Objectification and sexualization of Oriental women is a form of heteropatriarchal neocolonialism.

September 3, 2016 - 07:44

Nathan Cooper

...

September 3, 2016 - 07:46

Eli Barnes

I'd rather picture him in a drum major's uniform than a cheerleader's

September 3, 2016 - 08:17

Andrew Garcia

…Or just out of place and tasteless.

What absolute polysyllabic nonsense. Seems awfully excellent to limit the agency of homosexual Asian women with such a muh privileged heteronormative eurocentric characterization.

September 3, 2016 - 08:31

Carter Torres

People should really go to these rallies just to boo every time S█████ mentions Clinton.

September 3, 2016 - 08:56

Dylan Jackson

Why do you always post pictures of these tiny flat Asian women with your articles?

Post busty Japanese women like Hitomi Tanaka

September 3, 2016 - 12:11

Cameron Stewart

Sorry. Ushijima-san is the perfect woman. We don't need any others.

September 3, 2016 - 12:27

Nathaniel Jenkins

Not my comrade

September 3, 2016 - 12:35

Blake Johnson

hey wswsgrillsfag on average how many dicks do you suck per hour and on average how long are they and what would the average skin tone be and on a scale of one to ten how would you rate the experience also why do you suck dicks why have you made this choice with your life
Also the goal of Our Revolution is not to vocally oppose anything it doesn't like such as Hillary's absurd cyberwar position, it's not an advocacy group

September 3, 2016 - 13:53

Connor Campbell

...

September 3, 2016 - 13:55

Owen Stewart

...

September 3, 2016 - 14:20

Christian Morales

This is false. The main attack thrown against Canova during the election was that Canova was "not really a Floridian", actually being backed by a shadowy outsider cabal of saboteurs with no genuine interest the representation of DWS' beloved home county.

Of course, nobody ever brought up the fact that DWS herself is backed by a real global cabal of porkies, but that's beside the point.

September 3, 2016 - 14:47

Jonathan Williams

Hi WSWSgrillfag. It would help if you would answer his question.

September 3, 2016 - 15:13

Easton Ward

reddit.com/r/politics/comments/50utmo/fbi_releases_documents_in_hillary_clinton_email/

Of course it's a mega thread. Anyway, the FBI had to admit that Hillary's server was indeed hacked. As if we didn't already know that.

Some hilariously scary emails in there. She clicked on a phishing email that led her to porn. And she was receiving many of them. You've got to be fucking kidding me, with this level of incompetence, all around.

September 3, 2016 - 16:20

Xavier Brooks

Trump just hired David Bossie, the guy who headed Citizens United, as his new deputy campaign manager

September 3, 2016 - 16:25

Robert Watson

forgot links
youtube.com/watch?v=kH8MEqRVdmo
washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/09/01/trump-enlists-veteran-operative-david-bossie-as-deputy-campaign-manager/

September 3, 2016 - 16:26

Cameron Adams

Pretty embarrassed that there are self-proclaimed leftists on this board who say they'll vote for Trump desu

He's hardly any different from Clinton. He's basically Dubya 2.0

September 3, 2016 - 16:32

Easton Peterson

What's wrong with Citizens United? Any nefarious history. All I found is that its some kind of organization that wants transparency from government.

September 3, 2016 - 16:36

Noah Johnson

A win by them in Citizens United vs. Federal Election Commission is what opened the floodgates for unlimited campaign contributions.

September 3, 2016 - 16:42

Tyler Sanders

...

September 3, 2016 - 16:44

Eli Walker

Trump wants all the shit Clinton wants, he just wants someone else to pay for it

September 3, 2016 - 16:46

Anthony Wood

There is a slim, tiny chance that he may stop the neocon WWIII-baiting, or the neolib offshoring/migration. There is a 1000% chance that Clinton will not.

September 3, 2016 - 16:52

Caleb Phillips

The worst part are the relentless shills and there "But she did nothing wrong!"

September 3, 2016 - 16:53

James Sullivan

Not surprising honestly

September 3, 2016 - 16:58

Michael Kelly

Do they have a personal website that says this? Lmao, couldn't be farther from the truth. They want to enlist corporate dollars to infiltrate & influence our government further for their own interests.

That was the case that made corporations "people", right? I believe because they used the first amendment to defend it.

September 3, 2016 - 17:06

Jordan Price

Pretty terrifying that it was hard for me to tell which is which.

September 3, 2016 - 17:07

Michael Reed

r/politics is shill country, now. They stay on top of the new & rising stories to bury any anti-Clinton article. They also upvote the least anti-Clinton comments to the top. Check out this one's top comment:
reddit.com/r/politics/comments/50ylk2/hillary_clinton_rarely_seen_rarely_heard_the/

You also get banned for calling anyone a shill or even a troll. They're doing overkill on damage control. It's shit, but I still use it to counter their BS, and fuck with CTR; they're so delusional.

September 3, 2016 - 17:12

Justin Perez

FBI statement:
FBI report:
I'm just hoping that theory that they're waiting for their investigation on the Clinton Foundation to wrap up because they think it could be bigger and they don't want to miss their shot is true.

September 3, 2016 - 18:01

Gavin Cooper

Never mind, it wasn't her server that got hacked, it was Bill Clinton's aide's or something.

September 3, 2016 - 18:06

Jace Martinez

ok so it WAS her server but not her e-mails. OK

September 3, 2016 - 18:06

Christopher Flores

Pretty sure they had multiple servers & both used them.

? It was her server and her emails.

September 3, 2016 - 18:09

Daniel Collins

Can't find any source on that. To me it seems like Guccifer did successfully hack Bill Clinton's aide and bragged about hacking "Hillary Clinton's server" nonspecifically even though he couldn't get into her actual account proper.

September 3, 2016 - 18:20

Liam Stewart

The way I heard it, the FBI can't tell if her server was hacked because security on her server was so lax. I guess it's kind of like trying to figure out if someone was in your home taking pictures when you left the door open.

September 3, 2016 - 18:26

Sebastian Gomez

It's very clear that someone in fact did hack Hillary's email as well as the DNC server. We have the documents to prove this. That reddit megathread posted above also has info regarding how her email was hacked. She apparently clicks on phishing links, so it's not hard to discern.

Basically. Comey said the likelihood of an enemy state/country with ulterior motives could very well have hacked without leaving fingerprints. I believe he insinuated in his statement that it's highly likely that occurred. Comey even said that she would've been more protected using freaking gmail, lmao.

September 3, 2016 - 18:38

Charles Foster

I want to believe that Holla Forums's Hilary jail fantasy will come true.
I want to believe that she will actually be dumped as the nominee in some way.

September 3, 2016 - 18:41

Dylan Ross

At first they said there was no evidence the servers were hacked. Now they say they were hacked, but not Clinton's email. As if someone who can hack a server wouldn't be able to hack her email. And as if that email wouldn't be much more tempting than some peon Clinton aide's. Absurd.

September 3, 2016 - 18:42

Ian Moore

Why, so we can get Tim Kaine or some other shithead?

No thank you.

September 3, 2016 - 18:48

John Lewis

It's clearly an ass pull. Comey is not ready to say that yet as it would imply a lot of things (specifically, that Hilary's incompetence crossed the point of criminal negligence). Right now it's a matter of time before the thin blue line gets crossed and Comey is forced to recommend an indictment to Lynch. The other option is to be dragged in front of Congress again, who can go all the way to the top (Obama) if they want to.

I think the question isn't so much "did Hilary do something illegal" and more will Obama burn his legacy down for her career?

September 3, 2016 - 18:48

Gavin Moore

If it even gets that far, Trump will handily win.

keyword: IF

September 3, 2016 - 18:49

Caleb Williams

The Clintons have twisted the Dem party into everything it should be fighting. I want to see an indictment days before the election, with Kaine there to get curb stomped by Trump. The party will have effectively melted itself down to the ground, as they don't have a plan b for everything after 2016. Fuck's sake, the party's own politburo are all CTR people now following the post-hacking resignations.

September 3, 2016 - 18:55

Alexander Nelson

Anyone know anything about Michael Trimm? I've read some here & there about this guy. Some people are saying his Youtube channel went black recently & he was reporting/investigating the server scandal/Clinton Foundation. Some were saying he "got too close" lol & some government agents shut him down.

Just found out about this guy but wanted to know if any of you had any info or have heard of him.

September 3, 2016 - 18:58

Zachary Barnes

The Democratic Party is the Clintons; there is nothing to save, there is only chaff for the fire.

September 3, 2016 - 19:00

Gavin Hall

You really just asked why? To let that bitch get her comeuppance. I'll take an indictment or seizure onstage during the debate. But much rather an indictment because the seizure would give her a sympathy card to play.

Also this
It's been amazing seeing how far right people will argue to support her. They literally are defending superPACS, Citizens United, war actions/"regime change", saying that politicians & businessmen aren't corrupted. It's like we're in some alternate universe. Normies are stupid, but gotdamn.

September 3, 2016 - 19:02

Parker Johnson

Yes, why?

September 3, 2016 - 19:07

Charles Kelly

Because I desire it.

September 3, 2016 - 19:20

Brayden Robinson

The fact is, most Normies over 40 are EXACTLY her. Middle aged soccer moms are 1:1 what Hilary is, their husbands being has-beens like Bill is. Both will turn out for her because she promises to be doubleplusgood on social issues (a thing these people cared about in their youth) but she won't touch their taxes, their homes, their freeways, their cheap gas or their medicare. These are people who honestly don't care if they burn down the middle class or the country because they'll be dead in 30 years anyway.

It's fucking disgusting and absolutely frustrating. All I want at this point is her to be exorcised from politics because regardless of the Democrats she herself is a horrible influence.

September 3, 2016 - 19:26

Benjamin Howard

She clicked on the link but there's no evidence that lead to any hacking.

Unfortunately, at least with the BHO and HRC hating each other thing, he's full of shit. I read Game Change and Double Down.

September 3, 2016 - 19:55

Jaxson Smith

youtube.com/watch?v=u52Oz-54VYw

Love me, Love me, Love me. I'm a liberal.

Sure, bud. The FBI just admitted that their server was hacked. But I'm sure they didn't want any of that juicy Clinton biz to look through.

September 3, 2016 - 20:04

Landon Jones

Her SERVER was hacked, not her ACCOUNT. It had several other accounts on it.

September 3, 2016 - 20:15

Michael Lewis

Obama may have been nice to Hilary in 2008 to help unite the party, but it's 2016 and everything she did during her term has resulted in total failure.

Look at it like the President would: all his foreign policy goals have failed. Post-pullout Iraq has totally collapsed, to the point where concessions to Iran (the Iran deal) had to be made in order to ensure that Baghdad did not fall like Saigon did. Northern Iraq is still a total shitshow, and Assad is still in power while Erdogan goes on a YPG killing spree and turns Turkey away from Democracy and towards Russia. The Saudi regime is falling apart, held on only through US airstrikes and special operations. ISIS runs unchecked, committing atrocities in both the US and EU.

Out in the Pacific, China is more aggressive than ever and is not willing to negotiate on their claims. Meanwhile the EU is falling apart, with every country there rejecting the TTIP. She won't even go to bat for his TPP because she knows it's not a thing she can afford to endorse (as the bill's Republican sponsor Ted Cruz lost to Donald Trump).

Everything she touched has gone to shit. And Obama will be the one who gets blamed for it.

So no, I don't think he will stick up for her. Not that I necessarily agree with the rest of the fantasy I originally posted.

September 3, 2016 - 20:16

Caleb Edwards

I don't even care whether or not it's entirely true, I hope the news takes this tack, it would be hilarious watching all the salt and denialism.

September 3, 2016 - 20:25

Jose Taylor

No, as in he explicitly wanted her for SoS.

September 3, 2016 - 20:56

Samuel Young

No, Obama's legacy was secured when he became First Black President™. He'll be warmly remembered like Reagan - though no-one will be able to state with certainty what his greatest accomplishments were, they'll be able to handwave away any serious thought with some blather about how he "united the nation with hope", "represented America's post-racial aspirations" or whatever.

And if that doesn't work, well even FDR couldn't fix the mess Dubya left with a Republican House!

Also no-one likes Hillary enough to blame her fuck-ups on Obama

September 3, 2016 - 20:59

Andrew Davis

That's exactly what will happen, especially if she is somehow elected. Everything is shit and she will blame it on the past President. She'll initially try to blame it on Bush, but that's already stale and she (and the media) will quickly blame Obama for being too placating towards the progressive antiwar dems. No honor among thieves.

Only boomers, aka people who are already voting for Hilary. Everyone else, especially people under 30, are disappointed in him. Even blacks are upset with him because he did not stop the police shootings (not that he ever really could) or stop their jobs from going to mexico. He'll also be remembered as the President who did not fix the Democrats' swing state problem and cause a GOP Supermajority Congress.

Also plenty of people like Hilary enough to blame Obama, who will be painted as "too left" to have done anything. The shift right continues.

September 3, 2016 - 21:21

Dylan Brooks

And notice how that was in 2008, before she fucked up all his foreign policy and diplomatic initiatives.

September 3, 2016 - 21:29

Sebastian Russell

No, a corporation is legal person based on two-three hundred years of Western jurisprudence. That concept existed before Citizens United but retarded media rhetoric about "muh corporations are people now?!" is all normies heard.

If you people really want to fight this shit, then you at least need to know the history and basic legal precedent.

September 4, 2016 - 10:24

John White

youtube.com/watch?v=3hGnxYuKlzs

lol

September 4, 2016 - 10:30

Jacob Howard

So it's about a guy who moved to New Hampshire so he could vote there, then he was too lazy to vote in the town where his domicile was, and so decided to commit voter fraud?

kekkest keks

September 4, 2016 - 11:43

Hudson Parker

t

September 4, 2016 - 11:45

Nicholas Flores

You mean the guy who has built his entire career on essentially fraud?

September 4, 2016 - 12:14

Aaron Cruz

Do you realize how stupid that sounds? It seems much easier to hack an account than a server. But maybe I'm just that computer illiterate. Didn't it come out that she wasn't using passwords in some instances? I remember that from a little while back.

September 4, 2016 - 18:46

Lucas Miller

Green Party presidential candidate seeks to corral antiwar sentiment
wsws.org/en/articles/2016/09/05/gree-s05.html

By Jerry White
5 September 2016

September 5, 2016 - 08:15

Jason Roberts

...

September 5, 2016 - 08:15

Josiah Wright

Saw this trash in my local paper this morning.

archive.is/E9wVE

Associated Press takes up a whole page blubbering about Gary Johnson spoiling Arizona, gives Jill Stein a single sentence of recognition, and tops it off with the same tired lie of Al Gore something losing Florida in 2000 because of Ralph Nader.

September 5, 2016 - 10:20

Kevin Harris

And even that one sentence itself is spun against her.

She's on 41 states now with several awaiting filing. That's over 80%–a little bit more than half I'd say.

September 5, 2016 - 10:23

Bentley Jones

youtube.com/watch?v=LQK35BCuXJI
Jill Stein interviewed by Jimmy "Class War" Dore

September 5, 2016 - 10:59

Jacob White

Just 80%? Wew, that's a long way from 100%.

September 5, 2016 - 11:30

Charles Bennett

Does Jill dress like that to deliberately make my dick hard?

September 5, 2016 - 11:41

Julian Howard

Stein censored speaking out again the TPP by a clever edit on PBS Newshour last week.

youtube.com/watch?v=7QYZVoZGhow

Disappointed you missed this one, Holla Forums. Not as disappointed in PBS though.

September 5, 2016 - 11:47

Mason Perez

...

September 5, 2016 - 13:03

Zachary Jones

nydailynews.com/news/politics/exclusive-donald-trump-made-millions-saudi-government-article-1.2777211
Trump made millions off of Saudi Arabia, including Bin Laden's brother

September 5, 2016 - 15:03

Jack Baker

This is going to end well.

twitter.com/HFA/status/772563031716982786

September 5, 2016 - 15:44

Noah Phillips

...

September 5, 2016 - 16:48

Joshua Walker

...

September 5, 2016 - 16:49

Carson Long

This whole election is like watching the embodiment of woke centrist twitter face off against the embodiment of alt-right twitter.

September 5, 2016 - 16:49

Adam Thomas

GG NO RE

September 5, 2016 - 17:11

Dylan Nguyen

Fucking hell.
GG was the stupidest shit I've ever been a part of, and the fact it's taken seriously outside of a niche group of people on the web has me slightly more disappointed in society than usual.

September 5, 2016 - 17:22

Easton Johnson

It wasn't THAT stupid. The problem was both Holla Forums trying to turn it into their super special Nazi masturbation fantasy, and people like you and me who wanted it to be Occupy 2.0.

Yeah no kidding.

September 5, 2016 - 17:45

John Ward

I just thought that the whole "consumer revolt" shit was stupid, when the problem went much much deeper.
"Ethics in video game journalism" is peripheral compared to how corrupt the journalism is as a whole.

September 5, 2016 - 17:49

Jonathan Bailey

What we were hoping for wasn't Occupy 2.0, but something that will ensure Occupy 2.0 won't be sabotaged. Judging from the contempt with which predictable "muh brocialism" slanders against S█████ and Corbyn have been greeted by society, I think it's safe to say GG served its purpose admirably.

That's a tenbux ghazi maymay, the actual charge was CORRUPTION in videogames. They were attempting to destroy an entire artistic medium, like what the CCA did to American comics in the 1950s.

September 5, 2016 - 18:21

Jose Cook

Well, looks like the Wicked Old Witch of the Christian Right is dead: archive.fo/iosLr

I know celebration is mostly due for liberal feminists who still want the ERA, but she was one of those wingnuts who deserved everyone's hate.

September 5, 2016 - 19:33

Noah White

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phyllis_Schlafly#Women.27s_issues
WEW

September 5, 2016 - 19:49

Brayden Rodriguez

is that the prime example of a women being cucked?

September 5, 2016 - 19:55

Cooper Howard

...

September 5, 2016 - 19:59

Josiah Gonzalez

Just imagine the Star Trek variant of mrs. Schlafly.

September 5, 2016 - 20:03

Brandon Lewis

youtube.com/watch?v=y8fQ5tzH12Y

THE BITCH IS DEAD

September 5, 2016 - 21:48

Aiden Young

What's wrong with her?

September 5, 2016 - 21:52

Jose Murphy

lol, there's actually a pretty funny scene from TOS where Kirk and McCoy are lamenting that the pretty, blonde ensign is going to leave star fleet when she settles down and finds a man.

September 6, 2016 - 02:04

Austin Morales

Her human suit is breaking down.

September 6, 2016 - 02:05

Samuel Harris

Ah ahahahah

September 6, 2016 - 02:07

Jackson Ross

At least until the TNG-era, where they put families with children onboard Starfleet ships. TNG is my favorite of the franchise, but even I have to admit that part was a little too silly.

September 6, 2016 - 02:30

Logan Miller

People can say whatever the fuck they want about OR, I think it's great. Like yeah all of them are incumbent but still.
The only places with more are Connecticut, Arizona, Minnesota and Massachusetts.

September 6, 2016 - 06:38

Logan Jones

Was it inevitable?

archive.is/cZmSJ

September 6, 2016 - 06:40

Jordan Hernandez

reddit.com/r/politics/comments/51f2dh/donald_trump_leads_hillary_clinton_by_2_points/

Trump leading Hillary, again.

September 6, 2016 - 19:44

Jason Morgan

theintercept.com/2016/09/06/the-unrelenting-pundit-led-effort-to-delegitimize-all-negative-reporting-about-hillary-clinton/
Based Greenwald strikes again

September 6, 2016 - 19:51

Oliver Barnes

Aside from the automated cuckbot at the top, the comments are surprisingly sane for leddit!

September 6, 2016 - 20:49

William Wilson

...

September 6, 2016 - 21:17

Carson Jenkins

So this guy, Charles Ortel, claims he's got shocking evidence about the Clinton Foundation that he's going to be releasing every day over the next month or so. This is the first release that came out last night, along with the attached document.

burn, baby, burn

charlesortel.com/concentrating-on-clinton-foundation-facts

Since then, questions have started to swirl around the various entities that comprise what I call the Clinton Charity Network: a group of entities supported by a variety of donors from inside the United States and around the world.

September 7, 2016 - 01:27

Aiden Richardson

I want to get excited for this but I've still got blueballs from Assange's big "nothing"

September 7, 2016 - 02:25

Asher Allen

I think he said he has more. This may actually be said more. Though it's really alarming how few people are paying attention- this may be a fake or something.

September 7, 2016 - 02:37

Anthony Ross

I guess we'll find out but I want to habeeb ;~;

September 7, 2016 - 02:38

Landon Butler

It's only silly because you're viewing it through your ideological lens.

Were they on the ship for several years? I don't know how you'd keep hundreds of people trapped on a ship the size of an office building for that long without winding up with a bunch of kids.

Did the captain have some sort of switch that turned people's genitalia off

September 7, 2016 - 03:23

Brandon Brooks

Meaningless

One is literal compensated prostitute whore for wall street giving them lip and blowjob service

Other is literal porky billionaire

Only revolution can overcome the capitalist mechanisms and I am getting sick of this board and its lack of dedication.

September 7, 2016 - 03:32

Carson Bennett

I stumbled across this. Check out this level of delusion, guys, lmao.

reddit.com/r/PoliticalDiscussion/comments/51lmee/do_you_feel_that_the_mainstream_media_is_treating/

It's hit & miss nowadays with CTR being there. They were suspiciously quiet on that thread, which is funny.

Check out this thread though
reddit.com/r/politics/comments/519nfi/charity_watchdog_charity_navigator_gives_clinton/
and prepare to be blown away with how retarded their arguments are. I was being called a "conspiracy theorist" for pointing out the corruption/scandal from her Foundation in the news recently. Pretty amazing, but I know they're full of shit & grasping at straws.

September 7, 2016 - 08:41

Cooper Gutierrez

They were trying to call Greenwald "largely a dishonest hack" in this second thread

It's funny because a lot of these CTR retards also have shit grammar & insult you with middle school level insults. I wonder where they find these people.

September 7, 2016 - 08:44

Caleb Fisher

DESIGNATED

September 7, 2016 - 09:00

Joshua Wilson

twitter.com/mtracey/status/771473874965913604

Goldman Sachs Bans Employees from Donating to Trump
fortune.com/2016/09/06/goldman-elite-trump-pence/

September 7, 2016 - 13:23

Andrew Watson

pretty much

September 7, 2016 - 13:27

Ian Parker

Wow, CTR right off the bat.

September 7, 2016 - 14:25

Colton Wilson

michaelsmithnews.com/2016/09/new-documents-that-reveal-bill-clintons-backdated-contracts-and-multimillion-frauds-in-the-name-of-h.html

September 7, 2016 - 15:16

Samuel Peterson

Clinton is fair game though.

September 7, 2016 - 15:29

Isaac Cox

He just posted this link on twitter

zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-07/clinton-foundation-charity-fraud-epic-proportions-analyst-charges-stunning-takedown

THE LINK /R/POLITICS DOESN'T WANT YOU TO SEE

September 7, 2016 - 15:42

Jack Thompson

...

September 7, 2016 - 15:44

Dylan Fisher

anti autism bump

September 7, 2016 - 16:16

Adam Reed

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3777942/Wikileaks-boss-says-Hillary-Clinton-documents-way-including-teasers-soon-week.html

Look at all this salt over it :^)
reddit.com/r/Enough_Sanders_Spam/comments/51lqjt/my_next_leak_will_totally_put_clinton_in_jail_and/

September 7, 2016 - 17:16

Jose Barnes

Where were you when Jill won over the lifestylists? mobile.twitter.com/KXMB/status/773210869773676544

September 7, 2016 - 18:46

Sebastian Rivera

purge them all Oba San Stein

September 7, 2016 - 18:48

Tyler Cox

They brought charges against her today, too

too lazy to put up a link but search for it on any given news aggregator if you're curious

September 7, 2016 - 18:57

Benjamin Bell

Did something happen with their old sub? Or is there just so much salt they need two subreddits to contain it all?

September 7, 2016 - 19:00

Ryder Peterson

dude, is she fucking dying?

September 7, 2016 - 19:17

Juan Wood

She's probably looking for a new body to inhabit right now

September 7, 2016 - 19:20

Jordan Scott

Was once accused of rape under obvious political motivations- the women involved have never come forward to press the issue and demand his arrest, and the warrant itself was withdrawn but accusation=reality guyyyyyyyyyyyyys
Uhhhh published some personal information that the Saudis could use that the Saudis already had
Went on a rant that could be interpreted as anti-ZOG quackery if you completely remove it from context
Stole fizzy lifting drinks

September 7, 2016 - 19:29

Anthony Barnes

kys

September 7, 2016 - 19:33

Tyler Morris

Do you think it's best to vote for a third-party candidate such as Jill Stein or Gary Johnson?
Are you throwing away your vote by doing this?

Also do you think voting Trump in would create chaos in favor of leftism?

September 7, 2016 - 19:34

Kevin Nguyen

No, this meme needs to die.

September 7, 2016 - 19:37

Ian Anderson

I WANT to throw my vote in the trash, that's how much it is worth in this bourgeois dictatorship. I won't even vote.

September 7, 2016 - 19:39

Aiden Richardson

Yea my knowledge of political is not the greatest

I understand the frustration

September 7, 2016 - 19:42

Ryder Cruz

politics*

September 7, 2016 - 19:42

Eli Cruz

I remember reading a comment saying the old one had been "hacked" or something(& they call us tinfoil hatters). But whoever ran it prolly shut it down once B████ was out.

Obviously a lot of fuckers were too salty to let it go & Sander supporters are still calling them/Hillary on their bullshit, so they opened a new one. At least the_donald has bants, these CTR people are painfully unfunny. "Hurr, NAMBLA, guys!" lol

September 7, 2016 - 19:44

Kayden Butler

Imo, best to vote for a third party candidate. I think it;s 5% nationally they need to get in order to get Federal funding, put on all state ballots & participate in future Presidential debates(I know atm they say they have to get 15% poll-wise to participate; I don't know if the 5% national vote would override this for the future or not).

Definitely not throwing it away, it will be accomplishing more than voting for Hillary ot Trump.

The only thing I can understand, but not really condone, is if someone "hate-votes" for Trump against Hillary. I'm sure a lot of people will be hate voting, as it happens every election. But Trump or Hillary in office = losing. We've already lost in this regard, so that's why I say vote for a third party candidate. If they're not on your ballot & you can write-in, write in whomever you feel is best.

Let's just hope they count our votes. At this point I say just move out of America. I'm not kidding. I already did, for different reasons, but I'm glad I have & haven't been happier.

September 7, 2016 - 19:51

Jack Sanders

Yep, that's the case. The founder wasn't COMPLETELY unreasonable and got rid of it once it served no purpose, just like S4P. But the salt was too real and 3,000 of the I think 12,000 needed a place to continue crying.

September 7, 2016 - 19:53

Robert Cook

Also I don't know what bants you're referring to, I've never seen anything interesting out of The Donald.

September 7, 2016 - 19:54

Ayden Reyes

if you have a preferred winner, yes obviously, First Past The Post. Still, things will be shit no matter which one of the two wins and promoting the alternative is the only reasonable position if you have any hope for the future.
A Hillary win would be the worst, the people who voted her as B████'s successor would quickly be pushed toward Idpol, since it'll be the only "good" legacy she'll leave, Trump will come right back in 2020 with more insane politics and Libertarians will blame all economic illness on "leftism".
Trump on the other hand would greatly harm the US's position internationally while also disappointing his messianic base, his tax cuts will be enough to shut libertarians down and a Demo win would be guaranteed, for all that's worth.

why is it wrong?

September 7, 2016 - 19:54

Michael Mitchell

Thanks for the insight mangs

September 7, 2016 - 19:55

Charles Flores

Why is the world would it encourage people to move to the left? Unless you want people to just become more liberal.

I mean I just don't see the logic behind it. If anything it will only strengthen this new breed of right-populism. His presidency will most likely be a repeat of Dubya: the ruling class will both decry him while conspiring with him.

September 7, 2016 - 19:59

Luis Carter

Oh come on. Visit any thread right now & I guarantee you'll laugh. Granted, it's mostly retarded, it's still funny.

September 7, 2016 - 20:05

Dominic Hernandez

Well, I went here-
reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/471vn1/when_your_mommy_says/
And it was pretty funny, yeah.

What I had seen from them before was shitty "my wife's son" jokes, etc.

September 7, 2016 - 20:07

Matthew Carter

No! Those people have no policy, they have no plans, their god-Emperor will get in, cut taxes, build 1/3 of wall, and get out.
Only reality can kill romanticized politics, thinking you can shame them off the stage is dangerous.
Sanders-Liberal? No, Trump won't turn people into commies, but he'll show them that the Right-wing's rhetoric is nonsense and that the middle-class' hardships won't be fixed with superstructural changes.
yes, while Hillary will conspire with and be praised by them. This isn't about policy, policy will suck no matter what, public opinion is what matters.

September 7, 2016 - 20:11

Levi Allen

Lmao, yeah, it's mostly retarded, but still good for a laugh sometimes.

September 7, 2016 - 20:15

Carson Jenkins

Well articulated post, my friend.

September 7, 2016 - 20:17

Carson Parker

Down the road, not across the street, hipster scum.

Like says, the only reason to vote 3rd-party is to break the 5% funding line, or the 15% debate participation one. Personally, I think Stein already polls strong enough to secure 5%, but too little to break 15% (and the debates aren't as important anyway IMHO). Further, unless there's victories on the downballot by organizations like the Greens and [REDACTED]'s, I don't see any point in sinking more resources into the white elephant that is the presidential race.

I think voting for Trump has three excellent leftist justifications: First, it would mean defeating Shillary, causing SJWs to sperg out disgracefully, and utterly vindicating calls by brocialists that her brand of mainstream center-leftism is dying and unelectable; Second, any rightist policy Trump attempts will face ferocious opposition from both sides of the partisan "divide", whereas Clinton will be able to pass identical policies shielded by establishment backing and a thick slimy glaze of SJW shilling that will grow deeper and more powerful than ever on the "left" under her watch; Third, there is an uncertain but plausible possibility Trump will keep some of his promises to do desirable things (stop neocon wars, stop neolib offshoring/migration, help us purge SJWs from the left), and even if he doesn't, his failure to keep these promises would hopefully infuriate his supporters enough to hurt the alt-right and energize us.

September 7, 2016 - 20:26

Liam Moore

Oh boy
There's only one and it involves Puerto Rico.
You're delusional if you think Trump in office wouldn't just fast-track Tea Party bills.

September 7, 2016 - 20:29

Jason Kelly

And you imagine Clinton's true platform will be one bit better? Think in practical terms, who has a better chance of successfully doing more damage in the real-world political arena?

September 7, 2016 - 20:31

Benjamin Rivera

While 5% for federal matching funds is a realistic and admirable goal, I have to disagree that it should simply stop there. Every extra percent at the end of the election is a greater showing of solidarity. The real point I think is showing people that they don't need to be afraid to step outside the Democrats' monopoly on so-called progressive politics anymore. Every extra little bit is more persuasive.

September 7, 2016 - 22:20

Ian Bell

Much more impressive would be whistlestop campaign bolstering downballot candidates across the country, and capturing seats from civic councils and mayorships, through state councils, up to house members, and maybe even some senators or governors.

I remember 2000, I remember the promises of "party building", and I remember not just the abject failure, but the lack of any credible effort. Whether 3rd-party like the Greens, or entryism inside the Democrats, I don't care about feelgood chickenwaving at the presidency, I want realistic efforts to deliver practical results.

September 7, 2016 - 22:39

Colton Moore

Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, and Trump. Clinton can be criticized from the left and the right whereas Trump will only be criticized by the now completely powerless left (yes I know the Democrats aren't really left bear with me). We can hold Clinton accountable to her flip flops, but Trump is just Trump as usual if he even actually DOES anything that's not Pence's or Congress's doing. Then there's the Supreme Court and what I mentioned about the Tea Party.

That being said I don't actually care who wins because Trump will be great for Puerto Rico.

September 8, 2016 - 06:38

Michael Edwards

The old sub turned out to be run by pro-clinton shills

September 8, 2016 - 07:37

Sebastian Nguyen

wsws.org/en/articles/2016/09/08/elec-s08.html

8 September 2016

September 8, 2016 - 07:40

Henry Bailey

Patrick Martin

September 8, 2016 - 07:40

Jeremiah Watson

Really? Is that what fucking happened??

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I actually fucking called it when I noticed the sub was something ridiculous like 4 years old and the head mod blocked me for asking why.

You know what that means? Clinton's campaign was in preliminary stages 6 years ago. Way before she gave those speeches.

Which means her speeches were almost inevitably part of her campaign. Which means they were illegal.

September 8, 2016 - 08:17

Oliver Morgan

If I remember right, yeah. Word on the street was that the S4P mods were part of the pro-clinton cabal and worked behind and before the scenes stifling dissent and disrupting information and other pro-bernie efforts. I can't really confirm because I wasn't part of the sub at all.

September 8, 2016 - 09:04

Jaxson James

Oh, I thought you were talking about ESS.

That sounds like baseless CT to me. One of the head mods was an employee of Revolution Messaging, a PR firm B████'s campaign paid.

September 8, 2016 - 09:37

Carson Jackson

...

September 8, 2016 - 10:26

Dylan Roberts

And he'll be heralded as the greatest president since Reagan. I mean really, do you think these people care about getting fucked over by Trump? They're not voting for him for any productive reasons, they're voting for him because he's a loud jackass who pisses off the people they hate.
I don't want to "shame them off the stage" but the fact is if Trump wins, I doubt the Republican politicos who have been shit-talking him are still going to be singing the same tune. They'll all come sulking back. And again, they really don't give a shit about the wall, about Muslims, about any of that shit. They've hitched their wagon to Trump because he pisses people off and they want to piss those same people off too.

September 8, 2016 - 12:41

Adrian Nelson

youtube.com/watch?v=ZpcWJGN3aOI

"PBS and Facebook Censor Jill Stein's Criticism of Hillary Clinton"

September 8, 2016 - 17:16

Jeremiah Diaz

Aiden King did some shady shit on S4P. I really question him. He's the one who shut down the subreddit temporarily during the convention for bullshit reasons(getting "threats on S█████" or something retarded, he says).

He then "stepped down" from S4P because people were pissed(there was a thread about it at the time, explaining what he did) & became a top mod on Political_Revolution. Someone posted here not too long ago a thread on r/conspiracy I believe, showing how they'd been banned from Political_revolution for criticizing Hillary Clinton & pushing for Jill Stein. I can probably find it if you're interested.

To me, it didn't make any sense to shut down S4P, just because we lost all those subscribers. They could've kept the url but renamed it or something; found a better way to handle that. S4P had like 300,000 subscribers, and now P_R only has a couple ten thousand. I haven't kept up with P_R either. It seemed like a very low effort subreddit with barely any participators. Because of the banning & Aiden King being a top mod, people say it's false opposition, now.

It was well known that S4P was censoring people & they allowed it to go to shit quickly towards the end, when we needed cohesion more than ever. The trolls there got out of control & the fucking mods did nothing. So it seemed obvious what happened. Plus with the DNC leaks, we found out(as we already suspected) that Hillary had many moles in S█████' campaign.

r/politics is also shit & CTR territory. I've been banned twice within 3 months for "incivility/shill accusation". You can't even call someone a troll; it's retarded. At least many people speak out against it, though. Everyone noticed the extreme shift & rampant trolling.

September 8, 2016 - 17:25

Isaac Morgan

I found another thread & subreddit talking about it/Aidan King. Funny that CTR people that I've tagged already(from ESS, delusional pro-Hillary people) are all throughout this thread trying to play it down as well.

reddit.com/r/Kossacks_for_Sanders/comments/4un4in/rsandersforpresident_closed_in_the_middle_of_the/

September 8, 2016 - 17:34

Christian Ortiz

The "Presidential Forum" in case anyone else missed it.

youtube.com/watch?v=THPVoGTEGVk

Such a sham. I've seen nonstop reporting on how "Matt Lauer butchered it", so I'm guessing that just means he wasn't nice enough to Hillary or something.

September 8, 2016 - 17:43

Austin Mitchell

They open with "9/11!"

Hahahaha kill me now

September 8, 2016 - 17:44

Charles Hill

Where's Jill Stein?

September 8, 2016 - 18:14

Tyler Wright

Busy spray-painting.

pbs.org/newshour/rundown/green-party-candidate-jill-stein-faces-charges-graffiti-protest/

September 8, 2016 - 18:17

Jack Williams

This is America. What did you think this was, a Democracy?

They won't ever let her on the stage; too much to censor.

September 8, 2016 - 18:21

Christian Clark

I don't know. It sounds like someone just went on a banning spree regarding constant anti-Clinton circlejerking. Or maybe his post was just a bit too shilly. I've seen plenty of anti-Clinton pro-Stein posts that stayed up.

You can't actually move your sub like that, it's going to be called S4P no matter what and in 2018 that would look stupid.

I wasn't aware of any evidence of moles, but I'd be interested.

September 8, 2016 - 18:44

David Perez

CTR try harder.

What's wrong even if there was a circlejerk against Clinton on the S█████ subreddit? It was a campaign against her.

Your opinion.

Google it. It was specified in one of the emails on within the DNC leak.

September 8, 2016 - 19:56

Hudson Cook

Talking about Political_Revolution. Nice try though.
Then it's possible that some of the moles ran the subreddit, but I wouldn't call "friends of a friend who are in the B████ campaign" moles just yet.

September 8, 2016 - 20:09

Eli Foster

Same with P_R, Clinton & Trump are the anti-Progressives. So any hate towards them should be perfectly fine.

September 8, 2016 - 20:24

Christian Moore

And I don't even know what you mean by this. It was the DNC/Hillary campaign that had moles in S█████' by their own admission. Infiltrating a subreddit is child's play after that.

September 8, 2016 - 20:26

Levi Young

Do you think God stays in heaven because he, too, lives in fear of what he's created?

September 8, 2016 - 21:53

Cooper Hill

God is a spook.

September 8, 2016 - 22:01

Bentley Rodriguez

A Deeper Torah Perspective: Trump, Obama, Hillary and the Elections

youtube.com/watch?v=_LbeTS_cZ7E

Holla Forumsacks will defend this

September 8, 2016 - 22:57

Eli Davis

She's too based to be president,
not based enough to lead a revolution.
Life must be a struggle.

September 8, 2016 - 23:29

Sebastian Reyes

thefreethoughtproject.com/native-americans-block-oil-pipeline/#PqJAPkZc3cWIj2mv.01

"2,500 Native Americans Successfully Block Oil Pipeline Construction — State of Emergency Declared"

What are you faggots reading? Please share it. I've been posting a lot & would love some variety or conversation, too.

Jill was there, too & faces charges, as another commenter posted.
nytimes.com/2016/09/08/us/politics/jill-stein-green-party-candidate-is-charged-over-role-in-protest.html

Jill is like fine wine. She's getting better with age.

September 9, 2016 - 00:08

Tyler Harris

i wonder how those elections can even be legal after all the flaws and problems found in the digital voting systems.

www.inquisitr.com/3022058/election-board-scandal-21-bernie-votes-were-erased-and-49-hillary-votes-added-to-audit-tally-group-declares-video/
theguardian.com/us-news/2015/apr/15/virginia-hacking-voting-machines-security
nydailynews.com/new-york/ny-primary-voters-outraged-broken-machines-late-polls-article-1.2606810
wired.com/2016/08/americas-voting-machines-arent-ready-election/

September 9, 2016 - 04:45

Andrew Watson

No, the e-mail says "X told me she has some friends in the B████ campaign". That doesn't directly mean they're part of the DNClluminati.

September 9, 2016 - 06:50

Luke Ortiz

Who gives a single fuck about 9/11 any more

September 9, 2016 - 06:56

James Jackson

I'm so fucking glad it's going to be on a Sunday far away from my goddamn workplace.

September 9, 2016 - 07:06

Brandon Williams

What if she's faking it to gain pity votes?

September 9, 2016 - 07:56

Anthony Adams

Hello visitor from an alternate dimension, enjoying your stay up to now?

September 9, 2016 - 08:08

Justin Sanders

elnuevodia.com/noticias/politica/nota/fortunoopinaquelajuntaesreflejodequepuertoricofallo-2208953/

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE YOU RUINED OUR ECONOMY AND DOUBLED THE DEBT IN 4 YEARS YOU FUCKING FAGGOT IT'S NOT "OUR FAULT" IT'S YOURS YOU SLY PIECE OF ASS SHIT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

September 9, 2016 - 10:26

Wyatt Ortiz

This is the bitch who borrowed 17 billion from wall street and spent half of it on contracts for his buddies and family.

September 9, 2016 - 10:30

Gavin Butler

Is he still on the island?

September 9, 2016 - 10:33

Samuel Hughes

If crying didn't work against Obama, I doubt feigning serious health issues is going to help her campaign.

September 9, 2016 - 10:49

Samuel Rivera

Yes.
This faggot campaigned for 47% Romney even after he came out with that, BTW.

September 9, 2016 - 11:56

Luke Scott

why haven't you all dragged him out of his mansion and hanged him yet?

September 9, 2016 - 14:40

Samuel Cox

Sure, retard.

September 9, 2016 - 16:51

Brody Young

Why haven't we all done that, user. WHY HAVEN'T WE ALL.

September 9, 2016 - 17:34

John Butler

Epic post fagola. You're up there with Cheposter so far, which is a feat of its own.

Oh believe me, we're not far from it. I'm not even edgy-posting or wishful-thinking-posting here. If you don't believe me, run the comment section through Google Translate- one guy literally called him a "cabron", which means anything from "bastard" to "shitass" to "cuck" (in the literal sense). Literally none of the comments are positive. Even the PNP party's loyal (cucked) voter base is tired of the PNP's bullshit (though they think it's just a certain faction), electing a neoliberal instead of the cuckservative Fortuño and company were rooting for in an upset. But hey, worst comes to worst I'd much rather have an Americucked smol gubmint low taxez hawk than a shameless reverse Robin Hood who has the fucking audacity to blame his bullshit on us REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Because violence is so unpopular (and for good reason) we've chosen instead to hang that faction socially and politically, since it achieves the same ends and is within our means.
By the way, I think I already mentioned this but all 6 candidates agree that Puerto Rico is a colony and oppose the Fiscal Control Board, even the PNP's offering. Three of them are keeping various degrees of "neutral" (ie. hiding sovereigntist power level to get moderates on board), two are outright sovereigntist and then Rossello is statehoodist.
Oh yeah! also because the son of a bitch moved to Washington DC when he lost in 2012 because he knew pitchforks awaited him. I hate nobody on earth more than I hate this person, and Bush, DWS, and Clinton are still alive, so you know that's a feat. The audacity of this actual animate piece of shit molded to somewhat resemble a human.

September 9, 2016 - 21:25

Jeremiah Richardson

Here's my favorite comment on that page, with six upvotes (which on an inactive moderate local news site is basically a standing extended ovation)
As you can see, the fact people would agree with something this radical in an area where B████'s campaign was almost irrelevant due to not being able to vote (though we did lend him our sympathies) is a good sign and I'll tell you guys as soon as I have the socialist protest group running since it's an easier trip with less of a language barrier than Rojava

September 9, 2016 - 21:26

Jaxson Flores

I only give you a pass because you're so young, Lares. We were all retarded when we were teenagers, so I forgive you. :^)

September 9, 2016 - 21:37

Alexander Watson

Spooky! #NotMyComrade

September 9, 2016 - 21:42

Adam Green

Like, I said, I forgive you.

And ageism? Mein gott. That's not even a word, user.

September 9, 2016 - 21:54

Tyler Wright

Lares, I remember you answering this question from me when you initially popped up during the thick of [REDACTED]'s campaign as "we get tax breaks and limited autonomy in return for less legal protection", but now that PR has been completely assraped, all that seems to have gone out the window, so again I feel I must ask:

Why hasn't PR either gone for statehood or full independence yet? One would turn you into a real member of the most powerful nation on earth, with all the rights and muh privileges that entails, instead of a 3rd-world tax-dodge back door into the US, hopefully leading to the same (relative) prosperity as my present home of Hawaii enjoys. The other would completely free you from all pressures or obligations from the USA, as by far the strongest economy in your region. Politically speaking, if a 2/3rds majority voted for either option, there is an 0.000% chance of the USA plausibly disrespecting it.

What rational justification is there for PR failing to shit or get off the fucking pot for over a century?

September 9, 2016 - 21:54

Justin Johnson

Nitpicking here, but I've been here since this board's foundation, just not on trip. Yes, really, since I was 14.
People are scared of both. Let me break it down.
Considering the above, as well as strategic voting, many Puerto Ricans choose to remain the same, just as the incumbent candidate is more likely to win even if he's shitty, because the ELA is the hell we know and those two are the hell we don't know. Thankfully, a COFA-type proposition is gaining traction, and B████ ██████, who may well become Senate Minority Leader or Whip or something (and even without these has quite some sway), even said he wouldn't even put the illegal ELA on the next referendum, which would further the push away from the status quo.
Basically at this point, to answer your actual question, it's not going to happen as long as Puerto Ricans don't consider it illegal and have to strategically vote, and will happen when Puerto Ricans consider it illegal, where COFA would indubitably win.
The reasons why we'd pick the COFA over full independence are sometimes pretty spooky tbh- mostly to feel safer and still be a part of the US military, not having to worry about creating our own. Plus these types of agreements usually involve exchanges of money for health benefits or other things, which the US is usually behind on, but would help people FEEL stable nonetheless. But these are pretty tangible spooks in that a society that feels stable 9 times out of 10 usually is stable, and the inverse. Some Puerto Ricans also have attachments to the US- we consume so much American culture and products, and more directly than probably even Canada, that it would be strange to alienate ourselves entirely from America.
Well actually our ability to hold a status referendum is dictated entirely by Congress, the first of which was held in 1967. So I'd really say it's been more like 50. Additionally, there have only been two referendums to have more options than "YOYO" independence, statehood, and status quo, which were held in 1998 and 2012, and both were buggered to all shit and everyone strategically voted. It's worth noting that all four referendums were proposed and designed by the statehoodist party to create a false majority for statehood through various shenanigans.
Really, I know this sounds like a meme or something, but all we need is one more referendum with either IRV or no ELA option and free association would win easy. The PPD even has a pretty solid idea on how the breakup would go.
My opinion of the PPD has developed solidly over the years even if I think a lot of their guys are fucking stupid. They used to be the "this is fine" party not ten years ago and now they're actively calling Puerto Rico a colony.

September 9, 2016 - 22:51

Cameron Green

Also, in other news, a poll done shortly before the debate had all opposition candidates at a combined 11%, B████r (the compromise candidate) at 36%, Rossello (the devil) at 44% and the rest undecided. 11% is nod bad, especially before the debate where they all crushed shit while Rossello made a complete ass of himself and B████r spent the entire debate handling being on the defensive quite well I hate to admit.

September 9, 2016 - 22:51

Hunter Harris

God damn it

youtu.be/-adNZoiREsM

September 9, 2016 - 23:19

Sebastian Roberts

This sounds like flimflammery of the rankest sort. America has NO official language; many highly Hispanic states like California and Texas already have practically everything available bilingual already as a practical concession; and states with large aboriginal populations like Alaska, Hawaii, and Arizona already declare those peoples' languages as official state languages. The only real breakthrough would be internal government affairs (legislative sessions, etc) conducted in Spanish.

We could use the two extra senators, frankly.

Isn't Puerto Rico a den of Catholic Christcuckery like most of the Hispanic world?

From what little I know of Puerto Rican government, you guys don't seem to have the family machine politics I see in your neighbors (or some rinkydink US states like Hawaii & Florida), so you'd probably come out ahead in the region. To be sure, though, having a shiny modern constitution along the line of Finland or Israel where 3rd-parties actually make sense (party list legislature, parliamentary government, IRV for the few actual single-winner elections) before independence would be great, but no actual US state has done it in spite of the fact the federal constitution would permit them to if they wanted, so good luck on that.

That's extremely spooky, considering both the fact that Puerto Rico already has the same military capabilities as any US state its size (national/state guards, state defense force, its share of the federal armed forces paid by PR's taxes and the lives of its volunteers), and that if anyone were crazy enough to invade Puerto Rico even if it didn't have a SOFA with us, the US military would be all over them like white on rice.

Oop, good point.

September 10, 2016 - 00:47

Nathaniel Williams

cbsnews.com/news/why-prisoners-nationwide-are-striking/

September 10, 2016 - 05:06

Bentley Hernandez

My god! That comment section.

September 10, 2016 - 05:25

Kevin Parker

I have noscript on and can't see any of it

Is it more of the "if they didn't want to be slaves they shouldn't have committed crimes" shit?

September 10, 2016 - 08:23

Parker Scott

Read this recently.
Why do I feel like they're bullshitting when they say it's the Russians?

archive.is/3Svwv

September 10, 2016 - 08:32

Adam Harris

Yep pretty much that and some If they want to strike lets see how they feel after a couple of days without food comments

September 10, 2016 - 08:42

Ethan Sanchez

They know that, they want to make English the official and only official national language. They're quacks.
That is true. What I meant though is that the primaries would become the effective generals and incumbents would be even harder to dethrone. Anyone who wanted a chance at any position would have to register with the Democrats and win their primary, which would really suck for people who have a bone to pick with the Democrats. That's another problem with statehood, actually- Republicans would not want another state that they're completely locked out of.
We're Christcucks, yes, but like the Catholic Church itself has been moving towards we don't enable religion and politics mixing. Take Ireland for example which was the first country to democratically legalize gay marriage.
That's because they were states. All states past the original 13 went from minimal government to state and just adopted what was working for their new countrymates- there were none that had a pre-established way of doing things that was exactly the same as what they'd be moving to and had decided they were sick of it. Furthermore, those states were going in and trying to conform to very, very old national standards, and we'd be going out. Also we recently did have a referendum on decreasing the size of the legislature (not nearly enough) and people voted it down 45-55 because they didn't understand it- to them it seemed like pointless or an attempt to undermine democracy, when if anything it was an attempt to make laws and such easier to pass.
You're actually entirely right. It's just something people don't like to worry about. What I said about the placebo effect regarding stability is more important than the actual concern.

Super PACs can only donate to PACs, which most down-ballot candidates don't have, and PACs can only donate $5,000. They looked at their options and decided 501c4 was the most powerful for their needs. Even though they can't directly donate, they can organize, agitate, and use ActBlue for direct deposit donations where the money never touches their hands.

September 10, 2016 - 14:00

Brayden Ramirez

There's a nice interview with a guy on the Commission on Presidential Debates on Ralph's radio show today. Very relevant.

ralphnaderradiohour.com/presidential-debatesmathbabe/

September 10, 2016 - 14:44

Jaxson Howard

It look like he needs help, and being control by elizabeth warren as a puppet.

September 10, 2016 - 15:07

Cameron Collins

He's still slick even after the primaries

September 11, 2016 - 07:38

Michael Jones

I hope he has the grace to keep his head down and let independent politics finally find its voice if she were to die.

September 11, 2016 - 07:54

Sebastian Powell

I have no idea why the "left" hates the idea of the US having a national language. Literally every other country on the planet has one. All of the much worshiped left leaning nordic countries have official languages. Fuck even India has English as an official language. It just feels like a pointless wedge-driving fight. The vast majority of americans speak english, all of our politicians speak it, and all of our laws and rights are written in it. I don't understand how its too far a stretch to say you NEED to know english to be considered an american. Its not even an argument for culture, it's just an argument from practicality.

September 11, 2016 - 08:02

Hunter Bennett

About time. At least with [Redacted] he can energize the base and other people against Trump.

September 11, 2016 - 08:05

Jaxson Murphy

what's practical about erecting a language barrier to essential government services

September 11, 2016 - 08:06

Jason Gonzalez

Probably because it doesn't often come up in practical terms. Just another example of "If It Ain't Broke, Don't Fix It"-mentality, which usually makes sense for a country as large as the US, even if it sometimes breeds silliness like our aversion to metric measurements, or our mammoth heaps of court precedents.

September 11, 2016 - 08:28

Ayden Roberts

>MSM is all "Now that those dangerous and divisive figures are out of the way, we can have a mature election!"
This is my nightmare scenario

September 11, 2016 - 08:36

Aiden Cooper

muh dick

September 11, 2016 - 08:43

Hunter Garcia

SHE REALLY IS DYING COMRADES

mobile.twitter.com/NorthCrane/status/774994591208570881

September 11, 2016 - 08:53

Carter Gomez

1. There is no language barrier. It costs nothing to learn a language living in a country where over 90% of the populous speaks that language fluently. In fact, the only reason not to learn it is because of cultural reasons. If kids in China can learn English in a country where almost no one speaks it fluently I'm sure an immigrant from south america can learn to speak English or for a middle eastern immigrant to learn German. Humans are born being language learning machines, there are people in Africa who can barely read who speak multiple languages. There really isn't an excuse to move to a country with the intent on living there and not learning the dominant language.

Also in that sense why on earth don't some countries just give up their own languages? Less than a million people speak Icelandic, are they not providing an artificial language barrier by maintaining Icelandic as their official language? No one seems to be too eager to criticize anyone but the US for linguistic issues.

2. I would also argue that having a consistent language in a world full of languages is important.

2A. Every language is different and comes with different subtleties and semantic quirks. Hell we have the highest court in the land (SCOTUS) in place to interpret the meaning and context of a constitution written in the plain form of a language they all speak fluently. Can you imagine if the US had an official, legal constitution in Spanish or French or any other language? Not only would the justices have to be fluent in every language the law was written in, but they'd have to account for differences in grammar and semantics. Even a fairly closely related language like Spanish has radically a different verbal system with different shades of meaning with regards to time. Interpreting laws in multiple languages, with all languages being equally valid, is an impossible task.

2B. Not everyone can learn every language, I don't expect a police officer to be able to read Miranda rights in every language, or as in 2A whether an officers translation of those rights fully conveys what they mean in English.

Universal language for government is actually quiet a leftist position. It actually eliminates language barriers if everyone is on the same page. It's why Latin was used for so long and why Esperanto was invented. But those are not realistically used anymore. In the US the absolute dominant language is English, and it's already the legally established one. Having an official language does not mean a citizen can't speak another language, but simply that all official business is done in a singular language so everyone is on the same page. I would be fine with tax dollars going to teaching non-speaking citizens of my country the language that the vast majority of the country speaks, and the current world lingua franca. It's not an attempt to erect a barrier, it's the exact fucking opposite. I'd love to speak to my fellow prole countrymen, but if we're all raging a linguistic culture war none of that can happen.

Agreed, I usually argue with a "what if this could be perfectly implemented" scenario. I realize I just wrote a fucking novel on the subject but it pisses me off so many "leftists" automatically write me off as some sort of trumpist.

September 11, 2016 - 10:05

Dominic Hall

...

September 11, 2016 - 10:21

Camden Watson

I really hope she pulls through. I don't want S█████ to come in and "save" an irredeemable party for another 8 years. It needs to burn to the fucking ground already and Hillary is the one to do it.

September 11, 2016 - 10:39

Alexander Peterson

PRAISE

September 11, 2016 - 10:45

Carson Brooks

best case scenario

September 11, 2016 - 10:47

Kayden Hughes

MEME MAGIC

September 11, 2016 - 10:57

Nolan Cooper

So is Tim Kaine the final boss for the Democratic party or will they actually try to win and get someone healthier up there?

Possibly Comrade Sanderista?

LET THIS HAPPEN

September 11, 2016 - 12:01

Jeremiah Carter

Here, have the full image, comrade.

September 11, 2016 - 12:19

Adrian Wright

A victory for the Democrats is fellating the ruling class, regardless of whether they win or lose the vote count.

September 11, 2016 - 12:20

James Hughes

I don't think you have anything to worry about. The Democrats are going to collapse after this election regardless of what happens.

September 11, 2016 - 13:18

Thomas Walker

This is the best scenario possible.

September 11, 2016 - 14:52

Xavier Williams

Clinton has Pnuemonia

September 11, 2016 - 15:36

Evan Edwards

I'm guessing this "doctor" character isn't having their name released because a statement like that makes me think they should have their license revoked.

September 11, 2016 - 15:39

Cooper Baker

Daily Beast headline: Was Clinton's illness caused by too much stress from B████bros?

September 11, 2016 - 15:47

Kevin Morris

DNC to have emergency meeting, considering replacing her.

September 11, 2016 - 15:58

Josiah Parker

nytimes.com/2016/09/12/us/politics/hillary-clinton-campaign-pneumonia.html?_r=0

Holy shit, I thought Holla Forums was fucking with us, but it really happened.

What weird news to wake up to. I'd been wishing it but now I feel bad for her. Damn my conscience.. Pneumonia is really serious for older people. She has the resources of the best doctors, so who knows what can happen.

Lmao

Looks like rigging elections & doing all this dirty shit took a toll on her. She overexerted herself.

September 11, 2016 - 16:00

Tyler Nelson

She still can't be truthful, ffs. Check out the video of her stumbling into the van in this nytimes article. It's downright painful to watch.

September 11, 2016 - 16:07

Brandon Stewart

Wow up to a 30% chance of death.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CURB-65

How is the DNC going to spin this if she actually does die?

Will she become a martyr?

When can Mr. S come in to save the world?

September 11, 2016 - 16:08

Hunter Parker

What makes you think the DNC wouldn't stifle it like they've tried this entire time? B████'s the best option in this case.

September 11, 2016 - 16:09

Nolan Bailey

This is the weirdest election I've ever seen.

September 11, 2016 - 16:11

Jonathan Stewart

If you think it's weird now, just imagine the post-election.

This ride is only just starting.

September 11, 2016 - 16:52

Tyler Ramirez

CNN ran a two-hour dick-sucking puff piece on Donald Trump last night

September 11, 2016 - 19:20

Jaxson Robinson

The DNC's attempts to stifle it is exactly what people need to see.

September 11, 2016 - 19:34

Isaac James

I agree. It's actually a win-win for progressives in that way. If the DNC appoints B████, win. If they don't, win. The people who defend a political party who fucks up this badly & is in it for corporate gain rather than the public's, are getting rarer & rarer. That's a good thing coming out of all of this.

September 12, 2016 - 05:40

Bentley Turner

It's walking pneumonia, not viral pneumonia. I think that's less severe.

September 12, 2016 - 06:52

John Gonzalez

She is showing all the symptoms of opharyngeal cancer.

September 12, 2016 - 06:56

Mason Jenkins

Disgusting.

September 12, 2016 - 09:47

Evan Martinez

...

September 12, 2016 - 10:04

Thomas Jenkins

Theres apps which basically feed false information, random Googles and whatnot

September 12, 2016 - 11:34

Christian Johnson

No it didnt fucking turn out better. You fucked up Serbia and let Croatia get away with massacres and ethnic cleansing. The Serbian government of Milsoevic was trying to keep the Bosnian Serbs from going batshit insane massacres. Fuck, Serbia and Milsoevic were found innocent and not guilty of "Genocide".

September 12, 2016 - 12:02

Aiden Moore

Please let Hillary die. Please. The world needs it.

September 12, 2016 - 12:19

Logan Price

what did he mean by this?

September 12, 2016 - 12:25

Zachary Ramirez

Clinton better not withdraw then

We need her to live long enough to become the villain

September 12, 2016 - 12:29

Sebastian Nguyen

Starfleet is primarily an exploration and civilian esque organization, so its not like they're going to war..

September 12, 2016 - 12:35

Joshua Ortiz

There need to be a lot more to overwhelm the stream of raw intel pouring out normalfags.

Tito was too paranoid about possible betrayal to cultivate any stable powerbase other than himself, so Yugoslavia was fucked either way, and even if Milosevic's regime wasn't directly pulling the strings, it stood back and fanned the flames. If we hadn't stepped in, the whole place would've ended up in Congo-scale disaster.

True in concept, but the frequency with which ships of the line skirt annihilation onscreen strains belief at the claim of caring about civilian lives more.

September 12, 2016 - 13:00

Anthony Cruz

space is a dangerous place

it's not like they'd be safer on a planet or anything. you never know when some quantum filament is going to collide with the planet, or the borg are going to vaporize your colony, or some space god fucked up on quatloos decides to turn your entire civilization into table salt

September 12, 2016 - 13:11

Jacob Roberts

You're not going to bait me that easy

September 12, 2016 - 13:17

Austin Wright

what bait? the universe of star trek is incredibly dangerous. they make that point numerous times. have you seen TOS? they have to stop a planet-devouring doomsday weapon with a body of impenetrable supermetal from outside the galaxy. they they have to stop a space amoeba from devouring another planet full of billions of people.

shit, kirk even destroys a society that has literally computerized warfare. these two planets, in order to prevent nuclear armageddon from annihilating their societies, simulate warfare via computer and then make their citizens step into disintegration pods when they are "killed."

and that's just if your government doesn't lobotomize you because you're the wrong gender or hunt you down for sedition because you're a mutant, first.

September 12, 2016 - 13:35

Jeremiah Fisher

FUCKING POP-FEMINISTS REEEEEEEE

September 12, 2016 - 15:20

Austin Sanchez

...

September 12, 2016 - 15:28

Evan Peterson

I can't wait until she dies

September 12, 2016 - 15:57

Isaac Miller

Jesus. Did she watch the same video I did?
That wasn't normal exhaustion. She had to be hauled into the van like a literal sack of potatoes.

She didn't even seem cognizant of what was going on. The whole scene reminded me of trying to get a semi-conscious black-out drunk into a taxi.

September 12, 2016 - 15:58

Eli Taylor

Has she even been on camera since then, despite being "totally fine A-okay don't worry about it she was just overheated please believe us :^)"?

September 12, 2016 - 16:03

Aiden Brooks

last i heard halfchan was summoning the power of kek for the same purpose.
boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/88516832/praising-lord-kek-is-literally-black-magic

September 12, 2016 - 16:07

Julian Long

THE LEFTIST CASE FOR TRUMP

The 1% all hate him. The mainstream media is aligned in the same familiar narrative (the racist, sexist, whateverist, etc) trying to defeat him. He knows his employees in the lowest levels of his company and operates in a bottom-up approach, opposite of the current system which dictates from the top down. The working class love him since he is fighting for them and speaks directly to them, those who have been ignored for decades by the elites who have no loyalties to any people or nation, or class.

Therefore, shouldn't Leftists, since they allegedly support the working class, support Trump?

September 12, 2016 - 16:09

Hunter Williams

so delusional, i literally saw a post on my twitter feed that said that someone shouldn't be excluded from the presidency simply because they have a serious illness. holy crap! to think i used to buy into this whole idpol insanity!

that said i thought that subplot in the west wing regarding josiah bartlett's nearly almost totally inocuous MS was incredibly stupid and borderline offensive. nevermind completely illogical; one of the major supporting characters is deaf, but somehow MS isn't an exciting disability we should fall over ourselves to accomodate?

September 12, 2016 - 16:10

Eli Walker

maybe when he starts denouncing phyllis schafly as the hypocritical hag she was. what a fucking cunt omg.

sjws are stupid, but assholes like her give them a platform and a purpose.

September 12, 2016 - 16:13

Michael Lopez

pls go

September 12, 2016 - 16:15

Nathaniel Sullivan

no, Holla Forums, you go.

September 12, 2016 - 16:20

Gavin Williams

She was a woman of her time. She's dead now. Let it go.

September 12, 2016 - 16:20

Isaac Barnes

>porky cares about the deliciousnessfate of his victimssupporters
The only valid point in your post is that a vote for Trump is a vote for internecine porky-on-porky squabbles and pitchfork-a-riffic populism. Caring about Trump's purported policies, like ending neocon/neolib transnationalism, isn't reliable enough, since he flipflops and waffles so much. The only concrete accomplishments of Trump to date are infuriating rival porkies and rabblerousing somnambulant proles.

What next, Watergate?

September 12, 2016 - 16:20

Logan Lee

...

September 12, 2016 - 16:21

Aiden Russell

pick one

September 12, 2016 - 16:22

Camden King

I saw Shilary drones refer to Nixon's ill health to defend their neoliberal queen.
Add to that we already have democrats invoking reagan as a "positive" republican figure to attack Trump. The democrats have basically given up on pretending to be a party for workers. They're capitalism with a human face

September 12, 2016 - 16:23

Tyler Reyes

this is why i don't watch cable news or read mainstream publications or scroll thru twitter hashtags anymore, i might have to an hero.

September 12, 2016 - 16:26

Tyler Ortiz

Nope. Most wymyn are hysterics, just like most men are obsessives. What's the problem with that?

[spotted the hysteric]

wow, just, wow

sure, laddy

September 12, 2016 - 16:28

Liam Anderson

In typical Leftist fashion, you don't care about the working class at all, do you? You certainly disrespected them by calling them all "rabblerousing somnambulant proles". Have you ever considered that maybe they don't want your Utopia because they know it will only bring to them death and destruction and chaos?

September 12, 2016 - 16:28

Daniel Wilson

DELET THIS

September 12, 2016 - 16:31

Leo Hernandez

after seeing her cough up/vomit balls of goo
youtu.be/2GvmKwSC_x0?t=45
and hear her coughing
youtube.com/watch?v=H133cTro1NQ
it was obv. that something was gravely wrong with her

I loved how TYT tried to portray it as a standard "right wing distraction from the policies" shtick.

September 12, 2016 - 16:33

Jayden Morgan

...

September 12, 2016 - 16:37

Jaxson Evans

hey anybody want to read my fanfic

September 12, 2016 - 16:38

Carter Harris

Once, very shortly (after sufficiently bathing the the blood of virgins/a hard reset).

While, if the Clinton machine's narrative is to be believed - exposing a child to pneumonia for the sake of a photo op.

September 12, 2016 - 16:39

Dylan Nguyen

no, fuck off

September 12, 2016 - 16:39

Brandon Lewis

what would you call the other 600 thousand words then

September 12, 2016 - 16:40

Matthew Green

Now their capitalism in your face, specifically the progressiveTM kind.

They care about the working class, but some of the class left deals with so much reactionary rhetoric they've heard all the time, the same arguments over and over 'muh iphones!' 'Humen natur!' and 'lol utopia' that some of them just begin to hate humanity. Others are too quickly to dismiss the potentially class conscious. TBH he could be an anarcho-nihlist for all I know.

Also, some of us just want workers owning the MOP. CO-OPs are a pretty good idea moving forward, and so on. Even a stateless, moneyless, classless society is hardly what one would call a utopia fam.

September 12, 2016 - 16:42

Asher Evans

Oh, Mike!

September 12, 2016 - 16:45

Aiden Fisher

The working class is typically conservative for good reasons. They recognize that hierarchy exists and that, while you can teach a monkey how to do sign language, he will still hurl shit at you if he's in a bad mood. Human nature doesn't change on a fundamental level and utopia will never be realized because conflict will always exist if you stick two people in the same room long enough.

Leftists are arrogant when they think they are misunderstood. We know exactly what they are thinking and why. It's mostly making excuses and projecting their own insecurities on others. Most of us grew out of that because we realized it was all a waste of time.

If you got the right group of people together, you might have a chance. But most people are unreliable.

You guys don't need to torture yourselves with all this theorhetical nonsense anymore. Come over to the Right side. Let's adapt to work with what we have instead of wasting time and energy making excuses.

September 12, 2016 - 17:03

David Ortiz

I was describing Trump's (quite possibly accidental, like the Tea Party going off the rails) effect on them. Allow me to break down that sentence for your illiterate Holla Forumslack eyes:
Trump, or maybe just those supporting him, has caused a furor of popular agitation
Most Americans have usually been politically compliant and nonparticipatory
A term to denote the overwhelming majority of citizens as working-class, as distinct from other, smaller or less productive classes

I am praising the (intentional or not) mobilization and radicalization of the average burgerlander against neoconservatism/neoliberalism as a result of the Bern/Trump phenomenon.

September 12, 2016 - 17:07

Alexander Lee

I hope you die of a heroin overdose.

September 12, 2016 - 17:08

William Taylor

Nobody's arguing for utopia, retard. There's nothing in """human nature""" that says you need to give 90% of everything you produce to some rich guy who claims to own you or else stuff can't be produced and the economy falls apart. You obviously don't know the first fucking thing about socialism, which is something you should probably fix if you want to criticize it.

September 12, 2016 - 17:10

Hunter Clark

get back to us after this, k?
youtube.com/watch?v=hy8y2CCGcwo&list=PL3F695D99C91FC6F7&index=3

September 12, 2016 - 17:13

Ethan Adams

well maybe if yo didn't talk like a fag i'd understand you. how can you expect the working class proles to support your utopia if you talk in riddles? pull your head out of your ass.

wow triggered like literally

oh? "if only workers owned the means of production"? that isn't utopian thinking? Don't they already like some companies make their employees shareholders, like, isn't that what you mean?

September 12, 2016 - 17:13

Sebastian Jenkins

Dropped

September 12, 2016 - 17:14

Benjamin Bennett

...

September 12, 2016 - 17:15

Henry Anderson

You must be breddy smrt. you read books about stuff that doesn't matter lel

September 12, 2016 - 17:18

Lucas Young

Society wouldn't be perfect if the proles owned the MoP, but it would be better than it is now. The objective of socialists isn't to create a perfect society, but to end the exploitation of labour by the bourgeoisie.

September 12, 2016 - 17:19

Jordan Perez

Maybe you'd have a bigger vocabulary instead of a bigger asshole if you weren't such a massive gaylorde?

September 12, 2016 - 17:20

Alexander Jenkins

Oh? I dunno, most people like having good leadership in their group, otherwise everyone just stands around clueless waiting for the hardest working guy to do it for em. Hierarchy exists m8. Don't deny it.

September 12, 2016 - 17:21

Luke Morris

Calling me a fag sure supports your position and defeats mine.

That was your logic, wasn't it? You're equating the means of production with the means of government? Personally I'm skeptical of democracy since it lets people like Obama (and maybe hillary) be president.

September 12, 2016 - 17:23

Aiden Martin

Literally what I was just talking about. The working class is mostly conservative due to taxes Although historically, they tend to pick the worst party for them in that sense.

Human nature is always changing. Hierarchies haven't always existed, and largely weren't that common until about feudalism. You seem to be also confusing them with leadership, especially when it's direct, democratically elected or not.

Leftists aren't so much misunderstood as its the main ideas we're trying to get across. You also seem to be confusing us with mere liberal, which would make sense if your north American. The left there has been essentially castrated.

Considering your admission to refusal to reading the material and ideas your criticizing, your opinion is starting to lose some value.

This TBH. There would be tribalism, conflict, violence, and even conquest in this so called 'utopia'.

When you think about it, your only solving one or two big problems that have side effects Like the oncoming economic crash based on Capitalism built in contradictions. I also grantee with increased and direct democracy there would still be corruption and nepotism. The separation of powers would be about mitigating the damage.

Hierarchy =/= leadership. You've proven that you don't know the difference. Don't think like a cuck.

September 12, 2016 - 17:25

Austin Young

It's not a perfect system, but at least it's better than one that allows Obama/Clinton/[insert worst president ever] to become Benevolent Dictator for Life.

September 12, 2016 - 17:33

Blake Cruz

This is because the modern political dialogue has been reduced to that. The rise of Trump is an indication that there is much more that the establishment elites haven't been talking about, such as national and cultural preservation. The low taxes was just a talking point. Trump changed all that.

I disagree. Self-interest is what motivates the human animal, and if conforming to certain cultural norms means he will better his odds, he will, but only to a point. Humans are not machines and no amount of social engineering can make humans behave like machines.

Stone age tribes were very hierarchical. Every nomadic tribe has a chief guy and an elder caste. Even in circles of friends you have the guy everyone makes fun of. Hierarchy certainly exists in the workplace in the guy everyone shit on. You can not escape hierarchy. You are who you are, some may be better, some may be worse. We are not all equal.

Which is what? That workers should own the means of production? If that happened, that would mean the bad employee would be holding everyone else back. So do you kill him? What? Like the French revolution, when would the murder end?

I don't see any difference between you, an anarchist, a Maoist, or whatever. To me you're all insane. You ignore hard truths and believe that you can fix man or mans systems with a bit of wordplay. Doesn't work that way.

I don't take you seriously, you're right. I am however having fun engaging, and do honestly hope that you guys may one day see the light.

He called me a fag, fag.
They would never be dictator for life in any saner social order either.

September 12, 2016 - 17:39

Julian Ramirez

...

September 12, 2016 - 17:46

Levi Mitchell

How can it be that you are so confused?

September 12, 2016 - 17:48

Angel Sanchez

Oh yeah, and you know this from the study of all those written records and histories left behind by stone age tribes right? The fact that all modern hunter gatherer societies operate under primitive communism is surely a 21st c. corruption of the natural order, right?

In other words, you don't even know what the fuck you're arguing against and you just think everyone who is different from you is wrong without even engaging with their positions. Good to know.

So far your main strategy seems like it's saying 'well [thing that explicitly isn't a goal of socialism] isn't possible because HUMAN NATURE so socialism can't work.' You seem to only be familiar with the pop culture version of socialism/communism. Stop posting and rectify that.

Hierarchy is not the same as people looking to those they respect for leadership. Socialists don't advocate for making everyone perfectly equal. In a non-hierarchical system, leaders would still emerge by the process you described with groups of friends or at the workplace.

The difference is that the workplace leader would be decided upon by the workers themselves, and it wouldn't be set in stone. Even in a primitive New Guinean hunter-gatherer band, for example, you might have one guy who's top cock for a time, and gets old and senile. Because his power is based entirely on other people respecting and willingly listening to him, as soon as he loses his wits, he loses his respect and thus he loses his authority. In a hierarchical system, none of that matters - if a senile, ignorant shit sits in a position of authority, you have no choice but to listen no matter what you or anyone else thinks.

If a worker-run workplace had a guy who was a particular troublemaker, they could still kick him out, or put him in a position where he's of more use and less trouble. If it's in the interest of the collective, why wouldn't they do it? After all, they have the authority. Now what if that guy was the boss's nephew?

Socialism doesn't mean you're entitled to anything except the value of your own work. You don't have to treat everyone nicely or eliminate all conflict. It absolutely does not mean that you have to tolerate troublemakers.

Of course people are motivated by self interest, and it's in their self-interest to not be exploited by porky. People also work together and consider the needs of others. When your mother asks you to pass the salt at the dinner table, you wouldn't say 'WELL WHAT'S IN IT FOR ME WHY SHOULD I DO SOMETHING NICE FOR SOMEONE ELSE HUH I ONLY DO STUFF THAT BENEFITS ME?' Neither would any other sane functioning human being. On that basis, workplace democracy and communal ownership can thrive.

September 12, 2016 - 18:15

Josiah Walker

Pic related. Imagine there only being two or three categories instead of all the layers of separation. Also, extended families are the real traditional family.

You do realize that our means of obtaining our self interests have always changed, don't you? Nevermind the fact we have had to collaborate with our fellow man throughout history. Also, most things we want, we are taught to want. Consumer products is the most obvious example. read zizek.

Also, elder were not unlike intellectuals, and in fact were more important before written language. They also cooperated more with each other more directly than we do know. I can also assume you think we're against meritocracy, when the best way to get closer to it is getting past capitalism. Most 'western culture' in north America at least, is just consumerism and jingoism, that is also something to be bought and sold like a commodity. Sure sounds like something worth protecting indeed.

I'm guessing your confusing me with scientifically illiterate SJWs? Or do you think capitalism is in our DNA? Lurk moar either way.

Nice double standard. This isn't about wordplay. It's about seeing problems, getting to the root and solving them the best way we can. The least you could do is figure out the difference between these different groups. It;s not even just about getting smart, it's about knowing what your criticizing here. You seem spooked.

September 12, 2016 - 18:18

Xavier Collins

tldr

September 12, 2016 - 18:32

Carter Walker

Well I certainly wouldn't mind if this piece of shit excuse for a "journalist" died from pneumonia.

September 12, 2016 - 21:05

Hunter Williams

He's so in tune with his employees' needs that they're striking for better wages :^)

September 12, 2016 - 21:07

Christopher James

Why is America's media so stupid?

September 13, 2016 - 07:30

Caleb Torres

archive.is/UjVr6
TRUMP LOVES PUTIN LOVES TRUMP LOVES PUTIN LOVES TRUMP LOVES PUTIN LOVES TRUMP LOVES PUTIN

September 13, 2016 - 10:26

Colton Ortiz

You believe this bollocks?

September 13, 2016 - 10:46

Luis White

good reasons like "they believe what the upper classes tell them about hierarchy being necessary"? like "they are afraid of change"?
Wow I'll try not to be offended
wew irrelevant AND false
this is called dialectics you moron. the goal of leftism is to make everyone's interests samey so conflict is minimized, not eliminated. rightism embraces conflict.
lmao
lmao
lmao
lmao
no examples given for any of this
under current conditions where material needs are relevant uh yeah
"Rightism: because who needs theory and methodology when you have SKULL INFOGRAPHS???"
"Leave everything and follow me" -Stormfag Jesus

If the fundamental workings of society don't matter then what does?

September 13, 2016 - 11:56

Adam Hill

When will this meme die.

September 13, 2016 - 12:04

Mason Cooper

Because it's made by and for americans

September 13, 2016 - 13:34

Thomas Russell

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/775806762490343424

New documents from the DNC by Guccifer 2
twitter.com/wikileaks/status/775812373269454848

September 13, 2016 - 16:19

Adrian Jenkins

theintercept.com/2016/09/13/colin-powell-emails/

Colin Powell Urged Hillary Clinton’s Team Not to Scapegoat Him for Her Private Server, Leaked Emails Reveal

I have a feeling I'm going to be waking up to some pretty interesting headlines tomorrow.

Sanders/Assange 2016

September 13, 2016 - 17:36

Jackson Powell

Even scapegoating Powell is retarded. It's just a "everyone else was doing it!" deflection. I don't see how that addresses the core issue: that even if Clinton wasn't willfully violating records-keeping laws (she was), she keeps displaying poor judgment time after time.

September 13, 2016 - 18:13

Dominic Jenkins

Why's he's getting salty about being the cucked Uncle Tom now. They cucked him on the 1996 election, they cucked him on the Iraq War, what's one more over the e-mails. IS IT CAUSE SHE'S A WOMAN!

September 13, 2016 - 18:24

Justin Lewis

disinfo.com/2016/03/whiteroserevolt-anti-fascism/
How is Hillary just as bad as Trump again?

September 13, 2016 - 19:22

Noah Ross

Well they're both neoliberals. They'll both push policies that screw over workers, fueling fascist populism.

Maybe Clinton would use state power to clamp down on it, but she's so duplicitous who knows.

September 13, 2016 - 20:02

Samuel Barnes

Easy: if she's President she will absolutely guarantee the continued erosion of the Democrat base in swing states, causing the GOP to obtain a Supermajority before the 2020 Census, allowing them to Gerrymander themselves into perpetual power. A GOP Supermajority government would have no checks on it's power, and all sorts of insane shit (ie a national right to work law, Amtrak privatization, US mail privatization, medicare/social security privatization, K12 privatization etc) would occur.

8 years of bullshit is preferable to 80+. Do not forget that the Democrats did not have any power in the federal government (exception being Wilson) until FDR. Their status as a national party is tenuous if they keep being retarded and pushing GOP-lite policies. People who want GOP policies want the real deal while everyone else is disenfranchised.

Also, the US already has a national deportation/concentration camp system one which New York Senator Hilary Clinton voted in favor for, back when the DHS was formed through the Patriot Act in 2003. She is the same, except a different face and a -D scapegoat instead of an -R.

September 13, 2016 - 20:29

Charles Cruz

Correction: the DHS (the people who operate the camps) was created through the 2002 Homeland Security Act. Hilary voted Yea:

govtrack.us/congress/votes/107-2002/s249

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Immigration_and_Customs_Enforcement

ice.gov/detention-facilities

locator.ice.gov/odls/homePage.do

September 13, 2016 - 20:33

Parker Butler

Let's face it. The only way to fix this either way is a revolution.

September 13, 2016 - 21:58

Nathaniel Smith

OK, I officially hate this bitch.
Sam won't even interview Jill after she requested to be on the show and got a 5000 signature petition, but will give Gary Johnson air time and happily roast her.

youtu.be/VimfLF9V0MY

September 13, 2016 - 23:00

Easton Bailey

And, as the Tea Party as shown, first the collaborators' influence must be marginalized. In 2008 the GOP was completely locked out of the national government and the Democrats held 2/3rds of all states. People were uncertain if the GOP could even win back the South, and as such the neocons lost their power grip on the party as people like Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio ascended into power using obstructionist libertarianism.

We can pull the same stunt with the Democrats, should Hilary loose this year. The party politburo will effectively be made null and a newer, more progressive and truly socialist movement can take it over. Trump will even hand us a huge asset: tariffs (which help Labor, which in turn rebuilds the Democrats' base downballot). It'd take a lot of work, sweat and tears but it can happen. Enough to prevent a GOP takeover in 2020, then enough to take back the government in the 2020s themselves.

Such a thing is NOT plausible if Hilary is the face, and brains, of the party.

September 13, 2016 - 23:09

Jose Davis

But what happens if The Donald consolidates his power with the implicit threat of violence from the military and/or far-right militias? That sounds like something this demagogue could get away with and would certainly do if he got the opportunity. On the other hand, Hillary, while scandalous af, probably wouldn't attempt to consolidate her power to the extent that Trump would, and wouldn't get away with it because the far right militias (those who own the most guns in this country) would revolt.

September 13, 2016 - 23:22

Joseph Hernandez

I somewhat regret ever laughing at her Daily Show jokes.

September 13, 2016 - 23:35

Mason Thomas

I am beyond mad

September 14, 2016 - 00:33

Eli Russell

Top kek

September 14, 2016 - 01:08

Dominic Reyes

Trump has no reason to consolidate his power, given that the real power is in the legislature. This is why winning Congress, or at least preventing a Supermajority (which is the total consolidation of power into Congress) should be the priority. There's also enough libertarians inside the GOP willing it kick Trump down if only so they can increase their own influence inside the party. Secondly, "right wing militias" are not in any way organized like things such as the SS were. Most "militias" are groups of dumbasses that use it as an excuse to go hiking and shooting; there is no uniform and no badge. No cause. And most of them won't put their lives on the line (ie a murder conviction) for an isolated party that they themselves do not trust.

Same goes for Hilary, though she would be unable to consolidate her power because Congress would just say No. At least until a GOP Supermajority, which is when Congress would be able to do anything they can dream up. Also militias will never revolt, they just won't respect gun laws (as is already the case in upstate NY, Jefferson, and rural Massachusetts).

September 14, 2016 - 01:41

Henry Cruz

Clam down there, laddy. She's just doing her job.

September 14, 2016 - 03:29

Luis Myers

That article is retarded. Do they know that "use of force and militias" in Weimar Germany (and other nations where fascism arose, like Italy, Spain, and Japan) was a result of central government disintegrating to the point where all major political parties maintained private armies that fought with each other, only sometimes working with the official security forces? Fascism can't happen unless the country lurches into a state of open civil war (and I don't mean le ebin riots, I mean large groups of armed civilian partisans killing each other and holding territory), which the US obviously isn't.

September 14, 2016 - 03:39

Gavin Collins

Could someone archive this?

September 14, 2016 - 03:41

Jordan Sullivan

Exactly. Neocons have practically been expelled from their own party at this point, like the shitty numbers for Jeb and Christie show. That and they were faggots. All that is left of them are the warmongering culture warrior boomers, and not the "moderate on policy" bit. The two factions have essentially attained an even more dangerous synthesis. It's actually rather remarkable.

Dialectics is the light

September 14, 2016 - 07:14

Oliver Jackson

I am so glad I never watched her new show

September 14, 2016 - 07:27

Connor Walker

I'm not watching that shit but how did she criticize Baenie and Stein?

September 14, 2016 - 08:31

Michael Butler

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3789021/Hillary-Clinton-HATES-President-Obama-defeating-2008-election-according-leaked-emails-refers-man.html

Leaked Colin Powell emails reveal Clinton can't forgive President Obama for 'kicking her a** in 2008', and 'was so sick giving paid speech she could barely walk up steps'

Major political donor Jeffrey Leeds told Colin Powell in an email last March that Hillary Clinton 'HATES' President Obama
Leeds also claimed that the Clintons refer to President Obama as 'that man'
In another email exchange, Leeds claims that Clinton was so sick she could 'barely climb the podium steps' before giving a speech
Powell and former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice describe Benghazi as a 'witch hunt' in another email exhcnage
Powell also referred to Donald Trump as a 'racist' and 'national disgrace' in an email
The emails were hacked from Powell's private GMail account

lol and it goes on and on

archive.is/59oqE

September 14, 2016 - 08:32

James Adams

iirc it wasn't so much "criticism" as "smug dismissal" without addressing any of their key points

she's a corpcuck

September 14, 2016 - 08:34

Cameron Smith

I really hate when comedians become spineless corporate tools. Just sucks all the funny out of the room.

September 14, 2016 - 08:52

Nolan Ramirez

Holla Forums can fuck off for making me genuinely believe S█████ had a chance of winning

Looks like another 8 years of neoliberalism comrades

September 14, 2016 - 09:23

Nathaniel Lewis

first of all, it isn't leftypols fault you're retarded

second, the game ain't over yet

September 14, 2016 - 09:29

Carter Miller

In hindsight, his chance ended when the Hillary Victory Fund was formed. But he has a new one now. Clinton's campaign is saying she'll be back on the trail by Thursday but I don't know what they're thinking, she has Alzheimer's and now pneumonia, she won't even survive her first term.

September 14, 2016 - 10:11

Noah Clark

cbsnews.com/news/poll-donald-trump-leads-hillary-clinton-in-ohio-battleground/

IT'S OVER

SANDERS/BIDEN WHEN?

September 14, 2016 - 10:21

Jonathan Jenkins

Daily reminder that Clinton is only leading significantly in 278 electoral votes, and she is guaranteed to get at least slightly less popular. She needs 270 to win.

It's over whether she drops out or not. The president like I've been saying since late November will either be S█████ or Trump.

September 14, 2016 - 10:29

Leo Nelson

Theres no fucking way the DNC would ever replace Clinton with S█████. Either she gets elected as a figure head with the DNC shadow lords in charge or Trump will win with the GOP shadow lords in charge. Honestly this election shows how little democracy the US actually fucking has.

September 14, 2016 - 10:35

Jonathan Morgan

You seem to overestimate them. Not everyone in the DNC is in on the conspiracy or favors it. They could say "fuck the bylaws" but the bylaws say they have to have members of the DNC vote, who are selected by states. States are pissed about the Hillary Victory Fund being a slush fund. Plus I'm not sure I fully understand the process but if it involves the existing Hillary pledged delegates recasting their votes it'll be even easier.
Everyone says this but it's bullshit. I don't know why it's so hard to see that B████ ██████ is going to be the second pick of at least 'some' in the DNC. It's not like they like Biden either. Politicians aren't Jews that get together and talk about how they can work against their own interests to screw other people over. Neither are Jews.

September 14, 2016 - 12:20

Aiden Perez

youtube.com/watch?v=eKztHPHUqGU
POLL: America Wants [REDACTED] Back
This is the future you chose, DNC

September 14, 2016 - 14:16

Christian Murphy

This, it would be much appreciated if someone can archive and post the link.

September 14, 2016 - 14:44

Jackson Hill

slick willy at it again

September 14, 2016 - 14:51

Hudson James

These leakers are doing God's work.

Is there a link to this? Almost seems too good to be true. If it is true, that's fucking hilarious; getting to see how these people really feel.

September 14, 2016 - 14:53

Hudson Wilson

twitter.com/willrahn/status/776100071658098688/photo/1

September 14, 2016 - 14:55

Josiah Watson

reddit.com/r/politics/comments/52ru8j/powell_in_leaked_email_slams_bill_clinton_on/

I found it, too. It does suck though that the media only focuses on the "juiciest" emails from these leaks, rather than the most damning corruption.

September 14, 2016 - 14:58

Nathaniel Ortiz

...

September 14, 2016 - 14:58

Wyatt Peterson

The New York Post is literally a tabloid

September 14, 2016 - 15:21

Elijah Robinson

The US is a Democracy. Or at least half so. The powers that be wanted 2016 to be Hilary vs Jeb. The idea of Jeb Bush running the GOP was so completely revolting to *all* Republicans that he could not pick up a single delegate in the primaries. Then it came down to Cruz vs Trump, and Trump had the support of blue state Republicans. And Trump himself won largely because he could pin the TPP on Cruz (who was the GOP Senate co-sponsor of the bill) and cast Cruz as anti-labor (a thing which blue collar workers, frustrated and desperate, ate up).

This is not an endorsement of Trump, but the process to which he was elected fits the definition of "Democratic".

On the flip side, the Democrats themselves took every plausible chance to screw over S█████ (including the rigging in California) and Jim Webb. I truly wish Webb had stayed in the race, because he would have denied Hilary the South and allowed S█████ to slip by with a plurality of votes. But that didn't happen.

September 14, 2016 - 15:53

Josiah Bennett

We don't deserve Jim. He's a man for a different era. Maybe this is just my burger showing but I felt shades of JFK from him.

September 14, 2016 - 16:12

Nicholas Rodriguez

He's the hero we need, not the one we deserve. He's one of the few people capable of bringing socialism to America in a means that both parties will accept.

It's hilarious that Hilary could not get him as veep which is clearly why she bounced to Kaine.

September 14, 2016 - 16:33

Robert Roberts

Webb has been vocally opposed to every AWB proposition. Kaine is a dumb fudd who thinks the 2nd Amendment should only apply to hunting rifles. He fits perfectly with the general Dem anti-gun platform.

September 14, 2016 - 17:57

James Gomez

Honestly, Webb felt like a 80s-era Republican rather than at all leftist but I should've looked into him more instead of just making that assumption.

September 14, 2016 - 18:22

Lucas Davis

wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13578
>Whatever the reason, denying the delegate math does neither S█████ nor the Democratic Party much good. There are surely benefits to keeping a nominee accountable with a competitive race, but Team B████ must argue that these pros outweigh the cons of a prolonged, increasingly negative campaign. It's not really possible to tease out cause and effect here, but Clinton's unfavorability ratings have risen substantiallyelections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/hillary-clinton-favorable-rating> in the last several months. The "Bernie or bust" meme is almost surely an empty threatvox.com/2016/3/28/11319720/bernie-or-bust-sanders>, but it remains to be seen how much of this Clinton enmity carries over to the general election. And now, having roused the full ire of the internet, my spreadsheets and I will go into hiding until the dust settles around Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton.

September 14, 2016 - 18:47

Evan Rivera

More like a 50s era Republican. The type that supported higher taxes, clean energy and nationalized passenger railroad service (ie, Nixon).

It's a low bar but it's better than either party at the moment.

September 14, 2016 - 20:17

Luke Miller

What is the significance of this?

September 14, 2016 - 20:22

Kevin Murphy

Big news: Trump just won Michegan

freep.com/story/money/cars/ford/2016/09/14/mexico-ford-shiftng-us-car-production-mexico/90355146/

Hilary cannot win unless she starts talking Tariffs. Otherwise, the remaining Union workers in Michegan will not turnout for her (or even vote against her, given that her husband caused all their problems in the first place) and Trump will win. If MI flips, then based on current polling/predictions etc Trump will have 270 votes.

Remember, in four months when neoliberals and collaborator scum ask "how could trump happen???" point to this.

September 14, 2016 - 20:38

Blake Bailey

Respectively.

September 14, 2016 - 20:47

Cameron Sanchez

...

September 14, 2016 - 22:47

Ethan Nelson

Assange's October Surprise is very real, it seems. Colin Powell confirmed the legitimacy of the second batch of emails, and suggests more will come.

snopes.com/2016/09/14/colin-powell-email-leak/

Establishment politicians (especially the former Secretary of State, Joint Chiefs of Staff Chair, and National Security Advisory) don't say this without meaning it. Hilary is fucked once the next batch drops, and her fate is sealed. Even if she does win, the next Congress will make a point of destroying her as President.

check the media damage control:

nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/colin-powell-calls-trump-national-disgrace-hacked-emails-n648011

September 14, 2016 - 22:51

Nolan Martinez

She was never funny in the slightest.

This will never happen.

If her health doesn't take her out of the race the emails surely will.

September 14, 2016 - 23:34

Julian Hernandez

wat does "hits" mean?

September 15, 2016 - 00:17

Joshua Myers

Bernie genuinely would have been the best president in US history, I honestly can't believe we came so close to it happening.

Even if he's not a proper socialist, just imagine what could have been…

September 15, 2016 - 01:58

Jonathan Jenkins

And this is what exactly?

September 15, 2016 - 02:15

Carter Myers

Don't cry over it, better things will rise. Hilary will go down in one of the biggest defeats in US history, think Reagan in '80. And out of it, the Democratic Party will be FORCED back to the left. Trump himself will even give it to us on a platinum and jewel encrusted platter by passing Tariffs (which help Labor).

Shit happens and I'm not happy that it had to go down like this either. But Hilary will loose and neoliberalism will die. That is the only thing that matters.

September 15, 2016 - 02:17

Anthony Gutierrez

if I had to guess, "talking points" or something similar

September 15, 2016 - 02:18

Jayden Hughes

iirc "hits" were pieces they wrote or had produced themselves and then distributed to media outlets for propagation. they mention elsewhere in the DNC emails that they have shills on Medium doing similar astroturfing/sockpuppet bullshit

September 15, 2016 - 02:18

Matthew Parker

pre-writing articles for "journalists" to cannibalize is nothing new

it's common practice and trade shows and industry conventions, too

September 15, 2016 - 02:19

Gavin Jones

...

September 15, 2016 - 02:21

Elijah Morris

No, I mean what's the source. Is this a wikileaks thing? Don't crop out the source if you want it taken seriously fagets.

September 15, 2016 - 02:41

Cooper Perry

>Trump will force out mass economic immigration instead of opening "a great big beautiful door" for "the cheapestright people"
I don't believe any of his flipflopping "promises", but hopefully most of his supporters do, so when he inevitably betrays them, they will remain angry enough work with us on bringing about real change in this country.

September 15, 2016 - 02:57

Dylan Sullivan

I believe he will, as all he cares about is amassing power for his party and this begins with trade protectionism which guarantees seats in swing states (especially Ohio and Pennsylvania). Fear rules the GOP, and people who are fearful of their blue collar careers are looking for answers. The GOP will provide them with a solution two years before the Democrats can.

Regardless, if he doesn't deliver on Tariffs we still benefit as the Democrats can then bounce back into what they should be doing and push for them themselves, which will cause them to win back the legislature and (eventually) the Presidency.

September 15, 2016 - 03:37

Henry Watson

He would have taken no shit from wall street whatsoever, for once the working class might have the boot slightly lifted off their necks

September 15, 2016 - 04:22

Grayson Flores

Meanwhile, in Hillary's burning wreck of a campaign.

September 15, 2016 - 04:54

Adrian Smith

...

September 15, 2016 - 05:02

Jacob Nguyen

wikileaks just dropped TiSA

September 15, 2016 - 06:15

Levi Ortiz

Wikileaks have implicated Obama.

observer.com/2016/09/wikileaks-guccifer-2-0-obama-sold-off-public-offices-to-donors/

It's not direct evidence, but it indicates a clear conflict-of-interest that everyone inside the administration knew about. Which makes the October Surprise all the more worrisome for Obama and Hilary. Right now, he's now roped into the fiasco that was previously a Hilary-only affair. An affair that might require him to testify before Congress.

September 15, 2016 - 06:27

Cooper Bailey

Assange is claiming he has proof that the dems purged voter rolls to affect the election and he's posting it tomorrow

September 15, 2016 - 06:30

Austin Hall

They can attempt to make whatever excuses they want for this but the bottom line is any of these ambassadors now serving just had the foreign trust their position demands greatly damaged.

September 15, 2016 - 06:32

Camden Murphy

Democrats/Liberals have been trying so hard to demonize Assange I'm curious how many people will pay attention to this.

September 15, 2016 - 06:36

Andrew Parker

Hey, it worked for Kennedy and Obama.

September 15, 2016 - 06:38

Jack Kelly

The important ones will, namely the Republicans running the House Oversight Committee and House Judiciary Committee. They smell blood and have the votes to act upon it, even if it means going all the way to the top (the sitting President). As for everyone else, I reckon it'll be in the news enough and cause enough Democrats to become disenfranchised where they won't vote or vote GOP out of frustration.

Point being, there's no turning back. The original DNCleaks resulted in the DNC leadership resigning, the second wave has hit Hilary when she is not in a position to refute it (as she's sick). The third one will likely hit her right before election day. Even if she does somehow still win, so much shit will be there Congress will have no problem tearing her up as President.

September 15, 2016 - 06:43

Nathan Robinson

Oh God, please please. It would be awesome to have the evidence of this. Bastards.

Just like "bias" with the DNC for Hillary, we all know it's happening, but it's a different story when you have the evidence right in front of you.

September 15, 2016 - 07:02

Wyatt Morgan

Enough.

September 15, 2016 - 07:27

Jason Morgan

We've had the evidence before, more than enough, even in the middle of the campaign. More and stronger would certainly be helpful, but there was already more than enough to justify serious legal proceedings. Current efforts, like those of Election Justice USA, would be bolstered most by the assistance of partisan legislators initiating investigative committees.

It's pretty much true, though. When the Republicans were in power, they were the ones screaming loudest for Assange and the leakers who fed him to be apprehended and executed as traitors; now that the Democrats are in power (and the primary targets of leaks), they are the ones bitching the whiniest about the evils of truth, justice, and the American way.

September 15, 2016 - 07:38

Brody Lewis

Meanwhile, B████ ██████ took time away from his own book writing to protest the Dakota Access pipeline.

You have no idea how much I hate this presidential election.

September 15, 2016 - 07:41

Luke Bennett

This election has been the most glorious moment in politics since FDR and WWII

September 15, 2016 - 07:48

Tyler Johnson

Well, it's nice to see her taking the prospect of her victory seriously.

September 15, 2016 - 07:52

Leo Wilson

...

September 15, 2016 - 07:58

Gavin Hernandez

Sorry, my bad. I was on my phone and misinterpreted the txts I was getting.

twitter.com/danrolle/status/776272182477410304

reddit.com/r/DNCleaks/comments/52v31c/major_leak_tomorrow_from_me_directly_proof_nvdems/

according to the comments he put out a video saying he was going to release it today

September 15, 2016 - 08:10

Cooper Roberts

...

September 15, 2016 - 08:18

Mason Reed

Hey guys, just a reminder to stop spreading nutty conspiracies of there being a collusion between American media and the government, because it's all unfounded and frankly childish

September 15, 2016 - 09:10

Eli Clark

Are you trying to insinuate that these people's personal relationships might have some influence on their behavior? That's frankly absurd.

September 15, 2016 - 09:20

Isaiah Gomez

He's shilling for buffet (the owner of BNSF, the predominant railway in the area). I still love him though.

September 15, 2016 - 13:00

Austin Parker

Elaborate? He has a connection to this railway owner?

September 15, 2016 - 13:16

Jack Adams

This is the end,
My beautiful friend
My only friend the end.

September 15, 2016 - 14:43

Joshua Diaz

...

September 15, 2016 - 14:54

Nicholas Thompson

…it's been two years and I'm getting the feeling that nothing's changed.

September 15, 2016 - 15:08

Jeremiah Robinson

no pipeline -> more oil trains

BNSF also has the Right-Of-Way and not even natives can stop them from building over their reservation if it's conductive to interstate commerce. Such is how common carriers operate.

September 15, 2016 - 15:18

Jose Bailey

twitter.com/danrolle/status/776272182477410304

Guy claims to have proof of election fraud in Nevada caucus.

September 15, 2016 - 15:24

Jordan Campbell

he gon turn up dead by next week

September 15, 2016 - 15:25

Ryder Rodriguez

I've used votebuilder. I don't think what they mean is that it was used as a tool to purge people, but rather used to identify people who vote a certain way and then purge them.

For those who don't know votebuilder is a database the dems use which tracks registered voters, includes info on which primaries they've voted in, as well as any surveys they have answered for the democrats.

September 15, 2016 - 15:37

Leo Bennett

No, I got that point.I was mainly asking about how B████ was shilling for them, but I guess you mean indirectly rather than something sinister like a connection with the company.

September 15, 2016 - 16:04

Jaxon White

Sam Bee is probably more insufferable than Wilmore was (or Oliver or Noah is) and that's fucking saying something.

September 15, 2016 - 16:36

Brayden Gray

...

September 15, 2016 - 16:37

James Perez

rt.com/usa/359465-clinton-book-low-sales/

The Clinton campaign is fucking tanking.

Only time will tell if they'll own up to it and drop out. But the next president will not be Hillary.

September 15, 2016 - 16:45

Jason Taylor

...

September 15, 2016 - 16:49

Luke Morales

She is incompetent for letting someone as plainly stupid as Trump gain on her.

Absolutely pathetic.

Please keep this kind of content on Holla Forums. It's not as funny as you may think.

September 15, 2016 - 16:51

Austin Ortiz

I've been bingewatching too much. Also I don't even browse Holla Forums anymore.

September 15, 2016 - 16:53

Adam Jackson

Please, this whole election has been "whose gonna kill hill". She had an early lead based on name recognition but now people have to make up their minds and few can justify voting for such an obviously out-of-touch and airheaded person as Hilary. She has no policy "grab" or angle that people want, and even on specific niche issues people are not trusting of her. The GOP was going to stomp the fuck out of her it was just a question of how.

She never had a chance. Which is why the Democrats should be absolutely ashamed of themselves that they let her run in the first place. Anyone else could have beaten Trump.

September 15, 2016 - 17:06

Jeremiah Martin

I mean she had a chance just by the fact she was up against trump. Anyone else would probably be crushing her at this point.

September 15, 2016 - 17:07

Ayden Sullivan

Exactly this.

That's just not true. If there was one major thrust of her political rhetoric, from her own statements at the top all the way down to her supporters, it was an emphasis on "muh pragmatism". Remember how B████ was "too extreme"? All she had to do was continuously and consistently make points about nominally progressive policies that she was allegedly going to implement. Also, keep all her skeletons under wraps in her closet. She's failed on both counts. Firstly, her campaign went fairly unnoticed after the Dem Convention, letting Trump talk out of his ass in hopes that he self-implodes and kept alienating certain voters. Secondly, her team was incompetent at keeping a secure lid on all her bullshit. So much for muh practical liberalism. Pure incompetence.

September 15, 2016 - 17:32

Eli Cox

Sorry, I misread. I originally saw what you read as the other way around. That is, anyone else other than Hillary would be crushing Trump.

September 15, 2016 - 17:34

Nicholas Robinson

that is also true

September 15, 2016 - 17:36

Sebastian Walker

[CAN'T WAKE UP]

September 15, 2016 - 17:46

Noah Lopez

neoliberalism is crumbling user, even if trump wins it only has a couple years left in it.

September 15, 2016 - 17:49

Jonathan Wilson

Watch, he'll be enshrined like Reagan was too.

September 15, 2016 - 18:02

Daniel Cruz

This. S█████ has poisoned the well by making young voters aware of class issues. It's only a matter of time before the Neoliberals are thrown to the curb.

September 15, 2016 - 18:04

Elijah Lewis

aww, I was hoping the Assange's big October reveal would be something more damaging than more Powell emails

September 15, 2016 - 18:13

Ryder White

That could happen, or the MSM will continue to ride his ass all through his presidency and we'll hear scandal after scandal. Something like the GWB admin but worse. (Consider how Obama has been relatively protected by the same media, even though he's just a slightly tanner Dubya in office.) This will be fertile ground for Idpol to grow.

September 15, 2016 - 18:19

Adam Powell

They all do it. I would actually bet most of those book sales can be tied back to some Clinton org, too. It's a nifty trick with campaign financing and I think the only person to ever get shit for it was Newt Gingrich, but apparently most campaigns have PACs or "unaffiliated" campaign groups buy lots of the books.

September 15, 2016 - 18:22

Ethan Flores

Just because Cole Pow knows about it doesn't mean it's his e-mails. He said a while back he has "more documents on the Hillary Clinton campaign", which would suggest that they're about just that.

September 15, 2016 - 18:30

Josiah Jones

The last time Liberalism died there was a World War. I don't see any legitimate alternatives to it, not a single grand narrative, just lame Nostalgic SocDems and confused Right-Wing Populists. Just because the US can't keep up with the rest of the world doesn't mean we'll stop, I'd buckle up if I were you.
I also predict a greater involvement of Private Enterprise in politics, stuff like Private Charity taking over wellfare and PPPs
webm unrelated.

September 15, 2016 - 18:36

Charles Ramirez

There's more on the way. This isn't even his final form.

September 15, 2016 - 18:37

Justin Hall

There's definitely going to be more leaks after this.
Assange is just waiting. If he dumps it all at once we won't have time to pick the e-mails apart.

September 15, 2016 - 18:40

Cooper Bailey

realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

September 15, 2016 - 18:42

Ryan Howard

That's my fear. I feel like Trump would have to be a huge fuck-up to be a huge disappointment to his supporters, huge on a scale he's unlikely to achieve.

Yes but what will replace it? That's the problem

September 15, 2016 - 18:48

Ryan Martin

oh my god. no it can't be
you have no idea the face of shock that just crossed me, not even horror but shock
it's really happening isn't it. c-can we go back to this being a guaranteed clinton victory in july i don't like this health shit i don't like this poll shit i don't want republican control on all three levels of government i don't want to have to protest trump's every action in puerto rico i just want things to go back to normal can obama get a third term please god i hope hillary drops out otherwise everything's fucked i think i'm having a small meltdown

September 15, 2016 - 18:57

William Morris

She's really milking this for all she can. Just a reminder that she was one of the bigger lying shitstirrers early on during the controversy.

September 15, 2016 - 19:00

Oliver Cruz

Not possible. Consumer debt was the mask that hid the unresolved crisis of stagflation when Reagan took office and it can no longer sustain itself. The next collapse is coming and it's going to be bad.

September 15, 2016 - 19:05

Jace Cooper

You should have been doing it under Democrat leadership already. Now you have even more reason to take action.

September 15, 2016 - 19:08

Nathaniel Murphy

democratic leadership has less incentive to fuck with our shit and try wacky tea party shenanigans, for example the most obama's pulled is trying to stay away from us as much as he can. i did intend to protest anything clinton did but she'd do way less of it than trump. i secretly didn't care who won because i thought trump would help the puerto rican revolutionary movement but now i feel like i bit off more than i can chew.

otoh by rolling five twenties out of one hundred (so 5% were successes) three times in a row on that one dice thread where everyone was trying to kill hillary i may have contributed to our salvation, so we'll see

September 15, 2016 - 19:12

Hunter Perez

So Election Justice USA is planning some nationwide direct actions involving pressuring counties to switch to hand-counted paper ballots on September 22 and especially October 11. They've got another national conference call coming up Sept. 18 at 3pm EST here. I'd encourage user to get involved but I must say I am not pleased that they use Fagbook for just about everything.

September 15, 2016 - 19:12

Lincoln James

What are the chances of Hillary dropping out?

September 15, 2016 - 19:17

Brayden Cooper

wow

Aw shiet, I'm down. Didn't they publish that report saying that without any election irregularities B████ would've won the pledged delegate count?

September 15, 2016 - 19:19

Samuel Nelson

sounds like something I'd like to hear more about but yeah… yikes
not dealing with fb for it. fuck that

September 15, 2016 - 19:21

James Collins

was about to fucking post that, lol.

September 15, 2016 - 19:21

Austin Rivera

I'm conflicted. Every time Trump takes the lead, the alt-right poltards make me wish Clinton wins.
But whenever Clinton is ahead, the smug liberal media whores make me wish Trump would burn the country down already.

September 15, 2016 - 19:24

Grayson Richardson

I think that's where I'm at too.
What I really don't want to happen is for Stein to get framed for this. But she can get framed to all hell if the Greens get 5% because it won't matter after that. Fuck her honestly and I have issues with how the Greens try to be in this weird middle spot between reformism and revolution where they don't have the strategic advantages of reformism or the ideological immaculateness of revolution but them getting 5% would be good.

September 15, 2016 - 19:27

Xavier Perry

Based Shadman

Apparently he doesn't have a smoking gun, but I guess he figured out one of the ways dems are fucking people via NGP-VAN

Evidently "the democrats are both putting you in a database as well as monetizing your info and using it as a barrier to entry to primary challengers who it also lets the establishment spy on." It tags your social media posts and rally attendance, and he's saying that "there's no way to do a targeted purge, but here is the system they could have used to do so"

September 15, 2016 - 19:34

Chase Murphy

this goes past cognitive dissonance to outright denial of reality

September 15, 2016 - 19:34

Luis Carter

The chants outside Hofstra university grew louder. Inside you could barely here it, but it was just what the CPD feared. Grassroots anarcho-capitalists not only had the courage to be in public, but to inflitrate the audience. Gary enters stage right, huffs a joint and blows a torrent of smoke in Hillary's face. The secret service are too stupid to do anything. Jill, enters stage left strumming a guitar singing an old socialist folk song. Her supporters spray paint "L" for "losers" on the podiums. Unable to contain himself, a sweaty CPD official comes out to declare that the % requirements have been lowered to 2%, but before he could utter a sentence, all of the audience turns to the tv cameras with yellow and green shirts shouting let "jill and gary debate!". Everyone, including the CPD and the audience at home is moved to tears as makeshift podiums are set up with the assistance of the media crew and Jill and Gary get a chance to debate.

September 15, 2016 - 19:34

Jordan Allen

pretty sure it was meant to be a joke.

September 15, 2016 - 19:50

Noah Robinson

twitter.com/RAMrants/status/776103202148147200

Whew.

September 15, 2016 - 19:52

Levi Diaz

...

September 15, 2016 - 20:03

Adam Sullivan

Yes, that's them.

September 15, 2016 - 20:13

Wyatt Collins

observer.com/2016/09/exclusive-hillary-clinton-campaign-systematically-overcharging-poorest-donors/

September 15, 2016 - 20:25

Easton Campbell

Hmmmmm, I wouldn't put it past Shillary's team but this is a little suspect. Kushner isn't just Trump's son-in-law, he's supposed to be one of his campaign's top advisers.

September 15, 2016 - 20:57

Connor Edwards

I noticed that, too. Plus, the article is really badly written. Too repetitive. But if it's true, then that's fucked up. I wouldn't put it past her, either.

September 15, 2016 - 21:10

Nolan Perry

nytimes.com/2016/09/16/us/politics/hillary-clinton-presidential-race.html?_r=0
Clinton is trying to get Al Gore to come on the campaign trail and scare people into not voting independent.
You can't make this shit up.

September 15, 2016 - 21:12

Eli Sullivan

Pathetic.

That one word could sum up Hillary's campaign.

September 15, 2016 - 21:14

Brody Diaz

The voter purges in Florida cost Gore the election, not Nader.

September 15, 2016 - 21:31

Isaac Cooper

And his inability to win his home state of Tennessee.
And his reluctance to get Clinton to campaign in Arkansas.
And his refusal to demand a recount which would have revealed he actually did win Florida.

Take some responsibility Al. You've had 16 years to figure out what you did wrong.

September 15, 2016 - 21:34

Samuel Sullivan

nononononononononononononono
It was all Ralph Nader's fault. 100%
This is what happens when you try and vote third party. If you had just picked the nice, safe, democratic candidate everything would have turn out great. Al Gore would have given us peace in the middle east and grown the economy so that all the workers can be equal!
Don't you believe in equality, user? Not like those bad republicans who want to discriminate against their fellow Americans. Vote democrat and I'll break down those barriers so we can all get jobs and grow the economy!

September 15, 2016 - 21:49

Ian Gutierrez

it was only a matter of time

September 16, 2016 - 10:02

Aiden Jackson

Jesus Christ he sounds like a mob enforcer or a rapist

September 16, 2016 - 12:09

Chase Howard

...

September 16, 2016 - 12:18

Gabriel Brown

is there anything more pathetic than network TV channels pretending that they're still relevant?

September 16, 2016 - 12:18

Michael Morales

Hitler was a socialist, though he substituted race for class. If "liberalism" means internationalist capitalism, then it MUST die for the world to progress.

September 16, 2016 - 12:20

Leo Lewis

lol, what? The US is far ahead of the entire world. The EU cannot even be fucked to subsidize it's poorer members (as US states do through income taxes), and the US sports both a nationalized (though underfunded) rail network and a national postal service. Regardless of that, the US is also the only country investing in it's navy, allowing it to retain it's grip on global commerce. America is also the only country with a serious space program.

For all it's problems, America will remain the dominant power because Americans keep paying their taxes.

happened a century ago, I take it you know nothing of Andrew Carnegie

September 16, 2016 - 12:25

Wyatt Robinson

nice meme retard

September 16, 2016 - 12:26

Jonathan Young

Is that why they have to go to Russia to launch anything?

September 16, 2016 - 12:27

Carter Jenkins

Trump is going to be President, this whole election was about burning the Establishment down and Hilary will be fucking stomped in the debates. Just accept it, and plan for the 2018 midterms. To that end, PR ought to be a state because then you'd have a swing vote in most elections and you'd be showered with money.

I did not want it to go down like this, but nobody wants Hilary and the Democrats need to get burned for making such a stupid decision.

September 16, 2016 - 12:30

Justin Martinez

Russia can't do anything better than Soyuz. Same for China.

September 16, 2016 - 12:33

William Brooks

It really, really doesn't work that way.

September 16, 2016 - 12:34

Landon Lee

You can't be serious, can you?

Inevitable Democratic dominance is actually one of the reasons why we really shouldn't become a state.

I'm still holding out hope for my rolls to cash in and Kill The Hill.

September 16, 2016 - 12:41

Elijah Young

How new are you? We've known for at least four months now Trump would be President. That's why most of us shilled for S█████ so hard.

The die has already been cast, the decision made. The Democrats made the decision to loose rather than to win. Even if Hilary somehow wins, Congress will just piss on her (if not outright Impeach her over the leaks) and we'll get four years of insanity until the GOP obtain a Supermajority. At least with Trump the Democrats will be forced to reexamine their priorities and find a new platform.

September 16, 2016 - 12:41

Oliver Murphy

you don't like free money?

September 16, 2016 - 12:42

Cooper Harris

I've been here since this board was made and filled with tankies.

Tricameral Republican control would be bad for everyone no matter how you slice it. Besides the nominee won't necessarily be Hillary.

September 16, 2016 - 12:49

Xavier Green

It wouldn't be a swing state is my point.

September 16, 2016 - 12:49

Ayden Murphy

source? (also: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Funding_programmes_of_the_European_Union)

wow, like any civilized country (minus the healthcare system :^) )

September 16, 2016 - 13:02

Hunter Jones

what is the Greece debt crisis? Such a situation cannot exist in the US.

let me know when SNCF, DBB and Renfe are consolidated as they should be

September 16, 2016 - 13:09

Ryder Sanders

I was kidding about the "new" part,

Would you rather have two years of republican idiocy or 20+? The goal here should be taking back the legislature before the 2020 Census. Think broadly here, beyond the scope of a single election. Hilary as President would destroy the Dem party.

September 16, 2016 - 13:11

Andrew Cruz

JOHNSON AND STEIN ARE OFFICIALLY EXCLUDED FROM THE DEBATES
WHY AREN'T YOU SATISFIED WITH THE CHOICES WE'VE GIVEN YOU WORKER
politico.com/story/2016/09/johnson-stein-fail-first-presidential-debate-228301

September 16, 2016 - 13:12

Luke Rodriguez

We all knew this would happen. The Commission on Presidential Debates is one of the most glaring examples of how much of a farce our Democracy has become.

September 16, 2016 - 13:56

John Clark

Can someone please tell me how the CPD can operate as a 501(c)3 "nonpartisan" organization when they are jointly operated by the DNC/GOP? I know we've got a de facto two party system but I had no idea it has basically been encoded into law.

September 16, 2016 - 14:02

Kevin Moore

I hate living here.

September 16, 2016 - 14:07

William Ross

The literal fucking clone of it just happened with Puerto Rico.

September 16, 2016 - 14:49

Hunter White

newgrounds.com/portal/view/679224

thoughts ?

September 16, 2016 - 15:15

Ian Green

PR isn't a state yet. When they do, the situation for them will be very different.

September 16, 2016 - 15:30

Ryan Edwards

topest of keks

September 16, 2016 - 15:34

James Rivera

How many times do I have to tell you niggests that less than half of the population here thinks statehood is even an option?

September 16, 2016 - 15:44

Adrian Johnson

You've described it perfectly. I think that, strategically, to see the alt-right lose and the mainstream center delegitimize itself with Clinton will, now that the left alternative is well known, push society leftwards.

I'm not american so there's not much I can do, but those of you up there in the US should start networking with people who worked for campaigned for S█████ and start networking and building some organizations, social media presence, and pushing candidates for 2018/20.

September 16, 2016 - 16:17

Michael Ward

There is no fixing the Dem party as long as she is President. Which means at least eight years of successive legislative losses resulting in the GOP Gerrymandering themselves a Supermajority for the rest of our lives.

I'm not a fan of Holla Forums or the "alt-right" but they're easier to deal with than libertarians. More importantly, they make asses of themselves and would ensure that the Democrats can make a comeback after reforming themselves.

September 16, 2016 - 16:25

Julian Jones

There is no fixing the Dem party period.

September 16, 2016 - 16:28

Christopher Jones

I still remember going there for porn before I figured out how to disable safesearch. It's a weird kinda nnostalgia

September 16, 2016 - 16:37

Xavier Parker

I used to find porn using dmoz.org
It was really well organised compared to basically anything else of that era.

September 16, 2016 - 16:42

Nathan Carter

This. Corporate money has become too entrenched to overcome at this point.

September 16, 2016 - 16:54

Tyler Ortiz

That's what I've been doing for the past several months now. I'm real glad the Greens passed that anti-capitalist position so I didn't end up starting a local chapter of some SJW-infested organization like Democratic Socialists of America instead.

September 16, 2016 - 17:02

Michael Cook

m8, amtrak is fucking awful. I live in the Northeast so at least i get coverage. I can't possibly imagine how bad it is for everyone living in central US

September 16, 2016 - 17:02

Brayden Long

newgrounds is still around and is doing better thanks to youtube fucking up

September 16, 2016 - 17:03

Andrew Gonzalez

I'm not ready to cross that bridge yet. Look at how the Tea Party transformed the GOP, it's a very different thing than it was in 2006. I'm giving the Democrats until 2020 to prove themselves.

This isn't an endorsement of the party, because it will take nothing less than the entire politburo being booted to fix the party. But we would have a real chance (and it is just a chance) that it could happen if Hilary looses. Given that the Dem party is all CTR now (following the DNCleak resignations), their only options would be losing again with neoliberalism or reforming themselves and being a true workers' party.

It's their choice, they only have two elections (2018 and 2020) left anyway.

September 16, 2016 - 17:05

John King

It's much better because Congress forced Amtrak to force states to sponsor intra-state services, as a means of saving money for the long-haul trains Republicans support. As a result Amtrak service out of Chicago has become ok, much better than it was twenty years ago.

The west coast is getting fucked but they're also building a whole new system from scratch.

September 16, 2016 - 17:07

Jose Nelson

so Holla Forums should stage a coup on the democrats ?

September 16, 2016 - 17:08

Dylan Foster

imagine the shitshow the first debate will be

September 16, 2016 - 17:08

Dylan Taylor

That's good to hear. How is it in cost? I live in CT, and going from New Haven to Hartford costs me like 40/45 dollars round trip.

September 16, 2016 - 17:16

Colton Martin

Of course. That was the plan all along, was it not?

It worked flawlessly for the GOP in 2009 when they were completely locked out of the federal government. This was when the Tea Party, still fairly new, cut their teeth but "rocking the town halls" and pissing on everyone. They took the House in 2010, gained a few seats in 2012 (and, by causing Romney to loose, ensured that Cruz would be their nominee in 2016), and won the Senate in 2014. Meanwhile they've spread the cancer that is right-to-work laws in every state they managed to commandeer (including Florida, Michegan, Wisconsin and Ohio).

Doing it with the Democrats will be easy enough, especially as the infrastructure/social networks used for S█████ can be repurposed for downballot races. Using the exact same tactics the Tea Party did, we can force the softer Republicans out and force Democrats into compliance.

See "Rocking the Town Halls Best Practices, a political action memo", which for some strange reason no longer exists on the Internet in it's original .pdf form. A copy of the text is here:

beyondchron.org/memo-details-co-ordinated-anti-reform-harrassment-strategy/

September 16, 2016 - 17:18

Jaxon Martinez

I think it will be boring bc Trump only has to play the "hey guys trust me I'm a legitimate candidate" in order to win.

September 16, 2016 - 17:19

Christian Ross

archived here:

pastebin.com/hLQ8Cf8w

September 16, 2016 - 17:19

Dominic Murphy

That's about what things cost here. Only issue is that all the trains run west into Chicago. Semcog will get setup in about a year or two once Semcog finishes the EIS for it (they've already bought rolling stock thinking the EPA would grant them an exemption, but that didn't happen so they're sitting in a warehouse outside of Pontiac).

But I also live in the midwest, people in Ohio get FUCKED because they elected a retard. Same for people in Wisconsin. I'd laugh but it almost happened here too.

September 16, 2016 - 17:24

Camden Richardson

IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

September 16, 2016 - 17:48

Liam Morales

People were pushing for this back at the start of [REDACTED]'s rise in the polls, but he refused to take the pragmatic approach. The Democratic Party is unsalvagable, it can serve only as an attack vector on the two-party system, each seatwarming officeholder and bureaucrat should be ruthlessly targeted for political assassination:
theweek.com/articles/628877/why-bernie-sanders-should-build-tea-party-left

September 16, 2016 - 18:15

Samuel Stewart

I agree with this post.

September 16, 2016 - 19:50

Noah Taylor

reddit.com/r/politics/comments/533ke7/johnson_and_stein_fail_to_make_cut_for_first/

Check out the shill comments. It's really disgusting, if you ask me.

September 16, 2016 - 19:54

Parker Peterson

Ron Paul flopped in 2008, and the GOP were hated by their own over it. Turning the rage onto individual legislators works.

September 16, 2016 - 20:38

Easton Walker

...

September 16, 2016 - 23:17

Thomas Powell

kek

September 17, 2016 - 01:33

Hunter Peterson

They don't realize that people are watching them because of Trump, and if they don't cover him, those viewers will go elsewhere.

September 17, 2016 - 01:37

Oliver Rogers

They're nonpartisan because they work for both of the parties. All two of them.

September 17, 2016 - 01:38

Evan Ward

too accurate to be funny tbh.

September 17, 2016 - 01:41

Easton Hughes

No, they do realize it. They're the ones that legitimized his campaign by giving him unprecedented amounts of free airtime.

September 17, 2016 - 01:46

Juan Ross

Kek

September 17, 2016 - 02:57

John Wilson

wsws.org/en/articles/2016/09/17/usel-s17.html

By Zaida Green
17 September 2016

September 17, 2016 - 04:49

Jayden Perez

...

September 17, 2016 - 04:49

Benjamin Davis

That's awesome.

Stinks of desperation.

September 17, 2016 - 08:05

Nathaniel Robinson

I really hope this is the generation that wakes up, but some reformist will probably come along and pacify us before we hit critical mass of class consciousness.

September 17, 2016 - 08:18

Chase Sanders

inquisitr.com/3517866/floundering-clinton-campaign-set-to-attack-third-parties/

reddit.com/r/Kossacks_for_Sanders/comments/536x6d/floundering_clinton_campaign_set_to_attack_third/

September 17, 2016 - 10:43

Jayden Johnson

...

September 17, 2016 - 11:24

Jaxson Morales

reddit.com/r/politics/comments/536tec/black_dems_rip_trump_as_racial_arsonist_over/

Google: "Hillary Clinton Birther Movement", but make sure you have a trashcan nearby to puke in. Media is in full damage control right now trying to "disprove" the fact that Clinton started the birther movement by releasing that picture of Obama in '08.

September 17, 2016 - 13:44

Joseph Scott

spooky

September 17, 2016 - 13:56

Leo Foster

youtube.com/watch?v=W4ItlWMG3RA
archive.is/QtN4s
motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/09/dont-hate-millennials-save-it-bernie-sanders
Don't Hate Millennials. Save It For B████ ██████.

September 17, 2016 - 15:40

Hudson Taylor

fuck off Holla Forums

September 17, 2016 - 15:45

Nicholas Edwards

see

Really glad I made that image

September 17, 2016 - 16:06

Charles Rodriguez

i regret reading that comment section

September 17, 2016 - 16:34

Matthew White

TheAmazingAtheist: TRUMP 2016!

youtube.com/watch?v=MufUzn_xZH4

September 17, 2016 - 17:16

David Rogers

Yep, that's pretty much Holla Forums's argument, he just didn't mention the incoming crisis and Accelerationism.

September 17, 2016 - 17:58

Isaac Hughes

I thought Mother Jones was a radical leftist publication, from the name.

September 17, 2016 - 18:04

Kayden Davis

welcome to the wonderful world of liberal co-optation

September 17, 2016 - 18:09

Josiah Brown

Of course they're radical leftist! They support feminism and social programs within the US! That's what leftism means now, get out of here with your commie shit.

September 17, 2016 - 18:12

Jaxon Gonzalez

I thought they were pretty radical too before I came to leftypol and found actual revolutionary positions.

Compared to the "left" in the US Mother Jones is practically Marxist

September 17, 2016 - 19:05

Parker Garcia

Christ, this guy can't go to the wall fast enough.

September 17, 2016 - 19:07

Jacob Sanders

Nah, economically they aren't even Barnie Sandals-tier

September 17, 2016 - 19:18

Lucas Rivera

...

September 17, 2016 - 19:22

Nicholas Long

...

September 17, 2016 - 19:29

Parker Hill

Can Hillary or Trump win a re-election? Assuming neither runs against the other in 2020 I just don't see two of the worse candidates in history lasting more than 4 years.

September 17, 2016 - 19:33

Daniel Adams

No. Whoever wins will end up destroying their respective party.

September 17, 2016 - 19:42

Liam Harris

I fucking hope so I'm tired of Republican hegemony. Thankfully I'll be in Puerto Rico in the meantime.

September 17, 2016 - 19:43

Carson Cooper

Is that possible with all the gerrymandering? Remember dubya's Democratic predecessor only got dumped after they redistricted the state.

September 17, 2016 - 19:49

Elijah Thompson

the only outlet I'm seeing that hasn't called the claim ridiculous, untrue, objectively false, etc, is breitbart

everyone else is "YEAH it started with 'someone' from Hillary's organization but Hillary herself didn't have ANYTHING to do with it! ((please believe us ;~;))"

like hillary would let her lackeys do anything which she wasn't personally aware

September 17, 2016 - 20:02

Hunter Morris

In four more years another round of redistricting will begin, and this time it's the democrats' turn, because, I mean, it's only fair after all.

September 17, 2016 - 20:04

Colton James

>theamericanmirror.com/bernie-bust-150-turn-sanders-ohio-stop-hillary/
lol

September 17, 2016 - 20:28

Michael White

shit opinion is shit.

September 17, 2016 - 20:43

Jonathan Cook

Well… I was told to copy and paste the following for anyone interested, so that's what I will do. pls no bully

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We look forward to seeing you on the call Sunday!

September 17, 2016 - 23:15

Levi Richardson

Asshole really wants that $1000.

He should be pushing people, especially young people, to vote third party.

September 18, 2016 - 01:03

Samuel Roberts

Hillary in 2008

>No, no.. As far as I know..

September 18, 2016 - 01:06

Adam Flores

it's over lads, trump won

archive.fo/7en4K

September 18, 2016 - 05:20

John Morris

No. It is. If young voters liked Clinton, THEY WOULD'VE VOTED FOR HER IN 08!

September 18, 2016 - 08:09

Cameron Lopez

I feel bad for Birdie. I'm sure he knows in his heart that selling Hillary is an impossible task.

September 18, 2016 - 08:11

Grayson Brown

Are they seriously describing people who are aged up to their early thirties as "very young."

September 18, 2016 - 08:59

Caleb Lopez

Jill Stein on the Ralph Nader Radio Hour yesterday. Hot stuff, give it a listen!

ralphnaderradiohour.com/jill-stein/

September 18, 2016 - 09:06

James White

welcome to the gerontocracy.

fuckin boomers man.

September 18, 2016 - 09:06

Dominic James

nah, that was a very different Clinton.
youtube.com/watch?v=yev6Hi4LDFY

wasn't Gore ex-GreenParty?
that level of Ideological purity is like not voting S█████ to vote Jill.

September 18, 2016 - 09:11

Christopher Powell

lolno

Gore was another turd way neoliberalism advocate like Clinton.

September 18, 2016 - 09:14

Joshua Torres

wsws.org/en/articles/2016/09/19/pers-s19.html

19 September 2016

September 19, 2016 - 03:44

Evan Perez

Patrick Martin

September 19, 2016 - 03:44

Ryder Lopez

It won't matter if the Democrats do not engage in a serious course correction soon. The Republicans are winning, right now, and will continue to win for at least another decade. This will give them ample time to simply change the law how they see fit and make their power permanent.

Though, Texas could only flip blue if Dallas, Houston and Austin keep getting expats from other cities. But I'm doubtful this will continue to happen, the immense growth of the 90s and 00s is coming to an end.

September 19, 2016 - 05:50

Brayden Davis

lol, nothing, NOTHING, about redistricting is "fair". And in 2020, Texas will remain a GOP majority state across all three branches of it's government. The GOP will cement themselves into place for at least a decade after that.

September 19, 2016 - 05:52

Blake Stewart

I know. I was being ironic.

September 19, 2016 - 06:11

Blake Garcia

What's the matter with the Baltic states?

September 19, 2016 - 07:26

Liam Jones

BREAKING NEWS
Hillary's IT guy was a redditor and his post history proves that she ordered him to remove emails

archive.is/FXcao

Archive because his entire post history just got scrubbed. Apparently he used the same screen name and email to sign up for a bdsm fanfic site where he gave the main character his name, lol

reddit.com/r/politics/comments/53hdaq/reddit_posts_by_hillarys_it_guy_proves_she/

HILLARY IS FINISHED

September 19, 2016 - 07:33

Samuel Ward

web.archive.org/web/20010422223259/http://exiles.darkseduction.net/paul.html

lol holy shit

September 19, 2016 - 07:38

Aaron James

iirc the Obama administration promised them complete support if their territorial integrity is threatened by Russia.

This right here is why the establishment is so opposed to "doxing."

September 19, 2016 - 07:41

Tyler Allen

Page 1: archive.is/WJtMh
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His post history ffr

September 19, 2016 - 08:05

Isaac Rogers

They'll have to if they want to survive. Neoliberalism will be dead regardless if Hillary wins or not. S█████ is the future of the party.

They can either accept that or die.

September 19, 2016 - 09:01

James Taylor

Ah hahaha

reddit mod drones scattering to protect the Queen, too.

September 19, 2016 - 09:12

Robert Price

well, the post itself is:

Which was around the same time that the investigation was going on.

So it's not quite a smoking gun but it's severely incriminating (as if the FBI cares).

September 19, 2016 - 09:16

Landon Baker

While it's good that they collected that information, the smugness of those redditkiddies sicken me

September 19, 2016 - 09:18

Ryan Walker

A true God among men.

September 19, 2016 - 09:35

Lincoln Reyes

...

September 19, 2016 - 09:35

David Walker

Quick, get that man a fedora

September 19, 2016 - 09:39

Ian Howard

I mean, it's one thing if someone breaks into your house, it's another if you just hand them the fucking key.

September 19, 2016 - 09:40

Adam Jones

thepoliticalinsider.com/hillary-email-it-guy-caught-asked-destroy-evidence/

>Under a posting on Holla Forums[8ch.net/pol/res/7541894.html] titled “Here is clear proof that Hillary sought to destroy evidence,” Combetta can be seen posting under a username he uses multiple times across multiple platforms, ‘stonetear.’

September 19, 2016 - 11:15

Cooper Gomez

...

September 19, 2016 - 11:21

Nathan Williams

Shit like this is why I want Hillary to win

September 19, 2016 - 11:22

Carter Bell

...

September 19, 2016 - 11:26

Adrian Cox

Well, I'd prefer Jill Stein actually, or another third-party candidate. But against Trump? I'd pick Clinton, mainly for "accelerationism."

I mean let's be honest here, as insufferable as Clinton supporters are, they still have some strenuous ties to reality, which they'd have to come to terms with when faced with 4 years of Clinton.

But when it comes to Trump, those people that don't already hate him think he's the next best thing to the Second Coming. To shake their faith in Trump he'd have to be a catastrophic failure, which I don't doubt he'd manage to be, but it would also have to fall squarely on his shoulders and his shoulders alone, which quick frankly I don't think he'd ever allow to happen. From what I know of Trump's management strategies he doesn't actually DO anything, he just delegates it to someone else. So Trump will just find some fall guys to put in charge of his stupid ideas like The Wall and if they manage to pull it off he'll take credit, but if they fuck up he'll just hold a press conference, shout "You're fired" and claim he'll get someone else to do it, and all his supporters will continue to fondle his balls and stroke his shaft.

September 19, 2016 - 11:37

Ryder Anderson

uh, no. they're more deluded than trumpenproles. Trumpenproles KNOW that something is wrong, but they don't understand why. Clintoncucks don't even admit that something is wrong, they want you to believe everything is fine when Dems are in charge.

September 19, 2016 - 12:01

Levi Mitchell

They finally got one thread to stick. And one of the top mods had to sticky a comment addressing the "meta debate" about the threads being deleted & scrubbed. Now it's the top thread of r/politics.

reddit.com/r/politics/comments/53j0bj/computer_tech_who_asked_how_to_strip_out_email/

September 19, 2016 - 14:24

Austin Powell

He can't. He banked on the Wall for his political campaign and he is universally despised by MSM. Delegating the role to someone else doesn't matter to journalists, they'll splash "TRUMP'S WALL A MASSIVE FAILURE" all over the headlines no matter how many people are between Trump and it. Remember Gerald Ford's presidency? It'll be a little like that.

September 19, 2016 - 14:30

Nicholas Carter

Do you think that matters one bit? Trump supporters don't give a single shit what mainstream journalism says. Maybe if Breitbart or talk radio turns on him we'll see something, but all the pissing and moaning of mainstream journalists would only fuel Trump's support, not weaken it.

They know things are bad, and I suppose they know something's wrong, but what they think is wrong is that there are too many Latinos/Muslims/liberals/🍀🍀🍀globalists🍀🍀🍀 not that there's something wrong with the structure of society itself. I mean, name one Trump policy that has actually threatened the power of the ruling class. The only reason they'd decide to go over to someone like B████ would be if there was significant, obvious evidence that he pissed off powerful people, which it's quite obvious they'd never give him that kind of coverage. The only reason Trump is able to get all the negative publicity he does is because he's such a non-threat. Maybe, MAYBE if a S█████-type politician came close to the Presidency you might see a Trump-style freak-out, but we'd have to get to that point first, which I would imagine is the whole idea behind wanting Trump to be elected in the first place though, no?

September 19, 2016 - 14:42

Liam Gonzalez

They did freak-out about S█████, but they chose to use the Trump circus to distract people from B████'s message.

September 19, 2016 - 15:01

Joseph Gomez

reddit/Hillary's IT guy deleting his incriminating posts in real time.

youtube.com/watch?v=psiSPhHJgUk

September 19, 2016 - 15:01

Luis Gomez

Not if the wall truly does turn out to be a massive failure and Trump can't get the beaners out. :^)

Also, you'd be surprised at how quickly right wing news can turn against their golden boy once they start bungling it. They're like every other news source: they want views and clickbait.

September 19, 2016 - 15:03

Easton Reyes

/u/RedProletariat, if you're here you're doing a heck of a job

September 19, 2016 - 15:03

Jayden Peterson

If leddit were a physical forum, would the mods have all been strung up and flensed alive in an orgy of rage by now, or are ledditors too cucked by the prospect of losing their precious upboat history?

"Brigading", "doxing", "shadowbans", I just can't believe the level of insanity necessary to invent such bizarre ideas.

September 19, 2016 - 15:12

Aaron Walker

Reddit is nothing more than a censorship hive. It always has been. The Redditors who cared moved on to Voat which will turn into a censorship hive shortly if it hasn't already.

September 19, 2016 - 15:18

Aiden Nguyen

Stopping mass immigration, stopping free trade, stopping military adventurism, stopping brinksmanship with Russia, massive infrastructure spending, stopping the futile war on Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid, stopping the use of PC in the media as a smokescreen tactic, etc, etc… Like all of Trump's "policies", however, their sincerity (except the PC one, which he has been able to "implement" splendidly without even being elected) exists in a quantum superposition of PR circus smoke & mirrors with every other self-contradictory statement Trump has issued.

Any one of those would make porky shit gold bricks if they happened, the question is if they'll also piss off Trump's supporters if they DON'T happen.

Even judging from Obama's track record doesn't give a clear answer: On the one hand his massive failure to live up to his promises, and mindboggling betrayals in areas beyond that, have cost him a lot of support, but not enough to firmly divorce the Democratic Party from his clique. On the other hand, Trump's supporters are much angrier, to start with and in general, than Obama's ever were.

September 19, 2016 - 15:24

Josiah Jenkins

It quickly became just a censorship hive for Holla Forums

September 19, 2016 - 15:24

Nicholas Robinson

youtube.com/watch?v=JajNRH6zQa4

Hahaha

September 19, 2016 - 15:29

Justin Hill

...

September 19, 2016 - 15:32

Aaron Wright

kek

September 19, 2016 - 15:56

Brayden Morgan

Wasn't there an interregnum between the Digg exodus and the Fempire's dominance where it wasn't so hilariously rulecucked?

>ONE SIDE of this country's political establishment is dragging a line through the septic tank of politics
This banging of their infantile little fists on his chest is so ineffective, they HAVE to know this will never, ever, ever work. They have to stop doing this sometime, and resort to concrete policy debate, right?

September 19, 2016 - 15:57

Cooper Nguyen

Why would they?

You still refuse to see the bigger picture, don't you?

September 19, 2016 - 16:05

Tyler Edwards

Don't brush every Trump voter with that stroke.

September 19, 2016 - 16:21

Landon Long

Find me a trump voter that isn't spooked in one way or another and I'll find you someone that's being paid.

September 19, 2016 - 16:23

Ian Reed

It's "every anti-immigration advocate is racist"/"every anti-free-trade advocate is isolationist"-tier dishonest. Further, it's not even close to true, I very much doubt even a significant fraction of supporters have such motives as a concern, let alone a primary one.

Sure, I mean, obviously challenging the substantial run-of-the-mill Republican sludge Trump pushes would be contrary to their bipartisan corporate masters, but surely people like Maddow and Oliver wouldn't have any qualms about that? Even stranger, just pointing out how flipfloppy the wording and consistency of every populist policy statement that he's made wouldn't be objectionable to the lizardfolk in the studio?

September 19, 2016 - 16:27

John Rogers

that is autism

Liberals continue to be horrid at understanding internet maymays and the autism of the alt-right.

September 19, 2016 - 16:31

Benjamin Morgan

There is quite a few that are just voting for Trump because in there eyes, he is just something different from your average politician or believes that he will able to and going to bring jobs back.

Its just that these type of voters are less vocal than the louder ones.

Like most people who are voting?

September 19, 2016 - 16:32

Owen Martin

They've already had 8 years of Obama and they still didn't get the picture.

September 19, 2016 - 16:51

Jeremiah Lopez

House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server
thehill.com/policy/national-security/296680-house-panel-probes-web-rumor-on-clinton-emails

September 19, 2016 - 17:02

Lucas Sanchez

...

September 19, 2016 - 17:29

Isaac Stewart

archive.is/4cK9m

oy vey we showed our hand too soon and the white filth woke up :🍀🍀🍀((

September 19, 2016 - 17:58

Parker Jones

Yes, I know it's real, just like most of the game.

September 19, 2016 - 18:20

Ian Stewart

in case you haven't seen it yet

September 19, 2016 - 18:45

Dominic Jones

I am not optimistic.

September 19, 2016 - 19:00

Luis Martinez

good fucking god that comment section make head hurt

September 19, 2016 - 19:09

Hunter Harris

wew lad

September 19, 2016 - 22:20

Jack James

We didn't have a smoking gun before. This strongly, strongly, strongly suggests that Clinton personally asked Paul to redact her e-mails. There's no "I can't remember" or "I didn't know" about this unless she manages to convince the world she didn't tell him to redact her e-mails to defend her (not in a billion)

September 19, 2016 - 22:20

Aiden Walker

On one hand-
On the other hand, these people have been right in the past.

If he gets felonies, so will Hillary more likely than not.

September 19, 2016 - 22:22

Alexander Green

The sword will fall squarely on the IT guy and Hillary will get off…again.

I can't see it going any other way.

September 20, 2016 - 00:44

Isaiah Sanchez

come on wikileaks

September 20, 2016 - 01:31

Angel Hughes

Maybe not Hillary herself, but I find it hard to believe that this guy won't go down without naming names. I think the natural line of questioning is "Did you do this on your own authority?" Yes or No. If "yes," he's fucked. Enjoy prison, buddy. If "no," then the next question is "Who ordered you to remove the email headers?"

And judging from his question, considering he didn't even seem to know if the job was possible, I don't think it's likely you can just frame him as a lone gunman acting on his own, but that's just me.

September 20, 2016 - 01:34

Brandon Davis

Who is this clown? When I google him all I see is gamergate and date rape apologies.

September 20, 2016 - 01:43

James Green

He could plead the fifth on either of those like he's been doing, but that would still likely lead to Hillary getting in hot water.

September 20, 2016 - 01:43

Caleb Adams

Pleading the fif/"i can't recall" is unlikely to help much at this point.

September 20, 2016 - 02:00

Angel Cooper

wsws.org/en/articles/2016/09/20/clin-s20.html

By E.P. Bannon
20 September 2016

September 20, 2016 - 02:03

James Nguyen

...

September 20, 2016 - 02:04

David Clark

...

September 20, 2016 - 02:18

Jack Morales

No, I'm not disputing that Paul obviously at one point intended to edit the e-mails. But they need to verify a) that he actually did edit/delete them and b) why he did so before Hillary can be indicted/convicted (actually this may be grounds for indicting her already). The Clintons have had a lot of fall guys but somehow I get the feeling that "I'll pardon you and when you get out of jail you can be an ambassador" isn't going to be enough to convince him to take a felony- if he actually goes through with it then he's a Grade A cuck.

Basically, Clinton got off on "I can't remember" and "that was not my intention" last time. But this time the intention is clear.

Also, I'm 99% certain that Paul going maverick will never even come up because Hillary defended deleting her e-mails several times. The implication would have to be that Paul deleted incriminating e-mails because he thought deleting yoga wasn't going far enough, which would be absurd. And he can't just say "well I didn't KNOW the e-mails I was deleting were evidence!" because then the implication is that he just went in and started deleting random e-mails without even reading them.

September 20, 2016 - 02:58

Easton Fisher

Too little, too late, Paul.

September 20, 2016 - 07:39

Jayden Baker

All Congress has to do is find one little lie. Even if the IT guy agrees to take the fall for her, Congress just needs more detail. What did Hilary know and when did she know it? It's coming together and the question is when.

Even if Hilary does win, which I doubt, Congress has more than enough meat to completely destroy her Presidency. Day one sworn testimonies in front of the House. She'd be totally incapable of actually running the government. Her husband was impeached (not convicted) for much less, and in this circumstance she'd likely face a conviction as the GOP will keep the Senate if not obtain a 2/3rds Supermajority there.

The question is when her house falls down.

September 20, 2016 - 10:21

Robert Baker

This.

They may even have her out before the first debate. Don't count on it, it's just another possibility.

September 20, 2016 - 11:56

Jace Murphy

Guys, I have found the Holla Forums platform for the incoming elections:
marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1934/08/ame.htm

September 20, 2016 - 12:42

Jonathan Lopez

archive.is/dVG11
Why haven't the lmaos come and nuked us yet?
I'm starting to lose hope.

September 20, 2016 - 12:44

Thomas Davis

Every time I look at the guardian I want to vomit

September 20, 2016 - 12:55

Xavier Nguyen

...

September 20, 2016 - 12:56

Landon Sanders

Is that glamour shot of the article's author? No wonder no one takes these guys seriously anymore.

September 20, 2016 - 12:56

Dominic Barnes

...

September 20, 2016 - 13:01

Gabriel Bennett

oh, leon

September 20, 2016 - 13:17

John Butler

thecitizensaudit.com/2016/09/19/money-laundering-david-brock/

September 20, 2016 - 13:41

Carson Evans

ayyy lmao

September 20, 2016 - 13:52

Oliver Edwards

What does this have to do with anything? Did he just decide to be autistically random?

September 20, 2016 - 17:20

Sebastian Wright

Back then they called them "jokes."

Chewing gum was seen as a nasty habit fit for hooligans, urchins, ne'er-do-wells, and Irishmen, you know, like pinball machines and comic books and liquor.

September 20, 2016 - 17:43

Gabriel Robinson

All well known tools of Lucifer.

September 20, 2016 - 17:45

Angel Wood

I guess it goes back even further than that
smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/a-brief-history-of-chewing-gum-61020195/?no-ist

"All the women who unmarried chew chicle in public. One's wife also chews chicle, but not in public…with it they dispel the bad odor of their mouths, or the bad smell of their teeth. Thus they chew chicle in order not to be detested."

Chewing gum is degenerate!

If only we could go back in time and warn them. Things didn't have to be this way.

September 20, 2016 - 17:48

Jordan Robinson

That damn lucifer, sure is one crafty motherfucker. Behind all fun stuff, and also behind all moralism, and behind capitalism, and communism, and all conformity to an evil all seeing and controlling state as well as being behind all rebellion.

Jesus the dude just never gets a break.

September 20, 2016 - 17:56

Jose Campbell

bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37416721
GEORGE H W BUSH IS VOTING FOR SHILLARY CLINTON
but she's totally not a neocon though because muh barriers.

September 20, 2016 - 18:22

Cameron Wilson

leddit shill comments were interesting on this

reddit.com/r/politics/comments/53lhrx/george_hw_bush_to_vote_for_hillary/

September 20, 2016 - 18:32

Dominic Robinson

...

September 20, 2016 - 19:13

Daniel Brown

You're preaching to the choir m8

Or is this another "The bourgeoisie love Hillary more than Trump so vote Trump!" argument

September 20, 2016 - 19:49

Jeremiah Bennett

I posted since It's newsworthy because it completely shatters the democrap narrative that Clinton would be progressive.
It also basically confirms that the democrats have outright abandoned any notion of principle. They're the anti-trump party and if Shillary wins in November the dems will lose their boogeyman.

September 20, 2016 - 20:33

Hunter Howard

...

September 20, 2016 - 20:49

Xavier Morris

Is that one of those pig-feed cans?

September 20, 2016 - 21:52

Jason Hall

Gosh, another money laundering scheme connected with the Clintons

I'm sure this will be pursued with rigor

September 21, 2016 - 01:37

Xavier Brooks

reddit.com/r/politics/comments/53si3z/harvard_study_policy_issues_nearly_absent_in/d7vup4e

How can you disagree?

September 21, 2016 - 05:08

Adam Sanchez

B O U R G E O I S I E
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September 21, 2016 - 05:20

Jose Adams

So she still believes black teens are "superpredators" that we "have to bring [them] to heel?"

September 21, 2016 - 12:09

Mason Campbell

Ror neither Hillary nor Bill have ever had policy

September 21, 2016 - 12:18

Wyatt Richardson

Him and Tony Blair were the subject in one installment of an Adam Curtis documentary (The Century of the Self) about abusing focus groups to produce pseudopopulist centrism.

September 21, 2016 - 14:20

Colton White

How is "pseudopopulist" different from populist?

September 21, 2016 - 14:39

Jaxson Hughes

Actual populism is picking the most popular policy, "radical centrist" politics of the sort I referred to involves picking a compromise policy that simultaneously angers many and pleases nobody.

September 21, 2016 - 14:59

Jacob Jones

wsws.org/en/articles/2016/09/22/clin-s22.html

By Josh Varlin
22 September 2016

September 22, 2016 - 02:06

Hudson Roberts

...

September 22, 2016 - 02:07

Isaac Nelson

:DDDDD

September 22, 2016 - 03:10

Justin Wilson

Things seem awfully quiet with her lately..

Also, this

fortune.com/2016/09/21/hillary-clinton-emails-reddit/

Also, I like the new captcha setup.

September 22, 2016 - 05:41

Easton Lopez

Apparently a report just came out regarding the CFAI distributing adulterated aids meds

September 22, 2016 - 05:57

Samuel Howard

dailycaller.com/2016/09/19/exclusive-clinton-foundation-aids-program-distributed-watered-down-drugs-to-third-world-countries/

economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/healthcare/biotech/pharmaceuticals/ranbaxy-dragged-into-gops-fight-with-hillary-clinton/articleshow/54454204.cms

I'll be sure to stay away from "Ranbaxy". There's a real problem here with counterfeit medications. I haven't had an issue, yet, but I hear about it a lot. India's huge in pharmaceuticals, and it's where a lot of US drug companies get their ingredients(opiates is a big source here).

Looks like in that Economic Times article they really downplay the relationship CHAI(ClintonHealth Access Initiative) had with Ranbaxy. The article is a bit confusing, probably on purpose.

CHAI worked with Ranbaxy from 2003-2013.

In 2008 there was an import alert & it resulted in a huge lawsuit between the US & Ranbaxy.

>After the FDA's 2008 import alert, CHAI stopped sourcing drugs from Ranbaxy with the exception of two small batch medications, of which Ranbaxy was the sole supplier

So given the dates, there's some definite overlap there. They continued to source from Ranbaxy even after these alerts for adulteration in meds.

Too bad it's poor black people getting screwed over, or else many more people would care. There would be more than the Economic Times & Daily Caller covering it, too.

September 22, 2016 - 06:42

Hudson Clark

At this point, would anything short of genocide get Clinton indicted?

September 22, 2016 - 08:24

William Barnes

it just goes to show what an blowout this election will be. Hilary is popular amongst bankers, A-list actors, and neocons but she does not have the pull with middle America. She has no swing vote, and this will cost her most swing states. The gig is up.

September 22, 2016 - 10:15

Luke Taylor

In seriousness, it all depends on what Congress can figure out. Given Combretta being held in contempt of court today (for not showing up), he's going to jail on that charge. Congress has already netted Hilary's top aide. At this point I'm convinced Assange's October Surprise will completely nuke her, and either cause the FBI to indict or cause Congress to go right to the top (Obama) with sworn testimonies. Even if Hilary does somehow survive and win, she's facing a day one crises as Congress will eventually find enough dirt on her for Impeachment if not outright Conviction.

September 22, 2016 - 10:18

Leo Cooper

Combetta just got declared in contempt of congress, and I think he also just ignored another subpoena for today.

So either he knows there is nothing to worry about from congress or he's more afraid of Hillary

September 22, 2016 - 10:47

David Young

youtube.com/watch?v=_T8tMk-ZOx8

wew lads

September 22, 2016 - 12:01

Nathaniel Morris

youtube.com/watch?v=IOvAwljTnvs
CLINTON'S MAIN STRATEGY IN THE DEBATES IS TO JUST LET TRUMP TALK
She is so deluded it almost makes me feel sorry for her.
almost.

September 22, 2016 - 12:55

Luke Cruz

Gary Johnson:

m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=971260562995879&id=259423757512900

September 22, 2016 - 13:28

Connor Mitchell

I really can't imagine a worse strategy.

Yeah, that's worked out real well for you so far!

September 22, 2016 - 15:12

Landon Lopez

youtube.com/watch?v=SgPWwxfe8ns

Clinton Campaign Launches 'Mormons For Hillary'

Lmao

And she's hemorrhaging millennial support, too.

September 23, 2016 - 01:55

Owen Green

...

September 23, 2016 - 06:22

James Hall

She doesn't really have a choice. Every time she opens her mouth, she goes down in the polls.

September 23, 2016 - 06:25

Cooper Phillips

Holy shit, this interview was brutal. He completely destroyed Hillary and didn't do ANYTHING to make her look good, charismatic, or funny. I think he genuinely hates her.
youtu.be/xrkPe-9rM1Q

Compare this to his video with Obama, it's night and day.

September 23, 2016 - 06:34

Jason Rogers

Non-american here, is there a good reason for me to care about this Dakota pipeline shit?

Because I just read this

and if this is all about the pipeline going through muh people's sacred territory I couldn't care less

(I know this isn't properly elections-related but I don't think the question is worthy of its own thread)

September 23, 2016 - 06:58

Chase Anderson

i'm sure wikipedia has a list of pipeline leaks and pictures of animals affected by them.
also some people believe that global warming somehow has a global effect and therefore petrol corporations should be opposed globally.

there should still be a pipeline thread around if the shills didn't push it off the board.

September 23, 2016 - 07:08

Charles Morales

turns out it isn't so easy to find a complete list.
this is for the US since 1890:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pipeline_accidents_in_the_United_States_before_1900
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pipeline_accidents_in_the_United_States_(1900–49)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pipeline_accidents_in_the_United_States_(1950–74)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pipeline_accidents_in_the_United_States_(1975–99)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pipeline_accidents_in_the_United_States_in_the_21st_century

September 23, 2016 - 07:15

Cooper Sullivan

Where are you from? Indigenous people all over the Americas have been shat on for centuries. They're one of the most vulnerable minorities in North America.

After generations of broken treaties and ethnic/cultural genocide, they don't want multi-national oil companies plowing through what tiny amount of land they have left to subsist on. Why don't you care?

September 23, 2016 - 07:44

Colton Jones

kek

September 23, 2016 - 08:00

Christian Collins

Honestly there isn't. Just wagon burners being pissy again. Remember that most don't do nothing except be drunk all day. All of them are like this, they're a dead society that will likely not exist in a century or two. As much as I do not like oil companies, they're in the right here.

Exception is with the Navajo as they sit on a huge coal deposit, which they use to power America's largest coal station (which supplies California with 15% of it's energy). But their drug problem is very notorious as well. They are also where half of the illegal full-auto guns in the southwest come from (indian reservations are exempt from the all US gun laws).

September 23, 2016 - 09:47

Kevin Anderson

That's because of themselves. Most of the parents abuse drugs and their children sexually like their counterparts do in mexico. The government provides free everything to them (guns for police, medicine for clinics, books for schools, free trailer homes and free food) but most of it is wasted on booze.

This is the long term effect of NOT committing to forced re-education (ie the indian schools) which for the most part worked in assimilating their students into modern society. This is even more obvious if you were to compare halfbreeds that grow up in normal homes and Mormon converts to those who grow up on reservations. They have "independence", but are not self-sufficient.

These people are not capable of subsisting on their own. They rely completely on welfare checks to exist. The few with casinos rely on foreign money. Again, the exception is the Navajo because they earn their money from Socal Edison.

On a side note this is also why states with heavy injun populations, ie Oklahoma and Alaska, have dry counties where even alcohol possession is illegal.

September 23, 2016 - 09:54

Leo Flores

>>>Holla Forums

September 23, 2016 - 10:00

Hudson Kelly

No doubt there are a lot of issues in Native American communities but does that mean we should continue to plow through their land when they don't want us to? Am I still in leftypol?

This sounds a lot like the "but what about black on black crime" argument.

September 23, 2016 - 10:01

Jordan Reyes

wow uh yeah okay can you fuck off
to me it's incredibly obvious you don't actually know anything about native americans, i fucking lived in injun country for 7 years.
maybe you'd drink a shit ton of alcohol if you were in their situation too, yeah?

September 23, 2016 - 10:10

Ethan Phillips

in case you didn't notice,

and
is the same person and he is getting paid to post this bs here. i think people who do this for money are worse than ideological nazis.
can't wait till someone liberates a list of names of people working at one of those online reputation management corporations.

September 23, 2016 - 10:57

Alexander Evans

Not even Holla Forums, I'm a full blown commie and I'm registered green. As much as I hate private property, injuns are culturally backwards and cannot accomplish anything on their own. Except the ones that sell power to LA, who are engaging in functional communism right now.

You got a better idea? If the pipeline is built it can be expropriated by the state for the common good. And, as it'll be a common carrier, the injuns themselves can use it for their own gain. Same is true for another thing injuns bitch about: power lines.

September 23, 2016 - 11:32

Samuel Thompson

You're a PR, not an injun. I'm talking about inland reservations here whose residents get everything from the feds for free yet all they do is drink.

September 23, 2016 - 11:36

Kayden Wright

I have a theory he walks around with an assplug, it's the only thing that can explain the faces he constantly makes.

I'm sick of Chump beating his chest too, user.

t. chode monkey

September 23, 2016 - 11:37

Wyatt Butler

Yeah, leave the oil in the ground. Surely a member of the Green party would agree with that?

You sound like some of the people I grew up around. I grew up around a lot of large reservations in Northwest Washington and I hear the 'indians are lazy welfare leeching drunks' drivel all the time.

Are there problems with alcoholism and drug abuse in their communities? Definitely yes. But it's not unique to natives, it's the same thing you see in every poor community. Is this really enough of a reason for you to believe they don't deserve sovereignty?

September 23, 2016 - 12:09

Jaxson Butler

...

September 23, 2016 - 12:16

Colton Smith

thefuck, if you are trying to imply that something negative can come from voting then i would like to hear your explanation.
or are you one of those shills who are the reason why only old and rich folks vote?

September 23, 2016 - 12:41

Liam Bennett

>>>/wew/
>>>/out/
>>>Holla Forums

September 23, 2016 - 12:41

Tyler Evans

...

September 23, 2016 - 12:42

Charles Ortiz

I can understand being apathetic about the presidential election but do you also feel that way about local elections?

September 23, 2016 - 12:49

Mason Davis

or we could use it for the common good

Their problem is much worse, because their bodies aren't accustomed to it. And not they should not be "sovereign", all forms of private property are bad and everything should be owned by the collective. One system is more efficient than many systems.

September 23, 2016 - 13:02

Christian Turner

I want to fucking die

September 23, 2016 - 13:49

Austin Brooks

Let me share with you a real slogan from the presidential nominating convention from a longtime Green: "Keep the gas in the grass. Keep the oil in the soil. Keep the coal down low."

I don't think that poster is an actual Green.

September 23, 2016 - 13:55

Adam Turner

Has anyone ever undertaken any actual scientific studies testing the common mythology that alcohol somehow affects native Americans more strongly than other ethnicities?

September 23, 2016 - 13:57

Grayson Parker

dionysus.fiu.edu/pdfs/tamara l wall.pdf

September 23, 2016 - 14:00

James Ward

I've heard the same thing about orientals being lightweights, even compared to the same, er, bodyweight.

September 23, 2016 - 14:01

Zachary Hall

Is it starting to dawn on anyone else just how unbelievably fucked we all are?

The existential dread is really starting to set in for me.

September 23, 2016 - 14:42

Aiden Scott

Zach is a fan of Chomsky and Zinn, so I assume he dislikes Hillary.

September 23, 2016 - 14:44

James Stewart

Mein gott, I mean, I'm a Marxist, and so on.

September 23, 2016 - 14:44

Aiden Jackson

What I'm getting from this study is that the exceptionally high prevalence of alcohol dependency among natives enabled the researchers to get a large sample size allowing them to detect a correlation between a rare alcohol dehydrogenase allele in that population and resistance to alcohol dependency. And I guess confirmation that variable resistance to alcohol dependency exists and is heritable.

Nothing indicating outright that native ethnicities have a higher prevalence of an allele that predisposes them to alcohol dependency, however.

September 23, 2016 - 14:53

Bentley Phillips

Was good read though user, thanks for the link.

September 23, 2016 - 14:54

Luke Morales

Yes! You can get hired as a professional shitposter.

Skill set needed.

As crazy as the 2016 election has been so far if makes me wonder what 2020 is going to be like.

September 23, 2016 - 15:02

Charles Reyes

From my ching chong friends the explanation I've been given is that asians don't have the ability to digest certain alcohols just like some can't handle dairy products. Some claim to get bad headaches or nausea when drinking and shit like that.

I don't know if it's true or not, but they seem to believe it.

I expect shit to start popping off around then. Economic failure, mass unemployment, American political dysfunction–to say nothing of the looming possibility of war.

I can't help imagining it being a pretty violent election, especially with how tense things got between the demos and B████crats.

September 23, 2016 - 15:30

Jason Jackson

By the time we'll get to 2020, everyone will have had enough of this bullshit.

September 23, 2016 - 15:56

Ayden Clark

What? It wasn't brutal at all, it was essentially a promo for Hillary. This kind of non-parodies of political figures are not critiques but a post-ironical glorification. And politicians themselves know it very well, that's why they appear in it and chuckle at it, it's meant to make them look like they can take a joke, etc… This is nothing new.

September 23, 2016 - 15:58

Levi Bennett

FBI releases interviews with Clinton aides
thehill.com/policy/national-security/297561-fbi-releases-interviews-with-clinton-aides

The FBI on Friday afternoon released almost 200 pages of summaries of interviews done during its investigation into Hillary Clinton’s private email server, including those with top aides Huma Abedin, Cheryl Mills and Jake Sullivan.

The interview for Justin Cooper, a former senior adviser to President Bill Clinton, is also included. Cooper registered the original clintonemail.com domain.

In many of the documents, the name of the interviewee has been redacted. Several of the interviews with blocked-out names were with technicians at the Colorado-based firm that managed Clinton’s server.

The documents contain several previously unknown details.

According to the notes, the engineer who deleted an archive of Clinton’s old emails using a software known as BleachBit told investigators that he did so “of his own accord based on his normal practices as an engineer.”

BleachBit is designed to prevent recovery of deleted items.

The deletion of the archive occurred after the Benghazi Committee had issued a subpoena for documents related to the 2012 attack on the Libyan outpost. The deleted files have drawn fire from Republicans who suspect Clinton may have had a role in the destruction of the documents.

September 23, 2016 - 17:31

Kevin Williams

the documents in question
vault.fbi.gov/hillary-r.-clinton/

September 23, 2016 - 17:45

Jack Williams

I'm looking through the third document now and there are whole paragraphs and all the names missing. But only a couple pages in and there are already "[_] was shown a copy of email chain from 2011 with the subject [______] and believed that the contents of the email could be treated as unclassified because article/news story was about to be released."

So classified information was definitely sent and received, which we already knew, but judging from the other entries not only was this classified info sent, but that it was sent to an individual that had no authorization or training in how to handle it.

September 23, 2016 - 18:00

James Rodriguez

thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/297570-obama-used-pseudonym-in-emails-with-clinton

wew

September 23, 2016 - 18:23

Jose Green

I only vote green not for green policies, but because it's more socialist. Kind of bullshit but I make with what I got

September 23, 2016 - 20:49

Leo Perry

facebook.com/godlessengineering/videos/971260562995879/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED

This guy is a fucking dumbass, holy shit. His entire "hey, I'm just saying" body language reminds me of a sixth grader who has just interrupted class to say something edgy about religion or weed.

September 23, 2016 - 22:52

John Jenkins

oh buddy I wish I had your outlook in life

September 23, 2016 - 22:53

Connor Allen

After seeing that video where his tongue is out I'm certain he must be 420blazingit 24/7

September 23, 2016 - 23:09

Ian Murphy

lol hes a fucking mess

September 23, 2016 - 23:12

Levi James

Oh my God I was completely unaware of this

Even BEFORE the tongue thing he's weird on that video, because his body language and expression make it look like he's a guy with no game trying to bang the interviewer.

September 23, 2016 - 23:38

Isaiah Long

FUCKING DEMOCRAT SHILLS REEEEEEEEEEEEEe

September 24, 2016 - 01:21

Gavin Stewart

666 for Trump-Hillary murder-suicide

September 24, 2016 - 01:23

Dominic Lewis

Can't wait for the 26th

September 24, 2016 - 01:28

Austin Walker

Is that the debate? I don't even want to watch tbh. I gave up even on watching the B████-Hillary debates toward the end.

September 24, 2016 - 01:35

Angel Harris

Lmao, that's awesome

September 24, 2016 - 01:54

Zachary Sanders

That would help make America great again

September 24, 2016 - 01:55

David Walker

Write a letter to the editor of your local paper expressing your anger over the "fraud on the American voter" that is the two-party duopoly presidential debates, that's what I'm doing.

September 24, 2016 - 02:20

Daniel Lopez

...

September 24, 2016 - 05:23

James Parker

Why waste nukes? We'll wipe ourselves out before we ever get enough tech to challenge them at the rate we're going.

September 24, 2016 - 08:37

Christopher Miller

Well, son..

September 24, 2016 - 09:33

Hunter Gray

Seriously, when did the Guardian become the most lazy vapid neoliberal propaganda? I've heard people describe it as a "left" newspaper in the past.

September 24, 2016 - 10:26

Parker Taylor

Year or two ago, same with the Independent (now owned by a Russian oligarch).

They even turn off the comments for Corbyn hit pieces and wonder why they idpol shit only gets 40 comments.

September 24, 2016 - 10:34

Jack Foster

Hillary Clinton Vows 65% Estate Tax - The Highest Since 1982 - To Donald Trump's Repeal

wsj.com/articles/hillary-clinton-proposes-65-tax-on-largest-estates-1474559914

Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton would levy a 65% tax on the largest estates and make it harder for wealthy people to pass appreciated assets to their heirs without paying taxes, expanding the list of tax increases she would impose on the top sliver of America’s affluent.

The estate-tax increase and other new proposals that Mrs. Clinton detailed on Thursday would generate $260 billion over the next decade, enough to pay for her plans to simplify small business taxes and expand the child tax credit, according to the nonpartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, which advocates fiscal restraint.

In all, Mrs. Clinton would increase taxes by about $1.5 trillion over the next decade, increasing federal revenue by about 4%, though that new burden would be concentrated on relatively few households. There is at least a $6 trillion gap between her plan and the tax cuts proposed by her Republican rival Donald Trump.

The Clinton campaign changed its previous plan—which called for a 45% top rate—by adding three new tax brackets and adopting the structure proposed by Sen. B████ ██████ of Vermont during the Democratic primaries. She would impose a 50% rate that would apply to estates over $10 million a person, a 55% rate that starts at $50 million a person, and the top rate of 65%, which would affect only those with assets exceeding $500 million for a single person and $1 billion for married couples.

September 24, 2016 - 10:40

Charles Nelson

Gotta finance more proxy wars against Russia somehow.

September 24, 2016 - 10:45

Aiden Nguyen

That's just advice given to her by Democratic congressmen. It's not her strategy. And don't the moderators enforce equal speaking time anyway?

I don't know, but the Clinton/Blair style of 'triangulation' wasn't populist. It focused heavily on swing voters while alienating core voters, which meant that although it was successful at winning elections it wasn't genuinely popular among any group of voters.

Its coverage of British politics isn't quite as bad. However, for some reason it has gone all-out for Hillary and appears to be taking orders directly from her campaign office.

September 24, 2016 - 10:47

Dominic Williams

Another desperate appeal to Sanderistas. They'll ignore it of course, since the primary taught them they can't trust the Democrats for shit, especially Hillary.

September 24, 2016 - 10:51

Christopher Anderson

Right? What reason does anyone have to believe she'll do anything she says? She's a snake and it would be foolish to take the serpent at her word.

September 24, 2016 - 11:19

Jace Lewis

Who's more likely to win? I'm not from Amrika and don't know how it looks from the inside, that's why I'm asking.

September 24, 2016 - 11:30

Christian Collins

Pundits and betting markets are still saying Clinton, but the momentum appears to be with Trump.

September 24, 2016 - 11:41

Julian Fisher

It's hard to say definitively because both candidates are loathed by the majority of people.

At the moment, my money's on Trump. He comes off as a raving lunatic, but Clinton is hounded by a new scandal or controversy practically every week. Young people treat both like they're poison. If our system was anything close to "fair" I would say that this would be the year of the third party, but I expect both to get maybe 1-2% at most because the other two parties have everything from the voting booths to the voting laws rigged in their favor.

Then there's Assange's alleged October surprise, which the stupid asshole has been blueballing us with for weeks now.

Really it's coming down to which candidate voters hate the least, and Clinton isn't winning over anyone that didn't love her to begin with. After all this email shit and the incredible amounts of corruption its exposed, I'm almost hoping Trump does win just to see the whole thing come crashing down.

If Putin or Xi were to nuke Washington right now and wipe out the whole nest of rats, they would probably be carried into office as the most popular president the US has had since Kennedy.

September 24, 2016 - 11:45

Nathan Foster

The debates are likely going to solve that question.

That would be the next election. All of this shit hit too soon for them to capitalize on it, but it'll give them plenty of meat for 2020 as voters look for other options.

September 24, 2016 - 11:59

Brody Roberts

Are the polls being deliberately 'skewed'? Normally I would dismiss the idea as fanciful but it seems really weird that there has been a succession of polls giving Hillary a healthy 5 point plus lead nationally, despite very even state-level polls and despite the horrific time she's been having lately.

September 24, 2016 - 12:01

Xavier Thompson

More likely than not.

September 24, 2016 - 12:02

Wyatt Lopez

God, Satan, Buddha, Demiurge, whoever's listening, make this happen

September 24, 2016 - 12:07

Isaac Barnes

I never wish death on a person but if she got sick enough during the debate that she has to be taken away for treatment that will be good enough for me.

September 24, 2016 - 12:15

Luke Williams

Gave you the real life version.

September 24, 2016 - 12:16

Connor Long

Reactionary populsim and pseudo-fascism. We're already getting it with Trump. He doesn't even pretend to care about "small government."

September 24, 2016 - 12:25

Jackson Clark

mfw

September 24, 2016 - 13:39

Hunter Clark

youtube.com/watch?v=IrpMrF6lALM
youtube.com/watch?v=skqcv9ePWLU
someone make the pain go away

September 24, 2016 - 13:59

Logan King

……

September 24, 2016 - 14:11

Ayden Smith

kill

September 24, 2016 - 14:43

Ethan James

I don't know which video is worse, the Trump one or the Clinton one

September 24, 2016 - 14:48

Thomas Sanders

The worst is the fact that they market this to kids. Crime against humanity, imo.

September 24, 2016 - 15:14

Jeremiah Myers

Woah, hol up, she won a grammy???? This changes everything.

September 24, 2016 - 15:59

Ethan Mitchell

This is child abuse.

September 24, 2016 - 17:01

Parker Hughes

She'll just have one of her coughing fits, lose time of reply, attempt to parrot some memorized lines about Trump's bigotry and then get mocked by him. Probably bad enough for her to lose.

September 24, 2016 - 19:41

Hudson Perry

Say it with me folks
AMERICA HAS TWO PARTIES THAT ARE DISTINCT AND OPPOSITE

September 24, 2016 - 19:53

Samuel Morris

...

September 24, 2016 - 19:57

Jeremiah Sanchez

Absolutely horrendous.

September 24, 2016 - 20:07

Nolan Johnson

Sure doesn't show

September 24, 2016 - 20:16

William Fisher

trump's plebbit has more subs than s4p now

September 25, 2016 - 08:20

Samuel Wood

Stein has been removed from the Nevada ballot.

September 25, 2016 - 09:47

Julian Jones

So she was on it, then removed?

Sounds like fucking Nevada.

September 25, 2016 - 09:55

Jacob Lopez

afp.com/en/news/205/clinton-trump-virtual-tie-ahead-first-debate
They're fucking tied right before the first debate.
Clinton is gonna hang herself if she loses this debate, then Washington post will write an oped blaming the Russians.

September 25, 2016 - 10:10

Kayden Sullivan

I hate most redditors

September 25, 2016 - 10:32

Bentley White

They refused to accept Stein's signatures.

September 25, 2016 - 10:35

Luis Phillips

What, they just said "No, we're not taking these?"

September 25, 2016 - 10:39

Evan Walker

I see people on Reddit and in the MSM confidently predicting that Clinton will obliterate Trump in the debates. As if Trump hasn't already spent hundreds (thousands?) of hours on TV batting away the harshest imaginable criticisms. There will be panic if and when Trump comes through unscathed.

September 25, 2016 - 10:42

Nolan Ward

I don't like Trump but you have to be deluded to believe that Clinton won't be obliterated in the debates by Trump or that she would even hold her own against him.

September 25, 2016 - 11:02

Julian Baker

According to this article, Stein didn't get enough signatures before the June 3 deadline.

Sometimes these judges allow it, but not in this case. Just like they would have accepted the democratic parties' switch(if Hillary had dropped out due to health concerns), they should've accepted it in this case, I think.

reviewjournal.com/politics/election-2016/green-party-presidential-candidate-jill-stein-won-t-appear-nevada-ballot

September 25, 2016 - 11:05

Gabriel Stewart

How? Trump seems very reckless in his public relations, he could make a fatal mistake in the debate despite being otherwise stronger. While Hillary is like a robot - not likeable at all, but not risky.

September 25, 2016 - 11:13

Jackson Cox

bigstory.ap.org/article/91874d607c9c4dc9aa53aaa93e3cbb8c/clinton-team-hopes-birther-flap-will-motivate-black-voters
REEEEEEE

September 25, 2016 - 11:14

Hudson Ross

Was she ever actually on it?

According to the old Nevada ballot access page:

It's a sad setback though because that shithole of a state doesn't count write-in candidates on the ballot.

September 25, 2016 - 11:43

Michael Harris

see but I think it might have contradicting info to what you found

September 25, 2016 - 11:54

Eli Brown

That's pretty much what happened in Georgia

September 25, 2016 - 11:56

Nicholas Johnson

Wasn't it Blumenthal (assisting Clinton's old campaign) who made up the rumor in attempt to discredit Obama while she ran against him? If I recall that's how it got started, and the republicans just fell for it hook line and sinker and of-course the conspiracies just spread from there like a wildfire.

September 25, 2016 - 12:02

Benjamin Harris

Clinton's team leaked the photo during the 08 primaries, yes.

September 25, 2016 - 12:11

Isaiah Russell

How do we radicalize these stupid bourgeois white women?

September 25, 2016 - 12:20

Elijah Williams

They will get radicalized or die in the upcoming civil war.

September 25, 2016 - 12:28

Robert Harris

...

September 25, 2016 - 12:28

Evan Rivera

Obama looks rad as fuck.

September 25, 2016 - 12:30

Cameron Williams

kek

September 25, 2016 - 12:33

Hudson Adams

he looks like a wololo, tbh

September 25, 2016 - 12:41

Sebastian Jackson

better than the oprah kind of thing he's doing as a president

September 25, 2016 - 12:47

Carter Martin

somehow this version manages to be less creepy

September 25, 2016 - 12:48

Austin Baker

You should've seen it the week after Trump had his press conference & blamed it on her. Literally pages of search results, every "major" news agency was posting "debunked" articles on the claim - but if you actually read the articles themselves(which many are too lazy to do) they went on to explain exactly how her campaign started it. It's insanity. Politico, CNN, Politifact, Snopes, Factcheck.org, USA Today, so on & so forth.

September 25, 2016 - 12:53

Matthew Sullivan

...

September 25, 2016 - 12:54

Elijah Phillips

This one makes me uncomfortable

September 25, 2016 - 12:55

Hunter Myers

kill it with fire

September 25, 2016 - 13:04

Andrew Baker

Looks like Chelsea's future private wax museum.

September 25, 2016 - 13:14

Zachary Williams

The #ShillsforHill "factchecking" on that was hilarious

September 25, 2016 - 13:50

Jaxon Jackson

i want them both to embarrass themselves so much, your average voter could not rationalize either "side"s performance.

September 25, 2016 - 17:47

Nolan Long

THE POINTS DONALD, HAND OVER THE POINTS

September 25, 2016 - 17:58

Joshua Sullivan

Guaranteed to happen. No matter what goes on between now and in November at least we'll get some good chuckles out of it.
Holla Forums cringeparty is Tomorrow! Who's hyped!

September 25, 2016 - 18:18

James Perry

Who /DebateDrinking/ here? I got smashed watching a couple of the B████ Hillary debates. It's impossible to tolerate them otherwise.

honestly I think I'll probably just skip it altogether. I have homework and shit to do.

September 25, 2016 - 18:23

Landon Gray

When is that fucking faggot Assange going to drop the rest of the shit he promised us?

September 25, 2016 - 18:33

Anthony Martinez

Predictions for the debate
1-Clinton and Trump will try to out patriot one another. Expect Hillary to bring up Trump's supposed connections to Russia and attack him for not supporting NATO or committing to a no fly zone in Syria
2-9/11 will be mentioned on at least 3 separate occasions
3-No matter what kind of stupid things Trump says the media will only focus on him insulting Hillary and call him a woman hater for that
4-Clinton will brag about how even the Bush-era Republicans endorsed her over Trump, then act surprised when this doesn't help her in the polls afterwords
5-Trump will go off topic to talk about Benghazi/the E-mails/Bill Clinton's affair
6-Trump will shit all over BLM, Clinton will just say that the problem with racism is that we need more diversity in the police force
7-Hillary will call Donald a racist for saying he wants to deport mexicans while at the same time defending Obama's immigration policies
7-Both candidates will fellate Israel
8-Both candidates will say that we need to keep troops in the Middle East
9-Both candidates will pretend to oppose the TPP
10-The Liberals will say that everything Hillary said was golden
11-The polacks will insist that Donald destroyed Hillary
12-We're going to get raided afterwards

September 25, 2016 - 18:47

Grayson Wilson

All sounds about right to me.

September 25, 2016 - 19:05

Jason Johnson

Obligatory

September 25, 2016 - 19:06

Tyler Butler

...

September 25, 2016 - 22:40

Charles Cooper

...

September 25, 2016 - 22:42

Luke Sanchez

He's waiting for the go-ahead from his primary advisors.

September 25, 2016 - 22:47

Xavier Taylor

Yes, but when will Putin give him the go-ahead to finally destroy America?

September 26, 2016 - 01:17

Asher Ward

No idea, would you like to ask?

September 26, 2016 - 01:22

Alexander Anderson

Yes

September 26, 2016 - 01:34

Jackson Torres

[citation needed]

September 26, 2016 - 01:36

Angel Reed

Not that any actual policies will change, but it would be nice to see McCain, Sheriff Joe, and the rest of the GOP clown car here to get some comeuppance.

September 26, 2016 - 01:47

Gavin Collins

AWWW YEAAAAH

September 26, 2016 - 01:58

Parker Morgan

wsws.org/en/articles/2016/09/26/pers-s26.html

26 September 2016

September 26, 2016 - 02:02

Caleb Lewis

Patrick Martin

September 26, 2016 - 02:02

Thomas Brooks

holy shit does this thread get moderated at all for Holla Forumstards?

September 26, 2016 - 02:05

Tyler Lopez

I don't think he was serious user

September 26, 2016 - 02:11

Grayson Torres

bredi much

September 26, 2016 - 02:14

Charles Thompson

kill yourself

September 26, 2016 - 02:36

Eli Butler

I second this. What absolute garbage. This post should "never exist".

September 26, 2016 - 08:18

Mason Edwards

I bet Newt writes fanfics about his own OC with his freetime.

September 26, 2016 - 09:49

Aiden Martinez

reddit.com/r/politics/comments/54khbz/hillary_clinton_is_outraising_trump_20to1_among/d82vnfs?context=3

Jesus Christ

September 26, 2016 - 10:36

Noah Robinson

How do you do fellow redditers I tip my trilby to each and every one of you :o)

September 26, 2016 - 10:46

Gabriel Long

reddit, I just don't know how to quit you!

After originally campaigning for B████, I mainly go there to counter the CTR bullshit, nowadays. I'm disgusted at the fact they make me want to defend Trump in any way, too.

But they have some good subreddits. It's good for a passtime.

September 26, 2016 - 10:54

Leo Richardson

Reddit is massively compromised by paid shills and has been by businesses for a long time. I wouldn't waste too much time on it.

Reclaiming the socialist subs when?

September 26, 2016 - 10:57

Daniel Clark

just postan here to get an pre-debate link

September 26, 2016 - 13:40

Adam Sanders

Checked & seconded. I was just going to make this request. I'll look in the meantime & post one if I find one. Not TYT, either, because they're a shit & talk over the debates the entire time.

September 26, 2016 - 13:57

Owen Rivera

You have to disable adblockers, but here's one

livenewschat.eu/the-republican-debates-live-stream/

Others should post some, too, so we have something to choose from. This one is apparently MSNBC.

September 26, 2016 - 14:02

Colton Lopez

Is the debate at 7 or 8?

September 26, 2016 - 14:55

Carter Taylor

9pm

September 26, 2016 - 14:59

Caleb Richardson

2 & a half hours to go.

September 26, 2016 - 14:59

Henry Reyes

I think its at 9 ET

September 26, 2016 - 15:00

Lincoln Baker

archive.is/4PV3e
you shall share in my pain

September 26, 2016 - 15:59

Thomas Ward

How come those supposed intellectuals can't win a debate with the average Holla Forumsack then? They inevitably start screeching RACIST BIGOT ANTISEMITE etc and forfeit the debate.

September 26, 2016 - 16:01

Leo Lopez

Ah, unitinu, after all those years we meet again

September 26, 2016 - 16:22

David Powell

Good. I've already been kicked from other chats because normies couldn't handle debate. Thanks for the link.

September 26, 2016 - 16:26

Gabriel Scott

kek

September 26, 2016 - 16:29

Jordan Morris

Dude, shut up, they're going to… they're gonna make it

They'll make it, some day ;~;

September 26, 2016 - 16:38

Bentley Myers

inthesetimes.com/features/voting_for_hillary_foreign_policy_militarism.html
Shillary Blown the Fuck Out

September 26, 2016 - 17:13

Jonathan Phillips

youtube.com/watch?v=rTt-xhF02Gg
Death to Hillary Clinton!!!

September 26, 2016 - 17:48

Mason Torres

We should all go to the same stream - preferably one with a chat that we can propagandize.

September 26, 2016 - 17:50

Blake Gomez

kill yourself your turboautist, stop spamming the fucking board

September 26, 2016 - 17:54

Josiah Johnson

What?

September 26, 2016 - 17:54

Aiden Carter

Whoops, sorry. Wrong thread.

Some sperg keeps peddling his shitty stream link everywhere.

September 26, 2016 - 17:56

Matthew Brown

What?

September 26, 2016 - 17:56

Nolan Rivera

OK well here are the top links to jewtube live streams when I searched "presidential debate"

youtube.com/watch?v=855Am6ovK7s

youtube.com/watch?v=cNvJz4dsMMY

youtube.com/watch?v=L6QElWIKfDk

youtube.com/watch?v=ZEHPrYUcoi0

youtube.com/watch?v=Kgiu_K9D-18

youtube.com/watch?v=dRcN6KTKd6U

youtube.com/watch?v=6Be4PymcGIc

youtube.com/watch?v=-N4KiSvOz8w

September 26, 2016 - 17:59

Henry Bailey

Hey, it's not shitty. It's pretty good right now.

September 26, 2016 - 18:02

Gabriel Morgan

It's blocked for TOR.

September 26, 2016 - 18:06

Dylan Morgan

HOW ARE YA DONALD? : D

September 26, 2016 - 18:06

Xavier Hill

She is so scripted.

September 26, 2016 - 18:08

Carson Clark

inorite? Opens with a banshee wail.

She's giving the most canned answer I've ever heard.

September 26, 2016 - 18:08

Aaron Howard

Oh, that sucks

September 26, 2016 - 18:10

Christian Rogers

I KNOW NUMBERS

September 26, 2016 - 18:11

Elijah Johnson

omfg trump is doing to fuck her right up i fear. he sounds way more genuine. she's a robot. looks like fascist america here we come. smart of him to focus on the trade deals.

September 26, 2016 - 18:12

Owen Stewart

Good god that's just pathetic, and she couldn't have delivered it worse.

September 26, 2016 - 18:12

Robert Adams

I really want to believe that the unpaid intern who wrote that line sabotaged her on purpose

September 26, 2016 - 18:13

Daniel Martin

"very small loan"

September 26, 2016 - 18:14

Matthew Gutierrez

He should know better than to bring that up, but she baited him. She might actually be able to get him to say some stupid shit about himself.

September 26, 2016 - 18:15

Leo Howard

...

September 26, 2016 - 18:16

Angel Sanders

*SNIFF*

Trump confirmed for slick entryist accelerationist.

September 26, 2016 - 18:16

Jaxon Moore

i thought this would be more exciting

September 26, 2016 - 18:17

Brody Murphy

He's making himself seem like the "sick one". Trump plant confirmed.

September 26, 2016 - 18:17

Ian Myers

'that's called business'

hey everyone i'm a rich porky who doesn't care about you

September 26, 2016 - 18:17

Landon Garcia

They specifically asked the audience not to make any sounds. I'm sure they want to earn that wage…

September 26, 2016 - 18:18

Justin Lewis

I'm disappointed too.
Hopefully they'll rip into each other more later.

September 26, 2016 - 18:18

Nathaniel Young

Yeah but Americans are just that classcucked.

September 26, 2016 - 18:18

Benjamin Murphy

Yeah, not sure that will play well.

September 26, 2016 - 18:18

David Hughes

He's right, though.

September 26, 2016 - 18:18

Colton Young

LEGALIZE COAL

September 26, 2016 - 18:19

Daniel Gutierrez

yeah but it's a shitty election strategy to say shit like that

September 26, 2016 - 18:19

Connor Hill

OK Trump is getting energetic now, maybe it will pick up. He's starting to rip on her.

September 26, 2016 - 18:19

Noah Roberts

notice how none of them suggest nationalizing the energy industry

September 26, 2016 - 18:19

Cameron Young

notice how none of them suggest killing the bourgeoisie and abolishing the state.

September 26, 2016 - 18:20

Jose Smith

Wow that's not a good look.

September 26, 2016 - 18:21

Juan Gutierrez

Hillary coming off a bit smug

September 26, 2016 - 18:21

Lucas Garcia

As a non-American, I prefer Trump. I'm hoping for good relations with Russia which automatically means better international relations across the globe and less greedy American empire. I know, it's naive, but there's Hillary who will only make things worse.

September 26, 2016 - 18:21

Nicholas Gutierrez

FUCK SHILLARY WHY ARE YOU POINTING TO BILL AS A GOOD EXAMPLE.

Just awful. Has to defend all the things he did now. Also does against her stronk woman image.

September 26, 2016 - 18:21

Aaron Perry

HES GETTING ANGRY

September 26, 2016 - 18:21

Isaiah Hernandez

If Clinton keeps defending NAFTA than she's even more out of touch than I thought.

September 26, 2016 - 18:22

Camden Foster

that's just like your opinion man

September 26, 2016 - 18:22

Michael Ortiz

Why do you Americans blame the deficit on Obama instead of Congress?

September 26, 2016 - 18:22

Noah Allen

he's attacking the shit out of her

September 26, 2016 - 18:22

Benjamin King

It's over

September 26, 2016 - 18:22

Liam Johnson

Because

September 26, 2016 - 18:22

Lucas Baker

Trump is fucking hilarious, man.

September 26, 2016 - 18:22

Mason Hughes

Holy shit she's on the ropes

September 26, 2016 - 18:23

Nolan Evans

trump is totally controlling this debate.

September 26, 2016 - 18:23

Tyler Cruz

Obama da king n sheeit

September 26, 2016 - 18:23

Isaac Myers

SHES SHILLING FOR HER BOOK

September 26, 2016 - 18:23

Jaxson Bennett

HTTP 404 the Shillbot has stopped working

September 26, 2016 - 18:23

Gavin Brown

Is it just me or is Trump less orange than usual?

September 26, 2016 - 18:24

Gavin Rogers

Didn't Reagan raise taxes?

September 26, 2016 - 18:24

Cameron Ward

SHE'S DOING THE AWKWARD SMILE WHERE SHE'S GETTING REKT AND HAS NO RESPONSE

September 26, 2016 - 18:25

Daniel Torres

the dems couldnt have picked a worse candidate tbh.

imagine if this was B████ instead of her. :"(

the things that could have been

September 26, 2016 - 18:25

Isaiah Cooper

yes but fantasy reagan abolished all taxes and killed Stalin with his bare hands.

September 26, 2016 - 18:25

Ian Powell

FACT CHECKING
LOOK AT MY WEBSITE

September 26, 2016 - 18:25

Adrian Rivera

She's shilling for her website now!
It's like a car crash in slo-motion!

September 26, 2016 - 18:26

Nolan Gray

Oh man, this is incredible.

September 26, 2016 - 18:26

Michael Peterson

What a fucking rollercoaster

September 26, 2016 - 18:27

Gabriel Robinson

AARRGH FACT CHECKERS HELP ME

September 26, 2016 - 18:27

Parker Morgan

J O B C R E A T O R S
O
B
C
R
E
A
T
O
R
S

September 26, 2016 - 18:27

Samuel Russell

JUSTICE FOR LARRY S█████

Hillary robbed his bro ;~;

September 26, 2016 - 18:27

Landon Wilson

Bernie would've sent him to the gulag.

September 26, 2016 - 18:28

Asher Fisher

Fucking DNC chose this.

September 26, 2016 - 18:28

Ayden Nelson

what happened to her voice lol

September 26, 2016 - 18:28

Justin Taylor

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO CORRECT THE RECORD
Somebody needs to add "fact checker" to Urban Dictionary with "correct the record" or something.

September 26, 2016 - 18:29

Jordan Wright

...

September 26, 2016 - 18:29

Adam Wilson

...

September 26, 2016 - 18:30

Jason Wilson

hillary is so cringe.

September 26, 2016 - 18:30

Dylan Allen

Did she really think this was a good line?

September 26, 2016 - 18:30

Hudson Campbell

...

September 26, 2016 - 18:30

Mason Johnson

why even live

September 26, 2016 - 18:31

Julian Walker

it sounds like hillary wants to cry

September 26, 2016 - 18:31

Aaron Thomas

...

September 26, 2016 - 18:31

Anthony Stewart

it really does

September 26, 2016 - 18:32

Xavier Miller

..I hope she does

September 26, 2016 - 18:32

David Nguyen

...

September 26, 2016 - 18:32

Carter Jenkins

That's assuming that she can feel human emotions

September 26, 2016 - 18:33

Levi Sullivan

For revenge.

September 26, 2016 - 18:33

Samuel Young

OH SHIT THE EMAILS

September 26, 2016 - 18:34

Nathaniel Collins

...

September 26, 2016 - 18:34

Isaac Rogers

'i get audited every year'

wtf.

September 26, 2016 - 18:34

Matthew Hughes

Jesus Christ, Trump is getting bent over and fucked. I can't imagine how hard B████ would've fucking killed him if Hillbot can fucking generate this much ass-pain in Trump.

September 26, 2016 - 18:35

Jace Hughes

debate moderator doing hillary's debating for her

September 26, 2016 - 18:35

Thomas Davis

Oh shit, he gon do what he did to Rubio.

September 26, 2016 - 18:35

Anthony Williams

...

September 26, 2016 - 18:36

Angel Adams

What, spit more word salad like he has the rest of the debate? He looks like he's about to blow a gasket.

September 26, 2016 - 18:36

Jace Collins

...

September 26, 2016 - 18:36

Nathaniel Evans

Yeah, I have a bad feeling about this.

Assange will save us tomorrow.

September 26, 2016 - 18:36

Hunter White

ok trump is fucking up by admitting to being a corrupt business man. he's destorying her otherwise.

September 26, 2016 - 18:37

Caleb Lee

...

September 26, 2016 - 18:37

Nolan Edwards

what debate are you watching bruh? Clinton can't give a straight answer to save her life. Trump is focusing on trade and the economy. That'll win him the debate.

September 26, 2016 - 18:37

Adam Moore

I would far rather have a robotic neoliberal than a fascist as my president, so this is, uh, ok I guess.

September 26, 2016 - 18:37

Jose Sanchez

Trump is getting absolutely fucked

ALL he needed to do is not look like a crazy.

September 26, 2016 - 18:38

Joshua Nguyen

Dude what? She literally just gave a canned answer a moment ago that was contradicted by what he said immediately prior.

September 26, 2016 - 18:38

Charles Sanders

Yes, Trump's tax returns are a sore point but people won't vote based on that, especially when Hillary's integrity is equally tarnished.

September 26, 2016 - 18:38

Michael Sullivan

He doesn't look crazy though (yet).

September 26, 2016 - 18:39

Xavier Clark

End this meme

September 26, 2016 - 18:39

Aiden Ross

This meme has to die.

September 26, 2016 - 18:39

Eli Scott

Are YOU watching the same debate I am? He's fucking freaking out right now and nothing he has said has had any value.

September 26, 2016 - 18:39

Andrew Miller

Jesus, you're sensitive. Hillary has destroyed whole countries. At least Trump wants better relations with Russia. Otherwise there's not much difference between them.

September 26, 2016 - 18:40

Kayden Mitchell

don't think we're watching the same debate m8.

Trump is attacking her while she's just spooting pre-written lines

September 26, 2016 - 18:40

Connor Diaz

...

September 26, 2016 - 18:40

Joshua Hughes

Doesn't matter, burgers can't into substance. They'll look at this debate and think Trump came out strong.

September 26, 2016 - 18:41

Adam Wood

He's coming off as strong. Content doesn't burden fascists.

September 26, 2016 - 18:41

Luis Williams

interesting that people are saying this. i think trump is playing into the angry man of the people vibe contrasted to establishment hillary. maybe he's just appealing to my values more than the general population though.

September 26, 2016 - 18:41

Daniel Lewis

...

September 26, 2016 - 18:41

Aiden Campbell

...

September 26, 2016 - 18:42

David Young

W R O N G
R
O
N
G

September 26, 2016 - 18:42

Nathaniel Green

*bump*

September 26, 2016 - 18:43

Owen Morgan

WALMART
BOARD OF DIRECTORS

September 26, 2016 - 18:43

Adrian Phillips

Why the fuck is he talking about exploiting the laws for profit and about his corporations?

September 26, 2016 - 18:45

Carson Richardson

Trump better tread lightly

September 26, 2016 - 18:45

Joseph Martinez

if trump talks shit about black people he's done

September 26, 2016 - 18:45

Brayden Murphy

SUPERPREDATORS

September 26, 2016 - 18:45

Blake Richardson

Because they brought it up. "Don y u a capitalist?" "Bcuz dats da system, bruv!"

September 26, 2016 - 18:46

Logan Wright

Also a good opportunity to be presidential.

September 26, 2016 - 18:46

Liam Jackson

America worships muh job creators. Trump is appealing to the cult of the entrepreneur.

September 26, 2016 - 18:46

Caleb Thomas

...

September 26, 2016 - 18:48

Sebastian Kelly

are cops disliked by the general american populace? or just minorities?

September 26, 2016 - 18:48

Matthew Gray

You walk down the street, you get SHOT

September 26, 2016 - 18:48

Brandon Jenkins

Trump can only appeal to white voters

September 26, 2016 - 18:49

Cameron Turner

Just minorities. Most white people think cops are gud boiz dey din du nuffin.

September 26, 2016 - 18:49

Mason Smith

my racist grandma just creamed herself

September 26, 2016 - 18:49

Jonathan Gray

Brown people don't like cops. Non-brown people tend to like cops.

September 26, 2016 - 18:49

Lucas Hernandez

' a very against police judge xD '

September 26, 2016 - 18:50

Levi Adams

tbh, most people think like that, its just more visible in the US because you'd expect the people living in the first country of the world to be smart.
you realize they're way more stupid than the average European.

the think is 'murica is 5% very smart and 95% idiots

September 26, 2016 - 18:50

Jace Sanchez

Clinton straight up looks like she's about to cry.

September 26, 2016 - 18:50

Samuel Butler

trump is throwing all non white voters out the window then

September 26, 2016 - 18:51

Jordan Robinson

He talks just like me!

September 26, 2016 - 18:51

Justin Fisher

Clinton is literally trying to argue that black poverty and ghettoization isn't that bad

September 26, 2016 - 18:52

Ayden Hall

That doesn't follow. It's not like all non-whites are so anti-cop that they will refuse to vote for anyone pro-cop.

September 26, 2016 - 18:52

Evan Cooper

...

September 26, 2016 - 18:53

Xavier Garcia

he's showing a very deep lack of concern for the issues that are important to those communities.

September 26, 2016 - 18:53

Nathan Johnson

niggers gonna nig

September 26, 2016 - 18:54

Gabriel Campbell

...

September 26, 2016 - 18:54

Christian Thompson

This fucking idpol shit, man.

September 26, 2016 - 18:54

Cameron Bailey

yeah that isn't orwellian at all

September 26, 2016 - 18:55

Hunter Diaz

And it sure is effective when a man comes to the FBI saying his son is a terrorist and they can't even stop that.

September 26, 2016 - 18:56

Brandon Perry

S U P E R P R E D A T O R

September 26, 2016 - 18:56

John Thomas

shiiiiiiiiiit.

trump roasting hillary for hating black people

September 26, 2016 - 18:57

Samuel Barnes

That's been his plan.

September 26, 2016 - 18:57

Bentley Harris

Simply not true.

White prole here. Have learned to hate/fear cops.

September 26, 2016 - 18:57

Hudson Lee

If he wins even 10% of black votes that'll be a great result for him. He doesn't need to have mass appeal among blacks.

September 26, 2016 - 18:57

Alexander Martinez

She's fucking dead. He literally got her to flip flop right there in front of 100 million peopleb

September 26, 2016 - 18:58

John Walker

wew

September 26, 2016 - 18:58

Anthony Price

She also said murder was down when the rising murder rate has been a major news story today.

September 26, 2016 - 18:59

Levi Russell

I love how Clinton is alternating between saying that crime is going down, we need gun control, a strong police force, less systemic racism, a strong surveillance state and attacking Trump for being racist all at once.

September 26, 2016 - 18:59

Oliver Evans

what did she mean by this?

September 26, 2016 - 18:59

Adrian Powell

She offered her soul to the elder gods in exchange for stewardship over earth

September 26, 2016 - 19:00

Benjamin Collins

i doubt he'll get near that much

September 26, 2016 - 19:01

Kayden Wilson

It means she bought out DWS and Kaine in 2008.

September 26, 2016 - 19:01

Josiah Fisher

who's winning leftypol

September 26, 2016 - 19:01

Leo Allen

Honestly I don't even know which one I hate more. Goddamn are they both stupid

FUCK

September 26, 2016 - 19:01

Adrian Reyes

wew

September 26, 2016 - 19:02

Asher Kelly

porky

September 26, 2016 - 19:02

Luke Morgan

capitalism

but Trump is slightly ahead

September 26, 2016 - 19:02

Hunter Garcia

...

September 26, 2016 - 19:02

David Morgan

That's not the point. I'm saying that blacks are effectively a lost cause for Republicans, it therefore does not pay for them to take the black side against white cops.

September 26, 2016 - 19:02

Juan Edwards

didnt trump get 20% of the nigra vote in one poll?

September 26, 2016 - 19:03

Jace Adams

i see what you're saying. i agree.

September 26, 2016 - 19:03

Thomas Phillips

WOW HILLARY HOW DARE YOU BE MEAN TO OBAMA WOW. LIKE, YOU'RE BEING KINDA ISLAMOPHOBIC HILLARY THATS KINDA excellent.

September 26, 2016 - 19:05

Benjamin Garcia

...

September 26, 2016 - 19:06

William White

...

September 26, 2016 - 19:06

Christopher Ward

R U S S I A

September 26, 2016 - 19:07

Jose Flores

you realize these are two sides of the same coin right

September 26, 2016 - 19:07

Xavier Barnes

its muh mudafuggin russians time

September 26, 2016 - 19:07

Lincoln Sanchez

this

Also, notice how they went ahead after Trump called out the Clinton campaign releasing the turban pic

September 26, 2016 - 19:07

Owen Lee

yeah no shit.

I'm just mocking Trump for actually trying to sound more socially liberal

September 26, 2016 - 19:07

Grayson Butler

MUH RUSSIANS=

September 26, 2016 - 19:08

Parker Nelson

...

September 26, 2016 - 19:08

Joseph Young

trump doesn't even try to deny his racist business practices.

September 26, 2016 - 19:08

Liam Moore

So, the "axis of evil" ?

September 26, 2016 - 19:08

Brandon Ross

fuck off shill

September 26, 2016 - 19:09

Jeremiah Mitchell

PUTIN IS INFILTRATING AMERICA
BEWARE THE RUSKIE MENACE
but Trump is the one relying on fear to get elected

September 26, 2016 - 19:09

Asher Morales

if you want to shill for trump go to Holla Forums

September 26, 2016 - 19:10

Noah Cooper

kek

September 26, 2016 - 19:10

Lucas King

BERNIE SAAANDDERRS

September 26, 2016 - 19:10

Xavier Foster

WE MUST FIGHT THEM OVER THERE SO WE DON'T FIGHT THEM OVER HERE

September 26, 2016 - 19:10

Kayden Mitchell

top kek

September 26, 2016 - 19:10

Christian Gray

y tho
You could destroy her with that alone.

September 26, 2016 - 19:11

Julian Smith

"axis of resistance" (Hezbollah's phrase)

September 26, 2016 - 19:11

Matthew Butler

bad move for Trump to attack his own supporters like that

September 26, 2016 - 19:11

Elijah Hall

Someone needs to Sept of Baelor Hofstra University.

September 26, 2016 - 19:12

Henry Peterson

"The security aspect of cyber is very tough, but it's doable."

"We have many things we need to do better, Lester, and cyber is one of them."

Does he not know that cyber is an adjective?

September 26, 2016 - 19:12

Jayden Butler

Trump needs to have more energy here, he could nail Hillary on security like he did on trade. He seems to have lost his focus

Also, kek at that caricature of a hacker

September 26, 2016 - 19:12

Connor Gutierrez

...

September 26, 2016 - 19:12

Jaxson Evans

I honestly think russia could potentially be trying to sway the election. I hope in the next 10 or so years we'll know for sure.

September 26, 2016 - 19:13

Brandon Bennett

He did, and mentioned B████

He needs to push that harder, tho

September 26, 2016 - 19:13

Bentley Bailey

ENOUGH

September 26, 2016 - 19:13

Lincoln Stewart

...

September 26, 2016 - 19:13

Hudson Martin

...

September 26, 2016 - 19:15

Brandon Williams

WE CAME WE SAW HE DIED
AREN'T I RELATABLE MILLENNIALS!

September 26, 2016 - 19:15

Gabriel Morgan

'i guess so' isn't approval hillary.

September 26, 2016 - 19:15

Christopher Lewis

WRORNG

September 26, 2016 - 19:16

Hudson Bell

Hillary's smile's gone. She's starting to get tired.

September 26, 2016 - 19:16

Isaac Jackson

I hope she collapses on-stage.

September 26, 2016 - 19:16

Dominic Miller

if S█████ was nominee i hope he'd point out that ISIS was the inevitable result of the US occupying the iraq in the first place.

September 26, 2016 - 19:16

Adrian Torres

I fucking hate this sham of a system. It's all a fucking circus. You could put some fag from Holla Forums up on that stage and they'd do better than either of these people.

September 26, 2016 - 19:16

Leo Parker

she can't keep up with this high energy

hopefully a clot breaks free and lodges in her brain

September 26, 2016 - 19:17

Grayson Miller

...

September 26, 2016 - 19:17

John King

I REEEEEEEEED

September 26, 2016 - 19:18

Jaxson Barnes

muke?

September 26, 2016 - 19:18

Brandon Murphy

If it was between S█████ and Trump, who do you think they would vote for?

September 26, 2016 - 19:18

Aiden Cooper

they're getting tired

September 26, 2016 - 19:18

Benjamin Davis

...

September 26, 2016 - 19:18

Carson Martin

can't access the webm atm

youtube.com/watch?v=vqYJRc0TJkQ

September 26, 2016 - 19:18

Dylan Myers

Holla Forums pls, you're not going to make us hate blacks

September 26, 2016 - 19:18

Zachary James

y u think I ever be voting for dat cracker boi mang

September 26, 2016 - 19:18

Xavier Bennett

...

September 26, 2016 - 19:18

Henry Barnes

Just as this wasn't reiterated enough, why is it that Hillary doesn't ridicule his expressions? He is so transparently pathetic. How come she doesn't grill him to tears, is it because she is weak or afraid to alienate some of his base?

September 26, 2016 - 19:18

Dylan Martinez

...

September 26, 2016 - 19:19

Isaac Gutierrez

She needs to be more forceful, interrupt him like he does her.

September 26, 2016 - 19:20

Brayden Cooper

Any news on the protest/rally held outside the debate hall yet? It seems the mainstream media is doing a good job failing to cover it.

September 26, 2016 - 19:20

Owen Collins

How the fuck will the presidency not kill either of them, then? Look at what it did to Obama.

September 26, 2016 - 19:20

Cameron Walker

But I still hope she seizes onstage.

September 26, 2016 - 19:20

Robert Green

Because that would be ableist you sinner.

September 26, 2016 - 19:21

Michael Perez

I didn't even know it was happening.

Anyone have a stream? Periscope, maybe?

September 26, 2016 - 19:21

Alexander Gutierrez

Anti-Trump Hispanics were mostly B████ voters.

September 26, 2016 - 19:21

Kayden Murphy

T R U M P

September 26, 2016 - 19:23

Jason Parker

I just googled it and apparently Stein got kicked out by campus security.

September 26, 2016 - 19:23

Jackson Torres

Adrenaline rushes will leave you feeling worn out quite quickly. Trump in particular was absolutely pumped at the beginning, he used up all his energy.

September 26, 2016 - 19:23

Juan Davis

what did she mean by this

September 26, 2016 - 19:23

Colton Butler

hello fellow millenials

September 26, 2016 - 19:24

Carson Campbell

that's what a personality cult is like

September 26, 2016 - 19:24

Hunter Thomas

Based Stein, as per usual

September 26, 2016 - 19:24

Asher Long

I don't see it happening, maybe -having two debates ahead- they are saving the best stuff to fuck each other up in a very messy finale of this bullshit

September 26, 2016 - 19:25

Cooper Jones

"WOO. OKAY."
-Hillary Clinton, 2016

September 26, 2016 - 19:25

Jayden Sullivan

Looked condescending imo.

September 26, 2016 - 19:25

Dylan Johnson

mai presidential candidatefu does it again

September 26, 2016 - 19:25

Josiah Garcia

He still signed the Bush tax cut extensions into law. There's a lot of bullshit Obama never should have signed but he did because he's a tool.

September 26, 2016 - 19:26

Jacob Hall

WHY
YOU CAN JUST ACTUALLY QUOTE HIM

September 26, 2016 - 19:26

Lincoln Cook

trump is apologetically talking about bombing other countries military assets because they hurt american fee fees

why are any anti-war people shilling for this guy?

September 26, 2016 - 19:26

Jaxson Cruz

It only appeals to people who already support her and think Trump is Hitler.
Honestly at this point I feel sad for anyone who doesn't have strong political opinions desperately trying to figure out who is the less retarded option.

September 26, 2016 - 19:27

Michael Bennett

because Clinton is just as pro-war as He is, but Trump sometimes says ant-war stuff by accident

September 26, 2016 - 19:27

Daniel Anderson

REDUCE NUCLEAR WEAPONS IN YOUR OWN FUCKING COUNTRY AND ISRAEL, YOU FUCKING HYPOCRITE

double standards as fuck, the biggest army in the world is scared of Iran having nuclear energy plants (now even weapons)

September 26, 2016 - 19:28

Nathaniel Walker

because he talks about doing it and she's actually done it, and done it in higher amounts than he even bragadociously suggests in his greatest flights of fancy

September 26, 2016 - 19:28

Brayden Nelson

idiotic reason to support him still tbh

September 26, 2016 - 19:28

Parker Young

The less retarded option is to vote third party. We should be constantly telling everyone to vote third party (because both these wackos are equally shit, so it's not like you'll lose anything).

September 26, 2016 - 19:29

Isaac Martinez

America can't start foreign wars if it's a radioactive wasteland!

September 26, 2016 - 19:30

Jason Green

It's just the muh lesser ebul argument.

September 26, 2016 - 19:30

Xavier Howard

and they're against the Iran deal even though it prevents iran creating nuclear weapons

September 26, 2016 - 19:30

Charles Morris

Yes, but I'm talking about the average American who thinks third party is a wasted vote.

September 26, 2016 - 19:30

Caleb Clark

lmao

September 26, 2016 - 19:31

Gavin Price

Me too. You should tell those people, "Look, both the main candidates are shit, right? You might as well vote third party and make it more visible that people dislike what the parties are doing."

September 26, 2016 - 19:32

Camden Sanchez

reminder that Iran has already pledged to only develop nuclear plants for energy purposes while America has a first-strike policy and Israel refuses to admit it even has nukes

September 26, 2016 - 19:32

Asher Thomas

Just had a look at Holla Forums
top kek

September 26, 2016 - 19:33

Asher Russell

He literally just said it again

September 26, 2016 - 19:33

Wyatt Fisher

i'm surprised that both Hillary and the moderator are both being so weak on Donald

September 26, 2016 - 19:34

Gavin Kelly

This audience is a bunch of monkeys. What part of 'keep quiet' do they not get?

September 26, 2016 - 19:36

Bentley Rodriguez

>that flicker of fear in Hillary's eyes when the crowd cheers on Trump's "we can't afford 4 more years of that kind of experience" line
And now she's playing the woman card, my god.

September 26, 2016 - 19:36

Landon Murphy

Tell them to make their vote count, by making a third party viable. If third parties get 5% they are eligible for Federal funding, being put on all state ballots & participate in future Presidential debates.

Better than voting for the shit major parties, right now.

September 26, 2016 - 19:36

John Reed

I expected her to be more confrontational on his contradictions on the final stretch, maybe this women bashing she is on now will be the trigger

September 26, 2016 - 19:36

Adam Sullivan

strawpoll.me/11311641
strawpoll.me/11311641
strawpoll.me/11311641

September 26, 2016 - 19:36

Adam King

Good line, I'll remember that.

September 26, 2016 - 19:37

Aaron Long

...

September 26, 2016 - 19:37

Zachary Hughes

...

September 26, 2016 - 19:37

Dylan Russell

Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, unless you're a voter, in which case you always lose.

September 26, 2016 - 19:38

Leo Russell

Jesus fucking christ we almost made it out without this shit. If shillary becomes president we're going to have 4 years of "they hate me because vagina".

September 26, 2016 - 19:38

David Clark

...

September 26, 2016 - 19:38

Dominic Carter

...

September 26, 2016 - 19:39

Jonathan Rodriguez

She ripped that line off from Jill Stein. Does Clinton have a shred of originality in her speech writers?

September 26, 2016 - 19:39

Adam Flores

GO DONALD WE LOVE YOU

September 26, 2016 - 19:40

Samuel James

Trump was clever to use that question as a closing statement. Hillary missed a trick there.

September 26, 2016 - 19:40

Henry Miller

This is it?

September 26, 2016 - 19:40

Henry Gonzalez

How dare you. Those speech writers came up with 'trumped up trickle down'!

September 26, 2016 - 19:41

Hudson Gray

remember that one time barnie defended castro in a debate

September 26, 2016 - 19:41

Jonathan Martinez

...

September 26, 2016 - 19:41

Andrew Hill

Interesting. I'm getting the impression Holla Forums thinks they were both shit, but perhaps with Trump in front
It appears Holla Forums thinks he lost - they're now claiming its rigged

September 26, 2016 - 19:41

Jordan Lopez

remember that one time Barnie called Kissinger a war criminal

September 26, 2016 - 19:42

Elijah Reyes

Bide your time, when the boomers die off things will change.

And they will probably die off because starving millennials kill them.

September 26, 2016 - 19:42

Evan Roberts

no use fantasizing about what could have been, this is the world we live in

September 26, 2016 - 19:42

Isaac Wilson

Well apparently both candidates survived their first fake debate without being assassinated. Disappointing.

September 26, 2016 - 19:43

Gabriel Rogers

i don't think shillary has ever bommebed a country because some fucking sailer gave her the bird

don't be stupid.
she's a war monger, but a strategic one.
Trump is just a bully

September 26, 2016 - 19:43

Aiden Jones

I think Trump was worse.

September 26, 2016 - 19:43

Alexander Ramirez

I'm bummed Jill Stein didn't suddenly streak across the stage tbh.

September 26, 2016 - 19:43

Dylan Price

I want to die

September 26, 2016 - 19:43

Oliver Bailey

anyone who really thinks a president Trump would be able to bomb anyone he wants is retarded. If he's president he'll have an entire cabinet of porkies to rein him in just like Clinton.

September 26, 2016 - 19:44

Lucas Morgan

...

September 26, 2016 - 19:45

Connor Lopez

Me too user, but there's work left to be done. Maybe you will die fighting when revolution comes.

September 26, 2016 - 19:46

Adrian Wood

They probably had ridiculously high expectations. IMO Trump won.

September 26, 2016 - 19:46

Nathan Green

What is he thinking?

September 26, 2016 - 19:47

Mason Gomez

Maybe Holla Forums should come up with a group project to work on. It doesn't have to accomplish anything at all, really, but for morale. Just to let us feel like we're doing something you know?

September 26, 2016 - 19:48

Evan Morales

Look at the bright side. Barnie's loss couldn't have been more useful from a propaganda angle. Barnie is a well-liked figure among a lot of people and he was completely screwed over by the DNC. I think that there's going to be a lot more prominent social-democratic/possibly even socialist politics in the U.S now. I bet there will be some significant left presence in the 2020 election year.

September 26, 2016 - 19:48

Austin Cruz

Trump got in a lot more good lines and even though he looked like kind of a fool with his shit grammar, he came off a lot more genuine. His fuck ups weren't nearly as bad either. She was talking out both sides of her mouth in the same sentence at some points, like is crime up or down, do we need more power for cops or less?

September 26, 2016 - 19:48

Josiah Torres

Still no word on the protest outside the debate eh?

September 26, 2016 - 19:49

Ayden Nguyen

The most watched debate in history was absolute shit. They said absolutely nothing.

September 26, 2016 - 19:49

Xavier Thompson

"Truly, this is the darkest timeline."

September 26, 2016 - 19:49

Leo Martin

Trump was weak most of the time. He should've been more aggressive. But the phrase from this debate that I remember is that Shillary has been powerful for many years and we are in this mess, or something like that. I think that's a stronger argument than anything Shillary can say

September 26, 2016 - 19:49

Noah Gomez

I want this.

September 26, 2016 - 19:50

Owen Jones

We already have some projects, people should contribute to Bunker mag for instance. Any new ideas?

September 26, 2016 - 19:51

Brayden King

Don't sit on the fence, I want to know who people think won.

September 26, 2016 - 19:51

Daniel Gonzalez

I mean even though I think Trump did better, it was a shitfight and they both looked bad. This is probably the most shameful presidential debate in this country's history. I hope I will live to see school children watching this on the historical record as an illustration of capitalism at its most absurd.

September 26, 2016 - 19:53

Jacob Nelson

trump looked pretty flustered and hillary made him look weak a lot too

September 26, 2016 - 19:55

Gavin Hernandez

"Fake and gay."

September 26, 2016 - 19:56

Nicholas Williams

Maybe because it just was shit in general, people see more of the stuff that looks bad to them. Holla Forums sees the fascist as the winner while Holla Forums sees their daddy as the loser.

September 26, 2016 - 19:57

Angel Murphy

I'm kind of new.. What's link to bunkermag? I read recently people said it's not still going or something.

I'd love to contribute.

September 26, 2016 - 19:57

Oliver Sanders

bunkermag.org

Please do contribute if you can. You don't have to write well, it's more important to have more content than to curate just the "best" content, especially with how sparse it is.

September 26, 2016 - 19:58

Michael Gray

"I wish I incited rebellion when I had the chance."

September 26, 2016 - 20:01

Cameron Long

Seems likely, with the planet warming up.

I can bet he feels hopeless.

September 26, 2016 - 20:01

Xavier Hernandez

"I may not live to see it, but the historical inevitability of communism means one day the streets will run red with the blood of these pigs."

September 26, 2016 - 20:03

Nathan Reed

Awesome. Thanks, user. I will contribute.

September 26, 2016 - 20:04

Chase Wilson

soon. soon they will understand.

September 26, 2016 - 20:04

Hudson Powell

This one wins.

September 26, 2016 - 20:04

Austin Lee

...

September 26, 2016 - 20:06

Luke Gonzalez

he really does look cucked in that pic

September 26, 2016 - 20:07

Ian Adams

>>>Holla Forums

September 26, 2016 - 20:11

Christopher Rogers

...

September 26, 2016 - 20:12

Jason Phillips

lol she's becoming Jill Stein!

September 26, 2016 - 20:29

Brandon Long

If there was still a major communist party, she would be saying we need to seize the means of production.

September 26, 2016 - 20:34

Adam Ward

Damn, that bitch is fucking angry.

September 26, 2016 - 20:34

Isaac Stewart

Fuck the DNC, so hard, for screwing B████.

He was so based & so needed in the US. He still did a lot of good, by radicalizing many, at least.

September 26, 2016 - 21:05

Andrew Wilson

Is anyone else getting that huge ass ad asking if you registered to vote on youtube?

The porky shilling is going all out.

September 26, 2016 - 21:19

Xavier Gomez

Who else is #WithHer now?

After Hillary doing so great during the debate and BTFOing Drumpf I've decided to vote for her since at least if she wins we'll be closer to globalism and globalism is the first step to a communist world order.

September 26, 2016 - 21:23

Dominic Hughes

I honestly don't think B████ would have done as good against him. The Democrats probably did themselves a solid by making sure Hilldog won the nom. She fucking butchered Trump.

He tried so many times to bait her by making meme zingers. But they all fell flat and she didn't even blink. She just carried on with her argument.

September 26, 2016 - 21:25

Jayden Watson

I can't tell if this is Holla Forums pretending to be CTR, Holla Forums attempting to be what they think Holla Forums is, or a Holla Forums pretending to be Holla Forums.

September 26, 2016 - 21:27

Dominic Watson

i lol'd thx

September 26, 2016 - 21:28

Oliver Thompson

i'm a clintoris now

September 26, 2016 - 21:30

James Anderson

lmao

September 26, 2016 - 21:32

Carter Davis

WHY DON'T YOU SUPPORT HILLARY CLINTON Holla Forums
WHY DO YOU HATE PEOPLE WITH CANCER

September 26, 2016 - 21:32

Mason Butler

I'm not #withher I'm just calling it like I see it. B████ was pretty 50/50 in his debates with her. I think he adapted really quickly though and got better with each debate. But he never looked as bad as Trump did tonight, that's for certain.

September 26, 2016 - 21:36

Alexander Gomez

Hell Holla Forums I am conducting a survey test.

How does this image make you feel.

September 26, 2016 - 21:37

Owen Gonzalez

ಠ_ಠ

September 26, 2016 - 21:44

Jason Gutierrez

This is the future we chose.

September 26, 2016 - 21:53

Dylan Adams

I thought I saw that 2nd one in an image somewhere. Turns out it's the cover for a pretty solid dark ambient album.
The more u know.

September 26, 2016 - 21:57

Kayden Taylor

Reminder that nigger violence at 80k household income class is four times that of whites at 40k household income.

September 26, 2016 - 21:58

Liam Bailey

no man, thats just learning the secrets of the illuinati but you cant tell anyone otherwise you wake up suicded with 3 gun shots to the back of the head.

September 26, 2016 - 22:00

Brandon Green

This is the future the financial elites that use their power to undermine democracy chose.

September 26, 2016 - 22:00

Ian Roberts

holy shit bless your heart Holla Forums

September 26, 2016 - 22:01

Julian Gomez

I swear if I ever saw this cocksucker out on the street I'd break his nose.

September 26, 2016 - 22:08

Ryder Howard

It made me feel like it needed some improvement.

Much better now.

September 26, 2016 - 22:10

Jack Perez

Youre just playing with semantics. There's 0 excuse for this blatant denial of reality.

September 26, 2016 - 22:23

Nolan Richardson

...

September 26, 2016 - 22:29

Adrian Jackson

There is. Google income and happiness studies.

September 26, 2016 - 22:32

Aiden Cooper

JUSSSSSSSSSSSSST

September 26, 2016 - 22:33

Sebastian Morgan

Lmao. Spoken like someone who hasn't been in either bracket. There's little difference. You're still struggling, either way.

Source on that claim, btw. You're not taking into account the neighborhoods, etc. Many factors contribute to violence.

September 26, 2016 - 22:37

Camden Cook

What the fuck does that have to do with murdering people?

September 26, 2016 - 22:37

Jonathan Reyes

...

September 26, 2016 - 22:40

Mason Green

Holla Forums is dumb, Trump won.

September 26, 2016 - 22:49

Alexander Nguyen

youtube.com/watch?v=hFnRy-06X40

Based Jimmy Dore

"Hillary Supporter Stunned By Woman Of Color, Kshama Sawant Speaks Truth"

September 26, 2016 - 22:50

Brody Perez

And based-as-always Sawant, as well, of course.

September 26, 2016 - 22:51

Blake Lewis

youtube.com/watch?v=2-yZbjZ_VOo

Sourced vid

September 26, 2016 - 23:10

Xavier Torres

aren't there only 3 ?, is he a zombie or something ?

September 26, 2016 - 23:11

Charles Evans

Stage 3 is spreading to the local lymph nodes, stage 4 is distant ones. My dad has stage 4, it's a real thing though it is a bit arbitrary. It just says whether or not it's able to be dealt with surgically.

September 26, 2016 - 23:13

Mason Brooks

I think stage 4 is knocking at death's door

September 26, 2016 - 23:13

Brayden Flores

My grandpa had stage 4 brain cancer. Sorry to hear about your father, user. Just like we always should, make the most of the time you have with him.

September 26, 2016 - 23:15

Julian Jackson

In terms of quality of life, there's a huge difference. Lay off the memes.

researchgate.net/publication/294733608_Race_Wealth_and_Incarceration_Results_from_the_National_Longitudinal_Survey_of_Youth

By the logic of your pic, the average white and the average black have the same socioeconomic advantages.

September 26, 2016 - 23:23

Alexander Thompson

There's obviously some differences within the vast majority of people but it's massively less than the difference between them and someone who controls capital.

September 26, 2016 - 23:30

Charles Nelson

Oh wow, there's a study that shows those who are incarcerated tend to make less money. What a novel observation!

Lmfao, you linked to a study that highlights systemic racism/incarceration of poor citizens.

Fuck off. You obviously don't have a grasp on the day to day reality of low wage earners.

September 26, 2016 - 23:33

Tyler Jones

Also, ctrl+f "violence". No results.

September 26, 2016 - 23:34

Julian Ortiz

Yeah duh, but this whole argument started because blamed race inequality on class

September 26, 2016 - 23:35

Mason Wood

I'd still agree with him - the majority of middle class to upper middle class (in terms of earnings) black people are not going to be old money, thus they're going to have a higher chance of having trauma that will repeat itself. It's still related to material conditions broe.

September 26, 2016 - 23:38

Ayden Hill

So I take it that you can't read?

September 26, 2016 - 23:41

Carson Ross

This kind of thinking might work if the blacks who used to be poor were not committing crime at higher rates than whites who still are poor.

September 26, 2016 - 23:46

Dominic Rodriguez

Meaning there's likely a racist component/profiling or a social component which explains this. Why else would this be the case? But I don't think you're willing to understand why this is, you just want to point it out without caring about the causes.

And that study says nothing whatsoever about violence, which you claim. "Nigger violence", as you put it.

September 26, 2016 - 23:50

Jaxon Bailey

committing crimes =/= violent

September 26, 2016 - 23:50

Sebastian Cox

Also, this study started in 1979. Racial profiling was prevalent & had yet to reach its peak, even. It's laughable to link to this study as an argument for violent blacks. You're banking on people just not reading it, I guess.

September 26, 2016 - 23:54

Caleb Perez

I was working and missed the debate. As I haven't seen any news about Hilary shitting her pants, I take it was uneventful?

September 27, 2016 - 00:08

Daniel Powell

dunno why I ever went there, jesus the shilling is awful

September 27, 2016 - 00:10

Colton Smith

reddit is shit because the only posts that get upvoted/seen are ones that were posted first

September 27, 2016 - 00:13

Zachary Thompson

fix'd

September 27, 2016 - 00:15

Jordan Brooks

Locking up people became a business, so people are arrested for bullshit "crimes", its the whole reason why we are ending private prisons, making the US having most people in jail per capital in history and the consequences of this is ruining many peoples lives.

September 27, 2016 - 00:17

Dylan Roberts

youtube.com/watch?v=aUbzT25kZ6s

Hahahaha, it's so funny be cause its true

⌐╦╦═─(; _ ; )

September 27, 2016 - 00:21

Daniel Kelly

Ok, nm. I apologize in advance for doing that to you guys.

September 27, 2016 - 00:22

Ethan Hill

Hillary Clinton is a Flawed Candidate – Just Like God
forward.com/opinion/350768/hillary-clinton-is-a-flawed-candidate-just-like-god/

September 27, 2016 - 01:42

Josiah Harris

You can really start to see liberal porkies sweating bullets in this election now.

September 27, 2016 - 01:56

Logan Hughes

WHAT THE FUUUUUUUCK

September 27, 2016 - 01:58

Easton Barnes

They actually likened her to god.

It just doesn't get better then this now we have god emperor trump and Feminist Goddess Clinton

they are goin hard on the bread and circuses

September 27, 2016 - 02:04

Angel Brooks

>gets tentacle raped loved

September 27, 2016 - 02:12

Austin Barnes

bustin makes me feel good

I'm chodemonkey and I can't program because I'm too busy eating shit

September 27, 2016 - 02:32

Ryder Cox

bustin makes me feel good

I'm chodemonkey and I can't program because I'm too busy eating shit
I'm chodemonkey and I can't program because I'm too busy eating shit

September 27, 2016 - 02:33

Mason Morales

wsws.org/en/articles/2016/09/27/deba-s27.html

By Patrick Martin
27 September 2016

September 27, 2016 - 02:37

Connor Ramirez

(checked)
I'd just yell NINE ELEVEN NINE ELEVEN NINE ELEVEN NINE ELEVEN I WAS MAYOR ON NINE ELEVEN NINE ELEVEN I POSED NEXT TO SOME RUBBLE SO GIVE ME A POLITICAL CAREER NINE ELEVEN NINE ELEVEN NINE ELEVEN whenever he tried to speak

September 27, 2016 - 02:37

Caleb Lee

...

September 27, 2016 - 02:39

Connor Moore

Oh, shit.
It's actually using a Jewish interpretation of God, too.

September 27, 2016 - 02:49

Jayden Nguyen

My Gott

September 27, 2016 - 03:05

Robert Johnson

fixed

September 27, 2016 - 03:11

Blake Green

In 2008 we had black Jesus, now we have God incarnate, what will be next?

September 27, 2016 - 03:14

Dylan Ward

I was really hoping this sort of behavior would be confined entirely to innertubes Trump memelords, but I guess the arch-normalfags that make up the Clinton camp are going full ouroboros in the fart sniffing department.

September 27, 2016 - 03:31

Christopher Phillips

lol wtf was that debate

I kept hearing how clinton was the policy master and how she would tear trump apart with her expert knowledge

and then she makes hardly any policy statements

all I got from the debate was hillary will raise tax, trump will lower tax

then the for the other hour and 20 min they just flung shit at each other

american politics never fails to disappoint

September 27, 2016 - 04:57

Camden Torres

Yeah, this was the first American debate I actually watched and it was full of nothing. I was expecting at least an entertaining clown show.

September 27, 2016 - 05:22

Jace Murphy

Really? I thought Clinton was just as bad. The only way she won was to let Trump keep talking himself into the ground. Anyone who just watched just the beginning of the debate will think Trump killed it.

September 27, 2016 - 05:33

Carson Campbell

So Election Justice USA, the election integrity group formed after the Arizona Democratic primary, is going to have a "Teach-in" today with a big livestream covering the various ways in which the US's shitty elections can be and are hacked. Starts at 6pm PST.

facebook.com/ElectionJusticeUSA/

September 27, 2016 - 05:47

Jace James

That's a really West Coast-oriented time; they should have thought about starting it earlier. They're going to end up losing a sizable audience of people on the East who need to sleep.

September 27, 2016 - 05:52

Asher Anderson

Wooswoos articles give me the feeling of deja vu.

September 27, 2016 - 06:19

Noah Thomas

...

September 27, 2016 - 06:49

Jeremiah Ross

even Muke would whip these two fucks. I was thinking about how B████ ██████ or me or Secular Talk or even Cenk would shit all over both of them.

September 27, 2016 - 07:09

David Jenkins

I… just… can't…

September 27, 2016 - 07:18

Chase Morgan

Don't they need 15% to get in the debates? I'm sure the CPD would find a way to exclude them anyway.

September 27, 2016 - 08:53

Mason Parker

Yes and yes. youtube.com/watch?v=6cXfRNdvr_s

September 27, 2016 - 08:56

Jacob Myers

I was talking about in the national election, not polling

September 27, 2016 - 09:15

Adrian Diaz

Nope. The private corporation that runs that set of debates only cares about corporate media polls of questionable veracity.

September 27, 2016 - 09:49

Ethan Kelly

Nevermind, /reading comprehension

September 27, 2016 - 09:50

Xavier Phillips

np, but I agree about the polling. It's bullshit; run by the GOP & DNC, right? Laughable, if that's the case, to expect them to be fair.

September 27, 2016 - 10:10

Lucas Jenkins

Is the polling coming out of the US media? If yes, it's probably bullshit - ignore it entirely. If no, check its sources. There you go.

September 27, 2016 - 10:12

Colton Richardson

make it stop

September 27, 2016 - 14:52

Wyatt Diaz

Did Hillary Clinton actually mention any policies relating to income inequality? I remember she went off about the economy being an "unfair economy" and used Barnie Saunders' talking points, but I don't recall her mentioning what she would do about it.

September 27, 2016 - 16:50

Camden Scott

The freedom of speech is strong with that pic.

September 27, 2016 - 16:54

Henry Campbell

She said that she would increase the min wage.

September 27, 2016 - 16:54

Joshua Jones

No Gods, no masters

September 27, 2016 - 17:01

Andrew Watson

That's too bad. Increasing minimum wage won't do anything good because it will just inflate prices and temporarily inconvenience smaller businesses. I suppose she didn't propose taxing the rich?

September 27, 2016 - 17:06

Liam Gonzalez

She did. But she never did really say how much during the debate. It's like a 4% increase.

September 27, 2016 - 17:09

Andrew Murphy

it also changes every time she talks about, and has no chance of implementation anyway so who cares

September 27, 2016 - 17:14

Jonathan Gray

Didn't Trump say it was the largest tax increase of all time? I guess she let that slide because she didn't want to talk about how measly it really is. It's probably full of loopholes too.

September 27, 2016 - 17:14

Kevin Lopez

Election Justice livestream "Teach-in" starts in 40 minutes.

twitch.tv/electionjustice

September 27, 2016 - 17:21

Julian Price

Remember, the primary function of minimum wage isn't actually the direct increase of poor workers' income, but instead the elimination of parasitic employers from the job market.

If a job doesn't pay enough for someone to support themselves (legally defined as living above the poverty-line), that logically means the job is being subsidized by its employees' other income-streams, and is a net loss to the economy.

September 27, 2016 - 17:28

Kevin Morgan

Can you elaborate further? I'm not sure I follow your logic.

September 27, 2016 - 17:34

Hudson Butler

Jill Stein "debates" Clinton and Trump over Democracy Now:

youtube.com/watch?v=Gmu2glcDqJ0

September 27, 2016 - 17:43

Ryder White

...

September 27, 2016 - 17:45

Connor Lewis

How dare you.

September 27, 2016 - 17:49

Asher Cook

Raising the minimum wage will get people off welfare first and foremost. The inflation myth is only partially true because for it to be completely true the entire population would have to be minimum wage.
Thanks for not understanding how the economy works at all though.

September 27, 2016 - 17:57

Ian Carter

Such desperation reminds me of "Vote Man".

September 27, 2016 - 18:02

Jason Lewis

...

September 27, 2016 - 18:04

Colton Hill

It's intermediary but it's important.

September 27, 2016 - 18:06

David Butler

Wow they sure fucked up the audio. Way to go guys.

September 27, 2016 - 18:08

Isaac Perry

...

September 27, 2016 - 18:09

Camden Johnson

The purpose of spending, say, an hour of your life at a given profession instead of doing something else, is that it offers enough monetary compensation for you and your dependents to acquire housing, food, and safety. Since many employers don't actually pay enough, yet their employees haven't all been living on the streets, gone extinct, or starved to death, this logically means their employees must be supplementing their income with other sources like welfare, debt, gifts from family/friends, excessive hours, etc…

From a broad economic perspective, these supplementations to their employees' income function as subsidies to the "business", which allows them to undercut competitors, or even to provide a product consumers want so little that it couldn't sell if sold at cost! In other words, below-poverty-line "jobs" are a form of anticompetitive "dumping" at best, and an embezzlement scheme at worst.

Even without wage labor, there will still be economically unproductive activities pretending to be otherwise in order to siphon away resources. Allow too many to persist, and the entire economy will collapse.

September 27, 2016 - 18:13

Luis Rodriguez

Frogposting?

September 27, 2016 - 18:14

Lucas Rogers

They finally fixed it, after 15 minutes. How embarrassing.

September 27, 2016 - 18:16

Isaiah Morris

frogposting.

September 27, 2016 - 18:18

Robert Nguyen

Lol I hate people who tune out of society entirely thinking that it "doesn't matter" just because it probably won't get you socialism. Like, yeah, it matters, it's about improving the human condition in the meantime.

September 27, 2016 - 18:29

Jordan Martinez

Improving material conditions are more likely to keep people complacent for the status quo tbh. I'm just partly shitposting. I understand why people are invested in this, but working within the system doesn't work in the end dude.

September 27, 2016 - 18:39

Kevin Brown

I look at the life of the average pleb my ancestors suffered through before the enlightenment, or even just a century ago, and I can't help but feel proud of what was accomplished, even if it's just crumbs compared to what they thought they were fighting for.

I also look at the fruits of basically every single violent revolution, and see (with a tiny handful of exceptions) lurches back to the status quo at best, pointless devastation and failure at worst.

I truly wish there was another way, but to paraphrase: Reformism is the worst possible form of movement, except for every other form. The only reliably good uses of revolution are as bluffing leverage for reform.

September 27, 2016 - 18:57

Ryder Miller

I'm sure the oppressed and impoverished appreciate you trying to make their life worse. Really makes them want to join your side.

September 27, 2016 - 18:59

Dominic Miller

No, you either gotta work all the way inside the system or all the way outside it. It's why Dem entryism and groups like SAlt have produced results but the Greens haven't. When people say working within the system doesn't work they mean what the Greens are trying to do. SAlt is basically trying to get rid of the system even if they do have an electoral branch and Dem entryists are trying to mold the playing field to be more advantageous to them, but the Greens are fucked long-term because they're doing neither.

Nothing about life being slightly easier for people who will never ever be revolutionaries for one reason or another impedes the process of spreading the word and outrage about private property and capitalism. The simple fact is that capitalism is going to grant concessions to proles with or without proles actively agitating for them over socialism because like you said they're trying to preserve themselves. Unfortunately for them, making the bills easier to pay isn't going to make Cletus hate his boss any less or Jamal any less fucked over. The problems of capitalism go much, much further than "in capitalism I can't pay my bills". Capitalism creates the entire condition. Just use everything else to your advantage instead. Instead of telling people they're only broke because their boss wants them to be, tell them they only have to pay bills to begin with because capitalism wants it that way. Tell them their cousin is only in jail for pot because capitalism wants it that way. Tell them that their job sucks because capitalism wants it that way.

I hate how much I agree with this. Of course, nonviolent revolution could be different.

September 27, 2016 - 19:00

Connor Flores

They only have two chances left to smear Trump before election day. All Trump has to do is stay cool and not get frustrated. I think he's keen enough to do it. Also Minnesota is tied for Hilary and Trump now, as is Michegan and Wisconsin. Hilary is going to get fucked hard if midwestern Progressives stay home.

It sort of makes me want to cry, thinking about how we could have had S█████. Oh well.

September 27, 2016 - 19:02

Connor Foster

Reformism is a valid option, get your head out of your ass.

September 27, 2016 - 19:06

Noah Rodriguez

I'm betting that Trump will outperform the polls due to higher turnout from his supporters. That's how the Brexit referendum was won. And I don't recall very well, but I think Obama also benefited heavily from this in 2012. The polls said he was going to win by a tiny margin, but he won comfortably thanks to the greater enthusiasm of his base.

September 27, 2016 - 19:10

Josiah Howard

You guys are giving me the whole, "Porky will hand over his shit if we ask nicely." crap. I frankly disagree. It is precisely because of the alleviation of material conditions that allowed class struggle and socialist movements to lose the spotlight across America in my opinion. The Great Depression was ripe for more class consciousness across the nation, but what happened? The New Deal set up the social programs that allowed Americans to live in relative peace for the next 40 years. In the end we have those same porkies whittling down said reforms. These marginal increases, these marginal concessions will only change depending on what capitalism deems necessary to allow it to survive.

It's a ping pong game that I think is useless to participate in.

September 27, 2016 - 19:29

Jayden Collins

Ror that's not our argument at all. We just don't think agitating for better conditions now while agitating for socialism in the future don't contradict.

September 27, 2016 - 19:31

Dylan Wood

'tis a futile gesture lad.

September 27, 2016 - 19:36

John Williams

How do you expect to convince the common man that revolution is the only way without proving reform is no possible?

September 27, 2016 - 19:38

Josiah Hernandez

I have no specific plan for this, but I believe it go along the lines of pointing out the lack of change for the better between each election, and then telling him how the people at the top will stop at nothing to maintain their power regardless of what we do in the system. The only way to change would be a complete upheaval of current society by force and in this case capitalism.

September 27, 2016 - 19:44

Hudson Hall

I think that's a needlessly pessimistic appraisal of history. Contrary to the accelerationist/decelerationist conception, I look at the history of power shifting from the exploiters to the masses, and I see each concession we gain as giving us more power to reach for more, while taking power away from the ruling class, making their future attempts to clamp down on us weaker than before. Sure, backslides like our current bout of neolib/neocon antipopulism happen, but the overall sawtooth graph of history shows us slowly climbing, them slowly crumbling piece by piece.

Because revolution isn't the only way, it is merely a way, much like reform. Both paths must be open to pursuit.

September 27, 2016 - 19:49

Jaxon Nelson

But if there is no-one trying to create change(reform) for you to show that it doesn't work what then?

That's why even though you may support and ultimately want revolution perusing further and further more radical reforms until they fail completely so that you can point to it and say there is the locked door now we must knock it down with revolution is, at least in my mind, preferable

September 27, 2016 - 19:50

Landon Bailey

Both must be open to pursuit but the only way for revolution to succeed is for its supporters to prove that reform will not get the proles any further

September 27, 2016 - 19:52

Tyler Russell

Revolution isn't the goal, a new system is. There are situations when revolution is the best way forward, and situations when it isn't.

Don't end up like "survivalists" that are dishonest about "prepping" for disaster, when what they obviously care more about is the hope of "shtf" "happening", because they're really just doom cultists.

September 27, 2016 - 20:00

Brody Torres

no revolution is not the goal i understand that all im saying is that in the situation where revolution is the best option if there is still a path of reform to pursue it will never happen

September 27, 2016 - 20:03

Kevin Lewis

I suppose I can see that, but with the level of control that porky has on the media, textbooks, the cultural narrative in general, I don't know if reform can really get any further than at best socdem. Those in power hold all the cards and will not just sit there while we take power. Barney Santa was the MOST moderate Social Democrat you could be, but the Dems resorted to deliberate manipulation of the media and other dirty tricks to make him lose.

September 27, 2016 - 20:03

Dominic James

youtube.com/watch?v=y-WYZIdNEnE

September 27, 2016 - 20:06

Asher Taylor

Reformism is the force that finally toppled the totalitarian monarchs and theocrats of antiquity, modern porky is a lightweight by comparison.

September 27, 2016 - 20:08

Jaxon Hernandez

I don't know what to say man. I think you underestimate the power and influence of porky. Lobbying, vote tampering, media manipulation, etc.

I dunno. I still feel there is no option left but revolution at this rate.

September 27, 2016 - 20:19

William Ortiz

No I'm pretty sure that was violent revolution.

Reformism only shirks the burden of oppression to the proles of the future, satisfied with the pleasures of their own flesh at the expense of countless others. Not my comrades.

September 27, 2016 - 20:56

Juan Martinez

Your straw men of Greens are getting a little worn, tbh fam.

September 27, 2016 - 21:22

Jacob Stewart

baltimoregazette.com/clinton-received-debate-questions-week-debate/

No wonder she sounded so scripted.

September 27, 2016 - 21:34

Blake Young

D E B A T E S

September 27, 2016 - 21:36

James Bennett

Is you serious nigga? Even ignoring shitshows like The Terror and Napoleon, the revolution failed so hard absolute monarchy was reinstated! The only example I can think of being any more absurdly inept was the British Civil War and the rise of Cromwell.

September 27, 2016 - 22:38

Jacob Price

Fake and gay. Check Snopes.

September 27, 2016 - 22:52

Nolan Powell

Mention of Dunning-Kruger in any subjective context is an instant red light that the person I'm conversing with is a dishonest little twerp, it's completely circular and unsuited to use in arguments.

September 28, 2016 - 00:03

Caleb Torres

...

September 28, 2016 - 00:47

Jaxson Robinson

...

September 28, 2016 - 00:50

Jonathan Wilson

Tbh, Snopes is shit. They're hit & miss.

September 28, 2016 - 01:37

Ryan Murphy

this isn't even a real news site. you idiots will believe fucking anything

September 28, 2016 - 01:57

Luke Morris

wsws.org/en/articles/2016/09/28/pers-s28.html

28 September 2016

September 28, 2016 - 02:08

Isaac Campbell

Patrick Martin

September 28, 2016 - 02:08

Cooper Cox

user, it's a guy and his wife with their own agenda writing those articles.
They were selective with their 'debunking' of the Clinton tapes regarding the rape case she helped her client get off. Anybody that went and watched the full tape would plainly see that they avoided the content that contradicted their position.

September 28, 2016 - 02:23

Kevin Perez

Does the ride ever end?

September 28, 2016 - 02:41

Jaxson Wood

H-How?

September 28, 2016 - 02:47

Brayden Morales

By inserting Kool-Aid drinkers inside the staff:
eff.org/deeplinks/2015/01/facing-challenge-online-harassment

Note that one of the "solutions" to the "human rights issue" of online "harassment" directly linked to in the above article, Block Together, is written by another EFF staffer (also a former Twatter employee) and modeled after Randi "Methwhale" Harper's GGAutoBlocker.

September 28, 2016 - 03:41

Luke Bell

Jesus Christ.

How does anybody go about unfucking that victim narrative, when it shields the worst abuses of censorship with an ostensibly virtuous goal?

September 28, 2016 - 04:37

Daniel Wood

Damn, Voteman likes 'em THICC!

September 28, 2016 - 06:23

Asher Richardson

read 'designated' and chuckled. I miss crustacea/n/.

September 28, 2016 - 07:38

Austin Watson

Shit, what happened to Snopes?

"I wonder when Holla Forumsmer fuckey will photoshop an image from their 20-yopobyte interracial cuckporn hoard onto the TV in this image"

September 28, 2016 - 08:17

Elijah Sanchez

youtube.com/watch?v=ZIL38se8nzM&app=desktop

Comey getting grilled and salty as fuck

September 28, 2016 - 08:24

Alexander Murphy

Chaffetz giving Comey the business

September 28, 2016 - 08:34

Nolan Taylor

Give this a look regarding Snopes: youtu.be/WGf5_N6zwaE

September 28, 2016 - 10:49

Noah Miller

You're right on all counts user, but as it happens, they're right that the Baltimore Gazette is the source of a lot of fake stories.

To further elaborate, an EFF gimp chumming it up with Nee Nee and other socjus thought leaders. They really were pushing the cyberviolence bullshit hard, until that UN panel blew up spectacularly.

archive.is/jrzuA

Also Cory Doctorow is an advisor, and he's well within the clique.

I wish I knew, user, I really do. Other than waiting for it to collapse on itself, the only effective measure against it that I can see is a Trump presidency, and I would really prefer that it doesn't come to that.

September 28, 2016 - 16:08

Brody Smith

The hegemonic order is imploding.

SOON

September 28, 2016 - 16:48

Adam Perez

Long before SJWs became a big problem he was already a pretentious lolcow in the tech world. Even speaking as an über-fedora who thinks all postmodernists are subhuman mystical bullshitters who should be forcefed their own vacuous "literature" until their stomachs burst, I hold Cory as barely a rung below Eliezer Yudkowsky on the cringe scale.

September 28, 2016 - 20:47

Parker Wright

I recall being laughing at his books in forums of yore. What really stuck in my mind was a line about glass-cutting boners.

That's a perfectly reasonable and healthy opinion, nothing fedora about it.

September 28, 2016 - 21:01

Adam Wood

youtube.com/watch?v=LB24HRAbm8M

cringe

September 29, 2016 - 01:35

Brody Evans

archive.is/1dIvM
DAE think Shillary is literally the savior of the black community?

September 29, 2016 - 12:54

Aaron Cooper

I was bored

September 29, 2016 - 14:18

Ryan Wright

she also saves people from not supporting the US by bombing them
obviously she's good at finding innovative solutions to complex non-problems
a wonderful role-model for our daughters

September 29, 2016 - 14:19

Jason Richardson

I'm not seeing any other threads about it, so I'm posting it here

theregister.co.uk/2016/09/29/four_states_sue_us_government_to_prevent_internet_handover/

Very important info.

September 29, 2016 - 18:19

Angel Parker

This deserves its own thread.

September 29, 2016 - 18:44

Elijah Hall

Damn.

September 29, 2016 - 19:07

Hunter Nelson

Whew, at least my state didn't embarrass itself this time.

September 29, 2016 - 19:23

Isaac Brooks

ohgodthatcompletelysoundslikesomestupidshittexaswoulddo-
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

September 29, 2016 - 19:45

Hudson Wright

avclub.com/article/pepe-frogs-creator-voting-hillary-isnt-sure-what-h-243335

reddit.com/r/politics/comments/55420h/pepe_the_frogs_creator_is_voting_hillary_isnt/

:^) please end my suffering

September 29, 2016 - 23:06

Aiden Phillips

Jimmy Dore shitting all over his stupid "lefty" guests and they still refuse to get it
youtube.com/watch?v=sBmxoKd4ZL0

September 30, 2016 - 04:42

Evan Green

These elections have been the biggest shitshow I have seen, and it seems every imageboard has gone to shit so hard that makes 2011 look like the golden age.
I wonder how much that oculus rift guy is behind that shit.

September 30, 2016 - 05:10

Blake Reed

American politics truly reminds me of some reality show. Especially with some debate ads I saw mimicking WWE-type ads. And now Holla Forums tier memes like this are being discussed on major american new networks? Strange world.

September 30, 2016 - 05:57

Ayden Robinson

wew lad

September 30, 2016 - 06:37

William Cooper

All those cyberbullies that attacked her on twitter are really going to regret it

September 30, 2016 - 06:50

Jayden Flores

If you think it's bad now, just wait until one of these jackasses becomes president.

All of pent up frustration caused by this election is going to explode.

September 30, 2016 - 07:04

Ryan Murphy

The loss of the Onion is the most saddening casualty of this whole election.

September 30, 2016 - 07:22

Sebastian Reed

This election has been nothing but loss.

September 30, 2016 - 07:53

Matthew Robinson

thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/298549-clinton-campaign-rolls-out-40-more-gop-endorsements
Clinton camp gets another 40 endorsements from big name republicans

September 30, 2016 - 08:46

Joseph Jones

reddit.com/r/politics/comments/554n8m/four_us_states_demand_restraining_order_to_stop/d88gjas

So we shouldn't be worried about the ICANN deal? Someone who can into internet computers tell me pls.

I'm going to read further, but I haven't slept all night & want others' input as well.

September 30, 2016 - 09:35

Luke Rivera

Not that kinda dude, but I'm hearing it basically means that individual nation states will have full control over their internet within their borders. It may cut down on copyright BD from the US and maybe NSA, but it also means depending on where you live you may see more censorship.

I think.

September 30, 2016 - 09:41

Levi Thompson

Holla Forums and 4/g/ aren't talking about it, so I'll just assume it's not actually a problem

September 30, 2016 - 09:55

Lucas Mitchell

Trump is Putin, Kim Jong Un, and ISIS all at the same time
archive.is/e1mpR
T. Cracked.com

September 30, 2016 - 13:46

Evan Walker

holy shit this is brilliant bait.

September 30, 2016 - 14:00

Nicholas Turner

>>>Holla Forums656935

September 30, 2016 - 14:05

Matthew Jenkins

This is on page 3 and is about it

Look more closely before shitting up unrelated threads next time pls.

September 30, 2016 - 14:06

Jack Wilson

Are a lot Americans actually susceptible to shit like that? As a non-American it's pretty scary seeing the aggressiveness of pro-Clinton propaganda. I mean, to me a lot of these things are even too insane to caricature, it's unimaginable and unbelievable. It feels unreal.

September 30, 2016 - 14:11

Grayson Myers

no, us freedom loving Americans would never fall for propaganda. And our pro-freedom corporate media would never lie to us.
I've met people who seriously think that US media can't be propaganda by definition because it isn't owned by the government
fucking kill me

September 30, 2016 - 14:45

Xavier Peterson

The average American has become almost totally disengaged from the political process and receives only what is filtered to them via their coworkers or their newsfeed or their tv. They don't seem to judge things based on facts or information, but whether or not what they're told fits their personal biases or what they otherwise want to believe. The most susceptible to this I think are the over 40 set that still get their news from old media. You know, tv news, newspapers, magazines, nonsense like that. Younger people more jacked into the matrix seem slightly more aware since information is brought right to them and it tends to be slightly more varied than the monotonized spew issuing forth from the big networks. They aren't immune, of course, but I don't think it's a coincidence that younger people tended to go for someone practically unheard of like B████, and now for candidates like Stein and Johnson, while older classcucks citizens support either the Dems or Reps.

From my experience at least, people seem to be buying the Clinton propaganda. The news just regurgitates whatever bullshit talking points over and over uncritically and people absorb it as background radiation. Russia is a good example. Despite the fact that none of the culprits responsible for the recent email hacks have been identified, the TV news just keeps repeating it over and over. They'll slip words like allegedly and rumored and other weasel words in there, but they uncritically present Russia as the evil Other meddling in America's sacred democracy.

So yeah, if you're worried, you have good reason to be.

September 30, 2016 - 14:47

Carson Evans

But it's similar here in Eastern Europe when it comes to people's political engagement, they're passive and reliant on mainstream media as well, while the youth seems even more shallow and consumerist, more so than what I'm seeing in America this year.

What actually surprises me about America is that in my country only the most right wing party uses such blatant propaganda as Clinton does and most people laugh at them when they do this. The ruling center-right party is much more subtle, which makes it worse because then a lot of people believe them, and I though Clinton would be subtle as well. I know this might sound like something coming from Holla Forums, but Clinton's propaganda is basically liberal content in a fascist form, the techniques are very similar at least.

September 30, 2016 - 15:32

Aiden White

Guccifer was Romanian at least and there's a good possibility Guccifer 2.0 is too. Even if some happen to be Russian however, there is no evidence whatsoever that any of these hacks involved state actors. Proclaiming that it's some foreign state government behind these hacks is just blatant jingoism.

September 30, 2016 - 16:23

Thomas Myers

theintercept.com/2016/09/30/hillary-clinton-center-right/
leaked audio reveals Shillary Clinton thinks she's center-left

September 30, 2016 - 17:13

Landon Ward

lol

September 30, 2016 - 17:25

Adrian Clark

LEAKED AUDIO REVEALS CLINTON ATTACKING S*NDERS SUPPORTER SAYING THEY LIVE IN PARENTS BASEMENT

politico.com/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-supporters-audio-leak-228997

September 30, 2016 - 19:41

Charles Diaz

FORGET YOUR STRUGGLES, WORK FOR THE MOTHERLAND
archive.is/gE6hA

September 30, 2016 - 20:17

Gabriel Robinson

I asked a question & you helped answer it. Not shitting up a thread & it's related to US politics as well.

October 1, 2016 - 00:47

Justin Moore

CLINTON: "Some are new to politics completely. They’re children of the Great Recession. And they are living in their parents’ basement. They feel they got their education and the jobs that are available to them are not at all what they envisioned for themselves. And they don’t see much of a future. I met with a group of young black millennials today and you know one of the young women said, “You know, none of us feel that we have the job that we should have gotten out of college. And we don’t believe the job market is going to give us much of a chance.” So that is a mindset that is really affecting their politics. And so if you’re feeling like you’re consigned to, you know, being a barista, or you know, some other job that doesn’t pay a lot, and doesn’t have some other ladder of opportunity attached to it, then the idea that maybe, just maybe, you could be part of a political revolution is pretty appealing. So I think we should all be really understanding of that and should try to do the best we can not to be, you know, a wet blanket on idealism. We want people to be idealistic. We want them to set big goals. But to take what we can achieve now and try to present them as bigger goals."

October 1, 2016 - 00:58

Benjamin Parker

Eh, nothing wrong with expanding Americorps (or the Peace Corps, for that matter). IMHO they should both be funded to the point where as many qualified people as wish to can join, and advertising/outreach at least on par with the military.

October 1, 2016 - 01:30

Blake Sanchez

nerdsforher.com/
look at this.
christ did not die for this.

October 1, 2016 - 09:21

Evan Brooks

Why.

And Trump would clearly be the Slytherin choice for president.

October 1, 2016 - 09:26

Brayden Perry

So much cancer!

October 1, 2016 - 09:33

Andrew Sullivan

slytherins are supposed to be motivated by pure ambition.
They'd love Hillary.

October 1, 2016 - 09:33

Jose Evans

DEAR LEADER
when the fuck did I wake up in the Democratic People's Republic of America

October 1, 2016 - 09:41

Wyatt Stewart

Trump runs on pure ambition too, let's be honest. And the whole pure blood thing slots in well with his supporters.

October 1, 2016 - 09:43

Christopher Rodriguez

telesurtv.net/english/news/Angela-Davis-Suggests-Trump-Threat-Too-Dire-to-Not-Vote-Clinton-20161001-0006.html
Fucking Angela Davis says that not voting for Clinton is narcissistic and that you need to stop Trump "at all costs."
Are there ANY American leftists with integrity left?

October 1, 2016 - 11:07

Ian Hughes

god fucking damn it

October 1, 2016 - 11:47

Nathaniel Price

Not if we know what'd good for us

October 1, 2016 - 11:53

Blake Butler

Not surprising tbh

October 1, 2016 - 12:05

Austin Hughes

I'm honestly going to throw up after seeing this. What in the everloving fuck, you guys?

October 1, 2016 - 13:07

Jose Anderson

...

October 1, 2016 - 13:39

Luis Torres

Can you imagine?

October 1, 2016 - 14:18

Christian Jenkins

Progressives doing black outreach (This group has 100,000 members)

October 1, 2016 - 14:20

Henry Sullivan

theguardian.com/politics/2016/oct/01/nigel-farage-donald-trump-ukip-presidential-debate-us
Nigel Farage may or may not be coaching Trump for future debates.
Will anyone in America actually care if he does?

October 1, 2016 - 14:25

Ayden Reyes

nerdsforher.com/about/

October 1, 2016 - 14:26

Blake Edwards

What do you guys think? Is she mocking S█████ supporters, or trying to sympathize? I'm inclined to not give her the benefit of the doubt.

October 1, 2016 - 14:26

Jordan Lewis

Most Americans don't even know who he is.

October 1, 2016 - 14:27

Blake Campbell

So like B████? He got way less media coverage and was going against an established politician, and still managed to get 40% of the vote.

October 1, 2016 - 14:28

Cooper Robinson

And so is the actor who plays her

October 1, 2016 - 14:30

Mason Jenkins

Fuck.

JUSSSSSST

October 1, 2016 - 14:34

Charles Sanders

...

October 1, 2016 - 14:40

Ayden Perez

I thought it was abundantly clear she's mocking. The whole "parent's basement" is a dead giveaway. Insanely condescending. Just like her supporters.

October 1, 2016 - 14:45

Aaron Baker

WOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

October 1, 2016 - 15:20

Hunter Myers

It's funny how much of nerd culture is now part of the spectacle.
Although, technically it's always been based on consumerism in one form or another. They've just really tapped into it recently.

October 1, 2016 - 15:59

Landon Brooks

Nerds have always had right-wing tendencies. I remember reading an article about the guys who made Elite and how when they were students in the 80s they were hard-core Thatcherites.

It's unsurprising that the individualistic 'you're successful because you're special' ethos of capitalism might appeal to nerds with a sense of superiourity and latent classist tendencies. Look at how much Silicon Valley had to do with all the reactionary thought going around recently.

October 1, 2016 - 16:03

Julian Thomas

reddit.com/r/politics/comments/55ev3d/no_hillary_clinton_didnt_insult_sanders/

I'd like to take a baseball bat to these shills.

October 1, 2016 - 17:03

Oliver Nguyen

I despise these people.

They peddle conservatism couched in nihilism and false narratives.

October 1, 2016 - 17:17

Brayden Torres

ESR used to take people to the range way back before the cathedral and the bazaar.

October 1, 2016 - 17:33

Noah Rodriguez

...

October 1, 2016 - 17:40

Leo Miller

Did Nintendo really agree to this?

October 1, 2016 - 17:43

Jackson Butler

What the Sam Heck is ESR? What are you talking about?

October 1, 2016 - 17:44

Christian Price

Anyone that peddles this sort of "science fiction and fantasy are all about white males!" is seriously not a "real nerd." It fucking pisses me off. Sci-fi and fantasy are two genres chock-full of diverse protagonists and antagonists and they were fucking doing this shit before it was cool and it was actually a daring thing to do.

October 1, 2016 - 17:49

Chase Lewis

youtube.com/watch?v=gFNl9sWrQbs

October 1, 2016 - 18:50

Thomas Perry

Hillary's desperation is truly amazing.

Remember when B████ had millennials by just showing sympathy towards them and their problems? He didn't need to force memes or anything. Just some compassion and understanding.

All Hillary has shown the younger generation is poorly disguised antipathy. She doesn't want to know them or their issues. She just wants their vote.

October 1, 2016 - 19:00

Michael Howard

I think its fair to speculate that she and her husband blame the current generation for their own failed policies.

They must think along the lines of "we did good, but these worthless millennials threw it all away."

remember: youtube.com/watch?v=WHd_u-dqkVg

It all checks out: they are old farts (baby boomers) who hate those meddling kids, they are right wingers who look for an outside force ruining their otherwise perfect world.

October 1, 2016 - 19:17

Isaac Adams

She has a "squad goals" video coming out soon. *sigh*

I miss you, B████.

October 1, 2016 - 19:59

Adam King

youtube.com/watch?v=OKjBaxz45yM

October 1, 2016 - 20:22

Jaxon Lopez

this is a joke right?
right?

October 1, 2016 - 20:31

Hunter Smith

Working on some The Dark Horse Candidate Rises OC with Bern

October 1, 2016 - 20:34

Carter Lee

What do you mean "coming out soon"? They released a fucking trailer for it?

October 1, 2016 - 20:35

Brandon Cruz

Isn't she just some fucking liberal anyway?

October 1, 2016 - 20:38

Brayden Thomas

who is Holla Forums voting for?

poal.me/qya24i

October 1, 2016 - 20:46

Anthony Torres

Have you seen our tv and movies?

October 1, 2016 - 21:04

Michael Gutierrez

When are you gonna lose the trip, son?

October 1, 2016 - 21:24

Robert Phillips

ur a faget pepezefag

October 1, 2016 - 21:35

Adrian Allen

YOU!
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October 1, 2016 - 21:44

Parker James

I've already shilled pic related a few times, and it does a pretty good job at capturing the current Democrat mindset - i.e. "better education will fix everything, if it doesn't help you well that's your problem", and laissez-faire justified by the usual platitudes about welp, there's nothing the government can do about the decline of unions, loss of jobs to Third World countries etc

October 1, 2016 - 21:54

Christian Cox

Lol never because me talking about OC has to do directly with my contributions to the board

October 1, 2016 - 22:03

David Edwards

You mean this?
youtube.com/watch?v=IeCWs4xf7EU

There's a lot of downvotes.

October 1, 2016 - 22:12

Noah Thompson

Nope mediaite.com/online/the-clinton-campaign-just-put-out-a-squad-goals-video/

No, there was a tweet advertising it calling it that. But watching it now, it's not nearly as cringy as I thought it would be mediaite.com/online/the-clinton-campaign-just-put-out-a-squad-goals-video/

October 1, 2016 - 22:13

Jayden Nelson

Holy shit, Dr. Stein is amazing. She has an intelligent response to every problem she raises, and her policy proposals are genius.

October 1, 2016 - 22:23

Parker Carter

It's totally cringy. Her whole political program is "If I win, I will be the president :DDD"

October 1, 2016 - 22:23

Jose Garcia

um no she's totally gonna enact the progressive agenda she mentioned. it's not like she's saying one thing and gonna do another.

October 1, 2016 - 22:37

Noah Gray

Thank you for correcting the record!

October 1, 2016 - 22:38

Sebastian Campbell

0.05 cents have been added to your CTR account

No, thank YOU for feeding me tonight :^)

October 1, 2016 - 22:42

Henry Torres

It really doesn't sound unfair or disdainful to me. Not "lel whiney neckbears", but "these people have been flushed down the toilet of life from birth, they're quite justified in to thinking radical change is the only thing that could really help them, we have to give them token concessions while we continue the status quoshow that our policies line up with their hopes".

Why are liberals so bad at arguing their case?

You're completely full of shit. Are there right-wing techies and genre fans? Yeah, generally more of the psychopathic lolbert persuasion than the thoughtcucked fundie sort, they exist. But for every one of them, there's a dozen Steve Wozniaks and Gene Roddenberrys.

What's the Matter with Kansas explained the problem perfectly. If there was a pro-union, progressive taxation, protectionist, pacifist, openly anti-immigration candidate, they'd sweep the polls like a tidal wave. Trump is openly pro-porky, S█████ (even though he has quietly made it clear that he thinks mass economic immigration is retarded) was never willing to defy the PC weenies, it's a shame there isn't anyone who combines the strengths of both.

October 2, 2016 - 00:00

Easton Lopez

Look, pal, I never meant to deny that lots of sci-fi has been alternately subversive and utopic as it's developed, but you'd have to be straight up blind to ignore the unholy marriage that's happened between the right wing and the tech fetishists in recent years. Lots of young people especially who've never had much interest in politics and would've been otherwise apolitical get wrangled into supporting neoliberal policy because they frame it in a way in that they don't make it seem like a political issue at all, and just a matter of individual rights, disrupting technologies and giving the freedom to innovate. That's the insidiousness of it, they make it seem like supporting right-wing ideology isn't a political choice at all.

Like it or not, contemporary nerd culture is becoming hopelessly entangled with the corporate culture of the Silicon Valley tech sector, which has always been shamelessly about pushing deregulation and liberalization.

October 2, 2016 - 00:18

Kayden Wood

Oh fuck off. The most informed people (which "nerds" are) always have left-wing tendencies.

October 2, 2016 - 03:07

Carson Lewis

Based Bene Gesserit.

October 2, 2016 - 03:15

Cooper Howard

Interviewer is obnoxious as fuck.

October 2, 2016 - 03:16

Mason Sanders

Well, then you're retarded, user. And even if that's somehow what she meant, you're a fool to believe her. She's speaking to donors here, not the millennials she's referencing. One would think that would be the best way to get that message across. And she's fucked us at every turn, so I'm "inclined" not to believe a damn word she says.

gtfo

October 2, 2016 - 03:45

Chase Johnson

I remember seeing this author on Democracy Now! He made a lot of sense, and I thought I'd check his book out. I will, and I'll also tell my baby boomer parents to. Maybe it will be a good way to get through to them.

October 2, 2016 - 03:46

Hudson Martin

Definitely a much better answer than we got out of B████ ██████' wife when she came to our town months ago.

October 2, 2016 - 05:03

Eli Wright

Her answer should have been something more to the effect of "the Green Party recognizes the futility of trying to protect the environment under capitalism and that is why we see increasing the number of worker co-ops as fundamental to the future of the country."

I think Stein is really afraid of getting Red baited, when she really shouldn't be if she was paying attention to the S█████ campaign.

October 2, 2016 - 05:06

Matthew Ortiz

STEM people are most often politically undeveloped or retarded. Why would this be surprising?
I actually went into STEM for a year, and I can tell you that I and everyone else who studied with me had no sense of politics or sociology, we had the most retarded way of thinking about anything outside of "exact sciences". Then I went to study philosophy and I realized that STEMs are most often very right-wing economically, even socially, and they're very dogmatic and stubborn in their beliefs.

What has to be said though and what most people here still refuse to understand is that Silicon Valley in particular may be liberal, but they're not neoliberal anymore. Instead they're into governing society through algorithms and artificial intelligence, e.g.:
beyondtransparency.org/chapters/part-5/open-data-and-algorithmic-regulation/
There's now lots and lots of such ideologues from Silicon Valley trying to change the paradigm of government and they are succeeding. US, UK, and EU are all trying to implement their ideas. And what's really distressing is that people from both left and right see this uncritically as progress instead of realizing that the system becoming omnipresent and automatized is a political nightmare. It's like locking yourself in a cage and throwing the key out. Then we can really forget about any kind of radical change.

October 2, 2016 - 06:41

Daniel Ross

You gonna lose that trip son?

October 2, 2016 - 06:53

Jonathan Hill

(checked)
This needs a Downfall resub, it's too close to the original dialogue to pass up.

October 2, 2016 - 07:19

Ian Watson

archive.fo/ZA7yV

We want the "such a nerd xD" market.

October 2, 2016 - 07:42

Jordan Moore

...

October 2, 2016 - 07:45

Lucas Richardson

abcnews.go.com/Politics/40-percent-americans-vp-candidates/story?id=42497013
MORE THAN 40% OF AMERICANS DON'T KNOW WHO THE VP CANDIDATES ARE
although to be fair i wish i could forget Mike Pence too.

October 2, 2016 - 07:52

Landon Williams

They should be honest at least.

October 2, 2016 - 08:05

Caleb Wright

The asian is a qt tbh fam

October 2, 2016 - 08:13

Levi Thompson

At least you don't have him as Governor

October 2, 2016 - 08:30

Wyatt Long

archive.fo/UXyEI

October 2, 2016 - 08:39

Hunter Parker

Do people actually wear it, or is it just a popcultural forced meme?

I honestly have a hard time remembering Kaine or Pence, too. But I'm sure that'll change when both presidential candidates are thrown in jail due to their respective financial scandals midway through the election.

October 2, 2016 - 08:40

Cooper Howard

If you're so passionate about Silicon Valley, algorithms and artificial intelligence, then contribute to the Free Software Movement.

October 2, 2016 - 08:41

Nolan Scott

THIS

It's astonishing how many ratheists consider themselves liberal while supporting Hitchens, Dawkins, et al. And then Gamergate was able to exploit younger Redditors's antipathy for women and their love for free speech to form the alt-right. It's astounding.

October 2, 2016 - 10:32

Blake Nelson

What's a worker co-op?

October 2, 2016 - 10:34

Christian Morris

It's pretty embarassing, but I don't think it really matters tbh

October 2, 2016 - 10:35

Juan Lopez

Isn't YouGov online? That'd be like trusting the Drudge Report polls that say Trump won the debate.

I've seen other legit polls that say ~90% are voting for her, and although it may have dropped since then, there's no way it's that much.

October 2, 2016 - 10:37

Jordan Butler

They're a legit polling org.

Where?

October 2, 2016 - 10:50

Dylan Allen

Socialism.

October 2, 2016 - 10:50

Ethan Evans

I'm only on Holla Forums because of GG.

October 2, 2016 - 10:52

Henry Sanders

Here: vox.com/2016/7/26/12284960/bernie-sanders-voters-support-donald-trump-hillary-clinton

But I do realize now upon doing more than skimming, that this excludes 3rd party.

Hm, interesting. What about it lead you here?

October 2, 2016 - 10:55

Elijah Ward

My point is that technological automatization of governance and politics is horrifying when you start to think what this actually means for the possibility of politics and history as such, as well as what human beings will become under such automated in-depth hyperregulation.
FSF critiques the abuse and not the use of it as such. The "fully automated luxury consumerism" fanatics are much worse though. Today there's very little thought about the political implications of technology in general, technology is simply synonymous with progress which is apolitical. Certain specific cases are denounced as incorrect uses only to then glorify the correct use more purely. It's not that surprising, we're like those fish that don't understand what water is because our way of living and thinking is already so integrated into it.

October 2, 2016 - 10:57

Ryan Roberts

That stupid cultural Marxism meme made me finally look up what Marxism is.

October 2, 2016 - 10:58

Ryder Gomez

Have you read this user?

October 2, 2016 - 11:00

Noah Ward

I hope there's more people like you.

October 2, 2016 - 11:35

Parker Cruz

archive.is/9XxnM

Trump conveniently lost 916 million dollars in 1995 which allowed him to pay zero taxes for 18 years.

October 2, 2016 - 11:41

Jeremiah Gonzalez

twitter.com/adamjohnsonNYC/status/782607031530299392

October 2, 2016 - 11:48

Kevin Scott

I've heard of it. Evgeny Morozov is also worth checking out, he's been writing about big data and algorithmic regulation for years now.
youtube.com/watch?v=_pHkzyv7WUU

But I think we should go further and consider the following thought experiment: imagine we use big data to create a world without inequality, illness, crime, climate change, etc… It's a perfect world and the end of history. To achieve this the algorithms turn all aspects of our lives, both on the individual and collective level, into a problem of logistics and efficiency. Would we not, in such a perfect world where any conflict is eradicated, become mere organic automatons?
I think that conflicts and politics are essential to being human. In the past the role of the left was always to antagonize the dominant order, whatever that order was. But now, as the dominant order is turning into a global hegemony and the only question left is how to make this hegemony comfortable for everybody, the very possibility of antagonism is disappearing.

October 2, 2016 - 12:07

James Lopez

I'm a B████ supporter, but I was wondering how would he pay for some of his ideas like free education and healthcare?

I can already imagine taxes on the wealthy, but what else?

October 2, 2016 - 12:34

Ryder Stewart

...

October 2, 2016 - 12:35

James Harris

Part of it was closing several highly lucrative business tax loopholes.

October 2, 2016 - 12:36

Ayden Harris

Oh yeah, I was thinking about that too.

What about cutting military spending? It's incredibly overbloated, but I can't remember if he had the courage to say it.

October 2, 2016 - 12:38

Jackson Nelson

The wealthy actually paid their taxes we wouldn't need any harebrained ideas to fund education and healthcare.

October 2, 2016 - 12:41

Caleb Thomas

theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/02/bernie-sanders-defends-hillary-clinton-recording

Sanders agrees with Clinton on basement remarks

October 2, 2016 - 14:16

Alexander Robinson

This shit is actually unsettling

October 2, 2016 - 14:29

Ethan Hill

Did you guys actually listen to her?

October 2, 2016 - 14:39

Jordan Kelly

Why are people freaking out over the basement remark again? It was a bad way to describe how this generation is suffering, but it was sympathetic in tone. On the other hand, that bit about half of B████ites not understanding the nordic model of healthcare but feeling it being right is the same shitty 'young people are inherently misinformed' bullshit that Hillary's spouted before much more openly.

October 2, 2016 - 14:40

Joseph Sanchez

Just when I even start thinking about voting for Hillary I just play this video.

youtube.com/watch?v=AOW0cUaGWZU

October 2, 2016 - 15:17

Lincoln Moore

That was 10 years ago though, they're too unpopular for her to pull it off now.

October 2, 2016 - 15:19

Dominic Cooper

Fuck yes. Someone needs to photoshop this & help it get spread, like Clinton's foreign policy :((.

On that subject, anyone got any good recommendations on beginner photoshop software? I've been using shitty, free Photoscape for a while now & it's really limiting. I also just torrented Adobe cs6, but haven't found a good serial number(& don't know how to crack) yet. I'm pretty new, so a quick suggestion would be awesome..

Not surprising in the least. And these are the people who are quick to call you uninformed..

October 2, 2016 - 15:35

Wyatt Morris

...

October 2, 2016 - 15:35

Wyatt Hill

He didn't. The most he said was we need to approach the idea of regime change more carefully and that Saudi Arabia should fight its own battles.

October 2, 2016 - 15:39

Lucas Stewart

...

October 2, 2016 - 15:52

Leo White

Yeah, CTR was shilling this poll hard some months ago. Completely ignoring its many flaws.

90% of any type of voter or polling is hard to come by, and raises flags.

October 2, 2016 - 16:53

Leo Ward

Because it's fucking condescending. Even if she didn't mean it that way, it indicates a detachment from the voters she's targeting, like millennials are "ignorant savages" who need Hillary's neoliberal salvation.

Considering she's trying to buy them with trinkets like , the latter is probably the viewpoint of many democrats.

October 2, 2016 - 17:31

Carson Mitchell

...

October 2, 2016 - 17:38

Anthony Johnson

Fuck a duck. Assange is delaying his October surprise. When does the suspense end :(

youtube.com/watch?v=gOm826Pl4fU

October 2, 2016 - 17:59

Grayson Diaz

Nice.

October 2, 2016 - 18:05

Jaxson Watson

Most people here were from GG, its was pretty liberal at first.

October 2, 2016 - 18:20

Chase Watson

That was after it was co-opted by the alt-right.

October 2, 2016 - 18:23

Tyler Hernandez

Gamers are sexist was literally B████Bros 1.0, most people were apolitical at first and even hated Brietbart in the beginning but felt betrayed when the media lashed out at them, leaving them susceptible to the right.

October 2, 2016 - 18:34

Matthew Kelly

Assange and Wikileaks are psyops. When are people going to realize this?

October 2, 2016 - 18:39

Brody Lopez

Psyops? For the US or Russia? What?

October 2, 2016 - 18:46

Jacob Peterson

It's astonishing how many SJWs consider themselves leftists while being apologetics for patriarchic iron age theology. .

October 2, 2016 - 18:57

Luke Carter

Iron age theology is anti-imperialist

October 2, 2016 - 19:00

Carter Reyes

Iron age theology IS imperialist.

October 2, 2016 - 19:02

Kevin Foster

Not when brown people do it.

October 2, 2016 - 19:03

Ryan Sanchez

True.

October 2, 2016 - 19:04

Connor King

:^)

October 2, 2016 - 19:06

Ryder Wright

Whatever the surprise is, it is not going to change anything. Nobody is going to incriminate her, even if it turns out that she is a russian lizard who did 9/11. Hillary will win, one way or another. They will manipulate the votes if needed to give her the necessary boost.

October 2, 2016 - 19:40

Luis Martin

Remember to get out of your house on October 11th and support Election Justice USA's national day of action in some manner.

October 3, 2016 - 01:09

Blake Diaz

Jill Stein had one of her better interviews on HuffPost last week.

youtube.com/watch?v=6RsM_4NrjGQ

October 3, 2016 - 05:51

Grayson Parker

Did aids skrillex get a sex change?

October 3, 2016 - 06:15

William Turner

Please end my suffering

October 3, 2016 - 06:54

Luis Sanchez

...

October 3, 2016 - 07:22

Parker Adams

You communists are so deluded by the jew you really think that by seizing the means of production you will unseat the wealthy. hahaha.

This is obviously a nimbly navigating white-hero playing 320000Didgeridoo checkers.

October 3, 2016 - 08:34

Xavier Green

ITT the name "Seth Rich" now appears

Hillary swiped her woman card at the debate and spewed cheerbait towards the crowd even though cheering was not allowed. The fembot idiots cheered anyway because progressives are all about committing themselves to things like agreed-upon rules.

October 3, 2016 - 10:50

Jonathan Sanders

twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/782991359833698304
twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/783018873813696516

October 3, 2016 - 12:19

Leo Miller

I thought the debate might not hurt Trump all that much because he did best the first part. Most of the time that's what most people watch and remember. But it according to the polls most people say they watched the whole thing. Trump's ability to bring eyes to these debates has back fired.

Still, Shillary celebrations should be put on hold because a lot of the time after all three debates the polls go right back to where they were before the debates.

October 3, 2016 - 12:38

Jackson Morales

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/782906224937410562

October 3, 2016 - 12:44

Cooper Brooks

Grandpa Paul just endorsed Jill Stein for president.

October 3, 2016 - 12:52

Joseph Stewart

Kek, will lolberts recover?

October 3, 2016 - 12:56

Dylan Foster

well yeah, she is literally the only pro-liberty candidate in the race. Even the "libertarian" candidate is a pro-tpp corporate dicksucker

October 3, 2016 - 12:58

Gabriel Gomez

All those people that laughed are going to be fired if Clinton becomes president.

October 3, 2016 - 13:45

Michael Ortiz

Not really endorsed but yeah, she is better than Gary Johnson in his eyes.
washingtonexaminer.com/ron-paul-jill-stein-is-more-libertarian-than-gary-johnson/article/2603476

October 3, 2016 - 13:47

Zachary Richardson

...

October 3, 2016 - 13:50

Camden Brooks

talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ron-paul-jill-stein-gary-johnson

wtf I hate the Green Party now

October 3, 2016 - 13:51

Connor Morales

kek, look at what i found in the twitter responses.

October 3, 2016 - 13:56

Nolan Peterson

Porky's little whore: you haven't reached 15 berdsent. :DDD How you gona debate if you habend rich fideen berdend? :D:DD
Stein: The rules are set by the two owners, the dems and reps, and they obviously don't want to shatter the two party system by letting us in.
Porky's little whore: but you habenb got da fifdeen berbembd! :DDD

October 3, 2016 - 14:01

Dominic Smith

lol does this guy have any principles?

October 3, 2016 - 14:44

Samuel Stewart

Nate Silver/the other establishment folks have fallen back to the point in the campaign where they're convinced Clinton is inevitable.
Place your bets as to how She'll screw this up this time.

October 3, 2016 - 14:54

Matthew King

I think a lot of liberals are consciously in denial about Hillary.

If they admit that the candidate they support is a dangerous war profiteer who is in contradiction with their own platitudes about human rights then their whole "movement" will get discredited as politically bankrupt. So they have to keep pretending that all attacks are just about sexism, putting ever wider amount of critics on their list of "known bigots". They have to keep pretending that they're actually stupid and blind in order to maintain the purity of their intentions.

But there's only so far they can go before it all becomes too farcical even to themselves. I'm interested in what they will claim tomorrow when Wikileaks releases it's big surprise.

October 3, 2016 - 16:38

Jordan Lee

If he releases them.
*rattling intensifies*

October 3, 2016 - 16:43

Charles Watson

...

October 3, 2016 - 17:28

Logan Carter

the interviewer is shit yeah
but still the electoral system itself is fucked beyond repair. short of an entire overhaul people like stein will never get anything done

good taste my fam

they'll put death threats on the right people and do perfect damage control like usual. this election has already been bought and paid for

October 3, 2016 - 17:59

Jonathan Williams

Reminds me of how the Republicans thought Romney was inevitable.

I guess this year will be the Democrats turn to reach for the hemlock.

October 3, 2016 - 19:28

Caleb Harris

People like Stein can't, sure, but downballot challengers can. You know, in all those little local elections 3rd parties haven't made the slightest dent in, despite repeated acknowledgement they're the only viable option.

October 3, 2016 - 21:25

Aiden Young

It's just a presentation right?

October 3, 2016 - 23:22

Gabriel Thomas

Sooooo.. Assange is supposed to livestream soon with October Surprise?

youtube.com/watch?v=947fP6QTmBo

Anyone got any more info? I just heard,

October 3, 2016 - 23:25

Jordan Anderson

A bunch of hearsay that the entire email stack will drop. No proof though.

October 3, 2016 - 23:27

Oliver Reyes

thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/299018-judiciary-chair-presses-lynch-on-clinton-immunity-deals

WEW

October 3, 2016 - 23:29

Anthony Bell

We really need to work on getting Hillary supporters to look at her critically.. I know, that's a large order, but it's what we have to do to get this shit to stick

October 3, 2016 - 23:32

Hunter Harris

WIKILEAKS LIVEFEED STARTED

Hopefully it's something good.

October 4, 2016 - 01:08

Brandon Garcia

I'm getting real sick of his dud announcements.

October 4, 2016 - 01:22

Nathaniel Brooks

He's published enough though. We should be grateful for that. I made its own thread for the press conference that's ongoing. Hopefully they'll mention it. Otherwise, it's still interesting.

October 4, 2016 - 01:25

Michael Reed

I think her supporters and the media already know very well who Hillary actually is, they just don't care, it's unimportant details to them.

October 4, 2016 - 01:34

Joshua Cox

youtube.com/watch?v=TlqKFlU7YAs

October 4, 2016 - 04:29

Benjamin Reed

VP debate tonight

youtube.com/watch?v=6XPQgAlZP9U

Still 13 hrs away, though.

October 4, 2016 - 04:46

Jack Morris

Where's Ajamu Baraka?

October 4, 2016 - 05:40

Mason Martin

It depends on what you mean by "supporters".

On average, if people are supporting her, it's just because they view her as slightly better than Trump. They know full well that Hillary is human garbage, but they have little choice in the matter. Everything is shit this election.

The 2020 election will be very different.

October 4, 2016 - 07:17

Ethan Hughes

That's impossible. They just want to vote in a woman to fuck with the system. To a Hillary supporter, the Trans-Pacific Partnership is just a way to create more jobs for working families.

October 4, 2016 - 09:00

Grayson Murphy

Citation fucking needed

October 4, 2016 - 09:06

Brayden Jackson

Several things are going to happen here. Either a neoliberal porky shill or a neoliberal porky shill is going to be installed into the presidency. They will not solve people's economic woes. Both sides of the political spectrum will probably get more radical because of this. Next election expect someone more left than Stein and S█████ and possibly a full-on fascist worse than Trump.

One more specific outcome of this election is that if the Greens get 5% of the vote this election that could be totally game-changing for them next election. Jill Stein has run her current campaign fund of roughly only a few million dollars now. Getting 5% of the vote means somewhere around $8-$10 million for them, a 3x or 4x increase.

October 4, 2016 - 09:19

Thomas Smith

Not the guy you're responding to, but for starters if Hilary wins then in 2020 it'll be her against Cruz or Rubio. In which case, it'll be a trendy beaner vs an ineffectual and bitchy white lady. The media will drop the facade and go full porky cocksucking mode once the GOP becomes "multicultural". Downballot the party would be a total mess as the progressives and labor (ie the base of the party) will either be locked out of the politburo or have eroded away. The GOP would easily be able to use her as a scapegoat and win over the entire government. And this is assuming she isn't Impeached (note the open House committee on her emails).

On that note: let's imagine what Hilary's policy agenda would be. Day one would be flying to the Philippines and attempting to rebuild bridges with Duterte. Then out to Iran, where Hilary will throw Israel under the bus so she can cut up Iraq and Syria with Iran. Onto Europe, she'll be the manager of the migrant crisis (as neither Juncker, Merkel or Hollande are interested in filling that role) which will be fixed with Pinkertons (just like in Deus Ex). All of this would likely fail or be unsuccessful, and she would take the blame for it resulting in Rubio/Cruz going full spook on her and netting the White House. The 2020 Census happens and the US becomes a one party porkistani state.

October 4, 2016 - 09:24

Camden Sullivan

The fallout from Trump/Sanders massive popular support (whether or not Trump wins, IMHO, though obviously a win by him would greatly magnify the effect) will tear the two-party system a new asshole over the next four years.

Further, if stuff like Brexit/Corbyn causes similar cracks in the "left"/"right" neolib/neocon antipopulist establishment worldwide, it would hammer even harder against the status quo in the US (and visa versa).

I truly think 2016 is shaping up to be the biggest political shakeup since the post-WWII socdem New Deal/Marshall Plan regime disintegrated in the 1970s, and this neolib/neocon nightmare started.

There is a 0% chance of Shillary making it through her first term, and a pretty good chance of President Trump fucking up good enough to get thrown in the slammer as well.

October 4, 2016 - 09:30

Matthew Allen

Trump would help the two-party system more than anything else. His victory would cause the GOP and Democrats to realign into more nationalist, and more economically interventionist, parties. But if Trump looses, at least in my view we're going to end up with a one party state. The GOP would be totally united while the Greens split the Dem vote (more democracy inside blue/green states, but a GOP national government).

October 4, 2016 - 09:39

Joshua Gomez

Trumpenproles are pretty gullible, sure, enough where lots of corrupt porky antics and (to a lesser volume of forgiveness) some military adventurism could happen without a ripple. But I seriously doubt they're delusional enough (aside from a tiny core of the most denialist fanboys) for Trump to pass more trade deregulation and visa bumps, or even just fail to reign in trade and immigration, without going completely apeshit.

Look at how [REDACTED] completely lost control over his "revolution" just as keikaku? when he betrayed us, with a HUGE number of sincere "Never Hillary" voters injected into the Democratic Party bloodstream like neurotoxin.

If Trump goes back on the more famous promises he's made, I'm confident him and the entire Republican party will go up like a roman candle.

October 4, 2016 - 10:02

Brody Edwards

is this a filter?

October 4, 2016 - 10:43

Andrew Baker

No, this is truth.

October 4, 2016 - 10:49

Easton Bell

aljazeera.com/news/2016/10/wikileaks-founder-promises-leaks-election-161004141724900.html
HURRY UP AND EXPOSE CLINTON YOU PALE FAGGOT
=REEEEEE=

October 4, 2016 - 13:37

Matthew Butler

nope

October 4, 2016 - 13:56

Kayden Murphy

This is something I'm honestly scared of. By denying S█████, the Democrats opened a door for darker forces to take his message and radicalize an entire generation.

They basically set themselves up for another Trump.

October 4, 2016 - 14:59

Nolan Morales

does anyone care enough about the VP debate to livestream it?

October 4, 2016 - 15:00

Christian Ward

which what they want in the first place. proky can allow fascism happen, it can never allow leftist takeover to happen

October 4, 2016 - 15:01

Ian Nguyen

WTF so sad to see Forward shill for a creature like hillary clinton

October 4, 2016 - 15:24

Eli Roberts

If you ever need motivation to finally kill yourself, just look up "B████ ██████" in tumblr. Their arguments for Hillary haven't changed this entire election.

October 4, 2016 - 15:26

Luis Sullivan

I'm waiting on Democracy Now to give a pulpit to Baraka like they did Stein last week so I can watch all three responses together.

October 4, 2016 - 16:04

Nathaniel Rodriguez

This isn't the '30s m8, porky's gone global - a fascist American president is as much a threat as any genuine socialist to their globalist designs.

October 4, 2016 - 16:11

Camden Collins

The thing is Trump memers are being tongue in cheek with the God Emperor pastiche lifted from Warhammer 40K whilst this Hillary comparison is presented to us with an endearing sincere straight face.

October 4, 2016 - 16:12

Adam Cox

Pol is 100% serious about Trump being the white savior though.

October 4, 2016 - 16:15

Chase Powell

theintercept.com/2016/10/04/police-raid-indianas-largest-voter-registration-office-following-fraud-accusations-from-gop/
Republicans send cops to raid the biggest voter registration office in Indiana.
""""democracy"""""

October 4, 2016 - 16:45

Wyatt Hill

They'd rather have that than socialism tough…

October 4, 2016 - 16:52

Carson Butler

The entire DNC he looked so uncomfortable.

October 4, 2016 - 16:58

Jackson Nguyen

Guess it's hard to be comfortable with half of Clinton's goons crawling up your ass.

October 4, 2016 - 17:02

Brandon Lewis

All Trump has to do is deliver on immigration, free trade, and gun rights (perhaps with an icing of infrastructure spending, depending on how moderate Trump really is). His base will then eat up anything and everything. I think he's capable of it.

October 4, 2016 - 17:09

Nathaniel Collins

Does it matter? Either the Democrats become more radically leftist (not in the porkyist SJW sense, but in the labor struggle sense) or they die out as a movement.

October 4, 2016 - 17:10

Austin Perez

And it never will. Hilary supporters want the party to "unify" and consider everyone to the left of them as petulant children. They're neoliberals voting for a neoliberal, centrist, position and platform. Reformists aren't welcome.

October 4, 2016 - 17:13

Luke Rodriguez

Good joke.

October 4, 2016 - 17:17

Chase Baker

This is true. B████ was the only one who was actually interested in reaching out to the alienated masses that make up the alt-right and its potential supporters and bring them back into the mainstream. Instead, we got this distaster. The mainstream absolutely and maybe irreconcilably pushing people away from discourse and the DNC refusing to care about anything but an immutable neoliberal vision.

October 4, 2016 - 17:54

Dominic Scott

Livestream for the VP debate

youtube.com/watch?v=qp7Aodufh-M

October 4, 2016 - 17:59

Caleb Reed

not even two minutes in and already we've got muh troops.
also
like pottery

October 4, 2016 - 18:06

Brody Jones

Hillary and Pence both wore red…

Are Democrats commies after all???

October 4, 2016 - 18:07

Noah Smith

Their "unifying" attempts are just shaming all opposition.

Insert IDPOL bullshit as needed.

October 4, 2016 - 18:08

Blake Hill

They both dyed their clothes in the blood of our slain democracy.

October 4, 2016 - 18:09

Josiah Taylor

I'm referring to leftists that believe this is the '30s, and that there's a USSR still around with which capitalists can browbeat voters into supporting fascists as a counterbalance

October 4, 2016 - 18:09

Angel Parker

o fuk

October 4, 2016 - 18:10

Juan Turner

Expanded debate including Ajamu Baraka stream via Democracy Now:

democracynow.org/live/expanding_the_debate_october_4th_vice

October 4, 2016 - 18:13

Jeremiah Rodriguez

empowering kids i.e. exploding them with drone strikes and posthumously labeling them terrorists

October 4, 2016 - 18:13

Leo Brooks

The Russians are coming!
The Russians are coming!
The Russians are coming!
The Russians are coming!
The Russians are coming!

October 4, 2016 - 18:14

Grayson Foster

Kaine already with "muh Russia"

October 4, 2016 - 18:14

Isaac Harris

These two fags are literally the same person, their ties are just different colors.

October 4, 2016 - 18:15

Liam King

"Hillary killed Osama", guys

October 4, 2016 - 18:16

David Butler

youtube.com/watch?v=Ll3iyvbsRDM

October 4, 2016 - 18:16

Gavin Cox

Very nice, thanks for sharing. Watching this one, too

October 4, 2016 - 18:18

Sebastian James

Exactly what I was thinking of.

October 4, 2016 - 18:18

Gabriel Murphy

Not really. Pence is substantially worse, even on labor.

October 4, 2016 - 18:19

Levi Walker

New leak: guccifer 2.0, clinton foundation hacked

guccifer2.wordpress.com/2016/10/04/clinton-foundation/

Do you understand what pic related is? It's a "donor research" page comparing the amount proposed TARP funds put onto banks vs the amount they are giving in lobbying, and the % of return-on-investment the Democrats get. In other words, in 2008 Democrats cut deals with big banks for the TARP in exchange for campaign contributions. This is the hard proof that the Democrats are not only collaborators but also hardcore porkies themselves.

The specific file is "Tarp Recipients (1).xls" in the Donor Research Folder.

October 4, 2016 - 18:19

Jordan Ross

And that's surprising how?

October 4, 2016 - 18:21

Brandon Wilson

It's like poetry.

October 4, 2016 - 18:22

Jacob Russell

Mike Pence has been talking for two minutes but he hasn't actually said anything.

October 4, 2016 - 18:22

Bentley Sullivan

We have hard evidence, their own internal documents. Proofs matter.

October 4, 2016 - 18:23

Jason Thompson

What do you expect, he's a Republican

October 4, 2016 - 18:23

Kevin Moore

What happens when the robots are doing 80% of the work?

October 4, 2016 - 18:24

Grayson Bennett

Hillary is going to start a war with Russia.

October 4, 2016 - 18:25

Joshua Evans

no she won't

October 4, 2016 - 18:26

Brandon Gomez

Massive reduction of population.
The porkies will be the first generation to live in actual socialism in human history.

October 4, 2016 - 18:26

Austin Harris

Based Green party

October 4, 2016 - 18:27

Ayden Wood

Baraka confirmed waifu.

October 4, 2016 - 18:27

Hudson Morgan

I audibly keked

October 4, 2016 - 18:30

Ayden Sanchez

At least we can see the details, here.

October 4, 2016 - 18:30

Gavin Harris

Absolute madman.

October 4, 2016 - 18:30

Leo Gomez

She absolutely will. There is no other reason should would be making so many overtures to war with them. She is definitely, definitely going to start a war with Russia.

October 4, 2016 - 18:31

Lincoln Rodriguez

who knows.. it seems pretty convenient & fruitful for her to blame Russia constantly

October 4, 2016 - 18:32

Jaxon Bell

capitalism creates new jobs in new industries ;^)

got a problem, friendo?

October 4, 2016 - 18:32

Jacob Sanders

We need IDs

October 4, 2016 - 18:33

Liam Williams

...

October 4, 2016 - 18:33

Ryder Lopez

>>>/reddit/

October 4, 2016 - 18:33

David Sanders

...

October 4, 2016 - 18:34

Jose Evans

no bully pls

October 4, 2016 - 18:34

Adam Howard

They could literally just alternate between these two and Baraka laughing and that would be enough.

October 4, 2016 - 18:35

Jason Richardson

Eh.. Kaine has a good point on privatization of Social Security.

October 4, 2016 - 18:35

Benjamin Morales

Baraka wants to expand SS, good to hear

October 4, 2016 - 18:36

Joseph Wilson

Murrika is truly a falling empire.

October 4, 2016 - 18:37

Leo Johnson

Can't wait to hear Baraka on Police state

October 4, 2016 - 18:38

Hudson Ramirez

Yeah.. that is weird

October 4, 2016 - 18:39

Joshua Peterson

Don't say nuffin mean bout police ;-;7

October 4, 2016 - 18:42

Christian Taylor

...

October 4, 2016 - 18:42

Jose Martinez

Pence: "Police officers are the best of us"

October 4, 2016 - 18:42

Aaron Wilson

yes, good good. kill anonymous discussion. btw that was my first post itt and if you couldn't detect the sarcasm, i feel bad for you

why can't the dems admit that police abuse of power goes far beyond anything like racial bias?

October 4, 2016 - 18:42

Kevin Russell

because that would mean talking about class.

October 4, 2016 - 18:43

Blake Reyes

Because that's too radical, friendo

October 4, 2016 - 18:44

Noah Taylor

This debate is like watching one if those videos of a bird fighting its reflection in a car's side mirror. Anyone who says one person came out "the winner" is a bona fide shill.

October 4, 2016 - 18:46

Daniel Martinez

I thought this guy sounded a little silly the first time I heard him speak, but I find myself liking him more and more every time.

October 4, 2016 - 18:47

Charles Reed

why shouldn't i just drop out and accept my place as a worm?

October 4, 2016 - 18:47

Cameron Butler

Baraka: "Police are waging war on our communities"

October 4, 2016 - 18:47

Ryder Turner

Good. At least it fuels more general discontent.

October 4, 2016 - 18:47

Cooper King

Ajamu "Kill all cops" Baraka

October 4, 2016 - 18:48

Xavier Stewart

when did trump say saudi should get nukes??

is that true??

October 4, 2016 - 18:48

Camden Russell

I have to switch computers to have enough reaction images for this shit

October 4, 2016 - 18:49

Ryder Brown

Please do not post anime girls

October 4, 2016 - 18:51

Henry Walker

The vast, VAST, majority of police officers in America are AFL organized. The Democrats will pull all sorts of bullshit, but they will never ever bite their enforcers.

October 4, 2016 - 18:52

Bentley Gonzalez

...

October 4, 2016 - 18:53

Jaxon Miller

Why? Does it turn you on? :^)

No promises. But I don't have a lot, anyway.

October 4, 2016 - 18:54

Dominic Perez

pls no bully democrats :;

October 4, 2016 - 18:55

Jaxson Baker

Is it just me or the moderator is interrupting Pence all the time?

October 4, 2016 - 18:55

Kevin Gonzalez

It does seem like that.

October 4, 2016 - 18:56

Gabriel Myers

I have that impression too.

October 4, 2016 - 18:56

Christopher Lee

of course he is the media has a neoliberal slant at the moment

October 4, 2016 - 18:56

Ryan Mitchell

seems like it

October 4, 2016 - 18:57

David Fisher

Anyone else getting interruption of live feed from Democracy Now! ?

October 4, 2016 - 18:58

Luke Nguyen

They're both neoliberal stooges. Neoliberalism is not a transformation of American liberalism like neoconservatives are to conservatives.

October 4, 2016 - 18:58

Henry Jenkins

Just crapped out on my end too.

October 4, 2016 - 18:59

Bentley Brown

hate this moderator

October 4, 2016 - 18:59

Isaac Hall

D:

October 4, 2016 - 19:00

Jeremiah Cook

Why does the Johnson campaign keep skipping out on this expanding the debates thing? That's twice now they've given them an opportunity to join the Green candidates in response.

October 4, 2016 - 19:00

Thomas Diaz

it's not working for me either

October 4, 2016 - 19:00

Bentley Campbell

He keeps going over his time limit

October 4, 2016 - 19:00

Jordan Hill

back now

October 4, 2016 - 19:00

Alexander Thompson

Because the Green party is better than them. Even Ron Paul supports Jill over Johnson & Johnson. They'd lose their "leading 3rd party" status.

October 4, 2016 - 19:02

Jose Parker

isn't it nice that our political leaders can all agree with each other on fucking the working class?

October 4, 2016 - 19:03

Elijah Williams

Because Johnson is a meme candidate

October 4, 2016 - 19:03

Isaiah Diaz

I wonder if they made a deal with Trump supporters/surrogates to not fight too hard.. Because Johnson seems to be botching it in many ways

What is Aleppo

October 4, 2016 - 19:04

Lucas Morgan

All that Reagan pandering.

October 4, 2016 - 19:06

Jack Miller

NINE ELEVEN
I L
N E
E V
E
E N
L
E
V
E
N

October 4, 2016 - 19:06

Angel Ross

When the fuck did Trump praise Kim Jong Un?

October 4, 2016 - 19:08

William Ross

Kaine: "The terrorist threat has decreased in some ways, because Bin Laden is dead"

"Also, 9/11"

"Also, Trump loves Putin, Kim Jong Il, etc"

October 4, 2016 - 19:08

Alexander Russell

uh oh

October 4, 2016 - 19:08

Juan Taylor

Un* ..whoops

October 4, 2016 - 19:08

Jonathan Reyes

I think those pushing him realised that he'd do more damage to the Democrats than the Republicans - thats why the media's tone on the Johnson campaign has changed from "Johnson at 15% Signals The Death Of The Republican Party" to "Johnson calls Europe a country and thinks Japan is part of China, more news at six"

October 4, 2016 - 19:08

Nolan Cooper

The fuck does that even mean?

October 4, 2016 - 19:09

Luis Thompson

It means porky thinks We need to kill more arabs

October 4, 2016 - 19:10

Logan Bennett

STAY IN IRAQ FOREVER is what it means

October 4, 2016 - 19:10

Carter Price

just something you say about the other guy if you don't like him

October 4, 2016 - 19:10

Anthony Foster

Oh god, MUH IRAN

October 4, 2016 - 19:11

Landon Hill

There's too much of us regular folk in [context], and not enough of porky influence there.

October 4, 2016 - 19:11

Liam Young

Isn't he some sort of godlike being in american politics? Nobody is going to insult him considering the aura of greatness surrounding him.

October 4, 2016 - 19:11

Gabriel Gray

Only to conservatives

Or so I thought.

October 4, 2016 - 19:12

Zachary Miller

But the Free World has always been at war with Iranaqistan

October 4, 2016 - 19:12

Connor Myers

based Baraka actually pointing out the elephant in the room

October 4, 2016 - 19:12

Adrian Wood

Nah, even Obama praised Reagan

October 4, 2016 - 19:12

Josiah Young

He's given a great, nuanced answer on this.

"Iraq War, Hillary voted for it, Obama perpetuated it, A game by the elites"

October 4, 2016 - 19:14

Andrew Robinson

i'm listening to the standard coverage, what's he saying?

October 4, 2016 - 19:14

Nicholas Perry

Holy fucking shit.

October 4, 2016 - 19:15

Owen Roberts

see &

October 4, 2016 - 19:17

Luis Hill

That America worked with jihadists in order to overthrow Saddam and Gaddafi.

October 4, 2016 - 19:17

Bentley Reed

But it's true. The function it served ended with the Soviet Union.

October 4, 2016 - 19:21

Joseph Rodriguez

Should have brought up the surveillance state when talking about an "intelligence surge", am disappoint Ajamu.

October 4, 2016 - 19:24

Daniel Perez

...

October 4, 2016 - 19:25

Logan Roberts

exactly

October 4, 2016 - 19:26

Cooper Harris

...

October 4, 2016 - 19:27

Robert Williams

Spooks.

October 4, 2016 - 19:27

Adrian Martinez

...

October 4, 2016 - 19:27

Juan Walker

What did he mean by this?

October 4, 2016 - 19:28

Tyler Baker

NINE ELEVEN

October 4, 2016 - 19:28

Luke White

Isn't the more concerning thing that he lost a billion dollars back in the 90's?

October 4, 2016 - 19:29

Easton Ortiz

"Humanitarian zone" another word for No-fly zone?

October 4, 2016 - 19:29

Cooper Lewis

from the POV of the Empire it couldn't be further from the truth tho

October 4, 2016 - 19:32

Joseph Cooper

Baraka saying both dems & repubs wanting more war, perpetuating false narratives

Also saying that the US can't even abide by ceasefires

October 4, 2016 - 19:32

Colton Brown

from both sides

October 4, 2016 - 19:33

Caleb Phillips

No, because he made it all back. He used to boast about this all the time.

October 4, 2016 - 19:33

Jason Moore

...

October 4, 2016 - 19:33

Tyler Diaz

Thank god I move out in 6 months.

October 4, 2016 - 19:34

Ryder Campbell

Someone please create a separate thread for this. This kinda of info shouldn't get drowned out by the VP Debate nonesense

October 4, 2016 - 19:34

Henry Clark

Pence: "Hillary's weak & feckless foreign policy"

October 4, 2016 - 19:35

Tyler Barnes

reminder that Israel already has over 100 nuclear weapons while Iran wasn't even trying to build a nuclear arsenal, deal or no deal.

October 4, 2016 - 19:35

Jose Adams

halfchan/pol's unbiased poll
strawpoll.me/11366592/r

October 4, 2016 - 19:36

Brayden Parker

I moved out almost 2 years ago. Best decision I ever made.

October 4, 2016 - 19:36

Parker Moore

Yeah. They did a full reverse course when someone shook out all the poll numbers and people realized he was taking Dem votes.

October 4, 2016 - 19:36

Ayden Murphy

It's so god damn gay. It's really like he doesn't realize the last 12 months have happened. Hillary Clinton is the warmonger now you twit. The democrats are the one's chanting out U-S-A to drown out those chants of No More War.

October 4, 2016 - 19:38

Noah Gonzalez

I don't think i could tolerate this shitshow without Ajamu Baraka

October 4, 2016 - 19:39

Kevin Perez

Typical MSM anti-Trump spin. This one is actually really funny:

“TRUMP: You’ve got to give that ‘maniac’ in North Korea some credit.”

October 4, 2016 - 19:40

Dominic Bennett

Hearing all three of the candidates speaking about Syria/Middle East, Russia, makes me fear a WWIII.

October 4, 2016 - 19:41

David Green

hey democrats, remember this?

October 4, 2016 - 19:41

Aaron Cox

the "pivot to asia" literally being "we need to go to war with China soon if we're going to do it reassert the US-led international order in Asia" framed as Chinese "aggressive expansionism" and 98% of Americans are so afraid and ignorant of China they will go along with it absolutely, is fail AIDS.

October 4, 2016 - 19:43

Lincoln Ortiz

Truly, unbiased & "scientific" Listening to MSM I know that scientific is best #1

October 4, 2016 - 19:43

Cameron Parker

I sure couldn't. Was just thinking that.

October 4, 2016 - 19:43

Jeremiah Davis

I remember well.

October 4, 2016 - 19:44

Owen Reed

lmao.. my my

October 4, 2016 - 19:44

Jason Sanders

b-b-but I thought America was friends with China now that crazy Drumpf wants to start WW3 by renegotiating trade deals

October 4, 2016 - 19:45

Ian Diaz

The democratic party and every individual democrat simultaneously forgetting that they wanted rapprochement with Russia the minute Trump said it was a good thing was cool to witness.

October 4, 2016 - 19:46

Christian Clark

watch as Mike Pence recounts his TrumpxAmerica daddydom fantasy on live TV

October 4, 2016 - 19:47

Cameron Cook

Pence: "America is better than the.. crony.. capitalist system in Russia"

October 4, 2016 - 19:48

Samuel Edwards

Is this about to become the new Word of the Year? You ever notice how idiots fixate on a particular new word for them?

October 4, 2016 - 19:49

Nicholas Morgan

I think that's the weirdest one and I don't know where it came from. I guess some pundit just said "trade war" and a million little geebs started spouting of "trade war with China" everywhere.

It's weird because TPP is a trade deal that is specifically hostile to China and being pushed so heavily so as to undermine its power in Asia.

October 4, 2016 - 19:49

Adrian Sanchez

I know at least one Russian "expert" Irl who creamed their pants when Kaine called Putin a dictator.

October 4, 2016 - 19:50

David Sullivan

meant to reply to this

October 4, 2016 - 19:50

Noah Phillips

Kaine: "Putin is a dictator.. And Hillary Clinton knows this well"

October 4, 2016 - 19:50

Charles Kelly

Ajamu "no war but the class war" Baraka

October 4, 2016 - 19:51

Hudson Wood

...

October 4, 2016 - 19:51

Brayden Rodriguez

Kys

October 4, 2016 - 19:51

Angel Gonzalez

"floating American power"
I didn't realize China was sovereign American territory

October 4, 2016 - 19:52

Nicholas Miller

We're backsliding far, fast.

Hillary Clinton literally said she would retaliate against cyberattacks by the Russians in a not very veiled reference to the hack of the DNC email system which reveled unfairness and corruption in favor of her within the democratic party. That get's zero play in the media. Apparently it's not "inflammatory" like "everything Trump says"

October 4, 2016 - 19:53

Josiah Bell

Wut. That's literally what it's for. It's there to "reassert the US-led order in Asia" or whatever I posted up there. I've been talking about how gay the narrative of expansionism w/r/t China was in this thread but you can't tell because we're all anons obviously.

October 4, 2016 - 19:55

Austin Rodriguez

here you go

October 4, 2016 - 19:55

Joshua Cook

Based Baraka

October 4, 2016 - 19:56

Logan Watson

Its pretty much just coming down to "If Trump was for/against it, we're against/for it".

Hell, maybe someone should encourage Trump to say he was disappointed that the FARC referendum failed, and we'll hear Clinton saying that Trump is actually a closet commie that wants to see red boots marching over Latin America

October 4, 2016 - 19:56

Jordan Ortiz

I want to shoot them both.

Is this normal?

October 4, 2016 - 19:57

Easton Long

What if it benefits porkys and the geopolitical aspirations of America's elites?

October 4, 2016 - 19:58

Bentley Jenkins

Yes.

Watch with Baraka, it makes it bearable.

October 4, 2016 - 19:58

Xavier Allen

I know that feel comrade

October 4, 2016 - 19:58

Ethan Lopez

I missed that somehow. What was that in response to?

October 4, 2016 - 19:59

Angel Fisher

No.

But on bourgeois democracy it is.

October 4, 2016 - 19:59

Alexander Richardson

when they were talking about conflict with China and Russia.
Based Baraka pointed out that it was just a conflict among the rich and that poor people are going to be duped into fighting each other.

October 4, 2016 - 20:00

Blake Bennett

The memes are going critical.

October 4, 2016 - 20:00

Jack Cooper

Jesus Christ, talking about "taking action" if Russia launched nuclear action.

What is going on?

October 4, 2016 - 20:00

Wyatt Brown

I wonder how Berta Caceres feels about Hillary Clinton's record on women's rights.

October 4, 2016 - 20:01

Anthony Phillips

...

October 4, 2016 - 20:03

Wyatt Rogers

"I really wanted to not use state power to execute convicts but then I went ahead and killed them anyway"
T. Tim Kaine

October 4, 2016 - 20:04

Alexander Scott

...

October 4, 2016 - 20:05

Camden Garcia

Kaine

Pence:

October 4, 2016 - 20:06

Angel Price

NO ONE FUCKING CARES

October 4, 2016 - 20:06

Gavin Parker

Won't someone please think of the fetuses!
#fetuslivesmatter
#killallabortiondoctors

October 4, 2016 - 20:07

John Walker

We're the only Western country who even talks about this anymore, especially using it as a political tactic

October 4, 2016 - 20:08

Asher Wright

...

October 4, 2016 - 20:09

Julian Myers

Kaine quoting Bible verses

October 4, 2016 - 20:10

Jaxson Sanchez

...

October 4, 2016 - 20:11

Lucas Peterson

Well you were doing amazing, Ajamu.

October 4, 2016 - 20:13

Matthew Ward

Baraka saying "white males" & "patriarchy" in reference to abortion rights, at all

pls no, we have better arguments. This is why it shouldn't even be on the table. heh.. table :/

October 4, 2016 - 20:14

Jacob Campbell

Red baiting is so shitty now that there isn't any reds.

October 4, 2016 - 20:15

Asher Price

lmao

October 4, 2016 - 20:16

Wyatt Cooper

I swear 2 God, when I'm looking away, I can't tell a difference between who's talking

Scary

October 4, 2016 - 20:17

Ryan Brooks

Actually nuanced commentary on that Democracy Now! link. It's interesting & refreshing to hear.

Compare to the MSM.

Anyway, Baraka did good. He made this debate bearable. I applaud him & feel good voting for the Green Party.

October 4, 2016 - 20:25

Kevin Gray

Those two things alone would break the spine of the neoliberal agenda, and would be a titanic boon to the power of the working class. There's more items that would be needed to truly quash them (especially military matters to attack the symbiotic neocon ideology), but that is a lose-condition for the Reaganites/lolberts infesting the Republicans, and the neo-DLC Clintonites infesting the Democrats.

October 4, 2016 - 21:14

Christian Reyes

archive.is/eu560
theintercept.com/2016/10/04/tim-kaine-john-negroponte-and-the-priest-who-was-thrown-from-a-helicopter/
Apparently Kaine spent some time in Honduras with marxist priest James Carney

October 4, 2016 - 21:44

Chase Perry

So it seems the consensus is that Pence "won". Congratulations Pence u did it. u won da debate.

October 4, 2016 - 22:37

Lucas Morales

Kaine was likely working for the CIA.

October 4, 2016 - 23:02

Joseph Morris

I remember the first time I read an article from The Daily Beast a year or so before GG, I assumed it was a retool of another paper called The Beast, spinoff of infamously ruthless Russian paper The eXile, and wondered "How could such a bunch of hilariously berserk trolls stoop to this level of virtue-signalling PC weeniedom?" until I learned the two were totally unrelated.

October 4, 2016 - 23:11

Tyler Hughes

Voter ID laws will prevent transgendereds from voting

oxwugzccvk3dk6tj.onion/newsplus/res/31224.html#q31224

October 5, 2016 - 08:17

Chase James

For those keeping score at home, Berta Caceres mysterious died after criticizing Hillary Clinton.

October 5, 2016 - 08:19

Benjamin Adams

Mike Pence never brought up that time when Hillary said that Trump should stop criticizing the Federal Reserve because words hurt or something like that. Pence and Kaine must have been really nervous up there because they failed to bring up a lot of things that might have made the debate more interesting, such as Kaine's epic failure among his constituents in Virginia.

October 5, 2016 - 08:23

Owen Myers

This is surreal. It would be comical if it weren't real life. I can't wrap my ahead around how anybody could be involved with this and not recognize the absurdity of it.

October 5, 2016 - 08:40

Grayson Ortiz

How long before banks and corporations start openly endorsing and funding candidates? Because people obviously don't care they're doing it in secret. Why even bother hiding it anymore?

October 5, 2016 - 08:54

Oliver Robinson

Pence did repeatedly say that Kaine had been a terrible Governor. And he probably declined to pursue Trump's attacks on the Fed because he doesn't really agree with or like Trump. There were a number of times when he simply ignored or dismissed Kaine's attacks on Trump instead of rebutting them.

October 5, 2016 - 09:24

Hudson Gonzalez

I would do the same thing tbh. There's no time or will to shore up trumps image against all the stupid criticism leveled against him. You don't swim against the current, you swim at an angle to it.

October 5, 2016 - 09:36

Isaac Campbell

Hillary is the new McCarthy America needs. She will send to psy hospitals the alt-right trolls. Doing so, she'll put tge first brick of the proletarian dictatorship.

Once she finished the dirty job, we'll can start revolution and establish council democracy.

But first: send the rightards to redeucation camps.

October 5, 2016 - 10:10

Samuel Garcia

Please remember to spend the coming month leading up to the election gathering screenshots of posts by Holla Forumsyps so we can make a 2016 collage.

Clinton may be terrible but that doesn't mean we can't laugh at Holla Forums and their orange savior.

October 5, 2016 - 13:55

David Myers

There's a notable lack of 'cuck' being thrown around in that image but the same bizarre obsession with homo sex is there.

October 5, 2016 - 14:03

Leo Sullivan

archive.is/twVwD

How? Why? What?

October 5, 2016 - 14:11

Eli Wood

The point is that he was incredibly indecisive about it and will be bad at making hard decisions as president.

October 5, 2016 - 14:16

Ryder Robinson

Love this response

October 5, 2016 - 14:20

Tyler Diaz

The "hard decisions" like turning Libya and Syria into chaotic shitholes? The "hard decisions" like backing Saudi Arabia's bloody intervention in Yemen?

It's truly fascinating how the Left has changed its position from "American foreign policy is like a bull in a tea shop" to "muh Obama doctrine, drone strikes and Saudi Arabia are pretty cool 2bh"

October 5, 2016 - 14:24

Gabriel Morales

theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/11/the-case-for-hillary-clinton-and-against-donald-trump/501161/?utm_source=atltw
surprise, surprise. The Atlantic endorses Shillary

October 5, 2016 - 14:48

James Morgan

Oh good, Hillary will continue the well-established trend of even more blind flailing in the Middle East

October 5, 2016 - 14:53

Isaac Moore

She promised Kain the VP spot if he would step down as DNC chair and allow DWS to take over.

October 5, 2016 - 15:53

Luke Lee

without checking google, take a guess if this Al Gore speech to millennials is real or not.

October 5, 2016 - 16:51

Blake Hall

Whew.

October 5, 2016 - 17:01

Daniel Williams

It's funny that he referenced 30 Rock. Maybe he was channeling that scene?

October 5, 2016 - 17:01

Parker Price

bizarre obsession with homosex, much?

Here's what I want to know, why does leftist criticism train all its adherents to claim "repressed homosexual subtext" everywhere? They do it all the time and it's one of their go-to "readings" of just about anything.

October 5, 2016 - 17:13

Thomas Cox

...

October 5, 2016 - 17:16

Anthony Scott

Because for all their talk about how much they love homosexuals deep down they find homosexual behaviour to be just as distasteful as the avowed homophobes.

See: "Any authoritarian movement that's not explicitly Marxist just comes from repressed gaybois that want to fuck Daddy Leader"

October 5, 2016 - 17:17

Grayson Sanchez

"living in your parents basement" is a cliche that you can only use to demean someone. Unless Hillary Clinton is not a native English speaker (a reptilian) it simply reveals her true feelings, which we knew anyway. Just as a reminder, this convo was supposed to be off the record.

October 5, 2016 - 17:30

Nicholas Diaz

Hillary is the frumpy 70 year old ex-jockyrider who asked the nerds to help her win Ms.Prom queen several decades later. You can even see it in her attitude towards Trump. The one alpha(&omega) who shunned her.

Hermione was a smart character but she is a textbook definition of a Mary Sue combined with being an ass. Out of all the characters in the HP series she is the least associatable because shes "Too perfect" despite her "muggleness" she literally outclasses everyone from actions to magic knowlegde.

Despite being a cutesy character she is utterly devoid of any personality growth. She remains the same character. So what Ron wins her in the end. Ron is going to be nagged to death.

Harry is going to be snuggled up by the fireplace drinking pumpkin ale with Ron's sister whom he saved like a goddamn hero.

Christ Hermiones family with Ron will look like Angelica Pickles family from the Rugrats. Imagine that for a second.

Clinton is garbage. Trump is no better..

HOWEVER Trump will be the single most observed president in history and due to him all presidents for the next couple of decades will be under the same scrutiny. It will force the people to observe their government.

That is why you vote for Trump EVEN IF YOU HATE HIM.

He can't do shit with the entire population waiting for him to fuck up..So he has to be a masterclass president and go through his people before doing anything. It will probably be the most heavily evaluated presidency to boot as well.

October 5, 2016 - 17:34

Parker Phillips

Wow that's ironic.

Do you have reading comprehension issues?

Is a direct quote from the screenshot of Holla Forums comments. There is literally nothing sub-textual about that.

October 5, 2016 - 17:36

Dylan Adams

There's also nothing bizarre or especially faggy about likening the defeat of your opponent to them being raped in the asshole

October 5, 2016 - 17:41

Christian Gray

If it is real I'll kill myself on stream.

October 5, 2016 - 17:41

Levi Lewis

mein gott

October 5, 2016 - 17:44

Jaxon Sanders

...

October 5, 2016 - 17:45

Camden Scott

Literally every society in history raped the buttholes of their vanquished enemy.

October 5, 2016 - 18:08

Connor King

guessed it was fake, it is, parody of a tweet

October 5, 2016 - 18:55

Dylan Scott

...

October 5, 2016 - 18:56

Jose King

Incredible. You can perfectly tell which accusations she is actually guilty of because she uses the courtroom lie "I don't recall" instead of a plain denial.

God I hate Hillary Clinton.

October 5, 2016 - 19:25

Zachary Ward

It is pretty obvious. The only part that's really pitch perfect and potentially true is "It's time, y'all, we clap back at global warming."

October 5, 2016 - 19:27

Adam Ortiz

Because she wasn't joking.

October 5, 2016 - 19:30

Blake Collins

...

October 5, 2016 - 19:53

Hunter Powell

STEM fields are well known to be overrun with right wingers, Libertarians and "Tech bros" both on a student level and on a academic level. I've read quite a lot of professors talk about it before.

also

There is a reason as well Silicon Valley is a well known Libertarian circeljerk land. FFS some of the most popular children names in the area are "Ayn" and "Rand"

October 5, 2016 - 20:06

Grayson Watson

Last election about 65% of PHD's were registered Democrats.

October 5, 2016 - 20:13

Adam Robinson

...

October 5, 2016 - 20:18

Ethan Howard

Not Libertarians is my point.

October 5, 2016 - 20:19

Connor Cruz

Most Silicon Valley types though still are Libertarians.

They will vote democrat because democrats tend to be far more socially liberal than Republicans, but at their heart, they believe in Libertarian/Randian values.

You can see it a lot even in how sites like Reddit, Twitter etc are run, where they try to make the users sort everything out, instead of engaging in any hands on moderation.

Many of them also view that SV Tech progress will be the solution to all mans problems, look at stuff like Uber and the rest of the hilariously exploitative sharing economy, they are presented as "freeing the worker" and "creating a new era of humanity".

I'm friends who is a PhD holding Computer Engineer, he literally said to me "We don't need to do anything about Climate Change, because it will be solved in the next decade probably by some app or tech that comes out of Silicon Valley" this is someone who holds a PhD.

The SV mindset has poisoned STEM with Lolbertarian individualist/tech nonsense.

October 5, 2016 - 20:39

Hunter James

I agree that engineering and business majors are libertarian as fuck. And I'm sure the SV is like that - my friends dad who works in the Silicon Valley gave him a copy of Atlas Shrugged once and went "this is the most important book you'll ever read".

Just as far as STEM goes, not all of them are lolberts. Just engineering and business majors, mathematics and say biotech and usually more to the left.

October 5, 2016 - 20:46

Julian Cooper

...

October 5, 2016 - 21:02

Connor Barnes

Isn't that similar to worker self management? Except more democratic I mean.

Also, what that dude said about climate change being solved by and app is terrifyingly stupid.

WIGGITY WEWTY

October 5, 2016 - 22:04

Adrian Richardson

Oh look, it's THIS faglord again. You are still completely full of shit, pics related from the following survey of scientists on their opinions compared to the general public:
people-press.org/2009/07/09/section-4-scientists-politics-and-religion/

I can't find a similar opinion poll for engineers, but the following figures on monetary political contributions by industry (I'm not sure if this is employers or employees) show them 50/50 in most fields, barely Republican in a few, and MASSIVELY Democrat in the populous software and electronics fields:
verdantlabs.com/politics_of_professions/

Also, note that a field appearing "balanced" isn't necessarily indicative of centrism, but much like the general public today, is often produced by a highly polarized struggle between opposing partisans:
businessinsider.com/charts-show-the-political-bias-of-each-profession-2014-11

I suspect they're the same Tumblrina as

October 5, 2016 - 22:53

Nolan Jenkins

Nice dubs

October 6, 2016 - 04:15

Levi White

Muh dek

October 6, 2016 - 05:48

Thomas Robinson

It's mostly the T and E parts of STEM that are overrun with lolberts and they aren't exactly scientists

October 6, 2016 - 05:51

Kayden Brooks

...

October 6, 2016 - 06:21

Carson Gutierrez

...

October 6, 2016 - 07:35

Hunter Torres

Get a job you lazy turd.

October 6, 2016 - 08:17

Cameron Rodriguez

New DC leak
dcleaks.com/index.php/portfolio_page/capricia-marshall/

October 6, 2016 - 15:09

Anthony Bennett

Just me?

October 6, 2016 - 15:18

Logan Gonzalez

it's overloaded, the whole internet is checking it out

w8, hit refresh

October 6, 2016 - 15:23

Carter Flores

Most Holla Forumsacks aren't making impossible claims this time around. Everyone knows the polls are shit, and it's anyone's guess who might win.

October 6, 2016 - 15:40

Blake Green

b-b-but muh Nate Silver, muh sabermetrics

October 6, 2016 - 15:50

Liam Perez

dailydot.com/unclick/donald-trump-pepe-billboards-pennsylvania/
some alt-right fucks in Pennsylvania are going to pay money to put these up as billboards.

October 6, 2016 - 18:48

Brandon Miller

Must they? That's literally only going to make him look bad.
What a bunch of colossal fucking idiots and that's not even going into their sense of humor and how the spend their time and how gullible they are.

October 6, 2016 - 18:53

Henry Morris

Did they say where in PA? Maybe I'll get to see some Holla Forums autism in real life

October 6, 2016 - 18:54

Gavin Robinson

Let's hope so.

October 6, 2016 - 18:55

Sebastian Ramirez

inthesetimes.com/article/19514/millennials-consider-clinton-policy-not-trump-fear-when-voting
Clinton blown the fuck out

October 6, 2016 - 20:07

Daniel Murphy

I've never understood why depicting Trump as a reptile to the normies is a good strategy to win people to their side.

October 6, 2016 - 20:11

Jaxson Turner

kek

October 6, 2016 - 20:13

Nolan Cox

I won't be laughing. If Hilary wins, the Democrats would die over the next four years leading to a GOP landslide in 2020, which is when the Census (and redistricting) happens. I'm not a fan of Holla Forums's idiocy or Trump's politics, but I'd rather be able to use him as a scapegoat rather than having to justify remaining Democrat to myself.

Also, Trump is likely to win. The Democrats' have lost the Union vote and thus will loose the entire Rust Belt. Wisconsin and Michegan are completely red at the moment, something which seemed impossible just six years ago. As a result, Hilary cannot get to 270 unless Florida flips, but I'm very doubtful of that as Florida is entirely GOP too (and Rick Scott was one of the first people to endorse Trump, over their own Rubio).

October 6, 2016 - 21:02

Justin Reyes

In this election everyone seems planted to sabotage whichever candidate from the inside. And Trump seems to be there to make Clinton win, but that's not working either apparently.

October 6, 2016 - 21:18

Christian Hernandez

Most people became disillusioned withe the Democrats after Snowden, now that Obama is promoting the TPP nobody wants to vote for them. End result is that radicals will go third party while most simply don't vote. Turnout drops, Trump wins.

October 6, 2016 - 21:33

Adrian Sullivan

Well the Moonman reference is pretty funny. The lazy use of pepe is cringeworthy however.

October 6, 2016 - 21:47

Lincoln Thomas

Was with it until this idiocy.

October 6, 2016 - 21:50

Joshua Bell

These whole elections remind me a lot of chanology on the sense of imageboard people doing retarded shit IRL.
Only Holla Forums is actually embracing it.

October 6, 2016 - 21:54

Isaiah Morris

This election has been all about both sides' openly coming out in pride for who and what they truly are.

October 6, 2016 - 22:10

Benjamin Scott

Seriously.

You want to know what's even more dangerous than a hypothetical Trump presidency? The fact that Clinton isn't facing any official repercussions for her blatant criminal activity.

First the Roman Republic, then the Empire, began to fray toward the ends of their lifespans because the growing wealth of the patrician class accumulated into fewer and fewer families until the power of the shared power of the state was no longer sufficient to keep them in check.

Toward the end of the Republic, we see successive dictatorships of extremely popular and extremely wealthy individuals whose power and muh privilege are no longer able to be contained by the powers of the Senate. Caesar's innovation which brought an end to this period of civil war was to concentrate the majority of state power within his person, which did create a sort of stability for a while.

Ultimately though Rome is unable to deal with the frequent subsequent crises of the third and fourth century CE. Even the power of the emperor, once overwhelming, can't keep a lid on things because the state powers that placed him into a point of supremacy atrophied to the point where the only thing keeping the Emperor in power was the (frequently fickle) army behind him.

The normal operation of the Roman state, of participation of the nobilities major and minor in its operation, its funding, and protection, all begin to fall away. One of Rome's primary contradictions was the fact that the means of production, in this instance the productive land, were generally monopolized by the aristocracy. Technological progression and the decay of the empire shifted the focus from participation in the state to self-sufficiency. The emperor was too busy trying to maintain the cohesion of an increasingly fractured empire to bring them to heel, so they just continued to drift away from republicanism to the feudal system that would typify the middle ages.

Rome was starved of resources, capital, and talent, and as it lost the ability to enforce its will on the aristocracy, they increasingly disregarded it, until its eventual collapse.

tl;dr, the real danger doesn't come from who is sitting at the top of the state, but when the state loses the ability to regulate who is sitting at the top. That's when shit starts flying apart.

October 7, 2016 - 01:52

Noah Watson

wsws.org/en/articles/2016/10/07/bern-o07.html

By Shannon Jones
7 October 2016

October 7, 2016 - 02:22

Jaxon Reyes

...

October 7, 2016 - 02:23

Nathan Williams

archive.is/uFNWU

October 7, 2016 - 06:59

Christian Turner

I don't know what she's thinking when she says things like this.

youtu.be/IGQjaSJP2Xg

October 7, 2016 - 08:18

Dylan Allen

I don't know what she means by that either but staring at screens all day does have a lot of negative effects.

October 7, 2016 - 08:42

Dominic Cox

yeah, but she makes it sound like it has something to do with wifi

October 7, 2016 - 09:00

Cooper Peterson

Fuck off. Apparently you're late to the party. People have been using this to try & slander Stein for a while, now. Just like how they say she's anti-vax, when she's not.

It was the parent asking the question that talked about wifi. Jill was talking about the health affects of staring at screens all day instead of allowing children to physical activity more in school. She's a doctor, and was speaking on the affects of having them sit in from of a computer all day.

October 7, 2016 - 09:30

Robert Brown

nice fake quote, btw

October 7, 2016 - 09:31

Liam Nelson

Give this a read, it's an interesting study.

October 7, 2016 - 09:36

Aaron Mitchell

front*

October 7, 2016 - 09:41

Kevin Bailey

She was mildly incredulous back in the day, granted a number of people were. Also, Hillary has said things about vaccines that were much worse anyway.

October 7, 2016 - 10:24

Thomas Parker

Yeah, there was a lot of hysteria back then. Even Obama said worse things about vaxing. But all have come to a consensus that it's necessary & the benefits far outweigh the risks.

Some CTR or shit poster just decided to try again with that WiFi bs. It won't work, here.

October 7, 2016 - 10:44

Adrian Kelly

Eh.

It should really be note that Stein was at one time in her physician career actually actively involved in vaccine promotion. This anti-vax shit is a complete and utter fabrication.

October 7, 2016 - 11:17

Jayden Taylor

In fact here: youtube.com/watch?v=jNG3gDTPYjc

Do I need to webm this shit? Read her fucking book, she has never at any point in time been anti-vax.

October 7, 2016 - 11:19

Cameron Jones

Bizarre but this is likely attributable to some kind of anti spam algorithm (this is the reason shills and censors say we "need" the practice of shadow banning)

Trump making dozens of tweets with the same format and a few words exchanged in a short period of time could trip twitters antispam algorithm.

I do not support shadowbans by the way, it's a sinister tool.

October 7, 2016 - 11:37

Luis Phillips

Your anti-astroturf starter kit.

October 7, 2016 - 11:46

Luke Powell

Lmao, I forgot about Trump..

October 7, 2016 - 11:57

Xavier Allen

Thank you. Saved for later use.

Jill's only "thought crime", I guess you could call it, is being too nuanced & intelligent in her responses. Most people aren't used to that & tune out, then just listen to whatever MSM outlet tells them.

I'm filling out my paper work right now, actually, to vote for her. She's on my state ballot in KY.

October 7, 2016 - 12:03

Jonathan Reed

youtube.com/watch?v=GSgP3IU-ZJo

October 7, 2016 - 13:25

Grayson Butler

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/784498891936915456

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/784491543868665856

October 7, 2016 - 14:16

Nathan Morgan

Wat do?

October 7, 2016 - 14:17

Brayden Bell

Enlighten her. But get to know her of course first.

October 7, 2016 - 14:20

Jackson Barnes

God Emperor or wymyn:
washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-recorded-having-extremely-lewd-conversation-about-women-in-2005/2016/10/07/3b9ce776-8cb4-11e6-bf8a-3d26847eeed4_story.html?postshare=2491475870527101&tid=ss_tw

October 7, 2016 - 14:24

Luke Wilson

The most offensive part of that video is when Trump forgets how to open a car door.

October 7, 2016 - 14:35

Alexander Bennett

Sounds like he's just being a dudebro around other guys but regardless it's a damning video.

October 7, 2016 - 14:47

Easton Williams

The video can be watched here:
endchan.xyz/.media/245df81b679f30132a754dbdd548870d-videomp4

Also, Trump gave a statement on the video.
donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/statement-from-donald-j.-trump

October 7, 2016 - 15:14

Dominic Campbell

GRAB HER BY THE PUSSY

October 7, 2016 - 15:17

Samuel Clark

Typical.

October 7, 2016 - 15:17

Brody Bennett

"Bill Clinton has said far worse to me on the golf course"

That I can believe.

October 7, 2016 - 15:19

Lincoln Flores

How curious that the "grab her by the pussy" video came out at literally the exact same time as the Podesta emails on Wikileaks.

October 7, 2016 - 15:20

Xavier Reed

Hey, that's a good observation. They do keep stuff on-hand of the other candidates just in case they need distractions.

Interesting.

October 7, 2016 - 15:21

Brody Lopez

A Podesta email on how to best attack S█████, and some really crazy rationale throughout, referencing Goebels..

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/22

Wtf.

October 7, 2016 - 15:26

Nathan Jenkins

Not really, it's from 2005. Americans demand their scandals to be recent. Hilary's emails barely qualify and that was fairly recent (about five years ago).

October 7, 2016 - 15:27

Jack Taylor

They've blown their load too early. There's plenty more dirt on Hilary, but how many scandalous videos of Trump are there? They had to reach back eleven years for this one.

October 7, 2016 - 15:28

Benjamin Wright

Reminiscent of the 80s video they had to find of B████, where he praised Cuba's schooling/MDs.

October 7, 2016 - 15:29

Justin Garcia

they really are that desperate, huh

it won't matter though because the people who are the most offended won't turnout while older people simply vote down the party line

October 7, 2016 - 15:34

Christopher Baker

lol who cares tho, big bad fascist man said something about vaginas.

October 7, 2016 - 15:35

Luis Rodriguez

So.. fracking?

October 7, 2016 - 15:36

Gavin Barnes

...

October 7, 2016 - 15:42

Juan Wilson

...

October 7, 2016 - 15:43

Anthony Gomez

kek

October 7, 2016 - 15:46

James Turner

Please what is the rest of that excerpt

October 7, 2016 - 15:48

Oliver Sullivan

Hilldog wants boots on the ground in Syria.

October 7, 2016 - 15:52

Adrian Davis

Bernie was going to install a socialist dictatorship, apparently.

October 7, 2016 - 15:56

Brody Ortiz

everyone wanted boots on the ground, Obama saying no to that is the only respect I have for him

October 7, 2016 - 15:58

Austin Price

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/?q=&mfrom=&mto=&title=¬itle=&date_from=&date_to=&nofrom=¬o=&count=50&sort=2#searchresult

I'm looking at Holla Forums's digging, too.

>>>Holla Forums7774856

October 7, 2016 - 16:02

Cooper Robinson

I guess he really was a legit slick entryist

October 7, 2016 - 16:06

Brayden Gutierrez

>>>Holla Forums7774856
lmao, worst get in history

October 7, 2016 - 16:07

Jason Cruz

whoops

>>>Holla Forums7777777

October 7, 2016 - 16:07

Jose King

So is /r/politics completely controlled by CTR? Because all links about the leaks are being deleted and the entire front page is nothing but Trump threads.

October 7, 2016 - 16:12

Joseph Watson

You just figuring that out?

October 7, 2016 - 16:13

Luke Mitchell

I guess so. I haven't gone there since last year.

October 7, 2016 - 16:15

Jose Anderson

Yep. They mass stalk the new & controversial posts & downvote anything negative about Hillary.

I'm always shocked nowadays if anything breaks through.

October 7, 2016 - 16:18

Sebastian Allen

/r/politics has been unusable since the convention

October 7, 2016 - 16:19

Christopher Anderson

But check out this muh Russia megathread
:DDDDDD

reddit.com/r/politics/comments/56dc85/megathread_us_officially_accuses_russia_for_dnc/

October 7, 2016 - 16:20

Jordan Howard

Following news about the leaks on Twitter and literally every response is some variant of "why are you pushing Russia's/Putin's agenda"?

October 7, 2016 - 16:21

Josiah Barnes

The sad truth is that what is all the people inside the Dem politburo think. Beltway politicians honestly don't know how to handle Trump so they're just blaming Russia. They're only hurting themselves though, because in the end no matter who wins everyone will remember how they kept blaming Russia. Which means if Hilary wins, she won't have the backing of half her party and will loose midterms by a much wider margin than Obama did.

But they're also an increasingly marginalized minority. The only Democrats left at this point are those in (mostly) safe districts. Purple ones got voted out years ago. Most Americans, especially swing staters, are fed up with the BS.

October 7, 2016 - 16:25

Nathaniel Gutierrez

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/1766

Um, what the fuck?

October 7, 2016 - 16:28

Ayden Reyes

youtube.com/watch?v=9tKWElDHhY4

October 7, 2016 - 16:36

Jason Young

...

October 7, 2016 - 16:38

Brody Sanchez

It's honestly frightening how this incredibly trigger-happy bureaucrat has adopted this conspiratorial world-view that makes the John Birch Society seem reasonable and yet no one seems to fucking care.

That last image pretty much sums it up. If it were anyone else other than the most powerful woman in America spewing this bullshit they'd be laughed to death.

October 7, 2016 - 16:44

Cameron Ross

but remember, the cold war is over!

October 7, 2016 - 16:46

Xavier Bailey

PUTIN CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

October 7, 2016 - 16:56

Ryder Taylor

This one's the best so far: transcript of Hillary's paid speeches to Wall street.

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/927

(it keeps getting better and better)

October 7, 2016 - 17:02

Thomas Garcia

Who/what started this meme? I swear over the last year people mentioning "evidence-based decision-making" (as opposed to what, "God told me to!"?) has skyrocketed

October 7, 2016 - 17:04

Andrew Young

It's technocracy. It is how they already operate, through experts, policing, technology. "Evidence-based" is an euphemism for bio-politics.

October 7, 2016 - 17:07

Brandon Long

I think black science man tried to popularize it recently

October 7, 2016 - 17:10

Parker Adams

The most powerful woman in America is Janet Yellen.

But I agree with your point, Hilary only gets away with this because she is _the_ establishment and nobody can say no to her. She sets the agenda for the Democrats. Which will make her defeat in November all the more worse for them.

October 7, 2016 - 17:12

Thomas Ortiz

_the_

>>>/reddit/
>>>/youtube/

Jk, it's happened to me before :^)

October 7, 2016 - 17:16

Owen Perry

those idiots look like cigarettes

October 7, 2016 - 17:16

Ayden Evans

I don't know, it just sounds redundant as fuck.

Because to a lot of people party loyalty trumps (lol) everything else. I find it more depressing that they subconsciously acknowledge that Hillary and the DNC have been up to shady shit (what use would the leaks be if they weren't?), but party loyalty and fear of Der Drumpfvolksreich makes them attack Russia instead

October 7, 2016 - 17:16

Brody Martin

J A I L

pic related means a day one impeachment for hilary if she wins

October 7, 2016 - 17:26

Brandon Bell

Best election ever

October 7, 2016 - 17:27

Daniel Gomez

PANIC MODE

October 7, 2016 - 17:29

Xavier Price

...

October 7, 2016 - 17:29

Jack Russell

Nope. Hillary's campaign has been openly coordinating with CTR since the very beginning. They claim there is a loophole that allows them to do it, since CTR isn't buying TV ads.
washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/05/12/how-a-super-pac-plans-to-coordinate-directly-with-hillary-clintons-campaign/

I think it's bullshit and they should be arrested, but I don't think the email leak tells us anything new.

October 7, 2016 - 17:32

Jonathan Anderson

Hahahahaha

"We're not going to confirm the authenticity of documents stolen from us.

Jesus Christ.

October 7, 2016 - 17:35

Jack Jackson

Hillary speech excerpts, for one. More schemes against S█████, her openly admitting wanting "open markets and borders", admitting it was against the rules to have a blackberry when she became SoS. There's some good stuff in there, and people have only scratched the surface.

October 7, 2016 - 17:39

Jason Myers

Just look at this fucking ideology

October 7, 2016 - 17:39

Owen Ross

reddit.com/r/politics/comments/56dyvg/wikileaks_appears_to_release_hillary_clintons/

Something made it to the front page. Of course, it's a buzzfeed article repeating muh Russia narrative & ebil hackers.

October 7, 2016 - 18:00

Julian Davis

Imagine if your only contact with the outside world consisted of /r/politics articles and their comment sections.

Perhaps suicide is preferable.

October 7, 2016 - 18:04

Mason Clark

Before suicide, I want these people to be mowed down, one by one.

October 7, 2016 - 18:17

Jace Butler

Meritocracy is good, but it's sifting through to get the merit is what is important. democracy is one of those ways.

October 7, 2016 - 18:18

Jason Hall

Those comments are really depressing. What's the atmosphere in America at the moment, who's more likely to win? I'm getting very different feelings based on which echo chamber I visit.

October 7, 2016 - 18:20

Grayson Ross

I'm an Australian Greens member.

One of the problems with the Global Greens, is it's a left wing grassroots organization that started basically with hippies, thus, a lot of the more senior membership, are 70s new age boomer hippies who believe that smoking weed can cure cancer and homeopathy works and all technology is dangerous and shit like that. The politicians, have to pander to this base though, because they do hold significant power within the party.

That being said, on Jill Stein. The shit that is said about her, is mostly slander, designed by the Clinton campaign to purposely make her lose support among "Rational, Scientifically minded" Liberals. Don't mind that Stein has a much more comprehensive, scientific global warming strategy than the Democrats, she doesn't believe in Wifi, she's anti vaxx! etc etc, all from taken out of context quotes.

It's the same shit being thrown at Corbyn in the UK. It's specifically designed propaganda to make these politicians seem like "crazies" among the Liberal populace.

October 7, 2016 - 18:21

Dylan Gonzalez

Why suicide when extinction is a possibility?

Honestly, now's good a time as any to not give a shit.

October 7, 2016 - 18:22

Nathan Fisher

100

October 7, 2016 - 18:23

Juan Brown

This.

Enjoy your time left in the Grand Hotel Abyss.

October 7, 2016 - 18:24

Carter Gomez

/r/politics and /r/worldnews are completely controlled by astroturfing groups.

It was no coincidence that during the S█████/Clinton campaign, a lot of the anti-Clinton stuff being upvoted to the top by the thousands was from Drudge, Briebart and other far-right sources. The reason was is that the Trump campaign new Clinton was going to win, so they were trying to get their news organizations and slander to the top of the board, under the guise of being S█████ supporters.

On the other side, the Clinton circlejerk on the board these days is unreal. You can barely even fucking criticize her on more Liberal oriented political boards. I literally criticized how shitty her campaign has been, not even her, and got downvoted like 100 times and then banned for being a "Trumptard" while in the same post shitting on Trump's policies but I did say, he at least has a narrative around his campaign that people can easily identify.

On the /r/worldnews side

Notice the top threads every day are

There is a reason for that.

And I've proven it's not just "interest in these topics", I've posted much more interesting, relevant, but moderate North Korean news, like for example the other day how North Korea has actually designed a functional moon rocket, but only got upvoted once or twice. Yet hyperbolic bullshit that is obviously fake gets +5000 upvotes within 2 hours. Yeah nah.

October 7, 2016 - 18:30

Jace Cox

TRUMP ACTUALLY MAY DROP OUT
THIS IS NOT A DRILL
GET READY FOR ALT-RIGHT SALT MINING COMRADES

October 7, 2016 - 18:33

Ryder Hernandez

Source?

October 7, 2016 - 18:36

Jose Myers

twitter.com/Yamiche/status/784564766211727360

October 7, 2016 - 18:40

Christopher Clark

It's too late for the GOP to do anything, and I don't see why he'd personally resign since this is what, "Campaign Ending Scandal #4303"?

October 7, 2016 - 18:42

Nolan Sanders

What does this mean?
Is he trying to make a treaty with AY LMAO?

October 7, 2016 - 18:43

Cooper Walker

Fuck off. The bigger story here is clearly the Clinton/Podesta emails.

October 7, 2016 - 18:44

Landon Robinson

FUCK YES JEB 2016: RETURN OF THE ¡JEB!

October 7, 2016 - 18:46

Caleb Cox

I've been banned twice from r/politics, for "incivility". It's such a shithole, and this is a good summary of why. It's basically unusable. I don't know why I torture myself by still going there. But I know there aresome actual people there, so I try to counter the influence CTR/other astroturfers have.

October 7, 2016 - 18:46

Blake Walker

...

October 7, 2016 - 18:47

Aaron Ortiz

That's why I like imageboards - complain all you want about NEETSocs but you're not going to get banned by some passive-aggressive cunt getting the vapours over "incivility"

October 7, 2016 - 18:49

Austin Brooks

True.

Even fucking Youtube has better policy. At least I can still tell people to fuck off & call them a shill there.

I looked for r/spacedicks out of curiosity the other day, and it was also "quarantined". I guess reddit's been dead since Pao took over.

October 7, 2016 - 18:53

Christian Jones

But anaon imagine if he does drop out all the clinton shills will no long have the worst presidential candidate ever as an excuse to shill for the second worst presidential candidate ever

October 7, 2016 - 18:58

Christian Walker

The largest active volcano in Japan just erupted.

I can't handle all these happenings.

October 7, 2016 - 19:01

Cooper Howard

AFAIK posting RT.com is banned on /r/politics because it is "state propaganda."

It means that the dude is having le problems in the head.

October 7, 2016 - 19:02

Jason Jackson

2016 is getting its kicks in while it can

October 7, 2016 - 19:03

Liam Hill

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
AHAHAHAHAHAHAH
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
AHAHAHAHAHAHAH
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
AHAHAHAHAHAHAH
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
AHAHAHAHAHAHAH

October 7, 2016 - 19:10

Samuel Long

rt.com/on-air/ doing gr8 DNC debunking right now

October 7, 2016 - 19:12

Daniel Gonzalez

Mysterious clowns are currently holding America in a grip of terror.

These are the end times.

October 7, 2016 - 19:12

Mason Harris

You need to learn to respect the evidence based modding of /r/politics. What? Don't you like science?

October 7, 2016 - 19:13

David Richardson

I thought those clown sightings were part of some viral marketing scheme for the IT remake 2bh

October 7, 2016 - 19:15

Isaac Flores

no, yeah, the speech excerpts are new. I just mean in regards to the election laws.

October 7, 2016 - 19:16

Charles Hernandez

...

October 7, 2016 - 19:17

Josiah Smith

half the country checked out of the elections, just like in 2000. It's a full on neolibreal vs Holla Forums bumfight now

I'd say Trump as he has an edge in swing states, as Dem turnout will be in the shitter like it has been for the past six years. But these sorts of things are inherently unpredictable.

October 7, 2016 - 19:18

Angel Collins

SANDERS SUPPORTERS ARE A BUCKET OF LOSERS WITH LOW SOCIAL CAPITAL

October 7, 2016 - 19:21

Julian Gomez

Guess which one the MSM are talking about?

October 7, 2016 - 19:26

Cooper Davis

pussay?

October 7, 2016 - 19:27

Carson Sanders

Link?

October 7, 2016 - 19:28

Luke Wood

MSM is irrelevant thanks to social media. Today's leaks should serve as an example of the importance of guarding an open and free Internet.

October 7, 2016 - 19:28

Brandon Gomez

Why is Hillary talking to Goldman Sachs about killing Syrian civilians?

October 7, 2016 - 19:33

Nicholas Moore

Disgust. A lot of Americans on both sides feel this election is bringing great shame to our nation.

It's going to leave a scar that will last for decades.

October 7, 2016 - 19:35

Hunter Davis

holy shit, it's scary that they were predicting this whole election with such accuracy.

was B████ actually in on this?

October 7, 2016 - 19:39

Hudson Long

This is like something a cheap supervillain would say

Imma steal this

October 7, 2016 - 19:45

Lincoln Robinson

That's the most porky idea ever come up with, too.

October 7, 2016 - 19:48

Charles Price

What did she mean by this?

October 7, 2016 - 19:51

Aaron Brooks

I can't wait for the inevitable article where a sad and frustrated S█████ confirms that his supporters are indeed a "Bucket of Losers".

October 7, 2016 - 19:56

Justin Cruz

sauce on this?

October 7, 2016 - 19:58

Liam Morgan

It's not real, nor is it part of the leaks. It's from a satirical article that was written during the primaries.

October 7, 2016 - 19:59

Michael Perez

What did she mean by this?
wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/927

October 7, 2016 - 20:00

Adam Mitchell

...

October 7, 2016 - 20:01

Jaxson Gomez

Rush Limbaugh Thinks Hurricanes Are Part Of A Left-Wing Conspiracy
“It’s in the interest of the left to have destructive hurricanes because then they can blame it on climate change.”
huffingtonpost.com/entry/rush-limbaugh-hurricanes_us_57f5deffe4b0b7aafe0bff06

when will we start killing people like him, ffs?

October 7, 2016 - 20:05

Hudson Turner

Don't bother with people like rush, they're idiots who are mostly harmless. If you want a war, kill the traitors first.

October 7, 2016 - 20:11

Wyatt Anderson

...

October 7, 2016 - 20:14

Aaron Smith

I like how they put Wikileaks second, lmao, at 1 million.

October 7, 2016 - 20:25

Levi Cooper

Source please. I want to spread. I'm driving CTR crazy on reddit right now.

October 7, 2016 - 20:27

Nicholas Adams

This picture died for me, the moment I saw it plastered on r/enoughsandersspam

We all know Rush is retarded. We #Podestaleaks right now.

October 7, 2016 - 20:30

Easton Sanchez

rip in piece, picture

October 7, 2016 - 20:38

Colton Wood

twitter.com/bocake/status/784602267446079488

lmao

October 7, 2016 - 20:59

Anthony Anderson

you forgot to add this

October 7, 2016 - 21:23

Thomas Russell

Oh yeah, that is a good point. I just retweeted it, too.

October 7, 2016 - 21:28

Isaiah Rivera

>>>Holla Forums7778250

Decent pol thread on the leaks.

October 7, 2016 - 21:34

Elijah Thompson

reddit.com/r/PoliticalDiscussion/comments/56fhw8/should_the_republicans_use_wikileaks_against_hrc/

laid out some bait. let's see CTR do their thing.

October 7, 2016 - 21:43

Dominic Campbell

rt.com/usa/361987-govt-russia-hacks-official/

The US intelligence community is “confident” that Russia is behind the recent hacks of US officials’ and organizations’ emails, the Department of Homeland Security and the Office of National Intelligence said.

According to the joint statement issued Friday, “disclosures of alleged hacked e-mails on sites like DCLeaks.com and WikiLeaks and by the Guccifer 2.0 online persona are consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts.”

“We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities,” says the statement, posted by the Director of National Intelligence James Clapper.

The thefts and disclosures are “intended to interfere with the US election process,” the statement said, adding that “the Russians have used similar tactics and techniques across Europe and Eurasia” to influence public opinion.

October 7, 2016 - 22:01

Xavier Walker

My contacts in the Whitehouse say that the Russians have forged these emails, to such an end that Hillary Clinton was almost held at gunpoint into writing them.

Remember people, stay vigilant.

October 7, 2016 - 22:04

Dylan Diaz

Do they not realize that Russian tools and strategy are the gold standard?

October 7, 2016 - 22:06

Alexander Martinez

Wow CTR was quick in removing my post from the main page. Fucking shills.

October 7, 2016 - 22:12

Jack Harris

Twitter is now auto-"correcting" #PodestaEmails to #PodestraEmails

As a result, Twitter has successfully reduced the correct tag's overall trend count.

October 7, 2016 - 22:19

Jordan King

amazing

October 7, 2016 - 22:21

Mason Perry

It's some interesting propaganda. The Russian's revealing corruption to "influence public opinion" "across Europe and Eurasia" as if the whole US foreign policy of the last 50 years just disappeared into a black hole.

October 7, 2016 - 22:24

David Walker

He's obviously correct.

This is similar to saying "It's in the interest of the right to have terror attacks because they can blame it on radical islam."

October 7, 2016 - 22:27

Jace Torres

Trump is less fascist than Hillary tbh.

October 7, 2016 - 22:28

Lincoln Nguyen

Try r/politics

It won't even make it past the /new/ section, lmao

They're freaking out over this leak.

October 7, 2016 - 22:30

Benjamin King

For whatever reason* twitter doesn't include wikileaks on its global trends.

October 7, 2016 - 22:30

Cooper Rodriguez

Also, good b8

October 7, 2016 - 22:30

Jordan Richardson

Frustrating that HRC couldn't actually build her own subreddit but just used mod power to take over the main politics sub tbh.

October 7, 2016 - 22:31

Landon Cox

lol

October 7, 2016 - 22:32

Aiden Hall

...

October 7, 2016 - 22:36

Evan Reyes

HILLARY CLINTON IS GOING TO START A WAR WITH RUSSIA FUCK THIS

October 7, 2016 - 22:38

Kevin King

reddit.com/r/politics/comments/56dyvg/wikileaks_appears_to_release_hillary_clintons/d8ix41j

Get a load of this fucker

Me: Lmao! Now being Pro-TPP is a good thing, guys!

Dummy: Yes. Yes, it is. What planet are you on?

Me: Also, there's no way you could have read these & found her "more appealing". Now I'm convinced you haven't read them.

Dummy: Seems more pro trade in the leaks I've read so far, which is good. Over in /r/badeconomics the general sentiment is "I wish this Hillary would run for president". We're quite relieved, if anything.

October 7, 2016 - 22:45

Christopher Brooks

That's not really a CTR shill. Neoliberals everywhere and even in the MSM (CNN, NBC, etc.) have been openly wondering when they have to stop pretending to be against the TPP every time it becomes undeniable that HRC is actually for it.

October 7, 2016 - 22:50

Bentley Clark

GRAB HER RIGHT IN THE PUSSY

October 7, 2016 - 22:51

Parker Thomas

This

Though it's really just the usual apple-polishing nerds that want headpats from the Establishment to prove how smart they are

October 7, 2016 - 22:58

Jeremiah Morris

...

October 7, 2016 - 23:01

Jack Garcia

whoops

I never said they were a shill. And all those "progressive" Hillary supporters are full of shit.

October 7, 2016 - 23:01

Ethan Morris

...

October 7, 2016 - 23:51

Austin Sanders

Hey, it was decent. We didn't have one here, either, so it was a good resource for people digging & finding emails. The first thread was hilarious because someone stole Holla Forums's >>>Holla Forums7777777 get.

Besides some asshole posting gore, of course..

October 8, 2016 - 02:29

Thomas Martinez

CTR is really turning up the heat.

Just the other day there was an arstechnica post about how there was evidence that russian hackers fucked with files related to the olympic anti-doping administration (or something like that). In the title it says flat out "ANTI-DOPING, DNC LEAKS FAKED BY RUSSIAN HACKERS" but in the actual article it says the exact opposite, that there was evidence, at least in regards to the DNC leaks, that certain files had been opened/viewed on computers with Russian operating systems, but that there wasn't any evidence of the actual content of the leaks being forged in any way.

All the comments pointing that out were buried or hidden and everything else was about how "oh I always knew that Assange was shady!" and "rip in piece wikileaks!" etc etc.

It's just fucking loathsome. Trying to speak out against it seems like a losing battle because for any one actual poster there are a hundred actual shills, but abandoning it completely to be an unadulterated shill outlet seems just as awful an option.

October 8, 2016 - 03:00

Jonathan Perry

No wonder they've been pushing this "A vote for stein is a vote for trump!" and "third parties just aren't an option in races like this!" so hard. They're afraid they actually might win.

I also love the subtle "Don't worry about the niggers, we've still got them in our pocket :^)" just before that.

October 8, 2016 - 03:04

Lucas Perry

This is what she's getting paid 200k an hour for? She fucking sucks.

October 8, 2016 - 03:10

Caleb Peterson

I don't like circlejerks. Whenever Holla Forums gets too fucking retarded I come here.
Especially thanks to shills. Nobody on any board should allow active raids. Either you actively browse the boards you post on or you shut up.

Both of the boards are the last few semi-popular internet forums with free speech. I bet this board has better free speech than 4chan's. Can't mention the jew unwisely now, hell I even got banned on 8pol

October 8, 2016 - 03:17

Xavier Bennett

Screaming into the wind. This is a desperate measure to cover up a real and popular discussion happening. Just look at the #wikileaks tags.

October 8, 2016 - 04:54

Andrew Martin

bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/2016/10/wikileaks_urging_whistleblowers_to_dig_up_any_dirt_on_donald_trump

October 8, 2016 - 05:41

Xavier Scott

Why aren't you in a socialist party mate?

Nsw greens at least?

October 8, 2016 - 06:20

David Miller

Out of all the things that have been said and done during this election, this willingness to drum up world war III just to get someone elected is to me the most disgusting and horrifying. Go to hell you fucking bastard.

October 8, 2016 - 06:26

Mason Cooper

What can they reveal anyway? He's a rich businessman, corrupt as any other. Hillary has been a central war profiteer and supporter of Wall Street within the government itself for a long time now.

October 8, 2016 - 06:43

Jack Turner

MUH RUSSSSSIANNNNSSSS
archive.is/9fo2d

October 8, 2016 - 06:44

Jonathan Sullivan

HOOOOOLY SHIT WHAT BALLS ON THESE ASSHOLES

October 8, 2016 - 07:07

Brandon Reyes

*Clinton: “At The State Department We Were Attacked Every Hour, More Than Once An Hour By Incoming Efforts To Penetrate Everything We Had. And That Was True Across The U.S. Government.”* CLINTON: But, at the State Department we were attacked every hour, more than once an hour by incoming efforts to penetrate everything we had. And that was true across the U.S. government. And we knew it was going on when I would go to China, or I would go to Russia, we would leave all of our electronic equipment on the plane, with the batteries out, because this is a new frontier. And they're trying to find out not just about what we do in our government. They're trying to find out about what a lot of companies do and they were going after the personal emails of people who worked in the State Department. So it's not like the only government in the world that is doing anything is the United States. But, the United States compared to a number of our competitors is the only government in the world with any kind of safeguards, any kind of checks and balances. They may in many respects need to be strengthened and people need to be reassured, and they need to have their protections embodied in law. But, I think turning over a lot of that material intentionally or unintentionally, because of the way it can be drained, gave all kinds of information not only to big countries, but to networks and terrorist groups, and the like. So I have a hard time thinking that somebody who is a champion of privacy and liberty has taken refuge in Russia under Putin's authority. And then he calls into a Putin talk show and says, President Putin, do you spy on people? And President Putin says, well, from one intelligence professional to another, of course not. Oh, thank you so much. I mean, really, I don't know. I have a hard time following it. [Clinton Speech At UConn, 4/23/14]

Lad Boiled directed by JON WEW

October 8, 2016 - 07:32

Alexander Fisher

gotta modify that priority list

October 8, 2016 - 07:52

Jason Foster

I am honestly getting vibes of Death Race 2000 with this Russian stuff.

October 8, 2016 - 07:54

Christopher Roberts

On the offchance she isn't full of shit, she and her criminal NSA buddies are in no position to bitch and moan about cyberattacks.

October 8, 2016 - 07:56

Eli Sanchez

Holy shit that picture got me.

I'm high & have been up for over 24 hours.. I think it's time for sleep, now.

October 8, 2016 - 08:01

Brayden Hall

or being hacked after leaving your devices/server wide open.

October 8, 2016 - 08:03

Michael Clark

personal*

October 8, 2016 - 08:03

William Gonzalez

...

October 8, 2016 - 08:04

Jacob Walker

Clinton: “At The State Department We Were Attacked Every Hour, More Than Once An Hour By Incoming Efforts To Penetrate Everything We Had. And That Was True Across The U.S. Government.”

Clinton: “So, I thought to myself, why not store state secrets in an email server in my fucking basement?"

October 8, 2016 - 08:05

Brayden Anderson

They really must be freaking the fuck out over these leaks.

October 8, 2016 - 08:05

Hudson Lewis

...

October 8, 2016 - 08:06

Dylan Foster

And this bitch wants to be President.

October 8, 2016 - 08:09

Adam Ortiz

This also. It's like a professional thief leaving a diamond necklace they just stole on their front lawn and having it stolen, then expecting people who know they're a professional thief to be surprised and outraged over it.

October 8, 2016 - 08:09

Christian Campbell

It's a bunch of really incriminating stuff that paints Clinton in an even worse light than before. The increased shrillness of the "NO NO YOU STUPID IDIOTS THIS IS GOOD THIS IS GREAT IT MAKES HER LOOK PRESIDENTIAL IT MAKES HER LOOK LIKE A LEADER AND BRIDGE BUILDER" coming from the CTR shills makes it seem like they're in a complete fucking panic about this shit.

October 8, 2016 - 08:10

Juan Young

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/99
>On Jul 30, 2015, at 11:30 PM, Brian Fallon > wrote: This may require us to articulate the difference bt us and B████ sooner than we thought.

"What? No, we never had it in for B████ from the beginning. It was a neutral, fair primary process :^)"

October 8, 2016 - 08:23

Hudson Richardson

The HBO sitcom Veep had a plotline where the President caused a leak by being careless and then blamed China to cover her ass. There is no line between parody and reality any more.

October 8, 2016 - 08:26

Jason Peterson

is veep worth watching?

October 8, 2016 - 08:29

Aaron Harris

...

October 8, 2016 - 08:33

Bentley Anderson

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/1073
>On Oct 24, 2015, at 10:59 AM, Joel Benenson > wrote: It’s a joke that would work and room would love it. However one caveat: I think it gives B████ the credit for putting the email crap behind us instead of her — she crushed the debate and she crushed at the committee.. And while crowd may love it question for comms team is whether reporters would take it as proof that B████ “saved” her campaign from the email tempest.

Good thing they got that whole messy email business behind them

October 8, 2016 - 08:37

Josiah Lewis

Here they are subtly advertising for a Western invasion of Syria and war against Russia in a faked humanitarian tone: theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/oct/08/destruction-aleppo-russia-massacre-civilians-grozny
But look at the comments, nobody is buying it. What a fucking humiliation that must be when even moralizing can't do the job, and it happens pretty often lately. There's nothing worse for liberal media than when their obnoxious circle jerk shatters to pieces.
Also, there's not a single article about Clinton on their front page, while there's a bunch against Trump right at the top. Maybe it's become too farcical even to them to still glorify Clinton. They don't want to alienate too much of their readership after all. Alienated readers radicalize themselves even further when you keep throwing blatant propaganda at them. That's what's happening across all MSM already.

October 8, 2016 - 08:38

Austin Lewis

Of course they are. The leaks cause a number of things:

1. It is splitting the Democrats between neoliberals/centrists and progressives/reformists
2. It'll likely cost Hilary the election due to the above
3. Even if Hilary still wins, there's enough paydirt here for an extended legal battle with the House Oversight committee. Given how even Obama couldn't hold them back during the midterms, this means more Democrat losses downballot
4. The Democrat brand itself is tarnished, which causes swing states to swing Republican
5. Overall, it indicates a lack of competence on part of the DNC's IT staff, which means donors are less likely to trust them
6. And ultimately, it's outside the Democrats' control. They are going to scream and holler about Russia to no end out of pure frustration

October 8, 2016 - 09:07

Nathaniel Fisher

At the end of this, you get the Democrats screaming and going off a tangent about Russia, Trump, and grabbin' pussies while Trump himself sticks to bread and butter policies Americans care about (the TPP, Chinese trade, NAFTA, etc).

They're self defeating, this is what happens when the brains of the party become isolated from the base.

October 8, 2016 - 09:08

Nicholas Richardson

Is that how these people think?
'Doesn't count cuz he was on the other team then'
jesus

October 8, 2016 - 09:10

Kevin Nelson

imo it was a clever ruse

October 8, 2016 - 09:11

Justin Parker

CTR has gone full retard and knows they can't spin this so they're just going to ignore reality, spew total garbage and hope most people don't bother to actually read any further. But it won't work, even on reddit everyone knows what is really happening outside of /r/politics (which is no longer a default sub by the way). And the leftwing TV media are almost totally irrelevant now, because the majority of TV viewers are old fucks who vote Republican and watch Fox.

October 8, 2016 - 09:11

Isaac Hall

sorry, "leftwing"

October 8, 2016 - 09:12

Noah Ramirez

This is why they can't attack Wikileaks openly but have to resort to >muh russia.

October 8, 2016 - 09:12

Hunter Carter

It's pretty funny. I hear that Washington insiders find it accurate which is scary. The cast is a good ensemble that represent the different types of people in that line of work. It's one of the few HBO shows without nudity or violence that I can recall but it makes up the difference in the language and the context. It's a lot better than House of Cards, which takes itself way too seriously for something that could have been written by a high schooler.

October 8, 2016 - 09:14

Gabriel Kelly

100% it won't matter if Trump falls on his own sword tomorrow.

October 8, 2016 - 09:16

Noah Powell

sick imma give it a watch.

also check this out if you haven't:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thick_of_It
best seasons are third and fourth.

October 8, 2016 - 09:18

Jackson Martin

nah, he learned his lesson from the first debate. All he has to do is stay cool, stay on policy, and don't get dragged into the gutter and let Hilary come off as bitchy and more concerned with scandals than policy.

But I'm also of the opinion that at this point, neither can "win" the as because the only people watching them have already made up their minds. The vast majority of undecideds will simply vote down the party line if they bother to turn out.

October 8, 2016 - 09:24

Jackson Morris

If you ask me House of Cards is actually a kind of subtle propaganda. It makes it seem like politicians still have power, like it's not all just a spectacle, when it's actually more the case that these people are brainwashed by ideology and follow the system as much as anyone else.

October 8, 2016 - 09:26

Connor Allen

As weird as I am, I can't help but suspect there's a significant number of people who could, like me, be persuaded to vote Trump out of Posaidistaccelerationist nihilism toward the present status quo.

October 8, 2016 - 09:28

Charles Jones

As someone who has worked in legislative circles for some time (about ~15 years), it's split. Legislators tend to be reflective of their base; for example purple district Democrats know they have to work hard to justify their existence to local unions while urban democrats don't give any fucks and simply want to ban everything (guns, cigarettes, soda, plastic bags, trains, etc) because it's what their base wants. They're completely brainless in this regard.

Bureaucrats are much smarter and have more power (as they ultimately determine the policy, such as design requirements for a bridge or train station) but also have zero budget power. They have to request money, and justify the need. This is where legislators (and often community activists especially NIMBYs) can get involved and completely fuck them. See the pissing match over making San Francisco's Muni trains ADA compliant, despite it being the fucking law (federal law, even) local legislators were/are able to effectively block implementation (going on 20 years now).

House of Cards isn't too wrong, but severely underestimates how isolated and braindead most beltway politicians are. They rely on their staffs and statisticians for everything and rarely have any vision.

October 8, 2016 - 09:36

Juan Bennett

crashing this party etc

(insert another bane joke here)

October 8, 2016 - 09:37

Joseph Cox

Not every strategy that thinks two steps ahead or sees the complexity of the situation is "accelerationism". Letting Trump win means antagonizing the establishment at the least, while Hillary is the one that's going to accelerate the system a step further than Bush and Obama did. She's the real accelerationist candidate.

October 8, 2016 - 09:42

Connor Martin

A-
Original yet lacking imagination.

[ x ] Grab them by the pussy
[ ] War Hawk
No victory but someone has to lose.

October 8, 2016 - 09:45

Blake Stewart

An interesting philosophical conundrum, which is more accelerationist?

October 8, 2016 - 09:48

Cooper Moore

Neither can they really "win" the election either. No matter the outcome, the next president will be facing a huge public confidence crisis and the implosion of their party, not to mention even more scandals.

It's going to be a fucking mess of an administration.

October 8, 2016 - 09:50

Joshua Scott

nope, both sides can just blabber on and people will tune out, except those who actually care (and who likely have already made up their minds anyway)

I also doubt Hilary will bring any of this up, she's not that stupid. She's focusing on the goods and that was the recent accusation her friends at the state department threw at Russia. She'll go full war hawk and claim Trump isn't a true patriot.

October 8, 2016 - 09:50

Austin Sanders

Trump can win. If he actually does win (which I think is possible, a 50% chance of happening), it'll be a watershed moment. He may have a confidence crisis in the polls, but he'll have Congress for at least two years (if not longer, depending on how quickly the Dems regroup). The GOP will move vaguely left, as Trump will replace libertarianism with nationaism as the party's mode of operation.

Hilary is a different story, she has an active House investigation on her ass which has all the dirt they need. Impeachment is likely (much like with Bill), though in effect it'd just be a vote of no confidence. She's not able to accomplish anything.

October 8, 2016 - 09:55

Xavier Rodriguez

You can't be serious fam.

October 8, 2016 - 09:57

Connor Gomez

Are you being sarcastic? I can't tell.

Hilary isn't going to go for stupidly low blows when most voters want to see her be "presidental" and "above" things like Trump's video. And the "fuck Russia" angle works very well as it casts herself (and the US as a whole) as a victim and Trump/the GOP as Russian terrorists/infiltrators. She can go full Red Scare here and Americans will eat it up.

October 8, 2016 - 10:07

Nolan Sanchez

Even if the Republicans take Congress, they won't do shit with him if he doesn't have decent approval ratings. They want to stay elected. Hell, they're already abandoning him after this pussy scandal.

I tell you, Congress is where the real drama is going to happen in the next couple years. They're going to feel the hurt from this election more than anyone.

October 8, 2016 - 10:09

Jacob Green

but that was literally what she spent most of the first debate doing and the voters loved it for some reason

October 8, 2016 - 10:16

Daniel Rogers

Someone's going to lose nigga. Between the inevitable stalemate and the advantage to set the precedent, it'll be harder on Trump with a risk of snowballing.

October 8, 2016 - 10:20

Jack Perry

What matters is that he would have won. This would be a big signal to everyone inside the GOP that his brand sticks and that they should work with him. Remember, the Republicans spent everything they had trying to stop them but could not. Individual legislators will not fight their base, if Trump wins then they'll work with him or otherwise they'll get primary'd, like how they themselves primary'd the neocons six years ago.

Of course they're only "turning" on him to cover their asses now, but like all legislators they will be doing a 180 if the conditions suit it.

Democrats themselves aren't prone to obstructionism like Tea Partiers are, as is Trump (who, being a businessman himself, wants budgets on time) so even if they were to mount a comeback it would just be a pissing match over SJW crap and abortions.

On that note, if Hilary wins then Congress will actually matter because the TPers would remain in control of the GOP and simply say No to everything while investigating her.

October 8, 2016 - 10:23

Juan Smith

No, her base liked it. People who have already made up their minds. That's my point.

October 8, 2016 - 10:30

Julian Richardson

I don't really believe in accelerationism, more neoliberalism (Clinton) isn't going to magically make the system collapse, it will simply mean more neoliberalism, both in ideology and practice, which is what I fear the most. Trump isn't going to crash the system either, he doesn't have that power. But his presidency as an orange clown means at least two things:
1) a symbolic "fuck you" to what the establishment offers now and to the fake democracy of two party system - this has consequences for both the policies offered in the future and the people's confidence in their own power to shake and blackmail the establishment (people forget that it's not just the establishment/Clinton that can blackmail us with Trump, we can do the exact same thing to them too);
2) there will be a radicalization of the difference between left and right because of Trump polarizing people while Clinton's bots (that are now attacking and dividing leftists) will become irrelevant.
There might be a danger that Trump will make all the soft leftists run back to centrist TINA positions ("it wasn't actually that bad before"), but I doubt that's possible in the current climate that is pretty steady for more than just a few years now. People now speak positively about socialism after all.

October 8, 2016 - 10:30

Adam Ross

The point of the TV debates, at least officially, is to convert moderates and undecideds. While this isn't reflective of reality it's what Hilary is operating on. And, on that basis, hammering Russia will give her better results than whining about socjus crap most Americans (especially swing staters) do not care about.

Potential soundbyte: Remember 9/11? Russia has killed thousands of Syrians. Donald Trump wants to Russia. Our grandparents died on the beaches of Normandy to stop people like him. As President, I will protect America and America's muslims from all threats, foreign (points at Trump) and domestic. etc

October 8, 2016 - 10:30

Matthew Adams

Trump: fuck hilary also republican talking points

Hilary: fuck trump also democrat talking points

very exciting is it not??

October 8, 2016 - 10:35

Sebastian Hernandez

Unless Trump is maintains his abysmal approval ratings when he enters the White House, something which is incredibly likely with both candidates. Then it would important to distance yourself from the inevitable fallout that will occur since you'll be the first on the chopping block.

I think a lot of armchair polticos are going to get a harsh dose of reality this election when they realize a candidate can win and still lose.

October 8, 2016 - 10:39

Benjamin Wright

I really, really hope Trump can, whether directly or through his indirect influence as a political phenomenon, purge the subhumans from the American left. But the issue of the whole post-Clinton era sticks in my mind:

Did Dubya successfully drive people away from New Democrat horseshit, causing Dean and Obama to rise as (failed) attempts at reform, and Obama is the one responsible for our current mess? This is what I think, but I'm unsure enough to make me worry about Trump.

Or is Obama just an extension of Dubya, under whom the SJW cooption of leftism advanced to levels of cancerousness as yet unseen?

October 8, 2016 - 10:38

David Gutierrez

The government should be made to give citations when they talk shit like this. It's such obvious propaganda.

October 8, 2016 - 10:46

Jack Russell

Are you American? The only people with an approval rating lower than Trump is Congress itself. Has been the case since 2010. But, lo and behold, that hasn't stopped them and they've only gotten stronger. His party will not revolt on him because their bases love him. This is why they tried so hard during the primaries to get him to loose, and why most top Republicans pulled their endorsements and hope he looses. It's an internal power game and Trump wins IF he becomes President.

Hilary is a different story, because she can't control Congress. If Trump looses then the Teafags (aka Cruz) will obtain control of the party and begin their crusade against her so they can win in 2020. Obviously they can't do this with Trump.

October 8, 2016 - 10:49

Ayden Jenkins

Close. Bush killed the neocon movement Reagan championed. His invasion of Iraq was such a complete disaster that it almost killed the GOP. This is how the Tea Party could stage their coup in 2010. It was this huge fuckup that nuked people's faith in the "traditional" establishment narrative. It was how Obama could beat Hilary.

As for Obama, he's directly responsible for Trump because none of this would be happening if he was a better President. All he had to do, baseline, was kill free trade. This did not happen and the Democrats kept bleeding voters as a result. It's why the House Democrats attempted, unsuccessfully, to repeal NAFTA in 2013. That same year Obama had the last rounds of official TPP negotiations and Snowden leading to the Senate flipping Republican in 2014. Detroit also went bankrupt that year, as Michegan flipped completely red like Wisconsin previously had.

All people wanted was jobs.

October 8, 2016 - 10:55

Gavin Phillips

Also, as a point of reference the nu-democrats/neoliberals' line to "lower" democrats was that they needed to retrain for "real" jobs. This would be accomplished by taking out student loans and taking tech jobs. Of course nobody bought this, it was a total about face and people left the party. This is especially true as even tech jobs begin to be outsourced to places like India and Ukraine. Democrats didn't keep their elitism in check.

They shit on their base and made no attempt to help them, so of course they turned. And it's also for this reason why Trump can win, because these people are so desperate and frustrated that they will believe whatever bullshit as long as someone enacts tariffs to protect their jobs.

October 8, 2016 - 10:59

Andrew Davis

Obama is definitely worse than Bush in my eyes, and Clinton will be worse than Obama, although more as an extension of the same, with new wars to come.
The situation now is a bit different though. Bush wasn't such a clown as Trump is, he appeared laughably stupid in public but he was part of the establishment. Trump is simply outrages in comparison. In the meantime 2008 crash happened, and S█████ was able to popularize an actual alternative that a lot of people strongly believe in. And they won't forget about how Obama duped them, so anything soft is now seen with suspicion.

October 8, 2016 - 11:03

Christopher Baker

The recession was the spark that ignited this neocon shitheap, but you're right Bush's Iraq/Afghanistan quagmire was what piled it up beforehand. And while I honestly think neoliberalism may have been a slow weed to grow under Obama before Trump brought it to the fore, I agree Obama's embarrassing handling of Wikileaks and privacy was the major issue in finally alienating him from the left.

In any case, what I'm thinking of isn't so much what's happened in the enemy camps, but the SJW infestation that's stymieing every effort to get anything done here on the far left. Bottom line: Would Trump be the cleansing flame we need, or would he strengthen their iron grasp on our windpipe even more?

Radicalizing anger from the progressive (kek) failures of Occupy and [REDACTED] do indeed seem to be positive forces, but that still hasn't lead to the kind of activism we really need. Regarding Dubya, remember that he wasn't just seen as a clown at the time, many on the left were cartoonishly apocalyptic about his every act.

October 8, 2016 - 11:10

Lincoln Myers

It's not SJWs causing problems, they're a nuisance but the real problem are older boomers who want the status quo. People who live outside of reality in suburbs (in homes they purchased in the 70s and 80s of course) and can't even conceive of a situation where workers should have rights (because unions are the lazy people who drive trains and buses for the poor and millenials).

Wikileaks' angle is truly hilarious, as they alone have completely foiled the Democrat's plans. If it wasn't for Snowden the Democrats might have had a shot at duping millenials like they did with boomers. This didn't happen, and the more recent DNCleaks and guccifer leaks (and the ones this week) have sealed it. The Dems have a huge branding problem and they have nothing left other than to blame Russia.

October 8, 2016 - 11:43

Jaxon Ortiz

That's because we don't need activism but militancy.

October 8, 2016 - 11:45

Andrew Robinson

That's because people generally support their congressperson but hate congress as a whole.

October 8, 2016 - 11:45

Hudson Martin

This doublethink is so fucking crazy

October 8, 2016 - 11:47

Thomas Robinson

Most Americans barely have a clue about how the government functions and I willing to bet over 75% of American voters can't even name their congressperson. It's so easy for someone to blame an enigma for all their problems.

October 8, 2016 - 11:53

Jacob Howard

but there's basically no point in knowing who the congresspersons are. they're bourgeois.

October 8, 2016 - 11:58

Lincoln Davis

I've noticed the past week or so /r/politics has been almost exclusively about how trump hates women because he says mean things about some women sometimes. Hell the first debate moderator brought it up at the last second and hillary started laughing like some super villian, yet anyone claiming biased debates is an evil trump supporter. If you want to go deeper down the rabbit hole I'd suggest you check out /r/politicaldiscussion, where the clinton emails and health issues are Russian conspiracies and Assange is an anti-democrat traitor.

October 8, 2016 - 12:32

Julian Ramirez

Still surprised that they haven't really gone with the "Russia could have edited the emails to make her sound worse!" angle

October 8, 2016 - 12:38

Nicholas Ross

What is the possibility that Clinton will actually win by a surprisingly large margin because all the liberals and pseudo-leftists that are now undecided will say to themselves "fuck it, before we were debating, but now comes the actual decision" and vote for her? Cases like this have happened before, people are prone to comprise big time when pressured to make a final choice, not to mention that they often make a distinction between their public endorsement and their vote. I doubt this can happen for Trump considering he's much more polarizing.

This elections are so fucking depressing, and I'm not even from the US. We have shilling for Hillary in our only "leftist" magazine as well, the deliberate stupidity is becoming unbearable. If there's anything good in Hillary winning is getting satisfaction from knowing how shitty all these people will feel when it becomes too obvious that Clinton is everything we were warning about. Of course at that point they will have amnesia.

October 8, 2016 - 15:08

Ryan Reed

I think the opposite is expected, i.e. both candidates will drive undecideds away from voting

No, they'll double down and convince themselves that actually contrary to all evidence otherwise she's actually a really good president.

Look at reddit's reactions to the new leaks for an example. It's now "Hey, if anything these new emails show how hella epic Clinton is!".
Sure some will be CTR but most are just dyed-in-the-wool party loyalists - if they convinced themselves that Obama was a great president I'm sure they can do the same for Hillary.

October 8, 2016 - 15:15

Nathan Gonzalez

John McCain is the latest big name republican to abandon Trump
nytimes.com/2016/10/08/us/politics/presidential-election.html?_r=0
What I love about this is that McCain was apparently fine with Trump mocking him for getting tortured in Vietnam and his support for waterboarding but NOW he's gone too far.

October 8, 2016 - 15:31

Ryder Thomas

inthesetimes.com/article/19410/clinton-trump-and-the-triumph-of-ideology

October 8, 2016 - 15:36

Lincoln Morales

WIKILEAKS CONFIRMS TRUMP IS A CLINTON PLANT

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/784908158426869761

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

October 8, 2016 - 17:39

Oliver Price

Low. Liberals and pseudo-leftists made up their minds months ago. Again, the fact that they even self-identity as "leftist" means they're just going to vote down the party ticket anyway. Don't try to over-analyze this.

In a pure party-line vote Trump holds an advantage as Dem turnout has dropped in many swing states, making them red. Liberals and moderates might loathe Trump but it doesn't matter if they live in cosmopolitan states (ie CA, IL, NY, Mass). Hilary's problem is that she won't be able to inspire large turnout, because nobody likes her. Progressives in states like Wisconsin and Michegan (which have already flipped red) will stay home.

lol, no they won't. They'll defend her sinking ship all the way to rock bottom.

October 8, 2016 - 17:51

Michael Howard

So Hilary tried to make the election easier for herself, but instead opened pandora's box. Funny.

October 8, 2016 - 17:52

William Bell

...

October 8, 2016 - 17:52

Christopher Cook

This puts Hillary's desperation in a whole new light. They really fucked up this time.

October 8, 2016 - 17:53

John Sanders

Even when cheating, Hillary is a complete failure.

October 8, 2016 - 17:54

Jason Perry

...

October 8, 2016 - 17:58

Adrian James

The damage control on the twitter replies is hilarious.

October 8, 2016 - 18:00

Connor Perez

I honestly can't tell the difference between Holla Forums and Holla Forums anymore. Put the porkies and Jews together, it's impossible to tell which is which.

October 8, 2016 - 18:01

Jose Myers

Shillary's plan is going to consume her entirely. Even if she manages to defeat Trump, the Democrats will be forever scarred.

Just in time for the Halloween season, we get another adaptation of Frankenstein on the NATIONAL STAGE.

October 8, 2016 - 18:04

Aaron Evans

Holy shit, can someone meme-ify this. Sharing this in email form in S█████ groups is like throwing pasta at the wall and watching it fall. They're a bunch of depressed, sulky, do-nothing drones right now.

October 8, 2016 - 18:04

Hunter Kelly

Take this and shoop it with Hillary and Trump.

October 8, 2016 - 18:05

Caleb Harris

no I mean with some reference to the source

October 8, 2016 - 18:07

Nathaniel Brown

It isn't working. At the very least (ie using liberal MSM polls) Trump is tied with her (within the MOE) in almost all polls. At the very worst (ie using the LA Times poll or similar) he's actually beating her by a small margin. And, regardless, Trump has polarized the country such that the House GOP have carte blanche to keep their investigation into her open. This would destroy her efficacy as President.

Hilary thought she could just let Trump go full retard and let people decide for themselves. But she forgot that Americans are stupid and Trump is a good salesman. He has about half the country behind him, regardless if he can win or not. Public discourse in America is forever ruined.

October 8, 2016 - 18:08

Tyler Barnes

It's not nearly close to half. Remember, Trump and Hillary the most hated candidates of recent history.

Trump has about half of the votes maybe, but that's probably not even a quarter of the actual population. Even less when you discount those that are "supporting" him only to vote against Hillary.

October 8, 2016 - 18:18

John Foster

To be fair, Trump seems to be the only one she actually stands a chance against.

Except maybe Jeb.

October 8, 2016 - 18:22

Noah Morales

...

October 8, 2016 - 18:24

William Torres

This is something that cannot be overstated. This election really has Americans between a rock and a hard place.

Any information you get about it has to be taken with the understanding that the general population is absolutely disgusted with this circus.

October 8, 2016 - 18:28

Blake Robinson

ok, let me rephrase: half of voters. When broken up by the electoral college Trump will easily net 40% of the vote, baseline. This is why swing states are so important.

October 8, 2016 - 18:40

Landon Perez

PURE IDEOLOGY
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October 8, 2016 - 18:40

Ryder Sanchez

youtube.com/watch?v=ThsmumFc1Kc

October 8, 2016 - 18:44

Josiah Carter

That's also a good argument for co-ops vs state ownership of industry.

It should be a webm imo

October 8, 2016 - 19:05

Kevin Evans

This same guy was enlightened just after a short convo with another user though. It was an innocent question. Other twits are far worse:
twitter.com/Braveswyn/status/784922181536997376

October 8, 2016 - 19:15

Mason Bailey

USA CONTROLLED BY ZIONISTS
(no joke)
wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/272
American students who support Palestinians are terrorists.

October 8, 2016 - 19:25

Jose Morris

Comparing Israel to SA and China, kek

October 8, 2016 - 19:34

Jacob Rivera

The most ironic statement I've seen in a looooong time.

October 8, 2016 - 19:43

Jace Sullivan

CNN is now publishing new "leaks" of Trump saying stupid shit on howard stern a decade ago. Nothing they are publishing is working, because ultimately the material isn't that scandalous compared to confidential DNC emails. And, more importantly, the media have been going full retard trying to "burn" Trump on everything with little to show for it. We're now getting into a cry wolf situation where people are just desensitized to it all.

Meanwhile, every new DNC leak gives Congress more ammo against Hilary. She cannot win under any circumstance as a result.

October 8, 2016 - 19:47

John Howard

youtube.com/watch?v=61B2oN5tV3M
THEME SONG FOR THIS ELECTION

The song about the class enemy

1.
When I was young, I went to school,
and I learned what is mine, and what is yours.
And when all had been learned,
it seemed to me that it was not all.
And I had no breakfast to eat,
and others, they had:
And thus in the end I learned all, indeed
about the nature of the class enemy.
And I learned, why and for what reason
there is a rift across the world.
And it remains between us, since the rain
falls downwards.

2.
And they said to me: If I am well-behaved,
then I'll become their kind.
But I thought: If I'm a sheep,
I'll never become butcher.
And I saw one and another of us
who took the bait.
And when to him happened what happened
to you and to me,
then he was astonished.
But as for me, I wasn't amazed,
soon I discovered what their game is:
The rain, as it is, falls downwards
and, as it is, doesn't fall upwards.

3.
Here I heard the drum being bet,
and everybody talked about this:
Now we should wage wars
for a little place in the sun.
And hoarse voices promised us
everything under the sun.
And fat-bellied bigwigs
shouted: Don't get wimpish now!
And we believed: Now there are only hours left,
then we'll have this and that.
But the rain once more fell downwards,
and during four years we guzzled grass.

4.
And once, it was said at once:
Now, let's make Republic!
And one man here is equal to another,
be he meager or fat.
And those who were flat from hunger
never were as full of hope.
But those who ate their fill,
were full of hope like them.
And I said: Something there can't add up
and I was filled with dismal doubts:
That doesn't add up, that the rain
is supposed to flow upwards.

5.
They gave us slips of paper to vote,
we gave away the arms.
They made us a promise,
and we gave our rifle.
And we heard: those who understand about it,
they now would help us.
We should go about work,
they would do the rest.
There once again I let myself affect
and, like it was called for, I kept still
and thought: that's fair on behalf of rain
that it wants to flow upwards.

October 8, 2016 - 19:48

Connor Cruz

6.
And soon after I heard sayings,
now all has been put right already.
If we support the lesser evil
then we will be exempted from the bigger one.
And we swallowed the shaveling Brüning,
so it not be the Papen.
And we swallowed the junker Papen,
because otherwise it was the Schleicher's turn.
And the shaveling gave it to the junker,
and the junker gave it to the general.
And the rain fell downwards,
and it fell a thumping lot.

7.

While we went around with ballot papers,
they closed down factories.
When we slept in front of dole offices,
we left them alone.
We heard sayings like these:
Always calm! Only just wait!
After a major crisis
comes a major boom!
And I told my colleagues:
That's how the class enemy speaks!
When this one talks about good time,
it's all about his time.
The rain cannot do it upwards,
just because suddenly it is well-intentioned
towards us.
What it can, is: it can stop,
namely when the sun shines.

8.

One day I saw them marching,
behind new flags.
And many of ours said:
There's no more class enemy.
There ahead of them I saw
mugs, I already knew them,
and I heard voices roaring
in the old sergeant-like tone.
And quietly through the flags and the celebrations
the rain fell night and day.
And anyone who lay on the street,
could feel it.

9.

They exercised themselves in shooting
and loudly spoke about the enemy
and pointed franticly across the border.
And it was us they meant.
Because us and them, we are enemies
in a war that only one wins.
Because they live on us and croak,
if we aren't the coolies any more.
And it's for that why
you oughtn't be astonished,
if they throw themselves on us, like the rain
throws itself on the soil.

October 8, 2016 - 19:49

Bentley Sanders

10.

And he among us who starved to death,
he died in a battle.
And he among us who died,
he has been bumped off.
He whom they fetched with their soldiers,
starving discomfited him.
He whom they smashed the mandible,
he had asked for bread.
He whom they promised bread,
now they prey on him.
And he whom they bring in the zinc coffin,
he told the truth.
An he who then had believed them about it,
when they pretended being his friends,
what he at that time had expected was,
that the rain falls upwards.

11.

For we are class enemies,
whatever they tell us:
He among us who didn't dare to fight,
he dared to starve.
We are class enemies, drummer!
This, your drumming doesn't drown it out!
factory owner, general and junker -
our enemy, that's what you are!
About this, nothing will be displaced,
there, nothing will be put right!
The rain doesn't fall upwards,
and for sure it's not what we ask him to!

12.

Your painter may brush all he can,
he won't smear over the rift!
One stays and one ought to yield,
either me or you.
And whatever I'll learn yet,
this is what remains as the basics:
Never I have anything in common
with the matter of the class enemy.
The word will not be found
that ever might unite both of us.
The rain falls upwards down.
And you are my class enemy.

October 8, 2016 - 19:49

Anthony Lee

They are literally dictating her what to do.

October 8, 2016 - 19:50

Landon Long

of course they are, Hilary has no brain. She's a politician who simply computes responses to programming supplied by advisors

October 8, 2016 - 20:15

Jackson Cooper

This is not coming simply from advisors but from Israel.

October 8, 2016 - 20:20

Christian Green

who do you think the advisors are?

hint: starts with j and ends with w

October 8, 2016 - 20:20

Nathan Jones

reddit.com/r/politics/comments/56k3vy/new_email_dump_reveals_that_hillary_clinton_is/

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

We need to nuke r/politics already. I don't know why I even look there. It's just interesting seeing the delusion/astroturfing taking place, I guess.

October 8, 2016 - 21:49

Landon Jenkins

It's going to bite them back in the long term. What use is there in being a propagandist if everyone knows you're one?

October 8, 2016 - 21:55

Aiden Ward

That's true.

I wish there was a different political subreddit. The other user said the r/worldnews is also shit. I was wanting one for US politics.

October 8, 2016 - 22:10

Carter Ward

It's deffo astroturfing. Moderators are going out of their way to censor anything contrary to the CTR spin machine, but a few comments dare to speak out (only to be denounced by the troll machine).

Reddit is such a shit platform anyway. It's tailor-made for "correcting the record".

October 8, 2016 - 22:16

Nathan Hall

God bless Aaron Schwartz

October 8, 2016 - 22:18

Anthony Jackson

post this to pol

October 8, 2016 - 22:26

Elijah King

it's not even a default sub anymore, so quit getting so worked up over them

October 8, 2016 - 22:27

David Price

Reddit is based on a capitalistic model of accumulation (upvotes) and branding (usernames), including the twisting of the rules that having influence implies (mods). It has the same structure as the media world: mainstream views are constantly displayed and repeated, while alternative ones are overshadowed, hidden, and attacked. I don't see any reason to use reddit at all.
Imageboards on the contrary are anarchistic. We all get an equal voice with no names attached, so the power of the content is what really matters instead of enforced statuses, but it's also a bit more chaotic and unpredictable which is not necessarily bad either.

October 8, 2016 - 22:30

Angel Hughes

lick my butthole

October 8, 2016 - 22:30

Leo Martinez

It hurts.

October 8, 2016 - 22:34

Hunter Jackson

Hillary Clinton is socialist. I believe she represents almost everything B████ ██████ did. Can't we get along and vote for her, since she's the only socialist person who can beat Trump? Jill has no chance and you are only stealing votes from Hillary.

After all, all her supporters respect Marxism, and if we will reshape our society, everyone will be happy just like in real socialism.

October 8, 2016 - 22:35

Jaxson Robinson

people are stupid and worship spooks, in a similar manner as people demand mass surveillance, harsh punishments, and gun control. God is the dream of good government

inb4 someone accuses me of being Holla Forums

October 8, 2016 - 22:42

Jordan Edwards

...

October 8, 2016 - 22:47

Lincoln White

Protestantism was a mistake

October 8, 2016 - 22:56

Nathaniel Russell

We will vote for your candidate only if in the upcoming debate she looks at the camera and says: "Bebe, you and your Zionist basket of deplorables can go suck Hamas' long tunnels!"
This kind of policy is our main priority, so let her know that we're not making any compromises.
(We will also offer our CTR services if she publicly endorses the BDS movement.)

October 8, 2016 - 22:57

Adam Clark

...

October 8, 2016 - 22:59

Ryder Allen

Would love to see the results TBH.

October 8, 2016 - 23:05

Dylan Wright

catholicism is worse, if only because it is full-blown spook worship

October 9, 2016 - 00:10

Chase Lee

They literally worship a ghost.

October 9, 2016 - 00:13

Adam Stewart

Oh I didn't realise you were discussing flavours of Christianity.

They all worship a ghost.

October 9, 2016 - 00:14

Ethan Rodriguez

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/784881899688828928

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/927#attachments

Hillary is the real deplorable, here. She pretends to care about these issues, when she doesn't & is worse for them.

October 9, 2016 - 00:59

Caleb Morales

The propaganda is real. This is the same outlet that said "hurr B████ not know banking", when it was them who didn't have their shit together. Tabloid garbage, I know, but not much different than the "news" outlets today.

October 9, 2016 - 01:00

John Brooks

I'd argue catholicism is worse as the money is boxed and shipped to rome. Protestant churches at least keep the wealth local, making it easier for people to seize it.

October 9, 2016 - 01:11

Ayden Mitchell

Well, Protestantism gave us capitalism, so there's that.

October 9, 2016 - 01:44

Aiden Hill

They're trying to push it, but so far it hasn't caught on.

Found this the other night. Related I think:
wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/1805

One of my coworkers actually cited Pence praying before senate meetings or whatever as a/the reason he's voting for Trump instead of the godless, liberal Hillary.

October 9, 2016 - 02:23

Lucas Peterson

Singularity when?

October 9, 2016 - 02:52

Leo Diaz

SHE'S NOT LYING TO THE PUBLIC GUYS!!! SHE'S JUST BEING DISHONEST WITH US!!! COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THINGS!!!

October 9, 2016 - 03:48

Ryan Peterson

AND PUBLIC VS. PRIVATE OPINION? OF COURSE! WHAT ARE YOU, NAIVE OF HOW THINGS WORK? OH, AND THOSE TRANSCRIPTS YOU WANTED? THEY'VE BEEN RELEASED FOR MONTHS NOW & AVAILABLE ON YOUTUBE, TOO! YOU'VE JUST BEEN TOO LAZY TO LOOK! OMG STOP BEING SUCH A CONSPIRACY NUT! THIS IS A RIGHT-WING/RUSSIAN CONSPIRACY, GUISE! CLINTON-DERANGEMENT SYNDROME! THEY CAN'T FIND ANYTHING ON HER BECAUSE SHE'S ACTUALLY SO CLEAN!

reddit.com/r/politics/comments/56k3vy/new_email_dump_reveals_that_hillary_clinton_is/d8jxkyj

reddit.com/r/politics/comments/56k3vy/new_email_dump_reveals_that_hillary_clinton_is/d8jybeh

reddit.com/r/politics/comments/56k3vy/new_email_dump_reveals_that_hillary_clinton_is/d8jzg6c

reddit.com/r/politics/comments/56k3vy/new_email_dump_reveals_that_hillary_clinton_is/d8jyck8

reddit.com/r/politics/comments/56k3vy/new_email_dump_reveals_that_hillary_clinton_is/d8k0vp1

October 9, 2016 - 04:03

Evan Fisher

I wish I could kill everyone in this thread.

October 9, 2016 - 04:13

Benjamin Thompson

You & me both, user.

October 9, 2016 - 04:15

Bentley Thompson

Burgers absolutely need to experience nuclear hellfire.

October 9, 2016 - 04:17

Joshua Ward

Hillary Clinton is an ayyy lmao.

express.co.uk/news/weird/719054/Hillary-Clinton-aliens-Wikileaks-e-mails-UFOs-star-wars-ETs

October 9, 2016 - 04:38

Brandon Reed

what does it mean?

October 9, 2016 - 08:30

Adrian Gray

Russia has a huge oil business. She states in her "secret speech" that she is an environmentalist, but that there still exist environmentalist groups that are funded by the Russian government to protect their oil interests. This should not be a controversial statement and WikiLeaks is grossly exaggerating it, which should not be surprising considering WikiLeaks also originated as a Russian intelligence clearing house operation.

October 9, 2016 - 08:41

Connor Perez

TYT Politics discussing the media blackout on DNC Leaks and the circle jerk on Trump's pussy grabbing:

youtube.com/watch?v=696NxG_6x5M

October 9, 2016 - 08:50

Christopher Stewart

Yeah, I'm sure that'll make things better.

October 9, 2016 - 08:55

Hunter Ramirez

Michael Moore: "Trump is a human molotov coctail to be thrown into the political system"
youtube.com/watch?v=cfqRJg4TczY

October 9, 2016 - 09:50

Nicholas Gomez

Is it me or is the thread mainly about people questioning why the sub is so pro-hilary?

October 9, 2016 - 11:27

Hunter Morgan

I'm sorry Mike, I'm really sorry, but the possibility of having Trump in with the entire system arrayed against him, rather than the certainty of Clinton (again) with the entire system more firmly behind her than at anyone before her, after what happened to [REDACTED]? I just can't do it any more. We need to burn it down, while people are still angry enough, we need Trump.

October 9, 2016 - 11:51

Easton King

theintercept.com/2016/10/09/exclusive-new-email-leak-reveals-clinton-campaigns-cozy-press-relationship/
Guccifer 2.0 sent the Intercept more documents on the Clinton camp buying media coverage

October 9, 2016 - 12:46

Camden Johnson

twitter.com/billpruitt/status/784872190587998209

Even if Clinton wins it looks very poor for the establishment. She's not even a president yet and she's already discredited as a politician in so many ways.

October 9, 2016 - 13:31

Zachary Smith

Her presidency is historic in so many ways. She's the US's first female president, and the first president to enter office with negative approval ratings.

October 9, 2016 - 13:51

Ryder Peterson

So do you guys think Trump is screwed after this whole debacle or is it possible for him to make a comeback.?

October 9, 2016 - 14:01

Cameron Perez

He has outlived his usefulness.

October 9, 2016 - 14:04

Brody Flores

If "I could shoot someone in the middle of the street" didn't end his campaign then why the fuck would this?

October 9, 2016 - 14:09

Joseph Morgan

Because people seem to be giving him a lot more shit about this.

October 9, 2016 - 14:29

Caleb Hall

The media is going ALL IN with this pussy scandal. They are absolutely crucifying him.

October 9, 2016 - 14:32

Adam Jackson

TAKE YOUR MEDS, REDDIT

STOP STEALING MY MEEMS MIKE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

October 9, 2016 - 14:36

Angel Jackson

Of the the top 100 threads on /r/politics, 82 of them mention trump. But there are some more in there that talk about him implicitly, so a good 90-95% of the links on the front page of /r/politics right now are about Trump.

Something tells me CTR et al are going all-in on this out of sheer desperation. More people are talking about wikileaks than something Trump said last decade.

I wonder if they'll be able to keep this up into next week when more leaks drop.

October 9, 2016 - 14:44

Cameron Johnson

True, character assassination can't stump him. The only thing that would work is to attack him on the issues, i.e.:

But such attacks would be an own-goal, because the neolib/neocon agenda is also the agenda of all Trump's opposition. It would be child's play to bring down Trump, but they can't allow anyone to use the populist arsenal which is his only vulnerability.

October 9, 2016 - 14:46

Ian Richardson

Yeah, but that's the media. Wait till the rumors about what Wikileaks just released spread outside of internet-savvy people, not to mention that they only released 1% of what they have on Hillary.
This is vapid sensationalism, don't take it too seriously. The media spectacle itself has conditioned people to have short-term memory and instantaneous short-term reactions. You have to step back and look at it long-term: Wikileaks is much more damaging because it undermines her whole candidacy.

October 9, 2016 - 14:48

Oliver Martinez

Where's that image from?

October 9, 2016 - 15:03

Isaac Phillips

Sorry, I don't recall.

Guccifer also released some more stuff, though you'd never know if if you just watch TV

October 9, 2016 - 15:24

Logan Hall

This is pretty much how Redacted would've trounced him I think.

October 9, 2016 - 15:39

Robert Cox

Second Presidential debate live stream

it's like 2 hours away so don't bernout.

cytu.be/r/M-C-M
cytu.be/r/M-C-M
cytu.be/r/M-C-M

October 9, 2016 - 15:59

Gabriel Walker

nevar5gat

October 9, 2016 - 16:04

Jose Carter

Who would have thought that FOX is going to be the most balanced mainstream media in year 2016.

October 9, 2016 - 16:09

Brayden Myers

I'll wait on the Democracy Now expanded debates thingy. Maybe Gary Johnson won't chicken out of joining Jill Stein this time so we can have some extra laughs.

October 9, 2016 - 16:43

Xavier Wright

Absolute madman.

October 9, 2016 - 16:45

Brody Thompson

what the fuck…

October 9, 2016 - 16:47

Dominic Williams

HOLY SHIT

October 9, 2016 - 16:47

William Gomez

this will either backfire horribly or backfire tremendously.

October 9, 2016 - 16:49

Brandon Bailey

...

October 9, 2016 - 16:49

Josiah Jones

Backfire? Isn't that beating the SJWs at their own game?

October 9, 2016 - 16:50

Grayson Ross

CNN is reporting that all 4 women are going to be in the debate hall too. This is going to be a glorious shitshow.

October 9, 2016 - 16:52

Lincoln Sanders

Trump's defense to the pussy-grab comments was "Bill Clinton has said worse!"

He is definitely going to try some tone-deaf defense at the debate.

October 9, 2016 - 16:53

Tyler Cook

Damn Rachel, never expected you to be a rape apologist aren't you a feminist? :^)

October 9, 2016 - 16:54

Landon Myers

daaaaamn

October 9, 2016 - 17:05

David Gutierrez

Good really, apologies are just seen as admissions of guilt which are just seen as the go ahead for ever greater self-righteousness and cruelty by your atackers. It has not always been this way but discourse had pretty rapidly evolved into this over the last few years. You can blame millenials for this imo.

I want him to just say the dems and republicans can both go to hell

October 9, 2016 - 17:06

Carson Perez

Note: this does not apply to Barack Obama where you can use the passive voice to offer mea culpas and get perfect support

October 9, 2016 - 17:08

Liam Mitchell

America, my favorite reality show of all time. Don't bomb my country.

October 9, 2016 - 17:09

Kevin Garcia

Just imagine the history books a few decades from now on.

This whole development, every facet of it, every turn is just utterly mind-boggling.

Who would have though of that 1 year ago and the whole world is watching.

October 9, 2016 - 17:09

Dominic Bennett

Lmao I remember only a few years ago the bleeding edge of social justice was saying Monica was a rape victim. I wonder where those brave voices are now?

October 9, 2016 - 17:11

Gavin Wilson

Great, just great. Our political process about one or two steps from Jerry Springer, now I know the motive behind the "Draft Oprah" meme.

October 9, 2016 - 17:12

Adrian Sullivan

The Republican party is imploding before our eyes. Holy shit. This is historic.

October 9, 2016 - 17:12

Anthony Walker

I know we've been saying this for decades, but I think this is an unmistakable sign of political collapse.

The American Left should start pushing for a candidate in 1924 and right from the get go proclaim that you guys will split the Dem vote. I don't think 8 years of Hillary Clinton will restore anyone's faith on the status quo.

October 9, 2016 - 17:13

Aaron Bell

bit late for that

October 9, 2016 - 17:14

Dominic Ramirez

lol, this shows where my mind is

2024*

October 9, 2016 - 17:14

John Bell

How will they make a comeback in 2020? I'm assuming they will push new regulations stopping "outsiders" from being part of the debate?

October 9, 2016 - 17:16

Jace Butler

I appreciate that everything is admitting that "both parties are the same" is the plain truth and not a childish cynicism.

"Yeah, it's true. Hillary Clinton is the republican candidate" - democrat talking head

October 9, 2016 - 17:16

Lucas Rodriguez

What's happening?

October 9, 2016 - 17:17

Dominic Howard

They Rebulicab party is trying to coup Trump and replace him with Pence

October 9, 2016 - 17:18

Samuel Hernandez

A party apparatus that withdraws its support of a candidate that is still supported by a majority of the party base?

October 9, 2016 - 17:18

Lincoln Thomas

Trump is Corbyn, lel.

October 9, 2016 - 17:19

Lucas Torres

I started by day by hearing a neo-liberal pundit on nbc reverently referring to Gilliani as "America's Mayor", how about you?

October 9, 2016 - 17:20

Matthew Perry

...

October 9, 2016 - 17:24

Isaiah Miller

Which is hilarious because nobody gives a shit about Pence. Didn't Trump pick Pence anyway? If they replaced Trump with Pence wouldn't that still be a tacit endorsement? They can't replace him with the other Republicans from the primaries either, because they're tainted from losing the primaries.

October 9, 2016 - 17:25

Eli Evans

Pence outperforms Trump in every poll. If Pence were running against Clinton, he'd have a modest lead.

October 9, 2016 - 17:27

Nathaniel Martin

Hey fuck you. There's nothing inherently different about my or any generation. It's cultural. Younger people are just more susceptible to cultural shifts while older people are more susceptible to clinging to tradition and doing damage that way. The reason our culture has become so obsessed with accusations and reputation is because the internet has made this shit move at a lighting fast pace. People who have an aptitude for navigationg social networks (technological or not) are more adept at functioning in this world and so they get to assert more control over it. The population that trends toward social thinking trends away from systemic and abstract thinking, including concepts of ethics and principles. This is why the dialogue has changed so much.

tl;dr once again you can trace social trends to material conditions rather some essentialist bullshit about generations

October 9, 2016 - 17:33

William Phillips

Pence replacing Clinton would be the worst outcome. Then we get a relatively uncontroversial establishment figure. Both Trump and Clinton are self-destructive for the political system in comparison.

October 9, 2016 - 17:33

Daniel James

stream link reeee

October 9, 2016 - 17:39

Henry Nguyen

cytu.be/r/M-C-M
cytu.be/r/M-C-M
cytu.be/r/M-C-M

October 9, 2016 - 17:40

Gavin White

This, although from what little I know of Pence he's a super social conservative evangelical type. I'm not that familiar with him though because the veep is irrelevant.

October 9, 2016 - 17:46

Landon James

Face it, this sort of witch hunting lynch mob nonsense only really went nuclear around the time millennials came of age. Today's social networks aren't much different from anything that came before, but the users who raised them to such prominence are.

October 9, 2016 - 17:54

Nathaniel Reyes

Two words: Joe McCarthy

October 9, 2016 - 17:56

Xavier Morales

Dick Cheney?

October 9, 2016 - 17:56

Adrian Watson

IMO it's a combination of political correctness (itself the product of american puritanism mixing with "cultural studies") and american patriotism, displaced to liberal issues.

October 9, 2016 - 17:58

Josiah Turner

You have it completely backward.

October 9, 2016 - 18:00

Nolan Foster

twitter.com/ByYourLogic/status/785281950756048896

Chapo Trap House live stream

October 9, 2016 - 18:01

Austin Collins

The only thing different about millennials is that we grew up in a time where online communication was common and so we adapted to it better than older generations. Take any other people and put them in our situation and you get the same results.

October 9, 2016 - 18:01

Bentley Collins

nigga you do realize that millennials were born between like 1980 and 2000, right? People who grew up on 4chan, ytmnd, SA, and newgrounds are solidly in the millennial bracket. If anything, you are pissed at the younger half (maybe even youngest third) of millennials and the generation after them.

October 9, 2016 - 18:05

Charles Martin

...

October 9, 2016 - 18:06

Wyatt Gray

Won't somebody please think of the children!

October 9, 2016 - 18:06

Tyler Thompson

...

October 9, 2016 - 18:06

Grayson Flores

People who want to sweep serious topics under the carpet to protect much children should be shot.

October 9, 2016 - 18:07

Nicholas Robinson

...

October 9, 2016 - 18:08

Xavier Mitchell

...

October 9, 2016 - 18:08

Liam Wood

*muh children
It's like adult language. It's called adult language for a reason. If you want to keep kids away from it, keep kids away from it instead of telling adults they can't be adults because children might see (and what, be inspired to be adults themselves?)

October 9, 2016 - 18:09

Noah Young

Is it just me or Trump looks tired as fuck?

October 9, 2016 - 18:09

Samuel Young

We can't believe it either, Don.

October 9, 2016 - 18:09

Cooper Rivera

Apparently Melania is pissed for some reason.

October 9, 2016 - 18:10

Blake Lewis

Maybe he wants to look sad after talking to rapin' Bill's victims.

October 9, 2016 - 18:10

Aiden Baker

...

October 9, 2016 - 18:10

Michael Harris

Low energy

October 9, 2016 - 18:10

Parker Allen

She's east-european, probably pretty sexually conservative. Hearing her man talk about his previous conquests is probably upsetting in itself. Being a lech makes it worse.

October 9, 2016 - 18:11

Parker Green

holy fuck isis isn't shit. They're literally losing on every front of the war

October 9, 2016 - 18:12

Christopher Brown

ISISISISISIISISIISIISISIISIS

October 9, 2016 - 18:12

Camden Sullivan

how will Holla Forums ever recover?

October 9, 2016 - 18:12

Luis Cooper

They're having kind of a mental breakdown right now.

October 9, 2016 - 18:13

Colton Morgan

yeah but they're cutting off heads
just like mexican drug cartels

October 9, 2016 - 18:13

Jordan Sanders

He's trying to appear serious about it. But he looks like a schoolboy in the principle's office.

October 9, 2016 - 18:14

Christian Powell

nice duckface Donald

October 9, 2016 - 18:14

Owen Jackson

10/10 way of putting it. Exactly what I was thinking but couldn't find the words.

October 9, 2016 - 18:16

Justin Cook

Wow, Trump legitimately sounds weak right now.

October 9, 2016 - 18:16

Isaac Anderson

IT'S JUST WERDS GUISE

October 9, 2016 - 18:16

Henry Moore

Holy shit this is so dystopian to watch. Literally Giant Douche vs Turd Sandwich

Glad I'm not American.

Trump looks like he has given up tho

October 9, 2016 - 18:17

Christopher Sullivan

Trump's sniffing more than Zizek.

October 9, 2016 - 18:16

Hunter Hughes

WE GREAT CUZ WE GOOD!

October 9, 2016 - 18:16

Cameron Scott

The fuck? They're still talking about that stupid tape? Everyone already knows Trump is a sexist scumbag. Why is it so shocking?

October 9, 2016 - 18:17

James Wilson

Not as soundly, but indeed more frequently.

HOLY SHIT. THE CLINTON CARD

October 9, 2016 - 18:18

Caleb Ward

SPECTACLE

October 9, 2016 - 18:18

Gavin Reed

SNIFFFFFFFFF

October 9, 2016 - 18:19

Ethan Flores

Arguing about which one gives less of a fuck of about women

October 9, 2016 - 18:19

Wyatt Reed

They're really trying to corner Trump on being a straight dude telling a fish story about sex.

October 9, 2016 - 18:19

Eli Russell

If I was as rich and expoitative I'd do the same. I mean those women are just very pretty slaves.

October 9, 2016 - 18:19

Elijah Reyes

It's all just spectacle. This is literally post-poltics

October 9, 2016 - 18:20

Noah Brown

Cocaine is a helluva drug.

October 9, 2016 - 18:20

Josiah Green

reminder that Trump already has multiple rape allegations against him (including one from his Ex-Wife) but oh no he said pussy and that's a step too far.

October 9, 2016 - 18:20

Christopher Anderson

The gloves are off.

October 9, 2016 - 18:20

Oliver Long

Defend yourself, Shillbot.

October 9, 2016 - 18:20

Nathan Diaz

TRUMP HAS NO ENERGY

Jesus christ he can't stay on a single topic can he?

October 9, 2016 - 18:21

Angel Kelly

HAHA FELLOW AMERICANS ISN'T THIS AWESOME 20 MINUTES ABOUT LITERALLY FUCKING NOTHING
HAHA IT'S JUST LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE LITERALLY NOTHING EXCEPT THEATER TO DISTRACT FROM EVER TALKING ABOUT ANY POLICY AT ALL LMAO

October 9, 2016 - 18:21

Xavier Perry

Bill vs Donald who raped more?

6 November, YOU DECIDE

October 9, 2016 - 18:21

Sebastian Nguyen

Clinton's mouth is a dry as Rubio's vagina.

October 9, 2016 - 18:21

Hudson Cox

ISIS ISIS ISIS ISIS ISIS ISIS ISIS ISIS

WOMEN WOMEN WOMEN WOMEN WOMEN WOMEN WOMEN WOMEN

October 9, 2016 - 18:21

Wyatt Adams

Also being rich makes women wet. The media keeps saying he grabbed pussies without consent but it's not like he'd have a hard time finding women who'd be into that. He's a celebrity, they'd be approaching him with sexual interest.

October 9, 2016 - 18:21

Adam Jackson

They were asking for it.

October 9, 2016 - 18:22

Nicholas Morris

he should have legit got someone to get some amphetamine for him or something

October 9, 2016 - 18:22

Kayden Scott

Literally just a dramafest

October 9, 2016 - 18:22

Josiah Butler

The answer is Hillary raped more women than both combined.

October 9, 2016 - 18:22

Benjamin Robinson

THEY HAVE TO KILL THE MONSTER THEY CREATED!!

October 9, 2016 - 18:23

Brayden Hernandez

Hot

October 9, 2016 - 18:23

Andrew Lewis

But I must admit this drama is delicious. Really enjoying the spectacle.

October 9, 2016 - 18:23

Mason Wood

This is just very uncomfortable to watch.

October 9, 2016 - 18:24

Jack Morgan

Lol, he's openly threatening her with jail time.

This is gold.

October 9, 2016 - 18:24

Jordan Hill

"I'm going to prosecute my political enemies after I win"

Lmao, he's a literal, actual fascist.

October 9, 2016 - 18:24

Jackson Jones

check out my website you guys

October 9, 2016 - 18:24

Juan Ross

Yeah, you know what you're right. Women definitely aren't attracted to rich men or have a libido to speak of. And women especially don't like men to be sexually dominant.

October 9, 2016 - 18:24

Luke Fisher

trump looks like he's about to spit a sick diss-rap

October 9, 2016 - 18:25

Jason Thompson

Jesus Christ Hillary gives me chills.

Is she even human at this point? She looks like she's a lobotomized cyborg on acid

October 9, 2016 - 18:25

Cameron Perez

lol

October 9, 2016 - 18:25

Adrian Ortiz

"because you'd go to prison"
wew

October 9, 2016 - 18:25

Cameron Jackson

Clinton does belong in jail though.

October 9, 2016 - 18:25

Xavier Taylor

HOLY SHIT

October 9, 2016 - 18:26

Christopher Baker

Man, what a time to be alive.

October 9, 2016 - 18:26

Jason Fisher

Yeah this isn't fun anymore

October 9, 2016 - 18:26

Juan Green

WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEW!!

October 9, 2016 - 18:27

Jose Scott

Clinton: "I take classified information seriously"
Yeah, that's why she had classified headers removed from emails when she put them on her server.

October 9, 2016 - 18:27

Ayden Wright

If America subscribed to the Den Haag Tribunal, the whole Obama and Bush administration would.

October 9, 2016 - 18:27

Dominic Carter

I think you misunderstand me because we agree.

October 9, 2016 - 18:27

Isaac Reyes

It's amazing what these two candidates have done this campaign. Huge mess.

October 9, 2016 - 18:27

Samuel Moore

It's a maaaadhhooouuussse

October 9, 2016 - 18:28

Chase Adams

There both are just so bad. This is so depressing. This is reality. Oh my god.

October 9, 2016 - 18:28

Eli Edwards

Boy it sure is interesting to listen to these two well respected political figures have a nuanced conversation about economic development and other substantive issues relevant to the interests of me, the common man.

October 9, 2016 - 18:28

Jason Price

this is fucking ridiculous

October 9, 2016 - 18:29

Colton Walker

see and

She's a literal war criminal besides the email thing.

October 9, 2016 - 18:29

Michael Jackson

He's sniffing like he snorted coke before the debate but he acts like he's on…I dunno. Something depressant.

October 9, 2016 - 18:29

Christian Lopez

SAVAGE

October 9, 2016 - 18:30

Gavin Butler

IT'S GETTING HOTTER

October 9, 2016 - 18:30

Ethan Smith

This is what happens when evil schemes fail.

We're literally seeing what would happen if Dick Dastardly ran for President.

October 9, 2016 - 18:31

Camden Edwards

she's earnestly addressing the corner of the room… is this supposed to be interpreted as assertiveness or something?

October 9, 2016 - 18:32

Elijah Peterson

Feels good man.

October 9, 2016 - 18:32

Joshua Cook

*sniff*

October 9, 2016 - 18:32

Jeremiah Lopez

Implying the law has anything to do with putting political opponents in jail

October 9, 2016 - 18:33

Jace Adams

10 bucks that Trump ends up trying to argue with a voter before this is done

October 9, 2016 - 18:33

Daniel Johnson

…I don't agree "she was asking for it" is a defense for rape or sexual assault, but on the other hand I had never heard someone use it as a defense before. To be clear, what I'm saying is that there are situations where sexual escalation is what both people want, and escalating quickly (grabbing the other by the genitals) is an act of dominance, which most women would find attractive (even if that specific behavior is pretty crass - women tend to prefer men to be a bit more roundabout than going straight for the genitals). Whether an act is rape or sexual assault is a matter of whether somebody was receptive to it. Most cases of rape or sexual assault would just be normal sexual activity to different people in different circumstances. Really it's about what people want.

These subtleties are beyond the soundbite media, though.

October 9, 2016 - 18:34

Ryder Ortiz

I'd trust dick dastardly more than either of these retards.

October 9, 2016 - 18:34

Zachary Morgan

Ya'll watchin the expanded debate right?

democracynow.org/live/coming_up_expanding_the_october_9th

October 9, 2016 - 18:35

Isaiah Baker

Sure Trump.

October 9, 2016 - 18:35

Isaac Gonzalez

At least this board agrees with Holla Forums that Hillary is the worst candidate, right?

October 9, 2016 - 18:35

Bentley Campbell

...

October 9, 2016 - 18:35

Jayden Cox

Even if they had the will it's not like the US would respect any ICJ ruling anyway.

October 9, 2016 - 18:36

Dylan Myers

This healthcare thing is so ridiculous to watch as an European.

How the fuck is a country that's been able to nuke every fucking corner in the world unable to organize a standard public healthcare the way it exists since the fucking 1880s?

October 9, 2016 - 18:36

Sebastian Ward

Question for Leftypol: Would you consider Hillary a Marxist? She sounds very similar to how Marxian economists talk and justify their ideas.

October 9, 2016 - 18:36

James Mitchell

h

October 9, 2016 - 18:36

Adrian Thompson

They're both bad, but in different ways.

October 9, 2016 - 18:36

Sebastian Long

that's communims (evil)

October 9, 2016 - 18:37

Luke Miller

...

October 9, 2016 - 18:37

Ian Lopez

So you're saying all I have to do is become someone's political opponent, and then they can't put me in jail for committing crimes?

October 9, 2016 - 18:37

Samuel Murphy

topkek

October 9, 2016 - 18:37

Dylan Miller

?????

October 9, 2016 - 18:38

Carter Mitchell

Actually I tuned in 10 minutes ago and I haven't heard a single thing from Stein yet. Are these actually expanded?

October 9, 2016 - 18:38

Jason Williams

what did he mean by this

October 9, 2016 - 18:38

Aiden Brooks

IdPol IdPol IdPol IdPol IdPol

October 9, 2016 - 18:39

Matthew Morris

...

October 9, 2016 - 18:39

Hunter Smith

If only president Obama would say radical islamic terrorism while he carpet bombed the middle east into oblivion, then the terrorists would surrender.

October 9, 2016 - 18:39

Gabriel Miller

KHAAAAAAAN

KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN

October 9, 2016 - 18:40

Thomas Phillips

nigger calling the silver surfer black

October 9, 2016 - 18:40

Oliver Powell

It's amazing how quickly he's showing that he has literally nothing behind him but some populist one-liners.

October 9, 2016 - 18:41

Ryder Butler

Read a book

October 9, 2016 - 18:41

Nicholas Cook

...

October 9, 2016 - 18:41

Charles Gutierrez

you're a fucking nazbol

October 9, 2016 - 18:41

Andrew Wilson

...

October 9, 2016 - 18:41

Jose Ortiz

Hillary is a competent status quo politician. which, in and of itself, is an indictment. Trump is a a scumbag opportunist and we have no idea how he'd govern. The only thing we can be sure of is that he's going to cut taxes on the wealthy which is just going to widen the wealth gap. They're both shit but if I had to choose I'd rather not play russian roullete.

October 9, 2016 - 18:42

Levi Kelly

10/10

October 9, 2016 - 18:42

Lincoln Reyes

...

October 9, 2016 - 18:43

Noah Edwards

Besides za waru he just have one-liners. And that's what so amazing about him, he's just poorly constructed rhetoric and bravado but still he's the front-runner. That's amazing.

October 9, 2016 - 18:43

Oliver Hall

Trump backing down from the ban on muslims. interesting.

October 9, 2016 - 18:43

Kayden Martin

A lot of people here do, yes. Americans in general are fed up with the establishment.

October 9, 2016 - 18:44

Dylan Harris

A liberal is always less horrible than a fascist, only because liberals generally don't try to kill unless until civil war breaks out.

I would not put it past Trump to crack down of leftist organization.

lol

October 9, 2016 - 18:44

Samuel Foster

He literally never had a blanket ban

October 9, 2016 - 18:45

Robert Hernandez

wat.

October 9, 2016 - 18:45

Brandon Mitchell

This election will make the ruling class decide that even the illusion of democracy has to be done away with for our own good.

October 9, 2016 - 18:45

Colton Barnes

...

October 9, 2016 - 18:45

Michael Campbell

USA DID NOTHING WRONG IN SYRIA GUYS

October 9, 2016 - 18:45

Jeremiah Ortiz

American politics in general produces amazement.

October 9, 2016 - 18:45

Sebastian Nguyen

Is that really catching on it was just a dumb joke I thought of

October 9, 2016 - 18:45

Jonathan James

Lol Hillary mentions the staged picture of the dirt covered Syrian boy.

She's as disgusting as Trump.

October 9, 2016 - 18:46

Julian Barnes

That's convenient.

October 9, 2016 - 18:46

William Garcia

tfw It was russians pretending to be Americans who killed all those civilians in the middle east

October 9, 2016 - 18:46

Andrew Turner

...

October 9, 2016 - 18:46

Jace Martin

The bottom ~50% of the population is simply that fucking stupid. They actually do just want a Fuhrer.

October 9, 2016 - 18:47

Austin Martinez

I want to cut this ugly birches stomach open

October 9, 2016 - 18:47

Parker Murphy

Hillary does not support the status quo. She is a warmonger.

October 9, 2016 - 18:47

Jayden Evans

yeah russia definitely isn't bombing hospitals either

October 9, 2016 - 18:47

Dominic Sanders

But the status quo IS war, you dumb shit

October 9, 2016 - 18:47

Charles Stewart

Does not compute.

October 9, 2016 - 18:47

Joseph Butler

Thank you for correcting the record.

October 9, 2016 - 18:48

Jaxon Wilson

Perhaps that's just human nature.

October 9, 2016 - 18:48

Caleb Ortiz

in before Clinton calls them a Russian spy organization

October 9, 2016 - 18:48

James Peterson

Our predecessors have been killed by Hitler, fuck off.

October 9, 2016 - 18:48

Logan Rogers

Too bad it wasn't about her willingness to assassinate whistleblowers.

October 9, 2016 - 18:49

Joseph Cox

no, your predecessors were Nazi collaborators who betrayed their countrymen

October 9, 2016 - 18:49

Ethan Bailey

Nevermind the fact that the US directly and indirectly supplied weapons to "moderate Islamic rebels" who were ethnically cleansing minorities.

October 9, 2016 - 18:49

Jaxson Diaz

I hate that its either gonna Shillary or Fuhrer Trump. 2016 is so fucking stupid.

October 9, 2016 - 18:50

Jason Foster

...

October 9, 2016 - 18:50

Luke James

That's our biggest export tho…

October 9, 2016 - 18:50

Kevin Nelson

No. She is decidedly more hawkish than Obama.

October 9, 2016 - 18:50

Justin Gomez

An American politician accusing other countries of trying to influence elections in other countries is peak Irony.

October 9, 2016 - 18:50

Aiden Martin

I've heard her "private-private policy" is actually posadism.

October 9, 2016 - 18:51

Ryder Jones

ayy lmao

October 9, 2016 - 18:51

Jason Campbell

Holy shit, Hillary is being straight up dishonest and Trump still sounds like an idiot when trying to refute her

October 9, 2016 - 18:52

Levi Bell

TOP FUCKING KEK

A country that upholds """""NGOs""""" to overthrow foreign governments and puts their nose into every election gets a taste of their own medicine

October 9, 2016 - 18:52

Zachary Wilson

ZERO POINT ENERGY

October 9, 2016 - 18:52

Justin Ortiz

Nationalism is idpol to a T.

I always put it this way - Trump probably doesn't give much of a fuck about being president and would just go along with his handlers. But we don't know what he'd do since he's never held elected office before. Hillary has. And if you compare the worst things either has done, she comes out far far worse. Even raping several women (which as far as I know is just an accusation for Trump) doesn't come close to the wake of wreckage and strife she's left all over the world with her foreign policy. She's happy to destroy foreign countries if it's politically expedient.

October 9, 2016 - 18:53

Ryan Gomez

Extra Terrestrial Intelligence

October 9, 2016 - 18:53

Landon Garcia

There go 50 years of CIA black book operations into the memory hole…

October 9, 2016 - 18:53

Jackson Fisher

Russia isn't manipulating shit. Hillary Clinton/the DNC is the one that committed election fraud during the Democratic Primary.

October 9, 2016 - 18:54

Oliver Reyes

Who is decidedly more hawkish than Bush was, although much less open about it. It's almost like the figurehead doesn't matter and just do what the bosses tell them.

October 9, 2016 - 18:54

Ethan Perry

What manipulating did they even do?

Wait a minute…
Is Hillary, dare I say…
A RUSSIAN PLANT?

October 9, 2016 - 18:55

Hunter Nelson

Trump is doing good this debate considering "grab her by the pussy".

also bigly

October 9, 2016 - 18:55

Connor Morales

Russia probably DID do shit in this election, but the US does the same shit all the time

Look at fucking Haiti in the 90s

October 9, 2016 - 18:56

Ethan Williams

To be fair Trump really hasn't the opportunity. He might be completely willing to do the same kind of shit. I'm sure his handlers are perfectly fine with it.

October 9, 2016 - 18:56

Jordan Hernandez

Just check friggin Ukraine m8

October 9, 2016 - 18:57

Easton Sanchez

did the Donald just spoon a chair

October 9, 2016 - 18:58

Blake Green

I mean he might be but all evidence suggests he doesn't give a fuck (he offered to let Kasich run his office in exchange for being his VP). On the other hand, we know Hillary would keep doing what she's doing because she keeps getting paid to do it.

October 9, 2016 - 18:59

Brayden Hernandez

First 10 min excluded so far Trump rips her pretty much apart imo

October 9, 2016 - 19:00

Nolan Long

Trump is actually pulling a smart move shitting on her foreign policy

October 9, 2016 - 19:01

Jonathan Sanchez

9/11

October 9, 2016 - 19:02

Christopher Perez

Is it true shillary voted against loopholes?

October 9, 2016 - 19:02

Cooper Walker

What's Aleppo?

October 9, 2016 - 19:03

Logan Ramirez

It's her weakest point to normies. Most people don't understand the ramificiations of the emails unfortunately.

October 9, 2016 - 19:03

Carter Cox

The fourth Marx brother.

October 9, 2016 - 19:04

Thomas Diaz

...

October 9, 2016 - 19:04

Camden Cooper

Probably.

October 9, 2016 - 19:04

Aaron Parker

I think the hosts literally gave me autism

October 9, 2016 - 19:05

Easton Phillips

Finally some debate about their wonderful imperialism… Hypocritical fucks.

October 9, 2016 - 19:05

Jackson Gomez

smells like 2012

October 9, 2016 - 19:05

Ayden Rivera

...

October 9, 2016 - 19:05

Benjamin Cook

...

October 9, 2016 - 19:06

Jackson Brown

Tbh even then her foreign policy is more important than a personal scandal

October 9, 2016 - 19:06

Michael Long

fascist vs neo - con Blairite scum

I feel ill

October 9, 2016 - 19:06

Jack Phillips

...

October 9, 2016 - 19:06

Adrian Moore

DEATH TO AMERICA
DEATH TO AMERICA
DEATH TO AMERICA

October 9, 2016 - 19:07

Aaron Baker

u fukin wot m8

October 9, 2016 - 19:07

Camden Perez

I still can't believe the hosts went on all about that fucking forged press photo and then pulled a fucking Holocaust comparison.

October 9, 2016 - 19:07

Xavier Thompson

...

October 9, 2016 - 19:08

Nicholas Taylor

Jesus

October 9, 2016 - 19:08

Sebastian Harris

It is in comparison to her actual policy position

October 9, 2016 - 19:08

Jacob Bell

...

October 9, 2016 - 19:08

Nathan Garcia

STOP
THIS
MEME

October 9, 2016 - 19:09

Brody Garcia

Yeah but plenty of Amerians are OK with imperialism. National security bothers them more. I agree with you but we're talking about the American voter here.

October 9, 2016 - 19:09

Levi Barnes

It feels dirty when I agree with Trump.

October 9, 2016 - 19:09

Angel Hill

youtube.com/watch?v=XHoVuFlrcjA
youtube.com/watch?v=XHoVuFlrcjA
youtube.com/watch?v=XHoVuFlrcjA

October 9, 2016 - 19:09

Nolan Gray

I like how Hillary puts on her inhuman joker grin when the Islamist rebels in Syrian are mentioned

October 9, 2016 - 19:10

Brody Ramirez

No matter how much of a scumbag someone is you probably agree with them about something.

October 9, 2016 - 19:10

David Thomas

Source on that pic?

October 9, 2016 - 19:11

Gabriel Mitchell

wow. the moderator is debating trump… what the fuck….

October 9, 2016 - 19:11

Brody Hall

I'm so sure that Isis wouldn't be able to predict being attacked, unless the US announces it to the media.

October 9, 2016 - 19:11

Eli Allen

Isn't it just East Aleppo that is occupied by the rebels? I thought the rest of Aleppo was relatively stable under SAA control.

October 9, 2016 - 19:11

Lincoln Hall

O my god, Trump is so fucking stupid sometimes.

October 9, 2016 - 19:12

Jaxson Fisher

CLINTON NEWS NETWORK

October 9, 2016 - 19:12

Ethan Garcia

SOMETIMES.

October 9, 2016 - 19:13

Leo Baker

ROJAVA MENTIONED
ROJAVA MENTIONED
ROJAVA MENTIONED

October 9, 2016 - 19:13

Angel Green

It's funny how Clinton didn't just say "yeah, we got them to withdraw without firing a shot or endangering our troops! they're so scared of us they just left!" This is why democrats look so fucking weak.

October 9, 2016 - 19:13

Nolan Martinez

BIJI

October 9, 2016 - 19:13

Lucas Cooper

meant for

October 9, 2016 - 19:13

Aaron Moore

What I find interesting about the Republicans, is that they let their racism and sexism, take them from what would normally be easily winnable positions, to catastrophic defeat.

The black community in general is very conservative, they hate gays, they're incredibly sexist, materialistic, religious etc. so you would think, black people in general would vote Republican, but no, because Republicans would rather pander to the white trash bible belt vote, they lose a huge portion of the population, that they could easily ride into Government majorities and Presidential positions every time.

If there is anything I have learned with arguing with right-Liberals, is they conflate National Security with Imperialism. Invading Iraq, Syria etc are issues of "National Security" not Imperialism.

Go look at the UK for perfect example of this. How Corbyn is absolutely shit on for taking actual quite rational stances like not antagonizing Russia, not rushing into Syria, Scrapping Trident because saber rattling with Russia or Running straight into Syria or having Nuclear Subs sit off the coast of Russia has something something National Security.

It's absurd.

What "National security" and "Foreign relations" really stands for, from Right-Liberals is pro-Imperialism and pro-Jingoism.

October 9, 2016 - 19:13

Gavin Russell

It's Grimes you filthy Nazbol.

October 9, 2016 - 19:14

Austin Clark

It's absurd. The moderators are so obviously in Clinton's pocket.

October 9, 2016 - 19:14

Owen Wilson

Igor has got to keep the creature in line.

October 9, 2016 - 19:14

Jason Harris

BIJI APO

BIJI KURDISTAN

October 9, 2016 - 19:14

Nolan Lopez

He's stupid almost 100% of the time, but sometimes he reach high levels of stupidity.

October 9, 2016 - 19:14

Xavier Smith

As the guy you're replying to, this is accurate and what I was referring to.

October 9, 2016 - 19:15

Evan Bell

HRC CONFIRMED FRIEND OF THE WORKER

October 9, 2016 - 19:15

Owen Wood

Jimmy's black bro asks spooky question

October 9, 2016 - 19:15

Kevin Adams

BIJI COMRADE HILLARY /s

October 9, 2016 - 19:15

Jackson Gray

'will bring economics to the people'

get a speaking coach, don.

October 9, 2016 - 19:15

Michael Walker

IT'S LATINX, PENDEJO!!

October 9, 2016 - 19:16

Jackson Miller

"a very against police judge"

October 9, 2016 - 19:16

Christopher Robinson

real talk

How do they feel about Hillary?

October 9, 2016 - 19:16

Jason Cook

Without a notion of solidarity, be it worker or human, national security and imperialism become the same thing. If you don't care about others, you would support invading countries and torturing thousands of children if it saves the life of just one American.

October 9, 2016 - 19:16

Bentley Hughes

Trump at a debate reminds me of a college frat kid being "Dude, I don't have to study before the final exam. I'm totally going to ace it" while staying up all night partying.

October 9, 2016 - 19:17

Dylan Clark

That's probably what happened tbh.

October 9, 2016 - 19:19

Chase Cooper

And he actually passes. The absolute madman.

October 9, 2016 - 19:19

Evan Allen

Hillary's answers are way too practiced and specific. She must have known what they were going to be.

October 9, 2016 - 19:20

James Walker

REEEEEEE

October 9, 2016 - 19:20

Charles Perez

fuck "specific to the questions"

October 9, 2016 - 19:20

John Gray

...

October 9, 2016 - 19:20

Alexander Ross

...

October 9, 2016 - 19:21

Jackson Robinson

Don't post 2d girls, we need to concentrate

October 9, 2016 - 19:22

Levi Rivera

Thanks, Anderson. We can really count on you to fact check the important details.

October 9, 2016 - 19:22

Carson Hughes

Trump is terrible at rhetoric. Hillary has been doing this for years.

October 9, 2016 - 19:22

Jackson Taylor

kys nazi bastard

October 9, 2016 - 19:22

Grayson Powell

That's him to a T

October 9, 2016 - 19:23

Henry Price

tbh it's worse than just ignoring him or throwing him under the bus

October 9, 2016 - 19:23

Zachary Powell

How self-proclaimed socialists have been useful idiots since 1991 in a nutshell

October 9, 2016 - 19:23

Xavier Gray

Really disappointed tbh. He should have his team study Podesta emails.

October 9, 2016 - 19:23

Brayden Williams

I have many many twitter followers, many smart people say I tweet the best

October 9, 2016 - 19:23

Owen Brooks

look, look, all the neocon war criminals agree with me!
Does Clinton really think this is a good strategy?

October 9, 2016 - 19:24

Brandon Sullivan

We socialists must stick together in the capitalist world

October 9, 2016 - 19:24

Leo Thomas

...

October 9, 2016 - 19:24

Jeremiah Watson

Didn't they come out just today tho?

October 9, 2016 - 19:24

Isaiah Sanchez

All the liberals I know think it's great. They really don't have any convictions so it's not surprising.

October 9, 2016 - 19:25

Carter Myers

Wow really highlights the difference between the candidates.

October 9, 2016 - 19:25

Angel Carter

is this the ZPM they're talking about?

October 9, 2016 - 19:26

Jordan Mitchell

No, two days ago. It was most likely intended to have an effect on this debate.

October 9, 2016 - 19:27

Dominic Kelly

The truth is out there.

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/1151

October 9, 2016 - 19:28

Kevin Flores

fly on hillary's shirt

October 9, 2016 - 19:29

Cooper Garcia

Donald Trump is for the common man, that's why he's standing up for the poor marginalized Coal companies.

October 9, 2016 - 19:30

Charles Stewart

This shit reads like Time Cube.

October 9, 2016 - 19:30

Evan Lewis

WTF AM I READING

October 9, 2016 - 19:30

Jonathan Rodriguez

...

October 9, 2016 - 19:30

Adrian Parker

You knew it was going to happen. He's literally the only good thing the Democrats have left, so of course she's going to hide behind Grandpa B████.

Hillary might have stolen the nomination, but B████ is stealing the party.

It is the demon Beelzebub. He is reminding Hillary of the debt she must pay.

October 9, 2016 - 19:32

Joshua Kelly

I don't buy that. She gives a flawless answer to audience questions, but then visibly has to stop and think when she has to reply to something Trump says.

October 9, 2016 - 19:32

Ayden Ross

I don't know but I really want a nuclear power anti-gravitation perpetuum-mobile device.

October 9, 2016 - 19:33

Nolan Walker

Check the website at the bottom, it's even better.

toth-relativity.com/

October 9, 2016 - 19:33

Jason Smith

I hope so. When the lolberts replace the republicans, he'll have the opportunity to make the democrats openly anti-capitalist.

October 9, 2016 - 19:34

Ryan Allen

...

October 9, 2016 - 19:34

Ryder Young

I laughed when MSM said his comments were sexual assault.

I think he's guilty of rape now.

October 9, 2016 - 19:34

Nathan Sanchez

burger politics

October 9, 2016 - 19:34

Luke Peterson

Hillary isn't a natural debater. besides how do you even reply to some of the shit Trump says?

October 9, 2016 - 19:34

Jason Stewart

Nigga there's people who think stare-rape is a real thing (and actually rape) and they're experts in navigating social systems. They're slowly taking over the media, including the MSM by virtue of the MSM wanting not to die as the internet makes it obsolete.

October 9, 2016 - 19:36

Aaron Walker

I know. The joke was that I was disdainfully dismissive of them to begin with, but Trump just raped her on live TV, so I guess he's guilty now.

October 9, 2016 - 19:39

Ethan Sullivan

So who won?

October 9, 2016 - 19:40

Isaiah Bennett

There is no back and forth, no reply, no actual conversation. It's likely all visible politicians receive this shit from some conspiracy theorists who think they will be taken seriously and produce changes to the government.

October 9, 2016 - 19:41

Aiden Davis

No one.

October 9, 2016 - 19:41

Wyatt Thomas

Jill Stein by default.

October 9, 2016 - 19:41

Jackson Allen

Not proles, that's for sure.

October 9, 2016 - 19:42

Lincoln Reyes

We all lost.

October 9, 2016 - 19:42

Cameron Scott

Trips confirm.

October 9, 2016 - 19:42

Evan Rivera

Trump won the first part of the debate at least. Trump succeded in turning the attention away from his 2005 comment onto Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton's behavior, and she had no effective response.

October 9, 2016 - 19:42

Matthew Campbell

What I find most interesting is how well read Trump seems to be. I think it is very plausible that he may be an entryist. The man has clearly done some thorough reading on leftists, and It really comes out in his rhetoric. E.g.

October 9, 2016 - 19:42

Christopher Collins

No

October 9, 2016 - 19:43

Joseph Harris

...

October 9, 2016 - 19:44

Nathan Nguyen

...

October 9, 2016 - 19:44

Matthew Ortiz

Yeah nah

October 9, 2016 - 19:44

Carson Gonzalez

Freud poster is that you?

October 9, 2016 - 19:45

Logan Foster

I'm watching this as it was a reality show, and under the logic of reality shows Trump definitely won.
Now, as a political debate it was a bunch of garbage, very little discussion about politics and mostly personal attacks. We all lost, and by "we all" I mean the entire world.

October 9, 2016 - 19:46

Nathaniel Johnson

Hillary, but only by not being a blithering idiot

October 9, 2016 - 19:47

Jeremiah Myers

Wat

October 9, 2016 - 19:48

Benjamin Myers

O, well I'd challenge you to pick even one of those statements that Trump would disagree with. It really makes you think when you think about it.

October 9, 2016 - 19:49

Charles Rogers

...

October 9, 2016 - 19:51

Lucas Morgan

...

October 9, 2016 - 19:52

Colton Mitchell

Aww, cheer up! The way I see it, the more the ordinary process of civil political discourse breaks down, the closer we get to revolution.

October 9, 2016 - 19:53

Owen Collins

It's almost like your entire thought process is a single line of thought, probably restricted by language. I pity you.

October 9, 2016 - 19:54

Christopher White

Trump likely. People are already used to Trump's stupidity, he doesn't have some high standard to reach. He was able to deliver some spectacular (not necessarily meaningful) attacks to which Hillary wasn't able to respond well if at all, which makes her not as credible as she desperately tries to appear with her smugness.

October 9, 2016 - 19:54

Cooper Robinson

Or fascism. Could go either way comrade.

October 9, 2016 - 19:56

Lincoln Adams

...

October 9, 2016 - 20:00

Elijah Harris

SPECTACLE
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October 9, 2016 - 20:05

Jace Long

He did curb stomp Hillary pretty good in the beginning, though.

If only Trump had good policies, he'd be a shoe-in.

October 9, 2016 - 20:05

Wyatt Murphy

lol

October 9, 2016 - 20:06

Joshua King

But Trump has very popular policies. Ethnic purges and mass killings in the Middle East are actually very popular among the American electorate.

October 9, 2016 - 20:08

Chase Adams

If porkys didn't have such a stranglehold on the media/propaganda, it would've happened ages ago

October 9, 2016 - 20:08

Andrew Butler

Could be talking about either candidate tbh

October 9, 2016 - 20:09

Parker Ross

Why don't you go back to Holla Forums, this isn't working.

Scientific Holla Forums's last time put Hillary as the winner. Trump is terrible at rhetoric and has no plans to sell anyway. Hillary did fine in both debates, at least she had policies to speak of. Trump is the only politician the Republicans could run that could loose to Hillary - he has the highest disapproval rating in the country, Hillary being right behind him.

October 9, 2016 - 20:09

Nathaniel Sanchez

That's Clinton.

October 9, 2016 - 20:10

Daniel Davis

Back to Holla Forums, shill

October 9, 2016 - 20:10

Easton Evans

...

October 9, 2016 - 20:11

Jose Ramirez

Outwitted

October 9, 2016 - 20:12

Justin Cooper

how did a rapey fascist porky do so well against the true progressive candidate in this debate?

is the idiot learning?

it doesn't matter the next tape will kill the fucker anyway.

October 9, 2016 - 20:12

Evan Thomas

Pretty much…

October 9, 2016 - 20:13

Connor Ramirez

Exactly. :^)

This election makes me want to change my ideology to something anti-democratic.

October 9, 2016 - 20:13

Lucas Allen

Of course it can, it always can. But no reward without risk, comrade.

Oh ye of little faith.

The difference is Clinton only wants to do those things in the Middle East. Trump wants to do them at home too.

October 9, 2016 - 20:14

Colton Wood

Something's wrong with this picture.

Can you guess what it is?

October 9, 2016 - 20:14

Michael Rodriguez

I used to semi-respect you, wobbly poster. The point here is that she's blaming muh Russia for any criticism or obstacle she faces.

WEW

October 9, 2016 - 20:15

Connor Reyes

is fake, right? I hope this is real & not real at the same time

October 9, 2016 - 20:17

Aaron Torres

I'm really amused reading all these takes about how ordinary people will be appalled by Trump wanting to jail political opponents. Actually, they will love it.

October 9, 2016 - 20:17

Ethan Long

Not a very big difference, really. Brown people should be safe, not only in the US.

October 9, 2016 - 20:18

Parker Rodriguez

Don't assume that every flag poster are the same m8.

October 9, 2016 - 20:19

Ethan Lewis

It's not about Clinton it's about the party platform. B████ put together a great platform and will have leverage during the presidency.The president is one branch of three. Trumps judges are there forever, and then you'd be dealing with a right wing congress, supreme court and president. Do you have any idea how bad that could be for the left?

October 9, 2016 - 20:19

Austin Lewis

It's still capitalist.

October 9, 2016 - 20:21

Lincoln Martin

Wasted get tbh.

October 9, 2016 - 20:22

Nolan Allen

It's rarely used, but you're right.

October 9, 2016 - 20:22

Charles Robinson

What debate did you watch? It was just the usual stock-standard buzzwords and platitudes

[citation needed]

She's not going to do shit for Sandernistas because

October 9, 2016 - 20:22

Jack Nguyen

Lmaoing at anyone that still supports Hillary after this debate.

October 9, 2016 - 20:23

Mason Lopez

In case you haven't been paying attention, Hillary has been appointing neoliberal fuckos for everything. Barack Obama wants to appoint a shithead who has no problem with the Citizens United v FEC ruling.

The worst thing for the left is to continue letting phony fucking "leftists" represent the left and resultingly not solve their problems. When people think their shit is what the left has to offer they will keep turning to the right.

October 9, 2016 - 20:23

Christopher Carter

Some days it makes me want to too comrade. Marx's exhortation to trust in the power of the workers can feel awfully hollow these days.

I didn't say it was a big difference, but considering we're not gonna win at the bourgeois polls, something is better than nothing. Unless my state has a communist party that needs ballot access next round.

October 9, 2016 - 20:24

Nathan Gonzalez

My thoughts: it's clear Trump won. His "you'd be in jail" zinger was perfect and that will end up going viral.

Hilary still has one chance left at the final debate, though. So don't write her off just yet.

October 9, 2016 - 20:25

Eli Gomez

Wow, CTR talking points.

Hillary & her cronies shit all over B████'s "great platform", because of not denouncing TPP, not going for single-payer healthcare or reforming Citizens United(why would she when it helped her win).

The judges aren't forever, they die.

Assuming we're not already dealing with this? Not in name, but in practice, we are.

The left isn't winning at all, in this election. Unless we can get Stein 5% nationally.

October 9, 2016 - 20:26

Jonathan Peterson

...

October 9, 2016 - 20:27

Aiden Adams

Vote Stein so the Greens can actually compete next time around.

October 9, 2016 - 20:27

Ian Kelly

Ken Salazar is a big one

October 9, 2016 - 20:28

Thomas Peterson

Take a look at California's bi-yearly circus aka the state ballot. This is where hardcore porky shit like Prop 13 comes from.

Direct Democracy does not work. Republicanism is the only way Democracy can function, assuming equal voting rights for everyone. If left to their own devices people will abuse the government for their own personal spooks.

October 9, 2016 - 20:28

Justin Phillips

As usual, the Twitter responses to the debate are awful to read.
Trump is now Hugo Chavez, Putin, and Noreiga all at once

October 9, 2016 - 20:31

Levi Perry

+1 to that, but ultimately the left will remain in limbo until the current banks collapse.

It's more noticeable in europe, where most leftist parties have dropped all dignity and defend the Euro in order to prevent an EU collapse. There was a guardian article on this very subject; the left traded in it's bread-and-butter issues for socjus crap as they consider "nazis" and anti-EU rightsts to be a larger threat than porky. Classic divide and conquer.

In the US it's the same shit except there is no central thing (ie the EU) to rally and circle the wagons around so the Democrats managed to shed seats faster.

October 9, 2016 - 20:32

Jayden Fisher

>assuming he said he'd jail her just because she's a political opponent & not because she broke the law
These tards..

October 9, 2016 - 20:32

Hunter Rogers

I don't have much more confidence in the Greens than I do in the Dems, tbh. It's a light reformist policy. I don't think the revolution will come at the polls, because the entire polling system is rigged to give greater weight to porky, petite-bourgeois, and lumpen interests. Our victory will come in the factories and in the streets.

Like I said, rigged to support PB interests. And then the workers are brainwashed into "taxpayers" who think they are on porky's side against the theiving taxman.

October 9, 2016 - 20:33

Jack Watson

California has a population of what, 38 million?

I don't think there's any democratic system possible that will even roughly represent the interests of a population that size?

Simplify, man

October 9, 2016 - 20:34

Alexander Hughes

Scratch the second question mark, it wasn't a question

October 9, 2016 - 20:34

Colton James

if you are a feminist/liberal you are worse than a porky

October 9, 2016 - 20:35

Parker Flores

But the banks collapsing won't end sexism or racism

October 9, 2016 - 20:36

John Scott

...

October 9, 2016 - 20:36

Jacob Brooks

Is that an actual quote? Mein Gott

October 9, 2016 - 20:36

Christopher Collins

here we go:

foreignaffairs.com/articles/europe/2016-02-02/elephant-room

spiked-online.com/newsite/article/the-turkish-coup-and-the-crisis-of-liberalism-erdogan/18572

politico.eu/article/long-goodbye-of-the-european-left-francois-hollande/

the-american-interest.com/2016/09/12/the-crisis-of-liberal-order/

October 9, 2016 - 20:36

Jace Turner

I swear, the "you would be in jail" comment is going to get so much media coverage now. And it's going to be used by Clintonites to attack anyone who wants to try and talk about her actual war crimes.

October 9, 2016 - 20:38

Daniel Collins

Paul Krugman is such a piece of shit.

October 9, 2016 - 20:39

Jaxon Mitchell

Yes. The funny thing is, it's actually true. But a bunch smug upper-class liberals chiding white men as racists will also not fix racism or sexism, whereas breaking up the big banks will at least accomplish breaking up the bigbanks.

October 9, 2016 - 20:39

Samuel Bailey

If the state ballot didn't exist things would be better. Prop 13 and Prop 98 cause the state to be perpetually underfunded. Republicanism works, but only if there is no way to completely circumvent the system (as an open ballot does).

October 9, 2016 - 20:39

Cameron Flores

who is he?

October 9, 2016 - 20:39

Grayson Hughes

Yes it's real. It was from one of the 'Bernie debates.

October 9, 2016 - 20:39

Justin Ward

And more economic equality is better for everyone. Limits racism, actually. A rich black man is more respected in our society than a poor one. Same goes for women. So an argument could even be made that yes, it will help sexism & racism.

October 9, 2016 - 20:41

Wyatt Harris

It's not going to work though, because nobody likes or trusts Hilary. That strategy is going to completely backfire if they actually use it.

The phase "you'd be in jail" only works if people have confidence in the accused, and Hilary does not have this. At best she's getting along because she's "not Trump". This is why when Trump made his comment, people clapped. And if Hilary or the MSM try to push this narrative, they'll just isolate themselves even more.

October 9, 2016 - 20:41

Ryan Kelly

looks vaguely like my dad, what about him?

October 9, 2016 - 20:41

Carter Johnson

looks like Rob Ford

October 9, 2016 - 20:42

James Bell

look, all us #woke hollywood celebs agree that Trump is silly! You have to vote for Clinton now

October 9, 2016 - 20:44

Asher Roberts

Trump won the debate according to the first focus group reaction we've got.
twitter.com/FrankLuntz

October 9, 2016 - 20:45

Nolan Rodriguez

I would say that much of why capitalism has persisted so long past its sell-by date, is that the proletariat have been convinced that they are incapable of ruling, and therefore must appoint others to rule for them. The essential process of revolution must be ending the division of labor between the rulers and the ruled. We must all take control of our own political lives.

October 9, 2016 - 20:46

Connor Jones

Even if Hillary appears moderately competent from the point of view of the average American, they don't care. What matters is projecting strength. The public wants revenge on the ruling class.

October 9, 2016 - 20:48

Luis Allen

I hate this shitty planet.

October 9, 2016 - 20:49

Asher King

Seems like CNN has Clinton winning.

October 9, 2016 - 20:52

Ian Price

*tips*

October 9, 2016 - 20:52

Oliver Hughes

They are incapable of ruling, at least inside large nation states. The ideal national government is one which puts the people (as a whole) needs first and individual areas last. However, this is the antithesis of direct democracy.

A clear example is CAHSR. The state wants it and has had to fight every single county, city, neighborhood and landowner to build it. Top to bottom, locals are putting their own shit first to the extreme determent of the state as a whole. Both hardcore Holla Forumsfags in shitholes like Tulare or Wasco fight for the same cause as 1%ers in Atherton or Palo Alto. This is what happens when people are allowed to own private property.

who rules what though? A legislator in Modoc has less power than a homeowner in San Francisco. Elites cannot be allowed to form enclaves or isolate themselves into their own communities, they must be dragged out and forced to use the same streets and same mass transit as everyone else.

October 9, 2016 - 20:55

Brayden Richardson

Like that means anything from them.

October 9, 2016 - 20:55

Brody Jones

of course, that's perfectly normal. wait for other online polls

October 9, 2016 - 20:56

Carter Ross

This. Trump is only getting away with this shit because it is Hillary. If it was against Barnaby Sandbars Trump would get his ass raped because there wouldn't be any low-hanging fruit for him to attack.

Aside from "He's a Commie!" card. Think about it. B████'s voters would've been constantly attacked as socialists and communists and I assure you that many would've started to look into it more since I am sure their mindset would've developed into "If those ideas B████ proposed are socialist and/or communist, maybe these things might not be so bad."

Of course they would still have to get over their own personal prejudices first before being involved in the far-left, but certainly the exposure would've been enough to increase the left's influence.

Truly it is the darkest timeline.

October 9, 2016 - 20:57

Julian Williams

speaking of which, Bernard Sandman is trending right now.

October 9, 2016 - 20:59

David Sullivan

WTF SARAH I FAPPED TO YOU

serves me right, I trusted 3DPD

October 9, 2016 - 21:01

Easton Collins

LOOK AT THIS TWEET BEFORE THEY DELTE IT

twitter.com/NBCNews/status/785299709342654465

LOOK AT THIS TWEET BEFORE THEY DELETE IT

October 9, 2016 - 21:03

Jayden Torres

Pottery

October 9, 2016 - 21:04

Ayden Phillips

shit taste fam

October 9, 2016 - 21:04

Nathan Peterson

screencap it if it's so important to preserve

October 9, 2016 - 21:05

Brayden Young

That' too troublesome. I don't tihnk it's important to preserve. I think you'll get a cold, cynical laugh out of it.

October 9, 2016 - 21:07

Cameron Parker

AYY LMAO!

Americans are unbelievably stupid.

October 9, 2016 - 21:10

Thomas Richardson

Best part of the night tbh, Trump openly admitting that he would assign a special prosecutor to ruin Hillary's life and throw her into a gulag for daring to run against him.

Really goes in line with the speculation that he only ran for President because Obama made fun of him at a White House Correspondents dinner.

October 9, 2016 - 21:13

Landon Barnes

On some level I fully support Trump's domestic fascism and his more "peaceful" foreign diplomacy. This would be a fine ironic revenge on America, considering all the dictators they support and all the wars they do outside of their own country.
On another level I just want shit to hit the fan.

October 9, 2016 - 21:20

Leo Parker

Lmao only Holla Forums can spin anti-corruption measures as fascism. I wonder why?

October 9, 2016 - 21:20

Aiden Myers

If you're talking about the guy who posted in this thread during the primaries, that's me.

I'm not saying Clinton is actually environmentalist, I'm saying that what she said should not be controversial (except perhaps that she is an environmentalist, you're right on that). It's clearly in Russia's interests to do so, and WikiLeaks has been used repeatedly to disseminate information gained by Russian spies. I don't expect WikiLeaks to behave like an actual news organization but Assange has books to sell and he's quite clearly playing up the controversy on that statement. Frankly I'm surprised there's nothing worse in there to nail Clinton on, considering iwilllookintoit.com/

I would find it 100% believable that Russia has funded fake American environmental groups to deter American oil projects and protect Russian oil exports (which America and NATO have specifically used to hit Russia with sanctions on in the past). It sounds exactly like the kind of thing Russia would do. Does that mean that Clinton doesn't have her own agenda or Big Oil doesn't have its own interests to protect? No. But framing the headline as "anti-fracking and environmental groups are a Russian plot" is pure fancy and if you try to spin that as her being "deplorable" you're a fool. There's much better reasons to be mad at her; Honduras coup, Puerto Rican minimum wage, war hawkishness in the Middle East, etc.

Frankly I find her rhetoric on Russia in this and previous debates and rallies alarming. Trump is way too cozy with Putin as a fellow fascist but I'm sternly against another Cold War.

October 9, 2016 - 21:20

Levi Lee

She's already been investigated and cleared of any wrongdoing. They had a million billion hearings on Benghazi (which was a complete joke) and, sad as it is, the FBI said there was no case over the emails. By saying he would continue to investigate her, use his Attorney General to hound her and do anything to put her away, he is saying he would directly abuse his executive powers to punish and silence his political opponents. It's fascism.

October 9, 2016 - 21:22

James Gray

Source?

October 9, 2016 - 21:23

Grayson Young

Plus in the past Trump has sued or threatened to sue dozens of people who've come out against him, so this is merely a new chapter in the book he is writing on abusing the power of law to destroy your opponents.

October 9, 2016 - 21:24

Jacob Jackson

Wow, no kidding? Well, she must have had a fair, real investigation and held to the standards of any other citizen.

October 9, 2016 - 21:24

Nathaniel James

Wouldn't be the first time 2bh

washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/5/irs-reveals-list-of-tea-party-groups-targeted-for-/

October 9, 2016 - 21:25

Jackson Kelly

The abuse of the power of law to destroy your opponents is using the laws regarding campaign and fundraising, and using the organizational structure of your political party to subvert fair elections in a completely legal manner that justice cannot technically be found in a court of law

October 9, 2016 - 21:26

Matthew Price

can't he just drone them? :^)

October 9, 2016 - 21:28

Andrew Foster

No, he's saying that a corrupt official that thinks they are above the law will be brought before court and tried.

October 9, 2016 - 21:28

Nolan Barnes

Sometimes the enemy of your enemy is still your enemy

October 9, 2016 - 21:29

Christian Torres

I agree, Nixon did nothing wrong

October 9, 2016 - 21:31

Benjamin Scott

And an investigation led by Trump and Mitch McConnell would not be a laughable kangaroo court?

Look, they held dozens of those Benghazi hearings. They couldn't come up with anything, anything at all. These people really wanted to nail her, badly. You can claim the FBI was suppressed but where are the Republican leaders backing that in any believable way? I wanted S█████ to win as badly as anyone. I attended his rallies, I handed out flyers, I led the thread here on phonebanking for him. I hoped the emails would disqualify her from the race so he could be nominated. They didn't, and as far as I'm concerned that's got to be the end of it. She has too many opponents for something like that to be quietly dropped unless they really couldn't make it stick.

abc.net.au/news/2013-12-31/wikileaks-meets-assad-in-syria/5180036

20committee.com/2013/07/06/wikileaks-snowden-and-the-belarus-connection/

theguardian.com/media/2015/aug/29/julian-assange-told-edward-snowdon-not-seek-asylum-in-latin-america

archive.is/wEW0o
The gist for non-Spanish speakers:

Assange wanted FSB bodyguards.

lol

October 9, 2016 - 21:35

Mason Watson

I wanted to projectile vomit at the TV when Trump started citing S█████ against her.

October 9, 2016 - 21:36

Evan Martin

>20committee.com/2013/07/06/wikileaks-snowden-and-the-belarus-connection/
>theguardian.com/media/2015/aug/29/julian-assange-told-edward-snowdon-not-seek-asylum-in-latin-america
>archive.is/wEW0o

October 9, 2016 - 21:37

Grayson Watson

That one was scientific. See the sampling error on the side? Online polls mean shit, lmao.

October 9, 2016 - 21:38

Levi Brooks

I meant the IRS bullshit, but hey, wasn't the main issue with Watergate that Nixon just got petty and overstepped what was generally considered acceptable?

But really, I don't give a shit if the dumbasses who wanna deepthroat Porky to the hilt get fucked in the ass by the people who want to talk the rest of America into it because it's the "lesser evil"

October 9, 2016 - 21:38

Nicholas Gray

I guess it's Latin American?

October 9, 2016 - 21:39

Xavier Mitchell

capped because that's great

October 9, 2016 - 21:39

Easton Anderson

Guys mods are sleeping, join the fun

reddit.com/r/politics/comments/56pqik/well_donald_trump_just_threatened_to_throw/

October 9, 2016 - 21:40

John Cruz

Actually they're not really sleeping, but there's like 60,000+ active users & both them & CTR are overwhelmed.

October 9, 2016 - 21:41

Christian King

It was more a comment on the other posters hysterics about President Trump imprisoning anyone who disagreed with him, and implying there aren't other means whereby the executive can fuck with their political opponents

October 9, 2016 - 21:42

Gabriel Kelly

Yep, it's pottery.

October 9, 2016 - 21:43

Elijah Thompson

20committee is definitely American propaganda. He is the American equivalent of the Russians he denounces.

The Guardian is also Anglo-American propaganda.

October 9, 2016 - 21:43

Jackson Barnes

It was far from the only takeaway, just my personal favorite. I also liked when he blamed Muslim communities for not policing themselves (in a similar vein to how he blamed Black communities for not uplifting themselves) to the face of the lady who asked that question, and when he rambled for two minutes about nothing and the moderator had to repeat the question.

October 9, 2016 - 21:44

Ian Reyes

The fuck

October 9, 2016 - 21:45

Carter Russell

Most media is propaganda. WikiLeaks is propaganda, obviously. The important thing is sifting the slant from the truth. I personally think Clinton was entirely justified in what she said, and I'm sincerely disappointed nothing more damning came from the speeches she so zealously guarded. Russian hackers need to put their game faces on.

October 9, 2016 - 21:45

Logan Ramirez

This is why I assume anything written in political media is a lie.

October 9, 2016 - 21:46

Jordan Perry

Eh alright, it's just tiring hearing about rightist chucklefucks whine about how oppressed they are (ironic, no?) while ignoring, supporting, or even glorifying oppression of others.

I mean there were a bunch of progressive groups caught up in that IRS scandal too, and the only groups to actually get denied were the left-leaning ones.

October 9, 2016 - 21:47

Evan Gutierrez

This is so calming to see.

October 9, 2016 - 21:47

Gabriel Price

Kinda seems a bit religious, tbh. I think God was trying to tell us something.

October 9, 2016 - 21:48

Kevin Carter

Exactly. It's as non-scandalous as Clinton defending that pedophile rapist. People were just doing their jobs.

October 9, 2016 - 21:48

Gabriel Hernandez

Rightists don't see anything wrong with oppression per se. They only get upset about what they perceive as oppression of whites. Oppression of other races is totally fine and possibly even good. Anything done by the whites in the interests of white people is good, even if it's immoral by any normal person's standard.

October 9, 2016 - 21:49

Landon Hill

Yes, yes, tell us more about how the Left historically have been renowned for their repudiation of political violence (Well the people on the receiving end were reactionaries, after all..)

October 9, 2016 - 21:53

Isaiah Price

Yeah leftists tend to react in a bizarre way when Trump says something they agree with or know as true. Their brain immediately tries to support the opposite opinion, but this can be seriously stressful on the body when those opinions are well entrenched.

October 9, 2016 - 21:56

Ryder Hall

I liked Reich's take on an ideal Hillary win:

1. Hillary Clinton is elected President.

2. Democrats take over the Senate, and reduce the Republican margin in the House to just 3 votes.

3. Elizabeth Warren announces she’ll challenge Hillary in the 2020 Democratic primaries if Hillary isn’t sufficiently progressive and bold during her first term.

4. The Democratic National Committee issues new rules eliminating “superdelegates” and requiring open primaries.

5. In her inaugural address, Hillary Clinton promises to “wrest back control of our democracy and economy from the moneyed interests that have taken over both.”

6. President Hillary Clinton nominates Barack Obama to the Supreme Court, who immediately pledges to reverse “Citizens United.” Senate Democrats make a rule change that allows Obama to be confirmed with 51 Senate votes. He is.

7. President Clinton nominates B████ ██████ for Treasury Secretary and Michelle Obama for Attorney General. Both are immediately confirmed.

8. The chairman of the Republican Party officially repudiates Donald Trump, saying “shame on us for having nominated him.” Mitch McConnell, Newt Gingrich, Rudy Giuliani, and Mike Pence appear in a joint news conference in which they apologize for having ever supported Trump.

9. Disgraced and with his brand in tatters, the value of Trump’s properties drops 80 percent. His creditors demand that his personal assets – homes, planes, furniture, all he possesses – be liquidated to pay his bills.

10. Rupert Murdoch fires Sean Hannity from Fox News.

Of course Warren is a sell-out who backed Clinton over S█████ and I doubt she'd pressure Clinton to be more leftist, let alone with threat of a primary challenge. Clinton's people fought B████ tooth and nail over the platform. It's really a shame there's no viable leftist party to challenge the Democrats for progressive voters, establishment Dems are fucking neoliberal class traitors.

October 9, 2016 - 21:58

Nolan Morgan

>>>Holla Forums

October 9, 2016 - 21:58

Connor Bailey

He's right.

October 9, 2016 - 21:58

Christopher Cruz

I can't wait for November 9th so Fucking bad. Who started drinking lately?

October 9, 2016 - 21:58

Nathan Thompson

On a semi-related note did you guys hear Glenn Beck supported BLM? Or is this old news by now

October 9, 2016 - 21:59

Nathan Fisher

Are you a child?

October 9, 2016 - 22:00

Jace Stewart

If the Republicans repudiate Trump, the Republican base will repudiate them. Ethno-nationalism is the new thing.

October 9, 2016 - 22:00

Daniel Ramirez

This is horrible.

October 9, 2016 - 22:01

Matthew Evans

Can I have what you're (or Reich) smoking?

October 9, 2016 - 22:01

Daniel Nelson

Few people actually care about oppression full stop, they've always got some way to justify why it's righteous when they like it and horrendous when they don't.

October 9, 2016 - 22:02

Levi Green

The only thing he's right about is that the standard donkeys vs. elephants status quo would immediately reassert itself with a extreme vengeance.

October 9, 2016 - 22:03

Angel Campbell

It's copypaste from his blog, m8, he said it was wishful thinking.

Can't a man dream?

October 9, 2016 - 22:03

Joseph Perry

The only thing that may happen is a Clinton Democratic challengerin 2020 though. B████ would be too old and Warren said repeatedly said she won't run for president.

October 9, 2016 - 22:04

Nolan Long

Bernie wasn't even in the race anymore, and they kept referencing him. Making him sound like he's on their side a bit.
B████ said this, B████ and I…, Jesus.

October 9, 2016 - 22:06

Isaac Smith

I think it's a dick.

October 9, 2016 - 22:07

Jason Powell

The idea of a primary challenge against HRC is laughable on every level.

October 9, 2016 - 22:07

Joshua Collins

Well, it shows that they think B████ has strong support among the voter base. It's good for him politically.

October 9, 2016 - 22:07

Andrew Gonzalez

Bernie was what Trump wishes he was.

October 9, 2016 - 22:09

Lucas Ward

This. It made me sick to my stomach on how these people were using him as a political gain during the debate. Jesus fuck B████ should've ran 3rd party. Especially against two asses as opponents.

October 9, 2016 - 22:09

Andrew Miller

It's good because it shows that both parties realize the voter base could leave them at any second.
Both candidates have to pander to the Sandernistas to win. I would hate it even more if they ignored the Sandman and acted like everything was fine.

October 9, 2016 - 22:10

Justin Perry

Not quite

It'd be too good for a sandernista to do this.

October 9, 2016 - 22:19

Luke Nguyen

Welp, that reddit thread was fun while it lasted. Now it's removed from the front page because of "rehosted content", lmao.

I wonder if other threads are being overrun by real people; I'm going in.

October 9, 2016 - 22:21

Jacob Morales

What kind of lefty are you?

What's going on?

October 9, 2016 - 22:22

Alexander Sullivan

A better lefty than you

October 9, 2016 - 22:29

Chase Brown

reddit.com/r/politics/comments/56pqik/well_donald_trump_just_threatened_to_throw/

Everyone was calling out CTR & how BS r/politics is. Now they removed the post from the front page, because of it.

October 9, 2016 - 22:30

Evan Green

How broken am I

October 9, 2016 - 22:38

Wyatt Flores

CNN coaching those "voters"

youtube.com/watch?v=GqCIub3SmCI

October 9, 2016 - 22:39

Easton Miller

You're not broken.. That's hot, comrade.

October 9, 2016 - 22:55

Alexander Watson

I posted in the tiny "Still for S█████/progressive causes" subreddits with my dumb little image seen here:

I was immediately downvoted to hell, accused of "worshiping B████ like a God," being a "like a crazed religious nut who sees meaning in nothing," was called "creepy," "a Trump advocate" (???) and all of these comments included some reference to me being insane for commenting on the fact that Hillary had flies land on her during a televised debate. And then of course my submissions were deleted by the mods.

Again, these are subreddits FOR S█████ with only a few thousand subscribers each, it's past midnight, and yet still, dare to mention anything pro-Sanders or that jokingly paints Hillary in a bad light and people come out of the woodwork with their comments to "correct the record" until the mods find it and delete everything for daring to support B████ on subs dedicated to supporting B████.

What the fuck, man.
I just thought the image was a funny comparison to make :(

October 9, 2016 - 23:11

Michael Hughes

plebbit's gonna pleb i guess.
How people can still trust that site is beyond me.

October 9, 2016 - 23:15

Kevin Martin

nice dubs

what's the comparison?

October 9, 2016 - 23:20

Dylan Ortiz

It was funny as Hell, comrade. :)

And yeah, even r/political_revolution, where they directed all the S4P redditors to go, went to shit. These CTR & hyper partisan fucks either can't think critically or are paid not to.

Anyway, I saved it. We'll enjoy it.

October 9, 2016 - 23:24

Owen Myers

>>>/ctr/

October 9, 2016 - 23:34

Carter Edwards

I'll freely admit even Donald had some good lines in the debate today. Doesn't change the fact that he's a crazed orange fascist and she's a murdering piece of shit hypocrite.

Go back to Holla Forums if you want to be shielded from dissenting opinions.

October 9, 2016 - 23:39

Sebastian Roberts

HBO's viral marketing is on point.

October 9, 2016 - 23:42

Charles Sanders

>>>/ctr/

October 9, 2016 - 23:44

Owen Lewis

>>>Holla Forums

October 9, 2016 - 23:47

Gabriel Nelson

>>>/ctr/

October 9, 2016 - 23:48

Carson Lopez

fucking triggered, Jesus christ

October 9, 2016 - 23:50

Levi Jackson

wsws.org/en/articles/2016/10/10/pers-o10.html

10 October 2016

October 10, 2016 - 00:00

Christian Powell

Patrick Martin

October 10, 2016 - 00:00

Brandon Rogers

youtube.com/watch?v=zHh73fkDUIs

Reminder that Clinton's husband is a serial rapist.

October 10, 2016 - 01:51

Daniel Edwards

this is a joke right?

October 10, 2016 - 02:04

Wyatt Perez

NBC in its entirety is a joke so yes, yes it is.

October 10, 2016 - 02:15

Charles Hall

...

October 10, 2016 - 02:17

Bentley Rivera

archive.is/AShSx

October 10, 2016 - 02:20

James Peterson

Wtf did I just watch?

October 10, 2016 - 02:52

Hudson Hughes

Don't forget, at the end of all this: B████ was right. Hilary is a fucking crook and is the reason why Trump will be President.

But it was not to be. The Democrats played with fire, they got burned. Hopefully they'll spend the next four years rebuilding their base with Sander's policies and not try something suicidal like running DWS in 2020.

October 10, 2016 - 02:57

Christian Brooks

And this is why Hilary won't win: Americans are absolutely and totally fucking sick of war. This is why Obama got a Supermajority in 2008, and why Cruz lost to Trump this year. Even if she did somehow win, and start a war, all she would do is nuke the Democrats' like Bush did with the GOP.

October 10, 2016 - 03:01

Jaxson Bell

I'm normally very empirical and rational, but given the shitshow this election season has been, nigga don't say shit like that, you'll make it come true!

October 10, 2016 - 03:02

Josiah Gray

autism escaping this thread in vast quantities

October 10, 2016 - 03:51

Cooper Jackson

Not to sound like an SJW, but the pictures of that focus group make it look very white. Are these things not stratified by race?

October 10, 2016 - 04:07

Camden Edwards

i don't even like the guy but it'll be top notch for sure

October 10, 2016 - 04:14

Mason Sanders

lol this is actually real

October 10, 2016 - 04:19

Ayden Hernandez

twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/785306137168007168
How are they measuring approval in real-time? Anyway, it's surreal what "representative democracy" has come to.

October 10, 2016 - 04:26

Eli Diaz

yes, yes it is

October 10, 2016 - 05:40

Camden Green

Never been to Rockerfeller Center NYC, Universal Studios LA or Mandalay Bay in Vegas, I take it.

Anyway, all three allow the public to "test" new shows. Viewers are seated (usually about 25-50 at a time) in a room, each given an electronic dial. They then watch a handful of 2-5 minute pitch videos for hilarious new TV shows (I remember one being a rip off of hoarders), and turn the dial depending on how much they enjoy or dislike the show at that very moment (there is also the "change channel" button, which they're instructed to press if they would change the channel out of boredom).

CNN obviously uses this technology with their debate audiences, but with "candidate preference" instead of "good/bad". I believe they started doing so in 2004 or 2008.

I'd dig up a link but I forget *exactly* what it was called.

October 10, 2016 - 05:56

Hunter Carter

I'm not a burger, so no. America keeps surprising me, no matter how much more cynical my views become each time. I knew never would have thought they're applying the same method for testing new TV shows to this political reality show. It makes sense though. After all, whoever wins the "audition" has to entertain the people for the next 4 years.

October 10, 2016 - 06:15

Cooper Rogers

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/785474021211140096

PODESTA EMAILS: PART DEUX

October 10, 2016 - 06:46

Liam Perez

She also nuked the Republicans, major news networks, and public trust in our electoral process.

In her single minded quest to be the first female President, she has destroyed fucking everything.

October 10, 2016 - 06:55

Brandon Martin

I predict that within five years, instead of giving them a dial they will hook them up to "wearable" tech that monitors shit like heartrate, galvanic skin response, and pupil dilation.

October 10, 2016 - 07:03

Chase Bennett

Hey man, give Trump some credit. He contributed probably at least as much.

October 10, 2016 - 07:04

Nolan Peterson

Trump is just a rabid dog Hillary forced on the Republicans. Any damage he's done is her responsibility for giving him power.

October 10, 2016 - 07:08

Logan Peterson

jesus christ, it keeps happening!

it really makes me wonder if that video of hilary saying nigger is real

October 10, 2016 - 07:10

Nicholas Adams

CP TIME STANDS FOR CAUTIOUS POLITICIAN TIME

October 10, 2016 - 07:13

Brandon Martin

This pisses me off even more because if that were S█████, they would have crucified him for it.

October 10, 2016 - 07:14

Adrian Russell

No because people won't go for it then. If someone is going to pay $10 per person (yes, they charge for this shit as to not interfere with professional focus groups) they don't want to be hooked up to an EKG especially if they're holding a soda or eating (the one at Mandalay Bay is adjacent a food court, the one at the Rock is a two minute walk from a Mcdonalds).

Also remember that as these are tourist attractions, all manner of people touch these things. As a result they have to get wiped down after each use. Comcast (NBC's owner) is not going to bother blowing a disposable EKG thingy on what is supposed to be a profitable tourist trap and not an actual indicator of what people want (they have actual focus groups for that).

October 10, 2016 - 07:15

Nathan Turner

Dude, they could literally just give them a fitbit or something to measure heartrate.

October 10, 2016 - 07:16

Carter Brown

Sony did exactly that with their electronic 3d headsets (for 3D TVs, not VR) in their adjacent booths and it was shut down because people kept getting pink eye. They're going to have the same problem with PSVR demos.

Also, remember that even a bracelet has to FIT on peoples' wrists. We're talking about domestic American tourists here.

October 10, 2016 - 07:24

Isaac Turner

Just like Sony to not bother cleaning those things.

October 10, 2016 - 07:29

Julian Cook

The one time I went to Disneyworld at least half of all the people there were overweight, with about a third being comically obese. It's not a thing Europeans could understand without actually visiting America.

October 10, 2016 - 07:37

Oliver Barnes

Not sure how Democracy Now fucked up that expanding debate stream last night, but you can find some of Jill Stein's response to the debate on her facebook.

facebook.com/drjillstein

October 10, 2016 - 07:43

Gabriel Torres

None of those sources state that

Try again CTR.

October 10, 2016 - 07:45

Leo Gomez

Wait looks like they've finally put it together here:

democracynow.org/2016/10/10/expanding_the_debate_jill_stein_debates

October 10, 2016 - 08:03

Zachary Butler

I don't understand why Gary Johnson keeps declining to join in on this. Is he retarded?

Or does he think it will harm him more to debate Stein because he knows he'll lose?

October 10, 2016 - 08:12

Gavin Hughes

Baudrillard was saying the exact same thing to his European friends back then.

insomnia.ac/essays/simulations/

October 10, 2016 - 08:12

Asher Anderson

>on my Holla Forums
Oh no you didn't.

October 10, 2016 - 08:16

Nathan Cooper

People actually read this shit? Fuck, that's depressing.

October 10, 2016 - 08:21

Camden Bailey

Do Trump and Clinton both have a problem with lip smacking or was it an issue with mic setup last night?

October 10, 2016 - 08:25

Jaxson Turner

What I linked is from Baudrillard's book. I have no idea what that autism in that image is and how it's connected to what I posted.

October 10, 2016 - 08:25

Matthew Jones

Insomnia.ac is a website by an autistic, sociopathic Kierkegaard worshiper mostly to post his stupid opinions about video games. He once published a book with his rich parent's money.

October 10, 2016 - 08:28

Carson Brown

Also a wanted criminal I guess.

icycalmisacriminal.wordpress.com/

October 10, 2016 - 08:31

Kevin Howard

underrated post and yeah pretty much

i'm watching the jill stein debate now because i ~gasp, shock~ AGREED with like 80% of what trump was saying and it all makes me wonder how much of it is a ploy by clever and pissed off republicans to make $hillary actually fucking change on the issues where she is weak or wrong.

like after this debate how many of trump's good ideas will actually make it into practice.

if it's as assange says, and She is unable to be agile and responsive to the needs of the people, as she owes too many favors to those who are bankrolling her campaign (therefore her choice of running mate Kaine) that likelihood hovers near zero. sad!

October 10, 2016 - 08:33

Ayden Phillips

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/2986

Kaine, whom btw she chose as a running mate as early as July, 2015.

October 10, 2016 - 08:42

Joshua Mitchell

What a cocktease

October 10, 2016 - 08:44

Charles Sullivan

Also, for those who care Sony had 3DTV demo booths outside all three of the public TV test things, because Comcast charges extra for streaming 3D movies.

October 10, 2016 - 08:50

Sebastian Allen

GJ is the former Governor of Arizona. He runs the LP and probably has an ago bigger than Texas as a result.

Remember that the Greens have a handful of seats in Washington, Oregon and Jefferson (term for the upstate part of Northern California).

October 10, 2016 - 08:52

Alexander Long

theintercept.com/2016/10/09/exclusive-new-email-leak-reveals-clinton-campaigns-cozy-press-relationship/

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/302

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/2087

LOL. There are some other interesting things in that last link as well.

October 10, 2016 - 08:53

Blake Sanchez

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3599

This is an email from Bill Ivey who "was appointed chairman of the National Endowment for the Arts, by President Bill Clinton and served from 1998 to 2001" (wikipedia). The email was sent to Podesta.

October 10, 2016 - 09:17

Liam Turner

Well on the bright side it will be easy to convince the average prole with shit like this.

October 10, 2016 - 09:22

Evan Cooper

rt.com/viral/362272-podesta-emails-aliens-vatican/

AYYY LMAO=

October 10, 2016 - 09:26

Jayden Foster

Jesus fuck

October 10, 2016 - 09:30

Mason Phillips

What the fuck, the "forces" can be easily explained: people are programmed to enjoy TV (Trump is a TV entertainer) and to worship America (Trump's slogan is Make America Great Again), and many of them have seen a gradual erosion of their purchasing power due to free trade (a thing Trump vows to stop) while many more just hate brown people (Trump promises to build a wall).

It is truly horrifying that porky is this incompetent. He's drinking his own kool aid.

October 10, 2016 - 09:36

Sebastian Allen

Reminder that Americans as so propagandized that a candidate calling for an anti-corruption platform is considered a maniac.

October 10, 2016 - 09:44

Austin Morris

Never underestimate the ability of a leftist to delude themselves into thinking they can totally understand, reshape and unmake society

October 10, 2016 - 09:46

Anthony Sullivan

ftfy

October 10, 2016 - 10:14

Thomas Rodriguez

...

October 10, 2016 - 10:16

Luke Adams

It makes me really pissed thinking about Obama. I was so optimistic in 2008, that things would get fixed. His legacy will be that of an ineffectual, completely impotent President who created a circumstance where fucking Donald Trump could win. Let's imagine a world where Obama had actually sent some bankers to jail, cut down the NSA and prevented their emails from leaking everywhere.

And let's not forget: Detroit went bankrupt. GM fired most of their union workforce, this year Ford announced they are removing their last factory out of Michegan. Stone cold betrayal to the workers who had put their faith into Obama. Michegan is a red state now, like Indiana is. So is Wisconsin.

youtube.com/watch?v=M9CH3HuJVls

October 10, 2016 - 10:16

Jonathan Richardson

bruv Trump is easy as fuck to understand

the establishment and MSM don't because doing so would contradict the worldview that their jobs depend upon

October 10, 2016 - 10:18

Owen Green

Why does this feel so gut-wrenchingly appropriate?

October 10, 2016 - 10:20

Benjamin Brown

But weren't the democrats trying to do just that exact same thing? They even pick out Trump as a personality to magnify to try and fuck up the Republican electoral process.

October 10, 2016 - 10:24

Brayden Hall

Maybe they (the party) weren't actively trying to court donors, some of them just went along with it like Hillary. What if the democrats are actually that naive… We are talking about liberals here.

October 10, 2016 - 10:27

Lincoln Sanders

...

October 10, 2016 - 10:31

Jaxon Gray

It's the 1960 election again. That was the election with the first televised debate. As the story goes, radio listeners thought Nixon won but TV viewers thought JFK won. This was because JFK wore makeup to look better, while Nixon thought himself above such a thing (and ended up appearing sweaty under hot studio lights). A new mode of media is replacing the older one.

October 10, 2016 - 10:33

Isaac Hughes

What vice story is that from?

October 10, 2016 - 10:34

Easton Foster

I dunno, I find it hard to believe that aliens that allegedly won't tolerate any sort of violence either on earth or in space would actively aid the very humans that cause the majority of violence on the planet.

October 10, 2016 - 10:35

Christian Nelson

ETs with advanced space travel have probably advanced philosophically to the point that they don't do that caveman thing we do where someone does something we don't like so we do the equivalent of bashing them with a club.

October 10, 2016 - 10:36

Grayson Wright

mate, let's be honest here: leftypol is total slime, that's at least partially why we come here in the first place
if you don't want slime read books and articles (if you don't already)

October 10, 2016 - 10:38

Christian Nguyen

about Chelsea (referred to as "cvc" in the email):
wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/2874

October 10, 2016 - 10:43

Alexander Roberts

Chelsea (cvc) and World Jewish Congress (wjc) make people suicidal:
wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3332#efmAdAAmB

October 10, 2016 - 10:49

Nicholas Sanders

fucking kek, all these years and I STILL can't get away from Holla Forums drama

October 10, 2016 - 10:50

Elijah Miller

I love that all this dirty laundry is coming out. You know that they're all reading this shit, too.

Each one of these dumps is an interpersonal nuclear bomb.

October 10, 2016 - 10:54

Eli Lee

I'm not surprised. This is too typical of children of politicians. Even porkies typically demand their children to find their way at dealmaking so they can take over the family business.

October 10, 2016 - 11:03

Jace Martinez

Doesn't this just about prove that Hillary Clinton conspired to install DWS in order to rig the primaries? Obviously not in a very direct way, but this is probably the closest we'll get.

October 10, 2016 - 11:24

Isaiah Taylor

He's talking about Kek.

October 10, 2016 - 11:35

Kayden Howard

Apologies, wjc isn't "World Jewish Congress", kek. That's what came up first when I online searched the acronym, and they have connections with Clintons (of course), so I thought… Anyway, wjc is a person, although I don't know who.

October 10, 2016 - 11:42

Joshua Collins

wjc is actually Bill Clinton's company that is used to avoid taxes.
theweek.com/speedreads/617761/clintons-are-using-5-shell-companies-save-taxes-delaware

October 10, 2016 - 11:53

Lincoln Carter

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3774

A pretty incredible email. Details on middle eastern foreign policy from John Podesta straight to Hill Dawg's unsecured email account.

Some highlights:
-It calls out Saudi Arabia and Qatar for funding ISIL.
-The US sees the Peshmerga as a key ally in fighting ISIL and is now authorized to receive heavy weapons and armor, when previously they refrained from doing so with regards to Turkey
-The diplomatic situation with Turkey makes the previous "obsolete."
-Confirms that US special forces have been operating in the area/with the Peshmerga
-They refer to their interference in Iraq, Syria, Libya, etc, "from across North Africa to the borders of Turkey," "regional restructuring."

October 10, 2016 - 11:56

Colton Mitchell

They also talk about using the Peshmerga augmented with US special forces assistance to punish Turkey if they continue to drift toward Islamism.
6. In the end the situation in Iraq is merely the latest and dangerous example of the regional restructuring that is taking place across North Africa, all the way to the Turkish border. These developments are important to the U.S. for reasons that often differ from country to country: energy and moral commitment to Iraq, energy issues in Libya, and strategic commitments in Jordan. At the same time, as Turkey moves toward a new, more serious Islamic reality, it will be important for them to realize that we are willing to take serious actions, which can be sustained to protect our national interests. This course of action offers the potential for success, as opposed to large scale, traditional military campaigns, that are too expensive and awkward to maintain over time.

October 10, 2016 - 12:00

Liam Powell

Remember that mysterious "h" get on Holla Forums that baffled everybody? It was somebody from the Clintons:
wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3999#efmAALAAM

Also:

October 10, 2016 - 12:16

Levi Smith

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/2283#efmAc7AfF
Spoken like a true neoliberal technocrat… People's lives simply don't matter.

October 10, 2016 - 12:36

Gavin Jenkins

this is idiotic, KRG and Turkey are on very good diplomatic terms. Peshmerga isn't a threat to Turkey in the least. It's PKK and YPG they hate.

October 10, 2016 - 12:40

Caleb Sanchez

Oh god, I can't wait to see what this "hard-hitting" research entails - even less regulation for Wall Street? An expanded TPP?

October 10, 2016 - 12:40

Luis Taylor

somebody should make a node map where all the emails are visible as lines like on a pin board that you can follow. you could sort by name and date and it'd make all this shit so much easier to search through.

October 10, 2016 - 12:43

Cooper Carter

Wikileaks' search engine should at least display short excerpts highlighting the searched keywords within the contents of the email. Like any other web search engine.
Now I'm mostly just looking for interesting or mysterious subject lines when there's a lot of results.

October 10, 2016 - 12:50

Nolan Lewis

what a cunt, so he is fighting facists because people are turned into tumbleretas lefties scumbag faggots.

That fucking dissonance in jewish leftism ideals.

October 10, 2016 - 13:01

Nolan Perez

Can't you just use another search engine with the site:wikileaks.org/database function?

October 10, 2016 - 13:15

Aiden Turner

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3990#efmAE8AKdARdAV3

October 10, 2016 - 13:21

Nolan Long

fella are you retarded?

October 10, 2016 - 13:23

Jason Martinez

...

October 10, 2016 - 13:35

Camden Brooks

youtube.com/watch?v=rKKQnnjTQFw
lmao

October 10, 2016 - 13:50

Joshua Davis

Wjc

William Jefferson Clinton

October 10, 2016 - 17:32

Charles Adams

I just wanna overthrow capitalism and get smothered by a pair of gigantic boobs

October 10, 2016 - 17:35

Nolan Torres

remember to never ever intern for any political party ever

October 10, 2016 - 18:50

Elijah Hall

What did he mean by this?

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3115

October 10, 2016 - 18:58

Aiden James

Are we sure these aren't the Posadas emails?

October 10, 2016 - 19:01

Andrew Myers

its from this article

scmp.com/business/article/1890589/ufos-are-out-there-and-so-booming-conspiracy-industry

October 10, 2016 - 19:06

Nathan Lee

>remember to never ever intern for any political party ever
Sorry, but that pretty much describes every internship.

October 10, 2016 - 19:07

Angel Lewis

...

October 10, 2016 - 20:23

Matthew Green

Holy shit, check out the red scare propaganda in this comment section.

reddit.com/r/politics/comments/56vchl/scandal_wikileaks_reveals_hillary_clinton_to_be/

I sincerely hope these are astroturfers. But the fact that some Americans could believe them, is insane to me.

Not to mention the article as well. The people who run these media orgs will be first to be gulaged. Ffs.

October 10, 2016 - 23:37

Lucas Cox

washingtonpost.com/opinions/scandal-wikileaks-reveals-hillary-clinton-to-be--reasonable/2016/10/10/bbad509c-8f19-11e6-9c52-0b10449e33c4_story.html?utm_term=.fcdc9959fc7d#comments

Some faith restored. People calling out the article for the spin piece it is.

October 10, 2016 - 23:45

Nathan Gray

Considering it's /r/politics the chances are pretty much 100%

October 10, 2016 - 23:45

Cooper Mitchell

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/2528#efmABSACeAPRASIAatAdVAj_Al2Ap2Aqp

October 11, 2016 - 02:59

Kayden Reed

Seems like Hillary's staff have a lick of sense about them, then.

October 11, 2016 - 03:21

Noah Edwards

Of course they have. These people are not stupid just because their voters are.

October 11, 2016 - 03:42

David Peterson

not even WUT

October 11, 2016 - 03:50

Jaxon Phillips

In the eyes of Hillary supporters the more she is criticized the more she's like Jesus Christ being crucified.
Any criticism only further proves that there's a massive sexist conspiracy against her, and that must be because all these sexist evil people will suffer under Hillary the leader of trickle-down feminism.

Soon they will be talking about Satanic forces that want to prevent the second coming of Jesus Hillary Christ.

October 11, 2016 - 04:19

Jack Nguyen

Those people are a minority. The vast, VAST, majority of Hilary supporters (in terms of actual voters) don't care about corruption, unethical behavior, or general untrustworthiness. She's the person with a -D next to her name. Criticism of her, to them, is just "republicans whining". They shrug it off as "schoolyard insults" or similar. It's sad, really. Most Democrats have become so numb that they'll vote for anything with a -D. But then again, many are also voting for Hilary because she's just as shameless as they are (remember that most of her voters will be boomers). She's an accurate reflection of her base.

October 11, 2016 - 04:57

Matthew Davis

In Secret Goldman Sachs Speech, Hillary Clinton Admitted No-Fly Zone Would “Kill a Lot of Syrians”
theintercept.com/2016/10/10/in-secret-goldman-sachs-speech-hillary-clinton-admitted-no-fly-zone-would-kill-a-lot-of-syrians/

Yeah, I totally agree. I meant those who are aggressively supporting and defending her on the Internet.
What really bothers me is that there's a massive downplaying of her foreign "policy" without even denying it. I've seen a lot of people reply to her role in killings of civilians with something like "Yeah, well, it's not like Trump is perfect, he hates minorities!" It's just this arrogant attitude of "who the fuck cares about those people, their deaths are nothing compared to our own agenda at home".

October 11, 2016 - 05:41

Joseph James

The Podesta Emails Part 3 (1190 new emails)

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/785819973247795200

October 11, 2016 - 05:51

Isaac Lewis

First, some funny stuff about Chelsea:
-cvc is too chatty about internal stuff to bush kids who then report to the republicans
wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/5213
-cvc gets easily manipulated by self-interested people hurting the organization
wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/4629#efmAPfAR8AVkAYs

October 11, 2016 - 06:40

Caleb Howard

So is the Clinton establishment still in support of a no-fly zone?

October 11, 2016 - 06:45

Leo Allen

Yes but you never know if something is her public or private position :^)
wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/346#efmBW8BYZEZaEac

October 11, 2016 - 06:57

Nicholas Williams

Isn't the one she says in public de facto her public position?

You just never know if her private position is the same.

October 11, 2016 - 07:01

Oliver Bell

It all depends on the audience. In this case the audience was Israeli leaders.
brookings.edu/series/saban-forum/

October 11, 2016 - 07:05

Ayden Flores

Nigga that leak is 2015; have they restated their commitment to a no-fly zone within the past month or two?

October 11, 2016 - 07:05

Owen Martinez

And her "no-fly zone will kill a lot of Syrians" remark is from 2013 Goldman Sachs speech. So that didn't make her change her mind. I'm sure they're still for it, the establishment has been talking about how to "rebrand" no-fly zone to the American public because that term has become too controversial.

October 11, 2016 - 07:11

Julian Morris

Russian involvement hadn't escalated so severely, even in 2015; so it's not clear if their commitment has remained to the cause.

October 11, 2016 - 07:21

Jack Hall

Of course she is. Neoliberals believe that world policing is needed to ensure compliance with western capitalism. This includes doing stupid shit like blowing another $9 trillion in the sandbox or starting a pissing match with both Russia and China.

October 11, 2016 - 07:29

Brayden Taylor

I have to admit I'm sort of in the same boat. If it weren't for the S█████/Trump populist phenomenon, I'd just write off everything she says as "eh, establishment politician, whatchagonna do?" since she would still inevitably be better than the Republican alternative for her term, until the next round of futile hopes and failed dreams in four more years.

But I think voting Trump might (somewhat indirectly) cause a breakup of the neocon/neolib "left"/"right" antipopulist consensus that has dominated American political "discourse" for the last four decades, on top of which, the unprecedented political opposition he faces would almost certainly reduce the typical noxiousness of a Republican presidency.

In this strange environment, scandal of the sort so ubiquitous among establishment politicians is actually worth caring about to me, both to sink Clinton now, and weigh down Trump after he wins.

October 11, 2016 - 07:50

Hudson Robinson

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/4433#efmABtAC6AKDALc

Not that this is important, of course they hate us. It's just interesting that this is said in the context of what she will say in her public speech, in the sense of "Yeah, I know she hates them and doesn't want to do something good for them, but let's make her mention this one policy anyway, she can take it." Almost as if it's hard for her to say it because of her hate or something. I mean, why would her hate be relevant anyway when it's all just a show?

October 11, 2016 - 07:57

Jason Bailey

yeah, throwing people in jail for political reasons is tots unamerican.
the entire article is one long spiel against Hugo Chavez and an apology for the liberal status quo. Don't even bother reading it.

October 11, 2016 - 08:00

Carson Russell

The whole point is that he would throw her in jail for her actual crimes in the first place, not "just because I can". So Dems are hypocritical to the 2nd power. That's actually the appeal of Trump's populism, he tries to appear to be against the impunity of the establishment.

October 11, 2016 - 08:08

Jonathan Green

I just don't understand you "leftists" sometimes.

October 11, 2016 - 08:30

Adam Bailey

Stein will almost certainly get her 5%, and the lolberts 15% (bluch), but it's honestly a 50/50 tossup as to whether Trump or Hillary will produce less apathywin the presidency.

October 11, 2016 - 08:40

Logan Miller

Here we have that "strongly unaware but decreasingly compliant citizenry"

October 11, 2016 - 09:03

Cooper Brown

5% is cool and a reasonable goal, but really every extra % is more solidarity again and intimidation for the Democratic elite. The more the merrier.

October 11, 2016 - 09:05

Owen Nguyen

The most we could possibly hope for beyond that is an 1824-style shitshow, which would be pretty hilarious, but the House would obviously pick Clinton.

October 11, 2016 - 09:26

Hunter Rodriguez

What makes you say that? I think Clinton is going to win due to the aggressive media propaganda. They are already spinning wikileaks releases so hard as either fabricated or positive (wtf?!). They will also be sensationalizing some other stupid things Trump said twenty years ago.

These leaks are sadly just some kind of depressing entertainment at the moment. It will be interesting to see their effect during her presidency, they are not going away and can be used against her anytime in the future.

October 11, 2016 - 09:38

Colton King

WW 3 is "global restructuring."

October 11, 2016 - 10:15

Cooper Harris

Character assassination hasn't work against Trump yet, and I see no reason that will change, short of "shooting a manLGTBBQ in the street" anyone who cares about that sort of thing was never going to vote for him, although I suppose it might be enough to scare up some Clinton support from apathetic voters.

The only thing that could actually hurt Trump is to attack him on the issues, but that's never going to happen, since everything Trump is wrong about the establishment actually agrees with him on, and everything the establishment disagrees with Trump about, they know Trump (or at least his nebulous public image) is correct about.

October 11, 2016 - 10:17

Nathaniel Davis

He does lose a little bit of support after each of those sensationalized "scandals" though. And you still have S█████ supporters slowly coming over to Clinton:
youtube.com/watch?v=3S3XQzOlUrY

October 11, 2016 - 10:42

Josiah Phillips

thoughts ?

newgrounds.com/portal/view/679224

October 11, 2016 - 10:52

Leo Cruz

Jill interview by Cenk "What Armenian Genocide" Ugyur a couple days ago:

youtube.com/watch?v=pM1yU7S5e_4

October 11, 2016 - 11:14

Eli Cox

Enjoy your reactionary conservative political uprising.

October 11, 2016 - 11:20

Dylan Taylor

Hard to say how many disillusioned [REDACTED] supporters will remain firmly "Never Clinton", and the margin of inaccuracy for polling data for Trump/Clinton seems farcical.

My focus is on cleaning out leftism. The political consolidation that will occur under a Clinton victory would probably be devastating.

October 11, 2016 - 11:27

Wyatt Long

Seems accurate

October 11, 2016 - 11:31

Justin Hughes

I would prefer a political war where we are the underdog than the omnipotent hegemony where any opposition is only a simulation.

October 11, 2016 - 11:43

Lucas Martin

Look at Latin America if you want to see what happens when you let the worldwide fascist movement gain a foothold. Porky don't care, left or right doesn't matter to him as long as he can siphon money and blame the poor.

October 11, 2016 - 11:45

Ryder Roberts

Speaking of which, how's that working out for the FARC?

October 11, 2016 - 11:45

Levi Barnes

...

October 11, 2016 - 11:49

Ayden Johnson

Do we really have a CTR shill in here again?

October 11, 2016 - 11:57

Evan Lopez

You're exaggerating with each of those words. Government won't change that much because of Trump, that's not the point of preferring Trump. It will polarize and radicalize society itself. Attacks on Trump rallies are a good indication, as well as the massive support of S█████' politics. I know it's all still very liberal, but at least there's a potential for some militancy to develop among lefties, to end this pacifist conformism. Just to be clear, I'm not having high hopes here, but more of status quo is more depressing.

Yes, I would actually like an organization like FARC in America rather than to be safe and secure in the end-of-history West where I call myself a "communist" because of what books I buy and which websites I visit.

October 11, 2016 - 12:07

Bentley Taylor

Not talking about the military coups. Talking about the elected officials, PSDB, Macri, etc.

October 11, 2016 - 12:12

Ian Rodriguez

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/2930

October 11, 2016 - 12:30

Jackson Ortiz

>From: [email protected]/* */
>To: [email protected]/* */
Imagine being this economically lonely.

October 11, 2016 - 12:32

Jayden Watson

youtube.com/watch?v=EMzSh4lc35I
This has 50k+ views compared to under 10k Dore or others get. The left has to get better at propaganda - what irony when the establishment propaganda is blamed precisely on the left.

October 11, 2016 - 12:34

Luke Long

The quoted statement was by Jon Favreau, Obama's former speechwriter.

Can the board owner word please filter unemployed/underemployed/working class to "economically anxious" ?

October 11, 2016 - 12:38

Andrew Kelly

good god I can't stand that guy's voice

October 11, 2016 - 12:41

Angel Brooks

>Her most important job right now is to inspire people, and generate enthusiasm. And she will not succeed by playing the pragmatist to B████'s idealist. No young person - no any person - who isn't the most committed voter will head out to the polls or knock on doors for someone who tells them that they should have more realistic expectations for what politics can achieve (even though they should!).

not getting fucked by your government is an "unrealistic expectation."

>People are of course economically anxious, and B████ is tapping into that > very well. But that's only half the equation. They're also being told to blame other groups for all their problems - blacks, gays, immigrants, Muslims, women, political correctness, etc. Fighting that intolerance and divisiveness is just as important as fighting inequality - arguably more so in this election because Trump has made it the defining issue. And she is way better equipped and qualified to make that argument than B████ is. That's true because she's a woman.

wew

>Hillary can pick up the mantle here in a very inspiring way. She just has to tweak it and be careful that it doesn't sound like she's listing off interest groups - here's my black speech, here's my Latino policy, here's my woman's event, etc. She needs to combine her policies with her record with a vision of the country and the world where we're stronger together than we are divided against each other. That's different than "stronger together than we are on our own," which would be more of a B████/Obama '12 message that's all about right-wing economics.

WEW

October 11, 2016 - 12:49

Ian Robinson

Are they implying B.ernie supporters are racist homophobes?
Are they this out of touch

October 11, 2016 - 12:52

Aaron Murphy

brb bottling molotovs

October 11, 2016 - 13:02

Jordan Williams

how long until the republicans implode or hillary gets leaked to death

October 11, 2016 - 14:48

Joseph Lopez

if it was going to happen it wouldve by now

October 11, 2016 - 14:55

Joshua Lewis

Republicans as a party are far from imploding. It's the Democrats that have been on the ropes as a party, they haven't been doing this badly since the late 19th-early 20th century.

Trump is going to lose because reasons. Whoever runs in 2020 will wipe the floor with the Dems, because HRC is going to be the worst president presiding over a Great Depression.

October 11, 2016 - 15:00

Logan Hernandez

I reckon Trump will win, but I agree with your latter point.

As a thought exercise, let's examine what a Hilary Presidency would look like:

1. 8 supreme court justices
2. GOP Congress stalling every budget and forcing two government shutdowns in 2017 and 2019
3. No TPP, No TTIP
4. Chinese and EU financial crises, both of which will cause a domestic US recession. Congress will say No to all bailouts
5. Chinese troops in the Phillipines (a thing the Pentagon truly does not want)
6. Israel being cucked hard and forced to stand down once Iran obtains a nuclear weapon
7. Saudi Arabian civil war, and Baghdad falling to ISIS (Congress will say No to any intervention) causing millions more migrants to flood into europe
8. EU migrant crisis getting much worse, likely requiring US assistance, which Congress will say No to
9. Given the leaks, probably Impeachment proceedings (though a Conviction is unlikely)
10. Minnesota, Ohio, and Pennsylvania becoming Right-To-Work states, effectively locking in a GOP Supermajority

The Democrats would be completely nuked, especially as 2020 is a Census year so the GOP would Gerrymander themselves into a permanent position of power.

October 11, 2016 - 16:49

Brandon Diaz

Working class should be filtered to proletariat TBH.

TPP may depend on Obongo unfortunately. Also Hillary was for it before.

October 11, 2016 - 17:03

Adam Powell

Iran won't get nukes. If they did, they're not going to advertise their nuclear capability, because that's the quickest way to get sanctioned/invaded. They're going to play it the way Israel does, an open secret.

TPP I think will be forced through Congress. Too many people on both sides of the aisle want it, but they have to keep their mouths shut this election year.

The rest seems to check out. There is no way GOP loses the house. Dems might retake the Senate so Garland will be approved (a corporatist nanny-stater). The TPP and SC will kick the right into high gear and Hillary's warmongering corporatist line will fuck over 90% of the country, leading to an exodus from the Democrats.

It's funny reading shit on r/politics, these people have their heads in the sand and think the GOP is going anywhere. They're so out of touch with how fascist this country has become.

October 11, 2016 - 17:07

Benjamin Foster

Under Hillary? youtube.com/watch?v=HTBdFccqDns

October 11, 2016 - 17:09

Lucas King

Oh, how I will love to see all these "progressive" and "critical" shillary newspapers like the guardian forced to finally "correct the record" - their own this time.

October 11, 2016 - 17:33

Jose Kelly

Won't work. Most Americans do not trust the TV media and people are online anyway. Of the people who still watch TV, most of them are crusty old people who watch Fox and will be voting straight -R tickets. The old media has completely lost it's touch, their constant 24/7 barrage on Trump at best makes normal people completely numb to the election and at worst makes them question the media's bias overall.

See Wisconsin and Michegan, formerly blue states that are red due to free trade causing all their jobs to move away. This is how Trump will win. Hilary's strategy at this point is to hope to god that blacks in Pittsburgh and Philadelphia turnout (they won't) and that there's enough union members left in Ohio. Given how much most people don't like her (remember how people laughed at her during the debate after Trump's "cause you'd be in jail" zinger?) she is fighting an uphill battle.

October 11, 2016 - 17:35

Parker Wilson

She's a fucking liar.

jpost.com/Opinion/Twilight-of-American-Jewry-467862

tl;dr her cabinet and staff is full of Palestine supporters. Even if they are kept at bay, Obama and the Senate have already made the decision with the Iran Deal (which is how Iran will get a nuke in the first place). Israel won't be given a green light to bomb Iran.

October 11, 2016 - 17:37

Carter Cox

Remember the Iran Deal? They're going to get a nuclear weapon. And the TPP won't get forced through if only because Congress wants to deny any victory to Obama or Hilary.

October 11, 2016 - 17:39

Jaxon Jackson

Unlikely, but plausible I guess.
Very unlikely (remember this kind of stuff usually gets recycled under another name if it attracts too much popular awareness), but it could happen.
What? Why would this happen!? Even Korean War II is likelier than this.
Israel is the perfect scapegoat for the mideast's problems. We're never, ever cutting them loose.
Yeah, already sort of underway, it could easily turn out that bad.
Something's definitely going to happen.

October 11, 2016 - 17:45

Jayden Barnes

That article is a blatant Zionist propaganda, come on… It's also stupid:

October 11, 2016 - 17:50

Cameron Fisher

Michigan isn't all that red, although the Republican areas are ultra-Republican and racist as fuck. The problem at the state level is that the state Democratic Party is utterly corrupt and incompetent. The first time we got shafted with Snyder, he was up against the corrupt Lansing mayor no one likes, the second time he was up against a noname state congressman and had incumbency.

Michigan has really been shit upon by the two party system, yet the idea of voting or acting outside of the system is utterly alien to people here.

I think in the end Michigan will go for Clinton. The state is gerrymandered so Republicans dominate the house seats, but as a whole the state has a lot of Dem voters in the urban centers.

October 11, 2016 - 17:50

Hunter Powell

He's going to get BTFO

Feel free to screencap this

October 11, 2016 - 17:54

Anthony Richardson

Israel's cosying up to Russia now, will be interesting to see whether the Saudi govt get prosecuted for their role in 9/11 and what the fall out will be.
The geopolitics there is mind bendingly complex.

October 11, 2016 - 17:58

Daniel Ramirez

How would that happen?

October 11, 2016 - 18:00

Isaac Parker

guy who picked joe lieberman as his vp and couldn't even win his home state is here to give you stupid millennials advice on politics

October 11, 2016 - 18:26

Jaxon Diaz

youtube.com/watch?v=-xyxtC7ExAE
CNN actually mentioned wikileaks.

October 11, 2016 - 19:01

Easton Campbell

I think he could still win. Wikileaks is making good on their promise of leaks that will change the election now.

Plus remember Republicans cheat and suppress voters like crazy (and Dems let them) every close race always goes to Republicans because of this.

October 11, 2016 - 19:18

Grayson Cooper

top kek:

youtube.com/watch?v=HTP1dDB7jnE
Trump Edited Roast Jokes To Look Richer

October 11, 2016 - 21:01

Tyler Morgan

Americans are aware that most advanced nations require voter ID when voting in national elections, right?

As a non-American its fascinating that your Left seems to think showing a driver's license or passport is part of some secret conspiracy to stop [disadvantaged group] from voting

October 11, 2016 - 21:16

Landon Harris

Oh, hon…

October 11, 2016 - 21:21

Landon King

Rebel, is that you?

October 11, 2016 - 21:27

Jack James

Fuck you bitch

October 11, 2016 - 21:28

Nathan Walker

Yeah. It's his own retarded fault he lost the election, but he still blames Nader lol.

October 11, 2016 - 21:29

Anthony Brooks

I really don't foresee TPP being stopped. Everyone in "the establishment" is lying about being against it. Plus, the U.S. Had put way too much pressure on Asian diplomacy to kill it.

October 11, 2016 - 21:34

Robert Bailey

The surveys that show media trust is at an all time low as a result of this election show that it's actually the republicans who have almost no faith in it. They're dragging the average down from the extremely low point of 15 percent or something. The Indy line also dropped pretty far but democrats trust in the media has unsurprisingly held steady.

October 11, 2016 - 21:37

Julian Cox

99% it's him

October 11, 2016 - 21:37

Jeremiah Cook

… Who?

October 11, 2016 - 21:39

Andrew Edwards

That they actually believe the shit their saying is kind of disconcerting.

October 11, 2016 - 21:42

Jack Moore

Jill Stein on C-SPAN tonight
youtube.com/watch?v=0j5owObX-Po

Gary Johnson too:
youtube.com/watch?v=xbWvYHVniLQ

Highlight: Richard D. Wolff among Stein's picks for secretary of treasury and economic advisers.

October 11, 2016 - 21:42

Bentley Cruz

This. As the other user said I think it'll just be repackaged under a different name and forced through

October 11, 2016 - 21:46

Kevin Allen

Florida votes matters so much that Gore wouldn't stand up for them during the congressional hearing over the targeted, disenfranchised black people who were removed from the voter rolls. Votes that would probably have made him win if he had.

October 11, 2016 - 21:51

Justin Wood

And Wikileaks will be releasing new stuff constantly. It will be building up its audience, not because of new content, but precisely because it doesn't get reported in the MSM and will therefore slowly but steadily spread like a spicy rumor.
While any new scandal from Trump will seem meaningless since they have already ran his verbal stupidity into the ground with this pussy thing by obsessing over it 24/7.

October 11, 2016 - 22:10

Luke Sullivan

Show me one single RT segment about Israel that isn't dumping on them like a garbage truck.

Even if Saudi Arabia completely dissolved in civil war and its royalty evaporated in diaspora, we'd never rat them out. Remember that the US elite have been in hip deep with them for the better part of a century, and any involvement with 9/11 at the highest levels of Saudi government probably goes just as high up our ranks, given how heavily infiltrated the Saudis are by our humint.

Actually, remember that as VP, Gore was also president of the senate. As such, he personally oversaw the dismissal of every attempt by senators to challenge the actions or jurisdiction of the supreme court toward the election.

October 11, 2016 - 22:40

Nathaniel Brown

You're wildly ignorant of US history. It maybe a trivial thing to get an ID in your country but in the US for many poor people it it not.

They used to have poll taxes and reading tests as late as the 1960's to prevent people poor blacks from voting. They purposely picked a licence knowing full well many American don't have one and would have trouble getting one.

October 11, 2016 - 22:56

Ian Brooks

Also as soon as these voter ID laws came up, Republican-controlled Secretaries of State in the states created new barriers to obtaining photo ID, and of course they're going to target a black for harassment if they can get away with it.

October 11, 2016 - 22:59

Isaac Rivera

It takes at least a lick of sense to rig an election.

October 11, 2016 - 22:59

Christian Hill

Jesus Christ Gore is old. They broke him out of the old folk's home to use as a prop.

Interesting to see them "cover" it. I wonder if it's just online or they did it on television.

People in the comments are talking about Wikileaks showing a link between CNN & Hillary's campaign, do they mean the #DNCleaks or is there new further info from these new leaks? I just woke up. Time to look around.

October 11, 2016 - 23:27

Juan Rodriguez

I'm really interested in this. I was wondering the same. Did they jump the gun because they got nervous about Wikileaks? Or do they have even more "skeletons" to hype up? Obviously they're not skeletons, though, we all know the guy's history since the 80s. Which is why I was so surprised people seemed so "shocked" over it now. Stupid voters & media.

October 11, 2016 - 23:43

Hunter Jenkins

I would take a glance on twitter, people are going crazy digging through these emails. Emma(?) and Jordan from TYT Politics also did summaries of important ones on youtube, I think there was something about MSNBC as well.

October 11, 2016 - 23:47

Ryder Gomez

The issue isn't the IDs themselves, it's that poor & old people either can't afford them or have access to getting them. They make it so hard, besides making them expensive, that you need all sorts of other accompanying paperwork as well.

October 11, 2016 - 23:48

Lucas Stewart

...

October 11, 2016 - 23:48

Carter Watson

Sometimes you also have to drive a really long way to get to a place where you can get them because they're closing these places down. It's fucked.

October 11, 2016 - 23:50

Bentley Foster

youtube.com/watch?v=3uj0P0sD22M
heh

October 12, 2016 - 00:04

Elijah Howard

True. In 2014(senate election) I didn't vote because I'd recently moved, and would've had to walk miles to vote at the specific voting place.

I lived in KY; our public transportation is beyond shit. I was also suffering from a medical condition, which made doing anything harder. Fact remains it's made much harder than it ought to be.

October 12, 2016 - 00:10

Joseph Campbell

This is just a RIGHT WING CONSPIRACY from Russian hackers and it holds no weight!

It was a transcript from AFTER the interview!

Can't you see the truth Berni-bros? This is all just a diversion to stop you from supporting the true progressive candidate that has your interests in mind.

#I'mWithHer

October 12, 2016 - 00:11

Caleb Long

It's also funny that by accusing Russian hackers, they're confirming the accuracy of the leaks, lmao

October 12, 2016 - 00:14

Christopher Rodriguez

Some perspective

twitter.com/ILoveBernie1/status/786052151911022593

October 12, 2016 - 00:22

Samuel Collins

Kurt Eichenwald who did a retarded but powerful twitter smear campaign about wikileaks being Russian Trump conspiracy got his ass trolled hard, apparently.

Here's the piece Glenn Greenwald published in the Intercept (worth a read):
theintercept.com/2016/10/11/in-the-democratic-echo-chamber-inconvenient-truths-are-recast-as-putin-plots/

October 12, 2016 - 00:28

Ayden Brown

This one pisses me off in particular

October 12, 2016 - 00:29

William Barnes

Did this really happen?

October 12, 2016 - 00:34

Julian Bailey

Tulsi isn't even that great, but this makes me pretty sympathetic to her. I wonder what it was about B████ that she liked so much. Just the foreign policy?

October 12, 2016 - 00:36

Juan Rogers

Tbh there was a lot to like about B████.. He's better on all fronts compared to Shillary.

She mentioned this specifically, often.

October 12, 2016 - 00:40

Cooper Roberts

It's "bizarre" that he literally just made up a bunch of lies and everyone ran with it and they put him on CNN to talk about it in the span of a single day.

October 12, 2016 - 00:47

Jack Barnes

Maybe.

Hey what have all those "women never lie about rape" people been saying about this? I just want to know what the Correct thing to think is so I don't step on any toes.

October 12, 2016 - 00:49

Thomas Ortiz

Interesting to see both military and propaganda aggression against Russia but on two completely separate fronts. Is it significant? Some people already talk about the new cold war or even WW3.

It can only be rapeception: they have been sexually blackmailed into accusing poor innocent Billy of rape.

October 12, 2016 - 00:55

Landon Mitchell

This is from the first Podesta leak, but WTF?
wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/1710#efmAVTAbTBPMBZ9

October 12, 2016 - 01:10

Sebastian Sanders

It's a satire from an article B████ wrote about gender issues, they planned to take it out of context.

October 12, 2016 - 01:19

Josiah Jenkins

I must have missed this meme during the primaries, but it's funny so I thought I'd post

October 12, 2016 - 01:20

Charles Morris

not sure if this belongs here but Holla Forums found a custom Shillery logo maker

hillaryavatar.com/#

h/f comrades

October 12, 2016 - 01:31

Ethan Morales

Speaking as a burger who's lived along the left coast all my life, I've never been able to muster much more sympathy for the plight of suppressed voters than I have for people who live in inappropriately designed structures on flood/tornado/etc land. Look at the map, and you'll notice the less uncivilized parts of the country (i.e.: the overwhelming majority of it) allow you to just check a box on your voter registration form and get a ballot (with prepaid return envelope and handy informational material!) sent to your address of choice free of charge.

I hear about endlessly about a wasteful tug of war over the operating details of polling stations, but I never hear anyone talk about the obvious alternative for more intelligent voters.

I simply got my ballot forwarded to my new address with the rest of my mail.

October 12, 2016 - 01:38

Noah Foster

The exact same thing their spiritual predecessors did in the '90s, when news of Clinton's shenanigans first came out - nothing. Their outrage is only directed at their political foes; all the feminists that shrieked about the sexual harassment of Anita Hill by Clarence Thomas were unsurprisingly indifferent to claims that Bill was dicking bimbos

October 12, 2016 - 01:38

Jason Perez

I loved that one email that called Saudi Arabia and Qatar out specifically as the largest exporters of terrorism/terrorist ideology.

They know, and they just don't care.

Sploosh

Also, this:
zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-11/house-judiciary-committee-calls-inspector-general-probe-fbi-special-treatment-clinto

Also, they keep calling it "pay to play deals," but isn't it really just graft?

October 12, 2016 - 01:39

David Adams

It's funny how the Democrats and their supporters are now in a total red scare mode, talking about patriotism and Russian infiltration, while the Republicans use the leaked emails to show us how the left has rigged the system to make Clinton win…

October 12, 2016 - 01:50

Parker Stewart

Most Americans are working 9-5, sometimes another job on the side & struggling, worrying more about not losing their homes or eating to keep up with the micro-details of voting methods. Seriously, fuck off. You should realize how lucky you are to live on the "left coast", and that's why you never had to bother learning about the extra hoops most Americans have to deal with. This is why I have more patience & sympathy for uneducated voters in the US, because I can recognize the struggle they go through.

Kys, you seem to be on the wrong board.

Well, that's convenient for you. As you can see by your own graphic, that's not even available in my state. Though I'm voting by mail now, since I'm overseas.

October 12, 2016 - 02:05

Mason Gray

reddit.com/r/TheRecordCorrected

Lmao, I just got a message from a moderator on this subreddit that I'm "an approved submitter to the subreddit" now. I guess someone noticed my angry posts or something..

Here's a screenshot of the record being corrected, using the exact same comments. I suspected they'd do it, because it's easier that way, but I'd never seen it for sure.

October 12, 2016 - 02:27

Colton Mitchell

Detroit is bankrupt, Ford is closing another factory. Of course the Democrats there are in disarray. And this year, it won't matter if they got the numbers because nobody will turn out. People, especially Detrioiters, can see that the situation they are in now is far worse than it was eight years ago. The city's credit rating is in the toilet and everything is falling apart, meanwhile even the remaining public sector unions are still unsure if their pensions will survive. This is why so many are moving out to other states.

At the end of it, people on the ground feel frustrated, almost betrayed, about what's happened to them. And they're not going to be turning out or voting Dem. Ann Arbor will remain Ann Arbor.

October 12, 2016 - 03:00

Isaac Adams

If everyone was issued a Passport at birth and automatically signed up to vote by mail this wouldn't be a problem.

October 12, 2016 - 03:02

Dominic Fisher

Congress will still say no, if Hilary is President. Get into the mind of a Teafag here: the President cannot win so that the narrative around them can be negative. It is pure obstructionism. That's not to defend Hilary (or even Obama), but Republicans are crafty.

October 12, 2016 - 03:04

David Ortiz

The left doesn't know how to handle it. They seriously, honestly, expected young liberals to eat this shit up and not spit it back in their faces. And then their whining over how we're being "petulant children" goes into infowars-tier russian conspiracy theories. And when they get trolled, they don't know how to understand how Internet "activism" (for the lack of a better word) works. They can't play the populist card, and are now backed into a corner. It's telling that they jump to bitching about russia.

I don't even know what to say, everything has been turned upside down and everyone is being stupid.

October 12, 2016 - 03:09

Michael Reyes

I don't want to vote for Hillary because she's a racist and fascist in a lot of ways.
Let's not talk about Trump.
Who should I vote for ?
Jill??

October 12, 2016 - 03:50

Oliver Price

- Jill needs 5% to get public funds, and it's important to show that these ideas are popular

- Trump seems to have far better foreign policy ideas (>>976309) than Clinton who will continue with more wars (Syria & Russia, possibly Iran even)

October 12, 2016 - 04:25

Mason Nguyen

I'll post it here, this is from leftist counterpunch:

Only Donald Trump Raises Five “Fundamental and Urgent” Foreign Policy Questions

counterpunch.org/2016/05/23/only-donald-trump-raises-five-fundamental-and-urgent-foreign-policy-questions-stephen-f-cohen-bemoans-msms-dismissal-of-trumps-queries/

October 12, 2016 - 04:28

Matthew Anderson

...

October 12, 2016 - 04:32

Ayden Davis

We haven't seen anything yet.

October 12, 2016 - 05:08

Nolan Price

Thank you.

October 12, 2016 - 05:32

Levi Johnson

What do you guys think the reaction will be when Trump wins the popular vote but the electoral college votes Hillary

October 12, 2016 - 05:41

Ryan Cook

youtube.com/watch?v=04PnV1IngGM

October 12, 2016 - 05:57

Gabriel Stewart

Congress will have carte blanche to investigate her and more or less destroy her Presidency. Not that they already don't, though.

October 12, 2016 - 06:10

Parker Nguyen

podesta part four!

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/786184297199702022

wlsearch.tk/

October 12, 2016 - 06:17

Levi Barnes

What do you think is their method of sorting these emails into separate releases?
They're not doing it by date, so it's probably by content. Is it thematic?
The first batch contained a lot of that useless CRT and news spam for example, while this 4th batch has a lot of emails from the barackobama.com domain.

October 12, 2016 - 06:48

Oliver Williams

mobile.twitter.com/BernieSanders

October 12, 2016 - 07:10

Jace Hughes

looks shopped.

October 12, 2016 - 07:12

Christopher Davis

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/4664#efmApkAty
But she didn't think about the possibility of a… STOCHASTIC TERMINATOR!

October 12, 2016 - 07:22

Ian Green

You're digging too deep. They're breaking it up so that the media can't ignore it (each dump gets 15 minutes of fame every few days) and so that people can sort through it all and find the juiciest bits. It's strategic, they have to walk a line between overloading dumps and being ignored and dumping too fast and oversaturating people (like the media has already done with everything about Trump)

October 12, 2016 - 07:34

Alexander Powell

I understand that. But they're not breaking it up arbitrarily either, as I've pointed out.

October 12, 2016 - 07:38

Sebastian Wilson

As they've said in this twit here it's an "impact maximizing publishing algorithm".

October 12, 2016 - 07:42

Nolan Thomas

It's our Tim.

October 12, 2016 - 07:42

Connor Russell

Hillay needs to stay away from the formaldehyde.

October 12, 2016 - 08:03

Alexander Morgan

Trump supporter says "we are ready for a revolution if Hillary gets in". Pence is anxious, says "don't say that":
twitter.com/NBCNightlyNews/status/785950864200441856
Almost seems like they can't control their own voters anymore.

I'm not an American, so I don't know how standard that is over there.

October 12, 2016 - 08:20

Elijah Baker

wew

I don't know how ready the general population is for any sort of armed uprising, but people are deeply, deeply unhappy, not just with this farce of an election, but with things in general.

In general, the reaction to Hillary among everyone besides her true believers is that she's positively foul to most people. She's untrustworthy and devious and people seem to believe that whatever she's doing, she's doing for Hillary. Trump seems to be getting begrudging support, but no one particularly likes him, either.

I think it would take more than just Hillary winning for there to be an armed incident, but not much more. If she wins because of some technicality, or contests the results, or it comes out that she cheated in any way, I can see a lot of people being very upset.

October 12, 2016 - 08:28

Samuel Perry

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/5953
"Off the Record" dinner

reddit.com/r/DNCleaks/comments/573ufz/release_the_podesta_emails_part_4_1193_new_emails/

Goals are to:

"Give reporters their first thoughts from team HRC"

"Framing the HRC message and framing the race"

Our free and open press:

REPORTER RSVPs

YES

ABC - Cecilia Vega
ABC - David Muir
ABC – Diane Sawyer
ABC – George Stephanoplous
ABC - Jon Karl
Bloomberg – John Heillman
Bloomberg – Mark Halperin
CBS - Norah O'Donnell
CBS - Vicki Gordon
CNN - Brianna Keilar
CNN - David Chalian
CNN – Gloria Borger
CNN - Jeff Zeleny
CNN – John Berman
CNN – Kate Bouldan
CNN - Mark Preston
CNN - Sam Feist
Daily Beast - Jackie Kucinich
GPG - Mike Feldman
Huffington Post - Whitney Snyder
MORE - Betsy Fisher Martin
MSNBC – Alex Wagner
MSNBC - Beth Fouhy
MSNBC - Phil Griffin
MSNBC – Rachel Maddow (TBD)
MSNBC – Rachel Racusen
NBC – Savannah Gutherie
New Yorker - Ryan Liza
NYT – Amy Chozik
NYT - Gail Collins
NYT - Jonathan Martin
NYT – Maggie Haberman
PEOPLE - Sandra Sobieraj Westfall
POLITICO – Glenn Thrush
POLITICO - Mike Allen
VICE - Alyssa Mastramonoco
VOX - Jon Allen

:^)

October 12, 2016 - 08:33

Jordan Myers

You are like a little babby. All of these people have Irish ancestry.

October 12, 2016 - 09:08

Nicholas Butler

New York City election commissioner spilling some beans on voter and election fraud:

youtube.com/watch?v=jUDTcxIqqM0

October 12, 2016 - 09:11

Bentley Reyes

...

October 12, 2016 - 09:18

Levi Peterson

RELEASE: The Podesta Emails Part 5 (673 new emails)

They're going too fast, they should let people talk for a day between releases. People are going to get burned out browsing this shit constantly.

October 12, 2016 - 10:57

Leo Perez

Sounds staged as Hell. Veritas, the same people who brought you this: youtube.com/watch?v=fB37TCDcZBg

And they did the ACORN thing. Our voting is just beyond fucked up at this point. Voter suppression is more of a problem. The fact they bus people isn't anything new or illegal("Get out the vote"). What pisses me off is when they do it to get votes for _themselves_. When most poor neighborhood people need to get to the polls during primaries, etc, they don't give a shit. It's only during the general Presidential election that they do this shit.

People "dressing up in burkas" & voting as someone else isn't some problem we should be worried about. Give me a break.

October 12, 2016 - 11:06

Austin Campbell

Lol, forget my youtube editing.

And it's when they make this a partisan issue, i have a problem with. We should be worried about any vote, at any time.

October 12, 2016 - 11:07

Cameron Reyes

Warning to Hillary Clinton
wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/6900

This is a really good one.

October 12, 2016 - 11:33

William Brooks

What a mummy's boy.

October 12, 2016 - 11:36

Luke Phillips

What did they mean by this?
wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/5423

October 12, 2016 - 12:05

Lincoln Hall

just gonna leave this here…

October 12, 2016 - 12:08

Jaxon Sullivan

This is a very informative one to spread around.

October 12, 2016 - 12:25

Jackson Richardson

LET IT BE KNOWN

This is the email which destroyed Hilary's campaign and plausibly fucked Democrats out of the hispanic vote:

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/6293

tl;dr Podesta wanted to create a "catholic spring" to make the church more accepting of contraceptives. Right now, old catholics (ie grandparents) will now flip as soon as they hear it (and they will hear it, the catholic church does not like to be fucked with and this will be in every parish newsletter next week).

The larger question is: how deep does this rabbit hole go? Because if there's more to this (ie making the church accepting of gays or abortion) it'll cause hispanics to flip Republican.

October 12, 2016 - 12:31

Owen Nelson

source?

October 12, 2016 - 12:37

Juan James

I went to Holla Forums, apparently they hacked into Podesta's active(!) email account but they didn't archive the emails before they were deleted and locked out.
If that's true then they're so fucking retarded, god fucking damnit, that would have been a gold mine to see.

October 12, 2016 - 12:38

Joshua James

just saw it on 4pol. you now it's good when it's even deleted there

archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/92632944

October 12, 2016 - 12:42

Ryder Long

the average Holla Forums poster barely knows how to copy and paste text, nevertheless download emails or otherwise obtain a backup of them

October 12, 2016 - 12:42

Alexander Lopez

daily reminder that these leaks will only become relevant if the MSM reports on them ie never

October 12, 2016 - 12:42

Henry Kelly

You underestimate the power of the Internet and rumor. The leaks are very popular on twitter and knowledge of them won't just stay there.

October 12, 2016 - 12:47

Nathan Parker

NPR has already reported on them, their daytime shows and 15 minute "update" segments tend to be somewhat unbiased (for example, they brought up how Hilary's comments on a "hemispheric region with open borders and open trade" directly contracts her current TPP positions) and Fox News (America's #1 news channel, by viewership) is of course tearing her a new asshole. ABC and CBS are mostly neutral in their reporting. It is getting out there, and will be spammed in every local catholic newsletter across America next week.

The only people that aren't reporting on it is CNN and NBC.

October 12, 2016 - 12:52

Luke Diaz

habbening

October 12, 2016 - 13:00

Nathan Flores

I hope you're right, hopefully they will be leaked to the public eventually. Would be far more interesting to see them right now though, when we're right in that moment and can feel what her campaign is going through.

October 12, 2016 - 13:01

Hudson Torres

god fucking damn, the idiots

October 12, 2016 - 13:04

Ethan Reyes

Patience boys.

October 12, 2016 - 13:06

Angel Barnes

got some links?

October 12, 2016 - 13:10

Sebastian Brown

Aren't Hispanics pretty apathetic about social conservatism?

Republicans have been trying to use muh abortions muh culture wars to get "natural conservative" Hispanics over for years, I really don't see how this would change anything

October 12, 2016 - 13:16

William Nguyen

Hope you lads have got your war faces on.

October 12, 2016 - 13:31

Aaron Collins

this is what boomers seriously think millenials look like

October 12, 2016 - 13:35

Jaxon Butler

...

October 12, 2016 - 13:38

Alexander Mitchell

It goes both ways. For example, legal hispanic immigrants tend to vote Republican as they're more middle class. This is especially true with Cubans. Those that came in illegally, or are descended from illegals, are hardcore catholic and won't tolerate this.

Because the Democrats, a "socialist" (in terms of perception) party, is attempting to affect the operations of the catholic church. This is how the mexican revolution/civil war started a century ago. Point being poorer hispanics have a much shorter tolerance for this and the Democrats moved across their red line.

That said, they aren't going to flip this election (but all other catholics will, which will lead to several upsets on election day) but if the Dems don't apologize and walk it back it'll burn them in every subsequent one.

October 12, 2016 - 13:40

Matthew Turner

...

October 12, 2016 - 13:41

Carson Smith

Also the irony needs to be noted here: the Democrats originally rose to power in the 1930s because they organized catholic voters. Now they're snubbing them to try and fit their own mold. A very vital bridge is burning right now and if Hilary is smart (I'm doubtful of this) she'll quickly apologize.

October 12, 2016 - 13:42

Nolan Fisher

dunno how much more kek I can take today.

October 12, 2016 - 13:42

Landon Moore

...

October 12, 2016 - 13:43

Gabriel Reed

We're talking about today's possible hack into Podesta, not Wikileaks' releases of old hacks.
Podesta5 has been out for a while:

October 12, 2016 - 13:47

Jonathan Sullivan

turn it on, pic related is just reading the emails verbaitim right now

foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/11/7-biggest-revelations-from-wikileaks-release-podesta-emails.html

October 12, 2016 - 13:48

Angel Nguyen

tunein.com/radio/The-Sean-Hannity-Show-p20631/

October 12, 2016 - 13:51

John Turner

streamfare.com/foxnews.html
thx

October 12, 2016 - 13:54

Blake Gray

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/7011
> *For my question*, it's basically some variation of [not quite phrased right yet]: I know when I talk to my friends who are attorneys we are all struggling with what happened to the emails and aren't satisfied with answers to date. While we all know of the occasional use of personal email addresses for business, none of my friends circle can understand how it was viewed as ok/secure/appropriate to use a private server for secure documents AND why further Hillary took it upon herself to review them and delete documents without providing anyone outside her circle a chance to weigh in. It smacks of acting above the law and it smacks of the type of thing I've either gotten discovery sanctions for, fired people for, etc.

> 2) someone wants to ask a very specific question about updating export control laws - and why they've haven't been updated since (??) as they prevent american businesses selling abroad (she's GC of a consumer drone company). Going to the 20,000 foot level, you'lll do well to talk about needing to ensure regulation that's designed to protect consumers - yet not so much that it prevents innovation, like what happens here in SV, which has been the economic bright spot of our economy. The goverenment of the 21st century will need to be more nimble, and quicker to respond to rapidly changing busiensses, yet also ensure that it's not rash, and it regulates for not just for today but the future. too

( •ω• )σ literally company for "consumer drones"

October 12, 2016 - 14:15

Jonathan Brown

this
also TYT get more viewers than CNN for fucks sake

October 12, 2016 - 15:05

Aiden Sanders

But is there much of a difference between TYT and CNN? Dore and Jordan are on their own separate channels, while Cenk shills for Hillary.

October 12, 2016 - 15:21

Jace Johnson

It's happening again…

At this point it's either a honeypot or John-boy is in for an accident.

October 12, 2016 - 15:34

Xavier Stewart

What was his password? 12345?

October 12, 2016 - 15:39

Isaac Parker

God I hope Hillary saw that.

October 12, 2016 - 15:42

Cooper Roberts

It seems he has used the same pass for about everything.

October 12, 2016 - 15:44

Jason Hughes

oh my god

October 12, 2016 - 15:44

Jacob Baker

see

October 12, 2016 - 15:45

Cooper Garcia

He's an even bigger asshole than I thought.

October 12, 2016 - 15:45

Zachary Collins

His Apple one was runner4567

October 12, 2016 - 15:45

Tyler Moore

100% it'll turn up in the next leak

October 12, 2016 - 15:46

Alexander Wood

How can they be so fucking stupid to not immediately change all their email addresses, passwords, even purge and abandon all old accounts? They're running an American presidential campaign for fucks sake.

This is simply laughable. I wonder how much is this the norm for every government across the globe.

October 12, 2016 - 15:49

Colton Moore

He used that one for multiple accounts as well, I remember seeing run** password in some unrelated Wikileaks email.

October 12, 2016 - 15:51

Ethan Parker

What'd you reckon B████'s password is?

October 12, 2016 - 15:51

Gabriel Fisher

Press f to pay respect

October 12, 2016 - 15:53

Mason Morgan

enterleft

October 12, 2016 - 15:53

Julian Brooks

F

As in fucking lel

October 12, 2016 - 15:58

Jason Walker

Stupid idea to brag about this in public. If they're capable of massive CRT operations than they probably have someone monitoring there as well, especially after the hacks and leaks.

Someone should just grab all their current internal stuff and upload it somewhere, then people can mess with them all they want.

October 12, 2016 - 16:00

Henry Campbell

It's gone beyond.

October 12, 2016 - 16:01

Angel Williams

We're going to end up some sort of frighteningly farcical version of a fascist or Nazi state, aren't we?

October 12, 2016 - 16:09

Robert Kelly

One of the last posts before thread was kill.

October 12, 2016 - 16:13

Daniel Rivera

...

October 12, 2016 - 16:18

Jace Long

Just deleted this to give user a head start

October 12, 2016 - 16:30

Henry Bailey

"People who use their own names as passwords deserve to be hacked."

October 12, 2016 - 16:33

Kevin Thompson

This is a cyclical thread fam.

October 12, 2016 - 16:34

Elijah James

Kill yourself.
Vargas, Peron and other 29' populists were the closest South America had to Fascists, stop making words devoid of their meaning.
What board am I browsing again that could see any hint of leftism in mainstream US politics or politicians?

October 12, 2016 - 16:37

Nolan Lewis

Will these leaks actually effect Hillary at all?

October 12, 2016 - 21:53

Levi Thompson

Hillary is a neoliberal to the core. She's going to do nothing but neoliberalism if elected, and is already trying to play off the leaks as irrelevant.

They won't affect votes, because the few undecided voters left are too low-info to really understand why the leaks are important. What the leaks do is expose the incompetence of the political class to the 50%+ of the country that doesn't vote or votes third-party, and undermine faith in the democratic system; normally the political elites are considered too strong, but the leaked email and how easy it was to execute show that they really are just incompetents propped up by the police state. We already know for years that the GOP is a party of monsters, and most know in their hearts that the Democrats are corrupt, but here is tangible proof of what they think about us behind closed doors, and how these people aren't as bright as they think they are.

October 12, 2016 - 22:09

Carson Cruz

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youtu.be/jD2NJz4kzdc

October 12, 2016 - 22:09

Jaxon Scott

her inability to just do a national interview and communicate genuine feelings of remorse and regret is now, I fear, becoming a character problem (more so than honesty).
wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/6971#efmABRAD7AD8AFY

October 12, 2016 - 23:51

Easton Watson

if someone had told me this is what 2016 would be like I wouldn't have believed them

October 13, 2016 - 00:06

James Johnson

archive link here

imgur.com/a/KPJ0s

archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/92657421

October 13, 2016 - 00:56

Josiah Garcia

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/5512

They can't even write the phrase "N million" without the dollar sign.

October 13, 2016 - 01:17

John Cruz

I assume the reason they did that is because Clinton has taken $35m in Wall Street money.

October 13, 2016 - 01:19

Jaxson Richardson

I think it will. There might not be an official reaction, but every salvo of emails is so richly laden with dirty laundry that there's no way there won't be some kind of response.

It's also taking time to filter out to the general population, since in general the media isn't talking about it at all.

In one of the emails I think, one of the staffers talks about how Hillary's team are all suspecting one another as the leak since some of the things being revealed can only come from a few sources from the inner circle. She also mentions that what's been spilled so far has been "the most banal 10%" of things they discussed.

And with as shrill as the CTR response has been, much less the absolute lack of a response from the MSM, I'm fairly certain that if this isn't already damaging her already poor estimation by the general population, then there's something among the emails that they're really afraid of people seeing, or at least they think there is.

And even aside from that, all the interpersonal backbiting, ridicule, finger pointing, and name-naming going on in these emails is sure to hurt some asses among the Democrat "elite." They're a bunch of arrogant narcissists and sociopaths. Knives will find backs over this, figuratively (and probably literally) speaking.

October 13, 2016 - 01:29

Bentley Adams

Holla Forums's man on the inside.

October 13, 2016 - 01:36

Chase Bailey

It's not censored now as far as I can tell, thank God. I just visited both regularly(as a subscriber) & in incognito mode.

October 13, 2016 - 01:43

Sebastian Bailey

Podesta files: Top 10 revelations from leaked Clinton campaign e-mails

rt.com/usa/362590-podesta-emails-wikileaks-clinton/

1. Attitude towards ‘everyday Americans’
2. ‘Cultivating’ certain media
3. Clinton knew ISIS received support from US allies Saudi Arabia and Qatar
4. Most Clinton Foundation donors are not American
5. New DNC chair was the ‘mole’ leaking B████ ██████ doc
6. Policy-making and ‘backroom deals’ should be concealed from voters
7. 'Can't possibly' vet all refugees
8. No-fly zone over Syria impractical due to ‘sophisticated anti-aircraft systems’
9. Chelsea Clinton ‘acted like a spoiled brat’
10. ‘Extraterrestrials, the highest form of intelligence working directly with God’
(:D)

October 13, 2016 - 01:49

Daniel Rogers

Can someone give me a source on why you shouldn't vote for trump so I can get my friend to shut the fuck up with his trump shilling? I already know hillary is going to win and bourge democracy is pointless but I need something to convenience this idiot.

October 13, 2016 - 01:55

Brandon Ortiz

ftfy

October 13, 2016 - 01:56

Nolan Green

If s/he can't grasp that Trump is a Clinton puppet by now I don't know what to say. I point people to the Jeff Epstein scandal to show how intertwined the Clintons and Trump are.

Also Chelsea and Ivanka are BFFs.

October 13, 2016 - 01:57

Joshua Turner

Give them this: counterpunch.org/2016/05/23/only-donald-trump-raises-five-fundamental-and-urgent-foreign-policy-questions-stephen-f-cohen-bemoans-msms-dismissal-of-trumps-queries/

October 13, 2016 - 02:00

Gabriel Thomas

Nigga have you been paying attention? Clinton wants a war.

t. Jill Stein

October 13, 2016 - 02:01

Justin Anderson

They're both 1%ers. Trump has said the minimum wage should actually be lowered. He's a fucking con artist who actually blamed his past failings on his then recently deceased business partners. He's a silver-spoon having POS. You can't trust a word he says.

Vote third party to help them become viable for future elections & exposure. We're going to lose either way with Clinton or Trump.

Not to mention he does seem like a plant. Wikileaks showed Clinton wanted to elevate Trump(among Cruz & Carson, easily beatable), but Hillary started the birther movement & Trump ran with it. He's also donated to her campaigns & foundations heavily in the past. They're too intertwined & elitist scum.

October 13, 2016 - 02:05

Brandon Kelly

The simplest reason not to expect anything from Trump is that he's a flipflopping waffly weasel who will say anything, and probably do nothing:
politico.com/magazine/story/2016/05/donald-trump-2016-contradictions-213869

I'm still voting for him, and encourage others to do so, because a Clinton presidency right now would be catastrophic for the future of American politics, due to the unprecedented bi"partisan" porky alignment behind her, whereas the Trump phenomenon (not necessarily even Trump himself) is the biggest monkey wrench thrown into the gears of the establishment machine in decades.

October 13, 2016 - 02:17

Connor Perez

Do you think there is still something in these emails that we don't already know or suspect? We didn't learn anything new here, we only got the details and proofs.

I hope there's something more special coming in the next releases.

October 13, 2016 - 02:18

Oliver Diaz

John Podesta sent this email to Steve Elmendorf 3 days before Scalia died at the Cibolo Creek Ranch (which has a large outdoor pool).

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/6008

Dictionary for "Wet Works": Wetwork is a euphemism for murder or assassination, alluding to spilling blood.

October 13, 2016 - 02:18

Kayden Russell

there you go

October 13, 2016 - 02:19

Ryder Ramirez

...

October 13, 2016 - 02:21

Nicholas Kelly

...

October 13, 2016 - 02:21

Brody Lopez

Who the fuck is Steve Elmendorf?

October 13, 2016 - 02:23

Brandon Diaz

What? There's plenty we didn't know in these leaks.

One that we didn't know: nypost.com/2016/10/09/bin-laden-secrets-revealed-in-latest-clinton-e-mail-leak/
Hillary revealed details of the Bin Laden raid to fucking Canadian bankers/business owners. Why she thought this was pertinent info to share with them, I don't know. Maybe she wanted to give them their money's worth & make them feel special.

Here's some good ones, too.
reddit.com/r/HillaryForPrison/comments/5730ed/highlights_from_the_wikileaks_podesta_emails/

October 13, 2016 - 02:25

Dominic Cox

Leaks don't have to be revelatory to make a big splash. For instance, remember that the diplomatic cable leaks that Manning revealed contained pretty mundane stuff about most of those governments, yet it was enough to ignite the entire MENA region into revolution.

October 13, 2016 - 02:26

Cooper Diaz

At first i was like, "Nah, they wouldn't waste time as he was going to die soon, anyway".

Then I realized that this is one of their biggest talking points, muh Supreme Court vacancy.

But still, I doubt it.

October 13, 2016 - 02:26

Chase Evans

What the fuck is wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Elmendorf

October 13, 2016 - 02:27

Jonathan Bailey

And even if it's info we "already knew or suspected", it's much different & more helpful to have actual proof, so they cannot deny it, anymore.

October 13, 2016 - 02:27

Nicholas Barnes

Thanks for the info, sucker

October 13, 2016 - 02:30

Easton Lewis

If Trump wins the big one he doesn't have to care about accountability. He'll fall in line with whatever his Republican handlers tell him to do.

Aside from that, when you get down to it what Trump wants to do are things that he simply cannot, or things that are terrible and in porky's interest.

October 13, 2016 - 02:31

Camden Stewart

you are… welcome?

October 13, 2016 - 02:31

Ryder Davis

Look, I'm not saying it's not powerful and interesting, of course it is, this is fucking huge and will hurt them a lot.

I'm just wondering if there's possibly anything that will be an actual mind fuck, that will show something we never even thought about.

October 13, 2016 - 02:32

Samuel Bennett

Rolling international coverage, calls to stand down, sexist pig, literally Hitler

But Trump said grab her by the pussy

Dunno how much more proof people here need that Clinton is the establishment choice.

October 13, 2016 - 02:32

Dominic Gray

Leaks don't have to be revelatory to make a big splash. For instance, remember that the diplomatic cable leaks that Manning revealed contained pretty mundane stuff about most of those governments, yet it was enough to ignite the entire MENA region into revolution.

October 13, 2016 - 02:33

Isaiah Thomas

I really appreciate it >:D

October 13, 2016 - 02:34

Christian Collins

Sure. Even though a couple have mind fucked me, including the Bin Laden story, I'm waiting on the big one we can show normies. Although CNN actually reported on the sharing of info between the State Deot./DOJ & the Clinton Foundation. That's pretty good & normies should care about it.

Isn't it scary that Clinton is so corrupt that it will take some huge mind fuck to get normies to understand? Very sad.

October 13, 2016 - 02:35

Henry Ramirez

Porkies just think that Hillary is more reliable & a puppet. The only difference is Clinton has more establishment backing than Trump. They're both still 1% POS, who care nothing for Americans/the working man.

October 13, 2016 - 02:36

Xavier Myers

We see the post(3rd time it has posted). Refresh the page & that should help.

And political/business establishment are one in the same in the US(as in many other countries, too), fyi. So making a distinction really isn't too necessary.

October 13, 2016 - 02:38

Christopher Nguyen

It's more the case that we have become so cynical (at this point justifiably so) that a lot of what's coming out we already thought was taking place. That's why it's hard to even imagine what unexpected things could be hiding in these emails.

October 13, 2016 - 02:39

Jason Hall

What kind of gymnastics is this? Clinton is objectively the 'establishment' choice. This same establishment that wants war with Syria and Iran to help kick the can of 20tn debt further down the road.

Even if you hate everything Trump stands for, he is the moral choice.

October 13, 2016 - 02:42

Nathan Myers

sure, lad

October 13, 2016 - 02:44

Charles Robinson

Objectively yes. Kicking out muzzies and mexicans (probably won't happen) is better than throwing Syria to the jihadists.

October 13, 2016 - 02:48

Thomas Morales

And it would be a sick cunt who disputes this.

October 13, 2016 - 02:48

Nathan Brooks

...

October 13, 2016 - 02:49

Jace Hill

Spamming that meme won't change anything. Trump is much better on foreign policy than Clinton, and he is an explicit fuck you vote.

October 13, 2016 - 02:49

Easton Clark

You're under the assumption that Trump actually means a thing he says and won't default to the establishment position.

October 13, 2016 - 02:49

Jose Foster

I don't think you understand fully how politics works. It's not just about a calculation of direct effects, it's also a spectacle and glorification of the system - that's exactly how you keep the citizenry unaware and compliant. Voting Trump is like punching your fist through that pretension that the system is great. They can't keep the charade going after people vote for a candidate that says "we are so stupid as a country".

October 13, 2016 - 02:57

Carson Williams

You spelled "facts" wrong.

The political establishment & the business establishment. The political est. is run by the business est., that's why we find ourselves in the predicament we're in. Why do you think shit trade deals like NAFTA & TPP are as successful as they have been, when the American people hate them?

He's all about "good business deals". TPP is good business for them, and he's a business man, after all. And you can't believe a word he says.

War is big business, user.

wew

At least he did win his nomination democratically, unlike Hillary. They're both reprehensible human beings, though.

Vote third party if you want a "moral" choice.

October 13, 2016 - 02:59

Isaiah Price

You're right. There's a chance that Trump would be bullied be people much smarter and more informed than he is into following their script. But Clinton has form. Clinton has been more hawkish on Syria than either Kerry or Obama. The change in tone on Syria the past couple of months are setting the stage. Britain has all but signed of on joining a coalition of the willing.

October 13, 2016 - 03:02

Sebastian Gutierrez

...

October 13, 2016 - 03:03

Andrew Gutierrez

So you're saying no Trump cause he MAY start a war in Syira and MAY sign off on TPP, where we KNOW Clinton will do both. How's that work?

Yes, I'm sure with state funding the Greens will be a force to be reckoned with next time.

October 13, 2016 - 03:05

Chase Adams

Argument by assertion, it doesn't matter what you think user

October 13, 2016 - 03:07

Nathaniel James

are we being raided

October 13, 2016 - 03:10

Leo Sanchez

I said nothing about Syria. But they both MAY do both.

Yes, with state funding, being put on all state ballot & participating in future Presidential debates, they will be a force to be reckoned with. Wikileaks Podesta emails even showed Clinton's team conceding this.

No, it matters what your candidate actually says themselves. Trump has contradicted himself 1000 times over. You're a retard if you believe a word he says.

>>>Holla Forums

October 13, 2016 - 03:13

Isaiah Hernandez

It's for your own good.

October 13, 2016 - 03:13

Lincoln Bailey

Clinton will TPP. I'd be willing to bet on that. She will almost certainly Syria. Anyway. I'm done. Just remember you were warned.

October 13, 2016 - 03:14

Sebastian Johnson

No, we're just not those obnoxious and moralizing liberal leftists that like to be outraged at everything.

October 13, 2016 - 03:16

Joseph Parker

Lmao, what? You must be very new here.

October 13, 2016 - 03:23

Adrian Campbell

Hey, real leftists, don't listen to these stupid Trump fascists! Let's vote for the Communist Party USA instead! We call ourselves communists and they call themselves communists, so that's an obvious choice!

:^)

Hey, political realists, don't listen to these naive people who think Trump is better because of his anti-establishment propaganda! Let's vote for Hillary Clinton instead! We know nothing will change either way, so let's at least vote for the candidate that has pro-establishment propaganda!

:^)

October 13, 2016 - 03:29

Dylan Moore

...

October 13, 2016 - 03:29

Caleb Gutierrez

...

October 13, 2016 - 03:31

Josiah Edwards

Jesus Christ user, how new are you?

See &

October 13, 2016 - 03:32

Lincoln Taylor

yeah I was super confused

October 13, 2016 - 04:43

Andrew Thomas

That you're not is the whole point. It's a ridicule of a way of thinking.

I see many things wrong with the Holla Forums's very simplistic approach to politics, and because you're such deliberate linguistic autists, I have to explicitly point out that I don't mean they're all always present at the same time, some of them are even somewhat contradictory with each other, but that's doesn't stop anyone on this board to shuffle between them. Nor are they explicit or conscious, they are almost always just implicit ways of thinking behind statements made.
a) politics is about making a spreadsheet of immediate pluses and cons (strategy is a unnecessary complexity or even cynicism)
b) politics is about what you call yourself (as long as someone is called X, then everything they say and do is X)
c) politics is only about material effects (opinions of the people, ideology, propaganda, all this doesn't make a difference)
d) only the system has power (what people do and think is irrelevant to the fate of the system)
Like I said, these are implicit ways of thinking. Probably very few people here consciously think these are true.
There are other things as well, like the fact that arguments are reduced to spamming of memes beyond their intended message. Like this one here: . This is a perfect meme intended for some right-wing Trump supporter that doesn't have any notion of capitalism and his social position as a worker. But when it comes to actually debating among ourselves on the political effects of electing either Trump or Clinton this meme is used only to shut down any discussion, and the implicit thinking behind the posting of this meme seems to be especially (a), (c), and (d).

October 13, 2016 - 04:49

David Wright

Dude.. how high are you?

October 13, 2016 - 04:59

Cameron Gomez

You're acting as if people didn't engage you. Once they did you said

October 13, 2016 - 05:00

Ethan Powell

There is more than one poster here interested in a discussion about differences between Trump and Clinton being elected. I understand that poster's frustration though.

October 13, 2016 - 05:05

Levi Garcia

Obviously there's more than one. But only one seemed butthurt.

There's plenty of actual discussion that goes on in Holla Forums. You make shit arguments about Trump then some people will laugh/meme at you. You want to have a nuanced discussion? Then bring nuance to the conversation.

And Holla Forums isn't just one political view. Making such a wide generalization isn't accurate. Go to >>>Holla Forums & try to have a nuanced discussion on critiquing Trump & Hillary. See how well that works out or that you're not memed at.

October 13, 2016 - 05:10

Jacob Martin

Voting Trump doesn't challenge the system at all. He's a deliberate goat spouting nonsense, most of which is terrible on its own face. And as said before, if by some chance Trump got in there, there is no reason to believe he wouldn't fall in line with the establishment, except that he'll shit on workers even more than is normal. His own party will be happy to push for every horrible thing they can pass and deflect all the blame onto Trump, Democrats will allow every horrible thing they can think of to pass and obviously blame Trump, just like they were able to do when they blamed Bush for everything (while meekly bending over for every tyrannical measure the Bush administration enacted). These conclusions are obvious if you actually dissemble Trump's content (what little there is), he's an obvious stooge and piece of shit.

October 13, 2016 - 05:50

Jacob Campbell

WIKILEAKS BARREL BOMBS CLINTON CAMPAIGN: PART 6

is this even legal?

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/786561698303881221

October 13, 2016 - 06:55

David Edwards

WITNESS ME!

proofs:

cnn.com/2016/10/12/politics/john-podesta-twitter-hack-hillary-clinton/

October 13, 2016 - 07:03

Cameron Rogers

But there was nuance. Nobody claimed Trump is good.
Among other things it was said that Trump is less hawkish than Clinton, and there was a source published that shows his (very un-American and not politically profitable) statements about foreign policy. One poster responded with that Trump=Clinton=capitalism meme that isn't even relevant to what we're talking about. Someone suggested voting for Trump was a moral choice because of Clinton's eagerness to go to wars and kill millions of people, another then proceeded to twist that into claiming Trump himself is moral and ended it at that. These are all infantile reactions.
It was also said that a vote for Trump is an anti-establishment vote but nobody argued this will have much of a material effect or that Trump himself is anti-establishment. On the contrary, it was pointed out that material effects aren't everything and that a massive collective public rejection of the establishment also has political effects. I didn't see anyone respond to that.

The reason why I wrote that post about implicit ways of thinking in the first place is precisely to respond to all these simplistic and automatic reactions against even considering that there is a difference between voting Trump and Hillary. There never was much of a difference in the past between voting one establishment party or the other, nobody is denying that. But you would have to be an intellectually lazy cynic that keeps repeating "everything is the same, nothing matters" to claim that this year's elections aren't something abnormal. Trump is a symptom of a growing rejection of the system and the refusal to go along with what they say is good for us. Lots of people who vote for Trump don't think he's actually good, they say so themselves, they are just sick of all this collective pretension that people like the status quo. But it's the nutty Trump supporters that get sensationalized in the media to blackmail people into thinking Clinton and her fans are less insane.

Why is then the establishment doing everything to not get him elected, while so eager to elect Hillary? Who will they get to blame if Hillary, the establishment personified, is elected? It seems naive to me to think that redirecting all hate towards the president is a desirable goal for the system, nothing breeds collective revolt faster than a really hated common enemy in the form of a single person. And what does that produce 4 years after, considering recent history of presidents? If anything then even more mistrust towards presidential candidates and towards the establishment who at best publicly criticizes but goes along and does nothing to oppose.

October 13, 2016 - 07:05

Ryder Rodriguez

kek. Has anyone ever been raped this hard before?

October 13, 2016 - 07:05

Tyler Edwards

...

October 13, 2016 - 07:17

Mason Young

That's why Bush wasn't actually good for the system and had to be replaced with Obama who was more effective at doing the same shit and more. Obama is too smooth to get so many people to protest in the streets.

October 13, 2016 - 07:35

Logan Price

lol you don't remember the protests against a Syrian no-fly zone in 2013? They weren't large but they were real and well-attended. Large reason why Congress said No.

October 13, 2016 - 07:44

Evan Peterson

Yeah, because the American public has gotten very suspicious of such interventions after Bush's too direct approach. In general people like Obama much more than they did Bush, yet Obama even expanded US operations. For example, if leaks about NSA happened under Bush there would be more outrage.
I think it works somewhat like that: Obama looks reasonable, he's a black democrat, so you trust what he's doing more. Bush is childish and wild, he's a republican, so you don't trust him that much. And that's why each democrat smoothly does what his republican predecessor couldn't afford to. Bill Clinton is similar.

October 13, 2016 - 07:57

Jonathan Walker

Wew lad.

October 13, 2016 - 08:07

Joshua Gomez

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/7252
talking about moving primary dates specifically at hill dawg's request

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/7243
hillary herself emailing detailed strategic information to combat isil and pressure qatar and ksa

October 13, 2016 - 08:18

Luke Russell

That one about ISIL was already in some older release, but it's interesting how they didn't want to give heavy weapons to the Kurds when they still liked Turkey, now they don't have any problems with it anymore.

They act like global managers of political forces without any consideration for what these forces actually want, it's just pawns on the map for them.

October 13, 2016 - 08:23

Dylan Price

Fuck this cunt. Brings back Primary feels. I hope she gets RFK'd. This one in particular should be shared, all around.

October 13, 2016 - 08:24

Jordan Parker

reddit.com/r/HillaryForPrison/comments/57aayb/wikileaks_releases_part_6_the_podesta_emails_part/

Collection of Emails that I'm too lazy to write out, but will just link here:

>WIKILEAKS: Apologies are like her (Hillary Clinton's) Achilles heel. But she didn't seem like a bitch in the interview. And she said the word sorry. She will get to a full apology in a few interviews. wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/8961

>Discussion of a fake Wall St Speech to Leak wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/8086#efmAYqAgR

>Fake released Wall St Speeches wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/8086

>Hillary's Debate Prep Book wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/8009

>Discussion of CNN Paid Polling (WTF?) wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/9059

>Rapist Bill $1M Birthday Check wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/8396#efmAAGABSAEOAETAEaAGWAGaAHZAJBAJd

>Rigging the IL Primary wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/7252?2

>Benghazi Leaking wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/8163

>Clinton knew that bashing B████ would backfire wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/7899

>Mishandling classified data wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/7460

>"we are Pro-TPP" wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/7921

>Hillary is 100% negative wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/7742

>NY Primary ties wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/7716

>DWS giving Dem convention info, asking Huma 'Not To Share' wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/7741

>AP knew Hillary was going to run well before her announcement wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/7489

>Talking about smearing B████ with some photo wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/7699

October 13, 2016 - 08:24

Elijah Flores

>On Friday, September 4, 2015, Neera Tanden > wrote:

>She gets into a rhythm when there's tons of interviews. But I definitely recommend having her beat up a punching bag (or a staffer but that is unpleasant) before she goes on. She really needs to exorcise the injustice of it all.

Yeah, really, it's Hillary that's been wronged in all of this.

October 13, 2016 - 08:30

Tyler Jackson

WEW

October 13, 2016 - 08:36

Oliver Cruz

Think she'll step down? This is getting pretty damned big. I mean she may still win the vote, but it would make a total sham of American democracy. History will not judge this level of corruption lightly. Unless she finishes of the pesky reds and we can declare (again) the end of history.

October 13, 2016 - 08:44

Kayden Allen

Hopefully wikileaks just drops something that can't be avoided to save her stepping down.

October 13, 2016 - 09:01

Brandon Sullivan

Lmao god damn wikileaks is the true fifth estate.

October 13, 2016 - 09:10

Samuel Martin

Step down? Bitch won't stop until there's a red, swollen sphincter where our democracy once was.

I honestly have no clue how they're going to deal with the historic fall out that will come after this election. Their level of idiocy and delusion is truly flabbergasting.

October 13, 2016 - 09:22

Isaiah Bennett

It is cute that you think we had a democracy. Though back to point, the only way to deal with people like Hillary is send a revolutionary army to deal with them.

October 13, 2016 - 09:33

Robert Rodriguez

are you retarded?

October 13, 2016 - 09:35

Chase Phillips

yes but over time the tolerance for it runs out. Either give the people what they want or be replaced by someone who does.

October 13, 2016 - 09:37

Ayden James

She won't step down. It's too late for that.

October 13, 2016 - 09:38

Nathaniel Ross

These elections are a pretty clear evidence of that, and it doesn't help that Clinton is the most unappealing establishment figure possible.

Of course she won't step down, but I don't think her chances of winning are as good as they seem. The polls are paid by her campaign wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/9059#efmAFaAFy

October 13, 2016 - 09:56

Hunter Collins

It's fucking never-ending.

Quick recap, feel free to fill in the ones I miss.

I mean I'm only looking back a couple of years here and not even going full tinfoil

October 13, 2016 - 10:09

Brayden Barnes

Her fans (CRT) and the media are also paid by her campaign, everything is staged.
It would be hilarious if Hillary herself doesn't know the extent of it and is delusional about her success. The emails of her staff sometimes make it seem so: she's not doing the right things strategically because she's getting wrong feedback about what works and what not due to her campaign's own manipulation of that feedback.

October 13, 2016 - 10:09

Nathaniel Perry

This is getting out of hand
archive.is/LRkuN

Hillary's:
archive.is/wFyaM

October 13, 2016 - 10:14

Jace Hall

You forgot the part where the DNC used their media connections to force Trump on the Republicans.

It explains rather nicely why the Republican establishment couldn't stop his nomination. He was having outside help.

October 13, 2016 - 10:16

James Perez

In the end the whole elections could be staged. Almost nobody votes for a certain candidate but because you rig the votes and stage supporters in the media it makes it seem like there are lots of people out there who actually voted for that candidate.

This year you have a lot of people saying "I don't actually know anybody who will vote for Hillary".

October 13, 2016 - 10:20

Nathan Collins

This is only helping her, what idiots. Is this black propaganda or something? It makes all her attackers seem like Holla Forums.

October 13, 2016 - 10:23

Hudson Sanders

Apparently these write-in B████ retards did a blitz over social media last night. I now have to go out and spend a ton of time explaining to people why that's a terrible idea.

October 13, 2016 - 10:32

Cameron Bennett

Are going to convince them to vote for Jill or something else?

October 13, 2016 - 10:34

Joseph Davis

It'd be a lot worse if the press were still intact and had the capital to do something about it; the emails tie Clinton's camp to virtually every major news network trying to smother the leaks by attacking Trump, so CNN reporting on these page hacks will look like an already tired routine. This literally does nothing for her but makes her look like a public enemy.

October 13, 2016 - 10:36

Jacob Sanders

Jill. Our state doesn't even count write-ins on the presidential ballot, and a ton of others don't either.

October 13, 2016 - 10:45

Austin Perez

Twitter locks out @JamesOKeefeIII just as he begins to release embarrassing DNC footage.

October 13, 2016 - 11:11

Alexander Garcia

>I was and still am a B████ supporter, and I hate a lot of things about Clinton, but none of that matters anymore. If Trump is elected, people are going to die. Women are going to die when Roe v Wade is overturned and Planned Parenthood is defunded. LGBTQ people are going to die when conversion therapy is further legalized and more bathroom bills are passed. POC are going to die as Trump rounds up Mexican immigrants, gives more power to the police, and fuels the fires of Islamaphobia. Poor people are going to die as Obamacare gets overturned and further cuts are made to welfare programs. And that’s just in this country. That’s not even taking account the all-too-likely outcomes of Trump starting new wars in the Middle East and having control of nuclear bombs that he’s said he ‘would not rule out’ using.

I found this while searching Tumblr. I don't I know if I should be angry or amused.

This is the world Hillary has created.

October 13, 2016 - 11:12

Asher Perry

...

October 13, 2016 - 11:16

David Baker

The rest I could understand if you're a hysterical demisexual ambigendered Tumblrfag that thinks all Republicans are literally Hitler, but Trump's been pretty apathetic about culture warring over abortions, "the gays", and tranny bathrooms

October 13, 2016 - 11:27

Nicholas Foster

I noticed that, too. Honestly it seems like Hillary supporter work. Take more votes from Jill Stein. There's another link floating around a lot about titled, "How B████ can become President with just 130,000 votes" which I'm positive is bullshit.

October 13, 2016 - 11:40

Andrew Davis

damn, that's nice.

Saved for later use

October 13, 2016 - 11:42

Carter Murphy

whatever gives you that idea?

October 13, 2016 - 11:44

Leo Davis

What pisses me off is that it is always ignored that she and her people are also insane war fanatics. That is something her fans still can't accept and say "I don't care".
But regardless, so much moral bankruptcy for people who fight for "social justice". Holy fuck.

October 13, 2016 - 11:45

Tyler Taylor

Lmao

Seriously though, it's scary how people actually thought it was legit. I've not even heard of the website it's hosted on, and people just forgot about the electoral college? Come on, America.

October 13, 2016 - 11:50

John Barnes

Have you considered submitting your discovery to a journal?

October 13, 2016 - 11:51

Xavier Miller

Are we just witnessing the first media civil war (MSM, twitter, youtube, blogs…)? There were media wars before, but not civil wars.

October 13, 2016 - 11:51

Charles Cook

I've got a small collection myself.

October 13, 2016 - 12:09

Carter King

It has nothing to do with lateness. HRC is the Democratic Party. Her stepping down is laughable. I mean totally, never going to happen.

October 13, 2016 - 12:19

Dylan Peterson

We need a 2016 version:
youtube.com/watch?v=T5ayK694PZI

October 13, 2016 - 12:21

Ethan Ramirez

...

October 13, 2016 - 12:24

Ayden Kelly

counterpunch.org/2016/05/23/only-donald-trump-raises-five-fundamental-and-urgent-foreign-policy-questions-stephen-f-cohen-bemoans-msms-dismissal-of-trumps-queries/

October 13, 2016 - 12:27

Parker Johnson

NO!

Only because I can't let my heart get broken again.

October 13, 2016 - 12:30

Wyatt Wright

Better bomb ISIS than Assad and Iran tbh. Besides, Clinton knows why nukes shouldn't be used yet already threatened to nuke another country.

October 13, 2016 - 12:30

Eli Brooks

Are you stupid? The U.S. has never taken the nuclear first strike option off the table. In fact, the nuclear first strike is called nuclear deterrence, and is one of the cornerstones of foreign policy in the nuclear age!

October 13, 2016 - 12:33

Jordan Myers

Pence isn't, though. Also, how the fuck is Trump apathetic about abortions?

October 13, 2016 - 12:34

Evan Phillips

It would be extremely good if the U.S. was actually bombing the hell out of Isis, instead of just pretending to bomb the hell out of them while actually trying to allow them to grow in a direction that puts pressure on Assad in a stunningly shortsighted gambit even for the U.S.

October 13, 2016 - 12:36

Hunter Cruz

Oh brother. Then talk about Kaine, who might actually become president lel.

On an unrelated note, liberals spazzing out when trump simply repeats current U.S. Foreign policy that the Obama admit keeps low-key is funny.

October 13, 2016 - 12:38

Bentley Myers

Imagine the reaction of trump said he would refuse to nuke Russia or Iran under any circumstances lol

October 13, 2016 - 12:43

Carter Ross

Kaine changed his position on abortion, and he has nothing to gain by going back on it, especially when he's serving under fucking Hillary. Pence makes a career out of being awful on social issues. I can't believe you could miss the fact that a politician's stance on social issues is entirely based on what their key voter demographic wants, and Kaine won in his state by being a blue dog.

October 13, 2016 - 12:50

Joshua Carter

He was torn a new asshole by Cruz and the evangelicals in the primaries over his pro-abortion stances, after which he said some empty platitudes about it but I don't think President Trump is going to be handing out presidential pardons like candy to abortion clinic bombers or anything.

October 13, 2016 - 12:50

Cameron Sanders

Holy shit.
They're trying to tie it to Russia?
I hate these fucking retards.

October 13, 2016 - 12:52

Dominic Ward

Jimmy Dore is more scared of Clinton than Trump as well:
youtube.com/watch?v=y0U0wGAlpgM

October 13, 2016 - 12:53

Jeremiah Allen

Because many Democrats never had a problem with warmongering per se, they just had a problem with Republican warmongering, i.e. "We can do it better!"

See: muh smart power muh Obama Doctrine

October 13, 2016 - 13:11

Bentley Roberts

wew lad

October 13, 2016 - 14:01

Julian Ross

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/7136

Chelsea Clinton was caught stealing from the foundation.

4000 Foundation (2500 Non CVC + 1500 CVC)

2500 CESC

1500 CVC Office (For profit work)

reddit.com/r/DNCleaks/comments/57bek1/chelsea_busted_stealing_from_clinton_foundation/

Shit is getting real fellas

October 13, 2016 - 14:03

Blake Fisher

Ahh the Clinton Foundation. Raise 10s of millions in donation from arab despots for Haiti disaster relief, reward arabs with weapons and trade deals, skim 95% of the top, spend 3% funding CTR, give 2% to your friends in Haiti for redevelopment then claim moral high ground.

October 13, 2016 - 14:08

Ian Morris

I'm more afraid of a Trump victory, mainly because I feel it will set the left back at least 8 years

October 13, 2016 - 14:12

Hunter Bailey

Time goes forward, not backwards.

October 13, 2016 - 14:14

Alexander Lee

I am not, Trump is too class unconscious thus will simply accelerate decay of capitalism.

October 13, 2016 - 14:16

Asher Parker

Thanks for that helpful tip user

The way I see it, if Hillary looses the Democratic Party will spend the next 4 - 8 years blaming B████ and anyone to the left of them, calling them racist, sexist, homophobic muh privileged mansplainers, and will just corral everyone back into voting for whatever shitty Obama clone they put up next time. I mean, it worked in 2000.

October 13, 2016 - 14:18

Mason Bennett

I'm too tired of this meme that Clinton, who made liberals use fascist propaganda tactics, is better for the left. Just say you're not voting for her…

October 13, 2016 - 14:20

Isaac Walker

You are ignoring what will happen with a Trump presidency and all the anger towards the system Trump was able to ride on. By the next election the system might not have any of its façade still standing and only naked bourgeois politics would remain.

October 13, 2016 - 14:25

John Perez

Yes, but 2000 happened, and Bush happened, and then Obama happened, and it was worse than Bush. People are not that stupid, they are now very mistrustful towards pretty faces that talk nicely - the reason why S█████ and Trump are so popular.

October 13, 2016 - 14:25

Jose Hill

I've no love lost for Obama but I think worse than Bush is unfair, at least on foreign policy.

October 13, 2016 - 14:28

Jackson Hughes

And it's still not enough, apparently. All that wealth and power and Chelsea still has to steal more.

October 13, 2016 - 14:30

Tyler Cox

I mean, quite frankly it's a toss-up. I think what's most important is that people have a place to turn to. But where is that? S, maybe, but will he run again? And besides, he's only one person. The Green Party? Maybe, but that's even a longer shot I feel.

I just don't know.

October 13, 2016 - 14:31

Thomas Ward

As far as I know the extensive drone operations are his achievement, and he personally selects targets, with 90% of kills being collateral damage, as documented in intercept's drone papers:
theintercept.com/drone-papers/

I wonder how that would be taken under Bush. But Obama is like a talk show host instead of a monkey clown.

October 13, 2016 - 14:34

Liam Wilson

Yeah, I see your point. That Bush would have at least got the flack he deserved instead of being beyond reproach cause reasons. But I think the legacy of Bush is going to be much further reaching. Well, apparently even Bush isn't fully to blame, but Rove and Chaney were MUCH more active in the scheming. But yeah. Fuck 'em all.

October 13, 2016 - 14:38

Jason Hall

I'm sorry to do this to you guys. I just found pic related on 4/pol/. Rage is resurfacing. Please let Hillary get trampled by a herd of wild horses, somehow finding their way into the city.

JUSTICE FOR LARRY

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Someone with skills, please do us all a favor & edit this to fit the situation..
vimeo.com/51696356

October 13, 2016 - 15:26

Leo Jackson

youtube.com/watch?v=Ko4tVc6Jx_Y

This is the first time I've watched it since then. Jesus Christ, these feels.

October 13, 2016 - 15:34

Charles Sullivan

...

October 13, 2016 - 15:36

Bentley Nguyen

Since Americans are fucked either way (because they're too stupid to vote third party), how long until the inevitable revolution which tears the United States Empire apart?

And what will come after the revolution? IngSoc?

October 13, 2016 - 15:41

Andrew Rodriguez

should i buy a gun? should i be prepared to take a trumples life?

October 13, 2016 - 15:44

Josiah Long

Neoliberal propaganda is drawing a close. What oh-so-subtle ideology will emerge in its place?

October 13, 2016 - 15:47

Grayson King

If Hillary wins, then goes to war with Russia, and then the economy shits itself/zika rampages/some other natural disaster expect to see people in the streets burning shit.

October 13, 2016 - 15:47

Jose Kelly

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/8086

Oh, Hillary

There's no :^) big enough

October 13, 2016 - 15:51

Jason Cox

Capitalism with asian values! *sniff*

October 13, 2016 - 15:52

Jayden Smith

That's what it was based on, dummy. The idea was that if B████ can get a delegate he'll be in the top three that the House of Representatives has to choose from if nobody gets 270 delegates. Of course the main problem with it is a. if Trump does somehow manage to get over 270 and B████ takes Vermont it doesn't actually matter if it added to Clinton's deficit and not Trump's advantage, he'd still get called Nader and a spoiler for the next billion majillion years. Not to mention, let's say he DOES take Vermont and nobody has 270 and Trump wins the HR somehow, or he refuses to support his own candidacy and gets like two votes in the HR.

I could see it happening if people actively worked to make it happen and the WikiLeaks got real real real fast. But there's the aforementioned issues.

October 13, 2016 - 15:58

Brody Nguyen

To be fair, this election went to shit so fast that it caught most Americans off guard.

I'm sure a good percentage are hoping for some miracle happens before voting day. Remember when everyone was overjoyed at the prospect of Hillary dying? We're desperate for an end to this madness.

October 13, 2016 - 16:03

Wyatt Morales

You can say that again.

Usually they at least start off pretending to be diplomatic and austere and grow more surly as the spectacle goes on.

I think alot of people were surprised when it started out insane.

October 13, 2016 - 16:07

Charles Peterson

It's kind of like reading doomsday journals with these e-mails. They're politely pointing out that Hillary is damaging herself with these lies, but she just keeps going.

October 13, 2016 - 16:10

Jonathan Sanchez

To be quite honest these emails present Clinton in a favourable light. They make her seem, at the very least, both honest and boring. I think people need to calm down a bit.

October 13, 2016 - 16:14

Zachary Johnson

kek

October 13, 2016 - 16:16

Lucas King

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/7469

grist.org/business-technology/general-mills-is-doing-gmo-labeling-because-its-just-easier/

:^)

Is Castro sabotaging the sugar supply???? Is there no perfidy those evil Socialists won't stoop to in order to sabotage Capitalism???????

October 13, 2016 - 16:18

Dominic Walker

And it just kept getting crazier.

Honestly, your average American doesn't know shit about third parties. Most have never needed to vote for them in their entire lives, so you can't expect grandma to vote Stein, let alone know who she is. There just wasn't enough time after the conventions to get the word out.

But 2020 will be a very different story. They'll remember this election and how the ruling parties forced them to pick a candidate they loathed.

October 13, 2016 - 16:21

Gabriel Gutierrez

You forgot to add

October 13, 2016 - 16:21

Christopher Sanders

No I didn't.

October 13, 2016 - 16:23

Aaron Cox

Fug, I forgot the best part, where they directly interfere in national policy to try and make Bunny Sandals look bad.

[…]

October 13, 2016 - 16:24

Jose White

He's obviously antagonistic towards the Republican Party (and they to him) and he's shunned by a lot of their huge donors.

Also, trump has pretty clear policy on everything if you just go directly to his website and read up. But when do we hear about policy this election? Because people don't like Hillary's policy! It might make it clear that trump is actually a better candidate on policy alone.

October 13, 2016 - 16:24

William Wilson

This being the r/politics line is very grating.

October 13, 2016 - 16:26

Isaiah Martin

Hillaryism

October 13, 2016 - 16:27

Wyatt Cooper

r/politics is nothing but Hillary fags.

October 13, 2016 - 16:27

Blake Butler

I'm sorry that you can't stand the opinions of other people.

October 13, 2016 - 16:29

Jack Cruz

>I'm sorry that you can't stand the opinions of other people retards.

October 13, 2016 - 16:30

Benjamin Evans

Insulting me won't prove your point.

October 13, 2016 - 16:31

Gavin Rodriguez

rather CTR than Hillary supporters

October 13, 2016 - 16:31

Luis Green

what's the difference?

October 13, 2016 - 16:32

Jacob Hill

It's mostly that this was the actual CTR line (sometimes being copy and pasted across multiple accounts) within hours after the emails were released (shortly after the initial doubt-seeding failed) that bugs me.

October 13, 2016 - 16:35

Andrew Wilson

Quit shitting up the thread, faggot

October 13, 2016 - 16:36

Matthew Diaz

second

October 13, 2016 - 16:37

Anthony Fisher

I'm sorry that you can't stand truth

October 13, 2016 - 16:37

Owen Hernandez

The truth is that you are a faggot.

October 13, 2016 - 16:38

Christopher Lewis

Again, insulting me won't prove your point. I'm very close to reporting you, so please stop.

October 13, 2016 - 16:40

Samuel Morales

This is a image board, the mods won't ban me for calling you a faggot. Now run back to the circle jerk called Reddit where you belong.

October 13, 2016 - 16:41

Connor Evans

weak trolling & you continue to derail the thread

October 13, 2016 - 16:42

Nathan Ramirez

I'll see you there.

October 13, 2016 - 16:42

Bentley Lewis

Berniebros on BTFO status.

October 13, 2016 - 16:43

Isaac Brooks

reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/578y6b/they_killed_scalia/d8pygq3

1/2

so here's how you reading comprehension this, for the autists in the room:

The attached image is just part of his signature for the PR firm he founded. It means nothing.

with the feb 2nd email, steve is referencing some earlier business they had that is so important that they both know about it. Steve is representing the interests of Podesta's team in doing some kind of deal. We had no idea what the deal is. The "raising money" and "heading to NH" parts are not relevant to the business in question, but "talking the bedwetters off the ledge" is.

Bedwetters means scared people. Off the ledge means making them less scared. This means that, in relation to the plan where they "won" there are some people involved who are very scared and worried and it's part of Steve's job to calm them down. So we've already established that Steve is trying to calm some people down to do with the plan that they "won"

We know the plan originated with Podesta because Steve says "congrats" in the subject of the email.

Steve was lobbying to get some deal made on behalf of Podesta. We're conjecturing that the deal was the deal about agreeing to murder Scalia.

So by this theory, Steve has gone around to important people and got them on board with the murder plan. He emails Podesta to tell him that Steve has successfully persuaded the counterparty, but that now as fallout he needs to calm down the people who are very worried about the murder plot (the bedwetters who are 'on the ledge')

2/2

Later, again referencing some common event they shared, Podesta sends a "Subject: Thanks" message to Steve. Podesta is thanking Steve for something that Steve has done in the interim that both of them have obvious knowledge of. By our theory, Podesta is thanking Steve for addressing the lingering concerns of some of the involved parties, who have made a fuss about the plan. Both Podesta and Steve knew about these fussers independently of the email–maybe there was as big meeting and Podesta witnessed Steve successfully lobbying for the murder plot.

Steve convinced the bedwetters, and now Podesta is saying "Thanks" and then throwing in a final comment:

Didn't think wet works meant pool parties at the Vineyard.

So Podesta is exasperated at the 'bedwetters' and rolling his eyes so as to say 'what did these pussies think? did they think MURDER is like a pool party at the vineyard'? Why did they get involved if they are too squeamish?

Then Steve replies back to this comment with:

I am all in Sounds like it will be a bad nite , we all need to buckle up and double down

He's restating his faith in the plan with the all in comment, and pointing out how now that he has lobbied so hard for this murder, he can't get out of it now. Maybe that he was so far "all in" is what motivated him so hard to convince the bedwetters to go through with it?

Then he says, 'sounds like it will be a bad nite' which plays on Podesta's comment about how murder is not a pool party at the vineyard. Steve is saying that if Scalia's night definitely won't turn out like a pool party at the vineyard. Then he's saying we need to buckle up which means prepare for the event, and double down which means DONT GET COLD FEET like the bedwetters. Don't be squeamish–gather your nerve and do your part in the plan. Go through with it–afterall if they don't go through with it, Steve is probably in trouble since at this point he is "all in"

October 13, 2016 - 16:49

David Green

nigga really…

October 13, 2016 - 16:57

Nicholas Lee

I wonder how likely it is for this to happen:
Republican party imploding and their members scattered and SOME (at least) will join or affiliate with the Dems party. With the Dems courting neo-cons and such.
Then, we have pro-2A Dems going around passing pro-gun bills.

Shit will be wild in the coming years.

October 13, 2016 - 17:53

Asher Thomas

twitter.com/bbcthisweek/status/786707390683119616

eyup

October 13, 2016 - 18:04

Joseph Anderson

The likelihood of the Republican Party splitting is extremely low. The party hates trump and will instantly unify against him.

October 13, 2016 - 18:22

Jeremiah Kelly

This election man.

October 13, 2016 - 18:24

Colton Jackson

…really nigga

Dude… how bate are you?
told you that u r high becausessssss

October 13, 2016 - 18:25

Kevin Anderson

But it's just going to be a formality. Or not?

October 13, 2016 - 18:36

Carson Morris

This story is literally NOWHERE in US media.

October 13, 2016 - 18:37

Thomas Diaz

bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37651858

The BBC are also trying to bury this article in the only way they know how.

Mrs Clinton denies handling classified information in her private emails.

October 13, 2016 - 18:53

Easton Cook

foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/13/fox-news-poll-clinton-leads-trump-by-7-points.html
Even the fox polls put Clinton ahead of trump by 7 points now

October 13, 2016 - 18:59

Jonathan Foster

If such a thing happens she will just say I don't recall

October 13, 2016 - 19:02

Michael Miller

Wow it's almost like corruption gives you an unfair advantage

October 13, 2016 - 19:03

Hudson Phillips

requesting other sources!
(also, kek)

October 13, 2016 - 19:04

Camden Nguyen

telesurtv.net/english/news/Bernie-Sanders-Asks-Obama-to-Halt-the-Dakota-Access-Pipeline-20161013-0018.html
Bernard Sandman asks Obama to oppose Dakota Access pipeline

October 13, 2016 - 19:54

Lucas Garcia

Capitalism with a chivalrous face.

October 13, 2016 - 21:16

Evan Phillips

So basically "Woke" Capitalism? Isn't that basically neoliberalism?

October 13, 2016 - 21:21

Andrew Brooks

If she's found guilty of perjury (which is pretty much public knowledge at this point), what would happen? Obviously that won't be the case, but is there even any possibility of jail time or something?

October 13, 2016 - 21:29

Benjamin Wright

She'd be disbarred at least

October 13, 2016 - 21:32

Adam Harris

No, neofeudalism.

October 13, 2016 - 22:39

Jacob Ross

I'm banking on the opposite, with Trump serving as conclusive proof that SJW PC outrage isn't going to work anymore, and "economic reductionism" from "brocialists" is the only leftism that can get results. Also, depending on how duplicitous Trump turns out to be, a general push away from neolib/neocon elite agendas, back to real populism.

October 14, 2016 - 01:36

Jack Diaz

The Guardian wonders: "From liberal beacon to a prop for Trump: what has happened to WikiLeaks?"
theguardian.com/media/2016/oct/14/wiileaks-from-liberal-beacon-to-a-prop-for-trump-what-has-happened

And we may wonder too: from respected journalism to aggressive neoliberal propaganda: what has happened to the Guardian?

October 14, 2016 - 03:09

Kevin Nelson

How more retarded and submissive can you get?

October 14, 2016 - 03:14

Parker Howard

Hillary is the real accelerationist candidate at this rate.

October 14, 2016 - 03:20

Juan Parker

Ugh, after seeing this subtitle:

I refuse to read this garbage. Also, archive next time pls, so they don't get clicks.

October 14, 2016 - 03:20

Jeremiah Hall

...

October 14, 2016 - 03:27

Isaiah Morris

kek. Funny I keep seeing this line on 4/pol/ too from self professed Clinton supporters.

October 14, 2016 - 03:42

Isaiah Lewis

Not sure if this is CTR or just Holla Forums false-flagging as CTR.

October 14, 2016 - 03:43

Thomas Ross

This one.

We're almost there already in the west. Nobody can afford things any more. Your house. Your car. your phone your tv. All 'bought' on credit. We're a crisis away from these debts all being called in. This IS the new normal. The global financial and business elite will essentially own you. And social mobility is a thing of the past too thanks to the ever shrinking world. So you've got a degree in Comp Sci or engineering? That's cute. I'll pay you 25k a year. If not, a million Pajeets and Han a year qualify with your degree. One of them will be just too happy to work for that wage and likely do longer hours. Minimum wage you say? Well of to India I go.

Did Marx ever see this one coming?

October 14, 2016 - 03:53

Lucas Perry

The global elite are getting rivher and pulling up the ladders for fear of competition from Pajeet and Han mentioned above. The 'middle class' in America is defined as $25-75kpa. 25 to 75. Given the mean wage is what, 50k, I struggle to see how a combined household income of 25k makes you anything like middle class.This is IMO just above poverty wage. And despite massaging of the figures making unemployment seem low. 124million people in the US are in full time employment. There are over 200 million people in the US aged 16-64 (ie working age). This means that there are almost 80 million working age people in the US either part time, student or not seeking work.

October 14, 2016 - 04:04

Andrew Russell

Then we get to the looming final boss of technological unemployment. The idea that only low skilled workers is becoming increasingly obviously bullshit. Unless you offer a technical or technological niche, are in finance or are settled into the corporate realm, your chances of 'social mobility' are fast diminishing. Essentially, the bus has been and gone.

newscientist.com/article/mg22029382.400-the-maths-that-saw-the-us-shutdown-coming/

Anyhoo. /rant

October 14, 2016 - 04:25

Kevin Nelson

Christ, she's like a dictator when it comes to how she & her team controls the press.

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/5240

October 14, 2016 - 04:51

Luke Perry

What, you don't like dictators? Why you mentioning "Christ", if you consider god a spook?

October 14, 2016 - 04:56

Anthony Baker

Some dictators are alright. :^)

And yes, I'm still spooked by religion.

October 14, 2016 - 05:03

Lincoln Murphy

But she's the first female dictator, don't you think this is a big step forward for women around the world?
youtube.com/watch?v=iEtw3XJoJrE

October 14, 2016 - 05:04

Nolan Nelson

The Most Important WikiLeaks Revelation Isn’t About Hillary Clinton
What John Podesta’s emails from 2008 reveal about the way power works in the Democratic Party.

archive.fo/vEa9V

October 14, 2016 - 05:21

Landon Murphy

RELEASE: The Podesta Emails Part 7
wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/

October 14, 2016 - 05:45

John Barnes

...

October 14, 2016 - 05:50

Jose Allen

they need to slow down, everything is starting to get too saturated

not that I don't want them to dump, but give it at least 48 hours per dump

October 14, 2016 - 05:50

Camden Rogers

Fuck the bombs. I'm sick of war and I did not vote for Obama just to bomb Al-Queda 2. ISIS can do whatever the fuck they want, I seriously do not care. But every airstrike costs upwards of $50,000 and we should be using that money domestically.

I'm no peace lover, but at some point it's impossible to justify this. How the fuck are we supposed to even win in Iraq or Syria? This situation exists because we left, so anything other than 100,000+ boots on the ground (and close air support) as a world police will not fix it.

I'm not a fan of Assad either, but at this point it's better to just accept that democracy cannot exist in the middle east, and broker power with him instead of kicking out the last chair and give ISIS a direct linkage to Europe. A tiny bit of diplomacy goes a long day, and even Obama understands this. Hence the Iran Deal.

October 14, 2016 - 05:56

Nolan Evans

not to nitpick, but democracy can definitely exist in the middle east. the west just needs to stop blowing up every anything that moves

October 14, 2016 - 05:58

Cameron Allen

Smart Dems will do that. But most Dems aren't smart, they mindlessly base policy based on polling. Such is modern politics.

Neocons aren't going to jump the aisle either, regardless of what happens in 30 days they are a cause without a party. Christian centricism no longer sells. Secular centricism (neoliberalism) is dead too.

October 14, 2016 - 05:59

Carson Harris

Yeah, I'm thinking the same thing. On the other hand they said they're using some kind of algorithm, which could include analyzing twitter trends. For example, it could be that whenever the algorithm detects the interest is dropping it releases a new batch. This wouldn't be that hard to program, although you have to fine tune it really well.

At least they made a good decision not to separate releases into separate search frontends. People searching for something in newer releases are still stumbling upon undiscovered things in older releases.

October 14, 2016 - 06:02

Eli Moore

That gif they attached to this leak.. I'm fucking dead

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/786909945350328320

October 14, 2016 - 06:04

Xavier Flores

Depends on your definition of "democracy", I am using the commonly accepted 20th-century version where universal suffrage exists. The only way "democracy" can happen in the sandbox is if it's a carbon copy of the original US government: only landowners can vote and the central government's role in affairs is limited to police and infrastructure, welfare is administered locally.

The biggest mistake the CPA (Coalition Provisional Authority) made in Iraq was pushing things like feminism and gay rights far too early. It's what caused confidence in the post-Saddam government to collapse leading to ISIS. Political Islam is the reality now, thanks to our parents (HW Bush and the like) funding them and subverting all attempts at secular governments in the Cold War.

Things that matter: farms (and associated water projects), power grids, electric trains and libraries. This should have been the core focus of the US's nationbuilding efforts, and not trying to make a perfect parliament by dropping quotas for every single ethnic group everywhere.

October 14, 2016 - 06:04

William Hill

Bern-ie: is he hot or not?
wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/9089#efmADPADx

October 14, 2016 - 06:10

Jonathan Fisher

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/9668
Hillary team debating how to spin the TPA/TPP.

October 14, 2016 - 06:12

Evan Wilson

I wonder if the author's name will come up if you search through the emails, or if they deliberately chose some other, new willing puppet.

October 14, 2016 - 06:14

Noah Ward

I was right.

This is why Hilary is afraid of Trump: he is going balls out on these issues while she has to tread water and lie. This, along with her "catholic spring" shit, will help hand him the election.

More importantly, check the phrase "This is it for them". Hilary knows they're eroding away, so why the fuck does she continue to fuck them? I don't have that answer. But this is proof positive that the Democrats need to dump free trade or die as a national party.

October 14, 2016 - 06:18

Parker Gomez

So they were globalists all along

October 14, 2016 - 06:23

Joseph Fisher

The really stunning thing is how fucking delusional all these pricks are. They treat Hillary like she's a knight in shining armor here to save America, meanwhile amongst themselves belittling all the people they claim to represent and discussing how to best exploit and manipulate all their thoughts, feelings, and reactions to their dictatrix , while simultaneously complaining when people see through their cynical bullshit. All these tools speak, breath, and live corporate. None of them deserve to live and if there is any justice in the world they'll all end up swinging from lamp posts.

October 14, 2016 - 06:36

John Allen

I second this.

October 14, 2016 - 06:40

Hudson Stewart

;~; Now Hillary's buds own The Onion. It was great while it lasted.

October 14, 2016 - 06:42

Ryder Clark

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/9125
I wonder how much they really believe their own bullshit.

October 14, 2016 - 06:56

William Moore

To do list: put a female in power

October 14, 2016 - 06:59

Jaxon Collins

They all drank the kool aid.

The only, *respectable thing about the GOP is that the newer stock (ie Teafags and Trumpfags) are shameless and accept people will hate them, yet they accept they have to provide for their base and do so to the best of their ability.

Something is rotten inside the Democrats' house. Bunch of inbred NOVAfags and Hilary running everything, people who can barely conceive of life outside of the Beltway and cannot even grasp what life is outside cosmopolitan states. They've wrought their own destruction as a result, the "lower" (ie swing) state Democrats were all locked out of the conversation and now the Democrats are hemmed into a very small handful of states.

But it's not to be unexpected, as the modern Dem base is mostly suburban and urban boomers who know no better. Fact is, Hilary is one of them so of course they think she's great.

October 14, 2016 - 07:02

Ryan Evans

110%. Remember Obama? We all believed in him and it's the same shit now except it's Hilary. The party machine totally believes what they are doing is righteous, because Hilary is a woman and a majority of blacks and beans vote Dem.

And when Hilary looses, their excuse for all time will be "sexism". These people have lived and breathed "social justice" for their entire lives, most of them got their start during the civil rights movement in the 60s or gay rights movement in the 90s. Everything else is secondary to their vision of "progress". These are people who grew up during the biggest economic boom in history, and honestly don't care if it all melts away because their lives haven't changed much. Union workers losing their jobs are all racists anyway, so why protect them? They should have taken out five figures of student loans and gotten a real job, and become less racist. Everything to these people is based upon race and gender, because that is all they have ever known. Enough mexicans are moving in to replace them, anyway.

And it is for this reason the party will loose. They fundamentally misunderstood the importance of Labor and grossly overestimated regular people's tolerance for being fucked over. Detroit went bankrupt in 2013, meanwhile the Dems only care about giving illegal aliens drivers licenses (which undercut union drivers). Says a lot.

October 14, 2016 - 07:09

Xavier Nelson

*Says a lot about their priorities.

October 14, 2016 - 07:11

Nathan White

I take it you won't be crying "conspiracy" when Trump loses?

October 14, 2016 - 07:16

Isaac Evans

I reckon he won't loose. But if he does, then that means the Dems will simply kick the can to 2020 which is when they get throatfucked by Rubio/Cruz and America becomes a one party state again.

October 14, 2016 - 07:28

Blake Ramirez

some discussion about backdoors, malware, encryption, open-source, Silicon Valley, shillary not understanding technology…
wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/9181#efmACYAEcAGFAKlAQVAQqAXhAYaAZoAgbAlzAoFAvjAxt

October 14, 2016 - 07:31

Thomas Thompson

I wanted to post this.

October 14, 2016 - 07:34

Jaxon Perry

In one of the threads, one of Hillary's little clubhouse pals said that their damage control apology about HRC's AIDS remarks at Nancy Reagan's funeral brought the aide "to tears."

They are completely up their own assholes with this shit. They think they're saving the world and doing everyone a favor with their constant assault on democracy.

In another email chain their complete disconnect from reality comes up again when they remark on that Princeton study that says America is no longer a democracy. "So sad." Fucking pukes.

October 14, 2016 - 07:38

Charles Collins

jesus christ, they're explicitly saying they want to force all major tech companies to install spyware in their services. And they say this knowing full well "emergent encryption services" already exist and make it redundant

October 14, 2016 - 07:39

Ethan Baker

Holla Forums is having a another field day with pic related

Also fuck /r/politics, not a SINGLE thread there on any of the leaks. Yeah I know it's bought but jesus it wasn't this bad a month ago. It's like watching a cancer patient succumb

October 14, 2016 - 07:49

Chase King

Yeah, the point of contention seems to be that the "because terrorists" line will quickly lose efficacy.

As though that's the reason they want these back doors. :^)

October 14, 2016 - 07:50

Jose Gonzalez

That is fucking terrifying.

October 14, 2016 - 07:51

Evan Bennett

Hillary branded DipJars!
wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/9193

Is this kind of thing normal in America?

October 14, 2016 - 07:55

Jaxson Rogers

At first I thought you were talking about jars for used up dip tobacco, which really seems more appropriate.

But yeah, it's becoming increasingly normal. Money is speech, after all ;^D

October 14, 2016 - 08:00

Thomas Baker

The Catholic rejection is coming…
archive.fo/M2Agp

October 14, 2016 - 08:09

Parker Sullivan

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/4826/

Something about mandatory retirement funds… plan to privatize SS in the works?

October 14, 2016 - 08:13

Ryder Phillips

SAVAGE

October 14, 2016 - 08:39

Anthony Gomez

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/10090

October 14, 2016 - 08:39

Kayden Lewis

Maybe they can call up Duterte for some help.

October 14, 2016 - 08:49

Landon Jenkins

womp womp, looks like clinton for america

October 14, 2016 - 08:53

Jordan Rogers

My bookmarks can't keep up with all these fucking leaks.

October 14, 2016 - 09:03

Gabriel Clark

Yeah, and the guy gets his info from polling paid by Clinton and from MSM. There's never been a bigger rapture between the media and the people than this year's election.

October 14, 2016 - 09:10

Jayden Scott

This is what will cost her the election. Old people read this in their newsletters and will not vote for her on principle now.

Some lines aren't to be crossed; even Trump knows he can't take on Evangelicals. Democrats can't take on catholics.

October 14, 2016 - 09:15

Anthony Thompson

so it's shit? I kinda hope so.

October 14, 2016 - 09:15

Lincoln Edwards

is this a thing now? People don't even know how to use normal dip cards. Most swipe, especially when the cards still retain that functionality.

The vast majority of tips come from cash and checks, not credit cards. Millenials don't even have good credit and prefer to do things online so this idea doesn't even work on that level.

October 14, 2016 - 09:20

Jackson Watson

12 months ago (even just six months ago) NS himself said to ignore the polls on Trump.

October 14, 2016 - 09:21

Carson Gray

Apparently, it's still rolling out. I live in Silicon Valley (America's "tech capital) and all the machines here are swipe ones. I've seen terminals with the dip port but even then they have a swipe port on the side and that is what everyone uses.

I guess gas stations will get them in a year, but if everyone can still swipe why do retailers think they'll suddenly start dipping?

October 14, 2016 - 09:26

Gabriel Wright

The polls show that I am winning, no matter what the biased pundits say. I am a winner. The biggest winner. No one wins more than me. If you want to win, and win so much you'll be tired of winning, vote for me to make America great again.
The polls are rigged by the biased media. Even though the polls show that I'm losing, I am actually winning and will win on Election Day.

wew

October 14, 2016 - 09:30

Ryder Nguyen

I don't know for sure, but I'm really skeptical because his data isn't good or wide, and his methods probably aren't well suited for what's going on these elections, which are out of the ordinary. I can't imagine a good analytical model that would consider all the dynamics at play this year.
For example, consider this:
google.com/trends/explore?date=now 7-d&q=wikileaks,trump pussy,trump women,trump allegations

October 14, 2016 - 09:31

Anthony Myers

Why do I find this so goddamn disgusting? If you're going to bother sending someone out to collect donations, why bother even making a dedicated electronic device when you could hand someone a paypal link on paper cards or something. I seriously cannot think of anyone that would use one of these things in the open, because that's how credit card fraud happens.

October 14, 2016 - 09:31

Joseph Nguyen

The Catholic church certainly isn't immune to outside pressure, but they definitely don't like having outsiders interfere in internal church business like doctrine.

I won't be surprised if this isn't the last we hear of this from the papists.

October 14, 2016 - 09:32

Parker Bennett

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/7860

This is from HEE-lah-ree KLEEN-ton's strategy against owe-BAHM-uh.

October 14, 2016 - 09:42

Camden Clark

But he's right.

All along the biased media has been trying to rig things in Hillary's favor. First by pumping up Trump and giving his odious bullying every possible chance for media exposure, and now by trying to convince everyone that he's doomed and has no chance.

It's hardly a coincidence that the news is going all in with this "grab them by the pussy/he walked into our dressing room" stuff right when the most damning emails start to get dropped.

Now all he has to do is keep from making any more blatant blunders and he'll bury Hillary come November. He might be a vile, womanizing, racist, failure of a businessman, and most Americans will acknowledge that, but at least he's "honest" about it. Americans will take an honest barbarian over a dishonest elite any day, and Clinton is as dishonest and elite as they come.

I'm not planning on voting for Trump, but I love the irony that Trump is a Frankensteinian monster of both the Republicans' and Democrats' creation and now he's broke free his bonds and is proceeding to strangle both.

October 14, 2016 - 09:43

Ian Perry

Funny you should say that, Team Hill has been saying that the emails are a diversion tactic from pussygate.

October 14, 2016 - 09:45

Tyler Baker

I make a proposal that we filter Obama to owe-BAHM-uh.

October 14, 2016 - 09:46

Ian Williams

lol, how absurd

as though a rude comment from a private conversation that happened 11 years ago is worse than all this contemporary back room collusion/fraud/etc

how stupid would a person have to be in order to believe that

October 14, 2016 - 09:49

Nathaniel Williams

guccifer2.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/2-19-16-friends-of-hrc-list_hfa16-giving-history.xlsx

names to go along with email addresses btw

October 14, 2016 - 09:51

Dominic Evans

bbc.co.uk/news/technology-37657524

October 14, 2016 - 09:51

Kevin Torres

wew

October 14, 2016 - 09:53

Adrian Martinez

Also worth mentioning: pussygate obviously didn't work so CTR then began having anyone and everyone come out as "rape victims" against Trump. But this isn't working either, because there's too many victims (see the twatter hashtag on it) making any sort of coherent narrative impossible. For comparison, the khangate situation worked (at least temporarily) because it was one person that could be humanized and focused on.

It's just bad management, CTR is so desperate to dig up anything and throw everything at Trump it all becomes meaningless babble. What matters is a core narrative, even if it doesn't fit everyone's individual likes/wants (as many campaign strategists are want to do given that their digital information services promote this desire).

October 14, 2016 - 09:55

Kayden Gutierrez

The media is completely burying the wikileaks revelations. I am completely convinced that they are controlled now, I don't trust any of it.

October 14, 2016 - 09:56

Daniel Campbell

No, my point is that if the establishment was truly rigging the polls against Trump, why didn't they fucking do it during the primaries?

October 14, 2016 - 09:59

Angel Diaz

A pointless gesture, it's too late. Perhaps ten years ago a thing like this could have worked, but now the cat is already out of the bag and people will believe anything that is posted online. It also won't work when it goes against human nature. People believe in things that agree with them, and ignore things that don't. At best this will only antagonize all sides and cause them to simply ignore most establishment media outlets even more.

I mean, if people wanted a fact-based media we would still have it. But most newspapers and network TV studios are dead, radio is almost completely gone (save for AM radio, dominated by sports and Holla Forumsfaggotry) and the Internet has destroyed all consensus as people back into their own individual communities. Trying to force a narrative won't work.

October 14, 2016 - 10:00

Dominic Taylor

Because they pushed for Trump to win the primaries, this is all in the emails.

October 14, 2016 - 10:00

Bentley Russell

Because the "liberal" media thought he'd be easier to fight in the general, while Fox News was caught off guard. And, to be clear, Fox News themselves was totally anti-Trump until Cruz dropped out.

October 14, 2016 - 10:01

Joseph Rivera

The leaks are replete with collusion between Hillary's campaign and just about every major news outlet, from these "journalists" funneling them information, like Brazile's giving debate questions to Hillary's aides, to them having "friendly reporters" that they go to in order to create and disseminate positive spin.

The entire structure is rotten.

October 14, 2016 - 10:01

Christian Moore

I often forget how many religious people we have in the US. I guess this is one way the boomers will backfire on her! Lmao.

October 14, 2016 - 10:08

Justin Miller

It says in the leaks that Clinton wanted Trump to get the nomination because they thought he was the only one she could beat.

October 14, 2016 - 10:09

Thomas Morales

I think the more important point is that fact checking would be just a tool of propaganda. Google is a subtle propaganda machine as well, they manipulate search suggestions and results.

October 14, 2016 - 10:09

Samuel Howard

So in the primaries, they rigged it for Trump. In the general, they're rigging it against Trump.

October 14, 2016 - 10:12

Eli Murphy

I second this motion.

October 14, 2016 - 10:16

Isaac Howard

They aren't a majority, but they are a very important angle especially in swing states. Death by a thousand cuts, she's already alienated labor and now she's alienating catholics who have probably voted Democrat their entire lives. Of course one can argue that their vote doesn't matter, most are old people with Republican tendencies anyway. But it's one more chip off her base.

Also, as mentioned above it also opens the door to alienating hispanics, and completely destroying the Democrats' strategy for the past 50 years. Though this remains to be seen, I personally expect the Democrats to publicly apologize over this (if not before the election, then after it) and rebuild the bridge. But if they don't, it gives the GOP an unprecedented window.

October 14, 2016 - 10:17

Dominic Cruz

Every other news source is giving around the same numbers. I think you just dislike the result.

October 14, 2016 - 10:18

Evan Morales

2016, the year the spectacle eclipsed the sun.

Welcome to the techno-dystopia everybody.

October 14, 2016 - 10:20

Xavier Johnson

Hillary doesn't want to cancel a Wall Street speech even when her team are against it.
wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/9290#efmAEgAG8AJtAMUAO5APsAabAblAeQAgKAjKAlm

October 14, 2016 - 10:20

Jackson Ross

God damnit, user. Why'd you have to mention r/politics? I went to check & am inevitably arguing with CTR/Hillary supporters again. I hope they all die from spontaneous combustion, all at once. The world would be such a better place.

And yeah, not one mention of the leaks there. So I've been posting direct links to the damning emails in the comment section. I now have someone trying to go through & "debunk" or "delegitimize" each particular email. It's pretty funny, in a sad way.

There are at least some genuine people asking about what the leak entails, as they don't have any idea. So it's good to know I can inform some, which is the only reason I post there, nowadays.

October 14, 2016 - 10:24

Gabriel Carter

Thanks! I did a Pipl search on the "Warning to Hillary" email & found it's Brent Budowsky. After a CTR shit claimed it was just a "democratic supporter" & likened it to "a fan writing to Kanye". What a retard.

Anyone have suggestions for better people search engines, etc?

October 14, 2016 - 10:26

Aiden Nguyen

LOL, they have to manipulate even her! She must be a difficult puppet to work with.

October 14, 2016 - 10:27

Noah Davis

lmao

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October 14, 2016 - 10:28

Joshua Fisher

I have to use duckduckgo now when I search anything political. Or if I want to stream something. Google is such shite.

October 14, 2016 - 10:29

Jace Garcia

Good points. How I wish she were running against a more competent politician, because we'd know for sure that she'd lose.

I come from a southern state with a good amount of democrats. She tied in KY with S█████ & lost in WV because of the worker's vote. That was heartening to see, at least; despite the rigging.

And after thinking about it, I remember how critical the religious vote was in 2000. My mother, a lifetime dem, voted for Bush. Everyone in the church(in KY) was pushing for it & she was persuaded as he was the "Godly choice", lmao.

Then when 2012 came around, my family Baptist church actually voted to fire the preacher, because he was preaching against racism & wasn't against Obama.

October 14, 2016 - 10:34

Cameron Peterson

We have passed beyond the point of no return.

October 14, 2016 - 10:46

Ian Mitchell

But then the humiliation of the whole establishment and the mockery of democratic system would be lost. Clinton should be winning, yet she's not, that's how much people hate her and what she represents. If you had an establishment opponent, then it would just be boring, Clinton vs. Clinton.

October 14, 2016 - 10:51

Ryder Gomez

Yeah, remember those "She's the only one that can win against Trump" arguments? That makes this even more of a spectacle to behold.

She's struggling against Trump, of all people. And it's always funny when they bring up Trump's "historic unfavorables", because she's so close behind him.

October 14, 2016 - 10:59

Ethan Scott

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/10188

October 14, 2016 - 11:08

Landon Perry

Wtf…

This is why there's such contempt from the workers towards the 1%ers.

This is a fucking joke to them, literally.

October 14, 2016 - 11:15

Ian Brooks

They know there's a problem but every solution is like grabbing butter.

October 14, 2016 - 11:16

Tyler Davis

He's certainly not honest about being a failure of a businessman. In fact Trump's entire business is in deception.

October 14, 2016 - 11:19

Aaron Wilson

I'm a dreamer

October 14, 2016 - 11:19

Joseph Perry

Where the fuck have you been that you seriously missed not only the collusion but the blatant primary rigging that's been going on? Have you seriously even missed these recent emails where Hillary used her influence to rig the primary debate schedule to sabotage moderate Republicans in order to boost Trump?

How are you even getting internet all the way out under your rock?

October 14, 2016 - 11:19

Carter Garcia

You're right, that's why I said "honest." In reality, they're both two scummy little worms that deserve to rot in the furthest, coldest gulag, but Trump is perceived generally as being more honest than Hillary. It's why he can say things like his "shoot a person in the street" line and gain in the polls while Hillary says she wants to raise minimum wage and plummets like a stone. Trump is the devil that the people (feel) they know, and Hillary is the devil that they don't.

October 14, 2016 - 11:22

Christian Long

It's the russian's fault! It's Assange's! Anyone but our Hillary!

October 14, 2016 - 11:29

Zachary Wright

Yes. In the sense that they serve the interests of global capital over their own nations.

October 14, 2016 - 11:37

Luis Thomas

afp.com/en/news/23/obama-warns-democracy-itself-stake-us-election
Obama says that "democracy itself" is at stake in this election

October 14, 2016 - 11:59

Juan Johnson

This must be a joke. What happened to the fifth estate?

October 14, 2016 - 12:00

Julian Nguyen

This is such a stupid meme. Say what you want but he's been a spectacularly successful landlord.

October 14, 2016 - 12:02

Parker Cox

That was always a lie. Even the emails reveal that HRC is one of the weakest candidates they could field and her loss was a forgone conclusion against anyone besides trump, they just had no choice because the DNC leadership had been totally replaced with cronies.

October 14, 2016 - 12:05

Ryan Johnson

Good, bourgeois democracy needs to go.

October 14, 2016 - 12:07

David King

I agree actually. Just not with his reasoning.

October 14, 2016 - 12:09

Ian Roberts

They complain about the "out of touch" meme, then talk about workers like they are a meme.

October 14, 2016 - 12:23

Samuel Johnson

It's pottery

October 14, 2016 - 12:27

Luke Butler

MSM FINALLY REPORTING ABOUT THE LEAKS!!!
archive.fo/anUyF

October 14, 2016 - 12:31

Thomas Garcia

guys, I am very late to the party and I am very sorry to stumble in here and start asking for info handouts, but could someone please help me find the emails most obviously exposing the DNC's plan to force Trump onto the Republicans? this might turn out to be a silver bullet later.

if we can prove to people that the DNC is to blame for Trump's nomination, through their snake-like media manipulation, then the DNC becomes blatantly irredeemable even to normies.

the DNC will be the real Victor Frankenstein.

October 14, 2016 - 12:41

Connor Howard

This behavior by the MSM is inexcusable tbh.

October 14, 2016 - 12:45

Dylan Powell

s.telegraph.co.uk/graphics/projects/americas-mirror/

October 14, 2016 - 12:49

Grayson Morales

Sorry, copied the wrong link…
observer.com/2016/10/wikileaks-reveals-dnc-elevated-trump-to-help-clinton/

October 14, 2016 - 12:50

John Harris

Wow, I guess they could only go with "nothing to see here, move along citizen" style articles like for so long

October 14, 2016 - 12:53

Jaxon Mitchell

thank you kindly.

jesus christ, what a time to be alive.

October 14, 2016 - 12:54

Kayden James

It just hit me how horrifying Clinton's neo-McCarthyism is.

This election is like choosing between cyanide and arsenic.

October 14, 2016 - 12:56

Liam Sanchez

I don't know, I think its funnier that she probably doesn't even believe it. Say what you want about McCarthy and his follower, but at least they seemed to genuinely believe Communists in high places were undermining American society.

While for Clinton it's probably just a cynical exercise in distracting attention from the links - and five months from now President Clinton will probably be haranguing truculent Republicans for not supporting her deal with Putin over Syria

October 14, 2016 - 13:04

Ryan Young

I hate to link to reddit, but there's plenty of weaponized autism there.

check r/dncleaks, r/hillaryforprison, /r/the_donald, /r/conspiracy

They seem to be the ones really digging deep into this shit.

October 14, 2016 - 13:05

Brayden Smith

The Risotto article is the only leak related submission to make it to the front of /r/politics. The vast, vast majority of submissions have been about Trump. Generally anti-trump, even to the detriment of pro-Hillary articles.

I checked it the other day, ctrl-f, and 89/100 submissions had "Trump" in the title. It's insane. The leaks have them running scared and CTR is going whole hog with this shit.

October 14, 2016 - 13:07

Hudson Campbell

CLASS WAR NOW

October 14, 2016 - 13:09

Joshua White

Yeah, I'm amazed at how willfully redditors can deny what's right in front of them, i.e. cherrypicking one or two comments on how she would "like" universal healthcare into WTF? YEAH, MAN, I CAN TOTALLY SEE HOW THESE LEAKS ARE KILLING HER CAMPAIGN, BECAUSE UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE TOTALLY ISN'T HELLA AWESOME

October 14, 2016 - 13:10

Joshua Sanchez

The irony.

October 14, 2016 - 13:11

Ryder Edwards

Wikileaks' Twitter also has great revelations sent out in specific tweets. Go to their Twitter page directly.

October 14, 2016 - 13:11

Christopher White

About promoting Trump in the primaries… I actually remember thinking how absurd and unusual it is that they're talking about Trump so much. I didn't really suspect anything, just stupid media becoming way too obsessed with ratings. I mean, Trump wasn't on their side, so why would they be giving him all this publicity? It has never crossed my mind that someone could be so cynical to actually be promoting him just because he's an easier target in the generals.

October 14, 2016 - 13:12

Daniel Roberts

...

October 14, 2016 - 13:19

Zachary Evans

Wikileaks just retweeted this.
twitter.com/hardball/status/787007684172283904

Check out the comments.

October 14, 2016 - 13:21

Easton Hill

...

October 14, 2016 - 13:23

William Bennett

It sounds like conspiracy theory, pushed by the usual contrarians on chans. Then it turns out to be the truth.

Seems the DNC created TWO monsters: a disgusting richie rich princeling cheered on by racists, and an even more disgusting media.

October 14, 2016 - 13:25

Jacob Collins

>wolfonthehill [email protected]/* */ 1h1 hour ago

tinfoilers BTFO

October 14, 2016 - 13:26

Asher Richardson

Leave this place & take your shitty Office memes with you.

October 14, 2016 - 13:28

Gavin Murphy

But that's pretty much all the replies to that tweet in a nutshell - a combination of "This isn't even news" and "Trump's still much worse!"

October 14, 2016 - 13:32

Christopher Brown

Lmao, sorry man. Poe's law kinda got me on that one.

And I'm stealing that pic, at least.

October 14, 2016 - 13:34

Lucas Murphy

It is amazing, too, to see that they're not even denying it anymore. Now that there's proof of everything, they're just saying, "this is just how politics works", "Trump is worse".

Same after the DNC leaks. First, we were tinfoil hatters. Then when rigging was proven it was, "well duh, B████ not tru democrap hurr so of gourse it happened"

October 14, 2016 - 13:37

Jaxson Reed

I can just imagine Jeb drinking alone in his mansion muttering "Fucking George…" When the butler brings him another fifth of forty year old scotch he tosses his sifter on the cashmere carpet and yells, "It was supposed to be my turn first!"

October 14, 2016 - 13:42

Matthew Williams

To be fair, we're at a point now where it's been months and months of constant banning and censorship driving away all but the thickest or most sycophantic redditors in places like /r/politics. It's to the point now where the majority of dissenting voices have been banned, and what's left are drowned out by the tremendously active bloc of CTR shills.

And if you point this out, even in the most innocent of ways, it's a banning for you.

October 14, 2016 - 13:49

Isaac Perry

reddit.com/r/DNCleaks/comments/57ibll/bill_clinton_and_cronies_caught_stealing_from_the/.compact

Ira said Scott Henderson could help. I said Scott H already has been involved since Day One.

Ira said he personally will get more involved and he had some ideas for hiring a finance person (which I said we thought of long ago and agree on doing but we were thinking pro-bono)

I told Ira I'd download all of this with you. I got the impression that unless we go back and say "no" on any of this, Ira feels he has WJC's blessing to move ahead. I'd welcome your feedback. Thanks, Ami

[…]

What are they talking about, taking money from pensions and giving it to governors for projects? Who's pensions? This sounds crazy.

WEW

October 14, 2016 - 13:53

Brandon Anderson

youtube.com/watch?v=abfLDg_7Hjo
(Note: this video is NOT a caricature of contemporary politics.)

October 14, 2016 - 13:55

Jose Parker

laffo

October 14, 2016 - 14:00

Andrew Lopez

here ya go.

for sauce,

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/1120

then click on attachments tab

cap is from the PDF

October 14, 2016 - 14:01

Michael Watson

Poor yeb D:

October 14, 2016 - 14:02

John Perez

Lmao no, a peacemaker Clinton is not.

October 14, 2016 - 14:10

Robert Turner

I don't have any words for this.

October 14, 2016 - 14:15

Dominic Taylor

It's a little shocking given that they broke the Snowden leaks. Iirc they've undergone a major editorial shift since then.

October 14, 2016 - 14:19

Kevin Price

It's not about making peace. McCarthy actually believed the shit he spewed, religiously so. He went out of his way to destroy thousands of peoples' careers on his own personal crusade to "protect" America.

Hilary is blaming Russia in order to save her own career. It's very shortsighted, because if she did actually become President she would have no way to split up a Russia-Chinese bloc (problem giving rising tensions in the South Pacific) and Russia wouldn't give ANY fucks about diplomacy (at least, more so than now).

October 14, 2016 - 14:20

Connor Ramirez

I do.

October 14, 2016 - 14:20

Noah Lewis

...

October 14, 2016 - 14:26

Jayden Miller

Play with fire, get burned. Regardless if Trump wins or looses, the DNC have created something much larger. Nobody other than old boomers supports them, meanwhile everyone else is working against them. The entire question here is if it will work for Hilary, but every other Democrat gets fucked too (guilty by association). The Dems will either have to eviscerate themselves and ditch globalism, or watch the Republicans kick out the chair.

October 14, 2016 - 14:27

Luke Wood

Right? Yebbo seems like the kid that wants to be a dancer or paint flowers or something, but his overbearing father pressures him into trying out for the football team. He hates it. He hates every second of it. The macho atmosphere, the competition, the brutality–he'd rather be at home working on his model planes. That Fw 190 was coming along so nice. Just one more coat of paint and it'll be fit for inspection, the pride of the Luftwaffe.

But he doesn't have the time. It's not enough to just join the team. He's gotta be the quarterback. Team captain even. Why? Because it's what his father expects. Hell, your brother was captain of the team. What, you don't want the neighbors to think you're a faggot, do you, Jeb? No son of mine 's gonna be a called a pussy. I fought in The Pacific, fer Christ's sake. What would your grandfather think? His brother's aren't any help. Faggot is the least of what they call him already. So morning, noon, and night it's work, work, work, practicing to fill that quarterback's jersey.

Sure, it pays off. The constant pressure compresses his entire personality into a finite point that shines like a diamond. Everyone's impressed. Yep, just like his brothers, his teachers and tutors say with an approving nod. He carries the team to victory after victory. His peers are impressed. Gosh, isn't that Jeb somethin'. He even carries the team to the championship.

The night before the big game his father takes him aside. This is it, the brass ring. I'm countin' on you, son. No one wants it as bad as Jeb. He's out there on that field, playin' his heart out, and it's his final masterpiece play that secures the big win. Everyone's ecstatic. Finally's he's got dad's respect, just like his brothers. He's made it.

After all the celebration, when they find his body the next morning he's hanging by his throat in his closet with his grandfather's Yale tie. He leaves no note behind, just his unfinished models. When his father gets sick of looking at them, he has Juanita throw them in the trash. Maybe if he hadn't been such a faggot he wouldn't have done something so embarrassing.

October 14, 2016 - 14:27

Bentley Lewis

Police state America: trofire.com/2016/10/13/documentary-filmmaker-faces-45-years-prison-covering-pipeline-protest/

October 14, 2016 - 14:29

Owen Diaz

where'd you rip this from?

October 14, 2016 - 14:31

Julian Jackson

my brain

October 14, 2016 - 14:32

Aiden Bennett

poor yeb :(

October 14, 2016 - 14:34

Adrian Ward

Watch these two one after another for maximum effect:
youtu.be/y0U0wGAlpgM?t=6m21s
youtube.com/watch?v=4Zt7bl5Z_oA

October 14, 2016 - 14:35

Brandon Roberts

As much sympathy I have for these people, by the time pipelines hit the design-build phase it's already too late.

The entire reason these things are made is because states, especially California, are dumping nuclear power for gas. It's why PG&E is building new pipelines down south, with San Onorefe closing down Socal is getting five or six new gas plants to compensate. The California Air Resources Board don't care because utility companies are above the law (example: PG&E's "fine" for the San Bruno pipeline explosion). If pipeline customers are taken out, then pipelines will have no use.

October 14, 2016 - 14:45

Andrew Rodriguez

She's wasn't protesting, she was filming the protests for a documentary. This is apparently already too dangerous.

October 14, 2016 - 14:47

Luis Davis

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3609

Don't you dare deviate even a little bit from standard liberal politics.

October 14, 2016 - 14:52

Elijah Reed

They covered the pre-convention DNC leaks very strongly. Right now though? Pure silence. Hilarious.

October 14, 2016 - 14:56

Jackson Smith

kill yourself classcuck

October 14, 2016 - 14:57

Andrew Long

One does not simply get a felony conspiracy charge without somehow being involved. So I don't consider her innocent especially when Hollywood celebs are backing her.

But her motivations were just, though this is another example as to why pacifism does not work. If she had stood her ground (you can buy any sort of rifle you want in SD no problem, and the federal ban on full auto guns does not apply to indian reservations) then she would have had marginally more success (dead police send a huge message to anyone who would want to build a pipeline in the future).

The root of all of this are private utility companies. They're the ones that cause this because they conspire to keep fossil fuels as America's primary source of electricity. If they were nationalized, a fully green power grid could actually happen. This is a thing that needs to be fought with local Assemblymen inside state legislatures, not in the field. Because if it gets to that stage, the only thing that matters is whoever has the most guns.

October 14, 2016 - 14:58

Brody Russell

I wonder how many aides it took to write that email.

October 14, 2016 - 15:02

Alexander Nguyen

Thanks for sharing this

October 14, 2016 - 15:06

Luis Allen

Lmao, where did you come from?

Yes, the US would never wrongfully charge or jail someone.

Better late than never.

October 14, 2016 - 15:09

Hunter Williams

Somehow socialism is too insane though

October 14, 2016 - 15:11

Kayden Nguyen

Because it'll never work

October 14, 2016 - 15:12

Dominic Williams

I mean, it's like Marx never even thought of human nature.

Like, hello?

October 14, 2016 - 15:13

Julian Moore

For example: she could have walked into a Walmart and bought every protester their own AR15 and 100 rounds of ammunition. 5 people is a terrorist cell the Sheriff can deal with, 50 is a platoon the US Marshals would wrangle (ala Waco) and 500 is a battalion, which would cause a crisis and require the National Guard. 5,000 (just over the half of Standing Rock's population) is a bona fide Militia that would require the federal military (and the President) to get directly involved.

Admittedly this would be expensive, but it's certainly plausible. Here in America you can buy entire crates of Russian guns.

October 14, 2016 - 15:13

Noah Martin

Couldn't have said it better myself.

October 14, 2016 - 15:14

Xavier Sanchez

reddit.com/r/HillaryForPrison/comments/57iv8p/in_violation_of_feca_precampaign_campaigning/.compact

October 14, 2016 - 15:15

Juan Green

wtf is up with that "Buy"

October 14, 2016 - 15:15

Hudson Anderson

Whatever you say friend. Please go back to praising the fascistic retard rapist.

October 14, 2016 - 15:18

Isaiah Parker

twitter.com/johnpodesta/status/786988264985100288
have you seen this shit yet?
this is how they're reacting to the emails, total dismissal.

October 14, 2016 - 15:24

John Martinez

...

October 14, 2016 - 15:25

Isaiah Harris

HIVEMIND

October 14, 2016 - 15:25

Cooper Thompson

Mosin crates are typically sold online, and online (and mail order) gun sales have to be sent to an FFL dealer for pickup (this is to ensure compliance with local state laws, and that the buyer is over 18 and not a felon). This isn't an issue with Mosins as they are 50-state guns. It applies to SKSes too:

classicfirearms.com/yugo-sks-for-sale

Worth mentioning: Indian reservations set their own gun laws. Their government, as it's a government, can just buy any type of gun they want (legit M-16s, SMGs, LMGs, anything) directly from defense contractors. Citizens can legally possess them, if the tribal government is allowed. Which is to say they could have bought truckloads of guns and ammo and force the federal government to intervene. Regardless of the outcome, it would give future gas companies cold feet on new pipeline projects.

October 14, 2016 - 15:25

Jason Hall

Woah, the Ecuadorians are not gonna like that.

October 14, 2016 - 15:27

Dylan Sullivan

*if the tribal government allows it

October 14, 2016 - 15:27

Nolan Jackson

Yeah, but to be fair they did start talking seriously about the leaks now:

October 14, 2016 - 15:28

Jacob Reed

...

October 14, 2016 - 15:28

Robert Richardson

What the fuck. This is the third in a series of mocking tweets.

YOU THINK THIS IS A GAME, MOTHERFUCKER?

"Let them eat risotto"
- Podesta 2016

October 14, 2016 - 15:30

Jaxson Ward

Of course they are. "The Russians are behind it!" line didn't work, "The Russians could've edited them!" line didn't work, so now they're pushing either outright denial or claiming that Trump is still worse

October 14, 2016 - 15:30

Benjamin Thomas

Wait what? No way.

October 14, 2016 - 15:31

Christopher Scott

Eh, wikileaks beat me to the punchline.

October 14, 2016 - 15:31

Juan Lee

thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/wikileaks-uncover-murder-plot-podesta-documents-suggest-scalia-assassination/

October 14, 2016 - 15:35

Ryder Thomas

#banter

But seriously, he's scum and his career is over at this point. Even if Hilary wins, nobody is going to trust him with anything remotely important.

October 14, 2016 - 15:36

Kevin Fisher

Also the email was sent three days before Scalia's death.

It's all a bit conspiritorial, but its a pretty amazing coincidence if it wasn't

October 14, 2016 - 15:36

Joseph Thomas

Hilary would, and then we'd get a whole other set of leaks before the 2020 election.

October 14, 2016 - 15:36

Christopher Edwards

holy shit, Comrade Dore is getting more radical by the day

October 14, 2016 - 15:39

Nolan Hernandez

Can someone tell me what speech this is that Hillary's making. It's downright unbelievable & I want to watch it in its entirety.

October 14, 2016 - 15:40

James Cox

This. If the DWS mess and these emails are any indication she's so out-of-touch she might as well be in her own world. Like the FBI declining to prosecute her over the emails, if she's elected she'll probably feel vindicated that not enough Americans cared about the leaks anyway

October 14, 2016 - 15:42

Samuel Turner

...

October 14, 2016 - 15:49

Robert Foster

"[Shillary] was speaking on the campaign trial at the American Legion National Conference in Cincinnati, Ohio on 31 August"
youtube.com/watch?v=Rfm4unbyHV0

I'm sure it's generally boring as hell. It's like watching a feature length commercial full of statements that don't say anything.

October 14, 2016 - 15:53

Liam Martin

Holy fuck it took me a few minutes after watching it to realise I should check if it was a film or not. America has lost the plot, it's not even in the realms of humourous when you consider the amount of projecting Americans do onto Europeans.

October 14, 2016 - 16:09

Adam Thompson

His line "there's revolution coming and it's not going to be the one you want" is great.
Soft leftists assume that they are the only forces of change, so they have the time. No, the system is rushing to its self-destruction and it's going to take us with it if we're not prepared. Optimism makes people too passive and pacified, at least pessimism (not resignation) produces a sense of urgency and a need for well thought-out strategy.

October 14, 2016 - 16:15

Liam King

Ralph Nader on TeleSUR today talking about the elections:

youtube.com/watch?v=AsJFcEypfuA

October 14, 2016 - 16:27

Colton Bell

...

October 14, 2016 - 16:35

Nathan Ross

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/9772#efmAAGAEY

Is Podesta ex-CIA??

October 14, 2016 - 16:55

Levi Edwards

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/2372

October 14, 2016 - 16:58

Bentley Moore

This is from DNC emails:
…
They play real dirty, these Clintons.

October 14, 2016 - 17:24

Jason Lee

Forgot link: wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/12803

October 14, 2016 - 17:24

Adam Hall

You, by definition, are a normie.

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/

There is literally nothing stopping any of you from looking. But it's easier to just have someone on Twitter spoon feed you filtered bits and pieces now isn't it.

October 14, 2016 - 17:36

Justin Powell

Fascinating how those smears about him and his country club or whatever line up perfectly with these.

October 14, 2016 - 17:37

James Thomas

jacobinmag.com/2016/10/donald-trump-women-sexism-clinton-ivanka/
Trump and Women: A Marxist Critique
I know Jacobin is really hit or miss but the last three paragraphs here are breddy gud

October 14, 2016 - 17:50

Landon Flores

Fuck right off. I've been losing massive amounts of sleep from digging through these emails this past week, sharing them & though it's basically futile, posting them on reddit tirelessly so normies can be exposed to them somehow, since the media isn't. I was trying to find common ground with that poster.

October 14, 2016 - 17:53

Nathaniel Jenkins

Some brilliant responses on Twitter:

October 14, 2016 - 17:54

Brody Carter

twitter.com/hollybdc/status/787007524708941824

Alright which one of you faggots was this?

October 14, 2016 - 17:57

Blake Morales

If you want to have an impact, collect all the emails that involve labor and email them to local union bosses (ie the elected manager). Most will ignore them, but might as well sow the seeds of dissent or be the spark to the fire.

October 14, 2016 - 18:01

Zachary Jones

That's just "Correct The Record" in damage control.

October 14, 2016 - 18:03

Lucas Diaz

I wish.

October 14, 2016 - 18:03

Hudson Parker

Lmao

:^) But seriously, we have bigger fish to fry right now. And we've been coming together to dig on these emails. Let's not spoil it.

October 14, 2016 - 18:05

Jack Adams

Sadly, my state is KY, and unions are largely gone there. But I will look some up. That's a very useful idea.

October 14, 2016 - 18:07

Adam Baker

If you find a union worth their salt, tell them to to take the workplace over if the managers/bosses threaten to leave and turn into a coop. Literally seizing the means of production.

October 14, 2016 - 18:10

Mason Gutierrez

¿Y por qué son todas las respuestas en espanol?

October 14, 2016 - 18:12

Isaac Thompson

outsourcing of CTR

October 14, 2016 - 18:15

Asher Gomez

i don't actually get what happened

October 14, 2016 - 18:18

Lucas Hernandez

Ah, entiendo

October 14, 2016 - 18:19

Hunter Rodriguez

...

October 14, 2016 - 18:27

Ayden Parker

for a second I thought he snapped his neck like in a movie lol

October 14, 2016 - 18:28

Ian Turner

But yeah, I guess there's teacher's unions, etc, too

October 14, 2016 - 18:47

Justin Walker

I mean, it's not like conspiracy theory is something Hillary isn't used to. Remember the "Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy"? (Granted there was a grain of truth to that but still)

But assuming she didn't believe it at all, would she really just drop the whole McCarthyite act once she became President? Could she? I mean, these are serious charges she's throwing out, probably coming close to treason, and it's clear she really does not like a lot of these people.

October 14, 2016 - 18:56

Adrian Nguyen

Mark my words, B████ ██████ will be the only Democrat that will get out of this mess unscathed.

October 14, 2016 - 19:06

Sebastian Rivera

Lovable "Ken Bone" not so lovable any longer

cnn.it/2efVutY

CNN is now discarding him like a piece of trash after reading his old Reddit posts.

October 14, 2016 - 19:16

Mason Rivera

lel

October 14, 2016 - 19:22

Ian Lee

Is he our guy, Holla Forums?

October 14, 2016 - 19:40

Levi Perez

And that's how you destroy a man.

Although I'm hoping it will at least partly destroy CNN too.

October 14, 2016 - 19:42

Bentley Miller

If Jennifer Lawrence is anime and also has a cock, then yeah.

October 14, 2016 - 19:48

Aiden Barnes

If that's what's considered dirt these days I've got a couple hard-drives to wipe and few server-farms to burn down.

October 14, 2016 - 19:49

Connor Davis

well now we know how they decide who goes in those cabinets

October 14, 2016 - 19:53

Cooper Barnes

Wew, what's so horrifying about the comments he made? I mean Jesus, the Daily Hail runs articles more offensive every day.

October 14, 2016 - 19:54

Liam Russell

...

October 14, 2016 - 19:57

Christopher Kelly

I mean, he aced his AMA. He was out-memeing everyone.

October 14, 2016 - 19:58

Mason Hill

The Daily Beast is also trashing him.

Love Ken Bone? Yeah, you might want to read this.

twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/786954534560133121
thebea.st/2dZvSCT

October 14, 2016 - 20:03

Liam Wood

So, a victimless crime and him basically pointing out the facts of the matter

How horrible

October 14, 2016 - 20:08

Christian Walker

All dese porky-fellating spooks

October 14, 2016 - 20:16

Ryder Parker

Maybe this is some Zizekian-tier contrarianism, or just Zizekian-tier shitty thinking, but since there's a zero percent chance he will win next month shouldn't we on some level view Trump as a hero? I mean, he self-imploded his billion dollar exploitative business/brand, single-handedly destroyed the GOP and exposed millions of cryptofascists around the country whom for decades to come will be viewed as the laughingstock of the nation. Sure, he helped engender the rise of the alt-right, but just like the Tea Party these paper tigers will be thrown into the dustbin of history in a couple years. Hillary was going to be president with or without him, so we can't entirely blame him for further entrenching neoliberal capitalism in the west. That is a fight the left will have to continue on our own. And hell, maybe after a few years of ridicule and propagandizing we can convince some of the more impressionable Trump supporters to take up that fight alongside us. I've personally already converted a few.

October 14, 2016 - 20:25

Eli Cruz

Just admit you like Hillary Clinton, stop being so sheepish and concern troll-y

October 14, 2016 - 20:26

Dominic Miller

This pic is making the rounds, apparently the site he died at had a vineyard and a big pool.

October 14, 2016 - 20:28

Landon Bailey

Wow, CTR's gaslighting techniques are getting pretty good. I'm impressed.

October 14, 2016 - 20:29

Sebastian Mitchell

No need to call it zizek tier if you don't actually know anything about theory. just call it retarded, retard.

October 14, 2016 - 20:29

James Rivera

"Zizekian-tier" implies retarded, since Zizek is retarded.

October 14, 2016 - 20:39

Eli Evans

...

October 14, 2016 - 20:43

Justin Mitchell

Do you agree with Jill here?

October 14, 2016 - 20:47

Jeremiah Ross

he'll be an influential thinker well in the future, and you'll die a stupid fag who posted shit on the internet. don't bring others down to your level.

October 14, 2016 - 20:47

Julian Lee

Annoying

Anyway how is that damaging? I don't think anyone can deny that Zimmerman was, in fact, legally justified in killing Trayvon Martin. Is that not the very heart of the issue?

October 14, 2016 - 20:48

Henry Jackson

Should just force living-wage on the private sector as well.

October 14, 2016 - 20:48

Carter Myers

just abolish the private sector tbh

October 14, 2016 - 20:49

Ayden Barnes

For some reason them shitting all over this random guy for being a real human with a personality is getting me very worked up.

October 14, 2016 - 20:54

Blake Lee

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

Unions. Build them up. They work.

October 14, 2016 - 20:55

Aaron Hughes

It's because what you are essentially watching is a pack of dead eyed vultures gorging on the flesh of tiny, still weakly bahhing lamb.

He even used his main account for the AMA… Sweet Summer Child.

October 14, 2016 - 21:10

Brody King

I think CNN & Daily Beast are trying to get back at us for spreading these leaks by trying to destroy one of our own, guys.

NOT ON MY WATCH

They're in fact just making him more memeable.

October 14, 2016 - 21:11

Carter Walker

...

October 14, 2016 - 21:13

Julian Gonzalez

I thought the same.. Always a throw away.

October 14, 2016 - 21:17

Andrew Turner

lel, 20X gold

reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/57dw9a/im_american_citizen_undecided_voter_loving/

October 14, 2016 - 21:19

Michael Allen

...

October 14, 2016 - 21:26

Kayden Clark

It's not just that. It's that the CNN prototype of the American Voter is not supposed to be a real person but a completely anodyne liberal that always waits to receive consensus opinions and never shows a spark of humor or candor, and that's the only kind of person you can be or be denounced as a *bad person* on a national stage, I guess.

October 14, 2016 - 21:29

Ayden Bennett

twitter.com/RichardBSpencer/status/787080597957029888
twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/786981437501091840

October 14, 2016 - 21:40

Angel James

I don't see the issue. That thug was trying to beat Zimmerman to death. Granted that knucklehead shouldn't have been stalking people in his neighborhood with a gun, but it was justified.

October 14, 2016 - 21:41

Isaac Butler

I know that's about the time wages stopped following productivity growth and a whole swath of problems started appearing.

October 14, 2016 - 21:43

Thomas Gonzalez

Setting it all aside, I would like the writer of the daily beast article to answer the question for me: Was the killing of Trayvon Martin by George Zimmerman illegal?

October 14, 2016 - 21:46

Sebastian Garcia

I know that's when the post-Gilded Age protectionist regime of trade tariffs and immigration quotas was obliterated.

October 15, 2016 - 01:12

Wyatt Lopez

As a Jill supporter I'm happy to see this. But it really baffles me what their motivation.

Jill is way more left than Hillary is, so it can't be her policies. She doesn't trade on white supremacy like Trump does so it can't be that.

Is it hatred of women? I guess not because Jill is a woman too.

Jill will do more to help minorities and women then Hillary would ever do in 100 years so it's not racism.

Are they just so brainwashed to hate Hillary like a pack of Pavlovian dogs that they will vote for someone that will reject white supremacy EVEN MORE than Hillary would?

October 15, 2016 - 01:35

Colton Nelson

They're probably hoping she'll split the democratic vote or something.

October 15, 2016 - 01:38

Jaxon Edwards

TRUMP DINDU NUFFIN

October 15, 2016 - 04:05

Connor Morris

this

October 15, 2016 - 04:37

Easton Campbell

1) Bravery: People like Nader, [REDACTED], and Stein aren't afraid to state their intentions loudly, openly, and sincerely. This is much like what attracted both rightists and many leftists or centrists to Perot, Paul, and Trump.
2) Commitment: Even if the agenda of her and those like her is in disagreement with rightists', it is consistent from one moment to the next, and forms a complete logical platform rather than a mishmash of internally nonsensical focus-group pablum.
3) Actual policy: Whether due to some inherent appeal from their obvious validity to populists, or perhaps coincidence between two countercultural groups opposing the same establishment, there is some ideological overlap. Stopping pointless wars, reining in the wasteful profligacy of big government/corporations/churchs, halting transnational globalism, restoring prosperity and cultural prestige to the hardworking middle class, or even just putting lawless corruption and crime under the magnifying glass. Those and many other issues are the subject of broadly similar policies from the far right and far left.
4) Sheer contrarianism: If nothing else, the enemy of my enemy is my friend, and everyone knows we need all the help we can get to topple the two-party system.
5) d00d w33d: lmao

October 15, 2016 - 04:39

Leo Williams

Clinton is objectively a bad choice. She will do more than any other candidate to extend neo-liberalism. The right hate neo-lib cause globalism. The left cause capitalism. Plus Clinton is a warmonger. The left haven't listened to the right who've been screaming this since Clinton stood as Dem candidate. Maybe they'll listen when one of their own says it.

October 15, 2016 - 04:45

Isaac Brooks

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3216#efmAJxALf

October 15, 2016 - 07:03

Logan Torres

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/5423

This ends now

October 15, 2016 - 07:28

Blake Brown

But you got them to adopt the most progressive platform in decades! You B████ bros are so entitled. Isn't that enough for you?

October 15, 2016 - 07:30

Carson Reyes

Not sure what you're bringing up and why…

Unions are just a mechanism for labor to get their fair share of capital and labor's joint enterprise's profits.

The way it's now… Pic related.

October 15, 2016 - 07:37

Nathaniel Gonzalez

It's weird how Clinton supporters were responding with some variation of "you B████ Bros can't take yes for an answer" and "you're being conspiratorial" when the left was saying that the platform "victory" would end up being utterly meaningless during a Clinton presidency. And, now that we have evidence the platform was a meaningless concession, it's old news, just like the rigging of the primary itself.

October 15, 2016 - 07:38

Xavier Sanders

This must be bridge burning material for the B████ supporters still wavering on the Clinton vote.

October 15, 2016 - 07:45

Mason Baker

thats not trump
thats photoshopped pictures of a gorilla

October 15, 2016 - 07:59

Robert Richardson

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/?3&q=&mfrom=&mto=&title=¬itle=&date_from=&date_to=&nofrom=¬o=&count=50&sort=6#searchresult

PODESTA EMAILS PART 8

October 15, 2016 - 08:02

Alexander Phillips

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/10252

Right off the bat, Podesta's American Express details

October 15, 2016 - 08:03

Jaxon Mitchell

No, that's Trump photoshopped into a gorilla.

pls senpai, I want to get off this train.

October 15, 2016 - 08:04

Ayden Cox

Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.

October 15, 2016 - 08:09

Nicholas Taylor

bbc.com/news/technology-37316615

Two Americans have been arrested and charged for allegedly helping to hack high-ranking US government officials.

The US Department of Justice said Andrew Otto Boggs and Justin Gray Liverman were part of the "Crackas With Attitude" group blamed for the attacks.

Email accounts of the CIA's director, the chief of National Intelligence and many others, were hit by the group.

It also stole and published details of 29,000 FBI and Homeland Security agents and workers.
Overseas aid

Court documents, written by FBI agents who aided the investigation, revealed that the hackers tricked technical support staff into giving them access to the sensitive email accounts.

The hackers also posed as technicians from ISPs and other service companies to get passwords re-set so they could take over accounts and get at federal computer systems. All the attacks took place in early 2016.

Sensitive messages and documents found by the attackers through the hacked email accounts were published online.

The two men have been accused of taking part in a criminal conspiracy and are due to appear in court next week.

Tech news site Ars Tech prosecutors involved in the case are also pursuing at least three more members of the Crackas With Attitude group. All three are believed to be teenagers who live in the UK. The Crown Prosecution Service is understood to be investigating their alleged part in the attacks.

Court documents suggest the CWA members living overseas placed the calls that led to accounts being taken over.

October 15, 2016 - 08:16

Jonathan Lewis

wikileaks.com/podesta-emails/emailid/11011

3 GOLDMAN SACHS SPEECHES IN ATTACHMENTS

October 15, 2016 - 08:46

Levi Taylor

wew

October 15, 2016 - 08:55

Julian Lopez

Back to Holla Forums

October 15, 2016 - 09:03

Alexander Hall

To be fair the recent allegations scream fake to me. The Clintons know how this smear game works after Bill, it's only natural that they would level claims Trump can't reasonably respond to in order to spread FUD.

There is no doubt in my mind that Trump is a creep and rapist for a whole lot of other reasons (evidence has been out there for years), but that doesn't preclude the specific allegations being obvious political hatchet jobs. If they were genuine, we'd have heard about them during primaries, because for sure Republican oppo research would have dug for them.

October 15, 2016 - 09:19

John Flores

But you have the emails, right Julian?

October 15, 2016 - 09:23

Gabriel Perez

See, this is a good point you make. And normally, that'd make sense, but this election they've been incompetent. I mean after all, they couldn't find the pussygate video.

October 15, 2016 - 09:45

Liam Phillips

Highlights from speech 1:
-Xi Jinping is trying to rein in the PLA
-Most Chinese officials have their children in American universities
-Rising nationalism in China and Japan are leading to tensions, that "the rhetoric coming from top Chinese officials concerning the Japanese was really vicious"
-China is starting to experience and come to grips with the effects of a neoliberal economy
-Clinton admits that "there is only so much things like enterprises can do, that there are limits to pushing down wages, to the real estate bubble"
-China opposes a unified Korea, but NK is as much a liability as an asset
-Clinton admits the US doesn't want a unified Korea either
-The PLA have been encouraging NK's aggressive behavior due to strong ties between Chinese and NK military leadership
-Part of the reason for "ringing China with missile defenses" is US anxiety about NK ICBM program
-the Abe government in Japan is grappling with nationalist forces and politicians that are threatening to upset the status quo
-Russia views Syria as a sort of Chechnya and that opposition to Assad's government must be absolutely crushed
-American policy in the Middle East is schizophrenic because they have no idea who their allies and enemies are and so they can't develop long term goals or policies
-Most Syrian AA emplacements are in heavily populated civilian areas and creating a "no-fly zone" is going to lead to heavy civilian casualties
-There's also danger of releasing chemical stockpiles located by AA emplacements
-Iran can't have nuclear weapons because that means Saudi Arabia will want weapons, and UAE, and Egypt, and so on
-Iran tried to get a drug dealer to murder the Saudi ambassador
-Israel thinks any sort of delay to the Iranian nuclear program is worth any sort of diplomatic (or otherwise) fallout
-There's alot of anxiety about rising nationalism in Europe and what might happen if a nationalist government comes to power
-NATO is being starved of resources due to European budget cuts
-Hillary wants "a return to evidence-based decisions"
-The biggest danger to either party is "facing a primary opponent from the far right or the far left"
-There was never any guarantee that the US wouldn't default on its debts
-The unprecedented partisanship in politics is being driven by lobbyist groups such as the NRA
-At the time of this speech in 2013 she claimed to not be entertaining thoughts of running for president
-"The political press has been captured by trivia."
-some idiot wants to remove posse comitatus
-"I would love if we could build a more positive relationship with Russia."
-Putin rejected working on a shared missile defense plan with the US "out of hand"

October 15, 2016 - 09:50

Brayden Powell

Looks like Amy Goodman of Democracy Now is gonna turn herself in to the pigs over her North Dakota arrest warrant.

youtube.com/watch?v=CrfEasDnfGM

October 15, 2016 - 09:52

Parker Thomas

My assumption was that the Clinton campaign was essentially just sitting on these women, and that Access Hollywood tape, for use as an october surprise. They're probably just going to dripfeed these things out one after another, until election day. Their plan is probably to turn the right-leaning suburban women and evangelicals against Trump, so that they either go for a third party, or just sit the election out, due to fatigue.

It's actually a pretty smart plan. Trump can't win on just white guys, and he's alienated far too many people on his own, to really be recruiting new supporters now. If the allegations stick, they can do a lot of damage. The tape did a lot of damage. I don't think people actually realize how serious that tape was, to the campaign. I don't personally understand why people are so up in arms about it (moreso than other horrible statements) but they are, and now the Clinton campaign is capitalizing (or following up) on the situation.

October 15, 2016 - 09:54

Kayden Martin

I hope B████ knows that the platform is meaningless and just accepted it so he could have some major ammunition against Hillary after the election.

October 15, 2016 - 10:07

Lincoln White

This. There's undoubtedly more damning footage (producers from apprentice said they have some) and they can keep this up at a steady pace.

Because when he was insulting Mexicans and Muslims, it wasn't a threat to the GOP base. Now he's offended white women which he needs.

October 15, 2016 - 10:14

Jason Young

This genuinely may not matter if the Clinton / Democrat campaign filth continues to grow to the point of public criminality.

October 15, 2016 - 10:21

Jordan Myers

Some might want to vote for him just to prevent "Crooked Hillary" from winning, given these emails. Probably some B████ supporters and some undecideds.

October 15, 2016 - 10:28

Jeremiah Hill

Ken Bone on Reddit claimed fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin 'was justified,' discusses insurance fraud and porn

nydailynews.com/news/national/ken-bone-reddit-claims-trayvon-martin-death-justified-article-1.2830323

Ken Bone has some skeletons in the closet.

Using the handle StanGibson18, the up until now beloved Bone said in a post on the discussion website from four months ago that the 2012 shooting death of Trayvon Martin “was justified.”

In some of his more salacious posts, Bone discusses his liking for pregnant women – who he referred to as “beautiful human submarines” on an NSFW thread called "PreggoPorn" – and the benefits of getting a vasectomy.

“I had mine done 2 years ago. Sexual satisfaction is way up,” Bone wrote. “My wife loves it too…Can’t recommend it enough.”

In another post, the master of the “Bone Zone” admitted to a felony of forging insurance documents so that he could keep a pizza delivery job.

“I forged documents to make it look like I had car insurance so I wouldn’t get fired,” he said. “Can’t say how I did them, I don’t know how long the statute of limitations is on that.”

October 15, 2016 - 10:40

Christian Gutierrez

Definitely a Clinton supporter.

October 15, 2016 - 10:43

Benjamin Myers

Nah, doesn't matter. Trump's theatrics are more entertaining, so corporate media will only cover it. There's a ton of damning stuff in the recent email leaks but its barely gotten airtime.

And as a Muslim, if it wasn't for me following alternative media, there's no way I would've been able to reach the point where I confidently say "Trump and Hillary are just as bad as each other."

October 15, 2016 - 10:45

Nicholas Diaz

Why are they trying so hard to destroy this person?

Ken Bone did literally nothing wrong.

October 15, 2016 - 10:46

Owen Fisher

This guy did not deserve to get famous, but read past the headline. It was clear that he was saying the shooting was legally justified, not morally.

October 15, 2016 - 10:47

Brody Powell

Sounds like quite a despicable person, but you know what you sound like? And all your ilk… all over the "alt news" neo-msm, as well as the msm? You sound like SRS. The original river ditch diggers for 'vote for Hillary, she's progressive, support Obama no matter what, anyone who questions mainstream rhetoric must be shut down by pathos and anything beyond perspectives so vast they're irrelevant - are conspiracy theories and belong to the right!'.

That's what sort of 'mood' you're transmitting to me, as well as many of the 'edgy' posters here.

Hi, SRS. I think you're looking for your brother. He's over at Holla Forums.

October 15, 2016 - 10:50

Asher Taylor

This. It's all non-news.

Let's start looking at those Goldman Sachs speeches instead.
wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/11011
(go to the Attachments tab)

October 15, 2016 - 10:56

Tyler Russell

Politico has a "live blog" putting out the leaks:
politico.com/live-blog-updates/2016/10/john-podesta-hillary-clinton-emails-wikileaks-000011

How popular is politico among Hillary supporters?

October 15, 2016 - 11:13

Adrian Thompson

How much contempt to you have to have for people to consider struggling to keep a pizza delivery job by pretending to have insurance "damning"?

October 15, 2016 - 11:13

Carson Myers

It's more about being out of touch about the problems of the peasants.

October 15, 2016 - 11:18

Anthony Harris

Notice for California anons: if you're a permanent vote-by-mail voter your ballot should arrive soon. Remember to vote NO on 53 and 63.

October 15, 2016 - 11:19

Julian Green

theintercept.com/2016/10/14/aide-planted-anti-bank-comments-in-one-paid-clinton-speech-to-throw-reporters-off-the-scent/

October 15, 2016 - 11:30

Oliver Jenkins

The Intercept is amazing.

October 15, 2016 - 12:07

Isaac Walker

Speech 2
-voters need to stop rewarding candidates that are unwilling to compromise
-Gingrich would "sneak into" the White House to work with Bill Clinton on "welfare reform"
-Hillary "personally likes" Speaker Boehner
-the Speaker for the Republican Caucus needs to figure out a way to "isolate the hardcore, absolute evidence deniers"
-the government shutdowns disrupted American influence by preventing Obama from attending the East-Asia Summit and the Asia-Pacific Economic Committee meetings
-there's "growing discontent" in the Chinese "middle class"
-"there's a lot happening in North Africa and the Middle East, but the real future lies in the Asia-Pacific"
-"No country is better suited to take advantage of what happens in the Asia-Pacific than we are."
-The Pivot to Asia isn't "realizing the continuity that is required to establish policy."
-"There are a lot of proxy battles going on, you know, there's proxy battles between the Saudis and the Iranis and the Jordanians and the Iranians and the Turks and, you know, it goes on and on, and you can look at individual countries and try to sort out who is on what side."
-When Morsi was elected in Egypt, the Egyption government refused to follow the IMF's demands
-Syria is a "multiple-leveled proxy battle," with Saudi Arabia, the Emirates, and Qatar funding Jihadists, Iran interfering via Hezbollah, and Turkey "very active in the beginning"
-SA and "Gutter" (Qatar I assume) have been "more active" in Egypt, Libya, and Syria
-Clinton doubts the sincerity of Iran's "charm offensive" and whether they'll abide any deal they make
-Despite the Iranians saying they aren't interested in nuclear weapons, they continue to insist on having access to the components for nuclear weapons, such as ICBMs capable of carrying miniaturized warheads and building heavy-water reactors capable of enriching weapons-grade Plutonium
-"I mean, if you had a big map here behind us, literally from North America to Southeast Asia, there are so many thoughts, so many bombs, so many arrests that are all traced back to the Iranian revolutionary guard, and their constant efforts to sell (inaudible)."
-The Iranian plan to assassinate the Saudi ambassador to Washington was only thwarted because the cartel enforcer they were lead to and planned to hire was in fact a DEA double agent
-Apparently this is something Iran does pretty often
-Hillary is friends with Warren Buffet
-"You know, I remember having a long conversation with Warren Buffett, who is obviously a friend of mine, but I think he's the greatest investor of our modern era, and he said, you know, I would go and I'd talk to my friends and I'd ask them to explain to me what a default credit swap was, and by the time they got into their fifth minute, I had no idea what they were talking about. And when they got into their tenth minute, I realized they didn't have any idea what they were talking about.
I mean, Alan Greenspan said, I didn't understand at all what they were trading. So I think it's in everybody's interest to get back to a better transparent model."

October 15, 2016 - 12:15

Jonathan Lewis

-Banks aren't "doing what they need to do" because they're "scared of regulations," so "credit is not flowing to restore economic growth"
-Dodd-Frank was just a sop to mollify the angry constituents of legislators and the banks are still grumbling about it
-Wall Street "appreciates" Clinton's "courage" in associating with them after 08
-Clinton starts talking about regulating Wall Street to restore confidence/growth in the economy and the topic is immediately changed
-"She wants to continue to break down legal/cultural barriers to women in the workforce, such as Russian legislation that prevents women from being "miners in Siberia" and laws where women can't inherit from their fathers or husbands
-And then there are the, you know, lingering cultural barriers. And, you know, Angela Merkel last spring, who is a very conservative, cautious politician whom I deeply admire, I think she is an incredible leader, she said she favored a requirement that German companies have 30 percent women on their boards.
Now, when somebody as cautious and conservative as Angela, who I have known for 20 years says that there's a problem. The problem is that (inaudible) is there's not a pipeline, it doesn't have enough people in it, but the fact is that there are a lot of women now who have achieved in their careers, who have a lot of great attributes to contribute to boards, but they're not being sought out, they're not being invited, they're not assuming that role. And the same, you know, in the CEO ranks.
So whether it's legal obstacles, sort of regulatory, judicial obstacles or cultural attitudes, we have to continue to try to remove those."
-"And I don't say this just because, you know, I think it would be wonderful if every girl in the world got the education she needed and the health care she needed and access to credit and politics, I think that would be great, and it's a moral imperative, but it is an economic imperative.
And the work that Goldman has done that the OACD had done, the IMF has done shows unequivocally that we're leaving money on the table at the time of slower-than-hoped-for growth globally. And one of the reasons is that women are not encouraged and permitted in many instances to be full participants in the economy."
-She's aware of how tough things are for young people, but, you know, it sure is great what we accomplished after 9/11
-The Marshall Plan only succeeded because big business so graciously invested the money. No, really, have I mentioned how great Wall Street is?

October 15, 2016 - 12:15

Parker Murphy

The Intercept is nice. Don't for a second think it's a safe haven. Just like (and don't take this as a trashing of wikileaks in general) Assange showed up for an interview on the Colbert report while the pentagon and US state department were "so, so totally looking for him!", the intercept have their own backers with their own contact networks far beyond most.

These are not people who strictly write truth and hold true to their own analysis. They have their snakes in their upstream.

Take them as 'mostly truth', but don't for a second think these outlets are something to ultimately trust.

October 15, 2016 - 12:20

Tyler Butler

Having Siberian female miners would be such a great step towards a feminist utopia.

October 15, 2016 - 12:22

James Jenkins

Based Iranians

October 15, 2016 - 12:28

Aiden Bell

...

October 15, 2016 - 12:31

Bentley Reyes

Speech 3:
-Bill Clinton has contributed to GS, "he increased our budget"
-she describes the controversy over surveillance as a "brouhaha"
-Sub-Saharan Africa is home to some of the fastest growing economies in the world
-It's important for businesses to develop markets of "inclusive prosperity"
-There's increasing cooperation among terrorist groups
-TG have been driven out of Afghanistan and "decimated" in Pakistan, but driven into Somalia and North Africa
-"One of the positives of the last month is getting ahold of the Syria chemical weapons program, which in and of itself is a good, even though it doesn't stop the civil war and the increasing radicalization of a lot of the groups fighting Assad."
-The US is determined to intervene in Syria despite substantial public opposition; "you can't waste your leadership capital," "You have to be careful not to send the wrong message to others, such as Iran."
-"It's imperative that we exploit the [US] oil and gas in an environmentally careful way."
-The US must remain committed to keeping Middle East "oil ceilings" open
-48% of global trade passes through the South China Sea and the US must "push back" against China to "create a balance" and prevent a Chinese "stranglehold" of the region
-Blankfein calls the South China Sea an "unfortunate name," and says "ours is called the Caribbean. They don't call it 'The South United States Sea.'" (*laughter*) Hillary says he might have forgotten about Monroe :^)
-"I think that – you know, one of the greatest arguments that I had on a continuing basis was with my Chinese counterparts about their claim. And I made the point at one point in the argument that, you know, you can call it whatever you want to call it. You don't have a claim to all of it. I said, by that argument, you know, the United States should claim all of the Pacific. We liberated it, we defended it. We have as much claim to all of the Pacific. And we could call it the American Sea, and it could go from the West Coast of California all the way to the Philippines. And, you know, my counterpart sat up very straight and goes, well, you can't do that. And I said, well, we have as much right to claim that as you do. I mean, you claim it based on pottery shards from, you know, some fishing vessel that ran aground in an atoll somewhere. You know, we had conveys of military strength. We discovered Japan for Heaven sakes. I mean, we did all of these things."
-SECRETARY CLINTON: Yes, yes. And then he says to me, well, you know, we'll claim Hawaii. And I said, yeah, but we have proof we bought it. Do you have proof you brought any of these places you're claiming? So we got into the nitty-gritty of –
-MR. BLANKFEIN: I'll discuss that after I leave here. Let me ask you another question because this is also a topical question.
Let's say, hypothetically, that one country was eavesdropping on another country.
(Laughter.)
MR. BLANKFEIN: And I didn't hear the crisp denials, but I didn't hear any confirmation of it. How would you – would you be looking forward to giving that explanation? How do you go – what do you do now?
-SECRETARY CLINTON: Okay. I was Secretary of State when WikiLeaks happened. You remember that whole debacle. So out come hundreds of thousands of documents. And I have to go on an apology tour. And I had a jacket made like a rock star tour. The Clinton Apology Tour. I had to go and apologize to anybody who was in any way characterized in any of the cables in any way that might be considered less than flattering. And it was painful. Leaders who shall remain nameless, who were characterized as vain, egotistical, power hungry –
MR. BLANKFEIN: Proved it.
SECRETARY CLINTON: – corrupt. And we knew they were. This was not fiction. And I had to go and say, you know, our ambassadors, they get carried away, they want to all be literary people. They go off on tangents. What can I say. I had grown men cry. I mean, literally. I am a friend of America, and you say these things about me.

October 15, 2016 - 12:35

Luke Roberts

Thanks for the tl;drs user

October 15, 2016 - 12:38

Carter Hughes

To an extent the narrative is right: unemployed or unpaid labour is a sink-hole for economic growth.

October 15, 2016 - 12:40

Adrian Richardson

-SECRETARY CLINTON: So, fast forward. Here we are. You know, look, I have said, and I will continue to say, we do need to have a conversation with and take a hard look at the right balance that we could strike between, you know, privacy and security because there's no doubt, and I've seen this and understand it, there's no doubt that much of what we've done since 9/11 has kept us safer. That's just a fact. It's also kept our friends and our partners and our allies safer, as well. The sharing of intelligence requires the gathering of intelligence and the analysis of intelligence.
And so as we have alerted our friends and worked with them on plots and threats that we had information about, they've done the same for us. And, clearly, they have their own methods of collection. So it's not good enough to say, everybody does it, because we should hold ourselves to the highest standards, and we should have the right checks and balances in this whole system.
-She says there's no evidence that the government is collecting "the sorts of things that Americans are worried about," but that "the collection of metadata has been very helpful."
-Regarding digital information collection, "We have to have a way of doing it, and then we have to have a way of analyzing it, and then we have to have a way of sharing it."
-"So I think maybe we should be honest that, you know, maybe we've gone too far, but then let's have a conversation about what too far means and how we protect privacy to give our own citizens the reassurance that they are not being spied by their own government, give our friends and allies the reassurance that we're not going beyond what is the necessary collection and analysis that we share with them and try to have a mature conversation." :^)
-"MR. BLANKFEIN: Maybe embedded you've already given part the answer, but how serious, how bad was it what Snowden and Assange did? What are the – I mean, Assange – if this were a destroyer and innovator conference, we might have had Assange here."
-"But how much did that hurt us? Aside from the embarrassment, clearly some avenues now, some things we relied on that, have been closed off for us. I know it was very important to try to get some legislation that would have made it legal to get some more of this metadata that's been very helpful without having the carriers face liability. That's probably been put on the back burner. What are the consequences long term for this in terms of our own safety and the safety of the Republic."

October 15, 2016 - 12:41

Christopher Cox

Jesus fucking christ.

October 15, 2016 - 12:43

Jaxon Lopez

...

October 15, 2016 - 12:47

Josiah Jenkins

-SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, separate the two. The WikiLeaks problem put at risk certain individuals. We had to – we had to form a kind of investigative team that looked at all the names and all the documents, which was quite a challenge, to make sure that identities that were either revealed or described in enough detail that they could be determined would not put people who were at risk. I mean, without going into detail, you know, maybe they're – let's just hypothetically say there was somebody serving in a military in a certain country who was worried about some of the activities of the military that he served because he thought they were doing business with rogue states or terrorist networks, and so he would seek out an American diplomat to begin a conversation. And the American diplomat would report back about the concerns that were being expressed about what was happening in this country. And then it's – you know, it's exposed to the world. So we had to identify, and we moved a number of people to safe – to safety out of where they were in order for them to be not vulnerable.
So on the WikiLeaks, there was the embarrassment factor, there were the potential vulnerability factors that individuals faced. The WikiLeaks issue was, you know, unfortunate. Private Manning should have never had access to a lot of what he did have access to. So, in effect, it was a problem. But it didn't expose the guts of how we collect and analyze data.
A lot of – without knowing exactly because I don't think we yet have an accurate picture of what Snowden put out. You saw where Clapper and Alexander and others were testifying that reporters didn't understand what they were looking at. That's totally possible. I don't discount that at all. A lot of the information that is conveyed is difficult to understand without some broader context. So Alexander and Clapper said, look, a lot of what Snowden had, which has been interpreted by the press, is not accurate. I can't speak one way or the other on that. But what I think is true, despite Snowden's denials, is that if he actually showed up in Hong Kong with computers and then showed up in Mexico with computers, why are those computers not exploited when my cellphone was going to be exploited.
So I do think that there has been a real loss of important information that shouldn't belong to or be made available to people who spend a lot of their time trying to penetrate our government, our businesses. And even worse, you know, some who are engaged in terrorist activities. I mean, the Iranians did a disruption of service attack on American banks a year ago. The Iranians are getting much more sophisticated. They run the largest terrorist networks in the world.
So, you know, if Snowden has given them a blueprint to how we operate, why is that in any way a positive. We should have the debate. We should have the conversation. We should make the changes where they're necessary. But we shouldn't put our systems and our people at risk. So I think that WikiLeaks was a big bump in the road, but I think the Snowden material could be potentially much more threatening to us.
-Blankfein asks if the American political system is "hopeless," and claims that most of the entrepreneurs at this meeting think that they ought to just "chuck it away"
-Hillary tries to deflect by saying some mayors and governors are doing "alot of good things."
-Senate rules need to be reworked to prevent obstruction from senators, nominees and policies deserve an "up or down vote."
-Lawmakers drawing district lines are gerrymandering things to the point where "they only have to worry about a challenge from the left of the Democratic Party or a challenge from the right of the Republican Party"
-More states should emulate California's non-partisan district board because "these people don't care about what's going on in the country, just whether they get a primary opponent"

October 15, 2016 - 12:48

Ayden Sullivan

-Hillary starts to talk about businessmen that donate to Republicans that threaten to wreck the economy/tarnish the US's credit, and says voters need to stop rewarding candidates that refuse to compromise before Blankfein changes the subject
-MR. BLANKFEIN: Does it have to get worse first in order for the – because, obviously, in America, we've gone through cycles. Somebody said, boy, politics have never been this bad. It's so poison. And I said, well, we did have the Civil War, and we got through that. And we had the McCarthy era. And so we've gotten into and out of these cycles before. But do you need to bounce off some bottom? In other words, does it have to get so bad that the electorate rallies to want the spirit of compromise instead of sending – because ultimately, it's really the vote – you know, we blame the legislators, but it's the voters. The voters have to realize that the only stable, sustainable government is one in which the moderates compromise and the fringes get rejected, not the other way around.
-SECRETARY CLINTON: That is exactly. And, you know, post the shutdown/debt limit debacle, you know, the Republican Party's ratings dropped dramatically. You can see it in Virginia where the Democratic candidate has opened a big lead and in part because the Republican candidate for governor looks as though he's of the extremists. He's of the Tea Party-like Republicans, and he's being punished for it.
MR. BLANKFEIN: Utah, also.
SECRETARY CLINTON: Yeah. So you're seeing people say, wait a minute. Enough. You know. I may be conservative, but I'm not crazy. And I don't want to be represented by people who are crazy and who are threatening, you know, the entire structure –
-MR. BLANKFEIN: Yeah, and one thing, I'm glad – I'm proud that the financial services industry has been the one unifying theme that binds everybody together in common.
(Laughter.)
MR. BLANKFEIN: So with that, let me – you notice how I don't make that a question.
(Laughter and applause.)
:^)
-My question is, as entrepreneurs, we risk a lot. And Mike Bloomberg had 30 billion other reasons than to take office. Do we need a wholesale change in Washington that has more to do with people that don't need the job than have the job?

October 15, 2016 - 12:53

Sebastian Perry

I can hear Chomsky screaming in the distance.

October 15, 2016 - 12:59

Benjamin Jackson

-Hillary thinks "more successful business people should run for office" because "they can be maybe rented but never bought"
-MALE ATTENDEE: How about in the Cabinet?
SECRETARY CLINTON: Yeah. Well, you know what Bob Rubin said about that. He said, you know, when he came to Washington, he had a fortune. And when he left Washington, he had a small –
MR. BLANKFEIN: That's how you have a small fortune, is you go to Washington.
SECRETARY CLINTON: You go to Washington. Right.
But, you know, part of the problem with the political situation, too, is that there is such a bias against people who have led successful and/or complicated lives. You know, the divestment of assets, the stripping of all kinds of positions, the sale of stocks. It just becomes very onerous and unnecessary.
MR. BLANKFEIN: Confirmation.
SECRETARY CLINTON: The confirmation process is absurd. And it drives out a lot of people. So, yes, we would like to see people, but it's a heavy price for many to pay and maybe not one that they're ready to pay.
-"How do we bring back the message of hope" regarding the US
-the US needs to begin talking about "the story of America" and reform immigration/create a path to citizenship
-Society is like "a three legged stool," that needs free enterprise, "effective government," and an active civil society
-And what I really resent most about the obstructionists is they have such a narrow view of America. They see America in a way that is no longer reflective of the reality of who we are. They're against immigration for reasons that have to do with the past, not the future. They can't figure out how to invest in the future, so they cut everything. You know, laying off, you know, young researchers, closing labs instead of saying, we're better at this than anybody in the world, that's where our money should go. They just have a backward-looking view of America. And they play on people's fears, not on people's hopes, and they have to be rejected. I don't care what they call themselves. I don't care where they're from. They have to be rejected because they are fundamentally unAmerican. And every effort they make to undermine and obstruct the functioning of the government is meant to send a signal that we can't do anything collectively. You know, that we aren't a community, a nation that shares values.
-America is a spook "intellectual invention"
-Freedom. I think freedom. Freedom of the mind, freedom of movement, freedom of debate, freedom of innovation. You know, I just – I don't think we fully value – we sometimes take it for granted, and we sometimes even dismiss it, how much stronger we are. Because in addition to that individual freedom that we have in great abundance compared to China, for example, we do have checks and balances. We have constitutional order. We have protection of intellectual property, we have a court system that we use for that purpose. We have a lot of assets that support the free thinking and free acting of individuals. And in the long run, that's what I would place my bet on. I think that is what gives us such a competitive advantage.
Now, in the short run, we have to protect ourselves, not in protectionism, but in, you know, protecting intellectual property, for example, from every effort to undermine what you all do every single day, and we have to be smart about it. We have to invest better in education, starting at zero, not starting in even kindergarten, because we have to better prepare kids to be competitive in a global economy. There's a lot of problems that we have to solve that are community, national problems.
But fundamentally, you know, it's that feeling that, you know what, if you really work hard and you have a good idea, you can make something of yourself, you can produce something. You know, we have traditionally been a country that invented things and made them. Now, we don't do that as much, but I think there's a little bit of an understanding we've got to get back to doing more of that because that ultimately will give us more jobs, give you more opportunities for producing things without fear of being taken advantage of in other markets. So I just think the freedom is just absolutely priceless.

October 15, 2016 - 13:02

Carson Carter

Because they're journalists, and because they can

October 15, 2016 - 13:09

Henry Ward

-A quarter of US entrepreneurs came from outside the US
-neither congress nor the executive branch are organized for the 21st century
-Hillary wants to streamline access to credit for small businesses
-one of the primary complaints she hears is that entrepreneurs "feel like they have nowhere to go" for credit because they "don't know how to work the federal system" and that even when they do they feel they have "no opportunities there"
-"Yes I do."
-The State Department wasn't allowed to use mobile devices until 2009/10

NP, I tried to condense them down as much as possible, but especially in the third one there were passages I think best left verbatim.

All I can say is wew, no wonder she didn't want these published. They aren't especially damning, at least these few, but she really lays some things right out there. Especially calling out the Gulf states and the China stuff.

October 15, 2016 - 13:09

Brayden Peterson

I am still very depressed by this election but a few things comfort me.

1. trump will lose spectacularly, not so much that he loses, it's that his awful supporters will go supernova.

2.I love elections, even this one. I love the polls, I love the data, I love the maps. It would have to be a lot worse than this for me to dislike elections.

what's everyone's favorite poll/prediction websites?

I like 538 (of course).

projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

Princeton Election Consortium

election.princeton.edu/

Polly Vote

charts.pollyvote.com

nytimes

nytimes.com/interactive/2016/upshot/presidential-polls-forecast.html

I'm checking this shit everyday.

October 15, 2016 - 13:32

Christopher Jackson

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/10669

I really hate when people don't know how to use ellipses right.

October 15, 2016 - 13:39

Caleb Murphy

;~; Can I post nao

October 15, 2016 - 15:01

Hudson Jones

Wow there's a lot of policy shit in these wall street speeches. No wonder they paid so much for them. It's like insider trading if you assume she is going to be the future president.

October 15, 2016 - 15:04

Kayden Wood

Oh, absolutely, but my point was the one being a product of the other. Reaching back for just a bit more historical perspective, it's obvious the period of high unionization and resultant high prosperity was a historical aberration that only happened because we closed the doors on all alternatives for business to the new system.

Strong unions work best in a tight labor market, with strict regulatory codes. Opening our borders to laissez-faire trade and immigration gives businesses an infinitely large license to supplement or ignore small numbers of demanding workers, and restrictive laws.

Yeah, this thread is fucking up real bad for me. When I post the form freezes at "posted" with the button grayed out, not showing up at the bottom of the page, and it's incredibly slow; posts come in all at once every several minutes or hours, with auto-update and manual refresh (even control-shift-r) doing nothing until then; and yet the outside-of-thread view for the entire board shows new posts in this thread normally.

October 15, 2016 - 15:12

Gabriel Murphy

This is one of the most desperate muckraking attempts I've seen in a long time.

He says that the killing of Martin was legally justified. Which is a perfectly accurate statement. That is literally what happened. He was found to have not broken the law.

You know they're getting desperate when they go for utterly minor sexual preferences.

Forging car insurance for a pizza delivery job? From what I've heard from another former pizza delivery guy, you may be required to get special commercial insurance that nobody working that job can possibly afford.

Fucking laughable

October 15, 2016 - 15:18

Nicholas Peterson

Right? And when you know the government's future (or private :^) ) policy, you and your firm can get in on the ground floor when it means time for those juicy government contracts rebuilding schools in Aleppo or whatever.

Or building fall out shelters :^)

But he saw Jennifer Lawrence's butthole. And commented on it! He's a monster.

October 15, 2016 - 15:21

Luke Gomez

i genuinely feel so bad for ken bone

he never asked for this
fucking bully media

October 15, 2016 - 15:29

Ethan Ross

I don't understand why the media goes out of their way to wreck this Ken Bone - aside from being malicious for no good reason whatsoever, which isn't surprising. It just seems like it would backfire bigly on them.

October 15, 2016 - 15:32

Luis Gomez

It's memetic warfare. They're trying to see how many people can get behind them and call that random nobody a monster for use in the future Clinton presidency.

Remember that imageboards, 4chan, and Holla Forums are now serious fucking business so we can't downplay that possibility.

October 15, 2016 - 15:41

Jaxson Lopez

Fobbing off business expenses (insurance, certification, transportation, uniforms, tools and equipment, maintenance, or even consumeable supplies, depending on the job) is one of the slimiest employer practices imaginable.

October 15, 2016 - 15:41

Ethan Thompson

It's more a case of needing something to talk about other than the leaks.

October 15, 2016 - 15:46

Mason Garcia

Ah, that makes sense I guess.

October 15, 2016 - 15:58

Justin Ortiz

I just don't believe that trump is better than hillary.

I feel like this election I'm constantly being gaslighted by both sides. People say things and I have no idea what to believe. I will explain my feelings (yes >feels).

Trump: Not presidential, too hasty and rash, doesn't think before he speaks, not very smart policy wise. has a number of bad policies that will not help and I do not agree with. I don't actually believe he's really racist, but I do think he is bigoted, perhaps unconsciously. doesn't have a high opinion of women, again maybe because he's just old or doesn't have the same experiences that I do.

Hillary: Unknown what she "really" believes on too many subjects, skeletons in her closet (no not literal real ones), a little shifty and paranoid. a few bad policies (NSA, etc). takes too many opinions from lobbyists and "special interests".

good trump: somewhat on trade I guess? the "just fuck my shit up fam" candidate, I can respect that.

good hillary: if we assume she believes most of what she says then I agree a lot. (higher minimum wage, regulating wall street more, paid family leave, more taxes on the wealthy, good on social issues, etc). she also does have a shitton of experience, she practically knows how to do the job already. and yes I know we all hate it but she is a woman, it might be interesting to see how she deals with certain things because of that.

Now I find this to be a reasonable opinion to have. hillary is not the devil, she'll be fine. donald does not seem like he knows what's going on, how can I vote for a stupid person to be president?

idk like I said I feel like everyone is lying to me, the only thing I have left is my >feelings and guts sprinkled with as many actually true facts I can find and confirm.

I feel like I'm crazy because most of the communities I browse don't agree with this assessment, but I can't go to other communities because I have a lot of qualms about hillary too that I think need to be addressed.

also I typed this 2 hours ago and Holla Forums was fucking up.

October 15, 2016 - 16:05

Landon Nguyen

I do, for one reason: Trump is not a Democrat. If Hilary wins, she will bring nothing but failure to the party. Think about the broader context, what do you want the narrative in 2018 and 2020 to be? Would you rather have the Dem party reset, and come back swinging or watch as Hilary fails to justify herself to voters, and is completely crushed by the GOP?

October 15, 2016 - 16:11

Juan Green

yeah no check the emails. She's spineless and only believes that shit just to get votes. She has no actual means to even implement it anyway, as she has no strategy to win back Congress.

Wrong again, she will be four years of failure (budget cuts, syrian no-fly zone, bigger pissing match with russia) before a Cruz/Rubio landslide followed by a GOP Supermajority in a census year. We must prevent this, at the least latter, at all costs. Eight years of Trump may be shameful but it's better than eighty years (if not more) of Republican domination.

Vote Stien. That, more than anything else, sends a message.

October 15, 2016 - 16:12

Adam Roberts

Hillary's leaks on Ralph's radio hour today:

ralphnaderradiohour.com/the-politics-of-technology-hillarys-wikileaks/

October 15, 2016 - 16:21

Joshua Kelly

Closely related: Trump is universally opposed by the establishment on both sides, Clinton has obtained their unprecedented bi"partisan" support. Anything bad Trump pushes will be blocked by his rabid haters, anything good Trump pushes might be bullied through using populist demagoguery. Clinton, on the other hand, will be allowed to do anything she or her backers wish to, and defended from all opposition by the human shields of SJWs and their PC rhetoric.

October 15, 2016 - 16:40

Wyatt Johnson

It's "unprecedented", relatively speaking. Of the Repubs denouncing Trump, very few are actually endorsing Clinton.

You have a really crude understanding of Congress.

Wtf are you talking about? Literally not a single Republican politician has said anything to this effect, and the only way she would get her shit passed through is a Dem Congress. Fuck, only a Holla Forumstard could say something this retar-

Ah, ok that explains it.

October 15, 2016 - 16:49

Camden Myers

I'm not the guy you were replying to, but I was starting to feel Stein because an activist was retweeting her stuff to my TL. As time went on, I noticed that I agreed with basically everything she said. But about a week ago, I saw an interview where she said that it's important to work with Assad to take on terrorism. This isn't something minor I can ignore like homeopathy or something.

October 15, 2016 - 16:54

Jace Lopez

How optimistic of you.

October 15, 2016 - 17:02

Aaron Garcia

Wait, are you talking about her actual agenda of neoliberalism and neoconservatism, or the fake B████crat stuff? Because if it's the latter, why haven't you learned your lesson from Obama's explicitly broken campaign "promises" of socialized medicine, shutting down Afghanistan/Iraq/Guantanamo, regulating the financial industry, and public infrastructure spending?

October 15, 2016 - 17:03

Jayden Diaz

No, I'm talking her real agenda. The emails and common sense have already shown that the DNC platform was a meaningless concession. Don't worry about my sanity lol.

October 15, 2016 - 17:09

Jayden Cruz

wut

October 15, 2016 - 17:10

Ayden Morales

I agree with B████, so it's not like it's entirely impossible for some other politicians to also line up.

October 15, 2016 - 17:11

Brody Miller

This is the idpol of Democrats. Bombing kids is fine, as long as the butchers are diverse gender-wise.

October 15, 2016 - 17:12

Jace Rodriguez

100% you own an apple product or have gone on holiday in the past five years

October 15, 2016 - 17:20

Blake Williams

Yeah, these are both true actually.

October 15, 2016 - 17:21

Connor White

But it's so much easier for me to excuse my intellectual laziness as cynicism. I'm actually twelve years old and I've never done a single thing to help the socialist struggle, but God help me, I *will* fault your middle-class lifestyle.

October 15, 2016 - 17:37

Noah Perry

Keep LARPing, comrade

October 15, 2016 - 17:38

Brandon Nguyen

Hello Buzzfeed.

October 15, 2016 - 17:41

Alexander Mitchell

Look, if we as a people vote for Donald Trump, there will be an economic crash. The people will be so disingenuous with Capitalist society and Rightist-ideas there would be a huge new wave of pro-socialist workers fighting against the bourgeoisie.

Vote Trump if you want Socialism to stand a chance, bottom line.

October 15, 2016 - 18:15

Juan Lewis

You have to go back
>>>Holla Forums

October 15, 2016 - 18:26

Cooper Hughes

You have to go back is a Holla Forums meme, you should have thought it through before using it Holla Forumslack.

>>>Holla Forums

October 15, 2016 - 18:28

Sebastian Walker

Aren't you getting bored yet?

October 15, 2016 - 18:35

Jordan Wright

How dare you humiliate me.

October 15, 2016 - 18:35

Jack Reed

You have to go back

October 15, 2016 - 18:43

Aaron Robinson

as opposed to what? Assad is at least open to bribes and will stop the migrants from flowing into Turkey, undermining the leverage Erodgan has over the EU with the migrants. These are all good things. Simply partitioning Iraq between Assad, the Kurds and Iran is probably sufficient.

October 15, 2016 - 18:50

David Reed

The neocons side with her and a few (Romney) actually endorsed her.

That said I don't think that Hilary could get anything done as President, but her only allies are people that her party is supposed to be fighting.

October 15, 2016 - 18:56

Leo Jones

crashing the economy does not automatically create class consciousness.
Most Americans are too spooked by big business to blame any new economic crash on capitalism. They'll say it was crony capitalism/too much regulation/dumb poor people instead.

October 15, 2016 - 19:45

Jonathan Parker

If you've read the Podesta leaks, it's clear she doesn't. For one, she definitely isn't going to regulate Wall Street more. Her private position is that Dodd-Frank went too far. She also doesn't support a $15 minimum wage. That was a campaign lie according to the emails.

Judging from her past, her support for liberal social issues will likely extend no further than "I feel your pain" and opportunistic adoption of "progressive" views after they're already accepted by the majority in the US or are already law.

October 15, 2016 - 22:22

Caleb Smith

Handy dandy pdf of Podesta emails. If you're trying to enlighten normies or find yourselves arguing with CTR.

static1.squarespace.com/static/56f871ec2eeb8183c2c79661/t/58005f3ee3df2898d6a5be14/1476419391134/PodestaFiles.pdf

I found this in leddit, of all places.

October 16, 2016 - 00:19

Dominic Baker

This is the thread I found it in.

reddit.com/r/politics/comments/57jgnj/hacked_emails_raise_possibility_of_clinton/

Surprisingly, good thread. Not surprisingly, had to sort by controversial to find it.

October 16, 2016 - 00:33

Jayden Allen

So is dolan drumpf really gonna lose hard?

I see all these hit pieces everyday but eventually aren't people going to get tired of it even this late in the election?

I just want to know how much I should celebrate during my election party.

October 16, 2016 - 01:14

Ryan Nelson

There is no reason to celebrate, during this election.

October 16, 2016 - 01:56

Grayson Young

I will celebrate if mass murderer Hillary loses. Less chance for more wars.

October 16, 2016 - 02:16

Christian Evans

Eh, you got me there. I would be tempted to celebrate that, too, just because she's so dirty & deserves to lose for rigging the primary. Still, we're fucked either way.

I hope
1. Hillary loses
2. If Trump wins, he's impeached soon after
3. Emergency election, now that more people are paying attention
4. Workers become class conscious & rise up

October 16, 2016 - 02:22

William Bennett

Leave

October 16, 2016 - 02:59

Landon Torres

both trump and hillary will be in prison before nov 8th

jill stein wins
DNC and GOP are disbanded
america becomes a one party state
wealth redistributed
means of production seized

October 16, 2016 - 03:29

Zachary Russell

Yes, benisposder, I too want to believe.

October 16, 2016 - 03:35

Jace Reyes

Yes, but not in the same way. I'm not an American, so for me the US foreign policy is not a marginal issue.
Take Russia for example. Trump has been consistent in his "better relations with Russia" stance, whereas Hillary has been consistent in her "beware of evil Russia" stance, not only in theory but in practice as well. She's calling for a possible military response to "Russian" cyber "attacks", she wants more nuclear weapons so that America is ready for "future nuclear threats", she supports no-fly zone in Syria while knowing that it means war with Russia and Syria, and knowing that it will "kill a lot of Syrians".
In general she seems to be doing everything to agitate and worsen international relations, and she's closely tied to countries that are doing the same, like Saudi Arabia and Israel. Her track record as Secretary of State is awful (e.g. Honduras and Libya, just to mention two obvious ones).

I don't doubt that Trump will have to step back from some of his contrarian positions if elected, but with Clinton you're getting already right from the start the hyper version of the current imperialism. She's not lesser evil, if anything she's more effective evil. And the establishment knows this very well.

October 16, 2016 - 04:52

Ian Roberts

Interesting

October 16, 2016 - 05:02

Parker Brooks

Now you know how Hitler came to power. That's where socialist from Nazi comes from.
Everything else is just kike propaganda from USSR and USA.
Either we win or we descend into a technocratic/corporatist nightmare that 1984 and Brave New World would make a good bedtime story.
youtu.be/nNHtYzJ3L1Y

October 16, 2016 - 06:09

David Baker

What really worries me is that he's getting all these supporters riled up to go and "prevent fraud" by showing up and "monitoring" the election. Obviously, they can't crack open the machines and really make sure that nothing is going on, so they'll be essentially walking up to people and telling them that they voted twice.

Here's the problem. If somebody looks vaguely similar to a person who already voted, they'll be accused of voter fraud. Probably by some dude in a MAGA hat, who's open carrying. That's called voter intimidation, and it could easily lead to a hotly contested election, if it happens too often. It could very easily lead to a shooting. At that point, what happens? If Trump still loses, probably nothing. If he wins though, it could lead us into a civil conflict that we might not be able to win.

October 16, 2016 - 07:50

Brandon Butler

Yeah, presidential elections are basically the Olympics for PoliSci majors. As much as I hate both parties I like heckling the debates at bars and getting drunk while watching the results come in on Nov 4th.

October 16, 2016 - 07:54

Ian Rogers

...

October 16, 2016 - 07:54

Benjamin Walker

Ken Bone is a true threat.
He could be on the ballot and actually win.

October 16, 2016 - 07:57

Michael Stewart

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/787625546461175808

M-M-M-M-MORE EMAILS

October 16, 2016 - 08:19

Carter Gutierrez

RADICAL
DIFFERENCE

October 16, 2016 - 08:23

Levi Hughes

pls stop mr bones

October 16, 2016 - 08:32

Lincoln Evans

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/11616
literally CTR

October 16, 2016 - 08:32

Lucas Wood

Yeah, there are lots of these, just packed full of links and "talking points" for CTR to use

October 16, 2016 - 08:53

Connor Price

can I just bury my head in the sand and pretend everything is ok?

October 16, 2016 - 12:01

Levi Sanders

I was just thinking the same, earlier..

October 16, 2016 - 12:10

Jaxson Perry

Fuck me but I'm actually looking forward to final debate, just to see how they can pile more shit than the last two combined.

October 16, 2016 - 12:19

Jack Myers

No, the people absolutely despise Assad. As long as he's alive, the war will never end.

Assad steps down, and a new democratic government is established according to the plan that was posted a few weeks by that one rebel group (I don't remember who it was).

I'm not even pro-rebel and I can see this as the obvious solution.

October 16, 2016 - 12:29

Camden Bell

See

October 16, 2016 - 12:30

Brandon King

This. Remember 2008.

October 16, 2016 - 12:31

Jonathan Johnson

btw talk about pravda: heavy.com/news/2016/10/cnn-chris-cuomo-claims-wikileaks-podesta-emails-illegal-for-citizens-to-read-own-possess-conspiracy-youtube-video/

this is the worst timeline.

October 16, 2016 - 12:32

Camden Walker

Are you implying Trump wouldn't continue the Bush-Obama neocon order? Let me refresh your memory: youtube.com/watch?v=ySdhGyqGCZk

Romney didn't endorse. Some staffers of his did.

October 16, 2016 - 12:38

David Cook

Wow. Just.. wow.

October 16, 2016 - 12:41

Jacob Wilson

As a firm anti-Clinton/Anti-Trump person, I think this is a good argument you make.

October 16, 2016 - 12:43

Hunter Bailey

youtube.com/watch?v=SXz3J7iXSM4

October 16, 2016 - 12:43

Michael Carter

There's no doubt in my mind, that whatever the outcome is, there's gonna be riots.

(And Holla Forums that condemns "glorious uprisings" will be cheering of course)

October 16, 2016 - 12:44

Andrew Jones

I think this is something people keep forgetting. Trump may not be as hawkish as Hillary is on Russia, but he's still a hawk, and he's probably more hawkish than her on China. They're the same shit, just with different toppings.

October 16, 2016 - 12:47

Henry Evans

WTF

October 16, 2016 - 12:50

Christopher Evans

Yup. Even though I just replied with the video, I still have to remind myself that Trump is a hawk. It's only cause Clinton has been in office. If Trump had been in office, he'd be the same.

October 16, 2016 - 12:53

Cameron Rodriguez

Assad is supported more by the people then the rebel opposition though, and that's adding all of the different rebel factions together.

Still awful tho.

October 16, 2016 - 12:59

Michael Lopez

yahoo.com/news/obama-decries-wild-west-media-landscape-214642552.html

October 16, 2016 - 13:19

Luke Long

isidewith.com/elections/2016-presidential/2694521071

how cucked am I?

October 16, 2016 - 13:20

Brody Williams

honestly the worst thing about hillary is that I don't even disagree with her, it's that she's not trustworthy and I don't know what she believes "really".

October 16, 2016 - 13:21

Easton Kelly

It's too late, pandora's box has already been opened. Boomers (including both Obama and Hilary) might opine for simplier days of just network TV but that era has passed. Most major US newspapers and radio stations are dead, and network TV itself is waning. This is how clearchannel (run by a Holla Forumsfag) has grown to be so big. Cable's end is in sight too.

As for the Internet itself, it can't be censored at this point. People demand unfettered access to everything, and demand the ability to be rude and petty to each other. Taking that away means people will simply find a way around it or go somewhere else.

It's hilarious to see Obama say this though, given that his original campaign got off through social media. But, it's clear now that he's just as old and isolated as everyone else in the party.

October 16, 2016 - 13:21

Austin Lee

...

October 16, 2016 - 13:25

Isaiah Bailey

Gee, its almost as if people are realising that the major news networks are really just a de-facto branch of the government and our elites, and that all that bullshit MSM journos spew about "speaking truth to power" is just self-righteous bullshit

October 16, 2016 - 13:26

Jackson Rogers

This isn't necessarily bad. I think isidewith goes off of what Clinton has said, and she has technically put forward progressive promises (even though she's lying about it).

October 16, 2016 - 13:27

Henry Nelson

In other words: the hammer is coming down hard.

October 16, 2016 - 13:28

Carter Campbell

Reminder that MSM is mostly only useful for entertainment. Links to good alternative journalism:

theintercept.com
fair.org
alternet.org

October 16, 2016 - 13:30

Ryder Miller

Finally, we can put an end to the filth that is Million Dollar Extreme.

October 16, 2016 - 13:35

Kayden Jenkins

So it's not traditional censorship, it's some kind of "neo-censorship" where instead of removing something completely you discredit it instead. In other words, the government tells you which information you have to believe and which you must not, instead of simply removing unwanted information.
And this is precisely how CRT and Clinton supporters already operate. So Obama is calling for a general CRT service.

October 16, 2016 - 13:40

Grayson Sullivan

File never existed, never gets old

October 16, 2016 - 13:46

Jonathan Powell

He really isn't though. he's just frustrated about how the media is so shit now.

I don't think there's a way to do what he's saying, but he's right about everything else.

It's not censorship, people are sick of news that lies to them.

October 16, 2016 - 13:48

Leo Howard

It's not an effective strategy though, because the media has already been discredited. Regardless, if people wanted "curated" content AOL and MSN would dominate the Internet, not Google or Facebook. Adding things like "certification badges" next to "curated" posts is at the very best window dressing and won't actually change minds. Because, much like printed media, everything posted as text online is equal. It's not like TV where higher production values and FX can affect things.

Imagine it: a "curated" author would post something online, which would get bumped up to it's respective front page with a big "verified user" next to every one of his posts. Sound familiar? It's already done on most vBulletin forums and everyone has learned to ignore it. Even normies won't care, because everyone gets their news from their own special snowflake cubbyhole now. This is hugely exacerbated by how targeted internet ads work.

October 16, 2016 - 13:51

Jaxon Fisher

So basically Red Scare 2.0?

October 16, 2016 - 13:56

Elijah Watson

We need to put a stop to it now.

October 16, 2016 - 13:58

David Gray

Made a Strawpoll: strawpoll.me/11444229

There's also "Not voting" and "Undecided"

October 16, 2016 - 14:34

Alexander Collins

I think what I actually miss most about "old media" is the idea of a mirror apparatus to government and corporate bodies like the police, spy agencies, marketing departments, and investment researchers.

Back in the old days, a reputable paper of any size had their own departments, investigators, researchers, informants, secret files, planned operations, and even branch offices across the world. Instead of just regurgitating press releases or offering naive commentary, reporters worked as part of a machine to gather, analyze, and present information. This was possible because they had steady salaries, formal assignments, and project budgets with which to pursue leads and ideas.

Sad to say, the closest thing to them that exists today is probably the thinktank, which the public only receives intelligence from in the form of poorly quoted references in clickbait.

I think the best that could be done to restore some degree of legitimacy to the press is some sort of legally regulated statement proving that the "journalist" has at least contacted/checked out/verified everyone/everything in their article.

October 16, 2016 - 14:54

Leo Walker

Another thing very wrong with media today, is outsourced stories.

youtube.com/watch?v=TM8L7bdwVaA

I even moved out of the country, and see the big papers here running stories, word for word, out of American presses & passing it off as their own. That's scary,

October 16, 2016 - 14:58

Oliver Garcia

GOP office in NC has been firebombed:

cnn.com/2016/10/16/politics/north-carolina-gop-office-vandalized/index.html

also lol at CNN's front page, top story is "is Trump's brand failing" even though there's a fucking battle over Mosul occurring at the moment

October 16, 2016 - 15:08

Matthew Peterson

also Holla Forums thinks this is an organized attack (as the GOP hq in orange county, CA got bombed too), and something to do with "d.a.k"

I don't know who did this, but it's in bad taste and is only going to cause people to lean Republican.

October 16, 2016 - 15:10

Charles Garcia

If not that, then you see journalists just giving summary of what they themselves read in foreign mainstream media (Guardian, WaPo, NYT, etc..). It's noticeable because they use the same phrases, the same lines of though, the same examples and analogies, etc… Even "alternative" media here is like that, you have leftist authors writing really lazy articles about "sexist right-wing conspiracy" against Hillary, and how fascist Trump is. There's not been a single mention of Podesta's email leaks yet, anywhere.

October 16, 2016 - 15:12

Jackson Hughes

If you're not free to tell some dumb asshole to fuck off then you're not free at all.

October 16, 2016 - 15:13

Ryan White

fuck off, you dumb asshole

October 16, 2016 - 15:14

Landon Turner

why don't you come over here and make me you worthless sack of cock cheese, dipshit idiot moron assfuck

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/11580

October 16, 2016 - 15:15

Luke Ward

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/787777344740163584

October 16, 2016 - 15:16

Christopher Parker

fucking stupid asshole made me forget to include the body, fucking cunt

October 16, 2016 - 15:17

Benjamin King

heh, my plan worked flawlessly

October 16, 2016 - 15:20

Isaac Wood

u better watch yer back muther fucker

October 16, 2016 - 15:23

Wyatt Hughes

Guys.. I had a dream about a month ago. Hillary got elected, and I was at home alone, but my family was outside in the city. All of a sudden, an intense, bright red glow appeared outside. Red was everywhere. I knew instantly, it was a nuclear bomb. It started to get damn hot in the house & I felt a crazy strong fear overcome me. I ran around the house, realizing my family was now surely dead. I tried to find the coolest spot in the house, finally settling in the stairway towards the basement, to get away from the scalding heat. I cowered there for a long time, just trying to grasp what was happening.

So yeah. I actually had a dream that Hillary got elected & directly after nuclear war ensued. I hadn't shared that here yet. But.. yeah. Kinda freaked me out, once I woke up. That was not an enjoyable dream. And it kinda made me feel part of the real, genuine terror one would feel in that moment.

October 16, 2016 - 15:30

Levi Bell

;~; ok

October 16, 2016 - 15:30

Evan Wood

reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/57rsux/code_red_we_have_damning_evidence_of_treason_by/

The_Donald is losing its mind

October 16, 2016 - 15:34

Leo Gutierrez

They should be, they have a smoking gun. Hard evidence that someone inside Hilary's machine broke the law. Congress can now destroy her for it.

October 16, 2016 - 15:36

Camden Diaz

>twitter.com/wikileaks/status/787781519951720449

gov.uk/government/organisations/foreign-commonwealth-office

The madman

October 16, 2016 - 15:39

Grayson Hall

I'm plum cornfused

October 16, 2016 - 15:41

Ian Cook

It's machine code.

October 16, 2016 - 15:45

Robert Powell

an encryption key, apparently, from what I'm reading

October 16, 2016 - 15:47

Dominic Butler

Can leaks serve as authentic evidence in legal cases though?

Here's my guess: it's encrypted / hashed data, possibly passwords? If you were to get a dump of a password database that's what it would look like. Now somebody needs to crack them, they're basically crowd sourcing that job.

October 16, 2016 - 15:48

Connor Powell

The titles for the codes could potentially be a preview of what will drop in the ten week timeline.

A quality stash of emails from the British Foreign Office would scorch the Conservatives, and the Kerry emails would blow the Democrats wider open.

October 16, 2016 - 15:52

John Campbell

...

October 16, 2016 - 15:54

Oliver Parker

Yes. And it's good enough for Congress.

October 16, 2016 - 15:54

Zachary Campbell

These e-mails never cease to amuse me. From them it's clear that Hillary's campaign have been been fully aware that she's destroying the Democratic party, but deluded themselves into thinking it was nothing. Amazing.

This only confirms that if Hillary is elected, she won't even see the party split coming until it's too late.

October 16, 2016 - 16:01

Mason Morgan

God damn that movie was ugly as fuck.

October 16, 2016 - 16:08

Jayden Thomas

Please, I could have told you this the moment Snowden was exiled. The people who run the Democratic party truly, honestly, believes that young voters will simply snap back and accept their place in the party. They seriously believe that millennials will vote for them as long as they are "correct" on idpol/socjus issues. As the email indicated, the party is full of old boomers (many of whom started as traditional activists) that cannot envision a world where young people actually vote third party or simply don't vote out of frustration.

October 16, 2016 - 16:12

Dylan Howard

About the hashes:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commitment_scheme
In other words, it works like this:
- release hashed version of content X
- by doing that you're publicly binding yourself to content X without revealing it
- at a later date release content X in plain text
- now people can hash the plain text version to see if it is the same thing you have committed to before the release

So what is the point of this? Well, for example, if Wikileaks are somehow disabled before their releases, and someone else releases some bogus content in their name, we can check if it's bogus or not. A kind of safeguard against being compromised.

I think that's the case as well. Why leak stuff from Ecuador though? Isn't that shooting yourself in the foot?

October 16, 2016 - 16:20

Carson Edwards

This, plus they probably swallowed whole the "demographic transition" meme
i.e

I mean really, who is actually excited for a Hillary presidency? The sort of Boomer cat ladies mentioned in that see her as the apotheosis of their aspirations?

October 16, 2016 - 16:22

Joshua Hall

This makes sense.

October 16, 2016 - 16:22

Carter Gomez

isidewith.com/elections/2016-presidential/2695315442
r8/8

October 16, 2016 - 16:44

Nathan Bell

It's more so that they don't care, as I've been telling you people repeatedly.

Whether it's due to malice or stupidity the Democratic Party is completely subservient to the status quo

October 16, 2016 - 16:47

Jack Carter

facebook.com/senatorsanders?_fb_noscript=1

The contents could be anything nigga.

October 16, 2016 - 16:51

Bentley Gutierrez

This "movement" kicked into higher gear last week about writing in B████ is starting to seem more and more like a false flag operation to take votes away from Jill Stein.

October 16, 2016 - 16:55

Ethan Sanders

I thought the same. It hit so hard & at the same time.

October 16, 2016 - 16:56

Juan Green

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Maybe the "Ecuador" release will actually be about USA blackmailing Ecuador to give them Assange.

October 16, 2016 - 16:58

Landon Rivera

Man.. I still love S█████. That moment when his bro nominated him at the convention..

JUSTICE FOR LARRY S█████

Fuck Hillary. She's such an evil cunt.

October 16, 2016 - 16:59

Levi Lopez

One of the bigger Facebook organizers did a conference call last night trying to explain to everyone what a bad idea it was and they were hit by people a) lying about their reputation and trying to tell people that the event (of which they had done plenty in the past) was a scam and b) trying to spread false connection info to people about the conference. These aren't the kind of tactics I expect from B████ fans; this is some CTR shit.

October 16, 2016 - 17:05

Gabriel Gray

Actually all three could be about Assange:
1. John Kerry: US Secretary of State = US foreign relations
2. Ecuador: in whose UK embassy Assange resides
3. UK FCO: foreign & commonwealth office = UK foreign relations

It's a triangle in which Assange is caught.

October 16, 2016 - 17:09

Jeremiah Reyes

Assange is only a small part of Wikileaks at this point. He may be their spokesman, but they certainly won't be able to stop the flow by taking him out.

October 16, 2016 - 17:11

John Hernandez

Some revenge

twitter.com/WesleyRickard/status/787753444404826112

October 16, 2016 - 17:11

Adrian Powell

this

I was trying to notice a pattern or relation, and this seems a connection

October 16, 2016 - 17:11

Blake James

SHIII

October 16, 2016 - 17:14

Luis Thomas

This underhanded bullshit really makes me angry.

October 16, 2016 - 17:15

James Taylor

hahah what
what a dumb bitch

October 16, 2016 - 17:23

Michael Campbell

I read his brother, Larry, is running in David Cameron's recently vacated riding as a member of the Labour Party.

October 16, 2016 - 17:23

Bentley Murphy

Has Sen. Slick been playing 4th-dimensional chess this entire time?

October 16, 2016 - 17:31

Jaxson Gray

Who, Hillary? I think that was the best possible public revenge. Saying you will vote for Stein wouldn't be as effective. It was like personally spitting in Hillary's face in public. I'm sure it made Hillary quite irritated if she saw it, even if it's just one voter.

October 16, 2016 - 17:38

Colton Powell

Awfully reactionary, tbh fam.

October 16, 2016 - 19:17

Lucas Young

...

October 16, 2016 - 19:48

Julian Foster

Found this gem of a refutation
forwardprogressives.com/for-the-last-time-heres-proof-the-democratic-primary-wasnt-rigged-against-bernie-sanders/
This sort of logic is used in 419 scams - you need to immediately weed out anyone that will question you in favour of cutting through to the gullible, ala Nigerian prince/Kazakh cosmonaut stuck in space

October 16, 2016 - 20:15

James Bennett

Obama either missed the point of that word entirely or gets it and is rubbing it in our faces.

October 16, 2016 - 20:53

Thomas Hernandez

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/787889195507417088
ruh roh…

October 16, 2016 - 22:37

Brandon Gonzalez

CONVICTIONS WHEN

October 16, 2016 - 23:10

Nathaniel Murphy

And now something much worse will drop. I would have thought that Obama would know that this would be the only outcome as a result.

October 16, 2016 - 23:17

Michael Martin

This better be good.

October 16, 2016 - 23:27

Oliver Moore

Judging by the hashes already released, I'm betting that it's state department cables involving Secretary Clinton. Y'know, the same lady running for President. Obama (or May) might have just nuked her chances of winning.

October 16, 2016 - 23:31

Liam Clark

I seriously doubt they have something really dangerous they aren't releasing.

They probably mean taking steps to prevent him from being unlawfully extradited.

October 16, 2016 - 23:31

Mason Perry

Wouldn't be the strangest thing they've done.

October 16, 2016 - 23:34

Hunter Miller

Question: If a killteam/snatcher mission were dispatched, what political fallout would there actually be?

October 16, 2016 - 23:35

Mason Rivera

It would be unprecedented I think. For starters I could see China becoming the default sphere of influence for all socialist countries with the US and UK getting kicked out of them. I don't think even the Clinton's have enough power to pull off something like that. Rumour is they're going down the blackmailing Ecuador route instead.

October 16, 2016 - 23:41

Brandon Butler

Other countries might raise a stink about but with the level of control Hillary and the elite in general have over the media it could easily be memory holed and blamed on the Russians.

Just what?

China is socialist now?

What socialist countries are out there now anyway?

October 17, 2016 - 00:17

Adrian Nelson

N o n e

October 17, 2016 - 00:20

Gavin Martinez

I guess they'll be passing out Quotations from Chairman Deng Xiaoping then.

October 17, 2016 - 01:06

Angel Hall

Kerala
Rojava
Israel

October 17, 2016 - 01:15

Jonathan Bell

Chiapas

October 17, 2016 - 01:18

Bentley Lewis

mobile.twitter.com/StateDept/status/787737926058799104

:^)

October 17, 2016 - 01:45

Angel Ramirez

kill yourself

October 17, 2016 - 01:45

Justin Martin

wsws.org/en/articles/2016/10/17/clin-o17.html

By Tom Carter
17 October 2016

He did not believe in political equality. There was the multitude, he said, and there were the “natural” leaders. “Always wealth, in some countries birth, and in all countries intellectual power and culture mark out the man to whom, in a healthy state of feeling, a community looks to undertake its government.” These men had the leisure for it and the fortune, “so that the struggles for ambition are not defiled by the taint of sordid greed… They are the aristocracy of a country in the original and best sense of the word… The important point is that the rulers of a country should be taken from among them,” and as a class they should retain that “political preponderance to which they have every right that superior fitness can confer.”

October 17, 2016 - 02:15

Jacob Garcia

...

October 17, 2016 - 02:16

Austin Baker

“I wrote her a long riff about economic fairness and how the financial industry has lost its way,” the aide wrote. “Perhaps at some point there will be value in sharing this with a reporter and getting a story written. Upside would be that when people say she’s too close to Wall Street and has taken too much money from bankers, we can point to evidence that she wasn’t afraid to speak truth to power.”

October 17, 2016 - 02:17

Joshua Harris

what did he mean by this?

October 17, 2016 - 02:49

Tyler Richardson

All the replies are negative, which feels good. Although, of course, whoever supports their bullshit isn't actually interested in seeing or replying to their bullshit. The silent majority just follows along.

October 17, 2016 - 02:53

Logan Hill

They will boil Assange alive, then make a risotto out of him for Hillary's first dinner as a president.

October 17, 2016 - 02:54

Cameron Ward

...

October 17, 2016 - 02:56

Kayden Wood

search thread for smartmatic

Smartmatic (US voting machines) controlled by Soros

(Mark Malloch-Brown) chairs the Boards of a number of non-profit boards including …the Open Society Foundation… SOURCE OF THE ABOVE - - http:// www.smartmatic.com/about/our-team/detail/lord-mark-malloch-brown/

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October 17, 2016 - 03:05

Anthony Davis

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October 17, 2016 - 03:36

Joshua Morgan

I watch a lot of Malayalam movies(from Kerala), and no matter what the subject matter, they're always calling each other "comrade", you see communist stuff in the background(posters,signs), and there's always a communist message weaved in.

Even in Tamilnadu /"kollywood" movies. I just watched a movie called "Joker", and at the very end they gave some heavy communist type message/monologue. That's probably the saddest movie I've seen, too. I swear these script writers & producers have a competition to see who can make the saddest fucking movie. I like Tamil movies because they're so raw & realistic, but goddamn..

Movies are huge here & they use them to send a message. Many times it's a political message that highlights injustice. Very interesting as an American, seeing the communist messages always.

Oh & I just saw one of the biggest budget movies in a while here with Rajnikanth(highest paid Asian actor), and Che Guevara posters were in the background at a "reform school" in one scene, lmao.

October 17, 2016 - 05:21

Brandon Cook

communism is ultimately a depressing affair.

if you are smart enough to be a communist then you completely understand just how dog shit the world is and you end up in a deep cynical depression, part of the reason why so many videos of the USSR of people being interviewed by western media they come off as "grey" and lacking emotion compared to dumb fuck smiling americans. they understood the realities of the world while americans didn't

October 17, 2016 - 06:05

Grayson Rivera

Fighting for justice in an unjust world.

I personally love seeing the camaraderie between people. Even culturally here, strangers call me "akka"(big sister) or "athai"(auntie).

In the US it's mostly about selfishness/the individual. And fuck that, I don't care to return to it. Overseas, family/community seems to mean much more.

Where are you from comrade?

Honestly this makes sense. I appreciate someone being in a good mood all the time, but not ignorance. I feel like I suck the life out of the room sometimes, whether it be here or the US, when people are so happy & I can't fake the social niceties. Makes it awkward.

October 17, 2016 - 06:44

Jeremiah Reed

and what is that incredible second picture?

October 17, 2016 - 06:51

Dominic Cox

Russians have always been grim, sad, and fatalistic, even long before the rise of the USSR.

t. -3rd generation immigrant

October 17, 2016 - 07:50

Easton Nelson

Clinton's team bribe FBI to reschedule emails from classified to unclassified.

In a sane world this would be the end of her campaign.

October 17, 2016 - 07:58

Isaiah Lee

In a sane world we would already have communism

October 17, 2016 - 08:07

Ian Martin

Interesting if true

October 17, 2016 - 08:22

Kayden Smith

Source? Who got this leak?

October 17, 2016 - 09:01

Ryan Cox

It's not a leak, check the URL. It's the officially released FBI notes.

October 17, 2016 - 09:08

Ryder Morris

Breaking developments in liberal ideology.
uphold Marxism-Trumpism

October 17, 2016 - 09:20

Kayden Wood

I'd expect as much.

October 17, 2016 - 09:37

Ryan Clark

youtube.com/watch?v=k3O01EfM5fU

John Oliver's take on third parties
:DDDDDD

October 17, 2016 - 09:38

Thomas Garcia

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/788058872321826816

A link to them, here: archive.org/details/HillaryClintonFBI

October 17, 2016 - 10:35

Jordan Russell

washingtonpost.com/national/the-white-flight-of-derek-black/2016/10/15/ed5f906a-8f3b-11e6-a6a3-d50061aa9fae_story.html

An actually enjoyable article if you skip the Presidential worship.

October 17, 2016 - 10:36

Jason Young

These people make me sick. They are the same people who believe hand over fist that Florida caused Gore the election and they're the ones pushing conspiracies about Bush rigging the Florida vote. To them any question of Clinton's win is a far left conspiracy meant to be shamed and ignored.

October 17, 2016 - 11:00

Joseph Garcia

They'll talk shit when the other side of the polemical coin takes office, but when its there guy/girl everything is fine. Look at Colbert, Maher, and the limousine liberals they represent. Went from criticizing bush to not a peep during obama.

October 17, 2016 - 11:08

Brandon Nguyen

When is she finally going down? What kind of evidence is needed for her to have to step down?

October 17, 2016 - 12:33

Brayden Brooks

politico.com/story/2016/10/hillary-clinton-trump-wikileaks-229864

October 17, 2016 - 12:42

Noah Ortiz

As if only Russia and Trump could possibly be interested in knowing what manner of IRL super villain is currently running for POTUS.

October 17, 2016 - 12:46

Brody Richardson

I think what Wikileaks truly revealed to all of us, including to the governments around the world, is that you can openly conspire against your own people and the people will support and glorify you in doing that. There is no need for propaganda anymore, you can just say e.g. "we're doing this because banks payed us to do so and you're all getting screwed, this is politics". And the people will say, see, there's nothing scandalous here, they're just normal politicians, it makes me like them even more!

October 17, 2016 - 12:59

Andrew Diaz

The problem seems to be that to take her down, you'd have to indict everyone from Obama on down. These emails implicate just about everyone for something.

October 17, 2016 - 12:59

Owen Mitchell

What a time to be alive.

jk brb killing myself

October 17, 2016 - 13:13

Aiden Allen

"Hillary Clinton will win the election, but she'll have to defeat Trump to do it"

October 17, 2016 - 13:13

Gabriel Reyes

Quit posting Donald.

October 17, 2016 - 13:17

Asher Kelly

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/788099178832420865

October 17, 2016 - 13:22

Jason Collins

The only reason there isn't more outrage is because this election season is an absolute mess.

October 17, 2016 - 13:24

Thomas Howard

rt.com/news/363013-rt-uk-accounts-blocked/

Some weird things are going on…

October 17, 2016 - 13:25

Anthony Jackson

It makes you wonder which of those two is supposed to be the "3rd world" country.

October 17, 2016 - 13:27

Nathan Nelson

...

October 17, 2016 - 13:30

Jack Reed

youtube.com/watch?v=5IuJGHuIkzY

October 17, 2016 - 13:36

Dominic Sanchez

Well, RT is a propaganda arm of the Kremlin. The UK would prefer to have only their own propaganda arms operating in their country.

October 17, 2016 - 13:36

Aaron Martin

нет.
Her name is "Margarita Simonyan".

October 17, 2016 - 13:39

Easton Campbell

...

October 17, 2016 - 13:40

Hunter Sanders

What's up with that like to view count

October 17, 2016 - 13:42

Luis Bell

thx for CTR

October 17, 2016 - 13:44

Sebastian Ramirez

Good Riddance.

This disgusting person was transmitting illegally obtained materials from Russian hacker groups tied to Trump and his people. He should've been shut off months ago.

I wasn't the only one that saw through the obvious Russian made garbage. Everyone shown in the video were actors from known right wing, fascist, and sexist groups.

Why haven't they made a video taking about Trumps ties to Russia?

Why haven't they made a video about Trumps taxes?

Why haven't they made a video about all the allegations of rape and sexual assault against Trump?

They are afraid of America being Stronger Together under a Hillary Clinton presidency.

ImwithHer

October 17, 2016 - 13:53

Wyatt Parker

Welcome to capitalism

October 17, 2016 - 13:59

Josiah Reed

ASS WE CAN

October 17, 2016 - 14:00

Lucas Cooper

Every one of his videos seem staged. I wish he would cut this shit out. It only helps fuel the Clinton "conspiracy" line against actual evidence.

And the video of the guy dressed up as Bin Laden crossing the Mexican border was excellent.

October 17, 2016 - 14:02

Hudson Nelson

Why now though? Seems like UK & US are becoming increasingly hostile to Russia on many seemingly unconnected fronts.

October 17, 2016 - 14:04

Evan Murphy

>>>Holla Forums take your autism elsewhere pls thanks

October 17, 2016 - 14:04

Aiden Wright

O'Keefe is such a con artist even Breitbart had to disown him. Is Holla Forums really this fucking stupid?

If you wanna circle-jerk over Alex Jones-tier retards fuck off to Holla Forums. I think there's enough reasons to hate Clinton that we don't need to side with disgraced right-wing "activists"

October 17, 2016 - 14:07

Luke Cox

See, this, right here, is the bulk of the real value of these emails (for now).

I find it hard to believe the queen would tolerate any unbelievers in her court, and all these people are guilty of something, real or imagined.

If/when Clinton wins, expect heads to roll.

October 17, 2016 - 14:08

Grayson Nelson

"We haven't got any proof but you bet as soon as we illegally detain him and seize his documents we'll find proof of something."

October 17, 2016 - 14:12

Robert Miller

You are going to see those exact points made by hill shills on social media so I'm just putting it out there.

October 17, 2016 - 14:13

Cooper Jackson

this. hillary's superpacs are honest and would never stoop to such corruption. this is just alt-right conspiracy nonsense.

October 17, 2016 - 14:14

Luke Nguyen

That's right, and I bet Trump will show all those cucks what's what once he's President!

October 17, 2016 - 14:17

Tyler Perry

She'd try. But ultimately it'd just be an even bigger shitshow and she would only succeed in making an even bigger mockery of herself.

Congress will remain fully Republican and has more than enough ammo to completely destroy her presidency. Especially with the most recent leaks, a day one Impeachment does not seem unlikely and a Conviction (ie removal from office) would hinge upon how many neocons in the Senate want an early retirement.

October 17, 2016 - 14:18

Aaron Peterson

I don't see this happening. States that have been red are turning blue even at the local level.

Also, if Bengazi and the private emails had no effect before and during this election it isn't going to change even with new evidence as president.

If anything more shit is going to get covered up.

October 17, 2016 - 14:23

Colton Green

Please, user, my dick can get only so hard.

October 17, 2016 - 14:25

David Robinson

With what evidence? Detroit is bankrupt, the entire Rust Belt is dead and there are no more union shops especially as Right-To-Work laws are implemented. Wisconsin has already fallen, as has Michegan and soon Ohio. Missouri flips this year. Southern Democrats are all dead, Webb is the last one. Heck, even fucking Illinois has a Republican Governor as does New Jersey.

Hilary was not President back then. If she wins, the game changes. Congress would absolutely have carte blanche to investigate everything leaked in the emails and this means *at the very least* sworn testimonies in front of Congress. Each successive testimony, and there would be multiple, would give Hilary a bigger and bigger space to trip up. One trip and she's Impeached just like her husband was over Monica Lewinsky.

Of course, a Conviction is another matter. Hilary has friends in the Establishment GOP who could prevent a 2/3rds Senate vote. But even then the damage would have been done, it would in effect be a vote of no confidence and Hilary would not be able to actually do anything for her four years in office, before being stomped by Cruz and Rubio.

October 17, 2016 - 14:29

Cameron Garcia

Yeah, I've seen them. I'm arguing with one of them on YT right now, lmao. I hate these fuckers.

October 17, 2016 - 14:30

Michael Perez

But was there enough evidence in the Bengazi case? It seems we have a mountain of evidence of wrongdoing now, the only problem is that it's perhaps still too wide and thin.

October 17, 2016 - 14:30

Asher Gomez

Establishment Republicans won't hurt their own. Romney, McCain and friends would all go down with the ship. The GOP would be damaged, but ultimately they have a recovery plan while the Democrats don't. Imagine, for a moment: in 2020 the narrative would be a "reformed" GOP running two hispanics against the blemished Democratic party. It'd be a watershed moment where beans start voting GOP while the Democrats completely self-destruct like the Whigs.

October 17, 2016 - 14:33

Carson Wood

wew

October 17, 2016 - 14:33

Aiden Butler

RELEASE: The Podesta Emails Part 10
wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/?q=&mfrom=&mto=&title=¬itle=&date_from=&date_to=&nofrom=¬o=&count=50&sort=6#searchresults

October 17, 2016 - 14:34

Daniel Baker

;~; help me user

On a side note.. I actually met my husband through the YT comment section. No joke. Some good can come of it.

October 17, 2016 - 14:35

Jonathan Perez

Yeb pls, its never gonna happen

October 17, 2016 - 14:35

Anthony Brooks

Thank you, thank you for the webm. I was too tarded(& tired) to figure out how to take it from Twitter.

10/10

October 17, 2016 - 14:39

Brody Young

Never forget, all Americans are fucking stupid. This includes the brown ones.

Consider the following: the big bad racist Trump is locked away, and the GOP "reforms" itself by putting forward hispanic candidates. At the same time, Hilary would be making a huge mess and pissing everyone off. As the world is consumed by recession (which will likely be announced in a year) they'll be able to shave them off.

October 17, 2016 - 14:44

Samuel Jones

fuck, the next few decades are going to suck

October 17, 2016 - 14:45

Adam Reyes

chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/flash-video-downloader/aiimdkdngfcipjohbjenkahhlhccpdbc?hl=en

October 17, 2016 - 14:49

Eli Phillips

Is this the one with the green arrow? I downloaded it before, but it just came with spyware/bullshit that slowed down my computer.

If not, i'll give it a try. Thanks user.

October 17, 2016 - 14:52

Adam Bennett

There are websites that do the same thing.
downloadtwittervideo.com/

October 17, 2016 - 14:54

Brody Rogers

Awesome. Sometimes I use keepvid or other sites, but some don't work for specific sites sometimes.

October 17, 2016 - 14:56

Charles Robinson

The cycle cannot repeat itself, because the GOP are smart and know how to lock in districts. Specifically every state they win becomes Right-To-Work. This has held true of all states they've won since 2000 except Ohio (which will flip after the election). Labor, and thus the Democrats, source of income is crippled and they are put at a massive campaign disadvantage. This brings up another problem with the Dem party: politicians (and the staffs they hire) are increasingly risk-adverse and don't want to take money generated in hard blue states and use it in swing states (especially if surplus money can be siphoned off into gold toilets and summer homes). The whole cycle grinds to a halt as the GOP slowly, but surely, reassumes the dominance they held in the late nineteenth century.

Alternatively, the Democrats could stop being such a shit party and return to the reformist, Labor-first platform that won them the dominance they held over the government from 1930 to 1980.

October 17, 2016 - 14:56

Nolan Nelson

This works for all sites.

Are you colorblind?

October 17, 2016 - 14:59

Mason Jenkins

lol fuck you, I'm a little high

October 17, 2016 - 15:03

Jack Bell

lol

October 17, 2016 - 15:43

James Cruz

But hispanics don't just vote for the "hispanic" candidate, especially when they're Cuban (Rubio, Cruz)

October 17, 2016 - 15:54

Logan James

Holy fuck, there isn't enough astroturf in the world to make that go away.

October 17, 2016 - 16:01

Julian Martinez

The future has already been decided for the Democrats. Either they go with B████ or they die.

October 17, 2016 - 16:05

Chase Gutierrez

What similar material? There's plenty of evidence to show corruption that led to B████ losing. Clinton was decided years ago, and they let the primaries run as if they were legitimate.

October 17, 2016 - 16:12

Jason Price

That video is too good to be true. This guy is an imbecile. There's plenty of actual evidence to use against Clinton. Using this just helps fuels their "hurr infowars & republican witch hunt" bullshit.

October 17, 2016 - 16:13

Nathaniel Rogers

Google Aaron Minter

October 17, 2016 - 16:31

Jacob King

Remember when Trumpkiddies were calling us Bernouts and delusional President DNC leaks? Purely hysterical now that they are pulling the same shit, weeks before the general.

October 17, 2016 - 16:37

Lucas Cooper

I cannot possibly forget.

October 17, 2016 - 16:44

Isaac Rivera

For some reason it isn't having any effect and the general populace is too dumb to care.

Trump actually said the primary process was rigged against B████ while it was it ongoing.

October 17, 2016 - 16:46

Elijah Morgan

Just looked him up. He seems like a real piece of shit.

October 17, 2016 - 16:55

Carter Flores

Ah, I see what you mean now. True. They really should've worked with us, to defeat Hillary.

October 17, 2016 - 17:03

Caleb Cox

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/13532

October 17, 2016 - 17:06

Aiden Reyes

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/13225

October 17, 2016 - 17:07

Evan Robinson

Maybe it's because no one actually fucking tries.

October 17, 2016 - 17:08

Michael Hernandez

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/12401

In that vein, I was told or experienced the following since we had our meeting last week Victoria:

October 17, 2016 - 17:13

Matthew Garcia

Looks like Amy Goodman got her riot charges over the Dakota Access coverage dismissed.

October 17, 2016 - 17:15

Carson Lopez

Derp, forgot link:

youtube.com/watch?v=0HOYevkCicc

October 17, 2016 - 17:18

Aiden Wright

mobile.twitter.com/davidfrum/status/787783601869979648

These are influential people outright denying the leaks, not nameless shills. This is becoming a serious issue.

October 17, 2016 - 17:34

Grayson Baker

He further elaborates that he refuses to report on the leaks because he does not want to be "a PR agent of Putin."

Extremely troubling.

Can you imagine how these men would act if the fog of war were to come down? Those of us who desire peaceful relations with Russia and China truly have no hope on the propaganda front.

October 17, 2016 - 17:39

Justin Ward

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Frum

What else did you expect? "Influential people" aren't going to call attention to the leaks, because 90% of them are Establishment types that honestly see little to nothing wrong with them, and more importantly love Hillary because she's a radical centrist with foreign policy views that would make a neo-con blush and economic views that will have The Economist writing paeans to her name.

You're not going to see anything from them except for disengenous snark about Podesta's risotto recipe, half-hearted insistence that its a Russian conspiracy to destroy The Free World™, or "Yeah, I know she's in bed with the Saudis and the banks BUT DONALD TRUMP, man"

October 17, 2016 - 17:47

Cameron Diaz

The general populace doesn't need any more convincing that Hillary is horrible. They know it. But unfortunately, so is Trump.

We have two of the worst presidential candidates in American history, so what's more scandal? We've had dozens during this election. Both of them should've dropped out months ago.

Regardless of the facts, you're still stuck voting for the devil in November. You just get to pick the name you want to give him.

October 17, 2016 - 18:09

Thomas Taylor

Trump doesn't seem that bad anymore honestly. Perhaps the image they've created has been so overblown and false that the real thing looks quite normal next to it.

October 17, 2016 - 18:25

Jose Rodriguez

What does that mean?
That's incredibly cryptic

October 17, 2016 - 18:37

Adrian Thompson

Again: never forget that ALL Americans are fucking stupid. Including the brown ones.

October 17, 2016 - 18:53

Ethan Roberts

when did you finally accept that one of these bourgie scum will be the next president of the most powerful nation on earth?

October 17, 2016 - 18:53

Hudson Richardson

Before the leaks I would've voted for Hillary just to keep Trump out of office but now…

Trump does look like the better option but only because Hillary is millions of times worse.

October 17, 2016 - 18:57

Colton Price

Will something like this come from Hillary?

October 17, 2016 - 19:02

Jonathan Harris

legislation like this is meaningless considering how most easily big companies can get around the law and hide their donations.
On another note, countdown until some smug liberal dismisses corruption as an issue by making a gamergate joke in 3 2 1….

October 17, 2016 - 19:06

Michael Ward

...

October 17, 2016 - 19:16

Hunter Brown

But Jill Stein is a thing.

October 17, 2016 - 19:21

Hudson Kelly

Why not an infinite-year-ban on lobbying?

October 17, 2016 - 19:22

Jaxson Howard

And remember that those fuckers at Edison decided to not perform exits polls at all on the final Primary day, so no data at all about California and that hotbed of integrity New Jersey.

October 17, 2016 - 19:25

Parker Perry

I would say it is a good first step especially coming from an ultra porky like Trump and eventually it can be expanded on.

October 17, 2016 - 19:28

Isaac Fisher

I don't believe this for a second.

At best it's Trump pulling the ladder up behind him. Trump's one of the main beneficiaries of political corruption.

October 17, 2016 - 19:39

Adam Price

Well, take note that it doesn't actually stop lobbying and there are a shitton of loopholes in there.

October 17, 2016 - 19:41

Ethan King

Why not 100?

October 17, 2016 - 19:49

Ian Williams

This is not surprising sine last time, he undermined the potential corruption that was going on in the primaries, which was going to (and did) harm and assault on B████ ██████'s campaign and just used one article to say '"Oh, there no corruption going on because this one random news article clam that there no corruption without going any further in to detail and just stereotype B████ supporters as anger people, that gets mad when you disagree with them or tell them maybe there no corruption''.
(youtube.com/watch?v=_S2G8jhhUHg)
After this, i kinda lost trust in him; We are talking about the male baby for tim kaine, this shit wasn't, if was going to do it but when, and he did just that yesterday.

Also after when that video was posted, anons where referring to Hailley as Shilley; i kind of wanted to post and say/type goddammit anons, stop encouraging him.

October 17, 2016 - 19:55

Dylan Rodriguez

Yeah,thanks for reminding me about all that bullshit with the primaries & covering for the DNC/Hillary. Oliver's been an MSM shit for a long time, now.

I was actually hoping that Samantha Bee was going to have a good show. Then she went all out on S█████ supporters, pulling the "delusional, free shit" nonsense about them, and outright & boldfaced lied about the Nevada debacle("thrown chairs/violent B████ Bros). Fuck her.

Oliver & Bee will not be saved from the gulag.

October 17, 2016 - 21:29

Anthony Hernandez

I couldn't believe how many people I used to respect, parroted that. Probably the one that genuinely hurt the most was Barbara Boxer.

Those quips are down in black and white, we will not forget who was there for us when it mattered.

October 17, 2016 - 22:06

Ayden Edwards

Exactly. It hurt so bad that I officially left the party over it. Hillary has single handedly destroyed what was thought of as a less corrupt version of republicans.

DNC is the Titanic & Hillary was the iceberg.

October 17, 2016 - 22:16

Leo Hall

Who was there? It seemed like everyone turned their back on B████ and white knighted Whorelary.

October 17, 2016 - 22:27

Christopher Bell

Nina Turner & Tusli Gabbard come to mind. But yeah, those who did had to turn their backs & risk their jobs to endorse.

Elizabeth Warren fucked over voters; which was disappointing.

October 17, 2016 - 22:36

Xavier Martinez

How the fuck is everyone related to Hillary Clinton's campaign not in jail?

youtube.com/watch?v=hDc8PVCvfKs

October 18, 2016 - 12:26

Gavin Johnson

Oh this thread is alive again. What fixed it?

October 18, 2016 - 12:29

Eli Butler

Why should I waste my time on this crap?

October 18, 2016 - 12:30

Caleb Morris

So what the fuck happened there?

October 18, 2016 - 12:30

Asher Cox

(you)

October 18, 2016 - 12:30

Benjamin Russell

If it gets enough views it might get the Democrats to respond through one of their media whips with Republican footage.

It'd be a massive drama swamp of agony for both sides.

October 18, 2016 - 12:32

Henry James

archive.is/pbARy
“We will overcome this but, right now, the world is accustomed to saying old men are fine, they’re strong, they’re wise,” she added. “Old women, we’re not so sure.”

October 18, 2016 - 12:45

Blake Sullivan

wow i fucked up that greentext bad

October 18, 2016 - 12:46

Brandon Lewis

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/1101

:^)

>Maybe this kind of propaganda explains to some degree why Mr. S█████ and Mr. Trump attract the young people, but these thoughts do not fit in the United States. Our democracy does not allow that kind of propaganda. It does not allow an armed revolution.

Wew, lad

October 18, 2016 - 12:48

Oliver Clark

This is especially funny after the FBI report that just came out says that she's so unlikable and mean that so many senior agents (from the Secret Service and State Department) requested different details that they had to start guarding her with recent hires because no one wanted to be around her.

In a different time, she's the sort of politician that would end up being murdered by her guards.

October 18, 2016 - 12:51

Robert Price

Another smear campaign against Assange…
wikileaks.org/Background-and-Documents-on-Attempts-to-Frame-Assange-as-a-Pedophile-and.html?update2

October 18, 2016 - 12:53

Liam Baker

nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/02/17/killer-mike-defends-himself-after-uterus-comment-at-bernie-sanders-rally/

archive.is/IDT4b

This happened just a few days before.

Maybe they wanted him to tone down/stop his criticisms of Clinton.

October 18, 2016 - 12:59

Aaron Mitchell

Fucking CIA

October 18, 2016 - 13:02

Matthew Reed

I wanted to quote some parts to kek at them, but this is all golden.

October 18, 2016 - 13:25

Aiden Russell

Indira Gandhi 2.0 when?

October 18, 2016 - 13:53

Nicholas Reed

This is true, though.

They may have the "armed" part covered, but the "revolution" one?

October 18, 2016 - 13:56

Carter Perry

fuck yeah, who doesnt love some sweet character assassination?!

October 18, 2016 - 13:56

William James

...

October 18, 2016 - 14:29

Isaac Bennett

hopefully asap

October 18, 2016 - 14:32

Hunter Scott

I'm honestly surprised and disappointed that no right-wing "patriot" has killed her yet.

October 18, 2016 - 14:35

Bentley Kelly

made new porky template.
plz collectivize & post your edits here:

October 18, 2016 - 14:46

Landon Adams

...

October 18, 2016 - 14:46

Colton Wilson

I guess they're too busy trying to blow up muh immigrants
youtube.com/watch?v=5uM3PpFn2F0

October 18, 2016 - 14:46

Ian Rodriguez

forgot to add:
Fell ya nigga, they been fucking with one of the best OS devs.

October 18, 2016 - 14:49

Daniel Lewis

...

October 18, 2016 - 15:55

Luke Diaz

...

October 18, 2016 - 15:59

Andrew Collins

It was just a symbolic block to show the international public that they don't support interfering in the US elections, while at the same time not preventing Wikileaks' operations and supporting their journalism.
Purely a PR stunt. Correa studied game theory.

October 18, 2016 - 16:02

Blake Williams

Does this mean the embassy is NOT a safe place, i.e. he's been snatched? Would think that Assange would post a pic showing he is alive and well by now.

October 18, 2016 - 16:02

Adrian Green

I wonder what ludicrous things will happen tonight.

October 18, 2016 - 16:03

Samuel Turner

There's been this update on wikileaks.org/pedoplot :

I think you're reading way too much into it. Being hidden in an embassy is not a "safe place" since you're there to be protected from some existing threat. What they mean is that they will protect him until he's able to leave the embassy and reside in an actual country, like Ecuador itself.

October 18, 2016 - 16:09

Alexander Price

Probably the most cia spooks per capita outside of Virginia.

October 18, 2016 - 16:13

Hudson Clark

so is there any way around this assuming Assange is alive?

maybe some other (not!) wiki leaks source?

October 18, 2016 - 16:15

Luke Edwards

So you remember that weird "movie plot" email that Podesta got, about the "movie" about the US and Mexico uniting?

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/13751
wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/17034
wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/?q="Gideon+Rodeh"&mfrom=&mto=&title=¬itle=&date_from=&date_to=&nofrom=¬o=&count=50&sort=6#searchresult
wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/1488

looks like there's more, about using drones to destroy Afghan poppy fields

October 18, 2016 - 16:20

Alexander Morris

Ecuador can't say that publicly though. Also, Assange will likely stay in there for a looong time, and I don't see any problem with that at all - unless his internet connection is cut off (he can't work with the rest of Wikileaks and follow what's happening), which is precisely what has now happened and why this is of such importance to them that they've activated "contingency plans".

My guess is Assange will just have to go through a bit of internet fasting. They most likely still have some contact with him through other means, and their operations are not dependent on him (e.g. Podesta emails still leaking).

October 18, 2016 - 16:28

Asher Diaz

youtube.com/watch?v=96esIUaFqmU

October 18, 2016 - 17:33

Carson Watson

Not only do most Americans think Assange is a traitor but now they will think he is a child molester. Is there anything worse than a traitorous pedophile?

October 18, 2016 - 17:34

Lucas Anderson

A Hegelian traitorous paedophile

October 18, 2016 - 17:40

Justin Collins

A Young Hegelian traitorous paedophile

October 18, 2016 - 17:41

Ryan Nelson

trips confirm

October 18, 2016 - 17:47

Charles Evans

How can an Australian be a traitor to America?

October 18, 2016 - 17:51

Colton Rodriguez

Because WE'RE NUMBER 1

October 18, 2016 - 17:53

Michael Stewart

Because America is the world police, so anyone who does something the U.S. doesn't like is a traitor, or something.

October 18, 2016 - 17:53

Eli Wood

Obviously fake no one is gonna get fired for this, no investigation will happen either.

October 18, 2016 - 18:11

Matthew Barnes

There's an FBI report? That's been well known but it all came from "anonymous accounts"

October 18, 2016 - 18:13

Christopher King

If you do anything damaging to America, you are a traitor.

From the one and only Bill O'Reilly:

foxnews.com/on-air/oreilly/transcript/there-are-traitors-america

October 18, 2016 - 18:19

Michael Lee

I've attempted to get people that arent voting or are voting for Trump or Hillary against their good conscience to know about this site so they might be more likely to vote thirdparty
burnmyvote.org/

October 18, 2016 - 18:20

Ryan Campbell

who are you directing that at?

October 18, 2016 - 18:40

Isaac Phillips

It's a Gary Johnson grifter scheme.
For the voter, voting third party is essentially burning a vote, if you do the game theory properly. It doesn't matter if you convince someone else to burn their vote, all that means is that two people are now burning a vote. The only exception would be if a third party is viable to win, which isn't the case this year.

There is nothing wrong with burning a vote, but I'm sick of hearing the meme that a vote for Stein is a vote for Trump, or a vote for Johnson is a vote for Clinton, because it presupposes those votes belong to the main party candidates.

October 18, 2016 - 18:41

Joseph Cox

This is arguing against the two party system while accepting its premise. A vote by Tea Party radicals for a Libertarian is a vote not spent on Trump. A vote for Stein is a vote not for Democrats.

October 18, 2016 - 18:45

Alexander Rogers

Don't see how that works. The prevailing paradigm is that by voting for a 3rd party you are somehow voting for the candidate you least want to win. So in this case, you take away 1 vote from them so you're fine.

October 18, 2016 - 18:47

Jaxson Wilson

Is that legal?

youtube.com/watch?v=5IuJGHuIkzY

October 18, 2016 - 18:53

Evan Flores

That paradigm is bullshit for the individual voter though. It implies you would be at all open to voting for one of the main candidates otherwise. If the voter would consider one of the main candidates then they should obviously vote for that one even if a third candidate is more in line with their beliefs, but if both candidates are totally unacceptable - as HRC and Trump are to many - then the third party vote is just a null vote.

October 18, 2016 - 18:57

Jeremiah Brooks

Wut? Are you a shill, trying to plant some strange logic in people's heads? Your saying that your vote only ever counts for a republican or democrat, even if you dislike them, and voting for any other candidate is null?

October 18, 2016 - 18:59

Kayden Torres

Why does Florida have so many third parties on the ballot?

It's only illegal if you get caught doing it. Otherwise, it's business as usual.

October 18, 2016 - 19:00

Adam Allen

And the problem with this is that it implies the Libertarian has any interest in seeing the Republican win, or the Green has any interest in seeing the Democrat win. If the voter does have an interest in seeing one of the main two candidates win then their only option is to vote for one of the two parties. A third party vote is a vote of no confidence whatsoever, assuming the voter is a rational actor.

October 18, 2016 - 19:01

Jaxon Nelson

Not a shill, just someone who has enough sense to not trust Gary Fucking Johnson about anything.

The only way a third party vote "counts" is if the third party is viable to win, otherwise it is a null vote. It's not "a vote against your preferred candidate" because by voting third party you implicitly declare that neither of the two parties are preferred or tolerable.

There is nothing wrong with voting third party if you truly believe neither candidate is going to do a bit of good, but there is no magic where if you're a leftie and get a right-winger to vote third party, you've somehow nullified your third-party vote burn. All you've done is burn two votes. It's simple fucking math.

October 18, 2016 - 19:04

Isaiah Rodriguez

Not the case when they are in the same state and would normally be on opposite voting sides.

October 18, 2016 - 19:05

Noah Sanchez

Mate.

October 18, 2016 - 19:09

Hunter Jackson

That is only the case if oh say a person that would otherwie vote for Hillary votes for Jill Stein and a person who would vote for Trump votes for Gary Johnson, only then does it cancel eachother out but it makes both candidates possible to win if you have enough people as opposed to just Trump or Hillary. But some of the people voting for Trump currently are democrats that just don't like Hillary so it wouldnt be hard to get them to go back to the left again.A lot of people are just afraid of voting third party because theey don't know how to be smart about how to do it. This method has no risk and all gain.

October 18, 2016 - 19:15

Jaxon Evans

I can vote for Stay-Puft?

they must really hate her if they made that public lol

that logo

October 18, 2016 - 19:18

Gabriel Fisher

The emails from the Toddandclare site are surreal.

>He should do this before October 1st, 2016, by sending an email to [email protected]/* */

October 18, 2016 - 19:19

Joshua Garcia

And the reason I'm saying this is that trying to use strategic voting this way is a flawed strategy for a third party to gain momentum. If a third party wants to make a serious run, they need to be able to build a broad enough coalition to actually win states, and run on their merit as actually good candidates rather than as a vent for discontent. It's not easy to do without some compromise and without lots of $$$ (which is yet another reason why bourgie politics is hopeless).

The problem with this is that you're still splitting the third-party vote between Stein and Johnson, rather than unifying behind a third party with viability. Johnson's illusion is that he presents libertarianism as a "moderate" platform with broad appeal, when it's really right-wing astroturf.

I'm hoping the greens can grow into a viable party and start winning far more local and state-level races, but they have a lot of ground to make up. There just aren't enough Greens that make viable candidates to win many local races, to the point where they can be a serious party.

October 18, 2016 - 19:21

Ayden Thomas

Why is the alt-right so tactically stupid? I've been lurking Holla Forums recently and they seem convinced Trump has it in the bag.

October 18, 2016 - 19:29

William Thomas

Bourgie elections make people cray cray when they think their man is actually worth a shit.

October 18, 2016 - 19:30

Jose Parker

UR DUN BUD

ur fucken with me at this point. You've seen the error in your previous post and have corrected it while arguing the same line. Whatevs.

October 18, 2016 - 19:34

Chase Wright

I don't know. If the roles were reversed with Hillary or B████, I think her/his supporters would be realistic and start thinking about the future. I honestly hope this leads to the alt-right being radicalized and doing some stupid Weatherman shit which only discredits and isolates them further.

I'm looking forward to November if only to see the five stages of grief on Holla Forums.

October 18, 2016 - 19:34

Oliver Brown

they're already at "denial", lol

October 18, 2016 - 19:35

Jaxon Phillips

You're not following me correctly. I base my logic on the assumption that the voter will always vote strategically for their preferred outcome, not for who they would vote for in an ideal world. Thus, the third party voter knows that, unless their candidate is viable, they are burning their vote to spite the system, or because they're holding out for the 5% threshold for federal funding; the third party voter should, in the present system, have no marked preference between the two dominant parties, if they are rational actors.

Is it a good system? Of course not. I'm in favor of IRV so that we don't have another LePage, and in that scenario third party candidates are a lot more attractive.

October 18, 2016 - 19:43

Caleb Torres

They must not be listening to Trump recently because he now seems quite certain the election is going to be stolen from him. Which either means he genuinely believes that, or sees the writing on the wall and wants to prep his excuses for why it's not his fault if he loses.

October 18, 2016 - 19:44

Asher Long

I really hope the tape of Trump saying the n word leaks

October 18, 2016 - 19:47

Jaxon White

Bernie, maybe. Clinton though, she's a mad woman. She almost lost her shit over Obama, and Obama was basically a darker, younger genderswap.

The alt-reich are singularly stupid though, but cut a liberal and a fascist bleeds. Liberals are pretty assmad when they don't get their way.

October 18, 2016 - 19:53

Justin Richardson

But even going back in the past about half of Americans want to vote for a third party but don't because they think they can't win. I think it is even more now. I forgot where is saw this information.

I don't see why Green Party couldnt be viable right now. They have a similar platform as B████ who was doing well before he got screwed over by the DNC. Unfortunately a lot of people who are leftists like Libertarianism because they don't realize how right wing it is and since there is no left libertarian party.

October 18, 2016 - 19:53

David Stewart

Probably because the establishment media have gotten basically every single thing wrong about his campaign to date. Two consistent problems in particular: That every single dip in his polling numbers has been trumpeted as an undeniable death knell, and that every single instance of electoral fraud has been brushed aside as wild-eyed conspiracy.

If this "election" ends in disaster, it will be entirely the fault of the establishment's near-farcically stubborn denialism.

October 18, 2016 - 19:54

Luis Smith

I'm talking about her supporters. Most people in politics, no matter how insane their ideas may be, are at least forced to be realistic about their chances. Ted Cruz probably believes the world is 6,000 years old but he's got more political sense than the average @Pepe_Himmler1488

October 18, 2016 - 19:58

Nathan Perez

Nah nigga I got that, but you said it was wrong to presuppose those votes as belonging to one of the two main parties, and then you accept that massive finance informs vote distribution and with it, the two horse race.

None of this will matter considering the sort of platform restrictions the winner will try to pass through the house after November.

October 18, 2016 - 19:59

Caleb Jenkins

Greens are unfamiliar and unknown, not enough Greens at the ground level to seriously organize and run slates of candidates for state congresses and US Congress. IMO if a Green can make it into the US Congress the profile of the party improves dramatically.

How to do it is the multi-million dollar question. Even in the deep red states, there are Democrat stalwarts who won't give up, even though their state-level Dem party is a joke. A Green in Congress will have to adapt somewhat to wherever they are elected - for instance, positioning themselves in favor of gun rights to contrast themselves with the gun-grabbing Democrat image that is pushed by the liberal wing most of all.

October 18, 2016 - 20:02

Isaac Johnson

Jill Stein nearly got elected to the Massachusetts State House (21% of the vote), but instead of running again and possibly winning decided to run a protest campaign for president. This is why the Greens will never get anywhere, they have no strategy. The SPUSA elected over 100 mayors and two congressmen. Literally all the Greens do is run meaningless no-shot presidential campaigns instead of trying to elect Kshama Sawants, who would actually make an impact.

viewpointmag.com/2016/03/29/when-socialism-was-popular-in-the-united-states/

October 18, 2016 - 20:07

Christian Wood

But wouldnt oting for a party helps spread knowledge of it to people even if they do not win anything? Do you know who if any would stand a chance at congress?

October 18, 2016 - 20:27

Joshua Hernandez

It would help Greens qualify for ballot access if they get 5% this year, but old people are locked in their habits.

Really though, throughout the entire history of the US there hasn't been a truly independent major political party. The Democrats and Republicans have always been two sides of the same coin, as were their prior incarnations. The only way to break that - as the SPA knew full well - is revolution and a complete restart of the country's constitution and institutions. This is very hard when many, many people are dependent on some of those institutions, like social security (a ploy which basically bought off seniors and the disabled).

October 18, 2016 - 20:39

Colton James

Actually, all that's needed is constitutional changes to shift from FPtP to PR/IRV elections. It wouldn't even have to be done entirely at the federal level, since the manner in which states choose their delegates isn't actually specified, and the federal constitution doesn't say anything about how state/local governments must be run. State and local constitutions are ridiculously easy to change, many even being open to direct referenda.

Of course, given how hard it's been for the Brits to sell AV, this doesn't bode well for burgerland voters being smart enough to do so anytime soon, but I'm sure at least a few states would go for it if 3rd parties made a serious push on the issue.

October 18, 2016 - 21:07

Logan Barnes

There are dozens of damning statements made between the two videos. Unless you are claiming these are hired actors, there's absolutely no basis for dismissing these videos.

October 18, 2016 - 21:33

Jackson Harris

Quit parroting this diarrhea and educate yourself.

andreamerida.com/why-dan-savage-is-dead-wrong-about-jill-stein-and-the-green-party/

October 18, 2016 - 23:19

Ayden Parker

Also please try to understand that third parties have to run presidential campaigns in order to retain ballot access in a lot of states.

October 18, 2016 - 23:26

Juan Watson

Kshama can't be president, tho. Learnt it here too.

October 18, 2016 - 23:30

Jackson Collins

Disgusting

October 18, 2016 - 23:58

Owen Hernandez

Oct 4, T&C files its "Assange paedophile" libel through the UN’s Global Compact system alleging that there is an active criminal investigation in the Bahamas against Julian Assange for the abuse of an eight year old girl and claiming to have chat logs and photos. The allegation appears on the UN website with UN Gobal Compact letter head and is contextualised with a complex back story. The request targets the UN WGAD (part of the UN Human Rights system) which found that Assange is being illegally detained by the United Kingdom and Sweden.

you don't say

October 19, 2016 - 00:02

David Miller

Is a constitutional change necessary?

the Electoral College is definitely there without an amendment, but the definitions are vague. One could imagine a multi-layer transferable vote system, where states conduct IRV with citizens' votes, which is used to create ranked votes for electors (in IRV, candidates are eliminated iteratively, which could be interpreted as a preference list itself) that are used in determining the winner of the electoral college.

October 19, 2016 - 00:31

Lincoln Bennett

Or he wants to keep his side vigilant. I'm guessing you've seen the recent O'Keefe tapes?

October 19, 2016 - 00:37

Isaac Martin

tbf the establishment message is finally winning out over everything it seems.

It's just absurd at this point. Literally every single media outlet is pure anti-trump all the time. All TV news. Every newspaper besides drudge and brietbart. Every talk show. Every actor and comedian. Every youtube channel. It's insane. at bear minimum, 45% of the people are voting for him and there is not a single voice for them in the mainstream.

October 19, 2016 - 00:54

Chase Gonzalez

wsws.org/en/articles/2016/10/19/pers-o19.html

19 October 2016

October 19, 2016 - 01:38

Thomas Murphy

...

October 19, 2016 - 01:38

Colton Bell

Bill Van Auken

October 19, 2016 - 01:39

Kevin Young

Thank you wooswoos-poster for your daily wall of text.
not once have I read your posts

October 19, 2016 - 01:42

Parker Smith

CNN cuts satellite feed as soon as WikiLeaks is mentioned by Congressman Collins:

youtube.com/watch?v=cbA5RE9eK08

Also, the news anchor here is the brother of the current Dem Governor of New York and is a personal friend of Hilary Clinton. Holla Forums is going apeshit, as you can imagine.

October 19, 2016 - 08:29

Julian Martin

podesta part 12:

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/788718858798501888

remember that the debate is at 9pm est

October 19, 2016 - 08:30

William Kelly

Hilary won't be winning. Nobody likes her.

And this is a good thing, because if she did win she's single handedly destroy the entire Democratic Party.

October 19, 2016 - 08:33

Landon Jenkins

I'm not seeing how this is a bad thing

October 19, 2016 - 08:35

Ethan Reed

...

October 19, 2016 - 08:38

Noah Edwards

It's not, you clearly haven't talked to people. The only people who still believe the message and will actually vote for Hilary are upper class cosmopolitan white people aka her core base. This is especially true in swing states, which are doing much worse than they were eight years ago. Detroit is bankrupt, that hurt a lot of people who simply won't vote this year or will vote Republican out of frustration. Trump speaks to them.

The #1 TV News program is Fox News, because TV is for old people most of whom lean Republican anyway. Most newspapers are dead, nobody watches talk shows anymore and most Youtube viewers aren't old enough to vote.

Again, remember who votes: people over age 30 especially in a year when Hilary fucking Clinton is the Dem nominee. Turnout will be in the toilet, the average age will swing up, and Trump will have an advantage (though not a guaranteed victory).

October 19, 2016 - 08:38

Jace Watson

Nah older black folks are nostalgic as fuck about the 90's, they'll vote Clinton too. Even the ones in Detroit.

Trust me I hear Clinton support from my folks every day.

October 19, 2016 - 08:49

Daniel Flores

Well let me change that to "edging out". It's sway 5 people out of 100 who weren't certain before (or at least liked to pretend they weren't)

October 19, 2016 - 08:52

Camden Gonzalez

To expand on what I mean, polls weight likely voter and unlikely voters, and among likely voters polled nationwide Clinton is ahead by a comfortable gap. If Trump wins it would discredit polling pretty much completely.

October 19, 2016 - 08:55

Jordan Hernandez

Please clap.

October 19, 2016 - 09:10

Nathan Anderson

which are more or less comparable to cosmopolitan white people in every regard

"likely voters" is not the same as "voters". Turnout matters, and ultimately this is a thing that can only be determined on election day. Also, polls in general are heavily biased in favor of Hilary due to social desirability. Factor in shy tories and Trump will likely edge her out in many races.

October 19, 2016 - 09:11

Anthony Harris

yes, as we saw with Nixon (the person who coined the term) this bodes well for the Democrats and is not in any way indicative of the erosion of their base and their platform.

October 19, 2016 - 09:13

Brody Smith

i don't necessary disagree with their point, but it's certainly not a "new" movement. And it's one that will immediately run out of steam (assuming it even has any) if Hilary is elected, even with Obama most of the country has swung red because he didn't deliver on trade or bank reform.

October 19, 2016 - 09:14

Chase Scott

Maybe you don't see them because nobody wants to be caught dead supporting Hillary.

Or they don't exist. I know working class Democrats will NOT vote for her.

Once again, the Democrats are deluding themselves. Just because Hillary gets elected doesn't mean she has public support. It just means she just managed to appear less horrible than Trump, which won't be much of a victory.

If the Dems are expecting another Obama 08 out of this, they need to get checked into a mental hospital.

October 19, 2016 - 10:05

Gabriel Jones

What makes you say that? Seems to me that we are witness a complete decay of politics and integrity where people are willing to believe whatever bullshit Clinton says while knowing it's bullshit. Also, people don't need to like her to vote for her, this has been obvious during the whole year.

October 19, 2016 - 10:09

Bentley Myers

...

October 19, 2016 - 10:22

Zachary Sullivan

incredible

October 19, 2016 - 10:26

Eli Richardson

Shillery supporters are as usual, cringy as fuck.

Striesan effect when?

October 19, 2016 - 10:35

Nathaniel Cox

youtube.com/watch?v=dFi6LJiW3W4

Jill Stein on Inforwars. Lately it seems she's focusing her comments criticizing Hillary because she might start WWIII. Can't blame her.

October 19, 2016 - 10:39

Adam Davis

Only "core" democrats will actually bother to vote for her. She's not winning the swing vote.

October 19, 2016 - 10:46

Jaxson Perez

Literally fucking Fox News for Democrats.

October 19, 2016 - 10:47

Hudson Hughes

Gotta love the add shilling for his coffee at the end.
kek

October 19, 2016 - 10:55

Jason Wright

Believe what you want, shill.

October 19, 2016 - 10:59

Hudson Edwards

Naomi Klein being ousted by The Intercept as petite bourgeois:
theintercept.com/2016/10/19/is-disclosure-of-podestas-emails-a-step-too-far-a-conversation-with-naomi-klein/

October 19, 2016 - 11:02

Justin Ortiz

look pretty good tho ngl

i've always wanted my coffee to be woke

October 19, 2016 - 11:05

Juan Lewis

Going on infowars is a terrible idea in general. It'll just cement this idea that Jill is a crackpot.

October 19, 2016 - 11:05

Ethan Rivera

THIS HAPPENED TOO, SKIP TO 6:33

THIS IS GETTING COMPLETELY RIDICULOUS, WE HAVE LONG PASSED THE POINT WHERE THIS STOPPED BEING ACCEPTABLE.

youtube.com/watch?v=35gzCtLHO3A

October 19, 2016 - 11:28

Isaiah Long

Acceptable isn't defined in an absolute manner, it is relative to what people are willing to accept. And that standard keeps getting lower in the same movement as MSM propaganda keeps getting more blatant.

October 19, 2016 - 11:33

Michael Watson

fixed

October 19, 2016 - 11:43

Luke Perez

This is not a new strategy: just repeat the accusations against you in all their truthfulness and rationality, but let your tone and body language tell the audience that this reasonable truth is ridiculous and should be laughed at.

October 19, 2016 - 11:48

Adam Perez

That fucking "oh no".

October 19, 2016 - 12:09

Nathaniel Brooks

motherboard.vice.com/read/all-signs-point-to-russia-being-behind-the-dnc-hack

October 19, 2016 - 12:15

Xavier Lee

I love how all these "alternative" media are now ousting themselves as just controlled opposition which immediately sides with MSM when the system is questioned too much for their own comfort. Like an undercover agent that switches sides when the battle gets too much out of control for their own liking.

October 19, 2016 - 12:27

Cameron Richardson

snowden
manning
previous wiki leaks

current wiki leaks.

October 19, 2016 - 12:29

Jacob Russell

telesurtv.net/english/news/96-of-Journalist-Donors-Gave-to-ClintonBreaking-the-Rules-20161018-0032.html
96% of Journalist Donors Gave to Clinton—Breaking the Rules
raise your hands if you're surprised by this

October 19, 2016 - 13:22

Lucas Ortiz

It’s Russia & RT! Team Clinton knows who’s to blame for Podesta leaks
rt.com/usa/363345-clinton-podesta-leaks-rt/

October 19, 2016 - 13:41

Eli Hernandez

Of course not, this is completely normal. Journalists have the right to donate to whomever they want, just as you do. If almost all of them donate to Hillary what does that tell you? That everyone knows Hillary is simply the best candidate and the reason everyone hates her is because they can't stand having a woman elected.

Slavs are genetically incapable of truth, nothing new. When Clinton is elected all slavs will be gassed to prevent further lies from spreading. RT should thankful that Clinton hasn't droned them yet, but don't think she wouldn't, she's a strong woman that knows how to fuck the world with a strap-on better than men do with their dicks.

October 19, 2016 - 13:49

Hudson Harris

over at /r/wikileaks americunts justifying this / relativizing its importance:
fucking americunts/hillbots
ttps://m.reddit.com/r/WikiLeaks/comments/58aqnl/censorship_cnn_cuts_feed_of_rep_chris_collins/

October 19, 2016 - 13:59

Isaiah Williams

I don't want to be accused of being an apologist of the MSM, but it might be because of the fact that he drew a dick

October 19, 2016 - 14:01

Camden King

alexanderhiggins.com/stanford-berkley-study-1-77-billion-chance-hillary-won-primary-without-widespread-election-fraud/

October 19, 2016 - 14:02

Ethan Cox

Because:

October 19, 2016 - 14:53

Oliver Wilson

What is wrong with that? Leftist militants do the same thing.

October 19, 2016 - 15:06

Logan Moore

Crazy leftists!

October 19, 2016 - 15:10

Cameron Martinez

i hate these fucking center-right cunts

October 19, 2016 - 15:13

Benjamin Campbell

They're not "centre" right, they're just right wing. Supporting gay marriage after it hits 51% approval with the public doesn't make someone a "moderate" handmaiden to capital.

October 19, 2016 - 15:23

Aaron Howard

It makes no sense to even speak of left and right with capitalists as their only value is profit, so they will support whatever sells while preserving capitalism.
The right wing is more about nationalism, family values, etc… Hillary is personally right-wing, but her non-politics is whatever suits capitalism.

October 19, 2016 - 15:28

Juan Hill

My point is that on a purely economic level she isn't "centre" right, and the only reason she is mistaken as such is because she says she likes the gays, the blacks, etc. etc.

October 19, 2016 - 15:40

Luke Peterson

where dat debate stream whities

October 19, 2016 - 15:53

Jason Anderson

Never. The internet isn't run by amateurs anymore.

October 19, 2016 - 16:01

Andrew Howard

Yep, now even users are staged i.e. CTR

October 19, 2016 - 16:04

Ethan Wilson

This 2bh

Holla Forums has the comfiest debate streams, every Holla Forums debate stream is like ~400 people memeing at each other

October 19, 2016 - 16:10

Jordan Thompson

cytu.be/r/M-C-M

It's two hours from now, so I'll make a thread in an hour and put on a stream of the debate with it. David Harvey until then.

October 19, 2016 - 16:12

Jaxon Flores

Give 'em hell, based Julian

October 19, 2016 - 16:20

Tyler James

Isn't this a cyclical thread?

October 19, 2016 - 16:33

Ethan Rodriguez

Also Give em hell Julian!

October 19, 2016 - 16:34

Xavier Cox

...

October 19, 2016 - 16:37

Dominic Miller

give 'em 'ell Jay!

October 19, 2016 - 16:39

Jordan Moore

Give 'em hell, based Julian

October 19, 2016 - 16:40

Dominic Taylor

Give 'em hell based Julian

October 19, 2016 - 16:43

Christopher Hall

...

October 19, 2016 - 16:45

Juan Howard

good

October 19, 2016 - 16:46

Andrew Wright

give 'em Hell, based Julian

October 19, 2016 - 16:59

Sebastian Watson

Wouldnt Proportional Representation not work for something where there is only one position? It would work for the House of Representatives but not for Presidency.

I assume IRV would remove the need for elections to pick candidates that run for president.

October 19, 2016 - 17:05

Nathan Green

Some nobody named Evan McMullin in Utah is polling higher than both Hillary and Trump. This might hurt Trump's chance of winning.
archive.is/38zOr

October 19, 2016 - 17:07

Josiah Hernandez

Should not that picture be swapped?
Rats when they find food boom population until there is not food for any, this is capitalism in a nutshell.
Cockroaches are everyone for themselves and always seem to be around.

October 19, 2016 - 17:13

Kevin Roberts

cytu.be/r/M-C-M

Live stream started.

Thread:

October 19, 2016 - 17:24

Xavier Martin

Is anyone going to see Jill Stein's live steam?

October 19, 2016 - 17:40

Brody Phillips

PR would only work for multi-member bodies like Houses, Senates, and Assemblies, yes. Its greatest strength is its ability to totally eliminate Gerrymandering, if its candidates are from party lists "at large".

IRV is superior to FPtP, but while it can't fight Gerrymandering, it's the best type of system for single-winner elections.

October 19, 2016 - 17:41

Connor Torres

is she not getting arrested this year? what happened?

October 19, 2016 - 17:45

Liam Miller

...

October 19, 2016 - 17:55

Nolan Torres

Live now
Chat raid?
Post Red Squares and Stars
Alex Jones actually monitors the chat, got a reaction already

youtube.com/watch?v=nXJj1_eMEX0

October 19, 2016 - 18:11

Jace Anderson

shows how Trump is gonna be a huge joke after the 8th.

he'll go back to being a b-list celebrity and all his supporters will feel embarrassed and a lot will pretend they never supported him.

October 19, 2016 - 18:59

Christopher Butler

I'm sure all these clinton posadists will have fun drinking champagne in their bunkers while watching debate replays.

October 19, 2016 - 19:08

Anthony Gutierrez

lol, not going to happen. I am fully confident Trump will win now.

That said, even if he lost he'd start his own news network and make billions more. Pandora's box has already been opened, there is no undoing the monster that has been created. The question is if it will eat Hilary and the left this year or 2020.

October 19, 2016 - 19:48

Jacob Russell

How will Trump recover?

October 19, 2016 - 19:53

Grayson James

I was about to vote Green but Hillary is obviously the best choice.

October 19, 2016 - 19:56

Luis Cruz

Underrated post.

October 19, 2016 - 19:58

Jeremiah Smith

...

October 19, 2016 - 19:59

John Perez

s-shut up you sexist!

October 19, 2016 - 20:15

Logan Perez

that's been the main American ideology for a long time now
she's just a true American and patriot

October 19, 2016 - 21:01

Ryan Garcia

She will just set up another similar to TPP and so would Trump.

Instead of voting for Hillary just try to convince two Trump voters not to vote for him and then you vote Green. Basically it's like voting for two people at once.

October 19, 2016 - 21:28

Brayden Jackson

man did any one see that debate? because I didn't. And I'm still up at 1AM
BECAUSE ITS A FUCKING SAUNA IN MY APARTMENT

October 19, 2016 - 21:40

Jose Garcia

...

October 19, 2016 - 21:49

Justin Rodriguez

I found this in that thread:
youtube.com/watch?v=U1Qt6a-vaNM

At 26:25, it starts to reference a man named Smedley Butler.

October 19, 2016 - 21:54

Thomas Kelly

I stopped watching Stephen Shillbert long ago. Was sad to see him go.

October 19, 2016 - 22:02

Nicholas Reed

10/10

October 19, 2016 - 22:06

Hunter Edwards

Am Kentuckian. Was watching very closely, every second of that Primary & remember this shit. Lousiville(Jefferson Co.) flipped. There was another smaller county that even went completely off the board for a couple of minutes. When it came back, Hillary won it.

And even though her "win" was within the margin of error(like only by a couple of thousand votes), they all called the state for Hillary in the media.

October 19, 2016 - 22:11

Jacob Walker

Sounds like someone prompting her. Totally scripted.

October 19, 2016 - 22:36

Anthony Johnson

It's literally because it's a dick drawing.

October 20, 2016 - 01:16

David Wilson

Yeah, the bullshit part is him trying to dismiss the actual corruption/collusion. Not drawing a dick. It's obvious that's the reason it's blurred out. That poster should have pointed that out.

October 20, 2016 - 01:20

Jason Johnson

Solidarity comrade

October 20, 2016 - 01:38

Parker Bell

youtube.com/watch?v=6v148z4ISIM

Well that was unexpected. GradeAunderA will make videos breaking down the proposals of Trump and Clinton so people can make an informed choice.

And he's shitting his pants to the idea of Shillary starting WWIII, like pretty much anyone with internet connection at this point it seems.

October 20, 2016 - 02:03

Andrew Harris

Clinton Foundation’s Ties To Suspected Human Organ Trafficker

web.archive.org/2016/10/18/exposed-clinton-foundations-ties-to-suspected-human-organ-trafficker/

Despite awareness of the gruesome allegations against Thaci, the Clinton State Department appears to have approved him to attend the 2011 CGI conclave. He also attended in 2012 and 2013.

His office took advantage of the meetings, posting pictures from the events on government websites. Kosovar news outlets also picked up stories of the meetings and added pictures of Thaci meeting both of the Clintons.

Thaci even sat next to Hillary Clinton at the 2013 meeting, which was held more than six months after she left the State Department.

.

October 20, 2016 - 02:20

Noah Cox

...

October 20, 2016 - 02:22

Michael Williams

bump

October 20, 2016 - 02:49

Lucas Richardson

cyclical thread, my man

October 20, 2016 - 03:09

Joseph Cox

Unless you're talking about Jill, that's some pretty bitch-basic Holla Forumsack boilerplate you've got there. Even of the posters here who might vote for Shillary (of which I am unsure as to the existence of), I very much doubt any intend to do so for reasons beyond fear of Trump.

October 20, 2016 - 03:32

Jaxson Cooper

...

October 20, 2016 - 03:40

Isaiah Price

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/789078312043761665?s=09

New emails guys

I wonder what interesting things we'll learn today~

October 20, 2016 - 05:52

Jack Price

today we will learn that HRC is a standup person and not a Soros controlled puppet!

It's not like she will lead USA into a war if Soros tells her to

It's not like she supported war in Kosovo and now Soros owns the mining rights there

October 20, 2016 - 06:19

James Perry

It really depends on how much they struggle against the S█████ take over.

If they stick will Hillary, they'll go the way of the dinosaurs.

October 20, 2016 - 06:20

Ethan Peterson

thefreethoughtproject.com/wikileaks-email-soros-clintons-master/

kosovo-mining.org/kosovoweb/en/mining/minerals.html

sourcewatch.org/index.php/Kosovo_and_coal#Coal_and_power_companies

preportr.cohu.org/en/investigations/Kosovo-Corruption-Corporation-KEK-54

foxnews.com/us/2015/08/19/billionaire-george-soros-warms-up-to-coal-as-stock-prices-hit-bottom.html

tetratech.com/en/projects/usaid-kosovo-funded-support-to-the-kosovo-energy-corporation

civilwarpropaganda.blogspot.com/2012/09/rothschild-octopus-over-balkans.html

web.archive.org/web/20161020064542/https://off-guardian.org/2016/08/01/gulen-gate-islamic-terrorists-descend-on-the-democratic-national-convention/

October 20, 2016 - 06:21

Jonathan Sanders

what Hillary controlled by Soros politics amount to on the ground

theremustbejustice.wordpress.com/2015/09/05/albanian-monstrous-crimes-klecka-suffering-and-мurder-of-little-girl-jovana-in-klecka/

KLA has since start had full support from the Clintons.

October 20, 2016 - 06:37

Jack Bennett

People made fun of you for believing you could win the primaries, even if the superdelegates were not included. Eevryone knew Clinton cheated as early as the New Hampshie caucuses when she won all those dice rolls.

Collegehumor actually summed up your behaviour:
youtube.com/watch?v=NHS-K7OuLAc

October 20, 2016 - 07:36

Joshua Sanchez

...

October 20, 2016 - 07:52

Dylan Sanchez

Seems like there's a fair amount of dislikes. Polyps be triggered.

October 20, 2016 - 09:21

Carson White

sharylattkisson.com/newsgate-2016/

October 20, 2016 - 09:51

James Bailey

I think such blatant and direct collusion between elite and MSM is one of the apparent historical moments of this year, at least in the US. But I wonder if that's actually so, or if most people don't care anymore. The reason people are not more outraged is because they already expected it, so there's no real surprise, no real shock. And at least in this sense Hillary supporters are right: our shock is mostly forced, it requires some effort to make the scandals appear interesting because what they contain has been the new normal in our heads for some time anyway.
Maybe in the end this will all work out in the system's favor, standards of what's acceptable will be lowered even more. They're already ridiculously low as it is.

October 20, 2016 - 10:15

Ethan Long

I think it'll get more traction after the election is over. The nation is just too polarized right now for any real outrage. Try to discuss this with anyone and all they'll hear is "TRUMP".

October 20, 2016 - 10:28

Ryder Long

Similar sentiments commonly arose around the Wikileaks' earliest scoops. On the one hand, people were outraged at the spying, the massive invasion of privacy, the blatant disregard for warrants or laws, the corruption, the sheer excessive scale of classified materials and people granted access to them, and even the entire ostensible mission itself of the NSA. On the other hand, absolutely nobody except the most luddite of normalfags was even a tiny bit surprised at anything beyond the small details, and smug (wholly justified) comments about "well you use Facebook dontcha?" were ubiquitous.

October 20, 2016 - 10:31

Isaiah Peterson

I agree, but there's only so much people are willing to tolerate. The remaining Union workers will continue voting Democrat because that's what their Unions want, but everyone else will slowly erode away and either not turnout or switch Republican. Regular Coke is more popular than Diet Coke for a reason, the GOP themselves also benefit from a massively stupid base who actually believes the shit they spew.

I mean, figure who is actually writing off the leaks as "just business": boomers. A generation which will be gone in 30 years. Democracy has to be reborn with every generation, and if the Boomers fail to do that then the Democratic Party will simply die as people (except evangelicals, reactionariers, etc) stop voting. The Democrats only have power because they organized catholic union laborers in the early twentieth century, if they refuse to sell themselves to millenials (especially out of some expectation that minorities will continue loyally turning out blue) then they will loose power.

October 20, 2016 - 11:46

Carter Brooks

Also there's an important background issue here: the gentrification of hispanic immigrants. Ones that came in after 1964 (when quotas were done away with) are now grandparents who lean GOP. Ones that came in after the '84 Amnesty are hitting middle age, and are now parents and middle managers at many businesses. Meanwhile their children gentrify and become more and more "white" American with every generation. In 20 years most will likely be voting GOP especially as most border hoppers now are centracas which Mexicans themselves have always hated.

Problem is, it's hard to get reliable data on this because there is no consistent definition of "latino" or "hispanic" or "white" in the US. So Democrats will likely continue being deluded until it's too late.

October 20, 2016 - 11:51

Connor Gray

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/789188917736071169

>WikiLeaks reveals first batch of US president Barack Obama emails sent via secret address [email protected]/* */

WITNESSED

October 20, 2016 - 12:56

Christopher Howard

Have the leaks become too much for people to sift through anymore or was there just nothing juicy in the most recent release?

October 20, 2016 - 12:57

Daniel Anderson

Hopefully we'll also get bow-BAHM-uh's emails of a later date in the next Wikileaks releases, these early ones don't seem to contain anything interesting (I might be wrong though).

October 20, 2016 - 13:09

Aaron Ortiz

They're from when Obama was still campaigning the first go-around.

October 20, 2016 - 13:26

Luke Jenkins

I just read in the paper that Hispanic voter registration is down in swing states, meaning the huge Latino turn out the Democrats were expecting in response to Trump isn't going to happen.

This election man.

October 20, 2016 - 13:26

Leo Taylor

globalresearch.ca/citigroup-chose-obamas-2008-cabinet-wikileaks-document-reveals/5551327

October 20, 2016 - 13:43

Hunter Myers

This. I think Dems have seriously underestimated the importance of Obama himself in the 2008 and 2012 elections, and have just assumed that the Dems would have that same level of electoral turnout into eternity

October 20, 2016 - 13:52

Adrian Johnson

Muh boi Chris Hedges debates with a spineless shill over voting for Stein again.

youtube.com/watch?v=co-MFmOWsMs

October 20, 2016 - 13:54

Angel Diaz

Holy shit. I was hoping for this rumor to have more credibility.

October 20, 2016 - 13:58

Justin King

>The media are, for the most part, those rich people, the most successful of them ensconced well up into the higher reaches of the one percent. They also are people who like to think good of themselves, that they are "doing good." For the older ones, now in control, this comes from their "fight the power" college days, only now they are the power. How do you resolve such a contradiction? By making morally narcissistic pronouncements on behalf of the disadvantaged while privately hoping for, even working for, the status quo.

pjmedia.com/diaryofamadvoter/2016/08/09/real-reason-msm-hates-trump/

He's wrong about a lot of other stuff, but I think this perfectly encapsulates what's wrong with the talking heads in the media

October 20, 2016 - 13:59

Oliver Ortiz

Thank you for putting into words what I feeling throughout this entire election.

It's like they thought if Hillary just ran a campaign like Obama did in '08, she would easily win the presidency.

October 20, 2016 - 14:21

Blake Hernandez

Nah, they don't believe even that. They have a commodity to sell and much to fear should they fail to do what they're paid for.

You don't wanna burn one bridge too many in Land of the Free, do you? You're a good kid, ain't ya?

Money, coercion and violence is all they understand. The fruits of capitalism.

October 20, 2016 - 14:26

Jacob Foster

Most normalfags don't seem to even know about it because they're all over thirty and don't know what a twitter is.

I mean, you turn on the news and if they even bother to mention it at all it's just to say how completely not important it is.

Under 30s though are a different story.

October 20, 2016 - 15:16

Owen Reed

Wikileaks:

October 20, 2016 - 15:50

Samuel Garcia

They're completely deluded, or at least refusing to see how things have changed. In 2008 and 2012 people seriously thought Obama was going to fix things, to "make america great again", but it didn't happen. Then in 2013 he announced his support for the TPP, while pushing SOPA and exiling Snowden. The party politiburo is still operating out of their old playbook, they don't know how to respond to these criticisms because they don't see them as legitimate arguments.

October 20, 2016 - 15:50

Ayden Myers

There's a sweet spot, people under 30 are on twitter but people over 50 watch Fox News (who have gone so far to read the emails verbatim to kill time). It's the people between from 30 to 44 the Dems are targeting this year, a "new silent majority". But it won't work as it's far too small a demographic to win anything other than the hardest of hard blue states.

October 20, 2016 - 15:53

Adrian Ramirez

wikileaks is going in for the kill, right before the election

Regardless of what happens in the POTUS race, they are going to burn the Democratic party to the fucking ground. Brazile going down would be a huge stain against the party, and cause campaign donors to think twice.

October 20, 2016 - 15:58

Oliver Torres

I hope they really do, but it's also interesting to note that Wikileaks' public attitude has actually become kinda aggressive. I personally like it, but it's probably not a good PR strategy since it alienates "muh neutrality" liberals who otherwise help spread their leaks.

October 20, 2016 - 16:04

Jacob Sanchez

It's not like they are being given a choice, if Hilary wins she will come down much harder on leakers and on wikileaks if not free speech in general. They have to play the cards they have while they still can, better to use them now during an election than to wait until she's President when they won't matter nearly as much.

Also the type of liberal that cannot take to heart the phrase "clean the inside of the cup before the outside" doesn't care about wikileaks in the first place. The liberals that follow wikileaks are both "classic" ones (ie libertarians) and "reformist" ones (ie progressives) that want to see the Dem party be cleaned up.

October 20, 2016 - 16:29

Austin Ortiz

well if they keep planting people like trump as opposition, they won't need to change shit

October 20, 2016 - 18:40

Benjamin Wood

Who are the last two?

October 20, 2016 - 20:04

Tyler Baker

Please, either Trump will beat Hilary or Cruz/Rubio will. The question is not if but when. As long as the Dem party continues to be shit, it's just a constant erosion until turnout drops under 50%.

October 20, 2016 - 20:17

Kayden Rivera

Between Chu and Emanuel is Janel Napolitano. Dunno the other one.

October 20, 2016 - 20:18

Grayson Barnes

Christina Romer, (former) Chair of the Council of Economic Advisers

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christina_Romer

October 20, 2016 - 20:58

Caleb Turner

Thanks

October 20, 2016 - 21:01

Leo Wright

So Julian Castro is coming to my college Saturday

October 20, 2016 - 21:34

Josiah Russell

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/789173501458456576
twitter.com/wikileaks/status/789170993252081666

dni.gov/index.php/intelligence-community/members-of-the-ic

What the fuck is going on with this

October 20, 2016 - 21:36

Jaxson Brooks

shadowproof.com/2016/10/19/clinton-campaign-manufactured-controversy-around-sanders-planned-parenthood-comments/

OH GOLLY-GEE FUCKIN WIZZ WHODATHUNKIT?

This is the network that the Clinton administration is going to use to deflect any criticism from the left. Garbage id-pol articles are going to be everywhere.

October 21, 2016 - 01:41

Adam Price

Should I see this? I like Hedges but he's not the best debater.

October 21, 2016 - 03:41

William Hill

What will she do to S█████' supporters once she's in power?

October 21, 2016 - 03:45

Tyler Nguyen

B[e]rn them all

October 21, 2016 - 04:05

Mason Martinez

...

October 21, 2016 - 04:12

Tyler Bailey

Soros2016

October 21, 2016 - 04:14

Christian Davis

...

October 21, 2016 - 04:17

Landon Torres

He looks a bit like Sheev teebeeeitch

October 21, 2016 - 04:29

William Johnson

...

October 21, 2016 - 04:30

Jaxon Russell

Redditors gaining class consciousness
reddit.com/r/WikiLeaks/comments/58kxp9/wikileaks_alleges_there_is_no_us_election_there/d91c3vj/

October 21, 2016 - 04:59

Nicholas Wilson

youtube.com/watch?v=mHQM49njiHM

Jimmy 'Class War' Dore is going in hard on Hill-dawg voters, but isn't most of TYT backing her, including Cenk. I wonder if Dore plans on staying there.

October 21, 2016 - 05:15

Justin Hill

wsws.org/en/articles/2016/10/21/libe-o21.html

By Tom Hall
21 October 2016

October 21, 2016 - 07:04

Cooper Richardson

...

October 21, 2016 - 07:05

Gavin Williams

...

October 21, 2016 - 07:05

Julian Johnson

Dore's power level is increasing:
youtube.com/watch?v=eofJagcbyUI

October 21, 2016 - 07:49

Jose Roberts

It's like a cargo cult or the Adeptus Mechanicus. She tries to replicate the result without understanding the operating principle, lulz ensue. That or she thinks voters are all that stupid.

October 21, 2016 - 09:15

Henry King

if we're talking about the masses… they're not stupid, they don't care. whether it's us or Clinton propaganda, they don't care what we say. they will vote because it's something one does. it's a mistake to think that loud passionate people captured by cameras are representative of the majority.

October 21, 2016 - 09:26

Luke Morris

Never heard of this guy before, but I think I'm gonna go watch the rest of his videos.

October 21, 2016 - 10:13

Landon Gutierrez

Also keep in mind that Hispanics are on track to becoming the majority race relatively soon. It;ll be interesting to see how the dynamics shift.

October 21, 2016 - 10:19

John Wood

When he said "What is wrong with people? That doesn't take me a second to think of." it really hit me. It's incredible how brainwashed we all are. Even I was like "Fuck, how'd he think of that clever response? Wait a minute, that's pretty obvious in hindsight…"

October 21, 2016 - 11:04

Cameron Peterson

Anyone have that article where he funded anti-socialist campaigns? Or crushed revolutions?

Class left right be chanting 'told you so' in dismayed enjoyment.

Even Jimmy is saying we're all going to die. Damn son.

October 21, 2016 - 11:46

Adam Lopez

sourcewatch.org/index.php/Kosovo_and_coal#Coal_and_power_companies

preportr.cohu.org/en/investigations/Kosovo-Corruption-Corporation-KEK-54

>They pretend in the corporation, that due to the damage caused to KEK by “Turbo Care”, an arbitration court has automatically initiated a lawsuit against this company. Initially, the media statement by the official, Eglantina Hoxha claimed that since the transformer had failed, KEK would buy another one from Konçar company, and measures would be taken against “Turbo Care”. This never happened, and “Turbo Care”, together with its partner, “Intering” of Shoshi family continued to be awarded tenders from KEK, such as is the case of the tender on the capital repair of the steam turbine and the electric generator in Bloc A3, at the amount of 3 million euros.

Also, this article writes "Ballkan" instead of "Balkan".

civilwarpropaganda.blogspot.fr/2012/09/rothschild-octopus-over-balkans.htm
The Khazars disappeared in the XIth century, mate.
tl;dr of this article: the Khazars (who are totally not Jews) want to genocide the Serbs.

October 21, 2016 - 11:47

Hunter Walker

What's the tl;dr of the Kosovo War?

October 21, 2016 - 12:00

Jace Martinez

...

October 21, 2016 - 12:04

Henry Butler

You were nice while you lasted, Julian.

October 21, 2016 - 12:06

Juan Allen

was a reply to

Holla Forums is especially slow today imo

October 21, 2016 - 12:08

Henry Thompson

They're gonna set a perimeter, evacuate enough people so that there are no witnesses, kill him and retroactively claim he was armed and holding some hostages, aren't they?

And then the press will be praising the "brave" spec ops that ordinarily capture far more dangerous people alive with just a flashbang - while at the same time claiming that Assange is every mass murderer and child molester ever rolled into one, the second coming of Hitler, the hypostasis of the Egyptian frog god of darkness Kuk, and that he even occasionally played videogames.

October 21, 2016 - 12:21

Aiden King

Papa Wolff shined a light on this juicy recent story from The Economist in his update this week:

economist.com/blogs/gulliver/2016/10/connected

>The airlines spent $13m on lobbyists to win support for the merger in Washington. Among them were Tony Podesta, brother of Obama adviser John Podesta, and his then-wife Heather Podesta.

October 21, 2016 - 12:41

Christopher Martinez

Here's a link to the tweet
twitter.com/wikileaks/status/789493599121604609

People rightfully pointing out that in Britain, cops rarely even carry a pistol. Very shady, indeed.

October 21, 2016 - 12:53

Adrian James

He's pretty damn on point lately. Watch him call John Kerry a traitor here

youtube.com/watch?v=CLYW1ikGTb4

October 21, 2016 - 13:01

Dylan Butler

On the other hand… en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplomatic_Protection_Group
However, these units use MP5s, while in WikiLeaks' photo there is some other type of weapon, perhaps G36.

October 21, 2016 - 13:02

Aiden Diaz

These fags are getting a little old with their anti-Green disinformation.

October 21, 2016 - 13:05

Lucas Collins

Seriously.. That's basically all Stein talks about in recent times. And didn't they just come out with an anti-capitalist platform this year?

October 21, 2016 - 13:07

James Baker

This. I was feeling this article till they were hitting B████ and Jill.

October 21, 2016 - 13:09

Adrian Green

Yes, the anti-capitalist plank was highlighted and passed to thunderous applause at the national convention in Houston.

October 21, 2016 - 13:09

Josiah Long

Ajamu Baraka even talked about wanting to use the government to start up worker cooperatives during the vice presidential debate. Maybe I should go back and get a clip of it.

October 21, 2016 - 13:12

Christopher Nelson

10/10

October 21, 2016 - 13:21

Julian Torres

It was good, but i fucking hate Jimmy Dore

October 21, 2016 - 13:50

Jonathan Hall

why?

October 21, 2016 - 13:52

Henry Reyes

Give him time fam, we can make him come around eventually.

October 21, 2016 - 13:55

Benjamin Nguyen

I´m not the biggest fan of Jimmy "Liberal to the core" Dore either but he has been improving.

October 21, 2016 - 13:57

Eli Jenkins

He's a flaming liberal. For Example: after every terrorist attack, he suddenly becomes a historical expert on the crusades lmao.

October 21, 2016 - 13:59

Henry Lee

The posts on this thread are literally my first introduction to him, and I've been going through all his recent vids where he's been a pretty clear progressive. Was he like establishment Democrat previously or something?

October 21, 2016 - 13:59

Alexander Roberts

Well he works for TYT, so he's currently a Clinton shill

October 21, 2016 - 14:02

Leo Bennett

He's associated with TYT, is on their show a lot. So people are turned off from that. I stopped watching TYT of course, but towards the end Jimmy never wavered or endorsed Clinton.

Some of his social positions are a little much, though. I think kind of idpol-y. But he's getting better, I think.

October 21, 2016 - 14:02

William Wright

No, he's not. He's on the shows, but never endorses Clinton & is one of the only ones to shit on her, still.

October 21, 2016 - 14:03

Liam Hughes

And yet we were evil "Bernie Bros" if we made a "right-wing attack" on Hillary Clinton. It's shit like this that makes me want to fucking strangle them.

It's like looking at an overgrown garden and claiming that one particular weed is the problem.

October 21, 2016 - 14:10

Grayson Robinson

Ajamu Baraka interviewed by Truthdig today:

youtube.com/watch?v=ZrSoayt2DzU

October 21, 2016 - 14:12

Hudson Watson

Holy shit, Dore was great.

October 21, 2016 - 14:20

Matthew Morales

Ajamu "Drop a Cop, Start a Co-op" Baraka

October 21, 2016 - 14:42

Christian Cooper

Putin pwns US. Too bad most Americans will never see this.

youtube.com/watch?v=Nnqx6PYLqoQ

I want to fuck Putin. I know he's corrupt as well, but something about him I find so sexy. Just felt the need to share that.

October 21, 2016 - 14:59

Julian Anderson

What's funny is that American politicians are always so hysterical about everything, while the countries their empire is constantly threatening are actually very sardonic towards America. It's funny considering America hysterically paints itself as the most rational and progressive country on Earth, and others as backwards, irrational and envious.

youtube.com/watch?v=9EorruzWn6s
youtube.com/watch?v=XQGTNacnotE

October 21, 2016 - 16:07

Nathan Wilson

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/789574436219449345
Are they expecting something to happen?

October 21, 2016 - 16:26

Cameron Green

Did you not see this one: twitter.com/wikileaks/status/789493599121604609

October 21, 2016 - 16:27

Robert Gomez

truth-out.org/news/item/38068-blackstone-s-tony-james-touting-what-looks-like-hillary-s-scheme-to-gut-social-security

October 21, 2016 - 16:41

Logan Ross

twitter.com/seanhannity/status/789568329555910656
what did he mean by this?

October 21, 2016 - 16:45

Kevin Morgan

Wasn't he in support of Bush and the Iraq war?

October 21, 2016 - 16:47

Dylan Long

he works for fox, what do you think?
I really hate all the alt-righters and trumptards latching onto wikileaks, especially since they were the same people who wanted to assassinate Assange not even 5 years ago

October 21, 2016 - 16:49

Connor King

This.
I'm fearful of how this is gonna affect Wikileaks and their reputation.

October 21, 2016 - 16:52

Jaxson Campbell

...

October 21, 2016 - 16:53

Lucas White

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/789616377111928832

Apparently Jane S█████ begged B████ not to endorse Clinton. :(

October 21, 2016 - 16:59

Gabriel Torres

She's referring to Gov. Shumlin of Vermont.

October 21, 2016 - 17:01

Jayden Brooks

404 page

October 21, 2016 - 17:02

Carter Campbell

So they understood they got it wrong?

October 21, 2016 - 17:04

Jace Bell

Nothing surprising about this. The criticism/praise Wikileaks has gotten has been entirely partisan. When they were exposing crimes of a right-wing administration, Democrats cheered and Republicans called for heads. When it's a Dem campaign that's being exposed, vice versa. It's never been about principally supporting the exposure of truth.

October 21, 2016 - 17:05

Noah Lopez

Ok, they must be correcting it, then.

October 21, 2016 - 17:08

Michael Reyes

This shows how bad Wikileaks can be at interpreting what they themselves release and why it's good that they just dump everything they have, instead of trying to create stories about it (like Greenwald did with Snowden).
wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/22901#efmAA4ACHAD8AFO
change his mind [and support Jane's husband B████ instead]
Written on the same day as the email:
vtdigger.org/2015/05/20/shumlin-endorses-hillary-clinton-for-president/

They've become too trigger-happy.

October 21, 2016 - 17:09

Camden Edwards

So the Secretary of HUD is coming to my college tomorrow. Anything you want me to ask him Holla Forums?

October 21, 2016 - 17:09

Owen Wright

truth-out.org/opinion/item/38082-the-threat-of-a-right-wing-supreme-court-analyzing-trump-s-prospective-justices

What do you guys think? It doesn't really matter since Clinton is gonna win, but hypothetically if it was a close race, do you think this op-ed has a point?

October 21, 2016 - 17:15

Aiden Sanchez

What did he mean by this?

October 21, 2016 - 17:15

Jackson Cruz

He's referring to Ryan's statement where he's scared that B████'s gonna get that position.

October 21, 2016 - 17:17

Logan Brown

CHAIRMAN SLICK 2016

October 21, 2016 - 17:21

Isaac Williams

That a specter is haunting our society — the specter of everything being turned into memes.

October 21, 2016 - 17:25

Juan Mitchell

Libs need to get it in their head that no one is coming for their abortions or their gay marriages. Definitely not abortions, everyone wants population control. Same-sex marriage now has a legal precedent that is difficult to argue against and again few give enough of a fuck.

Aside from that, we're guaranteed a Porky-led SC either way. Clinton is basically a Republican at heart, always has been, and she will appoint judges which will do their best to eviscerate human rights and especially workers' rights. The neoliberal consensus is clear. Trump's court picks will be an absolute disaster too, but in all the ways that have far-reaching ramifications they'll do the exact same fucking thing. There is no place in the system for someone with principles, austerity rules.

October 21, 2016 - 17:59

Chase James

Good argument.

October 21, 2016 - 18:07

Adrian Scott

Assange gave a speech at the embassy door today:

youtube.com/watch?v=6_bVVAVwfSQ

October 21, 2016 - 19:03

Benjamin Nelson

It's fake, from 2012.

October 21, 2016 - 19:05

Wyatt Russell

fug

October 21, 2016 - 19:26

Evan Green

Can't say I'm surprised at this point, but it's hilarious how this idiot continues to be on the wrong side of history.

October 21, 2016 - 19:30

Andrew James

This is an innermost satisfaction of joy.

October 21, 2016 - 19:34

Noah Robinson

Brianna Wu - Gulag? [Y/N]

October 21, 2016 - 19:37

Robert Gray

Where is the option as such?

October 21, 2016 - 19:38

Josiah Ross

What are you talking about? The people that wanted Assange assassinated were Fox-watching neocon grandpas that think "national security" excuses any unsavory action performed by the US government, not racist 18 year old shitposters

October 21, 2016 - 19:50

Blake Reed

...

October 21, 2016 - 19:52

Nolan Turner

Note: This is the same guy that said it's illegal for citizens to read Wikileaks emails, and only Trusted™ Objective™ media outlets can to report (obviously false).

Someone hold me, cause this is some eerie Big Brother shit going on.

youtube.com/watch?v=d_Wtu8Pzvd4

October 21, 2016 - 19:52

Owen Murphy

...

October 21, 2016 - 19:56

Brayden Johnson

And now "the left" (or what is falsely perceived to be the left, i.e. liberals) are denouncing Wikileaks all over social media. Twitter, reddit, etc. You can't go anywhere on these sites without dumbfuck liberals and CTR shills claiming that Wikileaks is """LITERALLY"'" run out of the basement of the Kremlin. You also have celebrities doing it too. Talib Kweli earlier today basically called Wikileaks white supremacists because they are "helping Trump." Fucking sickening bourgeois ideology.

October 21, 2016 - 20:22

Charles Adams

As the other user said, most of it was simple tribal politics. Romney was roundly mocked by Democrats for his "dated, Cold-War-era" views on Russia, and now Democrats are hysterically panicking about FSB agents stuffing ballot boxes for Trump, and President Trump tacitly endorsing a Russian invasion and occupation of eastern Europe

October 21, 2016 - 20:49

Charles Cooper

…I like that it's an american-made Thompson, just like other weapons americans gave to people they thought would be mass murderers

October 21, 2016 - 20:51

Ryder Allen

Pretty much.

October 21, 2016 - 21:07

Benjamin Brown

tfw criticizing the ruling class is basically being made illegal and no one seems to give a shit

October 21, 2016 - 21:22

Jackson Edwards

I want to visit his grave in PA sometime when I have money.

October 21, 2016 - 21:33

Joshua James

...

October 21, 2016 - 21:37

Henry Collins

Honestly, what if the leaks are coming straight from the Kremlin? If our own law enforcement and intelligence agencies are unwilling to root out corruption for the American public to see, as proven by cowards like Comey, who could possibly object to any foreign powers willing to do our job for us?

SLICKEST EVER

October 21, 2016 - 21:51

Tyler Allen

Ever since the convention and seeing Larry i am been incapable of being happy at anything Birdie Seedman does no matter how slick it is tbh.

October 21, 2016 - 22:08

Jace Richardson

I think I just managed to make Trump lose a vote and gained a Jill Stein vote. Second person I managed to change their view. The first was a Nazi girl I scared with trumps Jewish ties and his Zionism and ties to the Rothchilds and Rockafellers.

October 21, 2016 - 22:19

Jack White

Plus you saved them from a future of lolbertism

October 21, 2016 - 22:20

Josiah Collins

Saw a lanky girl wearing a "Feel The Johnson" pin with a picture of smiling Gary Johnson in the middle of it. First time I've actually seen something humorous out of all the shit in this election that actually tries to be funny. Thank you politically aware girl

October 21, 2016 - 22:31

Lincoln Powell

Well just the one really. The nazi girl was just obtaining from voting unless she changed her mind again. The one I got to go Green already is the kind of person that fits their demographic she just didnt know they existed.

October 21, 2016 - 23:08

Matthew Johnson

Has the State Department blamed yesterday's massive Dyn DDoS on the evil Russkies yet?

October 22, 2016 - 01:04

Wyatt Hall

She's dying to be relevant again. Ignore it. That's a fate worse than death for them.

October 22, 2016 - 02:31

Logan Perez

...

October 22, 2016 - 02:31

Jordan Turner

you did that on purpose

October 22, 2016 - 02:48

Connor Hughes

Yeah, I dunno. I guess if someone's a POS we can ignore their pronouns. It made me feel awkward so I just went with one. I'd prefer just not give them any attention.

October 22, 2016 - 03:05

Ethan Lee

What does controlling the Senate Budget Committee really do, anyway?
What does that committee do?

October 22, 2016 - 04:31

Caleb Young

They write up the annual budget which the president either approves or denies. With B████ effectively in charge of the budget one would assume more money would be allocated for infrastructure, education, social security, medicare/medicaid and so on. But in reality it'll just mean more discretionary spending, i.e. more money for defense.

October 22, 2016 - 04:38

Jacob Cox

Just started watching the All Smith dinner and
Well there goes what doubt I still had that he's her plant.

October 22, 2016 - 05:16

Juan Cruz

I think it's more the case that he's a really bad debater. While the speech was prewritten.

October 22, 2016 - 05:46

Jack King

It might also represent an opportunity to unmask a lot of pork. Especially since the Republicans set a precedent for viciousness a few years back by unbundling the decades-long tradition of passing farm subsidies and food stamps as one piece of legislation.

October 22, 2016 - 06:24

Isaiah Ortiz

D:

October 22, 2016 - 07:01

Carter Brown

reddit.com/r/DNCleaks/comments/58ne2p/podesta_moneylaundering_confirmed/

Anyone that's seen Wolff's October update might recognize this.

I guess Podesta is tired of paying his taxes :^)

October 22, 2016 - 07:03

Brayden Cox

youtube.com/watch?v=6_bVVAVwfSQ

Assange speaking at Ecuadorian embassy.

October 22, 2016 - 08:33

Owen Green

The very first comment says that the video is from 2012

October 22, 2016 - 08:35

Angel Barnes

My bad. I'd just clicked it & hadn't watched yet.

Time to flag those dicks.

October 22, 2016 - 09:11

Nicholas Lee

for

October 22, 2016 - 09:11

Josiah Watson

disinfo

October 22, 2016 - 09:14

Dominic Sanchez

reddit.com/r/WikiLeaks/comments/58s2nt/a_4chan_analysis_on_whether_wikileaks_is/

[panic intensifies]

October 22, 2016 - 09:20

John Miller

Nah

youtube.com/watch?v=VvrLTBvWpd8

It's from 2012

October 22, 2016 - 09:22

Ethan Walker

come again?

then why are they talking about an event that happened in 2012? (10:00)

rt.com/news/oas-ecuador-uk-theats-asylum-984/

October 22, 2016 - 09:23

Wyatt Evans

wat

October 22, 2016 - 09:26

Jack Russell

The misspellings in WL's recent tweets appear to spell out a message.

October 22, 2016 - 09:28

Nicholas Torres

But why?

Is Assange not safe? Has WL been compromised?

October 22, 2016 - 09:30

Carter Brooks

Interesting..

October 22, 2016 - 09:30

Grayson Flores

To add to the intrigue, it appears that subreddit has been compromised as well. New people were given full admin rights and now posts are disappearing.

October 22, 2016 - 09:35

Isaac Rogers

It seems very possible. The /r/wikileaks sub is having a conniption fit because two new mods were just added with complete mod rights that apparently began to fuck up the sub. One was a known CTR shill from /r/politics called LolElectronics, and the other is julio08.

Coinciding with alot of stuff that happened yesterday, everyone is panicking. No one seems to know if the wikileaks sub, much less the wikileaks twitter, has been subverted/co-opted. Some people are saying Julian is safe, some that he's been captured, and there are even rumors that he's managed to escape. There are theories that the twitter has been taken over in order to discredit it. There was also an apparent "gas scare" at the London airport at the same time Podesta was supposed to be in London.

reddit.com/r/WikiLeaks/

Check it out. Shit is wack. Everyone's arguing about trying to confirm Assange's whereabouts/status, whether to ignore it and keep sifting through emails, what to do about the mods and recent influx of posters, etc.

Nothing is okay.

October 22, 2016 - 09:38

Caleb Clark

...

October 22, 2016 - 09:41

Henry Richardson

reddit.com/r/WikiLeaks/comments/58toku/heads_up_something_possibly_fishy_with_these/

[[[[PANIC]]]]

October 22, 2016 - 09:41

Jonathan Wilson

mobile.twitter.com/Sentinel2NO/status/789804267439697921

Kim DotCom's house just got raided, too

October 22, 2016 - 09:47

Ayden Murphy

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/789846941689602048

October 22, 2016 - 10:14

Isaac Taylor

archive.is/Nqex6

Yesterday's huge DDoS came from McConnell Air Force Base…

October 22, 2016 - 10:16

Jason Robinson

Disappointing. I was hoping that a non-state actor could do something like this.

October 22, 2016 - 10:21

Grayson Sullivan

The same type of shit started happening in the r/S4P subreddit. Too much infighting & shills, then it became impossible to have a conversation. I hope people stay on task.

October 22, 2016 - 10:25

Christian Martinez

Wouldn't surprise me if it was just a test for November 8th.

October 22, 2016 - 10:28

Juan Cox

Cenk "What Armenian Genocide?" Ugyur interviewed Jill Stein at a town hall yesterday:

youtube.com/watch?v=TWnX-sVdego

October 22, 2016 - 10:32

Ryan Jenkins

I think it's safe to assume at this point that WL's Twitter account has been compromised. The question is whether or not Julian is alive and/or in custody.

October 22, 2016 - 10:39

Eli Stewart

There's some serious concern trolling going on. This is psyops pure and simple.

October 22, 2016 - 10:47

Brayden Fisher

There's nothing to suggest that anything actually happened to Assange.

Or just people wanting another media sensation. Don't underestimate a desire for events in a world where almost nothing ever truly happens.

October 22, 2016 - 10:52

Levi Smith

what? Did Trump's mean words hurt your fee-fees? Grow the fuck up.

October 22, 2016 - 10:59

Leo Scott

...

October 22, 2016 - 11:01

Cooper Johnson

Looks like CTR to me.

October 22, 2016 - 11:07

Tyler Hill

Seriously. All of a sudden r/wikileaks is filled with drama? CTR's M.O., for sure.

October 22, 2016 - 11:12

Nolan Gray

have Trump's "scandals" been any more than liberal PC outrage?

October 22, 2016 - 11:19

Aiden Lee

what did they mean by this?

October 22, 2016 - 11:27

Liam Parker

who gives a shit? even without the made up scandals he's still trash.

October 22, 2016 - 11:31

Bentley Sanchez

There's plenty involving stiffed workers, organized crime in casinos, sleazy real estate deals, bribed officials, accounting fraud, and such. But none of those are the sort of things the corporate media enjoys talking about, so it's all triggered SJWs, all the time.

October 22, 2016 - 11:33

Gavin Johnson

4ch now autobans you if you try to post "Ben Fischbein"

October 22, 2016 - 11:40

William Sanders

Brace for another exodus?

October 22, 2016 - 11:46

Jose Jenkins

Its true, I just tried it.

October 22, 2016 - 11:50

Wyatt Sullivan

I'm already here

(only because I got an infinite ban on the Holla Forums here for making a Kaisch thread six months ago)

October 22, 2016 - 11:50

John Thomas

What did Larry do wrong?

October 22, 2016 - 11:51

Jordan Rivera

...

October 22, 2016 - 11:53

Isaiah Cruz

How?

October 22, 2016 - 11:54

Camden Brooks

He said all that stuff in the debates. These were just in joke formats.

October 22, 2016 - 11:54

James Harris

I'm not sure what to believe. I don't know why they haven't just taken a pic with timestamp.

October 22, 2016 - 11:57

Aiden Miller

This theory makes sense tbh:

October 22, 2016 - 12:02

Hunter Clark

Larry lost the Whitney by-election
He was beaten by the equivalent of establishment Democrats

October 22, 2016 - 12:03

Jason Moore

But that's what they want you to think, NSA aren't dumb.

October 22, 2016 - 12:10

Jaxon Cook

Ok my head hurts now.

October 22, 2016 - 12:12

Mason Nguyen

by election day it'll be tied or a slight swing towards Trump

remember that we could have had S█████

October 22, 2016 - 12:20

Jacob Rodriguez

This is one of her better interviews, should really watch it fams.

October 22, 2016 - 12:24

Noah Ward

Useful page that refutes lies against Wikileaks: wikileaks.org/10years/distorted-facts.html

October 22, 2016 - 12:37

Sebastian Evans

Welcome aboard fam. Read some theory, or at least Stirner.

October 22, 2016 - 12:41

Mason Gomez

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/789894503146676225
Just FYI: there are government shills out there telling people that Wikileaks has become a government honeypot in order to discourage people from leaking anything to them. Don't believe them.

Notice that they haven't confirmed Assange is alive and well at all. Assange could take a photo of himself+newspaper and send it via mobile network (MMS), or he could do the same with a text encrypted with his private PGP key. The reason there's been no mention of Assange's state is because they don't want people to start asking for a proof, it's smoother to simply ignore the issue and let people remain in a confused state, arguing with each other. They have probably already taken over Wikileaks and turned it into a government honeypot.

Just kidding. You can't really tell what's true and what not when you live in a (social) media reality.

October 22, 2016 - 12:49

Easton Gray

But that last tweet IS weird. Wikileaks'in the past has always been honest and reverent as to how dangerous it is to leak to them.

They always tell anyone who is considering leaking info to them that they take every precaution to scrub any data that could lead back to the leakers but there are other ways outside the control of Wikileaks that a leakers ID could be revealed.

It's odd to see them use guilt to encourage people to leak

October 22, 2016 - 13:07

Adam Howard

Seems the campaign to get us to question Wikileaks is working.

October 22, 2016 - 13:28

Adam Murphy

Finally found a Chairman Jimmy video I liked so much I had to encode it. Not sure if this is good enough though; the quality took a pretty substantial hit to get it this small. What does user think?

October 22, 2016 - 13:32

Nathan Allen

This is a very intense situation though, they're not releasing something that has already happened but that is in the process of happening. This is the first time that they have inserted themselves so directly into some governmental process. So it's not so weird for them to start taking positions and welcoming any help they can get.

October 22, 2016 - 13:34

Camden Phillips

Definitely. I'm just gonna remain skeptical, but grounded until I see definitely proof Julia is ok.

That alt-right guy Neil Turner keeps spamming that. Could you explain how it works?

October 22, 2016 - 13:36

Mason James

shouldve just posted the youtube link

October 22, 2016 - 13:37

Joshua Collins

Good video refuting anti-vax smearing, but I'm kinda troubled at how Jimmy sorta leaves anti-vax as an open possibility.

October 22, 2016 - 13:38

Parker Moore

It's here:

youtube.com/watch?v=XdZQ0zzPxZA

I cut it down a bit.

October 22, 2016 - 13:38

Noah Ward

...

October 22, 2016 - 13:39

Carter Nelson

Only WikiLeaks public key can validate a message sign by WikiLeaks private key.

Assuming porky didnt find the private key it causes a message was who it says sent it. It's mathematically impossible to repudiate it

October 22, 2016 - 13:42

Noah Myers

I agree. It seemed like up until now, Wikileaks let their reputation speak for itself.

Not that weird post = government honeypot, but it does raise an eyebrow.

tbh you should always question wikileaks

This sounds like the best course of action imo

October 22, 2016 - 13:42

Jeremiah Sullivan

I pray this is the case

October 22, 2016 - 13:43

Luis Murphy

In PGP encryption there's public and private key. Whatever you encrypt with one, can be decrypted only with the other, and vice versa. You give your public key to other people, while you keep your private key only for yourself.
Normally there are two use cases:
1. to ensure the privacy of the message. you encrypt your message with someone else's public key. only that person's private key can decrypt the message, so you can be sure only that person will be able to read it
2. to ensure the authenticity of the author. you "sign" your message with your own private key. whoever you send the message to can be sure it comes from you because only your public key can verify the signature

October 22, 2016 - 13:48

Colton Sullivan

Not a tech-savvy guy here. What's being encrypted?
What happens when someone decrypts with wrong key?

October 22, 2016 - 13:52

Joseph Hernandez

Addendum: holy shit, /r/wikileaks is overrun with ctr. I don't know if the sub/twitter have been compromised, but someone definitely seems to want people to think so.

October 22, 2016 - 14:07

Nicholas Watson

This one's great as well, but sadly ruined at the start by that annoying Hillary shill with his pointless hair-splitting:
youtube.com/watch?v=y0U0wGAlpgM

Forgot to add, Assange would use the 2nd case. He would sign a message with his private key that only he knows, so we could verify that it really comes from him.

1. You can encrypt whatever data you want (text, files) so that it stays unreadable for unintended receivers. 2. Or you can "sign" it - which usually means the data is plain to see for everybody but the receivers can then verify that it was signed with a specific private key (e.g. Assange's), that it really comes from that person.
If you use the wrong key it doesn't work. You have to use the correct private-public key pair. So Assange's public key (that people already have) could verify only a message from Assange himself because only he has the private key that matches. Verifying a fake message from NSA with Assange's public key would give you a "bad signature" error.
ssd.eff.org/en/module/introduction-public-key-cryptography-and-pgp

October 22, 2016 - 14:13

Luke Morales

So the real leaks/emails would have the real private key? The key attached to the encrypted files?

October 22, 2016 - 14:19

Dylan Hall

Guys, I'm apprehensive about the future tbh. If Hillary Clinton's people can infiltrate 4chan, what's to stop them from taking over one Twitter account? If these are the things they're capable of, how can it be spoken of without people saying that such things are what Trump would do, so don't be ridiculous, how could Hillary do this, she's an angel grandmother.

October 22, 2016 - 14:24

Charles Ross

They would be signed with the real private key. Assange's wouldn't give his private key away, the signature is merely a proof he owns his real private key (the signature is verified by the public key which everyone can get), so it's a proof it's really Assange.

October 22, 2016 - 14:25

Parker Cooper

I forgot to remove my porky face.

October 22, 2016 - 14:26

Landon Mitchell

The current mail vote numbers don't look good either. Trump is up about 10% in both Wisconsin and Florida. If both swing red, then Hilary is toast. Of course, the election is not over and obviously the majority of votes will be cast on election day itself, and there is probably a Republican bias with mail voters. But at least for myself it reinforces my gut feeling that ultimately Hilary will loose when it comes to final turnout.

October 22, 2016 - 14:34

Alexander Cruz

Not exactly. Perhaps a more abstract, and concrete way of explaining public key cryptography is such:

If I wanted to send you an email with sensitive information, I would ask for your public key. You send me your public key, and I send you back the output of pub(message), where pub(x) is the encryption of a message, with a public key. Then, you take the pub(message) I sent you, and use your private key on it, so priv(pub(message)). Applying the private key to the encrypted message, undoes the encryption and you can read my message.

Now, we can also go the other way as well. I give out my public key, and everyone knows it, I "verify" with people in real life (this is called the web of trust) that they have my real key. Now, assuming no one else has access to my private key, I can send out priv(message) to everyone, which is called "signing" the data. Since everyone has my public key, and it's "trusted" and been "verified", anyone who has my public key can decrypt my message, and see what I sent and be convinced that it came from the particular source.

Applying this to what is happening with Wikileaks, we would like Assange to send out priv(message), where the message could say "we haven't been compromised, I'm still alive, …" etc. Then, since we all his public key, we can decrypt the message and read his message, and it's been verified to come from him.

October 22, 2016 - 14:38

Jason Scott

The second example I get.
The first one not so much.
Is there 2 different sets of public-private keys? Why would my private key work with a message encrypted by you? Wouldn't I use your public key?

October 22, 2016 - 14:59

Noah Diaz

reddit.com/r/WikiLeaks/comments/58vgho/lets_clear_up_some_rumors/

\o/

October 22, 2016 - 15:21

Henry Phillips

If you feel down just remember that Hillary will die in your life time. There will be a public celebration, just like when Thatcher died. Ding dong the witch is dead and all that.

In the first case that user described the message is encrypted by user with your public key. So only your private key can decrypt it. It's the reverse of the second case, where you would encrypt (sign) with your private key so that user can decrypt (verify) it with your public key.
So this is all done with your key pair. And then the same two cases can be done with user's key pair, where the two of you reverse the roles completely.
The beauty of it is that from a simple symmetric logic (public->private key vs. private->public key) you achieve two essential use cases of secure communication (hiding the contents vs. verifying the source).

October 22, 2016 - 15:27

Owen Morris

If it is them, their employees must be fucking drained.

October 22, 2016 - 15:36

Dominic Reed

Looks like Hillary did get slipped at least one of the questions ahead of time during one of the last debates.

youtube.com/watch?v=jDEbWf5RhYw

October 22, 2016 - 15:41

Nicholas Diaz

Thank you, user. That does feel good to remember.

♪ ♫ Oh happy day ♫ ♪

October 22, 2016 - 15:42

Oliver Ortiz

It was during the primaries, when Donna Brazile worked for CNN.

October 22, 2016 - 15:46

Asher Rodriguez

Her response to this was incredible. You can tell all of them obviously have talking points & aren't supposed to deviate from them, at all.

youtube.com/watch?v=q-JChl8w6oQ

October 22, 2016 - 15:49

Lucas Roberts

How about this one:
youtube.com/watch?v=VOuoX6ooOy0
Another angle:
youtube.com/watch?v=N68pUbnK_io

October 22, 2016 - 16:00

Kevin Myers

DC getting glassed a minute or two before my hometown will be cold comfort I think.

October 22, 2016 - 16:08

Levi Mitchell

Just got banned from /r/Wikileaks

SUSPICIOUS AS FUCK

October 22, 2016 - 16:19

Jordan Williams

Sorry to hear that Ginjeet

October 22, 2016 - 16:23

Matthew Harris

Stop concern trolling. When you concern troll you're part of the CTR effort to destabilize the leak-hunters. It's sick when people do CTR's work for them.

October 22, 2016 - 16:23

James Gray

What's the problem with running a sub based on the same philosophy it promotes?

October 22, 2016 - 16:24

Nathaniel Rivera

You should be looking at the present situation rationally rather than giving in to panic. That's what "they" want, and I'm convinced CTR is egging on the paranoia in order to distract from meaningful discussion.

Right now, until I see a live address from JA, I'm going to assume he is no longer with us, and that WL's staff have taken over. Reading too much into WL's twitter is a waste of energy, for now we can only assume that WL staff have taken over or, at worst, whoever owns WL's twitter has sold out.

Unless someone can prove the emails are being tampered now, we should assume that everything in the leaks is legit, and if they are being curated we should figure out how they're being tampered and go from there. Useless speculation and paranoia leads nowhere.

This is a standard disinformation technique to control public opinion.

October 22, 2016 - 16:30

Wyatt Sullivan

I've asked their reason for the ban, got this. If this is their way of handling the situation they are making it worse.

October 22, 2016 - 16:35

Isaac Green

Apparently it's forcing CTR into the open.

October 22, 2016 - 16:36

David Robinson

Literally the first mistake of your life. Come to Europa where you will be able to have mutant babies.

What about this: they think you're CTR trying to disrupt their focus on leaks with conspiracy theories. I mean, you're all so trigger-happy with paranoid accusations, friendly fire is nothing surprising.
Just focus on leaks, post yours and others findings on twitter or wherever you can. Journalists are checking what others discover.

Podesta emails can be verified due to embedded DKIM signatures, if you have any suspicions of new releases:
reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/58llkw/authenticating_wikileaks_podesta_emails/

October 22, 2016 - 16:49

Robert Stewart

>reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/58llkw/authenticating_wikileaks_podesta_emails/
Why are they needing to be verified? Wikileaks has an impeccable accuracy record. If you're getting them from the site, should be fine.

October 22, 2016 - 16:53

Mason Flores

I think that's more likely than anything else, really. Their Todd and Clare ruse failed, so they cut off Assange's internet out of spite/last resort.

Last we heard out of the Ecuadorians, they implied Assange was still there. Unless this too is a ruse and none of Assange's associates have noticed, I imagine Julian going dark until the election was a requirement for him to stay in the embassy. I think that would be the compromise Ecuador would go for to keep Assange and not have the door to their embassy kicked in by the Americans/British.

Assange is neutralized, the Americans are appeased, and Ecuador keeps from getting CIA'd.The fact that it gives CTR an opportunity to rile and distract the nerds on reddit that have been the main batch of autists sifting through and disseminating this emails is a nice bonus as well.

I was looking at Here4Popcorn's post history (reddit.com/user/Here4Popcorn) a little while ago, and his account is only 2 months old. He's also a moderator of

/r/WikiLeaks
/r/DNCleaks
/r/WikileaksTaskForce
/r/GucciferLeaks
/r/SorosLeaks
/r/PolitiLeaks
/r/Here4Popcorn
/r/WikileaksCommunity

Which to me is suspicious as all hell. I'm not sure what to make of him, really. His posts don't scream "shill!" to me, but at the same time I find his mod status in so many leak-related subs and his all-too-convenient arrival on /r/wikileaks to be major red flags. He's another "outside" mod as well, and I think there's something to alot of the community complaints. Devistator modded out of nowhere two nobodies that "volunteered" to mod the sub, but are there really no wikileaks regulars that the community can decide on themselves? Sketch as fuck.

Maybe it's just me, but looking at the post histories for Devistator/Here4Popcorn side by side (reddit.com/user/Devistator) makes it seem like they have a very similar voice. Or maybe they just have a similarly shitty attitude.

That definitely is a benefit, yeah.

October 22, 2016 - 16:54

William Flores

I'm skeptical about the whole thing, asking for the most direct way to address the issue is paranoia how?

October 22, 2016 - 16:54

Easton Stewart

Only if you think the whole of Wikileaks has been compromised. I myself don't think this is the case at all. But if somebody has any doubts there's actually something they can do to verify the emails, so I'm just letting people know.

I understand, but you have to understand as well that two opposed skeptical stances can escalate into paranoid effects, one stance agitating the other, when both are actually friendly but don't know if the other is. There are many cases of this in all sorts of domains, e.g. in military situations. The sub does have CTR visitors, and the mods are just mowing down anything that might try to discredit the sub, whether directly or through concern trolling.

And this whole conversation servers precisely the system, to keep us totally confused about what's real and what isn't, instead of staying determined. A bit analogous to how Snowden revelations actually normalized people even more, not daring to search certain keywords, etc., instead of making them abandon those tools of control in the first place.

October 22, 2016 - 17:27

Austin Long

You made me see your point. Thanks.

October 22, 2016 - 17:29

Aiden Cooper

I think once we see hit pieces pouring into the news that "Wiileaks published fake leaks", we'll know we need to check. I know there's been one or two stories so far, but they were easily debunked.

So if Wikileaks' Twitter is compromised, we'll see that sort of heavy attack shortly afterwards.

October 22, 2016 - 17:34

Joshua Ortiz

>Gavin Macfadyen, beloved director of WikiLeaks, now takes his fists and his fight to battle God. Sock it to him, forever, Gavin. -JA
twitter.com/wikileaks/status/789987961123188736
So Assange is apparently online, or is at least in contact with the rest of the team.

October 22, 2016 - 17:46

Adrian Jones

Is there anything that could be gained by the establishment from wikileaks signing something with their PGP private key?

I mean, hate to be paranoid, but…

October 22, 2016 - 18:08

Xavier Jones

...

October 22, 2016 - 18:16

Cameron Evans

Sixteen days until either side is anally devistated beyond recognition.

October 22, 2016 - 20:40

Cooper Foster

So how significant of a position is Chairman of the Senate Budget Committee? It sounds like it has a good deal of power to it.

Could this be his way of assuming direct control?

October 22, 2016 - 22:03

Ian White

I'm glad I'm not an American

October 22, 2016 - 22:08

Bentley Brown

...

October 22, 2016 - 22:38

Evan Myers

And yet immigrants are to blame.

October 22, 2016 - 22:44

Isaiah Rodriguez

Fellow anglophone, eh? Then you get a double dose! I don't see what immigrants have to do with my post, I was just joking about the incapability of burger influence. But yes, immigration/offshoring and "leftism"'s recent suicidal devotion to them bear an enormous amount of blame in everything that's gone wrong, though far from all of it.

October 22, 2016 - 22:50

Jeremiah Wilson

Immigration. Muslims are the fucking centre piece for some campaign of hatred in both nations.

October 22, 2016 - 23:02

Brayden Wood

...

October 22, 2016 - 23:06

Gavin Miller

Islam is basically just a political meme here in burgerland, since they make up such a microscopic fraction of the population. Even "lol jihad" wasn't capable of stirring up any serious tension before 9/11, when Bush made them the centerpiece for justifying even greater post-Cold War MIC embezzlement.

Islam in Europe is a totally different phenomenon, since it's the cultural spearhead of a massive scab importation, like beaners are here.

October 22, 2016 - 23:47

Gabriel Jenkins

Holy moley, did anyone else just see 64 posts from 8 days ago suddenly flood the thread?

Methinks Holla Forums isn't properly designed for hundreds-of-pages-long cyclical megathreads, given how often this thread seems to puke its guts up, even when no other thread on the board does it.

October 23, 2016 - 01:00

Lincoln Robinson

before i just refreshed i saw a bunch of posts from 10/18 right before yours

October 23, 2016 - 02:14

Cooper Sullivan

reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/58xmuz/what_the_fuck_this_could_be_the_smoking_gun_blank/

Thread has links to lists of Hillary donors including

Bill Maher is also apparently a contributor and gave her a million dollars.

October 23, 2016 - 05:17

Zachary Morris

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/790074503472746496

Everyone panicked for nothing.

October 23, 2016 - 05:22

William Watson

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/790017910563561472

October 23, 2016 - 06:07

Camden Miller

Pretty good political psychoanalysis of the American liberals:
archive.fo/O27uo

And if you want to feel depressed read the responses to Wikileaks tweeting this article:
twitter.com/wikileaks/status/790062605738119168
You will even find a lot of people suspecting that Wikileaks has been hacked because they linked this article.

October 23, 2016 - 06:11

Ryder Jones

George Soros only gave 1 million? Did he give more money through institutions or whatever?

October 23, 2016 - 06:14

Connor Scott

$10 million? Why do you want these $5 million for? Here, take your $1 million!

October 23, 2016 - 06:39

Blake Cook

Soros, just like the Koch bros, have their money tied up in many different institutions to fight for their interests.

October 23, 2016 - 06:53

Noah Hernandez

based article.

October 23, 2016 - 07:17

William Moore

Almost certainly. The emails are riddled with hill dawg's aids finding loopholes and workarounds to keep the money coming.

October 23, 2016 - 07:45

Grayson Hall

How long into Hillary's disastrous presidency do you think we'll be able to tell the liberals "we told you so"? 1 year? 2?

October 23, 2016 - 08:41

Camden Rogers

Liberals are a lost cause. They'll find some excuse to justify whatever horrible garbage a Clinton administration enacts.

Only way they'll finally get it is when the nukes start flying due to HRC's moronic warmongering, just before they are incinerated. Unfortunately I and a lot of others get to die too… but certainly not the ruling class.

October 23, 2016 - 08:53

Ryan Foster

I give it 2 years until nukes. We can still save the world with an October 2017 revolution.

October 23, 2016 - 09:12

Juan Brown

Maybe one or two weeks

October 23, 2016 - 09:20

Carson Rogers

What the fuck are you talking about? We already can tell them "we told you so", there's plenty of horrible shit Hillary has done as Secretary of State. They don't care now, what makes you think they'll care then?

October 23, 2016 - 09:29

Logan Ramirez

For starters, I think Trump will win.

Regardless, Hilary would cause problems on day one when Congress starts ripping into her emails. We'd get another round of sworn testimonies and it'd escalate into a Watergate style situation. Impeachment would happen in under a year, although an actual Conviction by the Senate is less likely (Hilary has friends with the Republican establishment, many of whom would like an excuse to retire early).

She'd be mostly unable to govern, but the few things she would get "done" would be a no-fly zone in Syria, boots in Ukraine, likely more troops in the Philippines, and a new TPP push. Whether or not these things pass depends on how obstructionist the House is feeling (even if they are for all of the above, they'll simply vote No to deny her the victory).

That said, S█████ would be in a similar situation but would likely be able to find common ground on trade reform (a thing the oil lobby desperately wants to protect themselves against Saudi price dumping) and would likely be able to work with budget wonks/Randians for a real mideast withdrawal. He might even been able to institute a higher gas tax in exchange for exemptions for NG/ethanol powered vehicles.

October 23, 2016 - 09:32

Thomas Thomas

They didn't learn their lesson with Barack Hussein "Nobel Peace Prize because they isn't one for War" Obama, why would this time around be different?

Do you want to see a different political panorama in the US (on paper, that is)? You will have to wait for the Republican party to go extinct, at least.

Which might be closer than we would willingly admit, because their foremost candidate is a Democrat, chosen as Hillary's opponent through the Democrat-owned media, instructed to talk exclusively about Trump before the nomination - and the actual Republicans couldn't do anything to get rid of him.

Until then, the country's politics are a scenario with far worse writing than a WWE tournament.

October 23, 2016 - 09:37

Ryder Murphy

That's the actually scary thing about all of this: if Hilary goes full retard she might actually be faced with Russia confronting her directly. Let's imagine another Cuban Missile Crisis, except Putin doesn't turn around and Hilary sinks their ships. Suddenly Putin needs to "protect Russian ethnic minorities" in the Baltics and eastern Poland, while doing a "peacekeeping" operation in Ukraine. Iraq completely folds into Iran (who is moderately pro-Russia) while demanding US troops leave as the US Embassy in Baghdad is besieged. Her options would be Appeasement or War.

It goes to show the importance of statesmanship and diplomacy. Hilary can't engage in brinksmanship when other countries (especially Russia) have nothing to loose.

October 23, 2016 - 09:38

Ryder Myers

that sounds like all the reasons for ww1 (untouchable military establishment demanding a conflict) and ww2 (dictator being given an excuse to expand his empire) in one setting

October 23, 2016 - 09:42

Christian Sullivan

thanks for posting that, good read

October 23, 2016 - 09:56

Easton Williams

Another Trump tape. That meme where the Clintons asked for Trump to run in 2012 is getting more real than ever

youtu.be/-2Obeu_VYY4

October 23, 2016 - 11:45

David Carter

NASTY WOMAN

October 23, 2016 - 12:08

Julian Lopez

the only people who would be affected by this are Trump supporters, and most of them will ignore it anyway

October 23, 2016 - 12:12

Alexander Anderson

Julian Assange: If WikiLeaks had obtained Clinton emails earlier, US voters could have chosen S█████ v Trump

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/789894503146676225

October 23, 2016 - 12:21

Carter Cooper

Duh?

October 23, 2016 - 12:36

Henry Nelson

Hillary's youth co-opt strategy
wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/4036 (see attachment)

October 23, 2016 - 13:51

Gavin Foster

...

October 23, 2016 - 14:05

John Green

...

October 23, 2016 - 14:06

Ian Garcia

Q: what do young ppl need?
A: abolition of debt, economic prosperity, etc. entertainers!

October 23, 2016 - 14:08

Ryan Lopez

there's nothing in the link

October 23, 2016 - 14:10

Samuel Flores

Found this in the leaks. Christ they're desperate.

youtube.com/watch?v=EfuEgb1WSYw

October 23, 2016 - 14:16

Josiah Parker

...

October 23, 2016 - 14:18

Brayden Bennett

bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37746777

Now Trump is saying that he IS in fact behind. Probably would've been better off staying with the 'election is being stolen' line.

October 23, 2016 - 14:19

Ryan Price

fuck off CTR

October 23, 2016 - 14:20

Chase Peterson

Is CTR also responsible for Trump saying he's behind? Their reach is truly long.

October 23, 2016 - 14:22

Henry Sanders

Fuck off COINTEL/POL/

October 23, 2016 - 14:23

Parker Powell

eh, anyone could have told you this. Even turbonormies that aren't into politics knew not to trust anything remotely associated with the party or endorsements (though they are mostly indifferent to this election as a whole).

On the bright side, this is the final nail in the coffin anyone had in trusting hollywood.

October 23, 2016 - 14:40

Jaxon Ross

I am drawn towards this giant hillary vote now.

October 23, 2016 - 14:41

Kayden Howard

I can't even believe this shit anymore. It just doesn't fucking stop.

Hillary is literally a villain from a 90's cartoon transported to our reality.

October 23, 2016 - 14:55

John Powell

What's funny to me is that they probably think people actually bought it. There is no "progressive" Democratic movement, especially not in the mainstream. In "alternative politics" circles (ie actual progressives) nobody bought Hilary in the first place. It's even funnier given that those slogans reek of corporate newspeak.

October 23, 2016 - 15:03

William Hill

Who do they think they're kidding?

October 23, 2016 - 15:03

Brandon Thomas

Erm, not that Jill.

October 23, 2016 - 15:05

Charles Bailey

I love it when real, tangible astroturfing gets exposed.

October 23, 2016 - 15:06

Liam Ramirez

also those "yeos" only exist in hard blue areas of swing states that have swung red partially because young people keep moving to cosmopolitan states that get love an attention from the dem party itself

October 23, 2016 - 15:07

Matthew Kelly

That's been the story of this entire election. The Democrats trying to pull tricks and then deluding themselves that they got away with it.

I can't imagine what they'll do when they find out Hillary has no actual support outside of Anti-Trump voters.

October 23, 2016 - 15:11

Anthony Barnes

also techies/silly cone valley fags don't like hilary because of the NSA and Snowden, also Trump had Thiel speak at the RNC

October 23, 2016 - 15:11

Angel Moore

It's the same shit they have been doing since 2013: they will blame millenials and denigrate them by calling them petulant children who need to "grow up" and put the party ahead of their personal feelings. Of course, nobody is buying that shit because nobody believes in it.

This is when the Democrats actually get scared: in a month they will be forced to realize the hole they have dug for themselves, and that they will only have two chances (2018 and 2020) to fix it before the GOP are able to run the country alone. Maybe with Hilary gone things will be different, and the party can start cleaning itself up. Or maybe not, and the Democrats die with the boomers.

October 23, 2016 - 15:17

Wyatt Morgan

Is this something I'd want to take off from work to see? I feel like it would just be insufferably neoliberal.

October 23, 2016 - 15:31

Adam Butler

no and yes

I'd essentially come down to "we should ban abortions and gay marriage" vs "fuck white people also please forgive my student loans". Both would agree on the importance of interventionist foreign policy to "protect freedom and women" (this was the exact line used by Democrats to justify the Iraq War). Or so is my experience with self-identified college/young republicans and democrats.

October 23, 2016 - 15:38

Ayden Garcia

Julian Assange: For want of the horse I didn't shoe in time, we might have a shot at winning the war.

October 23, 2016 - 15:46

Leo Ortiz

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intimate_Privacy_Protection_Act
lel.

October 23, 2016 - 15:59

Isaac Gomez

This. There's just a ton of evidence that supports that's he's cut from the same cloth and is still apart of the establishment but they'll ignore it like the cult worshippers that they are.

a part of me wants a Clinton landslide just so they can realize his candidates flaws and flip-flopping behavior to show that he's just as shit as she is.

October 23, 2016 - 17:00

Jayden Davis

GradeAUnderA is a Jill Stein Supporter

youtu.be/4Q714fz3Cu4

October 23, 2016 - 17:01

Isaiah Ortiz

Ajamu Baraka talking at UC Davies yesterday:

youtube.com/watch?v=99LtXNCz6JE

October 23, 2016 - 17:40

Connor Gutierrez

also as much as I hate Holla Forums, the only way Trump could loose and have them perceive it as genuine loss (rather than a "rigged" election) would be against another populist like S█████

October 23, 2016 - 17:41

Carson Walker

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/790353988642299904

October 23, 2016 - 17:55

Cameron Perry

Yeah, Trump totally decided to gamble his entire brand and become a social pariah in a failed presidential bid for…what, exactly?

The people bitching about Trump's flip flops are the same people that think Hillary is the best candidate ever since she never takes a position on anything that isn't exhaustively researched by her legions of drones to ensure it doesn't rock the boat.

ffs this is the same person that thinks raising the minimum wage is a bridge too fucking far

October 23, 2016 - 17:58

Austin Carter

Not surprising, Grade is based

October 23, 2016 - 18:06

Jackson Peterson

top kek, good one Holla Forums

October 23, 2016 - 18:08

Brody James

Does anyone know why the democrats want to go to war with Russia?

I would have thought Trump would have been the hawk of the two but Hillary is apparently wants war in Syria and with Russia.

October 23, 2016 - 18:09

Isaac Murphy

Trump is running because he's a massive narcissist. Everyone knows this, it's obvious. That's why Bill Clinton encouraged him to run on a golf course.

October 23, 2016 - 18:34

Leo Murphy

Because the defense industry is a major contributor to Hillary's election campaign. I don't think it's anything more complicated than that.

October 23, 2016 - 18:35

Cameron Cox

Silicon Valley Candidate

informationobservatory.info/2016/10/16/silicon-valley-candidate/

October 23, 2016 - 19:39

Zachary Powell

It's just the default US establishment position. Don't know why exactly.
I think it's just in case they accidentally defeat Islamic extremism and run out of """""""enemies""""""" to scare the population with.

October 23, 2016 - 20:07

Josiah Reed

Because the establishment is full of monsters. Because they're monsters.

Idiots are going to lead us into a nuclear war for no good reason.

October 23, 2016 - 20:37

Brandon Scott

wikileaks.org/IMG/html/gibney-transcript.html#4004

so much pravda it hurts.

October 23, 2016 - 20:53

Dylan Wood

I think part of it is that they really are that arrogant that they believe the US is invincible and nobody would dare challenge her.

October 23, 2016 - 21:07

Wyatt Kelly

Conflation is a staple of liberal propaganda, don't fall for it next time.

October 23, 2016 - 22:57

Charles Peterson

Funny because I seriously think that title goes to Trump. Having Peter Thiel speak at the RNC took fucking balls and it's the one thing about him I respect. Hilary is old money: her friends are in Norther Virginia. She ain't west coast (pardon the term but this is probably the only time where it's applicable), she's Alexandria and Crystal City.

October 23, 2016 - 23:30

Grayson Lewis

This is your answer. At this point Hilary, and most top people, seriously think they can push the rest of the world around and not get any pushback. Hilary thinks she can engage in Brinksmanship, when in reality she's going to find herself in a standoff where Russia is pointing guns at carriers in the Mediterranean or threatens to shut down the Strait of Hormuz. Like Nixon, she'd be faced with a situation outside of her control as the world oil supply stops and another US oil crisis happens or even worse a situation where US soldiers are dead and escalation occurs WW1-style.

October 24, 2016 - 00:02

Cameron Ward

Also imagine a conscription under Hilary, especially now that girls have to fight. Thought the Vietnam antiwar movement was big? Fucking nobody is going to fight her wars. Civil Disobedience would become the norm and she'd be faced with most draftees opting to sit in jail instead of fight.

October 24, 2016 - 00:04

Joseph Hughes

The Us is almost self sufficient on energy now, plus lets not forget venezuela would be more than happy to sell oil

October 24, 2016 - 00:21

Parker Sullivan

lol, fuck no. Most of our oil is imported while wells in North Dakota, Texas, etc are shut down. Big Oil cannot survive unless a tariff is put into place. And they know this, which is why it was being widely discussed before the election started a year ago.

October 24, 2016 - 00:24

Evan Diaz

Trump
not only a Zionist
but also Globalist

Holla Forumsacks will continue to defend this
youtube.com/watch?v=BuLqjmuzsVI

October 24, 2016 - 00:32

Adrian Hughes

does it matter? I want to see what happens if he doesn't build the wall or kill free trade. Holla Forums would suddenly become libertarian again.

October 24, 2016 - 00:38

Evan Clark

Look at this thread and tell me these idiots will ever become anything other than paranoid schizophrenics.
>>>Holla Forums7957605

October 24, 2016 - 00:51

Hudson Nguyen

Oil is practically the only form of energy we're dependent on imports for (not to mention it comes from the most hostile and distant corner of the world, whereas other imports come from closer and friendlier nations), and it's also the least efficient by far. Getting off oil would immediately solve a vast array of problems at home and abroad.

This is my dream scenario: Trump elected, Clintonian "New Democrats" and their SJW allies completely discredited and brutalized by Trump, brocialists vindicated as the only people who can hurt Trump, Trump completely betrays all of his supporters, disillusioned Trumpenproles vulnerable to indoctrination by [REDACTED] 2.0, landslide electoral revolution by 2020.

October 24, 2016 - 02:06

Grayson Cruz

CTR GTF

October 24, 2016 - 02:22

Dylan Diaz

I've been thinking about this alot lately as well. Regime change in Syria seems like a very petty prize to risk everything in a potentially nuclear war with Russia over.

At the moment I think it's because of a sort of economic determinism. The US is only going to get weaker from here on out and alot of people know that. Taking down Russia now while the US is at its strongest might provide a significant boost to the US that keeps it going a while longer–assuming everything isn't consumed by nuclear fire at least.

The whole global neoliberal order is on borrowed time. If the oligarchy in the US wants a real shot at toppling Russia and China, it's going to have to take it sooner rather than later.

Materially, Russia isn't an OPEC member and is seriously cutting into their profits. Part of the whole conflict in Syria is because of Russia wanting to create a pipeline through it, and they've been trying to build more lines to carry fossil fuels into Europe for a while now. I really wouldn't be surprised if this conflict with Russia was at the instigation of a particular Arabic kingdom :^) I imagine in some back room somewhere, a deal was made where if the US manages to take down Russia, they will have free reign over whatever they can pump or dig out of the soil (like Halliburton in Iraq iirc) as long as OPEC's profits aren't hampered. I know recently SA was having financial issues because of the depressed value/overproduction of petrocarbons, and I don't think they'd shed any tears if Russia got leveled received democracy, especially since they fund/ally with so many SA-opposed countries.

October 24, 2016 - 02:40

Ryan Cooper

...

October 24, 2016 - 02:41

Kevin Ramirez

what did she mean by this?

October 24, 2016 - 02:49

Jack King

...

October 24, 2016 - 02:53

Easton Morris

Holy fuck

Holla Forums BTFO

October 24, 2016 - 03:25

Robert Clark

You should read the article. Clinton's plan will make it easier for Silicon Valley's project of neoliberalization of the whole of society. Whereas Thiel is just a right-winger whose political views nobody in SV likes.

October 24, 2016 - 03:40

Anthony Adams

...

October 24, 2016 - 04:04

John Lee

The post was clearly designed to put nationalists of voting for Trump. Not voting for Trump = support for Clinton.

October 24, 2016 - 04:06

Isaac Cruz

...

October 24, 2016 - 04:17

Jack Scott

That's a meme term and you better stop associating yourself with it. Also implies that intersectionalism is a valid form of socialism, when its just a way for liberalism to infest at this point

October 24, 2016 - 04:17

Jacob Ortiz

You can vote for Trump without being a delusional faggot, like all the circle jerkers in the Holla Forums torture chamber are. The sooner you accept Trump is full of hot air, the less butthurt you're going to end up with.

October 24, 2016 - 04:18

Lucas Wood

There is clearly a difference between the two of them this time, to the extent that the Rep are supporting a Dem candidate. You're in denial. You're voting Clinton cause you got offended by Trump's mean words and you're looking to justify your vote to yourself. Fucking faggot tbph.

October 24, 2016 - 04:27

Gavin Russell

referring to allegations involving voter id laws as of late

October 24, 2016 - 04:34

Austin Myers

I don't understand how my post in any way praised the nonsensical concept of intersectionality.

Come out of your torture chamber more often, you need more vitamin D and less D.

October 24, 2016 - 04:34

Oliver Martin

Paul Ryan says that if Republicans lose the Senate, B████ ██████ becomes the new budget committee chair

usuncut.com/news/paul-ryans-attack-bernie-sanders-just-backfired-spectacularly/

Thoughts?

October 24, 2016 - 08:38

Charles Reyes

That's her *plan*. The point I'm trying to get across is that she's not capable of doing any of that when she is fundamentally not the type of person who understands the fundamentals of technology.

Think of the whole concept of "multi-stakeholderism" or "public-private partnerships". She isn't speaking to Google or Facebook, she's speaking to General Electric (subsidiary: Comcast-NBC) and AT&T. How much history do you know? Because the definition of "mult-stakeholderism" used here (“Multi-stakeholderism” endows private corporations with public responsibilities, while it downgrades the ability of governments to influence Internet policy) EXACTLY describes the FCC's relationship with AT&T until their monopoly was broken up. Pic related.

Silicon Valley area companies are certainly not paragons here, but Hilary wants vanilla and they are strawberry. They don't benefit from a "multi-stakeholder" Internet, they're the middlemen that get fucked first as larger companies (again, GE and AT&T) conspire to push them out. If Comcast is able to lock down the Internet, that means they make money and not Google. And taken broadly SV companies do not have the traction with Washington like the old money does.

And this brings back to my original point: Hilary is old money. She's NOVA, not California. She's not speaking to Google or Facebook because she sees them as disposable as AOL or Myspace. She's speaking to her friends who actually own the physical lines that make up the Internet because they have the real money.

October 24, 2016 - 09:29

William Williams

It wouldn't matter if Hilary was President, she'd still get all the money she would want for things like the B-21 or V-280 programs. Also Ryan is only saying that to scare rank-and-file Republicans, Hilary would easily have the Senate chose a neocon over S█████ because she considers their support more important.

October 24, 2016 - 09:31

Lucas Thomas

I guess this was a bad way of putting it. Ultimately a thing like Silicon Valley can only exist if there is a free and open Internet, ie one subsidized and maintained by the state. Hilary is more cablevision than Google. Comcast, if given the ability to do so, has a greater ability to be evil than Google as Google doesn't have direct access to the Internet itself. Same for AT&T, personally I find that it would be hilary-ous if Hilary's definition of a "multi-stakeholder" Internet was one run and managed by AT&T (like it was thirty years ago).

October 24, 2016 - 09:34

Hunter Brown

time to post this old chestnut again

You don't have to be crazy to work here, but it helps!

how insightful and original, great contribution!

October 24, 2016 - 09:56

William Baker

Just giving B████ more power.

October 24, 2016 - 10:35

Eli Anderson

What about this:
wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/27310#efmAPUAP_A3dBCdBEIBGwBZeBjY
Their problem with her seems to be elsewhere:
It includes people from Uber, Airbnb and similar. Would really like to see any transcripts of these discussions.

October 24, 2016 - 11:20

Juan Lee

reddit.com/r/WikiLeaks/comments/594q2a/facebook_coo_to_podesta_and_i_still_want_hrc_to/

RIP r/wikileaks

Looks like people were right to freak out the other day. Check out this BS in the comments of trying to downplay the corruption.

October 24, 2016 - 11:24

Jose Lee

I don't understand why some people seem to think Trump is going to get rid of this crap. If anything a Trump presidency will give them something to fight against and empower them more. The only thing that will put an end to it is is for their ideology to be thoroughly discredited by electing a lying con artist like Clinton to betray them.

October 24, 2016 - 11:38

Evan Nelson

Wow Donna, you mean like all the people purged from voter rolls or mysteriously switched to the wrong party during the Democratic Primary?

October 24, 2016 - 11:40

Wyatt Price

New video of election fraud:

youtube.com/watch?v=EEQvsK5w-jY

October 24, 2016 - 11:56

Lincoln Powell

Because whether or not Trump is ideologically committed to attacking them, they are ideologically committed to attacking him. Actually pouring gasoline down the academic anthills of their critical theory departments would be ideal, but the next best thing would be to draw them from their safe spaces full of obeisantly bully-friendly cucks into the light of day where sane adults and normalfags are. Open battle with someone who isn't afraid of them is the perfect opportunity for that, and it is exactly what Trump will do, showing for all the world both how insane they are, and how utterly ineffective they are against anyone who refuses to play by their pseudo-legal "rules".

I fear that a Clinton presidency will result in more spheres of everyday life being subjected to their kangaroo star chambers, and more of that being turned into real laws, which could become extremely nasty.

October 24, 2016 - 12:02

James Howard

I just don't see it fam. This cancer has to be defeated by a real Left critique of it; they're not going to listen to it coming from the Right. In fact they way most of these charlatans operate is by forming safe space echo chambers and plugging their ears when anyone from the Right says anything to them.

October 24, 2016 - 12:09

Ayden James

She lies, she honestly does not care about them anymore so she "cares" about cash checking stores and car dealerships. Follow the money, the money leads back to the giants and not to the new money. Why would she care about new companies that do not have the clout or lobbying power like AT&T has?

Again I'm not saying that Silicon Valley companies are good or otherwise defendable, but they're a different flavor to what Hilary wants. At the very most, they are tools she will use in service for a larger company. More likely they're disposable middlemen she will forget about on November 10th.

October 24, 2016 - 12:16

Brayden Cook

Chairman Dore mentioned by Wikileaks
twitter.com/wikileaks/status/790631309119021060
Holla Forums next?

October 24, 2016 - 12:20

Carson Russell

Does infowars loathe that guy?

October 24, 2016 - 12:21

Easton Murphy

At some point I have to wonder if these people don't intentionally fill their shitty docs with spooky music and effects just to make the idea less credible.

October 24, 2016 - 12:22

Austin Rogers

Why don't Democrats just spend the millions they use on "muh voter turnout" campaigns to actually help people in need acquire voter IDs?

Is the party run by complete fucking morons or something?

October 24, 2016 - 12:23

Ryder Howard

I mean, I'm not an American but are there campaign finance laws or other laws preventing that?

It sounds like it'd be much easier than pretending that voter ID laws are some racist conspiracy designed to stop people voting Democrat

October 24, 2016 - 12:25

Joseph Rivera

The organized left today is totally compromised from top to bottom, mainstream to radical, in every strand, worldwide (or at least in the Anglosphere). The only way it could possibly happen (short of an FDR-type demagogue) is a spontaneous grassroots rekindling of leftist sentiment among the working class, causing them to perform a hostile takeover of what was once theirs. The closest thing to this I've seen so far is the reaction to Atheism+/Gamergate, both of which (aside from the left-lolbert tendencies of their intellectual participants, which is its own source of problems) have been only partial successes at best.

Here's hoping that Trump really is the ideal bait to draw them into a catastrophic defeat.

Why not acknowledge that "voter suppression" hasn't been a plausible issue since we had a reliable postal system last century, automatically register everyone to vote, and switch to postal/online ballots?

October 24, 2016 - 12:27

Nathan James

Do you really think Republicans give a shit about the integrity of elections? Particularly in swing states?

October 24, 2016 - 12:28

Nathaniel Perry

Online ballots when we can't even secure offline electronic machines from hacks are one of the worst ideas imaginable. Maybe some day cryptology technology will be mature enough to make it secure while also preserving the fundamental principle of voter privacy, but that day isn't here yet. One prof I read from recently said it could be at least a decade before that happens.

October 24, 2016 - 12:31

Benjamin Thomas

That's absolute bunk. Simple RSA keys (public-private pairs) would be sufficient to prevent any kind of attack. Paper ballots are infinitely less secure than the most basic 1980s-era keygen like PGP.

Fancy modern blockchains or whatever would present interesting new options for ballots and other secure transactions, but they're far from necessary.

October 24, 2016 - 12:39

Benjamin Jenkins

Because it's too late. Most IDs take at least 1-2 weeks to ship and we're two weeks away from the election itself.

But you are right, if the Democrats actually did care they would have spent the primaries focusing on registering people and getting IDs, while being indifferent to Hilary or S█████. That obviously did not happen.

October 24, 2016 - 12:39

Camden Morales

Check out this anti-Assange propaganda. I love the edgy soundtracks! Don't you?

youtube.com/watch?v=IDDGVfiYz_M

youtube.com/watch?v=HrSS4RggauI

October 24, 2016 - 12:42

Easton Taylor

Mark Halperin is such a fucking slimeball cunt.

October 24, 2016 - 12:45

Michael James

Also, I should add that using the insecurity of electronic voting machines as an indication that computers aren't secure enough for voting is ridiculous and dishonest. Voting machines are absurdly insecure and poorly regulated compared to computer systems used for casino slot machines, bank ATMs, and even just simple retail purchases, there is practically nothing worse than them in the industry.

October 24, 2016 - 13:04

Caleb Diaz

Which states use these? I live in WA and we're 100% vote by mail. It's really convenient and it feels more secure. I can't imagine waiting in long lines to vote at a secret computer.

October 24, 2016 - 13:12

Thomas Murphy

Most counties in California (ie everyone south of Redding) does. It's why I became a permanent mail voter.

October 24, 2016 - 13:24

Lucas Collins

They're not even trying to hide it at this point

October 24, 2016 - 13:56

Matthew Carter

The Founding Fathers must be real proud

October 24, 2016 - 14:34

Christopher Harris

a.k.a. "I'm too lazy to think and struggle, so I'll just consider the status quo and its ideology as a universal principle of politics."

October 24, 2016 - 14:44

Henry Torres

Since I don't visit this board unless someone here makes a bait thread and it leaks to the board I use, and I admittedly find your ideology demonstrably wrong, I saw this thread and wanted to know how most of you feel concerning the fact your candidate not only lost, but was cheated and went on to support the very person that stole the nomination from him.

October 24, 2016 - 15:01

John Miller

docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DgwLHAC5mk9Ghblc6O7AXzxX5dNLlMg0hHUn-D_Ay7I/edit#gid=0

"Spreadsheet of over 500 best emails/Podesta leaks

PSA: log out of your Google/Gmail account to view"

This was posted on r/wikileaks

October 24, 2016 - 15:09

Carter Stewart

He was the false prophet

October 24, 2016 - 15:10

Colton Richardson

How do you think it feels?

October 24, 2016 - 15:11

Oliver Cooper

So bad that for once in my life, I feel for leftists.

October 24, 2016 - 15:16

Colton Bell

I don't enjoy it but it was the best option honestly. Politics is usually messy.

October 24, 2016 - 15:17

Austin Hernandez

Dont worry you will know that feel in a month

October 24, 2016 - 15:22

Noah Fisher

it's like i'm really on the donald

October 24, 2016 - 15:22

Nathan Rodriguez

Lmao, I was about to say it, too.

October 24, 2016 - 15:24

Brayden Walker

Wait, do you mean Hillary was the best option?

October 24, 2016 - 15:25

Matthew Smith

Got $200 on Trump @ 5-1 odds.

Feels like Brexit 2.0

October 24, 2016 - 15:25

Charles Garcia

Help me here: are you implying that your guy caving to the current personification of corruption was a good thing?

Beats the odds I had: only 4-1.

October 24, 2016 - 15:27

Evan Rodriguez

Hillary is going to wipe her ass with that $200, then set it on fire.

I do hope she loses, though. Just for rigging it & being a warhawk. But we lose either way, tbh

October 24, 2016 - 15:28

Ethan Sullivan

Whatever. It's more fun this way.

Probably won't see another election this entertaining in my lifetime.

October 24, 2016 - 15:32

Noah Hall

This. B████ has numerous reasons to support Hillary right now, the foremost being that he promised to support the Democratic nominee. It's a sign of integrity on his part.

October 24, 2016 - 16:03

Dylan Turner

I mean, for B████, endorsing Hillary was the best option. If he had gone off the reservation they would've spent from July to Election Day and beyond smearing and attacking him and his supporters. It would be like 2000 and the Green Party all over again.

October 24, 2016 - 16:11

Sebastian Torres

I kind of want Trump to win. He is terrible, of course, but I want to see him win regardless. Voting for Trump is completely nihilistic, an act of pure negation towards America in the most American way possible. I want to watch him destroy everything.

October 24, 2016 - 16:22

Aaron Stewart

I do understand why he did it for his own political career & this reason.
But honestly I'd see more integrity if he'd remained neutral, at least. If anything, "endorse" her, then keep quiet.

It's all just depressing. Our media is so fucked. They have such an influence, that if he hadn't endorsed they & the DNC would've likely ruined him. I'd just like to think he'd have retained his support from his base & people would think rationally. But as we can see, rarely many do.

October 24, 2016 - 16:27

Alexander Thomas

Welp.

October 24, 2016 - 16:31

Brayden Sanchez

take your spooks elsewhere

October 24, 2016 - 16:31

Evan Robinson

drawing more attention to this

October 24, 2016 - 16:37

Aaron Harris

It's not a "sign of integrity" to agree to support the nominee when you now have evidence that from the very start the "impartial" DNC had its thumb on the scale for said nominee

Yeah, and we now know from the leaks that Hillary can't even be assed to push for even the handful of concessions he supposedly achieved.

October 24, 2016 - 16:43

Carson Martinez

But they are. Republicans don't give a shit about voter ID in places heavily republican or if its more than a month before an election. After its past the point where most american's who don't have much time off due to work/kids (who are usually poorer and younger and vote democrat) they won't have time to apply and receive an ID by voting day. That's the whole scam. I wouldn't mind voter ID if it was put in place right after an election, so that you had years to get some form of ID, but that never happens. After elections they suddenly don't give a shit.

of course that's not to say that the only reasons democrats give a shit about people voting is because they're base is more fickle and more likely to be affected by voting ID laws; I have no doubt that if the shoe was on the other foot democrats would push for them

October 24, 2016 - 16:43

Logan Davis

The user that said earlier that Clinton is like a cartoon supervillain come to life was right.

I honestly don't see how anyone can read these emails and still believe Clintonites aren't elitist bureaucrats to the core.

October 24, 2016 - 16:43

John Brooks

The leaks & the Primaries gave us no doubt. They were fine closing down polling places that were more likely to help S█████. And voter registration purges, not counting affidavit or "provisional" ballots that affected independent voters much more(which more mostly likely S█████ voters). They were perfectly fine with restricting independent voters & even other democrats, just to help their nominee.

The dems didn't & don't give a shit about the voters themselves, only their votes & statistical advantages.

October 24, 2016 - 16:51

Henry Cruz

Not just thumb on the scale. They outright flipped votes.

October 24, 2016 - 16:57

Elijah Mitchell

He was. Remember when he was planning to settle down a bit and write a book?

The thing is, Hillary NEEDS his support since he's FAR more popular than she is at the moment and she literally can't defend herself anymore. This makes the Democrats even more indebted to him, gives him more power, and moves the public to his side when Hillary inevitably betrays him.

October 24, 2016 - 17:11

Dylan Anderson

As a non-american, the only reasons I have for a Trump victory is the fact that Hillary is all for WWIII and Holla Forums flipping out/losing influence on imageboards once a republican is the one fucking up everything.
Also the DNC possibly breaking itself apart would be nice.

October 24, 2016 - 17:14

Ethan Bell

I don't know if I admire, or pity, your optimism.

October 24, 2016 - 17:19

John Gonzalez

This was on the front page of the USAToday:

usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2016/10/24/heatlhcaregov-opens-plan-window-shopping-today-amid-rate-worries/92688126/

FELLOW CITIZEN, DID YOU CHECK THOSE SAVINGS? INSTEAD OF NOT HAVING INSURANCE YOU NOW ONLY PAY $99 A MONTH

NEVER EVER TRUST COLLABORATORS

October 24, 2016 - 17:30

Owen Russell

You're right, it's all the Jews who need to be weeded out of public office not just Soros.

October 24, 2016 - 17:33

Parker Davis

note: for reference my own insurance doubled up over the summer to $93.45/mo but I thought I was an edge case and not the majority of people

Also the AARP has already issued an action alert over this (ie, call your legislator and whine to them) so you can expect that millions of old people are now going be voting for Trump if only because he didn't fuck with their healthcare. This is another nail in the coffin for hilary, because people who see their rates increase at all will not be voting Democrat.

More sources:

money.cnn.com/2016/10/24/news/economy/obamacare-premiums/index.html

chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-obamacare-premium-hikes-20161024-story.html

bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-24/obamacare-benchmark-premiums-to-rise-25-in-sharpest-jump-yet

npr.org/sections/health-shots/2016/10/24/499190020/rates-rise-again-for-obamacare-health-plans-but-so-do-subsidies

October 24, 2016 - 17:34

Ethan Peterson

What? They are just exploiting him while still not doing anything else to attract Burnie supporters. And do you think they, of all people, care about some symbolic debt? They and their supporters have no honor, we already know that.

October 24, 2016 - 17:44

Connor Butler

So was obamacare a failure?

October 24, 2016 - 18:03

Asher Campbell

Here's the guy I was talking about, professor of computer science and engineering who specializes in cybersecurity and voting machine security. He's one of the guys who an original demonstration of hacking Diebold's AccuVote-TS machines back in 2005 (and these are still in use in places).

c-span.org/video/?415879-4/washington-journal-j-alex-halderman-cybersecurity-voting-machines

Skip to 30:44:

October 24, 2016 - 18:04

Carter Carter

And it's going to kill them. There is no way the Democrats can survive without the 45% of their base that are still loyal to S█████.

October 24, 2016 - 18:05

Isaiah Hill

Our candidate is Jill Stein silly.

October 24, 2016 - 18:06

Andrew Long

Nice cap. Saved.

October 24, 2016 - 18:17

Jordan Turner

yes, absolutely (in the sense that it wouldn't fuck with people's plans and drive down costs). Instead it worked flawlessly in allowing insurers to hike up costs

I agree with all the CTR shills that full medicare would fix the problem but I seriously do not trust Hilary with it, even if she could be capable of passing such a bill in Congress.

October 24, 2016 - 18:30

Leo Stewart

Didn't one of the leaks mention that she thought "universal healthcare" was too much to reasonably expect from her presidency?

October 24, 2016 - 18:40

Jackson Carter

Yesterday she got endorsed by Assange as well, for her stance on whistleblowers and war.

October 24, 2016 - 18:51

Mason Cox

Any proof Assange is alive yet? Twitter tone and style has changed considerably.

October 24, 2016 - 18:54

Aaron Allen

Fuck integrity. Let's say he didn't support Hillary. Then what? Do you really think the DNC would attempt to reach out to the Sanderistas? Like I said, they'd just spend the rest of eternity attacking him. Hell, they're still attacking the Green Party. The only other option where he could actually have a positive effect on things would be if he endorsed Stein and tried to get her high enough in the polls that she got into the debates, which is one hell of a long shot, and considering how his run went I don't blame him for not taking it.

October 24, 2016 - 18:56

Joshua Hernandez

That's not necessarily a formal endorsement, he just agreed to speak at the presidential nominating convention.

October 24, 2016 - 18:58

Zachary Reed

I think that absolutely could have happened if S█████ had done the right thing.

October 24, 2016 - 18:59

Henry Garcia

They're rotating their twitter "job" among themselves, so you see a mix of styles and stances.
Assange is alive, and this paranoia only serves as a distraction from the contents of their leaks, mirroring Clinton's distractions with Russia scare.
twitter.com/wikileaks/status/790406530738913285

He was happy to speak at her event because of her policies. It's not a formal endorsement, but it is implied that he endorses at least some of her campaign. He's been critical of both Clinton and Trump, while suggesting that DNC emails should be leaked sooner so that we'd have S█████ vs. Trump. Of course Trump supporters refuse to accept any of this, saying Wikileaks has been compromised :^)

October 24, 2016 - 19:05

Joshua Evans

Huh, we're pretty close to the 1 million get aren't we…

Prepare for the board to be flooded with /sp/ and Holla Forums shit very shortly.

October 24, 2016 - 19:08

Mason Murphy

It's been a week.

All he has to do is go to the window and wave to the cameras for 2 seconds.

October 24, 2016 - 19:09

William Hill

Really? If I recall, the debates are set up by a private organization, who's to say they'd even follow their own rules?

October 24, 2016 - 19:14

Owen Carter

Maybe his people say it's too risky or something. He already cancelled an appearance on balcony when it was Wikileaks' 10 years anniversary.
There's also this, you can investigate if that's his handwriting at the end: twitter.com/SHO_TheCircus/status/790672953331425280

October 24, 2016 - 19:15

Sebastian Scott

Trump would've totally won, lmao.
You people act like the whole country is made of Millenials, Baby Boomer democrats think Hillary is the best pres ever and would never vote Third Party, much less so consciously pick the "Socialist" over the 1st women prez, do you ever know what the Tea Party is?
Sanders is appealing only to already liberal-leaning working class folk and millenials, no one else, not even the renegade neocons who are with Her right now.

October 24, 2016 - 19:18

Jack Miller

The debates are set up literally by DNC and RNC together because they want a monopoly over politics. Two wings of one party.
youtube.com/watch?v=CCWR-045QBU
youtube.com/watch?v=6cXfRNdvr_s

October 24, 2016 - 19:18

Benjamin Howard

Doesn't need to go on the balcony to wave through the window.

A PGP sig is another option.

Radio silence for a whole week… It's all very fishy.

October 24, 2016 - 19:23

Ethan Torres

If you're not a CTR shill concern trolling and really care about it go investigate that handwriting and report back. Or go search for interesting podesta emails.
Sorry, but it's useless to discuss whether Assange is alive or dead because we can only fantasize about what's going on. It's all just counter-productive confusion and distraction.

Podesta Emails Part 17

twitter.com/hashtag/PodestaEmails17

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/?q=&mfrom=&mto=&title=¬itle=&date_from=&date_to=&nofrom=¬o=&count=50&sort=6#searchresult

October 24, 2016 - 19:38

Sebastian Butler

What handwriting?

October 24, 2016 - 19:45

Christopher Lee

if trump wins the worlds gone mad i'm killing myself lmao

October 24, 2016 - 19:49

William Gray

>If I told you that Democratic Party lobbyist Tony Podesta, whose brother John Podesta chairs Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign, is a registered foreign agent on the Saudi government’s payroll, you’d probably think I was a Trump-thumping, conspiratorial nutcase. But it’s true.
huffingtonpost.com/medea-benjamin/hillary-clinton-the-podes_b_11779826.html

October 24, 2016 - 20:41

Asher Fisher

ruh roh

October 24, 2016 - 20:45

Oliver Johnson

reminds me of this:

jpost.com/Opinion/Twilight-of-American-Jewry-467862

October 24, 2016 - 21:03

Sebastian Roberts

Another cut, more blood. The Democrats have two options after November: either destroy the party themselves and flush the shit out, or have Congress do it for them.

October 24, 2016 - 21:04

Adrian Fisher

I'm curious what the post was

October 24, 2016 - 21:48

Aaron Martinez

:DDDDDD

October 24, 2016 - 21:58

Christopher Hughes

...

October 24, 2016 - 21:59

Josiah Perez

You won't believe what your about to hear, so listen up.

October 24, 2016 - 22:00

Mason Gutierrez

...

October 24, 2016 - 22:13

Logan Cruz

what is this from?

October 24, 2016 - 22:19

Nathaniel Hall

micheal moore explaining why workers get false consciousness and vote for trump

October 24, 2016 - 23:23

Xavier Martin

No, I get that :) I was asking the context/source, because I'm lazy/damn tired. I'll look it up.

October 24, 2016 - 23:32

Andrew Young

Too tired to realize this was a joke, too

goodnight, anons

October 24, 2016 - 23:33

Jordan Brown

And then… You'll have to cope with the horrible mistake you made for the next four years as he delivers on absolutely nothing he lied about.

October 24, 2016 - 23:40

Alexander Long

(checked)
And yet all of these are solved problems in every industry other than voting, having been so for decades.

October 25, 2016 - 00:28

Parker Anderson

I think it's also meant as a distraction for reddit. Assange's "disappearance" coincided nicely with the takeover of several reddits posting/finding emails and it seems like the volume of posts has dropped off considerably.

October 25, 2016 - 01:44

Gavin Stewart

kybarnet is banning people left & right on r/wikileaks; it's hilarious. It feels damn good to see these CTR fucks get the ban hammer for fucking with the subreddit.

October 25, 2016 - 01:51

Julian Thompson

Did you know Assange has a kitty & it has its own Instagram?

instagram.com/p/BFv79qijYCn/

Glad to know he does. It gets really lonely, being a political prisoner.

October 25, 2016 - 01:57

Austin Ramirez

B T F O

October 25, 2016 - 02:45

Samuel Cook

OUR BOY

October 25, 2016 - 02:48

Cooper Rogers

SAVAGE

October 25, 2016 - 04:34

Noah Perry

UNATCO?
From Perot, to Nader, to Paul, to Kucenich, to Obama, I have never seen an election with such bantz. Let's hope this is the start of something glorious.

October 25, 2016 - 04:55

Jace Hill

What's the pic of? It's not loading for me for some reason.

October 25, 2016 - 09:50

Sebastian Moore

The consequence of Social medi, really, people could talk to each other instantly, the could talk to a wide audience, now they can do both.
Enjoy an era of politics being nothin but gossip, oh sorry, bantz and dank memes, while the real isseus are never talked about.

October 25, 2016 - 09:58

Adam Ward

We've been knee-deep in cancer online since 2007. I'm thinking less about peoples' attitude toward the issues, and more their attitude toward the system itself. When confronted with shilling, people are quicker than ever to call it what it is, but I can't yet discern whether this heralds a new hunger for authenticity that might root out the corruption, or an even greater level of cynical aloofness.

October 25, 2016 - 10:15

Jason Peterson

Old news. Moore hates Hilary and knows that she will destroy the party. Check out his comments on Obama, he's very disillusioned.

The end result of this is either Trump winning and doing everything Moore wanted Obama to do, or Trump winning delivering nothing and causing a Dem populist to arise.

October 25, 2016 - 11:53

Cooper Watson

Obviously there is an accelerationist case for a far leftist to vote trump, its like burning down the house, and also you can blame the owners for not being left wing enough.

I think moore either
1.Knows something we dont know ( polls are lies)
2. Realizes he cant be the cool liberal rebel if the people in power are democrats and are also starting wars, killing browns.

October 25, 2016 - 12:06

Levi Carter

Moore doesn't want Trump to win, he's saying that he's going to win.

Based on what I see, I disagree. Old people are easily influenced by propaganda and they're buying the MSM line. Talking to my insane family just shows how hopeless the olds are as far as knowing what is really happening in the world, most of them act like Snowden and Assange are villains if they know who they are at all.

If Trump does win, it's because TPTB want him to win. Either way, he's obviously a puppet and will do nothing good for anyone.

October 25, 2016 - 12:17

Chase Nelson

Trump is fucked but the Republican party is doing fine. Polls show them winning the Governor race in fucking Vermont. The same state that gives [redacted] an 87% approval rating.

October 25, 2016 - 12:20

Jackson Baker

Why would voting for Trump be accelerationist though? Isn't Clinton the one that's going to accelerate in the current direction of American neoliberalism and imperialism? Trump is more about switching the direction (against open trade, against invasions). And if you're now going to argue that they're both the same anyway then it makes no sense to pick either of the two as accelerationist in the first place (while Trump is still a symbolic middle finger to the establishment and MSM, unlike Clinton).

October 25, 2016 - 12:27

Grayson Young

The answer is pretty simple: Moore is Mr. Rust Belt, always has been, always will be, seeing what neoliberalism did to Michigan was the economic equivalent of witnessing a genocide.

Trump and (with greater sincerity but lesser openness) S█████ are the first politicians in decades to voice support for politically unspeakable but wildly popular policies like trade tariffs and immigration quotas.

From the working class perspective, either protectionism will be reinstated, or we're going to tumble into 3rd-world-dom, probably with a violent revolution along the way.

October 25, 2016 - 12:32

Brody Stewart

A trump win is a giant fuck you to globalism, its a giant fuck you to the neocons and the GOP establishment, its a giant fuck you to clinton, who having lost will get blamed for not being left wing enough, and how B████ would have won, which is an environment in which you can start to build socialism, the failure of the neoliberals and the coming trumpen reich.

A clinton win is the slow death, the status quo, same thing as obama, same thing as bush, endless war in the middle east, maybe some riots in the west, and east, every now and then she tosses and identity politics bone to the drooling liberal masses, ultimately nothing changes, just a slow cancerous reinforcement of the existing oligarchical establishment.
Oh, plus she is more war hungry than obama and is willing to throw russia under the bus and start ww3 to distract people from emails that confirm what an evil bitch she is

October 25, 2016 - 12:35

Daniel Torres

Gotta agree with the other guy for the most part. Trump is guaranteed accelerationism whether he keeps his promises (tensions between establishment and populace grows) or he betrays his supporters (anti-establishment forces become even more radicalized). Hillary is just Obama 2.0/Dubya 3.0 if her agenda holds true, with the possibility of Posaidist-grade accelerationism if her foreign policy goes horribly wrongright.

October 25, 2016 - 12:48

Camden Peterson

I totally agree, but I don't think the notion of accelerationism is well understood when people say voting Trump represents that idea. An accelerationist candidate would mean an ever more aggressive and omnipresent capitalism, the gamble being made that the system will then implode. I find that idea naive, which is precisely why I think Trump is better than Hillary, because of reasons you described. This is simply a strategic evaluation like any other, and not cynical accelerationism, that's the point I'm trying to make.

October 25, 2016 - 12:51

Julian Hill

How fucking delusional are you?

October 25, 2016 - 12:52

Connor Sullivan

Rather than wondering which one of thoses clowns is the better non opportunity, wouldn't it be better to wonder how to make the bet of each situation?
So…
Wat do?
Wat do?

October 25, 2016 - 12:59

Nicholas Price

funnyordie.com/videos/d7bc2fee1b/youre-f-in-high?_cc=m_&_ccid=ee40a837-9425-4034-93f4-ed75903bfd1d

I swear to god I am so close to voting for Donald Trump

October 25, 2016 - 13:08

Benjamin White

Either way we need to rebuild the civic movements and alternative political party power of the '30s and '40s.

October 25, 2016 - 13:09

Elijah Wilson

...

October 25, 2016 - 13:17

Benjamin Wood

This is the exact consequence of Trump's attention-whoring and liberals' falling for it.

The more people talk about how much of a "unique threat to democracy" Trump is, the more it gives leverage to Republicans to rebrand themselves as "sensible moderates."

Clinton knows what she's doing. She and Bill have always been about triangulating to the right.

October 25, 2016 - 13:22

Luke Murphy

...

October 25, 2016 - 13:22

Jordan Sanchez

So, the answer is to die?

October 25, 2016 - 13:25

Thomas Cook

holy shit the ideology

October 25, 2016 - 13:26

Colton Cruz

This is why anyone who thinks the Democrats will change are fucking delusional. They are bourgeois to the core and need to die for the world to progress.

October 25, 2016 - 13:27

Anthony Rivera

I love how anyone living in New York or California can think voting third party is 'throwing their vote away' when there's literally no chance in hell of their state not going for the Dems. If anything, voting status quo is throwing your vote away.

Please just kill me I cannot take it anymore.

October 25, 2016 - 13:43

Nathaniel Cruz

Why doesn't this "funny" clip feature a Jill Stein voter?

October 25, 2016 - 13:54

Julian Walker

WATCH: Corruption At Trump Super PAC Exposed

youtube.com/watch?v=23oEmq31DdY

October 25, 2016 - 13:55

Gavin Stewart

He should've listened to Jane and supported the commissar.

October 25, 2016 - 13:55

Aiden Gutierrez

shhh, don't let them know they can vote for Stein :^)

October 25, 2016 - 13:55

Christopher Young

W-Who? You mean that anti-vaccine truther?

October 25, 2016 - 13:57

Jason Brown

I remember the guy who gave us seatbelts and airbags and the Freedom of Information Act and then had the guts to stand up to a phony corporate Democrat who couldn't even win his home state of Tennessee much less get over a hundred thousand registered Democrats to not vote for Bush in Florida.

October 25, 2016 - 13:57

Andrew Thompson

No, no, that's Trump.

October 25, 2016 - 13:59

Samuel Bailey

Sanders is prepared to be a liberal thorn in Clinton’s side

archive.is/SzjXw

IT BEGINS.

October 25, 2016 - 14:07

Jose Ward

Why do they keep saying liberal I'm pretty sure [redacted] doesn't identify as one.

October 25, 2016 - 14:09

Evan Hill

Because they're idiots.

October 25, 2016 - 14:13

Hunter Morgan

In America there are only conservatives and liberals.

October 25, 2016 - 14:33

Kayden Allen

If S█████ can rot the establishment down from the inside until the next election I'll be impressed

October 25, 2016 - 14:34

David Miller

tbh if he just proposed this kind of thing from the very beginning of his endorsement, MORE B████ people would be voting Hillary. Instead they made him drink the coolaid.

October 25, 2016 - 14:39

Jeremiah Roberts

They wanted to "UNIFY" the party, remember? What a joke that was.

October 25, 2016 - 14:53

Blake Bell

Fun thread to read, but:
You are all so out of normal political debate, that holy shit. Your left is the nazis, your right is the nazis. Your view of the society is fundamentally a cult.
You both want the government to be You, or force your beliefs on others. That is fascism. Literally, you tards. You are all fascists. fuck.

October 25, 2016 - 15:14

Brayden Evans

ayy lmao

October 25, 2016 - 15:18

Isaac Garcia

Yeah, actual politics scare the normies like that.

October 25, 2016 - 15:19

Adam White

Whine more bitch boy

October 25, 2016 - 15:22

Jonathan Long

...

October 25, 2016 - 15:23

Andrew Thomas

Damn, guess literally every political ideology is fascism then.

October 25, 2016 - 15:44

Liam Jones

I'm kinda hope Trump does have a win, just so the supporters get dissapointed. Otherwise, it's an even faster train to fascism.

October 25, 2016 - 15:46

Nathan Garcia

Trump is an opportunist, he's a centrist otherwise, with some anti-establishment policies here and there. And if you mean some of his nutty supporters - they're already here, whether Trump wins or not won't change that.
How can you seriously buy into this fascism phobia that comes from neoliberals whenever people reject the status quo?

October 25, 2016 - 15:51

Ryder Nelson

Thing is, I'm pretty much sick of neoliberalsim. I want to see both parties disintegrate.

October 25, 2016 - 15:57

Jason Morris

OK, I should have been clearer. I meant that there's no reason to think that Trump is actually a road to fascism. I hope Trump wins as well, because strategically he's slightly better for the left than Clinton who is just going to grease up the whole establishment machine even more.

October 25, 2016 - 16:10

Matthew Turner

How's it looking so far? Them polls n stuff.

October 25, 2016 - 16:57

Robert Rivera

Why Moore, WHY?!

October 25, 2016 - 18:52

Christian Perez

He's explaining the rationale of the Trump voter, not his own.

October 25, 2016 - 19:37

Luke Clark

nice get
just retarded message

If Trump would win, Holla Forums still loses. They just don't know yet.

October 25, 2016 - 20:08

Adrian Rogers

If anything, it would only be a short term victory for pol.

October 25, 2016 - 20:11

Brandon Flores

archive.is/ZAHmU
liberal horseshoe theory fags have decided that Trump is like Karl Marx cuz he's a populist or something.
fitting

October 25, 2016 - 20:59

Carter Roberts

kek, poor dude

October 25, 2016 - 21:09

Leo Jones

Where have you fags been today? According to this fag the latest leaks demonstrate Obama knew about Clinton's private server shit.

youtube.com/watch?v=ZMOjk1EI4_I

October 25, 2016 - 22:02

Liam Ortiz

theweek.com/speedreads/657421/obama-claimed-didnt-know-about-clintons-email-server-wikileaks-just-proved-thats-not-true

October 25, 2016 - 22:06

Lucas Sanders

take your meds.

October 25, 2016 - 22:41

Jason Reyes

duh, who cares tbh.

October 25, 2016 - 23:20

Cooper Jackson

Wasn't this already conformed a while ago? He used his own private email with a pseudonym to communicate with Hillary's private email.

October 25, 2016 - 23:36

Julian Thompson

Holy shit.
Pic related is the highest level of cover for a male 26yo from the biggest private insurance company in Australia. It includes things like a free pair of running shoes every year and the like. And still you can walk into any public hospital and get free treatment.

October 26, 2016 - 01:44

Lucas Garcia

Gosh, and only 430 obamaland funbux a month

October 26, 2016 - 01:51

Charles Morales

1 AUD = 0.769131 USD, USD = 1.30017 AUD

October 26, 2016 - 02:09

Henry Edwards

youtube.com/watch?v=gE6kTSAaudQ

Barak Obama's half brother, Malik Obama, supports Donald Trump.

October 26, 2016 - 02:09

Aiden Martinez

Is there really a good possibility that Trump wins? It seems like key voters are nevertheless still brainwashed by the whole "mass murderer Hillary is lesser evil" propaganda.

October 26, 2016 - 02:19

Adrian Turner

Sorry, I'm retarded and misread your post.

October 26, 2016 - 02:26

Luke Powell

Things aren't looking good for Hillary, and I imagine they'll only get worse as this email stuff filters out into the general population.

October 26, 2016 - 02:29

Dylan Rogers

Malik was friends with ghaddafie and is mad obama killed him so he decided to troll him hard.

October 26, 2016 - 02:51

Jose Hall

You misunderstand the whole idea of Holla Forums. The idea is not to make Trump win through psyuops and nazi frogposting.
The idea is to make nationalism mainstream, through Trump, shift the overtone window to the right and keep supporting more extreme candidates until we get the literal Hitler.

As you may have noticed the people already dismiss any Hitler comparisons and during this election cycle many of them are starting suspecting Hitler did nothing wrong.

What Holla Forums wants is either a civil war or a push to destroy the republican party from within and replace it with a nazi party.

October 26, 2016 - 04:29

Kevin Fisher

i laughed twice thanks

October 26, 2016 - 04:43

Joseph Collins

Remember that is sort of how Hitler and Mussolini got in. Also, to be fair, some commies like Béla Kun.

October 26, 2016 - 05:10

Jace Martin

The republican candidate is a democrat, that the democrat-aligned media talked about exclusively before the nomination, because he was the opponent the democrats chose.

The democratic party's campaign consists entirely on throwing shit in the general direction of this democrat they chose.

There are rebublicans out there that disowned this democrat and are doing a campaign in favor of that other democrat presidential candidate.

Living up faithfully to its name, the democratic party is doing a spectacular job in sabotaging both the democratic process in the nomination of its own candidate, the republican party's, and now the final stage of presidential race.

Holla Forumsyps or whoever else do not need to do much to destroy the republican party from within, or even democracy in America itself, because they democratic party did it first.

I am curious what exactly is supposed to replace the republican party now that decades of ideology made of anti-nationalist, anti-socialist, anti-Russian, and now anti-non-3rd-wave-feminism is going to make whatever Holla Forums stands for to be public enemy #1 in the eyes of the average American, the two-party system is obsolete, and the mediatic, corporate, and cultural hegemony has been established.

I'm not entirely sure if Holla Forumsyps understand they're being played like a fucking fiddle by this dialectical trap: "either we Hillary or we nazis" - because we know exactly how much Americans love their nazis - or that they just witnessed a revolution from above.

"Always do the opposite of what we say, and here is what we say: 'do not become the best possible straw man we could ask for'."

There was that poster a week ago or two mentioning how much Americans actually end up liking the fact that everything is rigged and corrupt and bourgeois, and how obedient they are to ideology.

Now the democrats' capture is so complete even their sworn enemies become everything dems ever wanted them to be.

Never did a so-called democratic party work so hard to discredit democracy.

October 26, 2016 - 05:34

Liam Evans

You are lost in your own democrat vs republican buzzwords again.

That's not the point. Both parties are bankrolled by the same people, that's why the neocohens and the cuckservatives oppose the outsider, that's why Fox News shits on him 24/7.

Both parties will have to be destroyed. Republicans are already collapsing and will need just a little push, and the democrats won't survive the Trump presidency after their corporate funding and their media mouthpieces are cut off and their top officials go to prison for treason and corruption.

It's not about Trump as a person either, it's about the idea. At this point we have already won, there are already enough people ready to exercise their constitutional right to overthrow the tyrannical government by force. There are already extremists at the arms, there are already talks about a revolution being heard.

The dems have done a GREAT job of dividing the country. All it needed is a spark and we made Trump that spark.
There will be either a peaceful transition through Trump or a violent one.

America only needs 1 party and that party will be National-Socialist.

October 26, 2016 - 05:47

Jackson Gutierrez

www.newsy.com/amp/videos/sanders-brushes-off-email-insults-from-clinton-campaign/

Sanders defending the Clinton campaign insulting his campaign and supporters

October 26, 2016 - 07:53

Ayden White

archive.is/Qy8Yk

Trump's Hollywood Walk of Fame star was destroyed by some dude with a pickaxe.

October 26, 2016 - 08:57

Jonathan Morris

Clinton campaign pushed B████ hit piece that linked him to high African American incarceration rates, CTR was used to push the story.

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/32461

October 26, 2016 - 09:26

Jeremiah Carter

Reminder that Frederich Engels was a Businessman (Capitalist) :^)

October 26, 2016 - 09:31

Henry Green

Unlikely. but a hrc win will reaffirm the smug confidence of liberal technocrats which is excellent.

What I'm curious to see is how the msm will treat the leaks which will continue to come out after the election.

October 26, 2016 - 10:32

Austin Price

Sorry, not excellent, I meant troublesome. I did not realize there was a filter in place

October 26, 2016 - 10:34

Benjamin Harris

Lesser evil voting is non-applicable in the year of the Hillarump.
Vote third-party or independent, or don't vote at all.

October 26, 2016 - 11:06

Thomas Cook

I'm not even registered to vote in the state that I currently live in. Mostly just to avoid jury duty.

October 26, 2016 - 11:08

Nathan King

Clintrump sounds better

October 26, 2016 - 11:09

Colton Edwards

If you have a driver's license or state ID, you're likely already on the list for jury duty. If you haven't been summoned, you've probably just been lucky (or your address isn't up to date). Also, it's extremely easy to get out of jury duty.

October 26, 2016 - 11:13

Adrian Price

I've heard that, but I haven't gotten a summons since 2010, which is the last time I was registered. Might just be coincidence. Either way, I have no desire to be registered. Fuck voting.

October 26, 2016 - 11:16

Liam Sanchez

Donary Clintrump?

October 26, 2016 - 11:19

Liam Morgan

Dollary Clintrump, of course

October 26, 2016 - 11:32

Kevin Ramirez

Especially in non presidential voting.

October 26, 2016 - 11:43

Juan Nelson

I don't know what kind of cardboard fairyland you all seem to live in, but not-voting isn't going to bring about socialism any faster.

There's plenty of congressional, state and city elections going on which—in case you like not being arrested for cannibis or sentencing people to death, for instance—really do matter.

October 26, 2016 - 11:59

Jace Jackson

No one cares about what Holla Forums's delusions are.
I just care about imageboards really starting to tell Holla Forums to fuck off (then again Holla Forums outside this board is probably doomed)
Then again I feel we are reaching or we have already reached peak aut-right, MSM going about pepe reminds me a lot of chanology.

October 26, 2016 - 12:15

Joshua Morgan

I agree, but no matter what president is elected, that still won't happen. The best you can get is some more co-ops, but we don't exactly have time for that.

October 26, 2016 - 12:19

Brandon Jackson

I'm not too worried. The liberals are dead already, they just don't know it yet. Next year they're going to be strangled to death by the Republicans and S█████ with no public support.

At this point I view winning the presidency as a pyrrhic victory for the establishment. They're be struggling to stay alive.

October 26, 2016 - 12:26

Sebastian Jenkins

You were right the first time.

We need to set the liberals up so we can knock them down.

Better than allowing them 4-8 years to play the brave liberal Resistance to the big bad Trump.

October 26, 2016 - 12:28

Kevin Brooks

Jimmy "economics > idpol" Dore
youtu.be/JvvnTp5EBC8?t=7m44s

October 26, 2016 - 12:33

Landon Watson

wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/11933

October 26, 2016 - 12:34

Jaxson Ross

You didn't even read the article yourself, did you?
It's actually a great article, and the clickbait headline probably seduces precisely the kind of people that need to read it, i.e. liberals.

October 26, 2016 - 13:04

Adrian Gomez

The Clinton Campaign was snapping creepshots of Barney Sandals.

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/32693

October 26, 2016 - 13:17

Luke Adams

There's plenty of policy and legislation that can and should be passed to encourage the creation and sustainability of co-ops too.

October 26, 2016 - 13:40

Liam Jackson

I would actually be okay with this

October 26, 2016 - 13:40

Elijah Barnes

...

October 26, 2016 - 13:43

Brayden Howard

youtube.com/watch?v=WcDLuf-3kaA

Another great video posted today. Jimmy breaking down how we've been fucking Syria and Iran since the 50's in the name of oil and anti-communism.

October 26, 2016 - 13:53

Nathan Lewis

Memes aside, who do you expect to win?

October 26, 2016 - 14:29

Camden King

I'm with
HER
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October 26, 2016 - 14:36

Austin Ross

Any B████crats for it?

October 26, 2016 - 14:37

Caleb Wood

Hillary and her idiots are slowly radicalizing lefty Americans, it's fun to watch:
youtube.com/watch?v=fNyj-T1GCgM
I remember going through a similar process. When the mainstream politics alienates you, you make it your project to differentiate yourself from it as much as possible. Liberals are doing us a service with their stupidity and hypocrisy, they're a free 24/7 commercial on why you need to come to the left instead. Sooner or later almost nobody will be able to ignore everything that's wrong with Clinton, Wikileaks is here to stay after the elections, and if she's elected their commercial for the left will just continue playing. From this perspective the more blatantly horrible the candidates are, the better for us.

October 26, 2016 - 14:39

Charles Flores

Fuggin drops Phil Ochs "Love me I'm a Liberal" Come'on Dore you are so close.

October 26, 2016 - 14:45

Jordan Ward

what
the
fuck

October 26, 2016 - 14:52

Easton Ramirez

abc.net.au/news/2016-10-26/the-election-of-hillary-clinton-promises-a-more-dangerous-world/7966336

October 26, 2016 - 15:16

Eli Robinson

I regularly agitate my groups talking about the socially responsible use of eminent domain, Italy's Marconi Law, and the Labour Party's idea of a law giving employees the right of first refusal.

October 26, 2016 - 15:52

Jaxson Williams

Jimmy is getting so savage lately I think I'm becoming a regular listener. I see a socialist in the making; all he needs is some more pushback from faux leftists as he continues speaking truth to power.

October 26, 2016 - 15:53

Angel Walker

his podcast is a good listen if you have a semi long commute

October 26, 2016 - 16:01

Jackson Stewart

My bet is on the spread looking something like this:

Trump 50%
Hillary 35%
Stein 10%
Johnson 5%

Give or take in respect to any forthcoming surprises from wikileaks et al.

October 26, 2016 - 16:02

Gavin Anderson

What's the right of first refusal?

October 26, 2016 - 16:02

Owen Long

How the fuck haven't I seen this posted here?

archive.is/JZiUW

October 26, 2016 - 16:05

Nathan Lopez

wow that's by far the lowest blow they've ever done and it's so harmless

October 26, 2016 - 16:10

Connor Brooks

Don't they mean election fraud?

October 26, 2016 - 16:10

Ryder Rivera

This was actually a story all the way back in June. Most irresponsible outlets decided not to report on it.

alexanderhiggins.com/stanford-berkley-study-1-77-billion-chance-hillary-won-primary-without-widespread-election-fraud/

October 26, 2016 - 16:11

Elijah Rodriguez

What's your reasoning?

October 26, 2016 - 16:12

Bentley Morales

Well shit, I must have missed that.

October 26, 2016 - 16:12

Cooper Richardson

When a business is deciding to go public on the stock market, it would require employees to have the right of buying it out first and turning it into a co-op if they want.

October 26, 2016 - 16:13

Elijah Thomas

That sounds pretty awesome, but how often do employees actually have the capital to buy out their business?

I think Stein is going to benefit heavily from former Sandernistas looking for an alternative to Hillary. Johnson has been getting talked up alot, especially in the MSM, which makes me suspicious of how well he's actually doing. Consider his recent "what's Aleppo?" gaffs.

As for Trump, the impression I'm getting isn't so much that people in general like him so far as they, aside from Democrat diehards/true believers, absolutely despise Hillary for one reason or another. The way I see it, up until about now, the majority of people have only been keeping infrequent attention to the content of this election cycle, and since Trump changes his positions just about every time he's in front of a camera, more likely than not he'll have said at least something that the average person can support. Contrast that with Hillary who (at least in my admittedly limited experience) seems to commonly be seen as a snake, and I see the average American taking their chances with the slimy businessman rather than the dishonest politician.

Really, I think that's what's going to carry Trump through. He's "not a politician." He's probably just as sleazy and crooked as Hillary, but to the average spooked-up American his hucksterism is fundamentally different because he's a businessman, which the dems and the reps have both spent decades lionizing. I mean, really, what do you expect people to do after nearly 40 years of being told that government is the problem and that politicians just want to screw them and take their money and so on, while CEOs and other moguls are endlessly trumpeted as the saviors and heroes of the country, of the economy, etc. Even a cut-rate shmuck like Trump benefits from this image, at the very least because he's """successful."""

The content of all these wikileaks paints a very dismal picture for Hill Dawg too. No one likes her. Not the voters, not the party, not the staff, not even her own family. The MSM can plug its ears and pretend that the emails are irrelevant or nonexistent all they want, but the facts are slowly filtering out into the general population, and with every passing day the poison spreads. Hell, even without the emails, stuff like her 9/11 "incident," the fly on her face during the debate, and other things like that just help to cultivate all the doubts people seem to have about her.

IMO, the only thing she really has going for her is that she's "not Trump," and I suspect that there are lots of people, for one reason or another, really don't give a shit about that.

That's mostly what I think. Factor in too the imbalanced (and constant) polls, the shrill-bordering-on-hysterical tone of the media most of the time, and a healthy dose of wishful thinking, and that's what I come up with.

October 26, 2016 - 16:38

Jace Lewis

youtube.com/watch?v=zIxjkn-fNbQ

youtube.com/watch?v=XS0YjUF8v7k

Chairman Dore going after John "Current Year" Oliver

October 26, 2016 - 17:15

Samuel Carter

What the fuck happened to that interview with leftypol thing anyway?

October 26, 2016 - 17:54

Camden Ortiz

This is what democracy looks like:

youtube.com/watch?v=jqVScGY051E

So glad my own state's League of Women Voters hasn't been corrupted (yet).

October 26, 2016 - 19:23

Kevin Jackson

a candidate with balls

October 26, 2016 - 20:33

Bentley Flores

You do realize that "muh wall" and "muh ideas" weren't even why Trump is so close against Shillary in the first place, right? It's only because other people are hate her more than Trump, and vice versa with her support.

Did you read the fucking post? Marx user specifically stated that he's nothing but a plant for clinton, and you and his braindead supporters are clearly being played by him. It's even being implied by wikileaks. No one is committing to an "armed revolution" but infowars shills and middle school Holla Forums posters.

Think otherwise. Shillary's plan is working and Trump is setting himself up for a blowout loss to her due to telling centrists and other key voting blocs to fuck off. Trump won't even get at least 40% of the vote.

why are Holla Forumskiddies so easily gullible?

October 26, 2016 - 21:05

Blake Ward

Good poast.

October 26, 2016 - 21:08

Landon King

If Trump was just a rich guy who wanted to try to become president, his path to victory would be much easier if he adopted certain policies.

For example, If he had simply adopted the standard neocon line on foreign policy, his run would be a lot easier - he would have at least begrudging support of his entire party establishment and pundit class. They wouldn't constantly be trying to stab him in the back over trivial issues if he simply came out in favour of a no-fly-zone and said he was willing to risk conflict with a nuclear power over Israel's foreign policy interests. He would have retained the Jewish donors that fled his party: fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-gops-jewish-donors-are-abandoning-trump/

At the debate, Martha Raditz brought up the fact that Pence gave the boilerplate, "We must confront Russia with overwhelming strength and resolve" Republican talking points and Trump - without making a calculation - without correcting himself, openly disagreed and disagreed strongly. She couldn't contain herself (She's a 🍀🍀🍀foreign policy analyst🍀🍀🍀), and interrupted him constantly, comparing the battlefield in Aleppo to the holocaust, but he persisted. That shows me that he actually has some principles, because again, he's not taking the easy route. That type of foreign policy isn't actually unpopular, except with the pundits.

Similarly, if he were a Clinton plant, he wouldn't have cut his safety net. You and I both know that he's going to jail if he doesn't win.

October 26, 2016 - 21:23

Nathan Ward

youtube.com/watch?v=Kbryz0mxuMY
Seriously need you guy's opinions on this
poal.me/hrr2p3

October 26, 2016 - 21:54

Julian Sullivan

ignore quote.

October 26, 2016 - 21:54

Mason Russell

pls respond.

October 26, 2016 - 21:59

Brody Watson

Jimmy "Kill the Lib" Dore

October 26, 2016 - 22:08

Justin Kelly

it's going to hurt when he sells out

October 26, 2016 - 22:11

Jordan Smith

why? it's to be expected

October 26, 2016 - 22:50

Austin Young

The Phil Ochs song was actually a socialist bashing socdems though. Jimmy is so close to becoming a comrade.

October 27, 2016 - 00:20

Connor Johnson

I don't know about him being an explicit Clinton plant, but one of those wikileaked e-mails talks about how the Clinton campaign strategy has been to push for the credibility of Ben Carson, Ted Cruz, and Donald Trump because they thought they would be easier to beat. Bill Clinton called him up on a golf course and encouraged him to run as well.

Maybe not a "plant" per se, but surely a useful idiot at least.

October 27, 2016 - 00:24

Gabriel Johnson

And all this time, we've been telling Holla Forums to follow their leader. To think, they actually were.

October 27, 2016 - 00:26

Brayden Taylor

Please, he's a billionaire (or a multimillionaire at least). We both know they don't go to jail.

October 27, 2016 - 00:27

Michael Evans

...

October 27, 2016 - 00:47

Levi Johnson

Trump is a democrat, cut the maybes.

October 27, 2016 - 01:07

Nolan Barnes

Likelihood Clinton will be primaried in 2020? Surely if the Dem party wants to stay relevant by that time they will be forced to as she will cause dems to lose ground in the house and lose their potential new senate majority in 2018. I can see her favor-ability being below 30% by 2020 and they may be forced to.

October 27, 2016 - 01:32

Kevin Morris

Nice Hitler trips.
She will be dead by 2020. But her cyborged corpse will surely get into the 2020 primaries.

October 27, 2016 - 03:13

Isaac Sanders

Where is the best place to find full episodes of his podcast? His website is a disaster.

October 27, 2016 - 03:40

Eli Cook

FRESH OC!

Now I can say I am ready for the final days of this shitshow.

October 27, 2016 - 05:15

Isaiah Sullivan

"It's shit"

t. Holla Forums

October 27, 2016 - 05:37

Kevin Allen

He's so close to understanding one of the contradictions of capitalism.

October 27, 2016 - 07:03

Kevin Lee

Breddy gud :DDD

October 27, 2016 - 07:36

Samuel Morgan

Where's the Stein/Johnson cost us the election square?

October 27, 2016 - 07:50

Christian Brown

...

October 27, 2016 - 07:51

Carter Gray

Get this shit out of here. Right now.

This brainwashing is disgusting. These celebrities are the worst of the worst.

October 27, 2016 - 08:35

Dylan Foster

Get this shit out of here. Right now.

This brainwashing is disgusting. These celebrities are the worst of the worst.

October 27, 2016 - 08:35

Easton Wilson

I'm in bumfuck India with shitty connection.. or it's just 8ch glitching again

October 27, 2016 - 08:36

Aiden Carter

...

October 27, 2016 - 10:23

Charles Wright

yale's biggest newspaper endorsed HRC

this is to be expected but the phrase "we have no opinion on Jill Stien" was not

October 27, 2016 - 10:38

Nicholas Ward

Zero. Absolutely, zero. The crew will go down with the captain and her ship.

Assuming Hilary somehow wins, the GOP will continue running Congress and will make big gains in 2018. Missouri will go Right-To-Work next year, followed shortly by Ohio and then Pennsylvania. Hilary might slip by in 2020, but the damage will have already been done and that year the GOP will seal their gains through Gerrymandering after the Census is conducted. 2022 is a total shitshow for the Democrats, the GOP would be well positioned for a Supermajority which is when they can ignore Hilary outright. They'd also have an Electoral College advantage at this point. Then starting in 2024 the GOP would repeal all the progressive policies made in the twentieth century, so they can have their Gilded Age back.

The entire time Hilary and the remaining Democrats would continue bitching about obstructionism as more and more Americans walk away. They are then pinned down into a handful of cosmopolitan states when they can be ignored, just like the Democrats were after Reconstruction until Wilson. At the very most, Hilary might get a no-fly zone in Syria or boots in Iraq. But even then Congress would likely demand an exit after a year because they are sticky about money and Hilary wouldn't sacrifice social security (which would cause even hard blue states to flip red).

Which is why I hope Trump wins. Yes, he's a fucking cunt and bourgeoisie scum but his victory would likely result in a total reconstruction of the Dem Party, with his protectionism allowing Labor to rebuild. He's not capable of destroying fucking everything like Hilary is.

October 27, 2016 - 10:53

Grayson Baker

How can people like this who supposedly run a paper look themselves in the mirror each morning?

October 27, 2016 - 10:56

Hudson Garcia

It's Yale. One of three colleges (other two being Princeton and Harvard) where the bourgeoisie overlords are created.

October 27, 2016 - 10:59

Kayden Sanchez

Harvard gave us National Lampoon, once upon a time. The Ivy League are supposed to be intellectual and self-aware.

October 27, 2016 - 11:05

Jaxon Thompson

They've always been glorified finishing schools for America's elites user. Even the '60s yippies eventually became yuppies

October 27, 2016 - 11:12

Ayden Collins

I live in southern connecticut and have to deal with Yale students all the time. They're insufferable, and have the pretentiousness you'd expect of an ivy leaguer.

October 27, 2016 - 11:53

Christopher Richardson

Does "Fucking third parties" not count?

October 27, 2016 - 12:41

Brody Cooper

Wrong, the Ivy Leagues have always been where porky himself is manufactured. The newest Ivy League, Stanford, was only allowed into the club because Stanford himself was a notorious union breaker (infamously using America's first private military, Pinkerton Detective Agency to knock off labor organizers) who ran America's largest railroad monopoly (which for a brief time collected more in fees than the federal government in taxes).

When the inevitable red tide comes in, the first people executed will be it's students and war will only be won when their colleges are burnt to the ground.

October 27, 2016 - 12:42

Carter Reed

What makes you think he will sell out now?

October 27, 2016 - 13:27

Liam Hill

Did Stein get her doctorate from Yale or Harvard?

October 27, 2016 - 14:22

Owen Foster

Harvard

October 27, 2016 - 14:23

James Perry

The Democratic party needs to be destroyed and replaced with the Green party. Corporate money is just far too entrenched to reform it at this point.

October 27, 2016 - 14:25

Xavier Walker

Reminder that we could've had S█████ gangraping Trump in the polls and drink on Holla Forumsack tears come election night.

youtu.be/Jc2TVLoxsDA

October 27, 2016 - 14:28

John Bell

Parties are irrelevant, since there can only be two. What must change is a constitutional shift away from FPtP voting, probably starting at the state and local level, as with most of these things.

Remember that the distance between Republican establishment and Democrat establishment is infinitely smaller than the one between the rest of us and them. Letting Trump in is potentially bad for them, letting S█████ in would've been catastrophic.

October 27, 2016 - 14:32

Brody Gomez

Cure, of course, but the Democratic party still needs to be obliterated.

October 27, 2016 - 14:54

William Sanchez

*sure

October 27, 2016 - 14:55

Jaxon Williams

Leave.

October 27, 2016 - 15:06

Lucas Nguyen

youtube.com/watch?v=JVQH-dYIzgg

Whew.

October 27, 2016 - 15:18

Jonathan Gomez

For starters, Congress.

October 27, 2016 - 15:18

Logan Howard

Saw one of the weenies on my local station in that montage.

October 27, 2016 - 15:21

Connor Robinson

damn

October 27, 2016 - 15:25

Angel Hall

Did you miss the porky flag?

October 27, 2016 - 15:31

Kevin King

Wow. That's fucking bullshit. That's the type of thing we need to see start happening, often. Otherwise, things aren't going to change.

October 27, 2016 - 15:38

Mason Smith

This is how we're gonna fix America. Not by pandering to millennials or by calling Mexicans rapists, by growing some balls and challenging the two one party system.

October 27, 2016 - 15:45

Cameron Smith

I voted today and I didn't get a sticker. Is that idpol?

October 27, 2016 - 16:10

Evan Carter

I actually though Time Warner was buying AT&T, not the other way around.

And they've been saying gommunism is 'le hivehmind'.

October 27, 2016 - 16:57

Hunter Lewis

Here's Clinton's centrist non-answer on #NoDAPL

She is the fucking worst

October 27, 2016 - 17:05

Evan Jones

This. She will be kill by 2020 and we'll get 1968 Democratic Primary with Kaine vs. B████ or his protege, in which B████ or his protege will almost certainly win unless Kaine had a decently long and somewhat competent try at it.

October 27, 2016 - 17:55

Robert Sanders

Daily reminder Third Way cancer gave us the Obamacare price hike. And Obamacare.

October 27, 2016 - 17:55

James Ortiz

How are those polls looking right now?

October 27, 2016 - 17:57

Oliver Harris

What does the hammer and sickle have to do with it though?

October 27, 2016 - 18:35

Adam Phillips

Wew just went to a group political discussion that included a Korean Trump supporter (MAGA hat included), a Jeb Bush supporter who seemed a lot like a young version of Jeb Bush, a lot of liberal talk about muh privilege and that one Orwell quote on guns that gets posted here a lot.

Oh, and the moderator was a black man. Which kinda made the Korean's story about the Rodney King riots a bit awkward.

October 27, 2016 - 18:50

Easton Russell

On a scale of 1-10, just how evil am I for voting for Trump purely because I think it would be more humorous to watch SJWs flip their shit if he wins?

It's not like he would be worse in office than shillary anyways.

October 27, 2016 - 19:22

Brayden Roberts

Is it evil to eat your seed corn?

October 27, 2016 - 19:27

Sebastian Hill

reddit just broke and filled the front page with a bunch of r/the_donald posts. pretty much definite proof that the admins of that site manipulate that sub specifically, if there was any doubt left.

October 27, 2016 - 19:27

Thomas Davis

Not evil, just dumb.

October 27, 2016 - 19:29

Caleb Johnson

...

October 27, 2016 - 19:34

Brody Murphy

No, I said you are dumb, for voting for hillary.

Everyone else is fine. CTR go home.

October 27, 2016 - 19:36

Charles Myers

take your meds.

October 27, 2016 - 19:57

Henry Long

CTR is undeniably real and they have an actually shocking amount of influence on mainstream boards like Reddit. 8ch on the other hand….

October 27, 2016 - 20:00

Logan Scott

Unless you live in Nevada, Oklahoma, or North Dakota, pretty dumb. You have an opportunity to really do something meaningful with your vote this election. Don't waste your righteous fury on that fam.

October 27, 2016 - 20:01

Isaiah Turner

I'm worried for Assange, HRC is definitely going retaliate against him and he'll only have a few real journalists left as allies. Greenwald and uh….

October 27, 2016 - 20:01

Henry Harris

Chris Hedges, Greg Palast…

October 27, 2016 - 20:02

James Hall

...

October 27, 2016 - 20:41

Christian Anderson

Seriously.. Now it's personal with her. And this is the woman who laughed about getting Qaddafi killed.

Personally, I hope she gets Bobby Kennedy'd before she can do enough damage, to all of us.

October 27, 2016 - 20:45

Liam Lewis

Just for shits'n'giggles, what's Holla Forums's take on what the fallout would be if either of Clinton or Trump were assassinated before the election?

October 27, 2016 - 21:22

Benjamin Flores

I could imagine riots

October 27, 2016 - 21:38

Jaxson Ward

Honestly, I have no idea what would happen.

It's actually pretty amazing, that Hillary Clinton can make me actually have to defend a guy like Trump. She even struggled in the polls against him. She's such a shit candidate & horrible person. I'd be satisfied with seeing her in jail, though.

Anyway, maybe if she gets Bobby Kennedy'd, it would pave the way for a genuine revolution.

October 27, 2016 - 21:42

Ayden Wilson

What happened when JFK was shot?

October 27, 2016 - 21:57

Angel Lee

I don't remember anything about that day.

October 27, 2016 - 22:15

Aiden Collins

He was made into a martyr.

But JFK was a friend of mine, and Senator Clinton, she's no JFK.

JFK actually gave a bit of a fuck about citizens. And many say that's why he was sniped. He was trying to improve race relations & socio-economic status for Americans. Just like MLK or Malcolm X's circumstances of death.

October 27, 2016 - 22:25

Asher Howard

Just like Ghandi.

October 27, 2016 - 22:27

Josiah Wright

>reddit.com/r/politics/comments/59qg7e/republicans_are_inventing_clinton_scandals_to/

Ugh! When will those Rethuglikkkans stop trying to pin fake conspiracy theories on Our Girl Saint Hillary??

October 27, 2016 - 22:28

Jayden Perez

SJWs would get a new life under a Trump administration. Since everyone will be galvanized in their disgust for Trump, they'll completely ignore Social Justice, leaving it to fester once more unchallenged.

October 28, 2016 - 07:36

Lucas Jackson

IT'S HAPPENING

Even if this goes nowhere again Congress is loading up and will be able to successfully destroy Hilary regardless if she wins the Presidency or not.

twitter.com/Reuters/status/792050888957423616

twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/792049409244663809/photo/1

nypost.com/2016/10/28/the-fbi-is-reopening-its-clinton-email-probe/

huffingtonpost.com/entry/fbi-hillary-clinton-email-investigation_us_58138552e4b0990edc30cb36

REMEMBER, WE COULD HAVE HAD S█████

October 28, 2016 - 10:42

Julian Perry

another source

nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fbi-re-open-investigation-clinton-email-server-n674631

October 28, 2016 - 10:46

Grayson Nelson

Lee Fang as well.

October 28, 2016 - 10:59

Christopher Cruz

Why couldn't they release the emails sooner? Why did Ｓａｎｄｅｒｓ brush it off?

It could've been us and the guys over at r/ｓａｎｄｅｒｓforpresident digging through the emails and actually making a difference in the real world and ensuring that he would've become president.

But it was too late and now it's Trump,Holla Forums and r/the_Donald doing all the stuff.

I feel nothing but sadness.

October 28, 2016 - 11:05

Charles Baker

I imagine the Bernermeister either didn't know what the emails really entailed or was told specifically to ignore them.

I'd like to think he wasn't in on it from the beginning but I'm not so sure any more

October 28, 2016 - 11:12

Noah Martin

another source:

twitter.com/jasoninthehouse/status/792047597040971776

October 28, 2016 - 11:18

Robert Clark

lol

pic related

October 28, 2016 - 11:19

Oliver Murphy

youtube.com/watch?v=sK5T7CLujoc

October 28, 2016 - 11:20

Ayden Collins

There was already enough evidence to indict her but Comey didn't. Nothing is going to come of this. Though it might sway some undecideds.

October 28, 2016 - 11:20

Chase Rivera

Because they wanted to give the Democrats a chance to fix their shit on their own terms, instead of forcing it. They let the Dems choose their fate and they chose to burn. Remember, the leaks themselves began the night of the DNC when S█████ conceded and Hilary officially accepted the nomination.

I'm not happy with the decision either, but if I was in their position I'd do the same. This gives them the maximum exposure as the GOP are much more rabid than us and Fox News actually airs this shit live (including reading Hilary's emails verbatim, a thing which I still find hilarious every time it happens). Their options were to either step back and let Democracy play itself out, or touch their oven lighter to the gas leak inside the Dem's house. They ultimately let the Democrats choose their course, instead of trying to directly influence the election through the primaries.

Shit happens, again I'm not happy either. But it's what the majority of Democrats chose.

October 28, 2016 - 11:24

Caleb Johnson

Fuck, you are right.

October 28, 2016 - 11:29

Hunter Bailey

Lmao, Trump is going to win, isn't he?

October 28, 2016 - 11:30

Nathan Anderson

Gloria is going to have to go to her bench here.

October 28, 2016 - 11:32

Alexander Rodriguez

Gloria is going to have to go to her bench here.

October 28, 2016 - 11:32

Carter Diaz

That's not my point. The point is, regardless of what happens in the election the House is being given more ammunition. If Hilary becomes President she'll get toasted like Nixon did. I think the biggest question of her Presidency (if it happens) would be if a President can Pardon themselves.

On that topic, this is what the Consitution says:

Which can be taken either way, on one hand a President can pre-emptively Pardon herself and thus prevent a Conviction in the Senate (as the Senate requires the President to commit a crime in order to Convict), or the Senate (and SCOTUS during the inevitable lawsuit) could just ignore her self-Pardon entirely and Convict anyway. Either way it would destroy her authority (as it would in effect be a vote of no confidence) and result in a Republican landslide in the following election even if House/Senate Democrats dumped her.

Pic related, Nixon avoided this mess by resigning before he could be Impeached and had Ford Pardon him. I highly recommend reading it, as well as watching Nixon's entire resignation speech and Ford's inaugural address (where he's almost crying because his had boss just gotten cooked).

October 28, 2016 - 11:36

Grayson Evans

No matter what, Democrats loose.

October 28, 2016 - 11:38

Austin Wright

Bro, chill.

October 28, 2016 - 11:40

Samuel Sanders

I can't handle spelling errors.

October 28, 2016 - 11:45

Mason Watson

You mean WikiLeaks? They weren't given the emails sooner.

October 28, 2016 - 11:48

Luke Jackson

I wonder if the NSA really found Hillary's 33,000 emails like Kimdotcom said? Could the FBI even use the NSA for an investigation like this?

October 28, 2016 - 11:49

Michael Bell

"okay, okay, okay, what if we say the fbi are actually reverse russian vampires"

October 28, 2016 - 11:49

Jordan Collins

...

October 28, 2016 - 11:50

Landon Rogers

Top Kek

October 28, 2016 - 11:58

Hudson Green

Top Kek

October 28, 2016 - 11:58

Juan Collins

Stahp.

alexanderhiggins.com/stanford-berkley-study-1-77-billion-chance-hillary-won-primary-without-widespread-election-fraud/

October 28, 2016 - 12:11

Caleb Gomez

I wonder if there is any correlation between the re-opening of the FBI investigation and this colossal fuck-up of revealing that nukes require 4 mins between the order and the launch to the whole planet:
newsmax.com/US/nuclear-launch-response-time/2016/10/20/id/754599/

I vote 2016 for best current year ever.

October 28, 2016 - 12:14

Kayden Barnes

lol

October 28, 2016 - 12:21

David Cox

It was Kaine. From the very start. He planned it all out. He is the mole. He is the insider that leaked the emails. He is going to become president after Clinton has been indicted.

Kaine is Underwood.

October 28, 2016 - 12:24

Brody Ross

LINK

October 28, 2016 - 12:25

Logan Brooks

IT'S TRUE LMAO

nytimes.com/2016/10/29/us/politics/fbi-hillary-clinton-email.html?_r=0

October 28, 2016 - 12:27

Aaron Adams

nytimes.com/2016/10/29/us/politics/fbi-hillary-clinton-email.html

archive.is isn't working at the moment.

October 28, 2016 - 12:27

Alexander Wood

archive.fo/9lgpp

October 28, 2016 - 12:29

Colton Jones

...

October 28, 2016 - 12:33

Ryder Gomez

2016 is a year that keeps on giving.

October 28, 2016 - 12:33

Sebastian Morris

If wieners wiener takes shillary down that is like some synchronicity occult shit man.

October 28, 2016 - 12:39

Jace Rogers

good god redditors are insufferable faggots

October 28, 2016 - 12:52

Jace Anderson

just accidentally the whole campaign

October 28, 2016 - 12:54

Joshua Perez

reddit has been over run with CTR hardcore for a while now.
Just ignore the mainstream boards, especially the political ones.
The only place to discuss politics properly are in obscure places like this

October 28, 2016 - 12:55

Aaron Mitchell

soundcloud.com/user-30899546/hrc-determine-who-win-1

wew lads

October 28, 2016 - 12:56

Justin Adams

Maybe. I only say this because Mark Felt dropped Nixon. But this also assumes Hilary can win, and if Kaine was smart he would only start leaking after the election.

October 28, 2016 - 12:56

Carter Lewis

Perhaps Jim Webb? He's the only other person I can think of that has the balls, the access, and the reason to do it.

October 28, 2016 - 12:57

Robert Hernandez

that entire 14 second bit could easily fit into a TV ad

she's fucked

October 28, 2016 - 13:00

Christian Ward

WHERE IS THIS FROM

October 28, 2016 - 13:03

Parker Flores

lmaooooooooooooo is this real? what's the source?

October 28, 2016 - 13:05

Austin Cruz

which is ironic because trump is also pro-israel and doesn't give a fuck about palestine

October 28, 2016 - 13:05

Jason Edwards

NOAM CHOMSKY RELEASED IT

October 28, 2016 - 13:07

Nicholas Foster

when? where? give me a fuckin source

October 28, 2016 - 13:07

Chase Clark

observer.com/2016/10/2006-audio-emerges-of-hillary-clinton-proposing-rigging-palestine-election/ Source.

October 28, 2016 - 13:08

Hudson Martinez

Okay playing devils advocate and based on the audio quality I'm not one hundred percent sure that's her talking

October 28, 2016 - 13:08

Adrian Flores

if trump wins because anthony wienrs dick this will go down as the greatest meme election of all time.

October 28, 2016 - 13:09

Elijah Hill

The owner of this website is married to one of Trump's kids so shills will write it off.

October 28, 2016 - 13:12

Ian Edwards

the Republicans will never air a pro-Palestine ad

October 28, 2016 - 13:12

Adrian Gomez

Quoted wrong post

October 28, 2016 - 13:12

Justin Baker

S C H L O N G E D

October 28, 2016 - 13:13

Nicholas Torres

Y'all niggas seen this shit?

I know they're not real, but I feel like they almost could be

October 28, 2016 - 13:18

Anthony Wright

They will be in a couple of years. We're planning to go into Syria right now.

October 28, 2016 - 13:19

Liam Cook

I mean, think about the vietnam war, all those poor bastards got drafted to go fight and didnt even want to be there.
Now imagine ww3, you are lost in the Siberian wastelands, hiding from russian bastards, just you and stacy, her favorite hobbies before this where texting and watching keeping up with the kardashians

October 28, 2016 - 13:23

Austin Young

they're pretty good tbh, I congratulate Holla Forums.

We should make some stuff that's like
#HillAryan #HillaReich #SiegHill

October 28, 2016 - 13:25

Jayden Johnson

Will I at least be able to get laid then

October 28, 2016 - 13:30

Benjamin Hall

cnn.com/2016/10/28/politics/fbi-reviewing-new-emails-in-clinton-probe-director-tells-senate-judiciary-committee/
FBI IS REOPENING THE CLINTON PROBE

October 28, 2016 - 13:34

Nathan Taylor

no, it will be like every video game escort mission.

October 28, 2016 - 13:37

Dylan Rodriguez

...

October 28, 2016 - 13:44

Nolan Jackson

There are many video game escort missions where a woman has to protect a man. Siri in Witcher 3 for instance.

October 28, 2016 - 13:48

Jackson Rogers

Shhh, haven't you heard that video games are sexist? I bet you don't even watch Feminist Frequency.

October 28, 2016 - 13:50

Jordan Adams

CNN just played the clip months ago when Trump was blasting Hillary for her top aide being affiliated to 'that sleazeball' Weiner who pillow talk about national secrets.

October 28, 2016 - 13:54

Nathan Howard

Far more likely Podesta was simply hacked, he was using really bad passwords. Another story is that his emails got stolen because he once forgot his phone in a taxi, which he really did.

October 28, 2016 - 14:02

Asher Thomas

What are you smoking, kike?

The amount of fraud in electronic banking and credit card processing is staggering. Most "fraud protection" involves catching malicious interactions before they hit a bank account, or reversing them before they can be capitalized upon, because there is no defense at any point which is even close to completely effective.

The difference between banking and ballots is two things:

1. Ballots are anonymous. Even if you can prove someone voted more than once, you can't prove WHICH votes are theirs. Even if they admit to fraud and tell you what votes they made more than once, you cannot prove they are telling the truth. Imagine a Clinton supporter created 30 fraudulent ballots for Clinton and submitted them; if they got caught, they could lie and tell the investigators they actually did 30 votes for Trump. If the investigators believed them, then they would remove 30 Trump votes and double the damage done by the Clinton supporter. This means you CANNOT reliably determine the scope (or nature) of a given case of election fraud, nor can you reliably reverse it.

tl;dr: election fraud is much harder to reverse

2. Elections are much higher-impact than garden variety monetary fraud. An illegally elected ruler gains influence that can be used to subvert or prevent efforts to determine the correct voting outcome. He can also use his power to prevent his constituents from replacing him, if he has the necessary political capital. Meanwhile, even if he is removed, he has a large (months? years?) window of opportunity to cause unlimited damage to his nation's legal system before being brought to heel. While theft or fraud of a monetary variety can be absorbed, reversed, or even mitigated through insurance or similar, electoral fraud is much more damaging.

tl;dr: election fraud is much higher-impact

October 28, 2016 - 14:08

Mason Rivera

lmao that john legend song that plays after

October 28, 2016 - 14:12

Jason Gomez

You're a fucking retard m8. People don't rig elections using ballots and fake voters, they rig it by fucking with the registration databases, messing with voting districts (cutting locations, gerrymandering), or just plain falsifying the numbers. Hillary beat B████ by purging hundreds of thousands of young or irregular voters from the databases before they could even show up to vote. It would be much harder and more elaborate to send in tons of fake ballots.

October 28, 2016 - 14:52

Ryder White

Ballots could also be pseudonymous, for instance by requiring each vote to be encrypted with a unique private key that was issued by the registrar. Inserting fake votes would, short of gaining access to the registry's own private key (basically impossible), require either fraudulently registering lots of people (easily traced and corrected), or stealing large numbers of private keys from people who who register but don't vote (as above, but even more difficult).

October 28, 2016 - 14:56

Luis Brown

The original argument was about whether or not electronic voting, particularly over the internet from a PC, would be more or less secure than hand-counted paper ballots. If so, the idea is that the greater speed, efficiency, cheapness, openness, and central control would minimize or prevent many of the fraudulent techniques used against [REDACTED].

October 28, 2016 - 15:02

Gabriel Roberts

See, this is why I'm not too worried about a Hillary presidency. She has blood in the water already and the sharks are lining up to take a piece out of her.

October 28, 2016 - 15:03

Oliver Perez

being pro military-industrial complex does not mean being against "clean" elections in palestine. Bibi himself would run something like this against his own opponent, as Jews are want to do. And the Israelis themselves trust Trump far more than Hilary:

jpost.com/Opinion/Twilight-of-American-Jewry-467862

October 28, 2016 - 15:13

Adam Gutierrez

Hilary just had a live statement on TV, to sum it up:

1. She will comply with the investigation
2. The "american people" care about the real issues, and she is "certain most people have already made their mind up on that issue"
3. The FBI should release exactly what they have, direct quote: "share whatever facts they claim to have happened, and I expect they will:

In all, it felt unscripted (mostly because she kept saying and…, and….., and…….) but otherwise nothing you wouldn't expect out of a press conference like this.

October 28, 2016 - 16:14

Nathan Harris

youtube.com/watch?v=MhIIIXp8lXw

Jimmy has stopped giving a fuck

October 28, 2016 - 16:26

Dominic Ross

Jimmy's so close to being a proper revolutionary, I'm so proud of him.

October 28, 2016 - 16:27

Jonathan Russell

Here's a CNN live stream, you can still catch it if you rewind back.
youtube.com/watch?v=h3F2hfs95Ss

October 28, 2016 - 16:27

Daniel King

is he going full chairman? what's his opinion on Ukraine?

October 28, 2016 - 16:34

Mason Cook

...

October 28, 2016 - 16:47

Isaac Taylor

Man. Those porkies just can't wait…I wish we could just stop using oil.

October 28, 2016 - 16:57

Owen Evans

how long until he quits TYT?

October 28, 2016 - 17:47

Kayden Martinez

Comrade Dore is going to become bigger than TYT and it's going to be great.

October 28, 2016 - 17:54

Bentley Diaz

I can't wait to see him call out cenk and just walk off

October 28, 2016 - 17:56

Thomas Davis

Maybe we can get Jimmy and the guy from Secular Talk to collab?

October 28, 2016 - 18:04

Jaxson James

youtube.com/watch?v=JZAFD5chKmA

Jimmy "Drop a Cop" Dore

October 28, 2016 - 18:39

Bentley Russell

stop hyping this shit. Just because he's one of the few socdems who are consistent doesn't mean he's anywhere close to becoming revolutionary or that he's even moving in that direction. You're just setting people up for disappointment. Everyone should know by now, from the S█████ run (if not from World War I), that socdems are a shit

October 28, 2016 - 18:42

Luis Anderson

I love you.

October 28, 2016 - 18:43

Isaiah Thomas

Socdems are just one good push away from being proper communists

October 28, 2016 - 19:48

Leo Jones

It's just a means to an end for them

October 28, 2016 - 20:00

Henry Sanders

Before any new damning information comes out? Is that it? You know that its all down hill from here so you're desperate to get people to support you before its too late?

October 28, 2016 - 20:20

Julian Green

I imagine this early voting stuff makes it 15-20x more difficult to monitor polls.

October 28, 2016 - 20:26

Luke Green

youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Bm5-M1bCkL8#t=542
so close

October 28, 2016 - 22:24

Carter Scott

I feel like "vote early" has been a refrain of every candidate and campaign for a long time now.

I mean if soneone does it because their candidate reminds then too that's one vote you get that you might not have gotten just due to individual circumstances

October 28, 2016 - 23:54

Camden Murphy

WHAT A LEGEND

October 29, 2016 - 00:24

Andrew Powell

right wingers will never respond to this

October 29, 2016 - 00:40

Caleb Wood

if you don't think jimmy would fight for a commie future if given the chance you are dead wrong

October 29, 2016 - 00:41

Jordan Price

Little Huma is crying.

This is the picture of this election season.

October 29, 2016 - 02:27

Camden Diaz

What does the FBI reopening the investigation actually mean for the Clinton campaign? Why now?

October 29, 2016 - 02:29

Noah Brooks

Better resolution.

October 29, 2016 - 02:32

Lucas Robinson

Biden's reaction when he learned that the emails came from Weiner.

youtube.com/watch?v=bdCuDF4u5Yg

October 29, 2016 - 02:40

Gavin Ramirez

BEST
CURRENT
YEAR
EVER

I can only hope the stream of legal scandals and "resignations" among the administration of whoever wins the election will surpass this.

October 29, 2016 - 02:50

Evan Price

FTFY

October 29, 2016 - 03:46

David Barnes

You can tell he's so sick of defending that bitch.

October 29, 2016 - 04:22

Juan Diaz

Who wore it better?

October 29, 2016 - 07:55

Jordan Lee

youtube.com/watch?v=JZAFD5chKmA

Comrade Dore shitting on the police

October 29, 2016 - 08:07

Henry Cooper

...

October 29, 2016 - 08:07

Adam Howard

"Stroking gun" is severely savage

October 29, 2016 - 08:26

Jaxson Scott

Only 2 points separate Clinton, Trump in latest tracking poll
archive.fo/OChoB

October 29, 2016 - 08:41

Gabriel Clark

Opinion polls this election have been so worthless, between the lies, the constant oscillations, and the narrow gap.

October 29, 2016 - 08:51

Jonathan Bailey

Is a Brexit scenario possible? Everybody thought, and polls showed, that majority will vote "remain". The campaigns for "leave" were a complete sham, just marketing for certain politicians, such as Boris & Nigel, who didn't expect a win either. Yet the result was "leave" despite all of that. I think we have a similar situation here as well.

October 29, 2016 - 09:01

Owen Ortiz

Huma crying isnt a good sign for camp shillary
If the emails deal massive damage, independents could turn to trump

October 29, 2016 - 09:03

Andrew Brown

imo the fbi reopening the investigation into Clinton is her death knell. I've stated my case earlier in the thread

Expect the MSM to pull out all the stops to try and boost her but the more they push the more they're going to alienate Hilldawg from voters that haven't already drowned in kool aid.

October 29, 2016 - 09:36

Nicholas Scott

Trash

October 29, 2016 - 09:45

Jason Nelson

Hillary looks like she's about to choke a bitch.

October 29, 2016 - 10:04

Cameron Young

She's experiencing a hangup because her processors can't parse the meaning behind this display of human emotion.

October 29, 2016 - 10:07

Liam Flores

...

October 29, 2016 - 11:59

Oliver Hernandez

Silly. They don't teach burgers any history beyond world War II

October 29, 2016 - 12:19

Nathaniel Carter

...

October 29, 2016 - 12:27

Jaxon Russell

WEW

October 29, 2016 - 12:32

Jaxson Rivera

Why does Hillary dress so strangely? She is definitely trying to cultivate a particular look, but why?

October 29, 2016 - 12:33

Carter Nguyen

Why is Anthony Wiener so based?

October 29, 2016 - 12:34

Chase Ramirez

To remind the proles she isn't one of them. She never was.

October 29, 2016 - 12:35

Blake Morales

Why not put both in jail?

October 29, 2016 - 12:36

Thomas Williams

I think she's eschewed the appearance of "femininity" as much as possible to try and cultivate a more "masculine" image of a competent, decisive politician. When she was first lady she wore dresses and things like that, but I don't recall ever seeing her in one afterwards.

"Pant suits" I guess are as far as she can go without "dressing like a man."

October 29, 2016 - 12:38

Jason Campbell

She dresses like Kim Jong-Il.

October 29, 2016 - 13:16

Isaac Price

Yeah, it's definitely an authoritarian look.

October 29, 2016 - 13:22

Lucas Hernandez

Something like this?

October 29, 2016 - 13:39

Ayden Green

Come on. That's clearly her. Especially given the subject matter.

October 29, 2016 - 14:43

Angel Cox

lol I've thinking this for months.

October 29, 2016 - 14:49

Ethan Reed

...

October 29, 2016 - 15:06

James Gray

tbh it doesn't look like Huma Abedin is crying

October 29, 2016 - 15:31

Adam Lee

No way, because that makes Holla Forums(& by proxy, us) look bad instead of Hillary.

October 29, 2016 - 16:15

Benjamin Roberts

🍀🍀🍀This is a Test Post🍀🍀🍀

October 29, 2016 - 16:38

Parker Davis

From NYT.

October 29, 2016 - 16:40

Liam Richardson

I'm not sure it would actually be possible for Holla Forums to look worse than it already does, to be honest.

October 29, 2016 - 16:41

Austin Gutierrez

wtf how did Wiener get these emails? Does this mean there might be a record of those emails which Clinton deamed "non-work-related"?

October 29, 2016 - 16:43

Benjamin Fisher

Also, what if Weiner was reading classified documents/emails without clearance?

October 29, 2016 - 16:45

Michael Rivera

;~;

October 29, 2016 - 16:52

Jason Foster

See

Also, from what I've read, they were found on the computer that Huma & Weiner shared.

October 29, 2016 - 16:53

Andrew Cooper

Can these fuckers stop buying articles & be original for once? Journalism has been dead, for a while.

October 29, 2016 - 16:56

Jaxon Jones

It's way too clear that they're just using talking points provided to them.

October 29, 2016 - 16:57

Xavier Gonzalez

I wouldn't be surprised if either of those happened.

October 29, 2016 - 17:17

Matthew Brown

In my own irrelevant country all of the media not only copies these talking points from global MSM but also their phrases, metaphors, arguments, etc… First I read some shitty news article in the Guardian, the next day I see the same article basically rewritten in my own language.
I'm not expecting original journalism about foreign affairs, but this is what you get when global MSM becomes so hegemonic and homogeneous.
I suspect that they haven't been reporting about WikiLeaks simply because they don't even know much about it from these sources.

October 29, 2016 - 17:22

Jonathan Watson

Comrade Jimmy Dore made a video about this

youtube.com/watch?v=JVQH-dYIzgg

October 29, 2016 - 17:51

Jaxson Cooper

based weiner subverting the emerald empire

October 29, 2016 - 17:54

Jace Robinson

That's a fantastic point. I'm American & recently moved to India. I noticed the exact same thing in their media. It's fucking scary.

October 29, 2016 - 18:16

Blake Lewis

Oh man, I saw this video. Conan O'Brien famously pointed it out, too. More people need to see this. I never use FB, but I'm going to share this video so more people realize exactly what's happening. And it's been going on for a long time, too! Wtf..

October 29, 2016 - 18:18

Nathan Cooper

It's happening in Brazil too.

October 29, 2016 - 18:26

Jacob Edwards

...

October 29, 2016 - 18:34

Angel Cruz

Hue here, can confirm. MSM is copying american media word by word.

October 29, 2016 - 18:35

Ryder Watson

youtube.com/watch?v=cdr8QG0KNug

This is the company about to buy out Time Warner.

October 29, 2016 - 18:36

Nathaniel Flores

We're rapidly approaching the cyberpunk dystopia

October 29, 2016 - 18:42

Ryan Foster

Holy fuck! not surprised but still holy fuck

October 29, 2016 - 18:53

Nathaniel Collins

A third HUE here. Beyond the sheer laziness, it really is uncanny how the mainstream media seems to make a concerted effort to Americanize our culture.

October 29, 2016 - 19:04

Ryder Wood

HHHHHNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH

October 29, 2016 - 19:07

Tyler Butler

Chairman S█████ shall rid the world of outdated concepts such as you, Satan.

October 29, 2016 - 19:22

Ryan Walker

If only

October 29, 2016 - 19:25

Ayden Wood

Is it happening after all?

October 29, 2016 - 19:28

Asher Long

Is this new scandal a sign that the bourgeoisie are abandoning Clinton or see Trump as a better option?

October 29, 2016 - 19:38

Jaxson Sanchez

No, I mean, it's still the same scandal as last time right? The only other time I can recall Clinton being treated this way by the talking class writ large is when she collapsed and pretended nothing was wrong. Then she lied about have pneumonia and everyone bought it.

October 29, 2016 - 19:47

Luis Brown

Wow, its almost like 6 corporations own everything and trade deals have allowed global media to be controlled by them to broadcast globalist american propaganda to the world in order to shape every country into cultureless consumers.

October 29, 2016 - 19:48

Andrew Roberts

DELETE THIS

October 29, 2016 - 20:03

Joshua Flores

Don't you poor slobs also get zillionth-hand official translations of anime and vidya? Like Japanese➙English➙German➙Russian➙Polish?

October 29, 2016 - 22:45

Blake Williams

No, we don't get translations at all and we don't need them. We understand the cultural imperialist's language well enough.

October 29, 2016 - 23:00

Wyatt Collins

Oh, sorry about that. Maybe you guys could try sending back a few salvos to distort our culture like the Japanese or Canadians.

October 29, 2016 - 23:17

Aiden Robinson

We have already deployed one of our Marxist-Lacanians to subvert the American youth and intelligentsia, now we're trying to achieve a coup through Melanija. Clintons are right about Trump, except that he's a Slovenian puppet, not a Russian one. A nation of less than two million people will soon control more than 300 million Americans.
Our other main target is North Korea:
youtube.com/watch?v=fJPjaaNTZeQ

October 30, 2016 - 00:31

Zachary Evans

What. the. fuck.

October 30, 2016 - 03:27

William Foster

time to disconnect

October 30, 2016 - 03:31

Austin Wilson

This is how coups begin.

October 30, 2016 - 05:42

Hudson Clark

...

October 30, 2016 - 06:26

Joseph Hughes

Shit's getting nuts ferreal

October 30, 2016 - 06:36

Austin Rogers

Why? Hillary just keeps proving herself as the better option, considering she has so much dirt on her that she's buried already. Dirt people can use to keep her impotent.

October 30, 2016 - 07:05

Brody Williams

Is Comey clearing house for the inevitable investigation into collusion between the Clintons and state machinery? Why'd he announce the investigation?

October 30, 2016 - 07:33

Zachary Thompson

Hilldawg's last check bounced

October 30, 2016 - 07:42

David Rodriguez

Loreta Lynch is a real festering turd

October 30, 2016 - 07:53

Ayden Miller

Hillary will sell the white house to the highest bourgeousie bidders, and she'll serve Israel's middle-east ambitions to the fullest.

October 30, 2016 - 07:59

Charles Robinson

She can try. I don't know how far she'll get with no public support and everyone out for her blood. The Republicans will be eager for some payback and S█████ will be breathing down her neck.

She's going to be severely handicapped as a President.

October 30, 2016 - 08:25

Jose Hill

Anyone else think that they blew their load too early with the whole emails thing? It could have hurt Hillary a lot more if it was brought up and opened now instead of months ago.

Then again, maybe waiting until now would have been seen as too much of a coincidence to smear Hillary right before the election and not taken seriously.

October 30, 2016 - 08:32

Jaxon Evans

Wait too long and people will have already voted. My county has had early voting polls open for two or three weeks now. Vote by mail has been available to people for months.

October 30, 2016 - 08:48

Tyler Morales

Post links if you have them, guys. I've been out of town & haven't been able to follow it as closely as I usually do.

If you have good articles or videos, please post for us!

It really pisses me of how the general election is so open & accommodating, yet the Primaries are often closed. All should be as open as the general. Hell, in the general they'll even offer you a ride to the polls!

October 30, 2016 - 09:02

Joshua Parker

I think it worked out great. It's been steadily in the news with harder hits here & there, for the better part of a year, now. That's taken a substantial toll on her favorables & trustworthiness.

At this point if she wins the election, she'll be the first President in history to go into office with a negative approval rating.

She's so fucked now, lmao. We can thank S a n d e r s & Wikileaks for that. Say what you want about S a n d e r s, but he did a great service in exposing just how slimy Hillary is, to many democratic party voters. He helped me personally become more politically active, and to become a socialist. Too bad he's a reformist, but, we can't have it all, can we?

October 30, 2016 - 09:06

Brandon Cruz

This. If Wikileaks didn't kill Hillary, it certainly crippled her presidency beyond repair.

October 30, 2016 - 09:56

William Roberts

I thank Wikileaks, S█████ did nothing but get cucked and to this day remains to defend Hillary.

He's a weak-willed bitch.

October 30, 2016 - 09:59

Jeremiah Cook

I'm going to have to ask you to leave, sir.

October 30, 2016 - 11:22

Benjamin Taylor

It's true.

He bows down to Clinton like a bitch.

October 30, 2016 - 11:25

Joseph Morgan

Take that back right fucking now.

October 30, 2016 - 11:48

Colton Green

Jill Stein Has Investments In Fossil Fuel Companies

youtube.com/watch?v=_jWK4EhVCLE

October 30, 2016 - 12:09

Brayden Young

I personally think he or his family got threatened. If he won the nomination, most of the 'scandals' dogging Trump probably never would have come to light, and if he ran independent with the current state of issues today, he would stand a really good chance. I doubt that the Democrats would leave him as a loose end, and you know they use him as a talking point to try and get his voters on their side.

October 30, 2016 - 12:13

Connor Moore

This is actually a great strategy. Your enemy's power is directly proportional to your potential funding to attack them.
:^)

October 30, 2016 - 12:30

Aaron Thomas

I think you're reading too much into it. It was always pretty clear that 2016 was going to be Hillary's turn, and I think that he entered the race knowing that he was probably going to lose to her anyway.

He probably realised he was doomed when Hillary swept the (older) black and hispanic voters, since those ethnic blocks are what the Dems need to get into the White House (and which generally don't care about populism or economic policies, so much as what the Big Man can give them in gibs)

October 30, 2016 - 12:47

Levi Hernandez

Jew in investing money shocker

October 30, 2016 - 12:54

Gabriel Moore

(yew)

October 30, 2016 - 13:07

Nathan Brown

The older generation don't, which is why they sided with Hillary "Hot Sauce/Your Abuela" Clinton in the primaries.

That's why I mentioned them, since S█████ was tied (if not doing slightly better) among young black and hispanic Democrats in most of the primaries - unfortunately, like most young people, they don't bother voting in the primaries which lead to him getting crushed with story after story about why S█████ "couldn't get non-white voters excited"

October 30, 2016 - 13:15

Logan Ortiz

He's said himself that went into his Presidential bid ready to lose.

Looking at it, I believe his entire bid was to bring focus to progressive issues, and it succeeded beyond his wildest expectations. He's effectively altered the future of the Democratic party.

October 30, 2016 - 13:25

Brody Price

And he undermined that by endorsing Clinton, and thus lending his progressive bonafides to her campaign, when he could've clearly walked over the DNC pretty blatantly colluding with the Clinton campaign to fuck him over.

And if Hillary wins, that will cement the position of the Democrats as the radical centrist don't-rock-the-boat "put down the bong before you talk about economic policies, you fucking hippy" party

October 30, 2016 - 13:32

Oliver Hill

You know where it belongs.

October 30, 2016 - 14:27

Gavin Nelson

On the other hand, S█████' presidential bid and the ensuing attempts to undermine it have shown progressives more clearer than Jackson or Kucinich were ever able to to that the Democratic party isn't their friend.

October 30, 2016 - 14:33

Aaron Hughes

Which he's already planning to revoke once she becomes President. See

I really don't understand this idea that Hillary is going to somehow unite the Democrats with her poor popularity ratings and lack of trustworthiness into a new age of centrism, especially when she couldn't do it after the primary.

October 30, 2016 - 14:37

Nathaniel Rogers

I very, very rarely look at 8- and 4pol, and was genuinely surprised by how it seems they actually think Trump is going to make their lives better

Is Holla Forums really that gullible or does the onion have more layers than I can see through?

October 30, 2016 - 14:59

Nicholas White

Its 5 now I think.

October 30, 2016 - 15:27

Nathaniel Sanders

When he entered the race? Yeah, it was pretty much a statement/protest campaign, but after it took off, he was seriously in it to win it up until New York. After that just a show of power to gain future leverage, especially if a California win could've happened, since a S█████ win was impossible by that point barring recounts.

What angered people wasn't just his endorsement of Clinton, which was expected (although an indy run was far from out of the question), but his doing so BEFORE rather than AFTER the convention, and the terrible showing of faux unity on the DNC floor. If he had made a vigorous showing of defiance at the DNC, and backed up the discontent of his supporters, and the DNC vote had been as close as the vote indicated it had with a serious effort to court superdelegates, it would've made a much better impression and a far greater impact.

There are several angles:
1a. Stormniggers who just think their occidental-flavored wannabe jihad is gaining exposure through Trump and/or his supporters.
1b. GG who think Trump and/or his followers will redpill the masses against political correctness and fight SJWs, even if only as an incidental result of his own boorishness.
2. Trolls who think Trump is the Molotov through the window of the establishment we need.
3. Isolationists who hope Trump or his phenomenon will fight back against neocon/neolib domination of organized politics, instituting military noninterventionism, trade protectionism, reduced migration quotas, and domestic infrastructure development.

I fall under the latter 3, mostly (even though I'm not an isolationist, just opposed to deregulation and imperialism) #3.

October 30, 2016 - 16:11

Adam Turner

I am 3 for anti-imperialist and anti-globalization reasons, but also partially 2 in the sense of collective recognition that we are all sick of the status quo. I'm not a burger though. Majority of people still can't vote for our world president.
But yeah, it's pretty obvious that nobody seriously thinks Trump will "make America great again", although a lot of them might pretend to out of pure desperation.

October 30, 2016 - 16:50

Angel Anderson

Why do you think this?

October 30, 2016 - 16:54

Grayson Scott

Anything. I mean ANYTHING is better then Hillary.

October 30, 2016 - 16:58

Blake Wood

What a brave hero, where does he get the courage?

October 30, 2016 - 17:03

Anthony Cox

I'm definitely for making an example of a suspected leaker whether or not we have any real basis for it.
wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/36082#efmAGSAH-

October 30, 2016 - 17:05

Nicholas Rivera

The foundation of neocon/neolib power over politics is the idea that transnationalism (as opposed to true globalism) is inevitable, irresistible, beneficial, or even morally righteous. This is because it has served to alienate the working class from political goals such as the expectation of jobs, strict working conditions, pay, infrastructure, lawfulness, and stability, whether in the heart of the 1st-world, or among the vast swathes of the 3rd-world. It is also what has caused "leftism" to be overrun by SJW social pseudo-issues, in this economic issue-less vacuum.

Simply by closing the world's borders to transnational corporations and their (often unwitting) slaves, and demanding our laws (and the principles underlying them) be enforced, we will restore momentum to progress, and reunite leftism with workers under the populist banner.

October 30, 2016 - 17:12

Nathaniel Johnson

I'm actually shocked by Reid's comments w/r/t Comney. This has gone past the pale.

October 30, 2016 - 17:17

Ryder Hill

Trump actually fights against Clinton head-on, while B████ bows, that is unacceptable.

Take what back?

The truth.

October 30, 2016 - 17:21

Carter Myers

He definitely does, but Clinton has so much power he really has no other choice. Look at this shit that's happening right now. They're going after the rule of law itself just because HRC broke it.

October 30, 2016 - 17:29

Xavier Sanders

No, even in the US, there are still more than half the population fighting against Clinton.

B████ ██████ is just fucking afraid.

October 30, 2016 - 17:40

Nicholas Bailey

But look how far popular support gets you. Every newspaper endorses HRC, every S█████ supporting element of the DNC is robbed of resources, ousted or bullied into submission. B████ has no institutional support not independent wealth. Nothing he can do. If he fights he'll be burned up and forgotten in a single news cycle.

October 30, 2016 - 17:49

Colton Carter

And feudalists fight against capitalism, doesn't mean we should ally with them.

October 30, 2016 - 17:52

Camden Morris

new letter from Harry Ried, who is retiring this year and will be out of office on Jan 1st. He's also the person responsible for delaying Yucca Mtn back a decade

October 30, 2016 - 18:44

Nathaniel Adams

lmao

October 30, 2016 - 18:45

Sebastian Mitchell

SHIT'S POPPIN'!

October 30, 2016 - 18:47

Mason Rodriguez

If Hilary wins, this is how it will go down: Huma will be indicted and will stay quiet until she realizes Hilary won't save her. Remember, Nixon did not save Agnew. Once she realizes a Pardon won't happen, she'll crack wide open and give Comey all the blackmail he wants. Publicly, Congress will continue getting closer until they get access to her files which is when the other shoe drops and they go right to Comey who will blame the AG. The AG will take the 5th and President Hilary will have to testify before Congress.

This is when shit would hit the fan for her: Congress will demand her current emails. She will say No. Congress will then sue her, and the courts will force her to give them up. Hilary, now backed into the exact same corner Nixon was, will resign and Kaine will assume office with his first act being a Pardon for her. Then the GOP get a Supermajority in 2018, followed up by President Cruz in 2020. A carbon copy of the stunt Reagan pulled. Then, as it's a Census year, the 2020s and 2030s are dominated by the GOP.

The only way to prevent this is if Trump wins. I don't like it, but it's true.

October 30, 2016 - 18:52

Jack Nelson

To think, back in 2008 my entire Union hall was filled with about 400 energetic, happy workers who were all watching Obama get elected with our local legislator. Then it all came apart in 2009 and 2011 as the car industry left and a Republican was elected and a Right-To-Work law was passed. Every single event has been quiet this year, people either moved away or went freelance. On November 8th there's only eight people confirmed attending.

It's sad to see, and as much as I hate Snyder for being a bastard I hate Obama more. He let us sink. His party is sinking too. Never trust anyone from Chicago.

October 30, 2016 - 18:57

Wyatt Wilson

Hillary will protect anyone who gets indited and the entire Democratic Party will close ranks and block any investigation and try to oust any supposedly independent power that seeks to prosecute them.

America was simply less corrupt under Nixon, somehow.

October 30, 2016 - 18:59

Hudson Thompson

And who is to say that China won't be the new world power enforcing neoliberalism for the world to follow?

October 30, 2016 - 19:01

Easton Rogers

This action from Reid is totally indefensible to be honest. I was going to vote down ticket dem but not anymore. I cannot support this praty at all.

October 30, 2016 - 19:01

Brody Rogers

Y'all are lucky that AT&T even has any competition. Before the 1980s they were the ONLY option for telco service, as their subsidiary Bell Labs were a major defense contractor. Hell, we're lucky that AT&T didn't try to control the spread of transistors and prevent the rise of personal computers.

AT&T, and it's new friends, are a good example as to why open standards and public utilities are so important.

October 30, 2016 - 19:02

Daniel Campbell

What does he consider about Comeys investigation to be partisan? If anything they let HRC walk for political reasons.

October 30, 2016 - 19:03

Carson Collins

It won't happen, because Hilary knows she can't take back Congress and she has to keep the House at bay otherwise they will destroy her. Comey knows this too, so he'll blackmail her until she tries to knock him off or force him into retirement. Remember how Nixon went down: the Associate FBI Director leaked everything to the Washington Post. That is what Comey, and everyone under him, is capable of doing and Hilary knows it. The problem for her is that Congress already has enough leaked stuff to get more sworn testimony, so she can't go around issuing Pardons because they will ask her and that will begin a line of questioning she wouldn't be able to recover from.

Also, if ranks have to close than they will close in service of Hilary and only Hilary. If Huma is a casualty then the party will accept it.

October 30, 2016 - 19:06

Samuel Rivera

Not the guy you're responding to, but because the only country capable of enforcing anything on anyone else is the US and Russia due to both investing stupid amounts of money in their militaries and intelligence/espionage services. China's military is tankie tier, which is to say that it is only capable of dealing with domestic insurrection against protesters and the occasional secessionist movement (and even then they do it with no grace, they use tanks and AKs no tasers or riot shields).

Neoliberalism, above all, requires everyone involved to be complicit. This was fine during the Cold War, when there was one enemy (communism), and it worked during the boom years until 2008. Now in 2016 it is coming completely unglued because not even banks can make money anymore (due to historically low interest rates, designed to encourage spending). It's all falling apart and the end result is either nationalism or communism.

October 30, 2016 - 19:12

Carson Foster

(this is not to say either are mutually exclusive, though)

October 30, 2016 - 19:13

Nathan Williams

Whew, remember this one?

October 30, 2016 - 19:29

Dominic Jenkins

What's actually absurd here is that we all know this and she's not even elected yet. The new normal of democracy. Sometimes you have to take a step back to realize how far we've come.

October 30, 2016 - 19:30

Jose Sanchez

If it makes you feel any better, Ried will be gone on Jan 1st as he chose to retire this year. Also make your decisions based on your local legislators, not what a retiring senator is doing. His office in DC is already empty right now.

October 30, 2016 - 19:33

Ayden Jones

a.k.a. "race to the bottom". TV used to be a public service, a government monopoly, that tried to educate the public. Maybe not in America, but in some places that was the case only a decade or two ago. But that was too "elitist", and we were liberated with entertainment that doesn't require any effort.

October 30, 2016 - 19:42

Eli Thomas

I'm not expert on "the Chinese mind" or whatever, but you don't go from being a major power to suffering a century of humiliation at the hands of foreign powers to being a major power again without learning anything from the experience.

Unlike the United States on the other hand, which has pretty much gone from strength to strength to strength, resulting in the adoption of all that "End of History"/"Pax Americana" claptrap after the collapse of the USSR, i.e. their last major rival for global influence.

And since the idea of an "End of History" is one of the major ideological drivers of neo-liberalism, I don't really see China picking up the torch to assist a faltering US

October 30, 2016 - 19:45

Christian Myers

For reference:

In the US AT&T had a full monopoly on telephone service, until the government broke up their monopoly into several regional monopolies. This is how Comcast came about: none of these monopolies made a lot of money (as the big cash was in long distance calls), but Comcast managed to get money for broadband lines to offer cable TV (which made lots of money especially through porn). As a bonus, these lines could later (in the mid 00s) also offer much faster Internet service using modified TV modems. They expanded and with AT&T growing back we arrive to today.

On the flip side American TV was local, run by individual studios affiliated with networks (but only to run cartoons, prime time news, and the occasional sitcom). This was a direct result of TV being a wireless service, meaning markets were cut up by antenna ranges. The mass consolidation that occurred didn't happen until cable TV went mainstream in the late 90s. Part of this consolidation has resulted in the rise of Clearchannel, who buy up bankrupt studios (most of whom died following the 2009 digital switchover).

October 30, 2016 - 19:55

Owen Barnes

The lying media cannot suppress the truth.

Especially when your side got the backing of the ruskies *nudge nudge wink wink*

October 30, 2016 - 20:05

Andrew Harris

The US isn't faltering. Certainly the election is a shitshow and there are huge institutional problems (the death of the middle class being chief among them) but comparatively the US is by far the best off. This is proven by emigration rates, the US is the one country educated people do not leave. While the US is facing stagnation, the Eurozone and China face depression if not outright collapse of their monetary systems.

They learned a lot, mostly how to shoot protesters. Remember that modern China as we presently know it only began in 2000 with the normalizing of trade relations, and China's current regime only began in 1976 when Mao died. Before that, China's Communist politburo only came to power in 1949. In the 1950s and 60s China had the world's largest famine, because tankies are fucking stupid and sent farmers to work in schools while having professors manage farms. Point being, the people running modern China is not the same as the ones running it China 70 years ago.

October 30, 2016 - 20:07

Eli Myers

Here's most likely what will happen to in a Trump presidency

Potential shit that goes in our favor(probably won't though)
>2020 primary has a progressive candidate as the nominee (Warren, or Gabbard)

October 30, 2016 - 20:13

Jace Jones

That's like saying you should be happy you're the last raft going off a cliff. There are major structural problems that the United States is not going to weather if the Eurozone and Chinese economies take a nosedive. It's a neo-liberal inanity to believe that the US will survive whatever takes down its major trading partners because…uh…USA USA USA

I know they're not, I was commenting on the fact that the Chinese haven't had two centuries of almost unimpeded growth and success from which to delude themselves into believing that the success will continue forever because of the RIGHTS and FREEDOMS enshrined in ARE CONSTITUTION

October 30, 2016 - 20:16

Ian Hernandez

the USA, like Russia, have the capacity of self-sufficiency.

Even if all go down, the USA can still thrive off itself.

October 30, 2016 - 20:22

Mason Smith

The what now?

October 30, 2016 - 20:22

Kayden Jones

Enough S█████ spam. Some anti B████ board that had posts making S█████ some ebin agitator who was ruining Shillary's chances to become president. They hated him so much those fuckers sent posts wanting S█████ to drop dead to their front page.

October 30, 2016 - 20:28

Henry Diaz

Is there a further left and younger version of B████ that can be electable by 2020?

What ever happened to the Grassroots candidates that B████ is supporting?

What can we do to make this country go further left?

October 30, 2016 - 20:28

Carson Peterson

the only thing left to S█████ is the North Dakota pipeline shit and frankly americans don't care lol

Sanders better prepare himself when Hillary loses, because the Clinton foundation is not above assassination and cleaning up.

October 30, 2016 - 20:29

Jacob Powell

What I want to know is who Kaine would make his VP.

The logical choice is Schumer or Durbin, maybe Pelosi, Hoyer, or Kind, Grijalva, or Ellison. Really though I think past those first three him grasping at straws to avoid making B████ his VP would be incredibly self-evident. So my guess is it will be one of those four.

Also I know people haven't believed Warren when she said she didn't want to be in the executive branch but I imagine she isn't lying.

One thing's for sure, though- B████ will definitely be Chairman of the Budget Committee, and President pro tempore if Leahy isn't for whatever reason. He will be third in the chain of succession if that does happen, and the most logical pick for Kaine's VP. That doesn't mean it will happen, though.

October 30, 2016 - 20:37

Samuel Jenkins

Your analogy is off: the US is the lifeboat. I'd even argue it's a submarine. It is the last resort for all porkies because of America's complete military dominance. Nothing gets by the US Navy. As the rest of the world falls apart the comparatively stable USD will skyrocket in value. Remember, everything is priced in relation to each other.

That's not to say Americans will be rolling in money and everyone will be happy, far from it, but the core functions of the US government will survive. ATMs will work, if they don't the FDIC will issue USD redeemable Scrip. The USD will always pay investors out, come hell or high water. The only times they got close was due to temporary political infighting, and not an actual inability to pay. This is what separates the US from the rest of the world.

I get that. And also to be clear I'm not suggesting Americans would be successful, just the US government.

Though, even then I'd still argue that they did get get two decades of unimpeded growth, which is now going to terminate with a full-blown depression.

October 30, 2016 - 20:46

Logan Peterson

Seriously? Let Trump win. He will terminate the GOP's hold on Congress and their campaign to retake the national government. With Hilary gone, things will fall into place.

October 30, 2016 - 20:47

Austin Barnes

Democratic Senators by Seniority: Leahy, Mikulski, Feinstein and Murray.

October 30, 2016 - 20:48

Austin Lopez

just asking a question from a non-biased point of view: do you leftists think trump has a chance to win? several weeks ago the same question was asked, and you commies bombarded me with "hurr durr hillary already won election is rigged". what about now? can trump still win?

October 30, 2016 - 20:56

Colton Cruz

Realistically the election is rigged no matter who wins

October 30, 2016 - 21:00

Adam Adams

Absolutely. He's speaking directly to all the Union workers that have been laid off under Obama. Rattner's "reforms" caused at least half (if not more) of GM jobs to go to Mexico while Ford is divesting it's last factory out of Michigan. Detroit itself was bankrupt in 2013 and the state went Right-To-Work (previously thought impossible) in 2014. The remaining Democrats either moved to blue states for don't turn out. Obama's solution to this was "retraining" blue collar people for "real jobs" by having them take on student loans, but nobody actually bought into that crap.

That's just MI, but the same message applies to people in Wisconsin, Ohio and Pennsylvania. Meanwhile blacks won't be turning out (especially given Hilary's very poor record towards them, and BLM's treatment outside the DNC) and most of us will be voting Green. Her only core left is Mexicans, but they're fleeting as bona fide Mexican immigrants hate sudacas and want them deported.

Trump has an edge, as a result. This is especially true if there's some big new FBI reveal against Hilary next weekend.

When? The mood here has been a solid 50/50 going back to the DNCleaks.

October 30, 2016 - 21:08

Isaiah Torres

It's a bullshit article, of course. I've seen it shared around on reddit.

A Harvard doctor made smart investments? It also say she uses TurboTax, lmao, and not accountants. That's humbling. The accusations of having money in big oil, is she invested in a fund, that invests in oil. So it's a stretch, anyway.

Funny to see even more hit jobs on Stein. You made it to the big times, gal! It's just like the attacks we saw on S█████, where they tried to say he's invested in banks, while talking about his fucking 401k, lmao. Stein & S█████ are so clean, they have to talk shit about their retirement funds. :^)

October 30, 2016 - 21:09

Oliver Gonzalez

Damn it, can you guys link to articles or videos? I'm kinda in the dark here. Stuck in bumfuck India with less online access atm.

Halp me out, guys.

October 30, 2016 - 21:11

Colton Powell

...

October 30, 2016 - 21:14

Ayden Johnson

WTF! The fucking audacity of these pricks to think they can dictate how the FBI conducts an investigation. This is just incredible.

You know the FBI is starting to hate the Clinton group. At least the footsoldiers are.

October 30, 2016 - 21:18

Luis Flores

It's hilarious that Clinton is so terrible & the hypocrisy is so blatant. When it comes to herself, or her disgusting supporters.

October 30, 2016 - 21:20

Christian Lopez

ok i know you leftists are pretty much incapable of looking through other people's perspectives, but does trump have a chance of winning the elections, ignoring the "le capital controls everyone xDDD" narrative?

thank you someone with some common sense

October 30, 2016 - 21:20

Gavin Johnson

Bernie, everyone else is to the right of him at least slightly
Still around. Some are set to win, like Teachout, who I'm particularly excited for. Check out Our Revolution.
Join SAlt or similar, vote in small elections, maybe run yourself. Pay attention to B████'s Our Revolution.

Mikulski and Feinstein are quitting. I made the mistake of going by age.

That's what they said about Reagan.

October 30, 2016 - 21:20

Jaxon Peterson

No
Fuck off glib

October 30, 2016 - 21:21

Carter Smith

mad

October 30, 2016 - 21:22

Asher Barnes

This is called LEFTYpol

October 30, 2016 - 21:26

Parker Ortiz

thank you for correcting the record

October 30, 2016 - 21:33

Jack Cook

Not an argument, fag

October 30, 2016 - 21:41

William Nguyen

I think some Holla Forums users got tired of constant memeing & want some conversation. It's fine. Good to have some upfront, counter views on the board.

But yeah, the Trump shilling can get a bit old. Hillary is so fucked though, that even as a leftist I can understand why someone votes for him out of accelerationism or pure hatred for Clinton. Only Clinton could ever make me have to defend Trump at any time. I hate the guy & he's a porky piece of shit, but at least he hasn't gotten so many people killed by his policies.

I rarely FB, but a friend shared this article: newmatilda.com/2016/03/23/john-pilger-why-hillary-clinton-is-more-dangerous-than-donald-trump/

I thought it was very interesting. Trump's an imbecile, but Clinton is downright Machiavellian. He doesn't know what he's doing, but she knows exactly what sh'es doing, and that can be more damaging.

We're fucked, either way.

October 30, 2016 - 21:52

Angel Allen

That being said, you Trump/pol/ assholes should've helped us defeat Clinton. She's now going to be coronated, and we could've worked together.

I think most of you would agree a working class representative socialist is better than Clinton.

October 30, 2016 - 21:54

Oliver Taylor

Lol at anyone believing Trump has a shot.

October 30, 2016 - 21:57

Kevin Reyes

We have helped to defeat Clinton in everywhere possible, to the point of making a Trump victory possible.

You refuse to abandon S█████, a pathetic cuck, you deserve your fate.

October 30, 2016 - 21:59

Jayden White

Trump is fighting against Clinton right this moment while S█████ shill for Clinton.

October 30, 2016 - 22:01

Mason Harris

traitor

October 30, 2016 - 22:02

Logan Sullivan

You are one giant piece of shit.

You hate Holla Forums and play right into the hands of liberals.

October 30, 2016 - 22:03

Caleb Reyes

0.01 dollars have been added to your account. - Paid for by Hillary Clinton

October 30, 2016 - 22:04

Evan Gray

t. CTR

October 30, 2016 - 22:04

Bentley Johnson

Holla Forums here, I told you S█████ was a faker the moment he was cucked by the two niggers.

October 30, 2016 - 22:05

Alexander Russell

Leave this board, retard.

October 30, 2016 - 22:47

Grayson Rivera

;~; Sorry guys

But hey, it didn't take long for me to shift into calling him a retard.

October 30, 2016 - 22:49

Nolan Collins

I'm pretty sure he's joking a bit. Grow a thicker skin.

You mean when he stood back & let them make a fool of themselves? When if he'd fought back the liberal media & BLM would've crucified him? He made the right choice. You don't engage with retards.

Security should've thrown them off the stage, though, once it was clear they had no point & were being ignorant.

October 30, 2016 - 22:51

Evan Walker

On the primary days Holla Forums was exclusively trying to discredit S█████, like if they wanted Clinton to win.
Then again Holla Forums is probably controlled by shills (didn't that oculus guy literally confess to that?)

October 30, 2016 - 23:01

Gavin Rivera

He backed down and let them fucking talk.

Just like now he backs down and shill for Clinton.

October 30, 2016 - 23:03

Gabriel Thompson

This. They were saying they thought Hillary was easier to beat than S█████, and they were right about that. However they underestimated the Clinton political machine. And they thought trump would run a good campaign against her.

All Trump had to do, his one job, was to keep his fucking mouth shut & not stir up unrelated controversy when Hillary was royally fucking up. He could've skated to the White house.

A small part of me sometimes wishes he would still beat her, just because of her disgusting acts & smug supporters. And the fact she's ratcheting up animosity with Russia & using such insane fear mongering.

Who knows what will happen. As I said, we're fucked, either way. I can see a war being started under either of them.

October 30, 2016 - 23:06

Mason Jenkins

...

October 30, 2016 - 23:07

Isaiah Parker

How?

He now has the half the US rooting for him while S█████ defending Clinton.

Trump was crucified by the liberal media the whole time and he came out on top.

October 30, 2016 - 23:08

John Adams

There were more anti-Hill memes than anti-Sanders meme, sorry.

You are simply making S█████ bigger than himself.

October 30, 2016 - 23:08

Michael Reyes

Sanders does not have to go out and fucking shill for her.

But he fucking did, you know?

October 30, 2016 - 23:09

Christopher Roberts

Don't forget wikileaks showed that the Clinton machine amplified Trump through liberal media, giving him nonstop coverage because they knew he'd be easier to defeat.

Not correct, at all. S█████ was the main focus. We were all here to witness it.

Yeah, we know. And it sucks. We're more pissed about that than anyone. No one here is defending that move.

October 30, 2016 - 23:34

Tyler Hughes

And? The same could have happened to S█████ if he stood the fucking up in his game.

Instead he toed partyline to the end.

The anti-Hill memes out fucking number the anti-Sanders memes, heck, remember the "CUT THE BS" campaign where Holla Forums figured out it's the Hill machine behind the campaign, and not S█████?

October 30, 2016 - 23:36

Carson Clark

And it wasn't just Trump's doing. If the media hadn't elevated him so & gave him so much free publicity, we'd have Cruz or Carson running against Clinton.

There was literally a "Sanders is a cuck/free gib me dats/socialist traitor" thread, daily.

October 30, 2016 - 23:40

Brody Brooks

The point remains that if S█████ has remained bombastic and anti-Clinton as Trump, he would have gained publicity.
For every thread we have two SJW Hillshill, fuckh8 threads.

And proof? I really doubt you can prove that.

October 30, 2016 - 23:45

Jason Jackson

He was thoroughly anti-Clinton. So much so, that many democrats left the party & now realize how fucked she is. Like I said, here

Sanders could've gone a lot harder on her, though. But he ran an actually clean campaign, and it's why to this day he still blows Clinton & Trump out of the water in favorables. One major reason Clinton's favorables are so low, is that she unfairly attacked a popular candidate as S█████. That's campaigning 101, and it's still hurting her, now.

Sure bud. Not at the time, though.

Like I said, tard, we were all here & saw it. Clinton wasn't as pressing an issue for you, then. It was all about beating/discrediting S█████ first so you could move onto Clinton.

October 30, 2016 - 23:50

Chase Williams

You guys are in fucking denial at this point. Even when they were running, S█████ did not push many issues like Benghazi or even the emails, remember the part when he said "the american public does not care about the emails?", he was a fucking idiot.

The majority of B████ supporters now vote Clinton against Trump just as he encourages them.

But it was, anti-Sanders memes were not as much Clinton.
As I said, where are the proof?

I was Holla Forums daily this election and we laugh at how S█████ ran a very soft campaign against her.

October 30, 2016 - 23:56

James King

Because the public at large didn't see it as an issue. It was before the shit hit the fan & we got to read them. His main point when he said that though, was that we should be talking about the issues that really matter to Americans, at that time & now, which is jobs, the economy, wealth/income inequality, the TPP, etc.

So you're admitting Trump doesn't have it in the bag? :^) Seriously though, most of his supporters don't listen to him. And like I just fucking repeated again, no one here approves of that or supports that decision. Get out of here with your butthurt; you're taking it harder than we are at this point.

I'm not going to argue about the Clinton/Sanders Holla Forums thing, because you're not accepting it.

October 31, 2016 - 00:00

Jayden Fisher

Now, if you'd kindly stop shitting up this thread with your Holla Forums autism, that'd be great.

October 31, 2016 - 00:01

Ethan Ramirez

The Benghazi & emails are the fucking smoking guns which every fucking republican and anti-Clinton pursue and before the FBI declared her "innocent". I remember you guys cheering that it's possible Clinton being declared criminal and auto-Sanders win, but that did not happen and S█████ just fucking give up.

Holla Forums is not even S█████ central, leddit is. And the leddit S█████ people are voting Clinton. Even r/donald isn't that pathetic.

And no, I firmly think Trump has it in the bag.

I'm saying Holla Forums does not help in defeating Clinton, fucking Holla Forums did.

October 31, 2016 - 00:05

Ryder Jackson

"Enough with the emails" was a blunder I admit. From a moral perspective, not a campaign perspective.

October 31, 2016 - 00:16

Hudson Cox

If you are against Clinton, you fucking smear her and do not stop, man.

Heck, I'm a Holla Forumsack and I'm surprised that everyone care about the emails now.

But I'm proud of that because we did not give up hopes.

October 31, 2016 - 00:20

Jonathan Evans

The emails even stated that S█████ was fucking them over hard and they even hated/plotted against him, also they revealed that his even own wife begged him not to give in.

It doesn't matter either way, because he was nothing but a tool, he also sprung a movement up of people who are anti-democrat which was fine too.

October 31, 2016 - 00:21

Gavin Young

The only thing I will admit S█████ did great is how his campaign got rigged by Hillshills, which provides fucking ammunition for Trump.

That's about all.

October 31, 2016 - 00:24

Ethan Clark

This email shit is a purely political thing done by Trump himself.

You guys are all retards.

October 31, 2016 - 00:25

Gabriel Barnes

If the 1st-world isn't willing to play along with neoliberalism, the game is over by definition. All China could do by itself is attempt to plunder the even economically weaker, even less industrially developed bottom of the 3rd-world, for profit. But the amount of arbitrage generated by that would be a pittance compared to the massive amounts of money generated by pumping 1st-world cash in (and right back out) the inhumane rickety channels of the 3rd-world.

If the disparity between economic partners were shrunken, most of the evil done by free trade today would vanish, strengthening the incentives for genuine global development.

Nigger, do you realize just how far ahead of everyone else the 1st-world is in military terms?
globalfirepower.com/defense-spending-budget.asp

That means most European countries could still singlehandedly dominate an entire region, the bigger ones could go toe-to-toe with Russia, and the entire EU dwarfs China. On the other hand, most of the countries China is interested in pushing around have zero military power of significance beyond their immediate neighbors.

And don't fuss over PPP, since modern militaries don't just offshore manufacturing for matériel now, but have gone back to the Age of Empires practice of bolstering their ranks with cheap mercs from places like South America, Southeast Asia, and Africa.

October 31, 2016 - 00:26

John Lopez

The email shit were as old as 2012, before Trump runs even.

October 31, 2016 - 00:26

Cameron Campbell

lol all the defense budget shit do not mean shit.

The western Euro countries, Britain and England included, could not beat Russia and China in a fight.

heck, the US can't.

October 31, 2016 - 00:28

Carter Watson

Syria and Iraq is much better, the reason why republicans use Benghazi is because most of them agreed to all of the other awful shit she was for.

October 31, 2016 - 00:29

Eli Lopez

Who gives a shit.

All politicians are corrupt. Probably even B████ or Jill Stein.

Vote for Hillary to keep Hitler 2.0 out of power. I don't care what your LA'RPing vloggers have to say, they're morons.

October 31, 2016 - 00:30

Luis Reed

What the fuck?

October 31, 2016 - 00:31

James Price

Benghazi is a full on smoking gun.

And the republican congress was against Syria invasion actually.

October 31, 2016 - 00:32

Anthony Richardson

No evidence for this. Not even in the emails. It's an Alex Jones tier conspiracy theory.

October 31, 2016 - 00:35

Jacob Adams

Russia while strong is a paper tiger compared to what it was at the height of the USSR militarily.

China is behind technologically in quite a few areas.

If war were to happen tomorrow between Euro/US v Russia and SK/JPN/US/Whoever else v China and it magically stayed conventional then the US backed forces would win.

October 31, 2016 - 00:36

Jace Murphy

It would never magically turn into a conventional warfare, even if the US wins the battle, they would lose the war due to occupation.

This will bankrupt and destroy the US.

October 31, 2016 - 00:38

Levi Moore

Congress did not vote and the biggest voting block was undecided, also there is no pressure to saying yes when you don't have a president in office.

October 31, 2016 - 00:50

Carter Thomas

Fucking autism.

October 31, 2016 - 00:54

Robert Davis

mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/628231488794923008?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

October 31, 2016 - 00:55

Jayden Murphy

For real though Holla Forums still likes to shit themselves over that incident when it was really the smartest thing he could've done. He didn't want to alienate the sane parts of BLM, he didn't want to throw a tantrum (or anything that the newspapers could equate to a tantrum), and when they ventured upon insult he vowed revenge took the stage back.

Most likely because he needed a warrant. I don't know why Dems are acting like his actions are so outrageous, he can't ask for a warrant any other way. Sure he could've waited but they had already had the e-mails for weeks when he came to know about them.

October 31, 2016 - 00:58

Cooper Ross

Benghazi was what uncovered the emails, so I'm glad the republicans went after her for that.

If the FBI hadn't covered it up for her & been an Obama admin, she would've been found guilty. Everyone knows she's guilty, though, they just dropped the ball because she's Clinton & has political capital. Which is completely fucked up; we have a two-tier justice system in this country, and that case highlighted that, very well.

Dude, most of the reddit users are just CTR. Actual S█████ or Trump supporters abandoned r/politics & major political boards because the shilling became unbearable, and mods allow it to happen which is fucked up.

Don't make that assumption. I'm still battling Clinton supporters/CTR almost daily, no matter how futile(since they never acknowledge sh'es wrong, but for other actual voters to be informed about her corruption.

Neither did we. A lot of /lefty/s help with the wikileaks threads on Holla Forums, too. And I've been spreading them around to normies.

October 31, 2016 - 00:59

Ian Johnson

lmao

October 31, 2016 - 01:01

Kevin Thomas

Quick question for any Holla Forumslacks lurking the thread, since their board is the likeliest target: Memes aside, is it actually confirmed or plausible that Holla Forums has shills? I don't mean trolls and indoctrinated bitches from other venues, but actual professional CTR astroturfers.

October 31, 2016 - 01:06

John Walker

This far in and you goddamn niggers are cucked.

You realize BLM is funded by Soros right?

BLM votes for Clinton.

October 31, 2016 - 01:07

Benjamin Wood

use your fucking head.

October 31, 2016 - 01:07

Caleb Lopez

CTR shills 4chan and creates those retarded looking Hillary pepe.

What do you fucking think?

They exist and it's a job for them.

The JIDF, ADL, SRS, SA goons, they all exist, it's not a conspiracy.

October 31, 2016 - 01:08

Jack Gutierrez

You're deviating from the new script. Correct it or you'll have to go back into the cage

>This email shit is a purely political thing done by Trump himself the Russians.

FTFY

October 31, 2016 - 01:09

Gavin Carter

The actual leddit S█████ supporters outnumber Holla Forums and they actually gave S█████ millions of USD in donation, unlike Holla Forums.

If anything, they are just fucking retarded and hopelessly naive.

October 31, 2016 - 01:09

Gavin Williams

Of course. I've seen one or two get banned here, too. And rightfully so. Anyone painting Hillary in a genuinely good light on either political board here is definitely CTR, or just someone trolling. Usually it's not hard to tell those apart, though.

October 31, 2016 - 01:10

Colton Reyes

I'm mixed on Benghazi because it just pisses me off that HRC can turn a prosperous African country into total chaos, assassinate its leader and create crises across the region that will leave scars for decades or longer, and all of her culpability for this hangs on three dead Americans.

October 31, 2016 - 01:12

Elijah Lopez

BLM isn't a hivemind, many hate the DNC because they have been ignored, not to say that it isn't shit still though.

October 31, 2016 - 01:14

Robert Nguyen

That was while he was still in. I'm talking more about now. Now it's completely overrun. And CTR is a main reason why r/SandersforPresident went under. Too much concern trolling, actual shilling for Hillary, trolling, etc.

Go to r/politics & look at the comment sections. You'll want to blow your brains out with the stupidity & delusion. It's CTR ground, now. They also downvote anything negative about Hillary that they can stop from reaching the front page. Now only major negative news about Hillary sometimes breaks through. And even that's rare now.

Before S█████ supporters gave up, it genuinely was an anti-Clinton.

Also, now they ban you for mentioning CTR or calling someone a shill. Mods are in on this as well. CTR has infiltrated them, a while ago.

October 31, 2016 - 01:15

Matthew Sullivan

BLM is a centralized group with a direct of sponsors telling them what to do.

And they all support Clinton.

The nigger who supported S█████? He wasn't BLM.

October 31, 2016 - 01:16

Adam Taylor

Benghazi was still horrible, but there is better stuff to attack Hillary on.

October 31, 2016 - 01:16

Eli Rivera

leddit has actual usernames so you can actual count who left or not.

I seriously the majority of people who voted for S█████ just turn tail and run, in fact, I bet they went on to vote for Clinton.

October 31, 2016 - 01:17

Wyatt Evans

was for

October 31, 2016 - 01:17

Anthony Rogers

Benghazi was a smoking gun because it directly ties to her.

Everything else, you can blame Obama.

October 31, 2016 - 01:17

Gabriel Smith

I'm not a leftist, just visiting, but I was wondering how much of Holla Forums is going to vote for Trump/vote against Clinton?

October 31, 2016 - 01:18

Andrew Brown

I bet you are wrong about this. Some did, but many still hate her. She burned any bridges by giving us the middle finger every step of the way & continuing to be her warhawk, corporatist, porky, TPP & pro-fracking pushing self.

October 31, 2016 - 01:19

Jaxon Smith

If you really hated the political establishment you'd vote for Clinton.

October 31, 2016 - 01:20

Charles Peterson

Small amount for Jill, even less for Trump maybe, and most won't vote at all I think.

October 31, 2016 - 01:20

James Davis

the vast majority of Americans in Holla Forums will either not vote because bourgeois democracy is shit or vote for green party.

October 31, 2016 - 01:21

Elijah Diaz

I don't care enough about bernout to do a check list, but since it's fucking leddit, I think they wouldn't vote for Trump.

r/donald is a Holla Forums colony.

October 31, 2016 - 01:22

Noah Anderson

r/politics is no longer readable.
Every day the entire front page has anti trump stuff (combination op-ed, real news, fake "analysis" news, regular fake news, and three copies of each with slightly different headlines) for months. I would estimate of all the headlines on that sub 95% are some trump thing. Really. 20:1. Every day, for months on end.

It took them a long ass time to get the recent email news to break and pretty much all of the rest of reddit is struggling to talk about in it that suffocating place

October 31, 2016 - 01:22

Isaiah Brooks

How many are you guys actually?

Stein is the least vote for and she actually wants Trump elected.

October 31, 2016 - 01:23

Kevin Ortiz

...

October 31, 2016 - 01:23

Jacob Reyes

Really makes me think.

October 31, 2016 - 01:24

Dylan Hughes

They wouldn't vote for trump but since the most popular CTR line since fucking forever is "former S█████ supporter here, I'm voting for Hillary because" the well is thoroughly poisoned. Nobody is certain what's true or false anymore.

October 31, 2016 - 01:25

Matthew White

Something isn't adding up about these numbers.

October 31, 2016 - 01:28

James Reed

None of these people actually know anything about politics. It's an LArping board. They think they're the reincarnation of Stalin

October 31, 2016 - 01:32

Samuel James

Not going to be voting personally but I think those voting for Jill Stein are trying to get the green party to grow enough in order to get funding. They are not expecting her to win but instead trying to play the long game.

October 31, 2016 - 01:33

Dominic Martin

Stein currently gets 2%.

October 31, 2016 - 01:34

Matthew Stewart

Only 3% more and green party gets public funding

October 31, 2016 - 01:39

Joshua Morris

Boy you guys are fags!

October 31, 2016 - 01:41

Chase Perez

She's already cracked 5% in polls several times, so it's highly plausible.

I read some articles from their site, during the primaries… It's the most disgusting openly pro-corporate filth imaginable. I honestly wonder at what point this happened to them, maybe too many years as a CIA/FBI honeypot?

October 31, 2016 - 01:48

Hunter Wilson

wsws.org/en/articles/2016/10/31/pers-o31.html

31 October 2016

October 31, 2016 - 01:51

Nathaniel Hall

Patrick Martin and Barry Grey

October 31, 2016 - 01:51

Logan Torres

You mean the one that endorsed Clinton?

October 31, 2016 - 02:01

Lucas Thomas

Didn't read lol

October 31, 2016 - 02:03

Jose Sanders

...

October 31, 2016 - 02:06

Aiden Lopez

I can only support the FBI digging its own grave.

October 31, 2016 - 02:18

Jace Morris

archive.fo/Efp8r
Are they all only pretending or are they really so trapped in an echo chamber? Are they trying to deceive others or themselves? None of these make any sense.

October 31, 2016 - 05:03

Ethan Long

Lmao. False propaganda at its finest. I'm guessing actual David Duke supporters in Louisiana don't even know who the Hell Stein is.

October 31, 2016 - 05:09

Luke Powell

Also, it seems they're really ratcheting up these smears on Stein close to election day. The Daily Beast article, now this.

October 31, 2016 - 05:10

Caleb Hall

I imagine the CIA/FBI have had constant, open operations within the communist party since the 50s, at least.

October 31, 2016 - 05:13

Noah Bailey

Voting for Stein, here.

I wouldn't confuse her saying Trump would be less dangerous than Clinton with her actually wanting Trump. She's just pointing out the lesser evil, if you will.

October 31, 2016 - 05:16

Nolan King

What can possibly be done for these poor creatures.

October 31, 2016 - 05:28

Wyatt Phillips

wut??

October 31, 2016 - 05:28

Adam Howard

...

October 31, 2016 - 05:33

Kayden Torres

I think it's naive to think all online forums aren't controlled by shills, or at least inhabited. Reddit is easiest because they can just bot upvotes and downvotes to suppress or push content, but chans have to be taken over with memery, noise, and false flagging

October 31, 2016 - 05:37

Bentley Lewis

I notices this on 4pol and thought something similar. Apparently the Clinton camp sought to make Trump the Rep candidate, a 'pied piper' candidate he was referred to in the emails.

So yeah, I suspect there was CTR shilling against B████ on Holla Forums, mixed in with the crowd who HATE anything with socialism in the name. Remember 'THE SOURCE CODE'? Where Holla Forums found an attack site against Trump that linked to S█████ sites was actually made by Clinton's team? The idea being to attack Trump and have S█████ take the flak for it.

October 31, 2016 - 05:44

Brody Kelly

16+17+17+8+42+14=114%
Good job, CTR.

October 31, 2016 - 05:49

Lucas Young

The idea that %s should add up to EXACTLY 100 is a dark-age relic of hatred of women and racism.

October 31, 2016 - 05:53

Zachary Martin

Why would they do this unless they were panicking, has the Trump campaign even acknowledged the existence of Johnson or Stein?

October 31, 2016 - 06:03

Parker Reyes

The consistency of such math among liberals has been noted throughout the centuries

October 31, 2016 - 06:20

Christian Rivera

Fienstien is not retiring, Boxer is. Fienstien will likely remain in office until she dies.

October 31, 2016 - 07:52

Jack Green

Also, for what it's worth as much as I hate the GOP and anti-unionism they are smart to enact Right-To-Work laws. Strategically, it completely dismantles the power of downballot Democrats as most Unions suddenly get short on cash and patronage. Meanwhile more "rightwing" Unions (ie ones that are more open to working alongside freelancers) that sometimes support Republicans tend to survive.

As a result any state that goes RtW is likely to stay Republican for a long time. This is why Wisconsin and Michegan will flip this year and remain GOP for the rest of our lives (I don't like admitting that, but it's true). Missouri goes RtW next year as well, and Ohio probably will before 2018. This will give the GOP a huge advantage, as Texas and Florida are already RtW.

October 31, 2016 - 07:56

Kayden Allen

The black misleadership class in the do-nothing Congress has called TPP "a truly progressive platform"

Frankenstein polls lower than undecideds

Johnson is living proof why children should not use marijuana

At this point I'm looking at writing in Either Tom Hoefling or Mike Maturen

October 31, 2016 - 09:15

Ethan King

MELTDOWN!

politico.com/blogs/on-media/2016/10/cnn-severs-ties-with-donna-brazile-230534

thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/breaking-cnn-fires-dnc-chair-donna-brazile/

tvline.com/2016/10/31/donna-brazile-fired-cnn-debate-questions-hillary-clinton/

thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/289036-cnn-suspends-donna-brazile-as-she-takes-dnc-role

foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/31/new-email-shows-dnc-boss-giving-clinton-camp-debate-question-in-advance.html

October 31, 2016 - 11:34

Jonathan Collins

PROOF THAT THE PRIMARIES WERE RIGGED.

Yes, it's old news but what is new is that (a) CNN (the company, not their newsdesk) is saying this publicly while (b) they're firing her. It's all coming apart.

October 31, 2016 - 11:36

Blake Martin

...

October 31, 2016 - 12:15

Joshua Rogers

What the fuck? Why were they removed?

October 31, 2016 - 12:50

Austin Powell

An actual CTR shill.

October 31, 2016 - 13:03

Nathaniel Gray

Looks like that chicken Gary Johnson finally accepted a debate with Jill Stein.

gp.org/tavis_smiley_show

Going to be Monday night on PBS (Halloween lol) and another part Tuesday.

October 31, 2016 - 13:06

Oliver Gonzalez

Oh I guess this is on at midnight in my area. Really reaching out to the masses of people here.

October 31, 2016 - 13:08

Cooper Davis

I remember the mods promised back in May that if Hillary won they would keep S4P open so that they could make sure Hillary kept her campaign promises.

October 31, 2016 - 13:09

Dominic Moore

According to this video from David Cobb there's going to be some sort of debate online Wednesday too.

youtube.com/watch?v=aH4qzhsH2l4

October 31, 2016 - 13:15

Jacob Jenkins

It's a cyclical thread. All of the shitposting pushed it out.

Here it is again. archive.is/byWTh

October 31, 2016 - 13:24

Jack Sullivan

I was pleasantly surprised by that Politico comment section. Yes, I read comment sections. I actually like them, because I learn new info sometimes regarding the articles. Of course, I always cross check the info before believing it. It's very telling when a publication bans a comment section. They can get away with even more blatant misinformation, that way & not have anyone call them out for it.

October 31, 2016 - 14:36

Bentley Fisher

Also they are as a matter of fact horribly ineffective in temperate regions.

Even if you live in say Spain, their energy production fluctuates, often in an unpredictable fashion, so good luck using them for any serious applications.

October 31, 2016 - 14:40

James Mitchell

bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/2016/10/clinton_challenges_fbi_declaring_theres_no_case_here

October 31, 2016 - 15:09

Gavin Cooper

Possible, but unlikely.
Halfchan is their primary target since they are the ones that get the most media coverage.
Holla Forums is probably flying under the radar, but if you started poking the wasp nest they'd show up sooner or later.

October 31, 2016 - 15:27

Grayson Butler

Constant supply is largely irrelevant given grid storage (compressed air, hydrogen, pumped geothermal heat, etc), nuclear is already more expensive than wind/solar/tidal/geothermal with or without including matched storage, photovoltaic has highly positive lifetime ERoEI, photovoltaic is highly recyclable, and not all solar is photovoltaic.

October 31, 2016 - 15:47

Owen Rogers

it was mentioned by name in TIME. i think it's a safe bet that Holla Forums is a bright, cancerous green dot on their radar

October 31, 2016 - 15:48

Kevin Clark

Yeah, I already knew that cuckchan is lousy with shills of every imaginable flavor from every business and political interest on every major board, I vaguely recall it's even been confirmed by official documents. I was specifically wondering if they'd already followed their prey into h8chan yet.

October 31, 2016 - 15:53

Michael Robinson

What is Microturbine?

What does the gray diamond on some bars represent?

October 31, 2016 - 16:05

Ethan Allen

Microturbines are small combustion generators, usually burning natural gas.

The gray diamonds in the graph represent a number of different things:
jurisdiction (e.g., Southwest U.S.). Does not account for differences in heat coefficients, balance-of-system costs or other potential factors which may differ across solar technologies.

October 31, 2016 - 16:28

Christian James

Well Holla Forums, what do you think? Is this good enough?

They talk about it for about 15 more minutes but I can't cut that all up for one upload.

October 31, 2016 - 17:29

Oliver Morales

realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/10/31/carville_blows_up_on_msnbc_anchor_our_democracy_is_under_assault_by_comey_the_kgb_and_republicans.html

The democrats are going insane, someone should tell this guy the KGB disbanded nearly 25 years ago.

October 31, 2016 - 17:55

Gavin Reed

Last bit.

October 31, 2016 - 18:00

Juan Price

blackagendareport.com/malcomx-on-clinton-vs-trump
This is actually a good articles on Malcolm X, just note that the author is the co-chair of the GA Green party.

October 31, 2016 - 18:16

Ian Wright

Bruce Dixon is a pretty cool guy, I met him at the Houston convention. He and Howie Hawkins were trying to get the Greens to run themselves like a union like they've been arguing for a while. He's also a former Black Panther.

October 31, 2016 - 18:32

Jacob Nelson

And wasn't Clinton a big Goldwater supporter?

First as tragedy, then as farce.

October 31, 2016 - 18:38

Liam Fisher

what would this entail?

October 31, 2016 - 18:41

Samuel Martinez

Basically they want Greens to have dues so they can be better funded.

October 31, 2016 - 18:44

Nolan Rivera

It's almost embarrassing at this point.

Didn't Clinton mention something about revealing the secrets behind alien contact if she became President awhile ago? Maybe she wants to get revenge for them messing up her campaign too.

October 31, 2016 - 18:44

Robert Jones

tbh the green party is worthless, dues like that are better sent to an actual union or actual socialist party.

that said, I bet a lot of these parties and orgs could get pretty well-funded if they required all their members to contribute only $1 a month or something.

October 31, 2016 - 18:46

David Gutierrez

Greens are eco-socialists now. It's official:

October 31, 2016 - 19:00

Lucas Cox

Mite B Gud

October 31, 2016 - 19:29

Joshua Morris

Doesn't change the fact they're pretty worthless. Far more concerned with running races they know they can't win than activism.

October 31, 2016 - 19:30

Adrian Campbell

Are you high? The Greens engage in activism possibly more than any other party.

October 31, 2016 - 19:32

Thomas Gray

I'm aware, but they need to be much more like SAlt. SAlt is like 80% activism and 20% politicking. They're 20% activism and 80% politicking. I'd say the best balance looks more like 60-40.

October 31, 2016 - 19:34

Henry Collins

Well point taken. I'm working on that locally, at least.

October 31, 2016 - 19:35

Tyler Ward

FWIW I totally vote for them anyway, I live in a safe blue area so I'm not scared of Nadering anything.

October 31, 2016 - 19:37

Christopher Perez

The Democrats have revealed themselves to be totally corrupt stooges of capital, so I'm not scared of Nadering anything no matter where I live.

October 31, 2016 - 19:42

Aaron Davis

So who's going to win, and what will it mean for the revolution?

October 31, 2016 - 19:49

Noah Price

Why can't human nature just be human nature. Humans are naturally competitive and individualist. And we're also social and like being part of a collective. They're not mutually exclusive and they're not tied to government-economic systems. Reminds me of a theory about why pokemon is so popular with kids: liking pokemon allows them to be included but the fact there are so many allows them to pick out favorites and exhibit individualism even while conforming.

October 31, 2016 - 20:03

Ethan Myers

twitter.com/TIME/status/793282675641638913

October 31, 2016 - 20:23

Noah Butler

...

October 31, 2016 - 20:34

Zachary Taylor

called it.

October 31, 2016 - 20:53

Carter Hall

...

October 31, 2016 - 20:55

Jason Roberts

Was that in Decatur tonight? I got an email from them, but I'm out of town. I was in Atlanta for Jill Stein's visit in June or July. It's sad how dead it seems there, it was a much fuller room for Jill Stein.

October 31, 2016 - 21:02

Adam Powell

No that's from Texas on Saturday.

October 31, 2016 - 21:13

Levi Nguyen

++good job

thanks doc!

October 31, 2016 - 21:27

Jeremiah Martinez

...

October 31, 2016 - 21:27

Camden Morris

meant for

October 31, 2016 - 21:30

Oliver Young

Tavis Smiley third party debate on now.

October 31, 2016 - 23:01

Jackson Robinson

Jill sure has a lot of makeup on tonight.

October 31, 2016 - 23:04

Levi Myers

Goldwater was a vote against Nixon. Old habits die hard.

November 1, 2016 - 00:04

Asher Cooper

Criticizing the Federal Reserve will soon become an attack on women because muh birf control

youtube.com/watch?v=MeASr3fTx5k

November 1, 2016 - 00:10

Connor Butler

Jill Stein admitted that she plays the stock market, and her husband still owns some Big Pharma stock.

November 1, 2016 - 00:12

Chase Turner

...

November 1, 2016 - 00:27

Hudson Peterson

These are truly end times, the memes are closing in.

November 1, 2016 - 00:39

Kevin Brown

The crude comments in the comment sections are the most interesting part because you see the ideology of the people at work. Of course in times like these ideology breaks down and all that remains are insults and denials.

November 1, 2016 - 00:59

Leo Jenkins

wsws.org/en/articles/2016/11/01/pers-n01.html

1 November 2016

November 1, 2016 - 01:32

Nathan Wright

Barry Grey

November 1, 2016 - 01:32

Lincoln Gomez

I see my suspicion was correct: Time, and possibly others, have been acquired by the Onion News Network.

But seriously, this is great and should be encouraged. MSM is destroying itself out of desperation. They have reached a point where any attempt to save the situation only produces the opposite effects. This is a clear example of a section of the system accelerating towards its own implosion. Only Hillary can cause this. #ImWithHilleration

I hope she loses for other reasons, but at this point both are destructive for the establishment, just in different ways.

November 1, 2016 - 01:35

Joshua Reyes

This is super hyperbolic. Until I see some porky blood or at least jailed this election just seems like bourgeoisie bickering. Not any real breakdown of their class.

Trump will be paid handsomely by porky if he takes office and will literally do exactly what Hillary would have.

The US proletariat is still sound asleep. There's little pockets of uprisings like the Green Party SEP and NoDAP but they are minuscule compared to the electorate at large

November 1, 2016 - 02:23

Nathaniel Roberts

yeah there is literally no hope for america.
their proletariates don't even realize they are proletariates let alone have any idea how to organize or form even a bourgeois union.

they can't even organize in a wal-mart lol.

this election doesn't even push them close to anything left of centre, the bourgeois can basically do anything it wants in america.

I guess the only hope is for 1) accelerationism 2) the implosion of the bourgeois class under its own antagonisms

might as well just get comfy at this point

November 1, 2016 - 02:28

James White

Fuck accelerationism. That's just shit talking from NEET fuck ups that will be the first to be gassed by RWDS if the shit really hits the fan.

I'm working out and plan on either escaping with my family or taking as many pol tards as I can to hell with me.

November 1, 2016 - 02:36

Ethan Cruz

sry what?
I'm not talking about some apocalypse in our lifetime that you have to literally escape somewhere with your family or go on some useless rampage lol.

November 1, 2016 - 02:47

Isaiah Hill

If you think there's actually a possibility of fascism in the times of radical center then their scare tactics are working on you. If it weren't for this phantom menace the system would probably be much more in trouble.

November 1, 2016 - 02:49

Parker Cox

Half the people in the US are poor. Trump is pretty explicitly fascist in his rhetoric and Neo Nazis have real and growing presence in places like Philadelphia.

Neoliberalism will be accelerated by either Trump or Hilary. You're a broke dick NEET if you can't see just by going outside the growing Facisism in the US

November 1, 2016 - 02:59

Matthew Wood

They're going to destroy what little social safety net there is in this country. You're going to be struggling to pay for nesscities like everyone else

November 1, 2016 - 03:02

Thomas King

It is, sad to say, precisely the opposite. The Onion was acquired by Clinton shills:
thefreethoughtproject.com/hillarys-top-donor-buys-onion-starts-publishing-propaganda-immediately/

November 1, 2016 - 03:03

Owen Hughes

WTF is a radical center. The US is neoliberal as fuck. The few welfare programs we have left like SS and Food Stamps are just hold overs from the New Deal and Johnsons Great Society. Those will be dismantled soon. I mean what is left that porky can take from workers now. I ask seriosly

November 1, 2016 - 03:05

Zachary Murphy

Fighting back isn't a self destructive rampage. I'm only going to fight if I have to, my sense of self preservation is more than fine.

But there's way more reactionaries and lumpen proles than me. Just playing the law of averages

November 1, 2016 - 03:11

David Cox

The Belarusian KGB still exist, mate.
LUKASHENKO CONTROLS EVERYTHING

November 1, 2016 - 03:28

Ethan Young

A vote for Hillary is a vote for nuclear Armageddon.

November 1, 2016 - 04:27

Adrian Nelson

I live in Philly, and this is bullshit.

Also, if there was some sort of race/class war in Philadelphia the neo-Nazis would get absolutely blown the fuck out, for obvious reasons.

November 1, 2016 - 04:43

David Carter

This is correct.

Even Putin's Big Tent party is based around radical centrist neoliberalism. Anyone that thinks that Russia and America are going to be in armed conflict soon, and that it's going to lead to nuclear war, is the fucking living definition of a useful idiot.

November 1, 2016 - 04:45

Sebastian Williams

There is a SEPTA strike in Philly going on this morning. All public transportation in the city has been shut down indefinitely except for Regional Rail. SEPTA workers do not get pensions, nor do they even get bathroom breaks, which partly is why they are striking. They also get fucking terrible healthcare benefits. Apparently the Clinton campaign is very concerned about this strike, as it may prevent people from getting to the polls in Philadelphia.

November 1, 2016 - 05:30

Juan Perez

"Radical centrism" is the ideology of pseudo-populism based on advertising industry mass psychology that allows seemingly contradictory "compromise" policies like "new leftists" Bill Clinton scrapping welfare and Tony Blair privatizing rail transit, or "neoconservatives" Ronald Reagan granting amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants and Margarette Thatcher increasing government spending while simultaneously cutting taxes.

It's policies that produce short-term poll numbers among "undecided" swing independents, but are not actually popular with any ideological faction in the long-term.

Nuclear war? No (if it didn't happen before, it won't now), not from intentional first strikes. But direct border skirmishes and more intense indirect proxy wars maybe up to the same level as Vietnam/Afghanistan? Quite possibly.

November 1, 2016 - 05:40

John Morris

You mean there is a Union that exists for the actual members and not to fundraise for the DNC? This is a shock to the system.

November 1, 2016 - 06:14

Daniel Anderson

This is tangental to the conversation, but personally I find it hilarious when rural Republicans get extremely asshurt when neocons suggest Amtrak be ripped up or the USPS privatized. It's the only hope I have left for America.

November 1, 2016 - 06:26

Blake Jenkins

If you're genuinely spouting CTR bullshit or democratic party talking points, without knowing it, you should seriously kill yourself.

If you're new, you need to lurk more before offering your terrible, terrible thoughts.

November 1, 2016 - 06:37

Xavier Mitchell

wow

November 1, 2016 - 06:43

Ethan Parker

Speaking as somebody who registered Green back in 2000 when I turned 18, voted for Nader with hopes of supposed "party building", clinging to those beliefs even after the failure to garner 5%, and saw the massive lack of downballot challenges against even the safest Democratic Party strongholds year after year, I don't think that's all CTR line.

The Green party, in fact all American 3rd parties, are far too fixated on big contests they can't win, with single-digit seats at best out of the thousands of available state-level positions, and double-digit seats out of tens of thousands of available local positions.

November 1, 2016 - 06:50

Anthony Hall

They should say, the greens need to work harder, then. Not that they're worthless. The greens have especially shone this election. The younger electorate is much more informed, and have an aversion to the two major parties. Seeing how well S█████ did, as an independent, even though he ran on the dem ticket(for media exposure), should give a lot of hope to the greens/third parties.

As far as the media goes, the internet helped get S█████' message out & covered, finally. The media blackout isn't as nearly as powerful or a death sentence, the way it was when Nader ran.

Sure, the greens could use a better local groundgame. But they're more active than the dems, for one, because they're not only active at election time.

We need to spread the message more, instead of saying it's "worthless". The more you talk a defeatist game to others, the more damage you do.

And who are you going to vote for otherwise? The corporatist parties who work against you? The greens are the best choice. I don't know why polling is such shit on the greens, I honestly suspect funny business. The majority of Americans aren't registered with the major parties, so something doesn't add up.

November 1, 2016 - 08:05

Nathaniel Robinson

I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt. Either an idiot who blew over from leddit or genuine CTR. How else could someone spout such nonsense on this board?

November 1, 2016 - 08:06

Mason Clark

wow
tbh I didn't know that HONY was so woke

November 1, 2016 - 08:19

John Robinson

wasn't something related to benghazi supposed to drop about now on 4chan?

November 1, 2016 - 08:20

Noah Powell

...

November 1, 2016 - 08:29

Oliver Miller

I knew it, Hillary is a trap!

November 1, 2016 - 08:33

Aiden Jones

Meanwhile team Clinton thinks Russia is trying to rig the election with cyber attacks.
Also apparently NSA spying today isn't paranoid or dangerous.

November 1, 2016 - 08:37

Jaxon Diaz

For those who care, this is a conversation between me and my mom on Hilary:

Bear in mind, she has been a registered Democrat for her entire life and is even part of the Chicago machine (as a retired CTA driver). I find it absolutely hilarious she is defending fucking Nixon, though I shouldn't be surprised as she is part of the great "silent majority" of middle class suburbanites both him and Hilary rely on.

November 1, 2016 - 09:05

Ryder Brooks

the Social Safety net is what keeps capitalism afloat. I think even more than reification, ideology (the super structure). It still always come back to the economic base (safety net)

accelerationism would push for the bottom to fall out of the standard of living for the revolution to become possible aka the economic relations will be right for revolution.

of course the bourgeoisie are usually too smart to let this happen.

you better unionize the army in the next 50 years if you really think things are going to get that bad though, you're going to want them on your side worker, they too are proletariate

November 1, 2016 - 09:08

James Nelson

Which will amount to precisely jack and shit unless they start making downballot gains. Remember that even the presidential bid is primarily a ploy to get greater funding for such efforts.

He did it because actually winning the race, or even just presenting the credible THREAT of winning the race, is 1000% impossible under FPtP except via primary. FPtP at the level of the presidential race is a two-party system, period.

Do you understand what you're talking about? What practical goals do you think politically disengaged people will accomplish? The purpose of voting isn't to virtue signal or attention whore, it's to make concrete choices about future government policy. That means voting for a candidate (and/or ballot measure) that can win the race they're in.

It's not a perfect system, it's not even anywhere close to as good a system as it should be after 240 years, but it's the system through which our civilization makes decisions. Unless you're talking about something like armed insurrection, or constructing syndicalist networks inside the capitalist economy (which are more the responsibility of proper NGOs rather than political parties like the Greens IMHO) you're talking about practical inaction.

Pull your head out of the clouds, the ground, or your ass, and face reality.

November 1, 2016 - 09:18

John Hughes

He's literally telling everyone to vote for Clinton

November 1, 2016 - 09:21

Oliver Cooper

...

November 1, 2016 - 09:24

Levi Parker

Google Is Not What It Seems
by Julian Assange

In this extract from his new book When Google Met Wikileaks, WikiLeaks' publisher Julian Assange describes the special relationship between Google, Hillary Clinton and the State Department – and what that means for the future of the internet.

wikileaks.org/google-is-not-what-it-seems/

November 1, 2016 - 09:25

Jackson Anderson

...

November 1, 2016 - 09:30

Josiah Miller

Well, then, that's a good thing for their ground & long term game, right?

If enough people vote for the greens, they could become a major party. With the way the dems & republicans are imploding atm, it seems this will happen in the future.

And with enough support or exposure, that's entirely possible for a third party candidate. You act as if that's never happened locally before. You have a much better chance locally of this happening, as well.

Go fuck yourself. Or keep voting for a major party, whichever you think will work better for change for workers.

November 1, 2016 - 09:46

Kevin Thomas

This is fucking insane. And holy shit, this picture is terrifying.

Hillary's technocratic dystopia is going to be a god damn nightmare.

November 1, 2016 - 10:01

Levi Wilson

The missing emails could be hiding underneath the Christmas tree.

sweetness-light.com/archive/gary-aldrich-on-the-clintons-christmas-tree

November 1, 2016 - 10:04

Jonathan Sullivan

Hillary plans to perform the first-lady's duties when she returns to the White House.

End the Bush-Clinton dynasty.

washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/05/19/hillary-clinton-says-bill-wont-be-picking-out-the-white-house-china-he-should/

November 1, 2016 - 10:13

Oliver Anderson

Can you tldr it?

November 1, 2016 - 10:14

Andrew Rodriguez

so should we even vote

November 1, 2016 - 10:15

Charles Russell

Right, if they clear 5%, but it's not something you want to bet the farm on.

Who? Where? What must be done is for the party to draw up lists of hard-left areas, insufficiently leftist Democratic politicians in them to target for election/primary challenges, and sufficiently leftist Democratic politicians to solicit for recruitment/alliance. Once the local balance of power had been tipped, victory could be locked in with a switch from FPtP to PR/IRV.

Much as with the B████crats, such lists have failed to materialize beyond unaffiliated faggots on leddit.

In significant numbers? It hasn't, at least since the postwar Dixiecrat/Republican realignment.

The 2000 run was a collossal floppola in terms of results, maybe the [REDACTED]/Trump phenomenon alone will change things, but without an organized and pragmatic effort at contests we can really win, I don't see any way for that to happen.

November 1, 2016 - 10:16

Blake Thomas

Google and Hillary's State Dept. had a very close relationship. You should read it, it's fascinating and really scary.

November 1, 2016 - 10:19

David Lopez

try to give green party 5% so they get election funding

November 1, 2016 - 10:24

Jack Russell

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7th_Floor_Group

November 1, 2016 - 10:36

Jonathan Phillips

how likely is that? any other anons wanna share their takes on who they're voting for, or if they're not voting?

also, this is directed towards the anarchists but anyone can comment, is the idea of voting as an act of violence accurate? what's everyone's thoughts on this idea?
stemming from this:
forejustice.org/vote/voting_is_an_act_of_violence.htm

November 1, 2016 - 10:38

Justin Sanders

The missing emails might be hiding underneath the Christmas tree.

sweetness-light.com/archive/gary-aldrich-on-the-clintons-christmas-tree

November 1, 2016 - 10:43

Carter Edwards

...

November 1, 2016 - 10:50

Zachary Perry

...

November 1, 2016 - 10:52

Carson Morales

wanna give thoughts on the idea of voting as an act of violence mentioned here?

November 1, 2016 - 10:53

Jordan Bailey

Anything the state can do, you can do too: Citizen's arrest, self defense, justifiable homicide, etc. The vote, and the state it empowers, is merely an abstraction to benefit from economies of scale.

November 1, 2016 - 10:57

Blake Martin

and if I disagree with the state, does my refusal to vote de-legitimatize, even if it's of a microscopic and ultimately inconsequential level, the violence and other acts of the state?

November 1, 2016 - 11:01

Tyler Moore

Any truth to this? I want to believe.

November 1, 2016 - 11:01

Anthony Gray

Hillary: "Why aren't I fifty-points ahead??!"

Reuploaded:
youtube.com/watch?v=aYlDUSEadpY
vine.co/v/5vap2euEBjX

November 1, 2016 - 11:02

Isaac Garcia

Does anyone know if 538's model takes early voting into account? Trump seems to be recovering strongly but he had such a shit October that I think mail-ins might have done for him already.

November 1, 2016 - 11:08

Lucas Torres

No, you can't disagree with the state in a democracy (or in any system short of a colonial possession, practically speaking), only with the majority of your fellows. It merely denotes your willfully abandoning the task of turning popular opinion to your side, and your utter submission to theirs.

November 1, 2016 - 11:09

Isaac Miller

t. Representative Democracy supporter.

November 1, 2016 - 11:10

Camden Hernandez

It doesn't matter whether or not I support it, because it exists. If we lived under a feudal system, and fighting warlords was the system under which our destiny was decided, participation would be justified exactly the same.

And let me expand on that from another angle: Even while you refuse to vote, you still pay taxes, and contribute to the power of the nation over which the state is supported, refusing to vote in a democracy simply means abandoning the one direct line of influence you have within it, without actually weakening it in any way. Symbolic activism is oxymoronic.

November 1, 2016 - 11:16

Jace Gutierrez

Okay.

November 1, 2016 - 11:21

Kevin Kelly

Here's the book:
libgen.io/search.php?req=google wikileaks

Silicon Valley is both an essential part of an American empire and an empire of its own, literally.

>The hidden hand of the market will never work without a hidden fist. McDonald’s cannot flourish without McDonnell Douglas, the designer of the F-15. And the hidden fist that keeps the world safe for Silicon Valley’s technologies to flourish is called the US Army, Air Force, Navy and Marine Corps.
>What Lockheed Martin was to the twentieth century, technology and cyber-security companies will be to the twenty-first.

November 1, 2016 - 11:24

Brody Barnes

youtube.com/watch?v=ov5kvWSz5LM

November 1, 2016 - 11:25

Aiden Lopez

youtube.com/watch?v=12zVlaZyX3Q

Who is this crack pot?

November 1, 2016 - 11:30

Mason Harris

youtube.com/watch?v=8-kK97_7sdI

November 1, 2016 - 11:32

Carter Williams

It's an IRA. She's not exactly a yuppie.

November 1, 2016 - 11:34

Nathaniel Miller

If you think cooperating with people you lost an argument to makes you morally culpable for their deeds, you have the following options:

Simply refusing to vote doesn't accomplish anything.

November 1, 2016 - 11:35

Brandon Thomas

Wars are always unpopular. The last war approved by Congress was probably World War II. If the US government actually held a referrendum to end hostilities it would break the scales.

November 1, 2016 - 11:36

Henry Martinez

Read Marx you fucking tool.

November 1, 2016 - 11:37

Brody Gonzalez

Due to the way laws work throughout the 50 states, Presidential campaigns are absolutely essential to maintain ballot access for any party that seeks to exist beyond a regional level.

November 1, 2016 - 11:43

Wyatt Russell

He literally says right before your quote that that's always been their stance. There is no new "distancing" here.

November 1, 2016 - 11:43

Landon Ortiz

Email from Eric Schmidt:

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/37262#efmAqaAs9A3DBABBAPBDBBG1BNvBPQBQgBQiBZbBhmBq_

November 1, 2016 - 11:52

Chase Martin

Let the ad-hominems begin!

November 1, 2016 - 11:53

James Reyes

Relevant:

weeklystandard.com/what-trump-saw-and-cruz-did-not/article/2002126

tl;dr politicians crave data to build policy around but it doesn't always work. For as much tech companies hype their products, I don't think it will work for Hilary.

November 1, 2016 - 11:54

Bentley Perry

What does it mean?

November 1, 2016 - 12:02

Noah Lee

I'm very doubtful about that. We'll inevitably get more systems being hacked and exploited to the point where people will simply step back from 'net integration. For as much as porkies love 24/7 remote monitoring, it's not fun when they get hacked and it's not fun when someone shuts off their machines. The same is true for individual people, people will get burned by posting all their stuff to Facebook and Google then change how they use their services. Online marketing will peak and then collapse (I reckon it already is, as neither advertisers nor websites are seeing profit) as subscription-based services take dominance again.

Also, for as aggressive SV wants to be it's only because they have realized they are being left behind. Silicon Valley is Hollywood, not Palmdale (where USAF Plant 42 is). Northern Virginia is where the fist resides, within offices alongside the new silver line from the airport between Route 267 and Interstate 95. Arlington, Fairfax, Alexandria and the Crystal City not Cupertino and Palo Alto.

November 1, 2016 - 12:04

Ayden Hernandez

Makes 4 1/2 dozen cookies

Prep 15 minutes

Bake at 350° for 12 minutes

1 1/2 cups unsifted all-purpose flour
1 tsp salt
1 tsp baking soda
1 cup solid vegetable shortening
1 cup firmly packed light brown sugar
1/2 cup granulated sugar
1 tsp vanilla extract
2 eggs
2 cups old-fashioned rolled oats
1 pkg (12 oz) semisweet chocolate chips

• Heat oven to 350°. Grease 2 large baking sheets.
• Combine flour, salt and baking soda in a medium bowl.
• Beat together shortening, sugars and vanilla in a large bowl until creamy. Add eggs, beating until light and fluffy. Gradually beat in flour mixture and rolled oats. Stir in chocolate chips.
• Drop batter by well-rounded teaspoons onto greased baking sheets. Bake 10 to 12 minutes or until golden. Cool cookies on sheets on a wire rack for 2 minutes. Remove cookies to wire rack to cool completely.

npr.org/2016/08/18/490478924/cooked-up-after-a-hillary-clinton-gaffe-the-first-spouse-cookie-battle-is-back

November 1, 2016 - 12:05

Dylan Lopez

Obama probably called Comey into a private meeting, and Comey probably said that no matter what Hilary is not going to survive twelve months in office. The damage control begins now regardless if she wins or not. Obama doesn't want to be associated with her.

November 1, 2016 - 12:05

Lucas Bell

We're comparing giants like Google to Cruz' team. Facebook can already manipulate emotions and behavior of selected individuals.
…but that's how mass media and mass social media has always worked…
archive.fo/riy8w

November 1, 2016 - 12:06

Andrew Ramirez

Big data certainly is what helped Hillary target potential S█████ voters for purging off the voter rolls during the Democratic primary.

November 1, 2016 - 12:07

Nathaniel Edwards

Should have added that now they are manipulating us on an individual level instead of just treating us like a mass. So they know what's specific about you and use that to "nudge" you in the direction they want. This is all done automatically through algorithms of course.

November 1, 2016 - 12:11

Zachary Ross

It don't matter too much, even a censored Facebook is not nearly as vanilla as the CBS Evening News. I'm not defending it, but remember that all these social media operations are intrinsically fad-driven and all melt away as newer services pop up. So far, FB has exhausted much of it's money buying up new startups and doing video, but one day it will find someone unwilling to sell (much like FB itself rejected buyout offers early on). Google's dominance is already starting to break down, especially as ad-driven website models meltdown due to deflation.

Also, Cruz's team itself is a customer of these services. His team itself is just a means of feeding data to Cruz and checks to marketing consultants. Which, ultimately, is what these companies strive to be (and are completely disposable as a result).

See my point here , the real danger comes from people who have access to the Internet itself. The government doesn't bother with low level shit, those are things elected politicians are forced to do so they can remain in office. Bureaucrats go right for what matters: the hard lines.

November 1, 2016 - 12:15

Easton Moore

zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-01/fbi-unexpectedly-releases-documents-related-2001-probe-clinton-foundation-marc-rich-

What the fuck is going on

November 1, 2016 - 12:17

John Evans

Read the article I posted. Microtargeting works great in some scenarios, specifically instances where the amount of voters is small and constant (like Iowa) but is not good in any other circumstance (ie anything mass market). As the sample size grows, the model breaks down as it is unable to turn everybody in the same direction especially as people are allowed to communicate with each other (often much quicker than the system can respond).

It's great if you want to sell old ladies premium detergent, but it's not so great if you're trying to convince people to vote a certain way. Which is the fundamental problem of Silicon Valley: their business models are built to sell coupons, not candidates.

November 1, 2016 - 12:18

Adrian Lee

That is major fuck you to Holder and the Justice Department. Comey truly gives no fucks.

November 1, 2016 - 12:29

Gabriel Hernandez

He's in charge now. Even if Hilary wins, she can't sack him or he will pull the same stunt Mark Felt did during Watergate. He has all the cards and all the blackmail he needs to do whatever he wants. Most likely, this is all for show. Next week he'll announce "Hilary is free of all charges etc" the day before the election. One final push.

November 1, 2016 - 12:33

Austin Fisher

I want to die.

come on

November 1, 2016 - 12:38

Caleb Watson

WHELP

November 1, 2016 - 12:41

Parker Baker

This can't be serious. Can it?

November 1, 2016 - 12:42

Joseph Rodriguez

This is weird even with the new email/fbi stuff.

Wasn't she up by 12+ points just a little while ago?

November 1, 2016 - 12:44

Evan Fisher

It is real. Comey might have just fucked Hilary out of the Presidency. But there is still seven days to go and he could clear her name within that time causing her to bump back up.

That said, the real takeaway is if Trump is able to get to 52-60% by next Monday, which would be a clear majority.

November 1, 2016 - 12:48

Christopher Bailey

This is among those who are likely to vote on election day.
Still they were neck and neck before the email announcement.

November 1, 2016 - 12:53

Adrian Green

If Trump wins, I hope he at least wins by a big margin so that liberals will shut up already about third parties helping to elect Trump.

November 1, 2016 - 12:55

Jason Gutierrez

If I end up having called it I'm going to jizz in my pants

November 1, 2016 - 13:03

Cameron Smith

Here's Nate's prediction for comparison. I don't know what to think about it.
Wikileaks did say that Clinton is definitely going to win, that it has already been decided. I don't know whether they're just being edgy or seriously think this.

November 1, 2016 - 13:10

Isaiah Price

the thought of Trump pulling a win out of the bag has me hyped at the possibility of liberal mass suicide on a biblical level but I know it'd only be a huge damp squib in the long run. In an ideal world Clinton would be picked apart while in office and be properly exposed as the female GWB but i seriously doubt things will pan out that way.

November 1, 2016 - 13:12

Aaron Moore

538 and Nate already blew their credibility back in the summer.

November 1, 2016 - 13:13

Isaiah Barnes

I read a lot of the leaks and the CFR, Trilateral Commission, House of Saud, et al. are all firmly behind Hillary. If they want her elected, and they do, then it's going to happen.

November 1, 2016 - 13:13

Caleb Bailey

reddit.com/r/DNCleaks/comments/5aknip/cycurity_online_reputation_management_company/

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/26304

November 1, 2016 - 13:15

Aiden Hall

I didn't take this idiot seriously when he said Trump couldn't win the nomination and didn't concede until after the RNC. He then said he wouldn't make the same mistake again and right after started doing the whole "lol drumpf can't win XD" shit. He has been proven wrong numerous times the past year, from S█████'s Michigan win to Brexit to the aforementioned Trump kerfuffle. He can blow it out his ass.

November 1, 2016 - 13:22

Landon Martin

If he's wrong his career is over. At least we may have that to look forward to.

November 1, 2016 - 13:25

Logan Baker

Elections aren't real. Hillary has already been decided as the winner.

November 1, 2016 - 13:40

Nolan Williams

He got the GOP primaries wrong because he didn't trust the polls. He isn't repeating that mistake here.

Both the result of serious polling errors. He's only as good as the polls.

November 1, 2016 - 13:53

Dylan Williams

youtube.com/watch?v=Hzal6bF_P8Y

November 1, 2016 - 13:55

Elijah Scott

Are you jerking me off here?
He modifies the polls how he pleases without any justification or explanation.
Also if these polls didn't fuck up their samples then maybe we would all get a clearer look at the election. But no! Women make up 66% of the electorate apparently.
But to add onto this the Dems are down and the Reps are up in early voting. TRUMP IS WINNING FLORIDA WITH EARLY VOTING ALONE, I have family in the Dem establishment and they are freaking the hell out over the email shit. Harry Reid accused the head of the FBI of being a RUSSIAN AGENT. They are going off the rails. Depending on the weather on and after election day, I would suspect riots and political violence even if limited in scope.

November 1, 2016 - 14:11

Samuel Nguyen

WEWLAD
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A
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November 1, 2016 - 14:14

Justin Ward

He modifies the polls based on their bias compared to actual election results. For example, Qunnipiac polls tended to over estimate Trump's numbers in the primaries by a little bit. So generally if a Qunnipiac poll shows Trump up 2 he considers it Trump up 1.

As far as fucked up samples I agree with you but you shouldn't get caught up on that too much. Romney's team was convinced that all the polls were over sampling blacks and he would win fucking Wisconsin.

As far as Trump "winning Flordia on early voting alone" the only thing I can find on that is the Tamp Bay Times saying this:

So there are some bad signs for Shillary in Florida but she can actually afford to lose the state as long as she holds onto Virginia, Colorado and Pennsylvania. Trumps needs Florida or he has no path to victory.

November 1, 2016 - 14:23

Ryan Carter

Give me some proof. I already tried investigating that Michelle one, but couldn't find anything. Granted, I'm completely retarded when it comes to social media. I can't find any twitter search engine or archive, if this even exists.

November 1, 2016 - 14:26

Evan Russell

I'm not the biggest fan of shillver either but he very successfully predicted the 2008 and 2012 elections (getting 50/50 and 49/50 states right respectively).

Mitt Romney won early voting in FL with a much bigger margin than Chump is now but Obama still took FL on the 8th. Early voting is looking a lot better for Dems this year than it did in 2012.

November 1, 2016 - 14:26

Isaiah Edwards

BREAKING

November 1, 2016 - 14:29

Brandon Cooper

Nate silver is a fucking hack.
Wow, he predicted the chanegy hopey black man was going to win.
If trump wins im going to take the most pleasure in silver losing his career

November 1, 2016 - 14:31

Noah Rivera

His whole job is to weigh up polling data to account for inconsistencies, and he did it almost perfectly in 2008 and 2012.

He does explain.

This is how Holla Forums deluded itself into thinking Romney would win.

Not in Nevada
fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-early-vote-in-nevada-suggests-clinton-might-beat-her-polls-there/

November 1, 2016 - 14:32

John Hall

He's now claiming the ABC poll is bad even though three months ago he was praising it. Don't believe him, his career will be over next week.

November 1, 2016 - 14:33

Easton Johnson

or more exactly he "corrects" them

November 1, 2016 - 14:35

Cameron Sanders

and Holla Forums is stupid, see

2016 is not 2012 or 2008. We have not had an election with this much energy since 1980.

November 1, 2016 - 14:36

Kevin Gray

Shhh. Stop bringing reality into the conversation when dealing with the Trumpcucks.

#1. You're wasting your time as they've gone full blown feels > reals at this point and even put /SRS/ to shame.

#2. When the inevitable happens and Hillary is announced as the winner it will make the salt all the more delicious.

Just let them wallow in their own ignorance. In about a week's time all hell is going to break loose and Holla Forums is going to completely disintegrate and the resulting butthurt is going to be magnificent. Just be sure to have all your smug reaction images ready so you can shitpost Holla Forums into oblivion.

November 1, 2016 - 14:38

Jayden Jenkins

I haven't finished it yet, but the documentary "Hypernormalisation" talks about this. Instead of actually doing something in the 70s, these "activists" just sat back, watched the city of NY go to shit, and started making art to make a statement. Too bad it's only making a statement, and not action, that would actually matter.

November 1, 2016 - 14:40

Logan Reed

One week out, bost bredictions lads.

November 1, 2016 - 14:41

Adam Bennett

Trump absolutely SHOULD win this election given the historical context, but he's made it incredibly hard for himself by running a terrible campaign.

Nah. I mostly agree with you though.

November 1, 2016 - 14:45

Gabriel Turner

...

November 1, 2016 - 14:46

Robert Barnes

...

November 1, 2016 - 14:51

Leo Perry

Are you Holla Forums, anphlegm or Lamer Smith's speechwriter? Because they all make the same dogshit argument you keep making.

fix your trainwreck of a site Cuckmonkey

November 1, 2016 - 14:53

Anthony Peterson

1 WEEK BUCKOS

November 1, 2016 - 15:05

William Allen

Some interesting tidbits, just from scanning the documents.

November 1, 2016 - 15:05

Connor Carter

...

November 1, 2016 - 15:06

Jayden Turner

I read from likely voters, she was up by 12% & it dropped to nearly 1% after the Weiner scandal & Comey's announcement.

These Hillary fucks are forgetting that it was the Weiner story that broke this. It wasn't Comey's letter's doing; the details were already all over the news at the time.

November 1, 2016 - 15:09

Nathaniel Carter

There is some guy on youtube whose theory is the polls were fixed for shillary, but trump was really winning, and since we are getting near the end they will start to reflect reality so that the pollsters can save their asses.
So thats how you come from being down 12 percent to tied.
It was all just to demoralize people.
I mean, the media is in her pocket, the globalists, the billionaires, every machine in the establishments bag is against trump.
Is it that hard to believe they would fix polls

November 1, 2016 - 15:13

Mason Richardson

What are you a commie

November 1, 2016 - 15:18

Aiden Davis

You mean from being down 7 points to being down 3 points. This shift isn't as big as that one poll makes it look.

November 1, 2016 - 15:22

Jayden Williams

It's what they did to B████

November 1, 2016 - 15:22

Evan Barnes

I hate Hillary & those helping to manipulate/help her win. So much.

November 1, 2016 - 15:32

Nicholas Ortiz

Oh, I remember that. The poll analyzer, who's sole job is to look at polls, said not to trust them. That was hilarious.

November 1, 2016 - 15:33

Carter Howard

I urge you fucking faggots to do something about this.

We maybe opposite site of political view but nuclear bombs don't discriminate

FORBES
forbes.com/sites/dougbandow/2016/09/26/wannabe-global-dominatrix-hillary-clinton-never-met-a-war-she-didnt-want-other-americans-to-fight/
Forbes:
"Hillary Clinton Never Met A War She Didn't Want Other Americans To Fight"
"Clinton supported every one of the last seven U.S. military interventions abroad, plus two others we ended up fighting.”
"For instance, while First Lady she pushed for U.S. intervention in the Balkans—attacking the Bosnian Serbs and then Serbia. She was an enthusiastic war advocate, explaining: “I urged him [her husband] to bomb.” Alas, Bosnia remains badly divided while Kosovo has turned into a gangster state which, according to the New York Times, is “a font of Islamic extremism and a pipeline for jihadists.”

She apparently took the same position toward Iraq, backing bombing that became almost routine during her husband’s administration. He also turned a humanitarian mission in Somalia into nation-building on the cheap, threatened a military invasion of Haiti to enforce regime change, launched a lengthy occupation of the faux state of Bosnia, and expanded NATO toward Russia. None of them were in America’s interest or turned out well, but Hillary Clinton apparently only objected to the Haiti misadventure. She was seen by aides as the most influential of the administration’s many ivory tower warriors, always available to lobby Bill to do more bombing and killing abroad.

November 1, 2016 - 15:46

David Reyes

"But muh B████ is out" why should I care?

I will tell you why faggot. Because we are closing to nuclear war

November 1, 2016 - 15:48

Isaac Howard

There are not enough bits of data in the entire universe to store the data to represent an appropriate number of >'s in front of
He is literally the same as Paul the Octopus. Out of all the attempts in the world at predicting the outcome of a given contest, somebody was bound to get it exactly right by chance. That's what happened, except people were stupid enough to take Nate Silver seriously instead of regarding him as a joke/meme like Paul the Octopus.

November 1, 2016 - 15:49

Carter Butler

Source?

November 1, 2016 - 15:50

Joshua Russell

user, pls don't.

November 1, 2016 - 15:50

Charles Peterson

>thinking Holla Forums doesn't want nukes
hownew.ru

November 1, 2016 - 15:53

Chase Walker

I am genuinely scared. I really am. Not one to get scared easily (ever). But given the rhetoric against Russia, Soros being main backer to hrc and Russia banning Soros. A nuclear war is imminent. You maybe left i'm right, but for fucking once let's step together. Or we're all gonna die.

November 1, 2016 - 15:55

Eli King

Silver's poll aggregator is the only tool of its kind that still thinks Trump has a non-negligible chance of winning.

He's often been (unfairly) accused of overblowing uncertainty of elections (for clicks). Nobody gets vindicated more than Silver if Trump actually wins.

November 1, 2016 - 15:55

Thomas Sanchez

counterpunch.org/2016/02/26/hillary-goes-to-war/
archive.is/SbwPa
The moral reward seemed immense, especially in consideration of the low cost, since it entailed bombing a country with inadequate air defenses, with no great risk to our side.
It is worth noting that Hillary urged Bill to bomb the Serbs via telephone, while she was in North Africa, touring Egypt, Tunisia and Morocco. Her guide on that trip was her new assistant, Huma Abedin, the young daughter of Muslim scholars and her trusted expert on the Muslim world. Many secular Arab nationalists in North Africa sympathized with the Serbs, due to past good relations with Yugoslavia during the days of the Non-Aligned Movement. However, Hillary had become an apprentice in learning to appreciate the fundamentalist Muslim outlook, and the Muslims of Bosnia and Kosovo enjoyed widespread, even fanatical support, in the Islamic world at this point. Did Huma assure Hillary that Muslims everywhere would applaud the Clinton administration for bombing Serbs?

November 1, 2016 - 15:57

Levi Cruz

No! If I can't have fully automated luxury communism RIGHT NOW then I want nuclear war!

Nuke 'em, Hilldog!

November 1, 2016 - 15:59

Blake Flores

I mean sure, but it's not like we can do anything. I sure as shit won't vote Clinton, but my vote won't change shit. Even if Trump wins the popular vote, Hillary will just do what Bush did in 2000 and pull favors to fuck with the count. I don't know how anybody can delude themselves into believing otherwise after seeing what the DNC did during the primaries.

The ruling class sees the writing on the wall - the workers are borderline useless to them now, so they're going to try to prevent revolution by killing as many of us off in nuclear fire as possible.

November 1, 2016 - 16:00

Nathan Wood

Peter Thiel (guy who created Pay Pal) confirms what is already known to us
Clinton will risk Nuclear conflict if elected

youtu.be/nz7Oypq3MHQ

November 1, 2016 - 16:00

Julian Wright

They already have done it by undersampling potential Green voters.

November 1, 2016 - 16:02

Jackson Evans

posadism is the answer

November 1, 2016 - 16:04

Jonathan Price

Raise awareness and monitor elections. Vote for Trump. (never thought I'd shill that here but it's fucking cruicial).

There are some things you boys (we) can still do to prevent ww3.

I urge you to do it!

I'm not nazi, trump supporter, or even american.

I just want to live and have kids and let them have kids

November 1, 2016 - 16:05

Cooper Cook

This is not true at all. Silver has never been more accurate that straight polls and he's been wrong often lately. He's also tossed away his "data" facade for punditry and wonkism. He should be eating crow for his dramatic, months long tantrum w/r/t the Rublican primary

November 1, 2016 - 16:05

Nolan Young

This is an anti-natalist board, you dummy.

November 1, 2016 - 16:06

Joshua Sullivan

How many guys are credited with creating PayPal now?

November 1, 2016 - 16:06

Christopher Jenkins

He just wants to secure a future for his children, fellow leftist.

November 1, 2016 - 16:07

Carson Perez

Others also replied, but I'm the one you're responding to, btw.

I agree. Hillary is extremely dangerous, and her rhetoric against Russia, and the idiots who follow her, have genuinely scared me, as well.

Maybe it was CTR, but earlier on reddit(I know.. I was curious of their email coverage, since they're so biased/astroturfed), and there were people genuinely arguing with me, defending Hillary's '08 "obliterate Iran" comments & that we'll have to go to war with Russia if they invade or threaten another country. Like, the US will, not even just NATO. I told them their comments were abhorrent & they shouldn't consider themselves liberal.

Hillary is dangerous. And even more so, I'd say, now that her & the DNC are coming apart at the seams.

November 1, 2016 - 16:07

Tyler Wood

You think you're being smug. You may not ve so smug after nov.8

Unless you think a nuclear attack doesn't affect your internet connection, faggot

November 1, 2016 - 16:07

Tyler Cox

...

November 1, 2016 - 16:08

Adam Perez

Do you read? Do you have reading comprehension?

November 1, 2016 - 16:10

Jace Murphy

That's not what happened. What happened is all the polls in 2008 perfectly predicted the outcome of every state. The Romney campaign was using something like "corrected polls" or some other name. Silver simply used the unskewed polls, and he was in the right place, as social media began to supplant traditional news, and had the right Ins and blogger friends to make it seem like he was Galileo saying the earth goes around the sun.

November 1, 2016 - 16:12

Brody Russell

(AND NOTHING OF VALUE WAS LOST)

November 1, 2016 - 16:13

Luis Martinez

His campaign slogan is literally ripped off from Reagan you dumbshit.

November 1, 2016 - 16:18

Dominic Bell

This is of which importance now? You absolute misguided fucking idiot.

November 1, 2016 - 16:20

Jeremiah Flores

Le edgy anarchay chimay maymay

(kill yourself)

November 1, 2016 - 16:21

Sebastian Campbell

You don't have to listen to me.
I just have a chilling feeling, one I've maybe had three times in my life.

Calm before the storm…. Do you know that feeling? Everything goes dead quiet.
I've had it in 1991 when yugoslav war began. Then I had it when in Slovakia walking through town, knowing we are expecting attack (transpired 20 minutes later). I have it also now.
Dead quiet. Dod Kalm

November 1, 2016 - 16:31

Owen James

The one thing that makes it seem the polls aren't exactly correct are the rallies.

How can certain candidates have so much enthusiastic support and have it now reflect in the polling? Over sampling certain groups/areas, land line only polls, etc?

November 1, 2016 - 16:31

Eli Bell

The dumbshit thinks Trump is skeptical of exceptionalism spooks despite his fucking campaign slogan proclaiming otherwise.

November 1, 2016 - 16:36

James Gutierrez

Well, saying the greens are "worthless" sure doesn't help that happen. Which is the issue I took with that original poster.

Bullshit. I recommend everyone use this source when voting, and you can see many have already won office. There are successful third party candidates. berniecrats.net/

I just voted for the greens for President, and the B████crats in my area.

I would say these are in fact significant numbers. The greens seem to be doing better than ever, now.

November 1, 2016 - 16:40

Jeremiah Phillips

Never did I think I'd see the day, so soon, where democrats are ramping up war rhetoric & the republicans worried about it/their candidate saying we should normalize or work with Russia.

November 1, 2016 - 16:41

Nicholas Ross

I find it quite ironic that us "evil nazis" and "deplorable basket of alt-right" are advocating against war.

It could be the last irony I have. Nuclear war isn't fun. People of Hiroshima and Nagasaki can attest to that

November 1, 2016 - 16:44

Jason Ross

It's just human nature :^)

November 1, 2016 - 16:48

Lincoln Gutierrez

You faggots better do something to stop her winning. You like to fight and argue with us (as much as we like arguing with you) but
1. Nukes don't discriminate
2. There is no place for left and right in one world government

November 1, 2016 - 16:54

Ayden Phillips

Not to make you more worried, but I posted here about a month or two ago, about a dream I had.

The dream went like this:

So… Yeah. I had that dream maybe two months ago, and Hillary coming to power was clear as day, the beginning of the dream. I woke up & felt this sickness, like the dread & realization of what nuclear war is actually like; what it means to go through it. Of course, I still have no idea, but that terror, dread I felt & seeing everything glowing red still sticks with me. I don't think I'll forget that dream, anytime soon.

November 1, 2016 - 16:54

Jacob Peterson

test

November 1, 2016 - 16:56

Landon Ortiz

Posadism is the answer

November 1, 2016 - 16:57

Camden Clark

Oh Holla Forums! Naive till the bitter end.

November 1, 2016 - 16:59

Andrew Myers

..Is that Christopher Walken?

November 1, 2016 - 16:59

Brayden Thomas

Thank you man. I can sleep easily tonight now.

this is the thing I fear. For fucks sake let's stop it

November 1, 2016 - 17:00

Noah Flores

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

November 1, 2016 - 17:01

Jayden Rodriguez

You are a fucking idiot

November 1, 2016 - 17:01

Jayden Wood

They should make Trump 2016 signs double sided and put "No Fun Allowed" on the back.

November 1, 2016 - 17:04

Thomas Lewis

LOOK AT MY EDGE!!!!!!

This will get me some leftist pussy!

You stupid faggot don't know shit about shit. I have lived through conventional war. I dare not imagine what a nuclear one feels like.

So take your edgy comments and stick them up your fucking ass

November 1, 2016 - 17:05

Zachary Lee

like clockwork

November 1, 2016 - 17:05

Isaiah Richardson

Do you read?
Do you have access to internet?
Are you an imbecile?

Do you not see this is bigger than the left/right divide?

November 1, 2016 - 17:06

Adam Gonzalez

...

November 1, 2016 - 17:08

Jackson Clark

...

November 1, 2016 - 17:08

Aiden Hall

Wow, you're gay.

November 1, 2016 - 17:09

Jonathan Cooper

You seem triggered my dude. Don't you guys love final solutions?

November 1, 2016 - 17:09

Luis Reyes

I pray to lord hoxha that you get nuked personally

November 1, 2016 - 17:09

Jackson Richardson

The mushroom cloud just got
TEN!
FEET!
HIGHER!

November 1, 2016 - 17:10

Ian Moore

FTFY
The end is near, embrace it.

November 1, 2016 - 17:10

Jose Perry

...

November 1, 2016 - 17:13

Dominic Scott

And they said a million bunkers was a stupid idea!

The spectre of anti-revisionism must be looking down on us all with a smile.

Thank you based Hoxha.

November 1, 2016 - 17:14

Julian Jenkins

Yeah. Actually if lefty faggots wanna get nuked, that's their perogative. Forgive me for trying to stop it

November 1, 2016 - 17:15

Brody Bailey

Sorry Adolf, but you have to go back.

November 1, 2016 - 17:18

Dominic Robinson

The future is bright

November 1, 2016 - 17:18

Jaxson Cox

Don't mind them. They're just a bunch of classcucks trying to cope with their lack of agency with bullshit macho posturing.

Or former polyps that found out they're Jewish and became "leftist"

November 1, 2016 - 17:20

Isaac Cruz

I ain't upset at you, bartering is the 3rd step, you're doing good!

Hoxhaism best girl!

November 1, 2016 - 17:21

Jack Reyes

You're using the words but you're not local.

>>>/reddit/

November 1, 2016 - 17:22

Angel Cook

Did you just reply to yourself?

November 1, 2016 - 17:22

Luke Martin

I all seriousness tho I dunn wanna get nooked or estint.

November 1, 2016 - 17:22

Samuel Ross

INTERLOPER

November 1, 2016 - 17:23

Camden Howard

We made it, leftypol!

November 1, 2016 - 17:24

Kayden Thomas

Butt hurt former polyps detected. Here's something else to trigger you. I'm in a Antifa chapter and regularly surveil nazis

November 1, 2016 - 17:25

Ryder Nguyen

This is wider than left/right divide. Infact it is fucking urgent. Fuck them really. I know not all leftist are like that. I'm friends with quite a few and they agree we must work together on this. If it is the first and last thing we do

November 1, 2016 - 17:25

Henry Hill

Just stop posting.

November 1, 2016 - 17:27

Julian Harris

That's cool dude. I don't have a problem with antifa.

November 1, 2016 - 17:27

Oliver Jones

Posadism have her own incarnation tho…
smut when?

November 1, 2016 - 17:27

Christian Fisher

Nuke 'em, Hilldog!

November 1, 2016 - 17:28

Joshua Sullivan

Look at all these replies. Must have struck a nerve.

November 1, 2016 - 17:28

Thomas Murphy

...

November 1, 2016 - 17:30

Justin Reed

You shithead fucking idiot. I am not pro Trump. I just want to live

November 1, 2016 - 17:30

Elijah Cox

Did he strike a nerve there? Looks like he did.

November 1, 2016 - 17:30

Joshua Bennett

OUR ANTIREVISIONISM WILL BLOT OUT THE SUN

November 1, 2016 - 17:31

Jayden Walker

PANTSUITS AND MUSHROOM CLOUDS

November 1, 2016 - 17:31

Jace Davis

The only strikes I care about are nuclear.

November 1, 2016 - 17:32

Dylan Evans

You are retarded. Report to me back in 10 days and tell me how nuclear fallout is affecting your internet connection.

November 1, 2016 - 17:32

Jason Howard

Such lulz. Oh wow. Funny!

November 1, 2016 - 17:33

Ian Davis

Where we're going we don't need comms!

November 1, 2016 - 17:34

Austin Myers

let it rain, motherfuckers

November 1, 2016 - 17:35

Luke Gutierrez

Haha I know. There's so many crypto fascists on this board that REEEEE at any mention of material oppression based on race or sexuality. That SJWs are destroying the left.

But you start talking about taking a hard line against Nazis and suddenly it's "shut up" or "you just want to beat up poor whites". All that righteous indignation is suddenly gone

November 1, 2016 - 17:36

Hunter Murphy

...

November 1, 2016 - 17:37

Ryan Campbell

The funniest part are your replies.

November 1, 2016 - 17:39

Samuel Turner

I was looking for nuclear videos to GET THIS ATOMIC PARTY STARTED but I found this old Jill Stein video instead

youtube.com/watch?v=asqKKrXLxhY

November 1, 2016 - 17:41

Isaiah Johnson

Agreed but what do Posadist jokes have to do with being a classcuck or macho posturing?

November 1, 2016 - 17:42

Brayden Powell

A serious question. Are you guys retarded or are you playing to be? Because your smugness and internet connections are going to be rendered useless on about a week

November 1, 2016 - 17:42

Juan Rodriguez

I get the feeling don't blame me, I visit this board rarely, but I got this conclusion:

95% here are edgelord faggots larping. 5 % are actual leftists.

(no insult to them, I respect them, they have also shown respect back)

November 1, 2016 - 17:45

Wyatt Mitchell

I'm lucid and ready to taste the atomic soup my Abuela's stirring up.

November 1, 2016 - 17:46

Nicholas Evans

Can't believe out of everything that comes out of this board Posadism is the thing that rustles pols jimmies most.

I bet they already forgot those leaked emails saying aliens will come down to Earth when we use nukes. Hillary will be so progressive we fucking transcend!
rt.com/viral/362272
rt.com/usa/331511
Praise nukes!

November 1, 2016 - 17:46

Thomas Kelly

kek, leftypol has the response to every spook

November 1, 2016 - 17:47

Julian Thomas

REALLY MAKES ME THINK

November 1, 2016 - 17:51

Cameron Thomas

This is the same shit i saw two days ago.

Two 20yo fags who never saw yugoslavia, parading in partizan outfits and blasting hey brigade while commuting to university. This is what i think of majority of this board. Again no insult to leftists, the few and real far between

November 1, 2016 - 17:51

Ethan Flores

That actually sounds about right.

November 1, 2016 - 17:52

Brody Rodriguez

You are a fucking larping joke, you really are. (majority)

November 1, 2016 - 17:52

Benjamin Ramirez

Never forget the crimes of Josip Stalin Tito, Lifelong Premiere of the Ugoslavic Socialist States of Russia. Under his reign over one hundred billion died of communism.

November 1, 2016 - 17:57

Nicholas Flores

I'm all for making fun of yourself and having a laugh but too many of these jokes are just tantrums veiled with nilism and economic determinism.

Tantrums due to them not being able to hang onto their racist sexist spooks. They became leftist not out of empathy but to reset everything so no one can have an advantage if they aren't going to be able to continue to be if it from white supremacy.

I mean damn look how many of them got triggered when I mentioned most posters and Americans in general are at least partial Jewish.

I lived in Germany for several years their white population doesn't look like US population

Also too many on here that are nililist because they're butt hurt they aren't going to be able to hang onto their latent

November 1, 2016 - 18:00

Anthony Perez

lol

November 1, 2016 - 18:03

Luis Mitchell

Did you forget in what kind of place you're posting in you fucking retard?
Disappointing
Also anyone buying into cheap scaremongering rhetoric is an idiot and a tool

November 1, 2016 - 18:03

Gabriel Jackson

wew that's a lot of projection there bucko

November 1, 2016 - 18:03

Chase Murphy

Fucked this post all up. Need to stop posting from my ipad

November 1, 2016 - 18:05

Grayson Davis

Not this no true Scotsman bullshit again.

November 1, 2016 - 18:06

Juan Hall

...

November 1, 2016 - 18:08

Angel Wilson

Well tbh there is something to it. Hillary threatened Iran with nukes if they attacked Israel, in '08. So we might not have nuclear war, but it's almost assured we'll have a conventional one under her.

Possibly under Trump, as well. So who the Hell knows what's going to happen.

November 1, 2016 - 18:11

James King

I run with an ultra squad. Most right wing oriented, couple of nazis. But we have a left top boy. Do you know why we get along? Because he is a true leftist. We accept we have different views on things Unlike majority of you faggots here.

November 1, 2016 - 18:11

Sebastian Nguyen

lol no

November 1, 2016 - 18:12

Asher Baker

Scaremongering?

YOU ABSOLUTE FUCKING IDIOT

Read some facts. What an ignorant fuck

November 1, 2016 - 18:13

Luis Hall

He sounds like a bitch tbh fam

November 1, 2016 - 18:13

Jaxson Bell

Alright, alright. Now genuine discussion/important posts are being pushed out of the top of the thread because of the shitposting. Come on, now.

November 1, 2016 - 18:13

Lucas Bell

Heh, triggered much?

November 1, 2016 - 18:14

Owen James

XDdd

Let me buy some more Žižek
youtu.be/80X0pbCV_t4

You are lackays. You are idiots blind to the concept of truth.

Enjoy fallout.

November 1, 2016 - 18:16

Cooper Hill

Someone had a pic of nazi propaganda and it was a picture of a fat Jewish guy. The guy looked exactly like a pic of a real life neo nazi next to it. He also looked like an American guy to me.

It always makes me lol how many polyps and former polyops have Jewish features. It's so obvious to the average German that Americans have a lot of Jewish blood in them

November 1, 2016 - 18:17

Justin Ramirez

Yes by idiocy of majority of this board. You are not leftist. You are idiot

November 1, 2016 - 18:17

Austin Edwards

Wait, do you live in America now?

November 1, 2016 - 18:19

Tyler Rodriguez

6 days until the elections

who does Holla Forums think will win?

strawpoll.me/11555403

November 1, 2016 - 18:19

Josiah Harris

Yes. I used to live in Germany for several years. Had lots of German national friends and we'd talk about how stupid Americans were all the time

November 1, 2016 - 18:20

Henry Butler

Hillary Clinton no doubt, the system is rigged as fuck and the the last thing the establisment want is a complete rset of their allready corrupt shithole. Trump is an idiot but he aint their puppet and they fucking hate it. Hope he wins so we atleast will be living in silly times but if Hillary gets in we will have ww3 and thats pretty fancy cause no body is in the mood for war.

November 1, 2016 - 18:24

Jose Davis

...

November 1, 2016 - 18:25

Eli Howard

Explain why. I have time

November 1, 2016 - 18:26

Brody Perez

Not every greeny is your sex slave Zerzan, go back to your radio show you techy faggot.

November 1, 2016 - 18:29

Angel Wood

Are you still writing thesis length responses to trolls on Holla Forums or have you given that up? :^)

November 1, 2016 - 18:29

Matthew Myers

i found this the most insulting
like…what the fuck?

November 1, 2016 - 18:30

Jason Garcia

Her Wall Street porky owners want Russia to be eliminated as competitors.

The Wikileaks's emails show her as some that's actually pretty dumb and just follows porkies orders.

Putin is equally as reckless. He's willing to play chicken with her. This is very likely to lead to war

November 1, 2016 - 18:32

Noah Martin

...

November 1, 2016 - 18:32

Evan Murphy

Because every time she's been given substantial power, she's voted for or pushed war actions.

As Senator, she voted for the Iraq War & for the Patriot Act(which you could say was a war of types, on our own people). As Senator she also authored a bill that would make flag burning illegal, with a $100,000 fine & a year in jail. Even Scalia said it was unconstitutional, against the first amendment.

As Secretary of State, she pushed for "regime change" in Libya, armed rebels there & in Syria; possibly arming ISIS. She then got Qaddafi overthrown & killed, then laughed about it. She pushed hard for war in Syria, to overthrow Assad. She refused to cut ties to Honduras in aid, even though a coup was taking place. Many have blamed her for not stopping the coup; she even edited her book to take out the part where she specifically avoided calling it a coup to maintain aid.

Anything else you guys want to add? Oh yeah, again, she threatened Iran with nuclear warfare if they attacked Israel.

November 1, 2016 - 18:34

Jace Rogers

Race is a spook. Couldn't care less what you got to say about it.

You on the other hand are easily ass blasted by how foolish American Nazis and American Nazi sympathizers look when so many of them look Jewish as fuck.

November 1, 2016 - 18:35

Gavin Lee

Yeah, the no-fly zone in Syria she's also been pushing. Jimmy Dore has a great video about this, but I can't remember which one. He calls her out for having investors who make war materials, and that they've invested in her more than any other politician, ever.

She has a fucking financial motivation/dues to go to war. I hate this cunt.

November 1, 2016 - 18:36

Adrian Jenkins

Sorry we haven't been gas lighting Clinton like you fuccboi.

November 1, 2016 - 18:41

Lincoln Bell

More accurate poll

strawpoll.me/11555531

November 1, 2016 - 18:42

Christopher Clark

She said "I urged him to bomb" in regards to pressuring Bill during Bosnia. She's a fucking lunatic.

November 1, 2016 - 18:43

Jaxson Mitchell

It's funny to me that this all came out because she's a typical stingy porky bootlicker.

I mean damn you couldn't conspire with some hackers to cover your digital tracks. Instead she gets a stressed out wage slave a la stone tear who is probably working for a pittance and he fucks it all up

November 1, 2016 - 18:45

Isaiah Wood

Truer words have never been written. I can't believe her laughing about Qaddafi didn't get bigger. She's insane, egomaniacal & a sociopath.

Yeah, whatever happened with that Congressional review about that shit? It seemed like a great way to nail her.

November 1, 2016 - 18:49

Jonathan Turner

I like how Stein turned out green. :^)

November 1, 2016 - 18:49

Jayden Reed

...

November 1, 2016 - 18:51

Angel Davis

Probably Hillary if her election rigging network is as strong as it was during the primaries.

November 1, 2016 - 19:01

Hunter Young

Reminder Johnson v. Stein round 2 on Tavis Smiley tonight.

November 1, 2016 - 19:02

Justin Lewis

I have yet to see the first, but will, soon.. How did it go?

November 1, 2016 - 19:03

Austin Walker

BIG BEAUTIFUL PANTSUITS, AND NEIMAN MARCUS WILL PAY FOR IT

November 1, 2016 - 19:07

Cooper Hall

Interesting you say that. America is actually at a very similar impasse that Yugoslavia was in 1991. I don't think we will see that degree of conflict and violence, nor do I think we will see nuclear war, but things are going to get very bad indeed.

November 1, 2016 - 19:16

Isaac Hughes

Who attacked you in fucking Slovakia?

November 1, 2016 - 19:23

Joshua Mitchell

...

November 1, 2016 - 19:29

Asher Moore

Relatively uneventful. Gary Johnson said "bullshit" on PBS when asked about why the deficit for his state was 3 billion dollars higher when he left office of governor.

November 1, 2016 - 19:30

Jeremiah Nelson

With Johnson's recent major flubs(Aleppo, sticking his tongue out, now this), I can't help but think he's a plant or being paid to subvert third parties/voters.

Or was he always an idiot?

November 1, 2016 - 19:33

Brody Gonzalez

we only need to take down Kaine and Ryan before getting Chairman S█████ in the oval

November 1, 2016 - 19:48

Alexander White

So what does everyone think will happen during the next four years under Trump that's basically guarenteed at this point?

I hate Trump and he scares me but I guess I better get comfy.

November 1, 2016 - 19:55

Brody Brown

I don't think he's guaranteed

If you look at aggregates of the polls he's still getting memed on

November 1, 2016 - 20:03

Eli Stewart

Fyi, that story about the Obamas unfollowing Clinton on Twitter was a fabrication. That poster had to have known that when they posted it, too.

November 1, 2016 - 20:05

Isaac Cruz

Thats true. If he loses Florida hes done.

The more extreme and interesting it sounds the more you have to look into it to prove its legitimacy

November 1, 2016 - 20:06

Brody Taylor

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."

November 1, 2016 - 20:09

Aiden Howard

So much stamina, so much hoarses and bayonettes

November 1, 2016 - 20:12

Ayden Powell

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3891838/Now-Huma-claims-never-used-laptop-seized-Anthony-Weiner-FBI-explain-ended-containing-Clinton-emails.html

aol.com/article/news/2016/11/01/lawyer-huma-abedin-didnt-know-emails-were-on-anthony-weiners/21596484/

"Lawyer: Huma Abedin didn't know emails were on Anthony Weiner's computer"

O RLY?

It's getting even better.. Is Huma trying to save her own ass? Has the day finally arrived when her aides/democrats are seeing blood in the water & don't want to go down with her? It's getting interesting..

November 1, 2016 - 20:19

Adrian Green

WI and MI are going red. Illinois and NJ might slip by (think Rauner and Christie) too. This would give Trump over 270.

November 1, 2016 - 20:20

Jaxson Scott

True; I had to look into that one.

November 1, 2016 - 20:20

Michael Sanchez

There is nothing we can do, other than vote against her.

Fact is, there is only two ways this ends: with Hilary losing or Hilary being Impeached by Congress.

November 1, 2016 - 20:22

Justin Morales

LOL

November 1, 2016 - 20:23

Nathan Butler

Who profits from the left/right divide?

November 1, 2016 - 20:24

Jayden Smith

bankers

November 1, 2016 - 20:27

Henry Wood

If by "the left/right divide" you mean "the divide between class-unconscious liberals and class-unconscious conservatives," then it's the ruling class.

November 1, 2016 - 20:28

Jack Hill

I am under the impression, we are people. Who profits from dividing us?

November 1, 2016 - 20:33

Wyatt Robinson

Good end:

Bad end:

November 1, 2016 - 20:33

Juan Cooper

At the end of the day left and right don't mean a thing.
If you were hungry, I wouldn't ask you I would give you food.

Think about that

November 1, 2016 - 20:37

Jose Rodriguez

I vote for Bad End. I've heard parts 1, 2, and 3 of the negative prediction from others and, based on this election, liberals hate the left and would sooner lose elections than vote for anything resembling socialism, even just the demsoc lite B████ was offering.

November 1, 2016 - 20:39

Daniel Campbell

what are you a commie? give a man a fish he eats for a day. tell everyone not to give a man a fish and he starves, leaving more fish for you.

November 1, 2016 - 20:39

Julian Morgan

It all comes down to very simple things. Help your fellow man if it is in your capacity

November 1, 2016 - 20:41

Josiah Russell

Thanks, man. Same here.

November 1, 2016 - 20:46

Cooper Murphy

kill yourself

November 1, 2016 - 20:46

Lincoln Powell

Hillary called a black caterer "that n-word" during an AIDS fundraiser with Jacques Chirac's wife.
dailywire.com/news/10033/hillarys-former-white-house-chef-says-she-called-chase-stephens

Two days after Tracey Martin's interview the personal chef had his phone hacked and his apartment broken into. A family member of his receive a strange voicemail. The phone number was identified by Wikileaks as belonging to the Democratic National Committee.
canadafreepress.com/article/dnc-intimidation-of-tom-bauerle-loved-ones-exposed-by-wikileaks1

dailywire.com/news/10033/hillarys-former-white-house-chef-says-she-called-chase-stephens

Hillary didn't denouce her ties to "a former member of the Ku Klux Klan."
huffingtonpost.com/entry/kkklinton_us_577ab7f4e4b0a629c1aa8f46
twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/768864106656956420

Secret service veteran Gary Byrne claims Hillary once tossed a Bible at the back of someone's head.
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3652569/Secret-Service-Agent-Book-Raging-Hillary-Clinton-threw-Bible-agent-s-colleague.html

Detractors claim that he was echoing rumors started by prankster newbies.
washingtonpost.com/news/reliable-source/wp/2015/04/09/that-hillary-clinton-threw-a-lampbookbible-story-has-been-circulating-for-ages/

However, Byrne was personally commended by Bill Clinton for his "enviable" "knowledge of … the presidency." He was also subpoenaed to testify during the Lewinsky impeachment.
breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/06/20/exclusive-secret-service-agent-book-raging-hillary-clinton-threw-bible-at-agents-colleague/

November 1, 2016 - 20:51

Chase Harris

We're already there. Actually, this would be an improvement because then it would be out in the open instead of obscured by the left and right sockpuppets doing a punch and judy show.

November 1, 2016 - 20:53

Matthew Richardson

During yesterday's Tavis Smiley show he said the word "bullshit" and had to be bleeped, so yes.

November 1, 2016 - 20:53

Jaxon Ward

welp someone finally made it.
porningtonpost.com/video/cuckold-trump/

November 1, 2016 - 20:54

Juan Scott

Sorry m8, but I really don't give a fuck. Hillary is the best choice when accelerationism is your goal. And that is my goal. They're both kike stooges but Hillary honestly seems like the worst choice here, so Hillary it is. Fuck this stupid fucking country and fuck the world.

PANTSUITS AND MUSHROOM CLOUDS

November 1, 2016 - 20:55

Robert Gutierrez

Hope that dude's eyes are OK. Malcolm McDowell went temporarily blind from filming A Clockwork Orange.

November 1, 2016 - 20:57

David Allen

Mods, we need a Posaidist flag!

November 1, 2016 - 21:02

Ryder Bell

So who will win? Hillary or Trump?

4pol is posting infographs and polls that show Trump winning

November 1, 2016 - 21:08

Xavier Bailey

It's either going to be a close election like 2000 or a Trump blowout. We won't know until November 9th.

November 1, 2016 - 21:09

Ethan Campbell

My gut tells me Trump

November 1, 2016 - 21:10

Jayden Diaz

Johnson bitches about US arms ending up in hands of Islamists, yet Cuban arms end up in hands of Boko Haram.

November 1, 2016 - 21:11

Ethan Gomez

Can I bang Milania? Please??

November 1, 2016 - 21:13

Jeremiah Roberts

No one has forgotten the terrible things Trump has done and said during this election.

In the polls it either has Hillary up or tied and with the states she is going to get she'll win the electoral college numbers to win.

November 1, 2016 - 21:13

Thomas Thompson

Rolled 6, 2, 5 = 13 (3d6)

Just like they did with Romney, right? LOL

Rule number 1 newfaggot. Holla Forums is only ever right about 1 thing, and that thing is that the jews are behind everything. They are wrong about absolutely everything else.

November 1, 2016 - 21:13

Samuel Richardson

Both the massive fluctuations in polling numbers, and the naked stonewall bias against Trump, make opinion polls feel almost worthless this election, and analytic commentary of them doubly so. I honestly have no idea, but the wild-eyed panic amongst die lugenpresse suggests it's probably close.

November 1, 2016 - 21:14

Levi Martin

It's going to seem like it'll be really close leading up but then it'll turn out that Trump support was way underreported (like Brexit), and Trump will win the popular vote in a landslide. We will only find this out way after the fact, though, because Clinton will pull favors all over the country just like Dubya did with Jeb in Florida in 2000.

November 1, 2016 - 21:14

Ryder Long

The no-fly zone is supposed to restrict who, though?? ISIS doesn't have planes!

November 1, 2016 - 21:20

Jordan Gray

no doubt in my mind that Trump will win the popular vote, it's the electoral college that could steal it from him

November 1, 2016 - 21:20

Aaron Thompson

Well actually, the reason Brexit passed was because Millenials didn't vote because they're retards.

Things may be different with the election because all the millenials are terrified of Trump and all the mommies and daddies are making their kids vote.

I don't understand why anyone would vote for Romney

November 1, 2016 - 21:21

Jordan Lopez

Clinton overthrew the elected president of Honduras. Now Hondureans and Salvadoreans are in the US begging for refuge. Why don't the Republicans ever mention this?

November 1, 2016 - 21:24

Parker Hernandez

That's not something based in reality

November 1, 2016 - 21:25

Matthew Bailey

Satan trips confirm

November 1, 2016 - 21:26

Jack Johnson

Dis pote, t'es d'où ?

November 1, 2016 - 21:35

Evan Foster

What's incorrect about it?

November 1, 2016 - 21:37

Ryan Wright

That means I would like a source

November 1, 2016 - 21:39

Ryder Clark

Military-refugee complex:
dailycaller.com/2016/07/12/central-american-gang-wars-force-us-to-take-on-more-asylum-seekers/
america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/9/hillary-clinton-honduraslatinamericaforeignpolicy.html
informationclearinghouse.info/article23211.htm

November 1, 2016 - 22:12

Xavier Bailey

lol

November 1, 2016 - 22:17

Caleb Nguyen

Young people were for Brexit more than any other age group, except maybe for old people. The ones who were against it the most were people who already had comfortable jobs.

November 1, 2016 - 23:15

Jacob Sanchez

That's a guy in blackface is it not? I like this one. Nobody wins.

November 1, 2016 - 23:27

Nathan Edwards

Barack Obama's brother stumping for Trump

He didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.

reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5afsu6/hello_trump_family_malik_obama_here_ama/

November 1, 2016 - 23:27

Michael Anderson

Milania aint thick enough

November 1, 2016 - 23:28

Hudson Torres

It's not really in the bag for Trump. Actually, according to the polls he's still struggling.

I can't speculate why tbh. There is no consensus about who his support base is, who is liable to go either way, etc.

November 1, 2016 - 23:31

Nathan Lewis

Wut? Is that true? I remember right after it happening all the gnashing and wailing of teeth and calls to end democracy because old people can't vote in the interest of the youth.

November 1, 2016 - 23:33

Gabriel Peterson

democracynow.org/2016/5/24/as_hillary_clinton_defends_her_role

November 1, 2016 - 23:33

Charles Jones

I remember reading multiple times back then that if you analyze the youth vote more carefully and not just lump 30s and 20s together you get a completely different picture. The explanation given was that young people feel they have no future under the current system due to very little possibility to get a good job.

November 1, 2016 - 23:41

Jaxon Johnson

I think Trump is almost certain to win now.

Between Gerrymandering, voter suppression, voter intimidation, the conservative Supreme Court and the years tacit approval of all these anti-democratic tatics from the DNC he has this in the bag.

Democrats need to win unambiguously to win any races usually, Close races always go to the GOP because of what's stated above.

November 1, 2016 - 23:49

Ethan Rodriguez

...

November 1, 2016 - 23:53

Charles Butler

youtube.com/watch?v=BC9KpKDRuBw

HOW MUCH ARE THEY PAYING YOU, LOUIS

What a fucking sellout. Sad to see him go the route of Colbert & Samantha Bee.

November 1, 2016 - 23:57

Carson Allen

I seriously think Gary Johnson has aspergers or some sort of mild mental retardation. How the hell did this guy actually get to be governor of New Mexico?

November 2, 2016 - 00:06

Daniel Lewis

What makes you say that. The Republicans hate Shillary. They see her as the ultimate SJW, that's not just the base but the establishment as well.

There's no command and control over voter suppression, it's years of laws, and institutional momentum that give Repubs the win in close elecions.

You really think say the Supreme Court would give the presidency to Clinton instead of Trump. There's just nothing to indicate that.

November 2, 2016 - 00:10

Justin Cook

I'm running on the theory he's had some kind of untreated concussion from all the sports he's into

Not that poster but I think they're split, with the hawkier types being pro-Hillary

November 2, 2016 - 00:14

Carter Lee

Also the porkier types who have a vested financial interest in her winning.

November 2, 2016 - 00:17

Julian Carter

Yeah that could swing a close election.

Did they change the border of some fucking states while I wasn't looking?

November 2, 2016 - 00:20

Liam Baker

I concede that lots of porky repubs have come out in support of her. But the establishment still fears their base.

It's why they allowed Trump to win the nomination even though it was well within their power to force some other candidate.

November 2, 2016 - 00:21

Cameron Davis

It needs to fucking burn to the ground. Political money is too entrenched in it.

November 2, 2016 - 00:24

Alexander Robinson

Part three following the last two debates between Stein and Johnson last night and tonight:

pbs.org/wnet/tavissmiley/blogs/online-forum-dr-jill-stein-gov-gary-johnson/

November 2, 2016 - 00:25

Parker Evans

What rock were you hiding under in 2014?

November 2, 2016 - 00:29

Jordan Bennett

Oh Louis… I laughed at so many of your jokes.

I really thought you were smarter than this.

November 2, 2016 - 00:35

Camden Powell

I guess he's just as misinformed and out of touch as every other piece of shit Boomer and GenXer.

November 2, 2016 - 00:39

Isaiah Flores

That's how's she's perceived. It just means she won't do anything to explicitly bolster white supremacy in the US like Trump will.

Just means bourgious wing of the Repubs. The Repubs still advocate for patriarchy and white supremacy which is why female and non cis white neoliberals join the democrats.

Sorry but only a minority of Repub representatives are consciously working for porky class interests. Maybe past Repub congress critters could see the forest from the tree but this batch can't. They wouldn't have reflexively blocked every single one of Obama's neoliberal policies save for a handful of exceptions.

You're just some suburbanite classcuck that thinks if you just ignore all nuance it makes you sound smart. Like you've got the real answer to everything.

November 2, 2016 - 00:46

Tyler Richardson

Looks like they were much smarter than the dems.

November 2, 2016 - 00:48

Robert Sanchez

I don't think Trump will win. I think not matter what, the american election has already be decided. It will be interesting to see the result anywho.

November 2, 2016 - 00:54

Hunter Gonzalez

was for

November 2, 2016 - 01:00

Luke Robinson

Here's the further question though: how likely is it that Clinton's corruption will caught up with her after being elected, given all these Wiki & Dicki leaks and FBI reopening the investigation?
Will her war enthusiasm be at least somewhat obstructed?

November 2, 2016 - 01:01

Robert Williams

They don't care either way, and will use either one to shield them from hard economic questions, which is why Jeb "Guac Bowl" Bush was the anointed one before Trump crashed the RNC with no survivors. Different flavors of idpol are identical in the eyes of the Republicrat establishment, and if the cishetwhitemalechristian flavor is losing popularity, they've proven themselves willing to drop it in a heartbeat.

The majority of Repub representatives are brainless rubber-stamping robots executing the instructions of ALEC, and have no consciousness whatsoever.

I don't think there's any possible way Clinton's presidency will survive to the next election. That will, however, just leave us with Kaine.

November 2, 2016 - 01:15

Sebastian Hall

It's either that or have her immunity voided and if that happens then everything goes out the fucking window.

November 2, 2016 - 01:26

Lincoln Walker

…What are you smoking? She specifically uses the isms & idpol on a daily basis for political gain.

Your entire post is garbage & I'm too tired atm to shit on it more. Obviously there's enough bait there where others will take it & address it.

I'll take this one, though
How did you recently stumble onto 8ch?

November 2, 2016 - 01:27

Luis Fisher

An user elsewhere mentioned that it was pretty easy to synch emails or whatever if you were using a different computer, so she might actually be ignorant.

Still have no idea what they were thinking with that one.

November 2, 2016 - 01:29

Angel Barnes

Middle-class millennials absolutely were rabidly pro-EU, and the class bias of the media makes people think that they speak for their whole age group. Working-class millennials, on the other hand, are really struggling and I'm prepared to believe that they voted heavily against the status quo.

November 2, 2016 - 01:41

Joshua Smith

Same reason Rubio & Cruz (both Cubans from the orbit of the anti-Castro expat community in Jeb's Florida, ethnically laundered as generic spics) were supposed to be the next two front-runners down: Cultivating the Republican beaner vote.

November 2, 2016 - 01:46

Matthew Barnes

Don't most other Hispanics dislike Cuban-Americans for thinking they're better or something along those lines?

November 2, 2016 - 01:49

Jayden Gray

Look how that worked out. I seriously wonder how the two-party system is going to survive this 'demographic transition' the elites have created. Republicans are going to start getting rebellious when they realize that the brown bloc-vote is going to keep the Dems in power forever.

November 2, 2016 - 01:50

Nathan Carter

There's definite class antagonism since expat Cubans were both relatively wealthy and accepted right out of the gate ("persecuted by communism" etc) while any other spanish speaker is treated like trash, especially by Miami-Cubans.

November 2, 2016 - 01:53

Kevin Sullivan

African Americans voted for Obama, I'm sure the Republicans took this as a challenge:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_minority#Invisible_model_minority:_Africans

November 2, 2016 - 01:57

Ian Morgan

Yeah, but African-Americans are a more cohesive group than Hispanic-Americans (despite the hundreds of articles asking if Obama was black enough to truly be the first African-American president)

November 2, 2016 - 02:00

Wyatt Thomas

Oh GAWD another fucking triggered white LARPer boi.

Hey dipshit, how many fucking women or PoC's you see at Trump rallies. Even the most stupid lumprenprole can see Trumps white supremacy platform from a mile away.

Yeah Clinton uses classic we're all one people colorblind bullshit idpol. Not "I will maintain white supremacy oppress all the Mexicans, Muslims and whoever else you blame neoliberalism on" idpol. GODDAMN you gotta be purposely ignoring it because even borderline illiterate lumpen proles know that's what Trump is selling.

Spare me, been dealing with latent racist white people my whole life.

Wish you could realize that not a single PoC falls for the whole gamergate SJW's are just left wing version of Nazis bullshit arguments you use to ignore systemic racism and white supremacy in the US.

If you understood spanish you'd know that spanish media has been highlighting Trumps racism since day one.

November 2, 2016 - 02:03

Connor Gutierrez

Gonna have to work for dat (You) bro

November 2, 2016 - 02:05

Zachary Gonzalez

I was watching a CNN video a couple of hours ago, and a Trump supporter/surrogate brought up an interesting motive for this coming to light right now; the email stuff.

He said that Anthony Weiner could be facing up to 15 years in prison for the pending case. And he may have let the cops know about the emails on his computer as a bargaining chip for a lesser sentence.

Seems plausible & very interesting to consider.

November 2, 2016 - 02:05

Samuel Brown

I think the real difference is simply that American-Africans are such a tiny minority that Obama managed to fly under the radar aside from the birther memes, sort of like towelheads before 9/11, which (unlike in Europe, which is chock full of them) were treated in a totally anodyne fashion.

November 2, 2016 - 02:08

Justin Hughes

I'm sure. If I were sitting on a stockpile of weapons-grade blackmail I'd be playing it for everything it was worth if the alternative meant going to pmita prison.

Maybe Huma is wishing she put out more right about now lol

November 2, 2016 - 02:08

Xavier Stewart

They're base won't. And that white supremacy Southern Strategy is the only thing keeping the GOP a national party. Seriously can you name a SINGLE policy that benefits the cis white males that flock to the GOP that isn't related to maintaining patriacry (anti-abortion platform), or white supremacy?

What economic policy is beneficial to even working class whites that the GOP supports.

PoC's vote democrat because they're afraid if they don't the GOP will bring back Jim Crowe, which is basically what the GOP promises every election.

November 2, 2016 - 02:09

Juan Cox

Goddamn.. I think you just memed yourself into oblivion.

I actually speak fluent Spanish. :^)

Wherever you came from

YOU HAVE TO GO BACK

Shitty bait, tbh.

November 2, 2016 - 02:10

Colton Foster

Their one, true, purest uncut rock crystal crack cocaine of trashcan ideology, of which everything else they peddle is a variation: Classcuckery.

I think he meant "Spanish-language" I love watching Spaniards and New World Hispanics get into bitchfights on Wikipedia talk pages, it reminds me of my own squabbles with Commonwealth anglophone fags.

November 2, 2016 - 02:14

Jason Foster

Lmao, seriously.

He's got a golden ticket. And Hillary's a cunt, so it's not like you're throwing a decent person under the bus(or that she wouldn't do the same to you given any chance), so you wouldn't feel guilty either. Maybe even a bit proud or find it funny.

November 2, 2016 - 02:14

Chase Rivera

Haha stay triggered.

It's easy, I'll break it down to you like a baby. Dems and Repubs are both neoliberal.

Repubs use straight white cis hate for gays, Muslims, mexicans and women to keep the support of their base.

The Dems just don't explicitly call for the oppression of minorities….

broke dick white bois like you get triggered whenever someone points this obvious fact out.

November 2, 2016 - 02:15

Samuel Campbell

You got the white part right.

November 2, 2016 - 02:19

James Cox

BULLSHIT, they're only okay with class cuckory so long as they have some black or Muslim caste underneath them for THEM to stomp their boot on. This has been true since the days of slavery.

This is why so many white boys get so triggered by SJW's. It's people porky has promised white proles will stay beneath them, complaining about arbitrary oppression based on their ID.

November 2, 2016 - 02:20

Carson Hernandez

...

November 2, 2016 - 02:21

Blake Baker

Oh brother, the old, I'm not racist sexist if I'M a women or PoC.

Couldn't care less about your actually sex, just which policies you support.

November 2, 2016 - 02:24

Austin James

...

November 2, 2016 - 02:24

Tyler Carter

replied to the wrong post stupid head

November 2, 2016 - 02:25

Andrew Cruz

You can't just post part 1 of that man come on

November 2, 2016 - 02:26

Anthony Nelson

I'm dying over here

November 2, 2016 - 02:29

Connor Gray

thanks ♥

November 2, 2016 - 02:32

Jaxon Wilson

:3

November 2, 2016 - 02:34

Chase Myers

Morally degenerate people don't care whether there's someone under them to look down on, or someone "over" them to be resentful toward. All that matters is that they have social approval to bully or hate someone else.

Scum like you, who ruthlessly pick on people because of their skin, their sex, their culture, or their political allegiance, regardless of whether they've ever wronged anyone.

It's the perfect distraction from genuine political issues.

November 2, 2016 - 02:36

Evan Nguyen

Haha more triggered ex Holla Forumsyp tears. Oppression be it in the form of poverty, racism, or sexism is violence.

White people get butt hurt whenever someone like me says that because it's true, and because if people realize it's a form of violience they're not likely to tolerate it anymore.

How many logically prezels did you have to make to come to the conclusion that someone calling out systemic racism and sexism is the one doing the bullying LMAO.

November 2, 2016 - 02:43

Nicholas Price

GULIMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRR

November 2, 2016 - 02:55

David Taylor

Verbal "violence", eh?

How is decrying people that aren't racist, aren't sexist, and haven't hurt anyone, not bullying?

Racism and sexism aren't invisible mystical glyphs emblazoned on your forehead, to be unpacked from your magic backpack, they're concrete actions. If someone holds no malice, if they're innocent of any harmful action, how can you possibly justify hurling such accusatory invective at them?

Further, even if someone is the most racist, sexist misanthrope imaginable, and are "included" in the "systemic power", but they lack the legal power to actually act on those sentiments, why bother caring about them, instead of abuses that ARE still entirely legal, or even legally compulsory?

November 2, 2016 - 02:58

Liam Flores

Get cucked. I'm talking about material oppression based on sex and race to the exclusion of relation to the MoP.

I couldn't care less about the feelings or thoughts of bigots.

You gamer gate ducks need to get new straw men cause this one is getting old

November 2, 2016 - 03:01

Ryan Peterson

Quite a lot, actually.

November 2, 2016 - 03:03

Isaiah Young

What are you even doing here ?

November 2, 2016 - 03:05

Nathan Fisher

Denial isn't just a river in Egypt

November 2, 2016 - 03:13

Nolan Williams

Then why do you smear vast swathes of the population for things they don't participate in, imbue them with widely rejected motives they lack, bleat about rare-to-nonexistant 1st-world "material oppression based on sex and race to the exclusion of relation to the MoP", and reenforce the alienation between organized class consciousness and the proletariat?

You are porky's brainwashed emissary, pixelbitching over nonissues, and ignoring the tiny number of remaining issues relevant to the modern 1st-world.

They probably blew in from Tumblr or one of the goons' colonial slavepens on leddit

Many of Trump's supporters are aware of his flaws

November 2, 2016 - 03:15

Landon Hughes

Yeah, that's why you're ignoring the diversity among Trump supporters, you holier-than-thou sophist.

November 2, 2016 - 03:16

Elijah Russell

Sure buddy. He'd be losing by double digits if he were running against B████

November 2, 2016 - 03:18

John Walker

First, that doesn't have anything to do with diversity.
Second, that just proves Clinton is perceived as so horrible that even all the constant tabloid scandals about Trump can't ensure her a victory.

November 2, 2016 - 03:27

James Adams

The average prole IS very bigoted. Bigotry is the number one impediment to class conciousness.

Time and time again porky has appealed to the prejudices of the DOMINATE ID class. In the US that would be white people, to thwart leftist movements.

White people dont like to hear that because it means they're going to have to do most of the work of eliminating racism and sexism.

You're the reason the left is shit. Not SJWs. You deny minority proles their own experience. They can't see wage labor oppression. They can see white people in their same workplace with new cars while they struggle to pay rent.

Fuck you go back to arguing about how many angels can dance on the head of a needle. You claim to materially analyis things but it obvious most of you don't even know elementary statisics

November 2, 2016 - 03:27

Andrew Garcia

How does a hypothetical fact disprove reality ?

November 2, 2016 - 03:31

Isaac Jenkins

The people have a right to defend their racial and cultural integrity just as they should defend their economic and political sovereignty.

No one here is denying minorities anything. You're the one giving them a role to play according to your whims and hijacking the observation of the bigger picture.

November 2, 2016 - 03:35

Blake Perry

>>>/reddit/

November 2, 2016 - 03:36

Michael Mitchell

Yes they are. Every white leftists on this board keeps denying there's material sexist and racist oppression. One user said it's non exsistant n the first world. Definitely a widely held belief by pesudo intellectuals that don't ever actually analysis their own prejudices

November 2, 2016 - 03:43

Cooper Campbell

I'm saying you're about as useful as an intellect as medevil scholars that used to actually rte about such things or the church

November 2, 2016 - 03:44

Brayden Wilson

Not user, but I would say the reason the left is dead is that it has become a safeguard of petite-bourgeois "tolerance" against the vulgar masses instead of offering those people an actual leftist opposition to the system that doesn't have to rely on blaming migrants or whatever.

Statistics is always based on ideological categories. I just pull some categories out of my ass and measure them statistically, then write articles about the current state of things. I control several think tanks so I do this over and over again. That's how statistics work. A more concrete example would be how "quality of life" is always defined as basically "banal consumerist and entrepreneurial life", so you then find out that life in neoliberal countries is the best.

November 2, 2016 - 03:45

Anthony Cooper

How do you know the average prole is bigoted? Oh, right, by inferring from things that "das bigoted" is the cheap retort against. Things like opposition to jobs being offshored, to mass economic immigration, to drug addiction, to violent crime, to broken families, to repulsive imagery and sentiments being rammed in their faces, and to people telling them they're evil simply for being themselves. Things that have a variety of other legitimate motives, but of course are ALWAYS really just motivated by "bigotry".

Their experience is the same as vast swathes of the male WASP population, who actually make up THE MAJORITY of poor, of victims and participants of crime, and victims of discrimination, even today.

Their experience is NOT shared, however, with rich celebrities who happen to have fall under the same designated idpol slot, and more of them every day can see through your spooky intersectional smoke and mirrors routine.

Sad to say, without [REDACTED] in the picture, more extreme measures must be resorted to.

November 2, 2016 - 03:49

Aiden Hughes

You're the one who's trying to divide everyone and alienate them by reducing their identities to their genetical background, making it impossible for people of all identities to fight for the same goal.
You're nothing more than a closet fascist.

November 2, 2016 - 03:51

Connor Green

Its real simple. Proles compete with each other for wage labor capital. Proles use tribalism to screw each other over.

Then theortical fuck ups like you come and tell the fucked over proles that they weren't fucked over or that they shouldn't be mad cause we're all proles.

A kindergartener could understand why this strategy wouldn't work.

The real reason leftist ignore it is because they don't want undermine the market advantage white supremacy gives them

November 2, 2016 - 03:53

Connor Cooper

Fuck you. Black people are oppressed by systemic racism. Black people cant opt out of being black.

Pointing out the effect of racism is real even if the abstract of it is not

November 2, 2016 - 03:55

William Adams

...

November 2, 2016 - 03:56

Grayson Martinez

Which ? Where ? By whom ? Klan members from Texas in black and white movies ?

November 2, 2016 - 03:57

Tyler Nguyen

I opened up a history book that's how I know. All these neoliberal policies were voted in by white people angry at the increasing equality minorities were achieving

November 2, 2016 - 03:57

Austin Taylor

>Its real simple. Proles compete with each other for wage labor capital. Proles use tribalism to screw each other over.
WOOOOOOOOOOW

This is barely one step removed from "capitalism is human nature"

November 2, 2016 - 03:57

Wyatt White

The old bu-bu-bu White are poor too. Yeah no shit. Half the people the state kills Are white. Which is why they should be out there with BLM demanding justice too. Instead they're either against BLM and by extension against the reforms they're pushing. Or don't care

November 2, 2016 - 04:00

Ryan Myers

Yeah, no shit. Blacks in Africa voted in favour of people who disappropriated white farmers and it wasn't because they were Communists.
They fell into the same trap as you, just on the other side. The Left wants none of that bullshit.

November 2, 2016 - 04:01

Lincoln Martinez

You saying proles don't compete with each for jobs?

November 2, 2016 - 04:01

Hudson Sullivan

In education. In jail time. Police brutality, housing…

November 2, 2016 - 04:03

Kayden Carter

help me Holla Forums, you're my only hope!

November 2, 2016 - 04:03

Gabriel Reed

Are you fucking serious ? You know BLM is funded by Soros to cause riots which cause poor people both black and white to have their shit destroyed, people of every colour to be hurt and racial tensions increasing, right ? You know Blacks are hurt the most by this and the movement only makes racism grow, right ?

November 2, 2016 - 04:04

Austin Reed

Haha no. Appropriating farms isn't shooting yourself in the foot like supporting neoliberalism is.

November 2, 2016 - 04:05

Logan Ramirez

How is it systematic ? To me it seems like dissenters are the only ones who are sure to face police brutality. Like the Natives protesting the Dakota pipeline. Or the lefties who get mauled here and there regardless of their skin colour. Are they not black enough for your compassion, you racist ?

November 2, 2016 - 04:05

John Allen

...

November 2, 2016 - 04:07

Aaron Robinson

Ok, we get it. Racism exists (although not systematically) and should be fixed.
But what the fuck are you offering other than racial divide and supporting groups that make these things work instead of working on things that would benefit everyone with no discrimination ? Are you just a tool ?

November 2, 2016 - 04:08

Logan Taylor

sure smells racist in here!

November 2, 2016 - 04:09

Julian Campbell

They consistently gets shittier outcomes than whites given the same circumstances.

You guys really need to learn some statisics. This is all back up by numbers.

Yawn the old your a racist for calling me a racists line

November 2, 2016 - 04:09

Parker Ward

I never talked about Jews, I talked about Soros. Your racism is showing.
And yes, glorious uprisings make cops more wary of black people and reinforce prejudices. That's what BLM does.

November 2, 2016 - 04:10

Nathaniel Morales

BLM, you mean "burn down black neighborhoods, vandalize black businesses, ally with black criminals who murder black victims, and ignore porky establishments that are literally a block away, and assassinate police instead of making positive suggestions to improve policing of black crime" BLM?

I'm saying they're not the ones fucking each other over, competition for jobs is businesslike and dispassionate.

Maybe that has more to do with inertia from history when harmful racist acts was actually still legal, and less to do with non-economic conditions today?

If I were a paranoid Holla Forumsack, I'd suspect they're trying to slide the thread, but since I'm not, I know that Holla Forums is the board that always takes the bait.

November 2, 2016 - 04:11

Noah Ross

What a simplistic moron you are.
If statistics are so easy to read, why aren't you bitching about Asians and Jews having it easier than Whites ? Are you gonna say they're part of a big conspiracy against Whites, Blacks and Latinos ?

November 2, 2016 - 04:13

Cameron Young

Blacks were treated as human property. And have consistently had more poverty than whites.

Couldn't have anything to do with racists whites trying to keep blacks as close to their old slave station as possible could it.

Naw they're free and everything is fine. Please ignore Jim Crowe, poll taxes white flight, police brutality the drug war etc etc

November 2, 2016 - 04:13

Angel Williams

The Asians that migrate here generally wealthy and therefore more educated. If your an ignorant poor Asian you are generally stuck in asia

November 2, 2016 - 04:16

Jaxon Scott

*yawn*

November 2, 2016 - 04:16

Gabriel Ward

Bullshit
That Soros meme is from pol

November 2, 2016 - 04:17

Chase Gonzalez

Okay let's just take the drug war. That wasn't racist because…..

November 2, 2016 - 04:18

Isaiah Hall

Sorry, I don't think in memes. Soros exists and is one of the ultimate piggies, I don't turn a blind eye on him just because Holla Forums also hates him. Kill yourself.

November 2, 2016 - 04:18

Charles Turner

racial and cultural integrity don't exist, so no, they don't

November 2, 2016 - 04:18

Nathaniel Lee

He's not behind BLM. You first punk

November 2, 2016 - 04:18

Zachary Watson

It partly was. It also stemmed from blind conservatism.
Rejoice, it's gonna be over soon. If all your idpol shit is based on that single fact, will you shut the fuck up once it's over ? I'm against it as well, like literally all of this board. Why are you bitching, again ?

November 2, 2016 - 04:20

Luke Nguyen

great, so let's not get distracted from ending poverty and police abusing their power in any regard

November 2, 2016 - 04:21

Wyatt Williams

some one hasn't been paying attention to the Clinton/podesta emails

November 2, 2016 - 04:22

Dominic Turner

Didn't the sistas before you fight for your right to educate yourself ? Make them proud.

November 2, 2016 - 04:22

Carson Young

It was completely predicated on racism. Cops enforce drugs laws on blacks at twice the rate of whites.
Prisons are filled mostly with black non violent drug offenders while blacks and whites use drugs at the same rates

You're a good porky bootlickers though. Keep ignoring the plight of your fellow proles

November 2, 2016 - 04:23

Luke Wood

The burden of proof is on you. Porky is trying to co op BLM now but it's completely grassroots as of now

November 2, 2016 - 04:25

Eli Campbell

Irish were slaves, and even after Irish slavery in the US ended, they were viciously discriminated against through a variety of means including segregation.

All ethnicities, even English, initially came to the US under indentured servitude. Even after it was mostly abolished, it was renewed for later groups like the Chinese.

Nearly every later later group, especially Catholics, Jews and pagans, were subject to vicious segregation and discrimination.

I personally fall under nearly every one of these descriptions, but of course that doesn't matter anymore.

Because the majority of its victims are white, just like nearly everything in a majority-white country like the USA. And the overwhelming majority are poor, just like any sort of criminal activity.

November 2, 2016 - 04:25

Adam Butler

I've been following them closely. What e mails

November 2, 2016 - 04:25

Henry Thomas

...

November 2, 2016 - 04:25

Owen Cruz

Karl Marx.

November 2, 2016 - 04:26

Parker Wilson

Please stop. Chattel slavery is completely different. Black slavery lasted for several hundred years.
Were still living with that legacy. Addressing oppression isn't a zero sum game. If Irish people were systemically oppressed I'd oppose that too.

November 2, 2016 - 04:30

Carson Martin

Marx would be called an SJW for being against slavery by dick weeds like you

November 2, 2016 - 04:31

Aaron Powell

What makes you think I support slavery ? My country's southern shores have been raided for centuries by muslim pirates who sold white people on slave markets long before colonization was a thing.
You don't see me trying to hijack left-wing discussions because of it, do you ?

November 2, 2016 - 04:34

Oliver Baker

how about instead of wasting time trying to convince everyone that the drug war is racist, you try to convince people that the drug war is bad policy?

November 2, 2016 - 04:34

Ethan Russell

The shit I'm talking about isn't ancient history. The civil rights act was passed in the 60s. The drug war began in the 70s.

November 2, 2016 - 04:37

Dylan Butler

kek

November 2, 2016 - 04:40

Dominic Foster

Remember MLK wasn't assassinated for his part in the successful civil rights movement, but for his part in attempting to spearhead a campaign against poverty.

Stick a fork in it, it was ancient history decades ago, it's well past time to move on.

November 2, 2016 - 04:41

Luke Richardson

wew

November 2, 2016 - 04:51

Luis Adams

white people can't be systematically oppressed

November 2, 2016 - 04:57

Kevin Phillips

You ignorant son of a bitch. You talk as if the whole wolrd is the USA.

I'm from Greece, here's a brief story of the nation.

And you would think that a nation having been through all that shit would have the complete support of various SJWs around the world, and that Greeks could never be racist.

But it turns out that we are considere "privilleged whites" by SJWs and "degenerated shitskins" by fascists and racists in wester Europe. And if that wasn't enough, there are actually people here that are racist againist Albanians, Bulgarians, Ukranians, people who are certainly considered "whiter" than us. Not to mention the rise of Golden Dawn…

Having said all that, it's obvious that racism, sexism ect exists. But it's not just Blakcs and Latinos that have it bad. And yet, you will keep spouting shit like how ALL the whites have it good and how ALL blacks are underprivilleged. But get it through your fucking skull: In a capitalist world, the capital rules; If you have money, I can assure you that a transgender-black will be more privilleged than the whitest prole.

November 2, 2016 - 05:06

Connor James

I bet you thought it would be really witty to post this on your first day on leftypol, didn't you, newfriend?

November 2, 2016 - 05:12

Luis Morgan

Jesus, guys. I step away for an hour & all Hell breaks loose.

I saw 50+ posts within an hour & thought some big political news happened. Turns out everyone just let some faggot bait them. That poster is ridiculous, so lets not take them seriously. Now genuine news related posts are being pushed out so he can just shitpost.

November 2, 2016 - 05:17

Austin Davis

...

November 2, 2016 - 05:20

Julian Smith

THIS IS THE WORST OF ALL POSSIBLE WORLDS

November 2, 2016 - 05:32

Tyler Hernandez

10/10 Thatcher comic.

November 2, 2016 - 05:34

Chase Collins

it pains me to watch this
where did you find it?

November 2, 2016 - 05:43

Kayden Rodriguez

I mean, SERIOUSLY:

November 2, 2016 - 05:44

Chase Powell

...

November 2, 2016 - 05:45

Matthew Ramirez

It was posted here during the primaries. I liked it so much I uploaded it to my YT channel, too.

November 2, 2016 - 05:46

Camden Gonzalez

gonna be honest I was completely ignorant of this

what other figures and movements do I need to revisit? I'm just remembering some odd character in history - Huey Long - is he of any interest?

November 2, 2016 - 05:56

Camden Green

S-sauce pls?

Would-be American Lenin, helped promote many important socialist causes (alongside more pure but less powerful individuals like Eugene Debs), but also a totalitarian demagogue. A more interesting and obscure figure IMHO (though also a common "babbys first redpill", so you may already know of him) was Smedley Butler.

November 2, 2016 - 06:03

Ryder Torres

Malcolm X was also assassinated for the same reason as MLK. raising class consciousness.

Someone shared a great webm not too long ago, with a black guy from the 50s/60s who was preaching some great anti-capitalism speech. I'll look for it.

I also found a webm here on Holla Forums with Long, but can't find it now. Maybe someone else has it. You can also look it up on YT "Huey Long - The difference between republicans and democrats.

November 2, 2016 - 06:11

Jonathan Watson

The DOOM B e r n i e s were posted here on Holla Forums at the end of the primaries, when it was certain the shit was rigged & Hillary was assuming power. It was a tough time. I don't know which glorious bastard made these, but I have a ton. I'll post more.

November 2, 2016 - 06:13

Jacob Hernandez

...

November 2, 2016 - 06:14

Lucas King

...

November 2, 2016 - 06:15

Robert Martin

whoops

November 2, 2016 - 06:15

Owen Cook

last ones

November 2, 2016 - 06:16

Connor Edwards

hey rebel i made this for u

November 2, 2016 - 06:18

Anthony Ward

Not Rebel, but that's great. :( Saving it.

November 2, 2016 - 06:22

Isaac Evans

you wouldn't want to zip them up and mega them would you?

November 2, 2016 - 06:22

Ryder James

Thanks, I was there too, but I didn't think to d/l them. Much like the 1988 interview video posted above, they are even more horrifying and farcical today.

November 2, 2016 - 06:23

Elijah Morales

What did he mean by this?

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/40401
gpg.com/team/joel-johnson/

November 2, 2016 - 06:30

Samuel Diaz

Fucking lol. Up against the wall.

November 2, 2016 - 06:38

Sebastian Garcia

4shared.com/folder/fqJMspEs/_online.html

This work?

November 2, 2016 - 06:41

Gavin Cruz

I just posted this to r/wikileaks

November 2, 2016 - 06:47

Isaac Cox

noice

November 2, 2016 - 06:53

Ian Reyes

thanks kamerad

November 2, 2016 - 07:00

Jack Parker

Welcome :)

November 2, 2016 - 07:02

Lucas Hughes

Malcolm X was assassinated for calling out the jews.

November 2, 2016 - 07:53

Austin Cook

vault.fbi.gov/hillary-r.-clinton

"BREAKING: Hillary Testimony Documents Leaked by FBI Goes Unnoticed"

November 2, 2016 - 08:36

Hunter Perez

Rolled 6, 4, 4 = 14 (3d6)Rolling, dice will somehow determine the outcome of the elections. Interpret them as you wish.

November 2, 2016 - 09:53

Connor Thompson

Fuck me, there are 14 letters in "Hillary Clinton". The die have spoken.

November 2, 2016 - 09:55

Robert Parker

gambling is a tool of the bourgeoisie to distract and divide the Proletariat

November 2, 2016 - 10:10

Jayden Taylor

What would happen if I used this yugioh card on Hillary and Trump?

What would their ideology be?

November 2, 2016 - 10:11

Brayden Martin

Bill Clinton

November 2, 2016 - 10:16

Isaac Young

Sup Holla Forums you fucking faggots.

November 2, 2016 - 10:21

Dominic Hernandez

...

November 2, 2016 - 10:41

Alexander Nelson

thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/top-lobbyists/302777-top-lobbyists-2016-hired-guns

gpg.com/

Along with Podesta, Hillary is surrounding herself with the top lobbyists & firms in Washington.and let's not forget David fucking Brock, founder of Media Matters & Correct the Record. Brock used to be a "republican hitman" "until the Vince Foster scandal." Seems he's been with Hillary for a long time:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_of_Vince_Foster
See: The Arkansas Project

My disgust grows day by day, concerning Hillary Clinton.

November 2, 2016 - 11:30

Colton Howard

Why did he become such a worthless traitor in June?

November 2, 2016 - 11:51

Eli Sullivan

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/793831278382428164

"DoJ Assistant Attorney Peter Kadzik outed as a mole for Hillary Clinton campaign"

reddit.com/r/WikiLeaks/comments/5aqg51/doj_assistant_attorney_peter_kadzik_outed_as_a/

November 2, 2016 - 11:55

Jordan Diaz

That's the million dollar question, user. I'm guessing he didn't want Clinton, INC. to ruin his political career. He's a reformist, so he wants to keep doing some good within the system.

Honestly, all signs point to him also being threatened with something. The democratic party, all Clinton's powerful players who helped her rig this, would all be coming after him. I know I would genuinely be scared.

I still respect S█████ & am thankful to him, despite it. He got me much more involved in politics & pushed me from a registered democrat to a socialist. He also fucked Hillary royally, during the primaries, by exposing just how dirty she is to many laymen or dem party voters. Just look at how the democrats are falling apart at the seams. Maybe he planned this, knowing she was going to get her way no matter what, but wanted to highlight actual liberal policies & shit on her in the process.

Remember, the #DNCleaks regarding the primaries & how they screwed him over, is what got all of this started. Maybe he secretly laughing about it. Because Hillary's reputation is fucked. She's completely exposed through wikileaks, etc, now. She'll be the only Presidential candidate to ever go into office with a negative approval rating, and over half the country finding her untrustworthy. If she ran unopposed or against a lesser candidate, she wouldn't be having nearly as many issues right now.

I'm loving how the dems & Hillary are falling apart over this shit.

November 2, 2016 - 12:02

Jose Thompson

The Real Martin Luther King:

youtube.com/watch?v=xXFiL6zYGb4

youtube.com/watch?v=js7SIWw7yEE

MLK, Malcolm X, Bobby Lee, Medgar Evers, Fred Hampton, the Black Panthers… the entire civil rights movement has been white washed.

November 2, 2016 - 12:05

Nathan Lewis

twitter.com/paynej247/status/793834872317980673

WEW

November 2, 2016 - 12:05

Grayson Howard

Speaking of Foster, the FBI just released a file about his death.

vault.fbi.gov/vincent-foster/vincent-foster-part-01-of-04/view

Absolute madmen.

November 2, 2016 - 12:36

Kayden Collins

Because he believes supporting Hillary would help more Americans right now than opposing her.

Yeah. They threatened to toss out his contributions to the party platform.

Sanders is making the best out of an awful situation. We know for a fact he has no real fondness for Hillary, but he has political muscle he can use to force her to enact progressive legislation. He can't force Trump to do anything, so he'll be spending a Republican administration bitching on the sidelines while Americans suffer. Out of those two options, you have to go with the one were you have some power.

November 2, 2016 - 12:37

Henry Gray

oh

no

please not that

November 2, 2016 - 12:41

Christian Evans

hnng that Natalie Dormer gif

November 2, 2016 - 12:53

Gabriel Perez

...

November 2, 2016 - 13:02

Austin Cooper

I don't follow US politics much. Whatever happened to that nice Burny fella.

November 2, 2016 - 13:24

Jayden Adams

He's expected to top the polls come election day as a third party.

November 2, 2016 - 13:52

Matthew Hughes

So how do we deal with the rise of fascists that will come with the Trump presidency

November 2, 2016 - 14:45

Adrian Peterson

Someone seriously needs to go to half/pol/ and screencap all the delusional posts and threads like 2012. There is unironically a thread about how Chump will win Cali and Oregon.

November 2, 2016 - 14:48

Cooper Campbell

Forgot to take off my shitpost flag tbh

November 2, 2016 - 14:49

Luke Sanders

Holla Forums is incurable

November 2, 2016 - 14:51

Dominic Ross

I wouldn't really worry about that too much considering Hillary was chosen to be president over a decade ago but got fucked over when the TPTB decided a nigger was a better direction to go in rather than a woman to con the people into thinking change was actually possible and that the person they were voting for was actually different from the 8 years of Bush we had just had. It's her turn and if she didn't get it this time she was going to completely lose her shit and god only knows what kind of beans she would've started spilling just out of spite.

November 2, 2016 - 14:55

Oliver Roberts

Trump is going to win the rust belt, NC and Florida and therefore the election.

His increase in support can be quantified, albeit not through polls.

thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/08/08/the-monster-vote/

November 2, 2016 - 14:58

Mason Cruz

Seems legit.

November 2, 2016 - 15:04

Kayden Peterson

observer.com/2016/11/bernie-sanders-abandons-clinton-in-final-week/

Not sure if legit. does it real?

November 2, 2016 - 15:10

Dylan Green

What is up with the obsession with Saul Alinsky lately?

November 2, 2016 - 15:23

Alexander Morales

Were people actually using the phrase "people of color" unironically in here earlier?

November 2, 2016 - 15:33

Lincoln Gutierrez

Clinton wrote her senior thesis on him. Ol' Sleepytime Ben Carson dropped his name in one of the debates. He even alluded to him being a satanist.

November 2, 2016 - 15:37

Henry Ross

So Hillary = commie now? We did it fams.

November 2, 2016 - 15:44

Ethan Cox

Dumb people love conspiracy theories

November 2, 2016 - 15:50

Logan Scott

Yeah dude. You didn't get the newsletter? We're all anarcho Hoxhaist Posadist Hillites with Nechayevean characteristics now.

November 2, 2016 - 15:53

Caleb Nelson

Fixed, friend :^)

November 2, 2016 - 15:53

Ian Johnson

wow ebin

November 2, 2016 - 16:02

Jaxson Torres

twitter.com/CFR_org/status/793950979150450688

I don't know how to interpret this tweet.

November 2, 2016 - 16:05

Aaron Diaz

continuing with the poll

WHO WILL WIN THE 2016 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION?

strawpoll.me/11555403

November 2, 2016 - 16:05

Brayden Garcia

Left is cuter tbh
Looks like a real human bean.

November 2, 2016 - 16:08

Hunter Bailey

Just flat out disregard every single thing that group says. They are the bad guys.

November 2, 2016 - 16:10

Luis Harris

Yes, I know. I thought they were supporting Hillary. That Tweet doesn't exactly make her look good.

November 2, 2016 - 16:12

Christian Miller

agreed, the right one has a pornish look.

November 2, 2016 - 16:15

Xavier Reyes

I think the "arm Sunnis and Kurds instead of sending US troops" is supposed to make her appear better than Trump (by the implication he'll turn it into Operation Enduring Freedom 2: Electric Boogaloo)

November 2, 2016 - 16:15

Charles White

...

November 2, 2016 - 16:15

Owen James

It's a glowing endorsement. The only difference is Trumps got "boots on the ground" which is the only thing Americans care about. If we don't have grunts kicking down doors the war might as well not exist. Plus Hillary wants to fund Sunni rebels which just means topple Assad something CFR fully supports.

November 2, 2016 - 16:16

Jacob Walker

Is there a good communist candidate in the US to vote for come November 8th? I was looking into Gloria La Riva, but found some of her plans to enact her ideas sort of weak or without much thought.

November 2, 2016 - 16:18

Zachary Jones

Not wanting to send troops into Syria is suppose to make Hillary look better. And in my opinion it honestly does. They're both garbage ass candidates but Trump is honestly more pro-Israel than even Hillary is, and as such, the bigger faggot of the two. That said, neither one of them should be president.

November 2, 2016 - 16:23

Jack Perry

Hillary is the Posadist candidate.

Nuke 'em, Hilldog!

November 2, 2016 - 16:27

Logan Rivera

But I fear death.

November 2, 2016 - 16:29

Connor Lewis

Stop being a faggot. It's inevitable anyways.

November 2, 2016 - 16:30

Nathaniel Hughes

But I'd rather not die right now.

November 2, 2016 - 16:31

Michael Perez

Early in the primaries Trump said that he would be neutral re: Israel, as he said that it was impossible to make any real progress in negotiations if the Palestinians believed the US was implicitly (if not explicitly) on the side of the Israelis.

It's a shame he walked back from that, but unsurprising given how pro-Israel the Republican base is

November 2, 2016 - 16:33

Colton Jenkins

I'm surprised anyone can read "arm non-state actors" and not recoil after all these decades

November 2, 2016 - 16:44

Jayden Foster

...

November 2, 2016 - 16:45

Jose Robinson

I'm surprised people can read about American intervention at any level at all anywhere in the world and not recoil. We need to mind our own fucking business and focus on ourselves.

November 2, 2016 - 16:46

Hunter Wright

Pretty much.

People don't understand how blacks can continue to vote for the Dems even after the Dems have failed so fucking much. Think of it like this: if you were walking through the desert, burning hot, dying of thirst, and one man appeared before you and said, "Here is a cup of water with some spit and dirt in it," and then another man appeared before you and said, "Here is a cup of acid with some nice tasty radiation mixed in," which cup would you drink? The Dems are shit but the Repubs are viewed as cancer.

November 2, 2016 - 16:47

Parker Gutierrez

...

November 2, 2016 - 16:47

Evan Rogers

It's not a conspiracy…

Saul alinsky wrote an incredibly influenced book for liberals and the Democratic Party specifically. At the time many people were on a range from discomfort to disgust with it but it's not a conspiracy to say his design was copied onto the Democratic Party.

November 2, 2016 - 16:49

Justin Thompson

Not an argument.

November 2, 2016 - 16:51

James Lee

Why would the Democrats do anything beyond the bare minimum for blacks?

They're in the same position as evangelicals in the Republican party, i.e. they're a captive demographic that's going to vote for your party anyway, so outside some minor pandering there's no real need to care about their interests

November 2, 2016 - 16:52

Carson Edwards

(just bumping some US radicals)

November 2, 2016 - 16:52

Evan Reed

I wasn't arguing.

November 2, 2016 - 16:53

Aaron Ramirez

The neocons or "neo cohens" or "neo cucks" as pol calls them dont care about white nationalism, its all a show, all they care about is making more money and sucking israels dick, all the dog whistles were just a show to get out the vote, the mainstream GOP has no intention to do anything other than work for big business, and what does big business want?
More immigrants, outsourcing.

The democrats on the other hand are a corrupt establishment who also works for the oligarchy and they toss the SJW'S some idpol every now and then to keep them complacent, but nothing actually changes.

November 2, 2016 - 16:54

Charles Murphy

...

November 2, 2016 - 16:54

Joshua Williams

But liberals are anything but radicals.

November 2, 2016 - 16:54

Ian Edwards

...

November 2, 2016 - 16:55

Hunter Richardson

...

November 2, 2016 - 16:55

Henry Garcia

...

November 2, 2016 - 16:56

Easton Flores

Alinsky is not who he seems. There is a CIA connection if you dig deep enough.

November 2, 2016 - 16:56

Luke Barnes

The conspiracy is that his Dem fans, like Hillary, are secret commies following a plan laid out by Alinsky to turn the country socialist.

November 2, 2016 - 16:57

Luke Mitchell

I really wish Abbey would work on that smug tone of hers.

November 2, 2016 - 16:58

Daniel Cruz

I actually think that in the next 10 to 15 years we are going to see the rise of a third party, trump and S█████ proved you dont need money ( S█████ donation online) or the media ( trump pretty much cucked the entire media hard).
A third party that used their tactics, took advantage of the internet, used meme's and had a perfect candidate.
You can see something like that happening

November 2, 2016 - 16:58

Nolan Thompson

...

November 2, 2016 - 16:58

Chase Gonzalez

Agreed. It's one of the problems of the politics of fear. You're voting *against* something instead of *for* something. Blacks don't vote *for* Dems as much as against Repubs. But that oneitis/fear lets the Dems know we won't go anywhere, therefore they can take us for granted. I believe it was Bruce Dixon from BlackAgendaReport who said that blacks should just all vote Green. All I say is, as I get older, I appreciate having as many options as possible, and black people really need to start exercising all of our political options.

November 2, 2016 - 16:59

Noah Wood

New polls are showing Trump may actually be able to win Virginia.

November 2, 2016 - 17:17

Lucas Cruz

Well, under a black democratic president, black people still face racism and police violence, so under a republican, they would face, racism and police violence.
At least theoretically, republicans are supposed to lower taxes.

This message brought to you by the party of Lincoln.

As i recall, Malcolm x would call out white liberals as being the people who are nice to your face but then stab you in the back.
And that is why his birthday is not a holiday.

November 2, 2016 - 17:20

Tyler Perez

Intredasting.

November 2, 2016 - 17:31

Leo Evans

I'm amazed how much money goes to TV ads. It's the number one expense among presidential campaigns - way more than travel. Even more than staff. It's really hard to believe TV ads were historically so important and it speaks to how much the campaign comes down to marketing. Obama's campaign in 2008 won awards for their effective marketing.

TV is losing influence on the country in general thanks to the internet. We're now starting to see the broader effects of this. Trump spent very little on TV ads. He barely even hired consultants.

CTR was an experiment and I think it's only the beginning of the type of stuff we'll see in the next election.

November 2, 2016 - 18:01

William Johnson

I wish I bookmarked the posts on another site that mentioned this, but it's because there's practically an entire industry/racket built around "political/campaign consulting". That's where most of the money from the donors gets dumped. If the ads boost turnout, they claim the credit, and if they have no impact (i.e. Jeb's "Boots" ad against Marco) they say you need to pay them more.

youtube.com/watch?v=lXMWW3WhG0g

youtube.com/watch?v=lxQw0VoT538

I think that's why a lot of Republican "political/campaign consultants" were so pissed with Trump, because he didn't bother (or couldn't afford) to throw money at them

November 2, 2016 - 18:08

Ayden Morris

...

November 2, 2016 - 18:15

Joshua Green

Lol how old are you.
Viral marketing, astro turfing, and online armies existed before this election.

china

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Water_Army

Russia

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolls_from_Olgino

America

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_Strategic_Counterterrorism_Communications

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Earnest_Voice

November 2, 2016 - 18:46

Jason Jenkins

Did those memelords use a 360 kid edit from /int/? Kek

November 2, 2016 - 18:46

Jason Rogers

Fox just broke news about FBI informants telling them that an indictment in regards to the CF investigation is "likely" and they know with 99% certainty that Hillary's server was hacked by at least 5 different foreign intelligence agencies.

November 2, 2016 - 18:50

Kayden Long

If trump wins i think this video pretty much sums up this entire election.

youtube.com/watch?v=5yyxaT8M15Q

November 2, 2016 - 19:01

Levi White

please no

November 2, 2016 - 19:03

Michael Flores

Let me guess Nazbols? Stirnirists? "anarcho" communists.

Any sane minded non schizophrenic person would realize that Hillary is the better choice

Not an argument

November 2, 2016 - 19:04

Colton Long

Are you pretending to be retarded on purpose? You best not be.

Wait until they say she didn't have an SSL certificate when she was using it on her China visit.

November 2, 2016 - 19:04

Lincoln Garcia

Obama moved Malaysia off the human rights abuse list (they are one of the top countries for human trafficking) so he could curry favor with them to pass TPP. Huge news which will go ignored by mainstream media.

November 2, 2016 - 19:07

Kevin Diaz

Likely with removal from committees since he caucuses with the Democrats. Some people think his family was threatened, but a threat to remove him from his committees was probably sufficient.

November 2, 2016 - 19:13

Eli Torres

...

November 2, 2016 - 19:15

Noah Allen

The nihilist in me wants it to happen so I can bask in the schadenfreude for a few days, but then again, Trump winning would be absolutely devastating for whatever remains of the left in the US.

November 2, 2016 - 19:17

Evan Wright

I am considering the idea that he's trying to minimize the damage. If he didn't back Clinton, then MSM would mercilessly shit on him and Trump's victory(very likely in such scenario due to split vote) would result in media murdering S█████ for pulling out a Nader. However, backing the lizardwoman gives S█████ a weapon against demoshits in case of Clinton's failure, after all he endorsed her, he campaigned for her cause and still, she could not win. He could practically start a smear campaign against the libshit establishment from day one and there would be no decent counter-argument they could use since he has done his job as expected.

November 2, 2016 - 19:21

Noah Martin

I don't want any of it. I'd like the left to, y'know, continue existing in the US

November 2, 2016 - 19:30

Adam Clark

Well I wouldn't go that far. That's pushing it a little. Now, I advocate for Clinton and am terrified of Trump but some good could come out of it for the left. Here's two good things.

#1: The left learns from the mistakes they made during this election from Trumps horrible reactionary policies. This causes a complete BTFO of him in 2020

#2: Trump turns America into a third world shithole accept with an even bigger elite than we have now in this country. This causes the people to get him impeached later on.

This could be a nice wake up call to the left. Maybe next time instead of talking about manspreading and Caitlin Jenner to actually fighting and standing up for important issues.

Also wikileaks needs to learn how to release data BEFORE the primary not after it. Assange is an idiot. We could be having B████ right now but instead Assange screwed everything up and let a fascist become president.

Good Job Assange, you're a real hero.

November 2, 2016 - 19:33

Austin Wilson

I don't think anyone can take "human rights" seriously after Saudi Arabia of all places finagled a seat on the UN Human Rights Council

Because the Clinton campaign and Hillary herself are in their own bubble. I mean for fuck's sake, we're talking about a candidate that couldn't understand why she should cancel a speech to representatives of Wall Street after her main rival in the primaries had just blasted Wall Street.

It's a toss-up whether she's just autistically disconnected from the concerns of the plebs, or she's just that grasping, venal and power-hungry

November 2, 2016 - 19:38

Luis Long

1 other thing that could help the left in the event of a Trump presidency would be the feelings of betrayal all these neo-right wingers would have once Trump fails to live up to all of his promises, especially in regards to his wall that will absolutely not be built. It will be like all the lefties that lost faith in the system after Obama failed to live up to all of his promises.

And even if they decide to ignore the truth and just pretend like the wall was never meant to be a literal wall, but instead was suppose to be just a figure of speech for tightened immigration it will still make for quality shit posting over on Holla Forums.

Not that he's going to get elected anyways.

November 2, 2016 - 19:40

Xavier Jenkins

Wait, why is Holla Forums rooting for Hillary? She has a long trail of dead bodies on her political career and is just as much of a warmonger as Trump if not moreso because of her cold, calculating "the world is a chessboard" mentality.

Either way, the states are fucked. Crony capitalist corporatism still wins the day, war profiteering will be booming, the country will move farther right just like europe, nationalist exceptionalism will prevail and liberal SJWs will still be the common definition of leftism.

Just be like me. I didn't vote. There was nothing to vote for.

November 2, 2016 - 19:42

Nathan Morgan

kys

November 2, 2016 - 19:42

Andrew Diaz

If he does win, we have some small hope that the right loses the Senate and American politics hits yet another deadlock for 4 years

November 2, 2016 - 19:43

Brayden Watson

Pol has been coming over for months false flagging as devout Clinton supporters, so when they started to come in begging for Trump votes to stop nuclear war they got stonewalled with Posada memes.

November 2, 2016 - 19:45

Justin Rodriguez

Don't be silly, it's one or two faggots who think the bourgeois puppets are different because they have different voter bases they must pander to.

November 2, 2016 - 19:45

Nathan Perry

Based on her past, I'd definitely think the latter.

November 2, 2016 - 19:45

Xavier Garcia

No one is rooting for her. Just laying out hypotheticals. Regardless, the left is fucked no matter who wins.

November 2, 2016 - 19:45

Isaac Davis

Shitposting flag, forgot it.

November 2, 2016 - 19:46

Robert Hill

Newfag

November 2, 2016 - 19:46

Ayden Thomas

What's a new fag? We don't believe in homophobia here :^)

November 2, 2016 - 19:48

Adrian Carter

You're not smart by hiding your retardation behind a veil of low-effort shitposting

November 2, 2016 - 19:50

Colton Johnson

Sure is spooky up in here. Whether or not you suck the dick has no bearing on your status of faggotry.

November 2, 2016 - 19:50

Daniel Hernandez

...

November 2, 2016 - 19:52

Thomas Robinson

And what do you think about ?

November 2, 2016 - 19:52

Wyatt Cruz

Oh I never doubted this

November 2, 2016 - 19:54

Nolan Edwards

Their butthurt was glorious. I'm still amazed that the most stupid memes are the most effective.

November 2, 2016 - 19:55

Elijah Cooper

I mean, it's possible that once her presidency gets exceedingly bad (open conflict with Russia, privatizing social security, etc.) that he will become a thorn in her side, but it's not going to convince any of her supporters, so I'm not sure what good it's gonna do.

November 2, 2016 - 19:55

Ayden Perez

You're not smart being a whiny faggot over two slashes. On a phone it takes three times the keypresses to write the same thing and preserve your feefees.

Stop replying to shitposts!

November 2, 2016 - 19:58

Carter Lee

Regardless I'm certain a brave comedian willing to commit career suicide could make a great American version of The Thick Of It out of her campaign

November 2, 2016 - 19:58

Brayden Hall

And if Trump wins? S█████ will be able to attack her without any counters since the appeals to Democrat unity under centrist leadership won't work if Clinton fails.

November 2, 2016 - 20:00

Carson Bailey

He'll be focusing on Trump. Plus his supporters will be public enemy number one according to the liberal media. The will bear all the blame for Trump winning.

November 2, 2016 - 20:04

Dominic Russell

I think Clintonista-Posadism could be our greatest takeaway from her victory. I sort of want Trump to win as I'm not American and see more long term benefits to the left with him in power rather than Clinton, but nuclear and alien powered meme magic would cause some classic meltdowns (geddit?) after all these months of hubris.

Didn't they already try to launch one of those or am I thinking of something else?

November 2, 2016 - 20:05

John Wilson

GARRY JOHNSON EVERYONE
libertarians btfo

November 2, 2016 - 20:06

Jacob Sanders

The Campaign with Will Ferrell might be what you're thinking of.

November 2, 2016 - 20:07

Austin Flores

Fuck is that heart attack thing true? I just smoked and now I'm paranoid

November 2, 2016 - 20:08

Thomas Nguyen

Weed increases your heart rate. If you have a really bad/weak heart, you shouldn't smoke weed or do other stuff that increases your heart rate, like jogging a lot.

November 2, 2016 - 20:10

Ryder Cook

Have you ever seen anyone keel over from a heart attack while smoking weed? Protip-No, you haven't.

Absolutely disgusting.

November 2, 2016 - 20:11

Jose Mitchell

i've got a decent collection of delusional halfpol posts i can share if someone's making a collage

although it's unclear how many posts are actually serious, because i funpost with pic related map sometimes

November 2, 2016 - 20:16

Ian Thomas

It's like pottery

November 2, 2016 - 20:21

Parker Bell

I'm tearing my hair out over that

November 2, 2016 - 20:24

Tyler Kelly

Stop talking about the cubs. Baseball is bourgeois.

November 2, 2016 - 20:27

Benjamin Lee

Stein was pulling over twice what Nader ever got back in the summer. Expect them to bash the Greens even harder than before.

November 2, 2016 - 20:33

Owen Ortiz

That wasn't his call. It was the leakers that took so long to get the leaks to him.

November 2, 2016 - 20:34

William Rogers

Well they're shit leakers. He should fire them.

November 2, 2016 - 20:36

Mason Walker

You live in one of the three states that won't count a Jill Stein write-in?

November 2, 2016 - 20:36

James Clark

Is this Holla Forums or isn't it? Put on your dialectical materialism hats already. The left didn't return because of one man who had a dream. It returned because the 2008 recession was the worst collapse of capitalism outside the Great Depression and they bailed out the crooks who made it happen while the recovery hasn't been their for those outside the top 10%. We have another recession in the pipeline coming next year according to Bank of America and Goldman Sachs a few weeks ago. Do you think real leftist thought and organization will so easily be cowed into silence by another neoliberal porky tool? In two years I expect a more determined and organized Left than has been seen in a long time. I count myself among the activated.

November 2, 2016 - 20:41

Noah Moore

The left has become so lazy its pathetic. I think its due to the republicans making fools of themselves and being distouched with the population for the last eight years.

November 2, 2016 - 20:44

Daniel Butler

Who is this from? Sort of startling to see someone speak so candidly about this issue.

November 2, 2016 - 20:44

Anthony Anderson

I honestly pay so little attention to American politics now that S█████ is out of the picture, I figured this "Jill Stein" everyone was talking about was either a senator, congresswoman or a political candidate in another country.

Fug.

November 2, 2016 - 20:51

Noah Lopez

We should get Muke to run for president

November 2, 2016 - 21:29

Hudson Carter

Thanks, user!

November 2, 2016 - 21:32

Leo Sullivan

this tbqh

November 2, 2016 - 21:42

Benjamin Stewart

Good stuff

November 2, 2016 - 21:42

Daniel Green

...

November 2, 2016 - 22:20

Mason Watson

I've heard B████ left Shillery's campaign. is this true?

November 2, 2016 - 22:47

Connor Edwards

DUDE, YOU'RE GOING TO DIE, DUDE

November 2, 2016 - 22:53

Cameron Garcia

Ok, I can see why the retard is appealing to some. He's definitely a meme candidate who gets people only starting to wake up to the conditions of the US. He's funny.

That lady.. My God. Johnson should've just used a cohesive argument how the science is against what she's saying, and no one gives a fuck about her kids/the chillums. It's the parent's responsibility to watch their children, and alcohol, cigarettes are far more dangerous for your heart, but completely legal & regularly used. This lady is stuck in a time warp from the 60s. Poor lady.

November 2, 2016 - 22:57

Carson Smith

Oh, and those people clapping need to be gassed.

November 2, 2016 - 22:59

Matthew Richardson

Damn, dude..

I guess you're not American then, so you are forgiven. A lot of Americans don't even know who she is, it's goddamn embarrassing.

November 2, 2016 - 23:03

Nathaniel Martinez

No, Muke. :^)

November 2, 2016 - 23:04

Hunter Clark

...

November 2, 2016 - 23:11

Josiah Long

Seems so. I read that Observer article you posted, too. Now would be the time for him to do so.

Hillary's likely already got the rigging down, so now he's moving onto help keep her "accountable". Bless his reformist heart. If that's what it comes to, I hope we're successful in doing so. I just don't even know what's going on right now.

There's talk of the FBI's Clinton Foundation investigation being ramped up. And the email shit is haunting her; rightfully so.

I dunno, man. But good for S█████, for trying to make the best of a horrible situation. I still love the guy, and the good he's done in the past should not be forgotten.

November 2, 2016 - 23:16

Aiden Powell

I came back here after months just to say

leftypol I'm scared about our future and I need a hug

November 2, 2016 - 23:37

Oliver Lopez

Sorry only brocialists get hugs.

November 2, 2016 - 23:42

Aaron Wood

Shut up and hug me

November 2, 2016 - 23:43

Levi Lopez

Please? :(

November 2, 2016 - 23:45

Lucas Richardson

I'll hug you, AnFem :3

November 2, 2016 - 23:48

Bentley Robinson

Me too

November 2, 2016 - 23:49

Aaron Martin

Thanks guys.

November 2, 2016 - 23:49

Adam Stewart

The populist wave born out of recession discontent in 2008 was Occupy on the left, Tea Party on the right, both were an incoherent mess that barely amounted to a hill of beans at their apex, and vanished with nary a ripple soon after.

The return of populism in 2016 was indeed caused by great men. S█████ and Trump focused popular passion and rage directly on a narrow band of issues, formed the kernel of rigorously disciplined organizations, and not only pushed it into the spotlight of public debate by basing political campaigns off it, but by doing so actually managed to keep it there.

To be sure, both of them acted merely as the catalyst for their movements, taking advantage of preexisting tensions, and neither S█████ nor Trump could've possibly predicted their level of success, but without them it would've been just as disorganized and inept as before. Indeed, as demonstrated by the rapid cleavage of S█████' devotees from the man himself after he sacrificed his ideological purity to work inside the establishment, this populism is now an untamable force weaned from any single point of failure, but S█████ and Trump were essential to their formative period.

Here's a sweet hug, a group hug with everyone.

November 2, 2016 - 23:52

Ryder Nguyen

Fucking, I was being genuine about wanting a hug and you have to make it all about yourself and say you want me dead.

Typical men ugh

:v)

November 2, 2016 - 23:53

Jordan Nguyen

Here's a hug for you, too.

This will all be over, soon.

November 3, 2016 - 00:05

Julian Thomas

...

November 3, 2016 - 00:24

Camden Harris

PANTSUITS AND MUSHROOM CLOUDS

November 3, 2016 - 00:25

Gavin Davis

I will be that loser sitting in front of the window gazing into your reflection hugging each other while crying at the though of socialism being here and now.

November 3, 2016 - 00:39

Dylan Cox

you're assumming that his support are rational intelligent peple that won't blame minorities for their failure like they already do.

Trump will simply blame Mexicans or whatever minorities, and his fanboys will agree.
this is how facism start and how it ends.

a facist leader never leave peacefully, it always takes down the whole country with him.

November 3, 2016 - 01:18

Henry Martinez

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November 3, 2016 - 01:24

Evan Wood

Oh shit, haven't seen you a while anfem. Good to know you're still alive.

November 3, 2016 - 05:45

Kevin Young

funnyordie.com/videos/78d58b5918/sensual-pantsuit-anthem-music-video-with-lena-dunham

November 3, 2016 - 07:10

Jackson Stewart

Should I early vote tomorrow? On one hand the early voting location is a 45 min drive away and on the other I don't want to have to deal with Trump's "poll watchers" on the 8th, especially since the state supreme court threw out a law requiring you to show a birth certificate to vote which has really fired up the Trumpets and other reactionaries.

November 3, 2016 - 08:18

Robert Hill

MAGA

I'll be voting Trump!

November 3, 2016 - 08:50

Connor Rogers

really hope you voting for Stein

November 3, 2016 - 08:54

Andrew Ortiz

Please explain. Is it even legal for people to loiter around polling stations?

November 3, 2016 - 09:02

Hunter Bennett

Just do it, it's easy, and quick. If you have to give a reason why you're doing it absentee, just put religious activities, they can't touch that. It really is a better experience. The only downside is that you really need to know who you're voting for, because once you do it, you did it, and for the most part, it's done at that point.

November 3, 2016 - 09:48

Gavin Jenkins

As they should, this isn't the time for a protest vote.

If Trump and the republicans win this, it will lead to a resurgence of hatred of women and racism already greater than that of which we are seeing in Trump's campaign.

November 3, 2016 - 10:00

Gavin Price

They paying you CTR overtime?

November 3, 2016 - 10:04

John Baker

How so? S█████ told them to vote for Posadary, so one could claim it's fault of the liberals

November 3, 2016 - 10:05

Nathaniel Wood

Calm the fuck down you redditard sissy, it's not 1933

November 3, 2016 - 10:07

Zachary Davis

These are literally CTR talking points. A better criticism of Trump is that Pence will likely be de facto president so it will be almost as bad as Hillary. Protest vote or protest non-vote is the only option.

November 3, 2016 - 10:08

James Ortiz

lolno

November 3, 2016 - 10:09

Owen Lee

K…

November 3, 2016 - 10:09

Parker Carter

The big issue of a Trump victory for a lot of people isn't so much political, since Trump would be restrained by Congress and the Supreme Court. The issue is that his supporters would be galvanized, and the more extreme ones (KKK, Nazi, TradYouth, etc) would feel like they had a blank check to go out and do whatever they want.

November 3, 2016 - 10:11

Andrew Gutierrez

...

November 3, 2016 - 10:16

Ryder Miller

That's a bit too hyperbolic, user.

November 3, 2016 - 10:21

Austin Martin

And it would produce a massive backlash against him too.

November 3, 2016 - 10:22

Camden Ward

Which would do what? Hurt his chances for re-election? What about the 3 years leading up to it?

November 3, 2016 - 10:23

Brandon Morgan

…and then we would bash them. Well, not me because I'm not American.

November 3, 2016 - 10:23

Evan Turner

thanks for telling us
we all wanted to know

November 3, 2016 - 10:25

Connor Ross

...

November 3, 2016 - 10:26

Lucas King

You know what? Just thinking about it, and I think Hillary losing would be better for the left. If Trump won, it would mobilize the left for more activism. And with Hillary losing, we'd get to tell them all that "we fucking told you so; she's a terrible, illiberal candidate".

But judging from the rigging job done in the primaries & all the powerful friends she has, I'm guessing she'll win.

Again, whoever wins, we lose. Just trying to think of how it will be if either wins. I just voted Stein, btw.

November 3, 2016 - 10:27

Gavin Gutierrez

Democrats are worse, because they do the same shit against the working calls as the republicans, but with a smile. At least with the conservatives they hate us openly, so they can;t get away with as much.

November 3, 2016 - 10:30

Aiden Sanchez

Hello M'good gentlesirs, *tips fedora in your general direction* I'm your typical Alt Righter/Trump supporter. Oh excuse me for a moment

Sorry about that shes a cunt. Anyways I support Trump because I hate the spics, Trump is going to build a wall to keep them out. They're all lazy fuckers who only work minimum wage jobs. They don't know the real value of hard work. They come here illegally and expect handouts. They're also woman hateric and cuck rapists helbent on cucking everyone. *tears open autismbux check from envelope* Idk why feminists support them over guys like me

Oh excuse me again.

Anyways, These mexicans have a plot with the illuminati to cuck white beta males out of pure aryan virgin gfs. They're really trying to turn us all into cucks. I downloaded 18 million cuckhold porn videos so that I can fight liberal numale betacucks on the internet who oppose my one true ideology. I also masturbate to these cuck porn videos BUT IT'S TOTALLY NOT A FETISH GUYS

*unsheaths anime katana* I have a katana collection so that one day I can assist in the Nazi day of the rope. Hitler would view me as a true hero and give me a medal if I were alive. Even though I have brown hair and weigh 300 lbs which is exactly what hitler hated. I'm a proud Nazi!

Well I gotta go fap to some chinese cartoons now and harass that bitch on facebook who totally deserves it and totally not because I'm a creepy sociopath. All women are whores and she deserves it!

November 3, 2016 - 10:31

Carter Miller

t. Malcolm X

November 3, 2016 - 10:31

Colton Torres

...

November 3, 2016 - 10:35

Chase Adams

Coupled with Clinton's failure? It gives the left an opportunity to wage a war against the libshits since their appeals to maintain this centrist "united front" against republicans lose their charm.

November 3, 2016 - 10:35

Tyler Nelson

Yeah, this is historically obvious. Every thing a republican president couldn't politically afford to do - his democrat successor did it with ease.
We already know that in practice Hillary is one of the most extreme republicans ever.

November 3, 2016 - 10:36

Adrian Taylor

The scariest thing is that somebody thought this was funny enough to spend time writing it.

November 3, 2016 - 10:37

Camden Clark

class*

was typing in a hurry

November 3, 2016 - 10:40

Gavin Carter

see you on the barricades, comrade

November 3, 2016 - 10:44

Asher Jones

...

November 3, 2016 - 10:46

Grayson Moore

and outsource the leaking business to India

November 3, 2016 - 10:46

Luis Wilson

t. Sus scrofa domesticus

November 3, 2016 - 10:47

Andrew Collins

...

November 3, 2016 - 10:48

Julian Butler

Clinton isn't left

November 3, 2016 - 10:49

Nolan Davis

...

November 3, 2016 - 10:50

Caleb Cooper

You're looking for /centerpol/ or /statusquo/
Bye!

November 3, 2016 - 10:51

David Morris

This better be satire.

November 3, 2016 - 10:51

Benjamin Evans

...

November 3, 2016 - 10:52

Tyler Garcia

low quality bait, tbh

November 3, 2016 - 10:54

Zachary Long

Are we being raided by faggots again?

November 3, 2016 - 10:55

Jace Allen

All I hear is: "We need cheap labor in the prison complex, so prz keep mary illegal, thx"

November 3, 2016 - 10:55

Julian Mitchell

Yes. There's a group of 13-15 year old Trumpcucks that are trying everything possible to not get anyone to vote for Clinton so that it will benefit their kosher approved meme candidate.

November 3, 2016 - 10:57

Cooper Price

Ironic shilling is still shilling

November 3, 2016 - 10:59

Julian Wilson

Shitting up the thread tbh

November 3, 2016 - 11:00

Hunter Butler

She doesn't even fit the American Newspeak definition, so your shilling becomes extra pathetic.

I'll try to improve it with some mr Mcoony.

November 3, 2016 - 11:04

Caleb Walker

twitter.com/Channel4News/status/794232437337247744

Our boy Slavoj saying he would vote for Trump. What do you think of it?

November 3, 2016 - 12:04

Brayden Nguyen

Try to be a little less obvious.

November 3, 2016 - 12:06

Oliver Gutierrez

His ticks are getting worse.

November 3, 2016 - 12:07

Jonathan Russell

wew

November 3, 2016 - 12:13

Tyler Sanders

?

November 3, 2016 - 12:15

Cooper Barnes

Hope this is pasta lad

Are we being raided by reddit? Because sure it smells like /r/socialism and /r/politics around here. No one who calls themselves socialist would vote for Clinton. It's either Stein or staying at home

November 3, 2016 - 12:20

Cooper Lopez

What should I do with my $1,500 payout when Trump wins?

November 3, 2016 - 12:23

Connor Moore

Buy ammo, shoot school, blame it on liberals

November 3, 2016 - 12:24

Jordan Jenkins

start the commune

November 3, 2016 - 12:24

Owen Harris

GOING NUCLEAR

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/794257681901096960

November 3, 2016 - 12:29

Jaxon Allen

Jesus Christ. You guys are too retarded to even remember what board you're shilling your kike loving candidate on.

November 3, 2016 - 12:30

Lucas Lopez

Donald Trump candidacy, here we come

November 3, 2016 - 12:31

Caleb Gutierrez

?

November 3, 2016 - 12:32

Dominic Jackson

Which state

November 3, 2016 - 12:32

Noah Jones

I'm glad he said it, but I'm not surprised at all. Zizek is known for confronting hard truths.
I'm not a burger either, but if I was I would probably be voting Trump as well. On the other hand if I was a burger I would probably be too spooked by the whole spectacle to even consider how Trump compares to Clinton from a strategic point.

November 3, 2016 - 12:34

Isaac Bailey

Georgia

November 3, 2016 - 12:43

Tyler Flores

Fuck, I meant presidency

November 3, 2016 - 12:44

Brandon Howard

Please let Clinton be a historical super villain.

November 3, 2016 - 12:45

David Allen

this election has been batshit crazy, it's like a fucking anime plot

November 3, 2016 - 12:51

Aaron Wright

It's a pretty big mistake, IMO. Hillary committed heinous crimes in Haiti, Libya and Honduras which are all verifiable and punishable without bringing in crackpot theories about a global pedophile ring (theories which, I might add, originate from and are propagated by unhinged reactionaries). Such theories really only harm the cause against Hillary. In fact, one wonders if said theories aren't actually just an elaborate CTR gaslighting campaign. I digress.

November 3, 2016 - 12:58

Blake Williams

...

November 3, 2016 - 13:04

Jackson Jenkins

There's no coherent plot at all, that's why this election is crazy. And in the age where politicians are mere accomplices of the system it's impossible for a person to be a super-villain. Today power is dispersed, it's not in the hands of a single person - even a complete retard knows this on some level. She's not a dictator, she's a corrupt war profiteer working for the banks like sooooo many others. Because the system is made for it.
Making her into a super villain only benefits the system. "We only need to get rid of the witch and things will be much better!"

November 3, 2016 - 13:05

Christian Peterson

No, I'm American. I just thought at this point it was only Trump or Hillary, so I stopped paying attention. I don't think she'll have a chance, but I'll vote for her just to say I didn't choose the options Porky gave me.

November 3, 2016 - 13:08

Adrian Nguyen

Fuck that chick. Nowadays, if someone uses that line, more than likely they're an idiot.

I hate that they've corrupted the word "privilege". It used to mean actual p r i v e l e g e

November 3, 2016 - 13:11

Nicholas Reyes

theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/03/fbi-leaks-hillary-clinton-james-comey-donald-trump
archive.is/jjGSi
'The FBI is Trumpland': anti-Clinton atmosphere spurred leaks, sources say

D-D-D-DAMAGE CONTROL

November 3, 2016 - 13:16

Nathan Lewis

Or they're anti-Clinton narratives being pencil pushed by astrotrufers on media sites to the level of pressure required to vilify the president elect to the commons.

November 3, 2016 - 13:17

Elijah Rogers

to apply the level of pressure*

November 3, 2016 - 13:17

Eli Cook

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/794247777756860417

Um.. wtf?

November 3, 2016 - 13:19

Cameron Sanders

A living, breathing, Shakespearean villain. Of the same order of Richard The Third, or Edmund, not some fantastical SuperNazi.

November 3, 2016 - 13:20

Xavier Anderson

I mailed my ballot for Stein some days back, from overseas. She was actually on my ballot in Kentucky. I was very surprised about that. We're not known as the most progressive state.

November 3, 2016 - 13:21

David Foster

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/794272236073058305

wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/?special&q=&mfrom=&mto=&title=¬itle=&date_from=&date_to=&nofrom=¬o=&count=50&sort=6#searchresult

GET'EM WHILE THEY'RE HOT!

November 3, 2016 - 13:24

Hunter Gomez

I think Hillary's doing that just fine, all on her own. Even many Clinton supporters now start out saying, "she's not the best", or "I know there are a lot of questions about her", etc. Pretty funny.

November 3, 2016 - 13:25

Zachary Moore

Donald Trump 'might actually make the world safer' if he is elected president, says former head of UK Armed Forces
archive.fo/TEfrZ

November 3, 2016 - 13:29

Jaxon Torres

You know I really hope I'm wrong about Trump. Maybe this was all an act and i'll still be able to leave my house without being shot by a redneck calling me a commie if he's elected.

November 3, 2016 - 13:32

Ethan Ward

Glad I could help.

November 3, 2016 - 13:33

Andrew Rogers

Seems like a pretty irrational fear to have, imo. I think conservatives care more about muh jobs & muh second amendment than commies.

November 3, 2016 - 13:36

Easton Smith

TBH I sorta feel the same way. The only thing I'm worried about at this point is climate change. The comments of course are fucking cringe-tacular though.

I worry about that too.

Maybe rednecks will soon be REDnecks?

November 3, 2016 - 13:41

Parker Thompson

They censored a thread exposing Clinton as a racist.

8ch.net/leftypol/res/1018655.html

twitter.com/hillarysracism

November 3, 2016 - 13:43

Adam Evans

I'm sure the rest of us around the world will appreciate having the first female world dictator. I'm already looking forward to it.

November 3, 2016 - 13:48

James Jackson

If Trump wins there will be a massively exaggerated 'explosion' of 'hate crime', just like there was in Britain after the referendum. It will go unnoticed by everyone except hysterical liberals.

November 3, 2016 - 13:48

Gabriel Diaz

You can get drafted and fight more wars for Je..Israel if Clinton is elected.

Kill millions more.

November 3, 2016 - 13:49

Mason Collins

It's a justified fear but, assuming that it isn't all ogre anyway, Clinton would only apply cosmetic changes.

November 3, 2016 - 13:50

Ryan Ortiz

Could you fuck off to twitter already?

November 3, 2016 - 13:52

Austin Ross

Zizek would vote Trump

November 3, 2016 - 13:52

Jeremiah Thompson

sauce on that vid?

November 3, 2016 - 14:02

Logan Bailey

...

November 3, 2016 - 14:03

Asher Turner

noice

papa zikek continues to be the most woke man in the world

November 3, 2016 - 14:04

Jaxon Ross

The Z man is right here
neoliberal all inclusive capitalism is a lot harder to fight then the mustache twirling scumbag capitalism Trump represents

November 3, 2016 - 14:04

Owen Gonzalez

oh and just to clarify I'm not shilling for Trump here, I'm just saying that Clinton would be worse for the left in America

November 3, 2016 - 14:06

John Thomas

Fucking this.

November 3, 2016 - 14:07

Leo Taylor

But Trump is the one that wants to actually send troops to Syria. Clinton just wants to equip and use the rebels that are already there.

November 3, 2016 - 14:07

Jaxon Ward

M-muh geoengineering doe!

I guess I can only hope we live longer then a decade.

No shit Sherlock. Pol willl eventually be BTFO again and the Aut-right may be deflated if there's enough failure. The only ex-factor is the SJW crybabies. Hopefully they will eventually be defunded.

November 3, 2016 - 14:08

Ian Hernandez

yeah that always works out well lmao

November 3, 2016 - 14:09

Zachary Russell

Clinton wants to shoot down Russian planes and help the Islamic rebels take over the Syrian state.

Trump wants to help Russia/Syria bomb ISIS and abandon the Islamic rebels

November 3, 2016 - 14:09

Grayson Baker

And skipping the middleman and just going straight to sending troops in does? They're both terrible policies. At least one doesn't just go straight to having Americans die for Israeli interests.

November 3, 2016 - 14:12

Cameron Mitchell

pol is already at it:
>>>Holla Forums8064057

November 3, 2016 - 14:18

Logan Bennett

theatlantic.com/amp/article/506402/

This is some north Korean propaganda tier shit. Liberalism is authoritarianism with a smile

November 3, 2016 - 14:21

Aaron Williams

Zizek is dead wrong this time. We have more than two candidates. One of them belongs to a party explicitly about building movements–which are exactly what the fuck the left needs right now.

November 3, 2016 - 14:22

Eli Kelly

I can't take seriously the green party. Smells so fucking cultish.

November 3, 2016 - 14:23

Ethan Cox

Where did Trump say he wanted to send troops to Syria?
In the final debate he just seemed to be dodging the question and stood his ground on allying with Putin against ISIS while Hillary wants a No Fly Zone (to depose Assad)

November 3, 2016 - 14:24

Angel Stewart

...

November 3, 2016 - 14:24

Eli Bennett

There are dozens of reports all over the country of hate crimes and vandalism happening the past couple days:

twitter.com/RobKIRO7/status/794183139539095553

nydailynews.com/new-york/queens/exclusive-queens-woman-home-vandalized-hate-crime-article-1.2856435

latimes.com/local/california/la-me-ln-boyle-heights-20161102-story.html

time.com/4555043/mississippi-black-church-vandalism-investigation/

palmbeachpost.com/news/crime--law/boynton-mosque-vandalized-islamic-group-seeks-hate-crime-probe/Q2Ua6YQI0QjNholyB82ziM/

minnesota.cbslocal.com/2016/11/03/cair-mn-u-of-m-muslim-student-association-sign-vandalized/

All of these happened in the last couple days

November 3, 2016 - 14:26

Ayden Ramirez

During the primary, he said he wants to put troops in oil-rich areas of Iraq to protect oil company workers and extract the oil a la old-school colonialism

November 3, 2016 - 14:27

Isaiah Bailey

It actually did happen though, even waves of crime go unseen by the majority of people until it's reported on.

November 3, 2016 - 14:28

Eli Bell

he was talking about Iraq I'm pretty sure.
He can't just turn 180 degrees on Putin.

November 3, 2016 - 14:28

Parker White

I'm not going to achieve these because I don't give a fuck. This shit is common knowledge.

politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/03/trump-iraq-syria-220608

motherjones.com/politics/2016/11/trump-secret-plan-combat-troops-isis-oil-iraq-syria

cnn.com/2016/03/11/politics/donald-trump-30000-troops-isis/

November 3, 2016 - 14:28

Elijah Thompson

To clarify, I don't think he's ever advocated for ground troops in Syria, but has in Iraq

November 3, 2016 - 14:28

Chase Diaz

Yeah, you beat me to it

November 3, 2016 - 14:29

Oliver Lee

what could benefit us more: WWIII or civil war 2?

November 3, 2016 - 14:30

Easton Murphy

Iraq is a ruin at this point anyway. Keeping Sunni fascists from ruling over the Shia majority might actually be a good thing.

November 3, 2016 - 14:30

Angel King

See cnn.com/2016/03/11/politics/donald-trump-30000-troops-isis/ .

In regards to how many troops would be needed.

Way to jump onto the bandwagon and support a candidate when you don't even know what the fuck he is about. Normie-tier faggots.

November 3, 2016 - 14:31

Kayden Smith

ww3.

November 3, 2016 - 14:32

Asher Ortiz

How is that any worse than a no fly zone?
Clinton would just to Bosnia all over again.

November 3, 2016 - 14:32

Joshua Baker

do*

November 3, 2016 - 14:33

Jeremiah Murphy

That's not really a clear commitment to ground-troops in Syria because ISIS straddles both and there's already a legal mandate to deploy troops to Iraq and not one to Syria.

November 3, 2016 - 14:33

Mason Harris

Actually, that's one popular origin of where the term came from. The strikers/union men striking against the coal companies wore red bandanas around their necks.

I just looked it up, and apparently long ago it was also used to describe poor white laborers in fields, who had sunburns on their necks.

But where I'm from, I've always heard the striker story. Shame we've forgotten our past & how we used to be proud union men & women.

November 3, 2016 - 14:34

Nathaniel Jones

whoops
meant for>>1019019

November 3, 2016 - 14:35

Caleb Foster

Who gives a shit where they are going. American troops on the ground dying for Israeli interests is American troops on the ground dying for Israeli interests. Who cares what shit hole they're in?

November 3, 2016 - 14:35

Brody Gutierrez

Israel is aligned with the Saudis and ISIS

November 3, 2016 - 14:36

Leo Anderson

Actually, I just found an interview which clarifies it

He commits to troops in Iraq, but not Syria

youtube.com/watch?v=cJHgA4_0CAo

November 3, 2016 - 14:38

Elijah Cox

Holla Forums cares, you can go back now. >>>Holla Forums

November 3, 2016 - 14:38

Justin Ross

Voted today. Trump, and then Greens all the way down the ticket. I doubt the Greens will win/do much in Maryland but fuck it.

November 3, 2016 - 14:39

Jaxon Bailey

Kiss yourself.

Clinton's supporters are the cultish ones.

November 3, 2016 - 14:39

Jeremiah Peterson

Stein has C U L T - L E A D E R tattood on her forehead

November 3, 2016 - 14:40

Charles Stewart

Go back to Holla Forums

November 3, 2016 - 14:42

Jackson Williams

kill*

Damn, I need sleep

November 3, 2016 - 14:43

Jaxon Thomas

Dude. Stein is cultish as fuck. Only a cult leader could get away putting out music so crap and delusional and not get told by her community that it sucks and cringey ans should stop embarrassing everyone else.

youtu.be/k3O01EfM5fU?t=1077

November 3, 2016 - 14:47

Nathan Gray

This is pretty disgusting, tbh

November 3, 2016 - 14:47

Christian Robinson

Oh, cool, I guess you saw the John Oliver hit piece, too? :DDDDD

You don't deserve to use that flag.

November 3, 2016 - 14:49

Benjamin Rivera

I can't believe my eyes.

KEK

TOP KEK

November 3, 2016 - 14:51

Adrian Hill

I agree with Dore's critique of John Oliver. It is disgusting and a clear example of a corporate anti-comic. YET this doesn't change the fact that she is delusional and has delusional followers.

November 3, 2016 - 14:52

Chase Clark

This is the author, btw.

ted.com/talks/chimamanda_adichie_the_danger_of_a_single_story?language=en

Chimamanda Ngozi, truth teller, brave black woman who ain't afraid of no brocialist.

November 3, 2016 - 14:55

Jace Taylor

Then please, elaborate. Besides music she made in the 90s?

November 3, 2016 - 14:55

Ryder Fisher

I don't think anyone interested in reading more about that hack, after seeing the Hillary piece.

November 3, 2016 - 14:56

Leo Walker

3rd worldist

We're honestly just better off destabilizing the system at this point

November 3, 2016 - 14:57

Elijah Mitchell

It's a TED talk. She start it off by telling everyone how intelligent she is. I'm not even kidding.

November 3, 2016 - 14:58

Jacob Rodriguez

?

How would we go about this?

November 3, 2016 - 14:58

Nathaniel Myers

Seeing her is even worse.

November 3, 2016 - 14:59

Ian Taylor

Think before you post.

November 3, 2016 - 15:14

Matthew Gomez

Heads up, as if we already didn't see them throughout this thread.

Still waiting

November 3, 2016 - 15:17

Leo Scott

yeah, I'm super sure

November 3, 2016 - 15:20

Camden Jones

I found that particularly funny, as well.

Here's the thread if anyone's interested
8ch.net/pol/res/8064057.html

November 3, 2016 - 15:21

Cooper Williams

10/10 for the Stalin post.

November 3, 2016 - 15:23

Ian White

...

November 3, 2016 - 15:24

Thomas Fisher

Yea, it's pretty obvious.

November 3, 2016 - 15:26

Lucas Morgan

porky really is jumping the shark lately

November 3, 2016 - 15:29

Asher Watson

Someone update me on the alt-right.

I was skimming through a TRS article (for masochistic/anthropological purposes) when I stumbled on the claim that dinosaurs and a globular Earth are hoaxes.

Is this some edgelord dogwhistle/meme? Or are alt-right kiddies actually this idiotic?

November 3, 2016 - 15:31

Chase Moore

Post it

November 3, 2016 - 15:31

Luke Jenkins

That's not how you link between the boards newfag

November 3, 2016 - 15:32

Anthony Gray

Only CTR posts TBH.

November 3, 2016 - 15:32

Leo Bailey

archive.is/ty04W

November 3, 2016 - 15:34

Levi Jones

Fucking Democrat party keeps texting me.

November 3, 2016 - 15:36

Jace Collins

...

November 3, 2016 - 15:36

Luis Gray

shit sorry phone glitched out
it's a meme from what i get

November 3, 2016 - 15:37

Ian Lopez

It's like you enjoy getting pegged by the state.

November 3, 2016 - 15:37

Luke Roberts

CLINTON V TRUMP POLL

4 DAYS UNTIL THE ELECTION

strawpoll.me/11555403

November 3, 2016 - 15:38

Grayson Turner

Top banter m80

November 3, 2016 - 15:38

Jordan Harris

10/10 ffuggen lost it

here's another attempt: youtube.com/watch?v=vpJINeeTIX0

November 3, 2016 - 15:38

Hudson Robinson

Holla Forums here
heads up that CTR has compromised archive.is to track IPs and gather information

November 3, 2016 - 15:39

Christian Lee

I'm just tired. Click it you lazy bastard.

And while you're at it, quit saging in a cyclical thread.

November 3, 2016 - 15:40

Justin Garcia

Who's going to be your guy's next boogeyman to fuel your self induced paranoia once the election is over?

November 3, 2016 - 15:40

Grayson Bailey

...

November 3, 2016 - 15:41

Parker Clark

This comes from a meme where an unstable woman created an alt-right media outlet and started seriously arguing for the new flat earth theory and her entire audience abandoned her. Then she went into paranoia mode and started calling all of her detractors gay and jew shills.

When joking about it, someone came up with the term "spherecuck" to describe people who reject "the ultimate redpill" of flat earth theory.

November 3, 2016 - 15:42

Jason Clark

Nah, blue name field is more patrician than the green one.

November 3, 2016 - 15:43

Henry Ross

Please don't make me defend Holla Forums

November 3, 2016 - 15:43

Cameron Long

That was Sinead McCarthy or whatever she was called, right?

November 3, 2016 - 15:46

Samuel Taylor

Yea, CTR exists. But they are nowhere near as omnipotent as Holla Forumstards make them out to be. Hell, I've not only been called CTR about a million times over there just for speaking my mind about Trump, but have also even received god only knows how many bans from their hilariously inept moderation team for being CTR as well. CTR is to Holla Forums what faggots are to Westboro baptist church, every single one of life's misgivings can be attributed to that one single scapegoat.

November 3, 2016 - 15:47

Aiden Rodriguez

Yeah, I've noticed that, too. If I ever post there, which is rarely(in the Podesta email threads), I have to walk on eggshells.

November 3, 2016 - 15:49

Juan Scott

since most polls are collected using land lines, which pretty much only 40+ people use, is it possible that clinton is actually leading trump, and stein is getting a lot more support than what is on the polls, since most young people are liberal or left leaning?

November 3, 2016 - 15:55

Jack Scott

no

because all those unpolled young people don't vote lol

November 3, 2016 - 16:00

Chase Edwards

I'd say many more, this year. After being inspired by S█████ & seeing the shitshow/rhetoric from Trump & Clinton. I think many will also vote out of spite(those who either got fucked over by Clinton or just hate her).

When I was younger, I didn't vote sometimes because I was broke as shit, no car, stupid barriers, etc.

Now that I'm older, that has still prevented me sometimes. We really need to find a way to push for mail-in or early voting education for the primaries, too. Most people(on east coast & middle America) have no idea how that works or if it's even available to them. It's not available in my state(KY), unfortunately, unless you're overseas like I am.

November 3, 2016 - 16:05

Austin Reed

And I'll add, the internet has had a huge impact on the youth, politically. More than ever, since we're more connected & able to share more efficiently & rapidly. That's one reason why B████ almost beat Hillary, despite the rigging & MSM bullshit.

November 3, 2016 - 16:07

Charles Bell

Yup

November 3, 2016 - 16:08

Jason James

The United States doesn't have compulsory voting
Young people don't like Clinton

November 3, 2016 - 16:33

Jayden Parker

twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/793818953755742209

Obama covering for Hillary, which is expected.

November 3, 2016 - 16:46

Angel Cruz

Well, does Clinton do better in online polls? You can filter polls by collection method on the HuffPost aggregator. As for whether phone polls are less reliable, they are traditionally considered to be the best, but they were less accurate than online polls in the Brexit vote. That vote was characterized by low youth and high elderly turnout, so go figure.

November 3, 2016 - 17:23

Michael Hughes

A Trump presidency would be the biggest blackpill right-wingers will ever swallow in their entire lives. All this anti-establishment rhetoric will evaporate when he surrounds himself with people who have the experience and know the job better than he ever will, and they will play him to their own ends.

Kind of like how the nobles would influence and mold very young and inexperienced kings who were thrust into power to their own ends.

November 3, 2016 - 17:25

Zachary Walker

Like I stated before. Trump could be the death of the right.

If he gets elected, lets hope he screws up big. It'll ensure nobody ever votes for a nationalist ever again. Also, the damage control done by 4pol after this will be delicious.

November 3, 2016 - 17:30

Cameron Wood

archive.is/JmZ39
Reminder this is the list of his economic advisors.
Honestly i kinda want to see Trump win just to see Holla Forums justifying this.

November 3, 2016 - 17:36

Christian Anderson

I think Holla Forums knows that Trump really isn't the white supremacist monster that they're hyping him up to be

Holla Forumss hype for the Trump man can be broken down into several key factors that allowed the Trump-train so to speak to snowball.
1.) GamerGate culture influenced early Holla Forums culture before the two movements kind of drifted apart. People were critical about the media when they all jumped on Trump early on causing a Streisand effect

2.) A Trump presidency is realistic. A full on third reich is not realistic. You have to take what you can get

3.) Trump is a civic-nationalist which falls closer in-line with Holla Forums than the other neocon globalist Republicans and the interventionist neocon Hillary
If Trump wins I fully expect Holla Forums to go back to normal. But if he loses, I don't think it'll ever be truly over.

November 3, 2016 - 17:36

Brody Powell

You mean pre stormfaggotry?

November 3, 2016 - 17:41

Nathan Roberts

Well, it's not the first time that's happened

November 3, 2016 - 17:45

Josiah Wilson

Trump and Clinton are still BFF's.

The he said she said part is not the pathetic part here. The pathetic part is that both their fanbases are actually actively participating in that.

The election is already rigged for Hillary to win. Trump never intended to become president. Why should a guy like Trump become president anyway? If he wanted direct control, he'd put his strawman in and dictate everything he wants him to do.

November 3, 2016 - 19:00

Joshua King

zdf.de/comedy/neo-magazin-mit-jan-boehmermann/neo-magazin-royale-mit-jan-boehmermann-clip-1-100.html

By the guy, who caused a diplomatic incedent between Germany and Turkey.

November 3, 2016 - 19:05

Connor Reyes

...

November 3, 2016 - 19:05

Daniel Jenkins

youtube.com/watch?v=okEKKz9tdn4

Farrakhan gave a speech and he absolutely shits all over Hillary. The stuff about Obama is retarded, but the rest is hilarious.

November 3, 2016 - 21:23

Jonathan Russell

...

November 3, 2016 - 21:35

Thomas Morris

reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5b08cy/warning_graphic_i_dont_think_you_guys_appreciate/

November 3, 2016 - 21:47

Adam Baker

when the revolution comes, lena dunham will be first under the guillotine

November 3, 2016 - 21:49

Xavier Butler

I find it gross too, but you have to be seriously spooked to react to it as strongly as the_donald does. It's just new age shit, not evil.

November 3, 2016 - 22:08

William Peterson

...

November 3, 2016 - 22:09

Caleb Cruz

can you keep to one thread please

November 3, 2016 - 22:10

Juan Hernandez

she isn't in the least attractive and she definitely isn't funny either. No charisma at all. How can a person like this become funny?

November 3, 2016 - 22:37

Xavier Bell

...

November 3, 2016 - 22:52

Jason Flores

jeeeeesuuuuus peeeopleee are fuuuuuuuukkkeen duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuumb

November 3, 2016 - 22:53

Jaxson Clark

Are these people getting spooked by a weirdo performance artist's bullshit performance art?

November 3, 2016 - 23:02

Owen Rodriguez

It's r/the_donald. They're all 15 years old.

November 3, 2016 - 23:05

Lincoln Williams

you guys just need to do that research
ur not woke yet

November 3, 2016 - 23:08

Michael Anderson

Oh man if only that woman were right about Comrade Barry :'^🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀(

November 3, 2016 - 23:12

Noah Bailey

Goddammit O'Bama strikes again!

November 3, 2016 - 23:13

Oliver Rivera

Dog, I fully believe the elites worship Saturn and that Revelation 3:9 is directly referencing the current global elites and that the whore of Babylon that all the world leaders have fornicated with and been corrupted by and that all the merchants of the world that have been made drunk by the fruits of her wine is actually the worldwide central banking system. I believe the elites perform human sacrifices and fuck children and all that jazz. Name a satanic conspiracy theory involving world elites and I believe it. The level of woke I'm on is unprecedented, but I'm not gonna get spooked from a YouTube video of someone painting on a wall, primarily because I'm not a child.

November 3, 2016 - 23:15

Joshua Morgan

Yes, just like it was very easy to topple Saddam

November 3, 2016 - 23:18

Oliver Lopez

With all that time porkies spending on conspiring and adoring satan and praying and drinking blood and having blood orgies and chanting spells and curses I wonder how they have the spare time to exploit us.

November 3, 2016 - 23:18

David Robinson

It's all just part of the game homie.

November 3, 2016 - 23:19

Andrew Rogers

So let me get this straight.
Capitalism = 40% the logic of capital + 60% satanic spells

November 3, 2016 - 23:20

Elijah Gutierrez

Quelle surprise

November 3, 2016 - 23:21

Eli Brooks

Capitalism=100% Satanism.

Cash is evil.

November 3, 2016 - 23:21

Josiah White

Delegation of authority

November 3, 2016 - 23:35

Parker Morales

As an occultist i feel that some of them probably genuinely believe in that bohemian grove, worshiping an owl, eyes wide shut shit, probably like 2 percent of the.
The rest of them probably just use as an excuse to have weird sex and be above the proles.

As for Marina Abramović she is a performance artist and most people dont grasp or like modern art, also most people dont realize that art is the closest thing to actual magic in this world besides also science.

youtube.com/watch?v=k1qACd0wHd0

November 3, 2016 - 23:40

Grayson Jones

This picture made me leave Catholicism.

November 3, 2016 - 23:49

Michael Nelson

twitter.com/wikileaks/status/794450623404113920

November 4, 2016 - 01:18

Ayden Powell

huh. takes all kinds i guess.
at least she's not knitting with her vagina.

November 4, 2016 - 01:34

Anthony Ross

*picture unrelated

November 4, 2016 - 01:35

James Jackson

That may sound good at first, but I'd say Pence is arguably worse than Trump honestly.

November 4, 2016 - 02:14

Jordan Ramirez

Both Pence and Kaine are worse than Trump and Hillary respectively.
Pence because he's just another establishment warmonger like Hillary.
Kaine because he's the same but can never become as controversial as Hillary already is.

November 4, 2016 - 02:40

Josiah Watson

That's actually the Vatican XI doing some training.
You know, that country is so small, they don't even have a pitch.

November 4, 2016 - 03:12

Adam Taylor

Trump is essentially an American Boris Yeltsin.
The worse choice for America, the better choice for the rest of the world.

November 4, 2016 - 03:15

Sebastian Wright

I'm not even bongistani, and that makes me picture a Vatican City FIFA team.

November 4, 2016 - 03:18

Chase Lewis

just need to plant a crime on Kaine and then another couple people until we push Sandals through the line of succession

November 4, 2016 - 03:42

Jaxson Lewis

you guys are completely deluded its unbelievable !.
you're assuming that his fanboys are rational people that will see the light at some point.

what makes you think that ?.
they've been blaming others for their failures all their lives, Trump himself said that he could shoot a guy in the street and his fanboys would still vote for him, its a fucking cult.

if shit goes bad for him, he'll just blame some minority or some country and everyone will fallow.
a guy like Trump won't go down without taking the country and everyone with him.
he's the kind of douche that starts wars

November 4, 2016 - 03:46

Elijah Lopez

This could be said about Clinton as well.

November 4, 2016 - 04:03

Kevin Garcia

Holla Forums has finally completely lost whatever is left of their fucking minds. I can't wait to see how they react when Hillary wins.

November 4, 2016 - 04:41

Carter Campbell

They were being serious?…

November 4, 2016 - 05:02

Alexander Richardson

Depends on who you fuck.

I watched two seconds. Don't ever do that to me again.

November 4, 2016 - 05:10

Eli Edwards

I remember her. Rhythm series was famous. Performance art is still dumb.
vimeo.com/71952791

November 4, 2016 - 05:13

Adrian Morris

is this the thread where someone had some stein AMA pictures showing reasonable responses and redditors making ridiculous strawman arguments?
trying to find those examples

November 4, 2016 - 05:20

Luke Russell

ridiculous, i'v never heard anyone calling clinton "god empror".
i'v never met a Clinton fanboy actually.
every person voting Clinton i know do it because Trump is a shit head, not because they think Clinton is the savior of the white race.

Clinton is more likely to be impeached and less likely to start a Nazi masturbation fantasy btw

November 4, 2016 - 05:55

Liam Rodriguez

Wow I had no idea the Nation of Islam cult was even still alive.

November 4, 2016 - 06:41

Justin Clark

reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5b1qtf/comet_ping_pong_pizzagate_summary/

what the fuck is going on

November 4, 2016 - 06:44

Jayden Jones

Not to say some(a good amount) of the_donald redditors aren't retards, but some of these recent posts seem to reek of psy-ops or maybe even CTR to discredit any sane ones there. Or it could just be a crazy person… Who knows.

It's interesting because some info about Podesta & influential DC people is true, but it's mixed in with completely hilarious nonsense. Possibly to discredit anyone who brings this issue up on other subreddits? I had a definite CTR fuck try to discredit a well put together list of DNC leaks, for the simple fact someone had also posted in onto the_donald.

This election, reddit & America just sucks, all around.

November 4, 2016 - 07:57

Justin Gutierrez

youtube.com/watch?v=k9xbokQO4M0

Now i understand why Hillary wants Assange dead.

November 4, 2016 - 08:51

Chase Jones

I think I'm way too behind on this email stuff to understand this.

November 4, 2016 - 08:58

Joshua Wright

weaponized autists on reddit are coming across emails where they talk about "pizza parties" and things like that in really weird contexts, and they think it might be code for a child prostitution/trafficking ring

November 4, 2016 - 09:04

Dylan Peterson

The email issue:
Bill & Hillary Clinton are assumed by anyone who isn't a partisan shill to be guilty of racketeering by using public office for personal enrichment.

Hillary Clinton used a private server under the assumption that it wouldn't be subject to FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) requests/be on the public record in any other way.

Congress subpoenaed the emails from her private server, knowing that there would be incriminating stuff in there. But she deleted the emails before Congress/the FBI could see them, so the FBI opened a full investigation to recover the emails from other sources. Normally this would be enough for an obstruction of justice charge, but someone tipped them off ahead of time and wiped the server before the subpoena was formally issued.

The FBI patched together what it could find, but didn't find enough evidence for an obstruction of justice or any other charge.

What came out last week was that Huma Abedin had plugged her phone into her husband, Anthony Weiner’s laptop at some point during Hillary Clinton's time at the state department, and the software automatically synced the devices. This sync transferred 650k emails to the laptop, including most/all of the emails from her time at the state department. Even though she later wiped the emails from all of her devices before handing them over to the FBI, this laptop still had her intact email repository - at least from some time ago.

This laptop was uncovered during an FBI investigation into Anthony Weiner for Child Pornography, and an FBI agent happened upon a treasure-trove of emails.

Wikileaks emails:
John Podesta, Bill Clinton's Chief of Staff & Hillary's 2016 campaign chairman, had his emails stolen and leaked to Wikileaks, which are now dumping them 1,000 per day. A bunch of embarassing shit about the DNC & Clinton machine have come out, the highlights of which show up in headlines occasionally. One of the emails contained an invitation to a Spirit Cooking Dinner, which is where people use bodily fluids in their cooking and do weird satanic rituals.

November 4, 2016 - 09:18

Jayden Smith

I guess they also found some discussion about pedophiles too in those Podesta emails; new stuff every day.

November 4, 2016 - 09:20

Benjamin Campbell

It's entirely possible these conspiracies are being belt fed into the chans through Trump lines so little autistic 14 year olds can go and tell their daddy and mommy about how Clinton is secretly peddling Satan's wares.

November 4, 2016 - 09:27

Bentley Turner

Somebody stop the Saudis before they buy the rest of America.

November 4, 2016 - 09:33

Jonathan Edwards

Possible, but likely? We know Bill is an associate of Epstein and a frequent guest at his pedo resort island. Just recently there was that big child sex scandal with the British government, and I remember reading too that there were many American top military officials that have been caught with child porn on their computers but have never been charged or anything.

November 4, 2016 - 09:40

Benjamin Murphy

And you know, that entire Brexit thing happened only months ago, yet british people already regret it. Who's to say it wasn't Trump pre-alpha?

November 4, 2016 - 10:04

Jack Moore

All i know is the media has been regretting it since day 1 m8.

November 4, 2016 - 10:06

Ryan Perez

Gentlemen, have we hit peak desperation?

November 4, 2016 - 10:16

Julian Wilson

Is this the real life?

November 4, 2016 - 10:21

Anthony Russell

WEW
E
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November 4, 2016 - 10:22

Alexander Fisher

...

November 4, 2016 - 10:22

Grayson Bell

75% chance of Clinton winning

cnn.com/election/interactive-electoral-college-map/

November 4, 2016 - 10:25

Jackson Edwards

Wasn't it like 60% old people that voted leave?

November 4, 2016 - 10:26

Brayden Gonzalez

...

November 4, 2016 - 10:26

Mason Jenkins

Are you purposefully being dense nigga.

November 4, 2016 - 10:28

Brody Garcia

...

November 4, 2016 - 10:30

Isaac Russell

Maybe it had something to do with "people said mean things to me on the internet" isn't something the fbi gives a shit about

November 4, 2016 - 10:32

Lucas Wilson

Is Holla Forums actually serious with this pizza party pedo shit or are they just doing "meme magic" so that the media will talk about it?

November 4, 2016 - 10:38

Eli Reyes

From what I looked at it looks serious. The emails they talk about seem pretty suspicious imo. I don't know if it's actually a pedoring but it definitely doesn't seem like its on the level.

November 4, 2016 - 10:42

Benjamin Lee

It's not serious. One of their biggest pieces of evidence is that Obama spent $65,000 to fly in "pizza and hotdogs" from Chicago - his hometown and a city famous for its pizza and hot dogs. Apparently "pizza and hotdogs" is code for "little boys and little girls" - because Holla Forums says so (aka because they are psychologically projecting their own pedophiliac predilections from their fucked up heads). If Occam's Razor wasn't banished from that snake pit long ago, Holla Forums would realize that it's very likely Obama indeed spent that much money chartering a private jet to fly to Chicago and back to get Chicago pizzas and hot dogs for a party he was hosting in the WH. The "waitresses" referenced in the emails are probably hot stewardesses. Nothing wrong with hoping your 80 minute flight is stewarded by hot pieces of ass.

The issue here is twofold: one, these fuckheads don't have more than two brain cells to rub together, and two, I actually believe that they are being gaslit by CTR, etc. so that they don't focus on shit that is actually tenable (such as Hillary's crimes in Honduras).

As for the Marina Abramovic shit, it's just terrible postmodern performance art of no substance and value, and Holla Forums's reaction to it is beyond trite. Podesta's interest in it is not surprising, as many liberal elites have fucking terrible taste when it comes to art and aesthetics. Just look at how many of them fawn over Hamilton, et al.

In b4 I am accused of being a shill.

November 4, 2016 - 10:58

Hunter Reyes

This.

It's like they're trying to help Clinton get elected

which i'm all for

November 4, 2016 - 11:02

Connor Rivera

Not that I would know from experience but it sure seems like $65,000 wouldn't be nearly enough money for that kind of 'service'…

November 4, 2016 - 11:04

Lucas Fisher

Guys, guys. Clinton was just doing the smart thing by using personal email & server. Also, Wikileaks was never to be trusted.

November 4, 2016 - 11:05

Easton Reed

What if:

Trump's advertising team operated with the home field advantage in trying to direct the particular narrative they want to crystallize around Clinton. What if the sort of damage these advertisers now want to inflict is an escalation on the persona of Clinton to reinforce hand in hand support for Trump. What if these advertisers are well aware that the peak of the damage has passed for the email leaks, and that these last couple of days must break ground in rhetoric in order to conjure every inch of the voting figures required.

The idea that crowd sourcing detective work, onto fourteen year olds whose only capital value to these people is that they can repeat the line hand in mouth, is fucking ludicrous.

November 4, 2016 - 11:07

Tyler Walker

What in particular do you find stupid about the pizza=pedophilia theory? I know it sounds crazy but 'pizza' is clearly being used a code for something shady. And we saw in Britain how pedophilia is rife in the elite.

November 4, 2016 - 11:09

Ian Perry

Yeah, your point is so fucking obviously right that you have no need of proof.

Find me a poll that shows a large proportion of Leave voters wanting to go back. From what I've seen an equal number of Remain voters are wavering.

November 4, 2016 - 11:12

Wyatt Bailey

Not only is it rife among the elite but the epidemic levels of abuse are exploited by the CIA to bribe and blackmail people in high places.

November 4, 2016 - 11:14

Christian Mitchell

You dense cunt I was joking.

Who would actually believe this?

November 4, 2016 - 11:15

Bentley Cruz

Explain yourself.

November 4, 2016 - 11:20

Adrian Walker

Saying you want Clinton to win should be a bannable ofence tbh. Stein or bust

November 4, 2016 - 11:21

Dylan Peterson

A vote for Stein might as well be a vote for Trump. There is zero chance that Stein will win, the race is between Clinton and Trump.

November 4, 2016 - 11:23

Parker Perez

s-stop this right now troll.

November 4, 2016 - 11:24

Cooper Hernandez

Trump is a fascist. I don't want him near the nuclear codes. As corrupt and shady Hillary may be I trust her near the nuclear codes, I don't trust Trump.

I can see him trying to declare war on any country that upsets him.

November 4, 2016 - 11:24

Liam Turner

fix'd

November 4, 2016 - 11:25

Jace Roberts

Fuck off nazbol.

>>>Holla Forums

where you belong

November 4, 2016 - 11:27

Alexander Foster

So is private property.

Idpol in it's most cancerous form.

November 4, 2016 - 11:27

Dylan Green

and? You think it matters what flavor of neo-con we get? S█████ was a huge awakening for a lot of normies, and giving your vote to Stein is the best way to make people think that the alternative is still alive

November 4, 2016 - 11:27

Jackson Perry

Have you seen the debates? Even with all the propaganda against Trump it's clear that Hillary is really bad at controlling her anger. She and her supporters are trying to stir shit up against the fucking FBI. They really think that she did nothing wrong and is the best thing since electricity. That's real fascism user: delusional followers and power-tripping leaders

November 4, 2016 - 11:30

Samuel Clark

I second this. There's no argument to be made tbh.

November 4, 2016 - 11:30

Brody Watson

Lmao, amazing. As if Clinton isn't the one redbaiting & ramping up cold war rhetoric against Russia.

Trump of all people has said we need to normalize relations. Only Clinton could make Trump look sane, at any time.

November 4, 2016 - 11:32

Thomas Garcia

This is a bit of a stretch.

November 4, 2016 - 11:32

Adrian Richardson

It isn't as if Russia isn't more or less Capitalist at this point than the United States. I should care about either equally: that is not at all.

November 4, 2016 - 11:33

Sebastian Price

...

November 4, 2016 - 11:33

Elijah Price

But an alternative isn't alive. And to be quite honest, it never will be , barring a nuclear holocaust that wipes out the current status quo. At least with a Clinton win we get to see immeasurable amounts of salt from Holla Forums. It's not like the president matters anymore, democracy has been dead for a long time in this country and all the shots are called from well above the president's head. Elections only exist to keep the plebs placid and thinking they still have a voice in things. No matter who wins we are going to get the exact same result. Might as well at least get some giggles out of this shit.

November 4, 2016 - 11:34

Cameron Watson

Fuck you. This is not a conspiracy theory, it's fact.

I just voted for Stein.

November 4, 2016 - 11:34

John King

Sure, you don't have to care about Russia. I'm just worried by Clinton's war hawkishness. But I have moved out of the states, so I'm probably safer now, lmao.

November 4, 2016 - 11:36

Connor Thompson

It's not a Holla Forums conspiracy theory when every single liberal media outlet is full of all this anti-Russia shit. Thanks to this fucking witch we are right back at Cold War rethoric and might as well be walking into WW3, all because Dems want to stay in power. It's disgusting and all you nihilist faggots disgust me as well.

November 4, 2016 - 11:36

Nathan Robinson

It's MY right to fill MY wardrobe with the clothes that I want to, and you little creepy internet losers aren't changing that.

November 4, 2016 - 11:36

Noah Cruz

Forgot anfem flag

Also, tbh that skirt makes you look like a whore :^)

November 4, 2016 - 11:38

Jeremiah Moore

Question. Why should we care about modern Russia anymore than we care about America

Anyone who thinks World War III is happening this late in the late capitalism game is just stupid.

November 4, 2016 - 11:39

Asher Miller

lol. Now this is delusion

November 4, 2016 - 11:40

Luis Thompson

lmao it’s quite fucking obvious that Clinton has been redbaiting and stirring up shit against Russia. That’s been, like, her M.O. since she was Secretary.

Anyway, this pedo ring shit is spooky but there’s considerable proof that many people in governments or militaries are deep into pedo shit. This is not conspiratorial—this is a documented fact.

November 4, 2016 - 11:40

Juan Young

These facts are in their infancy. We must do our best to protect them at all costs from those who seek to pervert the truth.

November 4, 2016 - 11:42

Tyler White

Like I said earlier in the thread, much of he elite pedophile ring stuff can be traced to CIA honeypot operations.

November 4, 2016 - 11:42

Aiden Robinson

Post Modern Spellwork

November 4, 2016 - 11:42

Henry Richardson

where did I say that modern Russia has anything to do with communism? It's a super power. They have nuclear missiles and a better military than the US. You don't fuck with a powerful country just to win a fucking election.

Brought to you by the same theorists who say capitalism will fall anytime now

November 4, 2016 - 11:43

Ethan Rogers

Ok, but what makes you think World War III is happening in Late Capitalism, this stage of market fuckery

November 4, 2016 - 11:43

Jonathan Hernandez

That bitch is a mong

Is that the dude from game of thrones with a sausage in the background?

November 4, 2016 - 11:43

Anthony Fisher

Don't bother with anfem, at least. They're always nihilist & contrarian.

November 4, 2016 - 11:44

Charles Miller

Wait

Now I know you're just dumb

November 4, 2016 - 11:44

Joshua Ortiz

Bitch it's been like 4 or 5 months since I've been here chill

November 4, 2016 - 11:44

Austin Harris

And things were going well.

Why did I hug you ;~;

November 4, 2016 - 11:45

Jason Hall

oooooooooooo

November 4, 2016 - 11:46

Jaxson Turner

Yep. That's why Bill Cooper's whole "Mystery Babylon" series is total trash.

November 4, 2016 - 11:46

Brandon Sullivan

Yeah, Instead you grovel at their feet and kiss their ass like Trump does.

Hillary isn't planning on war. She's basically just telling them to fuck off.

November 4, 2016 - 11:46

Hudson King

Wow, again, why are you using the socialist flag? You should be using a conservative flag, with that talk.

Kill yourself.

November 4, 2016 - 11:47

Sebastian Collins

I do not like Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump and anyone who pretends to say either is good is naive.

The only thing I care about is the possibility of re-negging on the Paris Agreement and future curbs to climate change, because I know the bougie will act on it because it affects them as well as all of us equally.

As long as that stands, keep it.

But for everything else, fuck it.

November 4, 2016 - 11:48

Gavin Myers

Why bother. If you're right, we'll both die!

November 4, 2016 - 11:48

Carson Taylor

literal CTR talking point. You are either a shill or plain retarded

yes

November 4, 2016 - 11:48

Ian Russell

forgot flag

November 4, 2016 - 11:48

Ian Powell

MUSHROOM CLOUDS AND PANT SUITS

November 4, 2016 - 11:48

Wyatt Gomez

PANTSUITS OF THE WORLD, UNITE!

November 4, 2016 - 11:49

James Hill

I can agree with this

November 4, 2016 - 11:49

Ethan Campbell

PANTSUITS AND MUSHROOM CLOUDS

November 4, 2016 - 11:50

Hudson Garcia

Nice memes and buzzwords, maybe I should call you a kike just to meme back

November 4, 2016 - 11:50

Kevin Walker

I think you're lost friend, Holla Forums is over there >>>Holla Forums next to the Israeli "vote for Donald Trump" booth.

November 4, 2016 - 11:51

Jonathan Brown

lol
Hillary is 300% OK with Fracking, you think she gives a shit?
We'll have cheap electric cars in a decade or two, the free market has fixed it.

If by fuck off you mean "abandon your allies and all your foreign influence" yes
And if you expect Russia to take that lightly you're insane.

November 4, 2016 - 11:52

Bentley Wood

ASSLESS CHAPS AND PNEUMATIC SPEARGUNS

November 4, 2016 - 11:53

Christopher Parker

The best thing the left can spire to now is a Trump presidency. There will be a lot of people really dissapointed when they realize that either he can't or won't do what he promised. For the majority of his supporters he is the protest vote, an alternative to the Rep/Dem choice. Then we show them the true enemy, which is capitalism, and the true alternative to it's vices, socialism. Another Dem presidency will plunge left leaning individuals into more id-pol, just like this past 8 years of Obama have drawn a bigger divide between black people and everyone else.

November 4, 2016 - 11:53

Gabriel Scott

Can I ask which state all these Hillary voters live? Is it a swing state? I can maybe understand voting Hillary if your state is genuinely a contest but if you're living in a hard red/blue state and you vote status quo then you are a moron.

November 4, 2016 - 11:54

Chase Cook

The go to Holla Forums meme R is there. They should only be used in moderation.

November 4, 2016 - 11:55

Owen Cox

whole lotta no arguments around here

November 4, 2016 - 11:55

Parker Stewart

Yes because it's a diplomatic agreement. I have no reason to believe she would neg on it as Trump would, and Climate Change is not some minor issue. As long as it's kept, fine I'm happy. I'm not in the mood for being a boiling frog.

As for everything else FUCK CLINTON.

And as for everything in general, FUCK TRUMP.

The only thing I care about is keeping future diplomatic and UN agreements on changing the climate for better results than the shit we currently have, to at least delay the inevitable slide.

November 4, 2016 - 11:56

Luis Jenkins

What about Podesta and the three under 10 year olds as pool 'entertainment'.

Fucking pedos all over the shop.

November 4, 2016 - 11:56

Noah Perez

Stupid keyboard
The go to Holla Forums meme is overused here just as much as CTR is there.*

November 4, 2016 - 11:56

Jacob Morgan

The UN and Nato need to be abolished.

November 4, 2016 - 11:57

Lucas King

Look at the broader picture. That's not happening, and we have no other resource to get this shit done right now or within eight years otherwise.

We take what we got. And right now we can't afford to wait on acting on climate change.

November 4, 2016 - 11:58

Brayden White

Sasuga, anfem.

November 4, 2016 - 11:59

Joshua Cooper

If we don't act to change climate change in 50+ years when it becomes more of a possibility, the last thing on your mind will be revolution, it'll be that the Midwest is hot as the equator.

November 4, 2016 - 12:00

Hudson Robinson

"But then we must advance the case for climate change as one of the many problems to unite the proletariat of this world"

November 4, 2016 - 12:01

Grayson Rogers

If you want to take what you got at the moment the only option is anti-globalism coalition. Then the true fight starts.

Right now you have scum like Trudeau running amok and people thinking he's a fucking Green Peace activist, it's infuriating. They want 100m people in Canada by the end of the century, they are sociopaths.

November 4, 2016 - 12:05

Levi Anderson

I don't see anything happening under Trump within Climate Change that isn't negative. So strategically, I begrudgingly agree that Clinton might be better for things overall, if for any reason than she works to keep policy that keeps the NOAA and other such institutions functioning on updating us about the climate.

Because the climate has impacts that aren't at all just temperature related. The tides are effected, the ecology is effected, and the politics of already unstable regions in Africa and the Middle East are effected.

So, a vote for Trump, is more or less, a vote to tell less fortunate nations IE poorer than our own, "go fuck yourself" going into the future.

Which isn't revolutionary at all.

Poor or rich, this effects everyone, so it's something I know the rich will act on, their ass is on the line just as much as someone in Indonesia eventually.

November 4, 2016 - 12:06

Charles Perez

Explain this for me, where I said anything like this.

November 4, 2016 - 12:07

Henry Jackson

I would prefer not to.

November 4, 2016 - 12:07

Robert Murphy

...

November 4, 2016 - 12:08

Anthony Gray

I'm talking about the wolves in sheeps clothing that the globalists are putting into power, all idpol and green bluster, and the press loves them.

November 4, 2016 - 12:09

Liam Thomas

So are we just going to ignore elite pedophile ring conspiracy theorists being vindicated.

November 4, 2016 - 12:10

Lincoln Allen

I'm talking that right now is the tipping point, and real or fake, it isn't worth questioning on pressing the button that says "delay inevitable", just as much as I care about revolution.

What the fuck is the point of a revolution IF by not acting now, we have more of a shithole in the future to work with

November 4, 2016 - 12:10

Eli Morgan

Also there needs to be a cull, nobody wants to address it, technology will not outpace population growth, and it has to happen in 'poor' countries, so pick who you want dead.

November 4, 2016 - 12:12

Liam Rodriguez

From which state will you be voting?

November 4, 2016 - 12:12

Jace Carter

Pics or it didn't happen. But I want to believe.

November 4, 2016 - 12:12

Liam Garcia

Stopping the smoking ban would be a good start.

November 4, 2016 - 12:12

Xavier Bailey

I'm not voting, I'm just praying something gets done. Which sounds counter productive, but sue me. Who isn't.

November 4, 2016 - 12:12

Leo Ortiz

Overpopulation is more of a meme issue than you suggest. Climate Change exacerbates the consequences of overpopulation anyways, so it would be in your better interest to care about that first as well.

November 4, 2016 - 12:13

Andrew Perez

The workers of this world must come together to ban such obscenity

November 4, 2016 - 12:14

Isaac Miller

I've honestly been thinking of the possibility of this as well i don't think it's far-fetched especially because i believe trump will get cock-blocked by congress anyway. we'd need something as dramatic as a trump presidency to accelerate the left because the supporters of the democratic party are misguided. but I'm not voting anyway.

November 4, 2016 - 12:14

Parker Myers

My point is strategically, we have to consider global warming when it comes to revolution. Because let's face it, revolution isn't coming in the 10 year mark. We're talking long term.

And when we talk long term, we talk climate change we talk soil that's no longer fertile for crops. Changing tides, and ecological damage.

We want, as little of this shit as possible to deal with when we get the chance for any kind of future more Marxist state of things if at all possible.

November 4, 2016 - 12:16

Juan Brown

Then what are we even talking about here? Isn't not voting also 'a vote for Trump' by your logic?

November 4, 2016 - 12:17

Tyler Green

Which isn't a fun or attractive thing to think about when considering all this, but it's one you have to think about.

November 4, 2016 - 12:18

Anthony Watson

No? I'm not caring about that sort of shit. Again, just climate change.

November 4, 2016 - 12:18

Charles Ramirez

Actually,

considering some of the points above, it is probably prudent that Trump win.

A Trump victory would disrupt the Democrat status quo and hoist an anti-capitalist in to power.

November 4, 2016 - 12:19

Aaron Robinson

I didn't say that. And really, Trump is just going to do whatever the oil lobby does and wants more than Clinton, because Trump cares about those issues more than diplomatic ones, and the Paris Agreement is a diplomatic issue. Negging it is one of the campaign promises he can make.

So I'd rather not.

November 4, 2016 - 12:22

Jordan Hill

Man, people don't take climate change as seriously as they should. They laughed at S█████(I was admittedly confused at first, too) when he said it's a threat to our safety/terrorism. But he's right.

I just moved from the US to India almost 2 years ago now. I've seen plenty of protests & riots from the Cauvery river water shortage. it's like bone dry in most places, now. About a month ago, a man from my SO's hometown in South India just set himself on fucking fire, to try to bring attention to the problem. It's that desperate. I also can't go outside on some days when there's riots, because it's too dangerous. There were people getting beat up & cars/buses being set on fire.

The TPP & those shit trade agreements need to be addressed & stopped as well. They help multinational corporations extract the natural resources(mostly water) from the local populations. Apparently I just learned that even clothing manufacturers need shitloads of water to dye their materials. Sri Lanka & India have been fucked over, pretty bad. Most Americans are completely unaware because we don't live here or follow the international news on it.

Overall it's actually nice here, but shit gets crazy sometimes over these issues. And Indians aren't afraid of protesting, like we are in the US. So shit gets heavy, quick.

November 4, 2016 - 12:25

William Lopez

In a way, their more linked than anything. The more people, the more consumption of fossil fuels and other things that emit farts in the production process. They have to be tackled at the same time basically.

Also, we need to tell people green capitalism won't happen, because you can't extract surplus value from wind turbines. That is you can keep producing it endlessly like you can with old fuel, because it is a scarce resource, and scarcity implies labor to get it, and thus, more exploitation of workers, and thus more profit.

You should arm them and spread class consciousness.

November 4, 2016 - 12:33

Charles Rodriguez

And if it weren't for global warming, they could've put him out.

November 4, 2016 - 12:34

Logan Scott

*Ctan't is what I meant to say.

November 4, 2016 - 12:34

Lucas Allen

Lol stop trying to pretend to be me

November 4, 2016 - 12:34

Gavin Murphy

Climate change has to be solved by way of a geo-engineering project. Taxing carbon, cap & trade, etc are scams on the other side of the capitalist's coin.

Al Gore and Steyer & others have major investments in these carbon-credit companies and windmill factories that do not actually restore the environment or help to reduce carbon emissions. Green™ companies and products only exist to sell indulgences to guilty liberals that want to signal that they care about the environment, but are actually too lazy to sit down and think about the issue.

There's actually I higher chance that Trump solves the problem by accident (he approves some engineering grant for a machine that mine's carbon or something) than Clinton or Stein would, pursuing a Green™ policy platform.

November 4, 2016 - 12:35

Hudson Wright

*mines carbon dioxide from the atmosphere

November 4, 2016 - 12:37

Thomas Reyes

Everyone’s getting so enamored by this “Smash The Clintonite Status Quo” meme that they’re forgetting—Trump’s a fucking right-wing porky.

What will electing him over Hillary accomplish? Except for making the Democrats really, really mad. In the end, Trump will make it all the easier for the Republicans to ram through their anti-union, anti-worker, anti-spending agenda.

And for what? To spurn an imaginary left-wing movement into arms? Liberals could barely move themselves to vote for a socdem, and now you’re expecting a magical revolutionary uprising against Trump?

All the ways that Trump’s campaign rhetoric is demonstrably better than Clinton’s (and there are plenty) cannot be trusted. He’s a porky and an incompetent and will default to the main G.O.P. line—which is indistinguishable from, and even worse than, Clinton’s.

November 4, 2016 - 12:37

Justin Clark

They have pretty strict gun laws, but still many guerilla groups. Check out "laal salaam"(Red Saulte). The Naxalites are still around, too.

Kerala has a communist local government. Tamilnadu(where his hometown is) has communist parties as well. SO voted for the communist party. I was proud. They need better numbers in Tamilnadu, but in Kerala, they're proud communists. I posted here not too long ago about how every movie I see from there always has communist themes & the characters even call each other "comrade".

I like it here.

Lmao. :(

November 4, 2016 - 12:38

David Barnes

bring on the Feel Police !

November 4, 2016 - 12:38

Jayden Flores

You have no franchise within the current system, so the only rational option is to smash that system.

November 4, 2016 - 12:40

Ethan Sullivan

I forgot to add pic. Guy form Kerala.

November 4, 2016 - 12:40

Gabriel Green

frooooooooooooooooom

I will blame this on my shitty laptop keyboard again.

November 4, 2016 - 12:41

Aaron Brooks

...

November 4, 2016 - 12:45

Wyatt Bell

Accelerationism seems like a Whig concept tbh.

Regardless, here are your options:

November 4, 2016 - 12:49

Levi King

...

November 4, 2016 - 12:50

Isaac Lewis

Even worse, Trump is the epitome of a "crony capitalist" and all evidence seems to point to the fact that he'll be little more than a figurehead for the likes of Sheldon Adelson and whatever other bastards he surrounds himself with.

If anything, the true accelerationist choice is Clinton. The Democrats have chosen to be the party of the Third Way, of left-neoliberalism and of non-white and female capitalists who feel that the greatest tragedy of our time is that they believe they are not as powerful as their white male counterparts. They have chosen death, and we should make damn sure they get it.

November 4, 2016 - 12:50

Bentley Campbell

I don't have enough meme arrows to express my frustration

November 4, 2016 - 12:52

Jason Sanders

By voting Trump, you're basically playing russian roulette.

Only morons play russian roulette

November 4, 2016 - 12:52

Grayson Gutierrez

I honestly wonder how Porky can profit any more from green things than buried shits fossil fuel, since the latter take more labor, and thus, more exploitation. Of course, they are but a half measure in the sense that you still need cheap oil to produce them, as well as the false assumption that they are 'renewable' when their made of cheap materials. I think I just answered my own question BTW.

We might also have to consider trans-humanism, and investing time and effort into heat resistant technology, as a back up strategy of sorts. Then there's the last resort of a nuclear winter, because at that point, fuck it.

Cyborgs fighting over nanotech candy bars in radiated snow when?

Sounds awesome. I hope the revolution stays strong [/spoiler]And that the workers get democratic control of the means of production and/or automate stuff[/spoiler]

November 4, 2016 - 12:53

Kevin Martin

he's saying a trump presidency would accelerate the left to choose an anti-capitalist for the next election

November 4, 2016 - 12:54

Ryan Myers

ok, ok, OK

We're fucked either way. Vote third party for your conscience & hold onto your britches. Likely Hillary already has it rigged, anyway.

We should abolish electoral college, tbh. If we're going to have a Democracy(lol) it should be by popular vote. Unfortunately we've been defunding & cutting schools for decades, resulting in an even dumber, less class conscious populace. I should know.. I dropped out when I was 15, during my second year of 9th grade.

Thank God for the internet, or I'd be substantially less informed.

November 4, 2016 - 12:55

Samuel Parker

The more i read and listen about Trump, the more i compare him to Berlusconi. Is there any Italian comrade that can tell us about him? And how it did turn out for the Left?

November 4, 2016 - 12:56

Logan Cook

Trump’s presidency will accelerate the Republicans’ continued dismantling of the left.

The only “left” reaction will be liberals crying about their Queen and mounting a resistance in the culture wars. Meanwhile, the actual left gets blamed by the liberals, further splintering any radical potential, and the G.O.P. continues to do everything we fear Clinton will do, but worse.

November 4, 2016 - 12:56

Asher Wood

No one's playing russian roulette. We already shot ourselves long ago. Now it's about whether we remain a vegetable or not.

November 4, 2016 - 12:57

Connor Green

the GOP is already a wreck in itself I know several republicans that believe this and many that are not voting for trump because of it

November 4, 2016 - 12:57

Luis Thompson

youtube.com/watch?v=e6jp_MKI_6w

November 4, 2016 - 12:59

Robert Green

...

November 4, 2016 - 12:59

Christian Green

The elite pedophile ring is so obviously real there's no need to address it

November 4, 2016 - 13:02

Asher Brooks

THIS

Trumps rise was pretty inevitable. GOP has been riding on the Southern Strategy for like what 50 years? Sooner or later they were going to lose the plot and nominate someone like Trump.

The effectiveness of the Southern Strategy made the Democrats ineffective as a party also. All they've had to do it just promise they'll keep Jim Crow from coming back and they had all the minorities flock to the party, meanwhile they pushed more and more neoliberal policies.

Each neoliberal policy they successfully pushed made their hubris grow. Until they got to the point we are now where they legitimately thought they could force Hilary on everyone without even trying to hide how terrible she is. Lame attempts like CTR don't count.

November 4, 2016 - 13:02

Levi Martinez

So it's just porky being porky?

November 4, 2016 - 13:04

Kevin Cooper

TBH there's also the consideration that pretty much both of these candidate will fuck over the country, and thus, the blame game will commence again. If Shillery gets in, expect the nu right to be emboldened, and the left further disntigrated, unless the contradictions of capitalism make themselves more known. Which of course could happen under Trump as well, the only difference, the left that isn't obsessed with idpol can point to the fact the dems chose such a shitty candidate for the general, via rigging no less. There's also the fact that liberalism is being dragged into the mud, and rightfully so. It's just that the radical politics will eventually take over after its dead.

November 4, 2016 - 13:13

Zachary Baker

Is there going to be an IRC for election night? Because this thread is going to be really hard to follow.

November 4, 2016 - 13:18

Matthew Reyes

Vindicated how? Because some Holla Forumsyps found emails about pizza?

November 4, 2016 - 13:19

Cooper Nguyen

I propose #bunkerchan IRC, or better yet, the Holla Forums cytu.be channel. That channel is very comfy, and we can watch the coverage from a hopefully not so shitty outlet.

November 4, 2016 - 13:22

Gabriel Foster

We watched all of the debates on the cytu.be channel & I enjoyed the chat, which is why I'm throwing it out there.

November 4, 2016 - 13:23

Elijah Lee

What is the link to the cytu.be channel?

November 4, 2016 - 13:28

Julian Mitchell

That retarded Marina performance art post is already being used by Hillary supporters on reddit.

Wondering if the pizza one will be next.

Yes, I tag the particularly delusional ones

November 4, 2016 - 13:29

Nathaniel Collins

I'm sure it will be posted again on election night, too.

cytu.be/r/M-C-M#

November 4, 2016 - 13:30

Nicholas Lee

...

November 4, 2016 - 13:33

Zachary Cox

Spoiler image that shit plz.

November 4, 2016 - 13:35

Carson Carter

As an artist and occultist, none of this bothers me, obviously i am mad at the elite and oligarchy, but i understand this.
At the same time, even if this doesn't bother you, you have to step back and realize america is a very religious, christian nation, and stuff like this is basically a confirmation to Christians that "satanists" are running things.
So, from that perspective, even if its laughable to you, its very bad optically.

November 4, 2016 - 13:36

Daniel Reed

The GOP hates trump you dip.
Literally all the neocons and cuckservatives have been working to stop him

November 4, 2016 - 13:40

Brody Myers

They hate him because he refused to give money to the GOP and their consultants. They can't hate him for being batshit crazy after peddling candidates like Bachman, Palin, and trumpeting the Tea Party.

November 4, 2016 - 13:43

Kevin Gonzalez

Ehhhh, I think it's more to do with him taking neo-conservatism and taking the biggest dump of all time on it, and he won the party base doing so.

Trump is an unprecedented shift. Bernard should have done the same.He didn't want the hate and threats he would get.

November 4, 2016 - 14:39

Isaac Nguyen

So I noticed that wikileaks actually tweeted about that Marina "Spirit cooking". They shared the email, too..
wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/15893

I doubt it has anything to do with occult shit, but damn, that's nasty.

November 4, 2016 - 14:39

Camden Cruz

'Trump won’t be permitted to win' - Assange

youtube.com/watch?v=JQ7lYRnF1F8

November 4, 2016 - 14:40

Parker Morgan

It feels like I'm on 4chan's /x/

November 4, 2016 - 14:53

Christian Thomas

why?

November 4, 2016 - 14:54

Jackson Brown

Geo Engineering isn't going to happen and it won't happen in a too soon revolutionary society either.

The only thing Earth can do is delay the inevitable shit.

You're just being too optimistic. This is all we have, so you play with the cards your dealt. This won't be solved through geo-engineering any time in the foreseeable future.

November 4, 2016 - 14:57

Owen Walker

I'm responding only because I've heard similar "muh global warming" arguments against Trump before from others: What makes anyone believe anything Obama failed to do will happen under Clinton? What makes anyone believe Trump (probably a political flash in the pan) will make a major dent in an issue 50-80 years off, if the practical difference between Dubya and the Democratic administrations around his on climate would require a magnifying glass to make out? What makes anyone think utterly inadequate virtue-signaling like the Paris & Kyoto agreements come anywhere close to what's ultimately needed?

We need to completely abolish non-sustainable fuels sometime in the next few decades, and probably get a handle on geoengineering. Such an accomplishment would be quite possible, not terribly difficult in PRACTICAL terms, and beneficial for many other reasons, but it is never, ever going to happen until a major POLITICAL realignment occurs.

That means populist political revolution, and right now with [REDACTED] in a DNC armlock, that means Trump.

Bingo, nonsustainable energy is nothing more or less than a vector of political power. The lizard-people backing Shillary for the status quo have zero interest in it aside from that.

Real life is turning into anime

November 4, 2016 - 15:05

Juan Cruz

What I really want to know is. When will everyone on earth just die

November 4, 2016 - 15:07

Cameron Sanders

As i said earlier, even if you find this laughable, lots of Americans are Christians, and this is confirming for them that the Clintons are satanists.
It doesn't work on logic, and these Christians are votes.

November 4, 2016 - 15:10

Joseph Stewart

lmao

November 4, 2016 - 15:12

Lincoln Watson

*hugs*

Will you be my gf?

November 4, 2016 - 15:13

Jackson Peterson

Buts thats true though

November 4, 2016 - 15:14

Angel Bailey

Thank you for correcting the record.

November 4, 2016 - 15:16

Levi Hill

Minus the fact that it really is jews behind everything, everything they say and do is wrong.

November 4, 2016 - 15:17

Parker Collins

After a "Fuck her right in the pussy!"-tier candid soundbyte supposedly swayed the election, I have zero faith in the political integrity of the electorate.

November 4, 2016 - 15:19

Nathaniel Smith

Do you really want a pedophile like Trump as president?

November 4, 2016 - 15:20

Carter Powell

Anybody who is convinced by policy going into the future beneficial for us out of this rat fuck election, and cares about either candidate either way more-or-less

Is basically a sucker

November 4, 2016 - 15:22

Blake Diaz

link?

November 4, 2016 - 15:22

Camden Wright

youtube.com/watch?v=9i7QPT6BOZM

November 4, 2016 - 15:25

Evan Campbell

Fuck off CTR, there's as much evidence against the Clintons as there is for Trump as far as Epstein is concerned.

November 4, 2016 - 15:25

Isaiah Brooks

I'm almost certainly sure that poster is one of the mods here new fry

November 4, 2016 - 15:26

Jaxon Hall

U wot m8? Did you just call me new? A sware on mi mum al smak u in da gabber eqal rites eqal fites

What makes you think he's a mod?

November 4, 2016 - 15:28

Gavin Morris

I am not a mod.

If I was a mod I wouldn't be posting with a flag

November 4, 2016 - 15:28

Brandon Collins

Wrong guy posting with a flag from irc

oops

November 4, 2016 - 15:29

Jonathan Edwards

Oh wait. I remember now. That was another flag lol

November 4, 2016 - 15:30

Jason James

Don't do drugs sweetheart. It's bad for you, OK!

November 4, 2016 - 15:32

Blake Taylor

pls be my gf

November 4, 2016 - 15:33

Blake Morris

and by voting hillary, you're shooting yourself with 100% chance of dying.

November 4, 2016 - 15:33

Eli Myers

what makes you thing its a "she" ?

November 4, 2016 - 15:34

Sebastian Diaz

...

November 4, 2016 - 15:36

Charles Young

This right here pretty much TBH. The whole geoengineering thing obviously shouldn't be our only method of self preservation tbh.

November 4, 2016 - 15:38

James Ramirez

Jesus an Asian whore is really something else, pure trash

November 4, 2016 - 15:38

Josiah Richardson

Don't talk about her that way you faggot

November 4, 2016 - 15:39

Cameron Clark

I'm the one girl who posted here one time

November 4, 2016 - 15:40

Xavier Russell

Girls aren't real. They're just a government created conspiracy to keep us all distracted from paying attention to things that actually matter. At birth doctors are secretly directed to cut off half of all baby dicks and then stab the babies in the taint and stuff them full of eggs. Don't fall for the jewish tricks.

November 4, 2016 - 15:40

Ayden Jenkins

My cover got dropped for a second

November 4, 2016 - 15:40

Ryan Bailey

Absolute trash

November 4, 2016 - 15:41

Grayson Morales

*moves in on you and presses my lips against yours as I tease you with my tongue*

November 4, 2016 - 15:42

Charles Gutierrez

That ain't ya mum

November 4, 2016 - 15:43

Adrian Flores

do you have a disgusting rostie ?

November 4, 2016 - 15:43

Justin Martinez

...

November 4, 2016 - 15:44

Daniel Hall

Global warming aside, geoengineering will be helpful for when the next glaciation hits, which we're already overdue for. So it's more of a long-range thing.

November 4, 2016 - 15:45

Charles Martinez

Period every month

November 4, 2016 - 15:45

Camden Brooks

I dumb, what is Glaciation? Sounds ice agey tbh.

November 4, 2016 - 15:47

Ayden Hall

What are your plans for election day Holla Forums

November 4, 2016 - 15:50

Thomas Young

So how long do you think this "Kek/Meme Magic" bullshit will last?

November 4, 2016 - 15:52

David Baker

Well considering the joke is, Kek will get Trump elected = Meme Magic

We'll see in 4 days

November 4, 2016 - 15:53

James Williams

Seeing Autechre live and then sleeping through the results. How about yo?

November 4, 2016 - 15:56

Xavier Anderson

Enjoy it, comrades.

November 4, 2016 - 15:58

Ayden Walker

Not having class, delaying studying, taking xanax. Smoking a lot. Drinking more.

Being a disgrace. Shaking my head. Sighing. Looking back at the screen at the results. Shaking my head. Sighing. Doing this repetitively.

November 4, 2016 - 15:59

Christian Russell

To be fair, imo meme magic is real to an extent. The placebo effect and particle wave duality are examples of it. What the human mind perceives to be true dictates reality. But they've gone completely overboard with it and it's lost all meaning. I was one of the ones who originally was pushing meme magic so hard, well before the whole Trump thing, and before the Le Baine(or however it's spelled) plane crash even and I really regret it now. I was the first one to associate meme magic with the placebo effect and and the particle/wave duality.

November 4, 2016 - 15:59

Joseph Garcia

Fucking kill yourself already. I'm surprised no one has responded to this.

Or am I retarded & this is obvious bait.

November 4, 2016 - 15:59

Easton Jenkins

It was already shit user

It will just have a different coating

November 4, 2016 - 16:00

Luis Long

Oh, I guess they did & it was deleted, lmao.

Thank you mods. That was getting annoying.

November 4, 2016 - 16:00

Jose Taylor

Well, I hope you're proud

November 4, 2016 - 16:02

Josiah Johnson

My promising baby grew up to become a retarded frog.

November 4, 2016 - 16:04

Brody Long

You fools, it'll only make it stronger. If Trump wins the status quo returns and the mystique of a Trump presidency vanishes. If Trump loses though, he will leave an everlasting legacy that will greatly outlast the two terms he would've potentially have gotten otherwise. He made himself almost God-like with the cult of personality he has created. Having him win might actually ruin this.
I fully welcome Kek as the first religion formed entirely on the internet

November 4, 2016 - 16:05

Adrian Evans

...

November 4, 2016 - 16:06

Luis Rogers

Shit rate magic, I'll just hire a Witch Doctor

November 4, 2016 - 16:07

Josiah Adams

Good, because I want to make fun of you people for a bit longer

November 4, 2016 - 16:08

Thomas Gomez

Looks like meme magic is in its death throes then.
A) Trump wins, no wall, he's pretty average
B) Trump loses, meme magic doesn't work

November 4, 2016 - 16:10

Jace Long

Why do you think that confrontation in Syria couldn't escalate into skirmishes and then war? Are we so stupid that we believe the "no two countries with a McDonald's have ever gone to war" canard? It's precisely the arrogance of the neoliberal consensus that says war with great powers is impossible that creates the conditions for it.

Further, there has never been a more hawkish candidate that hrc. Cooler headed analysis of her foreign policy from long before the election predicted this highly aggressive stance. War under Clinton will definitely occur, and it will follow the neoliberal pattern of arming non-state actors, destroying propserous nations and creating irresolvable crises, but this time they will occur in the sphere of other great powers who may no longer back down

November 4, 2016 - 16:11

Brayden Ross

He's also another pseudo-intellectual fuckface.
Its not the "placebo effect" its confirmation bias.

/fringe/ probably thinks meme magic is real magic. But I don't think Holla Forums does I hope.

Basically what Holla Forums calls "meme magic" is what the United States government and various academic schools refer to as "Memetics".
Memetics and meme magic are schools relating to propaganda, viral marketing, and cultural subversion.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memetics

November 4, 2016 - 16:11

Eli Morales

War will occur, but who said with Russia?

It'll be between states like it always has. We haven't been at that level of war in over a hundred years and we won't start now, we even had a cold war between time

November 4, 2016 - 16:12

Joshua Gonzalez

I honestly believe the wall is the one thing that certainly will happen if Trump wins. Trump is a land developer, building walls is quite literally his job. And besides, there already is sort of a border wall in some areas along the border. Its not like he will gain much opposition anyhow since he is, after all, enforcing laws that already exist but places like California refuse to obey

November 4, 2016 - 16:13

Asher Reed

holy shit get the fuck back to whatever retard-infested shithole spawned you

November 4, 2016 - 16:15

Zachary Ward

Oh watch what happens when he tries to build in a populated commute between Tijuana lol

For someone in land development he sure didn't think that fucking nightmare through

November 4, 2016 - 16:15

Brody Hughes

?

November 4, 2016 - 16:16

Grayson Baker

No, meme magic isn't proof of the placebo effect, the placebo effect is proof of meme magic. A thought or an idea having real world results. You think you've taken medicine to help cure your cancer, and therefore your mind cures the cancer, or it goes the other way and your mind makes your body have a adverse reaction to the medication. The shit Holla Forums is believing in right now is not just memetics, they are legit believing in magic in the purest sense of the word. Or least some of them do. They fully believe in the egyptian frog god named "Keke".

November 4, 2016 - 16:16

Gabriel Cooper

Obviously I meant kek.

November 4, 2016 - 16:17

Kayden Sanders

It will occur with Russia. It might even occur with China, but the route to war with them is less clear.

If the US ever killed Russian soldiers, or Russia killed US soldiers, which I am predicting will happen under HRC, I predict too that armed conflict will begin between these two countries. Again, the assumption that war is impossible will certainly lead to one.

November 4, 2016 - 16:18

Bentley Ward

Come on, we both know that cretin is not from here.

November 4, 2016 - 16:19

Dylan Rodriguez

Nigger, have you been to TJ? There's already a wall there, or at least a border fence, and you still can't move freely between borders. Its the reason why the El Toro Y on the 405 is one of the busiest freeway intersections on Earth. Trump putting a permanent wall there and stricter rules on border movement wont change shit except for keeping more illegals out

November 4, 2016 - 16:19

Angel Sullivan

There is already a wall on the tijuana border.

November 4, 2016 - 16:20

Asher Price

Tell me when the last time America went to war with Russia was

That's right. It never has. And we were in a cold war not too historically long ago that was a lot hotter than this.

We aren't going to war with Russia, I don't know which joker thought that was realistic, but I want to ring their neck

November 4, 2016 - 16:21

Isaac Miller

Oops misread taht.

November 4, 2016 - 16:21

Joshua Collins

God damn women are stupid.

November 4, 2016 - 16:21

Jace Peterson

The wall Trump currently suggests should exist is higher than the TJ wall, ergo additions are going to be made I suppose.

It's hard to make out what height he fucking wants the thing

November 4, 2016 - 16:22

Dylan Sanchez

So all those American troops in Ukraine were just there on a peace mission?

November 4, 2016 - 16:23

Luis Gonzalez

What the hell makes you think we're going to war with a nuclear armed state when we could just keep to the middle east and play geopolitics with each other. I'm honestly curious what makes you think this is possible.

November 4, 2016 - 16:23

Adam Hughes

The thing is, placebos will only work so well when the economic base continues to deteriorate. Economic crisis brings about ideological crisis.

November 4, 2016 - 16:23

Jason Nguyen

They were sent there probably for the same reason it was publicly reported on. To spook the Russians.

There is no way, no how, not ever in a trillion years, ever going to be a state to state fire fight between two super powers in Europe again. It won't happen, not now, not next year, not in the near future.

Nobody has interest in doing so. Not the US or the Russians.

November 4, 2016 - 16:25

Alexander Phillips

People think there is going to be a war with Russia because Hillary keeps spelling out the fact that she wants to go to war with Russia. She has never spoken about Russia in the last year and not also built a case for going to war with them at the same time. She talks about the need to stop Russian aggression at any cost. She talks about retaliating against Russia on cyber and military fronts. There is no way you can hear her talk about Russia and not hear calls for war.

The only reason you don't think she will is because it would be the most horrific evener of the 21st century and you refuse to believe it could happen. Well buckle up, bitch.

November 4, 2016 - 16:26

Logan Barnes

You know WW1 was called the war to end all wars for the same reasons you espouse here right?

November 4, 2016 - 16:27

Adrian Wood

Stop being such a humourless wetbag you autist.

Like in the Korean war?

November 4, 2016 - 16:27

Isaiah Robinson

Think for a second about this for a moment.

The US has a firm interest in maintain the US led international order. US foreign policy has no mission besides that. It has no mission to maintain peace whatsoever. Since Russia wants to establish their own international order over countries on their border, you can see the source of conflict, correct.

November 4, 2016 - 16:29

Blake Gray

She probably is spilling it on purpose. Do you know how much of geopolitics is lying a lot. Basically all of geopolitics is lying and posturing.

She can state all she wants at the end of the day shit still is just not happening. She's probably doing it for a reason we don't know about, plans within plans and such.

The fact it wasn't, was not the fault of the US or Russia.

But of the Eternal Kraut

November 4, 2016 - 16:29

Cooper Powell

You mean the war that drafted China?

November 4, 2016 - 16:29

Carson Gray

She's not lying. We know her plans because we know her secret communications thanks to a certain journalist she wouldn't mind seeing assassinated.

November 4, 2016 - 16:30

Leo Cruz

Yes, but a war with the United States is a war Russia would lose, or either side would lose.

It wouldn't be very constructive is my point, particularly to order.

So, the US sends some soldiers and the media mass reports on it for exactly the intended reason, to spook.

November 4, 2016 - 16:31

Christian Cox

What?

November 4, 2016 - 16:31

Ryan Turner

How do you know? For all we know all this is, is creating a conflict in fucking Kyrgyzstan. That's more realistic than a war with Russia.

I really still doubt it.

November 4, 2016 - 16:32

Lucas Hill

So is anyone prepared for the absolute shitstorm that will occur if Trump becomes president and stormfags start shitposting on our boards?

November 4, 2016 - 16:32

Elijah Johnson

Who'd have thunk someone who supports Marxist-Leninists also supports an Imperialist? :^)

November 4, 2016 - 16:33

Aiden Lee

Prickly will just ban them all as always

November 4, 2016 - 16:34

Hunter Rodriguez

Why does America feel so confident fighting Russia? They'd win if we're counting winning as the same criteria Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan were won.

That is, after getting their shit pushed in by the Russians for a few years on their home turf they would leave.

November 4, 2016 - 16:34

Julian Williams

Wanna know how I know you're a fucking faggot?

November 4, 2016 - 16:35

Nolan Rogers

This is the second pillar of your argument, that Russia would never go to war with the US because Russia is supposedly too weak. The other one is that Russia would never war with the US because the idea is too scary to think about. Neither will stop war from occurring and acting as if they are true, as US policy does, can only lead to escalation.

November 4, 2016 - 16:35

Tyler Edwards

It doesn't.

But that wasn't direct war. And war has changed a fair bit since Vietnam, and even Iraq and Afghanistan. It is basically about drone strikes.

I doubt Clinton will deviate much from Obama's neoliberal policies.

America has the strongest military on the planet.

Not to say that Russia is weak, but going to direct war with the United States is geopolitical suicide and you would have to bring out the nukes. And nobody, and I do mean nobody, is considering using a nuke on Earth or in heaven right now.

So what else do we have

We have playing geopolitics like we have.

Like I told you is likely to happen.

They actually will. Because why fight a war when you can fight proxy wars. To work outside of that frame of reference is insane since all our strategy is built on that frame of reference and has been since World War II. And it's adapted specifically to that purpose.

November 4, 2016 - 16:39

John Hernandez

How can we have a revolution when we don't socialize.

Shit, you can't say Socialism without "social"

November 4, 2016 - 16:39

Ethan Sullivan

Ingesting massive amounts of propaganda and trying to prove your relevance to yourself through meaningless posts and likes all the while having all of your information stored and categorized by big brother is not socializing.

November 4, 2016 - 16:45

Lucas Baker

Hence why the Shillery is secretly, or not so secretly, waving the red white and blue dick in front of the Russians right now. The US is also big friends with the Saudis and consumes the most oil, primarily theirs. There's also the war in Syria for building pipelines. Do the math.

Imageboards are superior tbh.

November 4, 2016 - 16:47

Joseph Reed

So in other news the Trump campaign just got hit with a restraining order

November 4, 2016 - 16:47

William Thompson

I socialize right now, even if it's with a fag like you.

November 4, 2016 - 16:54

Owen Parker

Oh good, it's the 80's again

November 4, 2016 - 17:11

Brandon Wright

No, you meant "Keke" and we all laughed at you.

November 4, 2016 - 17:20

Zachary Fisher

LOL WUT! Every war in Asia the US has been involved with they've lost.

except Desert Storm 1 but come on that was barely a war.

While it's true Russia's military is significantly weaker than the US', all the tech in the world can't defeat geography. Not to mention how worn out the military is from Iraq and Afghanistan.

A war with Russia would almost certainly mean a draft for the US. The US would be coming to Russia to fight, not vica versa. Plus all the other commitments the US military has around the world means a war with Russia is one the US would almost certainly lose, either with Russia, or with other theaters they have a presences in. This is exactly how Rome fell.

November 4, 2016 - 17:21

Aaron Cook

Lmao, link?

November 4, 2016 - 17:25

Lucas Evans

You have a point, but I wonder, isn't Russia also being taxed to shit with the Ukraine war and such?

November 4, 2016 - 17:29

Colton Torres

Eh probably no crazier than free mason shit. Also was this "spirit cooking" anywhere near halloween by chance?

November 4, 2016 - 17:30

Aiden Barnes

Obviously

But when there's a platform with most of the developed world connected to it, shouldn't you use it to propagate your ideas as much as possible

Anyway it's not like the feds don't track the IP addresses of people they think are important no one here

November 4, 2016 - 17:32

Logan Carter

Hey now the Korean War was a stalemate, and that's only because MacArthur pushed his luck.

November 4, 2016 - 17:33

Gabriel Moore

It's literally an art project by a famous artist

November 4, 2016 - 17:39

Logan Green

Look it up. Trump got it in Ohio for voter intimidation. Can't set up armed guards around polling stations with the intent to intimidate.

What's funnier to me is Trump's lawyer for this particular instance was stuttering and looking four words out lowd because he didn't expect the outcome

November 4, 2016 - 17:42

Jackson Ramirez

Nah,it was a 'don't break the law and that means Clinton camp too' job, not going to stop people sinnering.

November 4, 2016 - 17:46

Blake Brown

Yes, each ice age (we're currently in the Pliocene-Quaternary) is split into glacial and interglacial periods. Essentially, while AGW has caused temperatures and CO2 levels to reach heights unprecedented for millions of years, the natural cycles of the present ice age have continued in a somewhat altered form. Some time after we get AGW under control to keep from turning the Earth into a primeval burning hell, we'll be confronted with the end of our (most likely artificially extended) deglaciated warm period.

I think you actually meant to say "quantum observer effect", which uses a completely different sense of the word "observer", so the entire idea of quantum consciousness is essentially a result of laymen being confused by an innocent misnomer.

Daily reminder that illegal immigration is a meme. While it isn't totally insignificant, with ~10 million estimated, it is utterly dwarfed by legal immigration and over-the-border outsourcing like Maquiladora.

What people are worried about with Shillary's warmongering isn't a boots-on-the-ground direct war with Russia/China, it's an Operation Canadian Bacon-style revival of Cold War posturing, expensive proxy wars, the draft, nuclear weapons, and the brinksmanship to make them MAD.

November 4, 2016 - 18:03

Robert Rodriguez

this election is like the producers where both sides keep sabotoging themselves on purpose but it somehow helps them

November 4, 2016 - 18:04

Landon Martin

Did my early voting for Stein today.

Going to spend tuesday getting fucked up and wishing I could get a cool gf to read books with instead of fucking liberals I meet on Tinder. What about you faggots?

November 4, 2016 - 18:05

Anthony Walker

It was a specific restraint against the Trump campaign in Ohio state specifically

November 4, 2016 - 18:05

Elijah James

The only thing that did was push the DMZ further south. I mean damn, NK was jumping in and out of China hitting US forces and using China as a big brother shield.

MacArthur either would have let himself get cucked by NK's guerrilla tactics or charged at them directly. China was going to get involved in the Korea War one way or another. That fact pretty much assured either a US lose or stalemate. Technically they're still at war.

November 4, 2016 - 18:05

Cameron Clark

Speak for yourself. Hillary if fucking reckless, and her Wall Street masters even moreso. The wikileaks so they ain't high minded master strategic thinkers.

Wall Street wants a new pipeline to the Western European market and couldn't give a fuck less how many lives it winds up costing due to Russia reacting to that.

November 4, 2016 - 18:09

Easton Thomas

The deathtoll from a few years of WWI or WWII "hot war" between superpowers was peanuts compared to decades of meatgrinder proxy "wars" in 3rd-world cockroach nations, not to mention the potential nuclear apocalypse that was within inches every day thanks to such antics.

November 4, 2016 - 18:18

Andrew Walker

What's the movie from I've seen it before

Forgot the name

November 4, 2016 - 18:21

Carter Butler

So basically, climate change will still bring extreme heat, but it might only be in the short term? From extreme heat to extreme cold basically? sorry, lamen af. Also a bit skeptical since I hear a similar argument coming from conservatives that we are about to enter another ice age.

November 4, 2016 - 18:22

Sebastian Adams

The DMV still has my address as a place that I haven't lived at in almost 5 years, so registering to vote was a bit of a problem. I haven't voted since 2004 anyways(voted for Bush to piss off my then girlfriend) and I won't ever vote again. I'll be spending this upcoming Tuesday doing what I'd be doing on any other Tuesday, with the exception of posting tons of smug shitposts on Holla Forums about how BTFO they all are once Trump gives his concession speech.

November 4, 2016 - 18:35

Luke Bell

Namedropped right in the post, Operation Canadian Bacon.

Yes, it's even a Holla Forums meme, but the only point they're actually mistaken on is that if we simply continue with AGW everything will just work itself out. We have to be intentional, both to ensure we don't artificially make things too hot (look at the graph and notice we're already hitting totally levels unprecedented for longer than all of human history), and to ensure nature doesn't make things too cold. Everything I said is mainstream climatology consensus, so feel free to look it up.

November 4, 2016 - 19:08

Adam Morris

So in other words, people are using a real thing as an excuse to be fucking lazy retards. Got it. Also, as I've said before, it's not the fact there aren't solutions, it's just people aren't doing them. There needs to be a massive upset at some point.

November 4, 2016 - 19:57

Jace Lopez

Holla Forums in a nutshell 2bh

November 4, 2016 - 20:08

Ryder Gonzalez

The 'massive upset' will be porky faced with its major financial centers underwater.

I give it two decades or so.

November 4, 2016 - 20:27

Jason Sanchez

it's more likely to further entrench the right-leaning establishment Dems, as they blame the election on purist B████Bros, Brocialists, Green voters, and other Whining Children who wouldn't fall in line for the True Progressive

November 4, 2016 - 20:28

Chase Young

You mean the ones on islands?

November 4, 2016 - 20:32

Leo Ward

Assange said in an interview that will be on RT this Saturday that Trump will not be allowed to win the election.

I take that to mean that Assange things that Trump will be the legitimate winner of the election but it will be stolen from him like in 2000 with Bush and Gore.

I'm with Assange on this one. Clinton will win but it will be revealed that Trump is the legitimate President.

I don't think the Right will let themselves be cucked like the Dems did in 2000 though. I think there will be violence on election day and beyond.

November 4, 2016 - 20:51

Connor Peterson

Getting in the face of my local state legislature winners and pressuring them to adopt a state amendment restricting political campaign contributions.

November 4, 2016 - 21:02

Owen Collins

BIG GUBERMANDS ACCOMIN!

November 4, 2016 - 21:03

Adam Sullivan

Hi CTR

November 4, 2016 - 21:06

Chase Myers

Clinton rigged the primary. What makes you think they won't do it in the general? The only question is how much rigging Trump will be doing himself.

November 4, 2016 - 21:07

Hudson Barnes

This is the least likely thing to happen imp

Honestly I think it's just going to play out close but normal

November 4, 2016 - 21:08

Matthew Diaz

For all his failing a good majority of Trumps supporters actually like him.

Hillary on the other hand is pretty much disliked like by all of here supports save the tiny bourgeois wing of the party. Not hard to imagine Trump winning with dynamics like that.

November 4, 2016 - 21:10

Wyatt Young

wrong, hilary's base of support inside middle/upper class suburban trophy wives actually like her and support her 100%

however these groups are a small minority now, compared to thirty years ago

November 4, 2016 - 21:22

Cooper Hernandez

Current consensus places it at about a half foot by that time, and perhaps 3 feet by 2100. Even the worst imaginable scenarios for centuries from now (barring some kind of runaway scenario like a clathrate gun or sea current inversion) with full melt, top out around 20 feet.

It will be very bad, but it won't be that bad, and it'll take quite a while.

And on the other hand, the vast majority of Trump voters, much like the vast majority of Clinton voters, dislike both candidates, but loathe the other even more.

November 4, 2016 - 21:32

Aiden Lee

I went to the Hillary rally at ASU on Tuesday I think. There were maybe 500 people there. Phoenix is a big city, and I've heard that her other Rallies have had as much or fewer people.

If she's so well liked by her supporters why can't she get more people to her rallies. Trump's rally in Arizona on the other hand I heard was much larger. Regardless the videos of Trump rallies do appear to be significantly larger.

I voted for Jill BTW

November 4, 2016 - 21:34

Jordan Nelson

Because they're middle class suburban trophy wives, they don't do rallies because they're all older than 30 and that's for their daughters to do. It's not a bad strategy on Hilary's part, these people are the great "silent majority" that gave us every President since Nixon. But they're not a majority anymore due to the shit economy.

November 4, 2016 - 21:36

Jacob Price

Phoenix is a huge city. You saying only 500 of her supports could be arsed to come out in a city of like 3 or 4 million.

I bet you like only half of them were even Hillary supporters since it was held on campus.

You're just talking out your ass. Her supporters don't like her. Meanwhile Trumps rally in July brought traffic to a stand still

November 4, 2016 - 21:43

Jayden Evans

Yes. One does not need to attend a concert (what a rally effectively is) to support a candidate. It's the quiet ones that matter the most.

Try talking to random mothers at a PTA meeting or something.

November 4, 2016 - 21:46

Brayden Jones

I'm guessing the methane being released from the melting ice is an accelerate is also factored in?

November 4, 2016 - 21:47

Kayden Harris

In the DNC, Clinton is queen

But in America politics overall she's just another fish in the sea

November 4, 2016 - 23:30

Michael Bennett

there are fucktons of women voting for her just because she's a woman

November 5, 2016 - 00:02

Michael Ward

youtube.com/watch?v=a42OO3MzdUM

top
fuckin
kek

November 5, 2016 - 00:26

Josiah Diaz

Why then is almost the whole sea trying to save this one fish? Of course she's just a cog, but she's pretty important one.

November 5, 2016 - 00:27

Carter Evans

that's obvious satire m80

November 5, 2016 - 00:37

Jackson Lee

during the Russian Civil War the United States sent troops to Eastern Siberia.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberian_Intervention

November 5, 2016 - 00:42

Cooper Peterson

...

November 5, 2016 - 00:49

Chase Powell

snopes.com/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/
independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/jane-doe-donald-trump-child-rape-alleged-lawsuit-dropping-steve-baer-jeffrey-epstein-a7398946.html
nydailynews.com/news/national/calif-woman-accusing-trump-child-rape-break-silence-article-1.2855631
independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/alleged-child-rape-sexual-assault-donald-trump-victim-jane-doe-statement-lisa-bloom-a7394516.html
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

November 5, 2016 - 01:50

Xavier Ross

What took them so long?

November 5, 2016 - 02:01

William Myers

Any theories as to what's going on here?

November 5, 2016 - 02:10

Ryder Brown

If talking about the woman, then think of this way, ever sine after some woman come out and admitted to be mosulated by trump, other women has come out and admitted that they were molested by him (like a domino effect), with most of them being even felt like they do nothing about it because trump's wealth and power alone and some even thought to excuse the assault, but thanks to the other woman coming out, we might know now that trump a pedophile.
youtube.com/watch?v=uqFMpW1TzjU

November 5, 2016 - 02:20

Chase Fisher

Also entirely possible Trump gave her a large sum of money to keep her quiet and to drop charges.

November 5, 2016 - 02:37

Jack James

And if you're talking about the lawsuit in general, then i have no clue as well, beside america being oligarchy now, trump's wealth and with his skills as con man ie: trump university.
But ether way, this need lawsuit need to happen earlier.

Yeah that too.
Holy hell, now that an another thing could had happen to those woman include the child.

November 5, 2016 - 02:45

Adrian Barnes

oops. looks like someone didn't get the memo

November 5, 2016 - 02:45

Isaac Ward

uhhhh i'm kinda dumb here, what's going on?
this woman dropped her claim, presumably being paid off or threatened, and this is a surprise?

November 5, 2016 - 03:16

Ryder Rodriguez

it's a surprise that it's getting so much attention considering that Bill Clinton is also mixed up in that scandal

November 5, 2016 - 03:24

Camden Cox

So, political party and chance of winning aside - Stein or S█████?

November 5, 2016 - 05:00

Nicholas Foster

sanders for me. i think he's actually a socialist but just hides his power level
plus more charisma for riling up the proles

November 5, 2016 - 05:09

Jack Hall

Does he hide his power level inside his Audi R8?

November 5, 2016 - 05:19

Landon Rodriguez

You won't find love through pre-arranged dating services just like you wouldn't find love in pre-arranged marriages. Meet comrades IRL and be prepare to fall in love.

November 5, 2016 - 05:20

Lucas Moore

snopes.com/bernie-sanders-audi-8/

November 5, 2016 - 06:19

Owen Thomas

Remember that after Trump wins, we need to be ready to stage a coup on the Democratic Party. Hilary and her friends must go.

November 5, 2016 - 07:43

Ethan Johnson

Any time Democrats held the executive office for consecutive presidents in the last century, it was because the standing president had died.

November 5, 2016 - 07:49

Connor Gutierrez

holy you must be blind and an idiot

November 5, 2016 - 08:06

Jason Gomez

She's Moby Fucking Dick

November 5, 2016 - 08:13

Sebastian Ward

Sanders votes like a Democrat and speaks like a social democrat, but in his heart of hearts he's a democratic socialist, which is why he never stopped calling himself one. In 1979 he made a documentary about Eugene Debs that borders on the reverential. To some extent his entire political career is an attempt to resurrect the ghost of Debs.

If he lived in a European country where socdem is the norm, he wouldn't hide his power level, but you can't get elected to the US Senate on an actual socialist platform, even in a state like Vermont.

November 5, 2016 - 09:38

Matthew Hall

If you know anything about how the State Department functions, you know that there wouldn't be really much purpose of Clinton not being pushed into the position of president since Clinton was the one who merged and mended the split between the intelligence community and executive branch-directly mended SOCOM Special Mission Units or JSOC.

And the use of single strike Drones as opposed to human soldiers.

Trump doesn't know any of that so obviously he wouldn't be the primary choice, unless some people within the intelligence community and military brass still have some sort of shit going on and want an easily malleable Bush 2.0 to just be an empty headed fool for people around him to manipulate.

So you see a more primary focus being put on Clinton in marketing her heavily.

That's really all there is.

There's not as much political parties achieving end goals than political parties who like their deep states and economies run one similar way or another.

It's professional wrestling.

This seems like it all doesn't make much sense regarding your post, but more or less, Clinton is probably dead set on being president at this point for a reason.

November 5, 2016 - 09:40

Aiden Rodriguez

In an European country he would be just another member of an irrelevant leftist party that can't do shit. In America where elections are a reality show he at least got a lot of young people fired up.

Isn't Hillary better for them because she's even more insane than them? They don't even have to manipulate her.

November 5, 2016 - 09:57

Jose Roberts

tfw my community college is woke asf

November 5, 2016 - 09:58

Brody White

She's not "insane", she's possibly more sane than them. There are people deep within the state itself you don't want to meet.

November 5, 2016 - 10:00

Isaac Williams

hang onto that paper

November 5, 2016 - 10:00

Benjamin Lee

After all, she saw what her Husband did with the State Department, where at the time JSOC and the Intel Community were still separate Pre-Obama Years, she managed to keep the rift and make new structure.

Which is why she's constantly fellated by all these politicians.

In this sense she's served a crucial position in going on into the future in how the State Department functions, so the neccesity for her to be president BECAUSE of her role in the State Department becomes clear.

So, why she wants to be president becomes clear too. She probably had the ambition from losing and becoming Secretary of State, and Obama probably saw it.

I have no idea where Trump fits into all this. But honestly, truth being stranger and fiction, since Clinton and Trump were friends before I wouldn't see it any other way than Trump being a KIND of plant, if not out right.

Election might be far more fixed than you think.

Yeah hang onto it.

November 5, 2016 - 10:04

Ian Parker

Like what? I haven't seen Hillary showing any limits. She's willing to obliterate whole countries if it suits her. She's also quite stupid as we've seen in emails. She doesn't even know what doing something means in practice and what are the consequences, let's just do it. Her people have to constantly hold her back.

November 5, 2016 - 10:11

Zachary Ross

You haven't seen most of Hillary and neither have any of us. All we have are those email leaks, and even that hasn't been anything to go by.

She managed to mend the necessary Cold War rift between Defense and Intel, so somehow she must have enormous patience and control. Remember, people within the state do constantly pat her on the ass about being a good statesman.

She probably is focused on so many different details, other details are forgot about. It could be, that you're right, she is stupid and really didn't consider a lot. The deep state seems really insular to me.

Oh there are plenty of people in the State Department like that already.

Like I said, probably more so. There have been more gung-ho stereotypes in the military now and in the cold war past then you'd really be comfortable with.

November 5, 2016 - 10:15

Levi Martinez

r8 lads

November 5, 2016 - 10:58

Easton Clark

...

November 5, 2016 - 11:00

Hunter Brooks

10/10. Post to Holla Forums.

November 5, 2016 - 11:05

Julian Adams

you just killed a bunch of non-burgers
10/10

November 5, 2016 - 11:10

Jaxon Barnes

I fully support the Democrats rigging the election against Trump. Republicans shouldn't have the right to vote and the democraps should always win

November 5, 2016 - 11:13

Michael Foster

gonna send you some selfies of me and the drone strikes you just sent

November 5, 2016 - 11:15

Ayden Murphy

I don't think there should be elections anymore, nobody believes in them anymore anyway and nobody cares either. It's waaay too costly for what is now just a simple ritual. I recommend creating a special government organization that selects the next president whenever the old one doesn't fit the job anymore.

November 5, 2016 - 11:22

Evan Bennett

Of the little control we have, we have it, and it's not going away. So we can use it for little good its got.

Its just the choice is playing 3 dimensional strategic chess at which parts of your soul do you want carved out or not. WhIch parts of your soul can you carve out, which gangrenous parts can you sell.

November 5, 2016 - 11:25

Leo Young

Are you an accelerationfag by any chance?

November 5, 2016 - 11:28

Benjamin Hall

We should do what other countries do.

We elect the congressmen and they select the prime minister. People in this country care too much about their lady gagas and Taylor swifts to make an informed choice for the ruler of the ""*~*~*~*~Free~*~*~*~*~*~" world

November 5, 2016 - 11:28

Jayden Reed

It's been this way for a while now. One of the presidents half this moronic nation cherishes was a god damn cowboy actor

November 5, 2016 - 11:32

Nathaniel Thompson

What the hui

November 5, 2016 - 11:33

Lucas Cooper

I will abstain. Trump is just a horrible bigot, and Hillary is too corrupt.

November 5, 2016 - 11:37

Lucas Collins

WHAT THE FUG IS THIS SHIT

November 5, 2016 - 11:44

Hunter Turner

Hey greeny user, think we could make another thread? I wanna talk about the 'extinction by 2030' meme.

November 5, 2016 - 11:46

Hudson Turner

why are you so new to art

November 5, 2016 - 11:49

Logan Adams

Fuck this shit. What is that thing on the corner? I have just saw it. WTF is wrong with the elites? Tell me that that's not a kid!!??

November 5, 2016 - 11:50

Ethan Walker

It's a famous artist doing famous art

Are you going to be shocked when you learned van gogh drew nude women and cut his ear off this is some simple shit

November 5, 2016 - 11:52

Gabriel Parker

I remember when I was 12.

November 5, 2016 - 11:54

Hunter Cooper

The Taliban wasn't even an organization until like 1992, but okay.

November 5, 2016 - 11:55

Jason Clark

infowars.com/hillary-regularly-attended-witchs-church-clinton-insider-claims/

exposingsatanism.org/showthread.php/822-Hillary-Clinton-s-Witchcraft

November 5, 2016 - 12:05

Daniel Reed

...

November 5, 2016 - 12:06

Asher Morgan

Whoa! Hol up! If Alex Jonestein is covering this it must be legit.

November 5, 2016 - 12:10

Adrian Nguyen

...

November 5, 2016 - 12:10

Tyler Ramirez

Worst Presidents:
1.Herbert Hoover
2.Millard Fillmore
3.Ronald Reagan
4.John Quincy Adams
5.John F. Kennedy
6.George W. Bush
7.Jimmy Carter
8.Bill Clinton
9.Lyndon Johnson
10.Gerald Ford

Best Presidents:
1.Abraham Lincoln
2.FDR
3.Theodore Roosevelt
4.George Washington
5.John Adams
6.Harry S. Truman
7.Andrew Jackson
8.Woodrow Wilson
9.Thomas Jefferson
10.Barack Obama (admit it)

November 5, 2016 - 12:12

Thomas Reed

Andrew Jackson should be at the top of the list for best presidents and Barack Obama honestly has no place being on the list of best presidents at all. BO went full puppet mode just like all the other recent presidents before him.

November 5, 2016 - 12:14

Austin Nelson

Eh he still killed Bin Laden and passed somewhat of what you could call Universal Healthcare.

Better than dubya

November 5, 2016 - 12:15

Dylan Foster

On election day she will have Odd Future dress up as the California Raisins, so as to calm the female super-predators.

From the US Attorney General to Donna Brazile to the "black church" (black magic), she has exploited "PoC bodies" to deal with the less honorable components of her campaign.

November 5, 2016 - 12:16

Thomas Baker

...

November 5, 2016 - 12:18

Charles Morgan

God, I fucking hate Protestant reactionary scum.

November 5, 2016 - 12:21

Hudson Russell

Based B█████ redpilling all the classcucked liberals out there

November 5, 2016 - 12:21

Oliver Ross

Harry Truman was a 33° Mason, the only elected official in world history to drop an atomic bomb.

Andrew Jackson forced Native Americans westward.

Woodrow Wilson screened Birth of a Nation in the White House.

Progressive mouth breathers don't know shit.

November 5, 2016 - 12:25

John White

vimeo.com/71952791
2deep4u

Andrew Jackson best president tbh

November 5, 2016 - 12:27

Lincoln Perry

Yea, but it's not like Bin Laden was anything but a known CIA asset and scapegoat. Bin Laden was being kept right down the road from Pakistan's version of West Point and the ISI was fully aware that he was there. The killing of Bin Laden was nothing but a publicity stunt by Obama to try to secure some type of legacy. And the only thing his "universal healthcare" accomplished was raising the rates of insurance nationwide. And Guantanamo is still up and running.

November 5, 2016 - 12:27

Lincoln Morales

Love B████ but he's full of shit on that one. Fight me.

November 5, 2016 - 12:28

Andrew Bell

Former occult-fag here. I was in O.T.O. and was actually being groomed to join A∴A∴. Thankfully I got out of that shit before it completely ruined my life. Anyway, what Marina is doing here is not occultism or magick whatsoever. It's like /x/-tier rune charging, but worse. It's actually profane as fuck and an insult to practicing occultists. The same goes with Holla Forumsfags who actually think they are doing magick with their stupid Kek memes.

Also, Crowley was not Satanist.

November 5, 2016 - 12:29

Isaac Gutierrez

*tips tinfoil hat and watches alex jones while thinking 9/11 was an inside job*

November 5, 2016 - 12:37

Dylan Hernandez

Thank you for stating the obvious. Also, epic spacing! One upvote for you my friend :)

November 5, 2016 - 12:39

Mason Green

Not a burger, but I've heard "Universal Healthcare" is a joke that only benefits corporations while it will now take even longer to get it implemented the right way.
Osama wasn't "the evil guy", he was against America and far smarter than al-Baghdadi & co. When ISIS is destroyed all these new recruits will go back to al-Qaeda and we'll see better terrorism return. For the western empire letting ISIS become an actual state would be a better alternative, but fortunately they are too blinded by oil.
Anyway, Obama was worse than Bush overall, he extended previous operations and invented new ones. Drone "wars" and the expansion of NSA are the achievements of his presidency.

November 5, 2016 - 12:40

Oliver Jones

Fucking gay

November 5, 2016 - 12:41

Camden Jenkins

You're a shitty poster and you should fuck off back to /r/socialism already

November 5, 2016 - 12:46

Sebastian Nelson

>>>/x/

November 5, 2016 - 12:47

Anthony Perry

You should have a different flag for shitposting TBH. The one your using is reserved for intellectuals.

November 5, 2016 - 12:48

Samuel Peterson

I'm okay with this

November 5, 2016 - 12:48

Matthew Russell

1984 1984 1984 1984

BIG GUBERMANDS ACCOMIN

POLICE SCANNER NOISES COMMIN FROM THE AIR VENT

November 5, 2016 - 12:54

Asher Fisher

Why doesn't the faggot BO enable ID's? It's pretty frustrating to hide shitposts manually

November 5, 2016 - 13:14

Adrian Smith

It's not as simple as S█████ describes it. There have been studies showing that Trump supporters have incomes higher than the median and are more likely to be small business owners (i.e. petit bourgeoisie) rather than the proles. And yes, there is of course a reason why the white working class is largely supporting Trump but the black working class isn't.

However, there is a need to challenge the tendency of establishment liberals to reduce Trump voters to a strawman, thereby turning the 2016 election into a no-brainer contest between "common decency" and a "basket of deplorables." This is a very comforting narrative for liberals, as allows them to mount a passionate defense of the status quo while patting themselves on the back for doing so. It also gives them a blueprint to defend against future leftist challenges to the status quo by using the same idpol rhetoric against them, as has already been done against S█████ and Corbyn.

Also, even if we accept that the majority of Trump voters are racist and sexist, what then? Do we just keep shouting "racist" and "sexist" at them and tell them to stop being those things? How has that worked so far? Social pressure has its uses, but it won't work on all people, and for some it will only radicalize them further. Spend more than 5 minutes on Holla Forums and you'll notice how many of them are drawn to the far right because of the suffocating smugness of contemporary liberalism and urban cosmopolitanism. Yes, their anger is misplaced, but I can't say it's entirely unjustified.

The thing that bothered me the most about Clinton's "basket of deplorables" speech wasn't the word "deplorable," but "iredeemable." Yes, some people would've been neo-Nazis regardless of whatever circumstances they grew up in, and those people will likely never change. But it's a mistake to write off such a large segment of the population without even attempting to show them where their economic interests truly lie. If you're doing that, you've given up before you've even started, which is pretty much the slogan of the Democratic Party so I guess it makes sense.

November 5, 2016 - 13:18

Nicholas Lewis

It wouldn't be anonymous anymore.

November 5, 2016 - 13:18

Oliver Edwards

shitty freech/goon no-argument

November 5, 2016 - 13:19

Zachary Ortiz

Sun bombs dropped when?

November 5, 2016 - 14:03

Connor Roberts

telesurtv.net/english/news/OAS-Deploys-Election-Observers-to-Monitor-US-Presidential-Vote-20161105-0005.html
The OAS is actually sending election observers to the U.S. to monitor for election fraud

November 5, 2016 - 14:12

Jordan Price

We /thirdworld/ now

November 5, 2016 - 14:15

Blake Ross

LOL. We suck.

November 5, 2016 - 14:16

Gavin Thomas

Neorenaissance when?

1000% agreed, lumping together all of your political opponents with overbroad pop-psych memes lowers ideological discourse to the level of catcalling highschool cliques. Grownups have different opinions for different reasons.

November 5, 2016 - 14:46

Elijah James

Good post, comrade

November 5, 2016 - 14:48

Henry Collins

They've been saying that for the last 100 years. You don't know what art is, or, what kind of art you really want

November 5, 2016 - 14:56

Noah Wood

Acceptable evidence against Hillary: The podesta emails and George soros shit

Unacceptable: Child sex ring conspiracy theory garbage, Benghazi, WWIII, and Voter Fraud

It's amazing how tinfoils manage to turn some evidence into the 1984 one-world government conspiracy theories about how Hillary shook hands with satan once and is feeding the blood of newborn jews to him

November 5, 2016 - 15:27

Kevin Barnes

It doesn't matter what's true but what works.

November 5, 2016 - 15:34

Hudson Bell

Art is an idea conveyed through human effort, "look ma', I'm so edgy/sophisticated/tax-exempt!" isn't really a message, and if it doesn't require anything from the "artist" over what the average fart joke does, why elevate it?

Modern art's dominance in high culture is a result of capitalism, and will vanish as soon as wealthy patrons no longer have a reason to desire "assets" that can be imbued with "value" absent any investment of rarity or genius, "donated" to each other, and written off as "charity" for monetary and social gain.

Given the quality of the mainstream attacks against Trump in their fervent need to avoid attacking his policy (which they either totally agree with or can't mention without drawing damning questions), I think the latter sort of gutter-crawling might just decide the election.

November 5, 2016 - 15:35

Jayden Morgan

That is the dumbest thing i've ever head ever.

November 5, 2016 - 15:36

Colton Fisher

🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 I #VOTED 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

November 5, 2016 - 15:38

William Evans

Thanks. How old are you btw? The older you are the bigger this achievement is.

November 5, 2016 - 15:39

Leo Robinson

Best one yet. Congratulations.

November 5, 2016 - 15:40

Samuel Rivera

Yeah you're just posting recycled opinions that aren't very versed in art. This is more along the lines of postmodern art. This is modern art.

Neither, are incapable of being art.

This for example, IS Modern Art. It's called the Girl with Mandolin Fanny Tellier, from 1910 by Picasso, who was also a communist. It's an example of Cubism, part of the avant-garde movements of art, and that itself is a hallmark of Modernist Art.

So in other words, if you knew about art you wouldn't use the term modern and post modern inter changeably.

November 5, 2016 - 15:40

Nicholas Ramirez

reactionary neofascist scum

November 5, 2016 - 15:59

Ethan Rodriguez

...

November 5, 2016 - 16:01

Adam Allen

Didn't realize I had posted it earlier since 8ch was broken. I was going to vote Stein or write in a meme but the neo-liberal propaganda had me like

November 5, 2016 - 16:04

Elijah Scott

reeeeeeeee

November 5, 2016 - 16:05

Chase Torres

...

November 5, 2016 - 16:10

Jason Miller

I posted this to Holla Forums and said that it was me. It's already generating salt. Thanks for the picture.

>>>Holla Forums8085951

November 5, 2016 - 16:29

Easton Jones

I hope you did it only to piss us off. In that case 10/10.

November 5, 2016 - 16:31

Austin Collins

Subtlety of a hippo on PMS

November 5, 2016 - 16:36

Anthony Gutierrez

A.K.A.: formless amateur garbage that desecrated the pages of trade magazines and the splash screens of software throughout the '80s and early '90s because it could be pumped out faster than the project lead could flip through a clip-art catalog for something more appropriate.

I'll bet, just like today's hipster indieshitters! The eternal pretentious twerp, confident in their subversiveness, because just like their ideological development, their "artistic" development consists of focusing on "context" and "message" to the total detriment of content and accomplishment.

Which, given the disposability of both their work and the "artists" themselves, makes them the perfect stooges for the establishment they're too busy narcasistically preening about how much deeper they are to actually attack. Much like all the nu-"left" postmodernist gobbledygook Holla Forums struggles against.

Modernism and postmodernism are indeed quite different, in fact, almost diametrically opposed, in other spheres such as philosophy. But in the sphere of art, both belong to a degredation of execution and results unprecedented in the entire history of art until the rise of capitalism.

November 5, 2016 - 16:40

Justin Barnes

Oh boy, imagine the salt when our Posadist candidate wins.

November 5, 2016 - 16:48

Christian Reed

I've been anxiously awaiting for that moment for over a year now.

November 5, 2016 - 16:54

William Watson

There's only one kind of salt anybody will get out of that

November 5, 2016 - 16:55

Jeremiah Richardson

WEW

November 5, 2016 - 16:58

Nathan Lopez

What a bunch of babies

November 5, 2016 - 17:02

Kayden Hall

t. Saul aliksky

November 5, 2016 - 17:05

Jonathan Garcia

They've been like that since the election started. They've easily chased away at least half of their original userbase through shitty moderation. Most of the people that post there now are plebbit refugees that came after the Trump campaign started.

November 5, 2016 - 17:06

John Mitchell

Good job for them they've still got the circlejerking "we are TRUE AND HONEST oldfags" shit going. This whole site became popular in 2014, how anyone ever believed the place wasn't crawling with newfags is beyond me.

November 5, 2016 - 17:17

John Gomez

I'm absolutely not going to praise Obama for passing the ACA instead of something actually good. Which he could have done, he just didn't want to. Remember the ACA passed without a single republican vote.

November 5, 2016 - 17:25

Lucas Cox

This is actually Pablo Picasso, a respected artist the world over, and an open communist, you really don't have a right to criticize.

You really need to read what you write, reflect on it, and think to yourself "Do I want to sound even more pretentious than the group of people I'm calling pretentious?"

That way you don't get hurt in the future by the edge you're wielding

"""""Pablo Picasso"""""""

Oh fuck off

November 5, 2016 - 17:50

Adam Sanders

The title of this video.

youtube.com/watch?v=LGwwTfZtgWU

November 5, 2016 - 17:56

Nathan Ross

Oh hey it's conservative propagandist #342341 Bill Whittle. The one who said Rome fell apart because they lost hope or some spooky shit, while blabbing on about muh gutral margizizmz.

November 5, 2016 - 18:06

Evan Perry

Yes, that is Holla Forums's rationale and modus operandi in a nutshell. Which is why they are fucking evil nihilists that need to be smashed.

November 5, 2016 - 18:07

Lincoln Williams

Trump rushed off stage. Assassination attempt?

nbcchicago.com/news/national-international/Donald-Trump-Rushed-Off-Stage-Nevada-400142601.html

November 5, 2016 - 18:12

Leo Howard

That's right, he killed Bin Laden. Not arrest and try by a jury. You know, the way justice is usually served. Assassinated. Against the wishes of the Pakistan government. Once again putting American interests over the national sovereignty of other countries.

November 5, 2016 - 18:14

Gabriel Cruz

Spooky

November 5, 2016 - 18:17

Joshua Young

Perhaps so, but a global agenda wouldn't do shit against the wishes of the people who live there.

November 5, 2016 - 18:20

Lucas Bell

youtube.com/watch?v=S9bmc1uKAz4

lmao

November 5, 2016 - 18:29

Jack Lopez

-13/4 you fucking retard. You have no excuse. You already went down the idiot road by voting, then you go next level retard by voting Clinton. Kansas isn't even a swing state so you don't even have that shitty excuse

November 5, 2016 - 18:38

Jacob Sullivan

that's neocon propaganda

November 5, 2016 - 18:40

Carson Walker

Yes, that was Hillary's son, which you never heard about because he was kept solely for rituals by the elites, behind the scenes. They cooked him.

Poor little Billie. ;~;

November 5, 2016 - 19:08

Isaiah Perez

I like to imagine what happened to him after they got him behind the curtain. If they could, they'd probably guillotine him.

November 5, 2016 - 19:30

Ian Ward

Yeah, Universal Healthcare is great. The Affordable Care Act, not so much. Basically Romneycare 2.0.

It did help me, since I was uninsured, working full time but still couldn't afford it. But a lot of people were mandated to buy it at inflated levels, because the insurance companies could charge basically whatever they wanted.

So, Universal Healthcare = good
ACA = eh

November 5, 2016 - 19:32

Eli Lopez

ACA is horrible but it's better than what we had before which was a big old NOTHING.

November 5, 2016 - 19:48

Jose Cruz

several dems blocked the public option. whether that means that obama didn't threaten them enough or whatever, i don't know

sorry i'm dumb

November 5, 2016 - 19:50

Jose Thompson

So am I going to die under a Trump Presidency? I have a jewish last name and ancestry.

What's going to happen to me?

November 5, 2016 - 19:51

Lucas Cooper

Don't worry. Trump's daughter converted to globalism herself. He's tight with you people.

November 5, 2016 - 19:54

Parker Peterson

Is this a joke? Trump loves Israeli cock.

November 5, 2016 - 19:58

Julian Parker

Trump is honestly the most Kosher candidate out of the 2. His family has gone full jewish, and he can't stop talking about how much he loves Israel. The jews literally give this guy awards for being such a good goyim. He even did campaign commercials for Netanyahu.

November 5, 2016 - 20:00

Carter Green

It's still anonymous if you aren't using a name.
I'm not sure how IDs work on 8ch but on textboards like 2ch and BAI they change every 24 hours and depend on the thread.

November 5, 2016 - 20:01

Gavin Price

Well at least i'm safe then.

My question is what do us leftists do when trumps enacts himself as fuhrer with the help of the CIA and FBI and America becomes even more fascist?

Are you guys going to tract us down and abduct us into secret communist bunkers while we plan our coup?

November 5, 2016 - 20:09

Isaiah Watson

Agreed. I had a small potential cancer scare in 2014, and was able to get necessary screening because of the ACA. I was uninsured from age 19 to 26. (I was insured through my job, but the illness made it so I couldn't work, so I lost it & gained medicaid through ACA) Also struggled with opiate addiction during that time, worst time of my life.

Not having access to dental care is also terrible for Americans. The ACA doesn't cover this for people, either, which is bullshit. I remember hearing about a 24 year old guy in a nearby town who died from an infected tooth, because he could only afford one RX, so he got the painkillers instead of the antibiotics(unwise, but he didn't think it would kill him). You shouldn't have to choose. And you shouldn't die from a completely treatable illness that just needs antibiotics in a "first world" country. Hell, I moved to a "third world" country & now have better access to healthcare. RXs are dirt fucking cheap here also.. And I don't need an RX to get basically whatever I want. So.. that's been both convenient & entertaining. :^)

November 5, 2016 - 20:11

Jaxson Martin

...

November 5, 2016 - 20:12

Carson Young

I don't think that's going to be a problem.
Number 1. Clinton is without a doubt going to win.
Number 2. Even if Trump did win, it would just be business as usual. The president doesn't make decisions anymore, he doesn't run the country, he's just a puppet for the globalists. And if one ever did get into office that tried to act independently, he'd get Kennedy'd.

At least try to stay in character while you're over here shitposting and pushing for your meme candidate. It makes it easier for all of us that are trying to pretend you're genuine.

November 5, 2016 - 20:17

Joshua Barnes

Regular FBI agents may dislike her, but she's got the higher ups of almost every agency in her pocket(as seen by Comey bending over backwards not to indict her, likely due to pressure from Lynch saying she wouldn't prosecute).

November 5, 2016 - 20:20

Samuel Diaz

you're never anonymous on the Internet

November 5, 2016 - 20:26

Sebastian Martin

...

November 5, 2016 - 20:27

Colton Nelson

Extreme…

November 5, 2016 - 20:27

Cameron Sanders

What do you mean?

I couldn't even understand what the rapper was saying. The acoustics were terrible.

November 5, 2016 - 20:28

Parker Martin

No wonder you're such an annoying shitposter

November 5, 2016 - 20:37

Jaxson Taylor

to be honest.. trump looks like he staged this
Ive been a lifelong trump supporter ever since he went down those escalators, but he's looking desperate and doing whatever he can to gain attention. Very narcissistic. He lost me

November 5, 2016 - 20:44

Eli Campbell

In case it wasn't clear, I wasn't one of the boys. I went in there and was like "what the hell are you kids doing?" but I didn't say anything because I didn't wanna seem like a jackass.

November 5, 2016 - 20:45

Lucas Edwards

Thanks for sharing.

but seriously, I had an epiphany moment when that "birther" resurgence was in the news. Hillary started the questions about Obama's "roots", then trump ran with it. Every time Hillary tanks in the polls, trump does something outrageous to steal the headlines. Fishy.

November 5, 2016 - 20:55

Mason Harris

Leave.

Too late, user.

November 5, 2016 - 20:57

Easton Carter

Wow, this is honestly the worst emotional appeal I've seen. Good try though!

November 5, 2016 - 21:03

Nolan Butler

>>>/reddit/

November 5, 2016 - 21:06

Kayden Butler

A CTR shill on Holla Forums. Never thought I'd see the day

November 5, 2016 - 21:19

Tyler Watson

many trump voters identify the problems that come with companies having far more leverage in employment markets. that is, build wall -> illegals out -> less cheap exploitable labor -> better working conditions
they just don't see the bigger picture

November 5, 2016 - 21:27

Joseph Lee

...

November 5, 2016 - 21:35

Isaac King

...

November 5, 2016 - 21:35

Chase Jones

Are you getting paid overtime?

November 5, 2016 - 21:37

Nicholas Cooper

I do it for freedom

November 5, 2016 - 21:38

Jeremiah Thompson

...

November 5, 2016 - 21:39

Brayden Anderson

Muh reddit text

November 5, 2016 - 21:44

Jose Morris

8ch.pl/inth

November 5, 2016 - 22:15

Jaxon Flores

Hate to xpost here but /freech/ really has upped their game with such low numbers see
Identical to >>>Holla Forums8089818

November 5, 2016 - 22:19

Zachary Flores

xposting is fine, especially when calling out bullshit or spamming.

November 5, 2016 - 22:21

Asher Rodriguez

What the sam diddly heck is /freech/ supposed to be anyway?

November 5, 2016 - 22:22

William Sullivan

They're desperately tring to become relevant as they're on their death knell. They tried getting Holla Forums to raid them a couple of weeks ago so their user count would go higher than 30, but everyone just laughed at them.

Just ignore them, they'll be dead by next year.

November 5, 2016 - 22:24

Isaiah Foster

A bunch of liberal weebs who got lost on their way to SomethingAwful.

November 5, 2016 - 22:25

Jason Rivera

shitposting X infiniti, shitting up other boards, trying to cause drama & infighting within other boards

November 5, 2016 - 22:28

Benjamin Parker

>Make shit up like Xposting

November 5, 2016 - 23:12

Angel Jones

Abbey Martin's got a new special all about John Podesta:

youtube.com/watch?v=9fat63bqvG8

November 5, 2016 - 23:13

Ethan Robinson

sup Holla Forums

low tier

November 5, 2016 - 23:20

Noah Wright

I'm honestly curious, what primeval backwater do you hail from?

Under a Trump reign of terror, we leftists will use the mayhem as cover to brutally purge liberal filth from among us, and emerge stronger than ever.

November 5, 2016 - 23:26

Zachary Morgan

I think that by "Universal Healthcare" he means the ACA, of which that is an eminently fair criticism. Don't think buddy mentioned whether he's got any health care at home or not.

November 5, 2016 - 23:29

Owen Turner

One of you bastards are /freech/ or possibly you're just one goon… Still, its time to fess up.

November 6, 2016 - 00:13

Eli Cook

I think it's safe to go with

Because I can't see /intil/ outing or blaming themselves, like the other poster. I used to deal with those fuckers on /n/ all the time. They'd constantly shill for Trump & make bogus arguments. I couldn't see an actual trump supporter spending all that time, day after fucking day, arguing for Trump on that board, even when the topic was unrelated to the news story.

The crab posting was kinda funny though.

November 6, 2016 - 00:18

Luis Adams

youtube.com/watch?v=wQSUSVI8dOA

Should I make a poopoo peepee joke or a Pajeet joke?

November 6, 2016 - 00:18

Benjamin Morales

Go with as Holla Forums, I mean. Wasn't clear.

November 6, 2016 - 00:19

David Ortiz

I bet I could sell Hillary's shit on ebay to some of her supporters.

November 6, 2016 - 00:30

Nolan Peterson

...

November 6, 2016 - 04:42

Lucas Anderson

Just do it comrade, but don't make Pepes, they are used by the alt-right mongrels

How much do you think they would pay for a solid turd? Serious question.

November 6, 2016 - 04:42

Lucas Hernandez

Take your retarded drama elsewhere.

Depends on with or without corn.

November 6, 2016 - 05:08

Anthony Rivera

I don't want drama bullshit and i don't expert for anyone to reply, i just post how i am disappointed in this shit and how there to post about the thread after the shit happen.

November 6, 2016 - 05:19

Chase Brooks

*no posts

November 6, 2016 - 05:20

Sebastian Peterson

Fair enough.

November 6, 2016 - 05:34

Justin Torres

salon.com/2016/11/04/the-dnc-is-gone-susan-sarandon-defends-vote-for-green-party-candidate-jill-stein/

November 6, 2016 - 05:34

Henry Clark

So according to Al Franken it's antisemitic to criticize the banking industry or to imply that they collude with government for favorable treatment. What do you guys think?

November 6, 2016 - 06:20

Austin Cox

Jews are communist, so it is antisemitic to criticize communism.

November 6, 2016 - 06:25

David Miller

I can't believe how much of a cocksucker this guy has become. I had some great laughs at Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot and Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them.

November 6, 2016 - 06:45

Jason Scott

Do you expect us to click that shit? Archive is your friend.

archive.is/mgwHc

November 6, 2016 - 06:48

Jaxson Williams

Based Aragorn is going Green too. Not sure this is the best use of Stein's time right now though.

youtube.com/watch?v=LBCn2su_8Uk

November 6, 2016 - 07:01

Isaac Lopez

You are actually a retard.

November 6, 2016 - 07:10

Elijah Phillips

Kill yourself

November 6, 2016 - 07:11

Angel Brooks

www reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5bew1h/wikileaks_calls_this_video_best_summary_by_far_of/

November 6, 2016 - 07:17

Juan Fisher

a great video that hurts a common enemy.

November 6, 2016 - 07:58

Easton Moore

Yeah. This shit kills me. When Trump went after international bankers a few weeks ago, he mentioned nothing about Jews but the entire media went, "He's attacking Jews!" I watched that speech live and never ever thought he was being anti-Semitic. As /pol would say, they tell on themselves. I'm still not 100% convinced there's a dark room full of Jews smoking cigars who run the world, but its also hard to ignore their prevalence in financial/political/cultural power centers and their group think.

November 6, 2016 - 07:59

Bentley Peterson

I think Jews are actually used as a kind of reverse scapegoat now. The system pushes Jewish bankers to the front in order to label any criticism against banks as anti-semitism. It's not that weird considering that neoliberalism was established after WW2 in the name of preventing "fascism" (even Keynesian economics were dangerous to them), so the success of American Jews post-WW2 was ideologically very beneficial for the neoliberal system, whereas before Jews very excluded in America - couldn't even get into good schools for example.
youtube.com/watch?v=oPr8GYUK2EE

November 6, 2016 - 08:17

John Robinson

Which country are you in now?

November 6, 2016 - 09:58

William Mitchell

Fuck off Holla Forums

November 6, 2016 - 10:07

Jaxon Rivera

I'm guessing India. I've heard you get a lot of stuff over the counter there, Europeans are ordering shit from there as well.

poor reading comprehension

November 6, 2016 - 10:10

Grayson Thompson

No, I read

Fuck off

November 6, 2016 - 10:17

Ayden Murphy

More like poor trolling comprehension!

November 6, 2016 - 10:19

Samuel Sullivan

You included more than one post.

November 6, 2016 - 10:21

Alexander Long

Yup. And there were two of the same person. one was saying Holla Forums and collectivism share a common enemy.

You really need to work on your poor reading comprehension.

November 6, 2016 - 10:23

James Miller

Reminder to Collect your Holla Forums posts for November 9th. We can never allow those fuckwits live down the fact that they supported an orange liberal form new york as their "savior".

November 6, 2016 - 10:24

Austin Brown

It's the whole purpose of identity politics, driving everything back to the identity of people rather than their actions. So any criticism against them is against who they are rather than what they do: Critizice Hillary? You're only doing it because she's a woman! Critizice a banker? You're only doing it because (Because Jew = Bank of course).
It's using the rejection of racism and sexism as a way to kill contestation. The question is, what will be killed first? Contestation of the system or rejection of racism and sexism?
It's exactly what happened in Gamergate on a smaller scale.

November 6, 2016 - 10:26

Christian Robinson

Romney would have won so easily this year. The Republicans ran him too early.

November 6, 2016 - 10:28

Caleb Moore

Have you even watched the teleSur video? The third post was mine where I said that the 20th century tragedy of Jews has been abused in order to block any actual criticism of the system.
I support certain forms of feminism, but it's reactions like that make all feminists seem like retarded witch hunters.

November 6, 2016 - 10:32

William Gomez

Romney is a rich and insanely boring shit pile who ran against a popular incumbent, just like John Kerry.

November 6, 2016 - 10:33

Isaiah Wilson

Also 4/pol/s 99999999 GET is coming too.

November 6, 2016 - 10:35

Jose Perez

So what? He'd be running against Hillary assuming he made out of the primary. Who knows, maybe Trump would've owned him by calling him Spineless Mitt or something.

November 6, 2016 - 10:37

Jeremiah Smith

If you want to talk about the way the market is currently, or how the government is structured, by all means, start.

But the only person dwelling on identity politics right now is you, and you're wanting more of it by throwing a hissy fit at someone accusing you of being a Holla Forums shill.

Be the change you want to see, because I'm fairly positive for the reading comprehension I don't have, I could probably hold a conversation on the topic of defense contractors to government spending a fuck longer than you could.

EG I believe you're distracting yourself or you're Holla Forums

November 6, 2016 - 10:39

Adrian Cruz

Trump would've spanked him harder than Jeb.

November 6, 2016 - 10:41

Daniel Ross

No, I'm a Russian hacker.

November 6, 2016 - 10:41

Matthew Reyes

I'd like to see those Romney bring up Trump's bankruptcies in a debate room with him. And Trump then bringing up the shit with Bain Capital. Two would try to outdo their "I'm a good businessman" shtick.

Here's hoping the world is awful enough they both run again in 2020. Given everything it wouldn't be surprising if they do.

November 6, 2016 - 10:43

Caleb Collins

youtube.com/watch?v=vST61W4bGm8

November 6, 2016 - 10:54

Jose Allen

Yes.

November 6, 2016 - 11:48

Oliver Nguyen

Feminists are all retarded witch hunters.

November 6, 2016 - 11:50

Carson Perez

I know you're a disciple of narrow minded ideology and can't even think about an issue if it doesn't agree perfectly with you tiny set of precepts, but if you can't see how these people are discussing how liberals have been able to easily re-purpose idpol to defend capitalism against any form of criticism kys.

November 6, 2016 - 11:55

William Davis

Antisemitism in the modern world is even less of a problem than deeply triggering and problematic racism

And like accusations of "reverse racism" it's generally thrown around to silence legitimate criticism.

November 6, 2016 - 12:14

Julian Morgan

I'd rather watch you talk about shit that actually matters, than engaging in the discussing the highly volatile identity politics that brings Holla Forums here.

It's not a good idea.

November 6, 2016 - 12:16

Brandon Kelly

...

November 6, 2016 - 12:41

Charles Jenkins

Holla Forums just got BTFO like never before

November 6, 2016 - 12:42

Nolan Roberts

What are you on about again?

November 6, 2016 - 12:46

Asher Taylor

comey decided to not indict clinton just now

November 6, 2016 - 12:48

Thomas Williams

They spent the last 4 or 5 days convincing themselves there was an FBI coup because of a pedophile ring and Satan worship. Lmao.

Comey just released this statement:

November 6, 2016 - 12:48

Dominic Kelly

Holla Forums is in full damage control

boards.4chan.org/pol/catalog

November 6, 2016 - 12:52

Landon Flores

I feel like this election is a choice to play Russian Roulette with one of two revolvers, where each is guaranteed to have at least 5 bullets, but one or both could have 6, and basically we're all fucked and our best hope is a misfire.

November 6, 2016 - 12:53

Jaxson Peterson

LOL. This is but a taste of the salt that is to come on Tuesday. Holy shit, a whole year of dealing with these insufferable faggots is about to come to head in just a few days. The anticipation is fucking killing me.

November 6, 2016 - 12:57

Christian Nguyen

What happens after Hillary wins?

Do we go back to trolling the SJWs on tumblr and twitter?

November 6, 2016 - 13:00

Joseph Green

Butthurt on imageboards might be one of the few things that make Shillary's victory worthwhile.

November 6, 2016 - 13:00

Kevin Roberts

Nothing so useless, sad wretch of a human.

November 6, 2016 - 13:01

Joshua Sullivan

We try making them irrelevant, at least.

November 6, 2016 - 13:02

Mason Harris

It's the only thing that makes it worthwhile.

November 6, 2016 - 13:05

Robert Robinson

Nuclear war is fine too.

November 6, 2016 - 13:07

Jordan Cox

Nuclear war is a given whoever wins.

November 6, 2016 - 13:09

Liam Smith

I'm been let down too many times in my life. I refuse to get my hopes up about things like that.

November 6, 2016 - 13:12

Cameron Brown

...

November 6, 2016 - 13:14

Easton King

Climate change might kill us though.

November 6, 2016 - 13:17

Nathaniel Hall

At least it will be a slow horrible death and at least nature will be killing us.

I want the earth to take revenge on us Humans

November 6, 2016 - 13:18

Aiden Parker

It's more like applying a built in heater on itself so exinctify those pesky humans.

November 6, 2016 - 13:28

Thomas White

AKA a living organism using a fever to try to kill off bacteria or a virus.

November 6, 2016 - 13:32

Jordan Diaz

What if the earth really is a living organism?

November 6, 2016 - 13:36

Ian Martinez

I assume you wrap yourself up in a blanket to help the fever as well?

November 6, 2016 - 13:40

Kevin Parker

Hillary just won the election.

Thank fucking God, guys. Are you guys happy?

November 6, 2016 - 13:42

Ian Mitchell

You might just be onto something there Karl.

November 6, 2016 - 13:43

Bentley Harris

It's a shame that the FBI declined to bust the elite pedophile ring though.

November 6, 2016 - 13:44

Lucas Rogers

No, I like to breath in as many poisnous gasses as possible while injecting toxic waste directly into my bloodstream to try to cure it.

November 6, 2016 - 13:44

Xavier Gutierrez

It is. The Earth's biosphere, that is.

November 6, 2016 - 13:45

James Jones

Thanks burgers, we will return the favor soon.

November 6, 2016 - 13:46

Anthony Sanchez

Hack'em to pieces

November 6, 2016 - 13:50

Gavin Moore

Direct them all to the South please

November 6, 2016 - 13:50

Chase Howard

I guess it's going to be even harder to spread class consciousness. Fun times.

November 6, 2016 - 13:51

Juan James

She'll win the election and lose the country.

A fitting end. Hope you fellas are ready for the happening

November 6, 2016 - 13:52

Robert Roberts

But I wanted to spend my post-apocalyptic days down on the beach somewhere nice and warm.

November 6, 2016 - 13:52

John Jones

She will be assassinated during her presidency.

November 6, 2016 - 13:55

Dylan Morales

I voted for Hillary because I want to maintain the status quo for a while longer. It sucks, yeah and I would have much preferred B████ but I don't understand how we're going to enact Communism by letting Orange Hitler use the presidential podium for getting rid of anything he doesn't like. That's what scares me about him.

November 6, 2016 - 13:57

Evan Baker

I doubt it

November 6, 2016 - 13:58

Jeremiah Johnson

Why are you such a fucking faggot?

November 6, 2016 - 13:59

Noah Turner

I heard the same about Obama. Then he completed the transformation into Bush, kept Guantanamo, etc. so there was no need for the great defender of the status quo to be assassinated by the usual suspects.

November 6, 2016 - 14:01

Hudson Jenkins

Fuck off back to Holla Forums retard

If you have a choice between an outright racist. sexist quasifascist and a corrupt neoliberal psuedoprogressive you should always choose the latter because less people will be hurt. How many Muslims, women and hispanics will be hurt by a Trump presidency? How many workers will suffer because of the incompetence of the orange clown? Think before you say stupid shit like this. Yes she is fucking awful but she's still slightly better than him.

Honestly I'm getting quite sick of you accelerationism fags.

November 6, 2016 - 14:04

Jackson Flores

Hillary is much more deeply hated due to her long history, and she's not even a president yet.

You can doubt it, but it won't prevent some unemployed redneck from doing it. It might even be you who'll do it.

November 6, 2016 - 14:05

Benjamin Myers

Fuck you ignorant American.

November 6, 2016 - 14:08

Camden Sanchez

…you vote for neither you faggot. If you really have some primordial need to legitimize bourgeois elections, then at least stop voting for some "less evil" porky shit and vote for some left/centre left party, be it Greens, SPUSA or something else altogether to help them somehow.

November 6, 2016 - 14:10

Nathaniel Campbell

How's it feel living in a fantasy world where things are still salvageable?

November 6, 2016 - 14:10

Anthony Walker

No, she constructed much of revisions to the post-cold war deep state during her stint at the state department, she's needed far more than Obama because of her necessary part of the structure of everything.

Secret Service is far more advanced than it was for Reagan, the president is going to be around over 100 secret service agents anywhere at any given time monitoring the vicinity around them.

I seriously doubt that there's going to be anything more than a number of failed attempts.

November 6, 2016 - 14:11

Parker Murphy

...

November 6, 2016 - 14:11

William Russell

Is this a joke?

November 6, 2016 - 14:18

Alexander Kelly

You forgot homophobic, no +1$ for you.

November 6, 2016 - 14:18

Brody Smith

your mind on liberalism

November 6, 2016 - 14:21

Anthony Robinson

Why does CTR always use the Marx/leftcom/hammer&sickle/etc flags? It's like they're so steeped in liberal indoctrination they completely lack awareness of any ideological nuance on the left, and assume "hurr, dirty reds".

This is incredible, it seems to have vaguely grasped the idea that "neoliberalism" is seen as a bad thing, but it doesn't understand why. It flails vaguely about "muh literally Hitler", "muhnorities", and "muh incompetence", but it can't put a finger on anything bad Trump could realistically accomplish.

It wouldn't even have to mention taboos like mass economic immigration, offshoring, warmongering, or domestic infrastructure decay. It could just point to his tax policy recycled verbatim from Paul Ryan, or his quite possibly fobbing off the presidency to establishment Republicans like Pence to act as a mere figurehead. But it can't, because it actually agrees with all those things, because liberals are Republicrats.

We've reached full "left"/"right" porky convergence.

November 6, 2016 - 14:30

Andrew Cook

...

November 6, 2016 - 14:45

Jaxson James

The banaman weighs in:

youtube.com/watch?v=DNp19krSPr8

Trump is a Clinton plant anyway.

This tbh.

November 6, 2016 - 14:48

Leo Parker

Why are Alt-right losers so easily triggered?

November 6, 2016 - 14:58

Nathan Young

They are honest to god SJW-tier. Their lack of self-awareness is amazing.

November 6, 2016 - 15:00

Asher Wright

Good Gundam reference.

November 6, 2016 - 15:08

Hunter Sullivan

When a certain group gains prominence, they become smug pieces of shit making people hate them and drift towards the opposite political movements. Retardation of tumblrinas spawned anti-SJWs laughing at them, many of them later getting into alt-right. Now alt-right's retardation is spawning the opposition against them, which will probably become liberal/leftist flavoured retards, thus closing the cycle.

November 6, 2016 - 15:10

Robert Foster

The joke is only starting with Clinton's victory mate. We're in for really bad times

November 6, 2016 - 15:11

Kayden Hughes

Idpol begates idpol, basically.

November 6, 2016 - 15:12

James Allen

Isn't that how hegelian/marxist dialectical method works?

November 6, 2016 - 15:15

Austin Richardson

It isn't idpol. It's an uneducated American public responding in anger to problems within the system we might or might not have, with proud opinions, being fed eventually by the new tabloids that support their opinions politically.

And soon things become so twisted, especially because of the internet, they stop caring about the issues, and start caring about each other, and when they find everyone is cold and divided, well they just become cold and divided to, and do whatever the crowd wants.

My point is, don't buy into the hype of the crowd in American politics, you end up worshiping someone like Trump as if he can do no wrong as a replacement for the cold in your heart.

November 6, 2016 - 15:17

Jaxon Jenkins

Are you retarded?

November 6, 2016 - 15:28

Sebastian Sullivan

By that logic it sounds like it will happen to us. Or we'll just all be nihilists.

November 6, 2016 - 15:30

Colton Brooks

It's a euphemism, don't get upset.

November 6, 2016 - 15:31

Adam Powell

I remember reading a book by Steven Pinker(probably not very liked around these parts), I think it was The Blank Slate that criticized political correctness in one chapter and how, according to him, one of its greatest dangers was that it could spawn dark counter-culture of political incorrectness.

How far we have come.

November 6, 2016 - 15:33

Isaac Fisher

...

November 6, 2016 - 15:35

Zachary Diaz

They're the ones that gave us Hillary. America gets the government it deserves.

November 6, 2016 - 15:36

Jonathan White

One of my favorite memes from /s4s/. That board is the only reason I regret getting perma-banned from 4chan for cp after posting an MSPaint picture with the words CP on it and saying that CP was now a meme.

November 6, 2016 - 15:36

Elijah Mitchell

And American whites who get upset at identities like women and minorities, for getting upset at identities like being white, and you're all pissed off at the most non issue shit that could have been solved through more effective methods

You end up with Trump. Who is honestly just as bad as Hillary.

Stop caring about how women and minorities are fucking you over and start talking about issues that convince others to actually do shit to fix the mess we're currently getting in worldwide. We have an educated public doing ass backwards decision making and it's not going to be good when it pops.

November 6, 2016 - 15:39

Caleb Cox

IMO they are like:

November 6, 2016 - 15:41

Bentley Garcia

If left-wing edgyism will get as big on the internet as SJWs and Holla Forumstards before us, then it surely will, I can already see the seeds that signal the fall of such movement.

November 6, 2016 - 15:42

Jeremiah Bennett

How convenient for you. After all, it's not like an end to neocon adventurism and neolib open borders at the cost of the middle class could possibly have anything to do with the unprecedented popularity of Trump, [REDACTED], and similar figures all around the world.

Nope, nothing to be concerned about, no ideological awakening, jus' dem raysis seksis ol' noozis up to dey ol' tricks agin'.

November 6, 2016 - 15:46

Daniel Martinez

I just want workers to own the MOP and some free 2ds man.

November 6, 2016 - 15:46

Carter Hughes

If minorities hadn't voted Hillary during the primaries we would've gotten B████. So shut up.

November 6, 2016 - 15:47

Gavin Parker

If not for women voting for Hillary because she's a woman, and blacks voting for Hillary because of nostalgia for Bill or whatever, we could have had B████, who would probably be up 20 points on Trump right now. A candidate with the views of Trump who was even mildly more competent would have easily beaten Hillary, and Trump might still win anyway.

Trump is worse than Hillary, but this is precisely why I want him to win. I just want to watch the destruction unfold.

November 6, 2016 - 15:52

Andrew Morales

Point out what I said was wrong about going forward not relying on yelling at women and minorities for voting for Clinton. Go ahead and see where that ends up.

It's not going to end up where it wants you to end up.

And you're still going to be pissed off.

So the way I see it, you're just as afflicted with idpol as them, and it's just going to get worse. Focus on the issues, and keep on topic on them, or else you just get pissed off the American public voted for the wrong person again. Because if you keep getting mad at that, you're already suckered in to the problem that keeps everyone voting in the first place.

Reformists are great. They don't solve your problems either.

And it wasn't "women and minorities", who made Clinton win. It's apathy of the leftist base and voter turn out.

And yes, idpol. But you're not going to convince voters this way if you want to play the retarded game of getting invested in American elections.

This is the kinds of thinking that idpol gets you in. "Fuck everything, no solutions waah", it's counter intuitive and it's just going to make idpol worse anyways, along with every other demographic down side appealing more to Hillary like Democrats, so what the fuck is the point of a Trump win.

Both are destructive.

But if you focus on the demographics of voters like everyone is fucking doing, you just end up dividing yourselves and getting frustrated.

November 6, 2016 - 15:55

Brayden Campbell

>>>Holla Forums

14/88 and le jewz amirite? xD

November 6, 2016 - 15:56

Nicholas Stewart

as Marx said, politics is not driven by material conditions, but by people having mean ideas for no raisen

November 6, 2016 - 15:59

John Wilson

Had to meet with a bunch of normies last night.
Found something interesting - they were complaining that reddit is shit now because its home of the alt-right.
When you're in a chan bubble you just picture it as a liberal shithole, and yet that's now how basic bitches see it.

November 6, 2016 - 15:59

Parker Bennett

I wouldn't guess reddit has as much overlap between subreddits like the chans and their boards. I'd guess if you were to draw maps showing the overlap between users and different subreddits you'll find subreddits form concentrated groups with little connection the the rest of the site.

November 6, 2016 - 16:06

Carson Nguyen

Clinton didn't win because of brainwashed minorities, and she didn't win because of apathy, anymore than dubya won because of Nader: Any exit poll will tell you she won because she cheated, and [REDACTED] cucked out instead of calling her on it.

Sure:

That could be interpreted in a number of ways, so I apologize if I misread you, but the most straightforward one is "Trump is powered primarily by idpol", which is simply false.

Beggorah, 1/2 shilling has been deposited ta ye account.

November 6, 2016 - 16:07

Gavin Reyes

Yeah, I'm in India. The average RX costs about 100 rupees here, which is $1.50. That's for antibiotics, painkillers(the good stuff), anything, really. My parents are coming here to visit soon for my wedding. They'll likely bring their RXs, but they'll be able to save those for later, once I take them to the pharmacy. They're going to be shocked to see how cheap they are, just like I was.

My dad also has Hepatitis C, and has needed treatment for years, but couldn't afford it. :( So we're going to take him to doctors while he's here to try & get him some good treatment before he goes back. Now that he has a passport, if we can find the same treatment for cheaper(very likely), we'll see about getting him to come back routinely for treatment. Like I said, he's been putting it off for years, so it will be awesome if this happens. It will extend his life substantially.

November 6, 2016 - 16:07

Dominic Edwards

I've heard some bloodcurdling horror stories about medical fraud in the 3rd world, especially SE Asia. I hope you guys are super careful about where you get your meds.

November 6, 2016 - 16:10

Lucas Clark

Well, the economy could start to crash on November 9 as a result the uncertainty surrounding a Trump presidency. The EU far right, emboldened by a Trump presidency, could start the breakup of the EU. Trump could cause NATO to disintegrate by pulling out of it. There would certainly be heightened racial tensions.

November 6, 2016 - 16:10

Kevin Young

How is it false? What is he powered by? Policy?

No. Any more so than Clinton. This is the problem with US elections it gets everyone on hair pin triggers furious about fucking demographics

November 6, 2016 - 16:11

Alexander Thomas

/r/fullcommunism called, they want you back

November 6, 2016 - 16:12

Isaac James

Yes. Build the Wall.

November 6, 2016 - 16:13

Isaiah Gomez

The great wall of angry identity politics brought to you by Atlantic City

November 6, 2016 - 16:14

Adam Myers

I always knew New Jersey would be the death of us

t. Pennsylvanian

November 6, 2016 - 16:19

Michael Ramirez

No, the wall along the Mexican border. To stopper illegal immigrants from Latin and South America.
The other incredibly popular policy he has is to put heavy import taxes on manufactures that move factories over seas.
These are the core Trump policies and have been from the earliest days of his primary campaign.

November 6, 2016 - 16:20

Robert Wilson

He's powered by people finally being fed up with the offshoring, the pointless wars, the immigration, the total lack of domestic investment, the socialist bailouts for big business juxtaposed against ruthless capitalism for their victims, the smokescreen of preening about "progress" on social "issues" and "upsizing" jobs into a globalized "new economy".

The middle class can see through the neocon/neolib antipopulist scam that's dominated establishment politics since the 1970s, they don't care about the distracting slapfight between fundies and SJWs, they want their jobs back.

They saw efforts like Occupy and the Tea Party fail, this time candidates with a serious shot at the polls finally appealed to them without any reservations, and they know their time is finally at hand after 40 years of Reaganomics and New Democrats.

November 6, 2016 - 16:20

Samuel Davis

jej

November 6, 2016 - 16:22

Nathan Martin

Including himself? Wew.

November 6, 2016 - 16:22

Blake Edwards

Yeah, it's angry in the simplest fucking terms. It isn't about policy reform, it's about a literal giant wall to keep mexicans out.

It's the latter's language, so simplistic, that appeals to the angry part of voters minds, fueled by an identity.

Keep the hispanics out with a wall.

It isn't policy. It's identity politics.

I really don't see it, since none of his base is actually talking about the specifics of those issues. They're only brought up in passing as reasons to vote for him. It's secondary.

The primary is just pure focus on demographic anger.

November 6, 2016 - 16:23

Brandon Young

Mostly anger at Washington, corporations, the media, being sold out countless times and regarded as less than shit by the American "left" while being screwed every year by the right, anxieties over employment because of immigration, etc.

Trump will also sell them out, but he seems like he won't. I imagine some of his supporters are aware he will as well, but they view voting for him as the only way of registering any protest.

November 6, 2016 - 16:30

Jace Young

You're really giving the voting public too much credit.Trump mostly has votes by his base because he's a Republican who says what they want to hear.

As if right on time to prove my point, he just made a speech in Minnesota yelling about the tiny population of Somalian refugees, c;aiming Minnesota has suffered enough from them.

It's all idpol man open your eyes

November 6, 2016 - 16:33

Juan Jones

No, idpol isn't "being angry". Idpol is "it's time for a woman" "prosecuting banks makes you an antisemite" and "if your white and angry you don't matter"

November 6, 2016 - 16:34

Angel Stewart

Nationalism, or even nativism, is not identity politics

November 6, 2016 - 16:35

Landon Taylor

That's a debunked meme, the official Trump hats were all made in the USA, only the unlicensed knockoffs weren't. If you want to bait Trumpenproles, point to other 3rd-world products like his completely official glassware, designer clothes, and so on.

It's both

And that demographic is the middle class, the former lifelong Democrats who watched as their union jobs were swallowed up in the crumbling chasm of the rust belt's decay.

This

Spooky, fampai.

November 6, 2016 - 16:37

Henry Moore

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November 6, 2016 - 16:37

Gavin Martinez

polintelbrogetoutreeeeeeeeeeeeee

November 6, 2016 - 16:38

Jaxon Gonzalez

Never suggested it was.

It is you're right. But it's also more than that.

Please, this is the American Republican party, they may hold those views, but they don't give a shit enough to read about them to care about instituting policy. The most they get out of Trump is simple answers to complex problems. A wall will stop immigration because it's a wall duh stupid. Refugees are fucking with us because they're from scary places like Somalia we have to keep our kids safe.

It's the same kind of shit packaged and wrapped in another layer of shit that all tastes the same every election that we just think is new.

November 6, 2016 - 16:38

Jaxson Baker

You're describing the ideal Trump supporter, not the typical Trump supporter. In broad historical terms, it's true that Trump's candidacy is the end result of failed neoliberal policies, self-congratulatory elites, the degradation of social support networks, and so on.

That doesn't change the fact that most (but not all) of his voters are still social and economic conservatives who would've begrudgingly voted for Generic Free Market Republican #45 if Trump hadn't entered the race.

November 6, 2016 - 16:38

Liam Collins

The only thing that socialism will bail big business out of is a helicopter.

"Middle-class" is an empty term that describes nobody in particular. It is a useless identity with no material basis.

And how is he going to stop that? With taxes? Taxes that he is incapable of getting into the budget? Taxes that will only apply to people who pay U.S. federal taxes? You can not detatch the U.S. from global capitalism without revolution.

They have a point. You just can't see what that point is, because you have done no analysis of the global economy. The point of those foreign adventures is to secure resources at a cost far less than their actual value. This is necessary to keep the economic center full of enough commodities to placate the workers there and to provide the parasitic capitalist class with everything that it desires.

Sucker. Trump even said that he was going to give out a record number of work visas. Building a wall across a border that is seeing more south-bound traffic than north-bound traffic is a non-solution to a problem that he openly plans to exascerbate.

What, you expect him to pass a New Deal?

November 6, 2016 - 16:39

Hunter Roberts

I've heard them, too. But I haven't had any issues so far, and I've been here for almost 2 years. (I live in a bigger city, Bangalore, atm) They mostly happen in poor villages. :( I remember reading about a child from a village who needed eye drops for something, and it turns out they were counterfeit, so the kid went blind. I dunno if just temporarily.

I always make sure to do my research. Make sure the company is good & that the packaging is professional. Tbh, I started taking opiates again for the illness, and they're damn good/safe. And there are a lot of European medicines here(I'm new to this, they use Euro more than the US does). I use French face wash & UK multivitamins prescribed for my acne atm. Works well & is safe.

As far as doctors, you have to do your research, and go to a more expensive clinic(which is still damn cheap compared to the US). You need to go to bigger cities for the best/specialty care. That's what my SO's parents do, too. They're from a smaller village. So there's definitely a trade-off; you just have to be smart about it.

I'll share two short stories to give you an idea. When I first got here, I came down with a fever from the long flight & temp. changes(it was winter when I left in US, like summer here). So I went to a smaller doctor here & they give paracetemol(tylenol) injections for fever. That was new to me. I didn't want to, but needed something. It was how you'd imagine a third world country doctor's office to be, and I'd never go back.

I also needed dental work. Again, a friend recommended a dentist, and the office was small. It wasn't as clean as I'd like, but he did good work. After the emergency care was done, I told my SO I wouldn't be going back. The dentist got pissed, lmao, and used his status as an elder to pressure us into paying for the cancelled appointment. We did, and didn't return. I remember saying it was like the "Wild West", as far as people being able to pressure you & not be totally professional.

So I learned form that. Now I go to the bigger hospitals. I found a good dentist who fixed my bridge & root canal. I'd gotten the beginning of a root canal in the US, from a student dentist, because it's all I could afford. That student fucked my shit up; I was in a shitload of pain. The new dentist here asked where I'd gotten it done, because it was done badly(which explained the pain). So the Indian dentist fixed it & I've not had problems since.

Long stories short, just go to the bigger medical facilities here & you're fine. If you go to a smaller, village medical facility & you can be in for trouble.

The biggest thing for me was actually being able to get care. Even if it takes a little more shopping, I'm happy to be able to receive care, at all. Sorry for blogpost; wanted to explain properly.

November 6, 2016 - 16:40

Nathaniel Johnson

And it's not motivated by policy to help them. If they did they would vote for some hard leftist, which they had the chance to, but didn't. So now it's Trump, who hardly has any B████ cross voters since they're all mostly going to vote for Clinton now because she's the safe one.

I just see it this way.

Trump maybe new, but we're giving his voting base waaaaay too much credit on what they see as good policy that isn't motivated by identity. They're motivated by the same Reaganite Republican principles.

November 6, 2016 - 16:40

Landon Peterson

kay

November 6, 2016 - 16:41

Jaxson Ross

What is a nation if not an immaterial identity?

November 6, 2016 - 16:41

Nolan Foster

If another Republican who promised more free trade but said the right things on social issues and immigration was running instead of Trump, these same people would be voting for that Republican instead. The Republican base is overwhelmingly motivated by social issues, and are only "economically right-wing" insofar as these policies don't benefit minorities or other groups perceived as lazy.

November 6, 2016 - 16:47

Samuel Sullivan

Oh I see why so many Trumpfags are in this thread. You're all nazbols and stirnirfags

Nazbols and Stirnirfags are not leftists. Neither are tankies nor Anarkiddies.

Leftist = socdem, Leninists, and Marxists. The rest are shitposting ideologies.

November 6, 2016 - 16:48