Where were you when Josh tried to convince /egy/ that AGPL can prevent data mining?

you seem to have a weird fascination with IPs, m8.

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2016-01-15 00:41:20 [Desu] .:%n-tech:. [09:24:33] I don't understand this fascination with IPs

2016-01-15 00:41:20 [Desu] .:%n-tech:. [09:24:38] What are you going to do with them?

2016-01-15 00:41:20 [Desu] .:%n-tech:. [09:24:42] I knowingly enabled debugging

2016-01-15 00:41:20 [Desu] .:%n-tech:. [09:24:43] I don't care
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wow so its josh.

the log was released by HW. Josh never disputed it.
spit.mixtape.moe/view/6249b7fc#L7
medium.com/@infinitechan/infinity-never-3d5f733af739

That's not the point, you nigger. Assume AGPL'd software without data mining would be run with a modification that enabled data mining in secret. How are you going to prove that it violates the license?

You can't. AGPL is snake oil and barely better than a privacy policy.

It's a good thing his shit actually supports TOR, then isn't it?

I think it's hilarious how hotwheels lurks all this drama and still acts like a total faggot. /egy/ lost their board because Hotwheels leaked the DB and the application key at different times, was lurking and saw they were moving to 16chan and restores it out of spite.
Then he decides to address the fact that his captcha was the real reason Next didn't get deployed with "I don't give a fuck." That sure is a nice way to put the fact that you blew $12k because of your own incompetence, and don't care that people's money was wasted, after you tried to turn Josh into a boogeyman.

Hell, he's probably discussing all of the people who point all this out on #Holla Forums-staff or slack, gossiping about them or their post histories, just like they did in #janiteam and the mod channels.

Mini moot really is a fucking sociopath. Josh got that much right.

Fuck off, Josh.

Muh agpl will stop goylemjosh when he rages!

Josh was the hero we didn't deserve.

It only prevents data mining if you can find proof of it. There are some situations where that's the case, but not always, which is why he said it somewhat prevents it, instead of saying it prevents it.

That's exaggerating it. Forcing the site owner to release publicly visible (non-malicious) features is very useful. That's the primary motivation of the AGPL.

You seem upset.

I trust Josh more than hotwheels to deploy code at this point.
When your answer to your incompetence is "I don't give a fuck" and your answer to making the privacy policy a laughingstock, violated so he can circlejerk with his furfag spammer friend for news coverage, is "grasping at straws" and then forgets to delete it, and leaves exposed things like db and application keys.

I'm not the guy writing angry rants about hotwheels.

Hotwheels is the guy that botched the single largest ever donation drive in the history of imageboards, because of his shit code.

And yet here you are, shitting where you eat daily.

Please continue. Where did the cripple touch you with his tiny arms?

He can't even wipe his own ass so I doubt he'd be able to touch me with his tiny arms unless he lept out of his chair, like the goblin he is.

good goyimspokes and jewsh shills the thread.

I'm not really a shill I'm just pissed off at the way hotdud operates.
He tries to make a boogeyman out of everyone and felt power out of making us his personal army, several times.
It's sad that this imageboard is now a laughingstock due to hotwheels conduct and forward thinking with his captcha, while he played videogames instead of doing anything to help.

...

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your a tranny whore Nicole
post tits or GTFO

jim and codemonkey runs the show now.

shit on their decision to break tor. anyways being mad at the dud will make you look like some intl faggot with ex girlfriend syndrome. go for the real targets instead of going for the person that's supposed to run interference for the site.

Hotdud is being used as a human puppet, and Jim and Codemonkey aren't writing shit, it's all Fred.

>mfw Hotman is not tech consultant but coder slave just like an indian

DESIGNATED
SHITTING
CODEBASE

I adore how thrilled OP is that this site is corrupt to the core and there's nothing he can do about it. One of the most cucked human beings to ever live.

With one post from him on here in the last few months and the last activity on twitter being to post

He's not being used as a puppet. His presence here is non existent even as a supposed puppet.

It's hard to believe that even when he's not around at all people are complaining about him being used as a puppet.

And as an aside what good is an AGPL if the person using it is worth nothing financially and has proven himself incompetent several times? Who's going to bother suing Josh for breaching the license on his own imageboard? It's as worthless as he is this scenario, the license was never intended to be used in this manner.

Nah, he's posting about the captcha he upgraded.
By the way, he increased the size for a few hours to check out his handywork, and then switched it back :^)
Probably because it used more cpu time than necessary due to his shit code, even on an endpoint that's spaced out over the day randomly thanks to an established userbase, whodathunk

I trust Josh more than I trust Holla Forums at this point.

Also you don't know how AGPL works.
Clearly if you did, you'd have made the argument that the copyright holder can do whatever the fuck he wants, and that's why it's worthless on an instance like his.

Either way, I see all of the updates on his git.jaw.sh site and he periodically merges to github. I very much doubt he's going to have some HIDDEN DATAMINING CODE considering he's not very proficient with git.

And if the server doesn't match the codebase, a contributor can press him. Anyone that's contributed has that right, and they'd have to be written out of the treee for them to not have that right.

That's funny, the state of his github repo sure doesn't back that claim up

they do it for free

You mean Codemonkey? Or Hotwheels github.
You know that trees can exist outside of github, right?
Or are you some sort of fucking retard who thinks github = git?

It's unenforceable, faggot. Even a braindead code monkey like Josh can keep things out of a git repo but still have them running on the server. No way to prove that what you're being served over the network is what's actually on the box.

If it were unenforcable, then why does Holla Forums not want to use it, lest Jim risk his very valuable Filipino outsourcing firm intellectual property :^)
Also you could have some sort of hashing function and salting date time on the hour, every hour, of every file in the git tree.

Also that particular suggestion might not stop someone from computing all possible hashes going forward, and just serving those, it does make it a pain in the ass, whereas you could just have a public tree and share your shit.
There's probably a better suggestion but all of them are just increasingly more pain in the ass, and not really foolproof solutions.

ITT: Lolcows on meth.

When it comes to legal matters I'd rather trust the judgement of someone who owns several successful international internet businesses with over a decade of experience and has a lawyer on retainer than a guy who lives with his mom and makes less than 12k a year.

Josh can pretend he's a legal expert who can tell a judge what's what all he wants here; in fact he's in good company with the likes of MikeeUSA. It's just unfortunate that we don't have a site similar to groklaw currently going to point out how ridiculous his arguments are. Techrights.org is currently embroiled in the ongoing EPO disaster, they're unlikely to provide a neutral third party legal analysis.

What? If it's unenforcable, then there's no legal risk if he does stupid shit, and then there's no problem with using the software.
And even if it were unenforcable for "datamining" standards, calling the AGPL unenforcable means that there's no risk to his Filipino outsourcing property.
You realize his only profitable web property left is 2ch, right, and it's not originally his property. He seized it after his client couldn't pay the bills after the system contracted to Jim's company, Race Queen Inc., leaked a bunch of email addresses.

And ultimately when you consider that Jim wanted Next to be closed at the original meeting or whatever, the one hotwheels was at, and tried to close it all up in exchange for a generous salary at his Filipino outsourcing firm, all because it was related to the property that Hotwheels signed over (this website) you can see that he's quite the kike.

Saves him bandwidth, modernizes the site, makes shit maintainable, gives him ample monetization possibilities even without a license exception. The license exception would require copyright assignment via CLA, or writing all contributions not by Josh out of tree, but it really wasn't a problem at that point.

Suffice to say that a lot of bad decisions were made. The captcha fucked everything up, as did changing the system they'd be deploying two twice, and even then it wasn't the hardware that he was promised.

The top 2 imageboards are run by businessmen who have no imagination.

Just call the "data mining" codes a "bug" and refuse to fix it :^)

What ever *GPL couldn't prevent this.

kek

LMAO at all the retards ITT who think AGPL can prevent data mining. Not only you can add unlimited number of features as long as they are hidden, but you can also mine data WITHOUT TOUCHING A SINGLE LINE OF CODE (e.g., by logging HTTP requests and responses, by developing another program the accesses the database directly, ..etc)

Kill yourself you fucking retards.

kek

There's also no problem not using the software, which appears to be the thing you're not understanding.

Jim's motivations have nothing to do with the fact the AGPL is snake oil at best, and completely unenforceable at worst.

Jim, please.
Your only profitable web property is something you seized from a client.
If it's snake oil and unenforcable then there's no problem.

You failed in Japanese porn, for fucks sake. How does that even happen when you had such a good loophole.

Your motivations were to try and kike the codebase, just like you basically stole 2ch and got one hell of a deal on Holla Forums due to a cripple that wanted to leave the shithole that is expensive care for his condition.

Do yourself a favor, and fuck off back to the pig farm. After all, you seem to enjoy the smell of rancid pig shit. I'll give you a hint: the smell is coming from your mouth, as you spew retardation about Usenet being a game of musical chairs when exposed to the web.

I legitimately can't tell which side is more autistic, but I'm having fun.

I wasn't on this site crabanon, because it was down

same here.

When you're ready to have an original thought, feel free to post again.

He's an original thought, how about you fuck off.
Repeating over and over "AGPL is unenforcable/snake oil!" doesn't mean it's true.
I certainly trust Eben Moglen more as a lawyer than I do you, or fat fuck pig fucking Farmer Jim.

I don't even understand why a person would believe that. Yes, obviously, you can illegally modify code, but that's the point. At that point, it's breaking the law. Someone like Jim, who has an American-based company and real money to lose, does not frivolously violate the law. The AGPL in this case does its job very well, and the fact that Jim refuses to use it indicates he doesn't want to keep the source open.

This guy.. I don't understand. I just don't get it. He's either trolling or he's one of Jim's employees. No one can genuinely be as angry and dumb and dedicated as he is.

that's such a spurdo name.

Even that doesn't matter, because as has been argued (and ignored) several times this thread, this shit is impossible to prove. The law might as well not exist.

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It can't be ignored. If the server is hacked or the code is leaked (AS HAS ALREADY HAPPENED TO JIM), then he is in deep shit. He wouldn't risk it.

Get it?? Millions of dollars at stake for a little lie when he could just not use the code.

It's like saying "TAXES CAN BE IGNORED NO ONE WILL FIND OUT". Like, fuck off with that, you idiot.

If nobody finds out, they can. There's no trial without a prosecutor. The difference is that tax evasion is harder to hide than data mining is (because hiding the latter is trivial) and has a higher penalty than violating the license of some shit software Josh wrote.

So no, you are the idiot.

Exactly. It's a risk. A gamble. A million dollar gamble. Jim wouldn't risk getting sued by Josh over 16chan.nl's software over that gamble in hiding his code because Josh is protecting freedoms with AGPL.

I think the fundamental failure in discourse is the fact that you retards keep replying to OP, who left out the qualifier "somewhat."
If you'd have actually read Josh's post, maybe you people wouldn't seem like such fucking drooling retards.

And it does, somewhat.

Then you have the fucking retard arguing about how "durr GPL it's unenforcable u can't tell if it changed xddd."
You could have a sort of hash scheme that makes it increasingly more of a pain in the ass to diverge your tree from public code.

The original reason Jim didn't want AGPL, because he seems to be under the retarded belief that servers/clients of software licensed under AGPL must be AGPL themselves. Which is totally fucking retarded. Almost stupider than Ballmer's "viral" argument.

Where you don't use AGPL: internally at companies
Where you can use AGPL: for a meme website that can interface with all of Jim's super proprietary filipino software with OAuth.

You're all fucking retarded, and so is Farmer Jim.

You don't even need OAuth. Just build an extension system, publish that, and then publish extensions under a different license. Happens
ALL THE TIME

Well I was under the impression that softserve supported OAuth for whatever the fuck it is that they'd need to use it for.
Doesn't matter, everyone is fucking retarded.

Edgy rhetoric garbage like this does nothing to support your argument. Show me the code.

Code is completely private, retard. Codemonkey says he wants to make it public again "at some point".

Even then, the new public code will be
Ron's custom Alacrity memcached.
Ron's custom SQL server.
Ron's custom webserver.

May as well be closed source.

Even if you hack, how can you proof it? It's not like you can archive.is the file system. And by definition hacking = server is compromised = anything provided through it can be dismissed

this

You missed the part in the OP where Josh said "somewhat."
OP deliberately left it out because he's just a stupid faggot who's hungry for replies.

You missed the second line where he says "AGPL means whatever is written in the source code is running on the server".

The quote is
"AGPL *basically* means whatever is written in the source code is running on the server"
And he's correct. You're required to keep a public tree.
The server, in this case, being git tree of infinity-next.

Can you fuck off now? Don't you have some pig fucker's wife's son dick to suck?

No, not even basically. Nice try though, Josh. If you said "should" you would be correct. You are trying to sell AGPL as a defender of privacy and users data, which is not slightly true.

Give the money back you fucking thief.

Clueless user argues for hours in every thread about Josh and still fails to prove his point because he's wrong. Shady Jim can indeed do whatever he wants, but he chose not to use Infinity Next simply because of AGPL. Josh has defended user's freedoms and continues to do so on 16chan.nl -- Clueless user will respond to this with more anger and frustration.

You can download your money's worth at:
git.jaw.sh/infinity-next/infinity-next

Or by visiting 16chan.nl

>>>/egy/120824
So you're a fucking illiterate?
And yes, basically that's what the AGPL means, versus permissive or GPL on the server.
Jim's nickname is Crooked Jim, after he attempted to kike someone out of their copyright.

Get rekt, faggot.

No, that was the Cripplekike
The Kike on Wheels
Your Copyright he Steals

That's how retarded you sound. Give the money back you fucking thief.

Clueless user continually failing to acknowledge how risk assessment works and why Shady Jim wouldn't want a license that forces him to be honest. More anger from pitiful misguided fool who hates his freedoms.

Yeah, there's also GPL violators. That doesn't mean there isn't recourse.
Much in the same way that GPL *basically* guarantees rights to a copy of the source code when you recieve a binary of GPL licensed software, you would say that AGPL basically guarantees rights to a copy of the source code when you use a web service.

Again, I trust the legal opinions of someone who fucking graduated from Yale and is a professor of law at GW than some pig fuck and his "legal opinions" or his "lawyer on retainer."

kek. Nice try ignoring the reply. The statement:
"tax laws basically mean people don't avoid/evade taxes"

is invalid, so is this one:

actually things are worse with AGPL. The violation has to visible in order for you to be able to sue. If it's not visible, you have no proof. He could have 100% different code base that matches the site features and you wouldn't know.
If you manage to hack, you can't archive.is the filesystem. Second of all, he can mine data by accessing the database directly using another independent program. Any retard can write sql. Or he can log requests and responses.

Admit it, josh. Protection against data mining was a retarded argument.

Risk is using an AGPL software on a site that has many enemies. Someone might sue him for the softserv software even though it's not covered by AGPL. Someone might sue him for the hell of it.

Also, if he pays developers to fix your shitty code and add new features (visible to the end user), it would be understandable to keep the source closed.

Now that I've showed you different legitimate motives for refusing AGPL, you can stop embarrassing yourself by using the invalid data mining motive.

Sad, schizophrenic user continues to write text walls and accuse everyone of being Josh because his arguments fall flatter with every post he mades.

:|

You know what's really sad? having your reputation as a programmer permanently ruined and having to beg anons all over the boards to migrate to your shitty chan so you can make shekels later by ads because your career is over.

It can be bad for business, yes.

It can be bad for business, yes.

I thought about bringing up "muh social contract" but that'd probably be a Holla Forums derail.
Not like Holla Forums actually discusses such things on this website anymore.
Regardless, taxes are necessary for society we know.
There's tax violators, who claimed there wasn't? But the analogy falls flat.

Even if that were true, his reputation was permentantly ruined because of hotwheels captcha and the fact that cuckmonkey had to fag shit up and change the infrastructure they'd be deploying to twice, as well as not delivering the hardware that they promised.
It would've run fine, and indeed it does (without the captcha.)

There's literally nothing bad about the AGPL. Even a fucking Ronin/4chan system, the most extreme of monetization, could be integrated into the software in question.
But considering Jim is a man who failed in the pornography industry and all his vast imagination could come up with for monetization was charging to remove NSFW ads on /christian/ and more, you could say that he's not really good at this business in the first place. Especially when the ad system wasn't working out because the site was running like shit, and CP spam is everywhere. Who would advertise?
I'm sure he's really good ordering third-world workers around, but it seems he's not really good at this.

Also, to elaborate, the AGPL is bad if you use it for internal projects, that link to a bunch of proprietary shit, but it's not like he has anything of consequence intellectual property wise.
Infinity or Next can't be quantified as "internal software" like something deep in the bowels of Google or something. It's a meme website, and largely self-contained.

Are you actually Jim? If someone told me this was actually the real Jim saying this dumb shit I would believe it.

I don't reply to retards but I'll make an exception this time. If Google open sourced its search engine, would it remain as rich? If you answered no, then congrats, you realized how retarded you were, kill yourself. If you answered no, you are still started, you should kill yourself too.

I don't reply to retards but I'll make an exception this time. If Google open sourced its search engine, would it remain as rich? If you answered no, then congrats, you realized how retarded you were, kill yourself. If you answered no, you are still retarded, you should kill yourself too.

Counter point: Google is a multibillion dollar transcontinental organization that's exists solely because it does what it does better than anyone else.

Holla Forums barely works.

What makes a community isn't its software, it's its people. Its people paid for AGPL, and Jim denied it to them.

You are the shilliest shill I've ever seen.

Stop embarrassing yourself. You said this statement is dumb:

and now you are doing mental gymnastics to avoid applying your objection to a simple example:

Kill yourself, or at least, don't have kids.

There's nothing novel about this imageboard, you fucking retard. The best you can hope for is break-even.
This is the problem with retarded businessmen running communities.
It's a forum. It's not a vast, far-reaching, globally distributed infrastructure comprised of products from their search engine, to email, to maps, scaling to petabytes of data, crunching that data to make billions of dollars offering ad placement.

Fred just wants to live somewhere where the cost of living is low, but he enjoys the community. Codemonkey just wants to jerk off to type theory for months on end, but he also enjoys the community.
Jim doesn't care about it, it's just another web property to exploit, and he'll probably fail at both when his dumbfuck decisions prevent them from moving forward.

Even with your Google example, keep in mind that Chrome killed FireFox and they're both open source. IE is proprietary and is the last horse in the race.

You're basically just anti-open source and anti-freedom. You're straddling the dick of a 60 year old thief for no reason.

??????????

You basically can't into logic.

doesn't mean:

so your Chrome example is irrelevant.

saying:

is a dumb statement means you believe

which I provided a counter example for.

Now you are ignoring my general statement and your general comment on that statement and trying to apply it to a specific case. Ok, I'll go along:

If Josh granted Jim a GPL license, and Jim made a private fork and paid developers to fix Infinity Next bugs and add more features, he would have a competitive advantage. If you don't get that, you have nigger IQ.

Noisy, autistic pedant sucks Jim's cock harder. Balls now completely empty, but he's still hoping.!

He shouldn't have had to.
The "bugs" that caused failure to deploy were
1) hotwheels captcha
2) laravel's shitty pgsql support, a consequence of either hotwheels or codemonkey's decision to change infrastructure because based codemonkey is a freebsd maintainer and hhvm is not on freebsd 1!1

He'd have had a competitive advantage regardless, because communities are all about the established userbase. You can woo some small communities with features, but he knows well enough that people only stay on his shithole websites because that's what they're used to, and it's the community where everyone else is, or the community where people they enjoy are.
Or maybe it's self-flagellation. Who knows. I still haven't figured that out, since around 2007, why we suffer.
It's a mystery.

Also lack of document caching, but at the load Holla Forums was at it didn't really matter considering the hardware he was promised.

Not Codemonkey, actually. Another 2ch employee is a maintainer for both FreeBSD and PostgreSQL.

Whether taxes are necessary is not germane at all. The point was that evasion exists because the law is not well enforced, just like the AGPL wouldn't prevent violations through datamining because that can't be reasonably enforced. What is so hard to understand about this? You can easily get away with violating the rules, so the rules don't matter. Likewise, a rule that is not enforced doesn't scare anyone away from violation.

"Legal recourse" that will never apply in any realistic situation and turns the license into a legal minefield because it now concerns itself with usage instead of further development. Doing things for the sake of doing things is grade A retardation, though sadly common.

No, the reason people still murder is because people are people. Most people are only in it for their own self-interest. That's why violations still exist.

Either way, you're just shitposting.
There's no reason to not use the software, except for Jim and "muh case law" as an excuse."
In reality, he just wanted to leave his options open to monetize it in a way that his bottom of the barrel third-world software outsourcing firm could shit out at in the least possible time instead of making the software better.
When you consider the caliber of people he hires, like Hotwheels, who consider regular expressions a good way to sanitize CSS, it's not so surprising.

Anti-freedom user continues to argue that Josh should've allowed Jim to violate his donor's rights and redacted his license for extra profit.

The people donated to improve the site not have a specific license few had ever heard of be used. GPL compatible was what was expected.

If anything it's Josh that has denied them their due by claiming ownership and not allowing the license to be changed by the person who initially chose it, collected the donations and paid him to make Infinity Next. Trusting or working with him is a mistake few people will make after this.

GPL compatible is useless on the server, in the context of free software.
It might as well be permissive.

Please, just stop making shit up. Just because your fat pig fucker of an owner couldn't get his way does not mean Josh denied anyone's right to use anything.

You know, this anti-freedom user seems to really hate 16chan. It's almost as if he has a vested financial interest in making sure Holla Forums stays popular.

Yes that's why HW initially chose the AGPL for it. But as far as the 4 freedoms are concerned it's not useless.

The people didn't donate 12k directly to Josh to do whatever he wanted. By not allowing HW to change the license he overstepped his authority and denied the users who funded the project the original intended use of having used on Holla Forums. He wasn't hired to protect the interests of the community or choose what license he deemed as appropriate. He was hired to work on Infinity Next.

You should really stop embarrassing, josh. Donors wanted Holla Forums to get a new software. Open source? Many cared. AGPL? They don't know/care what that is. They didn't give a fuck who you are or what specific license you used. They wanted to make Holla Forums great again. You failed them. The guy who suggested the license himself told you to change it to GPL. You have the right to grant Holla Forums an AGPL license, but you refused because you are selfish.

Not only that, but you gave up on developing Infinity Next. So you stopped development, missed deadlines AND refused to grant others the complete freedom to finish your job without the threat of lawsuits:

03:02:57 %n-tech I haven't worked on Next much at all since everyone just threw their hands up and gave up

03:03:06 ~copypaste ok so no parallel test

03:03:08 ~copypaste just like i thought

03:03:08 %n-tech I have no money and no motivation, literally every single person in the world just gave up==

Do you expect anyone to hire you when he reads that? Missing deadlines? Expecting people who owe you nothing to provide you with technical (and emotional) support to a job you got paid for?

You should really stop embarrassing, josh. Donors wanted Holla Forums to get a new software. Open source? Many cared. AGPL? They don't know/care what that is. They didn't give a fuck who you are or what specific license you used. They wanted to make Holla Forums great again. You failed them. The guy who suggested the license himself told you to change it to GPL. You have the right to grant Holla Forums an AGPL license, but you refused because you are selfish.

Not only that, but you gave up on developing Infinity Next. So you stopped development, missed deadlines AND refused to grant others the complete freedom to finish your job without the threat of lawsuits:

03:02:57 %n-tech I haven't worked on Next much at all since everyone just threw their hands up and gave up

03:03:06 ~copypaste ok so no parallel test

03:03:08 ~copypaste just like i thought

03:03:08 %n-tech I have no money and no motivation, literally every single person in the world just gave up

Do you expect anyone to hire you when he reads that? Missing deadlines? Expecting people who owe you nothing to provide you with technical (and emotional) support to a job you got paid for?

You realize no one is going to care about what you have to say if you keep doing this, right?

No of course not. You don't get paid to think. You get paid to post. ;^)

Just fork the fucking thing under the same licence

It's his copyright.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_for_Creative_Non-Violence_v._Reid
lel
No one can tell you what to license your code unless you're actually an employee.

Here's the fact: Jim denied the users who funded the project because he couldn't get his way.
Which failed because of your incompetent cripple and the fact that 2ch engineers love to tell their little pet cripple which stack to use but can't get off their ass and actually rock-bottom fundamental isssues with this site like the DB schema after doubling down on vichan.

Nice double post, asperger.
Hotwheels was all pumped to outsource a VCL config for next and fix all the little dynamic bits while he sat around doing nothing, just like he had done nothing for six months.

Nice try, josh. You made the same retarded argument at /egy/ and you are making it here again.

DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND

THIS WAS A CALCULATED ATTACK BY THE JOSHMAN

HE

STOLE

$12,000,000

FROM THE HUNGRY, SHAKING HANDS OF A

POOR DEFENSELESS CRIPPLE

WHO JUST WANTED TO MAKE GOOD MEME SOFTWARE WITH HIS BASED FRIEND AND HELPER, JIM WATKINS, WHO IS TRULY BASED.

That FUCKING THIEF!!!!!!! needs to FREE THE SOFTWARE under an identical free license with only the requirement to publish source code changes removed!!!!!!!!!!

You realize no one is going to care about what you have to say if you keep doing this, right?

Never forget Jim is not to be trusted.

I doubt it was HW captcha, or was only HW's captcha, but let's assume it is. He owe you nothing. The donors PAID YOU, not him. You had deadlines. You missed them. More importantly, it was YOUR responsibility to profile the code and find what parts are slow.

Coming MONTHS LATER and saying it was HW captcha is more embarrassing than saying it was an architectural problem or something. This mean you was so incompetent you could know that a function or few functions were slowing you down.

Seriously, someone who fucked up this much would make 10s of compromises to please the donors, but no, you decided to rob them.

You realize no one is going to care about what you have to say if you keep doing this, right?

...

You realize no one is going to care about what you have to say if you keep doing this, right?

Nobody here denies that.

No it was Josh by not changing the license. Jim decides what license 8ch software will run on; if the project developed for 8ch and funded by 8ch users doesn't comply with what the owner of 8ch can allow due to legal concerns then who is at fault? Josh was hired to work on Infinity Next for 8ch and has failed spectacularly in almost every possible way including license compliance.

Josh missed deadlines because he spent two months fixing Laravel to work well on PGSQL for the dataset they had. That was all because 2ch engineers changed what they were deploying to or couldn't give him a straight answer, and in the end they still under delivered on hardware for testing.
It was tho.

hmmm must be josh's. fuck that guy.

Daily reminder that the Tinyboard links in the footer are specifically directed at exactly the idiots that defend this shitty software

Defend what? Next or Vichan?
STI was a Wordpress developer from Melbourne who shit himself when /g/ called his employer because he wouldn't stop shitting up the Tox project.
His only claim to fame was hosting boards that moot deleted so he could better secure seed funding for his canv.as venture.

flush because of STI's shitty software. how pertinent.

are we working yet?

In a way he really was

That's not only not original it's bad grammar.

Nevertheless saying that it isn't snake oil/unenforceable doesn't make it true either.

Are you telling me that if someone on an imageboard finds a vulnerability in the code that isn't supposed to be there and isn't in the repository that they're going to sue?

Whether you're naive or braindead is becoming a finer line the more you open your mouth quite frankly.

Over and over and over again.

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THE AUTHOR CAN'T BE SUED FOR NOT FOLLOWING THE LICENSE
the license terms apply to licensees, not licensors. if you take Infinity Next from Josh under the AGPL terms and turn it into a non-private running service, he _can_ sue the shit out of you if you don't make the source code available (changes included). You don't get to sue him for keeping some changes secret, for he can put different versions of his software under different licenses, one is proprietary botnet, and the other, a crippled AGPL nonbotnet

If you contributed code to Next you can sue him, though.

The only redeeming features were lack of censorship and hotpocketeering. They're gone now. It's just a slower version of 4cuck.

>You must really hate that Josh guy which invalidates your argument.
Nice strawman friendo.