What does Holla Forums this of Epic Privacy Browser?

wew lad

lad come on now

Of course FLOSS software can be cancer. Have you never used ALSA before?

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I installed it.

I found their proprietary search engine.

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DESIGNATED SHITTING BROWSER

This is kind of epic. I can't say if this is fast since I'm on a virtual machine but shit's cool.

There is literally nothing wrong with ALSA unless you are pants on head retarded

Look at the URL.

BDS

It shows a pop up of everything it finds tracking.

what the fuck it monitors your other browsers?

Never mind it's actually slow as shit going to any webpage because of it's blockage and automatic proxy.

Holy shit it does.

Holy shit it does. Apparently I already posted the picture but the thread shat itself and is not showing it.

nvm

Internet Explorer viewer is broken though.

sounds like a fucking scam

That's just creepy. I don't want my browser monitoring anything else on my computer

Honestly, their ad blocking does not block a fucking thing. On top of that, you can't add anything that's not on their fucking store, and there's literally jack and shit there to help block ads. Go to a porn site, fucking ads popping at you so fast, you'll either end up with a fake notice from Microsoft telling you to call an 800 number, or fucking MacKeeper annoying the fuck out of you on every page.

Epic Search is Yandex.
Yandex is Russian.
No way to change it.
I like the IDEA of the Epic Browser, but locking it down where you can't change the search engine or add ad blocking extensions, etc makes it more of an Epic fail, than simply epic.

ebin!

You're a fucking retard, it literally uses the same filter lists as every other blocker you goddamned fucking moron.

Right, part of the whole "make an actually secure browser" thing, dipshit.

Epic Broser is literally just reading the public directories of other browsers.

Do you run any kind of AV? They do the same fucking thing.

Holy fuck you people are like children.

The proxy isn't automatic, it's the little "plug" icon. If you set it to green, you're proxied globally. You can also set the proxy on a per page basis, or turn it off completely.

The proxy part is what bothers me most

Because I'm highly, highly suspicious that they're using Hola or something like Hola where you become a node when you're proxied up.

I haven't verified this whatsoever, but the IPs I've pulled a couple of times looked like residential IPs, and when I tried prxying to a stateful protocol like IRC, the proxies would randomly disappear and I would lag out, which is what happened with Hola whenever the hapless idiot you were routing though logged off or whatever else.

If we could verify the proxy behavior as not turning the user into an exit node, Epic Browser might actually be a fucking great browser

But I advise caution in the mean time.

No when you connect to a webpage, it automatically connects you to the proxy. when you are on a client side page, you are disconnected automatically. Now yes you can manually disable this by clicking on it, but it resets.

It does not do this you fucking moron.

If the proxy icon is red, it's disabled globally.

Test this yourself. Turn off the proxy and load up ipchicken.com

It will be your modem's IP.

The proxy is completely optional, only the search page is a forced proxy, because that's one of the primary privacy features of the browser.

How the fuck are you on Holla Forums and so goddamn dumb?

How much are they paying you to shill their proprietary botnet?

Well, since they don't have that stupid fucking bitcoin bullshit built in to deposit the $0.00001 into my account like Brave that's shilled here all the fucking time, absolutely nothing.

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wew lad

It's allegedly not closed source.

I assume this means it's non-disclosure source, meaning, you sign an NDA, and you get to see the source. This is a viable business strategy, and they ARE trying to run a business.

I don't like it, but if we can get confirmation by trusted third parties (like the EFF, perhaps) that the code (at each release) is secure, then I think Epic might be a great option.

Brave wouldn't be open source either if they weren't banking ion the BTC bullshit.

Browsers fucking take resources your fucking spergs.

Go use Palemoon on ur leet Gentoo if you're so fucking worried,

lynx

This is a perfect example of why open source != free software

it is buzzwords and it is closed source spyware just like opera

disgusting

DDDDDD

What Browser do you use?
poal.me/3k7zq4

But that's not true. You just didn't read the open source definition. You also didn't read the FSF's article about why open is not as strong as free. Very close to all open source software is free software. Epic isn't open source.

Well it isn't closed source either.

So what do you call it?

he's right

it depends on a lot of thing user
open source does not mean that you can reproduce yourself the exact software
open source is a trap by making you believe that it's part of free software
gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.en.html

There's no good definition of "closed source", but I usually interpret it as "not open source". With that definition, it's closed source.

With your definition Windows isn't closed source either, because some people can get access to a lot of their source code.

Sure but you're presupposing that free software is superior.

I personally give zero fucks if software is free.

Why?

Because forks are almost always, always fucking garbage and I even though I program, I've literally never once in my life given enough of a shit to touch anyone else's code when it does what I nominally expect it to, and I suspect essentially no one else on this board has ever recompiled a browser or any other piece of commodity software with their own changes ever either.

Fuck free.

All I care about is that the software I use can be trusted, and technically that precludes it even necessarily being OSS, though I can't actually name any orgs I'd trust unequivocally.

Still, something like Epic's NDA-source is fine by me as long as I can audit it and can trust that people much much better at security auditing as me can audit it.

is LibreOffice garbage ?
is Inkscape garbage ?
is tor garbage ?

there are too much forks for you to generalize that user

that's you and only you
free/libre software is for everyone and thinking only about yourself will in the end even kill opensource.

Opensource isn't as transparent as free/libre software if you want trust you are doing it the wrong way m8
it is not the people you must trust it's yourself

closable source

That's just not true. You don't know what "open source" means. Read this:
opensource.org/osd-annotated

I know what open source means the problem with it is that it's mostly use by companies like google with android to promote their software
can you see a samsung users be free/libre with their phone ?
no
because google even if they did a opensource software they have restrained their users

opensource give power to the creators under the name of neutrality

wile free/libre software protects the users under the name of the four freedoms

The freedom to run the program as you wish, for any purpose (freedom 0).

The freedom to study how the program works, and adapt it to your needs (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a precondition for this.

The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help your neighbor (freedom 2).

The freedom to improve the program, and release your improvements to the public, so that the whole community benefits (freedom 3). Access to the source code is a precondition for this.

opensource has a similar goal as free/libre software but it can be legally used badly.

Samsung users aren't free/libre with their phone, but they aren't open source with their phone either.

I think you're confusing "open source" with "permissive". Do you want me to give you "open source" people recommending the GPL and "free software" people recommending permissive licensing?

Free software can be under a license that allows you to make it proprietary, and open source can be under a license that doesn't allow doing that.

No, because it has an entire software Foundation behind it will millions of dollars and tens of thousands of man hours in backing.

Not really a fork, it's a wholecloth successor to a defunct piece of OSS.

Not really a fork either, it's TOR+FF+Plugins. It's a distribution.

Great, who pays for it?

Software is hard. Software takes effort. Software takes time.

Who fucking pays for it?

The reason BSD/MIT licensing isn't very popular is because at the very least viral licenses like the GPL give you a legalistic guarantee that your own contributions will be "compensated" for with the ability to potentially harvest others contributions to the codebase.

GPL is saying "you don't necessarily have to pay me in dollars, but you have to pay me in code."

It's all an economic calculation in the end, and your sacred four freedoms only work in an ecosystem where no one needs to make a living off their work.

And that's not how you get robust, featureful software, children.

Who ever that willing to fund it. Maybe you must have been dwelling in the cave, since you don't know that there are people who earn million of dollars just in a day simply because they choose to fund raise their project.

Having GPL license give a lot more trust to the users. Its not only good for the whole user but for the developers too since the license doesn't restrict anything for what people can do to the software.

Unlike permissive license, this kind of practice could potentially open to abusing developers with lawsuit simply because the license doesn't respect user freedom to share their modified code to general public. Just imagine if a kike lords who owns the whole source code of every operating system in the world, and only certain selected developer are allowed to edit and share the source code to public. All you get in the end is anti competition and monopoly.

t. google(tm)

blink != chromium

Why do you idiots keep saying Epic is blink based?

It's a fucking CHROMIUM FORK.

I'm guessing you don't know what Blink is.

Alright, since you obviously know shit about what you're talking about and you're insistent that Google's own browser doesn't use Google's own HTML rendering engine, tell us, what does Chromium use nowadays?

What? Chromium used the Stink rendering engine. What are you talking about? Are you saying that stink isn't exclusive to chromium?

What are you smoking? Chromium is a FOSS project (with tons of botnet) that Chrome took, added proprietary software/blobs to, and called "Chrome."

You didn't understand what the original anons were suggesting.

They made it sound like Epic was a new browser built around Blink, when it's actually just a privacy and security focused FORK of Chromium, which obviously uses Blink.

The point is, they're complaining about Blink, why? Because they're fucking stupid.

My point was that it's not a new browser build around Blink, it's just a Chromium fork.

Oh my bad, I forgot Mozilla hosts all the infrastructure and makes 99% of the commits :^)

Chromium is developed by Google and was created from the start to be Chrome's base.

Those digits are pretty epic though.

I don't trust built in. Only real way is an open add on API for all that in a small FOSS browser that is reasonably auditable, and mandate all add ons be open source as well.

Basically, what Firefox was originally supposed to be.

using >brave
lol that browser don't even support image download or literally any kind of download.
even the old or the current botnet netscape is way better.
botnet.