Civil War (((Current Year))) edition

There will be no balkanization. The government will be killed en masse and the nation will be rebuilt under a stronger constitution.

That may happen in the end, yes, but it will be divided among cultural lines until that time comes about

I think that as soon even before the balkanization FSB,CIA,MOSSAD,&others will be all involved in some operation gladio like clashes.

No way would Iowa and Michigan be part of this shitty country anymore. Chicago would be under bandit rule causing extreme supply line problems in weimerica causing it to balkanize further.

Its been documented that they've trained for this, where do you think the idea for the Enclave from Fallout came from?

No I meant before the balkanization FSB, CIA, and MOSSAD would be flopping all over America causing clashes, distributary arms to groups/training. We do know that the HQ of the "enclave" would be the Raven Rock complex.

I had that in my notes originally, there are many areas in all splintered unions that have violent internal strife. Mostly within the SU and Wiemerica, PCU's primary problem would be Azteca terrorists.

daily reminder that those pics in the op are a pipedream and fantasy bullshit

large amounts of the military are welfare queens and will fight for liberalism

if they are dumb enough to believe and fight for neo-cons and democracy, they are dumb enough to believe you guys are hitler

ultra-right nationalists and libertarians will be btfo in months by the combined might of law enforcement, the military, homeland sec, armed gangs, and leftists

Would the Aztecas be a super cartel consisting of all the street gangs such as MS and 18th st?

Plausibly but not necessarily, its not a nation or a government or an organized structure. Just raiding parties.

Not unless the right agency is supporting said far right groups. Cough cough foreign players involved.

Utah is going to establish a Mormon theocracy

6/10

Which would be wipes out by roving packs of spics within a week.

Posted this the last time we had a civil war thread, posting again because relevant:

socialmatter.net/2016/04/22/the-u-s-a-cannot-balkanize/

pic related, our only hope. it's a better shot for us than civil war. we're going to look more like venezeula or brazil than yugoslavia or the USSR.

Its supposed to be realistic not a stormfag fantasy

Nah, Utah elected the first atheist senator in US history, not enough unity around mormonism for that. Thats why I put them in a christian union with the other states, because the others would begrudgingly accept them as "christian".

Maybe foreign support. But internally, it's not going to happen.

This is the problem with 11b faggots like in the OP, they lack any sort of broad scope of what the problem is.

The left and Jews control more than just, "muh government." They control what is thought by the populace as right and wrong.

This can't be solved with killing either. Even if you go kill a bunch of academics or media personalities, people will still believe they are in the right due to dozens of years of indoctrination. Current moral values act as a mission command for leftists, gov employees, and so on.

If dumb motherfuckers like the guys screenshotted in the OP can't work this out, we are doomed to fail.

The political violence will have foreign power players involved. Just like the years of lead in Italy.and the troubles in Ireland.

Cold war part 2 electric boogaloo

Just infiltrate user. That's all we have to do.

This I have no doubt combat arms is white and breddy redpilled most of the military is not combat arms most of it is niggers and spics

You faggots have no idea who Mormons are. No one else in this country is even remotely religious

Is it top ramen or supermeal brand tonight moshe?

It's maruchan yakisoba tonight goy. Gotta love that BPA in the microwave.

People like yourself are why we are going to get our asses kicked.

The last few hundred years are basically leftists and Jews fighting and winning multiple revolutions and wars.

The symmetry between right wing and left wing win/losses is astounding. They win, and they win constantly. We lose all the time. There is like a handful of rightist victories, and many of them don't stand the test of time. There is no way you can look at history and say this isn't the case. If you do, you must be some blue-pilled democracy loving faggot from RedState.

Writing the left off, because of, "muh purple-haired SJWs" is possibly the dumbest strategic mistake one could make.

We must create so much strife and conflict that even the most powerful nation must fall to complete no laws. The only hope we really have is to keep the ideology hidden and flourishing until the point where they turn on eachother.

wew boy, you're not one for keeping your cover are you?

Anyways, it's defeatists like you that underestimate the right wing and over-estimate pozzed lefties that deny the white race victory. As has been pointed out countless times before, the left devours its own quite readily, and to even think that they will put aside their difference to form a unified offensive on any front is the nadir of stupidity.

You're retarded and know nothing about the US

go back to squatting in your basement

Aztecas wouldn't happen.

If it wasn't for the feds AZ would still be at war with Mexico. We hate the fucking beaners. Guarantee you as soon as anything goes down the border is going to be used as a killing field/target practice for the militias.

Which is why the mormons in mexico have totally been wiped out right? lol. Say what you will about them, they're beyond doomsday preppers.

see

Ah yes, calling me some sort of JIDF again. You sit here and say the left devours itself, it's amusing to me you can't see that you are doing the same thing due to your paranoia and inability to take criticism.

I'm also not being a defeatist. I'm being realistic. I'm telling you what your problems are. An actual militaristic person who had smarts would see this, and work out ways to overcome it. This guy: gets it. He knows how to respond.

A scared, demoralized woman – like yourself – when confronted with a problem would shriek, "DEMORALIZER!"

no states will rise to power for at least a few years because globalism has entirely fucked infrastructure. select regions may rise but they will most likely be shut down by the (((UN))).

also im assuming SHTF. a true insurrection would be an assassination/sniper/bombing campaign until (((they))) felt threatened enough to bring down america totally though any number of options. some being economic collapse/disease outbreaks/grid attacks.

The Rocky Mountains / Great Basin would most likely be a barrier between the west coast and the mid west.

Southern California would be instantly fucked if it tried to secede from the north, but may be able to survive from Colorado river water.

Basically the water is the most important thing in considering western territories, and whoever controlled the water sources would end dictating everyone downstream. Most of the Aztec areas wouldn't last a week and the European types would be supremely advantaged in the mountain areas where the water comes from.

A man can dream, Holla Forums, a man can dream…

You accuse the right of acting like the left, yet the right has never been stronger or more unified. Do you not pay attention to Trump rallies, the smaller scale push-back against liberal programming, and the open criticism of cuckservatives, or are you just programmed not to?

If you're being realistic, then explain to me exactly how a leftist military would counter any of the points brought up in the first picture.
Are you trying to tell me that the disorganized clusterfuck the American military has become can only become stronger by letting in yet more minorities, women, and the disabled–by letting them take operational command instead of just being footsoldiers? How would such an army used to fighting 90-IQ sand-niggers deal with white soldiers utilizing guerrilla warfare in urban and rural environments that completely compromise large unit formations? Even beyond that, what answer do you have for people in positions of power siding with the rebelling faction and acting as moles, government saboteurs, and militia trainers? Are you telling me the left is so strong is can even fight back and crush foreign intervention that springs into motion the moment heavy artillery is used against civilians?

Go ahead and mumble your flaccid ad hominen response to earn those sheckls, the burden of proof is on you and neither nor your panic masters have a single leg left to stand on.

that's quite an infantile dream

An adult dream would be wanting the nigger tortured to death for every individual law passed in the last 8 years. Meaning heart stopped and then defibrillator used to bring him back.

All the major wars were won by right-wing individuals who were controlled by leftist politicians.

We're coming up on the final break, globally, of all right wing individuals from leftist control. This is going to be a whole new ball game, and you need to use very different precedents for this one.

nice job outing yourself

stop posting user, you are being narcissistic, you win nothing with your argument. we can see your point, you claim that we should be optimistic about our chances which is fine but we should listen to the other user and make sure to plan for the enemy to be stronger than us. NEVER underestimate anyone in life, it is far better to be over prepared and cautious than arrogant and foolhardy. remember custer in the blackhills. us americans have gotten arrogant, arrogance and hubris come before a fall. left and right are nebulous terms that come from the enlightenment. if there was a social collapse you could expect the socialists to become 10x more dangerous than they are today.

your entire post is pseudo-intellectual bullshit. I am really quite sick off all the normie tier IQ level idiots who use all this cliche broscience and neat little slogans to formulate "arguments" that amount to what is essentially hubristic sabre rattling. I would be willing to bet that most LARPers here have never actually engaged in politics IRL let alone guerrilla warfare and beyond that I would imagine a large percentage of posters here have not even shot at paper before let alone at other armed combatants. all this empty talk is extremely bad "karma" or meme magic if you prefer. we all like to shit talk how disorganized the mudshits are at fighting, but when war comes to the west we are going to see all the hard talking low IQ rednecks and gear queer mallninjas put their money where their mouth is and I would imagine we will see the exact same behavior.

If TX joined with any other states, the alliance would be called Greater Texas and would consist of Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, and Louisiana.

Your argument is full of ad homs and reeks of jewry.

Die in a fire.

You don't come from these parts.
I don't know where you came from, all I know is that you need to go back.

It's the despair shills, they get triggered when they realize that they and their families are going to be hung from lamp posts.

Notice as well the lack of punctuation and the cliche block of text: these faggots are typing out of fear and anxiety.

patton was not "right-wing"

you have the political knowledge of a child, he was at most a classical liberal and the entire left right dichotomy comes from the french revolution. if the liberal order collapses there will be no right-wing or left-wing. libertarians and paleoconservatives, regional socialists, regional nationalists, ethno-nationalists and anarchists will not "unite" under some big-tent "muh right wing". many failed states devolve into total chaos with multiple factions striving for control. the liberian civil war had 14 factions. america is completely heterogeneous, there will be total chaos

yeah you are fucking new as shit if you think Holla Forums was all about meme spewing and TRS slogans

keep LARPing, I bet you've never even fired a weapon beyond 50 yards

Goddamn biblical levels of salt in this thread, and it's all coming from you shylock.

All talk; no policy consequences. Call me back when you aren't larping. You'd have to be totally delusional to not see that the left still are winning. Organization and abstract planning is not action and operations. If the right were winning, we wouldn't even be having a conversation about open borders, mass immigration, trannies, and various other garbage.

Go back to the post you originally responded to. You'd realize I listed a bunch of people who would team up to take you down. You pointed one person from the list. I'm saying that your average low-level leftist on the street will ally with the powers-that-be. They won't be the only group, but certainly one of many. I also pointed out that it is historically false that the left doesn't fight.

No, I'm saying the American military has yet to prove to me that they aren't still dumbasses and chained dogs for the (((globalists))).

It's not evident to me that the US military would side with rightists, since it is not less than 15 years ago since a global war started in multiple countries under the same left/jew bullshit about democracy and r2p.

Again, people like yourself are looking at this all wrong. You are looking at this war entirely from a military standpoint with a whole bunch of assumptions built in that fly in the face of current facts. That major fact being that lefts and Jews control the ideology of the West. While there might be holdouts, they've influenced politicians, the populace, and large amounts of the military (including officers and fighting units) to do what they expect.

None of this is factored in any of the stupid "muh red teaming" crap that /k/ pushes out.

The US military and other western countries just fought 15 years of a global war with mass surveillance both foreign and domestic. They've perfected manhunts and become competent enough at counter-insurgency. Now they'll be fighting an insurgency on American soil. That means they know the language, they know the culture. I would say that is an advantage in favor of the counter-insurgents and guerilla hunters. They also have a massive domestic intelligence system: homeland sec, NSA mass surveillance, FBI, cops, DEA, etc.

As to IQ, that matters for leadership and command, not so much for cannon fodder. If you've ever encountered the officer class, you'll know that large amounts of them, including officers in command of fighting units, are liberal or something close to it. As to junior NCO leadership, IQ works on a bell curve. There is going to be smart guys among the dumbasses, that will rise up as tactically competent.

More "hope strategy." You don't get the difference between what is the case, and what could be the case.

Your lack of knowledge and larping is showing here. Artillery is typically used as suppressive fire for successful fire and movement of friendlies. That is pretty much its main role. They aren't going to just start bombing civvie randoms unless its collateral, in which case, they control the media and the internet anyway. So good luck with that.

That's my entire point.

See above post about US military.

The most demoralized people here are actually the people who claim others here are shills.

I mean seriously, question for all of you: do you really think such a mindset is going to help you win?

When I come into the tent after a mission, and tell you our enemy has over run some key terrain, are you going to call me a demoralizer? Are you going to call me a shill?

If that's different, then why is planning now different? If we are talking about abstract weaknesses, that could be plugged up, then why call others who point out weaknesses, shills?

If I was being paranoid, I'd call you and others like you, the shills, as you aren't actually interested in winning and adapting, but whining.

I'll say it again, like I've said for the last year: you people with this mindset are going to get us killed.

you have completely missed my point because you actually think our argument matters.

1. I am a WN and I agree with you ideologically
2. talking hard on the internet means nothing

the liberal order is our current schema, when it collapses there will be a new void, WN is a loose ideology, it can be economically "liberal" or economically "conservative", it can be socially "conservative" or socially "liberal" depending on what best allows for the survival of european descended people. this loose framework and the fact that situations demand flexibility causes WN to be focused on realpolitik, this will cause friction with the rest of the "right wing" who are cuckservatives, the old left will likewise die out and be replaced with non-white ethno-nationalists and white socialists many of whom may become racialists while the rest may remain universalist traitors.

it would be incredibly easy for the gov't to have the military round up "racists", the trump phenomena has made a lot of less intelligent or new among us believe that the "civic" cuckservatives are actually becoming racialist. we still have a long fucking way to go before your average white guy won't sell out WN to the ATF "hostage rescue" teams for some food and water

Do you understand ethnic nationalism is fascism at it's core?

They either get in line or they'll get crushed under boot by whoever claims power in the country.

Block of text with no sources that amounts to sticking your head in the sand and crying "Nu-uh". For all your anger you still can't muster the effort to include one non-pozzed source to support your claims? It's easy, let me show you:

aaenemies.blogspot.com/2013_01_01_archive.html

Listen to a Colonel tell you exactly why letting women and minorities into the army is a terrible idea on all accounts. You won't read it though, and instead you'll revert to ad homein and repeating yourself

Your argument isn't based on logic, but the emotion of despair as points out. This is why you D&C shills always get spotted, you're just shit at blending in.

the arrogance of a lot of the "awake" muh filters people and some of the people on these websites really fucking scares me, its like the idiots at the first battle of bull run. everyone thought it was going to be a good bit of fun and everyone was arrogant and it lead to the worst war we've ever had. a second american civil war will be horrific.

my personal favorite is how many americans think our fancy gear and guns are going to make us any different than mujahideen if we "fight" the military (which has spent the better part of a decade learning how to exterminate insurgents)

could you imagine hard talking bundie ranch faggots reacting to ATF hostage rescue teams with FLIR taking them out at obscene ranges with truck mounted .50s or even using apaches against them? all this hard talk and hubris is going to lead to a slap of realty

even the fantasy novel, the turner diaries isn't this laughably naive about how power consolidation works. "crushing" others under a boot can lead to people like joseph stalin assuming control over a formerly idealistic project and turning it into a hellscape which sells itself back to the oligarchy.

hell even jack london's "iron heel" describes this exact thing happening.

The midwestern states are where all the nukes are.

the IQ level of this board is in a terminal nosedive at this point, I really think that whole redtext meme (right wing death squads) was the death knell of this board. there is almost no difference between this board and 4chan anymore.

You aren't very good at this, I won't tell you what you did wrong but it's time to quit.

its dakota and montana right?

In Minnesota, the Twin Cities will burn, but there's a lot of cabin in the woods type of people that will weather the storm in the northern part of the state pretty well I'd imagine.

Plus the opportunity to flee to Canada.

whatever faggot I can believe how much LARPing goes on this board at this point, its pretty sad. call me a jew all you want. I bet you aren't even 18 since you are using meme generator shit

Come home shill man, there is plenty of room for you and all your friends.

I sincerely hope you don't get paid for this, you're fucking horrible at it.

Doesn't matter if that's not HOW it works NOW, that's HOW it WILL work. It's how it's always worked.

You think when SHTF, people who are radicalized are going to spend time to pander to others who are stuck in their not so extreme ways?

The law of nature stays the same when society breaks down, you either adapt or you die and the strongest will rule and they will rule absolute.

So like I said, they'll either get in line, they'll flee or they'll die under heel.

damn those trips were wasted on such a shitty response. you have nothing but LARPing, the best part is you aren't even well read enough to come across as convinced in your own arguments so you resort to calling everyone a jew like we are on Holla Forums and you are 15

I'm just laughing at how persistently you're shilling.

What timezone are you in? I know you guys have a data center out in California. Is it morning in Tel Aviv?

Is it still 10 cents a post or are you paid in shekels?

all this garbage broscience, a continent spanning superstate does not naturally will itself towards a single party state, a country with 300 million people doesn't not get "crushed" under the boot of anyone in any short period of time without decades of bloody conflict and foreign intervention. you clearly need to study the russian time of troubles, the russian red terror and civil war, the 30 years war to start because you are just shitting out pseudo-intellectual garbage because the other user blew you the fuck out and you can't handle having you little toughguy act being called out for how hollow it really is

my VPN is broken otherwise I would change it to tel aviv just so you could have an argument to stand on

Your the shill. Fighting a realistic opinion in favor of a fantasy sounds like a real shill right there.

The man you are arguing with has a realistic point of view that always needs to be addressed in these conversations. The US military has drones, AC-130s, superior Fite altogether. The electricity we use is kept securely. The water is government owned. They even have sound weapons, mind control systems, and a stockpile of chemical weapons. We would lose if we didn't suck some foreign power players metaphorical cock. The only chance we really have in a combat situation is the help of the Russians. That's a fact. The only help we have in the social aspect of a revolution is the army of school children who probably deposit redpills often.

North Dakota, Montana, and the tristate area of Wyoming Nebraska and Colorado.

You can either take my arguments as a priori or a posteriori.

The OP pictures also lack sources, yet you trust them a priori. If there is something a priori wrong with my claims specifically, then point them out. I doubt you can.

I'm not angry, where in the post does it indicate anger? Why do you guys take criticism as shilling or anger?

What claim would you like me to support? There is pretty much nothing in my post that is controversial to someone who has similar background knowledge and is willing to look at reality as it is.

I won't read it, because it is irrelevant to the claims being made. No one is making an argument about long-term constitution of troops. We are talking about civil war scenarios and what drives defections or support for the rulers.

The supposed "smart" and non-pozzed elements of the military still supported globalism, still supported liberalism, and still supported the Jews. The mechanism that does this is still in place. Yet you somehow think they are above this – without argument.

Troop make-up is completely irrelevant to this claim.

If you are using this as an argument for your fantasy /k/ GORILLA WAR, then again, you are ignoring my argument about what the US and the west have been doing for the last 15 years: counter-insurgency, manhunts, and mass surveillance. All things that are pertinent for the argument that makes another thing the "red team" larpers have not factored into their plans.

Not an argument. Unsupported proposition.

Hilarious though that you accuse me of lack of logic, when you cannot even muster up an argument yourself.

That's correct. The overconfidence of the nascent right and the underestimation of the enemy is going to be their downfall, sadly.

here is some homework for you little kid, since you know nothing. spend tonight watching this movie about "shitskins", this happened 100 years ago, the collapse of the ottoman empire created a power vacuum in the middle east, 100 years later states are still trying to "crush everyone under their boot" to become the regional super power. let that sink in

That's the first time I've been called a shill but I don't post that often unless I'm drinking.
Are you 838bf1 with a new IP? you sound the same.
Either way you should read through the Terminal Lance before you assume the military will fight their countrymen for the sake of the green wienie. I could count the number on one hand that I've worked with that might actually do it but I'll admit many could be coerced by threatening their family.
The repercussions of doing that might be counterproductive though.

Why are you so angry?

What other user? The only person who's replied to me, is you. The only other person replying to you, is you. What are you talking about?

Also what tough guy act? I'm new in this bread and I'm stating facts of nature, open your eyes and learn2readID.

300 million? Sure I agree

But people who meet certain conditions that the dictator doesn't like?

How'd you know your big American fascist won't be a part of the government making rapid power plays? Or even a military commander with a coup set in stone for years? All that arsenal just sitting around is gonna start raining down on citizens of certain criteria that King Burger doesn't like.

you do know there is a fucking massive war going on there right now right?

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this is the biggest cue to know that the poster is going to start spewing bullshit broscience, shit like R/K selection and Alpha/Beta shit

Right because you seize control in a destabilized region by shaking hands and implementing more democracy and gun control.

This is why I'm supporting Trump

I'd also take Bernie, but Bernie's more likely to serve globalist interests, and even if he didn't and just cucked out and followed his pacifist principles, it'd still be bad for America, and I'm not that spitful of burgers yet.

Where are you from m8?

TRUMP UNOPPOSED BY OCTOBER

That's only if Hillary doesn't hire a Master Wizard

Keep going, this is entertaining.

Let's see if you can get more than the last guy, I think the record for you guys is (92) so far on Holla Forums

While that is true, civil wars/rebellions/insurgencies rarely come out of nowhere.

There is a small chance that, even right now, if the Los Angeles Riots of 1992 were to happen again in our environment of #BLM, there would be all-out civil war, because some whites would respond in kind, and it would escalate across the country.

Right now, that likelihood is small. Fast forward even 5 years from now, and it might be better than even. Things are changing in the body politic, and doing so quite rapidly.

Don't forget based rooftop Koreans during the LA riots. It goes beyond so much more than white v non-white.

Relations between the nogs and the chongs have never really been the same since.

Oh, for the demoralization shill:

The entire might of the US military couldn't take out Afghanistan, a nation of illiterate goatfuckers. It was a strategic loss and everyone knows it. Any insurgency action in the USA will include military defections, and drone strikes, artillery and armor in major urban centers is a complete PR nightmare. Not to mention all the militia men, endtimers, preppers, rednecks and assorted survivalists who are just waiting for the chance to strike back at the gubmint. Holla Forums is just one barb on the spear that's about to go straight up your ass, and the desperate shilling against "3000 irrelevant internet nazis" only hammers in the point that the shills and jews are terrified of losing, because they know any open, armed conflict results in their inevitable loss.

The Army is at its lowest point in decades
zerohedge.com/news/2016-05-14/us-army-shrinks-smallest-1940-chinese-military-recruiting-accelerates

We could even start talking about how Putin gamed the USA with Ukraine, dumped the shitty parts and outright took Crimea. Also we can talk about how Putin is willing to back Texas in any separatist movements, and I guarantee Texan ports will be filled with free slavshit the very second any USA insurgency begins.

The Happening is going to be very much in Holla Forums's favor, and the jews will finally pay for their crimes. It is unavoidable. Keep up the hysteria, d&c, demoralization and shilling though, it's just chum in the water for most of the Holla Forumsacks here.

It's going to be an absolute shitshow, and the jews are trying to keep their "big bad government" meme as inflated as possible.

They haven't bought escape submarines, bunkers and armored helicopters because they are going to "easily win" against an insurgency. They know they'll be hunted down like rats, and they're pissing themselves over it. They will reap what they've sown, and there'll be nowhere to run, nowhere to hide.

I just hope New Zealand anons and the Maori there get there hands on the few that make it over there, and flay them alive.

Very true. White vs blacks would be overly simplistic. It would be whites+Asians vs blacks, and Hispanics & Muslims the latter still a small minority here thankfully being opportunists, taking part in the looting and robbery, but avoiding conflict. Everyone hates niggers, that's a common theme, but not all Hispanics & Muslims would probably feel comfortable with whites beating the hell out of niggers.

It would be chaos, which is the only reason it would last more than a few days. In a pure black vs white race war, all you would have to do is pull the police out of the ghettos and blockade them. The blacks would loot and rape and kill and burn each other out with abandon for a week or so, then they would surrender.

No group other than sjw whites like them. The beans will purge them from LA and the only place they'll have to go is North towards Oregon and Washington.

Beans and rice will pretty much continue as is after that happens.

Very true. I remember Chomsky saying something typical of an academic, that if you have guns, they have tanks, and even if you get tanks, they have fighter jets, so you can never win these engagements.

An internal civil war, with the same people, or people who are close enough to feel a strong bond to one another, is not like that. Guys like this think a civil war is

That doesn't describe the United States. There are too many whites in the military.

That it is, that it is. I got a bet that the native government will condemn the natives which is their first and last mistake before they get dragged out into the streets and hung from lamp posts.

People will radicalize against kikes the minute you start showing evidence.

ISRAEL IS DONE BIG TIME.

Exactly, not to mention if we expand beyond ethnicity, people will try to rally behind ideology. Anarchists would be having a fucking ball.

Mmm, skirting the edges, true and not true. We all have an in group preference, but out group preferences tend to favour the white.

That said, all it takes is one Vietnam vet and ICE agent together to begin the Great Purge of the Rice & Beans™

And just like that, we have non-whites v whites within certain factions and militias

I think it's going to be spread out so much more than ethnicity in the early stages but white nationalists easily have the upper hand here, white nationalism brings together a lot more people authentically than any other ideology does imo.

Chomsky is an effete ivory tower kike who doesn't know what a MANPAD is.

Sweet, sweet fucking sweet.

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FULLY AUTOMATIC TEXAN AKS WHEEEWWWW

wow look its another hard talking larper who cites zerofuckinghedge as his reason for saying why we shouldn't fear the US mil during a supposed no-holds bar in country civil war where the ROE would be entirely different and much of their actual violent interactions with american citizens would probably be done through faceless bureaucratic agencies subcontracting from foreign mercs like mexican special forces and the like. I really win nothing with my arguments. I believe all the stuff you do, I want us to win, I want to have a white republic and not have to kow-tow to jews and minorities in the nation my fathers built but I don't get sanguine about something that is going to be terrible.

when it happens, I will probably die before you do, I don't care, the thing that keeps me up at night and makes me angry when all the hard talking LARPers (I'm not going to pretend like i've never peddled your line before, we all love to fantasize I'm not going to lie) masterbate like this is going to be some cakewalk and we all laugh at abu-hajaar and all the dead shitskins in syria when 5 years from now all the little school girls and boys I see walking to school everyday could be in some 2chan .jpg and all the slavs and shitskins and gooks will be laughing at all the stupid ameirfats while we kill each other and watch all our loved ones die.

you can call me a shill and say I am demoralizing you, its fine, I am not really interested in getting into another argument with some half-drunk user on a saturday night where absolutely nothing of value is going to be obtained and we will all wake up tomorrow and nothing will have changed. this thread was pretty much going to devolve into pointless /k/ masterbation anyway. have your fun and wake up tomorrow and go about your life.

I understand where you're going with this, but I think a real civil war against Asians in favor of white nationalism would be extremely unlikely, even down the road. There might be much more segregation & whites-only & Asians-only communities, but the great majority of whites are indifferent towards Asians.

A few groups like Indians (both dot and feather) will probably also be ignored. Dots because there aren't many of them and they tend to be professionals, and feathers because they have their reservations.

I'm sanguine about it because there's no difference between all the "little school girls and boys" being fragged by stray rounds versus being neutered, medicated and murdered by the slow gray death of the jew.

Oh, so little Suzie ate an arty round instead of jew and nigger cock? She died instead of squirting out race-mixed abominations? Why would I be upset about this?

Going to curl up in a corner and cry like a little bitch like you accomplishes nothing. The only thing that will save us is fighting spirit, and you have nothing. You're already dead.

Feather indians are our best friends waiting to happen, most people in both groups don't know it yet though.

Come on now, I'm more than half drunk.
I was in the military and and I can tell you serving does nothing to enamor you with bureaucracy.
The foreign mercenary part might be relevant, I could see (((them))) trying it. It would be a tremendous mistake though, nothing else would galvanize the population like foreign invaders. Blue helmets would be fired upon by nationalists of all skin colors.

Oh no I agree it's highly unlikely, but Murphy's Law is a bitch. Prepare for anything, burger friend.

If anything with how white Asians want to be and dot Indian's caste system being based on how light skinned you are, a fair few would side with white nationalists.

IS THAT A KOREAN AND A PANJEET ON A ROOFTOP SHOOTING NIGS SIDE BY SIDE?!

Also about feather indians, has a good point.

Feathers are majorly against illegal beans though, they might start their own race war

Yep, maybe these mercenary groups would go rogue and either attempt to take home valuables from USA or establish a strong independent base of power and attempt recruiting disillusioned citizens who don't relate yet? Depends on how early they arrive though.

UN troops are notorious pussies.

Israelis are especially well known for their 360 degree fields of fire.

Agreed on both, but I'm talking more private firms.

G4S, ASG, ADS, etc.

These fuckers are ruthless and would ramp up big numbers of combat units for the right price.

Especially considering money is no object to (((them))).

We have been Chinese cursed with interesting times.
The one thing that I can agree with on is that I have no retirement plans, I doubt I will survive the happening but I will sell my life dearly. Otherwise I will just work until the day I die.

You're assuming that this is going to be some massive civil war with millions of casualties when that hasn't happened in Western country in how many decades?

Meanwhile, in May of 1968 in Paris, there were uprisings and a general strike so severe that President Charles de Gaulle literally fled the country for a few days. The internal overthrow of most of the Communist countries happened with surprisingly little bloodshed as well, which shocked all of the supposed experts.

It'll be around racial and cultural lines

You do know they've been resorting to hiring beaners, right?

why is that?
is it because you are dumb gay jewish transgender nigger faggot?

Agreed, this would almost be the single biggest mistake the government could make.

If I had a real fear, it would be 20 or so years from now, when individual troops might play a secondary role to drones or even robots.

Indeed we have friend, indeed we have. I can't keep my eyes away from it out of excitement, but I'd be stupid to take my eyes off the ball now.

Best of luck to you burger lads from Britbongland, I've got at most twenty years to prepare for ours and I've already got my spoons fully sharpened, just a few more steps here and there.

I used to think everything you do we did twenty years after was a joke, until third wave feminism started propping up everywhere with a vengeance in 2010

gibs weapons when you're done with them pls yanks I don't do fight well with fully automatic pint glasses

ASD are Arabs, (((they))) get along famously with the Arab when it suits them.

G4S are British too and hire a lot of pakis, wouldn't surprise me if the Eternal Quintessentially British tried to pull a fast one on both you and me.

It was a strategic loss due to a number of factors that aren't the same in the case of the US.

Firstly, there is no geographic or political sanctuary akin to the Pakistani frontier areas. There is no where for you to hide in America apart from the mountains and woods that are already within the state. Canada will most likely fight you, and Mexicans are a couple of payments from beheading the gringo. Cuba won't, because you are rightists. There is absolutely no where that is safe for training, recuperation, re-supply, etc.

Secondly, there is no holistic will or ideology keeping them together akin to the tribes, networks, and groups operating in Afghanistan. They had a common enemy: the Western invaders. The American right would not. In fact, we cannot even agree on simple things. The best case you can make of some common thing that ties them together be for some fag-tier cuckservative "muh revolutionaries" ideology that supports Jews and their vision of 'merica, which means you'd be back to square one.

Thirdly, the media had a big play in the moral level in Afghanistan and elsewhere. Whose side do you think they'll be on? Who controls the media and social media on the internet? You don't. "B-b-b-but, we are guerrillas, we'll take down the electrical infrastructure. Then no media." No, you haven't thought this through. What happens when you take down the power? The military have studied this sort of thing. It has higher effects. Hospitals go down. Sewage treatment go down. It effects supply lines for those generators everyone will run on in the interim. It effects cooking. Somewhere down the line this all effects health and disease within the population, which includes yourself. Congrats, you are now responsible for a potential epidemic.

You are also again ignoring what the entire American intelligence and military community have learned in the last 15 years at a tactical and operational level: manhunts, counter-insurgency, and mass surveillance. They have organizational knowledge, doctrinal knowledge, and a bunch of other structural aspects that allow them to spread this knowledge. None of you, not even the red team /k/ larpers, have an argument against this that doesn't make reference to some larpy crap or some 11b stupidity about muh guns.

They know how to hunt you, they know how to nominally win over a population (a population where large amounts already are under the spell of leftists, jews, and globalists. Again, your analogy to Afghanistan doesn't hold, because the elites and political infrastructure at home are different), they potentially already have the target databases.

Absolutely none of you have a strategy or plan to deal with this apart from some assumptions about muh defections that in the end amount to hope, which is incredibly dangerous and mounts to either arrogance or actual shilling.

Again, a completely unbacked up assumption that flies in the face of history.

We know from history itself that the American military does what its masters tell them to do. It did the bidding of the Jew in Iraq. It did the bidding of leftists with responsibility to protect in Libya. If a bunch of American insurgents get made out as Nazis, or far right, they will fight you.

It's up to you, and others like you, to make the argument that they won't. So far, every time this thread comes up everyone asserts that they'll defect, no one justifies it while ignoring the best predictor for future military behavior: the immediate past.

A PR process that has to be disseminated through comms. Either media, social media, or otherwise. Who controls the internet and the media? You? Or the vast bureaucracy that often refers to the Internet as a domain of war?

The Bundy militia couldn't organize logistics for food. They had to put out a call for snacks. They couldn't organize convoy security, and got shot. They couldn't hold a siege. That's just one example.

These people have proven to me that they lack the necessary forethought or planning for such a war, and that the government will smash them.

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This is the same Putin who constantly talks out against the far right and who fought against far rightists in Ukraine.

Also, this again shows more lack of military geographic knowledge among the larpers here. You do realize that the gulf and caribbean is one of the most heavily patrolled areas with the US military, DEA, puddle pirates, and others having massive knowledge of how to interdict boats/planes and others in the area? They've been interdicting and patrolling in the area for decades. They know the sea better than you. They know all the tricks. The Russians meanwhile have a line of communication spreading thousands of miles trying to get through an enemy that knows the terrain and has experience with every sort of ship/plane/submersible in the area.

Good luck getting in Russia sealift through maritime chokepoints off Florida and the Caribbean islands with a country that knows the terrain and methods better than you.

See what is happening here. It's teleologically going to happen. No need to plan or counter-plan. It's going to happen.

Ask yourself other anons, who is the real shill here?

The people that have these buried assumptions they don't back up, make grandiose claims about what is going to happen, and call anyone who disagrees with their non-plan fantasy a shill? Or anons poking holes in their assumptions?

Yeah, he thinks FEMA is going to fill those coffins with the help of UN troops. Standard demoralization "gubmint is gonna win no matter what" shilling.

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>wanting a revolution in 2 based countries

dammit I can't green text today

All of the "big bad spooky government" plays require functioning logistics.

The catalyst for the upcoming events is going to be a complete breakdown of the global supply chain. Agencies will be scrambling to get spare parts and batteries, let alone pay their employees. The rioting dindus are OUR shock troops, not the jews'. Shutting down Boston sure was easy with a compliant populace. You think things will go just as smoothly when people can't feed their kids?

The entire situation is going to take place within a failed state, and you don't grasp that because you're a fucking demoralization shill.

Enjoy your just-in-time economy while it lasts, retard.

Was this on this weeks SA Digest 'increase your word power' column?

Kike/feminist/shitskin shill detected.

Does anyone have the second pic on tomorrow theme? I don't like my eyes to bleed.

Pic related, my captcha;
wooohu

Notice how stupid some of his comments are, like

When absolutely nobody said that. He's simply talking to himself and thinking he's smart. Of course we not only want to keep power up, but we would want as much internet access as possible.

His views are not only poorly thought through, but they sound like he's talking from a playbook circa 1995.

Nobody knows what the future will bring, and a scenario could play out very badly. However, his arguments don't hold much weight.

Let me go point by point over how fucking wrong you are about basically everything.

Mexico is a failed state. They aren't attacking or invading anyone. They have their own problems.

Canada is an underpopulated mess with major metros that will also be on fire in the event of a global supply chain breakdown.

The gulf and caribbean are so heavily patrolled that countless tons of cocaine are instantly interdicted and none ever makes it to USA shores, right?

You think Texans haven't made contact with Russia? Putin wouldn't have announced it, and Texas wouldn't be busily PUBLICLY taking back all their gold if they weren't making a statement.

The Bundy militia was unsupported during their second misadventure because it was a stupid fucking idea that was caused by a government snitch. The first one went off without a hitch.

yet here you are, failing at shilling on Holla Forums.

Holla Forums has roots and branches throughout the entire internet, that's why hundreds of millions of dollars have been spent against us, and you've failed spectacularly every time. We've subverted a multi-billion dollar industry, and we're winning, we're continuing to win and we'll win so hard that we'll get sick of winning, but we'll keep winning because it's all we'll know how to do.

It wasn't just units, it was entire STATES that defected. See: Civil War.

You know, for all the "anti-insurgent" tactics, goatfuckers still won a strategic victory, and the next fight will be against millions of literate, technically savvy, heavily armed and incredibly pissed off Americans who are responsible for the very functioning of the American war machine.

God you're a dumb motherfucker.

He's just doing his job, but I'm posting to educate the teenagers. A lot of users here will be seeing these arguments for the first time.

Fucking newfags, man.

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This map is retarded

Agreed. Ohio, Indiana, KY, PA, WV, TN and VA I imagine would be able to exist as their own state. A lot of major highways go into Columbus and a lot of companies have HQ's in Columbus. Ohio is still red enough, with plenty of guns, to rid Cleveland, Columbus, Cinci and Toledo of its relatively small nigger population. Or at least, enough so to keep them segregated and in check.

VA would grant us access to ports. But I dont see why we couldn't join the Southern States. I see no reason to exclude TX either.

What liberals don't understand is that the majority of the men in the military are from the southern USA. The southern USA is our nations warrior class. Any union with them guarantee's defended borders. We could take back Texas from the spics along with AZ, NM and southern CA CA has tons of beautiful land that I'd want to procure. There is no reason, in a civil war, to allow spics and/or liberals and jews to possess it

That's got me chuckling tbh kek.

By your own argument, this would effect the very things you think will help you win. Including Russian support, and your own war economy. So, really, you are undermining your own claims here.

I don't think you've thought this argument through.

Suppose you have a global event happen. Therefore it effects local groups like government. It should also effect you also. So you have two comparative entities: government war economy and guerrilla war economy. Since war economies of groups include logistics, it will effect logistics.

Who in this case do you think can outlast the other? The government war economy, who has most likely planned for this, has the supplies. Or the rag-tag jackasses that ask for snacks, assume support in the face of current jewry, and think hope is a strategy?

In such a scenario you also won't be fighting the government. You'll also be fighting armed organized gangs like blacks and mexicans. They suck at fighting, but they are good at the very thing you've just identified as a weakness: logistics. They are good at sneaking in contraband, have networks for this effect, and know how to combine both logistics and operational stealth.

That's a comparative advantage you don't have, and none of your red team larpers have thought about.

Also, this breakdown in the global supply chain is not really explained well. Since the models of risk management in global supply chains is mostly due to two factors – security of major ports/civilian airlift supply and financial contagion – it would imply multiple events across the globe, yet your mechanism for this is not really explained (more assertions again). So I'm at a loss as to how this is supposed to happen. Please also factor in the gov and military research on robust supply chains, adaptable supply chains, and decentralized multi-echelon supply chains. I'm sure you're real familiar with these, lol, and can explain how your apocalyptic event gets around these gov planning and logistic ops.

Again, this is the argument most of the actual shills in this thread are making: "MUH TELEOLOGY. It's going to happen guys!"

I'm 90% sure you'll die within a year.

Remember sequestration? I do, at least I had Navy Fed. The military is 2 weeks from mutiny, that shit doesn't run without beer and whiskey from the E-club.

No, I'm factoring in things you dipshits didn't factor in.

He made a historical analogy. I showed historical dis-analogues. That's how thinking works. Read a book like Thinking in Time.

I also raised potential counter-arguments, as I know what you retards are like. It's got nothing to do with smartness. It's basic rhetoric (refutatio), something you guys also claim to be good at, but actually suck at.

You are going to get people killed with your arrogance.

Not an argument.

Not an argument.

Great post.

To be honest, I think the most important thing is not to get sucked into his frame.

Even though the thread is titled Civil War, imho we should not be thinking of the American civil war and some protracted war of attrition lasting years. That's not what's going to happen.

The moment he starts talking about rebels hiding in the woods, he's playing out some type of Red Dawn fantasy shit. Nobody should get pulled into that.

Earlier examples given were the overthrow of Communism in multiple nations, France in 1968, and we could possibly add to that things like the Bolshevik or October revolution, which was mostly bloodless because the Czarist government was so widely disliked.

It's going to be more like Czechoslovakia in 1968 than France.

Get on my level, user.

lol.

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Would be the absolute most powerful section. If they joined forces they'd be unstoppable. Absorb left coast so we have complete unobstructed access to both coasts and full control of the great lakes would make it a stronger nation than America currently is. Oh, and "Weimarica" is completely self sustaining.

Notice that you said nothing of substance in response to my claim. I pointed out your phony dialogue, where people would kill power to stop the media, and noted that nobody would fucking do that.

Your arguing with bullshit strawmen.

Everyone reading this, don't get pulled into this shit.

The moment you accept some type of outright warfare scenario, then you are pulled into his frame.

The United States government could not garner popular support for a war against Iran, no matter how badly Israel wanted it to. Nor one against Syria.

The whole system of control is breaking down. There would be zero popular support - zero! - for a war against Texas if they decided to secede. Everyone will wish them well and most will be hoping for their state to be next.

He's using the classic jewish tactic of trying to create an either/or argument on his own terms. It's all refutable, but it just takes time because all his assumptions are wrong so I have to reframe EVERYTHING and it gets exhausting.

When the financial system breaks, there's no ctrl+p to fix it this time. The ctrl+p keys were taped down 8 years ago and have been going strong ever since.

I am going to be so glad when the kikes are finally killed. I never signed up to fight some absurd information war, but here I am, shitposting for our freedoms.

I just wanted to play videogames

We'll have to wait and see for this claim. This shit has been in the works for decades now. Once you're mobilized, there's no going back.

You are proving my point for me.

You'll have no shelter there.

It's an unsupported "hope strategy" that relies on some conjunction fallacy (multiple events happening). Also, again, that ignores robust supply chains, adaptable supply chains, and decentralized multi-echelon supply chains have in play.

It's a different analogy. You are comparing adaptive drug networks that have adapted over years, to a state entity that hasn't competed in said area, and – that by your own argument – is effected by this apparently supply chain breakdown. Make up your mind dude.

What are you saying here exactly? That the global intelligence community has to rely on public declarations for operational signatures? You couldn't be more naive about how intelligence works.

Muh snitches. Muh shills. This mindset is going to be real interesting when you guys fight a war. It's a potential weakness that is ripe for exploitation. All the government has to do is make the next competent Hitler out to be a shill, and you'll kill him due to everyone's motivations. Will be hilarious.

It's also, in a way, an argument for my position as well: how easily these groups are infiltrated, if indeed they are shills. Goes to show the opsec of militias and others, which again, is more argument that you guys will get obliterated.

Memes aren't winning. Winning is policy change and power. You have neither.

Cool, still not an argument about the current state of affairs though is it? Please explain the psychological mechanism that differs from the military and populace supporting Jew and lefts wars in the last 15 years, and the alleged war that is going to happen?

Please explain how the ideology that is occuring now, won't still be happening in the minds of others when society allegedly collapses? You basically have a large number of people who, upon collapse, will fight you, just for you being yourselves.

With a number of dis-analogies that aren't the same.

You are super mad that someone is critiquing your plans, lol. This is hilarious. You guys are going to lose if this is who is going to lead your wars at a local level.

Not an argument. You've not justified how it lacks substance.

False. I showed what the reasoning process was. I showed he made an analogy. I showed a disanalogy. This is basic informal logic, something you fail to grasp. I then raised a possible counter-point before it could be made, which is common way of arguing.

You didn't provide an argument in the first place.

Asserting a fallacy is not an argument either. Unless you care to point out the exact strawman, then explain how it is a strawman. I bet you can't.

He made an argument about Russian support. Then he made an argument about global supply chain shock. That means it would effect his own original argument. How you can ignore this is bamboozling to me and shows your irrationality. Now, quote a fallacy at me again, like the redditor that you are.

Foreign policy support is not the same as comparative analysis of war economies. Learn to military analysis.

lol, ok, if you don't want to engage with my posts in an honest way, I guess I'll leave the thread to you shills.

Reminder that guys that don't want their perfect plans critiqued are either shills or low-IQ dipshits that will get you killed.

I'd say it's less likely now than it has been in years. More people are getting their information from the internet rather than TV and MSM every day, and they see the Hannity arguments about Iran

is bullshit.

Things are changing, and in our favor. The only thing that has probably gotten worse over the years is hatred of Muslims, but as more people learn the difference between Sunni and Shia, and that Iran, along with allies Russia and Syria and Hezbollah, are actually the ones who are fighting and winning against the Sunni terrorist scum, they wake up to the madness of American foreign policy.

nato.int/docu/Review/2015/Russia/sanctions-after-crimea-have-they-worked/EN/

Russia doesn't need the global economy, retard.

Even NATO can't come up with anything more than "see! we hurt the economy a bit!"

Meanwhile the petrodollar is dying.

Your argument that was "b-b-b-but 200 years ago m-m-m-muh current year"

If you expect me to seriously argue against "IT'S 2016, COME ON GUYS" then you are dumber than I anticipated.

Nor would I need to, as it was not even addressed. You don't have to justify an observation apparent to everyone.

Let me explain what a straw man argument is.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

You created a phony argument and responded to it.

It has, true, but Gen Clarke. said 7 countries since 2006 right? It'd take them five years? Forgive me for saying it's 2016 and the CURRENT YEAR but a decade and all these countries aren't completely finished, I'm slightly skeptical this plan is still in motion.

And not to mention they're struggling to get public support for Syria. Putin is helping Syria and it's great for Russia's PR, Sudan's only fucked up in the south with the famine and Iran's still alright I think.

Throw in Trump wanting to work with Russia to help Assad and remove ISIS kebab and maybe Syria is where it all goes in reverse?

Being hopeful, probably a mistake

Not to mention the recent leaks from Turkey and how hard Kurds are fighting, your average normie now knows Turkroach isn't just a slur but is in fact, the truth.

Something funny about the chosen ones being descended from Turks and how they both act EXACTLY the same

Quebec has independent supply chains (muh pepsi) and tons of Eurotrash with money arriving everyday to escape the shitskins. Just hide your power level or you will end up like Dieudonne.

If this is true, and it probably is, then we are at meta levels of the human experience. This method would work well with counter revolution, but what then? When it's revealed just how many people are infiltrators in this scenario, there's no going back and our country will descend into schizophrenic paranoia. You wouldn't be able to trust your neighbor, let alone anyone in a leadership position. Likewise, someone in a leadership position couldn't trust anyone outside of their verified clique, even then who knows?

So yes, militias would be blown the fuck out and there will be no armed revolution in the short term, but is everyone really prepared for this kind of culture and what it would take for everyone to stay good goy serfs?

You're a bored postdoc, aren't you?

Lost your funding, huh?

You don't openly accuse someone in a nonymous arena of shilling.

You form a Committee of Public Safety or a Directory and set up the ISIS machine.

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The 2016 argument is a normative argument about something today that should be changed or not.

You are making historical military analogies between today's states of affairs and states of affairs in the past without factoring in the disanalogues that matter to winning.

This "it's 2016" counter is meme-tier faggotry.

False, your larping and lack of military experience is showing again.

A usual counter to claims about information dominance is to take out the infrastructure that allows information dominance. So the counter to dominance of the media and internet, is to control it or destroy it. One way to do this is to attack the electrical inftrastructure, which is a common tactic in strategic air bombing and infrastructure interdiction.

Raising this point is not a strawman, it's raising one of the potential counters that others who might know about it might assert it.

I'd suggest you sit this thread out, since you lack any ounce of reasoning ability, or knowledge about military matters.

Not only Turkey, but Saudi Arabia and even Israel are being exposed more and more every day.

Things aren't even where they were 4 years ago. I think a lot of people were shocked at how much control the media has lost between election cycles.

It's absolutely glorious. The 9/11 papers alone are the last nail in the Israel coffin.

YOU CAN'T SHUT DOWN WHAT YOU NO LONGER CONTROL

It was an argument advanced by nobody, and the fact that you are claiming we would make that argument while posting on a board like 8ch shows how shitty your understanding of our position is.

Stay dated.

This is what I was alluding to. The 21st century won't be a century of countries fighting but rather alphabet soup agencies. When everyone is a potential threat to national security, you need all the intelligence gathering you can get.

What fucking study. Where is the sauce on this? I need this sauce!

Missing the point of refutatio and counter-planning again.

Again, the latter is going to get people killed.

You are right, it shows most anons here (apart from a couple above also arguing with you dumbasses) have no clue about what they are talking about, since such a counter is well known within military circles.

Good luck with your larp-war.

Forgot your sage, completely negates anything you just typed.

Do you enjoy making phony arguments that nobody advanced because you can't understand the position of the people here?

No, you're the one who has no clue what you're talking about. You think you're the smart one because you figured out that

Congratulations. I look forward to your similar movie reviews of Star Wars and Terminator.

"This time it's different": The Post

Defection hasn't changed.
Intelligence hasn't changed.
Counter-intelligence hasn't changed.
Warfare hasn't changed.
Human nature hasn't changed in 2000 years, much less 200.
The only things that have changed are the tools, and even then they haven't changed much.

cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publications/books-and-monographs/the-founding-fathers-of-american-intelligence/art-1.html

liveleak.com/view?i=0bd_1249524865

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_operations_in_the_American_Revolutionary_War

cia.gov/library/publications/intelligence-history/civil-war/Intel_in_the_CW1.pdf

Kill yourself, Current Year faggot.

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lel

kill yourself

Red bit looks like a beat up pussy.

He takes the sage off when he thinks he's "winning"

Except ethno-nationalism is shill proof. Kill the kikes and the rest follows.

I came up with a new scenario for eb020e to argue against.

He's going to see right through this, and know those rebels are at a distinct disadvantage.

When it comes to military analysis, he's tops!

I'm still laughing at how "mexican special forces" are going to come invade the country and kill american citizens.

Yes. Empires still last an average of 250 years.

Reading through this thread is pretty funny seeing as ya'll got your fucking asses blasted and all you can come up with is "strawman" and "hurr special beaner forces" and to top it off is the constant "shill" cherry on top.

Fuck me. You're all either REALLY fucking new to Holla Forums, retarded, or hopelessly pathetic. Even if he was a shill he poked holes the size of Texas in your faggy little ideas.

lol

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yea d00d that's tots it XDDDDDD.
I'm from tel aviv and reporting to central command(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

You're not from Tel Aviv.
you're from Jerusalem

faggot.

tell me, how new are you? really dying to know what day Holla Forums went to complete shit

It's (8) now, faggot.

Sure looks like it to me.

oh holleeeee fuk.

the >(2) was in reference to my postnumber not yours.

I think you're just retarded. I think anyone reading through this thread will see that as well. Have a shitty weekend and please fucking kill yourself.

I lived on a ranch Mom remarried, snagged a Rancher for #4 for several years.

Every year we would have to rush the irrigation, which was to flood the fields one or two at a time, because the fuckers upstream would literally suck at the water outta the L.Snake.

I'm talking by early July till the beginning of august the river bed would be exposed except for a few puddles. This is also when I learned that the river still flows, just very slowly, through the sandy bottom.

So yeah the SW is completely fucked if the ranchers/people wish to royally fuck them over.

At least the rancher's would not have to worry about hay for the animals for a few years.

kek

a lot of you that may think about resisting if the time comes, just know that your neighbors will kill you if you threaten their survival by shooting at the same government forces who may set up food distribution points. they will not care about philosophical causes, it will be about survival and survival only. camps have been set up? better go if i want to get fed. also good luck even moving around in a suburban/urban environment? im sure none of you have ever tried to make it across your neighborhood at 2 am by creeping through dark backyards. their are all kinds of fences and obstacles that will exhaust the fuck out of you. and during a heightened situation there will be plenty of people that are not sleeping peacefully or watching tv on their couches during the night. you think you are going to carry out an assassination campaign on hvt's instead? after a few begin getting wacked, they will go figuratively underground and have security out the ass. you will be stuck sniping spastics standing guard at security checkpoints and shit.

if you want to have any chance at purging the government of criminals you need a single polarizing event. bundy ranch was a real good chance and of course the feds backed down because they knew it. waiting for economic collapse where blame will be shifted will not bode well in gaining you support. if it goes hot, you have to strike extremely hard and fast with almost no regard for your own survival if you even want to get a resistance off the ground.

i truly do hope that more people are aware than i think and are simply just stuck in apathy wondering if everybody else but them is braindead. but i really doubt it because more happenings would have occurred by now if that was the case. it will never just one day be team liberty vs team government and most people will only find that out when they are either abandoned by the same government they worship or the gates shut on that labor camp they are never getting out of.

so, the most awake people will die first. some from their own neighbors hands, whether is dialing to report them ala see something say something or armed bluepilled individuals who will see your resistance as a threat to their survival.

My plan is to get eggs from my backyard chickens and milk my goats, then sit on my porch and laugh while the world burns.

Again, none of you faggots in this thread understand the rural/urban divide and why all the shilling in here is fucking hilarious.

You think we're gonna go run up to an MRAP with an axe or something? Fuck no.

I'm going to be comfy as fuck while the cities burn, and I'll have evac'd my relatives weeks beforehand.

Stupid fucking city slickers.

A civil war will not happen, not even if Trump gets kiked out of the nom or some equivalent shit. QoL is going to have to get worse before any form of revolt happens.

Regardless of politics, the global crash is incoming, and cities are going to be complete pits. Massive riots and disturbances, crime, etc.

There's not going to be any kind of toe-to-toe civil war, but it's funny how fucking petrified the shills are that any anons here would consider it.

they will come for you. and it will be after your preps have run out and you have resorted to trying to raid back into the overtly zog controlled total surveillance cities for supplies. and if you are the less than 1% that is self-sufficient, as long as they control the propaganda, drones will be flying over the countryside looking for anybody who did not conform. you may survive an extra couple years but you will have done fuck all to ensure the survival of ideologies and your people. but im not surprised, most "preppers" just have an apocalypse fantasy and want the lights to go out so they can "watch while the world burns".

hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

holy christ can you be any more obvious?

THE BLACK HELICOPTERS ARE GONNA COME AND I'M IN MY PJs! OH LAWDY.

JUST BE AFRAID GOYIM.

Boy, nobody is coming to my neck of the woods, they couldn't even place it on a map. Yet here you are, trying to demoralize and fear monger. Pathetic.

"BIG DADDY GUBMINT IS GONNA CONTROL ERRYTHING"

Nigger, the government can't stop a handful of shitposters from making a mockery of a multi billion dollar media industry, how are they going to come kidnap some random hick in the middle of the night?

What is it about this topic that has you shills so fucking scared?

I mean besides the obvious that the government would lose so hard it'd be laughable.

Whose shoe did you scrape this shitstain off of?

im glad you are demoralized and scared. people will do what it takes to survive and all those "city-slickers" will be manning stations at government industrial poultry manufacturing plants doing slave labor. what do you think is going to happen? you dont think this has planned for centuries? i wish you luck just surviving and shit. thats what the goyim have been doing forever and why we even have to talk about this shit.

World War III is pretty much inevitable at this point. Europe is going to collapse, the Middle East is ready to go up in flames, Pakistan and India are on the list of "most likely to nuke each other into ashes". China's economy is going to shit, so they aren't going to have anything to lose by trying to take over large portions of the world. Same with Russia.

Hillary wins and the U.S. enters war, we get curb stomped all over the globe with likely balkanization of the U.S.

Bernie wins and the U.S. doesn't even enter the war but surrenders outright to pay for our "crimes". Same outcome, straight up secession of many states, only with U.N. troops on U.S. soil.

Trump wins and its on like Donkey Kong. Here the balkanization will be the liberals/SJW's trying to secede, turning the cities into shit holes of Mayday style riots. Unless we are directly attacked Trump will likely keep the U.S. neutral, with specialized death squads being sent out against any terrorist threats.

Really? This is some weak shit, are you the JV squad?

Keep up m8

But I do like your plan, sounds mega /comfy/

You think Trump will deploy RWDS?

THE CIVIC NATIONALIST?

*Western Europe
Eastern Europe still has working generations that went through the change to capitalism. People still know how to handle food/oil/whatever shortages.

Shitty argument, it was the same in Yugoslavia and yet there was a civil war.

It's an American tradition. When the call for the militia comes, be ready, and know what to do. In the meantime, get /comfy/.

Is it just me or are they REALLY losing their shit over this thread?

dubya dubya three would require logistics chains. half the world is going to need to rebuild their logistics first, and they'll be putting out fires. I think we're heading to riots, civil wars, increased criminality and other bad shit that you can survive just fine as long as you have a bit of land and a decent trigger finger. Actual takeover of government will happen after the government overreacts and militias get causus belli

ok but first you were talking about sitting on your porch while the world burns. do we get the call after the fire burns out? im not going to call you a shill. you just cant follow a logical progression.

and now you're back to saging after getting BTFO.

wew.

Just kill yourself, kike.

No doubt about it. Surgical removal of identified threats, all low key and under the radar.
That's what my gut tells me. "Sicaro" style handling of "problems" affecting the U.S.
He's already made it clear that ISIS is on "locate, close with, and annihilate" list. Go in, stomp them into myth, then get out. No nation building, no Halliburton subsidized shit fests like Afghanistan and Iraq.

European Union is what I'm thinking will collapse. Russia will be the biggest threat for Eastern Europe, but there's likely going to be people/groups looking to carve out their own territories.
Just look at Syria with the rebel groups that sprung up out of nowhere. If chaos is possible, its going to happen.

hmmmm yes now i see who in fact the shills are in this thread

In the U.S. white people don't really riot. We just take care of shit. You don't see a bunch of White/semi-White people burning down their own neighborhoods because they are upset.
Even if the U.S. balkanizes it will likely not be like Serbia/Croatia. More like "Occupy Wallstreet" in the cities and the rest of the country organizing their shit to keep families fed and safe.

ok, so on a scale of 1 to "so assblasted he bought the hemherroid cream company" how butthurt are you right now?

Were you triggered. Did it strike you as problematic?

If Hillary, won't matter. Country's gone.
If Bernie, won't matter. Country's gone.
If Trump, won't matter. FEMA camps, while America is Made Great Again.

Riots only matter if your dumb enough to live in an infested city, which for any actual Holla Forumsack is highly doubtful.

So the take away message is that shills get incredibly butt blasted when you think the government isn't an all-powerful entity that can read your mind and send black helicopters to kidnap you in the middle of the night.

I've seen the government, and they're pasty, fat, middle-aged cubicle drones. I'm not worried in the slightest.

not as assblasted as yourself who seems to have swapped ips in this thread to support another poster using the same language

I just checked your posts in this thread and "you" left earlier then the same user appears shortly after that makes his "first"appearance where he says keep going to a poster using ur other id

as if he was involved in thread already

Both of you piled on others here as using socks

Thats quite the coinky dink

top wew

Please explain the near exact word similarity i posted above and the timeline where your second id appears after your "break" in a response to a post you made

youre such an idiot. break down with points how the original post you responded to was shilling. the one where you responded how rural and shit you are. id cut your fucking head off.

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Hillary is being sabotaged by her own campaign.

It is beautiful to watch.

He is an actual shill.

His other sock is id fdb5d3 check out my posts above

What if I can't afford to move out?

Serious question, Holla Forumsack. I'm scared.

There are heaps of Fruit picking Jobs that offer free board.

I stayed rent free in japan by picking fruit on a farm

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How would I find those jobs? Don't mean to keep bugging you, but jewgle isn't turning up anything.

I dunno if he's extreme enough, but maybe in his second term.

If he gets there that is, auditing the Federal Reserve gets you a nice ride in a convertible through Dallas so you can die of 'natural causes'

God I love it when people sperg out in politics.

You have to remember a lot of farmers still don't advertising jobs, you literally have to walk up to them and ask.

Expand your search to include Farm-hand jobs and Rancher jobs.

Also you'll need to learn the Ancient art of Haggling and negotiation.

When i was in japan it was just before June so that was peach picking season. Seasonal crops are another thing you'll have to understand. When things are harvested etc etc.

Hope that kind of helps

If you had entered the thread more constructively, and simply pointed out basis stuff like a protracted war of some rebel force against the government would almost certainly mean a loss, then sure.

You never understood that this was a thread primarily about political change, escalating group vs group conflict, a majority population awakening to their manipulation, and the erosion of moral authority of a government with an attempt at understanding how all of those factors might play out, rather than a military analysis of how likely a group would be to take over the United States government or overthrow it.

FEMA coffins?

my.mixtape.moe/jwnhdj.mp3
Relevant

They never intended to understand the thread, they're just here to shill.

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Switched IDs huh?

wow this was slid

Sure it was.

All the way down to page 19, yep yep

I'll bump. Its too late and I'm too tired, but I'll post my thoughts tomorrow.

Damn, the shill really got rustled by this thread, didn't they.

yuup

any time you imply the govt has chinks in its armor they get extremely rustled

also:

They're going to keep trying to slide this.

BUMP FOR THE LOVE OF KEK

'wahhh dont use big words' the post

bump

1 in 4 Americans want their state to secede from the US

blogs.reuters.com/jamesrgaines/2014/09/19/one-in-four-americans-want-their-state-to-secede-from-the-u-s-but-why/

Except The Free State of Jefferson

final bump

What's gonna happen to all the nukes if a civil war happens? The kikes would probably nuke whatever state secedes if they start to lose. I wouldn't care if they did. I'd rather the whole world go up in flames than jews win. We would make a funeral pyre out of America for the white race.

Holy shit a post that isn't. WE'RE GONNA SHOOT TWICE AND BE HOME FER DINNER AT MCDONALDS BOYZZZWEEEEE. It's discouraging how impractical and retarded some of these guys can get.

Most of the nukes are in disrepair.

It'll be fun when local warlords get their hands on minutemen though. If I ever had the chance I'd launch them right to Tel-Aviv.

When it happens, and it ill happen, it will start as skirmishes and riots with various groups trying to establish control. First at neighborhood level, then cities, then counties, then finally full states and regions.

I fully agree that the conflict will eventually turn fully racial. Some time after the word gets out about how nogs in Atlanta and other heavily nog cities slaughtered and raped tons of whites, and some time before states start shoring up control again. Ethnostates will be an inevitability.

People like to think of themselves as past racial bias, enlightened, etc. But when it comes to naked force, the vast majority of people will fight for their own.

Just like prison.

Prison is society at it's tribal level, and if you don't defend people of your race?

Good luck surviving.

One point though, with the racial tensions boiling up in Burgerland, I don't think it'll be a slow burn m8

I agree. I expect full-blown chimpouts. Cat 3-4 all summer, and a 4.5 once Trump wins the presidency. This could be the year when white people, sheltered for the past 75 years, see the true nature of the black.

KEK, LET IT BE SO!