Why Sexuality is Fucked: The Fall of the Original Male and the Rise of the Cucked Betas

Hello dear Holla Forums - I hope you find yourselves having a good day. You might remember an user a while ago that posted about his porn addiction and wrote a short text on why porn was probably the cause that males are so cucked in recent years. At the time a lot of that came from reading past the NoFap's movement loads of anecdotal evidence and bro-science and examining some of its valid points. But alas, I was not satisfied.

There was something there. Something that wanted to be found.

I've gone off and done actual research - anonymous interviews recruiting around boards, lots of books on the field of Sexology (back when Psychology was real and before the field became fetishistic bullshit and tranny justifications, so some odd forty years ago) and other heaps of bullshit, trying to sort the delusional from the actual knowledge from outright kike lies.

This is going to be quite long - I'll examine the crux of the issue first, then go off and examine several rising fetishes and the dangers of several kinds of thinking, concluding with suggestions of how you - yes, you - should behave to create the new male, the one that should rise from this swamp of leftist crap. By no means is this a defeatist or MGTOW-supporting text - I think this issue should be fixed, but it starts with you.

If you have any of the issues described in this essay, please seek to improve yourself. Realize it isn't natural to you, and seek to stop them.

Here we go.

The Modern Times, the Downfall of Masculine Thinking and Autogynephilia

First of all, let us examine the recent events on the world that have changed how the modern human views sexuality. Not only have family values gone down - rather, I'd say, fucking plummeted - but the rise of fast-access Internet Porn, filled with all kinds of imagery, have also corrupted the youth's natural sexual development. With sex viewed as just a way of release and said pornography widely available, the modern teenager - and many of you, I'm sure - was quick to hop in the internet porn bandwagon, also in an era where sex became more acceptable to talk about in public and media.

Now, many of you could confirm and well, common sense also shows that the first fantasies of the human male, and the types of video he watches, are usually simple, heterosexual videos of a man and a woman, or a man and several women, with intercourse being dominated by the male. Many even quickly go to fetishes such as forced intercourse, with domination by their part being the crux of the original, male fetish. This is in accordance with natural male sexual thought - not that we want to just go off and rape people, but rather, that we seek our own pleasure, the usage of our genital organs on women we find attractive to find release.

Now, my interviews had a disturbing common point at about this stage - as humans are humans and excess is the key to change, many of them lost interest and switched to other forms of pornography. The thing that disturbed me is that almost all of them - a staggering 80% of a control group of quite a few dozen - switched to lesbian porn. Porn of a woman, with another woman.

Now - many of you will argue that's natural. A heterosexual male does not want to see penises, and before, many males simply got off to pictures of nude women on magazines. But to explain why this is actually harmful, I have to get into autogynephilia. (Don't worry, this eventually comes around and explains all forms of porn are kinda awful for the brain. Not defending dicks > tits here)

Autogynephilia was a concept introduced in sexology that was quickly shot down as "transphobic" since it implied men who have a desire to be women developed this delusion as part of this issue, rather than being born trannies as lefties imply. That the establishment - or the kike, if your prefer - denied this so readily is no fucking coincidence. Because here lies the crux of the issue.

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Autogynephilia describes a mental issue where the man is physically aroused by the thought of projecting himself as the woman during sex - and this has SKYROCKETED in recent years. And the very core of this problem is a brain mismatch over pleasure - instead of associating his penis - and the act of inserting said penis into a woman - with pleasure, the man instead associates parts of the female body with pleasure. While this may seem normal, this means that the man associates sexy and getting off not with his male ejaculation, but with the release and moans of the female.

This is where we come back to lesbian porn. There is no male - at all - for the man to project himself into. Unlike magazine pictures - where the fantasy came from imagining you, yourself, fucking that hot woman - there's nowhere for the man to project himself. Watching two women have sex is just that - you're getting off to that, because your natural male brain finds the female parts arousing, but in the background, you're learning - molding your brain - to associating their moans and releases with pleasure, instead of your own.

Now we take a short detour - into the culture of sex in media at the time.

Before, it was unnaceptable to even mention the sexual on TV or media, but with feminism and the sexual revolution, it was suddenly fucking ok to talk about dick sizes on modern television. With this bullshit, started the concerns that "women were sexually frustrated" (there's little evidence for this bullcrap, except if you were an abusive husband) and also the fucking fetishization of the length of the male penis. I won't argue this has no effect on sexual performance, but the average female vagina only goes in for five or six inches, about the average male penis. Their main center of pleasure requires no length to reach, and the famed G-spot is about three inches in, a bit curve upwards - so this was mostly rumours, a new way for women to belittle males in their newfound would-be "sexual superiority", where they now controlled the terms of engagemen. Men became obsessed whether they were good enough - and in my opinion that stress, that constant newfound concern if they could please the woman up to these absurd standards, coupled with the fetish slope described above, adapted many minds to seek fetishes in which their participation or performance was not as important to non-existent - from seemingly innocent shit like simply being dominated by a woman to gay sex and even cuckold porn.

Of 20 guys interviewed who said their main fetish was crossdressing/trapping themselves, one of them taking female hormones, ALL twenty confirmed the slope in porn seen above, from straight porn to rape to lesbian to transexual porn and so forth.

Because they derive their pleasure from more female sources which they've been associating it with - be it replacing the woman during sex, taking the submissive role or even seeing another guy with women, something that could start from even normal, heterosexual pornography - this form of getting off, coupled with the natural dopamine rush of an act considered tabboo in their minds, causes many men to swerve to this side of the curve.

"But it's just fetishes, I don't act out on them on real life."

But they're still acting on you, and even then, there's no guarantee it stays that way forever. All four fucking trannies I managed to interview, plus one who had started hormone treatment, said that they didn't identify as female before going very deep into a crossdressing/"sissy" (as they call forced feminization fetishes) fetish before making the decision. This is actually such an issue in the tranny community they often have FAQs on the issue and several sites discuss where to draw the line between fetishism and the "real thing". (Even though I'd argue one's just a harsher form of the other, really)

In short: The pornography slippery slope causes you to take a dark path, autogynphilia developing to some degree whether your new fetish is getting raped by monster girls or being a trap, you should know that shit is NOT natural. It is the fault of porn and our current, warped sexual culture.

A brief anecdote on several fetishes

In this section I'll simply go through several of the fetishes described above and describe their psychological origin. This should explain their prevalence in recent years - and perhaps in your life, too.

One might ask the point of this. The point of it is to TERRIFY you. If I have to scare you into realizing you have a fucking problem, I'll go through patterns you'll find familiar until you are very much scared.

BDSM/Subjugation/Dominance by woman - As said, most of this comes from man's recent self-esteem problems on whether or not he can please females. Faced with issues he thinks he can't fix, your brain adapts by making you get off on roles that necessitate less effort or performance, and wires itself to get off on humiliation.

Cuckold/Interracial Cuckold/Beastiality Porn - Same shit as above. You might be interested in why so many white guys are into interracial garbage, and it's mostly because - as much as you try to deny it, lefty bastard - everyone's still fucking racist, to some degree, even if unlike Holla Forumstards like us. The white brain still sees blacks as inferior and more savage, because of their origins as slaves. In a way, the rush one gets from interracial porn is the same as the one from beastiality - it's the rush of seeing something inhumane happen. It's why there's a lot less white guy on black girl porn, since the appeal in there is the reverse - but surprisingly, a lot of black guys have a fetish for getting dommed by white guys, in a reversed racial form of this. Oh, and the BBC crap comes from this fountain too - same reason beastiality porn uses horses a lot, so porn focuses on pretending they're bigger by cherry-picking actors. The reason size is less important in white on white normal porn is because the main character there is supposed to be a self-insert for the viewer, different from the interracial where the appeal is the same as cuck shit.

Furry Crap - The appeal of the different and alien. Basically, in a fursuit, it doesn't matter for shit if you're fat, lonely and with a micropenis, because they're all freaks. By submitting himself to such conditions, the man avoids the issue described above of being worried about not being good enough, narrowly side-stepping the whole shitstorm above. It's still crap and freaky.

Hentai/Japshit - I'm not going to pretend japshit doesn't have the same risk - the porn slippery slope is real, and the japs are known for loving their fucking traps. You could argue it's a little less worse since there's a lot more still pictures and self-inserts, but you're still subjugated to the societal pressure and the slope will still happen.

Trapping/Crossdressing/Forced Feminization - The ultimate cuckery. This is the point the male absolutely gives up on any responsibility as a man and decides to simply become a woman and avoid all the problems above, while simply engaging in his autogynephilia openly. This is bad, fuckers, and it needs to stop.

Wanting to Fuck Traps/Trannies/Dominating another Male - An interesting offshoot of the self-esteem problem. When man becomes so worried about not being able to please women, he simply takes the route of projecting a man into that role, instead. This is usually seen in males that have mostly avoided pornography, or at least offshoots of it that don't focus on self-insertion, and thus have little aytogynephilia themselves.

Hypnosis Pornography - Quick PSA: Porn hypnosis ain't fucking real. Hypnosis is by definition auto-suggestion - basically, you believe in it because you want to. Stage hypnosis? Several times proven to work by a combination of the audience wanting it to work and peer pressure. Shrink hypnosis? That only works if you actually want help yourself. The appeal of this in pornography is for the viewer to somehow lose the responsibility for engaging in it, a form to take the blame off himself.

Pedophilia - I believe the act of being attracted to children is centered around the problem of self-esteem as described above - it's why there's been such a massive spike of it in recent years. Basically, when engaging in sex with young children, expectations of size and performance matter nothing - they are all side-skipped. In a way, pedophiles are men without any self-esteem who have simply fallen back to abusing children instead - kinda like a high-school kid that picks on pre-schoolers.

Rape - As described above, Rape is, while closer to man's natural instinct, also somewhat based on a desire to sidestep the many hurdles of sex and sexual self-esteem the media imposes on men today.

Lesbian Pornography - Basically a way for man to remotely engage in autogynephilia. You get your brain constantly rewarded for what it recognizes as female pleasure sources.

Scat/Gore/Other Disgusting Shit - Focusing pleasure in an act other than actual penetration is a manner of sidestepping sexual self esteem issues, unless of course there's also submission involved, which is common.

Some other Shit - I can't possibly cover all fetishes in the planet, but you have to realize that most of them are in some way imbued in these two, main issues: The miswire of the brain's pleasure centers and the current self-esteem issues imbued in men by the media.

So what can I do?

If you're here and you want to help yourself, you're already taking the right steps.

First, realize all this shit above is the very cause of beta males in modern society. By letting women invent these standards of pleasure to rule over men, you are letting them control your self-esteem and your sex life with it, and that is having impact on other areas of your life - also realize the harm porn has done to your brain over the years, tracking what many fetishes your younger self would have found disgusting ten years ago.

The first step is to stop being a beta. Realize the male brain is wired in one and one only way to think about sex, and that your own phallus is an instrument that grants you pleasure. You are naturally only rewarded - and should only think about - engaging in sex with a female, and anything else is probably harmful to you and society around you.

Be aggressive - don't fall for the media lies that try to rule your self-esteem. Unless you have an actual medical condition, your dick or whatever is fine, and unless you're a complete virgin, you can perform well in sex - even if you are, there are much better sources on how female pleasure work than fucking porn videos, because lemme tell you buddy, that shit's all fake.

Realize your fetishes are a sickness to your brain - and dump porn entirely. "Oh, but my cute waifu pictures!" You fucking disgust me, but you can still look at your stupid 2D pictures once in a while, you just have to rewire your brain for them not to be your source of sexual pleasure. And no hentai of girls getting fucked or something either - on the same note, quit porn entirely, and while I did say 3D magazines were fine back in the day, your brain's much too fucked up at the moment. Maybe some other time, but give all nudity a rest for a while.

I'm not saying those NoFap fags are entirely right - people have been wanking for eons - but yes, quitting all masturbation for a while would probably help. It makes your brain hungry for arousal and can be quick in getting your brain to like what you used to like - I quit for two months and suddenly, a woman with a risqué top was already attractive to me again. I felt like at the start of puberty again - it was quite magical.

Remember not to come back to porn, and remember how your brain is supposed to think about sex - you are the male. You are the alpha. You're not here to be submissive or some shit - you stick your dick in things. The natural's that simple, and it has worked for eons.

It's time to shed the beta away. You can't fix the planet while you don't fix yourselves.

I hope this has been enlightening, Holla Forums - please discuss and have a good day.

intraresting topic, have a bump op

That was indeed interesting, have a bump

bumping because this is a quality post

cap'd for posterity

Between this thread and the dream I had last night of being in a stadium giving the roman salute, Ive decided to go cold turkey on porn.
Deepest thanks OP.

you'd be a full man if you just stopped being a fucking NAZI

please debate me I can so destroy your lies

best wishes, user

Can confirm.

In my late teens/early twenties I was watching rape gang-bangs, but after getting /fit/ and cutting out porn I feel physically fucking sick at the very thought of it. I also handle situations with women better, returning their jibes at my security as a man with jibes about their lack of femininity.

For example: A joke about dick size becomes a rebuttal about her gaping vagina or mosquito bite chest. It doesn't seem malicious, but psychologically you're re-wiring her and anyone who overhears it.

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no come on,

I'm Irish American and antifa but I respect you. I have cousins who have joined the alt right and I want to show you people you're wrong. You need to please hear me out here

Dude FUCK OFF. don't try to derail a great thread like this.

Go to another thread, perhaps one which is openly about Nazism and debate this.

Top quality penmanship, was a very interesting read, thank you.

Going no-fap or at least fapping minimally does wonders to your self esteem. Was high energy and had less problems with social anxiety in unexpected situations.
until i fell off the wagon again

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I was going down a pretty nasty path a couple years ago similar to what you've described

Like you said, it started with hetero porn, then turned into other shit like incest, then it went even further and eventually I was viewing loli and watching bestiality shit with horses fucking women. I also used to part of that faggoty "brony" shit, and indulged in that sickening clop porn. (I completely gave up that garbage a couple years ago too)

Needless to say, it was pretty bad, and I always felt fucking ashamed after jacking off to that crap.

Anyway, I recognized on my own that it was a fucking problem, so I basically forbid myself from engaging in that kind of filth altogether. I just straight up decided to force myself to stop. I went cold turkey for a while and then only allowed myself hetero porn, but I found that the slippery slope was always present, and although I never relapsed, I still found the idea of watching a man and woman fuck to be disgusting.

I've gotten to a point where I've completely stopped watching all porn completely (especially shit that involves a man), and I only jack it to nudes. I still use hentai (not videos) every now and again, but I think I should cut that out too.

It's been a long journey, but I managed to bring myself back from the brink, largely thanks to Holla Forums for pointing out the dangerous decay porn has on your mind.

I've gotta say OP, while I think your post is great, I feel all forms of porn should be viewed as cuckold as you yourself are getting off to the idea that someone ELSE is pleasuring the woman in the video. This would probably lead to your brain being wired to get off to women with other men other than yourself, leading to you beleiving it is the natural way.

I think this would also help to explain, among other things, why so many men today are seemingly becoming subservient to women.

But regardless, quality post OP, good job!

It is encouraging to hear your stories - thank you for sharing them. I truly believe mastering this is one of the key aspects of bettering yourself as a man.


I am glad I could help.

noice thanks mate

That's kinda of what I was trying to imply by the end - even heterosexual porn will lead to that hardwiring in your brain, and the slippery slope is real.

I do think still pics of just the woman should be safer since the fantasy is still you fucking her, but the issue is, by this point our modern brains are so fucked up I can't risk recommending it.

Going cold turkey seems to be the most effective method.

Nationalism is amazing and you don't need to be a nazi to know that

I'm curious. Would you consider jacking it to nude photos of women and older teens also a problem as well? I found that when I use that, I don't have the same urges to "go the extra mile", so to speak, and I find I feel more content with faps when I use mainly my own imagination with a few images to help.

Quality data and analysis. Ill discuss this with my brother who is slipping that way. Anecdotally, I too have noticed that focusing on real deal after abstinence (week or two) really seems to rewire me. To actually try to contribute: I sense that there's some more illuminating way to describe what you call newspeakishly "self-esteem", and thus a nose somewhere has figured it out already. Maybe even Freud or Bernays? Ive been lazy fuck with their work. Can any user help out?

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I'm really worried because my cousins are embracing this nationalist/alt right shit and thinking that differences matter

what matters is SIMILARITY ONLY for all humans, we can all unite if we want to!

ive already devolved into watching and fapping to everything from tranny porn to sissy porn. to the point that i wore panties under my pants one time when i went out. never really watched any cuckold shit or black shit though. how did i conquer it? realizing that i dont want to submit to anybody and that sexual satisfaction only lasts minutes. id rather know that the female i just made cum her brains out feels safe with her man. not lying next to some faggot who is into other dudes dressing up in wigs and taking dick in shitholes because for whatever reason fucking any actual hot ass female isnt an option.

this is all because men dont have testosterone anymore.

fuck off, cuck

the mods NEED to add an archive of this thread to the sticky if it gets big (and considering this board is actually decent and giving the good posts the attention they deserve, it will).

As said above, I don't think there's really an issue since the fantasy theorethically comes from fucking the women yourself - or simply finding her attractive - but I'm concerned that since our brains have been so fucked by video porn, I'm afraid it could lead to a relapse or a failure at turning off the autogynephilia.

Theorethically, a human raised with solely pictures of naked women solo should be fine, but to a man that has been met with a lot of modern pornography, I don't recommend it.

No I hate cucks, I'm just a moderate leftwinger centrist guy who hates seeing my relatives go into extremism

Extremism is never good, there is Always a happy medium

please understand you're being narrowminded

fuck

will you retards stop feeding the troll? ffs newfags can't into filter and report.

Sieg fucking Heil

im not a fucking troll ok, I have a real concern

Checked Hitler dubs, very nice.

In any case, that is one of the best ways to wake up from that delusion - a lot of the people interviewed described no real desire to act upon their fetishes in real life, even if I do describe some unfortunately do go down that sickening route.

I am glad you have found the light - how did recovery go? Or is it still ongoing?

(The issue of testosterone is somewhat real, but I actually think the influence in this is so-so. Even a properly balanced human male could fall down this pit.)

OP straight faggot

Only jews and faggots talk about sexuality.

Mr. Goldberg says you have to have understanding and compassion about sexuality, and be accepting of homoqueersgays.

Amazing read. Have any info about the female side and how they are affected by porn?

Also stop derailing and responding to bait

fair enough.

The way I cut out porn was I just mentally firewalled it. I turned it into something I wouldn't even consider going to if I wanted sexual release. I'm honestly so glad I did it as well. Cutting out porn was one of the wisest decisions I've ever made.

As I'm still quite a young person, I realised that if I continued to indulge in that degeneracy, it would become permanently ingrained in my brain, and that was something I wanted to avoid at all costs.

didn't mean to sage. Have a counter sage

the shills are here gentlemen, we have officially struck gold, keep going and have a bump

Interesting analysis OP.
As a dirty degenerate who consumed lolicon hentai, I have to say you're not entirely correct about the pedophilia, but it is likely correct. The main attributes would have to be purity and naivety. When I think of mature females, all I can think of them is them being complete sluts, tarnished, tainted, etc. I'm not going to delve any deeper into it because it's fucking degenerate. Fuck chan culture for exposing me to anime & lolicon. Regardless, I stopped consuming porn for a while now.

Quality stuff, OP.

Porn drains men of their masculine energy and drive, leaving them passive and feminine. Make no mistake, porn is a destructive addiction.

you're being a faggot

well sometimes i do feel slight urges to degenerate but only when blood is already flowing through my dick. i feel it is the programming i have done to my brain trying to take me back. but being redpilled on how and why these fetishes are degenerate, it is easy to conquer if i take a second to think. i mostly watch solo sluts on myfreecams now. i did recently go no fap no porn for a week but as soon as i saw a picture of a hot girl, i was so fucking horny it was unbearable. so i jacked off like 4 times in a row. right now i fap like once a day. mostly to solo girls but sometimes to porn. i have noticed that porn is less appealing now, though. i think the best thing you can do is realize how unhealthy and unfulfilling these fetishes are.

Very low energy, please try harder Mr. Shekelstein.


Mind you, there's harder to come back from, but don't believe for a second anything can be permanent - while yes I'd be very sorry for any man who actually pursued this shit, anything MENTAL can be reversed. The brain is notably quick to adapt to changing conditions.

I can't fix lopping your dick off but I'm hoping no one reading this has gone that far.


I did some research but there's actually way less chicks into porn than you'd think. Most girls seem to masturbate with toys rather than using any visual aid.

Notably, a lot of girls like male on male shit, but on the like three ones I managed to talk to none seemed to suffer any effects of some kind of reverse autogynephilia.

I think it has largely come to do with the fact they have almost none of the societal pressure. A girl could literally stand there in the bed like a corpse and dudes would still find sex with her rewarding.


Try to stop for real. Separate your liking of purity and innocence - you can keep watching your fucking jap cartoons, just not the porn and hentai crap - from the sexual attraction.

The liking for the aesthetic comes from yes, the seeking of purity and naivety. But the liking for the porn, I believe, comes from your backlash against the constant onslaught on your sexual self-esteem.

Realize that girls are currently mostly crap because society is crap, but a society changes with the work of men. Only you can fix this shit - better yourself, soldier.


True facts.

Its a biological function, even if youre not a shill and just retarded, it is something that needs to be properly analyzed objectively.

It's always baffled me that people don't turn to the primordial source of all JO energy instead of porn. You're goddam imagination!

Just imagine yourself fucking hot chicks! It's really not hard! What the hell do you think all of mankind did for all of history until photography was invented?

please stop thinking in extremist terms

All I need to do is shovel dirt on your dead face when it comes time to bury you in a mass grave with the rest of the antifa trash.

They were more inclined to seek out an actual woman.

You're tainted for life.

Tldr, but the reason most men are faggots these days is because of the generational decline of testosterone : cause unknown to us goys.

There was a bbc study posted here months ago about how our grandfathers had 50% more testosterone than the average man does today. The study was from the late 90s, and evidence would suggest we are even bigger faggots than we were 15 years ago. Just look how popular music has changed. No more System of a Down or RATM on the radio, now it's all about Florence and the machine, grouplove, and other indie faggotry.

We are turning into betas and trannies because our balls are literally producing less of what makes us men. Men have always been the vanguard of conservativism, but now we're stuck with liberal faggotry and cuckservatism "more Israel and refugees plz" on the right. Society is offended by trump's in your face, confrontational rhetoric because there's so many pussies that call themselves men that are now old enough to vote.

I'm hoping the don will make men start to realize that there's nothing to be ashamed of regarding being masculine, taking charge, and saying no to bullshit. It's what makes us greater than women, and I for one will not surrender my genetic advantage over 50% of the population + all the male weakling cucks.

I will probably look into TRT when I get into my 30s, hopefully the science behind it gets a little better by then.

not all antifa are trashy leftwing fanatics, that's just not true

pls man

Do people consider furies and bronies the same thing?

It doesn't matter, anyway. I completely ejected myself from that bullshit ages ago. It's part of the past for me now.

Strange, I like many of those things but I do not think I have self-esteem issues, usually I do not care about pleasing women, I'd rather think sex is a one sided affair where I am supposed to enjoy it, not somebody else, if, of course, it was moral to do outside of marriage and not only for the purpose of procreation.
Most of these fetish I think are not due to self esteem issues rather they are acquired after long hours of lurking on many boards, at least for me. Also traps are very appealing just because of the thought that they are trying to be cuter or as cute as women, they are actually trying to attract you and act like women should be as opposed to what most women do today, not that I like 'em or anything.

Actually, could you tell me what you think impregnation, drug use and amputation fetishes imply?

Anyone who lewds their waifu deserves execution!

Everyone but members of those groups, or at least they should. In both cases it's sexual attraction to anthropomorphized (to varying extents) animals.

OP's just confirming what I already now, that porn fucks with the brain. But what MILFS and older women in general. I've quit porn and masturbation for just over a month now and I've still got a thing for them IRL

*about

fair enough.

I've used porn pretty consistently over the course of my life and, strangely enough, I looked at the most fetishistic stuff when I first began to look at it, as a teenager. Over the years I've kind of slowed down, gone back to more heterosexual stuff between a man and woman.

There's a few fetishes I occasionally indulge in, but my most natural inclination has always been fantasizing about being with a woman. Imagining holding one and interacting with one and pleasing one has always been what's done it for me best.

I will say if there's one type of porn you should absolutely avoid, it's forced feminization/'sissy' porn. That shit does weird things to your brain. It actively attempts to convince you that being feminine and submissive with another man is a high quality and 'natural' source of pleasure. It seeks to exploit insecurity about your masculine traits and use them against you to convince you that you would be better off as a bottom in a dress.

Conversely, I don't think solo cute girl anime pictures are harmful to the brain. It is the exact same thing as looking at pictures of 3D women in a magazine.

Since there are other brainchemicals at play, oxytoxin (I think it's called) that you get through intimacy, sex can be used as a bonding-activity too.

You are part of the degenerates.

Stopped reading when you said it was abnormal for men to enjoy women enjoying themselves.

Men like lesbian porn because 2 women is sexier than 1 woman. It's as simple as that. Most humans desire to please women, to make them feel good. If Sex the first time feels good for a woman she will want more sex, so more chances to make her pregnant, hence men who desired to please women sexually had more kids.

See where this is going yet? A man finding pleasure in women feeling pleasure is normal. He doesn't need a male to project onto. In fact the only people who have to project onto others is women because they lack the empathy to appreciate someone else's adventures when it's not their own.

tl;dr You're WAY off base here.

As I said - I think even a red-blooded male from the past would be mentally fucked up growing in this environment. The lack of testosterone is real, but I'm focusing on what we can fix now.

Definitely making more research on testosterone treatments - maybe will post a text about that here sometime.


What you're describing is that you never felt the societal impact on yourself, thus never had the self-esteem problems, but still experienced the porn slippery slope.

Your pleasure centers do seem to be fucked a bit, and you do show some sign of bitterness against the bitchiness of modern women, a side-effect of the self-esteem drain-causing phenomenon, which was the "sexual revolution".

Depends on the context, really. I have no experience with any of these, thank God, but I'm assuming they're taken to the extreme, much like gore or rape - I think I read a thread on Holla Forums once about people getting off to women being impregnated by aliens or some crap?

The effect is a bit mixed here - it could be similar to my analysis on rape, where the woman's consent and enjoyment is not a concern at a all as an escape from reality, while impregnation worries me a bit since seeing that could be projecting yet another layer of non-participation, from seemingly getting off on something that should be heart-warming being depicted as forced and horrific.


That's simply a matter of taste I think - kinda like I wouldn't define "redheads" as a fetish, it's just what you prefer and think is easier on the eyes.


The autogynephilia is strong in you - I recommend quitting porn if you can, still. You simply seem to have gone to the slope faster.

Yes, I agree that kind of porn fucks you up a lot - the most horrific stories I heard were from people who engaged in "hypnosis" and "training" videos, virtually training their brain through self-suggestion so they hadn't had to stop and think about how fucking wrong what they were doing is.

As I said, solo pics in both 2D and 3D should be fine, but I think at the point of most modern minds it could lead to falling back into the old slope, so I can't consciously recommend it.


That's not what research shows. Finding pictures of two nude women attractive is one thing, but videos and depictions of lesbian sex have them actively enjoying themselves - WITHOUT a man. As many have said, imagination is the healthiest way to fantasize, and while still pics still provide plenty, there's none at play at video porn - what you see is what your brain is processing.

When your brain is seeing two women going at it and finding that arousing, it is literally trying to put itself somewhere in the middle. The common cases where lesbian porn came just before other forms of gay shit was ASTOUNDING, thus I feel my theory has plenty of base.

Also, sexual empathy? Really?

You should only ever care if you're satisfying the woman you're with currently, during the act itself, and even then, it should be lower priority than your own pleasure. There is nothing natural about watching some random girl moaning and thinking, 'Yes, that's hot', that's literal cuck thinking minus the extra dude.

Christ.

How is a picture of a very questionably aged idealism not harmful to the brain? I'd go so far as to say it's quite literally only appealing to autistic people.

You're way off base here. Filthy degenerate.

This isnt the thread for that lad if you want a debate thread start one

Thanks. Just deleted my porn folder.

You have to be a unique type of weirdo to actually want to be the sissy. Even in my most degenerate days, it was never tempting. Have you considered maybe you are actually a fag?

Good shit OP. The shit you've written here is something every man NEEDS to know.

I've been down a lot of these fetishistic slippery slopes, but luckily never went off the complete deep end and never started doing anything really fucking gay openly or with other people.

I can confirm if any of you are suffering from this, that lifting and quitting porn are your best friend. Your masculinity is still in the back of your head waiting for you.

Why? Why is it a bad thing to be aroused by pleasing your partner?
I don't want to be a woman, nor do I fantasize about being one. I think 'humiliation' femdom is fucking stupid.


I'm not into loli, that was just a random picture from my folder. I can also differentiate fantasy from reality and recognize that real women don't look like anime and have imperfections like all people.


The goal of the porn, as described in , is to train your brain to be aroused by being feminine and submissive. Training videos. 'Hypnosis.' That shit is actually harmful to your brain, it attempts to make you think things about your sexuality you did not.

watching sissy porn is literally mk-ultra'ing yourself. they mix catchy music with clips of hot ass girls and then attempt to psy-op you into thinking that you are even in the same universe as an actual female in regards to feminine figure etc. it attempts to actually make you think you are a female. its not trying to make you gay. its trying to corrupt your brain into thinking you are a female meant to submit to alpha males. no doubt a cia/jewish creation probably perfected on monarch sex slaves.

excellent post, thanks for this
will share with others, good OC is what keeps the chans alive

yes but surely being attracted to older women is deviant due to them being less fertile than younger women?

OP here - I don't want to start another topic entirely, but after several interviews where people who slipped into that fetish confirmed they had ongoing heterosexual sexual relationships beforehand, I do think that being a fag is not genetic and rather a combination of hormonal unbalance and going off these deep ends on pornography - however since fags always existed but just became more common, these may be just extra factors.

I have way less research into that so I won't get into it.


I've been running for a few years, just waiting on college to start easing up the schedule to start lifting. Can agree exercise helps clear your mind a lot - also does wonders to self-esteem and your energy.

Christ, I was so low-energy before.


I was talking about
Which I had erroneously read "being a woman", my bad.

You are correct in that hypnosis garbage is very much designed to auto-suggest the viewer and actively make him not question how fucked up that shit is.

As I said, I don't think men shouldn't care about pleasuring their partner at all, but their own pleasure should take higher priority and the obsession with being "good enough for women" (the constant worrying about dick size and other shit the modern media started) is harmful to the male brain.


This is also correct - interestingly, according to people who went into this rabbit hole, sissy hypnosis videos never use actual footage of traps and crossdressers, but rather use footage of real females saying they are "training" you for submission.

Your brain - which naturally finds normal females attractive - fails to trigger the disgust because these aren't fags, these are women, so this can't be wrong. It's why a lot of people into this fetish never act on it - they look virtually nothing like that and are aware of that fact during their normal lives.


Glad to have helped.


Only somewhat. Sure it's sad and I wouldn't recommend marrying a woman overly older than you, but there's nothing wrong with finding one attractive unless she's like 70.

But in order for that to even arouse you, you'd have to be submissive and somewhat gay in the first place. When I imagine myself being forced into being a woman and sucking dick it doesn't arouse me, it's just uncomfortable and I don't want to think about it. If you feel sensations in your penis when you think about it, there must have been something there to begin with.

The reason it arouses you is because it convinces you to surrender to those feelings, feelings a normal man wouldn't have. I understand the "just submit to your desires and feel the pleasure" temptation, but why is your temptation becoming a woman?

But there has to be something in you to want to seek that out in the first place. The very temptation has to stem from some type of effeminate faggotry. I've seen sissy hypnosis porn before, and beyond the way it's cut really fast paced, it doesn't do anything for me. The words aren't arousing and the concept isn't tempting.

You're making a mistake if you think all men are somehow susceptible to becoming submissive trannies. You shouldn't even talk from that perspective, it's a unique form of perversion some people are vulnerable to. Good for you if you're fighting it, but you're normalizing it by talking about it like some type of universal threat.

This was the path I took with porn

Normal -> Lesbian -> Tranny

Your post is 100% correct in my case, OP. And I've come to the same conclusion myself as to WHY I took that road. It all comes down to me thinking there is no possible way I could ever please a woman, despite being handsome and having an above-average penis.

I absolutely love women, yet I get soft if I try to imagine myself fucking one while masturbating. However, if I imagine I am fucking a tranny / or being fucked, I know for sure both parties are enjoying it.

I realize this is sick and wrong, but as you stated, years and years of rewiring my brain caused this. It's been very tough for me to quit this. As soon as I see the random arousing pic on Holla Forums or wherever, that's it. I'm aroused, and I need a release. Even just reading your post makes me want to jerk off.

This has to do with the degree of autogynephilia in the user and how far off the porn slippery slope you're in. Have you never found yourself engaging in a fetish in pornography you know younger you wouldn't have approved of?

You didn't feel anything for it because I can feel at least on that end, you are stable and not too far off the deep end. But if the poster you're replying was a fag, he wouldn't feel disgust at it - real interviews with self-denying fags indicate they feel not conflict on whether or not they want to do it, but whether or not is right.

The poster you're replying to seems to be completely disgusted at it during his normal life, indicative this is a porn-induced fetish rather than his actual fantasy. It can be fought against - I did talk to several cases of people who purged themselves off this shit and back to normal human lives.

(And cases of people who slipped into this while being actively straight sexually during the time period they watched this crap.)

If you can get into trap porn (that is, porn focused on males having sex with feminine, crossdressing males) you can be curious enough to imagine what it's like on the other end of the fetish. That's the gateway.
Homosexuality is not genetic, I believe, it is 'learned' through what leftists would consider 'open-mindedness.' That is, continuous exposure and curiosity. Purely heterosexual men avoid it by associating it with something disgusting and keeping the idea of actually participating far from their minds.

Trust me user - you can defeat this. There's several stories of people who did.

You have realized this is a problem - a lie. Now exercise self-control. Quit this crap. Everytime you think about fapping to this, remember this is a disease. This will fuck your life up.

You can do it. Pick up a sport, lift, whatever. Go read a book. Just don't fall back into this hole - you're just digging it deeper.


I also agree leftist thought can have something to do with it - males before this associated gay shit with disgusting immediately, but today we're so hardwired into thinking it's "ok" the safety flags fail to trigger in our brains.

There's less positive individuality, I mean people in general don't know what it is to be loyal or brave, they don't make a stand for their beliefs and instead everybody tries to be "friends" by being as spineless as possible.

Again you're off base.

Two lesbians don't need a man in the middle, it's a 3some scenario. I can watch two girls going at it and fuck one after they're ready to be fucked. So your idea is again flawed. I don't need to be "in the middle", I can simply be watching. Same way mutual masturbation can be fun for couples. Not all sex has to involve fucking vaginas, blowjobs and handjobs are also enjoyable and a change of pace.

Your case has no base because you're not looking at the larger picture. Easy access to porn started in the 90s, internet porn started in the 00s. We wouldn't have the faggot 30-50 year old generation if your internet porn theory was true.

What is more likely true is that we're dealing with progressive retards and heavy promotion of homosexuality. Everyone needs a gimmick to feel special without achieving anything. Some people's gimmick is being a faggot and it works.

You're looking at a single country and going "a ha! The world is this shape" while ignoring the stuff also floating in the water around it.

Is wanting to watch your woman engage sexual acts with another woman cuckolding?

I can say for myself, the sissy/tranny thing was utterly DISGUSTING when I first saw it as a teenager. To the point that when I saw a "woman" with a penis, I actually wanted to throw up.

Now, it's practically all I can cum to. I even am getting submissive tendencies that were 100% not there when I was younger.

And by the way, I 100% blame Holla Forums for all of this. I was a Holla Forumstard for years, and there was a constant stream of tranny shit being posted CONSTANTLY. Even when I migrated to Holla Forums there was a tranny thread every. single. day. It's my opinion that white men are being targeted for feminization for some reason.


Obviously you can imagine anything you want. His point was men gravitate to lesbian porn for a reason, and in my case he is correct.

Nofap is correct. You are a retard. Real men retain their seed and always have. This is the teaching of all masculine societies in history. Self abuse has always rightly been looked upon as undignified and profane and in the same league as homosexuality. All masculine cultures in history avoid it.

You are just like one of those people who thinks he is feminist for opposing tumblrs and problem glasses girls but still thinks females deserve equality. You reject the most recent deviation while moving to find shelter in the prior deviance, instead of rejecting all deviance from the root.

Your ancestors ate looking down on you watching you fap, and they think you're a fag.

lel who said anything about marrying them, I just want to fuck them. I've kinda justified it to myself in that I'm shagging them instead of a girl my age. I do of course aim to marry a girl my age or younger

OP, this is great explanation and while I had some thoughts of root of this being deriving pleasure from pleasure of woman - I never completely connected the dots. Great work.

But I like to go deeper. While I am certain your thesis is correct, it is merely a manifestation of something else - whether the issue appears or not, or whether we act on it stems from one single word:

Authority - are you willing to accept it, or are you not?

I will point you to general mindset of a leftist: Authority must be stripped away from father [1], husband [2], employer [3] and God [4] and Nature [5]. Antithesis of authority is equality - if no one holds authority, then everyone in that sense is equal.

[1] See the democratic family values - often emasculated fathers that are neither role model nor authority.
[2] Husband can no longer be the head of the house or rule over his wife because that is unequal.
[3] Employer is not an authority, as power must be given to the working class.
[4] God is no longer authority because he doesn't exist (in that sense all of his commandments are up to us) - I will remind you of personal hippie Jesus types.
[5] Nature has no bearing on you - you can be whatever you want - a woman, handicapped etc. - so long as it is possible as we can deform you in that shape!

What you can derive from this is that everything is to our personal interpretation - our whims, fetishes, weaknesses and addictions are alright so long as we are not "harming" anyone else.

Naturally, authority still exists but it is indirect authority (thus unaccepted). This authority is exercised by cunning methods.
King is replaced by democracy - he has no authority - but the media does.
Your parents may have no authority to force their rules on you - but they can emotionally blackmail you.

It is clear that this breeds dysfunctional males - it provides no healthy rules (such as: don't watch pornography), and over few generations - no positive role models.

The man who accepts no authority thinks of him as the smartest in the world, which is typical in leftists - even their own leaders are emasculated (and leftist only wishes that old fool shared more of his opinions). And a man that accepts no authority almost by definition considers himself the smartest. Thus everything he does; watching porn, getting cucked, cutting his dick off is right - because he wished so.
-Who is this person to tell me what to do? Who is this priest to tell me who I should love? Who is this man, thinking he's smarter than me?

Authority is beneficial because we as creatures are limited - you listen to your parent not to run in the road, even if you can't comprehend the dangers of it - you listen to the constructor on the matters of designing a house.
The other extreme can be observed in communism.

Excellent post, it agrees with what I think i've always known at least on some level.

I would add a potential other solution though, if someone finds it too hard to quit cold turkey, to switch the porn you watch to POV fucking women, and masturbate to the thought of fucking the woman. This makes sure that even if you do masturbate, your wiring your brain to gain pleasure from the feeling of dominating/fucking a woman.

Also realising that woman are completely brain dead sluts that are inferior to you and are desperate for your cock will do wonders for any betas out there. Even if you don't quite believe it, you can convince yourself of something if you think it enough (OP's post shows that).

You are not fantasizing about watching them. That is not how your brain works. That's not how arousal works.

I've avoided going too much into academics - but basically, psychology has shown arousal always works through some kind of projection, you brain is always trying to insert yourself in a role. Now, in solo pics or some shit, it's easier for that projection to be yourself comitting the act with that woman, but in videos, the quick nature of events - and the leaving of no room for imagination - means that more often than not, your brain will try to insert into it.

Also, while there is some 30-50 faggots, I'm not talking about the existence of gays, but rather, the tendency towards degeneracy and weird fetishes in the modern 15-30 crowd.


There are a lot of cases like yours - the slope is real.


I simply don't think masturbation is responsible for the main mental degeneracy going on. People have been fapping for eons - and while I, in this very post you didn't bother reading, recommend quitting fapping almost to fully entirely, you have to recognize disgusting fetishes started exploding in recent times.


Then you should be fine, bud.


You are largely correct - when society was tighter and people recognized authority more, there was a clear cut view of what was natural or not, what was moral or not.

I'm not saying bow your head to every leader, but rather, that man must recognize and respect wisdom and those that are trying not to harm them with authority, but to help them.

While I preferred to focus on the more specific causes, on a more general analysis, you are also factually correct.


I do not recommend the POV route - mostly because while it offers a projection, it still will cause a fuckup of your focus of pleasure and evolve into autogynephilia in a lot of cases.

If you have to fap, fap to your own thoughts and imagination, but only after you cleanse your brain of the taint of porn - what can take a hell of a long time, which is why I don't recommend it anytime soon.

Not in any particular way, at least I don't think so.
For drug use it's when they use drugs, that is to say like cocaine or heroin when they are having sex or just before or any implication of it, for impregnation it's basically just creampies, insemination and when the girls talks about her wanting to get pregnant during sex and amputation is when the girl lacks arms or legs or any combination of it.
Most of my fetishes are 2D only but these carry over to irl, that is to say I consider them hot with actual women

This is what men have been doing for eons. Your thoughts, without the injection of all the fetishes and perversions of outside sources, are clean and pure. You will imagine what comes natural to you - an encounter with a woman that fits your tastes.

You don't need porn. Your imagination is the best form of pornography.

Pregnancy might just be your desire to do it in reality, from the innocent way you describe it. Drugs might be trying to go the same way as rape but slightly more at ease, in which you seek a woman who's already kinda broken and thus will have less standards/be kinda out of her mind.

Amputation I think might have to do something in the same vein, an attraction to helplessness based off the self-esteem problem suggested earlier.

You still should get rid of them - specially the drugs one, Jesus Christ.


Checked.

I agree but I don't recommend anyone trying to heal themselves try it since their imaginations will still be corrupted by this shit porn introduced, specially since they'll be trying not to think about them.

You can't not think about pink elephants and so on.

Meant to say, at least not during recovery. After a good few months of being laid off this shit, maybe.

Bump for great bread

This is true from what I've noticed. Roommates, friends, etc.

The visual stimuli just isn't necessary. I guess because it's mostly based on mood, feelings and touch with women.


The gay porn thing is 100% true. And I think I can attribute this to penis envy.

Control over and demasculinization of a male is what is appealing here. Coupled with the fact that there are males which the female is naturally attracted to.

It's eery how many women actually masturbate to gay porn. But it's a similar form of mental gymnastics that explained for liking loli.

I'm a girl and this is one of the rare occasions where I mention my gender on this board. I used to masterbate to gay porn. Stopped because it is kike poison

I'm sure all those statues and painting of naked women weren't made for no reason…
I'm of the opinion that they used calling it art as an excuse.
In any case masturbatory aid and onanization have all been part of human and animal life throughout history

Patrick, is that you?

Yes it's mental gymnastics that modern women are entitled sluts. I guess it would depend more on your local culture and where you live.

A lot of that is really just depictions - a bit too crude to be called masturbatory aids.

Even then, as said, still aids are much better at using your actual brain than videos, which leave you no place to project accurately and fuck your sense of where pleasure comes from.


As I said before, realize women are fucked because society is fucked. And change starts with you. Someone is going to raise the next generation of women - would you rather that's you or the fat tumblrina next door?

Psychology is bullshit and doesn't split male and female natures. WOMEN project, men do not have to project. This is why I think you're a woman doing this shit and not a man.

This degeneracy you're talking about existed in the hippy movements as well. The difference is the Internet makes it more visible.

Calling it masturbatory aid is very plebeian of you. Depicting the nude human form has been a passionate artistic pursuit for eons because humans are beautiful. Not because people want to get off.

For the love of god don't get a druggie gf, even if she says she's clean now.
t. been there

I remember some threads talking about chemicals in modern life causing the feminization of men, could this also be affecting sexual preferences in some way?

Degeneracy in the 60s had to be spread publicly, and not everyone had the guts or the company to indulge in such degeneracy. You couldn't just fap to traps of scat or whatever shit back then without actually going out and meeting such people with common fetishes.
Today however everyone can be a degenerate, privately, in his own home. The Internet doesn't just makes it more "visible," it spreads it around like a disease.

It's because it's dicks on dicks on dicks right? Powerful cocks going in and out.

youtube.com/watch?v=980nzxUiUqs

Scat is gross tbh, I think you're overblowing this

I prefer another country personally. As I'm on a vacation in an Eastern European country right now, I can say the women here are 10x better. There's no shit skins, the women are fat turds, the women actually dress like women. And best of all the women actually talk like women. They don't have masculine attitudes or tones in their speech. I just seen today a young beautiful teen actually help this UGLY blind woman, who looked too blind to even wash her hair, actually help her get where she wanted to go. I've also noticed there's a larger amount of young couples and parents walking here as well. There's beautiful young women working at all the stores and restaurants. It just feels like a completely different world here. Every new comer that came to my home city basically told me this city is bitch central and the women are cold haha.

the women are NOT fat turds*

Just named a random fetish that came to mind.
All I'm saying is that today is worse than a few years ago because now we can have any kind of deviant sexual material delivered to our houses instantly, for free and secretly. Like, your own father could be watching gay scat porn as we speak and you would never know or even suspect it. One couldn't do that in the 60s.

stupid fucking taig

indeed and we really enjoy this beauty to the point where it helps us reach ecstasy if it is observed when we masturbate
From one perspective a naked body is beautiful but provided the expression and body language is different it can become very very lewd.

That's very nice man, but deserting your country just for your own sake is pretty much the worse thing you can do. Your own race and nation needs you, user.

It's cool. I was only 1st generation Canadian, and I'm returning to where my parents came from after communism came. Do I really want to work for some shit skin or woman when I'm older in Canada? Fuck that shit hole. Only the small towns and beautiful environment is what brings my love for Canada. The people are shit.

Expected long winded psuedo-intellectual bullshit, pleasantly surprised with layman interpretation and good advice.
Baleeting my porn when I get home. Got a girlfriend now, relatively soon wife, and she likes me dominant.

We need to coalesce our wisdom. Like 'The Cultured user' of past, but more focused on how to be a Citizen. "The Holla Forumsemic user; How to Live a Life Worth Living".

Alright, if you are culturally and genetically closer to that country and not the one you live in right now that's cool, I understand.

Could order magazines to get it if you wanted.

That doesn't mean people are being "infected" by it. They were always inclined that way. By your logic every CoD player is a paramilitary expert just waiting to shoot up a church

Where's that?
Life really isn't too good over here, I understand your nationalism but economical climate will simply not let you live unless you are part of the ruling elite or willing to somehow find ways to avoid taxes/the state.
I'm from Lithuania

which country?

Great thread here, lots of important info. More stuff in the links below.

mpcdot.com/forums/topic/8227-why-pornography-is-bad-for-you/

yourbrainonporn.com/

The one that gets shilled on Holla Forums for more shitskins & degenerates to come invade.

Yeah, it's just a dream of mine. I'll have to see how I'll manage but it's a dream of mine none the less.

Don't exaggerate, that's not what I meant.
Easy-access porn doesn't necessarily "infect" people, but it makes it easier for already "curious" deviants to exercise their deviancy and slip on the slippery-slop. And mags are not the same as the internet. How many mags of gay/lesbian/bdsm/bestiality/rape/pedo/furry/trans/scat/whatever material existed in the 60s? How much did they cost? Well, that stuff exists plentiful today and for free; you can't compare mags to the internet.

Anyways, think of an alcoholic. Will an alcoholic get better and cure himself while living in an environment that offers limitless free alcohol, or in an environment that doesn't?

Mate in the 80s people used to trade bestiality VHS at parties. They would put them on and laugh at some retarded whore fucking a donkey.

The VHS allowed the same shit as the internet has. Which has all the exact issues you have with online porn.

So once again we come back to it's not Internet porn, it's a change in culture. Which you completely deny because it debunks your entire 2 hours worth of asking people on 4/soc/ to fill in your surveys.

But goy, there is no difference between the sexes! Putting girl clothes on a boy makes them a woman!

I will admit that I have an addiction to watching white women having sex with bbc's. I've been trying to break it, but there's just something about the contrast, angles, and beastiality of it that keeps me coming back. Another thing, is that it's nice to just let go for a moment and enjoy the decline, which is why "WHITE GODDESS YOU CAN NEVER PLEASE… BY LILBENI" on pornhub is one of my favority flicks. I mean, I've been on this train since 2012 reading, spreading memes, and arguing with people. It just gets tiring never winning. Trump's rise has been about the only good thing to happen for a long time.

I want to also state that my addiction has probably been the result of a psyop. Anyone else suddenly start getting into BBC porn a month or two ago? Around that time there were many posters here posting pictures in unrelated threads about "nordic women have been kept away from bbc and now they get to enjoy it" kind of shit.

I'm not trying to slide or demoralize, but I figured this could help, or at least help me rationalize this.

Remember kids, ID filter is your friend

Honestly no idea, and I'm curious. Ukraine?

Dude, chill, you are jumping on all kinds of retarded conclusions.
a. stop trying to compare the Internet to any other kind of media. The Internet is objectively wider and more accessible than anything else ever was.
b. I am not saying that there isn't some kind of cultural shift taking place. I was just and only talking about the fact that the Internet can and does help breed deviancy.
You seem to think that Internet porn has nothing to do with anything, that is totally and ultimately wrong.

The one where the Ukraine people are immigrating to.

Same here Normal > Lesbian > OH SHIT NIGGA WHAT ARE U DOING

OP Actually wasnt a faggot today.

I have to confirm but I have to bring in my own realization that I had when I was 14.
When I was 14 I realized I had a fetish of sexual humiliation, i.e I enjoyed stories of girls getting called dirty names and being all other sorts of sexually humiliated. I also had that androwhatever(im sick so idc how its spelt) thing where Id project myself into that.(so I never thought of me as guy getting humiliated)
Infact at some point in life later on I thought that I was submissive because I enjoyed projecting myself into that girl. However I never acted on that irl. Took me til I was 25 to find a girl I was with that I was actually dominant, I enjoyed doing those things to her. Even tho after the relationship was over I started enjoying projecting myself into the girl again in doujins and what not. However thinking of myself being a sissy or a male submissive has actually never occured to me nor did I find the thought of it pleasuring, quite the opposite.

Anyways what Im also wanting to say is that fetishes are also created in a different way. As I mentioned earlier when I was 14 I had that thing where I realized the sexual humiliation thing. I liked the name calling thing, also bestiality(only dogs) spankings(no other form of violence), and so on.
And Ive had actually experienced some things already at that point.
As family we moved to a backend ass village in the middle of nowhere when I was 5, and the ppl there were very xenophobic to ppl outside of the town(same nationality as me and my family) so kids tried to be mean and called me names, it continued on til I was 16/17 because I never had a father figure that taught me how to deal with that, just a mom that kept talking shit about her divorced husband/my dad.

I hated dogs cause one bit me when i was small.
All of those things I hated irl I "loved" sexually. Its why I liked bestiality with dogs but not with horses.
I do have to point out that Im not into that dog stuff anymore, while at the same time Im not scared of dogs anymore either.
Out of my own experience Id have to say its because Im not emotionally involved with them anymore(i.e scared).
Say you hate getting called names, bingo, fetish, it fit with my ex, she loved that.

Probably an angle to look at too.

idd can confirm, my ex(the one I talked about when I was 25) was the cutest lil thing you could see, loner type, but very pretty, smart cared about her looks, played vidya etc.

However ever since she got a tumblr account after we broke up she changed into this manbeast of a woman.
She suddenly started trying to be manly, instead of calmly trying to discuss things when there was an issue she'd explode and go full caps lock irl.
She cut her hair short(not super short, but not the pretty long mane she used to have) saying it was her worst decision ever but kept it like that, used wigs however so she keeps telling herself its for the wigs cause cosplay. But I think its just an excuse she tells herself.
However the worst part is that she likes nogs now too. And shes completely buying into that tumblr BS that white ppl are bad n boring. She has a white boyfriend but she kept tagging black guys as cute on Tumblr every now and then.
Cut ties with her when she went full caps on me for me not pandering to her feelings.
Oh btw, shes mixed, white mom mexican dad.


Do you have nogs? That could be a reason why you like it if my theory is correct. Fix your shit.

Do what OP says or try to lose your emotional feelings towards nogs(i.e. your hate towards their gimmedats attitutde or whatever)
Research NLP or find some therapy methods that are based on NLP, theres a lot and some of them work pretty well in removing feelings that you dont want without making you lose your oppinion(i.e. you'll still think nogs are shit, but you wont be emotional about it)

*hate nogs

DON'T GO FOR THE BAIT!
FILTER HIM, YOU STUPID FUCK!

It's a sickness, man. You're feeding on the defeat and your body fucking loves the tabboo. Break the cycle. Resist.

You're (ironically) only into this kind of porn because of how redpilled you are on niggers - as I said, it's the same appeal as beastiality.

Also remember most women aren't into interracial dating and the ones that are are usually fat and ugly. Remember most porn stars outright refuse to do interracial stuff.

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I'm 46 years old and a sex addict. Some friends of mine and I found a stash of porno mags when we were about 12/13. Not playboys, penthouses or hustlers – it was the hardest material available in print at the time. From there i went to videos. I also found a lot of porn on the precursors to the internet that existed back then. There was a lot. It was just all text based. The Internet came along in the 90s – first thing I did in was go looking for porn. And found it. In the real world, I took to supplementing my girlfriends with strippers, street prostitutes and fag sex. Tried swingers clubs and orgies over three marriages that all ended in divorce, forced my second wife to let other men fuck her. after 35 years of porn, I've done every kind of sex in the book except anything involving blood, feces, rape, animals or kids. Anything else, I've done it.

did you like giving another man your anal treats

They only do it as an absolute last resort when their career is pretty much done. In other words, when theyre a dead inside used up whore.

a lot of the really big and famous ones do interracial stuff

I browsed /r/coontown everyday for about a year and a half before moving to pol if that says anything about my opinioin towards them. My attraction definitely has to do with hatred, but I always thought it was about the lefty white women. I'll check out NLP after supper - thanks for the tip.

I know all about the statistics and studies. It's something more primitive for me - a way to realse built up hatred or at least that's how I see it.

It's also about lonlieness and the emptiness I feel when my girl is gone to work. This is probably the reason most guys go down this road. I never have a desire to browse when I have my QT around.

It really is disgusting. I'm going to change things one way or another. It is definitely impacting my life negatively. I literally browsed it for 2 hours until I saw this thread. Thanks for shedding light on the subject, even many people think your a faggot.

And then we get leftist articles written by kikes bitching about how porn stars are racists because they refuse to fuck black guys.


Just remember to spend quality time with her when she's around, and get a fucking hobby for when she isn't.

I'm just going to come out and be honest here. Some of you will paint me as a degenerate faggot, and are right to do so, but given the OP introduced the topic for discussion, I'll bite.


I've been doing this for years, long before Holla Forums even existed (I'm early 30s). I gave up on being a man years ago due to being unable to build a career, meet a nice woman, have kids and my own family.
It is never going to happen, the world just doesn't have a place in it for the average guy. You've either go to be super masculine and rich as a male or super feminine as a female.

I have an addiction to porn that stems back to the days of dialup and thumbnail galleries but in retrospect, that stuff is basically softcore to what is available today. Young men of today don't have to contend with shitty images and grainy videos, they can jump straight into things like sissy hypno and go and ask mum and dad to get on HRT. I actually hate the guys over on lgbt on cuckchan, not because of their faggotry, but because they are so young and can get HRT and look amazing (in my opinion). That option is not open to me given I'm an 80s kids. If I had of been born 20 years later, you can bet your ass I'd be transitioning.

OP is correct that the sissy/crossdressing/forced fem fetishes are exploding. Look at sissy hypno for example - this wasn't even a thing 5 years ago, but the trend is shooting sky high. I cannot masturbate to anything else these days but that.

I come on here, read, occasionally post, watch and listen to alt-right media, perhaps in the home I can pull myself out of this and actually be a man, but I don't see it happening, I am literally addicted to dressing as a girl, fucking myself like I was a girl, and because that has all grown tiring, I'm now entering the stage of meeting people via fetlife - men, women, whatever, just denigrate me and treat me as if I was a woman. It is so fucked but I can't stop either. All of you would be disgusted to have someone like myself consider themselves alt-right and a polack and would sure gas me with the kikes when the time comes. The only thing is, I am pretty sure there are a few of you here who are in the exact same position I find myself. Where do you think I learned about traps to begin with? Cuckchan and Bailey Jay.

I forgot to mention - I went to my GP to discuss getting on testosterone in the hope of stopping all this bullshit but they wouldn't give it to me. My levels are normal, so there is no chance of doing test under medical supervision. I'm sure if I told them about my fetishes though, they would've given me all the female hormones I wanted.

Actually you sound like you fit right in with the alt-right.

You have a fucking addiction though and you probably know that this is all your fault and has nothing to do with being genetically "average" and underachieving. Next time you decide to dress like a girl and shove a dildo in your ass, do it in front of a mirror. If you can't stand watching how ugly and ridiculous you look, then maybe your shriveled dignity will rise from the grave and help you fucking stop.

Kikes are behind interracial and "sissy hypno" just like the rest of it

nice limiting belief fam

I feel sorry for you.
You are a misguided man, the average man has a place in society.
t. an average man

gotta love britain

Lol well sure. Also men in gay porn are generally more /fit/ and attractive then men in straight porn.

But honestly, it was more about a man moaning like a little bitch and taking a submissive role.

The entire thing is horribly disgusting in retrospect.

It's all man-hating bullshit. That's the root right there. That was the fantasy.

Unfortunately that fantasy shouldn't come as a surprise given our current social climate. Again, a lot of women watch gay porn. It's fucked.


Thinking that women are entitled sluts just makes you observant. The projection of that frustration on to loli porn is what makes you a degenerate.

Justifying that degeneracy so that you could sleep better at night is what makes it mental gymnastics.

It's no different than taking street drugs because life is hard and unfair.

Been there, done that. Beyond it. The only thing left for me to do is be seen like that in public, which is what I'm working towards now (been going to the gym for years, but now doing more cardio and working my legs harder for a more feminine definition).

I'm actually above average in the looks department, just not in the masculine sense. All this staying inside on the chans for years helped avoid a lot of sun damage so I pass for someone in their mid to late 20s.

I am pretty sure all of this ends in suicide around age 40 when I lose the majority of my youthful looks and look like some old aging faggot tranny and my ego cannot deal with it.

Ya, when their career is on the downslide. Pretty much when everyone is tired of seeing the whore and she looks weathered.

I've tried, but I can't get a job because of my sketchy employment history. I can't make friends because most people my age have already started a family and have an established career - what on earth would we have in common? I can't meet (good) women because they know I'm a loser.

Sometimes I wonder if the internet is poison in that it has kept me behaving, acting, thinking as I did when I was 14 years old..

get online friends. you can even pretend to be a real girl to them.

Absolutely this. 10/10


That is literally full of childish excuses my man. There are jobs that don't ask/care for your employment history. Everyone can make friends, no matter their personality or age. No one knows you're a loser but you. You can stop being a loser at any time. If anything, you just seem lazy to me tbh.

You know that if you just cut exposure to this shit, stopped looking at it, stopped involving it in your mental space - it would magically go away for you. Do you not understand that?

Your natural inclination is none of this stuff. It is your own beliefs and imbalance that is doing this, combined with outside stimuli that you repeatedly expose yourself to.

Fucking look away. Spend your time on other things. Get away from pornography.

Stop being a defeatist.
Folks down at the lumber mill or similar dont give a piss about your employment history, manual labour doesnt pay bad and is pretty available.
You would have something similar with most people, i don't mean being a degenerate, but your hobbies, if you don't have hobbies then find something you love doing.
You're only a loser to them if you portray yourself as a loser.

Yes, they are excuses, I know that. It is just very difficult to change what has become a lifestyle enabled by neetbux and rich parents. About the only thing that might change my behaviour is to go cold turkey by living innawoods without arms reach access to a computer and the internet.

Now we get to the heart of the matter.

As much as I despise what I've become, I love being a sissy faggot, it is very bizarre to say that. Just like a junky that swears he wants to quit all the while he's prepping his next hit.

If it exists, I've passed the event horizon as it pertains to pornography. Allow my posts to serve as a warning to you younger guys that if you do not stop now, you're going to end up like me - hanging by the end of a rope, put there by your own hands.

It is. The internet is escapism as it has unlimited distractions to keep you occupied and unfocused. Limit your internet usage to only happenings, news and gathering information that is relevant to your real life. Or whatever works for you: Treat it like an addiction and control it or rid yourself of it. You'll never grow as a person if you live most of your life in front of a screen.

Also like said: stop being defeatist. Just because you had a slow start dosen't mean you can't get there. There's a big different between being realistic about your situation (bad as it might be) and declaring yourself defeated.

Fine, if you think so, go do that. And I mean it, 'do it'.

I live in Australia, and these positions are full of immigrants now. I did 2 months in a factory making doors, I was the only white guy. I got bullied and just stopped going back. I know I can get those jobs, I just can't keep them. Even your average intelligence blue collar worker knows there is something amiss with me quickly.

why cant you keep a job? a job where you wouldnt get bullied by muh evil immigrants

Because I won't go hungry or want for (material) things when I have the poison of neetbux and parents to fall back on. For example, my father just bought me a new car 2 months ago. There really is no incentive to work hard and save for a car when I get one for free.

Furthermore, I couldn't even hope to earn over the next 20-30 years what I stand to inherit once my parents die (2 properties, shares [stocks], cash). They're not super rich, but upper middle class. In some ways my life is perfect, and in other ways it was destroyed because my parents and the government made it far too easy and were only too happy to accomodate all my bullshit excuses.

I think you know what the real problem is. It helps to talk to people, so I get why you are here. But please stop with the pity party bullshit.


I'm going to have to agree here.

I guarantee if you dropped it cold turkey today and stay away from it, a year from now you will look back on your previous self with sadness and disgust, and wonder how you could have ever fallen so low.
Take control of yourself and of your life. It is the dopamine rush of addiction you want, not this sissy shit. And you can get that dopamine via other means - such as being with a woman.

So you're spoiled, for lack of a better word?
You should recognize the fault in your ways of lazyness and try to make something of yourself, do you want to be remembered by the guy who got everything 4free and was a useless fuck?

I've tried but if it is within arms reach, I will just be weak and access it. I constantly masturbate, at least 5 times a day. It is the only thing that makes me feel good. I've given up sugar, I've given up alcohol, but for the life of me, I cannot give this shit up. People will say I am making excuses, but my addiction is so strong that the only way for me to avoid this stuff is if the net went away. I often pray for some kind of disaster that would remove computers from my life.

I am amazingly spoiled and always have been. I couldn't live the easy life I do if it wasn't for the hard work of others. My father bought me a car (4x4) so that I could go innawoods. You know what happened the first night? When night came, I was out there, alone with my thoughts, got scared and packed up and came home. I couldn't even deal with 1 night of it or stay until the morning, just drove home in the middle of the night. 3 hours there, 3 hours back, all for naught.

I know this feel. Hate race mixing, hate seeing BM/WF in media, in real life, hate seeing real life couples in media. Hate multicult and immigration, know all about the purposes of all this media and immigration policies.

Yet IR is pretty much the only non-hentai porn I get off to.

It's because you're redpilled you get off on it - same appeal as beastiality. You need to quit cold fucking turkey - realize how fucking disgusting it is.

Do you have depression? I used to masturbate a lot when I was depressed and wanted to kill myself every day.
It wasnt 5 times a day, but on a lot of days masturbating was the thing I looked forward to the most, it was literally the "highlight" of the day.
Getting rid of my depression fixed that for me and I barely do it now.

Ive already said it in an earlier post, but therapy stuff based on NLP works wonders, some of them are free even and you can do and learn them by yourself if you invest the time into it.
Thats how I did it, and if i wasnt such a procrastinating pos Id probably have fixed a lot of other things as well.

Im guessing I was onto something when I explained the "you love what you hate thing" earlier. I will give you the same advice as Ive given the other guy earlier, learn some proper NLP technique/s and get rid of your hate on nogs.
As I said earlier, you'll still know nogs are shit, you'll still believe the same things you do now about them, you just wont be emotionally involved anymore.

Stay there next time, the worst thing in the woods is you. Get a rifle with you if you need to feel more comfortable, that might help.
Be brave, make a campfire, shoot targets and have a nice sleep.
forgot to mention that im not american so all migh not apply

I do, and I've probably had it since I was a teenager. Masturbating is the highlight of my day, but it doesn't sustain a happy mood for very long, which is why I do it so often; anything to escape the misery that is my life.

I have seen 3 therapists in my life and all 3 have been enablers, excuse creators and medication peddlers (which I refuse to take). All that results from therapy is you get to enjoy indulging another person in your fantasies. I would always look forward to the sessions so that I could talk about the degenerate shit as a huge thrill. Plus, they're all leftists and are not going to agree that I need to stop the chidlish shit and aspire to being a traditional male in a traditional gender role and find a woman who thinks the same.

I am going to again, just to try and stay a night as I was so disgusted with myself for leaving. I never really thought I would be as afraid that I would pack up and leave before the first night was over.

I would like to get into guns and hunt, something I've wanted to do for a long time but it's difficult to get weapons here in Australia. That is yet another example of how the government has cucked young men like me.

You're deluding yourself if you think you're not a cartoon loving degenerate

What NLP site would you reccomend?

Find a friend who would beat you over the head for wanting to leave, if you cant do that then go alone, be confident in yourself and see that there is no monster in the forest, and if there is then the mosnster is you.
also alf is that you?

I'm just plain addicted to porn. I don't even find joy in it any more. The 3D porn I watch is out of habit, the 2D shit I read is literally just for the little bit of story in them. There is no pleasure to be had in any of this yet I can't stop myself. I've tried quitting cold turkey, I deleted my collection multiple times just to one day realize Ive made another one, I've blocked myself from accessing porn sites but nothing works.

How the fuck do I kick this shit? How the fuck do I nofap?

A couple of points I take issue with, judging by my own experience:
A. I didn't experience the fetish slippery slope many people report from porn. I have one "weird" fetish that actually predates any experience with porn. Maybe this is because I've never much been into video and prefer pictures or text, but the slope isn't universal.
B. Autogynephilia is definitely real, but the explanatory theories proposed about it don't add up. Originally it was supposed to be an explanation for non-homosexual trannies, but in practice you see lots of homosexual autogynephiles (for instance, you see a lot of posters on imageboards talking about their fantasies about being fucked as a girl, where the men involved are basically a prop to demonstrate their femininity). Conversely, I have the stereotypical imageboard thing of wanting to be a little girl, but it has nothing to do with sex as far as I can tell–I don't get off to gender transformation stuff, and I can get off to stuff involving my fetish without imagining myself as the girl doing it. I mostly deal with this desire by reading extremely saccharine, cutesy yuri romance manga. It would never occur to me to jerk off to this stuff, it's different brain circuits entirely. I do sometimes read stuff that combines this with my fetish (though there's really only a couple of doujins like that), but the enjoyment remains separate. It's like appreciating the floor in a Rustle image–it looks good, it's a testament to the man's skill, but it's not what's turning you on. Also, I'm totally comfortable in dominant roles and would stay quite masculine in behavior were I granted my wish to be the little girl. I don't think that desire actually turns people beta, though from the outside it looks like it should.

Some more theoretical quibbles:
I don't think porn can explain trannies and faggots. There are lots of men out there who use a lot of Jewish porn and yet faggots remain a very small portion of the population, with trannies being even smaller. If anyone's being conditioned into homosexual behavior it's women.

Furries are an almost entirely gay male subculture. It's the same shit as glory holes, also an entirely gay thing–anonymous, degrading sex. It has nothing to do with the feelings of inadequacy you describe, which are mostly a heterosexual male thing.
From what I hear interracial shit is not actually popular among white guys (well, some like WM/AF, but you're talking about BM/WF). Jews push it because it furthers their agenda, but it's not a moneymaker.
You're neglecting the role disgust itself plays in this, which I think is crucial. I suspect there are some people who can only get off to stuff that simultaneously disgusts them. This creates a slippery slope effect similar to the one you describe, where the stuff that used to get them off eventually gets normalized in their minds and ceases to arouse them, forcing them to move to something new. I think this is the main driver of the slippery slope effect people experience with their sexuality, and I also think most gay men have this problem (though I would stop short of saying it's the cause of male homosexuality, because I really don't know for sure).

Start by containing your shit. There was absolutely no need to upload that image of yours and infect this place with your deviancy, but you did.

why contain it?

degenerate posters fuck off

You have to contain it because you will infect others and start them off down the road of this degenerate shit. Why do you think I don't post often to Holla Forums? Because inevitably I get aroused by the humiliation and look for others to join me in my misery.

Look at all the shit I posted about sissy hypno. If I went doing that in other Holla Forums threads and posting pics of sissy sluts, I'd shit those threads up and give others the impression this behaviour is normal. Best keep to the other containment boards and enjoy that stuff there.

Why do you ask? Looking for a date with a daddy?

This thread is about identifying and analyzing deviancy to help prevent it, I thought it would make sense to give an example of the shit I'm afflicted by.

I don't have any friends, so it's not a choice. Yes, the monster is me and always has been.

Who is alf?

Great idea. Let's all dump porn on Holla Forums! It's for research after all, right?
No. Just no.

find white wife. have white children. form a white nuclear family.

The jude is powerless.

What would you guys say if a particular user had a couple thousand still pics of his waifu that he got off to all the time, would that be alright?

Can we have a discussion without the herp derp, some of us have real problems and want a way out, but this herp derp marry a white woman tmw and have white kids by Thursday shit doesn't help at all.

I know I am a degenerate, I don't need reminding, I need help.

Video porn was not that easily obtainable in the 80s. It was sold only in sleazy porn stores in the seedy part of town, if at all. You had to risk being seen going into into the place if you felt like jerking it to double dildo dykes or whatever – which only the most pathetic degenerates would do.

MAKE ARYANS GREAT AGAIN

Great post OP, very insightful.

I guess I'll try going cold turkey for a while but goddamn its gonna be fucking hard.

I meant the 'monster is you' part by you realizing that most animals pose no threat to you while you are more threatful to them.
I don't know where to find friends since im not particularly good at it myself.

Anyways im off to bed, i hope you get on the righteous path. God bless.

I don't see any problem if its Asuka. If it was Rei then we would have a problem.

literally gas yourself

to stay on topic, great write-up OP, i appreciate the work you're doing browsing degeneracy and figuring it out so that we don't have to

It is. Last time I tried I thought I had caught a cold or something with the stress my body started going through. It really is a withdrawal.
That and I'm naturally high testosterone, so the extra really kicked my balls around. First time I had noxturnal emissions.

I like this guy's way of thinking a lot

So many attempts to de-rail this thread

SAVED

As far back as I can remember I've been interested in hypnosis/mindbreak but it has less to do with seems to be more of a weird side-effect of paranoia. is definitely right about femdom though: I've noticed that I'm only interested in it while going through bouts of depression and it fades away as my health returns.
Sometimes I wish I was more vanilla and lately I've deleted a bunch of more harmful hypno files, still can't bring myself to delete the majority of it and the more therapeutic stuff.

I guess a gradual lowering of it would work better. Cut it down to fapping 2-3 times a week only to hetero POV, and slowly reducing the amount of times fapping a week to almost 0.

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Hello friends. I don't feel I have much to add in terms of advice besides a bump, OP was pretty thorough.

I do want to mention that I used to be a total porn addict in my pre/teen years, but I eventually just plain grew bored with it. I can confirm that it is, indeed, a slippery slope, much like any drug. I was able to kick the porn habit, but I replaced it with a much worse ERP habit. I suppose it helped me become a better writer, but at what cost? I was a virgin until I was 25 in large part because it took that long for me to get over shit like performance anxiety and my semi-autistic perfectionism.

Despite being a full-on perverted degenerate, I married my first even though she's a wetback — to be fair, she's 5'0", lithe, and looks just like the chick in the hispachan ad banners and we lived a fairly normal home life. She went full-on body piercing/tattoo mural the instant she got out of school and started making any kind of income and decided she was back on the market though. Oh well, now I get to try again with a nice, white QT. That's what I get though for trying to settle down with one of my ERP partners.

But, anyway, unlike many of the younger men on this board, my father was in my life to a more-than-insignificant degree and I think that actually did help me develop my sense of pride and gave me a target to head toward. Beating the shit out of my gubmint school peers academically definitely helped too, but being raised primarily by my idiot drug-whore of a mother and suffering all different kinds of abuse and neglect severely affected my social capabilities and took many years and many embarrassing failures to get over. Porn is an easy outlet and the internet was made to deliver it, and sometimes I think I have to credit porn with having saved my life back when I was heavily suicidal as a teen, but I wonder how it has affected my adult life. It has been really hard to settle on any one girl since I went single again.

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Hide ID lol

Nope, gets me off harder if people actually know about my degeneracy.

this. people are just asking me to filter them

this is the only bit I disagree with, if you're referring to ASMR or "guided meditation / guided stimulation(basically trying to make you cum w/o touching your dick)" shit then it's absolutely real and absolutely "works" it's some fucked up mind control shit that uses tones to stimulate your pleasure center and makes you more open to suggestion. search up "sentimental corp" if you want to see a direct(and privately operated) example of this being used as mind control.
the rest is spot on though, porn is detrimental as fuck to the male brain. internet porn turned my dad into a fag-enabling cuck, shit was sad to watch.
I've stayed away from porn because of that, and because I had several friends who ran up a pricey ass phone bill back in the day, saw a girl getting fucked by a donkey in mexico on usenet when I was 12 and never went back.

this is the only bit I disagree with, if you're referring to ASMR or "guided meditation / guided stimulation(basically trying to make you cum w/o touching your dick)" shit then it's absolutely real and absolutely "works" it's some fucked up mind control shit that uses tones to stimulate your pleasure center and makes you more open to suggestion. search up "sentimental corp" if you want to see a direct(and privately operated) example of this being used as mind control.
the rest is spot on though, porn is detrimental as fuck to the male brain. internet porn turned my dad into a fag-enabling cuck, shit was sad to watch.
I've stayed away from porn because of that, and because I had several friends who ran up a pricey ass phone bill back in the day, saw a girl getting fucked by a donkey in mexico on usenet when I was 12 and never went back.

pls delete if double post, fix your site little gremlin man

So what's the longest anyone here has gone without fapping/sex ?

I've never made it past 50 days of trying…

It's still hypnosis, and hypnosis is entirely based on suggestion. The whole ooga booga let's make you do shit without wanting only works because all the ooga booga makes you believe that shit works.

The best argument I've seen used against hypnosis being this all powerful reconiditioning tool is that it'd see a lot more military use if that were the case, rather then being a thing for deadbeat shrinks, stage artists and fetishists.

My point is that any kind of hypnosis damage is reversible.


You have to keep trying soldier. First attempt I made one day. Second four days. Third two weeks. And then it became easy.

My best streak was seventy days. As time goes on, it starts getting easier, but there are weak moments. It is absolutely imperative that you do not fuck up in those weak moments. That initial fuck-up is usually gonna lead to a massive binge fap within the next day or two, and that'll completely undo all of your progress toward kicking the sex addiction, and then you're right back at the difficult task of starting a nofap streak.

t. /nofap/ owner shamelessly shilling my board

Dont forget foreign owned liquor stores all had a porno section too. you could get them 4 hr pornos where maybe only 2 scenes of 20 were even good enough to fap to, for a decent price of $5.

You kids dont even know the joy of watching that porno you just bought from Ahmed at ABC liquors earlier on. All you had to go off of was the box. You had to go through the whole thing, in order to find out what the other scenes were to find out if you got your money's worth or not.

Fuck, we had to work at being degenerate scum back in the day, you lazy faggots.

A week.

Bro, I've been doing the NoFap (unofficially) since high school 2006 (at least)…

yes

fuck off walf

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This may be the most concise and devastating critique on modern society I've ever witnessed.

I have him ID blocked since he was just posting fag porn, what is it?

Based OP

Excellent read. It kind of confirmed and supported a few ideas I already had.

Also interesting to note is the young exposure and how plastic their minds are at this stage.

I've seen this thread before. Stop fucking posting it every time it 404s you annoying cunt.

a nerd pontificates on the degeneration of society as fag dildo porn from his favorite imageboard plays

The interesting part about all this is that %-wise, there are more gay jews than caucasians.

I don't have a citation, I recall hearing it on The Daily Shoah once

This only really applies to fursuiters. The majority of produced material is 2d, and it relies more on abstraction than any kind of avoidance. It's why you see so many wolves or dragons or sharks as males, and rabbits and deer as females. This all goes out the window with the gay material of course, but there it's just assigning animal abstractions based on homosexual roles. You'll still see the same dragons and wolves and tigers as the dominant males, but also submissive rabbits and foxes, etc.

This isn't to say that the furry community isn't the most degenerate thing since Parkinson's disease, its just that the reason its so degenerate is that they build a community out of abstracted sexuality and add in all the actually harmful fetishes you listed, plus new ones they invent all the time.

I'd argue that if you have to choose a fetish, sticking to "vanilla" furshit is the best way to keep from degrading. It's been 10 years so far and I still don't see any appeal in cuckolding(unless inserting as the bull) or female domination or anything like that.

I also seem to have developed homosexual tendencies on the side, however. I think it's just externalized autoandrophilia though, which from what you're telling me might be a bonus.

No, its about his futile struggle and request for help knowing full well the moment someone offers a hand he intends to pull them down with him.

you need to work for something other than money then. your parents should buy you a small plot of land and go do something with it. grow a garden or raise chickens or whatever.

This seems very accurate from some of my own experience and when viewing it with common sense. Especially the self esteem stuff, as I could never put myself in the position of the guy with the monster dick seeing as i'm about average.

I actually found myself actively trying to resist the more and more fucked up fetishes, and would take breaks until I could get off on more regular stuff again. Just going to try and totally do away with porn for now. Thanks for typing this all out, and definitely saving this to remind myself every once in a while.

Quality stuff my friend. I'd be interested in seeing more about the slippery slope of pornography viewing as it relates to IRL activity. At what point does being into lesbian porn begin to affect your real life behavior, for example.

I have never in my entire life been able to get into lesbian porn. Where am I supposed to insert? Why would I want this? There's no entry vector.

22 yr old porn addicted hopeless NEET here. we are the hopeless, cucked porn generation

The awareness is even more disgusting, isn't it?

And 4chn is the containment site

Lift weights. Squat. You'll stop wanting to be a sissy faggot but instead be a strong man, and the testosterone boost from squatting will help.

Speak for yourself.

OP's entire study is based on faggots and people wanting to be faggots though

This thread was pretty good before you showed up. You sound like a genuine cuck, someone who would allow the King to fuck your wife because it' his "right" as an authority figure.

At least it wasn't funded by faggots and kikes

Great job OP

I already do this, and I've been lifting on and off my entire adult life, but it has not stopped the sissy urges at all. I am in better shape than your average person and I eat good. I said earlier I thought a way out of this was to get on testosterone, but the doctors won't have it and fucked if I am going to buy it from some Chad at the gym, God only knows what you're actually getting.

I really don't think there is any saving grace as I am addicted to sissy stuff especially since sissy hypno came around, that stuff is like heroin (the good ones are, anyway).

Talk to guys on /fit/. They'll tell give you advice on how to get legitimate roids

If its bitcoin + darknetmarkets, forget it. I'm not gonna order shit to my house.

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I didn't imply that. I meant how to find legitimate seller in your area

Prefer these ones tbh.

Still likely sourced from darknetmarkets. There have been fucking disasters where people got fentanyl instead of roids, I'm not ever going to take that chance.

Actually, I'm sorry, I shouldn't post that fucking shit. I can't even help myself.

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I can't be the only person here who is stuck in this hellhole and wants to get out, am I?

The unhealty sexuality hellhole? Of course, you are not alone.

I think we're all in different hells of our making, each one slightly different. This thread has been very eye opening for me, most of the fetishes on here are things I never really understood or knew what they were before. The whole cuck thing made no sense to me, then I saw this guys post>>5928022 and I became really curious as to what was wrong with him, I went and watched the video he wrote the title for. I've never been more disturbed in my life.

I've always been sort of apologetic towards Judaism, Feminism, Freedom of Speech, etc. But that video is just blatant evil, and it wouldn't be possible for it to exist without all those things. I'm starting to think I need to readjust my worldview.

Things are a lot worse than I thought.

Perhaps not alone, but it puts you in a very lonely place. I wish to change but it is difficult when I revel in the degeneracy at the same time.

I am strongly advising you not to do that. Even if you are 100% sure it does not interest you, once the seed is planted and gets a little water, it will take grow and take root.

After watching that video I never want to watch porn again. I used to watch a lot of white male Asian female porn, and more recently I've watched vanilla massage porn. But that video was genuine brainwashing for destruction of the white race and humiliation of white males, and it had thousands of views, people actually masturbate to that shit.

I can not bring myself to ever touch my dick to porn again when this shit is going on in the world. And how do we stop? There has to be a way to stop it, but so many people are complacent.

What about you, user? What's your plan for getting better?

There is much worse stuff out there. If anything, the cuck/interracial stuff is a short trip otw to sissy content.

I don't think I will get better unless there is a dramatic change in society. If I wasn't deadly afraid of getting HIV, I would be even more degenerate than I am if you catch my drift.

As mentioned early, I think one day I will just up and neck myself. It doesn't have to be that way for other people though.

As said. Don't do it.

So I'm a faggot and have been actively trying to suppress my urge for male sexual contact via porn. It seems like the moral option, but as porn is based on exploitation of the young and vulnerable, I'd like to find some alternative outlet that doesn't actively degrade others or our culture.

Don't neck yourself user, you're a white male who is wise to the ways of the world. And you have a dry sense of humor as your video showed. You obviously have problems, but the world will be better if you stay alive as long as you can.


What about drawings? Paintings? Can you masturbate to this?

Great shit OP. Only quibbles I can find are that some things like cuck shit makes sense IRL from a sperm competition standpoint, and "because of their origins as slaves" probably has nothing to do with it. I'm not nitpicking, I can't think of the last time anyone has made this much sense on the topic. What old sources do you think are the best on the topic?

This is purely anecdotal. I have never been very worried about pleasing females or really thought little of myself, and I have never got into anything outside of normal for porn. Lesbian shit didn't really do anything for me. Regular porn is sometimes okay. 3d stills of white girls, even clothed, has always been my go-to. I never grew up talking about sex, even with guys really.

My (former) friend always did, and never could stand to go without a girlfriend. He thought his mission in life was to live for women, to please them. His dad always belittled him, too. He left home and became a much more confident and dominant guy. Then he came home. He quickly went from normal shit, to femdom, to cuckold porn, to sissy shit. He let his wife fuck around, and even found black guys to for her to meet. Got into pegging and who knows what else. Pretty well destroyed his life and his credibility as a man. Wasn't a pedo, but started making jokes about little girls. It's not proof of anything, but it lines up perfectly with what you are saying.

Didn't mean to make this a blog though. This really shows what we are up against in the war against degeneracy.


I've always discounted hypnosis, do you think there is potential in it being used in a productive way with porn to, I don't know how else to say it, make men more normal?


More than half a year, way before nofap just from guilt as a teen.

There was no difference between that and paleobating except more wet dreams.

No, that would be perverse and disrespectful to beauty. I am pretty happy with the knowledge I could get laid but chose not to, but that means jack shit when fags will suck your dick for a quarter.

user, is there anything you really enjoy in life that isn't related to sex?

I enjoy cooking nice meals for my parents, listening to podcasts (TRS, Joe Rogan), going to the gym (4-5 days a week), gardening. I'm not sure I would include computers and wasting time online, but I've been doing that since the mid 90s. It is more to pass the time I guess and passed the time I have.

I think about sex all the time though.

There's a lot of baser 2d out there for people like us. There's a reason so much of furshit is gay, and part of it is because it captures the deeper themes without exploiting anyone and since its so alien you don't feel guilty for masturbating to a man.

I heavily recommend you stick to very mild stuff though. I personally don't look at anal if I can avoid it, I feel like it's a slippery slope to that horrifying prolapse stuff.

Stop listening to Joe Rogan and your life will improve 45%. I swear.

of course the damage is reversible, but it's not the same as hypnosis as it simultaneously imposes a suggestion on the listener and puts them in a state where they are open to that suggestion.
hypnosis just makes one open to suggestion, it requires a hypnotize to impose it. this shit is essentially easily accessible mass-hypnosis. it's dangerous shit.

top kek.

I really only listen to him when he has an interesting guest. I'm not a die hard gotta have my bulletproof coffee take nootropics and buy his shitty comedy shows sorta fan though.

I agree with the other user, he's an e-celeb that tells you things you want to hear so you keep listening. He has no interest in improving your life, or the lives of anyone aside from himself.

That's awesome, it really is. You sound like a good person. Have you ever looked into getting a job in the food industry? Learning to become a chef?

Jesus I keep reading these depressing and pathetic posts and I just noticed they're all from just one person - you.

I really enjoyed that webm you made, I was shocked when I noticed it was you. I thought for sure it was a sarcastic jab at chan culture. If you weren't such a pathetic loser you could make some pretty deep hitting stuff.

Saying these things to him won't change anything. Hate to be the pessimist, but any change that comes is totally on him.

That being said if anyone calls Killer Queen furshit I will never forgive them.

Is this a fetish analysis thread? That might actually be helpful. Can anyone explain why this picture is so effective? I feel like it can't just be avoidance because he's in no way feminine.

I've met plenty of people into anal and none of them ever developed a thing for prolapses.

i haven't gotten offbarring wet dreams and very shortly afterwards, with possibly one exception where i hadn't gotten out of bed yet since 2014, and I intend to never go to a porn sitein order to be aroused again

Over what time period? I don't want to turn 40 and then suddenly think "hey wouldn't it be neat if my colon were on the outside"

As it stands I have a mild aversion to butt stuff with men or women. It just seems like it takes way too much preparation to be a smart thing to do and I've rarely seen any IRL porn where it looks comfortable.

It is also disgusting as fuck. Better to just get a beej.

I did a one day trial in a kitchen and couldn't hack it. I enjoy cooking as hobby, but the thought of doing it on a commercial basis doesn't appeal to me. I have near zero work experience and I'm 34, so it is pretty much over for me at this point unless I work for myself. I'd like to go into business for myself but I really don't know what I'd do. That is really my only option, if I have any.

Yes, it is the same sad sorry state of a person. I was hopeful that by sharing some of my thoughts that other people who suffer from the same problems might weigh in with their own. Perhaps I am much further gone than them given I am a little older, but I fully expect there to be more people like me in the years ahead, especially once more channers leave their 20s and enter their 30s. That is when it really goes down hill.

I think prolapse and furries have weaknesses that are being exploited in a different manner. I've never seen either of those pop up in the type of content I consume (sissy, femdom) nor would it do anything for me. The attraction must be related to something else.

This. I can't into anal, because that's where poop comes from.


Maybe you could ask a friend of the family to teach you how to into business

I'm not even sure if we have family friends. I mean, my parents have friends but they don't spend time here.

I'm not sure I have the motivation or will power to see my own business through to success either for the simple fact that once both my parents die, I will be a millionaire neet instead of just a neet. It is a bit difficult to become motivated with that in mind.

Solid observations/posts OP. It's terrifying though, because not only is the source of failure stemming from ourselves, but society has heavy influence as well. Why should man do any of these things when potential women are all trash? Why should we not give ourselves instant pleasure when there is no long term investment that's much better? There's a spiritual war here as much as there is a genetic (r/K theory) or one of dominance by force or coercion.

I think it would interesting to see if people from stable/strong families were more likely to not even bother with porn or stick to normal stuff VS people from broken families. Something tells me it would be a safe bet to bank on the broken families to be more degenerate. I can only hope that what the future holds for us is the best parts of our past. Anyone know what happened to practicing degenerates in Weimar Germany when the Nazis started purifying? Did they just silently step in line, die for their degeneracy, etc? I think it's miraculous how a generation of people could transform in such a way. When I see the shit that happens on tumblr, I can't imagine how these people would have handled something like Weimar to Nazi Germany.

Glad I'm not alone on this. I think I actually prefer hand stuff personally, because you never get teeth with hand stuff.


That reminds me of another reason I stick to furshit. Every time I wonder if real gay porn will do it for me, EVERY TIME. I go to the front page and one of the thumbnails is something inhuman being done and the rest look like walking AIDS repositories.

Getting big muscles won't stop anything, dumbass. Fags love big muscles on men. There's a whole gay subculture around it. The professional bodybuilding community is also full of homos. Women don't even find overly muscular guys attractive either. Yes, exercise, but don't pretend it's some kind of magical solution to fix all your problems.

This shit is right up there with "just b u r self".

Well that didn't take long for you marketers to fuck the place up.

How many men think vaginas are fucking gross?

Good thing I never liked roast beef in the first place.

More like rotten crab pate.

Interesting read OP. Would subscribe to your newsletter.

I want to add to this somehow, but it covers everything nicely.

I would to ask, like, what about hermaphrodites? Would putting your dick into her vag and playing with her penis also count as degeneracy? I doubt there's porn of it because of how rare they are. But hypothetically speaking?

The only ones that aesthetically pleasing are ones that don't have the labia protrude excessively from the vulva. The beefcurtains that many women possess are not arousing in the slightest, much less attractive.

Mind you that this is only for women that are not married and haven't given birth. Passing what is a football with legs isn't going to do any affiliated part of the body favors.

Unless you never changed your mind about anything, you may in retrospection see why you ought to listen to those better than yourself.


I will turn this back on you with:


Authority should be accepted where it is beneficial, as authority figure can also be dysfunctional. Such as your imaginary king.

I understand the importance of,as a man, respecting your own rights to pleasure more than anything else, but I think there's been a failure to explain the benefits of working to pleasure the female, as her reactions help to increase your own pleasure in a cyclical manner. The more powerful the reactions, the better.

It depends on a couple things. Even only fapping once a day will kill your sex drive. If a real life relationship is what you want then you're never going to have the drive to pursue girls since your mind thinks you already have your 2d waifu to drain your balls.

Second thing is to try to get yourself off the lewd pictures if you have them. The one you posted is alright, looking at a cute face or a nice ass is fine in moderation, but as most people have said earlier in the thread anything depicting sex is not good for you. But really what you should be worried about is if its affecting your life. I found the right balance for me by gradually deleting all the most lewd pictures of waifu and cutting out the fapping to the point where i only fap 3-4 times a week and deleted all the sex pictures of my waifu.

Obligatory content to this thread.

Saved. Being a 'sissy' is just a coping mechanism. That's also why when pressured/triggered the sissy and cuckold and anti-women shitposters goes full retard - without their "fetish" they would have to cope with the truth of the matter: they're failures in life and they're not even trying to better themselves.

10/10 thread

retarded. opinion discarded.

Just tell yourself that you'll do it whenever you want but only when you actually want to. That should lower the frequency to normal levels without making yourself anxious thinking about it. If you're actually addicted then that's an issue because addictions can't be cured. You can only stop completely. If you ever do the thing you're addicted to you won't be able to stop without going overboard like a normal person.

3 and the rest of the fags too.
So that's about 2% of the population, and 3.

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Kill yourself you nogains faggot

Do you guys actually think this was good? Why is that? I was trying to show how I actually think among the degeneracy that I live in and consist of, the gymnastics of a sick mind that rationalises degenerate behaviour so that I don't feel bad about it in the moment otherwise it'd kill the feelings of relief it brings.

So fucked up fetishes can be gotten rid of entirely, right?

How long abstaining from porn will this take?

I'm not so sure they can be gotten rid of if you have arms reach access to a computer. If you have the willpower to come back from it, you likely would never have fallen victim to this poison in the first place.

The more I think of it, the more I believe innawoods is the only place respite can be found.

You just bashed the head in on my last remaining shred of insecurity with a crowbar and murdered its entire family.

Sincerely: Thank You.

t. Anonymous

Clearly these people need to be roped, but I don't know what is the meaning of what is being said by the voiceover.

Sounds like your average "guided meditation" track, though I do get a vaguely apocalyptic feeling from that webm. Might as well be watching an ebola outbreak at a kindergarden..

Still, that shit made my day lel

Your authority fetish is just as bad as this cuckold shit. Sounds like a shill who came to override this thread with the caste system and never question your masters goyim.

As a recovering drug addict I find the similarities between drug habits and porn habits stunning. Not only do they affect your brain functions in much the same way. The effects on your social capabilities, self esteem and self image are quite comparable. As with drugs the consumption of unhealthy pornography seems to be strongly linked to deficiencies in emotional self regulation.

Thanks for your work, OP!

Really?

This sounds like Jewish society. Circumcision is the next step in their masterplan.

First you get cucked. Then you get cut.

When Hillary gets in, the cuntocrcy is going to go into overdrive.

Women want a male that takes care of them and makes decisions for them. Today a lot of the shit you see in the media is about justifiying being a beta faggot. Women have fine tuned algorithms that determine if you are fit for breeding or not.
Most of the shit you see today will put them off, they want money resources and power from the man. Beta cucks cannot provide that so they take what comes close to that. Do not fall into the shit the media is promoting, that is the total opposite and only serves the purpose of their agenda.
See a boobcarrier and take the boobcarrier because the boobcarrier wants to be dominated.
What you see in psychology today is tailored to a certain audience, mainly middle class faggots. I would call that the biostore principle, if you have money you can buy the biostore products, if you dont that you cannot afford them.
Most of the shit today is jewed, means it is distorted and dedicated to a certain goal. That is why you see those faggots taking in every fucking dick they see. Like mass immigration, taking away your wealth and trying to bend your mind into a certain direction to accept their subhuman determination.
Kill those motherfuckers, kill their ideology kill everything they stand for, take away their money take away their women and if they do not follow suit kill them again.
All bundaries are gone, now it is time to establish yourself without any mercy. Do not make the mistake and think they act on your interests, the only one that can act on your interests is yourself. Extort them, threaten them and if they do not obey kill them all.

Ihr kleinen missgeburten habt verloren und wenn ihr mir nicht gebt was ich will dann komm ich zu euch nach hause ihr widerlichen abartigen fehler.

I do watch porn, a lot of it at that. I won't say it has no effect, in fact I do think it does make it hard to be as energetic and concentrated on being productive and improving myself, but the lack of it causes the same and I am sure the feeling of lacking is going to remain even after the initial period of "getting off the drug." I am not particularly fascinated by different fetishes, basically they are all equally normal at this point, I guess. Other than furry/scat/gore-like shit, they are a big no-no. After getting maybe a little bored with 2D (I have never been obsessed about waifus and stupid stuff like that) in the last two or so years I have come back a lot more to normal porn, probably mostly because of the sound, but honestly I would prefer if I could contain it to 2D, I like fapping to the same things a lot too. My favourite fetish would be milfs, but the 2D only, because their bodies are a lot cleaner than a 3D one. A lot of nice proportions out there. But I don't really like it much when it is with adult men, but teenagers and even younger. I don't think it is about seeing the adult as a threat, they are usually ugly and rapey, while the teenager-kid ones would be what is described as "vanilla." I don't have a particular interest in the boys, though. In fact maybe by them being smaller it leaves that much more of the woman in the picture.

All things said I don't think it has particularly fucked the way I look and think of women if anything I would say not feeling horny around them probably does help me to not make mistakes, though it is not I like don't imagine fucking some of them. But there is a clear difference of how horny I feel outside and at home which probably has come with masturbating too much, which can of course be done only at home. On the other hand my perception of females has been fucked from the start. My parents got divorced when I was at an early age and I don't actually know my father. I have seen him a few times, but the last one was when I was in first grade. So it has been between being "raised" by my mother and grandmother, which would always fight and then being in the middle of my mother's shitty relationship with complete losers. So I am completely turned off the idea of getting into a relationship that could have fights often, so I am looking only for things that could last longer, but I don't really find any women to fit my standards enough to decide to go out with them, maybe there is no such point for me, but I hope it is not like that. Yes, I am a 20-something old virgin, but I don't really think of it as much a problem and I can communicate with women just fine, but it is hard to see any of them as possible partners and I don't want go with someone to just fuck. Currently I am also at an important point of my life where I am struggling to stop being so lazy, yet I don't want my hobbies to suffer, though they are not the problem of my lack of time, lasting time only image boarders and youtube is what makes me waste time. I admit it is not going all good, but there is progressed. I always have believed that having a nice women in my life would be a great motivation to improve my life, but not only I can't find one to my standards, but I do feel like I don't have enough time to justify getting into a relationship right now. Chances are that after finishing studying I will move out, so I don't want to also start a relationship that might end next year (or two maximum), which might sound very retarded. The only complex (something I feel negative about myself) is being poor and that does translate to my capabilities of what I can currently do in a relationship with a woman, which is also a little silly because I am a "home" man and the best experience I can imagine is doing together something at home. I think I had something else to mention, but I forgot what. I might add something later. And let me repeat this, I can communicate with women normally, but I rarely engaging in anything playful with them, though from experience I know I successfully can be quite charming, but it has been only something like one-day test runs that I don't want to end with sex or a relationship anyway. I believe it is thanks to my how much I tend to observe humans and think about their behaviour. Last time I did an IQ test it was 138, so I guess it is both helping me in being charming when I want to, but also being autistic in the sense that I don't get very impressed by humans. As I said earlier I do wish to do more self-improving, though it is hard, because I certainly don't like my current state.

Of course I am talking from personal experience only and I know there are plenty of people that are more socially retarded even than me or are just weaker against things porn to begin with, but I think growing up in a fucked up environment and the overall lack of tradition and restrain in our society is playing way bigger role than porn.

Sorry for me ESL, after writing all of this I can't be bothered to check it.

His wife and 'daughter' look like traps. He is trolling the right. He even pushed for Tranny bathrooms.

Bet on Hillary!

I probably should have added that in a relationship I think the mutual respect is very important, but not respect by today's silly standards, but actually being strong individuals and I do expect all of it to fall on my, which I have no problem with. A little contradicting considering my standards are for sure high, too high probably. I do expect that I will have to manipulate the status quo of the relationship basically acting like a big daddy that doesn't allow for any silly bullshit. I will put down the rules of the relationship from the very start with making clear what the punishment of silly, bitchy and other negative behaviours will be. With very limited forgiving, I want to say none but there are some stuff would be silly to go too far because of. I would never raise my voice more than the necessary and definitely not more than the other side. Being calm and level helped when the other is not is a strong sign of being the superior one and the more dependant in the relationship, something that wins a lot of the needed respect and from their the daddy figure that guides you and cuts down your mischievous behaviour. It might be a little silly for a virgin to say all that, but I do believe in and that it is an important part of relationships that modern men especially will have to learn if we want society to get any better.

I've posted this essay on my website, OP. westcoastrxers.com/2016/05/08/anonymous-on-the-effects-of-pornography/

If you would like it attributed to a name or whatever else, just ask.

The 1980s were hardly a paragon of sexual purity and people who were alive then ALSO have many of these problems, so I'm not sure what this is supposed to show.

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As others have stated, don't go back and ever watch another video of the like again. I was curious just like you when I first heard about the fetish. At first I thought the whole thing was a joke and interesting, but I went back for one more video… again and again. Being redpilled doesn't really help, but the fetish hits one on a more primal level instead.

I honestly think the cuck meme is a double edge sword. Every curious man who constantly sees it used, or uses it will become curious about what cuckoldry really is, and why it is a thing leading them to eventually jacking off to fucked up shit.

It really is, and it probably fucks up a lot of people's minds. No one should even consider watching this unless they are top-tier redpill and can disassociate themselves, but even that can only do so much. As I stated, it was mostly about just "enjoying the decline" for a moment before coming back to my senses. Oh, and this is a huge subculture with most of the videos having 100k-1.5million views. It is a cancer spreading to young white males, and it is almost only white males watching this.

Idk how to stop it except on an individual level. There is a reletively new and positive hypno channel on pornhub called "Reverse Hypnosis" where the creator makes videos about how women love and want you. So, watch that content a time or two if you need to cleanse your mind of the subject. It might also be the way to bring the people away from the degenercy.

Judging by that guys channel, it's a marketer building an email list. Go check out his website, it's a typical landing page designed to capture your details.

Not saying his videos won't work, but that his goal here is likely to market products to you once he has your details.

Probably the same jew who created this stuff to begin with and thought hey, maybe I can charge the goy a second time.

Every time I think of a solution, it always comes down to this thought process:

"The enemy went that far. I want to resolve this conflict with logic and reason, but now it looks like a race to the bottom. Is the only way to counter the brainwashing with even more brainwashing? That is, this is information warfare after all. People now see the traditional lifestyle as too "vanilla". Do I have to come up with ways to make the "vanilla" more seductive than the degeneracy? Is that even possible?"

I've been pondering this a lot. It's hard to figure out.

I second this question. OP, thoughts?

well if you actually do have to do this, just imagine things up instead of being a degenerate. im not talking some weird jap fantasy, i mean traditional, straight, etc.

i kind of dont like doing this nofap thing either but it is 100% neccessary to be masculine.

Only subhumans like Africans or Arabs. Europeans retained their masculine essence and seed.

Well, you don't have to go to his website - I never have. The videos are good from what I've seen - though he does slide in a interracial scene a time or two throughout his videos. The videos don't have the professional psyop quality to them like the interracial ones do, but I wouldn't put it past them. I never thought of the possiblity of them playing both sides, but damn that's the trade mark of the juden.

If the degeneracy is never stopped then eventually a traditional and vanilla relationship will eventually become taboo. The creampie is an interesting modern fetish, because it is now taboo and rare in modern life, but it used to be a common result of sex and unfetishized.

I mean, I can see how vanilla traditional relationships could be fetishized with ideas such as "someone only for yourself," "no other woman can compare," "she only wants your superior seed," and etc. In a way, this waifu garbage is a longing and lust for a traditional vanilla relationship now that I think about it.These people aren't deranged monsters, they just want a loving and caring relationship that only a traditional relationship can offer.

I figured that's what at's the core of the waifu stuff, so I don't feel like bashing it when there are far more worse things that need to be bashed but are ignored because of the fear of speaking out against those things. That is a good angle to take on vanilla. I think I get it.

Love and supportive relationships have become rare enough to become out-of-norm and fetish fuel. I'm completely serious. It's a good string to tug on for women, and more-and-more commonly men as well.

They may not use traditional hypnosis, but they use something similar.

When people run in a tight formation a trance is also induced. Add some propagandist songs with a particular pacing, plus a little sleep deprivation, a pinch of runner's high and you got the same effect through different means. With this method they can easily drill large groups of people, while working on their physical conditioning, without getting the panties of liberals and Christians in a twist.

NLP has some overlap with the aforementioned techniques, and a lot of people in the media, legal world and civil service are trained in it's use. Some people think the emperor picked up a thing or two about NLP from Tony Robbins or otherwise. In medicine hypnosis is also used on certain occasions, when the use of anesthetics isn't possible.

All these things may be based, to a large extent, on suggestion, but suggestion is powerful when the subject is in a suggestible state, the message is accompanied by strong stimuli, and it gets repeated frequently.

Friends of Putin also seem to disagree that hypnotic techniques have no applicability outside of the more degenerate sectors of society.

That confirms my feelings towards this. I'm going to look back at Mysterious Girlfriend X and start from there in planning to create trends. It's been a long time since I last saw it anyways. I feel like forgetfulness in an age of overwhelming information can also make you lose sight of traditional ideals, unfortunately.

Do you mean gays? Mgtows? Women getting treated like shit?


And I thought it was just effective if you didn't realize the purpose.

I watched snippets (because I know that's not something that interests me in the slightest). I had headphones on. I don't know about binaural beats or anything but it had some wierd tonal shit going on.

It is interesting you mention getting off on the idea of a man harming another man rather than yourself as a woman harming a man.

It lends credence to the theories about women's ideal of engaging in violence by proxy. It suggests that women would rather have influence over a violent man to commit violence on her behalf rather than do it herself.

Those two horny chicks who aren't true lesbians anyway[0] begin to make out and do their foreplay, while you either look at them - what you are doing right now - or do something else, like finishplaying vidya. Then off you go and fuck them hard, each after another. Maybe twice. Each.

Is it that hard?


[0] You never ever want to watch true Lesbian porn, by them, for them. Never.

Can confirm. I have seen people say they have a "vanilla fetish" and what really gets them is loving and supportive women who are loyal to their man.

It's funny because these people are routinely made fun of by more degenerate fetishists. Called plebeians, called boring, called spineless for not enjoying their cuckold fetish or not getting off to someone being degraded.

If they (women) and (((they))) want that, they can all have it.

But remember: There are nuclear power stations with radiating poles waiting to blow up, if you fuck up white society too fast. There are tons of problems which blacks never will address and never will be able to address.

I hope China will just exterminate everyone being darker than café-au-lait. Meh, make that South Chinese.

Waifuism is basically the same thing as saying "tfw no gf," but the male saying it has an idol he directs his longing towards. I believe that waifuism is at its core a coping mechanism for men who would really like to have a traditional 'vanilla' relationship but haven't had that opportunity for whatever reason.
There is an unhealthy element, like becoming obsessed with the idol or even swearing off real women to be 'loyal' to the fictional person. But that is easily cured by a real woman entering his life.

It's still important to realize that shit has no actual power over you. Yes binaural beats contain some trance and suggestion yadda yadda, but it can't actually reprogram your brain, just fuck with its chemistry a bit.

This seems to be the harsher part about people who go into hypnosis videos - they still think the effect is real, and thus it becomes a game of not thinking about pink elephants.

Everytime they're not thinking about pink elephants, they think about pink elephants, and thus think that's evidence that they're past a point of no return. Don't fall for it.

I think most of the men have a very high potency, but do not dare to say anything about it. Kind of like women fart too, you know. Because the inevitable nag-nag from women will follow, that they aren't enough, men are animals etc. But everybody who "talked under influence" admitted to me that it takes only an hour or two and boner visits again, if wanted, even after a totally exhausting and deeply satisfying fun time.
Women have this resetting monthly cycle where the red tide tweaks down all urges. Imho this explains why there aren't as many women having those problems.

Sexual drive can be diverted into building stuff or achievements. But when the computer is the source of the problem, doing a MOOC is a recipe for disaster.

Can confirm.
The refractory period is surprisingly short. I can be ready to go again in 10 minutes.

The only porn videos I like to watch are amateur-taped creampie (pussy, no ass). White/white only. You can't believe how hard it is to find 10-15 non-fat, white/white, no ass, amateur creampie fuck videos out of a library of 100,000+ videos!

We seriously need to start a Holla Forums-porn site. Mild degeneracy, always in-race and jizz in the right hole without a condom. Should not look "studio."

So am I the exception to the rule?

You and I are the same. We're the porn industry rejects.

Yeah, to the point "women" aged 12 to 32 read massively, literal tons of manga about relationships. It already is being used for profit.

iktf

we're not the exception, we're the loathed majority

What I was trying to say is more that fapping any more then once a day can get rid of your drive to want to fuck a real girl, at least thats how it is for me and a lot of people I've talked to to. You're right that you can be ready to go again after only a couple minutes but at least for me if I fap too much my body thinks my sexual needs are already being taken care of.

The right balance seems to be 3-4 times a week, any less you become a thirsty and horny idiot who permeates an aura of neediness around any hot girl, any more and you don't want to put up with any of the bullshit that comes with modern women because your porn at home does the job without any of the hassle.

Ah, yeah, you have a point there.
I'm friends with several chronic masturbators (ie at least once a day, often twice) and none of us has a girlfriend, nor have dated in years.

While we all share the sentiment that relationships aren't worth it at the point we are in our lives, there is an undertone of loneliness in our conversations. I've even been pulled aside more than once by a good friend of mine who asked me what the point of it all was and why he should bother to go on.

Maybe maintaining a sex drive, not taken care of by your own hand, is part of what keeps men going. I don't think they'll listen to that, though.

Yeah I used to be the same way until only a little while ago. Fapping 2-3+ times a day and being a waifu fag (tbh I still am a bit, it actually does help me to not become depressed and I never really fapped to pictures of her). I'm still a virgin and never had an actual girlfriend, but I went on a few dates that went pretty well. I proved to myself that I could get a girlfriend if i wanted and I wasn't just some hopeless neckbeard and that's all I really wanted to prove to myself until I'm ready to look for a long term partner.

It's a shame that the idea that "it's a healthy and natural thing to masturbate" became so prevalent. At this point probably 90%+ of guys are addicted to porn and fapping. I read some posts from reddit a while back where some guys said they can't even get it up during sex because they've been masturbating for so long. I wish that i could give better advice to your friends but unless they listen, they will have probably to go through the same struggle with loneliness and degenerate fetishes until they see the truth since its such a big part of pretty much all communities these days, you can't really escape porn anwyhere.

I appreciate you trying to help, but in my case, porn is a symptom.
I have anhedonia, always had it, so nothing can please me.
This makes me mentally weak, makes everything feel like a dream, like there's lag between my orders and what happens around me.
Now every time I try to get close to a woman the pandora's box is opened. I lose all drive the one second, then get a surge of energy the other.
It's a spiral downwards.
And that's why I don't get girls. Without joy, there's no drive to do anything, nothing pushes you forward.
The wizardry seems to run in my family. My father had to be set up with my mother for him to get any action, and he was a real man. His brother was an almost eternal bachelor, too.

I know you like to shift all blame upon man because you love women, but hypergamy doesn't help either. Women expect you to be top tier, and that's just not possible for people like me. So I'm destined to become a wizard.

Have you gotten your hormone levels checked? Not just sex hormones but things like thyroid too?

What is this "video" everyone keeps talking about?

Wtf???

It was named in a post, nothing was linked.
Don't look it, spare yourself that evil. You don't need to see it.

These things are meant to arouse cuckolds by flaring up your sense of disgust. The problem is you surrendered to submission, your rage is impotent and you know it. That's why you like BBC porn fucking pure innocent bla bla white princess daddy's girl yadda yadda.

It's a punishment from you to you.

You really just have to remember most women that do engage in interracial sex are either broken goods - sex addicts, etc - or fat landwhales. Very rarely do actually cute girls do that shit.

xvideos
/the_white_goddess_you_can_never_please_by_lilbeni

I don't know, man. This shit just made me laugh.

What gets to me is seeing blonde jailbait with arabs.

Blacks for some reason I don't care as much, I always assume the chick is some wannabe ghetto chick.

But white women with arabs strikes me as submission because the arab is more civilized than the african.

The thing is it still gets to you when it shouldn't.

You need to convince yourself that only "shit" women engage in interracial relationships when it isn't true. If it were true, no one would give a fuck.

But many good women, with good relationship with their fathers, some of them wife material and so on still date outside of their race.

A lot of the times not because they have a preference for non-whites, but because non-whites are relentless in their approach. They intimidate women, they understand that women are aroused by fear, that the sense of wanting to sexually please a man who can hurt you (and protect you) is too strong for them to cope with.

As this user said, the real freedom from this form of cuckery is to simply not let it bother you.
Yes, it sounds like leftist thought. But understand that the grounds of this fetish is insecurity, as stated in the OP. It works by feeding on your insecurity - that women are choosing someone other than you, in this case because they're a different race.

That is not what is happening. Don't worry about what random women you will never meet are doing. Worry about improving yourself and building a version of yourself that attracts women. And then you won't give a shit what Tyrone or Achmed are doing to random bitches.

Very rarely, in rdiculously small numbers, only if they're brainwashed by leftist propaganda and they usually regret it afterwards.

I do agree any that are exceptions to all are simply because of aggressiveness, but it's such a small number it might as well be non-existent.

The amount of women I've seen say "Well, I'm not racist, buuuut I don't find black guys very attractive…" is huge.

Not working faggot

My experiences with porn definitely resonate with the patterns that OP has observed. I started with internet porn when I was around 15-16 years old. Lesbian porn was mind blowing to me back then, it really seemed too good to be true. Fast forward 10 years and I have no interest in it. The slippery slope is real, but I haven't gone as far down the rabbit hole as a lot of the other posters in this thread. There are some things that my pride won't allow me to get into.

My main reason for posting is to try to address the associated lack of masculinity in my day to day life, which other anons might be able to relate to. It has dawned on me that I have no agency. I have no real strong desires or purpose of my own. I do as I am told and follow the rules that I know will keep me safe. I went to university because it was what I was supposed to do. I kind of fell into my career, I didn't choose it as such. I have no plans or strong feelings on how to progress my career. I always did really well in school and I got a real kick out of being the best and meeting expectations. Socially, I am completely reactive and non-assertive. I have a few friends, but the relationship is completely sustained by their desire to keep it alive. I never host social gatherings or have ideas for potential social occasions. Rejection is one of my greatest fears.I have a good sense of humor and I like making people laugh and fear confrontation. This trait is more pronounced in the relationships I've had with females. I am preoccupied with pleasing them and giving them pleasure. My selection criteria is fucked by this as well. I hardly ever see a girl that I think that I'd love to be with or that really arouses me. However, if I even think that a girl is interested in me then I become obsessed with her. There's this pathological necessity within me to please people, which I have only begun to fully recognize and it's very concerning. I believe that it is partly the desire to please people and also the fear of fucking things up and failing.

I apologize for the blog-tier posting, but I think that porn's just a symptom/crutch that perpetuates a deeper, more ingrained set of behaviors for me. I now know that if I carry on this way, I'm going to be fucked. This kind of mindset is repellent to healthy women and I'm never likely to achieve anything worthwhile with this risk avoiding approach to life. Lifting, exercising and eating clean will get me so far, but there are psychological hurdles that I need to get over. How do I teach myself to know what my true desires are? How do I stop caring about what people think about me? How do I learn to socialize properly without producing spaghetti like mamma used to make?

Can anyone else relate to this?

Porn took me from a kid who'd blush around pretty girls to taking it in a gay bathhouse on a regular basis.

It's the desire, nay - the determination to work on and improve himself that separates a true Holla Forumsack from the great unwashed. You have advanced greatly, my friend.

Whoops, meant to reply to

37 y/o user here. can relate to your circumstances. haven't been in any kind of school for 8 years. haven't been employed for a decade. landed a job once a few years back but didn't last a day. haven't been even close to dating in almost 10 years.

spend my days compulsively checking the internet for happenings or shit to be angry about, playing video games, listening to podcasts, or fapping to porn. used to be hardcore addicted to vidya, but even became disillusioned with that and when I gave up on my "gaming career", I pretty had no more "friends".

I too live with my parents, cooking meals for them (gotten pretty good at it) and i used to garden a lot.

dunno if you mentioned how you are with booze or drugs, but i had that going on too and for me at around 35 it started fucking with my health.. like.. just randomly all the sudden… and i realized how people O.D. Shit is scary. But it landed me in the nut hut for a few days and from there i got a free doctor and now a year later i scored a gym membership so… I'm ready to turn things around.

Done with porn and video games and drugs. I'd like to help others here if i can.

How do I stop pron. I want it gone for good.

I stopped once for about 6 months, sometimes I go a week or so without it, I went 6 weeks no-fap at the start of the year.

Help me Sybok

>next day, get up at an early time for me, shower, get to TAFE
It's only been one day. Could it just be a placebo? I suppose it doesn't matter. Works either way.

I too am pretty much done with vidya, not much of it holds my attention these days but I don't know whether it's because they're all shit or simply because I've seen every gimmick over the years and everything is just rehashed.

I'm sober, but I have had periods of heavy drinking over the years, but it's not really my thing. When I was in my mid 20s, I use to smoke weed every day but I ended up giving that up because it fucked with my head too much and I ended up in a psychiatric hospital for a few days.

I have removed shitty food, weed and alcohol from my life, exercise on the reg and am in good shape for my age. Something about porn though, I just can't quit it and tbh I'm not even sure I want to do so, sissy stuff is just a huge escape for me.

After seeing this thread yesterday, I haven't fapped either. Let's see where this goes.

You don't have to nofap, just don't jerk off literally every day. As has been said in this thread, the sweet spot is something like 3-4 times a week.
If you do it once a day or more, you'll feel lethargic, lazy and tired all the time.
If you swear off it completely though you'll get sexually frustrated and everything will piss you off.

Have you guys noticed that Cucked betas are being promoted as the "Popular" type of male?

Seriously, it's wild…

Vid related, an interesting song.

Vid related also… a song about faking masculinity to get laid.

...

Biggest problem for me is when I get horny, I completely stop caring about my reasons for not wanting to fap. It's like I become a different person.

That kind of emotional porn can be poisonous for women too, since it builds up an ideal male partner in their minds that reality can never satisfy.

you are being posessed

My fetish is lactophilia. I watch videos of women releasing streams of milk from their breasts and I masturbate vigorously to the thought of sucking on thick, lactating nipples. For a while now though, just as you describe, I've frequently found myself slipping momentarily into the thought of being the woman however I was always deeply afraid of allowing myself to dwell on those thoughts because I felt like I was going to fuck myself up and do something dangerous to my mind.

How cucked am I?

how do i stop it happening

Not if you're fucking the other woman, too.

Needed to see this thread today to keep me motivated. Not that the overarching solution is in nofap but I feel as though this is a step in the right direction, and I can definitely use a break. Also, my tastes in fapping were on such a decline toward degeneracy that I have to arrest them now or else be at risk of 1.) causing lasting bodily harm, 2.) being discovered/revealed or otherwise having my fap/fantasy life spill over into IRL interactions with folks, 3.) further frivolous expenditures on shit like fleshbots, or 4.) the things OP talked about in regard to the effect of fapping on the male psyche.

God has really blessed me.

No, your agenda for nofap was the best one. Masturbating every day makes your faps lame as hell anyway.
And if you're not blowing your load all the time, of course you'll suddenly take an interest in women. Your body wants an outlet for sexual release - it might as well be a woman.

I think the reason a lot of guys think it's okay to just masturbate to porn and not pursue women is because they feel they can't get a woman anyway. Because of money, or looks, or whatever, they feel that their efforts would be in vain so they take on a defeatist notion of just giving up all hope.

That's my experience, anyway. I know there's no place in my life for a woman right now. But if I can fix things, then maybe I'll start looking.

lol lightweight

I used to have 1TB of Japanese porn all properly named and organised alongside JPGs of the DVD covers so I would know what they were when I browsed through to fap to something. Deleted it all years ago though.

but user, thats the perfect reason to do nofap.
forcing yourself to stop jacking will never work in the long run, the want to stop has to be real and over time that want will dissipate entirely the more sporadic your faps get.

I don't even watch porn anymore.

My imagination is more than sufficient for my purposes.

That is unfortunately true for some of us. And it's not simple defeatism. Admittingly I live in a city full of niggers, and what few white women there are, are obese, drug addicts, or coal burners. Often a combination of the 3. What few decent white women are left have simply rejected me when I've approached them.

Makes me wonder if it would be different anywhere else though.

I am sure jews did this to you, poor white one.

No-one is saying that you fucking idiot. Clearly we're responsible for our own mess, but it wasn't without some help along the way.

I'm sorry to hear that. You should put effort into going somewhere else and trying to find a more palatable community.

I also live in a shithole, and right now my life's goal is to move somewhere else. I can't do much until I do that.

I wish you the best of luck user.

I know I'm not alone though, most my friends are single without children. And we're getting close to our thirties. Shit like this is really unprecedented. Never in history have so many white men been completely alone.

I've personally given up on any chance for a better tomorrow or happiness and my entire raison d'etre is revenge on the ones that made the world this way.

If I'm to be damned then I'm dragging them to hell with me.

Nice analysis, but I feel you missed a core point of autogynephilia.

Watching women enjoy themselves would imply that the man becomes sexually aroused by female arousal. It also implies that these men are able to become aroused not by the thought of sex and the pleasure it brings to oneself, but rather others.

You can claim heir to male-dominated sex, but that would in fact be selfish sex. This because the goal is male sexual satisfaction, rather than mutual pleasure. Which makes me think you're a virgin that never even had a stable relationship

This is even worse because it teaches men to be promiscuous rather than investing in their sexual partner and her happiness.

Also you sexual deviance stereotypes on power play and BDSM are completely backwards. Most BDSM and subjugation fetishist men are those in powerful positions. That is also why the dominatrix is a woman, BDSM is all merely a role reversal.

This gives me hope. I do not know if I could bring myself to shift-delete my porn folder right away. I think instead what I'll do is move it to an HDD I don't generally connect to my PC but keep in storage, then maybe delete the folder after some time's passed and I realize I can live without it. I hate the thought of losing all those videos I downloaded from sites like xvideos. They are hard to locate by keyword searches and are subject to removal.

Thanks


Where & how did you approach the decent-looking women? Just wanting to find out what works and what doesn't.

If she seemed friendly/interested I'd stop and have a conversation, few jokes etc. Then I'd finish with just asking for their number or if they'd like to grab a drink some time.

The answer is always "no" or "I have a boyfriend already".

Doubt that helps but there you go.

My partner prefers dickgirls/futas over other types of porn or using his imagination. He is trying to force me into enjoying his likes too claiming i'm not tolerant to his likes and even proclaiming it's straighter than vanilla porn. What do?

Dump him.

Thing is I managed to convince him it's gay but now he's reverted back to his old self putting up some shitty counter-arguments. Fucking sucks.

Your boyfriend wants to suck dick.

If he admitted it's a problem and decided to start doing something about it to fix his brain so he don't like that shit, maybe you could stay with him. But sounds like he wants to suck dick and sees nothing wrong with it so there's nothing you can do. Dump him.

Should I link him this post? Because I am a bit submissive and would prefer to not argue about this but I don't want my partner become another faggot. I already redpilled him in the first place, just need to sort his sexuality out.

Sounds like he's also being led around by you. Just dump him.

Do you want the father of your children to suck dick? Should your children have a father that wants to put a dick in mouth and arse and get cum on his face? Just dump him immediately.

Well hello there op. I am pressed for time and only read the first two of your posts but i wanted to share some of my experiences. I am a 22 year old networking student amerifat from a northern state. 6 foot tall and around 270 pounds. Fat yes, but not necessarily horrid.

Now onto business. Over the past 4 or 5 years I to have stopped the consumption of most hetero porn and gone to mostly girl on girl action. Originally it was out of a disinterest in seeing a man on screen eventually however I became displeased with the amount of fake and staged lesbian porn available on the Internet. Videos became predictable and I lost satisfaction with normal women in general: descending into the relm of 2d women.

Unlike the gradient you outlined in your post I was never into traps and in all honesty find actual transsexuals, cross, and trap abhorrent and disgusting. however I have developed a serious fetish for 2d dick girls related imagery and hentai. The ability for the artist to draw a relatively attractive women with a cock that does not suffer from the other drawbacks of having large amounts of testosterone. ( tranny face ect. ) and then have them fuck another women is very arousing to me. It allows me to be attracted to both participants and still the dynamic of a male|female interaction. I was wondering how op believes this fits into his framework. I know many other people who consume exclusively 2d porn and also have a fetish for girl on dick girl.

I know this fetish is pure degeneracy but I try to make up for it by educating myself on other pol related issues. I can't really help what gets my dick up and for right now that's what does it for me.

The sex drive is a powerful, intense thing. It's never good when a passion is stronger than yourself. I've been trying to understand how much is necessary for myself so that in my next relationships I can stop making the mistakes I did with my exes. Namely being overly "hungry" for sex, clouding my judgement and, I feel, degrading the women in part.

If any user has tried meditating during a testosterone peak from no-fap or soon after masturbating, you can really feel your mind being almost like under attack trying to get you to think about sex more and masturbate again and again. It's really debilitating and you understand what the paintings of monk's attacked by women/succubi could be about.

I don't understand you dipshits.

Yes, in fact you can really help what gets your dick up. How do you imagine you got into this shit in the first place? The more it goes on it should, by definition get worse. Will you just masturbate to dick girls until the end of time and not develop any other fetish? Since you've ridden on the slippery slope before, that's unlikely.

Masturbate less frequently. Don't watch/look at shit like that and when you masturbate don't fantasize about 2D futa. The only thing that is keeping you jacking to this shit is your own weakness, just like the only thing keeping you fat is your inability to eat less and less garbage. Control all your vices or you eventually succumb to all of them, because a chain brakes at the weakest link.

Her boyfriend wants to suck dick. Why the fuck shouldn't she dump him?

You need to let him know you're not comfortable with what he's doing and that he needs to stop. If he won't, it might be time to move on.
Yes, he needs help overcoming this sort of thing, but he sounds very reluctant to give it up.

Bullshit! Stop jerking off for a week and you'll gain a new appreciation for swimsuit catalogs.

Take some responsibility for your actions.

The slippery slope is real and he's trying to normalize and rationalize his own perversion. Asking him to take responsibility and change his own sexual fantasies will be seen as an attack on him, so if you want to change him (and you should, if the rest of him is worth it), do it slow and make it clear that he is not only hurting himself, but you and your future as well.

Best thing for you to try would be getting him completely off porn at all. If his sex drive isn't primarily hetero and realistic (as in real and actual women 1on1 with him) he is creating for himself abstract fetishes and perversion that will make it harder for him to have sex with you. Sex is just as much about pair-bonding as it is for reproduction. If on the "off-time" he isn't having sex with you, he's "charging his brain" to want to see women with dicks fucking, is it really impossible to argue that this WILL influence his "sex time" with you? Will he ask you to have a strap on? Will he want to do trannies?

Lesbian porn is so painfully fake. The novelty of it wears off very quickly when it becomes obvious that neither actually has a taste for women and is simply doing it for money.

The allure of 2D lesbian porn is the 'authenticity' of it. Artists are quite good at making a situation believable in a way that 3D actors seem unable to (because real life lesbians seem to be a rarity).
Where futa comes into play is giving you a vehicle to insert yourself into the situation. Not to fuck either person, but to understand what the two are feeling. Seeing two muffs rub together or watching girls eat one another out, that doesn't have the same allure to you. You don't know what it feels like to have a vagina stimulated, you do not have one.
However, seeing a penis inserted into something, that is something your brain understands very well. Seeing it on an attractive woman, using it on another attractive woman, this gives your brain a way to 'relate' to the scenario and thus insert as the futa. It's even better because there's no male body in the scenario, just two attractive female bodies, and a penis going into a vagina. it is an arousal cocktail for your brain.

I don't think it's a difficult thing to give up, though, since it's essentially just putting another female body into a heterosexual situation.

i am terrorized by visions of big black dicks

help

Checked, very nice.

I haven't talked much about my own experiences - but basically, stop while you're ahead. The slippery slope isn't as sudden to some people - I started fapping at 12, only got to lesbians at 14 and went to 2D for eons like you, and only transitioned from futa to 2D traps at 17, then real traps at 18 and then all that horrid shit about sissy shit and cuckolding for a few weeks at 19.

I quit porn for the first time about there, made a few months, got back to hetero 2D porn and the slope happened AGAIN over the course of a couple months. Swore off the shit since.

Stop it while it's early, dude.


Pink elephants, man. Remember that shit is a myth to fuck you up, remember most women aren't coal burners and then just stop thinking about it. Go work, start a sport, distract yourself.

today? easy. don't look at it. delete your files or stick them on an (encrypted) external drive and leave it in a drawer.

long term, though? dunno, brosephus. never done it before. our friends who do nofap know some hacks, i would assume.

i have gone months sober in the past from booze and drugs… i've gone 90-days without sugar and lost a lot of weight.. so i've stuck with things in the past but porn and video games will require a new set of coping skills and new associates.


Ya i think you kinda have to want to quit before things change. I've met a lot of people who are in recovery for drugs and alcohol who go deep into porn and video games. They aren't the happiest critters, though.

When you just transition to something else that a really powerful dopamine demon, you're still enslaved. All the people I met who quit stuff and moved on to other hardcore vices because they "need something" always seemed miserable. like, they're just chomping at the bit. your life will get better in the short and mid-term when you quit porn or drugs or whatever, sure, but if you just gain a vidya, food, gambling, or sex addiction, you're not dealing with the underlying issue.. why do you need to stoke your consciousness with powerful stimulations in the first place? why do you *need* an escape?

If he believes his own bullshit (showing his porn interest to his gf and expecting her to be accepting of it), it could be an uphill battle. If he's open to counseling go for it.

90% of these anti porn studies are max. five years old. because the idiot female position in society is in danger. thus we need to do something against porn, because women need the support of men, because they are idiots and thus the powers that be can have their way with us. typical Holla Forums shilling. and no, nobody enages in feminization because of the fear not being able to please women. is this your problem? men being able to please women? the opposite is the problem.

but you're right they're still men. Spanish Conquistadors have worn skirts too.

Non issue. totally missing the problem, which is women.

MGTOW pls


It was spot on. So yes, it was that good. Will repost next time I'm arguing with some cuck pretending that it's all good.

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Similar shit here, open to any suggestions on how to get deepthroat gagging slave training vids out of my head. Just one quickie and then I'll call it quits…

1 year ago I quit fapping altogether, no fap, no porn. And the last year Ive had has been the most sexually active Ive had. I just feel so manly nowadays and see women in a healthy way and this reflects on how women see me. My alpha energy radiates from me and women line up to fuck me. Ive fucked women left and right, sometimes more than one in the same day. I get dopamine rush from knowing that I am dominating women, I like cumming into women, I like spreading my seed, I like being worshipped because I make women laugh, and come. I also have a big penis and I know some handy tricks to make women come very fast. I dont know how it is for you guys, but nowadays I can come inside a woman, and keep fucking her, no stops. I can come second time and still fucking continues. Last weekend I came into my women 3 times in a row ( took about 1 hour though ) and she came numerous times.

correction, last weekend I came into my _woman_, a single woman, not multiple

- samefag
Btw I tried exercise for a couple years as an outlet/alternative, but exercising didn't seem to improve my psyche. It felt very isolating, for one thing, since I could never get anybody to come workout with me. Also when I am in exercise phases then I am hungry a lot more (partly b/c I start watching what I eat, and limiting my snacks intake, even though I'm fairly skinny) and hunger makes me kinda irritable. *AND* for some reason exercising makes me feel REALLY horny, though I guess that could be taken as a positive or a negative since horniness could be directed toward healthy pursuit of women rather than masturbation/pornography.

Think I'll pick up exercise again and just be persistent in asking other guys to come with.

This has been a great thread op, and I can relate to everything you've said from pretty personal experience. It's been another bulwark in my life to get on the /nofap/ train.

Let me lay it out. I'm 33 and sex has been a part of my life since I was 4-molested by someone who was also molested. When I was 7 I was looking at the lingerie section of the Sears catalogue and jacking off to it, knowing exactly what I was doing. Hell, I remember the local owned game store started carrying anime and hentai and had a copy of La Blue Girl sitting on the shelf. I remember jacking it to just the cover though hentai would come much later in my life.

Fast forward and what OP has said is true. The brain seeks novelty and this is no different when it comes to porn. It's why all of us here have begun on some soft core stuff but all of us, every one of us, move into something harder and harder. But a tipping point finally came and I know that I have got to stop looking at porn. It is unhealthy and it has poisoned my mind in so many ways.

I won't even go into a list of fetishes that I've looked at and jacked it to but the truth is, I want to stop and the truth is I can stop. Thanks for this thread OP, we need to keep this info going because internet porn is a pox on our society and it needs to be shown as such.

So you have jerked off to trannies….
Very evil, you should be ashamed of yourself.
You need to be a real man. Working out, pleasing women, being a part of this wonderful society. That's your only reason you are here, to please others. It's great.

I detect a sense of sarcasm in your post user, to quote the lyrics from Grandpa Jones song "Falling Leaves"

"Some folks go through life and never thrill to the feeling that a good deed brings until it's too late and they are ready to lie down, there beneath that little grassy mound."

Pseudo-intellectual garbage.

Might is Right explained everything.

keep getting flashes of my waifu sucking a bbc while she has a big smile on her face and its giving me a boner but i want it to stop and it wont

wow Im so happy I never went that deep into cuckery

the images wont go away

stop brain

Enjoy your rebellious wife cucking you, faggot.

is this true? holy fugg

Well I definitely ended up funding the porn jew, but I was and still am convinced that penetrating something is much better than regular fap.
I guess I will throw it away after a while.It was too expensive to throw away immediately.

But a full stop on porn is really hard for me. Even when doing no fap for weeks I still watch images of naked women.
Truthfully I have tried a few times and failed at 24 days in.
The optimal for me would probably be a once a week fap.

A pretty good read overall OP. Thanks for the info.

Yes, but they won't emasculate themselves to admit it.

I just wanted to say that since I read this thread when it was submitted a few days ago I've gone from masturbating 1-3 times a day to not at all. I'm not sure if I'll be able to keep it up, but I'm damn sure going to try.

Thank you so much, OP. I mean it.

Sage for non-contribution.

Uuh OP but what about me wanting to tie up , silence and forcebly fuck women so badly ?

tl;dr, overcompensating maladjusted losers pretend they are big manly strong aryan ubermensch

You guys are a joke. Fucking PUA idiots.

i dont see how your post relates to this thread at all tbh

I've been on a really dark porn binge since things ended bad with my last qt in an attempt to forget how badly I miss fugging her.

Like degenerate roman emperor tier shit.

This thread has been a bitter little redpill to swallow.

/thread

this might be a decent shitpost if it had anything at all to do with what the thread is talking about

wish i never found this thread

i had succesfully avoided cuck shit for like two weeks and only masturbated like once or twice a day and only to regular porn or even just pictures of fully clothed women

for me this was huge as id never been able to go even one day on nofap before and a couple times i did see cuck shit or even trannies, i just clicked away from it and moved on. wasnt even tempted.

then i find this thread and read the posts and i cant stop thinking about it and end up giving in

sorry op the information is good but it fucked me

the way to do it for me seems to be not to resist temptation but to avoid it all together and just remove it from your life, even threads like these that make me think about it.

i will just have to try again

if i keep trying i will eventually succeed, it is inevitable

NEVER GIVE UP

i will bump this

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HELP ME

Fuck no, you have deep seeded self esteem issues that you have failed to address with shitty degenerate cooping mechanism. You are pretty much scum around here because none of us do this.

yeah no shit i fucking hate myself im a fucking subhuman moron and i masturbate to cuck porn

i was going to say dont bully BUT I DESERVE IT

FUCKING BULLY ME!

Goddamn, you autistic fuck. You've been posting you're dumb ass fucking opinions every few hours ITT. You know why you can't get blacked videos out of your head? Because you keep masturbating and putting energy and stimuli into those memories! You keep going back to it, you keep giving into this filth.

Every goddamn thing you post is filled with "I'm a victim, I can't help it" type mentality and you're too retarded to even notice it. You're a fucking junky, you're fucking overstimulating yourself and you have given up control again and again, and again before so you will not be able to get control now, you dumbfuck.

Goddamn, you fucking nigger. As long as you keep giving into this shit, masturbating every goddamn day, no matter to what, you WILL keep feeding the same fucking thoughtform that eventually leads you back to cuck shit. You never fucking got rid of feeding the cuck habit, you just had it turn a different side for a short while!

There's only one thing you can do:
STOP MASTURBATING, YOU DUMBFUCK
It's a fucking self-feeding type of problem. You're giving in every day, what does it matter to your cucking habit that you don't want to jerk it to nigger dicks today? It can wait and strike in the moment you read anything remotely related to it, and it won't let go until you give in.
Yes, it's a serious problem, and either you deal with it, or you can just kill yourself now, because you are a slave to your own uncontrolled urges.

youre right

Honestly, before I learned about how prevalent the problem was, I always just assumed it was a fetish for salty nignogs who couldn't score white girls irl.

I had no idea the truth was so foul.

Why?

You like cuck shit because you get off the masochism. As long as you continue feeling sorry for yourself and enjoying the emasculation and abuse from others, you only tighten the chains. Bullying you feeds the disease.

Remove yourself from your own perspective temporarily and look at the situation objectively. Every time you think of cuck shit, imagine a smiling merchant floating in the background. Every time you give in, the kike wins and your ancestors cry.

It's all willpower. Uncuck yourself and you will be rewarded.

Stop beating yourself up and start building yourself up. Live each day to improve yourself, even it's just a small habit that you changed, it will add up in the long run. Eventually you will be a better and more loved man.

Stop jerking off to cuck porn. For the love of God, stop jerking off to cuck porn! Quite jerking off so much all together and find a woman to make your girlfriend who is a better person than you so you can at least inspire to be better.

You can either choose to walk in the path of righteousness to Valhalla or be cucked into an oblivion of shame and darkness.

STOP PLAYING THE FUCKING VICTIM, YOU FUCKING RETARD
STOP FUCKING FETISHIZING YOUR MUMMY BEING MAD AT YOU AND SPANKING THE SHIT OUT OF YOU
GET A GRIP ON YOUR FUCKING LIFE, YOU DAMN DUMB MOTHERFUCKER

Being a "woe is me" faggot will only hurt you, one post after another you are presenting yourself as a child, that is not able to work with himself and deal with his own urges. You should know better than anyone else why ancients, both pagan and christian represented these urges as fiends and beasts. They are blind, they are hungry, and they will push you until you give in.

If your perversion is as powerful as you make it seem, you will have a hard time overcoming it. It's is most likely deeply ingrained and has numerous "ways" to suck you back in. Humans work on habits and this shit is no different. If you want to brake the cycle, you need to change your masturbation habits, supplant it with others and create new habits to strengthen your will-power.

Don't take this too lightly, everything you do is connected. If, for instance you are able to work on x every day, never giving up, you are already strong enough to say no when some urge tries to tell you to give in. If you are a limp-wristted faggot that does nothing of note, you need to create a regular schedule for yourself, create structure for you to follow. The more chaotic and scattered you are, the easier is it for previous habits to come up and take control. Likewise, you need to do all in your power to spend longer amounts of time without masturbating. And never ever use pictures or video. No matter what you think to yourself when your dick is in your hands. Think only about women and you yourself fucking them. Start with one day of no-fap. Don't go hating on yourself if you fail and punishing yourself. You are literally just enforcing a victim mentality in yourself if you do that. You need to become the master of yourself, your mental chatter should reflect this.

Your a fucking garden, you faggot, start pulling out the weeds.

He needs to first solve his masturbation problem before he gets a gf, imho. Having a woman right by his side whenever he gets urges in his pee pee and below his navel, just means he can give up getting control over himself since he has a vagina to fill - bad idea.

Also - if he has such a serious issue it's very unlikely that the rest of him is that appealing to women.

i love this image.

Someone should do the same thing but with a hitman in a modern hitman (from the pc game) style. in a suit and all.

I mean you are probably right–for fuck's sake, after all, he gets off to the idea of his woman enjoying a better suited man right in front of him. I bet this fucker even took the opportunity to talk about living out the fantasy with an ex of his except she probably thought he was so pathetic and pitiful that she just left him for the bull before she could even give him the pleasure of properly cucking him.

I mean he probably has low self esteem in the first place because his penis isn't even large enough to deserve the title 'manhood.'

Our advice is probably lost to him is in this second. It's lost in a cucked hopeless void that was destined to be his limp-dicked life.

It's just a fantasy, man. Everything about the fetish is bullshit that plays with your "competition sperm" mindset. Black guys don't have bigger dick - white guys actually have bigger ones, and the biggest one. Every ethnic group of women prefer white men, generally. If you actually take care of yourself (assuming you're white, and not a manlet or pussy) you'll be top tier mating material by a lot of women. I get checked out constantly out in town, because I'm not you're typical cucked normie. It's that simple.

I guess you read my post earlier, and watched my favorite cuckold video on porn hub? Lol, sorry about that.

Tbh, you shouldn't even think about watching porn again - until you've taken many more redpills. You're not prepared for the degeneracy yet, and you are destroying your mind. Whenever you get the urge to look at cuckporn - go look at black on white crime, iq race differences, or something like it.

Maybe, probably. But if we don't try and help a man who's out of advice and addicted to his own evils when the odds of success are small, can we hope to help a guy who is less of a retard?

I don't know about you, user, but I'm just generally disgusted by these horrible vices plaguing people. And, even if he floats along in this cuck state of mind for a few more years without using what we suggest, I would feel a lot worse if I said nothing, posted nothing that would show him that he doesn't have to live like this, that there is a better way and that he can achieve it.

I've been watching vanilla porn for years and I've never watched lesbian porn, that's boring and does nothing for me. Also no fetishes. I fap on average 3 times a day, mostly using pictures.

I don't see the point in stopping mastrubating and making yourself so horny that you find the nearest fatty fuckable. Screw that. The only kind of sex life I want to have is in a long term relationship, casual sex is essentially no different than mastrubation, you just spray your sperm onto a woman's face instead of a tissue.

Just cut it down to a few times a week instead of a few times a day, so you're not constantly lethargic and aimless.

This guy is completely right. I've had the exact same problems as you before. I know its hard to not keep fapping to it, but you have to stop it now. You need to get off the internet, take a step outside into the real world and go for a walk for a few hours. You need to really think about whats going on and sort it out yourself. The urge can feel impossible to resist when your sitting in your bedroom with the degenerate porn so easily accessible.

Delete everything in your porn folders and stop fapping for a day or two. You will feel really horny and you will want to relapse but instead fap to porn that isn't cuckshit and has no niggers. What worked for me was doujinshi because usually there is a rough story that will block out any external fetishes that you want to project on to it. Limit your fapping time to once a day and find other activities to take up the time. The cuck thoughts will probably continue to bother you for a while and when they do punch yourself or something else that hurts. (I managed to stop the bbc visions after 5 days of doing that).

I have two Master's degrees and I was employed until recently, kinda between jobs now. I have energy, it's just that casual sex doesn't interest me, never has, I've never approached a woman with the intention of having casual sex with her. So I don't really understand why guys waste so much time getting sex, I'm far more interested in a committed relationship. The number of women I sleep with during my life is utterly meaningless to me.

The best source of pornography is your imagination.
If you have a poor imagination, use a simple masturbatory aid like solo pictures of girls. Your brain will take it from there.

yeah sure thing

Russia? What's with the riddles, why don't you just say it

Quality>quantity, dumbass.

Put it on a separate partition or disk and encrypt it with a really long password. Don't write it down anywhere. You'll eventually forget the password if you can exercise self-control for an extended period of time. I'm in the process of doing this myself.

Bump

Really wish someone could put this audio over some video that doesnt include a huge honking webm of a sissy jacking off into a cup.

Been watching porn all my life, this is the stage I'm at now.

For frame of reference- I was at the lesbian porn stage in my mid teens.

Also you forgot the third issue- trust. Our society more-so than ever punishes trust. We once had to rely on others and function as a community, but in this hyper competitive era, we often find ourselves unable to trust people.

This can be seen in the MGTOW community's distrust of women in general, or in the leftwing community's outright contempt for men.

This is an important point, I think. Sense of community is dead. People are more isolated than ever before - everybody wants to go it alone if at all possible, because they don't trust others.

Normally I'd agree with you, but when you can't get a fetish out of your head that doesn't work. This guy is so cucked that if he watches solo girls or tries to imagine up scenarios himself it will be about cucking and niggers. The first problem this guy needs to address is the degenerate fetishes becauses it's hurting him even more then overfapping is. Once that is dealt with then he can start using his imagination, but for now all it will do is make it worse. I know this from experience because I was a cuck like him at one point too. Most people on this thread are giving hasty advice to drop everything right away but that makes you relapse hard, just like other addictions its better to be slower because relapsing fucking sucks.

Quality thread. Bump.

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Good thread, but a lot of heavy-handed advice in here. You will not be able to stop looking at porn/masturbating cold turkey if you are an addict. It will just lead to regression, which will lead to guilt, which in turn will make the addiction that much more powerful.

Just slowly wean yourself off of it. If you're jacking off multiple times a day, cut it down to once a day. Then once every other day. Then like three times a week.
If you're looking at cuck porn/sissy hypno/interracial stuff, stop it. Look at heterosexual porn that isn't overly fetishistic, that doesn't feed off your insecurity.

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I half disagree. Yes, the chances of managing to completely stop in one go are small, but people should totally try to.

IF they really relapse, then yes, they have to remember not to fall for the old pitfalls and just look at vanilla. I don't recommend this because his brain is still rewired then so insecurity may settle if the pics aren't enough, plus the slippery slope might happen in a hyper-fasdt microcosm.

Overall, quit and hold as long as you can. Always push up - after the third month or so it becomes so damn easy you can skip the need altogether.

sweet jesus

Don't worry - the first waters are always the most difficult. My first streak was four days. My second was two weeks.

Just try really hard. Occupy your head with other things - if you have lots of free time start a sport, lifting or go learn a language or well, fucking whatever.

Just make yourself busy mate.

Reading this thread makes me want to delete all my porn now. I kinda went though all these phases that you explained cept the lesbian one but I did have a phase of the forced fem/sissy shit but quickly went from that to hetero creampies/impreg in what I can only hope as a subconscious way to fix my self. Hopefully I can stick too this and overcome the new addiction of our times.

The great porn experiment

pretty much everyone has seen this but to that one who hasn't

Minor tip, but I've found gregorian chant to be potent anti-fap music. Your desire turns from sexual gratification to wanting to kneel on thorns, flog yourself, repent, then rise to purge the wicked from the earth by sword and fire. Might just be a new psychosexual fetish, but I can live with it.

i just want to add this to the thread:
in my experience, the best thing a male can do for his self-esteem and his mental health in general is to lift weights.
whether you fap or you don't, whether you care about your sexual market value or you don't - the human organism just seems to need it, and benefit from it. whatever the context, it is worth something to get stronger, and to know you're getting stronger.
i don't participate in organized athletics, nor am i a violent / dominating person, and I don't have casual sex or measure my value by women's sexual response to me - but if i go too long without lifting i go crazy in lots of subtle, seemingly unrelated ways. if you haven't tried it, please do so. it makes the world seem like progress and improvement are fundamentally possible, in a basic, primal way that nothing else i know of does.

I am surprised at how misunderstood pedophiles are. I am extremely attracted to girls of nearly all ages. Would be happy with a woman, but the short, flat, cute face type has been my ultimate sexual ideal for nearly all time.

Yeah I can confirm that the slope from straight porn to lesbian and tranny porn to straight up autogynephilia is real. Years of that shit led me to start crossdressing, going out publicly dressed as a woman, even became a webcam whore for a bit. Fortunately, and I thank God every day for this, I woke up from that nightmare and quit the destructive behavior, embracing my masculinity instead. I still struggle with porn addiction but, aside from the occasional relapse, I avoid it like the plague. In truth I could not have recovered without rediscovering my faith in Jesus Christ, and you'll find that most recovering people say the same. Jesus promises forgiveness if you repent truly in your heart, and without such mercy, I truly would not have been able to forgive myself of my shameful actions.

Here's a question for the OP.

What if you never really started with het. or rape porn and pretty much just jumped straight to the lesbian porn here. Is that just as harmful or is it just a fluke?

While I can't deny the help of faith, it is important to denote any Holla Forumsack can overcome this. But indeed, faith in Christ is a great help in a lot of recovery cases, and many describe reconnecting with religion during recovery.


That was just an example of the slope. I'm guessing you were already somewhat active even without porn, be it masturbating with just imagination or just fantasizing, so the kick when you suddenly found lesbian porn was the same as to a user of normal porn.

Overall the impact should be around the same in the end.

I should note something I didn't say in the text: People who somehow manage to stop at the slope, rare cases as it were, were usually people with busy day-to-day lives and active sexual lives.

By reinforcing their normal sexuality often and keeping their mind occupied, they'd managed to stave off the effects… sometimes. Usually a time of depression or simply rest in vacations hit and it all happened at once, like a truck.

Just something to note - it can be delayed. Case to case basis.

This is such broscience. Porn addiction is a real thing, but this guy suggests it fucks up your dopamine receptors and makes you unable to feel dopamine rewards the way you should from other things. That's nonsense.
Quitting porn/masturbation will not magically improve your life and give you happiness you should have been feeling but weren't.

You will probably try harder to get real rewards in life instead of playing with yourself for a cheap, easy one, but it is not some magical switch that makes everything better like he is saying.

An Aryan man doesn't masturbate, nor does he view pornography. Period.

Addiction - any addiction - literally is a re-wiring of dopamin pathways. That's the very definition of an addiction on the neurological level.

Are you a virgin user?

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Kek. Are you twelve or what? That garbage is grammar school tier "philosophy".

No, just a normal dude who fought bitterly with porn addiction for years before finally seeing the light. And I stand by every word:

An Aryan man doesn't masturbate, nor does he view pornography. Period.

26, here. Will turn 27 in a few months.
Stay strong. There's more important things to worry about.

That's why the hair is there in the first place. A nice, black triangle is much sexier than beef curtains.

OP, what would you make of this particularly disturbing cluster of fetishes?

WARNING: SPOILED IMAGE CONTAINS SLOB, FURRY, VORE, AND GALAXY-SIZED OBESITY

Bonus points for the character being owned by a tranny.

just looks like circles to me

May Kek bless your innocent eyes user.

i fucking wish i was innocent

Did something happen to that feature? It no longer works for me.

Same issue with me, the arrow just flips back to it's normal position like nothing happened.

She probably likes that too.

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I've been messed up like this since early puberty mate. Vanilla sex never really interested me. Some other things I acquired through porn, but not femdom and they're all associated with it

When I fap, my motivation and energy to do anything with the rest of my day is completely gone, sometimes for the day after too. When I get a streak of 4 days or more going I'm practically a different person. chronic porn and masturbation really are a cancer on society.

There's a lot to be pissed off about, user. I've experienced exactly what you're saying though. I just try to channel it into lifting or whatever else I'm doing.


The merchants are a shop, right?

Almost forgot to post these.

This interesting. Back when I was bluepilled, the first board I visited was /mlp/, and thus I decided to force myself to find only ponies attractive, then got away from it thanks to Holla Forums. It was a sense of wanting to belong. Being an outlier is fun:^)
Anyway, 10/10 OP

*This is

*Also, I think I have to disagree with you on the pedoshit. At least, to the extent that all pedos are just low-self esteem twats. There's a serious mental illness there. In pic related, I see what you mean, but don't forget that there are still people who are delusional and think the child is flirting (watch Chickenhawk). So maybe just one pleasure center, but sometimes both.
Also,
C'mon OP.

they raped, you retard.

in the unga bunga ages, if you were a strong enough man you could grab a 12 year old, put a dozen babies in her cunt, and the only way you could be stopped was if you were defeated in strength.

good thing those times are over and womyn have rights and force the jews to force you to pay for their livelihood so you can't reproduce like nature intended right?

*sexology is retarded in that the study of sex useless outside of battling Jews (or helping the Jew's plans)

Not exactly, kinda started looking at porn around the same time I figured out masturbation.

Reason I bring this up, is that outside of actual Amateur, most lesbian porn just isn't that appealing to me. I get more kicks out of cutesy relationship stuff than watching two obviously straight chicks bumping uglies for a few minutes. Pic somewhat related

I do question if we're confusing correlation with causation here, though. It could just be that those who are more likely to engage in the higher levels of degeneracy, are also more likely to see out that kind of porn to begin with. I think we need a larger sample size outside of the chans to really shed some light on this, either way.

Deleting my porn folder. And reading the thread from the top…

Not exactly, kinda started looking at porn around the same time I figured out masturbation.

Reason I bring this up, is that outside of actual Amateur, most lesbian porn just isn't that appealing to me. I get more kicks out of cutesy relationship stuff than watching two obviously straight chicks bumping uglies for a few minutes. Pic somewhat related

I do question if we're confusing correlation with causation here, though. It could just be that those who are more likely to engage in the higher levels of degeneracy, are also more likely to see out that kind of porn to begin with. I think we need a larger sample size outside of the chans to really shed some light on this, either way.

This is one of the most important threads of the year.

I have been trying to organize my thoughts on porn for a while now, as I never found a concentrated redpill on the subject. It seems most of us just eventually realize there's something deeply wrong with it.

This is a great starting point. I'd like to know details about your interviews/statistics. I'm sure BlackPidgeonSpeaks is firing up his editor right now.

I'm going to pursue the subject further from the perspective of how it affects your brain, and how it's mind control.

The fact that we don't have a standard redpill on this is telling. So many men need help with this. It's also a great way to introduce men to how their minds have been manipulated.

We could all stand to masturbate to Trump a little less during this campaign down time, and direct some efforts to develop Holla Forums's philosophy on this important subject.

Oh God no! It's not a starting point for some e-celeb to building a career on, or another "spaghetti pill" (there's a reason redpilled is the only one that lasted!) or made into a "movement" (muh belonging) or hijacked by whatever current year edgy movement that needs more fuel to profile with.

This needs to be common sense. Nothing more, nothing less.

Don't label it, don't meme it, don't sperg it. TL;DR it. Infograph it. Spread it as you would knowledge about not drinking drain cleaner, or that smoking is bad for you. Make it common sense, common knowledge - something only a retard or complete degenerate doesn't know or acknowledge. Good advice every good man needs to pass on to his fellow men without agenda or identity.

Words of wisdom right here.

Thanks OP.
This thread is great. Actually understanding this stuff makes it way easier to overcome than willpower alone.

omg.. awesome thanks! :) been looking for a nice body weight comp like this.. this skinny fat shit is ugly AF

well, he's wrong about OP but "Might is Right" is the fundamental basis of any and all philosophy. Your righteousness and moral well-being isn't going to matter when someone puts a gun to your head.

The best ideology is one that provides the most power to it's followers and can sustain it in the long-term.

Some additional help for breaking the curse of skinny fat:
muscleforlife.com/skinny-fat-solution/

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cathartic thread

don't be so defeatist some of you guys. Envision how you want your life to go, save money, set goals and make it happen. Don't write yourselves off.

My fucking sides. God help me I'm dying.

Hey OP are you still around?

How much experience you have with people fully overcoming autogynephilia? Do you have some testimonies that you can link to? Have they developed complete gynephilia without any autogynephilic thoughts? What happens when people start to feel an urge to transition, is there coming back from that?

Are you sure just no fap can fix it?

Hey OP are you still around?

How much experience you have with people fully overcoming autogynephilia? Do you have some testimonies that you can link to? Have they developed complete gynephilia without any autogynephilic thoughts? What happens when people start to feel an urge to transition, is there coming back from that?

Are you sure just no fap can fix it?

Kikewheels stop fucking trannies and fix the site

Bump for the best and most important thread in the catalog. It's too easy to blame Feminism solely for the breakdown of the family and society. But blaming other people, especially women, for your problems is emasculating, weak and more importantly incorrect. We have to realise that we are in control of our own destinies and this is our God given right. Many of us seek consolation, comfort and release in porn and the internet because we don't think there is a place for us in society anymore and there is no point in even trying. This is defeatism and submission of the worst kind even if our minds have been deliberately subverted and corrupted into feeling and behaving this way by people that Holla Forums are all too aware of. But there is not point at all to be being 'redpilled' if each of us cannot embody and live by the beliefs we espouse. Porn is insidious because it is draining our very life essence and will power that is necessary to change ourselves.

You've got the right sentiment, but fuck that paper jew garbage and buy yourself some precious metals.

Been mostly in to only furshit for a fair while. I've not been able to get a dribbling wet cock outside of swapping dick pics with people on the internet, I can't get fully hard fucking women and both 3d and 2d of women does nothing. Often the sight of 3d women causes contempt and the odd time I do fuck one IRL I'm wracked with worry that she's going to fuck me over and distance myself.
The recently the only times I can get off now even with weeks of no masturbation is with furry stuff with the correct aesthetics and very rarely the stuff I draw (which more often strays into art studies or feelings of failure at being bad at art instead).
I've been lifting and I feel motivated to do stuff but I think sexually I'm fucked now. I can't trust women at all, I can't stand not being alone for long periods of time and yet I want to raise kids for the white race. It's a fucking mess.

You know what I do? I tell myself "you're white, therefore part of the master race, therefore better than this. What would my viking ancestors think of me?". Always makes me snap out of feeling like a loser/being a little bitch and motivates me to go lift instead.

Physically separate yourself from your collection and other stimulants. Go camping or touring, and make sure you have many activities you can complete to keep you busy and tired while you're gone.

This is called "Still Life (BETA MALE)" by Oneohtrix Point Never btw

What state you in? If you're in qld we could hang out and talk fashy/degenerate things.

Most of mine were talks with people I found around here after short confirmations, and yes, there's several cases.

You can even find people here telling their stories.

A more solid recording of testimonies can be found on yourbrainonporn (the site) if you google it, I don't like linking to it since it's a bit too close to plebbit's nofap board but well, it has what you want.


Indeed. Improvement starts with the inside.


"Even with weeks of no masturbation"

Mate, you're gone FAR. You think a couple weeks will fix it? You need to quit this shit for good. It was two months before I saw solid results.

I cant seem to find a lot of things there about autogynephilia. What about the tranny thing though, is there coming back from that? I dont want to pursue that path, but every time I read about it I get really excited, I really hope I haven't crossed some line of no return

I'm not sure what to think of this. Since I see the actual data and arguments in it. However personal experience seems to have gone askew with it, at least lately.

I got into all of the disgusting stuff (lesbian, trannys, never cuckolding though, it always disgusted me) in my younger years, but since have drifted away from that, lesbian porn does nothing for me, any lesbian who flaunts their sexuality just pisses me off, trannys are pretty gross, and guys are even worse than that. However I'm still guilty of some strange stuff, namely, I'm into femdom. Despite that though, the idea of really being a female is a complete turn off, a great way to ruin a fap session.

Also a question, how does roleplaying/sexting come into this. I've drifted from porn to that heavily lately, because I've always found self insert porn to be pretty 'meh' at best. Being able to take something with another person and play it out, even if the two of you are effectively just writing out stories for each other, is pretty interesting. Plus there's the slight satisfaction of it that I hate stupid females, so I end up finding girls who are capable of writing out paragraphs of literate smut through this.

where is that cliff, dawg?

Mountains are my fetish

Now you'll know you use the internet for a belonging. Get of it and you'll find yourself good friends.

Joined /r/nosurf. 1-2 poss a day, not great, but not shit either if you're interested.

finally i understand why i and so many others play as females in video games

the question has been answered. at last. at last.

Can you suggest how to decrease that dopamine rush? Or are we stuck with those high dopamine level vices to ever be happy and healthy?

Goys help a fellow goy out, I feel like I'm turning into a tradwife here

I DONT WANT TO BECOME A TRADWIFE
GET THIS SHIT OUT OF MY HEAD
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

ID change, but was responding to myself. All the testimonies in here are for other vices or really minor agp, anyone here that went in deep but came back?

Dude, yourbrainonporn has literally testimonies of dudes who crossdressed for a decade going far, far off the deep end and came back.

Hell, there's that Walt something (I forget his name, I think it's Walt Heyer) from sexchangeregret.com who did the fucking surgery and he came back to sanity and married.

Never impossible.

It might be autogynephilia for some people, but the simplest answer to that question is they like the way the female characters look.
Character customization is purely an aesthetics choice in most games and those people believed the female characters had the most appealing aesthetics to their senses.

Well, if the videogame is from the third-person, I suppose a straight guy would rather look at a female's ass most of the time.

I play mostly females except on fight games (where I prefer playing heavy hitting initiators, usually male chars) and role-playing games, for the self-insertion.

Information kinda outdated since I haven't played anything in years.

so you're saying I could have dated my highschool crush if only introduced into more hardcore pron?

Just deleted 150gb of porn accumulated and optimized to a progressively sicker mind over 14 years. Let the healing begin.

Thank you, OP.

Well done, bro.

What kind of fucked up shit you got into?

Well, try saying no to the king.

Good bread OP, if this thread has shown us anything is that once the day of the rope comes, we'll have a lot of internal purging to do.

Thanks OP, fuck this shit, just thrown in the garbage all the clothes I used to CD.

I referenced this fine thread in >>>Holla Forums593222

That doesn't explain why Japan with it's host of fetishes is so relatively resistant to the epidemic proportions transsexualism has taken here.

Porn is obviously destructive to the traditional family, but just as obviously for it to completely destroy a society's resistance to overly public fetishism it's not sufficient.

The difference of course being Jews.

Japan is fucked though. They're not having sex, not making babies, and the population is plummeting. There's probably just as much crossdressing and sissyshit over there as you find in the west, BUT with one important distinction:

Japan still has a strong culture of social propriety. What I mean by this is people keep these things to themselves, they are taught from their earliest ages to keep these things to themselves. The nail that sticks out gets hammered in. So you don't "see" it, you don't have tranny Japs walking the streets in full drag shouting at people for not letting them use the little girl's bathrooms.

But they're still there. In their rooms. Jacking off to NTR and fantasizing about turning into women.

As a beta I take offense in using the term for omega NU-"males", hipster and cuckolds.

Why do you guys always use screencaps that are larger than my screen?

Here's a suggestion. Do you faggots enjoy scrolling right or self-inflicted myopia?

Japan is not fucked.

It just goes through exactly what an advance capitalist society will face, depopulation, economy bankrupt, then start again after crisis.

It's healthy thing since you can only start a new after some crisis happen.

Jews have a homosexuality rate of roughly 10%

Source is buried somewhere in the Institute of Advanced Homophobia

This is very relatable for me and I don't have a clear answer on what to do, but I'd recommend reading No More Mr Nice Guy by Robert Glover if you want a comprehensive explanation.

pdf here 7chan.org/lit/src/Robert_Glover_-_No_More_Mr_Nice_Guy.pdf

We all know that youre trying to best stop with the trap porn user. Fight the good fight. Me and my horse cock that never gets limp and can cum gallons upon gallons of cum into the bitches are rooting for you!

Hey OP, I've now read this entire thread and wanted to contribute some of my thoughts to your research.

To preface, I never went very far down the rabbit hole. I've never been into traps or cuckolding, but I can understand the appeal on an intellectual if not visceral level. I'm now on several months of nofap and don't seem to be in any danger of failing. My sex drive has always been pretty low.

Your analysis of autogynephilia when it comes to lesbian pornography is spot on, but I wanted add something about the concept of innocence and the layer of abstraction that lesbianism provides.
I was raised to be extremely cucked and couldn't stand any sort of male aggression (internal or external). I hated my own sexuality and thus developed fantasies that removed any sort of agency on my part. These often revolved around some slightly older or simply more aggressive woman "taking advantage" of me, thereby absolving me of responsibility and allowing me to retain my innocence because I had never taken any sort of initiative or displayed any aggression.

It's easy to see how this would play into lesbian pornography since there is no male aggression on display. Furthermore, it also promotes autogynophilia since you can completely partition your male sexuality by projecting it on to a female abstraction of yourself.

This is also the mindset that led me to hypnosis. It's important to make the distinction that these weren't hypnosis "videos" in the sense that's been described several times in this thread, but merely audio recordings more in the "guided meditation" vein. The connection should be easy to make here. The "hypnosis" allowed me to be "not responsible" for my own desires (especially since it always hands free). The recordings that I listened to varied around half and half between pure hetero and autogynephilic (usually lesbian). I would never do anything that involved another man. Another dimension of the experience is that I would sometimes listen to a recording merely for the sake of resisting it and proving that I possessed the willpower to control myself.

This is something that I predict will become more prevalent as feminism progresses and more children are raised under its influence.

Since becoming conscious of this and working to combat it, my dominant side has emerged to a certain extent, but it is still focused outward rather than inward (fantasies center around how I might be able to make a woman feel rather than how I might feel). I still can't come to terms with myself as a sexual organism.

Hopefully this has helped your research.

Dude, you are me.

I guess it comes down to recognizing these behaviors as you're engaging in them and changing course.

If spaghetti is produced, so be it. Just know what caused it and plan for next time. I'm with you dude. We are all really just going through the rite of initiation into manhood later on in life than it should be. This twisted society has fucked us, be we can unfuck ourselves, its just gonna be an upstream swim bro.

Good luck!

Oh, one other thing.

DONT EVER SAY SORRY, EVER

There is other ways to show remorse when it is necessary without having to actually say sorry. Id suggest focusing on this first. Id bet anything you find yourself saying sorry far too often.

They fantasize, but they don't lose their cocks over it. It's a fetish and they know it, they don't convince themselves it's normal.

It's Jews which pushes the meme that these fetishes can be realized in public and be seen as normal (and in doing so destroying the existence of normalcy and society with it). Without Jews the only problem with the spread of fetishes is men and women not wanting to have relationships and kids. Artificial wombs will be able to solve that problem eventually.

Fuck me, I am the same as the 2 of you , although lately I have been trying to change my course gradually so theirs something.


Now that you mention it I might be saying sorry more then I should, I am going to have to keep a check on it.

Spot on. Women actually do prefer a guy who's helpful and considerate, but there's a fine line between that and selfless cuck. Don't go out of your way for people who don't appreciate it. Stand up for yourself whenever confronted. Don't say sorry unless you really, really fucked up and it was intentionally malevolent. And above all else, don't be a gentleman unless the other person is also behaving themselves. Save doting for positive reinforcement, though, otherwise you just gimp yourself.

Norway, one of the Fjords

breddy gud post 5/5

"The Well-Cultured Anonymous : 2.0"?

Is this what you mean? Link in >>>/adv/780

Holy hot bags of dick, this book is spectacular.

"Nice Guys build walls that prevent others from getting too close. Understandably, this affects their ability to be intimate, but it also protects them from the consequences of being found out. These walls might include: Addictions (food, sex, t.v., alcohol, work, etc.), humor, sarcasm, intellectualism, perfectionism, and isolation… Nice Guys have a difficult time comprehending that in general, people are not drawn to perfection in others. People are drawn to shared interests, shared problems, and an individual's life energy" (p. 45).

I've been there 4 years ago before I found my waifu. The biggest difference being that I fapped twice a week or so, usually the day after sex or the night/day after having a lot of sex. My cock craved it and I felt that orgasm was intense. Mostly pics of the general "type" of woman I was with.

It's okay to apologize when it's warranted. But, ""apolagize"", dont be,""sorry"". And only do it when it's fully due. "My apologizes, I forgot you're allergic to asparagus OR I know I was 30 minutes late for our date… My apolagizes dear.

More importantly, don't do anything that you'd need to be sorry for. Be dominate, but nurturing.

Listen and ask more about a subject she is obviously interested in without pandering.

Thinking before you speak goes a long way.

The voiceover in this context is explaining the effect of the sceen (porn) in warping peoples brains into the shit. Gazing into eternity like some kind of Eloi childish dystopia.

It becomes clearer if you understand Mcluhan.

And this moves to my message to the thread: Nothing wrong with masturbation. Just use the old brain and hand technique of our ancestors.

The problem is the images of the electronic screen.

i always liked her. now i know why.

Thank you for posting this OP. I suppose I will tell my story in hopes that it may help someone.

I first started looking at porn around 3rd grade when me and my friends found a bunch of magazines. Eventually I got 56k internet and went looking for porn on there. As a kid I stuck with pictures of naked girls, solo masturbation, and lesbian shit. Tried downloading videos on napster, kazaa, etc. Always ended up with some fucked up shit I wasn't looking for like bestiality or cp. Started browsing some warez porn network sites and saw all kinds of fucked up shit(bestiality, cp, etc), but generally stuck to lesbian porn.

Eventually I got cable internet, which meant I could download videos easily. Stuck to female masturbation and lesbian shit I found on porn forums until I was an adult. Eventually I got a vpn and started using torrents, and that's when things got more interesting. Never in my life had getting exactly what I wanted been so easy. Compared to a lot of people, I never got too far into fetishes, but I did get into dp and gangbangs heavily. Eventually it got to the point where it was all I could watch to get off. After a while I started to feel depressed after I fapped. Questioning why I was so pathetic as to be watching such fucked up shit.

It got to the point where it bothered me so much I went back to watching lesbian porn. This was about a month ago. Eventually I started to get the exact same feeling watching lesbian porn. Why am I watching this shit? I kept watching it because it still felt somewhat better than watching hardcore gangbangs. Then a week ago I found this thread. It made me think what if I stopped watching lesbian porn? What if I deleted all of the lesbian and gangbang porn I have? What if I went back to just simple pictures of naked women?

I started by deleting the shit off my phone(I kept videos on my phone so I could fap in bed because I don't leave the house and have no danger of anyone else seeing it). I stopped watching gangbangs, and lesbian porn completely. It then felt like there was a war between me and myself going on in my mind. I haven't deleted the videos off my computer yet, but I also haven't watched them again. I still haven't been able to bring myself to delete that folder, so I went and found a pay website that focused only on clothed women stripping down and posing.

I googled around until I found a username and password that worked, proxied up, and started downloading picture sets until I felt I had enough(about 200 gigs, ~100,000 pictures). It was surprisingly easy to go back to only fapping to pictures of beautiful women, still not so easy to delete my video folder even if I'm not using it though. I figure soon as the war in my head dies down, and I keep doing what I'm doing it will be easy. I definitely see that there is something wrong with watching that kind of shit, and after dealing with the mental side effects of quitting, I am convinced that I never want to go back to watching that kind of shit.

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Welp, you did it, you faggots, congratulations.

I just deleted fucking everything. Even the flash drives. With the exception of a few nudes I saves of ex's, but tbh fam that's more for sentimental value than jerk off material

This should be an interesting next couple of months.

Brb purging self in the cleansing fire.

You motivation is earning it and becoming your own man.
If everyone was like you Donald Trump would've just taken his father's money and lived a life of luxury.

I'm seeing circles too.
People jerk off to this? I don't see anything sexual here. It looks like a fucking art project.

Also drink hibiscus tea, it blocks estrogen.

Especially if you're fat, fat cells turn testosterone into estrogen.

hibiscus tea shills pls

You don't have to drink it.

If you like high estrogen, you can drink fennel, or puraria murifica.

What's with these supposed hallucinatory side effects I'm reading about?

Will I end up robotripping or something if I drink too much? Because I might be into that

I call bull on that, unless you can come up with some evidence that it blocks estrogen and not just messes with it, I'm saying that it is fake

examine.com/supplements/hibiscus-sabdariffa/

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seeing some of you liked this, i started a channel.

warning - a lot of degeneracy so it's not really Holla Forums approved but i am working on dealing with my degen shit, it is just tough.

Drink one cup a day, or mix a cup of hibiscus with red wine for added health benefit.


Being kind of pedantic aren't you.


Yeah fuck off.

I'll check it out thanks.

Need something to occupy my time now that I'm not fucking jerking off anymore, afterall.

Make it Trump Brand Wine.

Started No Fap again. Second time this year. Two days in. I've fallen really hard into porn over the last few years. I could usually go a couple days easy, but now it feels a lot harder.

I've told myself if I do crumble, I will try my damnedest to avoid porn entirely. If I have to fap daily again to be rid of porn, then it is a start I guess.

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I deleted my folder months ago and things have never been better. remember user you are stronk and can overcome the jew!

I have tried to figure out why I'm into femdom.

But I've been exclusively into femdom since before I was 10, when they were proto-sexual. Puberty I spent a few years wanting to be a woman's pet bitch, and then I eventually discovered femdom and realized that was exactly what I was looking for.

Sissy stuff I discovered later on through browsing femdom, and then eventually got into. I don't look at lesbian porn either.

But I was going to end up being some kind of submissive masochist even without the influence of porn.

So what do you make of this OP?

Congratulations on not needing the internet to be a faggot, I guess?

Stuff like that has always existed on the fringe of human sexuality. It's the MASS FUCKING REPROGRAMMING of the sexual proclivities of the populace that's the problem.

Y-yeah, probably just psychological trauma.

how was your relationship with your mother?

Here is something that you all may profit from, if you actually do the exercises. You cannot build muscle just with the knowledge of what to do, just as you cannot ace a test merely with the knowledge of which chapters of the textbook you must study. Certainly these two posters will be helped if they do it:


If you have repulsive scenes in your mind, or if you have drilled negative thoughts into your mind (sissy hypno shit, etc.), use this method from Neuro-Linguistic Programming:

1. Get in a room without heavy stimuli
2. Close eyes
3. Relax and let your mind calm down and breathe deeply
4. When you're sufficiently relaxed, view the image in your mind, or picture the negative thoughts as being a ball of energy
5. Make the image appear far away, as if you are doing one of those effects cartoons sometimes use where the screen gradually diminishes into a shrinking square until all is black
6. Move the image closer to your internal view
7. Repeat for a while (doesn't have to be many times, just get the hang of controlling the image/energy in this fashion)

So far, this exercise has aimed to help you have better control of your inner eye. Pay attention to your feelings as you do this; the disgust should be diminished as the image shrinks into the distance, and accentuated as you move the image toward you. As you do this, know you are in control and you have utter supremacy over the contents of your mind

8. Now apply a greyscale filter over the image/ball of energy. Make the colors very dim, bleary, until it is finally totally greyscale
9. To get rid of auditory disgust, play clown music over the image/energy. You are mocking the image/energy, and delegitimizing it.

Repeat as often as needed. These techniques will work, and you can apply them to any negative image/memory/etc.

The reverse is true as well. If you want to reinforce your self-esteem with reminders of your successes, make them big, colorful, close up, and set to proud music. Use images of the future in the same way to nourish your mind and self-esteem with positive a positive, upward and forward oriented striving.

What kind of relationship with my mother would I need for me to be into femdom?

or

Good job.
Bare in mind the goal of this whole discussion isn't to make you stop using porn forever or give up jacking off. You can still do it, just be fucking sensible about it.
Don't do it all the time and especially don't do it as part of a routine just because you can. It should be something that is done because you absolutely need a release and there really isn't any other way for you to get it.
Don't look at any overly fetishistic porn. Look at solo nudes and such and use your imagination - envision yourself with the girl.

But for now, see how long you can go. You might find yourself a lot more energetic and driven without daily masturbation, as the easy and guaranteed release of jerking it makes you pretty lazy and complacent.

bump

topten? top ten what?

Porn isn't the problem. Not having a life is the problem. You get married? Your wife isn't going to be as horny as you (you're the one with the high testosterone) and you're still going to jack off.
Porn and masturbation isn't the cause; it's just correlated. It's just something men do more when they don't want to do anything else or they feel depressed and unmotivated.
Masturbation - don't make it into something more than what it is. It's a bodily function, like eating or taking a shit.
You want to know what people do when they get depressed and demotivated? They eat. It's the same thing. It's not eating which is the fucking problem.
You aren't going to solve the goddamn problems in your life by not masturbating. It's not going to do jack shit except as a placebo. The only thing masturbating does to you is keep you from getting fucking prostate cancer.
I don't know how many people have told me shit along the same lines of 'I'm going to go to the gym and it's going to give me the totally unrelated shit that I want.' You want a good job? Get an education and then go our and do interviews. You want a girlfriend? Go out and start dating women.
Go to the gym? Stop masturbating? These are fucking distractions. Do the shit that gets you want you want. You're already too fucking distracted already, don't go off in another unrelated direction.
The only thing that will change your life is to *GET OFF YOUR ASS AND GO GET WHAT YOU FUCKING WANT*.
Nothing else matters, literally nothing else matters. It isn't because you like masturbating too much. It's because those things you think you want; you don't want them as much as you think you do, or you just aren't motivating yourself. And this is why people flutter from distraction to distraction, because they want to socially signal about shit they want, but they don't actually feel it or try to motivate themselves or concentrate.
So fucking stop. If you want to do something, then hype yourself up about that thing and then just go fucking do it. It isn't about all the other infinite possible shit that no human mind could possibly focus on. It's about focusing on the one thing you want and simplifying.
Just focus on the thing you want to do and go fucking do it.

This thread doesn't deserve to die quite yet.

You don't think that there's a mechanism of causation underlying this correlation though? There are lots of people in this thread want to be motivated, and have moments of success, but are ultimately just circling the drain and eventually relapse.

One thing I taught myself to do is fetishize the pussy and the act of hooking up with girls or gf'ing them. I was really into anal porn and had to stop that shit because the pussy was no longer desirable, I basically reversed it by thinking of the pussy as taboo. You can trick your brain pretty easily, it has a sort of coding to it. Repetitive thoughts and actions have an effect on it… and that's kind of what this thread is about.

The hooking up/gf fetish helps me with confidence. It helps me realize the only way I'm going to bed a girl is if I act on it. I'm tricking myself into deriving sexual pleasure from just socializing with females and attempting to bed them. Another thing is only fantasize about real girls that you know, and actually have a chance with. Our standards get way too high after seeing all the girls we've seen on the Internet/media. Be realistic and avoid seeking out pictures of beautiful girls. Even that can fuck your perception.

You don't have a wife, you don't understand hormones.

I have my own theory about interracial. As you say it's much the same as bestiality. The point is "wow, she's so horny she'd fuck a nigger? That's HOT!". Same thing with dogs or other animals.
The male brain multiplies attractiveness by availability to gauge a potential partner's value, the result of the equation says how horny you get.

A fully clothed female usually doesn't pique sexual interest too much, the same female scantily clothed and wearing whorish makeup signals she's ready and willing to fuck.
I know guys who aren't attracted to objectively hot females but would rather screw uggos or plain girls, because they know they can reach them. I know guys who are into tattooed sluts, because everybody knows they're whores who put out easily. I know guys who are into catgirls, because animal attributes mean they're less intelligent and easily subdued. I know pedophiles are into kids for the same reason.

There's one more thing about interracial\bestiality, the female is in control.

That's right, it's not the black slave who's really doing the fucking, it's the woman. She's merely using the nigger to pleasure herself, she can do this because her status is so much higher than the nigger's (or the animal in case of bestiality). You can see the same mechanism in femdom: she's a goddess to be venerated, and the male is merely a slave. The male is completely feminized, to the point he starts judging the sexual partner according to social status, like women do.

I hope you didn't catch a new fetish by reading this.

Oh, and I know full well what what the anxiety about pleasuring females stems from, even before the media or porn were able to get to your brain: shitty mothers. Mothers who withhold love and affection to you because they're neglected by their own man or don't have one, so they project the man's role on you and you find yourself eternally lacking; unable to provide what she needs.

Let's take AIDS Skrillex's case. I've never gone full cuck like him, but I can see myself when he describes his relationship with his mother. His outlet for all his impotent rage is screamy music, mine is videogames. Watch the video, I'm curious to see if anybody feels the same.

You're close. It's because it was forbidden. If you tell your kids they cant smoke or drink 99% chance they'll be smoking and drinking.

When you see a hot white girl with a nigger it's because she's trying to get back at her parents.

Yeah. Honestly still jerking off once every once in a while, more for prostate health than anything else.

It hasn't even been a week and my imagination already feels 10x stronger.

I'm glad I never got into any of that foul hypno shit. I can only imagine how bad the first few weeks of self-deprogramming would feel.

Praise be unto Kek.

The writings on Holla Forums actually helped me out a lot on this.
At first I was skeptical, but I tried the whole "don't watch lots of porn like a degenerate" thing.
>gf within 3 months

Thank you Holla Forums. you goys are real human beans.

When I was in college, I was stuck in a room with textbooks and a computer. Masturbating 6 or 7 times per day was the only way to keep my sanity while studying the boring math and computer science I needed to know to make bank.
It didn't matter how much I masturbated, only have much I studied. The people who didn't masturbate, but just didn't push themselves to study failed, while I passed.
It doesn't matter how much you masturbate if you do the things you need to do. I had this constant fear in the pit of my stomach that I was going to fail out of college, so I'd end up staying up 3 or 4 days in a row to the point where I literally felt sick. I masturbated during that time too, as a way to deal with the massive amount of stress.
If you push yourself really hard to do the things you need to do, nothing else matters.
As for being a degenerate, that's the politician of the week. That's fucking everyone. There are massively powerful and successful people who are as degenerate as fuck, and it doesn't matter. And you know what, it may not be my cup of tea, but if you have three biological children it doesn't matter if you have a sissy fetish; you achieved the goal. And everyone has to live dual lives to one degree or another. Getting into an argument with yourself about what your current sexual fetish of the week is ultimately a waste of time and energy.
What will solve your problems is drive, fear and ambition towards the things you want or need, to the point where you are driving yourself every single day.
And nobody wants to do it because it's painful and it's hard… I'm not even going to criticize anyone on that, because I know it's hell at the beginning and I can't blame anybody for wanting to run away from that. But if you stick with it, then you'll end up feeling great in the end.

As for your sexual fetish, don't make that the center of your life. Don't even make that a part of you. Just shrug and say, 'Got weird shit going on in my brain today,' masturbate, get it out of your system, and move onto the important things.

This particular faggot makes a good deal of sense.

Never have I heard such a need to justify your addiction.
Yeah, no. Not everyone is as special as you, fruitcake. We are talking about the majority, and all you talked about is nothing more than a justification

I'd be inclined to disagree in part, but dubs speak the truth. So my first thought is, what is it that goes wrong in the parent\child relationship that pushes them towards the very things that were forbidden? Is it because the parent is only seen as oppressive, while not providing love\security\whatever?

Says the guy who's got a chip on his shoulder because he feels like his victimhood is being denied relevance.

It's not about stopping anything. It's about starting something. You need a clear idea of something you want to do and how you're going to do it. You're probably not going to be masturbating as much because you won't have time, but either way masturbation is irrelevant.
It only becomes thing when you make it into a thing. The problem isn't that you're masturbating. The problem is that you aren't doing the shit you want or need to do.
And in my experience, what's common is to feel frustrated because you've got some pretty unrealistic expectations of yourself, and distracting yourself is the only way to escape the pressing need to struggle to do something utterly impossible or a far-fetched future fantasy. Masturbation is just one option on the table.

Focus on what you want to do, make it simple, make it realistic and it'll become a bigger and bigger part of your life until it pushes the things that get in the way out of your life.

It appears to me that you are trying too hard to justify your habit and basically saying "I've accomplished SOMETHING important to me so it doesn't matter if I fap to dogs having sex with clowns". That is beside the point. Yes, it doesn't matter to me or to anyone else besides you and the people you interact with? Why? - Well read about the subject a bit and relate some of the things to your experiences. Learn about hormones, emotions and neuropathways. Think about the sex drive and its purpose for a human being.

Stress is a powerful thing and the easiest way to cope it is with a compulsive habit. The hardest option (which you must prefer as it appear to me that you are that type of person) is to embrace and tame it. Let it possess you and learn from it - then you will find that inner strength you were looking for.

I'm not in college anymore. I only masturbate when I have free time and I don't have time to haggle for sex. You have shit that needs to get done, and you won't have time. Either way, it makes no difference. I don't count how much I masturbate, because it doesn't matter and I don't care. Sometimes I don't get to masturbate at all during a day. I wish I still had time to jack off as much as I used to.

You want to make whether you masturbate or not into some big thing. That's your first problem. You're distracting yourself. You're focusing on something irrelevant which is a waste of time for you to to take into consideration. You think it's your biology. It's not your biology. It's your personality. It's you.

When I don't masturbate, and when I do, it makes no difference. If masturbating causes you to lose your soul, then you have a much bigger problem than jacking off.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11760788

onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1046/j.1365-2605.1999.00196.x/abstract

The general consensus? You take a short break, your testosterone rises. You take too long of break, then your testosterone lowers. The old adage, you don't use it you lose it applies, which is pretty uniform about the body in general. The temporary boost in testosterone is probably more likely the response of the body before it downregulates receptors to reachieve homeostasis.

Gaining superpowers from not masturbating? That's the well documented medical placebo effect.

And even if you want to believe that masturbating saps you of something, it isn't big enough of a difference that other people are masturbating and doing just damn fine in life. You might as well blame all the problems in your life on being 5'5" instead of 6" tall.

The purpose of the sex drive? Now that's out in crazy land, because we weren't designed we evolved, and monkeys jack off all the time just like we do. Masturbating actually helps keep semen fresh and viable, and it reduces the accumulation of damage that results in prostrate cancer. Which means that if you want to believe human beings were designed then that means that human men were designed to masturbate to maintain their sexual health.

Masturbating and your sexual fetishes are not the cause of your failures in life, unless you make them public… Or you have a sexual fetish for being a failure in life.

The problem is not your penis. It's you.

Until you solve the problem of not giving a real fuck about anything in life, your life is not going to go anywhere. And if it isn't masturbating, it'll be something else you blame.

I think you're starting to miss the point here.

The problem isn't wanking off, the problem is the insidious conditioning excessive porn use will cause.

And even though you have a point in your first post, you can't really compare needing to jerk off frequently in high stress situations for catharsis to proto-/r9k/ wizards slowly degrading themselves into abominations to the Dr. Pornstein's Billion Shekel Fleshpit

I've tugged off a couple of times since I nuked my porn stash and I feel fine. Honestly it was the movies sapping me of my imagination and skewing my tastes that was fucking up my loosh, not using my god-given pecker.

Just sayin fam.

I'll go back to my core here. It isn't about porn as much as it is not caring about having children and economics. All the social and economic incentives are against white people. There aren't any real motivating forces and rewards.
You don't need more kids to man your farm. More children means a ridiculous cost in the future because you'll need to send them to college, and it's better planning to have few kids and send them to college than have a bunch. Having a bunch of kids without having it as a full time job on welfare is a ton of stress with little social reward. You'd also have to give up your prosperity and the toys and tools.
The new propaganda of white privilege says that white people are essentially evil and need to eradicate themselves, and white guilt did that before that.
There are sociologists and communists who are making it their full time job to come up with ways to enact genocide on white people and their culture.
And I'm more into the dom stuff than the sub stuff myself, so you can find whatever kind of porn you want. If you're looking for sissy porn, then that's a portion of the pie that someone is intentionally looking for.
They've used every sociological and economic tactic they can think of, and are actively creating new ones, to genocide the white population.
This is a cthulu beast here with tentacles that reach out everywhere. If someone cared enough and there were economic incentives to do so, they'd have kids.
Right now, you have poor minorities get paid by the government and told by their pro-racial organizations that they need to have kids to take over the country. They have tons of kids. They're encouraged to be race conscious as a form of self protection.
White middle class people have to pay for everything, and have to work complicated middle class jobs that are easy to lose if you don't perform and keep ahead of your job requirements. And they're told that it's bad and racist to have kids to stay a majority in their country, so they don't want to offend anybody. Also, hopeless as long as they keep on turning the tap on immigration. So, they don't have kids.
All the minorities have access to the same damn porn everybody else does, and they do fine. Apply occam's razor.

Look for what's different, not the same.

Plenty of men used to be 'betas'. This stuff has been around since forever, but it was handled how gay men used to handle things. They'd have sex with other men, but they'd still have families. And white people had social structures to get them get married anyway as long as they could provide a stable life, and that's what women looked for. Their goal in life was to find a reliable man and get married.
Now you have to do shit like 'game', and white women are chasing after a few of the top alphas.
I'd say that the majority of the damage is on the side of convincing women that they don't need to get married and that reliable stable men aren't what they're looking for. Now they're going back to the chasing after a current top alpha that peaks their interest for a night that our primate ancestors used to do. I'm pretty sure that my father wouldn't have been able to get married in the current social climate.
And Europe was a place where for quite a while some proactive evolution was done where people that stuck out socially or committed crimes were executed or put into the stocks until they starved. We are not the same people as the vikings. A bunch of things happened since then.
Compare that to the jungle in Africa where the guy with the greatest aggression was the most successful.
I remember reading about femdom scandals that happened in the medieval ages. People were doing this shit, no matter what kind of guise they had to put on in public.

The whole system we live in has been set up so that it punishes people with the genetic proclivities of white people.
They don't encourage you to have kids if you follow the law and work an educated job.
They set up the system to encourage you to have kids if you don't.
So, white people don't have kids.

And this whole line of 'porn' reasoning smells to me of unreasonable expectations of how white people are. White people are not the most testosterone pumped up race on the planet.

White people are like the Japanese. That's why people keep on finding synergy and brotherhood there. It's crazy how many evolutionary forces there were paralleling both cultures. I remember listening to skallagrim on youtube cuckingly defend against the claims that his dislike of the katana were racist. And he was saying shit like, he would have preferred to live in Japan back in the middle ages because Europe had all these class systems and discrimination based on your job. And I was laughing to myself about how stupid he was for being so blatantly anti-european without knowing jack shit about Japan… Such as it was the exact same way in Japan. Like the Japanese, White people were culled to be intelligent, reliable and conforming.

As long as you want to believe that white people are everyone and everything, then you'll keep on missing the mark when it comes to figuring out why things are happening. We live in a society that is designed to eradicate white people and replace them. And this is intentional, because sociologists have convinced themselves that white people are the bane of the fucking planet and must be eradicated. They believe that every white baby is a vehicle for evil.

been watching porn since i was 5 on HBO, we knew how to hack the cable box back before internet

I've never been into anything other than missionary position.

I don't get all this crazy porn, who wants to see two dumb sluts fuck each other much less some nigger dick on the screen.

femdom is the gateway to crossdressing/sissy

strapon pegging and 2d futa will lead to futadom and then 3d tranny which will lead to trannydom and sissydom

It's all trying to switch up to find someone who wants you. You aren't chad McAlphabucks so you think if you were a bitch to a woman she might want you. But it's not true. Femdom is a novelty to most women and something many of them struggle with and actually *don't* want. They don't want to dominate men and then certainly don't want a sissy crossdressing bitch as a mate. In fact, they will cuckold you because that's their way of getting out of the relationship. It's a little sadistic, but most women don't actually WANT to hurt your feelings until they can disconnect their love from you and desire from you. Pegging is the gateway to disrespect and toying with the relationship. Once a woman has fucked you like a bitch, it's downhill. You've crossed the threshold. She is not going to feel safe or secure in your arms, she is not going to rely on you or run to you. She is not even going to really want you. She just wants to see how far you'll go till she gets bored. It's an experiment to see just how fucked up you are and how much fun she can have with her stupid toy.

Cuckolding is a method in which women get out of relationships with bitches. Almost every and I think without exception Woman/Beta Bitch relationship is an open relationship. You will will never have her, she will never belong to you. You belong to her like a piece of property, a novelty. Your needs are of extremely minor value and your opinions are trash. Her love for you is sadistic in nature, like a mad scientist love for a warped creation. If you wish to return to your old self and seek help, you will lose her too. She will have no need for her "disobedient" creation. In fact, she is more likely to return to normalcy without you and with her man.

Now some women actually seek out weak men, and the truth is a lot of these women are lesbians who hate the nature of disloyal chaotic women. They want the loyalty and love of a man's mind and the form, pliability, threatless pathetic safety of an emasculated male so she can never feel threatened her "lover" will leave her.

These are all damaged types. From relationships to porn, etc.

I have been in two relationships with beautiful women and any time gender bending pops up a countdown clock starts ticking. Every fetishistic relationship is usually on a timer. That's how people end up old and alone with no kids, men and women.

Personally women are so disloyal and irresponsible it is hard to justify breaking my back for them. Even in a hetero relationship with no kinky shit it is extremely hard to live a red-pilled life, that shit is like poison to almost any woman alive. If I could find a woman to innawoods and traditional family with I would in a heartbeat. But they DO NOT exist.

2 and a half weeks into my nofap. I have never lasted this long.

My balls feel like my 2nd and 3rd heart at times, but I have learned much and the insights come every time I let go of the perversity completely.

All I need to do now is to find and ask someone who is cute and sweet enough to be my girl. It always has been the desire that made me into the beast I was that made me cut off from my self, wank, and be an akward glob of strange, passive-agressive gentle boy, who just was nice to avoid the contact of projected sexification, which is never good to put on anyone unless you want them to be able to control you.

But now I see their desires flip and flop on parade. It really is ding and dong energies revolving, as the chinks say. Sorry, ying and yang.

True, it need to be some-body. But now I can feel the one inside way more clearly, without fear of projecting my images of desire onto someone as much. I want to master this.

Best of luck to you guys out there. Peace.

this is some of the funniest crap I've ever read, pathetic untermensch always make me laugh.
hon hon hon hon

You don't know who I am or what I think, but you do project some funny sentences.

Naw mayn. I want the girl I find to be mine. The only way you can make sure she want to is with the dick.

I need to be able to feel the vibe we call love and be able to cum inside her, which is something I never have done before. The act probably makes it possible for us to dare let go of our fear, love and be loved. That's my theory.

Picking females based on what your testosterone tells you is the worst thing you can do, you have to pick a girl that is loyal, submissive, and not-degenerate, she will make you 1000% happier than a 9.11/10 qt 3.14 that shows you her boobs, takes all your money, bitches all day long, then leaves you for Tyrone

your ideas about love are completely false, childish, and vain.

Fetishes don't destroy relationships, that's retarded. Finding a (real) woman with the same fetishes as you is pretty much like winning the lottery tbh.

Bringing up weird 'poly' or 'genderfluid' shit to girls who aren't into it will definitely sour your chances in the long run tho.

I never said sex is love. I never said female(s). I never said I wanted anything what you say should be good.

I never said anything about testosterone levels, being alpha or any of that sort.

I only know porn is bad for me and how I now interact with my fellow human beings.

The act is important if you wish to make thst kind of bond. Testosterone is perhaps important, but how dare you connect that with what I said, and in such a tone.

Either you believe the game is real or not. I know there's only unconitional love behind that, which is something I have difficulties grasping with my limited mind, but sometimes things get in tune, connect, and interact. Then I know things better than anything I can see, think myself forth to or otherwise try to grasp.

Love is real, but you have to get out of fear first. Fear only leads to death. Love only exists in the present and you're not exactly present if you're trying to get someone in your bed with money, power, status, size of your dick, testosterone levels or some sort of manipulation.

My girl just needs to be able to get in tune with me. I need to stop staring at boobs to do that. It's that simple, really. For me.

Try harder.

Either I baited you hard, and those are your cuck tears, or you are baiting me.

I'll reply anyway.


I need to be able to feel the vibe we call love and be able to cum inside her, which is something I never have done before. The act probably makes it possible for us to dare let go of our fear, love and be loved. That's my theory.

female = girl. cease your autism you bloody cheeky twat

then why are you posting in this thread
there are only 3 ways to get girls, user,
1- be rich
2- be celebrity
3- be chad

does "human being" include mudslimes, kikes, niggers and spics?
you seem like a Jewish shill or a tolerant leftist (SWEDEN YES)

without testosterone, girls will be not interesting to you, at all. you would utterly and completely change


rest of your reply is garbage now even worth replying to

also user, are you underage? you seem awfully underage.

No. You're just awfully judging, rewriting and generalizing. Please do call me names, it changes nothing.

Keep playing the game. Maybe you'll get free someday. Blessings to you.

For the love Odin, please tell me what country this is from. I need to move here.

I disagree. I think the situation here is a little different, partly because you see something like this in many, many pre-modern societies.

First, men are mostly aroused by secondary sex traits, because by the time you see the vagina you already know you're getting some. Biologically, genitals themselves have surprisingly little impact on attractiveness. Would we all agree that, if we had to fuck a transgender, we would pick the ultra-feminine boy rather than the ultra-masculine woman?

Second, human societies are inherently polygamous. Polygamy is based on men of greater status and power having more wives than men with none. Often this greater power is gained violently, as in a war of conquest. Having excessive, humiliating power over a man is biologically thrilling… roughly, because for every male slave, there is an extra concubine.

When you combine feminine young men and a position of power, the lure becomes quite strong, and so we hear of Greek and Roman armies treating conquered women gently, but eagerly raping captured boys. This may even serve a biological purpose - a hard-wired ritual of submission that breaks the young boy's mind and ensures that conqueror will not fear rebellion.

I don't think that's it. There's nothing natural about only being attracted to girls 18+. What's unnatural is that people are allowed to act on sexual attractions without committing to a life together.

I would say it's natural for both men and women to envision aggressive sexual encounters. Where it becomes sick and fetishistic is when all sane rules about what should prevent sexual encounters and what should happen afterwards are thrown away, and "aggressive sex" is replaced with "planning to commit and get away with a crime".

YOU ARE TROLLING
NOW IS TOO OBVIOUS
GET OUT LEFTIST JEWISH SHILL

Lithuania maybe

So help me Kek, I will see this thread hit 751.

Improve yourselves, nignogs.

this thread cant die

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Go unite with Tyrone's cock, you freaking cuck.

lol

That sort of thinking is why we're being outbred by the niggers and sandniggers.

Still wouldn't be too big of a problem as long as:

1) There's no citizenship/vote to outsiders
2) There's no cultivation of a foreign underclass inside your nation's borders

Naturally the West has done both. Thanks, Jews.

kek

Gradually making my way through this thread and I must say its a gem. Minimal shilling, actual discussion, and some real insight into the nature of my own vices and behaviors and how society got to this point. Gonna have to give it a bump for posterity.

TED is shit at this point, and TEDx events are even worse.

shit sliding threads aren't gonna kill this today

Someone post the video of the talk on how sexual deviancy can be used to control society, with a bunch of sloots in a circle taking turns doing hyper-sexualized dance

Shameless Blbump

thank you cap-tain, and OP

This post is so full of speculation, pseudoscience, (((psychology))), false assumptions and projection.
We can't let our vision of the world be influenced by all this bland speculation even if its done by someone on your side, but it seems Holla Forumsacks are easily impressed by catchy Oprah-tier psychological explanations.
I will start believing any of OP nonsense when I start believing jewish psychologists

my self-hatred over my sissy fetish was what originally sent me on my internet crusade to find answers about wtf is wrong with me and eventually ended up here.

I am having a hard time finding the strength to stop looking at porn of it though…. I can't even go a day

I would give ANYTHING to go back in time and stop 11 year old me from touching those clothes at my grand parents house…

atleast switch to 2d

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It's like quitting cigarettes. Cold-turkey simply is not an option for cases that are far out enough.

Focus on slowing down instead of stopping at first. Turn 5 times a day into 1 or 2. Turn once a day into once every other day etc.

Better to make slow, steady progress than to try and break clean, only to relapse hard half a week later.

I should see it as a sign. I've thought quite a bit about he specifics of cutting down, but can't really come to a conclusion. Part of me thinks to just cut porn out entirely and rely on imagination, even if I have to jerk it a lot to calm the urges. Another part is telling me to just watch a few scenes a week so I only fap a few times a week.

One thing is get /fit/ by doing resistance (weights) exercise. This will raise your T and reduce your sweaty palmed anxiety.

The second thing is paying for a real gril to give you a BJ will give you some better peak experience and more reassuring fap material.

Bronies are a subgroup of transitioning furries who think they aren't furries. People have definitely lost interest in bronies though, which is good.

That looks disgusting as fuck objectively speaking.

Good thread guys, thanks OP. I don't have time to read through all this right now, so I appologize if this has already been asked, but does anyone else here actually have more of an addiction to collecting and organizing porn than actually jerking to it? I still have a fap addiction, but the fapping itself isn't the main issue. The issue is the countless hours wasted collecting the porn.

I've managed to delete it all before for nofap, but when I relapse, my collecting/organizing addiction becomes stronger than ever, because I have to start collecting from scratch again.

Simply opening a video or two online doesn't cut it for me any more. My fetishes aren't broad enough to keep things fresh, so my searches online come up with the same shit I've already seen a thousand times.

Before anyone asks - I don't think this is a general OCD sort of thing. This is only an issue with porn.

Hoarding. Yeah, I fall prey to it as well, though I've gotten better lately. Still download a few too many scenes and such, but nothing compared to the hours upon hours of unwatched content I used to scrounge up.

Remember everyone Freud was wrong

You don't deal with wrong sexual urges and behaviors "releasing" repression, anymore than you "release" a crack addiction by smoking it.

If you honestly and openly pray to God, after quieting your heart, he'll help you fix the porn problem.

I have been struggling to stop using porn 100% (I never quite succeed), and 2 weeks ago I prayed to ask for help. God sent dreams to me in which my pornographic fantasies in the porn I watch were juxtaposed and composed of violent and disgusting things; I could see their true nature. I can't quite look at it the same way anymore. I still have to keep my will power to stay away from the filth but after the dreams, I watched it and I was disgusted because I just kept seeing the images from my dreams.

God sees you and helps you when you ask for something like this.

(卐)

Freud was an insufferable cokehead and normalfag (((psychotherapy))) is pseudoscience at best.

And God sent me to reinforce those feelings, what a lucky little fucker you are!

Well that left me feeling a bit ill.
Unusual realy as my tolerance for crazy is fairly high.

Also. That furry sinking into the mud or whatever. Hilarious but I can't help but wonder, whats the story there?

Ah. The medicine is working. Good.
It doesn't really assault the senses so bluntly like goreflooding etc. This shit is dank meme magic son. It plucks at something deep. I knew a NEET who broke down in tears like a little bitch after watching.

I have no idea who made this thing, but I want to see his other work if there is any out there.

Nvm, it's Oneohtrix Point Never

I'm a retard and google is hard.

kill yourself, scum

Did I just witnessed a glimpse of Hell? Complete and utterly disgusting and terrifying.

I'm sure this cured my dark slippery-slope of porn addiction for a long while.
Saved.

__Yes__

someone tell me what this is. im too scared to watch it


ive done this. it was pretty fun actually, scouring sites for hours looking for good pictures to save then fapping at the end. I havent done it in awhile and after this thread i dont think i will again

also, is looking at nudes given to you by girls you know still bad

i think in the pedophilia part he meant real pedophilia as in being attracted to prepubescent girls (which arent really that much different from boys at that age) which is fucked up

im skeptical about it being completely related to worrying about penis size though

I want to give some honest advice to you gents on Holla Forums.

Pornography is degenerate, there is no excuse, there is no amount of logical reasoning that you can make to allow yourself to continue with it.
Worthwhile women don't tolerate it, they won't tolerate past degeneracy, ever watched Beastiality? Hentai? Gore porn? Kiddy porn? Forget a relationship, nobody will ever love you. Once your woman finds out what you've done (and believe me she will), its game over and so it should be.

Women are forced to put up with this crap, I have never met or even heard of a woman who does, but if you genuinely believe there is one out there then good luck and go find her. I guarantee you that even if she is okay with your creepy obsession with teen porn now when shes 25, if you marry and are still together at 55 she won't be.

Porn is so ingrained into our culture today that it has become men's standard of beauty. Its confusing the fuck out of women, because they then try and conform to that standard - which men then see as degenerate, can you see where I'm going with this?

It makes women feel like utter shit about their bodies, causes low self esteem (and to anyone saying that this is an emotional argument I don't give a fuck because relationships are based on emotions and hiding feelings in a relationship only will doom it to fail, I think a major part of society's problems with divorce is people no longer listen to eachother anymore). I read somewhere that in something like 70% of divorces, pornography use was a contributing factor.

How many times have you heard of a woman saying to her partner or just someone else that she hates porn, and isn't okay with it, and it hurts her felings? Only for her to be met with a response of "get over it", "its normal", "all men do it", "don't be a prude". When society treats women like their feelings don't matter, they stop caring about men. They stop loving men. They don't want to get married and they definetly don't want children.

1/2

When men saturate themselves and society in porn, and basically tug themselves over the tattered ruins of white women and white culture, they are teaching the young women in society that this is what is attractive, this is how to be desireable to men. This combined with the low self esteem I mentioned before, it's no wonder that they seek validation everywhere they can and sleep around so much - after all, thats what they thought you wanted. Sluts if they sleep around, 'a waste of time' if they don't put out.

Oh, and this is before I even start to go into pathetic weebs who like loli and hentai and all that crap. You people are truly scum. No woman who has any self confidence or self esteem whatsoever will ever, ever love you. After all, how is she ever supposed to feel beautiful, sexy, valued and important when your standard of beauty up until that point has been some grunting mongoloid esque cartoon a chink spat out?

And going after asians and calling them your "East Aryan Goddesses" doesn't help. A WN woman wouldn't ever touch a race traitor - not even once. Why should she? After all, WN men outnumber WN women, and I'm sure for every degenerate yellow fever one of you, there is one who actually does like white women. Opting out and taking the lazy option of a chink says to white women that you are a loser, a beta, a pathetic faggot who doesn't care about the white race or white women, someone who picked a prostitute instead of a person.

Besides, have any of you even considered how an actual right wing woman would feel about your degenerate fetish for yellow women? How is a white women supposed to believe you when you tell her shes sexy, beautiful, smart and valuable when up until the point, you've been spraying your shorts over every Ling Ling that walks by? After all, aren't you lot always critisizing women for "knowing better" about PUAs by looking at their previous behaviour? The same can be said about going after chinks, any intelligent and race-aware white woman will run, not walk, away from you. Liking chinks doesn't make you 'superior', 'smart' or 'alpha'. It makes you a pathetic beta who would rather cuck your own race then show a woman what a strong man looks like and lead her down the right path.

After all, a man race mixing with a chink CANNOT AND WILL NOT have white children. Asian =/= White. Despite what the media is telling you, the meme of WF/BM isn't a thing, and in actuality the actual race traitor degenerates are the Eastern whores. Don't let them sink their claws into you. They are disgusting, and look at them for what they really are. Mongoloid. Besides, think about it this way. If you (a white man) go and fuck and marry Ling Ling, that means - statistically and proportionally, there will be a white women out there who will not be able to have white children. So you won't be able to have white babies, and your statistical other won't be able to either, you and your chink will have mudbabies (gross). And don't even get me started on you lot's reactions about white women race mixing, (its not like they even want to really). When a white man race mixes and provides for a woman of another race, he is giving his money (resources) from his (white) tribe, to the offspring and family of a non white. Therefore cucking the tribe and leaving a woman from his own tribe without a provider. At least when a woman is forced into race mixing (which they don't really want to do, white women are the least likely to date outside their race), a man from another race is cucking his tribe and instead providing to her.

Anyway, this is just a part of the problem. Porn is the driving force behind all this sick crap and it needs to stop, not just for yourself, but for society. How will white women ever become the Aryan goddesses that you want them to be, when you can't stop tugging it to whores on a computer screen. Stop making excuses and MUH DICK and see it for what it really is, pathetic.

And remember, anti western woman is code word for anti white.

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No one here is gonna argue that porn is a problem, but you sound like a butthurt legbeard in these posts tbh.

While I do agree with you I think you overestimate women. The women are just as degenerate as men and the men are full degenerates. Women really don't care about any of that shit because in my opinion most are looking for an alimony excuse.

tits or GTFO

Good fucking job user that was a good read.

By all means, don't groom yourself and get fat.

There are classical standards of beauty and there's no escaping it, you degenerate legbeard. Being butthurt over porn isn't going to make you attractive.

I've seen your stuff before on here. It's both beautiful and unsettling, keep doing that shit and have a bump.

Feminist or white knight found. Go protest rape culture in colleges.

So, how big of a feminist or mangina are you?

BRB jacking off to lolis.

Holy shit this.


Not me onii-fam but I appreciate the sentiment
see


Watch it fgt

It largely comes back to self control.

If you are actually trying to find a girlfriend/wife, if you're confident and charming, fapping once a week during lean periods is acceptable.

The issue is when fapping replaces these normal human activities. When a man sees a women and stares at the floor instead of making eye contact and smiling, he has a problem and fapping is only making it worse. That man needs sexual drive and energy to better himself, he can't afford to waste it on pixels.

Don't worry about ac602b. Poster's either a feminist throwing a fit or a white knight who puts women on a pedestal.

What about a girl masturbating in video form? Also what about cosplay sluts? I been jerk it to this sorts of stuff lately. Slowly getting away from porn. Slowly not jerk it everyday.

Girls masturbating with a fucking dildo sucks, or any stupid fucking sex toy. I loose my hard on when seeing plastic. Seeing a women use her hand is more sophisticated. Shit her rubbing her crotch on a table counter while washing dishes is better than a fucking toy.

Fuck forgot to spoil that shit! Goddamn it.

Jokes aside, we're all human

Watching girls choke on big rubber dildos pov turns me to diamonds tbh

Yeah, cat ears are bound to lead to a cat tail being inserted in the ass sadly. Then before you know it your jerking off to a person in a fur suit. Luckily I've never gone that far. I don't see thee appeal.

Sadly, I could stop fapping for a hundred years and it would still fill my estus if you know what I mean m8.

you don't happen to jerk of to skeletons too do you user?

pic some what related

Do what Benjamin Franklin did keep a schedule of the days you didn't fap. Check mark the days and by the end of the week, go over it. Each week try to improve. Before you know it you won't need humiliation porn to get off. Once you achieve this never go back. And stop being a good goy user, by saying your shit.

I would a spook

Trump Avatar poster might be the same as Rachposter.

Well that was pretty well made. Damn I feel disoriented.

fag thread

I read through your posts and all I saw was assertion after assertion. This is the same sort of shoddy scholarship that guides the people, whom I know in real life, who always regale me with tales of Atlantis, and the falsity of evolution, and aliens having abducted the Incas, and the bullshit of Deepak Chopra.

I know what I'm doing is pointless, because I'll just be shot down as a degenerate, but I will point out the errors in your methodology.

Anecdotal evidence
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data". You might have conducted many interviews with NoFappers that resulted in the same answers, but they are a self-selected group of cultish weirdos, many of whom make masturbation responsible for all their woes in life. I invite anyone to visit them and judge the sanity of these people for himself.

Pegging explanations to data
Let's just say that this is true. This is just a statement of fact, not an explanation of anything. You plausibly say that this is true, but then you attach an explanation for it without any supporting evidence. Specifically:
This is contradicted by data from eye movement studies and statistics from porn sites. Some neuroscientists conducted a study, the results of which they published in a book called "A Billion Dirty Thoughts". They give a 20-minute presentation on YT [1].

It is shown that males primarily pay attention to 4 visual cues: breasts, ass, feet, penises. This is consistent across cultures. I won't speculate as to why, but this would explain that fascination with traps/futas equally well: a girl with a dick possesses 4 of the visual cues instead of 3. You might say that traps are part of a certain process of gradual perversion of natural sexual desire; they would say that they just tap into a pre-existing one. Neither explanation flows unambiguously from the data.

Autogynephilia
Transsexuality is a compicated and poorly-understood subject, but here, you commit the same error: you take some phenomenon and then peg your explanation for it to it without any evidence. Not even Blanchard (the man who coined the phrase) said that autogynephilia simply comes about as a result of porn. In fact, he wrote [2]:


By the way, you also misrepresent Blanchard and sexology as a whole. You make it sound as if Blanchard were the Kevin MacDonald of sexology, but his views on e.g. pedophilia would make him an 1A degenerate in the eyes of Holla Forums. Sexology as a whole never defended family values either and people have always been degenerate.

Self-esteem as an explanation of fetishism

You say that (IR) cuckoldry, furrydom, scat, pedophilia onto low self-esteem. Even if people who are into these things had low self-esteem, that correlation wouldn't prove causation, as the low self-esteem could be due to shame or social stigma. Maybe porn causes low self-esteem and fetishes, i.e. low self-esteem is a side-effect. However, you don't even provide evidence that it is so. As far as I know, you just made this up.

Furthermore, your explanation of the desire to dominate others reeks of trying to fit a round peg into a square hole:

So wanting to be cucked is due to low self-esteem, and wanting to cuck others is due to low self-esteem as well? A theory can't just fit any possible result; that'd make it meaningless.

Negative effects of porn

Now, does porn have adverse effects? Very plausibly yes. While I haven't looked up the data on this - take note on how we differ in our representation of claims -, I could imagine decreased penile sensitivity from all the rubbing, the development of socially stigmatized fetishes as part of this desensitization, decreased likelihood of searching for a partner because you're always sexually satisfied.

This is all well and good and I'd say that these effects, if real, would be reason enough to cut back on porn consumption. However, you made the methodologically fundamentally illegitimate step of attaching this whole mythology about self-esteem and autogynephilia to it, which tells a nice story, but which is not supported by any evidence you provided.

[1] youtube.com/watch?v=p-A8GvUehq4
[2] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blanchard's_transsexualism_typology

Consequences of unjustified explanations

"You're just unduly sceptical", one might say. "His story sounds legit and porn is harmful."

The issue is not whether porn is hamful, or even what recommendations you give, OP, but how you explain this (possible) harm. A very good example of the consequences of attaching arbitrary explanations to data is Ancel Keys' "Seven Countries Study" [1], in which he compared dietary patterns and heart disease in seven countries and found that developed countries had a higher incidence than shitholes (I won't use the term "developing country" because we all know those places will never develop shit).

He then claimed that this difference in incidence was due to saturated, mostly animal, fats, and recommended that the consumption of butter, eggs, read meat, and milk be lowered in favor of unsaturated fats and carbohydrates. I'd say that this makes him the single greatest contributor to our current obesity epidemic - both trans-fats (industrially produced isomers of some unsaturated fats) and refined carbohydrates (which include refined sugar) are now know to cause heart disease and obesity:

Keys' Error
So what did Keys do wrong? He observed a real phenomenon (increased incidence of heart disease in developed countries), looked at underlying differences which might explain it (diet) and then arbitrarily picked one difference as the explanation. That is the crucial error. There were loads of differences between the populations: sugar intake, pesticides, exercise, intake of saturated fats, intake of unsaturated fats, carbohydrate intake, types of carbohydrates eaten,… Then he discounted all of them but one and declared:


That's like giving 8 kinds of drug to a cancer patient, observing that his condition improves, and then declaring that drug 3 did the trick. Hell, it's like being that one bitch I know who takes homeopathic pills. She says things like this with a completely straight face:


Ya fucking think, bitch? Fucking cunt. I hate her so much.

Anyway: the point isn't that your theory is inherently crazy or that Keys was a priori wrong; the point is that you employ incorrect reasoning in support of it. It might be true that low self-esteem causes fetishes and porn leads to autogynephilia. It might be true that cancer drug 3 really did the trick. You did not, however, argue well that it is so.

[1] sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0091743584900471
[2] ajcn.nutrition.org/content/71/6/1455.short
[3] jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=195543

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Holla Forums is good for keeping up-to-date on Kike machinations, opposition to the degenerate practices propagated by them, and meme magic, but you have to be a very discerning consumer of the sociology and psychology offered here. If you just invite Holla Forums to dictate all aspects of your life, you'll end up as a gibbering, neurotic wreck.

As nefarious as Jewish influence is, there is a tendency to ascribe every evil in the world to them and to stigmatize everything but the most milktoast, almost caricaturistic family-values stuff. It's an understandable reaction to the depraved world around us, but you have to realize that there's some silliness to it. I don't want mentally ill sexual deviants stalking our women's bathrooms any more than the next Holla Forumsack, but the idea that anyone who shakes his willy more than twice after a piss should be summarily executed is really just a form of edgy trolling. If you take it 100% seriously, you'll end up like this guy:

- Ignatius of Loyola, Founder of the Jesuits

The problem is SSRI's and consumption of processed foods. It's fucked up our minds and our bodies.

i wish Holla Forums was like this all the time
though now im confused as to whether i should quit fapping or not

It won't hurt you, but it probably won't unlock the Eldritch Majicks of the Cosmos either.

Jesus christ.

Cold turkey was incredibly hard for me. I was able to slowly ween myself off this past two or so months. Still doing it but much much less now…

greetings from /cuteboys/ ~

Neither, I'm a 6 month nofap that's been pulling his blonde around by her leash, and she loves it.
Or are you suggesting autogynophilia isn't the pinnacle of cuckoldry, that pornography isn't the means by which a cuck is had?

DIE YOU FUCKING SLAG

Truly the nadir of argumentation. "You can't reason logically". "Crap". "Creepy obsession with teens". "Porn makes women feel like shit". "I read somewhere". Women's feelings.

Just to engage in a tiny amount of the logical argumentation in which you don't believe:
1. Men will always like teens, with or without porn.
2. Any woman who's more beautiful than them makes women feel like shit.
3. It is not society's duty to pander to woman's whining and it is such pandering that has gotten us into our current predicament.

The last sentence, especially, could have come right from a slam poetry contest:

Porn devalues our bodies and rapes our souls. LISTEN, MEN you abusers of women's spirits! When you would rather spend an evening with an IMAGE rather than a PERSON, when you treat us like our FEELINGS don't matter, women stop caring about men. They stop loving men. We have spoken. We are speaking. Listen to us.

Whatever you say, future serial killer.

Hoarding is an almost indomitable human urge. Humans developed around relative scarcity, so they have a propensity to consume and store everything in sight: food, money, tools, bottles, porn, movies,…

A few examples: people
have libraries of books they'll read at most once,
have HDDs full of movies and games they'll never watch/play again,
fill up their garage/cellar with old hammer, tongs, screwdrivers, bits of leftover paint, and a bunch of other stuff that's basically garbage.

"I could always use this" is an extremely powerful instinct. Not only that, but you'll feel deep regret if you do throw something away and find yourself in need of it later.

If you want to wean yourself off porn (though this applies to throwing things away in general), don't delete your collection; the only thing that'll happen will be what you yourself described: the urge will come back stronger and you'll just create an even bigger collection. The distress over having lost a collection you might need someday, and the feeling of regret when you do want to fap, will only entrench the hoarding behavior.

First throwing things away and then stopping to use them almost never works. You first have to stop using them and then, when you've convinced your sub-conscious mind through long periods of disuse that you don't need them, you can throw them away. You can only comfortably throw away things which your mind perceives as useless. If you throw away that which it assesses as valuable, it'll just make you collect them anew later.

My nigga.

You filthy fucking degenerate

Porn is irrelevant. Seriously, this has been shill thread from the very beginning.

Stop wasting people's time and let's get back to Holla Forums and memeing.

Not with that attitude lad.