Pope tells Europe to tear down all walls against immigration

Pope Francis said Friday he dreamed of a Europe in which “being a migrant is not a crime”, as he urged EU leaders to “tear down the walls” and build a fairer society.

Invoking the memory of the EU founding fathers’ pursuit of integration in the aftermath of World War II, the pontiff said they inspired because they had “dared to change radically the models” that had led to war.

“Today more than ever, their vision inspires us to build bridges and tear down walls,” he told a Vatican audience including German Chancellor Angela Merkel, who has been at the centre of the EU’s attempts to resolve its biggest refugee crisis since the war ended in 1945.

And in a rhetorical flourish with echoes of Martin Luther-King’s legendary ‘I have a dream’ speech, the pope said he dreamed of a new European humanism that embraced the poor, the elderly, the young and the sick.

“I dream of a Europe where being a migrant is not a crime but a summons to greater commitment on behalf of the dignity of every human being,” he said.

Francis’s comments came in a speech as the 79-year-old pontiff was presented with the EU’s Charlemagne Prize for his contribution to European unification.

Having unexpectedly decided to accept the award, Francis delivered a typically hard-hitting message to listeners that also included the heads of the EU’s main institutions, the Council, the Commission, the Parliament and its central bank.

“What has happened to you, the Europe of humanism, the champion of human rights, democracy and freedom?” he asked. “What has happened to you, Europe, the home of poets, philosophers, artists, musicians, and men and women of letters?”

Francis has made the cause of migrants trying to reach Europe one of the defining themes of his papacy.

He has regularly railed against the “indifference” of western societies to their plight and last month he made a high-profile visit to Lesbos, the Greek island on the frontline of the crisis, returning to the Vatican with three Syrian families seeking asylum from the civil war ravaging their homeland.

He has also attacked what he says is an arbitrary division being made between asylum seekers and so-called economic migrants — a distinction at the heart of Merkel and other EU leaders’ vision of how to resolve the crisis.

Borrowing a phrase from writer and Holocaust survivor Elie Wiesel, the Argentinian pontiff said Friday that Europe needed a “memory transfusion” to free itself from the temptation of “quick and easy short-term political gains.”

And after that reference to the migrant crisis, Francis went on to say Europe had to fundamentally change its economic model to give the continent’s youth the security they needed to build a new world.

“If we want to rethink our society, we need to create dignified and well-paying jobs, especially for our young people,” he said.

“To do so requires coming up with new, more inclusive and equitable economic models, aimed not at serving the few, but at benefiting ordinary people and society as a whole.

European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker and European Parliament President Martin Schulz explained the decision to give the award to such a regular and prominent critic of the EU in a column for France’s Le Monde.

“Some will joke that the European Union must be in a bad way if it is in need of papal assistance,” they wrote.

“We are convinced that Pope Francis deserves this prize, however, simply because he has sent Europe a message of hope.

“Perhaps we needed an Argentinian to turn his outsider’s gaze on the innermost values which bind us Europeans together, to remind us of our strengths.

After all, at times when the words ‘Europe’ and ‘crisis’ are often uttered in the same breath it is easy to forget what Europe has achieved and what it is capable of”.

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Eurotrash like their nice, feel good rhetoric that invokes thought of puppies, bunnies, and rainbows. "Tear down those evil walls!" they'll be chanting, as their mothers, daughters, and sisters are rape and killed. All that matters to Eurotrash is their image, which must align with the norm created by the mainstream media.

he will die with no honor.

The hypocrisy of that bastard is nothing short of astounding.

Catholics are as bad as Jews and will need to be killed once natsocs take over. Reminder that Catholics tried to sabotage the Third Reich.

The pope is an immigrant in Europe in Rome
He can just be deported
The italians will eventually overrun the vatican
sure thing

Christcuckery strikes again.

Words cannot describe the hatred I have for this man these days. It really does tell a fucking story that so-called radical left now counts as an ally the unfailingly reactionary institution in European history,

Time to slay the whore lads

Is there a way to tell Liberace's ball-fiddler here to drink bleach? This fucking stroke needs to die by Muslim hands otherwise.

I have nothing constructive to add, I just needed to vent my frustrations. GOD I hate these pussies!

Lel. Commiecucks just can't resist themselves.

DEPORT THE POPE

he's an antipope and a heretic (see his 'amoris laetitia' faggotry, among countless other examples

his words should mean nothing to a catholic with any brain cells

This is what happens when you let a South American spic be in charge of the Vatican.

is it time for a good old antipope yet?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antipope

As if the previous popes were much better.

Who knew.

Jesus Christ was named Yahushua van Haren and lived as a tibetan monk for almost a dozen years following his resurrection and supposed ascension to heaven. This man did die, but upon his return to earth he was not suddenly called back to some bearded cloud father. He shifted dimensions and teleported thousands of miles away outside the Himalayan mts, and learned about the 'God' through Buddhist perspective. Then Aang broke Yahushua's dong one day playing airbenderball and his corpse was collected by udder spacial allens the same night, biologically reconstructed, and continued with universal evolution elsewhere.

Some jews scavenged his identity and some ancient egyptian mythology and wrote a fucking maze to confuse goyim and pushed their octopus institution into all corners of europe. Now it's like Europe belongs to Christianity and vice versa and always has, when this is simply not the case.

The church is an organization based on deceit and lies, and the proof is there in the Vatican archives. They've known about Yahushua's stolen identity, the origins of the black plague, and the complete scientific findings during the church's reign.

The bible is a maze beginning when you first read and exit when you fully understand. If you read it from cover to cover from the most accurate translations, it brings you to the next understanding of spirituality itself.

jk, you'll go 'lolwut a fukn dum book'

No wonder Poland is so pissed.
They had their Pope who helped them escape communism and adored him.

And now in comes Mss. Cuckpope and invites a bunch of foreign muslims into their country.
And not only that!
As said

He supports communism!

This isn't an actual pope.
The "Church" officially ended at vatican II.
Everything that has come since has been to destroy mans faith in "God". Essentially to destroy the idea of "hope".

all bullshit, this is just the church of cuckery shape-shifting once again to survive a changing climate
whatever the fuck they were originally they are also a collection of corrupt and wealthy old men, if the church had any truth to what they practiced canon law and canon lawyers wouldn't exist

Can we just get an Antipope already? Fucks' sake I'm sick of this wanker being a massive fucking kike while pretending to be the Pope.

Let's have an honest discussion: more Muslims or converted Muslims?

What would make someone that kills the Pope ?

It's not so much Catholics as Christians in general. Individual Christians are fine, but priests and the devout Christians who go to Church all the time have imbibed its spiritual poison.

Anti-Christian!

Oh, fuck off already. Just because some innawoods white with their special brand of Christianity don't cuck themselves out to the savage hordes does not mean 99% of all Christians aren't gigantic cucks.

The Church is against borders and national sovereignty, they do not believe in the existence of human races.

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Honestly this
Bringing up quotes from Christian figures from the medieval era and claiming no true Christian doesn't hide the fact that the majority of the faith is completely lost

I wonder how many popes are rolling in their graves right now.

At least the "heathens" and tru-Christians at least that this spic must go.

all of them probably

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Are we really going to play No True Scotsman and pretend Christians on Holla Forums represent the mainstream and popular opinions of Christians in the West?

Prepare for the christcucks going "not true christianity" or "he is not the real pope :(((" even though muslims pull the exact same shit. Maybe we should call them 'christkikes' since they are just as delusional and hypocritic as jews.

Hell is forever!

Who are you to decide that?

How can something that does not exist last forever?

It's forever, user. That's information for you.

Hell is starting to look like the better alternative. At least Satan won't put me on the same circle as the leftists.

Nice! Saved.

Satan probably has enough leftists that he can put them to use as a punishment for anyone who wasn't a cuck but somehow still made it to Hell. Imagine being on fire while listening to Carl accuse you of being a fucking white male for all eternity, and that's probably what Hell would look like if anyone from Holla Forums ever went there.

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Christianity needs to be purged from this continent ASAP. Anyone who defends this marxist is a traitor.

B.b.b.b–BUT Hitler was a christian!!! He used it to win favor with german Christians whom at that time were a majority.

Christianity is literally the Jew-tool that weakened our society to the point of retardation. Holla Forums needs to uncuck themselves from this shit semetic ideology.


These cowards are to ill equipped to preach proper nationalism to their own flock in churches, the only thing they regurgitate is shit the clergy tells them to which is to peaceful, loving, passive and allow yourself to be conquered. In fact, become a cuck while your at it. Oh and also remove your foreskin, because you know… jew invented control mechanism.

Antifa is literally filled with christian cucks.

Getting so sick and tired of these christian retards derailing threads by trying to win favor. FUCK OFF!

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Yes go- guy, drive away anyone who doesn't have your exact brand of political beliefs, all two of us will surely win in the end!

memes always write themselves

Using christianity to suit our needs, easy. Letting them even one inch of control is none negotiable.

No different from how most leftists, whether useful idiots or the ruling elite, tend to live in gated communities while constantly encouraging everybody else to diversify as much as possible.


Holla Forums is probably shittier at real politik than any other activist organization I've ever heard of.

See: I'm a polish christian, i'm a german pagan

You can lame Christians but the truth cuckoldry a white thing. SJWs are anti-christians atheists yet they're cucks. Pigskin are the lowest of the races. Are swedes Christians too?

Nice framing, there are plenty of agnostics whom are nationalistic and dislike any religion.

Nice sarcasm, there are plenty of posts that use sarcasm as a way to deflect truth.

Can't we all just agree that Semitic religions were a mistake?

Here is one of them.

All the Abrahamic religions are bad, yes.

Good popes come and go, just like bad popes. The church has been 'dying' for 2000 years. We survive not because of the leadership, but in spite of the leadership. We shouldn't give up just because we got a poor leader right now. It just goes to show how much more we should have valued what we had while we had it.

Sorry Pope. No one gives a shit. Go back to sucking on muslim toes.

I am ashamed of being a cuckolic.

Seriously Holla Forums how do I convert to something else?

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The Church survived because they, like the Jew, have the survival instincts of vermin.

They are now stabbing whites in the back because they don't need them anymore. The majority of Christians are of the subhuman kind.

The morals Christianity teaches are not exclusive to Christianity.

You can throw as many tantrums as you like and accuse me of being a kike all you want, doesn't change the fact that Christianity is a religion that embraces this cucking.

Tell me, what would Jesus do if confronted with a starving, savage horde of niggers bearing upon Europe?

youtube.com/watch?v=5FBUEfdPDOQ&feature=youtu.be.
i think the pope needs a History lesson

This thread isn't going anywhere, as long as you don't start considering this:

youtube.com/watch?v=9KAvK4Q9dEM

What good to expect from the chief of a dark child-abuse sect of shabbos goys?

What is this discussion about? I see no difference!

Eruope and only Eruope? White countries for everyone!

Well it's settled, I'm joining an Orthodox Church

No, Jesus Christ's brother Isukiri was the one who died on the cross, while Christ went to Japan.

just fucking kill me now fam, theres no longer any reason to live without sides

Globalist religion must be stopped.

Each race must have their own pantheons.

Each race must worship their ancestors, not foreign gods.

If this Pope don't fucking stop we're gonna have to throw out Christ and bring back Thor.

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Christians are such good goys they are dragging us all into the multicultural hellhole with them.

Thank you!

This fucking idiot is really starting to piss me off.
I don't give a fuck about your white dress or that ridiculous hat you wear, you are just another zionist puppet piece of shit just like any other traitorous whore sons in the EU.
Fucking criminal, day for the rope for you as well you commie scum.

The pope is not radical left, his ideas are mainstream.
Mainstream: feminism, beta nu-males, islamophilia, being-gay-is-wonderful, etc.

Yeah, this is their bid for control. No borders, no states, just religion to tell the masses what to do. It's always been their end goal, organized religion is just another means of gaining power and controlling the people.

Organized religion go against spirituality and so against religion itself.

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You ever wonder if NatSoc had sided with Rothschild instead of Catholics, maybe they would still be around? Jews only hate Aryans because of Christianity… I'm sure Rothschild would have been happy to make money defeating Stalin, placed their bets on both. Plus Commie didn't care about Zionism, but the NatSoc had the Havvar Agreement.

That's why the world is full of fucking stupid white people, mixed with fucking Muslims and Indians like Europe or America. Spartan fathers would throw you off a fucking cliff at birth.

No they hate them becouse of being successful

Hello chaim. Bolshevik leadership was majority jewish. Soviet Union was a jewish creation from the start. And got sabotaged when it didn't serve it purpose anymore.

Moron, I was talking about Stalin's Soviet Union. Stop fucking attacking everybody you piece of shit. You're too stupid to regulate this board. When Stalin took over, even though Jews still controlled, the DID NOT LIKE THE IDEA OF CENTRALIZED JEWRY, and preferred WORLD Jewry. While at the time some Rothschild's remained Palestinian Zionists.
Well, they don't hate the Asians… They always say they want to destroy Europe because of the past "persecution" by Christians. Rome is gone so they can't destroy that.
Hitler had already made a deal with the German Zionist council, so something went wrong. I think it was Catholicism again.

It already is not a crime if you migrate legally you pedofuck.

The EU had nothing to do with that. Two nuclear armed superpowers having a standoff we call the cold war did that.

nice job outing yourself.

Well well a certain Chosen in certainly mad when ousted. Don't like being called a jew, jew?

TBH I don't know why you're trying to muddy the waters here.
It doesn't matter what a normal jew wants, he is but cattle to be slaughtered. The end goal is NWO run from Jerusalem laid out by the Elders.

What are the Opium wars, what is the Taiping rebellion, what is the CCP, what is Cultural Revolution, what is the Great Leap Forward, what are the two nukes in Japan, what is Fukushima. Asians aren't that ingenious as whites are but they are distrustful of foreigners. Jews hate them for that.

They want to destroy it becouse it's their only competition. White man is smarter than a Jew and a builder. Jew is just a master of deception and a destroyer. He is jealous of aryan accomplishments.
Christianity was just a dormant virus which was changed to be lethal in Vatican 2 and was to be released when the NWO plan comes to its conclusion in 2016 as you can see in the current Anti-Pope. Fatima was surprisingly accurate.

He trusted the jew becouse he wanted to be left alone and build his own nation.
The point wasn't in removing them from Germany. It was the destruction of a competitive non-usury system which was so successful that many world governments would fall out of the jews grasp forever. He didn't stand a chance from the start

All in all you're a disinfo kike. Gas yourself.

Friendly reminder.

Do you people have any idea how pathetic and laughable that phrase is?

Oh, I get it… You're a D/C /Christians/. Not a Holla Forumslack…. And you think you're intelligent because you lurk and lurk and repeat. You're not intelligent.

For Zionists… Marxist Jews feared it because it puts a target on their doings. They want total control, not wars with Arabs for the next 100yrs. That's why the Nazis wanted to give them Palestine, they knew how they would behave… Also deportation. Zionism = Communism, but there was a split when Moses Hess and Marx stopped getting along. Jews are batshit crazy, remember? They can't even get along in Israel.

You mean Jews want world Jewery? Isn't that what I just said?
the rebellions were necessary to purge the death cult of Christianity which always brings in Jewish usury. Chinese don't want you kike worship.
I thought that was the East Indian Trading corp… Started by British royalty in competition with the rising middle class merchant shipping companies. Either way selling drugs, slaves, and whores is what Jews do best. Is that hate or their nature?
and the other two were obvious you fucking idiot…WW2

Bullshit, you kike worshipers had been causing race mixing since the Colonial days. YOU created Islam which is responsible for the lost of 30,000yr in Europe when whites were NEVER defeated until you fucked over our natural morale

Yeah but they couldn't beat him if he had split the Jew against Jews…and killed Catholic church which betrayed him at every step. See Trump's speech on Western Civilization, anti-GLobalism, and protecting Israel.

How about Christians stop being cucks so we can stop calling them cucks?

Eternal reminder: One cannot be a racially aware traditionalist AND worship a member of a foreign race and a god created by a foreign race. All Christcucks are race traitors, slaves to the Semites that are our enemies. Let no cuck fool you, EVERY SINGLE MAJOR CUCKSTIAN CULT advocates for white genocide through immigration and reconciliation with Semites.

Holy fuck can some Italian kill him already. Why has nobody done it.

This is true… Christianity no longer unites whites to fight against our enemies in any way, therefore it has served its purpose and is now useless.

We need to go back to the beliefs of our ancestors, at least their religions were based on race. For example, no non-Aryan was able to enter Valhalla.

D&C

Pagans are honestly retards. You idiots try to promote this idea of "etno-centric religion", but it falls apart when you have to assert that your gods are in fact "true" while all others are false. You cannot have an almighty creator god without them being universal and applicable to all people, or else your god is essentially worthless and can be discarded as nonexistent from the get go. How could you possible assert that your gods exist when you don't claim your god applies universally to all people? If other people can have their own gods that are different from yours, then how could you claim that yours are even real?

I'm not even religious, so don't respond with your cancerous "christcuck" meme. I'm just tired of you idiots being logically inconsistent.

Yup, Christcucks.

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how can a god be both "true" and only apply to one group of people? If you accept that your gods aren't true for anyone else but yourselves, then you're basically admitting that your gods don't exist. You're turning a religion, which is supposed to be an objective, eternal truth, into a subjective truth that can be ignored/dismissed at a whim

And again, I'm not even religious. Please be consistent, LARPer

the only thing this is doing is driving people away from "the church", even fucking jesuits. no i'm not even kidding. keep it up you pieces of shit, and the church will more certainly transform: and not in the way you imagine.
one day, i'm going to just walk right into the vatican and sit my ass down and not leave. i'll convince as many smelly homeless people as i can to do the same. i'll fucking flood your shitty buildings until you relent.
don't even know what you're talking about.
it isn't, retard.
unification, eh? this award is now worthless.
yeah! what is fucking happening to us!? you want to change us? fine! you can't have your cake and eat it too.
i'll make it my cause to cast as much doubt on the church as possible, especially your papacy you political puppet.
blurring the lines, eh? fucking with definitions, eh? nothing is distinct! you're a marxist puppet piece of shit. i've had enough of you.
memory transfusion, lel.
you ARE the short term political gain.
we send the jews to argentina. it'll be what's best for them.
under your guidance, it won't be capable of shit.

Precisely my point when these left-wing middle class teenagers go about claiming to be these hard-edgy vanguards of the future when the fucking Pope supports what they're doing.

Are you mentally challenged or something? Where does it say that a god has to be the god of all humans?

You're making us fedoras look bad by being this retarded. Kindly desist.

If you accept that your god is only a personal truth that applies only to your people, and any other people can dismiss it if they want to and have their own person truth/god, then you're basically accepting the fact that your "god" doesn't really exist in an absolute sense, and thus he is merely your people's creation. How can you claim your god is a creator if you accept that his existence only applies to you, and other people may simultaneously have their own creation stories with their own gods that are equally valid?

If god is not universal, then he cannot be said to exist. Likewise, if "truth" is merely subjective and can change depending on who you ask, then truth cannot be said to exist.

More Muslims who stay Muslims or more Muslims who convert to Christianity.

what does your picture mean by "pagan"?

Pope slaughtering trips confirm

Threadly reminder that this guy is setting up the final step of globalism and the end of the world, that peter guy he likes so much is going to be the next pope that kills us all

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_Popes

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You are working from the definition of religion propagated by Semites. Traditionalist religions are all racially subjective because they are all outgrowths of ancestor worship and naturalistic shamanism. It is the very pursuit of "higher truth" which is used to justify rebelling against the racialist spirituality which led to the creation of civilization. There is no truth higher than racialism, because that is a manifestation of the natural order and there is no unknowable divinity which lies beyond the natural order.

And just to point out, I never advocated any sort of paganism. I don't care what you worship as long as it isn't a member of a foreign race or a god created by a foreign race. Belonging to a foreign tradition simply indicates that one is a race traitor.


The "creator" role in traditionalist religions was never taken to mean the true creator of everything. In folk religions, deities were either natural concepts given personas or folk heroes ascended to divinity. The creator god role in traditionalist religions has always been the role of the first architect of civilization, the founder. Members of society use their version of the monomyth to keep the culture of their ancestors intact by retelling and re-living the stories which derive from their founding values.

Understanding the foundations and functions of religion in human society can only lead to the understanding that accepting foreign ideology is the absolute greatest taboo which ensures the destruction of one's culture. That is why I cannot accept a tradition started by Semites that involves the worship of a Semite and a god created by Semites. To do so is to ensure that we will never have a European culture.

That is a go-to assumption by Christcucks, that if you criticize them you are either atheist or pagan, and then they set about criticizing those two belief systems, as with even if what they are talking about has nothing to do with you.

It's because they can't defend Cuckstianity, adopting foreign beliefs is simply indefensible for anyone even close to racially aware. That's the reason they push " muh kike on a stick" as a meme: to try and defuse the FACT that Jesus was nothing more than a mortal Semite who might have started a proto-Marxist cult (or who might not have existed at all). There's no way to justify worshiping a foreigner other than to deceive others until that foreigner isn't seen as foreign. Universalist religion is a cancer that eats civilizations and spits out slave nations.

Your image says "Christianity was the linchpin of white people's success." It got me thinking that it's reversed. White people are the linchpin of Christianity's success. Everything good that came from Christianity came by virtue of the believers.
If Christianity remained in the Middle East (like it should have) it would be indistinguishable from Islam. Almost every aspect of Islam has an analog to Christianity. Christianity today is the same, but because it is believed by White people it isn't a destructive wave of shit and rape with stoning, beheadings, and everything else that makes Islam so peaceful.
Europe and European history would lose nothing if Christianity never tainted it, and gain everything.
Christianity was made good by White Europeans, but was subverted from the start by the Jews who created it

Agreed.

On another note, I would say the biggest problem is the nature of the Abrahamic religions. Christians and Muslims have a toxic obsession with converting others and using the state on their behalf, like Jews do.

Other religions throughout history were mostly about what a religion should be about: spirituality. Many played politics a little to get in the good graces of governments, but nothing like the fucking sick shit that the Abrahamic religions have done. Wars of religion are basically unknown outside of shit done by Christians & Muslims.

Well then you and I are clearly assuming different things about Pagan religions. Pagan religions such as the ones practiced by the Norse gods or the Ancient Romans all had very distinct gods that were worshiped in different ways, and they all had their own distinct creation myths. It seems to me that you're conflating a belief/acceptance of natural law with "muh odin" or "muh zeus" paganism.

How can a pagan claim their creation myth is true without it applying to all of humanity and the world? How can multiple creation myths be equally true depending on who you ask? Having ethno-centric gods that are "true", but only apply to one group of people is like claiming "truth" is subjective depending on who you ask. It just sounds like an oxymoron to me

I'd like to reiterate that I am not a Christian or Pagan myself. I would consider myself agnostic/atheistic full all intents and purposes, but I strongly believe in a universal truth dictated by natural law. Not sure exactly what you'd call that.

Why should we worship anyone at all? Regarldess of whether they're "foreigners" or "pure blooded aryan warriors", worshiping anything seems like complete lunacy to me. If there's anything we should "worship", and I use that term incredibly loosely, it should be natural law. By "worship" I pretty much mean accept that natural law exists and structure your society and worldview around this fact.

What are you talking about? Pagans regularly killed Christians or forced them to convert.

Just face the fact that humans kill other humans regardless of what sky fairies they worship. This is a simple fact of reality.

When I realized pity indeed amplifies misery, I stopped being a Christian. Pity makes like infinitely worse. Pity will bring war to Europe. Pity will make groups hate one and other in the end. Pity is the enemy if life.

Is the pope really Chris Jericho?
youtube.com/watch?v=IQXGa6N10Nk

Because it doesn't apply to all of humanity and the world, it applies to the blood and soil of its adherents. The entire point of racialist spirituality is that it is not universal truth, it is racial truth.


Just go read The Hero with a Thousand Faces and The Golden Bough. How traditionalist religions incorporated the existence of the natural order into the monomyth and why religion is important for civilization will be clear. To put it simply, worship doesn't mean praying to mystical sky dudes for protection, it means emulating culture heroes whom one is related to through blood and soil in order to continue the civilization they built, one inherits, and then passes on to the next generation.


And? Europeans killing Semites isn't something to care about, but Semites killing Europeans for refusing to convert and using converted Europeans to aid in such murders IS a reason not to participate in the Semitic tradition (beyond the greater reason of remaining free from foreign influence).

If every Cuckstian had been killed before the Roman Empire was infiltrated and corrupted, Europe would be free of liberalism and foreign invaders today. Accepting a foreign savior was the first step in the breakdown of traditionalist society. NOTHING can be improved until we reverse that folly. Cuckstians will always betray the race for their Semitic beliefs because those beliefs include the notion that the "higher truth" of the Semitic god is greater than racialism. Being a race traitor is the basic idea which allows for Cuckstianity to successfully subvert new populations.

Ha ha, no.


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Myth_of_Persecution

What persecution there was did not have to do with their being a religion, which the Romans didn't care about, but being a dangerous & power-hungry cult, as was later confirmed.

Subjective truth is not truth. You cannot have a subjective absolute truth. It's a complete oxymoron


Except the vast majority of pagan religions do worship multiple gods, and have different creation myths that "explain" how the world was created. Revering your ancestors and emulating their successes is not the kind of "worship" I'm referring to, nor was it the only kind of worship that took place in Pagan societies. You cannot deny that European Pagans all had their own set of gods which they worshiped in their own ways using different idols or shrines. Zeus and Hades were pretty specific gods.


No. You tried to claim that a problem with Abrahamic religions was that they were expansionist and they tried to force their subjects to convert. In this case you're attacking the expansionist nature of semetic religions while outright claiming that other religions throughout history (heavily implying paganism) were not like this. I just pointed out how this is clearly false and European pagan societies regularly did the same. Stop trying to move the goal post.


This is completely dishonest and you know it. The Roman Empire was christianised between 300-500 AD. There were MANY militaristic, extremely conservative societies that existed from this time right up until the modern era. Europe was incredibly expansionist, racist, and aggressive during a time when it was still very Christian. If it was Christianity that cucked Europe, it would have happened over a thousand years ago.

Yes. There are parts of the bible that can be used to promote cuckoldry in our societies, but they were never interpreted that way a century or two ago when Europeans were steamrolling the rest of the world. Those parts of the bible have been used to push a racially destructive narrative in the West as part of a greater level of subversion. This is why I don't advocate a revival of christianity. I think it's a fully dead religion. I believe what we need to promote in the West is a new belief system based around natural law, racial preservation and expansion, and fanatical self-improvement.

Well I suppose I stand corrected. Do you have any sources other than wikipedia to corroborate that?

The article is based on a book.

kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/candida-moss/the-myth-of-martyrdom/

This article is fascinating:

religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/03/30/christ-was-persecuted-but-what-about-christians/

Funny how much this reminds me of another group whose religion came from the Levant and the awful things that they went through, and how much they profited from it.

Why would they lie?

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Well that's pretty damn jewy if it's all true.

THE POPE IS A MARRANO JEW

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CATHOLICS ARE NOT CHRISTIAN

Fortunately they have their own name to delineate them, but what about “Christian Zionists”? I propose a term for them to distinguish them from actual Christians.

Chrizi

Sounds vaguely Jewish in the first place. Plural with an s. Chrizis.

Chrizis are not Christian, either.

The only acceptable Christians are gnostics or ones that carry on the spirit of the Cathars. All others buy into the Jewish creation of the Bible. Even the Russian orthodox church leadership is degenerate and kosher.

If you're a Christian, then you might be the first objective one in the history of Holla Forums

I wonder what time period he is referring to exactly?The same Europe that was at war all the fucking time and conquered the world?Or just some post ww2 Europe with half of it behind the iron curtain.

The book’s premise sounds awfully jewy, since jews were persecuted since their creation and have been caught all through history trying to hide the persecutions of others to play up their own.

Sounds more like you’re just a fedora.

The Pope's a Communist Jew. Nobody takes him seriously.

What you need to understand is that the typical Christard on Holla Forums is like this:

This is what we're used to arguing with.

No True Scotsman.

I've already said multiple times I'm not christian

Catholic fag here…

For the Record, Vatican II forbid this kind of "changing".

This kind of pageantry is a sin on the priest.


Yes Francis is a false pope who exchanges one sin for another…

He's basically ignoring the native children
and the poor.

Lets stop D&C, Europa first,

Reported for blatant INTL spam and not having an argument.

Article proving my point;
crisismagazine.com/2013/assessing-vatican-ii-a-response-to-my-critics

Stop worshiping a Semite and a Semitic god then, Cuckstian. I'm putting Europa first, you're putting faith in a kike first.

Can't be done, it's innate. You can roll back the symptoms, but they will always be at the forefront of racial destruction relative to whatever the prevailing views are.

I helped you out with that.

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This is the antipope

not only is that edit incredibly confusing to understand, but it fails to have any meaning because I'm not even Christian. Good effort, though, I guess.

What does that say about you?


You criticize pagans for not having universal values, but holy fuck is your mental apparatus concrete bound.

Bullshit. Jews love their goyim Christcuck slaves.

Jews hate Europeans because Europeans wouldn't allow Jews to parasite off them.

Honestly, Jews are the most narcissistic people on earth. They would hate anyone they associate with, because they only see their side of any conflict.

Oy Vey, Maria.

Nothing. It says that you have shitty writing skills and can't convey a message properly

What is wrong with criticizing people for not being logically consistent?

Logical consistency has nothing to do with it.

You're pretty lost in this discussion. You understand less about this topic than the creators of South Park do.

Christian religion is part of European culture


Can you give any good reason why Christianity is only now fucking Europe over, at a time when atheism and Universalistic "even muslims can be saved by jesus if they're good people" bullshit is widespread?

Christ can be a cuck or a conqueror depending on which verses you're quoting and what your clergy teach. Large parts of Christianity has been subverted by marxist theories of equality. You, with your "give up on Christianity" bullshit are are cancer to any nationalist movement because ultimately rallying Christians against Muslims is an essential part of reducing immigration and expelling foreigners across the West. "b-but you're a cuck! that means you'll take christian niggers instead of muslim niggers!" Lebanon exists specifically because the European powers wanted to safeguard Arab Christians without letting them into the West.

You're a retard if you believe the problems facing the West are anything but Marxism and decline in traditional spirituality wherein the Man is dominant over the Woman. And by the fucking way Norse society was a feminized society in which women could push for a divorce and own property equal to a man.

Neopaganism is dead in the water because Norse religion has been dead. You think you're getting your roots but you're just adopting Jewish faggotry. Next you'll argue we should abandon Latin letters for Futhorc runes or perhaps even that we should adopt the Mycenean Linear B script as the "true European script" because after all Latin, Greek, Cyrillic and Runic scripts are all derived originally from the Phoenician alphabet and therefore also semitic in origin. But you see why that would be fucking retarded, don't you?

So you're just spouting bullshit now. Got it.

No, you are the one who has been spouting bullshit in stating that Christianity is


*as you write here >>5926526

when billions of people throughout history have never even heard of Christianity or Jesus Christ.

We're being colonized by the 3rd world, you fucking puppet.


LOL, he doesn't even know what half the things he's saying mean…

You seem to be incredibly confused about what I was trying to convey. I said that pagans who try to promote racially-specific gods are idiots, because to have a god and believe that they really exist, they have cannot be subjective. religions inherently need to be absolute truths or else they're worthless. Subjective truth is an oxymoron, because the truth cannot be different depending on who you ask.

Post of truth.

Have some pics relating to Our Lord and Savoir.

Look at the majority of the faggots going to college, preaching promiscuity, transgender rights and all sorts of assorted sexual deviancy.

They're all fucking atheists, why should I listen to a fucking fedora when the most disgusting human beings I run into make the same "Le dead christzombie" "le sky daddy" comparisons?

Look at the majority of Christcucks; they advocate for white genocide through immigration, desegregation, and reconciliation with Semites. That's what happens when you listen to Semites, whether through their atheistic ideology or their theistic ideology.

2/10 Pontiff tbh

Posting superior Pontiff

A religion is not an "absolute truth," it is a system of belief. Whether it's teachings apply to everyone or only a few people is beside the point.

No religion in history has been universal and applicable to all people. Most religions have been limited to particular tribes or groups, and been lost to the sands of time, without even a footnote in academic work somewhere. Even larger religions have had regional patron deities, like Athena was for Athens. You sound like you are attempting to describe some type of universal ethical code, and not a religion.

I see the point you are attempting to make, but you don't really grasp the subject matter of what a religion actually is, and at the very least you should not be calling people idiots.

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Nobody cares who you listen to. Enjoy getting BTFO arguing for Christianity on Holla Forums.

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Why would I deny something that isn't true when I can state the facts instead?

Every Zionist I've ever heard of that wasn't a kike was a Cuckstian. Every major Cuckstian cult is working against the interests of Europe. The teachings attributed to Jesus are proto-Marxist trash that destabilize societies into which they are able to infiltrate.

Jesus was nothing more than a mortal Semite and the god of Abraham is nothing more than the national deity of a group of Semites. If you're a Cuckstian (and not a Semite), you're a race traitor. It's as simple as that.

i think it's the church that's a problem, not christianity in itself, the church is a business, they want more poor starving non-whites so they will go to church and tip the pastor more money. i consider myself christian but i don't go to church or pray. i just believe in god and jesus.

Satanism is more redpilled then your kike religion, that's a pathetic fact. Why are you even on Holla Forums?

I guess I wasn't clear enough then.

A religion that has gods, a creation myth, and a specific moral/ethical system that are inherent to it needs to be an absolute truth or else it's worthless. You cannot have multiple, equally true creation stories spanning multiple cultures. You can't have multiple, equally true gods depending on which culture you view. Like I said, there is no such thing as subjective truth. Truth is by definition objective, so if a religion claims to know the objective truth about god, creation, ethics, or whatnot then it NEEDS to be universal.


This doesn't mean each any every one of those groups believed THEY knew the absolute truth. The difference between semetic religions and those other ones, was that semetic religions more easily spread. I'm sure pagans never viewed their religion, with all their gods and customs, as subjective and only applicable to them. They would've viewed everyone else as blasphemers.


No. I'm trying to assert that for a religion to have gods and to actually claim those gods exist and created the Earth and interact with people (through prayer or whatnot), it needs to be absolute. If it's not absolute, then it suggests that other groups can have their own equally valid religious beliefs with their own equally valid and equally true gods, and then your own gods are basically rendered null and void. Truth cannot be subjective, as I've already said.

This doesn't mean each any every one of those groups DIDN'T believed THEY knew the absolute truth*

When the fuck is Pope Francis going to call out Israel with their enormous, double-enforced border walls and strict anti-muslim immigration policies?

If he wants to be an open borders cuck then good on him, but the fact that he reserves his criticism solely for white countries makes him out to be a giant hypocrite. Or a jewish puppet.

This motherfucker started out promising and turned out retarded.

I ask this in most christcuck threads, but I've never gotten any good answer, so I guess I'll keep asking.

How can christcuckery be any sort of solution to our problems when 99.9% of christians act like complete marxist SJW buffoons?

If your Jew god exists, and your 0.01% racially positive interpretation is correct, this must mean that Jewhova is having a big troll session going on. Basically he's letting all his followers act like jew loving SJWs. Why? To test them?

Ok, ok, so lets say it's all a test. But for us who come to this without any christcuck indoctrination to lean back on, we have to take all this on faith. It's basically a huge gamble for us; align our cause with the biggest marxist institution on the planet during our most critical moment…….. based on… what?

Your vague promises and quotes from some book written by jews?

Why?

Pope Francis, tear down your (own) walls!

Because 1, you’re lying and 2, Chrizis are not Christians.

In the same way that Keynesianism isn’t capitalism and marxism isn’t Holla Forums, HERETICAL SECTS that call themselves Christianity are not Christianity.

It’s that fucking simple.

Capitalism is defined by a set of situations and behaviors.
Holla Forums is defined by a set of situations and behaviors.
Christianity is defined by a set of situations and behaviors.

Is communism capitalism? Of fucking course not. Why? Because in communism, the market doesn’t dictate such and such, you know?
Is marxism, direct democracy, supporting the ‘personhood’ of corporations, supporting feminism, and supporting faggotry Holla Forums? Of fucking course not. Why? Because we were created to get away from that bullshit and restore our culture to its traditional values.
Is zionism Christianity? Of fucking course not. Why? Because Christian doctrine explicitly says that kikes are demons, have no right to the Holy Land, and that supporting them does not support God.

It’s literally that fucking simple, and any anti-Christian D&C sack of shit can be disproven this easily.

Just copy and paste.

Chrizis are not Christians.

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I'm here to Praise Kek and mock Argentinian "white" popes.

Unfortunately, those are still around. Why don't you all remove him and reinstate that Nazi Youth guy, Benedict XVI, or someone else?

You've not disproven shit. Look up what the word means. Just pulling assertions out of your ass is not evidence in other places than in your cult. And what is a chrizis? Some forced meme with no reach you just made up? Jewgle gives me nothing.

Your comparisons with capitalism, democracy and so on are abysmal. Most people who call themselves capitalists act like capitalists and argue for capitalism. Most people who call themselves christians argue for the opposite of what you say christianity is.

I've actually taken the time to go visit every Christian congregation in my town and talked to them. They are all completely degenerate SJWs.

Where do I go to find all these "true christians" you talk about? Where do I find a minister to baptize me in this true, ultra rare, brand of christcuckery you vaguely allude to?

Basically you prove my point. Since all the 1+ billion christians who follow these degenerate denominations are "false christians" according to you, your god is logically doing some heavy trolling.

What a bitch to do this to us at this moment, where our survival is on the line.

You are spouting a lot of Philosophy 101 stuff without knowing the first thing about religion.


It was their god, you half-educated fool. Athena was the patron deity of Athens.

You are the one who keeps talking about universal truth as if it is somehow relevant.


Nobody gives a shit. Nobody knows or cares about what the 9,999 other religions are doing. Judaism has a creation myth, and the Jews were the Chosen People of Jehovah, the god who created the world.

There. Done. Solved this big existential problem that you pulled out of your ass because you know fuckall about the subject matter while calling other people idiots.


Yes, it can, but that is above your paygrade, because you don't understand the multiple meanings of the word subjective.

The definition of being a Christian is simply worshiping Jesus as the Christ; it's in the name. What's more, the millions of Christians who support liberalism and white genocide are the ones truly following the doctrines laid out by that Semite. Cuckstian tradition is proto-Marxist trash that subverts national unity with slavery to Semites.

Catholics, Protestants, Anglicans, Orthodox; all advocate for white genocide and the destruction of Europe. So, how many "true Cuckstians" can you point out, because the vast legions of those callings themselves Christcucks would say that you are the heretic and the Semitic texts support their interpretation of the Semitic religion and its Semitic tradition.

The "good" Cuckstianity that existed in Europe had nothing to do with Cuckstian belief. It was a bunch of Europeans acting on European virtues until Cuckstian theologians told them that they had to accept foreigners into their nations because the Bible is not in fact a document justifying Euro-centrism.


Because this pope is simply being true to the teachings of the Semite they worship, and that's what the Cuckstians want. The Deus Vult LARPers hold on to an imaginary religion which never existed because Cuckstianity is a Semitic religion and all of the good things ever done in its name were done by Europeans for Europeans rather than being tied to the religion. They want all of the greatness of European civilization without being willing to adhere to the spirituality which led to that civilization in the first place.

Yes, but they still believed their god to be true and actually exist. It might have been the god that represented Athens, but that didn't mean they believed it only existed for them.


That's never what I was trying to say, you fucking mong. My original comment was going after the idiots pagans who try to attack christians for "worshiping a semitic god" as if gods themselves are subjective and only exist to the ethnic group that believe in them. They imply that "European gods" only apply to Europeans.


No, truth cannot be subjective. Truth, by definition, must be objective. There cannot be more than one truth, or else it's not the truth anymore. If gods only exist for one group of people, and they openly recognise that their gods are only for them, then they're basically submitting to the idea that their gods were never really real to begin with, because they acknowledge that the gods of others are equally valid and true.

He went from worshipping Jesus to worshipping Marx in these last few years. Someone should tell this guy he's worshipping the wrong Jew.

The funniest thing about a lot of the walls around the Vatican is that they were built to keep Arabs who arrived in Italy by boat out.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_raid_against_Rome

Who the fuck does he think he's kidding? He dreams of little boys.

I'm glad this idiot commie pope is committed to taking the wrong stance on this issue and proving to everyone how irrelevant his rotted, corrupt pedophilia supporting abrahamic institution really is.

THERE IS LITERALLY NOTHING WRONG WITH IMMIGRATION

Trump's Illegal Immigration Plan: Give them Legal Status
edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1507/29/cg.01.html
edition.cnn.com/2015/07/29/politics/donald-trump-immigration-plan-healthcare-flip-flop/index.html

"One, we have a law, right? You're supposed to come in legally. I would get people out and I would have an expedited way of getting them back into the country, so they can be legal. Let them be legal."

"We have to bring great people into this country. OK? And I want to bring – I love the idea of immigration, but it's got to be legal immigration. Now, a lot of these people are helping us, whether it's the grapes or whether it's jobs. And sometimes it's jobs. In all fairness, I love our country, but sometimes it's jobs that a citizen of the United States doesn't even want to do. There are jobs that a lot of people don't want to do. I want to move them out. I want to move them back in and let them be legal. But they have to be in here legally."

inb4 pope bans same-race marriages.

This. Immigration is our greatest strength. G-d Emperor Trump said so.

Catholics, please get rid of this shit-tier Pope of yours. I understand that many of you do not follow his teachings or think of him as your Pope, but this is casting a terrible light on Catholicism(and on Christianity as a whole to the atheistic masses who make no distinction between Catholicism and Protestantism - yes I know Protestants have our own problems at the moment). I urge you to do everything you can to "Make Catholicism Great Again" and return your faith to the faith of Hitler and Father Coughlin. God bless.

This is EXACTLY what Christiandom teaches. Soon, he's going to be saying that race mixing is demanded by god and to be "of pure blood" is a sin.
Congrats, Christcucks, you brought this on the rest of us. Now, everyone in the developed world is fucked because you couldn't just give up your stupid fucking fairy tales.

I'm starting to wonder how many spies rather than priests existed in Vatican in the 60s.

at least whores get paid

You're going to have to do it yourself, Italian cop.

Fuck this antichrist.

He predicted that his papacy will be short, only 2-6 years. It's been 3 so far. I sure hope it ends soon… and that the guy he chose to replace him isn't even worse.

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Strawman harder. That is not what anybody was saying, that is your projection.


Yes, a god who has a Chosen People who is not them.


Here is a subjective truth. You ready? "I like vanilla."

It's that fucking simple. You never even looked up the definition of subjective to know its range of meanings.

Hell is forever!

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Papists smh tbh tbf

And Christians will certainly be going to hell, since they are horrible traitorous people.

So does that mean you are pro Bosnian and pro other white muslims? So long as it's a white Briton putting up those sharia law signs it's OK, right?

Yeah and I tell pope that he should commit a sudoku.

Look in the Bible what John the Baptist and Jesus say whenever Jews say they're holy because "we have Abraham for our father".

What a miserable life to get paid to shill. Well at least you have that going on for you parasite.

Maybe so, but they sure as hell didn't do it for Wotan or Thunor.
I don't see no Thor's hammer on that ship.


Indeed - and many of them acknowledge the Jewish G-d as valid and true. After all, it is a fellow non-universalist ethno-religion. Julian the Apostate, darling of the modern neopagans, thought this way, and even tried to rebuild the Jewish Temple.

What would your Christian grandparents say if they were to see the way that you denigrate the religion that they care about and spent so much time with?

Not bumping because off-topic

My grandparents stopped being Catholic sometime in the 80s. I assume when it became apparent that the church was a blight on the earth. They had better sense than fags like you.

Filtered, because prioritising my time

Islam is definitively better than Christianity at this point. At least Muslims believe in their religion, unlike most Christcucks who only believe in liberalism and take their religion seriously only as far as it fits with liberalism.

Can't wait for a new thread tbqh

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Maybe so, but they sure as hell didn't do it for Wotan or Thunor.
they sailed to the Americas under Thor, Europeans only began advancing after the power of the Church began to wane
all Europeans did under Christ for over a thousand years was kill each other over land, farm and slowly get raped and conquered by enroaching mudshits for 600 years

In truth, Christianity came good when it synthesised classical thought, I.e. the Greeks

I can't help but laugh at the ploy at play where the kikes had thought for certain that finally having a pope as blatantly in servitude to the synagogue of satan such as Francis was going to make a huge impact on influencing the goyim. They really thought that this pathetic cuck was going to sway the people because he was the pope and it's CURRENT YEAR. But instead because it's CURRENT YEAR and so this is why nobody is listening to him. What he's advocating is so wrong and so stupid and how he's so adamant for it is why no one will follow what he's saying.

The kikes got their CURRENT YEAR po-ppet and he's fucking useless. He's a goddamn joke. All the while they wanted catholicism to be weak and because of their weakening no one took the church seriously but they especially do not take his cucktholic faggot seriously. Seriously kikes did you think this would fucking work? What a joke. Bravo. Thanks for the laugh.

Why limit it to popes.

Practically everyone with a brain when it comes to politics in the history of mankind is rolling in their graves right now.

They're in high gear to bankrupt Europe. I hope you cucks didn't invest in the european stockmarket outside of Switzerland. Why, though? Why?

It's actually ironic that Poland, the most Catholic nation in Europe, is the one most resistant to invasion. The only people Catholic enough to take Francis seriously don't. That's how much of a joke he is.

That's faith

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Once you admit that, you realize that the Bible isn't necessary and all the good stuff is in classical philosophy anyway. The Bible is shallow garbage by comparison.

If by people you mean spics then yes he did, and seeing as most Christians are spics I'd say he did his job pretty well.

Christians need to be purged.

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*tips nose*

Give one example of something better about Christianity than Islam today. You can't.

It's losing relevance in the developed world

Easy there Achmed, last time non christians attempted that, result was 4 centuries of holy war plus 3 centuries of inquisition.

I urge the pope to commit suicide, but I doubt he'll listen either.

Everything about Christianity is better than Islam… Christianity is the moral religion of God, Islam is the slave religion of Lucifer. It's like night and day.

Yes I am sure the nu-male feminist Christian will all go deus vult any day now. Right after he drops off his wife's kids at their dad's house.

So you couldn't think of anything? Very telling. You would think god's true religion would have at least one concrete benefit over the "slave religion of lucifer."

What sort of lunatic advocates, without any qualification, for the same people who deny everything he believes. He looks at this from a purely "humanitarian" perspective, that this is not required of Christians because of some command from Christ but because these people are humans like you and me. Nevermind, many of these people deny Christ, are fleeing justice for war crimes, or refusing to follow the commands of their lawfully appointed state and even unlawfully resisting the state. There is no reason for a Christian to not remind the "refugee" he is in rebellion against Christ and the sufferings he has experienced are the fruit of that rebellion. There is no reason to shill so hard for Christ denying refugees when actual Christians are being persecuted, sometimes by the very refugees you welcome. When the very people charged with preserving the faith are the ones giving aid and comfort to its enemies, I am sure the end of this age draws near.

I don't really believe it's such a coincidence that both Mr Trump and P.M. Victor Orban (of Hungary) are Calvinists…

What's not concrete about morality? Do I have to spell out what morality is? I suppose an athiest would require that, wouldn't you? But regardless, if all you care about is the end result, take a look at how Christianity helps cultures improve over time, while Islam destroys them over time. Even when you correct for the effect of demographic/racial changes, the religion has a signficant effect. Now that atheism is increasing in the west, it's being replaced by Cultural Marxism, as we can see the result clearly. Many "Christians" in the west are Christian in name only today, and believe in a sort of abomination that combines Cultural Marxism with a thin vineer of a Biblical paint job on top. These are the "christcucks", and they are cancer. But it's obviously not the fault of Christianity itself, because if it had been then this would have happened 2016 years ago instead of now.

And just like that you lost all credibility

The destruction of the 3 Abrahamic religions and all of their sects and cults will bring me great joy.

oy vey

That's heresy.

Christianity is a mystery religion tbh fam

It spawned from judaism.

*Hellenized Judaism with Zoroastrian and Egyptian influence

How can christcucks defend this shit?

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Try it again, user.

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word filters on Holla Forums? Are you using some java script?

incarnate deity is anathema to the jew and the muslim, of the so called 'abrahamics' its the odd one out in a lot of cases

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No, no. Don't get side tracked. You were trying to communicate. Go at it again.

Very well. What I was trying to convey, in abridged form, was my perplexity in understanding the reason why many white men and women of pure european descend, would adopt and defend what is escentially a hebrew sect/cult that grew out of control. These very same people will both state that christianity has it's roots in Judaism while at the same time the worship a jew who got jewed on a stick by another jew for a 3rd of a golden shekel. Boggles the mind it does.

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Christianity is the biggest bane of the right, it drives off the middle class and into the arms of "scientific socialism" by making us all look like complete fucking retards by comparison.

It's true for the old right, but not the new one we see growing in places like Holla Forums. They try to infiltrate, but that's just what semite cults do. It's not like they have any significant part of the of this growing cultural revolution.

One day then will wake up and realize how identical to the other Jew cults they are, or they will take their stand on the other side of the battlefield.

The only thing that would see a resurrection of christcuck faith in the west would be if the Jews win. Then we probably would be back to the dark ages again, with a blend of islam/christcuckery.

dank meme

You "christcuck" shills are really itching for another Urban II aren't you? I can tell

Unfortunately there's a lot of D&C shills around this topic, who try to play both sides in order to create pointless conflict. Perhaps you're one too, but nonetheless I'll try to answer your question honestly.

The main problem stems from the fact that the word Jew / Judaism has multiple meanings, but most people don't realize this. This confusion was brought about intentionally. The word Jew was first invented a couple centuries ago in English translations of the Bible as a shortened form of the word Judean. This refers to the province of Judea, which at the time of the New Testament was a multi-racial, mulit-cultural area, whose capital city was Jerusalem, which was controlled by the Pharisees. Jesus and most of his disciples did not come from Judea, and therefore were not Jews by the Biblical definition, they came from Galilee. Judea was originally inhabited by the Israeli tribe of Judah, but by this point was quite mixed. Wheras Galilee was inhabited only by the Israeli tribe of Benjamin. The only disciple that was a Jew was Judas, who betrayed Jesus.

The Pharisees were the evil Talmudists who Jesus opposed, and who ultimately got Jesus killed for daring to disagree with them. Later, Jerusalem was destroyed, and some Pharisees survived and became rootless nomads. Along the way they mixed with more people who converted to Talmudism. Then, after the invention of the English word Jew, the Talmudists started calling themselves Jews, and renamed their religion to Judaism. They started claiming that they're the people who lived in ancient Israel, and that they're the "chosen people". In reality though, their religion completely contradicts the Old Testament and they know it, but they'll never admit it. They brought about the deliberate conflation and confusion of the word Jew such that today, people now use a different definition of Jew that is expanded to include everyone in ancient Israel, but in fact that's not at all what Jew meant originally. They also like to conflate Judaism with Hebrewism, but in fact the religion of the Pharisees (Talmudism) only began after they returned from captivity in Babylon, and the Old Testament religion of the Hebrew people before that was quite different. Today, only a tiny minority of people who call themselves "Jews" don't worship the Talmud.

So, the reason you have all this confusion is because most people, even most Christians, don't realize this linguistic & historical deception. This is especially true of the English-speaking world (especially Protestants), due to the cucked translations of the Bible they use, plus lacking any connection to the true traditions of the original Christian church. They've totally forgotten how the Jews persecuted Christians endlessly before Christians eventually gained power through the Roman Empire and started dishing it right back to them. Just like a nation becomes cucked when it forgets its own history, the same is true of any religion. In fact, the same arguments used to claim that Christianity is inherently weak because it's now cucked can be used to say that western nations are inherently weak because they're now cucked, or that white people are inherently weak because they're now cucked. It's just not a good argument at all.

Of course you do. You cultists want nothing more in your hidden heart than to kill and murder for your Jewish icons. Flowery words first, then the iron fist when you're in charge.

Fortunately for you, your mudslime brothers in faith will give you the opportunity to fight alongside other Jew cultists to kill and rape white people, like in the good old days.

Time will tell who wins. You or white people.

Not gonna happen. The church is totally modernist now, in case you haven't heard. The dogma has changed, and it says you must accept Jews and Muslims as your brothers in christ because according to the Catholic dogma you all worship the same god.

But christcuckoldry is currently less moral than Islam. Christcuckoldry says feminism is a-ok and that females have rights, which is immoral. Islam maintains the true moral position that females must be subjugated to males. Christcuckoldry agrees with liberalism and democracy, which is immoral, but Islam obviously does not. Christcuckoldry is accepting of divorce and Pope Francis even wants to make it accepting of women who have abortions.

Christianity is not moral. It's weak and pathetic.

Now that was a Christian that the Italians can be proud of.

Pope dreams of a Reconquista of the Protestant heretic lands.

wew, lad

have a chill pill lad

Well but they reject the Holy Trinity. More than enough. That said, feels retarded to crusade to "protect" a bunch of degenerates who will willingly cuck themselves to their conquerors.

So I don't think Church is the biggest problem. Whole western world lacks backbone in general, compared to its history.

But I don't like any form of Abrahamism

PS - don't think it lacks backbone? Just see the "Trump anxiety disorders" people therapists are receiving.

As for Crusades, if it ever happens, it needs a happening of a much higher scale, and won't be on our lifetimes. This is on little rage point.

That's it, right on the nose. The heretic in the Vatican pushes "multiculturalism" everywhere in order to get the bigger prize which is that of making the United States into Latin America.

Taking stuff out of context to one-up in a most dishonest way. You cucks are true Jews in spirit.

Why do lies come so easily to christcucks? I find it amusing, but very peculiar. It's like one of the most central tenets in their dogma that you should be honest, yet lying is like breathing air to them.

Is it the worship of a Jewish spiritual entity that does this to you? It would be interesting to know.

It's like you people can't see how fervently they're fighting against Traditional Christianity and, in particular, Catholicism.

When the liberals insist Christianity is "X" it's the equivalent of them claiming that your country is "Y". It's just a lie they repeat.

Hold on, user. Who are you calling a "cuck"?

Heretic, please go.

>>>/catholic/

>>>/catholic/

>>>/catholic/

Instantly disproved it. Commit suicide.

No, sorry, that’s not the sole aspect of it.

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You realize that the earliest church leaders were still pretty fucking based, right? John Chrysostom:


and even Pius XI, much later:

The heresy began after the Italian man, Mr Marco Polo, brought back mysticism from the Far East, introducing it into Christendom. Then the wickedness metastisised with the Council of Trent… Hence the term "Trentian heretics".

I'm sure the much older saints were good Christians, but we need to find the saints of today as well, user.

Show me in the new testament where the Christ commands that faith in him shall be institutionalized and where those who control that institution shall choose one among themselves to act and speak in Christs stead on earth.

I will be here, waiting, until the end of days.

I am apparently woefully uninformed about this era of history. Do you have a primer on hand?

I doubt there is such a decree, which is why Catholicism is heresy. I never said that papists weren’t heretics.

This is shaping up to be a fun thread

So let’s get this straight.
1. You have no comprehension of the English language
2. You decide that outing yourself as a paid shill was a good idea.
3. You’re a horsefucker.

And you though this was a good thing to do?

Protestants:

Blows my mind. Every. Single. Time.

As for any critiques of the Church in light of the Holy Father's looseness with words and ambiguity in speech, see pic related.

DIRTY PAGAN SCUM

Papists:
Repent, heretic.
faithdefenders.com/articles/worldreligions/Ten_reasons_why_Christ_Catho.html
carm.org/is-catholicism-christian
jesus-is-lord.com/cath.htm
jesus-is-savior.com/False Religions/Roman Catholicism/catholic_church_is_not_christian.htm

YOUR DIRTY GRANDPARENTS ARE NOW IN HELL

It is time to stop.

Lies Protestants tell (Just in that last post!):

As for the rest, laugh at reality all you want.

Oh and as for "Priesthood of Believers!"

Roman Catholics turn everything they touch in the New World brown. It's White Genocide and you, user. are anti-white.

Not that I agree with that, but what does that have to do with Protestants lying about the doctrine's and beliefs of the Church?

en.unesco.org/silkroad/sites/silkroad/files/knowledge-bank-article/the travels of marco polo in the land of buddhism.pdf

The bottom of page 9, labeled 77, shows how certain editions of Mr Polo's travels were edited because they were corrupting the Italian Christians who read the glowing words that Polo wrote about the Oriental religions he saw there.

en.unesco.org/silkroad/sites/silkroad/files/knowledge-bank-article/the travels of marco polo in the land of buddhism.pdf

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This is why it's so good your Jew ideology is no longer in charge. You can't force people to believe lies are truth when you can't back it up with violence.

Too bad your spiritual successor marxism is just as bad. But I'm a man of faith… we'll prevail against them and your islam brothers too.

niceme.me

Repent, papist.

Reported. You were proven wrong.

I will hunt tgis piece of shit and burn his institution of European and other subjugation, treason to the ground. Ban Abrahamic religions. -A White European. Sterf jij walgelijk stuk vreten. European homelands WILL BE RESTORED AND YOU AS WITH EVERYONE LIKE YOU WILL HANG.

Reported.

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Anyone can see our exchange.

You guys are truly your own worst enemy. With every feebleminded circle-argument you present, you drive more people away from your Jewcult. I'm just glad to be here as a catalyst for your demise.

You aren't the first to say this, or the last.

Did no such thing.
Links are right there.
Using copied and pasted shill content.
And you prove that you don’t know what greentext is.

Yeah, but what you don't realize is that the Jews have designated their christcuckery as a failed system for controlling the goyim. It only works somewhat when you murder people who won't pretend to believe it. A very unstable system.

That's why they updated it to marxism, or christcuckery 2.0. All the same (although updated with new content) inherent sin, irrational dogma and deviant sexual obsessions in a package that appeals more to the general goy.

Your fatherland Israel has left you in the lurch. No soldiers bought with roman gold to come up here and murder and rape whites into submission to your Jew messiah.

How will you ever regain your greatness without it? Truth is, you wont.

Jews are liars, and Jew worshipers emulate their idols. You should go do some self rumination about your dishonesty. In the real world where you're not forgiven by your Jewlord for all your bad behavior, it's a shameful thing.

Reminder that anybody trying to sow discord between whites over religion is a D&C shill. Kikes are desperate for a way to make whites keep fighting each other rather than uniting against them.

user., do you have something against the Jews of 2,000 years ago?

That's nice, but what do you think of the Trentian heretic who is highlighted in O.P.?

Are you saying… we wuz rabbis and shit?

If you can't answer my question, user. I'll happily block you.

Look at this picture you posted … → You are an anarchist, ie. completely worthless.

Christcucks will never unite with nationalists because they are slaves to Semitic influence. They worship a Semite and a god created by Semites while participating in a tradition which includes the murder of Europeans for not converting from European spirituality to the worship of Semitic constructs and the destruction of the original heritage of Europe. Cuckstians are race traitors that cannot be trusted. Every major Cuckstian cult advocates for white genocide through accepting immigration and reconciliation with Semites.

Hell is forever!

Also, filtered. If you want to go off-topic, get your own thread

Sure I'll answer your question. Yes, I have something against the Jews of 2000 years ago, just like I have something against their descendants today.

I also have something against moslems, christcucks, marxists, atheists … pretty much all forms of Jews, both genetic and spiritual.

Does that answer your question?

I have no idea what you mean by anarchist. When christcucks burned paganlarpers temples, were they anarchists?

Yep, which is why all kikes should be killed.
Yep, which is why all kikes should be killed.
lol I don’t worship a kike

There we go. user., you are aggrieved for events that happened 2,000 years ago. You need to get over that imagined grievance. How would you be expected to be of any use to anyone, if you are still upset for things that happened then?

Yes, an anarchist. Might as well have no ideology at all and go with the flow, since anarchy is headed toward that sort of chaos and all you seem to want to do is speed it up. It might have something to do with the first item I brought up with you.

This thread is about the leader of a specific religion, and not a referendum on Christian philosophy… But you see, this is well wasted reason on a mere anarchist.

He's not a real pope. He knowingly works towards the destruction of the Church and Europe. His heresy will be remembered.

My family has been Catholic for centuries. But I will stand shoulder to shoulder with pagans and atheists (and so on) in the defence of Europe and our people. We simply can't afford to fight each other any more.

This faggot deserves to get raped to death by angry muslims and thrown in a ditch.

Well, I knew that you were trying to take the heat off when you made your comment. It's the reality of it, though and it's not only the papa, as you call him. From the United States' perspective, the Roman Catholic Church is a hostile force, much like Talmudic Judaism.

Just know that the way things are going, there is a chance that pro-whites will be able to overthrow that Vatican jurisdiction that is control right now over large populations of whites, ie. France, Belgium, Poland. It might be replaced with something better, and hopefully that replacement would be a return to the Christian faith.

Post fedoras

Deny what?

Yes, I am aggrieved. It's a good word. My family have suffered at the hands of christcucks for a thousand years, why shouldn't I be? When a thing is repulsive and injust, I don't turn the other cheek. Why should I? What's in it for me to bend over to oppressors of the past to gain their alliance towards oppressors of the present?

Why not use your argument on anything? Why be aggrieved at marxists for what they do? Why be aggrieved at Jews? The past is the past after all, let bygones be bygones? Why do anything?

But it goes beyond that. I watch from the outside and see what Jewish dogma does to the mind. It loops in on itself and becomes incapable of functioning. If you think inherent sin is because of demons or greenhouse gases, thats your theological dispute between cults. It doesn't apply to me. If you think dietary rules are because sky spirits or vegan animal empathy, that's a dispute between your cults. I don't care. If you think you have to talk about peoples sexuality all day because of Jesus or because of equality … that's between your cults… I don't fucking care.

You see… In the cult, you don't see the cult. You see only the differences between your dogma, and not that you act in the exact same fucking way 99% of the time. It's a reason almost everyone of the billion or so christcucks have adopted marxist SJWism like it was toast. They're so incredibly compatible.

Also notice, I answered your question but you didn't answer any of mine. That's a theme with you christcucks.

Fucking this. I don't know how anyone can consider ~1500 years of exploitation a tradition, let alone a proud one.

The only thing that early Christianity did wrong to your family is let any of them live.

I hope you're right.

A couple of points though: The only words I use to describe the current "pope" are heretic and traitor. And I don't want to take the heat off the heretical Church, I want to raise it.

I just don't want to see tens or hundreds of millions of whites die fighting each other again because we can't prevent kikes using the differences between us to turn us against each other.

was meant for

yfw this was largely predicted in 1973 by Jean Raspail in 'Camp of the Saints'

He even has a Brazilian pope in the story (not far from an Argentinian)

Christcucks showing their true colors: worship a Semite and a Semitic god OR ELSE!

You cannot trust a group whose tradition, savior, and deity all start with a foreign race. Jesus was a Semite and the god of Abraham was invented by Semites. Cuckstianity is nothing more than "listen to rabbis and believe that there is a god greater than the god of your ancestors which justifies abandoning your traditions." There is no evidence of such a god nor that Jesus was anything more than a mortal Semite. Instead, all research has indicated that ethno-centric religions are the ones most conducive to stable civilization.

Yes, it was a serious tactical mistake. Good thing christcuck enforcers have always been the most corrupt degenerate garbage the white race have ever produced. As my great grandfather said, you can always bribe a christcuck.

That's coming back to bite your Jewish masters in the ass now.

Ayo hol up, so you sayin the Jews created a religion to control the goyim, then killed its leader, then violently suppressed it, then had the Romans violently suppress it for centuries, until an emperor claimant in a civil war converted to it after seeing a random meteor. This would allow Jews to control the goyim by being locked in ghettoes for centuries, while constantly being at odds with this false "control religion".


Which is why just about every nationalist in European history has been Christian. Can you name even one fascist leader who was non Christian?

Pretty much, but I put it in other words.

The Jews created a bunch of lies where they overlaid a veneer of pagan beliefs over their cultism. Then they bribed and lied their way into Roman aristocracy in the period after the conquest of Judea, when you started seeing race stranger aristocrats and caesars coming into power backed by foreign gold.

These families then used the wealth of the remnants of degenerate Rome to wage a huge genocidal war against Europe to get whites to accept their Jew dogma under the skin deep pagan veneer.

Before this Jews wouldn't even be allowed to LIVE in Europe. Why would any tribe accept some ugly, conniving semite to live with them? This was only possible through christcuck multiculturalism. It took a thousand years, but as soon as they were strong enough, and had blended and subverted enough of the aristocracy, they updated their christcuckery to marxism.

tldr. here is a picture of a quality specimen of these (((Roman))) families that christened Europe. This was the King of Norway during it's most christian time. Just look at those Aryan features.

pic related?

This.

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What pagan veneer? The pagan elements (superficial remnants of old traditions) came later during the early middle ages (which is how pagans claim Christianity weakened Rome, but everything good about Christianity in the Middle Ages is because of pagan syncretism).
As opposed to the genocidal war against Europe they were waging for hundreds of years before Christianity.
Which is why Jews had special status in the Roman Empire up until the revolt in the 2nd century AD. And of course why (as I said before) the last pagan emperor Julian tried to restore this status and rebuild the Second Temple.

Yes, to us not in your multicultural cults, be it marxism or christcuckery, blood ties are often important. Thicker than your baptismal water, you might say. Some of us have family histories too.

I understand this is a foreign concept to many of you christcucks. After all, didn't your own Jewsus tell you to reject your families for the glory of the cult?

No, it doesn't. The Left did that by lying about Christianity, and then the "conservative" parties betrayed us by deliberately failing to defend it since they hated Christianity too. The fact is people have a need to believe in something, so if you remove Christianity, they'll just replace it with something else, like new age mysticism, or Islam, or Progressivism. And they'll never pick something that's actually good for them, because the correct path is the more difficult path, and when given the choice people will prefer to take easier paths as the Left lies to them that all paths are equal.


Pic related.

He's probably not lying - his family, and thousands of families like his, HAVE suffered at the hands of Christians for a thousand years.

Christianity has no doctrine about miscegenation. It just isn’t a part of the Christian message. It certainly isn’t pro-miscegenation. The reason for that is because Christianity is a true religion with real applications for all people of every race. But I’ll tell you what, the white race saw its most expansive and dominant period when it was faithfully Christian (think Victorian England which conquered half the world.) And the moment they dropped their faith, their empires fell away with them. And the moment they dropped their faith and started promoting sodomy, feminism, thats when the birth rate started plummeting and thats when pro-immigration became popular and thats when the white race really became in danger.
A man can be a nationalist and a Christian. A man cannot be an internationalist and a Christian. The purpose of missionary work is to spread the gospel to foreign nations, not to import foreign nations into your own and dislodge the gospel to make room. In fact, it was God who divided the races, and God wants the races to remain separate on earth. Once we get to heaven, we’ll be given new bodies and we’ll all be one race and one nation. And let me tell you what that new body will be better than any fleshly body and you will be like God because he will remake you in his image.
So no, Christianity is not a racist religion. It’s a neutral religion that acknowledges the existence of race. You can still be a racist and a Christian. But you should be willing to give the gospel to those you perceive as lesser races; if you are truly a master race then you should be a good steward and govern the world well as your fathers did. Not promote filth, sodomy, and decay in the name of fighting the “oppression” of Christianity.

I can name one, Hitler.


I mean, should we start posting pictures and quotes from Cuckstians advocating for anti-racism (white genocide)? Cause I'm pretty sure we could max the the thread out with the millions and millions of Christcucks harping on about accepting other races because it's what Jesus said to do (which is true, Cuckstian doctrine is proto-Marxist trash). Remember, every single major Cuckstian cult advocates for white genocide. Catholics, Protestants, Anglicans, Orthodox; the lot of them. I have yet to see Cuckstians post one of their organizations that opposes it actually.

checking based post

That is a quote from "Hitler Speaks" by Hermann Rauschning, a book of fake "secret conversations with Hitler" cooked up to make money.

How the fuck is there not a mainstream Antipope yet?
Surely there's at least one non-cucked Catholic priest out there that realizes Islam and Mudshits are a cancer on Europe.

It does sound suspicious, at least.
archive.is/xIwgB

I thought they were the evil ones?!

Lies as usual.

We're all one in Jesus it says. Faith precedes race. Which makes the billion 99.9% of christians that have adopted SJWism the ones in the right, and your tiny, tiny, tiny minority of bible thumper outcasts the splitter heretics.

In your Christian utopian society… when a Jew comes knocking on the door, having converted to Jesus, a poor hungry refugee needing help from his brothers in faith… what will be your reason for rejecting him? You have none, because it's the fucking un-christian thing to do.

And that's exactly what happened. No white tribe would ever have accepted a Jew to live with them before christcuckery brought people low, and instilled them with materialist multiculturalist degeneracy. They came and stayed because of Christian charity, and everything points to them setting it up that way.

And here is the crux of the matter. The same thing I asked a question about earlier in the thread. And we get no answers to this most timely question, because the christcucks have none.

Just their presumption that they are right because their Jewbook says so if you interpret it "right." They have no works to show to, they are not out there setting their religion straight. All we see are billions of christcucks doing the Jews work, and these few ridiculous remnants here on Holla Forums saying we should support a Jewish religion because… ???

Why do antichrist shills always seem to have exactly the same talking points and make exactly the same lies and distortions about Christianity? Are you all getting these memes installed in your brain from the same source? Is it a book or a podcast or a youtube channel or something? Or how about a shill manual? It's strange how you like to throw random words together in ways that remind me of postmodernist Jewish academics; things like "materialist multiculturalist degeneracy", which has no relation to Christianity whatsoever, and yet just like with postmodernist writings, it makes you sound "intellectual" to someone who doesn't know anything about the subject. And yet, like all antichrist shills, you can't demonstrate any logical connection between Christianity and degeneracy. The only "argument" you ever use is the fallacious argument of pointing out that many people who call themselves Christians today are cucked, and then leaping to the illogical conclusion that therefore Christianity leads to cucking, apparently being too retarded to understand that correlation doesn't imply causation. Yet you've never demonstrated causation, and you never will, because to do that you would have to rewrite history, since Cultural Marxism is appearing right now, not 2016 years ago.

So what's your solution to this dillema? Ah yes, of course, just keep repeating the same claim and fallacious argument over and over in different ways, and surely eventually people will forget what a fallacy is and give in! Yes, the standard Leftist propaganda strategy… no surprise seeing it come from antichrist shills, since the Left invented the hatred of Christianity. The sad thing is that you honestly think people here are dumb enough to fall for this.

Well, so does the Catholic Church, since they claim that Muslims and Jews have the same god.

The low IQ of Christfags on display yet again.

They literally are. Read the second Vatican council documents. They are quite plainly heretical. This is dogma.

That image is retarded because the church is explicitly liberal, modernist, and egalitarian. This is pronounced clearly in second Vatican council statements

Why do you Jew worshipers never answer questions, only resorting to namecalling, circular arguments and victim role whining? It's like you have some sort of manual instilling you with the words of Jew prophets making your brains incapable of applying basic rationality to the world around you.

Still, as always I'll answer your implied questions, even though as we all know, we will never get an answer out of you. Only whining martyr behavior, like we see from other Jew cults like SJWs.

To someone not indoctrinated in your cult, with no stake in having your Jewgod be the ultimate truth of the universe it boils down to this:

Jews came here and set up shop because of the charity and "we're all one in Jesus" of your religion… that was forced on whites with murder and rape. Jews came here DURING christianity. This is indisputable. They rose to power DURING christianity. Look at the picture of that christian King of my native Norway during it's most christian. He's a fucking semite. Jews also WROTE your fucking religion. For a untainted mind this is very suspicious.

You can't get your head around this, because you presume your Jewbook is right first, and then tries to make everything fit around that.

And yes of course I point out what those billions of "false" christians are doing. The word christian is a designation we as a society have on them. If you take a random person and ask him, what is a christian, that's what he thinks of. They have a complete memespace dominance of your religion. "Christian" to everyone but you means a person who worships a Jew and promotes multiculturalism.

I'm not a Jew worshipper, and I wasn't the one you asked the question to. But the answer is simple: I'll reject him to protect my family. Family takes precedence above neighbors, neighbors take precedence above strangers, and your own nation/race takes precedence above other nations/races. Bibilical justification: If anyone does not provide for his own, and especially his own household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever. - 1 Timothy 5:8. The word "especially" here clearly distinguishes a dichotomy indicating that those who are more closely related to you must take higher priority. And obviously people of the same race are more closely related than those of other races.

Further, the Tower of Babel story clearly indicates God's desire for nationalism. Short version: After the flood, God commanded the children of Noah to spread out and populate separate nations, but they refused and instead build a mono-racial, mono-cultural, mono-religious society; i.e. globalism. So God punished them by spreading them all over the world and giving them separate languages, in order to make it harder for them to intermix again.

Except Christians hated Jews and often persecuted them and kicked them out. Ever notice how almost all white athiests support refugees, immigration, and anti-racism? All the white countries are doing this to themselves, but none of the shitskin Christian countries are, and they're more devoutly Christian than modern white Christian countries. The most blatant example being South America. Mexico for example is strongly Catholic, their people are much more devout and traditionally Christian than even the American deep south, and yet they have a wall on their southern border, and they torture illegal immigrants to keep them out.

You see, the problem is not Christianity, as I established by answering your question above. The problem unfortunately is white altruism. Evolving in the cold climates certainly helped our IQ, but it also made us more altruistic and trusting of strangers, because those traits were vital to ensure that whites would work together, even with those of other tribes who looked and spoke differently, because if they didn't work together and share their resources they would die in the brutal winters. This is a great thing and it's the reason why our societies are so safe and friendly when they're all-white. But the downside is when it becomes pathological altruism when not kept in check.

It is a Semitic religion, so they learn well to mimic the Jews.

If you read the old testament, it is simply a collection of embellished stories of dishonorable lying criminal Jews fucking over every society they infested. It reads exactly like an article fron the ADL.

So when christcucks spend so much tine reading these Jewish fairy tales about how some old kike pimped out his daughter to a king and then used her connections to have the king slaughter his enemies (book of esther), Christians read this and want to mimic the behavior of these dishonorable semitic bandits.

Another example is the famous King David, hero of all Judeo-Christcucks. His claim to fame was cheating to win an honor duel. Does this sound like the behavior of an Aryan? Of course not.

This is a lie. Jews maintained a privileged position in Europe throughout the middle ages and all the way up to the modern period. The only "persecution" they evee suffered was in the form of peasant revolts againt them because jews treated europeans like shit. But the Christcucked church always protected them

Hell, even the famous "expulsions" of Jews were usually issued by the king at behest if the church, and they only allowed Jews to escape justice for their crimes.

Jews murder a European child and drink his blood? The church would just allow them to escape justice at thr hands of the people, and they would call it expulsion. Once the heat died down they would be asked to return.

The histories in the OT is about how the people of Israel constantly failed to follow God's commandments. For Christians, it's a lesson in what NOT to do.

Sources? Regardless, Jews infiltrate, that's what they do. If these were pagan societies, they would still do the same thing. As proven by the fact that they DID do the same thing in the pagan Roman Empire and other places… Again, the problem is not Christianity, it's white altruism. History and the present prove this. Your shilling is in vain.

Oh what, the heretical catholic church with it's human-appointed god is up to no good? My socks have been blown off.

Seriously though, the world has been completely ruined.

This. If God wanted everyone to look the same He wouldn't have dispersed the races and languages after the Tower of Babel. It doesn't help that that was the first instance of a Satanic kingdom on earth and it goes with the whole NWO rhetoric. Clearly sovereignty and nationalism was the key factor here. If not the world would've ended there.

Look at Joshua 23:7 for example: "That ye come not among these nations, these that remain among you; neither make mention of the name of their gods, nor cause to swear by them, neither serve them, nor bow yourselves unto them…" God was talking about multiculturalism in regards to Israel and the Canaanites.

Ever notice how almost all Cuckstians support refugees, immigration, and anti-racism?

EVERY major denomination (Catholic, Orthodox, Anglican, Protestant, even Mormons have lost their white only zeal) refutes the views of Deus Vult LARPers while quoting the same Semitic religious texts.

There is nothing of Cuckstianity worth protecting. Semitic god, Semitic founder, Semitic tradition, progressive ideals.

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The only thing wrong with that prophecy is that the Church would never sell its own treasures to raise money, just like they would never tear down the wall around the Vatican.

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Man what is it with christcucks and your forced memes. I can honestly say a christcuck meme have never gotten a rise out of me. The accompanying words can sometimes be provoking in their obstinate retardation, but never the memes.

Your boogiemen 2005 type fedora atheists and larpagans have obviously made a big impression on you. Not so much on everyone else. I can't really say I've seen anyone proselytizing atheism or paganism in this thread. Not a single post. There pops up a thread about paganism like once every three months but I can't say I've ever seen a thread on Holla Forums about how people should be atheists.

The saddest thing is that almost all your memes are just anti-christcuck memes in reverse. No creativitiy, and an implicit admission of how they've hit home. It's the same style of memeing we see from Holla Forums. It's just something about having a set Jewish agenda you have to work around that makes all you different Jew cults come across as so uncreative and forced, with repressed butthurt oozing out from behind.

tl;dr

Heh. Man, that burned.

I have to go have a little lie down now. Have to nurse my shattered paganlarpatheistfedora ego back to health from the staggering blow of your devastating meme.

Sure thing, aspie.

What? I'm admitting to getting both extremely triggered and suffering from epic level butthurts.

Your rapier with "tl:dri," obviously discarding my every word like worthless pagan refuse… and your scathing 2005 fedora meme… just pierced my soul like the lance of longinus, steered gently by your knightly deus vult arm.

being this butthurt by shitty /christian/ memes

what? who else is there? Are you jewish? I don't get it.

I don't give a shit about people ripping into roman catholics over their pope being insane, but don't drag the rest of us into this.

America kills a lot of brown people who they openly fund for Israel's machinations, but we're the only glorious bastards who remove actual kebab Israel wants alive.

Christian Orthodox Death Squads when?

FRANCIS WAS NEVER A TRUE POPE

I really really really really don't like Francis.

But I'm not leaving the church. He is old and will die soon. Then we will have a better Pope.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry

I'm going to give you benefit of the doubt and assume you're Orthodox

Shall I dig up another picture of Bartholomew I posing with Rabbis because I already posted the one I have saved? Or maybe I should dig up a quote from his recent meeting with the pope in Greece where the two advocated for white genocide through accepting rapefugees? Let's go with that one.

ncronline.org/blogs/peace-pulpit/we-cant-forget-our-suffering-brothers-and-sisters

ALL Cuckstians are race traitors.

Pretty embarrassing Mr. Proxypope.


I'm partial to this one. What does it signal when you kiss men who lick nigger toes?

Semitism, buyer beware.

I bet he would bareback an 8yr old Liberian orphan for a shekel.

He is the anti-pope

Perhaps we should disband 'Europe' then if its so synonymous with the word 'crisis'
Can't wait for these people to go to hell

D&C shills once again showing how much of a scourge they would be if they had any pull in the world.
You're no better than the EU or NWO trying to impose its will on the people when you claim everyone who is not a retarded anarchist fedora tipper should be killed.

In times of hardship my country endured and the people brought together to defend our land and help each other by faith.
The moment some faggot like you from overseas starts to think he has any right to think what goes on in my country and religion you are just like the jews and YOU should be shot on sight if you ever enter our country.

Jesus confirmed first weeaboo

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Egyptians and Romans didn't not believe in one another's gods. They just took it that some gods ruled some regions, done ruled others. They had no concept of the world as a planet back then but as a multi-layered fabric of planes and dimensions so having different creation myths didn't really give them any hang-ups.

Somewhat offtopic but I really love pseudo-history like this.


Nota bene, I'm not making it up, these are all actual pseudo-historical theories

Every possible ethnicity except the most commonsensical that Jesus was your average Semite (probably a Jew even) from the Middle East.

The chair of Saint Peter remains empty.

idk, like shit?

I assume you think Patriarch Bartholomew doing weird shit makes us uncomfortable. What you don't understand is that the ecumenical patriarch has zero sway in Orthodoxy.

People make the mistake of assuming that guy is "orthodox pope," but he has exactly as much power as a bishop.

Reason being, he's not just any patriarch, but the ecumenical patriarch.

In orthodoxy, ecumenism is a dirty word; literally, he's big important job is to be an ambassador to other faiths, but his patriarchate is the city of Constantinople. No one, least of all the other patriarchs take him seriously.

So in other words, to get us you have to go after people we actually respect, like pic related.

already happened(ing) user!
pic related

Also, feels good when we win holy wars and put kebab in its place when kike NATO can't stop us:

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The Trentian heresy culminated in the 16th Century, user. and that's way before the birth of Bergoglio.

Leaving aside Phoenicians, Palestineans, arabs, Indians, Japanese, Chinese, Persians, Egyptians .etc, let's address the holy grail of Holla Forums's fixation:

white people.

The growth rate of the OCA in America is almost entirely via zealous former-WASPs who realized we were the real deal. That's not even counting "white" true aryan!!! bonafide german descendants who come screaming in from the Lutheran side of the equation.

Hell, go to your average Greek Orthodox Church in America and you'll see old Greeks and young wasp couples who fled baptist nonsense, milquetoast methodist sermons, or mormon insanity.

Based Shang Tsung.

Ivan, please.

Filtered, for off-topic discussion.

Get your own thread

How about we start with the vatican?


Poor guy must be getting senile if he can't make the connection.

…Such as importing entire alien cultures, creating parallel societies, and suppressing wages for a quick economic boost that only exists on paper for most people.

Oh boy, WASPs, the most liberal Jewish ethnic group outside of the kikes themselves.

And Orthodox in America is cancer. They are all SJWs, feminists, and so on.

Oh boy, WASPs, the most liberal Jewish ethnic group outside of the kikes themselves.

And Orthodox in America is cancer. They are all SJWs, feminists, and so on.


Funny that your images just show that the Russian church is part of the state propaganda arm. Not surprising since it was packed with KGB agents during the USSR days. None of these patriarchs even believe in christianity, they just follow the orders of their leaders in the Kremlin.

the guy who admitted he made up his entire story


Didn't they go out of their way to excommunicate Heimbach and his people?

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You mean some faggot like antipope Bergoglio, the Argentinian?

You mean some faggot like antipope Bergoglio, the Argentinian?


Lol, yes. They would excommunicate everyone in this thread just for browsing Holla Forums. Not that the Russian Orthodox are any better, mind you. See below.


How about patriarch Kirill? Is he taken seriously when he calls for the West to be flooded with shitskin Muslims just like Jewtin has down in Moscow?

pravmir.com/west-should-learn-from-russia-to-accept-muslim-refugees-patriarch-kirill/

Totally based XD deus vult

Is that the reason why there is not a single one on the U.S. Supreme Court, which is itself entirely Judeo-Catholic?

Anglo-Saxons have different and more traditional ethnic churches which are being promoted in the traditionalist circles. By the way, Protestant Christians in the Americas have been historically pro-white, which is why United States and Canada are known for being first-world, unlike the Hispanic countries further south.

This thread is exactly why christfags are hated in the far right, you have mealy-mouthed, unsatisfactory "answers" to everything.

Us: Christianity is cucked
You: No, my very specific branch of Christianity that would be considered heresy by every major denomination that me and like 12 other people adhere to is racialist so Christianity isn't cucked.

Us: Your religion originated outside of Europe so it's alien to our people
You: WE WUZ HEEBREWZ!

And then, rather than answer the charges in some concise, civilized way, you fling shit at pagans who follow the ancestral religions of Europe or attack atheists who just see no evidence for a religion. Both these groups put race above religion, you do not which is why we don't like you.

Any time some topic of mysticism comes up, even just one of casual curiousity, you nigger up the thread by posting irrelevant bible verses in all caps and red text.

Most of you glorify the murder of Aryans at the hands of the Christian church and openly admit you'd like to kill more Aryans for not following a Semetic religion like you do.

Your arguments too are all based on sophistry and you constantly whinge and whine about persecution until you're in charge and then you do the persecuting. Your kike religion makes you act like fucking kikes.

Holla Forums is not and will never be a Christian board. You need to get over it. Paganism and atheism were in Europe long before Christianity and will be in Europe long after your Semitic fairy tales fade.

The true root cause of the problem with modern Church rests with its obsession with man and seconding the worship of God - how can you seek eternity and salvation through elevation of your fellow man to the utter detriment of your spiritual, mental and physical well-being and that of your people?

I tell you that liberalism is but another facet of the Jewish-inspired heresy that seeks to undermine anything that might be a bastion against it. Even Christianity is under attack and not free from the myopic liberalism that seeks to replace divinity and sanctity of life with contemporary and fleeting utopia.

Debasement of man by reduction of every moral and principle of natural law down to what emotions govern the crowd and what feels good at this time is the utter betrayal of the chief characteristic of what Christianity should be about - worship of God.

Do not listen to these who decry Christianity as a force that weakens you either - for nearly 2000 years it was the church that spearheaded both the growth of families, fostered concepts of international law and science and provided itself to be a vehicle for the Roman and Greek traditions that would otherwise be lost. Teachings of Jesus that speak of the weak and downtrodden, that speak of salvation of the masses and of love for you fellow man also speak of throwing away the bad fruit, of cutting down the sick fig tree, of casting out the wasteful servant and of rising against corrupted merchants in the temple. Salvation is not just about love, but is also about purity, for salvation cannot be brought to the masses if it is tainted by a bad element in the midst of it. Corruption must be rooted out and your fellow man must be guarded against it if you truly love him.

There is no Europe without Christianity, and what is being promoted as Christianity nowadays is not the true Church, it is corruption.

Or how about the Serbian patriarch?
en.islamtoday.net/artshow-229-3500.htm


Remove kebab comrade holy war now, hail Jewtin and the Jewish chosen people!!!

southfront.org/patriarch-irinej-do-not-allow-anyone-to-divide-us/

Holy war! Deus vult! Remove kebab! Memes!

Praise Yahweh and his only son, born of a virgin Jewess, Rabbi Jesus.

No they don't.

Ok, so how is this relevant today when they are all liberal globalist scum? They also historically owned slaves, but that doesn't change the fact that today their daughter has five niglet children with five different Tyrones.

WASPs are essentially Jews. The only decent people in all of American history were the German immigrants, but they quickly became Americanized and became just as Jewish and subhuman as the WASPs.

niceme.me

No, your assumption is wrong. Watching your religions public figurehead and representative signaling his extreme Jewish allegiance, makes ME uncomfortable.

It makes me think your brand of Jew worship is similar to other forms of Jew worship. Perhaps you even worship a Jewish man as a messiah demigod, and indoctrinate your children with the degenerate words of Jewish prophets.

I don't know who those mudslime looking men you post as honored representatives for your faith are. But I know that Putin guy. He's an old KGB commie isn't he? A high level guy in the Jewish ideology that riled up a lot of Slavs to kill white people… the only contender ideology to christcucks for the title of "most white people killed ever?"

You didn't counter my argument, you just ignored it and then made the same claim again. I see this same pattern from shills all the time, it's so sad that you idiots think you're not 100% transparent.


webm related is for you


Well Francis has said many times he thinks he'll die within 2-6 years of becoming Pope, and so far it's been 3. The next one could be worse though. Either way it's very unlikely any Pope will undo the Vatican II cuckening.


That's a normal greeting in Europe, dumbass. It's like shaking hands.


This is such a moronic meme. Orthodoxy started 2016 years ago, and until the Vatican broke away, it encompassed all of Christendom (all Christians in Europe, ME, and Asia). It's not "orthodox" by random fiat or by birthplace, it's orthodox because it has maintained the original church created by Christ without addition or subtraction.


That was just one priest who did that, he has no power elsewhere. And it happened due to concern trolling by some SJW bitch, just like they do with every other institution. Note that this is the only example the shills will ever give because they have no others.


Us: Athieism & Paganism are cucked (and also make no sense)
You: No, my very specific branch of Atheism/Paganism that is denounced by all the others is racialist so Atheism/Paganism isn't cucked!
Us: Atheism was invented by Jews, Neo-Paganism is a made-up fantasy that cannot ever revive true ancient Paganism because the oral traditions are completely lost and impossible to ever recover.
You: WE WUZ PLATO & THORZ!

#1) Christianity was born out of Judaism = Fact

#2) MOST people raised with Christianity may never become free their entire life = Fact

#3) Even telling them the truth will not make any difference, which is why Christians try to get them while they're young.

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There's the door, Ivan. Use it now.

Missed the point like a champ. Would you shake hands with a guy who makes public spectacles out of licking nigger toes for the glory of his Jew messiah?

I wouldn't. But then, I got some self respect.

Also, if your orthocuck official representative is just going bananas and not representing what you other orthocucks believes… why don't you reel that shit in and make that fucker behave?

You're using exactly the same argument as the catholicucks. But it's ok when you do it I guess.


This is why your memes are so pathetic and without any reach. You just meme better peoples memes in reverse. Memes are often effective because they contain irreverent and provoking truths. When people post pictures of the pope licking niggers, it's funny and provoking because it's true. 99.9% of christians are like that.

When you post pictures of shitskins holding signs claiming they are pagans, it's not funny or provoking because 99.9% of pagans are not like that, and everyone knows it. It's just embarrassing for you.

When people mock you for claiming to be original hebrewz, it's funny because there are lots of deus vults here who make that exact argument in a weak attempt to make their Jew dogma work in a racial sense. When you just reverse it, it's weak and forced because no pagan here ever claimed to have been a "Thor."

tldr; orthocucks are just as braindead as white christcucks.

It's called being diplomatic. Trump is going to shake hands with shit people too when he's president. The Orthodox church wants the Roman Catholics to merge back into the true mother church, that's what all this outreach and diplomacy is for. But it'll only happen if the Roman Catholics abandon all the changes they've made since 1054, since the Orthodox church won't change.

Nice made up statistic. Most Christians aren't like that either. That's the point. I demonstrated why your argument is bullshit by turning it around on you, and in all this ranting and raving you've failed to counter that argument at all. I'm not a Catholic, but clearly if the Pope's political opinions mattered to Catholics then the nations that are the most heavily and devoutly Catholic (the ones in South America) would be the ones most open to bringing in open immigration, and yet Mexico has a wall on its southern border and tortures illegal immigrants. Nobody except for white nations takes people in because the problem is caused by white altruism, not by any particular religious belief.

No, but they claim to worship Thor, which is a blatant lie and they know it. They don't believe Thor exists or has power in this world. Period. They also can't worship him because the actual methods of worship are GONE. They are lost to time forever. They were oral traditions that are now lost and can never be recovered. It is impossible to be a pagan. That's why we call it LARPaganism.

Has a single poster in this thread claimed that?
Well ain't that some pretty projection. A bit insecure about the existence of your Semitic deity now that we know there is no evidence that it is anything more than a historic off-shoot of other Canaanite religions? I can imagine why, considering it's a foreign tradition which began with another race, there really is no way for you to restart it, unlike paganism. You see, paganism can always be restarted as long as their are Europeans around to worship their own ancestors. After all, we know from rigorous study of the emergence and function of religions in society that folk religions grow from ancestor worship and the retelling of myths in order to instill the values of the monomyth in the next generation. Those "actual methods of worship" don't matter, because we aren't kikes that turn spirituality into a legal system in order to enslave people. In a sense, LARPing isn't a bad term for pagan theology, which is why I don't think anyone really cares when you cucks trot out that term. It just shows that your entire concept of religion is based on a Semitic world view, that you would think what you're doing isn't LARPing and yet what we're doing is. Meanwhile, we actually read things other than texts written by rabbis and therefore understand the true nature of religion. When you cucks make inane statements like "It is impossible to be a pagan," it just goes to show how much of a race traitor you are. You would rather rail against racialist spirituality by spreading falsehoods based on Semitic ideals than stop worshiping a Semite and a Semitic god.

user….

The opinions of the five Deus Vult LARPers on Holla Forums don't outweigh the beliefs of the millions of Catholicucks. They are true Cuckstians, inheritors of the traditions of the cult founded by Jesus. Remember, the Orthocucks advocate for white genocide as well, and the other major denominations in addition. You are attempting to say that 99.9% of Cuckstians are wrong, including the church leaders who tradition dictates are superior in their closeness to your Semitic god than you are, and that you have the true vision of the religion which is known only to the four other retards on the internet. And they're all quoting the same Semitic holy book to justify their beliefs, so you can't really claim to have a better understanding of it.

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The difference is that atheism and paganism are not inherently cucked because they don't have any official doctrine. Catholicism is cucked in the actual dogma of the church. It is impossible to be an adherent Catholic who follows church doctrine and not be a cuck.

Same with orthococks.

There's no need to restart it because it has been continuous since its inception 2016 years ago.

LOL worshipping a human being. The ultimate cuckening.

And there you have it, the admission that paganism is not a religion at all and is simply a different window dressing on top of fedoraism. Here we have the pagancuck unironically using the Jewish academic definition of religion in order to convince himself that religion is actually just culture, and that no such thing as spirituality really exists, but that it's all just a psychological trick that humans do for the purpose of culture and tradition.

This is why nobody will ever take you seriously. Christians are actually religious, we actually believe in our religion, wheras pagancucks just take cultural memes and call it a religion and pretend that somehow that's equivelent to genuinely worshipping the one true God that created the world…

And because you have this Jewish academic view of religion, this is precisely why the "semitic origins" of Christianity is such a fundamental source of endless obsession for you, and why you can't comprehend why we don't give a shit. Because you don't understand what it means to actually believe in the one true God. You don't understand, and refuse to understand, that the Hebrew people were simply a vessel, a tool, used by God not particularly for their benefit but rather for the benefit of all human races and nations. They served their purpose, but then they betrayed him. Yet God's will cannot be usurped by foolish mortals, and so despite their rebellion against Him, he sent down Christ to finish the work that was started. At that point, 2016 years ago, the people of Israel ceased to have any particular significance to God, because they had served their purpose and now salvation is open to all the peoples of Earth, just as God intended from the start. Those that are still Jewish today have openly rejected God and therefore he has rejected them right back. But you'll never understand this, because you don't believe in a spiritual realm, you don't believe in God (or Thor), you don't believe in angels and demons, and so you only see a "semitic religion" like some sad myopic old man that can't see past his own nose.


I'm not a Catholic and I agree it's been cucked since the Vatican II. But this doesn't mean that Catholics (as in, ordinary people that follow the faith) are as cucked as the Pope wants them to be. See for example the fact that South America are not the ones importing millions of mudslimes. The problem is not religion, the problem is white altruism.

There is no cucked doctrine in the Orthodox Church. If you claim otherwise, cite actual doctrine, if you even know what doctrine is, which I doubt.

Funny how none of them address my posts showing the patriarchs of Russia and Serbia bending over backwards to appease the Muslim hordes. There are others as well. Most patriarchs cuck out in the face of Islam.

So then we need to create a healthy environment in the mainstream media that doesn't encourage nihilism and self-destruction. Then the masses of Euro's will see the light.

underrated

He is not a Christian.
In order to be a Christian he has to believe that salvation is through faith in Jesus.
He believes that salvation is through works irregardless of belief in Jesus

I hope you love the sand niggers that you worship because you are going to join them in mudslime hell for changing the words of the Bible.

Jesus was a mortal Semite, yet Cuckstians worship him.

Cuckstianity is a Jewish religion, defined academically. But whatever, you can take your ideals from rabbis while the rest of us study and read to actually understand things. You believe, we know. If you want your religion to be anything more than culture and memes, you have to prove that there is divinity in play. No Cuckstian can prove such a thing, and all of you cucks rely on the fallback that your god doesn't show himself to mortals through ordinary means. In other words, you justify believing in things for which there is no evidence by embracing ignorance as a virtue.

Racialist spirituality IS religion, you are free to prove this wrong by proving the Semitic deity you worship to exist if you can. What you are worshiping is a racial deity for Semites and a human Semitic cult leader. Nothing more. You believe in something more, but there is no evidence to support that belief. You listen to and believe Semites and you have the gall to say that others don't believe in a spiritual realm. Your spiritual realm is nothing but justification for liberal indoctrination. Accepting a foreigner as god is the first step on the path to opening your borders to foreigners, as evidenced by THE FACT THAT ALL MAJOR CUCKSTIAN CULTS ADVOCATE FOR WHITE GENOCIDE.

Are you denying the quotes from the dear Patriarch about allowing white genocide through immigration? Are you denying the pictures of the Patriarch making nice with Semites?
ALL Cuckstians are race traitors.

The Talmud was written in the 6th century. They may have based Judaism on the beliefs of the Pharisees but it originated at a later date.

We are simply not adapted to live in an environment with so few evolutionary pressures. Africans are the best developed to live in an environment that is so safe because they never had any pressure to evolve. We thrive in adversity but eliminated all the dangers from our civilization and because we were missing something, we started to create dangers.


He is the creator.

Ftfy.

Reported.

We worship Jesus because we believe he is God, not a mortal. You however just admitted that you unironically worship dead people who you believe to be mortals. That's just sad.

No, I don't, since that's not what faith is. Nobody here is trying to convert you, you sad insecure little man, and yet you get so defensive whenever someone stands up for their religion that you endlessly attack. If you attack someone, you can't then turn around and get mad that they defend themselves. And by the way, science can't even "prove" anything, so how could religion do so? And if you think science actually does prove anything, that just reveals that you follow the religion of Scientism.

How does a spirit have a race? Race by definition is biological, which is physical. Spirituality is non-physical.

Of course there is. What you actually mean to say is there's not enough evidence to prove it, but again, nothing can actually be proven except for abstract logical and philosophical concepts. Anything having to do with the world ourside our own heads is completely impossible to prove. If you don't understand that, then your IQ is too low to be here.

Actually, it's pretty much exclusively white Christians (and white non-Christians) who advocate for this. Because the problem is not religion, the problem is white altruism.

Thanks for proving my prediction that you don't know what docrine is.

The Talmud was what the Jews called the "Oral Torah", which was finally written down. Before that it was carried on as oral tradition, beginining during or after the Babylonian exile, before the time of Christ. Jesus referred to it as "the tradition of the elders". After Christ, they continued to add to it, specifically to add justifications for why they hate Jesus and why it's a good thing to persecute Christians, etc.

I agree 100%. White altruism was vital for survival in the harsh winters, but now it's the very thing that's threatening our survival.

From the looks of it, it is pretty sparse, just the Creed, sacraments, resurrection, and internal workibg s of the church. This sparsity can be seen as a field for cuckoldry. Without proper defenses and doctrine against cuckoldry (which they don't appear to possess) it is wide open for subversion. It is a lot like libertarianism in that way. And looking at your patriarchs, it may already be happening. See here:

The only thing that has protected it so far seems to be that it is an irrelevant religion only practiced in third world countries.

But I am sure I could find plenty of cuckoldry in the writings of the theologians, saints, church fathers, etc. given the state of your leaders.

Oops, meant to link also.


Go ahead and try. You'll only find it among the most recent, and only among whites. Because the problem isn't religion, it's white altruism.

There is no such thing as white altruism. What people call "white altruism" is really white desire to conform to moral standards. Desire to be good, law-abiding, and socially accepted. When those moral standards are set by Christfags and globalists, they will be Christfags globalists along with them.

If the moral standards are set by national socialists, they will be national socialists along with them as well.

He keeps saying this, yet offers NO alternative. Where are the hordes of strong redpilled viking warriors? The numbers of pro-white Christians probably outnumber the total numbers of all pagans. And the opinions of your four-man band that meets up innawoods to smoke weed in the name of Freyja don't outweigh anything.

Obviously the most influential pro-white people are not religious. o

What I'm hearing from you now is the moral relativism invented by Jewish academics. Morality is objective. The name Aryan actually means "the noble, gentle race". This name was earned long, long before Christianity came along. The reason why most Leftists do what they do is simply because they're being fed incorrect information. They genuinely believe that the races are the same and that there can be no possible harm from mixing, and therefore they see peoples' feelings being hurt by racism and they decide to side with the people whose feelings are being hurt, since they genuinely don't see any downside whatsoever. This is caused by the Jewish propaganda spewed through all our institutions. The fact is, if this progaganda was actually true, then the Leftists would be completely right in what they do and believe. So the problem is not that they want to be moral; we all do (except for people like yourself who are probably sociopaths, but thankfully you're a small minority). The problem is that their good intentions don't line up with the facts. I have good, moral intentions too, but since I took care to actually look into the facts, I've come to the conclusion that far-right politics are necessary to achieve the moral goal of maximum benefit to all. This is the same reason that Hitler and the Nazis gave for their positions, as well as Trump and nearly everyone else whose ever had these positions aside from the occasional kook like yourself who just wants to justify their bloodlust.

And the number of anti-white Cuckstians is greater than both of those, as evidenced by the fact that every major Cuckstian denomination advocates for white genocide through acceptance of immigration and reconciliation with Semites. There is simply no alternative, ALL Cuckstians are race traitors who worship a mortal Semite and a deity created by Semites.


The entire justification for your nonsense is "faith." You believe that you are right because you believe that you are right. Yet, you posit that others can be wrong despite their own faith in their own positions. If you believe that Jesus was more than a mortal, I believe in ethno-centric spiritualism that pervades all members of the race. So what makes your belief more valid? Nothing. There is no logically consistent evidence suggesting that Jesus was anything more than a mortal cult leader or that the god of Abraham is anything more than a racial deity the same as the pagan pantheons. When the basis of your entire religion is empty faith, you have no room to say that others are wrong. Transcendental god? Eastern religions describe the concept more eloquently, so why are you a Cuckstian instead of a Buddhist?

For Cuckstians, it all comes back to choosing to worship a Semite and a Semitic god. If you were really committed to a transcendental view of divinity, you'd abandon the desert fairy tales. But that isn't what Cuckstians are committed to, they choose slavery to kikes because that is what the rabbis they have grown up with have told them to do.

To be fair, from the look of him he is a kike, blended yes, but it seems there.

Dick face, shit nose, thin upper lip, big ears, hunch, even the cuck way he talks. Never mind his incessant push in the direction of Jew goals. Fucking lulz the yids displaced the old emperor looking dude for a kike. darth emperor wasn't evil enough for them I guess. Go figure.

No, I'm positing an equivelence in faith; you are the one positing a difference.

That's fine, I just asked you to explain how a spirit can have a race, but instead of doing so you're throwing a tantrum like a little babby. Logical contradictions are among the set of things that can actually be proven to be false, so having faith in a contradiction is therefore provably wrong. So I'm just asking if you have any justification for how attaching race (a physical thing) to spirit (a non-physical thing) is not a contradiction. I'm not even claiming that it is, I'm just wondering if you have even bothered to think about this question. Christians have been thinking carefully about our theology for 2016 years (at least, Orthodoxy has), so I'm naturally going to hold your beliefs up to the same standard since you've chosen to compare them.

Of course there is. Stop insulting the intelligence of your Christian ancestors. I thought you claimed that you want to worship your ancestors, and now you want to spit on their memory by lying about them?

God is clearly different. The "racial" deities of paganism were seen as only being the gods of that race, while other races had other gods. Your gods created you, other gods created other people. Somehow they also believed that their god was the creator of the world, but somehow the other peoples' also had creator gods. Beats me how they justified this. Meanwhile, the God of the Old Testament is entirely different, because the Bible doesn't describe him as the God of only the Hebrew people, but rather as the Most High God of all mankind, who created the world and all the people in it. It even describes how the different races and languages came about by God's deliberate choice to create separate races and keep them separate. He then chose the descendents of Abraham in particular to be the special servants of God; their task was to prepare themselves to be morally upright so that one day, when the time comes, God will send down the Messiah (Christ), who will lead them to bring salvation to all of mankind. Of course, the Hebrew people kept failing to live up to God's moral standards and kept betraying him, but nonetheless they served their purpose long enough so that Christ could arrive to finish the work.

Salvation basically means completing the project of the creation of Man, as it is still actually an ongoing project. Before Christ, we were a catapillar, and after Christ we are in our coccoon, and upon his second coming, we will become the butterfly of a higher spiritual existance beyond the physical world, just as the butterfly frees itself from gravity to live within a whole nother dimension of existance. However, the spiritual world is not an easy place to exist; you must have a strong spirit for that, and that's the purpose of Christianity, to serve as the means by which we can train our souls to be strong enough to actually achieve eternal life in heaven; those who fail this task will not make it. As Jesus explains, the branches that live will bear fruit, but the dead branches must be culled and cast into the flame. Essentially, it's a spiritual eugenics program.

Sounds like heaven to me.

When you are fucked to hell and back anyway…. what is to stop a man from doing vile evil things to his enemy for all eternity. Unrestrained from needs and responsibilities I could just start bashing the ever loving shit out of them. The more leftists and their ilk that are sent to me the more fun and inventive I can be. Imagine pulling their face into yours and biting it off piece by piece, tearing their eye socket out while they are wailing about the evil white man and raping their socket. Pulling their legs off and using it as a bat to smash the bodies of the others….. and the best part, they cannot die. You can just keep going….. forever.

Vengeance. I could listen to their spew for an eternity. I have done it my whole fucking life anyway. What change? Instead it can fuel my rage and savage spite to my hearts contentment. Fuck burning flesh and sulfur smells. I will cloth myself in their skin and bask in the loosened bile of their innards as they watch what I will do to them. I am willing to wager 10 to one that I will surprise even a few immortal demons with my new and cruel ways.

Viejo hijo de mil puta la concha de tu madre!
Me da verguenza que seas Argentino mamaberga arenosa, por que lo vas a lamer el ojete a tus maestros judios maricon sumiso de mierda, como puede alguien ser tan pelotudo.
Ojala que alguno de esos negros de mierda a los que se la chupa lo atragante con waska asi empieza una puta guerra santa de una puta vez
;prote hijo de un edificio lleno de mil putas con vista a la reconcha de tu hermana!!!
me recontra cago en todos los abortos que se hiso tu putisima vieja asi como me voy a recontra cagar en tu putisima tumba hasta construirte un mausoleo de mierda viejo sorete mal cagado

You are free to prove that Jesus was anything more than a mortal Semite. The world awaits such evidence with bated breath, but none has come forward these past two thousand years.

You just got done saying that other religions account for cosmology in the same way. The Abrahamic tradition is no different from other racial spiritualities. It is a religion created by Semites for Semites based on Semitic ideology and explains the ordering of the world according to certain tribes of Semites. Cuckstianity is no different from Hinduism in its assertion of transcendental divinity, the difference between the two is in the racialism which underlies the ideals of the religions. The Semitic religion contains proselytizing subversive notions found in no other religion. It is the single religion which demands of its adherents that their faith be confirmed by quashing all other faiths, because otherwise there is no justification for turning away from tradition and believing that a mortal Semite is part of the divine and that a god created by Semites is the omni-god. With academic study, we can trace the origins of the Abrahamic tradition to being nothing more than a folk religion for Semites. That is simply the fact of our reality.

So why are you participating in a folk religion for Semites instead of one created by your own race? Because you have faith in a Semite, a Semitic god, a Semitic tradition, and Semitic holy texts despite the clear evidence that these are all nothing more than fairy tales?

My ancestors were smart enough to see the truth about the Semitic cult, thus why I was never indoctrinated by rabbis either. And of the maybe thousand year history of Cuckstianity among my earlier ancestors, there are tens of thousands of years of European men who upheld the faith of our race before that. I choose to uphold the European tradition too, instead of embracing a Semitic one. Cuckstianity is a momentary imperfection which has already begun to recede into the mists of time. The only people that follow the Cuckstian tradition now are progressives, as is evidenced by the fact that every major Cuckstian denomination advocates for white genocide.

Well, that doesn't change the fact that the other guy is right, and your word salad is a mishmash of misapplied logic. Everyone but a kike cultist sees this.

Who the fuck cares? I can describe my cat as the Most High God of all mankind. Except if I do it it's a bit more probable than when Jews do it.

The other guy who is patiently trying to learn you kindergarden level rationality is asking you "how can you say your LARP is any better than my LARP when both are unknown factors?" You can't answer. Just go do charity work at the refugee center or something similarly christian, cause you can't into this logic business.

"Cause Jewbook says so" is not evidence in this world to other people than you semi-kikels. Repeat that as a mantra 1000 times and you might get a millimeter closer to enlightenment.

More like a Jewish genocidal eugenics pogrom.

#NotAllCatholics

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I don't entirely disagree, but when will people just realize that religion comes second to politics and social stigma? The interpretations of the Bible, and the message that the Pope pushes will always shift with the times. Europe was predominantly Christian for hundreds of years, and there was a lot of glory and fortune to be found in those times, so why weren't they cucked like we are now? Because, like I said, religion comes second. The sooner people stop pushing this infighting against Whites that could potentially be on our side, the better.

You didn't even decry his point, instead you just projected. If we can reach the conclusion that both atheists and Christians have universalist tendencies, then can't we finally, once and for all, fucking agree that religion has nothing to do with this? It's being used as a vehicle to push certain messages, sure, but this has been true throughout history for all sorts of different messages. I've had enough of the infighting, and I think all of Holla Forums should've had enough, too.

Not even trying.

Cuckstian ideology demands that faith comes first, because blind faith is the only justification for abandoning racialist spirituality. Cuckstians can never be racially aware traditionalists. There is no justification for worshiping a Semite other than listening to and believing Semites about what is true.


I'm tired of the infighting too, that's why I know that Cuckstians have no place in European reactionary movements. They place the importance of a foreign tradition as greater than our race. Otherwise, they would have no problem abandoning Semitic fairy tales in favor of European spirituality. There will be infighting until the consensus against Cuckstianity is so clear that they don't even bother sending shills to advocate for following religious leaders whose ideals are antithetical to European civilization. ALL of the major Cuckstian denominations advocate for white genocide. The teachings attributed to the mortal Semite Jesus are proto-Marxist hogwash that provide justification for abandoning racialist ideals (which we know to be an important pillar of traditionalist society) and native traditions as evidenced by the leaders of those white genocide advocating cults all referencing those teachings.

Cuckstians are not racially aware traditionalists, and the very fact that they worship a mortal member of another race and a non-existent god created by that race while participating in a tradition which was started by that race and includes the attempted genocide of racially aware spiritualists as well as the destruction of the spiritual heritage of Europe precludes Cuckstians from ever being racially aware traditionalists. So why the fuck should we tolerate their existence when we know that racially aware traditionalism is the only true path?

No, I'm not, as I've already explained, and you chose to ignore because you're a shill arguing in bad faith for the sake of D&C.

…and then I went on to explain how they're different, and you simply chose to pretend that part of my post doesn't exist. This makes everything else you say after this point irrelevant because you are once again just repeating your claim while ignoring my argument against it.

Lol it's like you're progressively getting more and more mental as time goes on… here you're now claiming there's only one "Semitic religion"… okay there buddy, which one is it then? You making lots of claims about this supposed "Semitic religion", and yet you haven't bothered to explain which religion you're even talking about, so your claims are irrelevant. It certainly doesn't describe Christianity at all, since Christianity doesn't believe in going around forcing people to convert. It sounds like you're talking about Islam.

LOL there you go again, unironically claiming that Jewish academia is actually a source of truth about reality! XD This is too good. Next you're going to tell me that the world is one big racist capitalist patriarchy opressing women, people of color, and LGBT people! After all, academia said so, so it must be "simply the fact of our reality."

LOL I'm not sure if you've concentrated your usage of the word Semitic enough, you might want to sprinkle some more in there, I'm sure it'll magically make people agree with you if you just keep repeating it enough times without ever once responding to my explanation of why this is entirely irrelevant to us. The stupidity is truly astounding.

So then why would you want me to believe in "fairy tailes" made up by some other race instead? Oh right, because you don't believe in them either, you just advocate LARPing.


This sentence means nothing, since you haven't replied to anything, and therefore nobody knows who this "other guy" is or what exactly he's supposedly "right" about, nor which "word salad" is a "mishmash" of which "misapplied logic", or in what way. But of course that would require the intellectual capacity to actually form a rational argument.

The difference is patently clear: I'm not LARPing by anyone's standards except for his. He however openly admits to LARPing. In other words, I believe my religion, but don't believe his. Wheras he believes neither my religion nor his own, and yet still claims that his religion should be followed (by those of his own race). If you can't understand the logical difference here, it's because you suffer from brain damage.

And that's not anything more than a strawman argument to anyone other than fedorapagans.

Well you're a big smelly doo doo head. See, I can make random claims without any supporting argument too.


This is just more shilling by making unsubstantiated claims about Christianity, repeating the same shit that shills have claimed over and over and over again.

Daily reminder that Christians are the majority here, your shilling doesn't work. It only gives us an opportunity to keep defeating your arguments, thus reenforcing our position.

Saging because this is now a shill/slide thread.

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OK, but you're missing my point. Christians never used to be this cucked even 100 years ago, so why are they cucked now? Because their religious interpretations and political consensus relies on society, not the religion. If it really relied on religion, then there wouldn't be so many ideologically opposed Popes throughout history. Do you see where I'm going with this? My point is that the religion isn't worth fighting about at all, because there are based Christians and cucked Christians, just like there are based White people and cucked White people.
I don't even think that is a problem. You shouldn't worship your race, because our race will always have pitfalls, which has been made abundantly clear now. I'm not Christian, but I don't knock them for placing faith in a higher power. Religion shouldn't be tossed out the window in favor of race worship and atheism.
Except they were for centuries, and this has only changed recently.
You guys really miss the point when Holla Forumsack Christians argue the point that the Jews of the Bible aren't the Jews of today. Watch Marching to Zion for a better explanation than I can give you.
At least give them some credence in their own religion. If you keep arguing that Christianity is cucked, even after they give you a different perspective and a potential way out of the cucking, then you aren't actually trying to help anyone here.
What an intentionally loaded statement to make.
The entire fucking point is that Europeans have been Christian for hundreds of years, and many Whites are still Christian now, so we shouldn't cast out our race's current traditions while there are bigger things to worry about. Stop intentionally dodging the point. You worship race in one breath, and then knock most people of your kin in another. I've fucking had enough of the belligerent one-siders, both atheist and Christian, on this fucking board.
Wait, didn't you just say that you're tired of the infighting? You're a fucking joke. Also, how are the ideals antithetical to European civilization when we've used Christianity as our religious base for hundreds of fucking years? What is so hard for you people to understand about this? Let me redtext this so everyone can skim my post and still understand my message:
Society informs the moral consesus of the religion, not vice versa. By attempting to thwart the religion of your ancestors for hundreds of years, no matter how right or wrong your beliefs are, you are fundamentally missing the point.
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The leadership doesn't always inform the base (see: The Republican Party's presumptive nominee being Donald Trump) (see: Catholic Poland in ).
Except these teachings came way before Marx.
Except all of our ancestors during the times of World exploration pillaged countries in both the name of Christ and in the name of racial superiority.
You are exactly wrong on that. Evola taught that religion is the most important pillar of traditionalist society (he knocked Christianity, by the way).
I'm not even going to reply to most of that last paragraph because I'd just be repeating myself.
Because we need as little infighting as possible, and judging by the amount of Holla Forumsack Christians that will argue until they're blue in the face about how redpilled their religion is, we should accept that most religion can be interpreted and bent endlessly towards any one side of politics & philosophy. Christianity has been a pillar of European history for years, and your revisionism coinciding with modern times doesn't change that. Also, stop fucking advocating for traditionalism in the same breath as saying that race comes before all, because it's extremely triggering, and shows that you know literally nothing about traditionalism.


Bumping to oust the other faggot I'm replying to, not you.
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Yep, that's pretty much your 1000 word argument.

Hey nigger.
Don't fuck with my shit
And kill yourself too.

I'm defending them on principle. Sorry I actually care, unlike you anime shitposting faggots.

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But Catholics, Orthodox, Protestants, Anglicans, Mormons and any other denomination one could name aren't true Cuckstians based on the definition put forward by Deus Vult LARPers. None of the members of those cults count as Cuckstian, and thus even the silly poll images you cucks sometimes parade around to back up your lie about being a majority are invalid.

What you mean is that you can't prove otherwise, because it is simply a fact that he was a mortal Semite. If you could prove otherwise, your cults wouldn't be losing membership to rationalist ideologies.

No, you went on to say that Cuckstianity is correct, even though it isn't any different from other religions (except for the proselytizing penchant and the disregard for racialism). It is internally consistent, but so is every religion. Cuckstians state that they are right, and so do followers of Shintoist folk religion. So what objective evidence is there which proves that Cuckstianity is anything more than a proto-Marxist cult founded by a mortal Semite in the tradition of a god created by other Semites? NONE. You have faith, which every other religion has in equal measure. So why does your faith mean that Cuckstianity is right, but the faith of a pagan is somehow invalid?

Where have I said that you must believe in pagan myths? The only thing I ever say is the truth: that Cuckstianity is nothing more than a Semitic religion and that by believing in the mythology of another race all Cuckstians make themselves into race traitors. I don't care what you believe or don't believe, as long as it isn't the ideology of another race. If you have faith in another race, I know you have none in your own.

There you go again, unironically claiming that all academic study is influenced by Semitic ideology despite being a person that worships a Semite and a Semitic god while adhering to a Semitic tradition. Perhaps instead you could argue against the theories of religious studies, but of course you can't actually do that because there is no argument which disproves that Cuckstianity is a religion created by Semites in accordance with Semitic traditions.

There is a reason that I use the term Cuckstianity. Accepting a foreigner as a deity and integrating a foreign tradition into one's worldview makes EVERY (non-Semitic) adherent a cuck. You cannot be a racially aware traditionalist and accept foreign ideology in the place of one's own race's ideology.

Religion is nothing more than a vehicle for transferring the ideals of the current generation to the next and integrating a new generation into society through retelling and reliving the monomyth. For hundreds of years, our culture has been subverted by foreign influence, compared to the tens of thousands of years of European spirituality. If you want to talk about the weight of tradition, paganism wins out over Cuckstianity every time. Even the manifestation of the Cuckstian cults in Europe was shaped by pagan tradition.

Cuckstian tradition itself argues otherwise. Any follower of a pope or patriarch is assumed to hold that leader's views as divine truth.

And now the majority of Cuckstians are anti-racist, as evidenced by the fact that they follow sects whose leaders advocate against racialist ideology. If they did not hold that position, they would not consider themselves members of those sects. The Deus Vult LARPers don't even consider them to be actual Cuckstians because they belong to those sects, although they fail to point out a sect which doesn't advocate such positions other than the imaginary Cuckstianity they preach on the internet.

There will always be infighting as long as Cuckstians consider themselves conservatives and try to associate with our reactionary causes. It's the same way with libertarians, they simply cannot be accepted as allies because they advocate the same liberal nonsense as the enemy. Cuckstians support worshiping a mortal Semite and a god created by Semites despite the overwhelming evidence which shows that there is nothing special or transcendental about their religion. For as long as Cuckstians think that they are on equal terms with those of us that actually want to uphold the traditions which saw civilization founded by Indo-Europeans, there will be infighting, because Cuckstians place their faith in Semites before faith in our race. If they placed our race above everything else, they'd agree to stop worshiping a Semite and a Semitic god, because that's all that Cuckstianity is. One cannot build a European society on a foundation which isn't European. Cuckstianity isn't European. Semitic savior, Semitic god, Semitic tradition.

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Man you got some stamina.

He'll never get it of course, and just retreat into his la-la land where "Jesus is a cocoon for spiritual eugenics" or whatever madness his warped brain twists out to try and escape his eternally Jewish circular thought pattern.

But it's decent of you to do it, nevertheless. The silent majority is watching and learning how terrible this mind virus truly is.

Notice how it's so important to them to try and forge the idea that they are a majority here. That's because they are oversocialized creatures, just like leftists. Consensus is more important than truth, which is why they lie so easily.

Why would 4 year old stale reddit memes make anyone ass fractured?

So you spend 8 posts defending them on principle? If Christians are really that grate why aren't you one?


No mine was better.

But there is so much infighting in institutions such as the Catholic church itself, that nobody can trust the leadership anymore. It doesn't matter what's written in the rules, because we're talking about the politics of religion here.
The leadership and ideals being presented change with the times. Did you even read my fucking post?
Traditionalist Catholics are explicitly anti-Jew, and there are always the creepy Christian Identity people.
So why not co-opt them and reform their views, instead of rejecting outright such a large demographic in Western civilization? You miss the point so hard that it's not even something to be laughed at. I just feel bad for how deluded you are in your "righteous" fedora trip.
I don't really disagree about libertarians, but we should be changing their minds of reforming their views enough to coincide with ours, not rejecting potential political recruits outright. Your purist fantasies are the reason why nothing gets done.
Which one is it? Should we worship mortal beings (our race), which is eternally flawed, or should we worship a higher power (doesn't have to be Christianity, but let them have their fun as long as it's redpilled)?
Except we have, for hundreds of years, which you refuse to acknowledge.
Don't get me wrong, by the way, because I understand the position in favor of empowering native religion, but Christianity is such a large segment of European tradition and history already that there's no good enough reason to try and take it on as an institution. You will never get anywhere by trying to do this. Also, I take it that you dislike Trump because he's a Christian?


Yes, because I browse Holla Forums for fun in my free time, and use Holla Forums as an outlet to refine my rhetoric, argumentative tactics, and writing skills. I'm really not the only one that does this.
I never said Christians are so "grate." My point is that we're better off trying to work with Christians to build a redpilled society, in the short term at least, than we are outcasting so many people. It's still amazing to me that you guys advocate for worshipping race, but somehow acknowledge how many problems there are with White people now.

and* reforming

I have trouble buying calls for unity from a user trying to use the hat meme as a argument all in the same post.

Also, why shouldn't we "co-opt and reform" marxists, instead of rejecting outright such a large demographic in Western civilization?

I think you're on to something here. Let's stop shitting on the SJWs and instead make them our allies. More diversity and tolerance will be our strength.

My point is that we're better off trying to work with marxists to build a redpilled society.

lel

Why don't we just co-opt the jews while were at it.

Just because I meme on atheists doesn't mean I'm against working with them.


Except marxists aren't a "large demographic" in Western civilization. Shit false equivalency, tbh. Their spawn, liberals, might be, but you don't compromise to your directly contrasting enemies. I know that this is bait so that you can intervene and equate Christians to Marxists, but despite the message you guys are pushing, many Christians in America are actually right-wingers, so I'd rather "cater" (read: not build a platform dedicated to shitting on them) to them than appeal to atheists, which are mostly leftists.
Epic memes, faggot. Again, false equivalency.

Because Christians aren't Jews. Being radically purist will literally do nothing to help us. If you don't even do so much as appeal and give slight credence to people that slightly differ from your world view, then you will never win the hearts and minds of the masses. At that point, there is no reason for you even being here, unless you just want to make Holla Forums a never-ending nihilist hugbox with no political motives.

I would hardly call it that, just rather suspicious of both your neutrality and the supposed unity you are trying to create when you are attacking everyone but the christcucks.

Consensus IS truth for them, remember that they consider faith to be the highest form of knowing. This is the quandary that forces them to convert or kill others, because their justification for turning their backs on tradition is no greater than the faith which sees others adhere to tradition. The only option for the Cuckstian is to make everyone else a cuck as well, otherwise the cognitive dissonance becomes unbearable and their fear of metaphysical punishment at the hands of a Semitic god is triggered. Cuckstianity is truly nothing more than magical thinking taken to its illogical extreme. Obliterate truth by creating a world of falsehood, the internally consistent nature of which provides justification for ignoring that truth in the first place. That is the treacherous foundation of Cuckstian faith.

Racially aware traditionalists cannot accept Cuckstians because traditionalist ideology is rooted in the knowable truth of the natural order rather than the faith in unknowable principles which underlies Cuckstian ideology. Cuckstianity as a concept is a rejection of everything which caused our ancestors to be able to first forge civilization.


Because you say so?

Then where is the anti-pope around which they are rallying in rejection of the anti-racist ideology of the Catholic establishment?

That's what these threads are for. The Deus Vult LARPers will be executed with the rest of the race traitors, and the others will accept the new, non-Cuckstian society because they are nothing more than followers. When there are no longer rabbis for them to follow, they will follow the traditions of our ancestors once more. But in order for that to happen, we have to put an end to the foreign tradition which is occupying our culture. There is no future for Cuckstianity because accepting it alongside a return to European ideology is impossible. To suggest otherwise is intellectually dishonest, ya know, Semitic religion that it is. Explaining these facts over and over in the face of pro-Cuckstian shilling IS how you reform those that aren't doomed to the gallows by their stupidity. Allowing Cuckstians to spread their falsehoods as if they were truths is just pawning off the problem onto another generation.

I don't care which, either can work as the basis for racialist spiritualism presuming that the tradition from which that higher power emerges isn't a foreign one. Cuckstianity is a foreign tradition. If Cuckstians cared about transcendental divinity, they wouldn't care about the Semitic fairy tales. They'd have no problem admitting that Jesus was a mortal Semite and the god of Abraham is nothing more than a racial deity of Semites, because neither of those facts precludes the existence of a higher power outside of Cuckstian tradition. However, they insist on adhering to that foreign tradition. This is what makes them race traitors. They are choosing another race over our own, and over the truth they so claim to love. There is no truth to Cuckstianity. If one wants to accept their view of the transcendent as true, it is no more valid than the Hindu view of the transcendent Brahman. But Cuckstians will swear up and down that Hinduism is false simply because they do not worship Jesus and the god of Abraham. The defining trait of Cuckstian tradition is that it is rooted in Semitism.

It's a false equivalency because you say so. I'm just awestruck at the hubris of a person using a fallacious appeal to authority… with himself as the authority.

To me a Jew cult and a Jew cult are very similar. To you, the cultist, they are very different. You have widely different theological perspectives like whether inherent sin is because of global warming or because of demons after all.

It's a matter of perspective. Too bad you are locked into your one perspective, where everything have to fit around your semite God (yeah, I don't buy your lie that you're not a christcuck.)

hot damn is this thread a fucking mess. this is like the perfect storm of everything shitty.

we have shills, we have theists and atheists at each others' throats, we have various theists fighting over whose religion is truer, we have theists within their own religions telling their fellow believers that they aren't truly believers because they don't ascribe themselves to the particular brand of belief that they should, you have lots of pope bashing and a little bit of pope defending, standard christcuck vs. jew vs. muslim standard warfare…fucking amazing. It's total madness in here.

It's like no matter what you say or what you believe, you're fucking wrong, and everybody else in the thread is going to write a book ripping you a new one just to prove that's the case.

That probably has something to do with the fact that I believe religion holds utmost importance to society in general, so of course I'm going to drift in sympathies more towards Christians. Besides, your "suspicions of my neutrality" are completely irrelevant to my points. You're just trying to adhom me as a Christian so you can spam me with memes and argumentative fallacies, but it's not going to happen because I'm simply not a Christian.


Because it's evidenced throughout history that revolution can come bottom to top, and not just with vice versa. I already stated a couple examples earlier.
What the hell is this sentence? Traditionalist Catholics don't just have an "anti-pope." You're making convenient assumptions to cast out all segments of Christianity and potential that they might have, but as per usual, you're missing the point. You're sowing seeds of division without any aims to reach an end goal, when in actuality you should at the very least understand their perspective, and try to figure out a compromise based on the core principles that both atheist and Christians on Holla Forums agree on.
Not really. To me it just looks like people memeing on Christians without ever trying to convince them of your position. That shit belongs on Reddit, in my opinion.
Depending on where you live, that is easily more than half of the White population. Good job, you fucking idiot.
Yes, I'm sure they will be more than happy to live under your Stalin-tier iron fist of no religion or faith allowed.
CHRISTIANITY IS THE TRADITION OF THEIR ANCESTORS. WEW LAD. STOP IGNORING KEY ELEMENTS OF MY POSTS. PAGANS GOT RAPED OUT OF EUROPE, GET THE FUCK OVER IT.
It's never going to happen.
Good luck.
There is no future for pure traditionalist religion, either, because your average White doesn't even know who titans like Spengler and Evola are.
Except Europe has been Christian for centuries. Get the fuck over yourself.
Based on what? At this point, you're just saying things to feed your hubris.
Even if the hundreds of millions of Christians on Earth were stupid, do you just plan on killing them all off for not conforming? If so, how many Whites do you think you'll have left, and how do you think your relations with the rest of the world will be? Your view of a "better future" is so unrealistic, that it borders on autistic. Actually, I think it is autistic.
So we should do what? Kill all Christians? Fuck off. You have no solutions.
What does racialist spiritualism mean? Worshipping race? Because you can count me out, since I look with disgust and disdain at so many people of my own race now. I believe in ethnic/racial nationalism for the sake of survival and philosophical consensus, but I no longer believe in Whites being an infallible master race, as that has been made abundantly clear that it's not true.
Look, I don't even disagree that Christianity is a foreign religion, giving it illegitimacy on principle, but I'm trying to be realistic here. I know we're idealists, but we need to look towards a future that's actually possible. You know what isn't possible? Removing Christianity, which has been the religion of our ancestors for centuries, from Europe.

No, you horse's ass. Christians can go either way on the left-right spectrum, which has been the central point of literally all of my posts, but Marxists are fundamentally left wing. That is the false equivalency.
How am I "appealing to authority" by ousting false equivalencies? There are just certain elements in posts that can be assumed from time to time. That doesn't mean that I've placed "myself as the authority." You're just lashing out at this point.
Looks like someone needs to watch Marching to Zion. The Jews rejected their position as the Chosen People when they killed Jesus. You guys simply aren't listening when Christians post on here in defense of their ideology, and that is exactly why I'm siding with them on this conflict.
And this is based on what exactly? Those are some random assumptions to draw to my posts.
What's a matter of perspective?
Pfff, what a shit point. I could say the same thing about you. Besides, I'm one of the most empathetic people on Holla Forums, because I can understand differing world views while not believing in them.
I'm not a Christian.
This is the textbook definition of ad hominem. You're trying to defeat my points on characteristics that don't relate to my posts in the way that you'd like them to. It's more than ironic that you tried to badger me for lacking perspective while pestering me for defending a differing world view on principle in the following sentence.

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Because you're a fedora.

Then there is no future for the European race. Cuckstianity is miscegenation of the soul, and at the end of that path is the world you see today. Every major Cuckstian denomination advocates for white genocide because that is what their religion says is correct. There is no redpilled Cuckstianity.

Are you fucking blind? How many times do I have to repeat the truth about the foreign and false nature of Cuckstianity and how Cuckstian belief is incompatible with European civilization because it is a rejection the racialist ideology necessary for stability? That is THE position, against which the Christcucks can only whine, "But a Semite said otherwise (or rather, this Semitic tradition and these Semitic texts say that a Semite said otherwise)."

Europe has no future with Cuckstianity, the options are to reject the Semitic ideology or to perish as a race.

>What does racialist spiritualism mean? Worshipping race? Because you can count me out, since I look with disgust and disdain at so many people of my own race now. I believe in ethnic/racial nationalism for the sake of survival and philosophical consensus, but I no longer believe in Whites being an infallible master race, as that has been made abundantly clear that it's not true.
You should really convert, you already have the cuck mentality down to a tee. Leave the discussions of the future to those of us that actually have an interest in the future, because you are simply too ideologically weak to present any argument. Compromise has never been an option. Cuckstian tradition is the destruction of European tradition. If it means killing 90% of whites because they refuse to abandon Semitism, then that is what is necessary for the survival of the race. You're right that it won't happen though. There aren't that many devout Christcucks and the type to still be that sort of idiot fall in line with whatever the majority culture becomes. It's the nature of people that adhere to slave morality to accept what they are told by their superiors. Deus Vult LARPers will demand that everyone convert or die, and they'll be killed for it. The rest will accept the new order willingly and Cuckstian belief will die out in a few generations due to the pressure of Cuckstians being relegated to second-class citizenship. Told from birth the truth about the foreign ideology and witnessing the wretchedness of their Cuckstian parents, those born into the restored European civilization will choose race over religion.


"According to Cuckstians"
According to Jews, they are still the chosen people. So what evidence is there to prove that the Cuckstians are in the right? No more than the Jews have of their correctness. Both sides' only source is an appeal to a god which doesn't exist. That is why we ignore Cuckstian defenses of their ideology, because they are not externally consistent with reality. It is this same reason which is why we state the facts surrounding Jesus' identity as a mortal Semite. Cuckstians argue that he is divine backed by nothing other than a faith which is no more or less truthful than the faith placed in other religions. "Jesus is god because Jesus said so (or is supposed to have said so by authors of Semitic religious texts decades to centuries after those supposed events occurred)."

I just want some based italian to stick a fucking stiletto in this piece of garbage.

Sure it was. ;^)

But outside your child-like, literal mind there are other spectrums than the left-right spectrum. Both marxism and christianity are completely "jew" on the "jew spectrum" for instance… being indisputably both created by jews, and filled with jewish notions like inherent sin, sick sexuality, dietary restrictions and hundreds of other examples which doesn't appear before your eyes, because your mind is in a tiny semitic box … which is also why it's not a false equivalency.

Even if such a great authority on the matter like you categorically declares it to be so because there is nothing in this universe beyond your limited understanding of things.

You haven't ousted shit. You're like that snarky teenager who thinks he knows everything, while everyone with a few years on their back rolls their eyes at you.

No, this is a lie you tell yourself.

Yes, to you they appear random because you don't understand them. In the cult, you don't see the cult. You don't see how similar you cucks are to marxists. You look at the differences, and fail to see how your Jewish programming make you act 99% the same, just with different words.

Focus now.

I agree it's a terrible insult to be called a Christian. What group have done more to harm the white race after all? Truly no one besides their masters the Jews.

Still, it's quite obvious you're one. You act like a christcuck, and argue like a christcuck. You demonstrate the inability to use basic logic and rationality like a christcuck. You use all the christcuck talking points, and spew Jew controlled opposition propaganda like "Marching to Zion." If you're not a christcuck, you might as well be one.

By their fruits you shall know them, y'know.

Amen to that. I'm pretty sure those are mostly paid shills though, on both sides. Real Holla Forumsacks have rational arguments with each other.


Thanks for admitting you've got nothing.


I don't even know what you're referring to as "Deus Vult LARPers", but yes, different Christian denominations disagree with each other on various bits of doctrine, which for the most part don't really have much to do with race or nationalism or anything related to Holla Forums. But none of this is even remotely relevant to the fact that Holla Forums is mostly Christian. Obviously the Christians on Holla Forums are race-aware nationalists, so your argument is nonsense.

Yes, that's right, because it's literally impossible to prove anything having to do with the world outside our own minds, and therefore your demand for proof is the unreasonable demand of an unreasonable person. I've already stated this before, and you're pretending that I didn't because you're a shill who's failing miserably to earn his pay. But go on, just keep repeating the same thing over and over and maybe somebody might eventually be fooled! What a sad existance.

Now you're just flat out lying as if you think nobody can scroll up and read for themselves. You know, it gets really boring when you stop trying.

Nobody claimed that buddy, you're literally just arguing with yourself right now. It's incredibly hilarious, you're actually living out some sort of weird fantasy where you imagine that someone is proslytizing to you, and you're valiantly defending against their terrible words, oh poor you, you poor victim, look how you fight against words you disagree with like the brave, brave victim that you are! Meanwhile, out here in the real world, we're all wondering what the hell you're even smoking.

Right before what I quoted you asked me why I don't just worship the "racial religion" of my own people…

This doesn't even relate to anything in this conversation. You're the only person here talking about worshipping race, whether it's yours or someone else's. Christians don't worship anybody's race, because that's retarded.

It actually is. I bet you got a liberal arts degree, didn't you? I feel bad for you. You do realize there's a massive difference between academic research vs. scientific research, right?

No matter how much you keep claiming this, it's never going to become true. This is exactly like when Leftists try to tell people whether they're racist or not, lmao. Things mean whatever I want them to mean! That's racist because I FEEL that it is! That's semite worship because I FEEL that it is!

Argue against what? You haven't even cited a single source you fucking moron. You do realize everybody is laughing at your incredibly incompetent attempts at shilling, right? That must be a sad feeling for you.

So you literally just declared that European culture for the past 1200-1700 years (varying by when each country converted) has been cucked. Okay there buddy, good luck winning lots of European converts to your political ideology! Retard.

Yes, Jewish influence, not Christians… But Jewish influence was very sparse and limited until about 100 years ago. By the way, they also subverted the Roman Empire while it was pagan. Deal with it.

Uh, you mean except for that time when it actually mattered and they decided to convert to Christianity because they believed the conquerer's religion is the true religion? Why didn't they stay true to their roots? Are you accusing your own ancestors of betraying their ancestors???

Yes, because Christians allowed it to, since Christianity is compatible with nationalism, and therefore your ethnic culture survives conversion to Christianity. The only real change was doing away with pagan degenerate practices, and various pagan gods became saints and were venerated instead of worshipped.

So what religion are you then if not Christian? I have a very hard time believing you view religion as that important but voluntarily abstain?

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Creative as ever.

But Catholics aren't real Cuckstians, according the the Protestants and the Orthodox. It goes the other way around. You either get to be a monolithic group, in which case the majority ideology of Cuckstianity is represented by the likes of the pope and the patriarchs, who all advocate for white genocide; or you get to nitpick your "true Cuckstians," in which case there are five shills on LARPing about the existence of a "true church" to which none of the Catholics, Protestants, etc. belong.

And you accuse atheists of nihilism. If your god exists, then he must be an objective existence and therefore provable to all individuals at all times. So, please prove the existence of such an objective god.

Fine, let them read about your refusals to provide objective justification for abandoning traditionalist ideals. I stand by my words.

Again, feel free to prove any of the claims you make. I know Cuckstians aren't used to anything outside of "faith," but the rest of us civilized folk have higher standards than that.

It's Semite worship because Jesus was a mortal Semite and nothing more, and the god of Abraham is nothing more than a creation of Semites. It is you who FEELS that there is a transcendent truth which negates those facts. You have yet to provide any proof that your position is correct.

Europeans are flocking AWAY from Cuckstianity. It is a religion which grows only in third world countries.

Because Cuckstians killed those that did and destroyed the priests and religious centers which served as those roots. Of course, you'll completely forgive Cuckstianity for attempted genocide. Otherwise, you'd have to reject a foreign and murderous tradition.

Yes, that is exactly what happened. Any of us alive today are almost certainly descendants of race traitors. We must not make the same mistake.

Assumed by you. This is false. Only when the Pope declares doctrine does it apply to all Catholics. Otherwise he's just some dude that has an opinion, and if you asked him he'd say the same. As for the Orthodox Patriarchs, you do realize there's many of them, right? And they all have equal power. And in fact, none of them have the power to declare doctrine on their own. The Orthodox Church decides doctrine through councils with representatives from every single Patriarchate around the world, and doesn't decide until it's 100% unanimous. Otherwise, again, it's just some dude with an opinion. Unlike paganism, we don't worship human beings as god-kings… in fact Christians fought against that very thing when the Emperor of Rome started seeing himself as a living god.

This is patently false. People don't treat religion like it's a fashion shirt you change whenever you feel like it. They simply disagree with the political opinion of those leaders, and then go on their way. Only if that political opinion somehow changes religious doctrine, that's when people will start looking elsewhere. But even then, it's a big deal to ask someone to totally uproot their lives and lose their friendships just because they disagree with a particular doctrine, so many people won't do that even then. Just as there are still plenty of Catholics who don't forgive the Jews for killing Christ, even though the Vatican officially forgave them.

The rest of your post is literally just repeating yourself ad nauseum. More claims without evidence. Yawn. Try saying Semitic a few more times, maybe it'll really stick then!

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Other then Jewish holy books making up half the King James Bible.

I think you should look at what the Vatican-Roman "Catholics" are doing as a group to the United States before you act so magnanimous toward them. There are plenty of Protestant Christian groups that would be happy being left alone and staying white if not for traitors and heretics (Vatican) that want to brown this country out.

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Those religious leaders assume that too when they make statements about accepting immigrants and a borderless world as being the duty of Cuckstians. Considering the cultists under those leaders have not rallied around anti-popes and other alternative leaders, it is reasonable to assume that there is no majority dissent over such ideas.

Cuckstians worship the mortal Semite Jesus as a god.


Semitic holy texts make up the entire Bible, any edition.

good thing i implied literally none of that and won't ever do so. you just proved my point.

i obviously have my own opinions, but there's no point in me posting them, because a) someone already did and b) i'm just yet another user that will get shit on for whatever those opinions are. Your images are pure faggotry and so are you for trying to imply what they say is ever what I said. My only point is that this thread is fucking chaotic madness that, aside from OP sharing some news of the pope's poz level, isn't productive. It's just everyone at each others' throats.

This post was great, because I can summarize it by saying every single claim you made about Christianity here is false. And since you provided exactly zero arguments, I don't have to provide any counter-arguments. Thanks, that's very considerate of you! I love shills, they're so entertaining.


For that claim to be possible, you would have to demonstrate how it's possible for souls to have race, which you still have not done. I'm waiting.

You can repeat your lies a million times, but not a single person who understands the Christian belief from a Christian's perspective (which is the only perspective that matters when it comes to what a person's beliefs are) will ever agree with you. Just like SJWs can claim that people are "sexist" a million times, it doesn't make it true if that person doesn't actually have sexist beliefs. But SJWs don't care; just like you, they'll keep on repeating it as if they think somebody's going to be convinced some day. Sad.

You sound exactly like the radfems that literally want to #KillAllMen. Meanwhile, the less retarded feminists fight more realistic battles like pushing false statistics about the wage gap, while the radfems insist that those traitors are just giving in to the ebil Capitalist Patriarchy by even accepting the concept of wage at all! Ideology is a disease that rots the mind until there's nothing left inside, whether it's far-left ideology or far-right idelogy or libertarian ideology or whatever it might be. Ideology must die.

The fact that their claim on being chosen comes from the Talmud, but the Talmud contradicts the Old Testament, and the Old Testament says anybody who adds words to this (besides the Messiah) will go to hell, which means Jews are knowingly betraying God and refusing to follow the Old Testament. They only pretend to do so outwardly in order to fool Christians into thinking they're our greatest ally.


And not a single argument was found that day.

Man… I'm starting to think you're an anti-christian shill. If so, I'm pretty impressed.

It doesn't matter, since all of those groups claim to be Christian, and you're attacking anyone who claims to be Christian (and even one here who claims not to be), and therefore you're attacking the majority of Holla Forums.

False. Nothing is proveable about the outside world, this is simply a logical fact. I'll keep repeating it as many times as you make me repeat it. You don't have an argument against it because no such argument can logically exist. The best you can say is that you have enough evidence to make it a 99.999999999% chance of being true, but that's still not an actual proof. I'm sorry that your liberal arts degree didn't include any logic or (real) philosophy.

Why would I provide justification for something I don't advocate? Shill harder moishe, you're not earning your pay!

Again, feel free to ever link any of these (((academic))) sources whatsoever so I can demonstrate why it's wrong. I'm waiting.

We already know your personal belief system which you can't prove anymore than I can prove mine, so why do you keep repeating it?

Same goes for you. The difference is, you're the one that made claims, I only made counter-claims. Therefore the burden of proof is on you, buddy. Good luck.

Yeah, and toward Cultural Marxism… yay, your shill bosses will be so pleased to hear it!

[citation needed]

Well then, I guess all of Europe was built on a lie, and there's no point defending our ancestors since they're horrible people just like the Marxists said they are. Maybe we deserve to die after all! You've convinced me, moishe, I'm gonna go down to my local mosque and convert ASAP!

Except for the fact that every single major denomination supports flooding Europe with rapefugees. No Christcucks have been able to refute this because it is a fact. Every single one. And most of then send money to third world so Africans can overpopulate and so on.

Christians are our enemies, as much as the muslims or jews are. The three of them are peas in the same pod.

Europe was built on Greek philosophy and European genes. Christianity only served as a vessel to carry the Greeks. Everything good in Christianity comes from the pagan elements that it carried on and the Greek philosophy that they based all of their theology on. Christianity in itself is irrelevant to Europe and can be discarded.

Just keep repeating it, and maybe someone will think it's true.

The truth is of course that christcuck threads are like 1 out of 20 threads on Holla Forums.

And in pretty much every other thread when christcucks come bumbling in to redtext their Jewish prophets ramblings, they are quickly told to btfo back to /christian/.

I estimate perhaps 5-10% of Holla Forums are christians. With a substantial majority of these being lukewarm people who don't care much.

The Deus Vult maniacs… by recognizing their recurring syntactical idiosyncrasies, sentence structures, arguments and filenames…. I'd say they are 5 guys tops.

I'm not a Catholic, I'm just clarifying misrepresentations of what kind of power the Pope has and doesn't have. But note that the most Catholic countries are in South America, and they're not the ones pushing mass migration into their own countries. This isn't a Christian problem or a Catholic problem, it's a white problem. We suffer from pathological altruism in a way that no other race ever will because they're too selfish by nature.


Doesn't matter, nobody has to agree, and they're fully aware that they don't. Idiots like you who seem to have formed your idea of Christianity based on South Park don't seem to realize that Christians within the same denomination disagree with each other about how to interpret the Bible and how to live a good Christian life all the time. It's not some kind of crazy dogmatic cult where nobody thinks for themselves like Islam. There's a few exceptions here and there in terms of Protestant denominations, and obviously Mormonism if you really want to stretch the definition of Christian.

Nope, they simply don't care if their leaders disagree with them. I've disagreed a great deal with my president for the past 7 years, and yet I haven't moved to a different country, and my president's opinions actually do affect me, wheras a religious leader's opinions don't affect me at all.

Not really, and not the same thing as a god-king at all, but it's pointless for me to get into it because you don't actually care anyway, you just want to find whatever avenue you can to attack, but it's not working buddy, and it never will.


Interesting claim, but why haven't you provided an argument for it?


Haha that's practically word-for-word what a dozen other shills have copy-pasted from their shill manual. And it's still just as wrong as ever, since those are just the opinions of church leaders, which have no effect on doctrine, and therefore the actual members of those religions don't have to agree, it's just peoples' opinions.

Good luck with that buddy, you're gonna need it.


Wrong, it significantly improved upon it.


That's because this is a politics board, dumbass. You genuinely think anybody here is stupid enough to fall for such fallacious argumentation, don't you? That's really sad.

Yeah, by shills like you. Except when it's one of you shills pretending to be a Christian to D&C against everyone else. You're just too transparent.

How embarassing.

I'm simply repeating the truths which have already caused your cults to lose the interest of Europeans. It's working every day as more and more of our race turn away from foreign influence.

Except for the part where it is a crazy dogmatic cult requiring adherents to listen and believe about the divinity of a Semitic communist and the primacy of a Semitic deity over all other deities. Remember, there's no proof for any of those ideas. Or would you like to finally take a stab at proving that Jesus was anything more than a mortal Semite and the god of Abraham is anything more than a racial deity created by Semites?

You lack reading comprehension skills. I did not say anything about moral relativism. I stated the fact that normal people base their moral framework upon societal norms, which is simple fact. That is why what people consider moral today is different from 100 years ago and both if those from 200 years ago and so on. Even within Christianity you can see this. So in effect, morality is relative in some sense on a certain level. Not that there is not an absolute morality, but people do not know what this absolute morality is and instead rely on social cues to tell then how to behave.

White people have an overdeveloped sense for social norms. They are deathly afraid of being seen as "bad people." Today, this means they are afraid of being racist or sexist it whatever. It doesn't have anything to do with altruism, and whites were never known as having pathological altruism before the middle of the 20th century.

My argument is this: You either lie or don't know your own (supposed) religion. You say things like: "The fact that their claim on being chosen comes from the Talmud, but the Talmud contradicts the Old Testament"

When it's one of the first thing the Jew god says in the Old Testament that Jews are his chosen master-race.

Deuteronomy 7:6 For thou art an holy people unto the Lord thy God: the Lord thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.

Also, this promise, by the supposed creator of the universe, the most powerful and honest being in existence, is never revoked anywhere in the whole Jewbook. He promises them lots of pain and suffering all over, true, but never does he negate the promise.

So, that's my argument. You lie about christianity. So because I assume that real christcucks won't intentionally do things to make their own dogma appear moronic and untrue, I assume you are some sort of strange shill.

Prove, or I'd even accept some slight evidence pointing to, that Holla Forums is a majority christian board.

I'll even give a strong indication on why it is not, something everyone can understand. Holla Forums is a meme factory with great reach in our society. You'll see grandmas posting pepes and kids in the playground saying "hitler did nothing wrong."

But the christcuck memes have NO reach outside of Holla Forums. Try asking anyone what a christ-chan is… or what deus vult means. You'll get no response.

Obviously this is because the few, unfunny, uncreative deus vults are not the majority part of the memetic creative base of Holla Forums

It just stands to reason. But I know you can't into that.

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Christcucks are utter garbage. (video related is a Christcuck from Brazil who's against abortion despite the fact shitskin subhumans shit out 7 niglets and then we are made to sustain them with gibs)

Even a jew is more on our side

And Henry Kissinger is fucking right and spot on. Even though his other quote about using military men as pawns is bad, he is spot on this turd world thing.

If you believe making it less coherent is an improvement.

What they believe does not matter. The only thing that matters is what they do. They willingly and knowingly give money to organizations that contribute to the destruction of Europe. They are not simply speaking on the issue. Churches are housing and feeding these rapefugees. Their charity goes to providing for them and facilitating their invasion. Christians are the enemy, and when nationalists win, Christians will be purged.

Into Cultural Marxism. Which is actual foreign influence. Dumbass.

Nope. Here, I'll throw you a bone and pretend that you're not a shill. Go ahead and watch vid related. I don't care what religion you follow or don't follow, but at least educate yourself on what Christians actually believe and why they believe it. Otherwise your shilling will never seem authentic to anyone.


That's true, which is why we need a culture that maintains true morality instead of pushing false morality like our current culture does. The issue is basically Leftists thoroughly shamed church leaders completely out of the culture business and thus they cornered the market on all things cultural. We're starting to see that turning around now in a grassroots way, represented by the rise of right-wing Christian politicians, like Trump who has said that he wants to bring back Christianity's influence and defend it against persecution. I think even if he loses the election, we're going to see a lot more woke people start to really get active in changing culture and taking it back from the Left. It would just be nice if the right-wing atheists & pagans could work with us on that project rather than against us like these shills would prefer.

I disagree, whites have always been less selfish than all other races. Also, don't confuse altruism with pathological altruism. Pathological means harmful, so by definition non-pathological altruism is a good thing.


Nope. The Old Testament states that the Hebrew people (not Jews, which didn't exist yet, but of course you don't know what that word actually means in the Bible) were chosen by God to be messengers that will bring salvation to all of humanity. There is nothing there about being a master race that's superior to everyone else, nor about being the only ones who will be saved, both of which are things that Jews believe because it says so in their Talmud. That Deuteronomy quote doesn't mean "above" as in a master race, but rather that it was their task to become moral people in order to serve as examples for the rest of the world to follow suit. But if you bother to read the rest of the book instead of out-of-context quotes you got from some pagan youtube channel or whatever, then you'd realize that they constantly failed to achieve that higher moral standard and kept resorting to Satan-worship and degeneracy. This is why Jesus told them that God has cancelled their role as the chosen people. At that point they had served their purpose anyway, in that Israel was the surrogate mother that birthed Christ (and died during childbirth), who then created Christianity which is the vehicle by which mankind will be saved, just as God promised in the Old Testament.

Ironic. Maybe you should try actually listening to Christian thoughts about our own religion…

That's because Christianity already has its own memes that are far stronger than any chan meme. Every person on Earth knows who Jesus Christ is.

Nobody claimed otherwise. Why do you keep attacking these poor "deus vults", whoever they're supposed to be, who don't even seem to be participating in this argument? And then somehow extending your attacks on them to apply to all Christians with no logical connection.


Oh look, another shill appears to repeat the same garbage with no argument. And I agree with Kissinger, yet I'm still a Christian, and I still don't support abortion. Sterilization, folks, it works wonders.


Not an argument.


I agree, that's why the fact that so many of them are voting for Trump proves you wrong.

And thus reducing the rapefugee crime rate by doing so.

Well, the end times prophecies state that near the end Christians will be heavily persecuted again just like in the beginning, right before the holy flame burns all you sinners alive, so I don't doubt that you're right, and I also don't fear you and never will. No true Christian will ever submit to you sad losers who wish to LARP as ISIS.

Unlike Cuckstianity which doesn't have a foreign deity, foreign savior, and foreign tradition. Oh wait, Cuckstianity is foreign to Europe.

You're going to have to summarize that video, or the point it makes, in your own words. I'm not wasting an hour listening to nonsense from cucks. Cuckstianity requires absolute faith in unproven revisions to history and reality based solely on the argument that a Semite said he was god. It is internally consistent, but externally invalid. That makes it a crazy dogmatic cult grounded in fantasy rather than reality. Otherwise, you'd be able to prove that Jesus was more than a mortal Semite and the god of Abraham is more than a Semitic construct.

Nah, I refuse to believe anyone can be this moronic. Even christcucks aren't as dumb as this. Just brushing it all off with the old "we wuz rabbis n shit."

And I just saw that in the other post (which I'll admit I skimmed,) your proof for christcuck dominance on Holla Forums was polls. How… Jewish. Polls.

I don't even…

Nah, you're a shill if I ever saw one. But why would you be here, pretending to be a christcuck to shill against christcucks? To shill against christians is to shill against Jews, so that's a paradox. You know you don't have to do that here? It's ok to not like Jews and their cucks here.

Well, whether you're a anti-christian shill or just insane… Your words are there for all to read, I can't see it would serve any purpose to interact with you any further. You can have the last word, I'm just dumbfounded and awestruck.

If by some slight chance you are not a shill or mentally ill… you just might be the dumbest person I've ever talked to on an imageboard.

The diety and savior is "foreign" in the sense that it's divine, sure. The tradition was formed in the Roman Empire during the first few centuries AD, and during this period they removed all the Jewish stuff like circumcision and the like, sticking only to God's word for their traditions. In fact, Jesus directly states that it's folly to allow your religious traditions to be determined by Man rather than God. I respect that you don't believe in God/Jesus, but you don't seem to respect the fact that we do believe, and therefore you are simply strawmanning when you claim that we worship a foreign or Semitic deity. You only worship something if you want to, there's no way to be "fooled" into worshipping something by accident. Only Satan believes he can trick people in to worshipping him.

Thanks for proving that you're only here to get paid by the post and not to argue in good faith. Now all of your further posts will be ignored by any rational person since you admitted to not wanting to learn anything about the thing you criticize. Didn't your ancestors ever tell you not to have an opinion on something you know nothing about?


You're hallucinating, you should go see a doctor ASAP.

I'm just here to trick the shills into wasting their time on this dead end thread instead of shilling somewhere where it would be more effective. It's working quite well!

Yep, shills always leave when there's not enough people in the thread for it to be worthwhile anymore.

Cute, but still not an argument, and also incredibly unoriginal.

But it's totally logical to then take a man's word on his claim that he is god. If you listen and believe, it's right, but if you approach it objectively there is no evidence to support such a claim. If the claim cannot be supported, it must be assumed that Jesus was nothing more than a mortal Semite. You feel like your religion is not foreign, but the facts don't support that feeling.

Thanks for proving that you never intended to make a point and simply embedded a long video so you could claim victory for a point you never made knowing that no one would watch it. I studied Cuckstianity entirely too much as I spent a decade in Catholic private schools, so I'll have to assume I know far more about it than you since you refuse to make your own arguments about the religion.

Provide some evidence to substantiate your claim.

They do identity shifts like this constantly. When it is convenient for a group to be Christian, they are Christian. When it's not, they're not. They could care less about their duplicity on this topic.

It's similar to something Jews do, where they are part of the white majority when it is convenient for them, and a non-white oppressed minority when it is not.

Every method used by Cuckstians to shill for their treachery is similar to something Jews do, after all, the argumentative style of Semites is well documented. It just goes to show that Cuckstianity is rooted in Semitic ideology.

He proved that he's God by coming back from the dead, as confirmed by numerous eyewitnesses, and by fulfilling all the prophecies, as well as making his own prophecies that came true. But you would know this, if you'd ever bothered to listen to Christians explain their views instead of only listening to anti-Christians. Having an opinion on that which you know nothing and wish to know nothing, proves you to be a fool. And not just a fool, but the worst kind of fool: a fool by choice.

Well there's your problem.

You don't have to assume, you just want to because it feels good.

There were numerous polls done, but I didn't save the images. However, anybody who's not a newfag or shill would know about this.

There's no duplicity, it's just the distinction between people who claim to be Christian and people who we personally view as following the Bible correctly. Since you attack all people who claim to be Christian, then it is therefore logical to defend on that basis. But you would know this, if you weren't retarded.

Nope, blatantly unlike that at all.

You disparage Catholics in the same post as you claim that they are part of your majority. So which is it? They are either Cuckstians or not, you can't have it both ways.

All of which is contained in what, the collection of Semitic holy texts written decades to centuries after those supposed events? If we are taking holy texts to be fact, why exactly is Cuckstianity correct and Islam not? Or Judaism? They have texts and faith which support their position, but you say they are wrong for no other reason than you listen to and believe a different Semite. Every religion has accounts of miraculous events and prophecies, so what makes Cuckstianity any different from the rest? The answer of course is nothing, but blind faith allows you to say that the things your religion claims happened are accurate, but none of the claims of other religions are legitimate.

I can make a prophecy too, if it comes true does that mean you have to worship me as the god of all things? I have a prophetic vision that you will post a reply in this thread after this post. Let's behold my godlike power.

I already addressed why that's not the same thing in the very post you're pretending to reply to. Also, I wasn't trying to disparage Catholics, I'm simply saying that since I'm not Catholic, then I don't care whether or not you agree with Catholic theology, because I don't either. I gave you a video on Orthodoxy but you elected to remain ignorant by choice.

Not really.

Because the religion wasn't started by texts, it was started by Jesus, who passed down the traditions of the church to his disciples, who then passed it on to their disciples, etc. in a very efficient and robust system of passing down traditions accurately across generations. This church then compiled the various important writings into the Bible through an Ecumenical Council, which consisted of many representatives from all over the Christian world working for decades until they arrived at a unanimous consensus. All doctrines of the Orthodox church have been decided in this way, and it continues to this day to accurately pass down the traditions across generations straight down from the teachings of Jesus to his disciples.

Regardless, I'm not asking you to believe it, I just want you to stop lying and generalizing about what Christians believe and why we believe it. The only people here who are proslytizing are the atheists & pagans who just can't seem to handle the concept that some people choose to believe in the God of the Bible, and since we believe he's divine, we therefore don't believe he's a Semitic invention or that Jesus was in any way affected by Jewish genes just because God chose an Israelite woman to give him physical form. If you can't respect what I believe without believing it yourself, then the problem here lies with you and only you, as I don't disrespect atheists or pagans, or indeed Catholics or Protestants. I only disrespect (and, actually, despise) Jews and Muslims because they worship Satan. So unless you worship Loki and seek to live your life by his example or something, then I don't have a problem with your beliefs. If you can be moral while being atheist or pagan, then it's no skin off my back. I happen to believe that you won't achieve eternal life that way, but it's not like I wish that fate upon you, it's just like if people have different opinions about what a healthy diet would be. In that sense, a religion (or secular belief system) is like a spiritual diet, which affects your spiritual health. We can disagree about how to achieve spiritual health without hating each other.

Oh, and I also hate Mormons and Zionist Protestants. And probably some others that are slipping my mind atm but you get the point.

Which is of course how every ancient religion began.

I've stated nothing but facts that are known to be true. Everything I have said is backed by either historical record or the statements of Cuckstian leaders.

I'll restate it all simply. Jesus was a mortal Semite and nothing more, but Cuckstians believe otherwise with no evidence. The god of Abraham is a construct of Semites, but Cuckstians believe otherwise with no evidence. One cannot be a racially aware traditionalist and worship a foreigner and/or a foreign deity. Those that are influenced by foreign traditions are race traitors. Therefore, all Cuckstians are race traitors.

Oh, I forgot to mention that Semitic Christians are not race traitors as it is a Semitic religion, though they are members of an enemy race.

Just because somebody claimed it to you doesn't mean it's true.

But thank you, your continued copy-pasting from your shill manual instead of actually responding to my post in good faith proves beyond all doubt that you're a shill, not that you refusing to watch that video didn't already prove it. Your shilling now holds no possible power in this thread since anybody with a brain who isn't a newfag can now see it for themselves. Time to be filtered & reported.

I was wondering when you would break. I'm surprised you didn't break out the reddit emoticon though.

Europe has always been multicultural society. Most europeans are at least partially descendants of near-eastern farmers.

Genetically "native" Europeans are a minority - If you don't carry Nordic Haplogorup I1a and Finno-Baltic N2a then you're literally a sandnigger immigrant.

Fuck off Pajeet. Just because you have to be a shitskin doesn't mean that white people don't exist.

Or are you Chaim?

The current pope reminds me op pope Borgia to be honest

Butthurt sandnigger-mutt

Butthurt sandnigger-mutt

If you're not finno-baltic or nordic, you're literally an immigrant.

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