It's Official: Men are Creepy

That is the dumbest statement I've read in weeks.

Oh, the clam is kinda cute.

In a mixed-race mongrel sort of way.

> linkedin.com/in/sara-koehnke-5112ab34

Oh, well, that explains it, hah.

It's an aggregation of women's opinions. What were you expecting?

are you spooked yet

So, where was I…. Oh, right, the first article linked.

> twitter.com/LaurenOyler
Oh boy…

Hah, Jesus Fucking Christ.

> While the study didn't differentiate between what men found creepy and what women found creepy, "women were more likely to think that the person had some sort of sexual interest in them," McAndrew says.
HAH.

This. A masculine alpha male can do the same thing a "creep" does and women will be all over the alpha.

More propaganda out of the Lugenacademia

Yep, he turns into 'adorable' if he's a creepy piece of shit with a good chin and hair.

If he's an aggressive creep that's decent looking then he's just plain sexy.

This is how to logically think about it and you have a point.

But this is what the msm wants to tell us. And soon it will be any man trying to court is creepy. Just wait for the newspeak to start creeping in no pun intended

I've heard young women irl describe any man they don't want to date as "creepy" and it has nothing to do with them being in harms way.

These articles are nothing but man-hating rah rah feminist bullshit.

The truth is the spookiest

How much money was spent on that retarded "study"? An average retard could have come to the exact same conclusion by analysing his own social encounters for less than a month.

wow, feminist academia bringing the breakthrough discoveries

Yawn. The literal opposite has been shown. Additionally creepiness is purely an opinion and is based in zero objective facts.

What, and landwhales obsessed with twinks and gay twink sex aren't the same?
The female pedophiles that get a slap on the wrist after fucking a little boy also have some serious crazy eyes.

Oh btw, I think the writer for that one was a Jew too.

> linkedin.com/in/josh-hafner-579b5216
> usatoday.com/staff/10046646/josh-hafner/
> twitter.com/joshhafner?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author

it's like a nigger cargo cult

Last article

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> womenshealthmag.com/sex-and-love/guys-with-fish-are-more-attractive

I'm don't think women care.
I have a weak chin and I'm balding.
Women look at biceps and abs and chest to waist ratio.

No, women need to have their rights stripped and be subjugated to a proper patriarchy. A woman should not even be allowed to be alone with a man that she is not related by blood or married to.

wow I cannot wait until we can enslave these morons in the happening

> iflscience.com/editors-blog/study-suggests-women-are-all-bisexual-or-gay-almost-never-straight

Shoulders and traps more than biceps tbh.

Actually, they look at many different facets/traits, and what they are predisposed to base their judgments upon varies by ethnicity, upbringing, etc.

Basic evolutionary principle: Mate selection factors will almost-invariably fluctuate to some degree between populations.

Ie, just as an example, it might be found that Slavic sluts prefer strong chests and chins, whereas Celtic clams prefer good hair and strong arms, whereas Mediterranean maidens prefer certain eye orientations and generalized symmetry.

All arbitrarily chosen traits, mind you, but such a paradigm almost certainly exists - just as men vary considerably between cultures/ethnicities in what they focus upon.

Personally, I find cervine women the most attractive (I'm all about proportionality), yet I know others who prefer the junk in the trunk, or the big ol titties, etc etc.

We're just animals, and differing selective factors in our histories results in different mate selection priorities between populations.

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so its literally caveman tier, chungo got da biggest yum-yum me sucky sucky for yum-yum.

man, let me tell you ever since the feminists got ride of this whole chivalry and romance thing, it has become patently obvious how unevolved women are socially. they have been sheltered so long, I mean we all know that "men are pigs" (and sure a lot of them are) when it comes to reproductive tastes, but holy shit this while extra level of reductive nihilism is just sickening

That's pretty much what he said, although it should definitely be more emphasized that women are around men that they trust to prevent shit like being found in a ditch after being raped because she thought it was her right as a woman to walk late at night by herself.

I fucking hate when women do stupid shit like that just for "muh feminism muh stronk woman I can do whatever I want" and then they get mugged and raped by a pack of niggers at night because young women are the easiest targets next to children and the elderly. Probably worse since they often dress like sluts so their body attracts even more attention to themselves.

My parents taught my sister to never walk late at night by herself without me or her father around to walk her home, and she's already been put in situations where she has to decline going out with friends because they aren't properly chaperoned home.

I'm just shocked parents are letting their young daughters go out by themselves at night and don't even give a fuck. God please let feminism rot and die.

Nothing wrong with checking out a little ass.

She looks creepy

sage

It's almost like giving them control over reproduction was a mistake…

How surprising.

Most women also consider themselves an 8/10 or above, and most men a 4/10 or less.

Most women are deluded fucktards.

okay mohammed

okay Schlomo Goldstein

don't you have a cousin to rape?

lol this, I know so many chubby fat slob women who think they are hot shit

this

that creepy feeling women feel is her genes saying "this guy is a beta fag, run"

the creepiness generally being induced by said creep trying to act confident but his body language or voice tone betraying insecurity or something undesirable

get alpha son

contemporary science is a braindead religious cult with a thin veneer of rationality. everything must be proven by SCIENCE!!1 or it is invalid, no matter how obvious or commonsensical it is. In fact, the more obvious and commonsensical, the more distrustful we should be of it (according to SCIENCE!!1), and the more it needs to be STUDIED!!1

you can thank the enlightenment and braindead progressive and marxist morons for that – pro tip, they run shit, especially the university departments producing SCIENCE!!1 and the government agencies and foundations funding it

note that this superstitious cult believes that evolution stops at the neck and that biological sex don't real; there is nothing empirical, rational or evidence-based about them.

pic related, prophet of the braindead religious cult of SCIENCE!!1

That's true. Fat girls are constantly posting angled and shopped pictures of themselves online for their friends to flock to and compliment, whereas fat guys will gladly put up a picture of themselves shirtless and drunk and laugh when their mates call them an eyesore.

The arrogance of fat women, and the emotional (attention seeking) response when called out on her flaws makes it next to impossible to talk them around without committing a ton of time to it.

Have you ever seen the preparation a woman will do about a guy she likes? That shit is creepy as fuck.

You seem to confuse science with science "fans".
Science in itself is just a method.

The moment vice shows an interest in it, you know it's not worthy of your time.

pic says "I wish I was special".

i don't know about that. i'm of the opinion that looks are just a foot in the door, and that everything after that is under scrutiny. trust me, a lot can cause a girl not to feel it anymore and not all of those things are obvious - even to her.

i've been told that i'm an around an 8/10 in looks, but i struggle to get girls because of how much of an awkward, creepy guy i am.

Silly kike, inbreeding is for sandniggers and Ashkenazi.

/ugly/fag here. I'd rate myself about 3/10. Tbh I don't really give a fuck about these kinds of studies because it basically just confirms what I already know about women.

If you've been ugly for a this long you know they don't want you and you know any kind of rmonace is futile. Its kind of neat, really, having nothing to do with women. Saves me a lot of drama and as a uglyfag I get to see what a bunch of bitches most girls are up close. Lots of free time too, so I have time to read and browse political debate websites. The world doesn't give a shit about you, especially if you're a shitty looking guy like me, and I'm fine with that

Also tried MGTOW for a while but eventually gave up because I find that they hate women too much.I'm a generally kind guy to others and I will always help so hating or bitterness isn't really my thing.

Well duh. I find women that I deem unfit for mating with creepy when they hit on me.

Was this supposed to show something?

Stop your man-splaining and slutshaming at once! It is not your place to tell a woman who she can hang out with even if he is a known serial murder rapist!

In other words, if you FEEL creepy, then you are! Women don't FEEL creepy, so therefore they can't be! Go ahead and leave your children with them, it'll be fine… they totally won't molest them or anything, because they don't FEEL creepy! That's definitely how reality works, yep.

archive and webms are your friend, that all looks like clickbait, including the description of the 'study'

When women wear yoga pants that show their ass I get where I can look at it and blatantly eyeball them. Even if they are talking to friends of mine. Being very masculine, not a one has acted put-off or creeped out.

I moved to a new town where women don't dress like that, it's a much nicer place. Or maybe the fad is over, I don't know.

Well, fuck.

Yeah. Women like the one in the OP's video are acting from their biology to draw male attention. If she says I'm not doing it for men or I dress for myself, then she's showing off her rationalization hamster.

Frankly, the study in the OP would be more impressive if actually controlled for male sex appeal. How many of the creeps were Chris Hemsworth brand sexy men? Or even just a little above average in sex appeal?

That's because men are programmed to seek out women instead of vice-versa. There is nothing suprising about this.

Creep is just a man who is in a woman's vicinity but is not gratifying her. This is why our ancestors expected women to be home bodies, if they're let to run free they'll end up wanting to ban men from public spaces because of their feelings.

You're a good guy user. You don't get pity from me, but I respect you.

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Meh, what are you going to about it, woman? Hit me for watching you? Who cares what women think, even ugly guys can do some simple stuff and suddenly he's the greatest guy ever. Women are just plain stupid and emotionally ridden and their allegations is nothing to care about.

What they don't get is, they can't do anything about us, and that's their constant battle they have. Knowing full well, men if they want and choose to, can do exactly whatever they would want with a woman. The thing is, they are delusional enough to not really think about it, until they are confronted with it when a man just decides to check her out and hit on her.

She's completely living on that man's terms. If the man doesn't take too kind to the rejection, she might get beaten to death or raped (unless it's a white man of course),

I am the same way, its just because you are socially insecure probably because you aren't a normalfag and don't immediately imitate the socially programmed cues in a perfect fashion like a normie (because you have doubts,etc.) also you were probably over sheltered by your parents and the public schools gaslit your identity so hard you have next to no self confidence. that is how I am, I can either be quiet and shy or I can be 1488 race warrior murderface adrenaline junkie normies don't connect to either so you are fucked

you will get a woman one day, just lift a lot and get money and you can control her, don't let her turn you betafag. I know a lot of uglyfags who can score. glad you aren't a woman hater though, good luck user.

P.S.
read lothrop stoddard's revolt against civilization its really good

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Is that a feminist thread?

You described yourself as a beta, not an alpha. The whole point is that you must exhibit alpha tendencies.

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the whole meme of pretending the social dynamic of canines is applicable to self-conscious and creative humanoids is retarded. the alpha beta dynamic is a giant simplification of something more complex and its a waste of time and a sign of stupidity to pretend someone can be the alpha male in every single social interaction. doubting is a part of being conscious, the sexual failure of a lot of young men has more to do with the social environment of today rather than some gross simplification of canine social dynamics

We aren't created equal. Some men are more attractive to the bulk of women than others.

So who is going to address the elephant in the room?

When they say "men", do you think they're talking about middle class European men? Or Pajet and Tyrone who are constantly staring at their asses and are groping them in crowded areas?

heh le opinion dismissed

Or East Asian men.

And there's how actually attractive the recorded men are. You'd be surprised how much a man who's above the bulk in attraction can get away with that a lesser man couldn't.

What the fuck is going on?
I don't want to lose my virginity to some whore.

I don't know, user. I think that the modest girls don't respond well to being treated like a whore.

You can't treat them the same way you treat the sluts, aka direct flirting. Try going slow as fug and being semi-nice to them.

no shit nobody needs to understand wolf pack behavior to know that

Be warned how much ''niceness' overlaps with beta supplication. Being a screaming cock doesn't have to be your way, but being some Good Housekeeping Hugh Jackman style mangina isn't going to rope women who are not just attractive, but seriously fertile.

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I was just the other night propositioned to join a total babe and her friend for a threesome but I turned them down because muh degeneracy and muh traditional values. I can't seem to get average looking but assuredly less slutty women to even give me the time of day but when I'm not even trying appearently my cock is a complete babe-magnet.

What a world we live in where shitposters on anime message boards can catch the eye of beautiful promiscuous women but can't find a frumpy plain Jane to have 2.5 kids with.

I was told the Kali Yuga would be bad but nobody said it would be weird.

I dunno what the reason is. Do slutty girls have lower standards?
Whenever I spill my spaghetti talking to a whorish girl she usually giggles and keeps talking, if I do it with a plain Jane she looks at me like I just killed her mother.

It's more that they're desensitized to the concept of mate selection, and you make their maternal instincts kick in. They don't exactly want to keep you as a man, but your clumsiness makes them want to take care of you and get their rocks off at the same time. Basically they see you as a non-threatening fling plus a dopamine rush from doting on a man-babby.

Patriarchy doesn't mean "women obeying men or their fathers" or something that you learned on Tumblr. It's about a nation knowing who are its fathers, so that that the patriots know whom to look up to.

White women are participating in the sex strike against White Genocide and they've accurately stereotyped white men as being sick, self-hating, traitors. This is how it sounds when you force them to talk about it.

Why would any white person want to be attached to an anti-white? Yet, that is what is expected of most white women… That they marry a white anti-white man!

It's a white women sex strike against White Genocide (the forced disappearance of the white GENOtype via massive third-world immigrations and subsequent "assimilation" of all those non-whites).

#WWSSAWhiteGenocide

See, in western society we used to have this great thing where women were both respected and being virtous in the conservative sense was promoted.

Going the utterly autistic way of islam where you outright ban everything that you don't like for whatever reason does objectively hinder societal advance.

E.g the art of charm and cleverness, both a cerebral and social skill was evolutionary selected for along with the obvious power & money trait. You hardly ever see these traits in people from muslim cultures.

Stuff like this is what made the west what it is, or was. Completely banning women from the social sphere and literally hiding them away in clothing surpresses the development of social intelligence, competition and so much more.

Women are only creeped out by sexually undesirable men

Check out this video.

She goes from "ew…no..gross" to basically fingerbanging herself in ten seconds once she sees the guy's giant cock.

TL;DR; all women are vain whores. There are no "good girls"

This

FUCK OFF MGTOW KIKE

from one end of the horseshoe to the other

Wow pretty biased study. It's sad how hard the media and news work to polarize genders like they're seperate fucking species just to discourage the white nuclear family. If you are a born either (a) wymyn or (b) creepy then you should assume 99.99% of your own gender to be stupid and 100% of the opposite gender to be stupid, based only on the fact you are the 0.01% of your own, searching for (your) special 0.01%. This applies to everyone. They're looking for you too, believe it or not.
Okay Anita Sharkeisha, nice to know you're still here.

Dude nice all-fields sage can you upvote my sage too? My mod friend has reddit gold.

almost.

Men are brains with dicks, but women are just really ingrown vaginas with similar but different phsychopsyiological brains. The term 'seperate but equal' has never had so much application. Not that we can't be equals of course.

I dont want to live in this world.

I just want to die.

That video is fucking hot…holy shit….

I'm not MGTOW and I'm not a kike. I'm a realist.

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What that shiver is the woman's natural response to someone she does not see as evolutionarily healthy. You could be a mass murder but handsome and healthy, see will follow to her own grave. How do you think Ted Bundy tallied over 30 murders?

this

it's pure coincidence that western population started plummeting after the introduction of the pill, followed by the sexual revolution and no-fault divorce.

The study only says that of all creeps men make up the majority which is to be expected.
Creepyness also includes a certain threat, women are almost never threatening even they would behave in the same way.
Furthermore men have general tendency to on the left and right side of the bellcurve (see autism, intelligence etc.). In that sense creepyness is a certain "off the road" behaviour, which includes various factors and it is not surprising at all that men tend to "score" higher on those ergo resulting being the majority of creeps + general perception.

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It's said that industrial societies = plummeting birth rates, but that's too simplistic.
My paternal grandfather was one of FOURTEEN kids. His wife was one of seven. My parents were both one of three, and most people around that point were having 3 or so kids. THEN after that the pill was introduced. After that point, everything you stated happened.

Furthermore, the middle class was made to worry about a whole lot of things, people became more selfish, women entered the workforce and started having careers instead of children.

It's not industrial society. It's the (((interest groups))) that have promoted the destruction of the nuclear family, hookup culture, feminism, etc. Those particular changes can only exist within an industrial society, but they're not intrinsic to it.

Also, see pic related.

Never ever fails

Not being a white knight who pretends women are pure angels beyond the base desires of men=/=Being a MGTOW

Let me guess you pretend attractive and seriously fertile women by large are drawn to soft, sensitive, nice guys who give away cuddles?

4/8

its okay user i know how you feel

Men aren't creepy, but neckbeards who take "creepshots" are.

There was a study years ago of people judging traits of people in photographs which were basically nothing more than value neutral headshots.

Among the sample of people in the photographs there were violent felons. It was found that people rated the violent felons as less trustworthy based just on being able to look at their faces.

The exception being that women rated convicted rapists as being especially trustworthy. Women see a guy like Ted Bundy and they determine him to be more trustworthy than any guy she judges as just a normal guy without any inherent bias.

Except women rate non-threatening behavior as threatening and threatening behavior as inherently superior and trustworthy. Women's expectations of behavior are not based on a baseline, median example of a human but an apex sexual predator and then hoping for the best that he's just superficially similar to a sexual predator but not one for real.

Women find men that are sexually unthreatening as "creepy". It has nothing to do with threat. The threat is one of inclusive fitness wherein if she spends to much time around unfit specimen she might wind up propagating with one of them, which is a far worse threat than being raped and getting a superior rape baby instead.

certainly no creepier than the shallow exhibitionists they photograph.

Indeed. Human male sex appeal for women who are feminine, attractive, and seriously fertile is rooted in signs of how he can dispatch predators and maintain his dominance. Women who are past their peak look for signs that he'd helpful as a provider of resources for them and/or their kids.

And there's the point of women dressing in ways that draw male attention more than if they dressed differently. The woman is drawing in males to be assessed for mating. See the baboon for a non-human primate example of this.

teenpornb.com/category/general/vr-porn-virtual-reality

Bullshit. Women have a certain perception, they might be wrong in the case of ted bundy but they inherently know which male to "choose", depending on certain behaviours.

Most likely they will choose the male with the most alpha tendencies or other males with beta supplier tendencies depending on her current situation.

The more violent your society is the more likely women choose other violent males as their mate since they are the ones that can provide her with security. So women choosing a fellon in murica isnt any surpirsing since they have the highest rates of fellons and are made up of psychopaths (perception, sociopathic/psychopathic bevhaviour pays off the most in USA).

So you dont really understand those studies, women like men that are able to protect them and if you put a regular cuck and a psychopath in a pit the psychopath will rip him into shreds.

What you see in western societies today is a rise of sociopathy/psychpathy if you want to "win", hence women choose males that are uncompromising and they hate betas.
That is to put it very blunt and superficial, because i m using a very general description.
You can also see those outliners in the rise of transgender women and "numales" since those males are not really capable of suiting the perception (usually those of higher intelligence) and act accordingly. Regular males (i really like the lingo here, which signals a certain tryhard emotional distance common in psychology which is a "fishbowl" of fucked up individuals or an imitation of this group) dont really realize it so you get a certain intelligence bracket.
Most likely the above average intelligence people you find in democrats or more specifically in SJW which is a democrat on alphabet induced heroine.

bakadesuyo.com/2012/06/are-dangerous-men-more-attractive-men/

They specifically rated rapists as especially trustworthy and other types of violent criminals as less trustworthy than non-criminals.

They may have found both the rapists and murderers as more sexy. Probably. That's irrelevant to my point. The objectively most creepy guys are viewed as the least creepy guys by females.

The rest of your post is either incomprehensible or full of platitudes which have zero informational content.

Wouldn't being "creepy" be a subjective opinion?
You know, like what they are so nobly "fighting" against???

Didn't the article mention the photos were changed or manipulated?

Replace creepy with unattractive.

So what do you fucking retard want to tell me?
You dont know how to interpret the study corretly, you could also use justin bieber and invoke the boygroup effect. Meaning that women like males more if they have a certain group dynamics effect, which means the more women like a particular male the more they want it too.
What you are saying is, or at least that is what i m interpreting here is that women like the raw "rapist" essence more than regular males. Which than contradicts your point you dumb motherfucker, because what you invoke her is the raw power, and it is no surprise that without any social context rapists and murderers score better than other males because they are not the ones you want to fuck with one by one.

YOu have to distinguish between standalone images and social context.
But since i had to point that out to your fucking retardation i guess you are not getting the point.

I'm referring to a different study done, referred by Satoshi Kanazawa that I can't find right now in which it was people looking at unmanipulated faces. Both men and women were rating the faces for trustworthiness and both rated violent criminals as less trustworthy looking. But women rated the rapists as high in apparent trustworthiness.

Which goes into the user's point about Ted Bundy. A guy who could walk onto a college campus and ask a random girl to escort him back to his car in an deserted parking lot. Basically every guy you know is more creepy than Ted Bundy according to the perceptions of women.

For the third time now murderers score worse than 'other males'. Only, exclusively rapists score better.

Ok, give a source on that. And then again what the fuck is your point?
Ted bundy was a murderer with a lot of charm, so what the fuck is your point again.

Women love drama, whether they admit it or not. there's a reason why watching scary movies with your girl is a guaranteed way to get laid. Fear -→drama —→excitement –→ pussy tingles

This guy looks pretty red pilled to me on several points, yet you have to put these studies in a context, and without a context this shit means nothing. I would agree on his basics,yet we are talking about basics, and that means these adpat to social, racial and cultural changes. There is nothing pure about that, which makes it a lot more complex.

Similar family here. My great-grandparents raised tons of healthy large kids while poor with almost no medicine. I'm beginning to think it's something like environment, cultural cues, or taxation that is doing it. I don't think the jewing was anything but financial by the 40s and 50s, but that is when my family all started to have much fewer and less healthy children.

Hell, I don't know, maybe the land just wasn't as fertile. But it wasn't feminism yet in my part of the world.

This is absolutely true. Forget the PUA shit, if you are really smart, just fucking wait till you are tired and slow and hit on girls. It's fucking magic because suddenly you are a normal guy. Turn off your brain, creepiness disappears.

I don't recall the study, but they measured face width vs. brow to lip length and it correlates with aggressiveness in men, and not women, and people can pick up on it. So if that is how you make a more masculine face, it may have all that shit covered.

"Oxytocin injected into the cerebrospinal fluid causes spontaneous erections."

That sounds really interesting to me.

There is nothing creepy about me, women love me and i have to do jackshit at all and they are still trying to get my attention, wether it be single mothers or cream of the crop.
I watched my best friend say (and he said it very silently) "you can get any girl you want". And that is what i noticed. I can stare at their tits and they will turn around and try to grab my attention.

You do know it's possible for words to take on slightly different meanings, right? You're right, it would be retarded to simplify human interaction down to dog hierarchy. However, that's assuming everyone does that.

Posturing makes you feel good doesn't it?

Somehow the last place in this world you would find someone like us. Like some power that would tie us together for all eternity, something that would always be recognized, something you cannot ignore. Something that steered your thinking, something that is so rare and yet so dominant and you would see it everytime, everyimte you formulate a thought you would see us in our archetype. And you would always know that we are the ones that shaped that archetpye and we were those characters in which shade you ate and grew. We were those that never die, the ones that are eternal.

Are you in favor of those perverted degenerates?

Nailed it. The same stereotypically creepy attitude, body language and actions performed by a "cute guy" will be considered hot.

Tfw I look like Netanyahu

nice strawman

Am I fucked?

I wonder who could be pushing this narrative

Nearly everyone has bags under their eyes because of our hectic, stressful society

It's this

You're an anti-white

I would see you hang

you look nothing at all like him, you autist

It's true.

People with charisma use Apple products.

Dubs of Are you me?

Exactly Also checked

no not really, but I'll ask you the same question since you are trying to make a point without having anything to say.

no not really

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Is that good?

uh idk do you want to look like him or not?

I'm more worried about looking good than looking like someone else.

It's scientifically proven that women are stupider, less creative, less intellectual, less rational, less fit for leadership, less fit for influential positions, less fit for good working positions, and weaker than men.

you look okay I guess, I'm not a fag but you don't seem weird looking. you should probably work out your upper body more and wear your hair longer since its curly IMO

Go be faggots somewhere else. It may be a shit thread, but at least it had a topic.

Thread's been dead.

then let it die, at least you remembered to sage finally

;^)

people on Holla Forums are way too shy to start new threads..

sometimes I wish I was chad, but then I see what its like to be chad and I am glad I don't fit in

Yeah, how long can you keep telling yourself that, man?

It's game over, man. the writing is on the wall! Trump can't save us now!

Its been official past 15 years, I get nervous standing around if say I am waiting for some one in a public place just because I am a man, I keep waiting for some woman to scream that was trying to rape her by just looking in her direction or accuse me of trying to steal her kids. fucking shit needs to stop.

No, I'm just saying both groups deserve eachother.

that pic

Either you're an ass-shattered woman or a fucking pussy

I think dealing with women is going to be easier when you realize they're basically retards most of the time.

We need something post-MGTOW. There's this guy: youtube.com/user/LifeAfterWomen
His position is more like a Buddhist one. idk if he's spoken on it, but women are trapped too. Everything is suffering, that kind of idea.

Imagine if your life centered around thinking about your body, and you couldn't stop thinking about your body, not even when you were doing other things, like using a computer, or watching TV, or eating a sandwich.

A woman's existence is only made good by her ignorance of the alternative (which is never an alternative for her. somehow her biology denies the her the state)…

What I'm saying is you can help form up what's next.

PUA were right in observing women have certain constant qualities, present in every single one.
MRA were right in observing that society screws men over as a matter of course. The more advanced here realized that women are natural manipulators.
Incel/TFL guys were right in observing that some guys just have no chance at all. Meanwhile, the implication drove so many to rage, because men know they've had a low hit rate (alphas think it's because of their personality or wit, God help them fuckers), and are outraged at the implication, that they'll never be alpha, no matter how hard they try
Herbavore men were right in realizing that it is possible to replace each aspect of a relationship with a woman with technology, and to have it be more pleasing altogether
MGTOW were quite right in recognizing that the more someone is identified with women, or women's goals, objectives, etc, the more one's existence becomes a kind of rounded-off thing, like a statue losing its eyes, its nose, and a bit of the ear. What remains is the basic man. No self, just bare function.
Beyond this, there seems to be the idea that mere individuation is inadequate. Throwing oneself at one's job is stupid. Nobody really likes you there. Time and time again I see lonesome old men utterly arrogant, and unable to see that their self was replaced by a wrench.

Individuation therefore is as bad as gynocentrism. One is molded by some blind thing.

But herein lies the huge leap.

To go beyond, one must ditch atheism.

Atheism offers nothing but pleasure-seeking or pleasure management…

And then religion, as atheism, preaches the doctrine of enslavement back into those systems of delusion.

And then there's the bit that Buddhism is shown guilty of it as well. They all are.

To serve one's own penis, to serve some vagina's demands, to serve your boss/resume, to serve your "identity," to strive to create a product, to strive to create an idea, on and on, different types of things one can be dedicated to, but all in all we are cursed to be always in some kind of motion…

But people who commit suicide don't know what life's for. They simply give up looking, sensibly. There's an alternative to not looking…

…but again, mystic.

There is no solution to this whole thing in atheism. One is captive of desire, forever, under them…

The real problem is a matter of spiritual warfare. It has no sure footing. "meme magic" is the stupid and dull end of the spectrum.

Consider how many times even the simplest of encounters boil down to a struggle for power, if in posturing, etc.

It all comes down to power, which is the energy of evil, and wars with it.

Un-power and un-existence don't as easily transfer into an idea we can see.

But if power is there, we can at least imagine some counter-force. I mean power in the sense of psychological games, but also a sense of magic, that is, eg persuasion…

So if we are to find a concept of what is past MRA/MGTOW it is perceiving the actual war. Knowing it, the precise formulations are not necessarily of interest.

That's my particular take on "next."

What's yours?

yes ,everyone wants their version of "power".

why not let them have it?

your friend wants to show off for women by putting you down?let him.

your boss wants to yell at you for his own mistake? okay.

they're all trying to gain power over the external,which is by definition imposible.

I suppose the best way to counter that is to gain power over your internal self.

to the point that they cannot affect you at all..there's a parable of a monk who angered a king,"Do you understand that you stand in front of a man who can run you through[with a sword] without a second thought?"
The monk merely smiled and said ,"do you understand that you stand in front of a man who would let you do so,without a second thought?."

During the civil wars in feudal Japan, an invading army would quickly sweep into a town and take control. In one particular village, everyone fled just before the army arrived - everyone except the Zen master. Curious about this old fellow, the general went to the temple to see for himself what kind of man this master was. When he wasn't treated with the deference and submissiveness to which he was accustomed, the general burst into anger. "You fool," he shouted as he reached for his sword, "don't you realize you are standing before a man who could run you through without blinking an eye!" But despite the threat, the master seemed unmoved. "And do you realize," the master replied calmly, "that you are standing before a man who can be run through without blinking an eye?"

-Lauren Oyler

"An international sample of 1341 individuals responded to an online survey."

Online survey

Much science

Many Research

So $31.50

Wow.

Either it's fucking nothing, or humanity is down the gutter. I presume both.

Yeah, don't conform to the popular stuff and you are creepy. Is this news to anyone? Especially here?

Apply this logic to race or religion.

Heh, that's funny in a creepy way. I bet the toy was a train of sorts, and this train of thought leads you to seek help; from a train.
Better train your mind though.
I'm only pretending to be creepy

At about 167 posts, this thread is almost a tenth of the way to her sample size already.