Colossal swords are fucking trash in this game, why did they do this...

Why are people hating ultra greatswords all of a sudden? Is this some contrarian meme?

>>590681715they kinda suck compared to lighter weapons this time in many situations

>>590681715They cant into upgrading properly

>>590681629there is a giant before caria's mansion that sells more advanced stones, the most expensive one is 8000 runes each.

>>590681446there's bell bearing 1 and 2, as well as somber variants, and they only let her sell level 1-4 smithing stones, everything else you're still extremely limited

>>590681629I dunno about that, I've found a bell that lets me buy level 5 ghost gloveworts so I assume there's one for at least up to level 5 smithing stones, and that's good enough for +15.

>>590681825>Only sells 1-4 Awww, well it's still alright because you can get weapons to what? +6 at least? I can't remember.

>>5906821483 for each level, so +12unless there is a level 3+ bearings, but I've been in every mine and don't have it so unless they're somewhere else I don't think they exist

>>590681853>so I assume there's one for at least up to level 5 smithing stones,You assume wrong. I don't know why you would even post that when people can easily check what the highest bell bearing sells. Why did you post that out of curiosity?

>>590682225Oh, that's neat, so you can go all the way to +12, hell that's really good IMO. You can at least get the weapons you want to upgrade to +12 easily once that merchant starts selling stones.

>>590682225They do exist. Don't know where I got it though.

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>>590682315It's not good considering that you can get up to +25 in this game. +12 is like +4/5 in DS3.

>>590682448that's good, +18 is a lot more viable than +12, maybe I missed a hidden path in one of them?

>>590682460>+25 is maxJ-jesus, really? That high? What the fuck, I'd be fine finishing the game with a +12 or +16 weapon if that, seems hard to get a weapon to +25, where the fuck do you get all those stones?

>>590682613>where the fuck do you get all those stones?That's where the main complaint about stones is coming from. It seems ok at first but as you go on you notice it becoming more scarce.

>>590681715Poise and super armor are non existent for the most part so your slow ass swing get's interrupted easily. The amount of stats to wield the weapons. Their weight. They also don't deal too much more damage than their smaller counterparts. Basically having the same DPS. The only thing they do have over faster weapons is they seem to deal more "stance" damage. So after jump attacking the boss 6 times, they will usually stagger.

>>590681168low test

>Always just go big sword/strength weapon first run>Cracks are already showing what a bad choice this was but have no idea if i should pivot or to whatAre there lighter weapons that scale well with strength? Should I just change builds entirely? I don't know what to do

>>590682302>I don't know why you would even post that when people can easily check what the highest bell bearing sells.Boy, this sure aged poorly.

>>590682934I've been using the mace. Bleed is nice when it procs.

+8 sombers can be purchased

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>>590682934you can use weapon arts to change the scaling, but would be better to just do rebirth then. larvas are common, I've done a couple rebirths already just to try things out

i need a good greatsword for str/fth build. any suggestions?

>>590681032>Greatsword, default C scaling, turns to B with heavy/pure STR scaling after a few upgrades with slow heavy swings>A giant brick on a stick, default B scaling, turns into S with heave/pure STR scaling after a few upgrades with fast rapid pummelingGutschad, we lost...

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>>590683463>use weapon arts to change the scalingDo you mean ashes? A lot of the notable strength weapons can't have ashes applied and also require 30 or even 40 str to use.

I loved the big glowing sword from Bloodborne. So a str build is trash in this game? I have a larva to rebirth. Not sure what I should try. I'm currently level 27 and so far I'm doing ok but I see webms of people using magic to shit on bosses and the closest I get to using magic is bell summons.

>>590682302There is a bell bearing that lets you buy up to smithing stone [6]

>>590683907Hammer has always been the best weapon.

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>>590681032>does more damagewhats your problem? its great for a lot of things, including guard counter into critical hits

Are STR weapons at least balanced out by doing way more stance damage? Can you do crits more often than a dex fag?

>>590681032Don't care still using colossal swords.

Shut the fuck up, you fucking moron. I am currently destoying the entire game with this sword. Pretty much every boss gets staggered and is ripostable afterwards.

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>>590682613>where the fuck do you get all those stones?Cheat engine

>>590682934Do not listen to OP, Big weapons are great.

>>590684274You could do a crit, but fully charging a heavy will tend to have better damage after a while

Bros how should I distribute my stats for STR/FTH? I'm still using the lordswon greatsword

>>590684502you have to live your life behind a greatshield for guard counters since every boss is a quick anime flipping rapid attack fucker with the shortest openings

>>590682934you have massive reach on your roll r1 (that is also quite fast) and jump r2. they're not as bad as Holla Forumsedditors claim

I'm still exploring the starting areaLvl 20 with a str/faith buildIs this viable later on? How good are offensive faith spells?

>>590681032this game sucks balls. just accept it. the sooner you move on from thinking this game was going to be super good, the sooner you can play fun games again.

>>590684330Can you stagger a crucible knight?

>>590681715They can't stun lock things for multiple hits anymore do they take skill to use now.

>>590684914Yes.

>Icerind Hatchet +10>One shot most enemies with aoe art What did they mean by this

>>590684809I wonder what people like you consider a good game.Please let us know if your superior taste.

>>590685128>AoE baby shit barely reaches 10 feet in front of you

>>590681032>>590681715>Every single meta in every single from soft game is either a Ultra Greatsword, or a Katana>Finally some love for other weapons so they are close to be on par with both the crazy DPS and insane poise dmg>Wahhh Ultra Greatswords suck now because they're not superior in every way wahh

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>>590685128Weapon arts are really strong, obviously. Hit higher than the nuke spells for less FP cost.Any new build I make I'm gonna main a weapon with a good art.

Somber stone 7 where pls

>>590685128They'll probably nerd it. In my opinion it's way too strong for a weapon you can get 30 mins into the game even with minor upgrades.

I wreck most shit using the Godslayer Greatsword. There's some fights its not suited for and I've got a straight sword I pull out once in a while but mostly everything just dies in one hit to a running R2 and the weapon art demolishes any boss that can stagger or has wide punish windows. Also holy fuck UGS horse charged R2 is broken as fuck. Just the holding it out part of the attack does as much as 2 straightsword R1s and then the actual attack does twice that again, and will launch almost any normal enemy into the sky to land on their ass while you charge another one, and posture breaks huge bosses in two hits.

>>590681032I dunno user, there is a weapon art that increases your next attack by 60%, costs 10FP, lasts 10 seconds and works with any attack including charge, jumping, normal. And while it takes an age, there is very high poise armor to compensate for getting hit. You can one shot/stagger most things easily.

>>590681032I kind of got disappointed by it too. The moment I entered Liurna and Caelid, the giga-nigga ultras just stopped being good. Sort of disappointed, because I love stupid massive weapons.

>>590682302lol

>>590681068>can't even link a board correctly>>>/lgbt/or better yet, >>>/reddit/, you fucking faggot tourist

Wow it is insane how shit this take is. I'm using the Greatsword and it's been ridiculous at crushing everything I've fought. The damage might be suboptimal but the poise break trivializes every non-boss encounter. Actual bosses have still been manageable because the jumping strong attack has great range and recovery. You can still stagger bosses too.I already have gotten 4 Great Runes and it's been fun>>590685701There's 1 guarded by a magma wyrm underneath the manor in the northwest. There's a second one somewhere else in that scarlet area I think but I forgot where

>>590685641I've done over 4k damage with the Meteorite spell WITHOUT the Terra Magicus buff. I'm level 57.It's all a risk vs reward thing. If you wanna be safe and cast your glintstone stuff at a distance, you do less damage. If you're willing to take big risks, there are big rewards. Most cool weapon arts are on Int/Faith weapons requiring you to be in melee which already means you're gimped due to lower Vit/End.

>>590684914yes, gotta find openings to jump R2 and charged R2Some enemies can even be chain staggered like the squids, charged 2hr2 into their face and they get staggered, do it again while they're recovering and they'll get staggered again, until they die

>>590683907I fucking love the brick hammer, the beautiful simplicity of killing gods with a cinder block

>>590683907>A literal rock on a stick>Actually really goodBASED FROM

>>590685701First ones I found were in the 4th eternal city area. Pretty sure that it requires you to do the questline from the area behind the manor in the lake region though.

>>590681824pretty sure he only sells the ones that upgrade "unique" weapons unless his inventory changes later in the game

>>590681168OP is a fag, but that's why I don't bitch about it. I just wield my UGS and kill shit.

>>590683907There's a bigger rock on a stick.

>>590681553This.

>>590684274non-colossal greatswords already stagger almost everything it seems

>>590683907Isn't base damage lower tho, also range.

>>590684330I destroyed the entire early game with the bastard sword because I couldn't find an UGS, then I got that one and fucked everything and finally found Guts sword which I'm using right now. I got like 5 UGS now but 2 of them have int scaling so not sure what to use yet.

i HIT with zwei and I feel good.Eeverything else is just noise.

>>590682448I found that in Volcano Manor

My +9 Starscourge Greatsword feels really damn good to use.

>>590686804Giant Dad?

>>590686804based Zwei enjoyer

>>590681032I use that sword and I'm cruising through the game, literally never dying.Just one-shotted the virgins, the gargoyles and some other underground thing today.I'm actually bummed out that the game is too easy for me, so all the people saying it's somehow not the MOST OP weapon is really disappointing.

>>590681231You can get all upgrade materials except the last one in the shop

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>>590686723Use whatever UGS you like. They all seem viable.

>>590685563Katanas are meta now more than ever you turbofaggot

>>590687084Where?

>>590681715Colossal weapons are now hammers from monster hunter except stun recovers quickly so you have to play aggressively and utilize the smaller hit box jumping heavy attacks give you. shitters haven't adapted and "fight" bosses by standing around waiting for an attack to roll making sure the boss fully recovers from any stun damage taken.

>>590687084that is very good news

>>590686804POWER UP THE BASS CANNON

>>590681032>wahhhhhhhh they're hard!!! they're not perfectly optimal and easymode!!!!yeah, cause they're for fucking chads who don't bitch and moan about that shit

>>590681032The overall balance of different play styles seems abysmal. STR in particular seems useless.

>>590681032Shut up bitch, adapt or go babymode DEX

>>590682834I feel like making strength also raise equip-load at half of the rate of endurance would mitigate a lot of the cons. At 50 strength and 50 endurance a character would have around 25 more kg of equip load to play around with than a dex build with 50 endurance and at most 16 strength. The extra load would cover the weight of a colossal weapon, so STR builds would have to strip naked to use them and still be able to medium roll.

KNEEL

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>>590687303I'm >>590687065 this user, and I guess I lucked into a winning strategy or something.I swear I'm barely even rolling, just enough to get away and heal or whatever.UGS play for me is all about the jumping R2 and going blow-for-blow, relying on insane damage to make the fight take 20 seconds tops.And that's been extremely successful, TOO successful even.>>590687617What the fuck do you need 50 endurance for? The greatswords only have a 3 move combo ffs.I finished mid-game at 20 END, all while pumping strength. Perfectly fine, especially since armor barely does anything.

>finally got a FTH affinity weapon art>turns out I'm better off just casting the holy buff incantation on a quality weapon than use a holy weaponwhat a letdown

>>590687812more END = more jump attacks = more winning

>>590684914>>590686180Stamp (Upward Swing) knocks them back and interupts nearly every time. Also, gives you poise, lets you avoid some diagonal attacks. After 2 or 3, they get stunned.

im so confused. OP I think youre a fucking idiot and miss the point of how you play STR>stop levelling early to pump vit and cash out on the 2H 1.5x bonus>vs waste a bunch of levels on quality/dex levels for the ability to 1hand and use faster weapons

>>590687995Stamp sweep is better IMO because it still staggers like a mofo and you duck down while doing it, since most enemy attacks are diagonal and horizontal you end up dodging shitloads.

>>590687983Sure, but it's 3rd for me after Str and Vig, which are now at the soft caps.Also, every other stat is a dump stat, meaning you're consistently over-levelled compared to some hybrid build that's supposedly WAY more viable somehow.

>get taken to volcano manor>can only explore one tiny area unless i beat the gayest double boss ever made

>>590681032STRannies BTFO

>>590687995Wasn't sure if that would knock them on their ass as much. Thanks for the tip.

>>590688193I'm pretty sure that boss doesn't even go anywhere after, just back to the map.I could have missed something, but I think you have to do the capital first and come back to actually fight the demigod.

>>590681032I can't be the only gamer who's getting tired of the constant Berserk homages in games.Especially because longswords/great swords/two-handed swords in real life are interesting enough on their own, with surprisingly subtle technique. Let's see more of THAT, hmm?

>>590688101Meant for>>590688276

>>590681032Give it 2 months and you fags will be crying about how OP they are.

>>590681032I was one-shotting those puff, but I had 50 STR. The bigger problem is that pure STR is tedious, gameplay-wise.

>>590688285Look, at first it was a parade, now it's an entire month. Leave something for us, alright?

>>590681032balancing definitely feels really off in this game. It's not really suprising since its an open world on top of everythingI usually don't like tampering with game balance too much but it might be a good idea

>>590687812>I swear I'm barely even rollingjumping heavy IS your roll. jumping over attacks and ducking under them from the jumping heavy recovery is the entire playstyle. counting your jumping attacks so you know when your next one is going to stun is too big brained for i-frame addicted dexcucks. every fight is going to be you either btfo the boss in a few stuns or you eat shit because you couldn't find which attacks you jump over and duck under

>>590681825Nope, you can buy everything but the last level. I know, because I have every stone available in the shop EXCEPT FOR THE ONES I NEED!

>>590681168Nah heavy GS bros are the best, it's normal GS nerds that are the real fags

>>590681715UGSfags got exposed as frauds.

>>590683907Greathammers were always the best STR weapons. All greatswords had was a poke. Also in Elden Ring they one-hit players.

>>590681168why are you posting this user, don't you have a pepperoni pizza to dab with a napkin and eat with a knife and fork?

>>590688082>pump vit and cash out on the 2H 1.5x bonuswait what ?

I think this is the only game aside from DaS 1 where STR is genuinely fun, I just think it needs buffs.

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>>590681715dextrannies

>>590681715waifu dexfags spilling their beans

>>590682448Do you need 12 of each tier of stone like you do for the first two tiers? That means it'd cost 230400 souls to get a weapon to +18, or 211 midgets at 1096 a pop, and that's not counting any smithing costs.

>>590683435From the twins?

>>590688515>fraudswtf does that even mean? yiou make no fucking sense

>>590687782No, YOU KNEELyou can put ash arts on it like bleed or frost

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>>590688515What the hell are you talking about, woman

>>590681032>one hand on the sword to avoid the 30% strength bonuslol

>>590688815>yiou make no fucking senseyeah, I guess it would be hard for a hack fraud to understand

>>590688865What the fuck are you talking about kid, get to bed

>>590687782I was building my character to evetually use this. 30 STR and 14 FTH is quite the investment but now I'm not so sure. There seem to be other, better weapons.

>>590688864delete this right fucking now, UGS shillYES GOY VERY GOOD BE STUNNED FOR ONE SECOND AFTER EACH HIT YEEEEEES...VERY GOOD...

Anyone else think the input-buffering in this game is insane?>try to dodge something>get hit>0,5 seconds later after I leave my stagger animation the game executes my dodge, completely throwing me out of my rythm and opening me up to follow-ups

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>>590687252you get the bearing after a mandatory story boss

>>590687084>+24What the fuck? So that's why this game gave away +8 rapier like it's nothing. I thought +10 was still the max.

>>590688285>Let's see more of THAT, hmm?Get the Knight's Greatsword from the knight who drops the lightning spellbook, with the superior DS2 greatsword moveset (came back as Hollowslayer in DS3), where you actually swing it with technique instead of smashing it into the ground like a club.

>>590689058+10 is the max for unique/boss weapons which are upgraded with somber stones rather than regular smithing stones. You only need one of each somber stone for each level.

>>590688839>>590687782Both of you KNEEL.

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>>590689058+10 is max for legendary weapons

>>590682934Strength works perfectly fine, just pump the fuck out of out your hp too. That being said, I'm unsure of how big swords work, as my strength related weapons are halberds twinblades, and some maces

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what are the new soft caps for strength and dex? Is it 50?

>>590689235I like how FROM included a second Dex/Int katana so wizards can LMAO 2kat.

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>>590681032Where do I find the Guts sword? Asking for a friend's friend's friend's friend.

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>>590689990after reaching the first castle follow the road east until you reach a red, rotten swamp area. you will reach a small wood shack with a bonfire, head north and there will be a broken down cart on the road with two strong enemies protecting it. the sword is in the chest of the cart.spoiler free you can get it before clearing the first story boss but youll have to explore.

>>590690135Cheers, user

Does guard boost mean stability on shields?

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blood uchi, cold uchi, or just keen either?

>>590681032Wouldn't be a base Greatsword still do more damage than a Heavy at that investment?

>>590683907Truth is, the game was rigged from the start

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>>590690378means how much stamina blocks consume.

This is my first Souls game I'm playing with the Grafted Greatsword and not having significant trouble with anything. I have no idea how other weapons work out so maybe I'd be having a much better time with something else but I really don't see the problem.

>>590690674Is the giant club in ER? large club is but I want the BIGGEST bonk stick

imo the worst part about colossal swords is that you can very easy miss criticall hits on bosses, because of painfully slow attack animations

If you use anything but straight swords you're a faggot

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>>590690862more like fag swords

>>590688839my fucking guy, got this with heavy at +17 and it absolutely demolishes shit. has anyone had any success with powerstancing halberds? looks funny but is it just shit?

>>590691003>>590688839using this toojumping heavy attacks with the jump attack talisman is GOAT for dragonslaying

>>590690804Not that user, but I got a giant one.Some troll dropped it, I think in the capital outskirts.

>STR & DEX are still just meaningless damage+ statsWhy don't they have an actual effect on your animations?Example: the heavier a weapon is, the slower you swing it, but levelling STR speeds up your swing speed (within reason).With lighter weapons, DEX improves your recovery animation, so you can land more hits or recover and roll away faster. Especially useful if the gameplay was improved so that missing a hit made you recover slower. That means against fast bosses that dodge you, more dex is better, so when they dodge your swing you recover fast enough to dodge theirs.These are just my first thoughts, I'm sure there are better ways to do it, but the point is to make the stats actually matter more than "yay I get +15 damage".

>>590691227There is also an armor that boosts jump attacks user. Always read those descriptions.

>>590689047Its even worse when attacking on the horse

>>590688579I remember that beyblade villain

At this point I want a save editor to get smithing stone 1's, just trying different weapons around is too fucking impossible to finance

>>590688839Do you remember where the bridge he was at on the map?

Claymore

>>590690862Fuck you. The game gave me flails so you bet your ass that I'm going to use them.

>>590691712>he hasn't found the smithing bells

>R1 with heavy weaponsWhy are retards just sleeping on the posture breaking mechanic? It's like if you're playing Sekiro but only circlecirclecircle dodge because that's what you did in Demon's Souls. Use the damn mechanics that were specifically made for this particular game.

>>590691712You can buy an infinite supply of smithing stones up to at least 4.

>>590692136>>590692227>FinanceAnons

>>590681032So fucking autistic user, it "only" deals almost double damage.

>>590692245The earlier stones cost like 800 runes apiece, which is nothing.

>>590681715They have troubles gitting good, and I understand. It takes some balls and effort, but colossal swords are almost broken. Easily one of the best weapon types if you wanna beat the game quickly.

>>590681032Where do I even get a cool big sword like this one?

>>590681032Colossal Swords are trash because I can't use any blood skills with them!

>>590691971I'm just not feeling the Claymore in this game, I feel I would be better served with either a great hammer or a fast dex weapon to stack Bleed/Frost.The balancing in this game is all off...

>pick guts sword>lose fight>remember i have the Stomp weapon art>win fightjust use stomp more.

>>590687909That's how it's always been user. The trade-off is that it lasts forever instead of for like 1min like the buff does.

>find assylum demon ass slam as a weapon art>it's really fucking good and flattens lots of foes while doing good damage>character is extra thicc brown girlit's like Miyazaki knew EXACTLY what I wanted

>>590692175Breaking posture barely does any damage most of the time. In fact UGS critical hit damage is so garage, they're better off just normal attacking after breaking posture.

>>590681032Yeh no shit, that's why I respec'd into Fth and am having a blast with the cypher sword and shield and a bunch of cool incantations. Now every fight isn't just jump R2 spam.Greatswords and UGS should be to swing on r1 or do more dmg especially if you meet the lofty STR requirements. It's insane how much more DPS I can get off on enemies with a single handed sword.

Any tips to improve weapon enchancements? Like how to increase duration or damage

>>590693025I usually break posture into 2 R1s (around 380 at my current level of 45) and then crit for 700.

For me it's the Godslayer Greatsword. Categorized as a Colossal Sword but its R1 swings feel like regular Greatsword swings.

>>590693192>look it up>FUCK that looks sexy>22 dex and 20 fai requirements. It hurts being grugg.

Imagine fallling for big sword meme instead of big mace/club Swordsissies deserve no respect

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Is there a faith katana? I like the feel of them but god do I not want to go int.

>>590693284I knew this was the weapon for me when I saw that the description specifically stated that it takes no skill to use

>>590681032Large club is still the best strength weapon I've found 50 hours in but I respec'd out of strength recently because all of the actually cool weapons are dex/int for some fucking reason.

>>590681032Is the Morning Star decent? Thinking of giving up on my GS, or at least trying something different for a while.

>>590693426>>590693284This, i've tried to love the other big swords, and they're far too clunky and slow. Meanwhile ungga bungga stick smashes the shit out of bosses, staggers them and does it all with buttery smoothness.

>>590693530Morning Star's been carrying me since before Margit.

>enemies move much faster>poise is still nearly useless>heavy armour is still barely protective>huge weapons do less damage than babys first mall ninja knifeYep they fucked it up. Still using big weapons and heavy armor though.

>>590681032>>590683907Fuck, I used a shit ton of smithing stones to upgrade my greatsword. Did I mess up? Are smithing stones infinite?

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>>590689047Really don't know why input queue is still in the game. It's such a fucking relic of a mechanic and always, always fucks you in the ass. If my roll doesn't execute when I press the button, the input should be discarded, not queued and then executed after I get whalloped, ensuring that I roll straight into the follow up attack for double the damage. I guess it's a way of them teaching players not to panic mash buttons and it forces you to be methodical but sometimes when you're a couple hits away from victory you get a little bit overexcited and this buffering shit gets me killed too often.

>Attack Tree Sentinel>Hmm he is not taking any damage and one shot me, I'll come back later>Attack Tree Sentinel 20-30 levels afterwards>Hmm he is taking damage and he feels manageable but he still one shot meOpen world was a mistake

>>590693921You're able to buy everything up to +24 once you find all the ball bearings.Final upgrade has a finite amount per playthrough

>>590693073Loving the cypher blade. Dual handing that shit makes me feel like a blessed Wolverine, and the innate weapon art for it is great for quickly hacking off a chunk of health from bosses.

>tfw I always go quality in these gamesfeels good

>>590693921No, you can buy them. 1 and 2 are purchasable quite early in gameThere are weapons that are much more fun than great swords though, even great axes are faster, more powerful, and more optimised.

>>590693940lol you are bad, get better

>>590681715They are retard who don't understand how to use ashes of war or how the stun system works in this gameThey are trying to play it like dark souls but the game is different, much like bloodborne is different to dark souls, they are similar but you still need to account for the differences

>>590694057Yeah I was dual wielding the cypher sword and the cypher blade on my left fist but couldn't get used to the attacks so switched to a shield and the cypher sword. Guard counters trivialise so many enemy attacks it's excellent and being able to hack down mobs with quick, fluid combos instead of just smashing them with the same two UGS swings is great. Lightning spears are always fun to throw at a mfer too. Need to find a seal that buffs fth damage though, if there is such a thing.

>>590681032GS are also trashdual wielding smaller weapon is the absolute meta for melee builds

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>>590681454I got summoned with the blue ring and the full health invader shat bricks when my two big ass swords ripped his ass open.

>>590682460There are buyable stones to get a weapon to +24, the bells are just in optional end game secret areas, only the equivalent of slabs isn't buyable, which is standard

>>590682834Stance damage is nuts though. I havent tested small weapons, but 2greataxe/greathammer charges is a free riposte, since riposte does so much dmg you realistically only hit the boss like 4 times

>>590693940wtf dude he can be done without leveling. Just use the horse and joust him.

>>590681032The Lordsworn's Greatsword isnt a fucking colossal weapon you fool

>>590681629You can find the same item up to level 8 smithing stones. The second one is in a cave in the capital and the third one in some ruins right at the beginning of the snow mountains. Haven't found the last one yet.

>>590694349its not you stupid faggot, its a great sword.

Feeling kind of lost with my build now. I've pretty much invested in unga bunga strength for my first run but I'm not really enjoying it in Elden Ring like I have with previous games.

>>590681715dexfags probably

>>590694223what's the point of dual wielding?

+9 bloodhound fang50 dex, 20 str800 damage per hit

>>590694430You have loadsa other weapons/magic/faith/pokemon to choose from dude just re-roll or respec if you're far enough into it.

>>590689001You only need 20 STR to dual-wield it

>>590681715Elden Ring balancing rendered them useless.

>>590694167>Need to find a seal that buffs fth damage though, if there is such a thing.None that I know of, sadly. Frenzy, Dragon, other Dragon, Bestial, Fundamentalist, and Godslayer are the ones I know can be obtained. Nothing just for holy or faith that I've found yet.

Yeah I have 55 Str and a Greatsworrd +20 which has A str scaling and wear the talisman that increases jump attack and only do around 1100 damage per heavy jump attack. Something is fucked in this game. A scaling is also barely different from B.

>>590689321Where do you get the Gargoyle Twinblade?

How do I win? His roll keeps killing me. Sometimes I can get him stuck on a pillar, but it's not very consistent.

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>>590694717Try Lion's claw. I'm dealing 700 dps with it with 35 str and +7 large club.

>>590694430Str is better than ever. Gone are the days of mindless poise tanking like 1 and borderline dex r1 rollrollroll gameplay like 3. The player is rewarded for tactical aggression, overcoming a deadly enemy, killing them before they kill you is what strength is all about.

>>590694821hit him till he dies

>>590694853I try, but he dies that better.

>>590681032>gets an great sword>fucks up humanoid enemies and bosses by breaking their poise>gets anally penetrated by a diseased rat because the light swing is easliy interrupted and it goes over its head

>>590693940you need to fight him on torrent

>>590681032it's because stamina is dogshit stat it needs to be changed into making your attacks be faster (only works for ultra weapons) also stamina needs to give you x3 equip. Dark Souls 2 had the best stats system with adp.

>>590693940Why does he oneshot you? I have like 20 vit and i can tank 2-3 hits from him without dying and i only wear light armor

>>590694889Jews fear the offhand halberd. Seriously, use an offhand.

>>590687252Get bearings which are part story and part in caves with the Crystallid (?) bosses. When those blue fuckers show up you know you'll get a bearing

>>590694889This, aren't certain huge slow weapons more about breaking poise than doing maximal damage?

>>590694889I have no fucking idea why rats and some of the dogs have better poise breaking capabilities than gigantic motherfuckers in magical armor armed with enchanted weapons

Anything in this game that gets close to DS1 full havels poise protection?

>>590694268This. I've been using heavy Greatsword and with the jump attack boost talisman I can posture break almost all bosses in like 3-4 jump attacks, then follow up with full charge or weapon art into another jump attack and chain another posture break into crit if their wakeup isn't a quick attack.

>WOW WHY DOES MY HYPERARMOUR POISE-DESTROYING LONG-RANGE MELEE WEAPON NOT DO DOUBLE DAMAGE THAN THE WEAPON CLASS RIGHT BELOW IT?>WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN LIKE THIS IN EVERY SOULS TITLE?>I-I'M NOT AN ELDEN VIRGIN, W-WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUTseethe harder, child. you weren't gatekept, and now you will suffer eternally because you just had to jump on the hype train like the consoomer of dogshit that you are.

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>>590694851>mindless poise tanking>endure >spam R1 till bosses staggerTHE LEGEND NEVER DIES.

>>590681715Just retards who don't know how to play and always relied on them as a crutch.

>>590694815Double gargoyle fight, comes pretty late into the game, and it's a pretty aids fight.

>>590695153Not in a post-DS2 world, From took that play style behind the barn and shot it in the fucking face.You WILL roll, and you WILL be happy.

>>590693073>>590694057>>590694167where is this cipher sword?

>>590695189are you retarded heavy weapons were super good in Demon's Souls, DaS 1 DaS 2 and DaS3

just killed malena melania moronia whatever the fuck her bitch ass whore name is and honestly fuck you miyazaki and fuck all you cocksucking niggers that love this slomo combat system>they made bloodborne>they made sekiro>they went back to this broken shiti hate jews so much i cannot sleep at night

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>>590695349Roundtable hold, sits in a room with an invader afaik. So fairly speedrunable, as I think you don't even need to beat Margit to get it.

>>590695361They're still good in ER though, i'm up to the Academy and everyboss has been staggered after 3 jump attacks with my Grugg club.

>>590695604>i'm up to the Academy>literally super early gamecame and talk again if you actually reach mid or end game.

Holyshit lmao IMAGINE using anything except your fists, literal cheating and easy mode

>>590691759just outside the entrance to raya lucaria where the finger reading lady is be sure to go at night

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>>590683907Are there more warhammers at around the 15-hour mark? I've finished Stormveil and Morde then visited Caelid and Siofra so far. I love the cinderblock, but it would be pretty cool to have some fashion variety. Haven't encountered a greathammer yet either, so that would be nice too. No spoilers if possible!

>>590695216True true. Endure is so underrated

>>590695652So are there bosses non staggerable or do you they do the seizure business where they combo non stop? Because if it's the latter you have 3 choices to deal with it. (Endure, Lion's claw, Quick step)

Kind of sad ultras and other unga weapons don't send things flying on fully charged 2hr2s in this one. I guess it was too abusable in 3 since you could chain it on wakeup against most humanoids.

>>590695550i see, i already got that one. i thought you are talking about a straight sword

>>590695737>they do the seizure business where they combo non stop? it's also they leave no opening for you anymore your swings are to slow.

>>590681715dex trannies trying to cope.

>>590695750Colossal Weapons do this

>>590694062>Quality is shit in this game until you get 40/40 and +20'sdoesnt feel so good

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>>590694479With a L1 attack you attack with both weapons at the same time, effectively doubling your damage. Also the attacks are still fast as fuck if you pair straight swords for example, brutally increasing your dps compared to slower weaps like GS etcback when I tried, longsword paired with lordsworn SS L1 dealt the same damage of a +5 claymore, using a quality build with emphasis on STR

>bleed is super op>not a single ashes of war for heavy weapons with bleedwhy

How are quality builds this time around, anything really stronk?

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>>590695737don't listen to that shitter, he's just seething that strength isn't literally the exact same as dex

>>590694821Run at him when he rolls, and just run in a tight circle with him. His turning radius sucks

>>590692849yeah I guess. doesn't look as cool tho

>>590695792Endure handles that pretty well tbqh same with quickstep. But if you're not using Ashes then I can see how that can be annoying.

>>590695349Once you can level up and access the Roundtable, go there. There will be an open door leading to a balcony. Hop over the railing, face left, and head to the open area in the wall, and then follow a short hallway to the left. Go through a door into a small bedroom area, and you can pick up the weapon from a corpse at the back of the room.Note that you'll want yo act fast, because jumping down there also triggers an NPC invasion, and he hits hard against low levels.The cypher is a fast, pure faith weapon that ignores shields, so it's great for faith builds.

>>590695872bleed makes zero sense on heavy weapons. Your window of attacks on bosses with UGS and even GS is one hit every 2 hours, you cannot reliably build blood loss

>>590694939>needI mean, it probably makes it easier but you don't "need" Torrent for him. Hell, even the dragon can be killed without Torrent.

>>590695976you can I can get frost proccs just need to trade one hit.

>>590681715I've powerstanced a couple ultra greatswords for a few bosses, but for the most part I'm just using a regular greatsword. It deals like 80% of the damage but swings like twice as fast.

>>590695872not 100% sure that's true, but you'll get a whetstone eventually so you can put bleed, poison, and arcane scaling on any big weapon

>>590694131>ashes of warUpward Cut is a crutch and I still can't use blood skills with them, FUCK huge swords!

>>590693284Where to get grug stick?

NOOO I DON'T WANT TO GET GOOD LIKE DEX CHADS I WANT TO TAKE HITS AND NEVER BE STAGGERED AAAAA HELP ME

>>590696018i feel frost procs waaay faster but i could be crazy, my blood claymore procced less than my frost greataxe

>>590696156>get good>dex is literally always the most op shit ever see any speed runkys dex fags play the game on auto mode.

>>59069619090% of speedruns always use things like the club, cope

>>590695652>super early gameBut I'm already level 42?!

>>590696262>90% of speedruns always use things like the club, cope>youtu.be/DFiMfNnH0Ls?t=1669literally dex weapon with bleed

>>590696386>sneedwordsdamn those things were broken

>want to use daggers>but also want to do actual damage and not just rely on backstabspain

>>590696452Every bleed weapon was broken and it's even more broken in Elden Ring.

>>590684794There's a decent str/fth hammer I've heard about thst you can find early on but haven't found it mtself. There's also some ashes of war that let you scale with faith

>>590685864Where is this weapon art?

>>590696386I said 90% bot 100%

>>590696069I have this, but how do I use it?

>>590694430You get tons of respec items if you do Ranni's quest. Just try some stuff out.

>play with 1h sword>hit something once>need to spam dodge because every bigger enemy spins like a blender and i cant stagger shit

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>>590696648the blacksmith like all the other infusions

>>590694430I'm the boat but I will finish my strength chad build and roll a easy mode magic next

Idiots guide to making a functional build in ER>Pick your base class, I believe most people pick one of Hero, Vagabond, Astrologer, Prophet or Vagabond>Raise Vigor to 20>Meet min requirements to use a decent early game weapon. Lordsworn Greatsword, Uchigatana or the Lordsworn Straight Sword are solid examples>A decent amount of weapons in the game need Int/Fth/Arc as a secondary requirement so you should invest in one and go get your ashes. You can cheat min requirements with the Soreseal so get that as early as possible.>Raise Vig to 30 and then Mind to 20 (if you're a caster)>Raise your offensive stats again to use the midgame stuff>Raise Vig and Mind again.>Dump everything else into your offensive statsEndurance is a meme in this gameIf you want damage upgrade your weapon/catalyst first. If you're struggling to stagger use your R2/Jumping R2/Weapon Art/SpellIf you're getting shield broken use Barricade ShieldYou can literally get 25 levels worth of stats for free from a talisman.

>>590696779>20 vigorhave fun getting one hit

>>590696734>he doesn't spam his stance attacks

>>590696734lrn2parry my friend

>>590696648i think you can use it when swapping ashes of war from site of grace

>>590696807from one boring playstyle to anotherfucking dark souls 3

based, fuck STRfags, always making the game EZ mode>any das game>equip the unga sword or stick>r1 does 1k damage and 4 shots a boss>hehe game so hard but unga is good!

>>590681715Everything in this game is fast as fuck so playing with an UGS makes it feel like a turn based game.

>>590696847so true i love strength and this is miyamoto at his absolute best, he has checked allll the boxes

>>590696842You could get a shield with no weapon art so you can just use your weaponsYeah 1h weapons get fucked

>>59069680320 is for the early game portions. You don't need more than 20 + 5 until Lakes which should also be when you're done hitting min requirements for your weapons and spells.

My blasphemous blade weapon art hits for like 1400 damage with a massive aoe compared to my piddly little faith spells. Shit's nutty.

So are shields just not worth it this time? It seems like every video I see is only people 2-handing and rolling through everything.

>straight sword was already super OP in Dark Souls 3>straigth swords is super OP in Elden Ringepic friendly reminder armor can never be good because roll fags would cry.

>>590697164dual wield swords is actually poggers af

>>590697164Roll spamming in ER is a death sentence because a lot of moves have good tracking or are delayed.

>>590697124If you use the right shield with the right ash you can guard counter for big damage without taking much if anything in return. I have the barricade ash (comes with the turtle shell shield) which staggers a lot of enemies when they hit you with bigger attacks and leaves them open to a guard counter which does big dmg and poise dmg.Changes things up a bit from just jump r2 UGS play.

>>590697124Theyre stronger than ever

>>590685864where

>>590697124These people are used to play Souls games, it's more efficient to roll than to block, if you don't get hit of course

For people who's using UGS, does it get tiring/boring spamming jump R2 or roll R1 all game? Seems like dex/int is a bit more fun because you have a bit more variety against random mobs/bosses.

>>590687303Oh ok, post video of you soloing morgott with only a collosal weapon while being aggressive. I'll wait.(You're a retard)

>>590697567*posts it*

>>590697528yes it was terrible. i switched back to claymore for now. ugs is only for good for horseback fights.

>>590697567sure on my next playthrough I will do that for you

Is turtle pope in limgrave

>>590697528charge r2 nig thats all i can tell you, i can lead a faggot to water but i cant make him drink

>>590697124>not worth itlmao there is art of war for shield that makes it fucking wall and you only lose little stamina while blocking and you can attack while you block

>>590697656I’m having a lot of fun with the claymore on a str build. I was going to put an ash of war on it to make it scale with str but I really like the gael weapon art

Quality chads what weapon are you at?Power stans what weapon are you at?

>>590697824what gael weapon art? i use cragblade on mine

Why isn't it Bloodborne combat instead Souls?

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>>590697210Frfr no cap it be bussin yo

>>590698027bloodborne was a shitty game that sold horribly and is not even good enough to warrant a remaster or pc port, this will make you mad but it doesn't make it false!

>>590693936Retard can't control his impulses when victory is near. You are weak. Fuck off and git gut.

>>590697892Wait nvm. It’s nothing like gaels. Must be confusing it for another weapon but the default weapon art for the claymore is basically a front flip attack. Pancakes a lot of enemies

>>590681032To counter typical Souls meta where you make naked man with big bonk stick and one shot everything.

>>590698072>THOSE GRAPES WERE PROBABLY SOUR ANYWAY

>>590698072>this will make you madhow so?

>>590682225>a level 3+ bearingsLevel 3 bearing isn't in a mine. It's in the ruins that are near the elevator after you get to the Mountain of Giants.

>>590698183i played it, it looked cool and had a better map than ds3, but other than that miyazaki blatantly aped H.P. lovecraft and a shitty french flick to a point where you have to ask yourself how is this legal

>>590695721I've seen phantoms with big hammers, haven't found one myself though

>>590698027Rally system should have came back, even if you needed a talisman for it, it rewarded aggressive play

>>590684167God how can 1 man be as based as TsujimotoMan just embraces the grug

>>590681032>my basic magic attack does that much

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As someone that's been a DEX/dodgefag all my life I wanna try a big and slow STR build but I feel like I'm getting my ass kicked by enemies, especially ever since I went with heavy armor, any tips?

>>590698303sure you did, PClardif you actually played it you wouldn't be shitting on it

>>590698027Hell, just anythingWhy did they downgrade after Sekiro/Bloodborne? Why are we going BACKWARDS to 13 year old dull combat?It's outdated and should've been updated to modern standards

did you know because of magic infused weapons via arts, you can go 50 INT and still use a +25 longsword and still do massive damage with melee, while having all the magic spells you can ask for?what is the downside?

>>590698345Anything that consumes mana is gonna be better than a basic ass attack.

>>590698409Nothing, they can't balance anything at all

>>590698072s o u rg r a p e sdw they'll port it one day, I'll be doing my 10th+ playthrough on PC noob stomping in mensis

>>590681032Like, i get they are supposed to be played diffrently this time actually going for charged r2s and poising through attacks with endure or warcry, but WHY THE FUCK is there no UI element for stance damage or a stat on a weapon that lets me compare their stance damage? Why does a major gameplay feature have no UI element?

>>590698459>dw they'll port it one dayDon't give me hope

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>>590698409Nothing except that you need to pump MIND as well.

Bros I sat on my nuts on the toilet

can you go full INT unga bunga with Troll Knight’s sword or MLGS? no faggy magic bullshit, just swings and WA

>>590681032If I kill the dungeater is my ending fucked?He feels like a dangerous loose end and I want him gone.

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WHAT THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO DO AGAINT MALENIA SHE JUMPS IN THE AIR AND I DIE REGARDLESS!?

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>>590698457I mean, I did a respec to caster for one fucking stupid boss, and then I realized oh, I can just do magic longsword +whatever, and it still does lots of damage.LITERALLY no downside unless you want an UGS that needs 50 str.

>>590698409is this the same for faith?

>>590687782I COMMAND THEE, KNEEL.

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>>590681715Definitely fall off in utility and viability compared to DaS3.Retards are saying to just 'git gud' which isn't necessarily wrong but there's an objective clear and obvious disadvantage between slow and heavy weapons this time around, especially since boss tracking is so absurd and positioning just isn't as much of a thing anymore.>this weapon type sucks pretty hard in this game bro>git gud>okay but they still suckPeople are still too retarded to understand the distinction of viability vs. possibility, that is ER is possible to beat with ultra weapons but they are objectively worse than smaller weapons. You can beat DaS1 naked and with a broken straightsword, it doesn't make those viable or good.

>>590698385>>590698459>>getting grabbed and teleported to yahar'gul early>the sketchy npc who transforms into a beast when you attack him>patches hiding inside a shack telling you about tonsil stones>bath messengers love inflationbut yeah i didnt play i just googled this shit to larp on 4chan or something, sorry your favorite game was a solid 6/10, then again it sold 2 million copies so maybe you're right to think im lying

>>590691437STR also gives you more defenseDEX also gives you faster casting and less chance to get knocked off of TorrentRead the explanations in the stats menu, user.

>>590694223just dual wield colossal swords

>>590698375Learn to anticipate and then bait enemies into eating charge attacks, be ultra aggressive and use both 2hr1s and jump 2hr2s/r1s, get some poise on you because your hyperarmor is dependent on how high your poise is, get your VIG up so you can afford to trade once in a while

I need some urgent Smithing Stones [3], where do I find an easy supply? I've done Limgrave, Liurna, most of Altus Plateau and some of Caelid.I had been using a Claymore until now but I just came across the Greatsword, but I got the Claymore to +15, and was using my [3]'s on my shield and bow when I found the Greatsword, and now it's stuck at +6.

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>>590698553The hell is this? Invisible enemies that backstab repeatedly?

>>590681824he only sells the special stones and even then it's only up to like +4 or 5

>>590698906Its part of a questline to unlock an optional late game legacy dungeon with an asshole boss whom I'm getting filtered by right now as described in my post

>>590695361>heavy weapons were super good in Demon's Souls, DaS 1 DaS 2 and DaS3And every single heavy weapon was easily surpassed in DPS by light weapons.As I said, seethe harder elden virgin, you are unable to grasp why ultra weapons are good, and you will never be able to enjoy them.

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>hot something twice>it gets super armor and flail around like a retardyeah, wizardchads, i kneel

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>>590683907How are they for crowd control though? On the DaS trilogy I've always gone with Claymore/Black Knight Sword because you could dual wield for single combat and one hand it for crowd control.

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>>590694939>>590693940tree sentinel attacks are so easy to predict and dodge, why would you ever get hit by them in the first place

>>590682148I' mat the endgame and at this point she can sell up to +18 for regular weapons and +8 for somber. I might've missed a bearing to get higher for regular weapons too.

>>590682834passive poise is a thing again but it's weird and you still have hyper armor.however I never saw the appeal of tanking thru attacks since trading in souls games sucks dick because everything hits like a truck.like you said, the stance damage is the defining trait of heavy weapons because that's how they make up for hitting less often. really nice for playing lame with a shield

>>590699083I fucking hate Godskin Duo because of this shitRandomly just enables hyper armor

>>590698804you can casually browse any thread and learn these things about the game frenmust've spent a lot of time boiling with rage in those threads

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>>590682934you could pivot into dualwielding regular greatswords maybe with heavy quickstep on it. Then you get the option of slower l1 for big damage or faster r1 pokes. Downside you cant block and have slightly less reach but more damage. Really it seems though the only way to make ultra weapons really sing is to get warcry and poise manmode charged r2s and just hard commit to boss staggers and just outtrade them that way.