ITT: Worst attempts at cultural reference humor

It's sad that they used to be good at this…

I never read ayn rand. What's the joke?

That is not the joke about that scene.
The joke was the Birds by Alfred Hitchcock

The Ayn Rand part is the explanation of the school.

Also, Alfred is the one with the dog at the end of the scene.

not really

Post them?

…There's no hope at all

Each day we step away from the Emperor's light even more

Did anyone else notice the Fist of the North Star "reference" at 0:45?

What reference ?
Jesse masturbates only to Evangelion, I doubt that he's manly/human enough to watch Fist of the North Star

Finn did a Hokuto Hyakuretsu Ken battlecry. You know, the ATATATATATATATATATATATATA

(SEKAI ICHI)
…That barely even counts as a HNK reference
If it was a reference to Kenshiro's "Hundred cracking fists of the North Star" it would have been a full-blown barrage of fists

But then again, we're expecting something good from cucks that masturbate to Evangelion…

Fuck that garbage. Now THIS is how you do a reference.

SU is also good at this, but they just go too overboard.
One of the last episodes went from having a Gulliver's Travels reference, straight to having a reference to Saiyan Saga DBZ, straight to having a reference to Cell Saga DBZ, in the span of like 5 minutes.

Anime is referenced way too much in modern cartoons tbh.

Remember when it was never referenced, like video games?

I feel like cartoon creators are really just manchildren who's only experience with storytelling and entertainment is Anime, 90s-early 2000s cartoons, and video games.

No, not really.

Speed Racer was kind of a gen x low-hanging fruit at the time

It's not the frequency, it's the frequency of bad usage. When done right, you won't say a thing.

god that was great

speed racer was on only like 5 years prior too

Here's the obvious one

Family Guy

Explains so much

I love how they included the bad lip-sync

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retarded high schoolers/high college students who think this is deep, even though some intern probably pulled it out of his ass and thinks its his magnum opus

literally evangelion

never mind that they made the reference, subtly but still good for a laugh if you knew what you were looking at, years ago in one of the Treehouse of Horrors

Yeah, with the cupcakes. I wouldn't forget.

The thing that bothers me in the recent episode is that the Clockwork Orange reference would have been fine if they just cut out the bit with the eyelash and Homer's direct reference.

It would have been pretty funny even, they just had to ruin it to try and get cheap laughs.

Go fuck yourself, Shitsons died over 15 yxears ago.

I don't think the kids are being taken into consideration that much anymore. Seems like people that work on cartoons have a tendency to stop caring about their younger audience when they start getting praise from adults. Kind of the opposite of the problem a lot of older cartoons had, where cartoons could be utterly ruined by people thinking that entertaining children is like entertaining retarded aliens.

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I'm not even seeing much Eva in this. I suppose it's attempting to knock off EOE?

Ugh, they even had to mention Clockwork Orange by name just to make sure everyone gets the reference.

They keep doing clockwork orage references, they even did a treehouse ep that was a shit clockwork orange parody, not including some references

No..it's overrated crap anime that's referenced way too much. You never see anyone reference Getter Robo or Mazinger in modern cartoons..except that one miscolored Getter-1 in that one episode of the original Powerpuff Girls.

Er…could we LITERALLY do that?

As a mecha fan, I would like to say..enough with the NGE references already. For fuck sakes, it's not even good. The only message I can take away is that never have an organization run by a group of assholes and let a teenager with issues pilot mechas. And never recruit a harpy as that teenager's partner, lest he will masturbate on her comatose body.

Nah, NGE was good, but only the anime, and only the parts that no one gives a shit about(like Kaji and Misato's relationship).

Yeah, pretty much. People say Evangelion has a deep and powerful meaning but the real meaning of the show is as simplistic as "if you drop an apple, it will fall." Yes, no shit an average student isn't tough enough to pilot a giant robot and save the world. This wasn't a lesson that needed to be taught to us.

it feels like Evangelion is talking down to people from the bottom of a well.

Best part of NGE was those few episodes in the middle where it was a monster-of-the-week super robot anime.

They pop up in Dexter's Lab as well, since Genndy is a classic mecha fan. I think there was a Mazinger-looking robot in Megas XLR as well. I guess better cartoons reference better things.

Thats anime writing. Or it is now.

Its getting to the point where the self gratification from Anime is almost sickening.

Characters don't even TRAIN anymore. They are just super awesome from the beginning, and every show is a mini harem all the time.

Not excusing NGE, but its simply brilliant from inside of anime writing. Saying something as simple as "This is now how people act" and SHOWING it, rather then referencing it and saying "Our characters are shallow archetypes LOLOLOLOLOLOLO" is revolutionary".

Its more sad then empowering to NGE.

I know. I used to recall when shonen anime had their main character train. Hell, the original Dragon Ball anime made a filler arc just showing Goku's training with Kami for fuck sakes.

Can't seem to find them anywhere. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?

Do people consider this to be deep and thought provoking?

I guess these days you can just pull something out of your ass, and pseudo intellectuals make out some deep meaning from it.

That's nonsense. It's always had some godmoding from the start along with characters who needed to train. Hero Academia, which seems to be the shonen darling of this season, starts off with a 9 month training period and a kid with powers he can't handle using.

There's always been both.

No, the point is the difficult, but necessary part of life that is connecting to other people. They spell it out in the both the tile and introductory dialogues of like, the fourth episode. It has a lot of other stuff going on, but that's the driving force behind everything, including the entire final act of the series.

True but its always scale, presentation, and quantity. And there of course are exceptions, and exceptions don't disprove the rule.

Its this specific blend of godmode, Harem, "Too cool for dis shit", light echi popularized (Or more akin to heralded) by shit like Sword Art Online.

Then the fact that its such a muddled of a point means the show is unfocused and hazy, which speaks to an overall lack of quality. The overall show is so messy, and that depending on what second you blink, you get a different interpretation.

Now I wish someone could analyse this fucking scene and show to everyone exactly why it's a blasphemy against humanity

I'm going to link this guy's video. He's a faggot brony who likes anime and I'm not going to call him smart or all that interesting, and I watch him because I have nothing better to do and don't know anyone who does better criticism on Youtube (unfortunately). But it's a seven minute video that is basically a more elaborate version of what you just said, and I can't deny its truth.

I believe it's its own category of hero now. The actual shonen hero is a scrappy youngster with crazy powers who trains a lot and goes on adventures and beats the shit out of all his problems.

The light novel hero is the unstoppable badass from the beginning who amasses a harem effortlessly and is so cool and badass and aloof all the time and ffuachkglsajfdksafldasf Sword Art Online.

Like I like Anime. I like Tits. But just eeurgh. Everything in moderation. Cake tastes like shit if thats all you eat every day. Temper it with other food.

Also I knew that critic (And others) already. But /a/ would never want to admit it. Just as a fat person would not to admit their eating habits.

No, it's really goddamn obvious. It's everywhere. The only people who don't understand are the majority of the fans who are faggots and don't understand crap. and put way too much focus on the stuff that was never meant to have a point, like the Christian symbolism.

There's constant mentions of connections between people. 'Relationship' is the common message between everything. Kaji's conversation with Shinji about the differences between women and men, for example. There's an episode all about the man's obsession with his mother and the oral stage.

But then you have the retards who think it's about Christianity and that it's just this giant thing about mental issues, all by pointing at the last two episodes. Episodes that are literally just about Shinji's idea of all the characters, and are meant to only be what Shinji thinks of them (Misato being a slut, Asuka being a raging cunt who hates Shinji's guts, Shinji himself being a beta faggot).

I also appreciate anime and tits, but for some reason it feels like both are very intent on treating me like a retard who jizzes in his pants every time there's a panty-shot.

I feel there must be a serious problem that is the cause of this constant flood of generic same-old shit that keeps repeating itself and somehow keeps succeeding. Is this actually appreciated by the audience that is being pandered to? Is this still entertainment? It feels like the consumer has become this robot that has no tastes and is incapable of discriminating quality, and thus can be fed the same thing for years without complaint.

I don't know what the fuck is happening but it's going to keep happening for a long time at this rate.

I have to second this. Evangelion is not very deep. All the important things are presented at face value, more or less. It's the average so-stupid-they-think-they're-smart viewer who thinks it's a big metaphorical masterpiece with the depth of the universe.

It's damaged miserable people doing damaged miserable people things with the backdrop of giant robots and alien invasions serving as a catalyst for everything to get all fucked up, the end.

Man, its almost like the show us messy and unfocused!

And if I do take your word about how its about relationships, then thats stupid as well. Relationship is the most basic thing that ever exists between anybody. So the fuck WHAT about relationships. Its hard to have relationships when everybody is fucked up?

This, people try and harp on EVA for being 2deep4u

and people like to harp on people for "not understanding" the "symbolism" which was really just Anno jacking off to his favorite toku shows that also referenced the stigmata of christ because it looked cool, not for any actually deep meaning

but the point of the show is spelled out for you multiple times in the show, hell at a few points in EOE its stated fucking verbatim by Shinji and Rei

at the end of the day, if you look to the last 2 episodes for any real meaning, you're really grasping hard for something that isn't there.

EVA was a shounen mech anime where the MC is a beta faggot much like the intended audience, an audience which Anno thought desperately needed the whole "total escapism is dangerous, human interaction may not always be positive, but its necessary" message

You're a pretty dense retard if you still don't get it, I'm not even going 2deep4u, Eva is not deep, you're just too stupid to understand what is literally spoonfed right to you by the show

slice of life is poison

And it went completely over the audience's head, and when said audience grew older they made an ocean of trite garbage inspired by the most idiotic misinterpretations of their ignorant minds.

I feel bad for Anno.

Except when it's Diamond is not Crash.

With all that said though, Anno is a fucking jew and has completely forsaken the original message by selling out and fuffiling the very fantasies of the people he was trying to tell to get real lives, just so that he could make money off of figma sales and other spinoff mangas

I think Anno even outright showed what his audience really is in End? That scene where Shinji jacking off to a comatose Asuka? Yeah..that's what Anno thinks his audience really is.

I mean, he wasn't wrong, faggots on /a/ to this day still argue over whether Rei or Asuka is "best girl"

Technically that's slice-of-life mixed with murder mystery. It allows Part 4 to have relaxed everyday side-ventures, but still have a direction that pushes the show through its arcs. It's a slow and steady drive down the road, but it still knows where it's going and how to get there.

I forgot about that. I take it back, I don't feel bad for Anno. But I can't lie, I too would do the same. I would build myself a castle with the money of fucked up tasteless nerds if I could get away with it.

Don't forget Rebuild of Eva either user, just when you thought the milking was over…

I still think Anno has had Rebuild be an "alternate timeline" just so that they can make new mechs/plugsuits to sell as figmas

It's not messy and unfocused, though, you goddamn retard. It's only the fucking stupid fans that focus on this crap. It's no more unfocused for the Christian symbolism than Cowboy Bebop is for the jazz. It's just something the creator thought was cool.

But you're who Anno was spitting on if you don't understand how 'relationships' can be a theme. It doesn't have to be anything about them; it's just the overlying theme. A relationship between a boy and his father. A relationship between a girl and a mature man she idolizes. A relationship between a woman and her dead father, and how it influences her relationship with the man she loves. Shit like that. Like how Sailor Moon can be summarized as being about love and femininity. Except there are no retarded fans that try to find 2deep4me lore in the symbolism in that show, they actually take it for face value beyond the SJWs who go 'muh transgender' constantly.

I can be spoodfed and the show can still be messy as fuck. Like yes there points in time when the show just comes to a crashing halt and narrates shit at you, but that doesn't make the show good, nor does that work to convey an overall satisfactory and solid theme.

Have you even watched the series? It never 'comes to a crashing halt' to narrate shit at you. It's actually very good at telling you exactly what the fuck is going on while still not narrating directly at you.
I think you're just a retard that can't understand more than moeshit. Go re-watch Madoka or something.

Im not saying it can't be a theme. Just what about them. Its like saying "communication" as a theme. Both are solid themes but what exactly are those themes about.

Like go into a specific. Shinji has a shit relationship with his dad for weird fucked up reasons. OK. This never goes anywhere and doesn't really relate to the main plot in anyway, and just sort of floats through the narrative, and never really finalizes in the end.

THEY WILL NEVER STOP MILKING EVA

Is there some show Im not watching? Is this like the Bernstain bears again?

How about when Shinji melts into goop and I get to see a bunch of budget scribbles whilst Shinji argues with the Narrator (Heck thats even BEFORE the two parter). Fuckin brilliant

You know It wasn't until I rewatched it that I realized that the Eva universe is essentially a universe where the illuminati won. They formed a one world government after another disastrous war that they are hinted to have been the cause off to stamp out excess population. It's like something out of Alex Jones.

refer to

The last two episodes are shit, no one conteste that, but they also have little to do with the actual theme of the show until it clicks for Shinji in the end that he doesn't have to keep running away

Oy vey goyim don't you want to become one collective consciousness?

But isn't Shinji's bad relationship with his father a central element of his character

In a character-driven show that is about the emotional struggles and toils of its cast

The only reason Shinji is even there is because of the bad relationship with his father

I know or hope that this is fake, but you can bet your ass if that stupid GiTS Movie with Scarlett Jewhansen does well enough that EVA is next inline for the Jewlywood anime adaptation treatment

I like the idea of giant mechs. It's the whole being harvested into a conscious collective to fill the narcissistic dream of a bunch super jews that I have an issue with.

I think this just proves you don't understand a blatantly obvious storyline. I don't know what else to tell you other than repeat over and over again that the entire series is just about relationships and the inner mechanisms of the characters. Even Shinji melting into goop was a very fucking obvious symbol for Shinji going back into the womb and dealing with his mommy issues. iirc it's pretty blatant, with the name of the episode and I believe a conversation you hear over the radio when Misato and Ritsuko are in the car together.

I think the genre just isn't for you, user. You just don't like stories that don't have definite, typical storylines.
The two-parter is the worst part of the series and contributed to what shitfest NGE is today, but it was about Shinji's idea of how his relationship with others are. It's not messed up and it follows a very obvious over-arching plot to keep its structure, but I think you just have a really hard time accepting a show like this.

How did you like Cowboy Bebop, user? Did you think the ending was messy and confusing too? Particularly Ed's entire story arc?

If a dollar can be made. You can a bet a jew with the rights to eva will try it.

If its any solace to you, the rights to it in NA are in limbo, which while it means no blu-ray re-release for the burgers, also means no one has the ability to ruin it other than Anno

Sorta makes you wonder why they built the mechs in the first place…if the whole point was to trigger 3rd impact why did they build the mechs to stop that from happening

Hell, they got extremely lucky that Gendo had Rei and the aborted Fetus on his hand, if not for that none of EoE would have happened.

OK arguing about Evangelion is impossible because everybody finds something else thats "Its real true purpose that everybody else doesn't get!"

Its even more impossible because with so many interpretations online arguing becomes impossible especially with random anonymity wherein your not sure who believes in which interpretation.

Just as an example, as a show that I liked was Paranoia Agent. I felt like that was a show that was a true example of the focus of the theme of Anti-escapism. Welcome to the NHK was a show that I enjoyed watching about the relationships of NEET (Or however its called) and just as a drama on its own.

No, nigger.
There's two common things people say:

You're a faggot.

Wasn't Anno's idea of EVA a giant
FUCK YOU
To the mecha genre as a whole ?

in Eva's case though, Anno has outright stated in interviews thats what the purpose of the show was

As an otaku himself, he felt that type of escapism was "a self-imposed form of autism" and wanted to share the message that being a literal fucking autist wasn't healthy

If "the way in which you consume media and interact in the world isn't healthy you fucking faggots" is a "FUCK YOU" than yah, sure

Because SEELE(Which is the Illuminati know that I looked it up) was building the mechs exactly for creating the third impact. That was their whole purpose under guise of stopping the Angels. That's why it was shocking to find out the EVA's were alive. In fact there was only one actual Mech in the whole series. And NERV went out of their way to sabotage it. Jet Alone if you remember.

No..the big fuck you to mecha was that one "deconstruction" of the Super Robot genre written by someone who hates fun..I think it's called Bokurano.

If it wasn't intentionally, it sure got that message across regardless.

They tried to go back on it with Gurren Lagann but in the end that didn't really help anything but cause new problems.

Oh god, that's what's happening to the world. People are willingly electing to be autistic.

Bokurano is a horror manga disguised as a "kid piloting mechs" anime.

You silly goy. Don't you know you're just a transphobe/mohaganist/racist/conservative-christian. There's nothing wrong with being a degenerate. You're just a fascist straight white male.

Brilliant. I don't think it has multiple interpretations. I think it has one, but whatever it is its done terribly.

OK then, Il say that then the shows core message is muddled and taken away by it being set in a future, post apocalyptic mecha show. Maybe all the Otaku didn't get the point because none of them Drive Mecha. I can see Shinji as an Otaku style person, but the type of person he is is almost completely out of his own control with his fucked up surroundings. There are occasional moments where the show suberts standard anime writing but standard anime writing is so retarded that there serves no purpose in subverting it.

user, I don't think your problem is not understanding Eva, I think your problem is not being able to take a story at face value for some of its messages and also realizing the show kicks back every now and then to be, you know, a fucking show

Seriously, how do you enjoy anything?

maybe he prefers familiarity

Thats probably true.

I enjoy very little sadly. Im nearly incapable of switching off my thinking cap.

Like I only liked the first season of Dragonball. Because I liked the character writing more then the action (Because that shows action is terrible), and so as the show got more actiony the characters got overtaken by dull action.

Which is why the first half of Battle of the Gods is the best. Because its just a focus on the fun walky characters that infest the dragonball universe.

I gotta give you points for honesty here user, I expected some massively asshurt reply trying to rebut me

I'd say try going into shows expecting nothing and coming out with something, but I guess you can't really do that from what you're telling me

I think I might get what you're saying. I felt the same way watching the hobbit. My favorite scenes were when the crew was at the shire eating at Bilbo's house.

I felt allot more insulted at the accusation that I loved moeshit. Like I can't be mad at accusations of things that are simply true.

Maybe I could like NGE as a series of separate short stories to ensure that the elements don't clash for me.

Its almost like the turned a fun silly adventure lite film into a painfully drawn out 3 part epic.

Exactly. That's exactly how I felt. Like in the original LoTR trilogy. My favorite part was when the entire fellowship was together. I would've preferred it being Gandalf leading the group from beginning to end.

Do you you mean standard anime writing of today, or standard anime writing of 20 years ago that Evangelion was specifically lampooning?

My biggest grudge against EVA is not really the quality of the show itself, but it's influence

This is one of those wrong influences, Adventure Time had no fucking buisness to go full (√4)deep(2^2)you, depressive, no fun allowed
It's so devoid of fun and life, and yet faggot will praise it because "it dared to be more mature" and shit, AT had a lot of shit writting poisoning it before that episode, Betty, Red Throne, Breezy, All the Little people, but this was the final nail in the coffin

Its always been bad but now its worse.

Like Watching the first season of Slayers (Which I very much enjoyed) you got power ramp, unnatural character acting, and general anime tropes, and the action is tensionless.

But its so much more charming and fun. Like Anime has very good CHARACTERS. I would say they fucking MAKE the shows. Just watching them do stuff, even if they do stuff you see in every other anime is so fantastic and enjoyable. But now the characters themselves have devolved as well into just stock archetypes and self referential garbage.

Thats why I look for the exceptions. Like Gundam spinoffs (That can really focus on character or plot), the occasional high end story, and just good stuff.

I haven't watched AT in about 3 or 4 years so that whole thing was pretty confusing

It really does look like babies first "so depressing, so mature 2DEEP4U"

It gives me the idea that the people who made this are pretty narrow minded in creativity attempting to look mature.

that seems to only imply for niche animes IMO. Like harems. Where the MC sounds, looks, acts, and is essentially the same character.

Is it really a niche anymore? All that seems to get made these days is light novel shit with bad action, worse protagonists, and harems; or cute-girls-doing-cute-things slice-of-life shows about nothing.

Sometimes an action or horror show slips through and sometimes it doesn't suck.

Why every time Cuckventure Time is mentioned we end up talking about Mecha, Evangelion, JoJo and such ?

Well it may be a case of me only knowing what slips through into the USA but what I mean is even outside of light novel garbage, anime relies in tropes much moreso then any other form of writing.

I think this may be a cultural thing. Like Kabuki is about a VERY SPECIFIC form of performance.

Lightning God Must Wear Mast C, enter from area X during time Y, and leave during time Q

Its like antibodies protecting against Bacteria.

AT is so shit that our subconsciousness auto blocks it out. I mean what is there to say about AT? It sucks in 100 different fonts?

Well, Japan isn't completely alone in that. Old European theatre also often adhered to archetypes, because it was recognizable for the audience and played to their expectations which made it easier to deliver the performance.

I suppose Japan just didn't grow out of it well when transitioning into modern fiction.

We talk about JoJo because it delivers what we wanted from AT.

We talk about Evangelion because the AT writers have a huge hard-on for it and constantly fail at mimicking it, probably because they're hacks writing for a children's cartoon.

Mecha is simply allowed anywhere.

Well Japan is a country that wrestles with the past VS modernity more then any other culture ever.

Its the only culture to really be the same culture it was 1000 years ago when it just rock wall hit the modern world maybe only 100 years ago or so.

Oh yeah, Gurren Lagann..a show that ends with everyone being mopey fucks.

There's certainly nothing wrong with archetypes, but there is an issue I have

You see. It's not just the roles they fill, or their impact in the story. I like to use Wrestling as essentially the fast food version of story telling. For the last 5 decades Wrestling has been Good vs Evil no matter what character filled the role. But if you give John Cena again and again as your good guy you'll never allow anything else to grow. Whenever I want a quick jolt of excitement I'll watch wrestling. But Anime has gotten particularly bad.

We're getting the same character again, and again and again. This is essentially the John Cena of Anime. I don't even know what to call it.

No you're not. You're getting the same blank slate that the losers who like the shows can't put themselves in. Why do you think that in an industry characterized as having characters with wacky hairstyles, personalities, etc all those harem protagonists are the same wonder bread character with similar personalities, haircuts, etc.

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It's more like a Bella Swan Of Anime. Completely bland forgettable protagonist whose sole purpose is to be projected onto while exploring the much more interesting world around them.

Yes, this.

Harem anime is the male equivalent of Twilight.

those shows aren't alike at all.

That's exactly the problem, user.

Wait I don't understand

I've become an avid Jojo fan in the last years, but I don't get what you guys mean at all when you compare them. They're not even the same show or premise, one is a multigenerational cautionary tale on adoption and racemixing and the other is about a kid getting into zany adventures in medieval future land who ended up getting cucked by the entire feminist world.

Unrelated, who else hyped for the Phantom B0rf shorts?

Did someone say mecha?

Daily reminder that pic related is the greatest mecha ever made.

Miyazaki stated that Anime's downfall was that too many Otaku/Manchildren end up becoming mangakas and anime writers.
These people who only know of the anime they watch make carbon copies of what they like and add a shitload of fanservice.

Apparently it's happening with cartoons in the West as well.
Manchildren end up becoming cartoonists.

Miyazaki was right.

The creator if Evangelion stated that there was never any deep meaning and the symbolism used was because he thought they looked cool.

He was also medically depressed and full of self loathing at the time and Shinji was his self insert.

When Evangelion became popular, he decided to fuck with the fans which is why End of Evangelion ended the way it did.

Thats just Miyazakis opinion.
Another way to look at it is: you really dont make money out of animes so you have to give people incentives to buy BDs and figures.
So if the normal otaku watches a censored anime on tv but wants to watch it uncensored they will buy the BDs and you have to make girls look the most appealing so that they buy the figures.
Do i need to remind you of the Kannagi shitstorm? Or would you think that otakus would buy figures of characters if they went the capeshit route of "dyking up" their girls and cover them up? I think not.

That's a fucking steaming load of shit coming from Miyazaki of all people.

You can even see it happening in video games now. IntSys and Atlus have gone completely down the drain because they keep pumping out games for waifu-obsessed otaku, developed by waifu-obsessed otaku.

Pretty fucking much.

To understand Miyazaki's point for example: Sword Art Online, that shit is just .hack// fanfiction.

I thought SAO was made in 2001 and .hack came out in 2002?

SAO is 2009.

Released then, yes, but from what I've heard it was originally written back in 2001 or so and he just sat on it for years until he found a way to make money off of it.

Must be a coincidence that it's really similar to .hack//

the characters in the episode Finn the Human are based on it. jesse is japanese he is obligated to watch the classics. the more I watch his influences the more I see what an insufferable hack he is.

i can honestly say that i've never felt so much disappointment since that. even the lich's second or third or whatever defeat was far less disappointing than this