What Went Wrong With Stormfags?

Stormfront has been pathtetic for the last 7-8 years. There is a considerable group of Palestine-lovers on their forums. The users are primarily in their 40s to 60s, they don't understand memes and can't handle bait. Humour is virtually unknown to them.

What's the point when they were the website of groups like the NSM, at least in the 00s? When did that happen anyway? From what I remember of it in the 00s, stormfront was full of self-described neo-nazis, KKK members, christian identity people and there was I think a mod with the username "repealthe17thamendment".

I don't know, it's weird because at least in America the average white over 30 as late as the 1960s was racially conscious. Were they just complacent?

You're so new I can smell it from my screen. Lurk moar

never go full muh PR
you don't win wars by being polite

This is why people hell bent on shilling this "alt-right" shit need to be called out and shamed immediately. Holla Forums might be a bit paranoid at times, but it's necessary when you're being fired on from all angles. We can smell a Trojan Horse from a mile away.

Stormfags are not "neo-nazis", they are natsocs.
Those "thug neo-nazis" are just stupid guys who end up in jail and got tattooed with swastikas because of the race tribalism that there's there.

Also, you seem to still have some (((opinions))) from the time you were bluepilled

nigger I used to go on stormfront when I was younger. They used the term neo-nazi

The alt-right is a succinct label. It's just faggots and literal ones like Milo are trying to court and eventually co-opt it. Note that he never describes himself as being part of it but he tries to aligns himself with it in his tweets.

And is that bad? Using mudshits to dehumanize the kikes is a sound tactic, and it produces results with minimal efforts.

Those sure look like the kind of people who use the chinese painting analysis forums.

this, its probably the reason why this happened. Probably because people were unwilling to not go far enough. It sizzled down because of it. Shit, you can even do it alone. Outside of the grasp of potential spies within your ranks. Or just make a trusted friend.

I think that most of them just started to "accept reality" the jew reality, they had food, they were fed, so they though "it cant get worse than this or can it?" Well it got worse, kek, and look at those idiots now.

Most of them didnt teach their children well, a lot of them still are drug addicts and/or dealers, fat and unfit. They became the degenerates that adolf hated.

Paranoia is what fuels our memes and our essence. However with our paranoia we apply logic and reason to it, creating something politically influential.

Also OP, what happens is if there are leaders who are not cointel, and have great character, gumption and perseverance, they are assassinated.

Assassination is vital to preventing a resurgence of European Nationalism. This tactic of (((theirs))) is what fuels most of the paranoia.

Because most Whites still had hope.

Most Holla Forums users are nothing more than burned Liberals, who once held true to legal and civic equality. We were the people who thought that Affirmative Action should be refocused to poverty instead of race. We were the people who joyfully invited women to gaming for DECADES, because we though it was a perfect opportunity for equal competition. We were the people who had hopes for feminism, and that we thought that equal opportunity would satisfy them, we are the ones who fought with against douchebro date rapists.

Then we got burned. Hard.

I would wager that 90% of Holla Forums are former hard left liberals or moderate centrists slowly being ground down. Then reality hit. LGBT, Feminazis, and niggers being niggers, and the fact that White Genocide stopped being a joke and started being a fucking discussion point amongst so called Conservatives about the changing face of America, and the suicidal behavior of Europe.

In 2005, White Genocide and brown immigration was a laugh. The numbers were small, and whites were still a majority.

In 2015 Spics and Muslims openly declare their intentions, and our leaders go along with them.

Because it lacks a real movement and its ideology is too fractured.

Too long we have spent arguing ourselves

Capitalism vs national socialism
Isolationism vs colonialism
American vs european
And worse, Christianity vs Folk religion

This is evidence in the fact Hitler made fun of the KKK. From the beginning, "white" groups have had different ideas of utopia.

I think he means they're buying into the false idea that "if jews are bad, palestinians are good" that muslim shills push on halfchan Holla Forums

kek. I've been part of the "far-right" since I was a pre-teen except I've become more 'moderate' and realized stormfront was all noise and no signal with canned 'witty' one-liners about jews than substance.

I don't know if I have myself set down in stone with any ideology. I guess I'm a paleoconservative who is very sympathetic and curious about fascism. I rebelled against leftism before I even knew what it was because I was ingrained with an ethnic sense of identity and that later grew into racial consciousness since america is more focused on race.

Good luck with your curiosity.

Know that fascism and national socialism have no definition, just whatever the fuck the fascists and natsocs claim to be convenient at the time.

And fascism is different than national socialism or so they said.

Shouldnt one goal be pretty easy to figure out? Kill all jews, kill all niggers, also kill all mudslimes.

after that we can figure out in a giant council if the mexicans need removing from the planet and how much.

There's nothing wrong with them, they kept the memes alive while we were all busy being gaslighted and cucked. But we've been moving the thinking forward while they're still clinging to stupid ideas like reverse racism.

The 90% figure is pretty close to reality. People on TRS have been polled several times about their political background and the huge majority of them were liberals redpilled by life. Former basic-bitch conservatives like myself are even fewer than former libertarians.

Of course TRS != 8/pol/, but many people there browse here, and vice-versa. I think you'd find near-exact results here.

daily reminder that stormfront co-opted Holla Forums and turned the userbase into underage nazi memers.

I think this is a good summary of a large amount of the userbase. I used to be pretty hard left many years ago, reality just kicking away my idealism over and over set me on a course to this part of the internet, years ago now.

I'm British and Rotherham was the final straw, the final nail in the coffin for me being left wing.

There's a chance we're going to get fucking hillary as president and you're wasting time doing this shit. Get a hold of your life.

Take your DC back to where you came from

>>>/reddit/

As someone from 2004 4chan. That is false.

We've always been nazi memers. And Stormfront always whined about it, that's because Stormfront was created by a Jew.

Stormfront aren't bad people they're just older and don't know much about modern culture, so they fail to fit in properly. Like those 40 year old train model collectors, except their thing is nationalism.

But now nationalism is definitely a thing amoung younger generations.

The internet. Up until very recently all information was very strictly controlled (and no one could be fucked going to a library).

I remember in the early nineties when basically everyone would watch the same TV shows every night. With hindsight it was really fucking weird.

Also, the left have had dominance for long enough for the destructive medium-to-long-term consequences of their retarded ideas to come into effect.

You could get on the net with even a c64 in the 80s already if you wanted to shitpost. It was already dominated by leftists though.

former leftyfag here.

i turned more-or-less natsoc after seeing how the American government and institutions openly discriminate against white people. uni was a real eye opener.

Stop calling us stormfags, we're Holla Forumsacks now.

Yeah, and I was also on BBSes too but it was a very niche thing to even have a computer. It's become especially different over the last few years as even many normies are more likely to watch youtube than TV.

And I'd like to see some info on someone connected to arpanet with a c64 in the 80s (or whatever it was). (Don't worry, I'm looking too, it's pretty cool even if it's hyperbole).

Some time around 1990 I remember using an offline mail program to download a big chunk of the latest discussion on a Dr. Who newsgroup. Some fags kept trying to turn it into fag discussion and were met with some push-back from posters who just wanted to talk about Dr. Who without sucking dicks. I guess you're implication that not too much has changed could be right.

You want to know what went wrong?

We never made fun of ourselves.

We took it too seriously. We became passive aggressive.

Now we are assertive aggressive. And if you don't like it, then we can all laugh.

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The great migration from stormfront to Holla Forums.

We have much more in common with Stormfront than we with almost anyone else, we should be allies.

This BS reminds me of The People's Front of Judea vs The Judean Peoples' Front.

All roads lead to Holla Forums.

4chan * stormfront = Holla Forumsand

Hello fellow computer scientist

WE WUZ COMPUTER SCIENTISTZ

Nice video. It really shows how the only thing that can ruin a forum, or turn 4chan into marxist reddit, and stormfront into a feminist run shoe forum, is corrupt moderation.

Moderation must be upheld with the highest possible standards.

I don't know. I think the average 4chan user was left-leaning or right-leaning. But some of them decided to "grow up" and continue their doxing in the name of social justice while we stopped making jokes about niggers stealing bicycles and started taking a serious look on issues such as race.

Maybe you should read past the subject line you faggot.

edgy larping and criminal syndicates

Stormfront is a good soft introduction to the movement but if you stay there for a few years you will begin to grow disillusioned, the movement seems to be spinning it's wheels. The members demoralize any condemn real world actions. They see the problems everywhere but seem content to not attempt to fix them or offer solutions. People that do not follow the herd are destroyed and banned for being "jew trolls" or just too radical.

It's only when you start moving beyond Stormfront that you see the progress our movement is making, and great progress it is.

Faggots like Milo are trying to make it a thing before it ever becomes a thing. Beforehand infiltration was necessary. Now the key strategy is to make the group so you can control its label, limit its influence, distort its purpose, and dilute its value.

neo nazi movements get infested with cranks and it's hard to spread the message pre internet.

the KKK were trolls and completely rejected PR so of course they have bad public relations, also FBI'd.

skinheads were a rabble

He hasn't been ballsy enough to try to "lead" it. Either he's worried about the fallout from the mainstream press or from the alt-right. Right now he's just trying to court us.

That's because we're not organized like the baby boomers are. We exist entirely on the internet with no chapters or cells to put plants in.

Fucking stromfags

stormfront users are even more moderate than Holla Forums, you're not even allowed to say nigger over there or you get banned

good to know you have no idea what your talking about, instead just parroting maymays you heard on le reddit so egdly XD

BACK TO REDDIT

Nigger please. I used to go on stormfront in the early 00s so I wasn't aware it changed so much.

Way to disregard the rest of the OP like an illiterate, knee-jerk poster. I'm sure you make many well-thought posts.

you're thread is a waste of time. there is no discussion to be had

Illiterate too

This.
Also I would like it if Holla Forums stopped bashing stormfront. They may be not as internet savvy as us but their heart is in the right place generally. It serves no good purpose to attack stormfront.

I used to be a leftist. The reason I was a leftist was because the facts I was given were incorrect. If the races were truly equal then it's justifiable that treating other races poorly would be an injustice, but the reality is that races are different. Then I became a bigot overnight because I liked to call my friends niggers and faggots. I lived around blacks so I knew they were generally dumber, but I never maligned them until I was told I was doing so because I was using words that were verboten. After that, I really did malign these people and the redpilling never stopped.

Is that something to brag about?

I've only been once; I was linked to a thread there about LotR.

I don't particularly care for that style of forum, so I didn't stick around to see what all they had to say.

I've known that stormies were cucks for nearly a decade now.
I remember bringing this up multiple times on /new/. Why the fuck does stormfront have a "latin-american" section? Makes no sense. When I found out, I immediately discarded whatever hope I had in them and remained independent.

Poor leadership mostly. It was also never very popular in europe because there were no brown people so no reason to be afraid. It has been popular several times the 80's come to mind.

This.

Stormfront is like Reddit, bunch of SJW women control the discourse.

The point, anime shitposter, is that the "Stormfront is too radical" meme is the result of people forming an opinion based on leftist polemics of Stormfront, rather than having actual knowledge and experience of the site.

Stormfront is still shit, but not for the reason most people think

Stormfag here.
Americunts like you don't know what's going on in Europe. Sons of Odin is exploding in popularity, nationalism is on the rise.
Stormfags like me push the overton window and allow comfy easy nationalists like Trump to get into power. If people like Trump don't win, that's fine, we'll have pushed the overton window even further. Next cycle you'll have a self-avowed white nationalist running. If he doesn't win, next cycle you'll have a George Rockwell running.

That's how these things work. You need radicals like us to shitpost swastikas on youtube chats, which gets pundits to discuss Stormfags and disavow us. Then they get backlash from Softball nationalists like Holla Forums and TRS, which makes them apologize.
That moves the overton window.
You need us.
You need us.

It was racist before them and the hitler did nothing wrong meme was before them they came for like a week and then got laughed out

These people are worse then the stromfags

Stormfront more radical than Holla Forums.
Wow, nice try shill.
TRS is a shit-tier shilling platform for people like Firestarter Media.
Stormfront is as centrist as you can get.
You're not a Stormfront user.
You are trying to a) D&C b) lend legitimacy to TRS.
Shill gtfo.

It's purely for fun, it does nothing. Stormfront has been a honeypot, content-free, more moderate version of Holla Forums since the beginning.

because it preaches a losing message. No one wants to be on a losing team

Also, any time they succeed at something they think the jews are behind it. Pol does the same thing when they attack people like RamZPaul.

And, as you say, we had parties as recently as the 60's. When was the last time you heard of a nationalist running for city council? We're all keyboard warriors. If we want to effect change we have to get involved locally.

ramz pls go, we have long memories here

who mocked white genocide? ram z or roosh? His defense of roosh, iirc, was over a single article roosh wrote.

The how to stop rape satirical/thought experiment article

Roosh made fun of white genocide and said he didn't care about it happening. Ramz then defended roosh and poked fun at people who were incensed. This was not about the rape article. Roosh then added fuel to the fire by saying, "it must piss off white nationalists that I'm sexing up the women they're trying to save". Ramz still hasn't denounced him, so we dropped Ramz like a hot plate.

I feel like my brain pulled the emergency brake when it heard someone say (paraphrasing) "I can't wait until everyone is the same color so we can finally stop being racist".
I just couldn't process the idea of protecting diversity by making everyone the same.

ramzpaul was trying to trigger all the 1488 basement warriors, he didn't even know who roosh was.

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Just read this the other day, skinheads are degenerate cracked.com/personal-experiences-1446-5-things-i-learned-as-neo-nazi.html

Skinheads are just edge fags who rally under nazism without it being real nazism, same with white supremacists mostly

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The time wasn't right. Big changes against the grain can only happen under revolutionary conditions, and people were riding high from the 80s right up until the late 00s.

Fuck off kikes.

Oh, and the internet wasn't in use by enough people until a few years ago, so MSM was dominant. With streaming services, many people canceled their cable and it helped further erode msm control. And then platforms like Twitter opened the doors to the normies, which helped a lot.

Basically, it is a once in a lifetime conditions where people are pissed, have access to outside info, etc.

The 60s was when things went pretty wrong. Suddenly a whole generation rebelled against their racist parents.

This was partly luck on the merchant part. Vietnam, as well as LSD happened around this time, leading to a huge culture shift where you had to be "hip".

Academics just went along with the dominant culture, which led most of the intelligence away from stormfront etc.

I hope this is true and we aren't on an irreversible decline of european civilization. No reason to be hopeless I suppose, but it's hard to prevent the collapse of an empire.

Most of Holla Forums won't like the answer but the reason they failed is because they had wrong things in mind (especially youth groups).

If you want to succeed, you must put race, nation etc. in the second place. What is in the first place?

Excellence - Adherence to Truth - Virtue

Loyalty to your own will come from that.

Only from these things can you attract the right crowd. Sickly body and degenerate mind will not produce, no matter how good the goal.

I just hate how fucking ugly and psychotic they all are.

I became Holla Forums in 2002 when I was in middle school and some niggers tried to molest my mom in front of the public library when she was taking me to go get my favorite tin-tin books. never forgot being a little kid and realizing how close I came to being another ignored statistic in the low level race war that has been going on in this country since the 60s

this

although I'm sure lots of ex-lefties or ex-liberals went through a conservative, libertarian or edgy fascist phase before ending up here

That has been already discussed.

Because when a stromfag says "kike", people see only anger.

And when we say "kike" people laugh.

Our power is in our wits and our memes. We take a grain of truth and cover it in a witty absurdity. We are never too serious about it too, because our main goal is not to present the truth, but to make people laugh about it. We are borderline satire, that leaves the normie wondering is we're serious or just pulling his leg, but when the normie accepts our memes he accepts the truth in their core.

I think Goebbels would be jelly as fuck of the propaganda and social engineering methods we accidentally developed.

Yes that's true. Are there no white people in these countries?

It's an explicitly white nationalist website, just with old people. Wtf more do you people want? Not everyone can be as edgy as Holla Forums.

Nice divide and conquer, Rabbi.

Nothing really.

The government has been going really hard on different nationalistic movements up until the internet-era. I mean really hard, with infiltration, subvertion, shaming, letting left-wing-radicals attack them and get away with it etc.

Of course most /polacks don't know about this, because it isn't reported in the mainstream-media, or is anything that is really happening currently. The fact of the matter is there was big movements of especially youth saying no to immigration back in the 80/90's aswell.

It's just the government succeded in beating them, instead most of them has left the movements and has become bitter about the whole thing. Some of them, you find on Stormfront and other internet-places.

Just remember no matter what, there's always going to be a silent-segment of the population that is going to follow us. We are never alone in our cause, even though the media and our enemies might want us to think we are.

people = FBI agents

This is what I fear will happen with a third Nationalist party.

The thing is that pagans must be crushed, there is no peace with them around.

I meant the majority of armchair white supremacists, the 300 lbs ones. The ones who say "whites r bettur" but also think jews are white. Ones that dont acknowledge the jewish problem. Degenerates the lot. Not quite as bad as potheads though.

Massive infiltration by every possible alphabet agency. Stormfront is a relatively old place and it naturally got filled to the brim with agents and shills. It's a bad place to start off as a redpill.

Good goyim…keep on dividing instead of uniting.

Honestly, today the KKK is basically just a branch of the FBI, there is more moles and covert agents than actual white supremacists.

"EVERYTHING IS A HONEYPOT! DON'T DO ANYTHING, EVER!"

Honestly, today Holla Forums is basically just a branch of the FBI, there is more moles and covert agents than actual white supremacists.

Weirdly so long as they are convincing enough at pretending to be us they still propogate our memes.

In a sense it doesn't matter.

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Damn. You sure told me off.

George Lincoln Rockwell got assassinated. Nobody stepped up to the plate afterwards while the iron was still hot and America began its cucking from the 70's onward.

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good post, that's essentially what happened to me.
never had strong beliefs and over time learned that old saying "if you stand for nothing you fall for anything" holds a fuckton of merit.

Pierce talked about it. Needing the best and the brightest, but getting only dregs.

The best and brightest are few and far between. They aren't attracted to groups like that because they can get a better return for their talents elsewhere.
Dregs are drawn to these movements, like liberals and blacks to BLM or OWS. The best a brightest libs took advantage of these people, they didn't participate. Where was the gain in it?

The best and brightest on the right get comfy news jobs. Think tanks jobs. Lobbying jobs. Political Jobs. Informant jobs if they were dumb enough to act on their emotions and get turned. Same for the left.

They make the policy while the dregs are left to scuffle over scraps.

George Rockwell was the grand daddy of all LARPers

Former anarchist here

LSD turned me to ethnonationalism

Not only does this abuse the term, but you're a faggot for using it in the context of describing far-right people. GLR was a WW2 US Navy vet, not a ww2 re-enactor who played germany all the time.

Disgusting.

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They don't make policy. They just implement it while getting the comfy ride to the end.

I stopped going to stormfront over a decade ago. They just got way too fucking cuck for me.

We're being replaced by Habibs with H-1B visas…

Same. I was an avowed socialist, and admired the Yugoslavs. Then I concluded what made Yugoslavian socialism successful was ethnic nationalism, and we could never have that here. Not with a resentful black population, and another population of La Raza mestizos.

Then I watched the entire media and government machine gear up for an open war on whites starting with Zimmerman. And I read about the history of the Frankfurt School.

It's full fash now, fam. We secure an ethnostate or we die.

I heard my elderly uncle say this in like 2009 and it threw me for a loop. He's a boomer idiot who can't think for himself and watches MSNBC all day, so I knew exactly where he was getting it from. I realized our people were being propagandized to accept our extinction.

renseradioarchives.com/stormfront/

>>>/facebook/

Too many of you think you are awake when you are really stuck in the dark. I can see the appeal of pol, it's immature and goofy, outrageous things anonymously said, and a fraternity-like feeling.

But there are some seriously bad things going on in the world, and this is another social media forum of escapism and fantasy for processing it all.

Media coverage that characterized any prowhite groups as being a bunch of mentally deranged freaks, thus repelling normal people and attracting freaks to the movements.

FBI infiltration and control. Corruption in the ranks, hucksters looking to exploit low functioning whites. Dumbing everything down to appeal to the low common denominator, attracting damaged and broken stupid people, and screwing them over.

The fate of all populist movements that don't have friends in very high places.

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Guys guys, you have to be a costumed neonazi to be a white nationalist, it's it's a successful american tradition I'm telling you

That's not LARPing you faggot.

Nice lack of reading comprehension. I'm asking why they failed at a time when the US was much whiter and racially conscious.

No, I meant stormfront users. We basically succeeded the babyboomers and older Gen X'ers.

I never said it was too radical, just that at least when I used to go on it as a teen in the early 00's, you had a lot of self-proclaimed "neo-nazis" and klansmen. I had no idea they banned nigger and kike.

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I left about 10 years ago when they started pandering towards Black Art and Satanist types. I mean… if we're not the good guys, then what are we?

Great post user. I completely agree.

When you look at the 'websites' mentioned in the OP they are actually hateful.
Maybe bitter is the right word, but they never leave me feeling like I am doing the right thing.
Using racial slurs too often, instead of when you want to emphasize niggerdom or kikery, makes you sound like an idiot.

Holla Forums is reactionary in nature. When we are attacked we defend ourselves and destroy our opponents by the will of kek, may he ever be on top, and make people laugh while we are doing it.
We don't spread our message through fear or guilt, but by making people feel good about themselves.
We make people want to be a part of our movement because it will benefit them.
Making them feel like they can be a man instead of being a cuck.
We don't make them support us because we will destroy their life if they don't.
They want to be a Holla Forumsack.

Here, have some semi-OC

Further proof Action Francaise and Groupe Union Defense are Europe's only hope.

'Stormfag' is JIDF shill lingo.

Go clutter up someone else's catalog you filthy kike.

Only shills and Leftards use that shill lingo, so nothing of value would be lost.

Everyone mass report this shill faggot. If you don't like White Nationalists then why the fuck do you go out of your way to visit Holla Forums? That's a rhetorical question btw, don't answer.

This needs to be emphasized more.

The left lured us with ideals like free speech, equal opportunity and justice, but it did so only to maintain its own interests, and shape us along with its ways; which of course were nothing like the ideals it lured us in in the first place. They stomped on them and burned them, and forced us to accept their new terms of "equality", "free speech" and "justice". Some of us decided to trash those new terms, along with the ones who introduced them, and not turn back.

They weren't funny, like we are; they didn't have to ability to create, hijack, and re-engineer culture the way we're capable of doing; they lacked the internet or had an internet which was a marginalized medium, whereas we have an internet which is close to being the primary information, entertainment, and communications medium, and what's more we were raised on the internet and know how to use it to maximum effect whereas our enemies are stumbling about blind and confused.

We're succeeding where they failed because we're on the cutting edge and a bit ahead of the curve, we likely have higher IQs and are more well-read and learned than they, we came about our views after having at one time holding contrary views while they were pushing mostly unexamined views. On several fronts we have advantages over the older WNs, and we must be sure to press these advantages and to remain vigilant for new advantages to seize, staying ahead of the curve is critical if we are to have victory.

There was one of the old white nationalists who was very much like we are and he was one who was achieving some degree of success before a kike gunned him down. Of all the post-WWII, pre-Holla Forums WN's, GLR was the most like us and the most successful, I'm sure our shared traits, our audacious and humorous showmanship, is the key to our respective successes.

Speak for yourself.

Exact same problem with Holla Forums

Take a look at Holla Forums. People here think, they really think, that being edgy, vulgar assholes on the internet is going to change shit. That that is the single, best possible way to change the course of the last 250 years of civilization.

That's why we're fucked. That's why we're going nowhere.

youtube.com/watch?v=Mu4-RRhs9aM&bpctr=1444168821

google.com/#q=site:stormfront.org nigger

google.com/#q=site:stormfront.org kike

Sure thing, user :^)

This, stormfront is like the 9gag or reddit of nazism, it's just a bunch of normalfags having "is X white?" discussions everyday

Cuck detected.

Your weak egalitarian bullshit morality is what caused this nightmare.

Nixon came to power when around 50% of immigrants were from Europe and the majority overall were white and illegal immigration was beginning in earnest. He came to power on a platform that was essentially pandering to the segregationists- reversing multiple initiatives during his presidency which had allowed for mass "desegregation" such as bussing black kids across town to get schools to have a certain percentage of DIVERSITY and kicking the only Jewish justice off the Supreme Court by publicly humiliating him with a scandal. The reason Nixon was ultimately impeached is because he absolutely overthrew the Democrats on the court and pissed off the Democrat-dominated congress which had a lot of cuckservative Southern Democrats at the time. It was 100% partisan and 100% an alliance between cuckservatives and liberals against that racist reactionary Nixon.

So the KKK, Neonazis etc. DID win in the 1960s and 1970s in the Republican party. And again in the 1980s when Reagan came into power and shat all over welfare niggers. The problem is the 1990s when illegal immigration hit flood proportions and the fact that Reagan had given amnesty resulted in tons of spics entering the country legally when Bill Clinton massively increased legal immigration despite panels he created recommended him to reduce immigration.

The Republican party stumbled and failed in 1988 when George HW Bush- a true cuckservative- was allowed to become president. Instead of enforcing Reagan's immigration laws he did yet ANOTHER amnesty of illegals setting a trend which continued through Clinton into the 2000 election when Bush Jr. and McCain were the two favorites and both were pro-immigration and pro-amnesty. Since 1988 the Republicans have been cucks.

Trump offers a new solution to cuckery since he wants to deport the illegals and their anchor babies (effectively stripping them of citizenship, since in order to enter the USA as a citizen you need proper identification otherwise every shitskin would claim to be an anchor baby with a forged birth certificate) and decrease overall immigration- Nixon and Bush I both increased immigration because Bush I was a cuck and Nixon was always working another angle with the Democrats, trying to fuck them (and as I said, the majority of legal immigrants were white so how was Nixon to know shitskins would make up 85% of the total by 2016?)

The stormfags themselves failed because of their preoccupation with revolution and failure to understand the complexities of Nixon and Reagan's politicking against the blatantly communist Democrats- there are even retards on Holla Forums who think Reagan was a cuckservative when he always supported South Africa but his vetoes were overrode by cuckservatives and liberals in Congress who were "anti-racist" and wanted to destroy the only functioning capitalist republic in Africa. Instead they went around stomping in faces and generally acting like monkeys. Why do you think David Duke first tried to recreate the KKK as a proper lobbying organization and then completely distanced himself? Because thuggery and armed revolution doesn't work and only drove people who are nationalist at heart into the arms of cuckservatives who promised "patriotism" that amounted to dying in wars for Israel and oil and said "anyone can be american" and used that as an excuse to double or triple immigration.

Trump is himself a nationalist who recognizes that being against lynchings doesn't mean being a fucking faggot who advocates for your entire people to be replaced so he isn't quite Holla Forums but the fact that neonazis are mostly idiots can be seen from the multiple instances of "some guy was calling people telling them to vote Trump to end white geNOcide" which of course one would assume sounds sane but people are brainwashed and you can't convince people that there is a genocide unless the government is physically rounding up whites and killing them- the irony of course being that stopping genocide before it starts is the only way to prevent it and these whites who are cowards and look away are only enabling the possibility.

For you, autismo

You you prefer to be called nordicist retards? I use stormfag to refer to a type of idiot on Holla Forums devoid of nuance who thinks all problems can be solved by running straight at a wall and demands purity.

You can see their type over on 8ch.pl where they circlejerk about how Trump is subverted because he has Jews around him, failing to understand that even Hitler had Jewish sympathizers and there were mischling Nazis.

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Maybe because Argentina and Uruguay are both 90% European?

Because most of their immigration came from southern europe. Why do you think there was historical animosity towards Italians and Nordicists occasionally tried to argue that mediterraneans were not white and even on Holla Forums you get retards claiming that most romans and greeks were blond and blue eyed? Because Italians are a mediterranean people, they look darker.

However argentines and Uruguayans are genetically as pure as white Americans, if you dispute this then you're not only wrong you're a retard who just goes "bud itds ladin so must b brown n mixed n sheeit". Countries which had very few indians did not have a lot of mixing with Indians- why do you think in Brazil the primary non-white element is niggers? Because they didn't have injuns in great numbers- only 5 million Indians (estimated) lived in the entirety of Brazil at the time of contact because they never developed a high civilization like the aztecs or incas capable of sustaining a large population.

In the case of Argentina specifically they received 6 million immigrants from Europe between 1880 and 1920. Their total population was only 2 million in 1880. By comparison the USA received 25 million immigrants in the same period and the American population including niggers was only 50 million people in 1880. The Argentine population was completely overrun by immigrants, no other nation in the Western Hemisphere can so claim to be an "immigrant nation" than Argentina where the Italian immigrants rather than the Spaniard colonists make up the largest element. Uruguay also received many immigrants and was overwhelmingly white like South Brazil. South Brazil in general is full of pure whites, it would be better if they broke off but unfortunately Brazilians are taught to hate their race and embrace the idea of mixing. Chileans are less genetically pure on average but castizos and whites overall are 90% of the population and I would guess that Chileans are probably 80% European genetically when taking the entire population of Chile into account.

Contrast the Southern Cone nations with countries like Mexico or the Dominican Republic where the average person is 55% European and 52% European respectively. Even if you note that Mexican society can be divided into North, Center and South each with differing degrees of admixture even in the North the average person is about 80% European on genetic average. In the DR the genetic statistics are thrown off by the fact that 15% of the population is Haitian and Haitians are pure black. Disincluding them the average Dominican is 61% European compared to 66% for Puerto Ricans, however the Puerto Ricans are much less evenly mixed with a higher barrier between them and the former black slaves unlike the Dominican colony. Additionally Puerto Rico and Cuba received millions of European immigrants especially from Spain in the 1800s as a result of Spanish initiatives to re-colonize the islands with loyal Spanish subjects while the DR was already independent and was ruled by Haiti for 20 years- so the population was not whitened as the Cuban and Puerto Rican populations were but darkened by Haitian occupation and did not receive a large number of immigrants due to being outside of Spanish control. Also note that in Cuba the whites there were specifically anti-mixing due to their fears of slave uprisings which also made them anti-slavery because they didn't want more niggers and enacted laws against interracial marriage after they became independent.

I'm not a retard so that doesn't really describe me

I was only a liberal because I was raised to be a Democrat. I thought illegal immigration was good because when I was 16 I feared chinese numbers and hearing that Europe was declining and knowing that we had a larger birthrate made me support back-migration to Europe to shore up populations there. I didn't think illegal immigration was a bad thing because I thought the Spanish had completely wiped out the Aztecs like we did to the natives here. As time went on and I learned more about demography from CIA world factbook and wikipedia I noticed that Asian and African countries were pretty much homogenous while all white countries were "80% white" or "70% white" and other fractions like that. I supported Obama when I was 17 because he was "cool" (hence why teenagers, even politically knowledgeable ones like me, are fucking retards). Hearing that whites would be a minority by 2050 and learning that whites had demographically declined as a percentage since 1950 made me do a heel turn into outright racial nationalism when Obama was elected.

I was never really a liberal, I was just born into a family of Democrats. Racialism was always on my mind.

That story wtf. I want to waterboard jidf now. Fucking kitten killers.

I didn't grow up red pilled but l grew up "racist" from my dad. I can remember in junior high in '07 when Obongo was running for president and l'd always say "why is that fat lipped nigger even in the pres. election?" Then l found halfchan Holla Forums in early highschool. Redpilled myself on kikes, marxism, and 9/11. And now l'm here.

The KKK is still pretty damn pro-confederate and anti-immigration, so is it controlled opposition?

What are you saying kike? Lurk more.

You're still alive?

Next you'll say Dr. Pierce and Robert Matthews were just LARPing too. Is the new tactic of (((Milo))) and his other semitic friends is to say that all the fascists are just "trolling"?

No, weev does actually post on here but I'm not him. He does have relationships with the Daily Stormer though. Not sure about Storm Front.

Jesus fuck, that sounds disturbing. I truly feel sorry for you user.

That doesn't count for the people who are not completely retarded.

Checking those dubs

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The movement attracted losers. It's really that simple. Only losers with nothing to lose would risk moving into crimethink territory. They served their purpose, they were pioneers and kept the flame lit, but now that we have Trump and racial consciousness is rapidly growing, we don't really need their paranoia and mental issues anymore.

These ideas didn't catch on until funny, sociable, and interesting people adopted them. Image and charisma matter a lot, which is something people from fringe groups have trouble understanding.

Stormfags have some value as sincere zealots, but too many of them are autistic, puritanical, and paranoid to ever appeal to normies.

THAT SAID, I still think RamZ Paul is a cuck for selling out people to his right. We need to handle internal squabbles internally and discreetly, not out in the open to show "see? I'm not a nazi! I HATE NAZIS!"

Orwell really was an oracle.

Perhaps for yuropoors. They were all born cucks. Most Americans are raised Right-wing and Christian from birth. They may rebel in their teenage years, but the smart ones come back to both the Right and Christ.

Timing was their #1 issue. They sounded the alarm far too early for short-term thinking people to understand.

Rockwell was assassinated, and the alphabets and media took advantage of it to gaslight the hell out of them. One of the best lies in recent times that's been told in America is that all the aging Nazis living in the woods and trailer parks "just sort of are that way because they are."

They will never bring up Rockwell, not even as a villain. They want you to believe American NatSoc sentiment spontaneously formed out of a trash heap of rusted Chevy parts and broken Coors bottles in a trailer park somewhere.

Also, most of those places (KKK, Stormfront, ect) are honeypots now. They're full of Feds. The KKK is more Fed than actual sincere members, and Stormfront is a data collection honeypot designed to draw in, contain, and dox users for Federal data collection purposes.

You mean the 1860s

Feels bad man

True but I (OP) was using it the same way [x]fag is used on *chans and explicitly said I meant actual stormfront users, not people who have far right views.

My post wasn't even critical of the KKK or the american nazi party so much as what succeeded it–and that's for them being ineffective and broken.

When I used stormfront in the early 00s it wasn't as cucked, but it was full of older people and the fact they now apparently accept satanists vindicates my point about them attracting fringe people who liked the 'extreme' and 'evil' caricature the media made out of them.

We're better off than the older WN/NSM movement in that regard. They had to deal with cells & chapters getting FBI informants in a much more personal way while we get shills.

If you mean advocating violence or terrorism, that isn't protected speech even in the USA. No one here wants to get v&.

What law are you talking about? The immigration act of 1965, which removed quotas for EVERY country was signed by LBJ.

I mean stormfag the same way as newfag, you literal, self-admitted kike.

Yeah that LARP shit is worse than abusing autistic to mean "anything I don't care about".

Nah. The 60s and 70s were ripe because a huge amount of whites were still racially conscious. They should've avoided emulating national socialism down to the uniforms when so many americans at the time fought in two wars against Germany. That was a colossal fuck up IMO.

I remember he said some stupid shit a while back during the controversy. It was something like "So what if so many prominent commies are Jew? Most aren't" when that exact same argument can be applied to other racial minorities. That's a lot of cognitive dissonance.

Jared Taylor is different. He's a proper "gateway drug" into white racial/ethnic consciousness because while he intentionally avoids naming the Jew, he's wise on them.

His answer on the Jews is around 3:27. He doesn't deny jewish hypocrisy or their role in subverting western civilization.

Do you not understand the difference between increasing immigration from 150,000 to 300,000 in 1965 and the fact that Bush increased legal immigration further during his presidency? Also I may have been wrong about Nixon but you need to actually learn some shit about immigration history beyond "1965 was bad". The Republican presidents prior to Bush I were mostly based, it is only since 1988 that full cuckery has been achieved. The fact of the matter is that in 1970 the majority of immigrants coming to the US legally were still white and thus Nixon did not care about doing anything about immigration. The removal of national quotas was a huge mistake but it wasn't until the 1990s when under Bush I and Clinton that immigration surged to over 700,000 a year and illegal immigration to 500,000 a year with both administrations and Bush II and Obama all refusing to actually combat it that things got really bad.

Did you know prior to 1965 Mexicans were not illegal because anyone from any Western country could legally come to America without penalties? Mass mexican migration was a problem before 1965 but only afterwards did we specifically list it as illegal and attempt to combat it- with Reagan being the one who got laws passed which beat down employers who hired illegals.

stormfags are a bunch of christcucks who believe in equality of women and men, believe that the holocaust happened or if it had happened would have been a bad thing, are afraid to use the swastika, talk endlessly about love, and their cuckoldry scares away women

unironically menitoning the kkk as a thing

Infiltration by federal agencies and other honey pots. Many different beliefs that vary by different degrees.

Otherwise you have the occasional mentally ill people who draw people to them due to their inability to care about any social stigma. But these individuals are too extreme or unstable in order to garnish large amounts of approval. IE: They lack tact.

Those are some things I can think of.