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magnums and hitecs are Holla Forums approved boots

I just associate steel toed boots with skinheads. I doubt anyone will take a second look at those, unless you're wearing a bomber jacket and have a shaved head as well.

shut the fuck up faggot

Generation Identitaire provides us with a pretty good example of what direction we should be taking. Tough enough to take on AntiFa and other groups, yet clean cut and professional looking.

THERE IS A GOVERNMENT SHILL ON HERE WHO IS TRYING TO GET Holla Forums TO FALSE FLAG TRUMP

THEY WANT YOU IN UNIFORMS

THEY WANT YOU FILMED BEATING A NIGGER

THEY WANT TO USE IT

THEY WILL USE YOU LIKE THEY DID TO NEONAZIS BRAINWASHED KIDS IN THE 80S

you know what's crazy? I was actually at the Republican Convention last weekend and it was just bizarre.

Like I've always seen the protests and riots on TV, but to actually be there in person was insane. The group that I was with had to be escorted in by police through the back entrance where Trump also entered.

And also, just so you guys know, I'm an actual delegate for california.

I'll be posting about that more though in the coming weeks.

as proof here is a picture I took of the convention that's never been uploaded or seen by anyone but me.

Wrong. Why do you want to copy defenseless europeans?

Copy Oath Keepers. Armed protests work.

Absolutely disgusting.

You misunderstand my post. I would just much prefer Lions Guard and Trump supporters in general not being made a fool of by college kids and radical, violent leftists.

Godspeed you. How long does it take for you to become a delegate?

Guns aren't necessary at this point, and will only make things more difficult. We're not protesting against armed police – we're standing up to well-organized lefties.

Also, protip: no weird hairstyles or facial hairstyles. Keep everything short, simple, and classic.

Oh, you don't even KNOW how many Rato and Kasich posters were there. I can't even describe what the lobby of the hotel was like. Literally a wallpaper made of posters. Funny thing is that Trump didn't even have a poster there.

It's rather easy to become a delegate. You just apply through the CAGOP, but it's also necessary to know people within the GOP. Took me about a month or so to get a confirmation.

Nice benefit to being a delegate was that I was able to attend Trump's lunch where he gave a talk. I also got to see Kasich and Ted later on, but that wasn't anything special really.

Think it breaks their mind a little bit. their side has a whole fuck ton of white college kids a hand full of black and mexican nationals our side has blacks, whites, american Mexicans, Asians.ext.

Worst advice ever.

You won't be standing up to anything. You have already failed. You will be beaten bloody. Blacks and mexicans don't care about fair fights.

Yes, I don't have a problem with the fact that we have multiple ethnicities on our side. But how poorly organized and nonuniform and weak we look.

Leftists tend to be "joiners" signing up for groups, clubs, etc. Right wingers tend to be loners, or too busy actually working to get involved in politics.

It's an intractable problem. Leftists see their ability to organize and their numbers as demonstrable proof of the correctness of their ideology, where as right wingers see it for what it is, astroturfing bullshit by liberal arts students and professors that have too much free time and are too heavily invested (career, social, lifestyle) in politics to ever logically examine the consequences of the ideas they're espousing.

Yeah, dude, good point! Let's just roll up with a bunch of AK's and see how that turns out for us.

I think we have enough young people on our side at this point to actually begin organizing, though. Again, look at the success of the European right.

They have bullet points to talk about.

-Trump is racist
-Trump is a nazi
-genocide (stay guilty white man)
-you're a fucking nazi
-how many people died?
-you're a fucking idiot
-fuck Trump

They don't look any more informed and you can't argue with incomprehensibility.
Don't confuse chanting and consistency with with being well thought out.

Kek 3:33 in OP the white guy got told to leave their side and like a cuck he did. They aren't anti Trump they are openly anti white.

Also, that GIF is triggering af.

Yes. I always have good points.

Turns out great.

3:22

All we'll be doing is galvanizing them to action. Getting guns involved is a really bad idea. Just ask those /k/ommandos.

If the right tried anything even slightly similar to the sort of crap antifa pulls every single MSM outlet would let out a massive 'OY VEY STORMTROOPER TACTICS FROM TRUMP ANNUDAH SHOAH CONFIRMED'.

My point being that's all they have to talk about, they can't legitimately attack his policies, his platform or hit supporters. Everything they spew is a variation of "das rasis" and "u dum". They don't know who many people died, they don't know what genocides took place. it just makes them look better to ask such a question.

All they know is what they were told by social media and the media and all they were told is that Trump is racist, don't ask why.

/k/ here, I disagree.

balkanization is desperately needed at this point. Sides must be chosen, I will admit it would be preferable to do it after Trump takes office.

Would they? They really wouldn't have any justification, and the self-defense excuse would be obvious. I think the evidence speaks for itself.

I'm talking about the guys who tried to troll BLM and ended up shooting into a crowd in self-defense.

Different guys. that happened the day after /k/ trolled the blm.

Same principle applies. Waving guns around retards won't do anyone any good.

Every time I try to develop strategy, my thread gets shilled and people fall for it.

People need to fall for shills less.

Anyway, propaganda on reddit. Destroy Hillary. Convert Bernouts.

Typical pacifist coward: but, but, but if you defend yourself, then they win!

They guys that shot at the blm of ccing and just happened to be white. They didn't see their guns until they were chasing them down the street.

Well, there's not too many shills in this thread. What did you have in mind?

Showing up at a rally with firearms isn't self-defense. I created this thread for self-defense. It's idiocy that won't benefit anyone in any way.

One huge problem is that we all fucking work well these libtards get government gib me dats, means they have all the time in the world to cause trouble.

were ccing*

If anything the lesson to take from this is that /k/ walked away while carrying in the open and the other guys had to run for their lives while firing after concealing their weapons.

so no the same principle does not apply.

Did they have justification for any of the other 'literally hit-lur' stuff? The simple fact that Trump is a nationalist who doesn't give a shit about the current moral order is enough to send them into palipitations of 'FASHIST'; and for these people Fascism is the worst word in the world for the worst concept in the world made by the worst people in the world. Its not even some clever propaganda tactic (because they don't seem to realise, lets face it, most people - even normies, slightly admire Hitler). They're just genuinely that thick that if they see Trump supporters organising to defend themselves they'll screech 'ERMAGHERD BROWNSHIRTS!!!111'.

Of course it is. Are you european? You definitely sound like one.

You created this thread to talk about fashion.

Yet another thread where stylish faggots dress up for Starbucks. Jamal and Pablo won't be scared of your polo shirt and hipster sneakers.

Which is why we won't be wearing polos and sneakers.

Yeah we should be wearing holsters.

I would suggest wearing a vest of thumbtacks under the shirt, but who knows what sort of legal gymnastics the yids could cook up for the ape who gets pricked while assaulting you. Is there any repellent method firmly covered by the law?

No. If we show up with guns, they'll end up showing up with guns and eventually there will be shootouts. Be responsible.

We should be wearing something that looks tough to opponents, but respectable to observers.

let me guess trench coats boots and biker gloves?

Except that the majority of them don't own guns. Keep in mind, these are the people who commit suicide over internet bullying.

Black Panthers have shown up to armed right wing marches with guns, and they're always hilariously outgunned. Shotguns, SKS, old .22s, and the occasional AR or WASR. None of them have devolved into shootouts.

Truly absurd.

Yes. Use guns. You people keep doing ridiculous mental gymnastics instead of using common sense. Thumbtack shirt, my ass.

Yeah, totally! Fedoras as well.

in warmer weather, khaki shorts and Lions Guard t-shirts. in cooler weather, jeans or heavy khakis. MAGA hats regardless

Also, just look at what GenID wears.

Yet.

That sure will strike fear into the hearts of our enemies.

Who?

I can no longer tell when you anti-gun people are being sarcastic or serious.

It's not exactly meant to. We're not skinheads. We just want to look like normal, decent people who can defend ourselves if need be.

The people I mentioned here

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I'm not anti-gun. I'm against bringing guns to a Trump rally, though. And would you actually do that? I haven't seen anyone bring any, at least not open carry. I'm not against CCing a Trump rally (and I'm sure many have done that in the past. However, if what you're suggesting is to walk into town with military fatigues and AK's, I'm out. I hope I've been misunderstanding you, though.

I wouldn't enter the location of the rally with a gun but I would be happy to stand outside mean mugging the malcontents.

Leftist pls go

Are you a D&C shill? You definitely sound like one.

Kek.In your head,it seems that you haven't realized that leftists have the legal power.

No,you don't,you're full of shit.

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Wouldn't CC suffice? There's no telling what the media will do if a militia stands outside of a Trump rally.

That doesn't sound like it could end well. How will you engage with them? If you try to ignore them, they'll only work harder to get you to respond to them.

Ok sure we need a uniform.
We also need to let the leftist know we are not to be trifled with, a uniform doesn't do that, force or the impression of force does that. Our numbers are not giving that impression so we need to back it with weapons lawfully used. (don't going pointing them at anyone keep them holstered or pointing down)

I would watch every one of them but i wouldn't say a word.

Fuck off.

I have been thinking about that a lot and not sure if I completely understand it but here goes

this results to people having "archetypes" types of brains that function similarly perhaps. People tried all sorts of things to categorize these things, from bryers miggs tests. To old folklore tying us to how certain animals function (star signs, chinese zodiac), even to modern things like the r/K selection theory. People in the past also used to have deities that personified certain behavior, to autismo mode in their application, like gods of war, love etc.

But knowing this, you could see how the jews may benefit from putting people into certain archetypes, into those that resist less. Perhaps that is why we have schooling, to categorize people into roles that only benefit society (and the kikes), by "filling up heads" with stuff that is not related at all to the removal and the recognition of kikes.

On our side I see strength, intelligence, and creativity unbound by political correctness, virtue signaling, and thought policing.

Our memes are dank as fuck dude, you're talking like we haven't actually done anything to influence thos election.

Or a dress code at least. And again, wouldn't CC and then mace or pepper spray suffice? I can see some problems that would arise from people open carrying. Think about the consequences of such a thing.

They'll really antagonize you. Again, are you seriously considering this, or just shitposting?

I'm talking about the public image that we're projecting right now.

If he does a rally within 50 miles of my location you will see me on national news as the racist white supremacist keeping a brother down.

A standing militia outside a Trump rally would only strengthen him, too much has happened to his supporters at the hands of savages uncontested.

protesting is for niggers who dont have jobs

(thought I put czeched in my last post sorry)

You are against using them. Guns are useless when you leave them at home. You are useless if you don't have the will to defend yourself.

Yes.

That's why they get beat up and bloodied.

I am saying wear civilian tactical clothing and arm yourself with at least a pistol.

You fashion faggots Larping uniforms are an embarrassment.

Well, it's working for them, isn't it?

That's fine. Didn't even notice that I had vegetarian dubs.

That's not too far from what I wanted. I don't mind CC. Just no fucking AK's like those guys you pic related. Maybe if a riot breaks out. But otherwise, no.

That little wite boi cuck at 2:49 could make a good trap.

Agreed but it honestly wouldn't hurt if we did have a uniform.
Would at least put us on even ground with all the "kill everyone that isn't black" faggots during the happening.

no, actually it does nothing

its undoing a lot of the work lefty ALCU groups were doing before SJWs took over

GET THE FUCK OUT!

We're winning.

OHMIGAWD SO MUCH HATE AND FEAR ON BEHALF OF STUPID PEOPLE IM SO TRIGGERED.

Hugely variable.

Eh…

Not really.

Not really.

Not really.

Welp, you've descended into retardation at this point.

And some guy drove donuts around them while they hooted and hollered and shit their pants.
They've been pepper-sprayed, nearly run over with cars, and in a few cases, beaten bloody.

The narrative you are trying to create does not coincide with reality.

Nah, as it stands, we're doing pretty good.

Again, not really - everything they do increases out numbers.
Most of them have no experience - this isn't Yuropoor, there is basically no large-scale antifa presence in the US, because we'd just start shooting them and they know it - and their 'strategy' is a joke: again, EVERYTHING that they do results in our numbers growing, and their support dwindling.
IOW:

Again, your narrative is false.

That said: Our present strategy is actively moving toward fruition, while theirs is actively diminishing their supporter-base.

IOW: Its working pretty damn well, tbh fam, and soon it will have worked enough that we can orchestrate openly.

I'm already pretty great bro.

Let's NOT discuss such strategies in the context of an anonymous board which can be - and is - monitored by enemy infiltrators - one whom, I suspect, created this thread, oh master of strategy.

I will share this snippet with you though: Roman tactics.

Now, shut the duck up, stop talking about this shit in this context, and go be Great.
If you are truly what you wish t portray yourself as, you don't need us to tell you what to do - and even if you did, I already gave you the two-word-answer to solve the issue at hand.

Get to work civilian.

High energy post tbh.

To add to that, that is why I also think that perhaps having full on agreement may be not in our interest. If we get wedged into one archetype. We may become less flexible against the kikes. Who are diverse in their assaults on us, from specialists in banking, to specialists in news, to specialists in movie making.

but like the kikes we can be unified in at least our purpose, as they want to remove us, we want to remove them. And to all ends, all minds, with all kinds of different approaches and strategies should be battling on many fronts. Some united in one approach, others united in others. Anything that is most efficient.

and I think we kinda already have that going on. Many different boards are helping against this jewish menace.

I hope you are joking.

Riots are breaking out. You even posted a video of one. Good people are being beaten bloody and you are scared that boots look "skinheadish".

You care more about being stylish than about self defense. That is why you fail. You are polishing the brass on the Titanic. Go Larp as a Swiss Guard if you want. Everyone else should get ready for blood.

Best post. We do not act yet. We need to let the left seem insane make ourselves the reasonable sane people. Tactical Bowlcuts and supreme gentlemen need not apply.

You know what I mean. Assault rifles. I can tell Ak's from AR's, nigga.

Enough about clothes. American nationalists desperately need to learn how to fight. At least know how to stand your ground against leftist scum.

Use the police field interview stance. Keep your hands above your belt and in front of your stomach. Put your feet shoulder width apart with one foot behind you, so you don't get knocked down. Be ready to throw your fists up to defend your head or quick draw a pistol. Always remember that self defense is a moral imperative.

policemag.com/channel/careers-training/articles/2012/10/one-stance-three-uses.aspx

Appearance and presentation are important though.

I remember reading that in the early days the SA carried rubber truncheons to defend themselves from commies. Surely we could find a similar, cheap, non-lethal weapon to use for ourselves in the future

First post to call out OP on being completely and totally full of shit. Good job!

A monkey's fist?
animatedknots.com/monkeysfist/

Maybe what the cops carry, those big Maglite flashlights, or extending batons. Neither are very expensive, and the flashlight has the advantage of blinding protestors. On the blinding note, (and not that I would ever condone this for myself or anyone as an actionable tactic, FBI) I've heard that in Sweden's no go zones, the sand niggers use laser pointers to blind cops

Get the fuck out of here.

trips of truth

Self defense is more important.

"Better to be judged by twelve than carried by six."

These days, a concealable pistol is the most important gun to buy.

Always watch your back against blacks. While you are arguing with one, his homeboy will be sneaking up behind you to hit you in the back of the head.

Shoot to kill, never say you shot to kill. Remember the three self defense statements when talking to police.

1. He attacked me.
2. I was in fear for my life.
3. I acted in self defense and self defense only.

Then shut up. If you are arrested, lawyer up.

Styx summed this up perfectly, comparing it to the civil rights movement. Our side will draw the sympathy, and thus the support of the neutral American citizen, because we're the ones being openly physically victimized. On top of that we're winning on the internet in regards to the information war. We've undermined everything they stand for. Their ideology is a joke to most. We don't need to do anything differently. We've already won.

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I agree that our side, not just Holla Forums, need to have greater engagement with liberals at their parades and festivals. There are three levels of engagement with the enemy:

clandestine: secretly record liberals and their pet niggers doing illegal things or saying outrageous things. This helps put problem causers in jail, produces great redpill material for mass consumption and over time can help chill the extravagant atmosphere of these events. Can be done alone if you carefully avoid being spotted.

only attempt the below if you bring friends

neutral: having a visibly non-liberal presence at or near one of their gatherings. The goal is to disrupt the atmosphere of ideological impunity otherwise enjoyed at these events. Activities include speaking at large and dispensing pamphlets with information relevant to the gathering (ex: black crime rates vs black incarceration rates at a #BLM protest). You aren't there to start a fight, but you don't want to run scared either. When it looks bad, walk away.

provocation: this level of engagement involves the display of provocative symbols intended to enrage the liberals. As you should know, liberals are disinhibited, highly social animals, easily provoked to violence and highly sensitive to symbols. Make sure your image is purely triggering; it must not be construed as threatening, obscene or libelous. A good example might be a poster of a european family with the word "Tomorrow" printed across it.

When your image is attacked, there are two possible outcomes: it is either destroyed or it isn't, and the outcome depends on whether you choose to defend it or not. The act of defending images, successfully or otherwise, from a liberal mob is uncharted territory, and may be legally unsound. Nothing real is lost by allowing it to be devoured, and you have forced the enemy to show its true face.

Advisory:
Leftists are always hungry and do not fear legal reprisal. Engaging them is always risky so do your best to make sure you can carry yourself away from a banquet by:
staying in shape
wearing inconspicuous protective clothing
guarding vulnerable areas like on your head, your neck, spine and groin

carrying guns is inadvisable since some Holla Forumsac/k/s got fukt recently when they attended a #BLM protest while carrying, so bad idea

Leftist are legit retarded, you can't even make fun of them.

Sam Hyde mocked them with KKK NAZI, now they're chanting NAZI'S RACISTS KKK.

You do realize that most white people would run away from any association with racists?

People are supporting Trump despite the racism accusations because he isn't racist at all, and leftists are so outlandish about it.

If actual racists start supporting him he would lose votes.

Spend a day off Holla Forums, you've got tunnel vision.

fuck off faggot you aren't in charge of anything

oh look its a gun autist who thinks owning an expensive gun means he is more effective than somebody with a norinco

And you are?

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"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared."
~ Niccolo Machiavelli

"To fight and conquer in all our battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting."
~ Sun Tzu

"Whosoever desires constant success must change his conduct with the times."
~ Niccolo Machiavelli

"He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight."
~ Sun Tzu

"The first method for estimating the intelligence of a ruler is to look at the men he has around him."
~ Niccolo Machiavelli

"Pretend inferiority and encourage his arrogance."
~ Sun Tzu

"The wise man does at once what the fool does finally."
~ Niccolo Machiavelli

I agree. We must study the Art of War. Not the art of trendy fashion shows.

>not wearing Bellevilles
user, pls

Go back to Vietnam

I had a friend recently make that claim. He is from South America and has family who are here illegaly, although he is not.

I looked him square in the eye and said the following;

"My grandfather stormed Normandy. My other grandfather participated in the liberation of Vichy and was awarded a medal of valor for his service. One side of my family came here during the civil war and saw a significant number of the fighting aged men taken from one boat and put on another so they could go fight, and die, for the Union. On the other side, my grandparents paid their dues, got in line, and came to this country legally. I have a whole lot of friends whose grandparents have or had numbers on their wrists. Donald Trump wants to enforce existing immigration law, and perhaps even expand that somewhat. That is not rolling into foreign countries and occupying them while putting a significant portion of their citizenry into death camps. That is not rounding up existing legal citizens and putting them in death camps. That is not targeting legal citizens because of their identity. When you conflate Donald Trump with Hitler, you spit in the faces of my grandparents and countless others by diminishing their sacrifice and their suffering. You spit in their face. Your issue isn't Donald Trump being Hitler. Your issue is that you have illegal friends and family and it bothers you that they will be prosecuted for their crimes, and you fail to realize that YOUR legal nationalization process would have been a lot more streamlined if it weren't for them."

It went in one ear and out the other, but at least he shut the fuck up.

What the JEWS WHO OWN THE MEDIA want us to.

Bitch thinking this is a fashion and popularity contest is why you're stuck in neutral.

If they have any sense; that motherfucker is going to kill me the first chance he gets.

Leftists more intelligent? They follow an ideology that has failed everywhere it's been tried. It's lead to the deaths of millions and poverty in every form and you think that's smart? No, you think their going to some overpriced liberal arts school that mommy and daddy pays for instantly makes them fucking Nobel prize winners.

We have the truth on our side. So no matter how bad it gets, we will never give up. We don't believe in some fiction. Our senses guide us. What's reality. What's right. We're fighting injustice. Attempts to genocide our race. We're fighting for those who can't defend themselves. I'll DIE saving a woman and or children from some sand nigger rapist. A leftist, will justify their rape and my murder on Reddit.

itt: military welfare queens yet again give shit advice

lol, thanks napoleon

ex-military confirmed for fucking retards

OP BTFO

You don't even know what that word means. You feel you do, but you don't.

ur a fag. no i wont be wearing red laces in my black boots, you stupid 'skinheadish' cockyanking bitch. you ask how to be a strong american freedom supporter, then you complain about boots. gas yourself you millenial piece of trash.

Get run over.

i cry evry tiem