Explain why Rey's acting was terrible

Holla Forums, I ask you a question. I know the person who played Rey is a terrible actress, and I get some basic points about it (Blank-eyed stares, sometimes emoting differently than she should, ect.) But I need a large amount of detail, so I can truly understand why her acting's horrific. I am not good at telling this, due to the fact the last movie I watched was some kiddy shit when I was young. Because of this, I of course do not understand what great acting is. So tell me Holla Forums, exactly how was this bitch's acting so fucking bad?

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You don't even deserve a (You) faggot

She is a woman.

In moments where she needed to sound strong and confident, she instead sounded like she was pouting like a petulant child. I would guess it's because she was trying to emote harder so that her statements would sound more commanding, but it came across like whines instead of commands.

It could have worked great to have her just act like a child, getting in over her head in some whirlwind adventure. But she didn't even go far enough with just sounding delighted when it would have been appropriate, likely because she wanted to sound like some stryng wymyn so she tried to downplay the excitement in her voice while at the same time showing it in her eyes (which then came across as blank stares).

Women have much lighter voices, so a way of trying to sound commanding when you can't have your voice go deeper can be to try and take your voice to the point where you're yelling slightly. I suspect she was trying this pretty frequently, which led to odd semi-panicked sounding yells from her when she was trying to sound commanding. The effect of this being that she'd be displaying opposite emotions from what is appropriate in a given scene. It makes it seem like she was trying to play the role as though she were a man which just didn't work.

Honestly she was average.
Its just that the writing was absolutely abhorrent. The lines are fucking unnaturally written and make her out to be a complete splurg.

I think her acting can be salvaged if in the sequel you show her as arrogant and strong in the force but later turns to the darkside kind of like Bastila Shan during KOTOR.

I attributed all the blank stares (plenty to go around in the whole movie) to the fact that 80% of it is green-screen nonsense. You ever see the behind-the-scenes shit on all that green-screen "acting"? The actor is looking at a tennis ball on the end of a stick or something so that their eyes are pointing in the general direction they should be, and are basically reciting lines while someone from behind the camera reads the rest of the dialog from the script. Sometimes it's another actor, most times it's just some schmuck that wasn't doing anything else at the moment.

Ian MacKellen can pull it off because he's a great actor (though, I remember reading that he was reduced to tears on at least one occasion with the tennis-ball-stick). Other actors can pull it off because they're good, they've been around the block, and know how to realistically emote a scene because they've done it so many times.

I think the reason DR falls short is because she's so young and inexperienced to begin with. She's in her early 20s. What's she really even been in up to this point? Her IMDB page has like ten things on it - none of which I've ever heard of - that isn't SW related. She's been on a handful of episodes of a couple different TV shows and in a few shorts. How she ever managed to get this gig is beyond me.

For as much of a performer as she is, they could have given the job to you or I and gotten a performance that is at least on par with the one she gave. (Not to say she wasn't doing her best, just that her best sucks.)

I don't know why, but there was someone else who had worse acting in that film. It was like she had one foot in the grave.

Sauce?

-Every time she was cheerful she just seemed annoying.
-Every time she was trying to look tough she just looked ugly.
-Her voice is much too deep for her frame, giving off a vaguely tranny vibe.
-Because of the way the film is written, nothing she got felt earned or deserved. Thus every time she succeeds instead of cheering for her, it feels like watching a spoiled child open her 100th present on Christmas morning.

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She deepthroated JJ's tiny Jewish pecker the best.

Couldn't they have filmed that together or something? I know the Lord of the Rings movies prided themselves on practical effects and traditional movie making techniques.

this tbh fam

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it's a badly written character and women don't understand or care about sci-fi schlock.


charismatic as hell.

independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/ian-mckellen-on-filming-the-hobbit-i-had-no-idea-what-i-was-doing-9905416.html

nme.com/news/film/ian-mckellen-filming-the-hobbit-made-me-cry-with-f-877575

Just two I found really quick.

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I have an answer. Just give me a moment.

But RLM told me that she is charismatic as hell!

If RLM told you to jump off the Bridge to the River Kwai would you do it too?

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When would RLM watch an old movie like Bridge Over the River Kwai? Their schedule is full with cuck porn and comic book movie reviews.

she bypassed the compressor.

you need a compressor otherwise your acting skill a shit.

You know there are some aspects to this story that could work if they wrote it better. Han is fond of Rey and might see her as a second chance at having a kid and being a better father. I don't think JJ intended this but it would be interesting.

Speaking of autism, look who entered the thread.

Actual Actor here and…pretty much.
In acting, a lot of people make the mistake of "WHO IS THIS CHARACTER" "WHO IS THIS MASK"

No, it's "Who am I today"…Daisy in this film obviously didn't know this role. I compare her to Finn. though finn lacks obvious (through these films he should have been more like Drax questioning social norms etc) the actor actually acts like a normal person would. Instead of answering a question by sweeping his hand about and yelling "ACTIIIIING….I….AM….FINN, YOU ARE WRONG" he simply goes "yeah?" he answers like a human.

Daisy? No. she answers like she's wearing a mask not that she IS that character but rather she is "ACTING" and we should know she is "ACTING" as opposed to, y'know, being in the moment. There is a reason why those who improv and play themselves do well as opposed to those who scream their lines.

"I want Annie from The Phantom Menace to be my tradwife. I'll be his boipusy slave.
- YouthSeeker

I am a five class king of Holla Forums.
Bow to me.

Ooh, an actual actor. I don't think I've seen an actor come to Holla Forums before. What kind of acting do you do? Plays? Small films? What kind of experience do you have?

Sarcasm? It's literally what I do for a living that's all I bring it up for….


Musicals and Theater.
I've done Wicked, Les Mis, Rocky Horror, Book or Mormon Avenue Q, The King and I, Matilda, Mulan, a lot of kids theater, lots of independant plays including a musical version of Friday the 13th. Australian based. Name is Courtney.
….AMA?

I wasn't being sarcastic though I was genuinely curious. Thanks for telling me that Courtney.

Oh sorry hard to tell!
Have a happy new year! :3

Its ok. Thank you and have a happy new year too!

I can explain it visually.

Wrong!
MY comic explains it.

Long shot but
…Courtney Adele Blanc?

Please stop ruining Bugs you bastard.

not as good as this one.

Just based on that alone is why Daisy Ridley is a superior actor. Only new actors understand the "technical" know-how of having to interact with inhuman replacements. In the future, actors will have to go beyond the human element. You know what I would say if I was on the set that day with Mckellen, "Get with the times grampsandalf!"

gtg


TS, literally look at Fassbender compared to Daisy. He is method. She is not.

Buttseeker, It truly is honorable of you to try and follow swami's footsteps. Holla Forums really needed a dedicated shitposter you can easily identify.

How am I easy to identify when LITERALLY EVERYONE impersonates me? Besides I feel like Killroy most days…

The only legit TruthSeeker is the one with the trip. I bet he's killed himself now after so many people impersonated him and all he wanted to do is seek the truth and spread his knowledge and wisdom. Poor little fella.

*sigh* I've said this MANY times.
I would NEVER get a trip because then people could filter me.


I don't always use my name. You'll know me by my style of posting.

I wish people would learn this.
Also 'little fella' nice try. You're Grant aren't you?

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Then you are not me. Simple. Easy. True.
Truth.

Seeker.

do you have four panels about Barbara Sobel and DJ "Nice Guy" Eddie Cabot?

I seek only the truth so tell me and I'll make a comic. It's New Years after all.

Convenient how it seems stuffed up your own ass.

Sorry that I'm objective? Sorry that you suffer from cognitive dissonance? Sorry lel, don't know what to say :^)

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obvious fake. tits are too big

loved you in Spring Awakening btw

>>>/reddit/

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She's so fucking hideous. Jesus Christ.

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I thought she was a Jap from the thumbnail. mainly because of the uniforms probably - no Asians have eyes that big. there's her with chinky eyes though

She sounds like she's faking her own accent. She's British, and she sounds like an American putting on a funny accent. That takes skill.

Reminder she has a smegma disease.

here's a much better example of eyebrow acting

youtube.com/watch?v=cA9vLK1VllA

Never ever.

I'm less worried about the eyes and more with the manjaw. No woman should have a jaw that big.

Her best role.

Her head is so big compared to the rest of her body.

I still think she's cute. She's just a cute sectoid

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"She" (possibly a he) must have some kind of disorder… autism at least.

I can't believe this is what passes for a good looking actress…. one that has manish characteristics and some sort of 'tism.

Confirmed imposter.

That shit is all the rage these days, we even elected one. She acted that way because being passive while presenting an illusion of strength is popular.

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Obama's almost gone

your mother doesn't love you.

How do you deepthroat something that won't even get past your molars?

She can open her mouth really wide.

Go cry in a shit thread, this one is actually entertaining.


Like a snake I bet.

I'm going to guess she's never taken any actual acting classes before. The woman's facial expressions are the equivalent of BRIAN BLESSED'S acting.

Seriously, it is RARE to see facial acting this freaking ridiculous.

good actors can do it. it's literally all they're supposed to do, fucking act like there's something there.

That's exactly what I said.

Yes, but it's easier on the director to simply sit on his chair and tell the actor to go to this fucking greenish hell and pretend he's talking to other actors.

To be fair WB already ruined Bugs Bunny beyond repair. Of course you should all stop replying to this autistic namefag in the first place.

Man, fuck you. He's classically trained and while yes he only really does one character he's fucking awesome at it.

Name one project he was involved in that wouldn't be worse without him.

But if they pulled the mask off, would you die?

theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/apr/09/brian-blessed-actor-interview

Hey, wasn't trying to talk shit about Blessed. Even at his worst he's fun to watch.

What I'm saying is that Daisy makes facial expressions in the same vein, but while it worked for Blessed it just makes Daisy look constipated.

^ That said, not hard to see how it looked like I was badmouthing Blessed. Sorry about that.

I'm actually going to answer this one seriously

IF you're Daisy Ridley, yes.

IF you're an actor, no.

It's pure kino but master of surprise got it right "Become anudda person become anudda person" If you're a method actor you know you're "becoming" that character and thus ARE that character…for a time. It's sort of like inhabiting somebodies body.

When Christopher Lee played Dracula, he fused his person with his assumption of the character Dragula and became the hybrid form. He was no longer Lee, and he was not Stroker's Dracula but he was HIS dracula which was a fusion of the two to CREATE a new identity.

Now take Seth Rogan. In what film does Seth Rogan not play Seth Rogan? In what film is Daisy Ridley not entirely being "rey" aka "I AM ACTING AS REY, DO YOU SEE THIS?"

Once Daisy takes off the mask of Rey, Rey dies and Daisy continues.

Once Anthony Hopkins takes off the mask of Lector, Lector remains a little part of him forevermore and he a part of Lector.

In other words, If you're an actor….It would be extremely painful.

This is why I try not to idolize celebrities.

Far as I can figure Daisy wasn't acting, but was pretending really, really hard to act. I've seen porn stars perform better for less money.

Star Wars was never that great in terms of acting, but Daisy and the nigger take it to a whole new level of shit. I still can't fucking figure out how she got the role. She's not Jewish, and there has to be a hundred thousand dopey, ugly, flat cunts with brown eyes and brown hair in Hollywood looking to be actresses.

Yes that's my point, she wants people to know that she is acting. She isn't acting but rather is showing everybody she is. That's what I mean by the mask. You don't just put on a mask and become a character, there's more to it than that but she's not Rey in the movie, she's Daisy Ridley as Rey.


She got the role because she's a plain jane, pure and simple. I'm…I wouldn't say a beautiful woman, but I'm interesting. I know I won't ever get a job in hollywood (nor would I ever want one) but they are terrified of women who aren't bland, boring and have nothing that could offend anybody. The girl who plays the candlestick is another example of "Brown but not TOO different"

Okay, I get that part, but why her? Surely there's a shitload of other women that are just as forgettable as her that can act better.

Isn't interesting a good thing though? Having a face one remembers seems to be to be far more important for an actor that simply hitting all the beauty criteria.

But why? Why are the Jews against pretty women? Are they all gay and don't want to defile gentile women?

They all seem interchangeable. Not too tall, plain looking but not really ugly, just forgettable, shitty brown hair, brown eyes, no tits, hips or ass. You could put a cardboard cutout in their place and it would be the same.

At least with the "male power fantasy" you can always tell the difference between Schwarzenegger, Stallone or Van Damme.

Because it doesn't offend anyone, that's literally why. She's inoffensive. She's…a gray blob that the female audience can paint themself upon.

As for being interesting, It sure as hell used to be but since I look like Julie Borowski if she had breasts it means that I'll offend none-busty women. Because I'm blonde I could be accused of being an aryan. Because I'm not a feminist then that pisses off the feminists. Because I'm conservative that means that I piss off the demos. etc etc etc.

Daisy is mush like Chris Pratt is mush for men to paint themselves on.

Read the Talmud and basic kabbalah stuff ;)
They don't like beauty and they like to make bank, in this day and age it's all about boycotts but they ARE learning from things like Ghostbusters.

Oh I agree entirely and you can also have people who are badass but not muscled up like DeNiro, Eastwood and Moseley.

The entire model is based on being progressive, inoffensive and as close to a blank amorphous state as possible.

The REAL gays actually love beautiful women, that's why I'm in theatre and why I get roles in musicals but would never get cast in a film in current year. That and I like singing

HACK THE PLANET

They used trick photography and forced perspective in the LotR trilogy; that image is from the Hobbit, where they used greenscreen instead.

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WRONG
WRONG

WRONG

THE JEDI ECOMPASSED EVERYTHING RIGHT, THE REBELS DID BETTER WITH MON MOTHMA AND WHAT NOT BUT TO SAY THEY WERE THE EVIL ONES MISSES THE ENTIRE POINT

THE LIGHTSSABER ISNT A DEADLY WEAPON IT IS AN ARTPICE THAT REFLEFCTS A JEDIS FUCKING SPIRIT IF YOU KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT STAR WARS YOUD KNOW THAT BUT YES IT IS ALSO A TOOL AND YES IT IS ALSO A WEAPON!!

ALSO YEAH, THEY DO BECAUSE THEY ARE PASSIVISTS JUST LIKE FUCKING LENNIN WOULD BE IN A COMMUNIST SOCIETY THE JEDI WERE EQUALISTS JUST LIKE THE WAY IT SHOULDVE FUCKING BEEN AND THE EMPIRE WERE LITEREAL XENOPHOBIC PICES OF SHIT DO YOU EVEN KNOW OUTBOUND FLIGHT? DO YOU EVEN WATCH REBELS?!?


ALSO YODA WOULDNT SAY "REMEMBER THE JEDI 6 MILLION" HE'D KNOW THAT THE WAY HE TAUGHT THE JEDI TO SUPPRESS THEIR EMOTIONS WASNT THE RIGHT WAY TO GO FOR IT HE FOUND OUT LIKE MANY OF US THAT THE HUMAN ELEMNT NEEDS TO BE ERADICATED BUT HE DID IT IN THE WRONG WAY, THE FUCKING JEDI IN KOTOR 2 HAD A BETTER IDEA DO NOT AKE THE "REPUBLIC" AS ACTUAL JEDI

FUCK YOU

Which is it?

IT'S LITERALLY LIKE THE HAMMER AND SICKLE

YOU CVAN USE THEM AS WEAPONS BUT PRIMARILY THEY ARE TOOLS, THE JEDI USE THEM TO OPEN DOORS, TO BE INTUNE WITH THEIR OWN SENSE OF SPIRIT AND AS A SIGN THAT THEY ARE FOLLOWERS OF THE FORCE ITS WHY EVERY SABER IS UNIQUE BUT YOU'D KNOW THIS IF YOU FUUCKCING UNDERSTOOD

AHHHH I'M SO FUCKING PISSED AT THE IGNORANCE >_

Why did they have a hierarchy? Why were there Jedi Knights and Jedi Masters? Why was there a ruling council?

THEY HAD A COUNCIL A COUNCIL NOT RULING THEY MADE NO RULES THEY JUST ENSURED THE CODE WORKED

This was present in MANY socialist countries in which you have a group of people who ADVISE and STEER the party but are no better than others. This is why the council are ENTIRELY democratic on decisions because at the time of the republic they were DEMOCRATIC THEOTASTIC SOCIALISTS

In KOTOR II THEY WERE CLOSER TO ACTUAL JEDI BUT AGAIN, the two systems weren't practicing true equality TRUE but that was because of the environment they were in. It's like blaming africans for not having mega cities while whites do. THE JEDI COULD BE GREAT BUT PEOPLE KEEP FUCKING IT UP

If they let the FORCE rule they'd actually succeed, if they let the FORCE do it they'd be TRUE Jedi but unfortunately people like Revan, People like Anakin, People lik eth e republic and Sheev exist.

Is you saying….

THIS WASN'T REAL JEDI

If the Jedi did everything right, how come they were killed off?

-_- Again, because OTHERS interfered also they didn't, they get culled much like jewish folks and ALWAYS return. Obi-Wan's line about Tuskens could be attributed to the Jedi.

Just so you know though I'm not even on the Jedis side. Darth Krayt is my favourite characters though Darth Caedus I've always related with the most.

It's not a true culling if there's survivors. Almost as if it's a lie.

…Order 66 happened in canon, like, that happened. O_o

Wait a second, is this even the real TruthSeeker? Could be a fake.

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Do you want me to make a fucking comic?
Cause I'll make a fucking comic. I am not a fake.

There were survivors. Order 66 was to execute all of them. Since some lived, Order 66 was not completed.

…What's your point? Some jews survived the holocaust?

Well, made a comic, and you haven't yet. I think he's the real one.

HE ISN'T I WOULDN'T BE THAT STUPID

GIVE ME A FUCKING MINUTE

Yeah, some survived an event that didn't happen. What do Jews have to do with Star Wars?

…Order 66 DID HAPPEN THOUGH @_@
I'm saying the JedIi are a lot like the jewish people in the fact that whenever they get power people get triggered and kill them.

Darth Krayt's order imo is the perfect one.

But what about the Holocaust?

WHAT DOES IT HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING!?

The Jedi never tried to exterminate the people who they leeched off.

So retarded.

????

You keep bringing up the Holocaust, but that was a lie.

…What????

The Jews had ambitions of destroying many of the European races. The Jedi were benign and actually contributed to society.

Where's the comic you said you'd make? You haven't. Clearly, the real TruthSeeker is

No they didn't Holla Forums -_-

Also, The Jewish people do too, so what are you saying?

Why not blame the director? It's his job to TELL them how to act and keep doing it till it's what he wants. The actors are just meat puppets.

Read some history, m8. The Jewish parasites always had the racemixing agenda. And kikes have contributed exactly nothing besides usury, fecesbook and subversive propaganda.

I'VE READ MORE HISTORY THAN YOU
HAVE YOU LISTENED TO DENNIS PRAGER? READ THE DOCUMENTS? WHY DID THE NAZIS CONFESS THEN? WHY WHEN AUCHWITZ WAS BROUGHT UP HITLER SAID YES? NAME ONE FUCKING THING THE SUPPOSED DA JOOZ HAVE DONE TO YOU PERSONALLY. NONE

This one time a Jew tried to suck my blood, true story. The confessions were forced, evidence fabricated. There were no gas chambers, no Jewish soap, no ovens.

Jew took my foreskin. Fucking Jew doctor.

My condolences for your penis.

Bullshit Holla Forums. When? Huh? When did they "try to suck your blood" schitzo?

No they weren't, why confess in COURT to something they fucking weren't even feeling GUILTY for?

There were. Auchwitz. Treblinka.

There was no Soap but there WERE Ovens.


It's cleaner that way though, that wasn't jews that was medical practitioneers.

It's the loss of tens of thousands of nerve endings
Like I said, fucking Jews taking it and selling it to make facial creams.

You call that a comic? One panel has nothing but text! That's Buckley-tier.

Wow Holla Forums….just wow. No. they don't take foreskin and make it into facial creams -_-


I only realised when I posted it, I put it in the archive fixed.

For baking bread.
Tortured, held at gunpoint and having their families threatened.
When I was a kid I cut myself in school and my Jewish teacher tried to suck on the wound.

bostonmagazine.com/health/blog/2015/04/14/baby-foreskin-facial-boston-hydrafacial/

Yeah JEWISH bread
[Citation Needed]
Come on.


Fake news but fine, I'll read it.
Actually I'll tell you what. I'll give you this.

5 articles or documentaries.
Give me 5. I'll make a comic in response to each but I WILL read them just to prove the point.

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How about you address the fact that baby foreskins are used in facial cream?

scientificamerican.com/article/a-cut-above-the-rest-wrin/

I am reading it. It seems more like a "They use Whale vomit xD" sort of thing.

Can't be arsed but it's well documented that the allies basically crushed their balls and other shit to make them play ball.
It was a true story, you asked what they have done to me personally and I responded. They also fucked with my credit rating.

I challenge you to the same thing.

5 articles or documentaries, I will watch, review and report back. How would you """"red"""" (aka nazi) pill me?

You'll have a hard time convincing me that the Soviets, well-known choir boys that they were, extracted false confessions from people.

There really were millions of people supporting Trotsky in the 30s, and they were doing it by showing up late for work.

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Huh?

What did she mean by this?


Happy new year!


Well, why not her?
If some other plain jane had went in and had been chosen, would you be asking the same question? probably yes.

It was equally the fault of the dogshit writing that made the characters fucking suck. Funny that everyone gave Lucas the stick for his autistic, cheesy writing, but now we're stuck with getting the generic Hollywood trash-mill writing, complete with invincible stronk protag.
I'm so sorry George; you never know what you've got 'till it's gone.

He's too old to fly to the settings. Dude's around 90 years old.

For all the shit we get for being white supremacists internet posters, the niggers actors be it in Star Wars or Ghostbuster are actually the only ones that feel and act ok (because the jews writing their roles are actually the biggest racists… so they cast them for stereotypical black people roles. There are two black roles in Hollywood: "funny nogging nigger" and "wise old black man". Three if you count "brave red shirt").

The way you described yourself reminds me of that blonde conservative chick on youtube. She does belly dancing and can balance a sword on her head I forget her name though.

Is the Zohn thing a reference to Timothy Zahn?

So the secret is that it needs to be George Lucas's story with a talented director to reign in the autism and charismatic actors to make it all work.

When I think back on the original trilogy, maybe 80% of why it worked is Harrison Ford. He stole all the scenes, he had all the really good ideas, he was just an extremely likable scoundrel. "Hey, who you callin' scruffy?" "Maybe you need a few scoundrels in your life." "I… know." "I don't care what it smells like!"

Part of what made it work so well was that he came off as a selfish jerk, but his relationship with Chewy told us immediately that he wasn't, because Chewy was so lovable and if he gave him shit there's no way he'd be breathing. We cared about the ending of the third one in large part because everyone's favorite character was in peril.

Does anyone actually give a shit if Finn's spine is repaired or Rey comes back?

Yeah, thats the thing with this film the characters don't feel that fleshed out. Even though people keep telling me are the only one that seems somewhat interesting is Kylo Ren.

Harrison Ford is one of the few guys who could tell Lucas his dialogue was shit. By the prequels everybody was afraid to do that. We know people like Ewan Macgregor are good actors, but in the prequels their dialogue is shitty.

Lucas needs help with portraying personal relations because he's an autistic android. Hamill, Fisher, and especially Ford would tell him this.

With TFA the problem is it's like the Star Trek film. Everybody makes Abrams quips and just runs from place to place. Ford doesn't give a shit by the time he's in TFA, Fisher just wanted cocaine before she died, and Hamill has a three second appearance.

go fuck yourself sideways

the last thing a fucking producer needs is his actors telling him the script they were hired to fucking recite, with feeling, is bad.

thats what a fucking director is for - to smooth over hurt feelings and serve as an interpreter between dick and cunt. george lucas fucked up the franchise all the way back in 1992 when he decided to add more explosions and shit and release a box set with a 300% markup. you fucking kids with your prequel arguments dont have a fucking clue

Why would a woman be conservative?

Hi George.

Because she's getting fucked by a man who keeps her in line.

Disagreed. Watching Lucas' non-Star-Wars stuff like American Graffiti, it's pretty obvious that he can write good dialogue and interactions when he's trying, but with Star Wars, he wasn't trying for dialogue like that. He was trying for ye-olde-fashioned dialogue which sounds cringy to modern audiences, and part of why Star Wars kinda works is because it fuses old ideas with modern sensibilities. If you go too far in either direction, you'll lose what makes the franchise good.

Considering that Star Wars is her first major movie, it would be kinda difficult to find an example.

I suppose interviews are legitimate enough, though in them she comes across as even more annoying than as Rey.


What's so bad about disliking Trump? He sucks Jew cock like the rest of them, he just dropped a few non-PC lines here and there and now people wanna suck his dick and go along with more kike pozz like invading Iran, now under the pretext of "muh god empra".

Ah, I forgot, this is co-opted-chan now.

Now take Seth Rogan. In what film does Seth Rogan not play Seth Rogan?

But he's shit.

Jokes on you I've been single for 6 years!

University males never ever

Why do they even do that? Has green screen technology not gotten to the point where you can have all the actors out directly on the green screen?

Revan did literally nothing wrong you cuck

Fucking THIS.

Nerds and manlets love Rey because she is actually attainable to them. She's that 5.2/10 skinny chick they sat behind in algebra class who everyone else finds annoying and repellent but who they think is quirky and cute. So they orbit around her long enough until they can make out with her when she is drunk and just got rejected by Chad.

They are the same types who complain about "female exploitation" when an attractive actress wears clothes that display her femininity when they're really angry that they will never have chance with any close to her. Rey is something that gives them false hope, hence why she is now every bearded hipster normalfag's waifu.

I suspect there's also probably some femdom angle to it too, having to do with being able to be beaten up by a strong empowered woman.

It still cracks me up that you can clearly see the nog having to slow down twice while acting that he's struggling to keep up with Daisy Ridley, sprinting with all her wymyn might.

n…no

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I completely forgot that Finn was apparently killed or something.

But she's not at all convincing as le stronk empowered womyn. Which is disastrous because this is a franchise with fantasy space wizards i.e. a scenario where you can have a woman be a stop-tier fighter and it not break suspension of disbelief.

You forgot your trip Truthseeker.

Don't fall asleep, I'm going to find you and I'm going to rip open your ass with communism

Daily reminder that she has tons of smegma on her pussy and ass as a result of her disease.

The dialogue in the prequels seemed pretty decent to me given that it was meant to be an older time in history (relatively speaking) and act as the epic fantasy back story to the original trilogy where things were more grounded.

Looking back, a big strength in the prequels is just the fact they throw in so many different fantasy cultures which helped to make the worlds in the movie to feel more real.

So the setting and the dialogue seem like the few decent things at work.

The problem was more that Lucas wanted to hit upon so many different stories at the same time that things got scattered. In retrospect, he should have tried limiting the number of things he'd attempt to reference from the original movies since it was only really necessary to follow the story of Anakin rather than try progressing the stories of a dozen other side characters.

It all makes the mistakes in Rogue One and episode 8 all the more egregious, since they had the ability to look back on what worked in the prequels and what didn't.

It seems so pathetic that they did next to no world building throughout episode 8.

I liked the large and rich cast of the prequels, they were a natural part of the enlarged scope I think. It never felt too fan servicey either but the characters felt like a natural part of the grander narrative. Even smaller characters like young Boba Fett are almost poetic with how they resonate with their OT roles.

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JESUS FUCKING CHRIST THOSE FUCKING TEETH
WHY THE FUCK DOES SHE HAVE TO SMILE LIKE A FUCKING ALIEN WITH THOSE GOOGLY FUCKING EYES FUCK SHE GIVES ME THE CREEPS
0/10 WOULD NOT ASK FOR BLOWJOB

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Not this shit again.

The use of greenscreen was entirely appropriate for this scene. Forced perspective and trick photography works if you have one character you need to shrink down, but not if you have fourteen.

Fuck you for making me defend the fucking Hobbit.

Indeed. Discussion shots like in the LoTR movies would look ridiculous with the backs of 13 midgets/children in wigs everytime Gandalf speaks.

Fuck you. They were terrible movies.

They did have decent dialogue and good world building, but the movies themselves still sucked because the story was ass.

The value of the world building can be seen in the animated series that was done, which depended almost entirely on things introduced even just as snippets in the movies.

The more recent attempts to continue the movie series could have done much better had they tried doing just a fraction of that world building. Like TFA had planets get fucking destroyed which were just nameless and had no meaning to the viewer. It wouldn't have been that hard to make some side character from one of those planets who then has to witness it being destroyed so you could see their grief and empathize with them to some degree over it.


The number of characters could have worked, but it seemed like Lucas wanted to build up the story to each and every character, which took away too much focus from the story of Anakin. In Episode I's case it could have just focused entirely on Obi Wan since he'd be the mentor to Anakin later in the movie series. If it focused on a single character like that it would have helped to give the movie more direction for where it should be going at any given time. Because of the lack of direction you don't really feel like you're getting to know any of the characters and the movie feels like a big mish mash of different stories that don't really go together.

Didn't they actually do that for scenes like when they're setting up the fellowship of the ring thing in elfy land?

Why focus on Obi Wan rather than Anakin?

He's an idiot who doesn't understand that the prequels are entirely about Anakin, and that Obi-Wan is nothing more than a supporting character

how do I know you're an actual actor and not just pretending to be an actor?

My super SJW brother and I watched them together and we both agreed all the obi-wan scenes? Great. All the Anakin scenes? gay.

I think Obi-Wans story would be better as say, K'Kruhk's or Quinlan Vos, but all in all every scene with Obi-Wan? Fine. All others? Fuck right off.


ALlaHU TRUTHSEEKER

>>>/reddit/
The prequels were kinos, stop posting RLM memes.

If by "kino" you mean "absolute dogshit that ruined Star Wars so hard, Lucas had to sell it to the Jews and look what happened next", the sure.

Had to? Star Wars was still very profitable and the prequels weren't commercial flops. The reason he sold it was because he didn't want to fire all those talented people he had hired because there was nothing for them to do and to piss off people like you.
Only for you, Mike. The prequels expanded Star Wars and gave it life beyond the very limited OT.

REMINDER

Is this a meme? I know this is Holla Forums, but I can't remember this happening. Was the movie really THAT forgettable?

I know the spic was supposed to die, but they kept him because DIVERSITY or some shit.

Well, at least there won't be any muh diking with token in a wheelchair.

Finn is gonna be gay, fam. And so is Luke. I'm nto even joking, Luke is gonna get BLACKED. It will be really progressive.

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Because Anakin did nothing that significant in the first movie, so movie could have just been about Obi Wan and help give him characterization for later Episode 2/3 to explain why he'd want to raise Anakin or deal with him in any way.

Also Obi Wan is the only one that really is involved in the majority of the story, so if you wanted to cut out the chaff then he's most sensible one to focus the movie on.

Finn loses the fight with Kylo, and it ends with Kylo slicing his lightsaber up his back, Finn unconscious in the snow.

Then Rey summons the lightsaber and they fight. The next time we see Finn he's laying on a table in the -rebel- OOP, I mean "RESISTANCE" base unconscious. The whole shot seemed kind of weird to me, why is this operating or healing table or whatever out in the open in their strategy room? You'd think they'd have a medbay or something. I'd imagine crowds of people discussing death weapons capable of disintegrating solar systems wouldn't be terribly conducive to recovery.

I completely forgot the nigger lost. Holy shit the movie really is forgettable trash.

How long was it since you watched the prequels? Major shit happens with Anakin and Obi-Wan is given a lot of characterisation. Qui-Gon is more or less the protagonist though, he's portrayed as a Jedi without a stick up his ass and unlike the strict council is more ideal, Obi-Wan is shown to be more like the council and arrogant, which eventually leads to Anakin's fall when he is forced to take him up as an apprentice when Qui-Gon dies. There's a ton of setup for future events for Anakin too.

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Not only did the prequels have very varied locations but they were incredibly thematically relevant to the story being told all of the time.

I know Star Wars is "science" fantasy but a lava planet would have no breathable air.

Kino Wars

You live on a lava planet.

reported for sexism, she was perfect.

reported for ableism. she was imperfect.

But is that taking midichlorians into account?

It's a mythological motif, it's not science fiction.

I remember reading the Scholastic Book for Episode 3. Essentially it explains that the native race of people to Mustafar are insect like and ride upon giant fleas. Not sure if that makes sense but hoped that helped.

John boyega is based

Would it have improved the Vader mythos if Obi-Wan had been the protagonist and Anakin a side character? Then his turn to the dark side is less in view and slightly more in the realm of imagination since he's removed from the viewer.

He's pretty good at pretending to be asmathic, sweaty and looking like he's just stolen a watermelon and that cops are near but I think Mark Hamill is superior. He had more range in those few seconds of screen time than any other actor in the cast.

Holla Forums here and I FUCKING agree
He and Poe. That's it. That's all I gave a shit about in the movie. I was actually hoping he WOULD be a Jedi as my Jedi Academy character was black and looked like him

I liked Poe.


You know I never thought of it like that. Normally, I would have preferred if it focused on Anakin as a good yet flawed hero and show his descent into the darkside with good intentions or something. I guess your idea could work too.

Just like it happened in the prequels, then?

I guess except the dialogue for the romance handled better and just star with Anakin as a teenager rather than a kid.

I want all niggers to hang.

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The romance was an attempt at an old romance, chivalry and courtly love and that stuff, it wasn't supposed to be a realistic portrayal of a dick juice masseuse seducing a young boy and stealing his precious bodily fluids. I also think the age was fine, if he had been older he would have been more independent and leaving his mother wouldn't have been such a big deal for him.

There's also another issue with this scene: she shows some feelings towards him, it goes against her personality. In the beginning she even says "stop holding my hand" or something like that because she's a strong and independent young woman from Jakku.

The constant mouth breathing and gaping eyeballs didn't tip you off? Wow, so hypothetically imagine a situation where the shit that was happening was going on with real people. Do you want a confident character to always be spazzing out the same way these assholes were? No, you want some subtlety. A period of time where they are dealing with the excitement in an a non-full blast mode.

A war movie tends to show this, like things are going tits up and its just something they are already in the process of dealing with.

Look, people give Anakin hayden version shit for being a whiny cunt but now it was obvious TFA how over the top bad it was. Not just rey but anyone with some story focus.

Im surprised they didn't get Mark Hamil to also ham it up at the last second.

the best of the series, ESB is so because it was george's story, but someone else was directing.

george needs to do the story, but he must not direct. I don't know what you call it, but that seems to be the winning formula

like you said just one way of sounding "commanding" is to "change your voice"
This didn't work for her. She has no charisma or gravitas and is a bad actor. A good actor can be commanding with just a killer look. She can't do any of the above so she just relies on drama class 101. The real reason why she is a bad actor is because she cannot characterize and develop a new personality. She is just daisy ridley playing rey she isn't actually a character named rey.

yea but no
There was a time and a place for george lucas. He doesn't even understand why people liked his original movies.

>>>/reddit/
He's a masterful director, his films look miles above what anyone else shits out in America.

How about you shut up until you've actually been in a production? The actor is just as important as the director, they can make a character better in ways the director might never have thought of.
Oy vey, and I'm not even a professional.

yea definitely
in fact one could say the actors and the editing is the most important part of filmmaking. You can make good movies bad and bad movies good depending on the editing and acting.

She's just being tsundere :^)

She offended the shit out of me for being a mary sue in a star wars movie.


Lots of people made Star Wars great. It wasn't George Lucas who made a masterpiece. It was George Lucas and several other people who all played massive roles in making it what it was.


JJ Abrams is the same guy who had LEIA IGNORE CHEWIE COMPLETELY FOR SOME RANDOM BITCH!
By the time they worked on these scenes, they must have been fucked up and stressed as hell.
Or they were just hacks. Either way that one scene was unforgivable.

Oh no you don't, Star Wars was always George's baby, he's the auteur. Marcia was a pretty good editor but she wasn't the creative force behind the films.

The film was saved in editing.

So? The rest of the films weren't.

You mean the ones not directed by Lucas?

The prequels were directed by Lucas.

Yea, the shit ones.

The kinos.

They didn't need to be saved in editing. You RLM drones are always so insistent about hating the creator of the thing you love that you forget that he's the one who came up with it. Yes, ANH was a bit of a mess but so what? Even if it needed editing it was still great stuff. Sure people contributed, Ralph McQuarrie for example provided the great art direction and so on but the man behind the films were always George.

Redditors also always say the like ESB the most just to spite Lucas but the truth is that even though he wasn't directing he was super involved as a producer in every film.

You clearly don't understand. There never was a "man behind the film." There was a combination of extreme talent of people that could strenghen each other and cover for each others flaws.

Wrong. Films need a singular vision, sometimes that is created by committee, sometimes that's something a group came up with but in the case of Star Wars it was George who had that vision. George wrote, directed and produced it. It was George that wanted McQuarrie and so forth. What you're doing is akin to attributing the success of a writer solely or equally to his editor.

Also, Attack of the Clones is the best of the Star Wars films.

Seriously, how can you even like Star Wars and hate George? How much doublethink is required for that?

weird way of spelling the phantom menace

Yes, Obi-Wan should have been the main character. As it stands TPM has no main character, Attack of the Clones has 2 and they aren't even together for 95% of the movie, and Revenge of the Sith improves upon this moderately to give us a mediocre movie.

Even if you don't agree with everything in the embed Obi-Wan should still have been the main character.

If you took out Mike's dick out of your mouth long enough to get oxygen to your brain you'd realize this isn't true.

How come he didn't come back as a force ghost? How come none of the jedi did except yoda, anakin, and obi-wan?

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I actually have to question if she even has THAT much going for her. I'd figure 101 would have you work on facial expressions so you don't eat scenery with your face like Daisy did in this thing.

In Episode 8 he will be in a gay interracial relationship with the Hispanic.

Found the scene.

They have a hug after bonding in broship. Only retarded gays(Holla Forums) and girls are squealing about this.

Didn't he appear in a Yoda episode of TCW?

The whole scene is just gay and so are you for defending it.

Nah, man, it's a brohug.
I'd have liked to see a movie where Poe+Finn go on adventures to get to safety with the Empire on their toes

We need more bro-ships in movies.

He did, just offscreen in the film (there was planned to be a scene where Qui-Gon contacted Yoda and taught him how to become a ghost but it got cut) but did make an appearance in the Clone Wars thingy.

THERE'S ALREADY A THREAD ABOUT THIS YOU STUPID FUX

Can you not read dates or something?

He's being a retard ironically.

No chance in hell Yahtzee would say something like that today.

Yes he did. He showed Yoda how to become a force ghost.

Tumblr are the people who started squealing about them being gay, and the actor who played Poe jumped all over it.

Holla Forums thought it was funny that Boyega was obviously pissed about this but can't say anything.

well thats a shame. Poe's actor was wearing an Atlas Shrugged shirt once and tumblr got pissed. Still, tumblr are the same kind of people that would put Frodo and Sam as a gay couple rather than understanding a friendship between two men who've been through hell and back.

Is the trend of hiring ugly actors an union/guild thing or a choice to not alienate women by showing someone prettier than them?

As long as it's not a white girl…

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gtfo, traitor.

lol


trumpkike detected

no u

You're doing it wrong.

You're doing it wrong, think in 20 years you can have like a Fritzl thing going on.

if by the original trilogy being "limited" you mean grounded in a deeply resonant, universal, perennial core mythology then I totally agree and if by the prequels "expanding" all of that you mean codified the notion that Star Wars doesn't have to bear witness to metaphysical truths like so many of the worlds great wisdom traditions across the ages; that it indeed can be awkward, confusing, indulgent, pedantic and meaningless like the worst sci-fi and super hero fiction, then i'm with you 1138% user.

I want to feed Natalie Portman my midichlorians.

Back to tumblr with you.

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In the next few movies she's literally gonna be chopping up stupid, incompetent men. How empowering.

I'm still hoping they go for that whole KOTOR thing where she turns evil like Bastilla Shan due to her arrogance.

Her face has symnetry, I…guess

the problem with making anyone other than luke the protagonist in the prequels or sequels is that at this point, luke's journey is the only thing that gives anything that happens any meaning. A "struggle between darkness and light" is too abstract to carry the entire franchise. I dont think a prequel trilogy that is supposed to plug into the original trilogy was ever going to work.

If the only thing anchoring this nerd shit is Luke and his 'hero's journey' then the main films start there and end with him returning home as a wizard and the dirty secret of Star Wars is that Joseph Campbell's monomyth IS the only thing anchoring it. Lucas figured that out after failing with the prequels and chose to sell it since he realized it was going to suck no matter who continued the franchise.


I'm curious how they're going to handle her training. Will we get a montage? My guess is we go straight from her handing old white Luke his dick back at the end of the force awakens to her being fully trained with only references in dialogue to her adventures as a padawan (similar to the opening of Attack of the Clones [trust me… it sorta rhymes…]. My guess is that unlike Anakin, Rey fully surpases her "master" in the next film, though, and we see her at least once rescuing old broken-down Luke from trouble because… girls dont need men.

The second movie is going to be a lead balloon.

Rey already completed Luke's arch - she confronted the Dark Apprentice, defeated him, resisted the dark side and spared his life. She's already a Jedi.

For the prequels could they have done some villain equivalent to the hero's journey? Like one falling to darkness like Paradise Lost or something?

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>>>/sudo/

The Hero's Journey is shit. Good writers should stay away from that nonsense.

In my personal opinion the whole love aspect of it was what fucked up the story. Anakin would've been a lot better if he was seduced by the Darkside not because he wanted to bed a wench but because he wanted to protect his FAMILY.

BTFO memecuck

No, because he based the core films on Luke. He could have done what Disney is doing and spun-off single-serving "anthology" stories but even then its probably a shit idea. Disney should be running Star Wars short films before every Disney-owned film, not continuing to produce feature films for theatrical release in a fictional universe for which the unifying mythology is complete. There is literally no point.

That's not to say that Star Wars stories can't be told or that they'll all be bad. It'll be a mixed bag, but the feature films will always leave the audience unsatisfied because they'll never resonate the way the original films did. Disney knew this going in (siths… er… i mean… myths are their speciality). So, they cynically decided to reboot the whole thing with the idea that they could just keep telling the hero's journey anew every 10 years and no one would notice because demographics and markets would change and a whole generation of kids would be seeing whatever the new star wars hero is for the first time. In a hundred years, they'll have a version of Star Wars telling the same basic story for a half a dozen or more "key demographics", with evil white male nazi villains in all of them.

To fight the blowback they hired JJ Abrams (siths… i mean… soft reboots are his speciality). Fortunately, he sucks and can barely hide his jew contempt for us goytards, which we all hope will doom the film plans. It's not looking good though… they may use that drunk old lady's death and the inevitable reworkings / reshoots to correct course since people are forgetting about these new films the way they forgot about JJ Abrams other failures with rebooting Star Trek. They aren't bad films, per se… it's just people literally forget about them as soon as they leave the theater… this can't be what Disney wants out of Star Wars.

Instead of feature films they should run shorts in theaters and also focus on other media. There are so many other mythologies that can be mined for Star Wars material.. Yes, Anakin's story has a mythological analog, it just should never have been haphazardly retroactively front-loaded on to Luke's story… which is the main story, like it or not.

Disney wants to poz and use Star Wars as a platform whilst pandering to China so much of this is likely to go unchanged. Lucas couldn't have done any better though. He was doomed by his commitment to continue producing Star Wars feature films whilst suffering an inability to conceive of anything bigger than Luke (and he finished telling that story long ago). You could argue that he could have turned to someone else to help with the story but it was probably too much for his ego to handle after Empire and Jedi. He needed to prove he could do it himself so he surrounded himself by 'yes men' and failed. So he moved-on to telling stories about flying niggers and burning bundles of cash for firewood after selling star wars. lucasfucks status: 0 given


you're shit and a confirmed shill. go be a post-modern faggot elsewhere.

This cancer is why all movies and tv suck. You are a dense uncreative faggot if you want to pretend you can manufacture creativity by following a formula.

Did not.

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idk user, you tell me. how is it that she knows about the millennium falcon and the kessel run (despite having never left jakku) but thinks the jedi are a myth?

…which is precisely what Lucas did. the reason why nubs like you instinctively recoil at the deconstruction / theorizing of plot structure is that you're young and ignorant. You haven't lived enough, read enough, seen enough to notice patterns for yourself all the while harboring notions that you could someday make a great film / write a great (probably graphic) novel / or create a great game. But, wot do? Well, you haven't a clue because you're a young faggot so you hold-up creativity as this vague woo woo mystical shit that cool visionaries manifest as fully-formed works of complete uniqueness and convince yourself you could apply it any time if you "wanted to". It's special snowflakes like you that are the reason millennials are complete cancer.

there is no such thing as art, you retard… only artistry which must be applied to structure or else you might as well shit in a mason jar, fill it with piss, and declare yourself the next . If you don't want to learn craft, that's fine, but admit you're ignorant with no sack instead of shitting on people with a more realistic, honest assessment. FYI, I never said all plots are the same. To my knowledge, nobody did. It's merely that of all the understood plot structures that one *can* follow, the monomyth / hero's journey plot is the most popular and it's the one Lucas followed. Get buttblasted at him, not me.


nobody sells their legacy to "white slavers" unless they believe they already failed it and the cash will afford them a new legacy. Unless you want to believe that they blackmailed him somehow, it just doesn't make sense.

In the prequels, to disastrous effect. The immaculate conception of Anakin remains a hamfisted act of pure stupidity.

Lucas didn't follow anything in the original trilogy except his own intuition, which is why people kept telling him to rewrite the damn thing.


The issue here is that you are the willing dupe of a con job. The 'hero of a thousand faces' nonsense is just cold-calling in literature. Take as an example the hero's conception: the hero is 1) an orphan, 2) conceived magically or mysteriously, 3) royalty, or 4) some combination of these 4.

This is similar to when a cold-caller tells you that your dead loved one died from something in the chest or head - that accounts for 99% of deaths. It's couched generalities that make you think it's approach is wondrous but it really is just a way of forcing every character to fit into its pattern.

There is such a thing as art. An argument over a word definition is stupidity.


Because if you read and are familiar with a theory, you have to agree with it, right?

The hero of a thousand faces theory encourages laziness in writers, because they start saying shit like, 'okay, now my MC needs a mentor' and 'okay, he needs a trip to the underworld.' You are constructing a plot based upon tropes instead of having the characters, lore, and universe interacting with each other dictate your plot. The end result is the derivative garbage which is shown on TV.


That's the point of the theory, retard. The Hero of a thousand faces - we retell the same story over and over and over.

She must suck dick REALLY well and probably take it in the pooper to get something like Star Wars as her first major role

And also 365 trillion people wouldn't have died if the Empire was still around

oh god what is all this fuck…? the implication that Lucas did not follow a formula for the original trilogy… the reddit spacing… the inability to count… someone halp.

Mai jakku
gotta go back to jakku
Jakku
ugly face
Jakku

Why are you sad angry?

This. Having them as gays would be so fucking shit and forced.


Also anybody else worried that Laurance Kasdan isn't involved in 8. I mean I wander how much he was involved in 7 a well.

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first kotor was shit
only the second is gud

This; Atris basically covers Bastilla's entire character and does it right, plus a whole lot more. Biowarean of me to want more romance I know, but an Atris romance would have been the most interesting given her infatuation with the Exile and her/the Exile's conflicting positions on the light/dark side dichotomy.

>Can't convey emotion even if a bus full of babies and kittens slowly rolled off a cliff before her eyes she'd still look shit while panicking and crying

Away from Rey and general crap from the movie:
>A New cheeki-breeki Hope: Digitally rehashed for ethnic minorities
>Questions are skillfully dodged Yeah right to leave something to put in that 100 page script for the next movie.

>MeXican wing.


Star Wars is dead and i look forward to the new threads on the next hot car crash of a Star Wars movie.

A jack of all trades is someone who can do everything but not any of those particularly well. Rey did everything very well in he movie, so she's not a jack of trades.