How will we be swinging Bernie backers over to Trump?
It's not good enough for them to just not vote.
How will we be swinging Bernie backers over to Trump?
It's not good enough for them to just not vote.
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Obviously the most effective tactic to at least get them listening is to get them hating on Hillary (they do) but where do we take it from there? What do they want that we can convince them Trump offers?
But we must - or at least that we respected him as a sincere person (like Trump, unlike Hillary)
Better question is, how do we meme Bernie into running third party and splitting the democratic vote?
Just go out and start astroturfing. Hillary shills are already working overtime to try and mop up the Bernie supporters that they screwed over by saying "we're all in this together to stop that bigoted Trump" and "I share a lot of views with Bernie" etc.
Get them to support jill stein.
That's probably too much to hope for
No.
Fuck off pinko.
Now THIS has promise.
He looks like someone's pedophile uncle.
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Oh right, how to do it… Seems easy enough.
Compile the hostility between Bernie and Hillary, and the dirt on the latter, and the dirt on the Democratic establishment, and present it in a manner suggesting neither the party establishment nor Hillary can be trusted to uphold progressive values, and that it'd be better to let Trump win, and thus prove progressives right by being a terrible president, than to bow to the Democratic establishment by supporting Hillary, thus requiring Bernie to run regardless of whether or not he gets the nomination.
Blow your brains out, marxist.
Easy.
- he's anti establishment
- while not free college he said he'd look into "fixing" college
- wants to charge corporations more taxes for doing shady shit
- is expressly noninterventionist [this is a big one for them]
Nice trips but he'll never do it. He's old enough and cagey enough to know that splitting the vote means failure for the democratic party. As much as he may be running against Clinton, he hates Trump more.
This, Jill Stein could become a "movement" like Perot was for the right, if she can get 10% of the vote it's a big win for us
No.
One vote away from Hillary but to Trump is a +2
One vote away from Hillary to Stein is a +1.
Kek clearly agrees with this proposition.
Sad thing about Bernie is, if it weren't for Trump throwing his hat in the rig the election cycle, Bernie would have had the strong position on immigration out of every candidate on the Republican side, all 30 of them.
How sad is it that a literal socialist Jew opposes immigration more than 30 "true conservative" Republicans?
Thank God for Trump. If it weren't for him, immigration would have been a pillar of the conservative moment to have been mysteriously brushed aside to be purposely forgotten.
Of course getting them to Trump is ideal. You have to look at return on investment, for every 20 bernouts you shill Trump to, you might get 1 convert. For every 20 bernouts you shill Stein to, you might get 6 or 7 converts. It's about efficiently shifting the numbers in our favor.
"true conservative" Ted Cruz
So we do both at the same time somehow
And self-proclaimed socialist and proud proud Jewish man, Bernie Sanders
To beat subversives, you'll need to be subversive. Just make sure to hone in on your targets at their bases like plebbit so you don't have to pretend to be retarded amongst your peers.
We have to pretend like Trump is the chaos candidate, vote for him if you want to blow up the system
If it's possible sure. My angle has been if they show openness towards some of the things Trump has talked about, I'll go with Trump. If they are simply hardcore braindead leftists like you'll find in some Holla Forums threads who think Trump is a spook and everything is a spook, I'll shill Stein. If I shill both to the same person I just lose them completely.
Why is Stein any better than just getting them to stay home?
It doesn't. Bernie held back on attacking Hillary, even defending her on occasion when her email scandal got hot in the debates. He was likely never in it to win, and he certainly showed no signs of being desperate to win near the end. As such, he'd never even consider running third party and by giving his supporters that hope they'd cling to it all the way to November and write in his name rather than get behind Trump.
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Bernie and Trump agree on issues like trade and TPP. Hillary wants more of that shit. You guys might not like this, but you need to find the places where Bernie and Trump overlap (they disagree on a ton of shit but they do agree on some things), and let them know that Hillary is far worse than Trump. You also have to let them know that they aren't a traditional republican. They care a lot about social issues, and if you can frame it as Trump being moderate on social issues, but concerned about things like trade and jobs, they'll at least listen.
Foreign Policy. This is the angle. Their platforms were essentially the same. You can't always get what you want, but they will be happy with token elements of their platform making it.
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Protip: It doesn't matter what Sanderfeld says, nor even what he does.
We have to put the idea into the minds of the people.
It is entirely possible we could meme a large portion of his base into write-in votes.
Easy-peasy.
Oh, good, Im' glad we agree!
We don't need to meme him ACTUALLY running third party, just the idealistic notion - which will totally appeal to his base - of supporting him no matter what, even if it means write-ins.
Wouldn't be surprised if, should we do the job well enough, the lil hebe tries to co-opt the movement to acquire further shekels.
The way that Trump has outlined.
My JIDF gf just got out of the local Demicrap delegate convention and she said it was an utter shit show. 7 going to bat for Bernie and 3 for Shillery. All of them know it's not going to do any good. A LOT of them are misinformed. My gf even said there was basically no leadership whatsoever at the convention and bitches were just chimping out all over the place. This is a great opportunity. They need order. They need to know who they work for. They need to know who the Emperor is and what they need to do to get him there.
That is all.
Socialism doesn't allow the peasant class to own anything.
Capitalism Does.
Read a book, nigger.
let's meme it
I'm telling Bernie voters to "do the right thing" and vote for (((Jill Stein))) "because if the Green party gets 5% they receive federal funding."
This gets them away from the idea of voting for a Democrat.
Some will come around to Trump when he debates Hillary, simply because they hate that cunt.
The rest will hopefully either stay home or throw their votes away.
Those who decide where the resources are allocated.
And those who don't.
From most reasonable millennials I've talked to about politics most of them seem to conclude that either Bernie or Trump would be better for the country than Cruz or Hillary simply because of the fact that there is no big money behind the two former candidates.
Mind you this is after successfully convincing them that Trump isn't Hitler incarnate and actually cares about the country.
I'd say that's progress seeing that Bernie is fucked and Trump is already pulling in moderate Democrats.
If there's a way to convert Berniefags then we definitely should pursue it, but most of them are such self-hating anti-white cucks that I can't imagine them ever rallying behind Donald Trump. The kike media has convinced them that he's literally the next Hitler and will send every minority to a death camp.
The best case scenario is to vilify Hillary Clinton for stealing the nomination from their beloved jew and completely demoralize them with how rigged politics are. If we can crush their spirits and make them hate Hillary they might just stay at home instead of voting for anyone. GOP voter turnout has been in record numbers this election while enthusiasm on the Dem side has been depressed. If we can continue this trend Trump might just be able to win those couple of swing states he needs.
Oh fuck, I didn't see this thread. I made a thread a bit like it >>5869107 and I posted a bunch of ideas in the op. You guys might wanna take a look.
I wholeheartedly agree. This is an underrated post.
Though this will sound shill-esque, Bernie and Trump are actually quite similar. They're revolutionaries, deviating from the system of politics we have had since Reagan.
The most success I had with making Bernie supporters see Trump in a more positive light was that I made clear the overlap of revolution. Both Bernie and Trump supporters want revolution in their own way, but both sides would rather have any revolution than to vote Hillary.
That would be good too. We have to take what we can from them. I don't know the numbers, but just based on my interactions with them, at least 50% are inclined to still vote. Most of those are obviously for Clinton. For those who are intent on voting and want to vote for Clinton, it's better to direct them to Stein it's an easier sell. For those who won't vote at all, it's good to sell Trump to them. For those undecided, again, it's good to sell Trump or Stein depending on what kind of leftist they are. If you're dealing with "you're a fucking white male!" trying to sell them on Trump probably isn't going to get you very far, they're probably politically active and want to vote, so there Stein is probably your best bet.
Keep driving it into their heads that Trump is a pacifist and Hillary is a warmonger. Redpill them on Iraq, Libya, Honduras and every other proxy war she's supported.
Point them towards Trump's recent foreign policy statement:
donaldjtrump.com
Leftists will eat this up because Trump's foreign policy is actually more in line with their ideology than Shillary's is.
You know that bernouts don't even vote for bernie right? Trying to court screaming commies SJW types will likely be a wasted effort since they would have to leave their computers and stop smoking DUDE WEED to vote for anyone. The other half of his support base are underage.
If Bernie won we would all die in Concentration camps. Not a joke
No
I just sent this thread to several bernie facebook groups, and the mods of the sanders subreddit.
Good luck trying to do your plan now.
:-)
Checked, but if Bernie goes 3rd party, the RNC will then run a neocon like Romney or Kasich as 4th party to try to jew Trump.
They might even make Romney, Rato and Kasich all run as 4th-6th parties to ensure Hillary wins and business-as-usual continues in Washington.
This. Or at least a part of it. Take all the shit the cruzcucks were throwing around here thinking we care, and show it to the libshits. They care. If they find out the choice is between a Christian that used to argue that fags be beheaded, that is uncompromising on trannies, and that caters to the same narrowminded suburban christians as Clinton does/will try to in the elections, Trump will look a whole lot better in their eyes.
I'm already thinking about how to do it, and get something all-encompassing going to do our part, but this thread only covers one small facet.
Therefore sage
Lmao JIDF is running out of money and want to use Holla Forums as shilling force.
Except he won't win. However, if we want Trump to win we need to convert a certain percent of his constituency.
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Why does that penis have hair?
Also I may not have the stomach to talk to these Bernie backers. I'm participating in a conversation about how black on black crime is a result of white oppression and I've stopped trying to be subtly manipulative and am now just saying literally the dumbest shit I can think of short of "hurdurrrr I'm an idiot" and they're not getting that I'm being facetious - like, at all.
We've just got to keep memeing like it's Bernie V Trump.
One thing you've got to understand, they want to vote trump. They hate fighting it, hate being on the losing team "led" by a dumb guy, hate that trump is right about mexicans. They especially hate that trump is going to go where bernie won't with Clinton. Bernie is a fucking loser when it comes down to it and the sooner they admit it to themselves, the better.
This is why can work. It gives them an excuse to say they "might" vote for trump.
Change the subject, fight on our territory not theirs.
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Yes it is
Ive noticed this & Its having a huge backlash on social media.
Shillary followers telling Bernie supporters that they need to dump him & get on the "winning team" ! other wise the evil republican Trump will win & it will be all their fault.
Not realizing that allot of Sanders supporters are independant & despise the Democrats. Ive seen allot saying they were going to hate fuck shillary by voting trump
Just be honest. There's parts of him that are already in alignment with Trump so there's no need to pretend.
If I was a BernieBro that'd be enough to sell me on Trump right there.
Don't shoot.
Let 'em BERN
i am not even capable of limiting my keks right now. they're taking over.
Sanders got cowed by girls.
First, you need to realize that if you're dealing with a "muh loans" bernout who only cares about free shit, you're not going to be able to flip them to Trump. Shill Stein or convince them to stay home. If you're dealing with someone a bit more serious you can get a lot of mileage out of Trump's stance on trade and foreign intervention.
Remind them that Trump is about putting America First, which means bringing jobs back to America. Trump is for the working man.
Hopefully he'll clean out the prisons and put those niggers to work in factories - under the lash (metaphorically)
Bernie is most likely going to ticket under Hillary as VP or something else to save his hide, and some of his money.
This will swing fence sitting Bernie cucks back over to the Hillary camp.
It's already thought out and planned. We need to push ahead and crush them all underfoot.