Slava Ukraini

Do any of you have any questions for an American in Ukraine?

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Also, this is my first time posting here, though I've lurked on /pol on and off for years.

Fuq are you doing there?

Working towards installing national socialist governments legally, getting paid to do so, and stopping the spread of communism in the process is pretty cool.

Plus it's a pretty nice nation in the West.

How much has Soros given you?

all of Ukraine has a shit tier GDP per capita now but historically Western Ukraine has been the poorest part, its mostly undeveloped farmland which is unable to efficiently compete with Russian, Romanian, Polish or Belarussian farms and relies on government subsidies to survive and in most cases is a negative asset or barely breaks even

How the fuck did you get there?

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I always wanted to talk to a hot-head

I want to know this.

What are things like on the ground? Are Ukrainians redpilled? Do they know about American Jews trying to take over their government? Are you fighting for azov? You guys accepting volunteers?

How much are you getting paid?

Answer me nigger

How do I move there and help you?

I think OP got hit by a fragment.

How does it feel knowing you're going to do for the EU?

*die

Hello user what are you doing in Ukraine?

How retarded are the people there ?

They traded one hell for a worse hell with jews on top.

I know many ukrainian men died in wars before and the ratio of men to women was incredibly skewed towards women, while many jews got away.

But still, their parliament is a joke and they let any armed group get away with taking down governments.

Is the mafia running things there ? Are regular people unable to do anything or afraid for their lives ?

This thread has become pointless

Op is a fagit

Fucking rip, I saw the little 2 thing and thought that meant nobody new commented on it. Sunday I'll send anybody pictures from Kiev if they want proof.

Soros has given me nothing.

It is pretty nice in the cities in the west, if you go to the east you can buy women for a can of meat lol.

I'm not with Azov, they only take citizens currently, but I do have permanent residence so I'm going to try to get in soon.

Some Ukrainians are redpilled, almost all are very nationalist but not too many are NatSocs, they don't have a problem with them for the most part. They do know about the dangers of the EU and NATO. The group I'm with is accepting volunteers, you can contact me at [email protected] if you wish to know more about that.

The regular people are in a tough spot, the nationalist revolution is ready to begin, but they're holding it off waiting for resolution in the east so that the separatists can't take advantage of the weakened Ukrainian forces. The Ukrainian people are very unhappy with the way things are, but most Westerners, while political and wanting change, don't seem to fear the situation.

Once again, sorry for the late responses, I'll try to check it more today.

Oh yeah, and I got there by Ukraine international air, great shit.

The people are weird, they're very traditional for the most part, very caring, and they really appreciate and respect the foreigners who fight there, along with any fighters. I'll admit I'm no slavaboo, when I want I was actually a very heavy nordicist but after being immersed in their culture I've gotta say they're quite alright and have treated me better than any stranger ever did in America.

About 400$ a month, but that's over twice the national average, so needless to say you're rich in Ukrainian eyes and can afford anything you want there.

Are they installing NS in Ukraine to provoke Russia?

No, they don't want to provoke Russia at all. There's a very powerful nationalist movement that's just tired of being controlled by both the west and east, it's controlled by national socialists because a good number of people don't have bad memories of the Germans, and instead blames the communists and Russians for everything that happened to them. The nationalists just want an independent Ukraine, to be left alone by both Russia and the West.

Well, I take that back, there's a small subset of national socialists who want to assist in violent/revolutionary action in Russia to secure Ukraine's future safety and to get revenge for past wrongs. But for the most part while everybody despises Russia, they realize it's not within reason to do anything to them, and aren't willing to lose everything over revenge.

who cuts your hair??

I tried your contact link doesn't work fgt

Yes, who are you working for? Hm?

I can see you are trying to recruit people. Tell us more and just be honest and blunt. Probably one or two lads might join you.

I myself will take no part in such conflicts.

I honestly prefer the Russians right now because Ukraine is controled by the ZOG machine and disgusting oligarchs. Like Russia was before Putin.

I think the Russians should be allowed to be Russian, and that the Ukrainians/Rusyns need a complete reformation.

But it is useless for you to be so vague. Tell us more or we will just consider you a shill.

And despite all that, if some anons want adventure, I can confirm that Ukranians, if they consider you kind/honest, will treat you like men are supposed to be treated. With food, drink and traditionalist conversation. Just don't think they are angels, for all peoples have shitty men and shitty women, especially in war torn places.

You guys might also find a good girl there, but being that Ukraine is in such a tought spot they might just want to secure a random provider, so be careful to not be exploited.

My bad, that's the name I use for some stuff but not my email, my email is [email protected]

In all seriousness I'm not trying to recruit people at the moment, we're in a bit of a tough spot and ass of right now I'm in charge of the westerners and don't have time to play the recruiting game, if somebody really wanted to join I would talk to them, but it's not my intention at this second, if nothing else then because as I said I'm planning on potentially joining a new unit soon.

I would prefer not to say my unit name, they're apolitical and while they're aware of my politics they have made it very clear they don't want their name thrown around with politics, we're a legal unit that is the first of its kind, and any trouble can cause us to be shut down in a heartbeat.

I understand your opinion and am friends with a few Russians/Separatists with similar opinions, but I'm in Ukraine because I think if we win this war, the Ukrainians can have a true nationalist takeover and that would change everything for everybody.

Both of the bottom statements are true, they're great people but you do need to be on guard, some less than honest people would like a free ride to the west, and in relation to that you need to always have a buddy because you're at risk for being kidnapped and sold, as while the Ukrainians love what you're doing and respect you, often their starving families might come first.

Alright, I understand.

You have given us valueable and fascinating information thought.

So, let me get this straight, you are in a Pro-Nationalist, legal, paramillitary unit, that doesn't take part in politics, nor in the civil war, but is recruting all Pro-Nationalists/Pro-Ukranians it can, does security duties, and is waiting for a chance to help form a rulling nationalist coalition?

wew, grass roots pol tier stuff

bump for interest

We're a pro-nationalist, legal, all foreign Army unit that doesn't take part in politics and is fighting in the civil war. With that info you can probably find out who we are with some research given that it's the first and only of its kind, but hopefully you wont fuck up a good thing. That's why we're in such a tough spot and have to tread carefully.
As a unit we don't have a decided thing in the case of a new maiden, I think most westerners are willing to participate, some of the eastern foreigners would go home, and some would help either side, it's not spoken of much outside of very trusted circles given that we are an actual army unit, so expressing a lack of loyalty to the government to the wrong person might cause some problems, though if you're loyal to your unit it seems most people don't care what your future plans are as long as they can trust us now.

We generally just skirt the ideas of politics and express that we're helping the government for the duration of the civil war, and it goes unspoken who we'll help in the case of a new maiden, same with the others. Talking about it is just a quick way to ending up in prison.

Ah, it all makes sense now.
Yes, fascinating stuff indeed.

A few things I would like to know, if possible, are:

Are people as engaged in disinformation as mass media is? Do people rely on mass media strongly?

Not OP, but I can say that Ukrainians outside the Ukraine seem very susceptible to any Ukranian TV channels and whatever the channels say.

I've only seen a small amount, nothing special, some of us have been around since maiden though.

We haven't had heavy losses, but there was an incident recently that involved all westerners other than me in the unit being dead, captured, or deserting other than me, that's why things are rough, and part of why I'm making this, I think I'm going soon and I wanted to spread knowledge before I left, pass on what I know before it happens.

We function as a full Army unit.

It's grown cold for the most part, our hands are tied and the rebels are killing us, but soon it should go hot again and we can hopefully win.

The new maiden is close, but it all depends on how the war goes.

There's a lot of gossip, there's a mass hysteria type of thing but it's not super connected to the media, more of to the people. There are some media forms that are trusted to a degree though.

Do you realize that the whole thing is funded by the European Jewish Congress director Kolomoysky, Ukrainian president's mom is a Jew, Timoshenko is a Jew, and even the "nazi" leader Yarosh is an observant Jew?

I honestly can't think of a current Ukrainian leader who isn't a Jew.

Why are you being a good goy and playing into the hands of the globalist cartel?

How does working for the interests of both the United States and the EU in any way advance a NS cause
Also, if you're serious you should consider an easy escape, when the fighting dies off, no matter who wins, the nationalists will be blamed for war crimes and end up arrested or in a shallow grave

Yarosh is no nationalist leader, we know who the enemies are, things aren't how they seem, and the people know that none of the leaders are who they want, that's the point of the new maiden.

To be fair how is fighting for Russia any different?

We're not working towards their interest, once again that's the point of the maiden, same bs that happened in the middle east, they funded and supported extremist and now it's out of hand and going to bite them in the ass.

I can't escape, I've sworn to my brothers I'll find them and get them rescued, at any costs.

What do Ukrainians think of Bandera?

My condolences, man. Let's hope you can help in a true Revolution, in the Second Maidan.
You might want to consider going back home, rethink and then try a new approach, since it seems you have been somewhat abandoned for the moment.

Tbh he doesn't seem to be Azov or something like that. Let's hope he can atleast help take on the jews, in a new Maidan.

^This. The goverment will try to blame everything on others to appease…

(check'em)

A brave choice. I hope it is not in vain. Good luck.
I'm just hoping a new maidan can bring peace and healthy nationalism for the Russians and the Ukranians.

Things are exactly how they seem. The German government is even working with the Ukrainian government to turn Ukraine into a refugee dumping ground in case Germany is overflowed this year and Poland refuses to take them.
And the Ukrainian government already talks about selling Ukrainian land to refinance the IMF debts.

The useful "nationalist" idiots have turned a country into Soros-Rothschild playground.

What was the whole thing expected to be?
A country can't truly be independent in this day and age, it has to be a satellite of US/EU, Russia or China to even exist in the first place. Ukraine broke away from Russia in a way that getting back under Russian protection would be very difficult, little did they know that US/EU protectorate means debt slavery, rapefugees and racemixing.

I suggest you go to Russia, fall on your knees and beg for forgiveness before it's too late.

One you're a cuck, two things really aren't how they seem, you can't see it because you don't want to. Just know things really aren't how you think, there's a major disconnect between the government and the people, but you treat them as one and the same.

Thank you, we're doing the best we can with what we have.

I'm worried it will be, I think I'm going to be killed sunday night and I'm honestly kinda terrified, that's why the rest left.

Do you guys ever kiss each other as a joke?

It's like that in every European country. But nothing stops the government. In Europe you get arrested for the wrong type of talk, some things are only to be whispered.

That's what's awaiting Ukraine, everyone discontent with the government will be quietly arrested (in the best case scenario) or executed. All with the full support of the UN and EU. That includes you too.

When I say "before it's too late" I mean exactly that.

The numbers, militancy, and weaponry is different in Ukraine. The government can't touch them for the most part.

Come to Germany to see how it works. You are fucked.
In 5 years tops Ukraine will officially stop existing as a sovereign country, the muslim and nigger number will reach the average European 20% of the population and you all will be rotting in different prisons.

It's like 5 percent in germany the only euro nation with 20 percent musliums is russia

Do the germans have support from the majority of the population, BMPs/BTRs, RPGs, AKs, PKMs, a revolutionary mindset, a successful revolution under their belt, and a ton of experience from one of the most brutal modern wars?

I hope you survive, and if you do, let us know and give us updates. You should seriously hide this Sunday. Get an excuse, and try to see if they are truly after you. Or, well, try to fight to the death in the most spectacular fashion possible.

Germany is an extreme case though. People are extra brainwashed there, and unarmed. Ukraine is old-fashioned and full of weapons.

Why are you guys going to be killed Sunday night?

What has Russia to do with anything? Russian muslims are locals living on their own land.

And Germany has way more than 5% currently. 10% Turks and Albanians before the whole thing started.

You don't realize how the Jew works. They will tell go full propaganda, how taking refugees and racemixing is a European thing to do, start getting Arab and Black celebrities on TV and you'll eat it all up. Then they will blame all the bad thing on Putin, like they do.
What did you do when one of your nationalist leader "commited suicide" by multiple shot at the back, while his hands were tied behind his back? Nothing. That's how it will go. You will all be either "killed by the FSB" or "commit suicide due to severe PTSD"

4th place in gun ownership in the world actually. I own a .357 magnum myself.

Russia has everything to do with this because the mongolian musliums are trying to conquer ukraine. MUH 20% percent musliums but it's okay because russians are brown dick loving faggots

Can you post any proof of who you are, or tell us a name or an article explaining the group you're with?

a .357 does not equal being armed when you speak of war.

I realize how the jew works, you don't realize the cultural differences. We've already had leaders killed, and we know why it was done and it stopped nothing because it's a leaderless movement, it's autonomous.

As I said I need to try to keep the unit I'm with undisclosed, but if you message that email I'll send you some proof.

The current Ukrainian government is very pro-Tatar Muslim and constantly uses them as an excuse to whine about Russia annexing Crimea, not to mention the dozens of Chechens and other various Muslims in the Ukrainian army directly cooperating with "Ukrainian Nationalists"
nytimes.com/2015/07/08/world/europe/islamic-battalions-stocked-with-chechens-aid-ukraine-in-war-with-rebels.html

The Muslim refugees are Arabs and north African niggers being sent by the EU and Turkey, not the fault of Russia.

No thanks.

The current government is sucking the EU's dick to try to get support against Russia, but all the nationalists know this and know the current government's day will come, same as the old one's.

There are some Chechens, but almost all have been sent home.

Nobody is blaming Russia for the migrants.

Crazy kike.

1. You won't win against Russia. If you chimp out, they'll take over the entire country in a week. "We did it because declared nazis took over! We're gonna retreat when the nazi movement is over…" is the perfect excuse. They'll burn the country and take in ethnic Russians. Then keep Novorossia for muh Crimea corridor.

2. You lack a Fuhrer. You have no good, charismatic leader at all. No one capable of taking over the govt AND the oligarchs, while keeping Russia at bay. You're only slightly better off than the East in that regard, no matter how much you dance with skinheads.

3. You're no Germany. You're poor. Your industry is dependant on Russia. You have no money to convert it. Oligarchs control industry anyway. You have no choice but to get jews to cover your expenses. They own you.

4. You're not even Poland. Your country is not ethnically homogeneous enough. You were fucked when you started fighting Russia. Absolutely fucked. Even if you take over, become natsoc, take back Crimea, Putin dies and somehow Russia is cucked into inaction, you're still fucked because you made enemies with the giant country just to the east of your border. The average Russian won't be happy until your country is gone at that point. Have fun fighting all of them. Daily reminder Russians have never been more nationalistic than right now.

1. We can win the war, if they declare full blown war it's the start of WW3.

2. We do lack somebody as charismatic as the Fuhrer, but somebody imperfect will suffice for my goals.

3. I never said it was sustainable, as I said before I'm no slavaboo or Ukrainian nationalist, this is all for the ripple effects it creates in the rest of the world.

4. See point 3.

My goal for the nationalist take over is something it's already visibly done even though it's in its infancy. It has created a great flood of arms into Europe and into nationalist hands, it has made nationalism more acceptable in the eyes of many, create giant networks of nationalists around the world, shown people revolutions can happen in modern nations, and given nationalists all around the world both connections and war experience. In the event of a win all these things would increase tenfold along with giving nationalists at least a partial safe haven.

Listen guys, I'm not here to argue with russaboos (Though anybody who does any research knows that Russia is just as much a tool for the Jew as the west, ask any nationalist in Russia how it is, they're treated as terrorists.), I've obviously made my decision and both sides have merit to them, hence why I'm friends with some separatists and don't hate the enemy. To me the bottom line is the Ukrainians have a great and powerful nationalist movement and the separatists are neo-Soviets. As a westerner a Ukrainian win benefits me and my people more than a separatist win.

You seem like a cool guy OP.

Do you have any interesting stories? What kind of equipment do you use on the front, and what do you think of it?

Are the Novorossiyans better supplied? Better trained? How do they fight compared to the Ukrainians? Are there any tactics unique to this conflict?

Just a second, I have a skype call with another volunteer regarding our situation I have to deal with.

Another foreigner - European man living Ukraine here, not involved in military, just living.

Ukraine's economy and standards of living are worse now than before Maidan, keep in mind it was already shitty, now it's going full failed state, somehow a lot of people still manage to live with 150 USD a month, they usually live with their parents even if they are 30+yo married w/ children, things are getting worse and worse, but not bad enough apparently. If a wild 'Hitler' appears, people WILL follow him, but the nationalist parties I've seen so far don't have the charisma, they dress poorly, well they are poor as fuck.

Ukrainians are conservatives but not redpiled, they hate gay propaganda and race mixing, but mostly still have no clue about the jewish problem, even if the right leader appears, here's the problem:

After the fall of Soviet Union, a few people with (( international connections )) bought the whole infrastructure of the country, I'd say about ~50 men own 99,5% of the whole wealth of the country, yep they are mostly Ukrainian Jews or foreigners (Russian Jews, Russian Tatars).

- Ukrainian media is fully owned by them, and most people seems to watch/trust the local media, they usually bash the local nationalistic parties and Russia.

- There are more Jews in Ukrainian parliament than USA parliament, lots of Jewish mayors, the Financial Minister is an American Jew, now the Prime Minister is an Ukrainian Jew (the previous was Jew too), and more.

- Banks are directly owned by Jews, see 'Privat Bank'.

- To make it worse, American Jews like Soros get involved.

Poland and Hungary seem to be doing better to uncuck themselves, I'm not a defeatist but if Hitler comes here he'll be playing Reich at ULTRA HARD mode.

Actually, no. Not 4th place at all. But I'm happy that you are armed, even if not with a rifle.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country

(continuing) I don't want to discourage you, OP, we just need to be realistic about the Jewish Problem, if we could make that info become common knowledge among the people in Ukraine people will revolt, and nothing can stop redpilled mass of people. Sieg Heil!

This is what Ukrainian nationalists actually believe. Russia can't take any more sanctions, but if you think the americans are going to launch nukes or send troops for Ukraine, you're sorely mistaken. You exist only to be an iron ball on the bear's foot. The faster you sink, the happier they are.

I'm not saying it because i love Russia, i just want Ukraine to not be Russia myself, but from outside it looks to me you're repeatedly shooting yourselves in the dick. Learn from history, not from the pretty "We wuz kangz" propaganda the americans made for you. You're the tool of someone against someone else. Who should you be fighting of the two?

Russia has 6.5% Muslims.

I'm a Ukrainian living in America. I visit Kiev often. How can I help?

I should be more clear. Seeing the globalists destroy my country is really heart breaking and I want to see Ukraine stand up on her own two feet.

I'm unemployed but I have plenty of dish saved up so I can pretty much get up and leave at a moments notice. There really isn't much for me here. Sure I have a degree from a US university, but my whole family is in Kiev and I speak Russian fluently. So I'm eager to join up/help.

If it means anything, I have extensive knowledge of chemistry, pharmacology and medicine.

Ya gonna give me some sauce on that number?

[email protected]

We can talk privately there, though I doubt there's much you can do, if anything we'll meet in Kiev for a beer the next time you're around :)

THE FIRST TIME I MAKE AN Holla Forums POST AND I GET CAUGHT BY ONE OF MY AUTIST IRL FRIENDS

Oh shit I just read your second post, we're actually in desperate need of a translator if you would like to join up, I'm the medic so we can work together on that as well.

I don't have a ton of interesting stories from Ukraine other than the situation that's going on right now, but until it's contained next week it has to be kept under wraps, my life has been a giant interesting story though.

We have entirely modern equipment, it's all brand new, I liked western weapons more but we're well geared for Ukraine.

It all depends on the unit with the Novos, some are Spetsnaz trained and funded by billionaire Russians, some are Russian soldiers in disguise, and some are retarded farmers with ww2 relics, you never know, and their fighting styles reflect this.

It's like Stalingrad in modern times, or WW1 in modern times. IE it blows.

I get exactly what you're saying, and couldn't have said it better myself, though from the military side it SEEMS that the people are more redpilled than you seem to think and the media hides it, for example Right Sector recently torched a couple Jewish banks in Kievand said they would kill the owners next time if they didn't take their business out of Ukraine.

Seems like a sort of enemy that's really difficult to predict.

Did the Ukranians train you, or did you go over there already having military experience?

thanks, shot you an email

Haha
What's your favorite pie?

Both, almost all of us are veterans, but we do have a few people that started off as civilians, we train as a unit though and that gets everybody to the same level. Me in particular I was in the Army and was an EMT for a bit before. Now I'm Dr. Mengele, the new medic :^)

Brb going out to dinner and having a few meetings.

Put "Russia", "Muslim" and "6.5%" in google you lazy twat.

Says 14% taken in 2006

Was before the mass deportations of Asian Muslims and influx of white Europeans and Russian from Ukraine.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Russia

6.5% in 2012, a fair estimate today would be 4.5%.

Seems to be some conflicting info on that ivan

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Russia

It's also worth noting russia is only 80 percent russian even by Wikipedia standards

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Russia

No shit, retard. There are 135 ethnicity living in Russia along with 5% Buddhist asians, Russians aren't even the majority.

Did you seriously just edit a Wikipedia page to shill here?

Keep lieing to yourself you cunt

Those are two diffrent wiki pages

Oy, vey! The goyim know, shut it down! Go away kike, you blew your cover.

OP how does it feel that you will never get Polish citizenship. Since both of your parents need to be Polish.
>inb4 implying Poland is Ruthenia

EU is literally destroying the European countries and yet they did it anyway so I don't see the benefits in that for them at all. They fuckin' destroyed their own country. Please be distrustful toward the kikey government because they will dispose you and your mates like the rubbish.

Political Redpill Checkem

I never wanted Polish citizenship, I'll just visit Poland during the lebensraum expansion.

How are relations with Poland?

No offence but nigga do I look like I'm a diplomat?

From what I can tell though it's very good, it seems like the rest of the East is very pro-Ukraine because they're scared of Russia.

heroyam slava

When did you move to there?

When did you move to there?

Not long ago at all, I'm the newest of the group.

Oh hey, someone bumped this.

You won't be.

perogies: boiled, fried, onions or no?

Do you really think nationalists can prevent Ukraine from becoming Khazaria 2.0? Your new PM is a Yid. The state department has spent 5 billion on this project and it is not so Ukraine can find sovereignty.

Is this where you got the number 20% from?
Hmmm let's click that [4].

Source:
religare.ru/2_42432.html

Pic related, translation.

So when you asked for source you should have double checked the bullshit Ukrainian Ministry of Truth is posting on Kikepedia.

I boil them then saute them in butter. Fuck onions.

Ah the RussiaToday swill drinker. The only change Putin made was that they all pay a cut to him. The only oligarchs that got taken down were the ones that refused to pay a cut upstairs.

I don't know, nobody knows, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try.

I have to go now, brothers, if any of you wish to get in contact use the email, [email protected]. Thanks for everything!

start arranging arms deals