If anyone here has ever wondered about alternatives to far right Holla Forums identity politics and liberal tumblr identity politics, you should check out the far left's materialism. Economics is the main driving force in society.
Thanks, getting it trimmed tomorrow actually. It used to be super long during my emo phase.
Michael Adams
Stop ruining Holla Forums commie scum
Connor Flores
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Brandon Ross
nice argument
Thomas Baker
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Gavin Gomez
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Nathan Mitchell
Huh. I always thought leftism = SJW's.
Christian Green
is this leftypol that i just got out
Hudson Hall
Stop promoting your shitty videos on Holla Forums.
Luis Robinson
No, fuck off. Every idea the left proposes is inherently stupid, inherently evil, and inherently designed to make my life less pleasant.
-I don't care about fags. They should count themselves lucky they aren't exterminated. -The entirety of the 'green' movement is horseshit designed to attach a moral imperative to behaviors the left wishes to force on us. -Feminism is complete horseshit. -Identity politics are garbage. -Big governments always waste resources, abuse power, mismanage and destroy societies. -Trannies are mentally ill. -I have no interest of use with prostitutes or drugs. -I'm fond of traditionalism, the family unit, and morality. -Progress requires the destruction of whatever currently exists, and once it's destroyed progressives always want to destroy whatever new thing they've built. You're retarded, plain and simple. -I see no reason you should decide how my resources are spent. Socialism is idiotic, selfish and hypocritical. I will not subsidize drug addicts, retards and the most base of niggers. -I put more trust in law-abiding citizens keeping weapons, than restricting access to them to government thugs and criminals.
Eat shit you stupid liberal faggot.
Benjamin Scott
Do you know what the far left actually is?
Because you seem to think it's liberalism.
Camden Roberts
So you're telling me NONE of those things applies?
If even one line of that post applies to your ideology, you can fuck right off. Your whole MO is that you know your ideas are shit, so you keep renaming yourself and your ideas every few years, and when everyone fucking hates your group and what you've done you try to pawn it off on conservatives and claim it was them all along.
WHICH YOU DID IN THE OP OF THIS VERY THREAD YOU WORTHLESS FAGGOT. Right off on the wrong foot proving what a dishonest bag of shit you are. "SJW idpol"? Come the fuck off it. You can't be an SJW if you don't believe in social justice, and no one on the right believes in social justice. You've just created something so toxic you know you have to try to attach it to the right to make yourselves look less shitty.
Faggot.
Jackson Miller
Wew. Someone's salty. Fine lets go through your points.
Neither do I. How are they relevant?
I'm not actively supporting a 'green movement', I'm advocating for the removal of a system which causes the problems that a 'green movement' tires to deal with in the first place. It's indrectly solving the problem, but it's not an actual point in a socialist manifesto.
Agreed. It's idpol.
Agreed. Society is driven by economics and material conditions.
Agreed. We should move to a stateless society.
Agreed. Their hormones are fucked. Like any other mentally ill person we should give them therapy that will help them in their day to day.
That's fine, dont use them then. Just let others use them if they want to.
Camden Long
part 2
Ok. So what?
Agreed. Although if you're against this, you should be for feudalism, as capitalism came about through violent revolution.
Neither do I. They're yours to use, unless of course you own any means of production.
I'm for gun ownership too.
ok so overall we got one thing. Well shit I guess you did say 'if even one line'. I guess you know exactly what you were talking about all along.
Jordan Jones
That faggot wasn't just wrong, he was also gay.
Thomas Robinson
Will you stop once communism reaches 1 billion? Will that be enough?
Lucas Young
And yet the dictatorship of capitalism has killed more people put together and counting.
Luis Thomas
The power the left has given them in hollywood, indoctrinating children in schools, forcing religious institutions to cater to them, redefining marriage, letting them adopt children, if your ideology supports those things I cannot support your ideology.
Indirectly supporting the green movement which is complete bullshit.
I'm flexible on prostitutes in specific circumstances like how Nevada handles them, but drugs actively harm society beyond the user. I hate pot but I could see justifying it's legalization since it's on par with throwing your life away in an MMO, but everything harder than that is just selling human suffering, could be slipped into someone's food or drink without their knowledge, used to ruin a child's life, the users are a burden on the state and addicts are highly likely to commit violent crimes to get their fix.
The left has demonstrated a clear history of trying to tear these things down.
See, here we go. Nope, the owner of a business is putting out the most risk and thus should have the most reward. Workers are just that, workers. No way should the person who bought the building, provided the materials, hired everyone and ran the business make less than the person hired who specifically agreed to a set payment for their services.
Carson Miller
Marx never worked thought, he was just freeloading from his rich friend.
Josiah Edwards
Hold on how are any of those capitalism?
Cameron Turner
Oh, and to add on to the bit about prostitution, 90% of the time legalizing it leads to human trafficking and suffering, and bullshit like "punish the pimps and the johns but not the hookers" is sexist bullshit. It's like arresting drug buyers but not sellers. If it's a crime everyone involved is committing it.
Amsterdam is a hotbed of human trafficking because of legalized prostitution. I cannot agree with an ideology which subsidizes human suffering.
Jose Martin
We dont see homosexuality as a problem as we believe society is built around economic and material conditions. Therefore we would do nothing to cater to, or to oppress homosexuality.
It's unintentional though. Removing capitalism just happens to come with a better environment. It's not the focal point of our ideology.
Not actively tearing down, we just dont see a need to preserve them as they're not related to economics or material conditions.
The risk is only there because of capitalism.
The workers are the ones putting in the labour. Also, look up what surplus value extraction is, and why wages are theft.
Thomas Williams
Communists are known for their lies and propaganda, communism is a jewish invention after all
Matthew Russell
How much money and properties do you own right now user?
How much will you give to the community with this great charity you propose?
Tyler Lopez
I have run my own business for 45 years.
Would that that make my argument any more valid if it were true? No? So why are you asking.
Landon Robinson
Capitalism is the best current method we have. Under no other circumstances can the poor rise out of poverty. Socialism has been tried again and again and does not work.
I will no longer entertain your idiotic horseshit as you revealed it all boils down to communism, socialism and marxism. If you gave a shit about economics you wouldn't be claiming socialism was a solution. It has failed in every country it's been tried. It will always fail.
Your ideology is that of failure. Your entire existence is admission you cannot compete in society. You're a genetic dead end and your suffering should be ended brutally.
Christopher Martinez
… continue your retarded rambling, please !
Gabriel Cook
Because the people advocating for such charities are usually just leeches who want to take the fruits of the labour of other people, even worse than the capitalists they seem to hate so much, just like Marx. Lazy leeches who feed from the work of other people are advocate for everyone to hand over their stuff TO THEM so they can 'share' and keep the biggest part to themselves.
Worst of all, they are usually just lazy ass rich kids who never witnessed any strife in their life. This pretty much describes every first world 'communist' out there.
This goes over the russian revolution, but when that went bad, all the others were doomed to follow.
Chase Rivera
It's easy to say why they have failed. Because Communism is a cancer that can never grow without a host and after it's host is killed it slowly devolves and dies.
Hudson Carter
NEETs spend all day killing time so it makes no difference to OP if gorillians of people die trying to make a jewish scam in the form of a non-functioning ideology work.
Jayden Wright
If you take thoes out from capitalism, you have to take out most from communism as well.
Parker Perez
Well going around with rifles telling people that every single thing they own, that their family built and worked on for generations, is no longer theirs and now belongs to 'everyone' is obviously not gonna work. If taxes are theft then what would be the word for stealing what EVERY fucking person in the country owns, baning their religion, taking their children and starving millions could be called?
Is their any word for it? Let's just call it what it is, communism.
Adrian Johnson
Dude, you're just making excuses for your numerous failed states. Communism/socialism is designed by nature to destroy societies. We've seen this in Venezuela, in Sweden, basically all throughout Europe. The more socialistic a nation is the faster it fails. Fuck the workers, and fuck you being such a complete fucking retard.
North Korea was built by communism. South Korea was built by capitalism.
Capitalism won. Grow the fuck up and deal with it. Your ideology is garbage and so are you.
Isaiah Wood
under what logic? communism created those famines
Capitalism didn't go around giving AIDS to the indians or shitting all over their crops now, did it?
Matthew Stewart
Under the logic that capitalism creates famines and starvation too?
Christopher Hernandez
If anyone is really looking for a alternative I would try being a libertarian leaning conservative and what I understand under that is -Constitutionalist -Small government -Capitalist -Pro individual freedom -Anti Censorship -Leaning more towards free market bu not completely
I know everything has it's flaws but I feel pretty good with it so far
Juan Williams
Destroying society is part of the marxist ideology though, they HAVE to get rid of all the 'problematic' culture, religion, family structure, etc in order to indoctrinate people.
Their indoctrination doesn't work otherwise. Communism seeks to destroy everything that made a society what it is, Fascism tries to elevate it. They're both socialist shitholes that are hard to tell apart economically though.
Hudson Hernandez
How so? Explain how capitalism created those famines.
Communism LITERALLY TOOK the land, cow and tools away from the farmers.
Joshua Reed
Don't forget they shot those that resisted and sent the rest of the family to the gulags for mourning them.
Ethan White
Just here to spread some patriotism in this thread
Thomas Parker
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Daniel Cooper
I really loved how George Orwell in 1984 gave a possible result of that "terminating of the smart" " O’Brien would be vaporized. Parsons, on the other hand, would never be vaporized. The eyeless creature with the quacking voice would never be vaporized. The little beetle-like men who scuttle so nimbly through the labyrinthine corridors of Ministries they, too, would never be vaporized."
Benjamin Roberts
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Socialists BTFO AGAIN ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Blake Barnes
Not even a half of what you listed counts as capitalism.
Bentley Thompson
You realise Orwell was a commi right?
Gavin Morris
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Nathan Hall
I don't care what he was, it's about the book.
Evan Price
About 4/5 of those are cause by statism, not capitalism. The rest are inevitable things that happen in any economic system. "Hunger" isn't a result of capitalism, what are food stamps and food banks? What is foreign aid? All done via capitalism. Etc
Leo Harris
who said being far right is instantly "IDPOL" leftists never justify why you can be left but arent instantly IDPOL but if you are right you MUST be IDPOL - especially if you are against massive immigration and tax dollars going to LGBTPQRD parades and sex transition surgeries
but keep shitposting its what we do
Alexander Robinson
Post pics. Don't be embarassed, we all looked stupid at that age.
Materialism has nothing to offer you know. Current politics are a reaction against materialism.
That's what i am, since i'm too shit skin for national socialism, my cannibalized dead gang home country is beyond Facism, and liberalism is sjw cancer.
I'll never see races as equal, i'll never see the evil swarms of jews in so many countries and places of power as just light hearted people.