This scene in A New Hope after Rogue One is so retarded

This scene in A New Hope after Rogue One is so retarded.


Despite the fact that you were seen escaping from a rebel fleet engaged in combat with Imperial forces over a top secret Imperial facility.

Well yeah, that's why vader ain't taking none of her shit.

Rogue One is non-canon.

They completely gutted anything canon do they could start over and make their bullshit canon.

Also does Vader know she's his daughter here? That would be like the only reason he spares her. Not exactly known for mercy.

Force Awakens reboots the Star Wars universe into a gritty Space Balls universe. So everything is parody through a gritty, modern movie filter now. Fact, Kylo Ren is a grom-dark version of Dark Helmet. Fact, star killer base, or whatever they called it could go from "Blow" to "suck" like Megamaid. The whole movie and the franchise as well, went from suck to blow.
If you view all Star Wars things with this new knowledge the pieces fit better.

No.

In Return of the Jedi, Vader knows Luke is his son, but peers through his mind to discover that he has a sister. He doesn't know her name, and that was the whole point of why that scene was impactual enough for Luke to yell, "NEVER!" in response.

He's not stupid either. She's still royalty and, ostensibly, on a diplomatic mission. Also, her father is a senator, and this is before the Emperor dissolved it.

Basically, she had enough political backing for Vader to step lightly.

It fits as a #Rebel4Life only because even in the face of defeat Leia is being snarky and badass too bad she's worst jedi

Considering they blew up Alderran, I don't think they give a fuck.

Jesus Christ, yes.
Also, the part where Leia gets captured. That was SO damsel-in-distress, like God's sake, it's 2016,98!

Even ironically, TruthSeeker posters are cancer.

What did he mean by this?

Really makes you think.

PROOFS

Disney doesn't have the right to guy the canon. Only the fans, or George Lucas, does.

No amount of money can buy the rights to the canon, just the rights for George to not be able to sue them to oblivion for ruining his crap.

This man knows his shit

You are, by all accounts the worst type of person. Your inherent xenophobia, racism, sexism, slew of phobias and not to mention superiorty complex shows that not only are you sociopathic but also a possible psychopath.

You are the summation of all that is wrong with the world and I'm laughing at you. I'm laughing at every word you write every word you jot down because we both know you are a failure. We both know you have to hide behind "Anonymous" "heh heh xD I'm just like every other user"

Why do I namefriend? Because I stand by what I write. You? heh, You hide and when called out may even just run away from the thread. I'd say kill yourself but no, I don't want that. I want you to live. I want you to know that every moment you laugh at "safe spaces" and "le sjws" you are more pathetic than every last one of them.

Being "unbias" is still a bias. Declaring everyone but you lower than yourself is not enlightenment. It just shows you are immature. You masquerade you're obvious inability to think with phrases to make you sound "Supah cool" but the truth is you're a nerd on a website who has to appease to other nerds to show how cool he is.

I'd say you're scum, but you're worse than that.

You're human. And you won't ever admit that.

You're not special.

You're not the smartest guy in the room.

You are, and always will be, delightfully average.

Gr8 b8 m8

You're not even me, yet you try to take my words.

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WHAT THE FUCK IS TRUTH SEEKER!?!?

WHY DOES HE POST LIKE THIS!?!?!

Maybe he's wondering why you'd post a meme before you called out the Nazis.

They do have the right. They own the entire IP. They can change anything they like and it becomes the canon. You are free to ignore it if you want but it will be the canon.

Imposter, feel you no shame for your deception?

What false outrage, befitting a false TruthSeeker. Your self-righteousness is a fraud you use to cover your shame for stealing my good name.

False bravado in the face of Truth. I expect no less from a charlatan.

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Is this the actual Truthseeker or just someone taking this to a whole new level by making comics?

That is TruthSeeker. Who else would drink Somalian semen coffee?

A good chunk of the left actually.

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Assdevastated instant coffeefag spotted.

You can only control when you release the meme, not what it becomes.

Mel Brooks, Bill Pullman, and Rick Moranis are still alive, they should totally make a gritty SpaceBalls.

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it was worth it for this

Remove the semen bits and it'll be more convincing.

You drink your coffee without cream? What a disgusting person you are.

Didn't they say they were doing one for Force Awakens if there was interest? Mel Brooks will probably do it since I don't think he's had much comedy success recently.

how does it feel to actually be retarded?

let me help you out there

That's decently cool. They should have made a movie about Vader killing Jedi stragglers.

Agreed, good chum. *tips beret*

in what way is OP retarded?

I don't know.
Last I heard about Mel Brooks was that he was doing broadway shit, or producing shit.

he's trying to say that leia giving the obvious bullshit excuse of being on a diplomatic mission when vader calls her out is now pointless.

if anything, it was just confirmation that vader knew exactly what was going on.

if op weren't a retard, he would bitch about how pointless it was to give a backstory to that scene.

you fools! Force Awaken is the gritty Space Balls. Compare Kylo Ren's helmet to Dark Helmet and compare Starkiller's Base to Megamaid.

He's 80-something

I don't get why these stories should have been told. I mean besides money they add jack shit to any of the characters, and the new characters end up dead and or uninteresting fuckers. So what's the point?

Wasn't a fan of this scene when I saw it. However re-watching it, it's actually a lot better than I thought.

It becomes their canon, but it doesn't erase the previous canon or force fans to acknowledge their shit canon.

Canon is entirely meaningless with properties that can be radically changed by completely different people decades after the fact. There is no rational reason to treat such changes as definitive anymore than it is to treat a remake as definitive.

if they didn't do one for the prequels they won't do one now. here's a bit of history for you: episode 1 was hyped up way more than TFA was and stayed in the public conscious, for good or bad, way longer. The only reason TFA grossed more is because it premiered in more territories and tickets are like 15 bucks now.

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The difference is that the Prequels were good and The Force Awakens is garbage.

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Why are normalfags excited about this scene?
It's clearly just Disney trying to throw them a bone so nerd reviewers can claim the movie has "star wars street cred" or some shit by saying Vader plays a major role.
All he does is kill no-name grunts instead of any of the important characters who seem to mostly die by blowing up.
They couldn't even use Vader properly, he kills them with a fucking lighstaber? DURR IZ STARWARS ITZ GOT TO HAV LITESABUR WEW xD!!

Yeah, they are. The art, the music, the world building, the classic Lucas themes that institutions and bureaucracy are corrupting forces, both for the senate and the jedi order, the Prequels are some of the best escapist fantasy movies ever made. They have levels of immersion that are unrivaled.

They're better than the original movies.

The creativity and imagination that went into the Prequels is a beautiful thing.

this tbh. the aesthetics of the world are far more interesting also. it's not just "desert, snow, spaceship interior".

Post more Naboo. I like Naboo the best out of the prequel worlds.

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Episode One is the best visually out of the prequels. It seems they integrated all the special effect better too.

I agree, but I think the other two are still very enjoyable. Each one has its one aesthetic, The Phantom Menace is closest tonally to an adventure movie, it's light and optimistic, matching Anakin's child nature in the film. Attack of the Clones is like a film noir mystery, and Revenge of the Sith is like a greek tragedy.

I meant to type own instead of one.

If it interferes with the script of the original trilogy then it's non-canon imo. Fuck Rogue One.

Really miss George right now.

Who build that human faced statue? Doesn't look like Nabooian architecture.

I personally like Attack of the Clones the best, with its art deco style - from costumes to ships and clones design. I also like how the style of the planets and the physical journey of the characters supports the themes of the story and matches Anakin's descent. Lucas is a true visual storyteller, unlike the hack Abrams, who just imitates the surface without understanding anything (like when he puts a cantina in the middle of a jungle in TFA).

Compared to TFA, yes they are.
They have their own flaws and nobody should deny that.
But compared to the pile of shit that TFA was…

pure coincidence.

I feel the same, I love the aesthetics of AotC and there's such a richness and stylistic finesse to every shot of it. TPM was pretty magical though, it's the first time George was truly unleashed from his previous technical limitations and it shows, the locations in it feels truly huge. I love the dualistic themes in it too.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
stop it George

I want Reddit to leave at once

People don't understand that the prequels were really awesome to people that really understand history. Especially the decent of the Roman Republic into the Roman Empire.

You had to see the greatness that was the Republic, in order to appreciate the guerilla warfare of the original trilogy.

Sure there were moments in the prequels that were a little off, but if you are able to think beyond "muh eye candy" there is a lot there to think about.

That being said, I liked Rogue One. It was a darker take on things, and felt more fleshed out than TFA. TFA left me largely disappointed. The main protagonist of Rogue One was competent, but not the Mary Sue that Rey was.

No you didn't. Those films were out for years.
Also the "greatness that was the Republic." You mean retard central?

You first, Mike. Is your review of Rogue One going to consist of shitting on the prequels and demanding more interracial explicit sex?

kek. the TFA Plinkett really was fucking bizarre.

Why would anyone need to pretend anything? The prequels were pure kino.

George Lucas loved Rogue One which proves what kind of a cuck he is. Star Wars is shit any way. If you want to see a good interplanetary film: John Carter is the best.

kek

John Carter stole a lot from AotC.

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A Princess of Mars was published in 1912, so stop lying. George Lucas never invented a single thing .

Cam rip is out.

Does the droid die? He's the only character I give a shit about.

Why am I not buying your bullshit?

Yeah, like how spinning is a good trick. Or midichlorians. Or the balance of the force. Or the sand.

Everyone fucking dies user, including K-2 sadly

That's still pretty bad

BOTTED

Was Leia just supposed to admit guilt to the enemy?

Vader should've simply told her to fuck off with her diplomatic mission, instead telling her to stop lying freom just having escaped his star destoryer.
The beginning of ANH simply doesn't make sense with RO ending.

ftfy

At that point why wouldn't she? It's already impossible for her to lie her way out of the situation. She and her ship have been witnessed firsthand committing treason by her judge, jury and executioner. Pleading with a flimsy alibi like that only makes her look pathetic, as well as making Vader even more angry.

Lying made sense when it was assumed Vader wasn't an eyewitness, and that he was simply pursuing her ship after receiving intelligence on the ship and then investigating in the typically heavy-handed manner that came to define the empire to the audience from the very start. It was reasonable for Leia to feign innocence in that situation because of the obvious lack of technical evidence against her, and for her to threaten that the imperial senate which is dissolved later in the movie would want to intervene on her behalf after the investigation inevitably turns up nothing on her ship although it's obviously too late for the ship's crew who were massacred while resisting arrest.

After Rogue One, it doesn't matter that there's no technical evidence on board her ship since she and her men have been seen (and presumably recorded) docking with an imperial vessel and transporting the stolen Death Star plans aboard before fleeing. At that point there is no getting away with this crime in the face of a regime that never forgives those it can prove guilty and also often ignores due process in favor of acting swiftly and providing evidence later.

At this point she is a proven rebel agent and enemy of the state. Her only logical course of action is to either remain silent and simply hope the imperials can't find the droids on the planet surface or better yet for her to admit guilt in order to lead the imperials down a false trail, just like she tries to do later in the movie when she pretends the rebel base is on Dantooine while under interrogation. There is absolutely nothing for her to gain by boldly lying as she does in the original movie after what happened at the end of Rogue One unless she's actually that dumb and naive I guess, but women can't be stupid in Disney movies anymore so that can't possibly be the case.

i actually just watched episode 2 the other day

it's a strong 7/10 but still has some seriously cheesy fucking moments

however, it is still leagues above the fart awakens

are you seriously using spoiler tags on a 40 year old movie?

a new hope is not canon anymore, Disney will remake the original trilogy with a more diverse main cast.

you stupid or something? the beginning still makes sense, it just has context to it now for the movie-goers to see.

Not the story numbnuts. Design wise and the art direction.

They are already doing that. The ANH remake was called TFA. The ESB remake will be out in a while too.

Disneyfags are really a new level of retard.

vader never captured her until then. might have interacted with her due to the senate and shit, and maybe found her in a funny situation before, but never captured in an act of war/treason/terror/buzzword until then, hence his shouting that she was a rebel and a traitor.

the plans were literally delivered to her, and it's so obvious even prior to rogue one that she's lying, since we see her put the plans into r2.

you're seriously a fucking moron, and i mean that in the least insulting way possible. just because vader doesn't shout "HEY I JUST SAW YOU LEAVE THE BATTLE YOU LYING CUNT" (which he didn't, he only saw the ship and tracked it down) doesn't mean this new shit doesn't work.

you're forgetting that the original theft of the plans was literally by leia seducing an imperial officer, and exploiting him. that shit was long since de-canonized (didn't even make it into the final script lel) and replaced with a better story (kyle katarn among others). if anything, this is more in tune with the original idea, you stupid cuck.

But he didn't see her in Rogue One. He saw the ship escape.

Playing devil's advocate for a moment, you could asspull the transmissions to be about where her ship went after escaping.

There's so much wrong with Rogue One that there is no need to nitpick stuff that can easily be handwaved away.

Now that I think about it, the dumbest thing about the whole ending sequence was Leia's presence among the attacking Rebel fleet.

What exactly was she doing there?

she was there to receive the plans

You son of a gun, you got me with the last panel!

This is pretty dumb. Vader never did the dirty work in the original opening Vader didn't show up until the Stormtroopers had secured most of the ship, same with when he showed up at the Hoth base. He showed up in the Death Star to confront Obi Wan which was his main concern since he expected the storm troopers to handle the intruders. At the end of IV when he shows up to confront Luke in his TIE fighter he comes along with a personal escort who protect him while he picks off people from behind.

It's like people forget that Vader wasn't some grunt that went around killing people he was a huge asshole that didn't help out any of his soldiers. Vader going around personally murdering a gang of Rebels is completely out of character for him, Vader would instead show up after the stormtroopers fought and captured them and then he would choke to death a couple of them to scare the others.

just because he wasn't shown doing it in the ot doesn't mean he never did it, you dingus. in fact it's implied he solo'd dungeons, but for a situation like retrieving the plans, he would be foolish to waste his mana against lvl 1 enemies, he needs to save that shit for the mini-bosses and instances. so instead he uses his lackeys to do the hard work of taking out the majority of the enemy force.

also, the two fighters that escort him were literally just wingmen, they didn't do shit except die and keep vader from dying.

I reckon the idea here is that Vader knows they have the plans and an escape ship ready, and he thinks the Stormtroopers won't be fast enough in their boarding to stop the Rebels.

In Episode IV there is no need for him to hurry because they have the Rebel ship secured within the Star Destroyer.

Well the point is that Vader is a Sith lord and are basically evil jedi or whatever. In the OT we're told that Vader used to be a proud and noble Jedi warrior until he was corrupted by the Dark side. This corruption is reflected in his behavior towards his men and the officers in the OT, he's petty and selfish and uses his the men under his command as tools to a goal. Vader would never waste his time with a bunch of nobody rebels he would only come out if he had a personal stake in the matter such as with Obi-Wan and later Luke.

You could say having him massacre a group of rebels mercilessly is meant to be intimidating but at the point audiences cheer for Darth Vader. They think he's a badass instead of being a complete cunt that nobody would want to be around.

That's because Vader is a badass, He's been portrayed as likeable since Empire Strikes Back. If you don't realize this, you're probably autistic.

Maybe Sith like the Dark Brotherhood, but not The Order of the Sith Lords. They are essentially 44d chess champions who manipulated the entire galaxy over 1000 years into putting them in power and believing the massacre of the Jedi to be a good thing.

Also it's fairly obvious that Vader was the fulfillment of both the Sith and Jedi Chosen One prophecy's (Sithari and whatever the Jedi one's name is). He destroys both the Jedi and the Sith.

Also you're ignorance of the old canon is pretty palpable. Vader was loved by the men of the 501st and the Stormtrooper Corps in general. He was hated by the Aristocracy of the Empire because he didn't bend over backwards for them.

I get your points, but when your secret weapon's plans are on the stake would you rush for it. Even if you need to make your hand dirty with plebs?

Vader gets his hands dirty plenty of times. He usually likes to hunt down Jedi on his own, eschewing Imperial escorts for example.

Having rewatched it I would not like this guy if I was under his command. He sends star destroyers into asteroid fields to look for a small ship which gets a lot of people killed and force chokes people who only fail him once.


I will admit I am ignorant of most of the other canon which is why my points are about the movies themselves and not the EU.

it's called the chosen one

and iirc darth bane was the actual sith'ari, since he destroyed both and then led the sith, vader was apprentice to sheev after his shenanigans.

yes that's reason enough to dislike the guy, but he expects competence when he literally has the galaxy and empire at his finger tips to do his exact bidding. more than reason enough to kill an officer for fucking up on the first try.

this is why admiral piett doesn't get choked out, he either succeeds or an unexpected factor comes in (for example, the tractor beam was out of range and R2 fixes the hyperdrive just in time, despite it having been intentionally sabotaged).

In the old Empire comics Vader would get down and dirty with the troops and they loved him for it. Nu-Star Wars comics went the opposite route and made Vader start killing Troopers for absolutely no reason at all, just because he's "evil"

I prefer the Vader that is respected by Stormtroopers and feared or hated by Officers.

Vader does not like most of the Imperial high command, and him and the Moffs, especially Tarkin, tend to clash on most issue.

This is exacerbated by the fact that the Emperor deliberately keeps the animosity going partially for the lulz and partially because keeping Vader focused on something else prevents him from having time to plot his coup d'etat.

vader seemed to get along fine with tarkin in ep 4

Yeah I always saw Tarkin and Vader as having mutual respect for one another. Although that might have been because Tarkin was basically 2nd to the Emperor in power and also being a gentleman.

Isn't canpn anymore for a rewason.
user is right that Vader, as shown in the other movies, would never go and kill puny rebels for the lulz.
Just another inconsistency on the steaming pile of shiot that Disney managed to produce.

Disney doesn't control the past. Disney doesn't get to erase canon.

only a cuck deals in absolutes.

Even if you discount R1, it still doesn't make sense that they would claim to be on a diplomatic mission when we see them running from Vader's ship and then resisting his boarding party. An innocent group would have let Vader capture them.

They nuked the entire base with the Death Star. Everyone dies.

FUCK YOU DISNEY

The tone is completely different. In ANH she tells it as if she expected Vader to believe it.

vong was shit and you know it

njo though, that's a damn shame.

Except that's completely wrong, you fucking retard.

okay buddy, let's invent a species that can just ignore the fabric of the universe

don't get me wrong, everything disney pumps out is just as retarded, but while vong had some good to it, the bad outweighed it 2:1

Force is just magic in the first place.

I watched the RLM review and they didn't like it.

Only Jay defending Daisy Ridley in comparison to the other actress stood out as dumb.

wtf I love Rogue One now

I'm not even gonna watch it. I'll check out the effects work when the bluray rip hits but it's not a movie worth watching unless you're a water cooler normie or something.

Fuck off retard. The whole point of the prequel trilogy was to show Anakin and the Republic being corrupted by a greedy old kike who just wanted power. Saying Sheev was secretly a good guy not only invalidates literally everything we saw in the prequel trilogy; it's also fucking retarded in itself. Like, if Sheev was secretly a good guy and knew about this threat to the galaxy, why did he start a huge, galaxy-weakening civil war instead of just fucking warning the fucking council about it?

The movies and the original 2003 clone wars cartoon are literally all that matters. The EU was always retarded, and in most cases it contradicts and counteracts the original story far more than it adds and supplements the original story. It was retarded when it was controlled by autistic brony-tier fans, and it's retarded now that it's controlled by disney. Just because there's worse shit now doesn't mean that the old shit is any less shitty. George Lucas canon is the only canon.

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mah muhfukken nigga

The reason moreover Vader didn't solo the entire rebellion, at least in the OT, was because he was old and very slow due to all his mechanical limbs and weakened body. Add to that the fact that palpatine gave him faulty electronics, which meant some asshat rebel could get lucky and hit him in his obviously vulnerable life support monitor right in his chest and kill him in one shot as Vader gasps for air.

On the EU Vaders a supersaiyan and whatnot but on the movies hes a strong wizard guy, who is very killable.

From my point of view the canon is evil!! Hoo hoo

I know that feel, bro

I just started lurking here, goodbye

There's a site much more suited to your tastes, it's called Reddit, you should go there.
Sage because I really just don't want to bump this thread.

Kill yourself. Also. you're clearly that namefag cuck from a week ago. The way you post is a dead giveaway.

the both of you should vacate this thread and website, you don't belong here.

If you cannot appreciate kino then you have no business being here anyway.

you wont be missed.

Fuck off cuck.

A work of art.

you're angry that there's actually something related to Star Wars that's now allowed to stand on its own and not be molested by Hollywood execs, really?

dey dindu nuffin, dey wer jus skared of da empire popo

At the begging of episode 4 the corellian cruiser is literally firing upon a death star. Thats like shooting at the police during a routine traffic stop for speeding. They were guilty of shit before they were boarded regardless of the plans. Them trying to to say they din du nuffin was futile regardless.

FUCK. Star Destroyer, not death star. Been drinking sorry.

Sorry I wasn't born early enough for your liking user…

even though it's stated in episode IV that it hasn't been fired yet….

>Thinking that sheev didn't want to rule the galaxy kill all the jedi and learn of a threat which put his Empire in danger anyway devise a plan to wipe them out as well…

Disney either can't or does not want to do OC. The prequels added so much it was crazy, every film was fresh and full of new things that felt like they had always been a part of Star Wars. The new movies suffer from that sequel problem where all films rather than taking new directions always use the first film as a simple framework from which everything is built. Star Wars used to be better than that.

Don't you try to act you know anything about the force, your sad devotion to that ancient religion don't mean shit. :^)

Disney has never, and will never have any interest in making "original stories"

But why? I can't see the current method to be a viable approach in the long term. People are already losing interest in the nostalgia baiting as seen with the reception of Rogue One.

It's worked for them for over 50 years why not 50 more… :/

Who cares? :^)

Written just like that namefag cuck from a week ago. The way you post is a dead giveaway.

The level of butthurt here is just so precious. I think I am going to go see the movie again, and think about all you so ass sore.

George Lucas said he could die happy***knowing that the worst starwars films won't be made by him :^)*

>pretending the prequels weren't the "horrible pieces of shit" that reddit says they are after they got triggered by them…
you have to go back

Has he done a Rogue One review yet?

That could be possible ancient architecture 1000s of years ago by either the Naboo or Gungans during a time when the gungans where above the surface which possibly led to what drove them under water. but I'm guessing….

not yet..

It's probably why it was a video game.. make an fps game first and, Hey I know why not add a story of whoever got the death star plans to go along with it.

Why didn't they open the door? All the way?
I know

You have to go back

You're dumb.

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At least with Dark Forces we got Jedi Outcast.

Dark Forces 1 & 2 were great games too. The FMVs of DF2 is particularly a guilty pleasure for me. Better watch than TFA tbh.

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or he already knew everything and just decided to fuck with luke

Same reason they didn't just kill all suspected rebels in the first place, and outright stated in Rogue 1; the empire would lose the support of many key systems, making new enemies and escalating the war against them. It's different towards the end of Star Wars (1), because now that the Death Star is complete and proven to be fully operational (in theory) nobody in the galaxy can reasonably stand organised against the empire.
I like this more because it brings Vader's no nonsense attitude in this film to be more in line with Return of the Jedi, which was a clusterfuck that somebody should've tried to fix fucking years ago. Now it's more believable that the ruthless Vader here is the same Vader in ROTJ that turns back to the light side of the force, since his ruthlessness is because he was humiliated by the rebels about an hour ago.

They should just make a Vader movie where he hunts down the remaining Jedi. They could also cover the instances where Vader was on the forefront of various campaigns.

"Original IPs", maybe

Nah, fuck that

No they shouldn't

He is too busy procrastinating.

Disney does not give a shit and neither will the dumbass masses. They'll eat feces as long as it has the Star Wars logo printed on it.


Its amazing how obedient and subservient people like you are.

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According to the fucks at KYM it was the alt-right that started the Empire are nazis meme and that everyone who shits on Rogue One is a nazi and a cis male scum while pretending that it wasn't the director of Rogue One who started this shit with pic-related and their safety pin crap.

Yeah a lot of people fail to remember that Vader wasn't really viewed as 2nd in command within the empire. A high ranking general sure, but he had superiors and peers, if he went around killing literally anyone he wanted there would have been repercussions. It's like if Goebbels tried to personally assassinate the US president Hitler would have been pretty fucking pissed.

And that's why capeshit is so shit.