Lets talk masculinity Holla Forums

Lets talk masculinity Holla Forums

What happened to being a man? It used to be a good thing. It used to actually mean something.

Growing facial hair, dressing up for your profession, being proud to work. Being independent, self sufficient, and good with your hands. Being assertive while at the same time respectful.

None of that is rewarded in modern day, minus working hard, but that's now a requirement if you want to survive.

Women used to crave these men, now they instead marry douche bags who sit in an office chair all day and who are probably overweight. Or instead of the good typical man, they choose the faggot who is beta enough to actually want to marry her and buy her the most expensive ring and have a wedding to show off on facebook. All the while being cucked and cheated on, then paying alimony after the divorce.

Not only marriage either, it's now frowned upon to be a man. We're encouraged to be pussies and express every petty emotion that we have, we're expected to be so cucked that we end up marrying whores with previous kids. We can no longer live on our own effectively unless we were born well-off or work like a slave. We can no longer find the women we want and with enough effort win her over, instead you'll get friend-zoned..

It's now unacceptable to try and actually court women but instead have degenerate sex at parties and get herpes, or only hit on drunk chicks. It's now socially unacceptable to pursue your desires unless the women allows the time and place.

Work that requires heavy physical labor used to earn a man respect and decent money to live on, now they're seen as trash and stepping stones to be used for corporate gain, only to be laughed at by the cucks behind a desk and their harpy wives.

Is there room for masculinity in modern day?

What has happened to masculinity Holla Forums?

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It used to be a thing to get men to do most of the difficult and unpleasant things in life by flattering them. Now it's a thing to get men to do most of the difficult and unpleasant things in life by insulting them, one way or the other.

That or completely disrespect you for busting your ass to make a living. I have more respect for laborers than faggots at a management firm.

This is the biggest one IMO

Women already were semi-encouraged in many social classes and it made them unbearable and also easily manipulated. So they came for women wholesale and the olde-timey conservatives ate it up and called anyone who didn't a dumb hick. Then they came for the men, slowly and with greater purpose. It was inevitable.

all this is this is why I'm a failure in life, but I don't mean to imply that I blame anyone but myself for this, that would be ridiculous

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Ahh yes. I love this topic OP.

Here's a piece of advice for you, something that I noticed recently and something that I am going to start doing as of today.

First, be that man, the one that you are talking about, the assertive and respectful man who knows how to take care of his shit. Second, find a woman who respects you as that kind of man and nothing less.

Easier said than done, no?

Well here's what I'm going to do to achieve that: I'm going to learn how to seduce women, I'm going to learn pickup so that as the man I can be the chooser, not the women, so that I can be the one who chooses which woman I want as the mother of my children, that kind of woman is very rare in this time and age so by the time I find the right girl I would have to go through many unworthy girlfriends and one night stands, this is necessary because it is highly unlikely that I will find my special princess at my first approach and unfortunately this is the way it works in the 21st century, you have to use spam tactics like sending out 100 emails in order to get one reply from a potential client.

You'll get a woman who will always be at the mercy of a better seducer. There will ALWAYS be someone better than a part-time Casablanca like you who just wants to settle down.

Enjoy your broken home, you naive faggot.

jews

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What would you recommend then? By your logic it is impossible to get a wife because there will always be someone better than you to come and steal her away. How do you get a woman then who is impervious to the charms of "casablancas". Seems like you're the faggot here, lmao.

jacket sleeve too long..

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Ummm…. You only need like $20,000 if you have no kids, or a house something like that. Living on your own isn't that hard.

Depending on the area you live in sure.

Working as a wage slave isn't exactly ideal either though.

I'm sure this guy means well, but he sounds like such a fucking normie that I can't stand it.

how do you be a real man without being a normie?

I agree working fucking sucks, but unless you're born rich if you're a woman you can have a shitload of kids you don't really have much of a choice until the great robot utopia comes about.

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It's not that work necessarily sucks either, men used to take pride in their work and were respected for it, more so if they were hard workers.

Now jobs REQUIRE people to work hard without giving them the respect or credit they deserve.

You grow a personality and invest in actual relationships rather than seduction, because the rare "decent wife" is the one who can't be seduced. Or, if you think all women can be seduced by the right tactic, you should obviously not seek a woman unless you're some sort of weakling.


You are pants-on-head retarded and know nothing about labor through human history. Your storybook virtues did not actually govern the world, nor did they put bread on the table. People don't work nearly as hard as we used to, because it's no longer required to survive.

People don't work as hard now as they did then, because they don't have to. Prior to the Industrial Revolution life was short, hard, and boring. Yes it came at the expense of male female relationships, but fuck that shit. I don't want to fucking have to hunt to eat.
Give it a few decades, sexbots will come, then you'll get all the fucking "respect" you want, either from 3DPD, or from your sexbot.

Last night I suddenly realized that cuckquean bot porn was going to be a thing. Like, naked girl next to naked sexbot "Did you think I wouldn't look in the closet? It's that THING or me, choose." and the guy bites his lip and looks back and forth and then presses himself against the sexbot and starts making out and grabbing its ass while it undulates and says sweet programmed nothings, then it pans over to the girl like "AhhhMG" face until she starts for some reason masturbating to it in typical bizarro world porno style.

It will be the gayest shit ever and also hilarious.

Masculinity still gets you laid, thats all you need to know.
Beta orbiters may get the occasional pity fuck from a 4/10 feminist but she won't blow him.
Just be a man.

I can't believe you people are actually serious about this whole sexbot thing, I don't understand how some fucking robot is supposed to replace a real woman and why you would look forward to this shit.

So girls will be cucked by robot?
Fine… You'll still need 3DPD if you want children until we have synthetic wombs so we won't be hunting them for sport yet, and women are naturally beta, so yeah I can see that happening.

just love, companionship, and trust, think what you want, just don't get in the way, and fucks like you should look forward also. Less competition, more pussy for you, and those like you.

It's just the generational antidote to today's cuck porn.

P.S. If the feminazis somehow won (LOL) and reduced male population to 10% of world, men would first be "liberated" and then get eternal victim treatment like the blacks did, gain protected then exalted social status, and be abusive shits….all of this PLUS women would be worshipping them as demigods. It's just the nature of things.


That's because you lack imagination and/or technical knowledge. You're thinking of some jerky assembly-line chrome-dome. I'm thinking of a job coding personalities and vocab based on famous movie stars, or tweaking the subdermal synthetics to give everything just that right life-like cush,

Oh yeah, did I mention custom models with workstations built into their backs/special equipment to cater to "unique" tastes, swappable modules, can teach you things and remind you of things, can be set up with complex conditional schedules, etc, etc

Programmers will put routines in robot code to friend zone any beta male anyway. Good luck hacking that firmware, beta boy.

I know that, but society would be fucked if males only 10% of the population. Women aren't very good at building or maintaining civilization.

Yes, but that just means the 10% WUD BEE KANGZ N SHIT NIGGUH

I'll take sexbots, thanks.
The only society with 1:9 males to females I would be happy to live would be in monster girl land. Being a king is great, but I would like my plumbing to work, and my lights to turn on

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I just bash them over the head with pic related, & drag them off to my rape dungeon

MASCULINITY!!!

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take government away, ppl will have to grow a pair again, my country (usa) is about convenience laziness "let someone else do it" obsession about what people think of you, keeping up appearances, with complacency and no challenge people are bored to death and find things to try and get a leg up over people like "social justice" the castrated domesticated virtue signalling/peacocking

Where I'm from (RSA) the government is screwing it's people over plenty. They make decisions based on advancing their own personal income and fuck their people over time and time again.

What has happened to masculinity Holla Forums?
jews happened

good goy

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Hard work and physical labor has always been for cucks.

From day one, the slave picked up the stone to build the house the rich, powerful man whipping him would then live into.

If you work physical labor, you're a cuck.

If your dad worked physical labor, he was a cuck.

So was his father, and his father before him, your entire family is nothing but cucks.

Only if you're rich and powerful and you get to avoid physical labor and, ideally, make others work for you, only in that case you're not a cuck, instead everyone -but- you is a cuck.

The romanticized image of stronk men picking up stones and chopping woods earning their daily bread is a fairy tale from cucks, to cucks, in order to trick them into thinking they aren't a bunch of cucks.

Even better, that same lie is often spread by those that actually are in power, and want you to remain a cuck your entire life, so they can get all the profit with minimal effort while fucking you directly in the ass like the good little cuck you are.

You're just as big a sissy cuck as the rest of them, OP. Until you live illegally in an underground shipping container, you are a cuck.

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op, i don't know where you live but you have to leave. women want men as much as men want women.
as for working hard, having a stinky beard, dying young and leaving a destitute widow with 5 sick sprogz, take a walk on the wildside.
i've got niggers for the hardwork. wanna job?

so far under-rated comment. would you post more often, user?

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Natural man is a warrior. Join the military or MMA gym.

Compete with the alpha males of the world for the hand of the fairest maidens.

please tell me you live in a hackers hideout and if so post pics for the love of tits

welfare dog
new age roman G-rated colosseum. gladiators were slaves

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lets

Getting harder every year with all the xenoestrogens and other estrogenuous pollutants in food, skin/health products, and the water.

Rome fell when it banned gladiatorial fights and became Christian

Ancient Greece fell when they banned the Olympics

France was alpha as fuck under napoleons conquest hungry leadership

They were the ones raping Muslim girls now they intellectual soft cocks it's the other way around

Nations only develop because of conquest

They decline in times of beta passiveness

The opposite of effeminate is brutality

go on

feminism.

We allowed women to vote. Once you do that. Politicians percieve that as a power base. And will change laws to suit them. Now women place themselves in the work place. They have no need for a nuclear family unit any longer. And men get paid less. Due to the over abundance of people for most positions. Overnight, 51% of the population could do the job a man could do, and when they couldn't. Their voting power changes the laws to force employers to take them.

Changing the laws about rape. Now we also have sexual assault. So grab a womans ass and get convicted of sexual assault, will ban you from jobs just as often as knocking a girl out with a tire iron and raping her in all 3 holes.
Changing the laws to include sexual assault instead of rape/not rape. Gives women control over men through the law.

In a nutshell. That is what happened.

I love when feminism meets reality.

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1st world lady thinks slapping guys is going to get her places. Afterall, men can't hit her. OR so she has been indoctrinated to think.

Those rules don't apply in Thailand

Fucking glorious kick to the face and knock out.

A lot of people blame women, I blame weak men.

funny, but until women's liberation. There were no weak men.
Before the laws were changed to give women the advantage over men. There were no weak men.

Infact, men were so strong. Women complained they had no power. Because power over sex wasn't good enough. They wanted it all.
Now they have the power of sex, law and over family.

No wonder men appear weak. The entire system is against them.

White male, applies for a job. Denied
White woman applies for job, much better chances of getting hired.
Minority woman applies of job, Top tier.

In a world filling with robots, with the corporations outsourcing everything to Asia, this guy thinks women are to blame.

Hey, if women took your jobs, at least the money would stay within the USA! You should be so lucky!

so you just want sex, your poor, but shun showing off on soc.Media. what happened? did someone you care about marry a successful person? he can buy her nice things, and you know it. you know you can't do give her the same things.

of course you can still court women. there are so many other places to find good women. you must be a shut-in who doesn't know how to talk to women. work on it, you'll land a good woman.

when the fuck did Holla Forums degenerate to whiney cunts who complain about everything? you seem like a nice person, so i'll help you.

Holla Forums has ruined your mind. leave that cancerous place
be yourself
go to church
find a woman there
live your life
mind your own fucking business

no, the problem dolt. Is that if you DOUBLE the amount of people looking for work.
Employers will HALF the salaries. Or try to lower the salaries to what they can get away with.

Did that pea size brain of yours ever think "how could a man in the 50's afford to raise a rather large family (average family back then was 3 to 4 kids or more), afford a house and car, all on one salary" And manage to retire comfortably?

YOu fucking idiot.

It's because the 50's were before the womens liberation movement.

Half as many workers then. So companys has to pay more for competing to get workers.

Now they do not have to compete for workers, because women are in the work force en mass.

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This is an international board. Speak for your own country.

And I don't mean "USA". There are 11 distinct nations within the USA.

Women are the majority of voters. Since most people are retards, even among only men, people agreed that letting women vote would be a good idea. The only way to change things is to stand up for ourselves, physically. That will never happen in a world of faggots.

Poor virgin betas thinks this will buy them a good wife. It's really sad. Hollywood is to blame.

A lot of delusion in this post. This isn't the 1950s anymore, faggot, you make it seem easier than it really is. Faggot.

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man

I'd post an image of the jews, but I don't want to infect my computer with an image of trash.

This is not the case.
Current decease of masculinity rises form middle-class. Before rise of middle-class, there were no fatties nor lazy people in these numbers. Our material wealth created abundance that has lead to decline of traditional and religious values.

don't know what shit hole liberal state your from OP but i live in georgia and being a man is still considered the only right thing for a male to do. also i have a father. (sorry fer ya if yer black m8e)

Which are?

Men in the South aren't really men, just obese female enablers. Then again.. I'm in the upland south, boyeeeeeeeeee.

heh a lot are. but that leaves a lotta women for all us good goys

Sounds cool, I would still have to deal with hordes of niggers in the south though.

It still is a good thing. Whatever the media or women tell you, don't stop being a man. Media tells you to stop being a man because they want cucks. Women tell you to stop being a man because the media tells them to tell men to stop being men. When you do the counteract to act - be a man - they will respect you for it.

The rest of your post i discard as bullshit.

While you are not incorrect, if your goal was to imply that people who built the house you get to live in deserve no respect I'm going to call you a dick.
Considering how our society has formed, such an attitude can and often will go unpunished. However, what I'm getting at is that it shouldn't. You should feel indebted to those cucks who built the house you live in and be thankful for the fact that you aren't sleeping in the freezing rain every night.

bump

ok

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YOU ARE A SLAVE.
;^) did i do my impression right?

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