WRITEFAG, BABY!

Do you rely on creative writing for a secret paramilitary government agency to maintain your vital functions?

I'm writing shitty self insert basically fan fiction using half /tg/'s jump chain

I just write when I'm in the mood, a buddy and I have been swapping stories for a while now, it's good fun.

A sci-fi western in the essence of Trigun.

I'm still working out the plot, but it involves a good ol' fashioned quest for revenge, copious amounts of violence, and a lot of weird science fiction/old west technology.

I'm not sure quite yet, first will probably be a long story, but I have lots of episodic stories want to tell in the universe itself. Right now I'm just trying to put the universe together in a somewhat coherent way, before knuckling down and putting together an intelligent plot.

Talking about my ideas with someone else and getting some feedback tends to help with the motivation. I usually jack it beforehand to keep from getting distracted and looking up or writing porn. Which is also why I shy away from writing female protagonists, because I tend to just get bored and start having them do lewd things eventually.

I have been writing a story that centers around the mundane life of a beta the kind of guy who would browse Holla Forums who works at a video game store, but escapes his sad existence with escapism through his virtual reality system that plugs in his consciousness into whatever game he is playing, which is where he truly feels a sense of happiness and achievement.

He is hooked on a new MMORPG that uses a state-of-the-art engine originally used for military training, but was released to the public, making the game as close to reality as possible (in a fictional setting, of course).

However, the game gets hacked and tampered with and the person responsible for doing so reveals to have everyone trapped within the virtual confines of the game, plus the hacker mentions disabling any restrictions that prevented feeling pain, so any damage players take in the game will actually be painful.

So everyone in the game decides that they'll have to get used to living in this world for the time being until someone figures out how to get out. There are several factions scattered across the game world which the protagonist interacts with and a game world that mixes the typical "swords and magic" with more modern elements like vehicles and firearms.

There is no permadeath or "you die in the game, you die for real" consequences, but when you die in the game, you are resurrected as a ghoul-like creature in an underworld where you have to figure your way out to regain your original appearance, gear, stats, etc.

I know any user who read this must be thinking about how much of a faggot I am for pretty much using SAO and any other "trapped in a virtual world" story's concept, but a weeb friend and I watched the show in its entirety and I feel like there is so much potential for a kind of story like this, but it was ruined by things like the edgy anime protagonist and a series of other issues.

I am using the foundation that has been set by stories like this, but removing waifushit edgy protagonist and expanding more on the game itself.

Would love to hear some thoughts on the idea or someone to discuss it with since /lit/ is fucking dead.

An american ex-patriot living in Poland joins the national police force. He eventually joins the riot-police tasked with preventing refugees from the now defunct Germany from swarming into the border city of Gubin.
Eventually the 'germans' break through and rampage through the town. The Main Character and two swarthy Russians are in an armored car with the sole objective of stopping the 'germans' at any cost. So they cut down a few hundred of them after they fail to heed their warnings, eventually they swarm them killing the Russians and leaving the MC for dead. For his bravery the MC gets commendations, but the USA demands he be repatriated for slaughtering 'civilians' and eventually goes underground.

A couple years later the Polish government tracks him down to the middle of bumfucknowhere Latvia. They need a inside man on the first interstellar manned flight, someone who will do whatever it takes to prevent something horrible from coming back to earth.

Basically, the MC was just the driver and never actually did anything. The entire portion where he's in space is him being extremely paranoid about being found out by the 500 or so other people on-board.

I haven't decided on what planet they'll go to or how it will all go terribly wrong but I'm having fun and I've got 40 pages down.

3 teenagers, friends, Alexandra "Al", Kelsey, and Ramon, live in the slums. The slums are controlled by a powerful street gang who call themselves the Royals.

Each of them finds themselves on the shit end of the stick when, over the course of the week, each of them is screwed over by the Royals in one way or another.

On Monday, Al's father is badly injured in a mugging and hospitalized. While the doctor's say he'll make a full recovery, he's still going to be out of work for a while. With rent, utilities, and now Hospital bills looming overhead, Al needs to find a way to make a lot of money, and fast, otherwise she, her father, and her younger brother will be on the streets.

Kelsey's family owns a small convenience store. On Wednesday night, the Royals pull off the ultimate smash and grab by driving a van through the front window and making off with everything they can carry, they leave thousands of dollars worth in damages in their wake. Because the business wasn't insured, the money is going to have to come from their own pockets. But it's money they don't have.

On Friday, Ramon is stiffed a hefty sum of money that he earned by pulling a job for the Royals. Money he was intending to use to buy hookers and cocaine.
Okay, so when I haven't fully developed something, I tend to throw in random bullshit as a place holder. So he wasn't actually going to use the money for hookers and cocaine, I just don't know what he was gonna use the money for yet. All I know is he needed it.

On Saturday, the three of them meet up at the usual place and shoot the shit about their week. Over the course of the conversation, Al comes to the realization that they should make the Royals pay for everything. Literally. With money. Money that they will steal from them. And to her surprise, her friends are up for it.

So they end up pulling off a heist, after the traditional set up and gathering of the shit they need to do the job. It's ultimately successful though shit goes crazier than they planned, but one of the Royals recognises Ramon.
As the trio celebrate their victory, the Royals begin preparing to hit the only face they can place at the robbery. Ramon.

And that's the first arc or whatever I guess. Shit snowballs from there.

Which jumps and where can I read it?

And that is the only reason there's so much Familiar of Zero fanfiction.

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Holy shit, you're not wrong. When I looked up "Familiar of Zero", the first suggestion I got was the fanfiction.

Sounds like a solid idea. Are all these characters PoC? Because that would be so very triggering.

You disappoint me, user.

Story of females and possibly a spic (judging from the name) doing things that doesn't give them a positive image and shows that minorities and women aren't perfect creatures?

Spaacebattles creative writing forum has I don't know, 40+ threads on the subject and a few generals.

You can take a few ideas from them, if you want.

Thanks for the tip, user. I will make sure to check it out and see if there are any interesting ideas I can steal :^) get inspired from.

Al is mulatto, Ramon is some kind of Spanish, and Kelsey a filthy Slav

Yes

I've also got another capeshit idea (I really like capeshit) that is essentially a love letter to the superhero genre and the plethora of tropes that it spawned.

The story is basically Spider-Man mixed with Blue Beetle, Green Lantern, and a dash of Ben 10.

So I've got two main protagonists, the classic straight white male: Ryan Scott, and the stand-in for the severely underrepresented latino demographic: James Ortega. They are high school students (this is where the Spider-Man and Blue Beetle influences come from)

They live in New Rockwell, USA, the bustling metropolis of the northwest. Their lives are quite boring and dull. They go to school, deal with bullies, go home, shoot the shit and go to bed. Then they do it all over again the next day. Teenager stuff.

Meanwhile, light years away, a notorious pirate has finally been captured. The bane of the United Galactic Worlds stands trial for terrorizing over twenty star systems, his crimes including pirating, mass murder, slave trafficking, smuggling, and vandalism.

The scum is sentenced to serve his time in stasis on a prison ship. However, the pirates crew come to free him, assaulting the massive prison vessel with everything they have. The prison ship escapes, going to warp speed, but not before being heavily damaged. When the prison ship finally leaves warp, the ship finds itself on a collision course with a primitive garden world with no way to prevent it.

Back on Earth, Ryan and James witness some bullies tormenting a freshman. Against their better judgement, the two heroes intervene.

A couple of black eyes later, Ryan and James sit outside the principals office, waiting for their legal guardians to collect them. Not a good way to end the school day.

Narrowly avoiding suspension, Ryan and James move on, now finding themselves the new target of the school bullies.

On the bright side, the kid they stood up for was the young brother of [Insert Hot Female Archetype Here]. She invites them to a party she's throwing because they proved to be a couple of pretty cool guys.

So, the night of the party arrives. Our heroes dress their best and head out in style in James' mother's 2002 Ford Windstar.

Meanwhile, in orbit, the crew of the prison ship manage to slow the ship's descent. The ship is certainly lost, but at least they won't destroy a primitive civilization.

Ryan and James arrive at the girl's house, only to learn from her younger brother that the party location changed last minute to an isolated place on the outskirts of town, in the expensive gated communities near the woods.

So, the guys head out again, pissed at being late.

They get lost along the way, driving through the lonely roads weaving through the woods.

Then…. BOOM!

Prison ship makes landfall. Lots of flattened tries, lots of fire falling from the sky, lots and lots of debris.

Only two scared teenagers, though. Two teenagers who saw the whole thing.

Because they are stupid teenagers, they investigate. It only takes them a few seconds to realize it was not a meteor. No, definitely not. Not with the hull of the ship sticking out of the ground like a massive unearthed fossil.

Teens inspect wreckage. Teens get superpowers.

Ryan gets an alien device latched on his wrist. It's an alien exoskeleton armor, a la Blue Beetle. It's a security model worn by guards, so he doesn't have all the fancy do-dads the soldier model has. He can fly, shoot energy bolts, and is impervious to most human firearms.

James get's exposed to the ship's drive core. Cosmic radiation grants him cosmic energy powers, a la Human Torch. He can fly, shoot streams of cosmic energy, and is far more durable while "on mode".

Ryan and James are now Hornet and Comet, superheroes of New Rockwell.

Not very original, but it's meant to be a celebration of the classic tropes, not a subversion of them.

I've got several ideas for villains for them to fight, but the their main nemesis is supposed to be the alien pirate on the prison ship that crashes. There's also this Lex Luthor/Norman Osborn character I'm playing around with, but I'm still trying to figure out how to get him to be anything beyond a morally corrupt billionaire.

I'm also in the process of creating a supporting cast, including family, friends, rivals, and love interests. One thing I know for certain is that the leader of the bullies I mentioned before is supposed to be black.

You know, just to be triggering.

Not 'bad', just not productive. When I write porn that's just for me I'm wasting time that could be spent working on one of the seven billion stories I want to write.

Sounds like a fun idea. At least you are aware of fact that there are a lot of capeshit tropes in the story. A kind of story like that needs to be self-aware to be worthwhile and fun.

If you start taking it too seriously and have all these silly tropes, it's going to come out pretty mediocre like Batman vs Superman.

Shiiiiiiiieeeeet we dindu nuffin.

You holding out on us, user?

This is the internet, bucko. Porn is for all of us.

That's right, it's all for me. Besides, it's not like porn of characters you knew nothing about'd be appealing anyway.

Yeah, because porn usually has a deep lore and lengthy continuity with a large and diverse ccast of characters, each with their own unique backstories and histories.

You just want free porn, user, admit it. Don't you have enough of that already? Is the fact that I've got a couple bits I haven't shared really bothering you?

I got one.

A friend a while back wanted me to flesh out a setting for a vidya he never made. It was going to be a contemporary-tech/high-fantasy Western RPG with some extremely deep party interaction system where you'd pick one character, and how you conflicted with other characters would determine how their classes evolved such as if you could cure the Engineer of his hatred of magic, he'd become an Artificer who could support the mage and vice-versa, but if you made it worse, he'd become a "Troubleshooter" and specialize as a mage and monster hunter that revolved around silver bullets and arc gauntlets. I dunno if my friend is still using this or not, but he hasn't said anything and dodges questions on it now, so fuck it.

The idea was, in the near future, an alien world with magic has some bad guy try to merge their world with some demonic plane, but a band of heroes fucks it up, causing the ritual to instead eat the Earth. Portals open up, and elves, orcs, dwarves, cat-people, dragon-people, and other high-fantasy races begin to interact with humans. It doesn't go smoothly at first, with the fantasy people thinking humans are demons, and humans blowing them up in retaliation. The heroes that fucked up everything at the start can't stop the ritual in time because of the war, and Earth gets absorbed into the magic world. Humanity doesn't adjust to fighting magic very well and 80% of them are wiped out in the conflict before the elves realize what's happening and they call off their crusade. Humans bitterly band together, start a handful of countries based on common languages, (Britannia, der Fünfte Reich, and a Francophone empire I don't got a name), and begin claiming the new land that the planet gained by absorbing Earth.

The players started around the time Britannia decided to get one back on the Elves by inciting slave rebellions among the cat-people, causing the cats to kick the elves out of a breadbasket region near the humans and form their own nation, causing a huge strategic shift in the continent as the cats now get actual rations and the humans get the surplus instead of the elves. Meanwhile, humans are getting used to dealing with magic and discover that electricity is a bit of an Achilles Heel for magic users, causing a kick-up of weapons like tasers and stun gloves, to advanced things like arc casters. Additionally, the common knowledge that silver weapons are devastating to evil things is shared with humans, and development begins for a recipe of silver alloys that are inexpensive yet do the job.

There was going to be mentions that Dwarvish and Elvish states allied with the Germans and the French, respectively. Additionally, the dragon-people were going to be seen as denizens of dragon god-kings that each governed their own kingdoms. While some of the dragon-people offered their blood to humans as a way to gain magic abilities, and some humans did accept the offering, many humans were understandably extremely raw about losing 4/5ths of their population. A strong anti-magic sentiment formed, and many humans see accepting magic as a betrayal to humanity. This rejection of magic earns the ire of the dragons, and in turn, the dragon-people and elves, but earns respect from the cat-people, who culturally see magic as the tool responsible for enforcing their enslavement, causing a similar sentiment among their people.

Since my friend isn't doing anything with it, I started doodling around it and some characters have formed:

This is really my first go, so it's about 90% spit-balling.

Self-aware is what I'm somewhat trying to go for.

At this point it's pretty difficult to do something fresh and original with capeshit that doesn't involve tearing down all the tropes that make capeshit fun.

Take Mark Millar's Kick-Ass for example. While the movie ended up being reconstruction under Matthew Vaughn, Millar's original work was a cynical scathing look at masked vigilantes.I loved the movie, but hated the book for those reasons.

As for BvS, I'm in the camp that enjoyed it but can understand why the people who hate it feel the way they do.

As someone who is accepting of different interpretations of long-lasting characters, I can appreciate what Zack Snyder was attempting to do in BvS. However, with these icons placed so far out of their comfort zone, I can easily see how that can turn people off.

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well, to be honest, I do like some introduction to my porn.
Also, what you said is basically the reason I go for r34 more often than for real porn - because I enjoy seeing characters that I know in sexual situations more than random boobchicks

I might post some if you're well behaved.

Also this, the reason r34 is so appealing is because it's characters I know and find attractive being displayed in pornographic situations.

Well, I am all for different interpretations. If we were being nitpicky, technically every Batman or Superman or any superhero comic after the original creator is just a glorified fanfiction since other writers will never try to recreate what the original writers made exactly, and they probably don't want to.

I don't mind the dark, brooding, grimdark Batman, especially since I did enjoy Bale's performance in TDK.

It's just that this whole movie had this conflicted sense of pretentiousness but also had moments where it tried to be a fun, popcorn flick.

Didn't hate it, didn't really love it. Again, just kind of mediocre.

DINGDINGDINGDINGDING

Yes, I need some world building and lore establishing before I see a chick getting creampied.

Send us that link nigga. Every good work needs to be reviewed by peers. :^)

God, I love mixing Sci-Fi and Fantasy.

And I really, really love that it appears Africa got destroyed in your setting.

It's so deliciously problematic.

Fuck you

I actually like the idea of one character just being in screwing over the bad guys for them screwing himself out of selfish hedonism.

If you want to snowball it, I cooked up a thing a while back about guys with random skills who where fucked over one way or another by a drug syndicate, and they begin waging a guerilla war on them in Mexico: stealing money, burning down drug houses, IED-ing drug runners, assassinating high-ranking members of the syndicate. As the story went on, all the members get killed at some point and then replaced with people who continue the fight.

If it's something you'd go with, you can go at it.

Well… the land itself wasn't destroyed, just absorbed into the new world.

But the idea was before everything got swallowed up, a necromancer tries to claim the continent for himself, kills every human there, and resurrects them as the undead. Then it all just gets obliterated.

'Review', right bby ;^)

Well then, no porno for you.

So I guess you could say the necromancer used black magic

Fuck me, the site ate the image.

That's actually similar to how I planned the snowball.

After the Royals retaliate, the trio realizes they (and their families) won't be safe, because the Royals will just keep coming at them. So they start systematically dismantling the Royals one operation at a time, crippling them financially and then launching a final assault. In the end, they Royals are destroyed, and the trio go back to living their normal lives

For about a day.
The sudden destruction of the Royals leaves a power void, which every 2 bit thug wants to fill, resulting in an all out gang war. The trio ends up getting involved in the war, since they see it as their fault. They thought taking down the Royals would fix things, not just for them, but for the whole community, seeing as the Royals victimized anyone not connected to their gang. But, instead of making things peaceful, it made things even more chaotic and dangerous than it was when the Royals were in power. So they can either wait the war out and end up suffering under whatever new gang rises to power, or they can be the ones to rise to power and control shit their own way. But to do that they'll need to fight it out with every scumbag and lowlife the slums has to offer.

That's actually the case, though.
I prefer seeing a chick I know outside of porn get creampied, rather than a chick I'm seeing for the first time.
The psychological element is just as important to arousal as the visual element.

To be honest, I can't argue with that. The idea does sound more appealing.

So if you saw your sister in a porn, you'd be into that.
you sick fuck

Incest is hot, fuck you.

Their actions have consequences. I like that.

So many stories have female characters acting irrationally and on impulse and they suffer nothing for it.

Every modern Young Adult novel, almost every story where the female characters are just self-inserts of the author and are meant to be perfect because they are just some wish fulfillment and having flaws is a no-no because that means women aren't goddesses and that would mean that the PATRIARCHY wins, shitlord. :^)

You.

I like you.

Whole thing started as an alteration of World of Darkness setting, that eventually evolved into it's own home-brew game. Since I don't play tabletop anymore just don't want the setting go to waste. I and am also sick of all the drivel full of romance and "hilarious nerdy references *wink wink, nudge nudge*" made by self insert main characters that must save the world over and over again that are prevalent in urban fantasy stories.

Setting: Urban fantasy. World is ruled by various competing conspiracies of supernatural creatures, cults, and orders who want to use humanity for their own means, be it feed in case of vampires or just to summon demonic gods and start apocalyptic event to reshape the world in case of some cultists. Story takes place in a large, Midwestern metropolis (a mash up of Chicago, Milwaukee, and Detroit with more of a Gothic and industrial edge to it) that is slowly decaying. Many politicians and businesses are manipulated and corrupted by supernatural conspiracies, and monsters use disguises to blend in and find preys better. World is slowly going to hell, and everyone can feel it, although they can't quite explain why.

Comic book, since I am a drawfag. Probably short arcs that can be read independently of one another, sort of like Atomic Robo, Hellboy, and Usagi Yojimbo are done.

Main character gets dragged into supernatural underworld, after being turned into a monster when being in a wrong place at the wrong time. Instead of moping, he is more of a stoic that decides to just make best of out the circumstances. He learns his new strengths and weaknesses, as well as he doing what it takes to survive and avoiding being a pawn in cities' supernatural politics as much as possible. No saving the world, no romance, just a guy trying to get by and making some allies and enemies along the way.

Driving around at night, urban exploration, visiting old buildings, looking at pictures of how cities changed, reading urban legends, myths, and folk tales.

Sorry user, but you don't seem to know that much about Poland.

Thank you, user. :^)

Sounds real neat. Already a lot more interesting than the "Darkness is coming!" world is ending scenario and a "chosen one" has to save it all and keep it together.

Man, when even Gail Simon of all writers is saying that it's becoming a problem, you know it's become a problem

Although, her solution to fixing the problem is having people get mildly annoyed at her characters and might reply to them with a sarcastic remark that could hurt their feelings. :^(

Wasn't Simone the one who wrote that Wonder Woman wankfest that was story-timed on here a little while ago?

The one where Batman is incapacitated so Oracle calls in Wonder Woman who is so perfect and awesome that she handles the chaotic Gotham City all by herself and reforms Batman's villains with her feminine purity. And the people of Gotham love her so much that they install a Wonder Woman symbol on the roof the GCPD so they can call her instead of Batman.

Simone is trash.

That's the one she "wrote" and I use that term lightly, because it seemed like something someone shits out while they are spitballing and not something to actually consider writing AND be taken seriously.

Simone is a prime example of why women fucking suck at writing and pretty much everything

All I know is, a while back, she tweeted that treating women as these untouchable, flawless things who can do no wrong was a bad thing.

Lady tweets like crazy, I'm not even gonna TRY and slog through her feed to find it

heh

Not the guy you're talking to, but I've written a few chapters for a capeshit fapfiction story. I could post the link to it if you fellas are looking to get some jollies tonight.

It's set in a porn parody X-Men universe, just so you know.

Just from the way that entry is written I can tell that the author is so very, very TRIGGERED.

Sure, might be cool.

Thank you. There is still a lot of fleshing out to do when it comes to characters, especially the protagonist. I want to make him grow over the course of the stories, and while he would get better, he would get some scars too. I am really afraid of falling into shounen trap of constantly raising power levels, but I also would like him to seek ways to improve, learn new tricks, and get some equipment. This is the main hurdle right now, which is even harder, since I am not that much of a writefag.

I can kind of bypass it by just doing the origin, and then fast forward to him being strong enough to go on while being able to keep things constrained, but it would be more fun to see MC getting scammed out of money by buying useless artifact or watching him encounter different factions for the first time.

She just probably shat it out at the last minute. She can write decently enough when she tries unless she hired a ghost writer for her 1st try at Secret Six, but most of the time she seems to just be going through the motions. All of hers that I read is just Secret Six, so I don't hate her as a writer nearly as much as most over here.

At least Simone isn't (or at least wasn't) afraid to put some cheesecake in her stuff and complained when DC censored used speech balloons to censor bare ass shots of one of the female characters in Secret Six.

What is this god damn anime tier convenient hair censoring garbage?
SHOW ME THE GOODS!

Come on, was it that big of a surprise? Nowadays, criticism is punishable by death, so writers will use any victim tactics to show that their writing is perfect and it's "toxic masculinity" that can't handle strong women character so they label them with such disgusting, vile words as "mary sue".

Sounds like a good time. :^) Post it if you want, but there is no pressure.

My advice, if you don't want this to become a shounen story, don't make your protagonist's motivation for what he does be "to become the strongest".

It's fine if you have the protagonist get knocked down, and learn from his mistakes. I think that's kind of the point when it comes to a character that feels human and not just walking, talking wish fulfillment.

Personally, I would enjoy seeing the protagonist as a naive scamp so I can feel happy for him once he finally bucks up. I wouldn't feel as connected if I didn't him fail before he eventually succeeds.

That's just me. You're the boss of your story, friend.

It's 2337/1507 now.

The catharsis factor is a big deal for me. The best books and movies are the ones about people working for their triumph. That's why stuff like Rocky and Karate Kid are remembered so fondly, aside from actually being good movie. They spend the whole movie getting dumped on and suffering through grueling training that when they finally get their win, it's that much more satisfying for the audience.

A lot of writers - many of which are female YA writers - want the victories to be immediate, ex. the female lead is so very special and different without even trying. The Force Awakens is stuffed full of this crap.

At least in A New Hope, Luke got his ass kicked a few times. Hell, the first time he faces Vader, he gets his shit pushed in.

Well, here it is.

I posted the links to every website I posted it to, so you big guys can choose the place you prefer.

fanfiction.net/s/11727738/1/XXX-Men-Son-of-Wolverine

hentai-foundry.com/stories/user/ImCIA/19558/XXX-Men-Son-of-Wolverine

xmen.adult-fanfiction.org/story.php?no=600091450

I've spent the last year re-writing this fucking capeshit story. At this point, I don't even want to sell it, I just want it out there as a web novel.

Basically the story was an ode to Sliver Age/Bronze Age. It was inspire by "Soon I will be invincible." Basically this 15 year old kid gets his super-powers in a lab accident. He can shoot beams of energy out of his hands and what not. So, the Government set him up with a trainer of sort; another guy that has the same "breed" of powers. Since the kid wants to be a cape, he honesty can't wait. Since he wanted to be partner with a specific hero.

Problem is, the person that the Government set him up with was a guy that gotten his powers sixteen years earlier and was only an hero for four years. In that period he was small time and considered an failure while his former friend grew and became a celebrity throughout the world.

Said Hero is the kid's idol.

Oh it's rough between them the first few weeks; the trainer is annoyed by the kid's questions delusions and the fact that the fucker managed to get the government into adopting an actual costume; the kid believes the trainer is a bitter asshole that jealous of the hero. but my goal is to have the duo gradually warm up to one another.

Except The trainer warms up to the kid, and goes through with his schemes, he hates anyone else.

Mostly I wanted it to be a character piece on expectations and whatever or not they succeed. I already have it in mind; I just want to put it down on the screen.

Honesty, getting this out was a chore.

Hory shit, I forgot that site even existed.

I am glad the gap is getting smaller and it seems the dislikes will overtake it eventually. My guess is a cis white mail told the writer of that definition that her self-insert characters are Mary sues and that she give them more depth and some possible flaws, so she instinctively frothed at the mouth and decided to use her Oppression points to conjure up a fucking ridiculous definition such as that one.

Then again, urban dictionary is pretty retarded, so I am not surprised.

Because women really have no grasp of what it's like to truly work hard for something and how good it feels to accomplish something because YOU worked for it. They can pretend to know what it's like "I'm fighting the patriarchy and fighting to close the wage gap xDDD", but they will never honestly know what it's like to put blood, sweat, and tears into something. Life is on easy mode for them, even more so in (((CURRENT YEAR))).

Besides, why would YA female writers want their main characters to struggle? Since their protagonists are usually glorified self-inserts of the writers themselves, the fact that the protagonist faces hardships implies that the writer is not a perfect gift sent from the heavens.

Don't get me started. I am one of those guys that is always active on Holla Forums threads that shit on The Feminist Awakens and the New Rogue One movie.

Thanks, goy. :^)

U U U U

I know that feel. Been drafting up a story for almost a year now and I just want to share it with people and not just keep it to myself.

Like I mentioned to a previous user. It'd be a good idea if you keep some self awareness and remember that capeshit is goofy and always has been. You can make it character driven/focused, but don't try to be too heavy handed with your messages on expectations or it might be a bit of a turn off for quite some people.

If you don't enjoy writing it, then don't write it. You could always come up with another capeshit-related story that you have more fun with. Whenever you start feeling like it becomes too tedious, I suggest you take a break and recharge. If you constantly feel that way, it's probably just not a story you enjoy writing at all.

I posted these guys up on the character thread but didn't get much feedback on the script progress.

scribd.com/doc/305470505/Tom-and-Artie

Tom and Artie is a comic about two dimension hopping mercenaries. It follows their adventures as they take contract after contract to keep their pockets full. The comic draws influence from Sam and Max along with various other buddy-cop films.

Truly, there is still hope for man.

Nah, it's still goofy, for fuck sakes I have plans for the kid to team up with a Japanese superhero team and fight giant crab people.

Hell, the first "story" is the trainer walking behind the kid and pointing out every cliche with utmost casualnessincluding pointing out a doomsday device that hadn't been used since 1959 is most likely broken and is of no danger to the country. Thus making the story all for naught
The real fun is the fact that the kid is so serious on being a hero that he even walk a grandma across the street.
My goal was to make the reader figured it out on their own. I have other themes that won't be commented on so I know how to be subtle.

[Dem Satanic trips]
I like it. It's funny.

Fucking Loony Toons mang. It's beautiful. I actually had a character in my setting that is mostly Popeye the sailor. He is a send up to old cartoons logic.

Ironically he's still the deadliest son of a bitch in the setting. And the only character the Trainer actually likes from the start of the story.

Been working on making a /tg/ setting, so I've been writefagging some stuff for it in an attempt to flesh out the fluff. The basic idea was to "deconstruct" (I hate that word) your typical fantasy setting. You know how usually magic exists, everyone knows it exists and uses it, but the world is still medieval Europe? Well, I wanted to do a thought experiment and see how much the world would change after magic came back.

Autism incoming, you've been warned.

First off, the story takes place in a world after a magical apocalypse hit. People somehow survived, but the typical medieval fantasy setting is now a thing of the past - the world is slowly breaking apart, a new cold age is dawning near, monsters pop up everywhere. What used to be a low-fantasy setting back suddenly gets hit with Lovecraftian horrors and magic becoming available to everyone. And unlike the usual "everyone suddenly hates magic" shit, people here went insane with it - after all, if you could heal any wound with little effort just by uttering a couple words, wouldn't you do it? Or would you stick around and wait?

The downside here is that abusing magic slowly kills the world. Each time you heal a wound, the rules that govern how flesh works get a bit wonky. Teleport around? Space begins to bend in on itself. You get the idea - magic is slowly killing how the world should work. Everyone's aware of it, to some degree, but people don't want to stop using magic because it's just so convenient. This is also why monsters suddenly started popping out - the rules that govern how shit should work are fucked up, so stuff that shouldn't be (like, say, trolls) suddenly shows up. Women give birth to beastmen, old wounds become maws that want to eat your family, all the good stuff.

This is why nature itself started its own monster program. Nature realized that the world is fucking dying, and is now desperately trying to fend off the disease (magic) by creating its own abominations to go out and kill the worst offenders. I did this partially because I wanted druids to have a more important role in the setting besides being "nature priests". So here, they really are intermediaries between a pissed off Mother Nature and the common folk.

Another thing is that magic slowly reshapes the world according to the will of the people. So when enough people believe in something, magic will make that something real, reality be damned. This is why gods actually started showing up, instead of being vague motherfuckers. Belief in them brought them back.

And it's also why necromancers are an important caste of society - the dead remember how the world used to be before, so it's better to keep them around and have them remember the old world. Their collective memories slow down the world breaking apart through magic. That's why most of society is ruled by a necrocracy and a council of undead elders.

Naturalized polish citizens.

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Anyway, the main character of the story is a dude who awakens in a field of corpses. He remembers nothing, has no idea who he is or what he is, and sets out to see who he actually is (while exploring the world and getting the reader familiar with it).

The catch is that he actually has no memories of his own, as he used to be a vessel for a body-switching god. Said god also had some really vicious and powerful enemies, who are after the MC's sorry ass because they think that he can be used in finding the god's new host.

Then it shifts into political intrigue and clusterfucks, alongside some adventuring, as the MC stumbles into both mortal and immortal politics, tries to set things right that his past self fucked up, and shit like that.

Think Planescape: Torment meets Berserk, while Sandman goes on in the background.

Thing is, training your ass off to get better for this one specific thing can be used only so many times, and it is as prevalent in things such as DBZ, as sudden powerups from getting angry. Do it enough times, and it will be boring.

My plan was to kind of get around it by making it difficult for protagonist to find a proper mentor due to his unique condition - I am toying with an idea of him going through couple different ones before finding someone competent enough. After he does, it would begin an ongoing tutelage/apprenticeship, gradually developing his skills and expanding arsenal of amulets, charms, and other magical items (at either large monetary cost or effort). Main character would then develop his own niche in the supernatural underworld and wanted to be left alone for the most part.

He would never get powerful enough to go against centuries old vampires, packs of werewolves, or archmages, but he would definitely be above an average supernatural being after some time. It would happen gradually, with him sucking at first and mostly being a tag along when someone more competent deals with danger.

At least they didn't force artist co cover her up with shadows from neck down.

Yeah, but being from Poland myself and having relatives who do police work back in Poland, Russians (even if they were naturalized citizens) wouldn't be welcome in the ranks. In parts due to current Political climate, but also because of behavior of Milicja and Russian military during communist period and overwhelmingly strong presence of Russians and people with ties to Russia have in the criminal world in Poland.
It could be somewhat mitigated if in your setting Poland and Russia would somehow become genuine allies for the first time in over a thousand years.

Sounds promising.

That's pretty clever, seeing how magic is a form of energy.

For the Francophone Empire, how about something classy and grand, like "The Imperial Realm" in French?

I like it, a demonym could be "Impérials" and they could commonly (and mistakenly) called "Royals" by antagonists.

Her hair is too long. She should cut it.

Well, they changed the website from dot net to dot org for some reason. So, technically the original website no longer exists.

But whatever, porn is porn.

So, what you're saying is: He wants to be the very best? Like no one ever was?

Saw this post before in the OC threads, probably one of the highest quality designs I have seen on Holla Forums for a while, but you never really posted your script on that thread, so I am glad I finally get a chance to see these characters in action.

I like the script so far, and it's what I pictured given your description of what the characters do and since it's similar to Sam and Max.

Would love to read the work in its entirety when it is completed.

Sounds like a good time. I would definitely read that, especially since fanmade projects that are love letters to superhero comics that can still show how silly they can be is already 100x better than anything from the (((CURRENT YEAR))) comics industry.

Sounds pretty good. Pretty creative in terms of a setting and it does break the typical tropes surrounded by magic in a medieval setting.

Dammit, I replied to myself. That part was meant for

What I'm saying is, He's romanticized the idea of being a hero from watching movies and tv shows.

He wants to be a hero. Not the best Hero but an Hero.

I do admit I realize I'm edging dangerously close to shouen-faggotry but I trust myself to not fall into that trap.

A post about Superman falling in a brown shithole, but superman is actually blonde and with green eyes, so he is drawn to nationalist socialism, but he's tame and moderate, he doesn't go around killing brownies.
In the middle he'd discover Holla Forums and be in touch with other alternative political ideologies, like monarchism, libertarianism, and browse tumblr sometimes to get revulsed at the new left. Even Holla Forums would get a say on that, even if they're a bunch of faggots.
The idea would be that the message should be that everyone feels squicky about SJWs and that they should try not being such smartass know-it-alls that get so combative and upity that it's annoying.
There'd also be elements of a conspiracy using them as useful idiots, perhaps? Using the jews would be cliche.
It'd be like Red Son but modern and actual.

If I ever wrote it in the form of a long thing instead of just a post, it'd in the form of a comic, but locked in a safe because it'd be embarrasing to have it, I'd be accused of being edgy, and I'd probably even burn it. Also, I don't know how to draw (working on that sometime soon).

The issue with this is that it's easy to tell that Superman will be a mouthpiece for the writer, in this case, you. When that happens, you'll be stooping down to the levels of those faggots who make those comics where they're characters are preaching about how "muh patriarchy", "muh sexism", "muh oppression" that all have shitty strawmen arguments to make them have some moral high ground/intellectual superiority.

As much as I would enjoy a comic of Superman curb stomping BLM or any SJW, you need to be a little more clever with the story rather than directly writing about these types of people in the real world.

Replace the SJWs with some alien group that try to get others to assimilate with subliminal messaging or something like that. Don't just make them rainbow haired losers, that would be too easy.

Well, I'm sort of thinking about scrapping part of the story and starting it in a polish space colony instead. I'll probably go the gundam route and make the colonies huge rotating cylinders so I can keep the armored car in.

How much cheese cake is too much cheese cake? One of the characters in my comics is going to be a shape shifter able to turn into animals. Character is a woman, so it would solve some issues regarding easily getting in and out of clothing, since a woman in a coat or oversized hoodie but with bare legs will raise far fewer eyebrows than guy wearing stuff like that. However, some nudity will be unavoidable. How do I make it tasteful? I don’t want to use hacky stuff like censor speech bubbles, and I am not too keen on going with the bare minimum like they did for Dr. Manhattan.

Tasteful? My opinion, go for ass-shots rather than full-frontal. People can handle bare butts and they think its all artist or some shit.

You could also play with lighting. You don't want to show her goods? Cover her in shadows so that we can make out her profile but we get no real details. Titillating cheesecake but without the hard nudity.

If you don't have a splash page with her fucking either a dog or a horse you might as well scrap the entire thing/

Now I know this is Holla Forums and that we're all degenerates here, but…

Maybe you shouldn't add a cocktease shape shifter that won't even take the knot.

Would it be inappropriate to drop my favorite fanfics here?

If we're posting fapfiction, I suppose none of you goys would mind if I linked to some faptastic capeshit porn parodies.

I guess…

What this guy said.

You can also play with poses and angles so that her goods are covered by the rest of her body.

Go for it, goyim. :^) Hopefully there is plenty of race mixing

Well, sure, if I find any fics of Nordic God Thor colonizing T'Challa's exotic mutant wife, Ororo, I'll be sure to post it.

You can never go wrong with side-boob. As long as there is no visible nipple, you're in the clear.

I think you're underestimating how degenerate some people here are.

A suggestion on /qu/ is to never let your players have any say in character generation, otherwise someone won't shut up until you're playing a loli futa catgirl with a horse cock and semen cannon powers. Are they doing it to piss you off, or are they doing it because they're legitimately into that kind of fucked up shit? Nobody knows and doesn't want to.

Red XXX by seriousish - fanfiction.net/s/11596431/1/Red-XXX

Thanks tbh fam.

Marry the Knight by seriousish - fanfiction.net/s/9897805/1/Marry-The-Knight

The Gwen Stacy Syndrome by seriousish - fanfiction.net/s/10038836/1/The-Gwen-Stacy-Syndrome

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Author doesn't do yaoi shit either. It's always either lesbians or harem stories. It's fucking great.

It's the fucking promised lands. Never thought I would find a writer with so many stories and the writer doesn't do yaoi shit.

President Wayne by CobaltAC - fanfiction.net/s/11297960/1/President-Wayne

There is never enough cheesecake, user. Never.

So he wants to off himself? Bold storytelling user.

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Thanks anons. Another thing that comes to mind is to use the things in the foreground to obscure stuff. It is kind of lame thing to do, but could work decently if played for jokes.

I expected that response sooner, honestly. I understand the sentiment, but too much cheesecake in a comic can be distracting and take away from it's allure.

All I wanted to make was a shapeshifter qt3.14 whose preferred form is a cat. I hope it is fine too. I don't want to go overboard with making her too catgirly.

You're welcome, guy.

Yeah, I suppose that's true. Of course it's cringeworthy, though, so it's just some loud thinking. Just a thing, though, I'm not a nazi, as my country has suffered a similar ideology during (most of) my lifetime, and just yesterday, for example, the neofascist crowds attacked a few journalists, so in fact they disgust me. But the idea is that if the one fighting against, well, censorship, for lack of a better word, even if it's justified in "it's just about you being free from the state taking away your speech, not consequences from actions" is some edgy neonazi faggot, what's left for us?
The idea would be more to say "Nazis are people too, and they're just like you, even if they are against you".
Ideally, there'd be more discussion on why some people on Holla Forums are like that (romantization of WW2 and nazi aesthetics, obviously), and they wouldn't be the good guys at all.

Yeah, the idea would be to rile people up. But if communism got the treatment, why not nazism? Even if, instead of being critical, it's mostly critical towards their opponents.

Maybe there'd even happen something where superman's ideology is never revealed until a moment later, and then everyone hates and reacts with disgust, even if he keeps saving people.

The thing is that there's many directions one can take the concept.

When you put it that way, it does sound a lot more interesting than my first impression of "Superman beats up SJWs", which I have no gripes with, especially since I would enjoy seeing those rainbow-haired fags getting their shit pushed in.

However, that sounds a lot better and does show to have a lot more substance than I previously thought.

So I was writting my story. My female friend read it and think is fucking gay because the two male characters act like they want to fuck each other.

… I did wrong?

Women always think male characters want to fuck each other, user.

Exhibit A: every fandom ever

Not really, Females do that shit literally all the fucking time.

They don't care about the struggle to do something, any and all sacrifices to reach a point where they can succeed. They only care about OMG CHARACTERAXCHARACTERB

Nailed it on the head.

Take for example Marvel comics. A typical Marvel fan boy may love the stories. Female Marvel fans only give a shit about relationship and would not mind if the fuckin characters sit around and eat fruit rolls-up and do fucking nothing.

You see, there's this thing men have that women don't understand called camaraderie. Where men can get along, act friendly, and even touch one another without actually wanting to fuck each other because they're pals who get along really well and understand one another on many levels.

Since women mentally cannot understand something like this, they assume that all of this heartfelt interaction is about them wanting to stick their penises into one another's holes. This is why yaoi slash has a predominately female demographic, they misunderstand friendship on a base level.

So no, you probably didn't do anything wrong.

It's true. 2 male character so much as look in the general direction of each other, you can be damn sure the fandom trash will have smutty fanart on the net within the hour

Deuug. My character is a boxer, alright?
Lately, I haven't seen a character who use his fists as weapons. All I see is weapons like swords or guns, or kamehamehas, or spirits who do the punching for you.
So, my character is a boxer, but for another bonus, he has electric powers. However, while the electricity help him to make his fists stronger, it also helps to "paralize" his oponents.

The color of the lighting is yellow (offensive-stronger attacks) and Blue (defensive, paralisis to the opponents)

I'm kinda dissapointed that The Flash beat me to it, since they are using the concept of the two lighting colors, (different context, of course) but hey. What do you think, fellas?

(Sorry for my terrible english)

Punchy characters are still a thing, though it depends more on the piece of fiction in question. One means of combat tends to dominate a genre. Fantasy fiction is filled with swords, science fiction is filled with laser pistols, capes get fisticuffs due to their non lethality.

Sounds like a relatively neat idea for a character, I assume he just sort of charges up his fists so it's like getting punched with a taser?

Sounds like a cool idea, although the idea of people using their fists is a lot more common than you think.

Like mentioned, it depends on what genre you read.

Does he have these electric powers activated on a whim or does he need some sort of charge up for his powers?

I'm writing fantasy fiction that stars anthropomorphic animals

God help my soul.

Never uploded it any where, ongoing but so far I have written for generic horror, wakfu, lovecraft, Light of Terra, a few paragraphs for DC which I still need to get around to finishing.
also horror is incomplete but I kinda just lost interest and wanted to move on.

if you're genuinely interested I could post the .pdfs

Post it, nigger. :^)

Aigh't gimme a minute to scrub any trace of my name

Aigh't gimme a minute to scrub any trace of my name

Okay, build guide, ongoing and wakfu, Don't read chapter two till you've read Light of Terra since it happens after I take a return

Also I take a LOT of liberties with the rules since it's ultimately more condusive to my fun, after LoT i take a return every five jumps

the next two, neither are very long

4 is a bit longer but it's still completely unfinished, but I actually quite like what I have down, might come back to it. 5 is just hate wanking over twilight, which is pretty much the sole purpose of the jump

God dammit firetires, let me post

Wakfu chap 2 is ongoing, still activley writign it.

6 is dc and you wont miss anythign if you skip it, it's only like two pages, I jsut couldn't be asked to write anyhting
the last is LoT which is mostly complete.

Whenever I talk about my writing stuff, it feels like shameless self promotion, which is weird because otherwise how else would writings become known?

I finished my first book and have it self published already. I'm working on my second one because I had an urge to come up with some sort of #notyourshield novel. It's coming out way shorter than I hoped it would, as my first book was short (not even 200 "book" pages) and I'd have to double the length of this current book just to make it as long as the first one.

I'd get into more detail about it but I have a long history of bringing out the most sensitive people on this board and triggering them into a seizure just on accident, A Clockwork Orange style. I'll just say that it's a post apocalypse story that involves social justice types who are burying their heads in the sand about the blatant threats outside their shelters, and an Indian-American (i.e. dot head) girl who invades their safe spaces by her existence as former United States Army, and these tolerant people revile her for choosing the wrong kind of life that they see as not being congruent with her ethnicity. I've just finished the first draft but now comes the arduous process of revisions, which involves at least 5 full beginning-to-end rereads, which always involves massive alterations, added content, and then more rereads after that. But if it wasn't hard work than anyone would be doing it. The upside is that I've already written the entire book as a comic script, which means the initial writing was easier, all I had to do was basically turn the comic into prose.

I hate writing prose. I'd rather write comics. When you write prose, people have all sorts of false expectations of what "good" writing is supposed to be. The masses seem to mistake flowery purpose prose as "good." Best example is that cunt who writes Penny Arcade. Whenever he's supposedly showing off his "writing chops" he writes this fruity fantasy junk that's supposed to read like mystical poetry, but is clearly just mystical shit. My assumption could be wrong on this, but I always feel like people either expect that, or a truly natural talent for prose, people who really make their words flow in some way. I don't do that, I don't want to, but that makes my writing very dry I think. But then that's not me factoring in the idea that people really just want to read a good story and it doesn't matter how it's worded as long as it's not sloppy or wrong or fucked up. I've only started writing prose recently because I've learned to ignore the idea of expectations of what is "well written" or not.

If I am gonna start writing again, this is one of the concepts I wanna work on.
Concept 1: A group of 4 travelers travel through their kingdom and learn how a recent war as well as a new ruler (the first beast ruler) has impacted it. Each perspective would be told through a different medium.
Novel: Follows the perspective of a cynical young man (mid-20's) who ends up going on this trip as an errand for one of his acquaintances. He hates taking any position of authority, but ends up having to do so anyway on several occasions, with mixed results every time. He's actually the true heir to the throne who ran away, leaving his lover to usurp the throne from his father. The errand was a ruse by the acquaintance to dupe him into taking the kingdom back from his now suicidal lover.
Shonen Manga: Follows the perspective of another young man (mid-late teens). He grew up on a farm and hunts for a hobby, but is illiterate and shy from his sheltered upbringing. He wears a hood to hide the fact that he's a halfling and the monster his neighbors see in the woods. Falls in love with token-female-chan and with the help and advice of the other two guys, gains the confidence to get over his half-beast heritage and learn who his true parents are.
Shojo Manga: Follows the perspective of token-female-chan (early-mid teens). Daughter and apprentice of a town's alchemist, who lost his wife to an accident. Also sheltered, but her wanderlust and attraction for the cynic inspires her to sneak onto the cynic's caravan as a stowaway. Through her misadventures and regular berating from the cynic, she eventually learns that the world isn't all sunshine and rainbows.
Western-style comic: Told in the perspective of a hunter (late 20's- early 30's). He's a beast with no idea how he ended up in his town, but he managed to make good friends with the humans around him by sharing his kills with others and reading with the children. As he helps the Cynic and token-female out of the woods, memories shake up in his mind and he decides to come with them, and learns the conflicts between the two races. He's actually a former sex and labor slave who freaked out when his master gave him control over an entire village in his will. He gets to see that village later in the story.

From my experience, it's the ideas that people actually give a crap about, not the prose. The prose is just a bonus.

But the real question is, user: Is the protagonist hot-blooded?

In all seriousness, these do sound like cool, interesting ideas, aside from the filthy halfling born out of degeneracy. But that's just me.

The whole "lost king" story sounds like it has a lot of potential, even if it has been done a thousand times. But, then again, what story hasn't already been told?

Prose is a bitch for me also. I don't want to overdo it, but I also don't want to be minimal and dry.

It's hard to know what a safe medium is when there are so many example of "good prose" and they're all so fucking different from one another.

Generally speaking people have a lot of asinine opinions concerning what 'good' writing is. The common understanding amongst normies and pseudo intellectuals is that the more flowery, gay, and time wasting it is the better written it is. Most certainly not the case, but it is an opinion I see regurgitated among retard cliques now and again.

Doesn't necessarily mean that's what you have to do to garner success though, plenty of books have come out with simple prose and sold incredibly well. There's more to writing than stringing a bunch of bullshit together.

Personally I find extensive prose rather annoying. A little bit here and there is all well and good to help drive a point home, but after awhile it just starts to come across as the author wanking in my face.

That's true. So long as your whole story can't be summed up with links to TVtropes there's nothing wrong with using tried and true formulae to tell the story you want to tell. I'd always rather read a familiar but well told story, over something that's unique but sloppy, myself.

It's mostly something you've got to put together yourself. Keep writing and you'll find your own voice. Nobody can really define 'good' writing in an objective sense.

Ok, guys, here is my question, all right?

Ok… how do you…

Listen.

How do you write humor?
I'm seriously asking that. I'm not a funny person, and I want to know.

Yeah, I know, memes = Don't use them. I know, I fucking hate that Marvel is using them outside of Ms Marvel (and even then, I found it annoying there). Those things stop being funny in a year, and when we get back on it, we say "remember this? This was terrible!"

The heists of a criminal determined to "do it with style."

Involves a lot of explosives and music, sort of like the Suicide Squad trailer mixed with the Doof Warrior.

I've got this image in my head of the guy blowing open a bank vault to Queen's Top Hits.
I'm trying to go /loomis/ so I can draw the scenes in my head.

Ok, guys, here is my question, all right?

How do you write humor?
I'm seriously asking that. I'm not a funny person, and I want to know.

Yeah, I know, memes = Don't use them. I know, I fucking hate that Marvel is using them outside of Ms Marvel (and even then, I found it annoying there). Those things stop being funny in a year, and when we get back on it, we say "remember this? This was terrible!"

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Don't worry. What's good about prose is that there is not just one version of what is "good". You look at any of those books that are considered "Great American Novels" and you will notice that none of them have a similar writing style.

Some writers just write with a lot more fluff and end up writing huge paragraphs to describe landscapes and characters, while other authors are very straightforward and don't spend much time writing details, trimming any fat from their books.

I think what's important is that you have a solid story. The amount of details you put in after that would be an aesthetic choice after that.

Don't worry. What's good about prose is that there is not just one version of what is "good". You look at any of those books that are considered "Great American Novels" and you will notice that none of them have a similar writing style.

Some writers just write with a lot more fluff and end up writing huge paragraphs to describe landscapes and characters, while other authors are very straightforward and don't spend much time writing details, trimming any fat from their books.

I think what's important is that you have a solid story. The amount of details you put in after that would be an aesthetic choice after that.

Well it's about timing and the situation at hand. There's nothing worse than shoving in humor that isn't funny or that is trying too hard.

Humor is very subjective. Just write what you find funny and someone will find it funny as well.

Is your whole story based on comedy or is comedy just some subplot?

Humor comes in multiple flavors.

Mostly it comes to experiencing different varieties of humor yourself and finding what's funny to you personally, then developing on it with your own iterations. The thing is, you have to make sure your humor can appeal to multiple people and can subvert expectations of random people who come across it.

Character-based comedy, satire, and irony are usually universal enough. Think of situations you often spend a lot of time thinking about, make fun of people, make fun of yourself. Play with the medium itself.

Here's an example.

A: Hi, Bob.

B: Yes?

A: I'll like to have a word with you.

A: You're the association's treasurer, correct?

B: Correct.

A: Could you explain to me why you PUT $2000 OF OUR MONTHLY BUDGET TOWARDS ROGAINE?!

B: …Okay, look, you've got to understand. Balding is a serious concern for male members, especially when they're approaching my age.

A: …You're *twenty.*

B: Exactly. I mean, look at my scalp! White hair whe'ever the eye wanders.

A: Those are your highlights from your convention trip. Which you dedicated another three grand to under "business expenses."

B: Are you complaining about Beemo the Bean Bag Bear now? She's been a worthy investment! Aand family!

A: I never realized you sat on your grandmother's lap while browsing Pornhub. By the way, private browsing exists. Try not to do that stuff in the office, the janitor's been complaining.

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Another example from a TV series. much more concise and cuts straight to human nature:

A: Anybody have any ideas?

B: I have one.

A: Anybody besides B have any ideas?

It sucks to some people, uproarious to others, probably the former, but you get the idea of where humor can head. Ultimately though you need to seek out examples for yourself.

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I always heard this as a complaint with Stephen King's books. And if people can complain about his books then this fills me with comfort. It means that being a writer, let alone a "great writer" is always attainable. Not merely by everyone, as I think "well any idiot can write, right?" which can be true, but I started to realize that if any idiot can write, then why can't I? That and the fact that the Twilight books are popular. If that's the standard for novels today, I certainly can't do worse.

Maybe it's just me but when I think about stories I'd like to see, I realize there are many many MANY stories that have not been told. One of my biggest motivating factors is the idea that if I don't tell them, it seems no one else will. Sure, someone's written the story of the gritty post apocalypse wasteland wanderer, but have they done it where their hero is a cokehead that teeters between functional and trainwreck? And then what responsibilities can I hang on their shoulders. This is kinda what I feel writing is about. Come up with a character you like, and then give them problems to deal with, perhaps problems you feel are either unique to this setting or type of character, or problems that you think are interesting or relevant to modern day life.

This is something I think about as well. My "solution," I guess, is to just ignore the doubts and arguments, just make it dry if I want to. I think it's more important that the reader understand what's happening and why. Eventually I just have to stop worrying.

I also think a few good ways to exercise those worries away is to intentionally write really really tiny short stories just for the self that are as bloated and purple as possible, as a joke. See how many adjectives you can fit into a single sentence (about a big fat juicy purple veiny bloated tumescent turgid cock).

Think of something you dislike or hate, and mock it, in story form. It's practice, anyway.

Thanks for the feedback guys, been a while since I've actually had someone comment on it. I've had the project on hold for a little while now since I consider it my dream project to get done. I wanted to gain some experience in other smaller comics before I tackled Tom n Artie.

I started up a small gang story centered in a Neo-80s environment. Currently having a friend help me out with it, he's going to be finishing the promo page for it soon. I could elaborate some more on that one if you guys want.

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Explaining why the majority of fanfiction based on the Avengers, or Supernatural, or Avatar is about male characters fucking

My story is fairly serious, or, kinda serious at least. The hero is a pretty tough guy, but the antagonists are quite quirky.

My main character is basically an emo because of the situation he in, he is quiet and all, and the (first) villain is a cardboard villain without funny lines, just someone you hate.
However, my female friend (the one who thinks the hero and his ally are gay for each other) burst out laughing because the ally was acting rather funny compared with the other two.
Even having a dramatic pose!

I suppose is because of the comedy routine of Energetic guy and serious quiet guy, or how silly something can be created out of it (For example, I remember a Silver age crossover between Superman and Batman where the latter had his leg broken, and Robin had to tag along with Superman, and the thought of Batman being jealous of Superman because Robin is fighting crime with him comes as very funny to me, thanks to modern interpretations and gay subtext)

The last think I kinda laughed at were Dragon Ball Abridged (Namek saga, to be more exact), mostly for how different all the characters were and react. However, season 1 was… inmensely boring to me. Nappa hasn't aged up very well.

Also, Jojo is hilarious because of all the shit that goes through it. First you have situations out of freaking horror movies, and then you have comical situations between the characters.

Also, I love Take Thats and mock art, like all the Tom Preston fan art shots at Bendis and some visual memes like Pacha. However, if they become too mainstream, they lose the appeal because we lose what makes them funnier in the first place for generic laughs.

holy shit

Yeah, feel free to elaborate and share it. It seems interesting enough, especially since animals in the 80s will always remind me of Hotline Miami.

anything to keep one of the most interesting threads on Holla Forums alive

Well, from what you've described, it sounds like it could be interesting and has a lot of opportunity for comedy, but I don't have the actual story in front of me so I can't tell you if it's actually hilarious or not.

Remember, even if your friends thinks it's funny, I might not. It's not because I'm a pretentious dickhead, it's just that everyone has a preference for comedy.

Maybe we should just make a general OC thread since the draw threads and write threads are always abysmally empty. People seem like they'd rather wallow in shitty comics and sjw bullshit than actually create anything and having draw fags and write fags together could lead to some interesting correspondance

The thing is, Mary Sue as a concept basically doesn't exist. A character, even a perfect one, is only uninteresting and poorly written when the environment they are placed into does not bring conflict about their very nature.

Mary Sue is just a describing term to tell a writer that their flaw revolves around how they've written a specific character and the events around them primarily for self-appeal.

Writing a Mary Sue is a misnomer. Being a shit writer is more accurate.

Sounds like a good idea. I love shitting on faggots and liberals as much as the next guy it's a shame to see OC threads get sent to the abyss because some SJW said another retarded thing on twitter about comics.

Yeah Hotline Miami is one of the inspirations for it along with neo-synth music and the Warriors. The story is meant to follow a gang known as the Wreckers during their attempted rise to power, they're competing with several other gangs in the city for control of it. It follows a theme of 'how far are you willing to go to gain power' and supposed to be an action/drama story.

Yeah….last time we tried that on 8/co/ it didn't go that well.

I should know I'm still leading that project off site.

Since the big 2 nowadays are mostly shit, I've been wanting to write a series that's supposed to be a tribute/spiritual successor to comics as a whole. If I were to do it, it would have a huge timeline so as not to run into the same continuity problems the big 2 did, with the new generation of heroes replacing the old and being a tribute to the time they were around. So far I have the basic idea for my Justice League/Avengers allegory down, at least the original trinity.

Any stories with these characters as a team would take place from the 50s to the late 70s, at which point they'd either be retired or dead.

The 'Captain Superman' character would have used his powers to fight in world war 2 before the 'Justice League' was formed, solidifying his position as America's 'Superman' and becoming a nationwide sensation.

The detective wouldn't be involved in the war since I was planning on giving him a green arrow/phantom type origin where he's stranded on a remote island or in another country for years.

I'm not entirely sure what the wonder woman character would be doing around this time, one idea is for her to be a spoiled rich girl who gets stranded in a mystical hidden amazon nation with her scientist father, who would give her superpowers while the amazons trained her to fight. Eventually she'd become their champion, her father would die during her origin arc, and she'd return to the US a changed woman around the same time rumors started to pop up about the 'batman' character stalking the criminal underworld.

And this is just the beginning of the golden age, there's still the entire silver, bronze, and modern age to get through.

I would like help and ideas on this if possible.

Group projects hardly ever go well. It usually ends up with only one or two people actually ever doing anything and everyone else vanishes.

So this is an /erp/ general?

You're going to need to be specific with what you need help with. Characters? Plot?

Help us help you, user.

It's going well for us so far. The only thing was that any artist who joined us for free stopped showing up after like a week or month (without doing any artwork) so we just started paying artists and that's been going fine.

Really the only element of the Warriors I took from it were the multiple gangs and power hierarchy aspect of it. In the comic, the group will have to deal with multiple different gangs as the story goes on (at most I'm thinking possibly three different ones)

Both, really. Costumes, plot, characterization, etc. I need confirmation as to whether or not my ideas are good if i'm going to move forward with them.

Not necessarily working together, just inhabiting a thread together. Since the seperate threads are always empty if they're combined they might last longer and give people a better reason to make OC since they'll know there's someone who will see it.

I mean, you haven't given me much to work on. You gave me a brief summary about what you want to do, but you will have to go in-depth to get these ideas across.

I get what you're trying to do, but trust me when I say that there are a lot of "love letter"-type stories that are tapping into the past of comic books.

So you really need to get into detail here.

I'm gonna work on it some more, but for now I just have one question: is what i'm trying to do retarded?

No your idea is not retarded.

But with most cape ideas these days I say understand alot of what you do has already been done. But it will be your own spin on it. There will be 20 different heroes/villains who have the same powerset as a character you're making but remember they won't have the same backstory.

Also don't try to do cape comics for profit these days. Even indie ones. You're just not going to be that fortunate.

I wasn't thinking same powerset, for instance the superman wouldn't be nearly as OP, he'd just be an indestructible flier with maybe energy projection.

In the same way, the 'batman' wouldn't be nearly as insane as bruce is with his plot armor and absurd strength. As it stands, batman is basically superhuman.

True.

I'd say that if you try to do a tribute comic you better bring your own commentary or newfangled ideas to it as well, while still capturing the spirit of the comics you idolize. Everything needs some strong points to be distinct.

Lots of "League" and throwback stories have been done where characters are meant to evoke archetypes, like The Authority. The main differences that lead to success is they take the archetypes to different places than their inspirations and let the reader make of it what they will. The Authority pretty much gave us an idea of what a "pragmatic" superhero league could go. Worm is another take on the cape genre which manages to do a lot of interesting things. I suppose you're going for the opposite direction, something like All-Star Superman or Tom Strong where the best qualities of the comic come out. (although Strong is more of a spoof than anything else)

One suggestion, don't make the Wonder Woman expy blatantly like her. Even Moon Knight differentiated himself from Batman by way of his Egyptian origins.

Like, try something similar to amazons but not blatantly amazons.

What about a character whos power is literally just plot armor. He runs in, dies, time resets and he runs in again to avoid the danger and save the day.

His name is Gary Sue

instead of killing him off his story just ends with him in an inescapable loop where the only outcome is his death but since the universe won't let him die it just keeps resetting

No, what your doing is honorable.

If I had the power, I too would try to revitalize and give a new take on a dying medium such as comic books considering how autistic it is now.

I am taking a similar approach with the story I am writing that takes a premise from past content and improves on it where it was flawed before.

Trust me, this has been done for centuries, so what you're doing isn't bad. If you love comics and want to make a story that sends a shout out to the glory days of comics, then more power to you. Hell, I would love to see a comic book/story from someone who ENJOYS comics unlike the faggots in the big two nowadays.

You do have the power, just start writing, even if it's shit you can't help but improve

How's the hugbox?

I am writing, just not cape related stuff. My knowledge of superhero is limited to very general topics and random trivia, so I shouldn't be the one to handle writing a story that returns to the glorious times of comic books.

Maybe it's just me, but these two don't really seem to go hand in hand. Poison Ivy and Catwoman are femme fatales, but Diana is not at all.

Aside from that, why does it have to be Amazons? Not that there is anything wrong with it, but that's pretty obvious way to make a warrior woman archetype, and it is kind of tough to do in interesting way nowadays. If you can do it however, go for it.

There are many ways to make a super powered warrior woman, either through magic or "science." Just saying "someone gave her superpowers" is boring, lazy, and kind of stupid. Expand upon it. Why would that person give her superpowers? How would they do it? Why not give superpowers to themselves?
Say, why not make her gain super strength and regenerative powers from fountain of youth? Her backstory could be an archeologist/intern etc. embarked on an expedition led by a crazy and rich explorer who believes that he knows where fountain of youth is located at. Its location is somewhere in the Amazon Forest (get it?). Expedition finds the fountain, but something goes wrong, said Wonder Woman analogue is deadly injured and has to crawl into the fountain of youth to save herself. From there, she could be stranded in the jungle and learn to survive by herself until she is fund or to be found by a native tribe and taught how to fight and survive by them.

Your idea still needs a lot of fleshing out before you can use it. Just get yourself a notebook for brainstorming, and write things down, draw graphs, and doodle. It will help you to put everything together properly, preserve ideas, and stimulate you imagination.

Like I said, she's a combination of those two types of characters.

With having her get powers from her scientist father, I was trying to emulate Spider-Woman a bit.

What's wrong with "angry amazon bitch made of clay to exert the will of the gods"?

I don't want her to just be Wonder Woman.

Does this Amazon secretly enjoy being dominated by fucking white males?

Honestly?

Good looking characters m8

Thats only two of them. Its supposed to be a crew of six. I was talking with my artist about clothing choices and their main icon. I wanted them all to wear letterman jackets but he talked me into mixing up their clothing and just having colors show they're affiliated with eachother.

I'm kinda sad, now.

well you deserve to be.
Do it better.

What this user said

Learn from what he said and try to do better next time. What the hell was your comic about ?

He didn't give me any constructive criticism. He just said my dialogues were lame.

What can I get from that is "make it less lamer", and that is not a pretty good advice. How do I make it less lame?

How about you first tell us what the story is?

well, i don't feel like giving away the full details

but i'm currently writing 4 things that i hope to animate and make into a finished product then try to pitch it to a network (I live driving distance from a few)

first one is more of an action-adventure involving french history and culture revolving around musketeers

second one is a fantasy about animal people that i'll probably try and make more of a comedy to spite the adventure time faggots

third is something that I'd rather see as a mini series revolving around a village going through the seasons

fourth is only something that i recently came up with and want more time to flesh it out, but it probably involves some kind of alien world. i really only have how i plan on taking the bad guy out figured out

That's extremely vague. We won't be able to help you with such little information.

If he wasn't impressed by your script, of course he's not going to be eager to critique it. The most you can do is ask him to expand on that comment, but don't be surprised if he doesn't.

That said, nobody here can address any concerns about poor dialogue if you don't post at least a relevant excerpt. No pain, no gain.

Okay with alot of you that shit needs to stop. I can understand if its very key plot shit or something but sometimes this strikes me as just pure lazy or didn't think it through. If you didn't plan it all out then just admit it because this, 'Im scared of my ideas being stolen' is real old. Chances are everyone thinks their ideas are better or isn't worth stealing.

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Been participating in this thread for a while, and thought I may expand on characters I have been writing for the story I am working on.

Let me know your thoughts.

Main character is heterosexual, white male who works at a game store and actively calls out his female co-worker for using her tits as a means to boost her sales to attract horny betas towards her and buy games from her and acting like a "lolsurandum xD n3rd". He even calls out his manager for being a white knight and defending the co-worker for her behavior just because he wants to get inside her pants. He has grown extremely distrustful of those who he suspects force their political views into many mediums he enjoys (comics, videogames, etc.).

The other main character is a chocolate colored girl who doesn't feel it is necessary that she has to prove her self-worth as a woman and upstage men by showing off her "GRRRLL power", but rather just wants to try and be apart of a team and holding them together with a strong sense of cooperation. Makes no big deal of helping out her male/female teammates and has no issue with being helped out by her male/female teammates, knowing that she isn't a perfect being. A bit of a prune and uptight due to her father's military and insistence on being homeschooled since they constantly traveled, but has strong sense of leadership, camaraderie, and willingness to acknowledge her mistakes and improve own her flaws from her father's teachings.

The two main characters eventually end up together, and help each other improve and work off each other's strengths.

I created these characters to fit the tone of the story, which is an adventure with a very relaxed and comfy, comedic atmosphere. The characters don't act like soapboxes and don't preach, but rather just see bullshit for what it is.

Your thoughts, Holla Forums?

Any feedback would be appreciated.

I am currently writing chapter one, and would be more than happy to post the chapter once I have completed it and made any necessary edits and checked for any errors.

Not that user but realistically speaking you can only get so much accomplished just through begging online for free art, let alone an actual comic book that's around the length of 20 pages.

I don't know, but it kind of reeks of wish fulfillment and preaching, but ultimately it all comes down to how it is going to be presented and written. After all, Morpheus in Sandman ticks most of Mary Sue boxes, but he doesn't appear to be one and stories are well crafted.

Besides, I am not a person that goes for slice of life/drama, but prefers action, horror, and mystery.

I have seen it work, but it happened only if writer and artist knew each other in real life. Also, the more people are involved, the more likely the thing is to fall apart.

Well… you see, the comic is in spanish, and me and my friend are not exactly the best with english. I don't think I can fully explain.

Ok, just imagine a cheezy superhero comic from, I don't know, the sixties.
I'll admit there were some parts I'm not proud of: The hero saying he was not giving up. Quoting Antfish, "Shonen hero monologue bullshit"

Also, dramatic poses.
…
Huh, sempai really was right in something.

I am just giving you a very speedy summary of the characters. I am sure from just the brief description, they just seem like the typical "anti-SJW" characters, which in a way they are.

I thought I'd just mention the most triggering aspects of these characters first, but I don't want to take up multiple posts writing on and on about the characters, seeing as everyone has been concise with their posts, I thought I would keep it short and not just be spamming with my notes and ideas.

boo hoo princess

sorry i triggered you so hard

You bet your sweet supple ass you did user

when did freakazoid get a reboot?

Never but I pray to god it never does. With today's writers they would drive it into the ground. Sure Freakazoid was alot of pop culture humor but it didn't feel annoying with it, if it was done today just fucking imagine how horrific it would be.

I was thinking sexually she'd be like Gods and Monsters Wonder Woman.

I like the idea of foils and counterparts. That’s why I'm toying around with the idea of having recurring antagonists instead of using one-offs and tasks all the time.

For context, here's a pastebin: pastebin.com/nWRtCkgT

There's eight main characters and talking about them would take up ~four posts.

The first antagonist is Jayden Quinn. He's based on the "rabbits" of the r/K selection theory. The closest thing to a "skill" he has is editing Youtube videos and webpages, but what makes him dangerous is this social cunning that most of the main characters lack. He does the shit alot of SJWs do (scam, start shit and play the victim, etc), but unlike them, understands that there's other things that the Patriarchy really doesn't like and you can't afford to help it catch you. He's good at hiding his less-than-friendly traits, and thus can play the cast against each other easily. Also, he's a San-Fran hipster. He's the antagonist you're supposed to hate.

The second is an Arab Afghan kid, we'll call him Azzam (I don't have a name for him yet, but Azzam sounds pretty good). Despite being twelve, being from a war-torn shithole didn't make him an ISIS candidate; it made him so paranoid and cynical that he doesn't believe in Allah. He doesn't just hate Americans, or Westerners, Azzam fears and mistrusts everyone. He hides this, of course, with confidence and contempt, and is more than happy to use his craftiness and agility to keep people away from him. He only goes out of his way to antagonize people that are especially "strong." To him, power only corrupts and anything with it can't be trusted. He's the antagonist that you're supposed to like and root for as he gets redeemed.

The third is a prehistoric shaman, we'll call him Lobogo (no name for him either, I need to look up Xhosa and other names like that). You see, Lobogo used his shaman status to scam and extort the shit out of anyone he could. In his time, gods and spirits were just proven to be real, so he sought "real" power by seeking deals with them, only to come up with one; a living embodiment of space and gravity. It couldn't feel or sense anything besides emptiness, so it let him absorb it and use its powers. This ended up with their desires feeding into each other; the entity finally felt sensation and wanted more of it, while Lobogo felt its emptiness and would to do anything to make it stop. As he tried to "fill" himself by taking whatever he wanted, he used his powers to plunder the entire African continent. Even the American gods noticed the crazy weather and wormholes, so they banded together to open a portal and kick him out of their dimension, sending him on a journey just like the cast is going through.
Thousands of years later, and he’s still trying to take shit he can’t keep, only now he has very good control over his powers, plus an elastic body that’s so sensitive it can change species to fit the universe. However, his mind has degraded to the point where he thinks the cast is “following” him because they want to belong to him. They ‘’can’t’’ get left behind, so Lobogo wants to use what little knowledge he has left to take their souls. He's the antagonist that's supposed to be imposing.

The last is Eliane, the dead mother of one of the main characters. After years of seemingly pointless, thankless tasks, with no end in sight, she still can’t figure out why she was taken or what’s happening. Eliane had no one to guide her, so she’s so lost and confused that she can’t recognize her own son, let alone believe that’s her son. She ‘’has’’ learned alot, and even kept her athleticism and skills, but has fallen into despair. She's the antagonist you're supposed to feel sorry for.

>Would've kicked everyone's ass if it wasn't for his craziness and guardians gods.

Larfleeze?

So it's been a while since I posted about this idea and I've had time to flesh out my characters and what comic tropes they're supposed to be/play with. I've also changed some of the story since the last post.

Ryan Scott - The main main character now. Still the classic Straight White Male, since those traits alone are oh so triggering. I don't want to make him a nerd, but I don't want to make him popular either. He's just supposed to be a regular guy going through high school shit who gets a hold of an alien combat exoskeleton completely by chance. In that sense, he is Peter Parker. He does have his small group of friends who know his secret and they do their best to support him. In that sense, he is Jaime Reyes.

He doesn't have the tragic backstory like so many other capes. His parents are dead, but their deaths have nothing to do with the hero stuff. They died in a car crash when he was very little and he was raised by his grandparents.

Ryan is just a decent guy, with decent looks, and a decent set of morals, if a little old-fashioned. You know, if someone hits you, you hit back. Don't hit kids, don't hit girls. Be polite, be respectful. The kind of values a tumblrette would find triggering. He takes the responsibility of being the city's protector because he knows it's the right thing to do.

Since he's young, inexperienced, and sometimes hot-headed, I'd figure he'd get his ass handed to him more than a few times with some of his villains. Just so that when he'd finally take them down, it's that much sweeter.

James Ortega - Ryan's best friend. Back in my other post, I said he was the other main character. I played around with that until I felt it would be easier to tell the story if I just focused on one hero at first. I still have a plot point where James gets his own superpowers, but the circumstances are different than the first post and the abilities won't manifest until almost the very end of the planned story.

James is loyal, snarky, and quick-witted. He works with computers, spends his free time fixing shit for his friends and people who are willing to pay for his services. His parents are pushing for him to get a job, but he'd rather make money his own way than spend his time in front of a grill. He thinks he's above working in fast food.

I had the idea to make James a sort of "mission control'' for Ryan for most of the story, using a police radio and his Frankenstein'd computer to tell him where the action is.

His parents are a bit overprotective and eventually force him to get a job as a cashier at Burger Planet so that he gains a proper work ethic for when he's out on his own. They do it because they care… Until one of Ryan's supervillain fights destroys the Burger Planet. Then his parents feel much better about James staying up in his room with his computers.

Wednesday "Wendy" Wyatt - Dat Alliteration! At the start of the story, she appears to be one of the main trio a la Danny Phantom and Spectacular Spider-Man. But when Ryan gets his alien suit and James begins to help him fight crime, they sort of drift away from Wendy who does not appreciate being but out of the loop. If I do have her find out Ryan's secret, it won't be until the end.

Wendy is sweet, caring, and kind… most of the time, anyway. If you met her you would be hard pressed to believe her dad was a hard-ass police officer. She's the closest of the original trio to the "nerd" stereotype, and often claims that Ryan and James are the only boys in the school brave enough to hang out with her - because her dad's old fashioned, see? And he's got a gun and is a police officer!

I can't really decide between making her a red-head (to play with the Mary-Jane Watson Spider-Man trilogy characterization) or make her something else. I had the idea to make her a light-skinned mixed-race qt, but I'm still not sure which way to go.

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More character to come later. I gotta take a break for now.

He's based off of him, yeah.

Is it too obvious?

I like how Ryan's an everyman. It's pretty refreshing now.

I don't really see why James's parents want him to work at Burger Planet instead of, say, shit like Geek Squad. Is it because they don't want anyone to sue him for liability?

I'm leaning towards Wendy being a red-head, but if I was going to make her mixed race, I'd make her part Polynesian. Alot of Polynesians have thick, somewhat frizzy hair, and I think that'd fit her character type well.

I appreciate the feedback, really.

Yeah, I wanted to go the everyman route because I guess that helps with the escapism. Marvel does the whole weak guys becoming powerful with Steve Rogers and Peter Parker, DC does exceptional individuals getting even more powerful. Ryan is just a guy.

With James it really comes down to his parents wanting him to do what they believe is actual work. They're not big on phones or technology and are kind of backwards in that sense. And yet they're still overprotective of their mijito.

I know I want her to be either a red-head or mixed race with curly hair, but I just can't see Wendy as Polynesian. Or any kind of asian really.

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Now for more character profiles.

Jason Connors - The real third musketeer. Blonde-haired, blue-eyed, son-of-thor looking mother fucker. The Big Man on campus. Most popular boy in school. Star athlete. As red-blooded american as you get. In any other story, he'd be the bully, the antagonistic rival that the hero endures at school every day. Not here, though.

Jason is popular for a reason: He gets along with pretty much everyone. He's charismatic. He's handsome. He's just an all around good guy. The real bullies in the school are the outcast delinquents who stick to their own group and Jason does his best to sort of counter them with his own jock buddies.

He discovers Ryan is The Hornet early on, when Ryan get's beaten pretty badly and Jason finds him in a heap somewhere. From then on. Jason uses his influence on his peers to help cover for Ryan when he needs to go do hero stuff. After all, why would anyone think Jason Connors is lying?

I was thinking that at some point later in the story, Jason would get hurt and it would take him out of the rest of the sport season. Jason doesn't blame Ryan because Jason is a good guy, but there will be some anger there that he would have to deal with. I also thought it would make for a good reason for Ryan to go all out on the next fight because he's pissed his friend got hurt, and in the process discovers the suit is more powerful than he thought.

Elizabeth "Betti" Castillo - The School Goddess. The Knockout. The Girl That Puberty Loving Caressed Into Womanhood. Fire-spewing latina if you annoy her, the sweetest girl in the world if you're her friend. This is something Ryan and James find out when they help out her younger brother. (From the first post I told you about how Betti invited the two main dudes to a party as thanks. Well, I changed the circumstances of that. Streamlined it so that the party is already taking place out in the expensive walled-off communities. Ryan and James get lost on the way, witness alien prison ship crashing, investigate, Ryan gets alien suit.)

Betti is not the love interest here. Not Ryan's at least. She's Jason's ex and she spends most of the story cold towards him until he gets injured in the accident mentioned earlier. (Teen Drama Woo Woo!)

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These posts can't get too long, have to post more later.

Wait, there's a New Rockwell?

No problem, man.

I don't care much about escapism, but I can see how the relatability makes it easier. Like you said, characters have to be super exceptional in some way, even in TV shows. Everymen that aren't Homer Simpson-like schmucks are getting pretty hard to find, so finding one that isn't is nice.

Make her half black.

Everything about Jason is good. It's like if Superman was a real human bean.

Does Betti find out about James and The Hornet after the accident? If so, what's her role? Does she cover James like Jason covers Ryan?

There is in my story. With less nazis and more aliens. The outer-space kind.

Again, thanks for the feedback (assuming you are the same user from before).

I think most people don't understand that there is a clear difference between an "Everyman" and a blank slate character.

Ryan is not a blank slate. He has his own distinct personality with things he likes and dislikes. He has preferences. He has opinions. But at the start of the story he is just a regular guy. And then he gets a combat suit. And then he fights crime.

That kind of story really appeals to me because I'm rather fond of the Hero's Journey and the sense of normalcy before the protagonist passes the threshold, goes down the rabbit hole. It grounds the story for me, striking a cord really. Same for a lot of people. I think that's why stuff like Star Wars and Lord of the Rings is so popular. The heroes start off as average joe and then become LEGENDS.

Back to the characters now:

That's what was sort of steering towards if I decided against her being a red-head. But if Wendy is going to be black, the her hard-ass cop dad is going to be white. And, like Jason, he's going to be an Aryan, Thor-looking motherfucker.

Because that would be triggering.

Jason is supposed to flip the evil jock trope on its head, mostly because when I was in high school I was played in several sports. I spent a lot of time with my teammates and they were mostly really cool dudes. You would not believe how nerdy some of those guys were once they were off the field, talking about Zelda and DBZ and playing Magic and Yu-Gi-Oh during lunch.

The real bullies were, as I said before, the outcast delinquents who had problems with authority. The sagging-pants, the oversized t-shirts, the smell of tobacco or marijuana. Really rubs me the wrong way nowadays.

As for Betti, no she does not find out about Ryan being the Hornet. Not in the current draft of the story at least. Her role in the story isn't really that meaty. She provides the reason for Ryan and James to be in close proximity to the crashed alien ship, she is also essentially the doorway through which Ryan and James meet other characters including their love interests. She's also the reason why Jason comes to terms with the fact that he's not going to be playing any sports for a while, sort of helps him along. Other than that, She doesn't have much relevance to the story.

Time for more character profiles, lads!

Troy Harris - Sagging pants. Over-sized white t-shirt. Cornrows. HOL UP.

This little shit is the guy no one likes except for his equally shit friends. Incapable of acting decently to anyone. He's the school bully. Prominent in the beginning, less so as the story goes on. Delinquents who whoop and holler like monkeys sort of fade in comparison to alien pirate warlords who want to reign over the Earth.

Ryan and James get into a scuffle with Troy at the start when they intervene on him and his cronies picking on Betti's younger brother.

After that he simply becomes a nuisance. Even later, he loses any and all relevancy when he gets expelled from the school.

Evan Parker - A well-adjusted, well-groomed, articulate black youth. Fellow athlete and friend to Jason Connors, as well as member of various clubs. His wealthy parents encourage him to be active in as many extracurricular activities as he can. After all, all those volunteer hours sure do look good on a college application!

Perhaps wound a tad too tight, perhaps overworked a little too much, Evan still manages to be cool guy to hang with.

After a few near brushes with death thanks to superhero fights, Evan decides that life is too short to spend doing what his parents want him to do. Learns to enjoy his remaining high school years and to not have all of his free time eaten up by extracurriculars that he barely enjoys.

Becomes a total Hornet fanboy.

Karen Patel - One of Betti's girlfriends. Hot indian chick. Ryan's first love interest.

After the whole helping her little brother thing, Betti essentially brings Ryan and James into her circle of friends, the jocks and preppies. This is only solidified when Jason becomes their third musketeer.

When Ryan keeps ducking away to go be The Hornet, Karen notices. Except she's not looking at it through comic book lenses, she looking at it through teenage girl lenses. Why does that cute guy always leave? Why does he want to be by himself? Why is he so mysterious and interesting? She develops an interest in Ryan and wants to know more about him. She mistakes his superhero problems for brooding angst. Catnip for a doe-eyed teenage girl.

Karen spends part of the story prodding Ryan, flirting with him. Ryan isn't the brightest of bulbs when it comes to women and doesn't really know what to do with the attention. Eventually though, they start dating. Karen does end up being a damsel a few times and Hornet rescues her most of those times. When Ryan saves her as regular Ryan, she goes from teenage love to actual love.

Her and Ryan's relationship survives the story.

Wendy is very jealous of her.

Also, Karen finds out Ryan is The Hornet right before the climax, when he reveals his identity to her "just in case".

From one of the late episodes

Who would have guessed that you could have characters from different facets of life without shoving it down the readers' throats for liberal points.

Good work, user.

Thank you kindly, user.

I figured that diversity isn't a bad thing if they're actual characters and not shallow political mouthpieces created specifically to push an agenda. cough Whor cough

I also figured that if the story is going to be diverse, I wouldn't play favorites based on ethnicity. Skin color doesn't make much of a difference on whether a person's a jackass or not. So I've got a black bully character, and a black friend character. I've got a white hero and a white villain (one of them is, at least). I've got a female love interest and a female platonic friend.

I'm the last person who'll do the "all black people are angels, all white people are racist'' shtick.

Even as a Holla Forums user, I really don't mind seeing blacks, asians, women, or any other minority sharing the stage with white men.

What I absolutely despise is when they're purposely placed there to make a statement. "Look at this haters, a black woman just beat a white man!!!! Take that boys xDD GRRR". That's absolute cancer.

I've been doing a similar approach with my story. My main character is a straight, white guy who is a bit of a pervert.

I have two dark skinned characters, one being a hotheaded, loud mouthed, Britbong bloke and the other being a cool, collected woman.

I don't mind racial diversity either, but it it bothers me more when characters punish someone just because he thinks or acts differently. Besides the "pro-social" cartoons of the 80's and 90's, I remember watching a sitcom on Nick that was about shitting on the one guy that didn't like Fred.

In , I tried to make it so that (almost) every character have strengths and weaknesses, good ideas and bad ideas, moments where they're right and wrong. Sure, there are characters that are completely wrong, but that'll be for reasons more legitimate than "how dare you not like X!", "how dare you not go along with everyone else!", and "how dare you want to protect your shit!" Like said, "take that!" moments are cancerous.

Well, it depends in the context. A lot of humor is based off of the suffering of another. Think about, Squidward got fucked a lot by the universe just for not taking part in Spongebob's shenanigans, and he got punished for finding him annoying even if everyone else didn't.

But then again, not every story is a cartoon played for laughs, so it really depends on the situation of "not agreeing and getting punished for it."

Some of the worse moments in fiction I've read are when there is some sort of battle on philosophies and morals and clearly, the writer puts the protagonist immediately in the right by making the ebil antagonist have a severely flawed argument, pretty much strawmaning the whole thing, and suddenly the protagonist is the bastion of being right.

Bump

Okay, so how about this: the only female heroes are ones who either deal with stealth or have actual superpowers.

Maybe it's just my biases talking, but I can't take characters like Batgirl and Huntress as seriously like I do Batman or Green Arrow. Bruce and Olly look like they can break some limbs easily, Babs and Helena look like a good punch to the face will literally kill them.

Does someone know where I can read on quality storytelling techniques?

I want to compare slice-of-life storytelling vs. adventure storytelling.

Don't know anywhere where you can read it, but I've got some words for you.

Way I see it, adventure is all about escalation. Rising action to meet the climax. If we're going Freudian, the basic structure of an adventure story is akin to the male orgasm. It builds to an explosive conclusion.

Slice-of-life on the other hand, is more grounded. Sure, you could have slice-of-life in a fantasy or sci-fi setting, really get into how people live their lives, but it's ultimately a lot less bombastic than an adventure (obviously).

With adventure, plot comes first. Slice-of-life, characters come first. With adventure, it's raw emotion, getting that catharsis factor is a must. SoL, the emotions are feel-good. You evoke feeling of friendship and family.

That's about all I've got for you right now, user.

Has anyone ever managed to combine both styles without undermining the other?

How do I make a good mystery adventure show, Holla Forums?

Looks like writefriend threads only work on 8/co/.

The ones on 4/co/ go straight to 404 hell.

Spectacular Spider-Man merged Peter Parker's home life with his superhero life pretty well. They affected each other for better or worse, just like in the comics.

I think a big part of why it worked was that it tried to keep Peter's home-life and the villains Spider-Man faced separate, but working to compound his problems. Peter never met fucking Otto Octavious before he became Doctor Octopus and has no personal connection with the guy, but his rampage literally screws with Spider-Man's life in ways Doctor Octopus can't even imagine.

It avoids the cheapness of simply having the villain be someone the hero knows in order to create that personal life/ superhero life conflict, like Batman Beyond did. Instead they focused on giving Peter his own, unique problems that are often completely unconnected to the evil schemes he faces. Despite his issues being unrelated to his villains, they manage to complicate his superheroics by forcing Pete juggle two or more things at the same time.

Aren't the write threads on 4co cancerous as fuck? I see people post more in-depth stuff on their writing here while on 4co everyone just ideaguys around the place and you never see progress.

Sad to see this thread start sinking due to inactivity. Haven't heard any updates from any of the anons that posted before.

This is one of the most interesting threads on this board.

Yea, I've been pretty busy these last couple of days. I'm still working on the stuff I described in , but it's not coming along as quickly or nicely as I thought.

Shit, at least you're making some progress. It beats giving up entirely which is all too common with projects for most people.

Fanfic of Fire Emblem awakening vs Skaven from WHF. Using the Einherjar game mechanic I can also insert protags from other games and elaborate on them too.

Skaven open up portal to the bumfuck winter wastelands north of Ragna Ferox (Russia with brown people in FE:A). They arrive primitive but slowly start getting tougher and smarter as more of them go through the portal and try to escape Warhammer EndTimes (I started this a LONG time ago).

Skaven invade and conquer northern kingdom and start to invade Ylisse (Main Kingdom in Fire Emblem Awakening).

Up until now:

Episodic story. I shift between various characters. Mostly because the war is forcing the anime-ish characters to fall back from millenia-old cities and defenses. Also because most of the POV characters usually end up dead.

Knowing that this story is something I use to burn steam. I kinda like it but I wrote it on Apache so the spelling mistakes are out the whazzoo.

Thanks, man. Guess I can't get too frustrated about it.

A crossover? I don't play Fire Emblem or WHF, but anything about fighting off enemy hordes will always be a winner in my book.

That's the general gist of it. Also trying to put the FE characters in positions where the anime-shenanigans would not fly.

Eliwood wielding a giant-ass sword in combat against 10-20 guys? Makes sense for a Fire Emblem level.

Same scrawny kid using the same weapon to try and hold a wall while rat-snipers with guns are picking off the mages on the wall, right as the enemy has started to go up the ladders and begun flooding the wall? Of course he's going to get tired.

By the time the Skaven Hero Character appears he's tired and resorts to using a Rapier to position Queek so he can kamikaze both of them off the wall.

It doesn't work, but at least I managed to write his death in a way that he didn't die like a bitch.

Don't tell the reader shit, but keep things relatable. Give them some semblence of normalcy before you take it away.

Been playing Warhammer End Times for a while now, definitely a fun game and it fills the void of Left 4 Dead that could never be filled when it comes to fighting off hordes of creatures.

Never played FE though, I know the original games were apparently good strategy RPGs but the new games are just anime meme games with singing and sister love.

The 2 most recent ones (Awakening and Fates) suffer a lot because of what sells these days.

It just so happens a lot of 3DS owners are weebs who want to throw aside difficulty in favor of having waifus and "kids" (the mechanic made sense in Awakening but is fucking forced in the new game).

Awakening was bearable, if you see it as an END to the series and don't pay attention to the smily-weeb facade that it plays up-front. Most of the side-characters who aren't in as weeb-bait are good. (Gregor, the older mercenary, is a good-ish character if you read his supports. As is the Were-Rabbit Panne), This doesn't stop the game from being very flawed and having the focus be on characters who have no character arcs and stay generally the same as how they started.

The protagonist is a self-insert that you name, and gets hailed as a tactical genius for doing nothing. The other guy, Prince Chrom is fucking retarded too. As he gets the whole bullshit "friendship is magic and killing people is ok when "I" do it" arc as his only character development.

The game was supposed to be the end of the series, and fucking feels like it should have been. The game prior to it had been a pretty good remake of the first one and had great music.
youtube.com/watch?v=tUvYo7hrxAs

Awakening has great music too, but you can feel that most of it was meant to evocate older games and END the series. The sales prior to this game had been low, as people dont buy strategy games that much.

But adding waifus + orchestral music makes shit sell I guess.

(Bonus, if you ever feel up to it, read the lyrics for this song. It fits into the whole "the series is ending, please let it rest in peace guys".

youtube.com/watch?v=Bio99hoZVYI

But we got the two new ones anyways.

Birthright is fucking shit and the story is fucking laughable. The Europeans did nothing wrong and are only expanding because they need to in order to sustain their economy. Weeb hoshidans had 30 years to prepare for war but are still using wooden armor. No wonder that even if you join them they fucking lose the war.

But if you play Conquest and don't have any kids the game is at least somewhat bearable. The protag is a piece of shit self-insert again. But the music is great, and the side characters are marginally more interested. Most all of them actually want the "bad guys" to win the war, and have no qualms with killing the Jap faction.
youtube.com/watch?v=Jy_JSWKzshI

As long as you don't force in the fanservice song lady, and you DONT FUCKING TOUCH YOUR SISTERS HOLY SHIT DUDE, the game's pretty alright. It brought the difficulty back and weeaboos on tumblr and facebook can't even pass it on easy.

The older games are fucking cool though.

High Fantasy spiel my man. Fire Emblems 4-6 were the fucking golden age.

What made the older fire emblems good is that the perma-death mechanic and the difficulty sorta excused most characters being on the weaker side.

You were lucky if you saw your army interact with each other at all, and most of the time many of your soldiers died before even meeting each other.

Now you're expected to marry them off amongst themselves for no other reason than because you can.

I've been getting pretty fucked up in the past few days due to my job and applying back to school. I haven't been able to write anything for almost a month and a half. I'm the guy working on and

With the 'Wreckers' story (the one of the anthro characters). I'm still waiting for the artist working with me to finish the promo page but he's had some stuff come up with his job so that's been some slow progress. In the meantime I just keep jotting down ideas at work (I work retail, ironically they don't get mad if you start writing in a small notepad while on the clock) and the only time I really get to write is probably late at night.

It's been a pretty sucky past weeks.

How does one write Anthro characters without falling into the "give them X animal trait" hole?

How hard is it to say, write a rabbit who isn't excitable and hyper?

Or is that part of what makes writing proper Anthro characters difficult?

Why not write them competently weaving natural gifts into their daily routines rather than just being archetypes?

Most rodents and other small animals actually process information faster than other creatures by virtue of their faster metabolism. Essentially they view the world in slo mo, use that.

I write the ideas for their personalities first then let the species fall in. Sometimes its completely at random choice of what I'm feeling and what would be easier for an artist to draw repeatedly. Like the guy I'm working with seems to specialize in canines, cats and birds but doesn't shy away from trying new animals once or twice. Since the main gang is composed of different species (pharaoh hound, pigeon, jackalope, squirrel, gecko and possum) he took that as a challenge to try.

It's not that hard to give characters traits that aren't specific to their species. For example, the jackalope named Gabe, he's meant to be the tough guy of the group which commonly isn't placed on the rabbit character.

Or just writing humans but they're animals trope. You know how you're writing the characters but the fact they're animals isn't really a priority thing. Some stories would have anthro characters as center piece but in-story they rarely acknowledge things like their tails.

But it still works around the original trope.

But I dig what you're doing.

Giving the Rabbit the usual mole characteristics. Nervous, naive, smart-y.

How I planned to write Gabe was basing him off of guys I saw in my old ghetto neighborhood. People who act more off of emotion than thinking, it's like how if someone were to push you accidentally you'd maybe just think 'What the hell man? Ehh maybe he's got somewhere to be'.

While some people if they get pushed their first reaction is to fuck the person up because they felt disrespected. Gabe is meant to play up that role of how he's the main one itching for a fight and always seeking to punch his way out of most problems. For the progress of the story as they rise up in the criminal world, the fact he's so violence prone would become a problem. It works out when you're on the streets but when you start going against guys who know how to scheme and don't try to take you head-on then the rules change. He needs the other guys to keep him in balance, his violence is good to them at the start since it keeps people in the neighborhood afraid of them but what happens when they go up against a more crazy mother fucker.

Here's two questions for you Holla Forums.

What genres and styles should the 2020s focus on for their new generation?
Also is there a new original style which has never been exemplified before?

30-40s had the goofy stoner Mickey Mouse shorts.
80s had the cheap toy commercials
90s had the comic book inspired shows, average cartoon sitcoms, etc.
2000s had the action and genuine coolness which the 80s tried, but failed.
2010s was a step back to the 90s and even 40s with it's stoner meme humour.
What do the 2020s reserve for us?

Would you say life experience and personality have a lot to do with your storytelling skills? How you write your characters, the dialogue, how you set the mood and create the atmosphere for your viewer?

And after that do you think you need a huge amount of talent in order to create a great story and execute it in an original and memorable way?

Most people who posted probably got feedback they needed and went back to working on their ideas. I myself have been reading up on various mythologies and folklore, outlined few potential story arcs, and worked on drawing skills and on developing art style that would suit my story.

Of course they do. For example, if you are dumb, you will have hard time writing smart characters, and if you are too smart your dumb characters are not going to be believable either.

Use people I know or already existing characters as a jumping off point, and then alter them further and further until they become their own things.

No. Talent isn't worth shit without work. In terms of making story "memorable" you kid of have to get lucky. Most people would say that Harrry Potter and Hunger Games are memorable, while in reality they are pretty derivative and had been done better in past. Nothing is truly original, and things that seem to be, are just made up of old elements put together in a different way than usual.

I'd love to execute the video game cartoons idea in a good manner which stays true to the source material. The easiest way would be to do pure animation without dialogue and sitting around talking.

Thing is, I can watch stuff like Transformers G1 or G.I Joe without feeling completely insulted, not unlike the PPG reboot that relies on out-dated memes and tries to shove in progressive messages
I think people shit on 80's toy cartoons more than they really should nowadays

Eiher 2 routes:
The next generation wants to do something better than Noddle-arms and & grinning potatoes and tries to develop an actual sense of humor that doesn't relies on stoner jokes, outdated memes and such, throws away the current trend of political correctness. Eventually growing up to be more productive or at least less lazy than the current generation in terms of animation and production values, AND having some sense on how to write a story and not do fuck-all

OR

The next generation somehow becomes even worse than the 2010's in every aspect, lazier animation, lazier art-style, even worse writing, etc. Taking the wrong lessons from everything that came before them

Only time will tell if we get the next Last Airbender or a new Duckman, or we witness something worse than Adventure Time's comet scene…

This might be the most retarded question ever but… how do you guys practice your writing ?

You read, you write, you imitate and then innovate.

I write out all the dialogue first, separated by scene, and then fill in with setting descriptions and character thoughts and feelings depending on the POV.

Yes and no. No because, for me, it's more imagination and reasoning than experience. Yes because, before I got a job, alot of my "experience" came from daydreaming about characters and how they'd interact. It's part of my personality to not do total fantasies (what's a story without drama and conflict?) and have things make sense. I've also noticed that I've projected certain parts of my personality into characters, even if I didn't mean to.

Usually, I come up with scenes daydreaming and fill the gaps with parts that make sense. I'd think "would X really do this?" and "would a Y person really say that?" For mood and atmosphere, I'd use the location and characters themselves, previous scenes for context, and keywords (e.g. "fled" instead of "ran").

Should I learn to become a good artist, I'd definitely use different styles and color.

Like said, alot of what's called talent is actually years of hard work. If you look at good artists, most have been drawing and shit for years, even if their first pieces on DA look like any other 10-year-old's manga tracings. So no, you like you don't need talent to make great art, you don't need talent to create a great story.

As for whether to make it memorable, I honestly don't know. I think that the reason people like Harry Potter and the Hunger Games is because they have a spark; the right combination of marketing, drama, action and romance that get to people, even if there's 20 other books that do the same thing, but better. My best guess is "write what you like."

I've tried a couple of things, including…

Where and how should I go about hiring freelance animators and writers, Holla Forums?

A story about a society very similar to ours, but with themes of high fantasy are implemented - killing, pillaging, and questing are mundane things, there's all sorts of weird-ass races, stuff like that. I'm currently building the world up, I want this to be funny and have rather silly parts of its history because there will be lots of comedy such as Elves becoming Nomadic loners because their society's economy collapsed after thinking it would be a good idea to base their currency around leaves like the dumbass tree huggers they are but at the same time I want it to be something you can be engrossed in.

It's going to be mildly episodic, because the characters themselves will rarely interact. Instead we'll see how one character's actions influence how the other goes about their day even without knowing them. I want it to start out very comedic but eventually add in honest drama as they meet each other or have a bigger impact on the lives of each other.

Honestly I constantly feel like shit, but listening to people review their favorite things makes me want to write so that maybe, one day, my work can inspire someone to talk, to gush about their favorite stuff.

Embed related, actually helped inspire me.

I just write, having something to act as a scaffold to build around is nice, that's why I do jump chain.

Potato with a face.

This. Animation costs money, which these days is in short supply.

If execs think they can get away with only funding retarded flash cartoons, that's what they'll do. And they'll wonder why traditional animation doesn't draw in audiences any more, and then just figure that it's because it's passe, and no one likes it any more, and there's no point in drawing 2D cartoons.

Been some time since I last posted in this thread. I've been lurking, taking notes from you fine gentlegoys.

The format I have planned for my story is kinda odd, to be perfectly honest. I had the idea to have only a few chapters, say 13 or 14, but make them lengthy so that each could tell a small story with a beginning, middle, and end. They would all be connected, in a sort of episodic format much like issues in a comic book series or a superhero cartoon.

The Spectacular Spider-Man has been the biggest influence in how I modeled my story so far. Each season had 13 episodes, with small story arcs of 3 or 4 episodes but ultimately building up to a climax at the end of the season.

This was the only way I saw how to make having multiple villains work.

Speaking of which…

Now, that I've posted my cast of hero characters (or at least some of them) I believe it is time to show off my villains.

To start us off:

Arthur Chase - "The Warmonger"
This is the villain I mentioned before, the corporate titan who is supposed to be to The Hornet what Lex Luthor is to Superman, or what Norman Osborn is to Spider-Man. My idea was that after the alien ship crashed out in the forest, the government would come in to clean up and cover up, real big CIA stuff 4U. Chase would accept a government contract to have his science teams do science-y shit with the recovered wreckage and specimens. When Chase sees The Hornet flying around on the evening news, he mistakenly believes that an alien survived the crash and spends most of the story attempting to capture him as a live test subject (Chase is kinda amoral, see?).

Eventually Chase stops pursuing The Hornet when the government provides him with a fully intact stasis pod that was found embedded deep into the earth. Inside the stasis pod is the alien space pirate I mentioned earlier.

Which leads us to:

Marius Jekar - "Tyrant"
Alien space pirate/warlord who is sentenced to spend a long-ass time in stasis as punishment for his many, many crimes against sentient life. His band of brigands attacks his prison ship but fail to rescue him before the ship makes a random jump to Earth. Prison ship crashes and he's forgotten about until the final arc of the story where he wreaks havoc on New Rockwell and tries to send a message out to the stars that Earth is a primitive world ripe for the taking.
He names himself Tyrant because he thinks it's fitting and it sounds cool to him. Marius is a total edge-lord.

Jorr Velam - "Mantis"
Another guest of the crashed prison ship. Enormous insectoid alien that somewhat resembles a praying mantis. His stasis pod remained intact and kept him alive during the crash, much like Tyrant. Unlike Tyrant, Mantis' stasis pod malfunctioned soon after landfall and released him. Mantis is supposed to be a sort of starter villain for Ryan, being the big bad of the first arc.

My idea was that while Ryan gets used to his new combat suit, the Mantis stalks through the wilderness on the outskirts of New Rockwell, providing some spooky, mysterious events that get reported on the news in the background of the early chapters. The Hornet will first encounter the Mantis during a class field trip to a lumber mill on the outskirts of New Rockwell (how exciting, huh kids?)

While Mantis has no combat suit, Ryan is very inexperienced with his, so the fight is still tipped in favor of the dangerous alien criminal. Ryan gets his ass kicked for most of the fight but will manage to wound Mantis enough for the alien to flee. Thus, the Hornet is revealed to the city. Or at least to a class of frightened teenagers.

John Callahan - "Rawhide"
Arthur Chase's head of security. Former military and PMC. Enjoys having strength and having more power than others. When Chase makes a breakthrough in genome splicing thanks to recovered alien tech, Callahan offers to be a live test subject, desiring to have the traits of nature's most dangerous creatures. Think Ultimate Kraven but with more than one animal being spliced into his DNA.

Callahan comes out of the treatment spliced with elephant, rhino, lion, bear, wolf, crocodile, snake, and shark DNA. Callahan is really into that "apex predator" shit.

My idea was that the gene splicing would alter the chemical balance in his brain as a side effect, effectively driving him mad. He would think himself above the rest of humanity and turn on Chase after a failed mission to capture the Hornet. Then he would go on a rampage through the city as to draw the Hornet's attention for a rematch (which he wins. Kinda.)

Anyone have any interesting takes on old ideas like the clone episode, the personality switch episode, the new gary stu who's actually an evil spy, etc? Or new ideas would be good too.

I was thinking of a Power Rangers styled cartoon where the main mechanic is that they can all share attributes and personalities with each other and result in new characters with differing abilities.

I've got one for a personality switch episode.

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Here's all my resources I've gathered or watched over the years. I'd highly recommend the youtube vids- as while the guy is an amateur. He explains a lot of good stuff which I feel should be "the basics".

youtube.com/watch?v=jxX5cs0pX-E
youtube.com/watch?v=RnU5NLiGCAs
youtube.com/watch?v=_88RAJA1k-w
(Check out the guys horror gripe videos as well. Even if you're not into horror, it's very interesting analysis that can kind of be applied to other things).

The rest of these are websites and blog posts, but they are diamonds in shit. And if they are wrong, maybe as you break down why it's wrong you'll work out the right way to do whatever they are proposing. As with all advice, look into their work and take it with a metric ton of salt.
io9.com/7-deadly-sins-of-worldbuilding-998817537
terribleminds.com/ramble/2011/08/02/25-ways-to-fuck-with-your-characters/
everydaywriter.tumblr.com/post/69471092475/best-friends-forever-writing-close-friendships
techgnotic.deviantart.com/journal/Brian-Kesinger-Character-Driven-489740238
archive.today/7Dy2v (imgur.com/gallery/nIzsr)
referenceforwriters.tumblr.com/
thepenspointofview.tumblr.com/
writerswrite.co.za/the-top-10-tips-for-plotting-and-finishing-a-book
writewords.org.uk/word_count.asp (Neat tool to count how often you use a word.)

I would say avoid writing books. Publishers get a crazy amount of money from the sale, and you cannot live off books unless you churn them out like an autist, focus on a niche market that will always by, or strike it big with a mega-franchise. But the publisher will still make more than you.
Not sure what it's like in comics, screenplays, theater, or even webcomics with ad revenue (good luck), but I imagine it's also pretty bleak financially. Does that mean stop? Fuck no. Do you want to do something you like, or do you want to gamble and try to get rich? With the first you can find ways to be happy even if you don't have the top-tier gaming PC or mansion you always wanted. The second you're playing a rigged game where your only goal is to beat the house.

This kind of ties into something a Pixar guy said.

The films that best show it are the original Star Wars and Indiana Jones. Nearly everything they do backfires. The mansion is burning down- but they find a hidden passage- right slap bang into the middle of a room full of Nazis. Dinner with Lando turns out to be a double cross.

Spidey definitely suffers from out of the frying pan, into the oven, then the volcano, then the sun. And just as you think Spidey is going to break, he pushes through, MJ forgives him for something, or shit just goes his way. Until next week.

Some say you are inspired by the world around you and things you experience (as one of those vids I posted earlier did). But stories can also change as you write them. Assuming you aren't influenced by people telling you what you should do or your not aiming for something, you could start telling a Fantasy story about swords and dragons, then halfway through you've subtly included elements of political corruption or how a society becoming lackadaisical leads to its downfall. Whether those elements are done well is down to you.

The other big deal is that while you inject your own experiences, so will your reader (again, you'll find that in the video above). People will sympathize more with some characters because they are in a similar situation. Some will be intentional (i.e. XMen and examples of isolation) and unintentional (For sake of argument, Superman talking about living up to an ideal might resonate with someone who has a younger sibling who looks up to or idolizes them).

And two more pics with tips.

I do. Sometimes I don't realize that what I thought of is just "a" with "x" changed and "y" and "z" added. I also think I "overdid" the setting and characters and think that I try to cram in too many ideas into my setting. I basically drew map of whole county, designed building exteriors and interiors, gave characters full back stories and wardrobes, developed factions in high detail, but have trouble with creating story past first arc.

Thanks for the resources, man.

This is why I have a different job and write in my spare time. Sure, I don't have as much time or energy for writing, but I can get away with publishing online or even putting my works up for free.

And about your first pic, what do you think about a "film" or "documentary" style of writing, where the story plays out in third person with no interior monologues or explanations? I think that if I let the story speak for itself, it'd be more effective. There'd be little spoonfeeding, even if the reader would interpret it differently than I want him to.

Yeah I do the same thing user. I like writing but I didn't want it to become my career out of college due to how finicky it is to get work. Also all the bullshit that goes in with finding a publisher and getting your stuff printed.

From what I've read, "he/she verbed" isn't considered to be a good alternative to "said" in some circles. Particularly because of how easy it is to overuse instead of letting the dialogue speak for itself and adding the occasional beat to assist with visualization.

any writefags that want to work for free for a vidya gayem?
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2day bump

New thread when?

Autosage starts in about 13 posts.

I say when this thread finally 404's.

I'd like to shill for a project of mine, nothing that requires money or anyhting, but I put up a jumpchain thread on /tg/ but it's denizens are either completely absent or more worried about policing against nothing to take notice.

I'm tryign to drum up enough support for a splinter jumpchain drive to make it worthwhile so we can get some of our own going separate from the cancer of 4chan. Not to replace it just to work as a supplement to the existing one where shitty jumps can be replaced and peoples feefees aren't prized over jump quality.

Jumpchain ? What's that ?

Read this, I explain in greater detail. and it's not like you'd have much to sift through, that board is abysmally empty

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