I've had this idea for a while and I was wondering if anyone wanted to help or actually knows anything about programming and not just shitposting here
Basically this will be a fork of either Chromium or Iridium that will will attempt to audit the source and remove any botnet (eg - The Google account sign in feature) and for us to add on massively the the settings and options available for customization in order to actually compete with Firefox forks
The first thing is deciding either to fork Chromium or Iridium and then making a gitlab/bitbucket/gitgud or whatever to host it for all of us to edit.
Pic related. My very shitty mockup of a possible logo so you fags don't have to make one. Just try and make a real and improved version of said mockup.
It should also be a priority to try and still keep support for extentions and possible make them more secure and add some management options on them to prevent them from taking data they don't need
Benjamin Rivera
Holla Forumsnicians have never been dedicated to making things, even if some of us know how.
I don't know much about browsers, but I was hearing some things about how Chromium and other Chrome forks still call home, in other words the botnet is still there. I'm not sure if it's possible to remove that, or if it is, how difficult it will be.
Ayden Reyes
It's still shit.
Josiah Roberts
I really really like the logo. You should at least get it alpha state, so the logo wount be forgotten.
Hudson Lopez
This is much more ambitious than Iridium, and Iridium actually gets funding.
Jackson Hughes
Why would you fork chromium and not firefox. Chromium is an incredible memory hog.
Landon King
again?
Nicholas Price
i think it'd be more fun to make a browser that uses its own stack instead of the Lovecraftian monstrosity from the w3 that is html/js over http
David Collins
Show us some code first, OP. Most of Holla Forums can't code, and the rest of Holla Forums won't have any interest in coding for someone who can't code.
Benjamin Barnes
If you add an option to change the position of Tabs, (Top or Bottom), then I'll seriously consider helping you.
Chase Martin
because gecko is fucking garbage.
Josiah Mitchell
what's better?
Isaac Howard
Holla Forums can't code
Jaxon Lopez
it will never be as good as Google Chrome. it must suck to be so paranoid that you must settle for inferior software with poor performance and fewer features.
Great. I can't wait for the first RBMK-1000 addon coming with it.
Tyler Bennett
+1 for the logo. As for the idea, it can't be that simple or someone as just ripping something out or else someone would have already done it? Why parts are even phoning home to begin with? Maybe it can be possible to "ground" the connections to Google, i.e. find the critical functions and tuck them away by making them always return some default value.
// In Chromeint spy_on_user(struct user_data) { /* Some evil Google code */ return success_code; /* 0 on success, error code otherwise */}// In Uranium, groundedint spy_on_user(struct user_data) { return 0; /* Always default to success */}
This would also make it easy to keep up with Google's commits. But again, it can't be this easy. I don't know shit about making browsers, so that's the best I can come up with.
Cameron Bell
OK, I just tried to see how to download the source of Chromium. dev.chromium.org/developers/how-tos/get-the-code That's it, fuck the internet, fuck browsers, fuck everything, this mess is beyond saving. At this point I have a feeling it would be easier to invent a new internet than fix this mess. What kind of Lovecraftian abomination needs over seven gigabyte of source code to display websites?
Logan Morgan
If we must, why not Dillo?
To answer you question, you probably won't like this answer, but Gecko.
Kevin Cooper
ITT paedos scared google will rat them out to the FBI
Matthew Nelson
for what purpose do we need another piece of webkit cancer when we have zirconium?
also impolite downboat because browser threads need to be banned or contained in a general. fucking shit mods.
Grayson Baker
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Brody Campbell
If it was that easy someone would have already done it by now.
I'd expect it waits for its unique hash sent back by the google servers it sends data to as an indication that everything is ok.
Parker Peterson
Why not just contribute to Fiber, Servo or Icecat instead?
Brody Kelly
I hope this doesn't crash and burn like the last Holla Forums browser attempt.
Liam Sullivan
I don't don anything illegal, what I wish is to hide my information from being used by advertisers. It's about privacy.
Parker Reyes
This project has already been tried. Look no further than the dead board:
Nicholas White
I tried Chromium, but I could not find anything like Self-Destruction Cookies.
Ayden Scott
>>>/zirconium/
Levi Harris
I wouldn't recommend Chromium, but uMatrix works well as a replacement for Self-destructing cookies. Does a lot of other things, too.
Ethan Anderson
nice
Eli Sanchez
I D E A G U Y D E A G U Y
Brody Sanders
We don't need another fucking Chromium fork
If you want to use Chrome, use ungoogled-chromium or Inox.
If you want to be fags, contribute to the (dead) Zirconium fork
I mean, fucking really? A thread like this gets made every few months or so. Fuck you, OP.
John Hughes
It's still miles better than Australis.
Joseph Carter
I like your idea, OP. Here's something I drafted up in GIMP in about 5 minutes.
Hudson Butler
OK, you managed to rustle my jimmies.
Jordan Long
inox already exists
Mason White
I know its quite the large task, but thats why I was hoping to get the help and knowledge of people who would actually be interested in such a thing
Iridium still "calls home" to the devs but they claim this is just for the current state of it for bug fixing. Considering a company actually makes it is why I don't trust it. Companies usually only make open source projects when it benefits them and a company has no use for browser for tinfoil hatters
I can program. I mainly made this thread to show the idea just to see the general response
This was one of the options I was hoping could be added. Definitely will be on the list of features if this ever get this off the ground
This seems like a good place to start. The only problem is that it removes a lot of things that I think should be optional to toggle (Like pop-ups in tabs)
I can program but telling people who can't asking to contribute would be a waste of time
Looks better than my mockup but I stayed away from the actual colors of the radioactive symbol for a reason
That's not a complete fork and is only patches. Also another goal of this is to add more features/options and not just removing botnet
Noah Smith
I hope something turns out of this fork, I might actually use it myself when it is stable enough.
Oliver Wright
Do you even know what Gecko is? Of course you don't, we're on Holla Forums
Elijah Wright
What software license does Chromium and iridium use?
Nathaniel Richardson
Chromium is released under the BSD license. Same with Iridium iirc.
Daniel Russell
At first that sounds bad since BSD is a cuck license but that would mean that people like Google could take any code from it and put it into Chrome. However do you think that would mean Google might actually contribute to the source code of the project?
Jaxson Gonzalez
Servo :^)
Levi Butler
I did hear about Firefox copying some feature from Chrome. Think a plus is still each tab being it's own process instead of one giant process.
Though since I've changed from Firefox to Iridium, the performance difference makes it unappealing to go back.
Such as? I've had some dissatisfaction with browsers too, but do you have a software specifications document, or some kind?
I imagine a project like this will be a rather significant undertaking.
gitgud.io/u/_ I can program too, but you do have some sort of managerial or leadership skills to direct a team of programmers right?
Juan Cox
Holla Forums - Logos
Xavier Miller
Honest question: Why not just write a new browser from scratch?
Joseph Sullivan
Because trying to fork and heavily edit a browser is already a massive task. Writing a /decent/ one from scratch is even harder
Asher Rodriguez
I have leadership skills but I don't trust those skills will transfer well to project management. I am willing to let someone with actual project management skills to be over this. Gitgud is what we should use and since you already have one with experience do you want to be over it? Or do you also not have leadership skills? If you trust yourself and are willing to do it create the repo for it. Iridium is what I think we should fork
Samuel Powell
Its harder Takes more effort Community effort trying to do that would be cancerous Google is a solid browser, it just has muh botnet Plus itd be cool to see a new chrome fork
Lucas Kelly
Why are google shills trying to suppress this by shitposting?
Robert Foster
Over one hundred other projects forked and integrated. It's FLOSS, what could be better :^)
Michael Howard
High-res image, enjoy.
Jaxon Rogers
another one, to go for you're color scheme.
Nathaniel Cruz
How about yellow/green like a normal uranium symbol?
Michael Hughes
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Bentley Edwards
Come back when you have proof that you can search and destroy all botnet code and a roadmap for added features. Maybe people will help if you prove that this isn't just another Holla Forums vaporware project.
Correct me if I'm wrong, because I'm honestly curious, but wouldn't you lose all the speed gains from Dillo if you "modernized" it to render everything that a Gecko/Webkit browser could?
Connor Roberts
Add a menubar and I'm in, I hate that "minimalist all in one menu" nigger-feminist double digit IQ bullshit
Elijah Carter
Ungoogled-chromium + Inox literally already do this.
Stop.
Josiah Taylor
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Henry Nelson
Removing negative features is adding features.
Sebastian Collins
Removing negative features is good but I mean adding actual features like customizable tab layout
Jonathan Sanders
Here's how i would do this. We already have a base package here.
github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium | We would need to setup some kind of buildbot that downloads the chromium source, builds it, and then makes it available through a repo. From there we can add our own patches that remove "botnet" aka spyware.
How does this sound?
Gavin Turner
add a menubar
Robert Turner
Alright, We should setup a channel or a github account for feature requests. Menu bar does sound like a good feature for Uranium.
Brody Nelson
this
Carson Murphy
I made a board for it >>>/ub/
Noah Carter
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Jordan Carter
Checked
Luke Bennett
this will never end
Luke Fisher
Reading comprehension is not your strong suit
Dominic Ramirez
inferior software is the one that serves the botnet
Caleb Evans
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Nathan Murphy
base it off Servo.
Webkit, Blink, Gecko and the Microsoft crap are deprecated
Landon James
Chromium is based off of Googles own version of webkit Also
Blake Butler
This or /thread
Matthew Perry
I made a refined logo
Josiah James
isn't iridium specifically made to remove google's botnet?
Why do it again?
Grayson Martinez
Iridium still reports back to its devs. You can turn this off but it would be better to not have that at all. Also again, added features.
Mason Diaz
Better version from logo thread
Brayden Morgan
Don't you renember what happened to Zohrium. *spelling*
Hudson Collins
GREAT, but... Maybe just compil Inox for windows if its possible
Landon Green
Can't we focus on QtWebEngine? The renderer is the most important part. I don't need tabs or anything else.
Ethan Peterson
Holla Forums should be renamed /logo/, this shit is rich
Nolan Ortiz
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Dominic Wilson
needs more arrows
Oliver Edwards
will there be an option to change the background color from white to any fucking thing else
will there be an option for not shit tree style tabs?
Luis Howard
Anything feasible to add as a setting will attempt to be added. Request any other features here >>>/ub/1
Henry Ross
wait can't we just take firefox and remove shit like pocket and notifications?
Fuck there are other ones but I lost the reference to them, but there's a lot of resources on management theory, just get your shit together for fucks sake
Aiden Wood
Theres already tons of forks of Firefox that remove the botnet. The main purpose of this is for people who simply like Chromium over Firefox forks and/or have Chromium extensions they need
Jeremiah Wood
but are there forks for linux that remove the botnet?
Tyler Martin
Of firefox? There are plenty. GNU Icecat being the most popular
Lincoln Watson
danke user, will give it a try
Jonathan Howard
You can disable Pocket completely in the settings, and I don't know what's wrong with "notifications". Icecat's greatest advantage is privacy-friendly default settings. Not disabling malicious features, but applying all those about:config tweaks people list.
Regular Firefox is pretty easy to de-botnet, because it doesn't have much of it in the first place.
Watch out with Icecat. It doesn't get timely security updates. If you install it, install it through Guix, which does merge security updates as soon as possible. Mainline Icecat is dangerous.
Luke Adams
you can dream
Nicholas Bell
What range did you use on that?
BAR
Julian Bailey
Let's use this and stop talking logo. We need to start talking software, what engine are we going to use? Who's setting up the repo? Do we have anyone with experience? Should we actually base it on Chromium? What language should we use? Do we have enough people who know that language? This is all information that we need to know right now.
Espionage
Anthony Nguyen
Should we base it on Firefox instead? Like said, it's less likely to have botnet if there's no Google involved in the upstream. Besides, Chrome uses too much RAM.
Brayden Wilson
What Javascript engine should we use? Should we write our own from scratch?
picric acid
Julian Watson
Best Logo
Carter Flores
No. We fork palemoon.
Charles Cook
webkit isn't developed by google and gecko sucks. afaik the chromium project isn't part of google
David Turner
They call it Uranium because prolonged exposure to it will give you cancer.
Lincoln Mitchell
what if I have a NBC suit on
Ryder Hughes
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Samuel Lopez
I like it.
John Richardson
Hotwheels fix your shit
I vote we use this one; it's very nice.
Jose Martin
I vote this for full and
For minimal version
Jayden White
Ok good, can we actually start writing this thing now? Or is this going to end like most other Holla Forums projects because no one wants to take the burden of coding it?
Noah Hill
isnt this what brave does already? its totally stripped down and customized and fast, and you can choose to just block everything altogether instead of getting paid to view ads.
Jonathan Wood
But the biggest reason why a Chromium based browser is wanted is for the extension support.
Robert Morris
theyre adding it next month i think
Christian Hughes
From what I get from this thread
Ryder Phillips
Double posting, but what exactly do I mean by "no specifications". Before I work on any sort of project that involves multiple programmers and people working on it, I write a lot of documents and distribute it to them so they know exactly what I'm getting at.
So the programmers know what they should implement using whatever data structures or algorithms. (Instead of some clusterfuck where everyone implements what they think is best, or some random extra before some more important things are done.)
To yourself, your own idea is concise, complete, etc. But to everyone else, no, especially all there is to it is a few paragraphs.
Jose Evans
Again. Its not very old. The foundation for the whole thing is still underway and I'm not about to start without it
Brody Reed
I'm not telling you it's dead, I'm telling you why supposedly no one's starting to code for it yet.
Do you even have a spec written?
Easton Howard
Definitely possible. Just follow the standard Chromium compilation for Windows after you apply the patches.
Nicholas Ward
Just remake firefox 1.5 in Servo.
Jacob Miller
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Ethan Bell
Please explain so I can finally migrate to Seamonkey.
Michael Fisher
OP you'd better be prepared to do about all of the coding yourself for the first few weeks. Most of us don't know how to program, and those of us who do clearly don't see this as a serious project. You said on /ub/ that you're willing to work on this project along if nobody will help, and that's just what you're going to have to do in order to show programmers that this is something worth helping. Just bring us Iridium with the spying components removed and I think you'll see a Holla Forums with a lot more faith in this project.
David Nelson
You want to do some good, help port qutebrowser to QtWebEngine.
John Morales
The shadow is too strong and dark
Jason Cook
I decided to attack the logo. Removed the weird angles, made the numbers more regular.
The inner centre is 4/12 of the size, the outer centre is 5/12 of the size, the gradient starts at 1/12th of the size from the top left, and of course the circle segments are each 2/12ths apart and 2/12ths wide.
I did most of it in Inkscape then tweaked the numbers by hand in a text editor. Inkscape doesn't let you precisely edit the positions of gradients and the like.
Fuck damnit OP stop fucking around with logos and get some fucking code in there already you nigger.
James Kelly
That's the Holla Forums way
Ian Russell
every fucking time. it's probably the same person. every fucking time they suggest that Holla Forums creates a new browser based on chrome that "removes the botnet" and every fucking time they just make a logo, and they dont do anything about it.
Wyatt Wood
I don't know, The dev seems to be determined. He made a repo and is currently working on importing iridium as a base.
Let's hope he adds new features and not just INOX patches.
Its empty because gitgud couldn't fork iridium from its options menu when I created the repo so I'm having to manually push it to the repo. I'm currently dealing with a failing PSU so I may have to continue on my laptop
Thomas Foster
but they made a board the last time too. 😂
Julian Gray
new browser: Kramium
Hunter Jenkins
Kekkle
Jacob Phillips
NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER!
Oliver Thompson
At least zirconium had an actual repo.....
Carson Anderson
At least zirconium had an actual repo.....
FUCKING KIKEWHEELS FIX YOUR SHIT!
Connor Fisher
Is this the Duke Nukem browser of choice?
Noah Nguyen
Duke Nukem only browses the corpses of his enemies for loot.
Alexander Smith
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David Peterson
did you read the thread
Joshua Ortiz
what? no. it took months to debotnet the default firefox about:config to make it stop leaking data like a bucket without a bottom
Jayden Edwards
How about we contribute to qutebrowser instead?
Xavier Stewart
Qutebrowser uses webkit, which is flawed beyond redemption and finds any excuse to crash
Zachary Wright
It got the funding to switch from webkit to something better, though. (I forgot the name) So we can just wait until it switches in about a month and work on that.
Ayden Cooper
so, it's just a renamed dwb? just use fucking uzbl.
too bad there's nothing better.
Daniel Gray
When I tried qutebrowser a year ago it crashed constantly, probably because of a bad Qt version. I've been trying it again for the past few days and it hasn't crashed at all.
It's not renamed dwb, it's rewritten dwb. It uses Qt instead of GTK, it's cross-platform, and it's maintained.