Thundercats Party! You're invited!

The Thundercats are great but I mostly just watch them for Wilykit.
Do I still count as a fan?

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We're going to need two hundred Wilykit pictures before we can decide.

No, but you do count for a federal watchlist.

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No, just like how I don't count as a ben 10 fan for watching 40 episodes of first season for Gwen

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How do we fix the Thundercats reboot Holla Forums?

Is Thundercats /furry/ or /monster?

it's fluffy wuffy kittys

The creators made it for the plot as well.

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G.I. Joe, Transformers, and He-man all have ongoing comics right now. I'm surprised no one is making a Thundercats comic.

I forgot that the reboot even existed, didn't they give it a terrible timeslot or something? like early mornings on Saturday or Sunday? Isn't that what killed SBT Too?

No, they gave it a great timeslot of Saturday evenings.

Thundercats reboot died by being absolutely terrible.

Dont you remember user the edgy 2010 Thundercats comic?

I don't. Why was it edgy?

Kits become Skelators sex slaves
Cheetara and Tigra get raped bu the mutants and forced to work in the mines
Liono was in the book the entire time guiz

That's the fucking truth.

With friends like these

Who needs enemies

This warms my heart as much as Nukoduke do. I would watch a whole show about little kitten children.


Damn… Remember when heroes were heroes?

And friends were friends?

But these are the greatest friends of all time.

See how well they treat Lion-O. They're the best of friends.

Yo what the fuck?

That's why cats are all backstabbing cunts.

I hope you all get a diarrea, you cunts.

Yo what the FUCK?

what a likable bunch of characters.

Reminder that Wily Kit was Mumm-Ra's slutty cumdumpster.

What kind of egipcian is he?

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Was the animu look of this show the only good thing?

Yes, the designs of Thundercats2011 are the only good thing.
But they're a very, very good thing…

I'd bet the farm that's the same animation studio that did A:TLA.

HOTWHEEEEEEEELSSSSS!!!!

2011 was by 4°C (Mind Game, Super Robot Monkey Team Hyperforce Go!, Halo Legends) and WB inhouse
Last Airbender was done by several Korean studios.

You owe me that farm.

i never got around to watching the reboot why was it so terrible?

Because it wasn't softcore porn.

Because the creators shat all over Lion-O and constantly sucked Tygra's dick.

They also removed any sense of likeability and heroism from the characters and put in a bunch of original character donuts steels in.

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>Pumyra is a zombie who cucks Lion-O to get Mumm-Ra's dick and supposedly was planned to turn into a giant worm monster that Tygra would've killed
At least for the reboot, Wilykit really was the best girl.

Yes, because it would be cable-friendly and we need more skinemax-style animated prooductions. But they wouldn't let you get away with the harder stuff.
And if they're licensed, that's like canon R34. It can be done and I bet my balls it would be profitable. If I had the rights of the Thundercats that's exactly what I'd use them for.
Full frontal and asses, sideview of penetration, closeups of blowjobs, plus gory adventuring in a Conan-style erotic world of impractical armor and decapitation. After the original run, DluRays and DVDs of the show with extra material, which means more sex and some closeups.
That's the reboot for me. That's the reboot we should be kickstarting.
Wilykit and other thunderkittens wouldn't have sex, of course. Maybe I'd ask the writers to come up with an excuse to show them naked, but no kitty sex.

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/xeno/

They're aliens.

I wish based Volpe could have worked on Thundercats.

I wish I could have worked on Thundercats.

oh please, if anyone here worked on thundercats then it would be either too edgy or too sexy for cartoon network

The comic was shit. Gritty for the sake of being gritty is never a good idea.

Damnit Hotwheels, let me fucking post.

I see the word edgy pointlessly thrown around from capeshit to Wildshit, but this is genuinely absurd & mean.

I don't get what the point of this is beyond slave outfit & degradation fetish.

the man-bat-thing is thousands of years old and undead, viagra ain't gonna do shit

the only way he can even hope to get stiff is with the kinky stuff

Well, to animated his member he'd need necromantic charms- I think even from in-character perspective this is all for spectacle & humiliation.

Poor boy cat though, such a wasted opportunity. Now that could have been kinky.

Was it hardcore porn instead?

The potential was there. It even managed to cross over both Silverhawks AND Tigersharks. But the writing was so goddamn bad; the fucking need to screw over Lion-O and turn him into a cuck….seriously, were they just trying to run the show into the ground? I hope the writers of the show have their families murdered right before their eyes ala Dr. William Petit.

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God I hated the 2011 reboot, the show just kept shitting on Lion O and he never got his chance to shine even though he's fucking Lion O!

Exactly! Thank you! That's what I've been saying.
A lot of shows fail for several reasons, this one didn't. This one failed because the writers were incompetent and that's it.

The head writer just had a weird boner for Tygra, which led to Tygra being the best at everything while Lion-O got shat on despite being the main character.
He even argued with people on Deviantart about it and acted like a faggot when people criticized the show, and when the show failed, blamed its failure on the fans rather than on his poor writing.

That sounds like a delicious lolcow.

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Please tell me this has been documented. We need to talk to this person.

You couldn't produce hardcore porn. Not for cable.
We have to settle for softcore.

they're probably /chaos/, because /monster/ doesnt allow monster boys/men

There was an image someone made of his stupider comments, but I didn't download it when I should've. And there's an article floating around somewhere that had him complaining that the show didn't get renewed, but I didn't bookmark that either. You could probably find it easily if you looked for it, though.

What's the dude's name?

It'd be either Todd Casey or Tab Murphy. Those two wrote half of the episodes combined.

Casey wrote Ramlak Rising, Legacy, Sight Beyond Sight, Trials of Lion-O: Part 1, Curse of Ratilla, The Forever Bag, and Recipe for Disaster.

Murphy wrote Omens: Part 2, Old Friends, Journey to the Tower of Omens, The Duelist and The Drifter, Berbils, and Native Son.

Considering Native Son is about Tygra's origin, I'd say it's likely Murphy.

I'll go after this man.
Do you need gone or just in pain?

While I can appreciate the slavegirl outfit and the grown up Wily-Kit… What the fuck, man?

That's so out of place for the series and completely out of character for Mumm-Ra.

The dude is a living corpse powered by pure evil, for fuck's sake. The idea of him wanting a sexy plaything to torment is just.. Fucking stupid.

They also didn't include Cheetara's telekinesis so she could be chained up and raped by mutants. Again SHIT COMIC!

If you can find some images of his dumb comments or the article that talks about his plans for the cancelled second season, that'd be nice.
You don't have to actually mess with him, but I won't stop you.

I get your meaning, wink.
I will find him and make him answer for transgressions, yes? In video form he will issue apologies and then he will pay. Punishment will fit crime.
I guarantee this, I will make him say he is very sorry, as he should be, for writing terrible Thundercats episodes and ruining beloved franchise. After he has said the apologies he will be punished and after that he will no longer say things.
After that you will pay me in person when I find you. Ha ha, that was American-style joke of course. You won't have to pay me.
Again, wink.

Play it safe and look up both of them. I mean, at worst, you'll just piss off the two biggest writers of this shitfest, so no harm, no foul there, and at best get eighty keks for the price of forty.

My services are not cheap but I will punish the two mans as you have requested. I will bill you fairly so do not worry about it.
No discounts or special offers: two mans means two jobs. I only take money after the job is done so do not try to contact me now.
I will find you after job is over and then we will discuss payment.

That image reminds me, in the original wasn't Lion-O just a kid that got aged up from hyper sleep or something?

Yes, if I remember correctly.
I think the explanation was that his pod malfunctioned or something like that.

Yeah, the Thundercats all went into suspended animation because it would take so long to reach the nearest habitable planet.

Jaga died on the trip because he knew that letting the autopilot steer the ship the entire way just wasn't feasible, so he piloted it until he died of old age.

He went full Obi Wan and just left a cloak, since I guess having the Thundercats find his corpse afterward would be too grim for a children's cartoon.

Somewhere along the way, Lion-O's stasis pod malfunctioned and he somehow grew to physical adulthood without, you know, dying of malnutrition first…

Thus, he had the body of a ripped adult and the right to rule as their king, but the mind of a prepubescent boy. Which, frankly, is a dangerous combination, so I guess he was lucky the Thundercats put him in charge while only admonishing him about his inexperience once every episode, rather than just telling him Snarf was still in charge of babysitting him and the Thunderkittens would be his direct superiors.

I bet I still have my action figures from the mid 90s.
They were old when I got them.

Original Wilykit is underrated

That guy's name was Dan Norton, and bringing it up in every single Thundercats doesn't make you look any better

The only Thundercats figure I ever owned, I won in a contest that was on a gum wrapper. The time between entering the contest and receiving the Monkian figure in the mail was so long that, when I received it, I actually had to really think about why the hell someone was sending me a toy.

I did have a Thundertank pencil sharpener, though.


Yes. Yes she is.

Actually this shit could have been fixed immediately and seemed almost apparent in the pilot. The writers where just totally incompetent.

why don't the kitties believe in technology
Well because it doesn't work they don't have any batteries or gas anymore they used it all up and what is left doesn't really work because they can't replicate the parts, you can't bang microchips out of flint or forge them with iron for example. Make none of the other beings on this world have technology except for a few relics they think of as magic, some of which don't even work. The lizard shits have it because the space lich gave it to them, he can make more from the manufacturaries in is crashed space ship. This should have been obvious to the writers. This makes the villain a real threat since he can out muscle everybody else and gives a reason for the relatively stronger and faster kitties to be on top of their world.

I dislike the whole "lesson" episode shit since it is 2 80s 4 me. But if you wanted one give it to Tygra, he's good at shit almost immediately like ranged weapons (whip/gun) but also good with swords. Have him be too cocky and get knocked down a peg, if you want him with Cheetra then make this part of what pushes them together. Have him come to the conclusion that just because he is the best fighter doesn't mean he is the best leader.

If Liono needs to have a lesson make it be "just because you were right about the robot shit doesn't mean you'll be right about everything" after having been proven right a couple times and getting sure of himself before making a huge fucking mistake. Which would actually be pertinent to leadership skills and all.

Make them take longer to find Panthro to hammer in how fucked they are without a kingdom to support them. Show the other races animosity toward the kitties by their unwillingness to help even when space lich shit is obviously going down.

Have Mummyman actually kill subordinates who fail. You don't need to show it happening just make that grunt disappear. Make it obvious that he doesn't take shit.

Make Mummra just one of a race of people(actual humans maybe) who attained immortality and ruled as galactic tyrants with their mastery of magic and technology and often became undead to live forever. The mid run climax is "we've found a weapon to defeat Mummra, yay! Oh shit! We mistranslated the ancient moon-runes, it doesn't say "weapon to destory Mummra" it says "bane that wished to destroy Mummra" que evil laughter as the second space wizard rises from his grave with an army of iron golems and robots.

Hell you could make the new space wizard seem to be a nice guy for several episodes but turn out to be a monster who rules through mind control or puts on the face of a beneficent ruler so the masses will obey him while using secret police to crush descent.

For the second half have the group desperately on the run again as the two villains com to blows, each offering false promises to sway them to his side.

And for the finale have the two villains battling one another until they are weakened and the protagonists attacking them when they are exhausted enough to be beaten and sealed away or destroyed.

Bam, three fucking minutes an there is your character arc and and story arch rough draft.

I think the writers had a general idea of what they wanted to do for the first couple episodes, but didn't have anything else and just winged it without thinking about how good some of their ideas were.

I agree with this sentiment. Hentai's a big industry in Japan, you know there's a market for lewd western animation, so when the fuck are we gonna get that shit going? I'd buy a blu-ray of a pornographic version of Thundercats.


What are you? Some kind of pussy?

Is Mummrah supposed to give a Thulsa Doom style speech?

"You broke into my house, stole my property, murdered my servants, and my pets. And that is what grieves me the most! You killed my snakegirl."

Sadly we probably wouldn't see under-aged Wilykit taking the dick in a Thundercats porn series. If we did she'd probably be disgustingly aged up to ensure that the content was 100% vanilla. It seems now that animators and r34 artist are afraid to create anything featuring characters aged 17 below, except for Incog, AG, minus8 (who's becoming more vanilla by the minute),and a handful of others.

It's because outside of the United States loli is becoming increasingly more illegal. And since a lot of Artists and websites are based outside the US, a lot of 'em don't want any problems that might arise.

You're right, but if we kickstarted it, nobody could really stop us if we put out as a nice DVD extra scene included in the boxset.

I thought that was just an Anglosphere problem?

All I know is that Russia recently passed a law banning all artistic interpretations of minors engaged in sexual acts. So that's most of Europe, Canada, and Russia. Leaving the nips and Burgerland as the only two countries worth a fuck producing that kind of art.

What countries in Europe outside of Bongland and Sweden Yes have anti loli laws?
I'm guessing Germany is safe since Fuchur hasn't had to go on the lam yet.

Most of the world besides the US and Japan. Most just aren't enforced. And no counting lawless darkie lands of course.

Like the other user said, pretty much everyone. It's just not highly enforced elsewhere, but even the idea is enough to scare away most people from producing or hosting that sort of content.

Nobody wants to go to prison with a reputation for those sorts of proclivities, after all.

That's why I said no thunderkitten sex.
Even thunderkitten nudity could be risky, but fuck it I say we risk it.
I say we can make a reboot of the Thundercats that mix Game of Thrones and Conan. Can Cheetara run from rape? Maybe. Can she run from the memory of having chocked on Mumm-Ra's ancient cum after he used his evil sorcery to trick her into believing he was Liono? Probably not.
We'd have to settle for naked Wilykit instead of fucking Wilykit, except on the home video releases where there would be extended scenes of her masturbating, but that'd have to be all.
So, I say we do this. Let's KS this bitch!
How much is the Thundercats IP worth?

I think we could get away with at least one bonus scene for Wilykit with a special DVD release. But I agree with being sneaky about it.

I'm down for that, though I've no idea how to manage a product, can't draw, and only have somewhat passable skill as a writefag!

But hey, worst case scenario we just get to pocket the cash of a bunch of sorry individuals!

Question is which art style would such a remake be in? The original series or the tryhard anime esque style of the 2011 remake?

If cats ever tried to evolve and form an advanced society I believe this is exactly what would happen. Fucking cats.

You'd probably get more people to kick in if you went with the newer designs, weebs have a lot of disposable income, if it looks a little more anime we'll get more people's interest.

How about the original character designs but updated? Wilykit's 80s design looked better than her 2011 version. Any drawfags anons can contact for concepts?

I could go for an updated version of classic character designs, maybe mix up the two, add some weeb flavor.

Sadly, the only drawfag I know specializes in pixel art. Could maybe check the drawthreads on various boards? May be able to get some Holla Forumsirgins in or somethin'.

I was thinking the same thing, but also it could be interesting to go with a more detailed, less cartoony style.
I don't know. I feel like a detailed style that's all about muscles, realistic proportions and realistic movement would benefit the story when it comes to adventuring and gory battles. Battles and adventures would be key to this production, guys. This isn't just porn.
But at the same time, porn is important and for some reason it's hard for me to think about the sex scenes without cartoony designs. I mean, bigger eyes tend to be more expressive, and during sex facial expressions may add a lot.

I feel like a more cartoony look would lend itself better to pornography, yes. If we want it to be something people could actually jack it to, anyway.

Game of Thrones has a lot of fucking but I wouldn't really call it fap worthy, so I'd avoid trying to emulate that sort of 'so realistic it's kind of off-putting style'.

More exaggerated stuff would also be much easier to translate into animation.

I don't think there's a single wrong thing in this post.
Yes, cartoony is better. Thanks for the perspective.
I'd suggest going with a cartoony style with some weeb influence, but not fully manga.

That's useless for this project, but still pretty cool.
Is the artist any good?

I may be wrong, but my guess would be the 2011 designs belong to someone who isn't necessarily the holder of the rights to the entire franchise.
So that'd be a legal reason not to go with those.
There are many reasons why it would be important to go with completely new designs, one being that we don't want people associating our reboot with the 2011 reboot. People may think it's a continuation, or even a porno parody of that show instead of being a whole new thing that's completely independent.
Now, if we were a small, independent publishing house and we wanted to create a short Thundercats series in comic book form (and make our own reboot that way, with our own designs and no porn, using the characters, names and basic ideas but coming up with our own stories and premises), I suppose we could contact whoever owns the rights, pay for the licence and publish a Thundercats™ comic legally. It would be a licensed, legal, official reboot with its own canon.
We could go, tell them we want to make out own Thundercats comic, explain it would be a gory action-heavy story with a lot of exciting adventures and decapitations, pay for the license and that'd be it.
But if we went and tried to do the same thing only this time we added "we want it to be porn as well" they'd probably refuse, because even if we pay for the license they wouldn't want to ruin the image of their precious IP.
(Remember: violence is cool but sex is dirty)
So what we have to do here is harder, but much more rewarding: we can't pay for the license, so we have to buy the franchise.
And that's expensive, but I don't know how expensive. Several million dollars, I'd guess. No less that 100 million if I had to guess.

You're welcome user. I agree with the slight weeb influence, keep it discernibly western but with the weeb appeal.

He's not terrible or anything, but pixel art is all he's got any actual skill at, and despite being okay it's definitely not great.

I agree that new designs are the smart way to handle, for the sake of differentiating ourselves from the original iterations, and because I'd just like something a little more appealing to jerk it to.

Buying the property is definitely the biggest hurdle here, I don't know how much the Thundercats IP would really go for these days, the reboot was a failure, and it hasn't been relevant for a long time, there's no really dedicated hardcore fanbase.

Even if we were sneaky about it, and we'd likely need to be tight lipped about plans for pornography up until we had the chance to actually do it, but even then it'd be a pretty hard sell. Keep in mind that suits hold onto dead properties forever just so nobody else can have it, even if they have no intention of ever using it.

We wouldn't really know until we tried, I guess. First matter would be getting the money put together and getting the initial design and planning done. We'd need to recruit artists, animators, I can writefag but it'd be wise to have another writer or two on board. All of them need to be paid, so that's even more money we'd need to spend on a regular basis, in addition to the lump sum we'd need to fling out initially.

I don't really think this'd be possible with just crowdfunding alone, we'd need some investors. And even then, provided we managed to get all of that, we'd still run the risk of the people who own Thundercats just telling us no.

If all else fails, we can just turn it into our own property. Lightning Felines! Just kidding

Still, that's an option as well, if all else falls through.

We'd need to gauge interest, first of all, and take a serious look at just how much money we could put together for a project like that. A full animated series may not be feasible, but a series of maybe six episodes? It's interesting, but I think totally possible were we to actually knuckle down and try.

And who knows? Maybe making a successful adult animation can kickstart a bigger industry, that'd be rad.

Shadman may be an extremely shitty artist and on par with late-90s Internet R34, but at least he has the balls to still draw loli and keep a reputation unlike Zone.

I respect the edgy motherfucker, but his art makes me want to vomit.

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I'd be curious to see what a mix of the old and new designs would look like.

For one thing: tail or no tail?

Tail.
When I suggested we shouldn't use the designs of the 2011 series I didn't mean we shouldn't be… let's say, inspired by them.
Thunderkittens have never been cuter, and Cheetara's boobs are just awesome. Also, slender bus still muscular males?
Those designs were made for porn. So… yeah, tails. Not the 2011 designs, but not too far from those.
Just far enough because we don't wanna be sued and because we need people to realize it's not a parody or a continuation.

I'll just leave these here…

Wish more of the production materials from the 2011 version were released, would be interesting to see.

Oh yeah, tails for sure. Besides, is there anything more appealing than the thought of getting to use a nice fluffy tail as leverage as you pound kitten pussy? I certainly don't think so.

Ok, you're writing the sex scenes, because that mental image gave me a sensation down there.

Anyone else remember how, in the original, that the TC's were all nudist back on Thundera, but Jaga made them all wear clothes when they packed up and moved to Earth, because Earth isn't clothing optional?


I never realized how much I wanted this.

They have no genitals, what the fuck.

Fur maybe?
Did they have fur in the original?

Has Sonichu taught you nothing?

Oh my.
Good ol' Chris-chan thought about everything…

Jesus.

Though, testicles wouldn't function if they were internal. They would overheat and the sperm cells would die.

I can write sex scenes, I would like to write sex scenes.


It's a thing any man with a working penis should want, my friend.

Like lion brain!

Lion brains sound like they'd be tasty.

Its crocodile brain, like lion brain, animal nature.

Never watched it.

What's so bad about this scene?

If you pay close attention, it ain't porn.

So. Anyone have a download link of the 2011 series?

I can't imagine it's hard to find a torrent.
I'm sure I have every episode in one of my hard drives, or maybe even on DVD, in AVI or MKV format. If you can't into torrents due to your homosexuality, I could maybe upload them episodes.

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This Thundercats party cannot be over.
It's a Thundercats party!

Furry friends, I realize the Thundercats are much more human that animal in the scale, but doesn't that make the hairy boobs more gross than sexy?
Maybe they have smooth skin like humans but the color is like the coat of a cat?

Its a shame she doesn't have a crotch or ass in the old continuity. They were like fucking Barbie dolls. Also it was clear that the studio that did 2011 Wilykit had a hard on for her considering all that pantsu concept art they did. A shame that such cute design was wasted on such a mediocre remake.

That scene was beyond retarded. Did the writers have no self awareness? And why did they have such a hate boner for Lion-O?

You can't expect to be able to say that without having to drop some of that cute/sexy pantsu concept art.
Even if you get dubs you have a responsibility.

Someone already posted it.

Find more and post it all.

By concept art, is there anything besides the ref sheet for her? Please share if so!

Best post this thread.

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I found a few but none seem to be well seeded and the best I found was TV recorded Avi files with all the watermarks and ads. So if you have the DVD version, I'd appreciate it.

OK, I have ashitload of DVDs and messy hard drives but I'll look.

Rather than teaming up with Lion-O to find a way to save the others, Cheetara gives up just because she's in love with Tygra, which ends up leading to Lion-O's temporary death. This comes after everyone treating Lion-O like shit for no reason and Tygra bitching about how he would've been a better king.

What I want to know is where can I watch the uncut Exodus pilot movie

But didn't Lion'O nearly get everyone killed multiple times?

That thing with the boat, ignoring Panthro, and a few other times I'd bet.

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If it isn't on either of these sites, I don't know where it'd be.


He might've with the boat one, but I can't even remember the Panthro shit well enough to say.

He did with the boat, but regained himself when he realized that plan was stupid.

After Panthro's introduced they go to a mountain to mine crystals, Panthro wants to go under cover of night, but Lion'O goes in on his own, so they have to scrap that plan and rescue you him- losing the element of surprise.

Also- WHISKERS.

i doubt it would be all that bad, people pet and scratch their dogs and cats, so unless you intend a lot of licking, everything besides the nipple, wouldent be that much of a problem i would think.

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I don't even like hairy vulvas.
I want my vaginas smooth and without a single hair. Not shaven or waxed, though.

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Thunderkittens never have smooth cunnies. They're born hairy down there.
Thoughts?

Then Wilikit could have raped him.

Wait, is there where I can go for my fix of monster boys? Because it's fucking hard for me to find monster men anywhere.

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What? What did I say?

Oh my god I think I remember this. I would rather catch up on what I've missed after dropping Adventure Time than this.

Last episode I saw years ago was the one with the little plant people that died in like a day and then my On-Demand program never put up anymore episodes after that.

Hello friend

The reboot is only good for sexual. There's literally nothing good about it except for the designs, and the animation was decent to good.

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New Wily a shit.

Tell me about Mummra. Why does he wear the bandages?

On their defense Ukraine and Russia have a huge problem with Jews trafficking minors.

Only in comparison because original Wilykat and Wilykit are super perfect.

I wanna see original Wilykat seducing and making love to 2011 Wilykit.

Most likely. Ol' Wily was my waifu decades before waifus were popular. Too bad her character development was next to non-existent.

it totally falls in line with hating on strong lead characters

imagine Lion-O as Finn and it all falls into place

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Is it just me, or is Incog totally phoning it in these days?

He was GOAT a couple years back.

Do you even know what GOAT means?

man, it always makes me sad that such a great art direction and decent animation team was wasted on complete shit writing.

I don't even know what I was typing there

I must've meant to say GOAT rule 34 artist or GOAT Ben 10 porn drawer or something

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Too bad the toys kinda suck.

NICE

WOAH WHAT?
WHERE DID THESE COME FROM?!

China.

Dunno. Just googled.

From all I hear, they kept shitting on the main character for being an idiot but didn't actually show him being an idiot, and jacked off another character being being so much better. So why didn't they just make the other character the protagonist?

It seems like they were writing it like fanfiction, slave to a formula that was at odds with their actual intentions.

I will never understand how they can afford this level of animation yet only provide the cheapest writing.

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What in the fuck?

The show had that sort of problem from the beginning. The writers are frauds.
But the designs are cute.

Seems to be the impression I've gotten.

Yeah. And I don't think they'll try again.
Too bad.

Why is prostitute Wilykit a common theme?