>character did quite literally nothing wrong>is treated like shit in both his games anyway

>>523303494>T. oriel

>>523298252I would have let him take my soul. Go do what needs to be done, dude.

There's a hot-ass pic I've seen where Toriel's ass is gaped like a foot wide after taking her ex-husband

>>523298352This is why undertale's morality fell flat for me, I was just fine walking around the ruins, it's the fucking monsters that went out of their way to attack me, fucking excuse me for defending myself.

>>523298352>>523305727To be fair, other than a few butthurt monsters SEETHING at you for killing their friends, you aren't really treated like a villain unless you go the autistic GRINDAN' route of walking in circles to kill every monster possible. You don't get the super friendo happy ending, but you're not treated like scum in terms of the narrative.

>>523298252cute feet

>>523298252

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>>523304272Shut the fuck up t*riel, I want you to be my mom but you're such a stupid dumb bitch.

>>523306506meant for>>523303494

>>523298252>>is treated like shit in both his games anywayTo be fair, Toby's very clearly aware of the fact that most people sympathized with Asgore and realized Toriel's a total bitch in Deltarune. The fucking flowers in the trash can are proof enough of that.

>>5232982521. He murdered at least 6 children.2. Literally a satanic goat.3. Despite being a goat, he has paws for feet instead of hooves, further proving that he's also plagiarizing the mimigas of Cave Story.4. He's in a terrible game with a terrible cult of a fanbase made by an anti-American guy who donated money to terrorists.He and everyone else in that game deserved to be shat on and not sympathized.

>>523307236>He murdered at least 6 children.The order to murder any humans in the underground was a hasty one issued in rage by a king who relied on his wife for much of the ruling; it was also not issued with the knowledge that every single human to arrive would be a child.>Literally a satanic goatIncorrect. He's a boss monster.>Despite being a goat, he has paws for feet instead of hooves, further proving that he's also plagiarizing the mimigas of Cave Story.>i don't know what plagiarizing is>He's in a terrible game with a terrible cult of a fanbase made by an anti-American guy who donated money to terrorists.Oh, wait, I'm responding to bait. Nevermind.

>>523299006Also humans are significantly stronger than monsters, Asgore would be their only hope, if he were to die they would be wiped out if there was going to be another war

>>523306341what the game doesn't show you is that those children were real jerks

>>523298252>all character in the game attack you at random as "a form of communication"This is treated as a perfectly normal thing, even if you fucking suffer or die from it, narratively speaking there is no problem and it's like the most normal thing in the world for them to kill you.>one character wants to kill you for the good of his people, despite being morally opposed to the idea and being forced by the conditions he is in to make the horrible decision to do soNarratively treated like a peace of shit that deserves to die.What the fuck was the meaning of this shit.

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>>523298252>game is quite literally "murder is bad">murderer is treated like shit>he even gets forgiven in the endwtf are you people on about?

>>523298252>bothwat

Someone post some fat Toriel ass or something.

>>523306214True. In fact the only genuinely bad endings are those in which you kill papyrus, who never once poses a threat to the player.

Also if you want to pretend like letting children out of your mommy prison is as morally reprehensible as actually killing the kids, you're actually retarded.

>>523306341/thread

>>523315510It is when it's almost guaranteed death. Most of the kids weren't as DETERMINED as Frisk and never even made it to the barrier.

>>523298252I really wonder what Toby's relationship with his dad is because in one way he obviously makes Asgore a very lovable and sympathetic character but at the same time the universe itself seems to hate him and always puts him in the worst possible situations.

>>523316623He just lies with SJW dogs and thus has misandric flees.

Why people hate her?I mean i understands that you don't love her for what she has done, but the subject were on the verge of death or even already in dust, was forced by Asgore and mostly followed instruction of Gaster. I mean i see more shitting on Alphys than Undyne who is ready to push a war with Asgore despite knowing a genocide from either side (she believe she can beat the humans but the real genocide gonna be the whole monster race)Redpill me plz on why I should hate her that much (not excusing for hiding the monster, she should have been punished atleast a little)

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>>523317890She's a fat faggot weeaboo necromancer pedophile. There's not s single redeemable thing about her. Being socially awkward doesn't forgive being a reprehensible piece of shit. Plus you can't even kill her outside of her impled death in genocide, in most endings she gets away with everything.

>>523306341Considering the placement of most weapons and armor, Asgore couldn't had been the one to kill them aside from maybe the last one if I forgot.

>>523310797one of them was a fucking baby

>>523318409>fat faggot weeabooIsn't that most of Holla Forums?>necromancerNecromancer are cool when it's related with skeletons>Plus you can't even kill her outside of her impled death in genocideFair

>character is portrayed as gay>but designed for riding human dick

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>>523319159>he has found the filled up diaper armor

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>>523305727undertale's morality is based on "recognizing you are privileged" because you can go back on time at will if you end up dying, while the monsters you kill cant

>>523319306>female character has a dick

>>523319306>characther in fanart is sublime>actual art is dogshit

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>Some of the gear you find from other humans is coated in dustWonder if all the other humans were kids or if their ages varied.

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>>523318976Some of the potential deaths were also tied to the area countering how they are, here's a couple examples >bravery, who charges headfirst into problems has their equipment found at Snowdin, likely ran into too many blue attacks>patience died at waterfall, if Undyne was a thing they probably didn't run from the fight and tried to spare her

>>523319679Justice had an empty gun if I remember right, which makes me wonder if it was a kid or not

>>523319219>Isn't that most of Holla Forums?no>Necromancer are coolalso no.

>>523321359The armor description feels vaguely relevant>"Cowboy Hat" - Armor DF 12 >This battle-worn hat makes you want to grow a beard.

>>523305727I see it more like an obviously HUGE powergap, you're a little loli and yet you destroy even the strongest creatures in the land, as if a bunch of toddlers tried to attack you

>>523305727Most of them weren't actually attacking you. One of the books explain that the bullets are a form of communication, the only issue is you're a human, so bullets hurt.

>>523322018But the thing is that they can easily kill you. Frisk having infinite lives is unique, all the other kids died.

>>523322097>One of the booksIrrelevant

>>523322097>One of the booksFuck off.

>>523322325????????

>>523322325>>523322402Is this where we're at now, Holla Forums?We don't read books or talk to NPCs in RPGs anymore?

>>523322097if someone is so fucking dumb that he doesnt know he is killing other being then he deserves to die.

>>523322279It's literally the reason the monsters want your soul to begin with, determination is a human thing, flowey just outdetermined all the other kids at some point or another.

>>523322591Most people have always skipped that text in these games, and to be fair few games actually has good town/library lore

>>523323057So I'm just supposed to accept the monsters didn't know better even after half a dozen kids died?

>>523322591Sorry, used to lorefags citing books written about the game universe, not books inside the game. One of the ones in the Librarby?

>>523298252>killed all those innocent childrenYeahTotally nothing wrong

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>>523322591In a game with as much fucking dialogue as undertale, I expect at least some to acknowledge the misunderstanding.

>>523324151Yes.

>>523324089You're the last one and they've been imprisoned for centuries, it's because they know you're the key to freedom that they go all out on you.

Well I mean he had the other 6 kids killed, and intended to fuck humanity with the souls.He didn't really seem to be all for going through with it by the time Frisk got to him, but he had already killed innocent children out of revenge.

>>523304115no you should feel bad because you are a literal immortal god being.there is no self defense scenario.

He did what he had to.

>>523318976Asgore killing all the kids is one of the very first things Toby clarified

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>>523324806yeah, one of the things the undertale is about in a metasense is that with higher about of pwer and competency comes higher responsibilities and standards, because you can achieve great and terrible things no one is capable of stopping if you wished, so at atleast don't be an asshole about it

>>523317890>was forced by AsgoreAsgore only gave her the job because she claimed to have created a robot with a soul. That's a lie, it was a ghost monster inside a mechanical shell.She could have owned up to it at any time before fucking around with a substance she had literally now knowledge of. She could have at least fucking tested it slowly and discretely first instead of going all out and just hoping for the best. Asgore is said to be a patient and understanding ruler by everyone you meet, he would've understood if she admitted her lie or even took her time. Hell, they even forgive her for making those abominations, so everything she does is because she's a shit tier person.

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>>523325731>have a chance to build actual nuance in your story by leaving something unexplained>explain it awayHoly FUCK, fox confirmed mega hack. How did undertale even get popular?

>>523300215>Kind unfair to Alphys, since she also was in a shitty position.She got into that position by herself, even lying to Asgore about her achievementsShe fucked up big time by being both unscientific as incompetent that could easily be prevented, swept everything under the rug, never faced the consequence and the ghosts of her past kept following her

>>523322941And on top of that if the monsters were really that oblivious that they were gravely hurting the humans they were shooting bullets at you'd think there would me much more misunderstanding/miscommunication beyond that if they couldn't notice something that obvious

there's two undertale threads i seecan this be the porn one? thanks

>>523317890People hate her because alphys reminds them how much of a loser they are.

>>523317890>but the subject were on the verge of death Then let them rest in peace. Imagine being a dude in the hospital and your grieving family turns to some fat lesbian "doctor" who doesn't even know how to check temperatures and asks her to do something about it. Imagine her committing fucking atrocities unknown to man just to satisfy her shitty crush against the head doc by mutilating you beyond belief and fusing you with a bunch of other near death patients. Alpyhs deserved the fucking door, not for herself to be validated or to get the only good character in the game as her lesbian gf in the end.

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>>523326732Get your mind out the gutter user

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>>523307236Do goats also have hands? Just curious

>>523298252The Pale King did it much better>kills thousands of his OWN kids for the good of his kingdom>Fucks some random side girl to give her a daughter in order to help in his great plan to save his kingdom>personally trains the one kid he didn't kill to fight a spiteful, hateful moth bitch>Was worshipped as a god-king>Even after he fucked off into his little dream realm he was still loved by the peopleHow can Asgore the retard ever compete? Nigga gets cucked by a fucking skeleton lmao.Nigga can't even get himself a side wife.

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>>523326727They don't know Frisk is a human and all their attacks go straight for the Soul, so it's not likely they even do noticable physicial damageAt that point it's just as much Frisk's fault for standing there and not making it more obvious that he's in pain

>>523326854BASED

>>523322018>Not anime>No specific genderTake your shitty fannon on /vg/

>>523322325>>523322402>Skips the lore>Also: "THE STORY IS BAD AND BORING"shut up

>>523326732OP here. ChubbySusieposting is welcomed and encouraged. Pedoshit can go in the other thread.

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>>523324692Well bring it, faggots

>>523299006Toriel is the worst character she killed kids too by “ mistake” she is not different than Asgorre besides she didn’t do shit ? Just escape and hide, worthless goat bitch

>>523327507Even that bit of lore is retarded and makes no sense. The monsters can see you take damage. They killed a half dozen kids before you. They can also talk perfectly normally.

>>523324806>>523325953>muh fourth wall shitUndertale is shit. Why do you people like this pretentious garbage.The only good thing to come out of this game was the Goat Mum lewds

>>523328598retard

>could have escorted the first child to Asgore to see if he really was so far gone as to murder a child out of rage>could have intervened if he was>instead just tells a bunch of kids that "mean ol' Asgore's gonna diddle your soul to death" if they leave her>puts her own emotional discomfort at having to confront her wayward ex above the lives of six innocent children>finally comes up with a new plan: goading a child into murdering her in cold blood to prove they are "strong">would rather die scarring a child for life than just talk to her fucking ex like a grownup

>>523324806>>523325953I disagree because if Frisk just wants to go home, there's no reason he should be forced to stay, or be forced to sacrifice himself for their freedom. The way Frisk gets railroaded into asking Toriel "how do I go home" in the prologue heavily implies that is his desire.

>>523328909there is no sacrifice. frisk literally cannot die.I think all those complaints are retarded. if you think those people deserve death you get your bitter neutral ending and thats it. literally what you asked for.

>>523328823It is pretentious garbage. The game tries to shame you for killing monsters who are out to kill you or steal your soul in self-defense, while it also tries to be le wacky fourth-wall breaking meta game. Game even shames you for starting a new file if you got the good ending, and if you get the bad ending and then get the good ending next time it punishes you for last time. Too bad the game lacks the self-awareness to release it can't shame you for killing things while admitting everything is just a game at the same time.>>523328834Post rump

>>523328909But that's not what their point is. Frisk can leave if he wants. He just can't claim self defense when he's immortal and can find a peaceful solution to every conflict. From the monster's perspective he literally just walks right through every attempt to block or stop him and leaves a free man at the end of it all.

>>523329570>he

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Someone just post the fucking porn already

>>523329976You beat me to it. Was about to askPost as much Toriel ass as you can

>>523329812Frisk is boy, Chara is girlYou know it's true

>>523299006Asgore did the right thing, by waiting for humans to fall in there, making the deaths of the humans who fell in look like suicides instead of actively going through the barrier and slaughtering 6 other humans himself, it would prevent a 2nd war between humans and monsters. Humans curbstomped Monsters before and grown greater technologically ever since Monsters were sealed away behind a barrier. It would have been a fucking genocide for Asgore's people.

If you faggots start posting porn but don't post any chubby Susie I'm gonna commit an act of unspeakable evil

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>"monsters">most of the cast are anthro animals and human skeletonsWhat did TobyFox mean by this?

>>523323057He other kids didn't have DETERMINATION, according to the snowdin ball minigame, they each had their unique powers.They still all died

>>523330313This thread isn't about Deltarune. Fap to Goatmom

>>523322097That's bullshit, the monster explicitly attack you, they're just too retarded to be effective.

>>523330352I get what you mean, but the entire cast of enemies makes up for it I think. Especially Jerry.

>>523330363All human souls have Determination, but only Red ones like Frisk have it in such abundance. It's why Flowey stopped being able to Save/Load when Frisk fell down, Frisk's soul had more Determination naturally than he got from Alphys pumping his little daisy body full of it

>>523298252He's only shit on because he's a coward who couldn't decide between using one soul to go and get enough to break the barrier, or staying underground. Instead waiting for people to fall underground. No agency at all i bet he chooses neutral ends in SMT.

>>523330231It's repeatedly stated that 7 Souls would make Asgore a God. If that was true, he'd have been able to wipe out humanity before it even knew he was there. But then as the Neutral fight with Flowey shows the souls would have just rebelled and stopped him.

>>523330594See>>523330231

>>523330594As opposed to a war that would be launched which would result in the death of all his subjects? He was very careful in his decision, he waited for one reason, humans who fell down from Mt. Ebott were looking to throw their lives away anyway. Asgore would use those souls for a better purpose.

>>523305727Most of them are litteraly retarded, and you're an immortal god, so while they indeed are at fault for trying to kill you, you have the ability to be guaranteed to defuse the situation eventually end therefore you never *have* to kill anyone.And because you have a choice, not picking the moral option, even through inaction, is a bad thing to do, morally speaking, it's basically the trolley problem.

>>523330858>he waited for one reasonIt's explicitly stated that it's because he was a pussy who decided he didn't want to kill anyone after all but couldn't bring himself to end the hope he'd given his people by saying he would free them, so he sat around hoping no more humans would fall down the hole

>>523298252Wasn't that the whole point of his character? He seemed like a nice guy doing terrible things that cost him his happiness and family for the sake of fixing his broken kingdom. I liked the neutral story more than pacifist.

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>>523330030stop making shitty reddit quips and just dump the porn fag

>>523331049oh my god what happened to eustace oh god oh fuck

Thread is lacking cute asgore pics

>>523322018Have you never played an RPG where literal children were able to gain enough LVLs to take on godlike monsters? That's the jab that Undertale takes with it's premise. Humans have the potential to be way more powerful than monsters in an RPG because of RPG mechanics

>>523331985>futaShit taste fa.m

>>523332281>asriel>futawew that's some headcanon lad

>>523322325>>523322402one of the books in an in-game library retards

>>523332323I thought it was Toriel>AsrielLeave now, pedo

>Idly threatens you even if you do nothing wrong>Doesn't lift a finger against you unless you literally threaten to destroy the universe>Does nothing of value the entire game>Still shows up at the end to pass judgement on youis sans the most morally reprehensible character in undertale?

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>>523332691he knows that its pointless.

SANESS!youtube.com/watch?v=6iQcYpgu3Fs

>>523332691He's certainly competing with Toriel for that title. I really do not understand the hype for sans after taking a more critical eye to his character. He's really aloof and bitchy, I certainly never felt comfortable around him. Wasn't much better in deltarune either.

>>523332691He just does it for shits and giggles

>>523331847

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>>523319159a jerk baby

fags

>>523329449Why are you getting so assblasted about what the characters are saying to you if dude they’re just pixels lmao. And why are you claiming self-defense when you’re a fucking god who is inconvenienced at worst by death.

>>523332691

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>>523314792He appears in deltarune

>>523331985>he thinks porn slaps better when it's posted on a blue board instead of just hitting up literally any porn site

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>>523329129>frisk literally cannot die. So? Getting attacked while immortal can still justify self-defense. Frisk can be injured and feel pain. Just because you can't be murdered doesn't mean you can't be a victim of assault. Obviously, not all of the monsters are violent though.>>523329570>and can find a peaceful solution to every conflict.The monsters don't seek a peaceful resolution first either, they killed 6 humans long before Frisk even arrived. They'd rather see Frisk lay down his life for their freedom than stop and search for a peaceful solution.

>>523333258Why does the game try to have it's cake and eat it too by trying to have a moral highground while also admitting everything is just a game at the same time?>And why are you claiming self-defense when you’re a fucking god who is inconvenienced at worst by death.>Le meta shit

>>523325731i do not even understand this conversation.how do the armor placements make sense if this is supposed to imply that asgore offed them all?

>>523333272kek

>>523333468Kek

>>523333504>>523325731Literally only Asgore, Toriel, Undyne, Alphys, Sans and Papyrus know you're a human. Every other single monster thinks you're a weird looking monster as well.

>>523319159You do realize he had to do it to break the barrier right?

>>523332691He's for whatever reason aware of the timeline resets, has fought and sometimes beaten Flowey heroically thousands, or more times. It doesn't matter, as the timeline resets, and he remembers it all.

>>523333272>do they have chicken nuggetsWhy did this make me choke up a little

>>523333846>he remembers it allHe doesn't remember anything. He's just vaguely aware there's timeline fuckery going on and Frisk is at the centre of it all.

>>523332691I still can't believe he's actually in Smash Bros. Sakurai you fucking madman

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>>523298438ThisGoats are shit and furrybait

>>523333541Because it’s a game that tries to oppose the practice of autistically replaying games a billion times until you stop seeing characters as characters and start seeing as nicely dressed up collision boxes with some dialogue assigned to them in certain contexts. That’s literally what Flowey/Chara embody during genocide. Hell, you can’t even find genocide without word of mouth or going “I wonder what the level cap is”

>>523299006I've had this stuck inside me for 5 fucking yearsThank you user

>>523334148SomethingAwful is dead, user. It's okay, you can let go now.

how's middle school?

>>523334254Who the fuck has time to play through a single RPG enough times to start viewing a game that way?

>>523298252Asgore is a weak little faggot bitch who instead of being a powerful leader and king for his community to rally around in a time of desperation instead let himself be influenced into starting an entirely one-sided war he had no intention of fightingDue to his cowardice and inability to own up to anything or make his own decisions he was either directly or indirectly responsible for the murder of multiple humans and led the monsters into a delusional cult-like fantasy of escape and freedom that he is unwilling to provide, turning a blind eye to their fanatical attempts to attack any human they see in favor of moping about watering and drinking teafuck you asgore

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>>523334607here's your validation (You)

>>523331985>deletedsomeone else better start posting porn, since thats the only thing UT threads are good for.

>>523334871*BRRRRRAPPPPP* *sniff-sniff*ooo most pungent kirby

>>523333046My child killer can't possibly be this cute.

Muffet porn, don't open

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>>523319306I bet she fucked Asgore

>>523335206Spicy

>>523335206Man that looks painful

>>523333504>Getting attacked while immortal can still justify self-defenseliterally no.

>>523335235Asgore is a bottom bitch now that he's freed from Toriel.

>>523335206If they pull that spider silk off, will the spider die?

>>523334059KEK

>>523335647quite the big contraption

>>523332691he knows what "you" have done in other playthroughs. hes justified

>>523298252>did nothing wrongdidn't kill enough kids.

>>523335745>>523335745>>523335745>>523335745

>It's a Holla Forums endorses child murder episode

>>523335961Asgore "Tykes on Spikes" Dreemurr did nothing wrong

>>523334978It was pedoshit, so it was good that it was deleted. Based mods kept the Toriel pics up though

>>523319306>>but designed for riding human dick>implying not being designed for riding human dick is possibleUndyne's just cranky cause she hasn't been dicked yet.>>523319580Same for all of them as well. Especially the "totally-not-human" ones.

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>Asgore "Toddler ahead loses the head" Dreemurr>Asgore "For each child cries, my Trident fries" Dreemurr>Asgore "Splat the Brat" Dreemurr>Asgore "Preschool Speedrunner" Dreemurr>Asgore "Toddler Destroyer" Dreemurr

>>523335961when its about saving your own children and people all is fair desu.

>>523334749Anon, where do you think you are?

>>523337441it's a bit late for saving his own children user

>>523298252The moment I realized that Asgore is looking down during the fight and is not wearing a cool looking helmet i immediately felt disappointed

>>523338181he's also bald as a bean lol

>>523338181I think the opposite, i love how his shadow gives the illusion of an evil grin, showing that he is both a kind king and a demon at the same time

>>523298252>Asgore "King Kid Killer" Dreemurr>nothing wrong

>>523339820>he can be ur angle or ur demenDeep

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>>523335647It would be extremely painful.

>>523340750>>523340750>>523340750>>523340750

Undertale was really boring and I wish it wasn't so popular.

>>523299006>She let them go until Frisk for some reason>Implying she didn't let Frisk goDid you... did you not get past Toriel when you played this game?Do you think Undertale ends with running away from the fight, going back into your room and just assuming there are not end credits?

>>523339827Yes.

>>523341315She decides that this time the kid is going to have to prove they're tough enough to survive the Underground and meeting Asgore by killing her. She only "lets" Frisk go if you Mercy her until she gives in.

>>523341010>i wish people didn't enjoy a thing that i don't enjoy

>>523332691>>523332982Sans being a bit of a cunt even if you're totally harmless serves an important functional and literary purpose given that Undertale's central theme is its meta-commentary on completionism and unnecessary violence. In-universe his passive aggression is him hedging his bets and throwing a wide net with regards to steering you away from genociding the monsters. He feels obligated to do so since he's a videogame character who can't tell when you reset or are playing through the game again. On a meta level, his passive aggression exists to get the player curious about genociding every monster to see if Sans is all talk. He exists as a nod to the genocide route in the same way Flowey hints at the pacifist route.

>>523333504>Frisk can be injured and feel painFrisk exists purely as a vehicle for the player. He can't feel pain because you can't feel pain.

>>523299006>>523330231He told everyone he's was going to wipe out humanity when he got 7 souls, but if that was what he really wanted to do, he could have done it after getting the first soul.She's wasn't telling him he SHOULD do that, She was calling him out for making a blatantly empty promise to his people that was going force them into another war that they'd probably lose cause he'd pussy out again only AFTER causing way too much trouble to back out.

>>523298252I'll remember this post every time that I'm about to post on Holla Forums. I'll think about how old I am, and wonder why I'm still here, and judge all of the young people for their tastes. Perhaps unfairly. I'll remember that I was playing the games that you consider ancient, and unplayable, when they were new. When we argued about the quality of a game on a playground at recess, instead of an internet forum populated by endless strangers. Back when hoaxes like "you can unlock Akuma in Final Fantasy 6" had the benefit of the doubt, because a Google search wasn't available. Thanks to you, I'll remember that the sperm that conceived you was not even generated in your father's balls when I tore through Metroid, Contra, Ninja Gaiden, and many others. Well you can be assured that I haven't learned a goddamn thing, because despite all the drudgery that is life, I still want to indulge in a hobby that has barely evolved beyond the bing bing, wahoo of yesteryear, and then post my thoughts about it to sound out degenerates like you. Thank you Holla Forums, for making me laugh at love, again, and again.

Asgore's fight removing the Mercy button was retarded.Its a great introduction and would be a great touch to the fight, but what's the point if it just comes back anyways?Also glyde is cool

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>>523342178Well, you're welcome?

>>523334254>Hell, you can’t even find genocide without word of mouth or going “I wonder what the level cap is”Doesn't Sans or Asriel ask you to leave your save alone with its happy ending if you boot the game up again after the Pacifist ending?

>>523298252Toriel is a bitch, goat daddy did nothing wrong.

>>523303494So are we not counting Chris's original plan to commit suicide, make Asriel hide the truth from his parents, merge with Asriel and attempt to kill 6 more humans, which ended up getting Asriel killed too.

>>523342372Flowey does.

>>523341591You're making a lot of assumptions about what specifically did and didn't happen with the previous 6 humans.

>>523326795This.

>>523343006>You wish to know how to return, "home," do you not? Ahead of us lies the end of the RUINS. A one-way exit to the rest of the underground. I am going to destroy it. No one will ever be able to leave again.>Every human that falls down here meets the same fate. I have seen it again and again. They come. They leave. They die.>You want to leave so badly? Hmph. You are just like the others.>There is only one solution to this. Prove yourself. Prove to me that you are strong enough to survive!No, I just paid attention to her when she flat out stated all the others left and died and that this time she's trying something different. The idea that she tried to destroy the ruins exit every other time or make the other kids kill her is retarded.

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>>523341676I just don't really understand what people like about it. I guess the writing just isn't for me. I liked the music, so that's something.

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>>5233438451- She doesn't say she's trying something different this time.2- the fact that she didn't destroy the entrance to the ruins before now doesn't matter because she didn't destroy it when Frisk tries to leave either.You've got this retarded conflation that Trying to stop frisk from leaving is the same thing as stopping him from leaving even though frisk leaves! And you top it off with a dogmatic assumption that she just let the other 6 go in a completely different manner based on nothing.You're an idiot

>>523345257I love how it fucks with the UI in bossfights.

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>>523345990I'm gonna commit an act of unfathomable malice if Asgore isn't redeemed and made ultra successful in deltarune, Toriel canNOT keep getting away with it unscathed

>>523345990I hope you understand the joke in this, user

>>523346648the intro to ASGORE is called Bergentrückung, which kinda looks like Burger Truck King

>>523333762Only needed one. He was stalling

>>523298252ded

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>>523319402Then wtf are they attacking me for?

>>523348089are we just going to go in a big circle explaining thismost of them aren't, they think you're a monster and their "attacks" are a way of communicating that don't hurt monsters, they don't know they're killing you

>>523298252He killed a bunch of kids

>>523298352BASADO

How hated would Alphys be if she was male?

>>523349703Shitted hard on full game release like Asgore, probably. With the difference that she would kept being shat on in the same level, while with Asgore it tones down.

The entire game fell flat for me because of the fight with the goat chick at the beginning. You just randomly do 10000000000 damage to her despite the fact that literally everyone assumed there would be an option to spare her once she was weak enough. Then the game acts like you're a fucking asshole for the game randomly having you do a gorillion damage for no reason. It was just such blatant bullshit I couldn't take the rest seriously.

>>523298252He killed all the kids instead of befriending just a single one of them and making peace with mankind outside of the barrier. They wouldn't have attacked him with the kid alive and the worst that would have happened would be that they send him back.

>>523349923I feel like I've seen this before

>>523350013>they wouldn't have attacked him with the kid aliveAnd he wouldn't have been able to leave because he needs their soul in his body to pass the barrier

>>523350028Probably some other gigachad with the same opinion as me.

>>523346472If we put the egg in the fridge it clones itself if I remember right, maybe there will be a gag where he gets access to infinite eggs and sells them

>>523349923I'm convinced that Toby did that so that you would exit and reload and run into the Flowey "I know you can save and reload" scene. He even included the Froggit telling you about getting an enemy's health low enough to plant the seed in your mind.

>>523349923Flowey is the one who makes fun of you for that, and he's a psychotic immortal flower, he's not really the kind of thing to take seriously

>>523347491Wasn't he trying to become a god?

>>523337258>Asgore "If they're taking the S-A-T they get the G-A-T" Dreemurr>Asgore "Kick their ass while in class" Dreemurr>Asgore "Taking Hearts in the Park" Dreemurr>Asgore "In a Fortnite they're on the pike" Dreemurr>Asgore "I see a child I add em to the Pile" Dreemurr>Asgore "From 1st Grade to the Grave" Dreemurr

>>523298438At the very least Toriel has an ass and tits I can blast to.

>>523327507you shouldn't have to go to another piece of media to find out about lore that makes the story make sense.

>>523351426It's in game in the library

>>523349703She's already hated, but would be even more so as a male.

DAILY REMINDER:Sans explains in neutral routes that, although "self-defense" would be acceptable in real combat, your save/load powers mean you're never in any danger. The best way to explain Undertale is with kittens. That is to say, a kitten scratches you, in an "attempt to kill you". You know for sure that the kitten can't hurt you. Why would you stomp on the kitten, then? That's all it's saying. Not anything specifically about combat. Just "be nice when reasonably possible", nothing more complex. In the game, because you, Frisk, are an immortal time-travelling puppet, it's always reasonably possible. The other things it says are "you can doesn't mean you have to, don't push it" and "depression is a bitch".Self-defense here is not a valid excuse.The real excuse that stops me from feeling bad when I kill the characters is the "this is just a fucking game" excuse.Did you just skim the dialogue, or do you think stomping on kittens is self-defense? Stomp on all the virtual kittens you want. But don't call it self-defense.

>>523298252He is homophobic and does not deserve a happy ending.

>>523351610>Asgore is homophobicWhere the fuck did this come from?

>>523351426Okay but what does that have to do with anything, you fucking retard?

>>523349923>Then the game acts like you're a fucking assholeIt does? I don't remember that.

>>523351610>He doesn't know about what Rudy and Asgore used to doAnon...

asgore gave us this precious and great goat

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>>523352113Still mad there was no way to save him.

>>523351610???????????? leave my thread at once faggot

>>523351352

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>>523336978NAZRINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

>>523352320>neither are wearing their seatbelts

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>>523352206but user the fact you can't save him is what gave his character purpose in the first place

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>>523351523Lets imagine that cat scratches you, but continues to do so without any sign of stop? Now you'll likely not die from scratches but it sure as hell isn't pleasant. Do you just let the cat keep scratching you because your not in any permenant danger? No you chase it off because you don't want to be scratched. In the same way I'm sure getting killed isn't pleasant in any way making it not exactly justified but certainly understandable. This makes sense in Deltarune because if an enemy gets hit enough they run which is a more likely response then how monsters fight to the death in Undertale. I think the whole debate tends to come down to well if I was in this situation and if it was 1 to 1 with the game mechanics. Just my two cents though.

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>>523330231>>523330231>waiting for humans to fall in there, making the deaths of the humans who fell in look like suicidesPretty sure that's called murdering and then covering it up, user. Still a crime. He's still wrong.Then again, basically EVERYONE is wrong at some point except for Frisk (or including, depending on your choices) or Papyrus.

>>523352604i like this artist

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>>523304471sauce

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>>523298352calm down incel

>>523306506based

>>523319679Do you know what happens when you leave things alone for a long time?

>>523353058

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>>523342180If there's no mercy button, all you have left to do is fight.Also, Asgore doesn't believe he's worthy of mercy. He has to do this to free his people.

>>523353363As far as I remember the only equipment to specify dust on it is the tutu.

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sans

>>523348089Because the king told them to

>>523352461With those boobs Toriel doesn't need to wear any seatbelts.Can't say the same thing for Kris tho

>>523349923That happens to everyone.The flower also goads you into save scumming, so then you do that. Redoing the fight after beating the crap out of the goat you get more hints on how to not kill.Then the flower taunts you for save scumming, what a dick It all sounds like a schlep but it was very cool when I did it.

>>523345721kek

>>523298252>butchers kids who end up falling down into Wonderland>dindunuttin

>>523298252The thing about him is that he himself doesn't want to fight you. Hell, if he actually WANTS to destroy you with all of his might, the fight would've been than harder than Sans.After you defeat him, he says that he could be a family with you and Toriel, but of course, Flowey kills him after that. Even if Flowey doesn't interfere, Asgore kills himself so you can be free.TL;DR Asgore is forced to fight you, but he doesn't really want to.

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>>523359759>Asgore is forced to fight youHe really isn't

>>523324316>*Killed a bunch of faceless nobodiesAnd nothing of value was lost

>>523335961You don't go to jail when you kill baby rats do you? It's the same thing for Asgore.

>>523361117Elaborate

Is pedophilia really okay? Really?

>>523362116Elaborate on what? There's nobody forcing him, nor any circumstances. He's convinced himself he has to and is almost certainly hoping that you'll kill him so he doesn't have to face up to his shitty choices.

>>523361117He forces himself to fight you, while he doesn't want to. It's like doing chores, you don't want to do it, but you have to get it done.

>>523362497If he didn't do it he would be overthrone by his people

>>523362631Come off it, when Toriel is made Queen and she announces that they're never leaving the Underground, they all get over it and move on. Asgore was worried what having no hope for the future would do to his people, not what his people would do to him if he reneged on his promise.

sshhdon't tell mod

>>523362890>when Toriel is made Queen and she announces that they're never leaving the Underground, they all get over it and move on.That only happens if Frisk is a good kid, we have no canon information if the previous kids were good.

>>523348737>>523347946

523353152can we please just ban the word incel already

>>523363468have it filter to baka or something

I like catti

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>AAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEE ASGORE YAMETE

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>>523363565that's a good idea actually.

>>523363387All six made it to Asgore and the vast majority of monsters don't recognize Frisk as a human, so it seems more than a little likely that they weren't killers or overt assholes

>>523363787It also means that they probably weren't that friendly either, considering that most people remember Frisk in the good neutral endings.

>>523349703if Alphys was male, the "creepy stalker" would be played up a lot more, and he would have no fanbase at all. Toby would be called a misogynist or supportive of "rape culture" for "rewarding" a stalker with his dream girl.

Alright, Holla Forums redpill me on GASTER. Who is he?

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>>523364281royal scientist guy who made the core, fell into it and got erased from existence, now only pieces of him remain scattered around

>>523364281Nobody, he was made to attract theoryfags

>Asgore "Adam Lanza's Number One Fanza" Dreemurr

>>523363609source?

>>523363609I just got off of a three day for posting that in my other undertale thread. Here's the source for anyone that wants it.>inb4 phoneposter

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>>523349703I'd say she'd be as hated as she already is now.

>>523364645e-hentai.org/g/1019576/249142d799/

>>523305727Is it 2015 again or what

>>523298252>did nothing wrong Gee I wonder where I've heard that before.

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>>523307236>Literally a satanic goatBeats being an albino doomgoat

>>523335235Obligatory

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>>523364281Either a hint at Toby playing the LONG game and foreshadowing multiple universe shit, or a scrapped idea he left in for the sake of intrigue for people who like to dig around.

>>523366467Superior

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>>523366467I just realized that's Toriel at the end.

>>52336672610/10 made me audibly laugh

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>>523366957

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>>523298252Why is his helmet broken?

>>523327026This, Asgore's cute to me but Pale King was the man

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>>523364934>e-

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>>523367067You are now my favorite person ITT for posting lewd but not pornographic Susie, please feel free to post more

alright we're past the point where discussion ends, you can nuke the thread now jannies

>>523367258can someone explain this meme for me?

>>523367396you shut your mouth if my thread is dying I atleast wanna get more susie out of it

>>523367621plebs were the peasant class of roman society

>>523367718No, i'm talking about the "e-hentai bad"

>>523367776secret club horseshit

>>523367383not that nigga but okay

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>>523367929>secret club horseshitWhat!?

>>523298252>character did quite literally nothing>is treated like shit in both his games anywayYes.

>>523367776imagine not being able to get past the panda

>>523346648He's Burgin' Truckin'

>>523368265I still can't get the fucking page to load right. That white screen is painful to look at when it doesn't load even the fucking panda.

>>523368265So it's bad because there is a better hentai site? Ok then.

>>523368536>the absolute state>>523368576It's about continuing to use the objectively worse site and keep posting links to it.

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>>523368835Pretty sure that's nhentai since it decompresses the shit out of images.

Asgore was just a dumb and nice dude thrown into a very shitty situation, he killed all those kids to avange the death of his two kids and free his entire race

>>523368890Both are objectively worse.

>>523319580it has to be a special kind of shit in order to inspire fanart though, artists need notable, distinctive characteristics (2hu's hats, undyne's teeth) to work off i think that special kind of shitty design is what a shitposter might consider to be SOUL

>>523364727>Tiktok and bible app notifs.

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>Asgore "When I See a Child, I Go Wild" Dreemurr>Asgore "School Shooter Sympathizer" Dreemurr>Asgore "Empty My Nine into the School Lunch Line" Dreemurr>Asgore "Infanticide Enthusiast" Dreemurr>Asgore "Six Year Olds Belong Six Feet Under" Dreemurr>Asgore "If It's Under Ten, It Won't Breathe Again" Dreemurr>Asgore "Under Eleven? You're Going to Heaven" Dreemurr>Asgore "Halfpint Human Holocauster" Dreemurr>Asgore "Literally Murdered Six Kids and Kept Their Corpses in His Basement" DreemurrWhat the fuck did Toby mean by this?

>>523368938Worse than what?

>>523370091

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>>523369314not tiktok, automatic google music notification for something or other

>>523322279other kids just dropped the gamethey could've gone all the way like you do with more determination on the player's part:^)

Humans aren't people

>>523298352>baby begins to thump his fists against you>it is utterly incapable of doing any long-term damage and probably doesn't even understand that it is technically "attacking" you>your response is to kill the babythis is how selfdefencefags sound when they sperg out at ut.

>>523370946>he doesn't punt babies whenever they try that shitthis user here has weak 4chan blood

>>523370946baby shouldn't have violated the NAP

>>523371096>t. Snitsky

>>523370890based and monsterpilled

>>523352528When a cat scratches you, you can either run away, appease it, or smack it on the head until it stops; killing the cat is unnecessary.In undertale when a monster attacks you, you can either run away, appease it, or smack it on the head until you mercy it; killing the monster is unnecessary.

>>523370946>long-term damagedo you know how fucking painful dying is?

>>523370647Ah, my mistake.Wait do people unironically use google music?

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>>523326235>fat in all the right places>sweatyPlease do not make me want to fuck the terrible lizard

>>523372428I don't use it as intended, I download music through ytmp3 so that's just the default(and only to my knowledge)destination for the mp3 files

>>523298252You didn't have kill those kids, Asgore. There was another way.

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>>523373709Damnit Jim, rape is not the way

>>523298252>doesn't want to escape, but doesn't want everyone to fall into despair, so promises to break the barrier>kills children for souls, but only when they eventually sneak in through the back entrance>too much of a pussy to use the one soul to cross the barrier and hunt the final six soulsNah, he was too wishy washy and prolonged everyone's suffering.

>>523366957>Kris and Susie fuck on Asriel's bed>Toriel walks inI don't think it's possible to imagine just how pissed she'd be.

>>523363416Are you implying Flowey, Specifically, is an excerpt to that rule? Are you retarded? He's the only exception, and he's an exception for a reason. He's Flowey.The Library in Snowdin explains IN PLAIN FUCKING ENGLISH that Monsters communicate in magical attacks. This is the rule. Toriel breaks that rule at the end of Pacifism as well, blowing Asgore away with magic. But, much like with words, they CAN communicate with Magic. This is explained very early, and very deliberately.Most monsters have no idea what's going on, most don't even know what a human looks like. Toriel and Asgore do because they raised one as a child. Undyne and Alphys do because they watched anime. Flowey/Asriel know because of Chara. Everyone else is completely ignorant.

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>>523332691he gains more power from the sins you committhe more chaotic evil his opponent is the more powerful he gets

>>523298252It shouldn't surprise you, he's a father and a king, both things leftists hate.

>>523328598>Muh fourth wall shitIf you'd get your head out of your ass for twenty minutes you'd realize this argument can be placed into a lot of games. The argument of "Self Defense" hardly means shit if you are effectively immortal. You're killing monsters because it's fun, and you've been conditioned to in other games. This game just wants to flip that a bit and remind you that this is indeed a game with save files and you can (and usually are expected to) load after losing, or load after a bad ending to get a better one.It's not annoying, it's a part of the game's narrative. It's a finite world-enclosed story about Monsters Vs Humans wrapped in a meta narrative about the player of the game recognizing they are a player, controlling a young child MOSTLY against their will; and while you're in this position you might as well try to do the right thing.

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>>523298352>If you try to kill me i don't give a fuck what your motivations are you've already done everything wrongTo me that just sounds like a weak justification to grab an opportunity to satisfy your own bloodlust and seem righteous while doing so. But that's just my Christian perspective.

>Get fucked over by humanity>Get shoved underground>Live in darkness and despair with only your hate>A child falls>Decide to say fuck it to hate and adopt it>Everyone forgives the humans and lives happily in their prison>The human kills itself to get their adoptive sibling to kill other humans>The sibling says no and dies>King gets mad and decides humans are evil>Kills a few>Realizes they aren't all evil but can't stop because his people deserve a future>Kill up to 6>Hold onto them>Final human shows up>Know that if you kill them you will be required to destroy humanity>But if they kill you, your people will not have a happy ending>Be completely morally fucked with literally no correct decision>Break their mercy button so the cycle can finally end.>Bad GuyNah. He was thrust into a position where every decision other than "Be a good king" was made against his will and he was forced to do shit he knew was bad because the alternative would mean his people would give up and fall into despair. He didn't have a happy ending available to him, not without divine intervention.

>>523374483>too much of a pussy to use the one soul to cross the barrierAnd then get killed because the soul would betray him

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>>523298352So then you learned nothing from playing the game. Play on pacifist.

>>523364281Who? I don't believe anybody by that name exists in these parts.

>>523368835It used to work for me but then I realized I don't care about loli and didnt use it anyway, they got normal porn on there?

>>523376029everything on e is on ex

>>523298352>>523305727Trumpian Logic

>deltarune>Failing flower business>horrible living conditions and bills piling up>Most likey have to pay a huge alimony to his bitch ex wife>"SHE TOOK THE KIDS"Jesus what the fuck he do in deltarune to deserve this, you know that whore is not paying for that house on a teachers salary

>>523298252Asgore did what he had to in order to keep the kingdom peaceful, fuck Toriel in Deltarune he did literally nothing wrong there

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>>523376239>Implying it wasn't a divorce over Asgore wanting to have Asriel run the family flower business while Toriel wanted him to go off to college>Implying one of the main stories of Deltarune isn't going to be getting them back together but Asriel still being fucked up about their fighting when he was young>Implying this doesn't set up the player characters dual personality shit with good you and the side that blames Asriel and wants to murder him.Screencap this post.

>>523370946I think the kids that fell killed monsters cause they were scared and thought the monsters were evil

wow what a gay thread

>>523374542>They send fucking Mercenaries after you and most monsters wanted to catch you dead or lifeOk

>>523375427I completely agree with you, Asgore's only major mistake was declaring war on *all* of humanity after Asriel and Chara died. And even then, Toriel made an equally impulsive decision when she abandoned the rest of the underground. And, desu, when I really think about it, and look back at some playthroughs, it seems as if Toriel hasn't exactly forgiven humanity either, and protects the fallen children because she somehow sees them as innocent. I really get the feeling that an adult human falling down wouldn't have gotten anywhere near as warm of a reception from her.

>>523306341this kills the asgorefags

>>523307236>1. He murdered at least 6 children.>2. Literally a satanic goat.>3. Despite being a goat, he has paws for feet instead of hooves, further proving that he's also plagiarizing the mimigas of Cave Story.>4. He's in a terrible game with a terrible cult of a fanbase made by an anti-American guy who donated money to terrorists.>He and everyone else in that game deserved to be shat on and not sympathized.wtf i love undertale now

>>523378950The only thing dead here is the humans

>>523346472I have a feeling that Toriel is being set up to be the unreasonable one in Deltarune.

>>523322097wait undertale has a book??? since when???

>>523380513She wasn't unreasonable at all in Undertale

>>523305727>>523298352the fact the ending is based on being super passive is kinda lame, no one is truly that passive

>>523377186Those were mercenaries hired by mettaton SPECIFICALLY to kill you. Obviously they are an exception and you can kill them in self defense all you want I don't care.

>>523322097gets shot by bullet >ouch that fucking hurt stopmonster >imma do it again! even though you can understand what I say and you can understand what i say hehe

>>523381432>"i can understand what you say and you can understand what I say"fucked that up but you get the point

asgore's unused face sprites are creepy

>>523303494she created best boy though

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>>523322097How the fuck are the humans so powerful if it winds up that the monster's words damage your soul?And why does it seem like their form of "communication" seem no different from their form of attack?If this is true and isn't you misremembering bullshit, it seems like a pretty big cop-out.

don't worry the 5th anniversary book might add more detail to the story..right?

>>523381065>t the ending is based on being super passiveNo it isn't

>>523381680They really are

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>>523382096killing a single monster and not becoming best buddies with certain monsters can void you the best ending.

>>523381930Humans are made entirely of solid matter besides their souls while monsters are 90% magic and 10% matter. Monsters are also hurt more based on how much the other person actually wants to hurt them, which is why Genocide ends with you being able to one shot anything

>>523382362>moving the goalposts to "best ending"All of the Neutral endings are just as valid as True Pacifist and Genocide

>>523382481yeah if you want them all to be stuck underground, breaking them free is what the game is all about, forgiveness

>>523327026No cost too great.

>>523359665If I had to butcher 7 kids to save the human race from forever being locked in an underground cavern that's slowly running out of essential resources, I would. I wouldn't feel good about it, and I would consider myself a monster, but that's what Asgore does too.

>>523384149>slowly running out of essential resourcesThe only thing they're running out of is space. They're sitting under some sort of garbage dump that drops all sorts of useful crap on them

>>523351143That's Flowey, Asgore was hiding in his castle because the guilt had eaten him up enough that he couldn't bring himself to kill another child unless it literally walked in on him.

>>523384759Exactly. They live off the scraps humans throw out; they have no way to produce anything and are forced to re-use refuse and junk, and even then most shit they make are one-offs.

>>523333957Not him but he knows you've killed him X times. How aware he is is up for debate.

>>523385180Asgore wanted the seven souls to become godlike so he could break the barrier and wipe out humanity. He wasn't hiding in his castle, he was hiding in the underground in general. He could have left with one soul and used it to gather the other six relatively easily. The problem is that he stopped wanting to kill all humans shortly after he said he would and saw no way of explaining that without his people becoming borderline suicidal. Have to assume that if he had killed Frisk for good, he would have at least broken the barrier with his power.

>>523385405They've got enough to have a television station, wireless telecommunication and some sort of internet. They're not exactly hard up and struggling to make ends meet

>>523385748>How aware he is is up for debate."That's the face of someone who has been killed X times". He knows you can reset and you look increasingly annoyed every time you lose to him, that's it

>>523382205>when you nut and she keeps sucking

>>523386102He also comments when you kill him and reset the game to do so again. It has been years so I can't remember what he said exactly.

>>523342074>She was calling him out for making a blatantly empty promise to his people that was going force them into another war that they'd probably lose cause he'd pussy out again only AFTER causing way too much trouble to back out.Oh god it's almost as if there is an entire fucking concept of monsters falling into comas due to lacking hope in this game or something. Like determination is a metaphor for handling depression and Alphys injecting that shit fucked up said monsters and caused endless shit with Asriel and Flowey.Really. It's almost like Asgore HAD TO give hope to his people to prevent them from all falling apart with despair. Like he's a fucking king and not some little bitch trying to retardedly act morally superior for running and crying.

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>>523387467>here is an entire fucking concept of monsters falling into comas due to lacking hopeNo? They fall into comas shortly before they die and turn into dust. Only Asgore and Toriel are immortal, all the others grow old and die of old age.

>>523363787Their descriptions specifically mention that their equipment is dusty, which is the substance monsters exude when they die. There’s an implication they killed at least somebody on their path. Probably not genocidal, but they hurt somebody at the very least.

>>523382481Depends on what you mean by valid. If you mean more than the bare minimum you'd be wrong since all the neutral endings are just changes in the epilogue text.

>>523385947Having any of those doesn't automatically make a place have a high standard of life. Some poorer countries in africa technically have all of those.

>>523387772Only the tutu is dusty.

>>523298252I love Asgore, but stop deluding yourself. He did a lot of things wrong. Granted yes, he kind of had to do those things, but still.Toriel was way worse though.

>>523382362Your first neutral has the best ending sequence out of all the runs, granted they all are great.

>>523298252People and by people I mean bara furries only defend Asgore because of his penis.

>>523388852And if they escape humans could kill all of them with a wet fart, living in a protected cave is better for them than freedom.

Why does Chara want to kill everything that moves? She doesn't give a fuck about ningens or monsters.

>>523389750died on her period

>>523389750That isn't canon Chara, fanon Chara presents her as a murderous swine when in UT she's the one narrating the journey.

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>>523389750I think she is supposed to be a demon personifying the grinding mobs aspect of rpgs, which can be both monsters and humans

Frisk:>face of the company, drew innumerable dimes by default, only beaten by few legends like Sans>carried Asrieletty into a classic dime drawing match while still no selling all of his gay rainbow offence, permanently burying him and sending him back to developmental>canonically fucked every female in the undergroundKris:>new FOTC, already a draw>leader of based stable with certified draws Susie and Lancer, also carrying Ralseietty into drawing a dime>big leaguing his work brother Asrieletty so hard he probably wont even show up in the final game apart from a few mentions>will probably fuck every female in hometown by the end of the game>goes over (You)etty clean as a whistleCharaetty:>only main evented the cringe genocide tranny fed watched exclusively by smarketties>easily big leagued by a few simple save data tricks>lil manlet who hates everything that lives because he cant gain height>killed himself like a bitch KWABAsrieletty:>meant to be the next face of the company>worked into a shoot by Charaetty>buried by the human smarks>jobbed to said obese human smarks>needs to turn into a flower to draw a single dime>flippy shitter>another failed second generation shitter>real forms have only drawn gay furfag pedo cum but not a single real dime>theme song stolen by Kenny Omemega from the tranny fed

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