>character did quite literally nothing wrong>is treated like shit in both his games anyway
>character did quite literally nothing wrong>is treated like shit in both his games anyway
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>>523298252If you try to kill me i don't give a fuck what your motivations are you've already done everything wrong.
Anything with the goats was lame. And Assriel always sours the pacifist route for me.
>>523298252>Asgore get angry, make a bad decision but stands by it for the sake of hope>Toriel get pissy and leave to prevent more kids from dying, fail at that because she let them go until Frisk for some fucking reason>Toriel shit on Asgore for not doing literally what Asriel and Chara tried to do, which got them killed>Toriel is seen as in the right and that one scene plays out with everyone accepting the runaway (((queen))) back, when people like Undyne should, rightfully, put her on blast for not only being a bigger coward than Asgore but also shitting on him when he was stuck in a totally garbage position with no real way outToby really dropped the ball on the Reunited scene.
>>523299006Adding to your post>Alphys not only performing gruesome experimentation on subjects of the kingdom but also essentially being THE REASON the events of undertale happened in the first place>not only gets off scott free, but gets her dream gf too>while Asgore who was forced to make a shitty decision because of a shitty situation is endlessly lambasted without a single person taking up for himIt almost makes me think Toby has a hate boner for the poor guy
>>523299197Kind unfair to Alphys, since she also was in a shitty position.The monsters were defeated due to human's determination, so her research about it was the only hope to ever face again the humans or at least break the barrier. Not only that, the determination's effects on monsters were unkown.When given her test subjects, terminally ill monsters, both Alphys and the monsters' family hopes the determination will save them.Instead she gets fucked dealing with the unexpected abominations.
>>523298252>Game acts like you're suposed to hate Asgore>Game acts like you're supposed to feel sorry for AlphysIt's like Undertale runs off bizarro logic. At least it's clear about how Papyrus is mostly harmless and you're a dick for killing him.
>>523299197>Toby has a hate boner for the poor guyIts probably part of the character to be suffering. He also definitely is designed to be too nice to a fault (gives away flowers in DR, probably didn't kill any of the humans in UT). Also technically without flowey the barrier wouldn't of been broken
Asgore and alphys were at fault for literally everything that went wrong
>>523302339>It's like Undertale runs off bizarro logic.It's a pretentious game that shames you for killing in self-defense while at the same time loves to break the fourth wall and admit how it's just a game meaning by doing the latter, it's admitting you're attacking nothing but sprites and code, and shouldn't feel bad, regardless of if it was self-defense.