Paper Mario: Origami King

Not gonna lie, if this game had a proper experience system I would be ranking it right up there with the first two games. Definitely 3rd best Paper Mario. Fuck SPM apologists.

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>>517545040Its the best Mario RPG to date.

>>517545040Looks fucking subpar

>>517545208It looks infantile.At some point the series feels like it took a hard turn from being for all audiences to actual toddlers. The lack of substance in the gameplay and emphasis on rapid fire joke and setpieces are probably a side effect of that, it reminds me a lot of the new Yoshi games.

>>517545512It's nintendo.

>>517545187Now let's not get ahead of ourselves.

>>517545040So meta humor doesn't work if all the characters are in on the joke?

>>517545992Even Nintendo operates on a spectrum. Pokemon Puzzle League and Yoshi's Story are more childish than Mario 64 or Banjo Kazooie, and those are more kid friendly than Ocarina of Time or Metroid Prime. They target children but usually in a family friendly rather than a Fisher Price way.It's the difference between something like Frozen and a Tinkerbell movie. They're both for little girls but an adult can get away with watching the first one because they think it's cute, what the fuck are you doing if you're binging the latter.

>>517545040>+Looks good, runs smooth>+Writing is for the most part very good>+Not too short, not too long>+Overworld is large with a lot of stuff to do>-Constant repetitive tutorials for the first hour>-Frequent lol paper "jokes" get annoying>-Not even remotely challenging in any wayAnd the big one>-Combat is bad, boring, completely pointless, actively detrimental to your potential strength for mandatory fights, and made worse by the fact that some enemies can be defeated in the overworld, and it's actually fun to do so.If they had saved the ring battle system for bosses only, and left the rest of combat similar to SPM, it would be a pretty good game.

I think Arlo (Yes, my manchild games deserve to reviewed by a man with a handpuppet) said it best. Paper Mario stopped being about an RPG with paper aesthetics to >LOL ITS ALL PAPER AND THATS THE WHOLE THING!.

>>517546481It's too bad because the combat for the bosses is pretty neat.

>>517546640Arlo is a god

>>517545512You're talking as if the first two Paper Mario games weren't baby's first RPG. There's a reason a lot of people who like Paper Mario don't actually like JRPGs as a whole.

>>517547320I think the flexibility of character customization with the badge system is pretty fun to dick around with and still gives it value to actual JRPG fans who want something lighter and casual.It's a fun system to mess around with and find new ways to break the game. It's the same charm as something like FF5s combat but without the commitment to grinding job levels.

>>517546481>If they had saved the ring battle system for bosses only, and left the rest of combat similar to SPM, it would be a pretty good game.This

>shills literally can't defend tok without shitting on super paper mario

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If the boss battles weren't so fucking boring, I'd enjoy it more. If all the fights were overworld like the macho enemies, I'd probably 10/10 it. The battles drag it down to like a 3/10 for me.

>>517545187It's not an RPG even according to Nintendo, they're calling it an "adventure game". Just ignore the constant turn-based combat.

>>517548034> Defenders like on gamefaqs shit on the first two games while popping up SS and CS

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I’m actually shocked by how good it is so far. About 4 hours in, I’m seriously having as much fun as I did with ttyd,My concern is if the systems will all become tiresome later on.

In super paper mario, beating enemies was fast as fuck. Simply jump on them, like a platformer. With origami king it is painfully slow and filled with unnecessary steps.

>>517545187It's a Toad Hide-and-Seek simulator, let's not kid ourselves here.

> Somehow has a dark as fuck plot to commit genocide on Toads, but it was all just a prank bro

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>>517545040Yes, that is all people fucking want, EXP from battles. No one would complain about CS or ToK if it had EXP.

>>517546472dont talk shit about peter pan

>>517545187>RPG

>>517549281> What a Cut Out Loser

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>>517549467Kek saved that is hilarious

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>>517549397There's actual, straight to video, Tinkerbell movies.

>>517546481>Combat is bad, boringDisagree here. I actually like the ring system more than most of the other combat systems PM did recently.

>>517549467The new reaction image for these threads

>>517545040

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>>517546481>Frequent lol paper "jokes" get annoyingDid you just say PAPER?!Get it? Paper Lol! Good one! Le PAPERed Mario, amirite?

>>517549925Stepping in dog shit is better than falling in a septic tank, doesn't make it a good thing

>>517546481>-Frequent lol paper "jokes" get annoyingt. didn't actually play the game

>>517549397My guy, Tinker Bell has her own series of movies. Pretty sure she had Proto-Elsa as her sister in one of them.Had to watch that one with my little sister

>>517545187Not even Nintendo calls it an RPG.

>>517545187Action-adventure game :)

>>517545040It does a lot of things right, but overall it’s pretty tedious and unrewarding. I don’t mind the story and characters so far, but the game is pretty contradictory sometimes with the ring difficulties and then 5 seconds later Olivia holds your hand like an infant to solve pretty obvious overworld puzzles. There’s a lot to improve on 6.5/10

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I'll never understand why Arlo is so popular, I think he's insufferable. But Arlo has slightly positive impressions so far so i wonder if shitposters will stop shitposting him as some boogieman?Also people keep saying the game finally get's good at the second streamer>>517549915>>517551720God I want to fuck Tinkerbell

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>>517545040>if this game had a proper experience system I would be ranking it right up there with the first two games.Well that's the problem isn't it?The other two where killed by the same issue

>>517545040>Definitely 3rd best Paper Mario. Fuck SPM apologists.

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Dont mind me. Best Mario RPG series coming through.

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>>517549467That's fucking great

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it's boring. Very, very boring. Looks pretty and has some good music, but the game is lacking substance to dive into. The story is generic as fuck except the, I was hitler because of a misunderstanding, twist at the end and there's really nothing to the combat. It has the foundations of what could be a great game but it comes up very short and definitely isn't worth playing more than once

>>517553502>i wonder if shitposters will stop shitposting him as some boogieman?Doubt it. He was never someone to fly off the handle before. Even his Color Splash videos are tame as fuck

>>>/vg/

>>517545040I'd be happy if they got rid of random battles but, in their place, but more hand-crafted puzzle battles and some secret bosses.Go hire Jupiter to give this game some depth at least comparable to early-game Picross

So how are the levels? Are they creative like the first three games or the standard Mario grasslands, desert, forest, jungle, ice world, fire world, boss shit?

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>>517555567More unique like the first couple of games, but they're not taken as seriously as the first couple of games took their locations

>>517555567They're interconnected this time like the first two. Nothing particularly way out there, but there's more variety than CS and SS

>>517555567>>517555912>TTYD>creative levels>interconnected levelsUhhhhh... what game did you guys play? TTYD is a bunch of hallways connected to the main hub by pipes

>>517556075TTYD levels are creative. Level DESIGN is a different discussion and a mixed bag, but the locations themselves were great

>>517545040>Definitely 3rd best Paper Mario. Fuck SPM apologists.So what's the second best, given that TTYD is objectively worse than SPM?

>>517545040I liked Bowser's speech to cheer up the origami dwarf. I feel that Bowser should get his own game. Maybe give him a wife so he can finally have a proper family.

>>517556075I meant the themes of the level. Is it more like an underground wrestling ring or a train? Or is it more of the same New Super Mario brothers bullshit?

>>517556075We're talking about creativity in setting and the fact that there's no overworld level selection this time that really made the previous two games which took away the sense of place that the first two had

>>517556249Each chapter felt different. Chapter 3 was literally a wrestling tourney

>>517556409I mean there are themes that you mentioned but they are interesting enough. Like the grass area has a temple where the koopas worship a turtle god that you kill, and the jungle area is floating in the sky

>>517555912>military base>Colosseum>runaway train>circus>Super Mario Bros 3Did you even play Color Splash

>>517556360please no wife Bowser, the interactions would be too predictable for my tastes>Bowser is a mean tyrant, but actually is a big softy around his wife!>Its his wife that actually wears the pants in the relationship, Bowser is impotent when she's around!>The wife just complains how stupid Bowser is and how his plans never work!Especially when the first 2 bulletins are already covered when Bowser is around Peach.

>>517557117>>517545040Canon bowsette would be cool

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>>517545040God the bosses in this game is so cool. This one is my fave:>Acts like a samurai despite being a literal pair of scissors>His first phase gimmick is unique and makes it so you have to change tactics>Hitting him while he’s charging his ultimate move is an instant death>Said death is the most violent in the gameDefinitely the best boss PM has had in a while.

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how do i hack my switch so i dont have to pay for this?

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>>517556904>Did you even play Color SplashYes.100% finished it. Those where cool areas, especially compared to SS's bland as possible settings, but TOG is a bit more refined and varied overall.

Real talk. Should I buy this game?

>>517549467I don't get it

>>517558692Real talk, wait till you can get it for 40 or under.The random battle system is still a thorn in the series, albeit a much smaller one

>>517557692if only

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>>517558986Im an Ausfag and prices dont really drop here, LGPE is still selling for full price

>>517557117I like to think it'd be more like how the Omicronians in Futurama were

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>>517545512Yoshi's Crafted World was a great game.

>game consists of pretty much everything Arlo hated about the previous games>watch his preview video>all those soft ball opinions with the negatives and gushing about the positivesI hope his full review isn’t like this.

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>>517561776He doesn't seem to have even beaten the first world by then. I'm sure he'll have a lot more to say in his next video.

>>517561776The mob thinks he's a "toxic TTYD stan" enough as is when he isn't even saying anything terrible at the game. It's starting to get at him, and honestly can you blame him? These disingenuous little pricks are at every corner these days. It's enough to wear down on anyone's psyche.

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>>517561776a nintendo fan is going to act like a nintendo fan, user. I don't know why you think he is any different.Sticker Star and Color Splash did their jobs to make this gameplay seem more acceptable in comparison. He's going to "like it" by the end, and what I mean is go "well it's not AS good as X but it's fun"Especially when people butthurt at him for being so negative has gotten to him. He's 100% going to be very positive.

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Soundtrack rip where?Skipping this one, but hear the soundtrack is absolutely based.

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Regardless of the actual quality of the game, can we all at least agree that olivia is a qt

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>>517545040>just beat the scissor bosswhats up with the brutal mario death idk what they were thinking

>>517545040PAPER

Anyone have a reliable link to a download? My NSP isn't working.

>>517545040>shills knows it's a piece of crap, but they'll force the "but let's hate SPM instead" narrative"Eat shit.

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>>517545040I think you're on the money. I watched a stream of the first chapter and it genuinely looks fun, even if the combat is basic. I don't need it to be TTYD to be enjoyable

>>517565140>battling earns you experience>experience makes you stronger>getting stronger lets you battle more>battling earns you experienceExperience is your ONLY true reward in any of this. Battles that are not mandatory are a complete waste of time

anyone emulating it on yuzu? i havent used this emu before, i'm still at the beginning where you have to use the "1000 fold arms" thing but unsure of how to emulate this tilting motion control setting. any help?

>>517565548go into options and disable motion controls, retard

>>517562763who cares you fucking underage loser

>>517565748why be so rude? i had no idea you could just do that in the options, i've never run into a single game ever where you could just disable the motion controls from within the game's options itself

How tedious are the battles? I'm not a huge Paper Mario guy, but I thought about getting this since I haven't played a true PM since Super Paper Mario (I think I played Sticker Star for about an hour). The few videos I saw made it seem like even basic fights would take forever with the whole circle mechanic.

>>517565879pretty much every switch game with wagglan provides an alternative using normal controls

>>517566154im near the end and haven't found them tedious until around world 5 the rings get harder and more enemiesat the start and until like half way battles are pretty quick and snappy and as you increase your max HP you get stronger so you can just jump/hammer enemies on the overworld to kill them instead

Why are people pretending to enjoy this game? Have they just not played any real Mario RPGs?

>>517566154>How tedious are the battles?Most can end in a single turn if you solve the puzzle and are willing to use a strong enough weapon. You get 30-60 seconds per turn to mess around with the circles. The normal encounters never get more complex than that.A couple of the boss fights can feel tedious if you mess something up and they regenerate all their health.

>>517566454played all of them and recently beat bug fables and still think this one is around a 7.5 on its own

>>517545040STILLNOTBUYINGTHE ORIGAMIKING

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>>517565505getting stronger matters when battling is over half of the game which it is for most games with exp. Pretty much everything you get from collectables to upgrades is directly tied to battles and doing different shit in them. You can do this without exp like battle network but it takes some talent and creativity to pull it off

>>517566676>he thinks those buttons do anything

>>517545040>final boss is just two paper dolls tickling each otherWho directs this garbage?>>517545187>RPG>best anythingN

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>>517566741Cope.

>>517557117youtube.com/watch?v=Zm2-grWOEXw

>>517561776Him and Chuggaconroy have criticized Origami King in pretty much the kindest and mildest way possible and they still get shit for it.

>>517567130>Chuggaconroywhat did they even expect with himhe hated sticker star and he played the whole damn game so they couldn't even say he didn't play it

>>517567130>Chuggaconroy>"I chose not to buy it because the trailer was bad, so that means it's bad."

>>517546481>If they had saved the ring battle system for bosses only, and left the rest of combat similar to SPM, it would be a pretty good game.Didn'0t thought about this, but now that i read it, i wish the actual game was like this.

>>517556360When is Peach getting a sequel to Super Princess Peach? Even though it was easy as fuck, I enjoyed it. Or would it be """problematic""" because the gimmick revolved around a woman's emotions.

>>517567340And he was right.

>>517567340If true then based. if the game doesn't grab your attention why even buy it, especially if it's carrying on the tradition of a previous game you didn't like, more people should be doing this.

>>517567340anon, most people don't buy games that they don't think they'll enjoy

>>517567340There's nothing wrong with judging by the trailer.

>>517567531Because people who actually play it keep saying it's good. Salty TTYD fans won't like it, but that's on them.

>>517567519>>517567531>>517567580>>517567617t. retardsIt's obviously okay to not buy a game you're not interested in, but that gives your criticism a bit less weight compared to those who do.

>>517567635>Because people who actually play it keep saying it's goodBuyer's remorse

Honestly from what I've seen of this game I feel like I'm missing nothing by just watching it. The people playing it don't seem to be making any real decisions during battles.

>>517567734It's the fucking same as the last two games except with with origami instead of stickers or colors

>>517567774>d-doesn't count!!

>>517567734You'd have a point if what he's saying was "this is bad" and not "based on what i've seen, and on my experience with the previous titles, this doesnt look good"

>>517567635>Salty TTYD fanshow to spot a faggot who likes the new paper mario

>>517567879if you knew fucking any shit at all about the game you would know the new gimick is confetti

>>517567886say, where did all those fags that were saying Sw/Sh was good when it came out run off to, anyways?

>>517546481also >game stops you every 5 seconds to 2 minutes so Olivia can state the bleeding obvious or make a shitty joke.

>>517568434/vp/, where they fester and run if you shine a light on them

>>517567130Arlo's said he likes it so far.

>>517564752Olivia is annoying as fuck, faggot

>>517567340>don't like the previous 2 games >this game look exactly like the previous 2 games which you didn't like so you don't buy it>game comes out and is exactly like the previous 2 gamesIt makes perfect sense. I honestly expected him to buy it anyway so I'm surprised.

>>517545040It's delightfully mediocre in everything it does. The exploration is meh, the characters make jokes the entire time to the point that it feels like I'm playing Borderlands, and the battle system is a joke. Cheering Toads is the worst offender, it finishes the battle for you and heals you. Not only that but you generally get 90% of the coins back that you spent cheering, at the end of the battle. The only thing that stood out to me was it was pretty. It has a 6.4 user score on metacritic and deservedly so. They should have left the ring battles for bosses as others have mentioned, and emphasized the action adventure aspects like fighting the big Goombas and finding overworld secrets/solving puzzles. It's as if the game tries to be a jack of all trades genre and fails to hit the mark on anything, ending up being subpar at best. It is remarkably repetitive and has zero replayability. My vote is a very solid 6/10 and I'm being generous.

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>>517569343He got fooled twice, so not exactly expected.There should be a playthrough where Chugga constantly snarks throughout the video with Jon about Sticker Star in Youtube.

>>517569409>bunch of reviews saying this game has a bunch of good things going for it>0/10

>>517567774I yar-harred it, and I give it an 8.3/10.

Writing is so inconsistent. Some scenes are great, I really like Kamek in this game. But the other half of the writing is annoying and simply not funny.

>>517569409To add to this, the confetti system is tedious as fuck. I spent so much time bitch slapping trees and hunting for extra confetti just to fill a gap for, you guessed it, more coins. The game even acknowledges this collect-a-thon mediocrity which checklists for each area on how many spots you've filled, secrets you've found (which are dumb little samey treasures that offer zero to the core game) and toads you've rescued. Olivia also destroys any pacing in the game by opening her fucking mouth every time a leaf blows in the wind, and I was having tutorials and tips hurled at me 2 hours in. The nail in the coffin for me was repeated "Oh don't go that way yet, what about this thing?" moments. I'm not kidding when I say there's a dozen of them literally stopping you from doing any looking around until you trigger an event or talk to someone.

>>517545040>Fuck SPM apologists.cringe beyond belief

>>517569802You have shit taste, then.

>>517570137No, you have rose tinted glasses.

>>517570197Are you saying the old games were shit

>>517555120>>517549467HOLY BASED

>>517570334No. I am saying TOK is almost as good as the first 2 which are 8.5-9/10 games

>>517545040rip

>>517570435Nah. It's 6 points lower than TTYD on metacritic and 12 points lower than 64. User reviews are way worse. You just want to be contrarian and say, "Ha! Fanboys, suck it!"

>>517570435Lmao no. TOK put me to sleep. It's a design mess, both gameplay and writing wise. It has none of the charm the first two had because it's snarky and self-aware at all times. I won't say it doesn't have some merits, but overall it's far from the first two's quality.

>>517546640People like to shit on him, but frankly he was completely on the money and I think the same thing. From SS on Paper Mario has had paper at the forefront as a theme, central to the games' story and plot as opposed to a loose gimmick helping to define an RPG set in a Mario-style world. It's not exactly paper-thin but it's no good book.

>>517570970Were there other things people shit on him for?

>>517570435False, shill nigger.

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>>517571060He's an e-celeb who reviews Nintendo games with a handpuppet as an adult, and we're on Holla Forums. By that alone he's a good target.

>>517571247Pretty much the same as all ecelebs with avatars that don't look like them

>>517570713Like half of the reviews are troll 0 score reivews of nostalgia fags. Of course the user score is going to be low>>517570747Looks about right to me. TOK's critic score is slightly lower than it should be since the people reviewing it are comparing it to their nostalgic memory of the originals.>>517570747TTYD put me to sleep with its boring rectangular levels, blatent filler, and recycled partners and ideas from PM64. It had none of the charm of the first game because it became self aware and added stupid paper plane abilities. I won't say it doesn't have some merits, but overall it's far from the first one's quality.

>>517545187This is just delusional

>517571651This trash analogy doesn't even deserve a you. Kys, faggot.

>>517567635This is just a false flagger trying to act like people who want genuine progression back and a real battle system are "salty TTYD" fans. He might not have even played or finished TTYD.

>>517545040I'm thinking of picking it up, ever since it came out I've noticed a lot of the complaints against it seem really toothless unlike criticisms of sticker star and color splash, and I haven't heard of any "Thing" mechanic which completely killed my interest in the other two.

>>517572053It's basically Color Splash 2, with some improvements and some drawbacks.

>>517572053I'm a little ways in after pirating it and so far there are no Things and there's a wee bit more to battles than the previous two games. It's still Color Splash 2, obviously, but the writing and story are starting to carry it a bit more. The directors from the previous 2 games were also replaced with a new fellow, who's probably why we don't have softlocking battles if you don't have any stickers/cards now.

>>517572053The thing mechanic is confetti and coins.

>>517571651Nigger he was talking about the critic scores not the user scores.The user score gap is like 4x that.

Zoomers need to stop pretending they've played these games, the humor has remainedd the same

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The combat is so fucking EASY. Like 64 and TTYD weren't necessarily that hard but holy shit it's clear this game is meant for 10 year old children with ADHD. Even if you fuck uo you get a "finish them off!" 1.5x damage modifier. Like fuck me this game is snoresville, I ended up skipping battles not because of the abundance of coins but because it was so damn dull. I wish every fight was like a boss fight and not this pathetically simple line em up game. It is very much the easiest paper mario game ever.

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>>517572834Haha isn't it whacky I'm made of paper? Oh BTW did you know we're all paper? Haha paper pun! Existential paper joke! Hoho, my creases won't come out because I'm paper lol!

>>517572834Let's not pretend the amount of HAHA PAPER jokes is remotely the same.Paper Mario used to be Mario Story. Now it's literally Paper Mario.

>>517547320Because JRPG's are plagued by the same constant tiring tropesI have no interest in pretentious fantasy bullshit and a cast of forgettable bishonen copy-paste cardboard cut-outs

>>517572834old paper mario was a lot more topical. One joke would be about calling some stone enemy like thwomp stupid/ugly or that old toad master feigning senility. Like half the jokes in the last 3 paper marios are about paper or paint or origami. and toads all looking alike

>>517572834>using ads to prove anythingThe amount of times Origami King in average dialogue is self aware about the paper aesthetic in comparison to 64/TTYD is steepThe thing is that often times it isn't even a joke, most will just replace common adjectives with paper-ish puns

>>517550808More like you didn't. That complaint was kinda exagerated in CS, but TOK goes full in on paper jokes since fucking origami is the theme of the game. World 5 gets annoying since "water is bad for paper" and hotsprings curing "creases"